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Region 5 football (Central-ish) / Re: FB: American Rivers Conference
« on: September 17, 2023, 10:51:35 pm »
The only thing that comes from Saturday is the news that There's a Lager coming out that we can relieve our thirst with.   When it comes down to football tho, I was terribly disappointed the Dutch game plan. 

An old wise coach told me that "If you have two QB's you don't have a QB", and if you have three you're looking for trouble.  5 interceptions seems to be the proof.  I was excited to come to Pella Saturday but the only good thing I experienced was the Imperial Stout after the game.

Coe Defense was the best squad on the field, followed by the Dutch Defense.  They fought hard and stopped Coe on a few hard fought stops.   Good job guys.  Offense was awkwordly moving the ball, but never got the play when they needed it.  Seems the D is doing well but to look like Iowa these days is not enough to get a title.  Lets get it together and get some leadership from upper classes and support A Quarterback for a great season this year.Go Dutch!



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Region 5 football (Central-ish) / Re: FB: American Rivers Conference
« on: October 30, 2022, 05:58:14 pm »
Finally got myself to a game in person this year.  Wishing I hadn't, but hey, they piled up some passing yards and stayed within one score.  I've seen several of the games on my iPad so I'll put my two cents worth.  To start, senior leadership is hard to replace.  What we had last year besides a once in a lifetime QB is a bunch of guys who set great examples for each other and committed themselves to the cause.  Yup, I've heard the rumors of some great class coming in, I'll believe it when I see at.  Right now I've seen a couple loses that were a bit sloppy and mistake laden.  Youth will bring that out, Coach will get it fixed.  Schip would not be happy about those penalties and turnovers!

If you hang around old coaches enough you'll hear the adage, "If you have two QBs, you don't have a QB". Someone has to break out from that three headed situation,  they all seem qualified enough, I wish they were a little more mobile.  Maybe that gives Glover a boost next fall, I wouldn't know, but I'm sure that once again Coach will get that figured out.

I'm more concerned about the the ground game, both the Dutch and the opponents'.  Too little of it for the Dutch and too much from the other side.  Loras, Wartburg, and Coe had an off-tackle game that was far too successful.  65 yards for the Dutch and 160 yards for the other guys is weak. 

Looking ahead, I'll bet we get two more W's and Warty will be good enough to get at least one win in the playoffs.  They've only given up 38 points, 28 of them against the Dutch, they're for real.

Go Dutch!

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Region 5 football (Central-ish) / Re: FB: American Rivers Conference
« on: August 07, 2022, 09:30:17 am »
Speaking of Wartburg, how long have they gone with mentions in the top 30 of preseason prognosticators, only to be left out this year?  Any one have a logical reasoning for their absence? 

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Region 5 football (Central-ish) / Re: FB: American Rivers Conference
« on: November 23, 2021, 04:33:11 pm »
Hey Dutch Fans, the Gagliardi trophy voting is open until Dec. 3.  I believe our favorite quarterback is a great candidate.  Vote Here  https://d3football.com/notables/2021/11/gagliardi-voting

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Region 5 football (Central-ish) / Re: FB: American Rivers Conference
« on: November 21, 2021, 12:28:34 am »
Quote from: hazzben on November 20, 2021, 09:58:44 pm
Quote from: Schipper Strong on November 20, 2021, 06:35:03 pm
Yes it is a complete team and a very good representative of a not as down as you thought ARC. It was fun to see how Central play against a winning team. Turns out pretty well.

I’d actually argue Central is an outlier at the top of the ARC this year. Typically the 2nd and 3rd place teams are a bit closer to the top team and hold serve better out of conference. Wartburg seemed a step back from their usual standard. We will see next week and potentially the following how the top of the ARC stacks up. If they survive that gauntlet, then we can definitively say Central and the ARC took a big step forward.

I think this Wheaton vs Central game is a great matchup. Both are very COVID Sr heavy. Central would appear to have the edge at QB and WR. Wheaton looks to have the edge on Dline and at RB. Can they get pressure on Hawkins? Can Central stop the Wheaton running game? How does the Wheaton secondary hold up, NCC made some plays against them, albeit with two AA caliber WR’s. Both teams have the line play to matchup with UWW for the region final. Staying healthy will play a big factor in this as well. The team coming out of this region will have played some brutally physical football going into the semifinals.

I would agree that the Dutch are outliers this year, but it is mostly out there because of quarterback play and the great receivers he throws to.  I would also say that the Dutch Defense is a great unit, its been overlooked but they proved today against a very strong offense how good they are.  And then we can't forget the work Bannister and Neu did on kickoff returns, the whole Kick return team is testament of the depth of this team.  So ya, the Dutch are outliers this year, and I hope they stay there, but I know Warty and Coe and DBQ are going to come back stronger, Loras and BV proved to be very competitive as some parity in the middle of the conference was the norm.  Can't worry about that, Wheaton is next on the calendar and its gonna be a good one!  Go Dutch!

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Region 5 football (Central-ish) / Re: FB: American Rivers Conference
« on: November 15, 2021, 10:09:47 am »
Quote from: Schipper Strong on November 14, 2021, 07:13:09 pm
Duh, you are right! Not sure why I was thinking Bethel. Well shoot, I felt better when I was thinking it was Bethel.  ;) Need to do my research better. Thanks for the correction. I knew it sounded too good.  ;D

St. Olaf was the common opponent, Game one for Central, 46-27, Total Offense 578-371
St Olaf was Bethel's eighth game  Bethel 35.14, Total Offense 476-256

Those differentials would say this will be a great game!  Obviously The Dutch played conservatively, didn't open up the playbook, so I'll call it Dutch by 2 touchdowns Saturday.  ;D GoDutch!

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Region 5 football (Central-ish) / Re: FB: American Rivers Conference
« on: November 14, 2021, 01:36:43 pm »
Quote from: bleedpurple on November 12, 2021, 10:11:14 am
Quote from: Old Dutch on November 12, 2021, 08:42:57 am
D3 has put their projected brackets out, with all due respect to that other scoring machine in Storm Lake, I'm going to look ahead to playoffs.  These are usually very close to the real thing, we'll see come Sunday, so the D3 projection with conventional seeding applied:

at North Central  1      at Mount Union
Greenville           8     Washington & Lee
        
at DePauw           4     at Salisbury
UW-La Crosse      5     Ithaca
        
at Linfield           3       at Union
Redlands            6       Endicott
        
Rose-Hulman     7        Anna Maria
at Central          2       at Delaware Valley
        

at UMHB             1       at UW-Whitewater
Trinity (Texas)     8      Albion
        
at Birmingham-S.  4     at Wheaton
Huntingdon           5    Carnegie Mellon
        
at Muhlenberg       3    at Baldwin Wallace
Springfield            6     Lake Forest
        
Framingham St.    7     Aurora
at Cortland           2     at St. John’s
        
I thhinnk this is a good spot for our Dutch, yes, its in the Defending champions bracket, but we wont have to worry about them until the quarters.  I know the committee may drop Central down to a three seed, but with another game to score 50 in a half they'll have to consider the consistent outstanding play of both the national scoring #1 or 2 Offense and a great defense.

That means two home games for the Dutch should they continue winning.  So Rose Hulman, the Engineers are in the HCAC, which is also the home to the Dutch from Hope College.  7-2 record 6-0 in conference, they probably stand up to what the Better ARC teams could do.    Then Linfield will come to town, saving us from  climbing on a plane to McMinnville. My question then is how good is the NWC VS ARC? Strength of schedule Linfield is OOWP .5112 and Central OOWP of .5205  Their non-conference opponents didn't help us much so that looks like a dead heat to me.   Will be a great game!  Next would be a trip to Naperville.

I'm looking at an extended season for the Dutch, Someone has to win the championship Why Not Coach McMartin and crew!!  #GoDutch

I would think a more important question would be how good is Linfield. My hunch is they are very good. I would think Linfield would be a favorite to beat Central, even on the road.  But I agree, it could be a great game!

Wow, that changed things immensely. Not going to try to understand Central @4 seed in Top no. 1 bracket.  I think there resume is far better than that, we'll wait and see what the professionals say.

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Region 5 football (Central-ish) / Re: FB: American Rivers Conference
« on: November 12, 2021, 08:42:57 am »
D3 has put their projected brackets out, with all due respect to that other scoring machine in Storm Lake, I'm going to look ahead to playoffs.  These are usually very close to the real thing, we'll see come Sunday, so the D3 projection with conventional seeding applied:

at North Central  1      at Mount Union
Greenville           8     Washington & Lee
        
at DePauw           4     at Salisbury
UW-La Crosse      5     Ithaca
        
at Linfield           3       at Union
Redlands            6       Endicott
        
Rose-Hulman     7        Anna Maria
at Central          2       at Delaware Valley
        

at UMHB             1       at UW-Whitewater
Trinity (Texas)     8      Albion
        
at Birmingham-S.  4     at Wheaton
Huntingdon           5    Carnegie Mellon
        
at Muhlenberg       3    at Baldwin Wallace
Springfield            6     Lake Forest
        
Framingham St.    7     Aurora
at Cortland           2     at St. John’s
        
I thhinnk this is a good spot for our Dutch, yes, its in the Defending champions bracket, but we wont have to worry about them until the quarters.  I know the committee may drop Central down to a three seed, but with another game to score 50 in a half they'll have to consider the consistent outstanding play of both the national scoring #1 or 2 Offense and a great defense.

That means two home games for the Dutch should they continue winning.  So Rose Hulman, the Engineers are in the HCAC, which is also the home to the Dutch from Hope College.  7-2 record 6-0 in conference, they probably stand up to what the Better ARC teams could do.    Then Linfield will come to town, saving us from  climbing on a plane to McMinnville.  My question then is how good is the NWC VS ARC?  Strength of schedule Linfield is OOWP .5112 and Central OOWP of .5205  Their non-conference opponents didn't help us much so that looks like a dead heat to me.   Will be a great game!  Next would be a trip to Naperville.

I'm looking at an extended season for the Dutch, Someone has to win the championship Why Not Coach McMartin and crew!!  #GoDutch

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Region 5 football (Central-ish) / Re: FB: American Rivers Conference
« on: September 25, 2021, 05:16:17 pm »
wow, 12 touchdowns in 24 minutes of possession, 4 TDs in the second half with the back-ups in.  over 750 yrds of offense.  I dont think either team is that good or that bad, Central was playing very well no matter who was on the field.  I hope you saved a little of that for next week.

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Region 5 football (Central-ish) / Re: FB: American Rivers Conference
« on: September 06, 2021, 08:33:14 am »
I didn't plug in until halftime, but I agree with Rex, the D-line was not at full strength.  AS for as the offense goes, I think they'll be alright when McMartin opens up the playbook a little more.  Other than the fake field goal it was kind of vanilla set of plays he was using.  I really like the running with Hopp at 230 lbs.  Mont will be a big loss if he's out for a while, lets hope that's not the case.

Whats up with BVU?  trying to impersonate a Big-12 team's defense,  138 points, did they have two sets of officials to run up and down the field with that?  Pitty those guys.  Simpson might have gone a mile too far on that schedule, MHB is obviously hunting for the championship, but what does this say about Simpson??? ::)

Go Dutch!

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Region 5 football (Central-ish) / Re: FB: American Rivers Conference
« on: October 25, 2020, 03:19:35 pm »
Quote from: doolittledog on October 24, 2020, 01:33:43 pm
Andy Vujnovich was the starting punter at Dubuque.  Transferred to Wisconsin and is now their starting punter.

https://twitter.com/WisconsinOnBTN/status/1319796210836803585

Talk about the Badgers, looks like they got a newbie QB that's the real thing.  Although the opponent was Illinois.  20/21 248 yds and 5 TDs in an opener is nothing to sneeze at.  Iowa's on the other had looked like he could have used a real pre-season to get ready.  I'm prognosticating a losing season for our Hawks, lost a lot of talent from last year.

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Region 5 football (Central-ish) / Re: FB: American Rivers Conference
« on: November 30, 2019, 07:48:08 am »
NWS forecast for Wheaton is not our friend,  rain, maybe thunderstorms 20-25 MPH wind.  Might not be able to put the ball in the air as much as we like,  Maybe Hopp can have a big day for us.  Couldn't get a weekend pass from the wife to get out to Chi-town, so will be looking at the stream,  hope its good.

Same for Whitewater v Warty,  may be a bit of an equalizer for the Knights,  Good Luck to both teams and Go Dutch!


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Region 5 football (Central-ish) / Re: FB: American Rivers Conference
« on: November 26, 2019, 10:50:57 pm »
Quote from: emma17 on November 26, 2019, 04:53:54 pm
Quote from: USee on November 25, 2019, 02:50:57 pm
ARC/CENTRAL fans,

Help me out.I am looking at Centrals’ stats and results. I see an offense that consistently generated 500+ a game, 30-50 pts, and a QB in Blaine Hawkins who completes 67% of his passes over his career and averages close to 300 yds a game throwing. Yet October 12th Central lost a stinker to Dubuque while scoring only 7 pts, generating 223 yds of offense and Hawkins was 9-23 with 5 interceptions (almost half his season total). What in the world happened that day?

Usee, in addition to what others have said about Dubuque, I posted the following comments after the UWW game with them:
Props to Dubuque as I feel they had pretty darn good defensive backs.
the Dubuque QB is a gamer with a nice touch.

I'm not surprised they could pop up and bite a a good team.

Dubuque absolutely was a contender this year.  I recall that very windy day as a thorn in Hawkins psyche,  Early on he had a wide open receiver on a corner route that he overthrew by 10 yards.  They had a big receiver/DB, I think Jenkins?  He caught whatever was out there including a couple Dutch passes.  However the point spread on this day was largely affected by a terrible punting game in the cross wind . At least three times two different punters shanked kicks hard right and gave Dubuque short fields.  That was also a turning point in the season for Dutch RB Hopp, as after that game they not only turned Hawkins loose they focused far more on the run game, especially Hopp.  Go Dutch!

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Region 5 football (Central-ish) / Re: FB: American Rivers Conference
« on: November 24, 2019, 08:57:40 am »
Just trying to take it all in.  We were one punt away from heading out to the Peanut Pub in the 3rd quarter, but then it became 31-10, 31-17, 31-24 . . . WTH we're now in the game!

Seeing how Central was playing with a quick tempo in the early stages of the game, that became a great strategy, the big guys were getting worn down by the sometimes hurry-up offense.  UWO coach admitted in the post game interview they were tired.  No way we score in OT if the UWO D is fresh.  And the adjustments by the Defense at halftime were brilliant, whatever they were! 

McMartin in the post game simply said "hey guys if Wartburg can do it so can we!"  or something like that. ;D

When we get to this point in the playoffs, the differences in most teams are miniscule, everybody's good and you got to be on top of your game.  Congrats to the Dutch and the Knights on big wins and good luck next week,  we're both gonna need it.

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Region 5 football (Central-ish) / Re: FB: American Rivers Conference
« on: November 17, 2019, 01:41:03 pm »
Quote from: Schipper Strong on November 16, 2019, 11:34:58 pm
Quote from: DBQ1965 on November 16, 2019, 06:40:21 pm
Quote from: DBQ1965 on November 14, 2019, 06:25:57 pm
As I've heard said around west Michigan ... If you're not Dutch you're not much.  I love the prospects of a Hope - Central matchup ... the Flying Dutch vs. the Dutch.  If Lake Michigan wasn't in the way, I could envision regular games between MIAA teams and IIAC/ARC teams.  If the matchup does come to passin Holland, I will be on the visitors side in a red hat cheering on "my" Conference.

On second thought ... why would 9-1 Hope get to host a game and 9-1 Central have to go on the road when the MIAA can't measure up to the IIAC/ARC?   ;)  This could all be moot by this time tomorrow.
Hope is most welcome to come to Central and play once again in Schipper Stadium named after a Hope grad.

And back to the historical trivia, Central used to be the Flying Dutchman just like Hope. We changed it to the Dutch years ago, but Flying Dutchman is still in our fight song just like CUI is still in our school song.

I remember those Flying Dutchman T-shirts in the 70's . As I recall part of the change away from Flying Dutchman was about it being part of slave trades for Dutch East India Company.  Upon checking with Wikipedia (its not worth heavy research!) The Flying Dutchman is  a mythological Ghost ship, captained by one Van der Decken who "was a staunch seaman, and would have his own way in spite of the devil"

I like the episode of the Simpsons, Captain Horatio McCallister or just simply the Sea Captain is a sea captain and owner of the Frying Dutchman Restaurant..

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