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Title: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on February 11, 2005, 03:29:01 PM
Hater you're clueless!  Chris Stevens is the exact kid you need on the floor.  He's there best defender and is exactly what you said, "a hustle player"  Maybe if Brody did that he'd play!  They have enough 3-point shooters and good ball handlers and the twins do enough scoring for the whole team.  Jackson is a dime a dozen in d3 hoops.  Maybe he should go play at Westminster where all they do is shoot 3's and play no d!  Oh yeah when he score 1400 points for Bethany, then you can argue basketball with me.  Please get off this kids sac and talk about something worth talking about.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: A-K-Ron Hater on February 12, 2005, 08:05:17 PM
Brody Jackson wasnt that good of a player even when he was in high school...theres no way he should be playing ahead of scotty, jimmy, josh, chris, or duncan.....and plus i dont know of too many coachs that are clueless and lead a team to a 20-3 record
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Hater on February 12, 2005, 08:12:12 PM
Oh Jesus, everybody knows everything about Mr. Jackson....this is the most rediculous thing I've ever see, I make one comment about how Brody is pretty darn good and Chris is a DIME A DOZEN, and suddenly everything becomes a big deal...and I dont know anything about basketball, so screw you "Joe Smith" and "Akron Hater"... just keep acting like you know everything about Bethany and Basketball, because neither of you know anything....buttheads
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on February 13, 2005, 10:11:04 AM
Look at the record books in the media guide for Bethany.  You'll see me as the 4th all-time leading scorer.  Yea you're right I dont know anything!  I jst can't believe we wasted all these posts talking about a kid that prolly wont play until hisjunioir or senior year if he sticks it out that long!

As for useful info, Bethany beats Westminster last night 110-99 to improve to 20-3 and 7-1 in the conference.  They are now 15-2 in the region which is really hard to overlook for the tourny.  Westminster falls to 14-9 and a suprising 4-4 in league play.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Moderator on February 13, 2005, 12:34:24 PM
Hey, A-K, glad to see you finally got around to reading the rules and used a real e-mail address to register. We don't appreciate all the fake e-mail bouncebacks, buddy.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Hater on February 14, 2005, 02:55:04 PM
These Bison are really starting to piss me off, I mean jesus christ...the Drahos brothers aren't even that damn good and yet the entire sports section of the Wheeling Intelligencer was about them, I mean honestly they are tall....they aren't that athletic...let me shoot that much and I'll drop 40 points too, this is getting rediculous, I still have   faith in Brody, he'll be gettin honest time as a sophomore, and just for the record, Brody works as hard as Stephens anyday...it's only a matter of time, Matt Drahos is a joke ---- put BRODY IN!!! butthead
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on February 14, 2005, 09:13:42 PM
Big Daddy,
Thanks for posting those links about Geneva possibly joining the PAC.  That was interesting information.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School on February 15, 2005, 03:13:30 AM
D3hoops Fan's (Poster's) Top 25 Poll next year?
 
Attn:
 
I am currently thinking about running a fan's poll for the Top 25 starting next season (may not have a poll until the new year, to avoid previous year's bias, among other things).  I am looking for posters who are knowledgeable not only about their teams, but about their conference and even other conferences, and having a familiarity about other regions as well.  Obviously, there will be some bias towards the teams you know, but it is very important to become familiar with other teams from other regions of the nation.  Though this is a Top 25 poll for fun, it is important to take it seriously and not just vote your team #1 just for the sake of it.  I also ask that you not miss sending in your ballots any week.  It's not a pick em league where you simply go 0-25 for the week!  Ballots would be submitted by Sunday night/early Monday morning, prior to the official D3Hoops poll coming out.  This poll would be strictly independent of the official poll.  
 
If you are interested, feel you qualify, and are willing to take this seriously, to a point, please email me to show your interest.  Include in the subject line: Poster's Poll, or something like that.  Also include your handle, since I most likely won't know your handle from your real name (email address), the conference/team and region you would "represent".  I'd like to get at least one poster from each region.  
 
Thanks.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on February 15, 2005, 05:15:11 PM
Here's my shot at what the NCAA Great Lakes Regional ranking will look like when released.  The NCAA only ranks 5 teams, but I included all teams with SOSI's in the top 100 nationally just for information purposes:
RankTeamSOSIOverall W/LReg W/LReg W/L%WRR*s
1Wooster10.52622-118-10.9472Transylvania, Wittenberg
2Albion10.53820-211-20.8463Ramapo, Calvin, Calvin
3Wittenberg10.47120-315-20.8821Wooster
4John Carroll10.26318-415-40.7891King's
5Calvin9.54518-59-20.8181Wartburg
6Bethany9.11820-315-20.8820
7Muskingum9.19015-814-70.6672JCU, JCU
8Otterbein9.50016-712-60.6670
9Baldwin-Wallace8.89517-613-60.6842Mary Washington, JCU
10Capital9.20014-812-80.6000
11Adrian9.06712-109-60.6000

*WRRs = Wins over Regionally Ranked teams, which is a factor considered by the NCAA; and the rightmost column lists those wins.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on February 15, 2005, 09:07:10 PM
That's the funniest post I've read Hater or should I say Paul, dumb freshman.  I won't even respond.

Wow Bethany looks impressive right now.  I'd say they could still lose maybe once and get in.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Hater on February 15, 2005, 09:49:36 PM
hahahahaha.....butthead
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on February 16, 2005, 05:11:39 PM
New regional rankings are out.  In the Great Lakes, it's the same quintet, just in a different order:

1. Wooster (22-1, 18-1 reg.)
2. Wittenberg (20-3, 15-2)
3. Albion (20-2, 11-2)
4. John Carroll (18-4, 15-4)
5. Calvin (18-5, 9-2)
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 17, 2005, 12:07:14 AM
Waterboy, thanks for the history and perspective on Gheny.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on February 17, 2005, 08:57:27 AM
Bethany crushes Waynesburg last night by 40 to clinch home court througout the conference tourny.  They improve to 21-3 and 16-2 in the region.

Some suprises as Westminster loses to W&J and Grove City falls to Thiel.  looks like the 3 through 6 seeds are still up in the air.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: d-mac on February 27, 2005, 05:01:35 PM
It is time to find out who is in... and who is out.
Whose bubble has been burst and who is wearing Cinderella's glass slippers.
It's Selection Sunday... and tonight there will be a special "Hoopsville" as the 2005 NCAA Men's and Women's Basketball Brackets are announced... LIVE on our air!
The Road to Salem and Virginia Beach officially starts tonight!


It plans to be a huge night... as 50 womens and 48 mens teams are officially invited to the dance and a chance at a national title.

Some teams already know they are going (thanks to winning their conferences) and some think they are going, but there are always surprises.

So tonight, we will break it all down. Starting at 8:30 PM EST, we will take a look at who is definitely in, who might make it, who will be disappointed, and what match-ups you might want to look forward to seeing later in the week.

Then at 10:00 PM EST... we will broadcast LIVE the Women's Selection Show so you can find out when we do... the 50 teams on the Road to Virginia Beach.

That will be followed by the Men's Selection Show at 10:30 PM EST - when 48 teams find out what their Road to Salem will be like.

After those selections... we will go over it with a fine-tooth comb and find out who we think are the surprises!

And throughout the show, we will hear from different regions with live reports and talk to coaches that have made surprising moves into the tournament.

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Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Big Daddy on February 28, 2005, 05:33:12 PM
Kudos to the Bison and hope they do something good against JC.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: jcu87alum on February 28, 2005, 10:22:25 PM
I know this is a response to a dated item, but it's still on this page.  To MasterCardinal, Franciscan University is NOT a Jesuit school . . . it is a Franciscan school, i.e. run by the Franciscan order, not the Jesuits.  The Jesuits take a back seat to no one when it comes to rigid academic priorities, but if they were so rigid as to limit athletics, there'd be no teams from Georgetown, Boston College, Loyola Marymount, USF, John Carroll, Fordham, Gonzaga, Marquette, St. Louis U., et al (all Jesuit colleges and universities).
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: d-mac on March 01, 2005, 04:13:18 PM
It's time for the Big Dance... the teams are selected... the games are scheduled... and now 48 men's and 50 women's teams will take to the court this weekend with the same goal... a national title.
But who will win? The tournament previews are tonight on "Hoopsville"!!!


Sunday night we were live when the teams were selected and we found out who was in and out. The women's bracket was done relatively well... the men's bracket seems to be a bit of a disappointment.

But now we are looking ahead at the big games this weekend. From now on its win or go home.

One of those men's teams that is one of the hottest in the nation is #17 Gustavus Adulphus... who is riding an 18-game winning streak into the NCAA Tournament. The Gusties now will take on Lawrence on Thursday and could face the defending National Champs, UW-Stevens Point on Saturday. So, what might Mark Hanson be thinking. We will hear from him tonight and how his team has recovered from their 4-5 start to the season.

Now... the NCAA doesn't seed the Men's and Women's Brackets... but we will!
Tonight, live on the air, we will seed the men's and women's brackets according to how we see it and how we think the NCAA was thinking. So you can get an idea of who the NCAA thinks are the top teams and who might be hosting games in the Sweet 16 and Elite 8 (Regionals).

And there are new #1 teams in both the Men's and Women's Top-25 this week... but barely. UW-Stevens Point is just points ahead of Amherst on the men's side. And on the women's, it is just a point between Scranton and Bowdoin.

We will breakdown the final regular season Top-25 and try and figure out what the voters were thinking. Along with pointing out how not all of the Top-25 made the tournament.

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Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Toph on March 06, 2005, 04:42:53 PM
"You'll lose Saturday"
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on March 07, 2005, 12:24:37 PM
As you can see not many people post on this thread so insulting the Bethany fans is basically a waste of time being im the only Bethany poster on here and I could care less.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Big Daddy on April 06, 2005, 06:45:01 PM
The PAC is adding Thomas More as the 7th member of the conference in all sports beginning in the fall of 2005. They will also be eligible for all conference titles from the start.

Press release said they believe the 2-year wait for automatic bids to the tournaments will be waived by the NCAA.

Thomas More is across the river from Cincinnati so there's some long drives to and from the western PA area. Must have in mind adding some other schools along I-71 & I-75. Doesn't make much sense to me.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 06, 2005, 07:50:38 PM
Big Daddy, I think that the Pres AC has 1-3 schools in mind, especially some from the southern Ohio-southeastern Indiana region.

The AQ issue extends to every sport.  Thomas More's addition will give the Pres AC an AQ in football, volleyball, men's and women's hoops,  men's and women's soccer, baseball and softball.

There are even discussions about extending the AQ procedures to Men's and Women's Tennis (where TMC would be the 7th for both), to Cross Country (where TMC would be the 5th Men's team and the 7th Women's team) and to Golf (where TMC would be the 6th Men's and the 4th Women's teams).

As I have followed the new Provisionals joining D3, I do not see any better choices for the Pres AC to gain members in the near future  One travel partner who sees the Pres AC as a more compatible conference may be possible to find.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Big Daddy on April 06, 2005, 08:35:20 PM
Ralph,

To me there's a half dozen D-3 schools here in western PA that would be more natural fits for the PAC if expansion is what their looking for. Plus there's other NAIA school & Penn State branch campuses that have been talking about going D-3.  

The natural rivalry aspect of these relatively close schools translates into increased people in the stands and a more exciting atmosphere plus more gate & concession money. Just look at the Geneva/Westminster game of this past year. Biggest crowd of the year for Geneva. Who from Westminster is going to drive to northern KY for a game in January?

Depending on which team from the PAC your talking about, the drive from Pittsburgh to the I-75/I-275 split in KY by bus is 5-6 hours DEPENDING ON TRAFFIC around Columbus and Cincy.

My head is still spinning from this news. Maybe the head-cheeses have a grand idea but I think it's a DUMB IDEA. Tuition will have to increase a thousand dollars a semester to cover transportation charges.

I'm done ranting...........someone please explain it to me.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Big Daddy on April 06, 2005, 08:38:04 PM
And 1 more thing...........I scooped the Grand Wizard Pat Coleman with this story!!!! You've got to quit taking afternoon naps PAT!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 06, 2005, 09:46:18 PM
Big Daddy,

Sorry. I posted it on D3football.com at 2:15 and on D3hoops.com at 7:30. I thought in April it would be ok for me to feed my kids dinner before I got things updated for you. Sorry if that bothers you.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 06, 2005, 09:47:00 PM
And don't call me Grand Wizard. That's a hate-filled term and I want nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 06, 2005, 11:19:15 PM
Big Daddy, the transition to D3 would take at least until 2012 for NAIA and non-align Penn State schools.  Also, I understand that the NAIA has changed their by-laws so that any NAIA school that declares for the NCAA is ineligible for the NAIA playoffs.  That means that a program is in the intercollegiate athletic winderness for some students' entire athletic career.  IMHO, very few NAIA schools will make the move now.  TMC apparently was the quickest fix.

Earlier in this thread, Master Cardinal postulated that those eastern PA D3's did not wish to leave where they were for the Presidents' AC.  I trust his impressions.  The Presidents AC realized that they must move elsewhere and TMC was excited to oblige.

(Message edited by rturner on April 6, 2005)
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Big Daddy on April 07, 2005, 07:34:50 AM
Sorry Pat,

Your correct, that's a bad term to use. Bad choice of words on my part but I didn't mean it in that context.  

But...........You seem to be able to throw a dig out but not able to take one very well.  


Ralph,

I hear ya and what your saying about the NAIA's and such......it's just that I see how Geneva's overall performance in footbal and basketball has slipped over the recent years and I believe one of the major reasons is the geography of their conference. Just isn't that much local interest when they schedule teams from distant places. It's still small-college sports and I think they still need some sort of semi-local/regional flavor to generate fan interest.  

Guess I still remember (at least to me) what I'd call(or remember) the best years of the PAC when Allegheny, Hiram, Case & John Carrol where here but I guess that's a pipe dream to see that happen again.

Hope it's sucessful for the PAC.............I just don't think it will. We'll see in 10 years.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: hopefan on April 07, 2005, 10:38:43 AM
As a former resident of Western Pa, my reaction too was what a mismatch of geographics.  The allure of the PrAC is the close proximity of the schools... To bring in T More some 600 miles away makes no sense -  Way too much travel (at least 3 trips assuming playing each school home and away) for Thomas More, and one additional long trip for each of the original members.  Yet the NCAA tournament structure is based totally on geographics - limiting travel -  rather than logical seedings.... NO SENSE
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 07, 2005, 11:22:32 AM
Thomas More appears to be 270 miles from W&J, 330 miles from Thiel, 260 from Bethany, 300 miles from Waynesburg, 340 miles from Grove City and 320 miles from Westminster.

Guess we'll have to see who else they pull into the league.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on April 07, 2005, 01:30:51 PM
Furthermore, Thomas More died "the King's good servant, but God's first."  Seems an unlikely candidate to align with Presidents! :-)
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Toph on April 07, 2005, 03:23:15 PM
DC-
Well done.  Excellent reference.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Big Daddy on May 18, 2005, 04:05:46 PM
Westmister assistant Ben O'Connor accepted the head coaching job at Fox Chapel High School near Pittsburgh a couple weeks ago. BTW, this is the school district where the "Heinz-Kerry" compound is located. Hope those Democrats can play some ball.  

It was reported in all the local papers that Ben was the leading candidate to replace the retired "Legend of PA high school basketball" John Miller from Blackhawk High School but he withdrew his name from consideration.

Congrats Ben and Good Luck!
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: hopefan on May 19, 2005, 08:24:39 AM
Hope he's been saving up his earnings from Westminster if he is going to buy a home in Fox Chapel!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: digs on July 14, 2005, 11:04:01 AM
Ironically O'Connor's repalcement at Westminster will also be an assistant track coach.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Big Daddy on August 02, 2005, 04:09:40 PM
Hey Joe Smith,

Do you ever check this board during the summer? What do you think about T.More & St. Vincent coming into the PAC?
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on August 08, 2005, 12:48:26 PM
Sorry I haven't been here in awhile.  Summer fever.  Anyway a lot of noise in the PAC this offseason.  The additions of T. More and St. Vincent will make the conference a little stronger.  Geographically speaking, the addition of T. More kind of stumped me.  It won't be much of a conference hyped game being nobody will travel 4 hours to see a 2 hour b-ball game unless its a huge game.  And I still don't know if anyone would make the trip.  So I grade this move a C-

As for St. Vincent I think this was a great move for all the PAC basketball wise.  St. Vincent's men is a national powerhouse in NAIA and will make some noice hopefully recuiting wise and attact some better athletes to the PAC.  If you remember a few years ago I posted saying that St. Vincent would be in the conference in a few years.  I predicted right.  Anyway I grade this move a B+  Personally I'd rather see a Geneva or Allegheny but beggers can't be chosers.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: bishopsfan on September 13, 2005, 11:16:00 AM
Does the PAC now have an automatic bid to the NCAA tourney witht he additions of Thomas More and St. Vincent?  If so who is the preseason favorite.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 14, 2005, 11:16:18 AM
There's a two-year waiting period for an automatic bid. And St. Vincent isn't in the league until 2007, I believe.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: big_daddy on September 20, 2005, 08:30:24 PM
Hey Joe,

I heard a rumor that Jimmy Deep isn't around anymore because of grades. Any truth to the rumor?????
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: big_daddy on September 26, 2005, 05:00:50 PM
Finally, Geneva is added to the PAC.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on October 11, 2005, 11:02:08 AM
  Yes it is true that Jim Deep is no longer on the team.  I'm not sure to why but I do know that he was gone sometime in the spring last year.  Brandon Duncan Is also gone from last years team due to personal reasons.  That's 2 starters or guys that saw signifigant time last year.  To fill the void Bethany got a solid transfer from West Liberty College that played the back-up point guard role last year.  He will definitely see some time this year.  Other then that I do not know much.  I will be in attendence for the beginning of practices this week for a better look at this years team.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on October 19, 2005, 10:55:57 AM
I know it's really early but any info. on teams so far?  Any preseason predictions?  Food freshman or transfers coming in that'll see signifigant time? 
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on October 19, 2005, 11:23:13 AM
QuoteFood freshman or transfers coming in that'll see signifigant time? 
   I heard that Grove City has added some fine produce to their lineup... ;D  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on October 21, 2005, 09:30:30 AM
It'll be the same for every player that plays at Grove City.  Good defenders but can't drop the ball in the ocean unless they play 5 feet from the basket.     
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: big_daddy on October 25, 2005, 09:03:31 PM
Joe,

The traditional slow to update websites (Bethany, Thiel & Waynesburg) are at it again......but from the looks of it, the rest of the play-off eligible league have their rosters posted for the 05-06 season. Could it be that the Titans look to go back to a more traditional tempo with 7 players listed at 6-4" or better to match the Bison's strength? Grove city lists 5 players 6-4" or better with W&J having only 3 players at that height or better. Thomas More, the new team on the block that I think is eligible this year has 8 players.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on October 26, 2005, 04:38:35 PM
big_daddy

     I know Bethany got a huge recruiting class and have a roster of about 30 players right now so they have to weed out everyone before a roster is put up.  Most of the recruits are solid guards without much height.  But I guess not many players want to go to Bethany that are over 6'4 until the twins are gone due to zip playing they'll recieve.  I know that they'll have a JV team there for the first time in awhile. 

In other news Bethany is picked to win the conference which is a no-brainer.  Looks like everyone else is just playing for 2nd.  HAHA  Well at least that quote is from a biases Bethany alumni.   
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: big_daddy on October 27, 2005, 06:39:55 PM
Guess we should just cancel the season and give the Bison "THE" bid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you have a jv team, I think that's an outstanding accomplishment for the team and program/school. One of my pet peeves with D3 and the PAC in particular has been the lack of jv teams to develope a true basketball program.

Pre-Season question for ya......What's 90 foot long and has 5 teeth? (Answer) Front row at a Bethany home game!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on October 28, 2005, 10:09:44 AM
hahaha!!!  Good one.  I'm sure everyone from Bethany has heard that one a million times.  Anyway, I was shocked that Bethany didn't get any votes, not even one, for the top 25.  I'm sure their schedule last year had something to do with it but a team that went 24-4 and returns basically everyone should get some kind of consideration. 

We should just give them "The" bid.  Hopefully someone else emerges as a contender in this conference.  Not much consistency from any schools in this conference.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: big_daddy on October 29, 2005, 09:40:05 AM
I was also surprised they got no love from the pre-season pollsters.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on October 30, 2005, 10:01:38 AM
  Any updates on scrimmages coming up or anything.  The season is less then a month away and not much noise.  Then again there really never is in this posting board.  I know Bethany returns everyone from last years PAC championship team with the exception of 2 players that quit in the off-season.  They lost both Brandon Duncan who averaged 10.2 and shot 46% from 3-point range and was fourth on the team scoring, and Jim Deep who averaged 11.0 and shot 45% from 3 (3rd in scoring).  With those 2 losses they still have a lot of depth with the addition of a kid that transfered from West Liberty and a solid recruit that I believe played in JC last year along with last years core.  As long as the twins stay healthy they shouldn't have much trouble with the conference.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on November 08, 2005, 10:50:57 AM
Here's a question for Pat Coleman if he ever visits this site being it so overwhelmed with posts.  I read in Bethany's preview that the Drahos twins were both picked d3hoops preseason honorable mention all-americans.  If this is true, how can you have 2 preseason all-americans, a team that went 24-4 (and i know their schedule was suspect), and earned a ncaa berth who returns all but 2 players from last years team and not give them any points for the top 25 or even the top 35?

I know that any team with 2 all-americans should get some consideration to be a top team in the nation.  In other news I've heard that Bethany played decent against d2 Glenville State, in fact they beat them.  Both twins scored over 20 and played tough. 
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: big_daddy on November 08, 2005, 07:15:21 PM
Hey Joe,

Do you have a new job and is your bosses name Rob? ;D//
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on November 09, 2005, 08:28:02 AM
  Nah, you're thinking of the kid named after a state.  I did play with him and was better hahaha.  By the way, they're both doing well.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on November 18, 2005, 08:47:57 PM
  No one will read this but i'll post it anyway.  Bethany crushes Adrian College tonight 83-54 lead by Matt and Mike Drahos who scored 25 and 17 respectively.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: big_daddy on November 20, 2005, 09:25:59 AM
Hey Joe,

How can you guys lose to a team that was 7-20 last year? No wonder you got no love in the preseason polls. At least the Titans lost to a team that was 22-9 last year. PAC might be weaker than ever.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on November 20, 2005, 11:28:08 AM
Quote from: joe smith on November 08, 2005, 10:50:57 AM
...how can you have 2 preseason all-americans, a team that went 24-4 (and i know their schedule was suspect), and earned a ncaa berth who returns all but 2 players from last years team and not give them any points for the top 25 or even the top 35? 
Joe, after Bethany's performance on Friday night I was beginning to wonder that same question myself.  But then came losing at Case.  That's not going to sit too favorably in the eyes of the voters.
Did Case have a big height advantage over you guys or something?  I saw the rebounding disparity in the write-up (59-22).  Its a wonder Bethany still had a chance to win.

BTW joe, I keep up with things in here as I'm a Westminster alum.  I'm a Wooster native which is why I follow the Scots so closely.  But I still like to keep an eye on the happenings of the  Titans and the rest of the PAC.

Quote from: big_daddy on November 20, 2005, 09:25:59 AM
PAC might be weaker than ever.
big daddy, you may be right.  W&J lost to Allegheny last night, which was somewhat of a surprise, given the fact that W&J had a lot coming back this season.  The Gators were picked to finish 7th in the NCAC in the preseason polls.   I was really surprised to see that result.  'Gheny also got by the Grove on Friday night making it a PAC sweep for the Gators on the weekend.   Also Kenyon got over on Thiel last night adding further truth to your statement of the PAC maybe being weaker than ever.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: pupfan on November 20, 2005, 03:26:52 PM
Quote from: big_daddy on November 20, 2005, 09:25:59 AM
Hey Joe,

How can you guys lose to a team that was 7-20 last year? No wonder you got no love in the preseason polls. At least the Titans lost to a team that was 22-9 last year. PAC might be weaker than ever.

Actually, Case finished 5-20 a year ago...
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: big_daddy on November 21, 2005, 08:24:23 AM
It's early and it's only after everyone has played 2 games but our league record is 3-11! Ouch!
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on November 21, 2005, 11:08:50 AM
  I agree the PAC is extremely weak this year with maybe the exception of Bethany and maybe Westminster.  Bethany's Drahos twins were both in foul trouble all game against Case and only played about 20 minutes apiece.  Case was also really big having almost their whole starting line-up over 6'2.  Bethany was up the whole game by 10 and blew it in the last few minutes due to bad foul shooting . I agree bad loss for the Bison.  They'll respond!!
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: big_daddy on November 23, 2005, 10:05:57 AM
It's a good thing Thomas More didn't play last night to make it a complete reverse sweep for the PAC. Lost all 6 games sinking the conference mark to 3-17 overall.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on November 23, 2005, 02:19:37 PM
big daddy

I wouldnt put it past this league this year to say that only 2 teams might be over .500 when it's all said and done.  Agreed?
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: big_daddy on November 23, 2005, 04:08:11 PM
Which 2 teams are you wanting me to agree to??????
Ha Ha Ha

I'm down on our league this year and believe it might get worse. However, I give the Titans some props and say at least they're playing some good competition. They had 2 teams from the preseason list at their opening tourney, so it's not like their losing to the sister's of the poor teams. We have alot of away games against teams that have started off playing well coming up including Wooster before the PAC starts. Maybe it will help for league competition. We'll see.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on November 27, 2005, 11:51:25 AM
   Bethany wins last night beating Keystone St. 103-89 to even their record to 2-2.  They will play CMU today for the championship game of the CMU tourny.  Last time Bethany faced Nate Maurer he played for Grove City and lit them up for 39 and 41.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on November 29, 2005, 01:46:19 PM
PAC teams to this day are a combined 4-21 with 4 teams yet to get a win this season yet (Grove City, Thiel, Thomas More, and W&J).  Bethany has half of the conference wins and are 2-3.  The rest of the conference w/o Bethany are 2-18.  That's staggering!!!  I've never seen such a bad start for this conference in the 7 years I've followed it.  The worst thing is that  the competition has been mediocre with the exception of a few teams.  Disappointing 1st couple weeks. 
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on November 29, 2005, 02:21:36 PM
Hey joe,

At least you can take comfort in the fact that Nate Maurer didn't go off on the Bison in their loss to CMU.   I saw the box score and he didn't even get to double figures (9 points).  That's something positive to build on right? ;)
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on November 29, 2005, 08:21:55 PM
I agree with you but how bout this win for the Bison.  Bethany beats d2 Wheeling Jesuit 71-70 tonight to improve to 3-3.  Wheeling Jesuit won their conference last year and made it to the d2 ncaa tourny.  What a rollar coaster ride for this team early in the year.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on November 30, 2005, 11:10:15 AM
Now that is definately a confidence builder.  I think roller coaster ride is putting it mildly joe!  Nice win for Bethany though.  Maybe now the Bison can get on a bit of a roll heading into conference play.  At least until they meet up with Westminster! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on November 30, 2005, 12:41:04 PM
Unfortunately for Westminster they have nobody that can stop the twins and Bethany has a plenty amount of guards that can shoot and play the uptempo style that Westminster plays.  I wouldnt be surprised if both twins go for 40 apiece when they play (all lay-ups).
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on December 01, 2005, 05:15:35 AM
  Can Washington & Jefferson Pittsnoggle the WVU Mountaineers?
  WVU let the Bonnies go on a 21-0 run even though WV won 66-61. Does W&J have any good rebounders that can crash the boards? Will the money from this game help W&J for years to come?
   My pick WVU 81,W&J 65.

   WVU is not as tough iniside as the team that took the NCAA's by storm last year but they have enough left to handle the Presidents.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on December 01, 2005, 02:28:27 PM
I'd be surprised if W&J doesn't lose by 50.  81-65??  Come on.  Are you kiddin me.  Has W&J even beat a d3 team let alone only lose by 16 to a d1.  My prediction is 108-60 WVU of course. 
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on December 01, 2005, 07:17:47 PM
W&J can't even beat Kenyon and they are going to come within 15 of WVU?  I'm with joe, W&J will be lucky to keep it under 50.  And that's if WVU plays their JV's in the 2nd half.  One thing W&J can take consolation in, at least they'll get their name on the Bottom Line on ESPN! :D
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on December 01, 2005, 09:18:57 PM
I'm glad someone has some sense in here.  When I played at Bethany we played Army 2 years and Colgate once.  2 of those 3 years we were tournament teams and got stomped by 25-30 in all three of those games.  Doesn't matter how big WVU is inside because their guards will be bigger than W&J's fowards.  D1 is so much bigger and faster then the d3 game.  It was kind of cool to get your score on the ticker though.  I almost feel bad to see the score of this game afterwards.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on December 01, 2005, 10:00:42 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on December 01, 2005, 07:17:47 PM
One thing W&J can take consolation in, at least they'll get their name on the Bottom Line on ESPN! :D

Yeah, but they might not recognize it.  It'll probably be reduced to something like "WshJf."  :)
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on December 02, 2005, 08:38:30 PM
//westvirginia.scout.com/2/473934.html
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on December 02, 2005, 08:40:03 PM
westvirginia.scout.com/2/473934.html//

Not sure why I can't install the link but that is the address for the preview.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on December 03, 2005, 04:48:17 PM
WVU 48 W&J 25     Half....

They keep it under 50, I'll be impressed.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on December 03, 2005, 07:00:53 PM
Final in Morgantown

WVU 83 W&J 33

W&J only scored 8 points the 2nd half.  A 50 point loss like we all figured.  What I don't understand is why would either of these schools schedule a game to play one another.  Waste of a game if you ask me!!!
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on December 04, 2005, 09:02:58 AM
All of you were right and I was wrong. 83-33 WVU.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on December 04, 2005, 07:39:06 PM
Could've been a lot worse.  WVU called the dogs off early in the 2nd half.  I think the towel boy and water boy got some PT from WVU.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on December 07, 2005, 09:04:03 PM
Bethany crushes Pitt-Greensburg tonight 88-68 in a game where they led around 30 most of the game.  They improve to 5-3.  They have a tough game this weekend against Lake Erie.  We'll see if this teams back on track after this weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: bishopsfan on December 09, 2005, 01:07:15 PM
I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the new look President's Athletic Conference. Who is the early season favorite?  How is Thomas More stacking up against the other teams?  Thomas More seems to be, from an outside perspective, a strange pick to join the conference given their geographical location.  We are now roughly a 1/4 of the way through the season and I just wanted to hear some perspective.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on December 09, 2005, 08:09:17 PM
   As of today I believe Thomas More is 0-7 so it's apparent they are struggling.  The upside of that is that the majority of the PrAC teams are stinking it up too, w/ the exception of Bethany (5-3) and Waynesburg (5-2), who really hasn't played anyone good.  Grove City is 2-4, Wesminster 1-5, Thiel, 2-4, and W&J is 0-5. 
  As of early season favorite, Bethany is probably the best the conference has w/ W&J supposed to challenge along w/ Westminster.  Waynesburg looks decent early and Grove City just lost to NAIA Geneva by 2.  Other then that, it's a down year for the conference.
  Thomas More joining the conference stumped me but they'll have an AQ in another year so I guess most teams won't mind the one long trip a year.  The PrAC also added Geneva and St. Vincent who are in a 4-year transitional phase I believe.  Once those two schools are allowed to compete the conference should be back on track again.  Hope that was insightful for you.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: big_daddy on December 22, 2005, 11:36:23 AM
Hey Joe,

I heard thru the grapevine that a starting guard from St. Vincent has transferred over to the Titans. Maybe you'll have to put the corks back in the champagne.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on December 23, 2005, 11:27:05 AM
  They will need more than a talented guard to beat Bethany this year.  Bethany has faced equal competition compared to St. Vincent this year and has done very well so one more d2 guard won't scare them.(didn't Paigley transer from a d2 school)  It'll be nice to see someone challenge them this year although.  I'm sure everyone is diappointed with those 2 wins they're sporting this year so far.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on January 11, 2006, 04:47:06 PM
Pat Coleman,

I noticed that the Milestones page says Mark DeMonaco hit 1,000 points on November 18th, and 1,500 on Dec. 18th.  Westminster's stats list DeMonaco with only 267 points this season.  I'm guessing one of those two entires is an error.  Either that or Westminster has found yet another way to score points.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 11, 2006, 08:06:12 PM
Thanks. I wonder if the difference is the year DeMonaco spent at LaRoche.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: joe smith on January 12, 2006, 01:41:55 PM
  I honestly don't think anyone will challange Bethany for the crown this year.  Bethany so far has beaten Thomas More who hasn't won a game yet at their place (which is a hell of a drive and will probably be their hardest away game) and Waynesburg, where the score looks a lot better then it actually was.  I believe Bethany was up 30 when they pulled all the starters.  Waynesburg was the only other team that is at .500.  I think the only team that has a ounce of a shot is W&J.  I can't believe I said that!!!  They play each other this Saturday at Bethany.  I was looking for an everage of 20-point wins for the conference.  So far I believe it's only at 8.  Guess I'm asking for too much.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on February 09, 2006, 07:02:03 PM
Congratulations to the following President's AC student-athletes who were selected today by CoSIDA, the College Sports Information Directors of America, to the Academic All-District Teams for District 3, College Division. 

First team:
Matt Drahos, Bethany (3.51, Biology)
Mike Drahos, Bethany (3.65, Psychology)

Second Team:
Scott Mezyk, Bethany (3.71, Elementary Education)
Chuck Cotherman, Grove City (3.88, English/Secondary Education)

Third Team:
Mark DeMonaco, Westminster (3.21, Accounting) (regardless of how many points he has this year ;))

By being named to the first team, the Drahos brothers are automatically nominees for Academic All-American.

Congratulations to these outstanding student-athletes!

Men's Academic All-District Teams (http://www.cosida.com/formpdfs/mb06acad.pdf)
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on February 10, 2006, 08:17:14 PM
Updated (thru games of Thursday 2/9) QoWIs for GL teams (source: Pat Coleman, QoWI Board, Multi-Region Topics (http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=2910.105)):

1 (7 overall) Carnegie Mellon    11.000    13-2 (regional record)
2 (13) Wittenberg    10.765    15-2
3 (18) Wooster    10.556    17-1
4 (21) Hope    10.500    12-2
5 (23) Baldwin-Wallace    10.400    18-2
6 (29) Calvin    10.111    8-1
7 (45) Albion    9.727    9-2
8 (48) Lake Erie    9.706    14-3
9 (74) Wilmington    9.273    16-6
10 (75) Bethany    9.250    16-4
11 (78) Muskingum    9.158    13-6
12 (92) Ohio Northern    9.000    12-5
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 22, 2006, 11:03:23 PM
Congratulations to Bethany's Matt and Mike Drahos on making the "Faces in the Crowd", page 32 of the February 27th issue.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on February 25, 2006, 11:35:44 PM
Here's how I see the final regional rankings, assuming I have recalculated the QoWI correctly:

1. Wittenberg (20-3, QoWI 10.652)
2. Hope (17-2, 10.211)
3. Baldwin-Wallace (22-4, 10.077)
4. Wooster (21-3, 10.042)
5. Carnegie Mellon (15-4, 10.474)
6. Calvin (13-2, 9.750)
---------------------------
7. Lake Erie (18-4, 9.682)
8. Bethany (20-4, 9.417)
9. Ohio Northern (17-6, 9.130)
10. Albion (12-4, 9.125)


Pool C candidates shown in boldface; Pool B candidate shown in italics.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: big_daddy on March 15, 2006, 09:51:27 AM
Congrats to the Drahos kids for being named to the All-Region team but explain how Matt Drahos (POY in the PAC this year) gets 3rd team and his brother Mike made the 2nd team?
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 16, 2006, 06:00:52 PM
Quote from: big_daddy on March 15, 2006, 09:51:27 AM
Congrats to the Drahos kids for being named to the All-Region team but explain how Matt Drahos (POY in the PAC this year) gets 3rd team and his brother Mike made the 2nd team?

Probably because the SID's outside the Pres AC had a different opinion? :)
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: big_daddy on March 16, 2006, 08:43:06 PM
Ralph,

If by your reply, you where posting a smart-azz reply, then so be it. But................

I contend the SID's didn't know the difference between the two and got them mixed up. Matt clearly had the better season between the two THIS YEAR with numerous Player of the Week and the POY awards in the PAC.

In previous years the opposite was true. I think most voters didn't know the difference between #13 & #31, they where just picking names off a piece of paper.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 18, 2006, 11:53:20 AM
The notes on each clearly say which is the PAC player of the year and which isn't.  :-\
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: bishopsfan on April 27, 2006, 03:24:57 PM
Does anyone know who is going to be hired for the head coaching job at Washington and Jefferson? 
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: rabriggs on May 22, 2006, 03:22:14 PM
Glenn Gutierrez is W&J's new men's basketball coach:

http://www.washjeff.edu/content.aspx?section=2510&menu_id=571&crumb=572&id=759
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 22, 2006, 04:37:41 PM
Not that new. :)

http://www.d3hoops.com/notables.php?date=2006-04-28
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: gccfan on December 28, 2006, 06:45:53 PM
Any news about the PAC this year?  It doesn't seem like anyone is posting.  I played at GCC, but am now down in Texas so I don't get to see any games.  Who are the best players in the league this year with the Drahos' graduating?
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: diehardfan on March 01, 2007, 07:24:42 PM
Just thought I'd try... ;D

Hey guys, we're collecting previews for each team in the tourney on one of the multiregional boards. If I get them by Friday I may even be able to stick them in one document for people to peruse. A fun little tourney resource of sorts. Would someone here be willing to do one for Westminster? Thanks!

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=5147.0
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on March 01, 2007, 08:44:31 PM
Oops...too late.  :(

Westminster led pretty much the whole game, but comes up a bit short in the end, 87-83, at JCU.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Toph on March 02, 2007, 08:42:06 AM
Congrats to Westminster on a great run.  You gave us a scare.   :o
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: RO_24 on November 12, 2007, 09:24:14 AM
I was wondering if anyone on here knows anything about Westminster.  I know they made a run last year, but was wondering what they have retunring this year and how they are expected to finish in the PAC.

Thanks
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on November 23, 2008, 01:29:18 AM
Congratulations to Washington & Jefferson on winning the Al Van Wie Rotary Classic at Wooster.  The Presidents knocked off two ranked teams, first #21 Wooster 72-70 on their home court, then #14 Randolph-Macon 71-64, a game in which the Presidents never trailed.  It was a very impressive weekend, and W&J fans should be quite proud of their team.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 22, 2009, 12:58:37 AM
Bethany shot makes our new Buzzer Beaters page:
http://www.d3hoops.com/buzzer-beaters/
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2011, 03:18:50 PM
First Regional Rankings: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2011/02/02/ncaas-mens-regional-rankings/
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: sac on August 23, 2012, 11:59:16 AM
added Thiel and Thomas More

Schedule links:

Bethany:  http://www.bethanywv.edu/athletics/varsity/mens-basketball/schedule/
Geneva:  http://www.geneva.edu/object/mbball_schedule
Grove City:  http://www2.gcc.edu/sports/M-Basketball/mhoopsked1213.htm
St. Vincent:  http://athletics.stvincent.edu/schedule.aspx?path=mbball
Thiel:  http://www.thielathletics.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball
Thomas More:  http://www.tmcsaints.com/sports/mbkb/2012-13/schedule
Washington and Jefferson:  http://www.washjeff.edu/athletics/mens-sports/basketball/scheduleresults
Waynesburg:  http://www.waynesburgsports.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball&
Westminster:  http://www.westminster.edu/athletics/sports/mens_basketball/mball_schedule.cfm
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: DMJSports on February 27, 2013, 05:12:57 AM
No activity on this board.... oh well, for any Presidents' Athletic Conference coach or fan who is interested:

Here is an interesting look at how individuals impact a team's performance.  The following analysis is not based on individual stats, but compares team performance with individual players in and out of the lineup.  This is an objective analysis using actual data from every game played by Presidents' Athletic Conference teams this season.  Based on this comprehensive analysis, the following players are making the most positive impact on their respective team:

Bethany: LESLIE ADDY in the lineup correlates to decreasing Bethany scoring rate by 0.3ppg and decreasing opponents scoring rate by 8.0ppg - a net gain of 7.7ppg compared to when ADDY is on the bench.  REECE MABERY (7.6ppg) also makes a strong positive impact.

Grove City: MITCH MARMELSTEIN in the lineup correlates to increasing Grove City scoring rate by 8.3ppg and increasing opponents scoring rate by 0.2ppg - a net gain of 8.1ppg compared to when MARMELSTEIN is out of the lineup.

St. Vincent: SEAN KETT on the court correlates to increasing St. Vincent scoring rate by 6.9ppg and reducing opponents scoring rate by 5.9ppg - a net gain of 12.8ppg compared to when KETT is off the floor.  ISAAC TURNER (10.3ppg) and DILLON STITH (7.6ppg) also make a strong positive impact.

Thomas More: D'CARLO HAYES in the lineup correlates to increasing Thomas More scoring rate by 9.6ppg and increasing opponents scoring rate by 1.6ppg - a net gain of 8.0ppg compared to when HAYES is on the bench.  BRANDON HOUSLEY (7.4ppg) also makes a strong positive impact.

Washington and Jefferson: NATE BELLHY game presence correlates to improving Washington and Jefferson scoring rate by 13.8ppg and improving opponents scoring rate by 3.9ppg - a net gain of 9.9ppg compared to when BELLHY is off the floor.  ZACH BELLHY (9.9ppg) also makes a strong positive impact.


On the lighter side, focusing on secondary goals (team stats other than the primary objective - outscoring opponents).  Following are players making the most positive impact in these areas:

Team scoring: having NATE BELLHY on the floor correlates to Washington and Jefferson increasing its scoring rate by 13.8 ppg compared to when BELLHY is on the bench.

Opponent scoring: having LESLIE ADDY on the floor correlates to Bethany decreasing opposition scoring rate by 8.0 ppg compared to when ADDY is on the bench.

Team field goal percentage: having NATE BELLHY on the floor correlates to Washington and Jefferson increasing its field goal percentage rate by 7.1 percentage points compared to when BELLHY is on the bench.

Opponent field goal percentage: having ELIOT PIPES on the floor correlates to Thomas More decreasing opposition field goal percentage rate by 7.6 percentage points compared to when PIPES is on the bench.

Team made field goals: having NATE BELLHY on the floor correlates to Washington and Jefferson increasing its made field goals rate by 5.1 per game compared to when BELLHY is on the bench.

Opponent made field goals: having ELIOT PIPES on the floor correlates to Thomas More decreasing opposition made field goals rate by 4.5 per game compared to when PIPES is on the bench.

Team offensive rebounds: having CHRIS RICHARD on the floor correlates to Thomas More increasing its offensive rebounds rate by 3.1 per game compared to when RICHARD is on the bench.  LESLIE ADDY-Bethany (2.8) also makes a strong positive impact.

Opponent offensive rebounds: having MIKE RESNIK on the floor correlates to Washington and Jefferson decreasing opposition offensive rebounds rate by 4.2 per game compared to when RESNIK is on the bench.

Team turnovers: having ZACH BELLHY on the floor correlates to Washington and Jefferson decreasing its turnovers rate by 4.1 per game compared to when BELLHY is on the bench.

Opponent turnovers: having CHRIS RICHARD on the floor correlates to Thomas More increasing opposition turnovers rate by 2.8 per game compared to when RICHARD is on the bench.

Team steals: having CHRIS RICHARD on the floor correlates to Thomas More increasing its steals rate by 3.6 per game compared to when RICHARD is on the bench.

Team assists: having ZACH BELLHY on the floor correlates to Washington and Jefferson increasing its assists rate by 3.7 per game compared to when BELLHY is on the bench.

Team defensive rebounds: having MIKE RESNIK on the floor correlates to Washington and Jefferson increasing its defensive rebounds rate by 4.2 per game compared to when RESNIK is on the bench.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: sac on September 06, 2013, 06:06:50 PM
9/6 added Bethany
Schedule links:

Bethany:   http://www.bethanywv.edu/athletics/varsity/mens-basketball/sch/
Geneva:   https://www.geneva.edu/object/mbball_schedule
Grove City:  http://www2.gcc.edu/sports/M-Basketball/mhoopsked1314.htm
St. Vincent: 
Thiel:   http://www.thielathletics.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball
Thomas More:  http://www.tmcsaints.com/sports/mbkb/2013-14/schedule
Washington and Jefferson:  http://www.washjeff.edu/athletics/mens-sports/basketball/scheduleresults
Waynesburg:  http://waynesburgsports.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball&
Westminster:  http://www.westminster.edu/athletics/sports/mens_basketball/mball_schedule.cfm
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on June 22, 2015, 03:02:23 PM
Salisbury has hired Andy Sachs from Bethany as their new head coach... http://www.suseagulls.com/sports/mbkb/2015-16/releases/20150622vp4qpx (http://www.suseagulls.com/sports/mbkb/2015-16/releases/20150622vp4qpx)
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Fifth and Putnam on May 31, 2017, 02:09:39 PM
Thomas More to leave the PAC after the 2017-2018 season:

http://pacathletics.org/news/2017/5/31/general-thomas-more-to-withdraw-from-pac.aspx
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Fifth and Putnam on July 06, 2017, 06:40:19 PM
Thomas More to take on Kentucky at Rupp Arena October 27.

http://www.tmcsaints.com/sports/mbkb/2017-18/releases/20170706ihixv3
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on July 07, 2017, 02:56:54 PM
Thomas More joining the SEC? :)
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 17, 2018, 03:24:06 PM
Not quite.
http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2018/04/thomas-more-leaving-ncaa
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Fifth and Putnam on April 19, 2018, 03:56:43 PM
Former Mount St. Joseph assistant Justin Ray has been named the new head coach at Thomas More.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: hopefan on November 10, 2018, 11:05:44 AM
Growing up in Pittsburgh, I'm always interested in the Western PA Pac Conference....

The Preseason Poll was released yesterday... St. Vincent was No.1

It did my heart good to see that 2,3,4 went to Westminster, Geneva, Grove City... the 3 schools that I consider the "bread and butter" schools of the PAC and small college ball in Western Pa.   A lot of basketball history at those 3 schools.... Each of them has fallen on rough times on the court in recent years, good to see them back in contention.
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 13, 2019, 03:25:35 PM
The second week Regional Rankings have been released: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/men-regional-rankings-second
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 20, 2019, 03:40:41 PM
The third public NCAA Division III regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/men-regional-rankings-third
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on July 13, 2019, 08:29:59 PM
https://hoopdirt.com/diii-dirt-waynesburg-set-to-hire-current-diii-head-coach/
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on July 20, 2019, 12:04:38 PM
https://waynesburgsports.com/news/2019/7/19/fusina-named-mens-basketball-coach.aspx?path=mbball
WOW
Too bad Coach K is still working at Duke. :P
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 12, 2020, 03:16:52 PM
First Regional Rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/men-regional-rankings-first
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 13, 2020, 05:00:58 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 19, 2020, 01:15:25 PM
Week 2's Regional Rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/men-regional-rankings-second
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 25, 2020, 02:39:37 PM
The Week 3 men's regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/men-regional-rankings-third
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on January 03, 2022, 01:21:16 PM
Westminster has played 7 D3 games. Their results?

Won by 2
Won by 1
Lost by 5
Lost by 2
Won by 2
Lost by 1
Won by 5 on OT
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: hopefan on January 04, 2022, 08:22:50 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on January 03, 2022, 01:21:16 PM
Westminster has played 7 D3 games. Their results?

Won by 2
Won by 1
Lost by 5
Lost by 2
Won by 2
Lost by 1
Won by 5 on OT

They are certainly battle tested as the conference season goes into full swing.....  Great scheduling by someone
Title: Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 15, 2022, 03:52:39 PM
Week 2 Regional Rankings - which are ranked now: https://d3hoops.com/notables/2022/02/men-regional-rankings-first