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#1
Quote from: Trin9-0 on September 26, 2023, 08:56:01 PM
Quote from: Nescacman on September 21, 2023, 06:24:00 PM
Quote from: The Mole on September 21, 2023, 06:17:14 PM
Champs SINCE 2000

Trinity--10
Amherst--6
Williams--5
Middlebury--4
Wesleyan--1
Colby--1

2000   Amherst/Colby/Middlebury
2001   Williams
2002   Trinity/Williams
2003   Trinity
2004   Trinity
2005   Trinity
2006   Williams
2007   Middlebury
2008   Trinity
2009   Amherst
2010   Williams
2011   Amherst
2012   Trinity
2013   Amherst/Middlebury/Wesleyan
2014   Amherst
2015   Amherst
2016   Trinity
2017   Trinity
2018   Trinity
2019   Middlebury
2020   COVID-19
2021   Williams
2022   Trinity

Thank you Mole. We're sure our friends from Hartford State will be providing more color on this throughout the evening. Can't wait... ;D

Quote from: Trin9-0 on October 22, 2021, 10:16:45 AM
With this being the 50th Season of NESCAC football I went down a rabbit hole to determine the league school(s) with the best record for each of the previous 49 seasons. Common sense would tell you that this represents the schools who have won NESCAC championships. However, as some are eager to remind us, the league only began officially crowning a champion in 2000.

Either way, it's clear to see that the league has been dominated by four schools for the past 5 decades: Trinity, Williams, Amherst, and Middlebury.
The Bantams have won at least a share of the league title 16 times (a third of all championships). The Ephs can claim 14 titles, while their rivals the Jeffs/Mammoths have won at least a share of 13 championships and finally, Middlebury has won or tied for the best record in the league 11 times.

At least one of these four schools has had the best NESCAC football record in 47 of the past 49 season (96%)! Aside from the big four, only Tufts (in 1979 and 1986) has won an outright title. Hamilton, Colby, and Wesleyan can each claim a share of a championship (in 1987, 2000, and 2013 respectively).

It looks likely that either Trinity or Williams will continue the trend this year, but Wesleyan shocked us last year so anything is possible.





   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
YEAR   SCHOOL
WINS 
LOSSES 
TIES
1971Williams
7
1
1972Middlebury
8
0
1973Amherst/Middlebury
7
1
1974Trinity/Williams
7
1
1975Williams
7
0
1
1976Middlebury
7
1
1977Middlebury
7
1
1978Trinity
7
1
1979Tufts
8
0
1980Trinity
7
1
1981Middlebury
7
1
1982Amherst
7
1
1983Middlebury/Trinity
6
2
1984Amherst
8
0
1985Amherst
7
0
1
1986Tufts
7
1
1987Amherst/Hamilton/Trinity
6
2
1988Williams
6
1
1
1989Williams
8
0
1990Williams
8
0
1991Trinity
6
1
1
1992Middlebury
7
1
1993Trinity
8
0
1994Williams
8
0
1995Williams
7
0
1
1996Amherst
7
1
1997Amherst/Wesleyan/Williams
7
1
1998Williams
8
0
1999Williams
7
1
2000Amherst/Colby/Middlebury
7
1
2001Williams
8
0
2002Trinity/Williams
7
1
2003Trinity
8
0
2004Trinity
8
0
2005Trinity
8
0
2006Williams
8
0
2007Middlebury
7
1
2008Trinity
8
0
2009Amherst
8
0
2010Williams
8
0
2011Amherst
8
0
2012Trinity
8
0
2013Amherst/Middlebury/Wesleyan
7
1
2014Amherst
8
0
2015Amherst
8
0
2016Trinity
8
0
2017Trinity
8
1
2018Trinity
8
1
2019Middlebury
9
0
2020N/A

Mole, it looks like we may have duplicated our efforts but glad to see that your research turned up the same results. It bears repeating that in 51 seasons of NESCAC play there's been only two years where either Trinity, Williams, Amherst, or Middlebury didn't end up with the best record (Tufts in 1979, '86). In addition only Hamilton (1987), Colby (2000) and Wesleyan (1997, 2013) can claim even a tri-championship.

Since the formal inception of the NESCAC it really seems to be those top four programs and then everyone else.

I was on the Hamilton FB staff in 1987, and it was a very good team, losing one NESCAC game (14-9 to Trinity) and one OOC game (7-0 to Brockport in a horrific snowstorm) Had Herb Hand as an OT (now a D-1 OLine coach on the squad).    Hamilton has not matched six wins since then.....

Trinity lost one NESCAC game that year (13-10 to Amherst) and lost vs. Coast Guard 30-6 - I believe Rich Nagy was their stud TB then. 

Amherst lost two NESCAC games that year:  29-7 vs Bowdoin and 25-7 vs Williams.   

Bates had Chris Hickey as TB who was a major offensive weapon.  Ironic that Chris' son and my son ended up as teammates for Amherst FB in the late 2010's. 
#2
Quote from: Charlie on December 17, 2022, 09:32:20 PM
crazy question anyone know who has gone on to the Pro's from NESCAC. The last one I remember was Mark Buben from Tufts back in the 80's


Alex Bernstein  -  was at Colby for 1 year, then transferred to & graduated from Amherst in 1997...Was DL in college, then moved to play OL in the Pro's...
#3
One side note that I think NESCAC has to do away with is CO-Champions. Any other League would decide a champion either by head to head competition or some other kind of formula. I would love to see in this situation some kind of final game between the two but we all know that will never happen.
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This is NESCAC's version of the "participation trophy". Our recollection is that NESCAC did use head-to-head as a league champion tie breaker in football for perhaps a year or two and then scrapped it for some reason. As we have discussed (and previously shared the link to the documentation on the NESCAC web-site), they are just happy with ties now.
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NM is right.  The only time this happened/mattered in the 9-game NESCAC era was in 2018 when Amherst and Trinity both finished 8-1, but the Bantams won the head-to-head matchup...while they were disappointed, no squawking came from the Mammoths.  NESCAC changed its direction soon thereafter, so co-champs could exist.
#4
The sound is still not working for UMHB & Muhlenberg....   it is really disappointing, given the high production quality...how does the streamer get notified.????
#5
Quote from: Nescacman on August 22, 2022, 10:19:26 AM
Quote from: nescac1 on August 22, 2022, 09:04:53 AM
Trivia question for NESCAC fans: when was the last football game that Williams won with a starting QB other than Bobby Maimaron, and who was the starting QB in that game?

Great question!!! Was it Aaron Kelton?

Seriously...I think it was Austin Lommen in 2015 against one of the Maine teams....maybe UBates??? Long time...Bischoping started in 2018 against the Lord Mammoths after Bobby got hurt against Wes, but the Ephs lost to the Lord Jeffs that day in a close game...

We all assume that your "close game" comment was tongue-in-cheek Nescacman, as the final score was 45-14 for the Mammoths
#6
Quote from: jumpshot on June 23, 2022, 04:14:56 PM
The reality is that NESCAC schools are continuously in a capital campaign (silent phase, major gifts, etc.). There is currently intense pressure on amHerst to follow Williams's lead in converting all financial aid into grants, which the mammoths will undoubtedly do.  Dartmouth announced a slightly modified action earlier this week. A few other small liberal arts colleges will also follow for competitive factors, as well as to enhance culture.

Jumpshot -  ....it's about time the Ephs did this........Amherst has led the way doing just that since 2009 :   https://www.amherst.edu/news/news_releases/2007/07_2007/node/14307



       
#7
and, in fact, had sets with 3 QBs on the field at the same time....
#8
Not so fast, my friend....In reality, the multi QB sets were implemented by Gleeson's former boss -  OC James Perry - who is now the HCOF at Brown University...it was Perry's innovation that Gleeson helped execute as an assistant coach.

Sure enough, Gleeson continued the sets after Perry departed for his first HCOF job at Bryant College
#9
...and no, Pat Coleman did not pay me for the free advertisement/endorsement of his site....:)
#10
Nescacman -   I find it always easiest to bookmark D3 site either on my computer or my phone, then go to Scores for NESCAC -  can always find either the link to Video stream of game or to Live Stats - although "Live" stats is a serious misnomer.....
#11
Agree that the CC board has been weak....Not sure why there is no chatter or digs at other schools, when it has 3 of the top 38 teams in the national poll....
#12
Quote from: amh63 on June 07, 2021, 04:30:16 PM
Interesting "news" on the Bowdoin football website!  There is on the football site, an announcement of the hiring of three new assist. coaches Today.  Going to the normal football site, the info on coaches shows the Head Coach, and 7 assistant coaches....very little info wrt duties.  Bowdoin appears to have 11 coaches...3 more than the norm for a Nescac football staff.  Will await Fall to see how things shake out 8-)

AMH63 -  Bowdoin hasn't updated their football site in a while.  K. Loney moved off fb staff to athletic admin role;  R.Eggerling left a while ago - announced as DC at Southern Connecticut State in Sept.2020.
#13
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NESCAC
November 16, 2020, 03:26:05 PM
Sorry -  not Fru Che......
#15
Amherst has now made it official -  no Fall sports    https://www.amherst.edu/news/covid-19/fall-2020-plans