Conference changes

[Ralph Turner]

Berea moving to the HCAC is a good pick up for the HCAC and a big hit to the CCS from a women's hoops perspective.

From a men's basketball perspective, it makes the conference's ability to get an automatic bid more tenuous, dropping to just six members. Does that cause any of the other members to go back to the USA South or can they add someone else?

Does Bob Jones University look more valuable to the CCS now?

[ziggy]

I wonder with the Berea announcement, could Asbury soon be joining as well to make it an even 12?

That was my first thought as well, particularly since it adds another Kentucky school to the HCAC.

An even dozen would allow the HCAC to realign itself into two balanced divisions.

A couple things jump out to me here.

If you're Defiance you'd be looking at a situation in which your conference has expanded in/around/beyond what was already your longest trip. If it comes to it, maybe a North/South split of divisions keeps this from being a major concern.

If you're Centre, you're looking at a situation where every other Lexington, KY area DIII is in the HCAC.

[Ralph Turner]

I wonder with the Berea announcement, could Asbury soon be joining as well to make it an even 12?

That was my first thought as well, particularly since it adds another Kentucky school to the HCAC.

An even dozen would allow the HCAC to realign itself into two balanced divisions.

A couple things jump out to me here.

If you're Defiance you'd be looking at a situation in which your conference has expanded in/around/beyond what was already your longest trip. If it comes to it, maybe a North/South split of divisions keeps this from being a major concern.

If you're Centre, you're looking at a situation where every other Lexington, KY area DIII is in the HCAC.

REspectfully, my first impression is that Centre sees its mission and vision more in line with the SAA and not the HCAC.

[ziggy]

I wonder with the Berea announcement, could Asbury soon be joining as well to make it an even 12?

That was my first thought as well, particularly since it adds another Kentucky school to the HCAC.

An even dozen would allow the HCAC to realign itself into two balanced divisions.

A couple things jump out to me here.

If you're Defiance you'd be looking at a situation in which your conference has expanded in/around/beyond what was already your longest trip. If it comes to it, maybe a North/South split of divisions keeps this from being a major concern.

If you're Centre, you're looking at a situation where every other Lexington, KY area DIII is in the HCAC.

REspectfully, my first impression is that Centre sees its mission and vision more in line with the SAA and not the HCAC.

For sure conference membership can be about more than geography and I will admit ignorance on what those might be in a lot of cases. Some level of proximity is a pretty good first pass in most cases, though.

[Greek Tragedy]

Does the CSAC/UEC conference merger have an AQ?

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Does the CSAC/UEC conference merger have an AQ?

I don't believe it's even official yet, but they'll retain an AQ when it happens.

[Greek Tragedy]

Does the CSAC/UEC conference merger have an AQ?

I don't believe it's even official yet, but they'll retain an AQ when it happens.

So are members from one conference just joining members of the other conference? How are they able to keep their AQ? I remember when the IIAC combined with the LMC, they had to wait for their AQ.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Does the CSAC/UEC conference merger have an AQ?

I don't believe it's even official yet, but they'll retain an AQ when it happens.

So are members from one conference just joining members of the other conference? How are they able to keep their AQ? I remember when the IIAC combined with the LMC, they had to wait for their AQ.

We don't have the details yet, but I imagine they wouldn't do it if they had to wait two years. I'm sure they'll just keep one conference and maybe change the name.

[WLCALUM83]

Does the CSAC/UEC conference merger have an AQ?

I don't believe it's even official yet, but they'll retain an AQ when it happens.

So are members from one conference just joining members of the other conference? How are they able to keep their AQ? I remember when the IIAC combined with the LMC, they had to wait for their AQ.

Wasn't that the IBFC combining with the LMC?

[Gregory Sager]

Does the CSAC/UEC conference merger have an AQ?

I don't believe it's even official yet, but they'll retain an AQ when it happens.

So are members from one conference just joining members of the other conference? How are they able to keep their AQ? I remember when the IIAC combined with the LMC, they had to wait for their AQ.

Wasn't that the IBFC combining with the LMC?

No, it was the IIAC and the LMC. The IBFC was the football-only precursor to the NACC in that it combined members of the IIAC and LMC under one roof. That's because plenty of IIAC and LMC schools didn't field football programs, thus making both leagues unable to reach the seven-member minimum for an AQ. Hence, the decision to combine forces to form a football-only league. It was only later that the two leagues decided to go all-in with the rest of their sports and merge to form the NACC.

[Inkblot]

Does the CSAC/UEC conference merger have an AQ?

I don't believe it's even official yet, but they'll retain an AQ when it happens.

Soccer and volleyball schedules for this fall show the conferences maintaining separate schedules and their tournament winners playing each other.

[Ralph Turner]

Does the CSAC/UEC conference merger have an AQ?

I don't believe it's even official yet, but they'll retain an AQ when it happens.

So are members from one conference just joining members of the other conference? How are they able to keep their AQ? I remember when the IIAC combined with the LMC, they had to wait for their AQ.

If I recall, neither conference wanted to bring its baggage forward (one conference merging into the other). Rather, those schools wanted a fresh start in a brand new conference. (Corrections appreciated!)

From the NACC website...

The Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference began its first season of competition in the fall of 2006, then known as the Northern Athletics Conference. The conference consists4782 of 14 private colleges and universities from the shared-border states of Illinois and Wisconsin, all of which are NCAA Division III members.

The members of the NACC include Alverno College, Aurora University, Benedictine University, Concordia University Chicago, Concordia University Wisconsin, Dominican University, Edgewood College, Illinois Institute of Technology, Lakeland University, Marian University, Milwaukee School of Engineering, Rockford University, St. Norbert College and Wisconsin Lutheran College.

Additionally, Mount Mary University maintains affiliate membership in women's cross country, Eureka College maintains affiliate membership in football, and Beloit College is an affiliate member in men's and women's lacrosse.

The NACC sponsors championships in 21 sports. Men's championships include baseball, basketball, cross country, football, golf, lacrosse, soccer, tennis, indoor track & field, outdoor track & field and volleyball. Women's championships are sponsored in basketball, cross country, golf, lacrosse, soccer, softball, tennis, indoor track & field, outdoor track & field and volleyball.

The league's charter members included Alverno, Aurora, Benedictine, Concordia Chicago, Concordia Wisconsin, Dominican, Edgewood, Lakeland, Maranatha Baptist Bible College (now Maranatha Baptist University), Marian, Rockford and Wisconsin Lutheran. The charter members shared traditional rivalries dating back to their predecessor conferences, the Lake Michigan Conference and the Northern Illinois-Iowa Conference.

[Gregory Sager]

Yeah, my bad. I meant NIIC, not IIAC.

[Inkblot]

The NACC had to go through the waiting period in most sports, but in football it inherited the IBFC's bid without a waiting period.

[Pat Coleman]

Does the CSAC/UEC conference merger have an AQ?

I don't believe it's even official yet, but they'll retain an AQ when it happens.

So are members from one conference just joining members of the other conference? How are they able to keep their AQ? I remember when the IIAC combined with the LMC, they had to wait for their AQ.

That's because they did it poorly.