20, 30 win teams -- 2010

[Just_Some_Guy]

Congratulations again to the ASC for having 3 30-win teams in the same season in '10, '09, '08, and '07, and two each in '06 and '05.

You have had 1 pool C bid out of a possible 10 pool C 30-win teams in the last 6 years. Sound off?

Perhaps, but until an ASC team overcomes Chapman to win the west region and then makes an impact in Appleton, I think history will continue to repeat itself. I'd love to see the ASC team get shipped to a different region (Central/South) and see how they fare there.

Should be some great baseball next week in Seguin with three 30+ win teams (Mississippi, UT Tyler, TLU)

JSG

[Ralph Turner]

Congratulations again to the ASC for having 3 30-win teams in the same season in '10, '09, '08, and '07, and two each in '06 and '05.

You have had 1 pool C bid out of a possible 10 pool C 30-win teams in the last 6 years. Sound off?

Perhaps, but until an ASC team overcomes Chapman to win the west region and then makes an impact in Appleton, I think history will continue to repeat itself. I'd love to see the ASC team get shipped to a different region (Central/South) and see how they fare there.

Should be some great baseball next week in Seguin with three 30+ win teams (Mississippi, UT Tyler, TLU)

JSG

2003 Championships
Mississippi College hosted a 6-team regional in 2003.  They lost in Game #9 to Champion Emory, who defeated Carthage for the Championship in Game #10.

McMurry went "2 and BBQ" in 2004 at the Bloomington Regional in a 4-team regional.

2004 Playoffs

[BoBo]

UW-Whitewater picks up wins # 30 and 31 with a DH sweep (11-3, 10-2) at UW-Superior today. The Warhawks end the day at 31-4 overall on the season (19-3 in the WIAC).

[straightHeat3]

WNEC gets to the 30 win mark once again as they won 5 straight to win their third conference tournament in its first 3 years in the TCCC. Bears are now 33-9 on the season.

5 straight conference titles in 5 years

2006- GNAC Champs
2007- GNAC Champs
2008- TCCC Champs
2009 - TCCC Champs
2010 - TCCC Champs

[Ralph Turner]

Hat tip to Just Bill for posting this on the Midwest Region board.

Check out the game stats for the winning pitcher as Wheaton IL logs its 22nd win!

http://athletics.aurora.edu/custompages/baseball/auwc5310.htm

3.2Inn  12R     11ER     11Hits     4BB  0K     2WP     0Balks     1HBP

Yeah, I would back them off the plate to if they hitting me that badly.

[Just Bill]

Hat tip to Just Bill for posting this on the Midwest Region board.

Check out the game stats for the winning pitcher as Wheaton IL logs its 22nd win!

http://athletics.aurora.edu/custompages/baseball/auwc5310.htm

3.2Inn  12R     11ER     11Hits     4BB  0K     2WP     0Balks     1HBP

Yeah, I would back them off the plate to if they hitting me that badly.

Actually, now that I look at it, that pitcher isn't eligible to get the win. He started but didn't pitch the required five innings.

[BigPoppa]

In games where the team pitches multiple players (staff day) and the starter does not meet the minimum requirements for a victory, the scorer is allowed to award the win to the pitcher he/she deemed most effective in the game. (It is a little known quirk of the game).

[mr_b]

In games where the team pitches multiple players (staff day) and the starter does not meet the minimum requirements for a victory, the scorer is allowed to award the win to the pitcher he/she deemed most effective in the game. (It is a little known quirk of the game).

I believe this rule applies only if it is agreed upon by the head coaches prior to the start of a game.  I've seen many box scores early in a season where Johnny Wholestaff pitches -- one inning at a time -- and sometimes the pitcher of record is the starter, who worked an inning, his team got a lead, and the rest of the staff held the lead for the balance of the game. A pitcher can pick up a win after a one-two-three first and then sit for the next eight innings!  The downside is that a pitcher can give up an unearned run in the first, be taken out, and eventually get tagged with the loss.

When I am scoring a game and the opponents start shuttling pitchers in every inning or two, I check with our coach to see if that rule is in force.

[CrashDavisD3]

In games where the team pitches multiple players (staff day) and the starter does not meet the minimum requirements for a victory, the scorer is allowed to award the win to the pitcher he/she deemed most effective in the game. (It is a little known quirk of the game).

I believe this rule applies only if it is agreed upon by the head coaches prior to the start of a game.  I've seen many box scores early in a season where Johnny Wholestaff pitches -- one inning at a time -- and sometimes the pitcher of record is the starter, who worked an inning, his team got a lead, and the rest of the staff held the lead for the balance of the game. A pitcher can pick up a win after a one-two-three first and then sit for the next eight innings!  The downside is that a pitcher can give up an unearned run in the first, be taken out, and eventually get tagged with the loss.

When I am scoring a game and the opponents start shuttling pitchers in every inning or two, I check with our coach to see if that rule is in force.

WINNING PITCHER
http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/BA09.pdf

The scorer shall have sole authority to make all decisions involving judgment

Winning and Losing Pitchers
SECTION 25. a. For all games of eight or more innings, a starting pitcher
must pitch at least five complete innings to receive credit as the winning pitcher.

b. If the starting pitcher does not pitch enough innings, the win is credited to a relief pitcher in the following manner:

(1) The winning relief pitcher shall be the one who is the pitcher of
record when his team goes ahead and remains ahead throughout the
remainder of the game.

(2) By pre-arrangement, if three or more pitchers are to be used, the
pitcher of record shall be considered the winning pitcher.

Note: The pitcher of record shall be the one who is in the game at the time the winning team gains the lead, provided that the lead never is relinquished, or the one who is charged with the runs by which the opposing team takes the lead, provided that the lead never is relinquished.

[Just Bill]

In games where the team pitches multiple players (staff day) and the starter does not meet the minimum requirements for a victory, the scorer is allowed to award the win to the pitcher he/she deemed most effective in the game. (It is a little known quirk of the game).

I'm well aware of the rule, but this game certainly doesn't appear to meet that qualification.  It must be by pre-arrangement, meaning before the game.  I highly doubt the manager's pre-arranged plan that he communicated to the official scorer was to throw one guy for 3.2 innings and then another guy for 0.1 innings.  This game would not qualify for that rule.

I've been the official scorer for hundreds of games and I've many coaches try to claim this rule after the fact. That doesn't fly.  If you don't tell the scorer of your intentions before the game starts you can't enforce the rule retroactively.

[CrashDavisD3]

In games where the team pitches multiple players (staff day) and the starter does not meet the minimum requirements for a victory, the scorer is allowed to award the win to the pitcher he/she deemed most effective in the game. (It is a little known quirk of the game).

I'm well aware of the rule, but this game certainly doesn't appear to meet that qualification.  It must be by pre-arrangement, meaning before the game.  I highly doubt the manager's pre-arranged plan that he communicated to the official scorer was to throw one guy for 3.2 innings and then another guy for 0.1 innings.  This game would not qualify for that rule.

I've been the official scorer for hundreds of games and I've many coaches try to claim this rule after the fact. That doesn't fly.  If you don't tell the scorer of your intentions before the game starts you can't enforce the rule retroactively.

Agreed. NCAA rule book is real clear on this one.

[Just Bill]

In fact there's been a handful of D-III teams in the past that I believe have abused this rule to inflate their starting pitchers' Win/Loss records. I'm talking 80s and 90s, not really recently.

I've seen teams start their ace, and pile up a 10-0 lead in the first three innings. Then suddenly the game becomes a "staff day" and after the fact the manager claims he always intended to use a bunch of bodies, so that his ace gets the win.  Can't prove it unless you were there, but it sure looks sketchy.

[Ralph Turner]

Hat tip to Just Bill for posting this on the Midwest Region board.

Check out the game stats for the winning pitcher as Wheaton IL logs its 22nd win!

http://athletics.aurora.edu/custompages/baseball/auwc5310.htm

3.2Inn  12R     11ER     11Hits     4BB  0K     2WP     0Balks     1HBP

Yeah, I would back them off the plate to if they hitting me that badly.

Aurora has changed the boxscore, and awarded the win to the second reliever, Z. Fallon, who got an out to finish the fifth inning.

[CrashDavisD3]

Hat tip to Just Bill for posting this on the Midwest Region board.

Check out the game stats for the winning pitcher as Wheaton IL logs its 22nd win!

http://athletics.aurora.edu/custompages/baseball/auwc5310.htm

3.2Inn  12R     11ER     11Hits     4BB  0K     2WP     0Balks     1HBP

Yeah, I would back them off the plate to if they hitting me that badly.

Aurora has changed the boxscore, and awarded the win to the second reliever, Z. Fallon, who got an out to finish the fifth inning.

I wonder how many scorers over the years have incorrectly applied the rule and possibly inflated pitchers wins numbers...It may not happen that often just wondering out loud.....

[CrashDavisD3]

Should be a lengthy list by season's end. I'll set the over/under at 164 teams.

Yes the list now is quite long but I still think under the 164 over/under you predicted.

Still there are more teams below 20 wins than above as the is indicated in this link
http://www.d3baseball.com/standings/