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See that the new Top 25 poll is out and, not surprisingly, NCC did not pick up any points after defeating a Top 10 opponent by two touchdowns.  Meanwhile, UWW picked up 11 points after their 3 point win over a similarly ranked opponent.  Love to watch how quick the pollsters are to throw points at MIAC and WIAC teams (St. Johns, UWW, etc.), but aren’t so quick when Mount, UMHB, or NCC pick up big wins.  Frankly, I am surprised that St. Johns didn’t jump over an “outsider” like Trinity!!

And the #1 ranked Cardinals are now preparing to travel to Mount Union again this year for the third year in a row.  Get your tickets now and that Canton hotel room.  You know the NCAA is excited to do it again!!
Man -- you gotta be kidding me. There are only THIRTEEN points left for North Central to pick up, and you're complaining that they only have 97.9% of the maximum points a team can have?
Pat, that is exactly what I thought when I saw UWW pick up 11 pts points after a 3 point win this week on the heels of a 14 pt win over a 2-2 and unranked Berry team (that just got defeated by the same spread by an unranked Birmingham-Southern team).  I don’t really care if NCC is ranked 1st or 4th at this point, but I would like to understand how the Cardinals would have a 13 point delta (to 625 pts) on seven ballots.  I question the rationality of those votes!  I also would like to understand how 11 points went to UWW instead of a very good Mount team.  It will all shake out in the end, but it would be worthwhile if there were a bit more transparency in the D3football Top 25 polls.

Well, when you are done with the hyperbole and want to have a serious conversation, let us know. We talk about the poll quite a bit on the podcast and have done some breakdowns of the top teams and we will do so this week, plus we do even more for our Patreon subscribers, but seriously, there's plenty of rational thought being done by pollsters who put UMHB and UWW ahead of North Central considering whom each have played in 2022.
Listen every week, but should become a Patreon subscriber.  As I said, it all shakes out in the end and there are rarely issues with the final polls.  I realize this is an inexact science with lots of moving part, and I appreciate all that you and the D3football team have done for the sport over the years.  Perhaps the Patreon subscription will give me more of the clarity I am seeking.
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Trinity play calling has been atrocious to this point.  Zero creativity.  Fetter certainly not the same QB without Girard.  If they keep allowing these supposed inferior teams to stay in games, they are bound to lose one or two.
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Men's soccer / Re: 2022 Season Game Notes
« Last post by SimpleCoach on Today at 07:30:12 am »
Every poll is an exercise in bias.  Bias for which teams one believes to be ranked, and where.

Re: Messiah specifically.  After watching them dismantle Christopher Newport, I am more convinced than ever of their #1 spot.  I think they are more dynamic and lethal on the attack than Chicago.  Now can Chicago beat Messiah in a single game?  Of course, I think Chicago is a fantastic team but think their strength rests on their outstanding defensive posture. 

But from an attacking perspective, Messiah can put the ball in the back of the net in any which way.  Dead ball, run of play, corners ... and do so at lightning speed.

Hence why I am sticking to #1.

SC.
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Amhurst adds a historically inept offensive performance to what has already been an awful 2022 season…a few tidbits from yesterday’s game…no touchdowns (now 2 total TD’s in 3 games), 1 trip in to the red zone (that makes 4 trips in 3 games),  24 yards rushing on 20 carries, 8 total first downs (including 2 via Hartford State penalty), 175 yards of total offense, 13 for 31 passing including 3 interceptions (including one for a pick 6), 11 punts, 26 minutes of total possession time, and the highlight, 1 of 15 on third down. The LMs leading rusher had 13 yards on the ground. About the only highlight for the LMs yesterday: their punters averaged almost 41 yards per punt on those 11 punts.

The HS defense is decent but they are by no means the ‘85 Bears…





This upcoming weekend the big match up will be Colby at Wesleyan. I think if Colby comes out victorious they will pole vault to top tier team for this year. The victory will really put monkey wrench in championship race.On the same token Williams could be a spoiler as they travel to Middlebury. However key injuries to starting LT of Williams and a few others and there inability to throw the ball effectively makes the chances slim. I think another loss puts tem at bottom tier for this year and Tufts has shown offensively that they belong on top tier.

The LMs have now scored 19 points in 3 games for an average of about 6 points a game…more on this developing story later as HCOF EJ awaits all of those Lord Mammoth legacies to arrive.

You know what NESCACMAN wants for Christmas? Charlie to learn how to properly use the “quote’ feature on D3 Boards!

That's hilarious, but in his defense, it does take a few tries for newbies. :)
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Amhurst adds a historically inept offensive performance to what has already been an awful 2022 season…a few tidbits from yesterday’s game…no touchdowns (now 2 total TD’s in 3 games), 1 trip in to the red zone (that makes 4 trips in 3 games),  24 yards rushing on 20 carries, 8 total first downs (including 2 via Hartford State penalty), 175 yards of total offense, 13 for 31 passing including 3 interceptions (including one for a pick 6), 11 punts, 26 minutes of total possession time, and the highlight, 1 of 15 on third down. The LMs leading rusher had 13 yards on the ground. About the only highlight for the LMs yesterday: their punters averaged almost 41 yards per punt on those 11 punts.

The HS defense is decent but they are by no means the ‘85 Bears…





This upcoming weekend the big match up will be Colby at Wesleyan. I think if Colby comes out victorious they will pole vault to top tier team for this year. The victory will really put monkey wrench in championship race.On the same token Williams could be a spoiler as they travel to Middlebury. However key injuries to starting LT of Williams and a few others and there inability to throw the ball effectively makes the chances slim. I think another loss puts tem at bottom tier for this year and Tufts has shown offensively that they belong on top tier.

The LMs have now scored 19 points in 3 games for an average of about 6 points a game…more on this developing story later as HCOF EJ awaits all of those Lord Mammoth legacies to arrive.

You know what NESCACMAN wants for Christmas? Charlie to learn how to properly use the “quote’ feature on D3 Boards!
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Men's soccer / Re: Go WEST young man (and NORTH)
« Last post by Kuiper on Today at 12:39:48 am »
In the last game for SCIAC over the weekend, Oxy beat La Verne 3-0 to move into a tie with Claremont-Mudd-Scripps for first place in the conference. La Verne held serve in the first half, which ended 0-0.  In the second half, a goal off a corner kick for Oxy in the 62d minute started to unlock the game and they tacked on two PKs later in the game. I was impressed with freshman Vicente Navarro for Oxy, who was playing the 6 as a deep-lying playmaker and he pulled the strings on a lot of nice incisive, line-busting plays rather than just operating as a ball circulator from that position. He had one cross field lofted ball that was inch-perfect for a first time finish for a goal that was unfortunately called back for offside.  He also disrupted a lot of La Verne attacks in a smart way, edging his hip in front of the attacker to force him in the direction he wanted him to go rather than the bungling rugby style you see from many 6's (and, frankly, that I saw from several of his Oxy teammates who are not at his level).

In the Northwest Conference, a two game weekend leaves Willamette up top with Pacific Lutheran close by them in second.  Willamette beat Whitworth 2-1 on Saturday and Whitman 3-2 on Sunday.  The first game was a better effort from what I watched.  After falling behind 1-0 early on a breakaway against the run of play, Willamette scored a beautiful right-footed strike from the left side of the box to the right corner of the net.  That was the shot that showed me Willamette has some skill, because most of the rest of that game and the Whitman game were less than convincing.  I didn't watch the whole Whitman game because it was hurting my eyeballs, so maybe I just saw the worst parts, but there were periods where I honestly felt like I was watching a JV game in high school or even an older age group rec soccer game.  It was a bad combination of poor passes, awkward challenges, wild kicks, etc from both teams that are the product of not enough skill to dribble or pivot out of challenges and not enough athletic ability to press without running into and over each other. 

In the other notable game, Pacific Lutheran beat Pacific 4-2.  That's not really a particularly impressive result (2 goals is the most 0-8-2 Pacific has scored all season) and it's hard for me to believe Pac Lutheran lost to Whitman 2-1 a few games ago.  So, at the moment I'm not quite convinced they are back.  Nevertheless, they are 9-2 overall and 4-2 in conference, with some rematches awaiting, so Pac Lutheran could still end up back in the NCAA's with the auto bid from the conference or even without it if they keep getting results.
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BVU @ Loras  1pm 
Wartburg @ Central  1pm 
Coe @ Luther  1pm
Simpson @ Dubuque  4pm

Thanks Doolittle. I missed this.
I think Loras bounces back against BVU.
Coe over Luther, but hope Luther keeps improving.
Dubuque over Simpson. The Spartans are too much for the Storm.
Everything in me says this is Wartburg’s year the way they have been playing. Prior to Saturday I would have said Wartburg wins. I guess I still think they should and I know they will be fired up for this one. Revenge is a powerful motivator. But I’m not convinced Coach Maiuri won’t figure something out with all that talent he has to work with on offense.
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Men's soccer / Re: 2022 Season Game Notes
« Last post by blue_jays on Yesterday at 11:59:32 pm »
That's all fine...as long as it's understood that no one has disrespected Chicago in the least.  Quite the contrary. 

We are in agreement, no one has slighted them. UChicago has gotten its recognition due this year. Messiah is equally deserving of the top spot. My bigger point was UChicago can take a loss or two, drop some spots in the rankings, and still be just as good a team as we thought. Ultimately wins in November are the end goal.
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As for the game,  NCC absolutely dominated the first half and could have had at least another seven but for an INT in the end zone in the first drive of 2Q.  NCC definitely took their foot off the gas in the 3Q with VERY conservative play-calling (all QB draws, Greenfield runs up the middle, or swing passes to the TE behind the LOS).  This, coupled with some (ahem) interesting and very timely calls by the officials, allowed Wheaton to gain momentum and continue drives that were clearly over. 

Both teams had some first half miscues that could have affected the score at intermission. You can't be seriously suggesting the Cardinals got some home cooking from their own refs??

In the end, I thought all of the NCC and WC fans were treated to a fantastic hard-fought game on both sides of the ball.  WC came out fighting in the 3Q to make the contest a bit more exciting and NCC proved their National Championship-caliber mettle by orchestrating two nice long scoring drives in the 4Q that effectively put the game out of reach.  Hope both teams have success the rest of the way and am keeping my fingers crossed that we will see two CCIW teams in the playoffs.

At this point if there are 2 CCIW teams in the playoffs one of them is likely to be the Bears in St Louis. I agree with Sager that, while they have yet to play a consequential opponent, their experience and quality of play looks and smells like a contender in the CCIW. It wouldn't shock me at all to see WashU in the playoffs come November.
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General football / Re: Bracketology Projection
« Last post by Ralph Turner on Yesterday at 11:50:12 pm »
The fewest teams to receive a vote occurred in 2010, 35 teams in week 9.

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