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Title: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference
Post by: admin on August 16, 2005, 04:57:52 AM
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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on August 17, 2005, 07:08:55 AM
Quote from: admin on August 16, 2005, 04:57:52 AM
This is the new home of NEFC discussion. Welcome aboard, everyone.
Wow, new Post Pattern, just before the start of the season.  This may take some getting use to, but it looks like it will work. New improvements, maybe this will get the NEFC their first post season win.  It could be good karma.
Title: maybe a changing of the guard
Post by: grady little on August 17, 2005, 11:42:12 AM
The NEFC has several new coaches and many of the top teams over the last several years have gotten D1aa and D2 transfers. I think the quality of the league has improved  tremendously  and lookout Curry. Umass D, Fitchburgh. Endicott , BSC and Westfield  and a few others are at the doorstep.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: grady little on August 17, 2005, 11:56:49 AM
Maybe a changing of the guard!
The NEFC has several new coaches and many of the top teams over last few years have gotten D1aa and D2 transfers. I think the quality of the league has improved tremendously and lookout Curry. Umass D, Fitchburgh, Endicott BSC and Westfield and a few others are at the doorstep.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on August 18, 2005, 03:30:08 PM
Grady you have mentioned all the bigs in the conf.  other then WSU and WSU.  Who else should we be looking out for?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: grady little on August 19, 2005, 09:19:13 AM
D3 fan,

Worcester state is always competetive. Also it should be interesting to see how Umass D. does against Merrrimack. As merrimack is projected to do
well in their conference. The season is right around the corner.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on August 22, 2005, 07:19:38 PM
OK. We got a new Posting Site and just like tournament time, NEFC is last in Postings for the Eastern Region.  So I am going to get things rolling with my Order of Finish in each division of the NEFC this year.  I won't explain my logic in the picks, because there probably isn't any.


Bogan
Fitchburg State
Bridgewater St.
Westfield
Worcester St
Framingham St
MA Maritime
ME Maritime


Boyd
Endicott
Curry
UMD
Nichols
Salve Regina
WNEC
MIT

Ok, let's see if the NEFC can respond now and get some postings going



Title: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefc1264 on August 22, 2005, 07:44:03 PM
Bogan
Fitchburg State
Bridgewater St.
Worcester St
Westfield
Framingham St
MA Maritime
ME Maritime

Boyd
Curry
Endicott
UMD
Nichols
WNEC
Salve Regina
MIT

Have to put Curry #1 because of what they have done the last few years and they should still be the strongest team in the Boyd.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on August 22, 2005, 07:46:28 PM
Yeah,  I think EC and Curry could be a toss-up and I can see where you go with past experience.  Curry is a proven winner, EC still needs to show what they can do and earn the respect of the rest of the NEFC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: grady little on August 22, 2005, 09:07:11 PM
Your right about Curry. Nellie seems to get a lot of transfers that struggled  at other schools.and maybe got lost in the shuffle. Also any young kid wants to play for him. He is a good guy and please don't interpet this the wrong way, Curry is a terriffic academic school.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on August 23, 2005, 12:25:47 AM
Flip a coin for the Boyd....Curry, UMD, Nichols...Regardless of the success EC has had they still have a long way to go before they can be considered a true contender...

The Bogan should be real interesting this year.  What will BSC look like without Maz? I won't make a pick but I'll bet you that the winner will not be undefeated in the conf...

Must see games 9/3  Merrimack vs UMD, 9/10 Curry vs FSC just to start things off..
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on August 26, 2005, 08:38:22 AM
UMD had a scrimage game against St. A's yeaterday.  The defense looked strong with some new and old faces really standing out.  The offense was a little out of sink against a team that has had a week longer in camp but showed signs that they will be fine by the time the season starts.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on August 28, 2005, 07:01:21 PM
EC played a scrimmage against Plymouth State on Friday.  Plymouth State looked like they have improved from last year and certainly have more player available than last year.  EC was a little shaky the first half but looked much better the second half.  I thought the Offense looked a little better than the defense, but certainly both can use a little work.  Most of the big gains and scoring by Plymouth occured due to busted plays which resulted in everyone being out of position.  Plymouth would have not done much otherwise.  Looking forward to the reasl season starting next weekend.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on August 29, 2005, 10:46:43 AM
Any word how Curry and The Coast Guard scrimmage went on Saturday. The season opens up friday at curry...
Title: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefc1264 on August 29, 2005, 01:24:22 PM
Curry looked very strong in their scrimmage against Coast Guard,they have very good RB's,WR's, and a QB that can get the ball to those players.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on August 30, 2005, 04:23:54 PM
In speaking with an avid follower of Curry football he boasted of many of the tranfers and prep school kids they picked up this year. He said that they were loaded with offensive backs and wide outs. moved one of the qb's to receiver.
Defense  is questionable. although transfer cb looks strong.. It will be interesting how Worcester State will be with posssible new qb. They are always tough.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on August 30, 2005, 05:59:56 PM
Time to start the picks for this week's games involving NEFC teams.

Curry 28   Worcester St 10
Game is at Curry and I think Curry is trying to intimidate some of their opponents with early easy wins.

UMD 21 Merrimack 10
I don't know much about Merrimack, but I think this could be a down year for UMD.

EC 35  Hartwick 21
Hartwick is a passing team so I expect a lot of scoring.  If EC doesn't win this one, it will set a bad tone for the rest of the season.  The last two years EC started out against WPI so they need to take advantage of an easier team.


OK lets see the rest of the picks.


Title: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefc1264 on August 30, 2005, 06:41:54 PM
Curry over Worcester State 32-14

Merrimack over UMD 24-10

Hartwick beating Endicott 42-21
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on August 30, 2005, 07:42:46 PM
63 CENTER, Hartwick an easier team???? Hartwick plays in a league with Ithica, Alfred, Springfield, St. John Fisher, a Norwich team that is improving as well as a Mt. Ida and Utica teams that are also improving.... Other then Utica (in the past) Mt Ida (in the past) and Hussen, you might want to look at the combined NEFC win total vs. the big 4.  Hartwick has been succesful in the past and will only get better.  I don't know if I'd call them an easier team then WPI....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on August 31, 2005, 07:01:32 AM
I'll stick with EC beating Hartwick and my reference to Hartwick being easier than WPI.  Hartwick has only won 3 games in the last 2 years and is only returning 13 players from a team that won 1 game last year. 

Overall, the E8 may be a stronger conference than the NEFC but I don't believe that a cellar dweller from the E8 will beat one of the better team in the NEFC.  Of course, EC can't take Hartwick lightly either.  That's why the play the game on the field, not on paper.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on August 31, 2005, 08:41:29 AM
I expect Curry to handle wsc. But u never know, I do not no enough about WSC..
Umass D beating Merrimack...I don't think so. Although  UMD is one of the top teams in NEFC  I expect Merrimack to win handily........35-14.

EC vs. Hartwick.... This game will give u an idea if EC will compete in their conference this year.

AS I SAID BEFORE BOTH CONFERENCES IN NEFC WILL BE VERY COMPETETIVE...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on August 31, 2005, 11:34:36 AM
Does anyone know anything about the Worcester State vs Curry matchups?
Anyone have a scouting report of either team? I know from reading their teams profiles on D3 football.com that they both have transfers that could make an impact?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on August 31, 2005, 06:28:45 PM
FootballFan2005, Both Curry and Worcester lost a lot on defense but have most of their offense back.  It should be a good early season match-up.  I give the nod to Curry since the game is at Curry and I think Curry is going for the three-peat as NEFC champs this year. From the reports I heard about their scrimmage against a weak USCGA team Curry sound like the team to beat in the NEFC again.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on August 31, 2005, 09:06:21 PM
63 center, as I've stated earlier, EC has a long way to go before you can say that they are one of the better teams in the NEFC.  Rate the teams since EC has entered the league.... Do they fall in the top half or the bottom? Are they better then Curry, UMD, Nichols, Westfield, WSU, Fitchburg or BSC?  I don't think so.  Are they better then Maine, Framingham, Mass, WNEC, MIT, Salve?  I think so.  Are they improving and a team not to over look?  Certainly! 

But Norwich, Utica, Hartwick, and Mt Ida would also beat those teams.  WPI is a quality team who hasn't had to play the starters for a complete game against EC either game.  If you look really hard and not at the overall records, you will see that Hartwick is not a step down from WPI.  If EC goes into this game thinking that way they will be in for a long day...I agree that this will be a good test for EC it should only be looked at as a measuring stick to see how far they've come.  Win or loose!  I think EC has a chance and will represent the NEFC well.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 01, 2005, 07:17:57 AM
D3fan,  I did not intend to imply that Hartwick would be easy for EC.  As you correctly stated WPI has killed EC the last two seasons and all I was saying was that I thought EC might have a better chance against Hartwick than they have had against WPI the last two seasons. 

Regarding whether EC is a top NEFC contender or not, last season (EC 2nd varsity season) they beat UMD which everyone seems to rate in the top half of the NEFC.  I agree that one winning season does not make you a winning program, but I think you should at least get some recognition for the winning season and not looked at as a second class team.  EC is building a good solid program and unlike a lot of other NEFC schools is not afraid to play tough competition outside the conference such as Hartwich and RPI.  I think the Hartwick-EC game will certainly let EC see how far their program has come or not.  I do think it will be a better opening game than EC has had in the past against WPI.

Expressing opinions regarding teams is what this site is all about even if we all disgree on who is the better team.   I am glad we can discuss our opinions here.  We will see how things turn out on Sat.  At least we agree it should be a good game.
Title: Weekend Predictions
Post by: footballfan2005 on September 01, 2005, 07:53:38 AM


Friday

WSC @ Curry                                 28-21 (First Upset of the 2005 Season)

Saturday

Endicott @ Hartwick                      10-21

Mass-dartmouth @ Merrimack       10-35 (Can't handle the offense)

........more to come
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on September 03, 2005, 08:59:09 PM
Well 63 center?  EC did represent the league well!!!Next is RPI who will be better but these games will help them in the long run...  It shows that they are willing to play better competition like Curry, UMD and Fitchburg, regardless of the final score.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 04, 2005, 08:12:03 AM
The EC-Hartwick game was a great opening day game with two evenly matched teams.  EC made some big mistakes at key times with fumbles, interceptions, and penalties that really hurt them on their drives.  If they expect to compete for an NEFC championship they will need to cut down the turnovers and penalties, especially the unsportsman like conduct penalties.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: empire8fan on September 04, 2005, 10:39:56 AM
thats sad if your evenly matched w/ Hartwick....poor endicott
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on September 04, 2005, 01:37:55 PM
63 center, you've seemed to change your tune regarding Hartwick... you said that a celler dweller from a good league wouldn't beat one of the better teams in the NEFC.  Now it's a good game between 2 evenly matched teams.  I agree with empire 8 fan...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AptosDad on September 04, 2005, 02:33:34 PM
Speaking of cellar-dwellers, does anyone have any news on the Mass Maritime/MIT scrimmage?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 05, 2005, 03:05:53 PM
Hartwick did not beat EC, EC beat themselves.  EC had more total yards and more time of possession than Hartwick, but EC also had more penalties and turnovers, which is what beat them in the end.  Of course none of that matters, what matters is the final score and Hartwick lead where it counts.  EC will need to work on their mental game and elimiate stupid penalties and costly turnovers if they expect to have any kind of chance against RPI.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Longtooth on September 05, 2005, 09:43:13 PM
Who's chosen to win it?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on September 06, 2005, 05:58:37 PM
to win what?
Title: Bogan Division of the NEFC
Post by: footballfan2005 on September 06, 2005, 08:12:20 PM
This topic is a bit late but i've been out of town since Saturday morning..


I attend the Worcester State/Curry game last firday night.  A few things about the game... Teams that play @ Curry should be aware of the advantages they try to give themselves... one being the Music... everytime Worcester had a third or fourth down possession the music would be playing until after the ball was snapped... apparently the refs were notified and the problem was corrected in the second half... however, I found it very disrespectful to both teams... b/c the Curry weren't at fault.

Second, Worcester State played a sloppy game and probably should have won the game if it hadn't been for a few questionable calls by the refs.  The biggest being an overturned touchdown w/6 minutes left in the fourth; which followed by a fumble and a touchback... not to mention the penalties and poor coaching causing them to use all their time-outs and have the play clock expire several times.

My prediction for Worcester State is that they fix the little mistakes and win their Bogan division and meet Curry at the end of the season in the championship game.  Although, Curry has a lot of work to do before they regain their form we're all use to the past few seasons.  Worcester State looked dangerous in the 2nd half when  Kyle Beatrice (19 for 38 1int   285yards  2TD's) took control of the Worcester offense and the Defense held Curry to 3 points.  Should be another intersting season in the NEFC!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on September 06, 2005, 08:23:11 PM
63 center, do you play at EC?  Regardless, how you win or lose is irrelevant!  Turnovers, penalties, and 1000 other things are part of the game.  Some you can control and some you can't....  On any given day things happen that lead to a victory or a lose. The best team doesn't always win and the worse doesn't always loose...

I've mentioned several times about EC's quality win over UMD last year but not once have I mentioned the 5 turnovers (3 inside the 20), the 15 dropped passes or the 3 missed field goals by UMD.  (The score was 0-0 after regulation)  When you're coaching and analyzing the game those things are important but when it comes to the final score who cares.  A win is a win regardless...  The other stuff become excuses as to why you lost...  Excuses don't help you become a better team.

My opinion!!!!!

Anyone have any picks this week?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: frank uible on September 06, 2005, 08:34:08 PM
What is it that Grantland Rice had to say about winning and losing?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on September 06, 2005, 11:37:52 PM
Many times how you play the game directly results in a win or a loss Frank.  Grantland was talking about sportsmanship I think we were hinting towards execution.  But...How you represent yourself on and off the field (work ethic, sportsmanship, teamwork...) are the most important aspects of football at this level.  Those lessons will carry over for a life time!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 07, 2005, 07:02:54 AM
D3 Fan,  no I do not play for EC, and I was not making excuses.  I agree with everything you said.  A lot of folks are using the one game (EC losing to Hartwick) to say that Hartwick is a better team than EC.  I agree that last Sat. Hartwick was the better team,  but just like EC might have been the better team on the day they beat UMD last year, one could argue that the loss by UMD to EC was not so much EC outplaying UMD as it was to UMD mistakes.  You are right, it doesn't matter how or why you lost, a loss is a loss and a win is a win, but based on one closely contested game you can't say that one team is the better team.  That is why they play t he season.  I am sure that a lot of people would not consider TCU to be better than OK, but TCU beat OK.  Mistakes are a part of the game and can cost you the game and in the end as you say all anyone will remember is that EC lost to Hartwick.

That's my opinion.  I'll have my picks later today, but I can tell you now, I will NOT be picking EC to beat RPI.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 07, 2005, 07:21:55 PM
OK, here are my picks for this week as we finally get everyone playing.

Westfield 28  WNEC 7
MIT 21 Framingham 7
USCGA 35 MA Maritime 7
Salve 28 NY Maritime 14
RPI 42 EC 14
MT. Ida 35 ME Maritime 7
UMD 35 Pymouth St. 0
Bridgewater St. 35 Nichols 14
Fitchburg 20 Curry 18
Worcester 18 WPI 14

I think the two big games for the weekend are Curry at Fitchburg and the two Worcester schools.  I give Fitchburg a slight advantage being at home, but this game is a toss-up and may be the precursor to the NEFC championship again.  I give Worcester a slight edge over WPI because they have one game under their belt already.  The rest of the games look like blow-outs to me.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AptosDad on September 08, 2005, 01:44:26 AM
63Center,
I'm curious what you might know about MIT.  True, their opponent hasn't won a game in 2 years, but are you basing your pick on anything else?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 08, 2005, 01:34:17 PM
AptosDad,

I based it the fact that Framingham has not won a game in the last two years and the fact that D3Football.com ranked Framingham as 231 out of 231.  Other than that I don't have any other good reasons.  My picks aren't always based on much logic.  Just ask the guys who thought I was nuts last week when I picked Endicott to beat Hartwick.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AptosDad on September 09, 2005, 12:46:26 AM
63Center,
Thanks for your feedback, and nobody is right all the time. Actually, Framingham State's ranking isn't as bad as you believe.  They're 211, not 231.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 09, 2005, 12:58:05 AM
We ranked Framingham 231.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cwilliams on September 10, 2005, 04:10:37 PM
Framingham 14, MIT 7 - Final
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on September 12, 2005, 09:12:17 AM

SOME SURPRISING WEEKEND SCORES;    FITCHBURGH BEATING UP ON CURRY AND UMASS DARTMOUTH GETTING WACKED BY PLYMOUTH STATE.....EARLY SEASON TURNOVERS WILL KILL YOU. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AptosDad on September 12, 2005, 09:44:46 AM
I guess I was looking at an old ranking when I saw Framingham @ 211, but it appears that it may have been more accurate than the current ranking.  The questions now are, where was MIT ranked, and are they on the way to a streak of losses?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2005, 12:25:07 PM
If I just give the Kickoff away free, what's that mean for all the people who bought it? :)

You can find out the MIT answer using the vast resources we have on the site. Here, for example, is a listing of all East Region teams (http://www.d3football.com/regions.php?region=east).
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 12, 2005, 11:30:52 PM
aptos, mit is inexperienced but will shock at least one team this year....

also, from what I hear Framingham has some really good speed guys and a better feel for the system this year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jeff on September 13, 2005, 10:58:32 PM
what is it with Framingham State?  Its like everyone has to stick up for this school like they are your retarded in-laws...

they have gone 2-26 over the past 3+ years and because they beat MIT you "hear" they have some good speed guys?  they are learning the system?

::)

wowsers....



Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Diablo981 on September 14, 2005, 02:04:58 PM
what's everyone's take on this weekend's Bridgewater State v. UmassD in Dartmouth?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on September 15, 2005, 08:58:02 AM

I saw Bridgewater State play last weekend against Nichols. They are a pretty solid team on both sides of the ball. good balance on offense with strong running game and passing. Have not seen Umass dartmouth but was surprised by last weekends score....I think that both conferences have a lot of parity and anyone is capable of beating one another.....Turnovers, look at Curry and Endicott losses.....both good teams.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 15, 2005, 06:39:22 PM
With a few unexpected teams winning games last week, this week's picks are tougher, but here goes:

Salve 7 at Worcester St. 21
Framingham 14 at EC 35
Bridgewater St. 28 UMD 14
Curry 42 at ME Maritime 7
MA Maritime 28 at MIT 14
Westfield 21 at Nichols 14
WNEC 7 at Fitchburg 35

The UMD-Bridgwater game is a tough one, because I think sooner of later UMD is going to wake up and play the way they are capable, but for now I am going with the team that has shown it is ready to play.  Curry will be out for blood this week after the loss last week.  EC will be looking to get into the win column.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 15, 2005, 07:39:02 PM
Yea Jeff, the framingham guys do have a better feel for the system this year, and especially with a good qb they might win another game or two unlike the last few years when they were slow, crappy and without a qb.

now, of course they would lose by 60 to any upstate team but thats not the point here.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on September 15, 2005, 09:43:41 PM
well i think a Utica vs Framingham State would be a good match up...

but any NEFC team against a Hobart, Ithaca, Union, RPI will get smoked anyday of the week...

However, it's been my opinion for years that a spread team that can put up points could beat a Hobart or Union.  The logic behind this statements is that both upstate teams like to play ball control... esp this year w/Hobart... Mizro will get tested and he wont have his all-league receivers to make him look good.  Force Hobart to the air and they lose.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jeff on September 15, 2005, 10:04:50 PM
I have followed [sadly] this team since 1998....They have won a total of 9 games and whats even worse, is that they HAD a good QB, they HAD good WR's and DB's, yet did ZILCCH....They have actually got worse under this current head coach....Imagine being 2-8 and actually DOWNGRADING your coach?

lol

I mean, they actually used to be "in" 5-7 games a year...



Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jeff on September 15, 2005, 10:07:21 PM
football fan, the NEFC as a whole wont even schedule an Empire team or Upstate team and if they do, the history has proven they will get smoked...

BSC I think lost to Hobart a while back as well...They also beat Springfield when SC had their worst year in a decade...

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 15, 2005, 10:27:50 PM
Jeff,

EC has played both an E8 and LL team and as you indicate they got smoked by RPI two years in a row, but you got to give them credit for taking on tougher competetion.  If NEFC teams won't schedule tough teams like E8 and LL teams, they are doomed to never winning an NCAA tournament game.  The only way to get better is to play better teams.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jeff on September 15, 2005, 10:42:00 PM
amen center...

what doesn't help is having 80% of the conference NOT doing what you are saying....Praise the 20% that do schedule upstate/NJ/Empire teams, but while those schools step it up, the others state schools are playing 9-games against junk....

You are only as good as your last place team as conferences go...

schedule a Springfield and a Hobart, but when you lose those two games, then go back to playing MIT, Framingham, Fitchburg and on and on, its counter productive...

the start is playing 10 games...9 is a joke...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 16, 2005, 09:56:23 PM
There are a few problems that I see the nefc as a whole has.

1)  Such a big league only leaves a few non-conference games for nefc teams.

2) A large d2 New England Conference (NE-10) with below average d2 football nationally takes away talent from many NEFC teams. 

3) no real full time coaching staffs at NEFC schools.

4) The NEFC schools themselves dont have a great deal to offer in terms of facilities, academics or programs as a whole.  D3 NY State schools seem to put a lot more money into their academics, schools and athletic facilities than MA schools.......On the other hand, the nefc schools also dont have to compete with nescac, LL or empire 8 schools either.

5) MA highschool football talent isnt as great at CT, NJ or even NY. 

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on September 17, 2005, 06:16:58 AM
BostonBomber
"The NEFC schools themselves dont have a great deal to offer in terms of facilities, academics or programs as a whole.  D3 NY State schools seem to put a lot more money into their academics, schools and athletic facilities than MA schools.......On the other hand, the nefc schools also dont have to compete with nescac, LL or empire 8 schools either."

Bomber you should update your information... The NEFC definately competes w/the nescac and the LL... look at the roster for Hobart (who you mention alot).  They get tons of kids from the Boston area... and the nescac... take all the student athletes that missed the IVY's... not to mention

Players from Boston area
Hobart: 9 players
Union: 19 players
Trinity: 21 players
Bates: 33 players
Amherst: 25 Players....

Did I make my point or should I go on...


I agree w/you on the coaching... in upstate it's a business... they take the sping seriously.  But if the NEFC gets a coach that comes from a good upstate program and implements the same system he could run the NEFC.

The other point you make about MA talent... I don't agree w.you on that either.. NY and NJ are a hell of alot large states... can't compare

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 17, 2005, 06:56:51 AM
footballfan, my point was that NEFC schools with the exception of MIT arent at the same par academically as the schools you mention, (union, hobart or any nescac school)  The kid in highschool that is looking seriously at schools like   hobart, union or the nescac schools is not going to look at nefc schools in the same light.

Union, Hobart, LL schools and nescac schools are the best college in the country in all areas, academics and athletics. They are on the top of the first tier schools. The nefc schools are fourth tier schools, therefore the two groups dont have to compete with the same student athletes for the most part.

And although I would love to say that massachusetts highschool football is on par with nj or even ct, it just isnt true.  NJ has the best highschool football in the country regardless of size. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 17, 2005, 01:23:02 PM
The sad thing about Framingham's football program is that they beat a very poor MIT team and think it's the greatest thing in the world.  It was great to see them break their losing streak because they put in alot of hard work but all their accomplishments are in spite of their coach.  He has done nothing but hurt that program while he insists he's done nothing but good for the team.  Can someone please tell me how bad of a record does the coach have to have before he gets fired.  This is getting rediculous.  If anything please hire an offensive coordinator that actually knows the basics to play calling. It's just sad to see that program hit rock bottom.  When a 1-8 or 2-7 season is a great accomplishment, changes need to be made. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 17, 2005, 05:22:48 PM
Way to go Sully 46-0 loss, maybe you think its a moral victory cause it wasn't 75-0.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: inthebleachers on September 18, 2005, 05:20:10 PM
Let's face it, the NEFC is a melting pot.  Academically, you have MIT as definitely one of the nation's top academic institutions, Salve and Endicott are tier one schools, WNEC is at the top of the second tier.  Then you have the state schools educating the masses in the fourth tier, with Nichols and Curry, two schools that make success stories out of kids that might struggle academically elsewhere.  You have a school like Bridgewater with over 9,000 students and Nichols with just over 800.  Some schools allow some leeway when admitting athletes, and some like MIT, WNEC and Salve won't budge.  Then, there is the issue of which schools have full time and part time coaching.  All the disparities seem to make it ridiculous to band these teams together, but it's what we're stuck with and I guess it keeps things interesting...   
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 18, 2005, 07:19:41 PM
Excellent comment and analysis, inthebleachers.  With USCGA and Plymouth State joining the NEFC next year, I look for some teams to possibly jump ship in a few years or for the conference to split into two conferences rather than two divisions.  The NEFC is getting too big and maybe too diverse to continue as is. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Dan Iman on September 18, 2005, 09:52:50 PM
When speaking of schools with very high academic standards why do most of you leave out Mass Maritime.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 19, 2005, 07:42:22 AM
Dan, I dont know much about mass or maine maritime but they arent ranked in the usnews reports on top US colleges.  Here are how some eastern teams rank in the usnews top northern masters colleges.

4- College of New Jersey
7- Ithaca
14- alfred
33- Rowan
44- Salve Regina
56- Springfield
56- Umass Dartmouth
62- Saint John Fisher
62- WNEC
68- Montclair
68- Wilkes
70- Norwich.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: inthebleachers on September 19, 2005, 10:06:57 AM
As NEFC goes, don't forget Endicott is ranked #20 in the comprehensive colleges.  Now there's a school that's come a long way in a short time - their acceptance rate is only about 45% and they have a waiting list every year.  It was only four or five years ago when they'd take just about anybody.  And they've had just four years of football - they've come a long way there for sure! 
Princeton Review also recognizes 2 NEFC schools in their publications-  MIT is (of course) listed in their "361 Best Colleges" (nationwide) and Salve Regina is listed in their "224 Best Northeastern Colleges" (District of Columbia to Maine).   
I missed UMD at#56, and since the rankings were my source I don't know about MA or ME Maritime.

Speaking of the Maritime schools,  what happened with Maine Maritime vs Curry?!!  I had to read that one twice.  Where's the press release??

And, for that matter, what about Worcester State vs. Salve???  That was a close one, won by WSC with just 32 seconds left??
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: inthebleachers on September 19, 2005, 01:02:07 PM
Mass Maritime reports their incoming freshman GPA below 3.0.  A 3.0 is a B.  With MIT at 3.8, Salve at 3.3, and WNEC, Endicott and UMD all above 3.0, they have incoming classes that average out at B or above.   I stand by my earlier post, with the addition of UMD.

But, let's talk about the past weekend's games??
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on September 19, 2005, 06:36:59 PM
Quote from: inthebleachers on September 19, 2005, 10:06:57 AM

And, for that matter, what about Worcester State vs. Salve???  That was a close one, won by WSC with just 32 seconds left??


Worcester State appeared to be in the drivers seat at half time... they dominated on offense through the air...and their defense looked solid... the second half they gave Salve everychance to win the game... 3int's and a couple fumbles lost allowing Salve to have a short field.

However, Beatrice led WSC down the field w/2 min left in the ball game and guided WSC to their first victory of the year with a swing pass to Kasprack for a 12 yard TD.
WSC should get on a roll w/MIT next... before they start their division play..
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 19, 2005, 06:42:44 PM
inthebleachers, incomming high school gpa doesnt mean anything.  Ive used the example many times of the west roxbury high school player that had a 3.7 gpa and got denied at boston college....and he was their top basketball recruit!!!!!!!

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 19, 2005, 06:59:29 PM
While we're on the topic of these college's academically, Framingham sells to their recruits that FSC is the #1 State school in Mass, and the #3 State school in all of new england.  Yes their school is hard to get into but does anyone know if these numbers are true.  In the post's above I didn't see Fram in there.  I understand that Coach Sully's credentials are horrible along with the program so he has to muster some kind of BS to get players to go their. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 19, 2005, 07:27:50 PM
well sullymustgo, framingham is behind Vermont, UNH, Uconn, Uri and Umass right off the bat.  I dont think framingham is too hard to get into. 800 SATs and a C average taking high school standards would have gotten you into framingham 3 years ago.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 19, 2005, 08:39:52 PM
My point exactly bomber, Thanx.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 19, 2005, 08:42:54 PM
man sully, you have some anger in you huh
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 19, 2005, 08:50:21 PM
I've seen the collegiate careers of so many players at Framingham get ruined because of this guy.  When the guy has only won 2 games out of about 30 why is he still there?  I want to see that program succeed more than anyone and it really pisses me off to see this happening.  Back when i was a freshman his goal was to become a winning program in 3 years. He called it his 3 year plan.  Now after 3 years he made tbe team worse and he switched it to his 7 year plan.  If he lasts 7 years there the athletic director should be fired for not caring about the program. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: inthebleachers on September 19, 2005, 09:34:59 PM
Quote from: bostonbomber on September 19, 2005, 06:42:44 PMincomming high school gpa doesnt mean anything.  Ive used the example many times of the west roxbury high school player that had a 3.7 gpa and got denied at boston college....and he was their top basketball recruit!!!!!!!

The fact that BC denied your 3.7 basketball player simply means, that MOST of their kids at BC have GPA's that high and admissions just wasn't impressed enough.  The FACT is that the average GPA a school shows, means that's what they are getting ACADEMICALLY.  Whether or not admissions will cooperate with coaches is another issue entirely.  The better a school's average incoming GPA, the tougher is is for any student to shine above the rest academically. 


Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Dan Iman on September 19, 2005, 09:39:36 PM
Hey Bostonbomber, Your points are vwry well taken based on the usnews. But lets look at another stat, Mass maritime has close to a 100 percent job placement for their grads! Does usnews report anything like that for the other schools you have mentioned?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 20, 2005, 06:53:11 AM
Quote from: inthebleachers on September 19, 2005, 09:34:59 PM
Quote from: bostonbomber on September 19, 2005, 06:42:44 PMincomming high school gpa doesnt mean anything.  Ive used the example many times of the west roxbury high school player that had a 3.7 gpa and got denied at boston college....and he was their top basketball recruit!!!!!!!

The fact that BC denied your 3.7 basketball player simply means, that MOST of their kids at BC have GPA's that high and admissions just wasn't impressed enough.  The FACT is that the average GPA a school shows, means that's what they are getting ACADEMICALLY.  Whether or not admissions will cooperate with coaches is another issue entirely.  The better a school's average incoming GPA, the tougher is is for any student to shine above the rest academically. 



No Inthebleachers, what it means is that a guy like Elton Tyler at West Roxbury High school with a 3.7 GPA and 850 SATs is not as impressive as the guy from Roxbury Latin or Wellesley High school with a 3.1 GPA taking 3 AP classes and a 1300 SATs.  Colleges rank high schools based on a formula and can weigh GPAs based on AP, Honors, Standard or Basic classes. 

You can take math 1 basic all four years and get and A, or you can take AP Calc, AP Math 4 and other acclerated classes and get a B.  The latter student is regarded as better regardless of GPA.

Also in general a Newton North graduate is going to be regarded higher than a Brighton High Graduate.  And class rank is what you are probably thinking of, not GPA.  Many high schools weigh GPA to reflect accelerated classes with then computes into class rank.  So again, the student that has a B average in AP US Histrory, AP Calc, AP Chemistry, Honors English, and Music theory, the class rank will be higher than the student getting a B in Basic English, Auto Shop, Construction Carpentry,  Math 1 Basic, and Reading fundementals.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 20, 2005, 06:55:12 AM
Quote from: Dan Iman on September 19, 2005, 09:39:36 PM
Hey Bostonbomber, Your points are vwry well taken based on the usnews. But lets look at another stat, Mass maritime has close to a 100 percent job placement for their grads! Does usnews report anything like that for the other schools you have mentioned?

Your right, Mass and Maine Maritime have some good programs from what I heard.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MEMA76 on September 20, 2005, 08:49:16 AM
Not only does Maine and Mass Maritime have good job placement the possible money they can make coming out of college is extremely high. As for the GPA when at MMA's every week they have 4-12 hours of class that they have to pass. But they get no credit for them. With out including being in a military like program where they have to be up at 7 in the morning and ready to go in an inspection ready uniform. So really GPA isn't any type of rating they could take less classes and stop extra activities i'am sure the GPA would be much much higher.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MEMA76 on September 20, 2005, 09:02:06 AM
How come no one i mean no one has noticed MMA yet 2-0  beat mount ida and curry and smashed MIT in a scrimage one hundred yard rushing average above any other team in this coference  against two good teams with a crap load of bad bounce they still beat down curry and mount ida (note second strings got to play in both just to give them exp) netheir this room beloved curry or mount ida could stop MMA's full back he ran over their lineman in dead open feild my picks put it as a close race for number one between fitchburg bridgewater and MMA this year check the stats
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: inthebleachers on September 20, 2005, 09:15:34 AM
Point #1- Whether by class rank or GPA, schools that want a kid with a B, or top 20%, or whatever are drawing from a different pool than the rest.  That's what makes them tier 1 schools. The point is, we have some decent academic schools in our conf.

I'm glad to hear some feedback on Curry/MMA.  Any other talk?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 20, 2005, 11:55:42 AM
MEMA76,  One of the reasons no one has been picking MMA is that most folks base their picks on last year assuming that the team may improve slightly and so will everyone else.  Having said that Congrats to MMA for beating some tough teams.   It will be interesting to see if they can keep the momentum up.  Maybe there will be some new teams playing for the NEFC Championship this year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MEMA76 on September 20, 2005, 02:34:33 PM
Yeah i'am just saying when you make picks to post maybe their should be some more research . MMA was 3-3 in their conference and only lost 5 starters and gained their fullback from the year they rolled over every team for rushing and was one of the top teams in all of the NCAA for rushing. With all this info it makes me wonder why would some one put Mass maritime and framingham above Maine Maritime ya know.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: inthebleachers on September 20, 2005, 06:30:03 PM
Who is this fullback from Maine Maritime?  Sounds like he is commanding some respect!

Is Worcester State falling off some?  Salve was able to ALMOST take the game only because of WSC mistakes, but that's an important part of the game: being able to capitalize on the other team's mistakes.  Is WSC making too many?

Speaking of Salve, how has Endicott dealt with the loss of Scott Peters to Salve?  He was EC's everything guy if I remember correctly.  Will it matter?  Did he help Salve against WSC?

What's up with Curry??

How long will Framingham keep Sullivan?  Is he somebody's relative or something?  Geez...

Bridgewater looks strong this year?

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 20, 2005, 06:31:17 PM
ok everyone on this board has to tell me what MMA is....is it maine, mass or both?  Im getting confused.

and endicott will win the nefc this year easily.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 20, 2005, 07:06:05 PM
MEMA, it might also be because I think you're the first Maine Maritime poster EVER on the site, and this is our seventh season!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 20, 2005, 07:26:37 PM
never mind I think I have it.

and MEMA better beat mt ida by more than that if they want any kind of respect.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MEMA76 on September 20, 2005, 08:30:24 PM
The fullback for Maine Maritime is don aka Thibs  and as fore the Mount Ida game. We lost our starting quaterback to a bad hit so for half the game we had a  freshman Qb that fumbled like every play and couldn't read in our offense it makes it hard to win by alot. But the first quater when the first string qb  was in we beat them down with a vengence. Plus look at the yards rushing. They couldn't run on us the only thing they could do was pass but we are fixing that.                                                                                                             Actual i would say don't bet on Curry. Curry was sad and pathic so much that some of our  second string got to play about a quater.  aka endicott is below MIT in standing our 3rd string scored on MIT they only where able to score on our lowst level Defense so no boyd suck this year just come to the realization now and save you're self i mean half bogan is 2-0 and boyd is 1-2 so no no they won't win NEFC my pick is Bogan over boyd by atleast 18 points.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 20, 2005, 09:02:17 PM
I cant even begin to comment on that last post mema76........
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MEMA76 on September 20, 2005, 09:29:48 PM
lol you can't handle the truth you can't handle it haha
8)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 20, 2005, 10:15:18 PM
Since no one is defending him I guess everyone already knows Coach Sully at Framingham is an incompitent coach and is a complete moron when it comes to game day coaching. If anyone thinks differently I'd like to hear it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bomber Backer on September 21, 2005, 08:05:13 AM
It is important to point out that Framingham State has played with players with that same talent level as their coach over the past two years. Yes, there were some excellent players on the team over the past few years, but they were few and far between. How could they expect to win with 35 players suited up on game day? They had players playing both ways in some cases, most of which had trouble playing on one side of the ball. Ultimately, getting players into the college is the head coach's responsibility. I guess you could fault him for this, but it is the players who play on game day not the head coach. Sullymustgo, did you ever think your team had more talent that teams you lost to? 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on September 21, 2005, 08:58:15 AM

The NEFC real games begin this weekend as teams start to play teams within their conference. Curry is off to a bad start but this is their first conference game against UMASS D. This looked to be a key game in preseason but  Umass D has struggled as well. Nellie willl have his kids ready to play especially at home. Westfield hosts a strong Fitchburgh team. That game in preseason looked  to be key..  Both teams are off to a good start. Their is a lot of parody in both conferences and every league game is crucial. BSC looks good as well.  The WNEC vs. Endicott game will be interesting  to see who's who as contenders in that division.. Like most games, taking care of the ball and capatilizing on turnovers is key.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 21, 2005, 09:39:52 AM
Yes bomber backer, Framingham over the past few years should have won atleast 3 games a year.  Last year for instance Framingham was up by 17 points to a shoddy mass maritime team and they blew it. You know why? Because Sully kept throwing the ball for some stupid reason. Take the MIT game from 2 years ago, Framingham inside the 10 4 times, what does he do? Calls all passing plays after it as the running game that got them there.  They aslo should've beat WNEC both years. I admit the talent isn't the greatest there but last year they had some nasty players in camp including a top runningback, but guess what several players quit during camp because they didn't like the program.  I can deal with sub-par talent but there are games they have shots at winning and they don't even come close.  Every year He BS's his team telling them theyre going to have 75 players in camp when in actuality they start with 50.  It also doesn'e help that his offensive coordinator as know clue what is going on. My question that I would like to get answered is how many losses does it take for him to get fired. Bomber backer, if you were an athletic director and your team did this bad for 3 years straight would you really keep the coach around? Just a qucki example, Curry was absolutley horrible before Nelson got there, look what he did for the program. You can say well it's a private school, so look at Fitchburgh, that coach turned it around with getting dealt a crap hand.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 21, 2005, 09:40:51 AM
O and by the way, Good coaches win games when their team has less talent than the other team.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 21, 2005, 09:53:06 AM
sully, I would agree with you that many of the mass state schools are potential gold mines for d3football....but you need 3 good coaches to get it done. You have to sell those programs to hs and you have to hit hs football in cities hard, especially in boston.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 21, 2005, 10:03:44 AM
I know what you mean needing to have 3 good coaches and Framingham doesn't have that.  Sully is a pretty good defensive coach, it's his offensive side and his head coach credentials that are horrible. But then again why not bring in an offensive coordinator.  He needs to let good ole coach rogers go as O coordinator.  Just cause he coached him on a past team doesn't mean you have to lose games over it.  All I'm trying to say is that Sully has obviously made this program worse and that they should give someone else a shot. Before he was there atleast the team was in 8 out of 10 games a year and would win 3-5 of them.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 21, 2005, 10:07:33 AM
yea, I feel for ya sullymustgo.  I dont know much about framingham than from what one ex player tells me but you seem to be pretty pissed. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: coachzilly on September 21, 2005, 10:10:11 AM
As a highschool coach who sent players to many d2 and d3 schools in NE I have seen both the best and the worst.  Coach Haverty at Fitchburg started with even less than Sully at Framingham and look where FSC is now!  Sully had a solid core of players when he arrived, got a great gym and field turf and he brought the program down the tubes!  It is obvious that the Framingham administration does not care, for if they did he'd be gone. They compete in baseball without a field on campus.  Yet football is a joke!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bomber Backer on September 21, 2005, 10:56:35 AM
It is important to note that all of the Framingham State Coaches have other full time jobs. This is true for some, maybe all of the state schools in this conference. If the school wants to be competitive perhaps they need to make the commitment to pay a full time coach. It is tough to imagine these schools competing with team that have 3 full times coaches on their staff.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MEMA76 on September 21, 2005, 02:55:26 PM
yeah but what is framinghams enrollment no excuse MEMA and Mass maritime have enrollment of like 800 so no excuse we have 1 head coach and 7 asst coachs not including managers and asst students( five years that can play etc)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 21, 2005, 03:36:33 PM
Part time coaches is no excuse.  Sully puts the time in as if he were full time, there's no complaints by me about his dedication, he just sux as a head coach.  Zilly is right, Framingham had a good core group of players when he arrived and he ruined it. 99% of those who played under Sully at Framinghan think he's a peice of crap, they just can't say anything cause they would get benched.  Lack of male enrollment isn't an excuse either, Basketball team made it to the finals last year and the baseball team is competitive every year as well, Even the soccer team is desent now.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bomber Backer on September 21, 2005, 07:01:21 PM
SullyMustGo, clearly there are many problems at Framingham State. It sounds like Coach Sullivan is having trouble with athletes buying into the system. They did win a game this season, and then got crushed by a good Endicott team. It will be interesting to see how they do the rest of the year. In addition, Endicott should surprise some people this year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 21, 2005, 07:09:02 PM
Yea they beat an MIT team that couldn't beat the Massachusetts school of the blind, which can beat Mass Maritime so maybe Fram can go 2-7. Sully's best year yet.  I'm just hoping they can him before next years season. Bring back some dignity to this program.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jeff on September 21, 2005, 08:01:20 PM
having played at FSC, I can honestly say I had the worst experience there of my life...I was a mature, talented player that went DOWNHILL in my PRIME...D3 footbal, after putting so much work into it, should have been fun and rewarding...Matter of fact, I could have played another year, but why on earth would anyone go through that bs at that school?

We were always "in" games before this new coach came around...We were actually beating a D2 team at the half, which was a big deal for the program...We had EASILY the worst field in North America, changed in the PARKING LOT and didn't have a weight room...Yet this new coach comes in with a new facility, weight room and turf field and gets WORSE?  How can you get worse than 3-7 with all this new stuff?  He's found a way...

After dedicating myself in the weight room, I went to camp and noticed that this coach has no clue whatsoever...

My specialty coach didn't even have a clue and was attempting to teach me new things, yet never played my position...


I rant...As you can tell, I am fed up with my alma mater in a BIG WAY...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 21, 2005, 08:26:14 PM
Jeff tell me about it, the coaching staff is horrible.  So many talented upper classman that were already in the program before he got there were kicked off the team or pratically were forced to quit for such small stupid incidents it was like he wanted nothing to do with players of the former program. His first year as the coach we had a very talented WR, best on the team by far to compliment Luke Callahan.  The moron that the coach is, tells him he's going to play DB from now on and not WR. The player told coach he would play both ways because he still wanted to play WR.  Coach says no way and the player quits.  Sully runs his talent out of town. It's almost like the athletic dept. hired him so the program would fail and they would beable to cut the football program. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gametimeplayer on September 21, 2005, 10:11:52 PM
Well i love this site and have been reading up on what you all have to say.  Seems like you people know more then some of the reporters that write up these articles in the paper every weekend. 
Now let me say what i came here to say.  SALVE has had a very tough two years and you guys have mentioned the fact that we have become a tough school to get into but that is no excuse for lossing.  But this year we feel good about the team that we can play with anyone.  I was waiting for this time to come and i had a feeling it was going to take a couple years when i was a freshmen considering we had players that didnt appriaciate the game. 
Now WSC made mistakes but doesn't there have to be a player that finds himself in the right place reading the eyes of the quarterback or jumping on a pattern.  What about the backs who turn the corner and gain those extra yards to keep the drive going. Oh and the wideouts that when the ball came to them won the battle over the DBs.  So what im getting at is, you say they were mistakes while i say that we needed some time to realize that were no push over this year.
PS- our offense is alittle out dated but we'll deal with it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: GoPats123 on September 22, 2005, 10:23:51 AM
Can we please get serious here. Framingham was always awful and to say that  in the past they were in 5-7 games a year is nothing to brag about. The program has always been lousy and no matter who you get to coach there it will always be a joke. So can we all forget are past heisman dreams and get on with your lives
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 22, 2005, 11:55:33 AM
To say Framingham or any poor team in the NEFC will always be bad is rediculous.  Look at Maine for example, for the past 4 seasons they have only won 1 or 2 games a year, and this year they are looking very good.  Fitchburgh was always a below .500 team until last year also. So GoPats are you saying that a program that got even worse over the past 3 seasons should just keep their pathetic coach becasue the future does't look good no matter what? I don't mind Famingham losing if they are out played by superior talent and if the head coach did all he can do.  With Sully that's not the case.  Like the old quoe states, "A good coach makes average players good and good players great." Well Sully is making good players average and average player pathletic.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny on the Spot on September 22, 2005, 01:20:54 PM
Hola Guys, first post of the year, I've been busy. But I wanted to throw in my two cents. First off, I went to and played for Nichols College (who stink right now) and their academic programs for Business were top notch. They posted 95% of my graduating class w/ jobs paying an average of 42K after graduation. The school is easy to get in to because they want to try to grow beyond the 800 or so students they see. They have spent some coin down there in Bison land and built a new field and a new gym, rivaling anything in the NEFC (I have not seen the new field, but that's what they say).

Additionally the NEFC all comes down to recruiting, even more than the coaches ability. If the coach can sell the school he can get more talented players and then succeed. Gametimeplayer mentioned Salve, and to go back in time to when they were good they had a coach by the name of Tim Cohen who really got the job done with recruiting and was an excellent coach. He moved to High School in RI and won two or three D1 State titles and has made the playoffs every year. Salve had a great coach for a while and made some headway.

Were in the NEFC folks, good athletes are not just going to show up on your doorstep and play. A lot of good New England athletes go to D2, D1AA and D1 schools either join the team and never touch the field or give up football entirely because a lot of students think that D3 football is crap, and it isn't. To attract better players coaches need to do a better job of selling the schools as a great alternative to going to URI or UCONN having some fun and playing four years of competitive football. Once they do that they will bolster support for the league and change the perception of the NEFC until that happens we will always be a weak conference.

Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to cath up
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: GoPats123 on September 22, 2005, 01:30:37 PM
Sully  if you have seen any FSC games over the past year you would see a bunch of kids running around who have no business playing football never mind college football. A lot of their players would not start for a good high school team. By no means am I defending Sully but when you have 200 pound O tackle you have to realize it's the players not the coach. And what kid with any sort of talented is going to go there and Line up next to a kid who isn't good engough to start for a pop warner team. It is really sad when a school had a 4-6 year and it is refered to as the glory days.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jeff on September 22, 2005, 01:41:25 PM
lets put in frankly Pats fan....

do you see a difference between losing 20-19 and 75-0?  Or is that all the same?

My first year, we lost one game vs. Mass Maritime, who finished 8-2, by a 47-yard field goal...We lost vs. Worcester State because of a missed extra point in overtime...You dont see the difference of losing 5 games under 7-points in a team? 

Losing is losing, dont get me wrong, but we were always a hump team that simply needed to catch a few breaks to be a .500+ team...

And there was enough talent while I was there to be a decent squad...Matter of fact, there were NUMEROUS players getting New England honors, d2/D3 All-Star, all-conference players...

and yes, I will take 3-7 losing a few tight games over 0-9, without a shot in hell of winning a game...

and again, having a BRAND new facility/weight room and the BEST field in the NEFC is enough to sell potential athletes to come to a school...

so if a team/coach go 3-7 without anything like gym/weightroom/field, why did Framingham and the state of Mass spend MILLIONS of dollars on these buildings and field if ONLY athletes use them?  Isn't the point of renewing a facility to entice new/better athletes to a school?

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: GoPats123 on September 22, 2005, 01:51:52 PM
I agree that losing by  a few points due to some tough breaks is better than getting smoked week in and week out. But losing is losing and just becuase you stayed close with a good team doesn't mean you had a good team. And all this about a new field and weight room means nothing.  The field is throw in the middle of nowhere the only thing that is going to change that program is if they start to win, they should think about droping to Jv status and trying to recruit something that resembles a football player instead of throwing these poor kids to the wolves every week.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 22, 2005, 01:59:40 PM
GoPats, losing by a few points to good teams is inches away from being a good team youself. IN 2000 Framingham was 4-6. If a few of those games sway the other way they go atleast 5-5 if not 6-4. Have you played under Sully? It's a nightmare.  The blind leading the blind.  Can you actually tell me Sully hasn't destroyed that program?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: GoPats123 on September 22, 2005, 02:19:59 PM
I have never played for Sully I know he is an awful coach but I really don't think anything would be that different if there was a new coach
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 22, 2005, 02:34:50 PM
I don't understand how you can say a different coach wouldn't matter. Havn't you see the NEFC the past 5 years? It's been full of teams that were horrible at one point and their program has been turned around by a new coach. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jeff on September 22, 2005, 03:03:30 PM
again, to keep it simple...How can a program get WORSE when they get a new facility, a new weight room and a new field?  Why spend the millions if its not attracting athletes?

Coach A goes 4-6, coach B goes 0-9, clearly one coach was able to do "something" with nothing, while the other coach has done "nothing" with something...

It can't be to crazy of a thought to think that a program could go up....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bomber Backer on September 22, 2005, 03:24:31 PM
When Sully tried to bring his old-school approach to Framingham State players didn't respond, good players quit, leaders questioned the method to the madness. And when you lose from the start, players start to doubt themselves and blame the head coach. No tradition is built and you start over each year and hope the new recruits coming in don't listen to the bad things upper classmen have to say. A tough thing when you continue to lose. Its too bad these so called good players didn't realize what privilege it is to play college football, something that 99% of people out there will never do. Look at yourself before you spread blame. You wore the pads. How much time and energy was wasted on hating a coach? Did you expect to win with linemen who didn't start in high school and cry at halftime? Can you win with talented players who are 18 playing against talented 21year olds? The bottom line is when you commit to a season, play it the best you can, don't quit, don't bitch, your lucky to be playing football in your 20's. If you're so good and you love football so much I'm sure other schools will take you. It is coach Sullivan's fault for thinking this approach would work with kids these days who think respect should be given and not earned. It's a different era of football, clearly Sully's time has passed, but lets not blame this totally on the coach.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: GoPats123 on September 22, 2005, 03:25:31 PM
I don't get the idea that a field and weight room should automatically attract an althlete. This is not the 1970's all schools now have these resources. Can you blame any kid coming out of school that wouldn't want to go to FSC and play for a team that hasn't one since it's been around. And if you say that these 4-6 teams were talented, I would like for you to honstely tell me that you think one kid from these 0 for team's could touch the field for any those teams. It comes down to kids want to play for teams that win and unless you have the players to win it doesn't matter who coaches.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny on the Spot on September 22, 2005, 04:40:33 PM
I don't care how many points you get beat by if its 1 or 101, Framingham's record since 1999 is 9-49 they only have won nine of their games for the last six years. I don't care who the coach is, what the gym or the field look like a good student athlete is not going to go to a school that has always been so consistently terrible.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 22, 2005, 05:30:26 PM
In my other post I stated the talent isn't there either, but the coach is the main reason the program sux. Please Sully just resign and let someone new atleast try.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 22, 2005, 06:19:34 PM
We interrupt this crusade against Sully and Framingham State, to make some NEFC picks for this week.

UMD 7 at Curry 21
Framingham 0 at Bridgewater 50
EC 28 at WNEC 20
MEM 35 @MAM 7
Fitchburg 35 @Westfield 21
Worcester 28 at MIT 7
Nichols 14 at Salve 20

I think there are some key games:  UMD/Curry - It would be amazing to see UMD go 0-3.  The Fitchtburg/Westfield game is the Bogan championship.  EC/WNEC- EC will need to cut down on penalties and not turn the ball over or they could bee in for a long afternoon and ruin their chances at the Boyd title.  I think that Salve will beat Nichols in a close one. Again turnovers and penalties could make the difference.

Ok, now that we have that out of the way back to picking on Sully.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 22, 2005, 07:01:37 PM
No I'll take a break for a second to make some picks aswell.

UMD 13 at Curry 28
Framingham 7 at Bridgewater 46
EC 28 at WNEC 13
MEM 52 at MAM 0
Fitchburg 27 at Westfield 24
Worcester 31 at MIT 3
Nichols 21 at Salve 14
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gametimeplayer on September 22, 2005, 07:54:12 PM
Jonny on the spot brings up alot of good points

Salve will put up a good amount of points against Nichols but might give up a bunch also.  But i see it going Salve 34 - Nichols 20
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on September 22, 2005, 08:39:10 PM
Quote from: gametimeplayer on September 21, 2005, 10:11:52 PM

Now WSC made mistakes but doesn't there have to be a player that finds himself in the right place reading the eyes of the quarterback or jumping on a pattern.  What about the backs who turn the corner and gain those extra yards to keep the drive going. Oh and the wideouts that when the ball came to them won the battle over the DBs.  So what im getting at is, you say they were mistakes while i say that we needed some time to realize that were no push over this year.


First, I agree with you on the Salve offense... and I also agree that they attacked #25 for WSC... the kid was terrible (or the DB coach is terrible)... #25 never looked for the ball...

The turnovers on WSC offense... that wasn't any skill on Salve part... watch the game film... the int's were bad... now there are some issues... sloppy conditions and if you noticed they were'nt rotating dry balls... second one of the 3 was a broken route... the ball was thrown to the side-line and reciever ran a fade... 2-3 was thrown into 3 white shirts... that's all on the qb... if a mlb can catch a ball thrown into his chest he shouldn't be playing college football...

That being said WSC still got the job done through the air when it counted... and that's credited to the great QB they have... beatrice should make their division interesting... MIT should be another tune-up game for WSC before they hit their in conference games.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jeff on September 22, 2005, 09:55:36 PM
bomber...

I gotta laugh...How does a coach clear house with 35 guys to begin with? Those 35 guys where there to play because of love..Its not like he had to skim through 200 players and cut 50, he cut down from 35!!!  The whole old school thing is funny, you must have played for him, cause you hit some stuff on the head....Spare me the whole respect is earned, yada yada...This coach got plenty of respect to start and if anything, how has he earned a pass from criticism?

It takes a special coach to make good players quit and for leaders to question, dont ya think... ;D

Again, its as if you speak of Bobby Bowden coming to FSC...Its was some guy from Worcester St. and a D25 Central Mass HS...His record SPEAKS for itself...I played his first year, he's had a few more and its got WORSE

I sleep easy at night knowing I busted my balls to prepare for a season and this coach...And please dont make a sweet aplogy for this coach...He's share of the blame pie is the largest...Its got WORSE under his watch...And no, I dont consider myself lucky to have been 20 playing there, its a nightmare...I actually avoid football talk because I am EMBARASSED of this program and where its going...

and the whole "new" stuff at FSC is funny...Why do you guys think facilites are built?  To look good?  To keep student athletes out?  This is like a 5th grade discussion about economics...Its simple really, you dont build football fields, locker rooms and weight rooms, if you dont think they will attract student/athletes that pay money....Why would the state have pumped money into Framingham State if they thought the athletic programs would STILL be unable to support themselves?  The average student doesn't use this equipment, its the athletes...

There, I have said my peice...again  :P



UMD 20 at Curry 18
Framingham 6 at Bridgewater 40
EC 29 at WNEC 18
MEM 44 at MAM 7
Fitchburg 23 at Westfield 24
Worcester 41 at MIT 0
Nichols 21 at Salve 17







Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bomber Backer on September 23, 2005, 08:14:15 AM
Jeff, Sullymustgo........

As a Framingham Alum. I sympathize with you guys. Your College playing experience should have been a lot better. Hopefully the school will make the necessary changes. Hope we are not boring everyone else on this post with the Sully talk. Anyway, good luck to Framingham State this weekend. Lets hope they can keep it close.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny on the Spot on September 23, 2005, 09:50:21 AM
Picks for the week

UMD 17 at Curry 21
Framingham 9 at Bridgewater 42
EC 21 at WNEC 14
Fitchburg 21 at Westfield 28
Worcester 24 at MIT 10
Nichols 10 at Salve 7
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on September 23, 2005, 09:57:57 AM
UMD 14 at Curry 28
Framingham 6 at Bridgewater 40
EC 21 at WNEC 7
MEM 28 at MAM 24
Fitchburg 14 at Westfield 28
Worcester 49 at MIT 14
Nichols 17 at Salve 31
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Longtooth on September 23, 2005, 03:09:44 PM
Good Luck Ephs
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: inthebleachers on September 23, 2005, 04:10:45 PM
I agree that facilities are a lousy bribe to influence kids to attend a certain school; most of these athletes were members of places like Gold's, etc during high school and are not that easily impressed. 
So, what do I feel are the 2 key attributes to a coach getting the recruits?
1.  personality
2.  coaching talent
In that order.
In the recruiting game, coaches have to be good salesmen.  The ones who understand the psychology of hooking the kids and their parents (don't forget the influence of the parents who are paying the bills) to buy into the whole experience come out winners. How many recruits go to play for Steve Nelson at Curry because their fathers were excited after a meeting with him?  The guys who understand this psychology are better motivators, too.  We've talked about not having facilities - back in the days when Salve was a powerhouse, Coach Coen had those kids so into it that they didn't even care that they had no field house, no weight room, no lockers - they had to wash their own uniforms and keep them and their equipment in their rooms.  But, he was still able to get the recruits, still able to make them buy in, and still able to produce a championship team. 

Framingham's new facilities are great, but it's going to take more than that to turn things around,

 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 23, 2005, 04:48:35 PM
Actually to be honest Sully isn't that bad of a recruiter in the sense that he's a good "salesman".  He pumps so much BS into new recruits it actually does more harm than good in the longrun because once they're enrolled for a year they realize how bad the program is and what Sully is really like and they quit or transfer.  I have a great love for the game and even though I hate his coaching I do not regret playing football there because I player in everygame every year, I just would have won more games.  I want to see Framingham become a respected team in the NEFC and it may not happen but one thing's for sure, it's never gonna happen with Sullivan calling the shots.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: inthebleachers on September 23, 2005, 05:36:48 PM
Yeah, SullyMustGo, I would have to agree... as with any salesman, the product behind the sales job has to be a good one or the consumer (in this case the kids) will figure out pretty quickly that they've bought a raw deal.  But the motivator piece of the 2 part doesn't seem to be there, maybe that's where he's falling short?   
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: coachzilly on September 23, 2005, 05:56:54 PM
Tim Coen, now that's a football coach as a RI High School Coach I have the the pleasure to work with him and see him suceed everywhere he has been.  Forget the recruiting, he makes the wing-t exciting and gets his players ready like no one else I have ever seen whether be at any RI highschool, where he worked or at Salve.  Putting Sullivan in the same sentence with him is an injustice.  How about Sully's marches to practice and all the other **** he found important rather than gaining his player's respect by being a stand up guy.  What he did to Luke Callahan, one of the most exciting college qb's I have ever seen on any level was a sin.  I can't see the Rams playing football much longer. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 23, 2005, 08:05:45 PM
As a motivator Sully belongs in a church and saying a eulogy.  He is the worst coach I think football has ever seen when it comes to motivating his team.  Take last years game at Fitchburgh for instance. He has his team warm up at a field off campus and doesn't show up to the game until 10 minutes before gametime. He told his team it was like they were Rocky Balboa in Rocky I and Fitchburgh was the big bad Apollo Creed, but the opposite. (Because in the movie Apollo was late). Hey coach Sully, besides this being rediculous, Rocky lost in Rocky I and Framingham got absolutly embarrassed 75-0.  He should have resigned after that game. If he's still there next year. Asst. Athletic director Ms. Williams needs to think about why she is there on that positon. Ever think it was to make every sports program the best it can be. Obviously in football she doesn't care.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: coachzilly on September 23, 2005, 08:36:25 PM
Let's see, let's pull a bush-league move and really piss off a better club, no wonder they didn't call of the dogs!  Also, Ms. Williams making football decisions...enough said!  Poor Rams, at least they leave Sarno alone, hopefully.  I'll bet he could coach some ball.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 23, 2005, 08:55:57 PM
Thats what I never understood about Framingham.  They have a former head football coach as the athletic director yet the football team gets the worst treatment. They hired Sully, technically they hired him because his father was going to be a big part of the team but unfortunatly his health prevented him from coaching.  Instead they were left with little Sully.  A former coach as the AD and they let the Asst. AD do everything and from what I've seen she trys to sabatoge the team.  She puts up a front in public but in reality she's just as bad as Sully, since she did hire him. Obviously winning isn't important there at that is what breaks my heart.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: admin on September 23, 2005, 09:06:24 PM
Alright, SMG, listen -- you've obviously got an axe to grind and you have certainly made your position clear. But enough, already. Take it to the Framingham administration if you have a problem. You're doing nothing by posting cowardly about it here under a generic e-mail address.

I support your right to have your opinion but I actually don't have to support your right to post it on this Web site over and over ... and over and over and over. Move on, or we'll move you on for you.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 23, 2005, 09:15:55 PM
This is a open forum, how is what I'm saying illegal? Plus no one else is bring up any topics.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 23, 2005, 09:20:34 PM
What did Ms. Williams or Sully complain to you guys? I know they look at this.  This is rediculous if they can't take the heat from a open forum, hahaha.  I have a right to speak my mind on here as long as I don't use obseen language or threat anybody.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: admin on September 23, 2005, 09:21:53 PM
Why do you say it's an open forum? You have to register to enter.
Quote from: SullyMustGo on September 23, 2005, 09:15:55 PM
This is a open forum, how is what I'm saying illegal? Plus no one else is bring [sic] up any topics.

That doesn't mean you have to beat the same horse to death over and over. Consider it a heads-up. We've gotten your point. But this site, while available to those who wish to register, isn't here to support your axe-grinding.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: admin on September 23, 2005, 09:23:47 PM
Quote from: SullyMustGo on September 23, 2005, 09:20:34 PM
This is rediculous [sic] if they can't take the heat from a open forum, hahaha. I have a right to speak my mind on here as long as I don't use obseen [sic] language or threat [sic] anybody.

Uh huh... you keep thinking that. We have the right to restrict the forum on whatever basis we like. But if you don't heed the warning there won't be another. End of conversation.

I look back and see there is indeed other conversation here -- it's just hard to find it in your diatribe.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 23, 2005, 09:27:03 PM
I don't understand why what I'm writing is illegal? Some people on here praise people for their accomplishments others point out wrong doings, thats what a open post forum like this is all about.  I havn't gone beyond the limits here. I'm speaking my mind without swearing or threatening anyone.  I would like a better explanation to why I got a warning.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: admin on September 23, 2005, 09:28:39 PM
Axe-grinding.

This is not a place for axe-grinding.

Stop your axe-grinding.


You have made your point.

Hopefully this is clear enough for you.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 23, 2005, 09:30:25 PM
I'm not trying to fight with you, I get a little angry when I get warned for expressing my right.  Please send me the link to your rules, If I am breaking one I will stop and apoligize.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 23, 2005, 09:33:11 PM
Also if you read the other conferences posts they all talk trash. Why am I being singled out here?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: admin on September 23, 2005, 09:35:36 PM
I am telling you the rule right here in my posts. If you continue to debate it you'll be doing it elsewhere, because you won't be posting on the site.

Why is this so hard to understand? I have warned you. If you don't appreciate the warning or abide by it then you can go elsewhere. I have the right to apply whatever rules necessary, and I have decided that this is enough.

Consistently over the course of the seven seasons that I have moderated this message board, I have applied the rules. You do not have an inalienable right to be on this message board -- it is private property.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: admin on September 23, 2005, 09:38:31 PM
Quote from: SullyMustGo on September 23, 2005, 09:33:11 PM
Also if you read the other conferences posts they all talk trash. Why am I being singled out here?

I don't see anyone else dominating a message board with their axe to grind against an individual. But I have removed other posts, banned other posters, and warned other posters.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 23, 2005, 09:40:42 PM
So what exactly can I say on here and cannot say? (Im not trying to be a smart*** by asking this) I would like to legally speak my mind on here without getting warned.  I did not swear or threaten.  So can I write something on here if someone else brings up Framingham? Can I reply to it? Now legally I did nothing wrong so you must have gotten a call from the Asst. AD from Framingham telling you to stop me from speaking my mind.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: admin on September 23, 2005, 09:59:02 PM
Yeah, uhm, you'd be wrong there. I have received no phone calls (or e-mails, in case you were wondering) from anyone at Framingham -- not the coaching staff, not the athletic administration. No faxes (we don't have one).

If you need guidance regarding what axe-grinding is, then I can't help you. Our Terms of Service are on the front page of the board. Also, you are edging into the area of harassing as mentioned in the registration agreement to use the board.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: inthebleachers on September 24, 2005, 10:36:10 AM
Over the past week or so, we have had some good conversations about a variety of different topics that pretty much anyone could weigh in on.  I guess the Framingham State situation is really not something the majority of participants want to read page after page about.  Maybe it's time to "move on" for the sake of keeping this message board fun and interesting for everyone.  There must be other stuff to talk about.

Trivia Question:  Which NEFC team has a player who is a relative of the late, great Harry Agganis?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jeff on September 24, 2005, 10:52:26 AM
I've already said my piece...

and before Framingham came up, there were 4 pages compared to 50 in other conferences...Its not like this interupted anything special...

my guess would be Endicott... ;)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 24, 2005, 06:51:23 PM
Thank you Mr. Admin. I agree we have had enough about Sully.  I fully support SMG having a right to speak his mind, but by the 5th or 6th message we got it.  Actually I think we got it from his name. 

Now onto some other NEFC stuff.  Poor WNEC must be one of the toughest 0-3 teams in the NEFC.  The hung with Fitchburg for a while to lose 35-20.  Then they lose by 1 to Westfield 14-13, and now after leading EC 14-10 at the half lose 24-14. 

And UMD 0-4 to start the season.  Wow.  Of course Curry was oout for blood after have lost 2 in a row also.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 25, 2005, 05:04:27 PM
See what happens in here when I can't point out how bad of a coach Sully is, no one else talks or brings up any other topics.  I think there were football games playes saturday, anyone have anything to say about them.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 25, 2005, 09:57:37 PM
Some news that I dont think has been posted on this site yet.  Former Curry College Player Emmanuel Parent was sentenced to 2 1/2 years for a drunk driving crash last year.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/09/13/penitence_greets_grief_as_drunk_driver_sentenced/
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Diablo981 on September 26, 2005, 11:49:52 AM
Huge game this weekend for what could turn out to be the Bogan Championship. Bridgewater State at Fitchburg State. What's it going to take for Bridgewater to win this game?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on September 26, 2005, 02:01:27 PM
Should be a pretty good game between  Fitchburgh and BSC. Both teams are very good defensively but I give the nod to BSC as they are more balanced on offense.
Although BSC has had 3 pretty easy opening games, Fitchburgh has a very good running game but Westfield Defense came to play and shut them down.Westfield had 3 opportunities to win  the game but could not make the big play.The Bogan is by far the toughest conference this year. If Westfield can find some offense they can beat anyone in that division.Before the season is over I think that there will not be an undefeated team in the conference.Watch out for Westfield, Me maritime,and Worcester State to win a couple big games.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny on the Spot on September 26, 2005, 04:29:31 PM
What's up with the Nichols College Bison, 0-3 seems like a far cry from the team that played for the NEFC Championship in 2000 and 2001. I don't now what there doing over there, but it isn't working.

I am pulling for Fitchburg versus BSC they can really pound it in there with the run, but I gotta go with waggle the Bogan is good this year and I wouldn't be supprised as the teams work through eachother the division comes down to the wire.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 26, 2005, 04:33:54 PM
I know it was only against Framingham but BSC looked incredible on Saturday. Best offense I've seen them have in a while. I think they have the edge ovr Fitchburgh.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MOJO on September 26, 2005, 09:31:47 PM
Sullymustgo,
I follow the MAC, but sometimes peruse the other boards just to see what's going on.  I found your posts to be quite entertaining.  With that being said,sometimes you just gotta let go.  If this coach and program are as inept as you describe, it's obvious the powers to be at that school don't give a rip.  Time to punt!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on September 26, 2005, 10:52:15 PM
Quote from: waggle09 on September 26, 2005, 02:01:27 PM
If Westfield can find some offense they can beat anyone in that division.Before the season is over I think that there will not be an undefeated team in the conference.Watch out for Westfield, Me maritime,and Worcester State to win a couple big games.

I'm looking forward to Westfield State @ WSC this friday night... WSC has improved every game this season... they have a offense that can put up points... it will be intersting to see how Westfield defends the spread... if they don't find their offense they might lose 2 straight.

If WSC can put up points against Westfield they might be the sleeper in the league this season. 

What is the scouting report on Maine Mari... I'm a follower of the Liberty league... but got transfered into to Worcester... not up to speed yet on the whole NEFC
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bearyear on September 26, 2005, 11:12:48 PM
you guys can quote me on this, the bsc bears will win the championship this year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Diablo981 on September 27, 2005, 01:15:44 PM
BSC's defense has been playing lights out this year, shutting down good teams like UMD and Nichols. The Bears lead the league in takeways and are putting up huge numbers on offense. it should be a good game but i think the bears have this one locked.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on September 27, 2005, 02:57:44 PM
I would agree that Bridgewater States defense looks good but the teams that they have faced thus far are young and beat up. Opening game beat  a nichol's team were the starting qb was knocked out in 1st quarter and replaced by a freshman, beat UMD who is down big time this year and beat up on Framingham. THere remaing games will be more formidable and will tell the story. I like BSC because they are balanced on defense and offense.  key to game in fitchburgh  as both defenses have to shut down run game and I give BSC the edge in passing game....
Will see.....remember I do not think any team will run the table in the Bogan division.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: br7o7wn on September 27, 2005, 03:01:34 PM
I would like to take just a moment to address the Framingham State issue. I was a member of that team from '98-'00 and I played under Coach Stachan. He was a good coach, and would've done much better if he had been a full-time coach. However, we never had the talent required to really compete for a championship. Out of 22 starters there were several of us who were potential All-Leaguers, a core of average players, and then there were always those kids who were thrust into starting action that never should've been on the field! It is difficult to win with gaping wholes in your roster! We had tp play some linemen both ways because they were better at 50% than the 2nd teamers fully rested!!I did play elsewhere, my freshman year was spent at Brockport State, so I do know what a real program is like! I also spent 4 years in the semi-pro leagues in NY before I went back to school at FSC...I know good football and bad football!Luckily I did not play for Coach Sullivan, but I do agree that the program needs to establish a new direction! In all honesty, I feel that the entire conference is a joke! There are so many teams and the talent is so watered down! I believe some of the worst college football in the nation is played on Saturdays between these NEFC teams!!! Maybe if FSC and some other schools dropped their programs, the quality of football would improve in this conference!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bomber Backer on September 27, 2005, 05:27:01 PM
Well said br7o7wn, this conference will always get smoked in the first round of the NCAA's. Look what happened to a Fitchburg team in the ECAC's vs Springfield. The entire Fitchburg (Coaches, players) team though they were the big bad bullies when the ran up the score on Framingham State. Look what happend when they played a real team. I'm not sure if NEFC players know what real division 3 football is.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 27, 2005, 06:40:48 PM
Yeah, I would agree that BSC looks like a team that could win the NEFC.  They have the No.1 scoring offense, No. 1 scoring defense, No. 1 in turnover margin, and near last in penalties.  So basically they score, stop the opponent from scoring and protect the rock.  Those are pretty deadly combinations.  Of course Fitchburg, and Me Maritime are not too bad either.

One note regarding Bomber Backer and NEFC teams not knowing what a real D3 team looks like,  I think a lot of the reason that EC has been able to get a good program going quickly is that they have played some real D3 competition in RPI the last two years.  Yes, they got smoked both times, but at least they saw what real D3 football is and didn't run and hide from it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bearyear on September 27, 2005, 07:47:00 PM
br7o7wn by any chance did you play while abraham bascon was playing?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: br7o7wn on September 27, 2005, 08:12:30 PM
I did play with Abe, a good football player! Not an intimidating site on the field, but he could burn past most defenders! He was a good teammate, always positive and a hard worker!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on September 27, 2005, 10:05:36 PM
Honestly though I don't think Fitchburg has any clue what's coming this week.  Bridgewater State has the best receivers in the league and there is no way that Fitchburg's defense can stop them, let alone Brendan Kavey nationally ranked 5th in Division III football in yards per game and 1st in scoring per game.  Due to the run stopping ability of the Bears defense and the scoring ability of their offense, it forces opposing teams to put the ball in the air and the result has been about 4 interceptions a game.  Let's Get Serious Now!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MOJO on September 27, 2005, 10:06:27 PM
Admin,
Where has SULLYMUSTGO gone to.  I miss his posts.  I'm tellin ya, he was quite entertaining.  

Bomber,
You mentioned that Framingham State was accepting students with 800 SAT scores and C averages.  Do the bulk of their future alumni aspire to be Walmart associates?  Not many future attorneys or physicians in this group.

SULLYMUSTGO,
Come back!  Forget I told you to punt.  Tell us more about "coach sullivan" and his ongoing success at "The Fram".  Write a book, make a movie, but please keep preaching the gosphel of Sully.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 27, 2005, 10:20:18 PM
I'm still here MOJO. I have so many stories of the moronic things he's done while coaching at Framingam, but for some reason I'm gonna get in trouble for saying things about him. I will tell you this though.  Look around at the coaching staff from his first year til now. There is one coach still there and it is the very under experienced O-Coordinator who doesn't know his elbow from a hole in the ground. Sully treats his staff like crap and doesn't listen to any input they have to say unless he already agrees with it. It's no coinsidence that they all leave after one year there.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bearyear on September 28, 2005, 12:36:22 AM
pimpingold, i couldnt agree with you anymore. the only competition that will be goin on is to see who will be second behind the bears. the only thing that held the bears back last year was their defense and obv they have fixed that.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MOJO on September 28, 2005, 07:57:51 AM
SULLYMUSTGO,
Thanks for responding back.  Glad you didn't abandon the board.  It's amazing, if all things are as you say, that "coach sullivan" is still employed.  That being said, I have seen situations in the other conferences where there are disparidys amongst schools with respect to applicant academic performance expectations and financial aid packages.  These factors can give a school a significant advantage with respect to recruiting.  If this is the situation, then the coach's hands are somewhat tied.  If this is not the case and coach is truly a incompetent, then yes the coach should be canned.  I make this statement based on the fact he's not only hurting the school but more importantly the kids. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bomber Backer on September 28, 2005, 08:40:30 AM
Give Credit to Endicott for hanging in there with Hartwick and playing RPI, who made it to the NCAA final four in 2003. The experince gained from playing qualitly teams priceless.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 28, 2005, 09:15:28 AM
Mojo even though I would love to see a new coach at Framingham, I have to say it's not just his fault. Framingham is one of the tougher state schools to get into. Fram gets no freebee's, meaning someone who would normally get rejected would get accepted for football. From what I've heard Worcestor State gets 10. No one cares about football there, not even the AD's, it's pretty sad. But on the other hand Framingham has always been like that and the pre-Sully era teams were atleast somewhat respectable and could hang in there and win 4 or 5 games a year.
It's very obvious to all the fans and players there that Sully has severly cripled that program.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: br7o7wn on September 28, 2005, 07:51:55 PM
"Sully", man I feel for you!! Speaking from first hand experience, Framingham football is one of the most frustrating things I have ever encountered!! Even before Sullivan, during the Strachan era, it was not easy to get the guys we wanted into the school. However, I must say that I n ever really bought into the whole "tough school to get into" routine. I was an average student at best, and I know some sub-par students who got in easy also. The truth of the matter is that most quality prospects have no desire to come to FSC, and the ones that do are so discouraged after 1 or 2 years that they quit or transfer. When I enrolled in '98 we had a pretty good lineup, but zero depth! Yet there were at least 10-15 former players still in school that were mature and probably decent ballers, but quit the team out of frustration w/the program...add those extra players with their potential experience and talent and you would've had a real team. I believe the only way to turn that program around is to find a coach that can dedicate himself to the program enough so that he can find a way to get his players to over-achieve and pull some big victories out of their A$$ and then land just a little more talent and depth the next year...and then it will begin to build momentum!! Also, whoever takes control has to be the kind of coach who is willing to adapt his system to what he has in the cupboard...too many coaches try to force players with their own unique talents into a pre-existing and rigid system that doesn't fit...and that usually doesn't work! Successful coaches adapt their system to the talent they have available, that is how you win.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 28, 2005, 09:41:54 PM
Quote from: MOJO on September 27, 2005, 10:06:27 PM
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Bomber,
You mentioned that Framingham State was accepting students with 800 SAT scores and C averages.  Do the bulk of their future alumni aspire to be Walmart associates?  Not many future attorneys or physicians in this group.

actually, if you have a B-/C+ average in highschool with a 920 SAT you can get into Framingham thats all I was saying, they have a formula.  If you have a C average you need a 1120 or something like that.
Title: Gametime... almost...
Post by: footballfan2005 on September 29, 2005, 10:52:18 AM
Endicott over U-MASS D.         31-7  no surprise in this one
Curry over MIT                        56-10   time for all the freshman to play
Mass-Mari over Fram. State    28-21
Maine Mari over Nichols          31-14
Salva over Western New        21-10
**BSC over Fitchburg**         14-10  Game of the Week
Worcester S. over Westfield   35-14  Forced to catch up & no passing game

Friday night game to catch Worcester and Westfield...
Saturday a must see showdown w/ BSC & Fitchbrug
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 29, 2005, 05:42:09 PM
Westfield 21 @ WSC 18 (Close one but Westfield will want this one after letting last week's game slide by)

MIT 7 @ Curry 48 (No Brainer)

MA Martime 21 @ Framingham 24 (Framinham gets win 2 for the season and Sullivan keeps his job and drive Sullymustgo over the edge).

Nichols 10 @ ME Maritime 35  (ME Maritime is battling for Bogan division respect and with the "W" stays at top while Nichols remains near the bottom of Boyd)

EC 24 @ UMD 10 ( don't look for any OT this year)

Salve 21 @ WNEC 24  (WNEC has had too many close losses and is bound to get one sooner or later)

BSC 10 @ Fitchburg 7  ( I think the BSC defense is just a little too tough for FSC. This should be a great game and will likely decide the Bogan and NEFC championship)

Some really good games this week.





Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 29, 2005, 06:38:34 PM
Framingham better win this week. they're playing a very poor Mass Maritime team who lost to an even worse MIT squad. And 63Center I route for Framingham every week, I've stated in a couple of my posts that I would give anything for them to succeed. I would never route for them to lose.

Framingham 17 Mass Maritime 7
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 29, 2005, 06:55:24 PM
SullyMustGo, I never expected you to root against the Rams.  I figure that you bleed black & gold.  I hope your Rams win as well, I think the players deserve to enjoy a win every once in a while and if they can get this one and one or two more that will make a great season for the few remaining Seniors to remember. It will do little to further your cause to get rid of Sullivan, though.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Connor99 on September 29, 2005, 07:58:26 PM
Hey br707wn are you by chance Jay Brown. I actually was on your team in 2000, its Havlik. I totally agree with you on the FSC part of it. We really did have a good core group. We had a good qb in Luke, good wide receiver in Abe, and two good defenders in Alex and Steve. Our record could have and should have been better. There were three games we were in we could have won. We just didn't have enough talent. The coaches didn't have enough time to coach us. It comes down to not having a full time coach and the school doesn't want to hire one. I remember after strachan left they let the players decide who to hire so it was the 01 team that got Sullivan hired. They actually had a guy come from Florida to interview. Secondly, who wants to play for a school that thinks you should be in your dorm room studying 24/7. They don't know the importance of having sports and how it can help you. I say they need to shut down the fb program if they don't want to hire a full time coach and have better facilitiies. Lastly, there's no football feel to it, no tailgating, not many people go to the game. It's hard to get up for a game when you play at a field that is terrible. I know its d3 but its still a sport and it should still be looked as being important. I knew the program was a joke when they had the female President do a talk at halftime. The really had to rely solely on talent and thats tough to do with the parts they have.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 29, 2005, 08:35:48 PM
Yea 63center i know what you mean. I want Framingham to win but in a way for the better of the program i want them to lose so they can finally get a new coach who can turn things around.  Havlick you have a decent point about Framingham needing a full time coach which would definitly help, but not many NEFC coaches are full time. Also I played for Sully when I was there and I'll give him one thing, he is definitly dedicated to the team. He puts alot of hours in, almost has much as a full time coach, which tells you even if he was full time they would have the same results. Sully is dedicated but he just doesn't know how to win and make his players better.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 29, 2005, 08:38:57 PM
O and another thing about Coach Strachen wanting the players to help pick the new coach. That would have been great, Sully never would have been hired. But remember good ole captain AJ, he told the AD to hire the coach on his own because he could doit better than the players. I always was pissed at AJ for that. So to answer that part, the payers didn't have a word in the hiring and yadi yadi yada Sully was hired. The saddest day in Fram football history.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: br7o7wn on September 29, 2005, 09:32:17 PM
Let me share a story with you boys...does anyone know the story of how Coach Strachan actually got his Head Coaching job at FSC?? Now, remember this was I think 1 or 2 years before I got there...so some of the details I was fed may be off a little...but the story goes like this: The head coach at the time(don't remember his name) was not doing very well and he had some talent and numbers. They were fresh off some strong defensive rankings and had one of the best WR's in New England D3 history (Patten) had just graduated. So expectations were high. Well this coach was definately under-achieving and his approval rating among the players was zero!!! So, the players got together, had a team meeting and decided that they were going to "overthrow" the head coach!!! Strachan was an assistant, had good credentials, and was a player-favorite...so they decided they would give the head coach an ultimatum- quit his job and leave the team, or they would not play!! They decided they would try to get Strachan elevated to HC. I guess Strachan caught wind, and simply said that he couldn't take part out of respect. Well, the meeting happened...I am sure the coach was absolutely mortified, but he left, and the Strach became HC!! Crazy sh*t huh?? But, it worked...maybe history should repeat itself...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MOJO on September 29, 2005, 10:37:54 PM
Johnny Utah,
Thanks for the academic update on Fram.  Not great, but not as bad as I perceived from other posts.

Sullymustgo,
I admire your persistence to get "coach sullivan" axed.  Maybe a more productive approach, is to get the alumni behind you to push the issue to the forefront.  Keep the faith.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on September 30, 2005, 09:27:58 AM
Brownie, You were a few years before me there and that overthrowing of the old coach sounds like something that should happen now.  There is no one on the current team that likes Sully, they all talk sh** about him every second of the day behind his back, which everyone knows cannot happen on a football team.  I wish all the players would get together like that, but in order to do that they need someone to stand up and be a leader..........On another note Coach Strachen was a great guy and a great coach, can't even compare him to Sully. Funny thing is Sully use to always talk trash about him his first year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: DBackMc03 on September 30, 2005, 06:18:39 PM
This is my first post here.  I wanted to wait until I was done with ball before I started posting.   So now I'm done with college and football, I figure what better time to post than on a topic of Coach Sully.  I played under him my soph. & jr year in high school back in '96, and '97.  Worst football experience ever.  Two lost years of football.  Especially in '97.  I would have switched H.S. my senior year if he came back. We went 5-5, and then 1-9. Personally, off the field the field, he was a good guy, but as a coach, I despised him.  And 32 out 33 kids felt the same way except one.  That one is now the O-Cordinater with him.  He didnt respect the players and the players didnt respect him.  He didnt know how to motivate, all he knew how to do was discipline and belittle everyone.  Practice can be a drag anyway, but he made it worse.   He made athletes hate the game of football.  I thought maybe he just wasnt a good h.s. coach based on his technique and philosophies, but then seeing his records that followed him I realize he just isnt a good football coach.  I like the guy off the field, but on it, no way.  I was pumped the past two seasons beat up on FSU (no disrespect to the players) and have a couple of INT's against him.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on September 30, 2005, 11:49:48 PM
Quote from: 63Center on September 29, 2005, 05:42:09 PM
Westfield 21 @ WSC 18 (Close one but Westfield will want this one after letting last week's game slide by)

Yea, You blew that prediction... apparently you haven't been watching the WSC offense in the past few weeks... the difference in tonight's win was: both the OFFENSE & DEFENSE played a complete 4 quarters as they SMOKED westfield state 47-7.

Like I said earlier this week... WSC can put up serious points quick... it took Westfield State completely out of their game...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 01, 2005, 08:25:37 AM
Quote from: footballfan2005 on September 30, 2005, 11:49:48 PM
Quote from: 63Center on September 29, 2005, 05:42:09 PM
Westfield 21 @ WSC 18 (Close one but Westfield will want this one after letting last week's game slide by)

Yea, You blew that prediction... apparently you haven't been watching the WSC offense in the past few weeks... the difference in tonight's win was: both the OFFENSE & DEFENSE played a complete 4 quarters as they SMOKED westfield state 47-7.

Like I said earlier this week... WSC can put up serious points quick... it took Westfield State completely out of their game...

Footballfan2005, Yep, I really missed that prediction.  Congrats to WSC for a hell of a game.  I guess I thought Westfield was better based on their 3OT with Fitchburg.  I would say that these teams need to bring it every week and forget about the week before.  The way everyone knocks each other off in the Bogan, it could be an interesting challenge for 1st.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 01, 2005, 09:10:05 AM
63 Center,

Worcester State should give Bridgewater & Fitchburg a run for thier money... however, from viewing the stats from this year to date I think BSC will be their best matchup b/c they can also put up points. 

Should be an interesting fight for the 2005 Bogan title... any scouting reports on Maine Maritime... they look to have a solid team.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 01, 2005, 12:12:32 PM
DBack, you hit the nail on the head there. Sully made me not care about losing a football game. After a loss under him I just didn't care. It was prety sad. I took intermural losses harder than an FSC loss. He takes the passion for the game right out of his players. That O-coordinator you were talking about is absolutly herendous by the way. No clue how to call plays.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 01, 2005, 04:34:29 PM
Congrats to Framingham State on their come from being win today
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jeff on October 01, 2005, 09:26:00 PM
I'm sorry, but beating MIT and Mass Maritime doesn't mean FSC is "good" it just means that there are worse teams out there...

dont tell me a 2-2 record is a good thing, looking at who they beat for their two wins and how they lost by a combined 100+ to NADA...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 01, 2005, 10:31:51 PM
theres something fishy going on in this board.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: br7o7wn on October 01, 2005, 11:24:31 PM
In response to Jeff's posting...come on buddy!!! Where did you read anyone saying Framingham is a good team??? The only thing written on here is how BAD they are!!! How about letting them celebrate a nice come-from-behind Homecoming victory and stop hatin!!!! And JohnnyUtah...what is fishy??
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 02, 2005, 12:33:00 AM
Yes I know the teams they have beatin are pathetic. If they didn't beat those teams Sully should just quit and never show his face again at Fram. Now if they beat a decent team in their remaining games I'll go to Sully and shake his hand but it's not gonna happen. They won't come within 20 points of another opponent.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Central-st on October 02, 2005, 01:20:40 AM
Allrighty, time to jump into this Framingham scrum....

before i begin, congrats to FSC on their win today. I was there and have to say, it was great to get excited about your former team coming behind in a great win. Great job guys, enjoy it.

Im deffenitly gonna say that the FSC talk has completely inudated this board. I think its pretty comical that one of the worst teams in the league has received so much board time. I played for sully at FSC for 2 years, and i agree with the consensus that he sucks................no need for any other description, he just plain and simply sucks the big one.

HOWEVER....... SMG, i completely disagree with you throwing AJ under the bus. If you checked your facts, you would have known that when FSC was hiring. ONLY TWO COACHES APPLIED FOR LEGITAMENT CONSIDERATION, one being the big A hole himself, and the other being a Providence Womens football team coach. THATS IT. So there was really no consideration to be had, and there was nothing AJ or anyone else could have done. You can't blame anyone for not wanting to get involved with a COMPLETE SCREW UP Assit. athletic director such as C Williams and her BS. If i was asked to get involved in the selection process, i would have said no from the get go. With C Williams running the show, they could have had the entire football team involved in the coach review process and it wouldn't have made a difference because C Williams would have done as she wanted, no matter what. AJ stayed out of the bulls**t, AMEN. SMG, Don't go throwing other team members names out on the boards and placing them in the mix with people like sully. We where all in h*ll together on that team, it was us vs him.

Unfortunately, the problem starts at the top with the adminstration and assit director. The assit director has been spoken to, won't listen, and doesn't care. The only thing anyone can do is just keep speaking up in hopes that someone will listen.

To sum it up, sully doesn't listen to his players,is completely psychotic, he treats them like crap, calls them liers, is completely psychotic, treats his players like their 2, is completely psychotic, only concerned with his players as bodies on the field , is more concerned with his stupid rituals than with playing the game, and is completely psychotic.

Hes nutz, plain and simple.


In closing.... GO RAMAS!!!!!



p.s. a quick story for all to enjoy about Assit AD C Williams. While I was at FSC, C Williams went and made friends with one of the Volleyball girls and got all of the football player AIM names from her buddy list. She then proceeded to keep track of all the doings of the football players, things like parties and such. She would find out where parties where, and call campus police and have them dispatched to the party. SPECIFICALLY LOOKING FOR Football players. THEN, she was get in touch with sully, and let him know about the party and the names of those involved. NOW KEEP IN MIND, these parties where after games, and OFF CAMPUS. Still in sullys psychotiness, he would suspend guys and make guys run for simply having a party.





Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Connor99 on October 02, 2005, 02:51:55 PM
The bad thing about it is that there have been a lot of great talent that wasn't mixed together right. Fold the program and fold it now.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 02, 2005, 04:17:26 PM
I wonder what would happen with Sully and the Asst. AD if the alumni rebelled.  Based on the posting I have read there must be at least 100 FSC alums that should be able to get a petition circulated to have one or both fired.  Usually schools don't like it when the alumni turn on them.  Why don't one of you start upo a petition to have Sully removed or the Asst. AD?  Or do you just not care that much.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: br7o7wn on October 02, 2005, 05:09:25 PM
I am all for an alumni rebellion!! If I wasn't living in Florida I would certainly be more involved...in fact I would make a bid to coach myself!!! But the unfortunate thing about Framingham State College is that the administration has no interest in turning this program around. In fact I would be willing to bet that if the coach was thrown out, that the administration would move to eliminate the football program entirely. Here is just a tiny little clue of how things are at FSC...when you go to the official FSC website and click into the athletics page they have a little slide show where pictures flash of athletes from all the teams...EXCEPT football!!!! And I'm not talking in-season sports, I'm talking everything but football, which is in-season!!!! The hard part is that there are so many FSC Alumni that don't want a football team, that those of us who are former footballers are in the minority. It is my suspicion that the administration is actually trying to run the program into the ground!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Connor99 on October 02, 2005, 06:31:22 PM
One of the things that is the most mind boggling is that each and every week they give up so many yards rushing. I was looking at a stat from one of their games and they gave up 446 yards on 62 carries, are you kidding me. Consistently each and every year, even when I played they give up so many yards rushing and its mind boggling. Those numbers are embarrassing.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 02, 2005, 07:01:13 PM
Isn't that a product of the fact that Framingham is behind all the time and opponents are trying to run out the clock?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: br7o7wn on October 02, 2005, 09:01:15 PM
I think that being behind justifies the number of carries, but not the amount of yardage allowed. I played on a VERY bad high school team that was always behind too. However, we probably allowed less than 5 yards per carry. Usually when teams are behind and the opponent is grinding it out on the ground, you would load up the box and stop the run...it's not like the other team is gonna then start airing it out, they wanna end the game!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 02, 2005, 09:02:23 PM
whats the pay like for the FSC head coach and what else does he have to do?

And what are the rituals that Sully does?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Connor99 on October 03, 2005, 02:44:54 PM
That doesn't make sense though, I always thought you try to establish a running game win or lose. An offensive coordiantor has a game plan. And looking at films they realize they can run all over the front four of fram defense. I mean even in FSC wins the other teams runs all over them. I don't know wny they don't put eight in the box and stop the run. Yeah I know that creates single coverage on the outside but I would rather have the quarterback beat them than anything else.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on October 03, 2005, 03:19:35 PM
All u past Framingham State alumni, give it a rest. You are all over this coach sullivan and this web site should be about positive imput about the NEFC conference. Key games this week: Me maritime @BSC and endicott vs. Fitchburgh. I was surprised at the outcome of Fitchburgh vs. BSC.  Also Curry will walk through their conference no comp. other than maybe Endicott. Running backs will be featured in Me Maritime vs. BSC. Me. will have to use ball control to win this one..... Bsc may be able to score to many pts. REMEMBER I stated 3 weeks ago that no one would go undefeated in Bogan Div. although Fitchburgh one a big one last week..........
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 03, 2005, 06:34:35 PM
After looking at the NEFC weekly Offensive and Defensive Players of the week and the Honorable mentions, I have come to the conclusion that there should be a weekly Offensive Lineman award.  The only guys ever listed on the weekly award are QBs and Running Backs.  How would any of them get over 100 yards/game without the linemen in front of them. Yet the linemen get nothing.  Occasionally a defensive lineman will get recogniztion for some tackling. but nothing for the O line.  I think each person posting here should nominate their O-lineman of the week each Sun. or Monday.  At least it would take our minds of Sully and why he must go.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on October 03, 2005, 06:56:10 PM
I agree that the offensive lineman as well as D line do not get recognized. I saw a very good Oline player from Worcester state this year.and an awsome Dline man from BSC. I have seen some outstanding LB's from Westfield and Fitchburgh..
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rrobb1055 on October 03, 2005, 08:36:14 PM
Quote from: waggle09 on October 03, 2005, 03:19:35 PM
All u past Framingham State alumni, give it a rest. You are all over this coach sullivan and this web site should be about positive imput about the NEFC conference. Key games this week: Me maritime @BSC and endicott vs. Fitchburgh. I was surprised at the outcome of Fitchburgh vs. BSC.  Also Curry will walk through their conference no comp. other than maybe Endicott. Running backs will be featured in Me Maritime vs. BSC. Me. will have to use ball control to win this one..... Bsc may be able to score to many pts. REMEMBER I stated 3 weeks ago that no one would go undefeated in Bogan Div. although Fitchburgh one a big one last week..........

You were suprised by the Fitchburg beating BSC???  I have seen Westfield, BSC and Fitchburg play.  I saw Fitchburg play Curry and thought they are going to win the whole thing.  I saw Fitchburg play Westfield and thought they will win the whole.  I saw BSC play Framingham and thought Fitchburg is going to win the whole thing.  I saw Westfield play Worcester State and thought Fitchburg is going to win the whole thing.  The thing is Fitchburg isn't even at full strength.  I talked to a friend of mine who plays at BSC.  He said that the defense beat them up.  Westfield went through the same thing.. The defense beat them up and you could tell at the Worcester game that the owls weren't the same team that played Fitchburg.  I also heard that Fitchburg isn't even at full strength.  They have some key players hurt.  They should be playing this week...  Maine Maritime has a difficult game this weekend.  Especially since BSC is wounded from all the trash talking they did with Fitchburg.  Then Fitchburg has to pick up the pieces of Maine Maritime.  Endicott could beat Curry... Curry is having some growing pains.  This week I hope to catch WNEC and MIT or Curry and Endicott.  All depends  where my ride can take me.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 03, 2005, 09:14:39 PM
63center,

No reason a school can't be a little creative and nominate its offensive line for the conference honor roll. Pretty sure Fitchburg State got its O-line honored that way a couple years ago.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: br7o7wn on October 03, 2005, 09:43:57 PM
I am all for a "lineman of the week" award!!! Offensive lineman never get the recognition they deserve, and most DLinemen go unnoticed as well. How many times does a DT fight through double and triple teams only to post maybe 3 or 4 tackles and nobody gives him so much as a pat on the back?? Let's get a Lineman of the Week!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 03, 2005, 10:28:19 PM
I can vouch for D-linemen getting underrecognized on conference honor rolls. For a long time we wouldn't get enough nominations for Team of the Week on D-line (it's gotten better since I emphasized it to SIDs), and when that happens I go through conference players of the week to get extra nominations. Those awards almost always go to linebackers with tons of tackles or d-backs with a couple picks.

That's a fundamental reason why we do the Team of the Week (http://www.d3football.com/tow/) the way we do, to recognize all positions, not just the ones with gaudy stats. But still, we get 10-12 quarterback nominations for one spot and 5-6 defensive line nominations for 3-4 spots.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RunNShoot on October 04, 2005, 10:51:22 AM
the fitchburg/bsc score this week was a suprise.  I though bsc would have won that game.  I also heard Kavey was pretty banged up.

To the Framingham situation,
I think that team has a young group of good players and is building.  They do have 2 wins this year, and a win is a win is a win.  As long as their young nucleus stays together they'll only get better.  Lots of potential there.

I don't know what is up with Westfield either.  I thought they had a great D and poor offense until the Worcester game.

And could ME Maritime be the sleeper team of the year?

Just some topics for discussion, trying to add some good topics to the board.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bearyear on October 04, 2005, 12:08:29 PM
crazy man if you followed the bsc vs fitchburg game you would know that early in the game bsc lost two crucial players in the first quarter. one of them being a dlinemen who had 7 solo tackles in the time he played alone. also you would have noticed that in the 4 th the bears defense shutdown the falcons offense on every occasion followed by the bears offense putting up 2 tds.after a huge int by the bears, they were only down by 7 with about 5 min to go in the game... all of a sudden the score board shuts off...what is that???? the refs did a horrible job in this game giving bsc nothing but the short end of the stick... this game should be under protest...as for trash talking...fitchburg has the least sportsmanship in the league.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on October 04, 2005, 12:46:33 PM
My friend has a brother that plays for BSC, and he said that Fitchburg was dirty, but thats what you expect in a tough game.  But the refs were bad, at least that was his opinion. 
I am anxious to see how the game with Maine goes, I think the winner of that will still get the nod for the title game, FSC is bound to get a loss.
GO GULLS, wish there was football there when I was there.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctforce on October 04, 2005, 01:24:12 PM
OK Guys!!  I've been holding out on commenting for a long time but just couldn't help getting involved

First, on the Sully topic.  I think we all know the guy does not have the right personality/coaching demenor to make FSC successful. My son visited here when he decided to transfer from 1AA an in a mater of minutes he and I came to the conclusion this guy and his assistant coach are out to lunch.  I have sympathy for those guys that were there when he came in as that is not how you want your college career to end.  But, for those guys that have joined the program since he has been there, you get what ask for!  So, basically for the last two weeks, we all agree on this guy so lets move this board on to bigger and better things.

Second, in regards to the post that you have to play better schools to get better.  As a coach I agree whole heartedly, HOWEVER, you have to have some atheletes that can compete at that level to make it worth while.  If you don't have the caliber of athletes you will not get any return out of playing better schools.  Now, if you have the talent, yes you should.  I know more of more of the NEFC schools are starting to do it as Endicaott has and  I know Fitchburg has played /scrimmaged Western Connecticut, and I'm sure there are others doing it.  My point being is that some of you say this conference sucks and will now get any better until they play outside, but you need athletes.  Besides that, I think there is a lot of good DIII football happening in the NEFC.

Third, now that I'm on atheletes, there are a lot of good ones in this conference.  How do you think Endicott got good so quick?  Along with decent coaching they had some players transfer in rather than trying to build soley from high school recruits.  Look how many transfers are on the Fitchburg team as Junior and Seniors this year and you can see why they are good.  Think back to past division and NEFC champions and look how many transfers were key in that team winning.  Maybe the league is a little diluted because of so many teams, but there a lot of good athletes in this conference playing great football.  Also, it is much easier for a non-state school to get athletes in to make their program more competitive.  It is easier for an Endicott or Curry to "find" money/grants/ whatever to bring the players into their program.  I know some state schools have some waivers to get players in, but, to my knowledge, these are very limited.  If some of you out there disagree with me on this, you need to open your eyes because it is happening all the time.  I'm not making excuses for the State schools as I think they do a darn good job within the limitations they have.

Fourth, I totally agree that offensive and defensive lineman need more credit!!!  If it wasn't for your interior D-lineman occupyiny the O-line so the linbackers can run free, they would not have the games they do.  I think the two big guys on the interior at Fitchburg do a great job of this as yardage up the middle is scarce and the middle backer has twice been defensive player of the week.  But yet, they get little credit!! I cite Fitchburg becuase what did the D-line do to that tremendous running back that BSC has???  27 carries for 82 yards if I do remember correctly.  Also, a runner will go nowhere without a good 'O' line.  How about the two backs from Fitchburg each posting up a 100 yards?  Yea, some was on there own but the O-line deserves credit.

OK, I think I'm down to the last topic.  When the heck are all you critics out there going to give Fitchburg the respect they deserve!!!!  Last year everbody said 'it was a fluke'.  Well, guess what, they stepped up on opening day and beat Curry!!.  Then they had a huge gut-check against Westfield when the 'O' could not get out of there own way, and won,  And now, they knock off the team everyone has picked as NEFC champions.  BSC didn't play anybody coming into this game and got there butts kicked.  I will give them credit that they put on a good 4th quarter surge, but Fitchburg made some mistakes on offense and got a couple of stupid penalties.  But, when they had to step up and stop them what happened??  Maybe the best lockdown corner in the NEFC intercepted the ball sealing the win.  I know the BSC lost some players during the game, but some of those players, along with others were cramping up and sucking wind already in the second quarter.  Many BSC players had their hands on their thighs sucking wind.  When your fatigued is when you are most prone to injury.  What about the two long scoring drives opening up the second half that Fitchburg put togehter to basically ice this game??  Give the entire offense the credit they deserve here!!!  I cannot deny that some of the Fitchburg players talk some trash and get some cheap penalties during they game.  I for one am not in favor of it.  However, I see it going on with other teams also, so, I don't feel one team is more or less guilty than the other.  Depending on the hype of the game, they all do it.  As an early post said, they are not completele at full strength and they are knocking off good teams.  This Fitchburg team has a good offense and a great defense that I feel will lead them to being NEFC champions!!

OK folks, if this post doesn't get you all talking nothing will.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctforce on October 04, 2005, 01:34:53 PM
Hey GULLGRAD,

I know a player from Fitchburg who injuried his knee due to a BSC player trying to take his legs out while he was tackling/holding up the ball carrier.  Last I knew this was illegeal and kind of dirty.  As I said in my previous post, every team in this conference does 'dirty things' regadless of who they are.  Some are just brought to the forefront more than others based on what school it is.  Did you see this game?  The 'dirty play' of the Fitchburg or BSC players had no bearing on this game.  BSC was handed their butts and needs to acknowledge that.  I think Maine mar. will beat them and Fitchburg will have to beat maine and then Worcester at the end of the season to capture the title.  And I know they will!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3FAN05 on October 04, 2005, 03:09:40 PM
As someone who has watched the Endicott program develop I would disagree that the Gulls have built their program with transfers.

While their roster does feature a few transfers the foundation of their players and starters came to Endiocott as first-time-freshmen.

I think only one starter on either side of the ball is a transfer.

just an observation...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 04, 2005, 07:16:07 PM
A few comments on ctforce's diatribe.

First,  not only do you need to have good athletes but they must be willing to work at being good athletes and good students.  I have seen a number of kids that quit because they either didn't want to work hard enough to be make the starting squad, or they thought they were still in high school and should have been given the starting position because they were the high school star.  There are also those that find out that you actually have to go to classes and make the grades and again aren't willing to sacrafice to do that.   Building a good program by getting good athletes requires a coach that is willing to turn down those that he feels won't fit in his program.

Secondly, I agree with D3Fan05, Endicott has very few transfers.  They built the program by recruiting platers that are willing to work at it like I said above.  They have a coach and a philosphy that requires a strong work ethic and if you don't lie it you can leave.

Third, if you were to go back to my first or second post on this site you would see that I picked Fitchburg to win the Bogan division.  So I do give them the respsct they deserve.  I think each week they are going out there and proving they are the team to beat in the NEFC.

Thanks for starting up some new commentary.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rrobb1055 on October 04, 2005, 07:28:54 PM
Quote from: bearyear on October 04, 2005, 12:08:29 PM
crazy man if you followed the bsc vs fitchburg game you would know that early in the game bsc lost two crucial players in the first quarter. one of them being a dlinemen who had 7 solo tackles in the time he played alone. also you would have noticed that in the 4 th the bears defense shutdown the falcons offense on every occasion followed by the bears offense putting up 2 tds.after a huge int by the bears, they were only down by 7 with about 5 min to go in the game... all of a sudden the score board shuts off...what is that???? the refs did a horrible job in this game giving bsc nothing but the short end of the stick... this game should be under protest...as for trash talking...fitchburg has the least sportsmanship in the league.

Bearyear - Idiot - If you could read but I understand about the education thing..  I never said I saw the Fitchburg/BSC game.  I saw Fitchburg play Westfield and Curry.  I did talk to a friend of mine at BSC.  He wasn't making excuses.  He said that BSC wasn't not ready to play Fitchburg.  He said that they got beat up and they were tired.  He also said that there was some flaky things happened during the game.  But that is part of the game.  If your good you overcome them and move on.  I did hear that BSC had a couple of opportunities but couldn't do anything because all of a sudden the defense was all over them.  He also told me he didn't like the way BSC was blocking below the waist. (illegally) but that's part of the game too.  I thought that the 2 games I saw Fitchburg play that they were a class act.  They showed up to do business and go home.  I also know that their booster club throws a BIG tailgate after the game for the players even at away games.  How many of your parents actually stick around to see you get on the bus to go home??? I guess that you need to take a reading class and get some class.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 04, 2005, 09:01:35 PM
As everyone can see there is merit to what I've been saying by all the responses of past players. But nothing is gonna get done by us pointing how bad he is out to eachother, things need to be taken to the administration. How to do that I don't know.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 04, 2005, 09:16:54 PM
sullymustgo do you have the lowest kharma on d3football.com????
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fram_ram on October 04, 2005, 09:58:22 PM
Hey guys there 2-2, have been working hard, finally have a solid core of more then 22 guys and are very young.  lets give them some support and realize that even though you x-players are angry and bitter with Sully, bury it and show the present players some support...

GO RAMS!!!  and BEAT WORCESTER ST.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 04, 2005, 10:17:38 PM
I have all the support in the world for you players. Lets get real here. That MIT team and Mass Maritime were the weakest they've been in over 5 years. If you guys win a 3rd game my hats off to you and Sully deserves one more year. If you go 2-7 he should not be hired back. Good Luck against Worcestor.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fram_ram on October 04, 2005, 11:00:55 PM
it is rumored that sully got a two year extention and as a current player, i am happy that he will be here!!!!!  he told you guys when he got here it was going to be a 4-7 year transition and that is exactly what is going on here.  its now his 4th year and we have won two games and look as if we are going to win a couple more.  if you go to the games then you will see that the team is stronger, faster, and performing more like a cohesive unit, something it hasn't looked like the past couple of years.  now im sorry you didnt have the chance to feel the type of success that this years team is now feeling but dont for one minute think you can take any of that feeling away from these guys.  they worked hard for this and we will show all of you former alum and others that dont believe in us that this team is for real!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 04, 2005, 11:25:56 PM
I want you guys to succeed but it is not happening under Sully. You guys won 2 games, but you also got absolutely destroyed in the other two games. Who are the other possible games for you guys to win. No disrespect but you have nothing but tough games left. Your two cupcakes are over and done with.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 05, 2005, 07:17:34 AM
In regards to Fram_Ram comments, I saw Framingham play EC this year and there appeared to be a lot more players playing for the Rams this year and they appears to play better.  However I have also seen some of the other teams and have to agree with SullyMustGo, that the easy games are over and I can't see the Rams winning any more games this season.  It is great to hear some positive comments out of the current players and I wish you success.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 05, 2005, 09:35:29 AM
Don't let those comments by fram_ram fool you 63center, they're the same Framigham players that have been cursing Sully out the past 2-3 years. On another note like i mentioned in a post a while back, i mentioned that Framingham will probably go 2-7 this year and the team will think its a big success. That I think is the sad thing about Sully and that program. I dont care what team you play for, a 2-7 team is unacceptable. You can't settle for 2-7. Framingham needs to strive for a 5-4 season to gain respect around the league. 2-7 gets them no where. Once they hit that .500 mark then their gaol should be the NEFC championship. Current players and former players of Framingham please stop embarrassing ourselves by thinking a 2-3 win season is good, other teams laugh at that.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 05, 2005, 06:25:41 PM
SullyMustGo, at least the Rams can take some consolation in the Quality of Wins rankings listed on D3football.com.  The Rams are listed at 125 while some of the other NEFC are listed much lower:  Westfield 140, WNEC 155, MIT 178, Nichols 187 , UMD 207, and MIT 208.  Of course to show how meaningful these numbers are, Trinity (CT) has a 0 score even tough they are one of the top teams in the East.  Go Figure. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 05, 2005, 06:34:31 PM
Trinity has a 0 score because they dont play nonleague opponents and cannot be rated and I believe Pat C. stated once that they dont even bother ranking them because of that.

And a 4-7 year plan? I dont know if I can buy that one unless the administration promised the coaches full time jobs in the future or something like that.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 05, 2005, 06:38:28 PM
My picks for the week.

Curry 42 @Salve 7  This should be a relatively easy game for Curry

WSC 50 @Framingham 6  Need I say more.

ME Maritime 21 @BSC 18  This could be the game of the week in the NEFC.  I give the nod to ME because I think this could be their year, even though I didn't pick them high in my early season rankings.

FSC 35 @EC 10  EC has to prove themselves against tough competition.  They struggled last week against UMD which is having a bad year.  The FSC defense by all accounts is extremely tough.  EC has a good running game and a good defense, but I think that FSC is still the better team and has shown it with some of their quality wins.

UMD 21 @ Nichols 10  This is the week that UMD gets one in the "W" column.  They are starting to gel as a young team and have played some pretty tough teams so far in Merrimack, Curry, and EC.

Westfield 35 @MA Maritime 6  Westfield needs to get back on the winning track and this should do it.

WNEC 35 @MIT 10  WNEC has a good team, and has lost some close games.  Now that they have a win under their belts they are ready to roll.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 05, 2005, 06:41:11 PM
JohnnyUtah, I know that Trinity has a 0 score because they don't play non-league games.  That's what I'm saying that the Quality of WIns rankings mean little, but if you are a team like Framingham you might be happy to see yourself rated higher than other better teams, at least for a while.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 05, 2005, 06:57:02 PM
yea but you said the numbers are meaningless and then mentioned trinitys 0 score....I think the numbers arent great but they arent meaningless.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 05, 2005, 08:56:31 PM
Since the numbers are used only by the NCAA in the playoff selection process it doesn't seem to make sense to run numbers for the NESCAC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: boobyhasgameyo on October 05, 2005, 09:07:34 PM
Yeah I was just checking out the bored, and I was always curious.... Why doesn't the NESCAC go to the NCAA's, has it always been that way?  Why do they only play teams in their conference?  Hamilton is a 10 minute drive from Utica, they could play a little bit.  Just wondering what the deal is....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 05, 2005, 09:53:53 PM
boobyhasgameyo, wrong board first of all.. but Ill tell you anyway

the nescac wants to be like the Ivy leagues.  The ivy league traditinally does not go to the playoffs and it still has some great football in a traditional sense.

the nescac feels that football within the leagues schools is kind of an elite club and is special in that way.  It has a great tradition with the current setup, and administrators like it that way.

also, they probably dont want too much emphasis on football and competiting for a national championship...75 males on a team is basically 10% of the student body at each school, and they dont want too much emphasis on them.  Thats the way I understand it anyway

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 06, 2005, 12:44:25 AM
I'm gonna take a break and make my picks for the week:

Curry 27 vs. Salve 10 ...Seahawks are overmatched

WSC 35 vs. Framingham 7 ...Sorry guys but your   
          winnings for the season is done. Clock just 
          struck midnight.

ME Maritime 42 vs. BSC 46 ...This is going to be a great game between the
          possible two best teams in the conference. Gotta give BSC the edge
          though.

FSC 24 vs. EC 31  ...Endicott wins in a late 4th quarter TD.

UMD 7 vs. Nichols 6  ...Umass wins in a thriller where I'd rather watch paint dry.

Westfield 40 vs. MA Maritime 0 

WNEC 44 @MIT 7 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on October 06, 2005, 09:19:21 AM
My turn to try some picks:

BSC- 24 Maine- 14: a great game to see, but tough trip for the Mariners.

Curry 34 Salve 31:  I think Salve is a decent team, but Curry is starting to come together

Worc 55 Fram 6: Fram will lead 3 -0 and then get crushed.

UMD 21 Nic 0: How the Bison have fallen

Westfield 41 Mass 0: WSC defense bounces back.

WNEC 31 MIT 0: WNEC is decent, and MIT is not, but coach pulls the starters in the 4th

EC 34 Fitch 24: EC defense is too good for the stagnant FSC O.  EC o is wierd and might mess with the FSC d.

Game to watch, the BSC Maine game, I'll be there, maybe, if the old lady says I can go.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: boobyhasgameyo on October 06, 2005, 10:16:28 AM
Thanks Utah

I realized this was the wrong post after I wrote it, but I was just rolling with it.  Thanks for the info though
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bearyear on October 06, 2005, 01:38:29 PM
crazy man, your name says it all. your crazy.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RunNShoot on October 06, 2005, 10:04:53 PM
sullymustgo

the rams arn't that bad.  they have some potential fire power on offense with some skill guys.  i think they could legit win any game they're in (with the exception of fitchburg).

and i'm gonna say that i think ME Maritime is playing with a lot of confidence.  they're in the drivers seat to win that conference.  look out.

upset special, mass maritime will beat westfield.  the qb for mass will throw at least 2 deep tds and they will win, 14-7.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 06, 2005, 10:16:44 PM
Pats fan, do you have any clue what you are talking about. Framingham got demolished by Bridgewater and Endicott already this season and they still have to play fitchburgh, maine, worcestor wnec and westfirld. So what are you saying about them being in everygame. They will not come within 2 touchdowns in any of those games. You must be another one of those guys that got use to and accept losing. I wanna know when a 2-7 season and "being in games" equals a good season. Ask someone from bridgwater how they would feel if they had a bad season and went 5-5, they would freak out. Framingham wins 2 games and it's like they won the championship. And you say they arn't that bad? I never knew a team that wasn't that bad that got beat 46-0 and 57-0.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on October 07, 2005, 07:16:40 AM
Okay, STOP THE FRAMINGHAM TALK.  Seriously, this has gone on long enough.  Just talk about the entire conference and move on.  If you need to speak of Framingham then make a pick where they get crushed and explain why.  WOW, this is getting a bit redundant.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 07, 2005, 09:39:23 AM
If I didn't talk about Framingham this board would be empty and boring. When another topic comes up I would drop it, but other people keep writing about them too, it's not just me. When someone replys I write back. More than one discussion can go on at once you know.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: DBackMc03 on October 07, 2005, 11:06:10 AM
If there ends a up a 3-way tie in the Bogan, say Fitch, BSC, and Worcester, how does the tie breaker work?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: DBackMc03 on October 07, 2005, 11:08:48 AM
I'm not saying thats going to happen, but there is a small possibility that it could, and I just want to know how a 3-way tie breaker works.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2005, 11:27:43 AM
Quote from: SullyMustGo on October 07, 2005, 09:39:23 AM
If I didn't talk about Framingham this board would be empty and boring.

You keep claiming that but it's just not true. There is plenty of other NEFC talk on here -- more than any previous season.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 07, 2005, 09:51:46 PM
To answer the three way tie question. I really have no idea, but if I had to guess I would say the first option is head to head. If thats split between the three teams then it probably goes right to a coin toss.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2005, 10:34:21 PM
I believe the NEFC uses the crossover games as a tiebreaker.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 07, 2005, 11:00:50 PM
Pat,

Please explain the crossover? 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2005, 11:28:04 PM
Each NEFC team plays the six teams in its own division plus two crossover games against the other division. Those aren't counted in the regular season standings but are used as a tiebreaker.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 08, 2005, 12:44:55 AM
That's not really a fair way to doit. Some teams play the weaker teams in their crossover. I highly doubt that they do it that way. Go to www.newenglandfootballconference.com, there they have some names and numbers. If you want to know I'm sure they'll be glad to take your call and answer that question.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 08, 2005, 01:11:59 AM
SNG,

I already have contacted people within the NEFC and that was their answer. I do not make up information and post it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 08, 2005, 01:33:36 AM
In that case, that is the worst tie breaker I have ever heard. That's rediculous and the most unfair way to resolve the issue. Pat I know you'd hate to doit, but you have to agree with me on this.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 08, 2005, 01:38:23 AM
In the event of a three-way tie where all three split head to head and beat everyone else in the division, what would you have them do?

Since the NEFC is in a relatively unique position of having extra games against conference members to consider in tiebreaking scenarios, it's a natural to use them.

I can't imagine you would think a coin flip is better than determining a champion with something -- anything -- that happens on the field. Give me a break.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 08, 2005, 08:29:13 AM
yea it would only be slightly unfair if the crossover opponents were noncommon opponents between the three tied teams....and that would be very rare.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 08, 2005, 10:57:09 AM
As to the "crossover,"  I agree it's a bad way to decide things.  But each team control's their own future, if you have to depend on others it's never a good thing.

GAMETIME!!!

Curry 21 vs. Salve 17   

>>>>>Sloppy conditions might even the playing field

WSC 56 vs. Framingham 17
>>>>>WSC mixes it up being run heavy in the ran.. they've got 2 tailbacks that can do some damage.  I feel Framingham w. have their chances do to the ran... there will be some turnovers.

ME Maritime 28 vs. BSC 14
>>>>> Can some one say ball control... I think Maine will pound the ball and control the speed of the game.

FSC 21 vs. EC 38
>>>>> This is where EC early schedule will play off... FSC will be nothing like playing RPI.  They should win in a close game. 

UMD 21 vs. Nichols 3
>>>>> UMD gets on the board.

Westfield vs MA Maritime & WNEC vs MIT   = BLOWOUT and who CARES!!!!

If you don't know the answer to the previous 2 matchups then get off the board

 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 08, 2005, 10:59:06 AM
Yup,

Being hungover doesn't help

ran... rain... DAMN KEYBOARDS

TIME TO TAILGATE
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 08, 2005, 11:51:37 AM
Pat, The way you wrote it in your first post it sounded like the first tiebreaker was the crossover games. So I was right when I said the first criteria was head to head. It's ok Pat you can give me credit when deserved. I don't think a coin flip is fair as ado i think the crossover is either. It should go to points against common opponents.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 08, 2005, 01:13:19 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2005, 10:34:21 PM
I believe the NEFC uses the crossover games as a tiebreaker.

As A tiebreaker, not THE tiebreaker.

I can't be held responsible if you can't read.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 08, 2005, 01:40:16 PM
The question asked by whoever it was, was what is the tiebreaker for a 3 way tie. You answered by saying a tie breaker was crossover games. You didn't answer the question then. I was just saying you were confusing. The first tiebreaker is head to head then crossover games. Why wouldn't you have just said that?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 08, 2005, 02:28:11 PM
Because I actually READ your post and you already established head-to-head as a tiebreaker.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AptosDad on October 08, 2005, 03:35:10 PM
Just a point of curiosity, but is -26 the lowest a poster's karma can go?
2nd question: Are the MIT players that severely outmatched athletically, or is there something lacking in the coaching?  I noticed from their roster of 44, it breaks down to 1 grad student, 9 seniors, 5 juniors, 12 sophs and 17 frosh.  That suggests that many of the players give up the game after their first year or two of experience.  Is there any hope for these guys as a football team?  Accepting that some percentage of young players will quit following a year or two of disappointment makes me wonder if the program wouldn't benefit from someone like SMG, only Smith instead of Sully. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 08, 2005, 03:55:40 PM
sullymustgo, when people ask questions about 3 way tiebreakers, you assume that person knows that head to head is the first possible tiebreaker as it is in basically 100% of the cases, so you usually dont mention it in the explination.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 08, 2005, 04:00:23 PM
aptosdad, no as you can probably see on this board some have kharma lower than -26.

and mit does lose a lot of players as their carrers go on, but I would say their weaknesses are in the oline and dline.  Ive seen a few mit games over the years and would say their qbs and recievers have been pretty atlhetic and they are well coached.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 08, 2005, 05:10:42 PM
BSC 33 vs. ME Maritime 24

Well Maine had 2 backs for over 100 yards each... but I guess is wasn't raining to much in Bridgewater b/c  Adam C. threw for 200+ and 3tds.  Nice win for BSC should make the rest of the season interesting... esp. w/ Worcester playing Maine, BSC, then Fitchburg for it's final three... they could control their own future. On that note... Worcester didn't even bother throwing the ball with it's easy win over framingham...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3ballfan on October 08, 2005, 05:14:07 PM
Biggest upset of the year out of Cambridge....
MIT 31  WNEC 27
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 08, 2005, 05:35:11 PM
So Utah, your getting on my case why? I answered the kid's question, then was confused when Pat said the crossover was the tiebreaker, which is definitily the wrong way to break a tie but thats not my problem.

Worcestor State 37
Framingham State 0

Framingham with a robust 86 yards of offense.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RunNShoot on October 09, 2005, 12:00:35 AM
congrats to MIT in getting that first win.

Westfield didn't seem to dominate in their win today over mass.

EC's experience vs. top notch competition definatly aided them in their win over FSC.

Framingham's pass happy attack couldn't get off the ground it seems in the monsoon.  dissapointment there, but they're not as bad as you all make them out to be.

The thing I have noticed about this conference this year is that anything can happen any saturday.  Every week we seem to see at least one upset.  Not much is guaranteed in the NEFC.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 09, 2005, 01:26:27 AM
We're not making the players out to be that bad. We're making Coach Sullivan out to be the worst coach in the history of the game, which you can make a very strong argument for. 3 wins in 3 1/2 years is unacceptable in my book, and it should be unacceptable for Framingham State.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 09, 2005, 10:02:51 AM
Im not on your case sullymustgo, just pointing out that a head to head tiebreaker is obviously going to be the first tiebreaker as it is in basically all cases in all sports.

and I think points versus common opponents is worse than a crossover...that way somtimes teams with worse overall records could get in over a team with a better record.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ktroutvon on October 09, 2005, 11:15:35 AM
AptosDad,

  Regarding your question about attrition:

I think that it is common for players to drop off after a year or two.  I ended up being at Hobart for five years and basically had two senior classes.  Both of those classes started at around 50 as freshman and ended (I don't remember specifically) between 5-15 (probably at the lower end of that range).  DIII, from my experience, seems to be funny.  In addition to injuries and guys dropping out of programs for scholastic and disciplinary issues, some people decided that not travelling for four years isn't worth it (that's not to say that they aren't passionate about football, though some may argue that point).  Some also make other choices.  I did this, choosing to go abroad my senior fall to Copenhagen and missing Hobart's first NCAA playoff year even though I knew the team would be pretty good that year.  I had travelled also in previous years and played a little.  While I miss football, that experience could not be replicated.  The only way someone can make a choice like that is too plan two years ahead to go abroad in a spring semester, which requires a little less open mindedness (in my humble opinion) than any college kid should have. 

  You also have to consider that each year the coaching staff basically recruits guys that they either hope or expect to be better than the players currently on their roster. 

  I'd be interested if what I stated is true at most everywhere in DIII or only at some schools.  I would expect that, to some degree, their is an inverse relationship between the quality of acedemics at a school (not just meaning grade type of factors, but also likely to have a greater intellectual curiosity about the world as a whole) and the level of attrition of a freshman class over its four years.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 09, 2005, 11:19:50 AM
J. Utah,

If out of confeerence games will count for a playoff spot... then why should teams like Endicott play RPI in the first few weeks and Worcester State play WPI... if the tie breaker is overall record I would assume once a coach gets burned in this way that their out-of-conference games will not be as difficult.  This goes back to the start of the season when someone, i forgot who said that NEFC needs to play stronger teams for out of conference games to gain respect.  If i was a coach I would strive to win my league and gain the respect in the NCAA's.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 09, 2005, 11:49:45 AM
Utah, it doesn't matter if a team has a worse record as long as their division record puts them in first or tied. Like footballfan said, Endicott is a team with balls who wants to get better and plays a very tough non-conference schedule, it wouldn't be fair if their loss to RPI was a reason for them getting shafted out of the championship game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 09, 2005, 12:10:25 PM
Sully,

I didn't know you had a heart... and yes for EC to schedule RPI speeks volume...

On another note look at Hobart... they dropped Ithaca, Alfred and Fisher... why?  The reason was Academic's... meaning that the three schools produced Gym Teachers... and their standards for admission weren't up to the same qualifications.

But all three of those games were against tough, physical teams... why should Hobart risk injury, beat-up their players when those games don't count... if Hobart wins the LL they know get an automatic bid... where in previous years they weren't an automatic so they needed a tough schedule.

Therefore, Hobart says academics... I don't buy it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 09, 2005, 12:17:10 PM
Quote from: footballfan2005 on October 09, 2005, 12:10:25 PM
Sully,

I didn't know you had a heart... and yes for EC to schedule RPI speeks volume...

On another note look at Hobart... they dropped Ithaca, Alfred and Fisher... why?  The reason was Academic's... meaning that the three schools produced Gym Teachers... and their standards for admission weren't up to the same qualifications.

But all three of those games were against tough, physical teams... why should Hobart risk injury, beat-up their players when those games don't count... if Hobart wins the LL they know get an automatic bid... where in previous years they weren't an automatic so they needed a tough schedule.

Therefore, Hobart says academics... I don't buy it.

footballfan, you are wrong.  Hobart dropped Ithaca because both teams had to fill inconference games, not because they produce gym teachers.  Dont make up stupid things like that.

If the LL teams played nonconference games, then they might get a pool c bid if they dont win the league, something they wont get with thier current schedules.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ktroutvon on October 09, 2005, 12:25:41 PM
Hobart is picking Alfred back up and we never lost to them when I played or after before dropping them for a few years, which had to do with new leagues.  I was disappointed by dropping Ithaca b/c we had become very competitive with them since Coach Cragg's arrival (Ithaca fans, I know there were a couple of bad ones in there, but we did drop a shuout on them also). 

I'd like to see a direct quote, or at a minimum something indirect, that says that those schools were dropped b/c of differences in academic philosphies.  This whole academic thing gets out of hand b/c its not based on truth.  There were some very smart people at Hobart and some idiots also.  Same as people that I know at Nescac schools and IVY's. 

I (hate to do this), but have to say that going into the season, it looked like Union had scheduled quality non-conference games.  Same with Hobart for F&M.  I would agree though, that I'd like to see them pick up a 10th game against a quality opponent.  I have been intrigued by how they would do to against Wesley personally. 

I don't know if footballfan2005 is an nefc alum/student but I suppose we could pick up games against NEFC schools like RPI and past them 40-7.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 09, 2005, 07:24:12 PM
Why then did Hobart elect to play out-of-conference games w. F&M and Dickinson... over Ithaca, Alfred and Fisher...which are all close games in distance, not to mention riv... The reason is academics... look at the books... where does F&M and Dickinson rank compared to Ithaca, Alfred & Fisher...

And no I'm not a NEFC alum... I am a Liberty League Alum... just happened to get a job in Worcester... so i decided to pick a team and follow them.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ktroutvon on October 09, 2005, 07:35:09 PM
That's correlatiion without causation.  We have played F&M and Dickinson since at least 1995.  1996 was my first year and I recall hearing references to the previous year.  May have been much longer. 

You didn't go to Hobart so you really shouldn't talk about something which you know nothing about. 

In addition to your absurd theory, we are dropping F&M and picking Alfred back up after a 2 year hiatus starting next fall.  So now you need so stop talking about Hobart's program.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 09, 2005, 07:51:35 PM
This is the NEFC Site, not the LL Site so if you guys want to discuss why Hobart is playing the schedule they play go discuss it with the rest of the LL Posters and let the NEFC discuss topics like firing Sully, how to decide the winner of the Bogan if there is a tie, and the impact of EC playing tough teams in the non-conference portion of the schedule.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: IKNOWFB on October 09, 2005, 08:05:27 PM
It was a great weekend in NEFC football......big upsets in EC over pervious unbeaten and #2 ranking in new england, Fitchburg State College.   MIT coming together and pulling a thirller out against WNEC....
Looks like the bogan division is not as tough as people think. i happened to attend the EC Fitchburg game and just want to say what i saw was some sore losers in the fitchburg fans,     
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 09, 2005, 08:13:48 PM
IKNOWFB, I agree with you about the FSC fans and some of the players.  I was also at the game and the FSC fans were poor losers.  I also understand that some of the FSC players refused to shake hands with EC players at the end of the game.  I must also say that there was poor officiating both ways that towards the end of the game resulted in some unnessary personnal fouls being called on both teams. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 09, 2005, 08:29:51 PM
From what I've experienced, Fitchburgh has always been the bully type team of the league. All big and bad but when someone finally punches them in the mouth they begin fighting with eachother, the other team, the officials, whoever. They have really turned their program around wins wise, but their program really lacks dicipline and class. 2 Years ago when they went 5-4, they lost all of the 4 games by a touchdown or less i think and if they had a little more team dicipline I guerentee they atleast go 7-2. When I talk about lack of class, I'm not referring to the 75-0 beating of Framingham last year. Fram deserved that by trying to pull the stupid stunt of showing up 5 minutes prior to the kickoff.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 09, 2005, 08:46:44 PM
Another thing, can anyone tell me why my karma goes down even when I post a message that isn't negative. Other people right similiar things and I don't see them with and neg. karma. On the otherhand I kinda like being the lowest, but just wondering that and also does it mean anything. Maybe Pat or John John can answer that for me.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 09, 2005, 08:47:23 PM
Maybe cause I can't spell write right.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 09, 2005, 08:53:30 PM
Well, it could be people are still smiting you for previous posts -- it's possible someone is reading a previous post for the first time. But even if not, there's nothing that says someone can't continue to smite you for past bad acts. I would say that is fair game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 09, 2005, 08:55:41 PM
O ok thats how it works, Just wondering. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 09, 2005, 08:57:12 PM
How do you go about smiting someone?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 09, 2005, 09:03:18 PM
Karma is covered in the FAQ.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 09, 2005, 09:20:12 PM
footballfan2005, I already told you why hobart put those teams on their schedule instead of Ithaca and alfred...just go look at past schedules and you will see why hobart couldnt play ithaca anymore, IC and hobart had to fill those weeks with conference games for the new conference teams

and I can look at many "books" that have ithaca ranked higher than Hobart and the wannabe nescacs anyway
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 09, 2005, 09:28:40 PM
And let's close the book on the Hobart discussion on this board -- I'll remove any further posts on it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 10, 2005, 02:10:04 AM
ok pat, It Ill stop that talk on here, I can tell you love the nefc talk,

and I was so close to questioning footballfans comment about the wnec/mit absent prediction......I wished I had more $%!@# on sat morning when I read that.

MIT has some players and can suprise any team in the nefc......I hope they upset one or two more teams before the seasons done.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 10, 2005, 09:57:36 AM
SullyMustGo,  You got 2 stars with a Karma of -29, what more do you want?  Maybe Karma is like golf the lower the score the better.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 10, 2005, 11:45:42 AM
Not complaining unless it eventually gets me kicked out.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 10, 2005, 12:11:25 PM
Quote from: jonny utah on October 10, 2005, 02:10:04 AM
and I was so close to questioning footballfans comment about the wnec/mit absent prediction......I wished I had more $%!@# on sat morning when I read that.

MIT has some players and can suprise any team in the nefc......I hope they upset one or two more teams before the seasons done.

I saw MIT play a few weeks ago and they were terrible... which means that WNEC should be even that much worse.  I would put my money on a St. John's Prep or an Everett over MIT... enough said... they should take some pride in their progam and recruit or fold it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 10, 2005, 12:41:07 PM
So what your saying even Sully can beat WNEC next week or am i pushing it?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 10, 2005, 02:08:36 PM
If MIT can beat them... I think Framingham has a damn good shot... I saw them play WSC this past weekend in the rain... and the rain shut their whole offense down... not to mention they are in the same situation that MIT is in... I don't think Framingham has a second team offense or defense... I know MIT doesnt... I think their best players should go both ways...

I'll go out on a limb and say
Framingham 28  WNEC 21
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 10, 2005, 02:13:15 PM
So if Sullivan blows this one do you think he should not be signed back next year/?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 10, 2005, 02:18:16 PM
Thats a whole different story... I think that he should be fired ASAP... I agree with you on this issue... If you have 3 wins in three years your doing something wrong and they should fix it...

Framingham should also build a fieldhouse next to their field... during the WSC game it was pooring rain and both teams had to stand outside at halftime... unless they wanted to walk a mile to the locker-room facilities... i don't understand... they have a great new field turf... but no facilities to make it functional... What do the players do during the week?? It looked like all their practice equip. was behind the field... do the players have to walk down everyday for practice? That might be part of the recruitment problem...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: IKNOWFB on October 10, 2005, 03:00:25 PM
Footballfan05, in regards to the comment you made about WNEC losing to Framingham, I would be extremely suprised if Framingham comes within 14 points to WNEC. Let's not forget, WNEC gave EC a run for thier money, and they just beat the #2 team in New Engalnd. All I am saying is WNEC is alot better then thier last game. Don't get me wrong. the NEFC is not the strongest conference around but from what it looks like there is a lot of parody this year. and i smell an upset form an MIT or Salve.......
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 10, 2005, 03:08:45 PM
Whatever you call it: a let down... mistakes... the fact is they lost to MIT... those kids were terrible the last time i saw them play... it was like watching a highschool team... and maybe WNEC will be pissed off and beat Framingham... but after that loss I feel that Framingham has a good shot of beating WNEC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 10, 2005, 03:19:10 PM
In regards to the fieldhouse at Framingham. Sullivan has actually been trying to get some kind of building there, at worst trying to put up something like EC has or had when they first built their new field. That there is the administration and the AD not pushing for one. They definitly need something down there. I was there last year for the Fram EC game and it was rediculous having halftime down there.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 10, 2005, 03:46:59 PM
Iknowfb I agree with you, I really don't think Framingham has that great of a chance. They just don't have the depth and the coaching obviously. I'll make an early prediction.

          WNEC 27
          Framingham 14
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 10, 2005, 04:12:47 PM
I agree with IKnowFB, there is no way that WNEC loses to Framingham.  I don't know what happened to WNEC in the MIT game, but WNEC has a pretty good football team that has played some good games against some of the tougher teams in the NEFC.  Maybe they are just not a good team in the rain or maybe they just overlooked MIT.  Remember the bounce of the ball one way or the other can result in a poor team beating a good team.  Look at South Florida against Louisville.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 10, 2005, 04:18:26 PM
Another thing about MIT that I've noticed over the years is that they are very poor at the begginning of each season and tend to end on a high note usually ending up with 3 or 4 wins. As seen in the past, they get better as the season goes on.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fanfriendly on October 10, 2005, 08:08:22 PM
Does anyone know anything about Mass Maritime? I know they ar 0-5, losing to  MIT and Framingham, but they played Westfield and Maine Maritime Tough. Whats going on there
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 10, 2005, 08:46:47 PM
Anybody who loses to Framingham has major issues. A good HS team would beat Mass MAritime.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 10, 2005, 08:55:46 PM
Not trying to dis on Mass maritime but I've talked to a couple Framingham players and they said MAM is horrible. Much worse than last years squad.  Although Fram players will admit they should have lost to them.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 10, 2005, 09:12:01 PM
Sully,

From what i'm hearing from you Framingham needs some serious help... although I did recognize one former north shore star... dt... Ford... if they get a few more of those transfers they might be able play w/ 50% of the league... He was at U-Mass Amherst if I recall correclty
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 10, 2005, 09:36:51 PM
Yes thats true, but they are hard to come by. He came to play football there, but it helped that his sister already was enrolled there which helps. They need some transfers that play the skilled positions. Or recruit better. Or how about they keep the players they have and hire a new coach.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MOJO on October 10, 2005, 09:53:14 PM
Sullymustgo,
Keep preaching the faith brother.  Sully must go!  Fram does this, brings in a decent coach that can also recruit, and they proceed in a positive direction.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 10, 2005, 10:05:32 PM
As you can see MOJO I have alot of following as well. All we need now is a Varsity Blues type of rebellion. Now that would be a nice sight.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 10, 2005, 10:11:42 PM
why don't you apply
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 10, 2005, 10:48:16 PM
I would love to be the head coach there
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 10, 2005, 10:49:31 PM
But then again i dont think any college is going to hire a 23 year old head coach.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 10, 2005, 10:55:18 PM
yea never know... it's all about the presentation and who you surround yourself with...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 10, 2005, 11:08:08 PM
I'll tell you one thing though. I can call better plays than Rogers, their O-Coord. Watch a game of theirs. Absolutely herendous. But enough talk about me applying for the job, this message board isn't for that stuff. But by the way a 23 or 24 yeard old coach did apply for the job when Sully did and from what I heard they liked him he was just too young. I bet the Carey Williams is kicking herself now. Actually probably patting herself on the back because every football player there thinks she's purposly sabatoging the program.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fanfriendly on October 10, 2005, 11:19:07 PM
Sully,
You said MAM should have beat framingham, and they played westfield and MEM right down til the end.......whats their deal
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 10, 2005, 11:51:12 PM
I wasn't at the game so I can't tell you what their problem was. I heard from Framingham players that Mass should have won. But you have to understand Framingan is not a good team, Westfield is definitly not as good as they use to be, and Mass usually plays Maine tight because it's a rivalry type of game. In my opinion Mass just doesn't have the depth and the skill players to compete and win.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bearyear on October 11, 2005, 12:02:23 AM
in regards to framingham, the last chance they ever had at having a successfull season went right out the door when abraham bascon graduated. he dominated the league with his ability to make plays whenever he touched the ball. in order for framingham to succeed they must recruit players alike.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 11, 2005, 12:06:29 AM
Played with abe my first year at Framingham. He was a great player and had a great attititude and love for the game. I Still remember back on his 200+ yard rushing game as a QB filling in for the injured callhan vs. Mass Maritime.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on October 11, 2005, 10:52:50 AM
How do you knowledgable NEFC fans feel next seasons NEFC newcomers will do? Plymouth State, Coast Guard (and who else?)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 11, 2005, 01:11:58 PM
Plymouth State is getting better but if you noticed they play alot of cupcakes. Coast Guard will do well I think.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on October 11, 2005, 01:43:35 PM
Weren' they in this league before? What happened?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 11, 2005, 01:52:33 PM
Don't think any of the new teams were ever in te NEFC before.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 11, 2005, 01:53:16 PM
Plymouth was in the NEFC in the 1980s at least......I think they went into the freedom conference for more prestige...after the joe dudek years.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 11, 2005, 02:27:03 PM
While we're on the topic of what the NEFC will look like next year. Does anyone have an opinion on the number of teams and if the conference is getting too big. I know way back in previous posts I think someone mentioned they should split into 2 different conferences. Say they were to split, who would go where. You could have all the private schools in one and the state school in the other. Downfall to this is that teams like Framingham will get spanked everygame. THey need the MITs and Mass Maritime's to beat. Another scenario could be to put the weaker teams in their own conference. Probably is unlikely though.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 11, 2005, 04:55:09 PM
It would be a mistake to divide the conference into 2 separate conferences... and I believe you can't divide the teams by strength b/c that will change every few years... what you could do is take the top 4 teams now and put 2 in each conference and then randomly select the other teams...

If they split into 2 separate conference i don't believe they would each have an automatic bid... considering the NEFC hasn't done much in the NCAA's in the past.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 11, 2005, 05:04:37 PM
I don't think they should split either, I was just throwing some things out there. The more teams the merrier.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 11, 2005, 05:38:16 PM
The problem you get into with 2 more teams joining the NEFC is that each division will have 8 teams.  If you have to play all of the teams in your division that takes care of 7 games.  If the conference requires two cross-over games, you now tie up 9 scheduling spots which is all some teams play anyway.  Those that play 10 games will only get 1 non-conference game which means that the NEFC will remain weak because they don't get the opportunity to play some outside competition like RPI, Merrimack, Hartwick.  If the conference doesn't require cross-over games, then there would be 2-3 scheduling spots for non-conference games.  Of course, I am not sure what the conference would do about tie-breakers if there were no cross-over games.  Also if there are no cross-over games why have two divisions. 
Title: Something other than Framingham
Post by: truth617 on October 11, 2005, 08:29:05 PM
Why does it seem like the only thing people ever talk about on here is Framingham? I would like to know who's everyone favoring to be nefc champs now that we're halfway through the season.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 11, 2005, 08:38:51 PM
I'd have to say Bridgewater State Vs. Endicott with BSC winning it all. I am very impressed with Maine Maine Maritime this year though.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 11, 2005, 11:57:40 PM
Worcester @ Curry... with Worcester State taking the title...

Reasoning... Curry: they are finally playing well and i feel Endicott won over Fitchburg b/c of the weather.

Worcester: is improving every game.. their running game is taking off and they'll have one more tune-up game against Mass Maritime to get the passing attack on track before they play Maine, BSC, and Fitchburg... if they get by Maine i feel they will roll.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 12, 2005, 12:07:01 AM
That's where I think Worcestor is going to stumble. They're going to lose to Maine.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 12, 2005, 12:33:42 AM
I don't agree with you... BSC was able to throw against Maine.. but didn't run well... I feel that Worcester will be able to throw and run against Maine... it will be a good game but I give the edge to Worcester
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3FAN05 on October 12, 2005, 05:32:55 AM
footballfan2005,

How can you say that Endicott won the game vs Fitchburg because of the weather? They both had to play in the rain and the game was played on FieldTurf so it was not muddy.

I was at the game and Endicott played great defense forcing 6 interceptions and rushed and passed the ball well. They also punted great pinning Fitchburg deep several times.

I would say it was anything BUT the weather that got EC that win.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bomber Backer on October 12, 2005, 06:59:20 AM
Congrats to Endicott on their big win over Fitchburg. It's pretty clear that they are the team to beat and their two losses to New York private school only helped this young team. I don't buy into the weather being a factor whatsoever. Fitchburg is an unclassy team who I'm sure thought they would walk all over the gulls. I would look Endicott to secure the NEFC crown and hopefully keep a playoff game close for once. It's also pretty clear that Framingham State has absolutely no offense, as has been the case the past few years. At least in the past they kept points off the board with some talented defensive players like the captains they started out with in '03. Too bad the coaching staff didn't take advantage all their talent. A perfect example is the starting DE and captain of that year, one of the most talented players on the team.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 12, 2005, 08:03:03 AM
I agree that the weather had nothing to do with the EC win over FSC.  The EC defense is realy coming aorund and EC has the ability for their defense to carry the team until the offense gets it going and then the offense can take care of the game.  I think that it will be EC against Me Maritime in the NEFC championship and EC will win in a close game.  I think the EC defense can handle Maine's offense.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 12, 2005, 09:33:17 AM
I'd love to see Maine win the conference. Don't really see it happening though. I still have to go with Bridgewater.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 12, 2005, 10:12:12 AM
The problem with FSC is that they have a limited offense.  EC's defense was able to stop the run (53 rushing yards) and that effectively stopped FSC.  If it hadn't been for stupid mistakes EC would have scored 3 more TDs against FSC.  FSCs only score came on a blocked punt, so the FSC offense didn't score at all.  The blocked punt came after EC had put in the second string with about 4 minutes left in the game.

I don't understand what it takes for EC to get some respect in the NEFC.  I understand that they are a new team (in their 3rd year varsity), but they had a winning record last year and tied Curry for 1st in the Boyd.  This year they beat an undefeated FSC team that was at the time ranked 2nd in New England.  Yet people seem to thnik it was a fluke. They have one of the top defenses in the NEFC and the 2nd best rushing team in the NEFC.  What does it take to get some respect?  If they run the table through the rest of the Boyd and go to the NEFC Championship, I suppose everyone will still think it is a fluke.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Popsman on October 12, 2005, 12:51:00 PM
Looking at the past games played by Maine and who they have left to play, it will be extremely difficult for them to win the NEFC.    They just lost to Bridgewater, a relatively small sized defense, who held their star runner to about 130 yds.   Maine still has to play FSC, Westfield and Worcester, all big defensive teams, able to stop the run.  I don't think the Maine passing game can make a difference.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fanfriendly on October 12, 2005, 01:38:04 PM
Maine is not as good as there record indicated......I was at teh game against Mass Maritime and the game was anyones late in teh 4th......Mass hels there fulllback to under a hundred, i dont think they have a chance against westfield, FSC, and Worcester
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 12, 2005, 03:29:18 PM
Maine will beat Westfield. Westfield is not that good this year. On another note I agree with 63Center. EC doesn't really get the recognition they deserve. They went from a club team just 3 years ago and now look at them. I beleive they will win their side, but lose in the championship game. Worcestor and Westfeild are way over-rated.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 12, 2005, 11:38:13 PM
As for Endicott not having respect... No I don't give them any respect b/c they haven't done anything yet... so they beat Fitchburg... okay Fitchburg beat Westfield state by 6 points in 3 OVERTIMES!!!!.... Worcester then came out and smoked Westfield by 40 points... When and If EC beats Curry in the final week of the season I might give them respect... when they win the NEFC they will get the respect any champ gets. Does that answer your CRYIN 63 center???

As for Maine... I think Worcester State will beat them.. I feel they will have to play a good game up front in stopping the run like they did against Westfield and force them to pass... if they can do that they can win.

Any predictions on this weekends lineup??
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 12, 2005, 11:45:19 PM
Game Time!!!

Fitchburg  10  vs  Maine Maritime 28
>>> Fitchburg will have trouble stopping the ground attack against Maine.  And from what the stats say from last week we know Fitchburg can't throw the ball.

Westfield 14  vs  Bridgewater  35
>>> QB is gunna have a day

EC 14   vs  Salva 28  ** Upset of the week**
>>> EC shows their inexperience and has a let down against Salva... see NO RESPECT

Mass Dartmouth 35  vs MIT 21
>>> Mass Dart starts to roll after a tough start

WNEC  21  vs Framingham  28

Worcester State  56  vs  Mass Maritime 14
>>> Tune-up game before the final three... WSC will run up and down the field.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 13, 2005, 09:33:21 AM
Picks for this weekend:

MEM  35 @Fitchburg 10  Fitchburg couldn't stop EC's ground game so I don't see them stopping Maine Maritime either.

MIT 13 @UMD 28  UMD is starting to get their act together and should have no problems with MIT.

Salve 7 @EC 21  EC Homecoming and continued win streak.

BSC 21  @ Westfield 10

Curry 35 @Nichols 7  Curry will be getting primed for the game against EC next week.

Framingham 13 @WNEC 28   WNEC will get back on the winning track at home.

MAM 0 @ WSC 42  WSC is out to prove they are number 1 in the NEFC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: IKNOWFB on October 13, 2005, 02:50:06 PM
Big bad FOOTBALLFAN2005,   inexperience endicott team?  you lost me on that one....90% of the starters, are jouniors and seniors. The starters have been playing since they were freshmen.  The starters, been in every big game the last three years since the program started.  Will they get upset by Salve? maybe who knows, but to say they are inexperience is bogus......RIP, WPI and Hartwick will give any team the experience to beat anyone in this league......

Perdictions for this week....
Endicott...24  Salve...14  Defence will again keep the gulls in this game....a win is a win...will be close though

Fitchburg....14  Maine Maritime....7  Will get the close win after a tough defeat from those INEXPERIENCED endicott

Westfield.....12  Bridgewater......34   Westfield does not have enough to beat a good brigewater team

UMD....20 MIT...7   MIT will play a good game but lighting doesn't strike twice.

WNEC....27...Framingham....0   WNEC has the best freshmen player in the conference in Jordan Capitanio  and will go off against a weak Framingham

Curry 34  Nichols...0    Curry pulls together a shutout for the easy win.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Popsman on October 13, 2005, 05:14:44 PM
Couple of days ago, therre were posts about FSC's lack of class and poor sportsmanship.   I agree.  After the BSC - FSC game, the FSC fans and some players were ridiculous.   Followed BSC players & BSC fans off the field, screaming "over rated", swearing, etc.  And FSC had won by a TD. 
Plus what happened to their clock?  BSC had the ball & momentum in 4th qtr.  FSC defense was beat after BSC scored 2 TDs and then clock goes out giving them a long rest.   Coincidence?  I don't think so.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 13, 2005, 06:59:40 PM
My Picks:

MEM  27 vs. Fitchburg 21 

MIT 7  vs. UMD 21 

Salve 14 vs. Endicott 44

BSC 37  vs.  Westfield 7

Curry 35 vs. Nichols 14 

Framingham 13 vs. WNEC 42 

MAM 7 vs. WSC 35 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 13, 2005, 07:00:39 PM
Quote from: IKNOWFB on October 13, 2005, 02:50:06 PM
Big bad FOOTBALLFAN2005,   inexperience endicott team?  you lost me on that one....90% of the starters, are jouniors and seniors. The starters have been playing since they were freshmen.  The starters, been in every big game the last three years since the program started.  Will they get upset by Salve? maybe who knows, but to say they are inexperience is bogus......RIP, WPI and Hartwick will give any team the experience to beat anyone in this league......


Remind me again what big games have they played in??? I'm not talking about high school.... did they beat RPI, WPI or Hartwick??? I gave them credit early in year for scheduling RPI and Hartwick, but thats were the credit stops... if they RPI I would have given them all the respect they deserve, but they fell apart in that game... hence inexperience vs experience both in the players but more importantly in the COACHING staff... They may be starters from the time they were junior or seniors but 50% or more of their starters wouldn't even be play for an RPI or Hobart or Curry... they were starters out of necessity
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 13, 2005, 07:07:42 PM
footballfan2005 at least EC has the guts to play teams like RPI and Hartwick, unlike Curry who is afarid to play anyone outside of the NEFC and when they do in the NCAA they get their heads handed to them just like EC did when they played RPI.  I fail to understand why everyone thinks Curry is so tough when they don't play anyone.  The NEFC is the weakest conference in the country and Curry wins it, big deal.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 13, 2005, 07:27:32 PM
B/c they are the defending Champs.... we'll see if Endicott can knock them off until then... Curry w/get the respect.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3FAN05 on October 13, 2005, 08:17:15 PM
footballfan,

What fuels your dislike of EC? Furthermore, you have now cited the coaches in your rant - from what I see the staff has a good deal of experience and is doing a pretty good job with a new program.

I agree that to be the best you have to beat the best, which Curry has been the past 2 years. However, I think respect has been earned by Endicott in regards to not only scheduling, but solid play vs NEFC teams this year - which I think is what this board is talking about.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3FAN05 on October 13, 2005, 08:17:51 PM
perhaps "respect" should be replaced with "bragging rights"...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 13, 2005, 08:27:05 PM
The funny thing is I like EC... I hope they beat Curry... but until they do I disagree w/the respect people are giving them for beating fitchburg and losing to 2 out of conference teams
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3FAN05 on October 14, 2005, 08:28:08 AM
footballfan,

I think EC has earned a certain amount of "respect" for beating Fitchburg State (they were undefeated and ranked #2 in New England). At the very least they have the bragging rights over the falcons for a year.

I do agree that while they are scheduling competition from stronger conferences they need to get a win against them to get the proper repect in that area.

Should be a great game in Beverly on Saturday - homecoming and a Boyd Division match up! Go Gulls!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bearyear on October 14, 2005, 09:47:56 AM
popsman, i to was at the bsc fitch game and i agree that they had the worst sportsmanship that iv seen in a while. not only were students being poor sports, i heard one of the parents yelling at one of bsc's players. and as for the clock i believe in a situation like that i believe that the refs have the game time on their watches so they shouldv continued the game within 30 seconds and not 5 min. im 100 % sure that that game was dirty, meaning outside participation in fsc's win.  should be under protest

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: IKNOWFB on October 14, 2005, 11:04:44 AM
To remind footballfan2005, Endicott College just beat the #2 team in New England, id say that is a pretty big game.

But anyways, whats up with Nichols, they were contending for the title the past few years and now thier in the basement.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 14, 2005, 01:50:55 PM
footballfan2005, I agree that Curry deserves respect as the reigning NEFC champs and should retain that respect until they lose it to someone else.  However, you refer to the the EC Coaching Staff and team as inexperienced because they lost to a very tough RPI team that plays in one of the toughest conferences in the East.   If losing to RPI is a sign of inexperience, what does it mean when Curry loses to Fitchburg (who EC easily handled) and Worcester State in the weakest conference in D3.  I fail to see the logic that says EC is inexperienced because they lost two games to non-conference teams.  Curry lost 2 games in conference does that mean they are inexperienced?  Your rationale for calling a team inexperienced just doesn't make sense.  Experience is something you get by doing something, in this case playing football.  EC has players that have played D3 football for 3-4 years that means they have experience, the same as Curry's players.  If they were all Freshmen I would agree that they are inexperienced.   I agree that games can be won or lost because of a lack on experience, I don't  think you would find any of the EC players or coaches blaming the loses on inexperience.  I also doubt that Coach Nelson would blame the Curry loses on inexperience.  I guess it is a good thing that EC and Curry meet next week so we can watch these inexperienced teams play.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 14, 2005, 01:53:24 PM
big game... it's a regular scheduled game... "Big Game" would be a championship game or playoff game... or when they play Curry for the league title... but the fitchburg game didn't mean anything... win or lose it wouldn't have effected their conference... can't wait for Curry vs EC... we'll see if they can de-throne the champ... if they do that then i'll give them some respect
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 14, 2005, 01:57:43 PM
footballfan2005,  Just in case I want to be clear, I understand that you feel EC has not earned respect yet and I respect your right to feel that way.  You are correct in saying that other than Fitchburg they haven't beaten anyone yet and if that is your rationale for not giving them respect, fine.  I am not asking you to respect them unless you believe thy have earned it.  I just want to understand, what your definition of experience is.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 14, 2005, 02:02:56 PM
63 center,

When I talk about experience... I mean 'Big Game" experience ie. playoff games, championship games... EC doesn't have that yet... Yes Curry lost a couple of games early... but their still in the drivers seat, their 3-0 in conference.  They should have lost to WSC in week one... but WSC showed how young their team is w/a crazy amount of penalties (several delay of games, holding, fumbles, int's etc.). However, I also feel a lot of that had to do w/coaching and a short preseason...WSC has something like 4 seniors that play.  

As for the RPI game they fell apart in the second half... or one might say RPI made good adjustments at the half and EC had no answers for those adjustment... aka coaching... and yes I would have to say hands down RPI's staff is a lot better that EC's.

And you say EC easily handled Fitchburg... it was a 21-7 ball game... that's not easily handled... And again they have 3-4 years of playing time from necessity, not skill....

And Yes I can't wait for next weeks game... until then...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 14, 2005, 02:17:40 PM
footballfan2005,

OK, I can accept that expereince in "big games" is a factor that EC lacks and Curry has.  Thansk for explaining what you meant.

Regarding RPI adjusting and EC not adjusting being a coaching issue, I disagree.  RPI made a couple of big plays (one being a 99 yard run for TD) that put them in the drivers seat and takes away some coaching options.  It has nothing to do with coaching experience. 

I say EC easily handled Fitchburg, because EC was ahead 21-0 with 4 minutes to go in the game and was playing the 2nd and 3rd string players when Fitchburg blcoked a punt to score their only points of the game.  Of I guess that putting in the 2nd string when you are ahead 21-0 with 4 minutes to go is coaching inexperience.  I guess EC should have kept their starters in so they could have run up the score.

I do agree that EC Seniors have 3-4 years experience out of necessity.  However I also think they have some skilled  players at a number of positions.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 15, 2005, 08:52:26 AM
So much for the rain letting up... any of todays games being played on grass?  Could play a large role in equalizing 2 teams
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 15, 2005, 06:40:10 PM
I rest my case with Framingham. Their performance today was disgusting and embarrassing. Sully should think twice about coming back next year. Funny think was a couple of the players 2 weeks ago said they could win out, I'm hoping they were joking.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: truth617 on October 15, 2005, 10:09:14 PM
What's goin on with Westfield??? Ever since they lost to FSC in 3 overtimes they haven't been playin too well it seems. Are they anywhere near full strenght?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 16, 2005, 12:05:35 PM
Westfield barely beat WNEC and Nichols for their wins.  Neither of these teams is having a good year either.  Maybe Westfield was simply overrated.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 16, 2005, 12:08:51 PM
I agree that Westfield is over-rated, they havn't done anything to prove me wrong. I was somewhat wrong about Worcestor though, but I dont think they're going to beat out Bridgewater.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 16, 2005, 02:51:44 PM
Anyone have ascore on the Curry-Nichols game?  All of the other teams in the NEFC played through the rain and torrential down pours yesterday, why was this game postponed?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 16, 2005, 05:50:42 PM
Sully,

If they can WSC college can beat Maine next week... I think they'll have all the confidence they need to take out BSC... WSC played a solid mistake free football against Mass Maritime in the rain and wind... on a campus in which they were evacuating... no score board.. no play clock... WSC came out and shut down the run.. looking forward to WSC @ Maine on saturday
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 16, 2005, 06:20:38 PM
Worcestor is better than I thought they were I just don't think they'll win their side of the conference.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3FAN05 on October 16, 2005, 07:09:24 PM
I heard the Curry-Nicols game was delayed due to flooding in the area. Curry took care of business today setting up the big homecoming game with EC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Popsman on October 17, 2005, 11:01:40 AM
Worcester's record is misleading.  They lost to Curry, barely beat Salve 28-27, and the rest of their games were against MIT, Framingham, Mass Maritime, all at the bottom of the league.  Beating Westfield by a lot is a plus, but is Westfield overrated? 
Worcester plays Maine, Bridgewater & Fitchburg to close season.  Tough schedule and will say a lot if they can win all three.  They need all three to get Bogan 1st place.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctforce on October 17, 2005, 01:31:55 PM
Ok folks, so what happened to maine maritime this week???  I thought you all said Fitchburg was all done and couldn't stop their run game??  I do not disagree that Fitchburg did not play well against EC and give EC credit for beating them.  But, here we go again with no respect!  Sound familiar EC fans.  I remember Bridgewater having a fantastic back that Fitchburg held to well under a 100 yards.  Now another tremendous back comes in and is held to 51.  Says something about the Fitchburg 'D' does it not?  Maine did not look good from the opening play.  I am not sure why, but they looked like a deer in headlights.  I guess thats what happens now that they are in the meat of their schedule. 

And how about sportsmanship?  I know a lot of you feel Fitchburg has no class, well, what was the Maine coach doing out on the field by the numbers arguing with the officials?  He did this a few times during the games.  Oh, thats right, Fitchburg sets up the officials to help them like they did in the Bridgewater game.  Lets get real fans.  You are really nieve if think this happens.

I really am still amused by you folks that label Fitchburg as the only team that does things relating to what you all call bad sportsmanship.  I will not disagree that we have had our moments, but so have a lot of other teams.  I kind of feel that Fitchburg is the Oakland Raiders of the NEFC that way you all talk.  Oh well, it is what it is.

All that aside, I think maine has a good chance of beating Worcester as they are a tough team to play at home.  Plus, Worcester has to travel to Fitchburg for the last game of the season so I think their chances of winning the division are slim.

I think the best NEFC championship game we can all hope for is EC vs Fitchburg rematch.  Have you ever heard of the saying 'kick a sleeping dog to wake it up'??  Well, I think thats what EC did to Fitchburg and a rematch would be great. 


Hats off to the Fitchburg tailgaters who did not let the rain deter them from taking care of their team!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny on the Spot on October 17, 2005, 01:35:01 PM
Nichols got smoked by Curry, and they finish with MIT, WNEC and EC, anybody think they will go winless. They were in the hunt a few years ago, but have gotten progressively worse since 2000. It looks like the Curry/Endicott game next week will decide the Boyd. I got to go with experience and pick Curry. Anyone have any thoughts on either topic
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Popsman on October 17, 2005, 03:25:08 PM
Didn't Nichols lose their QB Michael Carven after the first game this year?  He both ran and passed and was the focus of their offense the last two years.   I think he led the league in total offense last year.   If so, it might explain some of their losses.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 17, 2005, 05:04:52 PM
ctforce,

Looks like Fitchburg should be in the drivers seat for the divisional championship with only one real challenging game left (Worcester) while Worcester has a tough road to go with MEM, Bridegwater & Fitchburg.  I agree with your comment about  "kicking a sleeping dog" in regards to the potential rematch with EC.  I said after the EC win that it could be tough if they meet again.  Of course EC has to take care of their own business on Sat at Curry.  Of course it could also be said that Curry may be looking for a rematch with Fitchburg after loosing to them early in the year.  Looks like there might be a number of sleeping dogs that are starting to wake up.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HerbTuck89 on October 17, 2005, 07:14:43 PM
I agree with you that it looks like the Falcons are in the driver seat.  A friend and I became a fan while they were playing their games at Luenburg High School.  We decided to take in the Maine game in the pouring rain and saw a team that looked much better then when they played Bridgewater.  I also disagree about Fitchburg being unsportmanlike.  I have been to Big 10 D1 games that got a lot more rowdy than that.  Imagine over 10,000 student body strong taunting and berating opposing players, coaches and refs.  I enjoyed the overall college football game atmosphere at Fitchburg including Cheerleaders.  One question, I thought D3 schools weren't allowed to recruit.  If so how in the heck did they get starting players from Marshall, Florida South Carolina, NY and CT?  It sounds like Coach Haverty is building a true football program.  Also would it be possible for a team like Fitchburg to move up to Division 2?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 17, 2005, 07:17:37 PM
Quote from: HerbTuck89 on October 17, 2005, 07:14:43 PM
One question, I thought D3 schools weren't allowed to recruit. 

There's no such restriction in Division III.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HerbTuck89 on October 17, 2005, 07:34:32 PM
Pat,

Thanks for the answer... I'm going to google some of these guys.  I'm just curious on why some of these players ended up in Fitchburg.

I modified because I just saw a post on NJ board that answered the question and then some....

Thanks again

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 17, 2005, 07:55:45 PM
We posted some lists of recruits and links to local newspaper stories this past summer in the Daily Dose. I know the Florida Fitchburg player was listed and his local paper did a piece.

http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/?cat=3
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AptosDad on October 17, 2005, 08:42:57 PM
Regarding talk about Nichols, no one has made a prediction yet for their upcoming game against MIT.  I know it ranks as a "who cares?" for most hardcore fans, but it isn't the typical slamdunk that most MIT games are.  I noticed that Nichols starts a few freshmen, but MIT started 10 in last week's game.    Is it possible those guys that were playing high school ball last year are starting to get a feel for the college game and improving at a faster rate than their older class teammates?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 17, 2005, 09:51:55 PM
herbtuck, fitchburg st will not go d2.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HerbTuck89 on October 17, 2005, 10:07:28 PM
Pat - thanks

Jonny Utah - I was just wondering if they could.  I looked at their roster and it looks like they have players that were either D1, D2 recruits at one time and may be adding Junior College transfers.  Coach Haverty looks like he is building a pretty solid team for the next couple of years.  Googled a couple of these guys and it was pretty impressive.  It is odd that they would come to a small Div 3 school if they have had pretty solid High School and College careers especially the ones out of state.  FL, SC, NY, NJ and CT that are among the starters.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 17, 2005, 10:18:16 PM
Quote from: HerbTuck89 on October 17, 2005, 10:07:28 PM
Pat - thanks

Jonny Utah - I was just wondering if they could.  I looked at their roster and it looks like they have players that were either D1, D2 recruits at one time and may be adding Junior College transfers.  Coach Haverty looks like he is building a pretty solid team for the next couple of years.  Googled a couple of these guys and it was pretty impressive.  It is odd that they would come to a small Div 3 school if they have had pretty solid High School and College careers especially the ones out of state.  FL, SC, NY, NJ and CT that are among the starters.

Yea they could go d2 if they wanted, but they have all those out of state players because the coach must recruit there.  And lets not forget, if those guys were d1 or d2 transfers, they might not be very good ones.   Fitchburg St is still probably one of the worst d3 teams in the country.....in the bottom 10 percent anyway. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HerbTuck89 on October 17, 2005, 10:35:06 PM
Jonny U.

Why would you say such a thing?  They are division champs and they do have a pretty good record right now.  I did google a couple of their out of state players and they look to be pretty good studs on their high school teams and were either being recruited or were going to other colleges that they were recruited too.  I have seen lots of football and they are not bad. I saw them stop what was suppose to be a very good Maine Maritime team and Bridgewater team.  They do have their act together.  I also heard at the Maine game their team should be full strength in the next week or two.  The offense backfield has been hurting and the DL has only two starters that have been playing the last two weeks.  I would think that they would need to play better competition if NEFC is not too good.  They did beat Curry who I thought was the major competition of the NEFC.  Maybe they could change conferences.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 17, 2005, 10:46:33 PM
Im just trying to be honest herbtuck.  I went to highschool with a few guys that played up at fitchburg and they were good players, but the school doesnt have the depth to compete on the national level yet...many new england d3 teams have a lot of out of state players (mt ida, Mit, becker)  that doesnt mean they are good teams....again, Im just comparing them to other d3 teams nationally.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HerbTuck89 on October 17, 2005, 11:05:58 PM
As I mentioned earllier it looked like Coach Haverty was building a team.  He only has a few players graduating this year.  Your right he doesn't have much depth but they have been hurting the last couple of weeks and a parent told me that they should be ok in the next week or two.  Even with the injuries they seem to play pretty well in spite of that.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 17, 2005, 11:37:17 PM
Herbtuck,

Fitchburg college won't win the NEFC... what makes you think their a great D3 football team??...If they played in the Liberty League they would be lucky to be a 500 ball team... That being said the Liberty League has trouble after making it out of the region (or past the 2nd or 3rd game of the NCAA playoffs), except for RPI a couple of years back.  The real issue is teams like Rowan, Mt. Union, Linfield are powerhouses... they have mainly D1 transfers and have huge squads... name 1 NEFC team that has a frosh, jv, and varsity team?  In upstate a few teams that do this are Ithaca, Fisher and maybe a couple of others...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 17, 2005, 11:51:34 PM
Fitchburgh has to win the NEFC before their name can be even mentioned in the same sentance as D2....which they would never move up anyway. Just cause they get D1AA or D2 transfers doesn't really mean a whole lot unless they're quality players. Some get recruited by top schools but they never pan out becuase they arnt good enough. Transfers who actually played would be a different story. And whoever says Fitchburgh has class is a moron. They are the sorest losers I have ever seen. No team discipline at all.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 17, 2005, 11:55:17 PM
not to mention half of the D2 teams in the region are terrible... i'd put my money on the upper Liberty League Teams such as Hobart or RPI against any of the MASS D2 football teams
Title: NEFC school earns honors
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 18, 2005, 12:15:12 AM
Johnny Utah i picked this out for you:

The Princeton Review says WSC is a  "Best Northeastern College"
Worcester State College was selected by The Princeton Review as a "Best Northeastern College" for the new 2006 edition of its book, The Best Northeastern Colleges (Random House / Princeton Review, August 2, 2005). WSC is one of 224 select colleges and universities in the Northeast to receive this distinction. Worcester State College is the only state college selected in Massachusetts distinguished by this recognition. This is the second year in a row that WSC has been selected.

Title: Looking ahead...
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 18, 2005, 12:30:25 AM
Worcester 35      @ Maine Maritime 21
>>> Worcester stops the run and are ready to make a run at the Bogan Division!!

Fitchburg 48        @ Mass Maritime 0
>>> Starters out at the half... trying to get healthy

WNEC 13             @ UMass Dartmouth 21
>>> U-D keeps it rolling

Salve Regina 21   @ Bridgewater 35

Westfield 21         @ Framingham 28
>>> They getta win one sometime

GAME OF THE WEEK
Endicott 28 @ Curry 38
>>> Curry retains its crown with a equal amount of run and pass... homefield advantage (who ever is in charge of their stero... it will be playing whenever EC has the ball on third or 4th down... it cost WSC a few costly penalities in week 1)... not sure if it's legal... but they do it!!


Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctforce on October 18, 2005, 07:14:25 AM
Quote from: SullyMustGo on October 17, 2005, 11:51:34 PM
Fitchburgh has to win the NEFC before their name can be even mentioned in the same sentance as D2....which they would never move up anyway. Just cause they get D1AA or D2 transfers doesn't really mean a whole lot unless they're quality players. Some get recruited by top schools but they never pan out becuase they arnt good enough. Transfers who actually played would be a different story. And whoever says Fitchburgh has class is a moron. They are the sorest losers I have ever seen. No team discipline at all.



Hey sullymustygo,

You need to go back to complaining about Framingham because you obviously don't know what's going on up at Fitchburg!  How can a team that has no discipline beat the likes of Curry, Bridegwater and Maine which you guys have been picking over them?  I don't think it was just a fluke.  You are obviously a very opinated person and don't look at the big picture.  As I have often said before and others have posted, a lot of what you're talking about goes on with most of the teams.  If you can't acknowldge that, don't knock other teams down. 

Most of the transfers up there would have played at the level they were recruited but not as much as they are here, thats a reality.  Coach Haverty has knack at being able to find transfers that are unhappy where they were at and sells them on his philosophy and that they can be a part of building this program into a steady NEFC and DIII contender.  Which is exactly what is happening.  Kind of like Sullys 7 year plan but only in 4.  How can a state school in Mass get to the power level of some of these schools when they are limited in the number of players they can have on their roster and they're lucky to have one full time coach?  There are a lot of logistics/funds that go into building a top notch DIII program that a lot of these schools don't have access to.  Kind of comes down to the STUDENT/athlete portion of going to college and what is more improtant.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on October 18, 2005, 07:25:34 AM
Oh my, I was gone for a week, and now everything is a mess.

1.  No one in New england ii (or at least should) go to D2.  As a matter of fact, the D2 teams should go to D3, but that is another story.  If you move up in one sport, I think every other sport has to go up as well, so there is no way anyone is ready to do that.

2.  I was at the BSC- Maine game a week ago, man, Keavey looked good, but Fitchburg Shut him down, then this week they shut down # 44 for Maine, but they coudl not stop Festa, so why doesn't he get any of the respect he deserves.

3. Who is this NEFC FOOTBALL 2005 or whatever his name is, he made his picks on a Monday (maybe early Tuesday), that is just not accecptable.

4.  CT Force, I know you like FSC, and I actually think they are rather good too, but they are a bit of a ruff-necked team.  As an EC grad, I heard about them not reacting awesome to the loss, some even not shaking hands.  But to try to say they are good sports might be a stretch.  But that also makes them fun to see.  I like watching the Raiders, so maybe that is what the Falcons have going for them.

5.  I think this weekends game with Curry and EC will be great, sounds like the kids are ready for it and so are the fans, I know that much.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctforce on October 18, 2005, 07:29:28 AM
Quote from: 63Center on October 17, 2005, 05:04:52 PM
ctforce,

Looks like Fitchburg should be in the drivers seat for the divisional championship with only one real challenging game left (Worcester) while Worcester has a tough road to go with MEM, Bridegwater & Fitchburg.  I agree with your comment about  "kicking a sleeping dog" in regards to the potential rematch with EC.  I said after the EC win that it could be tough if they meet again.  Of course EC has to take care of their own business on Sat at Curry.  Of course it could also be said that Curry may be looking for a rematch with Fitchburg after loosing to them early in the year.  Looks like there might be a number of sleeping dogs that are starting to wake up.

Hey 63center,

I actually feel that EC will get by Curry.  They're playing pretty good football with a lot of confidence and would just love to spoil Curry's homecoming just like they did Fitchburg's winning streak.  But, a Curry/Fitchburg matchup could be good.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Popsman on October 18, 2005, 08:40:32 AM
I can't believe that I'm hearing that it's OK for Fitchburg to show such unsportmanship and no class because other teams do it ! ! !  Hey, it's a bad attitude no matter who does it.  I'm not talking about during a game; pretty much anything goes then.  I'm talking about after a game.  Be a good winners & losers and show some respect for opponents. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on October 18, 2005, 08:44:45 AM
I don't think anyone is saying its okay to be bad sports, but at the same time, if you think a team is going to sit there and just have tea with their opponents after the game you must be watching MIT vs Framingham (ouch, but I had to do it.)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctforce on October 18, 2005, 10:49:52 AM
Popsman

Do you think that at the higher levels of college football the same stuff doesn't go on??  If so you must not see/watch much college football.  Thanks Gullgrad for your response!  I am not saying its OK to be bad sports, but some of the stuff we are labeling here on this site as bad sportsmanship is part of the game within the game.  Enough said on this topic.  As I said Fitchburg will just have to be happy being the raiders of the NEFC in your folks eyes while winning this years championship.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bomber Backer on October 18, 2005, 10:54:32 AM
Fitchburg is unclassy, it's as simple as that. It starts with the coach, who players usually take on the personality of. I do, however, think that they do some good things on the field, but it is overshadowed by thier lack of repect for opponents. Bet they didn't do much talking after they got waxed by springfield last season. Also, in my opinion there are two levels of college football. Scholorship and non-scholorship. D2, D3 and even 1 AA non-scholorship players are basically intertchangable.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 18, 2005, 11:29:12 AM
Just because a team has no class or disciplne doesn't mean they can't win. If they have better talent then it doesn't matter how much of poor sports or cry babies they are. They beat Framingham last year 75-0 but had several 15 yard unsportsman-like-conduct penalties. I was just saying they have no class. 2 years ago when they lost of those close games to the top teams in the conference I guerentee they would have won atleast 2 of them if they were disciplined.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 18, 2005, 11:32:17 AM
And it's not like I'm just making stuff up to argue, Fitchburgh has always been know for classless play, cheapshots, whiners, etc....I'm sure other people on this site can back me on this, I'm not the only one saying it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on October 18, 2005, 12:33:32 PM
So Sully, I have time on my hands, I'm at home sick, so I looked at the Fitchburg Framingham game (stats on FSC's site), and there where 2 personal fouls for 15 yards against Fitch and both were after touchdowns (prob for celebrating) and then there was one 15 for facemask.  THer rest of their penalties were holding.  On the other hand, the Framinghamers had 3 PF's in the second half alone, in the middle of drives.  Seems liek you had your information wrong. 
Now I know that Sully likes a tight ship, how could those happen under his watch?

Anyway, lets get back to the ral matter of EC and Curry, who can break this game down??
Title: Re: NEFC school earns honors
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 18, 2005, 01:12:27 PM
Quote from: footballfan2005 on October 18, 2005, 12:15:12 AM
Johnny Utah i picked this out for you:

The Princeton Review says WSC is a  "Best Northeastern College"
Worcester State College was selected by The Princeton Review as a "Best Northeastern College" for the new 2006 edition of its book, The Best Northeastern Colleges (Random House / Princeton Review, August 2, 2005). WSC is one of 224 select colleges and universities in the Northeast to receive this distinction. Worcester State College is the only state college selected in Massachusetts distinguished by this recognition. This is the second year in a row that WSC has been selected.



Yea, I never said worcester st was a bad school, but again you talking about 224 northeast schools.  maybe harvard being the best and who is #224?  I dont know but if youre the 224th ranked school in the northeast, you have 1000 better schools in the country to go to.  I mean thats a lot of schools.

and mass d2 teams wouldnt be great d3 teams, but Bentely is a pretty good football team that could hang with any top d3 east team.  So. Conn is another d2 team that is solid....now there are some really bad  1-aa football programs like sacret heart, siena, canisius.....those schools would be competitive with nefc schools.  At Ithaca we played aic every year when they were the best ne-10 school or at least top 2 or 3.  They were good, we usually beat them but even when Ithaca was winning national championships, aic beat them one of the years.

Fitchburg still has the biggest loss in the history of the nefc........77-0 to the bombers!!!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 18, 2005, 01:33:20 PM
Your argument means nothing gullgrad, penalty's have no say to the outcome of a 75-0 game . It will hurt fitchburgh in a close game, unless this years team is different from the past teams. but from what I'm reading on here they are still the same old punks they've always been...... So you can honestly say Fitchburgh has class and team discipline, gullgrad?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on October 18, 2005, 02:15:58 PM
well, I have only seen them play one time, I went to the FSC EC game last year  and I was rather impressed.  It was billed to be a showdown but FSC crushed EC, and I thought they won with class.  The starters where out in the 4th and they seem to be polite to us EC fans.  Just the one time I know of, but thats that.
I am starting to think that maybe you  are just angry because you attended the lesser of the 2 FSC's? (at least football wise)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 18, 2005, 02:39:00 PM
Gullgrad,

Who the hell are you?  What did you play for EC when they were a club team?? what all of us say is obviously based on are own opinions.... I for one never played in the NEFC... I was in the Liberty League... well what is now the liberty league... and I'm only watching NEFC ball b/c I got a job in worcester... so i've been following since the start of the season... one thing i've noticed is that anyone of these teams prob doesn't deserve to play in the NCAA's they are gunna get smoked in the first round anyways... as for EC and Curry I don't think EC will win the game... granted Curry started of bad but they have been playing well lately and I think this Holleran kid will tear up EC defense... but we'll have to wait a few more days...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 18, 2005, 03:44:07 PM
Looking at penalties is not a good measure of whether a team is "dirty" or "poor sports".  It is how they conduct themselves, when they win and probably more so when they lose.  If you look at the stats, Fitchburg is in the middle of the NEFC regarding penalties, but everyone including me considers them poor sports. There have been several postings on this site about their poor sportsmanship, but you can't rely on penalties as a measure of sportsmanship.    Also classifying a team as poor sports depends on the "eye of the beholder".  As someone mentioned earlier, Curry plays music when the opponent is 3rd and short so that they can't hear the plays.  Is Curry a poor sport because of this?  I don't think it is fair, but I also don't think it is poor sportsmanship.  Just look around at major colleges and the NFL they make a lot of noice to prevent the opponent from hearing.  That is all part of the game and the adnavtage of playing at home.

Regarding the Curry-EC game, I give the advantage to Curry, but I think it will be close.  Curry has a lot going for them that will be tough for EC to overcaome:  Defending NEFC Champs (experience in the "Big Game" as has been mentioned by others before),  Homecoming (although EC has beaten two teams at their homecoming games this year), Home Field advantage (music playing when trying for first down).   I think the EC defense can hold their own, but the offense has got to get started early and keep pressure on the Curry Defense or the EC defense will spend too much time on the field and starting wearing down.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HerbTuck89 on October 18, 2005, 06:23:00 PM
I graduated from a D1 school where football wasn't their top priority and it wasn't always the best.  I've been to all the Fitchburg home games this year and never witnessed the type of behavior that some of you describe on this board.  The games have had a few penalties but none that would warrant the label of the Raiders.  I thought the excitement of the fans and students is what has me rooting for the Falcons.  I've seen how close the coaches, players and parents are.  They have a big tailgate party after the game and everyone is invited.  Coaches, players, parents and friends take part in the tailgate and It looks like they are having a pretty good time. They are trying to take a small college and making it a big time football program, which I think is great. 

You should know that I do a lot of research since that's what my day job is.  If the Falcons have an attitude then they have the right to have one.  They have been the doormat of the NEFC for so long, that now that they are opening the door they are looked at as the BAD guys.  Well maybe some of these other D3 football programs need to start to do something other than complaining.  Framingham if I recall was getting ready to get rid of their football program last year.  They decided to hang in there.  Coach Scully may be trying to get the program off the ground and there is nothing but complaining from some of you posters.  If they make a coaching change there they would have to bring someone in that has the same plan as Fitchburg, Curry and Endicott.  Even maybe hiring one of those head coaches since they seem to be getting the players from outside the Northeast to play for them.

As far as Fitchburg being undisciplined, this year Fitchburg averages 4.5 penalties per game Opponents - 5.  This weekends big D1 Game USC - 9 penalties and Notre Dame - 6  I wouldn't want to go out on the limp here but the numbers speak for themselves.  I also think it's ashamed that a couple of you can really type on this message board.  To say that a Coach has no class is defamatory and should be ignored just from pure ignorance of the writers.  I have met and spoken to Pat Haverty he is well respected by his players and community.  This man works fulltime as a Fitchburg Firemen; part-time as a football coach that puts together practices; watches film and design game plans for the weekend while spending time with his family.  Other than this one time, I will never response to the likes of people who call any person classless.  By the way Girls "UNCLASSY" is not a word.  I would also add that some of you are showing your "CLASS" I know that this board is to be used to discuss D3 football but calling players names should not be one of them.  These guys are people who go to the classroom, workout every day and then give up their weekends for the love of playing a game.  You can continue to bad mouth the competition but you do realize that it means absolutely nothing unless YOU are playing between the lines on Saturday. Let's get back to talking about the skinny on this weekends games and what is going on in the NEFC that's what I registered to do on this board.  I'm off of my SOAPBOX.  Thank you 


I'm still researching the out of state players for Fitchburg.  Do have some very interesting results.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 18, 2005, 07:38:59 PM
Quote from: HerbTuck89 on October 18, 2005, 06:23:00 PM
  I also think it's ashamed that a couple of you can really type on this message board. 



What do you mean?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jeff on October 18, 2005, 08:24:55 PM
where were you with the pom-poms when Fitchburg had a 25+ game losing streak?

My assumption would be that if they had the internet back then and you were around, you would be posting about how horrible the program was...

and are you suggesting that suggesting a coach/player/team/school has 'no class' should simply be ignored or not discussed? 

I mean you have to be kidding me here...do you actually think that this coach or any other coach/player is above critic?  Yikes...

and an open question to the NEFC forum...Why in God's green earth do some schools only play 9-games a year?  WHAT the heck is that?  All this talk of not having enough non-conference games and a simple glance at the schedules leads me to believe that there is at least ONE game where teams could do something extra...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 18, 2005, 08:34:21 PM
they probably have no money to play the extra games....mass state schools are cheap
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 18, 2005, 09:30:37 PM
No one on here as ever said Coach Haverty didn't have any class. I think he is a nice guy, I have met him and talked to him briefly. A coach can't  control every move of his players. His only flaw is that he doesn't punish them when they act like fools. It's not him that has no class sometimes, it's the players.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: retired coach on October 18, 2005, 09:36:59 PM
Just to set the record straight curry only played music during the first game. They still play music but only when play is stopped or timeouts.  I am new to this sight it seems to me a lot of people don't have their facts straight before they sound off.
   
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: retired coach on October 18, 2005, 09:44:26 PM
A coach has to control every move of his players on and off the field  thats part of being a disaplined team.   
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 18, 2005, 11:35:44 PM
Quote from: retired coach on October 18, 2005, 09:36:59 PM
Just to set the record straight curry only played music during the first game. They still play music but only when play is stopped or timeouts.  I am new to this sight it seems to me a lot of people don't have their facts straight before they sound off.
   

Makes perfect sense... I was at the first game and it was total BS... i know that the coach has no control over whomever controls the radio... but the AD or a event staff should have realized what they were doing... I also threw it out there b/c in a big game the home team will do anything to get an edge... as most of you know i feel that EC will lose... but i like to see a fair game played
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Teck on October 19, 2005, 01:30:36 AM
Quote from: Bomber Backer on October 18, 2005, 10:54:32 AM
Fitchburg is unclassy, it's as simple as that. It starts with the coach, who players usually take on the personality of. I do, however, think that they do some good things on the field, but it is overshadowed by thier lack of repect for opponents. Bet they didn't do much talking after they got waxed by springfield last season.
 

Wow, Bomber backer, that's some hateful words to say about somebody I'm pretty sure you don't know. It's never an easy road from the bottom to the top, but there's no reason to make a comment about a guy you don't know. Point in case is that you need to do some thinking before you just start posting such obligatory remarks, grow up.

More importantly, Endicott & Curry coming up this saturday. Seeing Curry play against Fitchburg and Worcester State, and seeing Endicott play Fitchburg, this game is Endicott's to lose. Curry hasn't played like the Curry teams of old. Endicott on the other hand is a fast paced offense that could really deflated Curry's sails in the early going. I think Endicott should pull this one out. I know that Fitchburg would love to get a chance to get back at Endicott for ruining their perfect season. Fitchburg just has to be careful not to slip up and overlook a dangerous Worcester State team. Realistically, WSC vs. Fitchburg at the end of the year is going to be the biggest game of the year in the NEFC, a close second would be Endicott @ Curry.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctforce on October 19, 2005, 07:56:04 AM
Nice post HERBTUCKER89.  It nice to see someone on this board that understands the big picture. 

JEFF, in regards to your post, HERBTUCKER89 is trying to say they are resurrecting the program from that dark period and doing a good job at it.  Lots of college football programs go through down periods with some being worse than others.  Look at Notre Dame.  I think its a credit that Coach Haverty recruited some players that could make a difference and brought them in here to build the program.  It will probably take a couple more years of consistency before all you non-believers will see that it is a good program going on up there.

In regards to the 9 games, I believe it had to do with scheduling restrictions that the NCAA put on DIII schools.  If I understand it corretly, conferences that have a championship game can only schedule 9 games as this championship game counts as their 10th regular season game.  Anymore regular season games would disqualify them from post season.  So, it kind of sucks in that you have to schedule like you're playing in that game even if you don't make it.  Anyways, I think this is the reason but I may be wrong.

In regards to coaches, I have give all the credit to guys like Coach Haverty and his staff that work full time at a regular job and then fulfill the full time position of a college coach.  How many paid guys does Curry have on staff?  3 or 4 I believe.  How about Western Connecticut?  typically a stronger DIII New England program?  I believe they have 4 full timers.  I woill go out on a limb ans say that most of all the powerhouses in DIII are operating with a full time paid & volunteer staff.  So when people blast the NEFC for being weak, look at the whole picture and see why these conferences are comprised they way they are.  These coaches do an excellent job and the players in the NEFC put on some damn good football games!!

The whole Fitchburg tailgate thing was out together to show support for the players and coaching staff for what they do on and off the field and also have a little fun.  As some of you can see, this has grown quickly and I beleiev has really helped the overall 'TEAM' concept.  I know the players and coaches really appreciate it and they are happy to do it at any cost.  Also, this group does a game day raffle and some fundraising in the off-season through the booster organization to help Coach Haverty fund areas of the program that he doesn't get budget money for.  Remeber its a state school.  I know some of these funds paid for them to play Western Connecticut there in 2004 ans to scrimmage them there in 2005 in an effort to play tougher teams to get better.  Sound familiar folks!

OK time to get back to work.  EC over Curry 24 - 21 in a late 4th quarter score!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bomber Backer on October 19, 2005, 09:17:12 AM
Tech, you're right, I don't know Fitchburg's head coach. I am simply judging from what I heard and saw when at Framingham State. As a team I didn't think they had much class and I still don't. Its up to the head coach to teach the players how to conduct themselves in school, on the field, ect. To run a score up and pass the ball when up by 60 points is classless (thanks for correcting me HT89). Would anyone disagree? I understand that being a good head coach might be one of the toughest jobs in this country, coaches have and extraordinary challenge, and worrying about how players conduct themselves may be low on the list. The bottom line is that everything that happens on the football field is ALWAYS the head coach's fault, good or bad. A head coach has to see problem a head of time and correct them before they happen. I am not trying to knock this head coach, judging by the records he has done some amazing things at Fitchburg State. I am saying that sportsmanship is what college athletics is all about, and coaches need to emphasize this. Players are working hard to accomplish a goal together, and when a coach decides he wants to embarrass an opponent by running up the score 75-0, it is a classless act. I also understand that Sully and Haverty have some history, perhaps bad history with each other, maybe that had to do with the score getting run up. The more I think about it I can't blame the Fitchburg players, they are just doing what they are coached to do. I may be wrong because I have only seen Fitchburg State the few times I competed against them, maybe the rest of the league feels differently.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on October 19, 2005, 11:05:11 AM
" To pass the ball when up by 60"

Bomber, I went to the FSC website (Which is awful, great stats, but man, no pictures, no info on the coach, man it is really boring), for the second day in a row, and I went to the FSC v FSC game again, and there was not a pass thrown after the 2nd drive of the second half, I believe that it was not 60-0 then.  They ran the ball and made interceptions.  It just seems as if those guys got a bad rap for playing a game. 
Anyway, I am rather hopeful taht EC can pull off the victory, even though curry has been playing well.  i think the ke y to the game will be the strong curry D-Line vs the average EC oline.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3FAN05 on October 19, 2005, 11:23:28 AM
Gullgrad,

Average EC O-Line? What makes them so "average"?

They are perhaps average in size - only one of the starters in 280+ - but their system seems to be tailored to a smaller, athletic player.

They are second in the conference in rushing and that starts up front. Now, they will have to play a very good D-Line this week to prove that they are as good as the stats say!

This game will definately be won in the "trenches"...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Outsider14 on October 19, 2005, 11:23:48 AM
i can't believe you guys are still talking about that 75-0 game... when a team starts dominating, what do opposing fans talk about? classless, academics, the past... anything to make them feel better. you want classless? how about framingham's team walking onto the field and proceeding w/ warmups during senior introductions w/ their parents. that would motivate anyone true to their school to want to embarrass them. it just makes it easier when the other team turns the ball over repeatedly in their own territory, when the other team's defense already has taken their starters out midway through the 3rd quarter. what's more humiliating: a team running the ball over and over and ending up in the end zone because you can't stop them, or a team downing the ball 4 snaps in a row starting in the 3rd quarter? if that's what it takes for a defense to stop the offense so "kids" don't get embarrassed, then that's just bad football.
also, if "sportsmanship is what college athletics is all about" frank solich wouldn't have been fired from nebraska after a 9 win season, the BCS would invite army and temple for being so kind as to let other teams win and feel good about themselves, and the ivy league would be on national TV every thursday. if sportsmanship is what its all about, don't be in a conference that rewards winners; go join the nescac or whatever conference it is that doesn't allow postseason play.
i know this post may piss some people off, but i get tired of fans attacking teams that beat the crap out of their beloved team on the field (which is what competition is all about) and calling them classless, or attacking academics, or what have you. if you can't take a loss don't play. my last collegiate game, my team was trounced 66-0 when we went into the game thinking we could win and play for it all. after the game (in which the other team was kicking field goals on 2nd down) i went up to their head coach and said "we really respect what you guys are doing here".
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bomber Backer on October 19, 2005, 01:16:25 PM
Come on boys, we've got to talk about something. Whether it be Framingham or whatever else, lets stir the pot and get some controversy going. Let's get the facts out there. I'll def admit the Framingham's performance was embarrassing, as has been their performance for the past few years. Was fitchburg 75 points better than framingham? I'll say that day they were 100 points + better. But come on, Outsider 14, class and sportmanship add credibilty to the game. They take nothing away from outcomes of games, you won't lose more games because you have class or your a good sport.

Looking forward to a good game this weekend, Endicott has chance to really make a statement after having just two losses to qualilty opponents. I think this will give us an idea of how good Curry is. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Teck on October 19, 2005, 03:06:18 PM
Lets put the 75-0 game with Framingham vs. Fitchburg to bed. Just remember that the worst loss in NEFC history was Fitchburg on the losing end of a 77-0 score. There wasn't a pass throw in the second half, and to call a coach classless because he allows for his backups to get into a game is foolish. He was calling all running plays and the kids were just trying to make a statement to their coach that they're ready to step up for the team. It's more then just the players listening to what their coach says, it's also the backups who have worked their hardest all year trying to get some sort of recognition for it. If you can't take losing then don't play football, it's not a teams fault if their opponents are down 60-0 and still can't stop an iso, simple as that.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 19, 2005, 03:11:56 PM
About Curry's D-Line... from what i've heard their d-line might be banged up... The Captain, Bob Rotondo, (DT, 5-10 240) has been playing hurt all season!  Should be a good game... i'm sticking w/my pick and saying that Curry pulls this one out at home
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HerbTuck89 on October 19, 2005, 05:50:17 PM
I would like to see Endicott win this weekend but it may be Curry.  The game will definitely be close.  The other thing about this game is that either team looks like they will be able to coast and get people healthy for the conference game.  This may be the one advantage that they would have to be able to beat the Bogan Division winner.  Worcester State has a very diffcult schedule to contend with and must bring their best to each one.  Fitchburg looks like they have a couple of games to get healthy and be ready for Worcester State. Which I think will be a better game than the Endicott - Curry game this week. 

Looking at some of these out of state players theres a couple of them that have some stuff out on the internet.  I'd like to thank Pat Coleman for giving me the link for the Florida player on Fitchburgs roster #70 McMann but I don't think he's starting yet.  I could be wrong.  I'm looking into the upper classmen. Found info on #25 Milleisen a very good running back that went to a D2 school, looks like West Chester University.  He was heavily recruited.  I couldn't find any other press releases.  Maybe other people can fill in the blanks.  I'm in the middle of looking at #34 Whitehead - NY - Great DB (He's been a little more difficult more so because of his name being very common) He's mentioned in the New England local papers multiple times. #60 Robbins - SC He played D2 at Newberry College in SC Played OL not DL he must have been converted to DL somewhere.  It also looks like his high school career was with a national powerhouse and I found an article about the JF Byrnes high school today that said that the average attendance of a home game is 10,000 people (There has many press releases on Robbins - He has the most - Still looking at some other things)  & #99 Babcock - CT  He looks like he played at D2 Sacred Heart in CT. Still looking at some other things.  But all these guys look like they would have needed some addtional incentatives to play at Fitchburg.  These guys are also mentioned on the Fitchburg site multiple times.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 19, 2005, 06:38:52 PM
Here are picks for the week.

Worcester 21 @ MEM 14 - I give this one to Worcester because I think thye are a better team than MEM and they need the Win to stay in contention for the Bogan.  I think MEM has played a soft schedule so far and after last week's beating, looks like they can't handle the tough competition.

FItchburg 50 @MAM 7 - There is only so much a coach can do to keep the points down and still call it football.

WNEC 10 @UMD 28 - UMD is starting to play the way everyone thought they would earlier in the year and WNEC is up and down this season.

Salve 14 @ BSC 35 - Salve is just no match for Bridgewater.

Westfield 21 @ Framingham 10 - I just can't see Framingham pulling off an upset.

Nichols 10 @ MIT 14 - I don't think Nichols has the horses to get it done this year.  I am not sure if they will win any games.  I heard that their QB got hurt or left the team and they were counting on him to be their offense.

EC 20 @ Curry 17 - I have switched back and forth on this one, but I am going to go with EC in a close down to the wire game.  The stats for these two teams are remarkably close so it could be anybody's game.  The EC defense against the Curry Offense should be good to watch.  The EC offense will have to take advantage and score when they get into the Red Zone and not falter like they have in other games.  Each team will have to take advantage of field position.  This could be USC-ND all over again.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 19, 2005, 07:09:09 PM
The fitchburg st head coach is a firefighter.  Thats pretty admirable but its too bad thats not a full time posisition
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on October 20, 2005, 08:39:46 AM
Wow, he is a firefighter, that is rather cool.  I thought most part time coaches got hooked up somewhere in the school.  What about the rest of that staff, are they all part time?

okay, pick time:

Salve 7, BSC 31, BSC is still hoping for a FSC loss, but they need to win out.

MeMA 24 WSC 21, this is a barn burner, but "the DON" gets it done up in the woods of Maine.

MMA 0 FSC 42, I think Mass is better than we all think, they have a lot of guys in the stat dept. Plus if its wet the FSC QB will prob throw a ton of picks like vs EC.

WNEC 14 UMD 13, WNEC is a decent team, and UMD has had its ups and down, but I like the golden bears in this one.

Nichols 3 MIT 0, I dont think this will be the score, but who will really even watch this one?

West 48, Fram 7, Come on, Fram is not good, Westfield, if they want, will take out their frustrations on a bad team.

EC 28, CC 21, close one, but I need the alma to pull it off.



Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 20, 2005, 09:17:49 AM
Quote from: gullgrad on October 20, 2005, 08:39:46 AM
Wow, he is a firefighter, that is rather cool.  I thought most part time coaches got hooked up somewhere in the school.  What about the rest of that staff, are they all part time?


I would assume so if the head coach is
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Outsider14 on October 20, 2005, 09:44:31 AM
all are part time; from what i've been told, the only person that works full time (paid part time) is the LB coach. comparatively, my alma-mater (ranked in the top 20 every year, usually top 10) has 5 full-time coaches, and 3 part-time coaches that work full time; their other job is resident directors in the various dorms on campus.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on October 20, 2005, 10:05:42 AM
Works full time and paid part time, what kind of idiot does that?

Outsider, where was your career in D3?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Outsider14 on October 20, 2005, 11:15:21 AM
Quote from: gullgrad on October 20, 2005, 10:05:42 AM
Works full time and paid part time, what kind of idiot does that?
65% of coaches in division 3, especially young ones...

my career was at bridgewater college in va for 2 years after spending 3 on the scout team at william & mary
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 20, 2005, 01:05:14 PM
Quote from: gullgrad on October 20, 2005, 10:05:42 AM
Works full time and paid part time, what kind of idiot does that?

Outsider, where was your career in D3?

Im pretty sure he gets paid full time and paid part time.  Firefighters only work like 8 times a month anyway and can swap sometimes whenever they want
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: warrior on October 20, 2005, 07:54:02 PM
Hey sully, i'm new to this page, but i must agree that fram state is a messed up place right now.   i know you concetrate on football, but all the sports programs are in disarray.   the pres and vp's could care less about sports.  Football is the marque sport that should bring athletes into the school.  if you look at the program, there's not to many athletes on the field.  the AD has done nothing, the asst. AD is a detriment to all the programs. it's a joke.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 20, 2005, 07:58:54 PM
Pat C., can we get an IP adress check on this page????
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: warrior on October 20, 2005, 08:09:36 PM
Hey. look div iii is div iii, no scholarships etc.   but when you stand on the side lines and one state school is hammering another state school, as an admin., doesn't a bell go off in youre head!   why can one crush the other, after all their all state colleges.  it all comes down to leadership in the athletic dept., strong leader - strong programs.  i heard at fram state that they have turned over almost 40 thats right 4 - 0 head coaches in seven years.  WHO or what is driving these coaches out!.   think about it!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: br7o7wn on October 20, 2005, 08:17:43 PM
Correct me if I am wrong Warrior, but did you state that Framingham Sate has turned over 40 coaches in 7 years?? I think that is an exaggeration. However, they have definitely burned through them...a couple were very good coaches that moved on after 1 year (obviously they saw the big picture quickly.) 2 of them could've easily taken the HC position and probably improved the program drastically...unfortunately they had no interest in ruining their careers!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Foss on October 20, 2005, 08:32:16 PM
jonny utah, I think your question was overlooked on the NWC board regarding how this year's Linfield team compares to last year's.

In a nutshell, Linfield is probably about the same as last season. Almost everyone is back so that is a big reason why. Some of the offensive players have said they don't think they have hit quite the same stride as they had by this time last season. The defense is noticably better. So I think the net result is about equal to last year. Obviously, the 'Cat fans are hoping for the same end result this season.  :) There will be major losses (and not just Elliott) to graduation after this year. Hope that helps.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: warrior on October 20, 2005, 08:35:18 PM
br7o, i heard that in all sports, almost 40 head coaches in seven years,   very reliable source
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 20, 2005, 09:51:44 PM
Warrior you're right that the Pres down to the asst. AD don't do sh*t for the sports programs, however not al teams are messed up. Men's basketball got to the finals last year, women's soccer always wins theur conference, and baseball is always decent. Football however is terrible and I really beleive if they ever got a coach that knew what he was doing then they could be successful.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: skylineguru on October 20, 2005, 10:44:56 PM
Quote from: SullyMustGo on October 20, 2005, 09:51:44 PM
Warrior you're right that the Pres down to the asst. AD don't do sh*t for the sports programs, however not al teams are messed up. Men's basketball got to the finals last year, women's soccer always wins theur conference, and baseball is always decent. Football however is terrible and I really beleive if they ever got a coach that knew what he was doing then they could be successful.

Interesting; back-to-back 9-19 baseball seasons are decent? That's an insult to everybody's intelligence on this board for even giving them that rosy, but false, analysis. They've had one winning season in the last decade... brilliant!

So let's see what the problem is at Framingham... look at who some of the other schools in this conference can bring in; the Nichols and WNEC's of the world have a sport management to attract students. Fitch. St. and Worcester can attract Criminal Justice majors, and the Bridgewater's and Westfield's of the world have Phys. Ed. programs. Bottom line: it doesn't take a study to realize that those kind of programs will always bring in a tougher (physically) student-athlete - period.

Begs some questions of you, Sully-hater: have you played FB or any sport(s) at Framingham before? Have you even been to their campus? Maybe you were a part of the nine-win baseball dynasty? It's very, very difficult to give you benefit of the doubt here when your so-called facts are baseless, at best. You couldn't do a better job than the AD/Asst. AD, or any coach who sets foot on this campus - not if you recruit/scout the way you research/tell us on this board the WRONG things about what the situation at Framingham really is.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 20, 2005, 11:10:31 PM
I played there and started at framingham for four years. And yes I lived there all four years. The baseball team made the playoffs within the past 3 years, the are always competitive.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 20, 2005, 11:12:38 PM
I said the baseball team was decent, I didnt say there record because I didn;t knwo it. I said they were decent and they are. Last year they were below average but before that they were ok. But who cares this is a football website. Read my past quotes they all hold merit and are all true. All I was trying to prove is that not all the sports at Framingham are bad. Like I said look at the B-Ball team, Women's soccer, and the baseball coach has been there awhile, probly the longest coach tenure there and he is full-time.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: warrior on October 21, 2005, 07:57:59 AM
Fellas, i think we're missing the point, it doesn't matter full-time or part -time.  If you can't get players through the door (fram ST) you can win period.   Why are those players rejected at Fram, but get into Worc, fitch etc.   get the drift.  Also mr golden foot,  record don't always reflect a quality team.  u can play abunch of nobodies an go 100 -0, useless.  quality schedule 50 - 50 , don't judge by record alone
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: warrior on October 21, 2005, 08:01:31 AM
golden foot, if you read sullies past comment, it sound like he has done more than just step foot on thr Fram campus.   Sully is right on the mark with his comment,  I heard it form more than one very reliable source.  so take this for what its worth
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: warrior on October 21, 2005, 08:11:20 AM
golden foot, i know this is a football site, but i did research also and YOU need to get your facts straight also.  baseball last 10 years dating back t0 1995 records
17-16, 23-12, 23-12, 17-13, 17-14 those look like winning seasons to me!  sull knows the facts   now back to football
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ktroutvon on October 21, 2005, 09:20:06 AM
  I have to agree with Johnny Utah's request to the Guru. 

  Otherwise, I am going to come up with 15 codenames and hype Hobart all over the message boards.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 21, 2005, 10:27:18 AM
Thanks warrior... Anyway I'll have my picks for the week a little later.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 21, 2005, 11:05:15 AM
Johnny, ktrout, it passed immediate inspection. I continue to monitor for future evidence.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 21, 2005, 04:29:35 PM
Worcester 17  Maine Maritime 28

Fitchburg 47   Mass Maritime 7

WNEC 14    UMass Dartmouth 13

Salve Regina 14  Bridgewater 31

Westfield 38  Framingham 14

Endicott 24  Curry 21

Nichols  20  MIT 24

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: skylineguru on October 21, 2005, 06:48:04 PM
Gentleman:

Thanks for indirectly helping me make my case.  I stated Framingham is always going to struggle until they get better athletes.  They are always going to have an uphill battle because they don't have majors that attract athletic males.   Without knowing (nor my original intent) you have proved the mentality of the typical Framingham State male athlete.  To say that baseball is "pretty decent" is accepting mediocrity.  Six losing seasons in seven years and a .391 winning percentage is mediocre at best.  I am making an assumption that you enjoyed the baseball program better then the football program and that is well within your right.  But to say things are "pretty decent" then perhaps that mentality is best suited for intramural participation.

I know we are comparing apples and oranges here and this is football site, but people have opened the door by speaking about the success of Framingham State baseball.    Please concede that fact that a .391 winning percentage over the past seven seasons is nothing to hang your hat on.  Feel free to attach a word to it.  If you can't come up with one, I'll choose mediocre.

Regardless, let's stop stating the obvious and if you have an attachment to the Framingham State program, let's root for the Rams and focus on the successes of all the programs instead of dishing out blame like it's a piece of grandma's apple pie.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: br7o7wn on October 21, 2005, 10:08:49 PM
Gldnrghtft, you are way out of line! You dragged up an argument about FSC Baseball on a football site. Then you take time to belittle that program as well?? Perhaps you should re-evaluate your presence on this board! Let me ask you this...have you ever poured your heart and soul into a program that just would not improve around you?? Did you commit to a state college that filled you with promises of a state-of-the-art training facility and game field, only to have to train at an off-campus gym and get ready for practices and GAMES in a parking lot!!!! Have you ever done squats until you puked, only to go do another heavier, more intense set afterward...and then see all that focus, energy, and effort flushed down the drain when your coach calls 4 straight incomplete pass plays while having 1st and goal from the 2 yd line and turning the ball over on downs??? I have experienced all those things and many more frustrations while being a  3 year starter at Framingham State College. Now, don't take me for your average NEFC athlete who wants to cry a little...I have played a lot of ball, at almost every level, even coached varsity high school for 2 years. All of us former Rams are speaking out about the FSC situation because we have suffered through years of frustration, and even now after our playing years have past we still must watch in frustation as our beloved Rams fall week after week in embarrassing fashion!!! And I'll tell you this, I could do a better job than the Asst AD and the entire coaching staff..there's not a doubt in mind!!! I will note that I have the utmost respect for the AD Tom Kelley, it was refreshing to play for him as a DL position coach my senior year. Unfortunately, he seems to be outnumbered and worn out by the surrounding administration. Regardless, no matter what anyone says...FSC is, was, and probably will continue to be in shambles until new blood enters the program and infuses new energy and better coaching/recruiting/managing! Now one thing I must clearly state, despite everything that has been said about FSC, I truly cheer for those kids every Saturday and my only wish is for them to win...GO RAMS!!!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 21, 2005, 10:14:06 PM
Quote from: br7o7wn on October 21, 2005, 10:08:49 PM
Gldnrghtft, you are way out of line! You dragged up an argument about FSC Baseball on a football site.

Actually, Sullymustgo brought it up.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: br7o7wn on October 21, 2005, 10:28:30 PM
Unfortuantely Pat you are incorrect. Sully mentioned the other FSC programs, that is true...however I don't remember him debating their winning percentages and 10 year records! So, please can we get back to FOOTBALL!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 22, 2005, 12:47:22 AM
Quote from: SullyMustGo on October 20, 2005, 09:51:44 PM
Men's basketball got to the finals last year, women's soccer always wins theur conference, and baseball is always decent.

Emphasis added. But I guess in your world if someone says something, we're not allowed to challenge it with actual facts, so feel free to ignore me.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 22, 2005, 01:04:22 AM
I mentioned the other programs to make a point that not all of them fail. I never through meaningless stats from 10 years ago. And yes the baseball can be said to be decent and respectable, I never said they were a powerhouse. Just look at all the Framingham sports. Only men's soccer and football are horrible. Every other sport is atleast competitive.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 22, 2005, 01:08:35 AM
I'm sorry. I'll stop.  ???

Also on this very page I stuck up for you when people suggested that you had created an alter ego to agree with your viewpoint. But I'll stop that as well.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 22, 2005, 01:21:27 AM
Also a real gutsy move, editing your post after I had already responded to the part where you accused me of defending everyone who took the opposite view of you.

That isn't even close to true, either.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 22, 2005, 08:03:10 AM
I did it because I'm a nice guy and didn't want to start another stupid non-football related argument , and I didn't know you replied to it already.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 22, 2005, 08:11:02 AM
This site is getting to be like Groundhog Day, the same thing over and over.  FSC is bad at football and they need to get a new coach. I think that about sums it up.  Can we discuss something else for the next 24 hours?  After that I am sure we will get back to FSC and how bad they got beat.

To quote the great Yogi Berra "Its deja vu all over again."
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: br7o7wn on October 22, 2005, 09:10:38 AM
I can agree with that 63Center! As for creating alter egos?? Gimme a break!!! Does anyone over 13 even have time to do that?? I certainly don't! Pat, you are more than welcome to disagree with me...I encourage it  8) Now, what is the weather like up there today?? I always used to wish for the sloppy conditions in late October...mud, rain, trees raining there colorful leaves down on the field...lineman's Hog Heaven!!! Here's my winners for today: Worcester over MaineM, Fitchburg over MassM, Dart over WNEC, BSC over Salve, WSC over FSC, EC over Curry, and Nichols over MIT. We'll see!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 22, 2005, 10:56:18 AM
Quote from: br7o7wn on October 22, 2005, 09:10:38 AM
As for creating alter egos?? Gimme a break!!! Does anyone over 13 even have time to do that??

Unfortunately, yes, it even happened in the conference next door just a couple days ago.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: warrior on October 22, 2005, 01:47:51 PM
Very Well spoken br7o7wn,  you nailed it on the head.   Work hard, give 100% - no one gives a crap. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 22, 2005, 06:02:22 PM
Hats off to Curry, but what a game (21-16).  If it  had not been for a holding call with 50 sec left in the game, it might have been EC celebrating instead of Curry.  EC did dominate in almost all stats except the one that counts, the final score.  The game was a defensive battle with a scoreless 4th quarter. EC missed out on several opportunities inside the Curry 30.  Curry will certainly need to improve their game to beat whoever wins the Bogan division and there is no way they beat anyone outside of the NEFC if they make it to the NCAA.  Curry showed what champions are made of, by refusing to lose.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 22, 2005, 07:42:03 PM
I'm impressed with maine maritime this year, congrats to them. And now it can be said that worcestor is over rated.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 22, 2005, 07:54:59 PM
sully,

the wsc @ maine score was a bit misleading... a big point in the game was in the fourth quater and Maine was up 21-7... WSC rb fumbled the ball as he went into the endzone and the refs called it a touchback... it was a very questionable call... if the refs called that a touch it would have been a whole different ball game... if anyone lost this game it was the WSC coaching staff for their terrible game plan... and the WSC team is still killing themselves w/stupid penalties... none the less hats off to Maine for taking care of business... they have a good running back in #44

As for the division... correct me if I'm wrong... if WSC state manages to beat BSC next week and Fitchburg... a long shot yes... but WSC would win the league...??  If this happened WSC would have 1 in conference loss and fitchburg would have one and then does it go head-to-head??? I would assume.. anyone know
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 22, 2005, 09:10:13 PM
Yea I wasn't at the worcestor game so I don;t know the details, but just seeing that Maine won impressed me. They are having a great season....On the tiebreaker issue, Pat would probly know since he knows everything else.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 22, 2005, 09:50:33 PM
As for Sully being a bad coach... he's a bad coach w/no players... after watching Worcester today it's a shame... b/c they have good athletes... and they had a bad gameplan and terrible play calling...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 23, 2005, 03:28:37 AM
I think any two-team tie is always head-to-head first. That's a given.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Footballmom on October 23, 2005, 09:37:21 AM
This is my first post.  I have been reading your posts for years. My son is a senior at Westfield. Yesterday he played Framingham. They had no where to go when it was halftime. They sat on the ground outside the playing field in the pouring rain.  Maybe if they had better facilities for football they would get better players at Framingham.  I know athletes are supposed to be tough but I felt bad for all the guys.  I do not think Westfield's defense gets enough credit.  They are way up there according to stats in D3.  We need to build on our offense considerably in the next few years.  I think our quarterback has gotten sacked over 20 times maybe more.  What does everyone think?

Football mom
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on October 23, 2005, 10:31:27 AM
The athletic facility is a joke. Although they have the turf....everything else is an embarrasement to the program. Atlleast have a tent like curry for haltime  it reminded me of a highschool game. You are right that Westfield has an outstanding defense. Coach K. does an outstanding job with the defense... The offense is anemic...  I  watch a lot of D3 football in the NEFC... Westfield has outstanding Line backers and they played there heart out all year long.. Fitchburgh Stae game took the wind out of their sails...... Mark P. plays his  heart out there  on offense and is tough as nails....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bearyear on October 23, 2005, 01:35:50 PM
what needs to happen in order for bsc to win the championship?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 23, 2005, 06:47:02 PM
Framingham facilities are really nice which includes the brand new gym, field, locker rooms, etc...but they definitly need something like a tent near the field for halftime.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 23, 2005, 10:05:20 PM
fitchburg would have to lose thier next two games... and BSC would have to win both of their games
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: masher on October 23, 2005, 10:47:52 PM
hey 1st time poster here...big fan of the web site....it's nice to have an area to talk about D3 student athletes who sometimes don't get the recongnition they deserve....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 23, 2005, 11:32:01 PM
And Fitchburgh is not gonna lose this week because guess who they are playing.  I'd like to see soem guesses on here on how many points Fitchburgh is going to score this week.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: masher on October 24, 2005, 11:03:14 PM
well from what i heard framingham played westfield pretty tough, well atleast there defense did. i've seen two framingham games and they have a good defense that are just on the field  way too much. The sad thing is it looks like they got a couple of skill guys who can play on offense, they just don't have any way of getting the ball. I'm not sure if it's the play calling or the QB's...or maybe both. all things considered i see a 44 to 14 rout by fitchburg.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 24, 2005, 11:35:29 PM
Masher, you must have been to the games when they played MIT or Mass Maritime. Check out the scores when they play decent opponents.... I do have to say their defense is way better than their non existant offense, but no way can you say that hey have a good defense.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: retired coach on October 25, 2005, 12:17:02 AM
i think it is pretty funny their is no action on the curry  ec game. Currys defence showed what a champion is made of they fought both ec very good offence and a crew of officals who were deterned to see ec win. An earlier poster said would have won if it was not for a holding call. Holding should have been called on every outside run or pass. They had to call that one it was out in the open ec offensive line was way overmatched by currys d-line. ec offence had no answer for #56 and #52 but hold them. curry will now be able to rest up and get ready to defend their title for a 3peat.   
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on October 25, 2005, 09:24:00 AM
Framingham State is improving. I witness the Westfield game: FSC runs out of the gun the entire time the QB is just ok. and he has a couple decent receivers. He will occassionaly put the ball in the hands of tail back but mostly pass oriented.. Westfield's defense was to tough...FSC defense is ok but Westfields offense is one of the poorest in the league. they average about 10 pts. per game... Other than the new turf at FSC the facilities at the field are atrocious..
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 25, 2005, 10:52:31 AM
Is Framingham any better than they were the past few years or did some teams in the division just get worse? I will answer this for you. Last year Fram scored an avgerage of 8.2 points per game, this year 8.9 points.  No real improvement there, and they havn't played Fitchburgh or Maine yet. They running game last year netted a total of 287 yards as a TEAM for the ENTIRE season. I was shocked when I read that. Never thught it could be that bad. This year they have a little over 300 yards for the season. A little better, but horrible. Now for passing. Framingham, supposably a passing team is worse than last year. They average 128 yards passing a game this year compared to 148 a game last year......Now for the Defense. Fram's run defense last year was 274 yards given up per game, this year 273 and they still havn't played Fitchburgh and Maine like I said.
Now for the big one, total yeards given up. Last year Framingham averaged 430.1 yards against. This year a wopping 456 yards against. Now can you say they are improving? Go check the stats yourself if you doubt me, Framingham is last in every category except pass defense, because no one has to pass against them and pass offense because they are always behind and have to throw the ball. Numbers don't lie.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 25, 2005, 05:06:07 PM
I want to comment on the EC-Curry game.  I don't see how anyone can state that the Curry defense shut down EC when EC rushed for 257 yards and Curry only rushed for 72.  Looks more like EC shut down the Curry running game.  Also, holding can be called on every play in every game at any level if the officials are so inclined.  I don't dispute the holding call at the end of the game and I don't dispute that there were holding calls missed, but they were missed both ways.  There were several times when you could see an EC defended jersey pulled out by the offensive player just to prevent the EC defender from sacking the Curry QB.  Officials calls always depend on which side you are for.  As far as EC getting the breaks, I don't think so.  The defending Champ always gets the benefit of the calls especially when it is their homecoming.

I think both teams played a hard fought contest and nothing should be taken away from that.  Congrats to Curry for another Boyd championship and I am glad that it came down to two teams fighting it out on the field rather than being decided by other games.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: retired coach on October 25, 2005, 09:21:56 PM
i think the curry defence  giving up only 9 points is shutting down the ec offince. you can give up 300 yards rushing but 0 points its still a shutout.
the holding reference was in response to a earler post  that if it wasn't for the call a the end of the game ec would have been celerbrating  instead of curry. i agree that holding could be called on almost any play.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rogershastogo on October 25, 2005, 09:44:39 PM
Framingham needs help we all know that. No numbers and the lack of speed to name a few things, but ripping the players is just wrong.

These guys play hard and many have heart, unlike some of you who write on here. It is easy to write and be critical. I bet many of you never played the game.

The D is better and the O is too, but the play calling is just plain BAD! I have seen better play calling in youth leagues. Next year is going to be better and I hope the school hires someone who can run an offense.

In closing I will say that this team has some good key players, on both sides of the ball. Remember they are very young.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: galvin20 on October 25, 2005, 10:19:56 PM
I'd like to reply to some messages posted at the begining of the season which were about how Curry gets their kids and how Curry has a great academic reputation.  The only academic reputaion I have heard of at Curry is "if you cant get into college, go to Curry". That is how they get their kids.  I have plenty of friends who go there and none of them got into any other schools.  I'm not taking anything away from their play on the field.  They have unbelievable coaching and real athletic kids.  But take a look at the league.  Who is usually on top? Teams with very low acceptance standards like Curry. Who is usually on the bottom? the teams with the highest acceptance standards, take MIT for example.  Im not saying Curry doesn't offer a good education. I am saying pretty much anyone can get into the school, its common knowledge.  Take Salve Regina, they used to smoke d2 teams and go undefeated without a problem when the school had minimal acceptance standards for males as it recently became a coed school.  Now that the acceptance standards are one of the highest in the conference and they had a recent freshmen class of 7 players.  That makes it a lot tougher to compete with a school who lets anyone in and has 100 kids on the team.  I tip my hat to MIT and other schools who have to face the adversity of higher acceptance standards. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 25, 2005, 10:43:05 PM
galvin hate to tell ya buddy but salve aint that hard to get into either.  you need about a 900 to get into salve and about a 1500 to get into mit....big difference there.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 25, 2005, 10:49:12 PM
Rogershastogo....I love the name man. If Sully is staying anohter year or two he could atleast get a new o-coordinater. Rogers does need to be replaced. In no way was I knockng the players personally. I was just defending my statement that the team hasn't improved. I'm not even sure if you meant me, but if you did I wasn't making fun of the players. I know how hard the team works in spite of sully and rogers.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: masher on October 26, 2005, 01:21:56 AM
i think i'm going to check out the framingahm fitchburg game just too see what happens...i'm going to pay close attention to the play calling and the talent they have on the field.......i think we should give credit to curry's defense for slowing down EC's offense. Both of those teams are very well coached and have great athletes on both sides of the ball, either would be deserving to play in the conference tittle game
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: retired coach on October 26, 2005, 08:28:36 AM
so galvin what are you saying good football players arn't to smart or smart kids don't make good football players 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bomber Backer on October 26, 2005, 09:13:40 AM
I can attest to some Framingham State players having heart. Their two captains this year should have been captains last year as well. They play with heart, hopefully they are teaching the young players the same. Leadership is such an important component of a team. Very curious to see how Framingham State will respond this year vs. Fitchburg after last year's debacle.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Wildcat'64 on October 27, 2005, 01:48:33 AM
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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 27, 2005, 08:30:13 AM
This week's picks:

MIT 21 @ Salve 14 - Not sure what's going on at Salve, but I certainly thought thay would be a better team this year and they are not.  MIT has surprised a few teams and I look for them to surprise one more with the win at Salve.

UMD 30 @ MA Maritine 10 - UMD has gotten their act together to string together a few wins and should continue that streak through this weekend.

MEM 35 @ Westfield 7 - Maine will roll over the Wesfield defense for an easy win.

WNEC 0 @ Curry 21 - Curry will put another notch in the win column as they have too many weapons for WNEC.  Curry won't be down after beating EC last week to win the Boyd, so WNEC can't count on that either.

BSC 10 @ Worcester 14 - This is the big game of the week in the NEFC.  I give the nod to Worcester because I think they are the better team and they are at home.

EC 28 @ Nichols 7 - EC will bounce back and get back into the win column at Nichols.  The EC defense will shut down Nichols, but I give Nichols a TD because they have been known to use a trick play on occasion to score.

Fitchburg 72 @ Framingham 7 - I give Framingham 7 points because I think Fitchburg will eventually have mercy on them.  At least the pain is almost over for Framingham.


Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: alleyezonme57 on October 27, 2005, 02:47:01 PM
this is my first post. I dont understand the obsession with Framingham. They are bad and  we all know. How come nobody had anything to say about WNEC Nichols or UMD all teams started off decent but seemed to had hit a wall. I am aware of Nichols qb situation and how it seems everyone is hurt but still no one cares to talk about it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on October 27, 2005, 03:07:20 PM
No NEFC teams in the regional ranking whats up with that?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 27, 2005, 04:52:46 PM
63 Center,

I agree with your pick of WSC over Bridgewater... but i think the score will be a lot higher... i know WSC sucked it up last week in Maine... but I think this one will be a shoot-out... I'd say WSC 49- BSC 35
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 27, 2005, 05:21:57 PM
football2005,  You could be right about the score.  I always consider the score as a relative thing.  If the score is close and low that means I think that the Defenses are good or offensives are bad.  In the BSC-WSC game, I probably should have one for higher scores as these two teams have pretty good offenses.  I am not sure they will reach the scores you predict.  Probably some where between your scoers and mine.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 27, 2005, 07:52:35 PM
MIT 14 @ Salve 17 - *Yawn* *Yawn*

UMD 27 MA Maritine 7-  MAM can't beat a     
    highschool team.

MEM 42 @ Westfield 0 - Only 10 Points against 
    Framingam last week eqauls trouble for
    Westfield.

WNEC 0 @ Curry 21 - Curry mine as well rack
     up the wins now before they get smoked in
     the D3 Tourny. 

BSC 37 @ Worcester 28 - I've liked Bridgwater
    all year. Too much O for Worcestor.

EC 41 @ Nichols 7 -  Endicott will have no
    trouble against extinct Bison.

Fitchburg 127 @ Framingham 0 - Sully begs for
    mercy and Fitchburgh decides not score any
    more points after halftime. Later that night 
    Sully is spotted reading the classifieds for
    pop wearner openings.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: masher on October 27, 2005, 08:17:25 PM
Fitchburg 127 @ Framingham 0 - Sully begs for
    mercy and Fitchburgh decides not score any
    more points after halftime. Later that night 
    Sully is spotted reading the classifieds for
    pop wearner openings.

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Sullymustgo, let's be honest your pretty pathetic! your obsessed with framingham state football and you have a personal vandetta agianst thier head coach. i took the liberty of going back and reading your previous posts, you obvioulys played for him and probably didn't actually play but you were on the roster. I think anything you post on this website is a joke and should be completely disregarded.  I almost feel bad for someone who posts on an average of 2.6 times a day and never has anything positive to say. It's like everyone else has some type of insight on games or on particular teams, while you are here to simply **** on one particular program. Last I heard Framingham state was a pretty good education why don't you grow up a little bit and use it!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 27, 2005, 08:37:10 PM
I was actually a four year starter. He was actually nice to me for the most part. I saw how he treated other teammates of mine though and disagree with his coaching style. Nothing personal about it.  I think there is a major problem with a coach when 99% of the players that have played for him at Framingham hate the guys guts and say he's the worst coach they ever had.... And yes Framingham State has a good education. Also, read my previous posts again, I say some positive things in them.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jeff on October 28, 2005, 04:30:40 PM
sullymust go-

what were your thoughts of AJ, Abe, Alex Tarpey, Luke, Guilmette, Stevie Jordan...

or are you one of them?   :-\
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 28, 2005, 06:24:30 PM
Where are the picks for the week?  It is Friday, that means tomorrow is Sat. which is when the games are played.  Have all you given up already?  It seems like when folks want to bash another team or poster, we can get a lot of postings, but when it comes to the fun of picking the winners each week, no one is interested.   Come on everyone, loosen up and have some fun with your picks.  Maybe someone will pick Framingham to beat Fitchburg so we can all have a good laugh.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: masher on October 28, 2005, 07:28:55 PM
MIT 20 @ Salve 34- the wing t should put up some points

UMD 38 MA Maritine 13- mass gives up too many big plays

MEM 27@ Westfield 14- westfield can keep it respectable with thier D

WNEC 6@ Curry 34 - just another game for curry

BSC 45 @ Worcester 20- keavy is one of the best backs i've seen in this conference in a while

EC 41 @ Nichols 0- EC has too much....nicholos lone bright spot is bryan meuse, might be defensive player of the year

Fitchburg 44 @ Framingham 14- closer then last year but not enough to make a difference
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 29, 2005, 12:15:43 AM
I know them all, some better than others. I didn't play with Tarpley but I hear he was one of the best safety's ever at FSC. Also the same with Stevie  he was a monster at LB. Guilly was an awesome LB, Luke had the most talent out of them all, Abe was the best overall player and athlete of them all, and AJ was a good leader(Alittle too strict but he was a captain)....There were some other excellent players I also played with. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 29, 2005, 06:40:06 PM
sully,

If you think the Framingham coaching staff is bad... you should have seen the WSC and BSC game.  The WSC coaching staff should be apologizing to their players for costing them a run at the championship this year.  Coach Cullen must get the vote for the WORST coach of the year based on the talent he had.  He had a chance to score with 2min left in the game... Cullen has played NOT TO LOSE all year instead of playing to WIN... Cullen has no clue how to coach a CHAMPIONSHIP team...but he decides to play for the fieldgoal instead of the win and runs 3 of the same plays in a row.. went up by 3... then BSC throws up a ball and the WSC db wasn't within 10 yards of the receiver... what the hell type of coaching is that?? you have a 3point lead w/40 secs in the game and you let a wide receiver get behind the db and the saftey... know i think the d-cordinator is good... but he didn't make an adjustment all day on the option and the QB scored from the 7  yard line on the option that killed them all day.

Sully i know how you feel now... after watching a good WSC team lose b/c of stupid coaching... congrats to BSC and to their coaching staff for out coaching WSC coaches... I say again WSC coaches should apologize to their players for not holding up their end of the deal.

CULLEN YOU SUCK & should be FIRED for the display i saw today!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 29, 2005, 06:48:17 PM
and its snowin like crazy in boston now.....what the @$@!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 29, 2005, 06:53:40 PM
so its official ,

Curry vs. Fitchburg for the NEFC championship right??
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: BomberJeff on October 29, 2005, 06:54:59 PM
Quote from: jonny utah on October 29, 2005, 06:53:40 PM
so its official ,

Curry vs. Fitchburg for the NEFC championship right??

Yep.  Neither team can drop out of the lead in their division regardless of what happens next week.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 29, 2005, 07:15:32 PM
I feel for you, nothing ticks me off more than seeing a coach lose the game for his team
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AptosDad on October 30, 2005, 01:38:06 AM
Anyone have the story on why MIT @ Salve Regina wasn't played yesterday, and is now scheduled for today?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 30, 2005, 01:23:52 AM
Field unplayable, I was told.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AptosDad on October 30, 2005, 03:14:45 AM
Thanks, Pat. Many a game have been played in terrible conditions.  This one seems particularly odd because it's now scheduled for one day later, and presumably on the same field.  Have you ever heard of a game being postponed because of field conditions?  Was there any more information on what was wrong? 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on October 30, 2005, 09:01:21 AM
I would have to say it got postponed because Salve's field is used also my Rogers HS athletics.  I think they're trying to save the field from getting torn up as much as possible.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on October 30, 2005, 09:20:54 AM
I read this a lot, but I don't always right stuff, but I got one for ya, how bout ya stop blamin WSC's coaching staff and give credit to the BSC players.  Bascon and Kavey along with the defense all played a sick game, and the quarterback Cam had the best rushing game of his life.  I'm pretty sure that's what won the game not WSC's coaches.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 30, 2005, 09:31:39 AM
does salve still not have a field or lockerooms or any of that stuff????
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HerbTuck89 on October 30, 2005, 09:32:13 AM
Quote from: footballfan2005 on October 29, 2005, 06:40:06 PM
sully,

went up by 3... then BSC throws up a ball and the WSC db wasn't within 10 yards of the receiver... what the hell type of coaching is that?? you have a 3point lead w/40 secs in the game and you let a wide receiver get behind the db and the saftey

Just back into town last night, got caught up with all the post since I left.  First, Football2005 you got to be kidding me.  You just want to make SullyMustGo feel good.  It sounds like he played to win and that the defensive players didn't make it happen.  Coaching is one thing but playing the games is the players deal.  You can win a game by a point.  So losing on the final drive by BSC was the responsibility of the talented players.

Enough of that...  Congrats to Fitchburg and Curry winning their divisions.  Should be a good game in a couple of weeks.  Worcester may win next week because if coaching was going to play a big part Coach Haverty will keep the score down and 2nd/3rd string players should be playing by 2nd qtr.  

Noticed a couple of posts about academics and tuition, which leads me back to my first question earlier in my posts.  Researching the Fitchburg players both tuition and academics should play a part in out of state players playing there.  I will post later on, what I found and how curiosity got the best of me.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Moose50 on October 30, 2005, 10:05:51 AM
First post but an avid reader.  Just want to know how the NEFC can grant to Curry a "neutral" site at their home field on the 12th? Wouldn't it be best for all to go to W'State and avoid the temptation that "Nelson gets all the calls" will bring.  Congrats to Curry & Fitchburg for a great season.  It'll be great game.  F'Burg 24- Curry 17.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 30, 2005, 11:26:19 AM
nah, keep it as close to Boston as you can....more fans, good facility (still kind of small)

no ones goin to worcester to see a nuetral game.  although probably 75% of the fans will be fitchburg or curry people anyway but still.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 30, 2005, 01:26:18 PM
I am not sure how the NEFC determines the site for the NEFC Playoffs, but seems fair that since Curry is the defending champs they should host the game.  If that is not how NEFC decides where to play the championship, maybe they should.  Host the championship at the site of the defending champs, regardless of whether they are playing in the game or not.  I am not a Curry fan, either.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: masher on October 30, 2005, 03:13:00 PM
ok so i went to the fitchburg vs. framingham game and besides what anyone might think about framingham...fitchburg is a complete team. They play offense, defense, and special teams. The only thing i didn't like was fitchburg airing the ball out when they were up 56-0 in the 2nd quarter, the ball got intercepted but that was pretty classless.  They should go on to beat curry. As if iy couldn't get any worse for framingham one of there few offensive threats #9 was out with a torn ligament in his knee (not sure which ligament) and another one of them #35 looked to have banged up his shoulder. Not to mention several other players who were banged up from the pounding fitchburg put on them. Well anyone have a suggestion for what might be a good game this upcoming weekend?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on October 30, 2005, 08:02:12 PM
Hats off to the Westfield state defense... They gave their offense multiple opportunities to win the game over a good Me maritime team,although they played sloppy as well. The D held  THEIR BIG BACK TO ABOUT 40 YDS. Westfields offense had 9 turnovers. Has WSC always been this anemic on offense..
Whats the story.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Footballmom on October 31, 2005, 07:29:03 AM
I was at the Westfield-Maine Maritime game.  Westfield's defense played their hearts out.  The offense let 9 turnovers.  It was pathetic actually. We were in the Red Zone numerous times.  Once on the 1 yard line and once on the 3 yard line and the quarterback threw the ball to the other team.  All the fans and parents couldn't believe it.  Westfield should be up there if it wasn't for the offense.  They are a great bunch of guys but haven't gotten it together.  Oh well.  With all the seniors graduating this year I have no idea what will happen next year.  Maybe we will tie with Framingham for last place. Hats off to the D.  They are the best in the league and top 10 in the country.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: brewskiin05 on October 31, 2005, 09:44:05 AM
three years ago westfield state graduated almost their entire offensive line, two years ago they lost the best quarterback and wide receiver in the schools history. truth be told they simply have never recovered from these two losses. the defense that has played so well this year is the last bunch of guys from those great westfield teams of three years ago. look for westfield to be rebuilding on both sides of the ball for the next couple of years
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 31, 2005, 10:04:16 AM
Quote from: Pimpingold on October 30, 2005, 09:20:54 AM
I read this a lot, but I don't always right stuff, but I got one for ya, how bout ya stop blamin WSC's coaching staff and give credit to the BSC players.  Bascon and Kavey along with the defense all played a sick game, and the quarterback Cam had the best rushing game of his life.  I'm pretty sure that's what won the game not WSC's coaches.

Yes, I agree that BSC players made the plays to win the game... however if the coaching of WSC prepared their players a receiver would have never gotten behind a saftey and a corner... secondly, the option was working all second half and WSC defensive staff never made an adjustment... it would have been a simple adjustment.. hit the frickin qb on every option.

What pisses me off more than anything is Cullen's game plan of playing not to lose! He has the ball w/first and 10 at the 14 yard line with 2min to play in the game and runs the same play 3 times in a row to play for the fieldgoal and 3 point lead... that's what you call playing NOT to LOSE... The way BSC college was throwing the ball deep all day i wasn't very comfortable w/a 3point lead... esp. since the db's from WSC have been getting beat long all game and all year long.

So to answer your question or statement; yes the BSC players made the plays to win the game... but if the WSC coaching staff had their heads out of their asses the BSC players wouldn't have been in a position to win that game!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Popsman on October 31, 2005, 11:38:32 PM
There's a lot of criticism of coaches on these pages.   The WSC - BSC game was not won or lost by any of the coaches.    WSC lost 3 fumbles  BSC lost 2 or 3.   WSC threw three interceptions.   BSC had a TD called back on a penalty.   I can't see any of that a coaches fault. 

The rap that WSC didn't adjust to the option is easy to say after the game is over.   Obviously, the game plan was to stop Kavey and stop the QB from pitching it to him.  Which they did.  Kavey had 130 yds, 71 on one run so the WSC defense came thru.   

That game and most games are won  or lost by the players on the field.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Moose50 on November 01, 2005, 08:20:27 AM
just a thought, who is going to play for the win this week @ fitchburg vs wsc?  should haverty rest the starters and hope for the best or should cullen try to get some respect after last weeks debacle and try to beat fitchburg?  likewise, what should nelson do? i hear that one of his best players may have left the team, rb, don't know his name and maybe he wats to get on a roll
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fballking19 on November 01, 2005, 10:36:46 AM
I have read in some of the posts written on this board, "that Salve was supposed to be good this year". A good Salve football team will be an impossibilty as long as the current coaching staff is in place. Arthur Bell might be the worst division 3 football coach in America, Salve currently has 4 recievers over 6'2 and are playing a wing T offense that features only one reciever at a time in some instances. The facilities at Salve do not hold a candle to the likes of Curry and Endicott, they play on a high school field without lockerrooms. As long as the administration at the school leaves the team high and dry in terms of competitive accomadations and the coach continues to preach ignorance Salve will continue to fight M.I.T for last place in the NEFC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 01, 2005, 10:43:13 AM
Is that the same Art Bell that coached at Mansfield in the 1990s?   Those mansfield teams let up like 70 points a game
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: coachzilly on November 01, 2005, 11:15:11 AM
Art Bell is former RI high school coach who was an assistant to former Salve headcoach Tim Coen.  He has continued the use of the wing-t that Coen ran, without the same caliber of player, therefor without the same success.  Salve featured many of RI's top high school prospects, many of whom now head to DII Bryant or to 1AA or DI's.  Kids like Will Blackman and Jamie Silva at BC, Steve Silva at Holy Cross and Liam Coen, Tim's son at UMass are now moving on and up.  In the 90's many of these types may have played at Salve.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on November 02, 2005, 01:04:49 AM
Quote from: Popsman on October 31, 2005, 11:38:32 PM
 

The rap that WSC didn't adjust to the option is easy to say after the game is over.   Obviously, the game plan was to stop Kavey and stop the QB from pitching it to him.  Which they did.  Kavey had 130 yds, 71 on one run so the WSC defense came thru.   


When you play the option the de-end should hit the qb everyplay and the outside linebacker plays the tailback... The main objective is to knock the qb out of the game or hit him so much his game is effected... Your telling me that allowing a receiver to be behind a cb and  a saftey w/under a minute isn't bad coaching?  If that doesn't qualify then what does?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on November 02, 2005, 09:28:49 AM
I've seen both teams play twice.. Worccester State and Bridgewater state.. Both good teams but BSC more balanced on offense and not as one dimensional. WSC Qb is not really a threat to run ball like BSC qb. BSC had there chance against FSC  but no cigar. Westfield LBs: the best in the league and all should be nominated to post season honors.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bomber Backer on November 02, 2005, 11:09:27 AM
Is it bad coaching to let the WR get behind the CB with a minute to play? I would say that it is bad playing. I can't see the coach coaching the corner and safety to let the WR behind him, come on. Let's stop complaining about the coaches so much on this post and put a little blame on the players. Obviously the coach has to put players in a position to be successful, but players have to execute the play. Maybe that corner and safety bit on the option, perhaps they didn't prepare as much as they should, who knows. In a conference of inferior talent as a whole, players are going to make mistakes. It's hard to recover from mistakes when you have limited talent.

What a dominating performance by Fitchburg this past weekend. From looking at the stats the Fitchburg coaches decided to send a message in response to people (myself included) talking about passing the ball too much the previous year while having a big lead. I think they only passed the ball 6 times and totally dominated Fram with the run.

Good luck to FSC and Curry in the championship game. Lets hope one of them can go on and get a playoff win and bring credibility to this conference.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 02, 2005, 11:59:32 AM
I agree Bomber Backer,  the coaches can tell a player what to do but it is up to the  player to execute the play.  Just like a teacher can teach people to spell and use proper grammar, but it is up to the people posting to Post Patterns to properly spell and use proper grammar.  I have witnessed many instances, including twice over the past week where a coach yelled from the sidelines to tell players what they were to do (e.g., watch for a fake punt) and still the players did not react to the fake punt.  There is only so much a coach can do.  Also as far as letting a receiver get behind the cb or safety, by the time a player gets to college level football, even if it is D3 and the NEFC, they should know that towards the end of a close game you don't let anyone get behind you.  They should not have to be told by the coach.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctforce on November 02, 2005, 01:11:24 PM
I want to start out by saying something has to be done at Framingham.  I have all the respect in the world for those players going out on the field every week to play in games were they will be totally dominated.  This was extremly evident this past weekend.  How can you play college football with only 38 players suited?  Plus, they were outmatched physically, atheltically and fundamentally in all areas of the game.  I do not mean that as any disrespect to the players that were out there giving it they're all.  I respect them for being out here.  It's just that they are at a significant level below even the majority of our league.  It seemed like every play one of their players were getting hurt, but they had to go back in beacuse of the lack of numbers.  It isn't right to put these athletes in this type of situation.  This program definetly needs a huge upgrade in talent and coaching.  Again, I know they played their butts off and are probably performing the best they can at their level, but, if you were at the game and witnessed the legal hits they took you would see what I mean. 

Now, lets give credit were credit is due.  Other than the one pass while way up,  Fitchburg show some class and rotated the starters out very early in this game.  The starting D-line dominated early and were shelved by the second quarter.  The rest of the defense, except for a position or 2 were into the 3rd string by the end of the second quarter and the same goes for the offense.  The dominated early and were removed early.  None of these guys played in the second half and Fitchburg still pretty dominated them.  I think this shows a lot of sportsmanship/class on Coach Haverty and his staff's part.  While talking about coaching sportsmanship, despite calling off the dogs early in this one, I'm told that Sully would not shake Coach Haverty's hand when going through the line.  If true, whats that all about?

So, its Fitchburg and Curry.  How the heck does Curry get the home game here!  I understand that schools put in for this game in advance not knowing if they'll be in the game, but having a home field advantage in conference championship game is not right.  [b]NEFC, you need to look at your policies and ensure this game is always played at a neutral sight.[/b]

OK, so with that game decided, does Fitchburg go for the win over Worcester to outright own the MASCAC title or do they rest key players down the stretch in preps for Curry?  Remember last year, some key injuries that were sustained in the Worcester game played a factor in the championship game.  Could be an interesting game from this standpoint!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 02, 2005, 02:23:33 PM
I think that Fitchburg will play to win for two reasons: (1) to go into the championship game on a high note, and (2) they rested starters last week against Framingham and will want to make sure that they work off the rustiness.  Who knows maybe they will get a big enough lead against WSC that they can rest the starters some more. 

As far as the game being played at a neutral site maybe the NEFC should see if they could use Gillette Stadium in Foxboro.  If Framingham had better facilities they could just schedule it there since there is little chance of them playing in the play-offs.  I agree it would be nice if it were played on a neutral field, but it appears to be too late for this year.  It should be a good game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 02, 2005, 06:54:19 PM
Quote from: 63Center on November 02, 2005, 02:23:33 PM
I think that Fitchburg will play to win for two reasons: (1) to go into the championship game on a high note, and (2) they rested starters last week against Framingham and will want to make sure that they work off the rustiness.  Who knows maybe they will get a big enough lead against WSC that they can rest the starters some more. 

As far as the game being played at a neutral site maybe the NEFC should see if they could use Gillette Stadium in Foxboro.  If Framingham had better facilities they could just schedule it there since there is little chance of them playing in the play-offs.  I agree it would be nice if it were played on a neutral field, but it appears to be too late for this year.  It should be a good game.

HA! Gilette Stadium for the NEFC Championship.....Now thats funny.  Seriously, thats one of the funniest ideas Ive ever seen on this website.

Seriously, Legion Field in Framingham would be a good start.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 02, 2005, 07:34:18 PM
johnny utah, Glad you appreciated my sense of humor.  I think this site needs a little levity some times.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 03, 2005, 08:05:14 AM
Picks for the last week of the regular season:

MA Marintine 14 @ BSC 35 - MAM has nothing to slow down BSC.

Curry 38 @Westfield 7 - Curry will play 2nd string most of the 2nd half to get ready for the big game next week.

MIT 0 @ EC 27  - Last home game for the Seniors that started the football program at EC 4 years ago.  They will be ready to let loose on MIT and look for ECAC invitation.

Framingham 7 @ ME Maritine 50  - the score says it all.

UMD 21 @ Salve 10 - This could be a close game, but I think UMD has been playing much better lately and will handle Salve.

Nichols 27 @ WNEC 24 - I think Nichols will finally get in the win column to close out the year.  Disappointing year for WNEC.

WSC 21 @ FSC 35 - I don't think this one will be the big game it was originally billed as.  Of course this all depends on whether FSC plys the starters or rest them for the NEFC Championship.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Daddio on November 03, 2005, 04:25:50 PM
Who do you think will get an ECAC invitation from this conference?

I would think that Bridgewater gets one before Endicot....If Fitchburg loses this week, Bridgewater will end up with the best record in the entire conference....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 03, 2005, 06:46:29 PM
One thing that can hurt BSC in getting invited to the ECAC is they did not play any non-conference games.  The ECAC looks at who you play as well as records.  Last year UM was invited and they finished 3rd in the Boyd division.  There is a lot that goes into the selection process.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Moose50 on November 03, 2005, 08:06:54 PM
I'm fairly new to this but who will get the playoff bid if fitchburg wins? will fitchburg automatically go in as a league champion or does it go to who teams play in and out of their divisions?  I know that bridgewater may have a better overall record but doesn't who wins the league count in this?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 03, 2005, 08:09:25 PM
Fitchburg goes because they played in the NEFC championship and won it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on November 04, 2005, 04:47:22 PM
Here my picks...Not much time for my analysis but here they are:

MA Marintine 7 @ BSC 56

Curry 28 @ Westfield 0

MIT 7 @ Endicott 33 

Framingham 0 @ ME Maritine 66...  Hopefully
     Sully's last game coaching for Framingham

UMD 13 @ Salve 14

Nichols 17 @ WNEC 21

WSC 27 @ FSC 31
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 04, 2005, 07:05:37 PM
Quote from: Moose50 on November 03, 2005, 08:06:54 PM
I'm fairly new to this but who will get the playoff bid if fitchburg wins? will fitchburg automatically go in as a league champion or does it go to who teams play in and out of their divisions?  I know that bridgewater may have a better overall record but doesn't who wins the league count in this?

Moose50, I assume you are inquiring about who represents the NEFC in the NCAA tournament.  Thet goes to the winner of the NEFC Championship game between Curry and Fitchburg played next Sat.  If you are inquiring about who from the NEFC goes to the ECAC game, that is up to the ECAC selection committee which considers a number of factors including record and the competition.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: igottaknowwhatsup on November 05, 2005, 11:44:02 AM
sullymustgo i have played for sully and believe i have good enough connections to get ride of him. i have eligiblity and can only play if sully is no longer coachin due to my situation. please step forward and help me and the rest of the framingham football program.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on November 05, 2005, 07:05:21 PM
Igottaknow, what do you want me to do.  If the team spoke up they would get rid of him but they are scared to.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fballking19 on November 06, 2005, 11:54:54 AM
Congratulations to Art Bell and his fourth consecutive two win season. Who will the loser of the championship game play in ECAC's?
Title: Fitchburg State Players
Post by: HerbTuck89 on November 07, 2005, 10:17:42 PM
I had mentioned in earlier posts about how and why players play as Fitchburg State.  There was discussion on the board about in-state / out of state tuition which at FSC cost a lot if your out of state.  Brian Millisen RB is from New York with his college career starting at a college in NY and then transferring from there to go to FSC.  Which for FSC was a very good move.  Then you had Dee Whitehead who is from Brooklyn NY and he has very good success at FSU.  Matt Babcock from Griswold CT DL which played at a Sacred Heart Div Ia has a great academic record.  Recruited out of Griswold High School.  Then there is Nick Robbins DL.  I had mentioned that he was recruited out of Byrnes HS a national football powerhouse. He was an MVP of the week in a playoff game.  He also was Offensive Lineman of the Year.  He had gone to Newberry College DII on a scholarship as an OL was converted there to DL.  I had the opportunity to chat with someone from Byrnes HS in a chatroom.  They said that Nick was also a very good wrestler - All region / ranked 4th in the state and wrestler in national tournment coming in 7th.  My question on all of the players is how do they come to Fitchburg and what financial options do they have since these 4 could have scholarships at other schools?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on November 08, 2005, 12:32:34 AM
I would guess they either have a hard time keeping grades, maybe they dont want to go through year round training like in D1AA or even 2, maybe get in trouble, and lastly maybe they just arnt good enough too start at the bigger schools and would rather beable to start everygame they play in D3.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 08, 2005, 06:42:49 PM
herbtuck, Id be pretty sure that if theyre playing for Fitchburg St, they probably werent scholorship players and didnt have scholorship opportunities at other schools/
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rogershastogo on November 08, 2005, 07:36:58 PM
Is it true that Fitchburg takes all other schools dropout? I was told this. Is this true?  Most Jocks who can not make other schools requirements end up there.  Please tell me I'm not wrong!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 09, 2005, 12:09:48 AM
Curious -- how many usernames do you need? You have four now.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 09, 2005, 06:59:38 AM
way to go Pat!!! come on, what are the stats? (names)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctforce on November 09, 2005, 07:35:53 AM
Quote from: rogershastogo on November 08, 2005, 07:36:58 PM
Is it true that Fitchburg takes all other schools dropout? I was told this. Is this true?  Most Jocks who can not make other schools requirements end up there.  Please tell me I'm not wrong!


Yes, you are wrong!  I know people (athletes) who have been turned away because the did not meet the transfer or freshman entrance requirements.  I also know of many athletes who no longer play because they didn't keep their grades at a level to be eligible.  As a state school, they adhere to their admission requirements and do not take athletes just because they are an athlete.  There may be an isolated case were there is an execption granted to an athlete, where the pats academics are taken into consideration, not juts being an athlete.   Hey, imagine that!  Education being placed just as high if not higher than the athletics!  Sounds like they'r e doinf the right thing here.  I certainly would take a look at the private schools (Curry) who can manipualte any and all requirements for athletes and seem to have the uncanny ability to recue the tuition with some very unique 'grants'.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctforce on November 09, 2005, 08:02:27 AM
OK, now on the transfer situation at Fitchburg.    I know there is a group of players that came to Fitchburg from UMASS Lowell when that program was dropped.  I know one of the players that HerbTuck89 referenced transferred from a higher level program because first, he changed his major and Fitchburg had a strong program in his current major and second, even though he would have initially been a role player and a major contributor by his senior year, he wanted to go to program where he could contribute, get a good education, and enjoy the whole experience.  Plus, the head coach that recruited him, left for a better job in 1A just after he signed his letter of intent, and the coach that got the job was real #*@ hole.  In fact, he was fired after his second year of destroying an undefeated team.   And, yes, as much as I hate to agree with SullyMustGo, other transfers may have had playing time as reason for their transfer.  The one thing that is being missed here is how are they convinced to come here?  I think a ton of credit has to be given to Coach Haverty and his staff in the recruitment area.  They have the uncanny ability to find out about  possible transfer players that are out there and convince them to come to Fitchburg intially to build a winning program, and now that they are ready to establish the program as a winner, to continue the tradition.  As we all know "winning brings success"!  And we all know that athletes will start to look stronger at a quality winning program that offers a good education like Fitchburg!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on November 09, 2005, 09:23:48 AM
Pat are you talking about me with the usernames? Rogershasto go is not me by the way. You have something to do with this site I'm sure u have a way to figure out it is not me. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HerbTuck89 on November 09, 2005, 11:52:45 AM
CTForce,

Your right about the player he is from Sacred Heart.  I do apologize that I spent a little bit more time on researching Robbins but because of his location and high school I was more interested on how these guys get recruited.  He did have a scholarship at Newberry being released from it to transfer to Fitchburg.  The other guys also did have some sort of scholarships at their previous schools.  Is this an ongoing trend in Div III?  Is Coach Haverty going to continue recruiting in other states like Florida/South Carolina. He must have done a great job convincing these guys to come here.  I hope that he continues because as you said "winning brings success" which Fitchburg wasn't very successful until Coach Haverty took over.   
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 09, 2005, 09:20:46 PM
Quote from: SullyMustGo on November 09, 2005, 09:23:48 AM
Pat are you talking about me with the usernames? Rogershasto go is not me by the way. You have something to do with this site I'm sure u have a way to figure out it is not me. 

Don't be so paranoid. I never said I was talking about you.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bignefcfan15 on November 09, 2005, 10:55:31 PM
Since its the end of the season, how about some perdictions for NEFC players of the year? I'll start.... Offense- Ben Bascon, WR from BSC. When he decides to kick it into high gear, it makes BSC's offense damn near impossible to stop. Defense- Frank Famularo, LB from FitSC. Could have won it last year if it wasn't for Robitile again. Watching FSC's d, he really seems to be unstopable and always making big plays to help his team win.
Just my .02 to get something else started up, what you guys think? Looking forward to the championship game. -Cheers.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3FAN05 on November 09, 2005, 11:45:10 PM
How about Thibodeau from Maine Maritime? Pretty big numbers and the team had a good year.

On another topic - who is getting ECAC bids from the NEFC this year? It looks like Bridgewater, Endicott and Fitchburg (if they lose) are all serious contenders.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Moose50 on November 10, 2005, 08:45:13 AM
As a fairly new poster, I have trouble with the issues that have been brought up about the FSC program.  If a kid finds a "comfort zone" with a coach and his staff, then why question why the kid wants to go there.  I know that some freshman in the program made "ED's or early descisions" to attend FSC simply because of what Coach Haverty and his staff presented to them and their parents.  Some of these kids were highly recruited by other D2 & D3 schools but found that the program @ FSC was more to their liking.  So what if a kid wants to play "all the time", let them play.  I think that some are getting education and athletics mixed up here.  When the poster brings up issues about finances, that's going way over the edge.

A player on a championship team, no matter where he is from, deserves only accolades on his and his teams' accomplishments, not the negativity that some want to bring out.

Now for the NEFC championship game: FSC's defense has gotten better every week but so has Curry's.  I think that he game will be closer than the first game, 28-13 FSC but in the end, it will be FSC 28- Curry 17.  As for playoff bids: FSC goes to the NCAA's as a champion but I think it will be B'water & Endicott as the ECAC selections.  I read that the "selection show" for the D3 playoff bids will be on ESPN2 on Sunday the 13th starting a little after 1:00.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bignefcfan15 on November 10, 2005, 09:32:17 AM
Quote from: D3FAN05 on November 09, 2005, 11:45:10 PM
How about Thibodeau from Maine Maritime? Pretty big numbers and the team had a good year.

Good point, he was my second pick along w/ Crowley MLB from Curry for 2nd defense.

After attending fitchburg's game last week at their new field, it looks like FSC will have another great recruiting weapon, that field is gorgeous. Needs more seating, but the school is showing they are really supporting their sports programs unlike some other schools  :-\
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bignefcfan15 on November 10, 2005, 09:33:54 AM
Sorry, still new at this.
-From Good point on..... Was my reply, not the other person's quote.-Cheers.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 10, 2005, 06:06:28 PM
I realize that Bryan Mouse plays for a losing team (Nichols) but how can you not consider a kid that has 143 tackles, averages almost 16 per game with 4 sacks for defensive player of the year.  Of course he is the entire Nichols defense, so that may be a factor. 

I agree that Thibodeau may be one of the best running backs in the league, but one that hasn't been mentioned yet and that is right near the top of the NEFC in total yards is Gerard Festa from Endicott.  He is listed 3rd in total yards in the NEFC. 

I think that I will go with Curry to win the NEFC for the following reasons: (1) playing at home, (2) defending champs, (3) revenge for earlier loss.  I think Curry has a better defense than FSC and the offenses are about equal.  I do think it wil be close.  I go with Curry 21-17.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: GoodDoc24 on November 10, 2005, 08:36:13 PM
Kavey from Bridgewater State probably has to be the front runner for Offensive Player of the Year.  Second in rushing this season and easily leads the conference in touchdowns (20) and scoring (122 points).

I would have a difficult time giving Defensive Player of the Year honors to the kid from Nichols.  Not taking away anything from what he accomplished with all those tackles, but as a team they were awful.  And that has to be taken into consideration. 

Jim Fennelly at Westfield, Famularo at Fitchburg, and Bridgewater's Sirignano are some pretty good candidates.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CtLb on November 11, 2005, 01:55:20 PM
The idea that FSC takes "drop outs" is insulting, most of the transfers on the team are there for a reason. Ones mentioned Nick Robbins no longer even lives in North Carolina, him and his family moved to New England that's why he is at FSC. Dee Whitehead was at Marshall not FSU, and transferred to FSC because a friend of his who also went to Marshall went to FSC to play football due to the lack of success at the d1 level. Matt Babcock transferred to FSC, due nagging injuries and the pressure of d1aa football, and there are no d3 teams in ct other than WestConn and some of the coaches at that school can be hard to deal with. So please don't look at FSC as a dump off station for in d1 or d2. The student athletes that attend FSC are there for a reason, play football and go to school. The coaching staff does a great job with helping the players and their families make the right decision. Is FSC successes because we have a lot of transfers? The answer is no, FSC is a good team because of coaching, hard work, dedication to a cause and willingness to overcome adversity. Don't forget FSC was at a high school field for all of the home games due, now if your telling me that a D1 kid wants to play at a high school field then you need to reconsider why they might be at FSC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Popsman on November 11, 2005, 03:37:57 PM
I'm surprised most people are picking Curry to win the NEFC. 
Fitchburg beat them 28 - 13 (although early in season). 
Fitchburg was 6-0 in the tougher Bogan Div  >>>  BSC, Worcester, Maine.  Curry was also 6 - 0 but only Endicot in the Boyd as competition.
Endicot beat Fitchburg 21 - 7 and Curry beat Endicot 21 - 16.
But Maine beat Curry 28 - 21 and Fitchburg beat Maine 21 - 0.
What 's it all mean ???
My pick is Fitchburg.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bignefcfan15 on November 11, 2005, 11:27:46 PM
Quote from: 63Center on November 10, 2005, 06:06:28 PM
I think Curry has a better defense than FSC and the offenses are about equal.  I do think it wil be close.
I agree the game will be close but I do not agree that Curry has the better defense. Look at the stats, fitchburg has allowed the fewest points (111) in both the boyd and bogan. However, playing at Curry ( a beautiful neutral site) I feel Curry wins, low scoring game:
Curry-21
FSC-  17
*Good luck to both teams, can't wait to watch the game.-Cheers
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Teck on November 12, 2005, 07:01:47 AM
Fitchburg State has the best defense in the NEFC, look at the statistics, not to mention if anyone has seen the intensity they play with....Curry did a better job at stopping a very potent Endicott offense, but Curry themseles are an I-pro team, whih Fitchburg hasn't had any problems with as of yet...good game today I can't wait to see it unfold
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HerbTuck89 on November 12, 2005, 07:25:56 AM
Just want to make it clear - I was not dissing any players for going to Fitchburg.  Robbins was in South Carolina and he was release from his football scholarship to play at Fitchburg.  If his family moved to Fitchburg then I understand.  I was just wondering why players come from out of state to play at FSC from other schools.  Don't get me wrong I'm glad that they did come because as TECK said their defense is one of the best.  I'm looking forward to a good game but have to go with Fitchburg winning - 28 - 21.  See you there....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 13, 2005, 12:47:44 PM
Congrats to Curry for winning their 3rd straight NEFC Championship.  It would be nice now if they could get the NEFC their first NCAA tournament win, but it is highly unlikely, since Curry will have to face the number 1 team in the East bracket.  Looking forward to the ECAC selections tomorrow.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 13, 2005, 12:52:10 PM
I agree with HerbTuck89, in his postings regarding the recruits that go to FSC, I have never gotten the opinion that he was dissing anyone.  In most cases he was stating what he believed to be the facts based on the resarch he has done on a number of the players who transferred from D1 or D2 schools to FSC.  I believe it is a credit to the FSC coaching staff and school that these players select to go to FSC and have been successful.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bignefcfan15 on November 13, 2005, 09:34:26 PM
To those that missed the NEFC Champ. shame on you! Great game. I think that the difference in the game was the 2nd half adjustments made by curry to really shut down FSC's run game. Kicking for FSC was a HUGE problem but the offense only put up 7 pts (7 from the D). Some key points I thought to the game:
-Cury's punt return for TD, really seemed to kill FSC's momentum.
-FSC's 4th quarter bomb caught and called back for the first holding of the game ???
-1st OT, excellent T.O. called by Curry as FSC was marching down the field and their defense looked to give up and was going to let up the game winning TD. This seemed to refocus the team and held FSC to an extra point field goal attempt (about the 4-5yds out) to win the game and missed.
-Last, FSC going for the field goal to win the game on 3rd down in OT1. Their kicker didn't make a fg all season, would have taken one shot in the endzone. But, I can see why FSC went for the field goal, with a fumbled snap or anyother miscue, could have reattempted it on 4th down. I'm sure that was the purpose/thinking.
Anyway, a great game. Good sportsmanship by both teams. Wasn't to impressed with Curry fans that were yelling racial slurs at FSC players after the game. Finally, I dont see Curry getting the first "W" for the NEFC in the win colum. Deleware Valley seems like a top notch program, good luck to them anyway. Hopefully FSC can rebound from this tough loss and play a strong game if called to an ECAC game.-Cheers
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 14, 2005, 05:53:58 PM
I find it interesting that two holding calls at critical points in two big games for Curry resulted in saving Curry from losing two games.  In the EC game, EC appeared to have scored a go ahead TD with less than a minute in the game when holding was called.  That TD could have resulted in EC winning the Boyd instead of Curry.  Then Sat. in the NEFC Championship, the first holding call of the game is called after a successful bomb for FSC.  Holding could be called on every play in every game at every level, but it sure appears that the officials are eagar to throw a flag when things are going against Curry.  It is hard to believe that there was no holding in the game until that big play in the 4th quarter.

I don't think the officials will be able to save Curry against Deleware Valley in the NCAA.  I look for a 50-7 blow-out.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bignefcfan15 on November 14, 2005, 06:26:36 PM
That holding call was a little fishy, anyways, ECAC's are up (from ECAC.com):

2005 ECAC Division III Northeast Northeast Bowl Championship
                 Bridgewater St. at Fitchburg St.
                            November 19 - noon.
2005 ECAC Division III North Atlantic Football Bowl Championship
                         Maine Maritime at Alfred
                           November 19 - Noon
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 14, 2005, 06:56:43 PM
Its too bad the ECAC chose Maine Maritime instead of EC. It would have been interesting to rematch with Fitchburg.  Maine Mar did have a higher Quality of Win rating than EC and played in the tougher division.  My picks for the NEFC games in the ECAC are:

BSC 21 @ FSC 28

Maine Mar 14 @ Alfred 30

Good luck to all of the NEFC teams playing this weekend.  Represent the NEFC well.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on November 14, 2005, 08:33:16 PM
Anyone from the NEFC....tell me about Maine Maritime. What are the team's strengths? weaknesses?
They will have an 11.5 hour bus drive to Alfred, a one traffic light town in the foothills of the Allegheny Mountains.

GO SAXONS!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bignefcfan15 on November 14, 2005, 08:47:16 PM
ME Maritime has a good offense, option team, big powerful back. Defense is ok. I don't think they will have any problems with the bus drive, they travel and sleep over most road trips around the NEFC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fanfriendly on November 15, 2005, 01:15:25 AM
My picks for the ECAC games

Fichburg 14 vs Bridgewater 35

Maine Maritime 7 vs Alfed 42
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Moose50 on November 15, 2005, 09:42:19 AM
I was also atthe Curry/FSC game and ound it to be one ofthe best D3 games I have ever seen.  Many positive comments from the true "fans" in the stands about how competitive the game was and how both teams expresssed good sportsmanship afterward.  I too heard and saw the racial slurs slurs that were directed at the FSC players after the game.  To the players credit they kept their composure and walked away even after being challanged by the fans that were directly opposite the Curry "Touch Down Club" end zone.  What atrocious behavior exhibited by these drunks who seemingly had free reign to do or say whatever they pleased even with the Curry "police" standing there.  I watched as the only "officer", a female walked away and never returned.  The FSC fans had to walk through that area as well and many were subject to the same behavior.   I think that Coach Nelson, as the AD, has to reign in this type of behavior or from what was witnessed, it will get out of hand some day and the only people to blame will be the Curry administration for letting it go.

Too bad Coach Haverty doesn't get coach of the year but, once again, it's all about
politics. 

Is the ECAC bowl game @ FSC or B'Water.  Both major papers have it in different sites.  Either way, FSC 24 / BSC 21, the kicker doesn't miss this time.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bignefcfan15 on November 16, 2005, 11:35:32 AM
The ECAC Northeast Championship game is at Fitchburg. Predictions later this week...-cheers.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 16, 2005, 02:16:25 PM
Quote from: Moose50 on November 15, 2005, 09:42:19 AM

Too bad Coach Haverty doesn't get coach of the year but, once again, it's all about
politics. 



maybe the coach from the best team in the league should get the coach of the year?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on November 16, 2005, 02:40:52 PM
The coach with the best team should not get the coach of the year unless that team only has average players.  Look at how Maine was in the past, I would give that coach my vote since they over achieved.  Anybody can coach a bunch of ballers.  It's the guy who can make a below average bunch of players into an above average team that deserves it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Teck on November 16, 2005, 06:48:58 PM
If I'm not mistaken Curry and Fitchburg both have 2 losses, and Curry plays in the weaker Boyd division. Yes, Endicott beat Fitchburg and Curry beat Endicott, but you could say the same thing in the reverse with Maine Maritime. Coach Haverty is more deserving of the Coach of the Year award, the Curry players (Charlie Gibbs) worked their way back into the second game with that punt return for a TD with 46 seconds left in the half, not because of Nelson's coaching. His players barely outplayed the Fitchburg players and he escaped that championship game by the skin of his teeth. Coach Haverty continually goes unrecognized by the conference for the complete turnaround he has made up there in Fitchburg. Maybe if he had played in the NFL the conference might be more inclined to suck up to him.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 16, 2005, 06:50:47 PM
I bet the fact that nelson is an nfl guy makes many a little jelous and want to spite him a little.  All I heard is how fitchburg has all these great players and stuff and then they cant do it in the big game?

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on November 16, 2005, 08:27:10 PM
Exactly, I don't think Haverty deserves it because like Utah said they have all these "great" transfers everyone talks about and he still can't win the conference title.  Nelson doesn't deserve it because he has great talent to work with. Maine's coach or Endicott's is the most deserving.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: frankee2time on November 16, 2005, 10:20:08 PM
First off all these teams ranked higher than Bridgewater in the D3 New England coaches poll are terrible! What is this all conference garbage at WR? June Jones' kid Jon Jones gets all conference over my man Mark Hull!!!!! My boy Hull got 6 more catches 75 more yards and 5 more touchdowns. that's weak.
Next Trinity and Colby play in a league with Rick Moranis and Al Bundy wannabees.  Is this Little Giants??? Who do you play??? Keanu Reeves and the replacements??? How about NO ONE!!!!!
I am not one to call out any individuals but how about Bill Grammatica kicking for Curry, you're awful!!!!
What about this"
Too bad Coach Haverty doesn't get coach of the year but, once again, it's all about
politics. "---Politics?? how about running a wannabee community college program with all the drop outs/ transfers??? What is this the D3 version of the NBA (taking stupid high schoolers with game???) What's up with the field situation??? A high school field? You afraid of losing your homecoming game?? So you reschedule your homecoming and field opening so you don't get stomped?
Oh and by the way we're coming Fitchburg....we are gonna come to your house, eat your food, have our way, and stomp our muddy feet where the sun don't shine!!!! Pull out the Kleenex little boys, dry the tears,  I know it was a fun season, time to go home to watching "remember the titans","rudy", and all those other feel good stories. Cuz we're gonna make this one hurt.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 16, 2005, 10:42:57 PM
wasnt jones hurt for a few games?

bridgewater would lose by 50 to trinity, 40 to williams, amherst and colby...probably by 20 to bowdoin.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 16, 2005, 10:50:07 PM
and pete mazzafaro is the qb coach at curry?  that place is like the hall of presidents....mosi tatupu as special teams coach........
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 17, 2005, 06:54:06 AM
I have to agree that Nelson does not deserve the NEFC Coach of the year.  His team was not as good this year as they were the past two years and that is because he didn't have the same caliber of players which shows that he has to have great players not that he is a good coach.  I agree with SullyMustGo that Endicott's coach Wells is a better candidate.  In 4 years he has taken a brand new program and made them contenders for the Boyd division and has improved their record every year.  If you look at the NEFC All-Conference team he has done it without superstars like Curry has.  That is coaching.  Maybe it is too tough a decision for the NEFC to choose a Coach of the Year so they just automatically give it to the conference champ.  Maybe they should not give out a Coach of the Year until an NEFC Team wins a game in the NCAA Tournament.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Moose50 on November 17, 2005, 08:35:30 AM
Frankee2time, if your going to post, make sure your facts are straight.  The field @ FSC was installed incorrectly by the contractor paid by the state.  It had to completely ripped up and reinstalled.  The field is now completely finished.  That was the reason for the change to the Lunenburg High School field.  The new "field turf" is synthetic and doesn't have "mud" anywhere. I think that you'll find the field facilities there a little bit better than those @ BSC.  As for those who comment about the "bailers" & "dropouts" at FSC, doesn't a player have the right to transfer from a program that he's unhappy with to another where he feels that he could achieve at a higher level.

Just look at how competitive this conference has become, we've got posters slinging mud from "field turf"!!!     
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on November 17, 2005, 08:57:28 AM
Well, its been a while, but I am glad to return to the forum.  I must say, it seems as if my Gulls got screwed, but that is for another day.  What is this madness that is being run around this board about Coach Haverty deserving coach of the year this year.  Wow, The Maine guy or Mr Wells far outcoached Haverty (who has good talent, and should be congradulated for recruiting) with lesser players.  Maine stunk last year, granted that FB that returned was a MAN playing with boys, they still improved more than anyone else.

As for this Bridgewater player yelling and screaming about fields, wow, what would you have liked to have about the lack of a field at the time at Fitchburg, played on the area where the field was going to be?  It seems like those guys at Fitchburg did a decent job finding a field that was playable.  Did it slant to a side when Fitchburg had the ball, and then the other way when you did?  Cut those guys some slack and be happy you are playing a their new field now.

PS, how about some pictures online of the field FSC?  Seems like a good selling point to kids?

GO GULLS, oh wait, we got screwed!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fanfriendly on November 17, 2005, 02:45:54 PM
i dont know exactly how the ECAC selections go, but i was under the impression that any team with a winning reord is eligible. Then every team over .500 has a choice to participate or not. I would assume that there are a fair number of teams that would not want to partipate due to teh costs.

any feed back on this idea
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Daddio on November 17, 2005, 03:09:37 PM
Gullgrad......How did the Gulls get screwed?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HerbTuck89 on November 17, 2005, 03:47:37 PM
Well, I'm glad that Fitchburg has an opportunity to play another game.  The first time I saw them play was the Bridgewater game at the high school.  If I remember correctly FSC had a couple of their key players hurt that day.  I saw someone had Bridgewater scoring 35 points.  Only if the defense decides to take the day off.  The defense is also very healthy for this game as well as the offensive backfield.   I was at the Curry game last week.  It was a game for the ages.  FSC should be really up for this game and will not let BSC downfield.  The last game was a long pass down field by BSC that they scored on.  That won't happen this time.  Their new field is excellent and if you are going to tailgate there should be a party after the game.  FSC 28 - BSC 17
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bignefcfan15 on November 18, 2005, 12:30:57 AM
As far as coach of the year goes, Maine's HC deserved it. That team was nothing the last few years and in one single season turned it around to finish 3rd in the division beating Wrocester St. As far as the game this weekend between bsc and fsc, I dont know if fsc can over come such an emotional loss as they suffered last week. Last season they seemed to pack it in after the nefc championship loss to curry and getting spanked by springfield. I'm hoping they will not do it again. I attended the first fsc bridewater game this year and fsc really had a hard time running until key defensive players for bsc went down But, bsc's offense didn't show up to the game either until 10mins to go in the game. On the field note, I went to the fsc v. wsc game at fsc (live close by) and their new facility is nice! Field is beautiful, seating is limited, we were crammed in there, but once they get the landscaping done it will be the best facility in the nefc.
Predictions:
Maine 14  Alfred 42- Maine is just over powered in this one.
FSC 17 BSC 21- FSC is 0-1 in rematches this year, bsc is hungry for revenge, also I hope FSC's kicking game shows up, 0-12 on fg and 22-32 on pats this year! HORRIBLE.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gordonmann on November 18, 2005, 12:48:14 AM
Programming note...

PnG Sports will carry Saturday's first round playoff game live on the internet...

Delaware Valley College vs. Curry College

If you can't make the trip, check us out live from Doylestown, PA on www.sportsjuice.com.

Pregame at 11:30 AM, kickoff at 12 PM.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Saxon73 on November 18, 2005, 08:59:31 PM
Hello NEFC Bogan,

Unless I have the wrong designation?, Is there any comments on the Alfred U v Maine Maritime game.  Let's not allow the other coference battles to overwhelm us.  What do you think? Let's get some dialouge going.!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Saxon73 on November 18, 2005, 10:25:30 PM
Hello Marine Maritime,

Are you there?

No offense intended, would like to establish a dialouge It's not like the end of the world.  So many of the New England schools don't post, bit I need to know if I should make a 200 mile trip to the game!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bignefcfan15 on November 18, 2005, 11:09:14 PM
Saxon73- Save your gas money, should be a blow out unfortunaly. Looking at Deleware's roster, they dont have "big" fb players for say. If curry could win the battle at the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball, maybe they could make things interesting. I dont see them coming out with the nefc's first win though
Curry 14 DSU 28
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bignefcfan15 on November 18, 2005, 11:11:26 PM
GOOD LUCK TO ALL OUR NEFC TEAMS TOMORROW!!! -Cheers.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Saxon73 on November 18, 2005, 11:27:47 PM
bigncfan,

Thank you for your response.  Not to put your program down, and I wish you luck, "we" seem to get such little information from your area.  Regardless , good luck, I am an AU alumni but can't make it to the game. Hope to meet you sometime.

Saxon 73
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on November 19, 2005, 07:09:31 PM
I just wanted to give some credit to fanfriendly for the closest prediction of the year for the BSC vs. FSC game....i mean the 35-14 prediction and it ended 34-17......that's damn impressive
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: frankee2time on November 20, 2005, 12:39:45 AM
The only mud getting slung was the Bridgewater State cleats onto the Fitchburg sorry a$$es. Sorry to chime in and drop some knowledge on you losers. Hope you listened to my last post and got those tissues. I didn't want all you FSC fans to ruin your mother's walmart christmas sweaters with your tears. You came in flapping your gums like Arnold and walked out with your heads tucked in between your legs looking like Richard Simmons. I got a fact, the only fact that matters.......



W



I



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WIN BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2005, 02:29:18 AM
Quote from: frankee2time on November 20, 2005, 12:39:45 AM
You came in flapping your gums like Arnold and walked out with your heads tucked in between your legs looking like Richard Simmons.

Interesting. I didn't see any trash talk on here. Why'd you have to bring it to the board? Perhaps you should let your play speak for itself, son.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dtap on November 20, 2005, 10:47:16 AM
i also remeber people saying that fitchburg was not a dirty team..well if you were at the ecac game u were proved wrong. im not talking about trash talking, every team does that. im talking about breaking a kids ankle on purpose. 20 yds behind the play, an offensive lineman had the a bsc player in ankle lock trying to snap and he succeeded..there are the most classes bunch of players and coaches i have ever seen.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on November 20, 2005, 09:42:32 PM
I've been saying Fitchburgh has been dirty, classes, poor losers, etc ever since I've played against them for the first time. That move doesn't surprise me.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Diablo981 on November 21, 2005, 12:38:24 PM
congrats to the bears for stomping a mudhole in the falcons. they talked and played dirty in both games but when it comes down to it the falcons are just a  bunch of punks and the got what was coming to them. losing to a good curry team and then losing the chance at another championship to an even better bridgewater team.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HerbTuck89 on November 21, 2005, 12:54:14 PM
This is my final post for the year so I'm going to defend FSC.  First off - Dtap and diablo981 - You can have the ECAC championship.  The NCAA books say Division Champs and FSC are the MASCAC champs.  Ok - now for the dirty play.  I saw none of it.  If your referring to your GREAT DL Sirignano, I was on the sideline in the first quarter when they ran right on him and the FSC player fell into his ankle.  The guy standing with me said I think he broke it.  It's not our fault that he decided to come back on the field afterwards.  They did not SNAP his leg.  Look at the tape.  The other thing BSC 6 penalities for 54 yards and FSC 5 penalities for 55 yards.  I would say that game was played penalty free for both teams and doesn't support your dirty & classless theory.  Also after the game I saw a lot of FSC and BSC players laughing and talking.  And some of the BSC players actually joined in the Tailgate party after the game that the parents give for the players.  It doesn't support them being classless.  People who come on here only want to spread ugly rumors and make assumptions.  Next year is another year and I'm sure it will start of with FSC being dirty and classless.  I congratulate BSC for their victory.  After Curry's loss I thought it would be hard for FSC to play again.  They did'nt show the same emotion they had the week before.  BSC had the luxury of sitting home last week and resting because they didn't win the division.  So until next year - ENJOY YOUR VICTORY!!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on November 21, 2005, 01:54:41 PM
Ya know herbtuck I'm gonna straight up call you out....b4 u changed u'r profile we realized that you have the same last name as a kid on fitchburg.  So either that's you or someone your related to.  And if you were really payin attention to the game you would have seen the fact that the ref's weren't watchin and there should have been a hell of a lot more penalties, but everything was let go.   So stop trying to act neutral when you defend FSC cuz we know the truth.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HerbTuck89 on November 21, 2005, 02:15:39 PM
Pimpingold - You can call me out... I never said I was neutral.  I just think that FSC gets a bad rap and I'm calling out those people to prove it.  If the Ref's really weren't watching then we have a more serious problem with BSC winning the game.  Are you saying that the ref's who are picked and paid by ECAC are bad ref's?  That they turn their backs so someone could get hurt?  I'm telling you I was on the sideline when he got hurt.  Does anyone understand how much force you would have to apply to break someones ankle?  You should know that no I'm not neutral but I see what they have done at FSC.  The coach is a great guy and he works hard to put players out on the field.  Some of the things people say on here are not true.  I have watched these players walk though the line after a loss and shake everyone's hand.  They had very few penalities this year and it is just plain unfair to keep calling these players classless.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Diablo981 on November 21, 2005, 02:31:02 PM
where were sleeper and famularo at the end of the game? i was in the line to shake hands and i saw neither. sleeper was alseep the entire game anyway 3 grabs for 32 yards? he dropped about 4 balls and totally blew it for his falcons. and frank "phantom tackle" famularo got credit for so many tackles that he was no where near. he must have been playing every position on the field. glad you saw the game though. feels nice to have a fitchburg fan watch #34 whitehead get trucked on every play. see you punks next year. same dirty classless team as this year. trust me the bears will show up and continually pound the falcons
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on November 22, 2005, 07:29:51 AM
Lets turn our heads to next year.  To me, it looks like Curry and EC again, with EC returning most of their starters again.  And on the other side, who knows.  Both Bridgewater and Fitchburg had alot of Sr's, and not much behind them.  Maybe it will be time for a new team to emerge, like Fithcburg did a few years ago.  How about a Maine or Worcester?  Not sure how Sr full those two teams were.  I think some schools need a change up top, namely Framingham and Salve, but we all knew that one.  So lets see some thoughts on next year!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Daddio on November 22, 2005, 09:37:58 AM
I was at the game as well and when your OL-#69 comes off the field bragging that he broke the kids leg and says "that takes care of that"...I would consider it pretty classless...When certain members of the team refuse to get in line for the handshake at the end of the game, that is pretty classless...When you have a fan in the stands dropping f-bombs at the Bridgewater parents--bad enough that one of the policemen came down and warned him--that is pretty classless...Need I go on....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on November 22, 2005, 11:52:00 AM
About next year I havn't heard any news about Framingham but I'm praying Sullivan resigns.  He has to look at his success or lack of over the past 4 years. If he can honestly say he has helped this program then he should stay, but if he says he hasn't done anything to improve it then the logical thing to do is resign and let someone else try.  We all know what the players are hoping for. If I was a head coach and 99% of the players hated my guts I would not want to coach there. I don't understand why Sully would want to.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 22, 2005, 12:16:12 PM
Quote from: SullyMustGo on November 22, 2005, 11:52:00 AM
About next year I havn't heard any news about Framingham but I'm praying Sullivan resigns.

Wow, shocking. Who knew?  :-\
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bearpaw on November 22, 2005, 08:23:09 PM
Hey, Pimpin Gold and Diablo981...enough.  Regardless of what occurred Saturday, lets just take the highroad and be happy we won.  I don't think we need to stress on what occurred, because it obviously didn't effect the only thing that mattered, the score.  We are better than this sh*t talking.

Anyways, what happened with Maine, did Alfred just shut down the runningback, or were they just that outmatched?  What happened with Curry?  Any predictions for next year?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bearpaw on November 22, 2005, 08:25:37 PM
Also, to all you lovely Framingham alum, friends, and players.  If there is this much dispair over Coach Sullivan, why don't you all group together and complain enough to the school.  The only way things are going to change are through actions, not by sitting here and b*tching on a website.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on November 22, 2005, 09:38:28 PM
Because all the players are scared that their careers will be jeopordized if they come out and say something.  I'd rather play for the worst coach in the world than sit home and not play at all.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bearpaw on November 23, 2005, 12:24:03 AM
Then I think that you as an alum and other alumni like yourself need to band together.  I can def. tell you one thing, it's obvious that people on this board don't really care, so go out and do something about it besides sitting here and b*tching on the board.  I'm not trying to gang up on you, you've made some very valid points, and I've enjoyed your info on certain topics, but your complaining about Fram. Football is doing nothing.  It sure isn't helping the program, it's not helping the kids, and it's not helping the school.  So please, for everyone's sake, take your vigor and passion for this and  find a real way to help Framingham football.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on November 23, 2005, 09:54:22 AM
Well although former alum should band together to get rid of this bum, this is a D3 board.  Does saying how classless a team is or team A and would have beaten team B if not for holding calls really do anything either? Just because I post about how Framingham needs a new coach on here does not mean I'm not trying do anything off this board to get things done. This is a D3 board for D3 news, debate, etc. I don't care about some things posted on this board but I don't tell that person they shouldn't post. I just don't respond to the issue.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: downbythebeach on November 25, 2005, 04:41:18 PM
Hey so heres a question?

What NEFC schools have the best facilities?
Which has the worst?
Any plans for improvement?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MOJO on November 26, 2005, 08:09:58 AM
New England Football Conference Posters,
Just a note to mention, I admire SullyMustGo for his persistence in attempting to address a situation that has not only hurt Framingham State but also the kids in the program.  Regardless of level of play, coaching is everything.  Coach Sullivan should step down, for the good of the kids, if things are as presented on this board.  SullyMustGo has taken some criticism along the way but has stayed the course.  Keep the faith SullyMustGo, and keep fighting the good fight.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fanfriendly on November 27, 2005, 05:43:51 PM
Westfield State has a buetiful facility but a horrible field.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on November 27, 2005, 10:43:42 PM
Framingham has a nice field, but no locker room type of facility down near the field. However they're gym and locker rooms in their athletic buliding are great. And ofcourse I have to say. These facilities don't mean jack without a good coach. haha
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bearpaw on November 27, 2005, 11:40:10 PM
SullyMustGo...damn man, I'm surprised...I think what I said earlier was mistaken...by no means was I trying to attack you at all.  I guess in the end, I just hope you are using the same passion to get rid of Sully as you use posting. 

As for new facilities...I didn't think Westfields was that bad of a field, and the other facilities are great.  Worcester State could use some new locker rooms, but their field is also pretty good.  I think honestly, the only really bad field in the league would be Salve Regina's, because it's a beat up high school field and they have the opposing team change in another high school....

Kavey to the Aztec Bowl, quite an achievement....any other NEFC players get some good honors?  Anybody up for Academic All-American?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Diablo981 on November 28, 2005, 08:19:43 PM
here's some new news. next year coast guard academy is joining the bogan division and plymouth state is joining the boyd.
Title: Sullivan
Post by: footballplayer on November 29, 2005, 01:07:43 PM
Coach Sullivan is a great coach. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on November 29, 2005, 11:46:34 PM
Footballplayer who are you? His sidekick Coach Rogers who throws the ball 4 times in a row inside the 10 when the running game got you in there in the first place? Or are you his son? Other than those two people I have never met anyone who liked him and I've met alotta former players.  And by former playes I mean when he was a head coach. I'm sure he was a great guy at Worcestor state as an assistant becuase he didn't run the team.

O and please explain to me why you think he is a great coach.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bearpaw on November 30, 2005, 09:28:22 AM
Sully, I think football player was just joking around, saying it to upset you.  Glad to see your response is still the same.

So, how will Coast Guard and Plymouth State look now in the NEFC?  This should make the conference race a little better, and maybe now add a game on to everybody's schedule.  Also, why does pretty much no one go out and play a non-conference game?  With schools like Springfield, WNEC, RPI, Norwich, and Western Conn. not THAT far away, why doesn't the NEFC go challenge itself and play elsewhere?  Just a thought....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3FAN05 on November 30, 2005, 02:54:09 PM
I think Coast Guard will make the most noise next year. With the NEFC a "less competitive" conference than the Liberty League they should find the goings not as tough as it has been in the past for them.

Plymouth State will also benefit from playing a set schedule rather tahn having to take on anyone that they could find to fit the openings in their schedule. They have imporved under their coach and I would think they would be competitive with most of the Boyd.

I think that scheduling comes down to not wanting to take on the added expense of an overnight trip for some of the teams. Endicott seems to have a commitment to playing outside the conference and some of the other NEFC schools have done it in the past. Could that just be a scheduling issue with finding common open dates?

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bearpaw on November 30, 2005, 03:46:28 PM
D3Fan,  Those are some interesting points...it'll be nice to just have some different teams in the league to mix it up so more. 

As for the scheduling topic...I just find it interesting that I believe Worcester and Umass Dartmouth play a week earlier than everyone else (WPI and Merrimack).  If they can play a week earlier, why can't everyone else in the league.  Also, it's not like Springfield College is any further the Westfield State.  And since most of the teams in the league only have one overnight game (maine maritime) a year, why can't they in the other year go play somebody else.  I just believe that the out of conference scheduling is the difference maker in allowing the NEFC winner to actually win a playoff game....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 30, 2005, 07:15:40 PM
Endicott has played two non-conference games each year that they have had a varsity team and the teams they play are not cupcakes.  They have played WPI, RPI, and Hartwick. They, like UMD, started their season a week earlier to get in these games.  I agree that the best way for the NEFC to improve is to play some outside competition.

Regarding the addition of Coast Guard and Plymouth State, I stated at the beginning of the season when the announcement was first made that I think the addition of these two schools hurts the NEFC more than it helps.  First neither team is that great.  I agree that the new coach at Plymouth State is turning the program around and joining the NEFC may help with that.  The Coast Guard seems to get worse every year.  The downside to the NEFC is that there will now be 16 teams.  If you have to play each team in your division that takes 7 games from your schedule.  If the NEFC requires two cross-over games as they have in the past that means that 9 games are taken by conference opponents. That pretty much shoots a hole in trying to improve by playing non-conference teams.  If the NEFC forgoes the requirement to play cross-over games then it won't hurt the conference too much.  Hopefully some of these teams will get wise and break off and form a new smaller conference (how about an all Mass Conference).  That is not likely though as long as they get the automatic bid to the NCAA.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 30, 2005, 07:21:06 PM
SullyMustGo, I agree I think Footballplayer is just playing you.  I can't imagine there is anyone out there that actually believes that Sullivan is a good coach, unless it is coaching how to lose.

Some of these new posters need to gp back and read up on earlier posts to know what has already been stated.  Back about the 2nd or 3rd week of the season, I suggested that SullyMustGo get together with the alums and go to the President and insist that Sullivan be fired.  At least it is nice to know that Summy gave basically the same answer twice.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 01, 2005, 02:59:19 AM
Quote from: Diablo981 on November 28, 2005, 08:19:43 PM
here's some new news. next year coast guard academy is joining the bogan division and plymouth state is joining the boyd.

That stpry was news back on July 18:

http://www.d3football.com/notables.php?date=2005-07-18
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Diablo981 on December 01, 2005, 01:38:47 PM
good lookin out PC. I had just found out a few days ago though.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballplayer on December 04, 2005, 07:40:56 PM
Sullymustgo,

I believe he is a great coach becuase he believes in his players.  He knows what football is about.  It is not just a X's and O's game.  It is a game about passion and character.  I believe that coach Sullivan put more time and effort into the game than you know.  Football is about passion and dedication.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SullyMustGo on December 05, 2005, 10:41:12 AM
I know he puts alot of time into the team, but you can't measure the quality of a coach just by how much time he puts in or just by his knowledge of the game. Check my previous posts, I have never said he doesn't know the game. What I've been saying is that 99% of his players hate him and are praying they get a new coach next year. And for those who have had him as a coach at FSC they all know he coaches straight out of a book named "The Football Coaching Bible". He took basic plays from there, stupid quotes that he makes people think are his own, he stole the unity council point system for discipline out of there. It's a complete joke. I can see getting ideas from a book, but please dont make a mockery of yourself and copy everything word for word. It makes you look rediculous.... He is also a prick to his players, he's ruined the careers of several great players at FSC, he has the worst play calling in history (that in part is coach rogers fault), and to top it of his record there is 3-33!!! This isn't pop wearner where records don't really matter as much, this is COLLEGE FOOTBALL where winning is 99% of the game. You really think this bum is a good coach?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on December 05, 2005, 06:36:54 PM
Well stated SullyMustGo.  I wish sometime you would let it all out and quit holding back.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bearpaw on December 05, 2005, 11:19:28 PM
Hm.....SullyMustGo, yet once again you amaze me and your stance on Framingham State football.  Here's a dumb question, are any of the players out there?  Could any of you come on here and just silence him or support him, by saying yes he's a good coach or no, he's an idiot lets get rid of him.  Every program goes through it's bad times, this league goes in cycles.  Look at Westfield State, in a bit of a funk itself.  I think to be honest, even though there are no other topics on here, this one has gotten quite boring.  I think that to be honest, it is time to either do something to change it or simply shut up and take it. 

Anywho, any big recruits going anywhere?  Also, will Bridgewater and Fitchburg be able to reload after this past season, or is it their turn to take a seat and watch teams like Maine Maritime and Worcester take the lead?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 05, 2005, 11:22:07 PM
Yeah, the axe-grinding has to stop. Enough already.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on December 06, 2005, 08:22:00 AM
No offense, but who would want that job if Sully did get fired.  Its the door-mat of the NEFC, which is the door-mat of the nation.  Sorry, but Framingham might as well get rid of football and let Salem start it up.  At least they know how to run athletic programs.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on December 06, 2005, 07:13:02 PM
Or North Adams (MCLA).  That would be a good spot.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballplayer on December 06, 2005, 09:05:16 PM
You can not blame or praise Coach Sullivan for anything. His there to prepare his athletes so that they can play the game.  I am sure he has done that the best he could.  And I have never heard anyone have a "career" in division three football.  If my memory serves me well, I believe Framingham was not the best team in the league for before Coach Sullivan was there.  Good Day
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RammerAlum on December 07, 2005, 12:50:44 PM
I've been reading the debate about Framingham for the past few month or so but I was hesitant to say anything because I have many friends on the team and I didn't want to say anything during their season. I played there for 4 years, last year being my last. I played under Coach Sullivan for 3 years which I was a starter all three.  I do not regret playing because I just loved the game so much I didn't care who the coach was. However I have to agree with sullymustgo that he is just flat out not a good fit for Framingham. I don't have to repeat what was already said about the coach because it's been beaten to death but Sullymustgo is dead on accurate with his statements. The current players and alum like myself all wish there was a new coach but for some reason we all just deal with it instead of rallying against him.  If any of you know any players from framingham or are a current player there then you'll know that Sullivan bashing goes on constantly there weather it be at the cafeteria on campus, at parties, in the dorms, etc. A program cannot become successful with this kind of dissention amongst the team. In my opinion this issue must be addressed amongst the players, AD, and coach Sullivan. Well thats all I have to say. Sorry about the long post.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: br7o7wn on December 07, 2005, 01:27:53 PM
Quote from: footballplayer on December 06, 2005, 09:05:16 PM
You can not blame or praise Coach Sullivan for anything. His there to prepare his athletes so that they can play the game. I am sure he has done that the best he could. And I have never heard anyone have a "career" in division three football. If my memory serves me well, I believe Framingham was not the best team in the league for before Coach Sullivan was there. Good Day

Well "footballplayer", you've certainly made yourself look foolish! First, I would suggest looking up the word "career" in the dictionary and perhaps you can figure out how that would be applied to the context of college football. Second, I would suggest looking at FSC's record the 3 years prior to his arrival. I am sure that you will see more than 3 wins!! Lastly, I would like to remind you that coaching has EVERYTHING to do with team success! Especially in DIII, where success is usually measured by how much good football you can squeeze out of the talent you have. Plays are responsible for executing on the field, however the coach is responsible for introducing and implementing the gameplan. If a business is failing do you blame the workers?? No, you look to the boss. Same with football, start by cutting off the head! I am a very strong supporter of the Sully Must Go campaign!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 07, 2005, 02:07:02 PM
Quote from: RammerAlum on December 07, 2005, 12:50:44 PM
I don't have to repeat what was already said about the coach because it's been beaten to death but Sullymustgo is dead on accurate with his statements.

Of course you say so. You're the same person with a new username. Give it up already.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bearpaw on December 07, 2005, 04:59:09 PM
So SullyMustGo is now pulling a Mission Impossible II on us and wearing multiple masks....funny stuff man, thought halloween already passed.  Lets just keep it simple...Framingham has an awful record, they lose often.  So, if things are as bad as everyone says and this man is just that horrible, why has he yet to be fired?  Obviously he must be doing something right.  So, until I see that Coach Sullivan has been released (and we all know when that day come SullyMustGo will post about two million times on good of a move it was) lets just drop it.

Will there be any Coaching changes in the league elsewhere...and here's another question, how many starters does Maine Maritime bring back for next year?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballplayer on December 07, 2005, 05:04:25 PM
This will be my last message.  I think you should put this passion on a website into your football.  Good luck.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: tdpass on December 08, 2005, 06:08:15 PM
HEY SALVE REGINA JUST CLEANED HOUSE WITH THE COACHING STAFF.  THEIR MAKING IT A FULL TIME POSITION AND EXPECTING TO HAVE IT FILLED BY FEBUARARY.  RECRUITING IS GONNA BE TOUGH BUT MY QUESTION IS WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK OF THE MOVE?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on December 08, 2005, 06:33:20 PM
I think it is a great move for Salve.  Theye have not had a good team for the last few years and hiring a full time coach should help.  There are some pretty good HS players in RI and CT that might choose to go there now.  If they had their own field to play on it would be even better.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on December 08, 2005, 06:34:26 PM
Pat can you confirm the news about Salve?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 08, 2005, 11:59:01 PM
Well, last year someone came on the board and posted that Bell got canned as well, and I seem to think he was still there this season.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: otto on December 09, 2005, 08:00:29 AM
I can confirm. the whole Salve coaching staff is gone.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SulliMustGo II on December 09, 2005, 12:55:14 PM
BearPaw, you got to be kidding me. "He must be doing something right"? He's still there because the AD and the college could care less about football. I rest my case with 3 wins in 4 years.  I guess according to you Don Capers is a great coach for the Texans with an astonishing 1-11 season so far.  How about the Colorado coach getting canned after 3 humiliating defeats. And he got to the Big 12 championship game.  I guess at Framingham it's gonna take 40 or more embarrassing defeats before Sulli gets axed. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SulliMustGo II on December 09, 2005, 12:58:39 PM
And by the way Rammeralum is not me, it's one of my best friends who happens to be one of the many who think Sullivan should go.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bearpaw on December 09, 2005, 01:56:13 PM
You are quite funny.  First, you create multiple names to come on here and say the same dumb things you've been saying since September.  You keep saying horrible things about this guy, and if he's such a bad coach, how did he help lead Worcester State to an ECAC win as the Defensive Coordinator?  The guy has won before, so it's not like he's just some loser off the streets.  Sure, tough times, 3 wins in 4 years.  But you know what, they got two this year, that's something for him to build on.  You come on here downgrading this guy and this team, but you aren't doing anything positive.  All of you former players band together and get the man fired.  And don't say it can't be done, because that's what happened at Bridgewater with Mazzefero, anybody that says otherwise doesn't know his facts. 

and what happened to the other like 14 screen names?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on December 09, 2005, 05:42:24 PM
According to the Salve Regina University website, Art Bell left the job as football coach when the university decided to make the head coaching job a full time position.  Art works full time and could not afford to leave the full time job he has had for the last 17 years.  The announcement did not mention anything about the rest of the football coaching staff.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: tdpass on December 09, 2005, 10:56:50 PM
YOU CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT SALVE REGINA WOULD GIVE THE NEW HEAD COACH THE RIGHT TO PICK AND CHOOSE HIS STAFF
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: downbythebeach on December 10, 2005, 06:58:46 PM
Hey here is a question about UMASS-Dartmouth

Umm I am from PA and here we have schools such as Penn St.-Beaver; Penn St.-Altoona.  Is that pretty much the same thing just Mass's version?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on December 10, 2005, 07:00:20 PM
yea, basically the same thing there downbythebeach.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on December 11, 2005, 12:49:21 PM
Quote from: downbythebeach on December 10, 2005, 06:58:46 PM
Hey here is a question about UMASS-Dartmouth

Umm I am from PA and here we have schools such as Penn St.-Beaver; Penn St.-Altoona.  Is that pretty much the same thing just Mass's version?

Yeah, UMASS-Darmouth is an extention of UMASS located in Darmouth, MA
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: downbythebeach on December 11, 2005, 05:19:25 PM
let me actually rephrase that i did write what i ment

Is it kind of like Umass in Amherst is main campus and Dartmouth is a branch of that
Or
Are Umass Amherst and Umass Dartmouth equal parts just one is in the east, one in the west.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on December 11, 2005, 05:24:33 PM
Quote from: downbythebeach on December 11, 2005, 05:19:25 PM
let me actually rephrase that i did write what i ment

Is it kind of like Umass in Amherst is main campus and Dartmouth is a branch of that
Or
Are Umass Amherst and Umass Dartmouth equal parts just one is in the east, one in the west.

No, Umass Amherst is a university, and is the size of most major state universities across the country. ( smaller than like Texas or Michigan, but comparable to like Uconn  or Rutgers)  Umass Dartmouth is a subcampus of that.  Much smaller.  Theres Umass Lowell, Boston and Dartmouth all much smaller.  Kind of like Penn St. Altoona like you said above.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefan on December 12, 2005, 09:07:11 AM
Couple of things...About time Salve Regina went to a Full time coach...They have had a recruiting coordinator for two years now but he is also the lacrosse coach... Every team in the NEFC now has a full time coach except for UMass Dartmouth... They are all local teachers.... Also, UMass Dartmouth is part of the five-campus University of Massachusetts system. Like Johnny Utah said UMass Amherst is alot bigger..UMass D has about 8,000 students with 4,000 living on campus..They just built 5 or 6 new dorms and looking to build more in the next few years.... It is pretty amazing what some of these teams have done in the past years with the lack of support they get...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fballking19 on December 12, 2005, 10:03:40 AM
As a graduate of Salve Regina University as well as a former player I am overwhelmingly enthusiastic about Salve's decision to get a full time coach. The move in my estimation is a couple of years too late. This past season the freshmen class at Salve was 7 players, so much for the recruiting coordinator. The coordinator does'nt even coach football, along with this disconnection comes a question about judging talent. Salve's facilities do not compare with Curry's and Endicott's, but the area in which Salve is located beats both those schools like a drum. Newport is one of the nicest area to live, let alone go to college in the entire country. Salve also offers a better academic standing than most NEFC schools, which makes it more difficult to recieve the talent that other schools in the conference are able to obtain. The obstacles are there but there is also oppurtunity, the team has been succesful in the past and it could be again if given to the right coach.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on December 12, 2005, 05:00:31 PM
Quote from: fballking19 on December 12, 2005, 10:03:40 AM
As a graduate of Salve Regina University as well as a former player I am overwhelmingly enthusiastic about Salve's decision to get a full time coach. The move in my estimation is a couple of years too late. This past season the freshmen class at Salve was 7 players, so much for the recruiting coordinator. The coordinator does'nt even coach football, along with this disconnection comes a question about judging talent. Salve's facilities do not compare with Curry's and Endicott's, but the area in which Salve is located beats both those schools like a drum. Newport is one of the nicest area to live, let alone go to college in the entire country. Salve also offers a better academic standing than most NEFC schools, which makes it more difficult to recieve the talent that other schools in the conference are able to obtain. The obstacles are there but there is also oppurtunity, the team has been succesful in the past and it could be again if given to the right coach.

fbalking19, having a better academic standing should help a school like Salve get better football players.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AptosDad on December 12, 2005, 05:19:29 PM
I agree it's good news for Salve Regina to recognize it's time for a full time coach, but I'm responding to the shortage of freshman players.  Although the roster number was 10, not 7, I can only guess that the football team is well served by transfers from local junior colleges.  MIT, on the other hand, had 17 frosh listed on their roster of 44 (Salve's roster was 52), and the one box score that I used to compare starters to roster, MIT had 10 frosh among their 22 offensive and defensive starters.  There are obvious academic hurdles experienced only by the MIT players, but maybe the recruiting coordinator at Salve is already doing a decent job by attracting the juco players, and hopefully the experience gained by MIT's youngsters will serve them well on the field in years to come.
Having a strong academic standing is a good thing, but I also like the idea that MIT might have a very experienced team in a couple of years. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on December 16, 2005, 01:54:19 PM
I've read through some of these posts through this past year.  I played in the NEFC for four years and yes I know all about Framinghams struggles... I want to say one thing and one thing only, even if it gets me kicked off this message board.  SullymustGo - Put the issue to rest kid.  Yes we get you're point, we understand you are bitter and have nothing else to talk about. Get over it.  You played for a below average, not to mention terrible team in college that has its issues.  Let the people involved with the organization now deal with it.  Thats all I really have to say. I am just sick and tired of seeing your endless posts about Framingham football... Get a life kid.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: DBackMc03 on December 19, 2005, 10:51:43 AM
Pat Coleman where you at?  Is the All-American team on this site different from the AFCA All-American Team?  Brenden Kavey was AFCA All-American but I noticed that he wasnt on the D3Football All-American list.  If they are different, how does a kid get all american on one list, and cant get even get honorable mention on d3football.com?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 19, 2005, 11:57:50 AM
Great question. I wondered, similarly, as I read the AFCA's All-American team, how a kid could be named only-team All-American by them when he wasn't even the offensive MVP of his own conference.

Thibodeau was the offensive MVP of the NEFC. He made the D3football.com All-American team as a running back. Kavey was considered but did not make the team.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: DBackMc03 on December 19, 2005, 12:30:55 PM
The NEFC represented in the Aztec Bowl.  Kavey broke off a 69 yd td run and led the team in rushing with 87 yards and Charlie Gibbs opened the game up with a "Pick-6".  Its good when kids from one of the "weaker" conferences can contribute and shine in a big game like that with the rest of the allstars showing them that the NEFC does have some decent talent.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Moose50 on December 21, 2005, 10:23:07 AM
I know that I'm still a "JV" poster but hey, it's the Christmas season so let's be positive for a week.  How about the great players & plays we all saw this year?  For one, I can't wait for next year with many underclassmen ready to take the place of those that are leaving.  Just some late information I got yesterday: MMA just hired a new head coach (I don't know what happened to the coach from this past year) and the next years' draft schedules are out. How's the weather in Castine, ME the second week of November?  Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on December 21, 2005, 11:18:43 PM
The afca listens to recommendations (does favors for) from certain ex-nefc coaches.........
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AptosDad on December 22, 2005, 12:09:55 AM
Moose50,
JV or not, I appreciate your attempt at 'positive' banter.  As for great plays, obviously there were too many to know, but among my favorite efforts was that of a freshman DL who had a game that included 3 first half sacks.  As for underclassmen getting ready to take the place of graduates, MIT played with mostly underclassmen, including starting 10 freshman.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on December 22, 2005, 08:16:26 AM
Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't MMA just hire a new guy last year, why would they get another already?  Moose are you sure this is right, and if so, where did you find out?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cincinatti1 on December 22, 2005, 10:34:50 PM
The Word on the street is that MMA just picked up an outstanding Coach and recruiter in John Shelton, formally of Kansas U and Bryant College (RI). MMA will now be one of the tougher schools to recruit against. Give them 4 years with John and their 2nd year HFC. It won't be long before they're successful.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: downbythebeach on December 31, 2005, 01:11:23 AM
so i was wondering which team has the best attendance, and what is the most attended rivalry?

which has the most support in a typical year?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on January 04, 2006, 08:25:07 AM
I have seen a few games that are well attended.  First, Endicott and Curry has turned into a quick rivalry, Curry and Umass Dartmouth get a good crowd, and Worcester v Bridgewater seems to mean the title on the other side.

Just an observation.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: tdpass on January 15, 2006, 01:47:44 PM
What are some things that should be discussed when inteviewing a head coach?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: br7o7wn on January 15, 2006, 10:30:13 PM
I can think of a few important topics. I would want  to discuss the current status of the program, see what the candidate has researched himself, and then discuss potential plans to take the program forward. I would want to examine the candidate's basic football concepts and practices to establish a good fit. Then I would want to know some more detailed info as to how these concepts would be presented to the team and implemented in practice and games. Finally I would like to know what recruiting strategies and administrative capacities he offered.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: br7o7wn on January 15, 2006, 10:32:01 PM
Oh, and assistant coaches and other team needs may be dicsussed also.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cincinatti1 on January 16, 2006, 08:43:53 PM
browny,
Here's one for you... If you were to coach for me, how would I know if you're being an effective coach?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: br7o7wn on January 16, 2006, 11:33:14 PM
I guess you would judge that by how well the players performed on the field and in the classroom. Also you would evaluate my efforts in developing a program that was actively recruiting and connecting with alumni.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cincinatti1 on January 16, 2006, 11:43:03 PM
Your thought process is correct...but the simpler answer is this... I will know when you are being an effective coach when your players DO what YOU say they will do in the interview/review/etc. It can be on the field, in the classroom, etc... Well in my humble opinion anyways...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: illinihscoach05 on January 21, 2006, 02:24:14 PM
Anyone know anything about Salve Regina head football job opening?  Have buddies from when I played in NE yrs ago who are looking at the job but have heard nothing as of yet.  Anyone have info?  Anyone named or any names being thrown around?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Moose50 on February 02, 2006, 04:04:24 PM
Speaking of the year in review, is the weather now better than what we went through this past season?  WOW!!!  Just wondering, when do the schedules come out for the NEFC  as I have to plan my days off around the games.  If anyone has any info, could you please send it out.  Thanks
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: tdpass on February 06, 2006, 03:41:32 PM
So I heard Salve Regina got the D-Cordinator from WPI as their  new head coach.  I wonder what he's all about, heard he was seemed like a good guy.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on February 06, 2006, 03:43:37 PM
Will Plymouth state and Coastguard be part of the schedule this fall? Also I hear that there are several kids jumping schools  and transferring.  Kids leaving the local d2 schools and going elswhere and others leaving the private schools and going to state schools. Also would a school like Bridgewater state ever schedule say a stonehill and say westfield ever schedule an AIC or Springfield...They are all neighboring schools and I think it would attract more kids to D3. For Instance i just saw were AIC is on The UMASS schedule.May be a rout but makes sense....Exciting for the AIC Program.... What have you all heard ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 16, 2006, 03:13:55 PM
Waggle, yes, PSU and CGA are NEFC in 2006.

By the way, since there's usually a fair amount of crossover between sports, just a reminder to people that we now have men's and women's lacrosse message boards as well:

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?board=1501.0 (men)
http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?board=1502.0 (women)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Moose50 on February 24, 2006, 01:06:11 PM
Just got back from Florida and I heard down there that Steve Nelson left Curry College to "purse other interests" in the computer field.  Well guess what's in the Boston Globe this morning, the "offical" statement from Curry that Nelson has left.  Who's next there?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on February 28, 2006, 09:10:50 AM
This can only help the rest of the league.  Mr. Nelson was getting too many things to go his way, like recruits and even calls (right gulls?) I hope this will open up the boyd and let the Gulls grab the title.  Maybe we can host the championship this year?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Longtooth on March 01, 2006, 05:03:55 PM
Is salve open?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on April 11, 2006, 01:02:35 PM
Does Div III (NEFC in particular) have spring practice?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: tdpass on April 16, 2006, 11:39:13 AM
yes there is spring practice, i think for the month of april, footballs no pads
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 21, 2006, 06:22:43 PM
I send greetings to former Westfield St Co-Captain Ryan Togneri (http://www.d3football.com/notables.php)!

Thanks for all that you do and have done!

Semper Fi!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: formerd3db on April 22, 2006, 08:50:11 AM
I second Ralph's well-wishes for Ryan.  My thoughts and prayers to him and his family as he recovers. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on April 23, 2006, 11:44:43 AM
Does Curry have a coach yet?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 23, 2006, 12:07:06 PM
Skip Bandini, promoted from within. Was defensive coordinator in 2003, 2004 and OC in 2005.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on April 24, 2006, 10:25:37 AM

Hey , What Happened to Ryan Tognieri? That kid was a real scrapper on the football field.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 24, 2006, 11:11:59 AM
Story is in Notables.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on April 28, 2006, 12:00:07 PM
It's pretty cool to see all the recruiting news around the nation, but does anyone have any news for this area?  Gulls, did we get any studs??
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: tdpass on May 08, 2006, 07:03:04 PM
So who's looking good next year being that another senior class graduates?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on May 22, 2006, 07:05:26 AM
So who would care to brag about their recruiting class?  I see tons of it around this web-site, but nothing for the NEFC. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: evacuee on May 26, 2006, 11:15:09 AM
On to more important topics-

I've never posted on this board.  Honestly I'm just not familiar with much of what y'all do except that one of my high school coaches played at Williams.  A linebacker named Mike Simpson class of 1990 I think.  Anyway, that's not important.  The 50 point rule that has just been put in place for Connecticut high school football is my issue.  I suspect that some of the folks reading this are from Connecticut, and I hope for your sake that you are as embarrassed about what this reflects in the Connecticut sports culture as New Orleanians are about their mayor having just been re-elected.  Shame on your state.  I have to wonder why anyone plays football up there anyway. 

Maybe if it is explained to your athletic association this way, they'll understand better- a 57 to 6 game in football is like an 8 to 1 game in hockey or lacrosse. 

For those of you unfamiliar with this issue, click below.
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/news/story?id=2457707

I know that this particular decision will not have great consequences on our nation, but it is ultra liberal decision making of this kind that discourages people from working to perform as well as they can, and protects those that choose not to put forth effort.  In my life time, I've seen many a high school kid lay down and conceit if things aren't going well for the team.  You have to really coach the kids up at that point, and tell them to fall down in the open field because his touchdown might hurt the team next week. 

I know not all New Englanders believe in this.  I just can't believe that there are enough to pass a rule such as this.  Ithink it's crazy and destructive. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on June 02, 2006, 07:19:14 AM
How is playing anyone from outside of the conference this coming season?  I know the gulls are, but anyone else?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on June 02, 2006, 04:31:12 PM
Quote from: gullgrad on June 02, 2006, 07:19:14 AM
How is playing anyone from outside of the conference this coming season? I know the gulls are, but anyone else?

future headline... Engineers Stomp Gulls 35-14
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Touchdown Tommy on June 02, 2006, 05:00:08 PM
Monkey Stomp Monkey Stomp Monkey Stomp
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on June 09, 2006, 08:31:10 AM
hmmmm no posts in a week... they fear the monkey foot.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: tdpass on June 09, 2006, 07:55:27 PM
Furture headline: "Salve lights up the scoreboards"
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 09, 2006, 09:15:37 PM
Quote from: tdpass on June 09, 2006, 07:55:27 PM
Furture headline: "Salve lights up the scoreboards"

Have they been leaving them dark before?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on June 10, 2006, 10:42:23 AM
It should be an interesting year in the NEFC. New coaches , several new players in skilled positions for a lot of teams...i think alot of success will be in who has done well recruiting players the last few years and transfers....I see alot of parody this season...What are your thoughts.....I would like to see more games scheduled outside the league. Were getting  close to the start og the 06 season.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on June 12, 2006, 10:05:05 AM
Lets see, its early to predict without knowing any recruits, but why not.  I think Endicott has been building for this year, we all know that, but Curry is still right up there.  The other side has to be a crap shoot.  FSC and BSC lost alot of guys, Worcester seems like a smart pick, but Coast Guard could cause some problems.  Its a good thing CGA went to that side, I would not want to play them.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on June 19, 2006, 06:51:22 PM
Wheres lancerfan?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on June 22, 2006, 05:14:52 PM
Well, the season is still a little bit away, but here's a shot in the dark.  I've been a long time viewer and finally decided to voice my opinion. 

As for the outlook of this year, sorry gullgrad, but you may have opened your mouth a bit too early.  As with many schools, this year Endicott was bitten by the graduation bug.  Although only graduating 9 seniors, 4 were offensive linemen who had been playing such for 4 years.  It will be hard to get the line to gel but if anyone can do it coach Wells can.  On the good side, EC may have a shot as they have a much easier schedule this year (dropping Fitchburg for one, and picking up MA maritime and plymouth state).  However, Festa is coming off of a 1,000 yard season and the underclassmen will finally be able to show off their talent. 

With the loss of Nelson and graduation I don't see Curry being as powerful as they have in the past few years.  From what I hear, the new coach at Curry isa real jerk and the players hate playing for him so many are considering tranferring.  Look on the bright side guys....the door at Fitchburg is always open to juiced up tranfers.

Suprisingly, I wouldn't be shocked if Coast Guard made a lot of noise in the NEFC this year.  As we all know the NEFC doesn't have much of a reputation of being a powerhouse conference and aside from Endicott, many teams are scared to play outside of the conference.  CG has been playing a variety of teams for awhile and moving into the weaker NEFC could be a chance for them to shine. 

As for the overall conference champion, I will pick Endicott.  Being held out of the championship because of a questionable holding call to Curry, then being left out of the ECACs left a sour taste in their mouth.  Along with an easier conference schedule EC will not being taking anything for granted and SHOULD have a productive year.  Now that all the other teams have graduated the good middle linebackers the gulls should be able to help their outside run game with a few middle traps.  The, I think, 26 senior leaders should help as well.

I look forward to this season and hearing all of you tell me how dumb I am
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 23, 2006, 12:24:01 AM
I won't call you dumb for thinking Coast Guard will do well in dropping down a level conferencewise. I absolutely think the same thing. But I would respect them more at 4-5 in the Liberty League than 7-2 in the NEFC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on June 24, 2006, 07:21:17 PM
I've heard that the Commonwealth Coast Conference (CCC), that schools like Salve and Endicott play in for other sports, is going to take the best 5 or so teams from the CCC and move them into another conference. Any chance that could ever happen with the NEFC?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on June 25, 2006, 10:03:28 PM
I think the NEFC schools like the playoff birth that the conference gets and wouldnt get in a new conference.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on June 26, 2006, 01:14:11 PM
If coast guard reverts back to the team they were 10 years ago the NEFC might break that playoff curse.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on July 07, 2006, 09:12:08 AM
Who does everyone think will be the highest ranked NEFC team in the kickoff magazine?  I woul dhave to guys my boys at Endicott are right up there with Curry and Bridgewater.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on July 07, 2006, 07:19:16 PM
they will have Curry ranked higher than any other NEFC, unless Coast Guard is higher. Curry won the NEFC last year and until they are knocked off they are still the best team
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 07, 2006, 10:07:24 PM
We don't work that way. We re-evaluate with every ranking.

I think Curry may have lost something this offseason ... hmm ... what was it ...

Coast Guard was 187 last year. I don't think they're going to be tops among NEFC teams.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on July 17, 2006, 04:46:07 PM
Pre season All Americans came out today, and congrats to them! Anyone think that the NEFC should have anyone listed? If so, then who?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on July 21, 2006, 10:21:09 AM
I do not feel as if anyone needed to be listed.  I honestly can even think of a star in the league.  Maybe that LB from Curry. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: tdpass on July 22, 2006, 01:37:29 AM
Quote from: gullgrad on July 21, 2006, 10:21:09 AM
I do not feel as if anyone needed to be listed.  I honestly can even think of a star in the league.  Maybe that LB from Curry. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FBALLguy on July 24, 2006, 11:23:52 AM
Your gonna tell me that a kid who led the entire country in tackles per game isnt even a star in his own league that kid Meuse from Nichols, though on a terrible team last year, should and Im sure he did get consideration for pre-season All-American. But to say that he's not a star in his league is alittle rediculous.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on July 24, 2006, 03:40:53 PM
To say that Meuse IS a star in this league is rediculous. I cannot count the number of games that Meuse was no where near the play, sometimes not even on the field, and he got credit for the tackle. I think it would benefit the announcers to learn the names of other players so that others can get the credit they deserve. If Meuse was such a good defensive player then why did Nichols have one of the worst defenses in the league? Now, if Meuse in fact did make those tackles when he was on the sideline, then my vote goes to him
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FBFanatic on July 24, 2006, 09:08:26 PM
I've put two kids through the NEFC and continually check up on players/standings in the league. When i came across this post about Muese not being a player I had no other option but to laugh. For someone to say Muese is not a star in this league is just crazy. Yes Nichols is not what is was in the past, but that does not mean this kids not a great player. He is doing it all without a supporting cast which makes it even more impressive in my eyes. Any good 0-Coordinator should be able to come up with a game plan to take Muese out of the game defensively and make the other "players" make plays. Anyone who can lead the entire country in a statistical category must be a terrific player no matter what the circumstances may be. If Muese was playing at Curry College or Fitchburg State he would be just as good if not better. Their SID's do an amazing job at getting their players names and accomplishments out there and recognized. I have many acquaintances throughout the league and i heard all but good things about this kids play during last years season. I'm guessing the people throwing their 2 sense out on here are either current players in the league trying to bring down his ability, or a parent of another Nichols "player". Lets just appreciate the play of the student athletes throughout the league instead of knocking someone anytime you have a chance. 

I will agree with the comment about Curry's LB. He is also a player who deserves recognition as one of the stars in the league. By no means are there only 2 stars in the NEFC this year though, i'd like to hear who others think are top players for the upcoming season.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FBFanatic on July 24, 2006, 09:17:10 PM
Oh and i almost forgot to hit on the idiotic statement made by InTheMix....
Why wasn't Nichols College's defense good if Meuse was such a great player? You can't be good on either side of the ball if you only have one "good" player. Any women or child could tell you that. That just goes to show your lack of knowledge about the game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: tdpass on July 24, 2006, 09:58:57 PM
Allow me to clear my name by letting everyone know I copied and pasted the statement by gullgrad to mock such a comment.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on July 24, 2006, 10:10:03 PM
Quote from: FBFanatic on July 24, 2006, 09:17:10 PM
Oh and i almost forgot to hit on the idiotic statement made by InTheMix....
Why wasn't Nichols College's defense good if Meuse was such a great player? You can't be good on either side of the ball if you only have one "good" player. Any women or child could tell you that. That just goes to show your lack of knowledge about the game.

I bet you if you put Edgerrin James on Nichols they would win more than half their games, maybe all of them so......what your saying isnt completly true.  Billerica kids are tough though.  That kid from Billerica goin to BC is a stud.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on July 24, 2006, 10:15:53 PM
My lack of knowledge??? I played football for 12 years including 4 in the NEFC.  2 years playing against Meuse and having my blocking assignment be to take him out of the play.  And you can say what you want about that.  To tell me that I have no idea what I am talking is not saying much for you. My comment about Nichols defense not being good was because you were making Meuse out to be some sort of a NEFC football god.  The truth is, Meuse is a decent player.  He was on a bad team, which made him look even better.  He did make a lot of tackles in the games I played against him, however, like I said, he wasn't even close to many plays and got credit for the tackle.  To me, that isn't deserving of any recognition.  You talk about looking up stats....the stat to look at is the stat that in last years NEFC match up between Endicott and Nichols Meuse was given credit for almost double the amount of offensive plays that Endicott ran....interesting. Say what you want, Meuse can prove me wrong and I wish him the best of luck.  That's what i have to say.

Curry's LB is very good. He flies to the ball and has great anticipation.  The only thing is that the NEFC isn't a powerhouse conference and that will be holding back any players from getting recognition they deserve.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 24, 2006, 10:24:12 PM
Quote from: FBFanatic on July 24, 2006, 09:08:26 PM
I've put two kids through the NEFC and continually check up on players/standings in the league. When i came across this post about Muese not being a player I had no other option but to laugh. For someone to say Muese is not a star in this league is just crazy. Yes Nichols is not what is was in the past, but that does not mean this kids not a great player.

I appreciate that you want to support the person who uses the same computer that you do, but to pretend to be an impartial observer is a little bit of a stretch, isn't it?

Whether you are the kid himself or his parent/brother/etc., that isn't acceptable. And you know I know what I'm talking about. I can see the e-mail addresses used to register.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on July 24, 2006, 10:27:42 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on July 24, 2006, 10:15:53 PM
My lack of knowledge??? I played football for 12 years including 4 in the NEFC.  2 years playing against Meuse and having my blocking assignment be to take him out of the play.  And you can say what you want about that.  To tell me that I have no idea what I am talking is not saying much for you. My comment about Nichols defense not being good was because you were making Meuse out to be some sort of a NEFC football god.  The truth is, Meuse is a decent player.  He was on a bad team, which made him look even better.  He did make a lot of tackles in the games I played against him, however, like I said, he wasn't even close to many plays and got credit for the tackle.  To me, that isn't deserving of any recognition.  You talk about looking up stats....the stat to look at is the stat that in last years NEFC match up between Endicott and Nichols Meuse was given credit for almost double the amount of offensive plays that Endicott ran....interesting. Say what you want, Meuse can prove me wrong and I wish him the best of luck.  That's what i have to say.

Curry's LB is very good. He flies to the ball and has great anticipation.  The only thing is that the NEFC isn't a powerhouse conference and that will be holding back any players from getting recognition they deserve.

Endicott ran 81 plays and Meuse had 30 total tackles (UA/A).  Thats from the Endicott scorebook anyway......
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on July 24, 2006, 10:36:20 PM
This Meuse kid better get used to all this attention.  I heard there were 13 NFL scouts watching him and taking notes on his bathroom etiquette and techniques. 

I kind of feel bad for the guy.  Let him play the season out.  God forbid he didn't make the pre-season All-American team.  It's the NEFC!  D3's equivalent of the Cape Ann League.  If he wanted all the accolades, he would have gone to a real school.  Let him be an All-Conference NEFC guy and call it a day. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on July 24, 2006, 10:46:36 PM
I remember playing Billerica in the pop warner playoffs back in 1987.  Some RB named Mastrianni or something ran for probably 10 touchdowns and 1000 yards against us and then 'We are the Champions' came over the loudspeaker after the game was over.  I swear to this day Billerica Pop Warner cheated with the weights and ages.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FootballFriend2all on July 24, 2006, 10:57:10 PM
First off I'd like to just make one comment about the Bryan Meuse saga.  If anyone, who had a brain and open mind, was at the Endicott-Nichols Game on that fine October day you would have seen Bryan make all of his 30 tackles.....Most assisted by he still had about 14 I believe unassisted.  If you dont have special needs I think you will be able to see that.  But in any case, yes he did benefit from having a miserable offense, but that does not make him not a great player.  He single handedly kept nichols in that game as it was as game until the 4th quater as the gulls scored late to blow it open (29-0 w for endicott).....for someone to sit here and tell us how inflated statistics benefit for players on a bad team, that day he did it in a game that his team was in it.  Im not coming down too hard on that endicott player who had a terrible time misjudging reality, because they are a HELL  of a team who are coached by a great coach and are going places, but the fact that it was a direct shot at one of the best overall player (Punts, Kickoffs, top 3 linebacker in the league) is just silly....


I think the league is going to be fun to watch this year.....good luck to all
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on July 24, 2006, 10:58:23 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on July 24, 2006, 10:46:36 PM
I remember playing Billerica in the pop warner playoffs back in 1987.  Some RB named Mastrianni or something ran for probably 10 touchdowns and 1000 yards against us and then 'We are the Champions' came over the loudspeaker after the game was over.  I swear to this day Billerica Pop Warner cheated with the weights and ages.

Mike Mastrullo.  He was probably the most incredible High School athlete I ever saw.  He ended up getting drafted and playing baseball.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on July 24, 2006, 11:07:26 PM
Quote from: lewdogg11 on July 24, 2006, 10:58:23 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on July 24, 2006, 10:46:36 PM
I remember playing Billerica in the pop warner playoffs back in 1987.  Some RB named Mastrianni or something ran for probably 10 touchdowns and 1000 yards against us and then 'We are the Champions' came over the loudspeaker after the game was over.  I swear to this day Billerica Pop Warner cheated with the weights and ages.

Mike Mastrullo.  He was probably the most incredible High School athlete I ever saw.  He ended up getting drafted and playing baseball.

Really? Did he play football in college?  Ill always remember that day and hearing his name over and over on the loudspeaker.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on July 24, 2006, 11:14:18 PM
I got this off the Billerica High Hall of Fame induction...

Mike Mastrullo's accomplishments on the football field, baseball diamond and basketball court have made him one of the most talked about athletes in BMHS history. Mike earned a Master of Sport Award by being a four-year varsity starter in baseball and football and a year of varsity basketball. Overall his impact on the MVC was shown by his 3 time Football Globe All-Scholastic Awards in three different positions, 2 time Baseball Globe All- Scholastic Awards, 2 time Lowell Sun Player of the Year in baseball and football, and 3 time MVC All Star and All Conference Player in baseball and football. In each of the sports his impact is still remembered by BMHS coaches and supporters.

In Mike's sophomore year he started on Coach McDermott's 1992 MVC basketball championship team and set a school record for Coach Flynn's football team by making two 98-yard touchdowns receptions. Mike continued to dazzle opponents over the nexttwo football seasons by quarterbacking Billerica to a 1993 10-win season and the first Billerica Super Bowl victory. In his senior season, Captain Mastullo led BMHS football to a state title with a 27-7 victory over Woburn. In the game Mike ran for a touchdown, passed for two others and made a key interception. The standout season got Mike national recognition as he was chosen the Gatorade New England Player of the Year, sharing the limelight with another quarterback from Washington, Drew Bledsoe. USA Today also chose him the 1993 Massachusetts Player of the Year.

Coach Sidorovich was happy to have Mike's talent on the baseball field as he excelled in multiple positions. Baseball would eventually be the path Mike chose as he passed on a Division I football scholarship to sign with the Cleveland Indians. He played single A ball until an injury ended his career and sent him Boston College where he graduated with a double major in history and education. When the "94" Mike looks back he can be proud of all he did for BMHS athletics. He attributes his success to his father Jim's encouragement and his mother Linda's support. Mike is currently teaching history at Tyngsboro High School and coaching football at Burlington High School. He and his wife Jen, also a former BMHS athlete, live in Tyngsboro and are expecting their first child in a few months
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on July 24, 2006, 11:22:00 PM
wow, Im just putting the two together now.  I vaugely remember hearing about him now in the football- all scholastics.  Im tryin to remember who won the superbowls those years.  I remember Wellesley won the d2 in 1992.  The MVC might have been d1 still before the switch later on.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on July 24, 2006, 11:29:45 PM
just found this.......

http://mysite.verizon.net/red6321/super.htm
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FootballFriend2all on July 24, 2006, 11:37:58 PM
Just a quick stat update, sorry im a bit slow myself on this stuff, 2 games against endicott Bryan Meuse 44 total tackles against endicott so please lets take the focus off of you having to "shut him down".......BUT 2 W's for endicott, nevertheless, bryan meuse looking pretty dominating



stay strong everyone!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on July 24, 2006, 11:39:03 PM
You beat me to it.  

I remember being at the 1994 Superbowl, New Bedford vs. Peabody played at BU.  Probably the best HS game I ever saw.  Peabody had Steve Lomasney at QB, he later caught for the PawSox.  We played New Bedford that year and they were ridiculous.  Jo-Jo Goodine was their tailback and Rudy Bulgar was their QB.  They were the sickest HS team probably still to this day that I've ever seen.  We played at New Bedford and almost beat them that year, and if we did, we may not have gotten out alive.  It was the scariest place i've ever played, and at the time...I played in Lawrence.  So that's saying something.  The place had like 10K people there for our game, and it felt as if at anytime a riot could break out.  Absolutely nuts.  Never saw a crowd like that in college.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on July 24, 2006, 11:51:29 PM
Yea maybe it was because we were kids but MA football seemed more bigtime back then.  I was at the 1989 d1 superbowl between Walpole and Brockton.  I think Brockton hadnt lost in like 3-4 seasons at that point when they were ranked real high in the USA today national poll (maybe even #1 or #2 in the country).  That game was played at Foxboro (Sullivan) Stadium and I swear to this day the stadium was almost filled on both sides.  What a friggin game.  Really inspired me to want to work hard to play football.

I remember my high school played Brockton that year and was down like 28-0 at the end of the first quarter.  Brockton had both campbell bros (BC rbs), Rudy Harris (Auburn RB and later Tampa Bucs) Anthony Lewis (UMiami DL) , one of the Marciano bros (BC starting SS), Bob Zurinskis (Umaine FS).  Best team I ever saw.  Then Walpole, also with a bunch of studs (QB, Manning dont remember where he went,) Cox (BYU and Arizona Cardnials OL),

Walpole was about half the size (literally) and ended up beating Brockton 6-2.  I remember Walpole's RB was some little guy that carried Lewis for about 10 yards one run.  Awsome game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on July 24, 2006, 11:59:16 PM
Brockton High School Football


1987

Pennebury High of Pennsylvania 27 22
Newton North High School 26-0
Somerville High School 34-6
BC High School 21-3
Quincy High School 56-14
N. Quincy High School 26-6
Leominster High School 13-0
Quincy High School 21-0
Cambridge High School 48-0
Waltham High School 28-7
Woburn High School 28-0


1988

Rome High School of New York 28-24
Baltimore Poly of Maryland 21-7
Sachem High of New York 35-7
BC High School 21-6
Xaverian Bros. High School 52-17
Cambridge High School 48-0
Leominster High School 12-27
Newton North High School 53-18
Brookline High School 40-6
Waltham High School 58-13
Dedham High School 27-16


1989

Sachem High School of New York 35-20
DeMatha High of Maryland 21-14
BC High School 42-6
Xaverian Bros.High School 39-18
Cambridge High School 34-12
Leominster High School 28-6
Newton North High School 48-8
Brookline High School 51-8
Waltham High School 41-6
Walpole High School 2-6

--------------------------------------

I think it was 1988 when Brockton was #1 in the country when they lost to Leominster (of all places) to break the streak.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on July 25, 2006, 12:02:03 AM
I should cite my sources while I stroll down memory lane............

http://www.brocktonpublicschools.com/schools/high/athletics/footballhistory/index.htm
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FBALLguy on July 25, 2006, 02:28:55 AM
Ummm I was just saying he was a good player I wasnt putting him in the hall of fame... I didnt know one player could cause this type of an up roar. Im just a fan of the league and follow its teams and stats and remember being farely taken back by his numbers. Whether they were "padded" or not is a terrible arguement to have that will never go anywhere some have their opinions on it and thats their right. Good day all.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on July 25, 2006, 07:10:18 AM
Finally! that's whatt it takes to get people writing in here huh?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on July 25, 2006, 08:14:32 AM
jeez... LD and JU maybe you 2 should meet up at the boot mill diner in Lowell and discuss your man love for eastern mass HS football over a milk shake.

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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on July 25, 2006, 08:51:23 AM
It's Arthur's Paradis Diner 'Gro.  get your stuff straight.

And JU, bottom line is, Eastern MA HS football, and probably most of HS football around has really gotten watered down.  1., the fans don't care about it anymore and 2., the kids are smaller, weaker, slower, and less talented for the most part.  Friday night's people used to come out in droves to see the HS games. 

FBallGuy, this conversation had nothing to do with you.  JU and I could really care less about a linebacker for Nichols college. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on July 25, 2006, 11:24:15 AM
Enough of this crap.  Anyone who reads these postings knows that gull grad only talks about how great EC is and how they get robbed out of victories, post season invites, and lack of recognition for the EC program.  It seems that In The Mix has decided to join the fight as well.

B. Meuse is a very good lb for a team that is struggling.  Any coach would want him to be part of their defense.

When the NEFC wins a game in the NCAA's players will start getting more recognition.  I'm quite sure that there have been some pre season all Americans from the NEFC there just aren't any chosen this year.  No big deal.  There are some very good players in the NEFC but if you can't name any gull grad then you really don't follow the league and you're just a homer for EC.

EC has done well by playing great defense with very little offense.  I'm sure they'll be tough this year and maybe it is their year.  We shall see...  Don't count out Curry or UMD never mind trying to get through BSC, FSC, Westfield and WSC.  Plymouth will be better and Carven is back at Nichols.  It won't be easy on either side to get to the Championship game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FBALLguy on July 25, 2006, 12:30:44 PM
Interesting that Carvens back didnt know that. That makes them a threat again Id say. But I must agree that the boyd will go through Curry, UMD and Endicott it will be interesting to see if salve, MIT, and WNEC continue to improve along with a healthy Nichols team and the addition of plymouth should make for a very competitive division. Also like to say that I agree with you D3fan that the NEFC gets hurt by its lack of playoff competitiveness so sometimes players who are very good get left behind in the process. Not saying its incorrect to do that, its actually very correct, at the same time it makes it fun for the players involved and gives them a challenge and something to work towards. Not exactly gorundbreaking stuff I know its stuff thats been beaten to death on this board but its quite true the NEFC will be considered an unworthy conference until they beat some one of significance. Look forward to hearing more from you guys throughout the season Im sure we'll have plenty to talk about.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan06 on July 25, 2006, 12:35:14 PM
easy, easy, easy

everyone so testy about things and the season is still weeks away.

i think we can all agree that there are going to be "homers" out there that consistently "ring the bell" of their chosen team (gullgrad). there is nothing wrong with that - you see it on every board here.

meuse is a good player, who while he may have been given a tackle or two (or three) by the stat guy makes ALOT of plays for the Bison defense. i agree that coaches across the league would rather play with him than against him.

and while endicott's defense does a great job to say they have little offense is misleading - they were ranked in the top 20 in the country in rushing - that helps control the clock and keep the opposing offense on the sideline thereby helping the defense. just because a team does not put up 50 pts a game or throw it 50 times a game does not mean they have "little" offense.

just my 2 cents...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on July 25, 2006, 12:39:45 PM
Quote from: lewdogg11 on July 25, 2006, 08:51:23 AM
It's Arthur's Paradis Diner 'Gro.  get your stuff straight.

And JU, bottom line is, Eastern MA HS football, and probably most of HS football around has really gotten watered down.  1., the fans don't care about it anymore and 2., the kids are smaller, weaker, slower, and less talented for the most part.  Friday night's people used to come out in droves to see the HS games. 

FBallGuy, this conversation had nothing to do with you.  JU and I could really care less about a linebacker for Nichols college. 

I agree.  I think the old system had its benefits.  While I like the playoff system, I liked the old days when some committee said basically.  "Hey Walpole, your playing Brockton in the d1 Superbowl in Foxboro.  I dont care if Brockton has 6,000 students and Walpole has 700.  Those are the best teams, you guys are playing in the d1 championship game."
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on July 25, 2006, 03:37:48 PM
I'm not jumping on any teams wagon or anything like that and I agree that some players in the NEFC are close to All-American caliber. Maybe one year in the near future we will see one.

I have never said anything about EC getting robbed of victories. A win or a loss is exactly that, it doesn't matter how it happens.

I think Curry might struggle a bit this year.  I have heard that a lot of guys are looking to transfer, but then again, that could open up spots for other unknowns to shine. UMD has a quick defense and could also be tough.  Endicott graduated guys that had been in certain spots for 4 years and could be hard to replace, but if there's anything we've learned in their short time it's not to count them out.

I'm not sure if MIT graduated their QB from last year but he was a great player and had terrific vision.  If he is still around and they get more numbers for players they could be a suprise.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: tdpass on July 25, 2006, 06:02:51 PM
Dang, it's as if salve doesn't even exist.  New head coach, only 6 seniors graduated, and possibly a whole new offense/defence.  Yet, salve never has any supporters anywhere.  But I guess 3 two win seasons in a row will do that to you. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on July 25, 2006, 06:31:03 PM
I was just thinking that...seems no one supports salve.  There were a few games where they were a TD or two away from pulling out a big win.  Experience will help with that.  I heard that they only practice a couple days a week...I don't want to spread rumors, just something I heard
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on July 25, 2006, 07:44:13 PM
They only lost by a touchdown or 2?  Damn, they were almost undefeated!  Need more 'defence'.  And Cow bell.

FYI...I know people hold those signs with a 'D' and a 'Fence', but it's actually spelled defense.  That's ridiculas.

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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on July 26, 2006, 08:08:51 AM
I am enjoying the posting, this is fun to get into.  In the boyd, I would have to agree with FBALL Guy as the side will have to go through Curry first.  UMD, and my Gulls are in the mix too.  And you know what, WNEC is up and coming.  Who would care to guess about PSU.  Will they make any noise?

The other side, Bogan, seems to be Bridgewaters to loose.  I do like Coast Guard though, seeing how they will "dropping" to the NEFC, the level might help them alot.  I think Fitchburg has had its time.  I think they loose that MLB and the QB.  Thats hard to overcome.  I did however like the way Mass Maritime is moving.  Just some thoughts from a EC fan trying to be a little unbias.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FBALLguy on July 27, 2006, 03:01:17 PM
Any interesting non-conference opponents this year for NEFC teams or are they sticking to the usual, softy other division?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on July 27, 2006, 05:48:35 PM
There are only a few teams that are willing to play outside the NEFC.  PSU is taking on Mt. Ida whci ould be a good game.  MEM plays Becker.  Salve plays SUNY Maritime.  CGA continues its tradition of playing Kings Point and this could be a good one too.  I think Kings Point has won the last couple of games against CGA.  EC plays two non-conference games, one at Hartwick and a home game against RPI.  EC might have achance against Hartwick, but they need to hope to stay in game against RPI.

I am not sure why the NEFC teams don't schedule outside the conference.  I suppose they are afraid of losing and getting a bad record.  Anyone have any insight why the NEFC don't play many non-conference games?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AptosDad on July 27, 2006, 10:24:37 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on July 25, 2006, 03:37:48 PM

I'm not sure if MIT graduated their QB from last year but he was a great player and had terrific vision.  If he is still around and they get more numbers for players they could be a suprise.

You're talking about Rick Mancuso, who won the conference ROOKIE of the year award.  He's back for his sophomore season this fall.  Nice to hear someone speak of MIT and prospects for good football in the same topic.
From MIT's website:
"Mancuso's first season behind center was the best ever for an MIT quarterback. Despite playing in just seven games, he set Institute records for completions (135) and attempts (282), while tossing for an MIT season-record 1,587 yards." 

No mention of turnovers, but the MIT defense got a lot of action......and gave up a lot of points.  I'd like to see their numbers up this year too, but haven't heard anything.  Last year's roster of 44 was mostly sophomores and freshmen, and I know they started 10 freshmen in most games.  Maybe there's hope for their season.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on July 28, 2006, 03:24:54 AM
On three......

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FART NOISE!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefan on July 28, 2006, 03:26:16 PM
The NEFC football teams (at least the State schools) have a limited budget.... The majority of most of the state schools staffs are part time (teachers) Until recently a number of the schools had part time coaches- but then a few went full time like Endicott, Salve, WNEC and etc.. Endicott is throwing all kinds of money into thier program.... They went to Canada (I believe..not sure) for Spring drills They will eventually reap some of the benefits...Bridgewater has a young full time coach(works in the fitness center) and he will be bringing a huge freshmen class ...UMass Dartmouth is ALL Part Time staff..... The NEFC has played numerous teams outside of the conf but still in the NE region- West Ct, Springfield, Coast Guard, WPI, Merrimack in the past but with budget crunches, travel costs, etc .... Not many teams will travel
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan06 on July 28, 2006, 07:09:09 PM
i agree that budgets control the ability to travel etc for most teams.

i also imagine that finding matching dates that do not conflict with the nefc schedule is difficult. looking at the schedule, those games have to be played early in the year. that might also require teams to report to camp early, something that requires additional funding at most schools.

money makes the world go 'round.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on July 29, 2006, 09:31:33 AM
Thanks for the replies on why the NEFC teams don't play outside the conference.  The budget issue makes a lot of sense.  Yes, I also heard that EC did some spring training in Canada.  I guess the private schools can afford to throw more money into their programs. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on July 29, 2006, 09:34:08 AM
I think MIT could have a pretty good season this year and next.  They were looking pretty good at the end of last season and as has been stated have a young team.  That soph. QB is really talented and could be what they need to get them some wins.  They need some help in the RB department though so there is a threat of a run and not all passing by the QB.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan06 on July 31, 2006, 12:11:19 PM
DOES THE NEFC EVER DO A COACHES POLL LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER CONFERENCES AROUND THE COUNTRY?

WHERE DOES EVERYONE THINK THE TEAMS FROM THE BOYD AND BOGAN WILL RANK IN THEIR RESPECTIVE DIVISIONS?

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FBALLguy on August 04, 2006, 08:56:54 AM
Camp is less than two weeks away for most schools. anay interesting camp battles that we can look forward too?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on August 04, 2006, 12:51:13 PM
A few new coaches around the lague this year right?? Who is going to have the best year?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on August 07, 2006, 09:53:41 AM
It should be really interesting in both divisions. New coaches and a lot of new people in the skill positions. New qb's and rbs. I also think there are transfers from 1aa and 2 going to Westfield, Bridgewater Curry and others...What do you hear? Camp begins on the 19th which is late.....I think depth will be key: thats why recruiting over the last couple of years will show .  I expect Curry and Endicott to battle it out in their division, the other who knows?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Random Task on August 11, 2006, 03:51:57 PM
I've got to say I agree with FBall Guy and Gull those are solid picks. I was reading all the posts, as I have not been frequenting the board, and I wanted to throw in a few comments on the Nichols Bison. They lost their QB last year and that stinks, but as a coach you would think you would recruit someone who had some skill as a back-up and not rely on the skill of your little bro alone to win games (Nichols QB and the HC are siblings). That is a failure on the elder Carven's part, people get hurt in football and you always need a contingency. When I was in college our QB went down and we started a BU my senior year and we managed to win a few because we had a good supporting cast, and a balanced team. This shows the coach's inability to recruit talent. As for Mesue I haven't seen him play, but he has some solid stats and may warrant consideration as a preseason All-American. However its tough to be a preseason all American out of the NEFC because of the reputation of the conference has nationally. Outsiders think its easy for a marginal athlete to rack up stats against poor teams, I don't agree with that logic but that is the perception and it makes it difficult.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan06 on August 11, 2006, 04:26:57 PM
Task,

I believe Nichols lost not only the starting QB, but then went through 4 more QBs that were lost to injury etc etc. I also think they lost a total of like 10 starters to season ending injuries early in the year. Nichols always has a large roster so I don't think you can say he has not recruited "talent". I am not trying to make excuses for the Bison and I agree you need to have a contingency plan in place - but what do you do when the wheel fall off as they sometimes do?

With those players back (I heard Mike Craven was coming back for a 5th year) Nichols could be right back in the mix.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Random Task on August 11, 2006, 04:51:59 PM
I was not aware they lost so much, that really stinks for the kids that played there last year. Going O'fer is never fun, but the team has been trending downward the last few years and has had a tough time compeating with the upper echelon teams in the NEFC, but I hope your right and with the core coming back they rip it up. I never want to see a team do bad. However Belecheck won't get a pass from fans if Brady, Dillon, Bruschi, and Seymor all get hurt and the Pats loose all thier games. I know its the NFL and you can sign guys off the street and it is a strech of an analogy, but I think if a team goes O'fer its more the Coach's fault than the kids and if the "wheel's fall off" there is an issue. Bill Carven needs to turn his program around, I mean They were playing for the tittle a few years ago.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on August 14, 2006, 08:17:01 PM
I'm curious RANDOM TASK if you have any idea how hard it is to recruit players at the D3 level, especially in New England?  Everyone is recruiting the same player whether they are D2 or D3.  Nichols has had a strong program over the past few years.  Carven (coach) helped put them there.  To say that he hasn't done a good job recruiting is a very ignorant thing to say as well as blaming him for the wheels coming off.  Whenever you loose key players you team will suffer. Loosing Carven (QB) last year really hurt them.  Nichols did have a number of injuries in a year following a number of talented players graduating.  Carven works hard and has a good program.  A few years down doesn't take a way from the success that he has had.

Carven (QB) is coming back and are you really SERIOUS in your comparison of Nichols football and the Pat's?????? Come on.... Give us a break!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on August 15, 2006, 10:36:46 AM

I saw the game that carven got hurt in against Bridgewater....they brought in a frosh who did allright. There is a lot of parody in both leagues and a couple of key injuries here and there can have a be impact. That's why the teams that have recruited well such as Curry year in and year out because of Nelson in the past  and the other schools that have full time head coaches that are constantly talking to High school prospects and have the facilities such as Endicott hold an edge.. Although in this day and age the state schools should compete because of the costs of the private schools. Will see, I think in will be an interesting season in both leagues with some new faces....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on August 15, 2006, 10:50:32 AM
it's been a while, but i just read back 3 pages and here's some insight.....carven was the league leader in all purpose yards for two years and him missing definitely makes a difference, and as ridiculous as the patriots comparison is i can beat it....how long was tom brady out for???(oh yah, he wasn't).

i also read the all-american comment....anyone see that mike sirignano from bsc is a pre-season all-american so it could be about to happen for the NEFC

one final comment......i talked to kids from coast guard academy and from what i hear they're not too promising.....but we'll see
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on August 15, 2006, 11:50:25 AM
Quote from: Random Task on August 11, 2006, 04:51:59 PM
I was not aware they lost so much, that really stinks for the kids that played there last year. Going O'fer is never fun, but the team has been trending downward the last few years and has had a tough time compeating with the upper echelon teams in the NEFC, but I hope your right and with the core coming back they rip it up. I never want to see a team do bad. However Belecheck won't get a pass from fans if Brady, Dillon, Bruschi, and Seymor all get hurt and the Pats loose all thier games. I know its the NFL and you can sign guys off the street and it is a strech of an analogy, but I think if a team goes O'fer its more the Coach's fault than the kids and if the "wheel's fall off" there is an issue. Bill Carven needs to turn his program around, I mean They were playing for the tittle a few years ago.

Ahh....I think Belichek would get a pass if Brady, Dillon Bruschi and Seymour all got hurt.  Even though I think they could get a better backup than Cassell (although Belichek was right on Brady).
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Random Task on August 16, 2006, 01:57:48 PM
To all giving me trash for using the Pats as a comparison to NC, you all should learn how to read, I admit in my post that it was a bit of a strech. Also for those of you who are hopping on me I though I was preaty classy in my posts regarding the Bison, and I genuinly hope they do well. With the exception of 2000 NC has had average teams at best. And even if Carven (QB) had great stats and led the league in yards the team only went 10-10 for 03 and 04. If they had some solid guys on the O-line or at RB than the loss of one guy would have been so detramental as it was. Nichols is a mediocre team and I have allready devoted to much time to them. If they win some games this year you all can say how stupid I am, and if they don't break 500 (as is thier trend) I won't say I told you so. Also the Coach gets the credit when a team wins so then he deserves the blame when they don't, and anyone who doesn't understand that fact, doesn't understand sports.
1999: (6-3, 3-3 NEFC Boyd)
2000: (7-3, 4-2 NEFC Boyd)
2001: (6-4, 5-0 NEFC Boyd)
2002: (5-4, 3-2 NEFC Boyd)
2003: (6-4, 4-2 NEFC Boyd)
2004: (4-6, 3-3 NEFC Boyd)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on August 16, 2006, 03:11:48 PM
the bottom line is anyone who plays his relative is going to get  static. thats why it's good his brother went to Umass.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NCAAFootball67 on August 16, 2006, 06:16:43 PM
First off, I think that you have no point, you showed those records over the past couple of seasons and proved to us a team that was always in the running for a divisional championship, those games against curry could have gone either way, look at the scores, in 2003 Zammnit pulls of a unbelievable 78 yard scramble with :56 seconds to go to beat the bison @ nichols.  So you have no point that Coach carven doesnt run a legit program the man's been offered coordinator jobs at several 1AA schools.  Its tough to recruit D3 expecially at a school with a guy to girl ratio of about 3/1......Its bad, nichols is a team that will consistantly give u a game, and this year was what happens when u get the wrong end of the stick apparently, but i think carven will pull it together.......


On a side note, mike carven his kid brother is a phenominal qb, just watch games, i think ull be impressed, all games ive seen hes been the best player on the field, but just keep an eye out for that and see for yourself....



whats the word worcester/fitchburg/westfield's are they typically strong this year too, cause they all lost a lot................word on the street is MIT, WNEC, and the 2 maritime schools were turning it around also, just looking for opinions
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on August 16, 2006, 07:57:48 PM
Regarding the Nichols situation.  It looks like a lot of people are commenting on the poor performance last season being mainly due to a number of injuries and in particular an injury to the QB.  I know that Nichols had a lot of injuries last season and that does hurt a team.  I was just curious if there were any injuries on the defense.  Everyone was talking about B. Meuse a few weeks ago and he carried the Nichols defense.  Was this due to injuries on the defense or was their defense just so poor that they relied on Meuse to make all of the tackles?  I suspect that Nichols will rebound some this year.  I don't look for them to win the division (Curry will do that again), but I expect they will finish above 500.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan06 on August 16, 2006, 10:41:38 PM
63 Center,

Why do you say Curry is going to win the Division? With Endicott returning so many players, WNEC on the rise and UMD always lurking around the top of the Boyd - why the Colonels?

Just curious....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on August 17, 2006, 07:38:35 PM
d3fan06, 

My rationale for picking Curry is based on a winning tradition.  I realize that they have a new coach, but until someone knocks them off I have to go with them.  I don't disgaree that Endicott and UMD will be right there fighting for the divisional championship.  Endicott lost a lot in leadership with the lost of the Seniors last year that built the program over the first 4 years.    Although they have a lot coming back they did lose some key players to graduation.  UMD has a lot to prove this year after a somewhat disappointing year last year.  I think it will be an interesting year and I may be all wet with my pick of Curry.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on August 19, 2006, 11:21:58 AM
I see that Endicott has scheduled two JV games this year.  A program that just started 5 years ago and they already are scheduling JV games; that is amazing.  This should help keep some of the younger players around who get disillusuions thinking they should be starting their first year.  It also should help make EC a strong contender for NEFC champs.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on August 20, 2006, 01:57:16 PM
When EC applied to the NEFC they were asked what there budget was going to be... Teams like Coast Guard, Plymouth, and Mt. Ida were denied because there budgets were too high.  It seems to me that the league is no longer concerned with keeping within certain budgetary limits as the private schools continue to spend more and more.  That's why there have been some rumblings about the state schools breaking away from the league. 

Soon enough the state schools will not be able to compete in the NEFC.  I know people have argued that the state schools are cheaper which allows them to compete for recruits but the privates can counter with grants and less stringent academic requirements.  (Not including MIT and CC in the lower academic category)  The fact that EC has a JV team, a seemingly unlimited budget and a full time coaching staff should have them in contention every year regardless of how long they have had a program. Just my opinion!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on August 20, 2006, 04:04:15 PM
EC does not have an unlimited budget for football or for any sport.  The teams raise money for a number of the things they need.  For example, EC football players did some fund raisers last year to help pay for new jerseys.  They also did fund raisers and paid a portion of their trip to Canada.  Secondly, they have pretty high academic standards as well.  They only accept around 800 students out of approximately 5000 that apply.  Yes they do have a full time head coach and a couple of full time assistants, but that appears to be the way that most schools are going now.  I agree that it presents an unfair advantage when the private schools such as EC have bigger football budgets than state schools.  However, as you said some kids won't be able to afford EC and will go to a state school instead.  I am sure that the facilities are not as nice at the State Schools as they are at the private schools either.  Certainly the state schools could form their own league, but then the NEFC might lose their automatic bid to the D3 tournament.  I would guess that over the next dew years, the NEFC will need to make some serious decisions regarding what to do.  Right now they are the biggest conference in D3.  Maybe they should realign with one division being the state schools and the other private schools.   Each division must play every team in their division and 2 cross-over games.  That would provide a fairer schedule.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on August 20, 2006, 04:23:34 PM
Quote from: D3 Fan on August 20, 2006, 01:57:16 PM
When EC applied to the NEFC they were asked what there budget was going to be... Teams like Coast Guard, Plymouth, and Mt. Ida were denied because there budgets were too high.  It seems to me that the league is no longer concerned with keeping within certain budgetary limits as the private schools continue to spend more and more.  That's why there have been some rumblings about the state schools breaking away from the league. 



Ah....Where did you get this information?

*I will motify this message and add that the infomation stated above by d3fan is not true.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on August 20, 2006, 06:22:46 PM
D3Fan...you think that the fact that EC has money and a full-time staff means that they should be a contender every year?? so you're telling me that the fact that it's in only it's 4th varsity season means nothing? as long as a school has money and coaches they will win, is that what you're telling me?

all athletes at Endicott must attend manditory fund-raisers throughout the year.  for example, the LAX team does an auction every year,  and some of the teams work a couple of the patriots games every year.  any school in the NEFC and the US can do this stuff to EARN money for their teams.  all is takes is a little organization.

as far as the academic standards, EC has some of the highest standards for academics within the NEFC. Yes, they may give academic aid for payment, but the $4,000 max benefit doesn't really make a dent in the $30,000 + payment for a year
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on August 20, 2006, 11:42:58 PM
Johnny all I can say is that I know.  (believe me or don't) it doesn't matter much to me.  I know what I've been told and trust the people who have told me.  Do you really think that there will be written documentation to back my statement or contradict it?

In the mix what I am saying is that in the NEFC if you have a school that is dedicated to winning football games and support the team and coaches there is no reason that you shouldn't be contending regardless of having a program that has been in existence for only 4 years.  I am not bashing the EC program or coaches because I know they have worked hard to be competitive.  They have done a great job coaching their kids and have put them in a position to win.

Quoteany school in the NEFC and the US can do this stuff to EARN money for their teams.  all is takes is a little organization.
I go back to school support and full time coaches.   Not that other programs can not raise money but the time and the effort for part time coaches or for programs without the support of their administration put's them at a disadvantage.

Quoteas far as the academic standards, EC has some of the highest standards for academics within the NEFC. Yes, they may give academic aid for payment, but the $4,000 max benefit doesn't really make a dent in the $30,000 + payment for a year

Come on.... can you really say with a straight face that EC, at least in the first 2 years, didn't let in some players without questionable academic records? $4000 might not make a dent but what player doesn't want to be able to say that he received a scholarship to play???  If the administration supports the program coaches get the players they want regardless of their grades or financial need...

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan06 on August 21, 2006, 08:21:27 AM
EVERY SCHOOL in the NEFC (and beyand, NESCACs etc) have players that might not meet the highest academic standards of their respective schools.

However, I do not think it is the case at Endicott, or any other NEFC that they just open the doors and say "come on in" just because you play football. I think if you looked across the board at the entire class (all students - not just football) at any school you will see a certain percentage of students that are admitted with a lower academic profile - for whatever reason. I would hope and imagine that the football programs in the NEFC would mirror - percentage-wise - the same number of "tips" or whatever you would like to call them.

With 29 or 30 seniors (according to the schools website), it appears that Endicott has retained much of that large class and that the guys who were allegedly "tipped" in are still in school and apparently on track to graduate in 4 years.

THAT is ultimately the goal in D3.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on August 21, 2006, 09:10:05 AM

Bottom line in life and football, is what you put into it is what you get out of it..
I know that that many of the schools run a real strict off- season program and that some of the schools actually get out to the high schools and recruit energetically and with conviction. Others will make a phone call here and there
and send out a form letter. I do believe that the programs with full time head coaches are more committed in BUILDING A PROGRAM.... Plus let's remember that it is not just the head coach but the STAFF that helps make a winning program...Although I do know that the private schools recruit good players that  would not get into any of the state schools...unbelievable....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on August 21, 2006, 07:03:14 PM
Quote from: D3 Fan on August 20, 2006, 11:42:58 PM
Johnny all I can say is that I know.  (believe me or don't) it doesn't matter much to me.  I know what I've been told and trust the people who have told me.  Do you really think that there will be written documentation to back my statement or contradict it?

In the mix what I am saying is that in the NEFC if you have a school that is dedicated to winning football games and support the team and coaches there is no reason that you shouldn't be contending regardless of having a program that has been in existence for only 4 years.  I am not bashing the EC program or coaches because I know they have worked hard to be competitive.  They have done a great job coaching their kids and have put them in a position to win.

Quoteany school in the NEFC and the US can do this stuff to EARN money for their teams.  all is takes is a little organization.
I go back to school support and full time coaches.   Not that other programs can not raise money but the time and the effort for part time coaches or for programs without the support of their administration put's them at a disadvantage.

Quoteas far as the academic standards, EC has some of the highest standards for academics within the NEFC. Yes, they may give academic aid for payment, but the $4,000 max benefit doesn't really make a dent in the $30,000 + payment for a year

Come on.... can you really say with a straight face that EC, at least in the first 2 years, didn't let in some players without questionable academic records? $4000 might not make a dent but what player doesn't want to be able to say that he received a scholarship to play???  If the administration supports the program coaches get the players they want regardless of their grades or financial need...



First of all Coast Guard AND Plymouth St are joining the NEFC so you were wrong there. 

Second of all, there was no requirement in terms of athletic budgets when it came joining the conference.  Mt Ida, Plymouth St and Coast Guard would have totally different approaches to the way each budget was run anyway.  Email the Mt. Ida AD and she will tell you why they were not invited to the NEFC.  It had nothing to do with budgets.  And I think she would know.

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Now, Endicott has most definetly let in students that are below the academic bar at the school, but that is the case with ALL NEFC schools with maybe of exception of some mass state schools whose coaches are not able to adjust the formula that each school has in regards to letting students in.

And $4000?  Who came up with this number?  Students can get tens of thouands of dollars AT ANY school they want to go to if that school recieves federal funds.


Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on August 21, 2006, 09:56:01 PM
QuoteFirst of all Coast Guard AND Plymouth St are joining the NEFC so you were wrong there.

You got me there Johnny considering my statement about Mt. Ida, PSC, and CC attempting to join the league had nothing to do with this year.  Yes I know CC and PSC are entering the NEFC this year but Mt. Ida and PSC petitioned the league 4 years ago (which is what I was referring to).  Are you sure I'm wrong Johnny or did you misunderstand my statement?

When teams petition the NEFC to join they are asked to put together a portfolio, so to speak, about their school, admission policies, as well as budget and more.  There are many factors that are weighed when programs are accepted or denied into the league.  My comments regarding the acceptance or denial of those teams very much had to do with budgets!  As I said, unless you or the AD were in those discussion meetings you can not prove or disprove what I said.  Believe; don't believe, it doesn't much matter to me.  I was just trying to have an informative discussion about the league based on my knowledge, beliefs and thoughts which is what I thought we did here.

The $4000 quote came from InTheMix.  I agree that students can get a lot of financial aide if they qualify.  What the private schools can do is offer extra incentives in the form of grants.  In some schools coaches have a say who and how much a perspective player might get.  For the most part, at least in the NEFC, State schools don't have that luxary.

Yes, all schools can get certain players in.  The Ivy's have there own academic index that players must fall with in for a player to be accepted.  They get a couple that is even lower every year but these are for the blue chippers with pretty high academic indexes to begin with.  The question is how many a coach is allowed by the institution.  The Mass State schools are supposed to have the same criteria. The privates make their own.  This puts the State schools at a disadvantage but it can also work against the private schools. 

Mt. Ida, for example, when they were starting a program, let everyone in.  The problem with that was a high turnover rate year to year.  New faces every year make it tough to put a competitive product on the field.  Mt. Ida is starting to have success because they've tightened up their admission policies (opinion) and are keeping kids in the program for 3 and 4 years.  Does that mean that the same student athlete at Mt. Ida or other privates will get into the State schools?  Some, yes, but most, I don't know.  I do know that in the past players who couldn't get into there first choice used a school like Mt. Ida as a stepping stone to get their grades up so that they could transfer out.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan06 on August 22, 2006, 10:45:53 AM
With the non-scholarship nature of D3 it is ILLEGAL for coaches to have a say in how much "grant" a student-athlete receives. That is an NCAA rule so that the average grant packages given to student-athletes must mirror that of the general student population.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on August 22, 2006, 02:16:53 PM
Quote from: D3 Fan on August 21, 2006, 09:56:01 PM
QuoteFirst of all Coast Guard AND Plymouth St are joining the NEFC so you were wrong there.

You got me there Johnny considering my statement about Mt. Ida, PSC, and CC attempting to join the league had nothing to do with this year.  Yes I know CC and PSC are entering the NEFC this year but Mt. Ida and PSC petitioned the league 4 years ago (which is what I was referring to).  Are you sure I'm wrong Johnny or did you misunderstand my statement?

When teams petition the NEFC to join they are asked to put together a portfolio, so to speak, about their school, admission policies, as well as budget and more.  There are many factors that are weighed when programs are accepted or denied into the league.  My comments regarding the acceptance or denial of those teams very much had to do with budgets!  As I said, unless you or the AD were in those discussion meetings you can not prove or disprove what I said.  Believe; don't believe, it doesn't much matter to me.  I was just trying to have an informative discussion about the league based on my knowledge, beliefs and thoughts which is what I thought we did here.

The $4000 quote came from InTheMix.  I agree that students can get a lot of financial aide if they qualify.  What the private schools can do is offer extra incentives in the form of grants.  In some schools coaches have a say who and how much a perspective player might get.  For the most part, at least in the NEFC, State schools don't have that luxary.

Yes, all schools can get certain players in.  The Ivy's have there own academic index that players must fall with in for a player to be accepted.  They get a couple that is even lower every year but these are for the blue chippers with pretty high academic indexes to begin with.  The question is how many a coach is allowed by the institution.  The Mass State schools are supposed to have the same criteria. The privates make their own.  This puts the State schools at a disadvantage but it can also work against the private schools. 

Mt. Ida, for example, when they were starting a program, let everyone in.  The problem with that was a high turnover rate year to year.  New faces every year make it tough to put a competitive product on the field.  Mt. Ida is starting to have success because they've tightened up their admission policies (opinion) and are keeping kids in the program for 3 and 4 years.  Does that mean that the same student athlete at Mt. Ida or other privates will get into the State schools?  Some, yes, but most, I don't know.  I do know that in the past players who couldn't get into there first choice used a school like Mt. Ida as a stepping stone to get their grades up so that they could transfer out.


Im not saying your totally wrong.  But you wrote it like budgets were the main reason mt ida didnt get it.  (and then you threw USCGA and PSU in there) But I actually spoke to the Mt. Ida AD about it once and the budget wasnt really a reason at all.    She told me the NEFC didnt allow Mt. Ida to get into the NEFC because the NEFC didnt want Mt Ida in the NEFC.  Its really that simple.  Like any job interview, the final decision is going to come down to factors that can never be accounted for in a portfolio.  Formalities have to be gone through in any interview but in the end the employer gets what he wants.  Mt. Ida could have had the perfect budget for the NEFC and it still wouldnt have gotten in.  Maybe you know someone on the NEFC committee that told you otherwise.  I can only base what I know on what the Mt. Ida AD told me in an informal conversation.

You cant really account for budgets anyway.  Coast Guard basically has the US Treasury as a budget, and Plymouth St has basically whatever it can get that it asks for.  A college budget is whatever the trustees want to give out.  So Framingham State can literally get money from Romney or the Legislature.  MIT can get money from its billions in endowment.  New fields and lockerooms are usually not included in budgets either.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on August 22, 2006, 03:05:31 PM
yes, the $4000 came from me because that is the max amount of money that Endicott can give for any academic scholarship.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on August 22, 2006, 07:05:01 PM
The $4000 scholarships at EC are the presidential scholarships given to students maintaining a 3.0 GPA or better.  There are other scholarships offered for specific purposes such as nursing or teaching students that are for larger amounts.  I agree with Johnny Utah, that schools can have various budgets but rarely sink the money into the football program.  Aside from having a fulltime coaching staff at EC I don't see them spending a great deal on the program.  Obviuosly they spent a lot of money to start with since they had to build a new field and get equipment, but any new program would do that.  In regards to the full time coaches they also have other jobs at the school and don't just sit around thnking about football.   As to how a team gets into the NEFC, I would assume that Johnny Utah's analogy to a job interview is probably close.  I also agree with D3Fan  that this is a good forum for discussion and at the end of the day, does it really matter who said what and where they got that information.  It is great to have this forum for this type of discussion.  Keep it going
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on August 22, 2006, 07:21:03 PM
Heres my two cents about Endicott and why I think they are going to be the best team in the NEFC in the near future.

1) The coaching staff.  Not only is this coaching staff full time, but they work their asses off and know what theyre doing.  Theyre all expereinced, professional and bottomline good coaches.  They also recruit better and more kids than any other NEFC school.  They know the game.

2) The school itself is a pretty good school.  Academically it doesnt compare to Ithaca, Union or Hobart, but its almost up there with some of the NE-10 schools (Assumption, St. Anslems).  And Its a few big steps over Curry and all the state schools.  Its getting better too.

3) Good Location.  Not in Boston but close enough and far enough to get a good college experience.  Nice campus and good facilities (from what I hear).  Also a great recruiting area (Eastern Mass/NH)

Negatives:

-Not cheap
-Newer School (no tradition)

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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on August 22, 2006, 07:33:33 PM
Johnny Utah, I agree with everything you stated about Endicott.  In addition they have an administration that wants football and understands the importance of it to the school.  They started the program to attract more male students since only about 20 years ago it was an all -girl school and so that the Athletic Training prgram could gain expereince with the type of injuries you see in football. 

JB Wells the head coach is an excellent coach and has a lot of experience for a young coach and is very selective regarding the players he wants.  Since the prgram is new, he realizes that he has to have players that are willing to work hard and to represnet the school well.  He has passed over kids that were good players but had some discipline problems and poor work ethics.  Yes, that is an advantage to a private school.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on August 22, 2006, 11:06:50 PM
In the mix I wasn't talking about scholarships but grant money.  D3 Fan 06, yes it is illegal but tell me it doesn't happen!!!

QuoteIn addition they have an administration that wants football and understands the importance of it to the school.

63 center that's my point.  That makes all the difference.

In regards to the full time coach issue, who has the advantage?  The guy who coaches and works in athletics all day or the guy who has to teach all day or do another job?  On Monday afternoon during the season I'll bet you that the full time staff has already broken down and is into big time game plan discussions.  The part time staff is just getting to the office and is in the process of breaking the film down.  10pm; Full time staff has game plan complete, leaving office to go home.  Part time staff has somewhat of a working game plan in place but it still needs a great deal of refinement, going home for the night.

Tuesday 8am---full time staff have a staff meeting (go over any business, plan practice)
      ---part time staff teaching first class of the day
9am---full time break off into offensive and defensive meetings, review film, revise game plan.
      ---part time teaching 2nd class of the day

12:00pm, full time staff have lunch and begin to meet with players who have time to stop into the offices to review game plan.  Also, they get a chance to get a quick workout in.
---part time staff is still teaching and have yet to converse with other coaches about game plan.

3pm---full time staff getting ready for practice, part time just arriving to the campus.  Part time staff has a few minutes to talk while getting dressed for practice.

This schedule continues for the week, every week during the season.  Who do you think has the advantage?  Never mind the advantage of having 1 full time guy who is dedicated to recruiting during the off season.  I think you know my opinion...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on August 23, 2006, 07:40:54 PM
I looked back over the last 6 years at the NEFC champs.  Three were state Schools (UMD, Bridgewater St. and Westfield St.) and three were Private (Curry).  Prior to that there were co-champs from each division.  I know that Curry had a fulltime coach during those years (Nelson) and as I understand it UMD has a part-time coach.  I am not sure about the others, but based on the last 6 years it appears to be pretty even regarding State vs. Private schools.   Fitchburg State appears to have a pretty good program going.  I'm not sure about the coach's status (FT or PT). I believe that football success has more to do with the administration's interest in football than whether it is a state or private school.  Look at Framingham, according to a number  of messages here last year, the administration does not  care about football and it shows in the records over the last few years. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AptosDad on August 23, 2006, 08:28:48 PM
D3fan wrote: EVERY SCHOOL in the NEFC (and beyand, NESCACs etc) have players that might not meet the highest academic standards of their respective schools.

This suggests that a high school or JC player with exceptional football skills will get a NEFC school administrator to overlook a questionable academic record. The table just isn't that evenly.  You either have an excellent academic record, or you go somewhere other than MIT. My son's at MIT and I did everything (all legitimate) I thought I should that would help to get him in, but in the end, his football skills had nothing to do with his admittance.  He was a high school team captain and all-league honoree, but all football did was add another item to his list of diverse interests, which is what most academic schools are looking for.  I don't know where you pulled your claim about EVERY SCHOOL from, but I think you're wrong.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan06 on August 23, 2006, 09:17:16 PM
Perhaps my comment that ALL NEFC schools have exceptions was a "blanket statement".

I will agree whole-heartedly that MIT does not have the "tips" that the other NEFC schools do and that those student-athletes meet the standards of the rest of the insititution.

However, I will stick to my guns that most all the other schools have their exceptions.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on August 23, 2006, 09:35:59 PM
Quote from: AptosDad on August 23, 2006, 08:28:48 PM
D3fan wrote: EVERY SCHOOL in the NEFC (and beyand, NESCACs etc) have players that might not meet the highest academic standards of their respective schools.

This suggests that a high school or JC player with exceptional football skills will get a NEFC school administrator to overlook a questionable academic record. The table just isn't that evenly.  You either have an excellent academic record, or you go somewhere other than MIT. My son's at MIT and I did everything (all legitimate) I thought I should that would help to get him in, but in the end, his football skills had nothing to do with his admittance.  He was a high school team captain and all-league honoree, but all football did was add another item to his list of diverse interests, which is what most academic schools are looking for.  I don't know where you pulled your claim about EVERY SCHOOL from, but I think you're wrong.

Apatos dad, your 90% right.

Being a football captain and great football player at a great highschool or great high school football program will get you points at any school, including MIT. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AptosDad on August 26, 2006, 03:08:50 PM
Jonny,
I received strong enough indication from the head coach prior to my son's acceptance at the school that his football talent was a good thing, but that the coach did not have the ability or power to gain my son acceptance.  My son probably went on a 'wish list' the coach may have submitted to the administration, but even after being accepted, the coach wrote his congratulations with a reminder that MIT was an academic institution first, and that there were certain rules prohibiting players from allowing their football to interfere in any way with their academics.  At this point I'm not sure if we're in agreement or not, but I'll stand by my original reply, that not EVERY SCHOOL plays the same game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan06 on August 26, 2006, 04:54:41 PM
Aptosdad,

You are correct that not every school plays the same game in admission of student-athletes. There are varying levels of what each school is willing to accept as part of the larger class of students in general.

However, I WOULD hope that ALL the coaches took the same approach that football players in their program are attending their insititution for an EDUCATION first and to play football second.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AptosDad on August 27, 2006, 03:31:47 AM
D3fan06,
I share the same hope with you, but football coaches are human and don't all or always display like behavior.  When we were invited to observe an Ivy league school's spring practice game in his junior year of high school, part of the experience was a tour of facilities by various members of the coaching staff.  I believe it was the DL coach, in front of 30 or so parents and their boys, who said something to the effect that; "when they're here in the weightroom or in pads they're mine, and I don't care what happens over there (referring to the academic side of the campus) as long as it doesn't interrupt what I'm trying to achieve here". It wasn't anything too far from what I believed was reality, but still a bit of a surprise to hear a coach admit it, and I think his head coach would have considered his statement a gaff. For that to be admitted at an Ivy, we have to believe it's the standard for most schools.  I only contributed to this post because of your earlier claim that it's the case at EVERY SCHOOL.  There's at least one school that I'm aware of that doesn't play the game that way.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on August 29, 2006, 08:29:36 PM
Well let's forget the negativity about admissions. It's time to play ball. A couple good openers coming up this weekend with Curry at worcester state and i believe endicott at hartwick. It should be 2 well contested games. Perhaps 3 of the top teams in the conferences opening up early. I think that this year more so than last year there will be what some think the bottom tear teams beating the BSC,Curry, Fitchburghs and Endicotts.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NCAAFootball67 on August 29, 2006, 09:21:26 PM
I couldnt agree more with waggle, it seems that the league is starting to middle out a bit, but we will see what teams set up, i could see endicott being very very good and that nichols team coming back strong, on the other side, westfields got some transfers and bsc looks to have a dominating D....should be interesting.......potential schools who could pull off the upsets are mit, wnec, both maritimes.....


just my opinion

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on August 29, 2006, 10:25:22 PM
I agree very much with the comments about the NEFC becoming more competitive. WNEC has a great team returning and with the way they played last year they could see 3 or 4 more wins. Also, with the new coaches coming into the league teams will either struggle or thrive with the new game plans. I still see Endicott, Curry, and Fitchburg as the dominant 3, but UMD, WNEC, Coast Guard, and even MIT could stir things up. Hopefully those front runners wont take any team too lightly.

any predictions for the NEFC teams playing this weekend?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on August 30, 2006, 08:51:28 AM
I think that Worcester state at home with their balanced running and throwing attack will present problems for Curry. I think that Curry of all teams in the NEFC lost a lot of very good players last season, although Nellie recruited very well and they still have a very good team. I see an early season upset.
Endicott is a very good team but the league plays in is very good and again I see Hartwick beating Endicott.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on August 30, 2006, 12:02:44 PM
OK, I will be the first to go out on a limb and make my pre-season predictions for teh NEFC.  I will state right up front that I have limited rationale for my picks and I agree that this year the NEFC is quite well balanced and one upet can throw the picks right out the window.

Boyd Division:
Curry
EC
UMD
MIT
Nichols
WNEC
PSU
Salve

I think that MIT, Nichols and WNEC will all be tied at 4th place.

Bogan:
Fitchburgh
Westfield
Bridgewater
Worcester
Coast Guard
Maine Maritime
Mass Maritime
Framingham

Ok. let's see some more predictions.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: K-Mack on September 01, 2006, 11:27:13 AM
Well,
I'm jumping in at the end of the discussion, but isn't it logical to assume that no matter the academic standard at a school, there are going to be some slightly above average and some who are below? In many cases, the students admitted with below are the ones who are assets to the campus community in other ways, like having a strong record of activities and academics.

I don't know if that was the original poster's intent since I didn't go back to rehash posts not on this page, but he/she may well be right, generally speaking.

There are some schools whose admissions office (not the same as "administration" in my view) is in close cooperation with the coaching staff(s) ... that doesn't mean they violate academic standards set by the admissions office, but they know how to quote-unquote get a player in. There are financial packages and programs and exceptions to the rules, perhaps even loopholes, that admissions offices can and do exploit to get players in, at least if opposing schools' coaches are to be believed. In fact, sometimes coaches at the places where admissions judges athletes on their academic record first and foremost begrudge the practice and consider themselves at a disadvantage.

Plays to the point that all D3s are not created equal. And why would they be?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: K-Mack on September 01, 2006, 11:28:01 AM
Oh,
and my picks, roughly similar to Kickoff '06, with one major difference (that no one seems to have mentioned_)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 01, 2006, 01:47:12 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on September 01, 2006, 11:28:01 AM
Oh,
and my picks, roughly similar to Kickoff '06, with one major difference (that no one seems to have mentioned_)

K-Mack,  are we missing something here?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 01, 2006, 01:54:15 PM
Picks for NEFC this weekend:

WSC  20 Curry 18
I pick WSC for two reasons: (1) They are at home and (2) Curry is under a new coach and it may take a game or two for the players to gel under a new coach.

Hartwick 28  EC 14 
Based on past history it takes EC a few games to get going and I don't think they will be up to the task of beating Hartwick that plays a much tougher schedule.


Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 04, 2006, 05:09:13 PM
Looks like EC better tighten up their run defense.  The Jr. RB Crea ran the fisrt play from scrimmage 80 yds for a TD and racked up a total of 220 yards on the ground for the game.  At least the kick-off was not run back which has happened the last years for Endicott.  That does not look good for the Gulls who have most their Defense back from last year.  Also wonder what was going on with the offense that their leading rusher from last season only ran one play for -1 yards.  Does anyone know if Festa was hurt.  Gulls better shape up quick with RPI coming in next Sat.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on September 05, 2006, 11:20:46 AM
anyone have a recipie for seagull stew?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Moose50 on September 05, 2006, 01:35:55 PM
Just as a side note re:the Endicott/Hardwick game.  Three of Endicott's best backs were out for unspecified reasons but all were "healthy".  I think we give the Smith kid a chance with his full cadre of players and see what he/they can do then.  One of his interceptions was a catch that should have been made and the other a tipped ball.  How about Curry/FSC this weekend?   Which Curry will show up/  My sources say that FSC has just re-loaded and is ready to tak ethe Bogan and move on from there.  I still don't like CGA & the Maine Maritime game in November in Castine, it's going to very cold up there.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 05, 2006, 05:54:13 PM
Quote from: Moose50 on September 05, 2006, 01:35:55 PM
Just as a side note re:the Endicott/Hardwick game.  Three of Endicott's best backs were out for unspecified reasons but all were "healthy". 

Thanks for that information Moose50.  I couldn't believe that EC wouldn't play Festa, Boyd, and Thompson in more plays than they did if they were healthy.  Must be a discipling issue.  Alex Smith is a good QB given time to set up and throw.

I think FSC will beat Curry, especially if Curry plays like they played against WSC last weekend.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NCAAFootball67 on September 05, 2006, 10:13:21 PM
Worcester/Curry was an aweful game to watch, both teams looked very vunerable, just proof that the league could take advantage.  They are both two very good football teams, but they were undiscipline and at sometimes lazy.  I guess that could happen in the teams first games, but if thats what to come, both of those teams will not be competing for division titles as teams like fsc, bridgewater, and endicott would roll over them.....


Predicition of the year......NICHOLS BISON, dont sleep on em.....just watch
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: sickofBS on September 06, 2006, 11:23:41 AM
Quote from: NCAAFootball67 on September 05, 2006, 10:13:21 PM
but if thats what to come, both of those teams will not be competing for division titles as teams like fsc, bridgewater, and endicott would roll over them.....

since curry and WSC are the only teams that have played (sans EC),
id like to know how u would compare them to fsc ,bridgewater...  we'll see how the rest of the confrence's first games go, then we'll know who will roll over who.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fanoffootball on September 06, 2006, 02:34:43 PM
I don't no why everyone thinks Fitchburg is still on top.I went to the scrimmage they had the other day, they have lost to much including some great coaching. This is a team that has to be carried by the coaches they don't have the great players like the past that don't need coaching to win (or almost win). FSC looses to CURRY 21-7....that is 7 if william early gets in the end zone
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bomberbacker on September 07, 2006, 08:28:04 AM
Look for Coast Guard to make a run at getting the playoff spot. They have great coaches and have played much better compitition in the last few years....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: seahawkpride on September 07, 2006, 06:22:30 PM
Hey everyone first ever post. I have just started to become interested in d3 football because I have 2 sons who have started college and are playing .One goes to Springfield and the other plays for Salve Regina. This post centers on Salve. I am really impressed with the new head coach Chris Robertson. He has brought enthusiasm and passion. He has scrapped the old offense which I believe was the wing-t and replaced it with a spread offense. At the recent scrimmage against Framingham State the offense had some good moments although running out of this formation left e little to be desired. Defense looked good with some notable nose tackle play. I believe we will be competitive this year although our win total may not reflect it.     
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 07, 2006, 06:44:37 PM
Here are picks for Week 2 in the NEFC:

BSC over UMD
RPI over EC
WPI over WSC
MIT over MAM
PSU over Mt. Ida
Westfield St. over WNEC
MEM over Becker
Salve over SUNY Maritime
Merchant Marine over USCGA
Curry over FSC
Nichols over Framingham

I just pick em, I don't explain em.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on September 07, 2006, 06:46:04 PM
Well, time for some week 2 picks:

Nichols snaps their losing streak against framingham state 28-13
Bridgewater ST over UMD 35-20
Worcester State over WPI 17-0
EC wont get the W this week 34-17
MIT downs MA Maritime 26-7
Mount Ida crushes Plymouth State 56-7
SUNY Maritime over Salve 42-13
Coast Guard loses to Kings Point 59-14
Curry over Fitchburg 41-20
ME Maritime over Becker 21-7

hopefully I'll get one or two right
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on September 07, 2006, 11:15:03 PM
Seahawk pride, welcome to the board.  I'm sure the new coach has brought some  changes to Salve but be very apprehensive about any performance vs. Framingham.  Any fan of the NEFC hopes Framingham improves but they haven't been close to being competitive for a while.  That's not to say there aren't any talented players over there but Framingham as a team (performance wise) has been poor at best.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: seahawkpride on September 08, 2006, 04:52:41 AM
Thank you D3 fan. I did see where Framingham State finished either near or at the bottom of the league last year so I am tempering my expectations because of that. But from what I have seen about the coach,I have met him a few times, and what I heard in the stands at the scrimmage about how he seems to be more involved than previous years gives me cause for optimism. This is not a slight toward previous coaching because this is the first full time head coach at Salve which means he has more time to devote to the program. I do believe there will be growing pains with this new offense especially if the running game does not improve but defensively I think we will be ok. I just think that the attitude seems upbeat despite the recent lean years . Of course the games have not started so it will be interesting to see how we respond to adversity which I am sure will come early. I understand our 1st. game is against a team, Suny Maritime, whose program is still in its infancy so we should have some success. I  can't wait for the game with the forecast being for nice weather and the chance to see my son play. I have to start cutting down the size of my posts or get more free time. lol   
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on September 08, 2006, 10:44:49 AM
RPI - 52
EC - 7
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on September 08, 2006, 08:55:06 PM
Seahawk Pride.  Good luck to you and your and your son's.  Get ready to see some fun games.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Old NEFC fan on September 09, 2006, 05:37:36 AM
I saw the WSC/Curry game and I guess NCAAfootball67 and I saw different things. I didn't see vulnerable, undisciplined or lazy. I did see two teams that had some execution issues which is not surprising at this point in the season. I also thought that Curry won the game on conditioning as they seemed more determined and focused in the 4th quarter. I also thought Curry's defense looked very good.

The league will have it's usual strong teams. Bridgewater, Fitchburg and Coast Guard will be strong. Endicott is well coached and will be a contender. Curry will be in the hunt with UMD always strong. It will be interesting to see who else steps up. Nichols is well coached and has their QB back. WNEC will be better. MIT is always under talented but well coached and very disciplined. The Maritimes should be better and Plymouth will be the unknown.

At this level whoever remains the healthiest should come out on top. Not many teams in this league can go very deep on the depth chart without a considerable drop off in talent.

All in all it's great to be back watching NEFC games on weekends. Good Luck to everyone this year.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: seahawkpride on September 09, 2006, 07:48:11 AM
Thanks D3
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bignefcfan15 on September 09, 2006, 11:22:17 AM
Nichols over framingham
Bridgewater over UMD
WPI over Worcester
RPI over endicott
MIT over MA Maritime
Mount Ida over Plymouth
Mass Maritime over Salve
Kings Point over Coast Guard
ME Maritime over Becker

Game of the week:
   Curry defeats FSC easily by 20 at home where FSC can't win.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on September 09, 2006, 08:36:52 PM
The day is finsihed and the scores are in....
Nichols 31 over Framingham 12
WPI 40 over WSC 20
RPI 27 over EC 7
Mt. Ida 19 over PSC 14
WNEC 31 over WSC 3  wow......
UMD 15 over BSC 7.......

Anyone have anything on the Curry vs FSC, Salve vs. NY, MIT vs Ma M?

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: sickofBS on September 10, 2006, 01:57:41 AM
Curry 21- Fitchburg 0
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bignefcfan15 on September 10, 2006, 02:48:51 AM
My bad, my perdiction was off by one point on the curry vs. fsc game. FSC, no offense at all, close game till 10 or so left in the forth.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on September 10, 2006, 01:19:47 PM
does anyone have any idea why Endicott hasn't been playing their 3 best running backs?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fanoffootball on September 10, 2006, 01:57:42 PM
Someone must wake up the FSC coaching. Those boys could be in for a long season.  Close game, till the Deffense died.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AptosDad on September 13, 2006, 02:16:12 AM
Quote from: d3fanoffootball on September 10, 2006, 01:57:42 PM
Someone must wake up the FSC coaching. Those boys could be in for a long season.  Close game, till the Deffense died.

Someone must wake up the (insert the name of your losing school here: "___'') coaching. Those boys could be in for a long season. 

I'll take a crack at it........WAKE UP!!!
I know nothing about FSC, but I know that in order to not embarrass my family name, I should just lower my expectations.  It's only D3, right? True, I'm just a fan, and I hate to complain, but I wish things like scoring points in a 0-0 game, play selection (maybe kick a field goal from the 8 instead of going for it on 4th and 7), and clock management (3:40 left in the half too much time to think about it, and then run out of time?) looked more important.  Is there a "D3football Coaching for Dummies" book? Such game mistakes/(different perspective?) are one thing, but to hear team morale was low the night before their opening game, and then learn the same guy has been there 28 years, I just couldn't help but get the feeling the guy doesn't know what else to do with his time. "For the love of the game" is being severely tested by a small group of young men who deserve better. 
OK, that's enough ranting.....good luck to all.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on September 13, 2006, 02:52:16 PM
Aptos dad,
There are a lot of very good athletes and football players in the NEFC. But get ready you will be  dumbfounded at some of the things you will witness over the next 8 weeks. There are some very good programs and some very bad programs.
Good luck and have fun.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AptosDad on September 14, 2006, 01:13:27 AM
Waggs,
Thanks for the reassuring words.......except you should have added 'don't forget to take your Prozac'.  I know it's best to accept things as they are, hope for good luck and try to have fun.  Luckily enough I won't be witness to any more games, with the possible exception of the season finale, but since 'Sullymustgo' seems content to have gotten his message across, I don't hear anything along the lines of typical booster club complaining.  With a conference ranked last in all of D3, and a few programs that include some good players but can't compete against the lowest rung of college football, shouldn't there be an occasional stirring of the pot?  What else is there for a disappointed dad to do?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NCAAFootball67 on September 14, 2006, 09:23:02 AM
Just a thought, whats the word on mass maritime in the league, I mean they were in page 2 espn (article strictly making fun of MIT) and on sundays d3football.com poll on the what the readers thought the biggest surprise of the week are.  We all talked, myself including about mit turning it around this year, and they have 9 starters back on an offense that got shut out, any thoughts????
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on September 14, 2006, 09:29:19 AM
AptosDad,

What your starting to see in the NEFC are the private schools with the fulltime coaching staff  that are becoming the better and more competetive teams to play out of conference..It drives me crazy but only a couple of teams play teams outside of conference. For instance many look at endicott at 0-2 and think their not good but they played 2 New York teams that are far much better than any team in the NEFC .
Endicott may run the table from here on out.
.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 14, 2006, 10:18:27 AM
What you need in the NEFC mass state schools  are coaches that have masters degrees in PHys ed. and teach at the schools.  That way you can be full time and part time at the same time.  All those schools have education departments and I would say are great early opportunities to start someones coaching career.  I think the main problem is that those schools dont fire coaches that dont produce which probably should change. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on September 14, 2006, 11:22:05 AM
Johnny Utah, Your right on..That's what Bridgewater State did in hiring their head coach who is also the full time strength and conditioning  coach at the school.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 14, 2006, 07:16:38 PM
I agree with Johhny Utah.  At EC, all the Full Time head Coaches also work at  FT jobs at the school.  The Head FB Coach is also works FT in Admissions.  Of course positions like Admissions and Strength and Conditioning like at BSC are great for coaches because they have an opportunity to interact with the players more.  If it wasn't for the automatic NCAA bid, I am sure that the private schools would be running from the NEFC as fast as they could.  They have nothing to gain by playing the weaker teams.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 14, 2006, 07:33:00 PM
Ok, last week I was 7-4 in my NEFC picks.  Let's see if I can do a little better this week as inter-league play picks up.

WSC over Nichols
BSC over Salve
Curry over Westfield
UMD over Fitchburg
EC over MAM
WNEC over MEM
USCGA over PSC
MIT over Framingham

Let's see some picks from all the rest of you NEFC fans
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NCAAFootball67 on September 14, 2006, 07:43:12 PM
Nichols over WSC (always play each other tough)
BSC over Salve (not buying into the early season loss for bridgewater)
Curry over Westfield (Curry already proved its still on top)
UMD over Fitchburg (How real is UMD)
MAM over EC (Don't call it an upset, hahaha, whats up with endicotts RB's)
WNEC over MEM (WNEC looks legit)
USCGA over PSC (Coast Guard are BIG)
MIT over Framingham (MIT is better than they looked)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on September 15, 2006, 08:30:47 AM
Okay, let me try here:

WSC over Nichols, Close for a while, but then WSC is stronger.
BSC over Salve, BSC is pretty mad from last week.
Curry over Westfield, I heard Curry looked strong last week.
UMD over Fitchburg, I heard FSC looked not strong last week.
EC over MAM, The Gulls (Cheer) are ready for some NEFC comp.
WNEC over MEM, This is a home team win, if it was at Maine then the story would be reversed.
USCGA over PSC, Coast Guard wins the Bogan
Framingham over MIT, MIT 0-2, its nothing new.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bignefcfan15 on September 15, 2006, 03:56:09 PM
Nichols over WSC
BSC over Salve
Curry over Westfield
UMD over Fitchburg
EC over MAM
WNEC over MEM
USCGA over PSC
Framingham over MIT
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on September 15, 2006, 05:09:18 PM
EC over MAM
WNEC over MEM
Coast Guard over PSU
MIT over Framingham
Fitchburg over UMD
Curry over Westfield
BCS over Salve
Nichols over WSC
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: sickofBS on September 16, 2006, 05:08:07 PM
Curry 27 Westfield St. 0
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on September 18, 2006, 08:17:19 PM

What's going on in the NEFC this year.? Any suprises? I've seen 4 games and was not to impressed by any of them. How are the new adds, Coast guard and Plymouth?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jeff on September 19, 2006, 05:06:41 PM
why do folks continue to pick framingham to beat anyone?  ???

and herein lies the problem with NEFC that a school like Framingham, with easily the WORST head coach I have ever played for or have seen in action, is allowed to remain at the school and go 3-35 over 4+ years!  In today's day in age, how can ANY division head coach of ANY sport teams win 8% of their games and keep their job!  and to boot we got folks in here that pick this team to win!!!!!  WOW...

the good stuff is that Plymouth and Coast Guard, two teams that will bring up the conference, have been added, now the conference needs to get all members to 10-games with at minimum 1 out of conference game and drop the garbage like framingham

and how that coach has taken a brand new field and brand new athletic complex and make an already bad program WORSE is beyond me...

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on September 19, 2006, 08:20:38 PM
Jeff, Your right on. The nefc needs to play a 10 game schedule and you see that the better teams in the Nefc already do that. I do not know the scituation at framingham state but you should know best where you were part of the program. I can't believe the BS I've seen the last several years in this conference. I can understand why the NEFC has not won a playoff game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NCAAFootball67 on September 19, 2006, 10:43:06 PM
Framingham st. has limitations on coaches, i mean there head coach is a fulltime teacher, u tellin me hes puttin in the hours of filming and recruiting, its real tough.  They need to committ to it and they could be alright.  If they allowed that program to have a couple of full time coaches maybe in the system workin for admissions or soething and a GA or 2, they could compete.  They have great location and girls which are two highlighted points anywhere.  The problem lies not on the head coach as much as it does the AD and the president, i dont understand why they put the money into the program and half ass it, either drop it or committ fully to it.   

There are some fun games this weekend, and i might be the only one but i stand by carvens call at nichols going for 2.......we do play to win the game, open for thoughts


Good day to all
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on September 20, 2006, 08:35:12 AM
NCAA FOOTBALL 67, Your right on . You will notice that all the teams in the NEFC that are rising to the top are the programs that  have Full time coaching.  Plus the coaches have to get out to the high schools and recruit the bubble kids that are thinking of   playing  1AA and D2, because many of them come to a d3 program a year later.. This weekend the Curry vs. WNEC game should be interesting , I'm not sure if WNEC is there yet. It will be interesting to see how the new 2 adds do in CG and PState.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jeff on September 20, 2006, 02:19:39 PM
football67, we respectfully disagree...he  flat-out isn't a good coach...he teaches nothing and is dry as the mojave desert...he couldn't motivate you to jump out of the way of a tank...

Lets face it, the football at this school hasn't been the best, but there were a handful of guys I played with that could have played at a much higher level...however...

From 1998-2001, 4 years where players changed in the parking lot for practice and played on easily the worst football field in the region and had ZERO workout plan, the team remained competitve with these schools and had players of note to watch...During those years, the team went 10-29, which is bad enough...

Now from 2002-2006 with a brand new athletic complex, great locker rooms, brand new weight room and brand new field turf, this awful coach [no disrespect to awful coaches by the way] has gone 3-35...

So the question is...how can you add things to the football experience and get worse? 

The direction of this school and this coach should not be allowed in this conference...Period...he is an awful motivator, mismanges personnel and I could continue but wont...The AD and school wasn't on the side of the previous coach either, but that guy managed to at least knock off some better teams and for the most part remained competitive until the end...

You want to know why the NEFC is a bottom basement conference look no further than FSC...

On that note
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on September 20, 2006, 11:45:28 PM
Jeff,

You are definately correct with your judgement of the coaching staff at fram. st, however, framingham isn't the only school in the division facing these same problems.  As a former college D3 player it obvious how BAD the coaching is.  Another great example would be Nichols,MIT, Worcester State..etc!  I don't know why Coach Cullen still has a job... the program has been sliding for the past 3 years... he goes from a modern spread offense to a 1950s I-Formation smash mouth football... the problem is he doesn't have the size to do so!!!

WSC first game against Curry was terrible... and it got worse w/WPI

Until this conference establishes full-time coaches they might as well call it an intramural league!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NCAAFootball67 on September 21, 2006, 10:42:30 AM
Youve got to be kidding me with all do respect that he doesnt have the size to do that, his smallest lineman is 6-4 255.  Hes got some hogs look at that roster man.  Plus both of his quaterbacks are miserable.  I think I would make that change also.  Opinions
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: tecmobowler on September 21, 2006, 12:55:06 PM
My opinion is that I hope my alma mater draws the NEFC team in the first round of the playoffs.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 21, 2006, 07:00:50 PM
I have been on this site for the last 4 years and over the last 4 years, there have always been several posting criticizing the Framingham coach.  Usually they also criticize the President and the AD for keeping him.  So we are on par for this year and we are only into week 4.

I stated a couple of years ago that the NEFC needs to force schools to play 10 games including at least 1 non-conference game.  I am not sure that they have that power, but until they do the NEFC will be a bottom dweller.  The good programs have fulltime coaches, play 10 games, including non-conference games.

There are some great match-ups this weekend.  I think the Nichols-MIT game should be interesting.  Both teams should be playing better than they have shown so far.  I think the CGA-Westfield game will tell us how well CGA will do in the NEFC this year.  Of course the laugher of the weekend will be FSC at FSC.   I'll have my picks later.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on September 22, 2006, 07:12:18 AM
My picks:

UMass Dartmouth over Plymouth, UMD is for real as long as Fitchburg is decent.
Coast Guard over Westfield, CG laughs at their new league
Bridgewater over Maine Maritime, MMA is not the team they were last year.
Endicott over Salve Regina I know, its a shocker that I took my alma, but move along.
Worcester over Mass Maritime, I think a closer game than in the past.
Fitchubrg over Framingham, I don't care if Fitchburg seems down, its Framingham
Nichols over MIT, the Bison are ready for MIT, they have to be.
Curry over WNEC, if this was at WNEC, I think it might be closer, but not at Curry.

Other NE Picks.
Ida over Becker
Husson over Hartwick
and Colby over Trinity.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 22, 2006, 07:22:24 AM
Here are my picks for the week:

EC over Salve - EC is starting their roll through the  Boyd at least until Curry
UMD over PSC - I think PSC still has some work to do and UMD is coming into their own
CGA over Westfield - I think CGA will give folks a run for their money in the Bogan
BSC over MME - BSC still has it.
Worcester St over MMA - I think WSC is better than they have shown so far
Fitchburg over Framingham - no brainer
Nichols over MIT - This could be the best game of the weekend in the NEFC. Win goes to home team
Curry over WNEC - WNEC is still trying to get it together and Curry is already there
Title: Re: NCAAFootball67
Post by: footballfan2005 on September 22, 2006, 01:55:56 PM
Do you look at the stats before you comment... I don't care if their 6-4 255... they are a bunch of fat boys... no muscle... no strength...  Either the players suck or the Offensive Cord. is an idiot... b/c last year S. Kasprzak was very good.

Week 1 vs Curry

                                                   CUR         WSC
RUSHES-YARDS (NET)............   50-163    28--6
Worcester State-Steve Kasprzak 14-13; Brian Doherty 1-4; J. Godfroy 4-2

Week 2 vs WPI
                                                    WSC      WPI
RUSHES-YARDS (NET)............    24-52   42-172
Worcester State-Steve Kasprzak 10-29; J. Godfroy 10-18

Week 3 vs Nichols
                                                    NIC        WSC
RUSHES-YARDS (NET)............   38-123   42-129
State-Steve Kasprzak 33-117; J. Godfroy 1-13

Bottom line... the coaching staff is terrible!!!

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on September 22, 2006, 02:56:47 PM
time for my weekend picks:

Endicott over Salve
Curry over WNEC, but this will help us see if WNEC has improved
MIT over Nichols
Fitchburg easily over Framingham
Bridgewater over MEM
Coast Guard over Westfield
UMD over Plymouth
Worcester over MMA
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bignefcfan15 on September 22, 2006, 10:16:16 PM
Endicott over Salve
WNEC over Curry
Nichols over MIT
Fitchburg over Framingham
Bridgewater over MEM
Coast Guard over Westfield
UMD over Plymouth
MMA over Worcester
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NCAAFootball67 on September 23, 2006, 01:00:01 AM
footballfan2005 who are you lee corso, of course I look at the stats genius, all I was saying is that they have the line to run the ball.  Never said they do it correctly, everyone knows when they are in pro they are running it, the only time they do move the ball is when they run outside zone out of trips, they dont not have various running sets.  Before you go and try to be some big shot, i was not shooting ur comment down I was just saying they have the size to do it......Wow
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on September 23, 2006, 12:24:47 PM
NCAAFootball67

Actually if you actually watch this team play you would have a clue...  "all I was saying is that they have the line to run the ball"... did you look at the Curry stats?  If you call that a running game I don't know what planet your on! Last week they had terrible success running the ball in the first half... and the only time they had success was running right up the gut... which you said the only time they run is when they spread out and run trips... are you talking about last years offense... they aren't running spread anymore! although if the game went into overtime, like it should have I don't think WSC would have won the game...

Goes back to the discussion on coaching in this LEAGUE... Nichols scored a late touchdown w/3min remaining and went for 2 points instead of kicking the extra point... what type of coaching is that?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NCAAFootball67 on September 23, 2006, 07:26:44 PM
#1 mr footballfan, is mma vs. wsc they were in spread all game if u saw that, and #2 if u saw that nichols game it was the right call to go for it, just not to run the ****in polecat........the wsc kicker had hit from like 44 and 42 in that game and the nichols kicker sucks, I guess everyones opinions would differ, but i say not a bad call play for the win on the road, exp. with their kicker sucking and wsc's kicker doing well...


how about those maritime boys?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on September 25, 2006, 02:20:41 AM
NCAAFootball67

You just confirmed my opinion on you... You don't know what your talking about!  I did see the game and WSC ran the their shotgun formation b/c they were down 21-7 @ the half and then they fell behind even further 26-7 w/5min left in the 3rd.

Not to mention... what are they doing with the quaterback situation... the #4 was terrible... and the coaching... 2 bombs w/1min left when all they needed was 5-10 yards for another reasonable field goal for the win... the kid made a 47 yarder just minutes prior... but to ask a college kicker to hit a 52 yarder for the win... who does the coach think he has Adam Vinateri?

And Mass Maritime coaching staff almost blew a 26-7 lead... and an option w/1:30 left when WSC had no time outs left... all they had to do was run a dive... take another 30-40 sec off the clock and pin the WSC offense deep in their own end...

Where do they find the coaches in this league?  Mass Maritime def deserved to win... they dominated WSC the entire game... a few lucky broken plays led to big gains for WSC... should be fun watching WSC when they meet the strength of their schedule... I think i'll go watch 2 comp. teams next week... Fitchburg @ Bridgewater... until then
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on September 26, 2006, 07:31:53 PM
Was a little bit miffed by Mass maritime beating Worcester State. Good for MMA> It looks like something is going on at WSC with new QB. and defense.
I have seen Coast guard play twice  and may see game this weekend against MMA. Coast guard moves the ball well on offense but defense is not good. No pass rush and young secondary. But like any young squad they will only get better. My guess this year is either BSC or Fitchburgh again and Curry and Endicott.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Moose50 on September 26, 2006, 07:47:49 PM
Just a comment on the F'Burg - Framingham game.  Framingham played well and actually scored first on a fumble run back for a TD.  F'Burg is driving at the end of the first half.  They have a long pass and a nice reception to the 4 or 5 yd. line and the receiver wisely gets out of bounds.  The clock reads 00:01.  Coach Haverty sends out the FG team.  As the team is getting ready to attempt the field goal, the back ref comes running in and jestures that the half is over. Framingham, lead by Sully, races off the field leaving Coach Haverty to argue with the refs.  During the arguement, the clock still reads 00:01.  Needless to say, Haverty loses the arguement.  One may wonder about Sully being on the field consistantly, calling plays and screaming at the officials, but nothing was called.   The final was 30-6 but all the hard work the F'Burg players did at the end of the half all was for naught due to an offical error.  I don't know where a second is not a second. In football whether it's Pro, college, HS or Pop Warner when time is on the clock, you play the game.  Just an observation.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on September 26, 2006, 08:55:00 PM
honestly fitchburg has no clock complaints after the bsc game last year when their clock mysteriously shut off for 5 minutes in a game that actually meant something, this is framingham were talkin about, they weren't gonna win the game anyways.....also their starting running back wasn't there which might have been their only chance to be in the game

The game to watch this week is definitely bsc vs. fsc though not only because of league implications, but also the rivalry....if u got no where better to be at 12 on saturday i'd be there
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 26, 2006, 09:48:48 PM
Quote from: Moose50 on September 26, 2006, 07:47:49 PM
Just a comment on the F'Burg - Framingham game.  Framingham played well and actually scored first on a fumble run back for a TD.  F'Burg is driving at the end of the first half.  They have a long pass and a nice reception to the 4 or 5 yd. line and the receiver wisely gets out of bounds.  The clock reads 00:01.  Coach Haverty sends out the FG team.  As the team is getting ready to attempt the field goal, the back ref comes running in and jestures that the half is over. Framingham, lead by Sully, races off the field leaving Coach Haverty to argue with the refs.  During the arguement, the clock still reads 00:01.  Needless to say, Haverty loses the arguement.  One may wonder about Sully being on the field consistantly, calling plays and screaming at the officials, but nothing was called.   The final was 30-6 but all the hard work the F'Burg players did at the end of the half all was for naught due to an offical error.  I don't know where a second is not a second. In football whether it's Pro, college, HS or Pop Warner when time is on the clock, you play the game.  Just an observation.

Sometimes the clock operator messes up before that 1 second and the refs have to keep the time on the field for the last few plays because the clock operator is unable to reset a specific time like 1 sec or something.  Im not saying that is what happened but its very possible in an NEFC game
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bignefcfan15 on September 28, 2006, 12:47:51 PM
[Sometimes the clock operator messes up before that 1 second and the refs have to keep the time on the field for the last few plays because the clock operator is unable to reset a specific time like 1 sec or something.  Im not saying that is what happened but its very possible in an NEFC game
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Exactly, sounds similour to the the bridgewater/fsc game last year. Officials don't just guess and estimated time remaining in a game if an event like the main board goes off.  The time should still be kept on the field and if it isn't, shame on the NEFC, not the home team.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 28, 2006, 07:17:22 PM
Some interesting early season match-ups this week.  Here are my picks:

UMD over MIT - UMD is going to be looking the "W" after last week's loss and they're at home.

Worcester St. over Framingham - Need I say more

BSC over Fitchburg - I give the edge to the home team out for revenge after last year.  Probably the best game in the NEFC this weekend.

PSC over WNEC - I am still waiting to see the real WNEC, but give the edge to PSC at home.

Westfield over MEM - Looking for Westfield to wake up.

EC over Nichols - Although Nichols is back to playing some good football, I think EC is just starting to play some good football and it looks like some of their injured players may be starting to heel up.

CGA over MMA - Look for newcomer CGA to blow through the Bogan.

Curry over Salve - I think the early hype over the new coach and system at Salve was just hype and Curry will have no problems with continuing on their winning streak.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on September 29, 2006, 07:19:34 AM
Pick time

Worcester over Framingham, WSC steps it up
Bridgewater over Fitchburg, BSC is simply better
UMass Dartmouth over MIT, Bad MIT
Maine Maritime over Westfield, Maine hung with a good BSC team
Endicott over Nichols, EC wins the Boyd
WNEC over Plymouth, Why not
Coast Guard over Mass MA, CGA will run the table
Curry over Salve Regina, Curry is good, or at least compared to Salve.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bignefcfan15 on September 29, 2006, 09:37:38 AM
Worcester over Framingham
UMass Dartmouth over MIT
Maine Maritime over Westfield
Endicott over Nichols
Plymouth over WNEC
Coast Guard over Mass
Curry over Salve Regina

GOW: Bridgewater romps Fitchburg 35-7, FSC has no offense.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on September 29, 2006, 11:36:02 AM
EC over Nichols....looks like EC is starting to play opportunistic football and converting on turnovers

Worcester easily over Framingham

UMD over MIT....a close one possibly but give the edge to a home team

Westfield over Maine Martime..another possible close one, but hopefully westfield wakes up

WNEC over Plymouth.....this is where WNEC tends to shock some people

Coast Guard over Mass Maritime

Curry in a blowout over Salve

Lastly, Bridgewater shows how weak fitchburg is with a blowout
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Diablo981 on September 29, 2006, 12:24:11 PM
wow the talk aboout bsc vs. fsc is just too good on this page. I have to chime in. the bad blood between these two teams has gotten worse since the 2 games they played last year. the clock malfunction when bsc was on the verge of a game tying drive, the trash talk by both sides, the big win by bsc in the ecac game. my prediction: bsc over fsc 28-6. Bears defense is too nasty. they cover well, they hit hard, and their front line is big, strong and fast.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Teck on September 29, 2006, 01:58:20 PM
I've heard enough about Bridgewater, they lost to UMD, they're not this super-powerhouse of a team in the league. They are near the top of a poorly talented league. The NEFC has been so decimated from the loss of last years seniors that there's about 5 teams who could potentially win the bogan division. This is the year of the coach, and it is coaching that will ultimately win this year, regardless of talent on the field, because basically it's lacking. As far as Fitchburg goes, their offense is better this year than it was last year, and they still managed to pull out one victory against them last year. Let's face it, while Bridgewater's defense has improved, their offense is at a loss. This is a very evenly matched contest, and it's probably going to be one of the better games this season let alone this week. I give the edge to Fitchburg, expect big a big game from Bruce Rogers and Kelton Francis. This defensive back tandem is just ready to have a breakout game with their respective athletic abilities. Haverty did a great job managing the game against Bridgewater the first game last year and I expect the same tomorrow.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on September 30, 2006, 12:54:20 AM
so u'r point is that u have no clue, bridgewater's defense was nasty against umd considering they kicked 3 field goals and the offense is just now gelling together...the umd loss has no bearing on how good bsc is.....and after tomorrow u'll know
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 30, 2006, 10:43:54 AM
I realize that stats can be misleading, but so can selecting teams based on emotions. Looking at the NEFC stats for both FSC and BSC it should be a close game.  They are tied for 6th in scoring offense,  BSC is 6th and FSC is 7th in scoring defense.  However the big differences comes when you look at total offense,  BSC is 2nd while FSC is 6th.  If BSC's defense is nasty, I guess FSC defense must be nastier since the stats for total defense have FSC 4th and BSC 5th.   So based on stats,  give this one to BSC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Diablo981 on September 30, 2006, 03:02:30 PM
game over. bsc wins 15-7. tastes like chicken
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on September 30, 2006, 05:06:36 PM
hey teck, leave the good calls to miller light would ya
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bignefcfan15 on October 02, 2006, 09:56:22 PM
Anyone watch the ending of the BSC and FSC game? I can summarize for you quick; 15-8 BSC w/ 1 minute to go, FSC has ball on BSC 12ish (inside twenty), 3rd and 1, FSC gets the first down and goes into "clock it position," qb gets the ball and spikes it, refs call it a fumble, BSC jumps on it, game over.  I think the refs took the game from the players. Would have been an exciting ending. Well worth the price of the ticket and travel.
Side note: I'm a BSC fan but what the team did before the game was unsportsman like to say the least. The players were running over to, basically the FSC 40, taunting the falcon players during warmups. I hope the BSC coaching staff can get a better handle on their players. I know the emotions were high after last season's games and I expected both sides to be fired up but that was uncalled for. Still no flag though while the refs just watched. Guess it isn't no penality till you get a flag.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on October 03, 2006, 07:19:20 AM
wOW, I was not aware of the ending just from reading the news online, huh, seems as if that was left out of the write-ups.  Anyway, how about that gull defense, they are working their butts off right now.  I am very impressed.  But I will say that NC gave them more than they were ready for, that school is improving.  These next two weeks shoudl really tell us how powerful EC really is!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on October 03, 2006, 08:43:35 AM
actually bignefcfan15 bsc has been doin that for years, they actually use to go all the around the field which the new coaching staff does not allow anymore so get a clue....and i don't know where u were standin, but the quarterback dropped the snap and never had possession of the ball, it's kinda hard to spike something your not holding...bsc's d played amazing don't down play it

p.s. unsportsmanlike is ripping the quarterbacks helmet off in the pile on the third play of the game....but i guess u missed fitchburg doing that too
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Daddio on October 03, 2006, 10:39:39 AM
Was at the Bridgewater game--the QB definitely fumbled before he tried to spike the ball---
If the officals missed one, it was the first fumble by Fitchburg. I thought the runner was down by contact. However, Bridgewater ended up punting after that turnover.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fanoffootball on October 04, 2006, 11:49:59 AM
made the trip to the BSC FSC game ... probably won of the worst signs of sportsmanship by the BSC players in the pregame.... not a big fan of either team, but the boys of FSC where screwed by the refs in this one
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Diablo981 on October 04, 2006, 12:15:59 PM
I will admit that there was some bad sportsmanship by the bsc players in the pregame, but this goes back to before last weeks game. last year when bsc played fsc away the fitchburg players were just as bad and the officiating was horrible. bsc was screwed in that game by the refs, who allowed a 5 minute stoppage in time because the scoreboard shut off as bsc was making a potential game tying drive. the referees have the official time on thier watches, there was no need to stop the game and essentially take away bsc's momentum. and after the game it was got worse. the refs ran off the field while fsc fans lined the walkway where the bsc players had to walk through to the locker room and continued to taunt the players. then there were a select few who hoppen in a truck and circled the bsc bus in the parking lot chanting "overrated". so if the bsc players were a unsportsmanlike before the game started they got it out of their systems, because when the game started the only personal fouls were against fsc. karma is a beast.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 04, 2006, 01:25:30 PM
Quote from: Pimpingold on October 03, 2006, 08:43:35 AM
actually bignefcfan15 bsc has been doin that for years, they actually use to go all the around the field which the new coaching staff does not allow anymore so get a clue....and i don't know where u were standin, but the quarterback dropped the snap and never had possession of the ball, it's kinda hard to spike something your not holding...bsc's d played amazing don't down play it

p.s. unsportsmanlike is ripping the quarterbacks helmet off in the pile on the third play of the game....but i guess u missed fitchburg doing that too

Actually it is a penalty if you run up to the other team before the game and start yelling so yea, your wrong and it is a penalty.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on October 04, 2006, 02:26:05 PM
ok utah reread my post cause obviously u didn't the first time, i neva said it wasn't a penalty or that it shouldn't have been a penalty, so i'm wrong how???....all i said was that bsc has been doing it for years it's not like they just pulled it out for fitchburg, and also that the coaching staff doesn't allow the team to go all the around the field anymore, i guess they could always do a warm up lap in the parking lot....does anyone actually read what's written on here???
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 04, 2006, 02:56:50 PM
just reading through the lines where you say what unsportsmanlike penalty is, and not what it was not.  I apoligize if you thought that what they did was a penalty.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 04, 2006, 05:17:02 PM
Quote from: Diablo981 on October 04, 2006, 12:15:59 PM
last year when bsc played fsc away the fitchburg players were just as bad and the officiating was horrible. and after the game it was got worse. the refs ran off the field while fsc fans lined the walkway where the bsc players had to walk through to the locker room and continued to taunt the players. then there were a select few who hoppen in a truck and circled the bsc bus in the parking lot chanting "overrated". so if the bsc players were a unsportsmanlike before the game started they got it out of their systems, because when the game started the only personal fouls were against fsc. karma is a beast.

Yes, I noticed last year that when FSC played at EC the FSC fans were terrible sports.  They wanted a penalty call on every play and yelled at the EC players on the sidelines and some of them stood outside the EC locker room and continued to yell at the players when they came out after the game. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on October 04, 2006, 06:34:56 PM
still havin trouble reading i guess.....i said it was UNSPORTSMANLIKE....stop adding penalty guy....u'r puttin words in my mouth
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Moose50 on October 04, 2006, 08:19:58 PM
I too was at the FSC/BSC game.  I'm a fan of FSC and the last play was a fumble.  The QB did not have a "handle" on the ball as the snap went right through his hands.  No, the refs didn't screw the kids this week.  What really bothered me, as others that were there and have mentioned in this posting, was the conduct of the BSC players, especially #99.  He taunted the FSC players during warm-ups and put his hands on Coach Haverty.  If the BSC administration doesn't do something about this act in particular, the BSC team will find itself in big trouble later on in the season when games are decided on penalties.  There was talk that even the BSC COACHES wanted to start a fight with the FSC staff after the game. Just one more thing for the athelitic director and the president of the college to deal with I guess.     
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Daddio on October 04, 2006, 08:45:37 PM
There was talk that even the BSC COACHES wanted to start a fight with the FSC staff after the game.

That could be the dumbed comment I have ever heard on this board!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on October 04, 2006, 10:15:27 PM
i'm pretty sure fitchburg has always been the team with penalty issues not bsc...just gonna throw that out there
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 04, 2006, 10:17:59 PM
Quote from: Daddio on October 04, 2006, 08:45:37 PM
That could be the dumbed comment I have ever heard on this board!!!

Dumbed? Hmm ...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on October 05, 2006, 07:22:11 AM
Darn it Pat, you beat me to it. ;D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Daddio on October 05, 2006, 07:50:10 AM
You got me :D...still the dumbest comment I've read...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on October 05, 2006, 06:01:25 PM
Predictions:
Maine Maritime over Worcester
Nichols over Salve Regina
UMass Dartmouth over WNEC
Endicott over Plymouth
Westfield over Mass Maritime
Bridgewater over Framingham
Curry over MIT

GOW: Coast Guard over Fitchburg
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: DijBurg on October 05, 2006, 10:41:12 PM
A.  I had the best view of the last play in the bsc fsc game and it was an obvious fumble, of course I am biased but at this point what would lying accomplish.
B.  Any exchanges of words in our warm up line consisted of jarring back and forth, and maybe one player leaving the line by about 5 feet, thats about it.  Anyone who that really pissed off can rest assured that fsc more than made up for it with their cheap shots, unending taunting during the game, and not to mention incredibly unsportsmanlike conduct by the entire coaching staff in reference to not only the media and our coaches, but to me as well...  but in the end ill take the w
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on October 06, 2006, 07:16:18 AM
Maine Maritime over Worcester, Goog game, but WSC is weird this year
Nichols over Salve Regina, NC is rising back up
Wnec over UMD, WNEC is 3rd best in the Boyd
EC over PSU, EC is just better
Westfield over Mass Maritime, WSC gets on the board early and stays ahead
Coast Guard over Fitchburg, Coast Guard seems to be pretty good, and FSC can't score.
Bridgewater over Framingham, Prob close after a hard fought game last week.
Curry kills MIT, Right

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 06, 2006, 12:38:59 PM
NEFC PIcks for the week:

MME over WSC - I just think that this is a down year for WSC
Nichols over SRU - SRU has a long way to go yet and Nichols is playing good football right now.
WNEC over UMD - This could be the best game of the week.  Both teams have struggled this year but are playing good football.  I give the home team the edge.
Westfield over MMA - I think Westfield will get this one.
CGA over Fitchburg - CGA will likely win the NEFC this year after years of playing tougher teams.
BSC over Framingham - no explanation needed.
EC over PSC - I think this will be a good game and EC better be ready to play becasue PSC is not a pushover.
Curry over MIT - No Brainer for the MIT boys.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bignefcfan15 on October 07, 2006, 09:11:38 AM
Maine Maritime over Worcester
Nichols over Salve Regina
WNEC over UMass Dartmouth
Endicott over Plymouth
Mass Maritime over Westfield
Bridgewater over Framingham
Curry over MIT
Coast Guard over Fitchburg- Coast Guard wins the division
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 08, 2006, 10:58:44 PM
What is going on with WSC this year?
They're playing a Soph QB that is terrible... Is last years Starter Hurt? And their tailback situation... it seems like they went with a new tailback this week?
They put up 3 points... this used to be a team that ran an exciting spread offense and now they're running a offense from the 50's... anyone on this site have any insight on this team? Where did they find the new O Cord?

Their defense looks pretty solid holding Maine to 12 points after being on the field for most of the game
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on October 09, 2006, 07:58:56 AM
Big game this weekend - Endicott vs. Curry - anyone seen both teams this year?  What do you think?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on October 09, 2006, 09:34:45 AM
I will actually be at the EC Curry game this week. My predicition is that the winner of this game takes the conference...and possibly gets that first win for the NEFC in NCAAs. I haven't seen either team, but I know EC now has their top running backs returning and seems to be coming together after a few shaky games.
Curry has looked fairly dominant, through the scores I've seen and it will definitely be a great game. Last year EC lost on a questionable holding call late in the game and will looking to get some revenge for it. I look forward to the game and my prediciton is that EC will pull this one out.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on October 09, 2006, 09:44:49 AM
EC/Curry and coast guard/BSC this week. Good games... but....

If coast guard wins the division or conference then the NEFC has a long way to go before that 1st NCAA win.  Even a 1 loss CGA team proves that. CGA went 0-14 in the liberty league and had a terrible record against the E8,LL, FFC, UCAA, the past 7-8 years.

I guess the problem, as stated by others on this page, is the need for full time coaching (and facility upgrades). There's definetly talent in the HS pool, but they are not ending up on NEFC teams.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: sickofBS on October 09, 2006, 12:12:27 PM
the biggest problem witht he NEFC is that majority of the schools are within the greater boston area, and there are sooo many other football school in the area also.

the talent is spread out so thin among all the teams that its hard to put together a dominating team.  throw this in along with coaches, facilites, ect. and thats why the NEFC struggles.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 09, 2006, 01:06:21 PM
Quote from: sickofBS on October 09, 2006, 12:12:27 PM
the biggest problem witht he NEFC is that majority of the schools are within the greater boston area, and there are sooo many other football school in the area also.

the talent is spread out so thin among all the teams that its hard to put together a dominating team.  throw this in along with coaches, facilites, ect. and thats why the NEFC struggles.

you also need some academically competitive schools that fall inbetween CGA, MIT and the rest of the league.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: seahawkpride on October 09, 2006, 08:26:27 PM
I have seen both Endicott and Curry this year while watching Salve Regina play them. Both teams beat us up pretty bad. Endicott was just getting their top runner back so he only had a few carries although they did not need him against us. That game was about 3 weeks ago so he is probably back to full speed. Endicott in my opinion is more balanced offensively than Curry which tends to run more power taking advantage of their size on the o-line. We had a little more success offensively against Endicott than Curry.
Although we hung with Curry for a half until their size and the fact our defense was on the field for the majority of the half did us in I believe Curry will be able to control the ball keeping the Endicott crowd out of the game and eventually their size will win out. Endicott is a good team and their non-conference schedule was tougher than Currys but we turned the ball over 5 times against them and hurt ourselves. We ran almost twice as many offensive plays against Endicott than Curry and had our best showing of the year rushing the ball against them. Some of the stats may be skewed due to the fact Endicott started putting their 2s in the game but I still believe Curry will win a tough close game. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on October 11, 2006, 04:24:19 PM
The Endicott vs. Curry is a toss up.. Both good defenses and both can move the ball on offense.. Maybe what ever QB  does the best will be the difference.Is Endicott now only going with one QB?  I think that this should be Endicott's year but will see.
What's going on at Westfield losing to Mass maritime.? 

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 12, 2006, 07:54:16 AM
I think EC had a slightly better team last year when they faced Curry than this year's team.  This year the strong EC backfield has been hurt with injuries and those backs are just now getting back into the games.  I think Curry might be a little better this year than last so I am giving the edge to Curry, although I think it will be a great match-up and has become a great rivalry in such a short time period. 

What has happened to WNEC?  They looked like they would have a strong team this year after losing some heartbreaker games last season, but they are not looking good.  I also thought MIT would be having a better season.  Nichols is coming back stronger this year.  Westfield is down.  Fitchburg looks like they are weaker this year as well. 

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on October 13, 2006, 07:28:49 AM
UMass Dartmouth over Salve Regina . UMD is hard to figure out
Curry over Endicott, Great game
Plymouth over Nichols, Sorry Nichols, but PSU is pretty good
Framingham over Westfield, why not?
Coast Guard over Bridgewater, Probably another good game
Mass Maritime over Maine Maritime, No idea who should win, so this seems fine
WNEC over MIT, WNEC is a decent team that has no luck
Fitchburg over Worcester, I have heard this is a rivalry, then why is it in the middle of the year and not in the last week?


Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 13, 2006, 09:15:07 AM
UMD over Salve - This is not Salve's year and UMD is still inthe hunt
Curry over EC - great game
CGA over BSC - CGA will show just how strong they are in this one
MME over MMA - giving the W to the home team
Westfield over Framingham - Westfield can't be so bad taht they lose this one
PSU over Nichols - PSU has a pretty good team that is being overlooked
Fitchburg over Worcester State - Worcester has been too inconsistent
WNEC over MIT - Maybe the true WNEC will show up this week
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jeff on October 13, 2006, 11:51:18 AM
Quote from: gullgrad on October 13, 2006, 07:28:49 AM
Framingham over Westfield, why not?

to answer your question specifically....would would they win this game as they have won 7% of their games and have an awful coach over the last four years?  has FSC beaten Westfield over the last decade or two? have they ever? I doubt it..

other than that, I guess they are do for a win, so "why not".... ;D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on October 13, 2006, 12:30:07 PM
Coast Guard over Bridgewater State: Coast Guard took a step down joining the NEFC but they're tearing through it

MME over MMA

Plymouth State over Nichols:  This one could be close, but Plymouth State is making some noise.

Westfield over Framingham: Normally predicted as a blowout this one could be close...unfortunately

Worcester State over Fitchburg: Fitchburg doesn't seem to have what they have had in past years.

UMD over Salve: Salve could be good in years to come....just not this year.

WNEC over MIT:  these two teams were picked early to be sleepers and so far all they've done is sleep.

Game of the week:

EC over Curry: I'm probably the only one picking EC to win it but it's their homecoming, they are finally getting back their stud running backs, and with the leadership that EC has they should have a good shot at finally beating the colonels. As per usual, it all comes down to who makes the fewest mistakes.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bignefcfan15 on October 13, 2006, 02:35:48 PM
MME over MMA
Nichols over Plymouth State-just because
Westfield over Framingham-if westfield loses this one, *&^%$#%^&*!
Worcester State over Fitchburg-this use to be a good game
UMD over Salve
WNEC over MIT-WNEC is the new fitchburg, give them a couple years.
BSC over Coast Guard-even though I picked CG to win division, BSC's D, good!
Curry over EC- to be the champ, you have to first beat the champs.
Title: The balance of power is shifting.
Post by: bignefcfan15 on October 13, 2006, 02:55:50 PM
I find it funny now when I go to make picks/predictions how much the balance of power has shifted over the years. 4-5 years ago it was Westfield and Worcester in the bogan. Now those two teams have nose dived and Fitchburg was the team the two previous years and they've dropped this year off the map as well. Bridgewater has reemerge and WNEC I believe is the new Fitchburg. WNEC is getting better and better each year (humm, maybe a full time coaching staff could be the reason?).  UMD use to be the team to beat with Curry in the boyd but UMD now seems drained and EC is the new beast. My hats off to a team like Curry. They can keep it very consistent year after year.

One other thing, if a team such as Coast Guard can come into the nefc and win the division but go 1-9 in their previous league, that shows something. I doubt they've got that much better or maybe it's the competition they are playing now? Does this make sense to anyone else? Good luck this week to all the teams.-Cheers
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballdad55 on October 13, 2006, 05:19:38 PM
Quote from: 63Center on October 12, 2006, 07:54:16 AM
I think EC had a slightly better team last year when they faced Curry than this year's team. 

63center how can you say that? Have you seen EC play at all this year? I saw EC play a few weeks ago and their defense is outstanding, all of the starters have returned along with some new editions. Also I think that EC's offense got better this year. EC's offensive line got a lot better through graduation, and even though when I saw EC play some of their running backs were hurt, their replacements did a good job. Also, all of the running backs who did not play when I saw EC play must be back to full strength by now. If you argument is that they lost a lot of senior leadership I think your wrong again I think what they gained was a lot of senior leadership because most of the seniors this year have been starting since they were freshman, and there are more seniors this year. As for the EC Curry game it will be the best game of the season in the NEFC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan2005 on October 14, 2006, 02:27:11 AM
One other thing, if a team such as Coast Guard can come into the nefc and win the division but go 1-9 in their previous league, that shows something. I doubt they've got that much better or maybe it's the competition they are playing now? Does this make sense to anyone else? Good luck this week to all the teams.-Cheers

It's pretty simple... the Liberty League is a dominant power in the East... teams like Hobart, Union, RPI... The NEFC is like a club league compared to the Liberty leage.  The NEFC will not win a playoff game for a long time.   
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 14, 2006, 05:41:32 PM
FootballDad55,

No I have not seen EC play this year, but certainly follow the NEFC and the stats.  I agree with a lot of what you stated, but for the group of players they have this year they should be playing much better by now.  They should not have lost to Hartwick and certainly should have played better against Nichols and Curry.  They seem to self-destruct, which is an indicator of lack of senior leadership.   If EC is better this year, then the rest of the NEFC must have improved even more.  Look at the EC games this year at this time of the season versus last year.  By this time last year they had played tougher teams (example UMD, WNEC, and Fitchburg) and won all of them.  Last year's team was also rated in the top 10 teams in the NorthEast at this time of the seaosn.  This team has not made it into the top 10 yet.  I realize that they have been playing with a lot of their stars our injured and have had a lot of expectations placed on them.  I do not think they have lived upto those expectations.   When they are all healthy, this year's team should be a better team, but without the key players, EC is is just an average NEFC team this year and Curry proved that this afternoon.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on October 16, 2006, 11:05:36 AM
Quote from: footballfan2005 on October 14, 2006, 02:27:11 AM
One other thing, if a team such as Coast Guard can come into the nefc and win the division but go 1-9 in their previous league, that shows something. I doubt they've got that much better or maybe it’s the competition they are playing now? Does this make sense to anyone else? Good luck this week to all the teams.-Cheers

It's pretty simple... the Liberty League is a dominant power in the East... teams like Hobart, Union, RPI... The NEFC is like a club league compared to the Liberty leage.  The NEFC will not win a playoff game for a long time.  

It's been a while but coast guard used to be pretty competitive in the east. They were a playoff team in the late 90's when they only took 16 teams. They get kids from all over the country, although the pool of candidates must be pretty small (I never knew they had a coast guard academy until I played against them.)

Given their recent struggles against the LL, I don't see the NEFC winning a playoff game just yet. But if CGA or Plymouth state can bring in the kids they used to (or if EC/Curry can kick it up a notch) then sure some unlucky team will have the distiction of allowing the NEFC it's 1st win.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Random Task on October 16, 2006, 02:51:14 PM
A question to the Board, Coast Guard Acadamy is 5-1 this year in the NEFC and thier record from thier time in the Liberty League (since 1999) is 14-51. Did something change at Coast Guard or is the competition and team strength that different in the Liberty League vs. the NEFC? Any Thoughts.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 16, 2006, 05:03:51 PM
Competition in LL is much better than in NEFC.  Only loss for CGA this year is outside the NEFC.  There are teams in the LL (e.g., Springfield) ranked nationally and there is no one in the NEFC even close to a national ranking.  Also look at the NEFC record in the D3 playoffs (0 wins).  Look at the overall record of NEFC teams that dare to play outside the of NEFC.   The NEFC has a long way to go to match up with LL teams.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on October 16, 2006, 06:29:33 PM
One huge thing no one realizes is that Coast Guard entered the division in a down year.  The two best teams BSC and Fitchburg both lost a number of starters, 16 from Bridgewater alone.  Coast Guard would not have been able to do this last year nor do I think they will continue it, and the last two wins were late comebacks....it's not like they're dominating.  I give them credit for what they've done, but they still have not proved that they are that great in a down year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on October 16, 2006, 07:20:14 PM
Your all have correct imput.....The Liberty league is by far a much better stronger brand of football as we saw in Endicott 2 losses to Hobart and RPI. Also Coast guard did enter the league in a down season and has taken advantage with there offensive production..defense suspect. let me say I give Endicott credit.They scheduled the 2 New york teams to open up with and they actually play Bates this weekend. All the other schools in the NEFC should schedule out of conference games as well. It will only better there programs and bring a better representatve to the playoffs.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 16, 2006, 08:25:03 PM
Quote from: waggle09 on October 16, 2006, 07:20:14 PM
Your all have correct imput.....The Liberty league is by far a much better stronger brand of football as we saw in Endicott 2 losses to Hobart and RPI. Also Coast guard did enter the league in a down season and has taken advantage with there offensive production..defense suspect. let me say I give Endicott credit.They scheduled the 2 New york teams to open up with and they actually play Bates this weekend. All the other schools in the NEFC should schedule out of conference games as well. It will only better there programs and bring a better representatve to the playoffs.

Endicott is not playing Bates this weekend who told you that?

And Endicott lost to Hartwick, not Hobart.  And Hartwick is one of the worst (actually the worst) team in upstate New York. 

Quote from: 63Center on October 16, 2006, 05:03:51 PM
Competition in LL is much better than in NEFC.  Only loss for CGA this year is outside the NEFC.  There are teams in the LL (e.g., Springfield) ranked nationally and there is no one in the NEFC even close to a national ranking.  Also look at the NEFC record in the D3 playoffs (0 wins).  Look at the overall record of NEFC teams that dare to play outside the of NEFC.   The NEFC has a long way to go to match up with LL teams.

Springfield is in the Empire 8, not the Liberty League.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: chopperj on October 17, 2006, 07:15:56 AM
I think that the NEFC needs to have a JV program to help develop their younger players and be competitive.  All of the top DIII schools, including Springfield, have them.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on October 17, 2006, 08:32:53 AM
Endicott has developed a JV team starting this year. They have a game scheduled against bates for JV, maybe that is what waggle is thinking
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on October 17, 2006, 11:40:01 AM
I know that Curry played one JV game this year as well.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on October 17, 2006, 06:56:29 PM
bridgewater also played dean in a jv game
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: seahawkpride on October 17, 2006, 07:45:26 PM
I agree that fielding a jv team would help develop and uncover talent for nefc teams. The only problem might be the number of players on the teams. I have one son who plays football at Salve where the total number pf players is 61. My other son plays at Springfield where the total number pf players is 132. Both are freshman but the jv team at Springfield allows one of them to get playing time where he can learn the schemes and calls while developing hopefully into a productive varsity player. Salve on the other hand does not field the numbers to allow them to have a jv team. Well I guess they could but a few injuries would put an end to it. Some of the better teams might get the numbers like Curry,Endicott, Bridgewater etc. but I don't know about the rest. I guess its a catch 22 situation where the successful teams have more players because they win which in turn allows them to develop these players on jv teams or at the very least gives them more of a talent pool to draw from.  One more thing I do agree with waggle09 in that nefc teams need to schedule more out of conference games which I think will make the league more competitive down the road.     
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: chopperj on October 17, 2006, 07:53:03 PM
I think that every team in the NEFC could field some type of a JV team, but even if it started off with just 5 or 6 teams it would help the development of the league over all.  It already looks like a few teams are making an effort.  Just like with anything it will be a slow start but then will develop.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 19, 2006, 05:06:59 PM
Week 8 Picks

FItchburg over MMA
BSC over Westfield - Westfield is down this year
MIT over Salve - could be a good game, but MIT is the better team this year
UMD over Nichols - This could be a good one an is a crucial game for both teams to stay in the top 2 in the Boyd
EC over WNEC - EC got the wake-up call last week and can't afford tp lose any more this year.  They better not take WNEC too lightly.
MME over Framingham - All this talk about JV teams, maybe Framingham would win if they played some of the JV teams.
Curry over PSU - Curry continues their winning ways
CGA over Worcester - Look for CGA and Curry in the NEFC Championship
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefan on October 19, 2006, 06:10:54 PM
JV programs cost money $$$ and some of the d3 schools in the NEFC are limited when it comes to the budget....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on October 19, 2006, 06:26:07 PM
Another week, another set of picks

Bridgewater State over Westfield....poor Westfield
Salve over MIT.....this one is tough, both teams are bad, but I look for salve to get things moving
UMD over Nichols....if UMD gets up early this could get ugly
Fitchburg over Mass Maritime....not the blowout everyone expects but a win is a win
EC over WNEC....this will be interesting. WNEC always plays EC close when at WNEC. EC coming off of a tough loss needs to get their act together
Maine Maritime over Framingham....will Framingham ever have a winning record? or even 3 wins?
Curry over Plymouth State.....not even tough for Curry
Coast Guard over Worcester State.....every weekend two things are a definite, Framingham will lose, and Coast Guard will win

one note on the JV teams, if you look, the teams that have been fairly consistent the last 5+ years (4 for EC) all have JV teams. Even though this is the first year EC has a jv team this could be the push they need to get them over the hump
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on October 20, 2006, 08:22:02 AM
Adding a jv team does cost a program money, plus you need the numbers to fill a team.  Not to mention something called title 9 (Gender Equity in Intercollegiate Athletics).   For example, if you were to add another male team, ie. jv football, then the school must come up with more money to add another womens team or sport to balance it.  This puts most small NEFC colleges in a bind, therefore thats why we dont see many jv teams around the league.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on October 20, 2006, 09:01:47 AM
Quote from: RockRB11 on October 20, 2006, 08:22:02 AM
Adding a jv team does cost a program money, plus you need the numbers to fill a team.  Not to mention something called title 9 (Gender Equity in Intercollegiate Athletics).   For example, if you were to add another male team, ie. jv football, then the school must come up with more money to add another womens team or sport to balance it.  This puts most small NEFC colleges in a bind, therefore thats why we dont see many jv teams around the league.

I'm not sure about roster sizes in the NEFC, but most NY teams around going to have about 100 players so you need a JV team to keep kids from quitting due to lack of playing time.

If NEFC rosters are kept low to conform to title IX, then thats a whole other problem all together, they might want to add a womens sport so they can field a bigger football team.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on October 20, 2006, 12:52:27 PM
Quote from: 63Center on October 19, 2006, 05:06:59 PM
CGA over Worcester - Look for CGA and Curry in the NEFC Championship

the captain obvious statement of the month, wait till after curry plays ec and cost guard plays bsc to predict that....good call
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 20, 2006, 04:13:03 PM
Quote from: RockRB11 on October 20, 2006, 08:22:02 AM
Adding a jv team does cost a program money, plus you need the numbers to fill a team.  Not to mention something called title 9 (Gender Equity in Intercollegiate Athletics).   For example, if you were to add another male team, ie. jv football, then the school must come up with more money to add another womens team or sport to balance it.  This puts most small NEFC colleges in a bind, therefore thats why we dont see many jv teams around the league.

There isn't a whole lot of money in the JV program budget, usually, just a couple day trips and referees. And you're not adding student-athletes, because those guys are already on the roster.

Title IX is a specious argument here at best.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: chopperj on October 20, 2006, 04:41:50 PM
Your correct about title 9.  You are not adding an extra team, you are just using players already on the roster.  Again my main point is that if the NEFC wants to increase it's level of play and be competetive in the NCAA tourny they will have to develop their younger players.  The JV program is a way to do this.  It can be kept cheap and also be effective.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 20, 2006, 06:02:23 PM
Quote from: Pimpingold on October 20, 2006, 12:52:27 PM
Quote from: 63Center on October 19, 2006, 05:06:59 PM
CGA over Worcester - Look for CGA and Curry in the NEFC Championship

the captain obvious statement of the month, wait till after curry plays ec and cost guard plays bsc to predict that....good call

Pimpingold, Curry has already beat EC.  CGA does still have to play BSC, but I think they can handle them
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 20, 2006, 09:42:57 PM
Coast Guard beat Bridgewater State last week.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bignefcfan15 on October 20, 2006, 10:26:07 PM
FItchburg over MMA
BSC over Westfield
Salve over MIT
UMD over Nichols
EC over WNEC
MME over Framingham
Curry over PSU
CGA over Worcester
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 21, 2006, 07:44:12 AM
Pat, My bad on the forgetting that CGA beat BSC in a great game last week.  Thanks for the correction.  That is why we need someone like you running this site. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on October 21, 2006, 09:18:28 AM
Quote from: 63Center on October 20, 2006, 06:02:23 PM
Quote from: Pimpingold on October 20, 2006, 12:52:27 PM
Quote from: 63Center on October 19, 2006, 05:06:59 PM
CGA over Worcester - Look for CGA and Curry in the NEFC Championship

the captain obvious statement of the month, wait till after curry plays ec and cost guard plays bsc to predict that....good call

Pimpingold, Curry has already beat EC.  CGA does still have to play BSC, but I think they can handle them


I believe that Pimpingold was trying to point out that the prediction was indeed made only after Curry and CGA beat the above mentioned teams
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 21, 2006, 01:44:50 PM
I agree that establishing JV Teams will certainly help the NEFC move into a position to finally win a playoff game.  However, this may also be another wedge to separate the serious football schools from the not so serious football schools in the NEFC, just like the schools that have full time coaches.  Obviously schools with fulltime coaches, JV programs, and good facilities are going to widen the gaps between themselves and the remaining teams.  How long will schools such as BSC, EC, CGA. and Curry continue to remain in the NEFC and play mediocre teams.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on October 21, 2006, 09:40:07 PM
63 center, BSC is a long standing NEFC who has had 1 championship season in the last 5-10 years.  Why would you think they would leave now? EC is only 4 years old.  CG just returned to the league after bouncing around for a while and Curry was a very bad team before Coach Nelson arrived and they decided to make football important. 

The other question you should be asking is why would any team leave when there is an automatic bid to the NCAA's.  The closest to anyone leaving is the talk of the Mass State schools leaving the privates to a league of their own.

Without a full time staff, JV teams would be very difficult to have.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on October 22, 2006, 01:29:50 AM
there is not enough quality teams in the mascac to deserve an automatic bid, nor are there enoug legit school's to in the nefc to make the league legit, so without the 16 there isn't much........one huge issue though....does anyone that's talkin **** about the nefc realize that bsc only lost by 7......56-49 back in 99, the nefc is no that far off as much as everybody is hatin
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 22, 2006, 01:38:24 AM
43-38, actually. And that team that the NEFC lost to (Ursinus) in 1999 then lost 55-0 the next week.

You could try to point to that Western Connecticut/Westfield State 8-7 game, but then Western Connecticut lost the next week 43-14.

The Centennial Conference is 4-8 in the playoffs. Two of those wins were against the NEFC and they're 2-8 against everyone else.

Sorry -- having a couple competitive games doesn't make the NEFC competitive. It just means that the bottom two teams in the bracket met in the first round because of the inane seeding criteria.

Last year was the most impressive tourney performance for the NEFC. If Curry hadn't changed coaches in the offseason afterwards it might have a better shot at respectability.

By the way, it's not a matter of number of quality teams to get an automatic bid. Unfortunately, it's just a matter of having seven teams.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Old NEFC fan on October 22, 2006, 09:25:42 AM
Pat,

I'm confused as to how you can say Curry would have a better shot at respectability if it weren't for the coaching change. They are 8-0 and have retained more than half of the previous staff. Yes they are a young team but right now are playing better than they have in the past. Their Defense if nationally ranked in most categories. It looks like Curry has built on top of the foundation that Steve Nelson developed.

Yes the NEFC has a long way to go to be able to compete with the New York, New Jersey and PA schools on a regular basis but it appears the coaching change at Curry hasn't negatively effected that program one bit.

Adding Coast Guard and Plymouth State to the league will only help in the long run by improving the overall level of competition. As for playing outside of the league, I'm in agreement that it would only help the league from a competitive standpoint. However I'm not an AD who has an athletic budget to consider and taking 60-80 players, coaches and trainers on an out of state road trip certainly does cost a lot of money.

I would also like to add a special thanks to you for hosting this wonderful web site that gives players, coaches, fans and family members of D3 programs around the country a venue for their programs. Keep up the great work.


Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 22, 2006, 09:37:34 AM
Quote from: Old NEFC fan on October 22, 2006, 09:25:42 AM
Pat,

I'm confused as to how you can say Curry would have a better shot at respectability if it weren't for the coaching change. They are 8-0 and have retained more than half of the previous staff. Yes they are a young team but right now are playing better than they have in the past. Their Defense if nationally ranked in most categories. It looks like Curry has built on top of the foundation that Steve Nelson developed.

Yes the NEFC has a long way to go to be able to compete with the New York, New Jersey and PA schools on a regular basis but it appears the coaching change at Curry hasn't negatively effected that program one bit.

Adding Coast Guard and Plymouth State to the league will only help in the long run by improving the overall level of competition. As for playing outside of the league, I'm in agreement that it would only help the league from a competitive standpoint. However I'm not an AD who has an athletic budget to consider and taking 60-80 players, coaches and trainers on an out of state road trip certainly does cost a lot of money.

I would also like to add a special thanks to you for hosting this wonderful web site that gives players, coaches, fans and family members of D3 programs around the country a venue for their programs. Keep up the great work.




good post.  Skip Bandini is a great coach and I also believe that he will bring Curry even more success than in the past.

(also former Ithaca SS Todd Nestor is the Curry DC.)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 22, 2006, 12:55:50 PM
Quote from: Old NEFC fan on October 22, 2006, 09:25:42 AM
Pat,

I'm confused as to how you can say Curry would have a better shot at respectability if it weren't for the coaching change. They are 8-0 and have retained more than half of the previous staff. Yes they are a young team but right now are playing better than they have in the past. Their Defense if nationally ranked in most categories. It looks like Curry has built on top of the foundation that Steve Nelson developed.

Because Nelson was a proven commodity in the Division III community and change is never automatically good for a top team. The new coach has to be proven. And not just against other NEFC teams. Sure, the defense is ranked statistically, but who are they playing against?

Quote from: Old NEFC fan on October 22, 2006, 09:25:42 AM
Yes the NEFC has a long way to go to be able to compete with the New York, New Jersey and PA schools on a regular basis but it appears the coaching change at Curry hasn't negatively effected that program one bit.

You are stuck thinking in NEFC terms. NEFC terms doesn't win playoff games. You have to think wider than that.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefan on October 22, 2006, 03:32:21 PM
What is alot of money to some of these programs is pocket change to some of the other.... adding a jv team with four away and four home contests will cost coaching (two-four additional coaches -6,000 to 12,000 dollars) food ( 2,000 dollars meal money), ref's (4,000 dollars), Trans. (4,000 dollars), other support staff(trainers, etc) ...... 20,000 dollars is about 25% of some of the NEFC budgets...... JV is unrealistic with the current make up of the NEFC..   
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 22, 2006, 03:51:40 PM
If you insist on four assistant coaches solely to handle three or four JV games then yes, it would be 20K. Meanwhile, all a program has to do is add 10 or so kids who wouldn't be in the school otherwise and it can justify the budget increase.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on October 22, 2006, 09:01:16 PM
Pat, you are more able to justify the additional cost at the privates then you are at the state schools.  Remember the state schools don't need football but the privates do.  They can justify an extra $30,000 in costs to  bring in 10 extra players that will in turn bring in an extra $300,000.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 23, 2006, 12:03:42 AM
Perhaps, but from all I've heard, I don't think the Massachusetts state schools can afford to turn down tuition-paying students.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on October 24, 2006, 03:03:42 PM
I am new to the whole D3 football scene and the NEFC.  What happened historically with football in this region that caused the NEFC to be (apparently) so far behind other leagues?  Are their programs just newer?  The East as a whole seems strong comparatively and then there is the poor NEFC.......why?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 24, 2006, 06:30:02 PM
Quote from: ctgridironmom on October 24, 2006, 03:03:42 PM
I am new to the whole D3 football scene and the NEFC.  What happened historically with football in this region that caused the NEFC to be (apparently) so far behind other leagues?  Are their programs just newer?  The East as a whole seems strong comparatively and then there is the poor NEFC.......why?

I would say a few things....

1) Very little football tradition with any NEFC school except for maybe Coast Guard.

2) Except for MIT and Coast Guard, NEFC schools are academically a step behind other eastern football schools.  (Nescac, LL, NE-10,)

3- Not too many full time staffs with full time jobs at the school.

4- Mass state schools arent cheap compared to other state schools, or even Northeast private schools which will give you just as much financial aid as these state schools.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: labart96 on October 24, 2006, 07:17:55 PM
I'd agree with Senator Utah.

Many of the other NE/Upstate NY schools have been playing football since the late 1800's and have long standing football tradition and history (and the endowments and booster support that come along with it).

The NE region (and MA in particular where most NEFC teams are based) is (second only to NY) the most heavily recruited by pretty much all the Top eastern D3 teams, as well as many from the "South" Region (in this case, PA, MD, etc) - as well as the usual line up of "sticker schools" (such as the LL and NESCAC schools). 

I am aware that a few of the other NEFC schools are somewhat commuter based making having an on campus program like football that much tougher to support.  It takes a special kind of student athlete to enroll at the Service Academies and these institutions will appeal to only so many kids too.

In my own personal experience, the "sticker school" brand awareness of NE also puts these programs at a disadvantage as well.  I have to admit, I never even heard of most of the schools in the NEFC and I grew up in New England before going to play D3 ball in college.  I pretty much only looked at a couple of LL and NESCAC schools b/c that's where my parents and guidance counselors directed me towards (and expected me to go to).
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on October 25, 2006, 08:22:44 AM
aren't there a few DII and I-AA non scholarship schools in the NE region that all compete for kids?  Stonehill and a few others?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on October 25, 2006, 02:28:01 PM
Quote from: DJAC Darrell on October 25, 2006, 10:02:48 AM
Is Curry for real this season? Is there any cahnce they can get any higher than an 8 seed and possibly win the conference's first playoff game.

i saw Curry play against Endicott this year for ECs homecoming. They were very slow to start but once they got rolling it was hard for EC to shut them down. I think Curry has a pretty good chance at winning an NCAA game this year, but everyone has a CHANCE. as far as a higher seed i don't think they'll be any higher, just because of the reputation that the NEFC has. everyone knows that the NEFC team is the easy team and everyone wants to play them. but we'll see
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on October 26, 2006, 07:34:52 AM
Ive seen Curry play over the years, and even played against them a few years back when Zammitt was there.  They've had some great teams, and this year they've been impressive too. But they will by no means get higher than an 8 seed and they will get crushed in the first round.  They and everyone else in the NEFC just cant match up to the upstate NY schools, NJ, etc... even springfield college for that matter
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: chopperj on October 26, 2006, 07:53:03 AM
I don't agree with the academic standards, Curry has the weakest, but I do agree with the full time staffing.  It's dam near imposible to maintain a program with recruiting and all the other time consuming issues, with out some full time staff.  I also think that most of the NEFC schools, administrators I mean, realy don't care if they have strong programs.  Most of the schools have mediocre media guides if they have them at all.  As with Curry, and it appears Endicot, the school has to take an interest in being competetive.   
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: coachzilly on October 26, 2006, 03:45:09 PM
It's about that time of the year.  When will Framingham win a game?  When will Sully go?  It is now well beyond laughable.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 27, 2006, 06:48:41 PM
NEFC Picks for Week 9

UMD over EC - this should be a good game, but EC just doesn't seem to have the team this year that everyone expected.

CGA over MME - SGA wins again

MMA over Framingham

Curry over Nichols

WNEC over Salve - WNEC has a good defense and Salve is really down this year.

Fitchburg over Westfield - This could be a good one depending on which teams show up for both schools

PSU over MIT

BSC over Worcester State
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bignefcfan15 on October 27, 2006, 07:36:10 PM
Easy picks this week:
FSC over Westfield
BSC over Worcester
Mass over Framingham
Coast Guard over Maine
             &
Curry over Nichols
UMass over Endicott
WNEC over Salve
PSU over MIT

Hope the weather is good for the games and good luck to all.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 28, 2006, 04:47:50 PM
Congrats to Framingham State for finally winning a game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: sickofBS on October 28, 2006, 05:30:03 PM
Curry Clinches Boyd title, CGA clinces today also... gonna play at CGA
should be interesting since both teams scrimmaged at the begining of the season.

Fun fact. Nichols had -22 yards of total offense on the day against curry's first D
Congrats to Framingham.   

Have a great weekend stay dry find higher ground....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jeff on October 28, 2006, 08:53:13 PM
a record of 4-41 for FSC over FIVE years sounds a heck of a lot better than 3-42... :-[

And of the 4-wins they have had in 5-years under 'coach' sullivan, and I use that term loosely with a small 'c', THREE of the four wins are against Mass Maritime...

So under sullivan, FSC is 3-2 against Mass Maritime and 1-39 against the rest of the conference...

Holy crap...

With the big win, Sullivan will probably sign a 5-year contract extension...

Does anyone notice that NEFC can't even compete in terms of message board posts?  Other conferences have far more activity...Does anyone care about a 16-school conference to make a post or two?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 29, 2006, 11:50:08 AM
CGA vs. Curry for NEFC should be a good game especially if CGA gets their starting QB back.  Their defense has won them the last two games as their offense as sputtered without  the starting QB.  Next week against Framingham should allow CGA to rest their starters and to try a few new things in preparation fior Curry.  In the meantime, I assume that Curry will likely need to play their starters a little longer, assuming they want to finsh up with an unblemished Boyd division record.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: DijBurg on October 30, 2006, 12:53:04 AM
yeah should be a really great game... heres some numbers to chew on:  these are the amount of points cga has beaten its opponents in the nefc by - westfield, 14 (game was tied 4 minutes into the 4th quarter)  fitchburg, 1.  bridgewater, 4.  worcester, 7.  maine, 3.  the only win that shows anything is a 41-0 blowout against mass maritime who just lost to friggin framingham btw.  a wins a win and congrats to coastguard for being undefeated in the nefc, but im gonna go out on a limb and say curry has the upper hand.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on October 30, 2006, 11:09:46 AM
hiistorically speaking, or currently speaking for that matter, is one of the divisions considered to be stronger than the other?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: labart96 on October 30, 2006, 01:02:31 PM
Quote from: ctgridironmom on October 30, 2006, 11:09:46 AM
hiistorically speaking, or currently speaking for that matter, is one of the divisions considered to be stronger than the other?

CT MOM -

Check out the following for some historical perspective on the NEFC:

http://www.newenglandfootballconference.com/history.html

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on October 30, 2006, 01:45:21 PM
Let's go Coast Guard... CUT THAT MEAT!! CUT THAT MEAT!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on November 01, 2006, 08:46:28 AM
Just a question, who is line for an ECAC bid? Bridgewater, Maine, The Gulls, UMd? Just wondering who you would think!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on November 01, 2006, 08:48:39 AM
Okay, so my gulls are probably not in the running with a 5-4 record.   I just thought I would beat everyone to that comment. :-\
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on November 01, 2006, 12:14:48 PM
def. not.  I'd say bridgewater, umd...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Daddio on November 01, 2006, 02:32:50 PM
ECAC--Bridgewater, UMD and  Coast Guard if they lose to Curry...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 01, 2006, 03:40:58 PM
REMINDER TO ALL SCHOOL OFFICIALS LURKING:

ECAC Football Championship declaration forms are due TOMORROW (November 2, 2006) by 5pm EST.  However, a new wrinkle this year is a $500 maximum penalty for late declaration (until Friday, November 10, 2006).  Find out more information and find the form at the following link:

http://www.ecac.org/feature/feature.asp?id=3379
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 01, 2006, 04:45:34 PM
The following 27 teams are elligible for the ECAC Championships.  An "X" denotes that the team is eligible for the NCAA Playoffs.  Ten teams have received such "X"s, but only six of these teams, at most, will be invited to the NCAA Playoffs.  The ECAC Committee will choose six teams from the remaining teams.  Therefore, teams not in the top 12 (indicated by the dotted line) must play their way into an ECAC slot or hope for the Committee to try to balance Upstate NY team appearances with New England team appearances.

Curry   9-0   X
Cortland State   8-0   X
Hobart   7-0   X
St. John Fisher   8-1   X
Coast Guard   7-1   X
Ithaca   7-1   X
Springfield   7-1   X
Union   6-1   X
Bridgewater St.   6-2   
Alfred   6-2   X
Rochester   6-2   X
RPI   5-2   
-------------------------------------
Mass-Dartmouth   5-3   
West. New Eng.   5-3   
Maine Maritime   5-3   
West. Conn.   5-3   
Mount Ida   4-3   
Endicott   5-4   
Husson   5-4   
Nichols   4-4   
Fitchburg State   4-4   
St. Lawrence   3-4   
Plymouth State   3-5   
Mass. Maritime   3-5   
Brockport State   3-5   
Hartwick   3-5   
Merchant Marine   3-5
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 02, 2006, 06:06:19 PM
I agree with Daddio on the ECAC picks.  However if UMD loses to Curry this weekend (likely) that may knock them out of the running.  I can't see EC getting in this year if they couldn't make it last year with a better record.  Also the loser of the NEFC Championship game will likely go to ECAC.  Big thanks to Frank Rossi for the info on the ECAC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 03, 2006, 02:44:11 PM
Picks for Last week of NEFC Regular Season

Curry over UMD to preserve the undefeated record.

Worcester State over Westfield to end a miserable season for Westfield

BSC over MMA to preserve an ECAC spot for BSC

Nichols over WNEC - This should be a good match up.  I give the Bison the "W" becasue they are at home and it will be the last game for the Seniors

Fitchburg over MME - Why not

PSU over Salve

EC over MIT - Gulls need the win to have any hope of an ECAC bid.  I would say that an ECAC bid is out, but stranger things have happened.

CGA over Framingham - DUH!

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on November 06, 2006, 05:52:59 PM
Quote from: jeff on October 28, 2006, 08:53:13 PM


Does anyone notice that NEFC can't even compete in terms of message board posts?  Other conferences have far more activity...Does anyone care about a 16-school conference to make a post or two?

So big NEFC Championship game this weekend and as noted above this board is awfully quiet.........

Can 3 time running champion undefeated Curry beat newcomer to the NEFC  from the bottom of the Liberty League, also undefeated, Coast Guard?   

If Coast Guard wins, what does that say about the NEFC?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 06, 2006, 06:22:42 PM
The following 19 teams are eligible for the ECAC Championships:

Curry   10-0   X
Cortland State   8-1   X
St. John Fisher   8-1   X
Coast Guard   8-1   X
Springfield   8-1   X
Hobart   7-1   X
Ithaca   7-2   X
Bridgewater St.   7-2   
Alfred   7-2   X
Rochester   7-2   X
-------------------------------------
Maine Maritime   6-3
RPI   5-3   
Endicott   6-4   
Husson   6-4
Mass-Dartmouth   5-4   
West. New Eng.   5-4   
West. Conn.   5-4   
Nichols   5-4   
Mount Ida   4-4 

Teams with an "X" are NCAA Playoff eligible.  However, at least four of these nine teams will make the NCAA Playoffs.  Therefore, teams not listed in the Top 10, denoted by the dashed line, will have to hope for more teams to receive NCAA bids or for the Committee to place a lower-record team above a team above the dashed line in making decisions.

We do know that the Curry-Coast Guard loser will be one of the six teams.  The other five teams are still very much in flux.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 06, 2006, 06:28:20 PM
With CGA and Curry in the top 5 in most statistical categories in the NEFC this season, I expect a good close game on Sat.  If CGA has their starting QB back it will be a much better game, but I am not sure that CGA can beat Curry.  If CGA can take advantage of the Curry slow starting and get up by a 10 or more points they may have a chance.  Curry has just been impressive this year and has that winning attitude.  CGA is enjoying the opportunity to win in a weak conference this year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on November 07, 2006, 01:21:13 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 06, 2006, 06:22:42 PM
We do know that the Curry-Coast Guard loser will be one of the six teams.  The other five teams are still very much in flux.

Per the Curry Press Release: "Should the Colonels lose this Saturday, their season would officially be over. According to NCAA rules, teams may only play a maximum of 10 total games in one season, with one additional contest allowed for a conference championship game. NCAA rules do not provide an exemption for an ECAC Championship game.
"
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 07, 2006, 06:53:45 PM
Quote from: ctgridironmom link=topic=3576.msg600185#msg600185/quote]

Per the Curry Press Release: "Should the Colonels lose this Saturday, their season would officially be over. According to NCAA rules, teams may only play a maximum of 10 total games in one season, with one additional contest allowed for a conference championship game. NCAA rules do not provide an exemption for an ECAC Championship game.
"

If this is correct, EC and Husson are also done as they have both already played 10 games.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: oldman44 on November 07, 2006, 07:32:50 PM
Coast Guard over Curry.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 07, 2006, 11:47:19 PM
Quote from: 63Center on November 07, 2006, 06:53:45 PM
Quote from: ctgridironmom link=topic=3576.msg600185#msg600185/quote]

Per the Curry Press Release: "Should the Colonels lose this Saturday, their season would officially be over. According to NCAA rules, teams may only play a maximum of 10 total games in one season, with one additional contest allowed for a conference championship game. NCAA rules do not provide an exemption for an ECAC Championship game.
"

If this is correct, EC and Husson are also done as they have both already played 10 games.

No, I think you get one exception above 10. Curry is using its to play the NEFC title game. Endicott and Husson can use theirs in the ECAC if selected.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on November 08, 2006, 02:42:13 PM
Coach Zily got his wish.  I just read the shortest article ever on D3football.  It pretty much just said that the coach was done.  Quick and to the point i guess.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 08, 2006, 11:43:35 PM
No comments from the boys on this news?

http://www.d3football.com/notables/2006/11/08/Framingham+State+coach+not+renewed
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on November 09, 2006, 08:08:24 AM
Yea I was expecting about 5,000 comments on Framingham St.  Or maybe we finally realized that there are plenty more important things to discuss with much more substance to them, then a pathetic MA state school.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jeff on November 09, 2006, 12:03:48 PM
this conference is ONLY as strong as the weakest member....and if you want to play the high and mighty angle, this conference is useless and lacks substance from top to bottom.....and you are right, there are far more important items to discuss, I simply dont see them as no one gives a crap..

and this is by far the weakest conference in the nation and no one even cares to post on this message board on a high quality site...what a combo...worst football conference, worst conference spirit...

dont act like 6-posts about FSC ruined the flow of this conference board....GIVE ME A BREAK...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jeff on November 09, 2006, 12:09:35 PM
and this is about 5-years to late...this coach was a turd from the first whistle...

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on November 09, 2006, 01:09:00 PM
And you just helped justify my previous post. I'm not talking about a handful of posts, I'm talking about 15-20 posts about this "sully" guy and all the axe grinding..  There were times in the past were thats all this message board talked about, I just hope it doesnt get to that again.  And you talk about how you dont see the more pertinent items to discuss? Look at your last post, theres your answer why buddy.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: sickofBS on November 09, 2006, 01:48:42 PM
Ironic the NEFC game basically falls on Veterans day and its being played at a Military academy, should make for an interesting atmosphere for the visisting Curry.

Should be a great game, cant wait to see who makes the big plays.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on November 09, 2006, 02:03:31 PM
so my question is if u keep talking about how bad the conference why do u waste u'r time writing about.....there really is no point in coming on this site to say stupid things, i finally realized that there really never is any talk about what is going on within the leauge, but rather people talkin Sh*t about the leauge.  No one wants to hear it!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: labart96 on November 09, 2006, 02:10:18 PM
In New League, Coast Guard Didn't Miss The Boat
November 9, 2006
By TOM PULEO, Courant Staff Writer  NEW LONDON -- Christian George plays quarterback with Doug Flutie's daring, but he didn't choose the Coast Guard Academy to get on the cover of Sports Illustrated.

"I really didn't know what to expect out of football," said George, a junior from Rumson, N.J. "I came here to get an education and everything turned around. It's pretty sweet."

[edited to preserve newspaper's copyright. please provide link instead of copying and pasting an entire article. thanks]
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on November 09, 2006, 08:09:44 PM
Here is the link:  http://www.courant.com/sports/hc-coastguard1109.artnov09,0,6966516.story (http://www.courant.com/sports/hc-coastguard1109.artnov09,0,6966516.story)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on November 09, 2006, 09:08:50 PM
Every year people on this board rip the NEFC conf. and its lack of an NCAA win.  The chatter is that it's a poor league that can't compete outside its conf., therefore an unsuccessful league. I would argue that judging the league based on winning an NCAA game is weak. 

This is a very old league that accomplishes exactly what it is designed to do...offer kids a solid education while also being able to play football in a competitive league. (Competitive among itself).  There are a few teams who have been able to step outside the NEFC and compete.  EC, Curry, UMD, PSC, and BSC have consistently tried to play better teams whenever possible. UMD and Curry have played up a division, BSC has played all over, EC is trying and let's not forget that PSC was the face of D3 football in the region before they began to deemphasize the program.

The problem isn't that the coaches aren't willing to play above or willing to do everything they can to get the players needed to compete but the lack of institutional support plain and simple!

The problem with the board in regards to the lack of postings is that good conversation and questions are constantly interrupted by players who want to talk crap, through insults, and have nothing insightful to offer.  (my opinion for what it's worth)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: labart96 on November 09, 2006, 11:50:31 PM
My bags on the links.  Will provide links (thx ctmom!) in the future.

BTW - TGP is from the great state of CT and therefore k+ to ctmom!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 10, 2006, 12:05:21 AM
D3 fan, not to pee on your parade, but most of the LL teams have been playing football for over 100 years, are some of the best schools in the country, and win NCAA games.

NEFC... looooong way to go.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on November 10, 2006, 12:12:41 AM
Quote from: 'gro on November 10, 2006, 12:05:21 AM
D3 fan, not to pee on your parade, but most of the LL teams have been playing football for over 100 years, are some of the best schools in the country, and win NCAA games.

NEFC... looooong way to go.

'Gro seems a bit irritable, but...."offer kids a solid education".....hmmmm....outside of MIT and maybe Coast Guard.....what NEFC schools offer a "solid education" compared to the LL??
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Col. Partridge on November 10, 2006, 12:55:29 AM
Quote from: Union89 on November 10, 2006, 12:12:41 AM
Quote from: 'gro on November 10, 2006, 12:05:21 AM
D3 fan, not to pee on your parade, but most of the LL teams have been playing football for over 100 years, are some of the best schools in the country, and win NCAA games.

NEFC... looooong way to go.

'Gro seems a bit irritable, but...."offer kids a solid education".....hmmmm....outside of MIT and maybe Coast Guard.....what NEFC schools offer a "solid education" compared to the LL??

When did D3 Fan compare the NEFC to the LL?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 10, 2006, 08:23:00 AM
"This is a very old league that accomplishes exactly what it is designed to do...offer kids a solid education while also being able to play football in a competitive league."

I think this statement here is what Gro was talking about.  The LL schools and rivalaries are actually older, are better schools and also let kids play football in a competitive league.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on November 10, 2006, 08:38:36 AM
Outside of MIT and Coast Gaurd? There are plenty of good schools in the NEFC education wise. Not every kid scores 1300 on their SAT's and wants to be a biomedical engineer.  I agree with D3 fan's statement.  Alot of the schools do offer quality educations, but I guess thats all in the eye of the beholder.  To name a few, MIT, CG, EC not bad, WNEC is a nationally accredited business school and one of the tops in the area, and the list goes on depending on your "standards".  And no one is comparing NEFC to LL. Its quite obvious the NEFC has a long way to go.  I myself went to a school and played ball for 4 years at an NEFC school, and I wouldnt give up that experience for anything.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on November 10, 2006, 08:42:36 AM
And I'd hope that the people that so negatively rip this league and put everyone else up on a pedestal were past players who at least have some perspective.  Otherwise who are you to judge if you've never been there.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 10, 2006, 08:43:29 AM
Calm down.  No one is saying they arent good schools.  But if you had to rank them it would look something like this.....

1-MIT
2-CGA (kind of in a different category anyway)
3-The rest of the LL
4-The rest of the NEFC

And Ive never been to Harvard or U-Maine Farmington but I can tell you Harvard is the better school.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bearyear on November 10, 2006, 11:04:49 AM
as a player and fan of this league i feel that the talent in the nefc can compete with any other conference...the limiting factor with most of the schools in the nefc is the coaching staff...i never really whitnessed how much the coaching staff actually matters in a game, but i sureley found out this year. play calling on offense and defense are highschool level at best. you can see why cg and curry are in the championship, its clear they have the best staff in the conference. ill go out and say that i would put our best players against any other conference and it would be a good game.

just some thoughts dont beat me up.

cmon more posts people!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on November 10, 2006, 11:15:31 AM
I'll "calm down" when everyone stops trashing the NEFC. Go post in the LL or E8 if thats what you want to talk about.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 10, 2006, 11:26:09 AM
Ill post wherever I want first of all. 

Second of all, d3 posted an opinion on how the NEFC is a league that offers kids a good education while also being competitive.  Then Gro comes on and points out that there are many leagues that do the exact same thing.

And I myself played against an NEFC team in 1996 that was very well coached and tough.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on November 10, 2006, 11:52:25 AM
Quote from: bearyear on November 10, 2006, 11:04:49 AM
you can see why cg and curry are in the championship, its clear they have the best staff in the conference.

I have to say that I totally agree with BearYear.  My experience with coaches is as follows: played 2 varsity sports in H.S., played Division I basketball at 2 different schools, I am married to a H.S. coach, my son played 3 varsity team sports in high school and I went on several "recruiting" trips with him in the NEFC.  He ended up at Curry. 

I cannot say enough about their coaching staff and program.  They are strict and serious but care about their athletes having fun, after all it is a game.  They are knowledgable and caring. 

In turn the players are dedicated, serious, driven and have the best camaraderie top to bottom I have ever seen.  I have seen a player get their first start ever, play 2 series and have someone else go in for him.  The player being pulled goes up to the player going in, pats him on the back, slaps him on the helmet in encouragement and total support - amazing.

And coaching does make all of the difference between winning and losing.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bomberbacker on November 10, 2006, 02:20:57 PM
Should be a good championship game this weekend. What a difference it makes to have talented full time coaches. Also, Tom Kelley named the new head coach at Framingham State......Is this the AD? Or the AD's son? either way they have their work cut out for them.

Coast Guard 20
Curry 17
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bearyear on November 10, 2006, 07:56:57 PM
if curry wins it will now be 4 years in a row....
now i dont know if i would rather see them get their 4th championship in a row or have a new team to the conference come in and sweep the league.
id have to stick with curry on this one.
curry 17 cg 10
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 11, 2006, 09:19:24 AM
I am not going to get into the debate over which schools and which leagues have the better academics.  Since this is a football chat site, I will restrict my comments to football.  Although I like the NEFC and my son played 4 years in the NEFC, if the measure of success on the field is how well you do against the competition, I have to agree that the NEFC is a weak conference.  They are 0-7 in the NCAA.  Internally, against each other, they do play great games and they do give a great opportunity to kids to continue to play football after high school, but outside the NEFC they do have a long way to go.

Curry 28, CGA 24
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 11, 2006, 10:05:11 AM
I'm going to have to root for Coast Guard.  Will be lovely to see LL cellar dwellar win the NEFC.  Might send a message to the rest of the conference.

And you're all right...Coaching makes a HUGE difference.  But don't tease yourselves.  The NEFC talent can't touch the other leagues depth wise.  maybe a few players per team, but that's about it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bearyear on November 11, 2006, 10:23:40 AM

And you're all right...Coaching makes a HUGE difference.  But don't tease yourselves.  The NEFC talent can't touch the other leagues depth wise.  maybe a few players per team, but that's about it.
[/quote]

agree 100 percent, but all of that circles right back to the coaching staff and their ability to recruit. well i am hopeful for the future of the nefc.i read in an earlier post that you are only as good as your worst team. so i will say it is refreshing to see that framingham is attempting to bring life back into their program. once we get better competition within our conference it will make everyone a stronger team and prepare us for better talent when it comes playoff time.
gl to both teams today.

o and was there any word on george playing today?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 11, 2006, 03:23:14 PM
Congrats to Curry for winning their 4th straight NEFC Championship.  CGA had 3 opportunities in the red zone and came away with nothing.  You can't do that in a championship game.  Also CGA turned the ball over 4 times (3 INT ane 1 funble).  CGA did come back from a 3 TD deficit in the 2nd half to make a game of it, but ran out of time.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: BVHawk on November 11, 2006, 10:30:56 PM
Congrats to Curry on making the post season and best of luck!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on November 11, 2006, 11:47:58 PM
Lewdog, who would you want the message to be sent to?  The players who are doing all that they can?  The coaches who are trying to be better or the administration who doesn't care about winning an NCAA game.  I'm just asking because you have parents and players reading these posts but I'm sure the School Presidents or AD's aren't.  I'm just curious because it seems that poeple,like yourself,like to continue putting the NEFC down because why??? Does it make you feel better about your league?   The players get it.  They know that they haven't won a tourney game yet....How many times can it be repeated???

My point is that the poeple who can really make a difference aren't hearing what you're saying...and aren't judging the success of the league based on winning an NCAA gane.  Just my opinion....


Congrat's to Curry and CC
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on November 12, 2006, 12:51:25 PM
thanks d3 that was my point all along when i started this discussion u just put it a lot better.....and your right, we do know and our sick of hearing it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on November 12, 2006, 01:13:05 PM
Your welcome PG...  I wouldn't be surprised if Curry get's a chance to play a little closer to home next week regardless of the rankings. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 12, 2006, 01:25:13 PM
If they bring a lower seeded team into the bracket then yes, that would happen.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: sickofBS on November 12, 2006, 02:19:18 PM
Curry v Springfield.... interesting

I think both teams will be pumped for this one, they'll finally get to see who the best team in MA really is, seeing how both teams are always in the top 3 in New England but never play each other.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on November 12, 2006, 04:16:11 PM
Curry Springfield gives Curry a legitimate chance to win and move on to the second round.  Pat,I know you were looking ahead to possible turf wars for Springfield but this is a good match up for Curry.  Win or lose it should be a fun game to see.  Good luck Curry....

My prediction is upset....Curry beats Springfield in a shootout..... ;D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: retagent on November 12, 2006, 04:34:40 PM
Tom Kelley is going to be the new coach at Framingham State? He really did a good job with the Twins. Two World Series Championships. When he retired and Gardenhire came in, I was worried, but he seems to have kept up the winning tradition. TK coaching football. What next? ;) :)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fan of d3 on November 12, 2006, 04:41:47 PM
Please tell me you are joking when you say Curry will beat SC... I mean, COME ON.

It's cool and all if you wanna root on your team but be realistic. They are one of the best offensive teams in the country, their QB is the best athlete in the country, and you almost lost to CGA who was a bottom feeder in the LL.  Which by the way didnt SC beat the LL champ???

get a grip.  Congrats on making it but you will be making an early exit.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 12, 2006, 05:52:44 PM
Quote from: D3 Fan on November 11, 2006, 11:47:58 PM
Lewdog, who would you want the message to be sent to?  The players who are doing all that they can?  The coaches who are trying to be better or the administration who doesn't care about winning an NCAA game.  I'm just asking because you have parents and players reading these posts but I'm sure the School Presidents or AD's aren't.  I'm just curious because it seems that poeple,like yourself,like to continue putting the NEFC down because why??? Does it make you feel better about your league?   The players get it.  They know that they haven't won a tourney game yet....How many times can it be repeated???

My point is that the poeple who can really make a difference aren't hearing what you're saying...and aren't judging the success of the league based on winning an NCAA gane.  Just my opinion....


Congrat's to Curry and CC

Does it make me feel better about my league?  No.  I'm a MA guy, and i'd like to see them do well.  And there wasn't 1 d3 coach from the NEFC that recruited me.  I had plenty of local colleges, and plenty of other d3 schools, as well as a bunch of d2 and d1AA schools knocking my door down.  But not 1 NEFC coach.  I'm a firm believer that the High School talent in New England is up to par if not better than New York, but the kids go and play elsewhere, where they are wanted.  It's ashame.  Is it the players in the NEFC's fault that the teams aren't up to snuff?  Not at all.  It's the coaching and the Administration.  And while you may be sick of hearing it, I'm probably going to reiterate it every single year until the NEFC gets it's ass in gear.  Their coaches don't recruit hard enough.  The Administration doesn't put enough weight or emphasis on athletics.  And the result is an embarrassment on the national scene.  And with a few exceptions here and there, this is the same in just about all sports, not just football.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fells on November 12, 2006, 06:07:37 PM
Quote from: D3 Fan on November 12, 2006, 04:16:11 PM
Curry Springfield gives Curry a legitimate chance to win and move on to the second round.  Pat,I know you were looking ahead to possible turf wars for Springfield but this is a good match up for Curry.  Win or lose it should be a fun game to see.  Good luck Curry....

My prediction is upset....Curry beats Springfield in a shootout..... ;D

I have to agree here. I think Curry will beat Springfield as well. Final score prediction: Curry 49-42.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2006, 07:01:22 PM
For what its worth, Currys d-coor is former Ithaca player and coach (and former Springfield coach) Todd Nestor.  That could give Curry some sort of bonus.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: labart96 on November 12, 2006, 07:37:23 PM
Congrats to Curry.  Good luck vs. SC!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: The Truth 00 on November 12, 2006, 07:41:38 PM
oh yea, what kind of bonus is that??  curry will score some points but they aren't ready for springfield. get real nefc fans. they also have to play at springfield on the concrete turf against arguably the best player in all of d3. stop being so naive people.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2006, 07:44:55 PM
Quote from: The Truth 00 on November 12, 2006, 07:41:38 PM
oh yea, what kind of bonus is that??  curry will score some points but they aren't ready for springfield. get real nefc fans. they also have to play at springfield on the concrete turf against arguably the best player in all of d3. stop being so naive people.

Hey, I think SC will win 48-14.  Im just saying the Curry d-cord is very familiar with Springfields offense (and defense) thats all.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 12, 2006, 08:07:11 PM
The thing with Springfield is, you know what is coming.  Can you stop it?  1 team could this year.  I'm gonna go not too far out on this limb here and say that Curry certainly won't be able to stop it.  Too much speed for the Indian Spices.

I'm gonna be nice, and make my prediction as:

Springfield 35
Curry 10
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: sickofBS on November 12, 2006, 08:13:10 PM
After watching Selection show and watching Curry getting some disrespect, (Pat's looking forward past the first round cuz SC is gonna walk over curry, he didnt say it bit it was there i saw it... Im not puttin down Pat, he's the man. just tellin it they way i saw it)
And reading the posts here, (because i know alot of players lurk these boards) 
Im going with Curry in a huge upset over SC. 

Curry's got something to prove, they have a solid run defense and an offense that is peaking at the right time.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 12, 2006, 08:17:14 PM
Don't you all always pick Curry, and don't they always lose? There's no basis to such a pick until they prove they can come anywhere near the other teams in the region. 

Not trying to incense anyone, but anyone outside this conference, while not overlooking you, know that Curry isn't there yet. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 12, 2006, 08:23:00 PM
Quote from: sickofBS on November 12, 2006, 08:13:10 PM
After watching Selection show and watching Curry getting some disrespect, (Pat's looking forward past the first round cuz SC is gonna walk over curry, he didnt say it bit it was there i saw it... Im not puttin down Pat, he's the man. just tellin it they way i saw it)
And reading the posts here, (because i know alot of players lurk these boards) 
Im going with Curry in a huge upset over SC. 

Curry's got something to prove, they have a solid run defense and an offense that is peaking at the right time.

Dude, Curry almost lost to Coast Guard on Saturday.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 12, 2006, 08:24:08 PM
And Coast Guard's backup quarterback.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jimdeg on November 12, 2006, 08:58:37 PM
From what i read about and caught on the radio Curry didn't so much win the game. Coast Guard pretty much lost it. 4 fumbles and three times in the red zone with out a score and still only a 6 point difference. Thats not exactly a monumental win. And unless I'm mistaken springfield still runs the option better than any team in the NE. I don't think the NEFC is going to get it's first win this weekend.  It's football though and I've seen and played in some miracles before. Good luck to both teams
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 12, 2006, 09:01:49 PM
Quote from: Jimdeg on November 12, 2006, 08:58:37 PM
From what i read about and caught on the radio Curry didn't so much win the game. Coast Guard pretty much lost it. 4 fumbles and three times in the red zone with out a score and still only a 6 point difference. Thats not exactly a monumental win. And unless I'm mistaken springfield still runs the option better than any team in the NE. I don't think the NEFC is going to get it's first win this weekend.  It's football though and I've seen and played in some miracles before. Good luck to both teams

I think it's almost extremely safe to say that SC runs the option better than anyone in the country.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Senor RedTackle on November 12, 2006, 10:29:38 PM
Quote from: The Truth 00 on November 12, 2006, 07:41:38 PM
oh yea, what kind of bonus is that??  curry will score some points but they aren't ready for springfield. get real nefc fans. they also have to play at springfield on the concrete turf against arguably the best player in all of d3. stop being so naive people.

I remember this same argument when RPI rolled into Thugville, MA and played the #1 Pride in the East Region...of course, lowly RPI didn't have a shot against this offensive Juggernaut.

...on the way to the national semi's, RPI managed a victory against said Pride

Sorry to be so 'naive' ...although I don't think Curry has a chance in this one
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 12, 2006, 10:38:18 PM
That game is still a puzzler -- why playing at home in a stiff wind didn't result in a Springfield win is beyond me.

Not to look down on RPI. It was hardly the strangest weather they won in in that postseason. :)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: The Truth 00 on November 13, 2006, 12:42:24 AM
i was at that rpi game in 03. the kid cochran torched the sc secondary to the tune of 200+ yards or something. however, you can't compare curry with rpi here. rpi played in a legit conference that got them ready to play that game against sc. no offense, but i don't think curry sees good enough comp. in the nefc to prepare them for the speed of springfield. and  also, they better come up with some kind of plan to contain sharpe because i'm looking at at least 200 rush yards and 3 tds from him alone this week.

redtackle, springfield didn't underestimate you in 03. they knew that vaunted offense with shotgun 5 wide, no huddle was coming and they didn't stop it. also, the defensive coaches for rpi had a good game plan together to try and keep the option in check.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on November 13, 2006, 10:36:50 AM
I just heard that curry is playing Springfield. First of all congrats to both teams they are to very solid programs...but let me tell u I have seen both teams play this season
and  Springfield should put a spanking on the Colonels. The caliber of play is head and shoulders over the NEFC. You never know but if Curry happened to beat Springfield it would be a shocker... I look forward to seeing the game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on November 13, 2006, 11:14:12 AM
Here's my logic for picking Curry to beat SC. 

1. I think SC will have a tough time running inside the tackles without Curry changing much of what they do.  Now you're down trying to scheme to stop a double option rather then a triple.  (Still not easy but easier) 
2. Curry has good perimeter speed to match up with SC and physical corners.
3. Curry will not be intimidated by the playing the Pride.
4. Curry will be able to score and score quickly to match SC.
5.  I think Curry started to celebrate with 12 minutes to go in the CC game.  At that point it was over.  Cuddo's to CC for fighting all the way to the end.  (By the way turnovers are a part of the game and great defenses create them) You can't say if...when trying to make a point!!!! Like if CC didn't turnover the ball 4 times.... What did Curry do to create them?
6.  SC like Union has always found a way to lose one late in the season that, on paper, they shouldn't have.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: JQV on November 13, 2006, 11:16:56 AM
When was the last time a NEFC team won a playoff game?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: The Truth 00 on November 13, 2006, 11:18:39 AM
d3 fan, they play in the worst conference in america. you think that's going to prepare them for springfield. if curry runs a 4-3 or 4-4 to defend the sc option, they will get killed. trust me on this. your inside the tackles argument is weak. can they stop the midline? can they defend outside veer? they can run anything out of any formation. if i were curry, i would hope to outscore them and make them punt once or twice...and that could be a stretch. theres no one in the nefc with the game speed of sharpe. he will run around your tacklers.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: John McGraw on November 13, 2006, 11:19:57 AM
Quote from: D3 Fan on November 13, 2006, 11:14:12 AM
Here's my logic for picking Curry to beat SC. 

1. I think SC will have a tough time running inside the tackles without Curry changing much of what they do.  Now you're down trying to scheme to stop a double option rather then a triple.  (Still not easy but easier) 
2. Curry has good perimeter speed to match up with SC and physical corners.
3. Curry will not be intimidated by the playing the Pride.
4. Curry will be able to score and score quickly to match SC.
5.  I think Curry started to celebrate with 12 minutes to go in the CC game.  At that point it was over.  Cuddo's to CC for fighting all the way to the end.  (By the way turnovers are a part of the game and great defenses create them) You can't say if...when trying to make a point!!!! Like if CC didn't turnover the ball 4 times.... What did Curry do to create them?
6.  SC like Union has always found a way to lose one late in the season that, on paper, they shouldn't have.


Uhhh, who's CC? Didn't Curry play Coast Guard (CG)?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on November 13, 2006, 11:54:46 AM
Truth, the midline and veer are considered tackle to tackle plays.  Like I said, I think Curry doesn't need to do anything different then they already do to stop those types of plays...They will have to scheme to defend the qb and pitch. 

Unless you played the better teams in the NEFC you can not comment on the speed existing in the league.

I'm not trying to take anything away from SC just voicing my opinion.  I didn't say it would be easy but Curry has a chance especially since they've played teams at that level over the past few years. 

Great point JM!!! CG if it makes you happy.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: The Truth 00 on November 13, 2006, 12:18:51 PM
d3 fan, you said they would have trouble running inside the tackles....i disagree. they didn't have many problems this year running between them.

i've seen every team in the nefc play and the speed isn't there, athleticism isn't there, and the strength isn't there...although curry is the most athletic i've seen from the conference.  whats steve nelson up to these days?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on November 13, 2006, 12:36:46 PM
Congrats to Curry on the win sat.  Though I will be pulling for Curry to win, I have to give the advantage to Springfield.  Contrary to the truths beliefs, I think Curry has the team speed and athleticism, just not the size and strength to matach SC offensive line.  There are other things that SC are also known for that give them distinct advantage.. and its not that they run the option....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on November 13, 2006, 12:39:11 PM
Any word on ECAC selections today?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bearyear on November 13, 2006, 01:09:16 PM
yeah who is most likely to recieve the bids?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Daddio on November 13, 2006, 01:50:26 PM
Here is my info:

#4 Bridgewater is at #3 Coast Guard
#5 UR at #2 AU
#6 RPI at #1 Cortland
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on November 13, 2006, 02:22:30 PM
Quote from: RockRB11 on November 13, 2006, 12:36:46 PM
There are other things that SC are also known for that give them distinct advantage.. and its not that they run the option....


What is it?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: The Truth 00 on November 13, 2006, 03:29:09 PM
they are known for their phys. ed programs
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fball23 on November 13, 2006, 06:09:35 PM
Quote from: RockRB11 on November 13, 2006, 12:36:46 PM
Congrats to Curry on the win sat.  Though I will be pulling for Curry to win, I have to give the advantage to Springfield.  Contrary to the truths beliefs, I think Curry has the team speed and athleticism, just not the size and strength to matach SC offensive line.  There are other things that SC are also known for that give them distinct advantage.. and its not that they run the option....



I dont really understand this post....Curry does not have the size and strength to match Springfield up front? I have seen both Curry and Springfield play this year and I dont think that will be an issue for Curry at all. Curry might have the best D tackles in the leauge with Tom Pinto and number 90 inside. I think that Curry will be able to take the fullback out of the game and if they can contain the option they will have a chance at this one. My pick Curry 35 Springfield 28.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 13, 2006, 06:11:20 PM
Quote from: d3fball23 on November 13, 2006, 06:09:35 PM
Quote from: RockRB11 on November 13, 2006, 12:36:46 PM
Congrats to Curry on the win sat.  Though I will be pulling for Curry to win, I have to give the advantage to Springfield.  Contrary to the truths beliefs, I think Curry has the team speed and athleticism, just not the size and strength to matach SC offensive line.  There are other things that SC are also known for that give them distinct advantage.. and its not that they run the option....



I dont really understand this post....Curry does not have the size and strength to match Springfield up front? I have seen both Curry and Springfield play this year and I dont think that will be an issue for Curry at all. Curry might have the best D tackles in the leauge with Tom Pinto and number 90 inside. I think that Curry will be able to take the fullback out of the game and if they can contain the option they will have a chance at this one. My pick Curry 35 Springfield 28.

Dude, tell your son at Curry good luck.  But, let him know his pops is a little bit too much of a super fan.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 13, 2006, 06:20:25 PM
Those Springfield kids were in the weightroom for 5 years before Curry kids even realized that the "clean and jerk" wasnt something to be ashamed of.  I would bet money that the sc kids are stronger up front.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on November 13, 2006, 07:30:53 PM
Curry had one heck of a season... Their defense was  great and shut down most teams in the NEFC. I think the offense improved each week as the season progressed. That is why they are undefeated as well as the existing coaching staff that took over after Nellie. Congrats Coach Bandini.
But let me tell you I have seen both teams play several times this year and the competition  that Springfield plays is far superior. For Springfield to have the season they had against the New York teams and others I expect that Curry will be in a big mismatch.I would love to see a good game with Curry the victor...but I don't think so..... prediction.......42-12
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fan of d3 on November 13, 2006, 07:43:06 PM
The running backs that springfield faced this year:

Arcidiocano, Union-All American
Robinson, Fisher-All AMerican
Lynch, Brockport-Leading rusher in the country (at the time)
Donovan, Ithaca-solid running back

The running backs for curry dont even come close to the ones I just mentioned and SC has beaten all but one of those teams (IC) So with a slower and smaller group of backs, a smaller O line, a less than stellar playbook with straight power and toss (which is what brockport ran to the tune of 66 yards total), where do they match up better with SC?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: superman57 on November 13, 2006, 07:50:52 PM
you didn't stop robinson or the guy from union you just out score d them, giving up 68 pointd in 2 games is not somethign to be proud of
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 13, 2006, 07:52:57 PM
"you didn't stop robinson or the guy from union you just out score d them, giving up 68 pointd in 2 games is not somethign to be proud of"

enough said....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fan of d3 on November 13, 2006, 07:59:34 PM
Dude stop following me.....

where oh WHERE in that post did it say that springfield stopped them?!  I said SC has beaten all but one of those teams, meaning SC can score points with anyone INCLUDING curry...  Get off Robinsons nuts, you are some JV player from fisher who just goes on here to start problems.. giving up 68 points in two games is nothing to be proud of, but hey neither is giving up 55 in one.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: superman57 on November 13, 2006, 08:03:47 PM
no, actually I'm an alumni, no I'm not following you just bored, next your still an idiot, last if you had an all-american running back you'd cheer for him too, second I knew him at school at he was a quality guy, a cheer for the good guys
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fan of d3 on November 13, 2006, 08:07:19 PM
Well, Sc will have an All American QB who would run circles around "robbie"...CHeer all you would like, I cant wait to see SC run right down Fishers D again, and again, and again...but please, leave that on the E8 board, im trying to talk about curry, thanks.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fan of d3 on November 13, 2006, 08:08:46 PM
and there goes my karma because of you.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: superman57 on November 13, 2006, 08:12:21 PM
you sound like a 7 year old congrats
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fan of d3 on November 13, 2006, 08:16:11 PM
Do you really think I was serious about the Karma comment...gimme a break.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on November 13, 2006, 08:24:54 PM
Superman and fan of D3, did you guys come here to fight about the LL and E8 or talk about the Curry/SC game?  I'm just a little confused by all the banter....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fan of d3 on November 13, 2006, 08:26:28 PM
Thank you D3 fan...If you go back a page I came in here to talk about the upcoming game but my little shadow got me sidetracked...

Whats your take on the game this weekend.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: superman57 on November 13, 2006, 08:28:41 PM
I made a comment that he should not praise springfields defense because it's not really there and I do think Curry has a slight chance IF they can stop the option
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fan of d3 on November 13, 2006, 08:31:01 PM
Alright, once again the comment had no reference to springfields defense, at all, anywhere, at all, anywhere...at all. It was to takl about how They can score points with any team.

So D3 Fan, have you seen both teams play? what do you think.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Tags on November 13, 2006, 08:54:47 PM
Quote from: The Truth 00 on November 13, 2006, 03:29:09 PM
they are known for their phys. ed programs

Now that's funny
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on November 13, 2006, 09:25:43 PM
As much as I would LIKE to see an NEFC team actually win a game in the NCAAs I just don't see it happening this year. Springfield is having a great year this year and even though Curry ran through the NEFC I think the conference was way down this year. I think it'll be the same story for the NEFC, maybe next year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 13, 2006, 10:17:07 PM
Quote from: Superman57 on November 13, 2006, 08:03:47 PM
no, actually I'm an alumni, no I'm not following you just bored, next your still an idiot, last if you had an all-american running back you'd cheer for him too, second I knew him at school at he was a quality guy, a cheer for the good guys

Alumnus is singular. Alumni is plural. :)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 13, 2006, 10:19:12 PM
Come on Pat, its not like he spelled Saturday wrong or something.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: maxpower on November 13, 2006, 10:54:31 PM
All Fisher guys are alumnae anyway.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: maxpower on November 13, 2006, 10:55:51 PM
Quote from: Lord Johathan "The Bloody" Preston Utah XVI Prince of Tompkins on November 13, 2006, 10:19:12 PM
Come on Pat, its not like he spelled Saturday wrong or something.


Pat is like the most prolific lurker there is.... you can say ten things you just KNOW will get a response and nothing.... but then BAM he pops up when you least expect it to correct your grammar and usage, or just tell you to check the FAQs. You never know where the next PC sighting will be....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 14, 2006, 01:03:05 AM
Quote from: maxpower on November 13, 2006, 10:55:51 PM
Quote from: Lord Johathan "The Bloody" Preston Utah XVI Prince of Tompkins on November 13, 2006, 10:19:12 PM
Come on Pat, its not like he spelled Saturday wrong or something.


Pat is like the most prolific lurker there is.... you can say ten things you just KNOW will get a response and nothing.... but then BAM he pops up when you least expect it to correct your grammar and usage, or just tell you to check the FAQs. You never know where the next PC sighting will be....

Well, as moderator I pretty much HAVE to read everything ... and yeah, I often comment. Though it's actually very unlikely to be grammar. It's more likely to be to point out that someone can answer their own question by looking on the site, yes.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fells on November 14, 2006, 06:43:32 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 13, 2006, 10:17:07 PM
Quote from: Superman57 on November 13, 2006, 08:03:47 PM
no, actually I'm an alumni, no I'm not following you just bored, next your still an idiot, last if you had an all-american running back you'd cheer for him too, second I knew him at school at he was a quality guy, a cheer for the good guys

Alumnus is singular. Alumni is plural. :)

It's funny, I am on the board of directors for my college alumni association, and we had this debate during one of our meetings. We went back and forth, back and forth about what was proper. We finally ended up with "Alumni"(Which I knew was correct), but I kid you not, the discussion went on for about an hour!!! I alternated between banging my head on the desk and napping because it was driving me loco!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on November 14, 2006, 08:28:35 AM
Lets just lay this to rest... Most of us posting here would love to see an NEFC team advance in the playoffs, and this year it happens to be Curry's shot again. But lets get serious here. Unless Curry plays flawless (not like last week) and SC puts the ball on the ground all day, then I dont think they have a shot.  Dont get me wrong, I played in the NEFC, I would want nothing but for the league to shine, but its not going to happen this year.  SC is just a better program. Their team is just all around bigger and stronger. Curry has a good team... Fast, athletic, but not enough across the board to hang with SC.

I expect CC to put up some points, but in the end:

SC 49
CC 21
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 14, 2006, 08:42:55 AM
Gro comes to curry's defense??

how soon we forget... in '05 Curry led Del Val in the 3rd quarter and was only down by 1 score (30-22) in the 4th before DV sealed it. Curry's playoff curse, in Gro's opinion, is that they haven't put together a complete 4 quarter performance yet.

How does that translate to 06 vs Springfield? It doesn't. But there are 2 ways to beat SC.

Win in a shootout (RPI '03)
Shut down the option (Ithaca this year)

Gro still thinks SC is going to win, but its not a given.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on November 14, 2006, 03:51:48 PM
Gro I would agree with some of what you said.  I also believe that SC has the stronger team, plays in a stronger league and has the stronger football tradition.  I just think Curry's D has a chance to slow them down and the offense will be able to score.  You know what's coming with SC (gimmick offense) and all.  By the way that gimmick comment was the worst non football sense comment I've seen in a long time.

Going back a few days to respond to Nobleman Lewis's comments, I'm curious as to how hard you want these coaches to coach and recruit?  When you were a freshman, say 4-5 years ago, how many full time coaches were in the NEFC?  BSC, MIT, Curry, EC, Nichols, Maine and Mass Maritime.  I agree that if you were talented enough that these schools should have contacted you but the part time staff's???  Isn't it safe to say that maybe you just got missed (which happens at every level)?  The 75% of the other schools were or are part time.....This means that they rely on current players and high school coaches to help them recruit.  I don't know about you but when you work a job all day long then get into your football office around 3-4pm, you are left behind in the recruiting game.  These part time coaches make calls, after calls, after calls.  They don't have the time to send out letters during the season but do their best to get in touch with players.   Isn't it better to say you were missed then they don't work hard enough...In regards to administration, I refer back to one of previous posts, they are happy with the way things are.

By the way Pat, I spoke to a coach friend of mine who is at a State school.  I asked him if administration thinks that the football program is needed to bring in students.   That the 80-100 kids brought in each year makes a difference.  He told me that many of the administration feel that these kids would come regardless of football.  Take it for what it's worth. Tough to excel when that's your support.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 14, 2006, 04:20:14 PM
Quote from: D3 Fan on November 14, 2006, 03:51:48 PM
Gro I would agree with some of what you said.  I also believe that SC has the stronger team, plays in a stronger league and has the stronger football tradition.  I just think Curry's D has a chance to slow them down and the offense will be able to score.  You know what's coming with SC (gimmick offense) and all.  By the way that gimmick comment was the worst non football sense comment I've seen in a long time.

Going back a few days to respond to Nobleman Lewis's comments, I'm curious as to how hard you want these coaches to coach and recruit?  When you were a freshman, say 4-5 years ago, how many full time coaches were in the NEFC?  BSC, MIT, Curry, EC, Nichols, Maine and Mass Maritime.  I agree that if you were talented enough that these schools should have contacted you but the part time staff's???  Isn't it safe to say that maybe you just got missed (which happens at every level)?  The 75% of the other schools were or are part time.....This means that they rely on current players and high school coaches to help them recruit.  I don't know about you but when you work a job all day long then get into your football office around 3-4pm, you are left behind in the recruiting game.  These part time coaches make calls, after calls, after calls.  They don't have the time to send out letters during the season but do their best to get in touch with players.   Isn't it better to say you were missed then they don't work hard enough...In regards to administration, I refer back to one of previous posts, they are happy with the way things are.

By the way Pat, I spoke to a coach friend of mine who is at a State school.  I asked him if administration thinks that the football program is needed to bring in students.   That the 80-100 kids brought in each year makes a difference.  He told me that many of the administration feel that these kids would come regardless of football.  Take it for what it's worth. Tough to excel when that's your support.....


D3 fan dont make excuses for these part time coaches.  It would take 10 hours of your season to read the Boston Globe or Herald, find the names of the top scorers, passers, rushers etc, and write form letters to those high schools.  Im not saying its easy, but it can be done with a little effort.  And the majority of the NEFC coaches werent bad coaches.  They knew what they were doing. 

But you are right about your last part.  Id say about half of NEFC state school kids go to the school first and it just so happens that that school has a football team and they end up playing.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: The Truth 00 on November 14, 2006, 05:50:17 PM
d3 fan - what are you talking about with the gimmick offense part? is that directed towards me?  i'm a little confused here.  my defense here would be that if its a gimmick offense, you don't know what's coming. obviously, there are some gimmick plays in any offense (reverses, flea-flickers, etc) but if you know sc is going to run the ball, how is it tricky?  thats what i'm getting at with the gimmick aspect.  i guess pretty much anything that isn't an I-formation with a balance of run and pass could be considered gimmicky, if we really want to get technical. what about the spread?  there's variations of the spread but would that be considered a gimmick?  hell, everyone is going to it now.  who knows, the I could become almost extinct (kinda like the option)  maybe we are just looking at things a little differently but mean the same thing in the end?? 

now, in regards to the part-time coaches thing....going through the initial process of contacting the high school coaches shouldn't be that hard. all they need to do, like King Utah said, is to read the globe at the end of the season, or even find a season preview before the season starts. the letters should be easy to pump out, the phone calls just require time. set up recruiting days every couple of saturdays in the winter time and make it work. work through admissions, coordinate overnight visits, it should work. as far as the attending college thing, i think most kids choose the school and then if football is there, it works out, especially in the nefc. that's probably another reason the conference isn't where the LL's and e8's are in terms of competition combined with the lack of a recruiting budget.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fan of d3 on November 14, 2006, 07:29:42 PM
My theory on recruiting is you do not need to have the players with the best stats, numbers etc.  Finding the kids at the top of the lists in the Globe might do you no good. If you are looking to build a program from the bottom up then yeah I guess thats one way to start.  My theory is your team needs to have some kind of system and you need to find the players to fit that system.  If you have a kid who works hard you can turn him into a pretty decent player. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on November 14, 2006, 09:26:43 PM
LJ, Fan of D3, and truth, all I can say it's easier sitting here talking about recruiting then living it as a part time guy.  Think what you will....

Truth I don't think that comment about gimmick offense was directed at you.  I went back to check but couldn't find it in the NEFC board.  I must have read it in another room.  Sorry for the insinuation....

Quotei think most kids choose the school and then if football is there, it works out, especially in the nefc. that's probably another reason the conference isn't where the LL's and e8's are in terms of competition combined with the lack of a recruiting budget.

Truth I disagree. At least in reference to the top schools in the NEFC!!!  Look at Westfield, UMD, and WSC.  Although they have struggled over the last couple of years they have consistently been the teams to beat.  Not to leave out FSU over the last 2 or 3.  You can not win consistently in any league with a majority of kids who just show up..... 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Tags on November 14, 2006, 09:42:57 PM
Gents-

Is there a prerequisite to have a minimum of 4 paragraphs per post on this board?

That's some serious writing.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on November 14, 2006, 10:33:55 PM
hahahahaha, you win Tag.   :)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on November 15, 2006, 08:30:53 AM
I tend to agree with most of what you all are stating.  But when it comes to kids that have the talent and are serious about playing at the next level, whether it be DIII or not, they'll be recruited and look into schools with winning tradition.  As a top dIII prospect that wants to go to school in the northeast, your not looking at westfeild state, umd, etc.. and vise versa.  Your looking into Rowan, SC, a bunch of upstate ny schools.... Schools that have a winning tradition and a well established program.  The athletic history of the school and the fact that they're in the limelight each year is a big recruiting tool in itself before you even consider what a staff can do.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefan on November 15, 2006, 09:18:46 AM
Recruiting is a NOT as easy as some of you people think it is ...Also, if you are a part time coach... time is a huge factor..coaching in college is A YEAR ROUND part time job and people have to understand that... One NEFC coach who has been there for over 14 years(part time coach) probably meets at least 150-200 kids a year (actual "players" from their high school programs) and gives a tour for each recruit. They take an average of probably One and half hours (not to mention the "pitch" part of it on the phone)... On top of it some of the schools have requirements for admissions that numerous recruits do not meet and forget to mention in the process and then the transcript shows up... and the recruits EXPECT the coach to be able to help.... Some schools OVER RECRUIT... then some kids play all kinds of games with the coaches... Recruiting is NOT WHAT some of you think it is ... IT IS DIFFICULT FOR ANY COACH but even harder for a part time coach
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 15, 2006, 09:21:28 AM
Quote from: nefan on November 15, 2006, 09:18:46 AM
Recruiting is a NOT as easy as some of you people think it is ...Also, if you are a part time coach... time is a huge factor..coaching in college is A YEAR ROUND part time job and people have to understand that... One NEFC coach who has been there for over 14 years(part time coach) probably meets at least 150-200 kids a year (actual "players" from their high school programs) and gives a tour for each recruit. They take an average of probably One and half hours (not to mention the "pitch" part of it on the phone)... On top of it some of the schools have requirements for admissions that numerous recruits do not meet and forget to mention in the process and then the transcript shows up... and the recruits EXPECT the coach to be able to help.... Some schools OVER RECRUIT... then some kids play all kinds of games with the coaches... Recruiting is NOT WHAT some of you think it is ... IT IS DIFFICULT FOR ANY COACH but even harder for a part time coach


Good point, but not all NEFC coaches  do that....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fscparent on November 15, 2006, 09:54:10 AM
I have been watching my son, nephews, and sons of friends play  DIII football off and on for the last 10 years including nefc games and other teams including WPI, Springfield etc..  There isn't a better way to spend a fall Saturday then watching a DIII game.  The nefc is not as strong a league as the other DIII leagues, but that does not mean is isn't good football. Here is an example of the difference between the leagues.   A couple of years ago when FSC was in the ecac playoffs vs Springfield coach Haverty told me they met the SC coaches before the game to go over some pregame items.  The SC coach showed Haverty the coaches both and said there was room for about 8 coaches, Haverty looked at the SC coach and said "I do not have 8 coaches on my staff never mind 8 in the both".

I would love Curry to win but I think SC wins this one.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: GOATReggieBush5 on November 15, 2006, 03:54:05 PM
whats the deal with the nefc's all conference team selections and their league award winners because if you go to Bridgewaters site they are claming that Siringano won Bogan Defensive Player of the year and that their players were named to the Bogan All Conference Team.  If this is the case it seems that the league has changed its award system and if thats the case how come its been two days since the awards have been anounced yet the conference has not put anything on their website about this?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: sickofBS on November 15, 2006, 09:16:35 PM
I guess they split the all confrence into Boyd and Bogan All-Conf. picks
so theres two sets of AC picks
2 D player of the years
2 O players of the year
ect. 1 from each half of the confrence
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on November 15, 2006, 09:25:50 PM
RockRB11, I agree that many of the better recruits are drawn to those schools with the history and tradition.  That's part of the problem for the NEFC schools but that is also the recruiting game.  Nefan is right on the mark and John Utah I can't agree more. That, right there is why the NEFC as a league struggles on the national level.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 15, 2006, 09:33:27 PM
What could be done at many NEFC schools is what Springfield does.  SC has 3 full time coaches and probably 6-10 graduate assistants.  These 6-10 assistants work their asses off because their school is getting paid for and its basically a full time job.  In return, those assistants get 2 years of coaching experience at a good d3 program, and a  masters degree in good fields from a good college.  The players at Springfield now get 9-15 coaches that care about the team and sport. 

NEFC teams (ma state schools anyway) should do the same.  Search out and hire 1-3 full time coaches that can teach at those schools as well (most have decent education programs).  Then get a couple grad assistants to do the rest of the needed work.  The only problem is that some of those schools still dont have graduate programs, but I think it could work if the salaries were bumped up a bit.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fan of d3 on November 15, 2006, 10:47:02 PM
I believe SC has close to 15 GA's this year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on November 16, 2006, 09:03:17 AM
Nice to see a little bit of respect for Curry from "Around the Nation":

"In a bracket where the top six are pretty even, No. 7 seed Curry is overlooked. We hardly ever mention the Colonels, who just keep winning (40-5 since 2003). They were competitive against Delaware Valley in last year's playoffs, leading 14-7 midway through the third quarter of a 37-22 loss. I'm not sure Springfield is ripe for upset, but Curry can play defense. It's certainly possible that a disciplined, sure-tackling group can slow down an option attack."
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on November 16, 2006, 12:24:47 PM
Anyone know where Nelson went after he left Curry?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: sickofBS on November 16, 2006, 01:19:14 PM
I think Nellie is a sales rep for a computer company out of Rhode island.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 17, 2006, 07:32:24 PM
I agree it is nice to see Curry as the NEFC representative in the NCAA get some positive press, but that won't win the game for them.  SC 35 Curry 28.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on November 18, 2006, 02:09:04 PM
OK, I wasn't even close.   Maybe next year for the NEFC!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on November 18, 2006, 05:51:35 PM
As expected, Chris Sharpe put on a clinic...that kid has some moves for a small qb. I thought Curry would be able to put up more points.  They hung in tight in the first quarter forcing SC to punt, but it was downhill from there as CC was forced to the passing game... interception after interception. Congrats to both teams, and good luck to SC next week against sjfc.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on November 20, 2006, 10:24:25 AM
Link to the NEFC All Division teams  http://www.newenglandfootballconference.com/images/2006_NEFC_ALL-Conference.pdf (http://www.newenglandfootballconference.com/images/2006_NEFC_ALL-Conference.pdf)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lighter on November 20, 2006, 02:09:20 PM
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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lighter on November 20, 2006, 03:04:15 PM
Ouetion. Being from the Mid-West I was wondering how The Coast Guard Academy can be part of D-3 since they give 4 year scholarships (although I realize they are for all students) still you can recruit players you want and they fall under the full scholarship program. It seems to be a great advantage that other schools don't have. Just curious.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 20, 2006, 03:13:51 PM
since you have to serve 4 years after graduation that might get around calling it a scholarship. The other service academies do the same thing, but given the overall size of CGA (and the physical requirements of CGA cadets) maybe they choose to be in D3.  Just speculating here.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lighter on November 20, 2006, 03:23:55 PM
But the other academies are D-1AA or D-1A which allow scholarships
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2006, 04:09:30 PM
Quote from: lighter on November 20, 2006, 03:04:15 PM
Ouetion. Being from the Mid-West I was wondering how The Coast Guard Academy can be part of D-3 since they give 4 year scholarships (although I realize they are for all students) still you can recruit players you want and they fall under the full scholarship program. It seems to be a great advantage that other schools don't have. Just curious.

You didn't like the e-mail response I sent?

The basic tenet of Division III philosophy is that a school may not provide any benefit to a student-athlete that it does not provide to the student body as a whole.

The U.S. Coast Guard Academy provides the same scholarship benefit to the student body as a whole. Student-athletes are not treated any differently based on their athletic ability, therefore it is well within the Division III rules.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lighter on November 20, 2006, 06:20:03 PM

Sorry Pat, Did not catch your e-mail before my post. Thanks for explaination of the situation
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 20, 2006, 06:41:58 PM
Quote from: 'gro on November 20, 2006, 03:13:51 PM
since you have to serve 4 years after graduation that might get around calling it a scholarship. The other service academies do the same thing, but given the overall size of CGA (and the physical requirements of CGA cadets) maybe they choose to be in D3.  Just speculating here.

It might actually be 5 years?  And thats one of the toughest schools to get into in the country, football player or not.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on November 21, 2006, 12:54:08 AM
for the speculation cga is "the" hardest school to get into the country but that has nothing to do with sports wise, bsc proved how much better they really were since there offense came around....overall the cga has higher academic standards which keeps them in a lower divison and i think they pride themselves on that...cuz their academics are more important then their athelics...it makes sense
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Tags on November 21, 2006, 12:57:43 AM
Quote from: Pimpingold on November 21, 2006, 12:54:08 AM
for the speculation cga is "the" hardest school to get into the country but that has nothing to do with sports wise, bsc proved how much better they really were since there offense came around....overall the cga has higher academic standards which keeps them in a lower divison and i think they pride themselves on that...cuz their academics are more important then their athelics...it makes sense

I'd challenge that statement. Unless we're talking in relevancy to DIII, I would say the Naval Academy is the hardest PG.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: The Truth 00 on November 21, 2006, 12:59:41 AM
wow, curry really got it handed to them this past weekend. it still baffles me that some of these teams think they can play springfield tough, like the endicotts, fitchburgs, currys, etc.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan06 on November 21, 2006, 07:14:10 AM
I have not seen it anywhere that Curry, Fitchburg and Endicott have stated the can play "tough" with Springfield.

There is no doubt that Springfield is the best team in New England this year. They can beat anyone in the area and are more than competitive out of New England as well as their conference record indicates.

I think this past season only saw Endicott and CGA play non-NEFC opponents. UMD has challeneged themselves out of conference in the past and I think Salve used to play West Conn and Springfield not so long ago.

I know this has been said over and over again, until NEFC teams get serious and ventire outside the conference to play teams from the Empire Eight, Liberty League, NJAC, etc they can continue to resign themselves to being an "also-ran" in NCAA play.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on November 21, 2006, 07:52:46 AM
Why did the NEFC give out all conference honors to each side this year? (Bogan/Boyd)  This is just like the preseason all americans, where if you start for a team, you have a 75% chance of making it.  Way too many.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 21, 2006, 11:59:49 AM
Could be because the league expanded. Most conferences are around the size of one of your divisions.

Just for the record, though, WE only named 50 people to our preseason All-American team. That other group's preseason team was just a blatant attempt to get publicity.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mel on November 21, 2006, 02:08:08 PM
CGA Facts.

925 cadets currently enrolled.
27% attrition rate of each incomming class.
33 % female. Highest of all nations service academies.
Average SAT of fall 06 freshman class is 1320.
2001 Washington Post and Princeton Review had CGA as nations lowest acceptance rate of completed applications, 4%.
5 year post grad commitment in US Coast Guard, same as Army, Navy and Air Force.
March with entire corp of cadets each friday in the fall, no execptions. Morning inspections on Saturdays before many games. Like entire corp.
Wake up is at 0545 every day except Sundays 0800.
DIII in every sense of the word.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: The Truth 00 on November 21, 2006, 02:39:18 PM
hey d3fan06, it doesn't have to be "stated" here on the board, although a few people picked curry on here last week. all of those teams think it though, while they're on the field or while their coaches are recruiting.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on November 21, 2006, 02:47:32 PM
I should of been more specific.  It was the Don Hansen Football Gazette that named an absurd number of preseason all americans.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on November 21, 2006, 02:54:49 PM
No kidding they think it on the field... As a competitive player/team you go into any game in any sport with the intentions of winning.  If you dont think you can win, then you lost before you even step on the field.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 21, 2006, 04:09:48 PM
Quote from: RockRB11 on November 21, 2006, 02:54:49 PM
No kidding they think it on the field... As a competitive player/team you go into any game in any sport with the intentions of winning.  If you dont think you can win, then you lost before you even step on the field.

One time, I played this kid in Tiger Woods on Gamecube, and I figured I was screwed.  If there were odds against me, I would have taken them.  But something happened that day.  I got a whole in 1 on the 13th, and that grew my confidence and propelled me to victory.  Therefore, if you think you will lose, sometimes, you win...

Maybe the NEFC teams should start figuring they'll lose in the playoffs, and maybe, in like 2054, they'll win one?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: The Truth 00 on November 21, 2006, 04:15:17 PM
yea, i think thats right on lewdogg
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 21, 2006, 04:34:15 PM
LD, gro used to whup your arse in NFL blitz and Goldeneye... what what?

you can take your response to the LL board.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on November 22, 2006, 08:11:49 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 21, 2006, 04:09:48 PM
Quote from: RockRB11 on November 21, 2006, 02:54:49 PM
No kidding they think it on the field... As a competitive player/team you go into any game in any sport with the intentions of winning.  If you dont think you can win, then you lost before you even step on the field.

One time, I played this kid in Tiger Woods on Gamecube, and I figured I was screwed.  If there were odds against me, I would have taken them.  But something happened that day.  I got a whole in 1 on the 13th, and that grew my confidence and propelled me to victory.  Therefore, if you think you will lose, sometimes, you win...

Maybe the NEFC teams should start figuring they'll lose in the playoffs, and maybe, in like 2054, they'll win one?

Yea great comparison.  Honestly, I can really see where you're comnig from and how big of a moron you are.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 23, 2006, 03:21:17 PM
Quote from: RockRB11 on November 22, 2006, 08:11:49 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 21, 2006, 04:09:48 PM
Quote from: RockRB11 on November 21, 2006, 02:54:49 PM
No kidding they think it on the field... As a competitive player/team you go into any game in any sport with the intentions of winning.  If you dont think you can win, then you lost before you even step on the field.

One time, I played this kid in Tiger Woods on Gamecube, and I figured I was screwed.  If there were odds against me, I would have taken them.  But something happened that day.  I got a whole in 1 on the 13th, and that grew my confidence and propelled me to victory.  Therefore, if you think you will lose, sometimes, you win...

Maybe the NEFC teams should start figuring they'll lose in the playoffs, and maybe, in like 2054, they'll win one?

Yea great comparison.  Honestly, I can really see where you're comnig from and how big of a moron you are.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bearyear on November 24, 2006, 12:15:23 PM
first of all i suck at tiger woods, i get my ass kicked in that game, but if you were to mention a lil perfect dark im sure i could take anyone in the country

second anyone have an idea on which teams are taking the biggest hits this year for loosing seniors?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: LUMAN80 on November 29, 2006, 05:15:02 PM
spend more time on tiger woods, that game is awesome esp when you can create your own player with grillz
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jimdeg on December 04, 2006, 01:04:42 AM
Quote from: lighter on November 20, 2006, 03:04:15 PM
Ouetion. Being from the Mid-West I was wondering how The Coast Guard Academy can be part of D-3 since they give 4 year scholarships (although I realize they are for all students) still you can recruit players you want and they fall under the full scholarship program. It seems to be a great advantage that other schools don't have. Just curious.
I'm a little late on this but just to clarify. Because CGA does not require a congressional appointment they have a completely merit based system of selecting cadets. Unlike the other academies everyone competes on an equal footing. The only thing that playing a sport will do for you is give you a few more "points" over a guy with the same credentials and no sports. I'd say it's actually a lot harder for CGA Coaches to recruit because there applicant have to have pretty high SAT/ACT scores or be extremely well rounded.
Lets face it us football players though we can be pretty intelligent we aren't known for being valedictorians that often.
CGA does get a few recruits into NAPS every year which is the navies prep school (and where most of there athletes go) But for the most part they have to find people that have the credentials required and the football ability in order to get them accepted to the swab class.
Not to say that there aren't some guys that get by, but it isn't easy.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 04, 2006, 01:08:40 AM
Quote from: LUMAN80 on November 29, 2006, 05:15:02 PM
spend more time on tiger woods, that game is awesome esp when you can create your own player with grillz

Has anyone else noticed that LUMAN's posts are either spam or completely irrelevant? 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on December 06, 2006, 10:23:40 AM
Sean Crowley to go to Aztec Bowl; http://www.afca.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9300&ATCLID=714178 (http://www.afca.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9300&ATCLID=714178)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mel on December 06, 2006, 10:05:35 PM
Crowley deserves it.  He is the best defensive player in the NEFC from both divisions.  I know he was recruited heavily by Richmond out of high school. He is a level up player and could compete in the A - 10.  He is possibly faster and more physical than any defensive player I personally saw in 2005 in the Liberty League. Good luck Sean, viva Mexico!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on December 12, 2006, 12:05:03 AM
Alfred's junior defensive lineman Don Miller, a 6-2 310-pounder from LeRoy, NY, who doubles as a short-yardage running back, was one of five juniors named to the 25-member 2006 AFCA Coaches' All-American Team and would thus be eligible for the Aztec Bowl but, AUPepBand understands, that would jeopardize Miller's eligibility.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on December 14, 2006, 01:12:33 PM
I'm curious, Sean Crowley is at The Aztec Bowl, but only made 3rd Team All-East Region........
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on December 17, 2006, 04:27:50 PM
Congrats to Crowley making Honorable Mention All-American, well deserved.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Sir Spiedie on December 24, 2006, 01:56:23 PM
Do any teams in the NEFC have any Florida kids on their roster? Is so, which teamhas the most? Merry Christmas!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on December 28, 2006, 09:27:02 AM
I checked the Curry roster and there is one player from FL, Claude "Max" Byrd.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on January 08, 2007, 02:44:42 PM
nice article about Sean Crowley's and the honrs he received this yearhttp://www.curry.edu/NR/rdonlyres/AEC7B464-1926-4BA9-B5C3-B83DACACBECF/3718/crowleyweb.pdf (http://www.curry.edu/NR/rdonlyres/AEC7B464-1926-4BA9-B5C3-B83DACACBECF/3718/crowleyweb.pdf)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on January 12, 2007, 11:43:30 AM
Curry has been solid for four years in its conference. Is there any thought at Curry of scheduling some of the more rugged Eastern programs in its non-conference tilts? Seems that is really the only way the Purple and White will raise the conference's image and improve its chances for success in NCAA playoffs.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Moose50 on February 02, 2007, 09:10:43 PM
All you Fitchburg Falcon fans, and those that are not, Coach Pat Haverty suddenly  resigned last night.  Word is that all the players were called in for a "team meeting" and the coach gave the news.  As a recent fan of Falcon football, Pat Haverty was a great guy!  Many on the inside and outside have said he had an agenda but all I could see was that he had the players and their well being in mind.     

I have no idea who will replace him (does anybody?) and who knows what next year will bring.  We all thought that last year would be the "down year" after the NEFC championship but who knows now.  My best to Pat and I wish him the best.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: coachzilly on February 13, 2007, 10:27:55 AM
Very sorry to hear the bad news, had a son that played for both Flynn and Haverty and found Coach Haverty to be a true professional and a great guy.  Everything that Fitchburg Football is, is due to his efforts and never ending work for Falcon Football!  I echo your sentiments!
Best wishes to him and his family!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CoachInTheSouth on February 14, 2007, 12:53:43 PM
coachzilly, you are right on track!  I played for both Coach Haverty and the other guy and let me tell you, the only reason Fitchburg has reached the level that it has is because of Coach Haverty.  This is a black period for all Fitchburg Alumni and current players, matter-of-fact this is a time for all alumni and players to speak up and find out what is going on with the people that make the decisions around there.  Do they really have the best intentions for their student athletes in mind? Or is it all about the money?  Why wasn't Haverty a full time coach anyway?  I guess he didn't win enough games.....oh yeah he won more games then all of the previous coaches combined...wierd 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on February 15, 2007, 11:24:20 AM
Well, this does seem to bring up the NEFC issue of full time vs. part time coaches.  What is the savings for the college/university?  Does it help to have someone full time on the staff or must it be the head coach?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CoachInTheSouth on February 19, 2007, 07:39:28 PM
What it would mean is that most likely the overpaid AD's would have to loose some of thier salary......compare this....AD's typically make somewhere near the 100,000 mark yet "partime coaches" (no such thing in all reality) make less then 20,000....I don't want to hear the argument that because its a state school all the coaches have to make the same...this is not a socialist economy, pay should be based on performance/time actually put into your program.  Just doesn't seem right
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on February 20, 2007, 04:26:51 PM
Quote from: CoachInTheSouth on February 19, 2007, 07:39:28 PM
What it would mean is that most likely the overpaid AD's would have to loose some of thier salary......compare this....AD's typically make somewhere near the 100,000 mark yet "partime coaches" (no such thing in all reality) make less then 20,000....I don't want to hear the argument that because its a state school all the coaches have to make the same...this is not a socialist economy, pay should be based on performance/time actually put into your program.  Just doesn't seem right

yea but you can argue that theres some poor alabama family that probably could legitimaly use some of the millions of dollars the state has paid their football coach.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on February 22, 2007, 01:32:05 PM
What are the paremters for off-season work-outs and spring practices for D3?  Who can participate?  How many days?  etc......
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on February 22, 2007, 04:46:11 PM
Quote from: ctgridironmom on February 22, 2007, 01:32:05 PM
What are the paremters for off-season work-outs and spring practices for D3?  Who can participate?  How many days?  etc......

Dont quote me on this but I think you can workout all you want to (without football related drills) and now d3 teams can have spring practices for a limited amounted time in the spring ( a few weeks?)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: labart96 on February 22, 2007, 07:16:28 PM
back at hobart we had both winter and spring weight training programs as well as winter (not kidding here) aerobics classes.

we didn't do any football related drills, but conditioning was a constant.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: chopperj on February 24, 2007, 05:56:20 PM
Still no coach at Fitchburg.  Anyone heard anything???
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AptosDad on February 27, 2007, 12:40:47 AM
Regarding the 'speculation' about the Coast Guard Academy and the alleged 'hardest' schools to get into, here's the list from the Princeton Review:

http://encarta.msn.com/college_article_tentoughestschools/the_most_competitive_admissions.html

To save time for anyone not interested in checking it out, the list, in order of difficulty, is: MIT, Yale, Princeton, Harvard, Olin, Caltech, Columbia, U Penn, Stanford, and Brown. 

Perhaps I missed some qualifying statement made by whoever first claimed CGA the hardest(not in top ten), but MIT is #1 and actually won a couple of football games this past season.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AptosDad on February 27, 2007, 12:48:34 AM
I found a second, very similar but not identical list.....still no CGA:

http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/departments/college/?article=10schoolsToughesttoGetInto07
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on February 27, 2007, 08:06:49 AM
west point and the naval academy aren't on the list, maybe because appointment to either school (and CGA) is much different than traditional colleges... but they are definetly hard to get into.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Col. Partridge on February 27, 2007, 08:14:38 AM
Those are nice little lists, but they don't explain their methodology and they obviously exclude the service academies, all of which would appear on that list if hardest=lowest % of applicants admitted.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on February 27, 2007, 11:19:27 AM
Although I am sure the academies are very difficult to get into and I know they have atypical requirements such as a letter of recommendation from an elected state official.  I think it is not reasonable to think that they have a lower % of accepted/applied students then the premier schools in the country, i.e., MIT, all of the Ivy Leagues, etc.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Col. Partridge on February 27, 2007, 11:49:49 AM
Believe what you want to believe.  I don't feel like paying for the most current USN&WR data, but this list looks more or less the same every year:

http://www.asianam.org/2001.htm

Edit:  I found the latest year's free data, and USCGA does not show up for some reason, but even after a post-Iraq decline in applications, USNA and West Point are among the top 10 "hardest" schools to get into.

http://www.asianam.org/2007.htm
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on February 27, 2007, 12:00:28 PM
Just did a quick search on Peterson;s website of the most diffcult colleges to get into, US Air Force Academy and Miltiary Academy are listed, but not the Coast Guard Academy, the website you indicated is data from 2001, shortened link (http://www.petersons.com/ugchannel/code/searches/srchRslt.asp?quickSearch=&alphaparms=&SortColumn=CLIENT_CHECK,ISORT&SortOrder=&searchtype=multicrit&hdnpcomPage=&lstinunid=&major=&sponsor=1&page=1)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on February 27, 2007, 05:24:41 PM
Quote from: Capt. Partridge on February 27, 2007, 11:49:49 AM
Believe what you want to believe.  I don't feel like paying for the most current USN&WR data, but this list looks more or less the same every year:

http://www.asianam.org/2001.htm

Edit:  I found the latest year's free data, and USCGA does not show up for some reason, but even after a post-Iraq decline in applications, USNA and West Point are among the top 10 "hardest" schools to get into.

http://www.asianam.org/2007.htm



Yea these lists dont really tell much.  I mean how many people apply to Harvard just to see what will happen but have no chance?  I bet its in the thousands. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: labart96 on February 28, 2007, 01:08:06 AM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on February 27, 2007, 05:24:41 PM
Quote from: Capt. Partridge on February 27, 2007, 11:49:49 AM
Believe what you want to believe.  I don't feel like paying for the most current USN&WR data, but this list looks more or less the same every year:

http://www.asianam.org/2001.htm

Edit:  I found the latest year's free data, and USCGA does not show up for some reason, but even after a post-Iraq decline in applications, USNA and West Point are among the top 10 "hardest" schools to get into.

http://www.asianam.org/2007.htm



Yea these lists dont really tell much.  I mean how many people apply to Harvard just to see what will happen but have no chance?  I bet its in the thousands. 

just like the lotto, you can't win if you don't p(l)ay......
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on February 28, 2007, 05:23:49 PM
It's a little late, but I think spring practices are limited. I think the number is 25 practices, without pads. They have changed it now so that you can use footballs and use blocking shields, however, you still cannot run plays.  Teams always find ways around everything though.  I could be wrong though, the rules are always changing.

any news on any new "studs" for the NEFC?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on March 05, 2007, 01:07:44 PM
last year was 14 spring practices and you can absolutely run plays....i'm assuming it's gonna be the same this year cuz i haven't heard anything about new policies
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CoachInTheSouth on March 13, 2007, 10:01:51 AM
Any word on a new coach at Fitchburg???
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on March 13, 2007, 03:28:17 PM
Wow, that still has not been filled.  Talk about a tough time to have a coach missing.   ???
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CoachInTheSouth on March 14, 2007, 07:39:17 AM
Not that I've heard...of course knowing that AD....it will still be awhile since football isn't a year round sport.....hah!!!  She is clueless.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on March 15, 2007, 10:07:15 AM
i've looked around a bit and don't even see it advertised anywhere, maybe they're hiring from within?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: chopperj on March 19, 2007, 08:00:14 PM
I've herd that she is in the process of interviewing a few coaches, most from out of state
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on March 20, 2007, 07:28:08 AM
Wow, this is really taking a while.  Seems as if there has to be a quicker way to hire someone.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on March 23, 2007, 10:25:26 AM
Just did some quick research from this site and from the posts it appears that last year Coach Nelson resigned on or about February 24th and Skip Bandini was announced as the new coach on or about April 23rd, so it took about 2 months.  Looks like Coach Haverty's resignation was around February 2nd of this year so we're almost approaching the 2 month mark......
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on March 30, 2007, 07:14:20 AM
Thats a shame about Bill Cav.  He was a real asset to the league and made Dartmouth a stable team on the top of our side of the league.  I hope he does well at Stang.  DOes thing mean that UMD is going full-time?  One would think.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on March 30, 2007, 09:51:21 AM
How many schools have full-time coaches in the NEFC?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on March 30, 2007, 09:29:11 PM
The administration at UMD will not spend the money and make the position a full time one... Upper administration doesn't support, understand or have the vision necessary to excel.  The administration doesn't recognize the importance that a successful football program has for the University... 

Coach Kav is a great coach who has created a very competitive program with very little support from the University.  There have been and are many great players at UMD who came because they had a guy who was knowledgeable and truly cared about them.

Hopefully this will wake up the powers at be but I doubt it.  It's a shame because UMD has so much to offer in the terms of academics and facilities... 

Good luck Coach K...UMD's lose is Stang's gain...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on March 30, 2007, 09:34:59 PM
Full time coaches in the NEFC

MAss M, Maine M, BSC, WNEC, EC, MIT, CG, Nichols, Curry, PSC, Salve...  11 out of 16 teams.  Oh by the way UMD is the only team in the Boyd division without a full time coach.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on March 31, 2007, 08:39:35 AM
Coach Bandini at Curry is not full-time and Coach Nelson was not really a full-time coach either as he was also AD
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on March 31, 2007, 10:37:22 AM
i think you gotta give a definition of full time cuz bsc's coach is assistant fitness director and teach's classes as well, so i'm confused, is that what u mean by full time or if u just didn't know???
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on April 02, 2007, 02:17:18 PM
Well, it certainly would be better for the program to have someone on campus full-time, are there any coaches who only coach full time, no other roles at the school?

And I guess I'd be curious about how the other schools staffs are working it as well.

It seems there are lots of different ways it can get done.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on April 02, 2007, 02:35:06 PM
I have friends who have coached at a lot of different levels and there have always been guys on staff that have held other jobs at the University.  Whether it be fitness, strength and conditioning, equipment manager, or taught a few classes, the bottom line is that they were there on campus all day, every day...  Compare that to the guy who works all day at some high school or some other job to that of a guy who is at the school all day...(by the way it doesn't matter if that coach is the head coach or an assistant as long as it is someone)

I'll guarantee you that the on campus job is only slotted for the whom ever is going to be the football coach...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on April 02, 2007, 08:19:59 PM
I can't imagine hiring a full-time head coach is going to break the bank at any University.  I think that is absolutely ridiculous that these schools don't see enough importance in their athletic programs to at the very least, suck up a salary to have someone there full-time not only for in-season preparation reasons, but for year-round recruiting purposes.  That's a joke, and it's ashame to all these programs and kids that work their butts off in the classroom and on the field, wearing the name of their school's on their jerseys.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on April 02, 2007, 09:26:36 PM
Quote from: D3 Fan on April 02, 2007, 02:35:06 PM
I have friends who have coached at a lot of different levels and there have always been guys on staff that have held other jobs at the University.  Whether it be fitness, strength and conditioning, equipment manager, or taught a few classes, the bottom line is that they were there on campus all day, every day...  Compare that to the guy who works all day at some high school or some other job to that of a guy who is at the school all day...(by the way it doesn't matter if that coach is the head coach or an assistant as long as it is someone)

I'll guarantee you that the on campus job is only slotted for the whom ever is going to be the football coach...


Sometimes even the "fulltime" jobs at the schools dont pay as much as regular high school teaching jobs though.  And did I read somewhere that the Fitchburg St. Coach was a firefighter?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Moose50 on April 06, 2007, 08:27:28 AM
About the Fitchburg job.  Whoever said that the AD is clueless is right!!  She did everything she could to derail what coach Haverty tried to do even stopping the parents from having a 50/50 drawing to help the program.  She's interviewed about ten (10) candidates and now 4/6/07, it's down to 3 or 4.  One is from within and all the others are from outside of school.  The kids haven't even started spring practice because the "clueless" AD won't let the kids practice without a coach, HMMM.  Players are bailing out as well as coaches looking for other schools.  Most have good talent and will be assets wherever they go. I hope many coaches read this post and take a good look at the talent leaing and hopefully pick up these kids and give them a chance.

Dummy of the Year:  Sue Lawless
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: franklin on April 09, 2007, 02:49:55 PM
Fitchburg SC has just chosen someone who doesn't know the players,  doesn't know any of the reqruits, who doesn't know the school, doesn't know the admissions dept., doesn't know the league, doesn't know the opposing coaches, wasn't the choice of very many people who were asked, and is probably using this as a stepping stone.   I predict that he will be gone in 2 years as soon as Yetten/Bentley retires.   Makes sense as his bio reads that he's been at 4 schools in 6 years.  Wow nice surprise for the kids/players getting back from their easter holiday......good luck with that !!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 09, 2007, 02:53:23 PM
If you say so. Does this person have ... I don't know ... a name?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on April 09, 2007, 03:44:58 PM
Dude's name is McGonagle...appears he was the offensive co-ordinator at Bentley and prior to that at Stony Brook.  He also played at the University of Kentucky.  Looks like a pretty solid hire for FSC in U89's opinion.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 09, 2007, 03:47:47 PM
Agreed. I would guess that Franklin represents someone who was not hired.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: franklin on April 09, 2007, 05:27:13 PM
am a anonymous current/returning player who is there !
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 09, 2007, 06:42:17 PM
Give the new guy a chance, would be my suggestion. At my alma mater, coach was let go after a 1-9 season. Everyone wanted his DC to be hired, very popular with the players. The administration hired from the outside, though, somebody nobody on the team knew.

The team went 8-2 in his first season and made the playoffs three times under him.

It's not always going to work out that way, no doubt, but just give the decision a chance.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on April 09, 2007, 08:03:29 PM
It looks to me that McGonagle is a great choice.  Its only been the last few years that Bentley has been one of the top d2 offenses at a program what was average untill a few years ago.  And I also have gotten the impression that Yetten (the HC) isnt really the mind behind the offense and is just more of a figurehead.  It seems that McGonagle was the guy that started the big offensive success.

Then again, Fitchburg isnt going to be one of those places where top coaches will start and end their carreer unless some serious national success happens.  And I dont think it will in the next 2 years at the very least.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: chopperj on April 10, 2007, 06:49:32 PM
The guy sounds like a great choice.  Last year FSC offense was going to have to improve to suck, so it seams they picked a guy who can change that.  Not knowing the players can be a benefit, it will force some dicipline and motivation in the ranks.  As far as not knowing the league and recruits, he is coming from DII, a couple of good tape sessions and talking with some of the remainng coaches will fix all that.

Time to cowboy up FSC, good luck.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: franklin on April 11, 2007, 12:41:22 PM
maybe-- I guess/hope that  we'll know after todays meeting----but right now there are NO remaining coaches-- 0 of 9- no one has been invited back.   Hope lots of them come back BUT ???  I honestly don't believe this schools players can handle the "no huddle" thing all the time.   There are huge differences between who plays at 2 and 3,  not just size/speed.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on April 11, 2007, 03:21:30 PM
Franklin,
There is really not a whole lot of difference between an elite DIII program and Bentley football......I would feel very comfortable putting the top 3 teams from the Liberty League & Empire 8 against Bentley any day!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on April 11, 2007, 07:27:44 PM
Quote from: Union89 on April 11, 2007, 03:21:30 PM
Franklin,
There is really not a whole lot of difference between an elite DIII program and Bentley football......I would feel very comfortable putting the top 3 teams from the Liberty League & Empire 8 against Bentley any day!!!!

I have to agree here.  Bentley is a good program.  But let's face it, other than the elite D2 teams, there's a marginal difference in size, speed, and athleticism.  I've seen Merrimack, Bentley, UMass-Lowell(Before they folded), and a bunch of other D2 teams in New England, and RPI, Union, Hobart, Ithaca, SJF, etc, would mop the field with those teams.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PBR... on April 11, 2007, 09:02:42 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 09, 2007, 06:42:17 PM
Give the new guy a chance, would be my suggestion. At my alma mater, coach was let go after a 1-9 season. Everyone wanted his DC to be hired, very popular with the players. The administration hired from the outside, though, somebody nobody on the team knew.

The team went 8-2 in his first season and made the playoffs three times under him.

It's not always going to work out that way, no doubt, but just give the decision a chance.

right on pat....when delaware valley hired mangus the thinking was kinda who is this guy? yeah he had a decent resume and coached some d3 but we saw what he did at del val....took a perennial doormat with very little talent and turned them into a perennial playoff contender before he left. give the new coach a chance, sometimes its actually good to go outside the program and get someone with no ties and have a fresh look at things
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: franklin on April 11, 2007, 10:25:30 PM
granted ,but this is NEFC not always the cream of crop,but very hard working people !  my cousin plays for an opponent of Bentley and says the m.o. is wristbands for plays and no huddle, tons of passing-- this will not work all the time with my team.  Is one setback going to be good with a team that has lots of returning backs ?? nice friendly meeting/ but practice hasn't started, 1 coach, vague ideas and not as many as expected showed up !   I want to start now as I only have 2 years left and not a season to learn all new things that MAY or MAY NOT work-- I know all the other teams in the league are almost finished with spring practice........ I'm getting very nervous.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on April 11, 2007, 10:57:21 PM
Quote from: franklin on April 11, 2007, 10:25:30 PM
granted ,but this is NEFC not always the cream of crop,but very hard working people !  my cousin plays for an opponent of Bentley and says the m.o. is wristbands for plays and no huddle, tons of passing-- this will not work all the time with my team.  Is one setback going to be good with a team that has lots of returning backs ?? nice friendly meeting/ but practice hasn't started, 1 coach, vague ideas and not as many as expected showed up !   I want to start now as I only have 2 years left and not a season to learn all new things that MAY or MAY NOT work-- I know all the other teams in the league are almost finished with spring practice........ I'm getting very nervous.

Jesus H. Christ!  This is college football, not pee wee's!  Learn a new offense.  Learn a new defense.  It's not rocket science.  I'm sure they offer intramural flag football there, if you just want to run around and be a gym hero.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 12, 2007, 12:24:38 AM
Quote from: uPBRmeASAP on April 11, 2007, 09:02:42 PM
right on pat....when delaware valley hired mangus the thinking was kinda who is this guy?

Uhh -- I appreciate the agreement but nobody who knew anything about football in the mid-atlantic area said that about G.A. Mangus. :)

His reputation was well-cemented at Ursinus and Widener.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PBR... on April 12, 2007, 07:30:38 AM
ld me thinks being back in the northeast got your mojo back and southern hositality is thrown out the window... yes pat i should of left the (tic) in there i edited and earlier post where i said we knew little of mangus and he had a 'ok' resume with playing qb at florida under spurrier, was a grad asst under spurrier, coached under spurrier and was known at several d3 schools....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on April 12, 2007, 10:44:49 AM
RPI switched from a meat and potatoes I-pro offense to a pass happy spread my senior year (I played defense, but they changed EVERYTHING on offense: terminology, formation, and plays) and the players picked it up with no problem and went undefeated in the reg season.

Running, blocking, passing, catching... that stuff never changes. If your team has solid fundamentals changing the play calling shouldn't matter.

p.s. Teams that use the spread offense can actually run the ball pretty effectively.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: franklin on April 12, 2007, 10:56:16 AM
Thanks pat for the intellectual and stimulating response--- I simply meant that in my "limited/inexperienced" wisdom felt that this MAY not fit the people that have been collected at this time.... Of course there is no time left to get/recruit others into this school for our immed. future...... thus taking your cue/and insults galore-- my football playing roommate and I will be visiting Bridgewater tomorrow and UMD sat. and hopefully enrolling asap.   Name calling ,I had thought, was only for those who cannot grasp large portions of the english language and express themselves successfully.    I'm out.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on April 12, 2007, 10:59:24 AM
Quote from: franklin on April 11, 2007, 10:25:30 PM
granted ,but this is NEFC not always the cream of crop,but very hard working people !  my cousin plays for an opponent of Bentley and says the m.o. is wristbands for plays and no huddle, tons of passing-- this will not work all the time with my team.  Is one setback going to be good with a team that has lots of returning backs ?? nice friendly meeting/ but practice hasn't started, 1 coach, vague ideas and not as many as expected showed up !   I want to start now as I only have 2 years left and not a season to learn all new things that MAY or MAY NOT work-- I know all the other teams in the league are almost finished with spring practice........ I'm getting very nervous.

Franklin maybe this is exactly what the NEFC needs is a coach like this guy.  

And like the other guys have said, NE10 football is very similar to top d3 football.  Plus, heres Bentely College, a team that 10 years ago would get beat by Ithaca or Union by probably 4 touchdowns (IC used to beat CW Post and AIC good back then) and now within the last 5 years, Bentely is in the d2 national quarterfinals, even beating a top d2 team this year and putting up record numbers in the country.  And its all because of a changed offense (developed from what Ive heard) by the new Fitchburg coach.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on April 12, 2007, 11:23:32 AM
I don't think there's any name calling go around.  There is some whining going on, but we're just throwing some factual information out there.  Let's face it, what is going on in the NEFC right now isn't working, maybe a new guy with some experience, and a new game plan might throw a little wrinkle into a deflated league.  Maybe it will take 3-5 years for it to work, with recruiting aspects and what not.  If the core of the existing team has the attitude of Rich Franklin over there, it might take longer than that until they get the bad eggs out of there and adopt a new attitude and a philosophy of WINNING!

And JU, for my historical fact of the day:

1995
RPI  41
Albany 7 (Division 2 at the time)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PBR... on April 12, 2007, 11:54:34 AM
someone must of p'd in franklins cheerios this morning...sensing a little hostility in his response...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: realistic on April 12, 2007, 12:19:08 PM
Quote from: franklin on April 12, 2007, 10:56:16 AM
Thanks pat for the intellectual and stimulating response--- I simply meant that in my "limited/inexperienced" wisdom felt that this MAY not fit the people that have been collected at this time.... Of course there is no time left to get/recruit others into this school for our immed. future...... thus taking your cue/and insults galore-- my football playing roommate and I will be visiting Bridgewater tomorrow and UMD sat. and hopefully enrolling asap.   Name calling ,I had thought, was only for those who cannot grasp large portions of the english language and express themselves successfully.    I'm out.

you're transfering schools b/c your college hired a new coach?  It might not be ideal at first, but do you really want to change everything (even more than a new coach would) for 2 years of football b/c a coach was changed?

What about credits transfering?  Friends?  Seems a little harsh over a coaching change.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on April 12, 2007, 01:07:07 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on April 12, 2007, 11:23:32 AM
I don't think there's any name calling go around.  There is some whining going on, but we're just throwing some factual information out there.  Let's face it, what is going on in the NEFC right now isn't working, maybe a new guy with some experience, and a new game plan might throw a little wrinkle into a deflated league.  Maybe it will take 3-5 years for it to work, with recruiting aspects and what not.  If the core of the existing team has the attitude of Rich Franklin over there, it might take longer than that until they get the bad eggs out of there and adopt a new attitude and a philosophy of WINNING!

And JU, for my historical fact of the day:

1995
RPI  41
Albany 7 (Division 2 at the time)

Im 87% sure that Albany was never d2.  They were d3 in 1994 and I know they went to 1-AA later. 

Great Danes......I remember playin em. 

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on April 12, 2007, 01:36:49 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on April 12, 2007, 01:07:07 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on April 12, 2007, 11:23:32 AM
I don't think there's any name calling go around.  There is some whining going on, but we're just throwing some factual information out there.  Let's face it, what is going on in the NEFC right now isn't working, maybe a new guy with some experience, and a new game plan might throw a little wrinkle into a deflated league.  Maybe it will take 3-5 years for it to work, with recruiting aspects and what not.  If the core of the existing team has the attitude of Rich Franklin over there, it might take longer than that until they get the bad eggs out of there and adopt a new attitude and a philosophy of WINNING!

And JU, for my historical fact of the day:

1995
RPI  41
Albany 7 (Division 2 at the time)

Im 87% sure that Albany was never d2.  They were d3 in 1994 and I know they went to 1-AA later. 

Great Danes......I remember playin em. 



Albany State - 1995 NCAA Division II
Record 3-7
9/2 L at Dayton 14-40
9/9 W @ Central CT 17-10
9/16 L @ C.W. Post 21-27
9/23 L @ RPI 7-41
10/7 L @ Union 6-20
10/14 L So. CT State 14-35
10/28 W Pace 38-20
11/3 L @ New Jersey 3-=43
11/11 W King's, PA 50-0
11/18 L Stony Brook 21-40

Went D2 in 1995, D1-AA in 1999
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on April 12, 2007, 01:43:59 PM
I should have just said that I was 13% sure that Albany was d2 from the years 1995-1998.

And that theres only a 2% chance of that.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on April 12, 2007, 01:45:03 PM
Albany was 31-12 in D2 play.   Nanny nanny naaaaaannnyyyy. 

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: chopperj on April 12, 2007, 02:00:33 PM
Franklin, DIII football is about having the opportunity to play college football and building friendships and memories.  Changing schools because of a coach that you've never practiced with, leaving your team mates and   going to a new school and starting all over with a new program and new team mates seems a little drastic and to be quit honest immature.

Give the guy and your team a chance.  There are a core of quality athletes on your team that will rise to the challange.

P.S. Spring practice doesn't mean much it's all about being prepared for camp and you still have time to get some practices in.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 12, 2007, 04:48:51 PM
Albany did what most of the new 1AA 's do. They play a year of DIII then DII and then move up. I rememeber Georgetown doing that a few years back. And I believe by their  4th year they were a real good team 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on April 12, 2007, 04:53:58 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on April 12, 2007, 01:36:49 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on April 12, 2007, 01:07:07 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on April 12, 2007, 11:23:32 AM
I don't think there's any name calling go around.  There is some whining going on, but we're just throwing some factual information out there.  Let's face it, what is going on in the NEFC right now isn't working, maybe a new guy with some experience, and a new game plan might throw a little wrinkle into a deflated league.  Maybe it will take 3-5 years for it to work, with recruiting aspects and what not.  If the core of the existing team has the attitude of Rich Franklin over there, it might take longer than that until they get the bad eggs out of there and adopt a new attitude and a philosophy of WINNING!

And JU, for my historical fact of the day:

1995
RPI  41
Albany 7 (Division 2 at the time)

Im 87% sure that Albany was never d2.  They were d3 in 1994 and I know they went to 1-AA later. 

Great Danes......I remember playin em. 



Albany State - 1995 NCAA Division II
Record 3-7
9/2 L at Dayton 14-40
9/9 W @ Central CT 17-10
9/16 L @ C.W. Post 21-27
9/23 L @ RPI 7-41
10/7 L @ Union 6-20
10/14 L So. CT State 14-35
10/28 W Pace 38-20
11/3 L @ New Jersey 3-=43
11/11 W King's, PA 50-0
11/18 L Stony Brook 21-40

Went D2 in 1995, D1-AA in 1999



LD11 has a big, giant brain......it's a good deal perverted, but it is big!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: waggle09 on April 13, 2007, 08:12:46 PM
By the way, I follow New England Football and Coach Yettten and Coach McGonagle have done a super job at Bentley. Peter has a very good program and they are head and shoulders over the NEFC. That's not to say that many players in the NEFC could not play at the D2 level. Put Bentley against Worcester State and all the others it would be out of control
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bearyear on April 14, 2007, 12:45:27 AM
franklin,
sorry lil late on this, but are you seriou? you sound like lil baby...do you honestly think its a better choice to transfer with 2 years left then to just adjust a bit to a new coach..whichever you do your still forced with learning a new program...your a college student, learning a new playbook is like taking math 105..for umd and bridgewater's sake i hope you stay at fitchburg..noone needs a crybaby player like you on their team...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bearyear on April 14, 2007, 12:47:32 AM
oh yea and regarding spring ball, bridgewater is only 2 deep
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on April 14, 2007, 11:18:31 AM
Quote from: waggle09 on April 13, 2007, 08:12:46 PM
By the way, I follow New England Football and Coach Yettten and Coach McGonagle have done a super job at Bentley. Peter has a very good program and they are head and shoulders over the NEFC. That's not to say that many players in the NEFC could not play at the D2 level. Put Bentley against Worcester State and all the others it would be out of control

I think Bentley is going to be hurting after the McGonagle loss.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on April 24, 2007, 02:37:37 PM
What s the news out of Dartmouth?  Anyone know anything?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on May 10, 2007, 03:31:34 PM
just checked UMass Dartmouth's website and it still says "Head Coach - Vacant"

Anyone know anything about incoming recruiting classes?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on May 11, 2007, 12:27:38 PM
Guys, don't forget this Sunday to 'Treat Your Mother Right!!!!'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_rBidCkJxo
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on May 11, 2007, 12:36:37 PM
O.k. - that is pretty hysterical - first I thought Mr. T's short shorts wer the funniest thing - - until he went into the moans and the miserable groans and the pain she felt when he was born!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on May 11, 2007, 09:15:32 PM
NEFC newsflash.............

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=1000696
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on May 12, 2007, 02:02:36 PM
Quote from: JU on May 11, 2007, 09:15:32 PM
NEFC newsflash.............

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=1000696

'According to a written statement attributed to FSC President Timothy Flanagan, the college is continuing to investigate the incident and regrets media attention tied to the theft diverts attention from the school's educational mission. '

FSC's educational mission must be serious! 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on May 13, 2007, 01:49:48 PM
Quote from: JU on May 11, 2007, 09:15:32 PM
NEFC newsflash.............

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=1000696

Not the brightest bulbs on the christmas tree, and what were they trying to spell? were there more girls?

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bostonherald.com%2Fimages%2FlocalRegional%2Fbellyltp05102007.jpg&hash=29f5c197560228d8f33a0b8565785715f99193e4)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on May 13, 2007, 07:35:17 PM
Quote from: 'gro on May 13, 2007, 01:49:48 PM
Quote from: JU on May 11, 2007, 09:15:32 PM
NEFC newsflash.............

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=1000696

Not the brightest bulbs on the christmas tree, and what were they trying to spell? were there more girls?

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bostonherald.com%2Fimages%2FlocalRegional%2Fbellyltp05102007.jpg&hash=29f5c197560228d8f33a0b8565785715f99193e4)

I believe that is an 'H' 'O' and 'O'.  There were four girls cut out of the picture.  The 'W' 'E' 'R' and 'S'. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on May 13, 2007, 10:25:08 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on May 13, 2007, 07:35:17 PM
Quote from: 'gro on May 13, 2007, 01:49:48 PM
Quote from: JU on May 11, 2007, 09:15:32 PM
NEFC newsflash.............

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=1000696

Not the brightest bulbs on the christmas tree, and what were they trying to spell? were there more girls?

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bostonherald.com%2Fimages%2FlocalRegional%2Fbellyltp05102007.jpg&hash=29f5c197560228d8f33a0b8565785715f99193e4)

I believe that is an 'H' 'O' and 'O'.  There were four girls cut out of the picture.  The 'W' 'E' 'R' and 'S'. 

Yea the herald had a bigger picture of all the girls but I cant seem to find it anywhere on the webpage (I didnt try too hard) but there were more girls........
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bearyear on May 14, 2007, 12:07:53 AM
whyy is this even in the paper????
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on May 14, 2007, 12:10:43 AM
Quote from: bearyear on May 14, 2007, 12:07:53 AM
whyy is this even in the paper????

A bunch of girls from Framingham state went to a womens lacrosse game and wrote letters on their stomachs or whatever.  Then the school newspaper had the picture of them doing it in the paper.  So the girls thought that they looked fat or whatever and stole all the papers across the campus.  Not really a big story but kind of funny
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 26, 2007, 10:37:16 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on May 13, 2007, 07:35:17 PM
Quote from: 'gro on May 13, 2007, 01:49:48 PM
Quote from: JU on May 11, 2007, 09:15:32 PM
NEFC newsflash.............

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=1000696

Not the brightest bulbs on the christmas tree, and what were they trying to spell? were there more girls?

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bostonherald.com%2Fimages%2FlocalRegional%2Fbellyltp05102007.jpg&hash=29f5c197560228d8f33a0b8565785715f99193e4)

I believe that is an 'H' 'O' and 'O'.  There were four girls cut out of the picture.  The 'W' 'E' 'R' and 'S'. 
This is the roster of the lacrosse team.  Number 6 is named Noonan.  I think the letters are "N" "O" "O".  This must be meant for her. :-*

http://www.framingham.edu/Athletics/WLAX_Roster_2007.pdf
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bearyear on May 27, 2007, 12:45:01 PM
2007 schedule finally posted...cant wait.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bearyear on May 29, 2007, 08:20:39 PM
R.I.P. Marquise Hill....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Shoreman on June 19, 2007, 09:32:22 PM
Quote from: bearyear on May 27, 2007, 12:45:01 PM
2007 schedule finally posted...cant wait.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Shoreman on June 19, 2007, 09:34:19 PM
UMass D finally hires a coach, sounds like he's a good football man. Anybody know more about his background?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Shoreman on June 19, 2007, 09:36:36 PM
Quote from: Shoreman on June 19, 2007, 09:34:19 PM
UMass D finally hires a coach, sounds like he's a good football man. Anybody know more about his background?

"It takes a lean dog to run a long race!"
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on June 20, 2007, 05:38:49 PM
Quote from: Shoreman on June 19, 2007, 09:34:19 PM
UMass D finally hires a coach, sounds like he's a good football man. Anybody know more about his background?

Ive heard of him, but I dont think he will have any full time coaches and the assistants are usually guys that just got out of college with no expereince.

I also see that Cavanaugh went back to Bishop Feehan? 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on August 08, 2007, 02:56:27 PM
There will not be any full staff and Kavanaugh is at Bishop Stang.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: K-Mack on August 10, 2007, 01:30:08 AM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on June 20, 2007, 05:38:49 PM
Quote from: Shoreman on June 19, 2007, 09:34:19 PM
UMass D finally hires a coach, sounds like he's a good football man. Anybody know more about his background?

Ive heard of him, but I dont think he will have any full time coaches and the assistants are usually guys that just got out of college with no expereince.

That was the sense I got from the job board posting too.

Almost thought it might be a good story idea for the site one day. I'm pretty sure I could coach something, or at least watch the water bottles.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefan on August 12, 2007, 09:19:21 PM
The 2007 Season starts and the NEFC will be up for grabs again !!! The favorites are Bridgewater,Fitchburg, UMass Dartmouth , Endicott and Curry... Any new players (transfers ) plenty of new coaches 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on August 14, 2007, 08:35:50 AM
I haven't heard anything about any new studs in the NEFC this year. I just wanted to add another team that is in the running for champ, Coast Guard.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on August 14, 2007, 01:04:19 PM
I would say CC should be in the mix but unless something drastically changes at Curry....who else will beat them??? This may be EC's year but time is running out for them, BSC was young last year with good talent, UMD was young last year with good talent, and WNEC with a full time coach in his 2nd year might be interesting. 

My thoughts are UMD, Curry and EC fight it out and WorS, CC, and BSC on the other side.  Curry vs. BSC for the Championship...Sorry EC, until you change the offense playing good defense will only get you so far...  CC will always be a cyclical team, up one year down the next but they sure will compete hard along the way...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on August 14, 2007, 02:06:45 PM
Quote from: D3 Fan on August 14, 2007, 01:04:19 PM
I would say CC should be in the mix but unless something drastically changes at Curry....who else will beat them??? This may be EC's year but time is running out for them, BSC was young last year with good talent, UMD was young last year with good talent, and WNEC with a full time coach in his 2nd year might be interesting. 

My thoughts are UMD, Curry and EC fight it out and WorS, CC, and BSC on the other side.  Curry vs. BSC for the Championship...Sorry EC, until you change the offense playing good defense will only get you so far...  CC will always be a cyclical team, up one year down the next but they sure will compete hard along the way...



I would venture to say that Coast Guard will consistantly be near the top of the NEFC almost every year.  Even in 'down' years, Coast Guard was competative within the LL and FFC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 14, 2007, 02:25:14 PM
I agree that they should be competitive in the NEFC year in and year out, but they were not competitive in their previous conferences anytime recently.

1999 (1-9, 1-5 FFC)
2000 (2-8, 0-6 FFC)
2001 (2-7, 1-5 FFC)
2002 (2-7, 1-5 FFC)
2003 (4-5, 3-3 FFC)
2004 (1-8, 0-7 LL)
2005 (2-7, 0-7 LL)
2006 (8-3, 7-0 NEFC Bogan)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on August 14, 2007, 02:38:22 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 14, 2007, 02:25:14 PM
I agree that they should be competitive in the NEFC year in and year out, but they were not competitive in their previous conferences anytime recently.

1999 (1-9, 1-5 FFC)
2000 (2-8, 0-6 FFC)
2001 (2-7, 1-5 FFC)
2002 (2-7, 1-5 FFC)
2003 (4-5, 3-3 FFC)
2004 (1-8, 0-7 LL)
2005 (2-7, 0-7 LL)
2006 (8-3, 7-0 NEFC Bogan)


I hear ya....I should have elaborated on my thought.  I meant that CG was usually in games...they rarely get blown out.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 14, 2007, 11:16:52 PM
The option offense shortens the game, though, to an extent.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on August 19, 2007, 01:51:02 PM
So, does anyone know any early preseason news?  Just under 2 weeks away for some of the openers and the posting is slow.  Lets get some chatter here.  I know my Gulls with the addition of Coach Val will have an improved O (we can hope).  What else is there???
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: K-Mack on August 22, 2007, 12:47:45 AM
Quote from: gullgrad on August 19, 2007, 01:51:02 PMSo, does anyone know any early preseason news? 

I know one place where there's some, mostly straight out the horses' mouths.

It's gonna cost you though (http://www.d3football.com/kickoff/).

All the insight after this is free, we swear.  ;)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullalum on August 22, 2007, 03:52:26 PM
Any word if Endicott has done anything different offensively?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on August 22, 2007, 06:09:43 PM
Does anyone know why the Sept 1, EC vs. Framingham game is listed as an exhibition scrimmage game?  That leaves EC with 9 official games as opposed to the usual 10 they have played in the pprevious years. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on August 23, 2007, 09:56:29 PM
Probably because the administration at Framingham wouldn't pay for a tenth game which would have meant the team coming into camp a week earlier...

With money being tight, the state schools really have to fight for 10 regular season games...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on August 25, 2007, 11:35:44 AM
probably because EC is getting tired of not playing a post season game. If  they play 10 regular season games it means that they are not even eligible for an ECAC bid.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 25, 2007, 12:12:28 PM
If they play 10 regular season games AND in the NEFC championship, they are not eligible for an ECAC bid.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefan on August 27, 2007, 12:03:39 AM
Pat- Are you sure? There are exemptions to the 10 game limit A-Post Season conf playoff, B- Conf playoff (ECAC) limited to one game, C- Preseason Practice Scrimmage. D-NCAA Championships.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 27, 2007, 09:36:23 AM
Otherwise, how did Coast Guard play in an ECAC game last year?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefan on August 27, 2007, 11:20:04 AM
What I am saying is that they could possibly play 12 games ...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 27, 2007, 02:28:38 PM
That isn't true these days, I've been told. If you finish the NEFC title game with 11 games already and lose, you can't go to an ECAC game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on August 27, 2007, 06:05:50 PM
Thanks Pat, I assumed that might be the case.  Apparently EC must feel that they have post-season playoff chances this year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on August 31, 2007, 12:36:58 PM
Pick Time, its nice to be back in the season.  Here is what I am guessing

Mass Maritime 28 Suny Mar. 14
Curry 35 Worc 14
WPI 41 UMD 7

Go Gulls! (next week)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on August 31, 2007, 06:37:03 PM
My picks:

Curry 42 Worcester 7
MAM 21 SUNY 10
WPI 28 UMD 14
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on August 31, 2007, 06:39:26 PM
One more pick:

WNEC 28 Hartwick 14
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 05, 2007, 07:12:53 PM
I figured there would be at least some talk about WNECs win this past weekend (I was somewhat suprised)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 05, 2007, 07:21:29 PM
I think WNEC will have a good team thie year and may surprise a few folks.  I think this is the 3rd year for their coach and he has had time to get his system in place and get some good players.  I was not surprised by their win over Hartwick, but then Hartwick isn't a powerhouse either. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 05, 2007, 07:26:26 PM
Quote from: 63Center on September 05, 2007, 07:21:29 PM
I think WNEC will have a good team thie year and may surprise a few folks.  I think this is the 3rd year for their coach and he has had time to get his system in place and get some good players.  I was not surprised by their win over Hartwick, but then Hartwick isn't a powerhouse either. 

I think WNEC has maybe the best potential out of all the NEFC schools to take it to the next level.  Decent private school that can get kids from MA, CT, NY and NJ.  Decent business programs and I think the head coach is full time this year for the first time?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on September 06, 2007, 02:18:52 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on September 05, 2007, 07:26:26 PM
Quote from: 63Center on September 05, 2007, 07:21:29 PM
I think WNEC will have a good team thie year and may surprise a few folks.  I think this is the 3rd year for their coach and he has had time to get his system in place and get some good players.  I was not surprised by their win over Hartwick, but then Hartwick isn't a powerhouse either. 

I think WNEC has maybe the best potential out of all the NEFC schools to take it to the next level.  Decent private school that can get kids from MA, CT, NY and NJ.  Decent business programs and I think the head coach is full time this year for the first time?


Was wondering who gave WNEC a vote in the fan poll..... :o
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 06, 2007, 06:30:37 PM
Quote from: Union89 on September 06, 2007, 02:18:52 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on September 05, 2007, 07:26:26 PM
Quote from: 63Center on September 05, 2007, 07:21:29 PM
I think WNEC will have a good team thie year and may surprise a few folks.  I think this is the 3rd year for their coach and he has had time to get his system in place and get some good players.  I was not surprised by their win over Hartwick, but then Hartwick isn't a powerhouse either. 

I think WNEC has maybe the best potential out of all the NEFC schools to take it to the next level.  Decent private school that can get kids from MA, CT, NY and NJ.  Decent business programs and I think the head coach is full time this year for the first time?


Was wondering who gave WNEC a vote in the fan poll..... :o

Im the NEFC rep.  I gotta give em some love sometimes.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 07, 2007, 06:31:00 PM
This week's picks.

MIT 20  MAM 10
WPI 21 Worcester State 7
WNEC 28  Westfield 17
BSC 14 UMD 10
Nichols 35 Framingham 7
RPI 45 EC 10
Salve 21 SUNY 14
PSC 35 Mt Ida 14
Curry 28 Fitchburg 10
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 08, 2007, 10:24:15 AM
Well, maybe WNEC isn't as good as they initially looked after losing to Westfield last night.  I don't know much about Westfield this year, but I didn't think they would beat WNEC even at home.

Where are the rest of the picks? Has everyone given up on the NEFC?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on September 10, 2007, 09:17:18 PM
so much for WNEC, EC, Worcester and UMD....  WNEC has the best chance taking it to the next level???? Wow what a reach... 8)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 11, 2007, 08:54:09 AM
Quote from: D3 Fan on September 10, 2007, 09:17:18 PM
so much for WNEC, EC, Worcester and UMD....  WNEC has the best chance taking it to the next level???? Wow what a reach... 8)

I think WNEC needs to get Springfield on the schedule and start trying to reach that level.  I heard SC kind of thinks they are the big dog in Springfield though and kind of looks down on WNEC (athletically anyway)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fscparent on September 11, 2007, 09:23:40 AM
Maybe Westfield State has a very good team.  The next few weeks should tell if WNEC had an off day or if WSC is good.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on September 11, 2007, 09:54:58 PM
I agree JU but historically, UMD, Curry and EC are the only NEFC teams that have tried to play quality opponents outside the NEFC  on a consistant basis. BSC had in the past as well...

It just seems that the only people who care how well the NEFC does outside the league are the people who post here, the players and a few coaches.  What's more important, going to an ECAC game or the NCAA's?  I would say that most NEFC schools are happy for a chance at the ECAcCs then doing what it takes to compete on the national level...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 11, 2007, 10:33:02 PM
The NEFC doesn't play that many games outside the league to begin with ...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 12, 2007, 08:21:23 AM
Quote from: D3 Fan on September 11, 2007, 09:54:58 PM
I agree JU but historically, UMD, Curry and EC are the only NEFC teams that have tried to play quality opponents outside the NEFC  on a consistant basis. BSC had in the past as well...

It just seems that the only people who care how well the NEFC does outside the league are the people who post here, the players and a few coaches.  What's more important, going to an ECAC game or the NCAA's?  I would say that most NEFC schools are happy for a chance at the ECAcCs then doing what it takes to compete on the national level...

I think you are starting to see some head coaches in the NEFC that want to take it to the next level though.  You see some guys that have played at some good d3 schools, and might want to take a NEFC school to the next level.  Then again, some of them probably look at a nefc job as experience for something else too.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2007, 10:29:30 AM
Definitely. The problem is that this is a 16-team league with a bunch of schools that have not supported football.

I still think at least one of the MASCAC campuses should be closed and the schools consolidated. Not that that would happen.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on September 12, 2007, 12:29:11 PM
The fact of the 16-team league is huge because that already locks up seven division games out of your schedule. Then you have a few traditional crossover conference games and your already at nine.  Then the coaches have to worry about playing too many games and losing eligibility for ECAC bids in case they don't win the championship, like Endicott a few years ago.  Also I can't speak for the private schools but for the state colleges those trips might not be in their athletic budget.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2007, 01:45:39 PM
Pimpin: Not everyone needs to worry about losing ECAC eligibility. Some schools are a long way from that.

And frankly, I would suggest playing for the NEFC title is far more prestigious than playing an ECAC game. You can still play 10 plus NEFC title game, or 10 plus ECAC game, just not both.

News of interest to NEFC fans:
http://www.d3football.com/notables/2007/09/12/NAC+to+sponsor+football+in+%2709
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on September 12, 2007, 02:17:00 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2007, 01:45:39 PM
Pimpin: Not everyone needs to worry about losing ECAC eligibility. Some schools are a long way from that.

And frankly, I would suggest playing for the NEFC title is far more prestigious than playing an ECAC game. You can still play 10 plus NEFC title game, or 10 plus ECAC game, just not both.

News of interest to NEFC fans:
http://www.d3football.com/notables/2007/09/12/NAC+to+sponsor+football+in+%2709

Gallaudet? wow. They must like to travel.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on September 12, 2007, 03:35:44 PM
Pat:  But by playing nine you leave yourself eligible for ECAC even if you lose the NEFC championship, cue FSC and Coast Guard the last couple of years.  I know you don't hope for that to happen but it's still a post season championship for the school.

Seriously too the best teams in the NEFC have enough trouble competing out of conference and you want the teams that could not even make an ECAC game to play out of conference.  I don't think getting beat up by an out of conference would help their programs very much.  Trust me I understand what your saying but if you look at it from the other aingle it's not really in their best interest.

I'm confused how that news affects  the NEFC because it says Maine Maritime is staying.  Did I miss something?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2007, 04:11:34 PM
Quote from: Pimpingold on September 12, 2007, 03:35:44 PM
Pat:  But by playing nine you leave yourself eligible for ECAC even if you lose the NEFC championship, cue FSC and Coast Guard the last couple of years.  I know you don't hope for that to happen but it's still a post season championship for the school.

I'm aware. I believe I laid out the parameters correctly.

Maine Maritime is staying for now but you have to think there's concern for NEFC fans that they won't for long.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on September 12, 2007, 04:19:11 PM
Interesting stuff about the NAC adding football. It should be interesting to see if any of the better teams in the NEFC try to jump ship within the next few years. This could be the solution to the 16-team NEFC breaking up and playing some more difficult non-conference opponents. It would be great if teams like EC, FSC, UMD, and Curry would break out and possible gain some recognition and possibly win an NCAA game. Any thoughts??
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2007, 04:20:23 PM
For what it's worth, I put my thoughts here:

http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/2007/09/12/new-england-football-shuffle/
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 12, 2007, 06:05:52 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on September 12, 2007, 04:19:11 PM
Interesting stuff about the NAC adding football. It should be interesting to see if any of the better teams in the NEFC try to jump ship within the next few years. This could be the solution to the 16-team NEFC breaking up and playing some more difficult non-conference opponents. It would be great if teams like EC, FSC, UMD, and Curry would break out and possible gain some recognition and possibly win an NCAA game. Any thoughts??

I think the NEFC is a better overall league than the NAC in all sports and teams would not leave the NEFC for that conference.  Mt. Ida and Becker would join any conference that asked them.  From what Ive heard, the NAC is not a very well run conference and many of those teams have tried to join the other NE leagues (CCC, GNAC and Little east) in the past.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on September 12, 2007, 06:34:36 PM
years from now there could conceivably be 3 New England conferences with an AQ (NAC, and the NEFC split into to other conferences).  That would turn the east region playoffs into

1. NAC
2. NEFC-1
3. NEFC-2
4. LL
5. Empire (insert #)
6. NJAC
7. MAC
8. Pool B/C Team

If more than 1 team is Pool B/C worthy, they would have to ship a team out of the east, for once 8)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2007, 06:44:20 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on September 12, 2007, 06:05:52 PM
I think the NEFC is a better overall league than the NAC in all sports and teams would not leave the NEFC for that conference.  Mt. Ida and Becker would join any conference that asked them.  From what Ive heard, the NAC is not a very well run conference and many of those teams have tried to join the other NE leagues (CCC, GNAC and Little east) in the past.

The NEFC doesn't exist overall and in all sports.

Ida, Becker and others did join the new NECC (formerly the NeNAC). I think the NAC's problem was it was too big geographically. The remaining teams are much more compact and have a little more in common.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 12, 2007, 07:30:35 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2007, 06:44:20 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on September 12, 2007, 06:05:52 PM
I think the NEFC is a better overall league than the NAC in all sports and teams would not leave the NEFC for that conference.  Mt. Ida and Becker would join any conference that asked them.  From what Ive heard, the NAC is not a very well run conference and many of those teams have tried to join the other NE leagues (CCC, GNAC and Little east) in the past.

The NEFC doesn't exist overall and in all sports.



Right.  I meant all the NEFC teams in their respective leagues in other sports....

The problem with a lot of these schools is that they simply dont have the facilities or budgets to be competitive at the d3 level nationally or regionally for that matter.


Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on September 12, 2007, 09:08:53 PM
Having been involved with the NEFC title game, the NCAA's and the ECAC's, I can tell you that the NEFC title game means more then an oops game in the ECAC's.  It's a nice consolation if you don't make the title game and in the past really meant something to a team that was trying to grow...Now that you are playing a team from your area or one you've already played during the year takes away from it....

I beg to differ regarding playing teams outside your league and getting your but kicked.  A lot is gained from the experience of playing those better teams and it shows your players and recruits that you're trying to expand your program.  Going out and playing the Stonehills, Merrimack's, Springfield's and West Conns (all teams that the NEFC recruits against) helps big time in the recruiting game  and shows your players what they have to do if they want to compete at that level.

If the NEFC breaks up the Privates will go one way and the publics the other way....my opinion!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on September 12, 2007, 11:38:17 PM
Seems to me, in past years, the NEFC Championship has been the main goal for teams in this conf.  Chatter has been high leading up to the Champioship Game, but then dies when the winner reaches the NCAA game.....seems that expectations are very low even within the NEFC member schools that an NCAA win is even attainable.

Just my opinion......
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on September 13, 2007, 12:09:06 PM
Maine Maritime should leave the NEFC for the NAC.  The NEFC is a tired league that really has not put any effort into their athletics.  If you take a peek at what Husson has done in their short time playing football you can easily say they have a stronger commitment to the game than any NEFC school.  I would hope that other NAC teams would follow suit (certainly any new ones.)  If Maine left it would just mark the beginning of the end of the NEFC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on September 13, 2007, 03:50:29 PM
I disagree with the fact that there is no effort being put in.  In the last 5 years Mass Maritime, Fitchburg, Umass Dartmouth, and Framingham have all put in new fields.  Westfield built a brand new field house.  While  Bridgewater put in a new gym and is looking to put in a new stadium in the upcoming off-season.  The schools have done their best with the money they have so I don't know how you could say no effort.

I agree with what Union is saying too, but if the NEFC were to get that first win out of the way I think that would change everything.  I mean it's definitely possible if you look at 1999 Bridgewater only lost by 5 points.  Plus the best part about football is that any team can win on a given day...Appalachian vs. Michigan, if that's possible what isn't?!?

D3 Fan your completely wrong thinking that playing a team again takes away from ECAC's.  I mean imagine getting to beat down two teams in consecutives years that were the one reason you didn't make the championship game...Bridgewater vs. Fitchburg/Coast Guard.  Getting the chance for revenge in football rarely happens in the same season and it can change the whole mentality of a teams off-season.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on September 13, 2007, 09:46:58 PM
Pimpin, I agree but disagree.  If you are a team that is trying to grow so that you can compete on the national level then you would prefer to play someone at a higher caliber.  Don't get me wrong because it is always nice to make up for a loss but can I build my program by playing another NEFC team or by playing Ithaca like UMD did a few years ago?  It's great to have another game, win and/or championship but I think you get more (long term) out of the higher level competition.

Union, I don't think the player's expectations are low.  I think they believe that they have just as much of a chance as anyone.  Especially with good coaching! I think the fan base itself may feel that there is a limited chance but not the players.  I would say that the coaches, if polled would have a realistic view of what would need to happen for their team to win.  At this point a NEFC team would have to play a near perfect game to get a win in the NCAA's or against the better programs. 

The problem with the NEFC championship game is that it takes a lot out of the players and coaches, both physically and mentally.  Never mind the difference between full time staff's and part time staff's when it comes to game prep...in the post season.

My opinion!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2007, 10:48:23 PM
Most teams play Week 11 before the playoffs.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on September 14, 2007, 12:19:30 PM
picks:

Salve Regina   at Bridgewater St.  : BSC in a cake walk, 28-7     
Mass. Maritime   at Endicott      : EC rebounds (yeah gulls) 21- 3
Curry   at Westfield St.   Curry brings WSC back down to its real level 35-10   
Western New Eng.   at Maine Maritime   Maine at home is a good pick, prob a great game though, ME 28- 24   
Worcester St.   at Nichols     Nichols pulls the upset- 10-7 
Mass.-Dartmouth   at Fitchburg St.      Neither of these teams plays D, FSC wins 42-38
Coast Guard   at Plymouth St.       CGA is the class of the league, 45-21
Framingham St.   at MIT  People are really going to this game? for the 5 people there, FSC 12 MIT 14

GO Gulls
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 14, 2007, 05:02:16 PM
MIT over Framingham (DUH) Somethinge never change

EC over MMA - This could be a good one and mey show how EC will do this year

BSC all over SRU

WNEC back on the winning track  over MME

Worcester St. over Nichols. This could also show what Nichols has this year

Curry over Westfield. 

Fitchburg over UMD.  I still think UMD is rebuilding

USCGA easily over PSC

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on September 14, 2007, 05:23:44 PM
Quote from: D3 Fan on September 13, 2007, 09:46:58 PM
Pimpin, I agree but disagree.  If you are a team that is trying to grow so that you can compete on the national level then you would prefer to play someone at a higher caliber.  Don't get me wrong because it is always nice to make up for a loss but can I build my program by playing another NEFC team or by playing Ithaca like UMD did a few years ago?  It's great to have another game, win and/or championship but I think you get more (long term) out of the higher level competition.

Union, I don't think the player's expectations are low.  I think they believe that they have just as much of a chance as anyone.  Especially with good coaching! I think the fan base itself may feel that there is a limited chance but not the players.  I would say that the coaches, if polled would have a realistic view of what would need to happen for their team to win.  At this point a NEFC team would have to play a near perfect game to get a win in the NCAA's or against the better programs. 

The problem with the NEFC championship game is that it takes a lot out of the players and coaches, both physically and mentally.  Never mind the difference between full time staff's and part time staff's when it comes to game prep...in the post season.

My opinion!


D3, well stated....thanks for your thoughts.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 16, 2007, 12:18:49 PM
Looks like the NEFC is wide open for anyone to get the opportunity to play against Curry in the championship with what appears to be some surpise games this weekend.  PSC beating USCGA,  MMA beating EC, UMD rolling it up against Fitchburg, and SRU beaing BSC. 

Where is the EC offense.  Of course they moved the ball but then turned it over 5 times. Racking up yards doesn't count, racking up points count.  Curry appears to be the one to beat again.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on September 17, 2007, 06:33:44 AM
Ouch, Center is correct, anyone can take it this year appearently.  I got to see EC and they looked like they should win, but TO's are the equalizer. 
Bridgewater, where have you gone?  Congrats to Salve.  How about UMD.  THey announced the halftime score at the MMA EC game, 41-7 or something like that.  Wow. 
I am not sure how the Maine Wnec game went becasue I think it was in Maine so we are still waiting for the man do deliver the game notes via horseback.
Its gonna be a weird one this year.

Come back gulls.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 17, 2007, 11:53:06 AM
I hope Plymouth St and Curry are undefeated when they play.  That could be one heck of a game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on September 17, 2007, 12:01:31 PM
OK, not that it matters in the NEFC but did I read that right that Hartwick beat Ithaca??? 

63 and Gull, I agree! Either everyone is good or no one is good.(profound, I know)  Makes for a competitive league but what the....  One could assume that UMD would have some growing pains under a new staff and might turn things around but the rest of what happened last week could mean a changing of the guard in the NEFC.

Should be fun to watch!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on September 17, 2007, 12:50:59 PM
You want to add a little more to the confusion....Bridgewater blew out Plymouth State in their scrimmage a few weeks ago
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 17, 2007, 06:05:12 PM
This week's games could provide some good insight into how real last weekend's scores were.  PSC  at UMD shold be a great game if PSC is as good as they appear to be after beating USCGA last weekend.  Of course UMD needs to show that they can continue the way they played against BSC.   WNEC looked like they might go places in the NEFC this year in their opening game so let's eee how they stack up against the real talent in the league this weekend when Curry comes to town.  EC needs to snap out of it quickly or they might find themselves off to an 0-3 start and out of the running for the NEFC Boyd division title.  Looks like SRU is no longer an easy game. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jmags610 on September 17, 2007, 06:13:19 PM
Bridgewater did not blow out Plymouth State..the scrimmage was played as a real game for three quarters..at the end of those 3 quarters, the score was 17-14 bridgewater...once the younger players for both teams went in, bridgewater ran away with it
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 17, 2007, 07:38:31 PM
It was also a scrimmage, and the score of scrimmages is not publicized for a reason. It doesn't really mean anything. :)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: John McGraw on September 17, 2007, 08:16:44 PM
Quote from: jmags610 on September 17, 2007, 06:13:19 PM
Bridgewater did not blow out Plymouth State..the scrimmage was played as a real game for three quarters..at the end of those 3 quarters, the score was 17-14 bridgewater...once the younger players for both teams went in, bridgewater ran away with it

Can't imagine your coaches would want you posting on here.

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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 17, 2007, 08:51:35 PM
There is a reason we ask people to read the Terms of Service.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 18, 2007, 08:22:37 AM
Scrimmages don't mean much:  usually scrimmages are played under modified rules like 10 plays on offense then 10 plays on defense, no tackling the QB, no pick-offs or punts, no returns if they do kick.  They give the coaches an opportunity to see how certain plays work against opposition and they give the players a chance to hit someone other than a teammate.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on September 19, 2007, 11:56:17 AM
Good call McGraw...I'm an alumni now but even when I was a student I wasn't ignorant enough to use my school e-mail.

And as an alumni with people I know still on the team Bridgewaters starters put up 35 points and it was played like an actual game.  But I'll give you the point that it was still only a scrimmage.

Onto real football talk...
UMD has a great rushing attack and solid corners but their rushing D is suspect.  They're a good team but they need to control the clock.

To clarify about Salve is they did not win the game rather Bridgewater lost it.  The difference was turnovers, 0 against UMD and 5 against Salve.  The third td was also a fourth down toss to the end zone with two minutes left so the game was actually closer then the score indicated.

You have to think both CGA will get it together too because they are basically the same team as last year.

Overall this is the reason why division games are not played early in the NEFC season, it almost creates a 2 week preseason.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 22, 2007, 11:25:09 AM
OK here are my picks for this week.

BSC 30 MME 21  (BSC is out to show last week's loss was a fluke)

UMD 42 PSC 14 (PSC comes back down to earth after upsetting USCGA last week)

USCGA 21 Westfiel St. 18 (I think this will be a great game)

Curry 42 WNEC 10 (WNEC still has a ways to go to compete with Curry)

Fitchburg 50 Framingham 7 (Nothing needs to be said about this game)

Nichols 28 MIT 10

Worcester St 21  MMA 14  ( I just think WSC is better)

EC 24 SRU 14 (EC better right their season quickly and address the turnover situation or it could be a long season)

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: coach21 on September 22, 2007, 06:02:47 PM
"Fitchburg 50 Framingham 7 (Nothing needs to be said about this game)"

Team's might not want to over look Framingham anymore after they easily beat Fitchburgh. The Falcons made it look close with a late TD. See what happens when you get a coach that knows about football.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 23, 2007, 08:11:26 AM
WOW, Framingham State over Fitchburg.  Congrats to Framingham for apparently not being the NEFC door mat anymore.  What has happened to Fitchburg, lost to SRU last week and Framingham this week?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 23, 2007, 09:08:56 AM
Wheres Sully?  Id love to hear his thoughts on the matter.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: coach21 on September 23, 2007, 11:20:29 AM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on September 23, 2007, 09:08:56 AM
Wheres Sully?  Id love to hear his thoughts on the matter.

I'm right here....New screen name. I'm not at Fram. anymore so I don't have as much contact with the team anymore but I talked to a couple players last week and the program is 10x better under coach Kelly. Sully had no clue how to coach during games and motivate players that was his problem.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: coach21 on September 23, 2007, 11:42:42 AM
Well not the real sully but the former sullymustgo......i have no idea where sully is these days. Probably running a decent highschool program into the ground.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 23, 2007, 12:26:04 PM
Quote from: coach21 on September 23, 2007, 11:42:42 AM
Well not the real sully but the former sullymustgo......i have no idea where sully is these days. Probably running a decent highschool program into the ground.

thats funny.  But Framingham has the potential to be one of the top state programs if they get the right coaches there.  Its the closest to Boston, and the academics are taking a huge step in the right direction now.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on September 23, 2007, 09:00:10 PM
That has to be one of the worst losses in Fitch recent history.  For the last 5 or so years they have been good, what happened?  Did a lot of people figure out the scemes?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 24, 2007, 05:13:57 AM
Quote from: 63Center on September 22, 2007, 11:25:09 AM
OK here are my picks for this week.

BSC 30 MME 21  (BSC is out to show last week's loss was a fluke)

UMD 42 PSC 14 (PSC comes back down to earth after upsetting USCGA last week)

USCGA 21 Westfiel St. 18 (I think this will be a great game)

Curry 42 WNEC 10 (WNEC still has a ways to go to compete with Curry)

Fitchburg 50 Framingham 7 (Nothing needs to be said about this game)

Nichols 28 MIT 10

Worcester St 21  MMA 14  ( I just think WSC is better)

EC 24 SRU 14 (EC better right their season quickly and address the turnover situation or it could be a long season)


Quote from: 63Center on September 22, 2007, 11:25:09 AM
OK here are my picks for this week.

BSC 30 MME 21  (BSC is out to show last week's loss was a fluke)

UMD 42 PSC 14 (PSC comes back down to earth after upsetting USCGA last week)

USCGA 21 Westfiel St. 18 (I think this will be a great game)

Curry 42 WNEC 10 (WNEC still has a ways to go to compete with Curry)

Fitchburg 50 Framingham 7 (Nothing needs to be said about this game)

Nichols 28 MIT 10

Worcester St 21  MMA 14  ( I just think WSC is better)

EC 24 SRU 14 (EC better right their season quickly and address the turnover situation or it could be a long season)


63 center did you see the UMD game ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 24, 2007, 06:40:03 AM
Nolineglory, No I did not see the UMD game.  Thise were just my picks which lately have not been too good.  Looks like some power shift is going on in the NEFC, except for Curry.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 24, 2007, 07:31:49 AM
fitchburg is clearly not the team we all remember... was at the BSC vs Maine Maritime game and BSC looked very strong... i dont think a power shift is occuring to say...i just think fitchburg is on a down year... and plymouth st is rising
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: coach21 on September 24, 2007, 09:49:14 AM
Quote from: gullgrad on September 23, 2007, 09:00:10 PM
That has to be one of the worst losses in Fitch recent history.  For the last 5 or so years they have been good, what happened?  Did a lot of people figure out the scemes?

Actually Fitchburgh's worst loss was in 2000 when UMass Boston ended their 20 somethin game losing streak by beating them 9-7.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: coachzilly on September 24, 2007, 09:53:34 AM
Coach Sullivan is now the D-Coordinator @ Worcester State, who happen to play Framingham this week.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 24, 2007, 09:36:23 PM
i think framingham might have the edge in thier game against worcester this week then... maybe they will have a lil extra fire ... i think worcester is the more talented team but talent does not always prevail
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: currygrad on September 25, 2007, 02:19:38 PM
I think Curry has again separated themselves from the rest of the NEFC. They easily handled WNEC saturday. And based on looking at scores around the league there seems to be parity amongst the rest. Does anyone know what happened with Endicotts offense. after scoring an anemic 3 pts. against a not so very strong Mass Maritime defense they score 43 against Salve who held Bridgewater to 6 the previous week. ( WHAT WAS THE TRANSFORMATION )?? and should we expect it to continue.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 25, 2007, 02:21:24 PM
Welcome aboard -- we need more Curry posters and NEFC posters in general.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: currygrad on September 25, 2007, 02:26:11 PM
Thanks for the welcome should I expect other NEFC posters to respond?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 25, 2007, 02:36:38 PM
first thing first currygrad...bridgewater st played down to the level of salve regina...i think bridgewater had 5 turnovers in the game and salve had 0...any time a team wins a turnover differential of that great margin they usually are defeated... i still think bridgewater makes it to the nefc champ. game... to be honest i dont think endicott will continually explode on offense...they have struggled in previous weeks and i dont think they will continue this offensive output in games to come
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: currygrad on September 25, 2007, 03:21:42 PM
No need to be so sensative Boxer. I did not think that Salve was better than Bridgewater. I just used that as an example of parity and the fact that Endicott transformed offensively. I am still wondering if anyone knows of any reason that may have jumped started there offense. Curry plays them on Oct. 13 and I was just wondering what to expect?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 25, 2007, 03:33:01 PM
You can expect it to be the D3Cast/D3football East Region Game of the Week. :)

http://www.d3football.com/d3cast

But I don't have a real answer, no.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: labart96 on September 25, 2007, 03:37:49 PM
Any NEFC fans willing to provide commentary on WPI?  So far they've played mostly NE based teams but will take on Hobart this week in LL play.

Kickoff mentioned that they returned 15 starters including their 3 WRs, leading rusher and 3 yr starting QB.  Sounds like their offense can put up some points.

Thoughts?

Wish I could be in Woostah this weekend.  I've heard it's wicked dood.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 25, 2007, 04:50:38 PM
currygrad, i dont think you have anyting to worry about, your team is too strong up the middle to run on with that kid pinto... and your offense is too big for endicott..from what i heard endicott even struggled with framingham in their scrimmage at the beginning of the year
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 25, 2007, 06:15:29 PM
 what about Plymouth State U , they gave curry a game last year? any comments ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 25, 2007, 06:53:29 PM
Quote from: The Great Pumpkin on September 25, 2007, 03:37:49 PM
Any NEFC fans willing to provide commentary on WPI?  So far they've played mostly NE based teams but will take on Hobart this week in LL play.

Kickoff mentioned that they returned 15 starters including their 3 WRs, leading rusher and 3 yr starting QB.  Sounds like their offense can put up some points.

Thoughts?

Wish I could be in Woostah this weekend.  I've heard it's wicked dood.

You can watch it on the D3Cast/D3football.com East Region Game of the Week. :)

http://www.d3football.com/d3cast
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: labart96 on September 25, 2007, 07:29:57 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 25, 2007, 06:53:29 PM
Quote from: The Great Pumpkin on September 25, 2007, 03:37:49 PM
Any NEFC fans willing to provide commentary on WPI?  So far they've played mostly NE based teams but will take on Hobart this week in LL play.

Kickoff mentioned that they returned 15 starters including their 3 WRs, leading rusher and 3 yr starting QB.  Sounds like their offense can put up some points.

Thoughts?

Wish I could be in Woostah this weekend.  I've heard it's wicked dood.

You can watch it on the D3Cast/D3football.com East Region Game of the Week. :)

http://www.d3football.com/d3cast

Excellent!  Are McGraw and Ren on the call? 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: currygrad on September 26, 2007, 01:16:41 PM
I just recently found this site and posted hoping to get some NEFC chatter. I have to admit I love when Curry woopsup on Endicott. So comeon Gulls since you do not compete with us on the field at least respond here.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 26, 2007, 01:17:29 PM
Quote from: The Great Pumpkin on September 25, 2007, 07:29:57 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 25, 2007, 06:53:29 PM
Quote from: The Great Pumpkin on September 25, 2007, 03:37:49 PM
Any NEFC fans willing to provide commentary on WPI?  So far they've played mostly NE based teams but will take on Hobart this week in LL play.

Kickoff mentioned that they returned 15 starters including their 3 WRs, leading rusher and 3 yr starting QB.  Sounds like their offense can put up some points.

Thoughts?

Wish I could be in Woostah this weekend.  I've heard it's wicked dood.

You can watch it on the D3Cast/D3football.com East Region Game of the Week. :)

http://www.d3football.com/d3cast

Excellent!  Are McGraw and Ren on the call? 

Clicking on the link I sent would be helpful in that regard.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: labart96 on September 26, 2007, 02:34:21 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 26, 2007, 01:17:29 PM
Quote from: The Great Pumpkin on September 25, 2007, 07:29:57 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 25, 2007, 06:53:29 PM
Quote from: The Great Pumpkin on September 25, 2007, 03:37:49 PM
Any NEFC fans willing to provide commentary on WPI?  So far they've played mostly NE based teams but will take on Hobart this week in LL play.

Kickoff mentioned that they returned 15 starters including their 3 WRs, leading rusher and 3 yr starting QB.  Sounds like their offense can put up some points.

Thoughts?

Wish I could be in Woostah this weekend.  I've heard it's wicked dood.

You can watch it on the D3Cast/D3football.com East Region Game of the Week. :)

http://www.d3football.com/d3cast

Excellent!  Are McGraw and Ren on the call? 

Clicking on the link I sent would be helpful in that regard.

Right.  Didn't occur to me to click on the link until right before kickoff Saturday.

Thx Pat!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on September 26, 2007, 02:53:15 PM
I think people should be careful not to sleep on UMD either.  I mean they gave both Bridgewater and Plymouth a run for their money.  And don't forget the nation's second leading rusher and probably NEFC offensive player of the year J.T. Harold.  That's an upset alert to any team they're playing.  My advice get a big lead early and take him out of the game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 26, 2007, 04:51:09 PM
Currygrad,  EC's offense showed up for the MMA game, but turned the ball over 5 time, three times in the red zone.  Against SRU they had no turnovers.  BSC turned the ball over 5 times against SRU and therefore lost that game so it is simply a matter of hanging onto the ball.  Also the usual starting QB for EC did not play agaist SRU due to an injury.  I am not sure how long he will be out.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 26, 2007, 05:51:52 PM
 yes indeed JT is quite a RB , I was checking out his stats YTD
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 26, 2007, 09:09:57 PM
it seems no team can stop JT harold, the best way is to beat him is what pimpin gold said...get a big lead and make UMD throw the ball...it will be interesting to see how he does against Curry and thier defensive front... the real question is who is better Coast Guard's QB or JT Harold?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: currygrad on September 27, 2007, 12:08:50 AM
63center,   I guess the QB who threw up 3 pts. against MMA is out injured. The QB that played against Salve put 43 on the board. I guess we should hope the QB that played against MMA is healthy by October 13th.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 27, 2007, 06:16:14 PM
Currygrad how do you think PSU will do against Curry this year ? any predictions ??
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: currygrad on September 27, 2007, 09:13:55 PM
nolinenoglory, Curry will crush salve, then MIT before they play Endicott and Plymouth State. Endicott plays Plymouth state the week before Curry. I think the Curry Plymouth State game result will have alot to do with how the result of Plymouth State/ Endicott, and Curry/Endicott. My prediction is Endicott beats Plymouth State then Curry beats Endicott then Curry beats Plymouth State. ANY OPINIONS ANYONE?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 28, 2007, 05:15:00 AM
 Currygrad not to sure with those predicts Plymouth has a score to settle with both of those teams . Again time will tell . just my opinion though .
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 28, 2007, 05:03:04 PM
Currygrad, I would agree with your prediction of EC over PSU and Curry over both EC and PSU.  I think the EC and PSU game will be the closest of those contests. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 28, 2007, 05:08:37 PM
 Like I said time will tell
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 28, 2007, 05:10:38 PM
Now for my picks for this week:

Curry 52 SRU 0  (sorry SRU, I think your win over BSC was luck and your luck ran out).

EC 28 Nichols 14 (depending on which EC team shows up this could be a lot closer).

Worcester 21  Framingham 14 (I am not convienced on Framingham yet)

USCGA 30 MMA 14  (CGA has a good offense)

Westfield 28  MME 21

PSU 20  WNEC 18 (This should be a great game, if both teams are for real)

BSC 35 Fitchburg 21

UMD 42 MIT 7  (I think UMD is starting to jell)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 28, 2007, 05:14:35 PM
 no bad picks but I don't think Curry will shut down Salve like that  48-28
just my opinion
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 28, 2007, 08:10:46 PM
currygrad, i think plymouth will beat endicott, and plymouth vs curry will be a very close battle... here are the picks for this week

Curry 44 Salve 6 - Curry is too good

Nichols 22 - EC 8 - I think nichols is going to pull off the upset here

Framingham 21 - Worcester 18 - framingham will win playing against sully

USCGA 31- MMA 10 - CGA has too much talent on both sides

Westfield 12 - MME 6 - i think westfields d stops the run all day

BSC 42 - Fitchburg 21 - Fitchburg is the worst team in the conference

UMD 35 - MIT 10- J.T. Harold goes for over 200 in this blowout

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 28, 2007, 08:12:01 PM
i forgot

Plymouth State 35 - WNEC 12 - i think plymouth is alot better then people think
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 28, 2007, 11:58:28 PM
now that is realistic picks ...still think salve will put up some points . they have a kid that can kick some three's if need be .they seem to be better than last year . Curry still is the team to beat this year , it will happen .
just my opinoin
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Touchdown23 on September 29, 2007, 12:54:18 PM
Nichols vs. Endicott is being shown live on Endicott's website. Nichols jumped out to a early 7-0 lead following a blocked punt. Could be a good finish...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Touchdown23 on September 29, 2007, 02:44:17 PM
Big win for Nichols today. Robert Morris and the Nichols defense took the game over in the second half.  Is Endicott down this year, or does Nichols have that much young talent?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 29, 2007, 03:19:35 PM
dont want to brag or ne thing but i called that nicholls vs endicott game haha ;D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 29, 2007, 07:44:09 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on September 28, 2007, 08:10:46 PM
currygrad, i think plymouth will beat endicott, and plymouth vs curry will be a very close battle... here are the picks for this week

Curry 44 Salve 6 - Curry is too good

Nichols 22 - EC 8 - I think nichols is going to pull off the upset here

Framingham 21 - Worcester 18 - framingham will win playing against sully

USCGA 31- MMA 10 - CGA has too much talent on both sides

Westfield 12 - MME 6 - i think westfields d stops the run all day

BSC 42 - Fitchburg 21 - Fitchburg is the worst team in the conference

UMD 35 - MIT 10- J.T. Harold goes for over 200 in this blowout



not bad Boxer.. JT only 107 rushing  against MIT

                         ****** FINALS *********

Curry 38-  Salve- 7

Nichols 28 - Edicott 14

Worcester 36 - Framingham 29 (OT) good job Sully

Coast Guard 3 - Mass Maritime 0

Maine Maritime 21 -Westfield 14

BSC 45 - Fitchburg 31

UMD 49 - MIT 14  ( JT 107 yds )

Plymouth 49 - 29
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 29, 2007, 08:47:39 PM
framingham at worcester was the game of the day... kid junkins from fram. had 4 sacks ...seemed like framingham controlled the game most of the day up 14-0 at half, but had some key turnovers and worcester too advantage...great game tho, maybe fram. is alot better then ppl think...plymouth st is going to give Curry a run for thier money, that is a solid football team...JT let me down today only 107 but they won handily...any other thoughts for this week?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 30, 2007, 09:51:52 AM
  OK .........

Boxer & 63 , you both went 6 for 8 on your games NICE JOB !

So what do you guys have this week ?????
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on September 30, 2007, 10:54:38 AM
Thanks nolinenoglory.  I wait until Friday to make my pickes, but I can tell you it is getting tough to pick the games this year.  I have been doing these picks on this website for 6 years now and this year there appears to be so much parity that picking is tough.  Maybe that is why there are not as many posting of picks like there were a few years ago.  There used to be about 6 people picking every week, no just two.  Right now though, I am looking at PSU over EC.  I don't know what is going on with EC as I thought they would be better this year.  USCGA is not doing as well as I expected and Framingham is doing much better than I expected.  I didn't know how UMD would do but they appear to be playing pretty good.  BSC and Fitchburg appear to be down a little this year. Worcester and Westfield are about where they have been the last few years.  I thought WNEC might be slightly better than they have shown so far.  So I think that PSU and Curry will meet in the championship game.  Stay tuned to my picks on Friday.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on October 01, 2007, 10:58:44 AM
Except for one little probably is that it is impossible for two teams in the same division to meet in the conference championship.  So I think it will be Curry and BSC.

Also I don't know about Bridgewater having a down year after rushing the ball for 470 yards on 69 carries...with their starting running back out in the third quarter mind you.  Who needs to pass when the same play works 69 times in a game.

The thing I'm wondering about it is CGA because MMA played keep away most of the game from what i read so that makes you wonder about CGA's rush defense.  Anyone see the game???

On to Endicott who has had at least 3 losses in every season the played, I'll give credit where credit is due because of their scheduling but they were never this great team that people are making them out to be, they had a couple good years is how i look at it.

Now on to Fitchburg...they had two good years when they had one of the nastiest defenses in the conference.  Problem was unless they were playing Framingham they didn't have the offense to match.  Now they have a swiss cheese defense and high power passing attack, but you can't win if you can't stop anyone.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 01, 2007, 05:31:22 PM
 not to sound like a pesimist( check sp )
has Curry played a team yet with a winning record yet ....just my opinion
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 01, 2007, 05:39:31 PM
Curry has not but at the same time there is alot more parity in this leauge...i truly believe any team can beat ne one on any given day... but plymouth st and curry are the two best teams in the leauge...i think BSC will win the bogan because Coast Guard seems alot weaker even though they have alot of thier offense returning
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 03, 2007, 05:17:44 AM
Quote from: nefc1264 on August 22, 2005, 07:44:03 PM
Bogan
Fitchburg State
Bridgewater St.
Worcester St
Westfield
Framingham St
MA Maritime
ME Maritime

Boyd
Curry
Endicott
UMD
Nichols
WNEC
Salve Regina
MIT

Have to put Curry #1 because of what they have done the last few years and they should still be the strongest team in the Boyd.

looking back over these posts from 2005 things really haven't changed much . where do you slot CGA & PSU .  Things don't change , they just look different
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 03, 2007, 10:35:59 AM
things have changed greatly, fitchburg is prolly the worst team in the bogan division right now... and coast guard is prolly top dog on the bogan side...also westfied is at the bottom of the pack in the bogan... the only difference in the boyd is plymouth state at the top of the division more so than endicott who i think is one of the weaker teams in the boyd this year
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on October 03, 2007, 04:04:28 PM
I wouldn't say Coast Guard is exactly the top dog.  I mean seriously they barely beat Bridgewater 21-17 the first time last year and got beat 34-17 in the ECAC game. 

Bridgewater also returned 16 starters only 4 of which are seniors and they had one early season stumble.  Is that not allowed by a young team???

On that note I think the game to see again this year in the Bogan has to be be BSC vs. CGA, and I'll definitely be there for it.

In the Boyd the game to see as of now is Curry vs. PSU.  Word to the wise though don't sleep on an angry Endicott who have shown the ability to score points and Curry better beware J.T. Harold and the Umass rushing attack the final week of the season as Plymouth already found out.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 03, 2007, 05:47:33 PM
 There !!!!!!!!!! controversy I love it !!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 03, 2007, 07:08:59 PM
after thinking about it i have to agree and end the controversy, i believe BSC is the top dog and not Coast Guard, it seems to me Coast Guard's play has taken a step down this year and minus that horrific loss to Salve, BSC seems to be getting better each week... good test for Framingham this week lets see if they can stay with a quality football team like BSC...they should of won last week against Worcester who made a valiant comeback be nice to see if Framingham could sneak up on another opponnet who has embarrassed them in the past
Title: Re: New England Football Conference (Friday Picks)
Post by: Findtheball on October 04, 2007, 05:19:04 AM
   63 & Boxer can't wait ...one more day...Friday picks ... no pressure !
   Both went 6 for 8 last week..yee haa
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 04, 2007, 10:46:07 AM
OK, just because nolinenoglory asked for the picks, I am giving my picks a day early this week:

BSC 24 Framingham 18 - I give the edge to BSC as home team.

Curry 48 MIT 0 - No contest

UMD 28 WNEC 14 - I thought WNEC would be better this year, but they have not shown me anything yet, plus it is at UMD.  This should be a good game though.

Worcester St. 21 MME 10 - I just think Worsester is the better team

Westfield 24 MMA 14 - This could be closer, but I still go with Westfield

Nichols 30 SRU 10 - Nichols is looking good right now and they are at home

PSU 21 EC 10 - EC is struggling this year.  The game is at PSU and PSU is playing some great FB right now. 

OK, there you have it.  Let's see if I can improve on the 75% from last week.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 04, 2007, 11:30:51 AM
This is for you Nolineglory

BSC 38 Framingham 21 - two very young teams... BSC has the edge in talent

Curry 35 MIT 14 - MIT will keep it close for a little bit...nothing has gone there way this year

WNEC 31 UMD 27 -  both teams defense ranks at the bottom of the NEFC... WNEC holds JT just enough and thier passing attack prevails in a shootout

Worcester 24 MME 20 - it will be a close game but after the scare against Framingham last week Worcester wins this game... Worcester played awesome against the run last week too

Nichols 28 - SRU 6 - Nicholls is the sleeper of the entire conference, but yet to play thier meat of the schedule

PSU - 35 EC 10 - Plymouth St will grind it out on the ground and continue to run up and down the field on opponnets

Its going to come down to teh WNEC UMD game to see who has the better picks this week
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 04, 2007, 11:35:10 AM
maybe nolineglory or currygrad or coach21 (fmr sullymustgo) can put up some posts or predictions for this week and upcoming weeks...get some chatter on this board... and Johnny Utah becuase i think he is the NEFC rep for the East region poll...maybe we can get his insight on this board a lil more often as well
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: coach21 on October 04, 2007, 11:41:06 AM
Framingham 27  BSC 24

Curry 34 MIT 7

UMD 21 WNEC 14

Worcester St. 31 MME 6

Westfield 17 MMA 13

Nichols 24 SRU 14

PSU 28 EC 14
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 04, 2007, 11:59:22 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 04, 2007, 11:35:10 AM
maybe nolineglory or currygrad or coach21 (fmr sullymustgo) can put up some posts or predictions for this week and upcoming weeks...get some chatter on this board... and Johnny Utah becuase i think he is the NEFC rep for the East region poll...maybe we can get his insight on this board a lil more often as well

Yea Id love to but Ive only seen one game live this year.  Ill make some predictions later though.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 04, 2007, 01:29:47 PM
coach 21 with the upset special with Framingham beating BSC... i like that... utah what game did you see live this year...?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 04, 2007, 03:15:16 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 04, 2007, 01:29:47 PM
coach 21 with the upset special with Framingham beating BSC... i like that... utah what game did you see live this year...?

Actually it was a Mt. Ida game (Norwich).

But I just looked at the Husson roster....Hmmmm, things are fishy there.  I smell a Mt. Ida 1999 all over again.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on October 04, 2007, 03:27:14 PM
Ask and you shall receive:

BSC: 30    Framingham: 12  Framingham has hit the win quota for the year

UMD: 18   WNEC: 10     WNEC needs to turn it around, but not this week

Curry: 49   MIT: 6    I'll be nice and give MIT 6

Worcester State:  35   MME: 14    Not too sure about either team, but I'll give it a shot

Nichols:  35    Salve:  7   Salve hasn't had the greatest D lately

USCGA:  28      Fitchburg: 0    Coast Guard is starting to come around

PSU:  21       Endicott: 10      ECs defense will keep them in this game


We'll see if I have any luck this week
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 04, 2007, 07:12:16 PM
 Here goes...........

BSC 24 -------------Framingham 21 (there in every game )

Curry 28------------MIT 14 ( big thinkers on this team )

WNEC 28-----------UMass 27 ( JT 150yds ... WNEC wins on flats )

Worchester 23----MME 21 (parity )

Nichols 27----------SRU 19 ( 4 field goals )

PSU 38--------------Endicott 28 ( game of the week )

MMA 17-------------Westfield 14 ( Westfield runs outta steam )

First timer lets see how I do (  NLNG )
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 05, 2007, 05:21:54 AM
Sorry , I forgot a game .

Coast Guard 21------Fitchburg 7




Lets push this page to 100 pages by the weekend ...............

Little chatter now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 05, 2007, 07:58:17 AM
It is great to see so many readers putting their picks on here.  I am not sure why Utah has to see a game to make picks.  After all this is just for fun, we aren't in Vegas, baby.  I have made picks on here for years without seeing teams play (maybe that explains some of my picks).  Anyway, come on Utah and join the party, give us your picks. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on October 05, 2007, 11:01:31 AM
I can try and pick winners but I don't know about scores so we'll see how this go's the for the first time.....

Curry:  42   MIT:  14 one early and one late to make them feel good about themselves     

Bridgewater:  42   Framingham:  14 Bridgewater will control the clock and keep Framingham's passing attack off the field

UMass:  35   WNEC:  17  speaking of rushing attacks J.T. Harold (150 and 3)

Nichols:  28   Salve Regina:  14  Salve decides to show up but Nichols is the better team

MME:  21   Worcester:  14  Maine shows that there are only two teams in the Bogan

MMA:  7  Westfield:  3  MMA beat Endicott and held CGA to 3, who knows?!?     

Plymouth:  28  Endicott:  21  an angry Gulls teams makes it look closer then it should be

CGA:  35   Fitchburg:  28  the defenses stay at home
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 05, 2007, 11:15:42 AM
OK, I count 6 people making picks this week.  Can we try for 10, and as NoLineNoGlory said try to hit page 100?  Let's show these other conferences, that the NEFC is no pushover (at least not on PostPatterns).
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on October 05, 2007, 11:26:13 AM
Alright my childhood s/n wasn't cutting it as a display name so I figured as an alumni I'd fly my colors with a little more mature display name...formerly known as pimpingold

--Just a small stat for ya NLNG, you might wanna take out the 4 field goal prediction

FIELD GOALS     FGM-FGA  Pct   01-19   20-29   30-39   40-49   50-99   Lg   Blk
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Tim Varney          0-1        0.0      0-0       0-1      0-0       0-0        0-0      0    1
Matt Capone       1-3      33.3      0-0       1-1      0-2       0-0        0-0    22    0
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on October 05, 2007, 02:23:50 PM
I have missed the last few, on vacation with the fam. I'll try to jump back in here and get EC some karma.

Curry 41   MIT 7 a late MIT touchdown is all they can muster.     
Framingham St.  17 Bridgewater St. 28 BSC seems to be on their game now     
Western New Eng. 12  Mass.-Dartmouth  28 UMD's rushing game should do well (as they do every week)     
Salve Regina 21  Nichols 20 THis one is a toss up.     
Worcester St.  12  Maine Maritime 21  WSC seems to always have trouble up there.     
Mass. Maritime 14  Westfield St.  21 No idea or data to support this     
Endicott 10  Plymouth St.  28- my gulls just don't have it this year.   
Fitchburg St. 31  Coast Guard 52 FSC's o is good, but their D is worse than coast guards.

Go Gulls!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 05, 2007, 06:46:35 PM
its great to see some posters here making picks...if we could keep up the chatter in this post patterns it would be great... it seems like the game of the week is going to be WNEC vs UMD with most picks being split ... lets see if we can get this page up to 100
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 05, 2007, 06:48:03 PM
i was also thinking if we could get at least all 6 of the same guys together every week to make picks even more if we could... and see who can pick the most winners throughout the week... something to spice up the page a lil bit get more posts on here
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 05, 2007, 07:49:49 PM
  I'm not sure if I can keep up with the "BIG BOYS"

X = BOXER

O = Center

I'll try though

NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 05, 2007, 07:51:00 PM


GOOD LUCK ALL TOMMORROW !!!!!!!!!!!!1
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on October 06, 2007, 01:15:52 PM
Curry 28   MIT 20 at halftime. I don't think anyone would have guessed that
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on October 06, 2007, 02:50:05 PM
I guess Curry read your post at half time...52-20 final
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 06, 2007, 08:19:22 PM
 well I got 5 outta 8 , not so good .
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 07, 2007, 10:15:00 AM
 Man oh man

coast guard putting up 58 pts ..... OUCH

curry putting  up 52........ 30 some in the 2nd half ...... ouch

are the offenses this year that much better than last year or are the coaches just keeping the first string in all game . Maybe I'm wrong but it seems there are alot of points being put on the board this year . PSU had 49 last week.

I was very surprised to see the score of UMASS > WNEC , I really thought it would be a closer game or was it ? I didn't see it . Was JT his normal self or did WNEC have alot of penalties .

I did get to see the PSU > EC game though .  Alot of penalties against EC in the first half , PSU had alot in the second . On one drive EC only had 12 yard of thier own to march down the field and score . The rest were penalty yards . Crazy game . PSU looks real tough with the run . EC had alot of passes dropped , trying to play catch up.

Good game though. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 07, 2007, 12:19:19 PM
It was a good week for those making their picks on here.  Here is how everyone did on their picks:

Boxer, In The Mix, Gr8Day2BaBear, 63Center were all 6-1.  Most had picked Worcester St. over MME.

Coach21 was 5-2

NoLineNoGlory was 4-3.  Off to a rough start or looking for some upsets.

Let's see how everyone does net week.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 07, 2007, 01:27:57 PM
I don't know how you come up with 4-3 ,when I picked  8 games not  7
all you other guys only picked  7 . Am i missing something ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 07, 2007, 01:57:31 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 07, 2007, 01:27:57 PM
I don't know how you come up with 4-3 ,when I picked  8 games not  7
all you other guys only picked  7 . Am i missing something ?



******************* correction******************
GULL......GR8.............& myself picked 8 games

BOXER  picked 6 games

They rest picked 7 games
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 07, 2007, 02:36:20 PM
maine maritime impressive with their win over worcester... the offense in the leauge is out of control...Coast Guard had 3 pts last week adn 58 this week wow...game of the day was Bridgewater vs framingham... framingham is very young and seems to be playin well with the big boys ...be interesting to see how they do the next couple weeks against some of the teams lower in the division... and UMD killin WNEC didnt see that coming JT player of the year
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 07, 2007, 02:42:50 PM
NoLineNoGlory,  you are right, I can't count any better than I can pick the teams.  So on a recount I come up with the following:

Gr8Day2BaBear 7-1 (congrats)

Gull Grad 6-2

In The Mix and 63Center 6-1

Coach21 5-2

NoLineNoGlory 5-3

Boxer 4-2
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 07, 2007, 06:34:41 PM
 Looking into next weeks games

This looks like a  tough week to pick

a lot of very even games if I don't say

then again the week after looks as intense.

It doesn't look like we'll hit the 100 page mark this week.

Everyone have a good week , look forward to this,  next weeks picks.

                  NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on October 08, 2007, 10:42:53 AM
The Bridgewater vs. Framingham game wasn't as good as the score looked.  After an opening kickoff return BSC scored a touchdown and Framingham once again returned that kickoff for a touchdown.  On top of that Bridgewater missed 3 extra points and a field goal.  If special teams didn't do that the game wouldn't have been close because Framingham couldn't move the ball.  But you know what they say as long as you win 2/3 aspects of the game you usually come out with the win.

I didn't see the Coast Guard vs. Fitchburg game but from the boxscore and press release it looked like Fitchburg's defense was just that bad.  Coast Guard had 8 different players carry the ball and 7 different players with receptions so they must have put some of the backups in.  Plus it was homecoming some i'm sure they let people play with that lead.

As for my picks like I said I can pick winners but I can't pick scores.  And to make it easier on everyone just copy and paste from here to make sure you have the right amount of picks http://www.newenglandfootballconference.com/schedule.html
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 08, 2007, 03:33:15 PM
Fitchburg D is awful i think they are dead last in the leauge in almost every major D category... and they are last in each by a considerable margin... huge games this week in both sides of the divisions with BSC (4-1, 3-0) against Coast Guard (4-1, 3-0) and Nicholls (4-1, 3-0) vs Plymouth State (5-0, 3-0) ... coast guard vs bsc will likely determine the winner of the boyd while i think the winner of nicholls vs PSU will just make their upcoming games against Curry have extra value
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 08, 2007, 06:28:49 PM
 x are you saying either Nichols or PSU has a chance to knock Curry of it's PEDESTAL  ........

Is that what your saying ................

I heard it here first !!!!!!!!!!!!!

                         NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: currygrad on October 09, 2007, 10:24:37 AM
nolinenoglory, I was also up at Plymouth State saturday vs.EC. Plymouth got the ball back on three critical 4th down plays to set up scores because of penalties when they were lining up to punt. 2 for 12 men on the field and 1 for roughing the kicker. completely changed the complexion of the game. Also EC dropped 3 TD passes. and fumbled after a catch and run inside the 5 yd. line. Plymouth is 5-0 but I think EC has a better chance of beating Curry than Plymouth State does. I have not seen Nichols so I will reserve comment. I really like the EC QB. ( MAKES PLAYS ) do you know anything about him? I will be at Curry Saturday night for the game. GO COLONELS!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: coach21 on October 09, 2007, 12:27:41 PM
Quote from: Gr8Day2BaBear on October 08, 2007, 10:42:53 AM
The Bridgewater vs. Framingham game wasn't as good as the score looked.  After an opening kickoff return BSC scored a touchdown and Framingham once again returned that kickoff for a touchdown.  On top of that Bridgewater missed 3 extra points and a field goal.  If special teams didn't do that the game wouldn't have been close because Framingham couldn't move the ball.  But you know what they say as long as you win 2/3 aspects of the game you usually come out with the win.


To say the game wasn't as good as the score showed doesn't make sense because special teams is part of the game. If Bridgewater lets up 2 Kickoff returns for TD's then how is that a knock against Framingham? And if the Kicker misses extra points and a field goal then the kicker is obviously not that good. So you're saying that if Bridgewater had better players on Kickoff and a better Kicker they would have smoked Framingham? Well they don't have those players. That's like if the Cowboys said o we would have destroyed Buffalo if we didn't throw 5 INT's. Well guess what they did throw 5 INTs. Picks aren't part of the game?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 09, 2007, 05:47:32 PM
Kernal grad (SP) ,

So what your saying is your scared of EC or PSU beating your team who hasn't even played a team with a winning record . Is that what it's all about. Yeah special teams are 1/3 of your game , if they can't preform than it's any given Sunday. It will be nice to see EC then PSU knock Curry down 2 pegs . You know what I mean. I can't wait !
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fan of d3 on October 09, 2007, 05:51:28 PM
I believe special teams are 1/3 of all teams gameplans...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 09, 2007, 05:52:08 PM
EC nor Curry will knock down Curry any pegs...Curry is by far the best team in this conference... Plymouth is better than Nicholls but it will still be a good game... a tough stretch for curry the next couple weeks with EC then Plymouth then Nicholls...see what they are made of...if they win those games it wil be interesting to see if the east fan poll will move them up and give them some respect
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 09, 2007, 05:55:08 PM
i also agree with coach 21 on the framingham vs bsc game...it was a good game no matter the stats..the second half was very evenly matched... still BSC is a better team and there game against coast guard will determine the bogan... but its nice to see that framingham is closing the gap in talent after some dismal years
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 09, 2007, 05:56:55 PM
Answer me this .........

Has Curry played anyone.....anyone with a winning record YET ????
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 09, 2007, 06:00:27 PM
 Yes Currygrad I have to agree ...the EC QB looked good but so did  the other guys QB ....Both teams are hungry
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 09, 2007, 07:23:24 PM
EC seems to be struggling this year to hang onto the ball.   Here is the turnover stats for EC so far this season:

Against RPI - 3 turnovers (1 Int, 2 fumbles)
Against MMA - 5 turnovers (1 Int, 4 fumbles)
Against SRU - 2 turnovers (2 Int)
Against Nichols - 3 turnovers (1 Int, 2 fumbles)
Against PSU - 2 turnovers (1 Int, 1 fumble)

Couple the turnover with the penalty yards in the last three games (75, 62, 64), it eplains why they are 1-4 this year.  EC won a lot of games in the past with ball control.  Turnovers and penalties will kill you in close games like MMA, Nichols, and PSU.   Without those turnovers, EC could be looking at a 4-1 record.  If they expect to beat Curry they will certainly need to hang onto the ball and keep it out of Curry's hands.

CGA appears to have found their offense, which should make for a good game against BSC.

I think PSU has a slightly better team than Nichols.  PSU has beatedn CGA and UMD while Nichols seems to have struggled to beat MIT and lost to Worcester State.  In competition agsint the same opponent (EC) they appeared to be about equal (PSU 28-17, Nichols 28-14).  This should be the game of the week in the NEFC.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 09, 2007, 07:29:00 PM
No mention of Plymouth State on the front page? Figured the NEFC board would be all over it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Dudley Hill on October 09, 2007, 11:38:57 PM
Nice article on PS. It's good to see the NEFC get some lead story time.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on October 10, 2007, 12:34:17 PM
Coach,
I'm sure you know how the saying go's about assuming things...I never said smoked, I was just making a point that Bridgewater controlled the game.  I gave credit to UMass about playing Bridgewater because the 31-17 score didn't show how good of a game it was.  And actually Buffalo controlled two aspects of that game they would've won if they had an offense.  This is a college board no need for pro references anyways.

Boxer,
I wasn't talking stats I actually watched the game so I have an honest opinion.  And I think the change in philisophy is the big difference, the coach has them believing they can win because a lot of their skill position guys are the same.

I don't know about CGA finding it's offense I mean at this point a pop warner team could find it's offense against Fitchburg.  They got beat pretty bad by Plymouth State and Bridgewater's signature win at this point is UMD.  With all that I said it's time for both teams to put up or shut up on Saturday as this game will most likely determine the Bogan division champion.

I will give some credit to Plymouth State for what they've done so far beacuse they did beat what appears to be the sleeper in the Boyd in UMD and an unproven CGA team.  This weekend is a statement game though against Nichols with Curry coming up the following week.  If they handle Nichols then there will be no denying their rise to power and will setup a showdown in Milton with the Boyd on the line.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Paul Heering on October 10, 2007, 01:14:34 PM
Just want to preface my post by saying I know very little about DIII football (follow baseball mostly). 

But my question is why don't teams in the NEFC play very many out of conference games?  Especially a team like Curry.  It seems from what I have read on here that the NEFC won't get much respect around the east until they A) win some out of conference game or B) Win a playoff game.   Since the conference as a whole only gets one shot to win a playoff game, why not schedule more out of conference.

By looking through the teams schedules I get only 9 out of NEFC games for the 16 teams

2 Losses vs SUNY Maritime (Mass Maritime & Salve)
2 Losses vs WPI (Worcester State & Mass Dartmouth)
1 Win vs Merchant Marine (Coast Guard)
1 Win vs Becker (Maine Maritime)
1 Win vs Mount Ida (Plymouth)
1 Win vs Hartwick (WNEC)
1 Loss vs RPI (Endicott)

Actually comes out to a 4-5 record which isn't a bad percentage but the question I have is why so few games?  is it scheduling difficulty, travel concerns, or other issues?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: coach21 on October 10, 2007, 02:27:24 PM
I would say the reason for not playing many out of conference games is due to expenses to travel. Besides about 2 of those games you mentioned were against weak opponents. It would be nice to see the top teams from the NEFC play some strong out of confernce games.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 10, 2007, 03:31:01 PM
As coach 21 said it is hard because so many of these schools cant afford travel, the only schools from the division who played those games are are private schools with more money... worcester st and WPI are schools in the same city and its not a far drive from Dartmouth to Worcester either... for the NEFC to gain respect they will have to travel to other states to play more competitive programs...unfortunately they dont have the expenses to do that at this time...by the way a nice article on PSU
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 10, 2007, 05:40:53 PM
 I too would like to comment on the DIII article ...well said ! It's been a long time since PSU has made any noise . Then again the recruiting had gone south for a stint of 10 years .

My hats off to PSU in staying alive , I had heard the program was in jeopardy 8 years ago when they were struggling . That could've been a rumor, not totally sure .

Next thing they need is a player on SI like years ago (JOE DUDEK) , just kidding . That would be a nice lift for the NEFC , no matter what team they were from. Just my opinion

                                        NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 10, 2007, 07:01:13 PM
I agree with the others that it was great to see the PSU article on the front page and a little bit of love for the NEFC.

Regarding the question about why the NEFC teams don't play out of conference games:
1.  As already stated the travel costs especially for the state schools is too much; and
2.  Schedule limitations.  The NEFC requires each team to play every team in their division, which means 7 games.  Then they play two cross-over games against the other division, which make 9 games.  Then add in the possible NEFC championship game which gives a total of 10 games.  Most of the teams hope to get to play in the ECAC tourney which would make 11 games and there is a limit (help here Pat) on the number of games the teams are allowed to play. 

I agree with your assessment that they need to play more non-conference games, but it won't happen as long as they have 9 games locked up in league play.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Paul Heering on October 10, 2007, 07:56:27 PM
thanks guys, that make sense. 

It seems like it would be very hard to schedule out of conference games because a the expense and the required conference games (7 conference and 2 crossover--if i am reading that correctly) would make it very tough to schedule other games
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 11, 2007, 05:25:52 AM
      If these other teams have a bigger budget maybe they would travel instead . so every crossover would be a home game for all NEFC.
I guess thats a little selfish huh .
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 11, 2007, 08:13:20 AM
OK, let's see if we can get as many folks picking this week as we did last week.  Some good games this week that should separate the men from the boys.  Here are my picks:

UMD 35 SRU 10 - UMD should have little problem with SRU

WNEC 28 MIT 14 - unless WNEC falls flat on its face they should win this one

PSU 24 Nichols 21 - Game of the week in NEFC.  I give the edge to PSU at home

BSC 35 USCGA 24 - I am just not convinced that the CGA has it all together this year and BSC has been playing good football

Worcester St 28 Fitchburg 14 - Not the same Fitchburg of the last few years

Curry 28 EC 10 - EC just doesn't have enough to take on this powerful Curry team

Framingham 21 Westfield 14 - Framingham is winnning again and Westfield is not looking so good

MMA 21 MME 7
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on October 11, 2007, 12:12:41 PM
First of all, i think i was 7-1 last week just for the record.  Now on to this week.

Westfield St.  10  Framingham St.  28: Framingham is playing well (imagine that under the old coach)   
Mass.-Dartmouth  31  Salve Regina  7: Salve is getting better, but UMD is playing for a ECAC spot   
Nichols 17  Plymouth St.  28:  Nichols is young and improving, but PSC is home.   
Maine Maritime 21  Mass. Maritime 13: I wonder if they take a boat to this game?     
MIT  14  Western New Eng.  28: WNEC always seems like they should be better.   
Fitchburg St. 42  Worcester St.  49: FSC can score, but their D is awful.  I still don't know what happened to them.  They were great a few years ago.   
Bridgewater St. 51  Coast Guard   52: Neither team can stop the other, but CGA is home, so there is your 1 point.   
Endicott  10  Curry 28: Yes EC's QB is getting better, but Curry is home and playing well enough. 

Go Gulls!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 11, 2007, 01:27:49 PM
Gullgrad,  You are correct you were 7-1 last week in the picks.  Sorry for my miscounting.  Good luck this week in your picks.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 11, 2007, 01:40:18 PM
Time for some picks...lets see if i can improve a little...hopefully we can get some other guys to make some picks before saturdays game

Framingham 21 Westfield 7 - Framingham has the 4th best overall D in the conference wow.

UMD 38 Salve 6 - JT run all over these guys another win for UMD

PSU 24 Nicholls 14 - Nicholls has one of the best D in the conference but i still give the upper hand to PSU...beat better opponnets and put up lots of points

Mass 14 Maine 6 - Mass has one of the best D in the leauge led by thier MLB i think they shut down the option like they did against Coast Guard, but their O actually scores this time to pick up the win

WNEC 24 MIT 14 - this could have upset written all over it... still going with WNEC Tho

Worcester 50 Fitchburg 31- Fitchburg = NO DEFENSE

Bridgewater 31 CGA- 21 - same players from last year ECAC game = same result a BSC victory

Curry 31 Endicott 12- EC is better offensively but Curry is on a roll right now

good luck to all teams this week and lets get as many posters as we can
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: currygrad on October 11, 2007, 02:56:34 PM
  Here are my upset specials (1) Nichols 21 Plymouth State 17, ( Better defense) (2) M.I.T. 21 WNEC 14 ( One team improving One team digressing ) (3) Coast Guard  24 BSC 14 ( BSC can not pass and scored 6 pts. against awful Salve team) (4) Endicott 31 Curry 28  (This one really scares me. Lets hope EC can not count to 11 on special teams again this week)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on October 11, 2007, 09:17:19 PM
Late but what the heck...PSC's program was in jeopardy a few years ago because the schools administration decided to deemphasize the program.  The program had become a revolving door for coaches trying to make it to the big time and upper administration was getting tired of the type of player being brought in.  The program was also losing a great deal of money and other sports programs were suffering.

They fought hard to get back into the NEFC and had to make promises regarding the type of program (budget, academic qualifications and such) they would have.

Castioni is a good guy who has a lot of coaching experience. He has worked hard to get his type of kids in and certainly had taken his lumps since arriving.

I've said it before...but the only people really concerned about the NEFC getting respect outside the region are the players, some coaches and people posting here.  The only teams in the NEFC to consistently try to play outside the league have been UMD, Curry and EC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 11, 2007, 11:28:38 PM
curry grad i like your optimism but Curry will handle EC easily no need to worry, Nicholls D looks better on paper but they lost to the only quality team they faced and Plymouth State is battle tested and the better team... i have to agree WNEC must be on upset alert this week... Buts BSC will be CGA becuase they have been showed a passing attack last week against Framingham and have the D to shut down Coast Guard, if BSC holds onto the ball, which they didnt against Salve and Framingham, they win easily
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 12, 2007, 05:22:59 AM
 I'll pick mine late tonight
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on October 12, 2007, 11:14:09 AM
7-1 last week, i'm going for equal or better

Framingham:  21   Westfield:  10  i'm on the  band wagon and lovin it!!!

UMass:  35   Salve Regina:  7  J.T. all day i'm guessing 175/3

Plymouth:  28   Nichols:  10 having their first good year since the loss of carven but they're not there yet

MME:  21   MMA:  7  no reasoning what so ever...who knows when these two play

WNEC:  28   MIT:  14  WNEC is just better

Worcester:  105 (42)   Fitchburg:  98 (35)  high power passing attacks without defense

Curry:  35   Endicott:  14  EC plays one half then Curry proves a point again

Bridgewater:  35   Coast Guard:  17  a few notes for the skeptics....

Clark:  last two games 19-25 for 216 yds and 2 td's (12 first downs)
Defense:  4th in scoring, 5th in total
X Factor:  Bascon still controls half the field, the reason his numbers are down is because no one will throw the ball near him  (led the nation in breakups last year)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 12, 2007, 01:26:40 PM
greatdaytobabear... good for you puttin up some stats that followed my comments about a BSC win over CGA... BSC D is good enough to shut down CGA and clark has been throwing the ball immensely better over the past two weeks, he looked sharp last week against framingham with his rollouts... im glad your on the framingham bandwagon hahah good to see them get support after this board had ripped them apart for a long time... i think maine deserves a little more respect they have had a solid program for a while and seem destined again to be over 500. and thier game agasint mass will be a good one becuase MMA d is 2nd or 3rd in total D in the conference
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 12, 2007, 01:28:45 PM
Just a reminder that this week's D3Cast Game of the Week is the Curry/Endicott game. Kickoff at 7 p.m., with free online video.

http://www.d3football.com/d3cast
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 12, 2007, 01:43:20 PM
Pat thanks for the update...good to see the NEFC getting some positive coverage... Curry will win this game easily...look for a big game out of pinto their nose tackle...has put up some impressive stats over the past years on these guys
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on October 12, 2007, 02:10:05 PM
ok, let's see how my picks are for this week

UMD over SRU 35-12   Salve just can't keep up with the better teams

Westfield over Framingham  18-0   This could be a lot closer though

Plymouth State over Nichols  28-21  Two tough teams trying to get their name out there

MMA over MME  35-10 MMA Defense is too good

WNEC over MIT  40-14  brains don't win games

Worcester over Fitchburg  56-49  a good day for QBs

CGA over Bridgewater  14-10  hard to tel which team will show up

Lastly, the game of the week


Curry over EC  35-14  it's Curry's homecoming, EC can't get the offense and defense on the same page. Some close games in the past, but this one is easy for Curry.   
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 12, 2007, 02:18:05 PM
in the mix...going against the grain this week and making some bold picks... MMA offense will not put up 35 against Maine..i think maine is one of the most underrated teams in the conference and will win i think Maine... not to long ago i remember they beat Curry which i dont think any other team on the bogan side has down in a very long time
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on October 12, 2007, 02:28:32 PM
I just wish I put the stats up yesterday like I was going to...haha...Although I'm curious why a defense that held CGA to 21 and 22 last year wouldn't be able to slow them down this year with more then half the starters back, Gullgrad?...The battle of the Bears is a new rivalry and I think the right Bridgewater team will show up, but it's going to be an awsome game.

As for Framingham you could never hate em, just kind of felt bad for em....And what everyone said now seems to be true, I guess it was the coaching staff.

Maine is solid until they get behind.  They remind me a lot of Navy, run the ball great but can't pass when they get behind.  It keeps teams close which is never a good thing.  The year they beat Curry was the year that Thibodeau was one of the top running backs in the nation, they would have done better in the league if Bridgewater and Fitchburg weren't stacked that year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: currygrad on October 12, 2007, 02:30:24 PM
I know I sound paranoid but I was at the Endicott Plymouth State game and the EC QB #7 was making plays all over the field scrambling for long gains and had 3 TD passes dropped and another reception fumbled inside the 5 yd. line. If they eliminate the mental mistakes and catch the ball they could cause problems for the Colonels. ( I hope everyone elses predictions are right but I just have a bad feeling )
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gr8Day2BaBear on October 12, 2007, 02:36:50 PM
To add one note...it's not that Clark is throwing better, Bridgewater put away the two-headed quarterback and allowed him to throw as well as run the option.  Both defenses have to contain Clark and George respectively because they can run and throw.  Whichever defense slows the other guy down is going to win, I just don't see either one of them getting stopped all together.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on October 12, 2007, 03:00:10 PM
Boxer, I had to go against the grain. otherwise everyone would have the same stats for picks every week....even if I am way off it's a change of pace
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 12, 2007, 06:23:44 PM
 Ok here goes

UMD....29----------SRU..... 10  ( JT 200 yds ) 3 tds

WNEC..23----------MIT...... 17

PSU......38----------Nichols..24

BSC......32-----------CGA...28

FSC.......28-----------WSC...21

WEST....24----------Framingham..21

EC.........28-----------Curry..24

MMA.......21-----------MME..14
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Dudley Hill on October 12, 2007, 08:11:10 PM
1st time making picks, we'll see

UMD 34 SRU13

MIT 24  WNEC 21

NICHOLS 24 PSU 17

CGA 30 BSC 28

WSC 24 FSC 10

FRAM 28 WEST 21

CURRY 38 EC 17

MME 17 MMA 14
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 13, 2007, 08:57:27 AM
          GREAT DAY FOR FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!

                 Good kuck all
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 13, 2007, 11:04:25 AM
It is great to see so many people picking and with a variety of picks. After several years of a lot of negative comments on this site (especially aimed at Framingham  coaching), it is nice to see some positive statements. 

Looks like there are a few folks that think EC can knock off Curry.  I would like to see that, but it is at Curry on their Homecoming and EC has been erratic this year.

The CGA-BSC game should be a good one too.  George, CGA QB, is a good talented QB so BSC will need to pressure him, but also keep him from running with the ball. CGA got a couple of key receivers back last week that had been out with injuries for a couple of weeks so that may change the game plan.

Looks like folks are split on the PSU-Nichols game. That should be a great one, but PSU has been more consistent in their play this year than Nichols.

Great day for Football in the NEFC.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Touchdown23 on October 13, 2007, 01:15:58 PM
Here goes nothing.....

UMD 35 -  Salve 13
MIT 21 -  Wnec 17
CGA 31 - BSC 24
Nichols 21 - PSU 14
WSC 27 -  Fitch 21
Framingham 21 - Westfield 14 (ot)
Curry 41 -  EC 28
MME 24 - MMA 17
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 13, 2007, 03:25:53 PM
CGA-BSC game looks like it is as good as expected with BSC leadning 14-10 at the half.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 13, 2007, 04:31:48 PM
Wow, PSU 30 Nichols 0.  So much for a close game.  Looks like PSU may be the real thing. 

CGA over BSC 24-21.  Game looks like it lived up to expectations, but there must have been a little more defense than expected.

Good call by those picking MIT over WNEC.  Not sure what happened to WNEC, it looked like they might be good this year, but appear to have fallen on hard times.

Still waiting on the big Curry-EC game tonight.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 13, 2007, 08:02:00 PM
 WOW  PSU ...30......Nicols....O

Who said Nichols had the better defense ? And Nichols would win because of it .

          NOT SO I GUESS
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Dudley Hill on October 13, 2007, 09:48:57 PM
Well looks like it's 6-2 on my first week.

Went with my heart on Nichols- PSU.

PSU won every aspect of their Homecoming day, Offense, Defense, Coaching. The only thing erratic was the officiating.  It wouldn't have made any difference in the game but it certainly was substandard.

PSU has a big strong O line that really leaned hard on Nichols for most of the day.  Nichols D' stepped up and played well in the second quarter but with the Bison offense unable to sustain many drives and when they did seem to be getting in gear it was either a call or a turnover that stopped them in their tracks (PSU D' had a bit to do with it too!), the defense seemed to wear out quickly in the second half.  They played as hard as they could but PSU has good depth, should be a terrific game PSU vs Curry.       
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 14, 2007, 09:37:12 AM

****************** FINAL SCORES ************************



12:00 PM  Westfield St.  36  Framingham St.  29  Final   
   12:00 PM  Mass.-Dartmouth  17  Salve Regina  0  Final   
   1:00 PM  Nichols  0  Plymouth St.  30  Final   
   1:00 PM  Maine Maritime  20  Mass. Maritime  18     
   1:00 PM  MIT  26  Western New Eng.  21  Final   
   1:30 PM  Fitchburg St.  21  Worcester St.  36  Final   
   1:30 PM  Bridgewater St.  21  Coast Guard  24  Final   
   7:00 PM  Endicott  6  Curry 

   I didn't fair very well

   3  for 8 OUCH !!!

Next week should be very interesting

                             NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 14, 2007, 09:42:01 AM
 Sorry

I didn't give the final on EC & Curry

         EC 6.......Curry  38
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 14, 2007, 11:41:48 AM
After messing up the counts last week, I decided not to try to tally the picks up this week.

With PSC's trouncing of Nichols yesterday (30-0) and Curry thumping EC (38-6), the NEFC is all set for a royal battle this weekend with PSC visiting Curry.  There should be some lively discussion on here this week.

EC should bounce back next week with WNEC coming into town for EC Homecoming.  EC needs some turn around to salvage anotherwise disappointing season.

Looks like CQA QB George took over the CGA-BSC game with over 100 yards rushing. 

Come on folks lets get the Curry-PSC discussions going.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 14, 2007, 11:42:08 AM
should of went with my gut and went with MIT...contrats to them... fielding agaisnt framingham had 21 tackles and the fumble recovery to ice the game when Framingham was driving to tie the game...another close loss for framingham they are young and havent learned how to win close games against good teams...PSU kills Nicholls wow...and Curry killin EC was no suprise... but the game of the week is happening this week with Curry vs PSU wow...and congrats to CGA on beating BSC they are now in the drivers seat again
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 14, 2007, 11:43:54 AM
i think Curry is the superior team...it is going to be a close game but i think Curry has the D line to control PSU rushing attack...and Plymouth's D has let up some points and Curry will put up some points on them...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 14, 2007, 11:59:36 AM
 I think will be the toughest game for both teams ....NO CAKE WALK FOR EITHER.... the only team Curry has played with a winning record would have been EC .They CRUSHED them .

    " just my opion though "

                                NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 14, 2007, 05:32:57 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 14, 2007, 11:59:36 AM
I think will be the toughest game for both teams ....NO CAKE WALK FOR EITHER.... the only team Curry has played with a winning record would have been EC .They CRUSHED them .

    " just my opion though "

                                NLNG

nlng what does that mean...EC is 1-5... also look out for the Nicholls vs UMD game this week... both have Curry left on their schedule and the winner will only have one conf. loss on thier schedule when they play Curry... if PSU beats Curry this week that could lead to some interesting scenarious
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 14, 2007, 08:10:04 PM
 Sorry , my bad . I always considered EC as a winner though .
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 15, 2007, 03:01:57 PM
anyone have anythoughts on any games this week... PSU vs Curry is a huge game for this conference...i would think it would have generated a little more conversation
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 15, 2007, 06:11:18 PM
 I think , if anyone is going to knock the king off the raft it's got to be PSU.

I think, (there I go thinking again) PSU has played tough opponnets this year and has put up some decent #'s . PSU gave Curry a game last year too as I remember . Just ask the Curry coach . This will be a great game , lets just see who can have least amount of DUMB penalties . I really thought WNEC , UMD & EC would have been stronger than what they'd showed . I'm rooting for the "UNDERDOG " just to make it an interesting rest of the season .  Then reading DIII.com it looks like the top seed will be coming out of the NEFC . That's a feather in our cap for sure . Now I 'll close for now .  I'll put my picks in later in the week , see if I can get better than 3 this week.

                                          NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 15, 2007, 09:13:16 PM
what do you mean the NEFC might be getting the top seed in the NCAA... we have yet to win an NCAA game nevermind get a number 1 seed those are reserved for the other big dogs in the east...if we do get the # 1 seed it will go a long way in helping the NEFC winning their first playoff game...

interesting tid bit here...if maine can get by Framingham this week they will force a matchup next week against CGA for first place in the Bogan...but we will worry about that next week...

UMD vs Nicholls this week is another big game...i look for UMD to win a close game and keep their playoffs hope alive... another great set of games this weekend...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 15, 2007, 09:15:09 PM
Noline: Whoever is suggesting the NEFC might get a top seed doesn't know what they're talking about, or is speaking in jest.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on October 15, 2007, 09:17:05 PM
Remember UMD has new coaches, new offensive scheme, new defensive scheme with some very talented players.  Let's see how it plays out before we throw them in the not so good category....EC has finally found out that the wing t can only get you so far and WNEC is still building from scratch..
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 15, 2007, 09:25:46 PM
 OK  OK you caught me ! I'm just spreading rumors Pat . Can't I have a little fun
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 15, 2007, 09:32:06 PM
nlng that was a good try buddy ::) and yes UMD is a team to watch over the next few years... they still have an outside shot at the conference...lets see how it plays out
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 16, 2007, 04:34:43 AM
         Nice we just might hit # 100 pages this weekend .


                                      LET"S GO!!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 16, 2007, 08:19:01 AM
Wow, last week PSC made the front page of D3Football.com and this week CGA is mentioned.  The NEFC is getting some love, but not enough to get a number 1 seed NLNG, but that was a good try.

OK, right now I have to go with Curry for the following reasons:(1) They have the number 1 scoring offense in the NEFC (PSC is 2nd); (2) They have the number 2 scoring defense (PSC is 6); (3) They are number 1 in total offense (PSC is 4th); they are number 2 in total defense (PSC is 7); (4) they are at home, and Curry gets a lot of breaks at home.  It should be a great game.

The EC- WNEC game should be a good one.  I think EC will be out for some revenge after losing at WNEC last year.  Plus EC is looking to turn this season around (of course WNEC is too).

UMD-Nichols should be good.  You have to wonder how much the beating Nichols took last week will affect this game.  Will Nichols be down or will they use the PSC loss as a motivator. 

Picks later this week.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 16, 2007, 10:57:04 AM
I agree i give the edge to Curry but not by much...Plymouth State has played a tougher schedule compared to Curry's... but i think Curry's offense will be too much for Plymouth State to handle because they have let up some points against some good offensive teams, but they have also put up alot as well
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 16, 2007, 11:04:03 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 16, 2007, 10:57:04 AM
I agree i give the edge to Curry but not by much...Plymouth State has played a tougher schedule compared to Curry's... but i think Curry's offense will be too much for Plymouth State to handle because they have let up some points against some good offensive teams, but they have also put up alot as well

I'm predicting a tie.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 16, 2007, 06:34:50 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 16, 2007, 10:57:04 AM
I agree i give the edge to Curry but not by much...Plymouth State has played a tougher schedule compared to Curry's... but i think Curry's offense will be too much for Plymouth State to handle because they have let up some points against some good offensive teams, but they have also put up alot as well

Now looking back over my notes Worcester is the only team Curry has played with a winning record .

Secondly , Yes teams have put up #'s on PSU < but they have been in the latter part of the game check some box scores . PSU seems to have alot of player particiapation( check sp). Yes they have been burned before but who hasn't. Looking up some stats Curry looks stronger but are they really , Time will tell .

                                   "Just my opinion "

                                        NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 17, 2007, 06:43:18 AM
Quote from: D3 Fan on October 15, 2007, 09:17:05 PM
Remember UMD has new coaches, new offensive scheme, new defensive scheme with some very talented players.  Let's see how it plays out before we throw them in the not so good category....EC has finally found out that the wing t can only get you so far and WNEC is still building from scratch..

Boston College also has new coaches and offensive schemes as well............
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on October 17, 2007, 12:04:04 PM
I think that the edge in the 'big game' goes to the home team.  I feel as if this will be a passing of torch type of game.  If PSU comes up with the victory it will be their conference to win for a few years to come.  If curry holds on, which i think they will, they will continue to dominate the conference until someone new comes into it. 

Nice article by Tom haley as well regarding the around the region.

Go Gulls
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: currygrad on October 17, 2007, 12:21:38 PM
Gullgrad, do you see the Gulls much and I wonder if you have an opinion on what the problem is? ( I saw them play Plymouth State and thought they looked good a few dumb penalties and a few dropped balls or they would have won that game. And then I saw them play Curry and the wheels came off the wagon. WHATS UP??
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 17, 2007, 01:08:57 PM
Currygrad,  EC is inconsistent this year.  I saw them play against SRU and they started slow but then got it going.  Two things that I think have hurt them, penalties and turnovers at the wrong time.  This is just based on reading about their games, but it appears that they get in the Red Zone often, but then either turn it over or commit some stupid penalty that results in moving them out of scoring position.  A lot of that is disicpline.  I think there are a lot of younger guys playing on EC this year.  Obviously, there is a world of difference between playing SRU and playing PSC or Curry, but if you can't hang onto the ball you lose a lot of games.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on October 17, 2007, 01:43:35 PM
another large problem with EC is that in previous years they had a number of talented senior leaders. It seems this year that no one is steping up and taking control. The taltent of their seniors isn't what it used to be. Everyone goes through growing pains.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on October 17, 2007, 02:09:08 PM
QuoteBoston College also has new coaches and offensive schemes as well............

Jonny let me get this straight.... You want to compare a D1 program and coaching staff to that of a D3 part time staff????  UMD has part time coaches who don't have the benefit of a full contact series of spring practices that they use to install those new defenses and offenses!!!!

Come on Jonny I thought you had much more insight then that!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 17, 2007, 03:26:34 PM
Quote from: D3 Fan on October 17, 2007, 02:09:08 PM
QuoteBoston College also has new coaches and offensive schemes as well............

Jonny let me get this straight.... You want to compare a D1 program and coaching staff to that of a D3 part time staff????  UMD has part time coaches who don't have the benefit of a full contact series of spring practices that they use to install those new defenses and offenses!!!!

Come on Jonny I thought you had much more insight then that!!!


Do you wanna compare D3 defense to D1 defenses?  It's comparable no matter how you look at it.  Changing coaches isn't THAT big of a deal.  That's what the preseason is for.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on October 17, 2007, 03:56:50 PM
QuoteChanging coaches isn't THAT big of a deal.  That's what the preseason is for.

LewDogg you are so unbelievable wrong.  This is especially true at the D3 level where many programs have mostly part time coaches and no true spring practice to install anything schemes. 

What preseason???  Are you talking about 2 weeks of camp???  That is barely enough time to get to know what type of players you have never mind install and run a new offense or defense.

If you want to talk specifically about UMD, then we can.  I would have been surprised if UMD didn't struggle to start.  When the coaching change took place, UMD lost 2 guys in Kavanaugh an Allaire who had been there for 17 years, Starky, who had been there on of during the past 17 years and other player coaches connecting the program back through the years.  The whole historical significance in the change and all the things that were/are going on at that school should most definitely make the transition a difficult one.  Add the fact that there are no full time coaches and the late start of the new coach probably explains the product on the field.  Now that we see improvement also should come as no surprise because Kavanaugh left the program full of some very talented players who know what it takes to win.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 17, 2007, 03:57:23 PM
i think we have alot of EC supporters on this board, seems like they are a daily constant on the board no matter if they have only beatin SRU this season, the EC vs WNEC game is going to be a tough one to pick, both teams are floundering, neither can hold onto the ball and both have been crushed by the same opponnets, in a coin flip i give it to EC, i saw them scrimmage Framingham earlier in the year and they didnt look all that good getting outplayed, i saw them play Curry and not alot had changed but then again it was Curry and not the lowely likes of framingham or WNEC
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 17, 2007, 05:48:43 PM
 Exellent........... Looks like we're going to hit the 100 page mark this weekend with ALL our picks, lets keep it going . I see I had a few comments come back to me reguarding the # 1 seed coming from NEFC . That seemed to work to get these pages rolling along . WE THANKYOU . I even got the attention of the "BIG BOY "  Pat .

I think this year has been rather interesting with different teams winning ,which after last year was total DOMINATION . Framingham seems to be rebuilding , Salve is winnining more than last & PSU has turned the corner . Like someone stated earlier, alot of these teams ( UMD, WNEC) have had a changing of the guard in the coaching staff .

I have been to alot of games this year and it's  been some GOOD football. Even when the score doesn't totally show it, alot of these games could have been different. Taking care of the ball is always is the KEY & staying away from DUMB DUMB penalties is another .

If the NEFC could invite more teams , (if they can) who would you all like to see come in? ....
                              will shut up for now

                                           NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 17, 2007, 07:05:56 PM
NLNG,  The NEFC has too many teams already, whcih henders scheduling better competition which in turn henders them getting better. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 17, 2007, 09:39:59 PM
 That's what I was gettig at. hence (IF THEY CAN)

Thanks for your input
Title: BOYD & BOGAN
Post by: Findtheball on October 18, 2007, 05:31:44 AM
 where did these names originate from (Boyd & Bogan) were they coaches around the league? Not trying to sound stupid , just curious .
Title: boyd and bogan
Post by: RockRB11 on October 18, 2007, 08:53:05 AM
Sometime around 1997 or 1998 a few more teams entered the conference to make it a 14 team conf. with two sides, red and blue.  In 2000 the first conf. championship game was played in which they renamed the two sides Boyd and Bogan after the first two commissionoers.


Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 18, 2007, 11:50:18 AM
way to be on top of things rockrb11... this conference if anything has to get rid of a few teams to make the leauge more competitive, if i were to add a team i would hope it would to make a swap for a team like Husson, a team trying to build a competitive NCAA worthy team, maybe swap a bottom feeder like mass martime or MIT?

but we all know that is not plausible and Husson is joining the newly NAC conference, new conference members could be added in a couple years if Maine Maritime goes to the NAC conference because it fits them better geographically,

The NAC also doesnt have an automatic bid and since our conference is so bad i wouldnt be suprised if the NEFC champ and NAC champ played each other for the automatic spot in the NCAA's, if that happen we could be in some trouble since Husson is making itself a name around the east
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 18, 2007, 01:02:18 PM
Well, nlng, we made it to page 100 and we haven't even started the picks yet for the week.  We might be up to 102 by the time we finsh the picks.  It is great to see such an active site this year.  Good positive postings.

Thanks Rockrb11 for the history on the divisions in the NEFC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 18, 2007, 07:03:49 PM
 Thankyou Rock

That's good info.

I truly hope it's not going take another 2 years to turn the next 100 pages .

There has been some good posts on this site , with some great information.

Lets keep this a positive sight and grow to page 200 in 6 months , how about that challenge .

Ok will close for now , good luck to all with thier picks this week.

                                         NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 19, 2007, 08:24:16 AM
I'll start the picks out this week and throw a few curveballs in the mix.

EC 21  WNEC 7 - EC needs a win badly and they are playing their Homecoming game.  They are also out to revenge last year's loss.

Curry 24  PSC 14 - I have to go with Curry at home and still the undefeated Champions of the NEFC. 

MIT 14  SRU 10 - MIT won their first game of the year last week over WNEC and looks to extend that streak against a SRU team that has yet to get it together.

MME 20  Framingham 7 - MME is looking good and I am still not convienced that Framingham has turned it around this year.  Also MME is at home.

UMD 35 Nichols 21 - I go with UMD at home and a Nichols team that seems to be up and down this season.

BSC 42 Westfield St 20 - I think BSC is too strong for Westfield and BSC also wants to hang in there for a potential Bogan Division title shot. 

Fitchburg 24  MMA 7 - battle of the bottom dwellers, but I give the edge to Fitchburg.

Worcester 21 CGA 18 - This is my upset pick of the week.  Worcester St is at home, CGA is coming off an emotional last minute victory last week and I think that CGA has gotten some lucky breaks to win some close ones, their luck might be running out.  Besides I have to pick an upset at some point in the season.

NLNG, here's to starting on the next 100 pages.  Let's see if we can catch up with some of the other leagues in the number of postings.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on October 19, 2007, 08:44:06 AM
First of all, I finally figured out that Fitchburg changed coaches, that explains the sudden drop off.  MY bad on the lack of knowledge.  Okay, off to my picks.

Western New Eng. 14   Endicott 15- a bad game of teams that should be good.     
Plymouth St. 21  Curry 28- I think this is a great game, edge to the home team     
Salve Regina 41  MIT 14- Salve seems to be on the way up     
Framingham St. 12  Maine Maritime 17- teams seem to have a tough time in Maine     
Nichols 21  Mass.-Dartmouth 31- Nichols is young and improving, but Harold runs wild     
Bridgewater St. 35   Westfield St.  14- how is the WSC coach still coaching?  THey have been bad for years.   
Mass. Maritime 35  Fitchburg St. 42- FSC gets win # 1?  Maybe...     
Coast Guard 41  Worcester St. 28- CG is on track now and contols that side.

Go gulls, good luck everyone else.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 19, 2007, 06:24:47 PM
 Ok here I go .. I too will pick some upsets !!!!!!!!

  EC....24---------WNEC....21 ( Home coming )EC will find another gear and will score early and often . I like both teams but I'll give EC the edge .

PSU...31---------Curry.....28 ( my upset ) PSU has something to prove & revenge is sweet. Curry will have their hands full here . A field goal will win this battle , I truly believe Curry has had an easier schedule thus far who hasn't played a team as hungry as PSU.

SRU...37----------MIT.......24   young SRU on the move

UMD...45---------Nichols...17  can't stop the "JT" express

BSC....35---------Wesrfield St.....14  just because

FSC.....24---------MMA......21.......hhmmm

WSC....35---------CGA......31.........( 2nd UPSET)

MME......21--------Framingham....17  ( home field advantage )

Some crazy picks , but we'll see, GOOD LUCK ALL!!

                                   GO PSU !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Dudley Hill on October 19, 2007, 08:40:19 PM
think I'll try my luck again.

Nichols 24 UMD 21

EC 28  WNEC 14

PSU  21  CURRY 20

MIT 28  SRU 17

BSC 31  WESTFIELD 7

MMA 28  FSC 10

CGA 31 WSC 28

FRAM 24 MME 20

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 20, 2007, 09:13:59 AM
                             

                                 Good day for football!!!!!

Where are everyones picks ?????????????
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 20, 2007, 09:42:46 AM
Come on folks.  Last week I counted 9 people making predictions and so far this week there are only 4.  Don't worry if your picks are wrong.  It is fun and helps get into the games.

Should be several good ones on tap today.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 20, 2007, 01:32:41 PM
Apparently Curry is trying to make a point 42-7 at the half.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 20, 2007, 02:28:47 PM
Curry is making a huge point right now ...they are embarrassing Plymouth St. this could be the first Curry team to actually make a run for a playoff win this year... they are killing everyone...

forgot to get my picks ontime but other than the curry game i dont know any other scores

UMD over Nicholls
Maine beats Framingham
Bridgewater over Westfield
Mass M over Fitch
Mit over Salve
CGA over Worcester
WNEC over EC
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 21, 2007, 09:13:21 AM

My hat off to Curry . That game wasn't even close . Curry came to kick some butt & show PSU that they are "KING OF THE RAFT "

I never realized how fast a couple of thier players are . The QB is definetly
one of better ones in the conference . He can run , throw , quick on his feet.

PSU was FLAT , kind of toe curling type play. Why run the ball when you're behind 35-7 , use the clock, don't abuse it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HailMary15 on October 21, 2007, 11:07:25 AM
Playing in the NAC wouldn't be any better travel wise for Maine Maritime than the NEFC except for when they played Husson.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 21, 2007, 06:22:29 PM
 Alright already I can't stand that not one person has talked about this weekend . Put away the towels . Next week is a new week . Lets get some chatter going here, we'll never make 200 at this pace .

"SMILE ! it makes people wonder what your thinking about "

                                   NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 21, 2007, 06:44:55 PM
Just a few thoughts about this past weekend in the NEFC. 

I ended up 6-2 this week.

Looks like Curry wants to leave no doubt that they are the Champs and if anyone else wants it they have to knock Curry off.

EC again demonstrated a lack of mental touoghness by starting out 27-0 and letting WNEC back into the game.

Nice win by Nichols over UMD and nice win for MIT.  I thought SRU would be better this year now that they have a fulltime coach. 

I was really surprised by the Westfield win over BSC.  Did BSC just give up after losing to CGA? 

Looks like thc NEFC championship game will be a repeat of last year's game and probably have smiilar results.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 21, 2007, 06:55:50 PM
 Not real familar with last year NEFC championship. I do know Curry took it, did they play CGA ? Do the 2nd place teams have a playoff birth or not ? If not I see Curry doing again no matter who they play . I was quite impressed the way they played Sat. They have some real speedster for sure .
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 21, 2007, 07:37:26 PM
cant slouch on wesfield they are a good team and are very young... this weeks game against maine maritime and CGA will decide their side of the division and the winner will most likely go to play Curry in the championship

i hope people on this site realize that this could be the year NEFC finally wins a playoff game...they are clearly the best team in the leauge and with the east being down this year and the way things have played out...they have a serious shot at beating teams around the east...if Curry can avoid playing the winner of the Alfred/Fisher game of the E8, who will likely be the number 1 seed in the east, Curry has a real chance at beating any other team...

In case people dont know WNEC beat Hartwick to start the season and Hartwick this year only lost to Alfred by 10 and beat top ten ST.JOhn Fisher...as we know Curry beat wnec 49-3... people should be excited that we could pontentially get a win in the NCAA and gain some respect

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 21, 2007, 07:41:23 PM
Curry beat CGA in the NEFC championship game last year... the loser usually plays in the ECAC and last year the ECAC selected CGA to play 2nd place Bridgewater of the Bogan division in one of the 2 ECAC games... Bridgewater went on to beat CGA in the ECAC northeast title game or something like that, and Springfield crushed Curry in the NCAA
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 22, 2007, 05:31:02 AM
                 Yes that would cool !!!!!!!!

Thanks for explaining that as well . I'm kind of disappointed with the lack of posts this past weekend though.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 22, 2007, 04:58:49 PM
 WHAT THERE IS NO WIND IN THOSE SAILS ??

  ok if there is no wind , we have to put our back into it !

         Let's keep this boat moving !!!!!

                                STROKE
                               
                                 STROKE

                                  STROKE
What happened to all the predition guru's ? Hey I only picked 3 right this week and I'm still on here talking .

         We'll make page 200 in the year 2010 at this rate . LETS GO!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 22, 2007, 08:44:44 PM
huge game this week...even tho Curry is going to win but who knows, Nicholls vs Curry has huge implication becuase if Nicholls somehow pulls off the upset they will move into the number 1 slot in the Boyd division, this would also kill any chance of two teams getting into the NCAA from the NEFC liek previously said on the east region fan page, but hey lets see how it goes..

maybe Nicholls D is for real they shut down Umass d who knows
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on October 22, 2007, 09:24:08 PM
Quotethis would also kill any chance of two teams getting into the NCAA from the NEFC   

Boxer, 2 teams from the NEFC makng the NCAA's????  I don't care what happens but the chances of 2 making it are slim to none!!!  The only reason 1 will make it is because of the automatic bid...

Come on...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Dudley Hill on October 22, 2007, 10:06:21 PM
Unfortunately, I slipped in my picks last week.  I Went 4-4. 

It may be an extremely long shot for Nichols this week but stranger things have happened in big games.  No matter what happens, it's a great situation to be in, having an opportunity to play for the top spot in the next to last week of the season. 

Nichols has a solid defense (although the PSU game didn't reflect that) and if they can be successful controlling the ball on O, it could be a closer game than many think.  I'm looking forward to a good game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 22, 2007, 11:37:43 PM
i know d3fan what your thinkin...but the logic is on the east region fan poll a few posts backs....i agree we will only get one but he was saying in plymouth state wins out it will be tough to leave them out over teams in other conferences with 2 losses from other conferences...even tho i believe plymouth state shouldnt get in over those teams...it was just a possibility with sos and other factors
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 22, 2007, 11:39:19 PM
Frank seems to like to throw out end-of-the-world scenarios. :)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 23, 2007, 06:44:11 AM
I don't see Nichols beating Curry.  I am not even sure it will be that close unless Curry decides to play their 2nd string.  I think Curry is on a mission and they seem to get up for the big games, just ask EC and PSC.  Nichols will just be another minor nuisance in their quest for another NEFC title.

Speaking of NEFC titles, the NEFC will only have one team (Curry) playing in the NCAA.  I do agree though that Curry is playing well enough this year that the NEFC may finally win a game in the NCAA.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 23, 2007, 09:43:28 AM
i dont see Nicholls winning either ... the game I'm most interested this weekend is Maine Maritime and CGA...if maine can pull out the win they will be atop the Bogan division... Maine has a one of the best D in this leauge and might be able to shut down CGA's high power attack of late, as we know the option keeps the clock running and if maine can get some first downs it will keep the ball away from CGA and keep them within striking distance...

anyone else have any thoughts on NEFC action this week?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on October 23, 2007, 01:39:30 PM
ECAC Playoff Chances:

                   Conf.      Overall
Team        Conf W-L  Win %  W-L  Win % Notes
----------- ---- ---  -----  ---  ----- -----------------------------
Curry       NEFC 5-0  1.000  8-0  1.000 * - Leads in NEFC Boyd Div.
Alfred       E8  4-0  1.000  7-0  1.000 * - Leads in the E8
RPI          LL  4-0  1.000  6-0  1.000 * - Co-leads in the LL
SJF          E8  3-1  0.750  7-1  0.875 ** - Potential Pool C pick
Cortland    NJAC 5-0  1.000  6-1  0.857 * - Co-leads in the NJAC
USCGA       NEFC 5-0  1.000  6-1  0.857 * - Leads the NEFC Bogan Div.
Plymouth    NEFC 4-1  0.800  6-1  0.857
Hartwick     E8  2-1  0.667  5-2  0.714
Ithaca       E8  2-2  0.500  5-2  0.714
Hobart       LL  4-1  0.800  5-2  0.714 ** - Potential Pool C pick
Maine Mar.  NEFC 4-1  0.800  5-2  0.714
Nichols     NEFC 4-1  0.800  5-2  0.714
Union        LL  4-0  1.000  4-2  0.667 * - Co-leads in the LL
Husson      Ind. 0-0  0.000  5-3  0.625
Rochester    LL  3-1  0.750  4-3  0.571
WPI          LL  1-3  0.250  4-3  0.571
Bridgewater NEFC 3-2  0.600  4-3  0.571
Westfield   NEFC 3-2  0.600  4-3  0.571
Worcester   NEFC 3-2  0.600  4-4  0.500
Mass-Dart.  NEFC 3-2  0.600  4-4  0.500
Springfield  E8  1-2  0.333  3-4  0.429
WestConn    NJAC 1-3  0.250  3-4  0.429
Brockport   ACFC 1-2  0.333  3-4  0.429
St. Lawrence LL  1-3  0.250  2-4  0.333
Norwich      E8  0-3  0.000  2-5  0.286
Utica        E8  0-3  0.000  2-5  0.286
Buffalo     NJAC 1-4  0.200  2-5  0.286


I removed the word "State" in several instances for space purposes.  Only teams that can finish .500 or above are included, as teams at or above .500 are eligible for the ECAC Playoffs.  Reminder:  only teams that sign up for inclusion for ECAC consideration will be selected.  That will not occur for another couple weeks.

There are four contingencies currently: 

1) If Union wins the LL, then RPI could fall into an ECAC slot (but a second loss would be necessary for that).

2) An E8 team receiving a Pool C bid is not definite – I've chosen SJF as the current frontrunner for such a slot should it come to fruition.

3) Cortland could fall into an ECAC slot should it lose to CNJ and not receive a Pool C slot.

4) Hobart may not receive a Pool C bid at two losses, pushing it into the ECACs.

Therefore, we'll look at the TOP TEN teams, including those who are in the contingency discussions, that would currently receive ECAC bids (eliminating current outright conference leaders):

1) Either Curry or Coast Guard (Loser of the NEFC Title Game)
2) RPI
3) St. John Fisher
4) Cortland State
5) Plymouth State
6) Hartwick
7) Ithaca
8 ) Hobart
9) Maine Maritime
10) Nichols

Note that Union would have a third loss for it to be ECAC eligible, as at 7-2, Union would win its Pool A bid.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 23, 2007, 05:00:47 PM
Frank, thanks for that detailed breakdown.  Isn't it likely that only 2 NEFC teams will be invited to the ECAC based on past history? 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 23, 2007, 08:00:22 PM
Frank so your saying that the NEFC champ. loser will play in one ECAC game, the winner the NCAA and Plymouth if they win out will most likely get the other ECAC game because RPI, SJF and Cortland if they win out will make the NCAA as well. Thats what im getting from that ... does that sound right
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on October 23, 2007, 08:07:53 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 23, 2007, 08:00:22 PM
Frank so your saying that the NEFC champ. loser will play in one ECAC game, the winner the NCAA and Plymouth if they win out will most likely get the other ECAC game because RPI, SJF and Cortland if they win out will make the NCAA as well. Thats what im getting from that ... does that sound right

Yes.  You have it down correctly. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on October 23, 2007, 08:09:52 PM
Quote from: 63Center on October 23, 2007, 05:00:47 PM
Frank, thanks for that detailed breakdown.  Isn't it likely that only 2 NEFC teams will be invited to the ECAC based on past history? 

All ECAC eligible teams are now lumped together without attention to conferences - Of course, there are efforts to avoid rematches whenever possible.  However, there is no longer a sub-region rule limiting New England and New York to three teams each.  In 2004, four New England teams were chosen, although I believe at least one was not an NEFC team.  I think the way the standings end up falling generally allows the Committee to avoid picking more than two historically.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on October 24, 2007, 04:26:55 PM
NCAA Regional Rankings are out....

1.  Alfred  7-0  7-0
2.  Curry  8-0  8-0
3.  Rensselaer  6-0  6-0
4.  St. John Fisher  7-1  7-1
5.  The College of New Jersey  6-1  6-1
6.  Albright  6-1  6-1
7.  Cortland State  5-1  6-1
8.  Union (New York)  4-2  4-2
9.  Hobart  5-2  5-2
10.  Delaware Valley  4-2  4-3
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 25, 2007, 06:45:23 PM
  So what about CGA or PSU if they win out ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 25, 2007, 06:45:37 PM
does these regional rankings mean that Curry is the #2 seed in the east right now?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 25, 2007, 06:47:38 PM
  You'd think Curry would be # 1 seed
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 25, 2007, 06:48:27 PM
i think if both win out then the plymouth st is automoatic for one ECAC bid and if Coast Guard wins and beat Curry they are the automatic bid from our conference and Curry will be the other ECAC bid... if CGA wins out they will be a very low seed prolly the 8th in the East and Plymouth ST will have a gripe since they beat up CGA earlier this year
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 25, 2007, 06:49:17 PM
according to teh rankings right now Curry would be the second seed, i dont know how that happens but that means they would play Hobart i think, and that is a favorable matchup that could lead to a win for the NEFC
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 25, 2007, 06:50:49 PM
  Yeah really ! that would be a kick in the face
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Dudley Hill on October 25, 2007, 08:41:02 PM
I know what the rankings say but I've always been a sucker for the underdog.
With that being said,  here are my adventurous picks for the weekend.

UMD 24 EC 14

WNEC 14 SRU 7

Fram 28 MMA 21

WSU 28 BSU 24

FSU 27 Westf 21

MME 24 CGA 17

MIT 30 PSU 28

Nichols 31 Curry 28
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 26, 2007, 05:08:56 AM
  WOW I GUESS
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 26, 2007, 05:11:37 AM
   what happenend to my KARMA?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on October 26, 2007, 07:30:22 AM
NLNG you probably (and should have) lost your karma when you made a comment on Curry being a one seed.  Are you familiar with the track record of the NEFC and how we compare with the rest of east, country, or world?  Until we beat some formidable opponents, be prepared for a 5-8 seed. 

Now for my picks:

Mass. Maritime  10  Framingham St.  21: Mass just doesn't have it   
Endicott 21  Mass.-Dartmouth    28: A closer one, but we can't pull it off 
Western New Eng. 15  Salve Regina  18: You should get bouns points if you can figure these two teams out   
Maine Maritime 21  Coast Guard  48: Maine is not good on the road.     
Fitchburg St. 41  Westfield St.  48: Everyone come on into the endzone   
MIT 12  Plymouth St.   43: PSC secures an ECAC bid?   
Worcester St. 31  Bridgewater St. 32: No idea who should win     
Curry 42  Nichols  21: Nichols is reminded how young they really are
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 26, 2007, 01:20:26 PM
Gullgrad, I agree with you regarding Curry's ranking.  With the NEFC history, Curry (or whoever wins the NEFC) will not get a 2 seed in the NCAA.  If they were really lucky they might get a 4, but you are probably right 5-8.

Here's my picks for this weekend.

EC 13, UMD 24- Down year for EC and it is Sr, day at UMD

MMA 24, Framingham 28 - No real good reason, just had to pick someone

WNEC 21, SRU 18 - I just think WNEC has the potential to be good

MME 18, CGA 28 - CGA is heading for the rematch from last year in the NEFC championship (with the same results)

Curry 35, Nichols 10 - I am not convinced yet about Nichols, but I am convinced about Curry.

Fitchburg 21, Westfield 28 - I just don't think Fitchburg has it together this year.

MIT 10, PSU 42 - PSU wants to get hback to winning and the Engineers although improved this year, just won't provide PSU with the competition

Worcester St. 28, BSC 35 - BSC is just the better team

OK, everybody let's get those pick in.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 26, 2007, 08:22:49 PM
UMD 31 EC 14

Framingham 24 MMA 6

WNEC 21 SRU 7

CGA 33 MME 3

Curry 24 Nichols 7

Westfield 32 Fitchburg 29

PSU 31 MIT 30

BSC 24 WSC 3
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on October 28, 2007, 09:09:55 AM
what is going on with EC this year? I never thought that they would be the Framingham State of the NEFC but it's starting to look that way. They have assured themselves the worst record in the programs short history, other than the first year playing a jv schedule.

Congrats to Curry and USCGA....looks like a repeat of last years title game, good luck to both.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 28, 2007, 02:21:44 PM
 screw the[b ]karma I'm back it kinda pissed me off I got - karma for nothing,and NO Ididn't mean #1 Curry for the nation you dope . I meant for the Eastern region. Seeeings that Curry was 7 & 0 when I brought it up ,when the other team was 6 & 0 . That's what I meant , not for the nation you DORK!!!

What other team in the NEFC has 2 shut outs this year ? Yes that is a question .

If that was who I think it was giving the - Karma , good for you . If you look back on these pages , who do you think put a little breath in these pages . If thats how your going to be than give a - 100 karma  and I be quiet then if not than restore my KARMA , I'm a little sensitive DON"T YOU KNOW . THANKYOU in advance


                                              NLNG]
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 28, 2007, 03:01:23 PM
                LOL
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 28, 2007, 05:52:04 PM
NLNG, I am not sure how Karma is determined, but your karma has been the same for a while (-2).  If one can vote for Karma, I think you shoudl get some Karma, because you do add a lot to this site and have done a lot to get us to push over 100,   I missed your picks last weekend.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 28, 2007, 07:24:59 PM
NGL - your out of control my friend, but i sympathize with your complaints haha... further the CGA vs MME came was alot closer than people realized...good game... congrats to CGA and Curry who will be playing each other for the championship... by the way EC is no framingham state - framingham state embarrassed themselvs with a lopsidded loss to Mass Martime...what happen there good god
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: boobyhasgameyo on October 28, 2007, 07:53:31 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 28, 2007, 02:21:44 PM
screw the[b ]karma I'm back it kinda pissed me off I got - karma for nothing,and NO Ididn't mean #1 Curry for the nation you dope . I meant for the Eastern region. Seeeings that Curry was 7 & 0 when I brought it up ,when the other team was 6 & 0 . That's what I meant , not for the nation you DORK!!!

What other team in the NEFC has 2 shut outs this year ? Yes that is a question .

If that was who I think it was giving the - Karma , good for you . If you look back on these pages , who do you think put a little breath in these pages . If thats how your going to be than give a - 100 karma  and I be quiet then if not than restore my KARMA , I'm a little sensitive DON"T YOU KNOW . THANKYOU in advance


                                              NLNG]


I don't think he was implying you meant 1 in the Nation there chief.....He was referring to the Eastern Region #1 ranking which you were previously saying Curry deserves apparently. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Touchdown23 on October 29, 2007, 01:33:52 PM
I was surprised to see no one talking about the Curry-Nichols game. I was at the game in Dudley and would like to share a few of my thoughts. Yes Curry won the game and in no way am I trying to take anything away from them.... but they didn't seem like the Curry squad I am use to seeing. They were extremely quiet-at the half after leaving the field leading 14 -12.  I had always noticed them yelling and showing confidence like no other team in the league. Not sure if they were a little surprised by the score, or truly a little nervous as to how Nichols was outplaying them in the 1st half.

Curry's first score was set up by a long punt return. Can't really blame the Nichols defense for allowing them to punch it in from only about 15 yards if my memory is correct as to where they started with the ball. 

Curry also had a blocked punt for a touchdown. 

Curry's 1 yard touchdown run to end the first half was set up by a poor quick kick kicked by the Nichols qb on 3rd down ( punt only went about 15 yards) Curry took over on around nichols 20 yard line with under a minute to go.

Again, Curry set up all that field position and executed on the blocked punt for the score but what I am getting at is that the game was much closer than the score indicated.  Curry was also forced to settle for 3 field goals.

Yes Curry won the game and yes they are a very good team, but I must say Nichols college gave them one of if not the best games this season. Nichols has come a long way over the last few years and if they can keep their young talent enrolled at the school they have a legitimate shot to be a great team for the next few years. 

Recap of this long (maybe bad to some) post- 1.Curry was awfully quiet and Nichols young team was not in any way intimidated by their players or previous league domination in the game. 2. Curry's scores were not hard earned. 3. Nichols proved they are a solid team. 4. Nichols held their offense to 23 points while Curry had been averaging over 40 ppag. 5. Although I would truely love to see our league get its first win, i dont see it happening this year with that Curry team.  I could be way off and sound like a fool if they do indeed get it done, but thats just my opinion after seeing them play.

Responses to this encouraged.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Touchdown23 on October 29, 2007, 01:46:25 PM
Heres a few more things i left out that may get some more chatter going here.

Nichols had 5 sacks against Curry's large/excellent o-line.

Nichols was 1-13 on 3rd down conversions. (Due to Curry's D or Nichols O)?

Nichols freshman qb's threw 4 INT's.

Curry 18 first downs- Nichols 18 first downs.

Curry's 9 penalties for 110 yards. A few personal fouls when things weren't going their way.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 29, 2007, 06:19:38 PM
 T-23 I feel your pain ! It's in the end when it counts though . I have to disagree with you on Curry , I think they have what it takes to win this year .

     They ( CURRY ) probably took Nichols lightly after PSU took them to the house > Whereas Curry spanked PSU .

    Curry can take it to another level when they need to .

                             "just my opinion though "

                                       NLNG

P.S.
                   SCREW THE KARMA  ----------------LOL
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Touchdown23 on October 29, 2007, 09:45:42 PM
If they came into the game taking Nichols lightly, all that would have changed in the second half once they realized they had a game on their hands.

They had their chance to take it to another level in the second half, and did not. They scored 16 points.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 30, 2007, 04:45:46 AM
  OK T-23 I've got your point. So what your saying is , if Curry had turned it up a notch , the score should have been like 56--12 .  I totally understand now.                           
                                           NOT

I'm waiting here patiently for my KARMA  , where is it ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Touchdown23 on October 30, 2007, 03:02:06 PM
NLNG you said they have the ability to turn it up a notch whenever needed, it was needed and they failed to do so. I don't really understand  how i am wrong by saying that?

Like i said they scored 16 points in the second half, by no means is that a team averaging over 40 points a game "turning it up".
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 30, 2007, 05:19:34 PM
 OK I quit you win , I was wrong .
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 30, 2007, 06:29:02 PM
NLNG, playing nice with others might help get your some Karma. 

I read where Curry plans to play a lot of their Srs. this week agsint UMD so it may be a closer game than one would expect.  Of course that also means some players may get to rest up for the championship game against the Coasties. 

If we can get everyone putting their picks in this week and then get some more discussions about the NEFC championship, ECAC picks, and the chances of NEFC finally winning an NCAA game we might be able to go past 110 pages before everyone goes into hiberation for the winter, summer, and spring.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 30, 2007, 06:35:21 PM
 63 I have been playing nice . I will keep playing nice too . Who needs that Karma BS anyhow . I 'll still be here this year and many more to come.

My picks will be in early this week because I missed last weeks picks .
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 30, 2007, 06:59:00 PM
 BridgeH2O-----36-----MAM ------21

Westfield ------21-----Worcester---24   pretty evenly matched

Cga -------------24-----Framingham--28  upset

  Mit---------------28-----Ec-----------17  turnovers killed Ec this year

Umd-------------42------Curry--------41 playing alot of seniors

MEM-------------21------Fitch-----17  just better

Nichols---------21-------Wnec-----24  they just need this one

Psu--------------35------Salve------24  just because
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Touchdown23 on October 31, 2007, 12:31:44 AM
I would like to get some chatter going here about some of the top players in each division. Who do you think should be Offensive/Defensive players of the year on both sides?  Maybe some younger guys too who we might see as studs in the next few years as well.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: WNEC11 on October 31, 2007, 01:24:35 PM
I'll be playing football for WNEC in the fall but will be attending in the spring and participate in spring ball. What can you guys tell me about WNEC?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 31, 2007, 06:37:58 PM
 WNEC11

   I think they're a good club . Fairly new coach implementing his plays . thier record didn't really show how good they are , but in my opinion they're a good team . At this level you play for the "love of the game". Not many kids make the "BIG SHOW" from here. NEFC is a competitive league with alot of kids that played together or against in H.S.

   My son plays now ( DIII ) and he loves it . Like I said before it's for the love of the game . Hope this helps .

                                      NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 31, 2007, 06:43:47 PM
Quote from: WNEC11 on October 31, 2007, 01:24:35 PM
I'll be playing football for WNEC in the fall but will be attending in the spring and participate in spring ball. What can you guys tell me about WNEC?

you sure they have spring ball?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 31, 2007, 07:58:44 PM
                                  T-23

I'll do my best in picking the studs ( not including lineman )

      Upper classman                                             rookies (almost )
 
             JT                                                                    George
     RVDegiesen                                                            Thorton
           Mack                                                                  St O
          Miller                                                                    Caps
           D.Co                                                                     Vas
          S Mac                                                                   Callihan
       'The" Mark                                                                JJ brooks
         Fielding                                                                    Green
         Braley                                                                       S Miller
         Bonn                                                                           CJ
         Pinto                                                                         Argue
         Leighton                                                                   Smith
                                                                                           "Tiger"
                                                                                          Hassett
                                                                                           " HOW now"
                                                                                           Johnson
                                                                                           " The CHEF "
                                                                                             Chandler
Sorry if I missed a few but thats what I come up with

Again remember  the hogs that open those holes NO LINE NO GLORY
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 31, 2007, 10:56:58 PM
you seemed to get most of them ...kids i saw at framingham were both miller the rb is going to be a good one and the lb miller will be good... the best player i have seen this year is felding from westfield a good lb...i think george from coast guard is a stud but the player of the year will prob. be harold from umass D and i believe felding shoudl be def. ... salve has some good lb including a kid named beranducchi or something when i saw them play...was on the field alot and made alot of plays but slave is weak as a team... i also think pinto is the best interior linemen in the leauge and should get some consideration as def. player of the year...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: WNEC11 on October 31, 2007, 11:21:14 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 31, 2007, 06:43:47 PM
you sure they have spring ball?

yeah, I talked to the coach about it already.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on November 01, 2007, 12:40:37 PM
wnec has a decent program they proved that by beating hartwick this year but then fell off the radar this season....

What does everyone think about this weeks games and then the championship?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 01, 2007, 06:59:39 PM
                   X7306

I'd have to agree with you with the choice of Tommy Pinto . He definetly has a nose for the ball , he reads the plays and pursues very well . He would be my first pick as well .
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 01, 2007, 07:06:28 PM
      JT is the stud ...... the kids of the future are GEORGE &  the man from "MARS" MARlon Thorton .
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mel on November 01, 2007, 08:25:09 PM
George from CGA is a Senior.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 02, 2007, 05:11:56 AM
Sorry Mel my bad .................ST ONGE is what I meant he's a SOPH @ Salve
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 02, 2007, 08:21:40 AM
NLNG that is impressive picking so early in the week.  Way to get it started.  Here are my picks for this last week of regular season in the NEFC.

BSC 32 MMA 7 - No contest

WSC 21 WSC 24 - Take your pick.  Actually I picked Worcester simply because they are at home on the last home game for the SRs. 

CGA 28 Framingham 10 - CGA will be preparing for the big game next week at Curry

MIT 21 EC 18 - EC has not shown anything this season and MIT has been playing great lately.  Also EC seems to have some struggles against MIT.  At least it ends a dismal season for the Gulls.

UMD 14 Curry 35 - I don't care if they are playing the SRs.  I think Curry wants the undefeated season especially the SRs.  Of course it won't be their last home game since they will be playing CGA in the NEFC Championship game next week.

MME 35 Framingham 14 - MME is just better and Framingham showed a little improvment early but then returned to their losing ways.

Nichols 42 WNEC 10 - Nichols wants to finsh strong and hope for the ECAC invite.   WNEC ends a disappointing season.

PSC 42 SRU 7 - PSC also looking for the ECAC bid and SRU is just bad.


Good luck to all of the SRs playing their final college football game.





Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on November 02, 2007, 05:40:53 PM
Terrible weather for most teams this week in the NEFC.

Curry 48  Darmouth 6 -No JT Harlod to help out running game

BSC   28   MMA 7-

CGA   28   Framingham 10

Worcester St. 21   Wesfield  14

Endicott 7   MIT 17- MIT has stronger running game and with tommorows weather..

PSU 34    SRU 20

WNEC 12  Nichols 26

MME 38   Fitchburg 32- No defense for Fitchburg

This is a time in the year where seniors hate to see come. Good luck to all.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 02, 2007, 07:14:52 PM
     where is every one ? c-mon lets get some more picks in !

I need more - karma !!! Bring it Frackie or Patty whom ever it is !

                             YEE HAA!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on November 02, 2007, 10:21:10 PM
nlng where are your picks...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 03, 2007, 07:17:18 AM
        on page #104
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 03, 2007, 10:21:18 AM
                      SATURDAY   PICKS

                GULL , DUD , BOX , MIX , GRAD

                          Where are your picks?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 04, 2007, 07:36:53 PM
i was away for the week... sorry about having no picks...Curry is third in the east region in the rankings right now...i think this could be the year they win us a game
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 05, 2007, 06:21:07 PM
 Let's GO CURRY !!!!!!!!!! Make all of us happy in the NEFC !!!!!!!

                              THIS IS YOUR YEAR !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 05, 2007, 06:41:13 PM
 Do you really think all that negative karma IS GOING TO GET ME TO STOP TALKING ............NOT 

Whose the guy in the big shoes dissing me anyhow ?  Fess up so we can be friends .

Alright already I made 1 dumb post and I become your whipping boy , If I had control of your keyboard I'd fix it , but I don't , so please do.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on November 06, 2007, 11:12:48 AM
This weeks AFCA poll is out and Curry has been ranked #22. I believe that this is the first time ever. NEFC could be our year to win one.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on November 06, 2007, 03:43:00 PM
Not the first time an NEFC team has been ranked in the top 25.  Let's see who get's to the dance and who they are playing before anyone starts thinking that this is the year... 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 07, 2007, 05:01:17 PM
ECAC Potential Playoff Teams (Declared as of Last Thursday's Deadline)

1(*). 10-0 - Curry College (NEFC)
1(*). 8-1 - Coast Guard Academy (NEFC)
2. 8-1 - Plymouth State University (NEFC)
3/4(**). 8-1 - St. John Fisher College (E8)
5. 7-1 - Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (LL)
3/4(**). 7-2 - Alfred University (E8)
6(***). 7-2 - Cortland State (NJAC)
3/4(**). 7-2 - Hartwick College (E8)
6(***). 7-2 - Hobart College (LL)
6(***). 7-2 - Ithaca College (E8)
---------------------------------------------------
6-3 - Bridgewater State College (NEFC)
6-3 - University of Rochester (LL)
5-3 - Union College (LL)
5-4 - Nichols College (NEFC)

Generally, the Top 6 eligible teams that have not qualified for the NCAA Tournament will be selected.

* - NEFC Championship game will determine one of these teams as an AQ from Pool A.

** - One of these schools will win AQ from Pool A.  The two others may win a Pool C bid, but for now, we count them in the ECAC rankings.

*** - Tied.  However, Cortland and Ithaca play each other.  Hobart could still win Pool C bid or LL title.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 07, 2007, 05:59:39 PM
Ill probably end up going to the Curry/CG game.  Noon start though!  Interesting note though is that CG head coach (Bill George) and DC (Ray Laforte) are both Ithaca grads and former coaches while Curry DC is former Ithaca grad and coach Todd "Butch" Nestor.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on November 07, 2007, 06:20:20 PM
This should be a great game to watch. I do believe that Curry has a stronger team overall than CGA does. CGA has a good sytem going for them but Curry will be to much for them. If Curry wins what are their chances of a home playoff game? What Pool will they be in?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on November 07, 2007, 11:51:41 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 07, 2007, 05:59:39 PM
Ill probably end up going to the Curry/CG game.  Noon start though!  Interesting note though is that CG head coach (Bill George) and DC (Ray Laforte) are both Ithaca grads and former coaches while Curry DC is former Ithaca grad and coach Todd "Butch" Nestor.


About time the NEFC representative made it to an NEFC game.

Utah, with your knowledge of the NEFC, how do you see this game playing out??  Can you give an overview of the Curry 'D' versus Coast Guard 'O' and vice-versa??  Any thoughts on special teams play??
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gullgrad on November 08, 2007, 07:17:06 AM
Here is my take on it.  I have seen Curry play this year and they are rather impressive.  Their O looks better than it has in years past.  On the other hand, the Curry D does not look as good as they have before.  I think they will have a tough time with that CG O.  But with an improved O on their side, I think Curry wins by 6.  35-29.  Good luck to both teams.

What went wrong gulls???
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 08, 2007, 07:20:15 AM
Quote from: Union89 on November 07, 2007, 11:51:41 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 07, 2007, 05:59:39 PM
Ill probably end up going to the Curry/CG game.  Noon start though!  Interesting note though is that CG head coach (Bill George) and DC (Ray Laforte) are both Ithaca grads and former coaches while Curry DC is former Ithaca grad and coach Todd "Butch" Nestor.


About time the NEFC representative made it to an NEFC game.

Utah, with your knowledge of the NEFC, how do you see this game playing out??  Can you give an overview of the Curry 'D' versus Coast Guard 'O' and vice-versa??  Any thoughts on special teams play??

I know.  And Im gonna be late probably too.

But I see CGA as kind of a Hartwick with an offense that can suprise anyone in the country, but with a defense that will be able to hold its own, but is still shaky.

As for Curry, they are starting to be sort of a powerhouse of sorts in MA, with good talent pools comming from a bunch of big high schools from various coaches.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jdog on November 08, 2007, 08:54:46 AM
With all the talk about the Curry vs Coast Guard NEFC Championship game and how good CGA is. How easily one forgets that Plymouth State's only loss came to Curry and PSU defeated CGA 38-19.  They shut down George the QB and the rest of the offense; PSU's offense rushed and passed all over CGA's defense.  So if Curry wins the NEFC championship game wouldn't that make CGA 8-2 and wouldn't that make PSU at 8-1 the #1 team for ECAC according to the logic that seems to be out there.  How everyone forgets about head to head match ups. It seems that PSU is getting no respect in the NEFC. Quick Stat note: PSU defense has totaled 3 shut outs this season most in the NEFC next closest is 1. Also they rank 2nd in Total Defense & Scoring Defense behind only Curry. Good luck to Curry they are by far the best team with the best players in the NEFC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on November 08, 2007, 09:29:17 AM
Quote from: jdog on November 08, 2007, 08:54:46 AM
With all the talk about the Curry vs Coast Guard NEFC Championship game and how good CGA is. How easily one forgets that Plymouth State's only loss came to Curry and PSU defeated CGA 38-19.  They shut down George the QB and the rest of the offense; PSU's offense rushed and passed all over CGA's defense.  So if Curry wins the NEFC championship game wouldn't that make CGA 8-2 and wouldn't that make PSU at 8-1 the #1 team for ECAC according to the logic that seems to be out there.  How everyone forgets about head to head match ups. It seems that PSU is getting no respect in the NEFC. Quick Stat note: PSU defense has totaled 3 shut outs this season most in the NEFC next closest is 1. Also they rank 2nd in Total Defense & Scoring Defense behind only Curry. Good luck to Curry they are by far the best team with the best players in the NEFC.


Dude, wake up....the winner of the Curry/CG game gets an AQ to the NCAA's....you are correct in that people have no interest in PSC because they are not playing for the Championship this weekend.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 08, 2007, 10:14:38 AM
Quote from: Union89 on November 08, 2007, 09:29:17 AM
Quote from: jdog on November 08, 2007, 08:54:46 AM
With all the talk about the Curry vs Coast Guard NEFC Championship game and how good CGA is. How easily one forgets that Plymouth State's only loss came to Curry and PSU defeated CGA 38-19.  They shut down George the QB and the rest of the offense; PSU's offense rushed and passed all over CGA's defense.  So if Curry wins the NEFC championship game wouldn't that make CGA 8-2 and wouldn't that make PSU at 8-1 the #1 team for ECAC according to the logic that seems to be out there.  How everyone forgets about head to head match ups. It seems that PSU is getting no respect in the NEFC. Quick Stat note: PSU defense has totaled 3 shut outs this season most in the NEFC next closest is 1. Also they rank 2nd in Total Defense & Scoring Defense behind only Curry. Good luck to Curry they are by far the best team with the best players in the NEFC.


Dude, wake up....the winner of the Curry/CG game gets an AQ to the NCAA's....you are correct in that people have no interest in PSC because they are not playing for the Championship this weekend.

Curry has had several shots at winning a postseason game and hasnt done it.  I'd like to see Coast Guard win this weekend and give it a shot.  Atleast they have a past that includes beating some decent teams. 

Based on the d3.com projections, if they fell that way, Curry would get Hartwick...Coast Guard would probably have a lower ranking and play a higher ranked team.  Hartwick travelling to Curry could be an interesting game.  Hartwick is known to play MUCH better at home.

So...I guess I talked myself out of my original statement.  IF Curry were to get paired with Hartwick...MAYBE...just MAYBE...they could give Hartwick a half decent game.

Unfortunately, I don't understand, based on past performance, HOW a NEFC team can get a higher ranking than 8 in the region, but I guess, if they are ever going to win a game, they would have to host, and play a lower ranked team.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 08, 2007, 10:40:59 AM
lewdog i respect your opinion, but i have seen both Curry and CGA play and Curry is the better team, if Curry plays Hartwick that is a favorable matchup for Curry, lets not forget for some unknown reason WNEC beat Hartwick up and Curry beat Hartwick 49-3 or something crazy...not saying that means anything but i think Curry will give Hartwick more than a decent game and actually have a real shot at winning
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 09, 2007, 08:17:09 AM
I think Curry is a slightly better team than CGA this year and also has the home field advantage.  I pick Curry 28-20.  If Curry plays Hartwick at Curry, I think Curry has a good shot at finally winning one for the NEFC and making some other conference the laughing stock of the NEFC. 
Title: COACH OF THE YEAR
Post by: Findtheball on November 09, 2007, 10:04:01 AM
  I think Paul Castonia should be "COACH OF THE YEAR"
He brought PSU from a 1-8 record to a 8-1 record in a 3yr span.
Having put up 3 shut outs this year says alot about his program. Paul was left with a team that haven't done any recruiting till he showed up .
This is why I nominate Coach C for coach of the year, hats of to you coach .
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on November 09, 2007, 10:53:49 AM
Casonia has been voted Coach of the Year and he deserves it for certian. Congratulations Coach!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: atn alum on November 09, 2007, 04:19:30 PM
Coast Guard at Curry broadcast
http://sportsjuice.com

pre-game at 1145am, kickoff at noon.

Feel free to tune in.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on November 09, 2007, 05:18:25 PM
Pat's take: Curry. You heard it here first – the Colonels might be able to win a playoff game this season if they beat Coast Guard and maintain their lofty seeding. But that's only because I can't take Olivet again this week after picking them for Week 10.


Finally there is something good coming out of a season of two very good Curry and Coast guard teams in the NEFC.

Should be a great game to watch and hopefully all you will be there as I will.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 09, 2007, 05:57:15 PM
  Curry will rip CGA apart tommorrow , I don't think it will be a contest at all.

If Curry's defense steps up this could be a blood bath.

                       "just my opinion "
                                 NLNG

plus I have to stay ahead of my CCARR-Ma
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 09, 2007, 05:58:40 PM
        47-17   Curry
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on November 09, 2007, 08:15:29 PM
45-14 Curry
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on November 09, 2007, 08:26:15 PM
Curry 45-9 I think kicker will miss first PAT of the season

I agree with you nlng in your opinion that this could be a blood bath. i think both teams will show up but curry will be to much to handle
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 10, 2007, 01:51:32 AM
im going to go to the game tomomorrow...i think Curry wins in a good fashion with a 35- 9 thumping of CGA... if somehow CGA pulls off the upset there is still a slight chance Curry gets an at large bid... but lets just hope they win because they give the conference their best shot at winning a game in the NCAA's...

and congrats to Coach Castonia
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jimdeg on November 10, 2007, 07:20:28 AM
Go Bears
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on November 10, 2007, 01:36:27 PM
7-7 at halftime
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 10, 2007, 04:15:35 PM
Curry won 10-7.  Ill have details later.  What a finish though......
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 10, 2007, 07:50:35 PM
ECAC Potential Playoff Teams (Declared as of Last Thursday's Deadline)

1. 8-1 - Plymouth State University (NEFC)
2. 8-2 - Coast Guard Academy (NEFC)
3. 7-2 - Ithaca College (E8)
4. 7-3 - Alfred University (E8)
5. 7-3 - Cortland State (NJAC)
6. 6-3 - Bridgewater State College (NEFC)
---------------------------------------------------
5-4 - Union College (LL)
6-4 - University of Rochester (LL)
5-4 - Nichols College (NEFC)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mel on November 10, 2007, 08:34:02 PM
UTAH, Tell us the details.  I expected a big score from Curry.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: irish on November 10, 2007, 10:47:16 PM
Coast Guard should've won the game on halfback option from Lynch to England with around 40 seconds left but England got his feet tangled up as he had to turn for the ball. Christian George (Player of the Year-Bogan) left the game in 3rd QTR. Is Curry that good? Will find out next week!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 11, 2007, 01:31:01 AM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 10, 2007, 07:37:18 PM
ECAC Potential Playoff Teams (Declared as of Last Thursday's Deadline)

1. 8-1 - Plymouth State University (NEFC)
2. 8-2 - Coast Guard Academy (NEFC)
3. 7-2 - Ithaca College (E8)
4. 7-3 - Alfred University (E8)
5. 7-3 - Cortland State (NJAC)
6. 6-3 - Bridgewater State College (NEFC)
---------------------------------------------------
5-4 - Union College (LL)
6-4 - University of Rochester (LL)
5-4 - Nichols College (NEFC)

ATTENTION NICHOLS FANS

According to a reliable source, Ithaca withdrew from ECAC Playoff consideration last week.  Therefore, the sixth slot is open for Union, Rochester and Nichols.  Since there are already three teams chosen from New England, it is likely that another New York team will be selected.  Therefore, Union or Rochester will likely be selected for the final ECAC slot.   The conference call will be held at 8pm EST Sunday.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 11, 2007, 01:36:19 AM
Curry needs that lofty ranking to win our first NCAA game... Curry was not that sharp and should of lost that game... if Curry gets Hartwick in the first round i think that is their only shot at winning... any other team i think will beat Curry... but congrats to them for winning... Hartwick cant stop anyone this year so i hope they get them...cuz i think Curry will be able to score at will nad Curry will be able to stop Hartwick hopefully once in route to a win for the NEFC... but lets not forget everyone else is rooting against us so lets up Curry suprises us and wins one for the NEFC
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 11, 2007, 03:36:34 AM
Quote from: mel on November 10, 2007, 08:34:02 PM
UTAH, Tell us the details.  I expected a big score from Curry.

Good defensive game throughout here.  CG played a good bend but dont break kind of defense that kept them in it till the 4th.  Then, with less than one minute left with CG driving down 10-7, they run an option pass right.  The WR was wide open down the right sideline!  Decent throw by the RB to the WR but as someone pointed out, he got tangled up in his own feet and fell down with the ball around Currys 35 or so.  Then with no timeouts, Curry has a 2nd down play around their 20 yard line and the QB takes a sack putting them back to about the 30 and just out of the FG range.  Missed FG and Curry won it.

You could tell Curry probably had the better team overall.  80% of their plays were off tackle running plays from the same formation ( I twins/twins over) that CG had a tough time stopping.  Currys oline was pretty big, (6'0+/250+ across the board) and CGs defense was one of the smallest Ive seen at the d3 level.  I thought Curry could have mixed up their offensive a little more with some play action/boots but they stuck with the run a little too much which I think hurt them at the end (In terms of scoring).

CG's qb got hurt in the 3rd quarter and that probably hurt them the most.  But the backup looked like he had a good arm, but was not a threat to run like george. 

How will Curry do in the playoffs? 

I think their offense looked good, but a power running game that I saw will not work against bigger national teams.  It looked like Curry had some decent tall Wrs and the QB made some nice throws, but they stuck to that running game a little too much against CG.  Currys RBs were solid tough runners, but didnt look like they had great speed (I actually liked #26 better than the starter).  The online was very good I thought, and was the key to the running game.  They were up against a very small CG defense though, and it was a defense that came up big in key situations.

I was actually impressed a little more with Currys defense today.  Big physical d-backs and a decent sized dline.  They looked good against CG, but who knows if they have the real size and strength up front to stop a power running game.  Their team defensive speed could also be questioned.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on November 11, 2007, 12:36:05 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 11, 2007, 03:36:34 AM
Quote from: mel on November 10, 2007, 08:34:02 PM
UTAH, Tell us the details.  I expected a big score from Curry.

Good defensive game throughout here.  CG played a good bend but dont break kind of defense that kept them in it till the 4th.  Then, with less than one minute left with CG driving down 10-7, they run an option pass right.  The WR was wide open down the right sideline!  Decent throw by the RB to the WR but as someone pointed out, he got tangled up in his own feet and fell down with the ball around Currys 35 or so.  Then with no timeouts, Curry has a 2nd down play around their 20 yard line and the QB takes a sack putting them back to about the 30 and just out of the FG range.  Missed FG and Curry won it.

You could tell Curry probably had the better team overall.  80% of their plays were off tackle running plays from the same formation ( I twins/twins over) that CG had a tough time stopping.  Currys oline was pretty big, (6'0+/250+ across the board) and CGs defense was one of the smallest Ive seen at the d3 level.  I thought Curry could have mixed up their offensive a little more with some play action/boots but they stuck with the run a little too much which I think hurt them at the end (In terms of scoring).

CG's qb got hurt in the 3rd quarter and that probably hurt them the most.  But the backup looked like he had a good arm, but was not a threat to run like george. 

How will Curry do in the playoffs? 

I think their offense looked good, but a power running game that I saw will not work against bigger national teams.  It looked like Curry had some decent tall Wrs and the QB made some nice throws, but they stuck to that running game a little too much against CG.  Currys RBs were solid tough runners, but didnt look like they had great speed (I actually liked #26 better than the starter).  The online was very good I thought, and was the key to the running game.  They were up against a very small CG defense though, and it was a defense that came up big in key situations.

I was actually impressed a little more with Currys defense today.  Big physical d-backs and a decent sized dline.  They looked good against CG, but who knows if they have the real size and strength up front to stop a power running game.  Their team defensive speed could also be questioned.


+1 for a solid synopsis
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mel on November 11, 2007, 01:23:12 PM
IMO, The NEFC got hosed by the NCAA...
It is unfathomable that the E8 got three NCAA teams into the bracket.
WNEC beat Hartwick handily.... Hartwick goes and wins the E8 beating both Ithaca and StJF.
After yesterdays showing v Curry jury needs to be out on the NEFC.
Curry, Plymouth, CGA and Bridgewater can hold their own v an E8 team.
Both Curry and Plymouth hammered WNEC but the Hartwick loss is discounted for Ithaca.

We need for Curry to defeat Hartwick otherwise it is another year of disrespect.

We really need for the Boyd and Bogan go become their own leagues and let the winners of that claim the automatic bids.  There are alot of bad 7 team leagues getting the AQ.

Crank it up Curry and get those WR's healthy.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 11, 2007, 03:32:32 PM
Quote from: mel on November 11, 2007, 01:23:12 PM
IMO, The NEFC got hosed by the NCAA...
It is unfathomable that the E8 got three NCAA teams into the bracket.
WNEC beat Hartwick handily.... Hartwick goes and wins the E8 beating both Ithaca and StJF.
After yesterdays showing v Curry jury needs to be out on the NEFC.
Curry, Plymouth, CGA and Bridgewater can hold their own v an E8 team.
Both Curry and Plymouth hammered WNEC but the Hartwick loss is discounted for Ithaca.

We need for Curry to defeat Hartwick otherwise it is another year of disrespect.

We really need for the Boyd and Bogan go become their own leagues and let the winners of that claim the automatic bids.  There are alot of bad 7 team leagues getting the AQ.

Crank it up Curry and get those WR's healthy.

Curry not only has to beat Hartwick, but they probably will have to lose by less than 3 TDs in the next game (except if its Mt Union)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mel on November 11, 2007, 04:30:22 PM
A Curry win over the E8 AQ is enough.  My argument is the E8 does not deserve three slots.  Take their champ and the runner up that is all.
Now Curry needs to win nearly twice.. that is a push in my estimation.

Plymouth has a very solid argument for being upset.
Their only loss is to an 11-0 team and they beat the two time champion from the Bogan (CGA) with a very solid effort.

The people from the E8 board are saying that WNEC's win over Hartwick is discounted because it was early.

But Plymouths win over CGA is not mentioned.
CGA showed they can play with Curry step for step yesterday for the second straight year.
Curry has won 51 of it's last 54.

Plymouth should be in and the Bombers should be out.
Three from the E8 is too many.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 11, 2007, 08:07:17 PM
Quote from: mel on November 11, 2007, 04:30:22 PM
A Curry win over the E8 AQ is enough.  My argument is the E8 does not deserve three slots.  Take their champ and the runner up that is all.
Now Curry needs to win nearly twice.. that is a push in my estimation.

Plymouth has a very solid argument for being upset.
Their only loss is to an 11-0 team and they beat the two time champion from the Bogan (CGA) with a very solid effort.

The people from the E8 board are saying that WNEC's win over Hartwick is discounted because it was early.

But Plymouths win over CGA is not mentioned.
CGA showed they can play with Curry step for step yesterday for the second straight year.
Curry has won 51 of it's last 54.

Plymouth should be in and the Bombers should be out.
Three from the E8 is too many.

I disagree.

Coach Castonia has done an amazing job up there and the guy is a good coach.  But....he had a chance to play a nonleague team that could have showcased his team nationally (or regionally I should say).  And the team he chose was Mt Ida and he didnt beat them by much.  Now if he had beaten a decent E8 or LL team or SUNY team....then they might have something to say.

And you really cant look at the E8 as having "3 slots".  Every E8 team plays 4 nonleague games.  Ithaca played 2 MAC teams, an ACFC team, and an NJAC team.  Granted now the MAC teams were last place teams, but the ACFC team was average, and the NJAC team they beat was #2 in their conference.  So although Ithaca is in the E8, they still have to play 4 regional games.

My point here is that E8 teams play enough nonleague games to show their worth overall.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: boobyhasgameyo on November 11, 2007, 08:14:37 PM
The fact is your league is referencing one game (Hartwick losing to a crap team in your conference) as the sole reason the E8 doesn't deserve three bids.  Your conference has had a chance to prove itself in the playoffs year in and year out and you simply haven't.  Hartwick is not the power of the E8, they played some nice games throughout the year but they are inconsistent to say the least.  They beat Ithaca and Fisher on one hand but yet lost to a terrible team in WNEC and almost lost to two terrible teams in Norwich and Utica.  If Curry beats Hartwick in round 1 they still won't get credit in many peoples' minds unless they win in the next round when they actually play a battle tested program be it Hobart or St. John Fisher.  Good luck and have fun!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mel on November 11, 2007, 08:46:11 PM
I do agree completely that the NEFC does little to help itself in terms of non league play.
The crossover games in week two which are locked in do little to help the league.  AMOF it is Curry that needs to go out and get a non conference game in week one, that seems to be a must.  I think it is only CGA and WENC that had out of conference games in weeks one and two.
CGA seems to be locked into their game with Kings Point and WENC had Hartwick.
I can not argue any longer.
Just by the posts in the NEFC threads you can tell that no one really cares about the league, I mean with 16 teams involved there are barely enough posts to get interest over 110 pages.
The E8 has over 1100 pages of posts.

Once again, a Curry loss would set the league (NEFC) back in any argument for years. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 11, 2007, 08:52:35 PM
Quote from: mel on November 11, 2007, 08:46:11 PM
I do agree completely that the NEFC does little to help itself in terms of non league play.
The crossover games in week two which are locked in do little to help the league.  AMOF it is Curry that needs to go out and get a non conference game in week one, that seems to be a must.  I think it is only CGA and WENC that had out of conference games in weeks one and two.
CGA seems to be locked into their game with Kings Point and WENC had Hartwick.
I can not argue any longer.
Just by the posts in the NEFC threads you can tell that no one really cares about the league, I mean with 16 teams involved there are barely enough posts to get interest over 110 pages.
The E8 has over 1100 pages of posts.

Once again, a Curry loss would set the league (NEFC) back in any argument for years. 

I dont think a Curry loss would set the league back that much.  Curry and Plymouth are two schools that have attracted national talent in the past.  They will continue to do well in the future as well.  CGA also has a good system and a team that is always dangerous to any d3 team.

Hartwick has one of the best offenses in the country.  In the country!  It should be a great game thats for sure.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on November 11, 2007, 09:01:44 PM
Mel, as it stands right now, Hartwick is indisputably the third best team in the E8. Frankly, if 'Wick played either Fisher or Ithaca on a neutral field this weekend, I sincerely doubt they'd stay within 2 TD's of either team. I have to give credit to Hartwick for making every single play they had to make in order to win in both the Ithaca and Fisher games. With that said, Ithaca has been rolling over teams the last six weeks and Fisher is a great team. It's unfortunate that Hartwick took the AQ, but that is why there are three E8 teams. It is obvious that the committee thought that Ithaca and Fisher deserved to be in (and they did)...but they had to let Hartwick in, too. Suck it up.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: met_fan on November 11, 2007, 10:25:28 PM
If it's going to happen for the NEFC it's going to be this year.  They get the weakest team in the region and avoid Ithaca.  If they can't do it now, I find it hard to envision a scenario when it's going to happen.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 12, 2007, 05:13:24 AM








   the hell with MEL
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mel on November 12, 2007, 08:24:27 AM
I knew it would come down to that...

I am done with this.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: irish on November 12, 2007, 08:37:01 AM
NLG, is that your first post since the blood bath?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 12, 2007, 11:07:00 AM
The NEFC has to be DREAMING if they think they should have gotten 2 teams into the tournament.  I mean, let's think reality here.  The NCAA would have rather brought in a team from the South Region if it needed to.  The NJAC coulda snuck another in as well.  Do you think a 9-1 Plymouth is more deserving than an 8-2 Montclair St. who beat Wilkes, Springfield, Wesley and Rowan???

You would have to be smoking something resembling a crack rock to believe that. 

I DO think Curry can win this week, with Hartwick at their place, since Hartwick doesn't play well on the road, but they could also lose by 4 touchdowns too. 

Bottom line, until the NEFC branches out and wins out of conference games against quality teams, year in and year out, they will have an AQ, and nothing more...and other than a few dreamers, I think everyone understands that.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Senor RedTackle on November 12, 2007, 11:20:30 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 12, 2007, 11:07:00 AM
The NEFC has to be DREAMING if they think they should have gotten 2 teams into the tournament.  I mean, let's think reality here.  The NCAA would have rather brought in a team from the South Region if it needed to.  The NJAC coulda snuck another in as well.  Do you think a 9-1 Plymouth is more deserving than an 8-2 Montclair St. who beat Wilkes, Springfield, Wesley and Rowan???

You would have to be smoking something resembling a crack rock to believe that. 

I DO think Curry can win this week, with Hartwick at their place, since Hartwick doesn't play well on the road, but they could also lose by 4 touchdowns too. 

Bottom line, until the NEFC branches out and wins out of conference games against quality teams, year in and year out, they will have an AQ, and nothing more...and other than a few dreamers, I think everyone understands that.


the NEFC could make a start by beating RPI when Endicott plays them. Everyone makes fun of RPI's weak out of conf. schedule but the flip side of that is that if the NEFC wants to get credibility, it could start improving its performance against regional powers like RPI. I agree w/ LD's sentiment...there's no way that the NEFC should get 2 teams in.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 12, 2007, 11:58:10 AM
I agree that E8 has earned the right to get 3 teams in the playoffs, while NEFC is lucky to get one in by AQ.  If Curry can beat Hartwick, which I think they should then maybe the NEFC will get a little more respect.  I also agree  that until the NEFC starts playing some tough out of conference opponents they will have no idea what a good team looks like.  Everyone in the NEFC thinks Curry is tough, but look at their record over the last few years when they played competition in the playoffs.   Although I congratulate PSC for a great season they did not earn the right to go to the playoffs.   Good luck Curry and let everyone speak their opinion here without sinking to name calling.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Senor RedTackle on November 12, 2007, 12:08:52 PM
Quote from: 63Center on November 12, 2007, 11:58:10 AM
I agree that E8 has earned the right to get 3 teams in the playoffs, while NEFC is lucky to get one in by AQ.  If Curry can beat Hartwick, which I think they should then maybe the NEFC will get a little more respect.  I also agree  that until the NEFC starts playing some tough out of conference opponents they will have no idea what a good team looks like.  Everyone in the NEFC thinks Curry is tough, but look at their record over the last few years when they played competition in the playoffs.   Although I congratulate PSC for a great season they did not earn the right to go to the playoffs.   Good luck Curry and let everyone speak their opinion here without sinking to name calling.

RPI is a "tough out of conf. opponent" ...you just need to add more. Endicott getting smoked by RPI doesn't help. Curry should add an E8 or LL team
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on November 12, 2007, 01:58:36 PM
First off, I agree with the last few posts here... I am a fan of the NEFC as I played in it once, but lets be objective here... There is no freakin' way 2 NEFC teams deserve to go to the playoffs... There are multiple other teams to be considered before somone like plymouth st. comes up on the list...

That being said, yes we all know what needs to be done for this conference to reach the next level, but its too damn big to do that.  It needs to split up one way or another, because there just isnt enough room on the schedule to play anything but a conference game. 

Good luck to Curry in the first round.  It will be interesting to see which Hartwick team shows up to play. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 12, 2007, 02:07:26 PM
Quote from: Senor RedTackle on November 12, 2007, 12:08:52 PM
Quote from: 63Center on November 12, 2007, 11:58:10 AM
I agree that E8 has earned the right to get 3 teams in the playoffs, while NEFC is lucky to get one in by AQ.  If Curry can beat Hartwick, which I think they should then maybe the NEFC will get a little more respect.  I also agree  that until the NEFC starts playing some tough out of conference opponents they will have no idea what a good team looks like.  Everyone in the NEFC thinks Curry is tough, but look at their record over the last few years when they played competition in the playoffs.   Although I congratulate PSC for a great season they did not earn the right to go to the playoffs.   Good luck Curry and let everyone speak their opinion here without sinking to name calling.

RPI is a "tough out of conf. opponent" ...you just need to add more. Endicott getting smoked by RPI doesn't help. Curry should add an E8 or LL team

SR Red Tackle,  I agree that RPI is a tough out of conference team and they have killed EC every year they have played.  What I meant was that other teams in the NEFC need to play some tough out of conference teams, such as RPI and Springfield ( to name just a couple).  Curry is probably the toughest team that many of the NEFC teams play each year and look what has happened to Curry in the playoffs.

RockRB11, I agree that the NEFC is too big and with the requirements to play each team in your division and a cross-over game there is no room for out of conference games.  If the NEFC would at least drop the cross-over game then teams would have a choice to play either a cross-over game or a tougher out of league team. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2007, 02:45:51 PM
Quote from: 63Center on November 12, 2007, 02:07:26 PM
Quote from: Senor RedTackle on November 12, 2007, 12:08:52 PM
Quote from: 63Center on November 12, 2007, 11:58:10 AM
I agree that E8 has earned the right to get 3 teams in the playoffs, while NEFC is lucky to get one in by AQ.  If Curry can beat Hartwick, which I think they should then maybe the NEFC will get a little more respect.  I also agree  that until the NEFC starts playing some tough out of conference opponents they will have no idea what a good team looks like.  Everyone in the NEFC thinks Curry is tough, but look at their record over the last few years when they played competition in the playoffs.   Although I congratulate PSC for a great season they did not earn the right to go to the playoffs.   Good luck Curry and let everyone speak their opinion here without sinking to name calling.

RPI is a "tough out of conf. opponent" ...you just need to add more. Endicott getting smoked by RPI doesn't help. Curry should add an E8 or LL team

SR Red Tackle,  I agree that RPI is a tough out of conference team and they have killed EC every year they have played.  What I meant was that other teams in the NEFC need to play some tough out of conference teams, such as RPI and Springfield ( to name just a couple).  Curry is probably the toughest team that many of the NEFC teams play each year and look what has happened to Curry in the playoffs.

RockRB11, I agree that the NEFC is too big and with the requirements to play each team in your division and a cross-over game there is no room for out of conference games.  If the NEFC would at least drop the cross-over game then teams would have a choice to play either a cross-over game or a tougher out of league team. 

They can all play one nonleague game.......
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mel on November 12, 2007, 03:16:31 PM
As sad as it may sound I bet many NEFC teams administrations do not want to travel and spend the $$$$$$$$ putting up their teams in a hotel for one night. That is probabally why a school like Curry just plays another NEFC team in week one before the cross over.
CGA is never dropping Merchant Marine in week one due to its rivalry.
The crossover game is a way for the Admins of the NEFC to collude and save money on travel.
This is the most activity this board has had in months, good to see the people putting up an opinion.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2007, 03:35:15 PM
Quote from: mel on November 12, 2007, 03:16:31 PM
As sad as it may sound I bet many NEFC teams administrations do not want to travel and spend the $$$$$$$$ putting up their teams in a hotel for one night. That is probabally why a school like Curry just plays another NEFC team in week one before the cross over.
CGA is never dropping Merchant Marine in week one due to its rivalry.
The crossover game is a way for the Admins of the NEFC to collude and save money on travel.
This is the most activity this board has had in months, good to see the people putting up an opinion.

Curry has the money do travel 50 guys once every 2 years.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 12, 2007, 10:53:36 PM
Utah is right... Curry has the money to play an E8 team... i think another step in the right direction for the conference is if Worcester St would beat teams like WPI in the pre season... heck i think maybe Curry should schedule WPI... teams have the money to travel and they should...remmeber every other year each team in the bogan has to travel to maine and stay over night ...therefore i think each Bogan team not going to Maine should at least try to play a E8 or LL team... i think it shoudl start with Bridgewater who def. has enough money to travel... teams like Springfied, West Conn, WPI, are all close enough for NEFC teams to travel to...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: oldcurryalum on November 13, 2007, 06:55:00 AM
Curry should entertain the idea about getting into or forming a new conference that is more competitive. The new competition will be good for the college and hopefully create more regional interest in the program.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on November 13, 2007, 10:34:13 AM
I believe that teams like the Curry and Bridgewaters and now Plymouth again need to play better competition. Maybe Curry should play RPI and Endicott Worcester since EC never gives RPI a run for their money.

Should be a good test for the NEFC this weekend and I think that Curry has the better team overall with a strong defense and offense as well as a pretty sturdy special teams. while hartwick can strike quick on offense i am not to sold on their defense very much. Hopefully Curry can one for us this year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 13, 2007, 10:57:04 AM
Quote from: oldcurryalum on November 13, 2007, 06:55:00 AM
Curry should entertain the idea about getting into or forming a new conference that is more competitive. The new competition will be good for the college and hopefully create more regional interest in the program.

just add a few non conference games to boost experience in playing other teams in the area, then run through the NEFC and get the autobid.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 13, 2007, 05:54:08 PM
Quote from: defenseiskey on November 13, 2007, 10:34:13 AM
I believe that teams like the Curry and Bridgewaters and now Plymouth again need to play better competition. Maybe Curry should play RPI and Endicott Worcester since EC never gives RPI a run for their money.

Should be a good test for the NEFC this weekend and I think that Curry has the better team overall with a strong defense and offense as well as a pretty sturdy special teams. while hartwick can strike quick on offense i am not to sold on their defense very much. Hopefully Curry can one for us this year.

And once you get good, RPI will stop playing you anyway. ;)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: admirals_vt on November 13, 2007, 11:39:09 PM
Quote from: defenseiskey on November 13, 2007, 10:34:13 AM
I believe that teams like the Curry and Bridgewaters and now Plymouth again need to play better competition. Maybe Curry should play RPI and Endicott Worcester since EC never gives RPI a run for their money.

Should be a good test for the NEFC this weekend and I think that Curry has the better team overall with a strong defense and offense as well as a pretty sturdy special teams. while hartwick can strike quick on offense i am not to sold on their defense very much. Hopefully Curry can one for us this year.

You have no idea what your in for from this offense. You can not take away everthing on defense and they take what you give them and let it fly.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mel on November 14, 2007, 06:55:59 AM
Thanks to the ECAC for pairing Bridewater and Plyomouth... that is exactly what the NEFC needed.  To play each other time after time.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 14, 2007, 09:18:26 AM
Quote from: mel on November 14, 2007, 06:55:59 AM
Thanks to the ECAC for pairing Bridewater and Plyomouth... that is exactly what the NEFC needed.  To play each other time after time.


Its not like they arnt used to it, im sure they'd rather play each other and have a competitive game rather than get stomped by AU or Cortland.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 14, 2007, 09:21:01 AM
Quote from: Upstate on November 14, 2007, 09:18:26 AM
Quote from: mel on November 14, 2007, 06:55:59 AM
Thanks to the ECAC for pairing Bridewater and Plyomouth... that is exactly what the NEFC needed.  To play each other time after time.


Its not like they arnt used to it, im sure they'd rather play each other and have a competitive game rather than get stomped by AU or Cortland.

Yea but Id rather see the two regions mix it up.  Although the upstate teams/leagues (E8/LL/SUNY teams) have something to prove against each other as well.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: admirals_vt on November 14, 2007, 09:21:39 AM
Quote from: mel on November 14, 2007, 06:55:59 AM
Thanks to the ECAC for pairing Bridewater and Plyomouth... that is exactly what the NEFC needed.  To play each other time after time.


So in other words you would like the ECAC to do something that the teams in the NEFC won't do for themselves?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 14, 2007, 09:23:16 AM
Quote from: admirals_vt on November 14, 2007, 09:21:39 AM
Quote from: mel on November 14, 2007, 06:55:59 AM
Thanks to the ECAC for pairing Bridewater and Plyomouth... that is exactly what the NEFC needed.  To play each other time after time.


So in other words you would like the ECAC to do something that the teams in the NEFC won't do for themselves?

WERD!

+K
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 14, 2007, 11:35:14 AM
Quote from: mel on November 14, 2007, 06:55:59 AM
Thanks to the ECAC for pairing Bridewater and Plyomouth... that is exactly what the NEFC needed.  To play each other time after time.


The NEFC screamed to high heaven in 2002 after it got pounded in the ECAC's by upstate teams. Until then, games used to cross over.

Hartwick 69, Curry 14
Cortland State 30, Westfield State 7
RPI 55, Worcester State 29

The NEFC hasn't played a whole lot of outside competition since.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 14, 2007, 06:57:34 PM
 What's everybody take on PSU vs BSC for this Saturday ?
Do these teams play one and done ?
I have to cheer for Curry this weekend even though they kicked our hinee.

                               GO COLONELS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on November 14, 2007, 09:37:47 PM
Hartwick vs. Curry: Hartwick beats up on the NEFC.
Hawks 56, Curry 16.

Did you see this post on the Around the Region (East). I cant believe that he thinks Curry will be dominated like this by the Hawks. It will be a great game to watch and is our best opportunity to get a "W" in the NCAA.

I think the PSU/BSC matchup should  be a good one and I'll take PSU by about 10
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 14, 2007, 10:13:41 PM
Quote from: defenseiskey on November 14, 2007, 09:37:47 PM
Hartwick vs. Curry: Hartwick beats up on the NEFC.
Hawks 56, Curry 16.

Did you see this post on the Around the Region (East). I cant believe that he thinks Curry will be dominated like this by the Hawks. It will be a great game to watch and is our best opportunity to get a "W" in the NCAA.

I think the PSU/BSC matchup should  be a good one and I'll take PSU by about 10

This QB and offense for Wick is better this year than the one Curry faced in 02...

Final score to that game: Hartwick 69, Curry 14

The QB then had 360yds and 7tds
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 14, 2007, 11:21:32 PM
Upstate your are correct...and unfortunately i thinks Curry D was better in 02...but Hartwicks D is dreadful this year and that will keep the game close... im hoping curry will pull it out and i think this is the best chance they have...

i think PSU is better than Bridgewater and i think they win by 14... the two teams scrimmaged each other to start the year so there is some familiarity between the two...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 15, 2007, 05:47:10 AM
Quote from: Upstate on November 14, 2007, 10:13:41 PM
Quote from: defenseiskey on November 14, 2007, 09:37:47 PM
Hartwick vs. Curry: Hartwick beats up on the NEFC.
Hawks 56, Curry 16.

Did you see this post on the Around the Region (East). I cant believe that he thinks Curry will be dominated like this by the Hawks. It will be a great game to watch and is our best opportunity to get a "W" in the NCAA.

I think the PSU/BSC matchup should  be a good one and I'll take PSU by about 10

This QB and offense for Wick is better this year than the one Curry faced in 02...

Final score to that game: Hartwick 69, Curry 14

The QB then had 360yds and 7tds

I think Curry will score more points than 14 against that defense.  And I think playoff nerves might stop Hartwicks offense a little as well early.

Hartwick 42
Curry      31
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on November 15, 2007, 02:57:39 PM
Curry is a better team than back in 2002. Hartwick is strong at WR and QB with a RB who gets alot of all-purpose yards but I disagree with the blow outs people think from this game.
Curry 34
Hartwick 28

Like I mentioned before I'll take PSU over BSC as well
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: oldcurryalum on November 15, 2007, 11:54:09 PM
Curry will take Hartwick to the woodshed and give them a dose of reality.

Curry 28   Hartwick 20
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 16, 2007, 08:25:46 AM
OK, time to weigh in on these games.  I am picking Curry over Hartwick 28-24 for the following reasons:  Curry has home field, I want teh NEFC to finally win a playoff game, Hartwick's defense is weaker than Curry's and offensively I think they are about equal.

PSC 35 BSC 28 - I think PSC has the better team this year and wants this game badly since they did not make the NCAA tourney.

Way to go NEFC Posters we made it to 110 pages before the end of the season.  Good luck to all of the teams still playing this weekend.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 16, 2007, 08:31:27 AM
I do think Curry has a legit shot at beating Wick, if wick plays like they do on the road Curry could pull it off.  They need to score points though.  Can they air it out at all?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 16, 2007, 09:27:50 AM
Quote from: Upstate on November 16, 2007, 08:31:27 AM
I do think Curry has a legit shot at beating Wick, if wick plays like they do on the road Curry could pull it off.  They need to score points though.  Can they air it out at all?

Yea they can throw.  Good QB with some big/tall Wrs.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on November 16, 2007, 09:30:52 AM
Quote from: 63Center on November 16, 2007, 08:25:46 AM
OK, time to weigh in on these games.  I am picking Curry over Hartwick 28-24 for the following reasons:  Curry has home field, I want teh NEFC to finally win a playoff game, Hartwick's defense is weaker than Curry's and offensively I think they are about equal.

PSC 35 BSC 28 - I think PSC has the better team this year and wants this game badly since they did not make the NCAA tourney.

Way to go NEFC Posters we made it to 110 pages before the end of the season.  Good luck to all of the teams still playing this weekend.

I would want nothing more than to see an NEFC team win a game in the playoffs... Yes Curry at home has its advantages, Hartwicks defense is definitely weaker than Curry's, but offensively?  Hartwicks offense is far more superior than Currys. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on November 16, 2007, 09:58:13 AM
Yes Hartwick has a great offense but I think Curry is capable of putting up a score just as easy as Hartwick. They have three great players on O in Boltus Crea and Phelan but i think Curry D will slow them down enough to get the win. Should have  great game on our hands. Game could be very close or a blowout We'll have to wait and see which team shows up for both sides.

Good luck to PSU and BSC. Plymouth wins easily.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 16, 2007, 12:17:56 PM
If Curry has any shot at all it is this game. I have no idea how Hartwick won the E8 this season. Their D is not good at all period! The one aspect of their game that is so strong is their O's ability to bail out the D all day long. They are ferocious on O and I just don't think Curry will be able to be that strong on both sides of the ball. Look for Curry to score a lot of poingts though.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: admirals_vt on November 16, 2007, 12:30:02 PM
Quote from: oldcurryalum on November 15, 2007, 11:54:09 PM
Curry will take Hartwick to the woodshed and give them a dose of reality.

Curry 28   Hartwick 20

That's funny. If Curry holds Hartwick to 20 points they have a shot to beat anyone except Mt. Union.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: admirals_vt on November 16, 2007, 12:31:22 PM
Quote from: 63Center on November 16, 2007, 08:25:46 AM
OK, time to weigh in on these games.  I am picking Curry over Hartwick 28-24 for the following reasons:  Curry has home field, I want teh NEFC to finally win a playoff game, Hartwick's defense is weaker than Curry's and offensively I think they are about equal.

PSC 35 BSC 28 - I think PSC has the better team this year and wants this game badly since they did not make the NCAA tourney.

Way to go NEFC Posters we made it to 110 pages before the end of the season.  Good luck to all of the teams still playing this weekend.

Your dreamin son. Their offenses aren't even close.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: admirals_vt on November 16, 2007, 12:38:54 PM
Quote from: defenseiskey on November 16, 2007, 09:58:13 AM
Yes Hartwick has a great offense but I think Curry is capable of putting up a score just as easy as Hartwick. They have three great players on O in Boltus Crea and Phelan but i think Curry D will slow them down enough to get the win. Should have  great game on our hands. Game could be very close or a blowout We'll have to wait and see which team shows up for both sides.

Good luck to PSU and BSC. Plymouth wins easily.

It is quite simple if you are going to beat Hartwick you have to flat out out score them, in a high scoring game. What 'wicks offense is best at is reconizing and taking what a defense gives them.
If you can bring pressure every down with just your front four(nobody has done it yet) you may slow them down.
Sit back in zone coverage, giving Boltus all day in the pocket, and he will find open receivers all over the field.
Bring pressure and the dump offs to Crea, the rollouts and the scrambles will just demorilize and wear out your rushers.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: maxpower on November 16, 2007, 04:13:24 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 16, 2007, 12:17:56 PM
If Curry has any shot at all it is this game. I have no idea how Hartwick won the E8 this season. Their D is not good at all period! The one aspect of their game that is so strong is their O's ability to bail out the D all day long. They are ferocious on O and I just don't think Curry will be able to be that strong on both sides of the ball. Look for Curry to score a lot of poingts though.

They hit SJF and Ithaca in back-to-back down weeks. Either of those teams would have mopped the floor with the HC team of late in the season.


I can't believe this, but I actually agree with admirals_vt here... Curry's offense will be extremely hard-pressed to outscore Hartwick, their defense needs to step the hell up and I don't see it happening tomorrow...
Title: Thanks for the ride
Post by: Findtheball on November 16, 2007, 06:26:01 PM
 
Pat,
Thanks for everything this year . I had a good time with my fellow posters. I was happy to see I got some of my K back . I wish I had found this site a couple years back , but glad I found it this year .

Boxer, Center, In the Mix , Gull , Currygrad, JohnnyU & Dud and I know I forgot others . I had a good time picking games (even though not very good) We pushed this forum to 110 , lets hit 200 for next year, that being a challenge . Sorry if I offended anyone , not meant to happen that way .

Seniors, GOOD LUCK in everything you do , football is a good life lesson in working together and being one , thanks for the ride .

I just want NEFC to get on the map again , so GO CURRY !!!!!!!

                           All have a good winter.

                            " NO LINE NO GLORY"               
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 16, 2007, 07:24:09 PM
Well, hey, glad you were here. You don't have to go away, though -- just because the offseason is approaching doesn't mean you need to go into hibernation.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on November 16, 2007, 08:49:39 PM
Sounds like NLNG is turning the light out.....

I'm feeling melancholic.....not really sure why....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on November 17, 2007, 01:05:22 PM
28-0 Curry over Hartwick 6:47 remaining in 2nd quarter
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: KH910 on November 17, 2007, 01:11:32 PM
Quote from: ctgridironmom on November 17, 2007, 01:05:22 PM
28-0 Curry over Hartwick 6:47 remaining in 2nd quarter

omg that hartwinever know what is gonna happen.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on November 17, 2007, 01:31:47 PM
Curry 35 Hartwick 0 at the half
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 17, 2007, 01:36:27 PM
this is unreal...what a job by Curry to be up like that at the half... its been long overdue for the NEFC...hopefully we will get some respect finally... game is not over we all know Hartwick can put up some points but what a hell of a job so far... i dont think anyone so this coming...hopefully the posters in the E8 will give us a lil more respect hah

No line glory...where are you on this
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on November 17, 2007, 01:40:41 PM
I have been listening on and off, it sounds like Hartwick has had a ton of turnovers and Curry's defense playing well
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 17, 2007, 01:42:59 PM
thanks for the update ctgridmom... good to see Curry giving it to the E8 champion....hopefully the other conference will realize we are just not a walkover ... the other conferences should be happy with this win b/c it just adds another team to the east that can play... Curry being good with the likes of Plymouth, CGA as well will only strenghthen the east for years to come
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on November 17, 2007, 02:07:19 PM
35-7 Curry
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 17, 2007, 02:50:32 PM
is this a final score...or is it still in the 4th?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on November 17, 2007, 03:00:37 PM
42-21 with 4 minutes remaining, Curry's ball, Hartwick only has one time-out - WAIT Curry fumble
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on November 17, 2007, 03:09:46 PM
42-21 Final - Curry (and maybe more importantly) the NEFC wins their first NCAA Playoff game!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 17, 2007, 03:12:35 PM
Quote from: ctgridironmom on November 17, 2007, 03:09:46 PM
42-21 Final - Curry (and maybe more importantly) the NEFC wins their first NCAA Playoff game!

Congrats Curry!

Congrats NEFC!

Too bad it came at the expense of the E8, but you played a team that in all honesty if the didn get the Auto they wouldnt of made it.

Good luck next week vs SJF!

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on November 17, 2007, 03:19:04 PM
Congrats to Curry for finally breaking the NEFC into that win column!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mel on November 17, 2007, 03:24:58 PM
Took a trip to Milton to see the game today..
How in the world did that Hartwick team beat both IC and StJF??
I was expecting this crazy offense and saw nothing.
It was over when Wick woke up.

I bought a game program shocked to see on Wicks schedule, Becker , Husson.  Wow.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 17, 2007, 03:29:08 PM
Quote from: mel on November 17, 2007, 03:24:58 PM
Took a trip to Milton to see the game today..
How in the world did that Hartwick team beat both IC and StJF??
I was expecting this crazy offense and saw nothing.
It was over when Wick woke up.

I bought a game program shocked to see on Wicks schedule, Becker , Husson.  Wow.

howd it go down?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FisherAlum05 on November 17, 2007, 03:30:59 PM
Congrats to Curry on the win!

I'm looking forward to the SJF-Curry matchup next weekend in Rochester.  Seems like it will be a great game!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 17, 2007, 04:41:09 PM
Upstate... just be happy the NEFC won... in your opinion they wouldnt of gotten in without the auto..but you know what they did becuase they beat SJF and Ithaca... so dont try to put a dampen on the victory... not many ppl were givin Curry a chance and to be honest that game was a blowout...a blowout similar to the one you guys would all say happen if Hartwick played SJF or Ithaca this weekend... maybe Curry is better than all you guys thought
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mel on November 17, 2007, 05:17:42 PM
The E8 has been trying to down play the Hartwick wins to IC and StJF all week.
Like I said last week..
70 + points surrendered to Utica
40 + points to WNEC

Those are facts.....

Curry is very strong on both sides of the lines.  StJF is very similar in styles.
Both 44 based on D, both I form on O.  Both QB's are very disciplined with the ball... their passing eff is like 140 for both.
Curry huddles and St John Fisher is total slow huddle
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 17, 2007, 05:35:35 PM
Quote from: mel on November 17, 2007, 05:17:42 PM
The E8 has been trying to down play the Hartwick wins to IC and StJF all week.
Like I said last week..
70 + points surrendered to Utica
40 + points to WNEC

Those are facts.....

Curry is very strong on both sides of the lines.  StJF is very similar in styles.
Both 44 based on D, both I form on O.  Both QB's are very disciplined with the ball... their passing eff is like 140 for both.
Curry huddles and St John Fisher is total slow huddle

Wick is a totally different team on the road, actually they are HORRID....

Wick at home:
IC (8-3)-W: 32-30
HUSSON (6-3)-W: 35-27
SJF (10-1)-W: 31-28
Mt.IDA (3-7)-W: 35-14
SC (4-6)-W: 37-34

Wick on Road:
WNEC (3-7)-L:48-21
AU (8-3)-L: 46-36
Becker (2-7)-W: 61-32
NU (2-8)-W: 19-13
UC (3-7)-W: 72-70 (4OT)

See the pattern....

Wick shouldnt of even been in the NCAA's...

Dont even try to use score comparison, If you do you'll think that Wick could hang with MUC since IC did and Wick beat IC...

Congrats, you beat the E8's 4th best team...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 17, 2007, 05:51:37 PM
Quote from: mel on November 17, 2007, 05:17:42 PM
Curry is very strong on both sides of the lines.  StJF is very similar in styles.
Both 44 based on D, both I form on O.  Both QB's are very disciplined with the ball... their passing eff is like 140 for both.
Curry huddles and St John Fisher is total slow huddle

SJF doesnt run an I form, except on short yardage/goal line.  For the most part they are in either the Shot gun or single back formation w/ either one or two TE's....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mel on November 17, 2007, 06:30:21 PM
I thought I saw some I in last years game at Springfield.  Otherwise I have not seen then in 2007.  Last I knew their DC loved the 4-4.  Am I still correct on that one? I did see alot of two Te and thought they were a powerful bunch of players.

I did see the Hartwick road scores and I agree but they still beat the other two E8 playoff teams.  Did IC overlook the Wick?? Is that possible?? That is not IC's fashion to overlook any one.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 17, 2007, 06:42:36 PM
Quote from: mel on November 17, 2007, 06:30:21 PM
I thought I saw some I in last years game at Springfield.  Otherwise I have not seen then in 2007.  Last I knew their DC loved the 4-4.  Am I still correct on that one? I did see alot of two Te and thought they were a powerful bunch of players.

I did see the Hartwick road scores and I agree but they still beat the other two E8 playoff teams.  Did IC overlook the Wick?? Is that possible?? That is not IC's fashion to overlook any one.

They graduated a pretty good FB and decided to go w/o one this year for the most part.  They will occasionally get their TE in the backfield and move him around alot. 

The TE's are pretty good, Harmon is a preseason AA and has been asked to block a bit more than last year.  Their other one is a 6-5 240lb Sophmore that has great hands and is a decent blocker. 

Their 4-4 is sill there, Faggiano does a great job at scheming and getting pressure from the OLBers.

Early on IC was not playing good football, they weren't tackling well to begin the season and were struggling to find their identity.  After SJF beat them for the first time EVER at their house they turned things around and went on a tear. 

Wick got lucky in both games, the coaching staff for SJF and IC didnt bring their A game and made some questionable decisions in each game. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 17, 2007, 07:12:00 PM
 Congrats to Curry !!!!  I knew you could do it !! After seeing Curry play this year I knew they were the real deal .

X (boXer) I was at the Plymouth game . Hats of to Plymouth 9- 1

Very good game 24-21 . Plymouth controlled the clock , Bridgewater a good passing team . H2O QB got knocked out of the game I believe early in the 2nd half or late in the 2nd quarter .

Jeff Mack got the MVP ( running back) of the game . It was very cold up north with the wind howling at your back . I'm now hoarse from yelling all game .  4 sacks in the game . My son got a sack late in the 3rd for an 8 yard loss , nearly brought a tear to the "old mans" eye. Damn I wish I had been playing in that game.
The team had given the coach a bath in the end BBRRR that must have raised the hair on the back of his neck and put the turtle into hibernation.

Well I have to say Plymouth was much more fun to watch than previous years . I really don't see much change for next year either, other than trying to fill the "BUS" position (Jeff Eithier). This championship should help them recruit as well for next year.

OK Curry , it's your turn to carry the torch to the next level for the NEFC, let's get it done ! GOOD LUCK and take it to the house .

                                     No Line No Glory
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FisherAlum05 on November 17, 2007, 07:34:41 PM
Quote from: mel on November 17, 2007, 06:30:21 PM
I thought I saw some I in last years game at Springfield.  Otherwise I have not seen then in 2007.  Last I knew their DC loved the 4-4.  Am I still correct on that one? I did see alot of two Te and thought they were a powerful bunch of players.

I did see the Hartwick road scores and I agree but they still beat the other two E8 playoff teams.  Did IC overlook the Wick?? Is that possible?? That is not IC's fashion to overlook any one.

Upstate is right.  Fisher runs alot of one-back sets on offense.  They also run alot of plays from the shotgun.  They are a very balanced team, which likes to both run and pass the ball with equal effectiveness.  When they are clicking, they are very tough to stop.

Defensively, Fisher is a base 4-4 team.  Their defense has been incredible this season, especially coming down the stretch.  They like to bring pressure with the OLB's, and they stunt occasionally with the defensive line.  It's very hard to run the ball against Fisher.  Plus, passing on them is tough too, they have the best secondary in the East Region in my opinion. 

If someone would be so kind, could we get a little bit of information on Curry?  What do they do offensively and defensively?  Thanks a bunch.  And good luck next weekend!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 17, 2007, 07:40:44 PM
Watch out for Matt Becton at DT, who im quickly developing a man crush on, he's a monster at 6-6 360.  He constantly requires a double team on every play.  Dont let his size fool you, he can move, he can get after the QB as well.  You'll have trouble throwing passes over the middle when he gets his paws up in the air. 



Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: oldcurryalum on November 18, 2007, 06:11:15 AM
upstate... The Curry qb is no slouch himself at 6ft 4. He has all the tools and according to yesterdays score, knows how to use them.  Before the yesterdays game, I read all the ramblings on this board about Hartwick and how they should be feared etc. If I were St John Fisher, I wouldnt take Curry to lightley.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: oldcurryalum on November 18, 2007, 06:13:06 AM
Sorry about my typos etc.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on November 18, 2007, 10:47:56 AM
Well done Curry and congrats to the NEFC in general.

Didn't see it coming and no one should discount this win....we killed this conference for being unable to get an NCAA 'W'.  Now you have it.....the monkey is off the NEFC's back.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 18, 2007, 04:09:37 PM
I want to echo Union 89.  Congrats to Curry.  For years the NEFC was the laughing stock and now that Curry has finally broken the NEFC into the winning column, all of the comments seem to point at a weak opponent as the reason.  Maybe all of the years that the other conferences were winning it was becasue they were playing the NEFC.  Let's encourage Curry not belittle then due to who they beat, after all Hartwick was the E8 Conference Champ regardless of how they did it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: boobyhasgameyo on November 18, 2007, 04:51:54 PM
They were the E8 co-champs, they just received the auto bid....Many would argue Curry will be facing the true E8 champions this weekend.  Best of luck. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2007, 07:58:38 PM
very true... Curry's offense is built around thier off. line...they are big up front but SJF has the size easily to match up with them... they run a 2 rb rotation with both guys gettin a good amount of carries...they can air it out with van giesen who has 2 wr's who were all leauge types...the def. for Curry is good...they have a very good dline led by Pinto and two good sized d ends that match up well with sjf te's and tackles... i think the game will be closer then many will expect... i dont think we will have a blowout on our hands... Curry crushed Hartwick they did exactly what IC or SJF would of done to them if they played again last week... i think Curry is a bit better then you guys want to give them credit for in the E8
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 19, 2007, 05:15:33 AM
 63 & Boxer I could'nt agree more , well said
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 19, 2007, 08:01:35 PM
can we get some talk up on this page... Curry has a chance to re write some history here... a win against SJF would do nothing but boost our conference throught the roof..hell just a could game against them will give our conference a lot more respect...

any predictions on what the score willl be this weekend
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on November 19, 2007, 08:06:13 PM
These teame are very even if you look at them. I think people overlooked Curry this year because of their conference. They ovbiously showed that they are a great team and can score quickly and on any side of the ball. SJF is a great team as well and they have some very good guys. I believe that if Curry shows up to play they have a chance. Congrats to Curry and the NEFC
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 19, 2007, 08:48:37 PM
 the best part of this Curry team is most of us in NEFC have seen Curry play . We all know what they are capable of . These other posters in here are trying to find out whom they are . I really think they have what it takes to continue on this tear . going into other furums and reading their posts , they were saying Curry were going to get their clocks cleaned. they were a little surprised at the outcome weren't they .

Keep going Curry an make us proud , Good luck this coming game.

                                        no line no glory
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: maxpower on November 19, 2007, 08:53:11 PM
Quote from: defenseiskey on November 19, 2007, 08:06:13 PM
These teame are very even if you look at them. I think people overlooked Curry this year because of their conference. They ovbiously showed that they are a great team and can score quickly and on any side of the ball. SJF is a great team as well and they have some very good guys. I believe that if Curry shows up to play they have a chance. Congrats to Curry and the NEFC

That strikes me as true. If they don't show up to play, Fisher can just run it down the field unmolested for 60 strait minutes. Not to mention there will be no ofensive players to try and scor after kickofs. I defanitely agree that it would be good of Curry showed up to teh game on Saterday.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 19, 2007, 09:00:58 PM
 Max , have you seen Curry play this year ? should they have beat Wick like they did or was it a fluke?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: boobyhasgameyo on November 19, 2007, 09:35:14 PM
It was no fluke, Hartwick was terrible on the road all year long and Curry is a solid team.  The final score is what happens when a bad road team faces a good team.  I am excited to see Curry play this weekend, I know nothing about them other than the fact they have ran through their conference each of the last few years.  I don't even know what color their jersey's are.  I'm glad you guys finally got your first playoff win, I'm just sad it came against the E8.  Hopefully Fisher can show you what our conference is really about this weekend  ;)  What are we up against this weekend? Type of offense they run? Can they adapt on the fly (if their primary offensive style just isn't working)  and seriously what do their jersey's look like?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Paul Heering on November 19, 2007, 10:58:49 PM
booby,

Not sure which is home and which is away but here you go for some uniform shots

http://www.curry.edu/Athletics/Mens+Sports/Football/default.htm

The Sherlock Holmes detective in me tells me that the All purples may be home since the picture has them celebrating and holding up 5 fingers and two weeks ago they won their 5th straight NEFC title at home.

the right hand side of that page also has a link where you can download a 36 page media guide for more info.  Such as curry as a college has students from 40 different states and 32 countries. who knew?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 19, 2007, 11:18:17 PM
Home photos in our photo galleries -- check the front page. We shot 10 games this weekend.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 19, 2007, 11:21:04 PM
booby - Curry has a very balance offense who have been able to run the ball and throw the ball basically at will all year... against CGA they stuck with their running game to grind out the clock... but in other games the passing game has been very effective as well... my guess is Curry's running backs wont be able to aver the 6.7 yards a carry they have all year but they have been able to throw the ball as well when needed... but thier offense has not been shut down all year so we dont know whether they can adapt on the fly but if Fisher shuts down the running game they will be able to trhow the ball b/c they have 2 all league players at WR who are good and a o line with good size that has been able to protect their qb van giesen all year
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: boobyhasgameyo on November 20, 2007, 07:17:49 AM
Thanks for the info Boxer, it will be interesting to see how your WR's matchup against our all american DB Stepnick and all league Miranto.  The more you describe the team the more it seems like it will be an evenly matched game and thats good, cant wait until Saturday.  Will any of you be making the trip to Rochester? 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 20, 2007, 03:11:55 PM
Good luck to Curry! Congrats on the solid win over Hartwick on Saturday. I did doubt Curry as a result of their conference and lack of out of conference games played. I feel they have earned some respect from this weekend and now must step up to a real test in SJF. I will be rooting against them but there is no question that if they win they will have earned everyones respect in the east, including mine.
Great Job Curry!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 20, 2007, 07:02:55 PM
I know Curry has a bunch of full time coaches.  How many other NEFC teams pay good salaries for a few coaches?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 21, 2007, 01:41:32 AM
Utah i think Curry and WNEC and Umass D are the only schools with full time coaches right now and im not sure about UMASS D but i know Bridgewaters coach teaches at the school so he is around... i know Kelly at Framingham is the AD so he is always around helping the program... im not sure if Fitchburg's coach is full time but i dont think westfields or MIT is ... but if there were more full time coaches in the leauge that would help greatly in recruiting and prove schools want to put money into their football programs... i think a school like Endicott should do that if they have no already... a team like plymouth should hire castonia full time for the job he has done... the money to do that is there for the private school to hire full time like Curry and WNEC and possible Endicott but for the state schools money is alot tighter.... thats why i think it benefits a team like Framingham to have their AD as head coach becuase he will put alot of time into their team like a full time coach did... it was evident as they were alot more competitive this year then years past that is for sure
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 21, 2007, 01:51:42 AM
booby

it will be interesting ...i wish i could make the trip up to rochester but like many of us we will be obligated to spend time with our families over the thanksgiving weekend...none the less i will be listening to the game becuase it has alot of intrigue to me... SJF strength is thier secondary with stepnick he is the real deal and might be the only one to shut down muc garcon in the country... i think Curry will pass with moderate success but stay away deep against stepnick...i expect alot of underneath routes and screens to get the passing game going... im positive Curry will try to establish the run right away because they match up in size well with SJF but im worried about the monster they have inside they got a kid who is like 330 pounds and 6'3 who has been shutting down run games all by himself... if that is the case again saturdday then curry will leave 2 guys just to block him which will free up one on one for the guys on the inside and let the lb's roam free to make plays which could be trouble...

ideal game for curry this weekend would to have moderate run success to pound out 3-4 yards a rush and be able to use some play action with van giesen to hopefully get the backers to bite and throw some crossing patterns around them... stepnick from what i heard is a awesome tackler so they need to establish the run to hopefully use some playaction and catch him off guard if they can and use his agressiveness against him...

i dont think this weekend will be a high scoring game... i think both D's will show up ... but i think sjf comes out on top to the tune of 24- 10...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Tags on November 21, 2007, 12:32:27 PM
Curry won't be able to run on Fisher, which means they'll have to throw to move the chains. I have no doubt from reading everything on this QB and receiving core that they'll be able to throw some, but if Fisher shuts down Curry's running game early I think it's lights out.

Fisher will drop Stepnick back to Safety and bring in Bostick to play opposite Miranto at the Corner. Our LB's are a good sized, but athletic bunch who can cover the flats. I'm interested to see just how well Curry can throw given that situation.

Our offense, which seemed to waver a bit coming down the stretch looks like it picked up a good spark at the end of the Hobart game, and the O-line FINALLY took over the way they should be able to.

Fisher has seen very good QB's in recent games in Keeley, and Strom (who is better in my mind b/c he can throw & run) --- Each game the Defense has shut them down, and I don't see this week being any different.

Tags predicts:

Fisher 34
Curry  10
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 21, 2007, 03:52:38 PM
Boxer, Mat Becton hasnt been 6-3 330lbs since 8th grade probably...

He's 6-6, 360....

Your right though, he's a monster and he commands a double team on both run and passing downs.  If you try to block him with one guy on pass downs he'll throw the lineman into the pocket and fluster the QB...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: oldcurryalum on November 21, 2007, 04:20:43 PM
Sometimes the bigger they are the harder they fall. Ill take a smaller, faster lineman anyday over a big guy who has the best seat in the house. A classic example of this would be at Georgia Southern Univ where my daughters are alums. GSU has always had small quick linemen and look what theyve been able to accomplish since the inception of their football program in 1985. Six national Div1AA championships. Much of this bantering back and forth can be summed up in one statement. The team that has the wants and desire will usually win out IMHO. Other than what Ive said, I would have to favor SJF because of the quality of their program and the home field advantage. Good luck to both teams.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 21, 2007, 04:55:13 PM
     Happy Thanksgiving to all ..... be safe
Turkey....more turkey....football.........nap...more football my kind of day .


                           GO CURRY !
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 21, 2007, 05:49:36 PM
Upstate...thanks for the correction... tags i agree with you but i think the score will be alot closer than yours... Curry's D line is their strong point and they are good size as well... i think Curry's D line will give them some problems especially Pinto and Chiacerrlli or wateva his name is ...they are both big guys who are athletic... pinto was the conf. def. player of the year as a d linemen so he is going to command some intention in side from them... i dont think Curry will be able to run at will on curry...instead i think SJF is going to air out the ball

from what i heard SJF qb is pretty good at scramblin around and making plays... maybe you E8 poster can tell me if he is better than bolton hartwicks qb who is up for d3 player of the year and won offensive player of the year for the conference... because Curry did well and keeping him in check most of the game
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 21, 2007, 06:15:18 PM
I think this will be closer than folks think and also a low scoring game.  I have to give the edge to SJF because they have played a tougher schedule not just this year but in past years, they have experince in tough games, and they are at home.  I do think Curry will represent the NEFC well and would love to see them advance, but I go with SJF 17-10.

Happy Thanksgiving to all.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 21, 2007, 06:37:26 PM
RE: Kramer vs Botlus

Two totally different QBs.  One is a gun slinger and the other is a game manager.  Boltus is asked to win the game by himself while Kramer is asked to move the team efficiently and take shots when they present themself. 

A typical kramer game will be 18-25 250yds 2 tds in a 38-12 win

A typical Boltus game will be 22-48 450ys 4 tds in a 35-34 win
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mel on November 21, 2007, 11:36:01 PM
I saw Kramer a year ago and really liked him.   He makes plays when they needed him but does not have to do it all.  Perhaps best of all he knows when to punt and return for a fresh set of downs.
He in no way looks like a QB, portly and roundish in the middle.  He wins and that is all a team can ask for.
I like Kramer alot.

The Curry QB on the other hand is a player as well. I know in the Springfield game last year he was iffy early and that cost Curry.
I see a great  match up on Saturday.
I know the StJF secondary is highly regarded but the matchup with the Curry Wrs just may be the game.  They are good and big kids.

I will watch this game with great interest.

Happy Thanksgiving all, my stuffing and pies are in the oven as I type.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: boobyhasgameyo on November 22, 2007, 08:54:24 AM
so will you be in attendance mel?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mel on November 22, 2007, 10:20:20 PM
No, I can not make the trek to Rochacah.  My scouts will be there.  
I have a weekend of youth basketball coaching at my fingertips.  ;D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 24, 2007, 08:18:29 AM
Good write up of the SJF-Curry game from the Rochester D&C....

Cardinals well aware of Curry's offense for today's playoff game


Jim Mandelaro
Staff writer



(November 24, 2007) — Like a fine wine, the St. John Fisher football team's defense seems to get better with time.

The Cardinals are allowing opponents 12.3 points per game, which is sixth-best in Division III. But during their current six-game winning streak, they are giving up just 8.3.

"We knew we had great athletes at every position," says senior cornerback Steve Stepnick, Fisher's all-time interceptions leader with 19. "For whatever reason, we seem to start slow and then we mesh. We've learned to put everything together."

Today, that defense will be put to the test again when second-seed Fisher (10-1) hosts No. 3 Curry College (12-0) of Milton, Mass., in a second-round NCAA Division III Tournament noon game at Growney Stadium.

The winner moves on to the national quarterfinals against the winner of today's game between No. 1 Mount Union and No. 4 The College of New Jersey.

Curry is the only 12-0 team in the nation at any level. The Colonels advanced last Saturday by winning 42-21 over Hartwick, the only team to beat Fisher this season.

Curry averages 39 points a game and features a well-balanced attack, with 2,640 yards rushing and 2,561 passing. Sophomore Jamaal Woods has scored nine touchdowns and rolls up 86 yards per game, while junior quarterback Ryan Van De Giesen has tossed 30 TD passes against eight interceptions and has thrown for 2,422 yards.

The Colonels are deadly inside the red zone, scoring points of any sort 87 percent of the time and recording touchdowns 65 percent of the time when inside the opponents' 20-yard line.

Fisher compares well. The Cardinals average 37.6 points and have two standout tailbacks in Ryan Hanson (92.3 per game) and James Reile (83.1). Reile is third on Fisher's all-time rushing list with 3,003 yards.

The ever-accurate Rob Kramer has 25 TD passes and just seven interceptions (that's an amazing 47 touchdowns and eight picks in two years).

His favorite targets are Jimmy Smith (44 receptions for 750 yards and 12 TDs) and Tim Marion (43-for-625 and 5 TDs).

Fisher's defense returns nine starters from last year but had to replace All-America linebacker Gene Lang, who posted 290 tackles over the previous two seasons and is the program's all-time leader with 478. Only three seniors start, but defensive coordinator Blaise Faggiano has the Cardinals playing stingy and hard-hitting D.

"You lose guys you feel you can't replace," Stepnick says. "But somehow, guys keep stepping in."

Stepnick has been a constant force. He had already set the all-time program record with 14 interceptions by the end of his junior season, and he has five more this fall. He recently was named Empire 8 Defensive Player of the Year.

Fisher and Curry each have 24 interceptions, tied for third in the nation.

Fisher's linebacker corps is strong, led by juniors Josh Gottlieb (team-high 85 tackles) and Jason Cirulli of Webster Schroeder (team-high four sacks).

The Fisher defense has shined the past two weeks against Alfred and Hobart, two area rivals who came in averaging nearly 40 points. Alfred was held to 19, and Hobart managed only a fourth-quarter touchdown.

"The Fisher defense is solid up front," Hobart coach Mike Cragg says. "They have bigger people (than most opponents) and they just wear you down over the game. You can't force the issue with this team. They're not a team you can attack through the air."

Curry has reached the NCAA Tournament in each of the past five seasons. The Colonels are 23-1 under second-year coach Skip Bandini, with that lone loss coming to Springfield (one of Fisher's Empire 8 rivals) in a 42-14 blowout in last year's first round of the NCAA Tournament. Fisher eliminated Springfield the following week.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: boobyhasgameyo on November 24, 2007, 08:35:40 AM
Good luck and safe travels to Rochester if anyone from these boards are going! 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SJF Fan on November 24, 2007, 06:02:00 PM
To Curry - congrats on a great season. 
Perhaps we will be mixing it up again in seasons to come.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FisherAlum05 on November 24, 2007, 07:15:46 PM
I second that statement: Great season Curry!  Keep your heads up, you won 12 games and that is an accomplishment in itself! 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on November 24, 2007, 08:35:46 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 20, 2007, 07:02:55 PM
I know Curry has a bunch of full time coaches.  How many other NEFC teams pay good salaries for a few coaches?

I believe that Curry only has one full-time coach and he is not the head coach and he has other duties at the college.  They have never really had a full-time coach as even Steve Nelson was also the Athletic Director.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 24, 2007, 09:48:31 PM
Quote from: ctgridironmom on November 24, 2007, 08:35:46 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 20, 2007, 07:02:55 PM
I know Curry has a bunch of full time coaches.  How many other NEFC teams pay good salaries for a few coaches?

I believe that Curry only has one full-time coach and he is not the head coach and he has other duties at the college.  They have never really had a full-time coach as even Steve Nelson was also the Athletic Director.

No I know for a fact they have more than one full-time coach.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 24, 2007, 09:52:23 PM
I overheard some discussion earlier that Curry College made virtually no provisions for the football team in terms of Thanksgiving celebration and for overnight stays tonight on campus (players were not allowed to stay in their dorm rooms upon their return tonight).  Can I get some confirmation regarding this, either through PM or on here?  I'd rather fact-check here than run my mouth about an unverified statement.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 25, 2007, 01:16:44 AM
Got some news of interest to NEFC fans on the Muhlenberg/Wesley broadcast -- though I'm sure you were listening to the other game -- Rowan and Bridgewater State are playing next year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mel on November 25, 2007, 07:12:56 AM
Frank, Your tidbit on the Curry Thanksgiving sounds very NEFC ish....
Take a look at the NEFC fields... at two of them the players only choice for a bathroom after the pregame warm up is a port o potty or the woods.  I mean I literally witnessed college football players doing #1 in the WOODS 5 minutes before kickoff.
It is in the details and I am sure that as this was Curry's first voyage into Thanksgiving football they now understand better the details.

Good luck Bridgewater in 2008 v Rowan, take em down.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 25, 2007, 09:24:30 AM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 24, 2007, 09:52:23 PM
I overheard some discussion earlier that Curry College made virtually no provisions for the football team in terms of Thanksgiving celebration and for overnight stays tonight on campus (players were not allowed to stay in their dorm rooms upon their return tonight).  Can I get some confirmation regarding this, either through PM or on here?  I'd rather fact-check here than run my mouth about an unverified statement.

I wouldnt doubt it.  Im sure most players had thanksgiving dinner with their families and players that lived far away (not many of them) stayed with another player.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 25, 2007, 09:52:52 AM
i think Bridgewater playing Rowan will be good for the conference and for Bridgewater...next year Bridgewater will have a very solid team coming back with numerous starters on both sides of the ball... this will only help the team

congrats to Curry on a good year... i think if they played any other team then MUC or SJF they had a good shot at winning...maybe Ithaca as well who has been on a roll going into the playoffs...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on December 03, 2007, 05:56:54 AM
 Maybe next year .

                    Happy Holidays to all .

                                                          NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on December 03, 2007, 10:52:02 PM
least we got one this year... hopefully we will approve next year and make more strides in competing with the E8
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on December 04, 2007, 09:44:56 AM
When do the All-Americans come out. Is it late December or Early January? I am anxious to see who from the NEFC is going to make it as well as what team they are on.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on December 05, 2007, 08:10:34 AM
I am curious how the NEFC stacks up against some of the more elite conferences in D3 in regadrs to facilities, coaching staffs, and budgets.  I agree the NEFC facilities are not that great as far as locker rooms and bathrooms go for the players and has been mentioned many times on this site only a few of the NEFC schools have fulltime coaches.  Also as has been mentioned in the past, a lot of the NEFC schools (state schools) can't afford to travel any distance for games.  So if this describes the situation in the NEFC, what is it like in the other conferences?  Do they have restrooms/locker rooms near the field for the players?  Do they have fulltime coaching staffs?  Do they has training facilities for the players?  What kind of budgets do these schools have?

Obviously, if they are better in these catagories than the NEFC schools, how can one expect to compete?

Congrats to Curry for a great season and putting one in the "W" column for the NEFC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 05, 2007, 12:51:31 PM
We announce them at the Stagg Bowl.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on December 07, 2007, 12:55:03 PM
Today let us remember our Soldiers and Sailors who lost their lives at Pearl Harbor and those who survived the attack in our prayers and thoughts.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AptosDad on December 07, 2007, 11:14:13 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 21, 2007, 01:41:32 AM
i think Curry and WNEC and Umass D are the only schools with full time coaches right now and im not sure about UMASS D but i know Bridgewaters coach teaches at the school so he is around... i know Kelly at Framingham is the AD so he is always around helping the program... im not sure if Fitchburg's coach is full time but i dont think westfields or MIT is ... but if there were more full time coaches in the leauge that would help greatly in recruiting and prove schools want to put money into their football programs...

MIT's coach, Dwight Smith, is in his also a PE teacher at the school, and I believe he focuses on squash. 
The 1999 New England Football Conference Coach of the Year, Dwight Smith has been on the sidelines for every game in the history of Engineer football. Taking over the reigns as head coach of the Tech club program in 1979 after a one-year stint as an assistant, Coach Smith led the Engineers into its varsity game on September 24, 1988. During Tech's 19-year run as a varsity program, Smith's gridiron unit has compiled a 59-104-1 mark.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on December 10, 2007, 12:55:27 AM
congrats to the NEFC players on the all region team lead by fielding, harold, pinto, and others
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on December 11, 2007, 07:19:49 PM
 Boxer where can I find that info... just curious .
                                          thanks
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on December 13, 2007, 08:55:46 AM
NLNG here is the link for the 2007 All-East Region Team...

http://www.d3football.com/all-region/2007_d3football_all-east_region.pdf

Happy Holidays to everyone!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on December 13, 2007, 06:20:27 PM
 Thankyou "D" for the link .

                                  Happy Holidays to all

                                                      NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on December 15, 2007, 06:25:36 PM
Congrats to Pinto of Curry and anyone else who made to all-american list. It is a great accomplishment! What is everyone's take on next season in the NEFC? Will Curry be able to repeat for another year in a row with so many returning or will teams like Nichols or Coast Guard be able to knowck them off? Should be a great season next year.

Oh yea...Who are the full time coaches @ WNEC Umass D and Curry?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mel on December 15, 2007, 09:23:13 PM
Cudos to Hartman and Harms of Coast Guard on their D3.Com All American selections.  Cheers to the Bears and Pinto from Curry.  Way to represent the NEFC boys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ctgridironmom on December 16, 2007, 08:33:47 AM
Quote from: defenseiskey on December 15, 2007, 06:25:36 PM


Oh yea...Who are the full time coaches @ WNEC Umass D and Curry?

I am very curious about this as well, because i still do not think there is one (and by a full-time coach, I mean a coach whose full time job is dedicated to football, not anything or any other sport at the school or elsewhere) at curry, although i do believe that Coach Emery at WNEC is full-time.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on December 16, 2007, 10:13:41 AM
Quote from: ctgridironmom on December 16, 2007, 08:33:47 AM
Quote from: defenseiskey on December 15, 2007, 06:25:36 PM


Oh yea...Who are the full time coaches @ WNEC Umass D and Curry?

I am very curious about this as well, because i still do not think there is one (and by a full-time coach, I mean a coach whose full time job is dedicated to football, not anything or any other sport at the school or elsewhere) at curry, although i do believe that Coach Emery at WNEC is full-time.

Very few (if any) d3 coaches anywhere just coach football and thats it like d1 coaches do.  Im going to say every single one of them has some other role in the athletic department or school.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on December 16, 2007, 11:05:31 AM
im almost certain emery at WNEC is full time just for football
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on December 16, 2007, 11:09:23 AM
i believe Curry is at the top of the list in the Boyd and is followed by Nicholls then Umass D at this point... on the other side of the conference i think Bridgewater is the top dog next season in the Bogan they have a lot of kids coming back and i think they are followed up by Coast Guard who was hit hard by graduation and after that its a toss up in the conference but im going with Fitchburg... if there D can at least stop the other O 3 times a game they are good to win 5 - 7 games i think
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on December 16, 2007, 06:30:43 PM
    boxer you don't think PSU will be in that mix ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefan on December 19, 2007, 12:55:19 AM
UMass Dartmouth are all Part Time coaches..... ALL.... The new coach is a teacher in a local community school like the old coach.... DOES NOT LOOK LIKE there will be any full time football coaches for quite a while (if ever) ..
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on December 25, 2007, 07:12:20 PM
PSU is taking huge graduation hits... they are losing the qb demarco and i think first teamer rb Mack they are losing first team TE long they are losing thier leading tackler at LB i think both of them and i know they are losing a couple of linemen...this PSU team are losing alot of seniors and i think next year will not be a repeat of this year.. Nicholls is alot younger and alot of people are coming back and Curry has shown to rebuild and Umass D is young too... hopefully PSU proves me wrong and just gives the program more depth
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on December 28, 2007, 05:46:55 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on December 25, 2007, 07:12:20 PM
PSU is taking huge graduation hits... they are losing the qb demarco and i think first teamer rb Mack they are losing first team TE long they are losing thier leading tackler at LB i think both of them and i know they are losing a couple of linemen...this PSU team are losing alot of seniors and i think next year will not be a repeat of this year.. Nicholls is alot younger and alot of people are coming back and Curry has shown to rebuild and Umass D is young too... hopefully PSU proves me wrong and just gives the program more depth

PSU is actually in good shape for next year . DeMarco will be back also Mack will be back as well . They did lose some key starters but all in all they should be able to fill the voids .
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: evacuee on December 28, 2007, 03:01:43 PM
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A vote for Trinity is a vote for d3football.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on January 01, 2008, 06:53:29 PM
NLNG- i stand corrected... if mack and demarco are back for that team then i put them second in the Boyd... but they lose some good LB's ... but they are pretty good shape they have a good young secondary led by Sundberg ... with demarco and mack back they should be a team to be reckon with
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefan on January 02, 2008, 05:38:53 PM
The only team to be reckon with is Curry... I think the last loss they had in the NEFC was in 2004 @ UMass Dartmouth .... That is alot of "good" football... plus they are more active in recruiting and they look to be the cream of the crop for the next few years.... There are plenty of teams who might be able to step and beat them in one game... like a PSU, BSC, UMD and Coast Guard ..but it will be have to be one heck of a game.... Until they lose a game , the talk should be about who has the best chance to catch Curry..plenty of teams have improved and that is great for the NEFC..better football, better talent, more NCAA wins and more respect .... Building a program takes time and only time will tell if the schools can reach that level.... PSC is getting back to what it was.... We need Worcester to get back to where they were..they used to feared.... I can't wait to see some games in '08... 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on January 04, 2008, 02:16:57 AM
Ne Fan - not to be a pain , but i think their last loss came in 2005 or 06 in the NEFC to Maine Maritime... that was the year they had that kid Thibodeau and they ended up losing that game... in fact to everyone suprise the game was close but not a nail biter.. but you are right until someone beats Curry we need to talk about who can catch up to them...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefan on January 04, 2008, 09:46:04 AM
stand corrected ( I didnt get out much in 05) .... Any new news on any front..coaching staffs, transfers, etc ..... Any new out of league contests for anybody? Any rumblings going on any where that might impact the NEFC? Does any one think that Castleton State will hurt PSC recruiting at all?   
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on January 05, 2008, 06:53:27 PM
                       
                Nope
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on January 11, 2008, 05:45:11 PM
What are the big losses for teams around the league? I know PSU loses either mack or dimarco and Curry loses 3 of its 4 D-line. Any other big losses?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on January 19, 2008, 10:56:43 AM
Defenseiskey,

  Mack & Demarco will be back next year . PSU did lose a couple of starters though . 3-4 on Defense , 1-2 on Offense . I think they should be the same team as last year , maybe even better . They had a couple kids get hurt earlier on, and a few kids changing positions . I think with Castleton starting up a program is a good thing , the more football the better. With the sucsess PSU had this past season with a winning program , I don't see Castleton hurting PSU with recruiting prospects. I would like to see PSU go to the air a little more though . They have the weapons there , with Demarco's arm . Granted they controlled the clock all season if I'm not mistaken, with the run.
   
  I think Coach C has done a great job on the recruiting spectrum , as it showed this year . His Seniors were his first year recruits . So as you know it takes a little time to implement his plan . The kids loved playing for him.

   I will be in a great state of depression with football coming to an end in the next couple of weeks though , I'm sure I'm not alone .
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on February 09, 2008, 02:10:52 PM
So sad to see the Football season finally over. Hope the best to the kids in the combine representing Division III football. Can't wait till august for another season!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on March 06, 2008, 09:34:58 PM
What conference is Anna Maria going to be in for their first year? Will they be in an independent league?

Also who, if any do you think could potentially make pre-season all american next season?

-Defenseiskey
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on March 11, 2008, 12:33:07 PM
Pre season all americans will be 75% of all D3 starters as it is every year.  Its way too watered down.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 28, 2008, 05:50:28 PM
Hey, yo -- that's Don Hansen's preseason team. D3football.com just picks two teams, 50 guys overall!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on April 08, 2008, 10:08:23 AM
Yes Don Hansens Pre-Season All-America list is ridiculous with how man get selected. Finally Football is back in the air with spring ball starting for many of the DIII teams. How are teams looking around the NEFC to this point?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on May 02, 2008, 10:11:29 AM
Is there a reason that noone ever blogs during the offseason for the NEFC?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bearyear on May 02, 2008, 02:17:53 PM
any thoughts on bridgewater state opening up against rowan?? i feel its a huge step for the nefc...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on May 05, 2008, 03:14:17 PM
I dont know how bridgewater will be this year or how their recruit class looks but it is a good thing that the NEFC is finally playing outside themselves. Hopefully they won't get blown out to keep the wheels turning for the NEFC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on May 11, 2008, 12:31:05 PM
Any news out there on any of the NEFC teams? Recruits? Coaches?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on May 14, 2008, 11:01:39 AM
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Commander VFW Memorial Post 3776
Secaucus NJ


In Flander's Field
by John McCrae
In Flanders Fields the poppies blow,
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the dead.
Short days ago,
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved and now we lie,
In Flanders Fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe
To you, from failing hands, we throw,
The torch, be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us, who die,
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow,
In Flanders Fields.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on May 14, 2008, 12:01:04 PM
Quote from: defenseiskey on May 11, 2008, 12:31:05 PM
Any news out there on any of the NEFC teams? Recruits? Coaches?

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Magic 8-ball says...'We're all going to suck royally......again....' 

and...

'Fitchburg St. scores recruit, Mohammed Salami, 5' 4" 112lb Kicker from Pentucket HS.  Recruiting season deemed a 'Large Success'.'

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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on May 14, 2008, 01:07:08 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on May 14, 2008, 12:01:04 PM
Quote from: defenseiskey on May 11, 2008, 12:31:05 PM
Any news out there on any of the NEFC teams? Recruits? Coaches?

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Magic 8-ball says...'We're all going to suck royally......again....' 

and...

'Fitchburg St. scores recruit, Mohammed Salami, 5' 4" 112lb Kicker from Pentucket HS.  Recruiting season deemed a 'Large Success'.'

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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Touchdown23 on May 16, 2008, 02:56:44 PM
One of the biggest losses in the conference is Nichols College losing their Defensive Coordinator Mike Landers.  He recently took over Mt. Ida's head coaching duties.  He was a MAJOR factor towards bringing Nichols back to where they were a few years back. It will be interesting to see how they play in his absence.  I would put Landers up with any coaching minds in the conference.  One hell of a recruiter as well.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on June 03, 2008, 05:38:02 PM
August=Traing Camp=Football....another month down as football season inches closer.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on July 13, 2008, 11:22:00 AM
Only a few weeks to go until we are in full football boom!! How good is the Kickoff preview?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Falconalum on July 22, 2008, 07:20:06 AM
Is it too early to make conference predictions?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on July 22, 2008, 04:09:33 PM
Not a big shock that no one fron the NEFC was picked as a pre-season All-American this year.

Who is everyones pick for pre-season all NEFC this year??
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Falconalum on July 22, 2008, 07:08:38 PM
well I don't think there's going to be any question who's going to be NFC Offensive Player of the year... Marlon Thornton from FSC had over 1600 all purpose yards last year and 18 TD's. 1300 of those yards were on the ground and 300 through the air. And with  Jim Miller back at QB who threw for almost 2500 yards and 16 TD's, defenses won't be able to key in on Thornton. One of those two will win the O player of the year... If their defense has improved at all, they should be near the top of the league this year. After all they did win their last three games, one against Westfield and the other Maine Maritime, both teams with winning records last year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefan on July 24, 2008, 12:44:31 AM
JT Harold from UMass Dartmouth is the answer to your question ? NEFC Off MVP !!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fscbaby on July 24, 2008, 12:38:40 PM
I think that They both have a great chance to get it. I think that who ever has the better team will get it. I seen J.t harold and Marlon Thornton play and i would say Marlon has the edge over J.t. I think that Marlon will have at least 1500 rushing this year. Jt i believe will have a slightly lower number by maybe 100 or 200 yards.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on July 25, 2008, 07:45:20 PM
what about Curry's QB he was one of if not the best QB in the conference last year
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fscbaby on July 26, 2008, 11:24:31 AM
Very good point. I think that if a QB does get it, then it will go to Fitchburg's or curry QB......Where do the teams lie next yr? I think Curry is number 2 in the confernce.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PrideFan1 on July 30, 2008, 07:09:20 PM
any thoughts on the springfield-fitchburg or springfield-mt. ida games? how does the nefc stack up this year?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Falconalum on July 31, 2008, 09:28:13 AM
The Springfield Fitchburg game should be a high scoring agenda. Fitchburg had trouble stopping the run last year and all Springfield knows how to do is run. We'll find out if Fitchburg's defense has improved at all, and get a taste of how that high powered offense stacks up against a premier opponent. If this one is close look for Fitchburg to be back on top of the NEFC Bogan again.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on July 31, 2008, 07:52:29 PM
I don't see fitchburg coming close to winning this game but then again Springfield has its off years. I still don't see Fitchburg being able to stop Springfields rushing game. maybe a huge landslide in favor of SC
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefan on August 05, 2008, 08:27:56 PM
Springfield will beat them by 21... I am a HUGE NEFC fan but it will be tough.. They run the option like no team in the nefc..with a great scheme (it is not a secret how to beat them), ball control offense(kill the clock) and a nice turnover ratio ...they have a chance (plus all preseason they can game plan for Springfield and maybe using that planning for your goaline defense...UMass Dartmouth beat them in 2001..(Played great D and controlled the ball all game) .... I am rooting for Fitchburg
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on August 06, 2008, 05:09:30 PM
If Fitchburg juices everyone like Springfield then there will be alot greater chance...Almost got a team from the NEFC into the preseason Top 25.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Falconalum on August 07, 2008, 06:03:57 AM
Here is a Topic that has been bothering me since the playoffs last year. How does  a team (Hartwick) lose to Western New England College 42-20something in the first game of the season, who by the way only won 2 or three games last year, go on to play in the playoffs. Which by the way Hartwick is the only team The NEFC has beaten in the playoffs so I guess Curry's lucky they did!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: boobyhasgameyo on August 07, 2008, 06:55:21 AM
Well they have this crazy new concept called an automatic qualifier which Hartwick received by coming out on top in the E8.  So if it was really bothering you since the playoffs, maybe you should have looked into it just a little bit.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: boobyhasgameyo on August 07, 2008, 07:01:44 AM
And just so you don't look at my last statement, then look at my signature and get confused....Hartwick was in a 3 way tie for first in the E8 but had what some would call fluke victories over Fisher and Ithaca and therefore owned the head to head advantage.  They were not the best team in our conference, more like the 4th behind Fisher, Ithaca, and Alfred and they were absolutely terrible on the road the entire season, which continued into the playoffs against Curry. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Falconalum on August 08, 2008, 06:19:58 AM
Why research when I can just have you tell me booby.  Must have been a really down year for the "elite8". The eventual winner lost to not one but two NEFC teams! Could bode well in the future for the NEFC
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on August 08, 2008, 07:54:04 AM
Quote from: Falconalum on August 08, 2008, 06:19:58 AM
Why research when I can just have you tell me booby.  Must have been a really down year for the "elite8". The eventual winner lost to not one but two NEFC teams! Could bode well in the future for the NEFC

I doubt it.  But there is nowhere to go but up in the NEFC.

As far as I can see, there is really only one school, (Curry) that is serious about football in the NEFC.  All the other schools have partime coaching staffs. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Falconalum on August 08, 2008, 11:24:09 AM
This year Fitchburg State will have a full time coach for the first time. Hopefully some other schools in the NEFC will take suit. I believe this will have a strong positive impact on the Fitchburg football teams success in the coming years.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: boobyhasgameyo on August 08, 2008, 02:23:34 PM
Quote from: Falconalum on August 08, 2008, 06:19:58 AM
Why research when I can just have you tell me booby.  Must have been a really down year for the "elite8". The eventual winner lost to not one but two NEFC teams! Could bode well in the future for the NEFC

Well if something had been bothering me for nearly a year regarding how a team made the playoffs I would have at least looked to see if they made it as an at large bid or not to see if people truly selected them to join the tournament.  Also, it wasn't really a down year for the E8, I would say it was an average one...Hartwick kind of just came out of nowhere and was a tougher team to play at home.  Hartwick may have lost to two NEFC teams but your conference's shining beacon of hope Curry was dominated by Fisher in the next round, another E8 team. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 08, 2008, 02:28:36 PM
Quote from: Falconalum on August 08, 2008, 06:19:58 AM
Why research when I can just have you tell me booby. 

There's a wealth of information on D3football.com. Worth checking it out. :)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Falconalum on August 08, 2008, 04:23:56 PM
wow there is too much drama on this site. I just meant that it bothered me that Hartwick could beat teams like Ithica and St. Johns but lose to a team like WNEC. I don't understand how that could happen. But some  people like to make "smart" comments I guess... Just thought I'd bring up a topic people could bring opinions to. Seeing as there is such little conversation on the NEFC posting board.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 08, 2008, 04:26:39 PM
I think the prevailing opinion still stands: Hartwick 2007 was great at home, poor on the road.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on August 08, 2008, 04:28:25 PM
Quote from: Falconalum on August 08, 2008, 04:23:56 PM
wow there is too much drama on this site. I just meant that it bothered me that Hartwick could beat teams like Ithica and St. Johns but lose to a team like WNEC. I don't understand how that could happen. But some  people like to make "smart" comments I guess... Just thought I'd bring up a topic people could bring opinions to. Seeing as there is such little conversation on the NEFC posting board.

1) Its Ithaca, not Ithica

2) I think Hartwick was a home team, but also probably did not play well in the first game of the season, and may have overlooked WNEC.  It happens.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on August 08, 2008, 05:04:26 PM
Everyone overlooks NEFC teams because it is the worst ranked Div. in D-III football...As for Hartwick it was a very drastic difference in how the team played on the road and how they played at home. That is something that should def be addressed by that coaching staff and Curry I do not believe has a full time head coach.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on August 08, 2008, 05:07:07 PM
One more thing how does Curry not make the top 25 this year when they ended last season in the top 20. I know they are in the NEFC and the competition is not as great but c'mon
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 08, 2008, 05:15:40 PM
It's also St. John Fisher, not St. John's. St. John's is a D-III power in Minnesota.

defenseiskey: Who is Curry playing that will prove they're a Top 25 team?

http://www.d3football.com/school_info.php?school=Curry&year=2008

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on August 08, 2008, 05:22:33 PM
Quote from: defenseiskey on August 08, 2008, 05:04:26 PM
Everyone overlooks NEFC teams because it is the worst ranked Div. in D-III football...As for Hartwick it was a very drastic difference in how the team played on the road and how they played at home. That is something that should def be addressed by that coaching staff and Curry I do not believe has a full time head coach.

Curry has 3 (at least) full time football coaches.  And by full time I mean they do other things for the school (most d3 "fulltime" coaches do)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Falconalum on August 08, 2008, 08:43:38 PM
I should have put my term papers on here, people love to correct my spelling! lol
At least we finally have some conversation going on this page. By the way, Big fan of
Colts new WR Pierre Garcon! Have there ever been any other D3 skilled position players that
were so high on a depth chart their first year in the NFL?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on August 08, 2008, 09:19:33 PM
Quote from: defenseiskey on August 08, 2008, 05:07:07 PM
One more thing how does Curry not make the top 25 this year when they ended last season in the top 20. I know they are in the NEFC and the competition is not as great but c'mon

Look at Boston College.  Although I bet most pollsters did not know who Curry had lost, I can see not putting them in the top 25.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 09, 2008, 09:07:46 AM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on August 08, 2008, 09:19:33 PM
Although I bet most pollsters did not know who Curry had lost, I can see not putting them in the top 25.

Actually, we research that information for about 50 teams to compile and send to our voters.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on August 09, 2008, 09:33:36 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 09, 2008, 09:07:46 AM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on August 08, 2008, 09:19:33 PM
Although I bet most pollsters did not know who Curry had lost, I can see not putting them in the top 25.

Actually, we research that information for about 50 teams to compile and send to our voters.

I guess I should have said that it didnt matter if Curry had everyone comming back, many people still would not have voted them in the top 25 based on one game....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on August 12, 2008, 02:27:34 PM
I suppose but they have made it to the playoffs for the past like 4-5 years although they only made it past the first round this past season they have been a very constant team and have lost playoff games to very good(top 5) schools... such as St.John Fisher Del Valley etc. They also finished the season in the Top 20...I do understand that it is the NEFC though and everyone looks down upon this Conference because of how weak it can be
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on August 19, 2008, 09:36:20 AM
Woot! Woot! Football Season Is Finally Here With Camp In The Air As Well As Scrimmages And Opening Day Only A Few Weeks Away.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on August 19, 2008, 08:44:25 PM
 Hope to see the "BIG LEW " at the games this year . I know you've graduated but hope to see ya there .


                                    Papa Yosh
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on August 20, 2008, 06:07:21 PM
Welcome Back NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on August 21, 2008, 05:33:21 AM
can't wait ... fire up those grills
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on August 21, 2008, 01:03:59 PM
Anyone planning on going to any big games this year??
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fscbaby on August 21, 2008, 01:22:10 PM
Yes i am....Im planning on attending the Fitchburg and Springfield game on the fourth of september. That should be a good game i think!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on August 22, 2008, 10:16:49 PM
What do you guys think are the biggest games this season besides the FSC vs. SC? Any predictions on who will we each Division and the Conference? Records?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on August 25, 2008, 10:07:20 AM
I don't know about big games, but I will take a guess on a few teams this year

Of course Curry is the team to beat in the NEFC, maybe someone can give them a little competition.

I'd be dreaming if I said that I think Endicott will turn it around this year....but I've been wrong before.

I look for PSU to make a little noise this year as well. They're one of those teams that has continued to get better year to year.

Any other thoughts??
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Falconalum on August 25, 2008, 09:56:26 PM
I definitely think Fitchburg state will make a bang this year. After winning their last three games last year, The y come into this year with some confidence and a little more experience at defense. Look for FSC and Coast Guard to be atop of the Bogan division this year. Also Curry is still the team to beat, look for Umass Dartmouth to push for the conference title. WIld cards are Westfield State and PSU I believe. I think the first week of the season will give us a good idea what we have in store for us.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on August 29, 2008, 05:18:49 PM
Personally I do not think FSC will make that big of a dent just because they won their last three games of LAST season. This is a new year and things have happend since then.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on August 31, 2008, 05:02:09 PM
What are everyones predictions for Week 1? Especially the outta conference games like Bridgewater St. vs Rowan? Sprinfield @ FSC? And Hartwick vs WNEC?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on September 02, 2008, 02:33:30 PM
Quote from: defenseiskey on August 31, 2008, 05:02:09 PM
What are everyones predictions for Week 1? Especially the outta conference games like Bridgewater St. vs Rowan? Sprinfield @ FSC? And Hartwick vs WNEC?

Not sure who Rowan returns... Springfield is really young this year so I don't expect them to be really dominant, and Hartwick just beat 1AA Iona 38-35 in an exhibition to give you an idea of what they're going to do to WNEC. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 02, 2008, 02:47:12 PM
Iona + Hartwick = Zero football scholarships combined. Iona is a D-III program at a barely D-I school, IMO.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on September 02, 2008, 06:20:05 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 02, 2008, 02:47:12 PM
Iona + Hartwick = Zero football scholarships combined. Iona is a D-III program at a barely D-I school, IMO.

Alot of the 1aa non-scholarship programs are just horrible, see canisius (dont have football anymore) from the Buffalo area.  Good basketball school but would get trounced by Alfred and Rochester...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Falconalum on September 03, 2008, 09:52:01 AM
"Personally I do not think FSC will make that big of a dent just because they won their last three games of LAST season. This is a new year and things have happend since then."

Apparently you are not versed on the players coming back for FSC. Just about their entire offense is coming back which includes their QB, RB which were both all conference and 4 out of 5 of their starting linemen. They have added key additions to their defense and some players defensively that were ineligible last year are back. Granted Springfield is very young this year, but if FSC has a good showing tomorrow night, look for them to be back near the top of the league this year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fscbaby on September 04, 2008, 02:37:19 PM
They play tonight!!! Wats the predictions on the fsc sc game wats the predicitons on each quarter score????
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Timz81 on September 04, 2008, 03:47:43 PM
35-14 springfield.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on September 04, 2008, 04:18:44 PM
I think it will be a little closer than people think ONLY because of how young SC is and how many people they lost. I say 27-14. What about the rest of the games this weekend...Any Predictions?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Timz81 on September 04, 2008, 08:26:38 PM
just got a call from my buddy at the game. 27-13 springfield.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Timz81 on September 04, 2008, 10:02:14 PM
55-27 SC
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on September 05, 2008, 12:27:48 AM
Not a bad performance by FSC.....the Falcons were down 14-13 at one point.  We will soon see if this is a case of FSC turning the corner or Springfield having a very down year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Timz81 on September 05, 2008, 12:58:48 PM
Quote from: Union89 on September 05, 2008, 12:27:48 AM
Not a bad performance by FSC.....the Falcons were down 14-13 at one point.  We will soon see if this is a case of FSC turning the corner or Springfield having a very down year.

very true. whats your prediction on the SC/Union game?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: boobyhasgameyo on September 05, 2008, 02:36:04 PM
Quote from: Union89 on September 05, 2008, 12:27:48 AM
Not a bad performance by FSC.....the Falcons were down 14-13 at one point.  We will soon see if this is a case of FSC turning the corner or Springfield having a very down year.

I remember last year in the Quarterfinals Fisher was toe to toe with Mount Union tied at 0's before Mount Union ended up winning 52-10.  Springfield won by 4 touchdowns so it wasn't exactly close. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: stimulator on September 06, 2008, 10:11:08 AM
Well I went to the game and although FSC did some nice things offensively, Springfield fumbled 9 times and lost 4 of those.  It could have been worse.  Plus you don't beat anybody giving up 500+ yards rushing
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on September 06, 2008, 12:30:03 PM
If you don't capitalize on teams mistakes then you cannot win especially giving up over 500 yards like previoulsy mentioned. Congrats to Curry and Westfield on their win. Good luck to Bridgewater State vs Rowan seems like they are putting up a good battle right now in the second quarter (0-0)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 06, 2008, 09:09:46 PM
Well alright here we go again , PSU looked good today against ST A's always room for improvement though . Looks like they've almost  filled the gaps left behind from graduating SRs . Mack looked good today over 200 yds rushing . I believe the butterflies have left the building .
Where is Big Don (Big Lew ) from Merrimac ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dingle40 on September 07, 2008, 11:57:44 AM
right here tom harry. will be up there soon... hopefully they give us a 6pack for the parking fee.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 07, 2008, 04:07:35 PM
how bout the other teams in the leauge this year... MIT beat Maine Maritime in a thriller and even Framingham started out the year with a win against Endicott... i agree with others about Fitchburg but they have to learn to stop other teams which i dont think they will be able to do ... that defense was awful last year and lost thier top returning tackler... sleeper pick is Umass D and Worcester ST who looked awful good against curry... any thoughts?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fscbaby on September 07, 2008, 04:14:25 PM
who had the top performances QB, RB,WR wise this week......
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 09, 2008, 02:03:52 PM
Bruce Rich was the offensive player of the week in the conference and he plays for Framingham... if you want to find out some of the other top performaces you can go on the New England Football Conference website and view the players of the week and the honor roll that goes with them for other good performances by players from around the leauge...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fscbaby on September 09, 2008, 08:29:40 PM
i see Marlon Thornton rushed for 225yards......But no td's....And Miller threw for four td's and 300
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on September 09, 2008, 11:47:02 PM
Quote from: fscbaby on September 07, 2008, 04:14:25 PM
who had the top performances QB, RB,WR wise this week......

www.newenglandfootballconference.com has the weekly players and honor roll and mentions their performances. How about some predictions for this weekend?
Curry Over FSC big
Nichols over Framingham
Worcester won't hang with WPI
  Bridgewater over UMD close game this week again for UMD
WNEC over Westfield Waltz will be too much for westfield
Plymouth State easily over Mt. Ida
Salve scrapes by.
Endicott gets blown away by RPI
MIT could start the season 2-0 over Mass Maritime
 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Falconalum on September 10, 2008, 01:19:56 PM
Fitchburg Hands Curry first loss of season but not last... 35-33
Nichols to tough for Framingham State... 24-14
WPI over much improved Worcester State... 36-20
Bridgewater Wins close one over UMD... 17-14
Westfield's defense holds strong against WNEC 23-13
Plymouth State rushes all over Mt. Ida.... 46-14
RPI crushes Endicott.. 44-10
MIT can't go 2-0 Mass wins it 17-14
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on September 10, 2008, 02:18:43 PM
Nichols over Framingham in a close one: 38-35
WPI tops Worcester State: 14-10
UMD over Bridgewater: 24-13
WNEC over Westfield: 38-14
Plymouth State tops Mt. Ida: 50-21
RPI over Endicott: 49-10
Mass Maritime over MIT: 20-7

Game of the Week
Curry over Fitchburg: 42-24
On paper this looks like a good game, but I think Curry had their wake-up call last week. Look for them to put this one away early

Glad to have football back!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 10, 2008, 07:00:15 PM
 Alright all ready , glad to see so many of our posters back ! I see a few new posters this year , right dingle , lets get some chatter in here . This being my 100 post I just wanted to thank Pat & the gang for a fine job again . I've seen posts from ( X ) boxer  (63 ) center (ITM) in the mix  (D) 
Defenseiskey, where are the rest ? I will have my picks in by Friday , I just have to study more that's all . Pat , thanks again
                                       
                                            NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MC3 on September 11, 2008, 09:42:07 AM
Framingham St over Nichols: 35-21 - Leach has a big game
Curry over Fitchburg St: 35-14 - Curry has the cobwebs out
WPI over Worcester St: 42-21 - Worcester's improved, but WPI's too strong overall
UMD over Bridgewater: 28-24 - Game of the week, dog fight till the end
WNEC over Westfield: 28-10 - Westfields offense too weak
Plymouth St over Mt. Ida: 49-14 - Plymouth St dominates throughout
RPI over Endicott: 42-7 - Endicott still winded from last week, they will be lucky if they score
Mass Maritime over MIT: 28-21 - Close throughout, but I think Mass Maritime's "D" is a little bit better than Maine's
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 11, 2008, 11:38:41 AM
a good slate of game this weekend that i believe will be tough to predict but here goes nothing

Framingham State over Nichols 30-22... Framingham might be a little better then people think
Curry over Fitchburg 42-21... Fitchburg has a great offense but a terrible D... advantage Curry
WPI over Worcester 33-13... WPI is strong this year
UMD over Bridgewater 21-19... this will be the game of the week - both teams are very strong and can make a run for the leauge this year... could be the best matchup of the year until the NEFC game
Westfield over WNEC 32-15... i dont know what people see in WNEC they still have no D and thier offense does score but Hartwick also gives up a ton of points inclduing 70 last year to Utica
Plymouth State over MT IDA 44-6 ... the laugher of the week
MIT over MASS MA 21-17... it would be nice to see MIT start off at 2-0 and Framingham at 2-0 next week since both have been bottom dwellers in this leauge for years
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dingle40 on September 11, 2008, 08:13:23 PM
winners this week are:
Nichols runs to victory
Curry is curry.
WPI wins the town championship.
Bridgewater beats on mass D
WNEC throws to many screens
P State- Mack another 200+ game..possibly the fantasy leader this year in NEFC
The nerds outsmart the sailors.  Have they finally came up with the calculations to winning? Or are the sailors just still hungover from a solid friday night of boozing? Any thoughts?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 13, 2008, 08:59:59 AM
 ok here we go

Curry too "hot "
I like nichols over ham too
Wpi I guess
Rip Endicott
Wnec just because
State over Ida know
Genius beat up Popeye
Bridge over water umd not enough paddles
Salve has prayers answered
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Mustangs52 on September 13, 2008, 10:35:44 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on September 11, 2008, 11:38:41 AM
a good slate of game this weekend that i believe will be tough to predict but here goes nothing


Plymouth State over MT IDA 44-6 ... the laugher of the week




I love it....thanks for calling us the "laugher of the week"....check the score...

Mount Ida 24   Plymouth 7

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 13, 2008, 10:41:53 PM
Quote from: Mustangs52 on September 13, 2008, 10:35:44 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on September 11, 2008, 11:38:41 AM
a good slate of game this weekend that i believe will be tough to predict but here goes nothing


Plymouth State over MT IDA 44-6 ... the laugher of the week




I love it....thanks for calling us the "laugher of the week"....check the score...

Mount Ida 24   Plymouth 7



What do ya know!  Week 2 and the players are on here already talking smack!  I love it.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fscbaby on September 16, 2008, 02:15:53 PM
Marlon Thornton and J.t harold goes at it this weekend....Any predictions on this game and on the rest or the games this weekend?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on September 17, 2008, 11:57:04 AM
Great article in Around The Region.

Good to see some of the usual bottom dwellers making a name for themselves early in the season. Looks like the full-time coaches are making a difference

I am very excited to see how Curry does this weekend and the rest of the season after being tested early. It will be interesting to see if the NEFC "big dog" will be tamed this season.

Some big numbers being put up be QBs this year as well. Looks like some talent around the NEFC this year.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PrideFan1 on September 17, 2008, 01:51:00 PM
Quote from: fscbaby on September 16, 2008, 02:15:53 PM
Marlon Thornton and J.t harold goes at it this weekend....Any predictions on this game and on the rest or the games this weekend?

hey marlon thorton, its a little pathetic that you keep coming on here to promote yourself. especially when you try to pretend that youre someone else by referring to yourself in 3rd person. dont you realize that everyone can see your email address? "marlonstheman@yahoo.com". let people decide how good you are by the way you produce on the field and not by how much you advertise yourself on post patterns. maybe fitchburg would win more games if their top players worried about the team winning as much as they worried about personal accolades.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on September 17, 2008, 03:08:05 PM
I agree Pride FAN.  I'd imagine that most coaches would have a problem with any of their players posting here, especially if they were promoting themselves...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on September 17, 2008, 05:48:29 PM
Quote from: PrideFan1 on September 17, 2008, 01:51:00 PM
Quote from: fscbaby on September 16, 2008, 02:15:53 PM
Marlon Thornton and J.t harold goes at it this weekend....Any predictions on this game and on the rest or the games this weekend?

hey marlon thorton, its a little pathetic that you keep coming on here to promote yourself. especially when you try to pretend that youre someone else by referring to yourself in 3rd person. dont you realize that everyone can see your email address? "marlonstheman@yahoo.com". let people decide how good you are by the way you produce on the field and not by how much you advertise yourself on post patterns. maybe fitchburg would win more games if their top players worried about the team winning as much as they worried about personal accolades.


HA.....this is worse than the player posts from over in the E8 in past years.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MC3 on September 17, 2008, 09:54:36 PM
Nichols over Worcester St - 28-24
Curry over Westfield St - 35-14
Bridgewater St over Salve Regina - 35-28
Framingham St over MIT - 49-35
WNEC over Maine Maritime - 28-14
Plymouth St over Coast Guard - 28-24
Endicott over Mass Maritime - 21-7
Mass-Dartmouth over Fitchburg St - 35-21
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fscbaby on September 18, 2008, 09:59:48 AM
it isnt marlon that is saying this...this is his brother that is using his email address.....I asked to him for it so that i could post things and give my insight on the season!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 18, 2008, 10:12:00 AM
Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......................................

Thanks for playing. No sharing of e-mail addresses. And "your brother" wouldn't have been posting from the places you posted from.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on September 18, 2008, 10:44:32 AM
Doesn't he at least get a parting gift?  :D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PBR... on September 18, 2008, 10:47:40 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 18, 2008, 10:12:00 AM
Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......................................

Thanks for playing. No sharing of e-mail addresses. And "your brother" wouldn't have been posting from the places you posted from.

LOL...when will people learn!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 18, 2008, 10:52:59 AM
Quote from: pg04 on September 18, 2008, 10:44:32 AM
Doesn't he at least get a parting gift?  :D

Sorry -- we're all out of the home game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on September 18, 2008, 11:21:21 AM
Shoot, I always wanted to play as the K-mack Character. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MC3 on September 18, 2008, 12:00:01 PM
Picks this week?
Title: Picks this week
Post by: vttanker on September 18, 2008, 01:27:22 PM
Picks this week.
Worcester St wins their first in a close one over Nichols, 27-24
Bridgewater has too much for Salve Regina and wins their first game, 35-21
Maine Maritime finds just enough defense to stop WNEC and pulls out a close one, 33-30
Another battle of 0-2s and Endicott over Mass Maritime in a close one, 21-19
Curry remains unbeaten as they warm up for divisional play and take it to Westfield St, 35-14
MIT's offense slows down this week, but still has enough to squeak by Framington, 28-27
Last week was a fluke and Plymouth St rebounds and beats Coast Guard, 21-17
All eyes are on this game.  Fitchburg St rolls up the points, but without much defense Mass-Dartmouth puts up even more, Mass-Dartmouth over Fitchburg St, 42-35
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on September 18, 2008, 02:05:05 PM
Nichols over Worcester State: 21-10
Salve over Bridgewater: 35-14
MIT tops Framingham State: 28-0
Curry over Westfield: 42-27
Maine Maritime over WNEC: 24-10
Endicott over Mass Martime: 20-14
Fitchburg tops UMD: 35-24
Coast Guard over Plymouth State: 42-35

Parents weekend at Coast Guard, I have to give the nod to them
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PrideFan1 on September 18, 2008, 02:21:07 PM
i just want to nominate marlon thorton for player of the year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on September 18, 2008, 02:59:15 PM
I'll second the nomination  :D :D :D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dingle40 on September 18, 2008, 05:00:27 PM
plymouth wins this weekend. and i vote for nolinenoglory for MVP of the league. by the way ill see you next weekend TOMMY.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PrideFan1 on September 18, 2008, 06:25:55 PM
Quote from: pg04 on September 18, 2008, 02:59:15 PM
I'll second the nomination  :D :D :D

pg i love that you find this as humorous as i do. i can stay on this all year. haha.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Falconalum on September 19, 2008, 10:35:04 AM
Worcester State will rebound against Nichols 34-17
Bridgewater takes it to Salve 40- 21
MIT beats Framingham(someone needs to win) 14-10
Curry in another close one( the gap is narrowing) 24-17 Westfield's D and Passing game will keep them in it but they will fall short.
Maine will control the ball and eat up clock to beat WNEC 21-17
Endicott will beat the new doormat of the league in Mass Maritime 24-7
Coast Guard over Plymouth State 37-24
And the Game of the week Fitchburg State and UMD... With these two offenses anything can happen, It will come down to ball security, and I think Fitchburg wants it more. Pick is (TO everyone's surprise) Fitchburg 48-41.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 19, 2008, 05:24:39 PM
 Oh dingle you're a funny man ... MVP
My picks this week
PSU over CGA  35--24
WNEC over Maine 24--17
Nichols over Worcester 28--14
MIT over  Framingham 21--18
Endicott over Mass Mar 21--20
UMD over Fitchburg  38--35
Salve over Bridge 24--21
Curry over West 38--28

BBBzzzzzzzzzzzz
See ya next weekend  in the mountains big Donny boy
Did you get a job yet ? 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on September 19, 2008, 08:44:19 PM
Close game between Cow Tippers and CGA but PSU pulls it out
Worcester over Nichols in another good game
MIT starts 3-0 against Framingham
Endicott could see their first victory of the season
Curry over Westfield in another close or a potential laugher
Bridgewater stops Salves 1 Game win streak
Fitchburg Can't Stop UMD Offense in another squeaker

Good Luck To All

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3 Fan on September 21, 2008, 08:20:37 AM
Seems to me that the FSC - UMD was a one horse race.... I think notice has been served, Mr. Thorton officially losses the nomination!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 21, 2008, 08:47:59 PM
 PSU looked good on Saturday.... Defense was stingy , alot, I mean alot of hard hits . Offense played well , definetly room for improvement . CGA always seems tough with the home crowd advantage (loud) . Really not much seating for the visitors side . Seemed like there were alot of penalties called on both sides . Sometimes I wonder if they were watching the same game I was . Oh well . Again looking at some scores in the NEFC , there is alot of parity . OK will close for now .

Get your picks in early and often this week . how many posters do we have picking this year 10 or 12 ?

                                      Good luck all !!
                                           
                                              nlng
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 21, 2008, 09:31:19 PM
i know it is only three games into the season but i dont think I have seen as much offensive parity in this leauge in a long long time. There are some stud QB's in this leauge with Van Geisen from Curry, the kid from WNEC and the new QB from Framingham his name is Rich who has won 2 player of the week honors already... heck i think the leauge has 6-7 guys who are averaging over 100 yards a game rushing... with such good offenses it seems if Nicholls continues to be stingy on Defense they might challenge Curry... heck the whole Boyd side with Plymouth State, Curry, Nicholls, and Umass Dartmouth might be better then every team on the Bogan maybe other than Bridgewater... good season is on its way
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MC3 on September 22, 2008, 11:35:46 AM
Curry over WNEC - 42-21
Bridgewater St over Maine Maritime - 35-21
Salve Regina over Endicott - 24-14
Plymouth St over Mass-Dartmouth - 35-31
Worcester St over Mass Maritime - 42-17
MIT over Nichols - 42-38
Framingham St over Fitchburg St - 42-35
Coast Guard over Westfield St - 28-14
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 22, 2008, 01:15:30 PM
Curry kills WNEC 60-21
Bridgewater over Maine 28-13... Bridgewater D too tough for Maine
Endicott over Salve 23-12... I like Endicott to rebound
Plymouth State over Umass D 30-28... i believe this will be the game of the week and the winner has the inside track to their repective showdowns with Curry
Worcester over Mass Mar 31-13... i think Worcester gets back on track and wins big no upset this year
Nichols over MIT 21-14... MIT will face a worthy D in Nichols and come out on top
Framingham over Fitchburg 42-28... Another shootout for Framingham but i think they come out on top again
Westfield State over Coast Guard 21-7... Westfield has a very good defense that Curry exploited... i dont think CGA has a good as offense as Curry so i look for Westfield to shut them down
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on September 23, 2008, 08:54:29 AM
Here's Where The Games Start To Matter!! Welcome To Divisional Play Finally.

Curry Plays Like "Curry" 50-7
Slave Over Endicott 23-14
UMass D over Plymouth (Game of the Week Perhaps) 35-28
Worcester too strong for Mass Maritime 27-10
Nichols Slows MIT Run Game 27-20
Bridgewater Over Maine 24-17
Westfield Rebounds on CGA 35-10
Fitchburg over Framingham 35-27

Good Luck To All!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on September 23, 2008, 10:24:03 AM
Curry Destroys WNEC: 50-12
Salve in a close one over EC: 24-21
Worcester State over Mass Maritime: 45-14
Bridgewater State tops Maine Maritime: 24-10
Nichols over MIT: 42-35
Fitchburg State over Framingham St: 31-14
Westfield tops Coast Guard: 38-21

Game of the Week:
Plymouth State tops UMD to jump into the New England polls
38-35
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on September 23, 2008, 12:27:29 PM
Divisional play starts and in the Boyd we all know Curry is the team to beat.  I think UMD could be that team, but they got to get by Plymouth this week.  If they do, watch out.  In the Bogan it's possible that a 5-2 record could win the division, in a tie-breaker.  I don't think Coast Guard is the team to beat this year and that opens it up.  The team that can find some defense will probably come up on top, but haven't seen much of that yet.  My picks this week.

Boyd Division:
Curry doubles up WNEC, 42-21
Salve Regina over Endicott, 27-10
MIT outlasts Nichols, 35-28
UMD edges out Plymouth, 28-21  This is the Boyd game-of-the-week and UMD wants it more.

Bogan Division:
MMA squeaks by Bridgewater, 28-27, but team that makes the least mistakes will win.
Westfield over Coast Guard, 28-14
Framingham over Fitchburg, 35-33,  Framingham is still on a high after the last second win last week and Fitchburg is still looking for that train that ran them over last week.
Worcester takes it to Mass Maritime and wins walking away, 35-14
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on September 24, 2008, 05:02:14 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 18, 2008, 10:12:00 AM
Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......................................

Thanks for playing. No sharing of e-mail addresses. And "your brother" wouldn't have been posting from the places you posted from.


Boooo....Guru killed one of the only reasons to visit this board.  That kid would have continued to dig himself a huge hole....'using my brothers e-mail' is classic.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 24, 2008, 06:26:42 PM
 I'll put up my picks on Friday , still digesting .
Dingle Dangle where are your picks?
I'll see you up there on Sat.
The boy and I have to beat feet after the game
we have a wedding to go to @ 6:oo in Randolf
See ya SAT
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dingle40 on September 25, 2008, 04:21:56 PM
plymouth beats Umass D
what time on saturday TOM? im thinking about a possible twelvie before the game. any thoughts?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 26, 2008, 08:23:09 PM
 Wet weekend
Let the running game begin
ok heres my picks
Curry over Wnec
Ec over Salve
Nicols over MIT
and the game of the week
PSU over UMass

BSU over MMA
Framingham over Fitchburg
CGA over Westfield
Worcester over Mass MA

I feel like I'm forgetting a game
Did you guys want points with the games or is good enough
                               nlng
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 28, 2008, 12:51:26 PM
 PSU over UMD 30- 10
Plymouths defense totally shut down J.T. Harold he only had 74 yds all game . The rain held off , it actually was quite comfortable .
Jeff Mack had another great game 200 + yards . The teams seems like it's starting to gel . The younger players are really stepping up . I think PSU's program is on the mend & on track to be the PSU of old .

Curry won again , what a surprise .
MIT won
Salve won

I think this year seems to have more parity, any given Sun Saturday.
Iwas surprised to see there wasn't any more posts since my last.
What games did people go to this weekend and what is your outlook?
I'll be waiting since I'm on vaca this week coming .

C'mon lets push this pages along.

                                        N L N G
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 28, 2008, 03:03:16 PM
the suprise of the week is maine maritime beating bridgewater... that was a shocker and congrats to plymouth beating up on umass d... i honestly feel plymouth might take over and win the boyd...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on September 29, 2008, 10:34:29 AM
Well, I went 5-3 this week with my picks

almost got a couple of the scores right too

how did everyone else do?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on September 29, 2008, 11:12:08 AM
I also was 5-3 for the week.

Was at the Bridgewater vs Maine Maritime game and weather wasn't a factor.  Maine has the running game working and BSC couldn't do much to stop it.  Maine is running the wishbone and this year the QB (Angell) has a year under his belt with this system and isn't making many mistakes.  Passing still isn't great, but good enough to keep you honest.  He burnt BSC with two long passes that were spot on for TDs.  The other running backs are fast enough to break it on any one play so you just can't key on the fullback Bower.  Maine's defense is still coming along and that is their weakness.  BSC had a sub-par day passing and that hurt them.  Their backfield is very fast and at times Maine was chasing them allover the field.  They were all most the game breaker that got BSC back in the game, but they fell behind early, 21-3 at halftime and couldn't catch up.  BSC is still going to be a team that can win every week so this was a big win for Maine.

There are some good match-ups this week in the Bogan so it will be interesting to see who starts to pull ahead of the pack.  Other than the MIT-UMD game in the Boyd I don't see any real surprises this week.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 29, 2008, 01:14:46 PM
 I didn't fair as well as you guys , I went 4 for 4 .
I would've like to have seen the MIT> Nichols game , pretty evenly matched.
What's going on with EC this year ? Is Salve that strong this year? We'll see how good MIT is, in this coming week playing UMD , UMD doesn't want to lose 2 in a row. Did anyone go to the Curry game ? Are they as tough as last year ? WNEC I thought looked good last year, still young though. Seems like the Boyd side has the better teams this year I could be wrong though.

Looking ahead this could come down to the wire . I think the NEFC is looking pretty strong as a whole , who knows this could be the year.

I try to get my picks in early this , I might have to edit them a couple times, thats ok isn't it ?
                                        NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on September 30, 2008, 08:48:36 AM
I see there were some very good performances this weekend even with the bad weather. I went 4-4 as well nlng. Not as many good matchups this week as in the past. Do you guys thinks MIT will be able to give UMD a legit game or is UMD simply to strong.

My picks are:

Bridgewater over Fitchburg 35-32 Fitchburg has NO "D"
Westfield Wins Over MEM
Plymouth beats WNEC with a good performance by Mack 27-21
Nichols beats a weak Endicott 28-12
Curry over Salve 49-6
Worcester St over Framingham 21-20 (Probably be a Close Game)
CGA beats Mass Maritime
and for giggles MIT upsets UMD in a nailbiter
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 30, 2008, 09:48:32 AM
 All right already
We turned another page 126 only 74 to go

OK here are my picks for this week
I'm going with mostly home teams this week

PSU over WNEC (Mack has another 200+ game)
Not slighting WNEC by any means,

BridgeH2O over Fitchburg

Curry over Salve (love to see an upset here) I think
this will be a better game than people think. Salve has
been playing good ball. This will test them for sure .

Westfield over Maine Maritine

Nichols over EC (I'd liked to see EC pull this one out
this week) I don't think it will happen though .

Framingham over Worchester ( who would of thought this years ago )

Coast Guard over Mass Maritine

UMD over MIT again MIT could upset the apple cart

Well thats it for me this week on picks . Get your picks in early .

We only have 74 more pages to hit 200 .

                         " MOVE THOSE CHAINS "

                                  good luck all

                                       NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on September 30, 2008, 12:42:32 PM
Boyd Division

Curry over Salve, 35-14.  Salve Regina is at home and upset would be cool to see, don't think it will happen this week though.
Nichols over Endicott, 42-14
Plymouth over WNEC, 28-14.  Might even be a bigger score for Plymouth.
UMD over MIT, 28-24.  This could go either way, but don't see UMD losing two in a row and not at home.  MIT has been racking up the points so a win here wouldn't be a big surprise and would show if MIT is real or not.


Bogan Division

Bridgewater over Fitchburg, 35-31.  Bridgewater rebounds at home, can't lose two in a row or they're out of it, and Fitchburg has yet to show enough defense to beat the better teams.
Maine Maritime over Westfield, 35-28.  Maine running attack is too much.
Coast Guard over Mass Maritime, 24-7.  Coast Guard won't shut out Mass for the fourth year straight.  Would be nice to see a close game and even a Mass Maritime upset win.
Framingham over Worcester State, 24-21.  This is hard one to pick this week.  I'm going with Framingham as they're at home and it's homecoming week for them.  They also need to win to not start 0-2 which puts them out of contention early.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on September 30, 2008, 02:47:39 PM
looks like some pretty good games this week. A couple that are prime for an upset.

I will get my picks in a little later this week
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 01, 2008, 02:48:04 AM
  ok lets get it out in the open , who's your home team ? What colors are we all flying ? I'm sure by now you've figured out who I root for every week. Lets hear from others.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 02, 2008, 08:30:55 AM
 Where are everyones picks ..... 63-- X... Gull...ITM... Dingle.... JU...U8...etc
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MC3 on October 02, 2008, 04:10:32 PM
Bridgewater St. over Fitchburg St - 56-35
Curry over Salve Regina - 42-21
Westfield St. over Maine Maritime - 35-31
Plymouth St. over WNEC - 42-14
Nichols over Endicott - 38-21
Framingham St. over Worcester St. - 38-28
Coast Guard over Mass Maritime - 28-7
Mass Dartmouth over MIT - 35-31
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on October 02, 2008, 06:08:27 PM
Curry tops Salve: 45-27
Nichols over Endicott: 28-10
Worcester St. over Framingham: 35-7
Fitchburg over Bridgewater: 45-40
Coast Guard over Mass Maritime: 40-35
Maine Maritime over Westfield St.: 30-14
MIT over UMD: 35-28
Plymouth State over WNEC: 42-21

Good Luck this week everyone!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dingle40 on October 02, 2008, 07:23:41 PM
imy pick says Plymouth wins its homecoming game. you can all guess who my home team is.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 02, 2008, 07:26:09 PM
            Atta Boy ....Dingle
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan81 on October 02, 2008, 08:22:06 PM
Hello everyone im new to this site but i have been a long time new england area football fan. I like how the leagues been doing this year, especially with some strong emerging teams. Anyways here are my picks for the week.
Bogan
Bridgewater st over Fitchburg 27-20-Bridgewaters pass coverage holds strong in the final drive.

Maine Maritime over Westfield 36-24- I mean who can stop maines rushing attack right now with well over 300 yards a game, but westfield throws for 3 scores in the contest.

Coast Guard defeats mass maritime 32-7 Coast guard just too much for mass

Framingham over worster st. 28-24 Turnovers will decide this one

Boyd

Nichols college over endicott 22-14 Endicott is in a development stage, nichols wins on the final drive

Mass Dartmouth over MIT 26-14 MIT finally faces a legitimate defense and cant get their offense rolling

Curry over Salve Regina 36-7 Curry is once again too strong for most

Plymouth state over WNEC 28-14 Passing attack very strong for WNEC but not nearly enough
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 03, 2008, 07:59:35 AM
 Welcome aboard FF81 (footballfan81)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 03, 2008, 04:27:56 PM
                                           It's Friday

                     Where are everybody elses picks?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on October 04, 2008, 09:24:13 PM
Went 7-1 for the weekend.  I picked Nichols over Endicott and it looks like most of us called that one wrong.

My colors are Maine Maritime, son is on the football team. 

MMA vs Westfield went down to the wire.  MMA got over 200 yards rushing, but Westfield actually did a good job containing the run, especially in the second half.  Both teams hurt themselves with costly turnovers and bad penalties.  MMA lost a touchdown to a penalty and the very end of the game Westfield lost a first down to a holding penalty.  Whenever either team had to work on a long drive each defense step up and force a punt, downs, or a turnover.  So there were many short drives for touchdowns.  For Westfield they're a very good 0-2 team and will give other teams problems and will likely be the spoiler against somebody.  In this game the MMA defense finally held their own, which has been lacking so far.

I'm somewhat surprised the Bridgewater beat Fitchburg as bad as they did and Framingham took it to Worcester State.  Makes me think the Worcester State and Fitchburg are weaker than I would have thought.

No surprises in the Boyd other than the Endicott-Nichols game.  And this was a road game for Endicott.  Good for them.  UMD showed that MIT is good, but not a contender.  Anybody have any info on the Curry-Salve Regina game.  Looks like Salve held their own.  Going to make the Curry-Plymouth game one to see.  To bad we have to wait three more weeks.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan81 on October 05, 2008, 09:08:49 PM
I went 7-1 on the weekend as well..

Surprise on the endicott game but as everyone knows anything can happen at any time. For example rivalry games seem to always be close no matter the teams records which keep things interesting. Who wants to see a blowout anyways.

On a side note its nice to see that the nefc contains 4 of the top rushers in the country. Especially in a time more focused on the pass game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 05, 2008, 09:24:25 PM
a solid weekend of football... endicott with a huge win over Nicholls, this effectively ends any chance Nicholls had in the conference... also Salve seemed to play Curry tough, things seem to be turning for the better for Salve again... Bridgewater put a whooping on Fitchburg which i thought was quite a suprise... another surpise was Framingham over Worcester... i personally thought Worcester was going to take it to them since they played a tough schedule so far... without a doubt i think Mack from Plymouth is the conference's player of the year kid is a great football player... and look at Maine Martime being the top dog in the Bogan division ... a bad loss for Westfield who seems to have a very solid defense but seems to have a stagnant offense... if Maine can get thier defense on track they could be the team to beat in the Bogan...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MC3 on October 06, 2008, 12:07:17 PM
Plymouth St. over Endicott - 42-10
Nichols over Salve Regina - 28-24
Mass Maritime over Westfield St. - 24-21
Worcester St. over Maine Maritime - 35-28
Framingham St. over Bridgewater St. - 49-42
MIT over Curry - 42-38
Mass-Dartmouth over WNEC - 42-21
Coast Guard over Fitchburg - 35-24
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on October 06, 2008, 01:41:11 PM
A good week of football last weekend.

Not my best picks, going 4-4, but we can't get them all right all the time.

As for my colors, I am an Endicott fan. Played there for 4 years and was in the first football team ever at EC
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 06, 2008, 06:05:58 PM
 Mr. Kelly I'm waiting. Haven't seen you post yet , lets go !

Well I didn't do to to bad this week , I went 6 for 8 .
This past weekend up north was (windy) cold , those
cows feet were half frozen in the ground it made it
tough to tip them cows this week .
Jeff Mack looked awesome this week , he sat out the whole
2 nd half . The starters came out halfway in the 3 rd .
The score could have been a nightmare . The teams starting to
gel , not quite there but a little closer . I'm really surprised at
all the young kids they have coming up through the program
making some noise .
I'll try to get my picks in early this week , as I hope most of you do . We missed a few guys last week , maybe they were on vacation.
I think EC will be a tough game this coming week for PSU .

                                    NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on October 07, 2008, 09:12:33 AM
Good Morning Men. Good Weekend of football with another one on its way. I will get my picks in soon but I went 5-3. Some Decent Games Coming Up This Weekend. Can Endicott give PSU a Challenge as well as MIT and Curry? Sure to be a good game between Nichols and Salve
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on October 07, 2008, 01:14:50 PM
Gotta get my picks in early this week...going out of town.

Plymouth State over Endicott: 42-21...as much as I want to pick EC, I don't think they can hang
Salve over Nichols: 35-30....another good game
Westfield tops Mass Maritime: 28-7
Maine Maritime over Worcester State: 21-10
Curry over MIT: 35-28...could be closer than people think
UMD over WNEC: 42-14
Coast Guard over Fitchburg: 28-21....Coast Guard seems to be getting in stride
Bridgewater over Framingham: 38-28

good luck everyone!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MC3 on October 07, 2008, 03:50:18 PM
If Framingham beats Bridgewater this week, you think they have a chance to win  Bogan Div? Thoughts???
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on October 07, 2008, 05:30:38 PM
My picks for the week.  Some tough games to predict.  Could be a bad week.

Boyd:
Curry over MIT, 35-21.  MIT gives Curry an early scare, but Curry comes out on top in the end.  If MIT had done better against UMD I'd might have given them a better chance in this game.
UMD over WNEC, 42-21.  UMD keeps winning as WNEC doesn't have enough defense.
Plymouth over Endicott, 35-14.  Plymouth too much ground game for Endicott.  Though sooner or later Plymouth needs to find some passing to balance their offense.
Salve over Nichols, 21-20.  This could go either way.  I'm giving Salve the home field advantage.

Bogan:
Westfield cruises pass Mass Maritime, 42-7.
Maine Maritime over Worcester, 35-21.  I don't see Maine letting Worcester get close after the close call last week.
Fitchburg in a squeaker over Coast Guard, 42-41.  I see Fitchburg racking up the points this week and outlasting Coast Guard.  They're due for an outburst of points.
Framingham over Bridgewater, 35-33.  I see this as the game of the week in the Bogan.  Here's where we'll find out how good Framingham is and if they can contend.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 07, 2008, 05:38:56 PM
 MR. Kelly , c-mon I know you can do it , lets go !

MC3 it's to early to tell , they still have 2 teams in their way , nothing is impossible at this point . wouldn't that be something though , where is "sully must go " now ? I 'd love to hear his comment on this matter .
This is great weather for the kids to be playing in too . Not to hot not to cold . I'm curious how MIT will do this week , alot of good football still ahead
of us .

What happened to 63 center , did he miss last weeks picks ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 08, 2008, 06:57:04 PM
 we will never make it at this snails pace


                              lets " Gid er done "

                                     NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 09, 2008, 01:13:56 PM
for some reason Framingham gets more pub. then any other team on this page... i dont think they have a shot in hell at beating Bridgewater... they have beat Endicott, MIT, and Worcester... endicott and worcester are bottom dwellers in the leauge and MIT was a good win but they didnt handle them easily like a real contender such as UMass D... the only decent team they played in Nicholls they lost by 20 and they lost to a sub par Fitchburg team... Bridgewater also knows they can not afford to lose any more games if they want a shot at winning the boyd so they will come to play... even if they win they still have to beat Maine who beat Bridgewater and beat Westfield and Coast Guard who both are good teams... i like the support but it seems Framingham is still 2-3 years away before contending...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 09, 2008, 01:19:46 PM
Plymouth State over Endicott: this one wont be close Plymouth is too strong
Nichols over Salve: Salve has made improvements this year but i think Nichols is a bit to strong
Westfield tops Mass Maritime: this one is obvious, Mass is the doormat this year
Maine Maritime over Worcester State: Worcester has a good run D so it will be close but i think Maine is too much, no one has been able to stop them, close game though, 34-31
Curry over MIT: i would love to see MIT win this game, but it wont happen curry big 32-13
UMD over WNEC: this could get ugly quick Umd wins by 30
Coast Guard over Fitchburg: Coast Guard is coming alive i think they win this week and start to get back on track... everyone has seem to forgot they have won the division the past 2 years... dont look past them
Bridgewater over Framingham: this will make Bridgewater vs Coast Guard even more importnat next week ... Framingham has improved which is great for the leauge, but Bridgewater played great last week and thier tough early schedule is starting to pay dividends

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 09, 2008, 07:03:50 PM
 Hey Boxer what happened to 63 Center haven't heard from him since last fall. Is he ok ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan81 on October 09, 2008, 11:41:12 PM
Plymouth over endicott
Salve over Nichols
Westfield over Mass
Maine over Worcester st
MIT over Curry
UMD over Wnec
Fitchburg over Coast guard
Framingham over Bridgewater
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 09, 2008, 11:54:02 PM
nlng- im not sure what happen to 63 Center... it would be good to get him back on the boards... i think he was an Endicott fan so maybe thier demise did him in haha... unfortunately we get alot of people on these boards every year but most just leave a post or two and thats it... it would be nice to see more regular activity on this board other than for picks during the week... i hope some of the other users who post picks will start up and contribute into some discussion to get these pages going

P>S what happen to SullyMustGo...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 10, 2008, 05:50:00 AM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on September 23, 2007, 09:08:56 AM
Wheres Sully?  Id love to hear his thoughts on the matter.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 10, 2008, 05:51:32 AM
Quote from: coach21 on September 23, 2007, 11:42:42 AM
Well not the real sully but the former sullymustgo......i have no idea where sully is these days. Probably running a decent highschool program into the ground.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 10, 2008, 05:53:01 AM
Quote from: nefan on January 02, 2008, 05:38:53 PM
The only team to be reckon with is Curry... I think the last loss they had in the NEFC was in 2004 @ UMass Dartmouth .... That is alot of "good" football... plus they are more active in recruiting and they look to be the cream of the crop for the next few years.... There are plenty of teams who might be able to step and beat them in one game... like a PSU, BSC, UMD and Coast Guard ..but it will be have to be one heck of a game.... Until they lose a game , the talk should be about who has the best chance to catch Curry..plenty of teams have improved and that is great for the NEFC..better football, better talent, more NCAA wins and more respect .... Building a program takes time and only time will tell if the schools can reach that level.... PSC is getting back to what it was.... We need Worcester to get back to where they were..they used to feared.... I can't wait to see some games in '08... 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 10, 2008, 05:54:23 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on December 16, 2007, 11:09:23 AM
i believe Curry is at the top of the list in the Boyd and is followed by Nicholls then Umass D at this point... on the other side of the conference i think Bridgewater is the top dog next season in the Bogan they have a lot of kids coming back and i think they are followed up by Coast Guard who was hit hard by graduation and after that its a toss up in the conference but im going with Fitchburg... if there D can at least stop the other O 3 times a game they are good to win 5 - 7 games i think
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 10, 2008, 05:55:11 AM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on December 16, 2007, 06:30:43 PM
    boxer you don't think PSU will be in that mix ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 10, 2008, 02:05:52 PM
i made a mistake forgetting about Plymouth before the season started... but as of right now i had to make a power rankings it would look like this

1. Maine Mar.                                    1. Curry
2. Bridgewater                                  2. Plymouth St
3. Coast Guard                                 3. Umass D
4a. Westfield                                     4. MIT
4b. Framingham                                5. Nicholls                   
6. Fitchburg                                       6. Endicott
7. Worcester                                     7. Salve
8. Mass Mar.                                     8. WNEc
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 10, 2008, 06:19:50 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 10, 2008, 02:05:52 PM
i made a mistake forgetting about Plymouth before the season started... but as of right now i had to make a power rankings it would look like this

1. Maine Mar.                                    1. Curry
2. Bridgewater                                  2. Plymouth St
3. Coast Guard                                 3. Umass D
4a. Westfield                                     4. MIT
4b. Framingham                                5. Nicholls                   
6. Fitchburg                                       6. Endicott
7. Worcester                                     7. Salve
8. Mass Mar.                                     8. WNEc


I think I'd agree with you on the Bogan side , but I think the Boyd side would look like this .



  1) Curry
  2) PSU
  3)UMass
  4) MIT
  5) Salve
  6 ) Nichols
  7) Endicott
  8) WNEC

                              just my opinion though
                                          NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 10, 2008, 06:25:07 PM
Quote from: nefan on January 04, 2008, 09:46:04 AM
stand corrected ( I didnt get out much in 05) .... Any new news on any front..coaching staffs, transfers, etc ..... Any new out of league contests for anybody? Any rumblings going on any where that might impact the NEFC? Does any one think that Castleton State will hurt PSC recruiting at all?   


What ever happened to Castleton State , did they get their team off the ground this year ? I looked through D 3 for football and I couldn't locate them , did I miss them somewhere ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 10, 2008, 06:27:03 PM
 I can't believe I'm going to take up this whole page.





MR. Kelly where are you ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on October 10, 2008, 06:48:13 PM
HEY NLNG!!!!!!!!
THEY FINALLY GAVE ME THE SEAL OF APPROVAL.
(must have been a heck of a background check)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 10, 2008, 07:19:57 PM
             Mr.K
You must of had a criminal record !
 

Welcome aboard  CB 23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on October 10, 2008, 08:15:01 PM
The calls from the ref at last plymouth game WERE a crime... >:(
give a cheer for dk 23 for me.  looks like i may not make it to the game.   :(

cb23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 10, 2008, 08:28:07 PM
              ok here goes this weeks picks

                        BOYD

PSU over Endicott ( move over Russ )
Salve over Nichols ( 1 Our Father )
Curry over MIT     ( can't out think this O )
UMass over WNEC ( JT express here we come )


                       BOGAN

Westfield over Mass Maritime  ( cellar dwellers )
Maine Maritme over Worchester ( no problem here )
Framingham over Bridgewater ( just a guess )
CoastGuard over Fitchburg ( mayday mayday)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on October 10, 2008, 08:59:51 PM
Hey NLNG!!!
do think the only way for P?lymouth playoff berth is thru Curry?
cb23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 10, 2008, 11:15:01 PM
Castleton is next year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 11, 2008, 06:29:38 AM
                     thanks Pat
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 11, 2008, 06:37:39 AM
Quote from: CB23 on October 10, 2008, 08:59:51 PM
Hey NLNG!!!
do think the only way for P?lymouth playoff berth is thru Curry?
cb23
Yes , Curry is still the one that is king of the raft , until someone knocks them off . Parity is here this year though , so one can never know . Any given Saturday, throughout the league .

CB23 , do you have to work today , is that why your going to miss the  game ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 12, 2008, 09:34:31 AM
 PSU looked good again Saturday , Mack played 3 qtrs this week (227yds)
It was 30-0 when he came out along with most of the other starters .

I don't know if they're saving their passing game for Curry , they only threw 3 times yesterday . They have the receivers too .

Salve beating Nichols , is Salve real deal this year ?

I hope MIT gave Curry a game , the score didn't really indicate that , but I didn't make that game .

WNEC big game over UMass , kind of surprised there . My hats off to WNEC to not giving up . UMass is a good team .

Changing of the guard in the Bogan

CGA losing
Bridgewater winning

Boy O boy things are a little different in the NEFC this year.

We're more than half way there now .
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 12, 2008, 06:11:27 PM
Few thoughts from this weekend

PSU vs Curry is going to be great and i think both teams have a shot at winning a NCAA game because of the parity that is going on in the EAST as a whole

Salve is the real deal this year... minus the debacle against Bridgewater they are playing some really good ball

UMASS D losing on saturday is a joke... WNEC is way down

Fitchburg killing Coast Guard was a suprise... a good win for Fitchburg who know puts themselves back in the race for the Bogan side

Hell the whole Bogan side is out of control... Worcester beating Maine turns everything upside down... heck if Framingham didnt blow a 28-7 lead to Bridgewater, i mean i cant believe im typing that, then they would of been in first place...i think the Bogan is tottally up for grabs i might as well flip a coin every weekend to pick their games... except whoever faces Mass Martime usually wins... i still think Bridgewater will win out in the Bogan though... they showed alot to me coming back this weekend to win the game ... but anyone minus Mass. Maritime actually has a shot at the Bogan right now... absoulutely crazy... has anyone ever seen this ... thoughts?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 12, 2008, 06:30:10 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 01, 2008, 02:48:04 AM
  ok lets get it out in the open , who's your home team ? What colors are we all flying ? I'm sure by now you've figured out who I root for every week. Lets hear from others.

Hey Boxer what colors do you fly?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 12, 2008, 08:25:34 PM
Bridgewater because im from that area... but i try to be as un bias as possible to keep this site going... it would be nice to get a poster for every team ...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 13, 2008, 07:41:57 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 12, 2008, 08:25:34 PM
Bridgewater because im from that area... but i try to be as un bias as possible to keep this site going... it would be nice to get a poster for every team ...

Hey Boxer what colors do you fly?
[/quote]

alright already

NLNG = PSU
Boxer = Bridgewater
ITM     =EC
Dingle=PSU
CB23  = PSU
VTtanker= MEM
MC3=   Nichols
Falcon= Fitchburg

OK who else
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Falconalum on October 13, 2008, 09:24:32 AM
Fitchburg State had a huge win this week. With that offense they're in it to win any game they play. If they force a few turnovers and their defense plays a bend but don't brake defense, they will win a few more games at least. The winner of the Bogan is definitely a toss up but right now I'd say Bridgewater is the front runner. Big game between FSC and Worcester State this weekend, hoowever every game is a big game in the bogan due to the fact that anyone could win(except Mass Maritime) The boyd however looks like it's either PSU or Curry. I'd like to see PSU take it this year just to have some different colors in the championship game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on October 13, 2008, 10:38:27 AM
Sorry Fellas for not getting my posts in last week. Some good upsets as well as some steady performances by some teams like PSU and Curry. What is the deal with UMD? Are they that inconsistent or what?

The Bogan Division is a mess right now since noone can win more than 2 games in a row and everyone is beating up each other. I couldnt say who will be on top by the end of the year. Someone could come out on top with 2 or 3 losses in the division.

This year will be won by Boyd Division again whether it will be Curry or PSU. I think they are the only real contenders but there are some spoilers out there.

Here are my picks early this week

UMD over Salve- UMD  plays football this week against a good Salve team
PSU over Nichols- Nichols run D will have to show up to beat Mack
Curry over Endicott- This game should be a breeze
Maine over Mass Maritime- For the Cup
Framingham beats Westfield- Hopefully they dont blow another lead
Bridgewater over CGA
Worcester over Fitchburg- Fitchburg had such high hopes this year
MIT gets back in their saddle over WNEC

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on October 13, 2008, 07:01:46 PM
I'm a Maine Maritime fan, but I agree with all the posts here that the Bogan is up for grabs.  Maine stole one from Westfield two weeks ago, only to let one get away at Worcester this past week.  I said earlier that it's possible that 5-2 will win the division.  So whatever the tie-breaker formula is will be critical.  There are five teams at 2-1, but four of them go at this week.  Every week is important this year and I wouldn't try to predict the team with the best shot just yet.

Last week I was 5-3 so here goes for this week.

Maine wins the Admiral Cup literally running all over Mass Maritime, 42-20.  Mass Maritime is near the bottom of D-3 in run defense and Maine is at the top in run offense.  Only pride keeps this one from being a complete blow out.
Bridgewater beats Coast Guard, 28-21.  Coast Guard doesn't repeat this year.
Framingham edges out Westfield, 31-28 to keep their hopes of winning the division possible.  The loser of this game is done and is just a spoiler from this point on.
Worcester over Fitchburg, 35-28.  Worcester has a fairly balanced offense and good enough defense to outlast Fitchburg.

Three of these games could go any way.

Looks like Curry and Plymouth are the teams to beat in the Boyd.  I thought UMD had a chance, but with two losses they're out of it.  That said Salve needs a lot of games to go their way to win the division.  Highly unlikely, but I'm giving them the nod this week against UMD.

Curry over Endicott, 42-21.  Curry seems to be a second half team lately, but that is still good enough to beat most everybody.
Plymouth over Nichols, 30-14.  Plymouth needs to be careful not to look a week ahead.  If they do this could be the upset of the week.
Salve over UMD, 28-27.  Salve wins to keep their hopes alive for a Curry or Plymouth collapse.
MIT over WNEC, 42-35.  MIT gets back to winning against the weak WNEC defense.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on October 14, 2008, 08:56:30 AM
I think Salve would not only need to have PSU beat Curry but also have Curry lose again to either Nichols or UMD in the following weeks. They would also need PSU to lose a game before they meet head to head and Salve would have to win that game as well since they have lost 2 in the conference already to keep their hopes alive.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on October 14, 2008, 01:25:47 PM
Here are my picks for the week:

Curry Destroys Endicott: 49-7
Plymouth over Nichols: 35-10
Salve over UMD: 27-24
Maine Maritime easily over Mass Maritime: 42-7
Framingham over Westfield State: 30-21
Coast Guard tops Bridgewater: 38-10
Fitchburg over Worcester: 35-28
MIT over WNEC: 34-10
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MC3 on October 14, 2008, 02:52:01 PM
Curry over Endicott - 42-17
Mass. Dartmouth over Salve Regina - 35-28
Nichols over Plymouth St. - 35-31
Maine Maritime over Mass. Maritime - 42-7
Coast Guard over Bridgewater St. - 42-38
Framingham St. over Westfield St. - 49-17
Worcester St. over Fitchburg St. - 28-24
MIT over WNEC - 49-45
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 14, 2008, 05:21:24 PM
hhmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on October 14, 2008, 07:33:15 PM
not to sure about the nichols over plymouth state pick from MC3... ::)
CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on October 15, 2008, 11:54:09 AM
Quote from: defenseiskey on October 14, 2008, 08:56:30 AM
I think Salve would not only need to have PSU beat Curry but also have Curry lose again to either Nichols or UMD in the following weeks. They would also need PSU to lose a game before they meet head to head and Salve would have to win that game as well since they have lost 2 in the conference already to keep their hopes alive.

No doubt Salve's chances are a million-to-one.  But until they're out of it I think that motivation might be enough to get by UMD this weekend.  And if Salve loses this weekend then it's a two horse race between Curry and Plymouth.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 15, 2008, 08:03:18 PM
For all those NEFC Posters that have been posting here for the last few years, sorry I am late getting started with my posts this year, been pretty busy.  I will try to get my picks in this week.  Things have been a little unusual this year with Framingham State looking good, EC down, USCGA is still a question.  Fitchburg State is not as strong this year, but as usual Curry is the team to beat.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 15, 2008, 08:31:37 PM
 NLNG welcomes back and old friend , we were wondering where you
were . 130 pages can you believe it . Lets keep it rolling . Have you been reading the posts or just getting back on line . It looks like the king is still on his raft , though there is alot more parity this year . How about MIT and Salve , holy smokes , who would have thought .
                                       again
                                         welcome back
                                             NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on October 15, 2008, 08:53:56 PM
I was looking at the AFCA poll today and was wondering why there is so much difference between what Pat and the other D3 Guys think compared to the AFCA poll? Like Ithaca is ranked on D3football poll but not even receiving votes on the AFCA poll.

Pat any insight?

P.S. Welcome back 63Center
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 15, 2008, 09:34:35 PM
Ithaca is getting votes in the AFCA poll, the equivalent of finishing 29th.

I think our poll is far more cognizant of strength of schedule, and we make sure our voters know exactly who each team is playing.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dingle40 on October 15, 2008, 09:58:29 PM
I say Plymouth spanks nichols and then i will see NLNG the following weekend for one hell of a game in the mountains. NLNG- Me and your boy may be in the makings of another spring break 2009...you in this time??
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 16, 2008, 05:35:42 AM
 Dingle , NLNG says why wait a week , lets start now and get a jump start
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on October 16, 2008, 01:13:14 PM
Everyone get their picks in for the week? Two days till we get to watch some more football!!

Lets Go Sox
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on October 16, 2008, 06:33:07 PM
hey all!!              CB23 here!!
here is my first shot at making picks   :-\

curry over endicott - 34-20
plymouth over nichols - 36-0
coast guard over bridgewater - 28-14
fitchburg over worcester - 24-10
mass.-dartmouth over salve regina - 28-21
main maritime over mass. maritime - 36-0
westfield over framingham - 35-21
western new england over mit - 35-32
the way the bogan standings and the remainder of the schedule, you may see a team come away in 1st place with 3 losses..
too bad only 1 team can come out of the boyd division.
isn't that what happened to plymouth last year?!?

hey nlng!!
is the tailgating at the beige r.v. open invite?
what is the scoop?!?!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 16, 2008, 06:58:08 PM
 Hey cb23,
Not bad picks for a newbe

Yes the Motor home is "open house" just watch out for "Barney Fieff" he's got a score to settle . Bring your own coffee cup , or whatever you want  to cook on the grill .

NLNG will get his picks in tommorrow. Thats how they talk in the E8 & LL,
always the way .
                                  NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 16, 2008, 06:58:56 PM
 negative 6 , whats up with that Pat ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on October 16, 2008, 07:22:37 PM
hey nlng!!
who is "barney fieff" and what score does he need to settle   ???

(oh, by the way, i don't drink coffee)   ;)
CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 16, 2008, 08:36:33 PM
NLNG didn't mention drinking coffee , NLNG just said bring your coffee cup .
                              ya know what NLNG means
            C'mon your Irish you know what NLNG means

Barney Fieff is the local chief of Po Po , his cruises the parking lot checking your coffee cup , he got bagged a few weeks back checking coffee cups and they were all empty , he was embarassed . He looks like Barney Fieff from Mayberry RFD . Once you see him you'll understand.

                                                NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 16, 2008, 08:49:53 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 16, 2008, 06:58:56 PM
negative 6 , whats up with that Pat ?

I guess sometime in the past 13 months you pissed six people off.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 16, 2008, 08:52:08 PM
 Isnt' that just too friggin bad !
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 16, 2008, 08:49:53 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 16, 2008, 06:58:56 PM
negative 6 , whats up with that Pat ?

I guess sometime in the past 13 months you pissed six people off.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on October 16, 2008, 09:08:31 PM
hey nlng!!
i know who barney fieff is,,,,
I met him about 3years back when my oldest (plymouth graduate '07)
was on work study for campus security. he lasted about a month.  ;D
CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 16, 2008, 10:54:01 PM
you plymouth state supporters are out of control... by the way defenseiskey what team do you root for... it would be nice to get a supporter from each team to get some inside information...even though a team from the bogan will prolly have 3 losses i dont think that is going to be a bad thing... it makes each week mean that much more... picks will be in tomoro... some huge games
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on October 17, 2008, 11:04:18 AM
Anybody know what the tie-breaker formula is in the NEFC.  I watch the Bogan more closely and I don't think 4-3 will be the winner, more likely 5-2.  But is the tie-breaker head-to-head or some other formula?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 17, 2008, 11:11:51 AM
A two-way tie is settled head-to-head, yes.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 17, 2008, 12:25:38 PM
curry over endicott - 34-20
plymouth over nichols - 36-0
coast guard over bridgewater - 28-14
fitchburg over worcester - 24-10
mass.-dartmouth over salve regina - 28-21
main maritime over mass. maritime - 36-0
westfield over framingham - 35-21
western new england over mit - 35-32

Curry over Endicott 41-21... no brainer
Plymouth over Nichols- 36-8... PSU is the best team this year
Bridgewater over Coast Guard... Coast Guard is down and BSU is not
Fitchburg over Worcester- 41-28... high scoring game but i like Fitchburg
UMD over Salve 32-17... i think UMD is pissed off
Maine over Mass 42-6... this could get ugly folks
Framingham over Westfield... a did this with a coin flip so Fram wins 21-20
MIT over WNEC 32-28... WNEC always pulls one win out of thier ass this year it was UMD
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 17, 2008, 01:25:48 PM
OK, let's see if I still have it. 

Curry 35 EC 6 
Plymouth 28 Nichols 14 
BSC 21 USCGA 14
Worecester State 35 Fitchburg 10
UMD 35 Salve 21
Maine Marintine 35 Mass Marintine 0
Framington 21 Westfield 18
MIT 35 WNEC 14
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Falconalum on October 17, 2008, 01:30:47 PM
Picks of the week:
Curry stays unbeaten against Endicott 35-14
Plymouth stays on track for the battle of titans by beating Nichols 42-21
Coast Guard wont lose two in a row in the bogan, beats Bridgewater 28-24
UMD has JT Harold thus beats Salve Regina 36-12
Maine rolls over MA maritime 45-7
Westfield wins with d. giving Framingham another dose of reality 17-14
MIT over WNEC 24-21

GAME OF THE WEEK- Fitchburg State 30 Worcester State 38
Two of the stars at Worcester State #1WR Dave Salvi and RB Will Early played for Fitchburg two years ago. They're looking to get revenge on their previous team but revenge isn't a good enough reason and they fall short. This will be a battle of the offenses just like it always is with Fitchburg.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 17, 2008, 01:34:52 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 16, 2008, 08:49:53 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 16, 2008, 06:58:56 PM
negative 6 , whats up with that Pat ?

I guess sometime in the past 13 months you pissed six people off.

Come on Pat, NLNG welsomed me back, give him something for that.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 17, 2008, 03:52:19 PM
                                   OK here we go

  Don't really want to piss anyone off,  thats not NLNG's nature.
                 If NLNG did , Tough $hit chew harder.
                                     Nuff said
                           
                               Ok my picks for this week

Curry over EC , not quite sure what has happened to EC this year
PSU   over Nichols , Jeff Mack another 200 +
BSC over CGA , boat is sinking , May day May day
Salve over UMD , Salve much improved this year
WNEC over MIT just barely
MME over MMA with his 2nd string after half
Westfield over Framingham close one
Fitchburg over Worchester down to the wire
                            cause NLNG says so
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 17, 2008, 05:26:46 PM
Quote from: 63Center on October 17, 2008, 01:34:52 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 16, 2008, 08:49:53 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 16, 2008, 06:58:56 PM
negative 6 , whats up with that Pat ?

I guess sometime in the past 13 months you pissed six people off.

Come on Pat, NLNG welsomed me back, give him something for that.

After 30 more posts, you can do that yourself. Anyone with 200 posts can do the karma thing.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 17, 2008, 06:09:49 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 17, 2008, 05:26:46 PM
Quote from: 63Center on October 17, 2008, 01:34:52 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 16, 2008, 08:49:53 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 16, 2008, 06:58:56 PM
negative 6 , whats up with that Pat ?

I guess sometime in the past 13 months you pissed six people off.

Come on Pat, NLNG welsomed me back, give him something for that.

After 30 more posts, you can do that yourself. Anyone with 200 posts can do the karma thing.

OK, NLNG hang in there, I am on the way to saving you from negative Karma!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 17, 2008, 10:02:39 PM
Quote from: 63Center on October 17, 2008, 06:09:49 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 17, 2008, 05:26:46 PM
Quote from: 63Center on October 17, 2008, 01:34:52 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 16, 2008, 08:49:53 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 16, 2008, 06:58:56 PM
negative 6 , whats up with that Pat ?

I guess sometime in the past 13 months you pissed six people off.

Come on Pat, NLNG welsomed me back, give him something for that.

After 30 more posts, you can do that yourself. Anyone with 200 posts can do the karma thing.

OK, NLNG hang in there, I am on the way to saving you from negative Karma!
63  NLNG sure would appreciate that
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 17, 2008, 10:11:46 PM
    Well alright 10 different people with picks this week
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 18, 2008, 01:28:12 AM



                                   Game on
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 18, 2008, 07:28:25 PM
 PSU again looked good , they even threw the ball with sucess.
Mack came out in the 3rd along with DeMarco , Mack still had over a 100+ rushing . PSU held Nichols inside the 10 for 10 plays (including penalties) Nichols came away with a field goal . Alot of laundry today , some NLNG understood and some NLNG didn't . Not very consistent.
Curry beat up on EC today with really no surprise
UMD wins
WNEC loses
CGA lost, what a turn around in the Bogan

Next week, big showdown between PSU & Curry , PSU at home . NLNG truly hopes it will be a better game than last year, with a different result.
Weather is getting colder every week now , perfect for the fall classic .
NLNG is sure both coaches will be getting less sleep than usual with the next game ahead.

Hey Boxer, NLNG thinks you went 7 for 8 this week , great picking.

                                          NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on October 19, 2008, 01:27:22 PM
Is Plymouth trying to save Macks legs for this week vs Curry. I hope this weeks game between Curry and PSU is better than the past couple of years when these games so hyped and Curry came out dominating. It should really be a battle with Mack and DeMarco against the speed of Curry Defense. I think that this is the main focus for both teams possibly? What is the other thoughts?

What is going on in the Bogan this year. NOONE can win consistantly on that side!

I went 6-2 for picks this week as well.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 19, 2008, 02:18:43 PM
Quote from: defenseiskey on October 19, 2008, 01:27:22 PM
Is Plymouth trying to save Macks legs for this week vs Curry. I hope this weeks game between Curry and PSU is better than the past couple of years when these games so hyped and Curry came out dominating. It should really be a battle with Mack and DeMarco against the speed of Curry Defense. I think that this is the main focus for both teams possibly? What is the other thoughts?

What is going on in the Bogan this year. NOONE can win consistantly on that side!

I went 6-2 for picks this week as well.
Why not save Mack for Curry , they have been up large in previous game and let the other kids play. If that is the plan then thats a good one .
It's amazing nobody has been talking about PSU's defensive line though . You've got two piles no one ever talks about. You two plyes have been playing very well along with JS .
PSU hasn't really used any secret weapons yet , reason being they haven't needed to . Pretty sure you all will see a great game next weekend, wait have I offended anyone yet ? good I didn't think so . Bring on the karma !
I believe Coach C is on the verge as being one of the best coaches PSU has ever seen . He doesn't get too riled up , other than BAD calls . With PSU on the winning track again this year it's only going to help him in years to come . recruiting .
Looking at the coaching staff at PSU , every coach has the same demeaner,
never getting too upset ,calming the boys down and jeepin them up , they are well aligned.
Even after this graduating class leaves , the program will suceed with the young talent behind them . I won't mention any names but you know who they are .
I was glad to see the "hairy monster " make it back this week . Don't get too aggrevated if everything isn't back yet, ie speed and strength , it will come .

I'm done doing the 3rd person thing I was making light of the LL & E8 . I think it's kind of foolishish if you ask me . Oh Oh I just offended someone , please leave my karma alone .

Big Yosh call me when you've got a min , Ryder misses you . Ryder will be at the game next Sat , he said you owe him a big game.
                                 as always have a good week
                                             NLNG ( dad )
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on October 19, 2008, 03:53:26 PM
NLNG seems you have offended someone else...Aw Well haha they'll get over it right?
Good to see another page down fellas

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on October 19, 2008, 03:58:57 PM
How do the pools work for the playoffs. Who goes to what pool? How do you get and AQ? etc.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 19, 2008, 05:47:31 PM
NLNG you better go back to talking in the 3rd person.  Maybe you won't offend anyone and your Karma will stay where it is.

Well I was 6-2 this week, OK for just getting back into things.  I guess I thought Framingham was better than they really are.  The Curry-PSC game shoud be a good one, but I think Curry will win by at least 10 points. 

No one wants to lead in the Bogan this year.  Shoudl make it easy fro Curry to win another NEFC title.  EC is really struggling this year.  Young QB learning the ropes.  Nogan teams seem to be up one week and down the next.

Well that's  all I got for now.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 19, 2008, 06:09:32 PM
Quote from: defenseiskey on October 19, 2008, 03:58:57 PM
How do the pools work for the playoffs. Who goes to what pool? How do you get and AQ? etc.

Basically, the NEFC champion gets an automatic bid, which in this conference goes to the winner of the title game.

Whoever loses the Plymouth-Curry game has an outside chance at a Pool C bid, one of the six true at-larges, but it's not a good chance. Pool B, the other three bids, are set aside for independents and members of conferences too small or too new to get the automatic bid.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on October 19, 2008, 06:50:15 PM
Thanks Pat... I knew it was along those lines just wasnt sure who goes in what pool.

Since I am watching football and am in the mood I my as well get my picks in. I know its early but aw well.

BOYD DIVISION
Game of the year(to date)  
Curry tops PSU- 38-14
MIT over Salve- close game 27-23
UMD beats Nichols- 27-14
Endicott goes 3-5 over WNEC- 28-27

BOGAN DIVISION
Bridgewater over Westfield-this is a tough one to decide since noone wants to remain on top in this division
Maine over Framingham- Again could go either way
CGA over Worcester- both are inconsitent
Mass Maritimee stays winless against Fitchburg
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on October 20, 2008, 09:12:41 AM
Well, I went 5-3 this week...my typical production

looks like some good games coming up this week, especially the show down between Curry and Plymouth State.

With the season winding down and the championship game approaching it will be great to see which teams are going to pack it up for the season, and which ones will work for next year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 20, 2008, 05:41:44 PM
 Not sure if       should be a 3rd person or not .         is so confused

50/50 last week

just picking 1 game this week , that game is ------
to be named later.

   Chew harder !
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 20, 2008, 05:43:34 PM
      63 center .... more posts please



                                     Thankyou
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 20, 2008, 06:34:52 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 16, 2008, 08:49:53 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 16, 2008, 06:58:56 PM
negative 6 , whats up with that Pat ?

I guess sometime in the past 13 months you pissed six people off.

Negative 7 Pat .... what's up?

You don't want me to piss in my Wheaties now do ya , remember what happened  the last time after I had my Wheaties.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 20, 2008, 08:43:45 PM
I have no idea. Remember, ANYONE with 200 or more posts can do the karma thing.

One general guidelines is that it seems people who complain about their karma are doomed to lose even more of it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on October 20, 2008, 10:05:18 PM
hey all!!
this new-be went 6-2 on 1st time picks. 8)
here are this weeks!!

plymouth over curry  28-21
salve regina over mit  38-24
umass-dartmouth over nichols 28-14
endicott over wnec  38-35
westfield st over bridgewater  24-21
worcester state over coast guard  32-14
framingham st. over maine maritime  28-24
mass. maritime over fitchburg  32-28  :-\

hey nlng!!
when does the pre-game festivities start this saturday??!?!??!

just wondering... what is this karma thing anyway

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 21, 2008, 05:19:49 AM
 They started on Friday night , hey has anyone seen my wheaties ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 21, 2008, 06:04:51 AM
 Pat
I would like to invite you up north this weekend , your going to see a great game . I'll be the one wearing a funny looking hat (multi -color ) with a coffee cup in hand . You can call me Bill.
                                    Despretley seeking
                                            NLNG
P.S.
I'll meet you at the beige motor home , wear something sexy
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 21, 2008, 10:23:05 AM
wow the pages are really starting to move... NLNG thanks for recognizing my picking skills this week... my only loss was the westfield vs framingham game... framingham looked like they mailed it in... but lets get back to business and talk some nefc football...

two huge games this week in my mind ... lets first start with the boyd division in PSU vs Curry... i think PSU will rely on the legs of Mack and Demarco and beat Curry ending their dominance of the NEFC for one year at least... this is the most vulnerable Curry team of the last 5 years and i think PSU has the firepower and more importantly the defense to stop Curry and come out on top...

im also rooting for Plymouth becuase as Pat said earlier we get an automatic bid and have a outside chance at a at large bid.. if Plymouth win the championship they are an automatic bid... if Curry loses but wins out they have a better chance then Plymouth at getting that at large bid because of thier past sucesss especially winning a playoff game last year and Plymouth somehow losting to Mount Ida... with the rest of the east down this year it is not impossible for the NEFC to get 2 bid and win another playoff game...

Bridgewater vs Westfield is huge game in the Bogan... i think whoever wins this game is going to take the Bogan... Westfield step up huge this week and took out Framingham in a must win for both teams... but i think Bridgewater is hungy and will win this game... another big game is Maine vs Framingham because Maine needs to keep pace whichever teams wins and i think Maine will win becuase they have something to play for and Framingham does not...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 21, 2008, 07:46:43 PM
 Does anyone think NEFC is getting better as a group? Getting more and better recruits . Is NEFC going to take on Castleton & Husson next or possibly Mt Ida and someone else ? Making the NEFC a bigger conference. It's pretty amazing actually how many schools are in New England .

My picks will be in later in the week.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on October 21, 2008, 09:24:41 PM
Just wondering?!?!
does wheaties have anything  to do with karma!??!?!?!?   ???
CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on October 21, 2008, 09:40:59 PM
I think only a select group of teams are getting better. Many of them are still very inconsistent. Plymouth and Curry are the only real two this year that could give another team in the country a run for their $$$$. Also the NEFC is big already I dont think it needs to add any more teams.
What this conference needs to do is to play more out of conference games like endicott and bridgwater did this year to try and get on the political map a little more.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on October 21, 2008, 10:32:04 PM
Quote from: defenseiskey on October 21, 2008, 09:40:59 PM
I think only a select group of teams are getting better. Many of them are still very inconsistent. Plymouth and Curry are the only real two this year that could give another team in the country a run for their $$$$. Also the NEFC is big already I dont think it needs to add any more teams.
What this conference needs to do is to play more out of conference games like endicott and bridgwater did this year to try and get on the political map a little more.


Agreed 100%......the NEFC doesn't need more mediocre teams.  You guys need to make a footprint in the LL and E8 like Curry did last year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on October 21, 2008, 10:45:03 PM
By plymouth opening up the season with a win against a division 2 school ( even though it was st. anselms), help get them on the political map more?
CB23   :-\
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 21, 2008, 10:51:27 PM
Union i agree right on but the leauge is getting better as a whole... we do not and i mean absolutely do not want to add on anymore teams because the leauge is watered down enough but the parity and the leauge as a whole is improving... Curry beating Hartwick last year was huge... WNEC schedules tough teams and did well by beating Hartwick last year... kudos to BSC playin Rowan tough to start and Endicott puttin up a fight with RPI to start the year even though they are a bottom dweller this year... its only going to help the leauge as a whole... eventually and hopefully teams like Fitchburg will open with the Springfields and beat them instead of putting up a game or getting blown out...

compared to years past when i didnt think the top eschelon of teams could even beat the bottom dwellers of the E8 and little leauge... the leauge has taken a great step foward at being competitive.. a middle of the pack UMD team took WPI to 5 overtimes and in all honesty should of won the game... WPI is 5-1 and there is talk they could go to the playoffs... I'm not saying the NEFC is in the same category as the LL but its a marked improvement over past years and i hope it continues...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on October 21, 2008, 11:01:16 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 21, 2008, 10:51:27 PM
Union i agree right on but the leauge is getting better as a whole... we do not and i mean absolutely do not want to add on anymore teams because the leauge is watered down enough but the parity and the leauge as a whole is improving... Curry beating Hartwick last year was huge... WNEC schedules tough teams and did well by beating Hartwick last year... kudos to BSC playin Rowan tough to start and Endicott puttin up a fight with RPI to start the year even though they are a bottom dweller this year... its only going to help the leauge as a whole... eventually and hopefully teams like Fitchburg will open with the Springfields and beat them instead of putting up a game or getting blown out...

compared to years past when i didnt think the top eschelon of teams could even beat the bottom dwellers of the E8 and little leauge... the leauge has taken a great step foward at being competitive.. a middle of the pack UMD team took WPI to 5 overtimes and in all honesty should of won the game... WPI is 5-1 and there is talk they could go to the playoffs... I'm not saying the NEFC is in the same category as the LL but its a marked improvement over past years and i hope it continues...


Again....agreed.

The NEFC has a huge conference as it is....don't add more below average teams....my point is to not get locked into playing more below average teams.  Curry can continue to play a weak schedule and get the AQ.  Curry needs to step up for the betterment of the league and play the RPI's and Ithaca's of the region and win.  Last years win vs. Hartwick was huge.....play a better OOC schedule and gain respect and visibility on a national/regional scope.

Continuing to be the NEFC power and playing no one outside does not help unless more wins like the one vs. Hartwick are on the horizon.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 22, 2008, 07:00:36 AM
Id also say that Plymouth St. is looking to put themselves back on the map, as they had been a regional power several times over the past 30 years.

As for Curry College, it seems like thier coaching staff puts out more effort than the other NEFC schools from what Ive seen.  I go to a lot of MA high school football games and Im always seeing Curry coaches at these games.  They are also at all the coaching clinics across NE that Ive been to.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on October 22, 2008, 08:56:47 AM
Is anyone going to make the trek to PSU for the big game or is nlng going to be all alone with his coffee cup?  ;) I think this game is going to be loaded with fans but then again it will be a nice brisk day up in NH
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on October 22, 2008, 01:44:36 PM
I agree that the NEFC is working towards improving itself and reputation. I think that when Coast Guard and Plymouth State joined the conference it was a step in the right direction.

It seems that in recent years more teams are going outside of the conference, and even sometimes outside of the division, for pre-season scrimages, and for the first 2 games of the season. This can only help in the long run.

Another aspect is that Curry finally got a win in the NCAA tournament. Finally, the NEFC isn't the punchline of Division 3 jokes. I think that players and coaches are seeing that a team from the NEFC can actually win outside of the conference and on the big stage. The mental aspect can go a long way.

Another reason is that now the private schools in the NEFC are increasing their tuition. So, instead of getting the big talent with the "private school" setting, a lot of players are going to state schools that are much more affordable.

Finally, a lot of schools are beginning to bring in full-time coaches. This allows the coaches to focus on football. Recruiting will obviously improve. The relationship between players and coaches will improve as well.

Well, to sum it up....the NEFC seems to be getting better. But it will take more than one year
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 22, 2008, 02:26:18 PM
Too bad the MA state schools are still some of the most expensive in the country.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 22, 2008, 08:09:06 PM
 Wow , I love the feedback .
Ok next question is, is NEFC too big , should they down size , break off and start another league ?
What is going to happen to Castleton next year ? don't you think the likes of Husson or Becker or Mt Ida should fall into a league , as opposed to being an independant . I think that in it self , hurts their programs. Has Husson , Mt Ida or Becker played any big games this year ? Sorry I haven't been following them . How would NEFC stack up against a NESC . Granted I know they feel their scholars are more importantant but it's still football , am I confused .
Pat you coming up here this weekend or what ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 22, 2008, 08:34:49 PM
                              Pat I'm waiting
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 22, 2008, 10:36:59 PM
I live in Minneapolis. Not making the trip, sorry.

Those independents formed a league and will play in the North Atlantic Conference. If you'd read Around the Northeast you couldn't miss it. :)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 23, 2008, 05:42:31 AM
 Thanks Pat , I missed that article . Now I see why you wouldn't make the trip liviving in Minny . A friend of mine lives in Minny , you might of heard of him before . Bill Smith GM for the Twins , he's from my home town .

It's too bad you'll miss this game , it's going to be ''smashmouth" football all day long .







quote Pat Coleman sazs
I live in Minneapolis. Not making the trip, sorry.

Those independents formed a league and will play in the North Atlantic Conference. If you'd read Around the Northeast you couldn't miss it. :)
[/quote]
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MC3 on October 23, 2008, 08:57:25 AM
Bridgewater over Westfield - 28-7
Framingham over Maine - 49-28
MIT over Salve Regina - 35-28
Coast Guard over Worcester - 35-21
Plymouth over Curry - 35-31
Mass-Dartmouth over Nichols - 42-21
Endicott over WNEC - 21-14
Fitchburg over Mass - 35-3
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on October 23, 2008, 10:15:52 AM
My picks for the week:

Plymouth over Curry, 15-14 - Last team with the ball wins this one
MIT over Salve, 28-24
WNEC beats Endicott, 28-21
UMD blows by Nichols, 35-14

In the Bogan which gets tougher each week to figure out:
Bridgewater over upset minded Westfield, 35-28
Maine holds off Framingham, 28-21
Worcester rebounds and beats Coast Guard, 28-24
Fitchburg is too much for Mass Maritime, 35-14
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on October 23, 2008, 01:28:01 PM
Well, I guess I have put it off long enough. Here are my picks for an exciting week of football in the NEFC

Bridgewater tops Westfield: 28-14
Maine Maritime over Framingham: 42-12
MIT over Salve: 35-28
Coast Guard tops Worcester: 28-7
UMD over Nichols: 35-7
Endicott over WNEC: 38-21
Fitchburg over Mass Maritime: 56-7

Finally, the game of the year in the NEFC....

Curry over Plymouth: 28-24

As much as I'd like to see someone come in and knock off the top dog I just can't pick against Curry. They have been the king in the NEFC and until someone knocks them off I have to pick them

Good luck everyone!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on October 23, 2008, 01:33:49 PM
NLNG:

In response to your question(s)

I do think that the NEFC is too big. When I played I thought it was too big, and that was before USCGA and PSU were added. When you look at your schedule, you have all of your conference/division games, there is only one week left in the season for any out of conference games.

I heard a rumor last year that the NEFC was going to break into two conferences and make it basically private schools in one conference and state schools in the other. But I guess that would take away an at large bid for the NCAA tourny.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 23, 2008, 06:11:26 PM
 ITM,
What year did you stop playing at EC , did you play with Kevin Hornburger ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 23, 2008, 06:16:49 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on October 23, 2008, 01:33:49 PM
NLNG:

In response to your question(s)

I do think that the NEFC is too big. When I played I thought it was too big, and that was before USCGA and PSU were added. When you look at your schedule, you have all of your conference/division games, there is only one week left in the season for any out of conference games.

I heard a rumor last year that the NEFC was going to break into two conferences and make it basically private schools in one conference and state schools in the other. But I guess that would take away an at large bid for the NCAA tourny.


Actually there are 2 weeks you can play outside the conference . We played a Div 2 team ( St . A's ) and a independent (Mt Ida )


Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 24, 2008, 05:51:16 AM
                        I'll have my picks in later today
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 24, 2008, 11:02:16 AM
OK, here are my picks for the week.

BSC 28  Westfield 14
Framingham 35 MEM 7
MIT 28 Salve 21
Worcester 21 USCGA 10 - The Coasties have not shown me anything that would make them worth picking
UMD 35 Nichols 7
EC 21 WNEC 14 - EC should win, but they have not been that reliable this year, and WNEC is really down.
Fitchburg 35 MAM 14

Game of the Season for NEFC - Curry 30 PSU 24 - I would love to see someone besides Curry win every year, but I just don't think it will happen this year.  Last year everyone though Plymouth State would do it and Curry manhandled them.  Hopefully it will be a closer game this year, but I still can't see Plymouth State unseating Curry.  One advantage that Plymouth State has is being home.

Good luck to all of the teams this weekend and may the best teams win (as long as I picked them).
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on October 24, 2008, 02:11:19 PM
NLNG:

I graduated in 2006 so my last playing season was 2005. My senior year was the year that EC finished ranked 7th in New England. I played a little with Kevin, he's a tough kid.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 24, 2008, 04:16:37 PM
Well it is about time we got around to the same question that has been asked and debated on this site for at least the last 6 years and that is: "Is the NEFC too big?"  The answer each year is a resounding "YES".  There is no way they can seriously consider adding any more teams unless they drop some.  I am not sure what it would do to the AQ if the dropped some teams and only had 1 division of about 6-8 schools. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 24, 2008, 04:23:24 PM
I agree that the quality of football in the NEFC has improved over the last few years.  I also agree that teams must continue to play tough opponents outside of the conference.  This is one place where the conference size hurts the scheduling.  I know that some of the state schools can't afford to travel either to play some of the tougher opponents.  I am not sure whether some of the tough LL or E8 schools would want to play against the weaker NEFC schools.  There certainly is a lot more room for improvement in the NEFC.  Curry winning a tournament game was a bug boost for recruiting in the NEFC.  Over the last 6 years I have not seen any real intense rivalries develop in the conference.  I could be missing something as I don't attend that many game, but if there were some really great rivalries, I think that would add some excitement and maybe help with recruiting. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 24, 2008, 04:24:50 PM
OK, here is a question for the NEFC folks to tackle, based on my last posting.

In your option, what are the biggest rivalries (if any) in the NEFC?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on October 24, 2008, 04:46:52 PM
Quote from: 63Center on October 24, 2008, 04:23:24 PM
I agree that the quality of football in the NEFC has improved over the last few years.  I also agree that teams must continue to play tough opponents outside of the conference.  This is one place where the conference size hurts the scheduling.  I know that some of the state schools can't afford to travel either to play some of the tougher opponents.  I am not sure whether some of the tough LL or E8 schools would want to play against the weaker NEFC schools.  There certainly is a lot more room for improvement in the NEFC.  Curry winning a tournament game was a bug boost for recruiting in the NEFC.  Over the last 6 years I have not seen any real intense rivalries develop in the conference.  I could be missing something as I don't attend that many game, but if there were some really great rivalries, I think that would add some excitement and maybe help with recruiting. 


Honestly, this is not meant to be a dig at Curry, but I would almost guarantee that the mid to upper echelon E8 and Liberty League would LOVE to play them during the regular season.  Curry has made it a habit of going undefeated in the NEFC.....many teams would salivate to get Curry's regional winning % on their resume for Pool C time.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 24, 2008, 06:17:17 PM
Quote from: Union89 on October 24, 2008, 04:46:52 PM
Quote from: 63Center on October 24, 2008, 04:23:24 PM
I agree that the quality of football in the NEFC has improved over the last few years.  I also agree that teams must continue to play tough opponents outside of the conference.  This is one place where the conference size hurts the scheduling.  I know that some of the state schools can't afford to travel either to play some of the tougher opponents.  I am not sure whether some of the tough LL or E8 schools would want to play against the weaker NEFC schools.  There certainly is a lot more room for improvement in the NEFC.  Curry winning a tournament game was a bug boost for recruiting in the NEFC.  Over the last 6 years I have not seen any real intense rivalries develop in the conference.  I could be missing something as I don't attend that many game, but if there were some really great rivalries, I think that would add some excitement and maybe help with recruiting. 


Honestly, this is not meant to be a dig at Curry, but I would almost guarantee that the mid to upper echelon E8 and Liberty League would LOVE to play them during the regular season.  Curry has made it a habit of going undefeated in the NEFC.....many teams would salivate to get Curry's regional winning % on their resume for Pool C time.

I actually think Curry gets a bad rap from a lot of people on the east boards.  I've seen them play 3 times in the last two years and I think they would compete in the LL or E8.  Im not saying they would win most of their games, but they could compete.  They have some legit size and speed on defense but lack the skill positions on offense to put up points against regionally ranked teams like Ithaca, SJF or Union.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on October 24, 2008, 06:22:02 PM
Guys, I've been checking this board out for a while and decided to finally check in.  Great insight on the NEFC...thank you for keeping many of us updated on the happenings.  I will try to post when I can, but as for predicting scores...I only have one 1 this week:

THE Plymouth State Panthers 20
Curry 13

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on October 24, 2008, 07:07:40 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 24, 2008, 06:17:17 PM
Quote from: Union89 on October 24, 2008, 04:46:52 PM
Quote from: 63Center on October 24, 2008, 04:23:24 PM
I agree that the quality of football in the NEFC has improved over the last few years.  I also agree that teams must continue to play tough opponents outside of the conference.  This is one place where the conference size hurts the scheduling.  I know that some of the state schools can't afford to travel either to play some of the tougher opponents.  I am not sure whether some of the tough LL or E8 schools would want to play against the weaker NEFC schools.  There certainly is a lot more room for improvement in the NEFC.  Curry winning a tournament game was a bug boost for recruiting in the NEFC.  Over the last 6 years I have not seen any real intense rivalries develop in the conference.  I could be missing something as I don't attend that many game, but if there were some really great rivalries, I think that would add some excitement and maybe help with recruiting. 


Honestly, this is not meant to be a dig at Curry, but I would almost guarantee that the mid to upper echelon E8 and Liberty League would LOVE to play them during the regular season.  Curry has made it a habit of going undefeated in the NEFC.....many teams would salivate to get Curry's regional winning % on their resume for Pool C time.

I actually think Curry gets a bad rap from a lot of people on the east boards.  I've seen them play 3 times in the last two years and I think they would compete in the LL or E8.  Im not saying they would win most of their games, but they could compete.  They have some legit size and speed on defense but lack the skill positions on offense to put up points against regionally ranked teams like Ithaca, SJF or Union.


So Utah, are you saying the SJF's, Union's and Ithaca's of the world would not want a shot at a 9-0 Curry playing only NEFC competion??

That was my sole point in that post.  Curry could almost pick their opponent.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 24, 2008, 10:19:15 PM
       ITM,
I've  known Kevin since 1st  grade . I used to coach him in baseball ,along with my son . I still see him around . His nickname was "Tank "

                                MY picks this week

Bridgewater over Westfield
MEM over Framingham
CGA over Worchester
Fitchburg over MMA

Nichols over UMD
EC over WNEC
Salve over MIT

                                  Game of week

Plymouth over Curry in overtime
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 25, 2008, 08:05:57 AM
Quote from: Union89 on October 24, 2008, 07:07:40 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 24, 2008, 06:17:17 PM
Quote from: Union89 on October 24, 2008, 04:46:52 PM
Quote from: 63Center on October 24, 2008, 04:23:24 PM
I agree that the quality of football in the NEFC has improved over the last few years.  I also agree that teams must continue to play tough opponents outside of the conference.  This is one place where the conference size hurts the scheduling.  I know that some of the state schools can't afford to travel either to play some of the tougher opponents.  I am not sure whether some of the tough LL or E8 schools would want to play against the weaker NEFC schools.  There certainly is a lot more room for improvement in the NEFC.  Curry winning a tournament game was a bug boost for recruiting in the NEFC.  Over the last 6 years I have not seen any real intense rivalries develop in the conference.  I could be missing something as I don't attend that many game, but if there were some really great rivalries, I think that would add some excitement and maybe help with recruiting. 


Honestly, this is not meant to be a dig at Curry, but I would almost guarantee that the mid to upper echelon E8 and Liberty League would LOVE to play them during the regular season.  Curry has made it a habit of going undefeated in the NEFC.....many teams would salivate to get Curry's regional winning % on their resume for Pool C time.

I actually think Curry gets a bad rap from a lot of people on the east boards.  I've seen them play 3 times in the last two years and I think they would compete in the LL or E8.  Im not saying they would win most of their games, but they could compete.  They have some legit size and speed on defense but lack the skill positions on offense to put up points against regionally ranked teams like Ithaca, SJF or Union.


So Utah, are you saying the SJF's, Union's and Ithaca's of the world would not want a shot at a 9-0 Curry playing only NEFC competion??

That was my sole point in that post.  Curry could almost pick their opponent.

That's a good question.  I mean, SJF beat them last year like they beat many other upstate teams.  Does the upstate team like IC or SJF want to take that chance that they might even lose to that NEFC team?  Both SJF and IC (and especially SJF in the last few years) like to play anyone at anytime.  A team like RPI on the other hand would want nothing to do with Curry.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 25, 2008, 09:15:59 AM


                                     Game Time
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on October 25, 2008, 11:21:20 AM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 25, 2008, 08:05:57 AM
Quote from: Union89 on October 24, 2008, 07:07:40 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 24, 2008, 06:17:17 PM
Quote from: Union89 on October 24, 2008, 04:46:52 PM
Quote from: 63Center on October 24, 2008, 04:23:24 PM
I agree that the quality of football in the NEFC has improved over the last few years.  I also agree that teams must continue to play tough opponents outside of the conference.  This is one place where the conference size hurts the scheduling.  I know that some of the state schools can't afford to travel either to play some of the tougher opponents.  I am not sure whether some of the tough LL or E8 schools would want to play against the weaker NEFC schools.  There certainly is a lot more room for improvement in the NEFC.  Curry winning a tournament game was a bug boost for recruiting in the NEFC.  Over the last 6 years I have not seen any real intense rivalries develop in the conference.  I could be missing something as I don't attend that many game, but if there were some really great rivalries, I think that would add some excitement and maybe help with recruiting. 


Honestly, this is not meant to be a dig at Curry, but I would almost guarantee that the mid to upper echelon E8 and Liberty League would LOVE to play them during the regular season.  Curry has made it a habit of going undefeated in the NEFC.....many teams would salivate to get Curry's regional winning % on their resume for Pool C time.

I actually think Curry gets a bad rap from a lot of people on the east boards.  I've seen them play 3 times in the last two years and I think they would compete in the LL or E8.  Im not saying they would win most of their games, but they could compete.  They have some legit size and speed on defense but lack the skill positions on offense to put up points against regionally ranked teams like Ithaca, SJF or Union.


So Utah, are you saying the SJF's, Union's and Ithaca's of the world would not want a shot at a 9-0 Curry playing only NEFC competion??

That was my sole point in that post.  Curry could almost pick their opponent.

That's a good question.  I mean, SJF beat them last year like they beat many other upstate teams.  Does the upstate team like IC or SJF want to take that chance that they might even lose to that NEFC team?  Both SJF and IC (and especially SJF in the last few years) like to play anyone at anytime.  A team like RPI on the other hand would want nothing to do with Curry.


I hear what you're saying , but don't agree.  Playing Curry in the regular season has a ton of upside, which is much greater than the potential downside.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 25, 2008, 07:55:00 PM
 PSU win over Curry was huge !
PSU controlled the clock by 15 min ,yes 15 min .
PSU defense was CRAZY ask Curry they'll tell you .
Red Zone Defense # 1 for sure
The game score should of been 35 -3 ask anyone who was there .
PSU totally dominated the game .
The only thing working for Curry was the flats , That's it !
I picked PSU in OT but didn't need it .
All cylinders working ( Offense & Defense )
Curry definetly big up front but PSU with the bigger heart.
Glad to see PSU go to the air , as they had the tools to do so all year ,but didn't need to till today . Coach Cass is one hell of a coach if you ask me .

Finally knocking the KING of his raft is a good feeling , believe me .

Glad to see  Bill was there with the funny hat < where's Pat ?
Going forward and looking at PSU for years to come ,they are in good shape . Alot of kids played today Fros , Soph etc PSU is on the mend !


                                        "just my opinion "

                                              NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 25, 2008, 08:15:00 PM
 X < MC 3 <VT & me were the only ones who had PSU


                              Nuff said
                           
                                         NLNG   
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 26, 2008, 12:32:20 PM
OK, my picks officially sucked.  Congrats to PSU for unseating Curry.  I haven't looked at this weeks schedule to see who the poor soula are that have to face Curry after the lost, but I really feel sorry for them.

USCGA finally played a good game and got back on the winning track.  EC was another let down.  I am not sure what is wrong with EC this year, but they are rapidly approaching their worst record in their short history.  Framingham is returning to their old losing ways after starting the season stong.  MIT is really a surprise team this year and looking like they copuld win a few more yet.

NLNG, good call on the PSU win.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 26, 2008, 12:34:29 PM
Quote from: CB23 on October 10, 2008, 08:59:51 PM
Hey NLNG!!!
do think the only way for Plymouth playoff berth is thru Curry?
cb23

There is now a new king of the raft !
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 26, 2008, 12:46:23 PM
      63 you should of seen this game !
            PSU totally dominated
Curry only had 24 yds rushing , PSU gave up the short pass , but I believe that was thier game plan . Curry was down in the Red zone several times and only came away with 3 pts . On one of the scores Curry had , the kid didn't even cross the pilon . That was 4th down if he didn't score . The crowd went wild after the Linesman called it a TD , it wasn't .
  The weather was cool at game time and spit a little rain . By the 4th quarter I was peeling layers .
   
       All PSU has to do now is win 1 more and they'll lock it up .
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on October 26, 2008, 04:54:52 PM
Congrats to Plymouth State.....great to see this once proud program back on it's feet!

Now dont let off the gas pedal boys, take this show to the Dance!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 26, 2008, 09:40:02 PM
 I can't believe nobody has talked about PSU vs Curry game .
It isn't a dream or nightmare Plymouth did beat Curry in a bad way .
I figured there would be way more conversation than this . Seems like I'm the only one gloating , as I should .

                                   "just my opinion "
                                       
                                         nuff said
                                   
                                              NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dingle40 on October 26, 2008, 10:13:23 PM
Wish i couldve seen the Plymouth game in person. NLNG -i will promise i will be at the championship game as long as the boys win 1 of the next 2. dingle wants to know who thinks the championship game will feature and where?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 27, 2008, 05:44:56 AM
 When  PSU wins the next 1 of 2 , I would say the game would be at Plymouth . I'd say the 15th @ 1:00 . Dingle where were you on Saturday ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: teamcurry23 on October 27, 2008, 05:57:10 AM
Congrats to PSU. Just a minor setback for the Curry program. They will return locked and loaded IMHO
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Falconalum on October 27, 2008, 09:33:06 AM
The three way tie in the Bogan division between Bridgewater St. Fitchburg St. and Maine Maritime is shaping up to be a photo finish. Although it looks as if  Maine Maritime can seal it if they win out because they do have the win over Bridgewater State and still have Fitchburg to play in the final game of the season. Bridgewater needs to win out and have Maine lose a game. And Fitchburg needs to win out and have Bridgewater lose a game. Not sure anyone is going to beat Plymouth State in the Championship but at least the Bogan Title is going to be interesting!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on October 27, 2008, 10:30:44 AM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 26, 2008, 09:40:02 PM
I can't believe nobody has talked about PSU vs Curry game .
It isn't a dream or nightmare Plymouth did beat Curry in a bad way .
I figured there would be way more conversation than this . Seems like I'm the only one gloating , as I should .

                                   "just my opinion "
                                       
                                         nuff said
                                   
                                              NLNG

NLNG, it should be expected that PSU wins not only the game, but becomes the team to beat in the NEFC as they were in the past (NEFC & FFC).  It was just a matter of time.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on October 27, 2008, 01:02:51 PM
Coach Castonia has done an amazing job up there. I mean there are tougher rebuilding projects, but that program was in the depths man. They still arent as talented from top to bottom as hey used to be, but the last 2 seasons should allow him to keep progressing to that point!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 27, 2008, 01:12:57 PM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on October 27, 2008, 01:02:51 PM
Coach Castonia has done an amazing job up there. I mean there are tougher rebuilding projects, but that program was in the depths man. They still arent as talented from top to bottom as hey used to be, but the last 2 seasons should allow him to keep progressing to that point!

Castonia is another coach who I always see out recruiting and at camps and stuff in the Boston area.  Hes always been very active and outgoing.  Good guy too.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 27, 2008, 05:40:22 PM
Quote from: teamcurry23 on October 27, 2008, 05:57:10 AM
Congrats to PSU. Just a minor setback for the Curry program. They will return locked and loaded IMHO

Thankyou team23 , it's been a long journey . I figured it was going to come down to the wire , I was quite surprised . I knew PSU had a good team this year along with last year as well . The true test was playing Curry
to see how we matched up .



Has anyone looked at the New England  Football Poll ? NEFC has 5 teams out of 10 , that's quite impressive if you ask me .

I think if other leagues that wants to play the NEFC teams , so  they can have bragging rights they need to come to us (travel) . Reason being our schools have no money in their budget to do so .

Why is it that Curry dropped down so many spots after just losing 1 game , I don't get it .

                                    "Just my opinion"
                                        nuff said

                                          NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 27, 2008, 05:42:38 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 17, 2008, 05:26:46 PM
Quote from: 63Center on October 17, 2008, 01:34:52 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 16, 2008, 08:49:53 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 16, 2008, 06:58:56 PM
negative 6 , whats up with that Pat ?

I guess sometime in the past 13 months you pissed six people off.

Come on Pat, NLNG welsomed me back, give him something for that.

After 30 more posts, you can do that yourself. Anyone with 200 posts can do the karma thing.

                                    30 more to go !
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 27, 2008, 06:31:57 PM
PSU now controls their own destiny in the NEFC.  They need to keep their focus or MIT could sneak up on them this weekend.  I fee sorry for Nichols this weekend.  Not only do they have the worst record in the NEFC, but they are going up against a Curry team that will be out for blood.  It could be ugly.

NLNG, let's not gloat too much over PSU beating Curry, it could come back to bite you. 
Title: sore losers
Post by: CB23 on October 27, 2008, 08:07:10 PM
from what i heard, curry did not take losing very well.  on the last play of the game, a curry player spit in demarco's face.  any truth to this?!?!    :o &  >:(

CB23
Title: Re: sore losers
Post by: dlippiel on October 27, 2008, 08:20:01 PM
Quote from: CB23 on October 27, 2008, 08:07:10 PM
from what i heard, curry did not take losing very well.  on the last play of the game, a curry player spit in demarco's face.  any truth to this?!?!    :o &  >:(

CB23

Let's hope not.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 27, 2008, 10:15:27 PM
Quote from: 63Center on October 27, 2008, 06:31:57 PM
PSU now controls their own destiny in the NEFC.  They need to keep their focus or MIT could sneak up on them this weekend.  I fee sorry for Nichols this weekend.  Not only do they have the worst record in the NEFC, but they are going up against a Curry team that will be out for blood.  It could be ugly.

NLNG, let's not gloat too much over PSU beating Curry, it could come back to bite you. 

                                   Let's hope not
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dingle40 on October 27, 2008, 10:58:53 PM
Lets hope not...from what i know of demarco he is a very mellow guy... he has no temper what so ever..very unemotional for a QB. sometimes hes a pushover if anything it seems. good luck to PSU taking home 1 of the next 2. anyone know for sure where the championship game is?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Falconalum on October 28, 2008, 01:40:54 PM
Now that the Boyd is pretty much decided, what are peoples thoughts on the Bogan side?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on October 28, 2008, 01:46:43 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 27, 2008, 05:40:22 PM
Quote from: teamcurry23 on October 27, 2008, 05:57:10 AM
Congrats to PSU. Just a minor setback for the Curry program. They will return locked and loaded IMHO

Thankyou team23 , it's been a long journey . I figured it was going to come down to the wire , I was quite surprised . I knew PSU had a good team this year along with last year as well . The true test was playing Curry
to see how we matched up .



Has anyone looked at the New England  Football Poll ? NEFC has 5 teams out of 10 , that's quite impressive if you ask me .

I think if other leagues that wants to play the NEFC teams , so  they can have bragging rights they need to come to us (travel) . Reason being our schools have no money in their budget to do so .

Why is it that Curry dropped down so many spots after just losing 1 game , I don't get it .

                                    "Just my opinion"
                                        nuff said

                                          NLNG

NLNG,

If you look at the poll all the teams that moved ahead of Curry won last week.  I think it's just natural that this would happen.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on October 28, 2008, 02:06:40 PM
Quote from: Falconalum on October 27, 2008, 09:33:06 AM
The three way tie in the Bogan division between Bridgewater St. Fitchburg St. and Maine Maritime is shaping up to be a photo finish. Although it looks as if  Maine Maritime can seal it if they win out because they do have the win over Bridgewater State and still have Fitchburg to play in the final game of the season. Bridgewater needs to win out and have Maine lose a game. And Fitchburg needs to win out and have Bridgewater lose a game. Not sure anyone is going to beat Plymouth State in the Championship but at least the Bogan Title is going to be interesting!

Even crazier is if Bridgewater and Fitchburg lost this week, but then next week if Fitchburg were to beat Maine Maritime it's possible to have a three way tie at 5-2 with nobody having an advantage in a head-to-head tie breaker.  Very unlikely to happen, but's it's been a crazy year in the Bogan division. 

Right now I don't see Bridgewater losing either of their last two games though Worcester could give them trouble this week.  Worcester seems to play tougher at home. 

Fitchburg though still in the running is the long shot because of the loss to Bridgewater and they have two tough games ahead of them and they need Bridgewater to lose which I don't see happening.  They might not even get by Westfield this weekend.

Maine Maritime controls everything.  They two have two tough games remaining and they sometimes play inconsistently.  They do well in the first half, build leads, and then have trouble holding onto the lead.  Their last two games have been easy ones so I suspect they have their confidence back and should do well.  Two years in a row they've been close to Coast Guard in both games only to lose.  This year I think they'll win.

vttanker
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on October 28, 2008, 02:39:51 PM
My picks for the week.

Boyd:
Plymouth over MIT, 35-14.  Plymouth makes it official and clinches the division.  In the process they de-rail DeRon and make the individual rushing title even closer.  Check the stats, top five rushers in the country are all from the NEFC.
Curry crushes Nichols, 48-14.  Not a good week to be playing Curry.
UMD over Endicott, 28-14.  If you're UMD you have to give J.T. a chance at the rushing title.  Get the yards this week cause next week is Curry.
Salve outscores WNEC, 35-28.

Bogan:  Let the fun begin.
Framingham over Mass Maritime, 28-14.  Framingham has been shut out two weeks in a row, but won't happen a third week.  If Mass Maritime wants to get their first win this is the week to do it.

Now the games that matter:
Bridgewater over Worcester, 35-21.  Worcester plays tough at home, but is still no match for Bridgewater.
Westfield beats Fitchburg, 31-28.  My upset pick of the week.  Westfield has enough defense to stop Fitchburg and end Fitchburg's playoff chances.
Maine Maritime runs over Coast Guard, 35-21.  Maine wants this too bad to lose this year to Coast Guard.  When a team wants to run the ball Coast Guard hasn't been able to stop it.  Maine does this better than anyone.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 28, 2008, 08:06:01 PM
    Going back over the pages of past , I could have quoted many .
This year has been a good year for the NEFC . Like someone stated in
previous posts the NEFC has the leading rushers in the nation . I'm not sure how many E 8 , LL , MAC have , but we have the most . Put that in your pipe and smoke BOIII .

  How crazy has this been this year , Framingham , MIT and Salve turning
their programs around . PSU knocking the king off his raft . Maine being the leaders of the rush . It really surprises me EC hasn't done well this year, they're a good football team along with WNEC .

Should the NEFC split up , form 2 more divisions(more teams) on each side
and keep 3 or 4 games open in their schedule to play E8 & LL teams having these teams travel if need be . Is there any kind of stipulation in order to qualify for playoffs . Does anybody understand what I'm trying to say ?

Yes I agree that NEFC is a large conference  , but making it bigger , opening up their schedules is this an option ? There are so many teams in and around New England this would be easy .

OR should the NEFC downsize an open these dates up to play E8 or LL?

OR should we just wait till the time comes and play them then .

We catch alot of crap in the other leagues because we don't schedule these guys . Should we take it or change it ?

                                         nuff said
                                just my opinion anywho
                                          NLNG       
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on October 28, 2008, 08:20:16 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 28, 2008, 08:06:01 PM
    Going back over the pages of past , I could have quoted many .
This year has been a good year for the NEFC . Like someone stated in
previous posts the NEFC has the leading rushers in the nation . I'm not sure how many E 8 , LL , MAC have , but we have the most . Put that in your pipe and smoke BOIII .

 

Could that be because the teams are of lesser strength defensively than the E8, LL and Mac?  nah that couldn't be it...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 28, 2008, 08:23:35 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 28, 2008, 08:06:01 PM
    Going back over the pages of past , I could have quoted many .
This year has been a good year for the NEFC . Like someone stated in
previous posts the NEFC has the leading rushers in the nation . I'm not sure how many E 8 , LL , MAC have , but we have the most . Put that in your pipe and smoke BOIII .

  How crazy has this been this year , Framingham , MIT and Salve turning
their programs around . PSU knocking the king off his raft . Maine being the leaders of the rush . It really surprises me EC hasn't done well this year, they're a good football team along with WNEC .

Should the NEFC split up , form 2 more divisions(more teams) on each side
and keep 3 or 4 games open in their schedule to play E8 & LL teams having these teams travel if need be . Is there any kind of stipulation in order to qualify for playoffs . Does anybody understand what I'm trying to say ?

Yes I agree that NEFC is a large conference  , but making it bigger , opening up their schedules is this an option ? There are so many teams in and around New England this would be easy .

OR should the NEFC downsize an open these dates up to play E8 or LL?

OR should we just wait till the time comes and play them then .

We catch alot of crap in the other leagues because we don't schedule these guys . Should we take it or change it ?

                                         nuff said
                                just my opinion anywho
                                          NLNG       

No.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on October 28, 2008, 08:32:02 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 28, 2008, 08:23:35 PM


No.

You
  don't understand ,
  Jonny ,

I pick
         Plymouth
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MC3 on October 29, 2008, 01:38:44 AM
Maine runs over Coast Guard - 42-14
Plymouth doubles up MIT - 42-21
Bridgewater lays the pipe on Worcester - 49-21
Curry smokes Nichols - 35-7
Salve Regina dicks on WNEC - 35-10
Westfield sneaks by Fitchburg - 21-14
Framingham open hand slaps Mass - 56-0
Mass-Dartmouth crushes Endicott - 42-10 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 29, 2008, 04:58:13 AM
Quote from: pg04 on October 28, 2008, 08:20:16 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 28, 2008, 08:06:01 PM
    Going back over the pages of past , I could have quoted many .
This year has been a good year for the NEFC . Like someone stated in
previous posts the NEFC has the leading rushers in the nation . I'm not sure how many E 8 , LL , MAC have , but we have the most . Put that in your pipe and smoke BOIII .

 

Could that be because the teams are of more strength defensively than the E8, LL and Mac?  yah that could be it...

                                     nuff said
                                      NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Falconalum on October 29, 2008, 01:44:48 PM
Picks of the week:
Maine 38- CG 24
Plymouth 42- MIT-21
Worcester 24- Bridgewater 21
Curry 50- Nichols 10
WNEC 20- Salve 19
Framingham 26- MM 17
Dartmouth 44- Endicott 3
Fitchburg 40- Westfield 38

My Pick is Bridgewater loses in an upset to Worcester State and Fitchburg goes into the final week controlling their own destiny.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 29, 2008, 04:45:18 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 28, 2008, 08:06:01 PM
    Going back over the pages of past , I could have quoted many .
This year has been a good year for the NEFC . Like someone stated in
previous posts the NEFC has the leading rushers in the nation . I'm not sure how many E 8 , LL , MAC have , but we have the most . Put that in your pipe and smoke BOIII .

  How crazy has this been this year , Framingham , MIT and Salve turning
their programs around . PSU knocking the king off his raft . Maine being the leaders of the rush . It really surprises me EC hasn't done well this year, they're a good football team along with WNEC .

Should the NEFC split up , form 2 more divisions(more teams) on each side
and keep 3 or 4 games open in their schedule to play E8 & LL teams having these teams travel if need be . Is there any kind of stipulation in order to qualify for playoffs . Does anybody understand what I'm trying to say ?

Yes I agree that NEFC is a large conference  , but making it bigger , opening up their schedules is this an option ? There are so many teams in and around New England this would be easy .

OR should the NEFC downsize an open these dates up to play E8 or LL?

OR should we just wait till the time comes and play them then .

We catch alot of crap in the other leagues because we don't schedule these guys . Should we take it or change it ?

                                         nuff said
                                just my opinion anywho
                                          NLNG       

I agree that the NEFC is too big but I think that if they split it into two conferences they might lose their AQ for the playoffs.  I am not sure that splitting it into smaller conferences would result in scheduling LL or E8 teams.  There are open weekends in the NEFC schedules now and  not very many teams play E8 or LL so why would they do it if there were two confernenes.  My guess if they would continue to play the same teams they play and beat now. 

That is great that the NEFC has the top rushers in the nation, but I do have to agree that may be more of an indication of lack of rushing defenses and more running plays then other conferences.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 29, 2008, 08:56:50 PM
                                   
[/quote]

I agree that the NEFC is too big but I think that if they split it into two conferences they might lose their AQ for the playoffs.  I am not sure that splitting it into smaller conferences would result in scheduling LL or E8 teams.  There are open weekends in the NEFC schedules now and  not very many teams play E8 or LL so why would they do it if there were two confernenes.  My guess if they would continue to play the same teams they play and beat now. 

That is great that the NEFC has the top rushers in the nation, but I do have to agree that may be more of an indication of lack of rushing defenses and more running plays then other conferences.
[/quote]

Thats why I was asking that question . I wasn't sure how it would effect
the AQ .
I'm kind of confused by your comment of running the ball though . If a team can run the ball with good sucess and controll the clock , to me thats old time football and clock management . Does the NFL have any running teams ? Sorry I could be missing your point totally.

Looking at E8 their run defense is sub par compared to NEFC .

Hows that pipe doing now ? Boiii.
                                  nuff said
                                    NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 29, 2008, 09:00:28 PM
Quote from: pg04 on October 28, 2008, 08:32:02 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 28, 2008, 08:23:35 PM


No.

You
  don't understand ,
  Jonny ,

I pick
         Plymouth
PG13 I already figured you didn't , it's ok though
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on October 29, 2008, 09:15:55 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 28, 2008, 08:06:01 PM
    Going back over the pages of past , I could have quoted many .
This year has been a good year for the NEFC . Like someone stated in
previous posts the NEFC has the leading rushers in the nation . I'm not sure how many E 8 , LL , MAC have , but we have the most . Put that in your pipe and smoke BOIII .

  How crazy has this been this year , Framingham , MIT and Salve turning
their programs around . PSU knocking the king off his raft . Maine being the leaders of the rush . It really surprises me EC hasn't done well this year, they're a good football team along with WNEC .

Should the NEFC split up , form 2 more divisions(more teams) on each side
and keep 3 or 4 games open in their schedule to play E8 & LL teams having these teams travel if need be . Is there any kind of stipulation in order to qualify for playoffs . Does anybody understand what I'm trying to say ?

Yes I agree that NEFC is a large conference  , but making it bigger , opening up their schedules is this an option ? There are so many teams in and around New England this would be easy .

OR should the NEFC downsize an open these dates up to play E8 or LL?

OR should we just wait till the time comes and play them then .

We catch alot of crap in the other leagues because we don't schedule these guys . Should we take it or change it ?

                                         nuff said
                                just my opinion anywho
                                          NLNG      


   why the hell do you have
spaces in between your puncuation ? boieee ?
I mean , isn't that a little annoying
to type ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 29, 2008, 09:21:09 PM
Quote from: 'gro on October 29, 2008, 09:15:55 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 28, 2008, 08:06:01 PM
    Going back over the pages of past , I could have quoted many .
This year has been a good year for the NEFC . Like someone stated in
previous posts the NEFC has the leading rushers in the nation . I'm not sure how many E 8 , LL , MAC have , but we have the most . Put that in your pipe and smoke BOIII .

  How crazy has this been this year , Framingham , MIT and Salve turning
their programs around . PSU knocking the king off his raft . Maine being the leaders of the rush . It really surprises me EC hasn't done well this year, they're a good football team along with WNEC .

Should the NEFC split up , form 2 more divisions(more teams) on each side
and keep 3 or 4 games open in their schedule to play E8 & LL teams having these teams travel if need be . Is there any kind of stipulation in order to qualify for playoffs . Does anybody understand what I'm trying to say ?

Yes I agree that NEFC is a large conference  , but making it bigger , opening up their schedules is this an option ? There are so many teams in and around New England this would be easy .

OR should the NEFC downsize an open these dates up to play E8 or LL?

OR should we just wait till the time comes and play them then .

We catch alot of crap in the other leagues because we don't schedule these guys . Should we take it or change it ?

                                         nuff said
                                just my opinion anywho
                                          NLNG      


   why the hell do you have
spaces in between your puncuation ? boieee ?
I mean , isn't that a little annoying
to type ?

Maybe I'm just learning how to spell punctuation     , BOIII
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 29, 2008, 09:25:17 PM
 I now understand how you got your screen name , You meant to spell
Grow
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on October 29, 2008, 09:34:31 PM
Sorry hoss, it's 'gro, as in enginegro. It's a play on words... but I've already said too much.  enjoy your evening chief.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on October 29, 2008, 10:27:47 PM
Quote from: 'gro on October 29, 2008, 09:34:31 PM
Sorry hoss, it's 'gro, as in enginegro. It's a play on words... but I've already said too much.  enjoy your evening chief.


I need to learn this damn lesson!  !!!!     !!!!!

                                       
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on October 29, 2008, 10:44:19 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 29, 2008, 09:00:28 PM
Quote from: pg04 on October 28, 2008, 08:32:02 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 28, 2008, 08:23:35 PM


No.

You
  don't understand ,
  Jonny ,

I pick
         Plymouth
PG13 I already figured you didn't , it's ok though

Children need parental supervision to read my posts. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 29, 2008, 11:05:20 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 29, 2008, 09:25:17 PM
I now understand how you got your screen name , You meant to spell
Grow

Let's spell this one out...

NEFC.........Not Even F'ing Comparable(to the rest of the New England High School Football Teams)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 30, 2008, 05:33:15 AM
 Now LewDogg  that wasn't very nice , I can see you can spell too .
You left out some letters in your last post .

Lets talk football instead of bickering like old ladies.sometimes we can get out of control. I'll stop with my puctuation.

Lets all be happy we all enjoy the game of football,reguardless which
conference we root for. this is DIII football not the NFL. It's for the love of game, ok, no more trashing, think about it .
                                        nuff said
                                         NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: boobyhasgameyo on October 30, 2008, 06:48:53 AM
Yeah I'm just going to go out on a limb and say if your rushing teams played against the E8 teams they would not fare as well.  I know that is stretching it, but I feel like being risky...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 30, 2008, 08:20:58 AM
NLNG, what I meant was that the top rushers may be in the NEFC because the NEFC lacks in rush defense so it is earlier to run the ball and get yardage.  Just look at the NFL, everyone tries to run against the Colts because they have a poor run defense.  Also, as much as I like the NEFC, they could not rack up the rushing numbers playing against the E8 or LL teams.  The NEFC is improving, but still has a long way to go to get up there with the E8 and LL.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on October 30, 2008, 08:28:10 AM
Not
Enough
Full Time
Coaches
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 30, 2008, 08:49:53 AM
Quote from: 'gro on October 30, 2008, 08:28:10 AM
Not
Enough
Full Time
Coaches


I'm trying to figure out what Gro had to edit....

Not
Enough
Full Time
Candyasses


no.....

Not
Enough
Fantastically dressed
Coaches


no.....

Not
Enough
Full Time
Coaches


Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 30, 2008, 10:10:29 AM
I think the NEFC schools' football problems, in general, come from the schools' administration.

Not
Enough
Football
Commitment

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 30, 2008, 10:48:10 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 30, 2008, 10:10:29 AM
I think the NEFC schools' football problems, in general, come from the schools' administration.

Not
Enough
Football
Commitment



Massachusetts currently has a question on next tuesday's ballot to eliminate the state income tax.  If it passes (which I don't think it will), there is a 99% chance that every single d3 Massachusetts State School Football program will be eliminated.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 30, 2008, 11:06:04 AM
Don't they really need to look at combining/eliminating some of the campuses?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 30, 2008, 11:47:17 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 30, 2008, 11:06:04 AM
Don't they really need to look at combining/eliminating some of the campuses?

The theory behind not combining/eliminating campuses (with out cutting services ie: football) is the affordability and access for lower income families are who end up getting hurt the most.  closing/combining campuses results in less students attending  making higher fees and tuition for everyone, combined with the lost tution/fees from the closed school.

Im sure someone who knows what they are doing can make this happen, but this is the arguement that is used.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 30, 2008, 12:24:34 PM
Gotcha.

I've been asking that question for years and this is the first answer other than "politics" that I've heard. :)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on October 30, 2008, 01:28:33 PM
Folks if we're going to talk stats lets get it right without comparing one conference to another, because it's all relative.  Why does the NEFC have the top runners.  Because the run is working big time this year and there are a lot of capable runners getting a lot of touches.  Not rocket science. 

If I use the same logic about passing I could argue that the E8 has the worst pass defenses around.  Why?  Because Hartwick is the #1 passing team in D3.  And against Ithaca, Alfred, and St John Fisher they averaged 366 yds/game.  And they still have Utica. Norwich, and Springfield to play.  Nobody is going to catch them with those games left on their schedule.  Now Hartwick has the #212 defense.  Who does that remind you of - Fitchburg (#10-offense, #231-defense)?  Score a lot of points - give up just as many.

If you look at Salisbury - #1 rushing team in D3, an obscene 417 yds/game.  Yet they don't have a single runner in the top ten.  Their best is 54th, but they have three in the top 100.  They spread the ball around.  They are also #234 in passing (next to last), yet they are 7-1.  If the run works, why not run.

At the end of the season Jack Phelan of Hartwick is going to end up the #1 receiver (yds/game).  He is so far ahead of everybody else it's unlikely he'll get caught.  Likewise, a runner for the NEFC has a good chance to be the top rusher in D3.  In the end the Mount Unions of the world can rightly say - "If you played us...."  But we don't and that's that.

It's all relative.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on October 30, 2008, 05:25:02 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 30, 2008, 10:48:10 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 30, 2008, 10:10:29 AM
I think the NEFC schools' football problems, in general, come from the schools' administration.

Not
Enough
Football
Commitment



Massachusetts currently has a question on next tuesday's ballot to eliminate the state income tax.  If it passes (which I don't think it will), there is a 99% chance that every single d3 Massachusetts State School Football program will be eliminated.


It's all about drugs (question #2), gamblin' (question #3) and taxin' my crib (question #1).....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 30, 2008, 06:23:05 PM
Quote from: 'gro on October 30, 2008, 08:28:10 AM
Not
Enough
Full Time
Coaches


Pat, oh Pat I didn't expect that out of you .

I have to agree with 'gro, I believe the commitment is there with these coaches, these state schools have . It's the money factor of not having enough to pay them full time. Some of these coaches hardly see their family and friends till December since August. They are committed if you ask me .
  Besides that Pat you stood me up at the Curry game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 30, 2008, 06:26:47 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 30, 2008, 10:10:29 AM
I think the NEFC schools' football problems, in general, come from the schools' administration.

Not
Enough
Football
Commitment


Sorry Pat I didn't read your whole post, my bad
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 30, 2008, 08:44:24 PM
 I'll have my picks in on Friday night.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 31, 2008, 08:07:01 AM
Here are my picks for the week:

USCGA 10 MEM 24 - I just don't think this is the Coasties year

PSU 35 MIT 21 - I think it will be a good game, but PSU is on a roll and MIT still has a ways to go

BSC 21 Worcester St. 14

Nichols 0 Curry 45 - Curry is looking for blood and they are playing the worst team in the division.  To quote NLNG: "Nuff said".

Salve 21  WNEC 24 - I give it to WNEC becasue of the homefield advantage

Westfield 10 Fitchburg 28

Framingham 14 MAM 7 - not much of a game here

UMD 30  EC 21 - EC just doesn't have "game" this year and UMD is about where they are every year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 01, 2008, 08:33:25 AM
                                     

                                    game day
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 01, 2008, 08:54:53 AM

                         ok here are my picks
 
         UMD over  EC
     Salve   over  WNEC
     Curry   over  Nichols
      PSU    over   MIT
       CGA   over   MEM  NOT!
     BSC     over   Worcester
   Fram     over   MaM
     Fitch     over  West
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 01, 2008, 09:02:57 AM
  Where is everyones picks ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 01, 2008, 04:44:06 PM
               PSU 27    MIT 14

Another 200+ game for Mack, he's going to pass Joe Dudek for single season record, amazing.

Hats off to DeRon, he's quite a running back fastest little feet I've ever seen.

                                  "nuff said"
                                       NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: DijBurg on November 01, 2008, 07:30:19 PM
what happened to MME's tyler angell.  I saw in the boxscore that he didnt play in the 4th quarter.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 02, 2008, 07:48:52 AM
  Congratulations PSU, division champs, keep it going !
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 02, 2008, 12:42:17 PM
Congrats to you NLNG you are now a starter.  I went 6-s this week in my picks.  Only one week left of regular NEFC Season, let's keep the postings going. 

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on November 02, 2008, 05:44:19 PM
Quote from: DijBurg on November 01, 2008, 07:30:19 PM
what happened to MME's tyler angell.  I saw in the boxscore that he didnt play in the 4th quarter.

I wasn't at the game, but my wife was and she says that on his last scoring (TD) run he came up lame.  Possible foot injury.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 02, 2008, 07:21:04 PM
Quote from: 63Center on November 02, 2008, 12:42:17 PM
Congrats to you NLNG you are now a starter.  I went 6-s this week in my picks.  Only one week left of regular NEFC Season, let's keep the postings going. 


63 good job, I can't believe I beat you to 200, heres some +k for you
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on November 03, 2008, 01:22:05 PM
Congrats to PSU once again.

I am happy to see another face representing the Boyd in the NEFC championship game. It looks like PSU-Curry will be a great rivalry for many years to come
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: DieselWR84 on November 03, 2008, 01:31:32 PM
What is everyones picks on the division champs in the Bogan Division?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 03, 2008, 05:56:45 PM
 Looks like Maine or Bridgewater, but didn't Maine beat Bridgewater head to head early on ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 03, 2008, 08:10:19 PM
  nlng!!
you are correct. bridgewater needs to beat mass maritme and hopefully maine maritime loses to fitchburg.

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 04, 2008, 05:25:48 AM
 CB, congrats to DK
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on November 04, 2008, 08:36:54 AM
Men it has been a while I have been really tied up. I think Plymouth is going to be making a trip to Maine next weekend and hopefully they'll take the Championship because they will have a better chance of winning in the NCAAs I think.

Here are my picks:

Maine over Fitchburg 28-24
Westfield over WSC
Curry shuts down UMD 38-14
BSC easily over Mass Maritime 35-3
MIT rolls past Endicott 32-21
CGA beats Framingham
Plymouth over Slave..(Potential to be close) 27-24
Nichols gets a win over WNEC..

Congrats to all the Seniors whose season is over this weekend I tip my hat to you fellas.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on November 04, 2008, 08:40:29 AM
Does anyone think it is possible at all that we will get the AQ with plymouth/MaineorBSC and a pool C bid with Curry or no? What is everyone thoughts...Pat what is your take?

Cortland St still has Ithaca so one of them have to lose...WPI is out after losing this past weekend and Husson is garbage and shouldnt even be seen in the top 10 in the East personally. I think thy arein there because of playing Merrimack and AIC but they have played other  teams that half the NEFC teams could beat this year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: DieselWR84 on November 04, 2008, 11:52:47 AM
It looks like MEM controls their own fate and the fate of bridgewater, its going to be a real interesting weekend of games.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan81 on November 04, 2008, 12:19:45 PM
your absolutely right diesel wr 84. It seems that no one is really taking anyone seriously except psu. Well i think the championship should be interesting with what i predict a nice cold one in maine.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 04, 2008, 01:51:50 PM
Remember a NO vote on Question #1 is a YES vote for d3football in Massachusetts.  Make sure you spread the last word on that one.

The NEFC will not get a pool C because there are not enough (or none I should say) quailty OOC wins this year.

Bridgewater might have had a shot if they had beaten Rowan in that first game and ended with the one loss but thats about it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on November 04, 2008, 02:56:42 PM
My picks for the week.  Went 8-0 last week, but taking some chances this week.

Boyd:
UMD over Curry, 24-21.  Upset of the week.
MIT rolls Endicott, 42-14.
PSU over Salve, 28-17.  No upset here as PSU closes out a perfect Boyd schedule.
Nichols outlasts WNEC, 28-21.  Nichols finally wins one.

Bogan:
Westfield over Worcester, 35-21.
Coast Guard whomps Framingham, 35-14.
Bridgewater crushes Mass Maritime, 42-10.  Keeps post season hopes alive.

The game of the week.  Maine out offenses Fitchburg, 42-35.

Unless the weather becomes a factor this will be a run and gun game.  Number 2 running team in the country against the almost worst running defense in the country.  The only way Maine passes the ball in this game is a 3rd and 20.  Maine's defense is OK, but expect that they'll be chasing Fitchburg running backs and receivers all over the playing field.  Ultimately, Maine will make enough defensive stops to win in the end and take the Bogan Division title.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on November 04, 2008, 03:20:05 PM
I think only Curry will have a chance at a Pool C bid.  They will need to blow out UMD this weekend to make a statement.  Anybody else would have 2 or more losses and there will be plenty of other one loss teams out there to pick from.

That said, the ECAC playoff game could be a good one.  Last year it was Plymouth and Bridgewater.  Possible preview for this year's NEFC Championship Game though Maine has the inside track to that right now.  Anyway Curry should be the odds on favorite to be one of the teams for the ECAC game.  Opponent could be somebody outside the NEFC which would be good for the NEFC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MC3 on November 04, 2008, 03:42:40 PM
Maine runs over Fitchburg - 42-21
Worcester sneaks by Westfield - 24-21
Mass-Dartmouth out scores Curry - 49-42
Bridgewater slaps Mass - 42-14
MIT kills Endicott - 49-10
Framingham in a good one over Coast Guard - 35-31
Plymouth over Salve - 28-21
Nichols over WNEC - 21-14
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 04, 2008, 05:18:28 PM
hey nlng!!
thanx for the congrats for dk. coach castonia still bust'em on him during game film. ;D
who do you think would be a good match up for plymouth. maine or bridgewater?
i agree with footballfan 81. plymouth takes on each opponent seriously and continues to improve each week.

CB23

ps congrats to nlng on becoming a starter   8)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mudball on November 05, 2008, 04:01:16 PM
...congrats guys!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 06, 2008, 11:55:05 AM
Picks for the week:

MA Maritime 7 BSC 42 (no contest)

Curry 35 UMD 21 - I can't see Curry losing another one this season and I don't think UMD is good enough to upset them.

Fitchburg 14 MME 21 - MME wins the Bogan and takes on PSU.

Worcester State 10 Westfield 35

EC 18  MIT 30 - EC ends up with its worst record since starting varsity football.

SRU 10 PSU 42 - PSU ends up undefeated in the NEFC and will win the championship and represent NEFC in NCAA

Framingham 7 CGA 21 - Neither team showed much this season.

WNEC 28 Nichols 14 - I just don't think Nichols can hang with WNEC.



Title: Re: Thanks for the ride
Post by: Findtheball on November 06, 2008, 06:44:00 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 16, 2007, 06:26:01 PM



  Seniors, GOOD LUCK in everything you do , football is a good life lesson in working together and being one , thanks for the ride .

I just want NEFC to get on the map again , so GO PSU !!!!!!!

                           

                            " NO LINE NO GLORY"               
Not really sure what I'm going to do  next season, I've been following the boy around for 14 seasons ,now it's coming to an end . Hopefully he gets a job somewhere and builds his own program as Coach "C" did . Until then I just might have to adopt the Brooks brothers. They have 2 more years .

                     I'll have my picks in tommorrow
                                 nuff said
                                     NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 06, 2008, 07:39:23 PM
hey nlng!!
if maine maritime claims bogan division, any chance of a charter bus (leaving from plymouth)  for parents and other fans for the 5 1/2 hr ride to castine maine. ???

CB23

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 06, 2008, 08:20:40 PM
 Where are you driving from ? It's 3 1/2 for me . Maybe they'll play in Portland, they did that with MIT earlier in the season
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 06, 2008, 08:26:47 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 21, 2008, 10:23:05 AM
wow the pages are really starting to move... NLNG thanks for recognizing my picking skills this week... my only loss was the westfield vs framingham game... framingham looked like they mailed it in... but lets get back to business and talk some nefc football...

two huge games this week in my mind ... lets first start with the boyd division in PSU vs Curry... i think PSU will rely on the legs of Mack and Demarco and beat Curry ending their dominance of the NEFC for one year at least... this is the most vulnerable Curry team of the last 5 years and i think PSU has the firepower and more importantly the defense to stop Curry and come out on top...

im also rooting for Plymouth becuase as Pat said earlier we get an automatic bid and have a outside chance at a at large bid.. if Plymouth win the championship they are an automatic bid... if Curry loses but wins out they have a better chance then Plymouth at getting that at large bid because of thier past sucesss especially winning a playoff game last year and Plymouth somehow losting to Mount Ida... with the rest of the east down this year it is not impossible for the NEFC to get 2 bid and win another playoff game...

Bridgewater vs Westfield is huge game in the Bogan... i think whoever wins this game is going to take the Bogan... Westfield step up huge this week and took out Framingham in a must win for both teams... but i think Bridgewater is hungy and will win this game... another big game is Maine vs Framingham because Maine needs to keep pace whichever teams wins and i think Maine will win becuase they have something to play for and Framingham does not...
Boxer we lose 63 for a while then we lose you , will guys just stay with me for while longer . We are all buds don't you know . I gave all you guys some +K if you didn't notice

Sorry Boxer I went back to your lastest post and this is what I found
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 06, 2008, 09:49:48 PM
hey nlng!!
we guyzzzz are from londonderry nh   ;D
I guess i'll take the charter bus question as a no  :(

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 07, 2008, 05:37:36 AM
 CB are you telling me your stepping up and organizing this road trip with a chartered bus?NICE!!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 07, 2008, 10:42:22 AM
NLNG, I am hanging in here for you.

I can't see the NEFC getting a second team into the NCAA.  There are a lot of other teams that are more deserving, even if they have 2 losses, due to plaing a more competitve schedule.  If teams like Curry or BSC want to make it into the NCAA without winning the NEFC they are going to have to play and beat a couple of good competive teams and that won't happen until there is scheduling relief from the NEFC that will allow them to play more games outside of the NEFC.  Maybe one answer would be to only require the NEFC teams to play all of the teams within their division (Boyd and Bogan), but no cross-over games.  That allows them to  play anyone else for the rest of the games. The two teams with the best divisional records play for the NEFC championship and be the AQ for the NEFC.  Just a thought.

By the way is CB23 also supplying the refreshments on the charter bus trip?


Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on November 07, 2008, 12:01:14 PM
FYI about Maine Maritime seating arrangements.  If Maine beats Fitchburg, they have to do that first: there are minimal bleachers and only on the visitor side of the field.  A wind storm last year blew trees, very large trees, onto the bleachers and destroyed most of them.  New bleachers won't be in place until this spring.  So if the game is at Maine Maritime you might want to bring a lawn chair.  Or plan on standing for the entire game.  I don't know what the rules are for a championship game, but Maine doesn't charge any admission fee for its games.

With no bleachers that might make a case for a game at Portland.  My advise there is the parking isn't to great.  Also the city runs that stadium and they have some strange rules about entering and leaving the stadium and what you can have in the stands for refreshments.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 07, 2008, 12:54:43 PM
Hey NLNG where are your picks?

Also, you are going to follow the Brooks Brothers next year?  What you buying a new suit or something?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 07, 2008, 03:50:04 PM
okay...... time out everyone!!!!!  :o   i've got my money on bridgewater to win the division!!!!!!!!!!

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 07, 2008, 05:32:56 PM
Quote from: 63Center on November 07, 2008, 12:54:43 PM
Hey NLNG where are your picks?

Also, you are going to follow the Brooks Brothers next year?  What you buying a new suit or something?

now thats not a bad idea, I need a new suit . I believe CB23 is buying all the beverages, I heard him say he was in charge. I think PSU is going to get better & better from here on out . I agree wiyh you 63 that all of the NEFC needs to play outside the box . We really don't need to play a cross over game . Lets play someone else . The only problem is the other team will have to travel to play,with budgets getting tighter and tighter at the state schools. Looking over the simulation posts it shows PSU 07 is a better team than the PSU 08 I don't get it. I put PSU 07 vs PSU 08 up against each other 100 times and PSU 07 came out on top 95% of the time . I even swapped it up with different scenarios home & away it still came up PSU 07 strange huh . ok I'll have my picks in later tonight . I have to film a high school game.
                                             NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MC3 on November 07, 2008, 11:27:04 PM
63Center, I disagree with you 100% when you said framingham st hasn't showed much this year.  They have won 3 games the last 4 years and this year they have won 4 games with the chance to go 500 tomorrow for the first time since the 80's.  I don't understand how you can say they didn't show much this year with a 4-5 record and a couple turnovers away from being 6-3 right now with two 7 point L's to Bridgewater and Fitchburg.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 08, 2008, 08:38:02 AM
Quote from: 63Center on November 06, 2008, 11:55:05 AM
Picks for the week:

MA Maritime 7 BSC 42 (no contest)

Curry 35 UMD 21 - I can't see Curry losing another one this season and I don't think UMD is good enough to upset them.

Fitchburg 14 MME 21 - MME wins the Bogan and takes on PSU.

Worcester State 10 Westfield 35

EC 18  MIT 30 - EC ends up with its worst record since starting varsity football.

SRU 10 PSU 42 - PSU ends up undefeated in the NEFC and will win the championship and represent NEFC in NCAA

Framingham 7 CGA 21 - Neither team showed much this season.

WNEC 28 Nichols 14 - I just don't think Nichols can hang with WNEC.





                               GAME DAY
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 08, 2008, 08:47:31 AM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 08, 2008, 08:38:02 AM
Quote from: 63Center on November 06, 2008, 11:55:05 AM
Picks for the week:

MA Maritime 7 BSC 42 (no contest)

Curry 35 UMD 21 - I can't see Curry losing another one this season and I don't think UMD is good enough to upset them.

Fitchburg 14 MME 21 - MME wins the Bogan and takes on PSU.

Worcester State 10 Westfield 35

EC 18  MIT 30 - EC ends up with its worst record since starting varsity football.

SRU 10 PSU 42 - PSU ends up undefeated in the NEFC and will win the championship and represent NEFC in NCAA

Framingham 7 CGA 21 - Neither team showed much this season.

WNEC 28 Nichols 14 - I just don't think Nichols can hang with WNEC.





                               GAME DAY
 
                             ok heres my picks

   BSC over MA Maritime

   Curry over UMD

   Fitchburg upsets MME

  West over WO -wo

  EC over MIT

  PSU over Salve ( let the seniors play )

  Framingham over CGA

  Nichols over WNEC
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 09, 2008, 10:35:14 AM
MC3, Congrats to Framingham State for finishing 500 for the season.  They showed toughness by winning some close one this season to improve over the last few seasons and as you stated were close to having a winning record.

Well, looks like EC surprised a lot of folks and kept themselves from having their worst record since starting varsity football.

MME stated their case clearly for the chamspionship game by beating Fitchburg 66-32. 

Time for the NEFC championship game.  Bring it on.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MC3 on November 09, 2008, 10:49:04 AM
Framingham vs Coast Guard game yesterday if you can get your hands on the game film it was one of the best games I've seen all year
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 09, 2008, 08:27:39 PM
sorry boys i havent been around lately... but from what I have learned it will be MME vs Plymouth in the championship... it should be a quick game since both teams run the ball... in the end i like Plymouth winning it... also a big congrats go out to framingham st for finishing 500. for the first time since i can remember... Framingham is probaly the most improved team this year.. also congrats to other programs making a rise in Salve and in MIT... these teams getting better will do nothing but make the leauge stronger...

next year we need curry and plymouth to at least play a tough out of conference game... those two teams give us the best chance to get two teams into the playoffs from the NEFC... if they lose its no big deal since both teams we have only recieved one bid since we got the AQ... its a def. low risk high reward type of game
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 10, 2008, 05:50:48 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 09, 2008, 08:27:39 PM
sorry boys i havent been around lately... but from what I have learned it will be MME vs Plymouth in the championship... it should be a quick game since both teams run the ball... in the end i like Plymouth winning it... also a big congrats go out to framingham st for finishing 500. for the first time since i can remember... Framingham is probaly the most improved team this year.. also congrats to other programs making a rise in Salve and in MIT... these teams getting better will do nothing but make the leauge stronger...

next year we need curry and plymouth to at least play a tough out of conference game... those two teams give us the best chance to get two teams into the playoffs from the NEFC... if they lose its no big deal since both teams we have only recieved one bid since we got the AQ... its a def. low risk high reward type of game

welcome back X
I totally agree with you on your post.
looks like PSU has to travel to Castine Me. I was hoping it would be in Portland . CB23 warm up the bus,fill the coolers and let's go. It's 3 1/2 hour trip for me, more for most. I guess it's better than driving to Buffalo like Sophmore year.

Hats off to Plymouth this year, great job. That Mt Ida game is still a thorn though, sure would like to play that one again.

                                      "nuff said"
                                     get r done

                                         NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 10, 2008, 08:21:23 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 09, 2008, 08:27:39 PM

next year we need curry and plymouth to at least play a tough out of conference game... those two teams give us the best chance to get two teams into the playoffs from the NEFC... if they lose its no big deal since both teams we have only recieved one bid since we got the AQ... its a def. low risk high reward type of game

I agree, it is low risk (except to the team's and NEFC's egos) with potential big rewards.  Until the top teams (Curry, PSU, BSC, MME, Fitchburg St) start playing some out of conference games against the more elite teams and conferences, the NEFC will remain as "an also ran" league.

Let's see those championship picks guys.  I am picking PSU right now and will have my score predictions later in the week.  Also how about some predictions for which NEFC teams make the ECAC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 10, 2008, 08:30:44 AM
According to Mapquest, its a 4 hour, 47 minute drive from Boston to Castine, ME.  Wow.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on November 10, 2008, 09:23:17 AM
I expect it will be a great game for the NEFC Championship.  I go to the Maine games and Maine simply dismantled Fitchburg.  I also hadn't seen the team this fired up for a game.  Fitchburg didn't stand a chance.

My colors are Maine Maritime so I'm picking them.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on November 10, 2008, 12:36:58 PM
I can see this game going either way. I will have to pick PSU over Maine though. Can't believe the end is almost here fellas. The pages will hopefully stay moving during the offseason this year instead of on epost every 3 weeks. Also I think the NEFC has a 50/50 chance of gettign two teams in the NEFC the only reason they wouldnt is because of the OOC shcedule is weak and I agree that should be adressed by the schools
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 10, 2008, 05:37:15 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 10, 2008, 08:30:44 AM
According to Mapquest, its a 4 hour, 47 minute drive from Boston to Castine, ME.  Wow.

Are you on the south side of Boston ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 10, 2008, 05:41:12 PM
 CB start the bus , load the coolers we're going to Maine," the way life should be"

Hey Cb do you have a chauffers license ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 10, 2008, 05:58:29 PM
well do we have to give some credit to Fitchburg this year for playin springfield and Bridgewater for playing Rowan and also Endicott for playing RPI... but if these teams are going to schedule these teams they need to start winning them to give the conference some respect... i say are top teams should play some bottom feeders of the other conferences and get some wins...

by the way i think PSU will beat Maine... but i dont think there is a chance in hell Curry will get the at large pool C bid...

i also hope Curry does not play Bridgewater or the loser of the NEFC game in the ECAC... it would be much better for all if Curry plays a Union or a Hobart and Maine or Bridgewater plays an Hartwick or Alfred...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 10, 2008, 06:03:56 PM
If they do, it's the NEFC's fault for complaining to the ECAC a few years back about having to play New York teams.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 10, 2008, 06:04:49 PM
 X your the man !
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 10, 2008, 06:12:09 PM
          I think if E8 or LL is so superior then let them come here to the dark side and kick our a$$ if they feel they have to . On the other board their bashing Curry saying they couldn't even hold their jock strap , if so than bring it !
                                             " nuff said"
                                         
                                                  NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 10, 2008, 07:15:17 PM
I don't think it matters where the game is,.... The Moon, Saturn, New Jersey... The Superior East Teams would crush the NEFC champions.  We see it time and time again.  It's fact. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 10, 2008, 07:16:34 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 10, 2008, 06:12:09 PM
          I think if E8 or LL is so superior then let them come here to the dark side and kick our a$$ if they feel they have to . On the other board their bashing Curry saying they couldn't even hold their jock strap , if so than bring it !
                                             " nuff said"
                                         
                                                  NLNG

I wouldn't say "bashing" Curry just debating about Curry's chances in the LL or E8 year in and year out. I don't think they would be very good. Actually a few on LLPP board are saying Curry would give U a great game and even be a favorite. Get off your horse glory. This is what annoys people about the NEFC is people like you being unrealistic. Curry and other NEFC teams have some great athletes and players but they simply are not on the level that the LL players are on a consistent basis. Deal with it. If you want some respect shut your mouth and tell your teams to go out and play someone, anyone, and win on a consistent basis. I felt great about Curry's win last year vs Wick. Yet does that mean the NEFC is on the level of the E8 overall? No, **** Wick gave up freaking 70 points to Utica. I love your passion though. Don't stop rooting for your team and conference. Only when you are unrealistic you will get called on it. I get called on it everyday! ;D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 10, 2008, 07:30:02 PM
hey nlng!!!
any chance the game will be played in prtland??!?!?!?   ???

manchester nh to castine maine is 4hrs and 27 mins.    231.11 miles 1 way  :'(
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 10, 2008, 07:50:41 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 10, 2008, 06:12:09 PM
          I think if E8 or LL is so superior then let them come here to the dark side and kick our a$$ if they feel they have to . On the other board their bashing Curry saying they couldn't even hold their jock strap , if so than bring it !
                                             " nuff said"
                                         
                                                  NLNG

Recent ECAC matchups

2000
Nichols 10 @ West CT 63

2002
Curry 14 @ Hartwick 69
RPI 55 @ Worcester St 29
Westfield St 7 @ Cortland 30

2004
Fitchburg St 7 @ Springfield 55
UMass-Dartmouth 19 @ Ithaca 36

2005
Maine Maritime 20 @ Alfred 63

I doubt swapping the site would have affected any of these games.  Face it, the NEFC vs all others is bad. Curry had some decent games against (eventually semi finalist) RPI in 2003 and #1 Seed Delaware Valley in 2005 and of course the win against Hartwick last year... but the ECAC games have been lopsided as hell.

EDIT: Man, look at those scores. Those are super fantastic double monkey stomp asssssss whoopins. In fact, Ithaca should be ashamed for only winning by 17 points, but they are notorious for "mailing it in" during ECACs.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on November 10, 2008, 07:54:24 PM
Quote from: 'gro on November 10, 2008, 07:50:41 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 10, 2008, 06:12:09 PM
          I think if E8 or LL is so superior then let them come here to the dark side and kick our a$$ if they feel they have to . On the other board their bashing Curry saying they couldn't even hold their jock strap , if so than bring it !
                                             " nuff said"
                                         
                                                  NLNG

Recent ECAC matchups

2000
Nichols 10 @ West CT 63

2002
Curry 14 @ Hartwick 69
RPI 55 @ Worcester St 29
Westfield St 7 @ Cortland 30

2004
Fitchburg St 7 @ Springfield 55
UMass-Dartmouth 19 @ Ithaca 36

2005
Maine Maritime 20 @ Alfred 63

I doubt swapping the site would have affected any of these games.  Face it, the NEFC vs all others is bad. Curry had some decent games against (eventually semi finalist) RPI in 2003 and #1 Seed Delaware Valley in 2005 and of course the win against Hartwick last year... but the ECAC games have been lopsided as hell.


'Da Gro'Father has spoken.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 10, 2008, 09:23:11 PM
  ya so what , you got lucky a couple times.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HailMary15 on November 11, 2008, 08:37:19 AM
Not trying to say they would have beaten alfred in 2005 because their defense couldn't stop anyone that day but Maine Maritime was missing some pretty significant players due to injury in that game. They were missing 2 First team all conference players in Don Thibodeau and Joe Crowe. Don was the offensive player of the year in the NEFC that year and anyone who saw Maine play knows that the offense lived or died by him. Also missing due to injury was LB Chris Tracy who was last years NEFC defensive player of the year.

Depth is a big problem for a lot of these NEFC schools but there has been an effort to increase the strength of the OOC schedule as shown by Fitchburg vs Springfield, Bridgewater vs Rowan, and WNEC vs Hartwick.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 11, 2008, 09:20:32 AM
Quote from: 'gro on November 10, 2008, 07:50:41 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 10, 2008, 06:12:09 PM
          I think if E8 or LL is so superior then let them come here to the dark side and kick our a$$ if they feel they have to . On the other board their bashing Curry saying they couldn't even hold their jock strap , if so than bring it !
                                             " nuff said"
                                         
                                                  NLNG

Recent ECAC matchups

2000
Nichols 10 @ West CT 63

2002
Curry 14 @ Hartwick 69
RPI 55 @ Worcester St 29
Westfield St 7 @ Cortland 30

2004
Fitchburg St 7 @ Springfield 55
UMass-Dartmouth 19 @ Ithaca 36

2005
Maine Maritime 20 @ Alfred 63

I doubt swapping the site would have affected any of these games.  Face it, the NEFC vs all others is bad. Curry had some decent games against (eventually semi finalist) RPI in 2003 and #1 Seed Delaware Valley in 2005 and of course the win against Hartwick last year... but the ECAC games have been lopsided as hell.

EDIT: Man, look at those scores. Those are super fantastic double monkey stomp asssssss whoopins. In fact, Ithaca should be ashamed for only winning by 17 points, but they are notorious for "mailing it in" during ECACs.

ah yeah gro!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 11, 2008, 09:40:15 AM
 As I look at it, all that is in the rear view mirror. Lets talk about todays NEFC > They are not pushovers as years of the past. These programs are getting better and stronger . So get off your high horse and change your saddle, it seems to be sliding off a bit.

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                                                NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 11, 2008, 09:48:31 AM
Prove it.  Don't lose in the playoffs by more than 21.  May you be blessed that you don't face Mount Union in the first round...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUKaz00 on November 11, 2008, 09:51:30 AM
Quote from: HailMary15 on November 11, 2008, 08:37:19 AM
Not trying to say they would have beaten alfred in 2005 because their defense couldn't stop anyone that day but Maine Maritime was missing some pretty significant players due to injury in that game. They were missing 2 First team all conference players in Don Thibodeau and Joe Crowe. Don was the offensive player of the year in the NEFC that year and anyone who saw Maine play knows that the offense lived or died by him. Also missing due to injury was LB Chris Tracy who was last years NEFC defensive player of the year.

Depth is a big problem for a lot of these NEFC schools but there has been an effort to increase the strength of the OOC schedule as shown by Fitchburg vs Springfield, Bridgewater vs Rowan, and WNEC vs Hartwick.

Plus MME ran into an Alfred squad that day that felt genuinely slighted by the NCAA by getting passed over for Wilkes (D3football projected Alfred in, but the selection committee saw it differently).  Alfred was up 56-6 in that ECAC game with over 6 minutes left in the third quarter.  I'm not sure having 12 men on defense all game would have helped on that day...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 11, 2008, 09:56:08 AM
Quote from: pg04 on November 11, 2008, 09:48:31 AM
Prove it.  Don't lose in the playoffs by more than 21.  May you be blessed that you don't face Mount Union in the first round...

Yes , You can say that again
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on November 11, 2008, 10:05:54 AM
Quote from: pg04 on November 11, 2008, 09:48:31 AM
Prove it.  Don't lose in the playoffs by more than 21.  May you be blessed that you don't face Mount Union in the first round...

They went 1-1 in the playoffs last year for a winning percentage of .500. Better than the LL who went 0-2 for a winning percentage of .000
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 11, 2008, 10:09:41 AM
Hartwick was a joke of a playoff team.  Honestly, they were.  Meanwhile the LL had stiffer competition to contend with...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on November 11, 2008, 10:33:58 AM
Quote from: pg04 on November 11, 2008, 10:09:41 AM
Hartwick was a joke of a playoff team.  Honestly, they were.  Meanwhile the LL had stiffer competition to contend with...

Ithaca and SJF couldnt beat Hartwick
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 11, 2008, 11:28:53 AM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on November 11, 2008, 10:33:58 AM
Quote from: pg04 on November 11, 2008, 10:09:41 AM
Hartwick was a joke of a playoff team.  Honestly, they were.  Meanwhile the LL had stiffer competition to contend with...

Ithaca and SJF couldnt beat Hartwick

Some **** is unexplainable and Ithaca and SJF losing to Wick was, ****ing unexplainable. Yet honestly a team that gives up 70 to Utica, and loses to WNEC sucks! Having a possible NFL calibur QB can, on some days, gain a win by itself even though the rest of the team sucks. This was/is the case with Wick. LL played much better competition and is much more consistent as far as level of play. Our NCAA record sucks and will continue to suck but not as bad as the NEFC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on November 11, 2008, 11:51:31 AM
Hartwick is a good team but I agree they should not have won those two games last year vs SJF and Ithaca.

The NEFC's problem is that the programs (or should I say Schools) do not take the football programs as serious as the other leagues do.

I think some teams in the NEFC would be contenders in the LL and problem middle road to bottom dwellers in the E8 for a couple of years. They need to take the football more serious in the NEFC.

I think you will see alot more teams playing outside of the NEFC for their non-division game.

I think Curry will have a hard time getting in the playoff this year with a Pool C bid but they have to be looked at with a 37 game win streak and a playoffs the past 5 seasons with a win last year. I do not believe Husson should get in over them if that happens since Husson plays dog poo for a schedule besides Merrimack and AIC who they got absolutly stomped by.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 11, 2008, 01:45:22 PM
I am a big NEFC fan, but I have to admit that the NEFC does not take football seriously enough.  You can brag all you want about the top NEFC teams being able to contend against the LL or E8 teams, but where is the proof?  Curry won one game last year in the NCAA against Hartwick that should not have even been there.  Until the NEFC schools decide to play E8 and LL schools on a consistent basis we can argue forever with no proof of who is better.  Until then the NEFC needs to shut up or stand up and prove whose better.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on November 11, 2008, 02:34:04 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 11, 2008, 11:28:53 AM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on November 11, 2008, 10:33:58 AM
Quote from: pg04 on November 11, 2008, 10:09:41 AM
Hartwick was a joke of a playoff team.  Honestly, they were.  Meanwhile the LL had stiffer competition to contend with...

Ithaca and SJF couldnt beat Hartwick

Some **** is unexplainable and Ithaca and SJF losing to Wick was, ****ing unexplainable. Yet honestly a team that gives up 70 to Utica, and loses to WNEC sucks! Having a possible NFL calibur QB can, on some days, gain a win by itself even though the rest of the team sucks. This was/is the case with Wick. LL played much better competition and is much more consistent as far as level of play. Our NCAA record sucks and will continue to suck but not as bad as the NEFC.


Come on man, if they beat only 1 of them you could call it a fluke, if they beat both then they are the best of the 3 teams. They were the E8 Champs, rightfully so.....and Curry beat them. Teams have ups and downs throughout the course of the season, thats why the team with the best League record gets the crown and the AQ. Hartwick beat the traditional top dogs, stop taking that away from them.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 11, 2008, 05:55:45 PM
Keep going 63 only 12 more posts to
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 11, 2008, 06:08:31 PM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on November 11, 2008, 02:34:04 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 11, 2008, 11:28:53 AM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on November 11, 2008, 10:33:58 AM
Quote from: pg04 on November 11, 2008, 10:09:41 AM
Hartwick was a joke of a playoff team.  Honestly, they were.  Meanwhile the LL had stiffer competition to contend with...

Ithaca and SJF couldnt beat Hartwick

Some **** is unexplainable and Ithaca and SJF losing to Wick was, ****ing unexplainable. Yet honestly a team that gives up 70 to Utica, and loses to WNEC sucks! Having a possible NFL calibur QB can, on some days, gain a win by itself even though the rest of the team sucks. This was/is the case with Wick. LL played much better competition and is much more consistent as far as level of play. Our NCAA record sucks and will continue to suck but not as bad as the NEFC.


Come on man, if they beat only 1 of them you could call it a fluke, if they beat both then they are the best of the 3 teams. They were the E8 Champs, rightfully so.....and Curry beat them. Teams have ups and downs throughout the course of the season, thats why the team with the best League record gets the crown and the AQ. Hartwick beat the traditional top dogs, stop taking that away from them.

Remind me how the match up between Curry and one of the teams that Hartwick beat in the regular season went down only a week after Curry beat down Wick?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on November 11, 2008, 06:44:57 PM
Quote from: Upstate on November 11, 2008, 06:08:31 PM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on November 11, 2008, 02:34:04 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 11, 2008, 11:28:53 AM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on November 11, 2008, 10:33:58 AM
Quote from: pg04 on November 11, 2008, 10:09:41 AM
Hartwick was a joke of a playoff team.  Honestly, they were.  Meanwhile the LL had stiffer competition to contend with...

Ithaca and SJF couldnt beat Hartwick

Some **** is unexplainable and Ithaca and SJF losing to Wick was, ****ing unexplainable. Yet honestly a team that gives up 70 to Utica, and loses to WNEC sucks! Having a possible NFL calibur QB can, on some days, gain a win by itself even though the rest of the team sucks. This was/is the case with Wick. LL played much better competition and is much more consistent as far as level of play. Our NCAA record sucks and will continue to suck but not as bad as the NEFC.


Come on man, if they beat only 1 of them you could call it a fluke, if they beat both then they are the best of the 3 teams. They were the E8 Champs, rightfully so.....and Curry beat them. Teams have ups and downs throughout the course of the season, thats why the team with the best League record gets the crown and the AQ. Hartwick beat the traditional top dogs, stop taking that away from them.

Remind me how the match up between Curry and one of the teams that Hartwick beat in the regular season went down only a week after Curry beat down Wick?

Curry lost in similar fashion to the way Union did in 06.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 11, 2008, 08:15:13 PM
Quote from: 63Center on November 11, 2008, 01:45:22 PM
I am a big NEFC fan, but I have to admit that the NEFC does not take football seriously enough.  You can brag all you want about the top NEFC teams being able to contend against the LL or E8 teams, but where is the proof?  Curry won one game last year in the NCAA against Hartwick that should not have even been there.  Until the NEFC schools decide to play E8 and LL schools on a consistent basis we can argue forever with no proof of who is better.  Until then the NEFC needs to shut up or stand up and prove whose better.

Very well said! If I could give +k I would! This answers the whole debate crystal clear and easy!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dingle40 on November 11, 2008, 08:43:39 PM
NLNG- THE LEWI wont be attending the game this saturday due to a dink boss making me work. please try and keep the phone on for possible updates. does any one know if it will be on the radio or internet. by the way..heres the boards first prediction

Plymouth wins 34-21
big time celebrations in plymouth probably starting around 9 pm..i will be good and ripe waiting for the boys.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 11, 2008, 09:46:21 PM
 Big Lew sorry to hear that , big mama and I were just talking about you.
We will keep "MA BELL" on for updates . I locked your cell in so your good to go, hopefully I get service out in the ocean. Are headed back to PSU for the evening ? OH boy that could be a shirt  show . OK i'll keep you posted at half time and game end . The game should go fast with both teams running .
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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 11, 2008, 10:07:53 PM
hello all!!!!!
comfort inn in belfast is offering an off-season special.
for  $64.99 you get 2 night stay for 2. also includes breakfast each morning!
this place is approx. 35 minutes from castine.    ;D

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 12, 2008, 05:19:43 AM
  CB I thought you were warming up the bus, what happened to that idea ?
Are you going to have alot of coolers in that "COMFORT" inn. Is there going to be an extra bed in there case I have to crash from all the coffee in my cup.
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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2008, 06:51:00 AM
Quote from: dingle40 on November 11, 2008, 08:43:39 PM
NLNG- THE LEWI wont be attending the game this saturday due to a dink boss making me work. please try and keep the phone on for possible updates. does any one know if it will be on the radio or internet. by the way..heres the boards first prediction

Plymouth wins 34-21
big time celebrations in plymouth probably starting around 9 pm..i will be good and ripe waiting for the boys.

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"big time" celebrations in Plymouth...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HailMary15 on November 12, 2008, 01:11:39 PM
From the MMA website

"Maine Maritime Football Takes On Plymouth State in the NEFC Title Game on Saturday at 12 pm on Ritchie Field! The gates will open at 9am.

Adult tickets will be $5 per person while student and youth tickets will be $3 each."


Just a reminder, a storm destroyed the bleachers so there is minimal seating. Bring a lawn chair or be prepared to stand. There is also a Best Western in Bucksport (15-20 minutes from campus) but I'm not sure how much it is to stay the night.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on November 12, 2008, 03:22:16 PM
Why is Plymouth going to MMA when Plymouth is undefeated in Conf play and MMA has 1 conf loss?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 12, 2008, 03:46:15 PM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on November 12, 2008, 03:22:16 PM
Why is Plymouth going to MMA when Plymouth is undefeated in Conf play and MMA has 1 conf loss?

Its the NEFC, its not supposed to make sense....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 12, 2008, 06:02:06 PM
 Good one JU .
Is curry playing someone this wekend does anyone know?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on November 12, 2008, 06:03:48 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 12, 2008, 06:02:06 PM
Good one JU .
Is curry playing someone this wekend does anyone know?

Why would Curry be playing anyone this week??  Just curious.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 12, 2008, 06:16:33 PM
 Last year PSU played Bridgewater St for a bowl
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 12, 2008, 06:19:24 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 12, 2008, 06:16:33 PM
Last year PSU played Bridgewater St for a bowl

Yeah, THE NEXT WEEK FOR AN ECAC GAME!

First you need to crown a champion.  Oh, but wait, Curry withdrew its ECAC Bowl declaration this week.  So hold the Curry for 2008.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 12, 2008, 06:23:56 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 12, 2008, 06:19:24 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 12, 2008, 06:16:33 PM
Last year PSU played Bridgewater St for a bowl

Yeah, THE NEXT WEEK FOR AN ECAC GAME!

First you need to crown a champion.  Oh, but wait, Curry withdrew its ECAC Bowl declaration this week.  So hold the Curry for 2008.

Last year Curry squared off with Coast guard and we got a bowl game ,so your telling me Curry didn't want to particiapate this year, throwing in the towel for 08'
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HailMary15 on November 12, 2008, 06:25:03 PM
The NEFC title game alternates between Bogan and Boyd. Conference record has no impact on who hosts
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 12, 2008, 06:27:21 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 12, 2008, 06:23:56 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 12, 2008, 06:19:24 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 12, 2008, 06:16:33 PM
Last year PSU played Bridgewater St for a bowl

Yeah, THE NEXT WEEK FOR AN ECAC GAME!

First you need to crown a champion.  Oh, but wait, Curry withdrew its ECAC Bowl declaration this week.  So hold the Curry for 2008.

Last year Curry squared off with Coast guard and we got a bowl game ,so your telling me Curry didn't want to particiapate this year, throwing in the towel for 08'

If they withdrew their bid, then yes they did throw in the towel...

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2008, 06:42:41 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 12, 2008, 06:23:56 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 12, 2008, 06:19:24 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 12, 2008, 06:16:33 PM
Last year PSU played Bridgewater St for a bowl

Yeah, THE NEXT WEEK FOR AN ECAC GAME!

First you need to crown a champion.  Oh, but wait, Curry withdrew its ECAC Bowl declaration this week.  So hold the Curry for 2008.

Last year Curry squared off with Coast guard and we got a bowl game ,so your telling me Curry didn't want to particiapate this year, throwing in the towel for 08'

Curry/Coast Guard was for the nefc pool A bid, not a bowl game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 12, 2008, 06:58:09 PM
The toilet bowl?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on November 12, 2008, 07:02:28 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 12, 2008, 06:58:09 PM
The toilet bowl?

Did they play it in Merrimack Valley??
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 12, 2008, 07:40:03 PM
Quote from: Union89 on November 12, 2008, 07:02:28 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 12, 2008, 06:58:09 PM
The toilet bowl?

Did they play it in Merrimack Valley??

Only in Lawrence.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on November 12, 2008, 07:43:30 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 12, 2008, 07:40:03 PM
Quote from: Union89 on November 12, 2008, 07:02:28 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 12, 2008, 06:58:09 PM
The toilet bowl?

Did they play it in Merrimack Valley??

Only in Lawrence.


Was there yesterday....driving through the city reminds one of the movie, 'Warriors'....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 12, 2008, 07:59:24 PM
Why is it like Bizarro world in here?  Do these schools teach English??
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2008, 08:05:33 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 12, 2008, 07:59:24 PM
Why is it like Bizarro world in here?  Do these schools teach English??

JU has a masters degree from an NEFC school (And is 12 credits away from a 2nd masters from another NEFC school).

And I is a lot smarter because of those.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 12, 2008, 08:12:45 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2008, 08:05:33 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 12, 2008, 07:59:24 PM
Why is it like Bizarro world in here?  Do these schools teach English??

JU has a masters degree from an NEFC school (And is 12 credits away from a 2nd masters from another NEFC school).

And I is a lot smarter because of those.

And you make fun of Cortland?  Just kidding ...  No offense meant. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 12, 2008, 08:16:49 PM
If it wasn't for one poster, i am pretty sure the content of these posts would make much more sense...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on November 12, 2008, 08:24:27 PM
Quote from: Upstate on November 12, 2008, 08:16:49 PM
If it wasn't for one poster, i am pretty sure the content of these posts would make much more sense...


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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2008, 08:27:18 PM
Quote from: Union89 on November 12, 2008, 08:24:27 PM
Quote from: Upstate on November 12, 2008, 08:16:49 PM
If it wasn't for one poster, i am pretty sure the content of these posts would make much more sense...


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Thats ****ing great.  Almost had a snarf out of JU.  +K

I bet NLNG is like a beer drinking machine and would be a great addition to LLPP.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 12, 2008, 08:35:00 PM
or he's been hit in the head too many times which also qualifies him for that position. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 12, 2008, 08:35:51 PM
Quote from: Union89 on November 12, 2008, 08:24:27 PM
Quote from: Upstate on November 12, 2008, 08:16:49 PM
If it wasn't for one poster, i am pretty sure the content of these posts would make much more sense...


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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on November 12, 2008, 08:36:48 PM
Why would anyone want to play in the ECAC game especially if it is NEFC vs NEFC that does not prove anything unless a weaker NEFC beats a better NEFC team. For instance if PSU lost last year Bridgewater would have proven a Little something and PSU would have lost alot of respect...It is a toilet bowl game in my opinion and should only be played by NEFC teams if they are playing an E8 or LL team to prove their status to the country and the rest of D3football who gives no respect to NEFC teams
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 12, 2008, 08:38:58 PM
Quote from: defenseiskey on November 12, 2008, 08:36:48 PM
Why would anyone want to play in the ECAC game especially if it is NEFC vs NEFC that does not prove anything unless a weaker NEFC beats a better NEFC team. For instance if PSU lost last year Bridgewater would have proven a Little something and PSU would have lost alot of respect...It is a toilet bowl game in my opinion and should only be played by NEFC teams if they are playing an E8 or LL team to prove their status to the country and the rest of D3football who gives no respect to NEFC teams

ECAC pairings havent even been announced yet and they pulled out...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 12, 2008, 09:33:46 PM
Quote from: defenseiskey on November 12, 2008, 08:36:48 PM
Why would anyone want to play in the ECAC game especially if it is NEFC vs NEFC that does not prove anything unless a weaker NEFC beats a better NEFC team. For instance if PSU lost last year Bridgewater would have proven a Little something and PSU would have lost alot of respect...It is a toilet bowl game in my opinion and should only be played by NEFC teams if they are playing an E8 or LL team to prove their status to the country and the rest of D3football who gives no respect to NEFC teams

It likely wouldn't have been NEFC vs. NEFC this year.  Read my posts in LLPP, and you'd see the declared teams from the other conferences and understand why that would be the case.  There were just two eligible declared teams from the NEFC, and the ECAC Committee would've likely forced somebody to travel to Curry from the LL or E8 -- and MIT would've likely traveled to potentially WPI or Hartwick, by my estimation.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 12, 2008, 09:45:27 PM
Quote from: Union89 on November 12, 2008, 08:24:27 PM
Quote from: Upstate on November 12, 2008, 08:16:49 PM
If it wasn't for my post, i am pretty sure the content of these posts would make much more sense...


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"nuff said"
                          you forgot the quotes dope

                           
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2008, 09:49:40 PM
NLNG,

stay away from the booze for the rest of the night, and stay away from this thing forever...

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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 12, 2008, 09:53:29 PM
Quote from: Upstate on November 12, 2008, 08:35:51 PM
Quote from: Union89 on November 12, 2008, 08:24:27 PM
Quote from: Upstate on November 12, 2008, 08:16:49 PM
If it wasn't for one poster, i am pretty sure the content of these posts would make much more sense...


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[/quote}                                      YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD

Only you would know about that if ya'all know what I mean
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 12, 2008, 09:55:17 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2008, 09:49:40 PM
NLNG,

stay away from the booze for the rest of the night, and stay away from this thing forever...

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JU
I want to party wit u man ...........booze & snooze
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 12, 2008, 09:57:45 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 12, 2008, 08:35:00 PM
or I've  been hit in the head too many times which also qualifies mefor that position. 

I call that mushroom stamping around here


Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on November 12, 2008, 11:21:40 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 12, 2008, 09:45:27 PM
Quote from: Union89 on November 12, 2008, 08:24:27 PM
Quote from: Upstate on November 12, 2008, 08:16:49 PM
If it wasn't for my post, i am pretty sure the content of these posts would make much more sense...


                                           U89SAID


"nuff said"
                          you forgot the quotes dope

                           

+1 bro, no hard feelings.....we are after all in your house.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 13, 2008, 05:22:19 AM
Quote from: Union89 on November 12, 2008, 11:21:40 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 12, 2008, 09:45:27 PM
Quote from: Union89 on November 12, 2008, 08:24:27 PM
Quote from: Upstate on November 12, 2008, 08:16:49 PM
If it wasn't for my post, i am pretty sure the content of these posts would make much more sense...


                                           U89SAID


"nuff said"
                          you forgot the quotes dope

                           

+1 bro, no hard feelings.....we are after all in your house.

         no harm .... no foul .... it's all good
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 13, 2008, 11:47:49 AM
NLNG you were takin a bashing for a while from these E8 or LL posters... first off Curry is doing the leauge  no good if they already withdrew their ECAC bid... If Curry somehow beat a strong LL team, which i think they can judging by how well UMASS D pushed WPI earlier in the year... the conference would  gain much more respect... instead we most likely have a scenario involving Maine Maritime (if they lose like i predict)... playing a Hartwick, SJF, or Ithaca in an ECAC game which could be a diaster since their defense does not match up with any of those teams... worst yet that means another team NEFC team will get an ECAC bid and correct me if im wrong but Frank Rossi mentioned MIT... and lets say that would be a massacre and more reason for E8 and LL posters to bash our teams...

my question is this to someone who knows... if Plymouth St beats Maine, we all know Maine goes to an ECAC game, but since Curry withdrew its bid does that mean the next best team from the Boyd gets the first crack at an ECAC bid? ... if so that would be diasterous, i much rather see Bridgewater play in the game since they are on a roll and they played Rowan tough to start the season and they were clearly were not clickin on all cylinders then
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on November 13, 2008, 12:12:26 PM
According to Around the Reagion - NorthEast, Bridgewater won't play an ECAC game this year.  My gut feel would be that NEFC coaches don't want to practice for another week waiting to find out if they get asked to participate in another game.  The other conferences don't have this problem since they all play this week.  Just a hunch.

It would have been good to see Curry or Bridgewater take this game against another conference team.  I don't think it makes much sense to have one NEFC team play another NEFC team.  That is what the game this weekend is for.

Go Maine!!

Bring your umbrellas and/or rain gear.  Looks like rain this weekend.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan81 on November 13, 2008, 12:28:46 PM
ok the talk about maine getting an ecac bowl game is wrong. They are not eligible due to the fact they played a 10 game schedule. So if they win they go on if they lose the season is over. \

Should be a good game this weekend may the best team win

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bearyear on November 13, 2008, 01:30:22 PM
same goes for bridgewater state... this is the first year they have had a 10 game schedule. they substituted their ecac chances for a game against rowan.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 13, 2008, 03:03:15 PM
HEY NLNG!!
can we expect a big showing for plymouth at the game??
i made a call to maine maritime and  and i was told the visitor side stands are intact. the home side bleachers are damaged.   ;D

CB23

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 13, 2008, 03:10:25 PM
Quote from: bearyear on November 13, 2008, 01:30:22 PM
same goes for bridgewater state... this is the first year they have had a 10 game schedule. they substituted their ecac chances for a game against rowan.

No, you can play 10 games and 1 Non-NCAA postseason game. The NEFC championship is that game.  The loser of that game is done for the year. Bridgewater could play in a ECAC game if they wanted to.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HailMary15 on November 13, 2008, 06:22:55 PM
The visitor stands are intact but not very big.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 13, 2008, 06:42:52 PM
 Yes X I took some heat from E8 & LL but I thought I stood my ground.
Takes a set to come over to OUR board and start trashing and being ignorant . Thats all right, I headed over there after it was all said and done and started handing out mushroom stamps . I think they liked it .

I can agree kidding someone about one anothers team and all but they got nasty. This isn't the NFL, kids are just out here playing week after week for the love of the game,nothing more. Probably less than 1% make it to the big game from here. Most of us on here are living in his son's shadows,some wish they were still playing.

Most guys talking on here, including me haven't seen the others teams play, hell I know we are a weaker conference, but let US have our GLORY when a team has a good season.

                                   " nuff said "

                                        NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 13, 2008, 06:59:33 PM
Quote from: 63Center on November 02, 2008, 12:42:17 PM
Congrats to you NLNG you are now a starter.  I went 6-s this week in my picks.  Only one week left of regular NEFC Season, let's keep the postings going. 



63 a little chatter here 12 more to go! We definetly moved the pages along this year, lets keep it rolling.

Same thing happened last year at this time the pages just stopped.
                                   get r done
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 13, 2008, 07:01:33 PM
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Who done it now? -20  ouch
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 13, 2008, 07:16:35 PM
haha i think it is about time to give up the battle for getting your Karma back into the positive numbers... everyone who posts on this board knows the contributions you make... whether they like it or not...

but onto football i think Plymouth st will win on saturday and if they do they have as the 5th seed in the east and playing Hobart... to be honest i like that matchup for Plymouth St and think they will put up a respectable showing... also the projections have left it open for Curry to sneak in there just maybe even though they are a very very very long long long shot to do so... lets hope for a good game this weekend
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 13, 2008, 07:41:16 PM
I like NLNG.  +K
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 13, 2008, 07:50:20 PM
haha this is hilarious
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 13, 2008, 08:06:23 PM
hey nlng!!
how strong do you like your coffee??
lite, reg.strong,extra strong or  cappacino   :o

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 13, 2008, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 13, 2008, 07:50:20 PM
haha this is hilarious


I got a chuckle out of it as well
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 13, 2008, 08:55:54 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 13, 2008, 03:03:15 PM
HEY NLNG!!
can we expect a big showing for plymouth at the game??
i made a call to maine maritime and  and i was told the visitor side stands are intact. the home side bleachers are damaged.   ;D

CB23



I think it will be a good showing for us, hell when we drove to Buffalo 3 years ago we almost filled the visitors side and that was 8 hrours away. We generally have a great following on away games. Not many of our  students as expected.

I like my coffee hot & black please
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 13, 2008, 09:10:01 PM
oh! i get it!!
1 irish expresso coming your way   :P

any word on mack?!?!?!    :(

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 14, 2008, 11:27:02 AM
is mack not playing on saturday?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HailMary15 on November 14, 2008, 01:55:24 PM
I thought he only had the flu last week? If thats the case I highly doubt he would miss a game a week later, let alone the conference championship.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on November 14, 2008, 02:47:11 PM
If I was a player in the championship I would do all I could to play even if I had the flu. PSU should pull this one out but crazier things have happend
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 14, 2008, 03:09:54 PM
last i heard mack had lost a few pounds ( about 13 pounds) but is on the mends    8)

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 14, 2008, 06:58:33 PM
Quote from: HailMary15 on November 14, 2008, 01:55:24 PM
I thought he only had the flu last week? If thats the case I highly doubt he would miss a game a week later, let alone the conference championship.

I'm sure he probably had an easy week of practice this, trying to get his strength back. Soupy has been running real well too, if Jeff isn't feeling up to par. Believe me, if he is feeling 50% he'll give you a 100%,just the kind of person he is. I can't wait for the game, but not looking forward to the drive. GO PLYMOUTH bring it home!!!!!

                                            "nuff said"

                                               NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 14, 2008, 08:07:48 PM
 CB what time are you heading up there ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 14, 2008, 08:12:00 PM
 We're going to leave around 7:00 am
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 14, 2008, 08:13:28 PM
hey nlng!!
we will be on the road at 6 am sharp     :P 

steve cambell stepped in for mack and did an outstanding job!!
but, i say we need him at linebacker this week.
go big-d  ;D

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 14, 2008, 08:15:04 PM
   The SOUP can go both ways if he has to, he's an animal don't you know !
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 14, 2008, 08:27:20 PM
remember........we can with all heart!!!!!
but, we need to be smart   8)

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 14, 2008, 08:35:07 PM
I know but you've got to remember D-mark is a fullback as well , there are alot of weapons to go to. Defence needs to carry the torch though, I know what your saying.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 14, 2008, 08:56:31 PM
hey nlng!!
see you in maine  8)

by the way, how much coffee do you think it will take to fill my coffee cup  :o

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 15, 2008, 04:58:49 AM
                               GAME DAY !!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 15, 2008, 05:03:14 AM
Quote from: CB23 on November 14, 2008, 08:56:31 PM
hey nlng!!
see you in maine  8)

by the way, how much coffee do you think it will take to fill my coffee cup  :o

CB23

A handle, I think
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 15, 2008, 09:12:26 AM
My score prediction:

PSU 35 MME 21

Good luck to both teams.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 15, 2008, 09:56:39 AM
MM 50 PSU 35
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 15, 2008, 03:39:03 PM
SPU 46 MME 16, I guess PSU left no doubt about who was the better team.  Good Luck PSU in the NCAA.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HailMary15 on November 15, 2008, 04:57:16 PM
Sloppy game by the MMA offense, putting the ball on the ground 4 times. PSU's offensive line played great all day long opening up just enough space for PSU's 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense.

Represent the NEFC well PSU
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 15, 2008, 07:40:32 PM
Quote from: HailMary15 on November 15, 2008, 04:57:16 PM
Sloppy game by the MMA offense, putting the ball on the ground 4 times. PSU's offensive line played great all day long opening up just enough space for PSU's 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense.

Represent the NEFC well PSU

I agree the turnovers hurt MEM in a big way . Both teams came out strong in the first quarter, hell I thought the score was going to be 64-62 at game end the way they were scoring in the first quarter.
PSU had a 20 minute TOP advantage, great clock management. PSU offense just wore down MEM defense, they were gassed . When Maine got the ball they had to come out throwing, they're not use to that .

         Hats off to PSU great job!!! Lets keep the train moving !!!!
                               
                                        "nuff said"

                                         NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 15, 2008, 07:55:36 PM
NLNG how many coffees did you have today?  How was the trip!?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 15, 2008, 08:05:25 PM
                             4 coffees
Very long trip, drove in the rain & fog both ways, my eyes are burning as we speak. Great day total domination by O & D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 15, 2008, 08:07:00 PM
                       CB 23 I loved the mask, wear it more often, it's definetly an improvement (LOL)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 16, 2008, 02:40:02 PM
 Looks like PSU will be playing SUNY Cortland 400 miles away ...sweet
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mel on November 16, 2008, 03:12:55 PM
Yes, I love it.  The NEFC gets two in the tourny for the first time. 
Curry at Ithaca will be an experience. 
Plymouth at CState.

This is a big day for our conference.

The E8 gets one in
The NJAC gets one in
The Liberty gets one

Now our two teams need to play well.

Best of luck to both.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 16, 2008, 03:14:15 PM
Who dat gonna beat Dem Spicy Boyz?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 16, 2008, 03:46:20 PM
Quote from: mel on November 16, 2008, 03:12:55 PM
Yes, I love it.  The NEFC gets two in the tourny for the first time. 
Curry at Ithaca will be an experience. 
Plymouth at CState.

This is a big day for our conference.

The E8 gets one in
The NJAC gets one in
The Liberty gets one

Now our two teams need to play well.

Best of luck to both.


This is the biggest mistake the NCAA has made since implementing the BCS in the FBS. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 16, 2008, 03:48:53 PM
The NCAA just gave IC and Cortland bye weeks to set up a big draw for a round 2 game...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mel on November 16, 2008, 04:03:36 PM
Upstate, I totally disagree.

Even if both CState and IC blow up both PSU and Curry those games will take their toll.

PSU just runs the ball and the effect will be like playing Springfield... it will be very physical.  PSU will put 70 runs on Cstate.  CState would rather play a team that throws the ball 40 times.
Curry is more balanced and its style will play into IC's hands.
A second round game between IC and CState at IC will be in IC favor because of the physical style of PSU.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on November 16, 2008, 04:15:21 PM
Congrats to Plymouth and Curry.  Good luck next week.

For those upset about two NEFC teams getting in, I would be asking why only six East teams got in.  Take a close look at the brackets.  They move two North teams to other brackets and actually slid a South team into the North bracket.  You would think they fill the bracket first.  Obviously the region doesn't matter much.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 16, 2008, 06:10:12 PM
 Lets go PSU & Curry lets put NEFC back on the map.

Cortland can hold 10,000 fans, Yikes noone will hear me for sure.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 16, 2008, 06:46:56 PM
Quote from: mel on November 16, 2008, 04:03:36 PM
Upstate, I totally disagree.

Even if both CState and IC blow up both PSU and Curry those games will take their toll.

PSU just runs the ball and the effect will be like playing Springfield... it will be very physical.  PSU will put 70 runs on Cstate.  CState would rather play a team that throws the ball 40 times.
Curry is more balanced and its style will play into IC's hands.
A second round game between IC and CState at IC will be in IC favor because of the physical style of PSU.

Ummmm are you serious?  Did you actually bother to look at the box score of the IC game or any other game this year.  Our run defense is amazing and our pass D is suspect at most. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mel on November 16, 2008, 07:05:37 PM
I get it CState... believe me I get it.

My point is Cortland will have to tackle PSU 70 + times and that takes its toll on a bunch of guys in the front 7.  I do not see PSU winning in any manner but they will get their pound of flesh.   PSU's oline is very quick like a Springfield line.  The Corlanders will have to deal with alot of low blocks.

You missed my entire point. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 16, 2008, 07:08:28 PM
No I got it, the pjhysical demand on the body will hurt us against IC the next week but MY POINT was that if they threw the ball 50 times we might never get to IC. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on November 16, 2008, 07:30:17 PM
Congrats on another title, it's time to step it up another notch!!!  Joe Dudek style!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on November 16, 2008, 07:39:03 PM
Here come the ghosts of Plymouth pasts!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mel on November 16, 2008, 07:40:05 PM
Well CState.. great news for you.  PSU has barely the intention of throwing. 
Rest easy and best of luck.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on November 17, 2008, 11:34:34 AM
Congrats to Plymouth State...and to Curry.

And Congrats to the NEFC in general for getting TWO teams into the NCAA tournament. Who would have thought that we'd get an at large bid, and a possible rematch in round two (although unlikely)

another season winding down....but heating up
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bombers798891 on November 17, 2008, 11:39:29 AM
Quote from: mel on November 16, 2008, 04:03:36 PM
Upstate, I totally disagree.

Even if both CState and IC blow up both PSU and Curry those games will take their toll.

PSU just runs the ball and the effect will be like playing Springfield... it will be very physical.  PSU will put 70 runs on Cstate.  CState would rather play a team that throws the ball 40 times.
Curry is more balanced and its style will play into IC's hands.
A second round game between IC and CState at IC will be in IC favor because of the physical style of PSU.

So what's the 411 on Curry? Looks like the QB has a low completion % and a 1-1 TD/INT ratio, but a ton of yards. Also, they seem to have a RB by committee thing going. Do they run a veer or option of some kind?

Defensively, how big are they? IC's line is pretty massive so if Curry is undersized, it could get bad (Read: the Wick game). This offense has weapons all over the place.

Also regarding who would be favored in a IC-CState rematch: The answer is Ithaca. The two teams played two weeks ago (at that point anyway) in Cortland and Ithaca came away with a solid, if unspectacular victory with backups at two main positions. Cortland's recent success at IC would mean they wouldn't come in intimidated, but IC would have the confidence to know they'd beaten them once. While Cortland's offensive playcalling was strange and probably hurt them in the game, the defense had no answer for an Ithaca offense that is firing on all cylinders right now and gained 414 yards and averaged 6.3 yards a play. Maybe Cortland just had one of those games (Like IC had at SJF), but I would think, barring some other injuries in a 1st round game, Ithaca would come in as the favorite
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: XREDDRAGON77 on November 17, 2008, 11:44:13 AM
Bomber,
I agree IC would be favored in round 2, but......IC had no answer to the Cortland run game as Cortland had no response to the pass game.  No idea why they stopped running, something they have done great all season.  A few tweaks here and there and maybe it's a game and not a monkey stomp.  I also don't see Plymouth runnning the ball real well, unless they are a triple option team.  Anything from the I will get squashed.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bombers798891 on November 17, 2008, 11:55:36 AM
Quote from: XREDDRAGON77 on November 17, 2008, 11:44:13 AM
Bomber,
I agree IC would be favored in round 2, but......IC had no answer to the Cortland run game as Cortland had no response to the pass game.  No idea why they stopped running, something they have done great all season.  A few tweaks here and there and maybe it's a game and not a monkey stomp.  I also don't see Plymouth runnning the ball real well, unless they are a triple option team.  Anything from the I will get squashed.

I agree...Cortland could run the ball on IC...the question I would have for a rematch though is this: Miles looked so bad--14-28, 3 INT, I FL--the Bombers may be able to key on the run more than they had originally. Cortland didn't even try a deep ball and didn't seem to have playmakers at WR. Almost no YAC for the WR's
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 17, 2008, 12:05:47 PM
Bombers-

Curry has some good size on both lines, not excellent size like ithaca, but they are about 6-2 250 and up on the Oline... thier D line is a little bit smaller but they have some good size and one kid, a DT is a pretty good ball player with good size... i think #99... the philosphy at Curry is to get as many people as much playing time becuase that is how you improve so they do have multiple running backs they will use... thier main weapon on offense is thier qb van geisen... he throws for a ton of yards but has the tendency to throw picks... he doest spread it around too much and likes to throw to the two outside guys alot.. he is also a capable runner if need be...

Thier corners are not the biggest players but show some speed... Ithaca should be able to throw relatively easy with their athletes tho... their Linebackers are good but not excellent so we will see what happen... Ithaca should be able to put up some points on them...

Curry has a better offense but to keep them in the game they will need to control the clock... some teams have been able to run on Ithaca but with thier size and the power I tendency of Curry to run that could be difficult for them... it will take a miracle to win but curry could stay somewhat close if they have some success throwing mixing in the run and control the ball keeping Ithaca off the field
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 17, 2008, 02:19:26 PM
Quote from: Bombers798891 on November 17, 2008, 11:55:36 AM
Quote from: XREDDRAGON77 on November 17, 2008, 11:44:13 AM
Bomber,
I agree IC would be favored in round 2, but......IC had no answer to the Cortland run game as Cortland had no response to the pass game.  No idea why they stopped running, something they have done great all season.  A few tweaks here and there and maybe it's a game and not a monkey stomp.  I also don't see Plymouth runnning the ball real well, unless they are a triple option team.  Anything from the I will get squashed.

I agree...Cortland could run the ball on IC...the question I would have for a rematch though is this: Miles looked so bad--14-28, 3 INT, I FL--the Bombers may be able to key on the run more than they had originally. Cortland didn't even try a deep ball and didn't seem to have playmakers at WR. Almost no YAC for the WR's


Excellent point on being able to key on the run.  The fact is that I highly doubt Miles lays the same egg.  If IC keys on the run (and there is no guarentee that will even work) it may make it easier for Miles to make plays and now you have both facets of the offense working. 

Of course IC is the favorite.  Anyone who says anything other wise is out of their mind.  The question would be by how much. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on November 17, 2008, 02:58:58 PM
Quote from: Bombers798891 on November 17, 2008, 11:55:36 AM
Quote from: XREDDRAGON77 on November 17, 2008, 11:44:13 AM
Bomber,
I agree IC would be favored in round 2, but......IC had no answer to the Cortland run game as Cortland had no response to the pass game.  No idea why they stopped running, something they have done great all season.  A few tweaks here and there and maybe it's a game and not a monkey stomp.  I also don't see Plymouth runnning the ball real well, unless they are a triple option team.  Anything from the I will get squashed.

I agree...Cortland could run the ball on IC...the question I would have for a rematch though is this: Miles looked so bad--14-28, 3 INT, I FL--the Bombers may be able to key on the run more than they had originally. Cortland didn't even try a deep ball and didn't seem to have playmakers at WR. Almost no YAC for the WR's

Bombers...all I can say is that we have not seen that from Miles all year long.  Guaragno and Hajnos are both playmakers and we usually will not hesitate to throwing deep.  IC defense was good and props to Chier but his 3 picks were gift wrapped by Miles.  Jason should send him a thank you note.  If you key the run...you may actually be doing us a favor because I don't see that kind of game from Miles again.  If we do, I don't think that Cortland will hesitate now to change to Pitcher who is arguable a better QB but you don't replace a 2 yr. starter on an undefeated team when by all accounts, he's had a great year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on November 17, 2008, 03:00:36 PM
Quote from: mel on November 16, 2008, 07:05:37 PM
I get it CState... believe me I get it.

My point is Cortland will have to tackle PSU 70 + times and that takes its toll on a bunch of guys in the front 7.  I do not see PSU winning in any manner but they will get their pound of flesh.   PSU's oline is very quick like a Springfield line.  The Corlanders will have to deal with alot of low blocks.

You missed my entire point. 

Mel, whatever your point...if you run the ball on CState 70 times....you lose.  If you are going to beat them it will be through the air.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mel on November 17, 2008, 03:41:05 PM
I do not know where I mentioned PSU beating Cortland.
I only mentioned their style of play.
The whole point was made in response to who would have an advantage in an IC v Cortland rematch in playoff round two.
That was all.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 17, 2008, 06:09:28 PM
   Boxer, 63 center check this out we're on page 150, HOLY SMOKES
This has been a good year for posting. How about some Curry posters, you've got to take care of business this year. Good luck this up coming week with Ithaca, "GET R DONE"
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fishfan on November 17, 2008, 08:23:14 PM
Again 1 and done for the nefc.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 17, 2008, 09:41:38 PM
 Dingle you going to NY?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 17, 2008, 09:47:28 PM
Quote from: fishfan on November 17, 2008, 08:23:14 PM
Again 1 and done for the nefc.

You better hope you get by Husson, fried fish
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bombers798891 on November 17, 2008, 09:54:13 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 17, 2008, 09:47:28 PM
Quote from: fishfan on November 17, 2008, 08:23:14 PM
Again 1 and done for the nefc.

You better hope you get by Husson, fried fish

Don't worry about him. He's too busy drooling over his Mark Robinson cutout to take notice. The irony of course, is that SJF is about to be "1 and done". Such is the life for the ECAC games...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: XREDDRAGON77 on November 18, 2008, 09:04:33 AM
Since Curry did not make the NEFC championship game, were they still practicing last week in anticipation of a playoff bid.  Did they have an ECAC mind set to keep them rolling.  I do not know much about this league so sorry if this question sounds lame. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 18, 2008, 09:10:13 AM
Quote from: XREDDRAGON77 on November 18, 2008, 09:04:33 AM
Since Curry did not make the NEFC championship game, were they still practicing last week in anticipation of a playoff bid.  Did they have an ECAC mind set to keep them rolling.  I do not know much about this league so sorry if this question sounds lame. 

Apparently they dropped their ECAC application.  It's a great question.  I'd be interestedin the same.  If they DID practice, I bet they were REALLY intense...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: XREDDRAGON77 on November 18, 2008, 09:48:02 AM
What style of Offense does Plymouth run.  Hearing mention of 70 rushes a game can only be from an Option or Wing T ( highly improbable Wing T) style of offense.  What's the scoop?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on November 18, 2008, 10:06:00 AM
Quote from: XREDDRAGON77 on November 18, 2008, 09:48:02 AM
What style of Offense does Plymouth run.  Hearing mention of 70 rushes a game can only be from an Option or Wing T ( highly improbable Wing T) style of offense.  What's the scoop?

They run the I formation.  Jeff Mack lines up 7-8 yards off the line of scrimmage and gets a majority of the carries.  The up man will get his fair share and occasionally the QB will run.  They will pass, but my guess is only to keep the defense honest.  The QB has a decent arm so he can go deep.  Against Maine Maritime they went to left quite a bit.  I don't know if that is a statement of that side of their O-Line, but it worked for them most of the time.  Mack is good at finding the whole and that is where he can be dangerous.  If you don't get him in the backfield he's getting 6 or more yards.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on November 18, 2008, 10:18:36 AM
I see that they only have 1 starting OL listed as over 250 lbs and only a couple on their entire roster.  I would think it will be a tall order to run, run, run on Cortland.

Neither here nor there but some have tried  to compare conferences with little comparative data to go on.  I don't know how valid this is but consider this:  Plymouth State's only loss came rather convicingly to Mount Ida.  Mount Ida was beaten convincingly by Morrisville, the weakest team in the NJAC.....may mean nothing but I throw it out there for whatever its worth.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on November 18, 2008, 10:27:28 AM
Sounds as though Plymouth is on the right track, but not quite back to where they  once were. Nobody says anything about their Defense, which used to be one of the best in the nation....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 18, 2008, 11:35:51 AM
Dem Spicy Boys gonna do the curry crip walk all over butterfield. Fans in the stands will have white tee's on and styrofoam cups with the purple drank.

blee dat

/wishes Curry fans were like West Conn fans...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 18, 2008, 11:42:19 AM
Quote from: 'gro on November 18, 2008, 11:35:51 AM
Dem Spicy Boys gonna do the curry crip walk all over butterfield. Fans in the stands will have white tee's on and styrofoam cups with the purple drank.

blee dat

/wishes Curry fans were like West Conn fans...

WHO DAT GON BEAT DEM SPICY BOYZZZ WHO DAT!!!
-Signed, Rodman
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 18, 2008, 01:08:38 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 18, 2008, 11:42:19 AM
Quote from: 'gro on November 18, 2008, 11:35:51 AM
Dem Spicy Boys gonna do the curry crip walk all over butterfield. Fans in the stands will have white tee's on and styrofoam cups with the purple drank.

blee dat

/wishes Curry fans were like West Conn fans...

WHO DAT GON BEAT DEM SPICY BOYZZZ WHO DAT!!!
-Signed, Rodman

+k.  See you on Osborne St.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 18, 2008, 02:12:25 PM
Quote from: 'gro on November 18, 2008, 11:35:51 AM

/wishes Curry fans were like West Conn fans...

Damn. That's an old-school poster right there. We haven't had West Conn fans here since they flamed out at home after the first-round bye in ... 2000?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 18, 2008, 05:24:12 PM
hey nlng!!
coach cast & coach zee made some awesome adjustments after the score was 16-14 in start of 2nd quarter. final 46-16 proves it   ;D

from all these questions and concerns over who can do what are the psu team's strengths, weaknesses and play call...  looks like  their diggin for info >:(
remember... silence is golden   ::)

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 18, 2008, 05:30:52 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 18, 2008, 05:24:12 PM
hey nlng!!
coach cast & coach zee made some awesome adjustments after the score was 16-14 in start of 2nd quarter. final 46-16 proves it   ;D

from all these questions and concerns over who can do what are the psu team's strengths, weaknesses and play call...  looks like  their diggin for info >:(
remember... silence is golden   ::)

CB23

Yeah because i'm sure Cortland's coaches are searching all over these boards for the antidote to stop the Plymouth machine...

Cortland coaches try build gameplan for Plymouth State through d3 boards...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWcb2TFJWcc
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 06:56:06 PM
 Hey Lew how's the shrinkage?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 18, 2008, 06:58:43 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 18, 2008, 05:30:52 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 18, 2008, 05:24:12 PM
hey nlng!!
coach cast & coach zee made some awesome adjustments after the score was 16-14 in start of 2nd quarter. final 46-16 proves it   ;D

from all these questions and concerns over who can do what are the psu team's strengths, weaknesses and play call...  looks like  their diggin for info >:(
remember... silence is golden   ::)

CB23

Yeah because i'm sure Cortland's coaches are searching all over these boards for the antidote to stop the Plymouth machine...

Cortland coaches try build gameplan for Plymouth State through d3 boards...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWcb2TFJWcc

Of course they are searching the boards. No one can stop the PSU machine not even Curry! SHHHHHHH don't give anything away!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 07:00:27 PM
 'gro some what's your take on all this stuff?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 18, 2008, 07:02:05 PM
How many full time coaches at Curry and Plymouth State?  I checked Curry's website and clicked on defensive coordinator and got this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtsISSFPEO0
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 07:06:18 PM
 Damn that tongue was awesome
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 07:06:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkZYoHT-vRU

Curry does have the best dam mascot in the country thats for sure...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 07:08:56 PM
 I'm going to have nightmares tonight, was that 'gro somes girlfriend ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 18, 2008, 07:27:08 PM
cortland coaches? who mentioned cortland coaches?  ::)

besides... leave them alone, their still licking their wounds

CB23

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 07:34:38 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 18, 2008, 07:27:08 PM
cortland coaches? who mentioned cortland coaches?  ::)

besides... leave them alone, their still licking their wounds

CB23



Up until that comment I had thought you guys were the cute little opponent that might put up a fight.  Now I just realize you guys are Curry's whipping boys, and a team that is just about on par with Morrisville State.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 07:39:17 PM
johnny utah

that Curry mascot clip was hilarious... and i think we are going to be in for a good weekend of football... i think PSU will surprise some people and put up a decent fight against cortland st... i was praying for mount to stay out of the east and have cortland winning b/c that meant plymouth could of played hobart which i think would of been a much better matchup... but for curry's sake lets pray...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 07:39:25 PM
 dim boyz r bad ! One mushroom stamp coming up !
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 07:41:10 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 07:39:17 PM
johnny utah

that Curry mascot clip was hilarious... and i think we are going to be in for a good weekend of football... i think PSU will surprise some people and put up a decent fight against cortland st... i was praying for mount to stay out of the east and have cortland winning b/c that meant plymouth could of played hobart which i think would of been a much better matchup... but for curry's sake lets pray...

Plattsburgh State University could find 50 guys on campus that would give us more of a fight then that other PSU.  I was pretty much ignoring these guys until CB23 fired me up.  Thanks, it would have been boring for Cortland to just beat you with no interest from me at all. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 07:42:48 PM
 OH really ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 18, 2008, 07:46:43 PM
hey cstate19!!
that wasn't very nice.
no coffee for you at the game!!
by the way, any score prediction  :-\

hey nlng!!
there fired up now? we were fired up at opening game!!
looks like they grew some   ;D

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 07:52:19 PM
 make mine a large, no sugar, no cream just black, I'll add the other stuff later. Hey CB23 when are you leaving Friday night or Saturday early ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 07:53:20 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 18, 2008, 07:46:43 PM
hey cstate19!!
that wasn't very nice.
no coffee for you at the game!!
by the way, any score prediction  :-\

hey nlng!!
there fired up now? we were fired up at opening game!!
looks like they grew some   ;D

CB23

Score prediction will come later in the week,  Unfortunatly cstate will not be making the 3 hour trip to the game and does not drink coffee regardless.  If you feel compelled to come to Cortaca 2.0 I will take a Smuttynose Brown Ale.  
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fiveupfront on November 18, 2008, 07:57:26 PM
cortlands got a suprise coming their way with that upstate new york mighty then thou attitude talking about the size of the lines doesnt have much to do with it.  All they need to do is make a crease and psu has a stable of runners who can hit a homerun and control TOP. Combined with  a stingy defense cortland definetly shouldnt over look the panthers.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 07:58:11 PM
 If I'm driving 6 hrs to watch a game, you better buy me a Sam , I'll throw the coffee out .
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 07:58:35 PM
Quote from: fiveupfront on November 18, 2008, 07:56:17 PM
cortlands got a suprise coming their way with that upstate new york mighty then thou attitude talking about the size of the lines doesnt have much to do with it.  All they need to do is make a crease and psu has a stable of runners who can hit a homerun and control TOP. Combined with  a stingy defense cortland definetly shouldnt over look panther.


Umm the term hitting a homerun in football refers to a long touchdown run.  If you score in one play, then how will you control the TOP?  Wouldnt you have the ball less if you were scoring on every play?  

Unless you are playing with one guy, it should probably be "pantherS"

NEFC fans signing up for accounts as fast as possible.  Isn't it sad that your board gets the most action when you play a team from another conference?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:00:08 PM
Quote from: fiveupfront on November 18, 2008, 07:57:26 PM
cortlands got a suprise coming their way with that upstate new york mighty then thou attitude talking about the size of the lines doesnt have much to do with it.  All they need to do is make a crease and psu has a stable of runners who can hit a homerun and control TOP. Combined with  a stingy defense cortland definetly shouldnt over look the panthers.

Is this Ethan Okma, #75  DL for PSU?  Your e-mail suggests it is...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 08:00:42 PM
 Yes it is , isn't that what D3.com is all about , Fool
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:01:06 PM
cstate is all bent out of shape.. imagine if PSU won ha that would be great
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:02:26 PM
PG04 with the snipe
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on November 18, 2008, 08:02:45 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 18, 2008, 08:00:42 PM
Yes it is , isn't that what D3.com is all about , Fool


Wow....here we go.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 08:03:38 PM
Quote from: Union89 on November 18, 2008, 08:02:45 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 18, 2008, 08:00:42 PM
Yes it is , isn't that what D3.com is all about , Fool


Wow....here we go.....

No way.....you are kidding me right?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:03:52 PM
Seriously, PSU players would be stupid to start anything with Cortland right now -- Cortland's trend over the last three games would show some level of fatigue with the schedule they faced this year.  The NJ, Brockport and Ithaca games show somewhat of that trend.  Instead of trying to WAKE UP and ENERGIZE a sleeping giant, you might want to shut your mouth and hope that you can jump out to a lead and outlast Cortland.

Just some friendly advice in order to prevent a double monkey stomp this weekend.  Thanks for listening.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:04:14 PM
great find.....i might make the 3 hour drive now just to heckle him


player bio? pic? anything?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 08:04:30 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 08:03:38 PM
Quote from: Union89 on November 18, 2008, 08:02:45 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 18, 2008, 08:00:42 PM
Yes it is , isn't that what D3.com is all about , Fool


Wow....here we go.....

No way.....you are kidding me right?

NO ****ING WAY!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:04:36 PM
this has to be a joke i hope
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:05:18 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:03:52 PM
Seriously, PSU players would be stupid to start anything with Cortland right now -- Cortland's trend over the last three games would show some level of fatigue with the schedule they faced this year.  The NJ, Brockport and Ithaca games show somewhat of that trend.  Instead of trying to WAKE UP and ENERGIZE a sleeping giant, you might want to shut your mouth and hope that you can jump out to a lead and outlast Cortland.

Just some friendly advice in order to prevent a double monkey stomp this weekend.  Thanks for listening.

http://athletics.plymouth.edu/sports/fball/2008-09/bios/Ethan_Okma
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:06:09 PM
this could get ugly..
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:06:51 PM
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthumb10.webshots.net%2Ft%2F69%2F669%2F9%2F0%2F3%2F2500900030053437970KMkrlb_th.jpg&hash=ac977962b4c8b5c2361a709e8be80a244102e271) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2500900030053437970KMkrlb)

Hereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssss ETHAN!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 08:06:59 PM
Oh I thought it was NLNG for a second, never mind..

This is still gonna be good.  Lets keep it clean, but lets keep it good.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:07:27 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:06:09 PM
this could get ugly..

If players don't want to get called out, they shouldn't come on here... Especially when most coaches frown upon it...  Or they shouldn't make it as obvious...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:07:34 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:06:09 PM
this could get ugly..

Must...

resist...

bad...

humor...

now...

after...

PG's...

link!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:07:42 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 08:06:59 PM
Oh I thought it was NLNG for a second, never mind..

This is still gonna be good.  Lets keep it clean, but lets keep it good.

Agreed.  
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:08:04 PM
Wow ...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:08:20 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 08:06:59 PM
Oh I thought it was NLNG for a second, never mind..

This is still gonna be good.  Lets keep it clean, but lets keep it good.

I wish!  That would have been the find of the Century!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fiveupfront on November 18, 2008, 08:08:42 PM
no its not ethan its his brother who played in the E8 so has a fair idea of what each team has and I remember seeing a springfield team with the same offensive style who ran the ball very effectivly and what I ment by hit a homerun would be that they have players who can break one not just grind out 3 yards so that by that I guess it was a poor choice of words apoligies.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 18, 2008, 08:09:12 PM
hey cstate19!!
check out plymouth stats on top and defense, you see plymouth is the total package.   

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:09:41 PM
sounds alot like the same excuse the kid from fitchburg used huh
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 08:10:01 PM
Quote from: fiveupfront on November 18, 2008, 08:08:42 PM
no its not ethan its his brother who played in the E8 so has a fair idea of what each team has and I remember seeing a springfield team with the same offensive style who ran the ball very effectivly and what I ment by hit a homerun would be that they have players who can break one not just grind out 3 yards so that by that I guess it was a poor choice of words apoligies.

Oh no,

You didnt just go with the "Its my brother, who happens to have my football number at the end of my email address" bit are you?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:10:16 PM
Quote from: fiveupfront on November 18, 2008, 08:08:42 PM
no its not ethan its his brother who played in the E8 so has a fair idea of what each team has and I remember seeing a springfield team with the same offensive style who ran the ball very effectivly and what I ment by hit a homerun would be that they have players who can break one not just grind out 3 yards so that by that I guess it was a poor choice of words apoligies.


Not buying it.  What school?  Research abilities of these posters never cease to amaze me.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:10:45 PM
Someone take the shove rout of this kids hands.  Stop digging  Ethan!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:10:57 PM
Quote from: fiveupfront on November 18, 2008, 08:08:42 PM
no its not ethan its his brother who played in the E8 so has a fair idea of what each team has and I remember seeing a springfield team with the same offensive style who ran the ball very effectivly and what I ment by hit a homerun would be that they have players who can break one not just grind out 3 yards so that by that I guess it was a poor choice of words apoligies.

I would say that someone from the E8 should have better spelling but I've seen superman's posts...

That said, the number in your e-mail matches your "brothers" were you the same number?  
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on November 18, 2008, 08:11:02 PM
Quote from: fiveupfront on November 18, 2008, 08:08:42 PM
no its not ethan its his brother who played in the E8 so has a fair idea of what each team has and I remember seeing a springfield team with the same offensive style who ran the ball very effectivly and what I ment by hit a homerun would be that they have players who can break one not just grind out 3 yards so that by that I guess it was a poor choice of words apoligies.


Pal,
For your own good, stop posting.....even if you are the kids brother.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 08:11:09 PM
 I'll be the guy wearing the multi-colored hat, it will be like finding WALDO , you want to play? Then drive half the distance I have to . "Let's find Waldo "
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 18, 2008, 08:11:23 PM
Dude was your brother #75 as well or is he just a big fan of yours...

Sorry i stepped into the convo 10 days too late but this is F-ing hilarious to find a guy about to play a playoff game come on here...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:11:23 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:08:20 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 08:06:59 PM
Oh I thought it was NLNG for a second, never mind..

This is still gonna be good.  Lets keep it clean, but lets keep it good.

I wish!  That would have been the find of the Century!

I found a picture of him driving, but you might be able to zoom in on him in the driver's seat... It was him driving down 95 North:

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkidologist.com%2Fwp-content%2F2007%2F11%2Fcimg4876.jpg&hash=69f2111857a771f717dc4a8e4c5a5d42cd9e0773)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fiveupfront on November 18, 2008, 08:11:44 PM
Norwich University 06 so research all you want
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 08:12:11 PM
NLNG give this kid a ms will ya?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:14:03 PM
Quote from: fscbaby on September 18, 2008, 09:59:48 AM
it isnt marlon that is saying this...this is his brother that is using his email address.....I asked to him for it so that i could post things and give my insight on the season!

Ethan sounds alot like marlon here
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:14:12 PM
Quote from: fiveupfront on November 18, 2008, 08:11:44 PM
Norwich University 06 so research all you want


Being done right now.  
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:14:54 PM
Can anyone find an Okma on these statistics?

http://www.norwichathletics.com/sports/fball/2006-07/stats/teamcume.htm
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:15:20 PM
Hes not there. 

In 2006 75-Dan Withrow
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 08:16:30 PM
Yea I just looked I couldnt find him...

(All you Cortland guys should realize that if he graduated in '06, he would have last played in '05)
sorry cstate19 I had to throw that in there...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:16:42 PM
not good  ???
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fiveupfront on November 18, 2008, 08:17:42 PM
05 was my last season playing I was 78 in college 75 is the high school number I didnt relize how much research your guys put into this
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:17:47 PM
so are we giving credit to this theory??
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:18:15 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 08:16:30 PM
Yea I just looked I couldnt find him...

(All you Cortland guys should realize that if he graduated in '06, he would have last played in '05)
sorry cstate19 I had to throw that in there...

I actually realized that too late and went back to 2005.  
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 08:18:41 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 08:16:30 PM
Yea I just looked I couldnt find him...

(All you Cortland guys should realize that if he graduated in '06, he would have last played in '05)
sorry cstate19 I had to throw that in there...

Dont think I didnt see that Frank  ;)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 18, 2008, 08:18:55 PM
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LOOK OUT CORTLAND!!! HERE COMES EEEETHAN!!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:19:52 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 08:18:41 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 08:16:30 PM
Yea I just looked I couldnt find him...

(All you Cortland guys should realize that if he graduated in '06, he would have last played in '05)
sorry cstate19 I had to throw that in there...

Dont think I didnt see that Frank  ;)

Yeah -- I always do that, too... My bad.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:20:31 PM
another reason for posters to make fun of the NEFC... what a shame
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:20:43 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 18, 2008, 08:18:55 PM
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LOOK OUT CORTLAND!!! HERE COMES EEEETHAN!!!!!



+k
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:21:04 PM
wow Lewdogg.... LOL wow
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 08:21:24 PM
Nope!  The kid speaks the truth.......maybe.....

 Participation Report (Final)
                            2005 Norwich Football
               Norwich vs #11 Ithaca (10/08/05 at Ithaca, N.Y.)


Norwich                                        Ithaca

POS  ## OFFENSE                                POS  ## OFFENSE
WR   5  Andreas Craig                          WR   17 PatrickHEENEHAN
LT   72 Joe Brown                              LT   55 Brett MONNAT
LG   71 Greg Michon                            LG   70 Joe SCALICE
C    69 Dan Polachek                           C    58 Justin BRUNELL
RG   78 Zach Okma                              RG   53 Aaron ROSSI
RT   68 Nick Ditcheos                          RT   73 Paul CATALDO
TE   88 Adam DeJong                            TE   84 Tom LABENSKI
WR   83 Chase Jenne                            WR   9  Jeff O'HARA
QB   10 Marcus Adames                          QB   3  Josh FELICETTI
FB   33 Eric Murphy                            TE   88 Mike OERTEL
TB   28 Darnell Jackson                        RB   46 Jamie DONOVAN

POS  ## DEFENSE                                POS  ## DEFENSE
DE   44 Jimmy Baker                            DE   63 Mark LICWINKO
DT   65 William Hribar                         DT   97 Tom CASTELLANO
DT   97 Peter Yazbak                           DT   75 John CAMERON
DE   58 Akeem Cedeno                           DE   91 Dave CELESTE
LB   26 Chick Weir                             LB   45 Chris MEDICI
LB   54 M. Lieberman                           LB   49 Mike NOWAK
LB   52 Greg Abell                             LB   44 Dustin ROSS
LB   30 Paul Bagordo                           CB   12 Dane HEWLETT
CB   21 Jamar Rawles                           FS   28 Tom BLUMENAUER
S    4  Taylor Brown                           SS   15 Bob HIGGINS
CB   23 Brandon Recchia                        CB   18 Scott LIEBER
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:21:31 PM
Yea he played in 05.  

RG   78 Zach Okma
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:22:12 PM
Must really love the brother to have his number as the email.  Whats everyones verdict?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 18, 2008, 08:22:21 PM
Quote from: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:21:31 PM
Yea he played in 05.  

RG   78 Zach Okma


Dude!  Zach's gonna be pissed when he finds out Ethan blew him up like thaT!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:22:42 PM
He might... or he might have a really good backup real-life backup if he were to be caught...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:22:48 PM
but the email ends with 75 not 78... not trying to be negative
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:22:53 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 08:21:24 PM
Nope!  The kid speaks the truth.......maybe.....

 Participation Report (Final)
                            2005 Norwich Football
               Norwich vs #11 Ithaca (10/08/05 at Ithaca, N.Y.)


Norwich                                        Ithaca

POS  ## OFFENSE                                POS  ## OFFENSE
WR   5  Andreas Craig                          WR   17 PatrickHEENEHAN
LT   72 Joe Brown                              LT   55 Brett MONNAT
LG   71 Greg Michon                            LG   70 Joe SCALICE
C    69 Dan Polachek                           C    58 Justin BRUNELL
RG   78 Zach Okma                              RG   53 Aaron ROSSI
RT   68 Nick Ditcheos                          RT   73 Paul CATALDO
TE   88 Adam DeJong                            TE   84 Tom LABENSKI
WR   83 Chase Jenne                            WR   9  Jeff O'HARA
QB   10 Marcus Adames                          QB   3  Josh FELICETTI
FB   33 Eric Murphy                            TE   88 Mike OERTEL
TB   28 Darnell Jackson                        RB   46 Jamie DONOVAN

POS  ## DEFENSE                                POS  ## DEFENSE
DE   44 Jimmy Baker                            DE   63 Mark LICWINKO
DT   65 William Hribar                         DT   97 Tom CASTELLANO
DT   97 Peter Yazbak                           DT   75 John CAMERON
DE   58 Akeem Cedeno                           DE   91 Dave CELESTE
LB   26 Chick Weir                             LB   45 Chris MEDICI
LB   54 M. Lieberman                           LB   49 Mike NOWAK
LB   52 Greg Abell                             LB   44 Dustin ROSS
LB   30 Paul Bagordo                           CB   12 Dane HEWLETT
CB   21 Jamar Rawles                           FS   28 Tom BLUMENAUER
S    4  Taylor Brown                           SS   15 Bob HIGGINS
CB   23 Brandon Recchia                        CB   18 Scott LIEBER


Yep -- and I played OLine in that game with my alternate first name, too!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:23:22 PM
                                     NU       IC
FIRST DOWNS...................        8       22
RUSHES-YARDS (NET)............    36-40   42-172


Looks like whoever had a great day at the RG spot.  
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:23:43 PM
Papa Yosh?  
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:24:14 PM
haha a great performace at RG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 08:24:33 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 18, 2008, 08:18:55 PM
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LOOK OUT CORTLAND!!! HERE COMES EEEETHAN!!!!!

Im absoutly crying right now....crying....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:24:44 PM
I love this.  The whole board freezes except for this topic.  Its like when kids rush to a fight in HS. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:25:12 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 08:24:33 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 18, 2008, 08:18:55 PM
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LOOK OUT CORTLAND!!! HERE COMES EEEETHAN!!!!!

Im absoutly crying right now....crying....

FR's watching JU and saying...

"DONKEY!" :)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:25:20 PM
Quote from: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:23:22 PM
                                    NU       IC
FIRST DOWNS...................        8       22
RUSHES-YARDS (NET)............    36-40   42-172


Looks like whoever had a great day at the RG spot.  


cstate will be terrified if your brother is half the lineman you were......
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:26:33 PM
lets talk some football now ... this poor kid
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 18, 2008, 08:27:00 PM
I'm way too late to this... have at it boys.

What is it about the playoffs that brings out the new posters (usually coaches, players, and relatives)?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:27:56 PM
Well Didn't Cortland's QB just show up on the NJAC page an hour ago?  This is too much. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 08:28:34 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:27:56 PM
Well Didn't Cortland's QB just show up on the NJAC page an hour ago?  This is too much. 

Exactly.  Well the last name did anyway.  These two might actually meet each other!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:28:53 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:27:56 PM
Well Didn't Cortland's QB just show up on the NJAC page an hour ago?  This is too much. 

That had to be a family member.  Mac would lose it especially after the assistant coach fiasco before Cortaca a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:29:12 PM
did he... we should have ethan and him talk smack agaisnt each other on the boards
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:29:33 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:27:56 PM
Well Didn't Cortland's QB just show up on the NJAC page an hour ago?  This is too much. 

All these other conferences are obviously jealous of "In the HuddLLe" and desire their 15 minutes of fame through other means.

[/sarcasm off]
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 08:29:39 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:23:43 PM
Papa Yosh?  
whose that ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:30:19 PM
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If he is Shrek would that make Demarco......
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 18, 2008, 08:30:54 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 18, 2008, 08:29:39 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:23:43 PM
Papa Yosh?  
whose that ?

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fyoshi.2yr.net%2Fpics%2Fmario-party-advance-yoshi2.jpg&hash=a425eea7349067322c0e1beffd0ccca515c68a72)


?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:31:05 PM
Quote from: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:30:19 PM
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If he is Shrek would that make Demarco......

OH NO YOU DIDN'T!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 08:32:11 PM
 OH no , Lew is drinking his mountain dew , I can feel this coming
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:32:41 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 18, 2008, 08:29:39 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:23:43 PM
Papa Yosh?  
whose that ?

I don't know that's what you called yourself when you were feverishly telling Shrek to get off the board.  
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:33:04 PM
cstate that is alow blow to demarco... what did he do to you?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 08:33:15 PM
 check out Lew doggs Karma
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:33:34 PM
I'm just thankful that we don't have an East Region Independent Team PP.  Otherwise, Husson would've been smack-talking by now, with RS81 becoming their ringleader.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:34:11 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:33:04 PM
cstate that is alow blow to demarco... what did he do to you?

As one person tries to have morals...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:34:23 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:33:04 PM
cstate that is alow blow to demarco... what did he do to you?

No more then when the Bombers went after that Fisher QB.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 08:34:50 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 08:12:11 PM
NLNG give this kid a ms will ya?
JU ask me to
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:35:26 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:33:04 PM
cstate that is alow blow to demarco... what did he do to you?

Hey Boxer,

Is it lonely up there on your pedestal?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:35:38 PM
Quote from: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:34:23 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:33:04 PM
cstate that is alow blow to demarco... what did he do to you?

No more then when the Bombers went after that Fisher QB.

Yeah but did you see him?  It was impossible not to.  
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:36:19 PM
Meanwhile Okma's slipped out the backdoor! 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:36:25 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:35:38 PM
Quote from: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:34:23 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:33:04 PM
cstate that is alow blow to demarco... what did he do to you?

No more then when the Bombers went after that Fisher QB.

Yeah but did you see him?  It was impossible not to.  


Yea, they shoulda made that kid wear his helmet 24/7.  With the black visor.  
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:36:57 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:36:19 PM
Meanwhile Okma's slipped out the backdoor! 

Was that the guy with a paper bag over his head?   D'OH!!! 

[Edit:  He's back.  Paper bag musta been the Cortland QB.]
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:37:16 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:36:19 PM
Meanwhile Okma's slipped out the backdoor! 

I had no intention of driving from Albany to Cortland but now I am seriously considering it.  Anybody support me giving him a similiar sign that I gave my buddy from IC a couple of years back?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:38:37 PM
I suppose we shouldn't talk about the former Fisher QB and Backdoors at the same time..
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:38:43 PM
it is ... it is very lonely up here
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:40:27 PM
Ok seriously.  Cstate is out for the night.  Cstate prays that if some knucklehead player wants to expose himself then he waits until tomorrow to do it.  These are just too funny to miss.  Great find pg04.  Also, I wonder what Miles family member I outed.  Had to be a male with the decent stats. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 08:41:27 PM
 I'm sitting right next to you , look to your left.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:41:53 PM
Now for the nail in the coffin:

http://www.proctoracademy.org/az/athletics/alumni/

Click on "Football" to see the graduation year of the brother.  He wouldn't have been '06 at Norwich.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:43:18 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:41:53 PM
No for the nail in the coffin:

http://www.proctoracademy.org/az/athletics/alumni/

Click on "Football" to see the graduation year of the brother.  He wouldn't have been '06 at Norwich.

Wait, I can't leave yet?? 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:43:25 PM
The player now is Ethan, the brother is Zach.  The times match up.  
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:43:51 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:43:25 PM
The player now is Ethan, the brother is Zach.  The times match up.  

They're both there.  Look for Zach.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: JQV on November 18, 2008, 08:44:08 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:36:19 PM
Meanwhile Okma's slipped out the backdoor! 

They'll be right back.  Zack is busy giving Ethan a detailed description of what the Bomber DLineman look like when they are laying on top of a Quarterback.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:44:16 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:43:51 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:43:25 PM
The player now is Ethan, the brother is Zach.  The times match up.  

They're both there.  Look for Zach.

Maybe he just got cut.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:44:59 PM
Zach graduated in 2004 which means he could play in 2005 at Norwich.  
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:45:15 PM
Quote from: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:44:16 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:43:51 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:43:25 PM
The player now is Ethan, the brother is Zach.  The times match up.  

They're both there.  Look for Zach.

Maybe he just got cut.

Yeah -- just like Garcon.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:45:36 PM
I need clairification and fiveupfront is still here!!  Come on Zachan (Like Bennifer or Cortaca) Okma.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:45:43 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:44:59 PM
Zach graduated in 2004 which means he could play in 2005 at Norwich.  

You're beng dense -- he said that the brother was Norwich '06.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 18, 2008, 08:46:19 PM
Was anyone else upset when they clicked on proctor academy and didn't see this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rURf_oYp4eE
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:46:46 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:45:43 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:44:59 PM
Zach graduated in 2004 which means he could play in 2005 at Norwich.  

You're beng dense -- he said that the brother was Norwich '06.

He couldn't graduate in 2 years?   ;)  Perhaps Ethan just doesn't know much about his brother.  
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:47:36 PM
Oh come on Okma, reply! Can we get a modified "I Believe" to get Okma going?   
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:47:51 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:46:46 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:45:43 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:44:59 PM
Zach graduated in 2004 which means he could play in 2005 at Norwich.  

You're beng dense -- he said that the brother was Norwich '06.

He couldn't graduate in 2 years?   ;)  Perhaps Ethan just doesn't know much about his brother.  

Exactly.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:49:04 PM
Quote from: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:47:36 PM
Oh come on Okma, reply! Can we get a modified "I Believe" to get Okma going?   

YES HE CAN!  YES HE CAN!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:50:12 PM
this is to much... cstate wait till ethan sticks it to your boys
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:50:34 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:49:04 PM
Quote from: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:47:36 PM
Oh come on Okma, reply! Can we get a modified "I Believe" to get Okma going?   

YES HE CAN!  YES HE CAN!


I meant the IC chant but Obama can work here. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:50:56 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:47:51 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:46:46 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:45:43 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:44:59 PM
Zach graduated in 2004 which means he could play in 2005 at Norwich.  

You're beng dense -- he said that the brother was Norwich '06.

He couldn't graduate in 2 years?   ;)  Perhaps Ethan just doesn't know much about his brother.  


Exactly.

I think you've broken the case wide open!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 08:51:30 PM
                                 NLNG

                              has spoken
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:51:43 PM
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthumb10.webshots.net%2Ft%2F55%2F755%2F7%2F1%2F79%2F2248701790053437970CDFzYO_th.jpg&hash=d24c0addc9f3c80335785844ffff92e2754f6ec7) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2248701790053437970CDFzYO)

OKMA! OKMA! OKMA! OKMA! OKMA! OKMA!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:52:08 PM
Everyone shut up! NLNG HAS SPOKEN!!! :D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 18, 2008, 08:53:38 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 18, 2008, 08:51:30 PM
                                 NLNG

                              has spoken

Do you have turrets or something because you say the most random off the wall things that are completely irrelevant to any discussion that is taking place?

****BALLS....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 08:53:47 PM
 HOMA..... HOMA....HOMA....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 08:54:46 PM
 hows that one ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 18, 2008, 08:55:23 PM
Okma is clearly not going to respond.  I am out for the night.  It will be tough to sleep with the thoughts of waking up and checking these boards.  Only God knows what I will find.  
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:55:35 PM
NLNG your off the reservation buddy... whats going on ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:55:49 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:52:08 PM
Everyone shut up! NLNG HAS SPOKEN!!! :D

Normally I do -- But not due to his authoritah... More like because I can't understand a damned thing he says!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 08:56:20 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 18, 2008, 08:34:50 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 08:12:11 PM
NLNG give this kid a ms will ya?
JU ask me to
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 08:56:56 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 08:55:49 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 08:52:08 PM
Everyone shut up! NLNG HAS SPOKEN!!! :D

Normally I do -- But not due to his authoritah... More like because I can't understand a damned thing he says!
me either !
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:57:14 PM
PSU 21- Csu 18
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 18, 2008, 08:59:38 PM
hey cstate19!!
is it true that cortland's offense is 1 dimensional  :o

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 08:59:49 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:55:35 PM
NLNG your off the reservation buddy... whats going on ?

JU asked me to shut the Psu kid up, I sent a message ,which few saw because I deleted it after I posted it . therefore NLNG has spoken
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 09:01:32 PM
 PG04 saw it , you missed it
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 09:02:45 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2008, 08:55:35 PM
NLNG your off the reservation buddy... whats going on ?

Hey "X" talk about moving the board along, page 161
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 18, 2008, 09:03:16 PM
yay papa yosh...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 09:03:53 PM
I've been trying to learn the meaning of that but have been unsuccessful. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 09:06:05 PM
NEFCPP might well double because of this fiasco tonight.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 18, 2008, 09:06:22 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 09:03:53 PM
I've been trying to learn the meaning of that but have been unsuccessful. 

Googling has gotten me no where as well...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 09:06:42 PM
 I erased it in a hurry
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 09:07:40 PM
 what are you looking for ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dingle40 on November 18, 2008, 09:07:55 PM
A. plymouth wins a big one this saturday. 24-8
B. only good player ever in cortland history was kevin james.
C. cortland fans are snoodlers.


hi nlng- wont be making it this saturday..again updates will be needed due to work.  
bye now
papa yosh!!!!!

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 18, 2008, 09:08:31 PM
Hi, folks ... I just want to remind people that I can see the IP address of all posts and can very easily trace it back to a campus or a cable system or DSL group. So ... just want to say that out loud.

Thanks.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 09:09:52 PM
And that pretty much seals the case....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 09:10:22 PM
 Oh no Pat don't tell them where I live , now I'm scared .
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 18, 2008, 09:11:08 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 18, 2008, 09:08:31 PM
Hi, folks ... I just want to remind people that I can see the IP address of all posts and can very easily trace it back to a campus or a cable system or DSL group. So ... just want to say that out loud.

Thanks.

No seriously, I'm posting from my brother's computer on campus (I just came to visit)... with an email address that would suggest that I am, in fact, my brother. But it's all a coincidence.

The Commish is wise... AMEN!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 09:12:07 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 18, 2008, 09:10:22 PM
Oh no Pat don't tell them where I live , now I'm scared .

We already know...

In a van...

DOWN BY THE RIVER.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 09:12:13 PM
 That was pretty good we drove this forum 12 pages in 2 hours
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 09:12:33 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 18, 2008, 09:08:31 PM
Hi, folks ... I just want to remind people that I can see the IP address of all posts and can very easily trace it back to a campus or a cable system or DSL group. So ... just want to say that out loud.

Thanks.

You might want to post that on the NJAC board too.. LOL. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 09:15:38 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 09:12:33 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 18, 2008, 09:08:31 PM
Hi, folks ... I just want to remind people that I can see the IP address of all posts and can very easily trace it back to a campus or a cable system or DSL group. So ... just want to say that out loud.

Thanks.

You might want to post that on the NJAC board too.. LOL. 

...and on NLNG's van.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 18, 2008, 09:15:49 PM
 Ok good night all, don't talk about me when I'm gone . We'll talk football tommorrow night instead of trash talking , ok a little trash taking .
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 18, 2008, 09:16:48 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 09:12:33 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 18, 2008, 09:08:31 PM
Hi, folks ... I just want to remind people that I can see the IP address of all posts and can very easily trace it back to a campus or a cable system or DSL group. So ... just want to say that out loud.

Thanks.

You might want to post that on the NJAC board too.. LOL. 

That NJAC post is off campus.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 09:17:40 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 18, 2008, 09:16:48 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 09:12:33 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 18, 2008, 09:08:31 PM
Hi, folks ... I just want to remind people that I can see the IP address of all posts and can very easily trace it back to a campus or a cable system or DSL group. So ... just want to say that out loud.

Thanks.

You might want to post that on the NJAC board too.. LOL. 

That NJAC post is off campus.

Starbucks, again??? :)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 09:18:29 PM
Nonetheless whoever that person is gave themselves away as a huge Miles Fan.  I'm thinking the father. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 09:19:52 PM
Maybe I should change my alias to be Papa Yosh to confuse people. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 18, 2008, 09:22:54 PM
hey nlng!!
you know of anyone going thru londonderry or surrounding area on the way to the game??    ???

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 09:24:00 PM
Interesting.. Using these projections I got Cortland win 25 out of 25 games versus Plymouth State with a score of 41-12

http://www.nationalsportsrankings.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_oneonone

Ithaca beats Curry 25 out of 25 times too with a score of 49-7
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dingle40 on November 18, 2008, 09:35:10 PM
the prediction page is getting rediculous... let me guess... Do you play madden every sunday morning to find out who to bet on? let me know if I should take the pats this weekend...thanks
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2008, 09:39:14 PM
It may be ridiculous, but it still picks Cortland 25 out of 25 times with wide margin of victories.  I realize that you can't equate numbers to what's out on the field since injuries, weather, and heart all come into play.  As far as talent goes, though, I think you may be beaten. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dingle40 on November 18, 2008, 09:42:36 PM
madden says the pats won the super bowl last year 25 out of 25 times... look what happened.
ps -okmas the man!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 10:13:16 PM
Quote from: dingle40 on November 18, 2008, 09:42:36 PM
madden says the pats won the super bowl last year 25 out of 25 times... look what happened.
ps -okmas the man!

Ummmm... Which Okma are we praising exactly?  :)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on November 18, 2008, 11:57:39 PM
Wow...I hope the game Saturday is as entertaining as you all are.  Too late to participate but a great read.

Safe travels and good luck to all Sat.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dewcrew88 on November 19, 2008, 03:19:32 AM
Quote from: 'gro on November 18, 2008, 09:11:08 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 18, 2008, 09:08:31 PM
Hi, folks ... I just want to remind people that I can see the IP address of all posts and can very easily trace it back to a campus or a cable system or DSL group. So ... just want to say that out loud.

Thanks.

No seriously, I'm posting from my brother's computer on campus (I just came to visit)... with an email address that would suggest that I am, in fact, my brother. But it's all a coincidence.

The Commish is wise... AMEN!!

I know it's really after the fact, but holy ish, gro.... that was terrific. Maybe I've see too many ML commericals?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 19, 2008, 06:42:18 AM
Just a memo to hopeful NEFC fans...

YOUR NOT PLAYING HARTWICK!!

These are real teams with real defenses with real size.  They're not a one man show, they're much more disciplined and much more bigger than Hartwick.  These games will end up much like the SJF/Curry game from last year.

IC 40-Curry 7
Cstate 45-PSU 7
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on November 19, 2008, 10:18:44 AM
Wow.... I don't post on here often but I'll check in on the NEFC board from time to time to see whats going on.  Let me just tell you I spent the better part of my morning at work reading pages 150 or so through 163.  You can't make that stuff up.  That may or may not be the most amusing reading I've done in months. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bombers798891 on November 19, 2008, 11:39:39 AM
Quote from: Upstate on November 19, 2008, 06:42:18 AM
Just a memo to hopeful NEFC fans...

YOUR NOT PLAYING HARTWICK!!

These are real teams with real defenses with real size.  They're not a one man show, they're much more disciplined and much more bigger than Hartwick.  These games will end up much like the SJF/Curry game from last year.

IC 40-Curry 7
Cstate 45-PSU 7

Additionally, you're not playing at home.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 19, 2008, 11:46:41 AM
Quote from: RockRB11 on November 19, 2008, 10:18:44 AM
Wow.... I don't post on here often but I'll check in on the NEFC board from time to time to see whats going on.  Let me just tell you I spent the better part of my morning at work reading pages 150 or so through 163.  You can't make that stuff up.  That may or may not be the most amusing reading I've done in months. 


Yea it was fun.  To bad it appears to be over.  I was looking forward to Okma blasting off more of his foot with the gun he was holding. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 19, 2008, 05:47:58 PM
hey cstate 19!!
believe me, it is far from over. are you still looking forward to seeing ithaca  get into the next round.  hafta go thru plymouth  8)

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 19, 2008, 06:13:04 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 19, 2008, 05:47:58 PM
hey cstate 19!!
believe me, it is far from over. are you still looking forward to seeing ithaca  get into the next round.  hafta go thru plymouth  8)

CB23

Going through PSU will basically be like water going through a sieve...

If Cortland doesn't win by 40 I'll be very disappointed...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: XREDDRAGON77 on November 19, 2008, 06:26:00 PM
So will I.....but a win is a win is a win!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 19, 2008, 07:05:56 PM
                                 I'm back
Let the fun begin!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 19, 2008, 07:12:47 PM
hey nlng!!
way to start page 164!!
did you read upstate calling plymouth a one man show?
so blind......
i don't know about you, but it's getting pretty boring reading about last year this and last year that... 2 years ago this and 3 years ago that.
it's time to wake up and smell the coffee   ;D

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 19, 2008, 07:17:20 PM
          that's alright with me, let him think that . We will have our hands full this week though, no if ands about it. Were not in Kansas anymore .
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 19, 2008, 07:56:24 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 19, 2008, 07:17:20 PM
          that's alright with me, let him think that . We will have our hands full this week though, no if ands about it. Were not in Kansas anymore .

Very well said glory! As much NEFC ****hammering that I do I really do feel this is the chance for the conference to make a stand and prove many of us wrong. If they do then they deserve all the credit in the world. If they don't, back to Kansas you go with ToTo's head sticking out of your ass! I wish both teams good luck even though I am rooting against them. Some said it on the LL board and I am beginning to agree...a little. Wins look good to the committee and if you win you are in.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 19, 2008, 08:09:12 PM
hey nlng!!
your are correct!!  we are not in kansas anymore. we off to the land of hallali
to see puff the red dragon and see them blow smoke out of thier butt   ;)

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on November 19, 2008, 08:49:59 PM
I don't know about the smoke but you can count on seeing the butts of guiliano, guaragno and hajnos all day as they are at the 50, the 40, the 30, the 20, the 10, TOUCHDOWN.  Butts are all you are going to see. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bombers798891 on November 19, 2008, 08:56:26 PM
Quote from: clandfan on November 19, 2008, 08:49:59 PM
I don't know about the smoke but you can count on seeing the butts of guiliano, guaragno and hajnos all day as they are at the 50, the 40, the 30, the 20, the 10, TOUCHDOWN.  Butts are all you are going to see. 

As wierd as this sounds, I always used to look through IC media guides and say that certain player names "sounded" like guys from Cortland when I saw them in Box Scores. Hanjos is one of them. Does that make me wierd?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on November 19, 2008, 08:59:46 PM
Ummm....ya
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 19, 2008, 09:11:23 PM
hey clandfan!!
actually, it will be the plymouth fans watching the red dragon butt chasing mack and company downfield.
one play at a time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   8)

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: XDragon59 on November 19, 2008, 09:15:56 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 19, 2008, 09:11:23 PM
hey clandfan!!
actually, it will be the plymouth fans watching the red dragon butt chasing mack and company downfield.
one play at a time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   8)

CB23

And hey, it will at least be a tie game in the first quarter for a few minutes...you can say you were in it for a while.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 19, 2008, 09:23:39 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 19, 2008, 07:12:47 PM
hey nlng!!
way to start page 164!!
did you read upstate calling plymouth a one man show?
so blind......
i don't know about you, but it's getting pretty boring reading about last year this and last year that... 2 years ago this and 3 years ago that.
it's time to wake up and smell the coffee   ;D

CB23

Show me the post where I said anything about PSU being a one man show...

I was talking about Hartwick...

I dont know whats worse, talking to Wick fans or talking to you and papa yosh...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bombers798891 on November 19, 2008, 09:24:19 PM
Quote from: XDragon59 on November 19, 2008, 09:15:56 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 19, 2008, 09:11:23 PM
hey clandfan!!
actually, it will be the plymouth fans watching the red dragon butt chasing mack and company downfield.
one play at a time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   8)

CB23

And hey, it will at least be a tie game in the first quarter for a few minutes...you can say you were in it for a while.

CB--

You should know, those Cortland kids know how to move. They showed great form while running 15 yards behind Kyle Crandall all day...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: XREDDRAGON77 on November 19, 2008, 09:26:38 PM
Watching that form running all afternoon sucked too.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: XDragon59 on November 19, 2008, 09:29:12 PM
Quote from: Bombers798891 on November 19, 2008, 09:24:19 PM
Quote from: XDragon59 on November 19, 2008, 09:15:56 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 19, 2008, 09:11:23 PM
hey clandfan!!
actually, it will be the plymouth fans watching the red dragon butt chasing mack and company downfield.
one play at a time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   8)

CB23

And hey, it will at least be a tie game in the first quarter for a few minutes...you can say you were in it for a while.

CB--

You should know, those Cortland kids know how to move. They showed great form while running 15 yards behind Kyle Crandall all day...

Don't encourage him, we will have to hear more about Goliath losing and Ivan Drago losing to Rocky.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 19, 2008, 09:33:34 PM
hey upstate!!
sorry for the miscue   ;)

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on November 19, 2008, 11:48:55 PM
Cortland will rip Plymouth State. No NEFC bias (see my posts earlier this week re: why I felt Curry was more deserving than Hartwick), but Cortland should be able to run all over them with Giulano. It's just a bad matchup for Plymouth State; their strengths (running) play right into the teeth of the Cortland defense. I don't see Plymouth State doing much on offense. Until last week, Cortland was the best team in the East. I can't see Plymouth State hanging with them.

Prediction:

Plymouth State   12
Cortland State    38

Book it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ElChupacabra83 on November 20, 2008, 12:25:57 AM
I can't wait for Currouth II next week!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dingle40 on November 20, 2008, 12:27:30 AM
just to let you know...size is not that big of a difference since the season is near the end and we all know the size might have dropped on those big FAATTTT linemen at cortland. i bet those fat bastards are around 220 now after the season. hope there knees are good for this weekend. BTW plymouths d is ranked 1st in most everything. good luck to kevin james and his crew.... see you in cortland saturday...

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dewcrew88 on November 20, 2008, 12:34:25 AM
Quote from: ElChupacabra83 on November 20, 2008, 12:25:57 AM
I can't wait for Currouth II next week!!!

Fail. But at least it was funny. A little.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: John McGraw on November 20, 2008, 12:47:04 AM
Quote from: dingle40 on November 20, 2008, 12:27:30 AM
just to let you know...size is not that big of a difference since the season is near the end and we all know the size might have dropped on those big FAATTTT linemen at cortland. i bet those fat bastards are around 220 now after the season. hope there knees are good for this weekend. BTW plymouths d is ranked 1st in most everything. good luck to kevin james and his crew.... see you in cortland saturday...



Ranked number one in what?

Rushing Defense - Mount Union (1st) 43.0ypg, Cortland 91.0ypg (27th), Plymouth 116.1ypg (64th)
Pass Defense - Salve Regina (1st) 110.89ypg, Plymouth State 153.36ypg (27th), Cortland 228.50ypg (212th)
Total Defense - Mount Union (1st) 158.90ypg, Plymouth State 268.45ypg (26th), Cortland (92nd) 319.50ypg
Scoring Defense - Mount Union (1st) 6.0ppg, Plymouth State 15.1ppg (23rd), Cortland (92nd) 21.3ppg

I won't list the rest of the categories, needless to say, Plymouth's defense does not lead the nation in anything. If you're going to talk smack, at least use the proper facts.

BTW, while Kevin James did attend Cortland, he's not a graduate.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: DanPadavona on November 20, 2008, 01:10:19 AM
All of the beer muscles on these NEFC boosters reminds me of when the West Conn boys used to tell Coleman that they'd meet him in Salem. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on November 20, 2008, 06:39:49 AM
Quote from: dingle40 on November 20, 2008, 12:27:30 AM
just to let you know...size is not that big of a difference since the season is near the end and we all know the size might have dropped on those big FAATTTT linemen at cortland. i bet those fat bastards are around 220 now after the season. hope there knees are good for this weekend. BTW plymouths d is ranked 1st in most everything. good luck to kevin james and his crew.... see you in cortland saturday...



You listen to your girlfriend too much......heyyyyyo!
Oh since you are dealing with a Plymouth education Ill spell it out for you: size really does matter!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on November 20, 2008, 08:16:20 AM
Quote from: Bombers798891 on November 19, 2008, 09:24:19 PM
Quote from: XDragon59 on November 19, 2008, 09:15:56 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 19, 2008, 09:11:23 PM
hey clandfan!!
actually, it will be the plymouth fans watching the red dragon butt chasing mack and company downfield.
one play at a time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   8)

CB23

And hey, it will at least be a tie game in the first quarter for a few minutes...you can say you were in it for a while.

CB--

You should know, those Cortland kids know how to move. They showed great form while running 15 yards behind Kyle Crandall all day...

That's pretty good  but it was more like one play and not all day.  Crandall has got some wheels though, I will give you that.  Fortunately for us he isn't in the lineup for Plymouth on Sat. and even then, it wouldn't matter unless he was in their backfield.

As for Plymouth defense...Stats are highly inflated with the competition they played.  It is easy when you are the best of the worst.

I have no doubt Plymouth St. will lead time of possession on Sat.  I  expect the play by play to look something like:
Ply. St:  3 and out, Cort. score, Ply. St. 3 and out, Cort. score, Ply. St:  3 and out, Cort. score, Ply. St. 3 and out, Cort. score, Ply. St:  3 and out, Cort. score, Ply. St. 3 and out, Cort. score, Ply. St:  3 and out, Cort. score, Ply. St. 3 and out, Cort. score

Go Red Dragons
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 20, 2008, 08:53:05 AM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on November 20, 2008, 06:39:49 AM
Quote from: dingle40 on November 20, 2008, 12:27:30 AM
just to let you know...size is not that big of a difference since the season is near the end and we all know the size might have dropped on those big FAATTTT linemen at cortland. i bet those fat bastards are around 220 now after the season. hope there knees are good for this weekend. BTW plymouths d is ranked 1st in most everything. good luck to kevin james and his crew.... see you in cortland saturday...



You listen to your girlfriend too much......heyyyyyo!
Oh since you are dealing with a Plymouth education Ill spell it out for you: size really does matter!

Even the bowflex commercials agree that size matters...

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 20, 2008, 08:57:12 AM
I actually think it's possible that Randolph-Macon is better than these two schools...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: XDragon59 on November 20, 2008, 08:57:29 AM
Quote from: dingle40 on November 20, 2008, 12:27:30 AM
just to let you know...size is not that big of a difference since the season is near the end and we all know the size might have dropped on those big FAATTTT linemen at cortland. i bet those fat bastards are around 220 now after the season. hope there knees are good for this weekend. BTW plymouths d is ranked 1st in most everything. good luck to kevin james and his crew.... see you in cortland saturday...



Haha, what a joke...if that is the case then your guys are about 185 lbs across the line right about now.

Cortland 52
Plymouth St. 0
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 20, 2008, 09:19:10 AM
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Ethan SAYS:  I will capture all Cortland Fwaggles!!!

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Come get me Ethan!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bombers798891 on November 20, 2008, 10:13:21 AM
Quote from: clandfan on November 20, 2008, 08:16:20 AM
Quote from: Bombers798891 on November 19, 2008, 09:24:19 PM
Quote from: XDragon59 on November 19, 2008, 09:15:56 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 19, 2008, 09:11:23 PM
hey clandfan!!
actually, it will be the plymouth fans watching the red dragon butt chasing mack and company downfield.
one play at a time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   8)

CB23

And hey, it will at least be a tie game in the first quarter for a few minutes...you can say you were in it for a while.

CB--

You should know, those Cortland kids know how to move. They showed great form while running 15 yards behind Kyle Crandall all day...

That's pretty good  but it was more like one play and not all day.  Crandall has got some wheels though, I will give you that.  Fortunately for us he isn't in the lineup for Plymouth on Sat. and even then, it wouldn't matter unless he was in their backfield.

As for Plymouth defense...Stats are highly inflated with the competition they played.  It is easy when you are the best of the worst.

I have no doubt Plymouth St. will lead time of possession on Sat.  I  expect the play by play to look something like:
Ply. St:  3 and out, Cort. score, Ply. St. 3 and out, Cort. score, Ply. St:  3 and out, Cort. score, Ply. St. 3 and out, Cort. score, Ply. St:  3 and out, Cort. score, Ply. St. 3 and out, Cort. score, Ply. St:  3 and out, Cort. score, Ply. St. 3 and out, Cort. score

Go Red Dragons

Didn't crandall burn some kid on a post corner on the opening drive?

But yeah, it was really that one play...but what a nice play it was
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on November 20, 2008, 10:35:47 AM
Quote from: Bombers798891 on November 20, 2008, 10:13:21 AM
Quote from: clandfan on November 20, 2008, 08:16:20 AM
Quote from: Bombers798891 on November 19, 2008, 09:24:19 PM
Quote from: XDragon59 on November 19, 2008, 09:15:56 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 19, 2008, 09:11:23 PM
hey clandfan!!
actually, it will be the plymouth fans watching the red dragon butt chasing mack and company downfield.
one play at a time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   8)

CB23

And hey, it will at least be a tie game in the first quarter for a few minutes...you can say you were in it for a while.

CB--

You should know, those Cortland kids know how to move. They showed great form while running 15 yards behind Kyle Crandall all day...

That's pretty good  but it was more like one play and not all day.  Crandall has got some wheels though, I will give you that.  Fortunately for us he isn't in the lineup for Plymouth on Sat. and even then, it wouldn't matter unless he was in their backfield.

As for Plymouth defense...Stats are highly inflated with the competition they played.  It is easy when you are the best of the worst.

I have no doubt Plymouth St. will lead time of possession on Sat.  I  expect the play by play to look something like:
Ply. St:  3 and out, Cort. score, Ply. St. 3 and out, Cort. score, Ply. St:  3 and out, Cort. score, Ply. St. 3 and out, Cort. score, Ply. St:  3 and out, Cort. score, Ply. St. 3 and out, Cort. score, Ply. St:  3 and out, Cort. score, Ply. St. 3 and out, Cort. score

Go Red Dragons

Didn't crandall burn some kid on a post corner on the opening drive?

But yeah, it was really that one play...but what a nice play it was
I forgot about that one...ya he burned the kid pretty bad.  ok....two plays.  the other one though really showed his speed.  That was a killer.   Fortunately, I don't think Plymouth has a Crandall.  As for their tailback...I don't think he has seen a run stopping defense like Cortland's all year.  I think this is a good matchup for Cortland.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on November 20, 2008, 10:42:52 AM
Or an OL like Cortland's or a back like Giuliano or a QB like Miles (assuming it's not the Cortaca Miles).   This could be really ugly for Plymouth State.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on November 20, 2008, 03:38:21 PM
LewDogg-great pics! haha


I am an NEFC fan, but I realize that the NEFC is not a real powerhouse conference. I was suprised that two teams got into the NCAA tournament

but hey...that's why they play the games
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 20, 2008, 06:16:59 PM
Ithica 35 Curry 14

PSU 21 Cortland 17

NEFC teams split.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 20, 2008, 06:21:44 PM
Quote from: 63Center on November 20, 2008, 06:16:59 PM
Ithica 35 Curry 14

PSU 21 Cortland 17

NEFC teams split.

Ithica is not playing Curry this weekend...

No chance in hell PSU wins let alone scores 21...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 20, 2008, 06:22:49 PM
Quote from: 63Center on November 20, 2008, 06:16:59 PM
Ithica 35 Curry 14

PSU 21 Cortland 17

NEFC teams split.

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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PrideFan1 on November 20, 2008, 06:26:43 PM
Quote from: 63Center on November 20, 2008, 06:16:59 PM
Ithica 35 Curry 14

PSU 21 Cortland 17

NEFC teams split.

these games wont even be close.

Ithaca 48 - Curry  3

Cortland 35 - PSU 7


Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 20, 2008, 06:35:33 PM
 Did I miss something here ? Is Springfield in the playoffs ?  No I don't think so, then SIT DOWN !!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 20, 2008, 06:52:17 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 20, 2008, 06:35:33 PM
Did I miss something here ? Is Springfield in the playoffs ?  No I don't think so, then SIT DOWN !!!!

Seriously that is the best you can come up with?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 20, 2008, 06:54:29 PM
hey upstate!!
cortland defense gave up an ave. of 21.3 points per game this past season...
it can happen   :o
please don't give us the more competitive opponent crap
it's the playoffs...anything can happen   :o

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 20, 2008, 07:07:22 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 20, 2008, 06:54:29 PM
hey upstate!!
cortland defense gave up an ave. of 21.3 points per game this past season...
it can happen   :o
please don't give us the more competitive opponent crap
it's the playoffs...anything can happen   :o

CB23

Each day you guys go on and on it makes me hate Hartwick all that much more....

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PrideFan1 on November 20, 2008, 07:14:14 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 20, 2008, 06:35:33 PM
Did I miss something here ? Is Springfield in the playoffs ?  No I don't think so, then SIT DOWN !!!!

no springfield did not make the playoffs. however, they did manhandle a cup cake mt. ida squad that beat plymouth state. if springfield was in the NEFC they would win almost every year, just like they did when they played in the freedom football conference. what good is a 9-1 record when you just get smacked in the first round year in and year out. with the exception of last years win vs hartwick.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PrideFan1 on November 20, 2008, 07:16:54 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 20, 2008, 06:54:29 PM
hey upstate!!
cortland defense gave up an ave. of 21.3 points per game this past season...
it can happen   :o
please don't give us the more competitive opponent crap
it's the playoffs...anything can happen   :o

CB23

anything can happen except plymouth and curry moving past the first round this year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 20, 2008, 07:19:00 PM
hey nlng!!
did you receive my message about the trip to the so-called never-never land?
???

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 20, 2008, 07:32:15 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 20, 2008, 07:19:00 PM
hey nlng!!
did you receive my message about the trip to the so-called never-never land?
???

CB23

Do us all a favor and keep your sex life private...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 20, 2008, 07:33:46 PM
I just learned that Plymouth St lost to ****ing Mt. IDA this year. I was looking through the capsules and couldn't believe my eyes. ****ing Mt. Ida. I see Toto's head sticking out of glory and CornholeButtnuggets 23's ass as we speak! Good luck fellas.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PrideFan1 on November 20, 2008, 07:38:59 PM
Quote from: Upstate on November 20, 2008, 07:32:15 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 20, 2008, 07:19:00 PM
hey nlng!!
did you receive my message about the trip to the so-called never-never land?
???

CB23

Do us all a favor and keep your sex life private...

haha agreed. i really cant to see this board after saturdays games.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 20, 2008, 08:07:11 PM
There will be no one left at Saturday at 3.  Won't see them again until next August
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 20, 2008, 08:15:35 PM
Do most of these posts occur if Hartwick wins vs Curry last year?

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 20, 2008, 08:24:10 PM
hey nlng!!
with all their talk about polls into pg04.........size matters.....butt nuggets...sex life   :o
stay near the ladies and have your back to the wall and whatever you do, if you drop your coffee cup don't bend over to pick it up. just get another one

ther will be plenty of plymouth fans cheering all day.
win or lose, we are a team, we don't make excuses or trash our own.
unlike cortland fans that get very critical..(venture back thru the replies)   ;D

CB23 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PrideFan1 on November 20, 2008, 08:35:24 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 20, 2008, 08:24:10 PM
hey nlng!!
with all their talk about polls into pg04.........size matters.....butt nuggets...sex life   :o
stay near the ladies and have your back to the wall and whatever you do, if you drop your coffee cup don't bend over to pick it up. just get another one

ther will be plenty of plymouth fans cheering all day.
win or lose, we are a team, we don't make excuses or trash our own.
unlike cortland fans that get very critical..(venture back thru the replies)   ;D

CB23 
i understand that you're a fan and i think its great that you're standing by you team...but wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which one fills up first. cortland's starters will be out of the game in the 3rd quarter.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 20, 2008, 08:40:27 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 20, 2008, 08:24:10 PM
hey nlng!!
with all their talk about polls into pg04.........size matters.....butt nuggets...sex life   :o
stay near the ladies and have your back to the wall and whatever you do, if you drop your coffee cup don't bend over to pick it up. just get another one

ther will be plenty of plymouth fans cheering all day.
win or lose, we are a team, we don't make excuses or trash our own.
unlike cortland fans that get very critical..(venture back thru the replies)   ;D

CB23 

Why can none of them post in a coherent manner???  Did FA91 go to one of these schools, by the way? 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: XDragon59 on November 20, 2008, 08:44:29 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 20, 2008, 06:54:29 PM
hey upstate!!
cortland defense gave up an ave. of 21.3 points per game this past season...
it can happen   :o
please don't give us the more competitive opponent crap
it's the playoffs...anything can happen   :o

CB23

Yeah against teams with a pulse, you guys won't sniff 21 points, you will be lucky to score.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 20, 2008, 08:48:42 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 20, 2008, 08:40:27 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 20, 2008, 08:24:10 PM
hey nlng!!
with all their talk about polls into pg04.........size matters.....butt nuggets...sex life   :o
stay near the ladies and have your back to the wall and whatever you do, if you drop your coffee cup don't bend over to pick it up. just get another one

ther will be plenty of plymouth fans cheering all day.
win or lose, we are a team, we don't make excuses or trash our own.
unlike cortland fans that get very critical..(venture back thru the replies)   ;D

CB23 

Why can none of them post in a coherent manner???  Did FA91 go to one of these schools, by the way? 

FA91 is light years ahead of these guys, its no comparison...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on November 20, 2008, 08:53:00 PM
Quote from: PrideFan1 on November 20, 2008, 08:35:24 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 20, 2008, 08:24:10 PM
hey nlng!!
with all their talk about polls into pg04.........size matters.....butt nuggets...sex life   :o
stay near the ladies and have your back to the wall and whatever you do, if you drop your coffee cup don't bend over to pick it up. just get another one

ther will be plenty of plymouth fans cheering all day.
win or lose, we are a team, we don't make excuses or trash our own.
unlike cortland fans that get very critical..(venture back thru the replies)   ;D

CB23 
i understand that you're a fan and i think its great that you're standing by you team...but wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which one fills up first. cortland's starters will be out of the game in the 3rd quarter.

Dude Springfield blew this year. Plymouth would smoke you. Leave the trash talking to fans of teams who didnt mail in the entire season.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 20, 2008, 08:56:27 PM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on November 20, 2008, 08:53:00 PM
Quote from: PrideFan1 on November 20, 2008, 08:35:24 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 20, 2008, 08:24:10 PM
hey nlng!!
with all their talk about polls into pg04.........size matters.....butt nuggets...sex life   :o
stay near the ladies and have your back to the wall and whatever you do, if you drop your coffee cup don't bend over to pick it up. just get another one

ther will be plenty of plymouth fans cheering all day.
win or lose, we are a team, we don't make excuses or trash our own.
unlike cortland fans that get very critical..(venture back thru the replies)   ;D

CB23 
i understand that you're a fan and i think its great that you're standing by you team...but wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which one fills up first. cortland's starters will be out of the game in the 3rd quarter.

Dude Springfield blew this year. Plymouth would smoke you. Leave the trash talking to fans of teams who didnt mail in the entire season.

We have one game to compare:  Mt. Ida.  Springfield beat them, PSU did not... that should tell you something..
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 20, 2008, 08:58:46 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 20, 2008, 08:56:27 PM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on November 20, 2008, 08:53:00 PM
Quote from: PrideFan1 on November 20, 2008, 08:35:24 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 20, 2008, 08:24:10 PM
hey nlng!!
with all their talk about polls into pg04.........size matters.....butt nuggets...sex life   :o
stay near the ladies and have your back to the wall and whatever you do, if you drop your coffee cup don't bend over to pick it up. just get another one

ther will be plenty of plymouth fans cheering all day.
win or lose, we are a team, we don't make excuses or trash our own.
unlike cortland fans that get very critical..(venture back thru the replies)   ;D

CB23 
i understand that you're a fan and i think its great that you're standing by you team...but wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which one fills up first. cortland's starters will be out of the game in the 3rd quarter.

Dude Springfield blew this year. Plymouth would smoke you. Leave the trash talking to fans of teams who didnt mail in the entire season.

We have one game to compare:  Mt. Ida.  Springfield beat them, PSU did not... that should tell you something..

Also Springfield beat SJF while Hartwick did not and Wick was 7-2...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PrideFan1 on November 20, 2008, 09:05:59 PM
Mt. Ida also got beat by E8 doormat norwich...a team that has lost 20 straight E8 games.

i found a picture of plymouth state after their NEFC championship game.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d104/mattcale3/retards.jpg
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 20, 2008, 09:08:47 PM
hey pridefan1!!
you're right no need for embarressing the cortland starters the whole game
:P

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PrideFan1 on November 20, 2008, 09:14:25 PM
Quote from: CB23 on November 20, 2008, 09:08:47 PM
hey pridefan1!!
you're right no need for embarressing the cortland starters the whole game
:P

CB23

im just wondering...are you a mother of a psu player or something? i just sense motherly qualities in your posts...ie: being completely delusional, no real knowledge of what you're writing about and continuous use of smiley faces.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ElChupacabra83 on November 20, 2008, 09:18:05 PM
Im rooting for the NEFC teams this week.
   Currys gunna rev it up.  OOOooo.....OOOooo.....OOOooo.....
   Plymouths gunna roar.  RRRrrrAAAaaa....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on November 20, 2008, 09:29:29 PM
Quote from: ElChupacabra83 on November 20, 2008, 09:18:05 PM
Im rooting for the NEFC teams this week.
   Currys gunna rev it up.  OOOooo.....OOOooo.....OOOooo.....
   Plymouths gunna roar.  RRRrrrAAAaaa....


Gayest. post. ever.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PrideFan1 on November 20, 2008, 09:35:10 PM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on November 20, 2008, 09:29:29 PM

Gayest. post. ever.

possibly the most intelligent post from an NEFC poster tonight. nice work hightower. if you only you could think that clearly while posting about this weekends games we could really be making some progress here.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:35:48 PM
we are ranked 3rd in the country for rushing, nuff said
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on November 20, 2008, 09:42:04 PM
Quote from: PrideFan1 on November 20, 2008, 09:35:10 PM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on November 20, 2008, 09:29:29 PM

Gayest. post. ever.

possibly the most intelligent post from an NEFC poster tonight. nice work hightower. if you only you could think that clearly while posting about this weekends games we could really be making some progress here.

Im a LLPP for life bro! Just a D3 NE guy in general. Believe me, I think Cortland will romp!
I think Jeff Mack just posted!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 20, 2008, 09:42:57 PM
hey pridefan1 !!
as knowledgeable as you seem to be about football, you show very poor judgement by sending that photo of special needs athletes.   >:(
not sure why it was even allowed to post  ???

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PrideFan1 on November 20, 2008, 09:43:18 PM
Quote from: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:35:48 PM
we are ranked 3rd in the country for rushing, nuff said

yea you sure do. congrats. how many ranked teams did you line up against this year? see what happens when you play a quality opponent on saturday.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on November 20, 2008, 09:43:41 PM
Quote from: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:35:48 PM
we are ranked 3rd in the country for rushing, nuff said

Mack do yourself a favor and delete your post and get out of here asap. it will turn ugly right quick.
i for 1 hate the njac and cortland and hope u win but your not going to accomplish anything in her bro!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:44:37 PM
yah we will wont we...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:45:23 PM
how do i delete???
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on November 20, 2008, 09:45:55 PM
HaHa gotta love the crossover crap talking. who has the better chance of winning from the NEFC? Curry or Plymouth?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on November 20, 2008, 09:46:27 PM
Quote from: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:44:37 PM
yah we will wont we...


dude unofficialy rule: when current players post, they get shredded apart up in these parts! Just get out!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on November 20, 2008, 09:46:56 PM
Why is Cortland in the NJAC anyway and not the E8 being so close to the rest of em?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on November 20, 2008, 09:47:20 PM
Quote from: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:45:23 PM
how do i delete???

click on the thing that says delete. do it and get off the boards. come back when your playing days are over.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ElChupacabra83 on November 20, 2008, 09:48:11 PM
Plymouth does they have the diesel O-Line!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:48:48 PM
heres some quick food for thought, cortland only beat rowan 28-27... rowan beat bridgewater state 24-14, maine maritime beat bridgewater state 42-32, we smashed maine maritime 44-16....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PrideFan1 on November 20, 2008, 09:49:33 PM
Quote from: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:48:48 PM
heres some quick food for thought, cortland only beat rowan 28-27... rowan beat bridgewater state 24-14, maine maritime beat bridgewater state 42-32, we smashed maine maritime 44-16....

bottom line...you lost to Mt. Ida.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: maxpower on November 20, 2008, 09:49:45 PM
Quote from: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:35:48 PM
we are ranked 3rd in the country for rushing, nuff said
Quote from: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:45:23 PM
how do i delete???


Greatest sequence of posts ever?

See you after your -0.1 yd avg on Saterday, 36.


PS Reno stop ruining our fun!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PrideFan1 on November 20, 2008, 09:51:39 PM
Quote from: maxpower on November 20, 2008, 09:49:45 PM
Quote from: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:35:48 PM
we are ranked 3rd in the country for rushing, nuff said
Quote from: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:45:23 PM
how do i delete???


Greatest sequence of posts ever?

See you after your -0.1 yd avg on Saterday, 36.


PS Reno stop ruining our fun!

I couldnt agree more. he's gonna be back peddling like that on saturday too.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:51:57 PM
id be the leading rusher in any conference.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on November 20, 2008, 09:52:41 PM
Quote from: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:48:48 PM
heres some quick food for thought, cortland only beat rowan 28-27... rowan beat bridgewater state 24-14, maine maritime beat bridgewater state 42-32, we smashed maine maritime 44-16....

Dude do you know anything about Rowan? They literally might have slept through that game
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PrideFan1 on November 20, 2008, 09:52:41 PM
Quote from: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:51:57 PM
id be the leading rusher in any conference.

you must be joking
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:54:01 PM
pride fan, are you insinuating that your actual a PRIDE fan? then mass is where you should be man...  idk if you know but its legal to marry there
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PrideFan1 on November 20, 2008, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:54:01 PM
pride fan, are you insinuating that your actual a PRIDE fan? then mass is where you should be man...  idk if you know but its legal to marry there

no doubt im a pride fan. but i'm also a realist. cortland is going to roll you guys. i'm happy that you're so open with your sexual preference. i am aware that gay marriage is legal in mass. i also think that you and your life partner should take your time...marriage is a big step.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on November 20, 2008, 09:57:44 PM
Quote from: PrideFan1 on November 20, 2008, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:54:01 PM
pride fan, are you insinuating that your actual a PRIDE fan? then mass is where you should be man...  idk if you know but its legal to marry there

no doubt im a pride fan. but i'm also a realist. cortland is going to roll you guys. i'm happy that you're so open with your sexual preference. i am aware that gay marriage is legal in mass. i also think that you and your life partner should take your time...marriage is a big step.


The guru is going to whack these posts faster than Mount Union is going to put away Randolph Macon!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 20, 2008, 09:59:25 PM
hey 36fortd !!
this is CB23!!
any carpools leaving from milford?!??!?!?!
any chance of them having any room    ;D

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: maxpower on November 20, 2008, 10:00:02 PM
All right mr. "cantstopthemack@yahoo.com". Nice work. Not only are you a player posting on here, you're a senior captain. I guess that shows what kind of leadership we see in the Plymouth State locker room. I wonder if there will actually be a vote not to come back out at halftime on Saturday?

Oh, and by the way:

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fathletics.plymouth.edu%2Fsports%2Ffball%2F2008-09%2Fimages%2FMack.jpg&hash=fa8800268cb92b96140e9fe341a770708017605c)


Spiking with gel only delays the inevitable, man. Two words: ro-gaine.


And Cortland *will* stop the "mack":

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.2theadvocate.com%2Fimages%2Ftruck%2Baccident%2B061708.jpg&hash=723709edcb470749a0d5d97b22e52499324b4e47)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PrideFan1 on November 20, 2008, 10:02:43 PM
nice post max. what are these players thinking? flexing muscles on message boards doesnt give you a better chance on saturdays
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 20, 2008, 10:06:24 PM
Quote from: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:48:48 PM
heres some quick food for thought, cortland only beat rowan 28-27... rowan beat bridgewater state 24-14, maine maritime beat bridgewater state 42-32, we smashed maine maritime 44-16....

And monkeys flew out of my azz last night.  So what's your point?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: maxpower on November 20, 2008, 10:07:50 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 20, 2008, 10:06:24 PM
Quote from: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:48:48 PM
heres some quick food for thought, cortland only beat rowan 28-27... rowan beat bridgewater state 24-14, maine maritime beat bridgewater state 42-32, we smashed maine maritime 44-16....

And monkeys flew out of my azz last night.  So what's your point?

I think he's trying to say he's related to Kevin Bacon somehow....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on November 20, 2008, 10:11:39 PM
Quote from: maxpower on November 20, 2008, 10:00:02 PM
All right mr. "cantstopthemack@yahoo.com". Nice work. Not only are you a player posting on here, you're a senior captain. I guess that shows what kind of leadership we see in the Plymouth State locker room. I wonder if there will actually be a vote not to come back out at halftime on Saturday?

Oh, and by the way:

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fathletics.plymouth.edu%2Fsports%2Ffball%2F2008-09%2Fimages%2FMack.jpg&hash=fa8800268cb92b96140e9fe341a770708017605c)


Spiking with gel only delays the inevitable, man. Two words: ro-gaine.


And Cortland *will* stop the "mack":

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.2theadvocate.com%2Fimages%2Ftruck%2Baccident%2B061708.jpg&hash=723709edcb470749a0d5d97b22e52499324b4e47)

SWEET TAT, BROOOOOO!!!!!!!! Did you get that at the Cape last summer?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 20, 2008, 10:13:12 PM
It's funny to me... In 2006, I got a little ticked with Robby for making a fist-pumping comment to the Rochester newspaper regarding Arcidiacono before SJF took on Union.  However, in that situation:

A) It was a newspaper reporter asking for Robby's opinion; and

B) What he said wasn't really intended to get back to Union in that way.

Then I watch these kids from Plymouth State offer their unsolicited lines of BS on here -- kids, it ain't helping your cause one bit.  As I said in my selections in ATN, Cortland is running on fumes somewhat right now, based on their last three games.  You seriously need to learn when you're ahead of the game and shut up to maybe help make your hopes for the upset even remotely possible.  

And also, don't these schools have ramifications for players making unsolicited comments on message boards like this?!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 20, 2008, 10:14:53 PM
Life at Plymouth State:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZeTbNg9Nek

Check out 0:20 for Jeffrey Mack - Tribal!! Armband!! Tribal!! Armband!!

Seriously, who posts crap 2 days before a playoff game?? The cortland defense is going to be out for blood?

and is El Chupacabre83 the ANOTHER senior captain?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: maxpower on November 20, 2008, 10:15:50 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 20, 2008, 10:13:12 PM
And also, don't these schools have ramifications for players making unsolicited comments on message boards like this?!

You'd think so... after Upstate outed a Cortland assistant to his head coach, he was (I hear) severely disciplined, or at last browbeaten. I guess (Oh God, forgive me for saying this) Cortland is just a (gulp) classier organization than Plymouth State...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 20, 2008, 10:19:35 PM
Quote from: maxpower on November 20, 2008, 10:15:50 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 20, 2008, 10:13:12 PM
And also, don't these schools have ramifications for players making unsolicited comments on message boards like this?!

You'd think so... after Upstate outed a Cortland assistant to his head coach, he was (I hear) severely disciplined, or at last browbeaten. I guess (Oh God, forgive me for saying this) Cortland is just a (gulp) classier organization than Plymouth State...

More like Cortland and the rest "act like [they]'ve been there before."
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: maxpower on November 20, 2008, 10:25:17 PM
Quote from: 'gro on November 20, 2008, 10:14:53 PM
and is El Chupacabre83 the ANOTHER senior captain?

Could be:

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fathletics.plymouth.edu%2Fsports%2Ffball%2F2008-09%2Fimages%2FNicholson.jpg&hash=1943fc877759ec6b36dfcc1fc88072fe5dfe1f9a)


Hey Timmy, give your buddy "mack" some hair-growing lessons. And get ready for Cortland to wipe that grin off your face.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: XDragon59 on November 20, 2008, 10:27:19 PM
Quote from: ElChupacabra83 on November 20, 2008, 09:18:05 PM
Im rooting for the NEFC teams this week.
   Currys gunna rev it up.  OOOooo.....OOOooo.....OOOooo.....
   Plymouths gunna roar.  RRRrrrAAAaaa....

Wow it's amateur hour on this message board!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 20, 2008, 10:28:53 PM
Quote from: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:51:57 PM
id be the leading rusher in any conference.

Dood, you're not even the leading rusher in YOUR OWN CONFERENCE. Not in total yards, yards per game, or touchdowns.



RUSHING                 Team Cl  G  Att  Yds   Avg TD Yds/G Long
----------------------------------------------------------------
1. DeRon Brown......... MIT  JR 10  275 1816   6.6 22 181.6   81
2. Jim Bower........... MEM  JR 11  271 1698   6.3 25 154.4   85
3. J.T. Harold......... UMD  SR  9  193 1375   7.1 12 152.8   83
4. Jeff Mack........... PLY  SR 11  257 1679   6.5 20 152.6   66
5. Marlon Thorton...... FIT  SR  9  213 1252   5.9 10 139.1   56
6. Bruce Burley........ BSC  SR 10  160 1288   8.1 18 128.8   82
7. David Leach......... FRA  JR  9  203 1034   5.1 11 114.9   49
8. Rob LaRiviere-Tougas SRU  SO  9  196  976   5.0 11 108.4   70
9. Robert Morris....... NIC  SR  8  164  834   5.1  4 104.2   80
10.Will Earley......... WOR  JR 10  197  899   4.6  9  89.9   26
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 20, 2008, 10:29:13 PM
It almost makes me miss...


OKMA!!!!!!!!!!!!


[Edit:  Tell me I didn't just waste post #2,300 on this?!]
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: XDragon59 on November 20, 2008, 10:30:40 PM
Quote from: gobombers15 on November 20, 2008, 10:11:39 PM
Quote from: maxpower on November 20, 2008, 10:00:02 PM
All right mr. "cantstopthemack@yahoo.com". Nice work. Not only are you a player posting on here, you're a senior captain. I guess that shows what kind of leadership we see in the Plymouth State locker room. I wonder if there will actually be a vote not to come back out at halftime on Saturday?

Oh, and by the way:

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fathletics.plymouth.edu%2Fsports%2Ffball%2F2008-09%2Fimages%2FMack.jpg&hash=fa8800268cb92b96140e9fe341a770708017605c)


Spiking with gel only delays the inevitable, man. Two words: ro-gaine.


And Cortland *will* stop the "mack":

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.2theadvocate.com%2Fimages%2Ftruck%2Baccident%2B061708.jpg&hash=723709edcb470749a0d5d97b22e52499324b4e47)

SWEET TAT, BROOOOOO!!!!!!!! Did you get that at the Cape last summer?

I think he's going for the Randy Orton look.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: XDragon59 on November 20, 2008, 10:32:21 PM
I hope you guys can share a seat and get your stories straight on your miserable bus ride home Saturday night after your 52-0 pounding.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: maxpower on November 20, 2008, 10:32:50 PM
Quote from: 'gro on November 20, 2008, 10:28:53 PM
Quote from: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:51:57 PM
id be the leading rusher in any conference.

Dood, you're not even the leading rusher in YOUR OWN CONFERENCE.

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2008&rpt=III_playerrush&site=org

RUSHING                 Team Cl  G  Att  Yds   Avg TD Yds/G Long
----------------------------------------------------------------
1. DeRon Brown......... MIT  JR 10  275 1816   6.6 22 181.6   81
2. Jim Bower........... MEM  JR 11  271 1698   6.3 25 154.4   85
3. J.T. Harold......... UMD  SR  9  193 1375   7.1 12 152.8   83
4. Jeff Mack........... PLY  SR 11  257 1679   6.5 20 152.6   66
5. Marlon Thorton...... FIT  SR  9  213 1252   5.9 10 139.1   56
6. Bruce Burley........ BSC  SR 10  160 1288   8.1 18 128.8   82
7. David Leach......... FRA  JR  9  203 1034   5.1 11 114.9   49
8. Rob LaRiviere-Tougas SRU  SO  9  196  976   5.0 11 108.4   70
9. Robert Morris....... NIC  SR  8  164  834   5.1  4 104.2   80
10.Will Earley......... WOR  JR 10  197  899   4.6  9  89.9   26



Well, he means if he played for a halfway decent team. Way to throw your teammates under the bus, Mr. Senior Captain.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on November 20, 2008, 10:33:52 PM
Nicholson, I see you lurking. Come play. You're a hack tight-end, chupacabra.

I didn't realize Plymouth lost to Mt. Ida by 17. I'd like to revise my prediction from 38-12 to 60-12, Cortland.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 20, 2008, 10:34:17 PM
Next up from PSU players and fans:

A whole explanation that the posts and accounts are really being set up by crafty Cortland players and fans -- to bolster the Cortland focus for Saturday.  PSU players are being unfairly implicated, and THIS MUST STOP.




(Just saving all of us from having another six pages of arguments before it even starts.)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: maxpower on November 20, 2008, 10:35:51 PM
Mack probably WOULD be the leading rusher if he got any kind of blocking from his bull**** TE. Sometimes you get named captain... jus 'cuz yer a senior.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 20, 2008, 10:36:28 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 20, 2008, 10:34:17 PM
Next up from PSU players and fans:

A whole explanation that the posts and accounts are really being set up by crafty Cortland players and fans -- to bolster the Cortland focus for Saturday.  PSU players are being unfairly implicated, and THIS MUST STOP.




(Just saving all of us from having another six pages of arguments before it even starts.)

You know, that has happened before... can the guru clear the air on this one?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on November 20, 2008, 10:36:57 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 20, 2008, 10:34:17 PM
Next up from PSU players and fans:

A whole explanation that the posts and accounts are really being set up by crafty Cortland players and fans -- to bolster the Cortland focus for Saturday.  PSU players are being unfairly implicated, and THIS MUST STOP.




(Just saving all of us from having another six pages of arguments before it even starts.)

2 teams in the playoffs has definetly done wonders for the NEFCPP Page Count
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: maxpower on November 20, 2008, 10:38:00 PM
I doubt anyone but his dumb ace could have come up with the e-mail "cantstopthemack@yahoo.com". I've been wrong before though.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 20, 2008, 10:43:12 PM
I called in the big guns... Well, not big anymore since he shed those extra pounds, but still big in knowledge and Guru-ness...

[Edit:  There may be some baiting going on from former NEFC rival players.]
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on November 20, 2008, 10:50:37 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 20, 2008, 10:43:12 PM
I called in the big guns... Well, not big anymore since he shed those extra pounds, but still big in knowledge and Guru-ness...

[Edit:  There may be some baiting going on from former NEFC rival players.]

Or FFC, lets not forget Plymouth spent a decade playing in a real D3 conference......
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PrideFan1 on November 20, 2008, 10:51:12 PM
Quote from: maxpower on November 20, 2008, 10:38:00 PM
I doubt anyone but his dumb ace could have come up with the e-mail "cantstopthemack@yahoo.com". I've been wrong before though.

fitchburg rb marlon thorton's email was marlonstheman@yahoo.com
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 20, 2008, 10:54:22 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 20, 2008, 10:43:12 PM
I called in the big guns... Well, not big anymore since he shed those extra pounds, but still big in knowledge and Guru-ness...

[Edit:  There may be some baiting going on from former NEFC rival players.]

I'll put my Sex Panther bashing on hold, and go back to supporting the purveyors of the purple drank.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on November 20, 2008, 10:56:15 PM
Quote from: 'gro on November 20, 2008, 10:54:22 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 20, 2008, 10:43:12 PM
I called in the big guns... Well, not big anymore since he shed those extra pounds, but still big in knowledge and Guru-ness...

[Edit:  There may be some baiting going on from former NEFC rival players.]

I'll put my Sex Panther bashing on hold, and go back to supporting the purveyors of the purple drank.


Gro' didnt you play against Plymouth? Cortland and RPI are similar programs (RPI actually won the last meeting)....Can Plymouth compete with Cortland?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bombers798891 on November 20, 2008, 11:10:16 PM
Quote from: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:51:57 PM
id be the leading rusher in any conference.

Dude, grow up. The fact that you're even on here posting instead of concentrating on the game already lets us know all we need to about you and your team. You're going to lose to Cortland. They're better than you. Deal with it. You're only a good running team because you lack what any three year-old would consider to be an adequate passing game. It's not hard to rack up running yards when all you do is run.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 20, 2008, 11:15:27 PM
The "old" Plymouth State I knew (99-02) from the FFC was a E8/LL caliber program, and I know that they were pretty good in the 90's too... when they fell, they fell hard 1-28 in 3 years, ouch. I don't look at them like "here's another NEFC team about to get slaughtered in the playoffs" BUT, they are really 1 dimensional this year... the stats say they threw the ball ~70 times in 11 games.

Like Frank said, Cortland is wearing out. This is perfect timing for P-State. I think it will be "regular" game, not a blowout... Cortland still wins it.  They beat Rowan, Montclair, Kean, and Brockport this year... they have the talent.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 20, 2008, 11:44:33 PM
wowowoowowowo class and a night of a couple of beers with some classmates and I miss another PSU player on here??? thats terrible, i wish i was here for that,

the fact of the matter is this kid got off easy especially compared to past players and coaches who have shown up here.......i had absolutly no desire to go to this game but with each passing day I am really convincing myself that this is worth the trip.......

your right when you say that cortland coach who was stupid enough to get on here was severly disciplined, the PSU coach is either completely stupid or runs a extremely less talented version of "The Program"

as for my new buddy MacK.........i figured out who you really are

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JMOh-cul6M


Yea your the leading rusher.....i would be too if i played against 5 year olds
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 20, 2008, 11:46:54 PM
MUSCLE MILK!!!!!!!!.......HGH!!!!!!!!............PROTEIN!!!!!!!!!!!...............POWER BARS!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 20, 2008, 11:52:44 PM
OK, Cortland State fans... Having watched today's "Millionaire" on my DVR, I believe we have a chant for you this weekend whenever Mack has the ball...

During the 2008 Olympics, the Chinese would chant "Jia You!" (pronounced Jy-Yow).  The literal translation is "More oil!"  Obviously, Mack needs some more Grecian Formula in his hair with his helmet on.

Let's add some culture to the new stadium :)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 20, 2008, 11:57:14 PM
Quote from: 36fortd on November 20, 2008, 09:51:57 PM
id be the leading rusher in any conference.

Man I wish Ithaca was playing Plymouth St. this week.  Thats fantastic. 

You have to absoutly kidding me.  I hope this kid gets shredded on Sat.  I mean, the kid doesn't even have one of those "I think you guys are overlooking (insert NEFC team here)."  He goes right for the "I'd do (this and that)" kind of post!



Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 20, 2008, 11:59:22 PM
Im right before Thanksgiving and then finals week and Im sooooo close to wasting a weekend driving to this game.  If the QB posts tomorrow I am there.   
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 21, 2008, 12:01:36 AM
Quote from: cstate19 on November 20, 2008, 11:59:22 PM
Im right before Thanksgiving and then finals week and Im sooooo close to wasting a weekend driving to this game.  If the QB posts tomorrow I am there.   

What would he say?

"They won't let me throw the ball, but I'd be the best passer in ALL OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL if they did!"
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 21, 2008, 12:04:08 AM
he would say that occasionally they run a trick offense where he lines up under okma to confuse the defense.

in fact he might call that formations just for his own fun
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 21, 2008, 12:06:48 AM
Quote from: cstate19 on November 21, 2008, 12:04:08 AM
he would say that occasionally they run a trick offense where he lines up under okma to confuse the defense.

in fact he might call that formations just for his own fun

If he's lining up under Okma, he'd be primed for life after college as the cover art for this company:

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhomepage.ntlworld.com%2Four.demesne%2FDeb%2Fbisquick.bmp&hash=31c478d08ad38c38a3ead70f2135bf59dc7c240e)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: maxpower on November 21, 2008, 12:56:40 AM
I have a feeling after Saterday Cortland's defense will have their own nickname for him.....


(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F518ADtBZG-L._SS500_.jpg&hash=85e92136c38e8b5f953681cc3b0789e56fc2f1fb)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 21, 2008, 05:41:47 AM
 Damn I missed all the fun last night, way to roll those pages.

I can guarentee you that is not Jeff Mack posting, he's focused on the game this Saturday, not this foolish board. Only us and I mean us that don't have anything else to do other  than sit at our keyboard and type.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 21, 2008, 07:57:30 AM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 21, 2008, 05:41:47 AM
Damn I missed all the fun last night, way to roll those pages.

I can guarentee you that is not Jeff Mack posting, he's focused on the game this Saturday, not this foolish board. Only us and I mean us that don't have anything else to do other  than sit at our keyboard and type.

Just like Okma wasnt posting on here...

Dude, I was posting on here as a player and kept it under wraps for the most part.  You have to be a complete tool to get caught on here...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 21, 2008, 08:23:15 AM
Quote from: Upstate on November 21, 2008, 07:57:30 AM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 21, 2008, 05:41:47 AM
Damn I missed all the fun last night, way to roll those pages.

I can guarentee you that is not Jeff Mack posting, he's focused on the game this Saturday, not this foolish board. Only us and I mean us that don't have anything else to do other  than sit at our keyboard and type.

Just like Okma wasnt posting on here...

Dude, I was posting on here as a player and kept it under wraps for the most part.  You have to be a complete tool to get caught on here...

Why did I go to bed last night? :P
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 21, 2008, 08:24:48 AM
Quote from: maxpower on November 20, 2008, 10:00:02 PM
All right mr. "cantstopthemack@yahoo.com". Nice work. Not only are you a player posting on here, you're a senior captain. I guess that shows what kind of leadership we see in the Plymouth State locker room. I wonder if there will actually be a vote not to come back out at halftime on Saturday?

Oh, and by the way:

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fathletics.plymouth.edu%2Fsports%2Ffball%2F2008-09%2Fimages%2FMack.jpg&hash=fa8800268cb92b96140e9fe341a770708017605c)


Spiking with gel only delays the inevitable, man. Two words: ro-gaine.


And Cortland *will* stop the "mack":

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.2theadvocate.com%2Fimages%2Ftruck%2Baccident%2B061708.jpg&hash=723709edcb470749a0d5d97b22e52499324b4e47)

This will only get better on Saturday, if you can get better than this wonderful pic of pure intimidation and academic prowess! Good luck dude.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 21, 2008, 08:35:47 AM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 21, 2008, 05:41:47 AM
Damn I missed all the fun last night, way to roll those pages.

I can guarentee you that is not Jeff Mack posting, he's focused on the game this Saturday, not this foolish board. Only us and I mean us that don't have anything else to do other  than sit at our keyboard and type.

NLNG is right.  We don't know who this really is.  Lets see if someone else can find out for us....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eiKTp3VdE0
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 21, 2008, 09:10:14 AM
I thought the Guru was supposed to see where the posts were coming from... because if it really is #36 then it deserves recognition in the posting hall of shame.

hey, he's online right now, cue the music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB1D9wWxd2w
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 36fortd on November 21, 2008, 09:11:00 AM
nlnglory is right, i am not jeff mack... however i am a former player of the bogan division.. i did this to show what kind of scumbags are out there. for instance, max power.... yes this is a discussion board that players should have nothing to do with while in season, but the fact of the matter is that every coach and player in the conference reads these boards..maybe you guys should think twice before ripping on these student-athletes. i apologize to mack, for people making fun of his horrible tattoos.. but shame on all you who are as gullible as my 3 year old niece..plymouth st beating cortland does sound pretty good though...after all i have seen crazier things happen....curry  blows and shouldnt have gotten a bid
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 21, 2008, 09:14:37 AM
Quote from: 36fortd on November 21, 2008, 09:11:00 AM
nlnglory is right, i am not jeff mack... however i am a former player of the bogan division.. i did this to show what kind of scumbags are out there. for instance, max power.... yes this is a discussion board that players should have nothing to do with while in season, but the fact of the matter is that every coach and player in the conference reads these boards..maybe you guys should think twice before ripping on these student-athletes. i apologize to mack, for people making fun of his horrible tattoos.. but shame on all you who are as gullible as my 3 year old niece..plymouth st beating cortland does sound pretty good though...after all i have seen crazier things happen....curry  blows and shouldnt have gotten a bid

Are you his brother who played for Norwich in 05, but really likes his #, and had a few too many cold ones last night?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 21, 2008, 09:15:08 AM
Quote from: 36fortd on November 21, 2008, 09:11:00 AM
nlnglory is right, i am not jeff mack... however i am a former player of the bogan division.. i did this to show what kind of scumbags are out there. for instance, max power.... yes this is a discussion board that players should have nothing to do with while in season, but the fact of the matter is that every coach and player in the conference reads these boards..maybe you guys should think twice before ripping on these student-athletes. i apologize to mack, for people making fun of his horrible tattoos.. but shame on all you who are as gullible as my 3 year old niece..plymouth st beating cortland does sound pretty good though...after all i have seen crazier things happen....curry  blows and shouldnt have gotten a bid

The Guru can tell where your posting from, just a heads up.  He's so good he can track IP addresses and can tell if your at a PSU computer or not.  So if your from an opposing team and using his number/email address its a violation.  
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 36fortd on November 21, 2008, 09:19:23 AM
ha youll be happy or shall i say disappointed to find out that the ip address is nowhere near plymouth..i have no relation to him at all, i was/am/did make a point that you posters are immature and should think twice about your posts...the joke is on you fools...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: JQV on November 21, 2008, 09:22:14 AM
Quote from: 36fortd on November 21, 2008, 09:11:00 AMmaybe you guys should think twice before ripping on these student-athletes.

Should we also think twice before complimenting them?  What about before creating a website that covers their sport?

I am a former player too.  I held myself out for public attention by deciding to play high school or college basketball.  Get over yourself.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 21, 2008, 09:26:49 AM
Quote from: 36fortd on November 21, 2008, 09:19:23 AM
ha youll be happy or shall i say disappointed to find out that the ip address is nowhere near plymouth..i have no relation to him at all, i was/am/did make a point that you posters are immature and should think twice about your posts...the joke is on you fools...

Your the douche who used another persons identity and are now trying to come off all high and mighty...

joke is on you douche...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 36fortd on November 21, 2008, 09:29:41 AM
nope never said i was jeff mack, i used a number and a common last name, you douches made the assumption
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 21, 2008, 09:33:00 AM
Quote from: 36fortd on November 21, 2008, 09:29:41 AM
nope never said i was jeff mack, i used a number and a common last name, you douches made the assumption

You have 36 in your handle, you have mack in your email and you already said you'd be the leading rusher in any conference....

Not hard to do the math douche...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 36fortd on November 21, 2008, 09:34:32 AM
yah i left a nice little cookie trail for you.... ;D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 21, 2008, 09:37:31 AM
Is every poster from the NE retarded?

so far the NEFC is 3/3 with NLNG, CB, and 36....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 21, 2008, 09:53:09 AM
36forTD has been looking for work ever since he got fired from "to catch a predator"... impersonating people on the internet is a fun and exciting career.

What do you prefer: 13 y/o girls or 3rd tier conference running backs?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 21, 2008, 10:37:06 AM
Quote from: Upstate on November 21, 2008, 09:33:00 AM
Quote from: 36fortd on November 21, 2008, 09:29:41 AM
nope never said i was jeff mack, i used a number and a common last name, you douches made the assumption

You have 36 in your handle, you have mack in your email and you already said you'd be the leading rusher in any conference....

Not hard to do the math douche...

I actually don't think this Guy is Mack...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Senor RedTackle on November 21, 2008, 11:04:38 AM
...glad RT poked his head into the NEFC board...eeeesh

very high quality posting up here.....it pleases RT to see regulars from E8 and LL dropping knowledge up in this piece

what comes to mind when RT thinks "New England"
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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 21, 2008, 11:13:34 AM
Agreed, no -- it's clear from the other handle he also posted from from the same IP address that he's not.

And since that's a TOS violation, we can cut this pretender loose.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Senor RedTackle on November 21, 2008, 11:21:52 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 21, 2008, 11:13:34 AM
Agreed, no -- it's clear from the other handle he also posted from from the same IP address that he's not.

And since that's a TOS violation, we can cut this pretender loose.

nice work!!

BAM
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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on November 21, 2008, 11:29:35 AM
As an alum from the mid-late 90's, I am proud to see our PSU Panthers back in the playoffs and wish you guys the best of luck in Cortland. 

Does anyone know of any online streaming of the game via the Cortland State website, or local radio station?

As someone that just read through the last couple of day's worth of posts on here, my guess is that our RB isn't posting on here.  I'd figure that they would be traveling to Cortland while this clown is stirring up things on this message board.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on November 21, 2008, 11:30:34 AM
cortland / plymouth state weather forecast:  Gametime:  24 degrees / windchill 10, wind out the NNW 12 mph.  Snow showers with occasional snow sqaulls with significant accumulation in persistent snow bands.

Sounds like fun!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on November 21, 2008, 11:36:12 AM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on November 21, 2008, 11:29:35 AM
As an alum from the mid-late 90's, I am proud to see our PSU Panthers back in the playoffs and wish you guys the best of luck in Cortland. 

Does anyone know of any online streaming of the game via the Cortland State website, or local radio station?

As someone that just read through the last couple of day's worth of posts on here, my guess is that our RB isn't posting on here.  I'd figure that they would be traveling to Cortland while this clown is stirring up things on this message board.



http://www.cortlandreddragons.com/news/2008/11/21/FB_1121081521.aspx 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on November 21, 2008, 11:36:22 AM
Quote from: clandfan on November 21, 2008, 11:30:58 AM
http://www.cortlandreddragons.com/news/2008/11/21/FB_1121081521.aspx

I knew I could count on getting to listen to the game, thanks for sending the link.  As for the weather, it shouldn't be anything new to either of these teams. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RedHawk on November 21, 2008, 11:43:23 AM
Wow, I just read these posts!! What a joke, is that what is really going on up in the New England States?? If so, I think we can put aside the NJ jokes for a while lol....Good Luck Cortland rep the NJAC!! 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: maxpower on November 21, 2008, 12:18:46 PM
So is the other kid the TE or what? What's the story on elchupacabra?

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 21, 2008, 12:30:14 PM
Cstate19 is setting the over/under at yeards for "The Mack" at 71. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 21, 2008, 12:42:06 PM
hey upstate!
time for cortland to put on the tampooooooooooooooons!
hey cstate i will take the over

CB23

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on November 21, 2008, 12:49:02 PM
I'm sorry but Cortland's JV team would kick your ass.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on November 21, 2008, 01:03:42 PM
I understand that Cortland is considered an overwhelming favorite in tomorrow's game, but we all know as football fans that anything can happen.  That's why we play the games. 

It is going to be a dark and gloomy day in upstate NY if PSU is able to pull the game out.  From what you Cortland fans are posting, it seems like you are the team that has everything to lose here considering your "greatness".

We have the mojo of Joe Dudek. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 21, 2008, 01:10:42 PM
Quote from: clandfan on November 21, 2008, 12:49:02 PM
I'm sorry but Cortland's JV team would kick your ass.

Gro thinks all the blowout talk is going to be thrown out the window tomorrow... KMack has a pretty agreeable prediction on the triple take

Keith: Cortland State, 24-13
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on November 21, 2008, 01:32:14 PM
If we lose...it will be a gloomy day indeed.  I am hoping and predicting a blowout but will take a 1 pt victory and with it give Plymouth State all due respect.   I think Plymouth St. posters will find that  Cortlands 9-1 record with their strength of schedule carries a little more weight than a 10-1 record against Sisters of the Poor.  Proud of your championship you should be but your "all-that" bravado is false and unearned.  That being said....we don't play the game on paper and I wish you luck tomorrow.  Go Red Dragons!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on November 21, 2008, 01:34:03 PM
You can tell me Cortland is running on fumes until you're blue in the face, I'm not ready to forget a 24-7 loss to East doormat Mount Ida. I just can't do it. I've tried, it's impossible. You can't run the ball straight at Cortland and expect much success. PSU doesn't have the threat of throwing the ball (6.4 passes per game), thus cannot take advantage of Cortland's main weaknesses, their secondary and their lacking pass rush. Cortland will be putting 8 in the box all day and stopping Mack. MacNeil is a good enough coach to correct the mistakes of last weekend, most notably going away from Giulano when he was having success. That won't happen this weekend. I expect a monster game from him.

PSU stays close for a half, trailing 17-12 at the end of two quarters. Cortland pulls away in the 2nd half.

Plymouth State  12
Cortland State   38

Mack: 22 carries, 74 yards, TD
Giulano: 27 carries, 156 yards, 2 TD
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on November 21, 2008, 01:40:59 PM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on November 21, 2008, 01:03:42 PM
 

It is going to be a dark and gloomy day in upstate NY if PSU is able to pull the game out.  From what you Cortland fans are posting, it seems like you are the team that has everything to lose here considering your "greatness".

 

We do have everything to lose.  We lose..we go home.  Done. Season over.  NEFC can garner some respect with close games....NJAC and E8 have more to lose given Hartwick's loss last year.  I happen to think that they are MUCH stronger conferences than the NEFC and Cortland and Ithaca have to show it with convincing wins.  

Cortland 48-13
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on November 21, 2008, 01:48:12 PM
Quote from: gobombers15 on November 21, 2008, 01:34:03 PM
You can tell me Cortland is running on fumes until you're blue in the face, I'm not ready to forget a 24-7 loss to East doormat Mount Ida. I just can't do it. I've tried, it's impossible. You can't run the ball straight at Cortland and expect much success. PSU doesn't have the threat of throwing the ball (6.4 passes per game), thus cannot take advantage of Cortland's main weaknesses, their secondary and their lacking pass rush. Cortland will be putting 8 in the box all day and stopping Mack. MacNeil is a good enough coach to correct the mistakes of last weekend, most notably going away from Giulano when he was having success. That won't happen this weekend. I expect a monster game from him.

PSU stays close for a half, trailing 17-12 at the end of two quarters. Cortland pulls away in the 2nd half.

Plymouth State  12
Cortland State   38

Mack: 22 carries, 74 yards, TD
Giulano: 27 carries, 156 yards, 2 TD


What he said.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on November 21, 2008, 02:03:41 PM
Quote from: clandfan on November 21, 2008, 01:32:14 PM
If we lose...it will be a gloomy day indeed.  I am hoping and predicting a blowout but will take a 1 pt victory and with it give Plymouth State all due respect.   I think Plymouth St. posters will find that  Cortlands 9-1 record with their strength of schedule carries a little more weight than a 10-1 record against Sisters of the Poor.  Proud of your championship you should be but your "all-that" bravado is false and unearned.  That being said....we don't play the game on paper and I wish you luck tomorrow.  Go Red Dragons!

I was there during our FFC days as well as regularly playing the upstate NY and NJ teams.  I was also there when we would avoid playing NEFC teams that would drop our strength of schedule.  So I understand the difference between schedules.  Just don't write us off and sound like we don't even belong on the field with you. 

If we pull this off, be sure to not wait until you get us in next years NCAAs to come back to the NEFC board.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on November 21, 2008, 02:27:37 PM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on November 21, 2008, 02:03:41 PM


If we pull this off, be sure to not wait until you get us in next years NCAAs to come back to the NEFC board.



If you pull it off...you will deserve the props and you can beat your chest all you want.  Up to now it's all talk...tomorrow will you walk the walk or walk three and out?  Good luck.

Go Red Dragons
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 21, 2008, 03:04:13 PM
hey clandfan et all!!
you are right
trash talk is done
i wish cortland and plymouth a great game
they are all great football players and are to be congratulated for their excellent efforts this year      ;D

CB23

p.s.  much respect to all fans!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on November 21, 2008, 03:52:08 PM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on November 21, 2008, 01:03:42 PM
I understand that Cortland is considered an overwhelming favorite in tomorrow's game, but we all know as football fans that anything can happen.  That's why we play the games. 

It is going to be a dark and gloomy day in upstate NY if PSU is able to pull the game out.  From what you Cortland fans are posting, it seems like you are the team that has everything to lose here considering your "greatness".

We have the mojo of Joe Dudek. 


Back in '84, another Upstate NY team eliminated that Dudek led PSU juggetnaut by 2 TD's in the NCAA's....this one should be worse.
Title: WICB's Coverage for Curry
Post by: WICB Sports on November 21, 2008, 06:01:07 PM
Just wanted to let all you loyal followers of Division-III football know that WICB will be having ALL the action from this weekends Ithaca-Curry game.  Here is the schedule of the day's events:

11:30 a.m. Countdown to Kickoff breaks down all the match-ups, including Coach Welch cuts, stories on Kyle Crandall, Chris Gray and the East Region Update.

noon--All the live action

Immediatly Following the game--Call in to Bombers Post-game, 607-274-3217...give Mike Hibbard and Josh Canu your thoughts on the game as they break down the game.

here is the link to the site (NOTE: There is two ways to listen to the game on our site.  The first and most common method is to click the listen live button right on our site.  The Second, is a feature we have added so that everyone is able to tune in without the system every overfilling.  You can get to this option by clicking the football box on the top right portion of the screen, that will take you to Stretch Internet, where you hit listen, and you will be all set for the broadcast)

WICB- http://wicb.org/

VIC -http://vicradio.org/ (will also have the call)

Hope to see everyone at Butterfield tomorrow for what is sure to be a cold, cold game...

Enjoy the broadcast!

Sincerely,
Lee
WICB Sports Director
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 21, 2008, 07:58:49 PM
Quote from: cstate19 on November 21, 2008, 12:30:14 PM
Cstate19 is setting the over/under at yeards for "The Mack" at 71. 

I think it was clear from What Pat said that he wasn't that person...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 21, 2008, 11:04:15 PM
good luck to both Curry and Plymouth tomoro... i dont think Curry will come within 5 td's ... plymouth i hope all the best and hope they can pull out a win if not keep it close... the weather should play into Plymouth's favor hopefully slowing down Cortland
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 22, 2008, 03:24:39 AM
                      GAME DAY
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 22, 2008, 11:11:43 AM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 22, 2008, 03:24:39 AM
                      GAME DAY

Amen!

Good luck guys!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 22, 2008, 02:55:54 PM
Congratulations Curry!

I understand the cafeteria is serving DEM SPICY BOYZ Curry...Main ingredient is Bomber Crow!

Parity has hit the East Region.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 22, 2008, 02:57:07 PM
looking fowards to cortland vs the NEFC v2.0
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 22, 2008, 02:59:20 PM
Cortland is in the perfect situation.  Won a good game, Curry has the biggest win in the the history of their program and has to come back.  Way too much.

Cortland wins 35-17 next week.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 22, 2008, 02:59:47 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 22, 2008, 02:55:54 PM
Congratulations Curry!

I understand the cafeteria is serving DEM SPICY BOYZ Curry...Main ingredient is Bomber Crow!

Parity
Armageddon has hit the East Region.

More appropriate...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 22, 2008, 03:05:34 PM
Quote from: Upstate on November 22, 2008, 02:59:47 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 22, 2008, 02:55:54 PM
Congratulations Curry!

I understand the cafeteria is serving DEM SPICY BOYZ Curry...Main ingredient is Bomber Crow!

Parity
Armageddon has hit the East Region.

More appropriate...

:o

As a redstate conservative on these boards, I was not going to call attention to the fact that the Illinois Lottery Evening Pick 3 on Wednesday November 5th, 2008 was 6-6-6.

http://www.illinoislottery.com/subsections/History/Win2008.txt

This is serious stuff, a convergence of the cosmos! 

:D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 22, 2008, 03:20:31 PM
Hat goes off to Curry here! I know many of us will hear it from the new NEFC posters who have been all up in the shiznit as of late. They deserve to be happy and gloat a bit. I think the NEFC has proven itself more so than ever before today. The second place NEFC team went to Ithaca and knocked off the bombers. Curry has arrived, at least more so than many of us thought. Congrats to them period. They earned it today.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on November 22, 2008, 06:08:30 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 22, 2008, 03:20:31 PM
Hat goes off to Curry here! I know many of us will hear it from the new NEFC posters who have been all up in the shiznit as of late. They deserve to be happy and gloat a bit. I think the NEFC has proven itself more so than ever before today. The second place NEFC team went to Ithaca and knocked off the bombers. Curry has arrived, at least more so than many of us thought. Congrats to them period. They earned it today.


Awesome win for Curry/NEFC. This conference could be on the rise. Plymouth lost today but looking at their starters, theres a lot of young kids there.....and this program has won a lot in its past and could be back on the rise.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D O.C. on November 22, 2008, 06:24:47 PM
QuoteCurry will play Cortland State who defeated Plymouth State, 31-14.

and then face MOUNT UNION.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Senor RedTackle on November 22, 2008, 06:55:33 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 21, 2008, 11:04:15 PM
good luck to both Curry and Plymouth tomoro... i dont think Curry will come within 5 td's ...


lol
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 22, 2008, 09:26:21 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 22, 2008, 03:20:31 PM
Hat goes off to Curry here! I know many of us will hear it from the new NEFC posters who have been all up in the shiznit as of late. They deserve to be happy and gloat a bit. I think the NEFC has proven itself more so than ever before today. The second place NEFC team went to Ithaca and knocked off the bombers. Curry has arrived, at least more so than many of us thought. Congrats to them period. They earned it today.

Congrats Curry!

Congats Cortland ! Psu didn't look good today, couldn't get the ball moving on the ground, conditions were tuff. Cortland executed well in the air, there run game was shut down much like ours, footing was bad . I had icicles hanging from my stash, wind was howling, damn was it cold . I would love to see a rematch of these two teams next year . Cortland boys will tell you PSU are no creampuffs. We'll be back next year for sure, got a taste of it again.

Congrats to all PSU seniors!! you did a hell of a job these past 4 years to turn this program around and put PSU back on the map. You've been great teachers to the young group you leave behind, don't hang your head, you had a great season !!
                                          "nuff said"
                                             NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on November 22, 2008, 10:36:23 PM
Well Done PSU.  Props are deserved.  If you guys ever develop a consistent passing game I think you become more effective.  QB threw some good balls but not enough to stop us from stacking 9 and 10 guys in the box.  Your kids run hard.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mel on November 22, 2008, 11:41:44 PM
Clandfan.. that was a classy post. 

Congrats to Curry, its players and coaches.  Wonderful win.

Actually when you consider IC's record in the decade at home
I think 44-5, the win was massive and can not be brushed aside on any level.

Wonderful day for an entire league.  There are alot of players who care about football and their teams in the NEFC.  They have heard from many that they were not up to snuff... they can all take some pride in this day.

Cudos NEFC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: XDragon59 on November 23, 2008, 11:49:57 AM
Quote from: CB23 on November 21, 2008, 12:42:06 PM
hey upstate!
time for cortland to put on the tampooooooooooooooons!
hey cstate i will take the over

CB23



How's that humble pie tasting today?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 23, 2008, 04:17:07 PM

[/quote]

How's that humble pie tasting today?
[/quote]

Not bad, but Corltland by no means could do it 3 out of 4 . I think NEFC can play with anyone of the teams you put up, except  Mount Union . Hell you guys can't even give them a game . I would say there is parity in the East as we speak. That game yesterday was a good game, wind ,cold, snow & field conditions was the factor hands down. Talk to the coaching staff an set up a game early to mid season in New Hampshire . We'll show you how to tips cows . Besides that Good luck in your next game, great season !

                                      "nuff said "
                                        NLNG
                 
P.S. Happy Thanksgiving
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 23, 2008, 04:19:34 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 23, 2008, 04:17:07 PM



How's that humble pie tasting today?
[/quote]

Not bad, but Corltland by no means could do it 3 out of 4 . I think NEFC can play with anyone of the teams you put up, except Union . Hell you guys can't even give them a game . I would say there is parity in the East as we speak. That game yesterday was a good game, wind ,cold, snow & field conditions was the factor hands down. Talk to the coaching staff an set up a game early to mid season in New Hampshire . We'll show you how to tips cows . Besides that Good luck in your next game, great season !

                                      "nuff said "
                                        NLNG
                 
P.S. Happy Thanksgiving
[/quote]

easy there gunpowder.......

Mt. Union and Union are two different schools.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 23, 2008, 05:05:34 PM
By no means could they do it 3 out of 4? 


It was 31-6 in the 4th.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on November 23, 2008, 05:07:25 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 23, 2008, 04:19:34 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 23, 2008, 04:17:07 PM



How's that humble pie tasting today?

Not bad, but Corltland by no means could do it 3 out of 4 . I think NEFC can play with anyone of the teams you put up, except Union . Hell you guys can't even give them a game . I would say there is parity in the East as we speak. That game yesterday was a good game, wind ,cold, snow & field conditions was the factor hands down. Talk to the coaching staff an set up a game early to mid season in New Hampshire . We'll show you how to tips cows . Besides that Good luck in your next game, great season !

                                      "nuff said "
                                        NLNG
                 
P.S. Happy Thanksgiving
[/quote]

easy there gunpowder.......

Mt. Union and Union are two different schools.
[/quote]


He wrote Mount
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 23, 2008, 05:21:23 PM
Quote from: cstate19 on November 23, 2008, 05:05:34 PM
By no means could they do it 3 out of 4? 


It was 31-6 in the 4th.

Schedule it than "DIP SHIRT"
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 23, 2008, 06:05:45 PM
They can't... They only have one out of conference game and it's Always Ithaca...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on November 23, 2008, 07:12:44 PM
Also, fans and alumni dont schedule games. AD/Head Coaches do.

Look, Plymouth is going to get better. The Seniors/Juniors/Sophomores on this team were recrtuited when this program was in dire straits. If they were able to convince players good enough to get to the playoffs and at least earn some respect against a Cortland, imagine the level of kid they can start getting now that they are going 9-1 year in and year out. I think this program is a sleeping giant.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Btown999 on November 23, 2008, 07:34:05 PM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on November 23, 2008, 07:12:44 PM
Also, fans and alumni dont schedule games. AD/Head Coaches do.

Look, Plymouth is going to get better. The Seniors/Juniors/Sophomores on this team were recrtuited when this program was in dire straits. If they were able to convince players good enough to get to the playoffs and at least earn some respect against a Cortland, imagine the level of kid they can start getting now that they are going 9-1 year in and year out. I think this program is a sleeping giant.

Reno,

Plymouth has a high qulity guy in Coach Castonia.  He can recruit and will continue to recruit players for that program.  Let's look forward to the rebuilding of the NEFC for years to come.  To me it starts right now predominatley with Plymouth and Curry.  But let's hope the other schools that a a few players away continue to make progress like I saw this year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on November 23, 2008, 09:04:34 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 22, 2008, 09:26:21 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 22, 2008, 03:20:31 PM
Hat goes off to Curry here! I know many of us will hear it from the new NEFC posters who have been all up in the shiznit as of late. They deserve to be happy and gloat a bit. I think the NEFC has proven itself more so than ever before today. The second place NEFC team went to Ithaca and knocked off the bombers. Curry has arrived, at least more so than many of us thought. Congrats to them period. They earned it today.

Congrats Curry!

Congats Cortland ! Psu didn't look good today, couldn't get the ball moving on the ground, conditions were tuff. Cortland executed well in the air, there run game was shut down much like ours, footing was bad . I had icicles hanging from my stash, wind was howling, damn was it cold . I would love to see a rematch of these two teams next year . Cortland boys will tell you PSU are no creampuffs. We'll be back next year for sure, got a taste of it again.

Congrats to all PSU seniors!! you did a hell of a job these past 4 years to turn this program around and put PSU back on the map. You've been great teachers to the young group you leave behind, don't hang your head, you had a great season !!
                                          "nuff said"
                                             NLNG


+1
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 23, 2008, 09:09:14 PM
Seems like this board may be getting some more "action" in the coming years ;D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on November 23, 2008, 09:09:43 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 23, 2008, 04:17:07 PM


How's that humble pie tasting today?
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Not bad, but Corltland by no means could do it 3 out of 4 . I think NEFC can play with anyone of the teams you put up, except  Mount Union . Hell you guys can't even give them a game . I would say there is parity in the East as we speak. That game yesterday was a good game, wind ,cold, snow & field conditions was the factor hands down. Talk to the coaching staff an set up a game early to mid season in New Hampshire . We'll show you how to tips cows . Besides that Good luck in your next game, great season !

                                      "nuff said "
                                        NLNG
                 
P.S. Happy Thanksgiving
[/quote]

The 3 out of 4 thing gives you.....

-1

Even on the night there NLNG.


Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 24, 2008, 04:59:15 AM
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[/quote]

How's that humble pie tasting today?
[/quote]

Not bad, but Corltland by no means could do it 3 out of 4 . I think NEFC can play with anyone of the teams you put up, except  Mount Union . Hell you guys can't even give them a game . I would say there is parity in the East as we speak. That game yesterday was a good game, wind ,cold, snow & field conditions was the factor hands down. Talk to the coaching staff an set up a game early to mid season in New Hampshire . We'll show you how to tips cows . Besides that Good luck in your next game, great season !

                                      "nuff said "
                                        NLNG
                 
P.S. Happy Thanksgiving
[/quote]



-1

Even on the night there NLNG.



[/quote]

Don't much care bout the K anymore, sorry, I'm going bad a$$ from here on out. " HERE cOMES THE MUSHROOM STAMPS "
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 24, 2008, 10:45:20 AM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 24, 2008, 04:59:15 AM
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How's that humble pie tasting today?
[/quote]

Not bad, but Corltland by no means could do it 3 out of 4 . I think NEFC can play with anyone of the teams you put up, except  Mount Union . Hell you guys can't even give them a game . I would say there is parity in the East as we speak. That game yesterday was a good game, wind ,cold, snow & field conditions was the factor hands down. Talk to the coaching staff an set up a game early to mid season in New Hampshire . We'll show you how to tips cows . Besides that Good luck in your next game, great season !

                                      "nuff said "
                                        NLNG
                 
P.S. Happy Thanksgiving
[/quote]



-1

Even on the night there NLNG.



[/quote]

Don't much care bout the K anymore, sorry, I'm going bad a$$ from here on out. " HERE cOMES THE MUSHROOM STAMPS "
[/quote]

Just go easy dude, you have a reason to be excited but no one needs a hero. Believe me I ahve tried that apporoach, even recently and don't think it is very effective. Just be proud and enjoy yourself here. Look I am no longer swearing. Baby steps man:)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3playsforpassion on November 24, 2008, 10:58:09 AM
Quote from: Btown999 on November 23, 2008, 07:34:05 PM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on November 23, 2008, 07:12:44 PM
Also, fans and alumni dont schedule games. AD/Head Coaches do.

Look, Plymouth is going to get better. The Seniors/Juniors/Sophomores on this team were recrtuited when this program was in dire straits. If they were able to convince players good enough to get to the playoffs and at least earn some respect against a Cortland, imagine the level of kid they can start getting now that they are going 9-1 year in and year out. I think this program is a sleeping giant.

Reno,

Plymouth has a high qulity guy in Coach Castonia.  He can recruit and will continue to recruit players for that program.  Let's look forward to the rebuilding of the NEFC for years to come.  To me it starts right now predominatley with Plymouth and Curry.  But let's hope the other schools that a a few players away continue to make progress like I saw this year.

I agree, the Coach has turned Plymouth around over the past 5 years, and some of that credit goes to the Senior Class who have been through it with him, following his program.  

Everyone keeps pointing out that Plymouth lost to Mt. Ida.  Yes, they did, it was a bad game, almost like they weren't there to play.  They turned over the ball a million times, not something they normally do.  You can't judge a team on 1 game.  If so, why wouldn't you pick the game in which they held Curry to 10 points until the 4th quarter and convincingly beat a team that is now in the 2nd round of the playoffs.  They beat Curry this year, a major goal for the team, made it into the playoffs, for the 1st time in a while, and lost to a good team in Cortland.  All positives for the program, even the playoff loss, experience makes a program grow.

We could play the who beat who game all day long.  Ithaca beat Cortland, Curry Beat Ithaca, Plymouth Beat Curry, Cortland Beat Plymouth.  Plymouth had a strong team this year, could have used better passing game development throughout the season, because it was there when needed, just not used often enough.  I think that the program will just grow stronger with this past season, and they have a lot of young players that start for them already.

Curry has won the NEFC for 5 years, except this year, because Plymouth beat them.  They have been in the playoffs for the past 6 years.  They just got their first playoff win last year, and now their 2nd this year.  I think Plymouth is capable of doing the same thing if they keep building on their success.  Let's see where they are in 5 years, maybe consistently in the playoffs and maybe winning a game or two.  

Good luck to Curry this weekend!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on November 24, 2008, 12:31:48 PM
Congrats on a good season PSU!!!  It was great to see us reach the NCAAs again, and I look forward to seeing us back there again in 2009.  You seniors should be proud, and I hope your willingness to work hard and play harder trickles down to the underclassmen to carry on.

Good luck to Curry this weekend agaist Cortland, do the NEFC proud.  I guess it will be ok for a PSU guy to tak a sip of the "Purple Drank" just for this weekend ;)

I also would like to thank whoever posted the link for this past weekends game stream.  I was able to watch the game from a nice warm house, and the stream came through great.  The commentators weren't that bad either.  Maybe some of the Curry/NEFC fans can do the same for this weekends game. 

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 24, 2008, 12:58:32 PM
In the future you can always check our scoreboard page for live stats, audio and video links, too.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on November 24, 2008, 06:32:27 PM
Congrats to PSU Seniors on a good season and Best of luck to Curry this week. I think after looking at the stats from the Ithaca/Curry game and Cortland/PSU game this will be a very good matchup. Both teams have a good run stopping D, (cortland seems have a better run D) but their Secondary can be suspect which Curry and that Van Degesin kid can show. This should be a close game and possibly  Curry could bring in another road victory to the NEFC.

Any weigh ins? Pat what is your take?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on November 26, 2008, 09:18:32 AM
The NEFC Division teams have been announced for those that are interested.  Congrats to those that made the list.

http://www.newenglandfootballconference.com/awards/2008_All-Division.pdf
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on November 26, 2008, 04:15:49 PM
hey cortland fans!!
CB23 here to say congrats to you and good luck in the 2nd round. tough game to lose... :'(

just to let all to know, i will be eating my humble pie for dessert on turkey day
with a few cups of coffee to drown my sorrows. Don't worry!! I will still be around!!    ;D     for at least 2 more years...my son is a sophmore.

happy turkey day to all on d3boards.com 

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on November 26, 2008, 11:15:00 PM
Thank you CB.  Happy Thanksgiving and good luck to your son.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 27, 2008, 07:05:31 AM
                            Happy Thanksgiving
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 28, 2008, 11:21:11 AM
wow the board is dead... for the sake of arguing i believe Curry is going to put up a great game against Cortland... from the sounds of the last game Curry shot themselves in the foot countless times ... they failed to score inside Ithaca's red zone 3 times, they had numerous mistakes on special teams setting up Ithaca scores, they even had Crucial penalties at the worst times to bail out Ithaca. Put all of this together and you usually lose by 30 to a team like Ithaca, but some how Curry pulled it off

We all know Cortland can stop the run... that is their bread and butter and Plymouth was the best possible matchup for them... with that Plymouth still gave them a good game, if they played anyone else then MUC or Cortland i think the scores of the game would of favored Plymouth or been very close

Curry' s strength is passing the ball... Cortland's weakness from thier posters is the Pass D... with this said this should be a very close game... Curry's D has also been very stout for most of the year and they played well against Ithaca... if the D can give the same type of performace i think their could be a upset in the making, i truly believe that... If they penetrate the vulnerable secondary of Cortland enough they even be able to get some big runs mixed in and control the ball as well...

Prediction
Curry 28
Cortland 19

the winner will play MUC... so I'm also thinking for Curry's health that if they lose it might not be so bad in the end
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 28, 2008, 12:25:59 PM
Based on what I have read here, the Curry-Cortland game should be a good close game.  Cortland appears to be a running team and although Curry has a good defense, they lost to PSU who was also a good running team. However, Curry is a passing team and that appears to be Cortland's weak spot on D so overall it looks like it could be anyone's game.

Curry 21
Cortland 20

Good luck to Curry.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 28, 2008, 06:04:09 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 28, 2008, 11:21:11 AM
wow the board is dead... for the sake of arguing i believe Curry is going to put up a great game against Cortland... from the sounds of the last game Curry shot themselves in the foot countless times ... they failed to score inside Ithaca's red zone 3 times, they had numerous mistakes on special teams setting up Ithaca scores, they even had Crucial penalties at the worst times to bail out Ithaca. Put all of this together and you usually lose by 30 to a team like Ithaca, but some how Curry pulled it off

We all know Cortland can stop the run... that is their bread and butter and Plymouth was the best possible matchup for them... with that Plymouth still gave them a good game, if they played anyone else then MUC or Cortland i think the scores of the game would of favored Plymouth or been very close

Curry' s strength is passing the ball... Cortland's weakness from thier posters is the Pass D... with this said this should be a very close game... Curry's D has also been very stout for most of the year and they played well against Ithaca... if the D can give the same type of performace i think their could be a upset in the making, i truly believe that... If they penetrate the vulnerable secondary of Cortland enough they even be able to get some big runs mixed in and control the ball as well...

Prediction
Curry 28
Cortland 19

the winner will play MUC... so I'm also thinking for Curry's health that if they lose it might not be so bad in the end
Quote from: 63Center on November 28, 2008, 12:25:59 PM
Based on what I have read here, the Curry-Cortland game should be a good close game.  Cortland appears to be a running team and although Curry has a good defense, they lost to PSU who was also a good running team. However, Curry is a passing team and that appears to be Cortland's weak spot on D so overall it looks like it could be anyone's game.

Curry 21
Cortland 20

Good luck to Curry.

Hope all had a nice Thanksgiving, now back to some football talk.

I went to the PSU, Cortland game. I really believe PSU could beat Cortland, but they didn't!
After seeing both teams play this year (Curry & Cortland ) I think I'd lean towards Curry.... not just because they're from NEFC, but they are the better team. I believe Curry can stop the run, not taking anything away from Cortlands run game . The running back is quick and hits the holes hard, Currys D will stop that .
Curry has a passing game with a agile QB, Cortlands DBs and safety could be in for a long day. Watch out for cheap shots from the right tackle  he was handing them out  all day after the whistle. He's a big kid for sure, but kinda reminded me of the Michelin Man. (just my opinion )

Good luck to all Seniors, this could be your last game, play the whistle!

My pick
Cortland 32
Curry College 36
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 28, 2008, 06:33:37 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 28, 2008, 06:04:09 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 28, 2008, 11:21:11 AM
wow the board is dead... for the sake of arguing i believe Curry is going to put up a great game against Cortland... from the sounds of the last game Curry shot themselves in the foot countless times ... they failed to score inside Ithaca's red zone 3 times, they had numerous mistakes on special teams setting up Ithaca scores, they even had Crucial penalties at the worst times to bail out Ithaca. Put all of this together and you usually lose by 30 to a team like Ithaca, but some how Curry pulled it off

We all know Cortland can stop the run... that is their bread and butter and Plymouth was the best possible matchup for them... with that Plymouth still gave them a good game, if they played anyone else then MUC or Cortland i think the scores of the game would of favored Plymouth or been very close

Curry' s strength is passing the ball... Cortland's weakness from thier posters is the Pass D... with this said this should be a very close game... Curry's D has also been very stout for most of the year and they played well against Ithaca... if the D can give the same type of performace i think their could be a upset in the making, i truly believe that... If they penetrate the vulnerable secondary of Cortland enough they even be able to get some big runs mixed in and control the ball as well...

Prediction
Curry 28
Cortland 19

the winner will play MUC... so I'm also thinking for Curry's health that if they lose it might not be so bad in the end
Quote from: 63Center on November 28, 2008, 12:25:59 PM
Based on what I have read here, the Curry-Cortland game should be a good close game.  Cortland appears to be a running team and although Curry has a good defense, they lost to PSU who was also a good running team. However, Curry is a passing team and that appears to be Cortland's weak spot on D so overall it looks like it could be anyone's game.

Curry 21
Cortland 20

Good luck to Curry.

Hope all had a nice Thanksgiving, now back to some football talk.

I went to the PSU, Cortland game. I really believe PSU could beat Cortland, but they didn't!
After seeing both teams play this year (Curry & Cortland ) I think I'd lean towards Curry.... not just because they're from NEFC, but they are the better team. I believe Curry can stop the run, not taking anything away from Cortlands run game . The running back is quick and hits the holes hard, Currys D will stop that .
Curry has a passing game with a agile QB, Cortlands DBs and safety could be in for a long day. Watch out for cheap shots from the right tackle  he was handing them out  all day after the whistle. He's a big kid for sure, but kinda reminded me of the Michelin Man. (just my opinion )

Good luck to all Seniors, this could be your last game, play the whistle!

My pick
Cortland 32
Curry College 36

Interesting as always noline. I give Curry a ton of credit for their W last week at Ithaca, not many teams have been able to do that in the NCAA's. I find your pick to be interesting. You really believe Curry is a better team than Cortland? Here is where I disagree. I know Curry beat Ithaca and Ithaca beat Cortland and that comparing teams W's vs L's is not always very telling BUT I just don't see Curry winning this week. Here is why, in my mind I can never see Ithaca or Cortland losing to Mt.Ida and the fact that Plymouth lost to Mt. Ida and that the same Plymouth team beat Curry I just don't see Curry bringing enough game to win at Cortland in the playoffs. What I do know though is that as a result of last weeks great effort by Curry that I believe they can win this game and that they are a very good team, just not good enough to win this game. We shall see. I wish both teams a ton of luck and they both should feel very proud of what they have accomplished this season. Also dude be careful about calling out individual players like that. "Cheap shots can be interpreted differently" I don't think it is right to call him "the Michelin Man." Keep that stuff to yourself.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 28, 2008, 10:42:50 PM
Interesting as always noline. I give Curry a ton of credit for their W last week at Ithaca, not many teams have been able to do that in the NCAA's. I find your pick to be interesting. You really believe Curry is a better team than Cortland? Here is where I disagree. I know Curry beat Ithaca and Ithaca beat Cortland and that comparing teams W's vs L's is not always very telling BUT I just don't see Curry winning this week. Here is why, in my mind I can never see Ithaca or Cortland losing to Mt.Ida and the fact that Plymouth lost to Mt. Ida and that the same Plymouth team beat Curry I just don't see Curry bringing enough game to win at Cortland in the playoffs. What I do know though is that as a result of last weeks great effort by Curry that I believe they can win this game and that they are a very good team, just not good enough to win this game. We shall see. I wish both teams a ton of luck and they both should feel very proud of what they have accomplished this season. Also dude be careful about calling out individual players like that. "Cheap shots can be interpreted differently" I don't think it is right to call him "the Michelin Man." Keep that stuff to yourself.



Sorry that you disagree, but I call em as I see them !
Sure Mt Ida won that game, they didn't beat us we beat ourselves, 6 turnovers.

Curry 56
Cortland 19

I get a kick out of you, your league isn't any better off than ours. Hopefully we schedule one of your teams next year, hopefully Cortland at home. We'll sho ya how to tip cows anyday you want to travel to "cow hampshire"

                                        "nuff said"
                                            NLNG

GO CURRY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 29, 2008, 12:14:29 AM
Hah -- that'd be interesting.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 29, 2008, 08:27:39 AM
                               


                              Game Day !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on November 29, 2008, 08:29:15 AM
Quote from: 63Center on November 28, 2008, 12:25:59 PM
Based on what I have read here, the Curry-Cortland game should be a good close game.  Cortland appears to be a running team and although Curry has a good defense, they lost to PSU who was also a good running team. However, Curry is a passing team and that appears to be Cortland's weak spot on D so overall it looks like it could be anyone's game.

Curry 21
Cortland 20

Good luck to Curry.


Cortland appears to be a running team????  Curry QB   passing yds...2464.  Cortland QB passing yds.....2496.  If Curry hopes to have any chance, they will have to have done a better job with their homework than you.  

Red Dragons 45, Curry 28

And for NLNG:  Curry 56, Cortland 19;  That is a lot of disrespect.  Your a$$ must still be sore for that butt kicken you got.  News Flash....you're not that good.  If your prediction for Curry is as accurate for how you think of Plymouth,  we should be pretty good shape today.  
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 29, 2008, 08:46:05 AM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 28, 2008, 10:42:50 PM
Interesting as always noline. I give Curry a ton of credit for their W last week at Ithaca, not many teams have been able to do that in the NCAA's. I find your pick to be interesting. You really believe Curry is a better team than Cortland? Here is where I disagree. I know Curry beat Ithaca and Ithaca beat Cortland and that comparing teams W's vs L's is not always very telling BUT I just don't see Curry winning this week. Here is why, in my mind I can never see Ithaca or Cortland losing to Mt.Ida and the fact that Plymouth lost to Mt. Ida and that the same Plymouth team beat Curry I just don't see Curry bringing enough game to win at Cortland in the playoffs. What I do know though is that as a result of last weeks great effort by Curry that I believe they can win this game and that they are a very good team, just not good enough to win this game. We shall see. I wish both teams a ton of luck and they both should feel very proud of what they have accomplished this season. Also dude be careful about calling out individual players like that. "Cheap shots can be interpreted differently" I don't think it is right to call him "the Michelin Man." Keep that stuff to yourself.



Sorry that you disagree, but I call em as I see them !
Sure Mt Ida won that game, they didn't beat us we beat ourselves, 6 turnovers.

Curry 56
Cortland 19

I get a kick out of you, your league isn't any better off than ours. Hopefully we schedule one of your teams next year, hopefully Cortland at home. We'll sho ya how to tip cows anyday you want to travel to "cow hampshire"

                                        "nuff said"
                                            NLNG

GO CURRY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The LL would welcome this tool. This is what I love, the NEFC is getting some credit and rightfully so. I have been one of those who have been giving it. Yet here comes "nuff said" making outrageous claims that take away any validity he begins to have. 56-19 is hilarious and really makes it clear that your knowledge of football is equivalent to horse****. I would be to differ here cornhole I think the LL even on a down year like 08 is still stronger than the NEFC top to bottom. Yet we all have our opinions and you have a right to have yours, even when it is based on ****. Hope you had a nice thanksgiving ;D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 29, 2008, 08:57:26 AM
  Actually I was just kidding about the 56-19 , but I got your attention didn't I .
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 29, 2008, 08:59:39 AM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 29, 2008, 08:57:26 AM
  Actually I was just kidding about the 56-19 , but I got your attention didn't I .

Well if that is your goal you are good at it :)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on November 29, 2008, 09:05:20 AM
NLNG:  That isn't kidding...it is just disrespect.  The fact that you have seen both teams carries some weight but the fact that you continue to blow smoke out your a$$ diminishes your credibility.  Ithaca has seen both teams too and some of the IC posters favor Cortland.  They tend to be knowledgeable fans.  You on the other hand just throw crap hoping that something will stick.  
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 29, 2008, 09:05:35 AM
                                      10- Q    10-Q
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 29, 2008, 09:07:37 AM
 What is the web stream for this game today, anybody?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 29, 2008, 09:12:49 AM
Quote from: clandfan on November 29, 2008, 09:05:20 AM
NLNG:  That isn't kidding...it is just disrespect.  The fact that you have seen both teams carries some weight but the fact that you continue to blow smoke out your a$$ diminishes your credibility.  Ithaca has seen both teams too and some of the IC posters favor Cortland.  They tend to be knowledgeable fans.  You on the other hand just throw crap hoping that something will stick.  



NLNG+SJF fan=love forever! It stuck!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 29, 2008, 09:17:23 AM
 That brought a smile to my face .....thats funny
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 29, 2008, 10:51:30 AM
http://www.d3football.com/audio/
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 29, 2008, 12:34:24 PM
 End of 1st quarter

Cortland 7
Curry      0
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 29, 2008, 01:15:40 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 29, 2008, 12:34:24 PM
End of 1st quarter

Cortland 7
Curry      0

Half time
Cortland 21
Curry      0
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Btown999 on November 29, 2008, 02:35:32 PM
Congratulations to Cortland State.  That's a complete and total victory.

My congratulations to the Curry team and especially the graudating seniors.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 29, 2008, 02:50:28 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 29, 2008, 01:15:40 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on November 29, 2008, 12:34:24 PM
End of 1st quarter

Cortland 7
Curry      0

Half time
Cortland 21
Curry      0

Final
Cortland 42
Curry      0

Congrats Cortland, keep it rolling against Mt Union !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: boobyhasgameyo on November 29, 2008, 05:23:01 PM
Curry once again has a suprise upset in the first round and then gets promptly put in their place in the 2nd round.  But hey they seem to have gotten a hang of the first round thing, and maybe in 5 years they will get a hang of the 2nd.  Then in 8-10 more years the 3rd round won't be so bad.  Then in another 10 years the 4th round will be solved.  15 years after that they will win the championship.  So around 2050 is looking pretty good for the NEFC. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on November 29, 2008, 08:39:29 PM
No comments from DSB's Purple Drank think tank?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 29, 2008, 10:08:50 PM
Quote from: clandfan on November 29, 2008, 08:39:29 PM
No comments from DSB's Purple Drank think tank?

are you referring to gro? either way, hats off to cortlands coaching staff. They put together a solid plan for Curry, and completely nullified the Colonels special purple brew.  They need to put in some extra work to gameplan for Mount Union.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on November 30, 2008, 12:51:04 AM
Double Monkeystomp, way to go Cortland, now get ready for more of that Purple Drank.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on November 30, 2008, 08:18:13 AM
Quote from: 'gro on November 29, 2008, 10:08:50 PM
They need to put in some extra work to gameplan for Mount Union.

Agreed...that's the challenge for anyone who meets them.  We now  pay the penalty for having lost Cortaca.  Cortland will respect but not be intimidated by the machine.

Go Red Dragons!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 30, 2008, 10:42:00 AM
Quote from: clandfan on November 30, 2008, 08:18:13 AM
Quote from: 'gro on November 29, 2008, 10:08:50 PM
They need to put in some extra work to gameplan for Mount Union.

Agreed...that's the challenge for anyone who meets them.  We now  pay the penalty for having lost Cortaca.  Cortland will respect but not be intimidated by the machine.

Go Red Dragons!


Using my spectacular 20/20 hindsight... now that 3 of the #1 seeds are gone there's no doubt Cortland would have been the east #1. Mount would have gone back to their normal north region and the cortland/MUC game would probably still happen, only in the semi's instead of the quarterfinals.

hopefully they get the Hobart game in film exchange?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Btown999 on November 30, 2008, 03:13:56 PM
Quote from: boobyhasgameyo on November 29, 2008, 05:23:01 PM
Curry once again has a suprise upset in the first round and then gets promptly put in their place in the 2nd round.  But hey they seem to have gotten a hang of the first round thing, and maybe in 5 years they will get a hang of the 2nd.  Then in 8-10 more years the 3rd round won't be so bad.  Then in another 10 years the 4th round will be solved.  15 years after that they will win the championship.  So around 2050 is looking pretty good for the NEFC. 

Oh, ok, Bobby what else do your crystal marbles tell you?  Ever consider changing your chat name to Nostradamushasgameyo?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: boobyhasgameyo on November 30, 2008, 03:37:50 PM
Hey man I'm predicting a national championship for a team in your conference, not many schools can boast that. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Btown999 on November 30, 2008, 03:49:00 PM
Quote from: boobyhasgameyo on November 30, 2008, 03:37:50 PM
Hey man I'm predicting a national championship for a team in your conference, not many schools can boast that. 

Bobby,

That prediction didn't escape me.  Please forgive my feeble attempt at some humor.  We just got shutout by a really good team but it doesn't hurt any less so real humor will have to wait for another day.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 30, 2008, 07:05:03 PM
I believe, technically, that's a double monkey stompout.

Cortland does not get the Hobart game. But if Cortland is smart they have Sports Time Ohio set to tape the Hobart/Mount Union rebroadcast.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 30, 2008, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 30, 2008, 07:05:03 PM
I believe, technically, that's a double monkey stompout.

Cortland does not get the Hobart game. But if Cortland is smart they have Sports Time Ohio set to tape the Hobart/Mount Union rebroadcast.

I would hope they got a tape from Hobart.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 30, 2008, 09:21:12 PM
It would be a violation of NCAA rules for Hobart to provide that tape to anyone in the playoffs.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on December 01, 2008, 07:25:18 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 30, 2008, 09:21:12 PM
It would be a violation of NCAA rules for Hobart to provide that tape to anyone in the playoffs.

Yea I would wonder if that would still happen anyway somehow.

And Im suprised the NCAA hasnt developed some sort of online tape exchange that many high school leagues even have now.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 01, 2008, 11:15:30 AM
In the playoffs, the NCAA rep handles the video exchange personally. Cortland has three Mount Union videos before it leaves the stadium on Saturday. Obviously that doesn't include the game Mount Union just played, but it's at least convenient.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on December 01, 2008, 02:57:40 PM
Hey Pat, when will the All-American picks be out?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on December 03, 2008, 07:18:27 PM
 Congratulations to Coach Castonia (Plymouth )........

Coach of the year again DII/ DIII

Nice job Coach !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on December 04, 2008, 10:50:27 PM
congrats coach castonia!!
great job!! well done!!
coaching staff and players as well   8)

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on December 08, 2008, 05:43:42 PM
 Ok Ok we're all out of the running now, lets talk about next year.  PSU will be in good shape again next year. I see JJ Brooks under center, "Soup" at running back. Denio at D end he's one bad a$$. PSU graduating alot of key players, but Coach has done a great job in recruiting their replacements.

How is everyone else going to be next year, might as well get these pages rolling again, it's been awful quiet don't you know.

                                  " nuff said "
                                      NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on December 09, 2008, 06:44:39 PM
hey nlng!!
any frosh corners coming up next year?? word has it we may see cb23 moving to safety...
with soup going to offense big hole to fill at linebacker.

CB23 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on December 14, 2008, 08:20:44 PM
Quote from: CB23 on December 09, 2008, 06:44:39 PM
hey nlng!!
any frosh corners coming up next year?? word has it we may see cb23 moving to safety...
with soup going to offense big hole to fill at linebacker.

CB23 

Hey now!
How about we put "JS" the big sack at line backer, or keep him at DE and move " hairy monster" to a starting position to fill the "soups " spot.
Hats off to the "BIG SACK" for a great season this year, props to all region too ! Keep your head and be a leader next year. I think you guys are in the drivers seat next year and years to come. You guys have come a long way since 2005'

Again great job PSU 2008'
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on December 15, 2008, 07:53:48 PM
hey nlng!!
castelluci was a great find in the off season from merrimac.  interesting to see how coach and staff do in the off season.
i was wondering, why didn't baird get more playing time at fullback? no disrespect for clough, but, he never was the same after last year's shoulder injury. reminded me of brian picillo, smallest fullback in the league.
please,please,please hope plymouth will improve their punt/kick game.
stuck out like a sore thumb at cortland   :-\

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on December 16, 2008, 09:00:22 AM
Just a general question...in case any coaches come in looking for advice ;-)

are there any good high school prospects in your area?

I live in CT, and I know there are a few kids around here with a lot of talent, but not getting any looks from big-times schools
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on December 16, 2008, 09:37:23 AM
Quote from: InTheMix on December 16, 2008, 09:00:22 AM
Just a general question...in case any coaches come in looking for advice ;-)

are there any good high school prospects in your area?

I live in CT, and I know there are a few kids around here with a lot of talent, but not getting any looks from big-times schools

That's because no one wants anyone from CT.   They are afraid to get hit and get a grass stain on their gold plated cleats. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on December 16, 2008, 07:15:05 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on December 16, 2008, 09:00:22 AM
Just a general question...in case any coaches come in looking for advice ;-)

are there any good high school prospects in your area?

I live in CT, and I know there are a few kids around here with a lot of talent, but not getting any looks from big-times schools

If your not getting any looks at this point DIII is a good alternative, your playing for the love of the game. Players still will turn heads in D III if your a huge standout, scouts will still come and watch.
Hell Joe Dudek played for Denver and I'm sure there are alot more. Big fish small pond .
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on December 16, 2008, 07:31:29 PM
hey in the mix!!
have them go on line and check out the football combines. blue chip combine is popular (in mansfield mass.) but it is invite only. stay positive... 8)
don't get wrapped up in the negative crap from lewpoodle11   >:(

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on December 24, 2008, 05:32:29 PM
MIT has one "Good" season and they end up with not one but TWO all-americans....How on earth is that possible? Someone wake me out of this dream
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on December 25, 2008, 10:09:47 AM
               Merry Christmas to all !!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MITDT on December 27, 2008, 12:50:47 AM
I think we get a little boost during the post season awards for being the "nerd" school and only having 45 guys on the team.
Title: MIT Coach
Post by: mickey89 on January 15, 2009, 10:48:58 AM
Who is the new coach? Are they doing anything?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MITDT on January 17, 2009, 10:51:17 PM
No new coach yet.  Our athletic department is on the ball though, I'm sure they're doing everything they can.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on January 27, 2009, 05:36:23 PM
hey nlng!!
what's the scoop on this karma thievery? How are the karma's given or taken?

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on January 27, 2009, 09:30:46 PM
 CB23
Anyone that has 200 or more posts can give or take your karma, depending
on your comments on certain or all posts. I'm the one that gave you your karma from the start, not sure if you've gotten some taken away. I haven't been on here since Christmas.
    Hope this answers your question.
                                 
                                              NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on January 27, 2009, 09:54:49 PM
hey nlng!!
i was up to 6 karma's and now down to 2. probably taken from the cortland cheerleaders... ;D
I was just wondering about this karma thing, because there is total chaos in the liberty league trying to find out who is the sniper taking  karma's  :'( :'( :'(
check it out

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on February 04, 2009, 01:36:00 PM
National Signing Day!!! Woot Woot.....Who got the big recuits? Some teams are going to need them come the fall
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on February 17, 2009, 08:27:02 PM
hey nlng!!!
good food at the banquet last sunday  :P
i heard some rumors on some very good prospects that have committed. you got any specifics?
looke dlike we didn't lose too many seniors from last season. but, those seniors were vital to the successful season plymouth had.  ???
speaking of seniors, i heard from clough that he was being added to the coaching staff. what will his assignment be.

CB23

p.s.  my karma's keep dropping lower and lower in the negative!!!   8)

gotta love it!!!            bring it on!!!    :-*   whoever it is
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on February 18, 2009, 05:27:57 AM
Yes it was very good food Sunday.
I heard of one prospect coming forward, I like to call him "THE BIG HURT", he played D1aa as a linebacker,got redshirted his Fros year, could finnish up at PSU. He was teamates with Yosh,JJ,Luke,Harry&Zack . This kid is a PLAYER, we'll see.
I heard Clough is going to be the kicking coach/lineman coach, just kidding. He'll probabaly be a running back coach cause thats his forte.
I'm going to give you some -K just so can get started in the right direction.

                                                 Peace out
                                                   'nuff said"
                                                     NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on February 22, 2009, 01:59:41 PM
NLNG and CB23

Are Mack and Demarco back , because if both are gone, or either Mack ... then your team has some big holes to fill since they were a major part of your team next year... for Plymouth to succeed next year, in my opinion they need to develop a passing game and a kicking game... The power running game will get them no where in the NCAA when you play the likes of Cortland, Union, Hobart, and Ithaca every year
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on February 23, 2009, 05:42:04 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on February 22, 2009, 01:59:41 PM
NLNG and CB23

Are Mack and Demarco back , because if both are gone, or either Mack ... then your team has some big holes to fill since they were a major part of your team next year... for Plymouth to succeed next year, in my opinion they need to develop a passing game and a kicking game... The power running game will get them no where in the NCAA when you play the likes of Cortland, Union, Hobart, and Ithaca every year

                  X
Mack and DeMarco are both gone,but no worries! Yes Mack was the best back in  DIII, DeMarco played very well & put #'s on the board. This team next year will be the same caliber with a different look . Don't want to give out too much info. This team will the team to beat next year as well,trust me. My boy is all done,but believe me this team is going to be fun to watch in the next several years. Coach C and his staff have done a hell of a job finding kids to play,and play different positions. Yes we do need a kicker though,hopefully one shows up at camp,we'll see.
                                         "nuff said"

                                          NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on February 25, 2009, 09:53:48 AM
You cannot say Mack was the best back in DIII, when there are kids like Nate Kmic of MU. Plus Deron Brown of MIT and JT Harold had better years in the NEFC than Mack. I mean an MIT kid had a better year. He played two less games and had two more TD's and over 100 yards more than Mack.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on February 25, 2009, 04:35:52 PM
hey defensiskey!!
i'm sure nlng meant one of the best rb's in dIII.
in any event, your kid did not help get mit an nefc championship!!!    ;D

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on February 25, 2009, 07:39:39 PM
hey nlng!!
heard that plymouth had a quality receiver come in this spring semester.
also heard he was scouted for by georgetown.  red shirted him last season. still not sure of the whole story why he is here   ???

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on March 02, 2009, 02:13:55 AM
well i hope Plymouth all the best but this is what i sense for next year for the teams.

Bogan
1.Westfield - team to beat next year, even without fielding team is stacked
2.Maine - the other top team next year, they return a heck of alot except on the Dline
3.Framingham - the sleeper next year, they return alot of kids but replacing their QB Rich will be the big question
4. Bridgewater - middle of the pack team... without burley i dont think they do much on offence... losing some key players on the o line as well and thier new qb is a runner not a passer...
5. Coast Guard - breaking in a new qb will hurt them... losing some good players on  as well... could be higher on the list...
6. Fitchburg - losing most of thier offense with miller and their running back graduating and some key o linemen... defense is not good and losing some good players... could be a very long year for them
7. Worcester - huge dissapointment last year... i dont see that changing...
8. Mass - they need help everywhere...

Boyd-
1.Curry- still the top dog i think... they are replacing their qb van giesen but they return alot of kids with tons of depth...
2. Plymouth - NLNG and CB23 keep talking these guys up ... without demarco and mack though i might be putting them to high... time will tell
3. Endicott- my sleeper pick in the boyd... for some reason i like them alot... i feel like they got better as the year went on... they have a stud on D with eagen... and one in the backfield with lane... they are young and could put it together
4. Salve Regina - very similar to Framingham... use to be the laughing stocks now they are building themselves up ... took huge strides last year and i think they will get better
5. MIT- could be higher on the list... brown is coming back but his line was beastly last year and they are losing some good players their including oleniek... thier D is bad and i dont see them outscoring people as much with a weaker oline ...
6. Umass D- i feel like they will slip down this year... always seem to be competitive but with jt harold gone i feel like they will struggle... graduating some key players up front ... but they could suprise me and be better ... we will see
7. Nicholls - i think they are losing thier qb and rb morris who was most of thier team... losing some good defensive players... got worst as the year went on...
8. WNEC - they pull one win out of thier ass each year... and i think they are graduationg thier RB capitulo or something like that and had been their team since his freshmen year...

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on March 02, 2009, 09:08:08 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on March 02, 2009, 02:13:55 AM
well i hope Plymouth all the best but this is what i sense for next year for the teams.

Bogan
1.Westfield - team to beat next year, even without fielding team is stacked
2.Maine - the other top team next year, they return a heck of alot except on the Dline
3.Framingham - the sleeper next year, they return alot of kids but replacing their QB Rich will be the big question
4. Bridgewater - middle of the pack team... without burley i dont think they do much on offence... losing some key players on the o line as well and thier new qb is a runner not a passer...
5. Coast Guard - breaking in a new qb will hurt them... losing some good players on  as well... could be higher on the list...
6. Fitchburg - losing most of thier offense with miller and their running back graduating and some key o linemen... defense is not good and losing some good players... could be a very long year for them
7. Worcester - huge dissapointment last year... i dont see that changing...
8. Mass - they need help everywhere...

Boyd-
1.Curry- still the top dog i think... they are replacing their qb van giesen but they return alot of kids with tons of depth...
2. Plymouth - NLNG and CB23 keep talking these guys up ... without demarco and mack though i might be putting them to high... time will tell
3. Endicott- my sleeper pick in the boyd... for some reason i like them alot... i feel like they got better as the year went on... they have a stud on D with eagen... and one in the backfield with lane... they are young and could put it together
4. Salve Regina - very similar to Framingham... use to be the laughing stocks now they are building themselves up ... took huge strides last year and i think they will get better
5. MIT- could be higher on the list... brown is coming back but his line was beastly last year and they are losing some good players their including oleniek... thier D is bad and i dont see them outscoring people as much with a weaker oline ...
6. Umass D- i feel like they will slip down this year... always seem to be competitive but with jt harold gone i feel like they will struggle... graduating some key players up front ... but they could suprise me and be better ... we will see
7. Nicholls - i think they are losing thier qb and rb morris who was most of thier team... losing some good defensive players... got worst as the year went on...
8. WNEC - they pull one win out of thier ass each year... and i think they are graduationg thier RB capitulo or something like that and had been their team since his freshmen year...


X
I have to ask why you are so hyped up about Westfield..... did you see something there that I might have missed last year? I think Maine will still be at the top of the heap again. The Boyd division will be the champs again this year, whole different look from PSU next year. How can you say Curry will be the team or "topdog" again when PSU handed them thier jockstrap last year. If anything PSU will be the team to beat next year, I see the writing on the wall, don't you ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MITDT on March 04, 2009, 02:38:00 AM
MIT's O-Line should be ok.  They're returning Boehm, their center, who played in only one game.  The old center will probably kick out to guard, leaving one spot to be filled.

Defensively, they should be better.  They lost only three guys, and they started a bunch of young guys last year.  Plus, they're returning a few good defensive players who sat out last season for academic reasons.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on March 05, 2009, 04:55:49 PM
NLNG - to be honest i think Maine is the better team but i love Westfield's D... i think they have the D to shut down Maine when it counts next year and i think their offence will get a little bit better even without Cohen at qb, not to mention I'm not to crazy about Maine's D who had a tendency to give up points in bunches last year... remember D wins championships and I just got a hunch they will do it next year...
Curry over Plymouth is obvious in my book... Curry went to the playoffs and beat Ithaca and Plymouth lost to Cortland in the first round... Plymouth did beat Curry but they also had Demarco and Mack...i just think those two were a huge part of plymouth's success and without them they are going to struggle... i also think Curry has more depth then Plymouth as well... dont get me wrong Plymouth will be good but i just think Curry will be better next year... then again I'm no expert

MITDT - their oline might be ok but olenieck being out is huge... he was a stud from what everyone has said... if you win linemen of the year twice your a pretty good ball player... MIT will also need all the help it can get on D becuase they gave up alot of points last year and they will need everyone to return... but it is the same story every year with MIT saying how they start young guys every year on D and the next year they will be better... the academic standards at the school hurt you guys becuase many can not handle both football and school at the same time... for those who do my hat is off to you... if MIT was on the otherside of the Division i would definately have them higher
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on March 05, 2009, 06:43:30 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on March 05, 2009, 04:55:49 PM
NLNG - to be honest i think Maine is the better team but i love Westfield's D... i think they have the D to shut down Maine when it counts next year and i think their offence will get a little bit better even without Cohen at qb, not to mention I'm not to crazy about Maine's D who had a tendency to give up points in bunches last year... remember D wins championships and I just got a hunch they will do it next year...
Curry over Plymouth is obvious in my book... Curry went to the playoffs and beat Ithaca and Plymouth lost to Cortland in the first round... Plymouth did beat Curry but they also had Demarco and Mack...i just think those two were a huge part of plymouth's success and without them they are going to struggle... i also think Curry has more depth then Plymouth as well... dont get me wrong Plymouth will be good but i just think Curry will be better next year... then again I'm no expert

MITDT - their oline might be ok but olenieck being out is huge... he was a stud from what everyone has said... if you win linemen of the year twice your a pretty good ball player... MIT will also need all the help it can get on D becuase they gave up alot of points last year and they will need everyone to return... but it is the same story every year with MIT saying how they start young guys every year on D and the next year they will be better... the academic standards at the school hurt you guys becuase many can not handle both football and school at the same time... for those who do my hat is off to you... if MIT was on the otherside of the Division i would definately have them higher

X
Now you have my curiousity...... Did you watch PSU play last year or were you just following stats ? PSU did beat Curry last year, could have beat Ithaca, and should have beat Cortland. They had alot of bullets in their gun but never used them . I've followed this team for the past 4yrs, home and away, every game. I know what is there, you don't. Coach C is a very clever
man, good things are coming his way. Not to slight any team we talk about , but I see the future and it looks bright .
                                   "just my opinion"

                                          nuff said

                                            NLNG
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on March 05, 2009, 07:42:12 PM
hey nlng!!
you are right about cortland  being ripe for taking. my opinion of the game was plymouth beat themselves. piss poor kicking game and too many penalties. 2 penalties took away 2 chances of 1 and goal   :'(

CB23

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MITDT on March 06, 2009, 01:17:42 AM
I wasn't disagreeing with your rankings.  Losing Oleinik is big, but the line is not going to tank.  Last year we had an uncharacteristically young D, even for us.  They should improve.

I don't think the coursework hurts us as much as the admission process.  It's just really damn hard to find football players with those kind of academics.  It is especially hard in football, where you need a lot of bodies.  Every school loses guys, it just hurts us more because we're already short.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on March 06, 2009, 10:04:50 AM
MITDT - I know you were not disagreeing with the rankings... I do not think the O line will tank for you next year but it will be a little more difficult for Brown to squeeze through some holes... but last year was a huge step for your program and i even said i think you guys could be even higher on the list because you are young and you bring back some quality players all around

NLNG - You can say all you want to say but the bottom line is you lost to Cortland 38-17 and Curry won their playoff game against Ithaca who beat Cortland the week before... you might of beat them once in the regular season but your losing alot with Mack and Demarco gone and i think your even losing another all conference kid at Dtackle which seemed like your best player on D... I'm just going off stats I have not seen Plymouth play nor am i saying Coach C is not a great coach... I know you have biased opinions because your Plymouth fans but at the same time keep an open mind... Sorry not all of us have not watched Plymouth for the past 4 years every game... you guys also lost to Mount Ida last year which shows your capable of losing games you should easily win
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on March 07, 2009, 09:19:20 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on March 06, 2009, 10:04:50 AM
MITDT - I know you were not disagreeing with the rankings... I do not think the O line will tank for you next year but it will be a little more difficult for Brown to squeeze through some holes... but last year was a huge step for your program and i even said i think you guys could be even higher on the list because you are young and you bring back some quality players all around

NLNG - You can say all you want to say but the bottom line is you lost to Cortland 38-17 and Curry won their playoff game against Ithaca who beat Cortland the week before... you might of beat them once in the regular season but your losing alot with Mack and Demarco gone and i think your even losing another all conference kid at Dtackle which seemed like your best player on D... I'm just going off stats I have not seen Plymouth play nor am i saying Coach C is not a great coach... I know you have biased opinions because your Plymouth fans but at the same time keep an open mind... Sorry not all of us have not watched Plymouth for the past 4 years every game... you guys also lost to Mount Ida last year which shows your capable of losing games you should easily win
X
What team are you affiliated with ? The only team that beat us last year was PSU !!  We beat ourselves, I don't care how many times you talk about Mt Ida, we beat ourselves! I love to sit down with you over a cold one and discuss more.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: boobyhasgameyo on March 09, 2009, 03:01:26 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on March 07, 2009, 09:19:20 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on March 06, 2009, 10:04:50 AM
MITDT - I know you were not disagreeing with the rankings... I do not think the O line will tank for you next year but it will be a little more difficult for Brown to squeeze through some holes... but last year was a huge step for your program and i even said i think you guys could be even higher on the list because you are young and you bring back some quality players all around

NLNG - You can say all you want to say but the bottom line is you lost to Cortland 38-17 and Curry won their playoff game against Ithaca who beat Cortland the week before... you might of beat them once in the regular season but your losing alot with Mack and Demarco gone and i think your even losing another all conference kid at Dtackle which seemed like your best player on D... I'm just going off stats I have not seen Plymouth play nor am i saying Coach C is not a great coach... I know you have biased opinions because your Plymouth fans but at the same time keep an open mind... Sorry not all of us have not watched Plymouth for the past 4 years every game... you guys also lost to Mount Ida last year which shows your capable of losing games you should easily win
X
What team are you affiliated with ? The only team that beat us last year was PSU !!  We beat ourselves, I don't care how many times you talk about Mt Ida, we beat ourselves! I love to sit down with you over a cold one and discuss more.

Yeah Cortland definitely beat you guys.  Pretty sure Mount Ida beat you guys as well as is indicated by the final score.  This phenomenon occurs when the opposing team has more points at the end of the game.  But I'd love for you to go on the NJAC boards and proclaim that Cortland didn't infact defeat Plymouth State but rather verse them on how "we beat ourselves". 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on March 09, 2009, 06:30:24 PM
Hey Robbie sit down ! you probably never played a lick of college football. Ask Cortland if they (PSU) gave them a game . You'll get your answer there now butt  out !
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on March 09, 2009, 06:44:44 PM
Oh jesus, here we go again...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on March 09, 2009, 08:19:57 PM
hey nlng!!
very surprised that we haven't heard from clandfan. I'd thought he would be all over this.           ::)

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on March 20, 2009, 05:30:52 PM
still at -8 karma..........must be slippin   :P

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on March 20, 2009, 10:46:43 PM
NLNG

I did not know PSU played PSU which allowed them to beat themselves. You cannot say you beat yourselves when you lost to cortland by 20 or so points. maybe there was chances they didnt capitalize on but thats about as far as you can say with that

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on March 28, 2009, 04:46:07 PM
Quote from: defenseiskey on March 20, 2009, 10:46:43 PM
NLNG

I did not know PSU played PSU which allowed them to beat themselves. You cannot say you beat yourselves when you lost to cortland by 20 or so points. maybe there was chances they didnt capitalize on but thats about as far as you can say with that


Hey ski I didn't know you were at the game .......you sit down as well ...now
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 28, 2009, 08:01:59 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on March 28, 2009, 04:46:07 PM
you sit down as well ...now

Put a cork in that. Thanks. You don't get to tell people what they can or can't talk about.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefcfootballfan on March 30, 2009, 11:53:01 AM
Does anybody think Salve Regina has a chance of winning the Boyd next year?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballguy32 on March 31, 2009, 08:45:14 PM
Why do you think Salve? Have you heard something that makes you think so? They were much improved last season but were still middle of the pack. I would like to see them back to what they once were.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefcfootballfan on April 01, 2009, 07:20:07 PM
I'm not picking them as a favorite, more of a darkhorse.  They were much improved last season and they return pretty much all of their starters.  If they can play the way they played Curry last year I think they may just have an outside chance. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefcfootballfan on April 01, 2009, 07:23:11 PM
Everyone that finished ahead of them last year loses an important part of their team while Salve does not.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on April 02, 2009, 05:21:47 PM
 i would say, salve regina will play the spoiler, at best.
plymouth and curry too strong   ;)

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballguy32 on April 02, 2009, 06:48:24 PM
anyone know anything about how recruiting is going for the league. I know there was some talent around new england. Who got the studs?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefcfootballfan on April 08, 2009, 03:01:43 PM
Quote from: CB23 on April 02, 2009, 05:21:47 PM
i would say, salve regina will play the spoiler, at best.
plymouth and curry too strong   ;)

CB23

I don't know about that.  While yes Curry or Plymouth will undoubtedly be viewed as the favorites, I think a case can be made for Salve.  They return 19 starters.  They also return 7 all bogan division performers, which is more then anyone else.  They've got a quaterback who is arguably the top returning starter in the division (not saying he definitely is), a running back who ran for almost 1,000 yards in only 7 starts with his whole offensive line coming back.  They led the nation in pass defense last year and 3/4 of their secondary returns (granted their run defense sucked so no one really had to pass on them). 

I would certainly have my doubts, but I also wouldn't dismiss it so easily.  If, and this is a major if, they can stop the run with any sort of consistency, they will be a player in the division race.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on April 12, 2009, 11:42:09 PM
also, that comment you pasted about "Plymouth and Curry too strong" comes from CB23 who is quite the fan of Plymouth State... Salve could make a run at things this year especially with their side of the division losing a lot of talent... we will see though
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on April 14, 2009, 06:14:58 PM
hey boxer7806!!
hmmmmmmm?!     2008  plymouth 34       salve 7      :P

also with jeff mack limited play time (flu) we had a sophmore running back step in and ran for 177 yards on 16 carries...     ;)

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefcfootballfan on April 15, 2009, 09:09:40 AM
Notice how I said "if they can stop the run".   I realize this is no easy task.   This was easily salve's biggest weakness last year and the last few years.  I was merely pointing out that there can be other teams in contention besides Plymouth and Curry.  There's no doubting Plymouth kicked salve's ass last year but things may change, you never know.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on April 15, 2009, 06:37:57 PM
hey nefcfootballfan!!
the score was 14-7 at half, i willgive you that. i am not knocking salve. if you notice what i said "salve will be the spoiler". not a cellar dweller.
good luck this season.              ;)

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballguy32 on April 18, 2009, 03:45:48 PM
Has anyone heard about the recruiting classes, I heard Curry has a Transfer QB 1AA? Any other teams get transfers or big time high school studs?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on April 24, 2009, 07:10:21 AM
MIT is cutting 8 sports (not football).  Still has the most teams in d3 according to the article:

http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/articles/2009/04/24/mit_forced_to_cut_8_varsity_sports/
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on April 24, 2009, 08:39:01 AM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on April 24, 2009, 07:10:21 AM
MIT is cutting 8 sports (not football).  Still has the most teams in d3 according to the article:

http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/articles/2009/04/24/mit_forced_to_cut_8_varsity_sports/


MIT has more money than God.  That is ridiculous.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUKaz00 on April 24, 2009, 08:56:58 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on April 24, 2009, 08:39:01 AM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on April 24, 2009, 07:10:21 AM
MIT is cutting 8 sports (not football).  Still has the most teams in d3 according to the article:

http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/articles/2009/04/24/mit_forced_to_cut_8_varsity_sports/


MIT has more money than God.  That is ridiculous.

God wasn't invested with Madoff, so he took the lead back in the fall.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MITDT on April 26, 2009, 12:54:29 PM
http://mitathletics.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/041509aaa.html

New Coach for MIT.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on April 29, 2009, 08:14:11 PM
hey nlng!!
heard plymouth is passing out the nefc championship rings to the team on thurs. great day for them. congrats to the seniors and good luck after graduation.    ;D

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on May 27, 2009, 02:43:40 AM
I see WNEC beat up some French Canadian team a few weeks ago....

http://www1.wnec.edu/athletics/index.cfm?selection=doc.3510
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on July 13, 2009, 05:02:36 PM
Anyone call this home? What's the scoop on UMass-Dartmouth....AU opens there. What do they have coming back from a decent 6-4 '08 slate?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on July 13, 2009, 10:17:37 PM
Quote from: AUPepBand on July 13, 2009, 05:02:36 PM
Anyone call this home? What's the scoop on UMass-Dartmouth....AU opens there. What do they have coming back from a decent 6-4 '08 slate?


really?  I might have to go.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on July 20, 2009, 02:00:11 PM
How do you think the NEFC will stack up against opponents outside the conference finally? Curry vs Bentley (D-II) and Widener for example as well as UMD vs AU. Finally some real competition outside the conference.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on July 20, 2009, 02:42:34 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on July 13, 2009, 10:17:37 PM
Quote from: AUPepBand on July 13, 2009, 05:02:36 PM
Anyone call this home? What's the scoop on UMass-Dartmouth....AU opens there. What do they have coming back from a decent 6-4 '08 slate?


really?  I might have to go.

Barring unforeseen circumstances, Pep will be there, hopefully with a band! If you do go, JU, please stop and say hello....you'll be able to find us! lol
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on July 20, 2009, 03:16:51 PM
Quote from: defenseiskey on July 20, 2009, 02:00:11 PM
How do you think the NEFC will stack up against opponents outside the conference finally? Curry vs Bentley (D-II) and Widener for example as well as UMD vs AU. Finally some real competition outside the conference.

Channeling my inner Pat Coleman

Endicott is playing RPI for the 6th consecutive year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on July 20, 2009, 03:28:45 PM
Quote from: defenseiskey on July 20, 2009, 02:00:11 PM
How do you think the NEFC will stack up against opponents outside the conference finally? Curry vs Bentley (D-II) and Widener for example as well as UMD vs AU. Finally some real competition outside the conference.


Good for Curry.....A quality win in the NCAA's last year and playing Widener in '09.....gotta respect the direction the program is moving.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on July 20, 2009, 04:03:20 PM
Quote from: Union89 on July 20, 2009, 03:28:45 PM
Quote from: defenseiskey on July 20, 2009, 02:00:11 PM
How do you think the NEFC will stack up against opponents outside the conference finally? Curry vs Bentley (D-II) and Widener for example as well as UMD vs AU. Finally some real competition outside the conference.


Good for Curry.....A quality win in the NCAA's last year and playing Widener in '09.....gotta respect the direction the program is moving.

Still...at the moment...the only NEFC program making the proper decisions to become atleast regionally recognized.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefan on July 22, 2009, 02:00:36 AM
 $$$$ (In case you did not notice)..most schools are cutting back across the board and the state schools in Mass. are getting GUTTED. Most schools are limited in budgets
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballguy32 on July 25, 2009, 01:20:57 PM
Salve has challenged themselves this fall opening @ WPI and then home vs. Hartwick. Are they crazy, or confident with all those returners?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on July 25, 2009, 02:33:43 PM
Quote from: footballguy32 on July 25, 2009, 01:20:57 PM
Salve has challenged themselves this fall opening @ WPI and then home vs. Hartwick. Are they crazy, or confident with all those returners?

In typical Hartwick fashion, Salve will probably win, then Hartwick will go on to beat Ithaca at the cage a few weeks later by 47.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on July 25, 2009, 08:59:02 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on July 25, 2009, 02:33:43 PM
Quote from: footballguy32 on July 25, 2009, 01:20:57 PM
Salve has challenged themselves this fall opening @ WPI and then home vs. Hartwick. Are they crazy, or confident with all those returners?

In typical Hartwick fashion, Salve will probably win, then Hartwick will go on to beat Ithaca at the cage a few weeks later by 47.

...come on lew I say 44, we must take into account that we are talking post-Boltus wick now.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballguy32 on July 26, 2009, 12:10:04 PM
Well it is clear what you think about an inconsistent Hartwick but what are thoughts about Salve?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pumkinattack on July 26, 2009, 12:37:52 PM
Do you really think two teams destined for fourth or worse in the LL and E8 is a "crazy" OOC schedule?  What the hell must Curry be thinking playing Widener?  If Salve wants to be a player in the NEFC they have to win at least one of those. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on July 26, 2009, 12:55:03 PM
Quote from: footballguy32 on July 26, 2009, 12:10:04 PM
Well it is clear what you think about an inconsistent Hartwick but what are thoughts about Salve?

dlippiel doesn't know much about Salve but when he looks back at the pattern wick had set it makes one wonder how well they will play against a team like Salve that many may feel is not on wicks level. For one dlippiel feels like Salve is probably much closer to wick then they think. Wick will struggle in the E8 this season for sure and a loss to Salve would not be surprising. To this day dlippiel will never figure out how wick lost to WNEC a few years back and managed to defeat a very strong SJF team in the same season. dlippiel guesses that anyone can beat anyone on any given day and schools like Curry have shown us all that teams from conferences that are labeled inferior must still always be taken seriously. dlippiel feels that as a result of the past two years the NEFC has an opportunity to really take a step up in play and respect if they will only schedule and play well against many solid OOC opponents. Curry has set the table let's see if anyone shows up to eat with them in the next few years.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballguy32 on July 26, 2009, 08:18:45 PM
This is the first year where Curry has played out of conference. While other teams have continued to play OOC for a bunch of years now. Curry is not the first one to do this and don't understand why you think they are setting the standard.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on July 26, 2009, 10:01:01 PM
Quote from: footballguy32 on July 26, 2009, 08:18:45 PM
This is the first year where Curry has played out of conference. While other teams have continued to play OOC for a bunch of years now. Curry is not the first one to do this and don't understand why you think they are setting the standard.

Because they kick the sh!t out of everyone else in the NEFC year in and year out, and actually have done more than lose by 6 touchdowns in the playoffs.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on July 27, 2009, 08:55:21 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on July 26, 2009, 10:01:01 PM
Quote from: footballguy32 on July 26, 2009, 08:18:45 PM
This is the first year where Curry has played out of conference. While other teams have continued to play OOC for a bunch of years now. Curry is not the first one to do this and don't understand why you think they are setting the standard.

Because they kick the sh!t out of everyone else in the NEFC year in and year out, and actually have done more than lose by 6 touchdowns in the playoffs.

Exactly... ;D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pumkinattack on July 27, 2009, 08:56:34 AM
Quote from: dlippiel on July 27, 2009, 08:55:21 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on July 26, 2009, 10:01:01 PM
Quote from: footballguy32 on July 26, 2009, 08:18:45 PM
This is the first year where Curry has played out of conference. While other teams have continued to play OOC for a bunch of years now. Curry is not the first one to do this and don't understand why you think they are setting the standard.

Because they kick the sh!t out of everyone else in the NEFC year in and year out, and actually have done more than lose by 6 touchdowns in the playoffs.

Exactly... ;D

Which is  why Coach King at RPI won't return the Curry coach's calls.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on July 27, 2009, 09:25:52 AM
Quote from: pumkinattack on July 27, 2009, 08:56:34 AM
Quote from: dlippiel on July 27, 2009, 08:55:21 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on July 26, 2009, 10:01:01 PM
Quote from: footballguy32 on July 26, 2009, 08:18:45 PM
This is the first year where Curry has played out of conference. While other teams have continued to play OOC for a bunch of years now. Curry is not the first one to do this and don't understand why you think they are setting the standard.

Because they kick the sh!t out of everyone else in the NEFC year in and year out, and actually have done more than lose by 6 touchdowns in the playoffs.

Exactly... ;D

Which is  why Coach King at RPI won't return the Curry coach's calls.

Most likely.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: stimulator on July 27, 2009, 10:32:40 PM
QuoteBecause they kick the sh!t out of everyone else in the NEFC year in and year out,

Not sure if 28-21 in OT against a mighty 2-8 Worcester State team and 41-34 against Fitchburg State who was 4-6 qualifies as **** kicking. 

I will give them their due.  They recruit well in the Boston area and would fare well in either the E8 or LL but certainly might find the weekly competition a bit tougher than over the likes of WNEC, Westfield or Nichols
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on July 27, 2009, 11:02:49 PM
Quote from: stimulator on July 27, 2009, 10:32:40 PM
QuoteBecause they kick the sh!t out of everyone else in the NEFC year in and year out,

Not sure if 28-21 in OT against a mighty 2-8 Worcester State team and 41-34 against Fitchburg State who was 4-6 qualifies as **** kicking. 

I will give them their due.  They recruit well in the Boston area and would fare well in either the E8 or LL but certainly might find the weekly competition a bit tougher than over the likes of WNEC, Westfield or Nichols

Alright let's not get too technical here.  They have lost 4 NEFC games in 6 years.  They've avoided those losses to inferior opponents that you and I have gotten used to(Utica, St. Lawrence, Merchant Marine) it seems like every year now, and then they go and win a couple playoff games.  I'd go ahead and say they are head and shoulders above the rest of the NEFC at this point, regardless of number crunching on a game by game basis.  We all know the W is what matters and they do that, relatively speaking, without question.

And they make Gro drink that purple drank.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on July 28, 2009, 07:06:25 AM
I'M A BELIEVER.  It took RPI two tries to beat Ithaca in a playoff game, both at home. Dem Spicy Boyz strolled into Butterfield and purple pimped slapped a very good Bombers team.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PBR... on July 28, 2009, 08:53:10 AM
Quote from: 'gro on July 28, 2009, 07:06:25 AM
I'M A BELIEVER.  It took RPI two tries to beat Ithaca in a playoff game, both at home. Dem Spicy Boyz strolled into Butterfield and purple pimped slapped a very good Bombers team.

hollah...
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.completelybonkers.co.uk%2Fimages%2Fsmi2%2520pimp%2520purple.jpg&hash=13dd135007d2e6695a215772e2f90e424402ba46)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on July 28, 2009, 09:15:12 AM
Quote from: uPBRmeASAP on July 28, 2009, 08:53:10 AM
Quote from: 'gro on July 28, 2009, 07:06:25 AM
I'M A BELIEVER.  It took RPI two tries to beat Ithaca in a playoff game, both at home. Dem Spicy Boyz strolled into Butterfield and purple pimped slapped a very good Bombers team.

hollah...
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.completelybonkers.co.uk%2Fimages%2Fsmi2%2520pimp%2520purple.jpg&hash=13dd135007d2e6695a215772e2f90e424402ba46)


What did the five purple fingers say to the bombers?(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.house.gov%2Flobiondo%2Fimages%2FPurpleVotingFingersLARGE.jpg&hash=edc0eabcdae505ae609f5e24ab11cda8e6768fb6)

SLAP!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: stimulator on July 28, 2009, 11:35:53 AM
Hell.. the Stim will imbibe of the purple Kool Aid if they keep it close against Bentley.. If they win, will join the Spice Boyz fan club as a lifetime member.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on July 28, 2009, 12:07:12 PM
Quote from: stimulator on July 28, 2009, 11:35:53 AM
Hell.. the Stim will imbibe of the purple Kool Aid if they keep it close against Bentley.. If they win, will join the Spice Boyz fan club as a lifetime member.

I think they could/should give them a game.  That watered down NE DII ball does not impress me.  Although we are still talking NEFC here...And of the terd teams in that league, Bentley has been decent for the most part.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on July 28, 2009, 03:15:37 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on July 28, 2009, 12:07:12 PM
Quote from: stimulator on July 28, 2009, 11:35:53 AM
Hell.. the Stim will imbibe of the purple Kool Aid if they keep it close against Bentley.. If they win, will join the Spice Boyz fan club as a lifetime member.

I think they could/should give them a game.  That watered down NE DII ball does not impress me.  Although we are still talking NEFC here...And of the terd teams in that league, Bentley has been decent for the most part.

But not beneath losing to a D3 team. They played Plymouth 3 times in the 90s, going 2-1 in 3 very close games.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on July 28, 2009, 03:26:04 PM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on July 28, 2009, 03:15:37 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on July 28, 2009, 12:07:12 PM
Quote from: stimulator on July 28, 2009, 11:35:53 AM
Hell.. the Stim will imbibe of the purple Kool Aid if they keep it close against Bentley.. If they win, will join the Spice Boyz fan club as a lifetime member.

I think they could/should give them a game.  That watered down NE DII ball does not impress me.  Although we are still talking NEFC here...And of the terd teams in that league, Bentley has been decent for the most part.

But not beneath losing to a D3 team. They played Plymouth 3 times in the 90s, going 2-1 in 3 very close games.

Bentley has been very up and down over the past 10 years.  There have been a few years where I think they could have been a legit top 20 team nationally, and other years where they would lose 3-4 games in the E8 and LL.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on July 28, 2009, 03:32:47 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on July 28, 2009, 03:26:04 PM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on July 28, 2009, 03:15:37 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on July 28, 2009, 12:07:12 PM
Quote from: stimulator on July 28, 2009, 11:35:53 AM
Hell.. the Stim will imbibe of the purple Kool Aid if they keep it close against Bentley.. If they win, will join the Spice Boyz fan club as a lifetime member.

I think they could/should give them a game.  That watered down NE DII ball does not impress me.  Although we are still talking NEFC here...And of the terd teams in that league, Bentley has been decent for the most part.

But not beneath losing to a D3 team. They played Plymouth 3 times in the 90s, going 2-1 in 3 very close games.

Bentley has been very up and down over the past 10 years.  There have been a few years where I think they could have been a legit top 20 team nationally, and other years where they would lose 3-4 games in the E8 and LL.

I am still holding my ground here.  I've seen quite a few of those 'D-II' games in MA/NH(Merrimack, UMass-Lowell(before they folded), Bentley, St. Anselm) and don't let the higher division fool you.  That quality of ball is not any better than the top E8 LL matchups.  As JU said, Bentley has had a few nationally competitive teams, but on average, I don't think much of any of those programs...atleast in comparison to d3(NEFC excluded) talent.  
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 28, 2009, 03:37:03 PM
I will be far, far more interested in the Widener game than the Bentley game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PBR... on July 28, 2009, 03:43:01 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 28, 2009, 03:37:03 PM
I will be far, far more interested in the Widener game than the Bentley game.

u going to the game guru?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 28, 2009, 04:21:22 PM
Not unless it's within about a four-hour radius of Minneapolis.  :-\
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on July 29, 2009, 08:59:08 AM
On the topic of NEFC teams playing outside of the conference:

I am glad to see that teams are starting to branch out.  A couple of years ago the NEFC was the joke of D III football.  MOST teams would stay in their comfort zones and play teams that they could beat.  Endicott played out of conference games from the start against teams like WPI, RPI, and Hartwick.  It helped them at the time, but as we can all see they've dropped off.

Maybe with the power teams (Curry, Plymouth State) playing OOC games the NEFC can get to another level.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pumkinattack on July 29, 2009, 09:32:53 AM
That's been the idea all along.  You guys just haven't been listening. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on July 30, 2009, 09:34:37 AM
Curry Scrimmaged Bentley a few years back and did well against them. I know it is only a scrimmage but it gives some type of outlook on what may happen. Both sides have lost key players that need their shoes filled. Especially with Curry losing it's QB and primary WR on O and some players on D. Be an interesting start to the season for Curry and many other NEFC teams. They will hang in I'm sure to make the games a dooze
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on July 30, 2009, 10:28:28 AM
Pep believes AU will find a formidable opponent in UMass-Dartmouth come 12 noon Saturday, Sept. 5. According to their website, the Corsairs had 21 seniors play their 2008 finale against Curry, a 40-20 loss. Their coach says they have some "big shoes to fill" including a couple of linebackers and a defensive lineman, and their QB, RB and WR on offense. Nevertheless, UMass-Dartmouth has a winning tradition, going 122-84 over its 21 seasons of football. And the Saxons will be making a L O N G trip to coastal Massachusetts.

On Saxon Warriors!!

Any Dartmouth fans on the boards? What's a Corsair?

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on July 30, 2009, 10:49:29 AM
Quote from: AUPepBand on July 30, 2009, 10:28:28 AM
Pep believes AU will find a formidable opponent in UMass-Dartmouth come 12 noon Saturday, Sept. 5. According to their website, the Corsairs had 21 seniors play their 2008 finale against Curry, a 40-20 loss. Their coach says they have some "big shoes to fill" including a couple of linebackers and a defensive lineman, and their QB, RB and WR on offense. Nevertheless, UMass-Dartmouth has a winning tradition, going 122-84 over its 21 seasons of football. And the Saxons will be making a L O N G trip to coastal Massachusetts.

On Saxon Warriors!!

Any Dartmouth fans on the boards? What's a Corsair?



It's one of those flowers you get the chick for the prom.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on July 30, 2009, 10:57:04 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on July 30, 2009, 10:49:29 AM
Quote from: AUPepBand on July 30, 2009, 10:28:28 AM
Pep believes AU will find a formidable opponent in UMass-Dartmouth come 12 noon Saturday, Sept. 5. According to their website, the Corsairs had 21 seniors play their 2008 finale against Curry, a 40-20 loss. Their coach says they have some "big shoes to fill" including a couple of linebackers and a defensive lineman, and their QB, RB and WR on offense. Nevertheless, UMass-Dartmouth has a winning tradition, going 122-84 over its 21 seasons of football. And the Saxons will be making a L O N G trip to coastal Massachusetts.

On Saxon Warriors!!

Any Dartmouth fans on the boards? What's a Corsair?



It's one of those flowers you get the chick for the prom.

Wrong LD, its one of these....

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lynoure.com%2Fgallery%2Fimg_5320scale3.jpg&hash=82ae0be286a815e726fc6041fe9b85df08e10665)

They were invented in Dartmouth.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on July 30, 2009, 11:01:16 AM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on July 30, 2009, 10:57:04 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on July 30, 2009, 10:49:29 AM
Quote from: AUPepBand on July 30, 2009, 10:28:28 AM
Pep believes AU will find a formidable opponent in UMass-Dartmouth come 12 noon Saturday, Sept. 5. According to their website, the Corsairs had 21 seniors play their 2008 finale against Curry, a 40-20 loss. Their coach says they have some "big shoes to fill" including a couple of linebackers and a defensive lineman, and their QB, RB and WR on offense. Nevertheless, UMass-Dartmouth has a winning tradition, going 122-84 over its 21 seasons of football. And the Saxons will be making a L O N G trip to coastal Massachusetts.

On Saxon Warriors!!

Any Dartmouth fans on the boards? What's a Corsair?



It's one of those flowers you get the chick for the prom.

Wrong LD, its one of these....

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lynoure.com%2Fgallery%2Fimg_5320scale3.jpg&hash=82ae0be286a815e726fc6041fe9b85df08e10665)

They were invented in Dartmouth.

This is a corsair.

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.daveswarbirds.com%2Fusplanes%2Fphotos%2Ff4u.jpg&hash=7d6ddbb7ca57a980b605c871efcc438ecf1834db)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PBR... on July 30, 2009, 12:06:14 PM
Quote from: AUPepBand on July 30, 2009, 10:28:28 AM
Pep believes AU will find a formidable opponent in UMass-Dartmouth come 12 noon Saturday, Sept. 5. According to their website, the Corsairs had 21 seniors play their 2008 finale against Curry, a 40-20 loss. Their coach says they have some "big shoes to fill" including a couple of linebackers and a defensive lineman, and their QB, RB and WR on offense. Nevertheless, UMass-Dartmouth has a winning tradition, going 122-84 over its 21 seasons of football. And the Saxons will be making a L O N G trip to coastal Massachusetts.

On Saxon Warriors!!

Any Dartmouth fans on the boards? What's a Corsair?



(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.calconnect.com%2Fcars%2F62spyder%2FCorvair.jpg&hash=b96af085f987a93c546205f50c56f08bc143bc1a)  ...sorry this is a corvair
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on July 30, 2009, 12:37:20 PM
Quote from: AUPepBand on July 30, 2009, 10:28:28 AM
Pep believes AU will find a formidable opponent in UMass-Dartmouth come 12 noon Saturday, Sept. 5. According to their website, the Corsairs had 21 seniors play their 2008 finale against Curry, a 40-20 loss. Their coach says they have some "big shoes to fill" including a couple of linebackers and a defensive lineman, and their QB, RB and WR on offense. Nevertheless, UMass-Dartmouth has a winning tradition, going 122-84 over its 21 seasons of football. And the Saxons will be making a L O N G trip to coastal Massachusetts.

On Saxon Warriors!!

Any Dartmouth fans on the boards? What's a Corsair?



Pep if you do end up staying over, I would look into Newport, RI.  Its about 45 minutes away but its a fantastic city and area.  It might be out of season too so you might pay $150 a night in a place that might go for $500 a night during the summer....

EDIT: just realized thats labor day weekend, forget it.  But Newport is still fantastic if you want to stay near there or want to pay the big bucks to stay in the city. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on July 30, 2009, 03:38:07 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on July 30, 2009, 12:37:20 PM
Pep if you do end up staying over, I would look into Newport, RI.  Its about 45 minutes away but its a fantastic city and area.  It might be out of season too so you might pay $150 a night in a place that might go for $500 a night during the summer....

EDIT: just realized thats labor day weekend, forget it.  But Newport is still fantastic if you want to stay near there or want to pay the big bucks to stay in the city. 

Pep is very much familiar with Newport, RI. In fact, Pep had purchased back in November 2008 a Wyndham Vacation sales pitch for Newport, RI that amounted to $89 for three nights and four days. So, Pep called this very morning to see whether he could schedule it for that weekend, seeing that Newport is not far from New Bedford, MA. Seems that Wyndham has closed their Newport, RI Welcome Center and, therefore, could not book Pep there. So, instead, Pep is getting his $89 refunded. That ruins Pep's plan. (Pep is notorious for traveling on the cheap and has been known to sleep in his bandwagon and pay $9 for a shower at a truck stop rather than dish out $100 for a room.)

To make a long story even longer, Pep, in his library position, researched the inventor of the universal joint (Clarence Spicer) who had attended Alfred Academy in the 1890s, for the Dana Corporation headquartered in Toledo, OH. Charles Dana partnered with Spicer soon after Spicer had established the Spicer Manufacturing Co. in 1904 to produce U-joints for the auto industry. Dana eventually took over Spicer's business, allowing Spicer to focus more on his inventive abilities. Anyway, Pep was invited by the Dana Corporation to do a presentation on Spicer at the company's Centennial Celebration in Toledo back in 2004. There, Pep met Charlie Dana, grandson of Spicer's partner, who happens to hail from Newport, RI where he owns the Newport Shipyard! Pep has visited and lunched with Charlie at his shipyard....later to discover an AU student from Newport, RI who is good friends with Charlie's sons and whose father previously owned the shipyard!!

Now Pep had long ago visited The Breakers and some of the other mansions out on Bellevue Ave. (also home of Salve Regina) and was interested to learn that all of that was at one time farm property. Seems that Pep's acquaintance resides in the original farmhouse on the corner of Bellevue Avenue. Ha!

Many of Alfred's settlers--the Seventh Day Baptists--hailed from Westerly, RI and, in fact, the first Seventh Day Baptist Church in America was the one established at Newport, RI. The original church building is part of the Newport Historical Museum.

Mrs. Pep grew up in Ashaway, RI near Westerly...another reason Pep is familiar with the Ocean State. Pep's favorite beach is at "The Dunes," right near Misquamicut State Beach.

Pep is thinking he'll contact his AU student friend to see if he'd like a weekend trip back home....and whether he'd host the band for a night. Ha ha! Travel on the cheap...it's how Pep rolls.

Stay tuned....and maybe you'll hear, as Paul Harvey (may he R.I.P.) would say, "the rest of the story."


Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on July 30, 2009, 05:24:05 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on July 29, 2009, 08:59:08 AM
On the topic of NEFC teams playing outside of the conference:

I am glad to see that teams are starting to branch out.  A couple of years ago the NEFC was the joke of D III football.  MOST teams would stay in their comfort zones and play teams that they could beat.  Endicott played out of conference games from the start against teams like WPI, RPI, and Hartwick.  It helped them at the time, but as we can all see they've dropped off.

Maybe with the power teams (Curry, Plymouth State) playing OOC games the NEFC can get to another level.

dlippiel feels that Curry has moved on to that next level and has earned a certain amount of respect on an East region level. dlippiel can tell you this, the next NCAA game Curry plays they will definitely be taken seriously by all. Plymoth St still has a way to go but made strides last season. As far as the rest of the NEFC is concerned, the conference needs a few more OOC wins and/or NCAA wins by other teams to go to that next level. dlippiel will say one thing...

LET'S GO ENDICOTT!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: stimulator on July 30, 2009, 08:24:37 PM
Damn dlippiel...

spreading your pro-Dutchmen sentiments across multiple boards...:D.

I think that daughter of yours will grow up to be an engineer.. any ideas on where she might matriculate? 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pumkinattack on July 30, 2009, 08:47:02 PM
Georgia Tech??
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on July 30, 2009, 08:50:55 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on July 30, 2009, 05:24:05 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on July 29, 2009, 08:59:08 AM
On the topic of NEFC teams playing outside of the conference:

I am glad to see that teams are starting to branch out.  A couple of years ago the NEFC was the joke of D III football.  MOST teams would stay in their comfort zones and play teams that they could beat.  Endicott played out of conference games from the start against teams like WPI, RPI, and Hartwick.  It helped them at the time, but as we can all see they've dropped off.

Maybe with the power teams (Curry, Plymouth State) playing OOC games the NEFC can get to another level.

dlippiel feels that Curry has moved on to that next level and has earned a certain amount of respect on an East region level. dlippiel can tell you this, the next NCAA game Curry plays they will definitely be taken seriously by all. Plymoth St still has a way to go but made strides last season. As far as the rest of the NEFC is concerned, the conference needs a few more OOC wins and/or NCAA wins by other teams to go to that next level. dlippiel will say one thing...

LET'S GO ENDICOTT!

Dlipp, dont get carried away.

They beat an Ithaca team without its starting QB and RB and then got smoked by an average Cortland team by 4 TDs......Lets settle down with the respect card.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefan on July 30, 2009, 09:55:58 PM
One of the former Chancellors of UMass Dartmouth Back before it was Southeastern Mass University (SMU) was a former Corsair pilot and named the schools sports teams after his love for his favorite plane. During the Vietnam conflict, the school kept the name and reverted to its "pirate" incarnation. It has been a "pirate" ever since. There was talk before the new logo was introduced of going to a unisex Corsair Ship but that was shot down by the student athletes. Believe me; Alfred will know what a Corsair is by the end of game. UMass Dartmouth has a lot to replace but they have enough to go around and give Alfred a game and in my viewpoint some new earned respect from an out of conference opponent. If Alfred is not careful a "loss" will make the bus ride seem a lot longer.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on July 30, 2009, 09:58:02 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on July 30, 2009, 08:50:55 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on July 30, 2009, 05:24:05 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on July 29, 2009, 08:59:08 AM
On the topic of NEFC teams playing outside of the conference:

I am glad to see that teams are starting to branch out.  A couple of years ago the NEFC was the joke of D III football.  MOST teams would stay in their comfort zones and play teams that they could beat.  Endicott played out of conference games from the start against teams like WPI, RPI, and Hartwick.  It helped them at the time, but as we can all see they've dropped off.

Maybe with the power teams (Curry, Plymouth State) playing OOC games the NEFC can get to another level.

dlippiel feels that Curry has moved on to that next level and has earned a certain amount of respect on an East region level. dlippiel can tell you this, the next NCAA game Curry plays they will definitely be taken seriously by all. Plymoth St still has a way to go but made strides last season. As far as the rest of the NEFC is concerned, the conference needs a few more OOC wins and/or NCAA wins by other teams to go to that next level. dlippiel will say one thing...

LET'S GO ENDICOTT!

Dlipp, dont get carried away.

They beat an Ithaca team without its starting QB and RB and then got smoked by an average Cortland team by 4 TDs......Lets settle down with the respect card.

dlippiel hears ya Utah and agrees to an extent. dlippiel just looks back at how much he hammered the NEFC, specifically Curry, and even more so Wick for losing to Curry in the NCAA's and feels like in some ways he owes Curry a bit of respect. Regarding the Ithaca game dlippiel was still blown away with the Curry Victory at Ithaca. He felt that even with Grastorf (the back up QB) if the bombers were really that much better than the purple people they would have handled that NCAA game at home. Hence Curry earned some respect there. Yet dlippiel does tend to get extreme before he backs off and gets more realistic. This seems to be one of those occasions.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on July 30, 2009, 10:02:49 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on July 30, 2009, 09:58:02 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on July 30, 2009, 08:50:55 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on July 30, 2009, 05:24:05 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on July 29, 2009, 08:59:08 AM
On the topic of NEFC teams playing outside of the conference:

I am glad to see that teams are starting to branch out.  A couple of years ago the NEFC was the joke of D III football.  MOST teams would stay in their comfort zones and play teams that they could beat.  Endicott played out of conference games from the start against teams like WPI, RPI, and Hartwick.  It helped them at the time, but as we can all see they've dropped off.

Maybe with the power teams (Curry, Plymouth State) playing OOC games the NEFC can get to another level.

dlippiel feels that Curry has moved on to that next level and has earned a certain amount of respect on an East region level. dlippiel can tell you this, the next NCAA game Curry plays they will definitely be taken seriously by all. Plymoth St still has a way to go but made strides last season. As far as the rest of the NEFC is concerned, the conference needs a few more OOC wins and/or NCAA wins by other teams to go to that next level. dlippiel will say one thing...

LET'S GO ENDICOTT!

Dlipp, dont get carried away.

They beat an Ithaca team without its starting QB and RB and then got smoked by an average Cortland team by 4 TDs......Lets settle down with the respect card.

dlippiel hears ya Utah and agrees to an extent. dlippiel just looks back at how much he hammered the NEFC, specifically Curry, and even more so Wick for losing to Curry in the NCAA's and feels like in some ways he owes Curry a bit of respect. Regarding the Ithaca game dlippiel was still blown away with the Curry Victory at Ithaca. He felt that even with Grastorf (the back up QB) if the bombers were really that much better than the purple people they would have handled that NCAA game at home. Hence Curry earned some respect there. Yet dlippiel does tend to get extreme before he backs off and gets more realistic. This seems to be one of those occasions.

Oh Curry is a decent team don't get me wrong.  They have the potential to beat anyone.  Ive seen them a bunch of times and was only suprised they beat Ithaca because of the history, not because of what I saw on the field by Curry.  They are big, physical and athletic.  When they beat Coast Guard for the NEFC championship game 2 years ago you would not believe how much smaller CG was than Curry.  That gave me a small impression that Curry simply wasn't athletic enough to compete with an E8 champ.

I don't want to make that many excuses except I thought Ithaca was twice the team Cortland was the last two years.  I mean, they were the better team in both games.

I say Alfred beats Umass by 17 and Bentley beats Curry by 21.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on July 30, 2009, 10:11:12 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on July 30, 2009, 10:02:49 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on July 30, 2009, 09:58:02 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on July 30, 2009, 08:50:55 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on July 30, 2009, 05:24:05 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on July 29, 2009, 08:59:08 AM
On the topic of NEFC teams playing outside of the conference:

I am glad to see that teams are starting to branch out.  A couple of years ago the NEFC was the joke of D III football.  MOST teams would stay in their comfort zones and play teams that they could beat.  Endicott played out of conference games from the start against teams like WPI, RPI, and Hartwick.  It helped them at the time, but as we can all see they've dropped off.

Maybe with the power teams (Curry, Plymouth State) playing OOC games the NEFC can get to another level.

dlippiel feels that Curry has moved on to that next level and has earned a certain amount of respect on an East region level. dlippiel can tell you this, the next NCAA game Curry plays they will definitely be taken seriously by all. Plymoth St still has a way to go but made strides last season. As far as the rest of the NEFC is concerned, the conference needs a few more OOC wins and/or NCAA wins by other teams to go to that next level. dlippiel will say one thing...

LET'S GO ENDICOTT!

Dlipp, dont get carried away.

They beat an Ithaca team without its starting QB and RB and then got smoked by an average Cortland team by 4 TDs......Lets settle down with the respect card.

dlippiel hears ya Utah and agrees to an extent. dlippiel just looks back at how much he hammered the NEFC, specifically Curry, and even more so Wick for losing to Curry in the NCAA's and feels like in some ways he owes Curry a bit of respect. Regarding the Ithaca game dlippiel was still blown away with the Curry Victory at Ithaca. He felt that even with Grastorf (the back up QB) if the bombers were really that much better than the purple people they would have handled that NCAA game at home. Hence Curry earned some respect there. Yet dlippiel does tend to get extreme before he backs off and gets more realistic. This seems to be one of those occasions.

Oh Curry is a decent team don't get me wrong.  They have the potential to beat anyone.  Ive seen them a bunch of times and was only suprised they beat Ithaca because of the history, not because of what I saw on the field by Curry.  They are big, physical and athletic.  When they beat Coast Guard for the NEFC championship game 2 years ago you would not believe how much smaller CG was than Curry.  That gave me a small impression that Curry simply wasn't athletic enough to compete with an E8 champ.

I don't want to make that many excuses except I thought Ithaca was twice the team Cortland was the last two years.  I mean, they were the better team in both games.

I say Alfred beats Umass by 17 and Bentley beats Curry by 21.

It will be interesting to see how the purple show does this season. dlippiel thinks they will need many consistent seasons being competitive and/or winning OOC games and NCAA games to take a big step.....**** since when did dlippiel care so much about Curry? I bleed Garnet not freakin purple. Help me Utah... ;D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on July 30, 2009, 10:13:02 PM
Quote from: stimulator on July 30, 2009, 08:24:37 PM
Damn dlippiel...

spreading your pro-Dutchmen sentiments across multiple boards...:D.

I think that daughter of yours will grow up to be an engineer.. any ideas on where she might matriculate? 

Heah stim when you have lost four in a row you've got to take shots where you can get them  ;D! Being realistic dlippiel knows there are few, if any opportunities.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on July 30, 2009, 11:57:23 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on July 30, 2009, 10:02:49 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on July 30, 2009, 09:58:02 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on July 30, 2009, 08:50:55 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on July 30, 2009, 05:24:05 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on July 29, 2009, 08:59:08 AM
On the topic of NEFC teams playing outside of the conference:

I am glad to see that teams are starting to branch out.  A couple of years ago the NEFC was the joke of D III football.  MOST teams would stay in their comfort zones and play teams that they could beat.  Endicott played out of conference games from the start against teams like WPI, RPI, and Hartwick.  It helped them at the time, but as we can all see they've dropped off.

Maybe with the power teams (Curry, Plymouth State) playing OOC games the NEFC can get to another level.

dlippiel feels that Curry has moved on to that next level and has earned a certain amount of respect on an East region level. dlippiel can tell you this, the next NCAA game Curry plays they will definitely be taken seriously by all. Plymoth St still has a way to go but made strides last season. As far as the rest of the NEFC is concerned, the conference needs a few more OOC wins and/or NCAA wins by other teams to go to that next level. dlippiel will say one thing...

LET'S GO ENDICOTT!

Dlipp, dont get carried away.

They beat an Ithaca team without its starting QB and RB and then got smoked by an average Cortland team by 4 TDs......Lets settle down with the respect card.

dlippiel hears ya Utah and agrees to an extent. dlippiel just looks back at how much he hammered the NEFC, specifically Curry, and even more so Wick for losing to Curry in the NCAA's and feels like in some ways he owes Curry a bit of respect. Regarding the Ithaca game dlippiel was still blown away with the Curry Victory at Ithaca. He felt that even with Grastorf (the back up QB) if the bombers were really that much better than the purple people they would have handled that NCAA game at home. Hence Curry earned some respect there. Yet dlippiel does tend to get extreme before he backs off and gets more realistic. This seems to be one of those occasions.

Oh Curry is a decent team don't get me wrong.  They have the potential to beat anyone.  Ive seen them a bunch of times and was only suprised they beat Ithaca because of the history, not because of what I saw on the field by Curry.  They are big, physical and athletic.  When they beat Coast Guard for the NEFC championship game 2 years ago you would not believe how much smaller CG was than Curry.  That gave me a small impression that Curry simply wasn't athletic enough to compete with an E8 champ.

I don't want to make that many excuses except I thought Ithaca was twice the team Cortland was the last two years.  I mean, they were the better team in both games.

I say Alfred beats Umass by 17 and Bentley beats Curry by 21.


Historically, Coast Guard has always been very small.....tons of heart, but very small.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballguy32 on July 31, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Curry is a good football team, but the league is catching up and they are not getting better. Despite the NCAA win last season they are not getting better and it is all about the athletes they have. They are unsound in so many things they do because they had a better athlete.

As other teams get better recruiting classes and get the same athlete Curry has, they are going to be in for a big surprise. They no longer will be able to blitz and play man on a every play. It's only a matter of time.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on August 01, 2009, 12:39:49 AM
Quote from: footballguy32 on July 31, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Curry is a good football team, but the league is catching up and they are not getting better. Despite the NCAA win last season they are not getting better and it is all about the athletes they have. They are unsound in so many things they do because they had a better athlete.

As other teams get better recruiting classes and get the same athlete Curry has, they are going to be in for a big surprise. They no longer will be able to blitz and play man on a every play. It's only a matter of time.

Prove it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pumkinattack on August 01, 2009, 10:01:33 AM
Hobart blitzes early and often in most games (and ususally struggle when they don't) and every time they beat Union, RPI, Ithaca, etc. the refrain is that Hobart was less talented, so talent and the ability to blitz frequently and effectively aren't necessarily related. 

Coach Cragg's been doing it for 15 years.  Far as I'm concerned we haven't blitzed RPI enough. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on August 01, 2009, 10:14:18 AM
Quote from: pumkinattack on August 01, 2009, 10:01:33 AM
Hobart blitzes early and often in most games (and ususally struggle when they don't) and every time they beat Union, RPI, Ithaca, etc. the refrain is that Hobart was less talented, so talent and the ability to blitz frequently and effectively aren't necessarily related. 

Coach Cragg's been doing it for 15 years.  Far as I'm concerned we haven't blitzed RPI enough. 

Kinda hard to get through those 3 inch splits when Blitzing...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on August 01, 2009, 06:14:03 PM
Quote from: footballguy32 on July 31, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Curry is a good football team, but the league is catching up and they are not getting better. Despite the NCAA win last season they are not getting better and it is all about the athletes they have. They are unsound in so many things they do because they had a better athlete.

As other teams get better recruiting classes and get the same athlete Curry has, they are going to be in for a big surprise. They no longer will be able to blitz and play man on a every play. It's only a matter of time.

Curry's record since 2003:

2003 (11-1, 6-0 NEFC Boyd)
2004 (9-2, 5-1 NEFC Boyd)
2005 (9-3, 6-0 NEFC Boyd)
2006 (11-1, 7-0 NEFC Boyd)
2007 (12-1, 7-0 NEFC Boyd)
2008 (10-2, 6-1 NEFC Boyd)

Their record in conference in the last six years is 37-3....it's obvious they haven't been good in conference and the rest of the NEFC is right on their tail ??? I am sure they are in for a huge surprise.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballguy32 on August 01, 2009, 08:18:17 PM
Just wait and see. I think you will be very surprised this year. Hahahahaha.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pumkinattack on August 01, 2009, 09:21:53 PM
If Curry doesn't win the NEFC AQ, then I'm changing the NEFC's odds of winning a playoff game from 15% to .005%.  HA HA HA HA
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on August 02, 2009, 04:15:13 PM
Quote from: pumkinattack on August 01, 2009, 09:21:53 PM
If Curry doesn't win the NEFC AQ, then I'm changing the NEFC's odds of winning a playoff game from 15% to .005%.  HA HA HA HA

Come Pumkin you know it is less than that....how bout .001%

The only other team in the NEFC that has a chance of winning a conference game is Plymouth and they have a long way to go. FootballGuy you have to be kidding yourself if you think teams like Salve, CG, Maine, Fitchburg or any of them have a shot at all to win the conference let alone a playoff game and what is Curry unsound in?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballguy32 on August 02, 2009, 05:59:04 PM
They have a defense that is completely unsound, and cortland exposed it if you watched the game. Believe it or not this league is based on recruiting, only a few teams have a coaching staff that would be considered quality.

For Curry they have both. All I'm saying is that, as the few other teams with quality coaching staffs get better recruits they will also expose Curry or at least force them to make some changes.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on August 02, 2009, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 01, 2009, 12:39:49 AM
Quote from: footballguy32 on July 31, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Curry is a good football team, but the league is catching up and they are not getting better. Despite the NCAA win last season they are not getting better and it is all about the athletes they have. They are unsound in so many things they do because they had a better athlete.

As other teams get better recruiting classes and get the same athlete Curry has, they are going to be in for a big surprise. They no longer will be able to blitz and play man on a every play. It's only a matter of time.

Prove it.

Didnt Plymouth do that?
Manhandled them.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pumkinattack on August 03, 2009, 08:21:18 AM
Hasn't everyone on this board been crying during the stronger economy of 2004 - 2006 that the UMass schools pay the coaches part time wages that force them to work at McDonalds to supplement their income?  If so, how are the other schools going to upgrade their coaching staff's and recruiting when budgets are getting slashed?

It's not like Cortland is the first team to shred Curry.  If you don't follow the other eastern conferences, everyone knew Hartwick would embarrass itself as they gave up 68 pts to Utica the week prior.  Ithaca was a truly good win, but teams outside the NEFC have shred Curry plenty in the playoffs.  Hobart took it to them in 2004 only to get beat soundly (that's putting it mildly) by a decent but not great Rowan team the following week. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on August 03, 2009, 09:26:33 AM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on August 02, 2009, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 01, 2009, 12:39:49 AM
Quote from: footballguy32 on July 31, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Curry is a good football team, but the league is catching up and they are not getting better. Despite the NCAA win last season they are not getting better and it is all about the athletes they have. They are unsound in so many things they do because they had a better athlete.

As other teams get better recruiting classes and get the same athlete Curry has, they are going to be in for a big surprise. They no longer will be able to blitz and play man on a every play. It's only a matter of time.

Prove it.

Didnt Plymouth do that?
Manhandled them.

Didn't Curry win the NEFC for the past 6 years?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on August 03, 2009, 09:57:10 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 03, 2009, 09:26:33 AM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on August 02, 2009, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 01, 2009, 12:39:49 AM
Quote from: footballguy32 on July 31, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Curry is a good football team, but the league is catching up and they are not getting better. Despite the NCAA win last season they are not getting better and it is all about the athletes they have. They are unsound in so many things they do because they had a better athlete.

As other teams get better recruiting classes and get the same athlete Curry has, they are going to be in for a big surprise. They no longer will be able to blitz and play man on a every play. It's only a matter of time.

Prove it.

Didnt Plymouth do that?
Manhandled them.

Didn't Curry win the NEFC for the past 6 years?

Oct. 25  1:00 PM  at Plymouth State * •  L, 28-17   

Curry lost this game at PState last year and PState deserves credit for the win no doubt. Yet Curry still sits on top until Pstate or another NEFC team makes a run like Curry has the past six years and/or wins at least one NCAA playoff game (which I don't see happening anytime soon). You just can't **** with a 37-3 record in conference thats all. For that purple drank to have fought through so much doubt from all around D3 football for the past three/four years and then to be questioned as not dominating their own conference is crazy.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on August 03, 2009, 10:15:49 AM
Quote from: dlippiel on August 03, 2009, 09:57:10 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 03, 2009, 09:26:33 AM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on August 02, 2009, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 01, 2009, 12:39:49 AM
Quote from: footballguy32 on July 31, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Curry is a good football team, but the league is catching up and they are not getting better. Despite the NCAA win last season they are not getting better and it is all about the athletes they have. They are unsound in so many things they do because they had a better athlete.

As other teams get better recruiting classes and get the same athlete Curry has, they are going to be in for a big surprise. They no longer will be able to blitz and play man on a every play. It's only a matter of time.

Prove it.

Didnt Plymouth do that?
Manhandled them.

Didn't Curry win the NEFC for the past 6 years?

Oct. 25  1:00 PM  at Plymouth State * •  L, 28-17   

Curry lost this game at PState last year and PState deserves credit for the win no doubt. Yet Curry still sits on top until Pstate or another NEFC team makes a run like Curry has the past six years and/or wins at least one NCAA playoff game (which I don't see happening anytime soon). You just can't **** with a 37-3 record in conference thats all. For that purple drank to have fought through so much doubt from all around D3 football for the past three/four years and then to be questioned as not dominating their own conference is crazy.

Ahh yes, but of course.  Don't mind LD, he is extremely hungover on this fine Monday morning.  Regardless, 1 loss in the Championship game doesn't mean the league has caught up.  From my understanding, Plymouth had a pretty good team last year, but looks to be a one-year wonder.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on August 05, 2009, 05:21:43 PM
Congrats to Curry for at least getting some votes.

Haven't cracked the top 25 yet, but maybe it's only a matter of time if things keep going the way they are
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on August 12, 2009, 08:48:47 AM
Many teams are starting practices this week & next week. College football is back!

It's still early in the season but what players/teams/matchups are you looking forward to watching this year?

Personally I am interested to see how Salve Regina and WNEC do. They were a bit of a roller coaster last year and it'll be ineteresting to see if they can build into anything
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on August 12, 2009, 01:29:53 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 03, 2009, 10:15:49 AM
Quote from: dlippiel on August 03, 2009, 09:57:10 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 03, 2009, 09:26:33 AM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on August 02, 2009, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 01, 2009, 12:39:49 AM
Quote from: footballguy32 on July 31, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Curry is a good football team, but the league is catching up and they are not getting better. Despite the NCAA win last season they are not getting better and it is all about the athletes they have. They are unsound in so many things they do because they had a better athlete.

As other teams get better recruiting classes and get the same athlete Curry has, they are going to be in for a big surprise. They no longer will be able to blitz and play man on a every play. It's only a matter of time.

Prove it.

Didnt Plymouth do that?
Manhandled them.

Didn't Curry win the NEFC for the past 6 years?

Oct. 25  1:00 PM  at Plymouth State * •  L, 28-17   

Curry lost this game at PState last year and PState deserves credit for the win no doubt. Yet Curry still sits on top until Pstate or another NEFC team makes a run like Curry has the past six years and/or wins at least one NCAA playoff game (which I don't see happening anytime soon). You just can't **** with a 37-3 record in conference thats all. For that purple drank to have fought through so much doubt from all around D3 football for the past three/four years and then to be questioned as not dominating their own conference is crazy.

Ahh yes, but of course.  Don't mind LD, he is extremely hungover on this fine Monday morning.  Regardless, 1 loss in the Championship game doesn't mean the league has caught up.  From my understanding, Plymouth had a pretty good team last year, but looks to be a one-year wonder.

1 Year Wonder?  I am reading through the past few posts, and to see how many feel that Curry is historically the New England power?  I can remember a time not too long ago when Plymouth State was a dominant FFC member that needed to travel to upstate NY, and NJ for out of conference games because the NEFC squads left much to be desired. 

They did have a few down season earlier this decade, but winning the NEFC last season shouldn't be a surprise.  It was just a matter of time. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on August 12, 2009, 02:15:37 PM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on August 12, 2009, 01:29:53 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 03, 2009, 10:15:49 AM
Quote from: dlippiel on August 03, 2009, 09:57:10 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 03, 2009, 09:26:33 AM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on August 02, 2009, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 01, 2009, 12:39:49 AM
Quote from: footballguy32 on July 31, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Curry is a good football team, but the league is catching up and they are not getting better. Despite the NCAA win last season they are not getting better and it is all about the athletes they have. They are unsound in so many things they do because they had a better athlete.

As other teams get better recruiting classes and get the same athlete Curry has, they are going to be in for a big surprise. They no longer will be able to blitz and play man on a every play. It's only a matter of time.

Prove it.

Didnt Plymouth do that?
Manhandled them.

Didn't Curry win the NEFC for the past 6 years?

Oct. 25  1:00 PM  at Plymouth State * •  L, 28-17   

Curry lost this game at PState last year and PState deserves credit for the win no doubt. Yet Curry still sits on top until Pstate or another NEFC team makes a run like Curry has the past six years and/or wins at least one NCAA playoff game (which I don't see happening anytime soon). You just can't **** with a 37-3 record in conference thats all. For that purple drank to have fought through so much doubt from all around D3 football for the past three/four years and then to be questioned as not dominating their own conference is crazy.

Ahh yes, but of course.  Don't mind LD, he is extremely hungover on this fine Monday morning.  Regardless, 1 loss in the Championship game doesn't mean the league has caught up.  From my understanding, Plymouth had a pretty good team last year, but looks to be a one-year wonder.

1 Year Wonder?  I am reading through the past few posts, and to see how many feel that Curry is historically the New England power?  I can remember a time not too long ago when Plymouth State was a dominant FFC member that needed to travel to upstate NY, and NJ for out of conference games because the NEFC squads left much to be desired. 

They did have a few down season earlier this decade, but winning the NEFC last season shouldn't be a surprise.  It was just a matter of time. 

dlippiel hears ya panther pride but no one in that division can **** with  Curry's accomplishments in the past 6-7 years. To say because PState won the title last year they are the new power in the NEFC is simply wrong (not saying you said that). Hence Pstate losing to Cortland last year and Curry beating Ithaca at Ithaca made it clear to dlippiel that Curry is on top and they have not been knocked off yet. Would dlippiel like to see some parity in the NEFC? Absolutely, dlippiel would like to see the NEFC grow in strength and provide the East with more depth. When you look at Curry's record and the fact that they are the only NEFC team to win 1 let alone 2 NCAA games the discussion of them not ruling the NEFC is moot.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on August 12, 2009, 03:14:49 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on August 12, 2009, 02:15:37 PM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on August 12, 2009, 01:29:53 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 03, 2009, 10:15:49 AM
Quote from: dlippiel on August 03, 2009, 09:57:10 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 03, 2009, 09:26:33 AM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on August 02, 2009, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 01, 2009, 12:39:49 AM
Quote from: footballguy32 on July 31, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Curry is a good football team, but the league is catching up and they are not getting better. Despite the NCAA win last season they are not getting better and it is all about the athletes they have. They are unsound in so many things they do because they had a better athlete.

As other teams get better recruiting classes and get the same athlete Curry has, they are going to be in for a big surprise. They no longer will be able to blitz and play man on a every play. It's only a matter of time.

Prove it.

Didnt Plymouth do that?
Manhandled them.

Didn't Curry win the NEFC for the past 6 years?

Oct. 25  1:00 PM  at Plymouth State * •  L, 28-17   

Curry lost this game at PState last year and PState deserves credit for the win no doubt. Yet Curry still sits on top until Pstate or another NEFC team makes a run like Curry has the past six years and/or wins at least one NCAA playoff game (which I don't see happening anytime soon). You just can't **** with a 37-3 record in conference thats all. For that purple drank to have fought through so much doubt from all around D3 football for the past three/four years and then to be questioned as not dominating their own conference is crazy.

Ahh yes, but of course.  Don't mind LD, he is extremely hungover on this fine Monday morning.  Regardless, 1 loss in the Championship game doesn't mean the league has caught up.  From my understanding, Plymouth had a pretty good team last year, but looks to be a one-year wonder.

1 Year Wonder?  I am reading through the past few posts, and to see how many feel that Curry is historically the New England power?  I can remember a time not too long ago when Plymouth State was a dominant FFC member that needed to travel to upstate NY, and NJ for out of conference games because the NEFC squads left much to be desired. 

They did have a few down season earlier this decade, but winning the NEFC last season shouldn't be a surprise.  It was just a matter of time. 

dlippiel hears ya panther pride but no one in that division can **** with  Curry's accomplishments in the past 6-7 years. To say because PState won the title last year they are the new power in the NEFC is simply wrong (not saying you said that). Hence Pstate losing to Cortland last year and Curry beating Ithaca at Ithaca made it clear to dlippiel that Curry is on top and they have not been knocked off yet. Would dlippiel like to see some parity in the NEFC? Absolutely, dlippiel would like to see the NEFC grow in strength and provide the East with more depth. When you look at Curry's record and the fact that they are the only NEFC team to win 1 let alone 2 NCAA games the discussion of them not ruling the NEFC is moot.


Well put, Young Wiseman.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on August 12, 2009, 04:17:44 PM
Quote from: Union89 on August 12, 2009, 03:14:49 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on August 12, 2009, 02:15:37 PM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on August 12, 2009, 01:29:53 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 03, 2009, 10:15:49 AM
Quote from: dlippiel on August 03, 2009, 09:57:10 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 03, 2009, 09:26:33 AM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on August 02, 2009, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 01, 2009, 12:39:49 AM
Quote from: footballguy32 on July 31, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Curry is a good football team, but the league is catching up and they are not getting better. Despite the NCAA win last season they are not getting better and it is all about the athletes they have. They are unsound in so many things they do because they had a better athlete.

As other teams get better recruiting classes and get the same athlete Curry has, they are going to be in for a big surprise. They no longer will be able to blitz and play man on a every play. It's only a matter of time.

Prove it.

Didnt Plymouth do that?
Manhandled them.

Didn't Curry win the NEFC for the past 6 years?

Oct. 25  1:00 PM  at Plymouth State * •  L, 28-17   

Curry lost this game at PState last year and PState deserves credit for the win no doubt. Yet Curry still sits on top until Pstate or another NEFC team makes a run like Curry has the past six years and/or wins at least one NCAA playoff game (which I don't see happening anytime soon). You just can't **** with a 37-3 record in conference thats all. For that purple drank to have fought through so much doubt from all around D3 football for the past three/four years and then to be questioned as not dominating their own conference is crazy.

Ahh yes, but of course.  Don't mind LD, he is extremely hungover on this fine Monday morning.  Regardless, 1 loss in the Championship game doesn't mean the league has caught up.  From my understanding, Plymouth had a pretty good team last year, but looks to be a one-year wonder.

1 Year Wonder?  I am reading through the past few posts, and to see how many feel that Curry is historically the New England power?  I can remember a time not too long ago when Plymouth State was a dominant FFC member that needed to travel to upstate NY, and NJ for out of conference games because the NEFC squads left much to be desired. 

They did have a few down season earlier this decade, but winning the NEFC last season shouldn't be a surprise.  It was just a matter of time. 

dlippiel hears ya panther pride but no one in that division can **** with  Curry's accomplishments in the past 6-7 years. To say because PState won the title last year they are the new power in the NEFC is simply wrong (not saying you said that). Hence Pstate losing to Cortland last year and Curry beating Ithaca at Ithaca made it clear to dlippiel that Curry is on top and they have not been knocked off yet. Would dlippiel like to see some parity in the NEFC? Absolutely, dlippiel would like to see the NEFC grow in strength and provide the East with more depth. When you look at Curry's record and the fact that they are the only NEFC team to win 1 let alone 2 NCAA games the discussion of them not ruling the NEFC is moot.


Well put, Young Wiseman.....

I see what panther pride is saying though.  Although you can't argue that Plymouth is the best NE team the last 10 years, I wouldn't call them a one year wonder.  They were better than Curry last year.  They beat them and both teams got smoked by an average Cortland team.  (Ok, maybe above average, but I was not impressed with them).

Plymouth St. has the potential to be a top team in the NEFC. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on August 12, 2009, 08:37:26 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on August 12, 2009, 04:17:44 PM
Quote from: Union89 on August 12, 2009, 03:14:49 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on August 12, 2009, 02:15:37 PM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on August 12, 2009, 01:29:53 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 03, 2009, 10:15:49 AM
Quote from: dlippiel on August 03, 2009, 09:57:10 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 03, 2009, 09:26:33 AM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on August 02, 2009, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 01, 2009, 12:39:49 AM
Quote from: footballguy32 on July 31, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Curry is a good football team, but the league is catching up and they are not getting better. Despite the NCAA win last season they are not getting better and it is all about the athletes they have. They are unsound in so many things they do because they had a better athlete.

As other teams get better recruiting classes and get the same athlete Curry has, they are going to be in for a big surprise. They no longer will be able to blitz and play man on a every play. It's only a matter of time.

Prove it.

Didnt Plymouth do that?
Manhandled them.

Didn't Curry win the NEFC for the past 6 years?

Oct. 25  1:00 PM  at Plymouth State * •  L, 28-17   

Curry lost this game at PState last year and PState deserves credit for the win no doubt. Yet Curry still sits on top until Pstate or another NEFC team makes a run like Curry has the past six years and/or wins at least one NCAA playoff game (which I don't see happening anytime soon). You just can't **** with a 37-3 record in conference thats all. For that purple drank to have fought through so much doubt from all around D3 football for the past three/four years and then to be questioned as not dominating their own conference is crazy.

Ahh yes, but of course.  Don't mind LD, he is extremely hungover on this fine Monday morning.  Regardless, 1 loss in the Championship game doesn't mean the league has caught up.  From my understanding, Plymouth had a pretty good team last year, but looks to be a one-year wonder.

1 Year Wonder?  I am reading through the past few posts, and to see how many feel that Curry is historically the New England power?  I can remember a time not too long ago when Plymouth State was a dominant FFC member that needed to travel to upstate NY, and NJ for out of conference games because the NEFC squads left much to be desired. 

They did have a few down season earlier this decade, but winning the NEFC last season shouldn't be a surprise.  It was just a matter of time. 

dlippiel hears ya panther pride but no one in that division can **** with  Curry's accomplishments in the past 6-7 years. To say because PState won the title last year they are the new power in the NEFC is simply wrong (not saying you said that). Hence Pstate losing to Cortland last year and Curry beating Ithaca at Ithaca made it clear to dlippiel that Curry is on top and they have not been knocked off yet. Would dlippiel like to see some parity in the NEFC? Absolutely, dlippiel would like to see the NEFC grow in strength and provide the East with more depth. When you look at Curry's record and the fact that they are the only NEFC team to win 1 let alone 2 NCAA games the discussion of them not ruling the NEFC is moot.


Well put, Young Wiseman.....

I see what panther pride is saying though.  Although you can't argue that Plymouth is the best NE team the last 10 years, I wouldn't call them a one year wonder.  They were better than Curry last year.  They beat them and both teams got smoked by an average Cortland team.  (Ok, maybe above average, but I was not impressed with them).

Plymouth St. has the potential to be a top team in the NEFC. 


Definetly agree with you 3 guys. Definetly great to see a program like PSC correct whatever was holding them down for 4 years or whatever it was. Glad they are off the mat and making a name for themselves again. Beating Curry 1 year was a statement.....BUT they have to keep beating Curry AND beat some LL/E8/NJAC teams in OOC games/NCAAs or ECACs to be able to say that they are truly a regional power. They have been there before so it is certainly possible. But still too early to go that far......
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on August 12, 2009, 08:48:48 PM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on August 12, 2009, 08:37:26 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on August 12, 2009, 04:17:44 PM
Quote from: Union89 on August 12, 2009, 03:14:49 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on August 12, 2009, 02:15:37 PM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on August 12, 2009, 01:29:53 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 03, 2009, 10:15:49 AM
Quote from: dlippiel on August 03, 2009, 09:57:10 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 03, 2009, 09:26:33 AM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on August 02, 2009, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 01, 2009, 12:39:49 AM
Quote from: footballguy32 on July 31, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Curry is a good football team, but the league is catching up and they are not getting better. Despite the NCAA win last season they are not getting better and it is all about the athletes they have. They are unsound in so many things they do because they had a better athlete.

As other teams get better recruiting classes and get the same athlete Curry has, they are going to be in for a big surprise. They no longer will be able to blitz and play man on a every play. It's only a matter of time.

Prove it.

Didnt Plymouth do that?
Manhandled them.

Didn't Curry win the NEFC for the past 6 years?

Oct. 25  1:00 PM  at Plymouth State * •  L, 28-17   

Curry lost this game at PState last year and PState deserves credit for the win no doubt. Yet Curry still sits on top until Pstate or another NEFC team makes a run like Curry has the past six years and/or wins at least one NCAA playoff game (which I don't see happening anytime soon). You just can't **** with a 37-3 record in conference thats all. For that purple drank to have fought through so much doubt from all around D3 football for the past three/four years and then to be questioned as not dominating their own conference is crazy.

Ahh yes, but of course.  Don't mind LD, he is extremely hungover on this fine Monday morning.  Regardless, 1 loss in the Championship game doesn't mean the league has caught up.  From my understanding, Plymouth had a pretty good team last year, but looks to be a one-year wonder.

1 Year Wonder?  I am reading through the past few posts, and to see how many feel that Curry is historically the New England power?  I can remember a time not too long ago when Plymouth State was a dominant FFC member that needed to travel to upstate NY, and NJ for out of conference games because the NEFC squads left much to be desired. 

They did have a few down season earlier this decade, but winning the NEFC last season shouldn't be a surprise.  It was just a matter of time. 

dlippiel hears ya panther pride but no one in that division can **** with  Curry's accomplishments in the past 6-7 years. To say because PState won the title last year they are the new power in the NEFC is simply wrong (not saying you said that). Hence Pstate losing to Cortland last year and Curry beating Ithaca at Ithaca made it clear to dlippiel that Curry is on top and they have not been knocked off yet. Would dlippiel like to see some parity in the NEFC? Absolutely, dlippiel would like to see the NEFC grow in strength and provide the East with more depth. When you look at Curry's record and the fact that they are the only NEFC team to win 1 let alone 2 NCAA games the discussion of them not ruling the NEFC is moot.


Well put, Young Wiseman.....

I see what panther pride is saying though.  Although you can't argue that Plymouth is the best NE team the last 10 years, I wouldn't call them a one year wonder.  They were better than Curry last year.  They beat them and both teams got smoked by an average Cortland team.  (Ok, maybe above average, but I was not impressed with them).

Plymouth St. has the potential to be a top team in the NEFC. 


Definetly agree with you 3 guys. Definetly great to see a program like PSC correct whatever was holding them down for 4 years or whatever it was. Glad they are off the mat and making a name for themselves again. Beating Curry 1 year was a statement.....BUT they have to keep beating Curry AND beat some LL/E8/NJAC teams in OOC games/NCAAs or ECACs to be able to say that they are truly a regional power. They have been there before so it is certainly possible. But still too early to go that far......


My main point is that Plymouth State has only been in the NEFC for a few years.  If you want to talk NEFC history, look no further than the White Mountains....9 out of 10 NEFC titles in the 80's.  When Curry has a run like that we can talk a little more about history.  We are also talking about a program that carried the highest all-time D3 program winning % into 2000 and what became a low in the program to start this decade. 

They will compete year in and year out.....because of that Panther Pride.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on August 12, 2009, 08:59:16 PM
Plymouth winning percentage was stacked with a lot of cupcakes from 1975-1995 though.  And there are a lot of cupcakes from 1995-2009 you can say as well.

They were almost there in the 1980s and 1990s but never really did anything outside of New England.  I was on a team that played them in 1994.  They were good but would not have been 10-0 playing upstate teams (or AIC and Springfield).  The smaller playoff field may have hurt them a few years as well.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on August 12, 2009, 09:01:23 PM
I have been following the discussions for a while now and its good to see the board getting some action especially from the guys from the LL and E8 conferences...

Curry is the team to beat as they are every year... until Plymouth beats them 2-3 years in a row and wins a playoff game they are not the team to beat... i understand pantherpride points about their earlier success in the NEFC but Pstate then became one of the worst teams in the country...  

As much as we want parity in the NEFC I think we will find more of it with Coast Guard / Bridgewater this year making themselves the primary contenders to beat Curry... Plymouth State is replacing a ton including thier starting qb and running back... as much as the homers from plymouth state love to talk on this site about their team... i dont think they will finish in the top 2-3 teams on their side of the division...

Curry taking on Bentley and Widener is great... If Curry is able to beat Widener then i presume they will run the table in the NEFC and finish 10-1 with their lone loss to bentley... if that is the case we will hear plenty of grumblings from all the other east posters because that win could possibly give Curry a considerably higher playoff ranking falling between a 3-5 which will give them a reasonable chance at another playoff win...

A loss for Curry means nothing against Widener... their first two games will provide them with enough competition that the rest of the NEFC will seem even easier then usual...

I love the fact Salve, Fitchburg, Endicott are playing some tough OOC games to start the year... i truly believe Salve can beat WPI in a shocker and gain some respect in the conference since WPI was a 7-3 team last year (some lucky wins though). I also believe any NEFC team can beat Hartwick especially without Boltus and thier horrendous D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on August 12, 2009, 09:40:20 PM

dlippiel thinks this statement about Wick is hilarious and basically true. Again dlippiel does root for wick at times but it is just so obvious that they were a one man team with a few teamates up for best supporting roles (Phelan). Hatwick will never live down losing to WNEC a couple years back. Of course if they can still get W's and their D stops someone in 09 than dlippiel will have to retract this statement 8).
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Reno Hightower on August 13, 2009, 08:59:17 AM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on August 12, 2009, 08:48:48 PM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on August 12, 2009, 08:37:26 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on August 12, 2009, 04:17:44 PM
Quote from: Union89 on August 12, 2009, 03:14:49 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on August 12, 2009, 02:15:37 PM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on August 12, 2009, 01:29:53 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 03, 2009, 10:15:49 AM
Quote from: dlippiel on August 03, 2009, 09:57:10 AM
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Quote from: Reno Hightower on August 02, 2009, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 01, 2009, 12:39:49 AM
Quote from: footballguy32 on July 31, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Curry is a good football team, but the league is catching up and they are not getting better. Despite the NCAA win last season they are not getting better and it is all about the athletes they have. They are unsound in so many things they do because they had a better athlete.

As other teams get better recruiting classes and get the same athlete Curry has, they are going to be in for a big surprise. They no longer will be able to blitz and play man on a every play. It's only a matter of time.

Prove it.

Didnt Plymouth do that?
Manhandled them.

Didn't Curry win the NEFC for the past 6 years?

Oct. 25  1:00 PM  at Plymouth State * •  L, 28-17   

Curry lost this game at PState last year and PState deserves credit for the win no doubt. Yet Curry still sits on top until Pstate or another NEFC team makes a run like Curry has the past six years and/or wins at least one NCAA playoff game (which I don't see happening anytime soon). You just can't **** with a 37-3 record in conference thats all. For that purple drank to have fought through so much doubt from all around D3 football for the past three/four years and then to be questioned as not dominating their own conference is crazy.

Ahh yes, but of course.  Don't mind LD, he is extremely hungover on this fine Monday morning.  Regardless, 1 loss in the Championship game doesn't mean the league has caught up.  From my understanding, Plymouth had a pretty good team last year, but looks to be a one-year wonder.

1 Year Wonder?  I am reading through the past few posts, and to see how many feel that Curry is historically the New England power?  I can remember a time not too long ago when Plymouth State was a dominant FFC member that needed to travel to upstate NY, and NJ for out of conference games because the NEFC squads left much to be desired. 

They did have a few down season earlier this decade, but winning the NEFC last season shouldn't be a surprise.  It was just a matter of time. 

dlippiel hears ya panther pride but no one in that division can **** with  Curry's accomplishments in the past 6-7 years. To say because PState won the title last year they are the new power in the NEFC is simply wrong (not saying you said that). Hence Pstate losing to Cortland last year and Curry beating Ithaca at Ithaca made it clear to dlippiel that Curry is on top and they have not been knocked off yet. Would dlippiel like to see some parity in the NEFC? Absolutely, dlippiel would like to see the NEFC grow in strength and provide the East with more depth. When you look at Curry's record and the fact that they are the only NEFC team to win 1 let alone 2 NCAA games the discussion of them not ruling the NEFC is moot.


Well put, Young Wiseman.....

I see what panther pride is saying though.  Although you can't argue that Plymouth is the best NE team the last 10 years, I wouldn't call them a one year wonder.  They were better than Curry last year.  They beat them and both teams got smoked by an average Cortland team.  (Ok, maybe above average, but I was not impressed with them).

Plymouth St. has the potential to be a top team in the NEFC. 


Definetly agree with you 3 guys. Definetly great to see a program like PSC correct whatever was holding them down for 4 years or whatever it was. Glad they are off the mat and making a name for themselves again. Beating Curry 1 year was a statement.....BUT they have to keep beating Curry AND beat some LL/E8/NJAC teams in OOC games/NCAAs or ECACs to be able to say that they are truly a regional power. They have been there before so it is certainly possible. But still too early to go that far......


My main point is that Plymouth State has only been in the NEFC for a few years.  If you want to talk NEFC history, look no further than the White Mountains....9 out of 10 NEFC titles in the 80's.  When Curry has a run like that we can talk a little more about history.  We are also talking about a program that carried the highest all-time D3 program winning % into 2000 and what became a low in the program to start this decade. 

They will compete year in and year out.....because of that Panther Pride.


This is a big year for Plymouth. They NEED to prove that they can lose players and still win year in and year out. That is what they did in the 80's, parts of the 90's and up until about 2001 I believe? If they can win the NEFC this year they will have gone a long way towards that. But Curry winning it 6 years in a row shows that they are a quality program because they refuel, they dont rebuild. This is the step that Plymouth has to take now.
We all understand your point pantherpride and I think you are seeing that we agree with you BUT you are putting the cart in front of the horse a little bit here. Plymouth still has a lot to prove.

The fact that this is a discussion shows that the program isnt what it once was. Remember when Don Brown was the coach there? Man, domination was the word!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on August 13, 2009, 01:04:24 PM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on August 13, 2009, 08:59:17 AM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on August 12, 2009, 08:48:48 PM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on August 12, 2009, 08:37:26 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on August 12, 2009, 04:17:44 PM
Quote from: Union89 on August 12, 2009, 03:14:49 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on August 12, 2009, 02:15:37 PM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on August 12, 2009, 01:29:53 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 03, 2009, 10:15:49 AM
Quote from: dlippiel on August 03, 2009, 09:57:10 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 03, 2009, 09:26:33 AM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on August 02, 2009, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 01, 2009, 12:39:49 AM
Quote from: footballguy32 on July 31, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Curry is a good football team, but the league is catching up and they are not getting better. Despite the NCAA win last season they are not getting better and it is all about the athletes they have. They are unsound in so many things they do because they had a better athlete.

As other teams get better recruiting classes and get the same athlete Curry has, they are going to be in for a big surprise. They no longer will be able to blitz and play man on a every play. It's only a matter of time.

Prove it.

Didnt Plymouth do that?
Manhandled them.

Didn't Curry win the NEFC for the past 6 years?

Oct. 25  1:00 PM  at Plymouth State * •  L, 28-17   

Curry lost this game at PState last year and PState deserves credit for the win no doubt. Yet Curry still sits on top until Pstate or another NEFC team makes a run like Curry has the past six years and/or wins at least one NCAA playoff game (which I don't see happening anytime soon). You just can't **** with a 37-3 record in conference thats all. For that purple drank to have fought through so much doubt from all around D3 football for the past three/four years and then to be questioned as not dominating their own conference is crazy.

Ahh yes, but of course.  Don't mind LD, he is extremely hungover on this fine Monday morning.  Regardless, 1 loss in the Championship game doesn't mean the league has caught up.  From my understanding, Plymouth had a pretty good team last year, but looks to be a one-year wonder.

1 Year Wonder?  I am reading through the past few posts, and to see how many feel that Curry is historically the New England power?  I can remember a time not too long ago when Plymouth State was a dominant FFC member that needed to travel to upstate NY, and NJ for out of conference games because the NEFC squads left much to be desired. 

They did have a few down season earlier this decade, but winning the NEFC last season shouldn't be a surprise.  It was just a matter of time. 

dlippiel hears ya panther pride but no one in that division can **** with  Curry's accomplishments in the past 6-7 years. To say because PState won the title last year they are the new power in the NEFC is simply wrong (not saying you said that). Hence Pstate losing to Cortland last year and Curry beating Ithaca at Ithaca made it clear to dlippiel that Curry is on top and they have not been knocked off yet. Would dlippiel like to see some parity in the NEFC? Absolutely, dlippiel would like to see the NEFC grow in strength and provide the East with more depth. When you look at Curry's record and the fact that they are the only NEFC team to win 1 let alone 2 NCAA games the discussion of them not ruling the NEFC is moot.


Well put, Young Wiseman.....

I see what panther pride is saying though.  Although you can't argue that Plymouth is the best NE team the last 10 years, I wouldn't call them a one year wonder.  They were better than Curry last year.  They beat them and both teams got smoked by an average Cortland team.  (Ok, maybe above average, but I was not impressed with them).

Plymouth St. has the potential to be a top team in the NEFC. 


Definetly agree with you 3 guys. Definetly great to see a program like PSC correct whatever was holding them down for 4 years or whatever it was. Glad they are off the mat and making a name for themselves again. Beating Curry 1 year was a statement.....BUT they have to keep beating Curry AND beat some LL/E8/NJAC teams in OOC games/NCAAs or ECACs to be able to say that they are truly a regional power. They have been there before so it is certainly possible. But still too early to go that far......


My main point is that Plymouth State has only been in the NEFC for a few years.  If you want to talk NEFC history, look no further than the White Mountains....9 out of 10 NEFC titles in the 80's.  When Curry has a run like that we can talk a little more about history.  We are also talking about a program that carried the highest all-time D3 program winning % into 2000 and what became a low in the program to start this decade. 

They will compete year in and year out.....because of that Panther Pride.


This is a big year for Plymouth. They NEED to prove that they can lose players and still win year in and year out. That is what they did in the 80's, parts of the 90's and up until about 2001 I believe? If they can win the NEFC this year they will have gone a long way towards that. But Curry winning it 6 years in a row shows that they are a quality program because they refuel, they dont rebuild. This is the step that Plymouth has to take now.
We all understand your point pantherpride and I think you are seeing that we agree with you BUT you are putting the cart in front of the horse a little bit here. Plymouth still has a lot to prove.

The fact that this is a discussion shows that the program isnt what it once was. Remember when Don Brown was the coach there? Man, domination was the word!

I understand there is work to do.  It is hard not to take into consideration the way we were playing when I was there in the mid to late 90's.  Don Brown was the man, and now that he is Maryland's D- Coordinator, we know we had something special going on up there.  When Curry rolls into Bentley on their homecoming while Bently is the cream of the crop in The NE 10, as we did in '99 I'd be impressed.

This should be another interesting season all across D3.  It can't come soon enough.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on August 13, 2009, 01:20:21 PM
   panther pride is no match for that purple drank!    


sip sip sip!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: maxpower on August 13, 2009, 02:25:02 PM
Quote from: 'gro on August 13, 2009, 01:20:21 PM
   panther pride is no match for that purple drank!    


sip sip sip!

grimace looks chopped and screwed....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on August 14, 2009, 09:11:47 PM
as much as the NEFC has enjoyed some sort of success the past couple of years with Curry's 2 wins and the conference getting two playoff teams last year, my opinion is the conference will come back to earth. Most teams that will be contenders for the automatic bid have suffered huge losses at critical positions.

Curry QB, WR
Plymouth QB,WR, DLine
Bridgewater RB, Secondary
Westfield LB, QB, WR

the only team with extensive experience returning at all critical positions and most starters from last year is the Bogan champ Maine Maritime... I feel like they are the team to beat on that side and could very well win the division... remember just a few years ago they beat Curry... the only problem is Maine does not have the size to match up with any of the LL or E8 teams in terms of size up front to win...

This is why Curry is still our best chance at post season success even without Van Geisen... they have the majority of the D and most of thier O line returning which should give them enough talent to win the NEFC... unfortunately Van Giesen will be to much to make up come playoff time
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on August 15, 2009, 02:50:25 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on August 14, 2009, 09:11:47 PM
as much as the NEFC has enjoyed some sort of success the past couple of years with Curry's 2 wins and the conference getting two playoff teams last year, my opinion is the conference will come back to earth. Most teams that will be contenders for the automatic bid have suffered huge losses at critical positions.

Curry QB, WR
Plymouth QB,WR, DLine
Bridgewater RB, Secondary
Westfield LB, QB, WR

the only team with extensive experience returning at all critical positions and most starters from last year is the Bogan champ Maine Maritime... I feel like they are the team to beat on that side and could very well win the division... remember just a few years ago they beat Curry... the only problem is Maine does not have the size to match up with any of the LL or E8 teams in terms of size up front to win...

This is why Curry is still our best chance at post season success even without Van Geisen... they have the majority of the D and most of thier O line returning which should give them enough talent to win the NEFC... unfortunately Van Giesen will be to much to make up come playoff time

Boxer ,
how many games did you actually see PSU play last year? You are starting to give me running belly
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on August 22, 2009, 12:48:42 PM
NLNG,

is there something on my post you disagree with. I'm positive they lost thier starting QB and RB and some depth along the DLINE. Most of the players were 3-4 year starters. That will not be easy to replace. I saw Plymouth play twice last year and one was the Maine Maritime beating.

Plymouth has a two very good years in the NEFC, but this is the first time they will have to replace many key parts... remember this is just a pre season discussion... by week 5 all could change
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on August 22, 2009, 04:12:03 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on August 22, 2009, 12:48:42 PM
NLNG,

is there something on my post you disagree with. I'm positive they lost thier starting QB and RB and some depth along the DLINE. Most of the players were 3-4 year starters. That will not be easy to replace. I saw Plymouth play twice last year and one was the Maine Maritime beating.

Plymouth has a two very good years in the NEFC, but this is the first time they will have to replace many key parts... remember this is just a pre season discussion... by week 5 all could change

I'm curious what the other game were you at ? I just get annoyed when you can talk about them and really don't know whats going on . Yes we did lose a key running back ,yes we did lose a key QB, and yes we lost some key D-line members ,but we did have quality kids to step up in these positions . If you've been watching or reading about this team than you'd know that. My boy played that D-line last year so I know what I'm talking about. Watch a few more games and then comment

                                              'Nuff said"
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pumkinattack on August 22, 2009, 07:01:53 PM
Boxer's post seemed more valuable and informed than your spew.  In fact, don't you feel like a hypocrite after the garbage you smoked about the playoffs last year.  But yeah, Plymouth State is so loaded that they're minus 7 to Mt Union. 

Seeing a team twice in DIII makes on credible enough to speak and his comments were modest and informed.  If the players with numerous year starters, then the only time you would have seen the backup was in garbage time, which doesn't mean much. 

Plymouth State, first round route and out...Curry first round win over Ithaca (who trampled Cortland in the last regular season game of the year)

Nuff Said
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on August 22, 2009, 07:19:30 PM
+K pa
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on August 22, 2009, 07:51:24 PM
dlippiel will second the +k to pa. dlippiel will encourage all to post on here sharing their thoughts on any team and contributing to discussions  in a positive manner. dlippiel feels one does not have to "...watch a few more games," before they comment on a team. Boxer keep posting and doing your thing on here. Don't be discouraged by BS posts from those who try to intimidate others by trying to make them feel like they are not knowledgeable enough to post. NLNG are we going to have a repeat of last years posts where you are just being a dick? Come on man be ****ing normal.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on August 22, 2009, 08:57:12 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on August 22, 2009, 07:51:24 PM
dlippiel will second the +k to pa. dlippiel will encourage all to post on here sharing their thoughts on any team and contributing to discussions  in a positive manner. dlippiel feels one does not have to "...watch a few more games," before they comment on a team. Boxer keep posting and doing your thing on here. Don't be discouraged by BS posts from those who try to intimidate others by trying to make them feel like they are not knowledgeable enough to post. NLNG are we going to have a repeat of last years posts where you are just being a dick? Come on man be ****ing normal.

and your ####ing normal !!!! Man who speaks in 3rd person , kiss mine!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on August 22, 2009, 09:23:20 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on August 22, 2009, 08:57:12 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on August 22, 2009, 07:51:24 PM
dlippiel will second the +k to pa. dlippiel will encourage all to post on here sharing their thoughts on any team and contributing to discussions  in a positive manner. dlippiel feels one does not have to "...watch a few more games," before they comment on a team. Boxer keep posting and doing your thing on here. Don't be discouraged by BS posts from those who try to intimidate others by trying to make them feel like they are not knowledgeable enough to post. NLNG are we going to have a repeat of last years posts where you are just being a dick? Come on man be ****ing normal.

and your ####ing normal !!!! Man who speaks in 3rd person , kiss mine!

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NLNG - "NUFF SAID"
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on August 23, 2009, 09:55:36 AM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on August 22, 2009, 08:57:12 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on August 22, 2009, 07:51:24 PM
dlippiel will second the +k to pa. dlippiel will encourage all to post on here sharing their thoughts on any team and contributing to discussions  in a positive manner. dlippiel feels one does not have to "...watch a few more games," before they comment on a team. Boxer keep posting and doing your thing on here. Don't be discouraged by BS posts from those who try to intimidate others by trying to make them feel like they are not knowledgeable enough to post. NLNG are we going to have a repeat of last years posts where you are just being a dick? Come on man be ****ing normal.

and your ####ing normal !!!! Man who speaks in 3rd person , kiss mine!

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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: defenseiskey on August 24, 2009, 08:49:10 AM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on August 22, 2009, 04:12:03 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on August 22, 2009, 12:48:42 PM
NLNG,

is there something on my post you disagree with. I'm positive they lost thier starting QB and RB and some depth along the DLINE. Most of the players were 3-4 year starters. That will not be easy to replace. I saw Plymouth play twice last year and one was the Maine Maritime beating.

Plymouth has a two very good years in the NEFC, but this is the first time they will have to replace many key parts... remember this is just a pre season discussion... by week 5 all could change

I'm curious what the other game were you at ? I just get annoyed when you can talk about them and really don't know whats going on . Yes we did lose a key running back ,yes we did lose a key QB, and yes we lost some key D-line members ,but we did have quality kids to step up in these positions . If you've been watching or reading about this team than you'd know that. My boy played that D-line last year so I know what I'm talking about. Watch a few more games and then comment

                                              'Nuff said"


Just cause your boy played doesn't mean you know what you are talking about. there are thousands of football fans that don't know their a** from their elbow
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Blutarsky on August 24, 2009, 12:51:41 PM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on August 13, 2009, 01:04:24 PM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on August 13, 2009, 08:59:17 AM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on August 12, 2009, 08:48:48 PM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on August 12, 2009, 08:37:26 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on August 12, 2009, 04:17:44 PM
Quote from: Union89 on August 12, 2009, 03:14:49 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on August 12, 2009, 02:15:37 PM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on August 12, 2009, 01:29:53 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 03, 2009, 10:15:49 AM
Quote from: dlippiel on August 03, 2009, 09:57:10 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 03, 2009, 09:26:33 AM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on August 02, 2009, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 01, 2009, 12:39:49 AM
Quote from: footballguy32 on July 31, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Curry is a good football team, but the league is catching up and they are not getting better. Despite the NCAA win last season they are not getting better and it is all about the athletes they have. They are unsound in so many things they do because they had a better athlete.

As other teams get better recruiting classes and get the same athlete Curry has, they are going to be in for a big surprise. They no longer will be able to blitz and play man on a every play. It's only a matter of time.

Prove it.

Didnt Plymouth do that?
Manhandled them.

Didn't Curry win the NEFC for the past 6 years?

Oct. 25  1:00 PM  at Plymouth State * •  L, 28-17   

Curry lost this game at PState last year and PState deserves credit for the win no doubt. Yet Curry still sits on top until Pstate or another NEFC team makes a run like Curry has the past six years and/or wins at least one NCAA playoff game (which I don't see happening anytime soon). You just can't **** with a 37-3 record in conference thats all. For that purple drank to have fought through so much doubt from all around D3 football for the past three/four years and then to be questioned as not dominating their own conference is crazy.

Ahh yes, but of course.  Don't mind LD, he is extremely hungover on this fine Monday morning.  Regardless, 1 loss in the Championship game doesn't mean the league has caught up.  From my understanding, Plymouth had a pretty good team last year, but looks to be a one-year wonder.

1 Year Wonder?  I am reading through the past few posts, and to see how many feel that Curry is historically the New England power?  I can remember a time not too long ago when Plymouth State was a dominant FFC member that needed to travel to upstate NY, and NJ for out of conference games because the NEFC squads left much to be desired. 

They did have a few down season earlier this decade, but winning the NEFC last season shouldn't be a surprise.  It was just a matter of time. 

dlippiel hears ya panther pride but no one in that division can **** with  Curry's accomplishments in the past 6-7 years. To say because PState won the title last year they are the new power in the NEFC is simply wrong (not saying you said that). Hence Pstate losing to Cortland last year and Curry beating Ithaca at Ithaca made it clear to dlippiel that Curry is on top and they have not been knocked off yet. Would dlippiel like to see some parity in the NEFC? Absolutely, dlippiel would like to see the NEFC grow in strength and provide the East with more depth. When you look at Curry's record and the fact that they are the only NEFC team to win 1 let alone 2 NCAA games the discussion of them not ruling the NEFC is moot.


Well put, Young Wiseman.....

I see what panther pride is saying though.  Although you can't argue that Plymouth is the best NE team the last 10 years, I wouldn't call them a one year wonder.  They were better than Curry last year.  They beat them and both teams got smoked by an average Cortland team.  (Ok, maybe above average, but I was not impressed with them).

Plymouth St. has the potential to be a top team in the NEFC. 


Definetly agree with you 3 guys. Definetly great to see a program like PSC correct whatever was holding them down for 4 years or whatever it was. Glad they are off the mat and making a name for themselves again. Beating Curry 1 year was a statement.....BUT they have to keep beating Curry AND beat some LL/E8/NJAC teams in OOC games/NCAAs or ECACs to be able to say that they are truly a regional power. They have been there before so it is certainly possible. But still too early to go that far......


My main point is that Plymouth State has only been in the NEFC for a few years.  If you want to talk NEFC history, look no further than the White Mountains....9 out of 10 NEFC titles in the 80's.  When Curry has a run like that we can talk a little more about history.  We are also talking about a program that carried the highest all-time D3 program winning % into 2000 and what became a low in the program to start this decade. 

They will compete year in and year out.....because of that Panther Pride.


This is a big year for Plymouth. They NEED to prove that they can lose players and still win year in and year out. That is what they did in the 80's, parts of the 90's and up until about 2001 I believe? If they can win the NEFC this year they will have gone a long way towards that. But Curry winning it 6 years in a row shows that they are a quality program because they refuel, they dont rebuild. This is the step that Plymouth has to take now.
We all understand your point pantherpride and I think you are seeing that we agree with you BUT you are putting the cart in front of the horse a little bit here. Plymouth still has a lot to prove.

The fact that this is a discussion shows that the program isnt what it once was. Remember when Don Brown was the coach there? Man, domination was the word!

I understand there is work to do.  It is hard not to take into consideration the way we were playing when I was there in the mid to late 90's.  Don Brown was the man, and now that he is Maryland's D- Coordinator, we know we had something special going on up there.  When Curry rolls into Bentley on their homecoming while Bently is the cream of the crop in The NE 10, as we did in '99 I'd be impressed.

This should be another interesting season all across D3.  It can't come soon enough.

......just wanted to extend the life of the longest quote in D3 Board history.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on August 25, 2009, 10:59:44 PM
NLNG,

It was not my intention to make you upset with my opinions, but you basically proved my point all along agreeing with the all the losses you have. Despite those losses, i feel Plymouth still has a chance to do some damage in the Boyd division. Even the top dog Curry has suffered some key losses at WR, QB, and the rest of the division seems to be on the down except for Salve and Endicott.

Endicott and Salve should be interesting to watch this year, both return all thier major players and performed well at the end of the year. My pick is for Endicott to sneak up on everyone because they return almost all of thier D including that D end Egen and thier QB and RB Lane who really came on late last year. I feel those specific players give Endicott the edge over Salve... but not over Curry.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say Endicott will finish second to Curry in the division and they will beat Plymouth head to head... i just feel the experience coming back for Endicott and Salve, and the losses of Plymouth, that one or both of those teams will beat Plymouth this year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pumkinattack on August 25, 2009, 11:08:03 PM
Kickoff thinks that RPI has to worry about getting by Endicott in the early OOC. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on August 25, 2009, 11:26:44 PM
Kickoff might be on to something...

As i mention before Endicott is returning a ton on both of sides of the ball and has talent at the skill positions. I think RPI will get by them but it won't be as easy as it was in the past.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on August 26, 2009, 08:53:50 AM
The coaches poll for the NEFC.  Looks like it came out on 19 August.

Curry College and Bridgewater State College have been selected as the pre-season favorites in the Boyd Division and the Bogan Division of the New England Football Conference, in a poll conducted among conference coaches. Curry was also tabbed by the coaches as the pre-season favorite to earn the Conference's automatic Bid to the 2009 NCAA Division III Championship Tournament.

Curry received six first place votes in the Boyd Division followed by Plymouth State University, the 2008 Boyd Division Champion, which had two.  In the Bogan, Bridgewater captured five first place nods, with the other three going to 2008 Division Champion Maine Maritime Academy.

13 of the 16 conference coaches put forth their selections for the eventual Conference champion with Curry receiving nine votes, Plymouth State receiving two votes, and Maine Maritime and Bridgewater State each being named on one ballot.

The NEFC will kickoff the 2009 season on Thursday, September 3 when Massachusetts Maritime Academy hosts SUNY Maritime at 7:00pm.  The Conference championship game, pitting the champions of the Bogan and Boyd Divisions, will be held on Saturday, November 13 at noon at the site of the Boyd Division Champion.


The results:

Bogan Division

1. Bridgewater State College
2. Maine Maritime Academy
3. Westfield State College
4. U.S. Coast Guard Academy
5. Fitchburg State College (tie)
5. Worcester State College (tie)
7. Framingham State College
8. Massachusetts Maritime Academy     

Boyd Division

1. Curry College
2. Plymouth State College
3. Salve Regina University
4. Endicott College
5. UMass Dartmouth
6. MIT
7. Nichols
8. Western New England College
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on August 26, 2009, 12:17:22 PM
the polls are pretty much what i thought they would be... should be interesting year
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on August 26, 2009, 01:07:09 PM
I agree that Salve will be a team to watch out for. They have been a little up and down the past few years, but at the end of last year it looked like they were getting into a groove.

As much as I would like to back up the Endicott selections I have a hard time doing so. Lately they have been lacking leaders on the team. The Gulls always seem to be stout on defense, but if they can't score points (which seems to be the problem) they can't win games.

I look for EC to finish middle of the pack, not beating Curry, or Plymouth State, but hopefully not losing to Framingham State again
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on August 26, 2009, 01:27:29 PM
We will see what happens this year with  Endicott, but the O is coming around and they had some late production last year

The Framingham loss must of been tough but Framingham was a .500 team who beat Coast Guard to end the year... still I'm not as high on Framingham as others from the division... losing thier QB is going to hurt them...

Not as high on Westfield as I was last year as well, they lost thier QB a good WR and some really good LB.

Its going to be Maine and Bridgwater on this Bogan side, with the edge to Maine b/c Bridgewater lost that RB Burley...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gordonmann on August 31, 2009, 07:13:40 AM
Boxer:

You asked for thoughts on the Curry-Widener game on the MAC board which I posted there. 

QuoteThat is a great early test for both teams.

For Curry, it's a chance to show that its recent post season success is a product of a strong program and not soley the accomplishments of a couple strong graduating classes.  I really liked the Colonels' quarterback Van De Giesen, who will be tough to replace.  A win for Curry would emphasize that this program is legit at a regional level and deflate skepticism that Curry's success is the product of a weaker conference schedule.

For Widener, it's a chance to show that they were underrated in the conference preseason poll where they placed 5th.  I was impressed by their quarterback Al Humes and wide receiver Marcus Payton who transferred into the program last year, but they aren't listed on the 2009 roster.  Ian Decker is a nice running back and Michael Penna is a talented tight end, but they'll need some help.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUKaz00 on August 31, 2009, 09:20:23 AM
Anyone know if Mass-Dartmouth streams audio or video for their home games?  I'm gonna assume they don't since I don't see any links on the d3football scoreboard, but I was hoping it just wasn't posted yet.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gordonmann on August 31, 2009, 11:25:30 AM
AU:

Schools post their own links to our scoreboard.  So the absence of the links doesn't necessarily signal the absence of a broadcast, just that it hasn't been added to our board.

That said, I skimmed the Mass-Dartmouth website and didn't see anything specifically mentioned for Saturday.  UMD has had basketball broadcasts in the past (which I've enjoyed) and has a web page to which those broadcasts have been linked.

http://www.corsairathletics.com/multimedia/masd-multimedia.html

I encourage you to email the Sports Information Director to see what their plans are.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PBR... on August 31, 2009, 12:31:45 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on August 31, 2009, 11:25:30 AM
AU:

Schools post their own links to our scoreboard.  So the absence of the links doesn't necessarily signal the absence of a broadcast, just that it hasn't been added to our board.

That said, I skimmed the Mass-Dartmouth website and didn't see anything specifically mentioned for Saturday.  UMD has had basketball broadcasts in the past (which I've enjoyed) and has a web page to which those broadcasts have been linked.

http://www.corsairathletics.com/multimedia/masd-multimedia.html

I encourage you to email the Sports Information Director to see what their plans are.

gordon will u be calling the dvc games as well as providing a link for those who may/may not be able to make the dvc game?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gordonmann on August 31, 2009, 02:11:45 PM
Yep.  I've posted the audio link off our scoreboard for all Del Val's games and will post the link on the MAC board later this week.

Looking forward to Saturday.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on August 31, 2009, 09:52:19 PM
 Be nice to Coast Guard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3Z52GKONPc
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUKaz00 on September 01, 2009, 08:37:03 AM
Quote from: gordonmann on August 31, 2009, 11:25:30 AM
AU:

Schools post their own links to our scoreboard.  So the absence of the links doesn't necessarily signal the absence of a broadcast, just that it hasn't been added to our board.

That said, I skimmed the Mass-Dartmouth website and didn't see anything specifically mentioned for Saturday.  UMD has had basketball broadcasts in the past (which I've enjoyed) and has a web page to which those broadcasts have been linked.

http://www.corsairathletics.com/multimedia/masd-multimedia.html

I encourage you to email the Sports Information Director to see what their plans are.

Thanks for the push, Gordon.  Here's the relevant part of the response I got from UMD:

"The game will be shot for local television, so we should be able to use that for the stream as we did last season.

Keep an eye on the Corsair Live page on our website (http://www.corsairathletics.com) for specific details later in the week.

Thank you for your interest in the broadcast."
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on September 01, 2009, 09:43:41 AM
Pep had visited the UMD website and all indications were that the game could be viewed via webcast from that site, unless, God forbid, the UMD site chooses instead to broadcast another Corsair athletic event. Tennis, anyone?  ::)



Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUKaz00 on September 01, 2009, 10:08:06 AM
Quote from: AUPepBand on September 01, 2009, 09:43:41 AM
Pep had visited the UMD website and all indications were that the game could be viewed via webcast from that site, unless, God forbid, the UMD site chooses instead to broadcast another Corsair athletic event. Tennis, anyone?  ::)

So, any chance you can sign us up for a laptop and that conference room in Herrick to watch the game on the plasma?  I've got at least 2 who are interested in getting together and if you spread the word we'd likely have a nice group.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on September 01, 2009, 10:23:48 AM
I read in kickoff that MIT spends next to nothing on its football program (and that the NEFC in general follows suit). Now I can understand state funded schools being a little stingy with the cash but how can a private school with some serious economic clout like MIT not pump some $$ into the program? Will the new head coach bring some changes to the program?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gordonmann on September 01, 2009, 12:43:06 PM
Glad someone read that article. :)

MIT has broader budget challenges which led it to drop eight sports coming into this sports season.  See this Boston Globe article (http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/articles/2009/04/24/mit_forced_to_cut_8_varsity_sports/) for more on that.  The part that caught my attention was that the Institute still has 33 sports.  That might make it hard for any one program to push for more resources.

On a lighter note, look at the comments below the article.  Someone posted the following (fake?) fight song verse for MIT:

Cosine, secant, tangent, sine,
3.14159....
Integral radical, square root of three!
Fight-em Fight-em MIT!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on September 01, 2009, 01:29:10 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on September 01, 2009, 12:43:06 PM
Glad someone read that article. :)

MIT has broader budget challenges which led it to drop eight sports coming into this sports season.  See this Boston Globe article (http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/articles/2009/04/24/mit_forced_to_cut_8_varsity_sports/) for more on that.  The part that caught my attention was that the Institute still has 33 sports.  That might make it hard for any one program to push for more resources.

On a lighter note, look at the comments below the article.  Someone posted the following (fake?) fight song verse for MIT:

Cosine, secant, tangent, sine,
3.14159....
Integral radical, square root of three!
Fight-em Fight-em MIT!

After reading the main page of kickoff that was the first article I read, and it was well done. Very interesting stuff... good work GM. I'll have to read the boston globe article.

Re: fight song
Yeah, that's probably real. RPI's pep band does a few like that.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on September 01, 2009, 01:50:33 PM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on September 01, 2009, 10:08:06 AM
Quote from: AUPepBand on September 01, 2009, 09:43:41 AM
Pep had visited the UMD website and all indications were that the game could be viewed via webcast from that site, unless, God forbid, the UMD site chooses instead to broadcast another Corsair athletic event. Tennis, anyone?  ::)

So, any chance you can sign us up for a laptop and that conference room in Herrick to watch the game on the plasma?  I've got at least 2 who are interested in getting together and if you spread the word we'd likely have a nice group.

Pep will inquire....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 01, 2009, 11:34:34 PM
Pep,

chances are the football game will be broadcasted from the website. I'm afraid to say it will not be much of a game with UMASS D losing alot of talent last year including a good RB.

In regards to MIT, GM said it all regarding the Boston Globe article. MIT has the biggest D3 sports program in the country I believe, so cutting 8 sports for them is not what it would be at other schools. NEFC is one conference you won't see to much money spent unfortunately.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on September 02, 2009, 12:37:35 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on September 01, 2009, 11:34:34 PM
Pep,

chances are the football game will be broadcasted from the website. I'm afraid to say it will not be much of a game with UMASS D losing alot of talent last year including a good RB.

In regards to MIT, GM said it all regarding the Boston Globe article. MIT has the biggest D3 sports program in the country I believe, so cutting 8 sports for them is not what it would be at other schools. NEFC is one conference you won't see to much money spent unfortunately.

Pep will be there in person with a 8+/- person band. Will the webcast pick up the noise from the visitors' side of the field? Or, better yet, will the cameras zoom in on the AU Pep Band?

Get the fight song ready!!

On Saxon Warriors!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on September 02, 2009, 04:42:00 PM
It's Humpday....are there any UMASS-Dartmouth fans who plan to attend the game Saturday?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballguy32 on September 05, 2009, 09:21:08 AM
No Picks this week?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MITDT on September 06, 2009, 01:12:05 AM
The actual (official) MIT chant:


e to the u, du dx, e to the x, dx;
cosine, secant, tangent, sine, 3.14159;
integral, radical, mu, dv;
slipstick, sliderule, MIT! Go Tech!

Reference:  http://mitathletics.cstv.com/sports/m-crewhvy/spec-rel/022406aaa.html


MIT students (and most engineers) generally have a pretty self-deprecating sense of humor.

It's probably not appropriate for me to touch the budget questions, but I will say this:  MIT may have a "huge" endowment, but being a leader in many areas of research is an expensive endeavor.  It's amazing how fast resources are consumed, especially given the current economic situation.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUKaz00 on September 07, 2009, 10:05:40 PM
Quote from: AUPepBand on September 01, 2009, 01:50:33 PM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on September 01, 2009, 10:08:06 AM
Quote from: AUPepBand on September 01, 2009, 09:43:41 AM
Pep had visited the UMD website and all indications were that the game could be viewed via webcast from that site, unless, God forbid, the UMD site chooses instead to broadcast another Corsair athletic event. Tennis, anyone?  ::)

So, any chance you can sign us up for a laptop and that conference room in Herrick to watch the game on the plasma?  I've got at least 2 who are interested in getting together and if you spread the word we'd likely have a nice group.

Pep will inquire....

DCTV delivered on Saturday with a broadcast that was as good as ESPN's coverage of the Stagg Bowl.  Replays, stats and multiple camera angles was more than I expected and not charging $7 for the viewing made it a real treat.  A big thanks from Alfred to everyone who worked so hard to get the broadcast streamed and the whole pep band is rooting for the Corsairs to win out.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on September 08, 2009, 12:39:51 PM
Plymouth State gooes 5 OTs vs. St. Anslem and Curry gets their doors blown off by Bentley and not a word on here about it?

Everyone must have the swine flu I guess.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on September 08, 2009, 01:29:30 PM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on September 08, 2009, 12:39:51 PM
Plymouth State gooes 5 OTs vs. St. Anslem and Curry gets their doors blown off by Bentley and not a word on here about it?

Everyone must have the swine flu I guess.

St Anselm is terrible.  Bentley is decent.  If you ask me, those 2 games show nothing.  ANY team losing to St. A's is embarrassing.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on September 08, 2009, 03:53:47 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on September 08, 2009, 01:29:30 PM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on September 08, 2009, 12:39:51 PM
Plymouth State gooes 5 OTs vs. St. Anslem and Curry gets their doors blown off by Bentley and not a word on here about it?

Everyone must have the swine flu I guess.

St Anselm is terrible.  Bentley is decent.  If you ask me, those 2 games show nothing.  ANY team losing to St. A's is embarrassing.

Thought Plymouth would have won that one...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on September 08, 2009, 04:15:24 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on September 08, 2009, 03:53:47 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on September 08, 2009, 01:29:30 PM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on September 08, 2009, 12:39:51 PM
Plymouth State gooes 5 OTs vs. St. Anslem and Curry gets their doors blown off by Bentley and not a word on here about it?

Everyone must have the swine flu I guess.

St Anselm is terrible.  Bentley is decent.  If you ask me, those 2 games show nothing.  ANY team losing to St. A's is embarrassing.

Thought Plymouth would have won that one...

Funny, cause this dude wants everyone ogling over Plymouth's close loss...as opposed to a larger margin loss.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on September 08, 2009, 04:33:58 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on September 08, 2009, 01:29:30 PM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on September 08, 2009, 12:39:51 PM
Plymouth State gooes 5 OTs vs. St. Anslem and Curry gets their doors blown off by Bentley and not a word on here about it?

Everyone must have the swine flu I guess.

St Anselm is terrible.  Bentley is decent.  If you ask me, those 2 games show nothing.  ANY team losing to St. A's is embarrassing.


Under normal circumstances, I would agree with LD 100% in this one, but St. A's opened the season with a 17-14 loss to Kutztown.  Kutztown is usually pretty good....St. A's might not be THAT bad this year....ah, but it could be business as usual and they could suck again....I have no idea about these teams.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on September 08, 2009, 04:34:16 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on September 08, 2009, 04:15:24 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on September 08, 2009, 03:53:47 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on September 08, 2009, 01:29:30 PM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on September 08, 2009, 12:39:51 PM
Plymouth State gooes 5 OTs vs. St. Anslem and Curry gets their doors blown off by Bentley and not a word on here about it?

Everyone must have the swine flu I guess.

St Anselm is terrible.  Bentley is decent.  If you ask me, those 2 games show nothing.  ANY team losing to St. A's is embarrassing.

Thought Plymouth would have won that one...

Funny, cause this dude wants everyone ogling over Plymouth's close loss...as opposed to a larger margin loss.

dlip is not familiar with St Anslem FB at all. If the Dogg says they suck than that is most likely the case and good enough for dlip. Plus makes perfect sense why no one is talking about it. Who the **** wants to talk about a possible league contender losing to a team that is ****ing horrible? to dlip it seems quite clear why there was no disucussion...because it was embarassing.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on September 08, 2009, 04:38:28 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on September 08, 2009, 04:34:16 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on September 08, 2009, 04:15:24 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on September 08, 2009, 03:53:47 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on September 08, 2009, 01:29:30 PM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on September 08, 2009, 12:39:51 PM
Plymouth State gooes 5 OTs vs. St. Anslem and Curry gets their doors blown off by Bentley and not a word on here about it?

Everyone must have the swine flu I guess.

St Anselm is terrible.  Bentley is decent.  If you ask me, those 2 games show nothing.  ANY team losing to St. A's is embarrassing.

Thought Plymouth would have won that one...

Funny, cause this dude wants everyone ogling over Plymouth's close loss...as opposed to a larger margin loss.

dlip is not familiar with St Anslem FB at all. If the Dogg says they suck than that is most likely the case and good enough for dlip. Plus makes perfect sense why no one is talking about it. Who the **** wants to talk about a possible league contender losing to a team that is ****ing horrible? to dlip it seems quite clear why there was no disucussion...because it was embarassing.

Kutztown was 5-6 and the last two years, so hopefully that was sarcastic U89.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on September 08, 2009, 04:43:58 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on September 08, 2009, 04:38:28 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on September 08, 2009, 04:34:16 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on September 08, 2009, 04:15:24 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on September 08, 2009, 03:53:47 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on September 08, 2009, 01:29:30 PM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on September 08, 2009, 12:39:51 PM
Plymouth State gooes 5 OTs vs. St. Anslem and Curry gets their doors blown off by Bentley and not a word on here about it?

Everyone must have the swine flu I guess.

St Anselm is terrible.  Bentley is decent.  If you ask me, those 2 games show nothing.  ANY team losing to St. A's is embarrassing.

Thought Plymouth would have won that one...

Funny, cause this dude wants everyone ogling over Plymouth's close loss...as opposed to a larger margin loss.

dlip is not familiar with St Anslem FB at all. If the Dogg says they suck than that is most likely the case and good enough for dlip. Plus makes perfect sense why no one is talking about it. Who the **** wants to talk about a possible league contender losing to a team that is ****ing horrible? to dlip it seems quite clear why there was no disucussion...because it was embarassing.

Kutztown was 5-6 and the last two years, so hopefully that was sarcastic U89.


Wasn't being sarcastic there.....just clueless.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 08, 2009, 07:06:47 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on September 08, 2009, 03:53:47 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on September 08, 2009, 01:29:30 PM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on September 08, 2009, 12:39:51 PM
Plymouth State gooes 5 OTs vs. St. Anslem and Curry gets their doors blown off by Bentley and not a word on here about it?

Everyone must have the swine flu I guess.

St Anselm is terrible.  Bentley is decent.  If you ask me, those 2 games show nothing.  ANY team losing to St. A's is embarrassing.

Thought Plymouth would have won that one...
Me too!! plymouth left the door open for sure
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on September 08, 2009, 08:01:24 PM
Not looking for oogling over anything.  Just figured a 5 OT game and a Curry loss by a lot would bring some commentary.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: stimulator on September 10, 2009, 09:11:50 AM
Here you go PP...

Went to the game.. posted this over on the LLPP

Quote43-17 final Bentley over Curry. 

Impressions:

Score really not totally indicative of game.. Bentley with TD after pick then a pick six to put it away early in 3Q.. Curry secondary was a bit outmatched.. QB for Curry not able to make any plays with his feet like last year's QB.. Curry had only really one solid drive to start game.. front 7 for Curry played well..16-10 for most of 1st half then Bentley scored with < min to close out half..Bentley scored on first offensive playfrom scrimmage with ~ 70 passing TD.. Bentley was not really all that successful running ball.. starters were out for Bentley at start of 4th.. Curry really agressive with D scheme..blitzed 75% of time mostly OLB's.. Curry knocked Bentley QB (on blitz) out of game in 1st Q.. came back in middle of 2nd Q.. punter for Curry was very good..noticeable but not huge talent difference mostly in WR's of Bentley vs secondary of Curry.

All in all sad to see the score so lopsided for the D3 crowd essentially going up against a middle of the road D2 opponent..although again the game was not as bad as the score indicates.  Still think from what the Stim has seen of NEFC competition they will be near or at the top.  Predict Bentley will scuffle (.500?) in their league.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NEFCFAN on September 10, 2009, 09:39:27 AM
I went and watched Bridgewater State play their home opener last Saturday.  While watching them warm up, their size and athleticism caught my eye. A lot of big skilled position guys.  Mt. Ida played them tough and in my opinion could have won the game. Ida had some costly drops and mishaps with their secondary blowing coverage.  Bridgewater States kickoff man will hurt them down the road against the powers of the league. (Very short with not much hang). Their punt returner showed some signs of youth, or nerves, not sure which one is true though. Their two running backs are excellent. Big, bruisers that make you have to wrap up on every carry. No flicking of the "hit stick" on these guys. Qb a bit undersized but quick. Throws a good fade ball but seemed to struggle on 5 step drops where he had to read the defense and work his checkdowns. Plenty of triple showed. Qb needs to be hit on everyplay, has way to fresh in this game in the second half.  Their D-line in my opinion was a bit slow and out of shape. Weather and it being the first game must have played a role with this though. Ida's qb went down real early with knee injury and that is when Bridgewater was able to get on them. Once he returned he somewhat picked them apart.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NEFCFAN on September 10, 2009, 09:48:28 AM
I saw Curry play at Bentley the night before and as expected they looked pretty good, the score does not reflect the type of game it was.  I believe Bridgewater will match up well with Currys size and speed.  With Curry blitzing a great amount it will be interesting to see if Bridgewaters qb will be able to stay healthy and composed enough to be productive if they can get to him and put him on his back often.  Curry's qb throws an excellent ball, much better than Bridgewater's.  WR #5 for Bridgewater state is a transfer from Framingham State. Just looking at the kid he looks like a D1 player.  (Plays far from it though) Word on the street is that he is soft and a bit of a behavioral issue, will be interesting to see how that plays out.  At 6'4 225 he will create dramatic size mismatches on the outside against Curry's smaller secondary...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on September 10, 2009, 10:14:20 AM
Quote from: NEFCFAN on September 10, 2009, 09:48:28 AM

QuoteJust looking at the kid he looks like a D1 player.  (Plays far from it though) Word on the street is that he is soft and a bit of a behavioral issue, will be interesting to see how that plays out.  At 6'4 225 he will create dramatic size mismatches on the outside against Curry's smaller secondary...

With that size you would think he would get it together and really focus. His size is a gift let's see what he chooses to do with it. dlip will say one thing. If that kid is in the weight room, working on his speed, hands, and agility he has the potential to be nasty.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 11, 2009, 08:46:32 AM
Quote from: 'gro on September 01, 2009, 10:23:48 AM
I read in kickoff that MIT spends next to nothing on its football program (and that the NEFC in general follows suit). Now I can understand state funded schools being a little stingy with the cash but how can a private school with some serious economic clout like MIT not pump some $$ into the program? Will the new head coach bring some changes to the program?

This has been a news item in Boston during the recent economic downturn.  Im not sure how much endowment MIT has lost, but here is an article about Harvard's endowment in 2009.  It dropped 27% or 11 billion dollars from 2008.

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=528856
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan81 on September 11, 2009, 11:03:38 AM
the 6 3 wide receiver or around that size is clearly not only found with that one receiver, take benoit from westfield, dont know exactly how tall he is but he was a d 1 transfer i believe and yeah it does take a toll on teams, especially in the nefc, where i find particularly weak corner backs. There is not a team that i can say could match up with that size of receiver and effectively shut them down. There are also two large wide recievers for maine maritime, but you cant really take that into account since i believe they run the triple option exclusively. The tight end from mit a year ago was 6'7 i believe and he was extremely effective. Bottom line is there really is no answer to an athletic tall wide receiver at this level, and teams need to aim to recruit more of them
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefan on September 11, 2009, 03:34:58 PM
If only recruiting was that easy.. every Offensive lineman would be 6'5 and 270 plus, QB would be 6'3 or taller, backs would all have 4.5 speed or quicker, etc. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballguy32 on September 12, 2009, 08:29:28 AM
Sounds like a sloppy weekend for football. Does anyone think Endicott has a chance at he new RPI stadium. And what about Salve? I thought they were suppose to be a sleeper, how tough was WPI?, they have Hartwick today so maybe we will see.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 12, 2009, 08:34:41 PM
This week PSU closed the door on Mt Ida . They looked alot better this week than last . More of a balanced attack. Defense stepped up when needed . Offense used more of the field. Special teams were special. Mt Ida's #20 was fun to watch, he did everything on the team, but hand out the water bottles. He passed, ran, caught & kicked the ball. Hell of a ball player, hats off.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 13, 2009, 10:00:27 AM
another good week of football... parity has seem to to only strike the league but the region in general... should be a good week...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 15, 2009, 07:11:48 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 20, 2008, 07:33:46 PM
I just learned that Plymouth St lost to ****ing Mt. IDA this year. I was looking through the capsules and couldn't believe my eyes. ****ing Mt. Ida. I see Toto's head sticking out of glory and CornholeButtnuggets 23's ass as we speak! Good luck fellas.

not this year !
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on September 15, 2009, 09:49:22 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on September 15, 2009, 07:11:48 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 20, 2008, 07:33:46 PM
I just learned that Plymouth St lost to ****ing Mt. IDA this year. I was looking through the capsules and couldn't believe my eyes. ****ing Mt. Ida. I see Toto's head sticking out of glory and CornholeButtnuggets 23's ass as we speak! Good luck fellas.

not this year !

Congrats, Mt. Ida is always a huge ****ing hurdle for any major football program in the world of D3.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on September 17, 2009, 06:55:07 PM
Read K-Mack's ATN and feel it gave the NEFC, specifically the Purple Drank and P-State a nice highlight. After reading, dlip really got a handle on some of the struggles the NEFC has regarding scheduling, $, coaching, and recruiting. dlip gives Skip Bandini (Curry's coach) a TON of credit for what he has accomplished, only getting paid on a part-time basis. Obviously, the full time D coordinator and interns help, but ****, how do you do it going part time? Nice article Keith and well deserved credit for Skip.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 17, 2009, 09:01:45 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on September 17, 2009, 06:55:07 PM
Read K-Mack's ATN and feel it gave the NEFC, specifically the Purple Drank and P-State a nice highlight. After reading, dlip really got a handle on some of the struggles the NEFC has regarding scheduling, $, coaching, and recruiting. dlip gives Skip Bandini (Curry's coach) a TON of credit for what he has accomplished, only getting paid on a part-time basis. Obviously, the full time D coordinator and interns help, but ****, how do you do it going part time? Nice article Keith and well deserved credit for Skip.
Dlppiel
Totally agree with you (somebody write this down)
NEFC is the underdog ,we try harder than most people know . That was a
great write up by Kieith . a job well done.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: CB23 on September 18, 2009, 09:03:10 PM
hey nlng!!!   ;D
feels good to be back in the mix.
st a's looked okay. but at least 3 key players where out. plymouth has no depth. o-line,d-line and linebacker are a good example. looks like no more routs, every game looks like their going to be close to the end!!

Safety23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 19, 2009, 07:05:59 AM
Quote from: CB23 on September 18, 2009, 09:03:10 PM
hey nlng!!!   ;D
feels good to be back in the mix.
st a's looked okay. but at least 3 key players where out. plymouth has no depth. o-line,d-line and linebacker are a good example. looks like no more routs, every game looks like their going to be close to the end!!

Safety23
CB ... get up to speed your a game behind . I think we looked good last week , just need to spread the field a little more,open up the game , they  have the weapons .
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 19, 2009, 05:52:02 PM
 PSU over CGA great game
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on September 19, 2009, 07:42:05 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on September 17, 2009, 09:01:45 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on September 17, 2009, 06:55:07 PM
Read K-Mack's ATN and feel it gave the NEFC, specifically the Purple Drank and P-State a nice highlight. After reading, dlip really got a handle on some of the struggles the NEFC has regarding scheduling, $, coaching, and recruiting. dlip gives Skip Bandini (Curry's coach) a TON of credit for what he has accomplished, only getting paid on a part-time basis. Obviously, the full time D coordinator and interns help, but ****, how do you do it going part time? Nice article Keith and well deserved credit for Skip.
Dlppiel
Totally agree with you (somebody write this down)
NEFC is the underdog ,we try harder than most people know . That was a
great write up by Kieith . a job well done.

Look how far we have come NLNG  ;)

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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 20, 2009, 09:06:24 AM
Quote from: dlippiel on September 19, 2009, 07:42:05 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on September 17, 2009, 09:01:45 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on September 17, 2009, 06:55:07 PM
Read K-Mack's ATN and feel it gave the NEFC, specifically the Purple Drank and P-State a nice highlight. After reading, dlip really got a handle on some of the struggles the NEFC has regarding scheduling, $, coaching, and recruiting. dlip gives Skip Bandini (Curry's coach) a TON of credit for what he has accomplished, only getting paid on a part-time basis. Obviously, the full time D coordinator and interns help, but ****, how do you do it going part time? Nice article Keith and well deserved credit for Skip.
Dlppiel
Totally agree with you (somebody write this down)
NEFC is the underdog ,we try harder than most people know . That was a
great write up by Kieith . a job well done.

Look how far we have come NLNG  ;)
                                                                                       

                                                         yes :)

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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 20, 2009, 12:02:39 PM
A great article by Keith... Thanks for letting others know about the struggles of the teams in the conference.

On the other hand Bridgewater losing to Salve was a suprise. Lets see if Salve can ride the momentum to a winning record unlike the last time they beat Bridgewater a year or two ago.

I don't know if anyone else notices but Umass Dartmouth is in a rebuilding year and Maine Maritime seems like the team to beat. Most year it takes Maine a little while to cut the turnovers down and put the offense into top gear but not this year. I believe with having almost the entire offense and defense back from last year, that transitional period is gone.

I think westfield could could give them a run just based off their strong D.

Curry, Plymouth St, Endicott, Salve in that order for the Boyd. Plymouth and Curry are even that should be another great game but dont look past Endicott or Salve who have played strong non conf. schedules and have the tools to upset one of those two teams. You could even throw in WNEC who seems to beat teams they should never have a chance at.

CGA I can't figure out. I want to say they have the pieces to make a run but I just don't see them winning more then 3 games this year. Then you have Mass Maritime much improved with the running back Sherr and you have Worcester still in a recession and Fitchburg who hasn't played anyone except Springfield and got smoked.

Then you have Framingham who squeaked by MIT. Their next two games are Fitchburg and Worcester two winnable games. If they win both games they would be 4-1. I think most people who read this board would think that is impossible.

Bogan Side in Order: Maine, Westfield, Bridgewater, Framingham, Mass Mar, CGA, Worcester, Fitchburg
Boyd: Curry, Plymouth, Endicott, Salve, WNEC, UMASS D, Nicholls, MIT
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HailMary15 on September 22, 2009, 01:20:49 PM
Boxer: While your statements about Maine Maritime are correct for the offense (lost 2 starters from last years team) their defense is in more of a reloading year after losing 6 starters off last years team.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 22, 2009, 03:59:53 PM
HailMary...

Thanks for letting me know. I was under the assumption from looking at the website their only big loss on Defense was a D-End. At least we have one other person posting.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballguy32 on September 22, 2009, 11:52:50 PM
we gonna get any pics for the weekend?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HailMary15 on September 25, 2009, 10:54:24 AM
Boxer:

The 2 DE's that graduated are both huge hit to the team. In addition to that 2 multiple year starting DB's graduated and 2 linebackers aren't with the team (1 to graduation the other a would be Sophomore who didn't return to MMA) The sophomore linebacker will hurt in years to come as he started every game as a freshman and was turning into a major force on the defense.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 25, 2009, 12:37:34 PM
Hailmary,

thanks for the update on Maine's D. The good news for Maine is the defense has not been the strong point of their team the past few years anyway. As long as that offense keeps churning out points the way they are, I don't think any team will beat them in the Bogan this year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vern1 on September 25, 2009, 07:22:24 PM
Mass maritime over Worcester state 27-14
Bridgewater over Maine maritime 42-34
Plymouth state over mass dartmouth 34-7
Curry over WENC 14-6
Nichols over MIT 21-14
Westfield over CGA 21-7
Framingham over Fitchburg 33-7
Salve over Endicott 28-14
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 26, 2009, 06:54:04 AM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on September 20, 2009, 09:06:24 AM
Quote from: dlippiel on September 19, 2009, 07:42:05 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on September 17, 2009, 09:01:45 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on September 17, 2009, 06:55:07 PM
Read K-Mack's ATN and feel it gave the NEFC, specifically the Purple Drank and P-State a nice highlight. After reading, dlip really got a handle on some of the struggles the NEFC has regarding scheduling, $, coaching, and recruiting. dlip gives Skip Bandini (Curry's coach) a TON of credit for what he has accomplished, only getting paid on a part-time basis. Obviously, the full time D coordinator and interns help, but ****, how do you do it going part time? Nice article Keith and well deserved credit for Skip.
Dlppiel
Totally agree with you (somebody write this down)
NEFC is the underdog ,we try harder than most people know . That was a
great write up by Kieith . a job well done.

Look how far we have come NLNG  ;)
                                                                                       

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Game day my friend ...Good luck to all
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 26, 2009, 12:10:44 PM
Worcester St over Mass Maritime  26-12
Maine Maritime over Bridgewater 32 -23
Plymouth State over Umass D 40-24
Curry over WNEC 24-8
Nichols over MIT 14-6
Westfield over CGA 21-7
Framingham over Fitchburg 24-18
Endicott over Salve 21-19
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: DijBurg on September 26, 2009, 11:13:43 PM
nice job vern 7/8.

better luck next time boxer 4/8.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: DijBurg on September 27, 2009, 08:49:08 AM
anyone know what happened to westfield qb anderson?  obviously the offense struggled w/o him. he must have been hurt during practice?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 27, 2009, 12:45:43 PM
Plymouth 34- UMD -0
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 27, 2009, 12:47:02 PM
Salve real deal ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 27, 2009, 07:53:12 PM
Looks like Salve is the real deal and a contender in the Boyd division. I previously stated that Endicott or Salve would make a push in the division and thier win over Endicott makes them a legit contender. I still think Plymouth and Curry are better, but I won't rule out Salve maybe upsetting one of those two teams. I for one will be rooting for Salve. Their QB St. Onge seems to be the real deal as well.

Bridgewater beating Maine puts them back at the top of the heap in the division. Coast Guards win over Westfield puts them makes thier matchup against Bridgewater this weekend huge. If Bridgewater wins it puts them in the driver seat. If Coast Guard Wins the conference becomes a heap of madness with Bridgewater, Coast Guard, Westfield, Maine Maritime, and even Framingham having a legitame shots at taking the division. Westfield shots at taking the division lie with the health of their QB. If he continues to be out, so are their chances at the division.

Bogan: Bridgewater, Coast Guard, Maine Maritime, Westfield, Framingham, Mass Mar, Fitchburg, Worcester
Boyd: Curry, Plymouth, Salve, Endicott, MIT, UMD, Nichols, WNEC
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefcfootballfan1 on September 27, 2009, 09:38:14 PM
Salve is the real deal.  They handled endicott pretty easily.  Their win at bridgewater didn't seem like a fluke and they looked like the better team.  They lost a last second heartbreaker (lost a 13 point lead with 4 minutes left) to a good hartwick team, who they were clearly better than.  It will be a true test and hopefully an exciting game when they play curry next week
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 28, 2009, 09:01:24 AM
made a mistake in my previous statement. Bridgewater plays Fitchburg this weekend and doesn't play Coast Guard for another two weeks.

Game of the Week is clearly Salve and Curry. Curry is vulnerable more this year then I think in years past and Salve is better then they have been in forever. I still think Curry wins.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 29, 2009, 01:08:44 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on September 28, 2009, 09:01:24 AM
made a mistake in my previous statement. Game of the Week is clearly Salve and Curry. Curry is vulnerable . I still think Curry wins.


Boxer who is YOUR home team ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUKaz00 on September 29, 2009, 01:19:11 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on September 29, 2009, 01:08:44 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on September 28, 2009, 09:01:24 AM
made a mistake in my previous statement. Game of the Week is clearly Salve and Curry. Curry is vulnerable . I still think Curry wins.


Boxer who is YOUR home team ?

I'm pretty sure he's a Hartwick guy, but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 29, 2009, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on September 29, 2009, 01:19:11 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on September 29, 2009, 01:08:44 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on September 28, 2009, 09:01:24 AM
made a mistake in my previous statement. Game of the Week is clearly Salve and Curry. Curry is vulnerable . I still think Curry wins.


Boxer who is YOUR home team ?

I'm pretty sure he's a Hartwick guy, but I could be wrong.

Thankyou
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on September 29, 2009, 01:44:31 PM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on September 29, 2009, 01:19:11 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on September 29, 2009, 01:08:44 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on September 28, 2009, 09:01:24 AM
made a mistake in my previous statement. Game of the Week is clearly Salve and Curry. Curry is vulnerable . I still think Curry wins.


Boxer who is YOUR home team ?

I'm pretty sure he's a Hartwick guy, but I could be wrong.

Brockton High
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 29, 2009, 04:04:24 PM
Quote from: Dr. Lew Von Doggenstein on September 29, 2009, 01:44:31 PM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on September 29, 2009, 01:19:11 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on September 29, 2009, 01:08:44 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on September 28, 2009, 09:01:24 AM
made a mistake in my previous statement. Game of the Week is clearly Salve and Curry. Curry is vulnerable . I still think Curry wins.


Boxer who is YOUR home team ?

I'm pretty sure he's a Hartwick guy, but I could be wrong.

Brockton High
Oh Marvelous
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jkelly24 on September 29, 2009, 04:30:08 PM
hey nlng!!
how about EVERETT HIGH?!?!?!

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on September 29, 2009, 07:01:25 PM
Does anyone else wonder how they can determine the weekly New England D3 poll when the NESCAC teams like Trinity, Williams, etc. just pay themselves?

Another question, how would the NESCAC teams fair against Plymouth State, Curry, Springfield, West Conn State, etc.?  They need to atleast let the NESCAC winner play in the dance.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 30, 2009, 08:40:05 AM
NLNG

My team affiliation is Bridgewater, saying that I try to keep an objective mind as possible to all the other teams in the conference. For the first time I picked against Bridgewater last week and they beat Maine 40-14. Just goes to show you how much i respected Maine after the run they had last year.

In terms of the Nescac, the overall quality of football in that conference is much higher then the football played in the NEFC. If a middle of the pack NESCAC team joined our leauge, say a Bowdoin or Colby Sawyer, I think they would immediately challenge for the championship similar to Plymouth State's and CGA's arrival in the conference a few years ago. CGA was a perrenial bottom dweller in the Liberty Leauge before they arrived, first two years in the conference they played in the NEFC championship game and gave Curry all they could handle each time.

In terms of playing Springfield, West Conn, or even WPI the games would be much closer. I think if West Conn or WPI would join the NESCAC they would be n the bottom half of the conference. A team like Springfield would fare better depending on the year, but mostly be a middle of the pack team. Just my opinion though.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on September 30, 2009, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on September 30, 2009, 08:40:05 AM
NLNG

My team affiliation is Bridgewater, saying that I try to keep an objective mind as possible to all the other teams in the conference. For the first time I picked against Bridgewater last week and they beat Maine 40-14. Just goes to show you how much i respected Maine after the run they had last year.

In terms of the Nescac, the overall quality of football in that conference is much higher then the football played in the NEFC. If a middle of the pack NESCAC team joined our leauge, say a Bowdoin or Colby Sawyer, I think they would immediately challenge for the championship similar to Plymouth State's and CGA's arrival in the conference a few years ago. CGA was a perrenial bottom dweller in the Liberty Leauge before they arrived, first two years in the conference they played in the NEFC championship game and gave Curry all they could handle each time.

In terms of playing Springfield, West Conn, or even WPI the games would be much closer. I think if West Conn or WPI would join the NESCAC they would be n the bottom half of the conference. A team like Springfield would fare better depending on the year, but mostly be a middle of the pack team. Just my opinion though.

I don't understand how you can make that assumption when they play no one but themselves.  That's what I am trying to get at with the New England poll. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on September 30, 2009, 04:00:11 PM
QuoteDoes anyone else wonder how they can determine the weekly New England D3 poll when the NESCAC teams like Trinity, Williams, etc. just pay themselves?

Another question, how would the NESCAC teams fair against Plymouth State, Curry, Springfield, West Conn State, etc.?  They need to atleast let the NESCAC winner play in the dance.

dlip feels the NESCAC can have their tea and crupits and play in the ****in nose-up corner all they want. When one league chooses to isolate themselves from the rest of the NCAA they deserve ZERO attention regarding any polls period. Very simple  in dlip's mind ;)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 30, 2009, 05:58:42 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on September 30, 2009, 04:00:11 PM
QuoteDoes anyone else wonder how they can determine the weekly New England D3 poll when the NESCAC teams like Trinity, Williams, etc. just pay themselves?

Another question, how would the NESCAC teams fair against Plymouth State, Curry, Springfield, West Conn State, etc.?  They need to atleast let the NESCAC winner play in the dance.

dlip feels the NESCAC can have their tea and crupits and play in the ****in nose-up corner all they want. When one league chooses to isolate themselves from the rest of the NCAA they deserve ZERO attention regarding any polls period. Very simple  in dlip's mind ;)

This is scary but I couldn't agree more +K to you
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 30, 2009, 06:15:14 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on September 30, 2009, 08:40:05 AM
NLNG

My team affiliation is Bridgewater, saying that I try to keep an objective mind as possible to all the other teams in the conference. For the first time I picked against Bridgewater last week and they beat Maine 40-14. Just goes to show you how much i respected Maine after the run they had last year.

In terms of the Nescac, the overall quality of football in that conference is much higher then the football played in the NEFC. If a middle of the pack NESCAC team joined our leauge, say a Bowdoin or Colby Sawyer, I think they would immediately challenge for the championship similar to Plymouth State's and CGA's arrival in the conference a few years ago. CGA was a perrenial bottom dweller in the Liberty Leauge before they arrived, first two years in the conference they played in the NEFC championship game and gave Curry all they could handle each time.

In terms of playing Springfield, West Conn, or even WPI the games would be much closer. I think if West Conn or WPI would join the NESCAC they would be n the bottom half of the conference. A team like Springfield would fare better depending on the year, but mostly be a middle of the pack team. Just my opinion though.

I would love to see a Husson or Springfield jump on board ,but sorry no room
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 01, 2009, 08:28:44 AM
As I do agree with Dlip and the others, but there is no fact denying that the NESCAC has better football then the NEFC. Granted their isolation prevents them from making any headway into the polls but the type of athletes that go to those schools are superior then the athletes in the NEFC. It is not unheard of for a players from the NESCAC to make a NFL training camp, as the Patriots have had some over the years. Most teams from this leauge would fare well in the E8 and LL if you want my honest opinion.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on October 01, 2009, 10:47:46 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 01, 2009, 08:28:44 AM
As I do agree with Dlip and the others, but there is no fact denying that the NESCAC has better football then the NEFC. Granted their isolation prevents them from making any headway into the polls but the type of athletes that go to those schools are superior then the athletes in the NEFC. It is not unheard of for a players from the NESCAC to make a NFL training camp, as the Patriots have had some over the years. Most teams from this leauge would fare well in the E8 and LL if you want my honest opinion.

Pep would agree. When Hamilton WAS playing Upstate teams, the Continentals seldom found much success, much like their experience to date in the NESCAC. Still, with Stetson there, Hamilton will continue to improve.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on October 01, 2009, 02:55:41 PM
I like all of the thoughts on that random throught I had.  Does D 1AA recognize Ivy League teams in their polls?  I believe the Ivy teams do play a couple of OOC games, but don't play in the dance.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: John McGraw on October 01, 2009, 03:24:25 PM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on October 01, 2009, 02:55:41 PM
I like all of the thoughts on that random throught I had.  Does D 1AA recognize Ivy League teams in their polls?  I believe the Ivy teams do play a couple of OOC games, but don't play in the dance.

Ivy teams are ranked in the FCS polls if they deserve it. I know Harvard was ranked earlier this year before losing to Holy Cross. I think the Crimson are still receiving votes as is Cornell in the Sports Network poll.

The Ivies will play 10 games, seven in the league and then three out-of-conference. Usually the games will come against foes from the northeast, namely the non-scholarship Patriot League.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pumkinattack on October 01, 2009, 03:35:39 PM
What's funny about the occasional random NESCAC discussion is that these boards kind of parallel reality about them.  The NESCAC board is 98% NESCAC posters other than the random who's junk is bigger throwdown.  Basically, no one will ever know because they don't play with others, but I kind of lean on the side that the top two or maybe three teams in the NESCAC can compete, but that beyond that there's a big dropoff each year.  We used to play a JV game with Hamilton when Hobart was a 5-5, 6-4 type team in the mid-late 90's and they would've been beaten by most section 4 (NY) football teams.  At the end of the day, its the same discussion and nothing changes.  They aren't/shouldn't be part of the larger discussion because of the choice that they make. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vern1 on October 02, 2009, 12:06:02 AM
Coast guard over mass maritime 21-14
Curry over Salve 34-21
Nichols over Endicott 13-7
Maine over Westfield 7-6
Plymouth over WNEC 31-12
MIT over Mass Dartmouth 21-6
Bridgewater over Fitchburg 41-21
Framingham over Worcester 34-6

How about we talk about whats going on in the NEFC instead of asking what ifs....


Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 02, 2009, 07:00:19 AM
Nothing is stopping you from talking about what's going on. Isn't a set of predictions exactly a "what if" post?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on October 02, 2009, 08:15:25 AM
Quote from: vern1 on October 02, 2009, 12:06:02 AM
Coast guard over mass maritime 21-14
Curry over Salve 34-21
Nichols over Endicott 13-7
Maine over Westfield 7-6
Plymouth over WNEC 31-12
MIT over Mass Dartmouth 21-6
Bridgewater over Fitchburg 41-21
Framingham over Worcester 34-6

How about we talk about whats going on in the NEFC instead of asking what ifs....




Vern what's going on in the NEFC? WTF ???
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 02, 2009, 08:54:26 AM
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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 02, 2009, 09:55:07 AM
It is already on the D3football front page, but Nathan Sherr from Mass Martitime will be in this upcoming weeks Sports Illustrated in the column "Faces in the Crowd". Congrats to Nathan and Mass Martime. It is too bad he will be out the rest of the year with a knee injury, if healthy he would of had a chance to break numerous MMA records and maybe some NEFC ones as well.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 02, 2009, 09:59:46 AM
Coast guard over mass maritime 24-8 - No sherr no problem for CGA
Curry over Salve 24-13 - Curry D will be able to keep St. Onge in check. Game of the Week.
Endicott over Nichols - Nichols coming off a win and Endicott is looking to get back on track
Westfield over Maine 21-7 - Westfield's D is the best in the leauge and Maine's D is one of the worst
Plymouth over WNEC 42-9 - This one could get ugly early.
MIT over Mass Dartmouth 24-14 - I can't believe I'm actually picking MIT over UMD. But they have been bad.
Bridgewater over Fitchburg 41-13 - Fuller is going to have a field day.
Framingham over Worcester 23-21 - Close game but Fram. has more firepower then Worcester
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on October 02, 2009, 10:18:06 AM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 02, 2009, 08:54:26 AM
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Not mad at all NLNG just having some fun as always. You know how dlip rolls, he is a bit of a wise ass. Happy Friday and good luck to our collective teams this weekend. Gotta love the end of the week during football season. dlip can almost smell the dogs cooking at Frank Bailey tomorrow night!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 04, 2009, 11:10:18 AM
Crazy week of football. Curry beat Salve and Plymouth beat WNEC leaving those programs again as the front-runners for the Boyd Division. Endicott got back on track with a thrashing of Nicholls and UMD got shut out by MIT. Wow. Crazy Stat - Driscoll of Curry as a LB has 9 int in 5 games. That is remarkable. He had three INT just in the 4th qt this week. I have to imagine he is on pace to break some school and conference records.

Fitchburg threw a wrench into things by beating Bridgewater. Then Mass Maritime gave Coast Guard all they could handle, as Karr led CGA on a game winning drive to win it. Westfield blew a golden opportunity by throwing two INT inside the 1 and lost to Maine 21-13 putting them behind the 8 ball in the division. Worcester blew a 13 pt lead and missed 3 FG inside of 30 yards to lose to Framingham 15-13. What a wild set of games on this side of the division. As of right now Framingham and CGA are in first. That is right Framingham State. The next two weeks Bridgewater plays Framingham and CGA. I think they beat both of those teams and put themselves back on top. Mass Maritime would be a contender if they still had Sherr, but until he is back they are going to play the spoiler this year. This is the year they might finally be able to beat Bridgewater in the Cranberry Bowl. But I wouldn't bet on it.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vern1 on October 05, 2009, 12:13:56 PM
Fitchburg beating bridgewater was a pretty big surprise but mass maritime losing to CGA I dont think was much of a shocker seeing as their offense was sherr(also a pretty talented O-line) and even their back up running back is not 100% healthy. I thought westfield's defense was gonna shut down maine but i think we all know westfields offense isn't winning them any games this year. Framingham didn't give up a point for the last 3 quarters of the game although worcesters field goal kicker really helped out hats off to the D. Framingham vs Bridgewater next week should be a good game to watch. Also CGA vs fitchburg will be interesting we'll see if fitchburg can pull another upset off.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: acerm on October 05, 2009, 06:56:57 PM
Going to that game Vern. Gunna show my arse. Fitchburg is my team. They pulled off a good win with Bridgewater, but they always play Bridgewater  and Coast Guard tough.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 07, 2009, 06:07:49 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 02, 2009, 08:54:26 AM
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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on October 07, 2009, 07:07:08 PM
QuoteDlip is that your hand on my ass or is that my hand on your ass ? Just trying to figure out which one I am

NLNG look how this friendship keeps evolving! +k for a very solid question!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 09, 2009, 09:57:50 AM
Westfield St over Mass Martime - This game is going to be very close. Edge goes to Westfield barely.
Maine over Worcester - The option will eat Worcester alive.
CGA over Fitchburg- HUGE game for both teams. Fitchburg needs the win to keep division hopes alive.
Curry over MIT - Curry is too strong for MIT
Bridgewater over Framingham - BSU will not get upset two weeks in a row.
Plymouth St over Endicott- I felt like making this upset special but Plymouth is firing on all cylinders right now.
Salve over Nicholls- I think St onge and Salve pull away late in this one
WNEC over Umass D - not much to offer from either team.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vern1 on October 09, 2009, 12:43:23 PM
Westfield over MMA- 13-7
Maine over worcester 34-20
Fitchburg over CGA - 27-17
Curry over MIT 40-12
Framingham over BSC 37-17
Endicott over Plymouth st 20-13
Salve over nichols- 34-14
WNEC over Umass D 22-20
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 10, 2009, 08:31:11 AM
Quote from: dlippiel on October 07, 2009, 07:07:08 PM
QuoteDlip is that your hand on my ass or is that my hand on your ass ? Just trying to figure out which one I am

NLNG look how this friendship keeps evolving! +k for a very solid question!
Heres +K right back at ya

                    Game Day good luck to all
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jkelly24 on October 10, 2009, 07:37:52 PM
Hey nlng!!
although plymouth won............very stressful   :P 
looks like the defense needs to go back to basics on tackling   >:(
Looks like nichols may not be the push over like people are saying

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 11, 2009, 11:40:50 AM
Quote from: jkelly24 on October 10, 2009, 07:37:52 PM
Hey nlng!!
although plymouth won............very stressful   :P 
looks like the defense needs to go back to basics on tackling   >:(
Looks like nichols may not be the push over like people are saying

CB23

Yes first half they looked like shirt, I'm sure Coach will give them an ass reaming this morning. They came back in the 2nd half with GREAT clock management though. We still have alot of players hurt, imagine when they get healthy. Nobody and I say nobody is a sure win anymore, all these teams have come along way in the recruiting department. Edicott is a solid team , real big up front and quick. Endicott is a team to be reconed with as is Salve and not excluding Curry either. Hey a win is a win as a win
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 13, 2009, 12:36:38 PM
Each week is going to be interesting as every team can beat another team this year. It might be a cliche but it is true in this conference. If Plymouth gets thier D in order I think they will beat Curry.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jkelly24 on October 13, 2009, 03:47:08 PM
hey nlng!!
Do you think we'll see soup back ???
What happened to the place kicker last week. Forgot his name.But, he could really boot it. Thought he might take over the field goal kicking. Mulcahy is okay a field goal but not place kicking. endicott had great field position.  The kicking game is going to be vital coming down the stretch.

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 15, 2009, 04:41:32 PM
Quote from: footballguy32 on September 22, 2009, 11:52:50 PM
we gonna get any pics for the weekend?

I can't believe how quiet it is in here. Can't we get some controversy going on here. I'm getting bored with these boards. We will never get to 200 pages not even this year. BTW where is 63 CENTER haven't heard from him in a very long time.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vern1 on October 15, 2009, 07:38:04 PM
Amen! especially with the bogan being so close
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: K-Mack on October 15, 2009, 11:01:31 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on September 17, 2009, 09:01:45 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on September 17, 2009, 06:55:07 PM
Read K-Mack's ATN and feel it gave the NEFC, specifically the Purple Drank and P-State a nice highlight. After reading, dlip really got a handle on some of the struggles the NEFC has regarding scheduling, $, coaching, and recruiting. dlip gives Skip Bandini (Curry's coach) a TON of credit for what he has accomplished, only getting paid on a part-time basis. Obviously, the full time D coordinator and interns help, but ****, how do you do it going part time? Nice article Keith and well deserved credit for Skip.
Dlppiel
Totally agree with you (somebody write this down)
NEFC is the underdog ,we try harder than most people know . That was a
great write up by Kieith . a job well done.

Just saw this.

I know it's old, but thanks guys. Knowing that you appreciate it makes all the traveling and such worthwhile.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on October 16, 2009, 12:11:05 PM
This week should help clarify the Bogan a tad bit.  Three teams go to 3-1 narrrowing the field.  My picks for the Bogan division.

Coast Guard over Bridgewater State.  Loser is out of the hunt so this should make for a great game.  Bridgewater seems to find a way to work their way out of the playoff hunt, like losing to Fitchburg in the last five miuntes of the game.  Got a feeling Coast Guard is going to catch them off guard.

Fitchburg over Worcester State.  Fitchburg I think has the inside track for the division as I see Framington losing again to somebody.  Should give them enough incentive to stomp Worcester.

Westfield State over Framington.  Mini upset of the week, but should be a close game and could go either way.

Maine Maritime over Mass Maritime.  Admiral's Cup goes to Maine for the six straight year.  Should be a good game as teams get up for this game no matter how good or bad they are at the time.


Boyd Division.  Big upset this week??  Can Nichols or Endicott catch the leaders off guard.

Endicott over Curry.  This is a stretch, but damn we need something to shake up the Boyd Division and make the title chase interesting.

Plymouth State over Nichols.  Nichols will give them a scare but Plymouth will prevail.

Salve Regina over UMD.  This is the start of the easy part of Salve Regina's schedule for the next few weeks before ending with Plymouth State.  See them romping all over the no-offense and no-defense UMD.

MIT of WNEC.  DeRon Brown sits out the fourth quarter because of physical exhaustion from running all over WNEC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vern1 on October 16, 2009, 06:51:46 PM
Coast guard over bridgewater 24-13 - coast guard is better well rounded
Fitchburg over worcester- 40-20 fitchburg has steve austin and some good recievers
Framingham not framington over westfield- 9-3 defensive battle but framingham has a lot more firepower on offense than they've shown
Maine over mass- 34-23 good game to watch but maine wil pull away
Endicott over Curry- 17-10 could go either way but I'd like to see curry get knocked out
Plymouth over Nichols- 27-12 plymouth is too much for nichols
Salve over UMD- 40-0 no contest there
MIT over WNEC- 30-6 Deron Brown too much for WNEC
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on October 16, 2009, 07:00:05 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on October 15, 2009, 11:01:31 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on September 17, 2009, 09:01:45 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on September 17, 2009, 06:55:07 PM
Read K-Mack's ATN and feel it gave the NEFC, specifically the Purple Drank and P-State a nice highlight. After reading, dlip really got a handle on some of the struggles the NEFC has regarding scheduling, $, coaching, and recruiting. dlip gives Skip Bandini (Curry's coach) a TON of credit for what he has accomplished, only getting paid on a part-time basis. Obviously, the full time D coordinator and interns help, but ****, how do you do it going part time? Nice article Keith and well deserved credit for Skip.
Dlppiel
Totally agree with you (somebody write this down)
NEFC is the underdog ,we try harder than most people know . That was a
great write up by Kieith . a job well done.

Just saw this.

I know it's old, but thanks guys. Knowing that you appreciate it makes all the traveling and such worthwhile.

Likewise, Pep appreciated the opportunity to chat with you, K-Mack...and the kind words. Pep saw that you had attended the Hiram-Gallaudet game a few years ago and Pep remembers why you were there, which bears testimony that you care about ALL of D3 football. Kudos for that!

During commercials of the Cincy-South Florida game last night, Pep was flipping over to the CBS Sports channel where they were televising the Virginia Union vs. Virginia State D2 football game. It apparently was the 100th meeting of the two "rivals" yet the bleachers were EMPTY. Pep thought about some of the D3 rivalries...and how they draw big crowds, no matter the teams' records. But Pep realizes a lot of D3 teams do not enjoy big followings, too. But it seemed overkill to be televising a big rivalry game in which, it appeared, no one was interested.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 17, 2009, 09:17:05 AM
Quote from: vern1 on October 16, 2009, 06:51:46 PM
Coast guard over bridgewater 24-13 - coast guard is better well rounded
Fitchburg over worcester- 40-20 fitchburg has steve austin and some good recievers
Framingham not framington over westfield- 9-3 defensive battle but framingham has a lot more firepower on offense than they've shown
Maine over mass- 34-23 good game to watch but maine wil pull away
Endicott over Curry- 17-10 could go either way but I'd like to see curry get knocked out
Plymouth over Nichols- 27-12 plymouth is too much for nichols
Salve over UMD- 40-0 no contest there
MIT over WNEC- 30-6 Deron Brown too much for WNEC


Game day, strap em up, tie em tight , put your game faces on, play ball.
                                   good luck to all
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FootFan on October 19, 2009, 11:19:40 AM
Two solid games of the week this week.  The obvious Curry v Plymouth showdown for the Boyd and the Westfield v Bridgewater game is the best in the Bogan.  Any thoughts on these two games?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 20, 2009, 06:47:09 PM

where is 63 CENTER haven't heard from him in a very long time.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 22, 2009, 06:31:10 PM
Quote from: 63Center on October 30, 2007, 06:29:02 PM
NLNG, playing nice with others might help get your some Karma. 
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I sure do hope so. Dlip thinks so
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jkelly24 on October 22, 2009, 07:54:09 PM
hey nlng!!
your reply has no reply on your last post ;D
are you nervous about the plymouth/curry game this week?  ::)
plymouth needs to step up on the special teams against curry,
but don't even think about field goals  :-\

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on October 22, 2009, 09:01:49 PM
dlip thinks NLNG has been ****in coo +k to him.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 23, 2009, 05:03:26 AM
 a job well done.

Look how far we have come NLNG  ;)

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Now thats what I'm talking about dlip. just a little +K . one back at ya.






CB23 not worried at all !! It's going to be a great game jn the rain, wear your golashes. where is your mask? wear your mask too!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 23, 2009, 09:34:48 AM
OK, NLNG I'm back since you ask about me.  Thanks for the love.  Here are my picks for this week:

Framingham 21 MME 17 - O just think Framingham is a better team

EC 30 WNEC 27 - This should be a good game, but I give it to the Gulls at home and they are going to be looking for blood after last week's embarassment

Nichols 27 UMD 35 - UMD will put it all together at home this week and show that they are better than they have been playing.

SRU 42 MIT 7  - SRU is playing good ball

Fitchburg 30 MMA 10

BSC 21 Westfield 14 - This could be a good game

USCGA 28  Worcester St.  21 - I look for the Cadets to get things going

GAME OF THE WEEK AND MAYBE YEAR FOR THE NEFC:

PSU 21 Curry 18  - This will dictate the conference champs.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FootFan on October 23, 2009, 10:56:41 AM
MME 34 Framingham 14 - Framingham done

WNEC 31 EC 27 - Pretty even

Nichols 31 UMD 7 - UMD just bad

SRU 42 MIT 10  - St. Onge legit

Fitchburg 45 MMA 10 -  Mass Maritime done

Westfield 21 BSC 0 - Best D in the division will win

CGA 31  Worcester St.  14 - Too much Karr

PSU 28 Curry 14  - PSU new sherrif in town
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 23, 2009, 06:39:45 PM
Quote from: 63Center on October 23, 2009, 09:34:48 AM
OK, NLNG I'm back since you ask about me.  Thanks for the love.  Here are my picks for this week:

Framingham 21 MME 17 - O just think Framingham is a better team

EC 30 WNEC 27 - This should be a good game, but I give it to the Gulls at home and they are going to be looking for blood after last week's embarassment

Nichols 27 UMD 35 - UMD will put it all together at home this week and show that they are better than they have been playing.

SRU 42 MIT 7  - SRU is playing good ball

Fitchburg 30 MMA 10

BSC 21 Westfield 14 - This could be a good game

USCGA 28  Worcester St.  21 - I look for the Cadets to get things going

GAME OF THE WEEK AND MAYBE YEAR FOR THE NEFC:

PSU 21 Curry 18  - This will dictate the conference champs.
Welcome back 63 + K for you

Here's my picks
MME over Framingham  24-21   ..MME controls the clock..Framingham looking better than ever though.

EC  over WNEC  31-24 should be a good game.

UMD over Nichols 21-17 UMD needs this bad !!

SRU over MIT 41-38 their prayers have been answered

FSC over MMA 27 -7 then again this could get ugly

BSC over Westfield 21-20 good game too

Worcester over USCGA 24-21



                             THE GAME TO BE AT!!!!!!
PSU over Curry 33-24 you can't miss this one

Good luck to all, welcome back 63 center :D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 25, 2009, 01:03:11 PM
Looks like some of the praise you guys gave Framingham came back to bite them in the butt as they were down 43-0 at one point. Maine established themselves as the top dog in the Bogan with the win and Bridgewater's loss to Westfield. Maine is 6-1 and I do not think they are going to be beat the rest of the year

Curry takes out Plymouth and looks to be the Boyd champ. As of right now it seems like Maine will make the championship game again and Curry will return.

Congrats to WNEC beating Endicott, they have shown more fight this year then anyone would have expected.

Final thought is how bout Mass Maritime. They lose Sherr but continue to fight and beat the heck out of Fitchburg. Their losses are only by a handful of points and they might be the youngest team in the conference. I think they play Framingham next week and I think they beat them as Framingham is on a 4 game losing streak. That will set up a game against Bridgewater St which could be the first time they have an actual shot at winning the Cranberry Bowl. If sherr comes back healthy next year for Mass, I strongly believe they have a shot at the Bogan.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 25, 2009, 06:48:11 PM
Plymouth didn't look good on Saturday. many missed tackles in the backfield (wrap up ), 3 int's ,& penalties. Curry really didn't look all that great either ,but a win is a win .
Plymouth still stingy up the middle. I think offiating could of been better ,but you can't leave it up to them. Now they have to win out to have a bid. I still believe,(now this is just my opinion) Plymouth is still the better team.

                                              Nuff Said
     
                                               N L N G   
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 25, 2009, 09:42:33 PM
NLNG,

I hope your not talking about an NCAA bid, because they do not have a shot at that. Maybe an ECAC bid, but that will be the closest thing Plymouth will be to a bid.

You can not say Plymouth is the better team when your QB, of an option team throws 3 INTs. Either the run was shut down, or you were getting beat up pretty good on the scoreboard. Either way it suggests that Curry was the superior team.

Endicott is probaly saying thier better then Plymouth ST after blowing a huge lead, and they are 3-5. Point is if you lose to a team by 2 TD's, your most likely not the better team.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on October 26, 2009, 12:53:43 AM
I follow Maine and at first it looked like Framingham was going to make it a decent game, but after a few series Maine just took it to them.  Of course I want to see Maine win out, but next week is Coast Guard and they always seem to give them trouble.  But overall, it's hard to know from week to week who is going to win.  Lot of surprises each week.

Got to see Mass Maritime play against Maine and I agree this could be a team to watch out for.  Offense executes very well.  Cranberry Bowl could go either way the way Mass Maritime is playing.  Bridgewater State is so good one week and then goes flat the next. 

If Westfield State had a little more offense they could have probably won it this year



Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 25, 2009, 01:03:11 PM
Looks like some of the praise you guys gave Framingham came back to bite them in the butt as they were down 43-0 at one point. Maine established themselves as the top dog in the Bogan with the win and Bridgewater's loss to Westfield. Maine is 6-1 and I do not think they are going to be beat the rest of the year

Curry takes out Plymouth and looks to be the Boyd champ. As of right now it seems like Maine will make the championship game again and Curry will return.

Congrats to WNEC beating Endicott, they have shown more fight this year then anyone would have expected.

Final thought is how bout Mass Maritime. They lose Sherr but continue to fight and beat the heck out of Fitchburg. Their losses are only by a handful of points and they might be the youngest team in the conference. I think they play Framingham next week and I think they beat them as Framingham is on a 4 game losing streak. That will set up a game against Bridgewater St which could be the first time they have an actual shot at winning the Cranberry Bowl. If sherr comes back healthy next year for Mass, I strongly believe they have a shot at the Bogan.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on October 26, 2009, 10:20:11 AM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 25, 2009, 06:48:11 PM
Plymouth didn't look good on Saturday. many missed tackles in the backfield (wrap up ), 3 int's ,& penalties. Curry really didn't look all that great either ,but a win is a win .
Plymouth still stingy up the middle. I think offiating could of been better ,but you can't leave it up to them. Now they have to win out to have a bid. I still believe,(now this is just my opinion) Plymouth is still the better team.

                                              Nuff Said
     
                                               N L N G   

NLNG, I was at the game this past weekend as well and maybe saw things a little different than you.  Curry looked like the better team in all facets of the game.  They ate us up with no contain on their QB.  He was able to dance around the whole game and break for 1st downs and the TD at will it seemed.  Plymouth did stuff their RB, but they beat us on pretty much every play that started as a pass.  That scrambling 50 yd TD pass to their TE just before the half was a killer, but not the biggest problem I saw with that game.

I have all the support in the world for the Panther program, but what the hell was Castonia thinking in the late 2nd half of that game?  We needed 3 scores at the end of the game with 5+ minutes remaining in the 3rd quarter.  We ran the ball 95% of the time and chewed up 10 minutes of clock on 1 scoring drive.  He was calling plays as if we were up and trying to burn the clock out.  By the time we got the ball back their was 5 minutes left in the game and we needed 2 TDs.  Not until that point did he go with more than a double TE and 1 WR set.  It made no sense to me.

This is not an excuse, it is reality on why we lost.  Curry came out hit harder and made the plays.  My hats off to them. 

It has been a long time since I have gotten my blood pumping for a game like I did at that opening coin flip.  Both teams were fired up and it was an electric atmosphere on a typical New England fall day.  It was was D3 football is all about....I felt the passion of both teams and their fans.

Did anyone noticed that their seemed to be more Plymouth fans than Curry fans at that game?  Very nice ball field they have their as well.

Plymouth will score an ECAC bid vs. an E8 team and Curry will earn that NCAA bid.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 26, 2009, 10:37:14 AM
PantherPride,

That all depends on the E8 race at this point. Plymouth could actually be the odd team out depending if teams accept nominations. Alfred and Springfield are leaders in the E8 and face very tough schedules down the stretch. If Springfield loses another game they will lose out on a Pool C bid on the playoffs. Even if Springfield runs the table they might not get that bid. This means Fisher, Ithaca,  will all be up for ECAC bids at least, and with a loss as will Springfield. Add to this  pool the champion of the ECFC conference and you now have 4 teams from these two conferences vying for 4 ECAC bids. Normally the loser of the NEFC championship game gets the first invitation to an ECAC game, which now leaves 5 teams ahead of Plymouth for an ECAC bid.

Lets play the most possible scenario, Alfred wins the E8 gets the auto, Springfield loses to SJF or Ithaca in thier final two games and Norwich wins the ECFC and Curry beats Maine in the championship the bids in my mind would go

1. Springfield (7-2) E8
2. Maine (8-2) (Bogan Champ / Loser NEFC CG)
3. Norwich (7-3) Winnner of ECFC
4. SJF (6-4) E8
5. Ithaca (7-3) E8
6. Plymouth (8-2)

So Plymouth's best hope is for Springfield / Alfred to win out and get two teams from the E8 and then hope that the Springfield defeats of Ithaca and SJF will prople them over one of those two schools for a bid. Or Ithaca or SJF decide to pass up the invitations.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 26, 2009, 01:29:03 PM
I listened to part of the Curry-PSU game on the radio and it sure souinded like Curry was the better team.  I would say that Curry will end up with another NEFC championship and the automatic NCAA bid.  It would be nce if they could win another NCAA game.

I am trying to figure out what is going on with EC.  The were up against PSU and lost and they were up against WNEC and lost.  It looks like they aren't playing a full 60 minutes of FB. 

I also can't figure out BSC.  They look great one game and then terrible the next.  Maybe its the competition.

SRU is looking good this year. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jkelly24 on October 27, 2009, 03:08:16 PM
hey nlng!!
amazing... the sharks circling under the water, just waiting to rip plymouth apart, finally got the chance with their loss to curry.  ::)      never a positive comment before the past weekend.  >:(

anyway, i am not familiar with the "at large vote" process. How does this work?

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on October 27, 2009, 05:03:49 PM
Quote from: jkelly24 on October 27, 2009, 03:08:16 PM
hey nlng!!
amazing... the sharks circling under the water, just waiting to rip plymouth apart, finally got the chance with their loss to curry.  ::)      never a positive comment before the past weekend.  >:(

anyway, i am not familiar with the "at large vote" process. How does this work?

CB23


Dude,
You lose a lot of respect with everyone when you make the comment, "Plymouth St. may have lost, but they are still the better team."

Very minor league....I am surprised he didn't get hammered worse for making the statement and you for defending what he said.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 27, 2009, 05:06:08 PM
Quote from: Union89 on October 27, 2009, 05:03:49 PM
Quote from: jkelly24 on October 27, 2009, 03:08:16 PM
hey nlng!!
amazing... the sharks circling under the water, just waiting to rip plymouth apart, finally got the chance with their loss to curry.  ::)      never a positive comment before the past weekend.  >:(

anyway, i am not familiar with the "at large vote" process. How does this work?

CB23


Dude,
You lose a lot of respect with everyone when you make the comment, "Plymouth St. may have lost, but they are still the better team."

Very minor league....I am surprised he didn't get hammered worse for making the statement and you for defending what he said.

Leave him alone U89...I can answer the at large bid question though....It goes like this...

Don't worry about it...You don't qualify.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 27, 2009, 06:02:02 PM
 Don't you just love the LewDogg ! I said it was my opinion no yours not his but  MYor MINE thats all ! We were in the backfield so many times and we let th QB get away . You didn't see that Pather pride or were you drinking your coffee at that time Last years Curry team was a better team than this one. Curry came out on top this year . Boxer hopefully we get your team for ECAC that would be ok with me.



                                      nuff said
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 27, 2009, 06:51:13 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 27, 2009, 06:02:02 PM
Don't you just love the LewDogg ! I said it was my opinion no yours not his but  MYor MINE thats all ! We were in the backfield so many times and we let th QB get away . You didn't see that Pather pride or were you drinking your coffee at that time Last years Curry team was a better team than this one. Curry came out on top this year . Boxer hopefully we get your team for ECAC that would be ok with me.



                                     nuff said

I just tried to read this post like 6 times and i'm still not sure what it said...


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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 27, 2009, 07:02:00 PM
Dogg Dew your too much
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 27, 2009, 07:03:45 PM
Quote from: Veda Sultenfuss on October 27, 2009, 06:51:13 PM

then go back to school to learn how to read pussazz
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 27, 2009, 06:02:02 PM
Don't you just love the LewDogg ! I said it was my opinion no yours not his but  MYor MINE thats all ! We were in the backfield so many times and we let th QB get away . You didn't see that Pather pride or were you drinking your coffee at that time Last years Curry team was a better team than this one. Curry came out on top this year . Boxer hopefully we get your team for ECAC that would be ok with me.



                                     nuff said

I just tried to read this post like 6 times and i'm still not sure what it said...


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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 27, 2009, 07:07:05 PM
 I think that banannananana hamock is cutting off oxygn to your head
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 27, 2009, 07:32:22 PM
C'mon 200
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on October 28, 2009, 09:13:07 AM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 27, 2009, 06:02:02 PM
Don't you just love the LewDogg ! I said it was my opinion no yours not his but  MYor MINE thats all ! We were in the backfield so many times and we let th QB get away . You didn't see that Pather pride or were you drinking your coffee at that time Last years Curry team was a better team than this one. Curry came out on top this year . Boxer hopefully we get your team for ECAC that would be ok with me.



                                      nuff said

NLNG, I watched every second of that game and would hope that as a former player I would have some knowledge of what was unfolding in front of me.  We were in their backfield, but we had no contain on the edges as I stated previously.  Yes we sacked the qb 3 times, but we also gave up 70 yds on 9 carries to their QB that made every 1st down that they needed and when they needed.  The QB having 10 seconds to scramble and make the TD pass at the end of the 1st half was a prime example.  By the way, I don't drink coffee.

Just a quick question, are you #31 father?  It's just a guess.

Go Panthers!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 28, 2009, 11:21:55 AM
NLNG

You won't be playing Bridgewater in the playoffs becuase it is unlikely they will get an ECAC bid. Lets face it you and JKelly are homers for Plymouth St and think you should be favored to beat Mt Union. Your team was beat handily on saturday. Curry could care less about the TD you marched down the field in the 4th to make the score closer because it took 10 Minutes!. Of course they will trade a score up 20-3 to kill ten mintues of the clock in the 4th QT.
In every game teams miss tackles in the backfield, and more times then not multiple tackles in the backfield. If that is your excuse for why Plymouth lost your crazy.

I also have not said nothing but negative things about Plymouth ST. All i stated was I believed Curry was the better team heading into this year and Endicott and Salve had a chance at upsetting them. Was I way off in my thinking? Endicott should of beat Plymouth if not for a dramatic comeback which you guys get all the credit in the world. I even gave Plymouth praise about a week ago saying if the defense got in order (which is your claim to why you lost), I thought they would beat Curry.

Get your facts straight. Nuff said.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 28, 2009, 06:27:37 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 28, 2009, 11:21:55 AM
Boxer maybe we'll see you next year and get together and have a coffee. I would appreciate it if you put quotes on my line "Nuff said" since that is my calling card. Just a typical fan blowing off steam when your team loses, it was tough to take thats all.





NLNG

You won't be playing Bridgewater in the playoffs becuase it is unlikely they will get an ECAC bid. Lets face it me and you are homers for Plymouth St and Bridgewater St and think we should be favored to beat Mt Union. Your team was beat handily on saturday. Curry could care less about the TD you marched down the field in the 4th to make the score closer because it took 10 Minutes!. Of course they will trade a score up 20-3 to kill ten mintues of the clock in the 4th QT.
In every game teams miss tackles in the backfield, and more times then not multiple tackles in the backfield. If that is your excuse for why Plymouth lost your crazy.

I also have not said nothing but negative things about Plymouth ST. All i stated was I believed Curry was the better team heading into this year and Endicott and Salve had a chance at upsetting them. Was I way off in my thinking? Endicott should of beat Plymouth if not for a dramatic comeback which you guys get all the credit in the world. I even gave Plymouth praise about a week ago saying if the defense got in order (which is your claim to why you lost), I thought they would beat Curry.

Get your facts straight. Nuff said.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 28, 2009, 06:31:03 PM
Quote from: PantherPr1de on October 28, 2009, 09:13:07 AM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 27, 2009, 06:02:02 PM
Don't you just love the LewDogg ! I said it was my opinion no yours not his but  MYor MINE thats all ! We were in the backfield so many times and we let th QB get away . You didn't see that Pather pride or were you drinking your coffee at that time Last years Curry team was a better team than this one. Curry came out on top this year . Boxer hopefully we get your team for ECAC that would be ok with me.



                                      nuff said

NLNG, I watched every second of that game and would hope that as a former player I would have some knowledge of what was unfolding in front of me.  We were in their backfield, but we had no contain on the edges as I stated previously.  Yes we sacked the qb 3 times, but we also gave up 70 yds on 9 carries to their QB that made every 1st down that they needed and when they needed.  The QB having 10 seconds to scramble and make the TD pass at the end of the 1st half was a prime example.  By the way, I don't drink coffee.

Just a quick question, are you #31 father?  It's just a guess.

Go Panthers!

Quick answer NO
You'll be surprised when you find out though.go look at my e-mail address that will tell all
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jkelly24 on October 28, 2009, 07:34:00 PM
hey nlng!!
wow!!!!! ;D ;D     we really got things exciting... even a rise out of the banananananans   :-X

to veda sultenfuss      lew poodle  or what ever,
you consider yourself an all- american?  you disrepect this board by making a joke towards my question, asking if someone could explain what is an at- large bid?  your answer was disrespectful and shows you have no class.     :-*


CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 28, 2009, 07:47:25 PM
what a slap to the face that was ....ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 28, 2009, 07:49:04 PM
Patherpride , did you figure it out yet ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 28, 2009, 11:12:34 PM
Quote from: jkelly24 on October 28, 2009, 07:34:00 PM
hey nlng!!
wow!!!!! ;D ;D     we really got things exciting... even a rise out of the banananananans   :-X

to veda sultenfuss      lew poodle  or what ever,
you consider yourself an all- american?  you disrepect this board by making a joke towards my question, asking if someone could explain what is an at- large bid?  your answer was disrespectful and shows you have no class.     :-*


CB23

Ok, you want a classy post moron...Learn how to read...Pat did a lot of work for your answers on the FAQ page.

http://www.d3football.com/faq.php?answer&category=Playoffs&id=25
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 28, 2009, 11:17:20 PM
Quote from: jkelly24 on October 28, 2009, 07:34:00 PM
hey nlng!!
wow!!!!! ;D ;D     we really got things exciting... even a rise out of the banananananans   :-X

to veda sultenfuss      lew poodle  or what ever,
you consider yourself an all- american? 

Do you consider yourself JV?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 29, 2009, 05:15:32 AM
Quote from: Veda Sultenfuss on October 28, 2009, 11:12:34 PM
Quote from: jkelly24 on October 28, 2009, 07:34:00 PM
hey nlng!!
wow!!!!! ;D ;D     we really got things exciting... even a rise out of the banananananans   :-X

to veda sultenfuss      lew poodle  or what ever,
you consider yourself an all- american?  you disrepect this board by making a joke towards my question, asking if someone could explain what is an at- large bid?  your answer was disrespectful and shows you have no class.     :-*


CB23

Ok, you want a classy post moron...Learn how to read...Pat did a lot of work for your answers on the FAQ page.

http://www.d3football.com/faq.php?answer&category=Playoffs&id=25

Now thats classy ...Thankyou

I think your new name should be SIBIL seeings though you like to change your name so often
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 29, 2009, 08:49:40 AM
I think the Plymouth fans are beginning to be more hated then the Fisher fans. I did not think that was possible.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on October 29, 2009, 10:55:02 AM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 28, 2009, 07:49:04 PM
Patherpride , did you figure it out yet ?

I was able to put it together.  I don't know your son, but I am pretty sure I figured it out. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on October 29, 2009, 10:57:22 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 29, 2009, 08:49:40 AM
I think the Plymouth fans are beginning to be more hated then the Fisher fans. I did not think that was possible.

I see no evidence of hate here, just some message board discussion.  If it was, you know what we like to say: Always hated, never duplicated. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 29, 2009, 11:01:46 AM
I'm not referring to your Panther Pride, more NLNG and JKelly. I as a NEFC poster have nothing against them because they help keep the pages moving.

Quick question for NLNG - Why do you post multiple messages in response to one post? Does your computer have a glitch?

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 29, 2009, 06:22:56 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 29, 2009, 08:49:40 AM
I think the Plymouth fans are beginning to be more hated then the Fisher fans. I did not think that was possible.

Now X those are some pretty strong words   HATE , that really doesn't make me to happy. Alot of these post I state what I feel, ya sure I'm not right all the time , but I'm entitled to my opinion, correct . Yes I've been one of the people to get these  ****ing pages moving and you as well . 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 29, 2009, 06:43:08 PM
Quote from: admin on September 23, 2005, 09:28:39 PM
Axe-grinding.

This is not a place for axe-grinding.

Stop your axe-grinding.


You have made your point.

Hopefully this is clear enough for you.

I like this !! I found it a couple of pages back
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 30, 2009, 08:48:28 AM
more than a couple pages back, that is one old post.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 30, 2009, 01:40:40 PM
maybe I shouldn't say hate, but dislike. That is much better.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 30, 2009, 02:55:50 PM
Ah, don't you just the love the friendly banter between the boys here on the NEFC pages.  I do agree that NLNG do folks fired up and started getting the pages moving.  Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even when they are dead wrong.  Keep up the chatter.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 30, 2009, 09:56:52 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on October 28, 2009, 06:27:37 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 28, 2009, 11:21:55 AM
Boxer maybe we'll see you next year and get together and have a coffee. I would appreciate it if you put quotes on my line "Nuff said" since that is my calling card. Just a typical fan blowing off steam when your team loses, it was tough to take thats all.





NLNG

You won't be playing Bridgewater in the playoffs becuase it is unlikely they will get an ECAC bid. Lets face it me and you are homers for Plymouth St and Bridgewater St and think we should be favored to beat Mt Union. Your team was beat handily on saturday. Curry could care less about the TD you marched down the field in the 4th to make the score closer because it took 10 Minutes!. Of course they will trade a score up 20-3 to kill ten mintues of the clock in the 4th QT.
In every game teams miss tackles in the backfield, and more times then not multiple tackles in the backfield. If that is your excuse for why Plymouth lost your crazy.

I also have not said nothing but negative things about Plymouth ST. All i stated was I believed Curry was the better team heading into this year and Endicott and Salve had a chance at upsetting them. Was I way off in my thinking? Endicott should of beat Plymouth if not for a dramatic comeback which you guys get all the credit in the world. I even gave Plymouth praise about a week ago saying if the defense got in order (which is your claim to why you lost), I thought they would beat Curry.

Get your facts straight. Nuff said.

Hey boxer I love THIS quote ... read it closely my homer buddy
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 31, 2009, 12:34:01 PM
Here are my quick picks for the week:

Westfield over Fitchburg
EC over UMD
MME beats USCGA
MMA over Framingham
PSU back to winning over MIT
SRU over WNEC
BSC over Worcester State
Curry clobbers Nichols

Are you ready for some football?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on October 31, 2009, 04:15:01 PM
I assume that someone forgot to tell the defense to come to the USCGA-MEM game today.  76-49; that is more like a basketball score than a FB game. 

What has happened to UMD this year?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 31, 2009, 06:30:09 PM
How bout Maine huh. 76 points is a new record for the NEFC I believe for points in one game. Umass D is extremely young and it has showed in every game this year. Maine is hitting on all cylinders right now and I think will give us a great game against Curry this year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 31, 2009, 06:34:31 PM
NLNG

Your so clever. I think everyone can agree I dont boast and brag about Bridgewater on these pages. I even said at the beginning of the year that Maine was the team to beat in the Bogan. Heck you have asked me twice on these pages who my team affiliation is, so how do i qualify as a homer for Bridgewater?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan81 on October 31, 2009, 11:19:48 PM
ok ill start off saying that things are starting to shape up for the conference championship. Curry had their big test in plymouth and seemed to get by that hump quite easily. They will be a good representative of the Boyd side of the division and a tough matchup for anyone.

On the other side of the division which no one here ever seems to talk about is Maine Maritime. Everyone likes to talk about Curry and PLymouth on here. PLymouth had their glory last year, this year i have seen nothing impressive from them at all. And yes nonline glory im sure your team could take on mount union away but be honest with yourself that curry looked much better.

Anyways Maine maritime from the scores and numbers they are putting up in my opinion are the team to beat. 76 points and over 700 yards is absolutely rediculous. Good luck stopping a running attack like that. I thought they were stricly an option team? but i have seen some i formation out of them. Anyways start paying attention to the bogan side of the division folks because currys offense is not going to be able to carry them anymore, and maine maritimes offense is a force to be wreckoned with. and dont forget maritime is also top two in sacks in the league so like i said pay attention and get on the band wagon if your smart..
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 01, 2009, 10:23:32 AM
If Maine Maritine gives up 49 points against USCGA's 2nd string QB, they might have some problems against Curry.  I must admist though that MME is coming on and may be peaking at the right time.  MME-Curry for the NEFC Championship could be a high scoring game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan81 on November 01, 2009, 11:19:14 AM
now this was a game i was fortunate enough to be at, being an alumnus of MMA class of 81', I live in the area and was very excited to be attending the game. Coast Guard seemed to keep their first string in the entire game, while MMA put their second and even third string guys in. So say what you want about the points it most likely could have been around 95+ to 40 if maine had kept their first string in the entire game. I dont see curry or plymouth putting up even close to those numbers against a much weaker schedule.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 01, 2009, 04:35:31 PM
To go along with Football Fan, Maine D is not as bad as everyone says it is. Take a look at a lot of their scores and you will notice that the team gives up a lot of garbage time TD's once their second and third string guys come in. This is the second week in a row that this has come in to play for them. Framingham did not score until they were down 40-0 last week against them. If you take a look at the box scores of alot of MMA games you will see that.

I have been talking about Maine the entire year as a contender for the Bogan division and had them as the team to beat in the pre season. I think Maine is the best team in the conference this year and will win the NEFC championship as well.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 01, 2009, 08:32:29 PM
Maybe Curry's days are numbered.  Maine Maritine is coming on.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: colaboard9264 on November 01, 2009, 10:32:56 PM
everyone who fails to show curry respect continues to be made a fool of. i graduated from curry in 91' and have had great pleasure watching the curry defense this year. and i must say they are the best defense that  has ever roamed the field  at curry. 48.6 yards rushing against them 13.0 points a game. people who got maine maritime winning this nefc championship game forgets that the triple option offense is won and lost in the A and B Gaps. and finch and ushry are two of the best defense line combinations in the conference if not top 10 in the nation. they will jam up the middle and let the speedy  and very physical linebackers  led by the tackle machines dawson&driscoll. will not let mm get vertical.curry's defense shuts maine out and the offense scores. my prediction maine loses 28-7
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 01, 2009, 10:36:17 PM
And obviously never heard of the "shift" key. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on November 01, 2009, 10:39:30 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 01, 2009, 10:36:17 PM
And obviously never heard of the "shift" key. 

GOOD ONE!! +K
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan81 on November 01, 2009, 11:31:05 PM
you know nothing of the triple option, another ignorant curry or plymouth fan. The a and b gaps huh, you think coast guard would have realized that and not allowed 740 rushing yards, a d2,3 record. And curry is allowing more rushing yards than you think. its around 100 and mma will turn that into 400. Once again you know nothing of the triple option, when it is on it can not be stopped and any reply you have to that i am glad to hear out
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 01, 2009, 11:37:53 PM
Hey i love the passion you have for Curry, and we all know they have a very formidable defensive front. To say those two kids are the best D line combo in the NEFC and maybe top ten in the nation is high praise. All year Westfield has proven to be the best defense in the conference and their D tackle Fall is the real deal. I would actually say Westfield has a better defense overall than Curry. That is not to say Curry's D is not good, Driscoll is most likely the defensive player of the year and Curry has some incredible stats against worthy competition this year in Bentley and Widener.
If you have watched Maine recently, their triple option attack does not focus entirely out of pounding the A and B gaps. If it was that simple every team would be alot more sucessfull at stopping it. Maine has showed they can rush the ball to all gaps and stretch teams vertically if the safeties try to cheat to much.
I remember not to long ago, a less talented team in Maine stunned a Curry team that featured some great defensive players. I'm pretty sure that team included a couple stud D tackles including a kid Pinto who won defensive player of the year before he left. That team also had some other studs at LB who were all league kids and even maybe that years Def. Player of the year.
I know your an alum, and you support your team, but Maine is the real deal this year. If Curry handles them like you say, I'll make sure to acknowledge it and be ready to eat my crow. Lets hope for a great game though.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3playsforpassion on November 02, 2009, 08:08:45 AM
I think that the Maine vs. Curry game will be a very good game.  Curry is a good team this year, and their defense is solid, but I feel they were stronger last year all around.  Maine was a good team last year, and I feel they are stronger this year all around. 

I watched the Plymouth/Maine game last year and it took Plymouth a while to figure  out, how to play against Maine on both sides of the ball.  That game could have gone either way last year (and Plymouth was also a better team last year than they are this year).

This game isn't a sure win for either team and whoever wins deserves to represent the conference in the playoffs.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jkelly24 on November 02, 2009, 01:23:36 PM
hey D3playsforpassion,
it took plymouth 2 maine offensive series to figure out the maine game plan. 35-16 at half  ::) does that seem to be "quite a while"               hey yoshi senior are you catching this?????
obviously, i am avid plymouth fan. but, i am also a boyd division fan. it sickens me to see, year after year, 2 great teams (plymouth and curry) opportunity to make the ncaa's is based on head to head games. after lew poodle enlightened me on the at-large bid formula (through daddy pat coleman), curry did qualify for that last year and proved it.
anyway, i am pulling for curry. it is obvious that the boyd division is superior.

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: colaboard9264 on November 02, 2009, 03:53:59 PM
dear footballfan81,
if you knew the basics of the triple option game then you would know that triple option if given the chance will and can attack the  A and B gaps and is the qb's first read. and once you shut down the A and B gaps which currys interior line will do. you generally have to run the ball to the outside and no disrespect to coast guard but curry's defense is faster. like i said  yesterday with no disrespect to maine maritime curry wins behind zach cavanaughs arm and leg 28-7
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan81 on November 02, 2009, 05:14:48 PM
The triple option isnt called an A B option. On every play, if every block is hit( cut blocks not straight up power blocks), then every play can be a touchdown. Shut down the A and B gaps, or the fullback game and then that still leaves two more options. Im sure you have the schooling to understand this. The other two options pitch the ball or keep the ball. I dont know if a runningback who apparently averaged around 25 yards per carry on 8 carries can be caught by even the ''faster'' curry team. There is a reason that maine maritime put up 76 points, that isnt a fluke. Im assuming that you have played against an option team defensively. And hey if you wouldnt mind looking it up, who won the last contest between these two teams just out of curiosity?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: colaboard9264 on November 02, 2009, 08:01:33 PM
dear footballfan81,
last time curry met maine maritime in a contest mma won 28-21 then the previous year  curry won 30-0, also sir while i appreciate your love for mma(no doubt a fan). you need to know that even when pinto and his LB  were at curry they still did not have more talent then this years defense. too many weak spots.  that this years squad just doesnt have i have had the pleasure of watching both these defenses play and i must truly say 2009  squad is the best! 76 points is a rare feat that wont be accomplished again.  curry prides itself on stopping the run and there defensive coach will not let jim bower and the mma offense tear them up like they have done to the weaker bogan defenders(except for bridgewater) sir either way i take nothing away from these teams they are both good. but again i say led behind the fearless tenacity of driscoll and dawson  and currys stingy defense curry wins 28-7
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on November 03, 2009, 10:04:45 AM
Just wanted to pop on a quick link to a great article that was on the front sports page of the USA Today about DeRon Brown and MIT football.  Great to see this kid and that program is getting recognized.....1-7 or not.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2009-11-02-mit-brown_N.htm
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HailMary15 on November 03, 2009, 10:51:25 AM
Not trying to imply that Plymouth wouldn't have won if he remained in the game but Maine Maritime's starting QB was hurt on the third series. He was replaced by a Freshman who struggled, which you would expect from a kid being thrown into his first pressure situation of his career (in a conference championship no less) The tripple option is dependent the quarterback making the proper reads in an instant. Any delay greatly hinders the effectiveness of the offense.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 03, 2009, 12:39:10 PM
ECAC Bowl (North Subregion) Update (As of 11/3/09 @ 10:15am)

The following teams have applied for consideration for ECAC Championship games on 11/21/09 from the North Subregion of the ECAC:

Maine Maritime (7-1, 5-1) *
Springfield (7-1, 3-1) *
Plymouth State (7-2, 5-1)
SUNY-Cortland (6-2, 6-2)
Hartwick (5-3, 1-3) +
St. John Fisher (4-3, 3-2) +
RPI (4-3, 2-3)
Gallaudet (5-4, 3-2) =
Framingham State (5-4, 3-3)
Utica (3-5, 0-4) X

Records are overall followed by respective league records.

* - Team could still win an NCAA berth.

+ - Team plays against another team in the list in future game.

= - Team may play an 11th game prior to the ECACs, disallowing team from playing 12th game unless that game were an NCAA Playoff game.

X - Team currently does not have record that would allow it to be considered (>=.500 overall or in league).


Six teams will be picked from the list of teams that file for consideration.  The deadline for consideration without late fee is THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 5TH at 5pm EST. 

Teams will be selected by the ECAC Football Championships Committee on or about 11/15/09 (following selection of the NCAA Playoffs field).  Teams historically have been selected by win-loss record except when ties exist.  The #1 team hosts the #6 team, the #2 team hosts the #5 team and the #3 team hosts the #4 team, unless the higher-seeded team does not file to host the game.  All games begin at 12pm local time on 11/21/09.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jkelly24 on November 03, 2009, 03:24:29 PM
hey hailmary15,
with what plymouth has gone through this year with injuries(5 starters, 2 in the backfield) i feel your pain.
but, both teams are doing well this year.
good luck

hey frankie rossi,
what is up with curry????
do not see curry appling for the ecac. are they to confident or to proud to lower themselves to see themselves in the ecac championship bowl game.

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 03, 2009, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: jkelly24 on November 03, 2009, 03:24:29 PM
hey hailmary15,
with what plymouth has gone through this year with injuries(5 starters, 2 in the backfield) i feel your pain.
but, both teams are doing well this year.
good luck

hey frankie rossi,
what is up with curry????
do not see curry appling for the ecac. are they to confident or to proud to lower themselves to see themselves in the ecac championship bowl game.

CB23

I don't believe they are eligible if they play in the NEFC championship game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jkelly24 on November 03, 2009, 03:47:08 PM
from past posting info, i thought the loser of the nefc championship game was a given for the ecac bowl game.
who are the front runners for the at-large bid for the ncaa playoffs??

thanx,

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 03, 2009, 04:07:01 PM
Quote from: jkelly24 on November 03, 2009, 03:47:08 PM
from past posting info, i thought the loser of the nefc championship game was a given for the ecac bowl game.
who are the front runners for the at-large bid for the ncaa playoffs??

thanx,

CB23

I don't think it's that game...it's the amount of games they play in the regular season.  I think that would put Curry at 11 Regular Season games.  I'm sure someone else can confirm, but I think that 11th game would disqualify you from ECAC contention.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 03, 2009, 04:15:02 PM
Here it is:

3. Please refer to NCAA Bylaw 17 (maximum allowable contests and annual exemptions) regarding
regular- season play and postseason championships.

NCAA BYLAW 17
(f) Non-NCAA Postseason Championships Participation. Practice and/or competition in non-NCAA (or non-NAIA) postseason championships (e.g., an invitational tournament scheduled after a conference championship) must be counted against the institution's declared playing-season limitation; except that practice and competition for one postseason championship in each non-NCAA championship sport used for sports sponsorship purposes pursuant to Bylaw 20.9.3.2.1, and practice and competition for the National Invitational Softball Championship in softball, practice and competition for the Intercollegiate Rowing Association (IRA) Women's Lightweight Rowing Championship in women's rowing, practice and competition for the National Invitational Volleyball Championship in volleyball, and practice and competition for the USA Gymnastics Collegiate National Championship in gymnastics are exempt from the institution's declared playing-season limitation in the sport. Competition in the American Women's College Hockey Alliance National Championship tournament is exempt from the institution's declared playing-season limitation; and  (Revised: 1/16/93, 1/11/94, 8/11/98, 4/26/01, 4/29/04 effective 8/1/04)

(g) Foreign Tours. Participation by a member institution on a certified foreign tour (see Bylaw 17.31) need not be included within the institution's declared playing-season limitation in the sport.


It's not the # of games, it's only 1 postseason championship unless its NCAA.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefan on November 03, 2009, 05:07:29 PM
It could be money wise, or a school policy. One school in the NEFC has that rule, ONLY league affiliated events and the NCAA is one of those but not ECAC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 03, 2009, 06:06:43 PM
No, as cited above, it's an NCAA rule. If you play 10 regular-season games, plus the NEFC title game, you cannot also play the ECAC game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jkelly24 on November 04, 2009, 10:57:09 AM
from what I am reading, curry took a chance last year by opting out of the bowl game, hoping for the at-large bid. would this be correct?

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 04, 2009, 11:15:53 AM
JKelley

No, even though I know what you're saying. Curry's thought process was most likely since they have been in the playoffs so many straight years, playing in the ECAC's last year would be a dissapointment and a burden to the players. It also makes financial sense for the school not to travel to play a upstate New York team as well.

As you saw from the earlier post, Springfield applied for the ECAC's, even though if they beat SJF this weekend they have a probable shot at making the playoffs as a Pool C bid.

It is understandable why Plymouth would apply for the ECAC's as they recruit against teams from the E8 and the costs are probaly much less for them to make a trip out of state compared to Curry.

Since Curry is going to be in the NEFC championship game, if they lose Plymouth will automatically get the NEFC bid for the ECAC's since Curry would not be able to play because of the 12th game NCAA rules.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 04, 2009, 11:38:26 AM
Quote from: jkelly24 on November 04, 2009, 10:57:09 AM
from what I am reading, curry took a chance last year by opting out of the bowl game, hoping for the at-large bid. would this be correct?

CB23

No -- teams can file for the ECAC and still take an NCAA bid if it's awarded.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 04, 2009, 02:59:58 PM
Least I was right with something.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 04, 2009, 03:19:26 PM
New Regional Rankings:

http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/2009/11/04/ncaa-regional-rankings-take-2/
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 05, 2009, 08:45:09 AM
As of right now the winner of the Maine vs Curry game is looking to be the 7th seed in the east. That means a match up against Alfred who will be the E8 undefeated winner. I'm assuming they move Mount Union over to the East bracket again. To bad Plymouth lost, they probaly had a shot at beating MT Union.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan81 on November 05, 2009, 08:56:01 PM
oh i totally agree, a strong(in all aspects of the game) plymouth st would have went in to the mount and won 112-3
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 06, 2009, 08:51:31 AM
A boring week of games with not much on the line. Only real stories I've seen is the chance for Mass to maybe upset Bridgewater to win for the first time in a long time. Also like to see if WNEC can close out the season with 5 straight wins, that would be an incredible improvement. It will also be interesting to see if Westfield closes out strong to have thier best season in 4-5 years. Also this shocker, Framingham has already guranteed itself at least 2 straight .500 seasons and with a win an actual winning season.

I would also like to see Maine do well against Fitchburg this weekend and go into the championship game strong.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 06, 2009, 02:26:28 PM
ECAC Bowl (North Subregion) Update (Final List Pending Late Declarations)

The following teams have applied for consideration for ECAC Championship games on 11/21/09 from the North Subregion of the ECAC:

Alfred (7-0, 3-0) * /
Maine Maritime (7-1, 5-1) *
Springfield (7-1, 3-1) *
Plymouth State (7-2, 5-1)
Union (6-2, 5-0) *
SUNY-Cortland (6-2, 6-2)
Hartwick (5-3, 1-3) +
St. John Fisher (4-3, 3-2) +
RPI (4-3, 2-3)
Gallaudet (5-4, 3-2) =
Framingham State (5-4, 3-3)
Brockport State (3-5, 2-5) X
Utica (3-5, 0-4) X /


Records are overall followed by respective league records.

* - Team could still win an NCAA berth.

+, / - Team plays against another team in the list in future game.

= - Team may play an 11th game prior to the ECACs, disallowing team from playing 12th game unless that game were an NCAA Playoff game.

X - Team currently does not have record that would allow it to be considered (>=.500 overall or in league).


Six teams will be picked from the list of teams that file for consideration.  The deadline for consideration without late fee is THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 5TH at 5pm EST. 

Teams will be selected by the ECAC Football Championships Committee on or about 11/15/09 (following selection of the NCAA Playoffs field).  Teams historically have been selected by win-loss record except when ties exist.  The #1 team hosts the #6 team, the #2 team hosts the #5 team and the #3 team hosts the #4 team, unless the higher-seeded team does not file to host the game.  All games begin at 12pm local time on 11/21/09.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 06, 2009, 02:52:34 PM
Picks for this week:

BSC over Mass Maritine
CGA over Framingham
PSU over SRU
Curry over UMD
Morcester St. over Westfield
Maine Maritine over Fitchburg
WNEC over Nichols
EC over MIT
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jkelly24 on November 06, 2009, 05:13:01 PM
hey nlng!!
looks like boxer 7806 and footballfan 81 were playing with there laptops under the sheets when sending those posts :-*

get real  :P


CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 07, 2009, 07:39:29 PM
Quote from: jkelly24 on November 06, 2009, 05:13:01 PM
hey nlng!!
looks like boxer 7806 and footballfan 81 were playing with there laptops under the sheets when sending those posts :-*

get real  :P


CB23

Considering all your posts say "hey nlng" to start, I think you should get your head out from under NLNG sheets. Get real buddy.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jkelly24 on November 07, 2009, 07:55:00 PM
hey boxer7806!!
should have check last 3 pages before making another one of your comments with foot in mouth  :o


great job by wnec this year 5-2 in the boyd division!!

CB23
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 07, 2009, 08:11:32 PM
Quote from: jkelly24 on November 07, 2009, 07:55:00 PM
hey boxer7806!!
should have check last 3 pages before making another one of your comments with foot in mouth  :o


great job by wnec this year 5-2 in the boyd division!!

CB23

What are you talking about? Can you refer to the posts? Because I have no idea what you are talking about. I'm serious though, I have no idea what your talking about. Is it the part about Plymouth having no shot at the ECAC's? Or you having no clue about what a Pool C bid is? If you could tell me that would be awesome.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 07, 2009, 08:15:18 PM
Honestly, Boxer, you are the only one that posts on this board regularly that is coherent.  So I'm not sure why you engage the others.   :P
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 08, 2009, 12:39:01 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 07, 2009, 08:15:18 PM
Honestly, Boxer, you are the only one that posts on this board regularly that is coherent.  So I'm not sure why you engage the others.   :P

Thank You.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jkelly24 on November 08, 2009, 06:09:48 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 07, 2009, 07:39:29 PM
Quote from: jkelly24 on November 06, 2009, 05:13:01 PM
hey nlng!!
looks like boxer 7806 and footballfan 81 were playing with there laptops under the sheets when sending those posts :-*

get real  :P


CB23

Considering all your posts say "hey nlng" to start, I think you should get your head out from under NLNG sheets. Get real buddy.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 09, 2009, 11:12:09 AM
Curry vs Maine this weekend for the NEFC championship. I for one think Maine is going to win. I know their are going to be some feisty Curry advocates who tend to disagree.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: colaboard9264 on November 09, 2009, 07:40:22 PM
my good sir. boxer while i aprreciate your opinion i feel like u still refuse to show curry the respect that they deserve. especially since curry is playing at home curry cannot lose at hmoe since there new stadium has been built in 2004. they have never lost to a conference opponent and have only lost twice at a home. altogether. and if the bridge water state d can hold them to 14 points scoring then curry behind that amazing defense led by scott driscoll. will not allow bridgewater to get comfortable in the running game. all and all the best running team in the conference against the best run stopping team in the conference lets see how the line handles those interior animals ushry and finch. and when middle is clogged goll and velez will not allow the play to get outside. i haev the upmost confidence that curry will when this game. 28-7
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: colaboard9264 on November 09, 2009, 07:42:07 PM
excuse me maine maritime*
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 09, 2009, 07:42:51 PM
Boy that shift key must be broken. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 09, 2009, 07:57:46 PM
What the **** was that?????????????? ;D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3playsforpassion on November 09, 2009, 08:53:53 PM
On a side note, some very sad news.  Plymouth State's former Quarterback, John DeMarco, lost his mother last week in a tragic car accident.  Our thoughts and prayers go out to John and his family at this very difficult time.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: colaboard9264 on November 09, 2009, 09:43:55 PM
Time for a new Joke Pg04 it was good the first six times you used it.......
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 09, 2009, 09:46:57 PM
Technically it was only the 2nd time.. but I digress. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: colaboard9264 on November 09, 2009, 09:49:11 PM
still played out..... now this is a football message board lets talk about football and the players
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 09, 2009, 09:52:13 PM
Agreed.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 09, 2009, 10:07:16 PM
Will the The Curry Colonels aka Dem Spicy Boyz aka The Purveyors of the Purple Drank be back in the dance this year? You will always have Mr. Groberson's support.


also...

PLYMOUTH STATE SEX PANTHERS
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe235%2Faaronsproxy%2FIMG_0421.jpg&hash=b9bedd9b59015cb79c8d5f2e9bc9b0fd51c1c491)
ECAC BOUND
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 10, 2009, 08:56:13 AM
Well in any case the game will be interesting. Take a look at Maine's history they are a notorious late starting team even losing to MIT and Becker last year to start the year. They averaged 4.5 yds a rush but I think the underlying problem for them in the Bridgewater game was the 4 fumbles, and losing 2 of them. But as of late the Maine attack has been on fire, and they have shown the threat to throw the ball as well, which has eluded them at times.

One of your big attack statements for Curry is the Inner D line / LB play of Curry. Most teams are taking away Bower in the middle by stuffing those lanes with thier DT and ILB. But as a I stated earlier Bouroussa and Angell are becoming more of a focal point and moving the option laterally for HUGE numbers. This essentially takes out the core players of Driscoll and your 2 D tackles who will be responsible for the fullback in your scenario.

I've seen Maine play and they also do a great job at running counters and outside lead plays with bower as the lead blocker which have been shredding teams apart this year. If you just focus on the triple option, you will get burn because this team has shown they can do a variety of things out of their option formation.

I give Curry alll the respect in the world. The last 5 years they have been the top dog in the NEFC and rose the conference to a new level of respect in the East. Plymouth St could also be given some credit for this as well, BUT Curry has made us a noticable conference to talk about. I believe Curry is down this year, and from the beginning I thought Maine was on the up. I'm just trying to stick with my guns from the beginning of the year. If Curry wins great, because they will represent the conference well in the playoffs as usual.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on November 10, 2009, 12:11:15 PM
Curry will win this game hands down.  MM may try to mix it up by throwing the ball a little and using a more conventional offensive attack at times, but Curry will be ready for that.  I'm all for parity and a new team to take the reigns but I just don't see it happening this year.  Curry 28-10
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 10, 2009, 12:41:02 PM
I respect that. I think parity has hit the conference just not at the very top as of yet. Curry got all it could handle from some unexpected teams this year including Westfield which they only snuck by 7-6. Perfect examples of parity is WNEC in the Boyd with a 5-2 record in the division and Framingham on the Bogan with two .500 seasons. Those two teams were the bottom or around the bottom of the leauge for a while.

Umass D once a power is now 0-10 and even Mass Martime is starting to turn its program around while Worcester St is in the stretch of a rebuilding year. Heck Maine use to be one of the worst teams in New England in the early 2000's. That is what good coaching and recruiting will do for you.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jkelly24 on November 10, 2009, 07:12:46 PM
Quote from: Groseph G. Groberson III on November 09, 2009, 10:07:16 PM
Will the The Curry Colonels aka Dem Spicy Boyz aka The Purveyors of the Purple Drank be back in the dance this year? You will always have Mr. Groberson's support.


also...

PLYMOUTH STATE SEX PANTHERS
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ECAC BOUND

plymouth is ecac bound?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 10, 2009, 11:48:05 PM
If Curry wins they are most likely ECAC bound.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 11, 2009, 02:09:59 PM
Final Regional Rankings that we'll get to see publicly are now available:

http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/

Springfield does not fall far and remains above Union and Maine Maritime, which both stay at #10 and #9 respectively.  Interesting set of rankings.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 11, 2009, 02:41:08 PM
That is interesting since Pat has stated that most of the regional rankings have been based off of W-L record then SOS. Still has no effect on Maine or Curry. If Either team wins they will not play MUC in the first round becuase of the 500 mile rule.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 11, 2009, 04:26:05 PM
Quote from: jkelly24 on November 10, 2009, 07:12:46 PM
Quote from: Groseph G. Groberson III on November 09, 2009, 10:07:16 PM
Will the The Curry Colonels aka Dem Spicy Boyz aka The Purveyors of the Purple Drank be back in the dance this year? You will always have Mr. Groberson's support.


also...

PLYMOUTH STATE SEX PANTHERS
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe235%2Faaronsproxy%2FIMG_0421.jpg&hash=b9bedd9b59015cb79c8d5f2e9bc9b0fd51c1c491)
ECAC BOUND

plymouth is ecac bound?

Just saying they are 8-2 and not in the running for a Pool C so ECAC is very likely. Plus they are made with bits of real panther, so you know they're good.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 12, 2009, 12:09:39 AM
ECAC Bowl (North Subregion) Update (Final List with Updated Records)

The following teams have applied for consideration for ECAC Championship games on 11/21/09 from the North Subregion of the ECAC:

Maine Maritime (8-1, 6-1) *
Alfred (7-1, 3-1) * /
Plymouth State (8-2, 6-1)
Union (7-2, 6-0) *
SUNY-Cortland (7-2, 7-2)
Springfield (7-2, 3-2) *
St. John Fisher (5-3, 3-1) +
Hartwick (5-3, 1-3) +
Gallaudet (6-4, 4-2)
---------------------------
RPI (4-4, 2-4)
Framingham State (5-5, 3-4)
Utica (4-5, 0-4) X /
Brockport State (3-6, 2-6) X

Records are overall followed by respective league records.  Line represents projected cut based on current NCAA Playoff berths, although line could be one or two levels too high (thus allowing one or two four-loss teams into the ECAC Bowls if two teams above line enter NCAA Playoffs).

* - Team could still win an NCAA berth.

+, / - Team plays against another team in the list in future game.

X - Team currently does not have record that would allow it to be considered (>=.500 overall or in league).


Six teams will be picked from the list of teams that file for consideration.  The deadline for consideration without late fee was THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 5TH at 5pm EST.  

Teams will be selected by the ECAC Football Championships Committee on or about 11/15/09 (following selection of the NCAA Playoffs field).  Teams historically have been selected by win-loss record except when ties exist.  The #1 team hosts the #6 team, the #2 team hosts the #5 team and the #3 team hosts the #4 team, unless the higher-seeded team does not file to host the game.  All games begin at 12pm local time on 11/21/09.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 12, 2009, 12:32:14 PM
Plymouth is a shoe in for an ECAC game as well as Maine Maritime with a loss. Should be interesting because it almost looks like a lock for Plymouth to play a non NEFC team.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on November 13, 2009, 10:21:31 AM
Quote from: Groseph G. Groberson III on November 11, 2009, 04:26:05 PM
Quote from: jkelly24 on November 10, 2009, 07:12:46 PM
Quote from: Groseph G. Groberson III on November 09, 2009, 10:07:16 PM
Will the The Curry Colonels aka Dem Spicy Boyz aka The Purveyors of the Purple Drank be back in the dance this year? You will always have Mr. Groberson's support.


also...

PLYMOUTH STATE SEX PANTHERS
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe235%2Faaronsproxy%2FIMG_0421.jpg&hash=b9bedd9b59015cb79c8d5f2e9bc9b0fd51c1c491)
ECAC BOUND



plymouth is ecac bound?

Just saying they are 8-2 and not in the running for a Pool C so ECAC is very likely. Plus they are made with bits of real panther, so you know they're good.

Made with real bits of panther........this is Hilarious.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 13, 2009, 11:07:35 AM
Classic...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 13, 2009, 06:23:20 PM
I think Curry will be the NEFC champs again this year.  I think it will be a good game, but I think that Curry has a better Offense.  May the best team win and represent the NEFC in the playoffs.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 14, 2009, 09:18:20 AM
I disagree, it's a very good game, but I think Donkey Kong is the best game ever.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 63Center on November 14, 2009, 02:29:16 PM
Congrats to MEM for their last second victory over Curry for the NEFC championship (48-42).
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 14, 2009, 05:17:50 PM
I was saying it all along, I thought Maine was going to beat Curry. I want the Curry posters to come on here an acknowledge how easy it is to stop the Triple Option now.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 14, 2009, 09:19:20 PM
Are you admitting that you are #81 Alex Coulombe?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 14, 2009, 09:48:58 PM
We don't need another playing on here talking. But I would still like to see all these fans who said Curry's D was the best its ever been come on here and explain what happen.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 14, 2009, 09:53:45 PM
Quote from: footballfan81 on November 14, 2009, 09:15:33 PM
all you curry fans that guarenteed a win, all you sex panther fans out there. Who gets the last laugh. Just a simple a b gap to stop the option right. That curry d is unstopable right? 48 points just shows how weak the other dicision really is. We now know who the best team in the conference is

and yes folks it felt great catching that hailmary in the last second of the game...

Congrats, and I hope you enjoy you're 15 minutes of fame in the NCAA's...

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HailMary15 on November 14, 2009, 11:24:57 PM
Congrats to Maritime on pulling out a great last second win. I'm sure the experience of last years championship game helped them out coming into this game. I wish I could have made it down to see it cause it sounds like I missed a great game. Good luck representing the NEFC in the NCAA tourny.

Do you think curry gets an at large bid? I'm sure their recent success in the first round will help their cause.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 14, 2009, 11:29:35 PM
If a team with two regional losses makes the playoffs, it won't be Curry.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 14, 2009, 11:34:40 PM
Lets just hope Maine represents the conference well.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 14, 2009, 11:37:46 PM
Not likely if they're at Mary Hardin-Baylor, as predicted here:

http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/2009/11/14/final-2009-playoff-projection/
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 12:46:00 AM
Quote from: pg04 on November 14, 2009, 11:37:46 PM
Not likely if they're at Mary Hardin-Baylor, as predicted here:

http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/2009/11/14/final-2009-playoff-projection/

I think we all know that. Just to think a team made up entirely of Maine players going to Texas to play a perennial powerhouse where football is basically religion is just mind boggling to me. If Curry won, they would of had a much more favorable match up, which is understandable based on the NCAA 500 mile rule. But it is almost a slap to the kids from Maine, who beat the king of the conference and now have to fly half way across the country to play a team that is a viable option to make the Stagg Bowl every year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 15, 2009, 12:47:16 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 12:46:00 AM
Quote from: pg04 on November 14, 2009, 11:37:46 PM
Not likely if they're at Mary Hardin-Baylor, as predicted here:

http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/2009/11/14/final-2009-playoff-projection/

I think we all know that. Just to think a team made up entirely of Maine players going to Texas to play a perennial powerhouse where football is basically religion is just mind boggling to me. If Curry won, they would of had a much more favorable match up, which is understandable based on the NCAA 500 mile rule. But it is almost a slap to the kids from Maine, who beat the king of the conference and now have to fly half way across the country to play a team that is a viable option to make the Stagg Bowl every year.

Well remember the committee may not do this.  It's just a projection, and I think there's a good chance, at least in my mind that D3football will be incorrect with this projection.

(But their track record is pretty good)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 15, 2009, 12:59:14 AM
The only other option is driving to Montclair. Sure, that would be better from the Maine Maritime perspective but I'm not sure why Maine Maritime should be given some sort of preferential treatment by the committee.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 15, 2009, 01:02:09 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 15, 2009, 12:59:14 AM
The only other option is driving to Montclair. Sure, that would be better from the Maine Maritime perspective but I'm not sure why Maine Maritime should be given some sort of preferential treatment by the committee.

Maybe, but then I think pitting Mount Union and MHB (theoretically) in the 2nd round seems almost unbelieveable.  I actually think MHB deserves better than getting MUC in the 2nd round... But I suppose it wouldn't be looked at that way. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 15, 2009, 01:08:40 AM
Yeah, honestly, UMHB's regional ranking doesn't suggest it should be protected, either.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 15, 2009, 01:11:03 AM
I suppose we'll just wait.  I actually think if Maine went to Montclair they'd  have a chance at winning. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on November 15, 2009, 02:43:14 AM
Quote from: HailMary15 on November 14, 2009, 11:24:57 PM
Congrats to Maritime on pulling out a great last second win. I'm sure the experience of last years championship game helped them out coming into this game. I wish I could have made it down to see it cause it sounds like I missed a great game. Good luck representing the NEFC in the NCAA tourny.

Do you think curry gets an at large bid? I'm sure their recent success in the first round will help their cause.


Congrats to ME Maritime for breaking through......I'll be rooting for a military school to make a good showing.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 15, 2009, 09:41:30 AM
Maybe dlip should read the info page but does not feel like it as of right now. Isn't it more than 500 miles from Maine to Texas? Isn't their a mileage stipulation regarding the first round, hence the NEFC team getting a higher seed than the LL team and the pool C team (possibly JHU)?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 15, 2009, 09:43:23 AM
My bracket is explained on the projection page. Worth reading it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 15, 2009, 09:49:05 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 15, 2009, 09:43:23 AM
My bracket is explained on the projection page. Worth reading it.

Will check it out  :)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3playsforpassion on November 15, 2009, 09:50:52 AM
Congratulations to Maine Maritime and good luck in the playoffs.  I didn't get to see the game, but I saw the game last year, and Maine has a great team and a great program - represent the league well in the playoffs!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 10:09:20 AM
I with you PG, I think Maine would have a decent shot at beating Montclair. It is not that Maine deserves any preferential treatment, but we are sending them to play a powerhouse in the d3 football world. With the east being down, the NEFC is closer competition wise then they ever have been to making successful showings in the playoffs (Even if it is just winning the first round game).

It is almost a slap in the face to Maine, who beat a team that has won a playoff game the past two years, and instead of playing the winner of the NJAC or E8, they have to play MHB.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 15, 2009, 10:19:24 AM
Why is it a slap in the face?

Teams have to be seeded somewhere. 

In this scenario that the D3 staff has MHB would be playing MUC in the 2nd round, if anything that's a slap in the face...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 15, 2009, 10:59:30 AM
Quote from: Upstate on November 15, 2009, 10:19:24 AM
Why is it a slap in the face?

Teams have to be seeded somewhere. 

In this scenario that the D3 staff has MHB would be playing MUC in the 2nd round, if anything that's a slap in the face...

Good point upstate.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 11:12:38 AM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 15, 2009, 10:59:30 AM
Quote from: Upstate on November 15, 2009, 10:19:24 AM
Why is it a slap in the face?

Teams have to be seeded somewhere. 

In this scenario that the D3 staff has MHB would be playing MUC in the 2nd round, if anything that's a slap in the face...

Good point upstate.

I totally agree on all fronts. I just feel these two teams are getting the shaft in whole. Since both would need flights for most of their games, I feel like committee is saying;

1. Since we have two teams, Maine and MHB, that will need to fly to play the majority of their games lets save money and fly Maine to MHB, have them lose and not risk the chance of paying for an additional flight for Round 2.

2. Lets have MHB be the 4 seed, fly them to Alliance, have them eliminated by Mount, so we don't have to fly them anywhere after Round 2.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 15, 2009, 11:19:08 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 11:12:38 AM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 15, 2009, 10:59:30 AM
Quote from: Upstate on November 15, 2009, 10:19:24 AM
Why is it a slap in the face?

Teams have to be seeded somewhere. 

In this scenario that the D3 staff has MHB would be playing MUC in the 2nd round, if anything that's a slap in the face...

Good point upstate.

I totally agree on all fronts. I just feel these two teams are getting the shaft in whole. Since both would need flights for most of their games, I feel like committee is saying;

1. Since we have two teams, Maine and MHB, that will need to fly to play the majority of their games lets save money and fly Maine to MHB, have them lose and not risk the chance of paying for an additional flight for Round 2.

2. Lets have MHB be the 4 seed, fly them to Alliance, have them eliminated by Mount, so we don't have to fly them anywhere after Round 2.

Enough with the flying conversation.  Most d3 kids will think it's totally cool to actually have to fly to a game.  How many teams ever get the chance to do that before the final 8 final 4?  It's ALMOST like real football that way.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 15, 2009, 11:30:11 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 11:23:44 AM
Quote from: Terd Fergusen on November 15, 2009, 11:19:08 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 11:12:38 AM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 15, 2009, 10:59:30 AM
Quote from: Upstate on November 15, 2009, 10:19:24 AM
Why is it a slap in the face?

Teams have to be seeded somewhere.  

In this scenario that the D3 staff has MHB would be playing MUC in the 2nd round, if anything that's a slap in the face...

Good point upstate.

I totally agree on all fronts. I just feel these two teams are getting the shaft in whole. Since both would need flights for most of their games, I feel like committee is saying;

1. Since we have two teams, Maine and MHB, that will need to fly to play the majority of their games lets save money and fly Maine to MHB, have them lose and not risk the chance of paying for an additional flight for Round 2.

2. Lets have MHB be the 4 seed, fly them to Alliance, have them eliminated by Mount, so we don't have to fly them anywhere after Round 2.

Enough with the flying conversation.  Most d3 kids will think it's totally cool to actually have to fly to a game.  How many teams ever get the chance to do that before the final 8 final 4?  It's ALMOST like real football that way.

Stop it. You think New Mexico St thought it was cool to fly to the Horseshoe and play Ohio St and lose 45-0.

New Mexico St. doesn't play d3 football in the worst conference in the country.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pumkinattack on November 15, 2009, 11:32:35 AM
Eh, maybe 2nd worst with the new ECFC. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 15, 2009, 11:33:48 AM
Quote from: pumkinattack on November 15, 2009, 11:32:35 AM
Eh, maybe 2nd worst with the new ECFC. 

True dat.  You get my drift. 


Stop bitching and be happy that you have a chance for a team OTHER than Curry to give the conference some respect, no matter who they play or where they travel!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 11:36:27 AM
Quote from: pumkinattack on November 15, 2009, 11:32:35 AM
Eh, maybe 2nd worst with the new ECFC.  

Thanks pumkin. But at least we have two playoff wins to our credit both coming in the last two years. But by throwing in the whole "NEFC is the worst conference in the country" crap is besides the point. If it was your team going to MHB, I don't think you would be all giddy in support. If Maine had to play Montcliar, most would agree they would have a shot at beating the NJAC champ. That is something we could not say 3 years ago.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 15, 2009, 11:41:06 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 11:36:27 AM
Quote from: pumkinattack on November 15, 2009, 11:32:35 AM
Eh, maybe 2nd worst with the new ECFC.  

Thanks pumkin. But at least we have two playoff wins to our credit both coming in the last two years. But by throwing in the whole "NEFC is the worst conference in the country" crap is besides the point. If it was your team going to MHB, I don't think you would be all giddy in support. If Maine had to play Montcliar, most would agree they would have a shot at beating the NJAC champ. That is something we could not say 3 years ago.

1.  The brackets on this site are a PROJECTION!!!  Chances are, it won't even happen.
2.  No matter what the choices end up being, the NEFC has a new team to represent it!  Maybe they will show something.  You should be happy for that.
3.  I saw somewhere where you said '4 hour flights of misery'.  The team is in East BumF--- Maine!  No matter where they play, they are going to have a long travel.  Stop being a ****ing crybaby.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 11:49:10 AM
Quote from: Terd Fergusen on November 15, 2009, 11:41:06 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 11:36:27 AM
Quote from: pumkinattack on November 15, 2009, 11:32:35 AM
Eh, maybe 2nd worst with the new ECFC. 

Thanks pumkin. But at least we have two playoff wins to our credit both coming in the last two years. But by throwing in the whole "NEFC is the worst conference in the country" crap is besides the point. If it was your team going to MHB, I don't think you would be all giddy in support. If Maine had to play Montcliar, most would agree they would have a shot at beating the NJAC champ. That is something we could not say 3 years ago.

1.  The brackets on this site are a PROJECTION!!!  Chances are, it won't even happen.
2.  No matter what the choices end up being, the NEFC has a new team to represent it!  Maybe they will show something.  You should be happy for that.
3.  I saw somewhere where you said '4 hour flights of misery'.  The team is in East BumF--- Maine!  No matter where they play, they are going to have a long travel.  Stop being a ****ing crybaby.

1. Listen, I know its projections, but all of you admit that they are usually dead on.
2. I was the one who posted saying Maine was better then Curry all along, and you were crying "How could someone other then Curry in the NEFC be ahead of Union in the Regional rankings". I am happy for them and said they have a chance at representing the conference well and would be a good matchup with most teams in the east.
3. The "4 hour flights of misery" was referring to Maine going to play MHB at their place, which I don't think you would want your team to do. I addressed the travel issue in an earlier post and never cried about it.
4. We all know you do not like the conference and give it no respect. So stop bashing at every chance and coming on with the name calling. Grow up.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 15, 2009, 11:51:54 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 11:49:10 AM
Quote from: Terd Fergusen on November 15, 2009, 11:41:06 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 11:36:27 AM
Quote from: pumkinattack on November 15, 2009, 11:32:35 AM
Eh, maybe 2nd worst with the new ECFC. 

Thanks pumkin. But at least we have two playoff wins to our credit both coming in the last two years. But by throwing in the whole "NEFC is the worst conference in the country" crap is besides the point. If it was your team going to MHB, I don't think you would be all giddy in support. If Maine had to play Montcliar, most would agree they would have a shot at beating the NJAC champ. That is something we could not say 3 years ago.

1.  The brackets on this site are a PROJECTION!!!  Chances are, it won't even happen.
2.  No matter what the choices end up being, the NEFC has a new team to represent it!  Maybe they will show something.  You should be happy for that.
3.  I saw somewhere where you said '4 hour flights of misery'.  The team is in East BumF--- Maine!  No matter where they play, they are going to have a long travel.  Stop being a ****ing crybaby.

1. Listen, I know its projections, but all of you admit that they are usually dead on.
2. I was the one who posted saying Maine was better then Curry all along, and you were crying "How could someone other then Curry in the NEFC be ahead of Union in the Regional rankings". I am happy for them and said they have a chance at representing the conference well and would be a good matchup with most teams in the east.
3. The "4 hour flights of misery" was referring to Maine going to play MHB at their place, which I don't think you would want your team to do. I addressed the travel issue in an earlier post and never cried about it.
4. We all know you do not like the conference and give it no respect. So stop bashing at every chance and coming on with the name calling. Grow up.

I'm bashing you and your crying like a baby.  You can't pick who you want to play for a better matchup in the playoffs.  Montclair is an 8.5 hour drive.  That will be a good 2 hours of flying either way wouldn't it?  So OBVIOUSLY, it's not the travel you're whining about.  It's the potential of playing a better team and getting further embarrassed.  It's the playoffs.  Teams like Maine Maritime should be happy to be there.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 12:03:13 PM
Your a joke if you think your bashing me. Your right I don't want Maine to go MHB and get destroyed. But almost every team in the East would go to MHB and get beat up pretty good. Do you disagree with that? Would I rather have Maine travel to Montclair because it makes more sense then a trip to MHB? The answer is yes. I am happy Maine is in the playoffs but I don't think they will get embarassed by most teams in the east like you think. Your the same guy who came on here and said Curry was going to win after I stated Maine was going to.

I'm not on here to fight with you, I'm just stating It makes more sense for Maine to go to Montclair. Going to MHB would be bad for the conference and East in general. IF MHB played any other East team, they would most likely beat all of them, and do it convincingly. If you want to call that "crying" and want to in your terms "bash" me on that then go ahead. But if you just want to come on here and bash the conference do it somewhere else.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pumkinattack on November 15, 2009, 12:06:01 PM
I gotta agree with Lew here.  It is pretty apparent that it's about the opponent and not the travel.  I would've loved to fly to Texas for a playoff game against a top team.  Frankly, the NEFC doesn't represent well in OOC.  OOC:

0-3 vs. E8 (incl bottom two teams)
0-1 vs. MAC (losing record Widener)
0-5 vs. the LL (winless in league WPI and losing conference record RPI)
0-0 vs. NJAC

There's no evidence that the NEFC should get any preferential treatment vis-a-vis reps from the E8/NJAC/MAC/LL

One Curry win vs. IC (don't bother bringing up the Hartwick 07 game - that team was suspect and half the people thought Curry would win that one) is great, but it doesn't change the overall perception and reality that the NEFC rep should be playing the #1 seed (MUC) and anything else is an unfair advantage to the rest of the field's conference reps.  

By psyched that it's a new team, your team, and that they get to potentially play a unique and excellent team in a different part of the country.  That's how I felt about Hobart going to MCU last year.  
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 15, 2009, 12:07:10 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 12:03:13 PM
Your a joke if you think your bashing me. Your right I don't want Maine to go MHB and get destroyed. But almost every team in the East would go to MHB and get beat up pretty good. Do you disagree with that? Would I rather have Maine travel to Montclair because it makes more sense then a trip to MHB? The answer is yes. I am happy Maine is in the playoffs but I don't think they will get embarassed by most teams in the east like you think. Your the same guy who came on here and said Curry was going to win after I stated Maine was going to.

I'm not on here to fight with you, I'm just stating It makes more sense for Maine to go to Montclair. Going to MHB would be bad for the conference and East in general. IF MHB played any other East team, they would most likely beat all of them, and do it convincingly. If you want to call that "crying" and want to in your terms "bash" me on that then go ahead. But if you just want to come on here and bash the conference do it somewhere else.

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'Why can't we just play Montclair?  Then we would only lose by 5 touchdowns and not 7!!!'
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 15, 2009, 12:17:42 PM
Quote from: Terd Fergusen on November 15, 2009, 11:30:11 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 11:23:44 AM
Quote from: Terd Fergusen on November 15, 2009, 11:19:08 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 11:12:38 AM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 15, 2009, 10:59:30 AM
Quote from: Upstate on November 15, 2009, 10:19:24 AM
Why is it a slap in the face?

Teams have to be seeded somewhere.  

In this scenario that the D3 staff has MHB would be playing MUC in the 2nd round, if anything that's a slap in the face...

Good point upstate.

I totally agree on all fronts. I just feel these two teams are getting the shaft in whole. Since both would need flights for most of their games, I feel like committee is saying;

1. Since we have two teams, Maine and MHB, that will need to fly to play the majority of their games lets save money and fly Maine to MHB, have them lose and not risk the chance of paying for an additional flight for Round 2.

2. Lets have MHB be the 4 seed, fly them to Alliance, have them eliminated by Mount, so we don't have to fly them anywhere after Round 2.

Enough with the flying conversation.  Most d3 kids will think it's totally cool to actually have to fly to a game.  How many teams ever get the chance to do that before the final 8 final 4?  It's ALMOST like real football that way.

Stop it. You think New Mexico St thought it was cool to fly to the Horseshoe and play Ohio St and lose 45-0.

New Mexico St. doesn't play d3 football in the worst conference in the country.

That and Maine isn't getting a 6 figure check for their troubles...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 12:20:28 PM
Its not about the travel, Maine has to sleep overnight for most games, but I will take it for what it is worth and if they play MHB then they do and wish them the best of luck. Your right about the Hobart playing MUC comparison. I would just like to see the conference do well. I know the OOC doesn't point for Maine to get any preferential treatment in anyway. If Curry had beat Maine, then they would have been playing most likely Montclair in what would of been a good game. Their would have been no chance for them playing MHB. That is why I think it sucks Maine has to play MHB in these current projections.

This got all out of hand anyways and I was just posting with agreement that I think it sucks for Maine and MHB because MHB gets screwed playing MUC in the second round if things shake out the way they do. I just wish Lew would send me a box of tissues now. How bout it?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 15, 2009, 12:21:59 PM
Quote from: Terd Fergusen on November 15, 2009, 12:07:10 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 12:03:13 PM
Your a joke if you think your bashing me. Your right I don't want Maine to go MHB and get destroyed. But almost every team in the East would go to MHB and get beat up pretty good. Do you disagree with that? Would I rather have Maine travel to Montclair because it makes more sense then a trip to MHB? The answer is yes. I am happy Maine is in the playoffs but I don't think they will get embarassed by most teams in the east like you think. Your the same guy who came on here and said Curry was going to win after I stated Maine was going to.

I'm not on here to fight with you, I'm just stating It makes more sense for Maine to go to Montclair. Going to MHB would be bad for the conference and East in general. IF MHB played any other East team, they would most likely beat all of them, and do it convincingly. If you want to call that "crying" and want to in your terms "bash" me on that then go ahead. But if you just want to come on here and bash the conference do it somewhere else.

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'Why can't we just play Montclair?  Then we would only lose by 5 touchdowns and not 7!!!'


Honestly I think Maine would have a chance with Montclair... 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 15, 2009, 12:24:42 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 12:20:28 PM
Its not about the travel, Maine has to sleep overnight for most games, but I will take it for what it is worth and if they play MHB then they do and wish them the best of luck. Your right about the Hobart playing MUC comparison. I would just like to see the conference do well. I know the OOC doesn't point for Maine to get any preferential treatment in anyway. If Curry had beat Maine, then they would have been playing most likely Montclair in what would of been a good game. Their would have been no chance for them playing MHB. That is why I think it sucks Maine has to play MHB in these current projections.

This got all out of hand anyways and I was just posting with agreement that I think it sucks for Maine and MHB because MHB gets screwed playing MUC in the second round if things shake out the way they do. I just wish Lew would send me a box of tissues now. How bout it?

I'm on my way...Be there in 16-18 hours.

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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 12:27:24 PM
Quote from: Terd Fergusen on November 15, 2009, 12:24:42 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 12:20:28 PM
Its not about the travel, Maine has to sleep overnight for most games, but I will take it for what it is worth and if they play MHB then they do and wish them the best of luck. Your right about the Hobart playing MUC comparison. I would just like to see the conference do well. I know the OOC doesn't point for Maine to get any preferential treatment in anyway. If Curry had beat Maine, then they would have been playing most likely Montclair in what would of been a good game. Their would have been no chance for them playing MHB. That is why I think it sucks Maine has to play MHB in these current projections.

This got all out of hand anyways and I was just posting with agreement that I think it sucks for Maine and MHB because MHB gets screwed playing MUC in the second round if things shake out the way they do. I just wish Lew would send me a box of tissues now. How bout it?

I'm on my way...Be there in 16-18 hours.

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If you fly it will be much faster, more like 3-4 hours.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 15, 2009, 12:30:03 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 12:27:24 PM
Quote from: Terd Fergusen on November 15, 2009, 12:24:42 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 12:20:28 PM
Its not about the travel, Maine has to sleep overnight for most games, but I will take it for what it is worth and if they play MHB then they do and wish them the best of luck. Your right about the Hobart playing MUC comparison. I would just like to see the conference do well. I know the OOC doesn't point for Maine to get any preferential treatment in anyway. If Curry had beat Maine, then they would have been playing most likely Montclair in what would of been a good game. Their would have been no chance for them playing MHB. That is why I think it sucks Maine has to play MHB in these current projections.

This got all out of hand anyways and I was just posting with agreement that I think it sucks for Maine and MHB because MHB gets screwed playing MUC in the second round if things shake out the way they do. I just wish Lew would send me a box of tissues now. How bout it?

I'm on my way...Be there in 16-18 hours.

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If you fly it will be much faster, more like 3-4 hours.

Goodness that would be miserable!  :-)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 15, 2009, 02:01:16 PM
Both make decent points here. Terd Dogg is spot on regarding that flying to a game would be ****ing awesome for any D3 football player. There is no question, even if Maine has to go down to Texas, that those kids would be ****ing ecstatic and pumped as hell to play some NCAA tourney ball in a state like Texas. On the other hand of course Maine matches up better with Montclair, **** they would match up better against any East Region team this year than against MHB. So dlip can understand Boxers possible dismay over his league rep heading down to Texas. Honestly, for each of the Eastern teams that will represent our region in the tourney this is a great opportunity for them. The players deserve this chance and worked very ****ing hard for it. For us East region fans, to be honest, we really have no realistic hopes regarding one of our teams making any noise in the next few weeks!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 15, 2009, 03:18:14 PM
And after all the bitching, you're going to Montclair anyway.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 04:06:43 PM
Maybe they heard me bitching all the way from here. Lets hope they get beat by 5 TD's so you can crying about how the NEFC sucks so bad.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 15, 2009, 04:08:40 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 04:06:43 PM
Maybe they heard me bitching all the way from here. Lets hope they get beat by 5 TD's so you can crying about how the NEFC sucks so bad.

It's not my fault the league sucks dude.  Don't take it out on me. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 04:20:40 PM
Quote from: Terd Fergusen on November 15, 2009, 04:08:40 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 04:06:43 PM
Maybe they heard me bitching all the way from here. Lets hope they get beat by 5 TD's so you can crying about how the NEFC sucks so bad.

It's not my fault the league sucks dude.  Don't take it out on me. 

I didn't take anything out on you. But you do bash the conference all the time saying how bad it sucks, but truth is, the conference is taking steps every year to be better.

I know our OOC record was terrible, but only Curry was a winning team that stepped out and tried to play anyone. I think we need are other top teams to do so. We need Maine to play Husson. We need Plymouth to drop St. A's and play a team from New York, whether it a SUNY school or an E8 team. Bridgewater to step up and play a team from the NJAC, like Rowan which they did two years ago. It is tough to gain credibility with teams such as 1-9 Worcester, 0-10 Umass Dartmouth, 4-6 Endicott, 4-6 Salve, 4-5 CGA representing our conference as the only schools. If all teams played at least one OOC game, it would make the world of difference, and we could base the conference against other better if all our top teams played at least one game outside the conference.

Curry shouldn't schedule Bentley and Plymouth play St. A's. They need to schedule another team from around the east. If all the teams played at least one team for a home and home outside the conference, it would help them tremendously.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 15, 2009, 04:33:15 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 04:20:40 PM
Quote from: Terd Fergusen on November 15, 2009, 04:08:40 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 04:06:43 PM
Maybe they heard me bitching all the way from here. Lets hope they get beat by 5 TD's so you can crying about how the NEFC sucks so bad.

It's not my fault the league sucks dude.  Don't take it out on me. 

I didn't take anything out on you. But you do bash the conference all the time saying how bad it sucks, but truth is, the conference is taking steps every year to be better.

I know our OOC record was terrible, but only Curry was a winning team that stepped out and tried to play anyone. I think we need are other top teams to do so. We need Maine to play Husson. We need Plymouth to drop St. A's and play a team from New York, whether it a SUNY school or an E8 team. Bridgewater to step up and play a team from the NJAC, like Rowan which they did two years ago. It is tough to gain credibility with teams such as 1-9 Worcester, 0-10 Umass Dartmouth, 4-6 Endicott, 4-6 Salve, 4-5 CGA representing our conference as the only schools. If all teams played at least one OOC game, it would make the world of difference, and we could base the conference against other better if all our top teams played at least one game outside the conference.

Curry shouldn't schedule Bentley and Plymouth play St. A's. They need to schedule another team from around the east. If all the teams played at least one team for a home and home outside the conference, it would help them tremendously.

Agreed.  Well said.  We have the same issues with RPI's OOC scheduling.  Some teams need to sack up in order to get better.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 05:07:22 PM
I would like to see RPI play Plymouth St or say Bridgewater St. Teams that have established themselves with credibility in the conference. Every year its the same thing with Endicott, saying this is their year to break out, but year after year they fall apart. It is time for another team from the NEFC to play RPI.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 15, 2009, 05:14:18 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 05:07:22 PM
I would like to see RPI play Plymouth St or say Bridgewater St. Teams that have established themselves with credibility in the conference. Every year its the same thing with Endicott, saying this is their year to break out, but year after year they fall apart. It is time for another team from the NEFC to play RPI.

I can see that and wouldn't mind it, but i'd also like to see RPI schedule a Cortland/Ithaca/Alfred/Fisher etc.  Instead I think the big OOC game next year is against perennial doormat Lewis and Clark(OR)...Awesome.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 15, 2009, 05:33:41 PM
I'm not sure of any of the OOC games for the NEFC next year. I believe the only game that I know of is Curry vs Widener.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pumkinattack on November 15, 2009, 06:10:01 PM
I don't think it's in RPI's interest to add more NEFC games. 

RPI should be trying to have Ms Jackson make it rain on Carnegie Mellon (engineering complement) to pry them off Hobart's schedule.  A nice midlevel game against a solid program and excellent academic institution. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on November 15, 2009, 06:15:03 PM
Quote from: pumkinattack on November 15, 2009, 06:10:01 PM
I don't think it's in RPI's interest to add more NEFC games. 

RPI should be trying to have Ms Jackson make it rain on Carnegie Mellon (engineering complement) to pry them off Hobart's schedule.  A nice midlevel game against a solid program and excellent academic institution. 

And, given that, perhaps Hobart could pick up Alfred again? At last word, the Saxons have only eight games scheduled for 2010. And the Statesmen have owned Alfred the last decade.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pumkinattack on November 15, 2009, 06:46:02 PM
You're too slow.  We picked up your E8 colleague SJF for the next two years, while keeping Dickinson and CMU.  Gotta have Murray start negotiating sooner. 

In a perfect world (for Bart fans such as myself), we'd have taken IC in instead of RIT and picked up Alfred while maintaining Dickinson and CMU (I could live without CMU, but I think there are a lot of benefits from such an excellent institution plus greater geographic diversity from recruiting and they're a solid program). 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HailMary15 on November 15, 2009, 07:37:42 PM
I played in the nefc and regardless of what people think the league is gettng better. I graduated from MEM and would love to see them start playing a strnger ooc schedule. (husson would be a good local start)

I for one don't care about travel time or first round matchups but how are teams from TX in the east bracket? The result would be worse but I could understand if they were matched up with mount union in the first round since they are somewhere close to the east region
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 16, 2009, 04:12:38 AM
Quote from: HailMary15 on November 15, 2009, 07:37:42 PM

I for one don't care about travel time or first round matchups but how are teams from TX in the east bracket? The result would be worse but I could understand if they were matched up with mount union in the first round since they are somewhere close to the east region

1. They're not.

2. It's not "the East bracket."
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on November 16, 2009, 06:26:24 AM
Quote from: pumkinattack on November 15, 2009, 06:46:02 PM
You're too slow. 

That's what Pep's siblings always said.....  :-[

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: theoriginalupstate on November 16, 2009, 07:56:29 AM
Quote from: AUPepBand on November 16, 2009, 06:26:24 AM
Quote from: pumkinattack on November 15, 2009, 06:46:02 PM
You're too slow. 

That's what Pep's siblings always said.....  :-[



That and Pep's wife said...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HailMary15 on November 16, 2009, 08:44:54 AM
I know they aren't playing MHB but I was asking about the possibility more than anything because that was the rumor the past couple days. After looking back at your predictions I can see that it wasn't labeled "East." I'm not really sure why I got it in my head that it was regionalized.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: RockRB11 on November 16, 2009, 09:28:58 AM
Who cares who is playing where.  At the end of the day the team has no control over that.  All a team can do is take what is given to them and get ready to go smash heads.  I agree with some of the comments before.  If I were still in college playing, I would have loved to hop on a plane and travel somewhere to play.  As for the NEFC champion, realistically Maine is 1 and done.  If I were them I would just be happy that I'm there, go out give it my best, and have fun.  Enjoy the fact that you're there, not b*tch about it.  Not that any Maine players are on here saying that, just hypothetically.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on November 16, 2009, 09:43:00 AM
Quote from: Upstate on November 16, 2009, 07:56:29 AM
Quote from: AUPepBand on November 16, 2009, 06:26:24 AM
Quote from: pumkinattack on November 15, 2009, 06:46:02 PM
You're too slow.  

That's what Pep's siblings always said.....  :-[



That and Pep's wife said...

Pep's wife says, "That's the way, uh huh, uh huh, I like it, uh huh, uh huh..."

Men are like microwaves; women are like slow-cookers.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 'gro on November 16, 2009, 10:13:13 AM
Quote from: pumkinattack on November 15, 2009, 06:10:01 PM
I don't think it's in RPI's interest to add more NEFC games. 

RPI should be trying to have Ms Jackson make it rain on Carnegie Mellon (engineering complement) to pry them off Hobart's schedule.  A nice midlevel game against a solid program and excellent academic institution. 

Gro would like to see a new rivalry replace the coast guard game, CMU or MIT would be the best choices. MIT doesn't help the OOC but it would be an interesting rivalry (Ms Jackson went to MIT, current MIT coach came from RPI, angry nerds need football too, etc.)

Re: Endicott. At one time they were an "up and coming" team along with Curry, it's too bad they haven't had much success it would help RPI's scheduling woes.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on November 16, 2009, 11:42:38 AM
ECAC matchups....the old Plymouth State/Springfield rivalry revisited....how many passes could their be in this game?  10 total?

Good luck to Maine Maritime, too bad you couldn't have someone go up to Castine in November.

CAPE COD, Mass. - Twelve teams have been selected to participate in the six ECAC Division III Football Bowl Championship games to be played on Saturday, November 21.

In the ECAC Northeast Bowl Championship, Plymouth State (8-2) will travel to Massachusetts to take on Springfield (7-2). Also in the north region, Union (7-3) will host Hartwick (5-4) in the ECAC North Atlantic Bowl Championship game. In the ECAC Northwest Bowl Championship, St. John Fisher (6-3) was selected to host Cortland State (7-3).

In the south region, host Kean (8-2) will face Ursinus (6-4) in the ECAC Southeast Bowl Championship game.  Wilkes (6-4) will travel to Franklin and Marshall (8-2) for the ECAC South Atlantic Bowl Championship, while Salisbury University (5-5) will travel to host Lebanon Valley (8-2) in the ECAC Southwest Bowl Championship game. 

All six of the ECAC Bowl Championship games have been tentatively scheduled for a noon kickoff.

 

ECAC Northeast Bowl: Plymouth State (8-2) at Springfield (7-2)   

ECAC North Atlantic Bowl: Hartwick (5-4) at Union (7-3)

ECAC Northwest Bowl: Cortland State (7-3) at St. John Fisher (6-3)


ECAC Southeast Bowl: Ursinus (6-4) at Kean (8-2)


ECAC South Atlantic Bowl: Wilkes (6-4) at Franklin and Marshall (8-2)


ECAC Southwest Bowl: Salisbury (5-5) at Lebanon Valley (8-2)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HailMary15 on November 16, 2009, 01:09:50 PM
It will be a while before any NEFC team hosts an NCAA game. With the completion of Maritime's new stadium it would have been a good year to host a post season game. It's too bad it was the Boyd's year to host the conference championship.

Did Curry put in for an ECAC game?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 16, 2009, 01:12:53 PM
Quote from: HailMary15 on November 16, 2009, 01:09:50 PM
It will be a while before any NEFC team hosts an NCAA game. With the completion of Maritime's new stadium it would have been a good year to host a post season game. It's too bad it was the Boyd's year to host the conference championship.

Did Curry put in for an ECAC game?

Curry wasn't eligible for an ECAC game.  Check out page 202 for the explanation.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on November 16, 2009, 01:17:00 PM
Quote from: HailMary15 on November 16, 2009, 01:09:50 PM
It will be a while before any NEFC team hosts an NCAA game. With the completion of Maritime's new stadium it would have been a good year to host a post season game. It's too bad it was the Boyd's year to host the conference championship.

Did Curry put in for an ECAC game?

Curry hosted in Hartwick in 2007 and won...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 16, 2009, 01:18:56 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 16, 2009, 01:17:00 PM
Quote from: HailMary15 on November 16, 2009, 01:09:50 PM
It will be a while before any NEFC team hosts an NCAA game. With the completion of Maritime's new stadium it would have been a good year to host a post season game. It's too bad it was the Boyd's year to host the conference championship.

Did Curry put in for an ECAC game?

Curry hosted in Hartwick in 2007 and won...

Curry should have hosted RPI in the playoffs in 2003 but their stadium didn't meet NCAA standards.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HailMary15 on November 16, 2009, 02:40:07 PM
Alright I was dead wrong on that one. What are these NCAA requirements for stadiums? Is there a link to the full list somewhere on this site?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 16, 2009, 03:00:36 PM
Quote from: HailMary15 on November 16, 2009, 02:40:07 PM
Alright I was dead wrong on that one. What are these NCAA requirements for stadiums? Is there a link to the full list somewhere on this site?


I am not sure.  Too much stuff to read through to find it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on November 16, 2009, 03:12:27 PM
Quote from: HailMary15 on November 16, 2009, 02:40:07 PM
Alright I was dead wrong on that one. What are these NCAA requirements for stadiums? Is there a link to the full list somewhere on this site?


I believe it has to do with seating capacity.

Here is the link to the Preliminary rounds hosting manual.
Hosting  (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/2b65d0004fdaa40c9425d4be749a3a0e/Manual+Prelim+Rounds+09.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=2b65d0004fdaa40c9425d4be749a3a0e)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: HailMary15 on November 16, 2009, 03:53:21 PM
Quote from: Knightstalker on November 16, 2009, 03:12:27 PM
Quote from: HailMary15 on November 16, 2009, 02:40:07 PM
Alright I was dead wrong on that one. What are these NCAA requirements for stadiums? Is there a link to the full list somewhere on this site?


I believe it has to do with seating capacity.

Here is the link to the Preliminary rounds hosting manual.
Hosting  (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/2b65d0004fdaa40c9425d4be749a3a0e/Manual+Prelim+Rounds+09.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=2b65d0004fdaa40c9425d4be749a3a0e)


Thanks for the link
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 17, 2009, 12:43:52 AM
Seating capacity, sufficient press box space, the ability to close the gate to make people pay to attend. Those are the big ones.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bombers798891 on November 17, 2009, 03:28:44 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 17, 2009, 12:43:52 AM
Seating capacity, sufficient press box space, the ability to close the gate to make people pay to attend. Those are the big ones.

I know it's not NEFC related, but I've heard this is why Cortland had to travel to IC in the 2nd round of the NCAA's in 1988 despite a H2H win and undefeated record. Although someone said it was more of a safety issue--keeping people off the field was a problem at Cortland's old stadium.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: GBear210 on November 20, 2009, 01:55:50 PM
NEFC All-Stars

Here's a breakdown on the team's All-Stars with their conference records (may be off by one or two players, but close).  Each Division's coach votes their own division.

Any opinions on the treatment WNEC got :o?  Their first 6 win season in their 29 year history (6-4).  That's one heck of a Coaching job with only 3 All-Stars ???!  The Bogan's voted the Mass Maritime Coach, Coach of the Year (3 wins - 5 All-Stars).  BTW - Skip B also awarded Coach of the Year in 2006 >:(.

Bogan Division

Maine Maritime (6-1)      10 All-Stars
Bridgewater State (5-2)   10 All-Stars
Westfield State (5-2)      9 All-Stars
Coast Guard (4-3)          7 All-Stars
Framingham St. (3-4)     6 All-Stars
Fitchburg St. (2-5)          7 All-Stars
Mass Maritime (2-5)       5 All-Stars
Worcester St. (1-6)        2 All-Stars

Boyd Division

Curry (7-0)                     14 All-Stars
Plymouth St. (6-1)          12 All-Stars
WNEC (5-2)                    3 All-Stars <<<<
Salve Regina (3-4)          9 All-Stars
Endicott (3-4)                 7 All-Stars
Nichols (3-4)                  7 All-Stars
MIT (1-6)                       6 All-Stars
UMass Dartmouth (0-7)  0 All-Stars
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 22, 2009, 11:14:07 AM

Congrats to all PSU seniors!! you did a hell of a job these past 4 years to turn this program around and put PSU back on the map. You've been great teachers to the young group you leave behind, don't hang your head, you had a great season !!
                                          "nuff said"
                                             NLNG


Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3playsforpassion on November 23, 2009, 09:07:31 AM
Actually, I second Nolinenoglory's sentiment. 

Congrats to all the seniors that have played their last football game, and those who are in the playoffs.  Most of you have spent four years as true student athletes and that will serve you well as you graduate in the spring and move forward in your life.  The memories you have made on and off the field with your teammates will last a lifetime.

Congrats to the PSU seniors, it has been a pleasure watching you develop over the past few years.  You have made your mark on that program and hopefully your team, and the league will get better and better every year. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballguy32 on December 02, 2009, 04:07:48 PM
For everyone who says NEFC does not play OOC games, they obviously don't know what they are talking about. Some teams have been playing OOC or are starting too. Teams that should have been are the ones that are not.

Endicott has been playing RPI since the first year of football. They have also played teams like Hartwick and WPI, and Plymouth State when they were out of conference.

BSC has played Alfred and Rowan

Salve has been playing OOC since they started playing football and this year played both Hartwick and WPI.

These team are taking the competition Out Of Conference and it seems as if no one has noticed. Do they have a great OOC record? NO, but they are preparing themselves for the season and it will pay off.

I feel like the problem is, the top teams have not played tough out of conference games or any until recently and that gives the conference and bad rap with OOC.

If your going to post please do a little research before coming out and saying that teams don't play OOC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on December 02, 2009, 04:29:17 PM
Quote from: footballguy32 on December 02, 2009, 04:07:48 PM
For everyone who says NEFC does not play OOC games, they obviously don't know what they are talking about. Some teams have been playing OOC or are starting too. Teams that should have been are the ones that are not.

Endicott has been playing RPI since the first year of football. They have also played teams like Hartwick and WPI, and Plymouth State when they were out of conference.

BSC has played Alfred and Rowan

Salve has been playing OOC since they started playing football and this year played both Hartwick and WPI.

These team are taking the competition Out Of Conference and it seems as if no one has noticed. Do they have a great OOC record? NO, but they are preparing themselves for the season and it will pay off.

I feel like the problem is, the top teams have not played tough out of conference games or any until recently and that gives the conference and bad rap with OOC.

If your going to post please do a little research before coming out and saying that teams don't play OOC.

It's tough to notice when you have 16 teams in the league, you play a total of 17 non-conference games as a league, and you have a combined out of conference record of 5-12 with wins over D3 giants like Anna Maria, Becker, Norwich, and Mount Ida (twice).

It's not that people don't know what they are talking about (as you quoted)...its just when presented with the facts, no one really cares...and with a total of 5 OOC wins as a league and playing no really top level teams this year (with the exception of Alfred and Springfield...and even SC is pushing it)...what do you expect???

A little research might have put some of this into perspective...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballguy32 on December 02, 2009, 04:41:25 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on December 02, 2009, 04:29:17 PM
Quote from: footballguy32 on December 02, 2009, 04:07:48 PM
For everyone who says NEFC does not play OOC games, they obviously don't know what they are talking about. Some teams have been playing OOC or are starting too. Teams that should have been are the ones that are not.

Endicott has been playing RPI since the first year of football. They have also played teams like Hartwick and WPI, and Plymouth State when they were out of conference.

BSC has played Alfred and Rowan

Salve has been playing OOC since they started playing football and this year played both Hartwick and WPI.

These team are taking the competition Out Of Conference and it seems as if no one has noticed. Do they have a great OOC record? NO, but they are preparing themselves for the season and it will pay off.

I feel like the problem is, the top teams have not played tough out of conference games or any until recently and that gives the conference and bad rap with OOC.

If your going to post please do a little research before coming out and saying that teams don't play OOC.

It's tough to notice when you have 16 teams in the league, you play a total of 17 non-conference games as a league, and you have a combined out of conference record of 5-12 with wins over D3 giants like Anna Maria, Becker, Norwich, and Mount Ida (twice).

It's not that people don't know what they are talking about (as you quoted)...its just when presented with the facts, no one really cares...and with a total of 5 OOC wins as a league and playing no really top level teams this year (with the exception of Alfred and Springfield...and even SC is pushing it)...what do you expect???

A little research might have put some of this into perspective...

17 non-conference games. Teams are trying to play OOC. Your not going to see a record of 12-5 overnight. My point is that teams are playing OOC. Would you rather see them play the top teams in the east and go 0-17? You have to start somewhere and you can't beat the best, if you havn't beaten the second tier teams.

For someone who seems to have done all the research I figured you would understand my point. I guess I was wrong.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on December 03, 2009, 07:38:45 AM
Quote from: footballguy32 on December 02, 2009, 04:41:25 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on December 02, 2009, 04:29:17 PM
Quote from: footballguy32 on December 02, 2009, 04:07:48 PM
For everyone who says NEFC does not play OOC games, they obviously don't know what they are talking about. Some teams have been playing OOC or are starting too. Teams that should have been are the ones that are not.

Endicott has been playing RPI since the first year of football. They have also played teams like Hartwick and WPI, and Plymouth State when they were out of conference.

BSC has played Alfred and Rowan

Salve has been playing OOC since they started playing football and this year played both Hartwick and WPI.

These team are taking the competition Out Of Conference and it seems as if no one has noticed. Do they have a great OOC record? NO, but they are preparing themselves for the season and it will pay off.

I feel like the problem is, the top teams have not played tough out of conference games or any until recently and that gives the conference and bad rap with OOC.

If your going to post please do a little research before coming out and saying that teams don't play OOC.

It's tough to notice when you have 16 teams in the league, you play a total of 17 non-conference games as a league, and you have a combined out of conference record of 5-12 with wins over D3 giants like Anna Maria, Becker, Norwich, and Mount Ida (twice).

It's not that people don't know what they are talking about (as you quoted)...its just when presented with the facts, no one really cares...and with a total of 5 OOC wins as a league and playing no really top level teams this year (with the exception of Alfred and Springfield...and even SC is pushing it)...what do you expect???

A little research might have put some of this into perspective...

17 non-conference games. Teams are trying to play OOC. Your not going to see a record of 12-5 overnight. My point is that teams are playing OOC. Would you rather see them play the top teams in the east and go 0-17? You have to start somewhere and you can't beat the best, if you havn't beaten the second tier teams.

For someone who seems to have done all the research I figured you would understand my point. I guess I was wrong.

I get it...but you are taking the "for everyone who says NEFC does not play OOC games, they obviously don't know what they are talking about" a bit too literally.  Most of us actually understand the NEFC does play OOC games...but it averages to barely over 1 OOC game per NEFC team for the entire year.  I concede...one is higher then zero.

The other part of that is the fact that out of those 17 OOC games total, no one really played any powerhouses...Alfred being the exception.  So when someone says you played no one...it is probably in reference to each NEFC team playing about one OOC game and the fact that almost none of those games were exceptionally difficult.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nefan on December 03, 2009, 11:57:35 AM
A couple of things about OOC games- 1)Travel is not easy for teams w/o money- most schools do not stay overnight at Away games and costs are tight in most of the athletic dept's in the conf (not all).. 2) Scheduling is not an easy things with conf dates etc. That is why it is easier to play a NEFC team- Similar dates, also some coaches will not play some programs, for many reasons, etc.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on December 04, 2009, 07:42:01 AM
Quote from: nefan on December 03, 2009, 11:57:35 AM
A couple of things about OOC games- 1)Travel is not easy for teams w/o money- most schools do not stay overnight at Away games and costs are tight in most of the athletic dept's in the conf (not all).. 2) Scheduling is not an easy things with conf dates etc. That is why it is easier to play a NEFC team- Similar dates, also some coaches will not play some programs, for many reasons, etc.

I completely understand about the whole travel thing...you see a lot of teams in the East going to 9 games.  I think people actually understand that point.  I also think that you guys are an easy target though...as you almost isolate yourselves like the NESCAC.  Obviously not to that extreme.  But when your 16 team league plays a total of 17 OOC games and against hardly anyone that registers as a blip on the radar screen as a tough team...you are going to get criticized a bit.  Clearly, your top team (Curry) has made a bit of a dent in recent years in the playoffs...but beyond that the perception of your league is weak, and until the league starts playing more and better OOC teams and doing at least marginally well, it will probably continue to have that perception.  Just the way it is...nothing personal.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on December 05, 2009, 10:06:31 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on December 04, 2009, 07:42:01 AM
Quote from: nefan on December 03, 2009, 11:57:35 AM
A couple of things about OOC games- 1)Travel is not easy for teams w/o money- most schools do not stay overnight at Away games and costs are tight in most of the athletic dept's in the conf (not all).. 2) Scheduling is not an easy things with conf dates etc. That is why it is easier to play a NEFC team- Similar dates, also some coaches will not play some programs, for many reasons, etc.

I completely understand about the whole travel thing...you see a lot of teams in the East going to 9 games.  I think people actually understand that point.  I also think that you guys are an easy target though...as you almost isolate yourselves like the NESCAC.  Obviously not to that extreme.  But when your 16 team league plays a total of 17 OOC games and against hardly anyone that registers as a blip on the radar screen as a tough team...you are going to get criticized a bit.  Clearly, your top team (Curry) has made a bit of a dent in recent years in the playoffs...but beyond that the perception of your league is weak, and until the league starts playing more and better OOC teams and doing at least marginally well, it will probably continue to have that perception.  Just the way it is...nothing personal.

Here goes Yanks again. dlip pokes at him on a previous board and then, "poof" he makes a solid post that dlip agrees with 100%. Good post Yanks.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballguy32 on December 28, 2009, 11:11:26 AM
Rumor has it that a couple NEFC coaches have expressed interest in the Wesleyan U Job. Does anyone think they have a chance.

Will there be any coaching changes before next season?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballguy32 on December 28, 2009, 11:13:48 AM
I know it's early but any predictions on how the league will shape up in 2010?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rams1102 on July 05, 2010, 06:43:00 PM
Well, D3 Football starts in less then (3) months. I'm a Montclair fan and wondering what to expect from Westfield State. By looking at the numbers it appears that they had an average "O" 21.5 ppg and a real good "D" 11.5 ppg. It seems like they are losing (3) on "O" which should be an improvement, but lost (8) on "D".  You guys are coming to Montclair on Sept 11th and just being curious. The Montclair "O" will be improved, but (5) loses on "D" will be a test for us. Don't think we will be a Pre-Season Top 25 and we will have a lot to prove after a real good season last year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on August 15, 2010, 01:00:10 PM
 I smell football in the air.................. good luck to all !!!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: K-Mack on August 18, 2010, 08:40:33 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on July 05, 2010, 06:43:00 PM
Well, D3 Football starts in less then (3) months. I'm a Montclair fan and wondering what to expect from Westfield State. By looking at the numbers it appears that they had an average "O" 21.5 ppg and a real good "D" 11.5 ppg. It seems like they are losing (3) on "O" which should be an improvement, but lost (8) on "D".  You guys are coming to Montclair on Sept 11th and just being curious. The Montclair "O" will be improved, but (5) loses on "D" will be a test for us. Don't think we will be a Pre-Season Top 25 and we will have a lot to prove after a real good season last year.

(puts on shill hat)

Just talked to Westfield for Kickoff '10. All I can say is you'll get a McMillan-quality preview.

As for whether you consider that a good thing or not, that's your call :)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballguy32 on August 18, 2010, 11:00:39 PM
Just saw the Pre-Season Conference rankings. Any surprises.

I think Salve getting pick 6th is a surprise. I would have gone with at least 7th, maybe they sneak by UMD. New Coach and they lose almost 95% of offense. Not to mention 2 all conference defensive players.

I think WNEC was a fluke and expect them to drop down as well.

Any predictions?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: labart96 on August 26, 2010, 03:39:01 PM
Do any of you guys here on the NEFC board want to participate in the East Region fan poll as a voter?  It would be great to have a NEFC rep.

Ping AUKaz00 (see the related thread) if you want to sign up!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballguy32 on September 07, 2010, 11:36:17 PM
So week one is in the books.

Surprise of the week is UMass Dartmouth. I think they may be a better team then many had guessed. With a tough freshmen class and a couple of transfers I see them winning a few more games and even competing with the big boys.

I knew WNEC was going to struggle after last season but they should still be better then the effort they had against Norwich.

As for Salve, I am surprised. I don't know how good WPI is going to be but facing an option offense with a new coaching staff is tough and the defense appears to be all over the field. Hartwick will be a challenge with a very solid defense.

Plymouth State had a scare but don't they always early in the season. I think the o-line is going to be a struggle.

Lets see if we can get some picks in this week.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 08, 2010, 02:10:28 AM
Quote from: footballguy32 on September 07, 2010, 11:36:17 PM
So week one is in the books.

Surprise of the week is UMass Dartmouth. I think they may be a better team then many had guessed. With a tough freshmen class and a couple of transfers I see them winning a few more games and even competing with the big boys.

I knew WNEC was going to struggle after last season but they should still be better then the effort they had against Norwich.

As for Salve, I am surprised. I don't know how good WPI is going to be but facing an option offense with a new coaching staff is tough and the defense appears to be all over the field. Hartwick will be a challenge with a very solid defense.

Plymouth State had a scare but don't they always early in the season. I think the o-line is going to be a struggle.

Lets see if we can get some picks in this week.

Mass-Dartmouth was my Triple Take pick to end its long losing streak.

http://d3blogs.com/d3football/2010/09/02/triple-take-off-and-running/
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on September 08, 2010, 09:12:13 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 08, 2010, 02:10:28 AM
Quote from: footballguy32 on September 07, 2010, 11:36:17 PM
So week one is in the books.

Surprise of the week is UMass Dartmouth. I think they may be a better team then many had guessed. With a tough freshmen class and a couple of transfers I see them winning a few more games and even competing with the big boys.

I knew WNEC was going to struggle after last season but they should still be better then the effort they had against Norwich.

As for Salve, I am surprised. I don't know how good WPI is going to be but facing an option offense with a new coaching staff is tough and the defense appears to be all over the field. Hartwick will be a challenge with a very solid defense.

Plymouth State had a scare but don't they always early in the season. I think the o-line is going to be a struggle.

Lets see if we can get some picks in this week.


Mass-Dartmouth was my Triple Take pick to end its long losing streak.

http://d3blogs.com/d3football/2010/09/02/triple-take-off-and-running/

Pep is happy for UMass-Dartmouth. When Alfredopened there last year, Pep saw a lot of raw athletic ability in its younger players and transfers but knew it would take some time to get the horses all moving together. Pep was wel-acquainted with the Dartmouth SID, who had worked in a similar capacity at Alfred State College. Pep is tankful heis not facing an eight-hour excursion to eastern Mass this weekend..but is headed to D.C. to visit Pep Jr. who moved there this summer.

Perhaps Pep could watch PC's Catholic team go to 2-0 with a win over Newport News, which was defeated by Alfred State 22-7 Saturday across the street. It would be fun to see the digs where Pat, over the phone, gave the amazing play-by-play of a wild finish of an AU-CUA clash.
Title: U g L y
Post by: Findtheball on September 12, 2010, 11:33:05 AM
 Watching PSU vs Mt Ida was ugly to watch . Nothing went as planned . Hopefully next week we'll see a different PSU team
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 18, 2010, 08:56:49 AM
Coast Guard at Curry tonight, 7pm start.

I'll be there.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 18, 2010, 10:00:49 PM
Curry was rolling over Coast Guard when I left 35-0 with about 7 minutes in the 4th
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on September 19, 2010, 08:33:11 AM
PSU looked much better this week... still firing on 6 cylinders though but getting there. PSU 17 BSC  0
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Trenchmen on September 27, 2010, 02:08:17 PM
Lot of parity in the Conference this year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: labart96 on October 01, 2010, 05:40:56 PM
This weekend on ITH (this Sunday @ 7:30 PM ET) we will interview a key player in the weekend's slate of games, as well as welcome Springfield College Head Coach Mike DeLong live at 8:10 PM ET.  We'll be discussing SC's reasoning behind leaving the E8, his views on the "weakness" of the East and the possibility of another year with MUC in the "eastern playoff bracket" (Coach DeLong is on the championship selection committee), among other topics.

Log on to www.inthehuddLLe.com this Sunday!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 03, 2010, 08:20:09 PM
Quote from: Trenchmen on September 27, 2010, 02:08:17 PM
Lot of parity in the Conference this year.
you can say that again
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PantherPr1de on October 04, 2010, 10:25:42 AM
I just saw that Curry lost to Endicott.  This is getting very interesting.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 07, 2010, 02:15:41 PM
Little blurb about the NEFC in todays herald:

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/college/football/view/20101007parity_reigns_in_nefc/
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan75 on October 12, 2010, 02:49:55 PM
So does anyone know what the story is on Justin Fuller or Nathan Shear. I was expecting those two to be the top rushers this year in th conference. However, both have only played 3 games this season. Are they injured for now, or are they done for the season? And how did Jim Bower end up receiving a 5th year? I thougt he played all 4 years...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vern1 on October 12, 2010, 10:57:15 PM
Nathan Sherr and Justin Fuller are both injured and yes Bower has played four years and it is unclear how he is still able to be playing...but this week should be interesting for both sides of the conference
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan75 on October 12, 2010, 11:11:27 PM
Are the injuries season ending or are both just missing a couple of games? Yes, the conference should be interesting this weekend with Endicott play Plymouth St. and Maine Maritime playing Framingham. Could Determine who will be playing in the conference championship!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on October 13, 2010, 08:45:27 AM
Bower played the first two non-division games in his Sophmore year then got injured.  He didn't play in any of the seven Division games that year which must have allowed him to be eligible for a 5th year.  He's on a hardship waiver and he is in his final semester as a senior.  That's what I know.

Looks to be another great weekend for football with some great and unexpected important matchups.
Endicott at Plymouth State
Maine Maritime at Framingham State

Would have never thought at the beginning of this season that these games would be so important.  And WNEC, Endicott, and Plymouth State go at each other this week and the next two weeks so it's up for grabs.

The winner of Maine and Framingham has the upper hand and controls their own future.  Framingham is calling themselve the underdog in that game.  I'm not buying that.  Looks like a very balanced offensive attack against Maine's defense which is average.  Last team with the ball probably wins this games and could be high scoring.  Weather, other than Saturday is expected to be a windy day, should have no effect on the game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan75 on October 13, 2010, 09:55:16 AM
I think Endicott might be able to beat plymouth state this weekend. Ply doesnt seem to be as tough as the past 2 years and endicott has been on a roll. I think they can carry that fire into this weeks game and come out with a win.

And i agree... Framingham is no underdog this year. I think they are going to give Maine Maritime a run for their money. Framingham has a great passer and a good run game along with a sound run defense. I think they have all the tools they need to beat Maine Maritime. With that being said, will all their tools work on saturday? I think Maine is still a great football team even with the loss to Fitchburg state. (Tough loss which should have ever happened). Should be a high scoring game.

Maybe after this week we can get a clearer picture on who will have the best chance to win their division and play for the championship.

Does anyone have a favorite this year who they think will go?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PrideFan1 on October 13, 2010, 04:39:33 PM
When are we going to see a Springfield vs WNEC game? Just throwing that out there.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: union89 on October 13, 2010, 04:46:26 PM
Quote from: PrideFan1 on October 13, 2010, 04:39:33 PM
When are we going to see a Springfield vs WNEC game? Just throwing that out there.


Why in the world would you want to??  What does Springfield have to gain in that matchup?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: PrideFan1 on October 13, 2010, 09:34:57 PM
Quote from: Union89 on October 13, 2010, 04:46:26 PM
Quote from: PrideFan1 on October 13, 2010, 04:39:33 PM
When are we going to see a Springfield vs WNEC game? Just throwing that out there.


Why in the world would you want to??  What does Springfield have to gain in that matchup?

I think rivalry games are great for both the programs and for the community
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: maxpower on October 13, 2010, 09:40:49 PM
Quote from: PrideFan1 on October 13, 2010, 09:34:57 PM
Quote from: Union89 on October 13, 2010, 04:46:26 PM
Quote from: PrideFan1 on October 13, 2010, 04:39:33 PM
When are we going to see a Springfield vs WNEC game? Just throwing that out there.


Why in the world would you want to??  What does Springfield have to gain in that matchup?

I think rivalry games are great for both the programs and for the community


!TASTE IT!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan75 on October 14, 2010, 08:17:25 AM
Here are my picks for this weeks games. (The winner is in bold)

Curry  VS  Salve Regina   
Endicott VS  Plymouth St. 
MIT  VS  Western New Eng.
Mass.-Dartmouth  VS  Nichols
Fitchburg St.  VS  Massachusetts Maritime
Maine Maritime  VS  Framingham St.   
Coast Guard   VS  Westfield St.   
Worcester St.  VS   Bridgewater St

Anyone else with some of this weeks predictions?

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 14, 2010, 10:47:31 AM
Quote from: PrideFan1 on October 13, 2010, 09:34:57 PM
Quote from: Union89 on October 13, 2010, 04:46:26 PM
Quote from: PrideFan1 on October 13, 2010, 04:39:33 PM
When are we going to see a Springfield vs WNEC game? Just throwing that out there.


Why in the world would you want to??  What does Springfield have to gain in that matchup?

I think rivalry games are great for both the programs and for the community

I know several people who work in both programs.  My take is the WNEC has somewhat of an inferiority complex and that Springfield wants nothing to do with them.  Although the football teams are still a long way apart, several other WNEC teams have caught up with them and this burns SC a bit.  You also see WNEC expanding their athletic budget and they are starting to hire and pay more coaches.  I believe it has only been 1-2 years where WNEC has had a full time football coach (with 2 full time assistants)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Trenchmen on October 14, 2010, 02:41:55 PM
Curry  VS  Salve Regina   ... Curry will not lose 4 games this season
Endicott VS  Plymouth St.  ... Endicott wins the Game of the Week
MIT  VS  Western New Eng. ... I'll take WNEC in this one
Mass.-Dartmouth  VS  Nichols ... UMD stays out of the cellar
Fitchburg St.  VS  Massachusetts Maritime ... Bucs by a landslide
Maine Maritime  VS  Framingham St.  ... I dont think MME will stop the Ram attack
Coast Guard   VS  Westfield St. ... Owls will beat CGA in a tough road trip
Worcester St.  VS   Bridgewater St.  ... Bridgewater puts on a show for Homecoming

Good luck to all competitors this week!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: labart96 on October 16, 2010, 08:35:38 PM
Congrats to the PState (sex) Panthers on a good win over Endicott....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on October 17, 2010, 08:25:37 AM
I was at the Maine-Framingham game and into the 3rd quarter it looked like last team with the football was going to win.  But after Maine took the lead 29-26 in the 3rd they stopped Framingham on their next possession.  After that they figured out the Framingham offense and just started to pull away.  As much as Framingham tried they could not stop Maine's running game.  They might get one or two stops, but then pow Maine would roll off a big gain.  Framingham QB Kurt Leone has great passing accuracy and touch.

Maine now has the tie breaker, but still has to win out.  And their schedule is still tough as everybody left always play them tough.

Looks like it could be down to Plymouth and WNEC.  My bet is on Plymouth.  But if WNEC beats Plymouth and then 2 weeks from now Endicott beats WNEC there could be a 3-way tie.  Anybody know how that gets figured out?

Also Plymouth has both Salve Regina and Curry.  Not an easy schedule to close with.  Who would have though that Curry could be a spoiler.

Getting interesting.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan75 on October 17, 2010, 09:01:22 PM
Plymouth pulled it out. Got to say I'm impressed. I think they are a better team than WNEC but we will find out this weekend.

Maine Maritime Seemed to get it together finally shutting down Framingham in the second half. SHould be a good game this week against Mass Maritime who right now is tied for first with them.

Curry losing another one but this time it's a blow out. If someone told me this was going to happen I would have never believed him and probably would have tried to put money on it!

It seems that Bridgewater St is finding their groove without Fuller.(Is he done for the season?) They still have a shot at the title. Things are still tight in the Bogan.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on October 18, 2010, 08:49:20 AM
Congrats to Plymouth State on the big win, could get interesting with a loss to WNEC.

What is going on with Curry? Are they having issues with injuries? Too many losses in the off-season? Does anyone know? I would have never thought they would have 3 losses...especially conference losses. I guess some players are electing to go to the other NEFC schools.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on October 18, 2010, 09:55:34 AM
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3. Think through your own philosophy as to how much to weigh previous ranking, won/loss record, your sense as to who would win head to head, national performances in recent years, quality wins, and whatever reasonable criteria you care to choose.   
4. Submit a ballot EVERY WEEK by the deadline. Missing a deadline will be cause to forfeit your spot. Create and submit your ballot BEFORE viewing the D3football.com poll. You can look at previous weeks polls to get you started if you are having a hard time filling out the last few slots.

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This poll is to promote meaningful and fun discussion on d3boards.com.  It is simply something that will be fun to contrast with D3football.com's poll. D3football.com's poll is the one legitimate poll we have in D3 football in my opinion.  This poll is not even intended to become #2. I just think it would be an interesting point of comparison and discussion. 

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The first 25 respondents will be our initial group of pollsters.  This group will remain the D3 FOOTBALL FAN POLL TOP 25 pollsters unless they resign their position or miss a deadline.  Pollsters, I will never post your names on the boards.  If you choose to, that is fine. If you are beyond the first 25 responses, your name will be placed on a "waiting list".  If there are fewer than 25 respondents by midnight on Wednesday, we will go with what we have and continue to have "open" slots to be filled.

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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan75 on October 18, 2010, 01:13:16 PM
Evan Berneche, Westfields number 1 receiver rushes for 236 yards. Unbelievable! Do you think he will keep the starting RB spot even after Luke Johnson returns? Evan is a senior... Might as well see what he can do for the rest of the year right? Westfield is still in the hunt. Barely but still has a shot.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan75 on October 18, 2010, 11:49:51 PM
Looking at the sched I realized this week is the Admiral Cup game between Mass and Maine Maritime Academy. Sounds like a pretty good rival and a good game to watch this week. With both teams tied for first I bet both will be bringing their "A" game. I see Nathan Sherr has not played in the past 3 games due to an injury. Does anyone know if he is putting the pads on for this game. I cant imagine him sitting out a game this important!

Anyone with a little background history on this admiral cup game? When it started? Who leads the series?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 19, 2010, 06:11:51 AM
Quote from: footballfan75 on October 13, 2010, 09:55:16 AM
I think Endicott might be able to beat plymouth state this weekend. Ply doesnt seem to be as tough as the past 2 years and endicott has been on a roll. I think they can carry that fire into this weeks game and come out with a win.

And i agree... Framingham is no underdog this year. I think they are going to give Maine Maritime a run for their money. Framingham has a great passer and a good run game along with a sound run defense. I think they have all the tools they need to beat Maine Maritime. With that being said, will all their tools work on saturday? I think Maine is still a great football team even with the loss to Fitchburg state. (Tough loss which should have ever happened). Should be a high scoring game.

Maybe after this week we can get a clearer picture on who will have the best chance to win their division and play for the championship.

Does anyone have a favorite this year who they think will go?

                Oh My !!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jkelly24 on October 19, 2010, 02:17:47 PM
hey NLNG!!!!!  ;D

great win for plymouth...had to work...sorry i missed the great game.

looks like footballfan75 was 0 for 2.
here on out every game for plymouth is vital. looks like every game is a playoff.
as we all know it is one play at a time.

see you on saturday you harry monster, look for the guy with the football mask!!!!!!!!! 8-)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan75 on October 19, 2010, 07:59:10 PM
Quote from: jkelly24 on October 19, 2010, 02:17:47 PM
hey NLNG!!!!!  ;D

great win for plymouth...had to work...sorry i missed the great game.

looks like footballfan75 was 0 for 2.
here on out every game for plymouth is vital. looks like every game is a playoff.
as we all know it is one play at a time.

see you on saturday you harry monster, look for the guy with the football mask!!!!!!!!! 8-)

I don't believe I was 0 for 2... If you read my picks for last week you will see I had Maine over framingham. The quote that you are referring to is about framingham being an underdog. All I said was is that they have the tools to beat maine not that they will..
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on October 20, 2010, 10:52:33 AM
A little info on the Admiral's Cup.  Mass leads series 21-16, but Maine has won last 6.

http://www.mmabucs.com/sports/fball/2010-11/releases/Massachusetts_Maritime_Football_Week_-8_Notes_10-18-10.pdf

My picks for this week.

Game of the week:
Plymouth over WNEC  (Endicott would love a different result.)

Endicott easily beats UMD.
Will Curry lose 4 in a row?  Not likely.  Easy win over Nichols.
Salve Regina beats MIT.

Maine makes it seven Admiral Cups in a row with a win over Mass Maritime.  Mass Maritime will not be able to stop the Maine running attack.
Framingham in a close one over Westfield.
Bridgewater over Fitchburg.
Worcester beats Coast Guard.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan75 on October 20, 2010, 12:16:13 PM
Thanks for the info on the Admiral cup. Thats quite the little write up Mass Maritime put together.

Congrats to the Westfield's Evan Berneche on his Gold Helmet Award! Thats a great honor.

I'll have my picks up for this weeks games by tonight but I got to say they are probably very close to what you picked vttanker.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan75 on October 20, 2010, 07:33:38 PM
Ok this weeks pic (winner in bold)

Plymouth St vs WNEC Plymouths D shuts down WNEC
Curry vs Nichols I think Curry is tired of losing
Endicott vs UMD Endicott will win out
Salve Regina vs MIT Just picking Salve on this one

Maine Maritime vs Mass Maritime Maine's Offense keeps on a rolling
Westfield vs Framingham Westfield's D can contain Leone Question is can westfield's O score enough
Bridgewater vs Fitchburg Bridgewater has found their game and will score a bunch
Coast Gaurd vs Worcester Coin toss on this one
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Trenchmen on October 21, 2010, 10:50:49 AM
Week 8 picks:

MMA vs. MME ...  Mass. Maritime ends the streak.  Picks up huge road victory
CGA vs. Worcester ...  The Lancers will continue to pour it on the struggling Bears
Endicott vs. UMD ... Gulls take this one from the young Corsairs
Nichols vs. Curry ... Colonels climb back to .500, but Nichols will play them close
Game of Week WNEC @ PSC ... I like the Panthers to take control of the Conference
Framingham at Westfield ... Framingham trumps Owls
Salve vs. MIT ... Salve continues strong push and gets 3 in a row
Bridgewater vs. Fitchburg ... Bears easily take this one.  Its a shame to see the  Burg back as the NEFC Doormat.


Good Luck to all this week!

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on October 22, 2010, 05:19:42 PM
            Move those chains !!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: labart96 on October 24, 2010, 11:16:59 AM
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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on October 25, 2010, 09:30:26 AM
If you haven't heard Maine Maritime assistant coach Richard Dykas was killed early Sunday morning.  We graduated from Mount Ida in 2008.  Not much details in the online article, but the road that he was on has a few bad curves and this is not the first time there have been accidents on that road.  Tragic loss for everybody.


http://new.bangordailynews.com/2010/10/24/sports/football/mma-coach-killed-when-pickup-goes-airborne-crashes/
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on October 25, 2010, 09:58:17 AM
Another great weekend of football.  I was 7-1 with my picks.  Looks like we all got the WNEC-Plymouth game wrong.  So if Endicott beats WNEC does anybody know how a three-way tie gets resolved.  Head-to-head won't work.  Bur first Endicott has to beat WNEC and the way WNEC is playing that will be a real tough one to predict.  Plymouth still has a tough schedule with Salve Regina and Curry, so 3-way tie isn't guaranteed.  Anyway must win for Endicott and WNEC.

I was at the Maine Maritime vs Mass Maritime game.  Great game.  Mass Maritme looked real good on offense.  Nathan Sherr was back and he and Matt White caused Maine fits.  Mass Maritime would have been on top this year if Sherr hadn't got injured.  Like expected Maine just did the ground game and Mass did a great job slowing it down, but eventually it wears you out.  Big key in this game was Maine defense stepped it up in the second half and you could say for the first time in a while that the defense won this game for Maine.

With tie-breakers the Bogan is a two horse race between Maine and Framingham.  On paper Framingham should win out against Coast Guard and Worcester, though you never know.  Maine has Bridgewater next week and looks like Bridgewater is starting to play like was expected at the beginning of the season.  Should be a good game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan75 on October 25, 2010, 10:19:29 AM
I am sorry to hear that about Coach Dykas. That is very sad to hear. I send my condolences to his family and the Maine Maritime Academy Football team.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan75 on October 28, 2010, 09:54:08 AM
Here's my picks

WNEC over Endicott: tough prediction... but im going for wnec

Plymouth state over Salve: Not much offense in this game

Curry over UMD: Curry finally .500 for a division record

MIT over Nichols: MIT gets second win while Nichols keeps the goose egg

Framingham over Coast Guard: USCG takes a huge beating infront of their home stands

Mass Maritime over West field: This game will be closer but Mass pulls it out

Maine Maritime over Bridgewater:Bridgewater is rolling but they are still young. wont be able to stop Maine

Worcester state over Fitchburg: Fitchburg wont win another game for th season.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan75 on October 31, 2010, 09:28:49 PM
Looks like endicott will win the division and play for the conference championship unless they lose to MIT.

The WNEC kids must be dissappointed. Congrats on a great season. You guys played very well and beat some great teams.

Does anyone know which division is hosting the Championship game this year?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Hambone48 on October 31, 2010, 09:30:17 PM
Bogan hosts...looks like it might be up in Castine.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan75 on November 01, 2010, 01:53:03 PM
Curry at Plymouth St should be an exciting game. I know they would only be playing for 4th place but in the recent years this game determined the Boyd champion. I expect both teams to come out firing trying to get that last victory of the season.

Also, will this be the year Mass Maritime wins the Cranberry Bowl? MMA seems to have a stronger than usual team this year while bridgewater has a weaker than usual team. Does anyone have some history on this bowl game? How many years have they been playing in this bowl game and what is the overall record?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 07, 2010, 11:34:14 AM
Here are the ECAC Bowl-eligible teams (declared, will not play 11 games prior to the ECAC game and can finish at or above .500 in either overall or conference record):

Cortland State 8-1 (8-1)
Maine Maritime 8-1 (6-1)
Western New England 8-2 (6-1)
Framingham State 8-2 (6-1)
Norwich 8-2 (5-2)
St. John Fisher 8-2 (3-2)
Springfield 7-2 (3-2)
Mount Ida 6-3 (5-2) *
RPI 5-3 (3-2)
Hobart 5-3 (3-2)
Curry 6-4 (4-3)
Plymouth State 6-4 (4-3)
Salve Regina 6-4 (5-2)
Utica 5-4 (0-4)
Castleton State 5-4 (5-2)

* - Cannot Host

This is by far the most eligible ECAC Bowl teams we've seen declared and still alive this late in many years.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Hambone48 on November 07, 2010, 05:04:21 PM
Frank - Who do you think deserves to make the three games in the North?  Assuming no major upsets, who would you match up?  Just curious what people think about these games as it seems like there are a lot of good teams in the region who just didn't have enough to make it to the tourney.  Could be some good matchups.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 07, 2010, 05:11:17 PM
Quote from: Hambone48 on November 07, 2010, 05:04:21 PM
Frank - Who do you think deserves to make the three games in the North?  Assuming no major upsets, who would you match up?  Just curious what people think about these games as it seems like there are a lot of good teams in the region who just didn't have enough to make it to the tourney.  Could be some good matchups.

The six slots are usually filled using win/loss record first.  However, both Maine Maritime and Cortland may get into the NCAA Tourney.  Thus, with seven other teams currently at three losses or less, the cut line will probably be located somewhere in the three-loss column.  Next week's LL, ECFC and E8 results will go a long way in making that a definitive statement, though.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan75 on November 12, 2010, 07:18:57 PM
Ok... When I came back I expected some talk on this board. i mean it is the conference championship game and not one person is saying anything...Thats lame.

Anways i think i am going to make the trip all the way to castine to see this one play out. Finally get to see what MMA and Endicott has to offer! It should be a great game. Endicott has a great run defense but have not faced a powerfully and fast offense like MMA.

Endicott has the ablility to both pass and run. Could be difficult for MMA to stop both weapons!

I'm picking MMA for this one. Will have to see how things play out!

Good luck to both teams and have a great and safe game tomorrow!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUKaz00 on November 13, 2010, 04:51:54 PM
Congrats to Endicott on a thrilling win.  Perhaps the most entertaining game of the day in D-III.  How close was the final play to be a game-winning TD completion for Maritime?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on November 13, 2010, 10:56:06 PM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on November 13, 2010, 04:51:54 PM
Congrats to Endicott on a thrilling win.  Perhaps the most entertaining game of the day in D-III.  How close was the final play to be a game-winning TD completion for Maritime?

According to my wife who was at the game.  Ball was caught on final pass, but receiver was called out of bounds.  Some disagreement there I guess, but looks like a good game and either team can walk away with their heads held high regardless of what the outcome might have been.  In this case congrats to Endicott for a great season going from 5-5 last year to 9-2 this year.  Good luck in the NCAA playoff.  And for Maine Maritime, a heartbreaker, but three straight Bogan Division titles.  Hopefully they'll get an ECAC game and take it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: labart96 on November 13, 2010, 11:23:14 PM
For the second year in a row, we'll have Dr. Joy Solomen, Chair of the tournament selection committee on ITH tomorrow night - shows starts at 7:30 PM ET. 

Please post your questions on the Playoffs thread once the selections have been made so we can work them into our interview accordingly (we'll have plenty of our own, but always open to input).

You can tune into ITH - www.inthehuddLLe.com - to hear the interview with Dr. Solomen as well as catch a live reading of the ECAC match ups as we expect to get those around 8:00-30 PM ET and plan to announce them live on the show.

Given the number of NEFC teams in the mix it should be interesting for New England DIII fans.

Congrats to Endicott and good luck to Maine in the ECACs (guessing they get one of the six bids)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 14, 2010, 07:16:29 PM
Congrats Endicott ... great parity in the league this year , I love it !
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 14, 2010, 09:24:03 PM
4 North ECAC Bowls

1 North Atl - 1 Springfield hosting 8 Mt. Ida
2 Northwest - 2 SJF hosting 7 RPI
3 Northeast - 3 Norwich hosting 6 Framingham St
4 North Central - 4 W New England hosting 5 MME

3 South ECAC Bowls

1 Southwest -- 1 W&J hosting 6 F&M
2 South Atlantic -- 2 Johns Hopkins hosting 4 Leb Val
3 Southeast -- 3 Wilkes hosting 5 Moravian
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: vttanker on November 15, 2010, 11:09:51 AM
Good showing for the NEFC.  Three teams in the ECAC, though two are playing each other.  Not sure I understand that.  I would have thought that Maine vs Norwich would make sense for the NorthEast game and these two teams used to play each other.  Framingham vs WNEC would have been a battle of the NEFC division runner-ups and make more sense as the North Central game.  Anyway.

Maine vs WNEC should be a great game.  These teams in the last fours years played each other twice, split the two games.  But this game will have seniors on both squads and this will be the third meeting, so sort of a tie breaker.  In past years WNEC passed most of the time, but looks like they counted more on the run this year.  And we know what Maine likes to do.  My pick is Maine, but I'm biased as my son is a senior on the Maine team.

I think Framingham will give Norwich a challenge.  If Kurt Leone has a good passing game I can see a Framingham win, but he'll have to have a good game.  Norwich is going to run the ball and Framingham will have to keep that under control.  My pick is Framingham in a close one.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on November 15, 2010, 06:25:05 PM
Hello All:

Any Endicott fans in here?  Just curious to learn a little about your team.  Congrats on your NEFC title and NCAA bid.

Cortland Hotels / Motels:
Country Inn and Suites  607-753-8300
Hampton Inn:  607-662-0007
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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan75 on November 16, 2010, 01:34:58 PM
I would have liked to see MMA vs Norwich my self and have the two division runner ups play just as VTTANKER.

I think Framingham will do well against Norwich. Kurt Leon will play great. I'm predicting 4 td's for him alone.

WNEC has a very balanced team. They can run and pass. They have a great QB who got Offensive player of the year for the BOYD division. However, MMA did break the D3 single season rushing record! Im going to have to pick MMA again.

For the other two games i am picking Springfield hands down over mount ida. Probably wont even be close. I am pick SJF over RPI as well. Springfield and SJF are two of the top teams in the empire 8 which i would consider top 5 conference in the nation.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 19, 2010, 03:22:48 PM
Good Luck Gulls !!!!!!! Make us proud
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rams1102 on March 15, 2011, 01:23:08 PM
As a Montclair fan, we open up with Salve Regina at home. On paper their "D" appears to be good and their "O" is iffy. Any thoughts even though it is early?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on April 13, 2011, 11:42:36 AM
Random Question from me...  Does anyone know the Endicott 2011 schedule?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on April 19, 2011, 04:17:00 PM
Salve has 9 out of 11 starters back on D which was the best in the NEFC last year. From the looks of it though, the two starters who graduated are Jenks and Fall who both were good ballplayers. The offense is iffy at best but it looks like they have some good size up front.

Lewdogg - i know Endicott has played RPI the last couple years, but i'm not sure if they are again this year. From the looks of their roster from last year, they should be stacked since most of the roster is coming back, and could very well beat RPI if they played.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: labart96 on April 19, 2011, 04:36:44 PM
RPI is not playing Endicott this fall.  They have Castleton State on their schedule on 9/17.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on April 19, 2011, 04:51:30 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on April 19, 2011, 04:17:00 PM
Salve has 9 out of 11 starters back on D which was the best in the NEFC last year. From the looks of it though, the two starters who graduated are Jenks and Fall who both were good ballplayers. The offense is iffy at best but it looks like they have some good size up front.

Lewdogg - i know Endicott has played RPI the last couple years, but i'm not sure if they are again this year. From the looks of their roster from last year, they should be stacked since most of the roster is coming back, and could very well beat RPI if they played.

I know they are not playing RPI.  RPI has a schedule out.  I live 10 minutes from Endicott now, so I was just looking for a schedule.  I'd like to get to a few games.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: labart96 on April 19, 2011, 05:23:39 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on April 19, 2011, 04:51:30 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on April 19, 2011, 04:17:00 PM
Salve has 9 out of 11 starters back on D which was the best in the NEFC last year. From the looks of it though, the two starters who graduated are Jenks and Fall who both were good ballplayers. The offense is iffy at best but it looks like they have some good size up front.

Lewdogg - i know Endicott has played RPI the last couple years, but i'm not sure if they are again this year. From the looks of their roster from last year, they should be stacked since most of the roster is coming back, and could very well beat RPI if they played.

I know they are not playing RPI.  RPI has a schedule out.  I live 10 minutes from Endicott now, so I was just looking for a schedule.  I'd like to get to a few games.

I would try and check out tomorrow night's epic battle between Endicott's "Petite Giraffe" against team "Beastmode":

Gulls Arena Football 2011 Schedule (http://www.ecgulls.com/documents/2011/4/4/2011_Arena_Football_Schedule.pdf)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AZDutchman on April 24, 2011, 11:34:06 PM
My son will be joining the MIT Engineers this fall. I'm looking forward to a great season with the rest of the teams and fans in this conference. I have another son playing for the Central Dutch in Iowa. I can't wait for the seasons to start!  8-)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on June 13, 2011, 09:42:19 PM
My son was recruited by a couple teams here.  I will say, the Salve coach was at the top of my list in this league.  He was upbeat, positive and very believable.  I see him turning this program around.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FBP on June 25, 2011, 09:43:01 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on June 13, 2011, 09:42:19 PM
My son was recruited by a couple teams here.  I will say, the Salve coach was at the top of my list in this league.  He was upbeat, positive and very believable.  I see him turning this program around.



My son is going to Salve and we felt the same about the coach.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on June 26, 2011, 12:09:06 PM
My son ended up going to Lake Forest College.  Another upbeat positive coach.  After he made his choice, some of the other coaches showed thier true colors.....Chesne stayed on course.  Congradulating him and wishing him good luck.  I hope he does well.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on June 26, 2011, 09:40:41 PM
Gang,

On the UAA board, there was talk of the UAA adding teams, and the names that came up were MIT and Tufts.

Would any fans of the two schools here care to comment on that?

Would either school be willing to leave their New England rivals behind to join the UAA, a conference which consists of other urban private research universities?

Just wondered what you folks thought.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on June 27, 2011, 08:38:06 AM
Quote from: JagranSpartan on June 26, 2011, 09:40:41 PM
Gang,

On the UAA board, there was talk of the UAA adding teams, and the names that came up were MIT and Tufts.

Would any fans of the two schools here care to comment on that?

Would either school be willing to leave their New England rivals behind to join the UAA, a conference which consists of other urban private research universities?

Just wondered what you folks thought.

MIT is going to have no interest in leaving any of their conferences.  Athletics is truly secondary there, and they are going to see no need to join a conference with teams from across the country just because those schools have similar academic programs.  This would include the nescac, which like the Ivy league schools shows a serious interest in their athletic programs.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on June 27, 2011, 11:16:35 AM
Don't see Tufts leaving the NESCAC at all.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on July 16, 2011, 02:31:45 AM
Johnny Utah,

Academics also truly come first in the UAA.  In addition to being the ONLY intercollegiate sports conference in the country in which every school is a member of the Association of American Universities (AAU), we're also the only conference in the country other than the Ivy League in which every school is ranked in the US News Top 50.

In that regard, together with its status as an urban private research university, MIT would be a perfect fit.

The only problem, as I mentioned elsewhere, would be having to leave their regional rivals behind, but it can be done.  Case still plays many small Ohio/Pennsylvania liberal arts colleges, even though it left the NCAC years ago.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AZDutchman on July 17, 2011, 11:14:23 AM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on June 27, 2011, 08:38:06 AM
Quote from: JagranSpartan on June 26, 2011, 09:40:41 PM
Gang,

On the UAA board, there was talk of the UAA adding teams, and the names that came up were MIT and Tufts.

Would any fans of the two schools here care to comment on that?

Would either school be willing to leave their New England rivals behind to join the UAA, a conference which consists of other urban private research universities?

Just wondered what you folks thought.

MIT is going to have no interest in leaving any of their conferences.  Athletics is truly secondary there, and they are going to see no need to join a conference with teams from across the country just because those schools have similar academic programs.  This would include the nescac, which like the Ivy league schools shows a serious interest in their athletic programs.

I would have to agree with Jonny U. I'm new to this conference, but I couldn't possible see MIT changing.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on July 18, 2011, 10:03:24 AM
Quote from: JagranSpartan on July 16, 2011, 02:31:45 AM
Johnny Utah,

Academics also truly come first in the UAA.  In addition to being the ONLY intercollegiate sports conference in the country in which every school is a member of the Association of American Universities (AAU), we're also the only conference in the country other than the Ivy League in which every school is ranked in the US News Top 50.

In that regard, together with its status as an urban private research university, MIT would be a perfect fit.

The only problem, as I mentioned elsewhere, would be having to leave their regional rivals behind, but it can be done.  Case still plays many small Ohio/Pennsylvania liberal arts colleges, even though it left the NCAC years ago.

Well that was part of my point.  MIT doesn't care where its athletic conference partners rank in the US News top anything.  Why spend money flying a basketball team to St. Louis, MO when they can take a bus or van to every one of their games.

Where your football rival ranks in the top 50 academic schools doesn't really have anything to do with your school, academic programs or athletic programs.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AZDutchman on July 18, 2011, 12:08:25 PM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on July 18, 2011, 10:03:24 AM
Quote from: JagranSpartan on July 16, 2011, 02:31:45 AM
Johnny Utah,

Academics also truly come first in the UAA.  In addition to being the ONLY intercollegiate sports conference in the country in which every school is a member of the Association of American Universities (AAU), we're also the only conference in the country other than the Ivy League in which every school is ranked in the US News Top 50.

In that regard, together with its status as an urban private research university, MIT would be a perfect fit.

The only problem, as I mentioned elsewhere, would be having to leave their regional rivals behind, but it can be done.  Case still plays many small Ohio/Pennsylvania liberal arts colleges, even though it left the NCAC years ago.

Well that was part of my point.  MIT doesn't care where its athletic conference partners rank in the US News top anything.  Why spend money flying a basketball team to St. Louis, MO when they can take a bus or van to every one of their games.

Where your football rival ranks in the top 50 academic schools doesn't really have anything to do with your school, academic programs or athletic programs.

I couldn't have said it better myself.
Title: 2011 season
Post by: FOOTBALL1980 on August 10, 2011, 04:37:32 PM
This should be a competitive year in the NEFC!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FOOTBALL1980 on August 10, 2011, 04:41:22 PM
M.I.T. is in the only conference it could be besides NESCAC....which is athletically too competitive for them.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on August 10, 2011, 04:52:45 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL1980 on August 10, 2011, 04:41:22 PM
M.I.T. is in the only conference it could be besides NESCAC....which is athletically too competitive for them.

Based on what evidence?

;D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FOOTBALL1980 on August 10, 2011, 04:57:49 PM
Their athletic budget, emphasis on competitive athletics, student body....compare their SAT scores to the rest of New England DIII schools...even though Forbes ranked them 9th nationally recently. (Williams 1st, Amherst 4th)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on August 10, 2011, 11:36:06 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL1980 on August 10, 2011, 04:57:49 PM
Their athletic budget, emphasis on competitive athletics, student body....compare their SAT scores to the rest of New England DIII schools...even though Forbes ranked them 9th nationally recently. (Williams 1st, Amherst 4th)

But there is ZERO evidence that MIT couldn't compete in the NESCAC.  Unless you are amazing at the 'eye test'. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FOOTBALL1980 on August 11, 2011, 06:06:28 AM
Historically they don't compete in the NEFC, what makes anyone think they could do well in a better league like the NESCAC?  By the way my eyes aren't bad
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on August 11, 2011, 11:02:10 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL1980 on August 11, 2011, 06:06:28 AM
Historically they don't compete in the NEFC, what makes anyone think they could do well in a better league like the NESCAC?  By the way my eyes aren't bad

There is ZERO evidence that the NESCAC is a better league. Pure theory and speculation...not science. I only deal in science.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on August 12, 2011, 02:09:01 AM
This is one of those legal cases in which you can't prove or disprove the negative since the NESCAC retains their closed door policy.  You're barking at the wolves here, Lew.  Come back to the LL-side where we can actually compare teams based on head-to-head performances.  When the NESCAC finally decides to open up the floodgates (probably around the same time the FBS adopts a real championship system), we can revisit this discussion.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AZDutchman on August 12, 2011, 02:14:27 AM
Is the NESCAC a better league than NEFC?
So many times this questions comes up between competitive conferences.

MIT is in the NEFC and I believe that this year (along with past years) they will be competitive inside their own conference. I don't think it's correct to say that historically they don't compete in the NEFC. Every team that steps out on the field will compete against their opponent. Will they win their conference, have %500 record or end up 1-9? I guess that's why they play the games.... To find out what the season is going to bring.

I'm looking forward to the first game. It would be great to see a W, but seeing some great competition/football is what I'm looking forward to.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FOOTBALL1980 on August 12, 2011, 09:08:40 AM
M.I.T.s overall record of 68-132-1 is not theory.  The NESCAC is a self-contained league making a head to head comparison somewhat theoretical in nature.  From what I know and have witnessed, the top teams in the NEFC could compete in the NESCAC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AZDutchman on August 13, 2011, 03:51:44 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL1980 on August 12, 2011, 09:08:40 AM
M.I.T.s overall record of 68-132-1 is not theory.  The NESCAC is a self-contained league making a head to head comparison somewhat theoretical in nature.  From what I know and have witnessed, the top teams in the NEFC could compete in the NESCAC.

I understand where you're coming from. I was just trying to look at the positive aspect.
For example..68 wins. I look at that as something to build on.  8-)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: softballrz on August 13, 2011, 11:45:20 PM
One week before camp starts and I have yet to see pre season rankings.  With most of thier starters returning I can't see anyone knocking off Endicott in the Boyd.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on August 14, 2011, 12:16:33 AM
I know.  Especially with that offensive line!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on August 25, 2011, 11:47:43 PM
ANYONE INTERESTED IN BEING PART OF THE 2011 TOP 25 FAN POLL, PLEASE SEND ME A MESSAGE WITH YOUR CURRENT EMAIL ADDRESS. Now that Kickoff is out, I'd like to get our first poll out by the middle of next week.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on September 03, 2011, 03:06:45 PM
Congratulations to Salve Regina for their home victory today over the Union College Dutchmen. Salve played with heart and fought for the victory the whole way through.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on September 03, 2011, 05:33:21 PM
Congratulations to Salve Regina.  As I just posted in the LLPP, it was one of the most exciting fourth quarters of football I've ever witnessed.  Good luck the rest of the season.  Here's a clip from our WABY radio broadcast of the Moore kick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGwpHboTMDk
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on September 04, 2011, 09:00:34 PM
Congrats to Coach Chesney and Salve Regina.  He is one top notch coach.  When he was recruiting my son, I really got to like him.  Very honest and upbeat.  And even when my son chose another school, while we had 5 other coaches try to scramble to get him back, and then become very negative about his choice, Coach Chesney was the only one to call him up and wish him luck.  Hope you have a great season Salve!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: softballrz on September 06, 2011, 11:32:06 PM
interesting week one.  Is SR that strong and what of PS.  Framingham looked weaker then rated or is Endicott still at the top?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on September 08, 2011, 12:33:56 PM
Thanks to Union for helping provide the video, here's the video overlay of the Salve 49yd FG by Mark Moore from Saturday:

[EDIT: Salve actually released a version yesterday -- I edited both into one, and I've amended the YouTube address below.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTJZPwP1uMI
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on September 08, 2011, 06:03:24 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on September 08, 2011, 12:33:56 PM
Thanks to Union for helping provide the video, here's the video overlay of the Salve 49yd FG by Mark Moore from Saturday:

[EDIT: Salve actually released a version yesterday -- I edited both into one, and I've amended the YouTube address below.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTJZPwP1uMI

A great ending for Salve. dlip was/is very happy for them and their clutch victory. Have to be honest though as a Union fan that was some tough **** to listen to and watch. Off the damn bar...man o man :'(
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AZDutchman on September 11, 2011, 12:09:17 AM
Congratulations to MIT on winning their opener 35-13.  8-)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Charles on September 18, 2011, 06:08:20 AM
Endicott 13-1 in their last 14 games in NEFC. Go Gulls.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on September 18, 2011, 10:24:14 AM
was anyone at the Salve game?  Wondering how they played.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: softballrz on September 18, 2011, 06:58:03 PM
game of the this Saturday!  SR at Endicott.  Home field gets the edge in this match up.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FBP on September 19, 2011, 07:38:33 PM
Looking forward to the game.....GO SEAHAWKS!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Charles on September 25, 2011, 06:39:31 AM
EC Gulls 24 SR 17 It was a good game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: softballrz on September 27, 2011, 05:56:01 PM
2011 NEW ENGLAND DIVISION III FOOTBALL POLL

Week #2 - 9/26/11
Rank Team Record (First-Place Votes) Points Last Week's Rank
1 Endicott 4-0 (16) 210 2
2 Springfield 2-1 (1) 167 1
3 Williams 1-0 (4) 165 3
4 Maine Maritime 3-0  149 4
5 Trinity 1-0 (1) 133 T5
6 Worcester St. 4-0   127 T5
7 Amherst 1-0   94 7
8 Curry 3-1   73 10
9 Western New England 3-1   43 ARV
10 Wesleyan 1-0   13 -
Also Receiving Votes (to be listed a team must receive at least one percent of the available 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on September 28, 2011, 08:38:34 PM
Quote from: softballrz on September 27, 2011, 05:56:01 PM
2011 NEW ENGLAND DIVISION III FOOTBALL POLL

Week #2 - 9/26/11
Rank Team Record (First-Place Votes) Points Last Week's Rank
1 Endicott 4-0 (16) 210 2
2 Springfield 2-1 (1) 167 1
3 Williams 1-0 (4) 165 3
4 Maine Maritime 3-0  149 4
5 Trinity 1-0 (1) 133 T5
6 Worcester St. 4-0   127 T5
7 Amherst 1-0   94 7
8 Curry 3-1   73 10
9 Western New England 3-1   43 ARV
10 Wesleyan 1-0   13 -
Also Receiving Votes (to be listed a team must receive at least one percent of the available

It's nice to see the NEFC heating up with an early season face-off between Salve and Endicott. Endicott gets the W and seems as if they may be a pretty darn good club. Congrats to the Gulls. On a side note, dlip posted this on the ERFP thread in reaction to the NE Poll, he thinks Springfield would take Endicott to the wood shed (....maybe even two times over) and should have received the #1 ranking. Yet dlip would still like to see these two face off to see how the Gulls would fare against the Pride.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: softballrz on September 28, 2011, 10:10:30 PM
ec vs curry this sat night.  winner should take the nefc. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Charles on October 02, 2011, 06:35:13 AM
Endicott beat Curry last night 55-7. Go Gulls.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on October 04, 2011, 08:32:58 AM
Did everyone miss me?!

What happened to this room? This used to be the forum of epic word battles during the week, and the place for "I told you so" after the big Saturday wins. I'm a bit removed from my days of playing at EC but I would still love to give coach Wells an "atta boy" for what he has done with that program, taking them from zero to hero.

Let's get a little chatter going in here! I'm not too sure about the Bogan side of things, but from what I have seen, no one wants to step up and take ownership of the lead

Congrats to EC for getting some votes for the top 25. I am a little worried they could get a big head by playing a pair of NEFC teams early in the season instead of branching out, but only time will tell.

I've seen a couple of scores that had Plymouth State and Curry on the losing end. Are they in down years, or just a bad day?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 05, 2011, 08:30:53 PM
Salve Regina is the best team in the country with 3 losses.  They will be climbing the ladder the next couple weeks.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Charles on October 06, 2011, 08:48:43 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on October 05, 2011, 08:30:53 PM
Salve Regina is the best team in the country with 3 losses.  They will be climbing the ladder the next couple weeks.

let's see how they do against U-MAss Dartmouth, Plymouth State, or Curry.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on October 06, 2011, 08:51:57 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on October 05, 2011, 08:30:53 PM
Salve Regina is the best team in the country with 3 losses.  They will be climbing the ladder the next couple weeks.

I'd rather be the worst team in the country with zero losses at this point....just saying...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 09, 2011, 06:11:12 AM
Guess Salve took care of business this weekend guys. 

By the way,  I'm just following them from afar cuz I really like the coach.  My son plays for another school, but we really liked him during recruiting.

Like I said, watch them.  They're heading in the right direction..,....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 13, 2011, 06:49:16 PM
Should be a good game at Curry this week.  We should see who is moving up and who is moving down.  My mony is on Salve Regina.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 15, 2011, 05:13:27 PM
Salve Regina handles Curry with ease.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on October 16, 2011, 12:55:43 AM
So who does everyone think the favorite is for the Admiral's Cup?

Looks like it'll be a good one like last year. Best of luck to both teams.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: softballrz on October 16, 2011, 09:32:54 AM
if things play out, the game of the year is wnec vs Endicott oct 29th.  winner should take it all. 

yesterday's win by Endicott over psu was the first for this group of seniors.  Congratulations! 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 23, 2011, 05:52:50 AM
Another win for Salve over MIT.  Nice Job!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: softballrz on October 25, 2011, 10:09:36 PM
very large game this weekend in Springfield.  Winner will take the nefc over Framingham and a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament.  Loser gets a bowl bid.  Anyword on the health of both teams going into Saturday?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 08:20:14 AM
Quote from: softballrz on October 25, 2011, 10:09:36 PM
very large game this weekend in Springfield.  Winner will take the nefc over Framingham and a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament.  Loser gets a bowl bid.  Anyword on the health of both teams going into Saturday?

Out of curiosity...and only asking because you are relatively new to the boards...what do you mean by "a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament"? There are only 32 teams total invited to the tournament, which breaks down to 8 teams per four regions.  Even if Endicott stays undefeated...they can hope for at best a #4 regional seed our of 8 teams, simply based on the committee being lazy (in my opinion) and looking at total losses vs. who the 8 teams have played.  There aren't any 10 or 11 seeds.  The East would be too top heavy for Endicott, even if undefeated, to go any higher than a #4 seed in the East...and in all likelihood, probably a #5 seed.  Not all of the following teams will be in the East (at least 4 of the 5 will), but the following are contenders to be in the East Region...Mount Union (likely), Salisbury (50-50 at best), Delaware Valley, Hobart, and a 1-loss NJAC champion (assuming there is one).  In reality, every league champion from the E8, LL, NJAC, and MAC are going to get a higher seed then an undefeated Endicott if they have one loss, or less.  You can thank SUNY-Maritime's debacle from last year for that one...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Charles on October 26, 2011, 08:58:34 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 08:20:14 AM
Quote from: softballrz on October 25, 2011, 10:09:36 PM
very large game this weekend in Springfield.  Winner will take the nefc over Framingham and a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament.  Loser gets a bowl bid.  Anyword on the health of both teams going into Saturday?

Out of curiosity...and only asking because you are relatively new to the boards...what do you mean by "a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament"? There are only 32 teams total invited to the tournament, which breaks down to 8 teams per four regions.  Even if Endicott stays undefeated...they can hope for at best a #4 regional seed our of 8 teams, simply based on the committee being lazy (in my opinion) and looking at total losses vs. who the 8 teams have played.  There aren't any 10 or 11 seeds.  The East would be too top heavy for Endicott, even if undefeated, to go any higher than a #4 seed in the East...and in all likelihood, probably a #5 seed.  Not all of the following teams will be in the East (at least 4 of the 5 will), but the following are contenders to be in the East Region...Mount Union (likely), Salisbury (50-50 at best), Delaware Valley, Hobart, and a 1-loss NJAC champion (assuming there is one).  In reality, every league champion from the E8, LL, NJAC, and MAC are going to get a higher seed then an undefeated Endicott if they have one loss, or less.  You can thank SUNY-Maritime's debacle from last year for that one...
Endicott has to win this weekend and beat the Bogan champs in two weeks to get the auto bid. I think if they run the table they would at best get a 4 seed and maybe a home game?? 1 loss (and neither this week or in three weeks) probably drops them to a 5 seed and a loss this week or in 3 weeks probably doesn't even get them in.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 26, 2011, 09:26:13 AM
Quote from: Charles on October 26, 2011, 08:58:34 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 08:20:14 AM
Quote from: softballrz on October 25, 2011, 10:09:36 PM
very large game this weekend in Springfield.  Winner will take the nefc over Framingham and a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament.  Loser gets a bowl bid.  Anyword on the health of both teams going into Saturday?

Out of curiosity...and only asking because you are relatively new to the boards...what do you mean by "a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament"? There are only 32 teams total invited to the tournament, which breaks down to 8 teams per four regions.  Even if Endicott stays undefeated...they can hope for at best a #4 regional seed our of 8 teams, simply based on the committee being lazy (in my opinion) and looking at total losses vs. who the 8 teams have played.  There aren't any 10 or 11 seeds.  The East would be too top heavy for Endicott, even if undefeated, to go any higher than a #4 seed in the East...and in all likelihood, probably a #5 seed.  Not all of the following teams will be in the East (at least 4 of the 5 will), but the following are contenders to be in the East Region...Mount Union (likely), Salisbury (50-50 at best), Delaware Valley, Hobart, and a 1-loss NJAC champion (assuming there is one).  In reality, every league champion from the E8, LL, NJAC, and MAC are going to get a higher seed then an undefeated Endicott if they have one loss, or less.  You can thank SUNY-Maritime's debacle from last year for that one...
Endicott has to win this weekend and beat the Bogan champs in two weeks to get the auto bid. I think if they run the table they would at best get a 4 seed and maybe a home game?? 1 loss (and neither this week or in three weeks) probably drops them to a 5 seed and a loss this week or in 3 weeks probably doesn't even get them in.

An NEFC team with 1 loss likely gets a 7 or 8 seed.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 09:41:15 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 26, 2011, 09:26:13 AM
Quote from: Charles on October 26, 2011, 08:58:34 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 08:20:14 AM
Quote from: softballrz on October 25, 2011, 10:09:36 PM
very large game this weekend in Springfield.  Winner will take the nefc over Framingham and a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament.  Loser gets a bowl bid.  Anyword on the health of both teams going into Saturday?

Out of curiosity...and only asking because you are relatively new to the boards...what do you mean by "a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament"? There are only 32 teams total invited to the tournament, which breaks down to 8 teams per four regions.  Even if Endicott stays undefeated...they can hope for at best a #4 regional seed our of 8 teams, simply based on the committee being lazy (in my opinion) and looking at total losses vs. who the 8 teams have played.  There aren't any 10 or 11 seeds.  The East would be too top heavy for Endicott, even if undefeated, to go any higher than a #4 seed in the East...and in all likelihood, probably a #5 seed.  Not all of the following teams will be in the East (at least 4 of the 5 will), but the following are contenders to be in the East Region...Mount Union (likely), Salisbury (50-50 at best), Delaware Valley, Hobart, and a 1-loss NJAC champion (assuming there is one).  In reality, every league champion from the E8, LL, NJAC, and MAC are going to get a higher seed then an undefeated Endicott if they have one loss, or less.  You can thank SUNY-Maritime's debacle from last year for that one...
Endicott has to win this weekend and beat the Bogan champs in two weeks to get the auto bid. I think if they run the table they would at best get a 4 seed and maybe a home game?? 1 loss (and neither this week or in three weeks) probably drops them to a 5 seed and a loss this week or in 3 weeks probably doesn't even get them in.

An NEFC team with 1 loss likely gets a 7 or 8 seed.

I am with LD...if the winner of Endicott/WNEC lose their last regular season game (Endicott to MIT, or WNEC to Mass-Dartmouth) but win the NEFC Championship game, you will get a #7 or #8 seed.  A one-loss NEFC team will probably get a higher seed then the ECFC Pool A rep...but with one loss, that is about it.  Even the Pool C entry will get ranked higher than a one-loss NEFC team at that point.  The NEFC isn't getting two teams in this year (or in reality, maybe ever again).  Whoever losses the Endicott/WNEC is out of the tournament.  If Endicott beats WNEC and MIT, but losses in the NEFC title game (to presumably Framingham State)...Endicott still won't make the NCAA's.

Bottom line...in order for WNEC or Endicott to get in, they have to win this weekend and in the NEFC title game.  Winner of this weekend's game (WNEC and Endicott) can technically afford a loss in the last week of the regular season...but that is it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 26, 2011, 09:50:32 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 09:41:15 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 26, 2011, 09:26:13 AM
Quote from: Charles on October 26, 2011, 08:58:34 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 08:20:14 AM
Quote from: softballrz on October 25, 2011, 10:09:36 PM
very large game this weekend in Springfield.  Winner will take the nefc over Framingham and a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament.  Loser gets a bowl bid.  Anyword on the health of both teams going into Saturday?

Out of curiosity...and only asking because you are relatively new to the boards...what do you mean by "a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament"? There are only 32 teams total invited to the tournament, which breaks down to 8 teams per four regions.  Even if Endicott stays undefeated...they can hope for at best a #4 regional seed our of 8 teams, simply based on the committee being lazy (in my opinion) and looking at total losses vs. who the 8 teams have played.  There aren't any 10 or 11 seeds.  The East would be too top heavy for Endicott, even if undefeated, to go any higher than a #4 seed in the East...and in all likelihood, probably a #5 seed.  Not all of the following teams will be in the East (at least 4 of the 5 will), but the following are contenders to be in the East Region...Mount Union (likely), Salisbury (50-50 at best), Delaware Valley, Hobart, and a 1-loss NJAC champion (assuming there is one).  In reality, every league champion from the E8, LL, NJAC, and MAC are going to get a higher seed then an undefeated Endicott if they have one loss, or less.  You can thank SUNY-Maritime's debacle from last year for that one...
Endicott has to win this weekend and beat the Bogan champs in two weeks to get the auto bid. I think if they run the table they would at best get a 4 seed and maybe a home game?? 1 loss (and neither this week or in three weeks) probably drops them to a 5 seed and a loss this week or in 3 weeks probably doesn't even get them in.

An NEFC team with 1 loss likely gets a 7 or 8 seed.

I am with LD...if the winner of Endicott/WNEC lose their last regular season game (Endicott to MIT, or WNEC to Mass-Dartmouth) but win the NEFC Championship game, you will get a #7 or #8 seed.  A one-loss NEFC team will probably get a higher seed then the ECFC Pool A rep...but with one loss, that is about it.  Even the Pool C entry will get ranked higher than a one-loss NEFC team at that point.  The NEFC isn't getting two teams in this year (or in reality, maybe ever again).  Whoever losses the Endicott/WNEC is out of the tournament.  If Endicott beats WNEC and MIT, but losses in the NEFC title game (to presumably Framingham State)...Endicott still won't make the NCAA's.

Bottom line...in order for WNEC or Endicott to get in, they have to win this weekend and in the NEFC title game.  Winner of this weekend's game (WNEC and Endicott) can technically afford a loss in the last week of the regular season...but that is it.

This is spot on.  I've been agreeing with Yanks way too much lately.  Loser.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 09:54:04 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 26, 2011, 09:50:32 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 09:41:15 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 26, 2011, 09:26:13 AM
Quote from: Charles on October 26, 2011, 08:58:34 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 08:20:14 AM
Quote from: softballrz on October 25, 2011, 10:09:36 PM
very large game this weekend in Springfield.  Winner will take the nefc over Framingham and a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament.  Loser gets a bowl bid.  Anyword on the health of both teams going into Saturday?

Out of curiosity...and only asking because you are relatively new to the boards...what do you mean by "a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament"? There are only 32 teams total invited to the tournament, which breaks down to 8 teams per four regions.  Even if Endicott stays undefeated...they can hope for at best a #4 regional seed our of 8 teams, simply based on the committee being lazy (in my opinion) and looking at total losses vs. who the 8 teams have played.  There aren't any 10 or 11 seeds.  The East would be too top heavy for Endicott, even if undefeated, to go any higher than a #4 seed in the East...and in all likelihood, probably a #5 seed.  Not all of the following teams will be in the East (at least 4 of the 5 will), but the following are contenders to be in the East Region...Mount Union (likely), Salisbury (50-50 at best), Delaware Valley, Hobart, and a 1-loss NJAC champion (assuming there is one).  In reality, every league champion from the E8, LL, NJAC, and MAC are going to get a higher seed then an undefeated Endicott if they have one loss, or less.  You can thank SUNY-Maritime's debacle from last year for that one...
Endicott has to win this weekend and beat the Bogan champs in two weeks to get the auto bid. I think if they run the table they would at best get a 4 seed and maybe a home game?? 1 loss (and neither this week or in three weeks) probably drops them to a 5 seed and a loss this week or in 3 weeks probably doesn't even get them in.

An NEFC team with 1 loss likely gets a 7 or 8 seed.

I am with LD...if the winner of Endicott/WNEC lose their last regular season game (Endicott to MIT, or WNEC to Mass-Dartmouth) but win the NEFC Championship game, you will get a #7 or #8 seed.  A one-loss NEFC team will probably get a higher seed then the ECFC Pool A rep...but with one loss, that is about it.  Even the Pool C entry will get ranked higher than a one-loss NEFC team at that point.  The NEFC isn't getting two teams in this year (or in reality, maybe ever again).  Whoever losses the Endicott/WNEC is out of the tournament.  If Endicott beats WNEC and MIT, but losses in the NEFC title game (to presumably Framingham State)...Endicott still won't make the NCAA's.

Bottom line...in order for WNEC or Endicott to get in, they have to win this weekend and in the NEFC title game.  Winner of this weekend's game (WNEC and Endicott) can technically afford a loss in the last week of the regular season...but that is it.

This is spot on.  I've been agreeing with Yanks way too much lately.  Loser.

Hahaha...damn it...you are right.

Maybe we can sit down and have a beer and some chicken together...maybe play a few video games...say middle of the fifth inning of a close game?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 26, 2011, 10:01:45 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 09:54:04 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 26, 2011, 09:50:32 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 09:41:15 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 26, 2011, 09:26:13 AM
Quote from: Charles on October 26, 2011, 08:58:34 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 08:20:14 AM
Quote from: softballrz on October 25, 2011, 10:09:36 PM
very large game this weekend in Springfield.  Winner will take the nefc over Framingham and a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament.  Loser gets a bowl bid.  Anyword on the health of both teams going into Saturday?

Out of curiosity...and only asking because you are relatively new to the boards...what do you mean by "a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament"? There are only 32 teams total invited to the tournament, which breaks down to 8 teams per four regions.  Even if Endicott stays undefeated...they can hope for at best a #4 regional seed our of 8 teams, simply based on the committee being lazy (in my opinion) and looking at total losses vs. who the 8 teams have played.  There aren't any 10 or 11 seeds.  The East would be too top heavy for Endicott, even if undefeated, to go any higher than a #4 seed in the East...and in all likelihood, probably a #5 seed.  Not all of the following teams will be in the East (at least 4 of the 5 will), but the following are contenders to be in the East Region...Mount Union (likely), Salisbury (50-50 at best), Delaware Valley, Hobart, and a 1-loss NJAC champion (assuming there is one).  In reality, every league champion from the E8, LL, NJAC, and MAC are going to get a higher seed then an undefeated Endicott if they have one loss, or less.  You can thank SUNY-Maritime's debacle from last year for that one...
Endicott has to win this weekend and beat the Bogan champs in two weeks to get the auto bid. I think if they run the table they would at best get a 4 seed and maybe a home game?? 1 loss (and neither this week or in three weeks) probably drops them to a 5 seed and a loss this week or in 3 weeks probably doesn't even get them in.

An NEFC team with 1 loss likely gets a 7 or 8 seed.

I am with LD...if the winner of Endicott/WNEC lose their last regular season game (Endicott to MIT, or WNEC to Mass-Dartmouth) but win the NEFC Championship game, you will get a #7 or #8 seed.  A one-loss NEFC team will probably get a higher seed then the ECFC Pool A rep...but with one loss, that is about it.  Even the Pool C entry will get ranked higher than a one-loss NEFC team at that point.  The NEFC isn't getting two teams in this year (or in reality, maybe ever again).  Whoever losses the Endicott/WNEC is out of the tournament.  If Endicott beats WNEC and MIT, but losses in the NEFC title game (to presumably Framingham State)...Endicott still won't make the NCAA's.

Bottom line...in order for WNEC or Endicott to get in, they have to win this weekend and in the NEFC title game.  Winner of this weekend's game (WNEC and Endicott) can technically afford a loss in the last week of the regular season...but that is it.

This is spot on.  I've been agreeing with Yanks way too much lately.  Loser.

Hahaha...damn it...you are right.

Maybe we can sit down and have a beer and some chicken together...maybe play a few video games...say middle of the fifth inning of a close game?

Only if they can join...

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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 10:11:30 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 26, 2011, 10:01:45 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 09:54:04 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 26, 2011, 09:50:32 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 09:41:15 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 26, 2011, 09:26:13 AM
Quote from: Charles on October 26, 2011, 08:58:34 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 26, 2011, 08:20:14 AM
Quote from: softballrz on October 25, 2011, 10:09:36 PM
very large game this weekend in Springfield.  Winner will take the nefc over Framingham and a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament.  Loser gets a bowl bid.  Anyword on the health of both teams going into Saturday?

Out of curiosity...and only asking because you are relatively new to the boards...what do you mean by "a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA tournament"? There are only 32 teams total invited to the tournament, which breaks down to 8 teams per four regions.  Even if Endicott stays undefeated...they can hope for at best a #4 regional seed our of 8 teams, simply based on the committee being lazy (in my opinion) and looking at total losses vs. who the 8 teams have played.  There aren't any 10 or 11 seeds.  The East would be too top heavy for Endicott, even if undefeated, to go any higher than a #4 seed in the East...and in all likelihood, probably a #5 seed.  Not all of the following teams will be in the East (at least 4 of the 5 will), but the following are contenders to be in the East Region...Mount Union (likely), Salisbury (50-50 at best), Delaware Valley, Hobart, and a 1-loss NJAC champion (assuming there is one).  In reality, every league champion from the E8, LL, NJAC, and MAC are going to get a higher seed then an undefeated Endicott if they have one loss, or less.  You can thank SUNY-Maritime's debacle from last year for that one...
Endicott has to win this weekend and beat the Bogan champs in two weeks to get the auto bid. I think if they run the table they would at best get a 4 seed and maybe a home game?? 1 loss (and neither this week or in three weeks) probably drops them to a 5 seed and a loss this week or in 3 weeks probably doesn't even get them in.

An NEFC team with 1 loss likely gets a 7 or 8 seed.

I am with LD...if the winner of Endicott/WNEC lose their last regular season game (Endicott to MIT, or WNEC to Mass-Dartmouth) but win the NEFC Championship game, you will get a #7 or #8 seed.  A one-loss NEFC team will probably get a higher seed then the ECFC Pool A rep...but with one loss, that is about it.  Even the Pool C entry will get ranked higher than a one-loss NEFC team at that point.  The NEFC isn't getting two teams in this year (or in reality, maybe ever again).  Whoever losses the Endicott/WNEC is out of the tournament.  If Endicott beats WNEC and MIT, but losses in the NEFC title game (to presumably Framingham State)...Endicott still won't make the NCAA's.

Bottom line...in order for WNEC or Endicott to get in, they have to win this weekend and in the NEFC title game.  Winner of this weekend's game (WNEC and Endicott) can technically afford a loss in the last week of the regular season...but that is it.

This is spot on.  I've been agreeing with Yanks way too much lately.  Loser.

Hahaha...damn it...you are right.

Maybe we can sit down and have a beer and some chicken together...maybe play a few video games...say middle of the fifth inning of a close game?

Only if they can join...

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Done...sweet...I'll have my people call your people...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on October 26, 2011, 10:44:45 AM
Yanks has been on a mother****ing role lately!  ;)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: softballrz on October 26, 2011, 10:59:01 AM
Took many months, but we agree.  Thier can be only one!  The NEFC winner gets the NCAA bid.  Although I can't see higher then a six seed.  Also, no way does Endicott or WNEC host a game, each field holds no more then 2K.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 26, 2011, 11:14:11 AM
Quote from: softballrz on October 26, 2011, 10:59:01 AM
Took many months, but we agree.  Thier can be only one!  The NEFC winner gets the NCAA bid.  Although I can't see higher then a six seed.  Also, no way does Endicott or WNEC host a game, each field holds no more then 2K.

If Endicott wins out, I could see them getting a 4 seed and their stadium appears to fit NCAA criteria so i'm pretty sure that wouldn't be an issue.  If the Administration didn't build a new stadium to spec they are morons, but seating 2000 is normal.  I'm actually pulling for this to happen since I live 15 minutes away and would love to see it.  I could envision an Endicott vs. the NJAC winner.  Here's how I see the East Region bracket playing out:

1.  Mount Union
2.  Delaware Valley
3.  Hobart
4.  Endicott
5.  NJAC Champ
6.  ...
7.  ECFC Champ
8.  ...

With the NJAC going at each other in the last few weeks, they could play themselves out of the mix and only send a league champ.  Same with the MAC.  If Lyco or Widener knock off Del Valley, Endicott could be seeded as high as 3.  And if that happens, I think the MAC sends 2 teams.  IF DVC wins out, Widener and Lyco then have 2 losses which is a problem.

I'm anticipating Fisher losing to Salisbury which would put them in the 2 loss category.  If Fisher knocks off Salisbury, they would likely get the 5/6 seed with the NJAC champ. 

There's a lot of football to be played and a lot of good teams will have 2 losses.  But based on recent history, i could see Endicott getting a 3 or 4 seed if they win out.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Charles on October 26, 2011, 11:22:10 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 26, 2011, 11:14:11 AM
Quote from: softballrz on October 26, 2011, 10:59:01 AM
Took many months, but we agree.  Thier can be only one!  The NEFC winner gets the NCAA bid.  Although I can't see higher then a six seed.  Also, no way does Endicott or WNEC host a game, each field holds no more then 2K.

If Endicott wins out, I could see them getting a 4 seed and their stadium appears to fit NCAA criteria so i'm pretty sure that wouldn't be an issue.  If the Administration didn't build a new stadium to spec they are morons, but seating 2000 is normal.  I'm actually pulling for this to happen since I live 15 minutes away and would love to see it.  I could envision an Endicott vs. the NJAC winner.  Here's how I see the East Region bracket playing out:

1.  Mount Union
2.  Delaware Valley
3.  Hobart
4.  Endicott
5.  NJAC Champ
6.  ...
7.  ECFC Champ
8.  ...

With the NJAC going at each other in the last few weeks, they could play themselves out of the mix and only send a league champ.  Same with the MAC.  If Lyco or Widener knock off Del Valley, Endicott could be seeded as high as 3.  And if that happens, I think the MAC sends 2 teams.  IF DVC wins out, Widener and Lyco then have 2 losses which is a problem.

I'm anticipating Fisher losing to Salisbury which would put them in the 2 loss category.  If Fisher knocks off Salisbury, they would likely get the 5/6 seed with the NJAC champ. 

There's a lot of football to be played and a lot of good teams will have 2 losses.  But based on recent history, i could see Endicott getting a 3 or 4 seed if they win out.
Endicott holds 2200
WNEC holds 1500
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 26, 2011, 11:24:16 AM
Quote from: Charles on October 26, 2011, 11:22:10 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 26, 2011, 11:14:11 AM
Quote from: softballrz on October 26, 2011, 10:59:01 AM
Took many months, but we agree.  Thier can be only one!  The NEFC winner gets the NCAA bid.  Although I can't see higher then a six seed.  Also, no way does Endicott or WNEC host a game, each field holds no more then 2K.

If Endicott wins out, I could see them getting a 4 seed and their stadium appears to fit NCAA criteria so i'm pretty sure that wouldn't be an issue.  If the Administration didn't build a new stadium to spec they are morons, but seating 2000 is normal.  I'm actually pulling for this to happen since I live 15 minutes away and would love to see it.  I could envision an Endicott vs. the NJAC winner.  Here's how I see the East Region bracket playing out:

1.  Mount Union
2.  Delaware Valley
3.  Hobart
4.  Endicott
5.  NJAC Champ
6.  ...
7.  ECFC Champ
8.  ...

With the NJAC going at each other in the last few weeks, they could play themselves out of the mix and only send a league champ.  Same with the MAC.  If Lyco or Widener knock off Del Valley, Endicott could be seeded as high as 3.  And if that happens, I think the MAC sends 2 teams.  IF DVC wins out, Widener and Lyco then have 2 losses which is a problem.

I'm anticipating Fisher losing to Salisbury which would put them in the 2 loss category.  If Fisher knocks off Salisbury, they would likely get the 5/6 seed with the NJAC champ. 

There's a lot of football to be played and a lot of good teams will have 2 losses.  But based on recent history, i could see Endicott getting a 3 or 4 seed if they win out.
Endicott holds 2200
WNEC holds 1500

I've never seen WNEC but Endicott has a nice place and I believe as long as it is set up so they can sell tickets, they would be fine.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUKaz00 on October 26, 2011, 03:43:14 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 26, 2011, 11:24:16 AM
Quote from: Charles on October 26, 2011, 11:22:10 AM
Endicott holds 2200
WNEC holds 1500

I've never seen WNEC but Endicott has a nice place and I believe as long as it is set up so they can sell tickets, they would be fine.

And they file the proper paperwork!  Alfred got the benefit of that snafu last year.  The capacity figures shouldn't be an issue.  Both of Cortland's home games last year drew fewer than 1,000 spectators, so that games aren't played because of the crowds they bring in.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: softballrz on October 28, 2011, 03:56:36 PM
The biggest game in the NEFC this year to date and it appears weather will play a part.  Rain, wind, and snow by games end.  Good luck to both WNEC and Endicott. Winner gets to host Framingham St. for the NEFC championship.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 29, 2011, 03:24:57 PM
Salve takes care of Plymouth today. 

Looks like Endicott is having trouble on a snowy field....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on October 31, 2011, 03:35:27 PM
Congrats to WNEC, big win over Endicott this past weekend. Looks like they've been doing big things in Springfield. Good luck to them the rest of the way, and hopefully in NCAA action.

With the loss Endicott obviously drops out of the NEFC lead and has a small (if any) chance at a bid to NCAAs. However, do they still have a shot at an ECAC bid, or did they schedule too many games?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUKaz00 on October 31, 2011, 04:27:45 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on October 31, 2011, 03:35:27 PM
With the loss Endicott obviously drops out of the NEFC lead and has a small (if any) chance at a bid to NCAAs. However, do they still have a shot at an ECAC bid, or did they schedule too many games?

As long as they put in for a bid, the Gulls will host an ECAC bowl.  Without the NEFC cross-over game, they'll only have played 10 games and have that 11th postseason game available (had they lost the championship they would be done barring a Pool C bid).
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 31, 2011, 07:42:13 PM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on October 31, 2011, 04:27:45 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on October 31, 2011, 03:35:27 PM
With the loss Endicott obviously drops out of the NEFC lead and has a small (if any) chance at a bid to NCAAs. However, do they still have a shot at an ECAC bid, or did they schedule too many games?

As long as they put in for a bid, the Gulls will host an ECAC bowl.  Without the NEFC cross-over game, they'll only have played 10 games and have that 11th postseason game available (had they lost the championship they would be done barring a Pool C bid).

Solely based on record, I don't think they are completely out of contention for a Pool C.  Do I think they should get it?  No, but I wouldn't be totally surprised.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Charles on November 01, 2011, 10:29:58 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 31, 2011, 07:42:13 PM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on October 31, 2011, 04:27:45 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on October 31, 2011, 03:35:27 PM
With the loss Endicott obviously drops out of the NEFC lead and has a small (if any) chance at a bid to NCAAs. However, do they still have a shot at an ECAC bid, or did they schedule too many games?

As long as they put in for a bid, the Gulls will host an ECAC bowl.  Without the NEFC cross-over game, they'll only have played 10 games and have that 11th postseason game available (had they lost the championship they would be done barring a Pool C bid).

Solely based on record, I don't think they are completely out of contention for a Pool C.  Do I think they should get it?  No, but I wouldn't be totally surprised.

Endicott could finish the season 9-1. Nationally they have the #6 defense and the #13 offense. They lost a close game in a blinding snow storm late to another 1 loss team on the road. Missed the first down with a measurement deep in WNEC territory. It was a very tough loss. They could have the top defensive player in the country as well as the top kicker. One could argue that they are the best team in New England. It is certainly possible that they get an at large bid.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on November 01, 2011, 12:28:52 PM
Quote from: Charles on November 01, 2011, 10:29:58 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 31, 2011, 07:42:13 PM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on October 31, 2011, 04:27:45 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on October 31, 2011, 03:35:27 PM
With the loss Endicott obviously drops out of the NEFC lead and has a small (if any) chance at a bid to NCAAs. However, do they still have a shot at an ECAC bid, or did they schedule too many games?

As long as they put in for a bid, the Gulls will host an ECAC bowl.  Without the NEFC cross-over game, they'll only have played 10 games and have that 11th postseason game available (had they lost the championship they would be done barring a Pool C bid).

Solely based on record, I don't think they are completely out of contention for a Pool C.  Do I think they should get it?  No, but I wouldn't be totally surprised.

Endicott could finish the season 9-1. Nationally they have the #6 defense and the #13 offense. They lost a close game in a blinding snow storm late to another 1 loss team on the road. Missed the first down with a measurement deep in WNEC territory. It was a very tough loss. They could have the top defensive player in the country as well as the top kicker. One could argue that they are the best team in New England. It is certainly possible that they get an at large bid.


I am sure you will think I am crushing Endicott simply because I am not a fan of the NEFC...but here is the reality:

1) Endicott could finish 9-1...but the reality is that they had one "tough" game to win in the NEFC, with all of their non-league games against ECFC opponents...and they didn't get it done.

2) No one will care that you have the #13 offense in the country coming from the NEFC.  They will now care less about your #6 ranked defense considering you just gave up 40 points...again...to the one "tough" team on their schedule.

3) WNEC played in the same snow storm and beat Endicott.

4) From Endicott's end, you just missed a measurement deep in WNEC's territory.  From WNEC's standpoint, they found a way to stop you.

5) No one will care that you have the top kicker in the country.

6) You might have one of the better defensive players in the country (assuming you are talking about the DE, Eagen).  That is arguable at best...he might be...but it wasn't like he was dominate enough to even garner 1st Team All-Region last year.

7) Not sure how you can argue that they are the best team in New England...as they just lost to a team who now has the same record as Endicott last week...who also happens to be from New England.


Is it "possible" that Endicott will get a Pool C bid?  I guess...but I wouldn't go as far as to say "certainly possible".  Stanger things have happened...and the committee did have that major brain cramp in 2008 and let two NEFC teams in.  I mean...who is Endicott's signature win against?  Honestly...what tough team did they beat this year?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Charles on November 01, 2011, 01:31:31 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 01, 2011, 12:28:52 PM
Quote from: Charles on November 01, 2011, 10:29:58 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 31, 2011, 07:42:13 PM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on October 31, 2011, 04:27:45 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on October 31, 2011, 03:35:27 PM
With the loss Endicott obviously drops out of the NEFC lead and has a small (if any) chance at a bid to NCAAs. However, do they still have a shot at an ECAC bid, or did they schedule too many games?

As long as they put in for a bid, the Gulls will host an ECAC bowl.  Without the NEFC cross-over game, they'll only have played 10 games and have that 11th postseason game available (had they lost the championship they would be done barring a Pool C bid).

Solely based on record, I don't think they are completely out of contention for a Pool C.  Do I think they should get it?  No, but I wouldn't be totally surprised.

Endicott could finish the season 9-1. Nationally they have the #6 defense and the #13 offense. They lost a close game in a blinding snow storm late to another 1 loss team on the road. Missed the first down with a measurement deep in WNEC territory. It was a very tough loss. They could have the top defensive player in the country as well as the top kicker. One could argue that they are the best team in New England. It is certainly possible that they get an at large bid.


I am sure you will think I am crushing Endicott simply because I am not a fan of the NEFC...but here is the reality:

1) Endicott could finish 9-1...but the reality is that they had one "tough" game to win in the NEFC, with all of their non-league games against ECFC opponents...and they didn't get it done.

2) No one will care that you have the #13 offense in the country coming from the NEFC.  They will now care less about your #6 ranked defense considering you just gave up 40 points...again...to the one "tough" team on their schedule.

3) WNEC played in the same snow storm and beat Endicott.

4) From Endicott's end, you just missed a measurement deep in WNEC's territory.  From WNEC's standpoint, they found a way to stop you.

5) No one will care that you have the top kicker in the country.

6) You might have one of the better defensive players in the country (assuming you are talking about the DE, Eagen).  That is arguable at best...he might be...but it wasn't like he was dominate enough to even garner 1st Team All-Region last year.

7) Not sure how you can argue that they are the best team in New England...as they just lost to a team who now has the same record as Endicott last week...who also happens to be from New England.


Is it "possible" that Endicott will get a Pool C bid?  I guess...but I wouldn't go as far as to say "certainly possible".  Stanger things have happened...and the committee did have that major brain cramp in 2008 and let two NEFC teams in.  I mean...who is Endicott's signature win against?  Honestly...what tough team did they beat this year?

Not sure what ECFC teams you are refering to, but I think Hartwick was the team that was beaten by Mt. Ida and Norwich, I was writing about Endicott. The NEFC continues to get tougher. Curry, WNEC, Framingham and UMASS Dartmouth are good teams that don't quit. I understand that the E8 on paper could be tougher but Endicott would surely show up to play and not go 0-5 in conference. Givining up 202 points in 5 games? Looks like a team that quit a few weeks ago.
It is unfortunate that their game on Saturday was in that storm because from what I saw they would have scored 50 easy on a dry field, but that can happen.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on November 01, 2011, 01:47:01 PM
Quote from: Charles on November 01, 2011, 01:31:31 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 01, 2011, 12:28:52 PM
Quote from: Charles on November 01, 2011, 10:29:58 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 31, 2011, 07:42:13 PM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on October 31, 2011, 04:27:45 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on October 31, 2011, 03:35:27 PM
With the loss Endicott obviously drops out of the NEFC lead and has a small (if any) chance at a bid to NCAAs. However, do they still have a shot at an ECAC bid, or did they schedule too many games?

As long as they put in for a bid, the Gulls will host an ECAC bowl.  Without the NEFC cross-over game, they'll only have played 10 games and have that 11th postseason game available (had they lost the championship they would be done barring a Pool C bid).

Solely based on record, I don't think they are completely out of contention for a Pool C.  Do I think they should get it?  No, but I wouldn't be totally surprised.

Endicott could finish the season 9-1. Nationally they have the #6 defense and the #13 offense. They lost a close game in a blinding snow storm late to another 1 loss team on the road. Missed the first down with a measurement deep in WNEC territory. It was a very tough loss. They could have the top defensive player in the country as well as the top kicker. One could argue that they are the best team in New England. It is certainly possible that they get an at large bid.


I am sure you will think I am crushing Endicott simply because I am not a fan of the NEFC...but here is the reality:

1) Endicott could finish 9-1...but the reality is that they had one "tough" game to win in the NEFC, with all of their non-league games against ECFC opponents...and they didn't get it done.

2) No one will care that you have the #13 offense in the country coming from the NEFC.  They will now care less about your #6 ranked defense considering you just gave up 40 points...again...to the one "tough" team on their schedule.

3) WNEC played in the same snow storm and beat Endicott.

4) From Endicott's end, you just missed a measurement deep in WNEC's territory.  From WNEC's standpoint, they found a way to stop you.

5) No one will care that you have the top kicker in the country.

6) You might have one of the better defensive players in the country (assuming you are talking about the DE, Eagen).  That is arguable at best...he might be...but it wasn't like he was dominate enough to even garner 1st Team All-Region last year.

7) Not sure how you can argue that they are the best team in New England...as they just lost to a team who now has the same record as Endicott last week...who also happens to be from New England.


Is it "possible" that Endicott will get a Pool C bid?  I guess...but I wouldn't go as far as to say "certainly possible".  Stanger things have happened...and the committee did have that major brain cramp in 2008 and let two NEFC teams in.  I mean...who is Endicott's signature win against?  Honestly...what tough team did they beat this year?

Not sure what ECFC teams you are refering to, but I think Hartwick was the team that was beaten by Mt. Ida and Norwich, I was writing about Endicott. The NEFC continues to get tougher. Curry, WNEC, Framingham and UMASS Dartmouth are good teams that don't quit. I understand that the E8 on paper could be tougher but Endicott would surely show up to play and not go 0-5 in conference. Givining up 202 points in 5 games? Looks like a team that quit a few weeks ago.
It is unfortunate that their game on Saturday was in that storm because from what I saw they would have scored 50 easy on a dry field, but that can happen.

Not sure why Hartwick even popped up into the conversation, as they are nowhere near the playoffs.  So your argument here is that because the Empire 8's last place team lost to Mt. Ida from the ECFC...that the NEFC really is a "good league"?  Weak...

Also...Hartwick rolled Norwich 37-14 in a game that wasn't close.  The same Norwich team that WNEC needed to score a late TD against with under 2 minutes to go in the game to secure a four point win.  Pretty good chance that WNEC is going to be your league champion.  Again...weak...

The NEFC continues to get tougher?  How?  By playing against each other only and sometimes the ECFC...or because you say so?

Thinking that the E8 is tougher then the NEFC on paper only is delusional, and apparently you haven't read any of the facts that others keep giving you.   Wake me up when Endicott beats a team...any team...that doesn't belong to the NEFC or the ECFC.

In all honesty...who would Endicott beat from the E8 this year?  Hartwick...maybe.  After that...a slight chance to make a game against Frostburg, Ithaca, and Utica.  No chance against Salisbury, Fisher, Alfred, or Springfield...

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Charles on November 01, 2011, 01:57:31 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 01, 2011, 01:47:01 PM
Quote from: Charles on November 01, 2011, 01:31:31 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 01, 2011, 12:28:52 PM
Quote from: Charles on November 01, 2011, 10:29:58 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 31, 2011, 07:42:13 PM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on October 31, 2011, 04:27:45 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on October 31, 2011, 03:35:27 PM
With the loss Endicott obviously drops out of the NEFC lead and has a small (if any) chance at a bid to NCAAs. However, do they still have a shot at an ECAC bid, or did they schedule too many games?

As long as they put in for a bid, the Gulls will host an ECAC bowl.  Without the NEFC cross-over game, they'll only have played 10 games and have that 11th postseason game available (had they lost the championship they would be done barring a Pool C bid).

Solely based on record, I don't think they are completely out of contention for a Pool C.  Do I think they should get it?  No, but I wouldn't be totally surprised.

Endicott could finish the season 9-1. Nationally they have the #6 defense and the #13 offense. They lost a close game in a blinding snow storm late to another 1 loss team on the road. Missed the first down with a measurement deep in WNEC territory. It was a very tough loss. They could have the top defensive player in the country as well as the top kicker. One could argue that they are the best team in New England. It is certainly possible that they get an at large bid.


I am sure you will think I am crushing Endicott simply because I am not a fan of the NEFC...but here is the reality:

1) Endicott could finish 9-1...but the reality is that they had one "tough" game to win in the NEFC, with all of their non-league games against ECFC opponents...and they didn't get it done.

2) No one will care that you have the #13 offense in the country coming from the NEFC.  They will now care less about your #6 ranked defense considering you just gave up 40 points...again...to the one "tough" team on their schedule.

3) WNEC played in the same snow storm and beat Endicott.

4) From Endicott's end, you just missed a measurement deep in WNEC's territory.  From WNEC's standpoint, they found a way to stop you.

5) No one will care that you have the top kicker in the country.

6) You might have one of the better defensive players in the country (assuming you are talking about the DE, Eagen).  That is arguable at best...he might be...but it wasn't like he was dominate enough to even garner 1st Team All-Region last year.

7) Not sure how you can argue that they are the best team in New England...as they just lost to a team who now has the same record as Endicott last week...who also happens to be from New England.


Is it "possible" that Endicott will get a Pool C bid?  I guess...but I wouldn't go as far as to say "certainly possible".  Stanger things have happened...and the committee did have that major brain cramp in 2008 and let two NEFC teams in.  I mean...who is Endicott's signature win against?  Honestly...what tough team did they beat this year?

Not sure what ECFC teams you are refering to, but I think Hartwick was the team that was beaten by Mt. Ida and Norwich, I was writing about Endicott. The NEFC continues to get tougher. Curry, WNEC, Framingham and UMASS Dartmouth are good teams that don't quit. I understand that the E8 on paper could be tougher but Endicott would surely show up to play and not go 0-5 in conference. Givining up 202 points in 5 games? Looks like a team that quit a few weeks ago.
It is unfortunate that their game on Saturday was in that storm because from what I saw they would have scored 50 easy on a dry field, but that can happen.

Not sure why Hartwick even popped up into the conversation, as they are nowhere near the playoffs.  So your argument here is that because the Empire 8's last place team lost to Mt. Ida from the ECFC...that the NEFC really is a "good league"?  Weak...

Also...Hartwick rolled Norwich 37-14 in a game that wasn't close.  The same Norwich team that WNEC needed to score a late TD against with under 2 minutes to go in the game to secure a four point win.  Pretty good chance that WNEC is going to be your league champion.  Again...weak...

The NEFC continues to get tougher?  How?  By playing against each other only and sometimes the ECFC...or because you say so?

Thinking that the E8 is tougher then the NEFC on paper only is delusional, and apparently you haven't read any of the facts that others keep giving you.   Wake me up when Endicott beats a team...any team...that doesn't belong to the NEFC or the ECFC.

In all honesty...who would Endicott beat from the E8 this year?  Hartwick...maybe.  After that...a slight chance to make a game against Frostburg, Ithaca, and Utica.  No chance against Salisbury, Fisher, Alfred, or Springfield...

Massey ratings have both Endicott and WNEC ranked higher than 6 of the 8 E8 teams currently. For that matter I did not say the NEFC was tougher than the E8, I just said that the NEFC teams play tough and don't quit. I have seen Springfield and Alfred and I think Endicott, Curry, WNEC and even Umass Dartmouth could beat them.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 01, 2011, 03:23:07 PM
Since the NEFC almost entirely plays solely against itself, a computer ranking such as Massey is basically useless.

It's DEFINITELY useless when considering NESCAC against the nation, but it's not much better against a virtually closed (some would say inbred) conference such as the NEFC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on November 01, 2011, 03:32:45 PM
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With the loss Endicott obviously drops out of the NEFC lead and has a small (if any) chance at a bid to NCAAs. However, do they still have a shot at an ECAC bid, or did they schedule too many games?

As long as they put in for a bid, the Gulls will host an ECAC bowl.  Without the NEFC cross-over game, they'll only have played 10 games and have that 11th postseason game available (had they lost the championship they would be done barring a Pool C bid).

Solely based on record, I don't think they are completely out of contention for a Pool C.  Do I think they should get it?  No, but I wouldn't be totally surprised.

Endicott could finish the season 9-1. Nationally they have the #6 defense and the #13 offense. They lost a close game in a blinding snow storm late to another 1 loss team on the road. Missed the first down with a measurement deep in WNEC territory. It was a very tough loss. They could have the top defensive player in the country as well as the top kicker. One could argue that they are the best team in New England. It is certainly possible that they get an at large bid.


I am sure you will think I am crushing Endicott simply because I am not a fan of the NEFC...but here is the reality:

1) Endicott could finish 9-1...but the reality is that they had one "tough" game to win in the NEFC, with all of their non-league games against ECFC opponents...and they didn't get it done.

2) No one will care that you have the #13 offense in the country coming from the NEFC.  They will now care less about your #6 ranked defense considering you just gave up 40 points...again...to the one "tough" team on their schedule.

3) WNEC played in the same snow storm and beat Endicott.

4) From Endicott's end, you just missed a measurement deep in WNEC's territory.  From WNEC's standpoint, they found a way to stop you.

5) No one will care that you have the top kicker in the country.

6) You might have one of the better defensive players in the country (assuming you are talking about the DE, Eagen).  That is arguable at best...he might be...but it wasn't like he was dominate enough to even garner 1st Team All-Region last year.

7) Not sure how you can argue that they are the best team in New England...as they just lost to a team who now has the same record as Endicott last week...who also happens to be from New England.


Is it "possible" that Endicott will get a Pool C bid?  I guess...but I wouldn't go as far as to say "certainly possible".  Stanger things have happened...and the committee did have that major brain cramp in 2008 and let two NEFC teams in.  I mean...who is Endicott's signature win against?  Honestly...what tough team did they beat this year?

Not sure what ECFC teams you are refering to, but I think Hartwick was the team that was beaten by Mt. Ida and Norwich, I was writing about Endicott. The NEFC continues to get tougher. Curry, WNEC, Framingham and UMASS Dartmouth are good teams that don't quit. I understand that the E8 on paper could be tougher but Endicott would surely show up to play and not go 0-5 in conference. Givining up 202 points in 5 games? Looks like a team that quit a few weeks ago.
It is unfortunate that their game on Saturday was in that storm because from what I saw they would have scored 50 easy on a dry field, but that can happen.

Not sure why Hartwick even popped up into the conversation, as they are nowhere near the playoffs.  So your argument here is that because the Empire 8's last place team lost to Mt. Ida from the ECFC...that the NEFC really is a "good league"?  Weak...

Also...Hartwick rolled Norwich 37-14 in a game that wasn't close.  The same Norwich team that WNEC needed to score a late TD against with under 2 minutes to go in the game to secure a four point win.  Pretty good chance that WNEC is going to be your league champion.  Again...weak...

The NEFC continues to get tougher?  How?  By playing against each other only and sometimes the ECFC...or because you say so?

Thinking that the E8 is tougher then the NEFC on paper only is delusional, and apparently you haven't read any of the facts that others keep giving you.   Wake me up when Endicott beats a team...any team...that doesn't belong to the NEFC or the ECFC.

In all honesty...who would Endicott beat from the E8 this year?  Hartwick...maybe.  After that...a slight chance to make a game against Frostburg, Ithaca, and Utica.  No chance against Salisbury, Fisher, Alfred, or Springfield...

Massey ratings have both Endicott and WNEC ranked higher than 6 of the 8 E8 teams currently. For that matter I did not say the NEFC was tougher than the E8, I just said that the NEFC teams play tough and don't quit. I have seen Springfield and Alfred and I think Endicott, Curry, WNEC and even Umass Dartmouth could beat them.

The Massey ratings are totally useless...great...you score better according to the Massey ratings then 6 of the 8 Empire 8 teams, by only playing against NEFC teams and ECFC teams.  Terrible arguement.

What team are you talking about that quit?  Hartwick?  Doubtful...overmatched...maybe.  I didn't see a team quit in four straight games when the outcome came down to the last possession/play (as it did against Mount Ida, Ithaca, Alfred, and Utica).  Against Salisbury they were overmatched (as almost everyone else is) and against Springfield they were down 21-20 at half and down 42-27 at the beginning of the 4th quarter.  Not sure how that is quitting?  What other team in the Empire 8 has quit?  Or maybe everyone quits except for NEFC teams...you know...because they are so awesome...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Charles on November 01, 2011, 03:43:59 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 01, 2011, 03:32:45 PM
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With the loss Endicott obviously drops out of the NEFC lead and has a small (if any) chance at a bid to NCAAs. However, do they still have a shot at an ECAC bid, or did they schedule too many games?

As long as they put in for a bid, the Gulls will host an ECAC bowl.  Without the NEFC cross-over game, they'll only have played 10 games and have that 11th postseason game available (had they lost the championship they would be done barring a Pool C bid).

Solely based on record, I don't think they are completely out of contention for a Pool C.  Do I think they should get it?  No, but I wouldn't be totally surprised.

Endicott could finish the season 9-1. Nationally they have the #6 defense and the #13 offense. They lost a close game in a blinding snow storm late to another 1 loss team on the road. Missed the first down with a measurement deep in WNEC territory. It was a very tough loss. They could have the top defensive player in the country as well as the top kicker. One could argue that they are the best team in New England. It is certainly possible that they get an at large bid.


I am sure you will think I am crushing Endicott simply because I am not a fan of the NEFC...but here is the reality:

1) Endicott could finish 9-1...but the reality is that they had one "tough" game to win in the NEFC, with all of their non-league games against ECFC opponents...and they didn't get it done.

2) No one will care that you have the #13 offense in the country coming from the NEFC.  They will now care less about your #6 ranked defense considering you just gave up 40 points...again...to the one "tough" team on their schedule.

3) WNEC played in the same snow storm and beat Endicott.

4) From Endicott's end, you just missed a measurement deep in WNEC's territory.  From WNEC's standpoint, they found a way to stop you.

5) No one will care that you have the top kicker in the country.

6) You might have one of the better defensive players in the country (assuming you are talking about the DE, Eagen).  That is arguable at best...he might be...but it wasn't like he was dominate enough to even garner 1st Team All-Region last year.

7) Not sure how you can argue that they are the best team in New England...as they just lost to a team who now has the same record as Endicott last week...who also happens to be from New England.


Is it "possible" that Endicott will get a Pool C bid?  I guess...but I wouldn't go as far as to say "certainly possible".  Stanger things have happened...and the committee did have that major brain cramp in 2008 and let two NEFC teams in.  I mean...who is Endicott's signature win against?  Honestly...what tough team did they beat this year?

Not sure what ECFC teams you are refering to, but I think Hartwick was the team that was beaten by Mt. Ida and Norwich, I was writing about Endicott. The NEFC continues to get tougher. Curry, WNEC, Framingham and UMASS Dartmouth are good teams that don't quit. I understand that the E8 on paper could be tougher but Endicott would surely show up to play and not go 0-5 in conference. Givining up 202 points in 5 games? Looks like a team that quit a few weeks ago.
It is unfortunate that their game on Saturday was in that storm because from what I saw they would have scored 50 easy on a dry field, but that can happen.

Not sure why Hartwick even popped up into the conversation, as they are nowhere near the playoffs.  So your argument here is that because the Empire 8's last place team lost to Mt. Ida from the ECFC...that the NEFC really is a "good league"?  Weak...

Also...Hartwick rolled Norwich 37-14 in a game that wasn't close.  The same Norwich team that WNEC needed to score a late TD against with under 2 minutes to go in the game to secure a four point win.  Pretty good chance that WNEC is going to be your league champion.  Again...weak...

The NEFC continues to get tougher?  How?  By playing against each other only and sometimes the ECFC...or because you say so?

Thinking that the E8 is tougher then the NEFC on paper only is delusional, and apparently you haven't read any of the facts that others keep giving you.   Wake me up when Endicott beats a team...any team...that doesn't belong to the NEFC or the ECFC.

In all honesty...who would Endicott beat from the E8 this year?  Hartwick...maybe.  After that...a slight chance to make a game against Frostburg, Ithaca, and Utica.  No chance against Salisbury, Fisher, Alfred, or Springfield...

Massey ratings have both Endicott and WNEC ranked higher than 6 of the 8 E8 teams currently. For that matter I did not say the NEFC was tougher than the E8, I just said that the NEFC teams play tough and don't quit. I have seen Springfield and Alfred and I think Endicott, Curry, WNEC and even Umass Dartmouth could beat them.

The Massey rartings are totally useless...great...you score better according to the Massey ratings then 6 of the 8 Empire 8 teams, by only playing against NEFC teams and ECFC teams.  Terrible arguement.

What team are you talking about that quit?  Hartwick?  Doubtful...overmatched...maybe.  I didn't see a team quit in four straight games when the the outcome came down to the last possession/play (as it did against Mount Ida, Ithaca, Alfred, and Utica).  What other team in the Empire 8 has quit?  Or maybe everyone quits except for NEFC teams...you know...because they are so awesome...

Funny I see several E8 teams have played ECFC teams, but I guess that doesn't count, right? I also see in D3 football.com that only 3 E8 teams had stronger SOS than Endicott and none stronger than Salve Regina also from the NEFC which Endicott beat. and no E8 team has a stronger oo winning percentage than Endicott. So you are wrong, again.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on November 01, 2011, 03:52:47 PM
That's the point...ECFC teams are playing E8 teams...but the NEFC isn't.  The NEFC just plays the ECFC (with a rare exception like Salve).

Again...you only have a stronger SOS because you are one of the top teams in a terrible league who only plays against each other and an even weaker league (the ECFC).  It is likely that Endicott will finish 9-1 (which puts them as one of top 3 teams in the NEFC)...but doing so against terrible competition in the NEFC and playing a god awful non-league schedule.  Utica will finish 5-5 or 6-4 and could finish 6th or 7th in their league (E8)...but their strength of schedule is a far, far superior schedule then Endicott.  Even Pat Coleman will tell you this. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 01, 2011, 03:57:13 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 01, 2011, 12:28:52 PM
Quote from: Charles on November 01, 2011, 10:29:58 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 31, 2011, 07:42:13 PM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on October 31, 2011, 04:27:45 PM
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With the loss Endicott obviously drops out of the NEFC lead and has a small (if any) chance at a bid to NCAAs. However, do they still have a shot at an ECAC bid, or did they schedule too many games?

As long as they put in for a bid, the Gulls will host an ECAC bowl.  Without the NEFC cross-over game, they'll only have played 10 games and have that 11th postseason game available (had they lost the championship they would be done barring a Pool C bid).

Solely based on record, I don't think they are completely out of contention for a Pool C.  Do I think they should get it?  No, but I wouldn't be totally surprised.

Endicott could finish the season 9-1. Nationally they have the #6 defense and the #13 offense. They lost a close game in a blinding snow storm late to another 1 loss team on the road. Missed the first down with a measurement deep in WNEC territory. It was a very tough loss. They could have the top defensive player in the country as well as the top kicker. One could argue that they are the best team in New England. It is certainly possible that they get an at large bid.


I am sure you will think I am crushing Endicott simply because I am not a fan of the NEFC...but here is the reality:

1) Endicott could finish 9-1...but the reality is that they had one "tough" game to win in the NEFC, with all of their non-league games against ECFC opponents...and they didn't get it done.

2) No one will care that you have the #13 offense in the country coming from the NEFC.  They will now care less about your #6 ranked defense considering you just gave up 40 points...again...to the one "tough" team on their schedule.

3) WNEC played in the same snow storm and beat Endicott.

4) From Endicott's end, you just missed a measurement deep in WNEC's territory.  From WNEC's standpoint, they found a way to stop you.

5) No one will care that you have the top kicker in the country.

6) You might have one of the better defensive players in the country (assuming you are talking about the DE, Eagen).  That is arguable at best...he might be...but it wasn't like he was dominate enough to even garner 1st Team All-Region last year.

7) Not sure how you can argue that they are the best team in New England...as they just lost to a team who now has the same record as Endicott last week...who also happens to be from New England.


Is it "possible" that Endicott will get a Pool C bid?  I guess...but I wouldn't go as far as to say "certainly possible".  Stanger things have happened...and the committee did have that major brain cramp in 2008 and let two NEFC teams in.  I mean...who is Endicott's signature win against?  Honestly...what tough team did they beat this year?

+K for this post.  My only half-gripe with it is about 2008.  The NEFC got 2 teams in, but the second team in was Curry who earned their spot for several years before it and they proved being worthy when they won in the playoffs.  I do not think Endicott has earned that right.  But it could happen.

And SOS means doo doo in the NEFC.  Every single team should have close to the same SOS.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on November 01, 2011, 06:43:50 PM
Quote from: Charles on November 01, 2011, 01:31:31 PM
I understand that the E8 on paper could be tougher but Endicott would surely show up to play and not go 0-5 in conference. Givining up 202 points in 5 games? Looks like a team that quit a few weeks ago.

Let me assure you, son, that if any NEFC team played in the Empire 8, they would be lucky to give up less than 200 points in five games.

I'd also point out that the Hartwick team that you're disparaging easily dispatched ECFC champ Norwich (37-14, led 37-7 before calling off the dogs), much more easily than Western New England (28-24, needed a TD with 1 min to go to win the game) did.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on November 02, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
After going to watch 5 NEFC games last year on recruiting trips and 3 Empire 8's and 1 LL, I will tell you there is a differance on talent and performance in those leagues.  And watching the schedules for 2 years it does appear that the NEFC teams tend to "hide out" within thier league.  Chesney at Salve told us he is attempting to break out of that and was going to play tougher teams when he could.  And he did that this year.  I see it as the best way to break the NEFC mold. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NjAllDay on November 02, 2011, 09:14:58 AM
Normally that is pretty accurate except the fact that Salve had the 6th hardest schedule in the country.  Endicott was the next closest team at 53.  Seems like someones got the right idea.  http://d3football.com/seasons/2011/schedule?tmpl=sos-template
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 02, 2011, 09:36:57 AM
Just like the Massey ratings, though, this is skewed because you only play among yourselves. Salve gets a boost because it actually DID go out and seek tough competition, though, and deserves some recognition for that.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on November 02, 2011, 09:39:05 AM
Quote from: NjAllDay on November 02, 2011, 09:14:58 AM
Normally that is pretty accurate except the fact that Salve had the 6th hardest schedule in the country.  Endicott was the next closest team at 53.  Seems like someones got the right idea.  http://d3football.com/seasons/2011/schedule?tmpl=sos-template

Clearly, it's flawed logic though.  No one really believes that Salve has the 6th toughest schedule in the country.  I am not railing on Salve here...because I think that is the one horse that the NEFC has that dares to venture out and away from the NEFC and ECFC schedule. 

Honestly though...does anyone besides guys in the NEFC really believe that playing 8 games in the NEFC and then venturing out to play a good Montclair team (from the NJAC) and an average Union team (from the Liberty League) is the 6th toughest schedule in the country?

As an example...Kean (from the website quoted above) has the #117th toughest schedule in the country.  Really?  The #117 toughest schedule in the country...while Salve sits there with supposedly the #6th toughest schedule?  Kean has only played...or still has to play...Wesley, Cortland, Montclair State, Rowan, and New Jersey.  Seriously...let's call Montclair a wash in this case.  But there is not a team on Salve's schedule that is tougher then Wesley, Cortland, Rowan, or New Jersey.

I know the NEFC is looking for respect here...but using the "SOS" table is a bad example.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on November 02, 2011, 09:42:45 AM
Quote from: NjAllDay on November 02, 2011, 09:14:58 AM
Normally that is pretty accurate except the fact that Salve had the 6th hardest schedule in the country.  Endicott was the next closest team at 53.  Seems like someones got the right idea.  http://d3football.com/seasons/2011/schedule?tmpl=sos-template

One has to realize that those SOS rankings are naive to how strong teams ACTUALLY are - it's merely a calculation of opponents' winning percentage.  You get about the same SOS credit for playing 6-3 Norwich that you get for playing 5-3 UW-Oshkosh (since the WIAC has to beat up on each other, the OOWP is actually pretty equal between the two).

UW-Oshkosh has the 52nd-ranked schedule in the country.  They played Mount Union in a nonconference game, plus a murderer's row of tough WIAC opponents, including the other Purple Power in UW-Whitewater.  Oshkosh is probably one of the 20-25 best teams in the Division but is 5-3 against their supposedly 52nd-ranked schedule.

Endicott has the 53rd-ranked schedule in the country and hasn't played a SINGLE GAME outside the NEFC. 

Something tells me that if Oshkosh and Endicott exchanged their supposedly equivalent schedules, Oshkosh would be undefeated and Endicott would be about 2-6, if that.

See my reasons for doubt?

+k, Yanks, you beat me to it.  I like my Oshkosh-Endicott example better though!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on November 02, 2011, 09:54:24 AM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 02, 2011, 09:42:45 AM
Quote from: NjAllDay on November 02, 2011, 09:14:58 AM
Normally that is pretty accurate except the fact that Salve had the 6th hardest schedule in the country.  Endicott was the next closest team at 53.  Seems like someones got the right idea.  http://d3football.com/seasons/2011/schedule?tmpl=sos-template

One has to realize that those SOS rankings are naive to how strong teams ACTUALLY are - it's merely a calculation of opponents' winning percentage.  You get about the same SOS credit for playing 6-3 Norwich that you get for playing 5-3 UW-Oshkosh (since the WIAC has to beat up on each other, the OOWP is actually pretty equal between the two).

UW-Oshkosh has the 52nd-ranked schedule in the country.  They played Mount Union in a nonconference game, plus a murderer's row of tough WIAC opponents, including the other Purple Power in UW-Whitewater.  Oshkosh is probably one of the 20-25 best teams in the Division but is 5-3 against their supposedly 52nd-ranked schedule.

Endicott has the 53rd-ranked schedule in the country and hasn't played a SINGLE GAME outside the NEFC. 

Something tells me that if Oshkosh and Endicott exchanged their supposedly equivalent schedules, Oshkosh would be undefeated and Endicott would be about 2-6, if that.

See my reasons for doubt?

+k, Yanks, you beat me to it.  I like my Oshkosh-Endicott example better though!

+k back...I like your example better as well...

EDIT...looks like I will have to hit you up later...I must have got you yesterday...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: zach on November 03, 2011, 10:31:53 PM
Any Ideas on who WNE/Framingham state would face in the NCAA tournament?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 03, 2011, 11:08:20 PM
Quote from: zach on November 03, 2011, 10:31:53 PM
Any Ideas on who WNE/Framingham state would face in the NCAA tournament?

My guess would be Mt Union, Delaware Valley, or Hobart.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Upstate on November 03, 2011, 11:24:00 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 03, 2011, 11:08:20 PM
Quote from: zach on November 03, 2011, 10:31:53 PM
Any Ideas on who WNE/Framingham state would face in the NCAA tournament?

My guess would be Mt Union, Delaware Valley, or Hobart.

UMU is over the 500 mile limit for both WNE & Framingham.

Could definitely see Bart/DVC though!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Timz81 on November 04, 2011, 11:10:52 AM
Congratulations to Coach Skip Bandini and the Curry Staff on being named the 2011 D3 Senior Classic North team coaches!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: softballrz on November 04, 2011, 07:04:58 PM
Been off the grid this past week.  WNEC has a large D line and speed, which caused Endicott issues all day.  All season Endicott has had kick off and punt cover issues and it showed Saturday.  Good luck to both the rest of the way.  Can't see Framingham St. putting up much of a fight in the NEFC final.  WNEC does need to look at Umass Dart. tomorrow.  They can match the speed and has some size at tackle.  It is a game to watch.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Findtheball on November 05, 2011, 10:40:37 AM
Good luck to all... this (for most) being the last football game in their adult life..... have fun ... Good luck!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: DanPadavona on November 05, 2011, 11:58:29 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 02, 2011, 09:36:57 AM
Just like the Massey ratings, though, this is skewed because you only play among yourselves. Salve gets a boost because it actually DID go out and seek tough competition, though, and deserves some recognition for that.

Right.  The SOS calculation is simplistic and has no way to intrinsically seek linkages on a national basis.  An iterative computer rating function can attempt to create linkages. Endicott played Salve Regina, Salve played Montclair, Montclair will play Kean, Kean played Wesley, Wesley played East Texas Baptist. In theory you can compare Endicott to East Texas Baptist through such a function.

The problem is iterative rating functions don't work so well in D3, or at least they don't work as well as they do in the D1/BCS. First, there are more teams in D3 to run comparisons on. Second, and most important, the much larger budgets of D1/BCS allow Syracuse to play USC, and Boise State to play VA Tech for instance. It isn't likely you will see too many games between Redlands and SUNY Maritime. The lack of meaningful regional cross-over games greatly robs the iterative function of the data it needs.

More NEFC fans need to follow D3 on a national basis. Suggesting Salve has the 6th strongest schedule in D3 lacks perspective. The WIAC, top-to-bottom, is traditionally the strongest conference. I don't think there is much of a chance that any NEFC could hope to win more than 1 or 2 games per season in the WIAC. It's a whole other level of football. Watch some games online and see if you don't agree.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on November 06, 2011, 07:50:31 PM
While my only connection to the NEFC is a couple teams that were talking to my son the last couple years, I will say this.  Congrats to Salve Regina in a respectable year and taking the chance of taking the ship out of the harbor!  This is the only way your teams will be able to get any respect.  That or going into the d3's and winning a couple games after the opening round.

Teams like Endicott or WNEC can feel great about their seasons and pat each other on the back.  But if you want anyone to look you in the face and show any concern will be to try and do the same.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Charles on November 07, 2011, 08:50:31 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on November 06, 2011, 07:50:31 PM
While my only connection to the NEFC is a couple teams that were talking to my son the last couple years, I will say this.  Congrats to Salve Regina in a respectable year and taking the chance of taking the ship out of the harbor!  This is the only way your teams will be able to get any respect.  That or going into the d3's and winning a couple games after the opening round.

Teams like Endicott or WNEC can feel great about their seasons and pat each other on the back.  But if you want anyone to look you in the face and show any concern will be to try and do the same.
Salve was beat by both Endicott and WNEC, they sure could have used your son at fullback. Guessing that Michigan was the better choice, congrats.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on November 07, 2011, 10:22:55 AM
Michigan?

He's in Ill., close but not Michigan.

Not sure if that was a jab or not.  But he's doing pretty good where he's at.  I'm sure he would have helped Salve if he went there. 


Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 07, 2011, 10:24:14 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on November 07, 2011, 10:22:55 AM
Michigan?

He's in Ill., close but not Michigan.

Not sure if that was a jab or not.  But he's doing pretty good where he's at.  I'm sure he would have helped Salve if he went there.

It was a jab.  Charles is a sour dude.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Charles on November 07, 2011, 10:31:21 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 07, 2011, 10:24:14 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on November 07, 2011, 10:22:55 AM
Michigan?

He's in Ill., close but not Michigan.

Not sure if that was a jab or not.  But he's doing pretty good where he's at.  I'm sure he would have helped Salve if he went there.

It was a jab.  Charles is a sour dude.
Sour dude? You are funny "lewdogg"!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on November 07, 2011, 10:44:21 AM
I just looked at his older posts.  I would agree about the sourness.....

He jabbed me one other time too and I didn't even notice it.  Ouch, please stop.

There is a definate difference in the play from league to league.  NEFC is not up the the Empire 8 or Liberty League.  I've watched games during the last two years from the following schools, Springfield, Hobart, Salve, Endicott, Curry, Ithaca, and numerous games now from the MWC.  Sorry, but there is a definate difference.  Springfield, Hobart and Ithaca would beat Endicott IMHO pretty handily.  After going on recruiting trips to all those schools, I would have to say the the NEFC teams are at a serious disadvantage due to facilities and support from the school.  Endicott shared one field for practice with both mens and womans soccor and at times had to practice until 10pm at night under the lights.  That or 6am practices as I remember.  Salve used a high school field 5 miles away from the school.  I'm sure that turned away many recruits.  The lifting gyms were very limited in size and equipment at both schools.  Ever see Springfields facilities?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 07, 2011, 10:49:38 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on November 07, 2011, 10:44:21 AM
I just looked at his older posts.  I would agree about the sourness.....

He jabbed me one other time too and I didn't even notice it.  Ouch, please stop.

There is a definate difference in the play from league to league.  NEFC is not up the the Empire 8 or Liberty League.  I've watched games during the last two years from the following schools, Springfield, Hobart, Salve, Endicott, Curry, Ithaca, and numerous games now from the MWC.  Sorry, but there is a definate difference.  Springfield, Hobart and Ithaca would beat Endicott IMHO pretty handily.  After going on recruiting trips to all those schools, I would have to say the the NEFC teams are at a serious disadvantage due to facilities and support from the school.  Endicott shared one field for practice with both mens and womans soccor and at times had to practice until 10pm at night under the lights.  That or 6am practices as I remember.  Salve used a high school field 5 miles away from the school.  I'm sure that turned away many recruits.  The lifting gyms were very limited in size and equipment at both schools.  Ever see Springfields facilities?

(https://velocity.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/350x0/8/4//84251-room_013.jpg)
Springfield's weight room
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on November 07, 2011, 10:50:30 AM
that actually looks like Endicott's did when we went!
lol
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Upstate on November 07, 2011, 10:55:47 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on November 07, 2011, 10:50:30 AM
that actually looks like Endicott's did when we went!
lol

That's how St. John Fishers looked in the mid to late 90's before they got the Bills to come there...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Charles on November 07, 2011, 11:20:44 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on November 07, 2011, 10:50:30 AM
that actually looks like Endicott's did when we went!
lol

Sounds like you're son made the best choice for him both academically and athletically.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on November 07, 2011, 11:26:15 AM
Was that another jab?

I doubt you want to compare either right now.

lol
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 07, 2011, 11:28:42 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on November 07, 2011, 11:26:15 AM
Was that another jab?

I doubt you want to compare either right now.

lol

Seriously, because Endicott is an academic juggernaut.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on November 07, 2011, 11:33:09 AM
Well Lew......

Let's not go there unless he pushes the subject.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: zach on November 08, 2011, 02:27:34 PM
Any reason that the championship game is at noon instead of a night game?  A 7 o'clock start would draw a much larger crowd than a noon start when most college students are still asleep. Even a nice 4:00 start would allow for some pre-gaming before the game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 08, 2011, 02:29:01 PM
Quote from: zach on November 08, 2011, 02:27:34 PM
Any reason that the championship game is at noon instead of a night game?  A 7 o'clock start would draw a much larger crowd than a noon start when most college students are still asleep. Even a nice 4:00 start would allow for some pre-gaming before the game.

Weather this time of the year could be a problem, especially with the temperatures and the concern for the public's safety in cold temperatures.  The start time is probably mandated by the conference.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: zach on November 08, 2011, 04:18:17 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 08, 2011, 02:29:01 PM
Quote from: zach on November 08, 2011, 02:27:34 PM
Any reason that the championship game is at noon instead of a night game?  A 7 o'clock start would draw a much larger crowd than a noon start when most college students are still asleep. Even a nice 4:00 start would allow for some pre-gaming before the game.

Weather this time of the year could be a problem, especially with the temperatures and the concern for the public's safety in cold temperatures.  The start time is probably mandated by the conference.

I hear you about the temperatures, but even for regular season games the start times should be later in the day. Everyone knows that night games draw a larger crowd than day games.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 08, 2011, 04:19:46 PM
Not in New England in November. Go through this week's schedule -- there are only two night games nationally.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: zach on November 08, 2011, 06:27:46 PM
yeah you're right. I'm surprised, thought that there would be more night games.  You're right though, they don't play night games at D-3 level.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 08, 2011, 07:21:25 PM
It would be a perfect night for football in Boston if they wanted it this weekend.  50 on Saturday.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: DanPadavona on November 08, 2011, 07:33:36 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on November 07, 2011, 10:44:21 AM
NEFC is not up the the Empire 8 or Liberty League.  I've watched games during the last two years from the following schools, Springfield, Hobart, Salve, Endicott, Curry, Ithaca, and numerous games now from the MWC.  Sorry, but there is a definate difference. 

There is a clear difference, though I will contend the NEFC has closed the gap a bit over the last decade.

Have you had a chance to see the NESCAC? I caught a few games on NESN several years back, and the occasional game online. It was my opinion that the top of the NESCAC could compete with the top of the E8 and NJAC most seasons. Definitely a stronger conference than the NEFC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on November 09, 2011, 06:16:27 AM
I've seen that NESCAC argument now numerous times on this board and I will dissagree.  I've watched Trinity and Williams play.  I found them to be decent on thier starting 11 players on each side with a couple above decent players each.  But then there was a remarkable drop.  I don't think they are deep enough to compete in the E8 or LL.
It's much easier to say "I think they would win" than "They won".

Ben Franklin said, "Well done is better than Well said".

My son plays on a team out in the Midwest Conference.  They are a group of higher education schools that put NESCAC like limitations on the coaches.  Like no in school recruiting (Can't go to high schools to recruit), 10 game/scrimmage season limit (1 more game/scrimmage that NESCAC) so all the teams play a non conference game and have no scrimmages prior to the season.  But the big difference is they do play out of conference and then compete in the NCAA's.  Monmouth would be just another NESCAC "They would do good in the NCAA's or in this league or that" if they didn't.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: zach on November 12, 2011, 07:03:41 PM
Great job coming back by WNE. Down by 13 with 4:30 left to win in OT was impressive.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: softballrz on November 12, 2011, 07:07:46 PM
once again wnec special teams saves the day.  it is how they beat Endicott and today a on sides kick recovery with 3 min left.  job well done.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: zach on November 12, 2011, 07:53:45 PM
Actually the special teams was terrible. Missed a couple easy field goals. Punts were terrible. Even Graham didn't have any big returns. It was the defense that shut down Framingham except for two plays. One being a 77 yard pass which was almost an interception, just the reciever ripped it out of the defenders hands. Other score came off of an 18 yard punt that allowed Framingham to start off at the 20. In the 4th quarter WNE D kept them in it by getting stop after stop.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on November 14, 2011, 05:41:43 PM
Congrats to Coach Chesney and Salve Regina for hosting an ECAC Bowl.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 14, 2011, 05:53:57 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on November 14, 2011, 05:41:43 PM
Congrats to Coach Chesney and Salve Regina for hosting an ECAC Bowl.

Seconded.  I wish Salve were the 9-1 team so that we could've touted Coach Chesney's scheduling philosophy.  See you next year in Schenectady, Salve.  Great team you have there.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Upstate on November 14, 2011, 06:01:22 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 14, 2011, 05:53:57 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on November 14, 2011, 05:41:43 PM
Congrats to Coach Chesney and Salve Regina for hosting an ECAC Bowl.

Seconded.  I wish Salve were the 9-1 team so that we could've touted Coach Chesney's scheduling philosophy.  See you next year in Schenectady, Salve.  Great team you have there.

Third-ed, if Salve went 9-1 with wins over Union & Montclair I bet all of the east would have been pulling for them getting a pool C and they likely would have been rewarded one...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on November 14, 2011, 07:03:42 PM
I will go back to when they were 2-3.  I posted they were the best 3 loss team in the nation.  lol.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 14, 2011, 07:18:16 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on November 14, 2011, 07:03:42 PM
I will go back to when they were 2-3.  I posted they were the best 3 loss team in the nation.  lol.

What's ironic is that both Union and Salve Regina were at 2-3.  Union lost one more before reeling off 4 wins to end the season.  So, entering next year, if Salve wins this weekend, we'll have two teams riding nice winning streaks into the season.  Good luck this weekend.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on November 15, 2011, 08:26:07 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on November 14, 2011, 07:03:42 PM
I will go back to when they were 2-3.  I posted they were the best 3 loss team in the nation.  lol.

Might be a hint of exaggeration there (some teams started out 2-3 in MUCH tougher conferences), but I agree that Salve should be commended for scheduling "up" in their OOC games and I expect that it will pay dividends if they stick with it for a few years.  Does anyone know if they'll continue to play LL, E8, and NJAC teams in the future?  If so, I expect that eventually they will become the class of the NEFC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 15, 2011, 11:16:22 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 15, 2011, 08:26:07 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on November 14, 2011, 07:03:42 PM
I will go back to when they were 2-3.  I posted they were the best 3 loss team in the nation.  lol.

Might be a hint of exaggeration there (some teams started out 2-3 in MUCH tougher conferences), but I agree that Salve should be commended for scheduling "up" in their OOC games and I expect that it will pay dividends if they stick with it for a few years.  Does anyone know if they'll continue to play LL, E8, and NJAC teams in the future?  If so, I expect that eventually they will become the class of the NEFC.

Salve/Union is for one more season.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: softballrz on November 16, 2011, 10:00:17 AM
Salve "Class of the NEFC"  This is a funny line.  Thank you for the laugh with coffee this morning.

Salve has had three coachs in the last 6 years.  Salve has no home field or pratice field and they play at the local middle school.  Why is this good for recurting?  Because the current coach scheduled out of conference games? 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 16, 2011, 10:17:01 AM
RZ: He said eventually, and he even italicized it. If you spit-take your coffee, it's on you. :)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on November 16, 2011, 10:18:06 AM
Quote from: softballrz on November 16, 2011, 10:00:17 AM
Salve "Class of the NEFC"  This is a funny line.  Thank you for the laugh with coffee this morning.

Salve has had three coachs in the last 6 years.  Salve has no home field or pratice field and they play at the local middle school.  Why is this good for recurting?  Because the current coach scheduled out of conference games?

Wouldn't you want Salve, or someone in the NEFC, to become at least "Regionally" respected though?  Right now, Salve is pretty much the only school from the NEFC scheduling tough, non-ECFC, teams to make up their non-league schedule.  You take away Salve's non-league games against LL and NJAC opponents (Union and Montclair...two respected opponents by almost everyone) and your entire 16 team league would have only 3 total non-league games played against opponents that are not in the ECFC. 

Seriously?  Even including Salve's non-league games against Union and Montclair...the entire NEFC played 5 total non-league games against teams not in the NEFC or the ECFC.  That is an incredibly low number.  Honestly...do you really want us to get excited that you (the NEFC) as a league went 8-0 against the ECFC?

That right there should explain to you why Endicott was left out in the cold on Selection Sunday.  As many of us have stated in the past...you want the blue print for future success and future respect...take a look at Salve's scheduling blueprint.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 16, 2011, 10:30:47 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 16, 2011, 10:18:06 AM
Quote from: softballrz on November 16, 2011, 10:00:17 AM
Salve "Class of the NEFC"  This is a funny line.  Thank you for the laugh with coffee this morning.

Salve has had three coachs in the last 6 years.  Salve has no home field or pratice field and they play at the local middle school.  Why is this good for recurting?  Because the current coach scheduled out of conference games?

Wouldn't you want Salve, or someone in the NEFC, to become at least "Regionally" respected though?  Right now, Salve is pretty much the only school from the NEFC scheduling tough, non-ECFC, teams to make up their non-league schedule.  You take away Salve's non-league games against LL and NJAC opponents (Union and Montclair...two respected opponents by almost everyone) and your entire 16 team league would have only 3 total non-league games played against opponents that are not in the ECFC. 

Seriously?  Even including Salve's non-league games against Union and Montclair...the entire NEFC played 5 total non-league games against teams not in the NEFC or the ECFC.  That is an incredibly low number.  Honestly...do you really want us to get excited that you (the NEFC) as a league went 8-0 against the ECFC?

That right there should explain to you why Endicott was left out in the cold on Selection Sunday.  As many of us have stated in the past...you want the blue print for future success and future respect...take a look at Salve's scheduling blueprint.

To Endicott's credit, they DID have RPI on the schedule for a few years, before RPI's recent struggles, but they took a huge step back this year scheduling when they could have used it the most.  An OOC win vs. a middle of the pack LL or E8 team would have likely done wonders.

I think Springfield would probably smoke them, but wouldn't Springfield make some geographical sense?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: softballrz on November 16, 2011, 03:29:49 PM
"That right there should explain to you why Endicott was left out in the cold on Selection Sunday.  As many of us have stated in the past...you want the blue print for future success and future respect...take a look at Salve's scheduling blueprint."

As it was discussed here, knowing how Endicott was left out because of it's limited SOS would it not be possible for the NEFC and its two divisions to spilt and request a second pool A bid.  They have the teams and numbers required. This option avoids scheduling out of conference games and keeps travel costs to a minimum for the state schools.

Also, Salve is a head coaching starting ponit.  When a head coach is succesfull at Salve he is and will always be sought after by other schools.  When he is able to win with the restictions put on him by the school, just think what he is able to do with support.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on November 16, 2011, 04:02:18 PM
Quote from: softballrz on November 16, 2011, 03:29:49 PM
"That right there should explain to you why Endicott was left out in the cold on Selection Sunday.  As many of us have stated in the past...you want the blue print for future success and future respect...take a look at Salve's scheduling blueprint."

As it was discussed here, knowing how Endicott was left out because of it's limited SOS would it not be possible for the NEFC and its two divisions to spilt and request a second pool A bid.  They have the teams and numbers required. This option avoids scheduling out of conference games and keeps travel costs to a minimum for the state schools.

Also, Salve is a head coaching starting ponit.  When a head coach is succesfull at Salve he is and will always be sought after by other schools.  When he is able to win with the restictions put on him by the school, just think what he is able to do with support.

I am not 100% sure...but you are automatically assuming that once you break up as a league, that you would still retain even ONE Pool A bid.  Maybe you would...somebody smarter then me would have to chime in on this one...but there is also the possibility that you would lose the one Pool A bid for a few years while waiting for two Pool A bids.

Not to mention everyone (now throughout the country) would hate you even more for taking another bid off the table.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Upstate on November 16, 2011, 04:38:49 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 16, 2011, 04:02:18 PM
Not to mention everyone (now throughout the country) would hate you even more for taking another bid off the table.

Everyone except for their first round opponents in the playoffs that is...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 16, 2011, 04:45:03 PM
Quote from: Upstate on November 16, 2011, 04:38:49 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 16, 2011, 04:02:18 PM
Not to mention everyone (now throughout the country) would hate you even more for taking another bid off the table.

Everyone except for their first round opponents in the playoffs that is...

Trust me, there would become a rule proposed concerning football-only and associate membership scenarios to eliminate some of the gerrymandering we're witnessing.  That's one big way to avoid increasing the minimum Pool A teams required for an AQ and to provide for more Pool B and C selections.  Go ahead, NEFC, let's see you force the system to change like that.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SJFF82 on November 16, 2011, 04:48:00 PM
Quote from: softballrz on November 16, 2011, 10:00:17 AM
Salve "Class of the NEFC"  This is a funny line.  Thank you for the laugh with coffee this morning.

Salve has had three coachs in the last 6 years.  Salve has no home field or pratice field and they play at the local middle school.  Why is this good for recurting?  Because the current coach scheduled out of conference games?

82 remembers when SJF played Salve in the early 90's.  Those facilities were atrocious and sounds like they are the same ones.  We dressed at our hotel because there were no locker rooms for us and then after the game, which was at some mud pit in the City, with barely any lines on the field, we took a yellow school bus to literally some dungeon without windows in the basement of a grade school to shower....I think Jerry Sandusky was there....oops
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 16, 2011, 04:49:15 PM
(Too soon, 82...)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on November 16, 2011, 05:26:35 PM
Softballz, I'm glad the thought of Salve made you spit out your coffee.  You might want to keep some brewed cuz I think you'll be spitting more out the next couple years.

I found it funny that you were hitting on Salve's facilities.  When we toured Endicott, yes the home of your beloved Gulls, we thought the same there.  When the player that we first met prior to meeting the coach told us that the football team shared the field with mens soccer, womans soccer, and field hockey it raised the first red flag for me.  He told us about the 10pm practices because each team got shots at the best times.  And when there was a home soccer game for either team, well everyone had to wait.  Then on the tour we got to see the weight room, or was it a garage?  It was hard to tell the difference.

Salve plays at a local high school because when it was time to turf the local field (which was the Newports rec) they didn't want to have to share the field with all the rec teams.  So they found a school close that was up for a field upgrade and worked out a deal.  And the workout facilities are the ones used by the Boston Celtics in thier pre season.  You can be assured Kevin Garnett would never lift in a garge you know.

Endicott has had two good seasons.  And kudo's to them.  I actually defended them in a NH High School board a couple years ago when someone was saying how bad they were.  In the NEFC you can do pretty good things with a coaching change and good recruiting.  Both are happening down at Salve.  Endicott did well in bringing Mike Lane in from the Preps.  I saw him in his final public high school game for Medfield.  I was impressed and now I can see why.  But what happens next year?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 16, 2011, 05:30:29 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 16, 2011, 04:45:03 PM
Quote from: Upstate on November 16, 2011, 04:38:49 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 16, 2011, 04:02:18 PM
Not to mention everyone (now throughout the country) would hate you even more for taking another bid off the table.

Everyone except for their first round opponents in the playoffs that is...

Trust me, there would become a rule proposed concerning football-only and associate membership scenarios to eliminate some of the gerrymandering we're witnessing.  That's one big way to avoid increasing the minimum Pool A teams required for an AQ and to provide for more Pool B and C selections.  Go ahead, NEFC, let's see you force the system to change like that.

I'm not so sure about that Frank.  The NCAA gave the New England lacrosse leagues everything they wanted.   Ithaca got hosed one year in a scenerio that would make softballrz spill coffee in his lap.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 16, 2011, 05:35:15 PM
Quote from: softballrz on November 16, 2011, 03:29:49 PM
"That right there should explain to you why Endicott was left out in the cold on Selection Sunday.  As many of us have stated in the past...you want the blue print for future success and future respect...take a look at Salve's scheduling blueprint."

As it was discussed here, knowing how Endicott was left out because of it's limited SOS would it not be possible for the NEFC and its two divisions to spilt and request a second pool A bid.  They have the teams and numbers required. This option avoids scheduling out of conference games and keeps travel costs to a minimum for the state schools.

Also, Salve is a head coaching starting ponit.  When a head coach is succesfull at Salve he is and will always be sought after by other schools.  When he is able to win with the restictions put on him by the school, just think what he is able to do with support.

Living in Newport isn't that bad either though.

It says on the Endicott website that the Endicott coach lives in Auburn.  That must be one nightmare of a drive.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on November 16, 2011, 05:41:08 PM
The "scenery", both walking and stationary was much better in Newport.  Lol.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 16, 2011, 05:53:14 PM
Jonny - I'd be the first one in Indianapolis attempting to assist in such a change.  I wouldn't be alone.  We're at an alarmingly low Pool C scenario if it happens, and could be down to 4 if things shake out the way I foresee by 2014/2015 if the NEFC splits.  A split would necessitate an expedited solution, in my honest opinion.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 16, 2011, 05:53:57 PM
I've seen the Salve campus from the road and it looks amazing.  But I always hear about the crappy facilities.  Any plans at that school to do something about that?  Seems like they should have the money.

Maybe they could play on the front lawn at the Breakers?

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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on November 16, 2011, 05:56:44 PM
I went to 2 home games last year.  The facilities are fine.  Just not on campus.  I think from looking around on the campus is there isn't any room.  Newport real estate is a little high right now to purchase any surrounding land.  And I'm pretty sure getting a building permit in the middle of Mansion Land would take an Obama level effort.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 16, 2011, 05:59:38 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 16, 2011, 05:53:14 PM
Jonny - I'd be the first one in Indianapolis attempting to assist in such a change.  I wouldn't be alone.  We're at an alarmingly low Pool C scenario if it happens, and could be down to 4 if things shake out the way I foresee by 2014/2015 if the NEFC splits.  A split would necessitate an expedited solution, in my honest opinion.

Oh I would be on your side.  I'm just pointing out that in lacrosse, the NCAA gives out pool A bids out while top 10 ranked teams get left out.  Top 10 ranked teams do not get left out in football.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 16, 2011, 06:08:51 PM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on November 16, 2011, 05:59:38 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 16, 2011, 05:53:14 PM
Jonny - I'd be the first one in Indianapolis attempting to assist in such a change.  I wouldn't be alone.  We're at an alarmingly low Pool C scenario if it happens, and could be down to 4 if things shake out the way I foresee by 2014/2015 if the NEFC splits.  A split would necessitate an expedited solution, in my honest opinion.

Oh I would be on your side.  I'm just pointing out that in lacrosse, the NCAA gives out pool A bids out while top 10 ranked teams get left out.  Top 10 ranked teams do not get left out in football.

Just to give you a lowdown on what I'm talking about, in 2009, the Ithaca lacrosse team is the 3rd ranked team in the country going into the E8 playoffs agasint Nazarath.  They are 14-1 with wins over that years national champion Cortland (ranked #4 at the time), and #18 Nazareth during the regular season.  The second time around they lose to Nazereth 13-12 in OT ending their season at 14-2 and no playoffs. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on November 17, 2011, 07:41:15 AM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on November 16, 2011, 05:53:57 PM
I've seen the Salve campus from the road and it looks amazing.  But I always hear about the crappy facilities.  Any plans at that school to do something about that?  Seems like they should have the money.

Maybe they could play on the front lawn at the Breakers?

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Where'd you get this picture of Pep's summer home? But seriously, before Bellevue Ave. was developed, it was an old farm. Pep has an acquaintance who resides in the original farmhouse from whence the farm property was divided for construction of the mansions.

And Pep well remembers Ithaca lax getting the shaft come playoff time. IC's head lax coach married an Alfred gal.

On Saxon Warriors!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on November 17, 2011, 03:12:29 PM
Are there any NEFC schools in or around the Boston area?

I'm trying to collect something from each DIII football program. My wife might be headed out that way next weekend, and I might have her stop and pick something up for me?

Much appreicated!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUKaz00 on November 17, 2011, 03:31:38 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 17, 2011, 03:12:29 PM
Are there any NEFC schools in or around the Boston area?

I'm trying to collect something from each DIII football program. My wife might be headed out that way next weekend, and I might have her stop and pick something up for me?

Much appreicated!!

Well, Alfred is playing a team 30 miles South of Boston this weekend, though I presume Mrs. 02 wouldn't want to travel that far.  MIT, Nichols and Tufts are all within 5 miles of Boston plus Curry and Mt. Ida are about 10 miles away.  If she really loves you, she'd be willing to hit all five!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on November 17, 2011, 03:57:51 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 16, 2011, 05:53:14 PM
Jonny - I'd be the first one in Indianapolis attempting to assist in such a change.  I wouldn't be alone.  We're at an alarmingly low Pool C scenario if it happens, and could be down to 4 if things shake out the way I foresee by 2014/2015 if the NEFC splits.  A split would necessitate an expedited solution, in my honest opinion.

I'm just curious, Frank (or anyone else): is there actually an indication that the NEFC is planning to split and grab two Pool A bids?

The reason that I ask is that, for all the complaining/bantering/suggesting we've done (I'm thinking of your suggestion about forcing a higher minimum threshold for an AQ bid, or forcing weaker conferences a la NEFC/ECFC to stage play-in games), the NEFC is effectively doing that in its current format.  They COULD theoretically have two Pool A spots, but at least they have the NEFC division champions play and thereby "only" take one Pool A slot.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 17, 2011, 04:02:54 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 17, 2011, 03:12:29 PM
Are there any NEFC schools in or around the Boston area?

I'm trying to collect something from each DIII football program. My wife might be headed out that way next weekend, and I might have her stop and pick something up for me?

Much appreicated!!

We'll happily donate Charles to you for your Endicott collection.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on November 17, 2011, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 17, 2011, 04:02:54 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 17, 2011, 03:12:29 PM
Are there any NEFC schools in or around the Boston area?

I'm trying to collect something from each DIII football program. My wife might be headed out that way next weekend, and I might have her stop and pick something up for me?

Much appreicated!!

We'll happily donate Charles to you for your Endicott collection.

I'm up for trading. I have stuff from UWW, Chapman, La Verne, Occidental.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SJFF82 on November 17, 2011, 04:52:45 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 17, 2011, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 17, 2011, 04:02:54 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 17, 2011, 03:12:29 PM
Are there any NEFC schools in or around the Boston area?

I'm trying to collect something from each DIII football program. My wife might be headed out that way next weekend, and I might have her stop and pick something up for me?

Much appreicated!!

We'll happily donate Charles to you for your Endicott collection.

I'm up for trading. I have stuff from UWW, Chapman, La Verne, Occidental.....

we'll take 1 Occidental in exchange for 1 Charles
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on November 17, 2011, 06:00:11 PM
Quote from: SJFF82 on November 17, 2011, 04:52:45 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 17, 2011, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 17, 2011, 04:02:54 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 17, 2011, 03:12:29 PM
Are there any NEFC schools in or around the Boston area?

I'm trying to collect something from each DIII football program. My wife might be headed out that way next weekend, and I might have her stop and pick something up for me?

Much appreicated!!

We'll happily donate Charles to you for your Endicott collection.

I'm up for trading. I have stuff from UWW, Chapman, La Verne, Occidental.....

we'll take 1 Occidental in exchange for 1 Charles

What's Charles?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 17, 2011, 07:40:06 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 17, 2011, 06:00:11 PM
Quote from: SJFF82 on November 17, 2011, 04:52:45 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 17, 2011, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 17, 2011, 04:02:54 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 17, 2011, 03:12:29 PM
Are there any NEFC schools in or around the Boston area?

I'm trying to collect something from each DIII football program. My wife might be headed out that way next weekend, and I might have her stop and pick something up for me?

Much appreicated!!

We'll happily donate Charles to you for your Endicott collection.

I'm up for trading. I have stuff from UWW, Chapman, La Verne, Occidental.....

we'll take 1 Occidental in exchange for 1 Charles

What's Charles?

We've been wondering that for weeks...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 17, 2011, 11:08:27 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 17, 2011, 06:00:11 PM
Quote from: SJFF82 on November 17, 2011, 04:52:45 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 17, 2011, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 17, 2011, 04:02:54 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 17, 2011, 03:12:29 PM
Are there any NEFC schools in or around the Boston area?

I'm trying to collect something from each DIII football program. My wife might be headed out that way next weekend, and I might have her stop and pick something up for me?

Much appreicated!!

We'll happily donate Charles to you for your Endicott collection.

I'm up for trading. I have stuff from UWW, Chapman, La Verne, Occidental.....

we'll take 1 Occidental in exchange for 1 Charles

What's Charles?

I believe Charles is an old wooden ship.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on November 20, 2011, 06:17:46 AM
Nice finish to a successful season for Salve by beating Worc State.  Congrats Coach C!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 20, 2011, 07:55:07 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on November 20, 2011, 06:17:46 AM
Nice finish to a successful season for Salve by beating Worc State.  Congrats Coach C!

Congrats to Salve as well. I believe the NEFC will run through them next year even though they do lose some key defensive pieces. But the majority of the offense is back, they seem to recruit well, and Chesney seems to be the real deal as a coach. WNEC won't repeat, their only game without thier QB they lost to Mass Maritime and he graduates. Endicott is going to plunge, they lose the majority of thier offense and two key defensive players as well. I think they are in for a 5-5 type season next year. Lets hope Salve can keep the conference moving in positive direction and more schools schedule more OOC opponents, even though I don't think you will see it, especially in the Bogan side with the state schools.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on December 15, 2011, 07:33:24 AM
I have been hearing rumors lately that the NEFC is going to split. I'm not sure when it's going to happen, but from what I hear the state schools are going to break off and go to the MASCAC and the private/military schools will remain as the NEFC.

Anyone hear anything similar?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on December 15, 2011, 08:49:41 AM
Quote from: InTheMix on December 15, 2011, 07:33:24 AM
I have been hearing rumors lately that the NEFC is going to split. I'm not sure when it's going to happen, but from what I hear the state schools are going to break off and go to the MASCAC and the private/military schools will remain as the NEFC.

Anyone hear anything similar?

If this happens, you can bet that the Empire 8 and Liberty League fans will have something to say about it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Upstate on December 15, 2011, 09:35:37 AM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on December 15, 2011, 08:49:41 AM
Quote from: InTheMix on December 15, 2011, 07:33:24 AM
I have been hearing rumors lately that the NEFC is going to split. I'm not sure when it's going to happen, but from what I hear the state schools are going to break off and go to the MASCAC and the private/military schools will remain as the NEFC.

Anyone hear anything similar?

If this happens, you can bet that the Empire 8 and Liberty League fans will have something to say about it.

Eh it will just be another first round bye for a team if they get 2 pool A's, no biggie...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on December 15, 2011, 09:44:18 AM
Quote from: Upstate on December 15, 2011, 09:35:37 AM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on December 15, 2011, 08:49:41 AM
Quote from: InTheMix on December 15, 2011, 07:33:24 AM
I have been hearing rumors lately that the NEFC is going to split. I'm not sure when it's going to happen, but from what I hear the state schools are going to break off and go to the MASCAC and the private/military schools will remain as the NEFC.

Anyone hear anything similar?

If this happens, you can bet that the Empire 8 and Liberty League fans will have something to say about it.

Eh it will just be another first round bye for a team if they get 2 pool A's, no biggie...

Kind of like Ithaca's first-round "bye" in 2008?

I even admit that I was still skeptical that the NEFC could produce a playoff-worthy team even after Curry beat Hartwick in 2007, because Hartwick played zero defense and won a share of the E8 title that year solely on the strength of a great QB.  However, when Curry beat Ithaca the next year, I accepted that OCCASIONALLY the NEFC could produce a competitive team (even if there's ample evidence that Ithaca just overlooked them, given that Curry lost 42-0 the following week to a Cortland State team that Ithaca soundly defeated in Week 11).

I know that the NEFC certainly doesn't match up on a year-to-year basis, and I'd be upset if they swallow up two Pool A bids instead of one.  But I think it's a tad hasty to dismiss NEFC schools as a "bye" altogether.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Upstate on December 15, 2011, 10:04:57 AM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on December 15, 2011, 09:44:18 AM
Quote from: Upstate on December 15, 2011, 09:35:37 AM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on December 15, 2011, 08:49:41 AM
Quote from: InTheMix on December 15, 2011, 07:33:24 AM
I have been hearing rumors lately that the NEFC is going to split. I'm not sure when it's going to happen, but from what I hear the state schools are going to break off and go to the MASCAC and the private/military schools will remain as the NEFC.

Anyone hear anything similar?

If this happens, you can bet that the Empire 8 and Liberty League fans will have something to say about it.

Eh it will just be another first round bye for a team if they get 2 pool A's, no biggie...

Kind of like Ithaca's first-round "bye" in 2008?

I even admit that I was still skeptical that the NEFC could produce a playoff-worthy team even after Curry beat Hartwick in 2007, because Hartwick played zero defense and won a share of the E8 title that year solely on the strength of a great QB.  However, when Curry beat Ithaca the next year, I accepted that OCCASIONALLY the NEFC could produce a competitive team (even if there's ample evidence that Ithaca just overlooked them, given that Curry lost 42-0 the following week to a Cortland State team that Ithaca soundly defeated in Week 11).

I know that the NEFC certainly doesn't match up on a year-to-year basis, and I'd be upset if they swallow up two Pool A bids instead of one.  But I think it's a tad hasty to dismiss NEFC schools as a "bye" altogether.

In 2007 Hartwick beat Fisher during the regular season.  Curry beat Hartwick in the first round and then Fisher blew out Curry in the 2nd round.  Then the following year Ithaca beat Cortland during the regular season, Curry beat Ithaca and then Cortland blew out Curry in the 2nd round...

That's the only 2 NCAA wins in their conferences history, by the same team mind you.  Hartwick was ridiculously unprepared for that game despite having one of the East's best QBs ever to come through the region and how Ithaca let Curry hang around during that game is beyond me...

They're a bye...

They get blown out time and time again...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on December 15, 2011, 10:26:35 AM
Quote from: Upstate on December 15, 2011, 10:04:57 AM
In 2007 Hartwick beat Fisher during the regular season.  Curry beat Hartwick in the first round and then Fisher blew out Curry in the 2nd round.  Then the following year Ithaca beat Cortland during the regular season, Curry beat Ithaca and then Cortland blew out Curry in the 2nd round...

That's the only 2 NCAA wins in their conferences history, by the same team mind you.  Hartwick was ridiculously unprepared for that game despite having one of the East's best QBs ever to come through the region and how Ithaca let Curry hang around during that game is beyond me...

I acknowledged as much in my post (re: the fact that Curry was blown out in the second round both times).  I stated that the Hartwick upset wasn't that shocking b/c Hartwick was a semi-fluky E8 "champion" with a horrendous defense (gving up 70 points to Utica?), and I still agree that it's puzzling how Curry beat Ithaca in 2008.

With that said...those wins still count for something, you know.  You sound like a BCS-conference fan continually arguing that Boise State would never compete with bigtime teams, then making excuses when Boise goes ahead and beats those teams (ex. Boise State beat Oregon in 2009, Boise State beat ACC champion Virginia Tech ON THE ROAD last year, Boise State beat SEC title-game participant Georgia ON THE ROAD this year...and yet BCS-conference fans continue to make excuses about how every time that happens it must be a "fluke").

To recap: I still believe that the NEFC is significantly weaker than the other Eastern conferences.  I do NOT believe that the NEFC champion constitutes a "bye" for whomever plays them - I know you pointed out that they have two playoff wins in conference history, but those are RELATIVELY recent, and in 2009-10 the NEFC champion was at least MODERATELY competitive in the first round.  They weren't exactly threatening to WIN the games, but nor were they completely hapless.

This year, WNEC got crushed by Salibsury...but so did EVERYONE in the Empire 8 (69 points vs Alfred, 65 vs Springfield, 70 vs Utica, 61 vs Hartwick).
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on December 15, 2011, 10:43:30 AM
Look, I'm not even trying to argue that the NEFC is "decent" - I'm just nitpicking your use of the word "bye" when, within the past five years, the NEFC champion defeated an Empire 8 team in the playoffs in two consecutive seasons.  Again, that doesn't mean that the NEFC is "good" or that they should split into two conferences and (God forbid) take another playoff berth.  It just means that they aren't NECESSARILY an automatic one-and-done, although they often will be.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 15, 2011, 10:58:38 AM
Regardless of how they perform, splitting into two leagues and grabbing a second automatic bid takes away a Pool C bid from a much more deserving team. I've heard the committee in the past actively discouraging the NEFC from doing this but there wasn't anything in the rules preventing it.

I have heard more about a possible split this year than in the past five or so combined.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on December 15, 2011, 11:33:00 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 15, 2011, 10:58:38 AM
Regardless of how they perform, splitting into two leagues and grabbing a second automatic bid takes away a Pool C bid from a much more deserving team. I've heard the committee in the past actively discouraging the NEFC from doing this but there wasn't anything in the rules preventing it.

I have heard more about a possible split this year than in the past five or so combined.

I bet if the NEFC split up, you would see conferences like the OAC or WIAC split up into "north and south" or the "Kerehes and London Fletcher" divisions.  They could add a few teams to make it happen as well. 

But if the NEFC did do that, you can bet leagues would have to start thinking about their own.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SUADC on December 15, 2011, 11:36:01 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 15, 2011, 10:58:38 AM
Regardless of how they perform, splitting into two leagues and grabbing a second automatic bid takes away a Pool C bid from a much more deserving team. I've heard the committee in the past actively discouraging the NEFC from doing this but there wasn't anything in the rules preventing it.

I have heard more about a possible split this year than in the past five or so combined.

Pat,

With the possible split of the NEFC and the uprising of other Division III National programs starting football, do you believe that in the long run there will to many teams, which may result in to many conferences. So, hypothetically speaking, if there are more than 32 conferences and only 32 bids, do you believe the committee would suggest making some conferences play each other to get a pool A bid and/or do we move to a 64 team bracket for playoffs and create more Pool C bids, which may allow some more deserving teams to get into the playoffs? Also, what happens to the Pool B bids in the long run.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on December 15, 2011, 11:42:17 AM
Quote from: SUADC on December 15, 2011, 11:36:01 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 15, 2011, 10:58:38 AM
Regardless of how they perform, splitting into two leagues and grabbing a second automatic bid takes away a Pool C bid from a much more deserving team. I've heard the committee in the past actively discouraging the NEFC from doing this but there wasn't anything in the rules preventing it.

I have heard more about a possible split this year than in the past five or so combined.

Pat,

With the possible split of the NEFC and the uprising of other Division III National programs starting football, do you believe that in the long run there will to many teams, which may result in to many conferences. So, hypothetically speaking, if there are more than 32 conferences and only 32 bids, do you believe the committee would suggest making some conferences play each other to get a pool A bid and/or do we move to a 64 team bracket for playoffs and create more Pool C bids, which may allow some more deserving teams to get into the playoffs? Also, what happens to the Pool B bids in the long run.

I would say they would simply raise the pool A min to 8, 9, or 10 teams.  Everyone else can then fight for a pool C or B bid.  And then the NEFC would just form back up again to steal some more playoff spots.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on December 15, 2011, 02:41:05 PM
But even if the NEFC does split into two "power" (lol) conferences, isn't there a minimum amount of schools needed in order to get an AQ?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on December 15, 2011, 02:51:24 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on December 15, 2011, 02:41:05 PM
But even if the NEFC does split into two "power" (lol) conferences, isn't there a minimum amount of schools needed in order to get an AQ?

Yes but I believe they have that already
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Upstate on December 15, 2011, 02:53:41 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on December 15, 2011, 02:41:05 PM
But even if the NEFC does split into two "power" (lol) conferences, isn't there a minimum amount of schools needed in order to get an AQ?

Yes it's 7, and the Bogan & Boyd divisions each have 7 (or more)....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: boobyhasgameyo on December 15, 2011, 04:01:47 PM
I will officially stop relentlessly discrediting the NEFC.  We spend weeks every postseason defending the East Region in terms of legitimacy compared to the rest of the Country and then we turn around and cannibalize our own lesser conferences and totally disregard any of their supporters' stances to the contrary.


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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Upstate on December 15, 2011, 04:10:42 PM
Quote from: boobyhasgameyo on December 15, 2011, 04:01:47 PM
I will officially stop relentlessly discrediting the NEFC.  We spend weeks every postseason defending the East Region in terms of legitimacy compared to the rest of the Country and then we turn around and cannibalize our own lesser conferences and totally disregard any of their supporters' stances to the contrary.


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Fine, I'll stop making disparaging remarks about the NEFC & ECFC or any other conference in the East that's not the E8, LL, NJAC or MAC...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUKaz00 on December 16, 2011, 09:09:40 AM
Quote from: Upstate on December 15, 2011, 04:10:42 PM
Quote from: boobyhasgameyo on December 15, 2011, 04:01:47 PM
I will officially stop relentlessly discrediting the NEFC.  We spend weeks every postseason defending the East Region in terms of legitimacy compared to the rest of the Country and then we turn around and cannibalize our own lesser conferences and totally disregard any of their supporters' stances to the contrary.


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Fine, I'll stop making disparaging remarks about the NEFC & ECFC or any other conference in the East that's not the E8, LL, NJAC or MAC...

Unless they split into two conferences?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Doid23 on December 16, 2011, 09:27:26 AM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on December 16, 2011, 09:09:40 AM
Unless they split into two conferences?
Well played. +K
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Upstate on December 16, 2011, 10:35:27 AM
Quote from: Doid23 on December 16, 2011, 09:27:26 AM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on December 16, 2011, 09:09:40 AM
Unless they split into two conferences?
Well played. +K

If they split the conferences I'm leading the charge to get Fisher into the NEFC (Boyd or Bogan) so they can go 10-0 every year...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SJFF82 on December 16, 2011, 12:15:36 PM
Quote from: boobyhasgameyo on December 15, 2011, 04:01:47 PM
I will officially stop relentlessly discrediting the NEFC.  We spend weeks every postseason defending the East Region in terms of legitimacy compared to the rest of the Country and then we turn around and cannibalize our own lesser conferences and totally disregard any of their supporters' stances to the contrary.
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So??????
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FOOTBALL1980 on December 16, 2011, 01:28:44 PM
There are only 3 states in the USA with more college football teams than Massachusetts Texas, New York, Illinois...that includes all divisions!!!  Safe to say that those three are more populated than Mass, the NEFC is a saturated conference which in part accounts for its lack of success versus outside conferences.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on December 16, 2011, 01:56:40 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL1980 on December 16, 2011, 01:28:44 PM
There are only 3 states in the USA with more college football teams than Massachusetts Texas, New York, Illinois...that includes all divisions!!!  Safe to say that those three are more populated than Mass, the NEFC is a saturated conference which in part accounts for its lack of success versus outside conferences.

I understand the logic here (I've used this very argument to explain the strength of the WIAC)...but I have to do a bit of fact-checking.

Pennsylvania has three Division I-A schools (Pitt, Penn State, Temple), at least six I-AA schools (Duquesne, Robert Morris, Lehigh, Lafayette, Villanova, Bucknell...and I might have missed a few), 17 Division II schools (the entire PSAC plus Seton Hill, who plays in the WVIAC), and 24 Division III schools (spread across numerous conferences, but trust me, they exist).  That's a total of 50 football-playing colleges in PA, and that number excludes a couple of junior colleges and trade schools.

If I've counted correctly, there are 20 Division III football schools in Massachusetts.  On top of that I count one Division I-A program (Boston College), three I-AA schools (Harvard, Holy Cross, and UMass), and five Division II schools (America International, Assumption, Bentley, Merrimack, Stonehill).  That would seem to be a few eggs short of the proverbial dozen.

Now, my math skills are a little shaky, but I do have a Bachelor's and a Master's degree in Statistics...so I'm pretty confident that 50 is greater than 29.  So, um...yeah, there are more than three states in the USA with more college football teams than Massachusetts.  Nice try, though.

Ohio, also, has at least 40 football schools (eight Division I-A, two Division I-AA, eleven Division II, and twenty-some Division III).  For that matter, you didn't mention California, which has 21 four-year schools (seven I-A, four I-AA, one II, nine III, two NAIA) plus SEVENTY junior-college programs.

*Yes, California is huge and SHOULD have more football programs than Massachusetts - that's not my point.  If you're going to make this phony argument that "only three states have more college football programs than Massachusetts" you should at least get the facts straight.

I see your point - that whatever talent there is in Massachusetts is spready thin - but personally, I think that the "saturation" factor is only part of the story for the NEFC.  For example, I remember reading a story during Curry's playoff run that mentioned that most (if not all) of the NEFC head coaching positions are "part-time" jobs, and that the guys all work a "real" job in addition to coaching at NEFC schools.  Contrast that to most Division III schools, where the head coach is virtually ALWAYS a "full-time" job and, in many cases, so are the coordinator positions.  IMHO, that points to a larger issue of how seriously football is taken at the NEFC schools compared to most of Division III.

And, frankly, that's fine.  There's nothing wrong with playing in a conference of like-minded schools where you've decided up-front that the sport is not a PRIORITY but is more of a recreational activity.

Honestly, although it may come off that way, this isn't meant to demean NEFC football coaches or players at all, or to say that THEY don't take football seriously.  It's just a statement of facts.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Desertraider on December 16, 2011, 01:59:31 PM
I have been watching ESPN2 all day and the ticker at the bottom for NCAAF has the Div.1 FCS semi-finals with times - but nothing on the game tonight. Thanks for nothing ESPN. Even if you are not a fan of either team make it a D3 football event. Remember that one day your team will be in the Stagg and you will want networks to cover it - lets give them some ratings so that can happen. If you don't watch the game thats fine - just turn it on. Maybe if the ratings are decent ESPN will stop moving the game to friday (a TV dead zone!) or moving to a smaller ESPN network so they can show some damn Poker tournament! Even if you not a fan of the teams playing - we are all fans of DIII football!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SJFF82 on December 16, 2011, 02:15:04 PM
Quote from: desertraider on December 16, 2011, 01:59:31 PM
I have been watching ESPN2 all day and the ticker at the bottom for NCAAF has the Div.1 FCS semi-finals with times - but nothing on the game tonight. Thanks for nothing ESPN. Even if you are not a fan of either team make it a D3 football event. Remember that one day your team will be in the Stagg and you will want networks to cover it - lets give them some ratings so that can happen. If you don't watch the game thats fine - just turn it on. Maybe if the ratings are decent ESPN will stop moving the game to friday (a TV dead zone!) or moving to a smaller ESPN network so they can show some damn Poker tournament! Even if you not a fan of the teams playing - we are all fans of DIII football!

You think you are funny?  Please keep all us bums in the East posted...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on December 17, 2011, 07:53:11 AM
In referance to the number of colleges in D3 from different states.

If you look at the states, you can see that most have chosen a path and gone with it.  For example, take a look at Florida.  How many D3 schools are there in that state?  I don't think you can then compare them to Mass.  I think when you look at the talent levels from each state, the percentage of D1-D3 schools comes into focus.  I was at an event where the speaker said that 85% of all the D1 players come from a total of 5 states.  As I remember, they were Florida, Texas, Ohio, Penn, and California. I could be off on one or two, but the 5 schools made you think.  Then how many kids from Mass end up in D1?  I think you'd be surprised how few.  So D3 makes more sense for the talent pool there.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FOOTBALL1980 on December 19, 2011, 07:10:49 AM
Thank you that was my point, saturation....the numbers may have been off, but the saturation still exists.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on December 19, 2011, 06:10:09 PM
My post might not have been clear enough.  There are no D3 teams in Fla.  There are 17 D3 teams in Mass.  That's because the talent pool is much more suited for D3 in Mass.  The talent pool in Fla is more suited for D1.

When you look at the D1 teams in Mass you'll even see that they pull most of thier roster from out of state.  Many from New Jersey.....


My son is playing D3 football in Chicago.  It's awesome.  I'm not dinging it at all.....What I saw through the whole recruiting process with my son and others around him (in Prep Schools) was much higher hopes than what actually turned out....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on December 20, 2011, 01:41:03 PM
Statisticle man missed out on a key point...POPULATION!  Not doing a ton of research and trusting your post for # of teams in MA, PA, and CA, I am seeing the following:

Population   State   Teams
12,604,767   PA   50
6,593,587   MA   29
39,961,664   CA   91


This yields:
PA - 252,095 people per football school
MA - 227,365 people per football school
CA - 439,139 people per football school

Not that any of these numbers really mean anything at all, but I figured i'd mention the failed logic in your argument.  Not to mention, I don't think much of your comparisons anyway because D1A and D1AA, and even D2 to an extent, pull from MUCH larger areas, and not just locally, like the majority of D3 schools.  These numbers skew in favor of the saturation of MA D3 schools quite a bit.

If the NEFC splits and gets 2 bids, I will start a new Occupy movement. 

Perhaps 'Occupy Endicott'.  Me and charles.


Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Charles on December 26, 2011, 12:13:42 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on December 20, 2011, 01:41:03 PM
Statisticle man missed out on a key point...POPULATION!  Not doing a ton of research and trusting your post for # of teams in MA, PA, and CA, I am seeing the following:

Population   State   Teams
12,604,767   PA   50
6,593,587   MA   29
39,961,664   CA   91


This yields:
PA - 252,095 people per football school
MA - 227,365 people per football school
CA - 439,139 people per football school

Not that any of these numbers really mean anything at all, but I figured i'd mention the failed logic in your argument.  Not to mention, I don't think much of your comparisons anyway because D1A and D1AA, and even D2 to an extent, pull from MUCH larger areas, and not just locally, like the majority of D3 schools.  These numbers skew in favor of the saturation of MA D3 schools quite a bit.

If the NEFC splits and gets 2 bids, I will start a new Occupy movement. 

Perhaps 'Occupy Endicott'.  Me and charles.

Maybe you and Pat Coleman. I hear Pat is almost a cult hero up there.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: softballrz on February 09, 2012, 10:23:32 AM
Just a note to tell you all  I told you all so!!!

NEFC announces league restructuring for 2013 season

Starting in 2013, Endicott will be one of eight teams competing in the newly restructured NEFC.Rob Palardy, Sports Information Director
2/9/2012 10:00:00 AM

FITCHBURG, Mass. - New England Football Conference (NEFC) Commissioner Sue Lauder has announced a restructuring of the Conference that will take place prior to the 2013 season. The NEFC, founded in 1965 by Bridgewater State College, Curry College, and Maine Maritime Academy, will function as an eight team league and will retain the NEFC's automatic bid to the NCAA Division III Championship Tournament.  The realigned NEFC will consist of Curry College, Endicott College, Maine Maritime Academy, MIT, Nichols College, Salve Regina University, the U.S. Coast Guard Academy, and Western New England University.

Institutions that are currently members of the multi-sport Massachusetts State Collegiate Athletic Conference (Bridgewater State University, Fitchburg State University, Framingham State University, Massachusetts Maritime Academy, Westfield State University, and Worcester State University) will compete in a newly formed MASCAC football league.  Plymouth State University and UMass Dartmouth, two schools that have a playing relationship with the MASCAC through an affiliation agreement between the MASCAC and the Little East Conference, will also join the new league.

"It's been an honor to have been a member of the NEFC and to work with the quality student athletes, coaches and administrators at all of the NEFC institutions," said Lauder who is also the Director of Athletics at Fitchburg.  "I wish the conference continued success and look forward to maintaining relationships with NEFC members."

The NEFC, with 16 members divided into two divisions, is the largest Division III football conference in the nation.  The Conference's championship game between the winners of the two divisions is also unique among Division III football.

Dating back to 2003, the first season of varsity competition for Endicott, eight of the nine conference champions have been from one of the remaining institutions in the newly restructured NEFC.  Historically, Endicott holds a 31-16 record against Curry, Maine Maritime, MIT, Nichols, Salve Regina and Western New England and a 10-1 mark over the past two seasons.  The Gulls have never faced Coast Guard in their nine-year history.

The Blue and Green earned their first ever NEFC title in 2010 which led to an appearance in the NCAA Division III Tournament.  Behind strong leadership and immense skill from their senior class, the Gulls followed up their record-breaking 2010 campaign with an even more impressive season in 2011.  All-time records across offense, defense and special teams resulted in a program-best 11 wins and an Eastern College Athletic Conference (ECAC) North Atlantic Bowl victory over Mount Ida, 31-22.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on February 09, 2012, 05:45:34 PM
Looks like the NEFC is getting broken up in the next couple years?  I just saw a press clipping that Plymouth State is joining a new conferance being started up in Mass....Most of the Mass State Colleges are in it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: softballrz on February 09, 2012, 09:58:15 PM
yes, there is a two year wait for the new conference
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on February 10, 2012, 07:57:25 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on February 09, 2012, 05:45:34 PM
Looks like the NEFC is getting broken up in the next couple years?  I just saw a press clipping that Plymouth State is joining a new conferance being started up in Mass....Most of the Mass State Colleges are in it.

Uhhhhhhh, did you read the post above yours????
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 10, 2012, 01:44:39 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on February 10, 2012, 07:57:25 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on February 09, 2012, 05:45:34 PM
Looks like the NEFC is getting broken up in the next couple years?  I just saw a press clipping that Plymouth State is joining a new conferance being started up in Mass....Most of the Mass State Colleges are in it.

Uhhhhhhh, did you read the post above yours????

LOL!  Sometimes I wonder if the people that post in this conference live in another dimension  ;)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on February 11, 2012, 04:28:25 PM
Wow, more board hero's! lol

There was some type of problem with my post.  I sent it from work, sometime around 9 or 10 am but for some reason it didn't post until 5pm?????

Anyways, your responses impressed me, not.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on February 11, 2012, 06:25:37 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on February 11, 2012, 04:28:25 PM
Wow, more board hero's! lol

There was some type of problem with my post.  I sent it from work, sometime around 9 or 10 am but for some reason it didn't post until 5pm?????

Anyways, your responses impressed me, not.

I posted this response to your post today on Friday, but it didn't post until today.  I knew ahead of time that you wouldn't be impressed so i responded early.  I also knew something would go wrong with my post because I sent it from an Internet Cafe in Thailand.  Boom.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on February 12, 2012, 10:30:10 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on February 11, 2012, 06:25:37 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on December 31, 2056, 09:55:45 PM
Wow, more board hero's! lol

There was some type of problem with my post.  I sent it from work, sometime around 9 or 10 am but for some reason it didn't post until 5pm?????

Anyways, your responses impressed me, not.

I posted this response to your post today on Friday, but it didn't post until today.  I knew ahead of time that you wouldn't be impressed so i responded early.  I also knew something would go wrong with my post because I sent it from an Internet Cafe in Thailand.  Boom.

Don't mess with this guy LD.  Look at when he posted this! 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on February 13, 2012, 09:40:48 AM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on August 31, 2050, 02:22:23 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on February 11, 2012, 06:25:37 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on December 31, 2056, 09:55:45 PM
Wow, more board hero's! lol

There was some type of problem with my post.  I sent it from work, sometime around 9 or 10 am but for some reason it didn't post until 5pm?????

Anyways, your responses impressed me, not.

I posted this response to your post today on Friday, but it didn't post until today.  I knew ahead of time that you wouldn't be impressed so i responded early.  I also knew something would go wrong with my post because I sent it from an Internet Cafe in Thailand.  Boom.

Don't mess with this guy LD.  Look at when he posted this!

Good one, Jonny! +K
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Charles on April 29, 2012, 06:14:29 AM
Endicott Gulls have 2 players drafted to the NFL, congrats.

Kevin Eagan, DE, Endicott, Colts
Taylor Allen, TE, Endicott, Jaguars

So the Lew Dogg really showed his evaluation of talent,.
"I watched several amazing D1 games tonight and in none of them did I see anything nearly as ridiculous as Endicott's D tackle that was half naked with his jersey barely covering his shoulder pads. He looked ridiculous and if Mt Ida had more than 6 fans, he would have been a field day for heckling from the sidelines. Do some squats dude."
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mattvsmith on April 29, 2012, 06:47:33 AM
Quote from: Charles on April 29, 2012, 06:14:29 AM
Endicott Gulls have 2 players drafted to the NFL, congrats.

Kevin Eagan, DE, Endicott, Colts
Taylor Allen, TE, Endicott, Jaguars

So the Lew Dogg really showed his evaluation of talent,.
"I watched several amazing D1 games tonight and in none of them did I see anything nearly as ridiculous as Endicott's D tackle that was half naked with his jersey barely covering his shoulder pads. He looked ridiculous and if Mt Ida had more than 6 fans, he would have been a field day for heckling from the sidelines. Do some squats dude."

LewDawg criticized the defensive tackle. The two Endicott players drafted are a Defensive End and a Tight End. Where did LD go wrong? If the player LD busted on had been drafted, you would have a point and you could throw it back in his face. As it is...meh.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Charles on April 29, 2012, 10:32:24 AM
Quote from: Rt Rev J.H. Hobart on April 29, 2012, 06:47:33 AM
Quote from: Charles on April 29, 2012, 06:14:29 AM
Endicott Gulls have 2 players drafted to the NFL, congrats.

Kevin Eagan, DE, Endicott, Colts
Taylor Allen, TE, Endicott, Jaguars

So the Lew Dogg really showed his evaluation of talent,.
"I watched several amazing D1 games tonight and in none of them did I see anything nearly as ridiculous as Endicott's D tackle that was half naked with his jersey barely covering his shoulder pads. He looked ridiculous and if Mt Ida had more than 6 fans, he would have been a field day for heckling from the sidelines. Do some squats dude."

LewDawg criticized the defensive tackle. The two Endicott players drafted are a Defensive End and a Tight End. Where did LD go wrong? If the player LD busted on had been drafted, you would have a point and you could throw it back in his face. As it is...meh.

He was refering to Eagan. Look it up.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mattvsmith on April 29, 2012, 10:38:48 AM
Quote from: Charles on April 29, 2012, 10:32:24 AM
Quote from: Rt Rev J.H. Hobart on April 29, 2012, 06:47:33 AM
Quote from: Charles on April 29, 2012, 06:14:29 AM
Endicott Gulls have 2 players drafted to the NFL, congrats.

Kevin Eagan, DE, Endicott, Colts
Taylor Allen, TE, Endicott, Jaguars

So the Lew Dogg really showed his evaluation of talent,.
"I watched several amazing D1 games tonight and in none of them did I see anything nearly as ridiculous as Endicott's D tackle that was half naked with his jersey barely covering his shoulder pads. He looked ridiculous and if Mt Ida had more than 6 fans, he would have been a field day for heckling from the sidelines. Do some squats dude."

LewDawg criticized the defensive tackle. The two Endicott players drafted are a Defensive End and a Tight End. Where did LD go wrong? If the player LD busted on had been drafted, you would have a point and you could throw it back in his face. As it is...meh.

He was refering to Eagan. Look it up.

I tell you what, since it's your axe to grind, you look it up.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on April 29, 2012, 12:16:18 PM
Quote from: Charles on April 29, 2012, 06:14:29 AM
Endicott Gulls have 2 players drafted to the NFL, congrats.

Kevin Eagan, DE, Endicott, Colts
Taylor Allen, TE, Endicott, Jaguars

So the Lew Dogg really showed his evaluation of talent,.
"I watched several amazing D1 games tonight and in none of them did I see anything nearly as ridiculous as Endicott's D tackle that was half naked with his jersey barely covering his shoulder pads. He looked ridiculous and if Mt Ida had more than 6 fans, he would have been a field day for heckling from the sidelines. Do some squats dude."

Charles neither one of those players were drafted.  Thry are free agents and can be cut at any time and are never guarenteed any money or spot on an nfl team at this point.

And I can confirm that Eagan looked like a clown on the football field.  He literally looked like lattimore from 'the program'.  His shirt was 5 sizes too small, and his jersey looked like it was borrowed from the Beverly, Ma Pop Warner program.  And yes, his legs were small.  I've watched a ton of college and high school football and I haven't seen someone like him in a long time.

And I don't believe LD critiqued his play, just how he looked.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Charles on April 29, 2012, 12:36:14 PM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on April 29, 2012, 12:16:18 PM
Quote from: Charles on April 29, 2012, 06:14:29 AM
Endicott Gulls have 2 players drafted to the NFL, congrats.

Kevin Eagan, DE, Endicott, Colts
Taylor Allen, TE, Endicott, Jaguars

So the Lew Dogg really showed his evaluation of talent,.
"I watched several amazing D1 games tonight and in none of them did I see anything nearly as ridiculous as Endicott's D tackle that was half naked with his jersey barely covering his shoulder pads. He looked ridiculous and if Mt Ida had more than 6 fans, he would have been a field day for heckling from the sidelines. Do some squats dude."

Charles neither one of those players were drafted.  Thry are free agents and can be cut at any time and are never guarenteed any money or spot on an nfl team at this point.

And I can confirm that Eagan looked like a clown on the football field.  He literally looked like lattimore from 'the program'.  His shirt was 5 sizes too small, and his jersey looked like it was borrowed from the Beverly, Ma Pop Warner program.  And yes, his legs were small.  I've watched a ton of college and high school football and I haven't seen someone like him in a long time.

And I don't believe LD critiqued his play, just how he looked.

just admit you were both wrong and that neither of you really know that much about what you write. ha, ha, ha...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on April 29, 2012, 12:40:54 PM
Quote from: Charles on April 29, 2012, 12:36:14 PM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on April 29, 2012, 12:16:18 PM
Quote from: Charles on April 29, 2012, 06:14:29 AM
Endicott Gulls have 2 players drafted to the NFL, congrats.

Kevin Eagan, DE, Endicott, Colts
Taylor Allen, TE, Endicott, Jaguars

So the Lew Dogg really showed his evaluation of talent,.
"I watched several amazing D1 games tonight and in none of them did I see anything nearly as ridiculous as Endicott's D tackle that was half naked with his jersey barely covering his shoulder pads. He looked ridiculous and if Mt Ida had more than 6 fans, he would have been a field day for heckling from the sidelines. Do some squats dude."

Charles neither one of those players were drafted.  Thry are free agents and can be cut at any time and are never guarenteed any money or spot on an nfl team at this point.

And I can confirm that Eagan looked like a clown on the football field.  He literally looked like lattimore from 'the program'.  His shirt was 5 sizes too small, and his jersey looked like it was borrowed from the Beverly, Ma Pop Warner program.  And yes, his legs were small.  I've watched a ton of college and high school football and I haven't seen someone like him in a long time.

And I don't believe LD critiqued his play, just how he looked.

just admit you were both wrong and that neither of you really know that much about what you write. ha, ha, ha...

Wrong about what?  He looked like a clown.  And he wasnt drafted.  This is what he said by tHe way:

Quote23
East Region football / Re: East Region Playoff Discussion
« on: November 20, 2011, 02:04:47 am »
Great post Frank. Totally agree with your assessment.  Awesome day for the East Region.

That said, I figured that I'd share my experience today.

I caught the Endicott/Mt Ida game with "Utes". Let's just start off nice and say that the NCAA made a great decision by taking St John Fisher. Both having down years, I'm pretty confident that both RPI and Ithaca would have won the NEFC this year.

Outside of Norwich, Endicott(or Mt Ida) would have not competed in any playoff games today. Both teams had some really talented kids. I won't take that away. To be honest, I was surprised at how athletic and put together some of the Mt Ida kids were. They gained more respect from me today than anything. But EC is somewhere around Hartwick or St.Lawrence level(this year's versions) at best. Good athletes, decent size, but just not on the same level.

Lastly, I watched several amazing D1 games tonight and in none of them did I see anything nearly as ridiculous as Endicott's D tackle that was half naked with his jersey barely covering his shoulder pads. He looked ridiculous and if Mt Ida had more than 6 fans, he would have been a field day for heckling from the sidelines. Do some squats dude.

Charles, my apologies that I didn't come away in awe. Til next year...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 29, 2012, 11:28:18 PM
Quote from: Charles on April 29, 2012, 12:36:14 PM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on April 29, 2012, 12:16:18 PM
Quote from: Charles on April 29, 2012, 06:14:29 AM
Endicott Gulls have 2 players drafted to the NFL, congrats.

Kevin Eagan, DE, Endicott, Colts
Taylor Allen, TE, Endicott, Jaguars

So the Lew Dogg really showed his evaluation of talent,.
"I watched several amazing D1 games tonight and in none of them did I see anything nearly as ridiculous as Endicott's D tackle that was half naked with his jersey barely covering his shoulder pads. He looked ridiculous and if Mt Ida had more than 6 fans, he would have been a field day for heckling from the sidelines. Do some squats dude."

Charles neither one of those players were drafted.  Thry are free agents and can be cut at any time and are never guarenteed any money or spot on an nfl team at this point.

And I can confirm that Eagan looked like a clown on the football field.  He literally looked like lattimore from 'the program'.  His shirt was 5 sizes too small, and his jersey looked like it was borrowed from the Beverly, Ma Pop Warner program.  And yes, his legs were small.  I've watched a ton of college and high school football and I haven't seen someone like him in a long time.

And I don't believe LD critiqued his play, just how he looked.

just admit you were both wrong and that neither of you really know that much about what you write. ha, ha, ha...

When you come back after four months off to say I told you so, you should try getting your facts right. Not drafted.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Charles on April 30, 2012, 05:42:16 AM
Quote
When you come back after four months off to say I told you so, you should try getting your facts right. Not drafted.

Pat, you spent 4 months bashing Endicott and the NEFC and allowing unacceptable comments of student athletes. Time to move on.

(Edited to fix formatting/pc)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on April 30, 2012, 06:32:02 AM
Quote from: Charles on April 30, 2012, 05:42:16 AM
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When you come back after four months off to say I told you so, you should try getting your facts right. Not drafted.

Pat, you spent 4 months bashing Endicott and the NEFC and allowing unacceptable comments of student athletes. Time to move on.
[/quote]

Fair enough Charles.  You were wrong, admitted it, and now want to move on.  Apology accepted.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on April 30, 2012, 06:42:40 AM
You are right about saying bad things about the kids though.  Remember when LD said this:

"Would that bet include the Cortland State gym teachers watching from the stands? Since the closest the will come to the NCAAs will be watching with you in your basement. Endicott would destroy The Cortland State gym teachers this year. Last year was a gift."

Oh wait you said that.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on April 30, 2012, 09:42:40 AM
Charles,

Did you eat paint chips as a kid? Perhaps maybe hit your head a few times on concrete? Or are you just 14 years old?

You have never once made a valid point on this site.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 30, 2012, 10:27:40 AM
Quote from: Charles on April 30, 2012, 05:42:16 AM
Quote
When you come back after four months off to say I told you so, you should try getting your facts right. Not drafted.

Pat, you spent 4 months bashing Endicott and the NEFC and allowing unacceptable comments of student athletes. Time to move on.

I don't believe I did anything of the kind. If anything, I reported facts about record and strength of schedule.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on April 30, 2012, 10:43:31 AM
Charles in Charge...?(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fsource%3Dimglanding%26amp%3Bct%3Dimg%26amp%3Bq%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.totallythebomb.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F10%2Fscottbaio2.jpg%26amp%3Bsa%3DX%26amp%3Bei%3D0KSeT4KhBuOJ6AGFkZH3Dg%26amp%3Bved%3D0CAsQ8wc%26amp%3Busg%3DAFQjCNHVOyFtNw5tBIXOg1xKbZg65M1Mow&hash=52a7aa76b8642a49c3238fe1cab4814015b0fa78)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on April 30, 2012, 11:21:45 AM
I don't want Charles in Charge of me!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on April 30, 2012, 02:57:54 PM
Jesus H what did I miss here? 

I am seriously thinking Charles is a 15 year old little brother of someone on Endicott.  I find it hard to believe otherwise due to several reasons, all being very evident.

Regarding the dude with the tiny little shirt and bird legs, here is the link to Endicott's article...you guys take a look at the picture, then imagine the 360 degree angle, and you make the call.  I didn't see one guy on Alabama wearing something like that.  Maybe he just wanted to show everyone his last name tattoo.  That's my guess.

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ecgulls.com%2Fimages%2F2012%2F4%2F29%2Frp_primary_Taylor_Allen%2C_Kevin_Eagan.jpg&hash=f047ec6b1b08b1c46d7f9c62d90717772ea216a0)

http://www.ecgulls.com/news/2012/4/29/FB_0429122647.aspx

FYI - This pic is pregame so imagine this thing riding way up there by the 2nd quarter...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 30, 2012, 06:04:53 PM
Between his two profiles, Charles has racked up some impressive negative karma.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on April 30, 2012, 06:33:15 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 30, 2012, 06:04:53 PM
Between his two profiles, Charles has racked up some impressive negative karma.

Nice!  Come on Pat, fill us in.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on April 30, 2012, 06:40:54 PM
And just so I'm clear, I like Endicott, and the Mt. Ida ECAC game really impressed me.  I hadn't seen Mt. Ida in a few years, and they have improved tremendously. 

I do remember Endicott's tight end as well.  Real good size and pretty smooth.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on April 30, 2012, 06:41:37 PM
Softballrz? Lol, thats the person I can think of off the top of my head.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on April 30, 2012, 06:48:40 PM
Quote from: pg04 on April 30, 2012, 06:41:37 PM
Softballrz? Lol, thats the person I can think of off the top of my head.

Softballrz did have a unique last name as someone who played for endicott......
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on May 13, 2012, 01:44:11 PM
Article in the Boston Globe West about Endicott's Allen.  You can't read it online without paying for the service (stupid globe), but it was a good article.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/regionals/west/2012/05/12/westborough-allen-bidding-earn-his-snaps-nfl/YJz7wauCeWEKSFrAMVtv8L/story.html
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on May 16, 2012, 06:45:08 PM
Here is the article on another part of the Website

http://www.boston.com/sports/schools/football/articles/2012/05/13/westboroughs_allen_bidding_to_earn_his_snaps_in_the_nfl/
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Charles on June 02, 2012, 04:09:58 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on April 30, 2012, 02:57:54 PM
Jesus H what did I miss here? 

I am seriously thinking Charles is a 15 year old little brother of someone on Endicott.  I find it hard to believe otherwise due to several reasons, all being very evident.

Regarding the dude with the tiny little shirt and bird legs, here is the link to Endicott's article...you guys take a look at the picture, then imagine the 360 degree angle, and you make the call.  I didn't see one guy on Alabama wearing something like that.  Maybe he just wanted to show everyone his last name tattoo.  That's my guess.

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ecgulls.com%2Fimages%2F2012%2F4%2F29%2Frp_primary_Taylor_Allen%2C_Kevin_Eagan.jpg&hash=f047ec6b1b08b1c46d7f9c62d90717772ea216a0)

http://www.ecgulls.com/news/2012/4/29/FB_0429122647.aspx

FYI - This pic is pregame so imagine this thing riding way up there by the 2nd quarter...

Congrats to Kevin Eagan.

http://www.colts.com/team/roster/Kevin-Eagan/602d4da0-3b7d-4d37-b341-0a0ef79ef840
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on June 04, 2012, 10:44:48 AM
Quote from: Charles on June 02, 2012, 04:09:58 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on April 30, 2012, 02:57:54 PM
Jesus H what did I miss here? 

I am seriously thinking Charles is a 15 year old little brother of someone on Endicott.  I find it hard to believe otherwise due to several reasons, all being very evident.

Regarding the dude with the tiny little shirt and bird legs, here is the link to Endicott's article...you guys take a look at the picture, then imagine the 360 degree angle, and you make the call.  I didn't see one guy on Alabama wearing something like that.  Maybe he just wanted to show everyone his last name tattoo.  That's my guess.

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ecgulls.com%2Fimages%2F2012%2F4%2F29%2Frp_primary_Taylor_Allen%2C_Kevin_Eagan.jpg&hash=f047ec6b1b08b1c46d7f9c62d90717772ea216a0)

http://www.ecgulls.com/news/2012/4/29/FB_0429122647.aspx

FYI - This pic is pregame so imagine this thing riding way up there by the 2nd quarter...

Congrats to Kevin Eagan.

http://www.colts.com/team/roster/Kevin-Eagan/602d4da0-3b7d-4d37-b341-0a0ef79ef840

If Kevin did indeed make the squad than  a big time congrats are in order. ****, even if he didn't, congrats for getting the invite! Also, congrats to Charles for continuing to be a ****ing tool.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 04, 2012, 12:59:00 PM
Quote from: dlip on June 04, 2012, 10:44:48 AM

If Kevin did indeed make the squad than  a big time congrats are in order. ****, even if he didn't, congrats for getting the invite!

He did get a free-agent contract -- more in our story, last updated May 13.

http://www.d3football.com/notables/2012/04/tanney-carrier-more-get-camp_invites
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on June 06, 2012, 05:59:30 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 04, 2012, 12:59:00 PM
Quote from: dlip on June 04, 2012, 10:44:48 AM

If Kevin did indeed make the squad than  a big time congrats are in order. ****, even if he didn't, congrats for getting the invite!

He did get a free-agent contract -- more in our story, last updated May 13.

http://www.d3football.com/notables/2012/04/tanney-carrier-more-get-camp_invites

Kevin was just released yesterday by the Colts. No reason was given, just "cut"
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on June 06, 2012, 06:13:17 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on June 06, 2012, 05:59:30 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 04, 2012, 12:59:00 PM
Quote from: dlip on June 04, 2012, 10:44:48 AM

If Kevin did indeed make the squad than  a big time congrats are in order. ****, even if he didn't, congrats for getting the invite!

He did get a free-agent contract -- more in our story, last updated May 13.

http://www.d3football.com/notables/2012/04/tanney-carrier-more-get-camp_invites

Kevin was just released yesterday by the Colts. No reason was given, just "cut"

The probably didn't have any XSmall jerseys.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUKaz00 on June 07, 2012, 09:53:42 AM
Quote from: InTheMix on June 06, 2012, 05:59:30 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 04, 2012, 12:59:00 PM
Quote from: dlip on June 04, 2012, 10:44:48 AM

If Kevin did indeed make the squad than  a big time congrats are in order. ****, even if he didn't, congrats for getting the invite!

He did get a free-agent contract -- more in our story, last updated May 13.

http://www.d3football.com/notables/2012/04/tanney-carrier-more-get-camp_invites

Kevin was just released yesterday by the Colts. No reason was given, just "cut"

It seems they wanted to make room for a WR, though there is a rumor that Kevin quit the team (http://twitter.com/RavensInsider/status/210043115069898753).
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: InTheMix on June 07, 2012, 12:21:42 PM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on June 07, 2012, 09:53:42 AM
Quote from: InTheMix on June 06, 2012, 05:59:30 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 04, 2012, 12:59:00 PM
Quote from: dlip on June 04, 2012, 10:44:48 AM

If Kevin did indeed make the squad than  a big time congrats are in order. ****, even if he didn't, congrats for getting the invite!

He did get a free-agent contract -- more in our story, last updated May 13.

http://www.d3football.com/notables/2012/04/tanney-carrier-more-get-camp_invites

Kevin was just released yesterday by the Colts. No reason was given, just "cut"

It seems they wanted to make room for a WR, though there is a rumor that Kevin quit the team (http://twitter.com/RavensInsider/status/210043115069898753).

Just to follow-up, I found an article about it all

http://www.stampedeblue.com/2012/6/5/3065644/colts-waive-rookie-de-kevin-eagan-after-he-leaves-team
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on June 07, 2012, 02:05:31 PM
Well dlip hopes the kid is O.K. and wished him the best in his future, whatever direction it takes him.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on June 07, 2012, 07:58:54 PM
Quote from: dlip on June 07, 2012, 02:05:31 PM
Well dlip hopes the kid is O.K. and wished him the best in his future, whatever direction it takes him.

Yea I don't want to beat up on the kid.  Let's hope he gets the help he needs. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on June 08, 2012, 10:12:39 AM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on June 06, 2012, 06:13:17 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on June 06, 2012, 05:59:30 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 04, 2012, 12:59:00 PM
Quote from: dlip on June 04, 2012, 10:44:48 AM

If Kevin did indeed make the squad than  a big time congrats are in order. ****, even if he didn't, congrats for getting the invite!

He did get a free-agent contract -- more in our story, last updated May 13.

http://www.d3football.com/notables/2012/04/tanney-carrier-more-get-camp_invites

Kevin was just released yesterday by the Colts. No reason was given, just "cut"

The probably didn't have any XSmall jerseys.

I have to admit Special Agent Utah, this is one of the funniest comments i've read in a long time.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: JT on June 08, 2012, 02:23:55 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on June 08, 2012, 10:12:39 AM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on June 06, 2012, 06:13:17 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on June 06, 2012, 05:59:30 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 04, 2012, 12:59:00 PM
Quote from: dlip on June 04, 2012, 10:44:48 AM

If Kevin did indeed make the squad than  a big time congrats are in order. ****, even if he didn't, congrats for getting the invite!

He did get a free-agent contract -- more in our story, last updated May 13.

http://www.d3football.com/notables/2012/04/tanney-carrier-more-get-camp_invites

Kevin was just released yesterday by the Colts. No reason was given, just "cut"

The probably didn't have any XSmall jerseys.

I have to admit Special Agent Utah, this is one of the funniest comments i've read in a long time.

Its right up there with tugage.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Wahama on July 22, 2012, 10:17:12 AM
Interview with Western New England RB Michael Graham

http://bsncollege.com/videos/1557/857/beyond-the-sidelines-interview-w
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on August 14, 2012, 05:28:19 PM
My money is on Salve Regina to have a breakout year.  Coach Chesney will have his boys ready!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on August 26, 2012, 04:06:42 PM
ANYONE INTERESTED IN BEING PART OF THE 2012 TOP 25 FAN POLL (http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=7065.msg1434525#msg1434525):
Please send me a PM with your ballot. I'd like to get a preseason poll up by Thursday night.

During the season ballots shall be due by Tuesdays so I can get them up Tuesday night.

Remember, this is just fun and we aren't part of the BCS Formula... yet ;D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on September 01, 2012, 04:46:16 PM
dlip just wanted to congratulate the Salve Regina Seahawks on their 17-14 win over Union College today in Schenectady. Salve is a good football team with some talented players. Both teams played their hearts out this afternoon and deserve credit. Dlip was quite impressed with the Soph QB Wilken. He made some very good plays with his arm and his legs today. Good luck to Salve on the rest of their season. Dlip gives you credit for scheduling the tough OOOC games that you are.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: softballrz on September 01, 2012, 08:41:51 PM
After graduation, It appears Endicott can't run the ball.  The individual stats from today are terrible. But, the D is still strong and a fg from 50 is positive.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on September 04, 2012, 06:49:28 AM
I want to second the compliment to Coach Chesney and Salve for stepping up to the plate and not only playing a stronger team in the out of conferance game, but for the second year in a row beating them.  This is how you start to get recognition out of your area!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: footballfan413 on September 08, 2012, 05:11:54 PM
To fans of D-3 football everywhere.  I am honored to have been asked to spread the word regarding a new cancer fund that has been established to help Tom Pattison, UW-W sports broadcaster and founder of www.warhawkfootball.com    I and my family know, all to well, how a cancer diagnosis can be devastating to a families daily lives and finances. Please, consider making even the smallest donation to Tom.

The following is an open letter by Retired UW-W Coach Bob Berezowitz:

Team Tom Cancer Fund Drive established

Once a Warhawk, always a Warhawk are the often spoken words by Tom Pattison, longtime "voice" of the Warhawks. Over the many years of broadcasting UW-Whitewater football, basketball and baseball games on KOOL 106.5 (and prior to that (940 WFAW), Tom has "bled purple" during each one of his broadcasts.

Unfortunately, on May 28, 2012 Tom was diagnosed with advanced stage 2 colon cancer. He underwent colorectal cancer surgery in Fort Atkinson and in the process has developed astronomical hospital and medical bills.

Tom has already gone through the first phase of radiation treatment at the UW Cancer Clinic along with chemotherapy with phase two starting later this month.

Tom has given his heart and soul to Warhawk athletics over his 25 years of living here in southern Wisconsin. He served six years as the president of the UW-Whitewater Quarterback Club and still serves on the club's board of directors.

In 2003 Tom founded Warhawkfootball.com where Warhawk fans, players, former players and parents have been able to view up-to-date Warhawk football news and information 365 days a year. Nearly 1.5 million visitors have clicked onto the Website over the years.

The Website that has been funded entirely by Tom has been a popular "voice" for Warhawk football fans not only locally but around the world.

Well now Tom needs your assistance in his battle with cancer.

With the help and leadership of UW-Whitewater Director of Intercollegiate Athletics Dr. Paul Plinke and former Warhawk football coach Bob Berezowitz and KOOL 106.5 Radio a team has been set up to lead a campaign to raise funds for Tom.

The "Team Tom Cancer Fund" has been established through Commercial Bank in Whitewater and is now accepting donations.

Donations may be sent to: Team Tom Cancer Fund, c/o Commercial Bank, 200 South Freemont St. Whitewater, WI 53190


The fund raising drive will also include Tom Pattison Day at Perkins Stadium on Oct. 6, 2012. More details will be announced shortly.

"I have known Tom for many years while coaching and now in retirement," Berezowitz said. "There is not another person who has given more of himself to help promote UW-Whitewater football. He is always writing articles for both past and present players that are published on his Website.

It is now our turn to say "thank you" for his efforts by considering making a donation to the to assist Tom in his time of need.

Go Warhawks,
Bob Berezowitz
UW-Whitewater Football Coach/Retired
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on September 09, 2012, 08:37:58 AM
I've gotta post something.  How can Salve beat two teams in the last two weeks, and Worc beat WPI this week and nobody from either leagues be on here posting?  I follow here because my son looked at Salve a couple years ago and I really liked the Head Coach. 

Congrats to Coach Chesney on winning another game against a strong out of league opponent!  He's doing everything he said he was going to when we were there looking.  I think he's got a good blueprint for building a very strong program!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on September 09, 2012, 10:23:24 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on September 09, 2012, 08:37:58 AM
I've gotta post something.  How can Salve beat two teams in the last two weeks, and Worc beat WPI this week and nobody from either leagues be on here posting?  I follow here because my son looked at Salve a couple years ago and I really liked the Head Coach. 

Congrats to Coach Chesney on winning another game against a strong out of league opponent!  He's doing everything he said he was going to when we were there looking.  I think he's got a good blueprint for building a very strong program!

Because people respect Salve's program, Montclair is down, and WPI sucks.  Translation - I don't think these results shocked anyone.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on September 09, 2012, 11:28:17 AM
My post was more geared to the followers from the NEFC.  Not the board junkies.  I already know you only think there are 20 to 30 teams in the entire d3 that are worthy.  LOL!  I want the NEFC parents to get involved!  There are some good players and programs there!  Stand up and be counted!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on September 09, 2012, 02:55:35 PM
Your post says 'nobody from other leagues be on here posting?'

So I posted.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: FBP on September 09, 2012, 05:16:46 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on September 09, 2012, 08:37:58 AM
I've gotta post something.  How can Salve beat two teams in the last two weeks, and Worc beat WPI this week and nobody from either leagues be on here posting?  I follow here because my son looked at Salve a couple years ago and I really liked the Head Coach. 

Congrats to Coach Chesney on winning another game against a strong out of league opponent!  He's doing everything he said he was going to when we were there looking.  I think he's got a good blueprint for building a very strong program!

Congratulations to Coach Chesney and the Salve Football team for their win against Montclaire yesterday. I was so looking forward to the game and was not disappointed!

My son plays for Salve and I agree with fulbakdad that Coach Chesney really IS doing everything he said he wanted to do with the football program.  It's a work in progress, that is definitely going in the right direction!

Congrats on both OOC wins!

Good Luck with the upcoming conference league games!  GO SEAHAWKS!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on September 09, 2012, 05:25:06 PM
Lew Dog, My post said nobody from either league, not nobody from other leagues.  Either league would be Bogan or Boyd.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on September 09, 2012, 05:27:17 PM
FBP, What position does your son play? 

I think he made a great decision to go there.  Great coaches are hard to come by.  We lucked out where our son ended up too. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on September 09, 2012, 05:45:48 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on September 09, 2012, 05:25:06 PM
Lew Dog, My post said nobody from either league, not nobody from other leagues.  Either league would be Bogan or Boyd.

Me LewDogg don't read good.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 09, 2012, 10:04:50 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on September 09, 2012, 05:45:48 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on September 09, 2012, 05:25:06 PM
Lew Dog, My post said nobody from either league, not nobody from other leagues.  Either league would be Bogan or Boyd.

Me LewDogg don't read good.

Dumbass.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on September 10, 2012, 11:47:03 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on September 09, 2012, 10:23:24 AM
Because people respect Salve's program, Montclair is down, and WPI sucks.  Translation - I don't think these results shocked anyone.

I think you're right, LewDogg.  Those results are not particularly shocking - especially given Salve's record last year.  With that said, I still think it's nice to see the NEFC and ECFC post a few wins against other conferences. 

Salve's wins over Union and Montclair State are obviously the "headliners" because those are traditionally decent programs.  Worcester State beating WPI, while WPI sucks, is still noteworthy because it's not like Worcester State has dominated the NEFC recently; even playing in the weak NEFC, last year was their first winning season since 2004.  Also, Bridgewater State beat Springfield, which has generally been a competitive-to-good program in the Empire 8.  Norwich beating St. Lawrence is a nice win for the ECFC, too; last year Norwich LOST to St. Lawrence and then swept the ECFC.

Yes, all of the aforementioned teams are in the lower rungs of the better East conferences (E8, LL, NJAC).  But over the last few years we'd seen a disturbing trend that the top NEFC and/or ECFC teams couldn't beat ANYONE in those conferences (i.e. last year Norwich lost to St. Lawrence and then swept the ECFC).  Are the E8, LL, and NJAC still better top to bottom?  Of course.  But at least now there's hope that perhaps the NEFC/ECFC champion wouldn't finish dead-last in each of those respective "power" conferences.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on September 10, 2012, 12:05:20 PM
I will say this...if Salve runs the table in the NEFC (and I really hope that they do), I will absolutely be the first to say that they would be a completely worthy recipient of an automatic bid this year.  Who knows where Union and Montclair State end up finishing...but I give kudos to Salve for not being the "normal" NEFC team (looking at you Curry, Endicott, and WNEC) and scheduling only NEFC and ECFC opponents.  If they (Salve) are 10-0 at the end of the year, with non-conference wins over two "good" opponents from much stronger leagues (LL and NJAC), than good for them...and they absolutely deserve their bid.

I said it last year when the Endicott folks were pissed about being left out on Selection Sunday.  You want a blue print for future success...look no further than what Salve is looking to accomplish with their out of conference scheduling.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on September 10, 2012, 12:46:09 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on September 10, 2012, 11:47:03 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on September 09, 2012, 10:23:24 AM
Because people respect Salve's program, Montclair is down, and WPI sucks.  Translation - I don't think these results shocked anyone.

I think you're right, LewDogg.  Those results are not particularly shocking - especially given Salve's record last year.  With that said, I still think it's nice to see the NEFC and ECFC post a few wins against other conferences. 

Salve's wins over Union and Montclair State are obviously the "headliners" because those are traditionally decent programs.  Worcester State beating WPI, while WPI sucks, is still noteworthy because it's not like Worcester State has dominated the NEFC recently; even playing in the weak NEFC, last year was their first winning season since 2004.  Also, Bridgewater State beat Springfield, which has generally been a competitive-to-good program in the Empire 8.  Norwich beating St. Lawrence is a nice win for the ECFC, too; last year Norwich LOST to St. Lawrence and then swept the ECFC.

Yes, all of the aforementioned teams are in the lower rungs of the better East conferences (E8, LL, NJAC).  But over the last few years we'd seen a disturbing trend that the top NEFC and/or ECFC teams couldn't beat ANYONE in those conferences (i.e. last year Norwich lost to St. Lawrence and then swept the ECFC).  Are the E8, LL, and NJAC still better top to bottom?  Of course.  But at least now there's hope that perhaps the NEFC/ECFC champion wouldn't finish dead-last in each of those respective "power" conferences.

Yeah totally agreed.  Although you'll be hard-pressed to find anyone who sees a big difference between lower tier LL/NJAC/E8 teams, and mid-upper level NEFC/ECFC teams, at least traditionally.  Salve and Endicott appear to be on the rise, taking the reigns from Curry.  Right now, Salve has the edge because of their scheduling.  But we'll see when they play each other if there's a difference.

It's tough to really take St. Lawrence seriously ever(or WPI or MMA) not because they don't have good athletes, but because they are so inconsistent and all over the place.  They all almost always win a head-scratcher each season, but can't beat anyone else. 

Bridgewater over Springfield was a big surprise to me.  But I may have over-estimated how good Springfield would be this year.  Even a 36-2 win over Husson actually feels like they really aren't very good this year.

I have to agree with Yanks that I might be pulling a little for Salve because of their scheduling.  The season is young, and we don't know much yet.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: SUADC on September 10, 2012, 04:21:56 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on September 10, 2012, 12:46:09 PM
  Salve and Endicott appear to be on the rise, taking the reigns from Curry. 

I had a chance to watch both Salve and Endicott games on my dual screen, before I took my drive to Salisbury. I was very impress with Endicott's dominance, they appear and only appear to have the talent to take on some of the top teams in the other conferences. However, I believe the lack of OOC scheduling leads me to conclude that it will be tough for them if they make it to the playoffs and win because of the lack of showing against other teams outside of the NEFC. It is easy to dominate a game, when you know your more talented, yet it is hard to go toe to toe against teams with similar or better talent than yourself without the experience, it showed in 2010 in their game against Cortland State. As for Salve, as Lew said, they may be on the rise to take the reigns of that of Curry, because of the OOC scheduling and I applaud them for that. I actually picked them to beat Montclair, they controlled the game on both sides of the ball last weekend and proved they have the moxie. Hopefully in a couple weeks, the Salve v. Endicott game could be the game of the week in the East.

Nevertheless, maybe when the conference actually split, these teams will schedule tougher OOC opponents, when they know it will not affect their playoff hopes, but for right now, Salve is taking the appropriate steps to becoming a top-tier East team. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 10, 2012, 04:34:08 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on September 10, 2012, 12:05:20 PM
I will say this...if Salve runs the table in the NEFC (and I really hope that they do), I will absolutely be the first to say that they would be a completely worthy recipient of an automatic bid this year.  Who knows where Union and Montclair State end up finishing...but I give kudos to Salve for not being the "normal" NEFC team (looking at you Curry, Endicott, and WNEC) and scheduling only NEFC and ECFC opponents.  If they (Salve) are 10-0 at the end of the year, with non-conference wins over two "good" opponents from much stronger leagues (LL and NJAC), than good for them...and they absolutely deserve their bid.

I said it last year when the Endicott folks were pissed about being left out on Selection Sunday.  You want a blue print for future success...look no further than what Salve is looking to accomplish with their out of conference scheduling.

This. All of it. +1
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on September 10, 2012, 05:59:25 PM
dlip was quite impressed with the Seahawks. They are a good football team. They showed resolve against Union and really do have some good football players on that team. dlip agrees with Yanks on two levels. One, he is rooting for the Seahawks this year and will be following their games. Two, if they run the table, with their two impressive OOC wins they will definitely deserve an automatic bid. Good luck Seahawks! Hopefully some other teams from the NEFC will follow in their steps and schedule some better games OOC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bombers798891 on September 11, 2012, 02:59:51 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on September 10, 2012, 12:05:20 PM
I will say this...if Salve runs the table in the NEFC (and I really hope that they do), I will absolutely be the first to say that they would be a completely worthy recipient of an automatic bid this year.  Who knows where Union and Montclair State end up finishing...but I give kudos to Salve for not being the "normal" NEFC team (looking at you Curry, Endicott, and WNEC) and scheduling only NEFC and ECFC opponents.  If they (Salve) are 10-0 at the end of the year, with non-conference wins over two "good" opponents from much stronger leagues (LL and NJAC), than good for them...and they absolutely deserve their bid.

I said it last year when the Endicott folks were pissed about being left out on Selection Sunday.  You want a blue print for future success...look no further than what Salve is looking to accomplish with their out of conference scheduling.

A 5-5 Montclair or Union would be enough for me to get on board with Salve going to the NCAAs
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on September 15, 2012, 04:57:43 PM
Early in the season, but with Salve winning today and Endicott losing pushes Salve to the front of the pack.  Watched the first quarter on video since my sons game didn't start until 2pm local and was impressed with the Salve offense.  Qb looks mobile and confident, a couple of good running backs behind what looks to be a good line.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on September 16, 2012, 12:54:10 AM
Every year i'm on the brink of jumping on the Endicott bandwagon and they blow it.  Is Bridgewater legit or does that league just plain suck?  (minus Salve?)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on September 16, 2012, 05:18:59 AM
Bridgewater State might be OK. They did beat Springfield, so they have something to hang their hat in besides NEFC wins.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 17, 2012, 11:41:47 AM
Mount Ida almost beat Springfield. Springfield is going to struggle this year with a quarterback changeover, I've been saying it from the start.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Upstate on September 20, 2012, 05:42:24 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 17, 2012, 11:41:47 AM
Mount Ida almost beat Springfield. Springfield is going to struggle this year with a quarterback changeover, I've been saying it from the start.

They almost always do when they switch out QBs...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on September 22, 2012, 07:50:34 AM
Plymouth State and WNEC both win today.  Salve beats Endicott by 2 td's to establish a buffer between them and everyone else.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on September 23, 2012, 06:10:21 AM
So Salve ripped into Endicott yesterday.  And the tweets from the powers above were leaning that they still won't be ranked.  That's unbelievable!

Nice Job Coach Chesney and his team.  You deserve better.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Upstate on September 23, 2012, 08:33:59 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on September 23, 2012, 06:10:21 AM
So Salve ripped into Endicott yesterday.  And the tweets from the powers above were leaning that they still won't be ranked.  That's unbelievable!

Nice Job Coach Chesney and his team.  You deserve better.

Your conference does not have a real strong reputation for putting out quality teams. To get ranked a team from your conference is going to have to go 10-0 in the regular season and then win a playoff game.

Do that and then they'll get ranked.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on September 23, 2012, 09:25:19 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on September 23, 2012, 06:10:21 AM
So Salve ripped into Endicott yesterday.  And the tweets from the powers above were leaning that they still won't be ranked.  That's unbelievable!

Nice Job Coach Chesney and his team.  You deserve better.
Man...cry me a river.

Look...you will see from some posts above that Salve is starting to win me over.  I am seriously considering voting for them this week for my top ten in the East Region Fan Poll.  Salve is the ONLY NEFC team to schedule even a relatively tough non-conference schedule, and they won two games this season against respected programs (Union and Montclair State).

However...here is reality check.  You beat a 1-3 Union team by three points with a 4th quarter rally...a Union team who got destroyed by Utica (Utica who will not be in my ERFP top ten and whose only loss is to nationally ranked Hobart).  You beat a 2-2 Montclair State team by 9 points whose only 2 wins are against two perennial cellar dwellers in Morrisville and William Patterson who have a total of one win between them.  You beat a 2-2 Fitchburg State team...a team that lost to freaking Becker!!!  Even Endicott is only 2-2.

Being serious for one moment...what "better" does Salve "deserve".  I mean...I am making the assumption that you are talking regional rankings here and not national rankings (because that would be absolutely crazy).  But who does Salve "deserve" to be ranked ahead in the region?  Seriously...what team being ahead of Salve in the rankings is an abortion of justice here?  I will throw out about 10-15 teams...you tell me who they should absolutley be ranked ahead of:

- Salisbury (nationally ranked and only loss to nationally ranked Wesley by 10)
- St. John Fisher (undefeated and nationally ranked with wins over two tough South Region teams in W&J and Thomas Moore)
- Hobart (undefeated and nationally ranked)
- Widener (undefeated and nationally ranked)
- RPI (undefeated with a big one over Alfred)
- Alfred (only loss to RPI, and just beat Buff State who the week before beat #1 UWW)
- Ithaca (undefeated and also beat Union in a close game like Salve)
- Buffalo State (2 losses...but also two huge wins against national #1 UWW and Cortland)
- Cortland (only one loss to Buff State in week one)
- Rowan (undefeated against Division III opponents, only loss is to a Division II school in Merrimack)
- Brockport (only loss to Kean and wins over Buff State and Lycoming)
- Lycoming (only loss to Brockport, with wins over one-loss Lebanon Valley and Albright)
- Albright (only loss to Lycoming and a win over Kean)
- Lebanon Valley (only one loss to Lycoming, and with a ten point win over Montclair)
- Utica (only loss to nationally ranked Hobart, and destroyed Union in a head to head match up)

There may be one or two that you can argue that Salve should absolutely be ranked ahead of...but no one here is screwing over Salve.  You want more respect...make some noise in the NCAA playoffs.  Play someone in the NCAA tough and down to the wire, even if you lose.  Win a game that you aren't supposed to in the NCAA's.  But arguing over that you aren't ranked, or ranked high, after 3-4 weeks because you are undefeated in the NEFC is crazy.  By that measure, I could have argued that Hartwick should have been reginonally ranked heading into this past weekend against Fisher...which would have been crazy because you have to base it off who they play/beat and how those teams are doing overall this season.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on September 23, 2012, 10:13:22 AM
Yep, that pretty much sums it up. Very well said. Dlip, like Yanks is pulling for Salve and they are growing on him. Yet it is important, at least to those of us who really get into D3 football, that one attempts to keep some realistic perspective regarding where there team sits in regards to it's region and the nation as a whole. Salve just needs to keep doing what they are doing and things will work out.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on September 23, 2012, 10:53:29 AM
A win over Endicott really isn't a signature win and probably not going to move Salve any closer to the top 25 than they were. Likely the only thing that gets them in the poll is running the regular season and having a lot of attrition in the teams already in the top 25.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mattvsmith on September 23, 2012, 11:05:38 AM
+K to Yanks 99. Preach it, brother! The Rev had similar complaints about what I perceived was my team being slighted in the rankings back about 2055-2006-ish. Nowadays, I'm kind of glad the rankings didn't come easily. Makes me prouder of my team to know how much effort they had to put into the program to reach the level they are at now. If the ranks had come when I wanted them instead of when Hobart deserved them, I'd be constantly disgruntled. As it is, I'm thrilled to be ranked 13th, and I'm very hopeful for an even better NCAA performance this year than last.

It's hard. Transforming programs into national contenders is not for the faint of heart. If real change is made, the ranks will come naturally and there will be no need to worry about them.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on September 23, 2012, 11:14:02 AM
First, Salve isn't my team.  Just one I'm following.  My team js in the MWC.......
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on September 23, 2012, 11:18:40 AM
Second, Wesley lost so isn't that a double wammy on Salsbury?.  Third, this is the same poll that keeps giving. Votes to NESCAC teams that play fewer games and NEVER play out of conference!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on September 23, 2012, 11:23:22 AM
Wesley lost to the #2 team in the nation. What is your point? Salisbury losing to Wesley shouldn't drop them completely out of the poll. Wesley with one loss >>>> Salve undefeated. And the NESCAC team isn't in the top 25 either.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on September 23, 2012, 11:29:15 AM
Amherst recieved the same number of votes as Salve in your poll.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on September 23, 2012, 11:34:08 AM
So? Now you are making distinctions about 3 points? Amherst will never move any further than that really because of the reasons you mention. Most pollsters will not vote a NESCAC team. However, as an aside, most who have witnessed Nescac have said they are good and that means probably would beat most of the NEFC. Also, it isn't my poll. It is run by this site which aI have nothing to do with.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Upstate on September 23, 2012, 11:44:17 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on September 23, 2012, 11:18:40 AM
Second, Wesley lost so isn't that a double wammy on Salsbury?.  Third, this is the same poll that keeps giving. Votes to NESCAC teams that play fewer games and NEVER play out of conference!

2-14

You know what that is?

That's the NEFC's winning percentage in the playoffs.

You guys want respect?

Do something instead of losing 87% of your playoff games.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on September 23, 2012, 11:45:01 AM
I'm curious.  Have you watched any NESCAC games?  While they would probably do well against the lowere NEFC teams, i don't believe they would against the upper ones.  They aren't as deep.  But we'll never know because they never will play out of thier conference.  Again,  this isn't my conference.  I just watch cuz of those i met while on recruiting visits.  I watched i believe 6 NESCAC games on our venture.

Additionally,  Salve is a much better team this year than they were two years ago when we were looking.  I guess we'll see how they do in the future.  I just get very frustrated with many posters on this site.  At times there are those that think there are only a handful of good teams. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on September 23, 2012, 11:49:19 AM
I have not watched any NESCAC. Just going on info from other people that have posted about it. Some who seem much less biased than you for some reason.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Upstate on September 23, 2012, 11:54:22 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on September 23, 2012, 11:45:01 AMAt times there are those that think there are only a handful of good teams.

There's a lot of good teams in the east, just none from the NEFC.

The NEFC conference champ is a .500 team AT BEST in the MAC, NJAC, E8 and LL.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on September 23, 2012, 11:56:23 AM
By the way, the person(s) voting for Amherst could very well also have put Salve on their ballot too. We don't know.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on September 23, 2012, 11:56:42 AM
Now I'm biased?  That's kind of funny.  Guess i'm not allowed to state my views from actual attendance at games but you can state your on what you've heard from others?  Those arguements don't hold up in my world.  They're called hearsay..

I will bow to the Board Elites.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on September 23, 2012, 12:02:33 PM
Well you come out of nowhere b!tching about Salve and delve into a non-sequitar about NESCAC team receiving 3 points. At the same time you somehow mention Salisbury implying you think because they lost to Wesley they should fall below Salve. We have watched many posters whine on here about respect only to have them get trounced when they play a playoff tier team.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on September 23, 2012, 12:06:48 PM
Anyway, I don't care enough to continue this any further. On to more important Sunday stuff. Good luck to Salve the rest of the season.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on September 23, 2012, 12:18:58 PM
Oh, one more thing. When implying you were biased, I don't think your assessment of the NESCAC, having actually seen them is biaser, but that you are probably overvaluing Salve. I am no board elite, just been here long enough to see posts that complain about not being in the top 25.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 23, 2012, 01:24:52 PM
I think people close to the Salve Regina program don't understand how far it is from the NEFC to the elite in Division III. It's a long, long distance. We give tons of credit to Salve for scheduling with some ... well, balls and playing a team from a power conference and a contender in a middle-of-the-pack conference. But now you get into the rest of the conference schedule, and there's almost no way to gain ranking from these games.

As a visual reminder, here's what the rest of the NEFC has out of conference this year, along with our preseason ranking, out of 239 teams:

Framingham State: NO non-conference opponents.
Mass Maritime: No. 134 SUNY-Maritime (loss)
Bridgewater State: No. 92 Springfield (win)
Worcester State: No. 238 Anna Maria (win), No. 153 WPI (win)
Fitchburg State: No. 235 Becker (loss)
Coast Guard: No. 141 Merchant Marine (loss)
Westfield State: NO non-conference opponents
Maine Maritime: No. 238 Anna Maria (loss)

Western New England: No. 133 Norwich (loss)
Curry: No. 153 WPI (loss)
Mass-Dartmouth: No. 158 Mount Ida (loss)
Plymouth State: No. 176 Castleton State (loss), No. 158 Mount Ida (loss)
Nichols: NO non-conference opponents
Endicott: No. 176 Castleton State (win)
MIT: No. 235 Becker (win)

Total non-conference games against teams not in the ECFC: Six
Best win other than Salve's two wins: Bridgewater State over Springfield

Salve Regina has done all it can -- it scheduled two Top 80 opponents and beat them both. But nobody else in the conference is stepping up. All Salve can do is win out, go 11-0. I would guess that by the end of the regular season, Salve will probably drift up into the rankings. Even Curry never got a regular season ranking in its run of conference titles. It didn't get ranked before winning an NCAA playoff game.

It is VERY difficult to make the Top 25 in Division III. There are twice as many Division III teams as Division I FBS teams, so the math means Top 25 spots are twice as hard to come by. Fulbakdad -- I know you have spent your time watching the Midwest Conference, which is better than the NEFC but also a bottom-tier league nine times out of 10.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on September 23, 2012, 05:04:04 PM
I agree with the MWC Pat.  It's been fun watching the likes of Tanney and the Linebacker from Knox, Hendricks though.

:)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 23, 2012, 07:05:32 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on September 23, 2012, 11:45:01 AM
I'm curious.  Have you watched any NESCAC games?  While they would probably do well against the lowere NEFC teams, i don't believe they would against the upper ones.  They aren't as deep.  But we'll never know because they never will play out of thier conference.  Again,  this isn't my conference.  I just watch cuz of those i met while on recruiting visits.  I watched i believe 6 NESCAC games on our venture.

Additionally,  Salve is a much better team this year than they were two years ago when we were looking.  I guess we'll see how they do in the future.  I just get very frustrated with many posters on this site.  At times there are those that think there are only a handful of good teams.

I watch a lot of nescac and NEFC games.  The nescac is a much better football conference from top to bottom.  They get all state kids fom the northeast while the NEFC does not. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on September 24, 2012, 09:06:30 AM
I totally disagree.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on September 24, 2012, 09:53:43 AM
I'll assume that you "totally disagree" with the NESCAC/NEFC comparison and that you're not STILL persisting with the argument that Salve deserves to be ranked now.  If you still really believe that, I'll repeat Pat's statement from above:

"I think people close to the Salve Regina program don't understand how far it is from the NEFC to the elite in Division III. It's a long, long distance."

Salve has done a great thing by scheduling (and winning) those games against Union and Montclair State.  At the same time, you must recognize that neither Union nor Montclair State is close to being a Top 25-caliber team right now, and Salve didn't exactly blow the doors off of either one.

Pat makes a great point that to it's very hard to be ranked in the Top 25 in Division III (and, truth be told, our rankings are still pretty inaccurate because we overvalue teams with good records vs. teams with multiple losses in really tough conferences - middle-of-the-pack WIAC, MIAC, and OAC teams often would destroy 9-1 and 8-2 teams from lesser conferences).  To earn a ranking you have to either a) beat a current Top 25 team or b) make some noise in the playoffs because, with so many teams, there just isn't enough data to adequately compare teams across regions and conferences that never compete afainst one another.  We have to include our past preconceptions about the relative strength of conferences until something actually PROVES otherwise.

As for your earlier statement:

"At times there are those that think there are only a handful of good teams."

The Division III playoff results of the last 5-7 years generally support the position that in a given season there are only a handful of GREAT teams (generally UWW, Mount, UMHB, Wesley), a few more "very good" teams (examples being Linfield, North Central, Wabash, a few of the St. John Fisher teams) and then ANOTHER step down to the next echelon of playoff teams - and those "third-echelon" teams have often annihiliated the NEFC champ in the playoffs, with the exception of 2007-08 Curry.  That speaks to Pat's above argument that there's SUCH a long way from the top of the NEFC to the top of Division III that it's laughable to even argue that an NEFC team should be ranked until it has either won a playoff game or beaten a Top 25 opponent.  Arguing that a 4-0 NEFC team that hasn't won a conference title or playoff game (and, in fact, lost TWO games to fellow NEFC opponents last year) should be ranked lies somewhere between "willful ignorance" and "outright foolishness."
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 24, 2012, 10:49:48 AM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on September 24, 2012, 09:53:43 AM
... there just isn't enough data to adequately compare teams across regions and conferences that never compete afainst one another.

Especially when a conference actively avoids playing other conferences.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on September 24, 2012, 11:54:02 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 24, 2012, 10:49:48 AM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on September 24, 2012, 09:53:43 AM
... there just isn't enough data to adequately compare teams across regions and conferences that never compete afainst one another.

Especially when a conference actively avoids playing other conferences.

To add to ExTartainPlayer and Pat...there is enough data out there to be completely suspect of the NEFC.  It is called a 2-12 record in the NCAA playoffs as a league...where in the twelve games that they lost it was by an average of almost 24 points per game.  My guess is that it would be higher if we went back and took a look at how many points were scored during garbage time in the 4th quarter when the games weren't close.

Seriously...besides Curry's two wins against Wick and Ithaca in consecutive years in the playoffs (only to get destroyed the following week by 31 to Fisher in 2007 and by 42 to Cortland in 2008)...who else has ANYONE in the entire NEFC ever beaten that is of note?  Like most of us have said...good job Salve scheduling and beating Union and Montclair State this year.  But these guys are not even above .500.  You cannot possibly expect to be ranked nationally...hell even regionally...when you have never, ever, won a league title or have a win against a single team on your scheudle with a record above .500.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on September 24, 2012, 12:51:26 PM
Coach Delong fron Springfield gave us a good discussion concerning New England recruiting and the challenges being encountered during his interview on "In the HuddLLe" last night.  It's worth the listen (around the 0:30 mark, give or take).  Choose the 9/23/12 show at http://InTheHuddLLe.com -- we always appreciate his insight.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on September 30, 2012, 08:50:36 AM
And Salve continues to roll.  Pretty convincing win against WNEC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on September 30, 2012, 10:12:32 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on September 30, 2012, 08:50:36 AM
And Salve continues to roll.  Pretty convincing win against WNEC.

Wishing Salve nothing but the best down the stretch.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Upstate on September 30, 2012, 02:32:01 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on September 30, 2012, 08:50:36 AM
And Salve continues to roll.  Pretty convincing win against WNEC.

Ah yes, that powerhouse WNEC that lost to Norwich who just lost to Mt. Ida....

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 30, 2012, 03:07:37 PM
Quote from: Upstate on September 30, 2012, 02:32:01 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on September 30, 2012, 08:50:36 AM
And Salve continues to roll.  Pretty convincing win against WNEC.

Ah yes, that powerhouse WNEC that lost to Norwich who just lost to Mt. Ida....

Mt Ida is probably one of the better teams in new England this year though.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 30, 2012, 03:09:59 PM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on September 30, 2012, 03:07:37 PM
Mt Ida is probably one of the better teams in new England this year though.

With the NEFCECFC basically only playing within itself, it's unclear what that means.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 30, 2012, 03:17:27 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 30, 2012, 03:09:59 PM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on September 30, 2012, 03:07:37 PM
Mt Ida is probably one of the better teams in new England this year though.

With the NEFCECFC basically only playing within itself, it's unclear what that means.

Top 5 out of the 24 d3 (non-nescac) football teams in my opinion.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 30, 2012, 03:19:46 PM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on September 30, 2012, 03:17:27 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 30, 2012, 03:09:59 PM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on September 30, 2012, 03:07:37 PM
Mt Ida is probably one of the better teams in new England this year though.

With the NEFCECFC basically only playing within itself, it's unclear what that means.

Top 5 out of the 24 d3 (non-nescac) football teams in my opinion.

Edit, I guess there are 25 division 3 football playing schools in New England.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on October 01, 2012, 07:11:09 PM
But the big question is still, Who is Regina and why does she need salve?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on October 02, 2012, 07:45:55 PM
Congrats to Salve getting some votes in the D3football.com top 25 poll. Keep up the good work Salve!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 02, 2012, 09:05:48 PM
What is a total croc is that a NESCAC team got the same number of votes as Salve!  That just floors me and shows they poll is wacked!  How can a team from a conferance that doesn't even play 10 games, never mind someone outside of thier little cove get the same number of votes as a team that tries to do the right thing?

Too funny!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 02, 2012, 09:11:11 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on October 02, 2012, 09:05:48 PM
What is a total croc is that a NESCAC team got the same number of votes as Salve!  That just floors me and shows they poll is wacked!  How can a team from a conferance that doesn't even play 10 games, never mind someone outside of thier little cove get the same number of votes as a team that tries to do the right thing?

Too funny!

You're equating two things that are completely unrelated. This post, frankly, does not follow.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Upstate on October 02, 2012, 09:20:56 PM
I'll take an NEFC team seriously when they win a playoff game.

Curry was the ONLY team that's been a legitimate conference rep in the NCAAs.

Do what Curry did and then we will talk about getting national recognition.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 02, 2012, 09:28:09 PM
Pat, I was replying to the congrats to Salve for getting votes.  When you look at the votes, Amherst recieved the same number of votes as Salve.  How does that happen?  NESCAC doesn't play anyone outside of NESCAC.  So how in the fair poll do they recieve the same number of votes as the team that does?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 02, 2012, 09:29:11 PM
Upstate, How does Amherst get the same number of votes then?

LOL
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 02, 2012, 09:30:37 PM
I am an outsider to both NESCAC and NEFC.  But I will say this shows the poll is out of wack.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Upstate on October 02, 2012, 09:33:21 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on October 02, 2012, 09:29:11 PM
Upstate, How does Amherst get the same number of votes then?

LOL

No one takes the NEFC or NEwhatever-it-is seriously. 

They both are getting pity votes from probably eastern pollsters.

When was the last time either one of those conferences were ranked in the top 25?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 02, 2012, 09:35:12 PM
Which is why I say the board is directed by ELITES.  Nobody else seems to matter.  Too funny
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 02, 2012, 09:36:56 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on October 02, 2012, 09:28:09 PM
Pat, I was replying to the congrats to Salve for getting votes.  When you look at the votes, Amherst recieved the same number of votes as Salve.  How does that happen?  NESCAC doesn't play anyone outside of NESCAC.  So how in the fair poll do they recieve the same number of votes as the team that does?

How? Because the cumulative opinion of our 25 voters equates them. Both teams are eligible for the poll. All polls are an opinion, right? How does someone equate Washington and Lee and Pacific Lutheran, who don't play each other and don't have any common opponents either? That's what we do.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 02, 2012, 09:44:00 PM
Because Pat, I've been reading your posts and those of others.  You've said you've watched games on the internet and a couple have actually gone to some.  I watched as much of the game I could during the last couple weeks.  The MWC games are an hour later than the NESCAC games to try and get a better opinion.  This in addition to actually attending I think 6 NESCAC games during our recruiting venture and I've come to the conclusion that the NESCAC is nowhere close to be considered to the other conferances.  There has also been a poster on the NESCAC board (Iamhuge) whose son played in the Centenial League and then transfered to the NESCAC and has said from his sons reports, there is no comparison.

I will submit that the bottom feeders of the NEFC belong where they are, but a team like Salve deserves better.

Your top 25 will be flawed as long as a NESCAC team gets the same number of votes period.

that's just my opinion though.  LOL.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 02, 2012, 09:48:13 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on October 02, 2012, 09:44:00 PM
Because Pat, I've been reading your posts and those of others.  You've said you've watched games on the internet and a couple have actually gone to some.  I watched as much of the game I could during the last couple weeks.  The MWC games are an hour later than the NESCAC games to try and get a better opinion.  This in addition to actually attending I think 6 NESCAC games during our recruiting venture and I've come to the conclusion that the NESCAC is nowhere close to be considered to the other conferances.  There has also been a poster on the NESCAC board (Iamhuge) whose son played in the Centenial League and then transfered to the NESCAC and has said from his sons reports, there is no comparison.

I will submit that the bottom feeders of the NEFC belong where they are, but a team like Salve deserves better.

Your top 25 will be flawed as long as a NESCAC team gets the same number of votes period.

that's just my opinion though.  LOL.

With 239 teams in Division III, it's not at all clear Salve deserves better. Salve is pretty fairly ranked, in my opinion. Remember that Division III is twice as big as the FBS and it's twice as hard to make the Top 25. Plus, Montclair and Union are each 2-3.

I will let other posters assess whether Iamhuge has any credibility.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 02, 2012, 09:53:35 PM
Well then I'm curious.  Do you think Amherst is also in the right position?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 02, 2012, 09:57:46 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on October 02, 2012, 09:53:35 PM
Well then I'm curious.  Do you think Amherst is also in the right position?

10 votes is more than I would give them but I have no problem with an unbeaten NESCAC team getting votes. And I don't quibble about teams that are only on a few ballots.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 03, 2012, 06:21:09 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on October 02, 2012, 09:53:35 PM
Well then I'm curious.  Do you think Amherst is also in the right position?

fulbakdad,

Do you think Salve Regina could beat Amherst?  Why?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mattvsmith on October 03, 2012, 08:54:58 AM
The important question isn't whether Salve could beat Amherst. The real question is could Salve beat any of the Top 25 teams. If so, it belongs in the top 25. If not, this conversation is moot.

Frankly, I think #25 Otterbein would make Salve wish they didn't get out of bed. When I look back at Hobart 2004, when we had the run of the Liberty League, we still couldn't compete with teams in other leagues. I flew from AZ to NJ to watch the Rowan playoff game. We were lucky--LUCKY!!!---to score. Prior to seeing the gulf between conference quality, I was convinced Hobart was getting shafted in the ranks. After seeing the game and having some time to ponder its meaning (not to mention taking a little abuse on these boards) I reckon that back then Hobart was being ranked fairly.
I tell the tale because I think Salve Regina is a good team that ought to become a playoff contender someday, just not yet. It may take until 2020 to become a genuine top 25 team. That's ok. Part of the joy of watching your team become a true contender is thinking back and being amazed that a team that you thought was the best it could ever be has become better beyond your imagination. That's how I feel about Hobart, and I hope you Salve guys get to feel that, too. Give it time. Be patient. Know that your sons are now laying the foundation for the future of the program. No edifice can endure without that foundation. The current Salve team is good and they are making it possible for it to become even better. You don't need the top 25 to tell you you're sons are doing well. You don't need it to be proud of them. Just keep on doing the right things and the recognition will come without you demanding it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 03, 2012, 08:57:40 AM
You guys put much of the weight of your pics on the competion the teams play against.  Ok Johny,  let's go with that.  Since we can't compare the teams in the NESCAC against other teams, i'll compare players.  I watched upwards of I think 6 NESCAC games during my sons jr and sr high scool year and probably as many Liberty league/Empire 8 games, along with a handful of NEFC ones.  I walked away with the feeling that the better NESCAC teams (Trinity,amherst and Williams) were good teams but played much to thier opponants level.  There were a couple of "good" players on each team but they seemed surrounded by average players.  And it was apparent there wasn't much depth.  To me the amateur viewer. 

Now I've been trying to watch as many on the webcasts as I can.  There are a number of players from my sons Prep School league that are playing.  And the success IVe seen them have in NESCAC loooks to me to be above what I would have predicted from thier hs performance.

And what do you base your views Johny?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 03, 2012, 08:59:46 AM
Rev, just to re state this, my son doesn't play for Salve.  He plays in the midwest Conferance
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 03, 2012, 09:06:58 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on October 03, 2012, 08:57:40 AM
You guys put much of the weight of your pics on the competion the teams play against.  Ok Johny,  let's go with that.  Since we can't compare the teams in the NESCAC against other teams, i'll compare players.  I watched upwards of I think 6 NESCAC games during my sons jr and sr high scool year and probably as many Liberty league/Empire 8 games, along with a handful of NEFC ones.  I walked away with the feeling that the better NESCAC teams (Trinity,amherst and Williams) were good teams but played much to thier opponants level.  There were a couple of "good" players on each team but they seemed surrounded by average players.  And it was apparent there wasn't much depth.  To me the amateur viewer. 

Now I've been trying to watch as many on the webcasts as I can.  There are a number of players from my sons Prep School league that are playing.  And the success IVe seen them have in NESCAC loooks to me to be above what I would have predicted from thier hs performance.

And what do you base your views Johny?

I base them on the same things you base them on.  I just don't think it is that laughable that Amherst gets ranked over Salve Regina.  You could argue each way, but I don't think it is laughable.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mattvsmith on October 03, 2012, 09:34:08 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on October 03, 2012, 08:59:46 AM
Rev, just to re state this, my son doesn't play for Salve.  He plays in the midwest Conferance
If that's the case, then why are you so bent about Salve's rank? Seems like a lot of energy wasted on something for which you have no skin in the game. Let the Salve guys handle it themselves if they want to. And if nobody from Salve wants to make the case, why pick it up for them?
Doesn't make much sense. I'll end my participation here since this has now really proven to be an exercise in shaking one's ketchup bottle.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: frank uible on October 03, 2012, 09:44:53 AM
Rev, touching that ketchup bottle imagery is hereby declined.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on October 03, 2012, 10:50:34 AM
I will agree that Salve in the poll is probably a big underlay currently.  The pure size they have on the line and the overall talent is such that this team could go 11-0 and beat a first-round opponent in the playoffs.  Will they succeed in this?  I don't know -- funny things happen (Hobart can attest last year in the RPI game).  However, they have the ability and are currently plowing through opponents.  Truth be told, based on my assessment (some of which is first-person), I have them at #21, which is the highest I've placed any NEFC team in my three years as a pollster.  So, that means not everyone is giving them a look, especially voters outside the East (that's a guess, but it tends to happen like that). I think if the team moves to 7-0, you'll see a lot more action for Salve in the poll.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on October 03, 2012, 11:56:33 AM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 03, 2012, 10:50:34 AM
I will agree that Salve in the poll is probably a big underlay currently.  The pure size they have on the line and the overall talent is such that this team could go 11-0 and beat a first-round opponent in the playoffs.  Will they succeed in this?  I don't know -- funny things happen (Hobart can attest last year in the RPI game).  However, they have the ability and are currently plowing through opponents.  Truth be told, based on my assessment (some of which is first-person), I have them at #21, which is the highest I've placed any NEFC team in my three years as a pollster.  So, that means not everyone is giving them a look, especially voters outside the East (that's a guess, but it tends to happen like that). I think if the team moves to 7-0, you'll see a lot more action for Salve in the poll.

dlip can kind of piggy back on this. dlip has a top 25 in' poll but just not one he submits to anyone besides his wife...O.K. probably not most creative and/or appropriate joke. ;)

Having seen Salve first hand as well dlip really does think this is quite a good football team. "Oh well dlip it's only because they beat Union that you are saying this." Horse****, dlip does not yet believe this is a clear top 25 team but the potential is there. Listen, he believes they could beat almost anyone in the East this year. Salisbury would beat them, so would SJF and Bart, but looking at those three teams they are all in the top 15. Plus dlip thinks the Seahawks wouldn't defeat #18 Widener's either. But in dlip's mind they do deserve a place in the East Region poll ranging anywhere from 5th to 10th. Which seemingly, in dlip's mind, could place them towards to bottom of the top 25 (or close to it). We all know the NEFC is not a strong conference but that does not mean the conference is not capable of producing a team that deserves some talk on a national level; see that [/color] PURPLE DRINK from a few years back.

Basically dlip feels they are right where they should be as of now and clearly, like Frank is elduing to, may be rising higher if they keep handeling their buisness.

Honestly fulback let's give Pat and the boys a break. With the resources they have at their disposal, personal lives, jobs, and more dlip feels they do a ****in awesome job with the poll. Nothing they put out is laughable. For laughable rankings wait for the NCAA to release their regional rankings, that **** is laughable. Also please try not to disturb the NESCAC schools. Nothing is worse then disrupting afternoon tea and crumpets with the men.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on October 05, 2012, 12:57:55 AM
W&J may not be in the conference, but please keep the team, players, coaches, student body, and especially the player's family in mind during this horrible time: http://www.d3football.com/notables/2012/10/washington-and-jefferson-player-dies (http://www.d3football.com/notables/2012/10/washington-and-jefferson-player-dies)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on October 05, 2012, 08:03:00 AM
I am not really sure what the issue is with Salve.  We all recognize that they are doing well this season...we have all recognized that unlike any other team in the NEFC that they are actually trying to schedule non-NEFC or ECFC opponents.  This year, they finally broke through and beat two traditionally good teams in Union and Montclair (who both are, unfortunately for Salve, having what is considered a down year at this point for these teams).  Salve is getting votes and are ranked 8th in the eastern region fan poll...and if you actually add up the vote totals in D3 Top 25 poll, you will find that you are "ranked" as tied for the 35th best team in the country out of 239 teams.  How in the world is this team...a team that is looking at only it's third winning season in the past 12 years...a team that has never finished higher then third in the NEFC Boyd Division over the past 11+ seasons...a team who may be 4-4 the past five seasons (including this one) against non-NEFC or ECFC teams, but is a terrible 20-13 against NEFC teams during this same time frame (name me one other regular top-25 team that would have 13 league losses in the past five seasons playing in the NEFC)...getting screwed or not recognized?

The reality is, we should all be a bit more suspect of Salve for the remainder of the season.  What game are we supposed to watch or look at for the remainder of the regular season that will give anyone any indication of how strong they are, or how prepared they will be for the playoffs?  MIT (2-2)?  Curry (2-3) or Plymouth State (2-3)?  Or the terrifying teams of Mass-Dartmouth (1-4) and Nichols (0-5)?

Do I think that Salve can cause some noise this year in the playoffs?  Sure...they really do seem to be better this season and could absolutely surprise a "better" team if they don't come prepared to play...but to pretend that they are being slighted in the least in terms of where they "deserve" to be ranked NATIONALLY is ridiculous...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUKaz00 on October 05, 2012, 09:45:42 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 05, 2012, 08:03:00 AM
Do I think that Salve can cause some noise this year in the playoffs?  Sure...they really do seem to be better this season and could absolutely surprise a "better" team if they don't come prepared to play...but to pretend that they are being slighted in the least in terms of where they "deserve" to be ranked NATIONALLY is ridiculous...

But they have the longest current win streak in the D3!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on October 05, 2012, 10:31:25 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 05, 2012, 08:03:00 AM
Do I think that Salve can cause some noise this year in the playoffs?  Sure...they really do seem to be better this season and could absolutely surprise a "better" team if they don't come prepared to play...but to pretend that they are being slighted in the least in terms of where they "deserve" to be ranked NATIONALLY is ridiculous...

Totally agree.  Actually, 95% agree - I'm not a big fan of mentioning things from more than 5 years ago to evaluate the strength of a team in the current season - although I do think that more recent history (4-5 years, which would include mostly current coaches and players) is relevant, such as the fact that Salve didn't win the NEFC last year.

Salve has done what they can control this season - scheduled outside the NEFC/ECFC and beaten a couple of good programs.  But to earn a NATIONAL ranking requires an awful lot more than that - a playoff win, or a win over another playoff-caliber team, has to happen at some point to get yourself into the top 25 discussion.  Unfortunately, given the way this season has unfolded, the wins over Union and Montclair don't really qualify as such.  Neither is even close to a top-25 team at this point, and Salve did WIN the games, but they didn't exactly blow the doors off either team.

That's not "penalizing" Salve for Union/Montclair's struggles, although some might interpret it that way; it's a realistic assessment of what those wins actually mean.  Look at this from another angle: if a lower-rung NJAC or E8 program - say, Frostburg State or Western Connecticut - had opened the season with close wins over Union and Montclair State, would you be beating the drum for them to get a top 25 ranking?  Probably not.

Because of the limited inter-conference play in Division III, unfortunately, we really HAVE to include preconceptions about certain conferences based on past playoff success and showings against quality opponents.  While Salve is to be commended for their improvement over the last few years...they didn't even win the NEFC last year.  What tangible evidence do we have that they've climbed from that level all the way up to top 25 teams?  None.  If Union or Montclair State were 4-1, then I might see such an argument.

Curry 2007-08 is, in my mind, the ONLY time we should have ever been discussing an NEFC team as a borderline top-25 team.  Even there, I don't really think they were in the Top 25 teams in the country, but you could at least make a case that winning playoff games in two consecutive seasons against E8 teams had garnered some measure of respect.  The body of evidence from the last three seasons does not suggest that even the NEFC's top team is a Top 25 program.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 05, 2012, 10:37:01 AM
I don't get why this whole Top 25 thing doesn't ever seem to resonate with some individuals rooting for NEFC teams.  Be a superfan, cheer cheer cheer, but science is science.  Results are results.  Salve is great right now amongst mediocre competition.  They are doing the right things as a program and everyone recognizes that.  If they win out, they are definitely worthy of a playoff spot.  If they win there, they probably are worthy of a 22-25 ranking.  But if they make the playoff field(of 32) and lose, then I would see them in the 30-40 range.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on October 05, 2012, 10:48:49 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 05, 2012, 10:37:01 AM
I don't get why this whole Top 25 thing doesn't ever seem to resonate with some individuals rooting for NEFC teams.  Be a superfan, cheer cheer cheer, but science is science.  Results are results.  Salve is great right now amongst mediocre competition.  They are doing the right things as a program and everyone recognizes that.  If they win out, they are definitely worthy of a playoff spot.  If they win there, they probably are worthy of a 22-25 ranking.  But if they make the playoff field(of 32) and lose, then I would see them in the 30-40 range.

Agreed...and like I stated before...if they are going off the number or votes for the D3 Top 25...they can look at themselves in the mirror and say "hey look...the D3 football poll has us ranked as the 35th best team in the country".  I am not sure at all how that is a slight.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on October 05, 2012, 11:04:00 AM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on October 05, 2012, 10:31:25 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 05, 2012, 08:03:00 AM
Do I think that Salve can cause some noise this year in the playoffs?  Sure...they really do seem to be better this season and could absolutely surprise a "better" team if they don't come prepared to play...but to pretend that they are being slighted in the least in terms of where they "deserve" to be ranked NATIONALLY is ridiculous...

Totally agree.  Actually, 95% agree - I'm not a big fan of mentioning things from more than 5 years ago to evaluate the strength of a team in the current season - although I do think that more recent history (4-5 years, which would include mostly current coaches and players) is relevant, such as the fact that Salve didn't win the NEFC last year.

I normally completely agree with the notion to stay within a 4-5 year window on specific issues.  The only reason I went out to 11-12 seasons on one of my comments was to show that there wasn't this long, sustained national success absent the last 4-5 seasons (ie...7 seasons of great football, followed by one or two years of mediocre football, then the last few years of relative success).
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bombers798891 on October 05, 2012, 12:07:37 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on October 05, 2012, 10:31:25 AM
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That's not "penalizing" Salve for Union/Montclair's struggles, although some might interpret it that way; it's a realistic assessment of what those wins actually mean.  Look at this from another angle: if a lower-rung NJAC or E8 program - say, Frostburg State or Western Connecticut - had opened the season with close wins over Union and Montclair State, would you be beating the drum for them to get a top 25 ranking?  Probably not.


That bolded point is absolutely true, and people misinterpret that all the time. Well-stated. And your second point is valid too. Ithaca's a lower-rung E8 team (or was, coming into the season) and is currently 4-0. Given that their OOC schedule includes Union, and that their conference is much stronger, they could probably argue their 4-0 is as (or more) impressive than Salve's, and no one seems outraged that they're not included (albeit receiving votes).

That said, all Salve can do at this point is win the games put in front of them, and let the rest sort itself out. Kudos to them for having done so
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on October 05, 2012, 03:06:40 PM
Dlip thinks the horse is now been more than beaten but ****ing throttled! ;) There is no way Salve's current ranking a slight period. Really the only saying and/or impkying that was Fulbackdad and he has been quite as of late.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on October 07, 2012, 07:18:25 AM
But dlip, it's a lot of fun for us to take turns typing articulate paragraphs making a point that we all agree on using slightly different wording, then giving each other positive karma for doing so.  Can I get a +K, anyone?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mattvsmith on October 07, 2012, 07:37:34 AM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on October 07, 2012, 07:18:25 AM
But dlip, it's a lot of fun for us to take turns typing articulate paragraphs making a point that we all agree on using slightly different wording, then giving each other positive karma for doing so.  Can I get a +K, anyone?

You've received positive karma for that discussion? No +K for me (or if there was, smiting negated it). How did I miss out on the luvfest?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 07, 2012, 08:46:25 AM
anyone now feel funny giving Amherst the same number of top 25 votes as Salve?

Get that horse up on his feet. I've got pleny of lashes left to give!

lol
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 07, 2012, 09:05:03 AM
Oh and Roll Gulls!

LOL
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mattvsmith on October 07, 2012, 10:31:23 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on October 07, 2012, 08:46:25 AM
anyone now feel funny giving Amherst the same number of top 25 votes as Salve?

Get that horse up on his feet. I've got pleny of lashes left to give!

lol

I like you, fulbackdad. You can take a joke and make a joke. A few guys here can dish it out but can't take it. I'm glad you are not one of the touchy ones.

It will be interesting to see what happens. Salve really put the screws to UM-Dartmouth. I'm not sure it's enough to put them over the bar into #25 but anyone would be a fool not to respect their program. My guess is that by the end of the season they will be ranked and have a playoff berth.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on October 07, 2012, 10:52:37 AM
If they keep winning then they rightfully should be. Dlip would like to see that happen. :)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 07, 2012, 11:49:01 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on October 07, 2012, 08:46:25 AM
anyone now feel funny giving Amherst the same number of top 25 votes as Salve?

Get that horse up on his feet. I've got pleny of lashes left to give!

lol

Watch middlebury the same amount of votes now.

I was at the Mt Ida/Ana Maria game yesterday.  If mt. Ida can find a way to keep their players eligible each year, they could be a surprise program down the road.  Only 8 seniors on the team with some good athletes on offense.  Decent quarterback from the buffalo area as well.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 07, 2012, 12:13:13 PM
Hey,

Now after all that, I'm still +kless!

Actually I'm wiped out.  My sons team, Lake Forest College, beat Illinois College yesterday in a down to the wire finish for Homecoming.  Just rubbing the scotch out of my eyes now!

Crazy week out here.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 07, 2012, 04:25:43 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on October 07, 2012, 07:18:25 AM
But dlip, it's a lot of fun for us to take turns typing articulate paragraphs making a point that we all agree on using slightly different wording, then giving each other positive karma for doing so.  Can I get a +K, anyone?

Boom.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 13, 2012, 06:06:10 PM
Salve Wins! Keep the train going Coach!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mattvsmith on October 13, 2012, 07:39:01 PM
Of all the teams in NEFC to stop Salve's streak, Curry probably had the best chance. I wouldn't be surprised if they finish the season undefeated.

It will be interesting to see of this puts them in the top 25, or if they are still out in the honorable mentions.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on October 13, 2012, 08:11:39 PM
I think that Salve may move up due to some teams losing ahead of them, but it won't be due to the win over Curry, who is 3-4 this year including a loss to WPI.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mattvsmith on October 13, 2012, 08:35:39 PM
Quote from: pg04 on October 13, 2012, 08:11:39 PM
I think that Salve may move up due to some teams losing ahead of them, but it won't be due to the win over Curry, who is 3-4 this year including a loss to WPI.
What's happened to Curry? They used to be contenders.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on October 14, 2012, 01:08:14 PM
Quote from: pg04 on October 13, 2012, 08:11:39 PM
I think that Salve may move up due to some teams losing ahead of them, but it won't be due to the win over Curry, who is 3-4 this year including a loss to WPI.

I'll state right now that I'm accounting for 6 points of Salve's total this week.  Let's see if others are finally coming on board or not.  It will also be interesting to see if somehow, a team supplants what should be Hobart's rightful spot at #10 this week -- remember that each region has 6 voters plus Pat as the 25th voter.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: GoTech73 on October 14, 2012, 08:25:16 PM
Quote from: Rt Rev J.H. Hobart on October 13, 2012, 07:39:01 PM
Of all the teams in NEFC to stop Salve's streak, Curry probably had the best chance. I wouldn't be surprised if they finish the season undefeated.


I would go as far as saying as soon as Salve beat Endicott, they pretty much had the undefeated season wrapped up. Curry is really down this year. Both of their wins against MIT and WNE had to come in a TD on the last play of the game. They are still Ws, and Curry has proven it can be clutch in close situations, but overall they are a shell of what they were a few years ago.

While I would love to see MIT pull a miracle next week (it would make it a very memorable Senior Night for some former teammates and close friends), I fear the worst, and Plymouth and Nichols will likely be even less of a challenge.

Thinking about it a little more, I'm pretty surprised Curry gave Salve such a game, especially in Newport (in terms of NEFC Boyd travel, its probably the least enjoyable trip to make in terms of facilities and distance). If anything it has shaken my confidence that Salve will be able to make noise in the postseason (which I would actually love to see to help start to build the strength of the conference).
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUKaz00 on October 15, 2012, 03:32:29 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 14, 2012, 01:08:14 PM
Quote from: pg04 on October 13, 2012, 08:11:39 PM
I think that Salve may move up due to some teams losing ahead of them, but it won't be due to the win over Curry, who is 3-4 this year including a loss to WPI.

I'll state right now that I'm accounting for 6 points of Salve's total this week.  Let's see if others are finally coming on board or not.  It will also be interesting to see if somehow, a team supplants what should be Hobart's rightful spot at #10 this week -- remember that each region has 6 voters plus Pat as the 25th voter.

Frank, I'm surprised to see that you have Salve ahead of Cortland since the Red Dragons performed much better against a common opponent in Montclair.  I'm guessing that you're dinging them for that week 1 loss to Buff State, but I would back Cortland over Salve in a head-to-head, home or away.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 15, 2012, 03:57:01 PM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on October 15, 2012, 03:32:29 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 14, 2012, 01:08:14 PM
Quote from: pg04 on October 13, 2012, 08:11:39 PM
I think that Salve may move up due to some teams losing ahead of them, but it won't be due to the win over Curry, who is 3-4 this year including a loss to WPI.

I'll state right now that I'm accounting for 6 points of Salve's total this week.  Let's see if others are finally coming on board or not.  It will also be interesting to see if somehow, a team supplants what should be Hobart's rightful spot at #10 this week -- remember that each region has 6 voters plus Pat as the 25th voter.

Frank, I'm surprised to see that you have Salve ahead of Cortland since the Red Dragons performed much better against a common opponent in Montclair.  I'm guessing that you're dinging them for that week 1 loss to Buff State, but I would back Cortland over Salve in a head-to-head, home or away.

Without Question.  +K
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on October 15, 2012, 04:51:02 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 15, 2012, 03:57:01 PM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on October 15, 2012, 03:32:29 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 14, 2012, 01:08:14 PM
Quote from: pg04 on October 13, 2012, 08:11:39 PM
I think that Salve may move up due to some teams losing ahead of them, but it won't be due to the win over Curry, who is 3-4 this year including a loss to WPI.

I'll state right now that I'm accounting for 6 points of Salve's total this week.  Let's see if others are finally coming on board or not.  It will also be interesting to see if somehow, a team supplants what should be Hobart's rightful spot at #10 this week -- remember that each region has 6 voters plus Pat as the 25th voter.

Frank, I'm surprised to see that you have Salve ahead of Cortland since the Red Dragons performed much better against a common opponent in Montclair.  I'm guessing that you're dinging them for that week 1 loss to Buff State, but I would back Cortland over Salve in a head-to-head, home or away.

Without Question.  +K

16-7 vs. 20-0 is overall negligible.  I wouldn't base relative placement on a score differential like that.  As far as East Region teams go, Cortland is the next team on my list, after Alfred (which debuted on my ballot this month this past week at #22).  I currently believe Rowan is a better team than Cortland this season, and their H2H game this weekend will go a long way to decide how that all pans out.  As someone who has watched Salve play this year (and not just in the Union game), I wouldn't assume anything about relative strengths.  I didn't ding them much relatively for the Curry game since it seems to be their only near-blemish thus far since beating Union in a dogfight.  I'll listen for Lew's podcast so that he can explain the X's and O's (of his Words with Friends tile rack).
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on October 15, 2012, 05:06:38 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 15, 2012, 04:51:02 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 15, 2012, 03:57:01 PM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on October 15, 2012, 03:32:29 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 14, 2012, 01:08:14 PM
Quote from: pg04 on October 13, 2012, 08:11:39 PM
I think that Salve may move up due to some teams losing ahead of them, but it won't be due to the win over Curry, who is 3-4 this year including a loss to WPI.

I'll state right now that I'm accounting for 6 points of Salve's total this week.  Let's see if others are finally coming on board or not.  It will also be interesting to see if somehow, a team supplants what should be Hobart's rightful spot at #10 this week -- remember that each region has 6 voters plus Pat as the 25th voter.

Frank, I'm surprised to see that you have Salve ahead of Cortland since the Red Dragons performed much better against a common opponent in Montclair.  I'm guessing that you're dinging them for that week 1 loss to Buff State, but I would back Cortland over Salve in a head-to-head, home or away.

Without Question.  +K

16-7 vs. 20-0 is overall negligible.  I wouldn't base relative placement on a score differential like that.  As far as East Region teams go, Cortland is the next team on my list, after Alfred (which debuted on my ballot this month this past week at #22).  I currently believe Rowan is a better team than Cortland this season, and their H2H game this weekend will go a long way to decide how that all pans out.  As someone who has watched Salve play this year (and not just in the Union game), I wouldn't assume anything about relative strengths.  I didn't ding them much relatively for the Curry game since it seems to be their only near-blemish thus far since beating Union in a dogfight.  I'll listen for Lew's podcast so that he can explain the X's and O's (of his Words with Friends tile rack).

Yeah, well ummmm, Pep is gonna go ahead and disagree with you, Frank...You're jumping to (wrong) conclusions.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on October 15, 2012, 05:34:42 PM
Quote from: AUPepBand on October 15, 2012, 05:06:38 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 15, 2012, 04:51:02 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 15, 2012, 03:57:01 PM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on October 15, 2012, 03:32:29 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 14, 2012, 01:08:14 PM
Quote from: pg04 on October 13, 2012, 08:11:39 PM
I think that Salve may move up due to some teams losing ahead of them, but it won't be due to the win over Curry, who is 3-4 this year including a loss to WPI.

I'll state right now that I'm accounting for 6 points of Salve's total this week.  Let's see if others are finally coming on board or not.  It will also be interesting to see if somehow, a team supplants what should be Hobart's rightful spot at #10 this week -- remember that each region has 6 voters plus Pat as the 25th voter.

Frank, I'm surprised to see that you have Salve ahead of Cortland since the Red Dragons performed much better against a common opponent in Montclair.  I'm guessing that you're dinging them for that week 1 loss to Buff State, but I would back Cortland over Salve in a head-to-head, home or away.

Without Question.  +K

16-7 vs. 20-0 is overall negligible.  I wouldn't base relative placement on a score differential like that.  As far as East Region teams go, Cortland is the next team on my list, after Alfred (which debuted on my ballot this month this past week at #22).  I currently believe Rowan is a better team than Cortland this season, and their H2H game this weekend will go a long way to decide how that all pans out.  As someone who has watched Salve play this year (and not just in the Union game), I wouldn't assume anything about relative strengths.  I didn't ding them much relatively for the Curry game since it seems to be their only near-blemish thus far since beating Union in a dogfight.  I'll listen for Lew's podcast so that he can explain the X's and O's (of his Words with Friends tile rack).

Yeah, well ummmm, Pep is gonna go ahead and disagree with you, Frank...You're jumping to (wrong) conclusions.

I might lose sleep over this... Or I might dream of Kazoos all night long... I'll let you know which happens.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on October 17, 2012, 11:24:07 AM
"There is likely nobody on the defensive side of the ball who has more right to be called a game-changer than Salve Regina's Phil Terio. And did he ever change Saturday's 37-30 victory over Curry that allowed the Seahawks to prolong the nation's longest winning streak to 13 games. Terio intercepted a pass on his own 7-yard line to seal the win late in the game. Earlier, he returned a kickoff 93 yards for a touchdown.

The sophomore defensive back has returned four interceptions for touchdowns this season. The NCAA Division III record previously was three in an entire season.

"He had scholarship offers. He just felt comfortable coming here," Chesney said. One reason he felt comfortable was that Salve's heralded running back Richie Edwards came from the same high school."


Out of curiosity...what schools offered Terio a scholarship?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 17, 2012, 05:30:57 PM
So Yanks,

You say that like there's no way he was offered a scholarship?  Is that what you meant?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on October 17, 2012, 05:46:23 PM
Dlip watched the kid play, he is one hell of an athlete! Dlip likes him a lot. Kid is a ****ing game changer.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on October 17, 2012, 06:10:18 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on October 17, 2012, 05:30:57 PM
So Yanks,

You say that like there's no way he was offered a scholarship?  Is that what you meant?

No, I think he meant "What schools offered him a scholarship?" You are assuming a tone from the post that may or may not be there.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on October 17, 2012, 07:21:03 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on October 17, 2012, 05:30:57 PM
So Yanks,

You say that like there's no way he was offered a scholarship?  Is that what you meant?

Not at all.  I heard of this kid from last year...but didn't realize he was this highly thought of coming out of Trumball.  Someone tells me he had a legit offer from a UNH or Maine...or even UConn...and I will probably actually think a little more highly of the Salve defense.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 17, 2012, 08:54:40 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on October 17, 2012, 05:30:57 PM
So Yanks,

You say that like there's no way he was offered a scholarship?  Is that what you meant?

What a total douche comment.  Dude, are you like 5'4" cause you have a serious complex of some sort.

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpoutperfection.files.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F11%2Ftallshortheadcutoff.jpg&hash=83706f08fe26ae6ae456a4897225c722d449fae8)
"Be careful when you mention Salve Regina.  I'll fight you!!!"  -fulbakdad
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 17, 2012, 08:59:25 PM
Dog, I think you are wrong there. lol.

I'm a retired Marine Corps Gunnery Sgt.  I have worked in a Max security prison for 20 years. 

I've giggled at guys like you.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 17, 2012, 09:03:48 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on October 17, 2012, 08:59:25 PM
Dog, I think you are wrong there. lol.

I'm a retired Marine Corps Gunnery Sgt.  I have worked in a Max security prison for 20 years. 

I've giggled at guys like you.

Like, you've giggled at my jokes and stuff?  That's awfully sweet.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 17, 2012, 10:16:36 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on October 17, 2012, 05:30:57 PM
So Yanks,

You say that like there's no way he was offered a scholarship?  Is that what you meant?

You might want to lose the chip from your shoulder, sir. Most of the time a question is just a question.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 18, 2012, 05:14:09 AM
I would agree Pat, sometimes a question is just a question.  Re-read the post.

There's not a chip.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on October 18, 2012, 10:48:31 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 17, 2012, 11:24:07 AM
"There is likely nobody on the defensive side of the ball who has more right to be called a game-changer than Salve Regina's Phil Terio. And did he ever change Saturday's 37-30 victory over Curry that allowed the Seahawks to prolong the nation's longest winning streak to 13 games. Terio intercepted a pass on his own 7-yard line to seal the win late in the game. Earlier, he returned a kickoff 93 yards for a touchdown.

The sophomore defensive back has returned four interceptions for touchdowns this season. The NCAA Division III record previously was three in an entire season.

"He had scholarship offers. He just felt comfortable coming here," Chesney said. One reason he felt comfortable was that Salve's heralded running back Richie Edwards came from the same high school."


Out of curiosity...what schools offered Terio a scholarship?

OK...so back to the original question...out of curiosity...does anyone know what schools offered Terio a scholarship coming out of high school?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on October 18, 2012, 10:49:57 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 17, 2012, 08:54:40 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on October 17, 2012, 05:30:57 PM
So Yanks,

You say that like there's no way he was offered a scholarship?  Is that what you meant?

What a total douche comment.  Dude, are you like 5'4" cause you have a serious complex of some sort.

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpoutperfection.files.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F11%2Ftallshortheadcutoff.jpg&hash=83706f08fe26ae6ae456a4897225c722d449fae8)
"Be careful when you mention Salve Regina.  I'll fight you!!!"  -fulbakdad

+k for the pic LD...just spit my coffee out through my nose...now I need a new shirt...DAMMIT!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 18, 2012, 11:14:21 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 18, 2012, 10:48:31 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 17, 2012, 11:24:07 AM
"There is likely nobody on the defensive side of the ball who has more right to be called a game-changer than Salve Regina's Phil Terio. And did he ever change Saturday's 37-30 victory over Curry that allowed the Seahawks to prolong the nation's longest winning streak to 13 games. Terio intercepted a pass on his own 7-yard line to seal the win late in the game. Earlier, he returned a kickoff 93 yards for a touchdown.

The sophomore defensive back has returned four interceptions for touchdowns this season. The NCAA Division III record previously was three in an entire season.

"He had scholarship offers. He just felt comfortable coming here," Chesney said. One reason he felt comfortable was that Salve's heralded running back Richie Edwards came from the same high school."


Out of curiosity...what schools offered Terio a scholarship?

OK...so back to the original question...out of curiosity...does anyone know what schools offered Terio a scholarship coming out of high school?

What are you trying to say here Yanks?  Like you don't think someone would ever choose Salve over Ithaca?  Is that what you're saying?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bman on October 18, 2012, 12:28:50 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 18, 2012, 10:48:31 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 17, 2012, 11:24:07 AM
"There is likely nobody on the defensive side of the ball who has more right to be called a game-changer than Salve Regina's Phil Terio. And did he ever change Saturday's 37-30 victory over Curry that allowed the Seahawks to prolong the nation's longest winning streak to 13 games. Terio intercepted a pass on his own 7-yard line to seal the win late in the game. Earlier, he returned a kickoff 93 yards for a touchdown.

The sophomore defensive back has returned four interceptions for touchdowns this season. The NCAA Division III record previously was three in an entire season.

"He had scholarship offers. He just felt comfortable coming here," Chesney said. One reason he felt comfortable was that Salve's heralded running back Richie Edwards came from the same high school."


Out of curiosity...what schools offered Terio a scholarship?

OK...so back to the original question...out of curiosity...does anyone know what schools offered Terio a scholarship coming out of high school?

Is that guy related to Denny Terio?  I never really watched Dancin on Air, but I heard it was good...If so, I understand, where he gets his moves from...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on October 18, 2012, 12:38:19 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 18, 2012, 11:14:21 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 18, 2012, 10:48:31 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 17, 2012, 11:24:07 AM
"There is likely nobody on the defensive side of the ball who has more right to be called a game-changer than Salve Regina's Phil Terio. And did he ever change Saturday's 37-30 victory over Curry that allowed the Seahawks to prolong the nation's longest winning streak to 13 games. Terio intercepted a pass on his own 7-yard line to seal the win late in the game. Earlier, he returned a kickoff 93 yards for a touchdown.

The sophomore defensive back has returned four interceptions for touchdowns this season. The NCAA Division III record previously was three in an entire season.

"He had scholarship offers. He just felt comfortable coming here," Chesney said. One reason he felt comfortable was that Salve's heralded running back Richie Edwards came from the same high school."


Out of curiosity...what schools offered Terio a scholarship?

OK...so back to the original question...out of curiosity...does anyone know what schools offered Terio a scholarship coming out of high school?

What are you trying to say here Yanks?  Like you don't think someone would ever choose Salve over Ithaca?  Is that what you're saying?

Hahaha...clearly...

Sorry...I mean giggle...giggle...giggle...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 18, 2012, 12:39:53 PM
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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on October 19, 2012, 10:12:20 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 18, 2012, 10:48:31 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 17, 2012, 11:24:07 AM
"There is likely nobody on the defensive side of the ball who has more right to be called a game-changer than Salve Regina's Phil Terio. And did he ever change Saturday's 37-30 victory over Curry that allowed the Seahawks to prolong the nation's longest winning streak to 13 games. Terio intercepted a pass on his own 7-yard line to seal the win late in the game. Earlier, he returned a kickoff 93 yards for a touchdown.

The sophomore defensive back has returned four interceptions for touchdowns this season. The NCAA Division III record previously was three in an entire season.

"He had scholarship offers. He just felt comfortable coming here," Chesney said. One reason he felt comfortable was that Salve's heralded running back Richie Edwards came from the same high school."


Out of curiosity...what schools offered Terio a scholarship?

OK...so back to the original question...out of curiosity...does anyone know what schools offered Terio a scholarship coming out of high school?

Wow...I figured at this point someone would have come forward with a firm "Terio got an offer this School A or School B".  I saw he played on the Governor's Cup Team (between Connecticut and Rhode Island)...but I didn't see anything besides that...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on October 19, 2012, 12:08:03 PM
Danny Terio was a key member of the late 70's and 80's super group Menudo!

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SIMPLY AMAZING
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: softballrz on October 19, 2012, 09:43:01 PM
MIT beat Salve
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on October 19, 2012, 09:58:02 PM
That sound you hear is all the ER posters jumping off the Salve bandwagon...

Seriously, it looks like it was a wild finish. Salve takes the lead with 1:20 to go, then gives up a huge kickoff return that sets up MIT for the go-ahead score in the final minute. Wow.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: GoTech73 on October 19, 2012, 10:01:54 PM
Quote from: softballrz on October 19, 2012, 09:43:01 PM
MIT beat Salve

Go Tech! Coach Martinovich has been working hard to build something special at the 'Tute these last few years. I hope they can let this win be a foundation for a brighter future!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on October 19, 2012, 10:29:58 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on October 19, 2012, 09:58:02 PM
That sound you hear is all the ER posters jumping off the Salve bandwagon...

Seriously, it looks like it was a wild finish. Salve takes the lead with 1:20 to go, then gives up a huge kickoff return that sets up MIT for the go-ahead score in the final minute. Wow.

There were very few people on the Salve Bandwagon, most of us knew they were a "paper champion". Evidenced by the fact that even though they were undefeated they STILL didn't get into the top 10 of the Eastern Region Fan poll, run by posters here. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on October 19, 2012, 10:40:01 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on October 17, 2012, 08:59:25 PM
Dog, I think you are wrong there. lol.

I'm a retired Marine Corps Gunnery Sgt.  I have worked in a Max security prison for 20 years. 

I've giggled at guys like you.

That explains a lot.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 20, 2012, 06:53:15 AM
OMG!  Just read about the game.  I'll never ever ever post on this board again!

Well, not until the next time I want to. 

lol
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 20, 2012, 09:51:55 AM
Getting ranked in the other poll and not in ours is practically a kiss of death.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on October 20, 2012, 12:35:31 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on October 20, 2012, 06:53:15 AM
OMG!  Just read about the game.  I'll never ever ever post on this board again!

Well, not until the next time I want to. 

lol

Take it easy, Champ. Why don't you sit this next one out...stop talking for a while.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on October 20, 2012, 05:37:30 PM
Regardless, they are still a game ahead in their division and likely to get to the NCAA anyway (Edit: Well, maybe not, they could lose to Framingham state in the Conference title game...That still exists right?). Now we just know what type of monkeystomp they will get.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 20, 2012, 07:35:37 PM
Quote from: pg04 on October 20, 2012, 05:37:30 PM
Regardless, they are still a game ahead in their division and likely to get to the NCAA anyway (Edit: Well, maybe not, they could lose to Framingham state in the Conference title game...That still exists right?). Now we just know what type of monkeystomp they will get.

Hopefully Hobart wins out and gets that softball.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: GoTech73 on October 25, 2012, 11:10:56 AM
Congratulations to MIT's offensive lineman Ethan Peterson, who was selected yesterday as one of the 15 finalists for the National Football Foundation's Campbell Trophy!

Story here: http://www.footballfoundation.org/News/NewsDetail/tabid/567/Article/52813/national-football-foundation-proudly-announces-the-2012-nff-national-scholar-at.aspx

Others on the list include names like Matt Barkley and Manti T'eo. The only other DIII selection was Mount Union's Nick Driskill.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on October 25, 2012, 11:19:13 AM
Quote from: GoTech73 on October 25, 2012, 11:10:56 AM
Congratulations to MIT's offensive lineman Ethan Peterson, who was selected yesterday as one of the 15 finalists for the National Football Foundation's Campbell Trophy!

Story here: http://www.footballfoundation.org/News/NewsDetail/tabid/567/Article/52813/national-football-foundation-proudly-announces-the-2012-nff-national-scholar-at.aspx

Others on the list include names like Matt Barkley and Manti T'eo. The only other DIII selection was Mount Union's Nick Driskill.

Please... he's no nuclear engineer.

Oh, wait...

;)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 10, 2012, 03:44:38 PM
And so ends the season of the Salve Regina team, who presumably would have run through the playoffs easily.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on November 11, 2012, 05:05:14 PM
Guess we'll never know now.  Too bad.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ITH radio on November 11, 2012, 05:34:03 PM
For some weird reason we think Bridgewater may make the field, giving the NEFC two teams.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on November 11, 2012, 05:49:05 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on November 11, 2012, 05:05:14 PM
Guess we'll never know now.  Too bad.
:

If you lose to Framingham and MIT...you know...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 11, 2012, 05:50:10 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on November 11, 2012, 05:34:03 PM
For some weird reason we think Bridgewater may make the field, giving the NEFC two teams.

No. Just, No. I think Pat's pretty close with their projection.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ITH radio on November 11, 2012, 05:57:57 PM
I hope so, but stranger things have happened in the past.  We'll know in about 3-6 mins.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 11, 2012, 06:16:00 PM
Wow you were right. What a sham.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: magicman on November 11, 2012, 06:22:04 PM
Framingham State (10-1) at Cortland State (8-1)

Bridgewater State (9-1) at Widener (9-0)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 11, 2012, 06:23:41 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 11, 2012, 06:22:04 PM
Mount Ida (8-2) at Wesley (8-1) in the 1st round.

Wrong Conference.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: magicman on November 11, 2012, 06:30:02 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 11, 2012, 06:23:41 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 11, 2012, 06:22:04 PM
Mount Ida (8-2) at Wesley (8-1) in the 1st round.

Wrong Conference.

Yeah, I made the correction. Thanks.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 11, 2012, 06:32:16 PM
I don't blame you, they seem like the same conference, or at least the results will be the same!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: magicman on November 11, 2012, 06:37:48 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 11, 2012, 06:32:16 PM
I don't blame you, they seem like the same conference, or at least the results will be the same!

You got that right! ;D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 11, 2012, 07:06:42 PM
dlip takes back everything he said in poor taste about Widener's 90 point win. He hopes they do it again next week. :P
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Shoreman on November 11, 2012, 07:26:22 PM
Good luck to all the Big Blue alums on the FSU Rams in their game against Cortland!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on November 11, 2012, 07:32:35 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 11, 2012, 06:22:04 PM
Framingham State (10-1) at Cortland State (8-1)

Bridgewater State (9-1) at Widener (9-0)

This just in from Mayberry....Bridgewater State (9-1) has opted to yield its spot in the NCAA Championships to Alfred (6-3), based on the Saxons' 41-10 over the Bears in an ECAC contest last year. Seems the Bridgewater officials incorrectly spelled SAXSONS on the Bridgewater State scoreboard at last year's game and a penalty was enacted that in essence stated that should the Saxons win that ECAC contest, Bridgewater would defer any future NCAA bids to the SAXONS.

On Saxon Warriors!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: magicman on November 11, 2012, 08:16:06 PM
Quote from: AUPepBand on November 11, 2012, 07:32:35 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 11, 2012, 06:22:04 PM
Framingham State (10-1) at Cortland State (8-1)

Bridgewater State (9-1) at Widener (9-0)

This just in from Mayberry....Bridgewater State (9-1) has opted to yield its spot in the NCAA Championships to Alfred (6-3), based on the Saxons' 41-10 over the Bears in an ECAC contest last year. Seems the Bridgewater officials incorrectly spelled SAXSONS on the Bridgewater State scoreboard at last year's game and a penalty was enacted that in essence stated that should the Saxons win that ECAC contest, Bridgewater would defer any future NCAA bids to the SAXONS.

On Saxon Warriors!

In Mayberry, one can dream, can't they? ;D 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 17, 2012, 08:58:36 PM
Congratulations to Framingham State on the strong performance today! 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Dragondad on November 17, 2012, 10:19:42 PM
If not for turnovers and penalties, Framingham St would have beaten Cortland today.  That about sums it up. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 18, 2012, 01:33:35 AM
A pretty generic statement for a losing team don't you think? Dlip could apply that statement to most teams who come out on the short end. However, no doubt a great effort by Framingham State. Congrats on a great season and almost upsetting Cortland today. Framingham did the NEFC proud today, their performance cannot be ignored. Good luck next season!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Dragondad on November 18, 2012, 09:44:42 AM
Generic statement, yes, but it's true and I'm a Cortland guy.  There just isn't much to say about the game that is productive.  Bottom line, we are on to the second round but need to play much better if we are to be competitive against Wesley.  Framingham St is the best NEFC team I have seen in the last 5 years and we've seen 4 of them.  Happy Thanksgiving to all!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 18, 2012, 11:36:27 AM
Quote from: Dragondad on November 18, 2012, 09:44:42 AM
Generic statement, yes, but it's true and I'm a Cortland guy.  There just isn't much to say about the game that is productive.  Bottom line, we are on to the second round but need to play much better if we are to be competitive against Wesley.  Framingham St is the best NEFC team I have seen in the last 5 years and we've seen 4 of them.  Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Classy words +k and congrats to Cortland on the win. Dlip doesn't think Cortland has much of a shot next week but believe him he is pulling for the Red Dragons big time!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ECoastFootball on November 18, 2012, 10:06:35 PM
Quote from: Dragondad on November 18, 2012, 09:44:42 AM
Generic statement, yes, but it's true and I'm a Cortland guy.  There just isn't much to say about the game that is productive.  Bottom line, we are on to the second round but need to play much better if we are to be competitive against Wesley. Framingham St is the best NEFC team I have seen in the last 5 years and we've seen 4 of them.  Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Interesting to think that as the league splits next year to MASCAC and NEFC, the NEFC will have the Auto bid, but the MASCAC will have 2 teams coming off of playoff bids. Both teams return most of their key players.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on November 19, 2012, 10:49:27 AM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on November 18, 2012, 10:06:35 PM
Quote from: Dragondad on November 18, 2012, 09:44:42 AM
Generic statement, yes, but it's true and I'm a Cortland guy.  There just isn't much to say about the game that is productive.  Bottom line, we are on to the second round but need to play much better if we are to be competitive against Wesley. Framingham St is the best NEFC team I have seen in the last 5 years and we've seen 4 of them.  Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Interesting to think that as the league splits next year to MASCAC and NEFC, the NEFC will have the Auto bid, but the MASCAC will have 2 teams coming off of playoff bids. Both teams return most of their key players.

It seems fair to me considering they are almost stealing a bid from more deserving teams.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 19, 2012, 11:17:09 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 19, 2012, 10:49:27 AM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on November 18, 2012, 10:06:35 PM
Quote from: Dragondad on November 18, 2012, 09:44:42 AM
Generic statement, yes, but it's true and I'm a Cortland guy.  There just isn't much to say about the game that is productive.  Bottom line, we are on to the second round but need to play much better if we are to be competitive against Wesley. Framingham St is the best NEFC team I have seen in the last 5 years and we've seen 4 of them.  Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Interesting to think that as the league splits next year to MASCAC and NEFC, the NEFC will have the Auto bid, but the MASCAC will have 2 teams coming off of playoff bids. Both teams return most of their key players.

It seems fair to me considering they are almost stealing a bid from more deserving teams.

Scientifically speaking, here is what is going to happen next year.  Endicott and Salve duke it out in the NEFC.  One gets the AQ, the other has 1 loss and gets a Pool C.  Framingham St and Bridgewater St go 10-0 and 9-1(in either order), both get Pool C bids. 

Get used to it.  Instead of our bitching about getting a Pool A and a Pool C, next year they'll get 1 Pool A and 3 Pool C's, and the following year 2 a piece.  Write that down.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on November 19, 2012, 11:19:15 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 19, 2012, 11:17:09 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 19, 2012, 10:49:27 AM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on November 18, 2012, 10:06:35 PM
Quote from: Dragondad on November 18, 2012, 09:44:42 AM
Generic statement, yes, but it's true and I'm a Cortland guy.  There just isn't much to say about the game that is productive.  Bottom line, we are on to the second round but need to play much better if we are to be competitive against Wesley. Framingham St is the best NEFC team I have seen in the last 5 years and we've seen 4 of them.  Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Interesting to think that as the league splits next year to MASCAC and NEFC, the NEFC will have the Auto bid, but the MASCAC will have 2 teams coming off of playoff bids. Both teams return most of their key players.

It seems fair to me considering they are almost stealing a bid from more deserving teams.

Scientifically speaking, here is what is going to happen next year.  Endicott and Save duke it out in the NEFC.  One gets the AQ, the other has 1 loss and gets a Pool C.  Framingham St and Bridgewater St go 10-0 and 9-1(in either order), both get Pool C bids. 

Get used to it.  Instead of our bitching about getting a Pool A and a Pool C, next year they'll get 1 Pool A and 3 Pool C's, and the following year 2 a piece.  Write that down.

All while never having to schedule a game outside of the NEFC, MASCAC, or ECFC...f'ing fantastic!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on November 19, 2012, 11:20:58 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 19, 2012, 11:17:09 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 19, 2012, 10:49:27 AM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on November 18, 2012, 10:06:35 PM
Quote from: Dragondad on November 18, 2012, 09:44:42 AM
Generic statement, yes, but it's true and I'm a Cortland guy.  There just isn't much to say about the game that is productive.  Bottom line, we are on to the second round but need to play much better if we are to be competitive against Wesley. Framingham St is the best NEFC team I have seen in the last 5 years and we've seen 4 of them.  Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Interesting to think that as the league splits next year to MASCAC and NEFC, the NEFC will have the Auto bid, but the MASCAC will have 2 teams coming off of playoff bids. Both teams return most of their key players.

It seems fair to me considering they are almost stealing a bid from more deserving teams.

Scientifically speaking, here is what is going to happen next year.  Endicott and Save duke it out in the NEFC.  One gets the AQ, the other has 1 loss and gets a Pool C.  Framingham St and Bridgewater St go 10-0 and 9-1(in either order), both get Pool C bids. 

Get used to it.  Instead of our bitching about getting a Pool A and a Pool C, next year they'll get 1 Pool A and 3 Pool C's, and the following year 2 a piece.  Write that down.

Dear Lord, the NEFC gets a Pool C bid and now everyone's worried the D3 world is going to hell in a handbasket. 

Just last year an 8-2 St. John Fisher got in over a few 9-1 teams with weaker SOS and we threw our hands up in a collective hallelujah.  There's no reason to believe that this one bid for an NEFC team means that the 9-1 NEFC/MASCAC runnerup is a guaranteed entry in the future.  The last time an NEFC team got a Pool C bid before this was five years ago (and that particular team WON its first round playoff game).

Step down off the ledge, guys, life is really worth it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 19, 2012, 11:24:07 AM
The point is that the NCAA is clearly showing that they have a hard time overlooking 9-1 teams.  The NEFC SOS is always decent because they play each other.  Their SOOS is non-existent.  Don't be surprised.  Sooner than later the 'East' playoff reps are going to be made up of schools that a 7-3 Fisher beats 63-7.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on November 19, 2012, 11:30:42 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 19, 2012, 11:24:07 AM
The point is that the NCAA is clearly showing that they have a hard time overlooking 9-1 teams. 

Really?

Last year, 8-2 St. John Fisher got in while a 9-1 Case Western team (who was actually 9-0 in-region) got into the playoffs - which was the right decision, by the way - and we all cheered.

This year, beyond the Bridgewater State fiasco, several OTHER 9-1 teams were left out (Ohio Wesleyan, Waynesburg) while 8-2 teams (LaCollege, Bethel) did get in.  If the NCAA was really that hard-up about putting in all 9-1 teams, OWU and Waynesburg would have made it and Louisiana College, Bethel, etc would have been left out.

I think you guys are wayyyyy too worked up about what this means going forward.  Yes, I think it's bad that Bridgewater State got a bid this year.  No, I don't think it portends the doomsday scenario that you all expect.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 19, 2012, 11:34:38 AM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 19, 2012, 11:30:42 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 19, 2012, 11:24:07 AM
The point is that the NCAA is clearly showing that they have a hard time overlooking 9-1 teams. 

Really?

Last year, 8-2 St. John Fisher got in while a 9-1 Case Western team (who was actually 9-0 in-region) got into the playoffs - which was the right decision, by the way - and we all cheered.

This year, beyond the Bridgewater State fiasco, several OTHER 9-1 teams were left out (Ohio Wesleyan, Waynesburg) while 8-2 teams (LaCollege, Bethel) did get in.  If the NCAA was really that hard-up about putting in all 9-1 teams, OWU and Waynesburg would have made it and Louisiana College, Bethel, etc would have been left out.

I think you guys are wayyyyy too worked up about what this means going forward.  Yes, I think it's bad that Bridgewater State got a bid this year.  No, I don't think it portends the doomsday scenario that you all expect.

It's not a doomsday scenario.  The year Curry got the Pool C, most of us accepted it because Curry earned it.  Outside of Curry, what has the NEFC ever done in the playoffs to deserve that bid this year?  NOTHING!  But obviously, on paper Bridgewater St was an obvious choice(I even accept this), but in reality, everyone knew they were not.  What does that tell me?  There is a way to beat the system, and teams are figuring it out. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 19, 2012, 12:29:05 PM
Next year the MASCAC would be eligible for Pool B only. And I'd be interested to see if Western Connecticut coming into the league from the NJAC could compete and knock off some of those top contenders.

Pool B is going to be alright in 2013 but will probably be tough in 2014.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on November 19, 2012, 01:52:13 PM
One further observation on the Framingham State-Cortland game:

I am going to assume that the running back from Framingham State, Van Alstyne, is quite a difference maker and was the biggest reason Framingham stayed in the game with Cortland, if the box score is any indication.  Whatever we collectively think of NEFC football, I am impressed that they had a running back gain 227 yards and two touchdowns with NO passing threat to speak of.  Incredibly, while the kid did end up with 31 carries, you might argue that the Framingham staff's biggest mistake wasn't giving him the ball even more (considering that 23 passing attempts resulted in 56 yards and 4 interceptions).  Is it possible that Framingham could have won if they'd essentially abandoned the passing game and just tried to grind it out?  Anyone actually see this game who can offer some thoughts?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ECoastFootball on November 19, 2012, 06:19:51 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 19, 2012, 11:24:07 AM
The point is that the NCAA is clearly showing that they have a hard time overlooking 9-1 teams.  The NEFC SOS is always decent because they play each other.  Their SOOS is non-existent.  Don't be surprised.  Sooner than later the 'East' playoff reps are going to be made up of schools that a 7-3 Fisher beats 63-7.

Just remember, NEFC/MASCAC is different than the ECFC. The team Fisher beat 63-7 is an ECFC team. When they played Endicott, the 4th best team in the NEFC this year, they lost 66-14.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: wesleydad on November 19, 2012, 06:58:17 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 19, 2012, 01:52:13 PM
One further observation on the Framingham State-Cortland game:

I am going to assume that the running back from Framingham State, Van Alstyne, is quite a difference maker and was the biggest reason Framingham stayed in the game with Cortland, if the box score is any indication.  Whatever we collectively think of NEFC football, I am impressed that they had a running back gain 227 yards and two touchdowns with NO passing threat to speak of.  Incredibly, while the kid did end up with 31 carries, you might argue that the Framingham staff's biggest mistake wasn't giving him the ball even more (considering that 23 passing attempts resulted in 56 yards and 4 interceptions).  Is it possible that Framingham could have won if they'd essentially abandoned the passing game and just tried to grind it out?  Anyone actually see this game who can offer some thoughts?

etp, good points, gave you plus one earlier so i cant give you anymore.  cortland looks like they were lucky to get the win and giving up 227 yards on the ground to van alstyne does not bode well for them this week against wesley.  wesley has a passing threat and can run a little, could get ugly if wesley does not turn the ball over.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: continental on November 24, 2012, 07:36:50 AM
2013 NEFC schedule posted...some interesting games ooc including MIT going to Cali

http://www.newenglandfootballconference.com/seasons/2013/2013_NEFC_Schedule.pdf
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: GoTech73 on December 06, 2012, 03:41:27 PM
Quote from: continental on November 24, 2012, 07:36:50 AM
2013 NEFC schedule posted...some interesting games ooc including MIT going to Cali

http://www.newenglandfootballconference.com/seasons/2013/2013_NEFC_Schedule.pdf

Yeah that trip to Pomona Pitzer is part of a program at MIT that a big donor put in place a few years ago. Basically, the donor gave a large sum of money to fund a big road trip game for most or all of the varsity programs at MIT. That trip is the one for the football team. Those that follow Men's Basketball in the region might have noticed MIT MBB has a trip to LaVerne out in Cali this winter - that's funded by the same program.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: gordonmann on December 07, 2012, 03:44:25 PM
Cool story about former Plymouth State star Joe Dudek:

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8723116/the-story-bo-jackson-joe-dudek
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: clandfan on December 08, 2012, 09:36:10 AM
Hello All:

A heartwarming story.  Please watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUHToXvxJDk
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Shoreman on December 18, 2012, 07:25:38 AM
Coast guards game with Hampden Sydney will be a challenge H-S is usually very, very good.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mattvsmith on December 18, 2012, 10:24:50 AM
Quote from: Shoreman on December 18, 2012, 07:25:38 AM
Coast guards game with Hampden Sydney will be a challenge H-S is usually very, very good.

Although I graduated from Hobart, I'm in the Coast Guard Auxiliary and therefore a big fan of the Academy's teams. I'm very glad to see Hampton-Sydney on the schedule. I think the Bears have a heck of a lot of potential to be respectable in the East Region. I hope that playing challenging OOC teams will help them improve.

Let me be perfectly frank. The boys at USCGA are, by nature of their appointment and vocation as future officers, athletic. They are also excellent students. They should be leading by example. I can't understand why they are not conference champs or at least real contenders. (I'm ignoring that their linemen are at a natural disadvantage due to height/weight requirements.)

Are my expectations too high?

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on December 18, 2012, 11:24:41 AM
Quote from: Rt Rev J.H. Hobart on December 18, 2012, 10:24:50 AM
Quote from: Shoreman on December 18, 2012, 07:25:38 AM
Coast guards game with Hampden Sydney will be a challenge H-S is usually very, very good.

Although I graduated from Hobart, I'm in the Coast Guard Auxiliary and therefore a big fan of the Academy's teams. I'm very glad to see Hampton-Sydney on the schedule. I think the Bears have a heck of a lot of potential to be respectable in the East Region. I hope that playing challenging OOC teams will help them improve.

Let me be perfectly frank. The boys at USCGA are, by nature of their appointment and vocation as future officers, athletic. They are also excellent students. They should be leading by example. I can't understand why they are not conference champs or at least real contenders. (I'm ignoring that their linemen are at a natural disadvantage due to height/weight requirements.)

Are my expectations too high?

I don't think so...they have had some rough years, but also some very, very competitive teams over the last 15-20 years or so.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jknezek on December 18, 2012, 11:33:50 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on December 18, 2012, 11:24:41 AM
Quote from: Rt Rev J.H. Hobart on December 18, 2012, 10:24:50 AM
Quote from: Shoreman on December 18, 2012, 07:25:38 AM
Coast guards game with Hampden Sydney will be a challenge H-S is usually very, very good.

Although I graduated from Hobart, I'm in the Coast Guard Auxiliary and therefore a big fan of the Academy's teams. I'm very glad to see Hampton-Sydney on the schedule. I think the Bears have a heck of a lot of potential to be respectable in the East Region. I hope that playing challenging OOC teams will help them improve.

Let me be perfectly frank. The boys at USCGA are, by nature of their appointment and vocation as future officers, athletic. They are also excellent students. They should be leading by example. I can't understand why they are not conference champs or at least real contenders. (I'm ignoring that their linemen are at a natural disadvantage due to height/weight requirements.)

Are my expectations too high?

I don't think so...they have had some rough years, but also some very, very competitive teams over the last 15-20 years or so.

A very intriguing matchup. I look forward to watching it. I think H-SC will return to a little better form next year (4 losses this year was an outlier), and expect them to challenge for the ODAC championship again. They have an excellent QB in Nash Nance and a very good coach in Marty Favret. Just my gut, but I think HSC will be the better team, but there is precious little to compare to draw that conclusion. These types of OOC matchups always make for an intriguing test of strength.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on December 18, 2012, 01:11:58 PM
Quote from: Rt Rev J.H. Hobart on December 18, 2012, 10:24:50 AM
Quote from: Shoreman on December 18, 2012, 07:25:38 AM
Coast guards game with Hampden Sydney will be a challenge H-S is usually very, very good.

Although I graduated from Hobart, I'm in the Coast Guard Auxiliary and therefore a big fan of the Academy's teams. I'm very glad to see Hampton-Sydney on the schedule. I think the Bears have a heck of a lot of potential to be respectable in the East Region. I hope that playing challenging OOC teams will help them improve.

Let me be perfectly frank. The boys at USCGA are, by nature of their appointment and vocation as future officers, athletic. They are also excellent students. They should be leading by example. I can't understand why they are not conference champs or at least real contenders. (I'm ignoring that their linemen are at a natural disadvantage due to height/weight requirements.)

Are my expectations too high?

Rev they are a no-huddle spread option team and basically need a playmaker on offense to be successful.  They had a kid at QB named George a few years back who was a stud and could do everything on his own.  Since he left they have been ok.  One of the smallest teams I've ever seen, but tough as nails. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mattvsmith on December 18, 2012, 08:06:05 PM
Li'l Rev is 15 months old and I'm already talking to him about Coast Guard Academy and making him play ball. I think he'll be ready when the time comes (2028) for him to attend.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on December 22, 2012, 11:45:29 PM
Rev. remember that little Rev has to be at least 6' tall to get into the Coast Guard Academy.  This is in case their cutter sinks at least they can wade back into shore.   ;D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: JustAFan on February 04, 2013, 09:02:49 PM
Rumor has it that the Salve head coach is leaving for DII Assumption College after just 2 years at Salve. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NjAllDay on February 04, 2013, 09:58:59 PM
Chesney spent 3 years at Salve, made an immediate impact and managed to turn a team around from the bottom to the top instantly.  Wish him all the best at Assumption not all sure what kind of talent pool they're dealing with there but I'm sure we can expect more of the same from him no matter where he is.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on February 05, 2013, 05:11:35 AM
I agree, he's done a great job at Salve.  I think he's a top notch coach and a good guy.  Best of luck to him!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on February 05, 2013, 07:30:55 AM
Just as a D3 football fan, I'm disappointed because it was fun to see Chesney upgrading that program - I had hopes that he'd continue in that vein & lift the entire level of play among NEFC schools. Certainly don't begrudge him the chance to coach at a bigger program though - congrats are in order, and I'd expect he will do quite well there.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on February 05, 2013, 09:07:40 AM
I'd go out on a limb and say that this easily makes Assumption a candidate for the D2 National Championship.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on March 04, 2013, 03:30:54 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on February 05, 2013, 09:07:40 AM
I'd go out on a limb and say that this easily makes Assumption a candidate for the D2 National Championship.

Or at the very worst, when they win their first two or three games this year, no matter who they are against, we can start yelling that they should be nationally ranked.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mattvsmith on March 04, 2013, 06:36:07 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on March 04, 2013, 03:30:54 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on February 05, 2013, 09:07:40 AM
I'd go out on a limb and say that this easily makes Assumption a candidate for the D2 National Championship.

Or at the very worst, when they win their first two or three games this year, no matter who they are against, we can start yelling that they should be nationally ranked.

Why wait? I'm calling it now. Automatic playoff bid.

Taste it.

Phone it in.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 04, 2013, 09:51:32 PM
I think we're already getting tweets about it demanding they be nationally ranked.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on March 05, 2013, 10:56:42 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on February 05, 2013, 09:07:40 AM
I'd go out on a limb and say that this easily makes Assumption a candidate for the D2 National Championship.

Pep presumes that everyone here is assuming that a coach of Chesney's caliber, with the added use of some D2 scholarships, can make an immediate impact....a pretty solid Assumption, IMHO.

On Saxon Warriors!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on March 08, 2013, 06:47:41 AM
That's funny, when I was reading this I had a question.  If NESCAC switched over from D3 to D2, they could keep the same status (be listed in the Division, just don't play anyobody else in it)and just give out  scholorships above board.  My question is, how many of you would vote for Trinity or Amherst in that top 25 too?  :)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on March 08, 2013, 05:00:53 PM
uhhhhhhh.....what?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Yanks 99 on March 11, 2013, 02:31:16 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on March 08, 2013, 05:00:53 PM
uhhhhhhh.....what?

This should clear it up:

Hey, I'll tell you what, you can get a good look at a butcher's ass by sticking your head up there...but wouldn't you rather to take his word for it?  No...what I mean is, you can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking your head up a butcher's ass...no, wait...it's got to be your bull.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mattvsmith on September 06, 2013, 08:57:10 PM
Any USCGA fans besides me out there? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on September 07, 2013, 11:50:11 AM
Quote from: Rt Rev J.H. Hobart on September 06, 2013, 08:57:10 PM
Any USCGA fans besides me out there? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Rev,

I follow the USCGA.  Two of the coaches are Ithaca gads and friends of mine (head coach and DC). 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on September 07, 2013, 01:23:45 PM
Endicott coming out swinging on big bad Framingham.  Wheres charles at?  Rah....Rah?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Trin9-0 on September 09, 2013, 10:52:39 AM
Quote from: Rt Rev J.H. Hobart on September 06, 2013, 08:57:10 PM
Any USCGA fans besides me out there? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

I've just recently started following the Coast Guard football program, as I started a new job at the Academy last week. Brutal loss for the Bears to open the '13 season. Looks like they're going to have some growing pains at QB and offensive line. Looking forward to catching my first game at what has to be one of, if not the most, picturesque settings for a college football game in all of New England.

Also of note, the CGA will be honoring the '63 team which was coached by Otto Graham, had an undefeated regular season and appeared in the Tangerine Bowl. There will no doubt be plenty of pomp and circumstance complete with throwback uniforms for the Coasties.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: mattvsmith on September 09, 2013, 11:04:49 AM
I'll check out the website for pix of the throwback uniforms.
I was bummed that CGA lost to St Lawrence.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan142511 on September 12, 2013, 09:28:53 AM
Week 2 Picks

WNEC 42
Westfield 14

West Conn 28
Nichols 24

Anna Maria 17
Maine Maritime 28

Salve 24
Montclair 27

MIT 31
Becker 24

Endicott 55
Castleton 10

Fitchburg 24
Curry 34

Coast Guard 31
Merchant Marine 35

Can Salve go down to Jersey and upset a NJAC School? Can Nicholls match their win total over last three years with win over West Conn? How will Endicott, Maine and MIT do against the bottom (Castleton lost best players) of the ECFC? Can Coast Guard and Fitchburg regroup after tough losses?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ECoastFootball on September 12, 2013, 10:19:29 AM
Don't disagree with too many of these. Few slight disagreements:

- I do not think the West Conn-Nichols game will be close.
- Anna Maria may beat Maine Maritime, it's a true tossup. May not have been any type of upset last year. Maine has been BAD for a few years now. Don't know much about the AMCat O with out Conception though.
- I think Salve will beat Montclair, and I don't think it will be an upset. They beat them last year, and the game was not as close on the scoreboard as it was on the field.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan142511 on September 12, 2013, 11:20:43 AM
Anna Maria their RB Small back...However losing their QB and Conception their offense has taken a step back. Their defense has always been a weak point and they did not show signs of improvement in week 1. Do not know much about Maine though.....I forgot Salve beat Montclair last year. I think it is tougher to go on the road to win a big game like this. I hope Salve does win.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 15, 2013, 05:16:43 PM
Went throught the play by play of the Salve Regina game, it appears that it really went to the last play. I think that Salve is going to be a good team to watch the remaining of the season.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan142511 on September 19, 2013, 08:54:29 AM
5-3 last week...even though I won the West Conn game I missed on the score bad!

Week 3 Predictions

Mass Maritime 42
Maine Maritime 10

Hampton-Sydney-38
Coast Guard-17

Kean -24
Endicott-21

Only three games on the schedule this week. I hope Endicott can pull off a big win vs Kean.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan142511 on September 26, 2013, 09:30:49 AM
3-0 last week

Endicott-35
Curry-21

MIT-17
Salve-20

WNEC-38
Maine-14

Coast Guard-14
Nicholls-24
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 26, 2013, 03:25:00 PM
Gallaudet with the Int...this game is interesting surprisingly.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ITH radio on December 05, 2013, 11:15:07 AM
Hobart to play Endicott and Curry in 2014:

http://www.hwsathletics.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=958&path=football
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Upstate on December 05, 2013, 12:50:23 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on December 05, 2013, 11:15:07 AM
Hobart to play Endicott and Curry in 2014:

http://www.hwsathletics.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=958&path=football

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-Y2pK2kI5ZE8%2FT8uL-EsSGdI%2FAAAAAAAAE4w%2Fvmu1ogsL-wg%2Fs1600%2Fare_you_kidding_me_rage_face_meme_flyer-p244937788706157944bfpe8_400.jpg&hash=594c81c5ad1da9f96b832523906bf02a5e9981a0)

Wow Hobart, nothing says preparing themselves for the NCAAs like scheduling two schools from a conference that have won 2 NCAA playoff games in it's entire existence....

Was Norwich or Mt. Ida busy those weekends???
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on December 05, 2013, 01:57:35 PM
Quote from: Upstate on December 05, 2013, 12:50:23 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on December 05, 2013, 11:15:07 AM
Hobart to play Endicott and Curry in 2014:

http://www.hwsathletics.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=958&path=football

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-Y2pK2kI5ZE8%2FT8uL-EsSGdI%2FAAAAAAAAE4w%2Fvmu1ogsL-wg%2Fs1600%2Fare_you_kidding_me_rage_face_meme_flyer-p244937788706157944bfpe8_400.jpg&hash=594c81c5ad1da9f96b832523906bf02a5e9981a0)

Wow Hobart, nothing says preparing themselves for the NCAAs like scheduling two schools from a conference that have won 2 NCAA playoff games in it's entire existence....

Was Norwich or Mt. Ida busy those weekends???

No, RPI and Springfield had them booked already.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on December 05, 2013, 02:06:41 PM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on December 05, 2013, 01:57:35 PM
Quote from: Upstate on December 05, 2013, 12:50:23 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on December 05, 2013, 11:15:07 AM
Hobart to play Endicott and Curry in 2014:

http://www.hwsathletics.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=958&path=football

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-Y2pK2kI5ZE8%2FT8uL-EsSGdI%2FAAAAAAAAE4w%2Fvmu1ogsL-wg%2Fs1600%2Fare_you_kidding_me_rage_face_meme_flyer-p244937788706157944bfpe8_400.jpg&hash=594c81c5ad1da9f96b832523906bf02a5e9981a0)

Wow Hobart, nothing says preparing themselves for the NCAAs like scheduling two schools from a conference that have won 2 NCAA playoff games in it's entire existence....

Was Norwich or Mt. Ida busy those weekends???

No, RPI and Springfield had them booked already.

I would guess it would be a good thing for NEFC by scheduling Hobart. Makes their schedule look better, good job for them.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ITH radio on December 05, 2013, 03:04:47 PM
Hobart (HWS overall) also has a HUGE alumni base (some even have blazing speed) in Boston (probably second to NYC).  I imagine the Advancement Office will love having back to back "Boston games" and they did just hire a guy / fundraiser who's based out of Boston (vs. Geneva).  That could have something to do with it too.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Upstate on December 05, 2013, 03:22:20 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on December 05, 2013, 02:06:41 PM
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Hobart to play Endicott and Curry in 2014:

http://www.hwsathletics.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=958&path=football

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Wow Hobart, nothing says preparing themselves for the NCAAs like scheduling two schools from a conference that have won 2 NCAA playoff games in it's entire existence....

Was Norwich or Mt. Ida busy those weekends???

No, RPI and Springfield had them booked already.

I would guess it would be a good thing for NEFC by scheduling Hobart. Makes their schedule look better, good job for them.

Absolutely agree, good job by those two teams to schedule up!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on August 26, 2014, 10:34:18 PM
Going to be very interesting within the NEFC this year...looking forward to the conference getting better to improve the East outlook...I know next year the NJAC is going to help out with that with both CNU and Wesley joining.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pizzashop on September 06, 2014, 04:59:58 AM
Gold ball will get a new name:  http://bangordailynews.com/2014/09/05/sports/new-england-football-conference-to-honor-former-maine-maritime-academy-athletic-director/ (http://bangordailynews.com/2014/09/05/sports/new-england-football-conference-to-honor-former-maine-maritime-academy-athletic-director/)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on September 06, 2014, 08:36:09 AM
Congrats to WNEC on the hard fought win over Springfield last night. That is turning into a nice rivalry. Very impressed with WNEC's offense.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on September 06, 2014, 11:04:22 AM
First two games in the series both were classics. Last years game was set to come down to a game tying field goal at the end of regulation until a pick six ended it.

Love the offense and grit of the team. Could've easily have given up after the fumble for a TD by Springfield to go up 11. They have some concerns on the defensive side, especially the secondary, but if Ward ends up being the answer at QB that he appeared to be last night then that offense is going to carry them into NEFC contention.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 06, 2014, 11:27:29 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on September 06, 2014, 11:04:22 AM
First two games in the series both were classics. Last years game was set to come down to a game tying field goal at the end of regulation until a pick six ended it.

Love the offense and grit of the team. Could've easily have given up after the fumble for a TD by Springfield to go up 11. They have some concerns on the defensive side, especially the secondary, but if Ward ends up being the answer at QB that he appeared to be last night then that offense is going to carry them into NEFC contention.

Jackson, any idea how the secondary struggled. I know traditionally Springfield runs the option and then throws the occasional play action pass. Were there bigs plays given up or simply one on one plays?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on September 06, 2014, 11:55:30 AM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on September 06, 2014, 11:27:29 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on September 06, 2014, 11:04:22 AM
First two games in the series both were classics. Last years game was set to come down to a game tying field goal at the end of regulation until a pick six ended it.

Love the offense and grit of the team. Could've easily have given up after the fumble for a TD by Springfield to go up 11. They have some concerns on the defensive side, especially the secondary, but if Ward ends up being the answer at QB that he appeared to be last night then that offense is going to carry them into NEFC contention.

Jackson, any idea how the secondary struggled. I know traditionally Springfield runs the option and then throws the occasional play action pass. Were there bigs plays given up or simply one on one plays?

Bit the play fake too often. WNE had 7-8 in the box most plays with one on one receivers. Too many times in passing downs Springfield would have a read option that the corners would bite on and leave the receivers wide open. Granted I think all the safeties are new and the DBs are only sophomores so that's something that can be changed with experience. Which is better than just having them not be fast enough to keep up. But its still a concern that needs to be worked on.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 28, 2014, 12:27:04 PM
With MIT being 3-0, I don't know what to say of the NEFC, did Salve implode due to the close losses to both William Patterson and Montclair State. It appeared from the box score that MIT was clearly the better team heading into the half, then Salve made the score respectable in the second half. So, is MIT the real deal. I think both WNEC and Endicott will have something to say about that. I think Endicott and WNEC are currently my picks to the crown of the NEFC with MIT most likely coming in third. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 05, 2014, 02:59:07 PM
Can't get a good read on the conference. Haven't gotten a chance to see Salve yet. I expected them and Endicott to be Tier A with WNEC, MIT and Curry Tier B. So far it looks like MIT is the team to beat. When WNEC's offense gets going its the best in the conference. Other than the Maine Maritime game though they haven't played at that level at full 60 minutes. I'm concerned with them not facing a real opponent yet though. Like Endicott but the fact that they struggled the first half against Maine yesterday is a red flag for me. After this weekend we'll have a better idea, but right now I'm guessing it'll be MIT 7-0 WNEC 6-1, Endicott 4-3 and Salve 4-3.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 05, 2014, 04:13:41 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 05, 2014, 02:59:07 PM
Can't get a good read on the conference. Haven't gotten a chance to see Salve yet. I expected them and Endicott to be Tier A with WNEC, MIT and Curry Tier B. So far it looks like MIT is the team to beat. When WNEC's offense gets going its the best in the conference. Other than the Maine Maritime game though they haven't played at that level at full 60 minutes. I'm concerned with them not facing a real opponent yet though. Like Endicott but the fact that they struggled the first half against Maine yesterday is a red flag for me. After this weekend we'll have a better idea, but right now I'm guessing it'll be MIT 7-0 WNEC 6-1, Endicott 4-3 and Salve 4-3.

Yes,

I wasn't to able to watch many games yesterday in all of Division III due to my travel schedule, however after going through the box scores and the old comparative verse opponents, I can say that MIT is looking really go right now, but I think WNEC had some key turnovers in the game (not taking anything away from Coast Guard) that probably prevented the wider spread. As for Endicott, I think the strong test against two conference favorites in that of Framingham State and Hobart may continue to help them in the confidence category. Right now I have WNEC at number 1 and MIT and Endicott at #2. As you aforementioned, we will see what MIT is in three weeks and WNEC in two weeks when they face off against a struggling Union team that has had some tough losses over the course of the season. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 05, 2014, 08:40:03 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on October 05, 2014, 04:13:41 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 05, 2014, 02:59:07 PM
Can't get a good read on the conference. Haven't gotten a chance to see Salve yet. I expected them and Endicott to be Tier A with WNEC, MIT and Curry Tier B. So far it looks like MIT is the team to beat. When WNEC's offense gets going its the best in the conference. Other than the Maine Maritime game though they haven't played at that level at full 60 minutes. I'm concerned with them not facing a real opponent yet though. Like Endicott but the fact that they struggled the first half against Maine yesterday is a red flag for me. After this weekend we'll have a better idea, but right now I'm guessing it'll be MIT 7-0 WNEC 6-1, Endicott 4-3 and Salve 4-3.

Yes,

I wasn't to able to watch many games yesterday in all of Division III due to my travel schedule, however after going through the box scores and the old comparative verse opponents, I can say that MIT is looking really go right now, but I think WNEC had some key turnovers in the game (not taking anything away from Coast Guard) that probably prevented the wider spread. As for Endicott, I think the strong test against two conference favorites in that of Framingham State and Hobart may continue to help them in the confidence category. Right now I have WNEC at number 1 and MIT and Endicott at #2. As you aforementioned, we will see what MIT is in three weeks and WNEC in two weeks when they face off against a struggling Union team that has had some tough losses over the course of the season. 

My only grudge against MIT is the strength of schedule so far. They have beaten 3 winless teams and Salve, but they have had Salve's number in the past, beating them 2 years ago when Salve went to the NEFC championship game as a 5-5 team. MIT always seems to play them tough. At least WNEC has what I believe to be two quality wins against Springfield and Westfield. Even though we don't know how good Westfield is until they play Framingham this week, they are traditionally a solid program. Springfield looks to be a contender in the LL and we will know for sure after this week when they play Hobart. Endicott has lost a close game to Framingham who looks to be legit, lost by ten to Hobart, a top ten team in the nation, and beat Kean of the NJAC. I still think this conference comes down to the Endicott vs WNEC game again and I'm leaning towards WNEC again. I think WNEC is going to handle Union this week, and the more I've looked into WNEC the more I like them. I like their running back Cook and I think some of the secondary concerns from the Springfield game are just nuisances of playing triple option teams. But if secondary is truly the weakness of WNEC then they will have a tough time versus Endicott because Ferdette is good.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 06, 2014, 12:21:00 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 05, 2014, 08:40:03 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on October 05, 2014, 04:13:41 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 05, 2014, 02:59:07 PM
Can't get a good read on the conference. Haven't gotten a chance to see Salve yet. I expected them and Endicott to be Tier A with WNEC, MIT and Curry Tier B. So far it looks like MIT is the team to beat. When WNEC's offense gets going its the best in the conference. Other than the Maine Maritime game though they haven't played at that level at full 60 minutes. I'm concerned with them not facing a real opponent yet though. Like Endicott but the fact that they struggled the first half against Maine yesterday is a red flag for me. After this weekend we'll have a better idea, but right now I'm guessing it'll be MIT 7-0 WNEC 6-1, Endicott 4-3 and Salve 4-3.

Yes,

I wasn't to able to watch many games yesterday in all of Division III due to my travel schedule, however after going through the box scores and the old comparative verse opponents, I can say that MIT is looking really go right now, but I think WNEC had some key turnovers in the game (not taking anything away from Coast Guard) that probably prevented the wider spread. As for Endicott, I think the strong test against two conference favorites in that of Framingham State and Hobart may continue to help them in the confidence category. Right now I have WNEC at number 1 and MIT and Endicott at #2. As you aforementioned, we will see what MIT is in three weeks and WNEC in two weeks when they face off against a struggling Union team that has had some tough losses over the course of the season. 

My only grudge against MIT is the strength of schedule so far. They have beaten 3 winless teams and Salve, but they have had Salve's number in the past, beating them 2 years ago when Salve went to the NEFC championship game as a 5-5 team. MIT always seems to play them tough. At least WNEC has what I believe to be two quality wins against Springfield and Westfield. Even though we don't know how good Westfield is until they play Framingham this week, they are traditionally a solid program. Springfield looks to be a contender in the LL and we will know for sure after this week when they play Hobart. Endicott has lost a close game to Framingham who looks to be legit, lost by ten to Hobart, a top ten team in the nation, and beat Kean of the NJAC. I still think this conference comes down to the Endicott vs WNEC game again and I'm leaning towards WNEC again. I think WNEC is going to handle Union this week, and the more I've looked into WNEC the more I like them. I like their running back Cook and I think some of the secondary concerns from the Springfield game are just nuisances of playing triple option teams. But if secondary is truly the weakness of WNEC then they will have a tough time versus Endicott because Ferdette is good.

The secondary is much improved from the first two weeks. Alot of one on one coverage on deep passes yesterday and the DB's didn't get beat. Etuka is very good as is Olson at Safety. Coast Guard had alot of issues with the rain yesterday which lead to a ton of dropped passes and prevented their offense from functioning. Still WNE had a 70 or 80 something TD yard run by Cook called back because of a questionable block in the back call. The drive then ended two plays later on a fumbled snap.

This weekend's game against Salve should give us a pretty good idea of how the conference is going to be for those two teams. I hadn't considered MIT having Salve's number lately. Thinking about it that does make more sense as the MIT-Salve result was pretty unexpected. Unfortunately for Endicott their three games come the final 3 weeks, with two of them being on the road back to back. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 12, 2014, 06:26:22 PM
Salve really gave WNEC everything this past Saturday, it was a really a barn-burner outside the turnovers. I think the turnovers really killed Salve, otherwise it could of easily been a win for Salve, but you have to play the game. I think Salve was the better team, they were more balance than WNEC. Looking forward to the WNEC game against Union this upcoming weekend, Union continues to struggle, I thought they would have gotten their first win against WPI. Hopefully WNEC can continue to be opportunistic and continue to play well and hopefully remain undefeated, a loss this upcoming week will not look to well for the conference.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 12, 2014, 06:56:40 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on October 12, 2014, 06:26:22 PM
Salve really gave WNEC everything this past Saturday, it was a really a barn-burner outside the turnovers. I think the turnovers really killed Salve, otherwise it could of easily been a win for Salve, but you have to play the game. I think Salve was the better team, they were more balance than WNEC. Looking forward to the WNEC game against Union this upcoming weekend, Union continues to struggle, I thought they would have gotten their first win against WPI. Hopefully WNEC can continue to be opportunistic and continue to play well and hopefully remain undefeated, a loss this upcoming week will not look to well for the conference.

Salve looked good, but the game didn't come down to turnovers. Salve has great line play on both sides which caused issues for WNE, but WNEC looked better at all of the skilled positions. Honestly it was a 3 minute span at the end of the first half and start of the second that kept it close. The touchdown off the fumbled punt return and the TD to start the second half when WNE didn't wake up yet kept that close. Without those two scores its a 37-20 game. And not to blame the refs, but they let alot of holds both by the lines and corners to uncalled. That gave Salve an advantage that they wouldn't have had if it was a closely called game.

That said Salve is still a very good team. They're not a 2-4 team that the record would make you think. They'll give Endicott a run for their money and blow out curry, Maine and Cost Guard.

For WNEC, I had some doubts before this week how good they really were. Yeah they were 4-0, but Springfield came down to a last minute score, they didn't really blow out Westfield and Coast Guard was played in a rain storm that prevented Coast Guard from running the offense that they wanted. After yesterday I'm feeling pretty confident choosing them as the favorite in the league. They are legit this year, their QB play is much improved than it was last year along with offensive line play. They also don't have the issues in the secondary that they had last year and the beginning of this year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 13, 2014, 02:02:28 PM
I feel wnec will easily handle union this week. That loss to wpi was bad for their program. If union lulls it out though......... it would be a huge step back for the conference
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: UfanBill on October 13, 2014, 05:36:41 PM
Don't ever underestimate Union.  They have talent,tradition and desire.  They will put things together this weekend and  beat WNEC.  ;)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on October 13, 2014, 06:51:55 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 13, 2014, 02:02:28 PM
I feel wnec will easily handle union this week. That loss to wpi was bad for their program. If union lulls it out though......... it would be a huge step back for the conference

WNEC throws the football well and that always spells trouble for a Dutchmen D that has not had strong play from their secondary in years. That is simply the recipe to beat the Dutchmen, throw the football. With that said, and with Dlip being a fan of this WNEC team (having watched their win over Springfield) he will echo UfanBill's thoughts. This Dutchmen team has a lot of talent at the skill positions on offense as well as some excellent defenders. As of right now this team is a mess, however with the talent they have they should not be underestimated. Dlip see's a possible two TD WNEC win this weekend however, with that being said Dlip would not be shocked if the end result was flipped.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 13, 2014, 11:23:01 PM
Quote from: dlip on October 13, 2014, 06:51:55 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 13, 2014, 02:02:28 PM
I feel wnec will easily handle union this week. That loss to wpi was bad for their program. If union lulls it out though......... it would be a huge step back for the conference

WNEC throws the football well and that always spells trouble for a Dutchmen D that has not had strong play from their secondary in years. That is simply the recipe to beat the Dutchmen, throw the football. With that said, and with Dlip being a fan of this WNEC team (having watched their win over Springfield) he will echo UfanBill's thoughts. This Dutchmen team has a lot of talent at the skill positions on offense as well as some excellent defenders. As of right now this team is a mess, however with the talent they have they should not be underestimated. Dlip see's a possible two TD WNEC win this weekend however, with that being said Dlip would not be shocked if the end result was flipped.

WNEC can throw, but I think the best part of their game judging by the box scores is their ability to run the ball. I think you might be suprised with how well they do on the ground. I will be watching this game on the live feed this week. I don't think I've ever been more intrigued by a matchup of teams with such a polar opposite record this late in the season. But as you Union guys have been saying, I wouldn't be shocked if Union wins this game outright. I'm just not counting on it.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 14, 2014, 03:48:13 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 13, 2014, 11:23:01 PM
Quote from: dlip on October 13, 2014, 06:51:55 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 13, 2014, 02:02:28 PM
I feel wnec will easily handle union this week. That loss to wpi was bad for their program. If union lulls it out though......... it would be a huge step back for the conference

WNEC throws the football well and that always spells trouble for a Dutchmen D that has not had strong play from their secondary in years. That is simply the recipe to beat the Dutchmen, throw the football. With that said, and with Dlip being a fan of this WNEC team (having watched their win over Springfield) he will echo UfanBill's thoughts. This Dutchmen team has a lot of talent at the skill positions on offense as well as some excellent defenders. As of right now this team is a mess, however with the talent they have they should not be underestimated. Dlip see's a possible two TD WNEC win this weekend however, with that being said Dlip would not be shocked if the end result was flipped.

WNEC can throw, but I think the best part of their game judging by the box scores is their ability to run the ball. I think you might be suprised with how well they do on the ground. I will be watching this game on the live feed this week. I don't think I've ever been more intrigued by a matchup of teams with such a polar opposite record this late in the season. But as you Union guys have been saying, I wouldn't be shocked if Union wins this game outright. I'm just not counting on it.

Cook is a beast who would start on every Liberty league team. Only one that he might not start on would be Hobart. He's definitely the load of the offense. If it was a paper, he'd be the part that gets you to a B+. Where WNE excels though is their QB's ability to improvise, along with two great wideouts in Ellis and Walz. Their offense is beating you down with the running game until you have to recognize that you need 7,8 guys in the box and have to respect the run. Once you do that, then they spread the ball out with the passing game for a couple deep plays. Once you start to forget about the running game though and sag the DB's back, they start running the ball down your throat again for 7-8 yards each play. 

Honestly the best way to beat them is to have a defensive line that's stronger than their offensive line to prevent Cook from getting any room and taking the running game out of the equation. If you can do that with just the defensive line and linebackers and allow the secondary to just worry about the receivers, you have a chance at stopping them. Salve and Westfield were able to do this in spurts to keep them in the games, eventually both of them broke though which allowed WNE to do what they wanted in 4th quarter drives to take the lead that they needed.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on October 14, 2014, 03:56:51 AM
Dlip is excited to see what cook brings to the table. Union has a solid d-line (even though it almost always consists of a three man front, hence little pressure) and two excellent LB's in Thomas Hayes and Jake LaRovera. The D's strength is stopping the run so it will be a great match up for sure. Like Dlip has said before. If you can throw the ball well, even if Union knows it's coming, they struggle to contain the passing game of quality offenses. To Dlip, WNEC Looks like a VERY quality O.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ECoastFootball on October 14, 2014, 08:43:30 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 14, 2014, 03:48:13 AMSalve and Westfield were able to do this in spurts to keep them in the games, eventually both of them broke though which allowed WNE to do what they wanted in 4th quarter drives to take the lead that they needed.

In spurts? They only had 340 yards against Westfield and 3 3-and-outs. That game could have gone either way as easily as the Springfield game. They could be 3-2 as easily as they are 5-0. That being said, it is the mark of a good team to win those close games. I think this is a good WNEC team that will probably win the NEFC, but not some offensive juggernaut that can't be stopped. I was more afraid of the Bryce Brown quarterbacked teams a few years ago.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 14, 2014, 06:37:26 PM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on October 14, 2014, 08:43:30 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 14, 2014, 03:48:13 AMSalve and Westfield were able to do this in spurts to keep them in the games, eventually both of them broke though which allowed WNE to do what they wanted in 4th quarter drives to take the lead that they needed.

In spurts? They only had 340 yards against Westfield and 3 3-and-outs. That game could have gone either way as easily as the Springfield game. They could be 3-2 as easily as they are 5-0. That being said, it is the mark of a good team to win those close games. I think this is a good WNEC team that will probably win the NEFC, but not some offensive juggernaut that can't be stopped. I was more afraid of the Bryce Brown quarterbacked teams a few years ago.

If Westfield was able to control them the full 60 minutes they wouldn't have gotten over 300 yards and  WNE wouldn't have walked right down the field the final 2 drives. They did a good job most of the game but wasn't able to close it out at the end.

For the Bryce Brown offense, Brown was the greatest QB in school history other than Walz. So its fair to say that this offense isn't as good as them. That said Ward is still a very good QB and he has Walz and Cook as seniors while Brown only had them as freshmen. Not to mention Ellis as a #2 is a pretty good weapon to have.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ECoastFootball on October 15, 2014, 10:00:48 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 14, 2014, 06:37:26 PM
If Westfield was able to control them the full 60 minutes they wouldn't have gotten over 300 yards and  WNE wouldn't have walked right down the field the final 2 drives. They did a good job most of the game but wasn't able to close it out at the end.

For the Bryce Brown offense, Brown was the greatest QB in school history other than Walz. So its fair to say that this offense isn't as good as them. That said Ward is still a very good QB and he has Walz and Cook as seniors while Brown only had them as freshmen. Not to mention Ellis as a #2 is a pretty good weapon to have.

300 yards of offense is not a good day. 340 yards of offense means you struggled or had an off and on day. I'm guessing you played at WNEC, so you have an affinity for the team, that's ok. They are a good team. I'm just saying they aren't elite, or even as good (offensively or defensively) as the 2011 WNEC team that lost to Mass Maritime and then got killed by Salisbury 62-24. Westfield State is the 3rd or 4th best team in the MASCAC, and WNEC really struggled with them
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 15, 2014, 12:21:33 PM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on October 15, 2014, 10:00:48 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 14, 2014, 06:37:26 PM
If Westfield was able to control them the full 60 minutes they wouldn't have gotten over 300 yards and  WNE wouldn't have walked right down the field the final 2 drives. They did a good job most of the game but wasn't able to close it out at the end.

For the Bryce Brown offense, Brown was the greatest QB in school history other than Walz. So its fair to say that this offense isn't as good as them. That said Ward is still a very good QB and he has Walz and Cook as seniors while Brown only had them as freshmen. Not to mention Ellis as a #2 is a pretty good weapon to have.


300 yards of offense is not a good day. 340 yards of offense means you struggled or had an off and on day. I'm guessing you played at WNEC, so you have an affinity for the team, that's ok. They are a good team. I'm just saying they aren't elite, or even as good (offensively or defensively) as the 2011 WNEC team that lost to Mass Maritime and then got killed by Salisbury 62-24. Westfield State is the 3rd or 4th best team in the MASCAC, and WNEC really struggled with them

That 2011 WNEC team was very opportunistic, I don't want to say lucky because that is taking to much away from them, but I believe that is the year they beat Endicott in a snowstorm up at their place with the Graham kid housing 2 kick returns for them. They also pulled off one of the better comebacks of the year against Framingham that year in the championship game coming back from down 14-0 with like 4 minutes left to win that game in OT to get to the playoffs. I agree with EastCoast, I like their QB they have now, but he is no Bryce Brown, that kid carried them, he wasn't a great thrower, but he could scramble with the best of them and made something out of nothing for them alot. I'm watching their game on the live cast against Union this weekend and I'm hoping to get a better feel for both programs this year, because I've only watched snippets of WNEC this year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 15, 2014, 01:15:22 PM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on October 15, 2014, 10:00:48 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 14, 2014, 06:37:26 PM
If Westfield was able to control them the full 60 minutes they wouldn't have gotten over 300 yards and  WNE wouldn't have walked right down the field the final 2 drives. They did a good job most of the game but wasn't able to close it out at the end.

For the Bryce Brown offense, Brown was the greatest QB in school history other than Walz. So its fair to say that this offense isn't as good as them. That said Ward is still a very good QB and he has Walz and Cook as seniors while Brown only had them as freshmen. Not to mention Ellis as a #2 is a pretty good weapon to have.

300 yards of offense is not a good day. 340 yards of offense means you struggled or had an off and on day. I'm guessing you played at WNEC, so you have an affinity for the team, that's ok. They are a good team. I'm just saying they aren't elite, or even as good (offensively or defensively) as the 2011 WNEC team that lost to Mass Maritime and then got killed by Salisbury 62-24. Westfield State is the 3rd or 4th best team in the MASCAC, and WNEC really struggled with them

Westfield is only giving up 260 yards a game. WNE got 340. So Westfield shut them down despite giving up 80 more yards than they do on average?

For the 2011 team, that was the best team in school history. So yeah this team might not quite be as good as them. I missed the point where I said that this team was better and was a top 25 team. Sorry that I offended you so deeply by saying WNE beat Westfield. I won't bring that up again.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 15, 2014, 01:20:44 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 15, 2014, 12:21:33 PM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on October 15, 2014, 10:00:48 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 14, 2014, 06:37:26 PM
If Westfield was able to control them the full 60 minutes they wouldn't have gotten over 300 yards and  WNE wouldn't have walked right down the field the final 2 drives. They did a good job most of the game but wasn't able to close it out at the end.

For the Bryce Brown offense, Brown was the greatest QB in school history other than Walz. So its fair to say that this offense isn't as good as them. That said Ward is still a very good QB and he has Walz and Cook as seniors while Brown only had them as freshmen. Not to mention Ellis as a #2 is a pretty good weapon to have.


300 yards of offense is not a good day. 340 yards of offense means you struggled or had an off and on day. I'm guessing you played at WNEC, so you have an affinity for the team, that's ok. They are a good team. I'm just saying they aren't elite, or even as good (offensively or defensively) as the 2011 WNEC team that lost to Mass Maritime and then got killed by Salisbury 62-24. Westfield State is the 3rd or 4th best team in the MASCAC, and WNEC really struggled with them

That 2011 WNEC team was very opportunistic, I don't want to say lucky because that is taking to much away from them, but I believe that is the year they beat Endicott in a snowstorm up at their place with the Graham kid housing 2 kick returns for them. They also pulled off one of the better comebacks of the year against Framingham that year in the championship game coming back from down 14-0 with like 4 minutes left to win that game in OT to get to the playoffs. I agree with EastCoast, I like their QB they have now, but he is no Bryce Brown, that kid carried them, he wasn't a great thrower, but he could scramble with the best of them and made something out of nothing for them alot. I'm watching their game on the live cast against Union this weekend and I'm hoping to get a better feel for both programs this year, because I've only watched snippets of WNEC this year.

They got lucky that the Endicott game was played in a blizzard. I don't think that they  win that in normal conditions. The Maine Maritime loss came without Bryce Brown who was injured and the whole offense. If they had him in that game I think they run the table in the regular season. And Salisbury was #7 in the nation I believe going into the tournament. WNE was kind of supposed to get blown out there. And for the Brown vs Ward argument. Ward has better vision but he's not even close to the same athlete that Brown was. There's some plays where Ward is able to scramble and stay alive where Brown would've just tried to take off and gets tackled at the line. But I'd still take Brown over Ward for his overall play anyday.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 15, 2014, 03:36:52 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 15, 2014, 01:20:44 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 15, 2014, 12:21:33 PM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on October 15, 2014, 10:00:48 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 14, 2014, 06:37:26 PM
If Westfield was able to control them the full 60 minutes they wouldn't have gotten over 300 yards and  WNE wouldn't have walked right down the field the final 2 drives. They did a good job most of the game but wasn't able to close it out at the end.

For the Bryce Brown offense, Brown was the greatest QB in school history other than Walz. So its fair to say that this offense isn't as good as them. That said Ward is still a very good QB and he has Walz and Cook as seniors while Brown only had them as freshmen. Not to mention Ellis as a #2 is a pretty good weapon to have.


300 yards of offense is not a good day. 340 yards of offense means you struggled or had an off and on day. I'm guessing you played at WNEC, so you have an affinity for the team, that's ok. They are a good team. I'm just saying they aren't elite, or even as good (offensively or defensively) as the 2011 WNEC team that lost to Mass Maritime and then got killed by Salisbury 62-24. Westfield State is the 3rd or 4th best team in the MASCAC, and WNEC really struggled with them

That 2011 WNEC team was very opportunistic, I don't want to say lucky because that is taking to much away from them, but I believe that is the year they beat Endicott in a snowstorm up at their place with the Graham kid housing 2 kick returns for them. They also pulled off one of the better comebacks of the year against Framingham that year in the championship game coming back from down 14-0 with like 4 minutes left to win that game in OT to get to the playoffs. I agree with EastCoast, I like their QB they have now, but he is no Bryce Brown, that kid carried them, he wasn't a great thrower, but he could scramble with the best of them and made something out of nothing for them alot. I'm watching their game on the live cast against Union this weekend and I'm hoping to get a better feel for both programs this year, because I've only watched snippets of WNEC this year.

They got lucky that the Endicott game was played in a blizzard. I don't think that they  win that in normal conditions. The Maine Maritime loss came without Bryce Brown who was injured and the whole offense. If they had him in that game I think they run the table in the regular season. And Salisbury was #7 in the nation I believe going into the tournament. WNE was kind of supposed to get blown out there. And for the Brown vs Ward argument. Ward has better vision but he's not even close to the same athlete that Brown was. There's some plays where Ward is able to scramble and stay alive where Brown would've just tried to take off and gets tackled at the line. But I'd still take Brown over Ward for his overall play anyday.

Didn't Brown and that team put up like 70 something points on Maine Maritime in an ECAC bowl the year before??? I remember reading about them putting up video game numbers on them before, and I thought Brown won a golden helmet for it. So naturally I agree they would of beat them with him in there.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 15, 2014, 03:49:41 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 15, 2014, 03:36:52 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 15, 2014, 01:20:44 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 15, 2014, 12:21:33 PM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on October 15, 2014, 10:00:48 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 14, 2014, 06:37:26 PM
If Westfield was able to control them the full 60 minutes they wouldn't have gotten over 300 yards and  WNE wouldn't have walked right down the field the final 2 drives. They did a good job most of the game but wasn't able to close it out at the end.

For the Bryce Brown offense, Brown was the greatest QB in school history other than Walz. So its fair to say that this offense isn't as good as them. That said Ward is still a very good QB and he has Walz and Cook as seniors while Brown only had them as freshmen. Not to mention Ellis as a #2 is a pretty good weapon to have.


300 yards of offense is not a good day. 340 yards of offense means you struggled or had an off and on day. I'm guessing you played at WNEC, so you have an affinity for the team, that's ok. They are a good team. I'm just saying they aren't elite, or even as good (offensively or defensively) as the 2011 WNEC team that lost to Mass Maritime and then got killed by Salisbury 62-24. Westfield State is the 3rd or 4th best team in the MASCAC, and WNEC really struggled with them

That 2011 WNEC team was very opportunistic, I don't want to say lucky because that is taking to much away from them, but I believe that is the year they beat Endicott in a snowstorm up at their place with the Graham kid housing 2 kick returns for them. They also pulled off one of the better comebacks of the year against Framingham that year in the championship game coming back from down 14-0 with like 4 minutes left to win that game in OT to get to the playoffs. I agree with EastCoast, I like their QB they have now, but he is no Bryce Brown, that kid carried them, he wasn't a great thrower, but he could scramble with the best of them and made something out of nothing for them alot. I'm watching their game on the live cast against Union this weekend and I'm hoping to get a better feel for both programs this year, because I've only watched snippets of WNEC this year.

They got lucky that the Endicott game was played in a blizzard. I don't think that they  win that in normal conditions. The Maine Maritime loss came without Bryce Brown who was injured and the whole offense. If they had him in that game I think they run the table in the regular season. And Salisbury was #7 in the nation I believe going into the tournament. WNE was kind of supposed to get blown out there. And for the Brown vs Ward argument. Ward has better vision but he's not even close to the same athlete that Brown was. There's some plays where Ward is able to scramble and stay alive where Brown would've just tried to take off and gets tackled at the line. But I'd still take Brown over Ward for his overall play anyday.

Didn't Brown and that team put up like 70 something points on Maine Maritime in an ECAC bowl the year before??? I remember reading about them putting up video game numbers on them before, and I thought Brown won a golden helmet for it. So naturally I agree they would of beat them with him in there.

I don't remember the exact score. They put 66 points which was a school record at the time. I think it was 66-48 maybe, I don't know for sure though.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on October 15, 2014, 04:45:50 PM
Task at hand for WNEC is Union and then there can really be discussion about how good they are. Dlip really likes them and applauds their scheduling both Springfield and Union.

For us die hard Union faithful this weekend will be quite telling. No offense but the opponent to Dlip is completely irrelevant. To Dlip he is looking to see which Dutchmen team shows up. Is there heart left on this team after last weekends program abysmal loss?

Dlip for one is really looking forward to welcoming WNEC to Shocktown on Saturday and regardless of outcome Dlip will be pulling for WNEC to win the NEFC this season.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 15, 2014, 09:08:24 PM
Quote from: dlip on October 15, 2014, 04:45:50 PM
Task at hand for WNEC is Union and then there can really be discussion about how good they are. Dlip really likes them and applauds their scheduling both Springfield and Union.

For us die hard Union faithful this weekend will be quite telling. No offense but the opponent to Dlip is completely irrelevant. To Dlip he is looking to see which Dutchmen team shows up. Is there heart left on this team after last weekends program abysmal loss?

Dlip for one is really looking forward to welcoming WNEC to Shocktown on Saturday and regardless of outcome Dlip will be pulling for WNEC to win the NEFC this season.
I think there can be discussion as to how good WNEC actually is because they are an actual threat to make the playoffs compared to their opponent and unlike their opponent they have made the playoffs within the last 5 years, albeit from the NEFC. They have also beat Union and Springfield even in mediocre years, so for us the question naturally becomes is this team as good as their championship squad or are they a paper tiger who beat the worst Union team of all time (assuming they win), an overrated Springfield team who just got throttled by Hobart, a mediocre MASCAC team in Westfield St (Who were trailing 28-0 to Framingham late in the 4th before a garbage time TD), and a 2-4 Salve Regina team. 
Now if WNEC loses, I will be praying they lose every game from here on in because the NEFC would be taking a huge step back if their representative for the playoffs is a 9-1 team with their lone loss to a 2-8 LL team. Hell, a loss to Union and WNEC being an ECAC team would still be a blow to the league. The best result for the league if WNEC loses is for them to fall apart and be a middle of the pack team. Hell even with a win, they STILL might be just that. That is why I'm so curious to watch this game and stack them up against Framingham, Fitchburg, Bridgewater, and West Conn, because I've at least watched them play and just won't be making my assumptions based on comparative scores and stats.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on October 15, 2014, 11:06:28 PM
Absolutely! Dlip did not mean to disregard the discussion on WNEC even though his post looks that way. He was just kind of thinking out loud with a shred of sarcasm being thrown toward don't put the cart before the horse type thought :). **** that's why we have these boards to talk about our teams no matter how strong or poor. So Dlip apologizes for that, it is not what he meant :).

If WNEC loses to Union Dlip agrees it wouldn't be great for the NEFC however Union is a bit of an exception regarding their record. Meaning that they have played very close games against good competition (minus last week's complete breakdown and towel throw in) and do have a fair amount of talent on both sides of the football. Again, Dlip puts WNEC as a two TD favorite.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ECoastFootball on October 16, 2014, 07:52:59 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 15, 2014, 09:08:24 PM
Quote from: dlip on October 15, 2014, 04:45:50 PM
Task at hand for WNEC is Union and then there can really be discussion about how good they are. Dlip really likes them and applauds their scheduling both Springfield and Union.

For us die hard Union faithful this weekend will be quite telling. No offense but the opponent to Dlip is completely irrelevant. To Dlip he is looking to see which Dutchmen team shows up. Is there heart left on this team after last weekends program abysmal loss?

Dlip for one is really looking forward to welcoming WNEC to Shocktown on Saturday and regardless of outcome Dlip will be pulling for WNEC to win the NEFC this season.
I think there can be discussion as to how good WNEC actually is because they are an actual threat to make the playoffs compared to their opponent and unlike their opponent they have made the playoffs within the last 5 years, albeit from the NEFC. They have also beat Union and Springfield even in mediocre years, so for us the question naturally becomes is this team as good as their championship squad or are they a paper tiger who beat the worst Union team of all time (assuming they win), an overrated Springfield team who just got throttled by Hobart, a mediocre MASCAC team in Westfield St (Who were trailing 28-0 to Framingham late in the 4th before a garbage time TD), and a 2-4 Salve Regina team. 
Now if WNEC loses, I will be praying they lose every game from here on in because the NEFC would be taking a huge step back if their representative for the playoffs is a 9-1 team with their lone loss to a 2-8 LL team. Hell, a loss to Union and WNEC being an ECAC team would still be a blow to the league. The best result for the league if WNEC loses is for them to fall apart and be a middle of the pack team. Hell even with a win, they STILL might be just that. That is why I'm so curious to watch this game and stack them up against Framingham, Fitchburg, Bridgewater, and West Conn, because I've at least watched them play and just won't be making my assumptions based on comparative scores and stats.

I'll have my New England Rankings later today, but I would think they would stack up with the MASCAC teams something like:
Framingham
WNEC
West Conn
Fitchburg
Westfield
UMass Dartmouth
Bridgewater.

Better (but close to) West Conn and Fitch, but I think they would get smoked by Framingham.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on October 16, 2014, 11:43:38 AM
dlip would love to see Framingham play!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ECoastFootball on October 16, 2014, 11:50:29 AM
Quote from: dlip on October 16, 2014, 11:43:38 AM
dlip would love to see Framingham play!

http://mascac.tv/

Almost all the conference games are archived here. So you can watch most of their games from the season here.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on October 18, 2014, 11:59:57 AM
Dlip's write up for today's Union/WNEC game:

www.dlipthedutchman.blogspot.com
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 20, 2014, 06:19:32 PM
Could only look at the stats this week due to being on Saturday outings with the wife, was able to check scores. Great win by WNEC, it appeared that after the 1st quarter they were able to come to their senses and was able to get some turnovers and put together some lengthy drives (not long), but enough to know who the better team was and appeared to be a good team game. I know Union is not the team it may have been a couple weeks ago or of the past, but it is still a good win for the conference as a whole. MIT handled Nichols as expected, which sets up for great evening game against WNEC this upcoming weekend, not saying that this is the de facto championship, but more like the beginning of a round robin between MIT, WNEC, and Endicott. Hoping for a great game this upcoming weekend. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 21, 2014, 12:13:05 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on October 20, 2014, 06:19:32 PM
Could only look at the stats this week due to being on Saturday outings with the wife, was able to check scores. Great win by WNEC, it appeared that after the 1st quarter they were able to come to their senses and was able to get some turnovers and put together some lengthy drives (not long), but enough to know who the better team was and appeared to be a good team game. I know Union is not the team it may have been a couple weeks ago or of the past, but it is still a good win for the conference as a whole. MIT handled Nichols as expected, which sets up for great evening game against WNEC this upcoming weekend, not saying that this is the de facto championship, but more like the beginning of a round robin between MIT, WNEC, and Endicott. Hoping for a great game this upcoming weekend.

The next three weeks are going to be great. WNE-MIT. MIT-Endicott, then the potential NEFC championship game of Endicott-WNE on November 8th.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 21, 2014, 12:13:21 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on October 20, 2014, 06:19:32 PM
Could only look at the stats this week due to being on Saturday outings with the wife, was able to check scores. Great win by WNEC, it appeared that after the 1st quarter they were able to come to their senses and was able to get some turnovers and put together some lengthy drives (not long), but enough to know who the better team was and appeared to be a good team game. I know Union is not the team it may have been a couple weeks ago or of the past, but it is still a good win for the conference as a whole. MIT handled Nichols as expected, which sets up for great evening game against WNEC this upcoming weekend, not saying that this is the de facto championship, but more like the beginning of a round robin between MIT, WNEC, and Endicott. Hoping for a great game this upcoming weekend. 

Agreed one hundred percent. NEFC is going to be fun to follow the next couple weeks... the MASCAC... not so much.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 21, 2014, 12:44:12 PM
I'm trying to find the tiebreaker but not having any success. What's happens if MIT,Endicott and WNE all go 7-1 with the only loss being to each other?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ITH radio on October 21, 2014, 01:55:22 PM
I believe for NEFC (maybe changed since the MASCAC formed) was H2H, then crossover games.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ECoastFootball on October 21, 2014, 02:09:49 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on October 21, 2014, 01:55:22 PM
I believe for NEFC (maybe changed since the MASCAC formed) was H2H, then crossover games.

Cross over game was the division tie-breaker when there were 16 teams and 2 divisions, not sure what the tiebreaker is no that there is only one division. Maybe Overall record or Points For/Points Against?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 21, 2014, 02:45:35 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on October 21, 2014, 01:55:22 PM
I believe for NEFC (maybe changed since the MASCAC formed) was H2H, then crossover games.

the H2H is the obvious one, but with 3 teams all being tied, with loses only coming to each other, and no like non-conference opponents what's the option? Is it a margin of victory or do they just go to coinflips?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ECoastFootball on October 21, 2014, 09:07:29 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 21, 2014, 02:45:35 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on October 21, 2014, 01:55:22 PM
I believe for NEFC (maybe changed since the MASCAC formed) was H2H, then crossover games.

the H2H is the obvious one, but with 3 teams all being tied, with loses only coming to each other, and no like non-conference opponents what's the option? Is it a margin of victory or do they just go to coinflips?

Definitely not coin flip. Probably points for/points against.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ITH radio on October 22, 2014, 10:06:25 AM
I went ahead and emailed John Harper, the NEFC commish. Will report his response once I hear back.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ECoastFootball on October 22, 2014, 10:35:55 AM
Quote from: ITH radio on October 22, 2014, 10:06:25 AM
I went ahead and emailed John Harper, the NEFC commish. Will report his response once I hear back.

Awesome, Thank You. I would give you +K if I could.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 22, 2014, 11:11:14 AM
Quote from: ITH radio on October 22, 2014, 10:06:25 AM
I went ahead and emailed John Harper, the NEFC commish. Will report his response once I hear back.

Thanks. I could've sworn it used to be on their website but couldn't find it anywhere. The bylaws and constitution there only had information about dues and eligibility of players.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ITH radio on October 22, 2014, 01:30:39 PM
Courtesy of John Harper, NEFC commissioner:

In case of a tie, the following criteria, in priority order, will be used to break any and all ties.  In the case where more than two teams tie for the championship, the following procedures will be used until a team(s) is (are) eliminated at which point, the process will begin again involving the remaining teams.

1.   Head-to-head results

2.   Competition within the Conference in descending order

3.   Overall winning percentage of conference opponents

4.   Results against common opponents outside the conference (if applicable)

5.   Overall record

6.   Coin flip
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ECoastFootball on October 22, 2014, 01:32:55 PM
Thanks ITH

So what would happen if they all split, would be the winner of the MIT-WNEC game would go. Endicott would be eliminated for their losses to Framingham and Hobart, and then the MIT-WNEC loser would be eliminated for their H2H loss.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: continental on October 22, 2014, 01:36:43 PM
or would Endicott go because their conference opponents would have a better winning percentage?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ITH radio on October 22, 2014, 03:16:26 PM
I think in either case the H2H to start doesn't work b/c they each have losses to one another. Not sure I get what #2 or "competition w/i conf in descending order means". #3 overall win % of conf opponents could decide it but it would be really close. This measure seems like it would actually help Endicott b/c their .700 would sort of "ding" WNE and MIT while Endi would get their .900s. #4 would be N/A in this case. I think #5 could knock out Endicott b/c their overall in this scenario would be 7-3. If that was the case, then I suppose you'd take the H2H of MIT-WNE?

Or just say "**** it" and flip....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 22, 2014, 03:38:06 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on October 22, 2014, 03:16:26 PM
I think in either case the H2H to start doesn't work b/c they each have losses to one another. Not sure I get what #2 or "competition w/i conf in descending order means". #3 overall win % of conf opponents could decide it but it would be really close. This measure seems like it would actually help Endicott b/c their .700 would sort of "ding" WNE and MIT while Endi would get their .900s. #4 would be N/A in this case. I think #5 could knock out Endicott b/c their overall in this scenario would be 7-3. If that was the case, then I suppose you'd take the H2H of MIT-WNE?

Or just say "**** it" and flip....

The H2H is useless. The in-conference record is if They all had 2 loses, whoever beat the #4 team is then the conference winner. If they all beat #4 then it goes to who beat #5.

I don't see how Endicott can win the tiebreaker so it appears that either they sweep both teams or this weekend is the NEFC title game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ITH radio on October 22, 2014, 03:58:39 PM
Speaking of which...

http://d3football.com/columns/around-the-region/northeast/index
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: continental on October 22, 2014, 08:49:28 PM
Endicott would win the tiebreaker because MIT and WNE would each have Endicott's 7-3 record in addition to the other team's 9-1 record considered in their "conference opponent's winning percentage." Endicott would have MIT and WNE's 9-1 records considered in their's. The other five conference members would count the same for each of the three tied teams.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 22, 2014, 08:56:39 PM
Quote from: continental on October 22, 2014, 08:49:28 PM
Endicott would win the tiebreaker because MIT and WNE would each have Endicott's 7-3 record in addition to the other team's 9-1 record considered in their "conference opponent's winning percentage." Endicott would have MIT and WNE's 9-1 records considered in their's. The other five conference members would count the same for each of the three tied teams.

That can't be it. You're punishing MIT and WNE for winning?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on October 22, 2014, 09:14:17 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 22, 2014, 08:56:39 PM
Quote from: continental on October 22, 2014, 08:49:28 PM
Endicott would win the tiebreaker because MIT and WNE would each have Endicott's 7-3 record in addition to the other team's 9-1 record considered in their "conference opponent's winning percentage." Endicott would have MIT and WNE's 9-1 records considered in their's. The other five conference members would count the same for each of the three tied teams.

That can't be it. You're punishing MIT and WNE for winning?

I don't think you understood.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: continental on October 22, 2014, 09:26:21 PM
Not punishing MIT and WNE for winning, but rewarding Endicott for performing equally within the conference against teams that have better records...strange but true if that's really how the tiebreaker works.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 23, 2014, 12:03:10 AM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on October 22, 2014, 09:14:17 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 22, 2014, 08:56:39 PM
Quote from: continental on October 22, 2014, 08:49:28 PM
Endicott would win the tiebreaker because MIT and WNE would each have Endicott's 7-3 record in addition to the other team's 9-1 record considered in their "conference opponent's winning percentage." Endicott would have MIT and WNE's 9-1 records considered in their's. The other five conference members would count the same for each of the three tied teams.

That can't be it. You're punishing MIT and WNE for winning?



I don't think you understood.

I'm hoping I'm not.

So if MIT and WNEC go 9-1, and Endicott goes 7-3, Endicott gets the tiebreaker because MIT and WNEC has more wins? How does that make sense?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rlk on October 23, 2014, 01:38:34 PM
Quote from: continental on October 22, 2014, 09:26:21 PM
Not punishing MIT and WNE for winning, but rewarding Endicott for performing equally within the conference against teams that have better records...strange but true if that's really how the tiebreaker works.

I understand it -- I went to MIT after all :) -- but make sense it doesn't.  It would be directly rewarding Endicott for losing non-conference games (in the sense that had Endicott won out, all three would have had equal records (well, actually not, since MIT's playing only 9 games, but let's let that pass for now)).  Since winning the conference is a zero-sum game, rewarding one team for losing is equivalent to punishing the other team(s) involved for winning.

While I realize it's difficult to avoid corner cases in a sport like football where you can't just add a playoff game or two, this particular corner case is egregious.

Hopefully we'll beat both WNE and Endicott, then win out, and there won't be an issue ;D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on October 23, 2014, 04:37:43 PM
Quote from: rlk on October 23, 2014, 01:38:34 PM
Quote from: continental on October 22, 2014, 09:26:21 PM
Not punishing MIT and WNE for winning, but rewarding Endicott for performing equally within the conference against teams that have better records...strange but true if that's really how the tiebreaker works.

I understand it -- I went to MIT after all :) -- but make sense it doesn't.  It would be directly rewarding Endicott for losing non-conference games (in the sense that had Endicott won out, all three would have had equal records (well, actually not, since MIT's playing only 9 games, but let's let that pass for now)).  Since winning the conference is a zero-sum game, rewarding one team for losing is equivalent to punishing the other team(s) involved for winning.

While I realize it's difficult to avoid corner cases in a sport like football where you can't just add a playoff game or two, this particular corner case is egregious.

Hopefully we'll beat both WNE and Endicott, then win out, and there won't be an issue ;D

+k to the MIT grad busting out "egregious" in this post. Dlip would also like to see some equations and ****. Homeboy should head over to the NESCAC boards and show those high nosed mfers what the **** is up. Dlip likes!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 25, 2014, 06:01:29 PM
Anyone else not able to get the MIT feed to work?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 25, 2014, 08:16:34 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 25, 2014, 06:01:29 PM
Anyone else not able to get the MIT feed to work?

I couldn't either... but what a game it was.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rlk on October 25, 2014, 08:43:17 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 25, 2014, 08:16:34 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 25, 2014, 06:01:29 PM
Anyone else not able to get the MIT feed to work?

I couldn't either... but what a game it was.

Wild win, all right.  Coming down to a blocked extra point in the final minute.  A real gridiron classic.

MIT looked like we were going to run away with it, scoring two TD's early in the first quarter and tacking on another.  WNE got their game under control, though, and the first half ended wildly with two WNE TD's and an MIT one sandwiched in between.

Third quarter was all WNE; they scored twice on some big plays, then we scored again with about 4 minutes to go.    WNE put together a final drive, though, and scored with a minute to go, but then we blocked their extra point!  Unfortunately, none of us photographing the game got that shot.

WNE is clearlly far stronger than any of the other teams we've played this year.  Next week's the other big game, at Endicott.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 25, 2014, 08:51:20 PM
I'll post my thoughts when I'm not pissed at the ending and say something I shouldn't. That's gonna take a couple days.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 25, 2014, 09:08:28 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 25, 2014, 08:51:20 PM
I'll post my thoughts when I'm not pissed at the ending and say something I shouldn't. That's gonna take a couple days.

Not to rub it in, but weren't you one of those who mocked MIT being ranked in an early poll?  I know others were.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 25, 2014, 09:47:32 PM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on October 25, 2014, 09:08:28 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 25, 2014, 08:51:20 PM
I'll post my thoughts when I'm not pissed at the ending and say something I shouldn't. That's gonna take a couple days.

Not to rub it in, but weren't you one of those who mocked MIT being ranked in an early poll?  I know others were.
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I didnt mock them but I thought they were ranked a little high because their strength of schedule was weak. This was a great win for them and their first vs a team with a wiining record. After the way endicott looked today they(mit) are the favorite to win the nefc. Quite the awesome story with the turn around of that program.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 26, 2014, 02:53:25 AM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on October 25, 2014, 09:08:28 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 25, 2014, 08:51:20 PM
I'll post my thoughts when I'm not pissed at the ending and say something I shouldn't. That's gonna take a couple days.

Not to rub it in, but weren't you one of those who mocked MIT being ranked in an early poll?  I know others were.

Nah I didn't say anything bad about MIT. Only criticism is saying we don't know if they're real or if they just match up well against Salve. I never said anything about them in the poll though.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 26, 2014, 03:11:23 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 26, 2014, 02:53:25 AM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on October 25, 2014, 09:08:28 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 25, 2014, 08:51:20 PM
I'll post my thoughts when I'm not pissed at the ending and say something I shouldn't. That's gonna take a couple days.

Not to rub it in, but weren't you one of those who mocked MIT being ranked in an early poll?  I know others were.

Nah I didn't say anything bad about MIT. Only criticism is saying we don't know if they're real or if they just match up well against Salve. I never said anything about them in the poll though.

Yea I couldn't remember nor could I find it. Looks like they are semi-legit though.  Might only lose to UWW by 60?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MasterJedi on October 26, 2014, 12:24:13 PM
I'll be rooting for MIT against Endicott next weekend. Hard not to root for an underdog who hasn't had much success before.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 26, 2014, 02:24:04 PM
Frustrating loss. To comeback like that only to lose because of a extra point was a real kick in the nuts. Gotta root for Endicott now which I didn't think I'd ever say.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 26, 2014, 05:38:31 PM
It was really a toss up between WNEC and MIT, for the game to end on a missed PAT, only makes it that much interesting as MIT takes on Endicott this upcoming weekend. MIT has been playing really well and I expect a good game against Endicott. However, Endicott is battle tested, but they were very shaky against Coast Guard this past weekend. I think MIT can really run the table.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 26, 2014, 05:42:07 PM
If that game goes to OT I think WNE wins. They just had too much momentum. I'm hoping that WNE plays a full 60 minute game at some point. When they play like they did in the 3rd quarter last night they look unbeatable in this league. Unfortunately they appear to not be able to get to that level until after they got punched in the face.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 26, 2014, 05:46:22 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 26, 2014, 05:42:07 PM
If that game goes to OT I think WNE wins. They just had too much momentum. I'm hoping that WNE plays a full 60 minute game at some point. When they play like they did in the 3rd quarter last night they look unbeatable in this league. Unfortunately they appear to not be able to get to that level until after they got punched in the face.

Jackson, you are definitely right. If WNE plays the game like the 3rd quarter, they would have dominated the game, but as you aforementioned, there is 60 minutes in a game. It is almost similar to boxing, one individual (team) can appear to dominate the fight with knocking an opponent down a couple times for a couple rounds late, but in the first few rounds, doesn't get enough points. Like you, momentum was in favor and would have appeared to be in WNEC favor, but it turn out in their favor.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 26, 2014, 06:41:13 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on October 26, 2014, 05:46:22 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 26, 2014, 05:42:07 PM
If that game goes to OT I think WNE wins. They just had too much momentum. I'm hoping that WNE plays a full 60 minute game at some point. When they play like they did in the 3rd quarter last night they look unbeatable in this league. Unfortunately they appear to not be able to get to that level until after they got punched in the face.

Jackson, you are definitely right. If WNE plays the game like the 3rd quarter, they would have dominated the game, but as you aforementioned, there is 60 minutes in a game. It is almost similar to boxing, one individual (team) can appear to dominate the fight with knocking an opponent down a couple times for a couple rounds late, but in the first few rounds, doesn't get enough points. Like you, momentum was in favor and would have appeared to be in WNEC favor, but it turn out in their favor.

Yeah it is a 60 minute game. They've done it against Springfield in the 4th, and Union in the end of the 2nd and 3rd quarter. The closest they've gone to a full game of the intensity was the Maine game but that was aided by Maine just being garbage. Hopefully they do it against Endicott and don't wait until they spot the Gulls 3 touchdowns before going into that 5th gear.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rlk on October 26, 2014, 06:44:49 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on October 26, 2014, 05:46:22 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 26, 2014, 05:42:07 PM
If that game goes to OT I think WNE wins. They just had too much momentum. I'm hoping that WNE plays a full 60 minute game at some point. When they play like they did in the 3rd quarter last night they look unbeatable in this league. Unfortunately they appear to not be able to get to that level until after they got punched in the face.

Jackson, you are definitely right. If WNE plays the game like the 3rd quarter, they would have dominated the game, but as you aforementioned, there is 60 minutes in a game. It is almost similar to boxing, one individual (team) can appear to dominate the fight with knocking an opponent down a couple times for a couple rounds late, but in the first few rounds, doesn't get enough points. Like you, momentum was in favor and would have appeared to be in WNEC favor, but it turn out in their favor.

The same thing could have been said about MIT and the first quarter or so.  Ultimately, it comes down to the score on any given Saturday.  In any event, both teams are very good.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ITH radio on October 27, 2014, 10:18:14 AM
Congrats to Coach Chad on a big win. Nice to see a former teammate, alum and LL coaching alum doing well.

That game vs. Endicott should be a great one.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rlk on October 27, 2014, 09:35:25 PM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on October 26, 2014, 03:11:23 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 26, 2014, 02:53:25 AM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on October 25, 2014, 09:08:28 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 25, 2014, 08:51:20 PM
I'll post my thoughts when I'm not pissed at the ending and say something I shouldn't. That's gonna take a couple days.

Not to rub it in, but weren't you one of those who mocked MIT being ranked in an early poll?  I know others were.

Nah I didn't say anything bad about MIT. Only criticism is saying we don't know if they're real or if they just match up well against Salve. I never said anything about them in the poll though.

Yea I couldn't remember nor could I find it. Looks like they are semi-legit though.  Might only lose to UWW by 60?

UWW's just a steamroller everywhere.  A couple of years ago they beat us in the (men's basketball) semis down in Salem by 15 points.  The following fall we played Harvard preseason (preseason for us, regular season for Harvard).  Harvard was a pretty good D1 team on the way up, and we were missing a couple of our key starters due to injury (they never made it back...very upsetting, we'd have had a real shot at the title)...and they beat us by 15.  Not garbage time 15 either -- nobody's starters and top subs came out until a few minutes left.  I thought UWW was better than Harvard.

Back to football...here's the play: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKfHq5QqLQw&feature=youtu.be&list=UUBgTXPlznzOjVrvqIDJdXzw
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: GoTech73 on November 01, 2014, 08:33:47 PM
MIT with the win over Endicott tonight in a terrific game!  MIT got off to a hot start again, but Frenette figured things out in the second half and went up 29-28 early in the 4th before MIT reestablished their running game, responded with a score followed by a pick and then a dominant run attack to run out the final 4 minutes.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 01, 2014, 09:24:13 PM
Did Dlip read this correctly????????? Did WNE lose to ****ing Curry 6-0??????????????????? What the **** is happening in this world?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ITH radio on November 01, 2014, 09:53:58 PM
Yep. 7-0 in OT of all things. Crazy wkd, including Linfield being upset.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rlk on November 01, 2014, 10:20:21 PM
Quote from: GoTech73 on November 01, 2014, 08:33:47 PM
MIT with the win over Endicott tonight in a terrific game!  MIT got off to a hot start again, but Frenette figured things out in the second half and went up 29-28 early in the 4th before MIT reestablished their running game, responded with a score followed by a pick and then a dominant run attack to run out the final 4 minutes.

Sounds like an amazing game.  Hopefully we solve our problem of letting opponents back in that has been happening lately.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on November 02, 2014, 01:29:50 AM
Quote from: dlip on November 01, 2014, 09:24:13 PM
Did Dlip read this correctly????????? Did WNE lose to ****ing Curry 6-0??????????????????? What the **** is happening in this world?

QB was out with an injury, combined with absolute mess of cold, wind and rain made passing the ball impossible for both teams. Really no excuse for not being able to just run the ball down their throats though. Extremely confused and disappointed by the result also.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on November 02, 2014, 11:52:48 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 02, 2014, 01:29:50 AM
Quote from: dlip on November 01, 2014, 09:24:13 PM
Did Dlip read this correctly????????? Did WNE lose to ****ing Curry 6-0??????????????????? What the **** is happening in this world?

QB was out with an injury, combined with absolute mess of cold, wind and rain made passing the ball impossible for both teams. Really no excuse for not being able to just run the ball down their throats though. Extremely confused and disappointed by the result also.

I agree with you Jackson, there were outside factors, but I still expected WNEC to still be able to just beat Curry. This is really one of the big shockers in the East IMHO. Now, this is just going to fuel WNEC in their game against Endicott.

In other news, MIT starts off great and survives against Endicott. MIT was able to stay balance and control the 1st half and survived the big second half by Endicott. Although weather was not pretty, MIT being balance was key in the victory and Endicott inability to establish the run. I think based on the current restriction of 500 miles that MIT will be having a home game against Husson unless they lose to Mount Ida at the end of the year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on November 02, 2014, 01:40:25 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on November 02, 2014, 11:52:48 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 02, 2014, 01:29:50 AM
Quote from: dlip on November 01, 2014, 09:24:13 PM
Did Dlip read this correctly????????? Did WNE lose to ****ing Curry 6-0??????????????????? What the **** is happening in this world?

QB was out with an injury, combined with absolute mess of cold, wind and rain made passing the ball impossible for both teams. Really no excuse for not being able to just run the ball down their throats though. Extremely confused and disappointed by the result also.

I agree with you Jackson, there were outside factors, but I still expected WNEC to still be able to just beat Curry. This is really one of the big shockers in the East IMHO. Now, this is just going to fuel WNEC in their game against Endicott.

In other news, MIT starts off great and survives against Endicott. MIT was able to stay balance and control the 1st half and survived the big second half by Endicott. Although weather was not pretty, MIT being balance was key in the victory and Endicott inability to establish the run. I think based on the current restriction of 500 miles that MIT will be having a home game against Husson unless they lose to Mount Ida at the end of the year.

In the tournament? MIT will be on the road, likely against Hobart or an E8 team. Yeah WNE and Endicott are good New England teams, only beating them by a combined 6 points and no major non-conference wins isn't going to impress anyone enough to get them a home game. They'd need to go undefeated against Endicott's schedule to get a home game. And even then it wouldn't be against the ECFC winner.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 02, 2014, 03:25:35 PM
Jackson5 -- based on the way the tournament is set up for travel purposes there are a limited number of playoff teams to which Husson could travel. Just have to keep that in mind.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on November 02, 2014, 03:46:03 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 02, 2014, 03:25:35 PM
Jackson5 -- based on the way the tournament is set up for travel purposes there are a limited number of playoff teams to which Husson could travel. Just have to keep that in mind.

Yes but you have, Montclair State, Morrisville State, Framingham State,  and St Lawrence all within 500 miles that they could send to that would get the nod over MIT for a home game. Not to mention they might just waste a flight on them and send them out to Mary Hardin Baylor or another west/southwest school to avoid forcing two of the few good east teams face off in the first round just so that the NEFC and ECFC champions can face each other.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ECoastFootball on November 03, 2014, 10:50:29 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 02, 2014, 03:46:03 PM
Yes but you have, Montclair State, Morrisville State, Framingham State,  and St Lawrence all within 500 miles that they could send to that would get the nod over MIT for a home game. Not to mention they might just waste a flight on them and send them out to Mary Hardin Baylor or another west/southwest school to avoid forcing two of the few good east teams face off in the first round just so that the NEFC and ECFC champions can face each other.

If Framingham gets in. I'm hoping they do, but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 03, 2014, 09:31:37 PM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on November 03, 2014, 10:50:29 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 02, 2014, 03:46:03 PM
Yes but you have, Montclair State, Morrisville State, Framingham State,  and St Lawrence all within 500 miles that they could send to that would get the nod over MIT for a home game. Not to mention they might just waste a flight on them and send them out to Mary Hardin Baylor or another west/southwest school to avoid forcing two of the few good east teams face off in the first round just so that the NEFC and ECFC champions can face each other.

If Framingham gets in. I'm hoping they do, but I'm not sure.

I have a hard time seeing them get in as of right now... That Endicott loss really takes the steam out of them because it was their best chance at getting a RR win. WNEC losing also hurts MIT because it probably knocks WNEC out of the top ten in the regional rankings as well. The loss to Curry is inexcusable... we have seen other east teams lose their QB'S for a game and win games in bad conditions against bad teams. Framingham comes to mind just a couple years ago with Silva being banged up and Bridgewater a little ways back with McCarthy. Recently you have Nicols playing well for West Conn. For what its worth I don't want MIT or Framingham if it wins out playing Husson in the first round. What does that really say for New England football if they beat those guys??? Framingham has gone toe to toe with some good teams and I want to see them take on a big dog. Framingham's success will only make the rest of New England better, and hopefully makes the bears better in the future as well. I really like what the MASCAC did with their OOC scheduling this year and hope Fitch. jumps on board. Hell the NEFC did a good job scheduling teams as well. I would love to see MIT make some noise in the NCAA but I don't feel like they have put together one full game together yet this year to merit some attention. I also feel like their defense can be exploited especially by second half adjustments, judging by the 2nd half results against some better competition.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on November 04, 2014, 05:37:57 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 03, 2014, 09:31:37 PM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on November 03, 2014, 10:50:29 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 02, 2014, 03:46:03 PM
Yes but you have, Montclair State, Morrisville State, Framingham State,  and St Lawrence all within 500 miles that they could send to that would get the nod over MIT for a home game. Not to mention they might just waste a flight on them and send them out to Mary Hardin Baylor or another west/southwest school to avoid forcing two of the few good east teams face off in the first round just so that the NEFC and ECFC champions can face each other.

If Framingham gets in. I'm hoping they do, but I'm not sure.

I have a hard time seeing them get in as of right now... That Endicott loss really takes the steam out of them because it was their best chance at getting a RR win. WNEC losing also hurts MIT because it probably knocks WNEC out of the top ten in the regional rankings as well. The loss to Curry is inexcusable... we have seen other east teams lose their QB'S for a game and win games in bad conditions against bad teams. Framingham comes to mind just a couple years ago with Silva being banged up and Bridgewater a little ways back with McCarthy. Recently you have Nicols playing well for West Conn. For what its worth I don't want MIT or Framingham if it wins out playing Husson in the first round. What does that really say for New England football if they beat those guys??? Framingham has gone toe to toe with some good teams and I want to see them take on a big dog. Framingham's success will only make the rest of New England better, and hopefully makes the bears better in the future as well. I really like what the MASCAC did with their OOC scheduling this year and hope Fitch. jumps on board. Hell the NEFC did a good job scheduling teams as well. I would love to see MIT make some noise in the NCAA but I don't feel like they have put together one full game together yet this year to merit some attention. I also feel like their defense can be exploited especially by second half adjustments, judging by the 2nd half results against some better competition.

When it comes to playoffs, those key adjustments and the depth of the roster definitely come into play. Nevertheless, I think it always comes down to line play.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on November 04, 2014, 04:54:59 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 02, 2014, 03:46:03 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 02, 2014, 03:25:35 PM
Jackson5 -- based on the way the tournament is set up for travel purposes there are a limited number of playoff teams to which Husson could travel. Just have to keep that in mind.

Yes but you have, Montclair State, Morrisville State, Framingham State,  and St Lawrence all within 500 miles that they could send to that would get the nod over MIT for a home game. Not to mention they might just waste a flight on them and send them out to Mary Hardin Baylor or another west/southwest school to avoid forcing two of the few good east teams face off in the first round just so that the NEFC and ECFC champions can face each other.

Of the four teams you listed...

1. Montclair or Morrisville will get in, but not both.  Plus, I'm not sure Morrisville State is actually within 500 miles of Husson (Google Maps has 502 miles).

2. Framingham State is not a playoff lock, but even if they do get in, why would they be a lock for a home game over MIT?  The MASCAC is slightly better than the NEFC, but it's not a huge difference.  Their only common opponent actually favors MIT (Framingham beat Endicott by 3 points at home; MIT beat Endicott by 5 on the road).  Framingham played the best team on either's schedule, Rowan, but they lost the game, so you can't point to a signature win for Framingham (Rowan isn't going to be regionally ranked, either).  I don't see a case based on the playoff criteria that would favor Framingham hosting instead of MIT.  "I think Team X is better than Team Y because I said so" isn't a criteria, jackson.

3. St. Lawrence would have to beat Hobart...and even if they do, what's the guarantee that SLU would get the home game over MIT?  SLU lost at home to an ECFC team.

There are other dominoes yet to fall here, but it's not as simple as "Montclair is better and they're within 500 miles of Husson, so Husson should just get sent there and MIT should go to..."
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rlk on November 08, 2014, 11:40:31 PM
MIT gets a shout out from ESPN (and also on the ticker during one of the big D1 games).  https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/531240013871452161

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 09, 2014, 02:01:58 PM
Congrats to MIT on the NEFC championship. After this week who knows where they will end up in the RR, It will be interesting to see if Ithaca jumps them in the rankings and moves up over them.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: wcrosby on November 10, 2014, 10:14:56 PM
Ithaca jumped in the d3football rankings.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: wcrosby on November 10, 2014, 10:16:09 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 09, 2014, 02:01:58 PM
Congrats to MIT on the NEFC championship. After this week who knows where they will end up in the RR, It will be interesting to see if Ithaca jumps them in the rankings and moves up over them.

Thanks.  I was one of the founders of the MIT program.  I've had the chance to see most of the games for the last two years, and they are definitely a quality team. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on November 12, 2014, 08:40:59 PM
Last Updated - November 12, 2014

Regional Rankings

EAST         
1 Delaware Valley 9-0 9-0     
2 Hobart 9-0 9-0     
3 Widener 9-0 9-0     
4 Framingham State 8-1 8-1     
5 Ithaca 7-2 7-2     
6 St. John Fisher 6-2 7-2     
7 MIT 8-0 8-0     
8 St. Lawrence 7-2 7-2     
9 Rowan 6-3 6-3     
10 Husson 6-1 7-1
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 12, 2014, 08:48:25 PM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on November 12, 2014, 08:40:59 PM
Last Updated - November 12, 2014

Regional Rankings

EAST         
1 Delaware Valley 9-0 9-0     
2 Hobart 9-0 9-0     
3 Widener 9-0 9-0     
4 Framingham State 8-1 8-1     
5 Ithaca 7-2 7-2     
6 St. John Fisher 6-2 7-2     
7 MIT 8-0 8-0     
8 St. Lawrence 7-2 7-2     
9 Rowan 6-3 6-3     
10 Husson 6-1 7-1


No favors for MIT here... with Framingham gaining position it looks like they would get Husson instead of MIT like some people are talking about if they get that Pool B/C team.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bartman on November 14, 2014, 08:45:52 PM
Good luck to MIT .... grab that undefeated season.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rlk on November 15, 2014, 10:17:11 PM
Quote from: Bartman on November 14, 2014, 08:45:52 PM
Good luck to MIT .... grab that undefeated season.

Thanks!  The guys did it, 24-13.  The first half was all ours, a field goal in the first quarter, a couple of really nice 95 yard drives, and a pick 6 late in the second quarter.  But Coast Guard is nothing if not resiliant, and got their offense untracked in the second half and as advertised their defense hung tough.  We intercepted a desperation third down pass with about a minute left, and the place erupted.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: wcrosby on November 16, 2014, 11:42:52 AM
As one of the founders of the original MIT Club Football Team in 1978 -- last night was a huge point of pride in our great players.  This kind of season doesn't come around that often.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 16, 2014, 06:20:34 PM
First trip the playoffs, get to host a playoff game, and do it against a very beatable opponent. It doesn't get much better than that.

Unless your the ECFC and Husson who also has the best chance at a playoff win for their conference as well.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 16, 2014, 07:01:59 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 16, 2014, 06:20:34 PM
First trip the playoffs, get to host a playoff game, and do it against a very beatable opponent. It doesn't get much better than that.

Unless your the ECFC and Husson who also has the best chance at a playoff win for their conference as well.

I lied... they are going to Maine.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: wcrosby on November 16, 2014, 09:17:22 PM
Nice screwing by the NCAA.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 16, 2014, 09:27:31 PM
Who knows why. But "screwing" isn't the word I would use. You get Husson in the first round. That seems pretty good to me, whether you go there or not.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 17, 2014, 02:02:18 AM
Quote from: wcrosby on November 16, 2014, 09:17:22 PM
Nice screwing by the NCAA.

The NCAA doesn't do that without cause, wcrosby. I know this is your first football playoff but try to come in with better assumptions.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on November 17, 2014, 02:16:46 AM
There's no football reason for MIT to go to Husson. They are a better team with a better resume and should be hosting. I know this is preaching to the chrior but being sent to Maine for that game is a screw job by the NCAA.  Although getting matched up with Husson is a gift to begin with. So I guess its a wash?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 17, 2014, 09:22:51 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 17, 2014, 02:16:46 AM
There's no football reason for MIT to go to Husson. They are a better team with a better resume and should be hosting. I know this is preaching to the chrior but being sent to Maine for that game is a screw job by the NCAA.  Although getting matched up with Husson is a gift to begin with. So I guess its a wash?

Can MIT even host?  They have a facility that may not be suitable for NCAA playoff purposes.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ECoastFootball on November 17, 2014, 09:25:53 AM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on November 17, 2014, 09:22:51 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 17, 2014, 02:16:46 AM
There's no football reason for MIT to go to Husson. They are a better team with a better resume and should be hosting. I know this is preaching to the chrior but being sent to Maine for that game is a screw job by the NCAA.  Although getting matched up with Husson is a gift to begin with. So I guess its a wash?

Can MIT even host?  They have a facility that may not be suitable for NCAA playoff purposes.

Having been to MIT, my guess would be that no, they cannot. When they played big games this year, most of the fans watched from the adjacent parking garage. There is not a D1, D2 or D3 high school team in Massachusetts that has a smaller set of stands than MIT does. If they are good again, hopefully they can get the ok to play at Cambridge HS or something, but I doubt they'd be in position to host if they made it back.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 17, 2014, 09:26:46 AM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on November 17, 2014, 09:25:53 AM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on November 17, 2014, 09:22:51 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 17, 2014, 02:16:46 AM
There's no football reason for MIT to go to Husson. They are a better team with a better resume and should be hosting. I know this is preaching to the chrior but being sent to Maine for that game is a screw job by the NCAA.  Although getting matched up with Husson is a gift to begin with. So I guess its a wash?

Can MIT even host?  They have a facility that may not be suitable for NCAA playoff purposes.

Having been to MIT, my guess would be that no, they cannot. When they played big games this year, most of the fans watched from the adjacent parking garage. There is not a D1, D2 or D3 high school team in Massachusetts that has a smaller set of stands than MIT does. If they are good again, hopefully they can get the ok to play at Cambridge HS or something, but I doubt they'd be in position to host if they made it back.

Yea and the press box fits like 4 people max?  That's the way I remember it anyway.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ECoastFootball on November 17, 2014, 09:35:03 AM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on November 17, 2014, 09:26:46 AM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on November 17, 2014, 09:25:53 AM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on November 17, 2014, 09:22:51 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 17, 2014, 02:16:46 AM
There's no football reason for MIT to go to Husson. They are a better team with a better resume and should be hosting. I know this is preaching to the chrior but being sent to Maine for that game is a screw job by the NCAA.  Although getting matched up with Husson is a gift to begin with. So I guess its a wash?

Can MIT even host?  They have a facility that may not be suitable for NCAA playoff purposes.

Having been to MIT, my guess would be that no, they cannot. When they played big games this year, most of the fans watched from the adjacent parking garage. There is not a D1, D2 or D3 high school team in Massachusetts that has a smaller set of stands than MIT does. If they are good again, hopefully they can get the ok to play at Cambridge HS or something, but I doubt they'd be in position to host if they made it back.

Yea and the press box fits like 4 people max?  That's the way I remember it anyway.

Yep. It is VERY small. Thanks for bringing that up. I thought it was weird and made no sense that they had to go up to Maine, but it definitely makes sense that they can not host.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 17, 2014, 10:08:52 AM
Everybody is up in arms over this whole thing and it's really because they don't put seeds next to the teams anymore.  My guess based on pure data is that Husson is not the higher seed but MIT couldn't host which Utah mentioned a few weeks ago.  RPI hosted Curry a few years ago as the lower seed because Curry could not host at their facility.  It's not the first time this needed to be done.  No one had a 'screw job'.  Anyone who has been around this for more than 15 minutes has seen this happen before.

I think more than who is hosting, people outside of MIT and Husson fans should be pissed because both of these teams should have been fed to the wolves but instead, one of them(MIT my guess) will get a postseason victory with the equivalent of playing a team like Rochester in the playoffs.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: wcrosby on November 17, 2014, 10:12:52 AM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on November 17, 2014, 09:25:53 AM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on November 17, 2014, 09:22:51 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 17, 2014, 02:16:46 AM
There's no football reason for MIT to go to Husson. They are a better team with a better resume and should be hosting. I know this is preaching to the chrior but being sent to Maine for that game is a screw job by the NCAA.  Although getting matched up with Husson is a gift to begin with. So I guess its a wash?

Can MIT even host?  They have a facility that may not be suitable for NCAA playoff purposes.

Having been to MIT, my guess would be that no, they cannot. When they played big games this year, most of the fans watched from the adjacent parking garage. There is not a D1, D2 or D3 high school team in Massachusetts that has a smaller set of stands than MIT does. If they are good again, hopefully they can get the ok to play at Cambridge HS or something, but I doubt they'd be in position to host if they made it back.

Guys -- the people that watch from the garage doe it because they don't have to pay, they can tailgate, and can drink up there -- There are usually more away fans up there than home fans.  The stands are more than comfortable, and yes, the press box is small, but there is nothing wrong with the top-notch facilities and training rooms.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on November 17, 2014, 10:20:12 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 17, 2014, 10:08:52 AM
Anyone who has been around this for more than 15 minutes has seen this happen before.

I agree, the problem is that every year we have a new batch of D3 fans who haven't been around this for more than 15 minutes.

Also, I find the above comment kind of funny in light of your next comment....

Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 17, 2014, 10:08:52 AM
I think more than who is hosting, people outside of MIT and Husson fans should be pissed because both of these teams should have been fed to the wolves but instead, one of them (MIT my guess) will get a postseason victory with the equivalent of playing a team like Rochester in the playoffs.

Because anyone who has been around for more than 15 minutes also knows that every year, there's an unusual set of pairings where either a) two really good teams meet way too early or b) two marginal teams play each other in the first round for convenience of local matchups and/or avoiding flights in the first round.  I'm pretty sure that MIT is literally the only opponent in the field within 500 miles of Husson.  Sure, you can be pissed about it if you want, but this isn't a new phenomenon.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ITH radio on November 17, 2014, 10:22:13 AM
We confirmed with Duey Naatz that MIT didn't file to host, hence they are on the road and they matched up these teams b/c of geo proximity.

www.blogtalkradio.com/ith/2014/11/17/in-the-huddlle--liberty-league-football-talk-show

FF to 30 mins and you'll hear this ? answered
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 17, 2014, 10:25:08 AM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 17, 2014, 10:20:12 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 17, 2014, 10:08:52 AM
Anyone who has been around this for more than 15 minutes has seen this happen before.

I agree, the problem is that every year we have a new batch of D3 fans who haven't been around this for more than 15 minutes.

Also, I find the above comment kind of funny in light of your next comment....

Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 17, 2014, 10:08:52 AM
I think more than who is hosting, people outside of MIT and Husson fans should be pissed because both of these teams should have been fed to the wolves but instead, one of them (MIT my guess) will get a postseason victory with the equivalent of playing a team like Rochester in the playoffs.

Because anyone who has been around for more than 15 minutes also knows that every year, there's an unusual set of pairings where either a) two really good teams meet way too early or b) two marginal teams play each other in the first round for convenience of local matchups and/or avoiding flights in the first round.  I'm pretty sure that MIT is literally the only opponent in the field within 500 miles of Husson.  Sure, you can be pissed about it if you want, but this isn't a new phenomenon.

We all know WHY this was done, but they literally could have sent Husson to Whitewater or anywhere and sucked up the cost.  MIT wasn't the problem.  Someone always has to fly, might as well send the team which is very likely the 32nd ranked team in the field from up in Nova Scotia.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ECoastFootball on November 17, 2014, 10:29:19 AM
Quote from: wcrosby on November 17, 2014, 10:12:52 AM
Guys -- the people that watch from the garage doe it because they don't have to pay, they can tailgate, and can drink up there -- There are usually more away fans up there than home fans.  The stands are more than comfortable, and yes, the press box is small, but there is nothing wrong with the top-notch facilities and training rooms.

I didn't mean what I wrote as a slight to the program, I was just saying that the stands and box are extremely small, and my guess would be that they can not host because of that. The field they have is pretty new turf, and I'm sure the other facilities they have are very nice, but that's not what we were discussing.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on November 17, 2014, 10:33:44 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 17, 2014, 10:25:08 AM
We all know WHY this was done, but they literally could have sent Husson to Whitewater or anywhere and sucked up the cost.  MIT wasn't the problem.  Someone always has to fly, might as well send the team which is very likely the 32nd ranked team in the field from up in Nova Scotia.

Yeah, but look at the playoff bracket.  Where are you sending them without creating an extra flight in the first two rounds beyond what's already required? 

The only first-round flight is Chapman @ Linfield (I think). 

Without Google-mapping every possible matchup, I think that the only guaranteed second-round flight is that Linfield-Chapman winner flying to UMHB. 

Sending Husson to UWW, or UMHB, or anywhere else, doesn't allow you to eliminate either of those.  It creates a third required flight.

I'd see your point if you could fly Husson somewhere instead of flying someone else.  But you can't.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 17, 2014, 10:41:07 AM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on November 17, 2014, 10:29:19 AM
Quote from: wcrosby on November 17, 2014, 10:12:52 AM
Guys -- the people that watch from the garage doe it because they don't have to pay, they can tailgate, and can drink up there -- There are usually more away fans up there than home fans.  The stands are more than comfortable, and yes, the press box is small, but there is nothing wrong with the top-notch facilities and training rooms.

I didn't mean what I wrote as a slight to the program, I was just saying that the stands and box are extremely small, and my guess would be that they can not host because of that. The field they have is pretty new turf, and I'm sure the other facilities they have are very nice, but that's not what we were discussing.

The parking lot or whatever it is you're referencing at MIT COULD be the problem.  At RPI many years ago, we had to host up on the other turf field because there was a section where fans could watch without paying on our regular field.  This is a huge no-no for tournament games.  They want everyone to pay.  It's usually press boxes and tickets that are the killers.  RPI ended up figuring out a way to close that in later on so you could watch from there but could only access it with a ticket(prior to moving to the ECAV).  With MIT's first postseason visit, my guess is they haven't really worried about it yet. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on November 17, 2014, 11:02:12 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 17, 2014, 10:41:07 AM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on November 17, 2014, 10:29:19 AM
Quote from: wcrosby on November 17, 2014, 10:12:52 AM
Guys -- the people that watch from the garage doe it because they don't have to pay, they can tailgate, and can drink up there -- There are usually more away fans up there than home fans.  The stands are more than comfortable, and yes, the press box is small, but there is nothing wrong with the top-notch facilities and training rooms.

I didn't mean what I wrote as a slight to the program, I was just saying that the stands and box are extremely small, and my guess would be that they can not host because of that. The field they have is pretty new turf, and I'm sure the other facilities they have are very nice, but that's not what we were discussing.

The parking lot or whatever it is you're referencing at MIT COULD be the problem.  At RPI many years ago, we had to host up on the other turf field because there was a section where fans could watch without paying on our regular field.  This is a huge no-no for tournament games.  They want everyone to pay.  It's usually press boxes and tickets that are the killers.  RPI ended up figuring out a way to close that in later on so you could watch from there but could only access it with a ticket(prior to moving to the ECAV).  With MIT's first postseason visit, my guess is they haven't really worried about it yet.

I can understand people watching from somewhere other than the stands if they want to imbibe in alcohol but please don't tell me that saving the cost of a ticket is a big deal to 99.9999% of these people. People waste the cost of a ticket to a DIII game on Starjunks coffee or a number of other waste's of money. I can't buy that there are too many people who scheme to escape the $5.00 - $8.00 cost of a ticket. That is cheap with a capital 'C'!!!!!!!

It's also a shame that MIT has no endowment to be able to throw a few sheckles at stands/press box. Poor, poor school ;)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 17, 2014, 11:07:51 AM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on November 17, 2014, 11:02:12 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 17, 2014, 10:41:07 AM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on November 17, 2014, 10:29:19 AM
Quote from: wcrosby on November 17, 2014, 10:12:52 AM
Guys -- the people that watch from the garage doe it because they don't have to pay, they can tailgate, and can drink up there -- There are usually more away fans up there than home fans.  The stands are more than comfortable, and yes, the press box is small, but there is nothing wrong with the top-notch facilities and training rooms.

I didn't mean what I wrote as a slight to the program, I was just saying that the stands and box are extremely small, and my guess would be that they can not host because of that. The field they have is pretty new turf, and I'm sure the other facilities they have are very nice, but that's not what we were discussing.

The parking lot or whatever it is you're referencing at MIT COULD be the problem.  At RPI many years ago, we had to host up on the other turf field because there was a section where fans could watch without paying on our regular field.  This is a huge no-no for tournament games.  They want everyone to pay.  It's usually press boxes and tickets that are the killers.  RPI ended up figuring out a way to close that in later on so you could watch from there but could only access it with a ticket(prior to moving to the ECAV).  With MIT's first postseason visit, my guess is they haven't really worried about it yet.

I can understand people watching from somewhere other than the stands if they want to imbibe in alcohol but please don't tell me that saving the cost of a ticket is a big deal to 99.9999% of these people. People waste the cost of a ticket to a DIII game on Starjunks coffee or a number of other waste's of money. I can't buy that there are too many people who scheme to escape the $5.00 - $8.00 cost of a ticket. That is cheap with a capital 'C'!!!!!!!

It's also a shame that MIT has no endowment to be able to throw a few sheckles at stands/press box. Poor, poor school ;)

I don't disagree with you.  It's not the cost, it's just the ability to have that access.  The NCAA needs their money so they can spend it on covering up Jameis Winston's weekend autograph sales.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rlk on November 17, 2014, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on November 17, 2014, 09:25:53 AM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on November 17, 2014, 09:22:51 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 17, 2014, 02:16:46 AM
There's no football reason for MIT to go to Husson. They are a better team with a better resume and should be hosting. I know this is preaching to the chrior but being sent to Maine for that game is a screw job by the NCAA.  Although getting matched up with Husson is a gift to begin with. So I guess its a wash?

Can MIT even host?  They have a facility that may not be suitable for NCAA playoff purposes.

Having been to MIT, my guess would be that no, they cannot. When they played big games this year, most of the fans watched from the adjacent parking garage. There is not a D1, D2 or D3 high school team in Massachusetts that has a smaller set of stands than MIT does. If they are good again, hopefully they can get the ok to play at Cambridge HS or something, but I doubt they'd be in position to host if they made it back.

That's quite an exaggeration.  The garage in question really isn't that big, and the tailgate area doesn't have room for more than maybe 200 people to watch at any one time.  Here's a shot showing both (part of) the stands and the tailgate area from the WNE game: http://rlk.smugmug.com/Sports/MITWNE-crowd-shots/n-HF9fC/i-NvGpbBH

Perhaps the NCAA has different rules about hosting facilities for football and soccer, but the facility was good enough for women's soccer this weekend.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 17, 2014, 11:47:52 AM
Quote from: rlk on November 17, 2014, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on November 17, 2014, 09:25:53 AM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on November 17, 2014, 09:22:51 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 17, 2014, 02:16:46 AM
There's no football reason for MIT to go to Husson. They are a better team with a better resume and should be hosting. I know this is preaching to the chrior but being sent to Maine for that game is a screw job by the NCAA.  Although getting matched up with Husson is a gift to begin with. So I guess its a wash?

Can MIT even host?  They have a facility that may not be suitable for NCAA playoff purposes.

Having been to MIT, my guess would be that no, they cannot. When they played big games this year, most of the fans watched from the adjacent parking garage. There is not a D1, D2 or D3 high school team in Massachusetts that has a smaller set of stands than MIT does. If they are good again, hopefully they can get the ok to play at Cambridge HS or something, but I doubt they'd be in position to host if they made it back.

That's quite an exaggeration.  The garage in question really isn't that big, and the tailgate area doesn't have room for more than maybe 200 people to watch at any one time.  Here's a shot showing both (part of) the stands and the tailgate area from the WNE game: http://rlk.smugmug.com/Sports/MITWNE-crowd-shots/n-HF9fC/i-NvGpbBH

Perhaps the NCAA has different rules about hosting facilities for football and soccer, but the facility was good enough for women's soccer this weekend.

This has happened before (teams not being able to host), and I believe the reason usually is because the press box needs to hold x amount of people (official scorers, referees, clock operators, SIDS, NCAA site officials, and media reps).  I do not believe MITs press box is capable of holding the required amount of people.  The garage should be a non issue, MIT owns it, and can simply close it off or charge people to go up there/park or whatever.

Look at it this way, it could show the MIT higher ups what a great thing they are missing out on and they can upgrade the facilities.  This is a great thing for d3 football in Boston.  Once MIT sees how successful these football players will be after they graduate, they might even do more. 

And MIT can recruit nationally, I think they can really do some great things if they can build from this.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on November 17, 2014, 12:04:56 PM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on November 17, 2014, 11:47:52 AM
Quote from: rlk on November 17, 2014, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on November 17, 2014, 09:25:53 AM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on November 17, 2014, 09:22:51 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 17, 2014, 02:16:46 AM
There's no football reason for MIT to go to Husson. They are a better team with a better resume and should be hosting. I know this is preaching to the chrior but being sent to Maine for that game is a screw job by the NCAA.  Although getting matched up with Husson is a gift to begin with. So I guess its a wash?

Can MIT even host?  They have a facility that may not be suitable for NCAA playoff purposes.

Having been to MIT, my guess would be that no, they cannot. When they played big games this year, most of the fans watched from the adjacent parking garage. There is not a D1, D2 or D3 high school team in Massachusetts that has a smaller set of stands than MIT does. If they are good again, hopefully they can get the ok to play at Cambridge HS or something, but I doubt they'd be in position to host if they made it back.

That's quite an exaggeration.  The garage in question really isn't that big, and the tailgate area doesn't have room for more than maybe 200 people to watch at any one time.  Here's a shot showing both (part of) the stands and the tailgate area from the WNE game: http://rlk.smugmug.com/Sports/MITWNE-crowd-shots/n-HF9fC/i-NvGpbBH

Perhaps the NCAA has different rules about hosting facilities for football and soccer, but the facility was good enough for women's soccer this weekend.

This has happened before (teams not being able to host), and I believe the reason usually is because the press box needs to hold x amount of people (official scorers, referees, clock operators, SIDS, NCAA site officials, and media reps).  I do not believe MITs press box is capable of holding the required amount of people.  The garage should be a non issue, MIT owns it, and can simply close it off or charge people to go up there/park or whatever.

Look at it this way, it could show the MIT higher ups what a great thing they are missing out on and they can upgrade the facilities.  This is a great thing for d3 football in Boston.  Once MIT sees how successful these football players will be after they graduate, they might even do more. 

And MIT can recruit nationally, I think they can really do some great things if they can build from this.

Utes - I could not agree with you more. Maybe MIT can do a fundraiser or pass around a hat since they are so hamstrung financially ;) ;)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on November 17, 2014, 12:07:47 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 17, 2014, 11:07:51 AM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on November 17, 2014, 11:02:12 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 17, 2014, 10:41:07 AM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on November 17, 2014, 10:29:19 AM
Quote from: wcrosby on November 17, 2014, 10:12:52 AM
Guys -- the people that watch from the garage doe it because they don't have to pay, they can tailgate, and can drink up there -- There are usually more away fans up there than home fans.  The stands are more than comfortable, and yes, the press box is small, but there is nothing wrong with the top-notch facilities and training rooms.

I didn't mean what I wrote as a slight to the program, I was just saying that the stands and box are extremely small, and my guess would be that they can not host because of that. The field they have is pretty new turf, and I'm sure the other facilities they have are very nice, but that's not what we were discussing.

The parking lot or whatever it is you're referencing at MIT COULD be the problem.  At RPI many years ago, we had to host up on the other turf field because there was a section where fans could watch without paying on our regular field.  This is a huge no-no for tournament games.  They want everyone to pay.  It's usually press boxes and tickets that are the killers.  RPI ended up figuring out a way to close that in later on so you could watch from there but could only access it with a ticket(prior to moving to the ECAV).  With MIT's first postseason visit, my guess is they haven't really worried about it yet.

I can understand people watching from somewhere other than the stands if they want to imbibe in alcohol but please don't tell me that saving the cost of a ticket is a big deal to 99.9999% of these people. People waste the cost of a ticket to a DIII game on Starjunks coffee or a number of other waste's of money. I can't buy that there are too many people who scheme to escape the $5.00 - $8.00 cost of a ticket. That is cheap with a capital 'C'!!!!!!!

It's also a shame that MIT has no endowment to be able to throw a few sheckles at stands/press box. Poor, poor school ;)

I don't disagree with you.  It's not the cost, it's just the ability to have that access.  The NCAA needs their money so they can spend it on covering up Jameis Winston's weekend autograph sales.

LewDogg - The NCAA sickens me and their treating DIII like red headed stepchildren is obscene.

I know they can't/won't........but I wish that one day, maybe when he/they retire(s), Pat and Company go off on these incompetent fools!!!!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rlk on November 17, 2014, 12:21:20 PM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on November 17, 2014, 11:47:52 AM
Quote from: rlk on November 17, 2014, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on November 17, 2014, 09:25:53 AM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on November 17, 2014, 09:22:51 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 17, 2014, 02:16:46 AM
There's no football reason for MIT to go to Husson. They are a better team with a better resume and should be hosting. I know this is preaching to the chrior but being sent to Maine for that game is a screw job by the NCAA.  Although getting matched up with Husson is a gift to begin with. So I guess its a wash?

Can MIT even host?  They have a facility that may not be suitable for NCAA playoff purposes.

Having been to MIT, my guess would be that no, they cannot. When they played big games this year, most of the fans watched from the adjacent parking garage. There is not a D1, D2 or D3 high school team in Massachusetts that has a smaller set of stands than MIT does. If they are good again, hopefully they can get the ok to play at Cambridge HS or something, but I doubt they'd be in position to host if they made it back.

That's quite an exaggeration.  The garage in question really isn't that big, and the tailgate area doesn't have room for more than maybe 200 people to watch at any one time.  Here's a shot showing both (part of) the stands and the tailgate area from the WNE game: http://rlk.smugmug.com/Sports/MITWNE-crowd-shots/n-HF9fC/i-NvGpbBH

Perhaps the NCAA has different rules about hosting facilities for football and soccer, but the facility was good enough for women's soccer this weekend.

This has happened before (teams not being able to host), and I believe the reason usually is because the press box needs to hold x amount of people (official scorers, referees, clock operators, SIDS, NCAA site officials, and media reps).  I do not believe MITs press box is capable of holding the required amount of people.  The garage should be a non issue, MIT owns it, and can simply close it off or charge people to go up there/park or whatever.

Look at it this way, it could show the MIT higher ups what a great thing they are missing out on and they can upgrade the facilities.  This is a great thing for d3 football in Boston.  Once MIT sees how successful these football players will be after they graduate, they might even do more. 

And MIT can recruit nationally, I think they can really do some great things if they can build from this.

The field has had a major upgrade in recent years (the surface is new).  There's not a lot of room to upgrade the stands without disrupting a lot of other playing fields between Vassar St., Kresge, Amherst Alley, and Tang/Eastgate.

And I'm hoping that they upgrade Rockwell Cage for basketball and volleyball.  It has a lot of character in its own way, just as the old building 20 did, but the lighting is awful.  It's 1-2 stops darker than the football field at night.  I shot the WNE and Coast Guard football games at 1/500 at f/2.8-3.2 with ISO 2000-3200, and it actually came out a bit hot (the dark sky and home uniforms fool the metering, and since different shots do have different lighting there's only so much I can do; there's enough shot to shot variation that I can't simply go full manual exposure).  In Rockwell I have to use 1/400 and get ISO 6400, maybe 5000 when I'm lucky (ISO 12800 really isn't useful on the 7D).  The MIT-Harvard game on Friday at Lavietes Pavilion was much better lit.

Realistically, I don't think the stands have much impact on recruiting.  Coach Martinovich goes to all of the Ivy League camps and picks off a lot of players that way, and whatever happens in the playoffs our 9-0 regular season has attracted a lot of national attention.  I don't think prospective athletes visit MIT, say "gee those stands are small, I think I'll go to an Ivy and ride the bench for what may be 4 years vs. go to MIT and have a real shot at playing time from the get-go".  If you want to go to MIT, you want to go to MIT.  Somebody who really did and wanted to play football at a strong level might have had a bit of a dilemma before which is now resolved, but again, the playing facility isn't the issue.

MIT charges $5 to park in the garage on weekends.  Closing the garage during game times would really kill attendance because street parking, which is never very easy, would become impossible.  Fuhgeddaboutit for day games; the street parking is metered with a 2 hour limit that Cambridge enforces.  MIT has some other lots on the east side of campus, but they're small and it's a pretty good walk down Amherst St. and then across the east side of campus (including the Green Building wind tunnel region), through the Infinite Corridor, across Mass. Ave., and through a good part of west campus.  Placing campus police on the roof to stop tailgating could be done if they really had to, I guess, but wouldn't be very popular.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: wcrosby on November 17, 2014, 12:23:12 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on November 17, 2014, 10:22:13 AM
We confirmed with Duey Naatz that MIT didn't file to host, hence they are on the road and they matched up these teams b/c of geo proximity.

www.blogtalkradio.com/ith/2014/11/17/in-the-huddlle--liberty-league-football-talk-show

FF to 30 mins and you'll hear this ? answered

Well, I talked to the Athletic Director, and they did file.  But Husson's facilities were considered superior.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rlk on November 17, 2014, 12:28:56 PM
There's another consideration here: yes, MIT is committed to football, but there are 32 or so other varsity sports (not to mention endless intramurals), and shifting too much around to accommodate football (particularly if it's just for the sake of the tournament, with no guarantee that we'd ever host anyway) would run counter to the spirit of MIT and be a very unpopular decision.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 17, 2014, 12:32:02 PM
Quote from: rlk on November 17, 2014, 12:28:56 PM
There's another consideration here: yes, MIT is committed to football, but there are 32 or so other varsity sports (not to mention endless intramurals), and shifting too much around to accommodate football (particularly if it's just for the sake of the tournament, with no guarantee that we'd ever host anyway) would run counter to the spirit of MIT and be a very unpopular decision.

Yea, but you can use a nice stadium for lots of other sports too.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rlk on November 17, 2014, 01:07:11 PM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on November 17, 2014, 12:32:02 PM
Quote from: rlk on November 17, 2014, 12:28:56 PM
There's another consideration here: yes, MIT is committed to football, but there are 32 or so other varsity sports (not to mention endless intramurals), and shifting too much around to accommodate football (particularly if it's just for the sake of the tournament, with no guarantee that we'd ever host anyway) would run counter to the spirit of MIT and be a very unpopular decision.

Yea, but you can use a nice stadium for lots of other sports too.

The facility is already perfectly good for track&field and soccer.  It abuts the lacrosse field (which looks like it's too big to wrap a regulation track around), which itself abuts a number of tennis courts.  On the side, it abuts the baseball field, which itself abuts the softball field, football practice field, and a number of other playinig fields (see https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3570162,-71.0987114,361m/data=!3m1!1e3) which are heavily used for IM.  Yes, I'm sure anyone who looks at it can see other potential possibilities, but those would involve uprooting at a minimum most of the outdoor athletic facilities.

The upshot is that unless MIT wants to rearchitect west campus, which I doubt, the footprint is more or less frozen.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on November 17, 2014, 01:09:59 PM
Quote from: rlk on November 17, 2014, 01:07:11 PM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on November 17, 2014, 12:32:02 PM
Quote from: rlk on November 17, 2014, 12:28:56 PM
There's another consideration here: yes, MIT is committed to football, but there are 32 or so other varsity sports (not to mention endless intramurals), and shifting too much around to accommodate football (particularly if it's just for the sake of the tournament, with no guarantee that we'd ever host anyway) would run counter to the spirit of MIT and be a very unpopular decision.

Yea, but you can use a nice stadium for lots of other sports too.

The facility is already perfectly good for track&field and soccer.  It abuts the lacrosse field (which looks like it's too big to wrap a regulation track around), which itself abuts a number of tennis courts.  On the side, it abuts the baseball field, which itself abuts the softball field, football practice field, and a number of other playinig fields (see https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3570162,-71.0987114,361m/data=!3m1!1e3) which are heavily used for IM.  Yes, I'm sure anyone who looks at it can see other potential possibilities, but those would involve uprooting at a minimum most of the outdoor athletic facilities.

The upshot is that unless MIT wants to rearchitect west campus, which I doubt, the footprint is more or less frozen.

It's tight, but it can be done.  There are plenty of small colleges with less resources than MIT has which are doing some great improvements with their facilities.  Look what Harvard has done in the last 10-15 years.  They have a little more room in Brighton, but just a nicer press box can help things.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ITH radio on November 17, 2014, 02:48:29 PM
So Duey got that one wrong. Frank asked the MIT AD and she responded that MIT did apply to host. Apparently their seating area while older, has been "grandfathered in" with regards to NCAA / standard expectations for hosting.

Perhaps the issue with selection (or lack thereof) was the fact that MIT did "not have restrooms on-site at the stadium venue, [no] ADA accessibility, and limited seating if you compare [MIT] to Husson."

Ms. Soriero's response to Frank's question (which was "we were just hoping to clarify officially [that MIT didn't file to host] so that rumors and Twitter activity can be eliminated concerning this question") is as follows:

Frank –

Thank you for the opportunity to respond to these rumors.  Let me state – MIT did apply to host this contest. We knew that given the current condition of our seating area and the need for renovations, we would not likely get chosen, but wanted to give our program the chance to play at home, if our assumptions were incorrect.    Our seating area is old and has been "grandfathered in" regarding some of the standard expectations for hosting events of this type.  We do not have restrooms on-site I the stadium venue,  we have no ADA accessibility, and limited seating if you compare us to Husson. 

Below is  the confirmation of our submittal:

Your proposed budget for hosting the First Round of the 2014-15 Division III Football championship has been received by the NCAA. You can print or view your budget at http://championships.ncaa.org. If you need to make any changes, please contact the administrator(s) of your championship listed below.

I would be more than willing to explain this to anyone who inquires and appreciate the opportunity to respond to these rumors.   Please respectfully correct  Director Naatz.


Thanks!

Julie Soriero
Director of Athletics and Department Head - DAPER
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 17, 2014, 03:37:33 PM
Quote from: wcrosby on November 17, 2014, 12:23:12 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on November 17, 2014, 10:22:13 AM
We confirmed with Duey Naatz that MIT didn't file to host, hence they are on the road and they matched up these teams b/c of geo proximity.

www.blogtalkradio.com/ith/2014/11/17/in-the-huddlle--liberty-league-football-talk-show

FF to 30 mins and you'll hear this ? answered

Well, I talked to the Athletic Director, and they did file.  But Husson's facilities were considered superior.

Not that Husson's facilities were considered superior, but that MIT's were considered inadequate. The NCAA doesn't give a lower seed a home game unless the higher seed's field cannot host.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: GoTech73 on November 17, 2014, 04:43:48 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 17, 2014, 03:37:33 PM
Quote from: wcrosby on November 17, 2014, 12:23:12 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on November 17, 2014, 10:22:13 AM
We confirmed with Duey Naatz that MIT didn't file to host, hence they are on the road and they matched up these teams b/c of geo proximity.

www.blogtalkradio.com/ith/2014/11/17/in-the-huddlle--liberty-league-football-talk-show

FF to 30 mins and you'll hear this ? answered

Well, I talked to the Athletic Director, and they did file.  But Husson's facilities were considered superior.

Not that Husson's facilities were considered superior, but that MIT's were considered inadequate. The NCAA doesn't give a lower seed a home game unless the higher seed's field cannot host.

Who would make the call on whether a facility is adequate? Since the committee chairman had the wrong information, I'm assuming it's not him? Just seems really weird that he would think MIT didn't apply, and not know that they were ruled inadequate.

In terms of improvements, it is something that has been in the works for years. When I was still a player (pre-2010) I remember seeing project renderings on the same footprint. Wcrosby can confirm, there are still ongoing plans. However, as Ms. Soriero mentioned to ITHradio, the facility has been grandfathered in on ADA compliance and no bathrooms. Touching the stadium at all invalidates that grandfathering, which drove the cost of the project larger than the budget. Fundraising efforts have been directed toward endowing a full time Assistant Coach, as right now Coach Chad is the only full time coach in the program.

As rlk mentioned, giving any appearance of preferential treatment to football would cause issues at MIT from a culture standpoint (and I don't even think that's a bad thing), and the current stadium appears to be suitable for other sports - the 1st round of the Women's Soccer tournament was hosted there just this past weekend.

All in all, MIT's endowment goes to academics and research, and DAPER's small budget is (rightfully) evenly distributed. Thus, fundraising is the only answer (Bob and Eveline Roberts donated the large sum to build the turf field in the summer of '08), and while this is a priority, it hasn't made it to the top yet. To be honest, I hope the correct word gets out, as I think this reality, combined with the exciting season, could in fact prompt some gifts.

And thanks to all the forum vets here for putting up with us super- (over-?) excited playoff first-timers. We're just having a whole lot of fun right now and it can be hard to hold those emotions in sometimes :)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 17, 2014, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: GoTech73 on November 17, 2014, 04:43:48 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 17, 2014, 03:37:33 PM
Quote from: wcrosby on November 17, 2014, 12:23:12 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on November 17, 2014, 10:22:13 AM
We confirmed with Duey Naatz that MIT didn't file to host, hence they are on the road and they matched up these teams b/c of geo proximity.

www.blogtalkradio.com/ith/2014/11/17/in-the-huddlle--liberty-league-football-talk-show

FF to 30 mins and you'll hear this ? answered

Well, I talked to the Athletic Director, and they did file.  But Husson's facilities were considered superior.

Not that Husson's facilities were considered superior, but that MIT's were considered inadequate. The NCAA doesn't give a lower seed a home game unless the higher seed's field cannot host.

Who would make the call on whether a facility is adequate? Since the committee chairman had the wrong information, I'm assuming it's not him? Just seems really weird that he would think MIT didn't apply, and not know that they were ruled inadequate.

I would guess it is determined by the paperwork at the NCAA office, perhaps with the input of coaches on the regional committee. They may have conferred with the soccer committee as well. I don't have a lot of visibility into that process but we've only had a few instances where a facility has been deemed inadequate and the ones that I have seen, I agreed with. For example, Carthage had a beautiful stadium but hadn't yet improved its press box and they were then sent on the road for three rounds about a decade ago.

Honestly, it doesn't necessarily matter to the chair why the school can't host. He just needs to know when constructing the bracket that a specific school can't be at home; whether it's a lack of paperwork or an insufficient facility, it's the same box that gets checked for the committee.

I haven't been to a soccer playoff game in more than a decade but football has some pretty specific requirements in terms of minimum seating because of the number of game day personnel required, plus media, an NCAA observer, game official, etc. If you can't seat everyone needed, then you're not going to host. Mass-Dartmouth didn't host in 2002 because of that either, and we understand Framingham State was supposed to host in 2012 but couldn't.

Do please enjoy the playoffs and don't assume the NCAA has it out for MIT. I can't imagine the NCAA knowing enough about specific schools to have a vendetta.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: GoTech73 on November 17, 2014, 05:24:07 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 17, 2014, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: GoTech73 on November 17, 2014, 04:43:48 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 17, 2014, 03:37:33 PM
Quote from: wcrosby on November 17, 2014, 12:23:12 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on November 17, 2014, 10:22:13 AM
We confirmed with Duey Naatz that MIT didn't file to host, hence they are on the road and they matched up these teams b/c of geo proximity.

www.blogtalkradio.com/ith/2014/11/17/in-the-huddlle--liberty-league-football-talk-show

FF to 30 mins and you'll hear this ? answered

Well, I talked to the Athletic Director, and they did file.  But Husson's facilities were considered superior.

Not that Husson's facilities were considered superior, but that MIT's were considered inadequate. The NCAA doesn't give a lower seed a home game unless the higher seed's field cannot host.

Who would make the call on whether a facility is adequate? Since the committee chairman had the wrong information, I'm assuming it's not him? Just seems really weird that he would think MIT didn't apply, and not know that they were ruled inadequate.

I would guess it is determined by the paperwork at the NCAA office, perhaps with the input of coaches on the regional committee. They may have conferred with the soccer committee as well. I don't have a lot of visibility into that process but we've only had a few instances where a facility has been deemed inadequate and the ones that I have seen, I agreed with. For example, Carthage had a beautiful stadium but hadn't yet improved its press box and they were then sent on the road for three rounds about a decade ago.

Honestly, it doesn't necessarily matter to the chair why the school can't host. He just needs to know when constructing the bracket that a specific school can't be at home; whether it's a lack of paperwork or an insufficient facility, it's the same box that gets checked for the committee.

I haven't been to a soccer playoff game in more than a decade but football has some pretty specific requirements in terms of minimum seating because of the number of game day personnel required, plus media, an NCAA observer, game official, etc. If you can't seat everyone needed, then you're not going to host. Mass-Dartmouth didn't host in 2002 because of that either, and we understand Framingham State was supposed to host in 2012 but couldn't.

Do please enjoy the playoffs and don't assume the NCAA has it out for MIT. I can't imagine the NCAA knowing enough about specific schools to have a vendetta.

Oh I definitely don't think the NCAA has it out for us - just looking to understand the process, and I know this is the best place to have a shot doing so. Thanks for sharing your insights, Pat!

Interesting that you brought up Carthage as well - I was with one of my MIT teammates' this weekend whose brother played on that Carthage team, and he was pretty sure MIT *wouldn't* be able to host because of that, so I wasn't terribly surprised yesterday. We'll just take the show on the road and get to see the sights in Bangor!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: wcrosby on November 17, 2014, 07:03:20 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 17, 2014, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: GoTech73 on November 17, 2014, 04:43:48 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 17, 2014, 03:37:33 PM
Quote from: wcrosby on November 17, 2014, 12:23:12 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on November 17, 2014, 10:22:13 AM
We confirmed with Duey Naatz that MIT didn't file to host, hence they are on the road and they matched up these teams b/c of geo proximity.

www.blogtalkradio.com/ith/2014/11/17/in-the-huddlle--liberty-league-football-talk-show

FF to 30 mins and you'll hear this ? answered

Well, I talked to the Athletic Director, and they did file.  But Husson's facilities were considered superior.

Not that Husson's facilities were considered superior, but that MIT's were considered inadequate. The NCAA doesn't give a lower seed a home game unless the higher seed's field cannot host.

Who would make the call on whether a facility is adequate? Since the committee chairman had the wrong information, I'm assuming it's not him? Just seems really weird that he would think MIT didn't apply, and not know that they were ruled inadequate.

I would guess it is determined by the paperwork at the NCAA office, perhaps with the input of coaches on the regional committee. They may have conferred with the soccer committee as well. I don't have a lot of visibility into that process but we've only had a few instances where a facility has been deemed inadequate and the ones that I have seen, I agreed with. For example, Carthage had a beautiful stadium but hadn't yet improved its press box and they were then sent on the road for three rounds about a decade ago.

Honestly, it doesn't necessarily matter to the chair why the school can't host. He just needs to know when constructing the bracket that a specific school can't be at home; whether it's a lack of paperwork or an insufficient facility, it's the same box that gets checked for the committee.

I haven't been to a soccer playoff game in more than a decade but football has some pretty specific requirements in terms of minimum seating because of the number of game day personnel required, plus media, an NCAA observer, game official, etc. If you can't seat everyone needed, then you're not going to host. Mass-Dartmouth didn't host in 2002 because of that either, and we understand Framingham State was supposed to host in 2012 but couldn't.

Do please enjoy the playoffs and don't assume the NCAA has it out for MIT. I can't imagine the NCAA knowing enough about specific schools to have a vendetta.

Gee, if UMass Dartmouth couldn't host, no wonder we couldn't.  Their facility is a Taj Mahal next to ours.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 17, 2014, 07:53:22 PM
This is certainly disappointing for a team to not be able to host. I recall when Brockport couldn't host due to bad field conditions after the previous week's playoff game. Now, luckily the game was just pushed to another location nearby (The University of Rochester). Was there any possibility of a closer field or do they just not consider that in the first round? 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rlk on November 17, 2014, 08:02:58 PM
Quote from: GoTech73 on November 17, 2014, 04:43:48 PM
As rlk mentioned, giving any appearance of preferential treatment to football would cause issues at MIT from a culture standpoint (and I don't even think that's a bad thing), and the current stadium appears to be suitable for other sports - the 1st round of the Women's Soccer tournament was hosted there just this past weekend.

All in all, MIT's endowment goes to academics and research, and DAPER's small budget is (rightfully) evenly distributed. Thus, fundraising is the only answer (Bob and Eveline Roberts donated the large sum to build the turf field in the summer of '08), and while this is a priority, it hasn't made it to the top yet. To be honest, I hope the correct word gets out, as I think this reality, combined with the exciting season, could in fact prompt some gifts.

And thanks to all the forum vets here for putting up with us super- (over-?) excited playoff first-timers. We're just having a whole lot of fun right now and it can be hard to hold those emotions in sometimes :)

(I've been around here, and more so on the NEWMAC men's basketball board, for a while, so welcome fellow Engineers!)

I don't know offhand what DAPER's (Department of Athletics, Physical Education, and Recreation) budget is, but I'm sure it's not terribly large -- surely not in proportion to the demands on the department. Ultimately, DAPER's goal is to serve the MIT community as a whole, including *all* of the varsity programs and intramurals.

I was basketball team manager in my day (let's just say I'm slow and can't jump -- 6'5" but could never dunk more than a volleyball, and more usually a tennis ball) and I've been enjoying the success of the program lately.  I made the trip to Salem for the basketball Final Four two years ago, and what an experience it was.  Ran into a few friends from my day, and met Jimmy Bartolotta (who was D3 National Player of the Year among other things, not least of which being a really good guy).  I branched out to photographing football this year (I hoped to make some home games last year, but schedules clashed), and it's the same kind of experience.

But I agree with GoTech73 that giving preferential treatment of the kind suggested to any sport would be completely out of character for MIT.  MIT's remarkably egalitarian in a lot of ways inside -- meritocratic, yes, but you don't get any preference because of who you are.  It doesn't matter if you're an Institute Professor (what might be called distinguished professor elsewhere) with 2 Nobels to your name, an undergrad, team coach, janitor, or campus police officer, you're part of the MIT community (the outpouring of support for Officer Sean Collier, who was murdered by those #1 and #2 unprintables who bombed the Boston Marathon, is a testament to that -- they've established an award in his memory for the person or group exemplifiying service, and named a square for him).  That doesn't mean that you can't distinguish yourself by your accomplishments, and Coach Martinovich certainly has (as has, of course, Coach Anderson).  We take care of our own, but part of that is that nobody jumps the line by dint of public acclaim.  I don't think Justin Wallace gets any particular recognition for his football prowess in his electrical engineering and computer science (or Course VI, as we know it) classes, and I would be quite surprised indeed if he expects any.  Recognition from MIT as a whole, sure, but in context.  MIT doesn't have class rank or graduation honors, nor does it give out honorary degrees.

So maybe our football facilities aren't the spiffiest in the land.  The team, like everyone else, makes silk purses from sow's ears.  The difference is that they extract the collagen, invent a process to produce a stronger yet softer fiber than anything that came before from it from that collagen, and then design and build the equipment to turn them out in quantity -- and quality.  And then go out and buy an NFL franchise.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: GoTech73 on November 17, 2014, 09:02:57 PM
Quote from: rlk on November 17, 2014, 08:02:58 PM
Quote from: GoTech73 on November 17, 2014, 04:43:48 PM
As rlk mentioned, giving any appearance of preferential treatment to football would cause issues at MIT from a culture standpoint (and I don't even think that's a bad thing), and the current stadium appears to be suitable for other sports - the 1st round of the Women's Soccer tournament was hosted there just this past weekend.

All in all, MIT's endowment goes to academics and research, and DAPER's small budget is (rightfully) evenly distributed. Thus, fundraising is the only answer (Bob and Eveline Roberts donated the large sum to build the turf field in the summer of '08), and while this is a priority, it hasn't made it to the top yet. To be honest, I hope the correct word gets out, as I think this reality, combined with the exciting season, could in fact prompt some gifts.

And thanks to all the forum vets here for putting up with us super- (over-?) excited playoff first-timers. We're just having a whole lot of fun right now and it can be hard to hold those emotions in sometimes :)

(I've been around here, and more so on the NEWMAC men's basketball board, for a while, so welcome fellow Engineers!)

...

I was basketball team manager in my day (let's just say I'm slow and can't jump -- 6'5" but could never dunk more than a volleyball, and more usually a tennis ball) and I've been enjoying the success of the program lately.  I made the trip to Salem for the basketball Final Four two years ago, and what an experience it was.  Ran into a few friends from my day, and met Jimmy Bartolotta (who was D3 National Player of the Year among other things, not least of which being a really good guy).  I branched out to photographing football this year (I hoped to make some home games last year, but schedules clashed), and it's the same kind of experience.

I've been around too, including on the NEWMAC boards...I just usually am a lurker and leave the talking there to you and HN :) Can't hold in my excitement this season though, especially here. I've also enjoyed observing the bball success as well - Coach Anderson was my freshman adviser and then I worked with him as an associate adviser my sophomore year. Incredible man, and I hope Coach Chad is able to build the same sustainability that Coach Anderson has manage to establish on the hardwood. My other random connection to the bball team is that when visiting the 'Tute my senior year of HS, I actually stayed with Billy Johnson and Jimmy Bartolotta. Was pretty excited to then watch him take the world by storm the next few years!

To bring it back to football - has anyone here seen Husson play this year? I'm curious how we'll match up. General consensus seems to give MIT the edge, but I haven't heard much more detail.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on November 17, 2014, 09:12:51 PM
Quote from: rlk on November 17, 2014, 08:02:58 PM
Quote from: GoTech73 on November 17, 2014, 04:43:48 PM
As rlk mentioned, giving any appearance of preferential treatment to football would cause issues at MIT from a culture standpoint (and I don't even think that's a bad thing), and the current stadium appears to be suitable for other sports - the 1st round of the Women's Soccer tournament was hosted there just this past weekend.

All in all, MIT's endowment goes to academics and research, and DAPER's small budget is (rightfully) evenly distributed. Thus, fundraising is the only answer (Bob and Eveline Roberts donated the large sum to build the turf field in the summer of '08), and while this is a priority, it hasn't made it to the top yet. To be honest, I hope the correct word gets out, as I think this reality, combined with the exciting season, could in fact prompt some gifts.

And thanks to all the forum vets here for putting up with us super- (over-?) excited playoff first-timers. We're just having a whole lot of fun right now and it can be hard to hold those emotions in sometimes :)

(I've been around here, and more so on the NEWMAC men's basketball board, for a while, so welcome fellow Engineers!)

I don't know offhand what DAPER's (Department of Athletics, Physical Education, and Recreation) budget is, but I'm sure it's not terribly large -- surely not in proportion to the demands on the department. Ultimately, DAPER's goal is to serve the MIT community as a whole, including *all* of the varsity programs and intramurals.

I was basketball team manager in my day (let's just say I'm slow and can't jump -- 6'5" but could never dunk more than a volleyball, and more usually a tennis ball) and I've been enjoying the success of the program lately.  I made the trip to Salem for the basketball Final Four two years ago, and what an experience it was.  Ran into a few friends from my day, and met Jimmy Bartolotta (who was D3 National Player of the Year among other things, not least of which being a really good guy).  I branched out to photographing football this year (I hoped to make some home games last year, but schedules clashed), and it's the same kind of experience.

But I agree with GoTech73 that giving preferential treatment of the kind suggested to any sport would be completely out of character for MIT.  MIT's remarkably egalitarian in a lot of ways inside -- meritocratic, yes, but you don't get any preference because of who you are.  It doesn't matter if you're an Institute Professor (what might be called distinguished professor elsewhere) with 2 Nobels to your name, an undergrad, team coach, janitor, or campus police officer, you're part of the MIT community (the outpouring of support for Officer Sean Collier, who was murdered by those #1 and #2 unprintables who bombed the Boston Marathon, is a testament to that -- they've established an award in his memory for the person or group exemplifiying service, and named a square for him).  That doesn't mean that you can't distinguish yourself by your accomplishments, and Coach Martinovich certainly has (as has, of course, Coach Anderson).  We take care of our own, but part of that is that nobody jumps the line by dint of public acclaim.  I don't think Justin Wallace gets any particular recognition for his football prowess in his electrical engineering and computer science (or Course VI, as we know it) classes, and I would be quite surprised indeed if he expects any.  Recognition from MIT as a whole, sure, but in context.  MIT doesn't have class rank or graduation honors, nor does it give out honorary degrees.

So maybe our football facilities aren't the spiffiest in the land.  The team, like everyone else, makes silk purses from sow's ears.  The difference is that they extract the collagen, invent a process to produce a stronger yet softer fiber than anything that came before from it from that collagen, and then design and build the equipment to turn them out in quantity -- and quality.  And then go out and buy an NFL franchise.

rlk - Serious question from a shlub with an undergrad degree from Swarthmore. How many of the 32 NFL owners are MIT graduates?

John Thain (MIT '77) could have bought a team.............with the money he stole from Merrill Lynch. A $66,000 commode with pure gold legs and a $132,000 rug for his office.

Thank God he is the exception........and not the rule!! My buddies from MIT are super smart AND super people.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on November 17, 2014, 09:23:17 PM
My favorite NFL owner (having nothing to do with being friends)..................Steve Bisciotti of the Ravens. Came from nothing, son of Italian immigrants, Liberal Arts degree from Salisbury State University in Maryland (1982), $2.7 billion dollar net worth. The name on the piece of paper helps...........but without it, a determined person can still achieve great, great things.

Back to our regular programming ;)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: GoTech73 on November 17, 2014, 09:36:09 PM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on November 17, 2014, 09:12:51 PM
Quote from: rlk on November 17, 2014, 08:02:58 PM
Quote from: GoTech73 on November 17, 2014, 04:43:48 PM
As rlk mentioned, giving any appearance of preferential treatment to football would cause issues at MIT from a culture standpoint (and I don't even think that's a bad thing), and the current stadium appears to be suitable for other sports - the 1st round of the Women's Soccer tournament was hosted there just this past weekend.

All in all, MIT's endowment goes to academics and research, and DAPER's small budget is (rightfully) evenly distributed. Thus, fundraising is the only answer (Bob and Eveline Roberts donated the large sum to build the turf field in the summer of '08), and while this is a priority, it hasn't made it to the top yet. To be honest, I hope the correct word gets out, as I think this reality, combined with the exciting season, could in fact prompt some gifts.

And thanks to all the forum vets here for putting up with us super- (over-?) excited playoff first-timers. We're just having a whole lot of fun right now and it can be hard to hold those emotions in sometimes :)

(I've been around here, and more so on the NEWMAC men's basketball board, for a while, so welcome fellow Engineers!)

I don't know offhand what DAPER's (Department of Athletics, Physical Education, and Recreation) budget is, but I'm sure it's not terribly large -- surely not in proportion to the demands on the department. Ultimately, DAPER's goal is to serve the MIT community as a whole, including *all* of the varsity programs and intramurals.

I was basketball team manager in my day (let's just say I'm slow and can't jump -- 6'5" but could never dunk more than a volleyball, and more usually a tennis ball) and I've been enjoying the success of the program lately.  I made the trip to Salem for the basketball Final Four two years ago, and what an experience it was.  Ran into a few friends from my day, and met Jimmy Bartolotta (who was D3 National Player of the Year among other things, not least of which being a really good guy).  I branched out to photographing football this year (I hoped to make some home games last year, but schedules clashed), and it's the same kind of experience.

But I agree with GoTech73 that giving preferential treatment of the kind suggested to any sport would be completely out of character for MIT.  MIT's remarkably egalitarian in a lot of ways inside -- meritocratic, yes, but you don't get any preference because of who you are.  It doesn't matter if you're an Institute Professor (what might be called distinguished professor elsewhere) with 2 Nobels to your name, an undergrad, team coach, janitor, or campus police officer, you're part of the MIT community (the outpouring of support for Officer Sean Collier, who was murdered by those #1 and #2 unprintables who bombed the Boston Marathon, is a testament to that -- they've established an award in his memory for the person or group exemplifiying service, and named a square for him).  That doesn't mean that you can't distinguish yourself by your accomplishments, and Coach Martinovich certainly has (as has, of course, Coach Anderson).  We take care of our own, but part of that is that nobody jumps the line by dint of public acclaim.  I don't think Justin Wallace gets any particular recognition for his football prowess in his electrical engineering and computer science (or Course VI, as we know it) classes, and I would be quite surprised indeed if he expects any.  Recognition from MIT as a whole, sure, but in context.  MIT doesn't have class rank or graduation honors, nor does it give out honorary degrees.

So maybe our football facilities aren't the spiffiest in the land.  The team, like everyone else, makes silk purses from sow's ears.  The difference is that they extract the collagen, invent a process to produce a stronger yet softer fiber than anything that came before from it from that collagen, and then design and build the equipment to turn them out in quantity -- and quality.  And then go out and buy an NFL franchise.

rlk - Serious question from a shlub with an undergrad degree from Swarthmore. How many of the 32 NFL owners are MIT graduates?

John Thain (MIT '77) could have bought a team.............with the money he stole from Merrill Lynch. A $66,000 commode with pure gold legs and a $132,000 rug for his office.

Thank God he is the exception........and not the rule!! My buddies from MIT are super smart AND super people.

Just went through the list - there actually aren't any. Though, I suppose there could be an MIT grad or two holding shares in the Packers' public ownership... :-P
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rlk on November 17, 2014, 09:37:37 PM
Quote from: GoTech73 on November 17, 2014, 09:02:57 PM

I've been around too, including on the NEWMAC boards...I just usually am a lurker and leave the talking there to you and HN :) Can't hold in my excitement this season though, especially here. I've also enjoyed observing the bball success as well - Coach Anderson was my freshman adviser and then I worked with him as an associate adviser my sophomore year. Incredible man, and I hope Coach Chad is able to build the same sustainability that Coach Anderson has manage to establish on the hardwood. My other random connection to the bball team is that when visiting the 'Tute my senior year of HS, I actually stayed with Billy Johnson and Jimmy Bartolotta. Was pretty excited to then watch him take the world by storm the next few years!

To bring it back to football - has anyone here seen Husson play this year? I'm curious how we'll match up. General consensus seems to give MIT the edge, but I haven't heard much more detail.

I ran into Billy a lot when he was an assistant coach.  He runs mithoops.net.  Fun guy, and we keep in touch.  You should check out my photo site (http://rlk.smugmug.com/Sports) -- lots of MIT sports shots there.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 18, 2014, 11:19:33 AM
Quote from: wcrosby on November 17, 2014, 07:03:20 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 17, 2014, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: GoTech73 on November 17, 2014, 04:43:48 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 17, 2014, 03:37:33 PM
Quote from: wcrosby on November 17, 2014, 12:23:12 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on November 17, 2014, 10:22:13 AM
We confirmed with Duey Naatz that MIT didn't file to host, hence they are on the road and they matched up these teams b/c of geo proximity.

www.blogtalkradio.com/ith/2014/11/17/in-the-huddlle--liberty-league-football-talk-show

FF to 30 mins and you'll hear this ? answered

Well, I talked to the Athletic Director, and they did file.  But Husson's facilities were considered superior.

Not that Husson's facilities were considered superior, but that MIT's were considered inadequate. The NCAA doesn't give a lower seed a home game unless the higher seed's field cannot host.

Who would make the call on whether a facility is adequate? Since the committee chairman had the wrong information, I'm assuming it's not him? Just seems really weird that he would think MIT didn't apply, and not know that they were ruled inadequate.

I would guess it is determined by the paperwork at the NCAA office, perhaps with the input of coaches on the regional committee. They may have conferred with the soccer committee as well. I don't have a lot of visibility into that process but we've only had a few instances where a facility has been deemed inadequate and the ones that I have seen, I agreed with. For example, Carthage had a beautiful stadium but hadn't yet improved its press box and they were then sent on the road for three rounds about a decade ago.

Honestly, it doesn't necessarily matter to the chair why the school can't host. He just needs to know when constructing the bracket that a specific school can't be at home; whether it's a lack of paperwork or an insufficient facility, it's the same box that gets checked for the committee.

I haven't been to a soccer playoff game in more than a decade but football has some pretty specific requirements in terms of minimum seating because of the number of game day personnel required, plus media, an NCAA observer, game official, etc. If you can't seat everyone needed, then you're not going to host. Mass-Dartmouth didn't host in 2002 because of that either, and we understand Framingham State was supposed to host in 2012 but couldn't.

Do please enjoy the playoffs and don't assume the NCAA has it out for MIT. I can't imagine the NCAA knowing enough about specific schools to have a vendetta.

Gee, if UMass Dartmouth couldn't host, no wonder we couldn't.  Their facility is a Taj Mahal next to ours.

Was it in 2002?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ECoastFootball on November 18, 2014, 11:26:25 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 18, 2014, 11:19:33 AM
Was it in 2002?

While it has more seating capacity than MIT, UMass Dartmouth is no Taj Mahal.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2014, 07:57:55 PM
I'm pretty sure Umass D's stadium was upgraded after 2002. I actually know a couple guys from that team. They got monkey stomped. I forget by whom, I think some upstate New York or Pennsylvania team. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 18, 2014, 08:12:28 PM
LOL, I just looked up those scores for that 2002 season for NEFC teams in the post season. It wasn't pretty.

NCAA Round 1 - Muhlenberg - 56
                        Umass D - 6 (they were 11-0 going into that game)

ECAC - Hartwick - 69
            Curry - 14

ECAC - Cortland St - 30
           Westfield St - 7

ECAC - RPI - 55
           Worcester St - 29 (Looks like by scores the best team in the NEFC that year)


Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2014, 02:08:07 PM
And was it the next year that the ECAC changed its bowl matchups based on the New England schools howling about getting crushed? I see Mass-Dartmouth got to play Worcester State in its ECAC game the next year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: GoPerry on November 22, 2014, 09:51:07 AM
Nobody should miss the article in Saturday's Wall Street Journal on MIT's Football Team.  "How MIT Engineered a Football Team Out of Scrap".

Here's the link but it might not work if you're not a subscriber to the Online WSJ

http://online.wsj.com/articles/how-players-at-mit-engineered-a-football-team-1416586648


Enjoy!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Hugenerd on November 26, 2014, 07:57:01 PM
Quote from: GoTech73 on November 17, 2014, 09:36:09 PM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on November 17, 2014, 09:12:51 PM
Quote from: rlk on November 17, 2014, 08:02:58 PM
Quote from: GoTech73 on November 17, 2014, 04:43:48 PM
As rlk mentioned, giving any appearance of preferential treatment to football would cause issues at MIT from a culture standpoint (and I don't even think that's a bad thing), and the current stadium appears to be suitable for other sports - the 1st round of the Women's Soccer tournament was hosted there just this past weekend.

All in all, MIT's endowment goes to academics and research, and DAPER's small budget is (rightfully) evenly distributed. Thus, fundraising is the only answer (Bob and Eveline Roberts donated the large sum to build the turf field in the summer of '08), and while this is a priority, it hasn't made it to the top yet. To be honest, I hope the correct word gets out, as I think this reality, combined with the exciting season, could in fact prompt some gifts.

And thanks to all the forum vets here for putting up with us super- (over-?) excited playoff first-timers. We're just having a whole lot of fun right now and it can be hard to hold those emotions in sometimes :)

(I've been around here, and more so on the NEWMAC men's basketball board, for a while, so welcome fellow Engineers!)

I don't know offhand what DAPER's (Department of Athletics, Physical Education, and Recreation) budget is, but I'm sure it's not terribly large -- surely not in proportion to the demands on the department. Ultimately, DAPER's goal is to serve the MIT community as a whole, including *all* of the varsity programs and intramurals.

I was basketball team manager in my day (let's just say I'm slow and can't jump -- 6'5" but could never dunk more than a volleyball, and more usually a tennis ball) and I've been enjoying the success of the program lately.  I made the trip to Salem for the basketball Final Four two years ago, and what an experience it was.  Ran into a few friends from my day, and met Jimmy Bartolotta (who was D3 National Player of the Year among other things, not least of which being a really good guy).  I branched out to photographing football this year (I hoped to make some home games last year, but schedules clashed), and it's the same kind of experience.

But I agree with GoTech73 that giving preferential treatment of the kind suggested to any sport would be completely out of character for MIT.  MIT's remarkably egalitarian in a lot of ways inside -- meritocratic, yes, but you don't get any preference because of who you are.  It doesn't matter if you're an Institute Professor (what might be called distinguished professor elsewhere) with 2 Nobels to your name, an undergrad, team coach, janitor, or campus police officer, you're part of the MIT community (the outpouring of support for Officer Sean Collier, who was murdered by those #1 and #2 unprintables who bombed the Boston Marathon, is a testament to that -- they've established an award in his memory for the person or group exemplifiying service, and named a square for him).  That doesn't mean that you can't distinguish yourself by your accomplishments, and Coach Martinovich certainly has (as has, of course, Coach Anderson).  We take care of our own, but part of that is that nobody jumps the line by dint of public acclaim.  I don't think Justin Wallace gets any particular recognition for his football prowess in his electrical engineering and computer science (or Course VI, as we know it) classes, and I would be quite surprised indeed if he expects any.  Recognition from MIT as a whole, sure, but in context.  MIT doesn't have class rank or graduation honors, nor does it give out honorary degrees.

So maybe our football facilities aren't the spiffiest in the land.  The team, like everyone else, makes silk purses from sow's ears.  The difference is that they extract the collagen, invent a process to produce a stronger yet softer fiber than anything that came before from it from that collagen, and then design and build the equipment to turn them out in quantity -- and quality.  And then go out and buy an NFL franchise.

rlk - Serious question from a shlub with an undergrad degree from Swarthmore. How many of the 32 NFL owners are MIT graduates?

John Thain (MIT '77) could have bought a team.............with the money he stole from Merrill Lynch. A $66,000 commode with pure gold legs and a $132,000 rug for his office.

Thank God he is the exception........and not the rule!! My buddies from MIT are super smart AND super people.

Just went through the list - there actually aren't any. Though, I suppose there could be an MIT grad or two holding shares in the Packers' public ownership... :-P

Not an NFL team, but the father of a current student and former basketball player is the owner of the Milwaukee Brewers.

Quote from: rlk on November 17, 2014, 09:37:37 PM
Quote from: GoTech73 on November 17, 2014, 09:02:57 PM

I've been around too, including on the NEWMAC boards...I just usually am a lurker and leave the talking there to you and HN :) Can't hold in my excitement this season though, especially here. I've also enjoyed observing the bball success as well - Coach Anderson was my freshman adviser and then I worked with him as an associate adviser my sophomore year. Incredible man, and I hope Coach Chad is able to build the same sustainability that Coach Anderson has manage to establish on the hardwood. My other random connection to the bball team is that when visiting the 'Tute my senior year of HS, I actually stayed with Billy Johnson and Jimmy Bartolotta. Was pretty excited to then watch him take the world by storm the next few years!

To bring it back to football - has anyone here seen Husson play this year? I'm curious how we'll match up. General consensus seems to give MIT the edge, but I haven't heard much more detail.

I ran into Billy a lot when he was an assistant coach.  He runs mithoops.net.  Fun guy, and we keep in touch.  You should check out my photo site (http://rlk.smugmug.com/Sports) -- lots of MIT sports shots there.

Billy is very knowledgeable about both MIT basketball and football. After graduating, he traveled around and played pro/semi pro ball for a few years.  He does a great job on the hoops blog also. He took it over from me about 4 years ago after I graduated and has come up with great features such as the "Slamblockulator".

What is the line on this week's MIT/Wesley matchup? Any scenario where MIT could pull off the upset?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on November 26, 2014, 08:09:59 PM
Hugenerd (if memory serves me right you are a CMU basketball alum):

As much as I'm pulling for them, no chance MIT wins this weekend. Zero. Still, it will be a great experience!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rlk on November 26, 2014, 09:38:05 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 26, 2014, 08:09:59 PM
Hugenerd (if memory serves me right you are a CMU basketball alum):

As much as I'm pulling for them, no chance MIT wins this weekend. Zero. Still, it will be a great experience!

The game is played for 60 minutes on a 120x60 yard (counting the end zones, of course) field.  Not in the blogs, not on the message boards.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Hugenerd on November 26, 2014, 09:58:29 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 26, 2014, 08:09:59 PM
Hugenerd (if memory serves me right you are a CMU basketball alum):

As much as I'm pulling for them, no chance MIT wins this weekend. Zero. Still, it will be a great experience!

I am a CMU basketball player alum but, more recently, an MIT graduate assistant coach alum. I'd say I'm closer to the MIT program nowadays.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rlk on November 26, 2014, 11:05:31 PM
Quote from: rlk on November 26, 2014, 09:38:05 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 26, 2014, 08:09:59 PM
Hugenerd (if memory serves me right you are a CMU basketball alum):

As much as I'm pulling for them, no chance MIT wins this weekend. Zero. Still, it will be a great experience!

The game is played for 60 minutes on a 120x60 yard (counting the end zones, of course) field.  Not in the blogs, not on the message boards.

Just to be clear: my point is simply that the game is played on the field by the players, not on the discussion boards by pundits and fans.  I'm well aware that Wesley is a superb team; losing 33-28 to a D1 team (even a lower-middling FCS squad) and being in it until the very end says volumes about their ability.  But saying that it's preordained that team X will win is silly; if that were so, why even bother playing the game?  The game will be played, and I'm sure that the MIT players will relish the opportunity to go up against the very best.  It's exactly the kind of challenge that any true Engineer wants.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: wesleydad on November 29, 2014, 08:40:26 AM
Quote from: rlk on November 26, 2014, 11:05:31 PM
Quote from: rlk on November 26, 2014, 09:38:05 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 26, 2014, 08:09:59 PM
Hugenerd (if memory serves me right you are a CMU basketball alum):

As much as I'm pulling for them, no chance MIT wins this weekend. Zero. Still, it will be a great experience!

The game is played for 60 minutes on a 120x60 yard (counting the end zones, of course) field.  Not in the blogs, not on the message boards.


Just to be clear: my point is simply that the game is played on the field by the players, not on the discussion boards by pundits and fans.  I'm well aware that Wesley is a superb team; losing 33-28 to a D1 team (even a lower-middling FCS squad) and being in it until the very end says volumes about their ability.  But saying that it's preordained that team X will win is silly; if that were so, why even bother playing the game?  The game will be played, and I'm sure that the MIT players will relish the opportunity to go up against the very best.  It's exactly the kind of challenge that any true Engineer wants.


Anyone has a chance when the game starts.  As Hampden Sydney found out that could end rather quickly.  I expect MIT to show better than Hampden did.  Good luck today and enjoy the experience.  Any team should be proud to make it to the final 16 no matter what others think about the level of teams you play.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on November 29, 2014, 10:58:06 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 29, 2014, 08:40:26 AM
Quote from: rlk on November 26, 2014, 11:05:31 PM
Quote from: rlk on November 26, 2014, 09:38:05 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 26, 2014, 08:09:59 PM
Hugenerd (if memory serves me right you are a CMU basketball alum):

As much as I'm pulling for them, no chance MIT wins this weekend. Zero. Still, it will be a great experience!

The game is played for 60 minutes on a 120x60 yard (counting the end zones, of course) field.  Not in the blogs, not on the message boards.


Just to be clear: my point is simply that the game is played on the field by the players, not on the discussion boards by pundits and fans.  I'm well aware that Wesley is a superb team; losing 33-28 to a D1 team (even a lower-middling FCS squad) and being in it until the very end says volumes about their ability.  But saying that it's preordained that team X will win is silly; if that were so, why even bother playing the game?  The game will be played, and I'm sure that the MIT players will relish the opportunity to go up against the very best.  It's exactly the kind of challenge that any true Engineer wants.


Anyone has a chance when the game starts.  As Hampden Sydney found out that could end rather quickly.  I expect MIT to show better than Hampden did.  Good luck today and enjoy the experience.  Any team should be proud to make it to the final 16 no matter what others think about the level of teams you play.

Just found out there is video for the game against Wesley...awesome!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on November 29, 2014, 12:28:42 PM
28-0 Wesley still in the 1st quarter?  Dear lord...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rlk on November 29, 2014, 03:50:06 PM
A painful end to an amazing season, but you learn from going up against the best.  I will not be the least bit surprised if we see Wesley in Salem.  I only saw the score, not the game; thankfully the men's basketball game (which I was at) ended on a happier note.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 29, 2014, 06:16:51 PM
Quote from: rlk on November 29, 2014, 03:50:06 PM
A painful end to an amazing season, but you learn from going up against the best.  I will not be the least bit surprised if we see Wesley in Salem.  I only saw the score, not the game; thankfully the men's basketball game (which I was at) ended on a happier note.

Heck, it would of happen to any team from New England. No shame in that. But still 35-0 at the end of the first quarter hurts.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dedragon on November 29, 2014, 06:27:05 PM
No reason to hang any heads. Great season you guys. The playoffs are just where you find out how good the really good teams are. Wesley is still trying to break through to the Stagg Bowl, so we know how it feels to get leveled in the playoffs. Coach Drass, the staff, team, and the College committed to becoming the best they could be. I would think MIT might  have some resources to head in that direction if they want to.

Really enjoyed watching #15  make tackles all over the field. He finished with 24 on the day. Have a great offseason, and good luck next season.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: wcrosby on November 29, 2014, 06:39:04 PM
Quote from: dedragon on November 29, 2014, 06:27:05 PM
No reason to hang any heads. Great season you guys. The playoffs are just where you find out how good the really good teams are. Wesley is still trying to break through to the Stagg Bowl, so we know how it feels to get leveled in the playoffs. Coach Drass, the staff, team, and the College committed to becoming the best they could be. I would think MIT might  have some resources to head in that direction if they want to.

Really enjoyed watching #15  make tackles all over the field. He finished with 24 on the day. Have a great offseason, and good luck next season.
According to the MIT article on d3football.com, Cam Wagar had 34 tackles -- I don't think I've ever seen a number like that before.  Cam used to be a safety, and converted to linebacker -- amazing ability.

MIT made lots of mistakes, Wesley made none.  They are so fast, and can kill you in so many ways.
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To those of you that talk about MIT acceding to doing what Wesley has -- yes, they would love to do that, but you have to do it with kids that can get into the Institute.  I don't think that Wesley or Widener, or Mt. Union or UW-Whitewater has to worry about those things -- in fact, there were many D1 recruits that have transferred on Wesley's roster.

One last thing -- according to some of the MIT players, some of the Wesley kids were asking if they could send their resumes to them during the hadshakes -- kidding of course, but still kind of funny!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rlk on November 29, 2014, 06:55:37 PM
Quote from: dedragon on November 29, 2014, 06:27:05 PM
No reason to hang any heads. Great season you guys. The playoffs are just where you find out how good the really good teams are. Wesley is still trying to break through to the Stagg Bowl, so we know how it feels to get leveled in the playoffs. Coach Drass, the staff, team, and the College committed to becoming the best they could be. I would think MIT might  have some resources to head in that direction if they want to.

Really enjoyed watching #15  make tackles all over the field. He finished with 24 on the day. Have a great offseason, and good luck next season.

Yes, Cam Wagar has been one of the anchors of our defense this season.  He's a Course II (mechanical engineering major) senior who interned last summer at Pacific Northwest National Laboratory, working on sustainability and energy management.  Has a bright future ahead of him.  Glad to see the props for him.

MIT's not going to compromise its core academic mission in any way, and none of us would want it to, but everyone at the 'tute commits to excellence in whatever endeavors they pursue.  I hear that our recruiting coach is completely swamped right now.   High school students with serious game who are equally serious about engineering (and have the academic chops) now know that they don't have to settle for the Ivy League to have the opportunity to play football at a high level.  The country has not heard the last from MIT football.

And again, congratulations to your folks.  And at least we weren't the worst loss of the day.  Sort of have to root for Hobart next week because Coach Martinovich hails from there, but I'm pretty comfortable saying that right now you're onoe of the clear three best teams in the country.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Teamski on November 29, 2014, 09:19:45 PM
A sincere congratulations to MIT on a great season.  I was really impressed by the spirit both the team and the fans displayed throughout the game today.  The fans filled our visitor's stands and were loud.  You have a lot to be proud of.

-Ski
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 29, 2014, 11:57:26 PM
Quote from: wcrosby on November 29, 2014, 06:39:04 PM

One last thing -- according to some of the MIT players, some of the Wesley kids were asking if they could send their resumes to them during the hadshakes -- kidding of course, but still kind of funny!

That's too funny - and perhaps less kidding was involved than you may think.  I know several of our kids got quite a kick out of playing against future rocket scientists.   I give all DIII student-athletes credit for putting in the time and effort needed to do well in their sport of choice, but can imagine it presents an especially large burden for students at a school like MIT.  Congratulations on a great season.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 30, 2014, 12:03:12 AM
Quote from: wcrosby on November 29, 2014, 06:39:04 PM
Quote from: dedragon on November 29, 2014, 06:27:05 PM
No reason to hang any heads. Great season you guys. The playoffs are just where you find out how good the really good teams are. Wesley is still trying to break through to the Stagg Bowl, so we know how it feels to get leveled in the playoffs. Coach Drass, the staff, team, and the College committed to becoming the best they could be. I would think MIT might  have some resources to head in that direction if they want to.

Really enjoyed watching #15  make tackles all over the field. He finished with 24 on the day. Have a great offseason, and good luck next season.
According to the MIT article on d3football.com, Cam Wagar had 34 tackles -- I don't think I've ever seen a number like that before.

The article says 24.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: wcrosby on November 30, 2014, 06:56:41 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 30, 2014, 12:03:12 AM
Quote from: wcrosby on November 29, 2014, 06:39:04 PM
Quote from: dedragon on November 29, 2014, 06:27:05 PM
No reason to hang any heads. Great season you guys. The playoffs are just where you find out how good the really good teams are. Wesley is still trying to break through to the Stagg Bowl, so we know how it feels to get leveled in the playoffs. Coach Drass, the staff, team, and the College committed to becoming the best they could be. I would think MIT might  have some resources to head in that direction if they want to.

Really enjoyed watching #15  make tackles all over the field. He finished with 24 on the day. Have a great offseason, and good luck next season.
According to the MIT article on d3football.com, Cam Wagar had 34 tackles -- I don't think I've ever seen a number like that before.

I swear -- my eyes must be getting bad...

The article says 24.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ccd494 on December 04, 2014, 10:24:01 AM
So, any room for one more?

http://www.pressherald.com/2014/12/03/are-you-ready-for-some-football-by-a-new-team-at-une/ (http://www.pressherald.com/2014/12/03/are-you-ready-for-some-football-by-a-new-team-at-une/)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on December 04, 2014, 12:01:18 PM
Quote from: ccd494 on December 04, 2014, 10:24:01 AM
So, any room for one more?

http://www.pressherald.com/2014/12/03/are-you-ready-for-some-football-by-a-new-team-at-une/ (http://www.pressherald.com/2014/12/03/are-you-ready-for-some-football-by-a-new-team-at-une/)

This is awesome that would increase the number to 9, still leaving the possibility of two OOC games, which I think is still needed to help improve the conference image and playing level.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on December 05, 2014, 02:55:56 PM
Could be the end of the NEFC.  CCC would have 6 football schools, could look to expand and bring in two schools for all sports and have a 12 team conference with 8 for football. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on December 06, 2014, 07:40:11 AM
Quote from: rlk on November 29, 2014, 06:55:37 PM
I hear that our recruiting coach is completely swamped right now.   High school students with serious game who are equally serious about engineering (and have the academic chops) now know that they don't have to settle for the Ivy League to have the opportunity to play football at a high level.  The country has not heard the last from MIT football.

So...first, I love the bravado and confidence.  With that said, let's get a few things straight here.

1. Nobody "settles" for the Ivy League, dude.  The bluster I occasionally hear (on these boards and in person) from parents and/or students of athletes at NESCAC schools, or MIT, or UAA schools saying that kids X, Y, and Z all had "offers" from the Ivy League is mostly just that - bluster, a way to try to sound more impressive, a b.  Getting a few letters, or even visiting the campus of an Ivy, and then choosing a D3 school does not mean you "turned down" the Ivy League.  I visited Columbia and met the football coaching staff before choosing Carnegie Mellon - does that mean I chose CMU instead of "settling" for Columbia?  No way.  I'd have been a blocking dummy for four years at Columbia.

There certainly are a few cases of Division III players who could have gone to a higher level and chose D3 for any number of reasons - it was the best academic fit, it was the right geographic location, they have friends and family who recommend the school, they develop a rapport with a coach or professor - but there aren't legions of high-academic-achieving football players who are "settling" for Harvard and Yale instead of going to MIT.  Come on, dude.

2. Carnegie Mellon, you might have heard, also has an engineering program and a little bit of an academic reputation.  A few years ago, we had a season nearly identical to what MIT just had - an undefeated regular season, a first-round playoff victory thanks, in part, to a favorable matchup, and a second round thrashing at the hands of Wesley.  I also became a Wesley fan that day because the stadium was cool, the fans were great, players were respectful opponents - gracious in victory, and the folks posting on here were also great. 

With that said, this season didn't lead to some magical boon in recruiting.  In the end, things were pretty much the same that they always were.  We called every kid we could find with decent SAT scores.  Some flat-out said "I'm going to Bigger School X" and we never heard from them again.  Some (like me before them) were pondering the Ivy-or-D3 decision (until that decision was effectively made for them, either by the Ivies' serious recruitment or the obvious "Well, you can come and try out for the team if you want to" attitude that manifests once they figure out who their top targets are).  Some already knew that D3 was their route to playing in college and gave us their full attention from the get-go.  The playoff berth was a nice little talking point but in reality that one season did not do very much to move the needle for most kids that I spoke with (I was a phone-caller for recruits during my junior and senior seasons).

High school students who are serious about engineering, have academic chops, and want to play college football do exist, of course.  They aren't going to come en masse to MIT because of one season.  It would/will take some sustained success to start propagating itself in terms of large numbers of Ivy-League-caliber football players - not "caliber of person" but "caliber of football player" - choosing MIT over the Ivy League.

Lest you get me wrong: I am fully rooting for MIT to carry this momentum forward, as I root for all high-caliber academic institutions.  Don't mistake my tone for antagonistic.  But it's much easier to bluster that "Now all those really good students who play football know they don't have to settle for the Ivy League" than it will be to really convince such prospects - at least, the ones the Ivy League schools really want for football - to choose MIT over the Ivy League.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on December 06, 2014, 11:10:15 AM
Tartan - Is your high school either AAAA or AAA by chance? The Philly area teams in both classes, St. Joe Prep (AAAA) and Archbishop Wood (AAA) are ridiculously good..................and I hope that someone knocks them off of their high horse. Maybe your school can knock one of them out..................unless AA or A.

The PIAA allowing these private school recruiting machines to take part in state playoffs is a joke..................and this coming from a CB West grad, from back in the days when we tore up the state ;)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ECoastFootball on December 06, 2014, 10:08:09 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on December 06, 2014, 07:40:11 AM
1. Nobody "settles" for the Ivy League, dude.  The bluster I occasionally hear (on these boards and in person) from parents and/or students of athletes at NESCAC schools, or MIT, or UAA schools saying that kids X, Y, and Z all had "offers" from the Ivy League is mostly just that - bluster,

There is a difference you are missing. All the NESCAC and UAA schools you mentioned are similar to the IVY schools, so if all things were equal you would go play the higher level. MIT, academically, is not "similar" to the IVY's. MIT is the #2 ranked university in the world: http://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/rankings?int=9cf408 and the #1 ranked engineering school in the world.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on December 08, 2014, 01:42:44 PM
Quote from: ECoastFootball on December 06, 2014, 10:08:09 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on December 06, 2014, 07:40:11 AM
1. Nobody "settles" for the Ivy League, dude.  The bluster I occasionally hear (on these boards and in person) from parents and/or students of athletes at NESCAC schools, or MIT, or UAA schools saying that kids X, Y, and Z all had "offers" from the Ivy League is mostly just that - bluster,

There is a difference you are missing. All the NESCAC and UAA schools you mentioned are similar to the IVY schools, so if all things were equal you would go play the higher level. MIT, academically, is not "similar" to the IVY's. MIT is the #2 ranked university in the world: http://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/rankings?int=9cf408 and the #1 ranked engineering school in the world.

A fair point and one that I did gloss over.  You are correct.

I stand by my point that there are probably not many kids on Ivy League football rosters who really wanted to go to MIT, but "settled" for the Ivy League school because the MIT football program wasn't competitive enough for them.  Thus, I do not expect a sudden shift in recruiting whereby prospects that harbor serious hopes for playing time in the Ivy League bypass that opportunity to play at MIT.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rlk on December 08, 2014, 09:48:18 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on December 08, 2014, 01:42:44 PM
I stand by my point that there are probably not many kids on Ivy League football rosters who really wanted to go to MIT, but "settled" for the Ivy League school because the MIT football program wasn't competitive enough for them.  Thus, I do not expect a sudden shift in recruiting whereby prospects that harbor serious hopes for playing time in the Ivy League bypass that opportunity to play at MIT.

Perhaps not as many as I'd like to think, but two of our former basketball players come to mind: Jimmy Bartolotta, who was D3 national Player of the Year in 2009 (read what he has to say: http://mitbasketball.blogspot.com/2010/02/former-mit-star-jimmy-bartolotta-talks.html) and Noel Hollingsworth, who went to Brown and transferred to MIT after a year.  There were circumstances in each case -- Bartolotta had to be coaxed by his parents to look at MIT, and Hollingsworth left Brown because the coach (Craig Robinson) decamped to Oregon.  I don't know if Bartolotta's decision would have been easier had MIT already had the success in basketball it has had over the past 6 years and I never thought to ask him about it, but reading between the lines, it might well have made his decision easier.

I suspect that really top tier Ivy prospects -- not to mention legitimate FBS prospects -- would likely take a pass unless they really, really wanted to go to MIT.  But someone who's a more marginal prospect, looking at a few years of very little playing time, might find the opportunity to be an impact player on a program that's going somewhere to be very appealing.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on December 11, 2014, 01:30:15 PM
This is why I don't get why people act all shocked that MIT made the tournament in the big media. You have a D-3 school, in one of the weaker conferences, who is able to go to D-2 and low D-1 athletes and say "Hey, you want a MIT education?" You're telling me that Curry or Endicott can step into a kids living room in Minnesota and say yeah I know you're looking at Carleton and Bemidji state, but you should come to Massachusetts to play for our D-3 school?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: wcrosby on December 11, 2014, 01:54:47 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on December 11, 2014, 01:30:15 PM
This is why I don't get why people act all shocked that MIT made the tournament in the big media. You have a D-3 school, in one of the weaker conferences, who is able to go to D-2 and low D-1 athletes and say "Hey, you want a MIT education?" You're telling me that Curry or Endicott can step into a kids living room in Minnesota and say yeah I know you're looking at Carleton and Bemidji state, but you should come to Massachusetts to play for our D-3 school?
No -- but they do that with Florida kids all of the time now.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rlk on December 11, 2014, 07:03:39 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on December 11, 2014, 01:30:15 PM
This is why I don't get why people act all shocked that MIT made the tournament in the big media. You have a D-3 school, in one of the weaker conferences, who is able to go to D-2 and low D-1 athletes and say "Hey, you want a MIT education?" You're telling me that Curry or Endicott can step into a kids living room in Minnesota and say yeah I know you're looking at Carleton and Bemidji state, but you should come to Massachusetts to play for our D-3 school?

A lot of it, of course, was the seeming novelty of nerds playing -- and being very good at -- sports.  And not just any sport, but football.  A lot of the coverage -- even the local coverage -- was superficial, albeit complimentary.  Some of it, however, really did take a closer look.  Sam Gardner's piece on Fox Sports was really, really good.  He spent a lot of time researching and understanding the program, speaking with team members and the coaching staff, and it showed.

The reality is that MIT has a very extensive athletics program -- at varsity, IM, and completely unstructured levels -- for a very long time.  25% of the undergrads play at least one varsity sport.  We regularly place very high in the Learfield Directors' Cup standings.  Our men's basketball team has had 6 straight NCAA appearances and 20 win seasons, capped by a Final Four run in 2012.  Still, even if the NEFC isn't a very strong conference and New England D3 football in general doesn't match up to the midwest, 9-0 plus a postseason win isn't something that should get taken for granted.

One thing that our coaching staff cannot do, though, is make any kind of promise of admission.  The admissions office isn't going to bend the standards for anybody, and I doubt very much that even the most hard boiled supporter of MIT athletics would want that.  That said, MIT already has far more applicants who make the academic cut than there are slots, so it comes down to what else someone can bring to the table, and that something else can certainly be athletics.  But it's still a hard limit on who we can recruit.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: JS342 on January 08, 2015, 08:52:30 PM
What is the best conference in New England? (NESCAC not eligible because who knows?)
NEFC - MASCAC or ECFC
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NED3Guy on January 22, 2015, 11:00:59 AM
Congrats to JB Wells on his new opportunity at Bowdoin. He'd done a terrific job at Endicott and literally built the program to where it now stands.

"Where it now stands" brings up the question of where the EC administration looks for the new leadership of the program. With two relatively young first year coordinators having just come in last year, one assumes they'll have to bring somebody in.

Any thoughts or rumors circulating close to the program? 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ITH radio on February 24, 2015, 09:08:34 PM
Endicott couldn't have hired a better guy than Coach DeWall.

I'm surprised they got him honestly, especially after his grooming a future NFL draft pick, but am excited for Coach and the EC fan base.

He's going to do to great things in Beverly.

http://hwsathletics.com/news/2015/2/24/HFB_0224154932.aspx
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on February 25, 2015, 01:28:15 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on February 24, 2015, 09:08:34 PM
Endicott couldn't have hired a better guy than Coach DeWall.

I'm surprised they got him honestly, especially after his grooming a future NFL draft pick, but am excited for Coach and the EC fan base.

He's going to do to great things in Beverly.

http://hwsathletics.com/news/2015/2/24/HFB_0224154932.aspx

Indeed a great hire. They need someone of this caliber to keep the program going in the right direction, which I think Coach DeWall will do.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 08, 2015, 12:08:40 PM
The NEFC is going to look a little different in 2017. For now, it'll look a lot like the Commonwealth Coast Conference: 
http://www.d3football.com/notables/2015/04/newmac-adds-football
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on June 01, 2015, 05:51:53 PM
The CCC commisoner just took over as the NEFC commissioner. Looks like to me that the CCC is going to abosrb the NEFC. If that's the case I'll stick with my original prediction of the league inviting a former member like Anna Maria back in.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on June 02, 2015, 07:59:04 PM
The CCC?  Do you mean the ECFC?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on June 06, 2015, 10:45:53 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on June 02, 2015, 07:59:04 PM
The CCC?  Do you mean the ECFC?

No, Kaye's been head of the CCC for awhile.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on June 07, 2015, 06:08:05 AM
Anna Maria has only been in the ECFC.....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NED3Guy on June 07, 2015, 12:01:41 PM
I think there's some confusion....

All of the schools who will remain in the nefc are also members of he CCC for their other sports. The hiring of the CCC comish plus UNE starting football lead many to believe that the CCC will sponsor football / take over the ecfc.

Anna Maria used to play all their non football sports in the CCC....would the CCC try to get Anna Maria to come back into the conference, to ensure an AQ for football?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on June 07, 2015, 11:06:29 PM
Quote from: NED3Guy on June 07, 2015, 12:01:41 PM
I think there's some confusion....

All of the schools who will remain in the nefc are also members of he CCC for their other sports. The hiring of the CCC comish plus UNE starting football lead many to believe that the CCC will sponsor football / take over the ecfc.

Anna Maria used to play all their non football sports in the CCC....would the CCC try to get Anna Maria to come back into the conference, to ensure an AQ for football?

This is what I was getting at. NEFC turns into the CCC, the CCC adds a former member like Anna Maria for all sports to get the magic number for football.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on August 05, 2015, 03:57:55 PM
I think Endicott did really well with their scheduling this year, looking forward to the first 3 weeks of the season. Also, Salve Regina finished very strong, looking forward to them building upon that success.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3pc on August 05, 2015, 06:45:07 PM
^^ Will be very telling of how good Endicott will be this year. Framingham, Hobart, St Lawrence went a combined 30-4 last  year. Losses of Frenette and Lewis on offense will hurt, but new staff and a disappointing season could have the Gulls right back in the mix of it this season.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on August 12, 2015, 01:44:05 PM
It'll be interesting to see if we get a repeat winner out of the MIT/Endicott/Salve/WNE group of if someone comes in to keep the different winner each year trend going
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on August 12, 2015, 02:28:11 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on August 12, 2015, 01:44:05 PM
It'll be interesting to see if we get a repeat winner out of the MIT/Endicott/Salve/WNE group of if someone comes in to keep the different winner each year trend going

Maybe Curry or Coast Guard can get back to the good ole days like the mid to late 00's. However, Coast Guard played its conference opponents really well in the previous year, but I got beat by two awesome OOC opponents. But, Curry did finish 3-0 to end the season, while ending WNEC chance of reaching the playoffs.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on September 04, 2015, 12:54:54 PM
dlip watched the Coast Guard game last night. They looked pretty decent. Congrats on the W!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 07, 2015, 03:18:38 PM
Endicott was outmatched this past weekend against Framingham State, the game was a mirror version of the 2012 matchup, except in the favor of the RAMS and the RAMS not throwing 5 interceptions, but either throwing touchdowns and putting the team in position. Hopefully Endicott can rebound these next couple weeks, hopefully stealing one from either Hobart or St. Lawrence.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan142511 on September 16, 2015, 09:15:19 AM
Game Week Predictions and Power Rankings

1. WNEC
2. Salve
3. Endicott
4. Coast Guard
5. Nichols
6. MIT
7. Maine

Becker at Nichols- Becker wins 24-17
MIT at RPI- RPI 45-21
Castleton at Salve - Salve wins (score posted in ECFC Page)
Mass at Maine- Mass wins big
Coast Guard at Catholic- Catholic 35-14
Union at WNEC- WNEC 45-21
Endicott at St. Lawerence- St. Lawerence 42-28
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on September 16, 2015, 09:39:03 PM
MIT below Nichols is ridiculous
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on September 16, 2015, 10:01:40 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on September 16, 2015, 09:39:03 PM
MIT below Nichols is ridiculous

Perhaps, but certainly no more ridiculous than Becker 37, MIT 26.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan142511 on September 17, 2015, 08:21:06 AM
When you lose to Becker you drop ....let's see how Nichols does this week they will play Becker also to justify who is where in the rankings
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NED3Guy on September 18, 2015, 10:30:41 PM
Becker over Nichols. 24-14
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on September 19, 2015, 08:40:25 AM
Quote from: NED3Guy on September 18, 2015, 10:30:41 PM
Becker over Nichols. 24-14
So Nichols is one point better than MIT. Case closed.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on September 20, 2015, 10:12:41 PM
Quote from: AUPepBand on September 19, 2015, 08:40:25 AM
Quote from: NED3Guy on September 18, 2015, 10:30:41 PM
Becker over Nichols. 24-14
So Nichols is one point better than MIT. Case closed.

I stand corrected  :)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on September 20, 2015, 10:19:53 PM
And to be fair to the new guy, I'll post my rankings

First tier
1. WNE
2. Salve
3. Endicott

Second tier
4. MIT
5. Coast Guard

Third tier
6. Nichols
7. Maine Martime
8. Curry
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan142511 on September 22, 2015, 02:19:07 PM
6-1 on Picks this week. Missed on the Maritime game. Funny how sports works. SUNY Beats up on Maine ...Gets Crushed By Mass Then Mass and Maine play and Maine wins a shootout.

Power Rankings: Like Jackson said it really is a 3 team race (Personally I think the title is between Salve or WNE) Teams 4-8 are really bad this year

Top Tier
1. WNE
2. Salve
Middle of Pack

3. Endicott

Bottom Tier
Nichols/MIT/Coast Guard/Maine/Curry
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on September 25, 2015, 09:34:57 AM
Conference schedule starts this week. Not a great batch of games, onlyou close one is gonna be salve vs Coast Guard

Friday: WNE at Curry- taking WNE
Saturday: Maine Maritime at MIT- MIT
Endicott at Nichols- Endicott
Salve at Coast Guard- Salve
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan142511 on September 25, 2015, 09:45:54 AM
WNE at Curry- WNE 42-10
Maine Maritime at MIT- I think this game will be pretty close. I am going to go with the semi upset here Maine 35-31
Endicott at Nichols- Endicott- 38-7
Salve at Coast Guard- Salve 28-7
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on September 25, 2015, 10:45:08 AM
You're selling MIT short. Atomic ratings have them as a 17 point favorite. While they aren't the elite team we expected they are still a notch above the bottom.
http://www.al.com/atomic-football/index.ssf?d3-predictions
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 25, 2015, 02:21:25 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on September 25, 2015, 10:45:08 AM
You're selling MIT short. Atomic ratings have them as a 17 point favorite. While they aren't the elite team we expected they are still a notch above the bottom.
http://www.al.com/atomic-football/index.ssf?d3-predictions


MIT is not good. They are back at the bottom of the Conference.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 25, 2015, 02:32:24 PM
Also quick point about Admiral Cup. That game is extremely underrated and you can truly throw the records out when those two play. Even back in Maine's hey day, which was when MASS Maritime had some pretty lousy teams, the games were extremely close. I hate trying to evaluate either team after that game because they play each other pretty tough, regardless of their end of year records.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on September 25, 2015, 04:07:48 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on September 25, 2015, 02:21:25 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on September 25, 2015, 10:45:08 AM
You're selling MIT short. Atomic ratings have them as a 17 point favorite. While they aren't the elite team we expected they are still a notch above the bottom.
http://www.al.com/atomic-football/index.ssf?d3-predictions


MIT is not good. They are back at the bottom of the Conference.

There's a difference between being not good and putrid. They'll finish midpack and will be behind the big 3,  but they are still a level above the Nichols and Curry's
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on September 26, 2015, 04:29:56 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on September 25, 2015, 09:34:57 AM
Conference schedule starts this week. Not a great batch of games, onlyou close one is gonna be salve vs Coast Guard

Friday: WNE at Curry- taking WNE
Saturday: Maine Maritime at MIT- MIT
Endicott at Nichols- Endicott
Salve at Coast Guard- Salve

3 out of 4. Told you guys MIT was still way above Maine Maritime
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on September 26, 2015, 04:34:05 PM
For next week, I got it handicapped at.

MIT @ Endicott -4.5
Coast Guard -13.5 @Maine Maritime
Nichols @ WNE -34.5
Curry @ Salve -21.5
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on September 26, 2015, 04:49:40 PM
Dlip has watched MIT play twice. He believes they are a decent team with some talent. He believes they will do well within the league this season.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 27, 2015, 01:52:16 PM
Just went through the recap and box score of the Salve vs. Coast Guard game. Although a great win for Coast Guard, I don't think this win helps the conference all that much, it appears that Salve gave this one away. One thing that stood out for me were the penalties from Salve (12-140) to Coast Guard (4-42).
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on September 27, 2015, 07:34:17 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on September 27, 2015, 01:52:16 PM
Just went through the recap and box score of the Salve vs. Coast Guard game. Although a great win for Coast Guard, I don't think this win helps the conference all that much, it appears that Salve gave this one away. One thing that stood out for me were the penalties from Salve (12-140) to Coast Guard (4-42).

I caught apiece of the 4th, it looked like Salve was the better team. I agree it's not a good thing for the league. Was really hoping that Salve and WNE would be undefeated when they faced each other in conference play. It looks like WNE is the only one left that would have a shot at being ranked ahead of the MASCAC winner when it's time to do the bracket
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan142511 on September 30, 2015, 09:46:35 AM
2-2 this week. Shocked by the Salve vs Coast Guard Score. I watched Coast Guard Week 1 and they did not look so impressive over Anna Maria. Must have been week 1 growing pains.

This division this year very very bad and a team like MIT/Coast Guard can finish in the top 3. Will be interesting to see how they match up against Endicott. WNEC might run away with conference and this conference after them is very comparable to the ECFC.

Week 4 Power Rankings:
1. WNEC- Clear Top Team
2. Endicott
3. Coast Guard
4. Salve
5. MIT
6. Maine
7. Curry
8. Nichols
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan142511 on September 30, 2015, 10:03:34 AM
Week 5 Predictions:

Coast Guard vs Maine- HUGE HUGE Game for Coast Guard they win this game they could be 4-0 in conference going into WNEC. Coast Guard wins 31-28

Curry vs Salve- Salve bounces back wins 31-14

Nichols vs WNEC- WNEC BIG 45-7

MIT vs Endicott- Endicott by a FG 24-21
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 30, 2015, 10:14:52 AM
WNEC is solid, but still from an overall perspective of New England football, I don't think we have a team that will win a playoff game from either league. The only hope is that Husson wins the ECFC again and causes a massive logjam because of travel restrictions, where either Framingham or WNEC gets a favorable matchup. Personally I hate seeing it work out that way, it doesn't make the New England schools any better and it makes a second round game potentially a second round bye. No offense to MIT, but that was what they were to Wesley last year. But there is A LOT of football left to be played.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NED3Guy on September 30, 2015, 12:44:02 PM
The Husson ECFC AQ log jam is a high likelihood again as they appear to be well above the other ECFC teams (this weekend vs Castleton will tell a lot though).

I saw a poster on another thread lay out the distances from potential AQ teams, to Bangor Maine and the only non-new england playoff type team (if you can even call them that) is St. Lawrence with Canton NY being only 402 miles from Bangor.

So New England football fans either root like hell for St. Lawrence (to avoid the MIT v Husson type first round game); or we root like hell for Hobart so the NCAA will have little choice but to give us an all new england first round game....or I guess, we can all root for Castleton or Norwich to win the ECFC and make travel to Husson irrelevant.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MASCACAlum on September 30, 2015, 12:54:17 PM
Aren't you forgetting about the MASCAC AQ this year??
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NED3Guy on September 30, 2015, 03:59:06 PM
I was forgetting about that! 100% slipped my mind.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3pc on September 30, 2015, 07:24:38 PM
Quote from: NED3Guy on September 30, 2015, 12:44:02 PM
The Husson ECFC AQ log jam is a high likelihood again as they appear to be well above the other ECFC teams (this weekend vs Castleton will tell a lot though).

I saw a poster on another thread lay out the distances from potential AQ teams, to Bangor Maine and the only non-new england playoff type team (if you can even call them that) is St. Lawrence with Canton NY being only 402 miles from Bangor.

So New England football fans either root like hell for St. Lawrence (to avoid the MIT v Husson type first round game); or we root like hell for Hobart so the NCAA will have little choice but to give us an all new england first round game....or I guess, we can all root for Castleton or Norwich to win the ECFC and make travel to Husson irrelevant.

That was me! and yes i forgot about that too until a few posts later. Let's not forget WNE seems like the front runner for the NEFC. Hypothetically, lets have Husson, Framingham, WNE, St Lawrence, Ithaca, Wesley, Rowan, and Cortland. Again, Hypothetical, no one get there undies in a bunch. This would leave many more options than the dreaded MIT-Husson matchup. The NCAA does however factor in costs. Hence the 500 mile limit in round 1 (except if impossible). It won't be a simple 1-8 1 plays 8 2 plays 7 etc.

All i was saying is, I think it would be great for the east and very telling if we could have something like a Husson-SLU, Framingham-Ithaca, WNE-Rowan kind of thing.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on September 30, 2015, 11:10:35 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on September 30, 2015, 10:14:52 AM
WNEC is solid, but still from an overall perspective of New England football, I don't think we have a team that will win a playoff game from either league. The only hope is that Husson wins the ECFC again and causes a massive logjam because of travel restrictions, where either Framingham or WNEC gets a favorable matchup. Personally I hate seeing it work out that way, it doesn't make the New England schools any better and it makes a second round game potentially a second round bye. No offense to MIT, but that was what they were to Wesley last year. But there is A LOT of football left to be played.

Theyre good enough to beat Multiple NCAA teams, unfortunately they'll probably get a top 10 team that would give them little chance of keeping it close. If they could get a Hobart or Cortland then they'd have a shot at an upset,  but I don't think there's many conferences below the NEFC which means the champ will be going to Rowan or John  Hopkins.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 01, 2015, 08:41:28 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on September 30, 2015, 11:10:35 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on September 30, 2015, 10:14:52 AM
WNEC is solid, but still from an overall perspective of New England football, I don't think we have a team that will win a playoff game from either league. The only hope is that Husson wins the ECFC again and causes a massive logjam because of travel restrictions, where either Framingham or WNEC gets a favorable matchup. Personally I hate seeing it work out that way, it doesn't make the New England schools any better and it makes a second round game potentially a second round bye. No offense to MIT, but that was what they were to Wesley last year. But there is A LOT of football left to be played.

Theyre good enough to beat Multiple NCAA teams, unfortunately they'll probably get a top 10 team that would give them little chance of keeping it close. If they could get a Hobart or Cortland then they'd have a shot at an upset,  but I don't think there's many conferences below the NEFC which means the champ will be going to Rowan or John  Hopkins.

I'm curious, out of the top ten in the east, which teams are you confident WNEC could beat in the playoffs?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 01, 2015, 11:54:52 AM
I could see maybe upsetting Hobart, but not Cortland right now. Also WNEC is going to get a good seed in the East where they could play the Liberty League champ as the home team. WNEC should roll through the rest of the NEFC if they are as good as you think they are. Of all the teams in New England, they have the best shot at getting a playoff win because they have the best chance at running the table and getting a favorable matchup.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on October 01, 2015, 12:24:19 PM
dlip watched (albeit painstakingly) his beloved Dutchmen get manhandled by the Golden Bears two weeks ago. dlip was quite impressed with WNEU and feels they have some real talent on offense. He would like to see them run the table in the NEFC (which he thinks they will do) and believes that if they can do that, they have a good shot at taking down the eventual LL champ (if that matchup happens) no matter who it is. dlip doesn't think WNEU is a world beater by any means but they ARE CERTAINLY a good football team and he wishes them the best.

Random ****ing thought below


Right now he thinks WNEU and RPI would be a very interesting match-up. dlip is high on the Engineers as well and would like to see this game played
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bman on October 01, 2015, 01:03:00 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 01, 2015, 11:54:52 AM
I could see maybe upsetting Hobart, but not Cortland right now. Also WNEC is going to get a good seed in the East where they could play the Liberty League champ as the home team. WNEC should roll through the rest of the NEFC if they are as good as you think they are. Of all the teams in New England, they have the best shot at getting a playoff win because they have the best chance at running the table and getting a favorable matchup.

I just don't see anything other than a seeding that would have them playing anyone other than a 1 or 2 seed, unless the 500 mile rule comes into play.  There just is no strength of schedule power or a signature win available in their schedule...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bombers798891 on October 01, 2015, 01:56:28 PM
Quote from: bman on October 01, 2015, 01:03:00 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 01, 2015, 11:54:52 AM
I could see maybe upsetting Hobart, but not Cortland right now. Also WNEC is going to get a good seed in the East where they could play the Liberty League champ as the home team. WNEC should roll through the rest of the NEFC if they are as good as you think they are. Of all the teams in New England, they have the best shot at getting a playoff win because they have the best chance at running the table and getting a favorable matchup.

I just don't see anything other than a seeding that would have them playing anyone other than a 1 or 2 seed, unless the 500 mile rule comes into play.  There just is no strength of schedule power or a signature win available in their schedule...

Yeah, and the trouble is, we're likely to get one of two scenarios:

1. A 500-mile game pitting them against another NE school or
2. A matchup with a team that is probably way out of their weightclass (like Wesley)

Neither really tells us much. Something like Ithaca/Cortland/Rowan/Hobart/St. Lawrence would give us a chance to really evaluate where they stand.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 01, 2015, 02:38:25 PM
Quote from: bman on October 01, 2015, 01:03:00 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 01, 2015, 11:54:52 AM
I could see maybe upsetting Hobart, but not Cortland right now. Also WNEC is going to get a good seed in the East where they could play the Liberty League champ as the home team. WNEC should roll through the rest of the NEFC if they are as good as you think they are. Of all the teams in New England, they have the best shot at getting a playoff win because they have the best chance at running the table and getting a favorable matchup.

I just don't see anything other than a seeding that would have them playing anyone other than a 1 or 2 seed, unless the 500 mile rule comes into play.  There just is no strength of schedule power or a signature win available in their schedule...

Disagree with this respectfully. SUNY Martime ran the table in the ECFC and was a 3 seed with no signature win. Framingham has been as high as a 4 seed with an in season loss before to a fellow New England school. Framingham a fellow New England school has also gotten a POOL B spot. All of this without a signature win, which has been brought up many times on these boards. I'm just saying that if WNEU runs the table, there is a good chance they get a 3-4 seed and possibly a home playoff game.

Framingham the favorite in the MASCAC already lost to Cortland. Husson has a lost to Alfred. The MAC looks like the champ could have 1-2 losses. The Empire 8's top two teams are Cortland vs Ithaca (which as we know in that conference could change by next week) and one of them is guaranteed a loss since they play each other the last week of the year. Hobart, the top dog in the Liberty League already has a loss, even if its to a good Ithaca team as well.

Point being, WNEC is going to finish undefeated and will do it in pretty easy fashion most likely, I think they will be rewarded with a seed that doesn't have them going to Wesley. Husson on Framingham for that matter, well good luck to you guys.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bman on October 01, 2015, 02:58:12 PM
Fair enough...

So let's look at this a different way.  If the season were to end now (and yes I know this will be different even 2 weeks from now)...but let's just say that we ended now...the regional fan poll would look like this...

1   Wesley ( 7 )         Pool A   NJAC Champ
2   Ithaca                  Pool A   E8 Champ
3   Rowan                 Pool A   NJAC champ
4   Cortland State      Pool C   
6t  Albright              Pool A MAC Champ
6t  Hobart                 Pool A  LL Champ
6t  Stevenson            no bid
8   Salisbury             no bid
9   Alfred                   no bid
10t Brockport State        no bid
10t Western New England      Pool A NEFC Champ
NR Framingham St                Pool A   MASCAC
NR Husson            Pool A  ECFC

Now knowing that regional SOS rankings matter, the ranking would look like this (now keep in mind that I am too lazy to run real SOS simulation, so I used 2014...)   If they are remotely similar, regionally they would be ranked like this:
                                                                                    2014 SOS ranking
1   Wesley ( 7 )              Pool A   NJAC Champ                   2
2   Rowan                        Pool A   NJAC champ                     17
3    Ithaca                       Pool A   E8 Champ                       37
NR Framingham St         Pool A   MASCAC                           46
4   Cortland State           Pool C                                           105
6t  Hobart                       Pool A  LL Champ                      130
10t Western New England   Pool A NEFC Champ                    180
NR Husson                     Pool A  ECFC                              221

Now adding mileage:  (I used Husson as the furthest point)

Team                                                                Distance    2014 SOS ranking
1   Wesley ( 7 )         Pool A   NJAC Champ                     610           2
2   Ithaca                 Pool A   E8 Champ                     561      37
3   Rowan                 Pool A   NJAC champ                546      17
4   Cortland State      Pool C                                      554      105
6t  Albright         Pool A MAC Champ                             572      168
6t  Hobart                 Pool A  LL Champ                            589      130
10t Western New England   Pool A NEFC Champ                315      180
NR Framingham St             Pool A   MASCAC                   259      46
NR Husson          Pool A  ECFC                                                      221

So in this scenario

Round 1

It's logical to move Albright to South Region

Then

Husson @ WNE
Hobart @ Wesley
Cortland St @ Rowan
Framingham St @ Ithaca

Unless Husson is moved to another region there will never be the matchups you guys want.   

Regional seeds are a math exercise  WNEC's OOC games are against teams that will likely end with losing records (although I haven't looked at OOP records...), it wont help much
WNEC was ranked 180 and Husson 221 in regional ranking SOS.  No way either gets a higher seed.   Framingham St playing Cortland helps them immensely...

Don't get me wrong, I have no agenda or bias against any team coming out of the ECFC or the NEFC, but the math doesn't support them being any higher than the bottom 2 of the regional ranking...







Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 01, 2015, 03:08:25 PM
Quote from: bman on October 01, 2015, 02:58:12 PM
Fair enough...

So let's look at this a different way.  If the season were to end now (and yes I know this will be different even 2 weeks from now)...but let's just say that we ended now...the regional fan poll would look like this...

1   Wesley ( 7 )         Pool A   NJAC Champ
2   Ithaca                      Pool A   E8 Champ
3   Rowan                 Pool A   NJAC champ
4   Cortland State      Pool C   
6t  Albright         Pool A MAC Champ
6t  Hobart                 Pool A  LL Champ
6t  Stevenson         no bid
8   Salisbury         no bid
9   Alfred                 no bid
10t Brockport State      no bid
10t Western New England   Pool A NEFC Champ
NR Framingham St             Pool A   MASCAC
NR Husson          Pool A  ECFC

Now knowing that regional SOS rankings matter, the ranking would look like this (now keep in mind that I am too lazy to run real SOS simulation, so I used 2014...)   If they are remotely similar, regionally they would be ranked like this:

1   Wesley ( 7 )              Pool A   NJAC Champ                          2
2   Rowan                 Pool A   NJAC champ             17
3    Ithaca                 Pool A   E8 Champ            37
NR Framingham St             Pool A   MASCAC            46
4   Cortland State           Pool C                          105
6t  Hobart                 Pool A  LL Champ             130
10t Western New England   Pool A NEFC Champ            180
NR Husson          Pool A  ECFC               221

Now adding mileage:  (I used Husson as the furthest point)

Team                                       Distance    2014 SOS ranking
1   Wesley ( 7 )         Pool A   NJAC Champ          610           2
2   Ithaca                 Pool A   E8 Champ      561      37
3   Rowan                 Pool A   NJAC champ      546      17
4   Cortland State      Pool C                    554      105
6t  Albright         Pool A MAC Champ       572      168
6t  Hobart                 Pool A  LL Champ       589      130
10t Western New England   Pool A NEFC Champ      315      180
NR Framingham St             Pool A   MASCAC      259      46
NR Husson          Pool A  ECFC               221

So in this scenario

Round 1

It's logical to move Albright to South Region

Then

Husson @ WNE
Hobart @ Wesley
Cortland St @ Rowan
Framingham St @ Ithaca

Unless Husson is moved to another region there will never be the matchups you guys want.   

Regional seeds are a math exercise  WNEC's OOC games are against teams that will likely end with losing records (although I haven't looked at OOP records...), it wont help much
WNEC was ranked 180 and Husson 221 in regional ranking SOS.  No way either gets a higher seed.   Framingham St playing Cortland helps them immensely...

Don't get me wrong, I have no agenda or bias against any team coming out of the ECFC or the NEFC, but the math doesn't support them being any higher than the bottom 2 of the regional ranking...









Fair Enough...

I see your point. Good work. +k
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 01, 2015, 08:00:30 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 01, 2015, 08:41:28 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on September 30, 2015, 11:10:35 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on September 30, 2015, 10:14:52 AM
WNEC is solid, but still from an overall perspective of New England football, I don't think we have a team that will win a playoff game from either league. The only hope is that Husson wins the ECFC again and causes a massive logjam because of travel restrictions, where either Framingham or WNEC gets a favorable matchup. Personally I hate seeing it work out that way, it doesn't make the New England schools any better and it makes a second round game potentially a second round bye. No offense to MIT, but that was what they were to Wesley last year. But there is A LOT of football left to be played.

Theyre good enough to beat Multiple NCAA teams, unfortunately they'll probably get a top 10 team that would give them little chance of keeping it close. If they could get a Hobart or Cortland then they'd have a shot at an upset,  but I don't think there's many conferences below the NEFC which means the champ will be going to Rowan or John  Hopkins.

I'm curious, out of the top ten in the east, which teams are you confident WNEC could beat in the playoffs?

As in be the favorite?  None. But I could see them giving Alfred,  Salisbury, Brockport all fits and keeping it within a one score game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 01, 2015, 08:07:02 PM
Quote from: bman on October 01, 2015, 02:58:12 PM
Fair enough...

So let's look at this a different way.  If the season were to end now (and yes I know this will be different even 2 weeks from now)...but let's just say that we ended now...the regional fan poll would look like this...

1   Wesley ( 7 )         Pool A   NJAC Champ
2   Ithaca                  Pool A   E8 Champ
3   Rowan                 Pool A   NJAC champ
4   Cortland State      Pool C   
6t  Albright              Pool A MAC Champ
6t  Hobart                 Pool A  LL Champ
6t  Stevenson            no bid
8   Salisbury             no bid
9   Alfred                   no bid
10t Brockport State        no bid
10t Western New England      Pool A NEFC Champ
NR Framingham St                Pool A   MASCAC
NR Husson            Pool A  ECFC

Now knowing that regional SOS rankings matter, the ranking would look like this (now keep in mind that I am too lazy to run real SOS simulation, so I used 2014...)   If they are remotely similar, regionally they would be ranked like this:
                                                                                    2014 SOS ranking
1   Wesley ( 7 )              Pool A   NJAC Champ                   2
2   Rowan                        Pool A   NJAC champ                     17
3    Ithaca                       Pool A   E8 Champ                       37
NR Framingham St         Pool A   MASCAC                           46
4   Cortland State           Pool C                                           105
6t  Hobart                       Pool A  LL Champ                      130
10t Western New England   Pool A NEFC Champ                    180
NR Husson                     Pool A  ECFC                              221

Now adding mileage:  (I used Husson as the furthest point)

Team                                                                Distance    2014 SOS ranking
1   Wesley ( 7 )         Pool A   NJAC Champ                     610           2
2   Ithaca                 Pool A   E8 Champ                     561      37
3   Rowan                 Pool A   NJAC champ                546      17
4   Cortland State      Pool C                                      554      105
6t  Albright         Pool A MAC Champ                             572      168
6t  Hobart                 Pool A  LL Champ                            589      130
10t Western New England   Pool A NEFC Champ                315      180
NR Framingham St             Pool A   MASCAC                   259      46
NR Husson          Pool A  ECFC                                                      221

So in this scenario

Round 1

It's logical to move Albright to South Region

Then

Husson @ WNE
Hobart @ Wesley
Cortland St @ Rowan
Framingham St @ Ithaca

Unless Husson is moved to another region there will never be the matchups you guys want.   

Regional seeds are a math exercise  WNEC's OOC games are against teams that will likely end with losing records (although I haven't looked at OOP records...), it wont help much
WNEC was ranked 180 and Husson 221 in regional ranking SOS.  No way either gets a higher seed.   Framingham St playing Cortland helps them immensely...

Don't get me wrong, I have no agenda or bias against any team coming out of the ECFC or the NEFC, but the math doesn't support them being any higher than the bottom 2 of the regional ranking...

That's how I view it to. Had Endicott beaten FSU then it might  be different. An undefeated WNE is getting one of the worst seeds with the only shot at a home game being if Husson gets in.

For dlip, I wish that WNE made a contract with RPI instead of union a few years back instead of doing the scrimmages with them. While the first game was great the last two hasn't done anything for WNE. The rise of RPI and WNE are synchronized so a match up of them would be a good to watch these last few years.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 02, 2015, 09:20:21 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 01, 2015, 08:00:30 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 01, 2015, 08:41:28 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on September 30, 2015, 11:10:35 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on September 30, 2015, 10:14:52 AM
WNEC is solid, but still from an overall perspective of New England football, I don't think we have a team that will win a playoff game from either league. The only hope is that Husson wins the ECFC again and causes a massive logjam because of travel restrictions, where either Framingham or WNEC gets a favorable matchup. Personally I hate seeing it work out that way, it doesn't make the New England schools any better and it makes a second round game potentially a second round bye. No offense to MIT, but that was what they were to Wesley last year. But there is A LOT of football left to be played.

Theyre good enough to beat Multiple NCAA teams, unfortunately they'll probably get a top 10 team that would give them little chance of keeping it close. If they could get a Hobart or Cortland then they'd have a shot at an upset,  but I don't think there's many conferences below the NEFC which means the champ will be going to Rowan or John  Hopkins.

I'm curious, out of the top ten in the east, which teams are you confident WNEC could beat in the playoffs?

As in be the favorite?  None. But I could see them giving Alfred,  Salisbury, Brockport all fits and keeping it within a one score game.

WNEC has been to the NCAA in recent memory, and this has been their best start historically against perceived tougher competition than what they face in the NEFC. WNEC can't be thinking about keeping within a score of those teams, as I think all the teams you mentioned are ECAC teams, they should be confident in beating those teams.

I'm just high on WNEC because I think they are the best overall New England team after taking a better look at them. They are more balanced than Framingham, and boast a much better defense and special teams play to this point. Framingham has come really close to knocking off the E8 and NJAC champs in the playoffs, but really were one dimensional team offensively with Van Alstyne at back. WNEC has the look of a team that can run the ball and pass the ball. If they can develop some consistent QB play (It looks like 3 different kids have had meaningful snaps), this team could be very dangerous for anyone not named Wesley.

Does anyone know what is going on with their QB situation. It looks like all three are dual threat kids, but it seems like presumed starter Ward is hurt? Does anyone have any idea?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on October 02, 2015, 12:29:03 PM
QuoteFor dlip, I wish that WNE made a contract with RPI instead of union a few years back instead of doing the scrimmages with them. While the first game was great the last two hasn't done anything for WNE. The rise of RPI and WNE are synchronized so a match up of them would be a good to watch these last few years.

dlip hears you jackson and in one way this shows how things have changed and continue to change in the East. dlip thinks it was a good move by WNEU to schedule the Dutch (considering it was probably agreed upon 4-5 years ago. Even then Union still had a sliver of their previous reputation and it certainly looked like when WNEU agreed to play Union they were scheduling up. With that said it certainly has not worked out for WNEU as Union has...well we all know  :'(. The past two seasons especially have been like ****ing warm up games for the Golden Bears. dlip is happy for them and like he said before wishes them the best and likes them a lot.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 04, 2015, 12:29:55 AM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 02, 2015, 09:20:21 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 01, 2015, 08:00:30 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 01, 2015, 08:41:28 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on September 30, 2015, 11:10:35 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on September 30, 2015, 10:14:52 AM
WNEC is solid, but still from an overall perspective of New England football, I don't think we have a team that will win a playoff game from either league. The only hope is that Husson wins the ECFC again and causes a massive logjam because of travel restrictions, where either Framingham or WNEC gets a favorable matchup. Personally I hate seeing it work out that way, it doesn't make the New England schools any better and it makes a second round game potentially a second round bye. No offense to MIT, but that was what they were to Wesley last year. But there is A LOT of football left to be played.

Theyre good enough to beat Multiple NCAA teams, unfortunately they'll probably get a top 10 team that would give them little chance of keeping it close. If they could get a Hobart or Cortland then they'd have a shot at an upset,  but I don't think there's many conferences below the NEFC which means the champ will be going to Rowan or John  Hopkins.

I'm curious, out of the top ten in the east, which teams are you confident WNEC could beat in the playoffs?

As in be the favorite?  None. But I could see them giving Alfred,  Salisbury, Brockport all fits and keeping it within a one score game.

WNEC has been to the NCAA in recent memory, and this has been their best start historically against perceived tougher competition than what they face in the NEFC. WNEC can't be thinking about keeping within a score of those teams, as I think all the teams you mentioned are ECAC teams, they should be confident in beating those teams.

I'm just high on WNEC because I think they are the best overall New England team after taking a better look at them. They are more balanced than Framingham, and boast a much better defense and special teams play to this point. Framingham has come really close to knocking off the E8 and NJAC champs in the playoffs, but really were one dimensional team offensively with Van Alstyne at back. WNEC has the look of a team that can run the ball and pass the ball. If they can develop some consistent QB play (It looks like 3 different kids have had meaningful snaps), this team could be very dangerous for anyone not named Wesley.

Does anyone know what is going on with their QB situation. It looks like all three are dual threat kids, but it seems like presumed starter Ward is hurt? Does anyone have any idea?

I was just responding to the question about east region top 10 going off the fan poll. Basically I think they would finish top 3 in leagues like the liberty and E8. While they aren't at the point where they could knock off the number 6 team in the nation which is the matchup they faced last time they were in the tournament,  they are way above the stereotypical level of an NEFC team where they are just  a first round bye for whatever their opponent is because the only other leagues they'd be able to compete in are the MASCAC and ECFC. But without looking at the standings to see which team would be in right now, they'd give the NCAA teams who are ranked in the high teens and twenties issues in a  game. Which is a lot better than what the NEFC used to be.

For the QB situation,

Ward is number 1. Got injured in the Springfield game after he was left in for one drive too long. He fought injuries all year last year so team shut him down until conference play, then even now the first sign of a blow out they are pulling him to avoid risking another injury.

Peabody is a senior and was supposed to be the starter last year. Had preseason injuries and missed the first few games. By the time he got healthy ward won the job. He was a dual threat, the injuries throughout his career has hurt his conditioning so he's put on a few  pounds and is more of a pocket guy now.

Service is a sophomore QB. Not quite as good of an arm as Peabody but better scrambling abilities. He and Peabody are about at the same level, so when wards out WNE has been alternating them to see who the hot hand is. In Westfield it was Peabody, vs Union and Curry it was Service.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 04, 2015, 12:32:20 AM
Quote from: dlip on October 02, 2015, 12:29:03 PM
QuoteFor dlip, I wish that WNE made a contract with RPI instead of union a few years back instead of doing the scrimmages with them. While the first game was great the last two hasn't done anything for WNE. The rise of RPI and WNE are synchronized so a match up of them would be a good to watch these last few years.

dlip hears you jackson and in one way this shows how things have changed and continue to change in the East. dlip thinks it was a good move by WNEU to schedule the Dutch (considering it was probably agreed upon 4-5 years ago. Even then Union still had a sliver of their previous reputation and it certainly looked like when WNEU agreed to play Union they were scheduling up. With that said it certainly has not worked out for WNEU as Union has...well we all know  :'(. The past two seasons especially have been like ****ing warm up games for the Golden Bears. dlip is happy for them and like he said before wishes them the best and likes them a lot.

Don't get me wrong, when the contract was announced I loved the move. Having two Liberty league teams on the schedule instead of a ECFC and MASCAC team seemed like a no brainer. Unfortunately for WNE the two liberty league teams have been down.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 04, 2015, 12:35:15 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on September 26, 2015, 04:34:05 PM
For next week, I got it handicapped at.

MIT @ Endicott -4.5
Coast Guard -13.5 @Maine Maritime
Nichols @ WNE -34.5
Curry @ Salve -21.5
4-0, nailed the Endicott spread and wasn't far off on Salve and WNE.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 04, 2015, 10:51:45 PM
The CCC (conference for Endicott,  Wne, Salve,  Curry and Nichols) is making an announcement tomorrow. Can only assume it's either about adding hockey or Football.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 04, 2015, 11:11:42 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 04, 2015, 10:51:45 PM
The CCC (conference for Endicott,  Wne, Salve,  Curry and Nichols) is making an announcement tomorrow. Can only assume it's either about adding hockey or Football.

They made a hockey announcement on Friday:
http://www.d3hockey.com/releases/men/2014-15/151002-another-ecac-league-goes-down-ccc-hockey-in-house

Expect a football announcement. Biggest question for the CCC is where the seventh team is so they can keep the NEFC AQ.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NED3Guy on October 05, 2015, 08:30:49 AM
Becker joining the CCC for hockey is not a good sign for the ECFC.... One could assume they'll be making the move for football as well.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 05, 2015, 09:09:58 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 04, 2015, 11:11:42 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 04, 2015, 10:51:45 PM
The CCC (conference for Endicott,  Wne, Salve,  Curry and Nichols) is making an announcement tomorrow. Can only assume it's either about adding hockey or Football.

They made a hockey announcement on Friday:
http://www.d3hockey.com/releases/men/2014-15/151002-another-ecac-league-goes-down-ccc-hockey-in-house

Expect a football announcement. Biggest question for the CCC is where the seventh team is so they can keep the NEFC AQ.

Good catch, I missed the hockey announcement. Interesting that they allowed Becker, Johnson and Wales and Suffolk to stay. I had heard previously that the league did not want associate members. That opens up the field for who the 7th football team is gonna be as now they don't have to be a fit for all sports but instead just football.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NED3Guy on October 05, 2015, 11:13:07 AM
http://cccathletics.com/sports/general/2015-16/Releases/CCCFootball

No mention of a 7th team in press release.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 05, 2015, 11:25:11 AM
Quote from: NED3Guy on October 05, 2015, 11:13:07 AM
http://cccathletics.com/sports/general/2015-16/Releases/CCCFootball

No mention of a 7th team in press release.

Things could get interesting here.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 05, 2015, 11:37:51 AM
Yep. They didn't get Catholic U., so the question is whether they can pull just one team from the Liberty League (or perhaps take one from someone else), or if they and the LL come to some sort of arrangement.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NED3Guy on October 05, 2015, 11:45:57 AM
How many new d3 programs are on the horizon?

New Programs already in D3-
UNE (already accounted for as a CCC team)

Transition Programs moving from other divisions-
St. A's (moving to d3, hearing NEWMAC rumors, though they fit the LL or Commonwealth Profile)
Dean Jr College (http://www.dean.edu/fanzone.aspx - They're private, so that fits the CCC and ECFC mold)

Any others?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 05, 2015, 02:01:14 PM
Maybe WPI or Sprinfield. Both private schools. Both would save on travel, even though I don't know if it would be enough to warrant the decision.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 05, 2015, 02:58:37 PM
Looking at an associate member from the ECFC would be my guess.

Interesting that they went after Catholic U, teams hate the Maine Maritime trip now, so don't see why they'd want a new school whose trip is just as long.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 05, 2015, 03:00:35 PM
But if it gets you the opportunity to keep the automatic bid ...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 05, 2015, 03:50:06 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 05, 2015, 03:00:35 PM
But if it gets you the opportunity to keep the automatic bid ...

Understood, I'd just assume they'd go for a Becker  or Anna Maria or even Norwich or Castleton before they did DC
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan142511 on October 05, 2015, 03:57:25 PM
Norwich is already joining the NEWMAC....I think this CCC conference will go after Becker or Mount Ida (better football tradition then Becker)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 05, 2015, 05:20:58 PM
Why would those teams want to join a tougher football league when they're in a conference with an automatic bid where they're already competitive?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NED3Guy on October 05, 2015, 06:42:38 PM
Huge benefits to Becker to become an all in member of the CCC as their current affiliation (for the majority of their sports) does not have an AQ in as many sports as the CCC.

No reason to jump from the ECFC just to become an affiliate in the CCC, but if the CCC offered them an all in, it makes tons of sence.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 05, 2015, 09:04:13 PM
Quote from: d3fan142511 on October 05, 2015, 03:57:25 PM
Norwich is already joining the NEWMAC....I think this CCC conference will go after Becker or Mount Ida (better football tradition then Becker)

I assume that Catholic was called before last month when the Norwich to NEW MAC deal was announced.

Pat, while I understand its probably better to be in worst conferences since there's essentially no at larges in D-3, but usually teams want to be in better conferences.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on October 05, 2015, 09:23:27 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 05, 2015, 09:04:13 PM
Quote from: d3fan142511 on October 05, 2015, 03:57:25 PM
Norwich is already joining the NEWMAC....I think this CCC conference will go after Becker or Mount Ida (better football tradition then Becker)

I assume that Catholic was called before last month when the Norwich to NEW MAC deal was announced.

Pat, while I understand its probably better to be in worst conferences since there's essentially no at larges in D-3, but usually teams want to be in better conferences.

For administrators, being in a more prestigious conference academically is almost certainly a plus.  (And I have no clue as to the academic prestige of the conferences being discussed.)  But being in a conference where athletically you have a far better shot at the postseason rather than one which is more challenging - hmmm...that might make a good discussion question.  I suspect the answers would vary greatly.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 05, 2015, 10:34:37 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on October 05, 2015, 09:23:27 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 05, 2015, 09:04:13 PM
Quote from: d3fan142511 on October 05, 2015, 03:57:25 PM
Norwich is already joining the NEWMAC....I think this CCC conference will go after Becker or Mount Ida (better football tradition then Becker)

I assume that Catholic was called before last month when the Norwich to NEW MAC deal was announced.

Pat, while I understand its probably better to be in worst conferences since there's essentially no at larges in D-3, but usually teams want to be in better conferences.

For administrators, being in a more prestigious conference academically is almost certainly a plus.  (And I have no clue as to the academic prestige of the conferences being discussed.)  But being in a conference where athletically you have a far better shot at the postseason rather than one which is more challenging - hmmm...that might make a good discussion question.  I suspect the answers would vary greatly.

In sports like baseball, basketball and soccer where you have a shot at still getting to the NCAA's as a 2nd or 3rd place team, the obvious answer is best conference possible. For football where we're only a few more splits away from their being zero at large bids left, it's more complicated. The pride part of you says go up against the best, but teams like RPI, Springfield, Alfred would all be looking at multiple NCAA appearances if they spent the last decade in the  NEFC or ECFC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on October 05, 2015, 11:13:20 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 05, 2015, 10:34:37 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on October 05, 2015, 09:23:27 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 05, 2015, 09:04:13 PM
Quote from: d3fan142511 on October 05, 2015, 03:57:25 PM
Norwich is already joining the NEWMAC....I think this CCC conference will go after Becker or Mount Ida (better football tradition then Becker)

I assume that Catholic was called before last month when the Norwich to NEW MAC deal was announced.

Pat, while I understand its probably better to be in worst conferences since there's essentially no at larges in D-3, but usually teams want to be in better conferences.

For administrators, being in a more prestigious conference academically is almost certainly a plus.  (And I have no clue as to the academic prestige of the conferences being discussed.)  But being in a conference where athletically you have a far better shot at the postseason rather than one which is more challenging - hmmm...that might make a good discussion question.  I suspect the answers would vary greatly.

In sports like baseball, basketball and soccer where you have a shot at still getting to the NCAA's as a 2nd or 3rd place team, the obvious answer is best conference possible. For football where we're only a few more splits away from their being zero at large bids left, it's more complicated. The pride part of you says go up against the best, but teams like RPI, Springfield, Alfred would all be looking at multiple NCAA appearances if they spent the last decade in the  NEFC or ECFC.

But don't forget that the ultimate decisions are being made by people who may or may not give a damn about athletics.  And that's just the administrators. 

The faculty (I spent my career at a low-level D1 school) has a mix of 'jock-sniffers' who give breaks out the wazoo to athletes, 'dumb-jock haters' who won't make ANY allowances for athletic commitments, no matter how much the advanced warning, and the (hopefully) majority who treat athletes individually and fairly.

If either administrators (short term) or faculty (who usually win in the long term) get too out-of-whack, athletics can go down the tubes.  They will either start going 1-9, 0-10, or get put on probation.  Successful programs have both supportive administrators AND faculty.  (And, of course, it doesn't hurt to have supportive alumni and community members!)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan142511 on October 06, 2015, 10:09:37 AM
Pat-Why would Norwich leave the ECFC then? They and Mount Ida have been the best team overall since the ECFC has been around. Not one losing conference record.

Makes all sense for Mount Ida and Becker to join the CCC...Better Overall conference/ cuts down on travel and the amount of overnights and beside for WNEC and Salve there arent really world beaters in that conference. Curry Nichols and UNE? Common Mount Ida and Becker would be competing with them.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 06, 2015, 10:20:35 AM
Quote from: d3fan142511 on October 06, 2015, 10:09:37 AM
Pat-Why would Norwich leave the ECFC then? They and Mount Ida have been the best team overall since the ECFC has been around. Not one losing conference record.

Norwich has some old rivalries in the new league -- it's got a bit of a Freedom Football Conference flavor, doesn't it?

On the flip side, why would Coast Guard leave the Liberty League? Why would Western Connecticut leave the NJAC?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan142511 on October 06, 2015, 11:49:18 AM
it works both ways really is not that far fetched of an idea for either of them to leave. Only time will tell
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NED3Guy on October 06, 2015, 12:12:35 PM
Norwich had been looking for ways to reconnect with their old pals Coast Guard and Merchant Marine for years. The tradition of those games is the D3 equivalent of Army / Navy / Air Force games. Huge for alums, huge for recruiting purposes (beyond athletics). Being associated with the two federal academies (Coast Guard and Kings Point) is a HUGE deal for the Norwich administration.

Side note: Norwich has been playing football longer than the other EFCF teams have combined! That's crazy when you think about it. Easy to see why Norwich would move on, both from a football standpoint, but more importantly from an institutional standpoint.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 06, 2015, 04:06:28 PM
Remember too that Norwich might be stepping up in football competition now, but they left the Empire 8 for the ECFC after a four-year span in which they went 1-23 in Empire 8 play.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan142511 on October 07, 2015, 05:05:41 PM
Power Rankings:
1. WNEC
2. Endicott
3. Coast Guard
4. Salve
5. MIT
6. Maine
7. Curry
8. Nichols

No Games this week.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 08, 2015, 09:10:19 AM
Quote from: d3fan142511 on October 07, 2015, 05:05:41 PM
Power Rankings:
1. WNEC
2. Endicott
3. Coast Guard
4. Salve
5. MIT
6. Maine
7. Curry
8. Nichols

No Games this week.

Still weird to see Curry at 7.


Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on October 08, 2015, 10:51:27 AM
That purple drank has been in the ****ing tank for some time now... :o
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 08, 2015, 12:56:21 PM
Quote from: dlip on October 08, 2015, 10:51:27 AM
That purple drank has been in the ****ing tank for some time now... :o

I thought they had a chance this year to build some momentum going forward winning 3 out of their last 4 games last year. Granted, none of them were against any good competition, it was still a good sign. But they are back to the bottom again with the like of Nichols.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 08, 2015, 01:18:54 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 08, 2015, 12:56:21 PM
Quote from: dlip on October 08, 2015, 10:51:27 AM
That purple drank has been in the ****ing tank for some time now... :o

I thought they had a chance this year to build some momentum going forward winning 3 out of their last 4 games last year. Granted, none of them were against any good competition, it was still a good sign. But they are back to the bottom again with the like of Nichols.

I think something that has just gone completely under the radar with Curry is that it's entirely possible that they aren't performing at their highest level because of the extreme tightness of their jerseys.  Scientifically speaking, it's just too difficult to play good football when your jerseys don't fit over your regular shoulders, nevermind your shoulder pads.  It's an unfortunate reality.

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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on October 08, 2015, 01:25:34 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 08, 2015, 01:18:54 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 08, 2015, 12:56:21 PM
Quote from: dlip on October 08, 2015, 10:51:27 AM
That purple drank has been in the ****ing tank for some time now... :o

I thought they had a chance this year to build some momentum going forward winning 3 out of their last 4 games last year. Granted, none of them were against any good competition, it was still a good sign. But they are back to the bottom again with the like of Nichols.

I think something that has just gone completely under the radar with Curry is that it's entirely possible that they aren't performing at their highest level because of the extreme tightness of their jerseys.  Scientifically speaking, it's just too difficult to play good football when your jerseys don't fit over your regular shoulders, nevermind your shoulder pads.  It's an unfortunate reality.

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Another mystery is why the football team is wearing the girls basketball uniforms for their team picture....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 08, 2015, 01:28:07 PM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on October 08, 2015, 01:25:34 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 08, 2015, 01:18:54 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 08, 2015, 12:56:21 PM
Quote from: dlip on October 08, 2015, 10:51:27 AM
That purple drank has been in the ****ing tank for some time now... :o

I thought they had a chance this year to build some momentum going forward winning 3 out of their last 4 games last year. Granted, none of them were against any good competition, it was still a good sign. But they are back to the bottom again with the like of Nichols.

I think something that has just gone completely under the radar with Curry is that it's entirely possible that they aren't performing at their highest level because of the extreme tightness of their jerseys.  Scientifically speaking, it's just too difficult to play good football when your jerseys don't fit over your regular shoulders, nevermind your shoulder pads.  It's an unfortunate reality.

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Another mystery is why the football team is wearing the girls backetball uniforms for their team picture....

Special Agent Utah...You may have cracked the case...

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Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bman on October 08, 2015, 02:46:12 PM
Wow... With the exception of No. 6, they look like high School Freshmen...
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on October 09, 2015, 10:51:51 AM
Are they the kickers and punters?

Does the school have a weight room? That the players actually use? :)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 09, 2015, 12:27:00 PM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on October 09, 2015, 10:51:51 AM
Are they the kickers and punters?

Does the school have a weight room? That the players actually use? :)


Holy smokes, I just went to the website to look at this myself. Don't look at any of the pictures in the 60's and 70's.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NED3Guy on October 09, 2015, 12:48:04 PM
Lets keep in mind that Skip was working part time as the HFC until June of 2014....recruiting as a part time guy (against full time staffs) leads to the results we can see in those roster pictures.

They had a lot of success back in the day, but most of their peer schools were also working with part time staffs back then.

Give him a few years of full time recruiting and lets see how things go.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 09, 2015, 12:59:14 PM
Quote from: NED3Guy on October 09, 2015, 12:48:04 PM
Lets keep in mind that Skip was working part time as the HFC until June of 2014....recruiting as a part time guy (against full time staffs) leads to the results we can see in those roster pictures.

They had a lot of success back in the day, but most of their peer schools were also working with part time staffs back then.

Give him a few years of full time recruiting and lets see how things go.

So when they hired him full time, how much material per shirt was cut in order to afford the extra salary?  Obviously the sleeves were the first casualty, then they took it in nice and tight in the midsection areas.  I'd say they probably took about 43.678% per shirt, give or take 1.6%.  Full time or not, he's screwed until Curry can afford dressing these kids properly.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on October 09, 2015, 01:12:17 PM
Quote from: NED3Guy on October 09, 2015, 12:48:04 PM
Lets keep in mind that Skip was working part time as the HFC until June of 2014....recruiting as a part time guy (against full time staffs) leads to the results we can see in those roster pictures.

They had a lot of success back in the day, but most of their peer schools were also working with part time staffs back then.

Give him a few years of full time recruiting and lets see how things go.

Are most/all of the NEFC coaches full-time now?  At least the HC's? I understand having mostly part-time assistants, but I was genuinely stunned when I learned (back in the mid-aughts, I think) that none of the NEFC schools even had a single FT coach, and thought that largely explained the NEFC struggle to play respectably against the rest of the East D3 schools for most of that time frame.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 09, 2015, 01:36:14 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 09, 2015, 12:59:14 PM
Quote from: NED3Guy on October 09, 2015, 12:48:04 PM
Lets keep in mind that Skip was working part time as the HFC until June of 2014....recruiting as a part time guy (against full time staffs) leads to the results we can see in those roster pictures.

They had a lot of success back in the day, but most of their peer schools were also working with part time staffs back then.

Give him a few years of full time recruiting and lets see how things go.

So when they hired him full time, how much material per shirt was cut in order to afford the extra salary?  Obviously the sleeves were the first casualty, then they took it in nice and tight in the midsection areas.  I'd say they probably took about 43.678% per shirt, give or take 1.6%.  Full time or not, he's screwed until Curry can afford dressing these kids properly.

Who are these "full time staffs" you speak of in the NEFC/MASCAC? I was under the impression that most of these schools have one full time guy now that doubles as something else at their schools. How many schools actually have 2,3, or 4 full time guys?

I'm just curious to know because I don't think the MASCAC actually has full time "staffs" for the most part. I'm not sure about the private school based NEFC schools, I know most head coaches are usually full time there, but how many actually have more than 1 full time coach?

Kinda nuts to think that a school that was so good in football and seemed to care about there program would all of a sudden be the one of the last schools to hire a full time guy, especially with a tuition tag of over 33,000 a year.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: continental on October 09, 2015, 01:48:20 PM
Curry always had a full-time coach whose other title was usually something like "director of football operations" during Skip's part-time years.  I think that position essentially still exists, and I believe their current DC is full-time.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 09, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 09, 2015, 01:36:14 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 09, 2015, 12:59:14 PM
Quote from: NED3Guy on October 09, 2015, 12:48:04 PM
Lets keep in mind that Skip was working part time as the HFC until June of 2014....recruiting as a part time guy (against full time staffs) leads to the results we can see in those roster pictures.

They had a lot of success back in the day, but most of their peer schools were also working with part time staffs back then.

Give him a few years of full time recruiting and lets see how things go.

So when they hired him full time, how much material per shirt was cut in order to afford the extra salary?  Obviously the sleeves were the first casualty, then they took it in nice and tight in the midsection areas.  I'd say they probably took about 43.678% per shirt, give or take 1.6%.  Full time or not, he's screwed until Curry can afford dressing these kids properly.

Who are these "full time staffs" you speak of in the NEFC/MASCAC? I was under the impression that most of these schools have one full time guy now that doubles as something else at their schools. How many schools actually have 2,3, or 4 full time guys?

I'm just curious to know because I don't think the MASCAC actually has full time "staffs" for the most part. I'm not sure about the private school based NEFC schools, I know most head coaches are usually full time there, but how many actually have more than 1 full time coach?

Kinda nuts to think that a school that was so good in football and seemed to care about there program would all of a sudden be the one of the last schools to hire a full time guy, especially with a tuition tag of over 33,000 a year.

Most schools have a head coach that's full time and maybe one assistant that's full time, but part of that full time is being head of intramurals or game day operations at the school.

I think Nichols is the only one who still doesn't have any full time coaches, including the head coach.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on October 09, 2015, 02:18:16 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 09, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
Most schools have a head coach that's full time and maybe one assistant that's full time, but part of that full time is being head of intramurals or game day operations at the school.

This is not unusual; rven at D3 schools where the full-time staff is a bit larger, most of the guys will wear some other hats like this.  Even being a full-time employee of the school vs. part-time is huge, though...at least you'll spend the whole day on campus and engaged in athletics/school operations as opposed to showing up for practice and watching film on your own time.

Re: the earlier thing about full-time "staffs" I think that was just a bit of unclear speech.  I don't think almost anybody in D3 has a true full-time staff.  I think it's pretty normal for most D3 schools to have full time HC and coordinators, maybe with an extra wild-card position or two thrown in if they're lucky.  My alma mater has HC, OC, DC, and a fourth full-time guy who coaches a position and then juggles recruiting, video, and other stuff like that.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: lewdogg11 on October 09, 2015, 02:34:12 PM
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My Staff is Full-Time.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NED3Guy on October 09, 2015, 03:01:50 PM
Taken from Curry website Bio of Coach Bandini: http://www.curryathletics.com/sports/fball/coaches/index

"Bandini joined the Curry Athletics staff full-time in June of 2014...."

When I use the term full time, I don't mean to say football only; but rather how many guys can make their living off of the money they get from the athletic department? How many guys are on campus on a Wednesday in March when Johnny Recruit and his parents show up on campus for a tour? How many guys can do school visits on weekdays in November and December when 90% of the teams in New England are on the road doing the same?

If your staff is made up of guys holding down 9-5 jobs, sneaking in game film on lunch break, and ducking out early a few days a week for practices; they may be the best coaches in the world, but your ability to recruit is going to suffer.

** I mean to take nothing away from those part-time coaches. It's awesome that they do what they do for the love of the sport (god knows they don't get paid much). And some of them are amazing coaches**

I don't know enough about Curry to dive too much into this, I'm just going off what the website tells me and what I know about other programs in the NEFC / CCC. Endicott, Salve, WNE, MIT and Coast Guard have had multiple guys in a full-time capacity for years....Not sure about Nichols currently. But I believe Loney had himself and two others in the office full time. From the looks of it, Curry just got to that point in 2014.

I don't know much about the staff structure at the MASCAC schools beyond Plymouth and MMA. I know those two schools have multiple guys who get year round pay from the athletic department, and can be out on the road recruiting. Plymouth has at least two full salary guys (HC and DC) as well as a few intern / GA type positions that get stipends and are expected to work full time hours. Maine Maritime has the HC, DC, OLine Coach, and a few intern guys as well. 
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 09, 2015, 03:08:01 PM
Quote from: continental on October 09, 2015, 01:48:20 PM
Curry always had a full-time coach whose other title was usually something like "director of football operations" during Skip's part-time years.  I think that position essentially still exists, and I believe their current DC is full-time.

I think you also have to look at where these school are recruiting with these full time coaches. I think the better MA kids who play D3 have typically gone to state schools just because of the cost factor. Curry costs over 50k a year when I took time to look it up. That is 30k more a year than most of the state schools. I also think that is why you can explain the shift in power between the NEFC/MASCAC, with the MASCAC being a slightly stronger conference than the NEFC/ECFC.

Looking at Curry's roster, its mostly MA kids. So I then took a look at WNEC's roster who is in first place and was actually taken off guard by not the number of out state kids they have, but how many out of state kids they have from New York and New Jersey on their roster. WNEC has kids from FL, TX, PA, MD on their roster as well, not to say they are getting prime time recruits from those traditional football powerhouses, but it speaks volumes that they are trying to create pipelines to those states.

For years the NEFC was smacked around by NJAC and E8 schools, its nice to see one of the schools take the time to build their rosters with kids from those regions and supplement them with some of the better MA and CT they can get. I just hope this leads to some better results on a regional scale.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 09, 2015, 06:49:13 PM
I don't know for sure about football, but i know Nichols does not have any full time coaches, even head coaches in any of their other sports. Most of the  CCC schools were part time until  the mid 2000's which could explain why Curry fell behind once they became behind the 8 ball.

For WNE, the large number of CT players are from the I-91 corridor which runs from 5 minutes away to up to only an hour away from WNE. So it's closer and easier to get to than Boston and most of Mass. It is good that they're in NY and NJ to.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on October 09, 2015, 08:10:31 PM
NED3, that's incorrect about Plymouth.  HC is full time,  all others part time.  No Graduate Assts.  At least not as most would define.  They get a very small stipend with no assistance towards classes, housing or meals....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NED3Guy on October 09, 2015, 08:36:41 PM
Agree to disagree.

Fairly confident Zemann is FT, and young guy Manley has an "intern" job that keeps him in the office during normal working hours...I assume similar for the other younger coaches who relocated to the area to join the staff.

Plymouth doesn't have the economy of greater Boston, so the odds of a guy from out of the area having a "real job" and being PT are very slim. The young out of area / non alum assistant coaches on their staff, relocated there to be coaches and are putting in the hours you'd see from traditional GA type guys. Yes their compensation packages include no classes or housing, but they are working full time as coaches
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 10, 2015, 04:51:54 PM
Springfield, a team that WNE made look like a high school team just blew out Hobart. Either Springfield got a lot better since week 1 or WNE is a force.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 12, 2015, 09:02:59 PM
Coming off of a bye week we're back in action this week. By the week why wasn't the league doing this all along? No one is on campus Columbus day weekend and it's the exact middle point of the season? Anyways, here's  My picks

WNE -45 @ Maine Maritime
Endicott -9.5 @ salve
Nichols @ Curry -2.5
MIT -4.5 @ Coast Guard

Two key games for me are endicott-salve and MIT-coast guard. CoastGuard and Salve are the two teams I can't get a read on. I think Salve is worse than we think and coast Guard might be better than we think. But I'm not sure yet.  How they do this weekend will give us a better idea of who the good and who the bad are in this league.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on October 13, 2015, 12:42:20 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 10, 2015, 04:51:54 PM
Springfield, a team that WNE made look like a high school team just blew out Hobart. Either Springfield got a lot better since week 1 or WNE is a force.

Springfield, with a one-dimensional offensive attack, either can roll over opponents or fizzle. Depends on the ability of the opponent's defense to play solid assignment defense and shut down that vaunted running attack. Early in their entry in the E8, Alfred struggled against it; as time went on, the Saxons could shut them down. The Pride had it rolling in a 2012 ECAC bowl game in Springfield against an injury-riddled Saxon squad that might have been better off staying home.

Pep is wondering whether injuries had anything to do with Hobart's implosion Saturday. Statesmen led 13-0 at halftime but lost, 35-13. Sometimes a squad losing one or two key players to injury can turn the tide in a game.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 13, 2015, 09:23:29 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 10, 2015, 04:51:54 PM
Springfield, a team that WNE made look like a high school team just blew out Hobart. Either Springfield got a lot better since week 1 or WNE is a force.

Could be both. Last year WNEC beat Springfield to open up the year, but as the year went on, many people brought up the point that if they played head to head again later on the year, Springfield would probably win the game. Alot of that was in reference to EastCoast's New England poll he was putting up each week.

Frankly, it stinks WNEC isn't getting more respect in the East Region poll but I get the rationale behind it. Its not as if WNEC went out and scheduled bad teams, they actually attempted to schedule up. Unfortunately we won't know much until playoff time.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 13, 2015, 08:41:40 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 13, 2015, 09:23:29 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 10, 2015, 04:51:54 PM
Springfield, a team that WNE made look like a high school team just blew out Hobart. Either Springfield got a lot better since week 1 or WNE is a force.

Could be both. Last year WNEC beat Springfield to open up the year, but as the year went on, many people brought up the point that if they played head to head again later on the year, Springfield would probably win the game. Alot of that was in reference to EastCoast's New England poll he was putting up each week.

Frankly, it stinks WNEC isn't getting more respect in the East Region poll but I get the rationale behind it. Its not as if WNEC went out and scheduled bad teams, they actually attempted to schedule up. Unfortunately we won't know much until playoff time.

I get the WNE isn't playing anyone rationale. That'll change with Endicott and hopefully Salve or MIT if one of them can get it together. But it's not like they're scrapping by Westfield and Nichols. I think the number is 40-9 for the average score of their games with the horses being called off in the beginning of the 4th if not sooner in all these games.

And like I mentioned, when they faced Sprinfield,  Springfield looked like a high school team who was gonna get rail roaded in Liberty League play. To blow out Hobart shows that they are actually an average team.

Now don't get me wrong, I don't think they're a top 10 team or anything like that. But you can't really watch them play and then say that they wouldn't be top 2 or 3 in the Liberty and play great games with RPI and St Lawrence.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 14, 2015, 05:58:29 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 13, 2015, 08:41:40 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 13, 2015, 09:23:29 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 10, 2015, 04:51:54 PM
Springfield, a team that WNE made look like a high school team just blew out Hobart. Either Springfield got a lot better since week 1 or WNE is a force.

Could be both. Last year WNEC beat Springfield to open up the year, but as the year went on, many people brought up the point that if they played head to head again later on the year, Springfield would probably win the game. Alot of that was in reference to EastCoast's New England poll he was putting up each week.

Frankly, it stinks WNEC isn't getting more respect in the East Region poll but I get the rationale behind it. Its not as if WNEC went out and scheduled bad teams, they actually attempted to schedule up. Unfortunately we won't know much until playoff time.

I get the WNE isn't playing anyone rationale. That'll change with Endicott and hopefully Salve or MIT if one of them can get it together. But it's not like they're scrapping by Westfield and Nichols. I think the number is 40-9 for the average score of their games with the horses being called off in the beginning of the 4th if not sooner in all these games.

And like I mentioned, when they faced Sprinfield,  Springfield looked like a high school team who was gonna get rail roaded in Liberty League play. To blow out Hobart shows that they are actually an average team.

Now don't get me wrong, I don't think they're a top 10 team or anything like that. But you can't really watch them play and then say that they wouldn't be top 2 or 3 in the Liberty and play great games with RPI and St Lawrence.

I agree 1oo% Jackson.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on October 14, 2015, 06:48:34 PM
Dlip also agrees. Well said.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on October 14, 2015, 09:00:53 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 13, 2015, 08:41:40 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 13, 2015, 09:23:29 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on October 10, 2015, 04:51:54 PM
Springfield, a team that WNE made look like a high school team just blew out Hobart. Either Springfield got a lot better since week 1 or WNE is a force.

Could be both. Last year WNEC beat Springfield to open up the year, but as the year went on, many people brought up the point that if they played head to head again later on the year, Springfield would probably win the game. Alot of that was in reference to EastCoast's New England poll he was putting up each week.

Frankly, it stinks WNEC isn't getting more respect in the East Region poll but I get the rationale behind it. Its not as if WNEC went out and scheduled bad teams, they actually attempted to schedule up. Unfortunately we won't know much until playoff time.

I get the WNE isn't playing anyone rationale. That'll change with Endicott and hopefully Salve or MIT if one of them can get it together. But it's not like they're scrapping by Westfield and Nichols. I think the number is 40-9 for the average score of their games with the horses being called off in the beginning of the 4th if not sooner in all these games.

And like I mentioned, when they faced Sprinfield,  Springfield looked like a high school team who was gonna get rail roaded in Liberty League play. To blow out Hobart shows that they are actually an average team.

Now don't get me wrong, I don't think they're a top 10 team or anything like that. But you can't really watch them play and then say that they wouldn't be top 2 or 3 in the Liberty and play great games with RPI and St Lawrence.

A solid defense i.e. Ithaca can make a potent offense look average. Pep gets it that WNEU is pummeling the competition in the NEFC. There aren't any Ithaca Bomber defenses in the NEFC. Frankly, don't see Endicott, Salve Regina or MIT giving the Golden Bears much of a battle. Not this year, anyway. Sort of reminds Pep of the Curry Colonels, who for several years zipped through their regular season schedule then get clobbered by an RPI or St. John Fisher. Eventually, Curry got its first NCAA playoff win, folks started to give them some respect and they abruptly fell back into mediocrity. Respect will come. Pep learned long ago not to worry about rankings. The key is that the Golden Bears continue to play well.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 15, 2015, 12:05:13 AM
40.8-8.8 was the average score I was looking for earlier with never scoring less than 31 or allowing more than 14. Historically WNE always goes to town on Maine Maritime so I'd expect that number to be larger after this weekend.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Bombers798891 on October 15, 2015, 07:47:12 AM
Quote from: AUPepBand on October 14, 2015, 09:00:53 PM
There aren't any Ithaca Bomber defenses in the NEFC... Sort of reminds Pep of the Curry Colonels

So much irony
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on October 15, 2015, 02:24:00 PM
Quote from: Bombers798891 on October 15, 2015, 07:47:12 AM
Quote from: AUPepBand on October 14, 2015, 09:00:53 PM
There aren't any Ithaca Bomber defenses in the NEFC... Sort of reminds Pep of the Curry Colonels

So much irony

Irony, indeed!   :)

Dem Spicy Boys Done Beat Dem Bombers.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan142511 on October 16, 2015, 09:35:13 AM
Power Rankings: Stay the same with no games last week
1. WNEC
2. Endicott
3. Coast Guard
4. Salve
5. MIT
6. Maine
7. Curry
8. Nichols

Game Predictions:
Endicott at Salve- Big game for both teams- I think Endicott gets a big road victory- Endicott 17-14
WNEC at Maine-WNEC 42-10
Nichols at Curry- Curry 10-7
MIT at Coast Guard- This is one of the biggest games in Coast Guard season. If they can win this game there is no reason they are not 5-0 (In Conference) going into WNEC. At Home give me the Bears Coast Guard 24-17



Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 17, 2015, 01:16:18 PM
Salve doing work versus Endicott up 19-7

WNE is struggling with Maine Maritime only up 21-14 at half.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 17, 2015, 04:37:10 PM
Coast guard beats MIT. They're 3-0 with wins over Salve and MIT. Are we all just over looking Coast guard? Could they be the #2 team, or even #1?

WNE blows out everyone but has played the 3 worst teams in the conference to start the year and after next week will be the bottom 4. The next 4 weeks will be interesting as they'll be facing teams that they can knock out of the playoffs each week.

Endicott getting blown out by Salve shows us something. We don't just know what. Are they overrated and not a good team. Which would be a good sign for the league after their game with Framingham, or is Salve actually good which makes coast guard even better?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 20, 2015, 02:12:58 PM
Coast Guard is the number 2 team in the conference in my opinion. I think that when they play November 7th it will be for the de-facto league championship. Endicott is down, more like a 4th/5th place team in the league, which means Framingham did what they should of done to them.

Interesting that Bridgewater and Framingham also play the 7th... both leagues could have their defacto championship games on the same date, and that both the home teams will be the underdogs. Will be a fun weekend of football for sure.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 22, 2015, 07:21:48 PM
Prediction for the weekend. No great games. MIT vs WNE would probably be the best. But I'm expecting 4 meaningless 4th quarters.

Salve -21 @ Nichols
Maine Maritime at Endicott -9.5
Coast guard -17.5 @Curry
WNE -13.5 @ MIT
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan142511 on October 23, 2015, 10:22:41 AM
3-1 on picks last week. Salve with the win was the only loss

Power Rankings:
1. WNEC
2. Coast Guard
3. Salve
4. Endicott
5. MIT
6. Maine
7. Curry
8. Nichols

Predictions:
Salve rolls Nichols
Endicott bounces back vs Maine wins 35-31
Coast Guard beats up on Curry
WNEC Roll MIT
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 25, 2015, 01:13:38 PM
Did Coast Guard suspend people?? What the heck happen?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 30, 2015, 01:14:49 AM
Nefc schedule with predictions. Actually pretty good matchups. I'd be surprised if there's more than 1 game that isn't a multi score game at the end.

Curry -3.5 @ Maine Maritime
Salve -6 @ MIT
Nichols @ Coast Guard -13.5
Endicott @ WNE -9.5

Also cool part of the schedule, 4-0 WNE has the three toughest opponents to end the season. Each week they'll get to eliminate a tea with a win. But with each loss their opponent will looking at a very good shot at having the tiebreakers to win the championship
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 30, 2015, 10:17:35 AM
Derek Victory was injured in the Curry game.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan142511 on October 30, 2015, 01:53:27 PM
3-1 on picks last week....Cant believe Curry beat Coast Guard 42-14...even if their QB was playing Coast Guards Defense did not stop them at all.

Power Rankings:
1. WNEC
2. Salve
3. Endicott
4. Coast Guard
5. Curry
6. MIT
7. Maine
8. Nichols

Predictions this week
Maine over Curry 35-31
Salve over MIT 24-10
Coast Guard over Nichols 28-13
WNE over Endicott 27-20
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on October 31, 2015, 03:32:33 PM
So I was wrong, MIT is terrible.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 31, 2015, 05:34:27 PM
WNEC survives a good one with Endicott, still have some key games remaining. If they win out, should get that home game this time around.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on November 01, 2015, 02:46:24 PM
Has anyone seen a list anywhere of teams that are still eligible to win their conference so we can start looking at playoff matchups?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan142511 on November 02, 2015, 04:09:26 PM
4-0 last week

Power Rankings:
1. WNEC
2. Salve
3. Endicott
4. Coast Guard

5-8 really dont matter all beat up on each other i guess i am moving maine up since they just beat curry and curry beat Coast Guard?

5. Maine
6. Curry
7. MIT
8. Nichols

Predictions this week
Maine vs Salve- Salve- 42-17
WNEC vs Coast Guard- WNEC 24-17- Rooting for Coast Guard
Curry vs Endicott- Endicott- 28-10
Nichols vs MIT- MIT 17-7

This then Sets up for a winner take all Salve vs WNEC Championship game final week of the year
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 03, 2015, 12:34:40 PM
Quote from: d3fan142511 on November 02, 2015, 04:09:26 PM
4-0 last week

Power Rankings:
1. WNEC
2. Salve
3. Endicott
4. Coast Guard

5-8 really dont matter all beat up on each other i guess i am moving maine up since they just beat curry and curry beat Coast Guard?

5. Maine
6. Curry
7. MIT
8. Nichols

Predictions this week
Maine vs Salve- Salve- 42-17
WNEC vs Coast Guard- WNEC 24-17- Rooting for Coast Guard
Curry vs Endicott- Endicott- 28-10
Nichols vs MIT- MIT 17-7

This then Sets up for a winner take all Salve vs WNEC Championship game final week of the year


Agree with all of this. MIT beats Nichols by more, lets say 31-7. I think WNEC puts a hurting on Coast Guard, thinking 42-17. None the less, some big games this week in New England when you add Bridgewater vs Framingham in the MASCAC
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 03, 2015, 05:48:35 PM
Put a story together on the continuing conference shuffle in the East Region and might be of interest here:
http://www.d3football.com/notables/2015/11/the-race-to-seven
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan142511 on November 04, 2015, 08:41:12 AM
Great Article Pat.

As mentioned before i would not be surprised to see some movement with ECFC teams. Becker and Mount Ida, Anna Maria could be candidates to join the CCC.

To make it all easy it would be best to disform the ECFC and just make a 10 team CCC conference.

Galludet can join up with the NJAC or USAC and SUNY Maritime can join the Empire or Liberty League. St. A's join the LL or NEWMAC

That would be best Geographically

CCC
1. Salve
2. Endicott
3. WNEC
4. Nichols
5. Curry
6. Becker
7. Husson
8. Castleton
9. Mount Ida
10. Anna Maria

Thoughts?

Pat why didnt you post this in the ECFC board?  ;D LOL jk... again good read!

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan142511 on November 04, 2015, 08:50:49 AM
Again the post before has probably a 0.01 % chance of happening but its good to discuss with so much movement in the East
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NED3Guy on November 04, 2015, 09:23:49 AM
The ECFC will fight hard to remain intact and keep their AQ...nobody has any reason to leave. Norwich was the outcast in the ECFC having played football for 70 years longer than the rest of the ECFC teams combined. The NEWMAC gets Norwich back playing traditional opponents.

Beyond that, I can't see an ECFC team jumping ship just for football's sake.

We're not talking about FBS level movement that has big dollars involved with being a member of a more prestigious conference.

If you're Becker (on the cusp of your first winning season), Mount Ida (down right now, but just a few years removed from an AQ), or Castleton (played in an ECAC game in just their fourth year as a program), why would you want to leave that?

The "play the highest level of competition possible" argument is valid in some cases, but all it takes is a quick look at the non league schedules to realize that's not a priority for most ECFC teams (Norwich is the exception).

The ECFC is AQ safe, for now, and unless a full inclusion offer comes to a team like Becker from the CCC that would bring all sports into the league, I don't see a reason why an ECFC team would leave.

Only other scenario I can see is if there is shakeup in New York State stemming from the LL, and somehow a SUNY league (or division) is formed that pulls SUNY Maritime out of the ECFC.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 04, 2015, 02:20:38 PM
Quote from: NED3Guy on November 04, 2015, 09:23:49 AM
The ECFC will fight hard to remain intact and keep their AQ...nobody has any reason to leave. Norwich was the outcast in the ECFC having played football for 70 years longer than the rest of the ECFC teams combined. The NEWMAC gets Norwich back playing traditional opponents.

Beyond that, I can't see an ECFC team jumping ship just for football's sake.

We're not talking about FBS level movement that has big dollars involved with being a member of a more prestigious conference.

If you're Becker (on the cusp of your first winning season), Mount Ida (down right now, but just a few years removed from an AQ), or Castleton (played in an ECAC game in just their fourth year as a program), why would you want to leave that?

The "play the highest level of competition possible" argument is valid in some cases, but all it takes is a quick look at the non league schedules to realize that's not a priority for most ECFC teams (Norwich is the exception).

The ECFC is AQ safe, for now, and unless a full inclusion offer comes to a team like Becker from the CCC that would bring all sports into the league, I don't see a reason why an ECFC team would leave.

Only other scenario I can see is if there is shakeup in New York State stemming from the LL, and somehow a SUNY league (or division) is formed that pulls SUNY Maritime out of the ECFC.

Travel is always a reason a team could leave. I've noticed that most teams that change leagues usually do it over traveling costs.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on November 07, 2015, 03:52:46 PM
WNE-Salve championship game next week
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan142511 on November 11, 2015, 10:24:20 AM
4-0 on Picks...Sets up for a championship game this week Salve vs WNEC

Power Rankings:
1. WNEC
2. Salve
3. Endicott
4. Coast Guard
5. Curry
6. MIT
7. Maine
8. Nichols

Predictions
Maine over Nichols 35-14
Curry over MIT 21-17
Endicott over Coast Guard 24-17

Championship Game

Salve over WNEC- I think Salve has found its Mojo after the loss to Coast Guard. This team is clicking on all cylinders. WNEC has been the best team all year but like the whole east region knows that no top team is safe this year. I think this week the trend continues Salve with the upset 28-17.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 13, 2015, 02:59:58 PM
Quote from: d3fan142511 on November 11, 2015, 10:24:20 AM
4-0 on Picks...Sets up for a championship game this week Salve vs WNEC

Power Rankings:
1. WNEC
2. Salve
3. Endicott
4. Coast Guard
5. Curry
6. MIT
7. Maine
8. Nichols

Predictions
Maine over Nichols 35-14
Curry over MIT 21-17
Endicott over Coast Guard 24-17

Championship Game

Salve over WNEC- I think Salve has found its Mojo after the loss to Coast Guard. This team is clicking on all cylinders. WNEC has been the best team all year but like the whole east region knows that no top team is safe this year. I think this week the trend continues Salve with the upset 28-17.


I could see this if WNEC was slipping up lately, but I mean they just won 51-0 or something crazy like that against said Coast Guard team that has already beaten Salve. This WNEC team seems to be pretty focused and their mindset will be pretty much the same as last week because the scenario is the same. Hell, I think WNEC is going out looking to beat these guys up big to prove a point that they are better than what their regional ranking says.

WNEC 31
Salve 14
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on November 13, 2015, 03:12:54 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 13, 2015, 02:59:58 PM
Quote from: d3fan142511 on November 11, 2015, 10:24:20 AM
4-0 on Picks...Sets up for a championship game this week Salve vs WNEC

Power Rankings:
1. WNEC
2. Salve
3. Endicott
4. Coast Guard
5. Curry
6. MIT
7. Maine
8. Nichols

Predictions
Maine over Nichols 35-14
Curry over MIT 21-17
Endicott over Coast Guard 24-17

Championship Game

Salve over WNEC- I think Salve has found its Mojo after the loss to Coast Guard. This team is clicking on all cylinders. WNEC has been the best team all year but like the whole east region knows that no top team is safe this year. I think this week the trend continues Salve with the upset 28-17.


I could see this if WNEC was slipping up lately, but I mean they just won 51-0 or something crazy like that against said Coast Guard team that has already beaten Salve. This WNEC team seems to be pretty focused and their mindset will be pretty much the same as last week because the scenario is the same. Hell, I think WNEC is going out looking to beat these guys up big to prove a point that they are better than what their regional ranking says.

WNEC 31
Salve 14

I agree with you logic Boxer, I think WNEC understands this and I think Coach Emery will have them ready. I would reference last year's game against Curry. However, knowing that everything is on the line, the playoffs basically starts here.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 13, 2015, 05:04:55 PM
Dlip is wishing WNEC all the best. He would really like to see them do something special.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 14, 2015, 04:17:54 PM
Congrats to Western New England for being the ONLY team (that is playoff eligible) in the Eastern Region to go undefeated! That is an accomplishment in and of itself.

Unfortunately, The reward is likely a long trip to a good team.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on November 14, 2015, 04:52:51 PM
WNEC did just enough to hold of a good Salve team, looking forward to next week, most likely to Framingham State.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on November 14, 2015, 05:19:03 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on November 14, 2015, 04:52:51 PM
WNEC did just enough to hold of a good Salve team, looking forward to next week, most likely to Framingham State.

WNE would be dancing in the streets if they got FSU.  Expect a trip to Cortland, Salisbury, St Lawrence or Albright.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on November 14, 2015, 05:20:52 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on November 13, 2015, 03:12:54 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 13, 2015, 02:59:58 PM
Quote from: d3fan142511 on November 11, 2015, 10:24:20 AM
4-0 on Picks...Sets up for a championship game this week Salve vs WNEC

Power Rankings:
1. WNEC
2. Salve
3. Endicott
4. Coast Guard
5. Curry
6. MIT
7. Maine
8. Nichols

Predictions
Maine over Nichols 35-14
Curry over MIT 21-17
Endicott over Coast Guard 24-17

Championship Game

Salve over WNEC- I think Salve has found its Mojo after the loss to Coast Guard. This team is clicking on all cylinders. WNEC has been the best team all year but like the whole east region knows that no top team is safe this year. I think this week the trend continues Salve with the upset 28-17.


I could see this if WNEC was slipping up lately, but I mean they just won 51-0 or something crazy like that against said Coast Guard team that has already beaten Salve. This WNEC team seems to be pretty focused and their mindset will be pretty much the same as last week because the scenario is the same. Hell, I think WNEC is going out looking to beat these guys up big to prove a point that they are better than what their regional ranking says.

WNEC 31
Salve 14

I agree with you logic Boxer, I think WNEC understands this and I think Coach Emery will have them ready. I would reference last year's game against Curry. However, knowing that everything is on the line, the playoffs basically starts here.


Last years Curry game was a week after they got their heart ripped out on a blocked extra point and played without their QB and in 40 degree pouring rain storm. Any other time and WNE wouldve rolled.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on November 15, 2015, 07:17:43 PM
This is the worst bracket I've ever seen.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on November 15, 2015, 07:28:33 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 15, 2015, 07:17:43 PM
This is the worst bracket I've ever seen.

How so?  Enlighten us with your brilliance.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 16, 2015, 07:57:24 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 15, 2015, 07:28:33 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 15, 2015, 07:17:43 PM
This is the worst bracket I've ever seen.

How so?  Enlighten us with your brilliance.

Jackson is a WNEC guy so I'm guessing he is not too happy with their undefeated season drawing a top ten John Hopkins team who is probably going to monkey stomp them.

Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on November 16, 2015, 08:59:39 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 16, 2015, 07:57:24 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 15, 2015, 07:28:33 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 15, 2015, 07:17:43 PM
This is the worst bracket I've ever seen.

How so?  Enlighten us with your brilliance.

Jackson is a WNEC guy so I'm guessing he is not too happy with their undefeated season drawing a top ten John Hopkins team who is probably going to monkey stomp them.

While Norwich gets Albright. Shouldve been Framingham to Albright, WNE to Wesley, Norwich to John Hopkins.

Then St Lawrence drawing Mount Union was terrible.

Even if you want to play the 500 miles game. Norwich getting a better draw than both Framingham and WNE makes zero sense.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on November 17, 2015, 07:22:14 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 16, 2015, 08:59:39 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 16, 2015, 07:57:24 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 15, 2015, 07:28:33 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 15, 2015, 07:17:43 PM
This is the worst bracket I've ever seen.

How so?  Enlighten us with your brilliance.

Jackson is a WNEC guy so I'm guessing he is not too happy with their undefeated season drawing a top ten John Hopkins team who is probably going to monkey stomp them.

While Norwich gets Albright. Shouldve been Framingham to Albright, WNE to Wesley, Norwich to John Hopkins.

Then St Lawrence drawing Mount Union was terrible.

Even if you want to play the 500 miles game. Norwich getting a better draw than both Framingham and WNE makes zero sense.

I halfway agree with you.

Norwich can't get to Mount Union, so unfortunately that job had to fall to the next-lowest seeded team in this bracket. SLU gets a bit of the shaft here but nothing that out of line. If they'd beaten Hobart maybe things would have gone a little differently here, but 8-2 champs from a mediocre league are not strong candidates.

I do agree that Norwich to Albright is odd. I'd argue that Norwich should be going to Hopkins, who appears to be the second-highest seed. Then take your pick of Framingham/WNE to Albright/Wesley.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: jackson5 on November 21, 2015, 05:53:50 PM
Disappointing end to the year but hell of a season. Wish that WNE got a fair chance in the tournament, wouldve liked to see what they could do against someone other than a top 10 team
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: bman on November 22, 2015, 10:39:21 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 21, 2015, 05:53:50 PM
Disappointing end to the year but hell of a season. Wish that WNE got a fair chance in the tournament, wouldve liked to see what they could do against someone other than a top 10 team
I doubt the outcome would have been different....
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 23, 2015, 12:00:57 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 21, 2015, 05:53:50 PM
Disappointing end to the year but hell of a season. Wish that WNE got a fair chance in the tournament, wouldve liked to see what they could do against someone other than a top 10 team

I mean I would of liked to see a closer game out of them. Down 38-0 at the half doesn't really inspire much confidence that it would of been better against maybe say Wesley, who you suggested WNEC should be playing in the first round. Wesley is number 11 team in the country, just 3 spots below John Hopkins. To be honest, I was expecting a lot better showing out of them then they put up.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on November 23, 2015, 12:22:34 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 23, 2015, 12:00:57 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 21, 2015, 05:53:50 PM
Disappointing end to the year but hell of a season. Wish that WNE got a fair chance in the tournament, wouldve liked to see what they could do against someone other than a top 10 team

I mean I would of liked to see a closer game out of them. Down 38-0 at the half doesn't really inspire much confidence that it would of been better against maybe say Wesley, who you suggested WNEC should be playing in the first round. Wesley is number 11 team in the country, just 3 spots below John Hopkins. To be honest, I was expecting a lot better showing out of them then they put up.

x2.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: dlippiel on November 23, 2015, 12:29:21 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on November 23, 2015, 12:00:57 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on November 21, 2015, 05:53:50 PM
Disappointing end to the year but hell of a season. Wish that WNE got a fair chance in the tournament, wouldve liked to see what they could do against someone other than a top 10 team

I mean I would of liked to see a closer game out of them. Down 38-0 at the half doesn't really inspire much confidence that it would of been better against maybe say Wesley, who you suggested WNEC should be playing in the first round. Wesley is number 11 team in the country, just 3 spots below John Hopkins. To be honest, I was expecting a lot better showing out of them then they put up.

Yes right on here. dlip was disappointed in their performance. However they had a great season and maybe this exposure will help them in the future. Best of luck.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: desertcat1 on November 25, 2015, 11:49:08 AM
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone.  Safe travels.  :-*
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NED3Guy on December 31, 2015, 02:13:02 PM
Reports out of Maine are that University of New England has done a few interviews since the season ended, and has a few scheduled for next week, with an announcement coming around mid January.

Haven't heard much in the rumor mill surrounding who those candidates are. I did hear that at least 1 Maine High School coach was on campus, at at least 2 current D3 head coaches are in the mix....who knows though.

Happy Holidays to all-
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: rlk on January 31, 2016, 11:48:28 AM
John Urschel (Baltimore Ravens center) just enrolled as a PhD student in math at MIT (see interview at http://tech.mit.edu/V135/N38/urschel.html).  I'm pretty sure he's used up his elegibility, alas, and he's also otherwise occupied during the fall semester, although hopefully not during IAP  ;D
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NED3Guy on February 02, 2016, 09:14:58 AM
The coach at Becker stepped down (along with most of his staff) after leading Becker to the best record in program history, a third place finish in the ECFC and receiving the ECFC coach of the year award.

With the UNE talk relatively quite, could this move and the UNE job be connected??? Time will tell I suppose.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ccd494 on February 04, 2016, 04:03:45 PM
Quote from: NED3Guy on February 02, 2016, 09:14:58 AM
The coach at Becker stepped down (along with most of his staff) after leading Becker to the best record in program history, a third place finish in the ECFC and receiving the ECFC coach of the year award.

With the UNE talk relatively quite, could this move and the UNE job be connected??? Time will tell I suppose.

Yes.  http://bangordailynews.com/2016/02/04/sports/first-university-of-new-england-head-football-coach-cannot-wait-to-get-started/?ref=SportsBox
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on February 05, 2016, 09:30:57 AM
Quote from: ccd494 on February 04, 2016, 04:03:45 PM
Quote from: NED3Guy on February 02, 2016, 09:14:58 AM
The coach at Becker stepped down (along with most of his staff) after leading Becker to the best record in program history, a third place finish in the ECFC and receiving the ECFC coach of the year award.

With the UNE talk relatively quite, could this move and the UNE job be connected??? Time will tell I suppose.

Yes.  http://bangordailynews.com/2016/02/04/sports/first-university-of-new-england-head-football-coach-cannot-wait-to-get-started/?ref=SportsBox

Kind of an odd move football wise.  He must want to live in NH or is getting paid more.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: d3fan142511 on February 05, 2016, 10:41:56 AM
Start of a nice little Rivalry with Becker set to join this conference as well. Players who played for him that were Soph and Freshmen this year will still be there. Pretty Sure his QB was a Soph and was the best in the Conference.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ccd494 on February 05, 2016, 11:59:58 AM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on February 05, 2016, 09:30:57 AM
Quote from: ccd494 on February 04, 2016, 04:03:45 PM
Quote from: NED3Guy on February 02, 2016, 09:14:58 AM
The coach at Becker stepped down (along with most of his staff) after leading Becker to the best record in program history, a third place finish in the ECFC and receiving the ECFC coach of the year award.

With the UNE talk relatively quite, could this move and the UNE job be connected??? Time will tell I suppose.

Yes.  http://bangordailynews.com/2016/02/04/sports/first-university-of-new-england-head-football-coach-cannot-wait-to-get-started/?ref=SportsBox

Kind of an odd move football wise.  He must want to live in NH or is getting paid more.

UNE is not going to do this halfway.  They have a former D-I athletic director who really built up Quinnipiac's programs, they are expanding all over the place academically.  Plus, tough to beat the location.  Football on the beach.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: Jonny Utah on February 05, 2016, 12:08:33 PM
Quote from: ccd494 on February 05, 2016, 11:59:58 AM
Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on February 05, 2016, 09:30:57 AM
Quote from: ccd494 on February 04, 2016, 04:03:45 PM
Quote from: NED3Guy on February 02, 2016, 09:14:58 AM
The coach at Becker stepped down (along with most of his staff) after leading Becker to the best record in program history, a third place finish in the ECFC and receiving the ECFC coach of the year award.

With the UNE talk relatively quite, could this move and the UNE job be connected??? Time will tell I suppose.

Yes.  http://bangordailynews.com/2016/02/04/sports/first-university-of-new-england-head-football-coach-cannot-wait-to-get-started/?ref=SportsBox

Kind of an odd move football wise.  He must want to live in NH or is getting paid more.

UNE is not going to do this halfway.  They have a former D-I athletic director who really built up Quinnipiac's programs, they are expanding all over the place academically.  Plus, tough to beat the location.  Football on the beach.

I still find it strange.  This coach has d1 experience and is choosing to go to another new program to build it up?  Just not too logical for me in terms of a football coaching move, so I wondered if there were other personal reasons.  (Although I agree that Biddeford is probably a much nicer place than Central, MA)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: wheels81 on May 27, 2016, 10:08:27 AM
Here's a nice article about MIT
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/john-urschel-s-excellent-mit-offseason-142359101.html
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on June 01, 2016, 04:16:51 PM
Quote from: wheels81 on May 27, 2016, 10:08:27 AM
Here's a nice article about MIT
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/john-urschel-s-excellent-mit-offseason-142359101.html

Great article. That is what makes DIII Football/Athletics wonderful. +K
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ITH radio on June 23, 2016, 10:45:40 AM
https://noontimesports.com/

Matt Noonan previews the NEFC and other NE D3FB conferences, including the NESCAC in this blog post.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on July 31, 2016, 10:20:48 AM
Endicott got a sleeper with QB recruit Brendan Johnson this year.  Been watching him the past couple years and think he'll do very well.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: UfanBill on September 15, 2016, 12:50:24 PM
Hey, how about it NEFC...anybody got ANYTHING to say? Thoughts about WNE vs. Union? I think it will be a much closer game than last year. With a new coaching staff the U defense seems much improved and their offense, with fewer big play makers, has become more run orientated. I'm looking for Union to keep it close with a chance to win 4th quarter.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: meadowdale on September 23, 2016, 04:22:05 PM
Has UNE started on there field or stadium yet?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: nescac1 on September 23, 2016, 05:15:54 PM
OK the NBN Williams preview is posted and while the site usually does a great job, this one isn't terribly useful.  The listed starting QB is not on the roster, the listed FB will be playing RT, and one of the listed starting CBs (Scott) is also no longer on the team, having devoted himself to hoops only in his senior year.  So, it seems that really, there is no great info on Williams heading into the season (the Berkshire Eagle "preview" was equally non-helpful).  I guess who plays major roles for the Ephs on Saturday will be anyone's guess, beyond what Coach Raymond disclosed in the team's season preview on the Sports Info site!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: MASCACAlum on October 05, 2016, 11:32:58 PM
WNE should run away with the league championship salve close second
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ccd494 on October 06, 2016, 10:14:32 AM
Quote from: meadowdale on September 23, 2016, 04:22:05 PM
Has UNE started on there field or stadium yet?

No need.  Already have one.  http://athletics.une.edu/facilities/

May need to scroll right.  The Big Blue Turf.

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fathletics.une.edu%2Fcommon%2Fcontrols%2Fimage_handler.aspx%3Fthumb_id%3D0%26amp%3Bimage_path%3D%2Fimages%2F2016%2F9%2F28%2FCampus_Oct_2012.jpg&hash=b589bdcf295db5f84668ca9546866cc5134d1032)
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 19, 2016, 12:56:58 PM
Quote from: ccd494 on October 06, 2016, 10:14:32 AM
Quote from: meadowdale on September 23, 2016, 04:22:05 PM
Has UNE started on there field or stadium yet?

No need.  Already have one.  http://athletics.une.edu/facilities/

May need to scroll right.  The Big Blue Turf.

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fathletics.une.edu%2Fcommon%2Fcontrols%2Fimage_handler.aspx%3Fthumb_id%3D0%26amp%3Bimage_path%3D%2Fimages%2F2016%2F9%2F28%2FCampus_Oct_2012.jpg&hash=b589bdcf295db5f84668ca9546866cc5134d1032)

Wondering if the league will prevent them from wearing Blue on Blue at home, like the MWC did to Boise State.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 31, 2016, 12:29:51 PM
Quote from: MASCACAlum on October 05, 2016, 11:32:58 PM
WNE should run away with the league championship salve close second

MASCAC, I think your early October predictions may come true, however as far as running away with it, its going to be a tough one for WNE this upcoming weekend. I think with the game being in Newport, its going to be great game to watch, I expect both crowds to be there in full force cheering on their respective team. If I was a betting man, I would put WNE at -8, due to their stronger schedule and being tested.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ITH radio on October 31, 2016, 01:28:43 PM
The back half of our podcast has a lot of talk around the NE teams and conferences.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/ith/2016/10/30/in-the-huddlle--liberty-league-football-talk-show
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NE_FootballFan on November 22, 2016, 06:19:43 PM
Congratulations to Western New England on picking up a home playoff win over Husson. Big trip to Alfred coming up for what should be a real test and a great game. Hope the Golden Bears can get it done!
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: meadowdale on November 25, 2016, 11:15:03 PM
Heading back to UNE for a recruiting trip as soon as our state finals are over.Would appreciate any
insight on places we must see and restaurants or hotels to stay..
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: NE_FootballFan on November 26, 2016, 03:12:18 PM
Thank you Western New England for a great effort in the 2nd round against Alfred. The Golden Bears left it all on the field and made all of New England proud. Great program that will only get better with more tournament experience.
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: ITH radio on November 26, 2016, 03:25:50 PM
Great season for WNE - thought they had it.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 25, 2017, 05:32:35 PM
Just acknowledging the name change as the remaining NEFC teams move to play football under the CCC umbrella.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: meadowdale on February 02, 2017, 04:35:49 PM
University of New England just landed WR Haelin Roberts from Washington State.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 02, 2017, 05:57:12 PM
Quote from: meadowdale on February 02, 2017, 04:35:49 PM
University of New England just landed WR Haelin Roberts from Washington State.

From actual Washington State university or Washington state, as in the state of Washington?
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: meadowdale on February 02, 2017, 11:49:16 PM
State of Washington
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: meadowdale on March 01, 2017, 07:11:40 PM
Is there anybody out there?
Title: Re: New England Football Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on March 14, 2017, 02:22:12 PM
Quote from: NE_FootballFan on November 26, 2016, 03:12:18 PM
Thank you Western New England for a great effort in the 2nd round against Alfred. The Golden Bears left it all on the field and made all of New England proud. Great program that will only get better with more tournament experience.

A belated kudos to Western New England football team for never giving up against Pep's Saxons. With the Thanksgiving break decimating our pep band and much of our student section, the Saxons nevertheless just barely held off the Golden Bears. Talk about a game of inches! Not sure whether that Golden Bear broke the plane in that goalline stand....it appeared he was diving in but his body was headed in the opposite direction on the turf when all the bodies moved, leading me to believe someone hit him right at the goal line.

Not to be denied, the Bears attacked again but the AU defense (Chuck Branwell) made a big strip of a scrambling QB and Josh Rivers fell on the loose ball to save the day.

Was a great game...Pep still goes back and watches the archived video in this off-season.

Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: meadowdale on May 14, 2017, 11:30:48 AM
Is western new england the team to beat again? Have not heard much about them this off season.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: D3MAFAN on May 16, 2017, 04:38:09 PM
Quote from: meadowdale on May 14, 2017, 11:30:48 AM
Is western new england the team to beat again? Have not heard much about them this off season.

Yes.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: ITH radio on May 17, 2017, 12:15:28 PM
I would agree. They've established themselves as an annual playoff contender and probably the top D3FB program in New England (that participates in the playoffs, at least). The fact that Service and Dietrich are back for their SR seasons will make them tough to beat. The production of Connell will need to be replaced but my guess is they "promote" Aiken and be just fine. Most of the defense will be back too.

The one thing that may be tougher in matching last season's 11-1 record is the fact the OOC schedule this year will be much tougher, but that said, the GBs will probably be favorites in all of them, except maybe (and that's a big maybe b/c of losses to graduation) St. Lawrence.

Endicott had a strong recruiting class and should be improved and Salve is lurking as well.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: meadowdale on June 01, 2017, 04:53:23 PM
Anyone heard on search for new AD at UNE?
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: dlippiel on June 02, 2017, 10:31:04 AM
Quote from: ITH radio on May 17, 2017, 12:15:28 PM
I would agree. They've established themselves as an annual playoff contender and probably the top D3FB program in New England (that participates in the playoffs, at least). The fact that Service and Dietrich are back for their SR seasons will make them tough to beat. The production of Connell will need to be replaced but my guess is they "promote" Aiken and be just fine. Most of the defense will be back too.

The one thing that may be tougher in matching last season's 11-1 record is the fact the OOC schedule this year will be much tougher, but that said, the GBs will probably be favorites in all of them, except maybe (and that's a big maybe b/c of losses to graduation) St. Lawrence.

Endicott had a strong recruiting class and should be improved and Salve is lurking as well.

Nice post ITH. Western New England has come a long way in the past decade. They have established themselves as a program to be reckoned with in NE and the East Region. They are most definitely the kings of NE and have showed that by consistently putting down determined Springfield teams the past few seasons. To dlip, with the return of both of the excellent players ITH named they should remain on top of the NE mountain and give fits to SLU and most certainly RPI.

Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: D3pc on June 03, 2017, 11:07:28 AM
Quote from: dlip on June 02, 2017, 10:31:04 AM
Quote from: ITH radio on May 17, 2017, 12:15:28 PM
I would agree. They've established themselves as an annual playoff contender and probably the top D3FB program in New England (that participates in the playoffs, at least). The fact that Service and Dietrich are back for their SR seasons will make them tough to beat. The production of Connell will need to be replaced but my guess is they "promote" Aiken and be just fine. Most of the defense will be back too.

The one thing that may be tougher in matching last season's 11-1 record is the fact the OOC schedule this year will be much tougher, but that said, the GBs will probably be favorites in all of them, except maybe (and that's a big maybe b/c of losses to graduation) St. Lawrence.


I think I said this on the LL thread awhile back - but with the tremendous losses to the St Lawrence defense and the hunger WNE should bring wanting to prove their strength, could be big trouble for the Larries.

Endicott had a strong recruiting class and should be improved and Salve is lurking as well.

Nice post ITH. Western New England has come a long way in the past decade. They have established themselves as a program to be reckoned with in NE and the East Region. They are most definitely the kinds of NE and have showed that by consistently putting down determined Springfield teams the past few seasons. To dlip, with the return of both of the excellent players ITH named they should remain on top of the NE mountain and give fits to SLU and most certainly RPI.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: meadowdale on June 04, 2017, 01:50:01 PM
So ready for football to get going..
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: ccd494 on June 05, 2017, 03:09:14 PM
Husson will join the CCC for football in 2019:

http://bangordailynews.com/2017/06/05/sports/husson-football-to-join-new-conference/?ref=SportsBox

Quote"Commonwealth Coast Football is delighted to welcome Husson University as our newest member," said CCC Commissioner Gregg M. Kaye in a release. "Husson is one of the strongest football programs among Division III private institutions in New England, and their addition makes CCC Football stronger.

"Since our September 2015 announcement that the New England Football Conference would be rebranded as Commonwealth Coast Football for the 2017 season, finding an eighth quality program has been a major priority for our membership. I am delighted that Husson has accepted our invitation to join CCC Football."
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: HansenRatings on June 21, 2017, 11:59:32 AM
Here's my preliminary projection for the CCC's 2017 season, which will be updated based on returning starters later in the summer:
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1T4Iq5u.png&hash=ccd8b11c6a3a59b3c59e2c517cf62561dfa71248)
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: d3fan142511 on June 28, 2017, 04:33:59 PM
Pre Sumer Camp Rankings:

1. WNEC
2. Endicott
3. Salve
4. Nichols
5. Curry
6. Becker
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: dlippiel on July 10, 2017, 10:08:40 AM
Congrats to Western New England University on their first (dlip believes) preseason d3football.com top 25 spot (#24)! dlip has watched this program grow from next to nothing and is proud of the Golden Bears and happy for their program and alums! Great ****ing job!
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: meadowdale on August 14, 2017, 07:38:35 PM
Had a great time this weekend at UNE first ever practice..I think Coach Lichten was well organized and I expect that team to make
great strides in the next few years..
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: AUPepBand on August 15, 2017, 09:25:03 AM
Quote from: meadowdale on August 14, 2017, 07:38:35 PM
Had a great time this weekend at UNE first ever practice..I think Coach Lichten was well organized and I expect that team to make
great strides in the next few years..

If you go again, please give Pep's regards to Assistant Coach Liam Hobbins, an outstanding member of AU's 12-1 Saxons of 2016.
Just tell him Pep is still waiting for him to return that overdue book at Herrick Library! Haha!

Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: meadowdale on August 16, 2017, 03:50:51 PM
Quote from: AUPepBand on August 15, 2017, 09:25:03 AM
Quote from: meadowdale on August 14, 2017, 07:38:35 PM
Had a great time this weekend at UNE first ever practice..I think Coach Lichten was well organized and I expect that team to make
great strides in the next few years..

If you go again, please give Pep's regards to Assistant Coach Liam Hobbins, an outstanding member of AU's 12-1 Saxons of 2016.
Just tell him Pep is still waiting for him to return that overdue book at Herrick Library! Haha!

Will do!!
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: ITH radio on August 25, 2017, 04:05:41 PM
https://youtu.be/0RX5dWkzeos

Endicott HC Kevin DeWall interview with CCC folks
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: d3fan142511 on August 31, 2017, 10:44:22 AM
MIT vs Becker - MIT 24-17

Nichols over Westfield (Score in MASAC Thread)

Fitchburg over CUrry (Score in MASAC Thread)

Salve over Worcester (Score in MASAC Thread)

Framingham over Endicott (Score in MASAC Thread)

WNEC vs Springfield - WNEC 35-21
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: MASCACAlum on September 02, 2017, 10:07:42 PM
Pretty disappointingweekend for the CCC but is Curry back??? Only time will tell...
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: meadowdale on September 08, 2017, 01:46:26 PM
Went to UNE vs Curry JV game and thought UNE looked really good for a first year team..
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: fulbakdad on September 10, 2017, 06:46:12 AM
Endicott had a wild ending yesterday.  Video of the final two passes going around on Twitter.  Soph Brendan Johnsons catch at midfield is a crazy good catch!
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: Boxer7806 on September 10, 2017, 09:03:35 AM
As a Bridgewater guy, quite the gut punch losing games the last two weeks with leads late in the 4th!!!! In the end you have to tip your cap and move on. It doesn't get any easier for the Bears with Framingham next week, but a win changes the whole season and puts them in the drivers seat for the auto bid.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: AUPepBand on September 10, 2017, 07:55:38 PM
Quote from: meadowdale on September 08, 2017, 01:46:26 PM
Went to UNE vs Curry JV game and thought UNE looked really good for a first year team..

Give Pep's best to Coach Liam Hobbins if you hit up another UNE contest!
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: fulbakdad on September 11, 2017, 12:34:43 PM
So Brendan Johnsons 1 handed catch in double coverage made it to Sports Center yesterday.  Impressive.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: ITH radio on September 11, 2017, 02:13:06 PM
Yep - nice to see Coach DeWall and his young program getting some national attention.

We covered it on our video podcast too. Frank didn't like the call, but hey, a win's a win.

http://fb.me/D3Huddle
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: Zlax45 on September 18, 2017, 10:52:48 AM
Been shooting Becker this year...Not much great action but some pics

https://foleyphotography.smugmug.com/Football/College-Football/2017-Season/MIT-at-Becker
https://foleyphotography.smugmug.com/Football/College-Football/2017-Season/Becker-at-Worcester-State
https://foleyphotography.smugmug.com/Football/College-Football/2017-Season/Becker-at-WPI
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: dlippiel on September 23, 2017, 11:47:09 AM
Billy Fucillo HUGE NEFB game today between CCC's WNE and ECFC's Husson.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: MASCACAlum on October 01, 2017, 10:26:22 PM
Bye week this week for everyone but Curry. Thinking this conference is wide open this year. What are people's thoughts going into league play?
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: Boxer7806 on October 03, 2017, 07:55:20 PM
Its either Salve or WNEC. I don't see any other team coming close to those two at this point. I'm going to give the slight edge to Salve at this point, even though WNEC has played the tougher schedule.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: Zlax45 on October 16, 2017, 10:21:21 PM
Photos from Curry's victory over Becker

https://foleyphotography.smugmug.com/Football/College-Football/2017-Season/Curry-College-at-Becker-College
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: meadowdale on October 20, 2017, 02:04:07 PM
I like the direction the Commonwealth is going with football...
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: dlippiel on October 20, 2017, 02:57:37 PM
dlip is looking forward to seeing how the Colonials do against WNE on the 4th of Nov. If they can beat Nichols and Endicott that WNE game will be big. dlip certainly favors WNE but it would be neat to see that "purple drank" get back on top...
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: meadowdale on October 31, 2017, 03:53:24 PM
What is going on out in CCC land people?
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: dlippiel on October 31, 2017, 08:51:00 PM
Dlip has always been and will always be a fan of WNE. With that said...

Let's ****ing go Purple Drank!!!!!
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: meadowdale on November 01, 2017, 06:11:05 PM
Quote from: dlip on October 31, 2017, 08:51:00 PM
Dlip has always been and will always be a fan of WNE. With that said...

Let's ****ing go Purple Drank!!!!!


WE ARE IN AGREEMENT!!!
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: UfanBill on November 02, 2017, 02:31:44 AM
Anybody think the CCC is headed towards a three way tie between Curry, WNE and Salve Regina? There's a real possibility it could happen. What's the CCC three way tie breaker?
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: Zlax45 on November 06, 2017, 11:09:38 AM
Photos from Salve's victory over Becker https://foleyphotography.smugmug.com/Football/College-Football/2017-Season/Salve-Regina-at-Becker-College-Football/
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: MASCACAlum on November 14, 2017, 09:38:42 PM
DeWall our at Endicott this is a job that everyone in the region will put in for any thoughts on early candidates? OC at Framingham has had some sucess
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: NED3Guy on November 15, 2017, 11:45:11 AM
EC hasn't had a winning season since 2013. (8-3, 5-5, 5-5, 5-5, 3-7)

After the 2013 season, when EC went 8-3, all three coordinators left. After 2014, head coach left. Were there institutional changes on the forefront (funding? admissions standards? financial aid support?) that those coaches saw coming and moved on in order to avoid? Or has the program just fallen on some lean years, and is ripe for a rebound?
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: Eagle322 on November 16, 2017, 09:18:17 AM
Ben Martin out of Union will definitely be in the mix for the HC job at Endicott. A former Trinity O-lineman (sound familiar Gulls fans?), he has been at Union for 2 years and preceded that with stints in the NFL and at Texas A&M. He is a North Shore guy to boot, so keep your eyes out for this guy taking the reigns for the Gulls next year.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: AUPepBand on November 16, 2017, 10:11:43 AM
Quote from: Eagle322 on November 16, 2017, 09:18:17 AM
Ben Martin out of Union will definitely be in the mix for the HC job at Endicott. A former Trinity O-lineman (sound familiar Gulls fans?), he has been at Union for 2 years and preceded that with stints in the NFL and at Texas A&M. He is a North Shore guy to boot, so keep your eyes out for this guy taking the reigns for the Gulls next year.

SO so sorry....I had the copy editor hat on and in reading this, just had to respond.

The Alfred football program was restored to respectability during the reign of Coach Dave Murray, who was handed the reins of the program by AD/Football Coach Jim Moretti.

Again, sorry for the interruption.

Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 16, 2017, 06:13:48 PM
Quote from: Eagle322 on November 16, 2017, 09:18:17 AM
Ben Martin out of Union will definitely be in the mix for the HC job at Endicott. A former Trinity O-lineman (sound familiar Gulls fans?), he has been at Union for 2 years and preceded that with stints in the NFL and at Texas A&M. He is a North Shore guy to boot, so keep your eyes out for this guy taking the reigns for the Gulls next year.

I was going to throw out that name too! I think he will be the guy if he applies. Well respected around the area as well.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: fulbakdad on November 18, 2017, 06:54:46 AM
Could Wells be returning?  If you follow the NESCAC board he was let go the other day.  Probably saw that recruiting in NESCAC very different than for Endicott,
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: Boxer7806 on November 21, 2017, 04:15:35 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on November 18, 2017, 06:54:46 AM
Could Wells be returning?  If you follow the NESCAC board he was let go the other day.  Probably saw that recruiting in NESCAC very different than for Endicott,

Was he let go? I just checked their website and couldn't find anything. I know their was a post referencing why he hadn't been criticized more for his poor record but most posters seemed to think he needed and should get more time.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: fulbakdad on November 22, 2017, 06:44:34 AM
Had to go back and re read.  I might have misunderstood someone's post from that board. Looks like they were saying, is he interested in going back to Endicott with the current opening because of his poor outcomes in NESCAC....
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: bsc73 on December 04, 2017, 09:01:32 PM
Assumption OC, Paul McDonagle new coach at Endicott.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: Boxer7806 on December 05, 2017, 09:07:40 AM
Quote from: bsc73 on December 04, 2017, 09:01:32 PM
Assumption OC, Paul McDonagle new coach at Endicott.

Makes a ton of sense. Coached TE's there after being let go at Fitchburg. Knows the league and the area pretty well. Did a hell of a job with Chesney (Old Salve Coach) at Assumption and put up a ton of points there the past 3 years. I watched the end of their quarterfinal game and they were a goal line stand away from being in the D2 semifinals. Really interested to see how he does there.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: D3MAFAN on December 05, 2017, 09:16:58 AM
That's definitely a really good hire. Hoping Endicott can get back to a 7+ win program and strengthen the region.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: NED3Guy on December 05, 2017, 12:52:03 PM
Hire announced just two days after Assumption season ended. Gotta believe that Endicott had their guy weeks ago and were just waiting for his season to end to make it official. Great hire by them. Wondering what he does with current assistant coaches and if he'll bring in some new coordinators.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: pumkinattack on December 05, 2017, 04:16:34 PM
You guys do realize Kevin was a 4.0 student in medical sciences and played DI lacrosse and a year of football (had foot problems or he would've played all four) before spending over a decade building Hobart into a national program recruiting both a national DPOY and the highest NFL draft pick out of D3 ever right?  I played with a Kevin and we were just starting to build something at a historically atrocious football program under Coach Cragg. 

My point is there's something amiss if he couldn't make it work there.  Even if he did bulk up to a pretty nasty SOS the prior few years.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: NED3Guy on December 06, 2017, 10:56:05 AM
I agree....there has to be some underlying issues as to why the Endicott program has fallen on hard times as of late. Kevin is a winner, he did things the right way, and will be successful at his next landing spot (Rochester maybe????).

Hopefully that administration is ready to address those issues and get things back on track with the new coach.

This conference will be VERY strong regionally once Endicott gets it rolling again, and Husson joins. WNE, Husson, a hopefully revived Endicott, Curry and Salve all capable of beating anybody. Each will also get some great out of conference wins to boost the league profile.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: pumkinattack on December 07, 2017, 01:10:30 AM
They fired him for a lack of success (again, on a pretty tough SOS), so it tells me mgt there blames him for the lack of success.  I fail to see how an assistant at a one decent season at Union College against a weak schedule (they beat us, which is what it is, Hobart crapped the bed this year with the personnel they had) is going to have more success under the same administration.  Color me skeptical until something else higher up the chain changes.  I'm not saying the AD is bad or has to go, but Kevin was a good hire and they decided they could do better.  Where's the superior overall resume?  I really thought he'd have them at the top, they always came to play against Hobart a lot tougher than LL and E8 teams in the past few years and played better than they did against Mass competition. 
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: fulbakdad on December 07, 2017, 06:50:30 AM
Pumpkin,

I think your view could be a little subjective.  If you look at the trend at Endicott, they are getting worse, not better under him.  This allowed Curry and Salve to slip ahead of them.

Where do you get the one time assistant at Union?  The new Head Coach was the Associate Head Coach and Offensive Coordinator at Assumption, d2, who has had a very good run the last couple years.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: Jonny Utah on December 07, 2017, 09:26:42 AM
Quote from: pumkinattack on December 07, 2017, 01:10:30 AM
They fired him for a lack of success (again, on a pretty tough SOS), so it tells me mgt there blames him for the lack of success.  I fail to see how an assistant at a one decent season at Union College against a weak schedule (they beat us, which is what it is, Hobart crapped the bed this year with the personnel they had) is going to have more success under the same administration.  Color me skeptical until something else higher up the chain changes.  I'm not saying the AD is bad or has to go, but Kevin was a good hire and they decided they could do better.  Where's the superior overall resume?  I really thought he'd have them at the top, they always came to play against Hobart a lot tougher than LL and E8 teams in the past few years and played better than they did against Mass competition.

Paul McGonagle was the offensive coordinator at Assumption last year and had one of the best offenses in the country.  Who is the Union assistant you are talking about?  I would say McGonagle's resume is much better that DeWall's as well.  Maybe DeWall couldn't recruit New England that well?  Maybe he didn't had great administrative skills?  Maybe he wasn't a leader?  Maybe the kids didn't like him? 

Just because you can't win doesn't mean it is the AD or schools fault.  From the outside, it looks like he didn't get a fair shot (3 years at a d3 school is pretty quick for a firing).  Maybe McGongagle showed interest and Endicott made the move?

And just because you have success at Hobart as a coordinator for 14 years doesn't mean you will be a great head coach. 
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: pumkinattack on December 07, 2017, 12:33:12 PM
Referring to the Ben Martin talk forgot they hired a guy.  I'm not saying he would 100% be successful, although record in isolation of SOS (#19 in all of D3) is misleading of course as you al know.  Maybe he failed and maybe these comments are blind optimism.  Or
Maybe the new coach is better, but he was fired after three years having built a heck of an experience (Utes, you should know better, remember 1990s and early 1990s Hobart football?) and proven track record building a program.  Maybe it's just blond optimiskm, but given his background, experience and track record in recruiting, coaching and developing players (and I reject he idea he's not a good Mgt, trust me he's all business, that I'd take to my grave, and a very smart and hard working guy-see my comment on his college background).

My point is no one is asking why this guy who's record regressed but has build a 10+ yr track record building success at century old program that had no success previously.  Obviously a Cragg, Yoder and others contributed to it as well, but I don't see anyone asking why this happened at this point given these circumstances but would rather just say "F it, he sucks, our new guy will definitely make us Stagg bound in a couple of years"
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: pumkinattack on December 07, 2017, 12:36:24 PM
Also, I'd take him back and bounce Drach in a heartbeat.  Have no doubt our offense would've performed better the past three years w him calling plays.  Have heard from a certain NFL player that Drachs calls are complex taking the kids half a season to really get comfortable w and the blocks are required to be held way too long at this level. 
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: Jonny Utah on December 07, 2017, 02:02:00 PM
Quote from: pumkinattack on December 07, 2017, 12:33:12 PM
Referring to the Ben Martin talk forgot they hired a guy.  I'm not saying he would 100% be successful, although record in isolation of SOS (#19 in all of D3) is misleading of course as you al know.  Maybe he failed and maybe these comments are blind optimism.  Or
Maybe the new coach is better, but he was fired after three years having built a heck of an experience (Utes, you should know better, remember 1990s and early 1990s Hobart football?) and proven track record building a program.  Maybe it's just blond optimiskm, but given his background, experience and track record in recruiting, coaching and developing players (and I reject he idea he's not a good Mgt, trust me he's all business, that I'd take to my grave, and a very smart and hard working guy-see my comment on his college background).

My point is no one is asking why this guy who's record regressed but has build a 10+ yr track record building success at century old program that had no success previously.  Obviously a Cragg, Yoder and others contributed to it as well, but I don't see anyone asking why this happened at this point given these circumstances but would rather just say "F it, he sucks, our new guy will definitely make us Stagg bound in a couple of years"

I hear ya, but just because you are a great coordinator, doesn't mean you will be a head coach. 

Maybe the administration didn't support him or wanted him to work with less than the previous coach did.  I have no clue about what is going on up there.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: meadowdale on December 09, 2017, 09:06:15 AM
After 1 year of traveling to the New England area from the west coast,(I GET IT NOW!!)
The amount of schools with football lends itself to if you have some talent or a lot of will your playing..
This is how its supposed to be, don't hang up the cleats till you want too.
The people everywhere were awesome, helpful and just the best to this other coaster. (nickname I received)
I look forward to next 3 years and I can't wait to see the excitement that comes from small school football.
It's also hard to find MOXIE out here having withdrawls.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: Bartman on December 09, 2017, 10:21:22 AM
Quote from: pumkinattack on December 07, 2017, 12:36:24 PM
Also, I'd take him back and bounce Drach in a heartbeat.  Have no doubt our offense would've performed better the past three years w him calling plays.  Have heard from a certain NFL player that Drachs calls are complex taking the kids half a season to really get comfortable w and the blocks are required to be held way too long at this level.
PA,
    I too would take Kevin back in an instant at Hobart in any role, but I don't think this was a good fit, and I am sure Kevin will have the last laugh as success is certainly in his future.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: meadowdale on December 17, 2017, 12:52:01 PM
Does anybody have a feel for UNE team for next fall..
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 03, 2018, 06:09:43 PM
Dropping this story into a few spots where perhaps Keystone might eventually find conference affiliation:
http://www.d3football.com/notables/2018/01/keystone-adds-football-brings-total-to-252
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: ITH radio on January 29, 2018, 12:03:42 PM
Quote from: meadowdale on December 17, 2017, 12:52:01 PM
Does anybody have a feel for UNE team for next fall..

Not yet, but they did release their 2018 schedule. Won't be easy with Husson and Hamden Sydney in the OOC games. Could surprise CGA in Wk 1, but guessing 3 wins would be their best case in Year 1.
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: mr_mom on March 07, 2018, 09:14:25 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/marjory-stoneman-douglas-qb-picks-d-iii-program-after-staff-protected-him/
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 10, 2018, 09:46:53 PM
Quote from: mr_mom on March 07, 2018, 09:14:25 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/marjory-stoneman-douglas-qb-picks-d-iii-program-after-staff-protected-him/
Sigh... Nicholls (State University Colonels) in Thibodeaux LA is Southland Conference, D-1 FCS
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: meadowdale on April 18, 2018, 03:55:28 PM
It's only been 3 months and I cannot wait for football to start again!!!
Love baseball it's just not the same!!!
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: meadowdale on May 12, 2018, 04:37:25 PM
Pretty big news out of WNE..
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: meadowdale on June 24, 2018, 11:10:50 AM
Somebody out there have any news on CCC teams this year..
Title: Re: FB: Commonwealth Coast Conference (was NEFC)
Post by: meadowdale on July 28, 2018, 07:23:29 PM
Turf is going down at UNE....
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Post by: fulbakdad on August 11, 2018, 07:30:18 AM
 Things don't look good for Gilmartin at Salve.   
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Post by: d3fan142511 on August 15, 2018, 10:51:50 AM
fulbakdad - As it what sense? taking a big step back this year?
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Post by: ITH radio on August 16, 2018, 12:07:06 PM
Originally reported by the Boston Globe:

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24344298/salve-regina-football-hazing-allegations-investigated-officials
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Post by: NE_FootballFan on August 29, 2018, 10:30:24 AM
2018 CCC Football Preseason Coaches' Poll

   Team   Points (First Place Votes)
1.   Western New England   48 (6)
2.   Salve Regina   36 (1)
T-3.   Curry   35
T-3.   Endicott   35
5.   Nichols   19
6.   Becker   15
7.   University of New England   8

http://www.cccathletics.com/sports/fball/2018-19/releases/2018FBPoll
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Post by: meadowdale on September 20, 2018, 07:03:52 PM
Gonna be a long tough year for UNE. There some are some bright spots and the effort is always there .
The new stadium and fan support is awesome. Once they get a few games and used to the speed i imagine the wins
will not be far behind. The school is really supportive and so is the community which is half the battle.
On a personal note the wins/losses are secondary to watching your kid play college football..
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Post by: meadowdale on December 16, 2018, 09:33:02 AM
  Little disappointed in the activity here at CCC.. I know there are some insiders out there.
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Post by: NED3Guy on December 16, 2018, 12:06:58 PM
You might pick up one or two posters from the ecfc with Husson's arrival.

That said, it was lonely in the ecfc board all year too, so maybe don't count on it.
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Post by: ccd494 on January 22, 2019, 01:52:35 PM
I guess this is officially CCC news:

Husson's HC retiring: https://bangordailynews.com/2019/01/22/sports/husson-university/gabby-price-steps-down-as-husson-university-football-coach/
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Post by: ITH radio on March 11, 2019, 12:32:14 PM
WNE coming down to Orlando to play FCS Stetson U is pretty interesting news to me. About 45 mins away - will have to try and drive up for that one. Hatters had a great 2018 season. Tall order for the Golden Bears. Curious how that one came together.

Stay tuned..
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Post by: Jonny Utah on March 11, 2019, 03:23:46 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on March 11, 2019, 12:32:14 PM
WNE coming down to Orlando to play FCS Stetson U is pretty interesting news to me. About 45 mins away - will have to try and drive up for that one. Hatters had a great 2018 season. Tall order for the Golden Bears. Curious how that one came together.

Stay tuned..

Wow.  Very interesting.
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Post by: Oline89 on March 11, 2019, 03:29:56 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on March 11, 2019, 03:23:46 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on March 11, 2019, 12:32:14 PM
WNE coming down to Orlando to play FCS Stetson U is pretty interesting news to me. About 45 mins away - will have to try and drive up for that one. Hatters had a great 2018 season. Tall order for the Golden Bears. Curious how that one came together.

Stay tuned..

Wow.  Very interesting.

Is there any financial benefit to a D3 team to play an FCS team?  Cool trip for the kids to head to Florida for a OOC game. 
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Post by: meadowdale on April 28, 2019, 12:21:21 PM
Wow ,there is no action here!!!!
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Post by: Gray Fox on June 26, 2019, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: meadowdale on April 28, 2019, 12:21:21 PM
Wow ,there is no action here!!!!
Even less than the SCIAC.  Sad. :-[
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Post by: ITH radio on June 26, 2019, 12:19:25 PM
The new conference branding / symbol looks pretty cool imo.
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Post by: MRMIKESMITH on June 28, 2019, 02:08:56 PM
Just here to see if there is any action  8-)
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Post by: meadowdale on June 28, 2019, 04:53:32 PM
Quote from: MANDGSU on June 28, 2019, 02:08:56 PM
Just here to see if there is any action  8-)

NOPE!!!!
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Post by: ITH radio on June 28, 2019, 08:58:56 PM
Here you go:

https://noontimesports.com/
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Post by: meadowdale on July 06, 2019, 11:46:22 AM
So, ready for football.
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Post by: Zlax45 on September 09, 2019, 11:19:57 AM
Photos posted from Becker's victory over Anna Maria https://www.foley-photography.com/Football/College-Football/2019-Season/Anna-Maria-College-at-Becker-College/
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Post by: ITH radio on September 22, 2019, 09:56:59 AM
Got a good look at WNE last night here in FL. They had the size and strength to compete with Stetson, but just couldn't execute as seamlessly as a FCS level program. The punting game also didn't do them any favors as they often had short fields to defend bc of it.

Still think it's them and EC for the CCC title. Going to be an interesting race, especially after how EC played Wesley yesterday. More of this on ITH Monday.
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Post by: Zlax45 on September 22, 2019, 02:41:49 PM
Photos from MIT's victory over Becker College https://www.foley-photography.com/Football/College-Football/2019-Season/MIT-at-Becker-College
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Post by: Jonny Utah on March 30, 2021, 09:04:22 AM
Becker College closing.  Sad news for a sad message board with little activity.

JU.
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Post by: ITH radio on April 06, 2021, 12:14:57 PM
Yeah, it's been quiet here for a long time.

At least there's a spring game coming up next weekend - Nichols @ WNE - which should be good
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Post by: MRMIKESMITH on July 20, 2021, 01:19:23 PM
Updated Open Dates:
Anna Maria - 9/4 (Wk1), 10/9 (Wk 6)
Gallaudet - 9/4 (Wk1), 9/11 (Wk2), 10/30 (Wk 9)
SUNY-Maritime - 9/4 (Wk1), 10/23 (Wk 8)
Misericordia - 9/4 (Wk 1), 11/13 (Wk 11)
Curry - 9/25 (Wk 4), 10/23 (Wk 8)
UNE - 9/25 (Wk 4), 10/16 (Wk 7)
MIT - 9/18 (Wk 3), 10/9 (Wk 6)
Merchant Marine - 9/11 (Wk 2), 11/6 (Wk 10)
Salisbury - 9/18 (Wk 3), 10/9 (Wk 6)
Rowan - 9/18 (Wk 3), 10/9 (Wk 6)
TCNJ - 9/18 (Wk 3), 10/30 (Wk 9)
Kean - 9/18 (Wk 3), 11/6 (Wk 10)

Updated Playing Matchmaker - If Kean and Merchant Marine reschedule their matchup from 9/25 to 11/6. We can fill out the schedule as noted.

Merchant Marine v. Curry - 9/25
Kean v. UNE - 9/25
Salisbury v. MIT - 10/9
Gallaudet v. Misericordia - 9/4
Gallaudet v. TCNJ - 10/30
Anna Maria v. Rowan - 10/9

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Post by: MRMIKESMITH on September 10, 2021, 09:37:34 PM
Great comeback by Endicott. Was a fun watch. QB can settle down, team can make some noise. WNE dominated from start to finish, could have been 60+ to 0.
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Post by: Zlax45 on September 11, 2021, 11:19:46 PM
Photos from Nichols epic comeback on Anna Maria

https://www.foley-photography.com/Football/College-Football/2021-Season/Nichols-at-Anna-Maria
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Post by: Zlax45 on September 26, 2021, 12:34:50 AM
Photos from the NJIT vs Nichols matchup

https://www.foley-photography.com/Football/College-Football/2021-Season/TCNJ-at-Nichols/
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Post by: MRMIKESMITH on October 03, 2021, 06:06:00 PM
I was really impressed with the way WNE dominated Salve this past weekend. I was expecting a barn burner, but we got was total domination by WNE. WNE defense is really stingy and plays aggressive and combined that with an efficient offense, I expect to see them back in the playoffs.
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Post by: MRMIKESMITH on October 10, 2021, 03:01:04 PM
Didn't get a chance to watch the Endicott vs. WNE game. However, from looking at the stat line, it appears Endicott came out fast and never really let WNE in the game. Congrats to Endicott on this big win and puts them in 1st place in the CC and with Catholic tied for 1st in the NEWMAC, Endicott is setting itself up very well with a key game against Husson who is a game behind.
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Post by: MRMIKESMITH on August 29, 2022, 02:49:14 PM
Hi Pollster's, just wanted to extend an invitation to join the ERFP for this upcoming season. We will continue to do R1/R2. Feel free to DM or respond here if interested. I'll reach out to last year participants to gauge any interest as well.
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Post by: ccd494 on February 20, 2023, 07:49:33 PM
Maine Maritime hires a head coach: https://marinersports.org/news/2023/2/20/maine-maritime-names-calvin-powell-as-next-head-football-coach.aspx
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Post by: ccd494 on June 16, 2023, 12:32:07 PM
New England College is adding football, are they headed to the CCC?

https://athletics.nec.edu/news/2023/6/15/new-england-college-adds-football-to-its-athletics-playbook.aspx
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Post by: Ralph Turner on July 07, 2023, 02:04:20 PM
Congrats on Endicott hosting Hardin-Simmons on 09/23!
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Post by: The Third Division on August 23, 2023, 02:04:50 PM
When did UNE get their blue turf field?
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Post by: Pat Coleman on August 23, 2023, 02:07:37 PM
Quote from: The Third Division on August 23, 2023, 02:04:50 PM
When did UNE get their blue turf field?

They've always had it, since before they added football.

https://www.d3football.com/notables/2014/12/university-new-england-adding-football
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Post by: The Third Division on August 23, 2023, 02:20:02 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 23, 2023, 02:07:37 PM
Quote from: The Third Division on August 23, 2023, 02:04:50 PM
When did UNE get their blue turf field?

They've always had it, since before they added football.

https://www.d3football.com/notables/2014/12/university-new-england-adding-football

Thanks!
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Post by: HansenRatings on August 30, 2023, 11:30:38 AM
Playoff projections for the season using my model's preseason ratings:

(https://i.imgur.com/RB8P7zU.png)

You can look at other conferences on my website: https://hansenratings.github.io/ (https://hansenratings.github.io/).
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Post by: sigma one on September 23, 2023, 10:41:35 AM
Fly, Gulls, Fly!
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Post by: Ralph Turner on September 25, 2023, 12:40:34 AM
Congrats Gulls.
Best wishes and I hope you make the playoffs.
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Post by: Ralph Turner on November 16, 2023, 10:56:56 AM
https://cccathletics.com/news/2023/11/14/new-england-college-set-to-join-commonwealth-coast-conference-as-an-associate-member-for-football.aspx

QuoteBEVERLY, Mass. – New England College is joining the Commonwealth Coast Conference (CCC) as an associate member in the sport of football beginning with the 2025-26 academic year, it was announced by Commissioner Patrick Colbert on Wednesday.

The League's football sponsorship includes CCC full members Curry College, Endicott College, Nichols College, University of New England and Western New England University. NEC joins Maine Maritime Academy (also joining in 2025-26) and Husson University as CCC associate members for football.

...

NEC President Dr. Wayne F. Lesperance, Jr. announced the return of football to the campus in June 2023, after a 50-year hiatus. The Pilgrims will play with a condensed season in the fall of 2024, followed by a full season of play in the fall of 2025.
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Post by: Pat Coleman on November 16, 2023, 11:33:09 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 16, 2023, 10:56:56 AM
https://cccathletics.com/news/2023/11/14/new-england-college-set-to-join-commonwealth-coast-conference-as-an-associate-member-for-football.aspx

QuoteBEVERLY, Mass. – New England College is joining the Commonwealth Coast Conference (CCC) as an associate member in the sport of football beginning with the 2025-26 academic year, it was announced by Commissioner Patrick Colbert on Wednesday.

The League's football sponsorship includes CCC full members Curry College, Endicott College, Nichols College, University of New England and Western New England University. NEC joins Maine Maritime Academy (also joining in 2025-26) and Husson University as CCC associate members for football.

...

NEC President Dr. Wayne F. Lesperance, Jr. announced the return of football to the campus in June 2023, after a 50-year hiatus. The Pilgrims will play with a condensed season in the fall of 2024, followed by a full season of play in the fall of 2025.

Was on the front page yesterday, but we had to push it down to make room for more playoff coverage.