2016 West Regional - Spokane, WA

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Ralph Turner

Quote from: Westside on April 28, 2016, 07:32:20 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 28, 2016, 07:24:00 PM
Ralph this is purely hypothetical, but if for some reason Trinity loses the SCAC, it is conceivable that they could fly them to another region, like the South as they did with PLU last year. Correct ?

It is conceivable but PLU only got flown out last year because three NWC teams made it (Whitworth and Linfield in the West regional).
And PLU played very well in the South Regional, too.  They went 2-2 against BSC and Emory.

Like I say, the West Region has the most overall balance in all of Division-3 !
http://www.d3baseball.com/teams/Pacific_Lutheran/2015/index

SoCalSoxFan

Quote from: Whatagame on April 28, 2016, 06:09:06 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on April 28, 2016, 06:01:54 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 28, 2016, 05:08:48 PM
First NCAA Regional Ranking:

West Region
1    Trinity (Texas)    30-7-0 ( 0.811)    32-7-0 ( 0.821)
2    Occidental    28-5-0 ( 0.848)    28-6-0 ( 0.824)
3    Whitworth    27-10-0 ( 0.730)    27-10-0 ( 0.730)
4    Cal Lutheran    24-10-0 ( 0.706)    24-11-0 ( 0.686)
5    Concordia (Texas)    21-12-0 ( 0.636)    24-12-0 ( 0.667)
6    Texas Lutheran     24-13-0 ( 0.649)    24-13-0 ( 0.649)

Looks like CLU's head-to-head vs NWC teams came into play here.
Whitworth won game 1 this year 8-2 vs CLU; which looks to be a contributing factor for ranking #3 vs #4.

CLU defeated PLU 14-6 at the end of March.  Since then PLU has been 10-2; but not able to overcome overall 25-16 rankings to be in top 6.  If they had defeated CLU, then I wouldn't expect PLU would be ranked higher than CLU; especially since PLU was 6-1 in their other SCIAC games.

But, I suppose its irrelevant for PLU whether they are in the RR top 6, as they are in the D3 tournament via the AQ victory in NWC conference tournament.

Irrelevant for them but not for lower seeds.  PLU being out of top six opens rating slot for others.

Jack Parkman

Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 28, 2016, 07:09:57 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 28, 2016, 05:08:48 PM
First NCAA Regional Ranking:

West Region
1    Trinity (Texas)    30-7-0 ( 0.811)    32-7-0 ( 0.821)
2    Occidental    28-5-0 ( 0.848)    28-6-0 ( 0.824)
3    Whitworth    27-10-0 ( 0.730)    27-10-0 ( 0.730)
4    Cal Lutheran    24-10-0 ( 0.706)    24-11-0 ( 0.686)
5    Concordia (Texas)    21-12-0 ( 0.636)    24-12-0 ( 0.667)
6    Texas Lutheran     24-13-0 ( 0.649)    24-13-0 ( 0.649)
As I look at the Pool C bids across all of the regions, we look to be in good shape.

We need TLU or someone to beat Trinity (a Pool A and a Pool C).
Cal Lu can beat Oxy (a Pool A and a Pool C).
I think that Whitworth is in as Pool C.
CTX or someone from the ASC makes the tourney as a Pool A.

We can fly someone out of the region and have a 6-team regional.

I would think the SCIAC teams would really hope for Trinity to win the SCAC and Concordia to win the ASC.  I don't think there is any guarantee the SCIAC would get 2 teams in, but it could certainly help them if both Trinity and Concordia took care of business.

108 Stitches



Teams: Not seeded just in order qualified

1. Pacific Lutheran (25-16)
2. Trinity (35-7)
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6.

Team Stats:
Pacific Lutheran: .290 Batting Average, 4.35 ERA, .970 Fielding %
Trinity: 0.347 BA, 2.79 ERA, 0.968 Fielding %

Westside

Aww, thanks. I was just logging on at work to do that!  ;)
NWC Baseball

Westside

May 5th Regional Rankings:

1. Trinity (TX)*          33-7-0 ( 0.825)     35-7-0 ( 0.833) 
2. Cal Lutheran        27-10-0 ( 0.730)    27-11-0 ( 0.711) 
3. Whitworth           29-11-0 ( 0.725)    29-11-0 ( 0.725) 
4. Concordia (TX)     24-13-0 ( 0.649)    27-13-0 ( 0.675) 
5. Occidental           30-7-0 ( 0.811)      30-8-0 ( 0.789) 
6. Texas Lutheran    26-15-0 ( 0.634)    26-15-0 ( 0.634)

* - denotes already guaranteed spot

I think that Trinity, Cal Lu, Whitworth and PLU are all safely to the regional.
NWC Baseball

Jack Parkman

Quote from: Westside on May 05, 2016, 05:01:14 PM
May 5th Regional Rankings:

1. Trinity (TX)*          33-7-0 ( 0.825)     35-7-0 ( 0.833) 
2. Cal Lutheran        27-10-0 ( 0.730)    27-11-0 ( 0.711) 
3. Whitworth           29-11-0 ( 0.725)    29-11-0 ( 0.725) 
4. Concordia (TX)     24-13-0 ( 0.649)    27-13-0 ( 0.675) 
5. Occidental           30-7-0 ( 0.811)      30-8-0 ( 0.789) 
6. Texas Lutheran    26-15-0 ( 0.634)    26-15-0 ( 0.634)

* - denotes already guaranteed spot

I think that Trinity, Cal Lu, Whitworth and PLU are all safely to the regional.

I think reality just hit the Oxy campus.  Their SOS is 223 but will go up during the SCIAC Tournament.  I would hate to get over-confident in regards to those listed that you believe are in, but I would agree.  I think the ASC is only getting one bid and if Oxy fails to win the SCIAC Tourney, I do not see them getting in and that is a direct result of terrible non-conference scheduling.

Here are the SCIAC SOS's as of today:
Redlands- 72
Cal Lu- 87
La Verne- 98
Pomona- 103
Claremont- 113
Chapman- 117
Caltech- 133
Whittier- 156
Oxy- 223...223!!

Trinity and Whitworth can't do anything to improve their standing and Whitworth does have a win against Cal Lu back in Feb.  They stumbled a little down the stretch but I think they are (fairly) safe.

PLU automatically bumps the #6 team on the list out of that spot (not saying PLU will be seeded 6th, just that there is one less spot already.)

Very interested to see how the SCIAC shapes up.

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 05, 2016, 06:34:55 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 05, 2016, 05:01:14 PM
May 5th Regional Rankings:

1. Trinity (TX)*          33-7-0 ( 0.825)     35-7-0 ( 0.833) 
2. Cal Lutheran        27-10-0 ( 0.730)    27-11-0 ( 0.711) 
3. Whitworth           29-11-0 ( 0.725)    29-11-0 ( 0.725) 
4. Concordia (TX)     24-13-0 ( 0.649)    27-13-0 ( 0.675) 
5. Occidental           30-7-0 ( 0.811)      30-8-0 ( 0.789) 
6. Texas Lutheran    26-15-0 ( 0.634)    26-15-0 ( 0.634)

* - denotes already guaranteed spot

I think that Trinity, Cal Lu, Whitworth and PLU are all safely to the regional.

I think reality just hit the Oxy campus.  Their SOS is 223 but will go up during the SCIAC Tournament.  I would hate to get over-confident in regards to those listed that you believe are in, but I would agree.  I think the ASC is only getting one bid and if Oxy fails to win the SCIAC Tourney, I do not see them getting in and that is a direct result of terrible non-conference scheduling.

Here are the SCIAC SOS's as of today:
Redlands- 72
Cal Lu- 87
La Verne- 98
Pomona- 103
Claremont- 113
Chapman- 117
Caltech- 133
Whittier- 156
Oxy- 223...223!!

Trinity and Whitworth can't do anything to improve their standing and Whitworth does have a win against Cal Lu back in Feb.  They stumbled a little down the stretch but I think they are (fairly) safe.

PLU automatically bumps the #6 team on the list out of that spot (not saying PLU will be seeded 6th, just that there is one less spot already.)

Very interested to see how the SCIAC shapes up.

I'm sure you are well aware of it (and probably most everyone reading this), but never forget that Pool C selection is national, not regional.  PLU bumps someone out of a spot, but not necessarily a West team.

Jack Parkman

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 05, 2016, 06:46:00 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 05, 2016, 06:34:55 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 05, 2016, 05:01:14 PM
May 5th Regional Rankings:

1. Trinity (TX)*          33-7-0 ( 0.825)     35-7-0 ( 0.833) 
2. Cal Lutheran        27-10-0 ( 0.730)    27-11-0 ( 0.711) 
3. Whitworth           29-11-0 ( 0.725)    29-11-0 ( 0.725) 
4. Concordia (TX)     24-13-0 ( 0.649)    27-13-0 ( 0.675) 
5. Occidental           30-7-0 ( 0.811)      30-8-0 ( 0.789) 
6. Texas Lutheran    26-15-0 ( 0.634)    26-15-0 ( 0.634)

* - denotes already guaranteed spot

I think that Trinity, Cal Lu, Whitworth and PLU are all safely to the regional.

I think reality just hit the Oxy campus.  Their SOS is 223 but will go up during the SCIAC Tournament.  I would hate to get over-confident in regards to those listed that you believe are in, but I would agree.  I think the ASC is only getting one bid and if Oxy fails to win the SCIAC Tourney, I do not see them getting in and that is a direct result of terrible non-conference scheduling.

Here are the SCIAC SOS's as of today:
Redlands- 72
Cal Lu- 87
La Verne- 98
Pomona- 103
Claremont- 113
Chapman- 117
Caltech- 133
Whittier- 156
Oxy- 223...223!!

Trinity and Whitworth can't do anything to improve their standing and Whitworth does have a win against Cal Lu back in Feb.  They stumbled a little down the stretch but I think they are (fairly) safe.

PLU automatically bumps the #6 team on the list out of that spot (not saying PLU will be seeded 6th, just that there is one less spot already.)

Very interested to see how the SCIAC shapes up.

I'm sure you are well aware of it (and probably most everyone reading this), but never forget that Pool C selection is national, not regional.  PLU bumps someone out of a spot, but not necessarily a West team.

Absolutely.  I would only say this as I have a VERY hard time believing the NCAA would pay for 6 flights and make this an 8-team regional.  Good point either way.

infielddad

Jack, I am certainly not predicting anything, but the NCAA could put Trinity, CTX and TLU on one plane out of SAT or Austin.

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 05, 2016, 06:57:18 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 05, 2016, 06:46:00 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 05, 2016, 06:34:55 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 05, 2016, 05:01:14 PM
May 5th Regional Rankings:

1. Trinity (TX)*          33-7-0 ( 0.825)     35-7-0 ( 0.833) 
2. Cal Lutheran        27-10-0 ( 0.730)    27-11-0 ( 0.711) 
3. Whitworth           29-11-0 ( 0.725)    29-11-0 ( 0.725) 
4. Concordia (TX)     24-13-0 ( 0.649)    27-13-0 ( 0.675) 
5. Occidental           30-7-0 ( 0.811)      30-8-0 ( 0.789) 
6. Texas Lutheran    26-15-0 ( 0.634)    26-15-0 ( 0.634)

* - denotes already guaranteed spot

I think that Trinity, Cal Lu, Whitworth and PLU are all safely to the regional.

I think reality just hit the Oxy campus.  Their SOS is 223 but will go up during the SCIAC Tournament.  I would hate to get over-confident in regards to those listed that you believe are in, but I would agree.  I think the ASC is only getting one bid and if Oxy fails to win the SCIAC Tourney, I do not see them getting in and that is a direct result of terrible non-conference scheduling.

Here are the SCIAC SOS's as of today:
Redlands- 72
Cal Lu- 87
La Verne- 98
Pomona- 103
Claremont- 113
Chapman- 117
Caltech- 133
Whittier- 156
Oxy- 223...223!!

Trinity and Whitworth can't do anything to improve their standing and Whitworth does have a win against Cal Lu back in Feb.  They stumbled a little down the stretch but I think they are (fairly) safe.

PLU automatically bumps the #6 team on the list out of that spot (not saying PLU will be seeded 6th, just that there is one less spot already.)

Very interested to see how the SCIAC shapes up.

I'm sure you are well aware of it (and probably most everyone reading this), but never forget that Pool C selection is national, not regional.  PLU bumps someone out of a spot, but not necessarily a West team.

Absolutely.  I would only say this as I have a VERY hard time believing the NCAA would pay for 6 flights and make this an 8-team regional.  Good point either way.

The NCAA insists (and the d3sports.com guys seem to take them at their word) that SELECTION decisions are not influenced by costs, only bracketing decisions.  (I'm not entirely convinced, but have no real evidence to call BS.)  I'd agree that keeping the West regional at six (due to costs) is highly probable, but that still doesn't translate into a West team going unselected (if necessary, they could be sent elsewhere) due to PLU 'eating' a C bid.

Jack Parkman

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 05, 2016, 08:17:10 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 05, 2016, 06:57:18 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 05, 2016, 06:46:00 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 05, 2016, 06:34:55 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 05, 2016, 05:01:14 PM
May 5th Regional Rankings:

1. Trinity (TX)*          33-7-0 ( 0.825)     35-7-0 ( 0.833) 
2. Cal Lutheran        27-10-0 ( 0.730)    27-11-0 ( 0.711) 
3. Whitworth           29-11-0 ( 0.725)    29-11-0 ( 0.725) 
4. Concordia (TX)     24-13-0 ( 0.649)    27-13-0 ( 0.675) 
5. Occidental           30-7-0 ( 0.811)      30-8-0 ( 0.789) 
6. Texas Lutheran    26-15-0 ( 0.634)    26-15-0 ( 0.634)

* - denotes already guaranteed spot

I think that Trinity, Cal Lu, Whitworth and PLU are all safely to the regional.

I think reality just hit the Oxy campus.  Their SOS is 223 but will go up during the SCIAC Tournament.  I would hate to get over-confident in regards to those listed that you believe are in, but I would agree.  I think the ASC is only getting one bid and if Oxy fails to win the SCIAC Tourney, I do not see them getting in and that is a direct result of terrible non-conference scheduling.

Here are the SCIAC SOS's as of today:
Redlands- 72
Cal Lu- 87
La Verne- 98
Pomona- 103
Claremont- 113
Chapman- 117
Caltech- 133
Whittier- 156
Oxy- 223...223!!

Trinity and Whitworth can't do anything to improve their standing and Whitworth does have a win against Cal Lu back in Feb.  They stumbled a little down the stretch but I think they are (fairly) safe.

PLU automatically bumps the #6 team on the list out of that spot (not saying PLU will be seeded 6th, just that there is one less spot already.)

Very interested to see how the SCIAC shapes up.

I'm sure you are well aware of it (and probably most everyone reading this), but never forget that Pool C selection is national, not regional.  PLU bumps someone out of a spot, but not necessarily a West team.

Absolutely.  I would only say this as I have a VERY hard time believing the NCAA would pay for 6 flights and make this an 8-team regional.  Good point either way.

The NCAA insists (and the d3sports.com guys seem to take them at their word) that SELECTION decisions are not influenced by costs, only bracketing decisions.  (I'm not entirely convinced, but have no real evidence to call BS.)  I'd agree that keeping the West regional at six (due to costs) is highly probable, but that still doesn't translate into a West team going unselected (if necessary, they could be sent elsewhere) due to PLU 'eating' a C bid.

Another solid point.  You are on fire tonight!


Mr. Ypsi

Hey!  I am not some derelict building - I am ALBERTA! ;)

With almost 22,000 posts, SOME of them are bound to be decent - if only by 'law of averages'. ;D

I confess that I am not that much into D3 baseball (I follow only the west and central boards).  And I never followed it at all until the post-season in 2010, when the final word was "They will 'Remember the Titans' in Appleton".  The performance by Jason Pankau that day, against a Cortland team that had pounded the crap out of all other pitching, made me a fan.  (During the crucial innings, when IWU went from down 1-2, to up 17-2, he yielded ZERO base runners!)  That both coaches cleared the benches when the game was obviously over (give those guys a taste of the WS!) solidified my fanship.

I'm much more a football and (especially) basketball fan (both genders), but I do like my baseball also.  (Though IWU seems to be much better at softball than baseball. :P)

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 05, 2016, 10:35:01 PM
Hey!  I am not some derelict building - I am ALBERTA! ;)

With almost 22,000 posts, SOME of them are bound to be decent - if only by 'law of averages'. ;D

I confess that I am not that much into D3 baseball (I follow only the west and central boards).  And I never followed it at all until the post-season in 2010, when the final word was "They will 'Remember the Titans' in Appleton".  The performance by Jason Pankau that day, against a Cortland team that had pounded the crap out of all other pitching, made me a fan.  (During the crucial innings, when IWU went from down 1-2, to up 17-2, he yielded ZERO base runners!)  That both coaches cleared the benches when the game was obviously over (give those guys a taste of the WS!) solidified my fanship.

I'm much more a football and (especially) basketball fan (both genders), but I do like my baseball also.  (Though IWU seems to be much better at softball than baseball. :P)
If I recall correctly, in a previous life Mr Ypsi taught statistics.