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Title: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on November 26, 2019, 04:01:41 PM
When gbpuckfan posted on the Midwest football board today that Monmouth plays Wartburg and Hope next season in Non-Conference play and provided a link, well it got me thinking about how many other games are already announced out there. With over 230 teams already eliminated, I am guessing many of us have already turned our thoughts to the 2020 season. So creating a place to drop those nuggets of information seems like a good idea.

This is gbpuckfans link from earlier today.

https://prog.monmouthcollege.edu/gen/calendar/default.aspx?range=1September
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: jamtod on November 26, 2019, 04:12:10 PM
St Thomas has UW-Eau Claire and Benedictine (IL edition that almost attempted D2 but came back to the comforts of D3)
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: MRMIKESMITH on November 26, 2019, 04:16:51 PM
Salisbury non-conference is Albright (subject to change with MAC conference realignment), @UW-Oshkosh, Averett (Location TBA)
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 26, 2019, 04:54:49 PM
Are we expecting a MAC realignment?
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: MRMIKESMITH on November 26, 2019, 05:02:57 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 26, 2019, 04:54:49 PM
Are we expecting a MAC realignment?

I meant match-up realignment. Whereas Salisbury would play Delaware Valley, Wesley vs. Wilkes, and so forth...

Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 26, 2019, 05:10:44 PM
There isn't a coordinated NJAC/MAC scheduling agreement.
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on November 26, 2019, 05:12:29 PM
Does the MAC and the NJAC play a set of conference challenge games each year?
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on November 26, 2019, 05:14:38 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 26, 2019, 05:10:44 PM
There isn't a coordinated NJAC/MAC scheduling agreement.

That answers my question. I hadn't heard of an agreement between the conferences.
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: MRMIKESMITH on November 26, 2019, 05:20:22 PM
Quote from: Baldini on November 26, 2019, 05:14:38 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 26, 2019, 05:10:44 PM
There isn't a coordinated NJAC/MAC scheduling agreement.

That answers my question. I hadn't heard of an agreement between the conferences.

I just somewhat assumed with Wesley vs. Delaware Valley, Salisbury vs. Albright, Rowan vs. Widener, Frostburg* vs. Stevenson, FDU-Florham vs. TCNJ there was some type of "mutual agreement," maybe there isn't and it only made sense due to locale of each school to one another and each teams 5 to 10 year success and possibly having difficulty scheduling games.

Would be nice if that was the case, NJAC/MAC challenge has a good ring to it.
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 26, 2019, 05:23:29 PM
Working from the PrestoSports database of 2020 schedules -- these are just from the teams who have posted full schedules:

Albion plays Mount St. Joseph, Defiance and Aurora.

Dean plays Fitchburg State, Husson, Mass-Dartmouth and Kean.

Hiram plays Bethany.

Kalamazoo plays Oberlin, Central and Concordia (Wis.).

Mass-Dartmouth plays Husson and Dean.

Mount Union's home-and-home with Westminster (Pa.), which we first heard about in podcast episode 195, starts this year.
http://www.d3blogs.com/d3football/2018/05/14/atn-podcast-195-face-to-face/

Rose-Hulman plays Wabash, Trine and Benedictine.

Sewanee plays Southwestern and Washington & Lee.

Shenandoah plays Methodist and N.C. Wesleyan.

Whitworth has Occidental and Claremont-Mudd-Scripps.
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: wally_wabash on November 26, 2019, 05:28:15 PM
Quote from: MANDGSU on November 26, 2019, 05:20:22 PM
Would be nice if that was the case, NJAC/MAC challenge has a good ring to it.

Yes and no.  Those agreements do make filling the schedule out for easier for those teams, but it also creates what amounts to a closed system between those two leagues and fewer intersecting data points for the data sets they rely on in the primary criteria used for selection and seeding.
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: crufootball on November 26, 2019, 05:40:27 PM
Simpson College and UMHB will start a 2 year series next year with Simpson coming to Belton in 2020 and UMHB going to Simpson in 2021.
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 26, 2019, 05:54:53 PM
As far as I know Huntingdon has the final year of the 4 year set with Guilford, the usual week 2 against BSC, and the second half of the home-and-home with Oshkosh.
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on November 26, 2019, 05:57:02 PM
Is it safe to assume that most of the non-conference agreements between D-3 schools are 2 year home and home agreements? And if that is so, we should be able to assume opponents and locations by reviewing schedules from the past 2 seasons. No?   
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: bluestreak66 on November 26, 2019, 06:20:23 PM
According to John Carroll's website, they have a one off against Ithaca next year before a home and home with Washington and Jefferson in 21-22
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 26, 2019, 06:57:37 PM
Quote from: Baldini on November 26, 2019, 05:57:02 PM
Is it safe to assume that most of the non-conference agreements between D-3 schools are 2 year home and home agreements? And if that is so, we should be able to assume opponents and locations by reviewing schedules from the past 2 seasons. No?   

If you're looking for a general assumption, yes, but it isn't a hard and fast rule. Any conference that has changed the number of members in recent years is going to be in a spot where non-conference schedules could easily shuffle. People will have one-offs in their schedule.
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on November 26, 2019, 09:02:36 PM
2020 NACC-MIAA Challenge Series games to be played on Sept. 19th.

Albion @ Aurora
Adrian @ Benedictine
Olivet @ Eureka
Hope @ Concordia-Chicago
Kalamazoo @ Concordia-Wisconsin
Finlandia @ Lakeland
Alma @ Wisconsin Lutheran
Trine @ Rockford
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on November 27, 2019, 07:38:25 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 26, 2019, 05:54:53 PM
As far as I know we have the final year of the 4 year set with Guilford, the usual week 2 against BSC, and the second half of the home-and-home with Oshkosh.

Who is 'we'?
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 27, 2019, 10:07:55 AM
Quote from: Baldini on November 27, 2019, 07:38:25 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 26, 2019, 05:54:53 PM
As far as I know we have the final year of the 4 year set with Guilford, the usual week 2 against BSC, and the second half of the home-and-home with Oshkosh.

Who is 'we'?
Sorry. That's Huntingdon.
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Bob.Gregg on November 27, 2019, 10:02:22 PM
9/5/20  Wash & Jeff at Wittenberg
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 29, 2019, 11:30:25 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 27, 2019, 10:07:55 AM
Quote from: Baldini on November 27, 2019, 07:38:25 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 26, 2019, 05:54:53 PM
As far as I know we have the final year of the 4 year set with Guilford, the usual week 2 against BSC, and the second half of the home-and-home with Oshkosh.

Who is 'we'?
Sorry. That's Huntingdon.
Selina Hastings, the Countess of Huntingdon, was a philanthropist and patroness of  John Wesley and the Methodist movement in England. She is for whom the college, formerly a women's college, is named.
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on December 02, 2019, 12:24:50 PM
Quote from: Baldini on November 26, 2019, 09:02:36 PM
2020 NACC-MIAA Challenge Series games to be played on Sept. 19th.

Albion @ Aurora
Adrian @ Benedictine
Olivet @ Eureka
Hope @ Concordia-Chicago
Kalamazoo @ Concordia-Wisconsin
Finlandia @ Lakeland
Alma @ Wisconsin Lutheran
Trine @ Rockford

Additional NACC non-conferences games. (Subject to change)

Aurora - @ St. John's and UW-River Falls
Benedictine - Rose-Hulman and St. Thomas (Minn.)
Eureka - @ MacMurray
Lakeland - @ Lawrence
Concordia-Wisconsin - @ Martin Luther and @ Beloit
Concordia-Chicago - Beloit and @ Chicago
Rockford - @ Grinnell and Greenville
Wisconsin Lutheran - @ Lake Forest and Martin Luther

Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on December 02, 2019, 03:13:28 PM
Looks like MWC Beloit will start with games against Concordia-Chicago, Concordia-Wisconsin and Crown.
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on December 03, 2019, 01:56:29 PM
Grinnell has Lake Forest, Macalester, Rockford and St. Norbert.
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on December 03, 2019, 02:06:15 PM
Martin Luther has Concordia-Wisconsin and @ Wisconsin Lutheran.
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on December 05, 2019, 03:37:32 PM
Wheaton is at Northwestern (Minn.).
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: TheChucker on December 05, 2019, 03:44:18 PM
Quote from: Baldini on December 05, 2019, 03:37:32 PM
Wheaton is at Northwestern (Minn.).

Oof. Big challenge for Northwestern to keep the score respectful.
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: wally_wabash on December 05, 2019, 04:00:09 PM
Quote from: Baldini on December 05, 2019, 03:37:32 PM
Wheaton is at Northwestern (Minn.).

Seems Wheaton has figured out how to butter the SOS bread. 
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on December 06, 2019, 08:42:24 AM
Besides having Wheaton at home, Northwestern also travels to Buena Vista.
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on December 06, 2019, 09:02:51 AM
The ARC so far.

Central - Kalamazoo
Wartburg - Monmouth, Gustavus Adolphus
Dubuque - @ Marietta, UW-LaCrosse
Coe -
Loras - St. Norbert, @ UW-Eau Claire
Simpson - Mary Hardin-Baylor, @ UW-Stevens Point
Buena Vista - @ Gustavus Adolphus, Northwestern
Nebraska Wesleyan - Westminster (Mo.), Augsburg
Luther -  Whittier, @ St. Olaf
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on December 06, 2019, 12:00:05 PM
The UMAC so far.

Martin Luther - Concordia-Wisconsin & Wisconsin Lutheran
Greenville - Rockford & Millikin
St. Scholastica - UW-River Falls & Hamline
MacMurray - Olivet & Eureka
Westminster (Mo.) - Nebraska Wesleyan
Northwestern - Wheaton & Buena Vista
Crown - Beloit & Carleton
Minnesota-Morris -
Iowa Wesleyan - Knox
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 07, 2019, 04:37:54 PM
Wesley plays host to Franklin Pierce on Sept. 5. Per Franklin Pierce's website.
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on December 08, 2019, 10:37:48 PM
UW-River Falls opens at home against St. Scholastica and also has a home date with Aurora.
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on December 12, 2019, 10:21:57 AM
Concordia-Chicago - Beloit and @ Chicago

Lakeland - @ Lawrence and ???
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on January 06, 2020, 01:40:55 PM
Concordia-Moorhead opens with UW-Lacrosse at home and UW-Whitewater on the road.

Hamline opens with St. Scholastica on the road and Macalester at home.
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: ADL70 on January 07, 2020, 05:01:56 PM
CWRU again has SoS killing Rochester.   >:(
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on January 13, 2020, 12:54:56 PM
Carleton opens at Macalester and hosts Crown the 2nd week.
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on January 14, 2020, 06:09:08 PM
The MIAC 2020 football Non-Conference so far.

Augsburg - Ripon, @ Neb. Wesleyan
Bethel - North Park, @ UW-Platteville
Carleton - @ Macalester, Crown
Concordia-Moorhead - UW-La Crosse, @ UW-Whitewater
GAC - Buena Vista, @ Wartburg
Hamline - @ St. Scholastica, Macalester
St. John's - Aurora
St. Olaf - @ UW-Stout, Luther
St. Thomas - UW-Eau Claire, Benedictine (Ill.)

Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on January 18, 2020, 11:43:17 AM
Rose-Hulman opens at Wabash, Trine at home, at Benedictine.
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on January 25, 2020, 09:19:36 AM
The CCIW so far.

Augustana - Rhodes
https://athletics.augustana.edu/sports/football/schedule

Carthage - UW-Whitewater
https://athletics.carthage.edu/sports/football/schedule

Ill. Wesleyan - Franklin

Millikin - Greenville

North Central - Christopher Newport
https://northcentralcardinals.com/sports/football/schedule

North Park - Bethel (Minn.)
https://athletics.northpark.edu/sports/football/schedule

Wheaton - Northwestern (Minn.)

Washington - Chicago
https://washubears.com/sports/fball/2020-21/schedule

Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on January 25, 2020, 01:10:11 PM
3 from the NWC.

Linfield - Rowan, Redlands
https://golinfieldwildcats.com/sports/football/schedule

Whitworth - @ Occidental, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
https://www.whitworthpirates.com/sports/fball/2020-21/schedule

Pacific Lutheran - Cal Lutheran, @ La Verne
https://golutes.com/sports/football/schedule/2020
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on January 27, 2020, 09:44:36 AM
Quote from: Baldini on January 18, 2020, 11:43:17 AM
Rose-Hulman opens at Wabash, Trine at home, at Benedictine.

Another HCAC.

Franklin opens with Ill. Wesleyan, @ Rhodes, @UW-Platteville
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: bluestreak66 on February 10, 2020, 12:17:36 PM
4 from the OAC so far:

Mount Union will host Westminster (PA)
Heidelberg will host Adrian
Ohio Northern will host Denison

John Carroll travels to Ithaca for a one game series.

Not related to 2020, but John Carroll has their non-conference scheduled through 2024. They have a home-and-home with Washington and Jefferson in 21-22, followed by a home-and-home with UW-Whitewater in 23-24
Title: Re: 2020 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 10, 2020, 02:43:27 PM
We have six in for the OAC so far:

https://www.d3football.com/conf/OAC/2020/schedule
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on December 18, 2021, 08:55:50 PM
OK Mary Hardin-Baylor has had 24 hours to enjoy their victory, time to move onto 2022.  ;D

If anyone has info on 2022 team schedules and would like to share, this would be a good spot for it.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: WLCALUM83 on December 19, 2021, 11:49:31 AM
NACC: (so far)

Aurora:  https://athletics.aurora.edu/sports/football/schedule/2022
St. Norbert:  https://athletics.snc.edu/sports/football/schedule/2022
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on December 19, 2021, 09:27:33 PM
Anything on the PrestoSports database yet, Pat?
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: ADL70 on December 22, 2021, 03:20:20 PM
https://athletics.case.edu/sports/fball/future

Hopkins @ CWRU 9/3/2022
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Riley Zayas on December 22, 2021, 07:50:13 PM
The ASC has lost Belhaven moving into 2022, so that means that those ASC schools will need to schedule 2 non-conf. opponents versus the usual one. Belhaven announced the decision last month, which means the ASC's coaches are working to find a second non-conf. game. Chances are, one non-conf. game was already in place, but they'll need to find a second. Don't be surprised if you see a number of ASC schools playing NAIA or D2 opponents in 2022.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Inkblot on December 23, 2021, 02:00:24 AM
Quote from: ADL70 on December 22, 2021, 03:20:20 PM
https://athletics.case.edu/sports/fball/future

Hopkins @ CWRU 9/3/2022

It looks like the Waynesburg game is a "non-conference" game. The PAC is back to 11 teams, so they're playing 8 official conference games and 2 non-conference.

Carnegie Mellon's schedule is out (https://athletics.cmu.edu/sports/fball/2022-23/schedule). They have Whitworth and RPI.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: MRMIKESMITH on December 23, 2021, 12:37:54 PM
Quote from: NEd3ALUM on December 22, 2021, 07:00:27 PM
Not sure who will fill the spots but NJAC teams who were at 9 games will be back to 10 games - so some new matchups on the horizon potentially.

Which teams are those? I'm curious, because Salisbury currently has wk 2 and wk 3 available. Unless there was some conference to conference agreements.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: ADL70 on December 23, 2021, 08:57:25 PM
Quote from: Inkblot on December 23, 2021, 02:00:24 AM
Quote from: ADL70 on December 22, 2021, 03:20:20 PM
https://athletics.case.edu/sports/fball/future

Hopkins @ CWRU 9/3/2022

It looks like the Waynesburg game is a "non-conference" game. The PAC is back to 11 teams, so they're playing 8 official conference games and 2 non-conference.

Carnegie Mellon's schedule is out (https://athletics.cmu.edu/sports/fball/2022-23/schedule). They have Whitworth and RPI.

Good catch on Waynesburg CWRU
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on December 24, 2021, 06:41:23 AM
Coe plays Cornell and Hope.

https://kohawkathletics.com/sports/football/schedule/2022

Nebraska Wesleyan has a complete schedule out, plays Eureka and Mayville State in non-conference.

https://nwusports.com/sports/football/schedule
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on December 24, 2021, 07:03:08 AM
Augsburg has a complete schedule up; they play Northwestern (MN) and Martin Luther in non-conference action.

https://athletics.augsburg.edu/sports/football/schedule

Bethel has a conference play only schedule up.

https://athletics.bethel.edu/sports/football/schedule/2022

Hamline has a complete schedule up; they play Crown and Minnesota-Morris in non-conference action.

https://hamlineathletics.com/sports/football/schedule/2022

Saint John's only lists one non-conference game so far and that is UW-Whitewater.

Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on December 24, 2021, 09:17:24 AM
Looks like Greenville still needs one more non-conference game, currently have Millikin, Rockford and Adrian.

https://athletics.greenville.edu/sports/fball/schedule22
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Riley Zayas on December 24, 2021, 10:19:26 AM
Mount Union has at least a portion of its schedule up...opens season vs Defiance on Sept. 3.

https://athletics.mountunion.edu/sports/football/schedule/2022
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: MonroviaCat on December 24, 2021, 12:19:40 PM
Linfield is reported to be playing Huntingdon and Redlands to open the season (was announced during a broadcast but no link found yet)
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: UMHB03 on December 24, 2021, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: True To The Cru on December 22, 2021, 07:50:13 PM
The ASC has lost Belhaven moving into 2022, so that means that those ASC schools will need to schedule 2 non-conf. opponents versus the usual one. Belhaven announced the decision last month, which means the ASC's coaches are working to find a second non-conf. game. Chances are, one non-conf. game was already in place, but they'll need to find a second. Don't be surprised if you see a number of ASC schools playing NAIA or D2 opponents in 2022.
Wouldn't the ASC teams need a total of 3 non-conference games after losing Belhaven and Southwestern?
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Riley Zayas on December 24, 2021, 03:02:03 PM
Quote from: UMHB03 on December 24, 2021, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: True To The Cru on December 22, 2021, 07:50:13 PM
The ASC has lost Belhaven moving into 2022, so that means that those ASC schools will need to schedule 2 non-conf. opponents versus the usual one. Belhaven announced the decision last month, which means the ASC's coaches are working to find a second non-conf. game. Chances are, one non-conf. game was already in place, but they'll need to find a second. Don't be surprised if you see a number of ASC schools playing NAIA or D2 opponents in 2022.
Wouldn't the ASC teams need a total of 3 non-conference games after losing Belhaven and Southwestern?

Southwestern isn't moving to the SAA until 2023. So for '22, they'll only need 2 non-conf. since they're going to 8 conf. games. But next year, if the ASC cannot find another program to join the conference, then it will mean scheduling 3 games. Tough part of Belhaven leaving so late in the year is that is drastically limits the amount of teams who ASC programs can play for that second non-conf. game.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 24, 2021, 05:02:52 PM
Quote from: Baldini on December 19, 2021, 09:27:33 PM
Anything on the PrestoSports database yet, Pat?

We have to create 28 conference pages and 240-some team pages in order to display them, so that'll happen, but not immediately.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: UMHB03 on December 24, 2021, 05:44:37 PM
Quote from: True To The Cru on December 24, 2021, 03:02:03 PM
Quote from: UMHB03 on December 24, 2021, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: True To The Cru on December 22, 2021, 07:50:13 PM
The ASC has lost Belhaven moving into 2022, so that means that those ASC schools will need to schedule 2 non-conf. opponents versus the usual one. Belhaven announced the decision last month, which means the ASC's coaches are working to find a second non-conf. game. Chances are, one non-conf. game was already in place, but they'll need to find a second. Don't be surprised if you see a number of ASC schools playing NAIA or D2 opponents in 2022.
Wouldn't the ASC teams need a total of 3 non-conference games after losing Belhaven and Southwestern?

Southwestern isn't moving to the SAA until 2023. So for '22, they'll only need 2 non-conf. since they're going to 8 conf. games. But next year, if the ASC cannot find another program to join the conference, then it will mean scheduling 3 games. Tough part of Belhaven leaving so late in the year is that is drastically limits the amount of teams who ASC programs can play for that second non-conf. game.
Gotcha. For some reason I thought Southwestern was leaving in 2022. I really hope the Crusaders don't have to resort to scheduling an NAIA team. If they can't find a D3 opponent, I'd be a lot more interested in scheduling a D2 opponent and see how they stack up since it won't count as a W or L in the standings anyway.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Hawks88 on December 24, 2021, 09:02:09 PM
Quote from: MonroviaCat on December 24, 2021, 12:19:40 PM
Linfield is reported to be playing Huntingdon and Redlands to open the season (was announced during a broadcast but no link found yet)
I was told back during the regular season that Linfield would be coming to Huntingdon week 1 next season. Unfortunately it isn't a home-and-home, just the single game as we are already lined up to play Berry week 1 in '23 and '24. When I heard about the match-up I was hoping for a chance to take a trip to Oregon at some point.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Riley Zayas on December 24, 2021, 11:54:24 PM
Quote from: UMHB03 on December 24, 2021, 05:44:37 PM
Quote from: True To The Cru on December 24, 2021, 03:02:03 PM
Quote from: UMHB03 on December 24, 2021, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: True To The Cru on December 22, 2021, 07:50:13 PM
The ASC has lost Belhaven moving into 2022, so that means that those ASC schools will need to schedule 2 non-conf. opponents versus the usual one. Belhaven announced the decision last month, which means the ASC's coaches are working to find a second non-conf. game. Chances are, one non-conf. game was already in place, but they'll need to find a second. Don't be surprised if you see a number of ASC schools playing NAIA or D2 opponents in 2022.
Wouldn't the ASC teams need a total of 3 non-conference games after losing Belhaven and Southwestern?

Southwestern isn't moving to the SAA until 2023. So for '22, they'll only need 2 non-conf. since they're going to 8 conf. games. But next year, if the ASC cannot find another program to join the conference, then it will mean scheduling 3 games. Tough part of Belhaven leaving so late in the year is that is drastically limits the amount of teams who ASC programs can play for that second non-conf. game.
Gotcha. For some reason I thought Southwestern was leaving in 2022. I really hope the Crusaders don't have to resort to scheduling an NAIA team. If they can't find a D3 opponent, I'd be a lot more interested in scheduling a D2 opponent and see how they stack up since it won't count as a W or L in the standings anyway.

I would agree. Depending on scheduling availability, a WT A&M or Oklahoma Baptist might be a good D2 opponent within driving distance. Looking at the open dates page on D3football.com, looks like UMHB still have open dates on Week 2 and Week 9. Not sure if one of those will serve as a bye week and the other will be their second non-conf. game or not. Time will tell as more schedules are released. Yes, Southwestern's timeline is what you'd expect from a program transitioning conferences; leaving an additional year before the move to provide for a smooth transition. But Belhaven was incredibly sudden in its decision, and I would imagine left a lot of coaches, not just football, but also volleyball, in a tough position scheduling-wise, because a lot of programs have already set up their non-conf. games for next year.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on December 25, 2021, 08:18:24 AM
Where is Belhaven moving to?
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Riley Zayas on December 25, 2021, 09:43:12 AM
Quote from: Baldini on December 25, 2021, 08:18:24 AM
Where is Belhaven moving to?

The USA South. Makes more sense for travel, with Louisiana College having left for the NAIA. Every trip is to Texas or Arkansas for them. At least there are more teams in a closer proximity now in the USA South.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Etchglow on December 25, 2021, 09:56:46 AM
Quote from: True To The Cru on December 25, 2021, 09:43:12 AM
Quote from: Baldini on December 25, 2021, 08:18:24 AM
Where is Belhaven moving to?

The USA South. Makes more sense for travel, with Louisiana College having left for the NAIA. Every trip is to Texas or Arkansas for them. At least there are more teams in a closer proximity now in the USA South.

I don't have it handy, but I'm pretty sure when I put the members of the USA South into the ncaa travel distance calculator, the average distance was actually higher than in the ASC. It was something small like 50 miles average.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on December 25, 2021, 10:16:22 AM
Quote from: Etchglow on December 25, 2021, 09:56:46 AM
Quote from: True To The Cru on December 25, 2021, 09:43:12 AM
Quote from: Baldini on December 25, 2021, 08:18:24 AM
Where is Belhaven moving to?

The USA South. Makes more sense for travel, with Louisiana College having left for the NAIA. Every trip is to Texas or Arkansas for them. At least there are more teams in a closer proximity now in the USA South.

I don't have it handy, but I'm pretty sure when I put the members of the USA South into the ncaa travel distance calculator, the average distance was actually higher than in the ASC. It was something small like 50 miles average.

I realize there is more than football in life, but is it possible there is a Mary Hardin-Baylor/Hardin-Simmons factor involved with that decision? No disrespect to Huntingdon and the other members of the USAC, but Belhaven now has a playoff chance in their new home.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 25, 2021, 06:46:51 PM
In Division III, football needs rarely are the sole driver in switching full conferences like this.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Etchglow on December 25, 2021, 07:22:17 PM
Quote from: Etchglow on December 25, 2021, 09:56:46 AM
Quote from: True To The Cru on December 25, 2021, 09:43:12 AM
Quote from: Baldini on December 25, 2021, 08:18:24 AM
Where is Belhaven moving to?

The USA South. Makes more sense for travel, with Louisiana College having left for the NAIA. Every trip is to Texas or Arkansas for them. At least there are more teams in a closer proximity now in the USA South.

I don't have it handy, but I'm pretty sure when I put the members of the USA South into the ncaa travel distance calculator, the average distance was actually higher than in the ASC. It was something small like 50 miles average.

Here it is:

ETBU                 260
Austin College   464
UMHB                487
Southwestern   566
McMurry           588
HSU                  589
HPU                   590
TLU                   606
Sul Ross           908

Average:           562
W/o SW:           561.5


Huntingdon                250
LaGrange                   364
Maryville (Tenn)           493
Brevard                   551
Greensboro           714
Methodist                   764
Southern Virginia   795
N.C. Wesleyan           851
Average:                   597.75

Granted, this is just for football.  So, one fewer trip (until Southwestern leaves the ASC) and one more shorter than 400.  But four over 700 vs one over 700 (if I punched the numbers into the NCAA distance calculator right). 


Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Cowboy2 on December 26, 2021, 12:12:03 AM
May not benefit next season, but if they're stuck in a hard place for '23 they could always play the seven regular season conference games, then divide the conference into halves (4&4), and play a small round robin. Then the top two play for an ASC championship. That would make a problem with 11 total games, but its a thought.

East:
Austin
ETBU
TLU
UMHB

West:
McMurry
HPU
HSU
Sul Ross
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Riley Zayas on December 26, 2021, 09:46:36 AM
Shenandoah has their 2022 schedule posted:
https://suhornets.com/sports/football/schedule/2022
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on December 26, 2021, 10:21:56 AM
Quote from: True To The Cru on December 26, 2021, 09:46:36 AM
Shenandoah has their 2022 schedule posted:
https://suhornets.com/sports/football/schedule/2022

Didn't realize that Averett was going to the ODAC, will be an 8-team football conference for 2022. 
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on December 26, 2021, 04:26:52 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 24, 2021, 05:02:52 PM
Quote from: Baldini on December 19, 2021, 09:27:33 PM
Anything on the PrestoSports database yet, Pat?

We have to create 28 conference pages and 240-some team pages in order to display them, so that'll happen, but not immediately.

No tidbits of interest to share.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Inkblot on December 26, 2021, 07:41:23 PM
Eastern is set to begin MAC play in 2023; will they play more of a club schedule in 2022 like Keystone did in 2019?

No word yet on Hilbert's conference affiliation.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Hawks88 on December 26, 2021, 09:40:55 PM
Quote from: True To The Cru on December 26, 2021, 09:46:36 AM
Shenandoah has their 2022 schedule posted:
https://suhornets.com/sports/football/schedule/2022
Yeah, I had heard something about that ODAC/USA South Challenge in week 3. If that challenge stays then it would mean the USA South wouldn't be able to play a full round robin with Belhaven added. Not a fan of not playing a full round robin.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Inkblot on December 27, 2021, 02:22:33 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on December 26, 2021, 09:40:55 PM
Quote from: True To The Cru on December 26, 2021, 09:46:36 AM
Shenandoah has their 2022 schedule posted:
https://suhornets.com/sports/football/schedule/2022
Yeah, I had heard something about that ODAC/USA South Challenge in week 3. If that challenge stays then it would mean the USA South wouldn't be able to play a full round robin with Belhaven added. Not a fan of not playing a full round robin.

Could they not just have 8 teams play conference games in Week 2?
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on December 27, 2021, 03:51:33 AM
Quote from: Inkblot on December 27, 2021, 02:22:33 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on December 26, 2021, 09:40:55 PM
Quote from: True To The Cru on December 26, 2021, 09:46:36 AM
Shenandoah has their 2022 schedule posted:
https://suhornets.com/sports/football/schedule/2022
Yeah, I had heard something about that ODAC/USA South Challenge in week 3. If that challenge stays then it would mean the USA South wouldn't be able to play a full round robin with Belhaven added. Not a fan of not playing a full round robin.

Could they not just have 8 teams play conference games in Week 2?
Teams probably already had non-conference games set up before Belhaven joined and aren't going to cancel them leaving their opponents scrambling to find a replacement. I'd expect in a year or two it'd be back to a full round robin.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on December 27, 2021, 04:53:09 AM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on December 27, 2021, 03:51:33 AM
Quote from: Inkblot on December 27, 2021, 02:22:33 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on December 26, 2021, 09:40:55 PM
Quote from: True To The Cru on December 26, 2021, 09:46:36 AM
Shenandoah has their 2022 schedule posted:
https://suhornets.com/sports/football/schedule/2022
Yeah, I had heard something about that ODAC/USA South Challenge in week 3. If that challenge stays then it would mean the USA South wouldn't be able to play a full round robin with Belhaven added. Not a fan of not playing a full round robin.

Could they not just have 8 teams play conference games in Week 2?
Teams probably already had non-conference games set up before Belhaven joined and aren't going to cancel them leaving their opponents scrambling to find a replacement. I'd expect in a year or two it'd be back to a full round robin.

Scheduling numbers don't change for the USAC, Belhaven in and Averett out. No need to adjust non-conference games already setup or am I missing something.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on December 27, 2021, 05:35:09 AM
Quote from: Baldini on December 27, 2021, 04:53:09 AM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on December 27, 2021, 03:51:33 AM
Quote from: Inkblot on December 27, 2021, 02:22:33 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on December 26, 2021, 09:40:55 PM
Quote from: True To The Cru on December 26, 2021, 09:46:36 AM
Shenandoah has their 2022 schedule posted:
https://suhornets.com/sports/football/schedule/2022
Yeah, I had heard something about that ODAC/USA South Challenge in week 3. If that challenge stays then it would mean the USA South wouldn't be able to play a full round robin with Belhaven added. Not a fan of not playing a full round robin.

Could they not just have 8 teams play conference games in Week 2?
Teams probably already had non-conference games set up before Belhaven joined and aren't going to cancel them leaving their opponents scrambling to find a replacement. I'd expect in a year or two it'd be back to a full round robin.

Scheduling numbers don't change for the USAC, Belhaven in and Averett out. No need to adjust non-conference games already setup or am I missing something.
But the changes weren't announced at the same time were they? Teams could have already been scheduling for one fewer conference game before Belhaven joined.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Hawks88 on December 27, 2021, 08:28:16 AM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on December 27, 2021, 05:35:09 AM
Quote from: Baldini on December 27, 2021, 04:53:09 AM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on December 27, 2021, 03:51:33 AM
Quote from: Inkblot on December 27, 2021, 02:22:33 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on December 26, 2021, 09:40:55 PM
Quote from: True To The Cru on December 26, 2021, 09:46:36 AM
Shenandoah has their 2022 schedule posted:
https://suhornets.com/sports/football/schedule/2022
Yeah, I had heard something about that ODAC/USA South Challenge in week 3. If that challenge stays then it would mean the USA South wouldn't be able to play a full round robin with Belhaven added. Not a fan of not playing a full round robin.

Could they not just have 8 teams play conference games in Week 2?
Teams probably already had non-conference games set up before Belhaven joined and aren't going to cancel them leaving their opponents scrambling to find a replacement. I'd expect in a year or two it'd be back to a full round robin.

Scheduling numbers don't change for the USAC, Belhaven in and Averett out. No need to adjust non-conference games already setup or am I missing something.
But the changes weren't announced at the same time were they? Teams could have already been scheduling for one fewer conference game before Belhaven joined.
I'm pretty sure the ODAC/USA South challenge for week 3 was in the works before the Belhaven switch came up.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Inkblot on December 27, 2021, 11:56:53 AM
Do we know for sure that it won't be a full round robin in the USA South, or is this just speculation based on the ODAC/USA South Challenge? If they don't play a full round robin, that would likely end up with Belhaven playing 8 conference games and everyone else playing 7, which isn't ideal.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on December 27, 2021, 12:15:49 PM
Quote from: Inkblot on December 27, 2021, 11:56:53 AM
Do we know for sure that it won't be a full round robin in the USA South, or is this just speculation based on the ODAC/USA South Challenge? If they don't play a full round robin, that would likely end up with Belhaven playing 8 conference games and everyone else playing 7, which isn't ideal.

North Carolina Wesleyan has their schedule up, 7 conference games including Belhaven but no game with Brevard.

https://www.ncwcsports.com/sports/fball/2018-19/2020_schedule
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Riley Zayas on January 01, 2022, 06:20:30 PM
Linfield's 2022 schedule is up:
https://golinfieldwildcats.com/news/2022/1/1/football-2022-football-schedule-features-southern-flavor.aspx
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: MRMIKESMITH on January 03, 2022, 11:28:15 AM
Quote from: NEd3ALUM on December 23, 2021, 01:26:46 PM
Quote from: FANOFD3 on December 23, 2021, 12:37:54 PM
Quote from: NEd3ALUM on December 22, 2021, 07:00:27 PM
Not sure who will fill the spots but NJAC teams who were at 9 games will be back to 10 games - so some new matchups on the horizon potentially.

Which teams are those? I'm curious, because Salisbury currently has wk 2 and wk 3 available. Unless there was some conference to conference agreements.


Rowan, Salisbury, TCNJ, Kean

Never answered my question or maybe I didn't ask the correct question. Who are those non-conference opponents for the aforementioned 4 teams.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: MRMIKESMITH on January 03, 2022, 05:28:04 PM
Quote from: NEd3ALUM on January 03, 2022, 12:42:07 PM
Quote from: FANOFD3 on January 03, 2022, 11:28:15 AM
Quote from: NEd3ALUM on December 23, 2021, 01:26:46 PM
Quote from: FANOFD3 on December 23, 2021, 12:37:54 PM
Quote from: NEd3ALUM on December 22, 2021, 07:00:27 PM
Not sure who will fill the spots but NJAC teams who were at 9 games will be back to 10 games - so some new matchups on the horizon potentially.

Which teams are those? I'm curious, because Salisbury currently has wk 2 and wk 3 available. Unless there was some conference to conference agreements.


Rowan, Salisbury, TCNJ, Kean

Never answered my question or maybe I didn't ask the correct question. Who are those non-conference opponents for the aforementioned 4 teams.

Not sure yet who they will all add as their 10th game, hasn't been announced.  If all stays the same it will be:
TCNJ - Muhlenberg, Cortland, Nichols, ???
Rowan - Widener, Springfield, Salve Regina, ???
Kean - DelVal, Utica, USMMA, ???
Salisbury - Albright, UW-Whitewater (Can assume this will not stay the same), WNE, ???

Those are the wk 2 and wk 3 games I aforementioned that Salisbury will be looking for. Salisbury is not returning to UW-W in 2022 (unfortunately), UW-W is playing St. John's. With the ODAC and USASC playing each other in 3 OOC games and E8/LL playing 3 games. NJAC is at the mercy of CCC, NEWMAC, MASCAC, etc. whoever is willing to play them. I don't see many teams calling to play Salisbury from those conferences. The WNE game was created due to WNE having the guts and a coaching connection. Not sure how much money Salisbury has to travel, but with Covid, I'm not sure the A/D wants Salisbury to travel, Salisbury was hit hard financially in 2020/21, especially in enrollment. Salisbury couldn't even hire a grad assistant or additional analyst(s) to scout teams. Salisbury will most likely look to NNA, DII/NAIA, or a team from top notch DIII conferences that are willing to travel to Salisbury for Salisbury 9th game, let alone a 10th. Salisbury is unfortunately an island team when it comes to season games, one because of location, two it being a State school, and third, Salisbury runs the Flexbone - Triple Option
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on January 05, 2022, 10:26:12 AM
Wabash non-conference is Hampden-Sydney and North Central College. I see that Hiram is not marked as a conference game, are they leaving the NCAC or is that just an error on the website?

https://sports.wabash.edu/sports/football/schedule 
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: BSCpanthers on January 05, 2022, 10:15:57 PM
Lagrange(USA South) has canceled a long running series with BSC, so we are now looking for another OOC game.  We still have instate rival Huntingdon(USA South) and I'm assuming Arkansas Baptist(NAIA) will come to BHM in 2022, we played them in Little Rock last season. 

I'm assuming the Lagrange series has been ended due to Belhaven going to USA South and ODAC series.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on January 06, 2022, 04:21:51 PM
Martin Luther College schedule is up and their non-conference games are Concordia-Wisconsin, @ Macalester, Augsburg, @ Alma.

https://mlcknights.com/sports/football/schedule/2022
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Hawks88 on January 06, 2022, 10:03:06 PM
Quote from: BSCpanthers on January 05, 2022, 10:15:57 PM
Lagrange(USA South) has canceled a long running series with BSC, so we are now looking for another OOC game.  We still have instate rival Huntingdon(USA South) and I'm assuming Arkansas Baptist(NAIA) will come to BHM in 2022, we played them in Little Rock last season. 

I'm assuming the Lagrange series has been ended due to Belhaven going to USA South and ODAC series.
Hmm. As far as I can tell the ODAC series is week 3 and Belhaven would be later in the season so I don't see how either of those would factor in ending a series that's been played Week 1 since, what, 2008? Not sure why they would get out of one of the few D3 games they that can play that can be done without an overnight trip. It'll be interesting to see what they do there. Hopefully you guys can find a good matchup and not another Arkansas Baptist.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: BSCpanthers on January 07, 2022, 09:00:26 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on January 06, 2022, 10:03:06 PM
Quote from: BSCpanthers on January 05, 2022, 10:15:57 PM
Lagrange(USA South) has canceled a long running series with BSC, so we are now looking for another OOC game.  We still have instate rival Huntingdon(USA South) and I'm assuming Arkansas Baptist(NAIA) will come to BHM in 2022, we played them in Little Rock last season. 

I'm assuming the Lagrange series has been ended due to Belhaven going to USA South and ODAC series.
Hmm. As far as I can tell the ODAC series is week 3 and Belhaven would be later in the season so I don't see how either of those would factor in ending a series that's been played Week 1 since, what, 2008? Not sure why they would get out of one of the few D3 games they that can play that can be done without an overnight trip. It'll be interesting to see what they do there. Hopefully you guys can find a good matchup and not another Arkansas Baptist.

I'd like to not have to play Arkansas Baptist again, rather play Faulkner if we have to play an NAIA school.  Other then Huntingdon, not sure what our OOC schedule will be.  Maybe LaGrange has tired of the series, not sure, all I know is that it was them that dropped it.  I was hoping maybe Maryville would fill the spot, maybe we can get Brevard, someone rather close for travel reasons.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: justafan12 on January 07, 2022, 12:13:26 PM
If it is not a week 1 or week 3 game BSC is looking for how about a matchup with Belhaven?  I know they usually play Milshaps week 1 and week 3 is the potential USAS vs. ODAC games I have read about so not much flexibility. Might be a good early test.  Only drawback it could be a potential round 1 match-up if both teams make the playoffs.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: BSCpanthers on January 07, 2022, 01:40:59 PM
Quote from: justafan12 on January 07, 2022, 12:13:26 PM
If it is not a week 1 or week 3 game BSC is looking for how about a matchup with Belhaven?  I know they usually play Milshaps week 1 and week 3 is the potential USAS vs. ODAC games I have read about so not much flexibility. Might be a good early test.  Only drawback it could be a potential round 1 match-up if both teams make the playoffs.

Our week 2 game from last season became a Round 1 playoff rematch, so that isn't a problem for us.  I think the ASC, since losing Belhaven, also needs another OOC game, conference wide.  Hopefully we can find someone and it not become a problem like last season. 
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Inkblot on January 11, 2022, 10:37:05 PM
Hilbert has a seven-game schedule posted: https://hilberthawks.com/sports/football/schedule

Week 2: Denison
Week 3: Willamette
Week 4: Curry
Week 7: Lincoln CA (non-D3)
Week 8: Wooster
Week 10: Hiram
Week 11: Wittenberg

Filling some holes for NCAC teams, who are down to 8 conference games with the loss of Allegheny.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: BSCpanthers on January 12, 2022, 03:11:03 PM
Quote from: Inkblot on January 11, 2022, 10:37:05 PM
Hilbert has a seven-game schedule posted: https://hilberthawks.com/sports/football/schedule

Week 2: Denison
Week 3: Willamette
Week 4: Curry
Week 7: Lincoln CA (non-D3)
Week 8: Wooster
Week 10: Hiram
Week 11: Wittenberg

Filling some holes for NCAC teams, who are down to 8 conference games with the loss of Allegheny.

BSC is in need of a week 1 opponent, and we can travel.  These schools need to get on the horn with each other. 
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Baldini on January 14, 2022, 10:50:36 AM
Rose-Hulman has DePauw, Trine and Albion for non-conference foes.

https://athletics.rose-hulman.edu/sports/football/schedule/2022
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Inkblot on January 14, 2022, 03:48:52 PM
UNE's schedule is out. https://twitter.com/UNEfootball/status/1482080911441240065

Non-conference games:
Coast Guard (Week 1)
Bridgewater (Week 2)
Gallaudet (Week 3)
Rowan (Week 11)

And here we have an indication of how one NJAC team is filling their schedule.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: BSCpanthers on February 04, 2022, 10:23:37 AM
Sounds like Birmingham Southern is getting their schedule finalized.  We have our 7 conference games, Huntingdon(instate rival/USA South), McMurry(ASC) and Point University(NAIA) out of Georgia. 

In years past, only playing 2 non conference games, both have been against USA South teams.  I'm excited to see us roll out an OOC game with the ASC. 
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: justafan12 on February 04, 2022, 11:55:04 AM
Obviously the coaches and the AD at BSU know 10,000% more than me regarding scheduling but given the Hardin Simmons situation this year I don't see why a D3 would schedule an NAIA school every.  No disrespect to any NAIA school but it just appears from what I read that one of the reasons that HSU did not get an at-large was because they only played 9 D3 games (lame reason to me).


Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: BSCpanthers on February 04, 2022, 12:10:19 PM
Quote from: justafan12 on February 04, 2022, 11:55:04 AM
Obviously the coaches and the AD at BSU know 10,000% more than me regarding scheduling but given the Hardin Simmons situation this year I don't see why a D3 would schedule an NAIA school every.  No disrespect to any NAIA school but it just appears from what I read that one of the reasons that HSU did not get an at-large was because they only played 9 D3 games (lame reason to me).

I don't think our NAIA game was a desired game.  Last year we played Arkansas Baptist(NAIA) as a late fill in the schedule after a game with a team in Virginia was canceled in late July.  No reason for us to play them again, they were awful, JuCo team just stepping up to NAIA level.  Point is a close school that gives us a 10th game that keeps the budget in tact.  We might have been able to pick up another D3 game, but might have required a flight to the upper Midwest that would have done a bad thing to our budget.  Only reason I can think of why this happened. 
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: justafan12 on February 04, 2022, 03:19:24 PM
Quote from: BSCpanthers on February 04, 2022, 12:10:19 PM
Quote from: justafan12 on February 04, 2022, 11:55:04 AM
Obviously the coaches and the AD at BSU know 10,000% more than me regarding scheduling but given the Hardin Simmons situation this year I don't see why a D3 would schedule an NAIA school every.  No disrespect to any NAIA school but it just appears from what I read that one of the reasons that HSU did not get an at-large was because they only played 9 D3 games (lame reason to me).

I don't think our NAIA game was a desired game.  Last year we played Arkansas Baptist(NAIA) as a late fill in the schedule after a game with a team in Virginia was canceled in late July.  No reason for us to play them again, they were awful, JuCo team just stepping up to NAIA level.  Point is a close school that gives us a 10th game that keeps the budget in tact.  We might have been able to pick up another D3 game, but might have required a flight to the upper Midwest that would have done a bad thing to our budget.  Only reason I can think of why this happened.

Yea, I did not mention budget concerns being a reason in my first post but I did think of that.  Money drives everything and I am sure the BSC folks looked at all options to make everything fit.

Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Hawks88 on February 04, 2022, 03:55:47 PM
Quote from: BSCpanthers on February 04, 2022, 10:23:37 AM
Sounds like Birmingham Southern is getting their schedule finalized.  We have our 7 conference games, Huntingdon(instate rival/USA South), McMurry(ASC) and Point University(NAIA) out of Georgia. 

In years past, only playing 2 non conference games, both have been against USA South teams.  I'm excited to see us roll out an OOC game with the ASC.
If that game is at Point then it will still be in Alabama. Their campus is in West Point, GA but the football team uses the stadium in Valley, AL, just across the state line.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Riley Zayas on March 29, 2022, 11:04:24 AM
Texas Lutheran will play Trinity twice (once in an exhibition) and North American University. Full schedule is up: https://tlubulldogs.com/sports/fball/2022-23/schedule
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: MRMIKESMITH on April 01, 2022, 08:18:09 AM
Salisbury plays Albright, WNE, Stevenson, and Ave Maria (Florida - NAIA) - Bold denotes home.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: The Mole on April 01, 2022, 02:16:00 PM
Not a bad OOC schedule. The Anna Maria game, is that because they cannot get an opponent to play at home or you think recruiting FL?

Quote from: FANOFD3 on April 01, 2022, 08:18:09 AM
Salisbury plays Albright, WNE, Stevenson, and Ave Maria (Florida - NAIA) - Bold denotes home.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 01, 2022, 02:23:48 PM
It's probably hard to get four non-conference games when you're a quality program like Salisbury is.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: MRMIKESMITH on April 02, 2022, 01:26:06 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 01, 2022, 02:23:48 PM
It's probably hard to get four non-conference games when you're a quality program like Salisbury is.

Per conversations with some Alum, this is the case. In addition, no one wants to play against the Flexbone Spread (Triple-Option) if they don't really have to. It was noted that Coach Wood and his staff had reached out to many schools within R1/R2/R3 and the only bite was Stevenson, which wants to do a 2 year and probably create a new in-state rivalry matchup that can continue into the future.  Kudos to Albright as we have played them many times over the past decade. Then WNE, their Defensive Coordinator is a former Alum and Captain at Salisbury. Regarding Ave Maria,  there were other teams interested (WIAC/ASC/NWC), however due to funding, Salisbury was looking for a home game this year and away trip next year and teams in those conferences had already schedule their away trips. However, you may be seeing Salisbury travel to one of those aforementioned conferences in '23 if they get the funding as the CC/NJAC will fill out a game or two in 23 with either Muhlenberg and/or Johns Hopkins.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Joe Rockhead on April 07, 2022, 01:35:32 PM
Not for 2022 but.... Centennial & NJAC recently announced a joint scheduling agreement starting in 2023. This will fill the void left by the loss of three teams from the Centennial when the Landmark starts sponsoring football. The 2023 & 2024 schedules can be found here (most Centennial teams haven't announced their Week 1 opponents yet-except for Hopkins). Three games between the conferences for each team each year with a home & home arrangement between '23 & '24.  Some interesting matchups-Muhlenberg-Salisbury, Hopkins-CNU, Hopkins-Rowan.  See the schedule here: https://www.centennial.org/Schedules/2023-24-Football.pdf    Did hear that Muhlenberg will be opening 2022 at Mary Hardin Baylor this year.







Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 07, 2022, 02:06:27 PM
In addition, Juniata vs. Grove City and Susquehanna vs. Lycoming:
https://d3football.com/conf/CC/2022/schedule
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Inkblot on April 14, 2022, 01:41:04 PM
Non-conference games between 2021 playoff teams (so far):

Muhlenberg at Mary Hardin–Baylor
Mary Hardin–Baylor at Wisconsin–Whitewater
Wheaton at Trinity
Rose–Hulman at DePauw
Albion at Rose–Hulman
Linfield at Huntingdon
Redlands at Linfield
Carnegie Mellon at RPI
Huntingdon at Birmingham–Southern
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 14, 2022, 05:15:51 PM
Quote from: Inkblot on April 14, 2022, 01:41:04 PM
Non-conference games between 2021 playoff teams (so far):

Muhlenberg at Mary Hardin–Baylor
Mary Hardin–Baylor at Wisconsin–Whitewater
Wheaton at Trinity
Rose–Hulman at DePauw
Albion at Rose–Hulman
Linfield at Huntingdon
Redlands at Linfield
Carnegie Mellon at RPI
Huntingdon at Birmingham–Southern
+1 Inkblot!  Please keep up the good work!
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: BullfrogAggie on June 21, 2022, 12:34:54 AM
Hello there. Is there anywhere I can go to see future non con games like for 2023 and beyond? FBSchedules.com has this thing where you can see a team's non con schedule that could go all the way to 2035 or so but unfortunately it's only D1. I saw the Centennial Conference has a PDF of 2023 & 2024 but most conferences don't do that on their respective websites.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 21, 2022, 01:56:05 PM
Those things are not scheduled out that far in advance in D-III. Most schools sign two- or four-year contracts for non-conference opponents.
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: BullfrogAggie on June 21, 2022, 06:42:29 PM
Ah. Thanks for the clarification!
Title: Re: 2022 Non-Conference opponents
Post by: Captainred81 on July 11, 2022, 11:21:30 AM
I was on Mount Union's website, and it seems they are open for '24-'28.  Usually they are booked many years in advance, hence the Defiance match-up.  Just sayin' in case there are schools out there looking to make future arrangements.  I don't think 2-4 years in the future is too long.