BB: General New England Discussion

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dgilblair

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Well I knew what happen to Score and why his career was not what it could have been.   Score was a great prodigy that could or should have been an all time great HOF'er.  As my son is a Indians fan and me being a baseball nut who collects cards and loves baseball stories, even not so old ones as far as that go's. I talk to ECSU fans that have followed the team for a decade or so and love their take on the teams of the past as to the teams of the present, but I digress. Score was a lefty with a great fastball and I knew that he got hit in the face.  I do believe there was a Boston player who suffered a similar fate.  I don't remember all of this.

Compliments of Wikipedia:
Score came up as a rookie in 1955 with the Cleveland Indians. He quickly became one of the top power pitchers in the American League, no small feat on a team that still included Bob Feller, Bob Lemon and other top pitchers, going 16-10 with a 2.85 ERA in his first year. A left-hander, Score struck out 245 batters in his rookie year, a rookie record that stood until 1984, when it was topped by Dwight Gooden (Score, Gooden, Don Sutton, Gary Nolan, Kerry Wood, and Hideo Nomo were actually the only six rookie pitchers to top 200 strikeouts in the 20th century). Score actually topped himself in 1956, going 20-9 with a 2.53 ERA and 263 strikeouts, while reducing the number of walks from 154 to 129. He also allowed 5.85 hits/9 innings, which would stand as a franchise record low until it was broken by Luis Tiant's 5.30 in 1968.

1957-1958
On May 7, 1957, against the New York Yankees, Score was struck in the face by a line drive off the bat of Gil McDougald, breaking numerous bones in his face and leaving him quite bloodied. McDougald reportedly vowed to retire if Score was blinded as a result, but Score actually eventually recovered his 20/20 vision, though he missed the rest of the season. Score returned late in the 1958 season, but fearful of being hit by another batted ball, his pitching motion was altered, and he was never quite the same pitcher.

Later Career:
His velocity dropped and he became prone to injury as a result of the changed motion. Score pitched the full 1959 season, going 9-11 with a 4.71 ERA and 147 strikeouts. Score was traded to the Chicago White Sox after the season, and pitched parts of the subsequent three seasons before retiring. Score finished with a career record of 55-46 and a 3.36 ERA and 837 strikeouts over 8 seasons, in 858 1/3 innings pitched.

Broadcasting Career:
After retiring, Score served as an announcer on the Indians television broadcast from 1964-1967, and joined the radio broadcast, serving from 1968-1997. Score was revered by fans for his announcing style, including a low voice and a low-key style, as well as a habit of occasionally mispronouncing the names of players on opposing teams.

Score's final Major League Baseball game as play-by-play announcer was Game 7 of the 1997 World Series. He outlasted all other Indians play-by-play announcers to date.

Traffis Accident:
On October 8, 1998, while driving to Florida after being inducted into the Broadcasters Hall of Fame the night before, Score was severely injured in a traffic accident.[1] Score pulled into the path of a westbound tractor-trailer truck in New Philadelphia, Ohio; and his car was struck in the passenger side.[2] He suffered trauma to his brain, chest and lungs. The orbital bone around one of his eyes was broken as were three ribs and his sternum. He spent over a month in the intensive care unit, and was released from MetroHealth Hospital in mid-December.[3][4] He was cited for failure to stop at a stop sign.[5]

He fought through a difficult recovery and was healthy enough to throw out the first pitch at the Indians Opening Day on April 12, 1999.[6]

Lagacy:
In 1981, Lawrence Ritter and Donald Honig included him in their book The 100 Greatest Baseball Players of All Time. They explained what they called "the Smokey Joe Wood Syndrome," where a player of truly exceptional talent but a career curtailed by injury should still, in spite of not having had career statistics that would quantitatively rank him with the all-time greats, be included on their list of the 100 greatest players. In the book's introduction, they used this as their reason why Score, with 55 career wins, was on their list, while Early Wynn, who won 300 games, all in the post-1920 Live Ball Era, was not.

Now we know why he was barely remembered but that still doesn't tell us what happened to the game that was rained-out? 

RedDevils36

The 106th season of the Portland Twilight League is upon us, based out of Portland, Maine.

Portland Twilight Baseball League tryouts will take place on Sunday, May 18th at 10AM. They will be held at the Frozen Ropes Training Center. Any interested in trying out will need to pay a $10 and pre-register (either now or upon arrival). You may obtain a pre-registration sheet at Frozen Ropes in Westbrook. A draft will take place at 2PM the same day and you will be contacted by your coach/manager.

Anyone who has graduated High School is eligible to tryout. The majority of our players are between 18-25, but there are still older players sprinkled throughout the league.

Anyone living in the Sanford area (Biddeford and south essentially) may send me a private message and I will forward your information to the General Manager of the team. Same goes for anyone living north of Lewiston (I believe they are having their own tryout).

If you have any questions about the league, feel free to email me.

Ralph Turner

Thanks Frank and Dgilblair.  +1!

I had a "Field of Dreams" moment there recalling Herb Score.

Baseball has the best stories!

Take home lesson...

There are very few things better in life than enjoying a baseball game with your Dad, (or watching your kids play).

You won't know how much you miss your dad until he is gone.   :)


dgilblair

Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 11, 2008, 07:29:50 PM
Thanks Frank and Dgilblair.  +1!

I had a "Field of Dreams" moment there recalling Herb Score.

Baseball has the best stories!

Take home lesson...

There are very few things better in life than enjoying a baseball game with your Dad, (or watching your kids play).

You won't know how much you miss your dad until he is gone.   :)



Frank deserves most of the credit for that, but thanks. 

Nice take home lesson on top of +1 karma. 

frank uible

Ralph, you are welcome. DGil, I believe the Red Sox player was Tony Conigliaro. I'll let a Red Sox fan  tell the story.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: frank uible on May 12, 2008, 12:17:07 AM
Ralph, you are welcome. DGil, I believe the Red Sox player was Tony Conigliaro. I'll let a Red Sox fan tell the story.
Tony_Conigliaro

Oh yes......

That ranks up there with Eight Belles and Joe Theisman for pornographic* calamitous injuries in sporting events.   I haven't looked to see if the film clip is on youtube! :-\

* "you know it when you see it"

frank uible

For the ultimate in on-field MLB tragedies google "Ray Chapman".

kscer

Quote from: frank uible on May 12, 2008, 06:10:19 AM
For the ultimate in on-field MLB tragedies google "Ray Chapman".
There's a book called "the Pitch that Killed" by Mike Sowell that really puts a human being to this statistic.

DIII Dad

I believe the pitcher that got hit with the line drive back at him from the Red Sox was Bryce Florie. Was watching that game and woke my wife up to tell her. She saw the replays and it didn't make her feel to good considering our son is a pitcher.

soxfan42585

I have enjoyed what d3baseball.com has done for publicity for division 3 baseball.  Especially in New England.  The all-american rankings they coem up with are fun as well.  I have to say, however- that this years rankings are a travesty.

My count may be off, I don't know.  I think I counted 56 players in total named to 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and Honorable Mention.  A whopping 5 players from New England were named.  Are you kidding me?  I am sorry, but the averages need to be considered.  There are teams out West that are playing more games, further spread out and the scores are higher, warmer weather vs weak pitching.  I would line up a team of 9 New England players that should be on that list.


OshDude

Quote from: soxfan42585 on May 20, 2008, 10:48:00 PM
I have enjoyed what d3baseball.com has done for publicity for division 3 baseball.  Especially in New England.  The all-american rankings they coem up with are fun as well.  I have to say, however- that this years rankings are a travesty.

My count may be off, I don't know.  I think I counted 56 players in total named to 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and Honorable Mention.  A whopping 5 players from New England were named.  Are you kidding me?  I am sorry, but the averages need to be considered.  There are teams out West that are playing more games, further spread out and the scores are higher, warmer weather vs weak pitching.  I would line up a team of 9 New England players that should be on that list.
Could be worse ... the Midwest had four players.

Pat Coleman

Kinda makes you wonder who was nominated from your nine players, soxfan.

Eight regions, 59 players -- the average region would in theory have seven. It's a fairly exclusive list. We're not putting four outfielders or two utility players or two catchers or two second basemen on a team. Those are just some examples of what the coaches association New England team has.

D3sports.com doesn't work that way. Does it mean that our people have to make a lot of tough calls when All-American time comes around? You bet. But we don't duck tough decisions.
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Rick Vaughn

I was hoping that Trin would get more than one.  Obviously Kiely was a first-teamer, and I thought should have been pitcher of the year.  I was hoping that Wood, Killeen, Graham, Regan, Bayer, or Barnard would get at least Hon Mention.

On the NE getting the shaft bit, what really hurt the regions numbers was the lack of big numbers from EConn.  Hate em or love em they spit out players with big time numbers and they often grab two or three slots on those teams.  Gilblair's injury and Castillo's numbers sliding slightly are what hurt NE more.  That said, I still would have liked to see more than one player from a 41-0 team get some love.

ecfaninri

Rick Vaughn.
I can't agree more.... Trinity being 41-0, going through NE like they did and the regional... there's got to be more than one. Nationally, hopefully this weekend, Trinity will show how well rounded they are beyond Kiely. He deserves it, but I think the country will get to see more of what made them 41-0 this year.

YagsUMB

Wood and Graham undoubtedly deserved at least honorable mention accolades. Hopefully they see this and it motivates them to take the National Championship back to NE. Not that they need any more motivation. They really got hosed with that Cortland draw but I guess they are doing everything by region, so they knew what they were in for. A win in that first game and they should have the confidence to keep rolling through the weekend.