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Title: MBB: Great Northeast Athletic Conference
Post by: Hoops Fan on December 17, 2004, 12:05:52 pm
I don't know any more about Tucker, or where he went.

I did get confirmation on the basketball playoff structure.

It's a normal 8 team tourney, 1-8, 2-7, 3-6 ,4-5, etc
Title: GNAC
Post by: hoops573 on December 28, 2004, 07:46:46 pm
So anyone got any opinions on what's going to happen second semester?  Surprise teams, etc, etc.?
Title: GNAC
Post by: Coach Kurt on January 03, 2005, 02:44:57 pm
I have you rsurprise team, baby!  Lets go riv.  Miller is coming back and will surprise the conference with a new found jump shot.  He is healthy and should be really fired up due to the injury and surgery that kept him out for the whole first semester.  It's Miller Time for sure!
Title: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on January 06, 2005, 02:05:06 pm
I don't think there's going to be a whole lot of surprises in the second half. The GNAC is wide open this year so there's not many teams left to provide shock value. Norwich, JW, Emerson, WNEC, Emmanuel, Suffolk, and maybe SVC should battle hard all semester for the 1-7 slots and should get into the tournament. Most teams in the GNAC either won important non-conference games or were very close to beating some of the top teams in New England.  

The upsets might come from the 7 or 8 seeds- two of the three remaining teams will qualify out of  DWC, Riv, and Albertus but historically the 7 and 8 seeds have been quickly dispatched in the tourney and I don't think any of these teams have a chance to upset the 1 or 2 seeds, but that's why they call them upsets!

Can someone talk about SVC? How the heck are they 0-9?  They've had close games with Williams and Keene but also lost to RPI, Curry, and Cazenovia. No rhyme or reason to that...

They might get rolling in the second half...hard to believe they've fallen so far so fast after being at the top for the last two seasons. I know they have a new coach and lost some players from last year- maybe someone from SVC can give more info.

It should be an entertaining season with a lot of close games- it's been that way so far and I don't see much changing.
Title: GNAC
Post by: Anne A on January 11, 2005, 12:49:13 am
Not so sure what is going on up in Bennington. I havent been able to get to a game yet. Looking at the roster it seems to be a fairly young team with a lot of new faces and there are some guys from last years team who are still there. They have a new coach, so I think this is just going to be a rebuilding year for them. I would love to see them win a few, and get some momentum going. Seems like they have some close ones and then it just gets away...
Title: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on January 11, 2005, 08:52:48 am
OK, thanks Anne...I look forward to hearing more from you once you can see them live. I'll be at Norwich-Emerson tonight @ Pine Manor, 7PM.

Should be a good one. It'd be a big roadie for the Cadets and the Lions need to home serve.  

The Cadets already played recently, dropping a tough 69-66 game at J & W. This is the Lions 1st game of the semester.

The league really needs to start everyone off at the same time for a sense of fair play. It's not right that teams get an advantage of getting games under theie belt while others wait.
Title: GNAC
Post by: Titan3 on January 16, 2005, 08:33:40 pm
new as a GNAC fan this year.  Have been following the conference for a year or so, and agree that it's a toss-up for an outright powerhouse this season.  Last year J&W and So. Vt. were 1-2 but have lost some key players/coaches.  Look to the Cadets of Norwich possibly, waiting in the wings to make a move.  Are 4-1 now with a tough loss to J&W.  J&W got hot second half with 8 out of 9 3's and won by 3.  Some good incoming freshmen, with some veterans could have Norwich as the team to beat!
Title: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on January 17, 2005, 04:36:10 pm
Emerson 57, WNEC 46 @ WNEC...any more details on this one?

Sounds like the Lions played some great D.
Title: GNAC
Post by: hoops573 on January 25, 2005, 10:57:38 pm
Rivier over #1 Johnson & Whales
Title: GNAC
Post by: hoops573 on January 27, 2005, 11:03:41 pm
Rivier Smacks Southern Vermont
Title: GNAC
Post by: Titan3 on January 30, 2005, 07:21:47 pm
Is there a reason there is material on this GNAC site that dates back to November?  It would seem to delete itself after 2-3 months. Or can I delete some of it off myself.  It would be nice to see some people comment about the current standings of their school.  The conference still has students and graduates that follow hoops. What else is there to follow in the winter?  
Title: GNAC
Post by: GNAC fan1 on January 31, 2005, 03:56:31 pm
Emmanuel vs. Emerson.... Who will win? Does anybody know if these teams are good?
Title: GNAC
Post by: Hoops Fan on January 31, 2005, 04:08:10 pm
Emerson is playing very well this year.  I am suprised to see them at the place they are after losing Robert Hennigan, probably the best ballplayer the GNAC will ever see.  It takes a lot for a team to make up for a graduation like that and they have done very well.  Norwich seems to be on their level with Emmanuel and a few others a couple steps back.
Title: GNAC
Post by: GNAC fan1 on January 31, 2005, 04:21:58 pm
I had a chance to see Emmanuel play and they do not seem to be the power house as predicted in the beginning of the season. They have very very very soft post players that can be manhandled and are in need of a ponit guard. No problem for Emerson tonight! Take my word!
Title: GNAC
Post by: hoopfan#1 on January 31, 2005, 04:32:59 pm
I agree, Emmanuel is horrible, Emerson will blow them out 2night.  Their point guard is average and their post players foul alot.  I do not even see emmanuel making the playoffs.  I heard they have a new player, but he shouldn't make a difference.
Title: GNAC
Post by: serious face on January 31, 2005, 11:01:22 pm
SO what about those Emmanuel Saints..... ! lol.
Title: GNAC
Post by: me111 on January 31, 2005, 11:35:00 pm
hey genius... u posted from the same IP address everytime... its obvious u are the same person using different names


and in Emmanuels defense, they uh, beat Emerson and it wasnt even close, at all...
Title: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 01, 2005, 08:27:29 am
How can anyone say Emmanuel is horrible?  Yeah, they beat Emerson but even if they lost, it wouldn't mean they're horrible, when exacly the opposite is true.

I think the Saints have gotten a lot better and have shown improvement evey year since they've fielded a team.  

Coaches Jamahl Jackson and Joe Walsh know what they're doing and they have good players. This is a team that'll be in the GNAC tourney mix.
Title: GNAC
Post by: Hoops Fan on February 01, 2005, 09:50:50 am
That whole exchange was just odd.  I'm not associating with this board anymore.
Title: GNAC
Post by: Titan3 on February 01, 2005, 09:55:55 pm
Hoops Fan, I like your input. You are one of the reason's I got on board. You have good insight to the conference and get people talking.  Don't let one or two sway your input.
Title: GNAC
Post by: Titan3 on February 03, 2005, 07:34:08 pm
Emereson plays Norwich this Sat.. Big game !!  Cheatham for Norwich, got GNAC Honor Roll this week for his play in the past 3 Cadet victories.  He's making a big difference on boards and scoring.  Hensley is taking care of the ball and can dish well,and has range on the 3's.  Team has some good depth on the bench that could help out at any time.  
Title: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 04, 2005, 01:18:18 pm
I see my triple talk is throwing some people off...no need to diss the Saints was all I was trying to say. They're going to be a pesky 3-4 seed in the tourney.

1st place and the right to host the tournament semis/finals is on the line tomorrow @ Norwich. Cadets topped the Lions in a close on in Boston, so the Cadets will put the Lions two games back of the top with a win tomorrow.

Lions held the Rams to 43 last night in a really tight game....Emerson 54- Suffolk 43. It was tied at 38 with about 6 minutes to play when Emerson went on a 10-0 run keyed by David Miller's defense.

Should be a good one as usual...a lot of close games again this season.
Title: GNAC
Post by: Old School on February 15, 2005, 03:20:10 am
D3hoops Fan's (Poster's) Top 25 Poll next year?
 
Attn:
 
I am currently thinking about running a fan's poll for the Top 25 starting next season (may not have a poll until the new year, to avoid previous year's bias, among other things).  I am looking for posters who are knowledgeable not only about their teams, but about their conference and even other conferences, and having a familiarity about other regions as well.  Obviously, there will be some bias towards the teams you know, but it is very important to become familiar with other teams from other regions of the nation.  Though this is a Top 25 poll for fun, it is important to take it seriously and not just vote your team #1 just for the sake of it.  I also ask that you not miss sending in your ballots any week.  It's not a pick em league where you simply go 0-25 for the week!  Ballots would be submitted by Sunday night/early Monday morning, prior to the official D3Hoops poll coming out.  This poll would be strictly independent of the official poll.  
 
If you are interested, feel you qualify, and are willing to take this seriously, to a point, please email me to show your interest.  Include in the subject line: Poster's Poll, or something like that.  Also include your handle, since I most likely won't know your handle from your real name (email address), the conference/team and region you would "represent".  I'd like to get at least one poster from each region.  
 
Thanks.
Title: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 19, 2005, 06:40:22 pm
how has nobody posted anything in weeks?  

Is anyone out there????

Emerson beat WNEC today in a classic- 66-64 in OT to get the #2 seed in the GNAC tourney.

Let's get some tourney chatter going!
Title: GNAC
Post by: Titan3 on February 20, 2005, 09:14:15 am
Congratulations to the Cadets of Norwich University for their fine regular season record.  All season they showed great team unity and had the depth in players that no one man had to carry the team.  Four years ago their record was 6 and 18 and did not qualify for the Conference tourney, and this season they were 18 and 6 and got the #1 seed.  This shows a remarkable turnaround in the program and a tribute to coaches Booth and Seward.  GOOD LUCK in the upcoming Conference tourney.
Title: GNAC
Post by: UTSchwa on February 20, 2005, 09:43:12 am
So I haven't really been paying attention to the GNAC in weeks, but what happened this year?  DWC came out of no where, and from what I understand were in the hunt for their first playoff appearance in like 6 years.  I saw them get pounded by Emmanuel yesterday.  Emmanuel did not seem too impressive.  I mean they did beat DWC 90-70, but other than their starters, their bench did not seem very deep.  

What does the playoff schedule look like?  I guess there are a couple games left to be decided, or atleast one very impotrant one.  From what I understand, if SVC loses again today, than DWC gets into the tournament I guess as the 8th seed.  This is a huge step in the right direction for DWC, and I'm proud to see them do so well.  If Coach Davis can keep everyone together, they could become a top team in the years to come.  All that experience the freshman got this year will only help the program.
Title: GNAC
Post by: mustang23 on February 21, 2005, 11:38:06 pm
I lik Emerson they have alot of young freshman including Dawkins and Tovar (although it wrongly states hes a junior) i think they could surprise norwich we'll see.....
Title: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 22, 2005, 09:09:13 am
Tonight is the quarterfinals. 1-8, 2-7, 3-6 and 4-5 will play this evening.  

#8 D-Web @ #1 Norwich
#7 Suffolk @ #2 Emerson
#6 Rivier @ #3 Emmanuel
#5 J & W @ #4 Western New England

Should be a lot of good action tonight. JW- WNEC went to OT last week and Riv has been surprising as of late. We'll see what tonight has in store for the GNAC.
Title: GNAC
Post by: hoops573 on February 22, 2005, 12:16:23 pm
UTScwha, you do a terrible job of trying to cover up that you play for DW or are affiliated with them in some way...and that you're not really Kenny Oulette...you talk about him and DW like they're the Cleveland Cavaliers who suddenly got good when Kenny Oulette, oops I mean Lebron James came onto the team.  The only reason why DW is in the playoffs is because the whole league was not as competitive this year...I will give credit where it's due though, J.J. Oliver is a good player as well as a couple other decent freshmen...but as for years to come, the whole team is gonna be transfering next year, which shows that NO...Chad Davis cannot keep the team together!...and DW will continue to rival for the leagues bottom spot.
Title: GNAC
Post by: Hoops Fan on February 22, 2005, 12:19:19 pm
He's not Kenny Oulette, but I wouldn't be surprised if he went to high school with him.
Title: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 24, 2005, 10:05:29 am
So let's hear it about tonight...it's semifinal Thursday.

#5 Johnson and Wales @ #1 Norwich  

These teams split during the regular season, each winning at home. Wales won by 3 (69-66) in Providence and the Cadets won by 21 (81-60) in Northfield.  

Possible keys? As of 2/13, Wales was the #1 team in the GNAC %-wise at the FT line, Norwich was 9th. Both teams don't get to the stripe that often, but if the refs call it tight, Wales might pick up a few points from the line. The other major factor is rebounding. Norwich holds a major edge here, as they have out-rebounded their opponents by 12 a game, while J & W has been out-rebounded by nearly 10 per contest.  

Key to the game- Jay-dubs big men need to keep the rebound numbers close and get to the line. Norwich needs to maximize second shots.  

Norwich wins and stays home for the final. Cats win and they roll to Boston to play one of the "E" schools from the other side of the bracket.

*************************************************

#3 Emmanuel @ #2 Emerson

Not much needs to be said here. It'll be a good one until the end. These teams split (each winning at home) and know what to expect from each other. The last game @ PMC was a game of runs, and Emerson got the last one to win the game.  

That's enough of that. Tip-off is 7PM.
Title: GNAC
Post by: d-mac on February 27, 2005, 05:15:31 pm
It is time to find out who is in... and who is out.
Whose bubble has been burst and who is wearing Cinderella's glass slippers.
It's Selection Sunday... and tonight there will be a special "Hoopsville" as the 2005 NCAA Men's and Women's Basketball Brackets are announced... LIVE on our air!
The Road to Salem and Virginia Beach officially starts tonight!


It plans to be a huge night... as 50 womens and 48 mens teams are officially invited to the dance and a chance at a national title.

Some teams already know they are going (thanks to winning their conferences) and some think they are going, but there are always surprises.

So tonight, we will break it all down. Starting at 8:30 PM EST, we will take a look at who is definitely in, who might make it, who will be disappointed, and what match-ups you might want to look forward to seeing later in the week.

Then at 10:00 PM EST... we will broadcast LIVE the Women's Selection Show so you can find out when we do... the 50 teams on the Road to Virginia Beach.

That will be followed by the Men's Selection Show at 10:30 PM EST - when 48 teams find out what their Road to Salem will be like.

After those selections... we will go over it with a fine-tooth comb and find out who we think are the surprises!

And throughout the show, we will hear from different regions with live reports and talk to coaches that have made surprising moves into the tournament.

Of course, you can listen in thank to Goucher College.
We suggest you try and use the low-bandwith signal which will require you to have Real Player and selection the 28K version of the show.
At the same time, you can listen to the Broadcastmonsters.com version, using Windows Media Player (go to the "Hoopsville" page for more information).

And you can share your opinions and questions with us, live on the air.
email - hoopsville@d3hoops.com  
AOL IM - Hoopsville2000

And for more information... check out the "Hoopsville" website (www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville)!

Again... it all starts tonight at 8:30 PM EST.
Title: GNAC
Post by: Christoper Bridges on March 03, 2005, 10:49:19 pm
Ok, so check it out. How does WNEC get an ECAC bid after losing to jwu first round of the tourney? How do they get a bid over Emmanuel, and for that fact JWU?

But, excluding that, congrats on the first round win, even though you dont deserve to be in the tourny...

Whats the confrence look like next year? I'm a JWU fan, and only know about them. Id like to know about the rest of the conference, and how we look next season. As for JWU, they are losing only two in seniors brian bannister and dice yoshimoto. Though they were both huge contributers to the team, they may prove to be liabilities well worth losing next season. dice's lack of agression with the ball, pressure handling, decision making, and his risk to turn the ball over are all things JWU will be better without. Replacing him will be easy with return of Cory Brown. Cory saw little action this year between eligibility and injury, but showed his presence. His speed is unmatched in the country. if he can improve his ball handaling, playbook knowledge, and shooting, he can prove to be a star in this conference.

Brian bannister will be a loss to the team. however, his inconsistency, turnovers, and often poor shot choice will not be missed. Replacing him overall will be hard though.

The Wildcats overall will return 11 players. They should be primed to be one of the tops in the conference. I fell one of the keys for jwu is in their big men. If they can get Forwards Jeff Barbosa and Brock Champaine into shape, the conference is in trouble. Both are very big, and showed flurishses of a dominant big man presence throughout the season. Together, they have the potential to be one of the best big men duo's in the country. They wil ahve to work hard this season on weight, strenght, and wond though.

another key to them being ready to go, is moving coner moran to the 3. Coner has been stuck on the block for 3 years. even though he is big, he is a wong player, not one for mixing it up down low. If he can get to the wing for his senior season, and do damage shooting, cutting, and penetrating, he will be a force in the conference.  

Fellow senior next season, Brian fernandez will also be ready to play next season. He will need to develop a right hand, and severly improve his shot selection. He is deadly when open from outside, but often forces horrible shots. such choices found him on the bench for the second half of the season.

Japhet kerr had a good showing this season, primarilly as a defensive force. if he can improve his already sufficating d, along with his ball handling and shooting, he will be a valuable asset to the team.
Title: GNAC
Post by: Christoper Bridges on March 03, 2005, 10:50:06 pm
last post  continued

the x factors for next season are deffinetly in forwards Jason Jones, Greg samuels, and Tirone McCray. Jones started a few games in the beggining of the season, before eligibility problems. Hes a big rebounder, and very aggressive, despite his only 6'2 size. If he can learn to gel with the team, and leave his attitude asside, he can contribute big for the cats next season. Samuels is another undersized forward with a gift of jumping. He is also one of the naturally strongest players i have ever seen. if he can improve all aspects of his game over the off season, he can serve as a hige part of the team of the bench for the big men, or jones. Finally, tirone mccray will serve as conar morans breather. Tirone has the same game, same frame. However, he is a little more able on the block, and less athletic. Depending on his improvment over the offseason, he may even be able to oust the senior, providing the polotics dont getinvolved. All is dependednt on his off season dedication.

well, thats it for JWU. lemme here from the other fans, whats your team gonna be like next year? lets get this forum back alive like last season!!
Title: GNAC
Post by: Hoopy1 on June 27, 2005, 11:04:33 am
Does anyone know what's going on at Suffolk?  Have they hired a coach yet?
Title: GNAC
Post by: beantown baby on July 19, 2005, 01:36:35 pm
Adam Nelson from Newbury took the Suffollk job.  He is also bringing on former Newbury aide Rich Fazzi who played for him at Becker.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: truth on August 18, 2005, 08:54:57 am
Who do You think is going to finish on top of the Gnac this year?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: truth on August 18, 2005, 09:01:15 am
I know many might laugh but my pick is Emmanuel. Emmanuel will surprise many teams this year :o.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on November 19, 2005, 01:18:24 am
Anyone go to any games???
Title: WNEC
Post by: d3bballinboston on November 21, 2005, 01:34:01 pm
I heard they got accepted to the CCC.. Any truth to this?? If so who is going to replace them?? Rumor has is that Newbury, St. Joe's of Maine, Lasell and Mt. Ida are all interested in the GNAC.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: AJ on November 26, 2005, 12:29:01 pm
Yeah WNEC is going to the CCC in the fall of 2007, its definite.  Look for some of the lower CCC teams to be headed to the GNAC in return though, as the CCC is trying to go down to 8 teams.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: ChesterGreen on December 01, 2005, 12:35:22 pm
Any early nominantions for POY in the GNAC?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on December 01, 2005, 02:28:29 pm
How about Godbout the PG from WNEC, or Will Dawkins from Emerson (i just saw he scored something like 39 in against UMB...Its still early though
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: beantown on December 02, 2005, 11:29:04 pm
d3bballinboston-  I am famiiar with the situation and can say that I know one of the schools that you mentioned is seriously considering applying to the GNAC, but since I am affilated with that school and the athletic department, I would rather nother comment on which school it is.  Also despite Suffolks's early season struggles I think they will be fine this year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on December 07, 2005, 04:15:25 pm
who is gonna win the league this year?? havent herd much from anyone
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: titan3 on January 01, 2006, 10:44:01 pm
Should see some good games starting up in the GNAC in the next week.  With pre-season tournament games finished, the league can get started with head-to-head.  Like the looks of Norwich again this season.  Even though they lost some key seniors, they have Cheatham and Hensley returning with alot of experience, and additional experience in several sophmore's.  They are off to a good start.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on January 01, 2006, 11:12:46 pm
Yes, they are off to a good start, however they have not faced anyone of any substance yet so dont jump the gun too quickly. From what i have heard around the leauge, Emmanuel and WNEC are pretty good this year as well.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: WNECFAN on January 21, 2006, 04:39:27 pm
I wanted to weigh in on whats going on in the GNAC after x-mas break.... I've seen WNEC twice (although it was against Daniel Webster and Rivier) this week and they looked real good. I would say they could be the team to beat in the GNAC!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: carolina on January 24, 2006, 11:22:32 pm
Well obviously WNEC isn't too good or is Southern Vermont a sleeper. Mountaineers beat WNEC tonight anyone know what happened!!!!!!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on January 25, 2006, 11:17:05 am
Southern Vermont has some talent, but WNEC definitly should not loose to them...I have seen some games and to me the top two teams right now are Norwich and Emmanuel...then there is Suffolk, Wnec, Emerson all in the mix
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: raining3s on January 27, 2006, 01:29:25 pm
Emmanuel has some depth ....that freshman from NY can shoot....Jamahl has done a very good job in recruiting and  ...they are only going to get better.....
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: akirk on January 27, 2006, 01:36:20 pm
FYI - Jamahl is not the only one recruting for EC.  He brought in a former UMASS- Amherst player (Ted Cottrell) from the Camby era to recrute the area.  From talking to him (Cottrell) this past summer, he has been able to get a lot more bites for a small program like Emmanuel beyond just locally.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on January 28, 2006, 06:20:44 pm
Things are starting to shape up a little bit here now. It seems as though Emannuel is the best in the league closely followed by Norwich. I dont know whats up with Norwich losing two in a row. And then we have Emerson in third, didnt realize they were that good. Then Suffolk, and WNEC. WNEC also seems to be pretty good as well.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: raining3s on January 30, 2006, 02:35:13 pm
I do know ...that Jamahl...does not recruit by himself...I do understand the recruiting aspect ...of D3 schools...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: the_real_gnac on January 30, 2006, 06:25:49 pm
When it comes down to who is actually making a statement there is no one all the so called top teams have shown they are able to be beaten. A sleeper definately is SVC ive seen this team play and they are limited in actual basketball players but have won 5 games already in conference and the losses were all tough games never a runaway.Although the 2 most powerful teams are Emmanuel and Norwich neither of these teams are that much tougher than SVC,Emerson,Or WNEC when conference tournament play comes around look out because alot of people will be shocked.And as for player of the year when you look at wins one may take a different opinion but player stats would show SVC'c hammond is the nations leader in rebounds and also top 50 in multiple categories if SVC can pull out some big wins theres no reason he shouldnt win it unless its more funny business gnac voting
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 31, 2006, 08:59:59 am

do you really think its going to be that competitive?  There were obviously two or three teams dominant throughout the early season.  What do we know about recent performances that make all these teams so even?  Honestly, I don't follow the GNAC all that closely, I'm asking you guys who go to games.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on January 31, 2006, 05:27:09 pm
It seems as though this yr. will be very competitive. Emmanuel is good but not great (Emerson only lost by 3 last night) and Norwich is on a 3 game losing streak. WNEC is playing very well lately. And then Emerson, suffolk and J+W are also in the mix. I could see many upsets come tourny time.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on January 31, 2006, 05:28:28 pm
I think it's going to be that competitive....I've seen almost every team in action this season and have watched GNAC ball every season the conference has formed.

This season, the top teams are Emmanuel, Norwich, Emerson, WNEC and Suffolk. JW is right in the mix too, especially if they get playoff games at Harborside. It's pretty much this way every season....the top 2 usually advance in the quarters and then anything goes in the semis and finals.

Emmanuel and Norwich are strong and you can't count out Emerson- they've been in the finals 7 out of 10. There's still three weeks left in the regular season....a lot will come down to who gets the home games. Do teams have to drive to VT, Springfield or Boston?  I think it makes a big difference- the travel even more so than home court advantage.

Most teams don't need 3-5 hours in the van and then play a big game. Check back on 2/10 for a better picture. Let's get some chatter going from some of the top teams...what do you guys think?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 01, 2006, 08:50:47 am

Nice to see the GNAC coming somewhat alive.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: the_real_gnac on February 01, 2006, 02:52:58 pm
Yes travel is definately an affecting factor and i believe it has been for the entire season there is some gnac play tonight  hope to hear some feedback
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 02, 2006, 04:48:35 pm
 Emerson plays @ Suffolk tonight....only game on tonight's docket. I hear they are expecting a good crowd. I should be able to get there tonight (if I can beat the rush to a seat.)

I saw the first game.....good game, close down the stretch. Emerson had a 16 point lead in the 2nd half and Suffolk cut it to 4 with two minutes to play but couldn't get closer.

Emerson has been playing better lately, especially on the defensive end. No reason to expect anything less than a hard fought game. Should be fun.

I haven't been to Suffolk since the '04 GNAC quarters when Aaron Young went 7-7 from 3-point land to help the Lions beat the Rams...that was a classic.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on February 02, 2006, 11:31:18 pm
I saw that game tonight. Emerson can play man. They are a totally undersized team which plays their butts off. They were completelty the better team and looked like a team that works hard enough to beat anyone. They completely smother the ball handler whenever he gets the ball and the play smart. It will be an interesting couple of weeks in the GNAC...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 03, 2006, 03:47:27 pm
Yeah...I was there too. This is typical Emerson- they start slow, roles get defined and then they pick up steam. They'll most likely get at least one home game in the tourney, maybe two depending on the rest of the regular season and who wins in the quarters. They'll be a tough out if they keep defending like this.

Play of the night last night was midway in the 1st half with Suffolk up 22-21. Alfredo Tovar almost created a 10-second violation on his own against John Murphy....Murph has to call a TO right at the 10-second mark to save the posession. That fired up the Lion D and set the tone for the game....then they outscored Suffolk 23-10 to go up 12 at the break. Suffolk cut the lead to 5 at 52-47 but a 9-1 Emerson run closed it out.

And for anyone who was at the game......how bout the fast break dunk by 5'8" Lion Morales Hendricks......up, up and awayyyyyyyyyy! 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on February 04, 2006, 10:11:37 pm
Upset of the day....Emerson over Norwich at NU...Big win for EC, and big loss for NU.....

Emmanuel won.......

Suffolk lost to S.vt...looks like they may be starting to fall apart.....

So now we have

1. Emannuel 12-1
2. Tied Norwich 9-4, Emerson 9-4
3. WNEC 8-5

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 06, 2006, 08:45:52 am

If its not E vs E for the conference tournament crown, I would be very suprised.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on February 11, 2006, 09:07:29 pm
I saw the Emerson, S.vt game today.

Emerson looks totally different than that suffolk game I saw them in. They seemed to cruise through the game today. They didn't play hard (and that is unlike EC). I dont know why but today they did not look like a good team. Another thing is they got killed by S. vt's guard posting their smaller guards up. S Vt. just lobbed it over their heads numerous times. I think teams in the league may be catching on that Emerson is very small. Hopefully they will be ready for their rematch against Emannuel next wk.


Watch out for WNEC. They beat Norwich today, they can definitly end up in the finals this year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: the_real_gnac on February 12, 2006, 01:16:40 pm
Well last night follows up what i said previously there is going to be alot of upsets in the gnac.WNEC beat Norwich and SVC topped Emerson its coming down to the last couple of games and any slip ups can lead to a difference in tournament play.Good luck to the 8 teams entering the tournament ....any predictions on the all conference team
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on February 12, 2006, 03:37:54 pm
My predcitions

1st team-

John Murphy-suffolk
Steve Georgoulis-Emerson
Jon Godbout-WNEC
Rene Cheatham-Norwich

And then you can interchange...Doug Hammond from S.VT, Geoff Hensley from NU...Mike Mcmahon, from Rivier,
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 13, 2006, 08:43:35 am

OK, now any shot of an at-large bid is gone; this tournament should be interesting.  I'm guessing anyone in it has a shot at winning the whole thing.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: the_real_gnac on February 13, 2006, 11:09:16 am
Oh wow you say cheatham 1st team you must either go to norwich or is related to him because there is no was your saying interchange the nations rebounder in hammond with a player like cheatham who is only a solid role player.Im not too sure if you guys are really following the gnac the 1st team should go
Steve georgoulis-Emerson
Doug Hammond- SVC
John Murphy-Suffolk
Jon Godbout- WNEC
and only interchangeable is between MCmahon-Riv and Hensley-Norwich
And as far as POY tough battle between Hammond and Georgoulis
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 14, 2006, 11:39:23 am

So is anyone going to beat Emmanuel?  They've been on quite a roll of late. 

I know there are byes, but does the GNAC do a six team or a ten team tournament?

A lot of things can change this week.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: bball fan on February 14, 2006, 03:17:35 pm
Oh wow you say cheatham 1st team you must either go to norwich or is related to him because there is no was your saying interchange the nations rebounder in hammond with a player like cheatham who is only a solid role player.Im not too sure if you guys are really following the gnac the 1st team should go
Steve georgoulis-Emerson
Doug Hammond- SVC
John Murphy-Suffolk
Jon Godbout- WNEC
and only interchangeable is between MCmahon-Riv and Hensley-Norwich
And as far as POY tough battle between Hammond and Georgoulis

hey i look at this stuff a great deal and im curious as to how you figure cheatham is a solid role player.. just curious have you ever watched him play. not taking anything away from any of those other players but cheatham is a tremendous player with a great upside.. ive been to a great deal of games. but thursday's game nu has against svc should be a good one.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: rudebuoyz on February 17, 2006, 03:31:38 am
svc looses against norwich by 1 point. 76-75....very good game. i definitely think svc is going to surprise the GNAC in the playoffs. they lost by a buzzer beatermade by cheatem with less than a second left on the clock. very exciting game it was.it was also interesting to see svc's hammonds match off with cheatam...Svc's hammond definitely did his usual thing grabbing 15 rebounds and having 19 points while cheatem put 20 pts in the bucket with a number of rebounds too. but the difference came whjen svc who was loosing by 13 with 5 minutes left on the clock came back on a run to lead the game by a point with 9 secs left on the clock. considering that svc virtually has no bench, fatigue contributed to their loss which was shown in the team captain bonnet missing a clutch freethrow to catch up with norwich late in the second half. Henslely of nu proved how legitimate a guard he is in the clucth period by managing to find open men for a clutch bucket.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: the_real_gnac on February 19, 2006, 01:03:56 pm
i actually witnessed cheatham play a couple games dont get me wrong he is a good player but he is not much of a consitant threat. very good player but i would say 2nd team. the playoff brackets are going to be very interesting.i predict a couple of shockers but none consisting of emmanuel they will be playing in the championship saturday. tuesdays match ups are going to be interesting but how teams have ben playing as of lately it wouldnt shock me to see an emmanuel vs svc in the gnac championship . great season to all coaches and players now lets see what happens in tournamen time
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 19, 2006, 03:13:21 pm
Yeah, SVC is playing as well as anyone right now aside from Emmanuel. Aside from the Saints, I think any of the teams can find their way to the finals if they play well.
As far as I can see, here are the quarterfinal matchups for Tuesday:

8-Riv @ 1-Emmanuel
7-SVC @ 2-Norwich
6-Suffolk@3-WNEC
5-J & W @ 4-Emerson

How wacky is the GNAC? SVC lost 2 close games vs. Norwich...but Suffolk beat WNEC twice, JW beat Emerson twice, and WNEC beat Norwich twice...and Emerson has played everyone tougher on the road than at Pine Manor. Aside from Emmanuel making the semis, I can't make a guess on who else advances with them until Tuesday night around 11. The 5-6-7 seeds are much better than in past tourneys. All 4 top seeds have usually advanced in the past- I bet that is NOT the case after Tuesday.

It's ON...

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: rudebuoyz on February 19, 2006, 11:58:29 pm
greetings u earthlings.....so j&W loses against svc...hmmmm...this is going to be a very exciting playoff session...predictions: svc beats norwich...(just because of the rule of life which says "in life u cant get lucky 3 times)....suffolk beats WNEC....and emmanuel destroys riv....j&W beats emerson...
lets see what happens in the 1st round
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: thebigO567 on February 20, 2006, 07:59:46 pm
will be some good games on tuesday. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 21, 2006, 01:14:47 pm
Rudebuoyz-

If you think that it's hard for one team to beat another in a season three times, why didn't you pick Emerson and WNEC to win tonight?  Each lost twice to tonight's opponent....just a question.

The games are really too close to call either way. Emmanuel is a favorite tonight, but it's not like that game is a gimmie either- Saints won by 2 at Riv and by 10 at home. The Raiders do have McMahon, and if he gets it going he can score 35 himself and make it a game down the stretch.

Tonight will be fun and we can revisit the games tomorrow and see what the semis hold.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Jamball1444 on February 22, 2006, 02:56:25 pm
Anyone notice the players that Riv is losing due to the head coach?  It's a shame that the admin doesn't recognize the incompetence involved.  They could and should have been a contendor in their conference for 3 years with Rookie of Year and Leading Scorers, but given the head coach's ineptness they will never have a winning season.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: thebigO567 on February 22, 2006, 04:34:27 pm
is theer a web-site for statistics (team and individual) for the GNAC?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 22, 2006, 04:53:05 pm

I'm not sure if there are stats there, but scores and stuff can be found at the GNAC website (http://www.thegnac.com/sports/mens/basketball.php).
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: creekhoops on February 22, 2006, 05:44:23 pm
Probably a wise idea not to go down that road.  Regarding Rivier men's basketball, I have to respectfully disagree with the previous poster.  Coach doen't need (or expect) me to defend him, but I have coached against him on several occasions in my days in the GNAC.  Now that I am out and far away, I can say that I understand some of the challenges he faces at Riv.  The man is not inept.  Fact is, he can flat out coach.  Look at how far that team has come - in a time when Emmanuel is coming on strong, Norwich had it's run, and Emerson is - well, Emerson.    JWU will always have athletes and can pick them off trees if they so choose.  Rivier gets a different type of kid up there.  It isn't easy to sell college basketball to a kid in Nashua.  The facility is antiquated, and schedulling classes can be a pain in the butt up there.  Yet, he has been able to get a rookie of the year and a scoring leader recently.  That says he's out looking.  Dave does things the right way, and he expects everyone else to, as well.  He respects the game and expects the same in return.  I have broken down his film and picked apart his sets - he is intricate and precise.  I would have no problem sending a kid to him because he is a man of integrity.  Hell, I just may.  Either way, lets keep in mind that this board has come a long way since the days of coach and program bashing.  Best of luck to all teams left in the tournament - Coach Finn in North Carolina.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: carolina on February 22, 2006, 11:21:14 pm
Well said creekhoops!!! Why is it if a team isn't doing well it's always the coaches fault but when they are doing great the coach is great? sometimes schools just do not get the support they need from administration to make their teams any better. Some coaches get lucky with their talent. SVC brought in some great athletes when Marks was there but no matter what type of coach goes to SVC, DWEB or even Rivier (except for volleyball) they will never be able to compete with the likes of Amherst, or Williams or maybe even any NESCAC school. They just do not get the support. There is nothing to do in Bennington or Nashua. Only certain types of kids are going to go to those schools and it is tough to get one great athlete let alone 5 or 6 at the same time. IT's not always the coaches fault and if you have never coached on the collegiate level you will never understand.   
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: the_real_gnac on February 23, 2006, 12:06:05 am
Well to all the good Gnac players i would like to say great season and i would love to say congradultaions to the gnac player of the year Douglas Hammond great season SVC put up a great challenge with their limited number of actual b ball players but congrats to him and the GNAC champs
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on February 23, 2006, 01:00:19 am
Do you mind me asking who said Hammond was the player of the year?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: thebigO567 on February 23, 2006, 09:55:50 am
you talk about riveria,DW, and So. Vt., not being in a big town or b-ball area. It seems Norwich has been able to do alright for the past 4 years being in upstate Vt. and in a town of Northfield! 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: creekhoops on February 23, 2006, 10:30:15 am
Well in the early 90s, coach Griffith had the DWeb kids playing well.  In 1999, Rivier had a nice run.  And we all know about the Marks-era Mountaineers at SVC.  Excellent point - Northfield, VT is a tough draw for recruiting.  But Norwich is a demanding school, with tough standards for military and non military students.  A solid recruiting class can carry well over for a few seasons.  Coach Booth has done an outstanding job there.  So, one cannot blame the town for a lack of success.  However, it is hit or miss in D3 recruiting no matter where you go.  The point is, I think, that if a kid is looking for a Norwich Type school, with their standards lofty as they are, your choices are limited.  There is always West Point...  However, Rivier being a private school only 30 minutes from a much cheaper Fitchburg State, with nothing extremely unique to offer, is a tough place to convince a kid to spend 25,000+ to attend each year.  In the Ebb and flow of things, Riv will see their way into the top four.  It isn't easy when you have competition who is also improving each year.  Tough to mark progress that way.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: hoopsfab4 on February 23, 2006, 10:31:45 am
Actually,  Jamball1444 has it right.  the program has lost 3 or 4 players this year because they hated the coach.  Team chemistry is the reason they lost so many close games - and that is the coach's fault.  As far as "he can flat out coach"; much if not all of that credit should go to his assistant coach.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Jamball1444 on February 23, 2006, 11:21:03 am
With all due respect to Carolina, it sounds like you've been out of the loop as far as Riv goes.  I don't know the head coach's long term  history, but if you look at his W/L record it pretty much tells the story.  The point you made about his recruiting skills is one thing I can't argue because he did have a Rookie of the Year two years in a row and a Scoring Leader as well.  There are definitely other players on Riv with talent that should be competitive with their conference.  This has to make one wonder with all this talent why they still can't win...that is inept coaching.   I totally agree with hoopsfab4, riv's asst coach has a great rapport with the players and it's a shame he can't step up into the head coach position...that's when you'd see riv have a winning record for the first time in.......forever????
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: carolina on February 23, 2006, 04:42:40 pm
Well Jamball everyone is entitled to their opinion and you may be right about the coach. I dont know. I do not know him. However all I am saying is that everyone is too quick to judge the coach when things are going wrong. Everyone in the stands seems to be a critic and everyone thinks they are a coach but until they are put in tough situations they shouldn't be so quick too judge.

As far as Douglas Hammond getting poy. That is correct. Heard it through some GNAC coaches. Congrats to him. He is an outstanding player!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Jamball1444 on February 23, 2006, 05:25:48 pm
Thanks Carolina, I respect your opinion as well.   My opinions of the Riv head coach are only based on the last 4 years.  I was not quick to judge him at all and I'm well aware that coaching from the stands is alot easier than actual coaching.   You could base my comments on his losing record, you could base it on what I said earlier about having "Rookie's of the Year", "Leading Scorers" and still not able to pull of a winning season or even close to it.    I would think that given the above that the coach would have to be held accountable.  I guess if I there was any evidence at all that he was a successful coach in any way and I'm not even referring to just his losing record, I might be humbled and change my opinion.  Until that time I think Riv needs to seriously consider replacing him.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 23, 2006, 09:12:04 pm
Emerson 68, Emmanuel 58  - it's a final from the Yawkey Center on the Fenway.

The Lions raced out to a 30-11 lead over the 1st 15 minutes and led 42-27 at the half. The Saints cut it to 3, 54-51 with 6:30 to play but the Lions made theit FT's down the stretch.

I couldn't get to the game tonight so this is a secondhand report- but I was told it was really close over the last 5 minutes.

The Lions advance to the GNAC Tourney Finals for the 8th time in 11 seasons.

Congrats to Coach Jackson and the Saints on a fine season. A 17-1 regular season GNAC record and 20 wins overall is a lot to be proud of. They have a good young team that is well balanced and they'll be a force in the GNAC for seasons to come.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: creekhoops on February 23, 2006, 10:20:52 pm
Congrats to both Emerson and Norwich.  Should be a great rematch - two teams know eachother very well, having played in last year's final and twice this season.  Tough place to play - long trip in the Emerson Vans, but those are tough kids and they have the drive to get it done.  Norwich withstood the brunt of a tough second half of the season, and here they are once again.  Deservedly so.  I believe Emmanuel will receive an ECAC invite, as will the runner up.  Either way, the GNAC will be well represented in the post season.  A well-balanced season from the GNAC, with several teams within just a game or two from one another.  Lets hope the best team wins it, and gets the GNAC a win in the NCAA tournament. Pipes - I can't believe you missed this game!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: thebigO567 on February 24, 2006, 01:44:32 am
norwich played a hard game tonight as did wnec. with hensley and godbout cancelling each other out with great defense, norwich came thru in the stretch. should make for a great finals game at norwich. cheatham another strong game with a double- double. coming on strong during tournament time.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 24, 2006, 09:15:06 am

Norwich and Emerson for a trip to the big dance.  I'm picking Emerson in this one, they are on too good a run of late.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 24, 2006, 12:34:03 pm
Thanks Hoops Fan- hopefully this year we will get it done.  There won't be any surprises in store for Coaches Hank Smith and Paul Booth- just 40 minutes and two teams playing hard.

Last year it went down to the end- hopefully we'll be treated to the same kind of game. I know the Lions will bring max effort and hopefully that translates into our first NCAA tourney berth and our 3rd GNAC title in 8 trips to the finals.

I'll be making my way to Northfield tomorrow and I will post on Saturday night late or on Sunday morning.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: thebigO567 on February 25, 2006, 09:20:25 pm
Congrats to the Norwich Men and Women for pulling off the double victories in  Conference titles tonight.  At Norwich,  Norwich managed to play solid the entire game and Coach Booth got great play from guys off the bench as well.  Looking forward to see who they draw in the first round on Sunday night
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on February 27, 2006, 01:17:41 pm
Congrats to Norwich for going back to back. Congrats to emmanuel on having a good season and looks like they will be a force for years to come. Congrats to Emerson on making it to the final game again.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on March 02, 2006, 11:00:39 pm
Norwich beat a decent elms team tonight, however SJF will be a  much harder task. Good luck to them
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 03, 2006, 08:29:03 am

Good win for Norwich; I didn't think they had it in them.  I would love for them to pull an upset tomorrow, but those are long odds.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: runitup on March 04, 2006, 07:13:48 pm
I guess I'm out of the loop. What really went on up there at Riv this year? Anyone got specifics, not just rumor?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: THE BIG MAN on March 05, 2006, 10:15:14 pm
everyone needs to know that this was an ok year for the svc mountaineers but just wait til next year there will be some fire coming from svc this waas a rebuilding year for them but dont worry i have a feeling they will get the gnac and get very far in the ncaa tourney congrats to the mvp of the gnac next year there should be another one and your team should make the first team the starting line up i am talking about
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on March 05, 2006, 11:31:22 pm
Thanks for the update mr. hammond
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: the_real_gnac on March 07, 2006, 01:09:42 am
To Let you know this is Mr Hammond And i would never come on this site to give myself extra credit what i recieved i deserved and who ever the big man is thanks and next year should be good ...good luck to all the teams
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: thebigO567 on March 07, 2006, 10:35:07 pm
Good season for the top 4-6 teams in the GNAC, especially Emanuel. Was a shame they lost to Emersonin the conference semi's. would have liked to see the rematch of norwich/Emmanuel for the title.  Norwich had a few losses in Jan. cuz Hensley turned an ankle and had to sit out 3-4 games> Kid is averaging 16 pts. and 4-5 assists could have turned losses into possible wins.  Would have made the conference race closer.  Congrats to the 5 first team conference players. Murphy,Godbout, Hensley, Hammond, Georgoules.  Unfortunately,no one from Emmanuel there and they had a great record!! 3 guards and 2 centers!! Wonder what they are looking for... Hammond and Hensley recorded double and triple respectfully in D-3 catagories, whcih shows they played consistantly every game. But in Norwich's case they came out on top with the furthest record, which shows they played more as a TEAM! It takes 5 to win most of the time, and with respect to Hammond's and Murphy's ability, its' more than shooting and scoring for a team to have only 1 or 2 shine. Norwich got alot of help out of Cheatham and Williams in scoring when Hensley had an off night. And team rebounds from Cheatham, Dupont, and Dumond, averaged 30+ s a team.  That showed good balance in both their offense and defense.  I'm looking for Norwich to be a strong contender next season in the GNAC.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on March 08, 2006, 03:19:19 pm
Another solid season in the GNAC...I've been busy as hell and no time to post. A tip of the cap to the Cadets for winning the tournament and getting to the 2nd round. It was another good game, but my Lions fell short again. Not many people in the gym thought EC would rally after being down 21, but that whole house was nervous when the Lions got to within 7.

Hammond- you deserved to be POY in the GNAC, anyone who says otherwise didn't see you play.

Norwich should be good again next year but they will struggle in the beginning as they try to replace Hensley - and if they can't replace him they'll have problems. Great PG's are tougher to replace than big men in D3- I've seen it time and time again in this league.

Emerson opens their brand new gym next season- finally a place we can call our ouwn. Goodbye to Pine Manor, Chinatown Y, Mass College of Art, the Nuthouse, and captain's practice outside at the Fens. The ROTC made for good dribbling cones but I'm happy to see those days go by the boards.

Emerson should be a factor once again along with Norwich, Emmanuel, and anyone who reloads next fall.

Have a great offseason everyone and we'll do it all again in November.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: THE BIG MAN on March 10, 2006, 07:47:15 pm
why do everyone think that emmanuel and norwich is going to run over people yall should look out for the boys at svc i am tell you the gnac not be ready the are coming for the title that belongs to them............. and emerson will not be that good neither will norwich just be prepared to see a hard fought season through the gnac
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 10, 2006, 08:09:11 pm

Um, you're really late Big Man or else extremely early.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: THE BIG MAN on March 10, 2006, 08:49:17 pm
i am early cause it going to happen and ur mouths will be shut just leasve it at that
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 10, 2006, 09:00:01 pm

I couldn't care less about who wins the GNAC; my mouth will be wholly and entirely in whatever state I choose for it to be.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: THE BIG MAN on March 10, 2006, 09:24:01 pm
well just know that svc is going to win the whole thing
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: thebigO567 on March 12, 2006, 10:38:59 am
Hoops fan, I guess the "big man" must be the dad of one of the players, because if he was a student he'd fluncked out because of his english!  S.V.C. has potential to be a good team, but again I say you have to play together as a team, and I see several individuals that are "me" players.  The conference will definately be a good one to watch.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: THE BIG MAN on March 12, 2006, 01:47:18 pm
they will play together you will see they have a good chemistry and it going to show when the season starts
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 13, 2006, 09:37:49 am
it going to show when the season starts

That's eight months away, man.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: THE BIG MAN on March 13, 2006, 02:07:40 pm
i know the playing and learning what each other can and cant do right now the working out and running together to take over the gnac and go far in the ncaa
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: creekhoops on March 13, 2006, 05:48:27 pm
Man, can someone teach this guy how to punctuate?  I assume he isn't an English major...
Big Man - it is my opinion that SVC will never see the likes of the teams they had in 2002-2003, and 2003-2004.  Ryan Marks brought the new flavor to Bennington, that sweet, Chicago style of basketball that was too big, to strong, too fast, and too powerful for the town to fathom.  It couldn't last forever, though.  Coach went to a DII team, many players left or graduated - and despite an outstanding performance from Hammond this season, there are lots of reasons why SVC won't have it like that again. 
Everyone is trying to get better.  Emmanuel is going to be stacked, Wales is hot on the trail of some studs, and Norwich has established themselves as contenders.  SVC will have to compete with them, without the benefit of Ryan Marks' kids.  It is tough to attract kids to many schools in the GNAC, SVC being one of those schools.  All of the smack talking, 8 month - out predictions, and runnin' ball up at SVC between now and May will not change the fact that the Mountaineers have already reached their summit, and can expect a steady decline, back to the have-not status they enjoyed in the Pre-Marks era.  That is nothing to be embarrassed of - not at all.  But even Southerners still scream "the South Will Rise Again!" despite the treaty signed at Appamattox Courthouse.  Enjoy your banner from '03, and the one you almost had in '04. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: THE BIG MAN on March 13, 2006, 06:55:15 pm
thats what you dont know we have some weapons that are coming back and some that are returning from those 2 year svc was good you will see they will be stronger and smarter than them and they will have a different tempo
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: thebigO567 on March 13, 2006, 07:14:33 pm
nicely put creekhoops. every school in the GNAC is looking to get better players. The Riverer's, Albertus, WNEC, Suffolks and Emmerson, all have a good nucleus of players, and good coaches.  The Emmanuel's and Norwich's have built teams the past two years and are going to have to look for good players to come into their programs on past records.  I guess we'll  just have to wait the "big man" out to see what happens!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 14, 2006, 09:01:41 am

Are you comparing GNAC basketball to the Civil War?  That might be a stretch there, buddy.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: creekhoops on March 14, 2006, 08:36:01 pm
Hoops Fan -

You missed the point like ENaz misses free throws.  I am not comparing GNAC basketball to the Civil War (where would the comparison be?)  Simply put, the "Big Man" continues his rant on (to paraphrase)"rising again" up at SVC, much as TODAY's southerners often threaten "the south will rise again". 

Much as the South chose their own fate and reluctantly surrendered, SVC has chosen their fate and gotten away from the "Marks"ist athletes they once brought in.  It is the retrospective ranting that is being compared, not the American Civil War.  Uh oh - I said "Marks"ist, not "Marxist", so please don't accuse me of calling your CCC the proletariates to the GNAC's struggling working class.  Albeit a viable argument...

Sticking to basketball, what are WNEC's chances of winning the GNAC in their final season - and how does WNEC basketball fit into the CCC in 2007?  Will they be Salvesque, or will they become more of a NEC with a W?  Hoops fan - do tell!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 15, 2006, 08:35:24 am

I'm not exactly sure how they fit in.  The only thing I can think of is that Regis might be going co-ed and no one told me, so then we'd be in a 14 team conference.  They could have been added solely to make the women's teams even, I don't know.  I think they'll do ok.  I doubt they will be challenging for any playoff spots.  Although, that is assuming they are in the North (to even Regis being in the South, even though that makes little sense geographically.

Really it seems like their addition is making way for a CCC split of some kind; I just can't get any info out of people.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: creekhoops on March 15, 2006, 10:48:43 am
I think they will be able to play with most teams, but the CCC has better, overall competition than the GNAC today.  However, don't count out a CCC/GNAC swap.  You don't need Regis to even things out.  I know you don't want to hear this, but a CCC team has expressed interest in coming to the GNAC.  Think bootom tier team...think used to be pretty good back in the Nicky Pappas days (89-93)...think not so good right now.  But an AMCAT team joining the GNAC could be great for the GNAC.  Other teams interested have be Lasell, St. Joes, and Green Mountain.  I think Anna Maria would be a nice fit, unless you are SVC or Norwich, having to travel to Paxton - another long trip.  However, the Paxton house of Pizza right on 122 is a nice place to stop after a game, you must agree!  The Dunkin Donuts closes early, so hit it up early on a Saturday road trip or you'll miss it on the way out of town.  A WNEC for Anna Maria swap makes both conferences more competitive.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 15, 2006, 11:04:24 am

I think we'd be more than happy to get rid of Anna Maria.  However, I do think there will be some sort of shake-up of conferences in the next few years.  I'm not sure how its all going to pan out yet, but teams like Gordon and Colby-Sawyer are ready to be in a more advantageous league for postseason play.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: creekhoops on March 15, 2006, 11:35:51 am
The Ocean State would love to have Salve, Roger Williams, Johnson & Wales and RIC in the same conference.  However, RIC is happy in the Little East, Salve and RWU would never join the GNAC, and JWU isn't a CCC type school.  However, travel would certainly be easier!  Regardless, how could Colby Sawyer and Gordon get into a more competitive conference?  Would they join the NEWMAC or spawn off a newer conference?  A shakeup is bound to happen, I agree.  But what scenario makes the most sense to you - say, 5 years from now?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 15, 2006, 11:58:21 am

I've heard rumblings that some of the more "academic" schools (or ones trying to be more academic) in the CCC may split off.  This would help keep things consistent with their missions as well as open more options for other sports.  Those schools would be most of the CCC-North, with the exception of UNE, which has always been kind of the black sheep anyway.

However, the more credible scenario I have heard is that Gordon is trying to get into the NEWMAC for next fall.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on March 15, 2006, 03:57:51 pm
Teams that applied to GNAC are Anna maria, Lesley U, Mt. Ida, Lasell, St. joes of Maine, mitchell, newbury , green mountain and presque isle.

GNAC is looknig for schools that have baseball, men's tennis and men's volleyball .   I have herd they are also looking to decrese travel. So i'd think that give ida, newbury lasell adn lesley all an advantage. with newbury the only one having varsity baseball (fall of 07), men's volleyball and men's tennis.  They are also only taking full fledged ncaa members so that would elminate mitchell, presque isle and green mountain.  If it is true that they want to keep travel down that would probally elminate anna maria, but who really knows
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 15, 2006, 04:24:00 pm

Anna Maria is only like twenty minutes off I-90; they wouldn't be any further for teams from Springfield than Suffolk or Emerson.

Honestly, the smartest thing to do, would be for the NAC and the GNAC to figure out how to split teams.  Maybe have a NE conference (Presque Isle, Farmington, Maine Maritime, Husson, St Joes, Thomas, Daniel Webster, Rivier and maybe grab UNE when the CCC breaks apart); a Southeast conference (Becker, Emerson, Emmanuel, Johnson & Wales, Lasell, Lesley, Mt Ida, Newbury and Suffolk; and a Western conference (S Vermont, Norwich, Mitchell, Green Mountain, Elms, Johnson State, Castleton State, Albertus Magnus). 

That way you could get three AQ bids out of the current two.  Presque Isle is the wildcard, as they are a rediculous trek from everyone.  The NE conference would be pool B for a couple years until Thomas made it to full membership or they could get UNE to join.  That one just makes a little more sense.

It would be smarter for these schools to go more regional.  All of them would still be competitive.  If and when the CCC breaks up to get into better arrangments, there could be some pick-ups there as well.

These are just thoughts.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on March 15, 2006, 04:28:25 pm
well the thing is with WNEC leaving there are no teams left form springfield and AMC is 45 min fromboston, which is were gnac teams of suffolk, emerson, pine manor, emmanuel are all located.  so the gnac might be a little resistent to add another western mass team after just losing one.  but i do like that idea of realigning into those 3 leageus. the problem is the league that doesnt get the AQ right away. thomas is a full fledged ncaa member btw.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 15, 2006, 04:41:48 pm

Sorry, I got them confused with Mitchell.  I know the wait for the AQ (two years, I believe) stinks, but you've got St Joe's coming from independent and the other teams being decently strong, could do ok for themselves in Pool B for a few years.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: underdog on March 16, 2006, 08:14:34 pm
i think the gnac will be a tough league next year. i think albertus magnus is really gonna surprise people. they had a tough season this year but showed that they can play with anyone in the league. there young with four freshmen and their big man should really dominate the league next year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on March 19, 2006, 02:29:31 pm
GNAC has passed Newbury, Mt. Ida, Lasell, St. Joes of Maine and Anna Maria to the next stage of schools who have applied.  TEams that didnt make it to the next round was Lesley, Mitchell, Green Mountain and Preque Isle.

Could be interesting who the GNAC will take, thats for sure. I'd say the front runner if you don't take into account travel is st. joe's of maine.  Whats everyone's thought on this.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 20, 2006, 08:42:38 am

Lasell is a solid program right in the heart of GNAC territory.  They have to be the favorite.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on March 20, 2006, 10:23:52 am
lasell is only good in MBB. All their other sports are really awful.  Maybe their WVB team could be about 6-7th in the GNAC.
 But Ida, Newbury and Lasell all are in the middle of GNAC territory. All three of them are contendors.  Newbury may have a slight edge due to their varsity baseball programing starting next year.  GNAC is looking to add more baseball teams and also men's tennis teams.

Believe it our not St. Joe's is probally the favorite.  They have some of the best facilities in New England.  All competitive programs for all their sports for the most part.

it will be interesting to see what happens at the site visits this month.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: THE BIG MAN on March 21, 2006, 10:22:55 am
its doesnt matter who they bring to the gnac cause they are going to get killed by them svc boys
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on March 21, 2006, 12:28:00 pm
if the GNAC keeps SVC.  They barely field enough players in other sports.  sure they have solid numbers for Basketball by they are an embarassement to the GNAC in all other sports.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on March 21, 2006, 01:36:09 pm
Thanks for the update on the state of the league.  I am sad to see WNEC go, but there appear to be some good teams on the horizon.  I would assume that Saint Joe's has the best shot.  I've heard great things about their facilities (not just for basketball).  Mount Ida and Lasall are probably good options too, because they are in Boston.  I think Anna Maria was pretty good once, but have fallen off lately, but maybe it would help them if they were in a new league.  Newbury is obviously out because they have no facilities, so it looks like a 4 school race!  Any predictions?  At least this gives us something to chat about until Oct. 15!


Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 21, 2006, 01:39:50 pm

I can't see Anna Maria getting in.  Their facilities stink as well and no one likes driving up there.  I'm sure the CCC would be fine letting them go, but I doubt the GNAC will take them.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on March 21, 2006, 02:16:38 pm
The GNAC needs to find a school with baseball. Only schools with baseball are St. Joe's of Maine , AMC and Newbury.  The need to replace WNEC's baseball team to keep their AQ.  Facilities is not that big of an issues as Newbury uses Hellenic College for all of their events and has a 5 year contract with them.   Hellenic has no teams of their own.  This situation works out fine. It is the Celtics old practice gym.
They also use GNAC Member Pine Manor College's softball and soccer fields for events.  Most of Newbury's game managment is better than a good portion of the GNAC.  I was at a basketball game there this year and was a very good event and actually has play by play for their events.  In just the opposite end I seen an Emerson College home contest that was managed very poorly. 

St. joes facilities are awesome. The only concern is the added travel to boston teams.  The northern schools must be in favor of adding them though.

Next week is the GNAC site visits it will be interesting to see feedback on what everything turns out to be.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on March 21, 2006, 02:43:46 pm
I disagree with Ballin.  Facilities are a big deal.  Emerson finally built a gym, so everone in the league will play on campus.  As a (former) player, it is terrible to go to an off campus site to play.  I'd rather a longer bus ride to Saint Joe's than a bad gym like Newbury or Anna Maria (at least theirs is on campus).  Just my opinion.  Maybe Newbury and Anna Maria should try for the NAC.  Probably better academically for them (a lot of former JC's play there now).
I still vote for Saint Joe's - not that it matters.
Who votes anyway?  Is it AD's or presidents from the GNAC.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on March 21, 2006, 02:50:29 pm
Ok, I have too much time on my hands.........
If baseball is the key, and not facilities, here's the breakdown:
Mt. Ida and Lasell - no baseball
Saint Joseph's - defending NAC champion
Anna Maria - has a roster of like 20 guys.  Looks ok.
Newbury - Club sport.
My vote still goes to Saint Joe's.
I feel even better about it after researching a little more.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on March 21, 2006, 02:53:25 pm
i believe it is the Presidents, but not to sure who votes to be honest. The gym that Newbury uses is not bad.  And has gone over some major renovations and will be continued this summer.  .  Academically Newbury fits just fine with the GNAC except for maybe suffolk and emerson.  But other then that the demographics of AMC , Ida, Lasell and Newbury are nearly the same.  AMC is probally worse then the other 3.  I do agree with you that i think st. joe's is the favorite. but when presidents and AD's or whoever votes look at the cost of increased travel, that will be an issue.  Also The GNAC is actually looking to take more than 1 school.  In fact i have herd them entertaining the idea of taking them all.  They aren't just going to replaces WNEC.  

Newbury's club baseball has about 12 guys this year and will be full varsity next season.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on March 21, 2006, 02:58:37 pm
Ballin:  You play at Newbury, don't you!!! :o
You guys had a pretty good year.  I saw the kid from Framingham in HS, very good player.  Is that you?

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on March 21, 2006, 05:40:52 pm
nah.. i dont play at newbury.  havent played basketball since HS.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on March 22, 2006, 08:42:47 am
I believe you  ;D
Will Newbury apply for the NAC if they don't get into the GNAC?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on March 22, 2006, 09:12:36 am
no idea if they will apply to the NAC.. The travel is awful. And the NAC rejected Newbury 3 times already.  There is talk of some teams making a 4th league.. who knows.

OH.. i am a GNAC alum like your screen name.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: sully6827 on March 22, 2006, 01:04:01 pm
To correct a minor point, Mount Ida has had club baseball for the past 6 years, and would probably make it a varsity sport if it joins the GNAC.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on March 22, 2006, 02:08:04 pm
That sounds like it would give them a leg up if the GNAC wants to stay in Boston.  I've never seen their gym, but I heard it is pretty nice.  Which is a better gym, Mount Ida or Saint Joe's?  It sounds like it may come down to those two - still sad to see WNEC go though. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on March 22, 2006, 02:35:49 pm
mt. ida wont be allowed to make their club baseball varsity due to title 9 issues.. they have to add at least 3 varsity women's sports.

they have football, men's lacrosse and men's volleyball that make their numbers heavily favored in males.

but they do have a nice gym. but st. joe's is way better.

if you were going on these things with remembering that baseball is key.

if you were going on facilties. st. joe's gets the nod

location, newbury gets the nod because ida and lasell don't have baseball.  keep in mind AMC is really only 40 min away and still is closer then WNEC was.

if it comes down to academics:  st. joe's will get the nod.

if they dont care about academics and location and want to keep travel down but facilities is an issue it will be anna maria.

if it comes to game management.  st. joes and newbury are the best.. i been to events at AMC, Ida, and lasell.. it honesty it was awful. 

i'd rate the teams in this order at this point.

st. joes of maine
newbury or anna maria
mt. ida - no baseball
lasell - no baseball

something else to think about. GNAC needs two more men's tennis teams to get an AQ in tennis (newbury is the only one that has this)

Also only needs 3 more teams to get AQ's for Men's Volleyball  (newbury, ida, lasell all have)

so with that being said.. the GNAC could forget about making baseball their spring sport Team AQ and add ida, lasell and newbury and just make men's volleyball their team AQ spring sport, and not even worry about baseball.. this would allow them to add 3 boston schools and really keep travel low.

just wanted to through that whole twist in there to see what everyone's reactions is. The problem with all ths?? who knows what the GNAC ad's and presidents areactually thinking.

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: heythere on March 23, 2006, 09:33:06 am
Sounds interesting, but your saying to forget about baseball and use mens volleyball, are u kidding me, is that even a sport, and if so who cares about mens volleyball. I am pretty sure everyone else is saying the same thing also, please never put mens volleyball and baseball in the same thought again. your not only embrassing me but your embrassing urself also for even mentioning MENS VOLLEYBALL.

everyone knows st.joes will be the one to get in. they have a awesome gym and were the nac champions in baseball. remember there are only two sports to think about basketball and baseball.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on March 23, 2006, 09:41:04 am

everyone knows st.joes will be the one to get in. they have a awesome gym and were the nac champions in baseball.

Ahhh....someone from Saint Joe's chimes in!  Good to hear from you. :D

Seriously, it will be interesting to see who gets in.  Does anyone know when the vote is?

Also, is there any discussion about splitting into 2 divisions?  If Saint Joe's comes in, it could be:

North
Saint Joe's
Norwich
S. Vermont
Daniel webster
Rivier

South
Johnson and Wales
Emerson
Emmanuel
Suffolk
Albertus Magnus

Then you could play your side twice, and the other once.  18 conference games is a lot, so this would cut it down, and give the opportunity for more non-conf. games.  Any thoughts?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 23, 2006, 09:44:13 am

It might be smarter to go East/West with divisions.

I don't know for sure, but it seems like it would be easier for Norwich to get to Connecticut than it would be for them to get to Maine.  North-South travel is a lot easier in New England unless you're using I-90.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on March 23, 2006, 09:46:29 am
How would you split it then?

It seems like there would be too many teams in the "east."

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 23, 2006, 09:51:53 am

I'd probably just switch St Joe's and Albertus Magnus on your list, actually.

Those Vermont schools don't have it too easy to anywhere, but Albertus Magnus, being on I-91, can get to all the VT/NH schools without too much trouble.  It wouldn't take them much longer than going to Boston anyway.

If the league does decide to pick up an additional two or four teams, then AMC fits nicely in a "West" division.  If you're adding Boston teams, there are a few on the west side of the city that could move out there as well.

If the GNAC ends up with so many Boston teams, it makes problems for a North-South split too.  It just seems more fair in terms of travel ease to do East/West.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on March 23, 2006, 10:00:28 am
Good points.
So the split would be:

East
Emerson
Emmanuel
Suffolk
Saint Joe's
Johnson and Wales

West
Norwich
S. Vermont
Albertus
Daniel Webster
Rivier

The only problem with that is that the west would stink!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 23, 2006, 10:10:10 am

That's not necessarily a problem.  It sure helped the CCC this year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on March 23, 2006, 10:17:04 am
i was just throwing MVB out there as a discussion to see what other peoples thoughts were. I doubt the GNAC would look at MVB over baseball, but a school like Emmanuel who has MVB and not baseball would probally be pushing that issue.  At least I'd think they'd be doing it.

The fact really remains this.. What do the AD's and Presidents of Current GNAC teams want?  They could very well want a solid all-around school like St. joe's.  Or the Presidents could say, we are not going to expand the budgets to accomdate st. joe's.  I am sure Simmons, Pine Manor, Emerson, Emmanuel, Suffolk would love to see another boston school added to the mix.  Nothing like a 10 min road trip.  I also would assume Albertus and JWU would rather only go to Boston compared to Maine. 

But who really knows what the direction of this league is going.  Could the GNAC just take everyone?  That could very well could be a possibility.

What would the GNAC look like if they added all five teams.

Also I wouldnt brag to much about winning the NAC title in baseball.  That is the worst league in the country. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on March 23, 2006, 11:03:53 am
There's no way the GNAC takes all 5.  There are barely enough quality teams in the pool to take 1.  Maybe they should take Saint Joe's and Mount Ida, and drop S. Vermont Albertus, and Daniel Webster.  That would be a pretty good 8 team league.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 23, 2006, 11:25:21 am

I think St Joe's will get in now, but there is still a bigger shake-up looming.  Maybe this starts it, if they can drop a few teams.

I agree, take the one solid program and see if you can drop some dead weight.

Somebody needs to get the conference shifts started.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: heythere on March 23, 2006, 12:37:03 pm
i would have to say the nac might be bad, but its better then beging a independent.  you kept mention newbury, i am not sure but i think you cant win a confernece title if ur not in a confernece which newbury isnt and still wont be after st.joes gets voted in.

Also I wouldnt brag to much about winning the NAC title in baseball.  That is the worst league in the country. 
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Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 23, 2006, 12:52:04 pm

The funniest part about that last post, besides the lack of capitalization, was that he screwed up the quote feature and made it look like he was bashing his own baseball team.

You all might want to face facts, that neither the GNAC nor the NAC is scaring anyone nationally in baseball.  It's more like comparing apples and other, slightly different apples.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on March 23, 2006, 01:02:05 pm
funny that is part of the reason why the GNAC is considering going the MVB route.  Currently you have Rivier who is ranked 7th in the country in MVB and Johnson & Wales has been ranked nationally in the past.  If they took Newbury, they were ranked 9th last season. so if they added ida an d lasell they have 6(rivier, Southern vermont, emmanuel, newbury, lasell, ida) varsity teams, with emerson adding it when they their gym is done.   aThe GNAC could get some much needed exposure nationally.  The last time they got anything nationally in Baseball was when David Santos at JWU set the all -time getting hit by pitches in a career about 5 years ago.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 23, 2006, 01:04:02 pm

You know, it would probably help the sport nationally anyway.  There are very few, even D-I schools in New England that have varsity mens volleyball.  Getting a league with competitive teams in the region may help spur other schools to pick it up.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on March 23, 2006, 01:06:36 pm
Yeah, but it's still volleyball.  As an alum, I'd rather donate to my school to help get baseball going rather than to support volleyball.  It's not the same.  I think AD's will look at that too.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 23, 2006, 01:08:49 pm

It's also much cheaper than baseball.  There's no reason why they couldn't go with VB for now and assurances that more teams will pick baseball up in the near future.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on March 23, 2006, 01:11:29 pm
you'd be suprised how some of the AD's are really pushing the other schools in the GNAC to add men's Volleyball.. why u think SVC added it and now Emerson will add it once their gym is done.  I'd rather sit in a gym and watch a 80 minute high intensity volleyball match then sit in the cold new england temperature and watch a baseball game that last 2 -2 hours any day.  

yes another conference to have men's volleyball would really help the sport of volleyball thats for sure.  I know the JWU and Rivier AD are really pushing for the whole Men's Volleyball AQ for the GNAC
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on March 23, 2006, 01:16:00 pm
Ok, enough about volleyball and baseball.  This is a basketball board!  We know one of 5 schools will get in.  Are there any early predictions on who the best BASKETBALL team will be in the league next year (excluding the new TBA team.)
I saw a few this past year.  I really like Norwich and Emerson.  Any others?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on March 23, 2006, 01:18:34 pm
haha  but the gnac isnt only just taking 1 school probally at least 2 maybe 3 as an FYI.  I think Suffolk will be the sleeper team next year. and probally emmanuel
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 23, 2006, 01:40:34 pm

It will be either St Joe's of Lasell if either one gets in.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on March 23, 2006, 02:27:41 pm
No way more than 1 gets in - I'll bet you.

Emmanuel won 17 league games, so I bet they'll be good.

Only 2 first teamers return, Hammond (SVC) and Murphy (Suffolk), so it looks like who ever brings in the best class should have a shot. 

Emerson really defends, so don't count them out.

What about Webster, will they win a game?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on March 23, 2006, 02:46:58 pm
haha DWEB... if they get a 6-7 center who wants to study aviation then yes they will win a game.  LOL
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: THE BIG MAN on March 27, 2006, 07:39:33 pm
look out for the svc boys they are ready to play with the best
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on March 27, 2006, 08:15:03 pm
enough of SVC already.  they are freaking awful
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on March 28, 2006, 08:41:43 am
SVC did have a very talented starting 5 this year - probably as good as I saw in the league.  The problem looked like they had no depth.  If they add some guys, they could be dangerous.  But who knows, it is SVC.....
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on March 28, 2006, 10:43:51 am
dweb has a better shot at getting better players. Nashua is much better then Bennetigon
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on March 28, 2006, 12:27:29 pm
But webster has some admssion standards.  With an enrollment of 300, anyone can get into SVC!  That's why they can get players.  A last chance outpost  ;D
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on March 28, 2006, 01:13:07 pm
true good point.  amazing how a college survives on only 300 students. they must be losing a lot of money every year.  no wonder the GNAC doesnt want SVC anymore
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: dman on March 28, 2006, 02:22:03 pm
did you guys forget that svc won the gnac three years ago, and won its first game in the ncaa's???
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on March 28, 2006, 02:29:40 pm
That was 3 years ago.  A lot has changed.  Did you see that their baseball team lost 29-0 this weekend?  Women's basketball is bad too.  Men's basketball is the only sport that they are competitive in.  They probably shouldn't be in the GNAC if the league wants to upgrade. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on March 28, 2006, 02:32:58 pm
YAH their baseball team is bad.  thats why they added Men's volleyball so they can phase that team out. Once MVB takes off.  At least thats what their ad hopes happens.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 28, 2006, 02:55:13 pm
did you guys forget that svc won the gnac three years ago, and won its first game in the ncaa's???

Where's that coach and those players?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: dman on March 28, 2006, 03:29:04 pm
pat,

  it really was a case of a guy using his d3 job as a stepping stone to something else.  svc has had some really talented players in the past- guys like raphael salazar, anthony harvey, tim nicholas, etc...but when the job opened up again, after rob nugent, a former williams assistant, left, a guy named ryan marks was given the job.  he was a d1 assistant at a school in chicago, and brought with him a few of his recruits, like lydale waller, who played at a junior college and another kid who was a real stud(but i can't remember his name!!).  marks ended up going to a d2 school in texas that i've never heard of(it has some kind of christian name, i believe).  this year's team had a few of the remaining recruits from that team- hammond, and the kid from france....waller was talented enough to go overseas, but i don't know what happened to the rest of them....
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: dman on March 28, 2006, 03:41:06 pm
i would add that mike mcdonough, the coach at svc now, is from bennington; a good coach; and a great guy...unlike some of the transients that svc has had in the past........
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on March 28, 2006, 03:41:56 pm
What's your point?  I think that you are validating what Pat said, that those guys are no longer there and the program is NOT the same.  It was good for a few years, but now it stinks.   ???
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: dman on March 28, 2006, 03:52:05 pm
mcdonough may bring stability to the program that wasn't there before.  it was pretty obvious that the four previous coaches were there to advance themselves and were there temporarily.  i don't know much about gnac, svc, or mcdonough.  he may or may not be able to recruit like d1 and d2 guys with connections.  svc may never be "good" again, but it looks like at least having a local guy, with roots in the area, might help bring in "student"-athletes to the program.....
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 28, 2006, 04:05:14 pm
I think that you are validating what Pat said, that those guys are no longer there and the program is NOT the same.

Funny, I read it the exact same way. And that was the point I was going for, indeed.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: dman on March 28, 2006, 08:24:29 pm
if your definition of a good program is one that has a revolving door of coaches and brings in transfer students from junior colleges and d1 schools, then i guess svc was a pretty "good" program over the past few years, but it sounds awfully d1-like to me.  their roster would remind me of '96 rowan.  i have a different view of what a d3 "program" is.....so i'll leave it that svc was never any good to begin with, and i'll change my view, if mcdonough stays for more than another couple of years.......
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: THE BIG MAN on March 29, 2006, 12:44:50 am
if you think that you must be wrong when the season starts you will see a different type of southern vermont college bball team the will take on all changellengers and show that they are here to stay and there is nothing to stop them
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 29, 2006, 01:28:07 am
if your definition of a good program is one that has a revolving door of coaches and brings in transfer students from junior colleges and d1 schools, then i guess svc was a pretty "good" program over the past few years, but it sounds awfully d1-like to me.  their roster would remind me of '96 rowan.  i have a different view of what a d3 "program" is.....so i'll leave it that svc was never any good to begin with, and i'll change my view, if mcdonough stays for more than another couple of years.......

did you guys forget that svc won the gnac three years ago, and won its first game in the ncaa's???

Which is it? Are we ignoring the Marks Madness or embracing it, depending on the day?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: dman on March 29, 2006, 09:09:08 am
i'm going with mcdonough madness.... my first post was merely to inform the other folks that it really wasn't that long ago that svc had a great record...i'd like to see the current coach stay there for a while and develop the program.......
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on March 29, 2006, 12:00:19 pm
if you think that you must be wrong when the season starts you will see a different type of southern vermont college bball team the will take on all changellengers and show that they are here to stay and there is nothing to stop them

Dude, this is a seriously poor run-on sentence.  Getting a quality education at SVC, eh?  Another exapmle of why they don't belong in the league.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: carolina on April 01, 2006, 04:07:13 pm
Well I must add my two cents to this post as well since THE BIG MAN seems to think the world of svc. He thinks the women are going to be good and now the men. Yes the men were good a couple of years ago but, as long as the men's coaching position is part-time they will never be that competitive again. They have a couple of standout players like Hammond but thats it. Mcdonough is a great coach but he doesnt have the time to recruit when he is only part time.

To whomever mentioned starting men's volleyball was because they wanted to drop baseball....you are wrong!!!! They started mens volleyball to get rid of mens and womens track and cross country because they couldnt field teams.
Not to mention Men's volleyball will never take off at SVC. Just like any other sport it is a rec program. They do not belong in any conference. The so called AD is dillusional if he ever thinks they will be competitive. Coaches go to SVC knowing they are not going to stay, like someone said its a stepping stone. They do not pay well and there is nothing to offer any recruits. Its really not the coaches fault if the programs suck unless unqualified people were hired, which has happened in the past. Then, when they do get qualified people they push them out because the higher ups do not want someone smarter than them. THe school isnt run correctly and the people there in certain positions are not even qualified to be in those positions but I wont get into any details. BIG MAN you really need to get a grasp on reality and start going to class because your grammar and spelling are horrific!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: THE BIG MAN on April 01, 2006, 07:38:51 pm
you can say what you want put the reason the girls  at svc suck was because of the girls and the guys got a new coach and are trying to find the rythm you will see the stats next year
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: carolina on April 01, 2006, 08:26:23 pm
Again BIG MAN your typing and spelling are impressive. I never said the Coach for the SVC men wasn't good. I think he is very good  but you can only coach the talent you have. As far as the women the most competitive they will ever be is last year when they won a whopping 5 games...most since they been in the NCAA and conference. Now that they not only have a new coach but lost most of their players they were rebuilding with they do not stand a chance. As far as any other sport at SVC the Women's programs have been the most successful (with the exception of men's bball under the Marks era). The women's basketball program had more wins than the men in 2004 and the women's volleyball and softball had more wins than anyone, not to mention the women's soccer team made it to playoffs for the first time in school history. So as far as the men's programs they need a little work but again I do not blame the coaches, they are doing the best with what they have and with what the school provides them.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: the_real_gnac on April 03, 2006, 01:33:54 am
Well it's obvious almost everyone hates SVC but as stated this wasn't the issue about 3 years ago.It is for sure Marks was able to bring in a gang of talented players from all levels, that hands down did more as far as distance in the NCAA than any team in GNAC history.As far as recruiting how hard do you think it is to get a talented player to spend 4 years of his life in a town like Nashua or Bennington(probably easier to get a Dweb Duke scrimmage)and actually Mcdonough did bring in d-2 players one in which being hammond who played in the marks era but returned. Another threat that has returned is sean keys who also played with marks also returning from a d-2 school that made the tourney.Alot of you people talk about the GNAC like its the ACC its not and far from it.With low budgets in more than half the schools/programs and highschool referees.As far as next season it will be alot of changes especially with the new teams and recruiting class.  But i feel its too earlier to count any team out or give any team too much credit. Dman you obviously have been watching SVC for a while if you know about the salazaar and harvey days but it doesn't seem like you realize the impact of gaining a new coach with less experience if i do remmeber marks team won 6 or 8 games the season before the blow out recruiting year.I personaly feel next year there will be some great games between all teams and a couplle of the sleeper teams will cause many people to bite their tongues( I mean who expected emmauel to lose 1 GNAC game then lose to emerson).until next time ;)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: rudebuoyz on April 03, 2006, 01:43:51 am
WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW CAROLINA..THIS REALLY DOES SOUND LIKE A CASE OF SOUR GRAPES...DID U LOSE YOUR JOB AT SOUTHERN VERMONT?...COS YOUR KILLING ME WITH YOUR NEGATIVITY....QUIT BROODING OVER YOUR MISHAPPENINGS AND LOOK IN THE MIRROR WHEN U FEEL LIKE BLAMING SOMEONE FOR SVC'S SO-CALLED "FLAWS IN RECRUITING AND RUNNING THEIR SYSTEM"...YOU REALLY DO SOUND LIKE AN EVICTED TENANT WITH ALL DAT LAMENTING....
NO...i AM NOT A HATER AND I really do agree with u when u say,"Its really not the coaches fault if the programs suck unless unqualified people were hired," with emphasis on "unless unqualified people were hired." ponder over this for a minute and you'll understand the basics of certain moves made by Southern Vermont with respect to its sports department......dont get me wrong...i am not applauding the works of the athletic department of this college but I am sheding light on the mere fact that certain moves they have made are steps in the right direction for example...hiring a better qualified coach for the girls basketball team. bare in mind that quick results are not always the best results but steady and permanent results are the superior of the two possible outcomes.... aka it does not matter if in your words "The women's basketball program had more wins than the men in 2004 and the women's volleyball and softball had more wins than anyone, not to mention the women's soccer team made it to playoffs for the first time in school history." the question is was this a one day wonder or was this going to be a permanent thing under the then existent coach...like any smart person who knows the little there is to know about SVC sports, the adminstration figured the answer to this question quick and made the appropriate changes.....
LAST but not LEAST..."do not sleep on neither the men nor women basketball teams in svc for the coming bball season...cos you will be disappointed if you do"
I said my piece.
Carolina you can come back again with your really bitter opinion...i await that.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 03, 2006, 02:00:49 am
It's nice that the "boyz" from Southern Vermont have discovered the site. Where were you three years ago?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: carolina on April 03, 2006, 05:14:00 pm
Rudebuoyz.....Since you seem to know all about me. I am a student at Emmanuel if you must know. As far as the previos coach I have know idea what happened nor do I care. I am sure the new coaches at SVC are good....I am just saying that they need help if the athletic program at SVC is going to go anywhere.  Not to mention the Academics. You are the one who seems the need to defend SVC. Half the athletes there would be lucky to be bench players at other schools. Oh and by the way...I would never even attempt to apply for a job in Bennington VT.  The only thing it has going for itself is the scenery.  Go BOSTON!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: dman on April 03, 2006, 05:23:57 pm
real gnac,
 i haven't really watched any svc games, except the ones they've had with williams, with one exception.  i travelled to bennington to watch svc play keene state in '03.  it was a really rough game and the refs kind of lost control. alphonse michalski from keene got a tooth knocked out and there was a minor melee.  i came away from the game impressed by the spirit of the fans and the loudness of the gym.  that place really rocked.  raphael salazar played in a rec league in the berkshires and i actually played against him.  later, he was on the pittsfield shamrocks team in a "semi-pro" league, that has since disbanded.  his coach wanted an exhibition game against some local guys.  a bunch of my hoop buddies and i  drove to a junior high school gym in new york state and played a game against the team.  salazar was an incredible athlete.  i often wonder if he ever made it to europe or the cba.  anthony harvey also made a couple of cameos in a summer league i was in.  he was "above the rim"......
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: creekhoops on April 03, 2006, 11:18:11 pm
They say there is no such thing as bad publicity...I can't believe all of the SVC Mountaineer chatter going on!  These guys are getting more blogs than any team in the GNAC - and they aren't even good anymore! 

Hats off to the spin doctors behind this one...Emmanuel goes 17-1 and has MAYBE 4 posts regarding their season.  SVC can't get out of their own way and we find ourselves talking about the glory days of the Marxist regime. 

Go ahead and dig up Sean Key (is he 30 yet?) or even Lydalle Waller, Sean Ezeill, and Jack the 7 foot wannbe point guard Wolfinger.... they couldn't win it in '04, and they won't win it in '07.  True, they locked down a weak GNAC in '03 - but failed to repeat.  Marks left for St. Ed's, Norwich grabbed the reigns, and Emerson rediscovered defense.  The rest is history.

The thing about rising to the top - you need to climb faster than your competition. However, once you get to the top, you need to have staying power.  SVC lacks staying power,  and they always have. 

Emerson kids stay.  Norwich kids stick around.  Do you think Coaches Booth, Smith, and Jackson intend to allow SVC to just pass them by? 

One thing proven by Marks was that any team - in any given year - can compete for the GNAC with one , solid, "recruiting" class.  Give Rivier a 6'7" center and an athletic swing man - they become contenders.  Look what Magnus did in 02-03 with Blizzard, Douthwright, and Russell.  Anyone can do it for a year.  Great teams do it year in and year out.  In Division III, THAT is coaching.  Not only getting kids to come, but to actually go to class, pay their bill, and promote good citizenship. 

Get them to come back, like Rob Hennigan, the Godbout kid from WNEC and Hensley from Norwich.  DIII is loaded with patchwork teams and instant, EZ bake contenders.  (Hell, I used to build them myself).  But when you step back and look at the big picture, you finally see that the great teams do it the right way.

 Norwich isn't going away.  Emmanuel is going to be around for a while, because Jackson does it right.  Emerson - now that they will be in their own building - they will be able to draw those Babosnian - type kids.  The classy teams have made this conference better each and every year.  They need no promotion. James Dean said "it's better to burn out, than fade away".  Some teams do both.  Enjoy the SVC chatter - I do!  But let's hear about the true contenders, the big picture, and the future of the GNAC.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on April 04, 2006, 06:19:31 pm
Any word on any new recruits. or should i say immediate impact players
Title: Re: GNAC conference visits
Post by: d3bballinboston on April 19, 2006, 10:07:57 pm
GNAC conference visited newbury, mt ida and lasell today.

st. joes is later this month and anna maria will be the last to be visited
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: the_real_gnac on May 02, 2006, 02:14:26 pm
Well new news on a fishy situation going on up at SVC apparently 3 students atheletes on the mens basketball team were expelled from school after responding to a racial slurr by another student.No physical harm was caused to the student whom used the slurr but the 3 african american students were kicked out of school ...Does anybody see justice in that ..looks as if next year will be different up in vermont
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on May 04, 2006, 10:33:24 am
Too bad about Hammond and Edmonds.  They will be Baaaaaad next year!!!

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 04, 2006, 11:04:40 am

Hard to comment on the situation without official reports.  If they did lose three guys, that could be trouble.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on May 08, 2006, 08:35:40 am
Confirmation from the Bennington Newspaper:

http://www.benningtonbanner.com/search/ci_3780678

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 09, 2006, 09:30:40 am

Well I'm glad they are entering an appeal process.  I'm not one to condone threats, but telling someone what they said is worth fighting over might be a way to convey the serious of the issue.  The true story is probably somewhere in the middle of the whole thing.  Lets see how SVC's appeal process pans out.  Keep us informed if the paper reports anything further.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on May 10, 2006, 03:25:22 pm
Anyone have any early predictions for next years top contendors?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 10, 2006, 04:25:19 pm

Good Lord!! If you can pick the GNAC without knowing the rosters for the upcoming year, you are not human.

I'll wait until I see who is actually suiting up in November.  I know; It's no fun, but I'm not stupid to try that.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 16, 2006, 08:41:22 am

So when is the vote?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on May 16, 2006, 12:44:18 pm
may 24th is the vote by the GNAC
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on May 24, 2006, 10:05:43 am
gnac discussions have begun today at the Radisson INN in Warwick RI.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 24, 2006, 12:16:45 pm
gnac discussions have begun today at the Radisson INN in Warwick RI.

Nothing but first rate accomodations for the GNAC.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on May 24, 2006, 03:06:19 pm
hhaha it is the hotel owned by JWU
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on May 24, 2006, 05:01:00 pm
St. Joe's of Maine, Lasell and Mt. Ida all were offered a spot in the GNAC for Fall of 2007
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 24, 2006, 06:33:04 pm

Good for them.  Those are good choices.  The GNAC should earn some respect over those; at least for basketball.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on June 08, 2006, 10:30:21 am
Ok, so NOW how are they going to split it up.  By my count, there will be 12 teams on each side.  Does this make sense?

East
Emerson
Emmanuel
Suffolk
Mt. Ida
Lasell
Johnson and Wales

West
Norwich
Southern Vermont
Daniel Webster
Rivier
Albertus Magnus
St. Joe's

It's not a true East / West, or North / South for that matter.  It seems like Albertus gets screwed any way you look at it.  Any suggestions?
As an alum, it's pretty cool to see that the league has gotten so big.  I can't wait for 07-08!!!!!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: CCCalum2 on June 08, 2006, 10:39:24 am
Don't forget about the all-female institutions on the women's side of things.  Don't know how that would impact your divisions, just wanted to bring that up.  I think your divisions could work, not sure what the GNAC is thinking, but time will tell. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on June 08, 2006, 10:53:29 am
Good point about the women.  The new league would give the women 15 teams (right?).  Traditionally they have played each other once, while the men have played each other twice.  If anything, this helps the women if they continue to play each other once - 2 less non-conf. games to schedule.  If the men played only once, it wouldn't be enough - 12 conf. games, 13 non-conf.  Not sure what to make of all of this!!!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on June 08, 2006, 11:41:46 am
I can't wait for 07-08!!!!!!

I think you may see the numbers dropping back down again.  There are clearly some teams in the new GNAC that are put in serious difficulty in terms of travel and insitutional compatibility.  We spent a long time on the NAC board (I think) going over possible restructuring scenarios.  I see the GNAC getting smaller and focusing more on the Metro area; I doubt Magnus sticks around too long; they just don't fit in well in the conference.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on June 08, 2006, 01:32:43 pm
i see SVC, Albertus, and DWEB all spearheading a new league in New England.  Possible schools as well would be (mitchell, newbury, becker, regis, lesley and green mountain.)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: CCCalum2 on June 08, 2006, 04:01:41 pm
i see SVC, Albertus, and DWEB all spearheading a new league in New England. Possible schools as well would be (mitchell, newbury, becker, regis, lesley and green mountain.)
I"m sure the NCAA can't wait until the athletic prowess of this league gets an AQ. 
Is this just hearsay or do you that something is brewing?  More shake up in NE?  Could be interesting.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on June 08, 2006, 05:00:32 pm

Something is definately brewing, but we won't know a whole lot until this next group (whoever they may be) makes their intentions known.

There's a lot of speculation on previous pages of the NAC board; go check them out.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on June 19, 2006, 08:42:02 am

SVC out...effective immediately.  Who called it?


This is where things begin to get interesting.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 19, 2006, 09:16:37 am

SVC out...effective immediately. Who called it?


This is where things begin to get interesting.

Gotta give you a +1 there, Hoops Fan.

I went back to your most exhasustive posting on the NAC board (http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4661.45) to figure where the Northeast is going.

You are right.  This will get interesting.  To achieve the AQ in all of the desired sports, I think that a conference membership of 10-12 is probably the most favorable, considering the options that exist in that region.  The NAC is at 12 and is seeing fluctuations.

As you stated:
NESCAC--stable
NEWMAC--only 7 men's and 10 women's programs; could add one coed and another women's.
LEC--Public schools; stable and successful in their core sports.
MASCAC--Public schools; Massachusetts; stable; common mission and vision.

Up for grabs:
CCC
GNAC
NAC
NE New Conference?

Does male volleyball form the core for any of these conferences?

Is there any chance that a new football AQ arises from the independents?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on June 19, 2006, 10:40:25 am
SVC, Green Mountain, Newbury, Mitchell, Elms, Lesley, Wheelock, Becker, Daniel Webster and Anna Maria all supposdeldy have met last week in the very early discussions of a new league.

This is going to get interesting to say the least.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on June 19, 2006, 11:18:12 am

That's a good group and it will really (if it happens) be the catalyst for everything else.  I think it will be much easier to see where the chips fall once a new conference is difinitively formed.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on July 12, 2006, 12:08:03 pm
Is southern vermont out for this year. And if so, does that mean they are not playing the teams normally in their conference
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on July 12, 2006, 01:20:18 pm

As far as I know SVC will be independent this year, which means they'll probably end up with a good number of GNAC teams on their schedule.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on September 07, 2006, 08:20:13 pm
any predicitons, or anyone know anything about recruits....
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on October 16, 2006, 01:10:17 pm
Any team previews to report?  Teams have finally hit the practice courts...I'll try my hand at an Emerson preview by the first of the month.

I do know that the gym is open and ready to go. After 15 years of announcing for the Lions in a number of locations, we finally have a home. It should provide an excellent atmosphere for college basketball and hopefully one that opposing teams dread visiting. Cheers to the administration - they did a first - rate job.

Emerson lost two starters from last year's squad, Steve Georgoulis and Jay O'Connell. Most players are back from last year's squad: Will Dawkins (C), Ben Chase (C), Alfredo Tovar, Morales Hendricks, Anthony Riemas, Joe Boylan, and Scott McGowan....I'm not sure about others from last year's team since practice just opened.

I do know that Samuel J. Newman-Beck had knee surgery and is out for the year, so he won't be part of the rotation. The Lions also have added new players who will compete for starting positions and playing time....obviously those things will be sorted out over the next month.

Even though there are new players, the overall theme will be the same - effort, effort, effort, defense, and effort - a Coach Hank Smith staple.

Any news about any other GNAC teams?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: heythere on October 19, 2006, 07:33:30 pm
i heard that there might be some problems with emmanuel star toliver thomas, first i heard he was out for a semester now i here the year with a torn acl.

Emmanuel should still be very strong, norwich lost hensely which will be very hard to replace and wnec lost godbout so should be a tight race this year
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on October 31, 2006, 09:40:26 pm
Early predictions.....

1. Emmanuel - Is Thomas out or not?  Still cream of the crop.
2. Norwich - Heard they have a good transfer.  Solid veterans.
3. Emerson - They play in the GNAC championship game every year and play hard.
4. Suffolk - Murphy is back + good recruiting class
5. WNEC - losing Godbot hurts
6. Albertus - Surprise pick.  All freshmen from last year are back according to web site.
7. JWU - 3 key losses (Bannister, Moran, Fernandes)
8. Rivier - Can't seem to get over the hump
9. Daniel Webster - Good new coach.  Will be MUCH better!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: heythere on November 01, 2006, 09:44:15 pm
1. emmanuel- toliver is out atleast a 1st semester maybe even a year, but still return 4 other starters, 17-1 in gnac last year
2.norwich- lost hensley but still have two quick guards and a 6-7 transfer
3.emerson- somehow they just win, and play intense defense for 40
4.wnec- godbout does hurt but still have alot of key players returning
5.suffolk- leading scorer in the gnac is back, plus 3 returning starters
6.albertus- only lose 1 guy, there fresh were good last year
7. rivier- alot of talent maybe they will acutally win with it this year
8. jw- lost 3 key players which was almost all of there offense
9. daniel webster- 0-25 and counting
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: creekhoops on November 02, 2006, 06:58:26 am
It's too far of a stretch to put JWu in 7th or 8th place.  You have to believe that they anticipated losing Bannister, Moran, and Fernandes - and recruited accordingly.  I'd hold off on that pick until after the first round of confernce play.  EMU will be tough, and similar to the Wales teams of 02-04 - but beatable with solid defense.  Emerson, with their new facility and a fantastic city to recruit to, will begin their upward climb.  My thoughts are that they will be a Babson-like program before too long (that is, when Babson was good).  I couldn't care less about 5 through 10, but 1-4 is more likely to be Emerson, Emmanuel, Norwich and Wales.  Oh, and Rivier - they are getting over that hump.  They will be in the mix, as well.  Sounds crazy - but that's what predictions are all about: speculation.  Let's see.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on November 02, 2006, 01:29:51 pm
It has to be only a matter of time before emerson leaves the gnac. Academically they are so far beyond the rest of the teams in their conference. And with Lasell and Mt. Ida coming in, within the next couple of years it wouldn't be surprising to see them go. Possibly to the newmac or ccc
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: heythere on November 02, 2006, 08:30:37 pm
It's too far of a stretch to put JWu in 7th or 8th place.  You have to believe that they anticipated losing Bannister, Moran, and Fernandes - and recruited accordingly.  I'd hold off on that pick until after the first round of confernce play. 

i Dont think its a stretch to put jw them at the bottom, in coach benton 3 years there they have gotten worse each year from 21 to 15 and last year 12 wins. the 3 seniors last year werent even his recurits.  so i would expect the same results this year with another so so freshmen class.

emerson has to be looking to leave the gnac. and remember they have 9 teams now with wnec leaving and 3 coming in next year that give them 11. so maybe emerson also leaves to give the gnac 10.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on November 03, 2006, 11:41:07 am
Emmanuel has its roster up. Looks as if Tolliver Thomas has not come back, and that he most likely will not be there for second semester. Everyone else returns. No knew big guys really, a couple guards that I dont know much about.

Im sure emmanuel will be good, but it seems as if in the playoffs they tend to get beat. Norwich is one tough team, Coach Booth up in Vt. always gets them to play hard and the right way. And emerson should be pretty good as always. In looking at their first semester games, they have a pretty tough schedule, so we will see.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on November 03, 2006, 09:36:49 pm
It would make sense based on academics that Emerson would leave the GNAC, but overall our programs haven't had a lot of success which makes a move more difficult. In team sports (aside from men's hoops) Emerson hasn't won any GNAC titles.

It's true academically that Emerson doesn't match up. Based on specialized majors and admissions standards, Emerson is a NEWMAC school....now that we have improved facilities the other programs will need to establish a track record of success like EC hoops....and then we will be a fit for the NEWMAC or similar conference.

Emerson takes on Gordon tomorrow at the brand new Lions Den in pre-season scrimmage action. I hope to get there for a report.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on November 05, 2006, 09:00:56 pm
any word on the gordon-emerson scrimmage?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Maq Diesel on November 05, 2006, 09:46:41 pm
I heard that Gordon won by 23 and that they played pretty sloppy basketball.  I didn't see the game first hand that is just what I heard.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: JAYHOVA on November 07, 2006, 12:51:31 am
I believe Gordon won by around 10pts, both teams looked sloppy but have great upside. I don’t think anyone wants to play these teams. Emerson had spurts of greatness, if they fix a few defensive rotations and make their offense crisp they should be “real, real” hard to stop. They have experience and some real good recruits. They should win the GNAC.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: heythere on November 07, 2006, 10:05:19 am
Emerson is good and they do play hard but i wouldnt give them the gnac title. norwich and emmanuel have to be the favorites.

emmanuel 17-1 in conference last year
norwich- 2 ncaa tourneys in a row
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on November 07, 2006, 08:46:53 pm
I don't see emmanuel or norwich being favored *over* Emerson.....I think it's pretty clear that those are the best 3 teams in the conference. The lions have been in the GNAC tournament finals 8 times in 11 seasons the conference has been in existence...it's far too early to say who's going to be where in february, but there's a very good track record there. Let's face it...if these 3 teams stay healthy they are probably making up 3/4 of the semis pairings. Whoever wins the reg season title and gets home court for the tourney gains a major edge....the 1 seed home advantage is always a big boost and helps the home team get over the top.

It should be a fun season. emmanuel will certainly be good again as most of there players will be back and norwich will be strong as well. each of the teams has lost an impact player (georgoulis - emerson, hensley - norwich, and thomas - emmanuel.) Whichever team can overcome key player loss will have an edge.

The questions that are hanging out there are who will be the new impact players in the conference. they will help shape the middle of the pack and challenge the top 3 teams from last season.

Emerson did have a good recruiting class to go along with all but 2 of the players that made the GNAC finals over the last 2 seasons.

does anyone have info regarding other newcomers for the other teams?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: JAYHOVA on November 10, 2006, 09:55:49 pm
Emerson looked great today...beat up on Southern Maine by 35.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: heythere on November 11, 2006, 12:27:11 am
How did you do today #11. 35 pts sounds impressive, you guys should carry that into the season. good defense and playing hard is the reason emerson will always win games
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 11, 2006, 12:51:04 pm
Emerson looked great today...beat up on Southern Maine by 35.

You can't change your e-mail address to something fake. The system is smarter than that.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on November 11, 2006, 04:57:17 pm
35 points does sound impressive.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on November 17, 2006, 10:58:50 am
Lions are hitting the road to play in the NYU tip-off tourney vs. Moravian (PA) Greyhounds and the Violets will draw Alfred. Should be a good weekend...

Does anyone have anything on their team's opening weekend?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on November 18, 2006, 07:21:55 pm
Emerson 85, Moravian 81 from the NYU tournament.

Will Dawkins scored 15 of his 21 points after intermission, including the go-ahead three-pointer with 5:30 remaining. Freshman center Bryan Rouse scored a game-high 22 points while freshman guard Jeremy Shannon scored 13 points, dished out six assists and swiped five steals for the Lions.

Emerson takes on NYU in the tourney final tomorrow at 3.

Go Lions!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 20, 2006, 09:12:37 am

I heard about Rouse during the recruiting period last year.  I never knew where he went.  That's a good get.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on November 20, 2006, 10:56:24 am
Yes, I heard a lot about Rouse as well. But, did I just read Jeremy Shannon, I believe who was on Central Catholic when they went to the Fleetcenter, and who played on BABC. That is a major plus for Emerson, rumor had it that he was a scholarship player out of highschool.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on November 20, 2006, 11:50:59 am
Emerson lost a tough one yesterday, 63-49 at NYU, but the Lions did force 30 Violet turnovers.

The Lions travel to NEWMAC foe Babson tomorrow night to face the Beavers. 8 days until the Emerson home opener.

Rouse and Shannon should be pretty good....certainly important recruits for Emerson.

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: heythere on November 20, 2006, 11:58:44 am
maybe i was wrong about emmanuel, looks like they lost two this weekend and the schedule doesnt get easier with amherst, @suffolk, wesleyan, and @wnec. Looks like losing toliver really hurt.

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on November 20, 2006, 02:47:19 pm
I think it's too early for Emmanuel to panic after 2 games....they have lost some players and it will take them some time to define roles.

Once they do, I'm sure they'll start winning soon enough.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: JamIt on November 21, 2006, 07:45:35 pm
Here's a question for all GNAC fans.....Will Riv Coach Morrisette lose more games or players this year?????? 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on November 28, 2006, 09:14:33 am
Emerson hosts UMass Boston tonight - it's the very first game at Emerson's new gym.

7 PM tip at 150 Boylston (Boylston T stop on the green line) for anyone that wants to check it out.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on November 28, 2006, 10:38:34 pm
Lions 85 UMB 62

Emerson raced out to a 17 point lead at the half and kept the Beacons at bay in the 2nd half.

Bryan Rouse scored 23 and Will Dawkins added 16 - great D by the Lions helped even their record at 2-2.

A great 1st home game at the Lions Den.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 29, 2006, 09:32:26 am

Emerson's been quite impressive in the early going.  Perhaps actually having a gym will be the boost they need to succeed.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on November 29, 2006, 01:40:29 pm
Yes they have been impressive. It might look as if the class of the GNAC may be Emerson and WNEC. WHat happened with Norwich only scoring 36 against wnec. And emmauel is not off to a great start. Anyone actually see the emerson game, just wondering how the new gym is and the atmosphere?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 29, 2006, 02:27:02 pm

I haven't seen it, but a friend of mine works for the school and says it's really amazing what they were able to do with the space they had.  I haven't talked to him since they started playing basketball there, but he said it was a great atmosphere for volleyball.  The pictures I've seen on the Emerson website don't show much seating, but it appears designed to amplify sound really well and the stands are pretty close to the floor.

It's gotta be better than what had before, no matter what it's like.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on November 30, 2006, 10:36:29 am
I was at the Emerson - UMB game. The new gym is fantastic. The seats are right on top of the action and there's a skybox for VIP seating too - no seat licences though  ;)

The sound system is phenomenal - we had one small speaker on the side opposite the crowd at Pine Manor and now there's 8 massive speakers overhead. We had a great crowd on Tuesday and the Lions really played well - tight D and a lot of movement and passing on offense.

Emerson is at Wheaton tonight and home on Saturday vs. Southern Vermont at 1PM at the Lions Den.

I still think it's too early to say which teams are going to be at the top and who will struggle. Personally, I'd like to see teams get into the conference schedule before making an opinion - I know that there have been many years where Emerson would struggle in non-conference play and be near the top of the conference (3-4-5) only to come on in February and make the tourney finals. We'll get more evidence as the season rolls along.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 30, 2006, 09:32:28 pm
What's the name of the gym and its seating capacity?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 02, 2006, 02:06:05 pm
What's the name of the gym and its seating capacity?


Piano Row Gymnasium.  I don't know the official capacity.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on December 03, 2006, 02:34:13 am
How about a suffolk win over Emmanuel huh. Looks like Emmanuel is down this year. I have heard rumors that WNEC is pretty good, anyone know anything. I see they beat a 5-0 westfield team today. And Dweb beats Albertus, maybe for the first time in  a while Dweb makes the playoffs huh. Emerson also crushes S. VT. They continue to seem pretty good.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Coxtie Green on December 03, 2006, 10:18:30 am
What's the name of the gym and its seating capacity?


Piano Row Gymnasium.  I don't know the official capacity.

I don't know the official capacity either but they must have had 400+ for their opener and there wasn't an empty seat in the house.
Title: Why is Emerson basketball so good?
Post by: Worse than Alex Tse on December 05, 2006, 10:56:40 am
Probobly because they still beat legit teams with a line up that has four guys under 6' 2''. I cant describe it. It's awesome to watch
Title: Re: Why is Emerson basketball so good?
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 05, 2006, 01:46:16 pm

Over/under on how long this board stays up?
Title: Re: Why is Emerson basketball so good?
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 05, 2006, 02:17:24 pm
Under an hour!  We can merge it into the GNAC board for further discussion by the fans of the institutional peers. ;)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on December 09, 2006, 05:37:51 pm
How about Freshman Bryan Rouse for Emerson with 56 points, huh. Given it was against Daniel Webster, but still...EC could me a contender this year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on December 09, 2006, 09:49:29 pm
Rouse was 24-31 from the field, hit 8 FT's and grabbed 11 rebounds. Bryan scored 15 of Emerson's 1st 20 and had 36 at the half. It was a dominating performance - Rouse set the school and I believe the conference record for most points in a game vs. a conference opponent.

Lions face MIT on Tuesday in Cambridge to close out the semester.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on December 12, 2006, 12:28:09 pm
Conference standings at the break.  Any thoughts?  I would assume Emmanuel and Norwich will creep up there, but the top 4 look pretty strong so far this year. 

 Western New Eng.             2 0
 Suffolk                                2 0 
 Emerson                            1 0 
 Johnson & Wales               1 0 
 Daniel Webster                  1 1 
 Norwich                              1 1
 Rivier                                  0 2 
 Emmanuel                          0 2
 Albertus Magnus                0 2
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on December 12, 2006, 02:55:33 pm
What do you mean by the "Top 4". These conference standings cant say much about the actual teams, you must look at the overall records for now and the level of competition they have faced. I would have to assume that WNEC is very good with their tough schedule they have faced. Emerson seems to be in second, then it is kind of up in the air.

My predcition

1. Wnec
2. Emerson
3. Norwich
4. Emmanuel
5. JWU
6. Rivier
7. Suffolk
8. Daniel Webster
9. Albertus
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 12, 2006, 03:10:19 pm

If Daniel Webster is better than anybody, the whole world will crumble.  DWC stinks this year.  I may actually fly in for the DWC-Albertus game just to see the worst D3 basketball game of all time.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on December 12, 2006, 03:12:49 pm
Ok, here are my predictions....

Emerson
WNEC
Norwich
Emmanuel
Suffolk
JWU
Rivier
DWC
ALB

I think Emerson will win it.  Really good frosh.  Other than that, the only major difference is Suffolk.  They beat Riv @ Riv this weekend, so I give them the advantage (+ they already beat Emmanuel).  Other than that, it' s the same top 4 as last year.  JWU was 5 last yr - 6 this year (swap with SU).  Riv should be way better than DWC and ALB who will fight for the 8th spot.  Should be an interesting 2nd semester.  Maybe Emmanuel will rip off a bunch in a row! Also, watch out for Norwich........
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on December 12, 2006, 05:24:36 pm
I think it's still a bit early for conference predictions. Sometimes it takes teams a while to gel especially when they have lost key players. I don't think record is always an indicator of how well a team is or isn't playing. I think it's important to see the teams in action before making such a call.  Also, don't forget that teams might add or lose players at the break which could have an impact either way.

The top 4 are still Norwich, Emerson, Emmanuel and WNEC - for now. The Saints haven't won a game but they have played a tough non-conference schedule and they are most likely adjusting to the loss of Thomas. Bayne's return has buoyed WNEC and Rouse/Shannon have been key additions for Emerson. Once teams rev up again after break we'll get into the conference schedule and get an idea of how teams will compete in conference play and who matches up best (or worst) with whom.

Emerson @ MIT tonight to close the semester. If the Lions win, that'll be 3 in a row going into break.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: heythere on December 12, 2006, 08:22:05 pm
dont know how everyone keeps saying emmanuel is good, they havent won a game and there 0-2 in the gnac. seems like they have major probelms without thomas. it also seems like norwich hasnt adjusted well with losing there pg last year. and the riv always has talent and never does anything with it. so here is my predections
1. wnec- bayne looks pretty good and big wins vs mit, westfield st
2. emerson- frosh scoring 56 pts and they always play hard
3. Norwhich- there down but not out conf champs
4. suffolk- beat emmanuel and riv
5. emmanuel-
6. Riv- they have alot of talent
7. j&w-
8. dwc- they will beat alb twice
9. alb-
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on December 13, 2006, 11:10:49 am
Caught part of the Emerson-MIT game yesterday. It was a sloppy game in my opinion, at least on emersons part. MIT seemed to have them well scouted, and emerson seemed not to respond. MIT took advantage of the size difference by posting the guards and lobbing it over, which emerson did nothing to counter (probably needed more ball pressure). The guards for emerson did not seemed disciplined on defense either, constantly getting beat, going for steals and losing their man. However, I give Emerson credit, all this bad play and they could have easily won the game. From what the record show, Emerson has lost to Babson, NYU, Wheaton and MIT. Those are all solid teams, in a good conference. If emerson wants to be in the upper echlon they must beat some of those teams.

With all this being said, I still believe Emerson will be there come February.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: emmanuelfan on December 13, 2006, 12:15:09 pm
Where is SVC in the mix...oh yeah they were thrown out of the conference LOL. Too bad ...they would of given some teams a run.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: crazyecbballfan823 on December 17, 2006, 02:45:50 pm
I think that everyone is jumping too quickly to the assumption that Emmanuel is not going to be good this year. They have struggled a little bit this semester with the loss of a key player but by no means does that put them down and out. There is a lot of talent on that team and they have a great coaching staff. Norwich had more than 2 GNAC losses last season and they still pulled through and won the entire conference, who says Emmanuel can't do the same? I think that next semester is going to be a completely different story for the Saints.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: JamIt on December 19, 2006, 08:39:38 pm
Hey There hit it on the head with Riv.  They historically have incredible talent but "don't know what to do with it.  That clearly is a coaching issue.   The Riv Assistant Coach should take over the Head Coach position and the Head Coach should.....well the head coach should just count how many winning seasons he's had and realize it's time to turn the team over to someone who knows something about coaching.  Just a thought!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Worse than Alex Tse on December 22, 2006, 12:18:59 am
When will Hank Smith run for president? Who would vote for him?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: crazyecbballfan823 on December 30, 2006, 01:00:23 am
Emmanuel's losing streak is officially over! They beat DII Northwood University Florida tonight 56-54! I think that this is the official turn around for the Saints... any one else?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on December 31, 2006, 05:03:44 pm
Can anyone explain how Emmanuel beats a pretty good NAIA team with two seven footers and then looses to a 3-8 team?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: crazyecbballfan823 on January 03, 2007, 12:52:58 am
two of there big men got into foul trouble which always hurt the Saints
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: phoenix2099 on January 05, 2007, 10:26:24 pm
Can anyone explain how Emmanuel beats a pretty good NAIA team with two seven footers and then looses to a 3-8 team?
"And then looses to a 3-8 team?"

If you are referring to the 8-4 Olivet Nazareth team they lost too, it may have something to do with th scholarships they can give to their players, as they are an NAIA D1 school.

Honest mistake, I am sure. Coaches all over the country were impressed still with Emmanuel's play in Florida. Whenever a team holds a team with a future Hall of Fame coach, with a team that averages almost 100 points a game to less than 60, it has to turn heads.

Watch out for Emmanuel this coming semester- the board is quick to forget the 17 game win streak the Saints had last year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on January 10, 2007, 09:47:24 am
Interesting night in the GNAC.........
Emerson played without Shannon and Suffolk played without Murphy.  Does anyone know what the deal is with either of them?  That hurts both teams a lot if those guys are out.  Shannon was pretty good from what I had seen, and Murphy is a first team all-conference kid.
Also, nice to see Norwich get revenge on SVC for an earlier loss and JWU upset Conn. College  :D.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on January 12, 2007, 05:33:08 am
Lions beat Albertus last night 75-70....back on track.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on January 12, 2007, 10:10:24 am
A win, is a win. But I dont know if you could say beating Albertus by 5 is exactly back on track. What is going on with EC? I understand Shannon is out, but is it really that big of a blow?

The GNAC seems pretty up in the air this year, except for WNEC maybe. How about Riv on a two game win streak beating both of the teams in the championship from last year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on January 13, 2007, 09:03:38 pm
Yes, not having Shannon is a big deal for Emerson. He's one of the best guards in the league - he should be back on Monday vs. JW and that will undoubtedly help us.

Emmanuel 96-70 over Suffolk....saints look like they are warming up and Riv gets 3rd GNAC win this week.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: heythere on January 14, 2007, 01:31:02 pm
could be riv best week in years, they must be playin real. wouldnt say emmanuel is warming up they beat suffolk without murphy.

norwich is having major probelms this year, seems like they are really missing there pg from last year
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on January 15, 2007, 05:11:20 pm
Riv wins for the 4th time this week - 64 to 60 over WNEC. I saw Riv beat Emerson in a hard fought game - Riv has the talent, looks like they are learning how to win.

Lions up 20 at J & W so they'll pick up a win as well.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on January 16, 2007, 10:58:02 pm
Big show down on thursday. Emerson vs. Western New England
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: crazyecbballfan823 on January 17, 2007, 11:30:19 pm
Emmanuel beat Rivier tonight 69-67! I would say that Emmanuel is definitely warming up!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: phoenix2099 on January 18, 2007, 01:35:56 am
They are definitely warming up, especially after being down 6 at half, and being down as much as 11 during the game.

This Saints team has shown that they can win and close out the close game, even against the toughest of opponents. The rest of the year looks to be a complete turn-around from a dismal first semester. The contest against the tough Salem State team on Thursday should show some more of what Emmanuel has to offer, seeing as how the MASCAC is a superior conference when compared to the GNAC.  If the Saints can continue their impressive after Christmas swing, the rest of the conference match-ups should not be an issue for them.

Keep and eye out
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on January 18, 2007, 12:01:00 pm
I agree on some part that Emmanuel is playing better, but they have not yet closed out tough opponents. They have yet to beat WNEC, they have not played Emerson, or Norwich. Yes Rivier is a good win, but the likelihood that Riv. is in the top 5 at the end of the year is unlikely. And from what I can understand if it wasn't for Emerson's frosh. PG being out, they would have never lost to Riv, and would be undefeated.

Nothing against Emmanuel, I feel they can be very good, but tonight they will be playing a very good Salem team. I expect a 20 pt. win for Salem.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on January 18, 2007, 01:35:03 pm
Why would you say that its unlikely that Rivier won't be in the top 5 by season's end? Riv has posted quality wins vs. WNEC and at Emerson and Norwich. At this point the only team that will challenge Riv for the 5 spot is Norwich - otherwise Riv will be 5th  worse case and could challenge for 4th or better. They are clearly playing better than the last few seasons and have a chance to win every night in conference.

WNEC @ Emerson tonight at 7....should be a good one - can't wait!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on January 18, 2007, 09:06:13 pm
Emerson 53, WNEC 51 in a real grind-it-out affair in Boston.

Bryan Rouse had 12 including a couple of key baskets late and Matt Maynard missed a 30-ft three (not a clean look either) at the buzzer which allowed the Lions to hold on for the W.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on January 19, 2007, 11:13:09 am
Im not sure who fixes this, but the GNAC standings are incorrect. WNEC is now 5-2 and Emerson is now 4-1.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 19, 2007, 08:47:22 pm
The schools put their own games in. We kind of assume the schools themselves know what's a conference game and what isn't. All we do is pull GNAC standings from the GNAC Web site, basically.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: JamIt on January 21, 2007, 09:44:30 am
Riv is finally playing like a team and showing the talent they have.  To answer goldenpipes question as to why it is "unlikely that Riv will be will be in the top 5" is for one reason and one reason only.  THEY HAVE THE SAME HEAD COACH AS ALWAYS AND HE DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO WIN GAMES.  Kudos to the players for having a fantastic week...the credit belongs to them.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on January 21, 2007, 07:54:04 pm
How bout D.Webb beats Suffolk. That must be pretty embarrasing.

The GNAC seems pretty up in the air this year. WNEC lost to Emerson, then Emerson loses to Norwich, Norwich hasn't beaten anyone. Emmanuel is up and down, and Riv. had a great win streak.

Teams dont seem consisten enough to predict really.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on January 23, 2007, 10:46:38 pm
Lions top Suffolk 77-72 at Suffolk in a physical affair. Rouse scored 29 and Dawkins added 15 and 13 rebounds to pace Emerson.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Worse than Alex Tse on January 26, 2007, 12:06:44 am
Emmanuel vs Emerson at emerson. Hank Smith is a god. Come and see
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on January 27, 2007, 06:11:31 pm
Emerson 84, Emmanuel 76 - AT Emmanuel. There was a site change to a pipe burst at Piano Row, so the game was changed to the Yawkey Center today.

Bryan Rouse had 28, Alfredo Tovar 16 and 11 apiece from Dawkins and Shannon for the Lions. Great effort from Joe Boylan and Will Sagar.

Lions @ Riv Tuesday night.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Worse than Alex Tse on January 29, 2007, 12:55:32 pm
I heard an unsubstantiated rumor that an unknown Rivier player hit the coach in the face and was expelled. Can anyone confirm or deny this? And if so, who was it???
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: CCsalive on January 30, 2007, 02:37:18 pm
Jeffrook- why an unfortunate picture? The guy is an animal (who shoots too many threes). He's probably wrestled cows in Minnesota.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 30, 2007, 02:59:58 pm
No cows in Bloomington, unless they're in the Mall of America. Bloomington is a Minneapolis suburb, and a large one at that.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 30, 2007, 03:09:42 pm
No cows in Bloomington, unless they're in the Mall of America.

Don't underestimate "the Greatest Attraction in America's Heartland"
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on January 30, 2007, 03:22:16 pm
What did I miss?  Who wrestled a cow???
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 30, 2007, 06:06:35 pm

Never underestimate the abilities of Coppenwrath!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on January 31, 2007, 12:33:59 pm
Whats up with Emerson getting sweeped by Rivier this year. Must be dissapointing. In watching EC, they always seem to play hard, however down the stretch they sometimes do not either come up with the defensive stop they need or make a mistake in some other area. However, they work hard enough all around that they can beat anybody on any given night. For ex. they beat WNEC, and Emmanuel, but lost to Riv.

Should be some interesting weeks in the GNAC coming up.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Worse than Alex Tse on January 31, 2007, 03:53:40 pm
Look it up, Ron Burgandy/Scott Mcgowan/Superman for GNAC MVP. Anyone think someone else is better? How good is Ron Burgandy????? S-U-P-A!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: JamIt on February 01, 2007, 08:55:19 pm
In response to the question about a Riv player hitting the coach in the face?  I'd like to know who did it too so I can shake his hand.  It was long over due.  I'm not one to believe in violence but if anyone deserved to be clocked it's the Riv coach and I'm guessing all players past and present were grateful. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 02, 2007, 12:43:30 pm
IF it happened.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 03, 2007, 10:41:34 pm
Norwich-Emmanuel 1 point game - any details?

Emerson 75 JW 72 from Pine Manor - Emerson @ WNEC Tuesday night in springfield...should be a good one.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: crazyecbballfan823 on February 04, 2007, 05:28:47 pm
The Norwich-Emmanuel game game down to one shot by Emmanuel and they missed. It was a good game, and a good effort by both teams!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Worse than Alex Tse on February 06, 2007, 11:42:10 am
Where do we vote for coach of the year? Better yet, where do we vote for best coach ever, in the GNAC?  Everyone knows who it is too.....Hank Smith
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: JamIt on February 06, 2007, 08:59:17 pm
A huge congrats to John McMahon for breaking the Riv scoring record.  Lots of hard work paid off.  Great Job John.  Wish I was their to see it happen.

And a huge congrats to Coach Morrisette for finding yet another way to lose a game.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: purplepde on February 07, 2007, 12:31:48 am
My Lions lost a tough one tonight without the big man.  Coach will get them back.  The GNAC is up for grabs.   WNEC looks like they are heading into the playoffs strong.

It looks like Riv, Norwich and Emmanuel will also be in there.  Say whatever you want but Riv has been real impressive even though they lost tonight.  You have to give coach Morrisete some credit they have been strong all year.  4-0 vs Emerson/Norwich 1-1 vs WNEC.  He isn't my favorite coach but he is doing something right. 

Emmanuel has underachieved all year and now they look like the team they were last year. Norwich is in the same boat started off slow but they are coming on.

Should be a good finish and I'm predicting right now Emerson will go into WNEC and take the GNAC title in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on February 07, 2007, 08:41:46 am
Saw the emmanuel game. Man, do I love their gym. Anyways, Riv. does look better this year, more under control, and taking better shots, and playing harder. It will be interesting to see how they do come playoff time. Emman. still will be ok with the amount of talent they have. It will help if Simpson isn't out too. WNEC by 22, looks like they may have it wrapped up.
 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: JamIt on February 08, 2007, 09:45:02 pm
With all due respect Purplepde, I am a firm believer in giving credit where credit is due but in this case there is no credit due Morrisette.  The credit belongs to his Asst. Coaches and the players who have finally figured out how to play as a team in spite of Morrisette who is getting a free ride to the play-offs. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: The Den Dweller on February 13, 2007, 03:06:32 am
I would automatically put Hank Smith in the front running for GNAC coach of the year... not only is he a great coach, he is one of the best sideline characters in basketball
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 13, 2007, 09:11:46 pm
Emerson 86 Suffolk 67 from the Lions Den.

The Lions returned home to Piano Row and posted a 19 point win over the Rams. Emerson had a balanced scoring attack paced by 21 from Alfredo Tovar and 15 from Joe Boylan.

Emerson clinches 2nd place in the GNAC and will host a quarterfinal tournament game on Tuesday the 20th.

Regular season closes with Emmanuel at Piano Row on Saturday at 1PM.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on February 15, 2007, 12:18:38 pm
Whats the projected matchups for the playoffs?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Paul Heering on February 15, 2007, 02:50:55 pm
looks like

1--WNEC*
2--Emerson*
3--Rivier (assuming they beal albertus)
4--Norwich (assuming they beat suffolk)
5 & 6 --Emmanual (assuming they lose to emerson) and Johnson and wales (assuming they beat DWC and albertus) would both be 8-8 and have split this year.  no clue what tiebreaker is
7--Suffolk (assuming they lose to norwich)
8--Albertus*

* = locked in
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 17, 2007, 03:16:45 pm
Emerson 73, Emmanuel 68 from the Lions Den in Boston.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: JamIt on February 20, 2007, 11:03:23 pm
Congratulations to Riv in beating J&W tonite in an incredible game that was won in overtime.  Riv took the first half with some incredible shooting and great defense.
The second half was J&W's as they came out in the second half ready to play. 
John McMahon single handedly saved the game by putting the game into overtime and then scoring at least half of the overtime points.  He wasn't letting his college career end just yet.  As per usual Morrisette was outcoached yet again but thanks to the Raiders and John McMahon they were not out-played.  Can't wait to see them beat Suffolk on Thursday!!! 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on February 20, 2007, 11:57:36 pm
Wow Suffolk beats Emerson. Interesting year in the GNAC. Emmanuel beat NU too. Both teams from the last two years finals are gone. Should be interesting.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: JamIt on February 22, 2007, 10:37:36 pm
Another night of excitement at Riv.  Congrats once again to an incredible game.  Contributions were made by all.  Special congrats to Chris G for some unbelievable defense  and a key steal in the 2nd half which helped turn the game around.  Also huge congrats to Jeff Carpenter for not only helping Riv move on to the finals with his always consistent play but for achieving his 1000 point tonite.  Great timing Jeff!!!  And who put on a better show than Danny Ford with some incredible dunks at just the right time and a blocked shot that definitely turned things around.  And as always "The Finisher" John McMahon once again brought it home for Riv. You guys are awesome and thanks so much for giving us all an incredible night. 

What would a Jamit post be without a comment on  Morrisette??  Well because this nite was so special I have decided to use the old adage of "if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all".  Therefore I won't say anything at all about him. (WINK)

Can't wait until Saturday to see history in the making at Riv.  GOOD LUCK GUYS!!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: d3bballinboston on February 23, 2007, 07:50:48 am
wow a team other than the rivier volleyball teams might make the ncaa tourney.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: crazyecbballfan823 on February 23, 2007, 10:10:26 am
Emmanuel beat WNEC last night 71 - 62! This is the farthest that an Emmanuel Men's Basketball team has gone since the program began in 2001! The finals on Saturday at Riv will be a great game for sure! So much for those people who thought that Emmanuel was down and out... looks like they will be making history this season afterall. First the GNACs then NCAAs!!!  ;D
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 24, 2007, 03:51:36 pm
Looks like Riv won the GNAC - congrats to Coach M and the Raiders. Good luck in the NCAA's.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: JamIt on February 24, 2007, 10:10:17 pm
Great work Riv in winning the GNAC Title.  You guys were incredible.  Seniors John McMahon and Chris Giordano went out in style by leading their team thru the play-offs and also by making the All Tourney Team.  Geat work guys, we are all proud of you.  The Raiders found success against all odds and all their critics have been humbled. 

Morrisette didn't disappoint us either.  He was outcoached yet again.  Oh by the way Morrisette, Letterman called and wanted you to send him some material.  He's creating a Top Ten List of "How many ways can a coach lose a game". 

Lastly, on behalf of all your fans Raiders, thanks for all the incredible memories and for an incredible ride.  Good Luck in the NCAA Tourney.  Wow that even sounds great doesn't it??
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: diehardfan on March 01, 2007, 06:57:40 pm
Hey peoples, we're collecting previews for each team in the tourney on one of the multiregional boards. If I get them by Friday I may even be able to stick them in one document for people to peruse. A fun little tourney resource of sorts. Would someone here be willing to do one for Rivier? Thanks much!

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=5147.0

Incidentally, I saw Rivier play in NY in December... as one of the few teams from the NE that I've seen, I'll be cheering you guys on in the Tourney! Good luck! :)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: JamIt on March 01, 2007, 11:08:55 pm
Sorry to hear Riv lost at Keene tonite.  You guys had an incredible year and should be so proud.  I know all of us are proud of you.  Again, thanks for a great year and some wonderful memories.

Shame on you Morrisette for giving your Senior Captains only a few minutes of play in their last college game.  But it shouldn't surprise anyone.  Those seniors as well as the rest of your team carried you to the playoffs and you couldn't even show enough respect to give them the minutes they deserved.  The players and the Asst Coaches deserved the GNAC Title but you without a doubt DID NOT!!! 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 05, 2007, 02:13:13 am
Man -- your life must be really depressing if you have to come around and bang that drum all the time. What a sad, sad year, going 20-9. How awful for you.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: MeOak21 on March 05, 2007, 05:03:45 pm
Pat- do you get a little bit cranky in the early morning hours?

I won't address the comments about Coach Morrisette except to say that coaching is a hard job. Many times, the head coach isn't even responsible for making substitutions. That is why the assistant coaches are there... to assist in decision making processes during the game. I'll admit however, that I'm not in the loop in this situation.

I believe I read an article after the game where a Rivier player was quoted saying he was "starstruck" by some of the Keene players and their performance in the game. I don't feel like looking it up but I'm sure you could find that article with a little effort.

Rivier had a good season but to expect them to excel outside of the conference and especially in NCAA play might be asking too much this year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 05, 2007, 11:03:49 pm
Pat- do you get a little bit cranky in the early morning hours?

I just get tired of faceless people who hide behind freebie e-mail addresses grinding their axes over and over.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: MeOak21 on March 06, 2007, 11:50:46 am
Ahhh, I see...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: JamIt on March 08, 2007, 09:55:47 pm
Sorry "PAT"...Didn't mean to offend or annoy you but last I heard, message boards were for opinions and comments and that's what I used my time for.  Sorry my opinions don't agree with yours but that's what makes these message boards interesting...not everyone has the same opinion.   Truth of the matter is that anyone who knows Riv basketball agreed and applauded me.  Go figure!!!  I also find it interesting that you waited until the season was over before showing your "opinions".   
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 08, 2007, 11:57:29 pm
The minus-3 karma, on a very slow board, suggests nobody actually applauding you.

And I'm sorry --  the GNAC board isn't on my everyday beat, since it's basically home to whiners and not much else.

Sure, boards are for comments. And if you have a problem getting called on yours then you shouldn't be on one.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: JamIt on March 09, 2007, 06:23:42 pm
Not sure what your beef with my comments are "Pat".   I am flattered that my opinions made you feel that you needed to become one of those that you so eloquently described as "whiners".  At least my comments and opinions were directed at basketball and not at someone's postings.  Not sure who made you master of the postings but your futile attempt to defend and protect Morrisette will most definitely fall on deaf ears all over Nashua and beyond.   Finally, I apologize if I annoyed or offended you with my comments but again, this board is created for comments and opinions on GNAC basketball and that's exactly what I contributed.  I didn't post to entertain, although I've been told by many that I did just that!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: creekhoops on March 10, 2007, 08:03:06 am
FYI - Pat IS the master of this posting board, since he does own the site.  That's just like telling Robert Kraft "I don't know who made YOU owner of Gillette stadium, so I'm bringing my OWN beer inside..." - when he actually is the owner.

Just for kicks, I tried that logic this morning at McDonalds.  I went in and walked back behind the counter, and started making myself a mcMuffin.  The manager (I guess she was the manager because she had on a different shirt) said "excuse me, sir, but you can't be back here."  I immediately pulled out my JamIt logic, and said "Hey - I don't know who put YOU in charge back here, lady - OK? So I'm gonna make by damned sandwich and you will like it!"  Needless to say, nobody would tell me where to get the eggs, so that didn't work out too well.

And since there seems to be a lack of interest in creating ANOTHER site for posters of GNAC interest, I'd say Mr. Coleman  pretty much has the market cornered, thus giving him the power to criticize any post he so chooses.  It has been fun to read, though.  It's like you pissed off the Principal or something.  Now he knows your name, though.  Uh ohh...

Despite all of the Morrisstte bashing over the years, the little school in Nashua finally got theirs.  And, if we are willing to criticize DM, we have to be men enough to give the man credit for capturing a title.  Or, at least, for putting the team together that DID capture the title.  The Raiders didn't coach temselves, man. You can't have it both ways.  Who won coach of the year, by the way?  Was it DM?  That's not an automatic award - that must be voted upon by his peers.  Just curious to see how that went down.  More importantly, how does the GNAC change next year?  Is the conference expanding or not?  Will teams stop playing Southern Vermont now that they are out?  How will the new teams impact the haves and have nots of the GNAC?  When will Johnson & Wales be one of the "haves" again?  What the hell happened to my hair line?  Are Hall & Oats really making a comeback?  C'mon, people - lets start addressing these important issues!  and one more thing:  QTIP.  (Quit taking it personally, man).
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Paul Heering on March 10, 2007, 04:24:51 pm
in addition so what creekhoops said (which i agree with), i have never seen pat jump on anyone for expressing an opinion, i think the reason he said something here was, JamIt and others have continually bashed the rivier coach, i don't know anything about riv hoops or the coach, but i get it, you dont' think he is a good coach.  no need to post it EVERY TIME something happens with riv hoops, we got it, you don't like him.  you mentioned that before, let it go.

As for creekhoops question of "how does the GNAC change next year?"  one quick answer is the teams are changing  Lassell, Mount Ida, and St. Joe's (maine) are in and WNEC is out (going to CCC).
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: JamIt on March 10, 2007, 07:55:21 pm
First let me say that I was very entertained by creekhoops comments which is what posting boards are about.   Although I'm not quite sure why the MacDonalds story was told.   I suppose there should be some rules and regulations stated upfront so that people such as I would know what makes you gentlemen happy and what doesn't.  It's interesting to me that no comment was made how I continuously congratulated the players with each post along with the assistant coaches (because I am aware that every team has to be coached), but instead I was reprimanded for continuously making negative comments about "DM".  Opinions are opinions and those are mine.   For the record I have in the past commended "DM" for one thing, he is very good at recruiting players.  Unfortunately he doesn't know what to do with them once he gets them.  He should stay at Riv and continue to recruit and leave the coaching up to the Assistants. And Creekhoops I appreciate your comments explaining to me who the almightly "PAT" is but frankly I don't really care.  And even if I knew who he was my comments and opinions wouldn't change. 

If this message board is in fact only for factual information then I do apologize for posting my opinions.  Although I'm thinking Mr. Coleman's comments were not factual but his opinions so it sounds like there is a double standard going on here.

Either way, our communications have been fun and entertaining for sure.  Thanks to all of you for trying to help me see the proper posting procedures. :)  And Pat?  Your importance as the keeper of the board is duly noted.  Take care.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: creekhoops on March 10, 2007, 11:16:13 pm
Jamit has indeed given props to the players.  And you know what?  He does care about the program up at Rivier.  That's a whole lot more than most posters on this conference board can say.  A lot of people didn't like Chuck Amato at NC State.  We read about that all of the time down here.  Eventually, the boosters got their way.  But for what it's worth...look at the GNAC.  Your Deans are Hank Smith, Booth up at Norwich,  the guy down at Magnus, and Dave Morrissette.  They've been there since day one, or at least for the longest time.  Having done three years there myself with J&W, I know I came and went. Now I'm back at square one, coaching high school ball and loving every minute of it.  But they are still there. They are steadfast. Granted,  DM and I didn't always get along, but you know what?  I realized that he is a good man.  He's a good father, and a loyal husband.  Sure, some players may not like him.  I know many who didn't like me.  But we have one thing in common now - we both won that conference, once upon a time.  In the very least, the man is a winner.  That can't be taken away.  I still have a little piece of nylon  stashed away - a piece of net to remind me of how it felt to win that conference championship.  I brought it to our conference championship three weeks ago and showed my kids - my new team out here in the sticks who never won squat before.  It aint a NESCAC net, or a NEWMAC net.  It may only be a GNAC net.  But it may as well have been an ACC net to those kids that night. I know Dave has his, too.  The question is ...Who's next?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 11, 2007, 12:41:51 pm
I suppose there should be some rules and regulations stated upfront so that people such as I would know what makes you gentlemen happy and what doesn't.  ... And Creekhoops I appreciate your comments explaining to me who the almightly "PAT" is but frankly I don't really care.  And even if I knew who he was my comments and opinions wouldn't change. 

If this message board is in fact only for factual information then I do apologize for posting my opinions.  Although I'm thinking Mr. Coleman's comments were not factual but his opinions so it sounds like there is a double standard going on here.

Either way, our communications have been fun and entertaining for sure.  Thanks to all of you for trying to help me see the proper posting procedures. :)  And Pat?  Your importance as the keeper of the board is duly noted.  Take care.

Gee, I would've thought you might've looked at the words under my name or at the bottom of my post, perhaps that would've let you know who I am.

You want rules? Try the Terms of Service. You know, the ones you're supposed to read when you register.

Welcome to the D3sports.com message board. Post up your opinions about Division III sports here. Please, no commercial posts and no flaming. We will remove posts when necessary.

By posting on this Web site, you agree not to hold Pat Coleman, D3hoops.com, D3football.com, its parent company or any representative of the site responsible for anything that may occur to you or any third party, whether on this message board or off of it.

Here is what is permissible and what isn't.

2. ... Don't use us as your soapbox to repeatedly bash an athlete, coach, school, etc. Similar offenses involve "rolling the board" -- posting nonsense or an identical or similar message many times on one board -- or being a "troll" -- making inflammatory posts simply to incite an argument.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on March 11, 2007, 03:09:19 pm
Finally the GNAC board has come alive!  As an alum, I am glad to see it!  To answer a previous post, Mike Theulen from WNEC was named coach of the year.  They tore through the league, so he deserved it. 

Here's one bad part of GNAC expansion......an unbalanced schedule.  If you go to the league site, it gives the 07-08 league schedule.  All teams will play 8 teams twice, and 2 teams once.  This does not make any sense.  Some teams will have an easier conference schedule than others.  Not fair in my book - I think that is a terrible decision by the league, or whoever makes the decision. 

I think the 3 new teams will be pretty competitive and I am already looking froward to next year!   :P
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: JamIt on March 11, 2007, 07:48:23 pm
Well Pat, I have to admit with my head hung low that NO I did NOT read the "Terms of Agreement" when I registered for this posting board.  I am guilty as charged.  I have to guess that if you were to take a poll that 99% of the registered members would be guilty of not reading the terms as well.  As far as my not looking below your name to see what your importance was in my life, I had no reason to look and again, nor did I nor do I care who you are or what you do.  I will take accountability for not following the "terms of service" by repeating my comments about Riv's coach but that's all I will take accountability for here.  I was an observer on this board for a year before I registered to post my comments and in that time I saw many postings where opionions were given, some factual, but alot were not.   That's why when I registered to post I was under the assumption that it was an opinion board.  That's what makes it interesting.  If we wanted to see scores or standings we could read the newspaper.  A message board such as this should be for opinions, but as I said I apologize if I disrespected the "terms of agreement".  :) 

The thing I would like to point out "Pat" is that if you were so bent on your "rule" of not bashing anyone, then I'm wondering why you have chosen to continually bash me and my comments.  I am not sure that I have done anything different from what you have done.  Difference being that my comments were about basketball.  A truly professional "administrator" would have respectfully sent a response to me and asked that I please refrain from breaking the terms of agreement by continually bashing someone.  That would have been something I could have respected.

As far as your comments Creekhoops, I sincerely appreciate your comments because they were your opinions of which I do respect.  I loved your story about your "piece of net" and congrats for that accomplishment.  You are obviously a well respected coach and I'm sure your players appreciate you.  Ever think of replacing DM? :)  :)
I do have to admit that I was confused at first over your MacDonald story but it dawned on me that your comparison of the almighty Pat and his Administrator title are similar to those of the almighty Ronald MacDonald. :)

Rest easy Pat, my work is done here (for this year).  I will close by giving these last very factual opinions and pardon me if I am being "repetitive".    Congrats RIV for an incredible, unforgettable year.  I love you guys, especially, JOHN, CHRIS & JAMES.

And congrats to Mike Theulen for winning Coach of the Year.  I guess DM's peers didn't think he had as much influence on Riv's miracle year either.  I rest my case!!!!

Oh and by the way "guys"....I'm not sure whether to be flattered or insulted but I am not one of you.  I'm a woman!!!!  Go figure. :) 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 12, 2007, 12:29:09 am
The thing I would like to point out "Pat" is that if you were so bent on your "rule" of not bashing anyone, then I'm wondering why you have chosen to continually bash me and my comments.  I am not sure that I have done anything different from what you have done.  Difference being that my comments were about basketball.  A truly professional "administrator" would have respectfully sent a response to me and asked that I please refrain from breaking the terms of agreement by continually bashing someone.  That would have been something I could have respected.

I have been on many boards where people are warned in public. Sorry you couldn't handle it.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: JamIt on March 12, 2007, 03:43:40 pm
This will be my shortest post ever and hopefully my last one for now....PAT I'm thinking YOU are the one who can't handle it and I'm also thinking you have way too much time on your hands that of all the postings you have cared so much about mine.  Have a Great Day!!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 13, 2007, 03:59:15 pm

Pat, why did you give her so much leeway with this thing.  It seems like she's said enough to be banned long ago.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 14, 2007, 03:50:32 am
Because he/she keeps claiming he/she is going to stop. I keep hoping he/she can manage to actually do it.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: JamIt on March 14, 2007, 10:52:10 pm
Now what fun would that be PAT if I were to just go away that easily.  I honestly and sincerely am not really sure what prompted you to react like you did to my postings but I suppose it gives you job security.  And I'm not sure what your comments about "he/she" were about.  I suppose that makes you feel pretty darn superior huh?  Again, not very professional Pat.  Tsk! Tsk!  I would apologize for doing so much dissing to your buddy DM but the thing is, I'm not sorry at all!  Again, have a good one!!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 15, 2007, 09:38:45 am

I went back and reviewed the initial comments.  It seems like Pat was just giving you a hard time about whining when your team made the NCAA Tournament.  Pat will give it to all of us when we post like that.


I'm not sure how it got that far, other than that you attacked Pat for calling you out.

It seems perfectly acceptable for the owner of the site to say you're whining too much and talking too much crap about a coach when no one else seems to want to discuss the issue.

If there were other posters on here discussing Morissette, then it might be more acceptable.  There's plenty of bad coaches out there.  We know how you feel about this one.  That's probably enough.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: JamIt on March 16, 2007, 12:31:13 am
Thanks Hoops Fan for your comments.  Believe it or not they were taken with respect and I appreciate your taking the time to comment.   From my standpoint, I would not have minded if Pat simply had informed me of the terms of service and the proper "posting rules" but instead he chose to inform me in a very unprofessional way and I responded.   They were simply my thoughtsand opinions and I shared them.  The truth of the matter is that I wasn't whining.  I was actually thrilled this year with RIV's success in spite of their horrible head coach. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 16, 2007, 02:44:48 am
You were informed of the posting rules when you registered. If you chose to ignore them, that is not our fault.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: creekhoops on March 17, 2007, 01:17:21 pm
ummm (uncomfortable dinner table silence)..  Creek hoops cheerfully chimes in "hey, how about that Amherst team? "(Pat passes the carrots) Jamit just stares acorss the table, disapproving the attempt in a conversation change...Hoops Fan then speaks up and says 'enough is enough, can I eat my meal in peace?"  The family takes a moment, then proceeds to finish dinner.

So - can anyone give some insight as to what the dynamics of the New GNAC means for a team like J&W?  I've been out of the loop for too long to know what the new teams will be like...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: JamIt on March 17, 2007, 11:46:41 pm
Creek Hoops...your attempt at humor to lighten up the ongoing talk between myself and PAT was very successful.  I laughed and enjoyed it alot so thanks.  That's what this should be about...people writing what they want to write...not censorship.  And again, even though you were indirectly probably taking a shot at me I appreciate your candid way with words.  Take care....
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: NEbball45 on April 25, 2007, 08:44:13 am
Emerson snags a NESCAC recruit from Wesleyan and Bates! apparently hes a deadly shooter, a kid from deerfield. They also landed a great passing swingman. anyone have any info on this kid? What does this mean for the rest of the GNAC as well, with Dawkins, Shannon and Rouse all coming back? They were just one shooter away last year, could they be this years favorites?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on June 07, 2007, 05:16:22 pm
congrats to Sam Presti and Emerson. Also when D.Webb leaves in a year what does that mean for the GNAC?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 07, 2007, 08:55:07 pm
As we have said on the D3football boards,

D1 Hoops players want to play in the NBA.

D3 basketball players want to run the NBA.

Do we have any D3 alums who own an NBA team?

(Devean George of the Mavs is from Augsburg.)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 06, 2007, 08:47:24 pm
I am watching the Sonics vs the Mavs in the developmental league television game and the camera scans to Sam Presti.

Hey, I recognize that guy!  ;)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: VirginiaSlim22 on July 10, 2007, 02:17:17 pm
MARK MY WORDS!!!!!!!!!


Daniel Webster will win the GNAC next year!

go head and make this your sig, make a quote, or take a picture.  Just know you heard it here 1st.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: heythere on July 11, 2007, 05:13:41 pm
I am going to bet that i will see wayne washington on the dweb roster next year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: NEbball45 on July 19, 2007, 03:50:04 pm
who has the best recuiting class coming in? anyone that can have a big impact as a frosh?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: hopefan on July 27, 2007, 08:52:35 am
just curious - I see Daniel Webster has an exhibition game scheduled with the Citadel - what's the connection? - how did they get the game?   Exciting opportunity for a small program from New England...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on July 27, 2007, 10:02:52 am
just curious - I see Daniel Webster has an exhibition game scheduled with the Citadel - what's the connection? - how did they get the game?   Exciting opportunity for a small program from New England...


Where do you see that information.  It's not on The Citadel's website and DWC doesn't have a new schedule up yet.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: hopefan on July 27, 2007, 10:12:57 am
Daniel Webster is up

http://www.dwc.edu/athletics/Men's%20Basketball/mbasketball_schedule_0708.shtml
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: gyao021 on August 30, 2007, 02:39:43 pm
I think people are forgetting about one team who has recently joined the GNAC. This team will suprisingly be a shocker to all of you since you have not even considered them in any equation at all. This team is Saint Joseph's College of Maine. They will be young but with plenty of fire power. I believe this team has the strength to dominate not only the GNAC but also cause a number of problems for teams around the country come tournament time. They are one of the only teams that I know of that has no seniors. It will be a team led by juniors and freshmen. The team is starting to stack itself with powerful guards that can take over at any time. Two suprisingly went to the same high school. RJ Mattison (Junior) and Hi Jackson (Freshman). Both players played for Hamden High School of Hamden, CT, Mattison known for his consistent and accurate shooting at the 2 guard position should deliver many points this season. Jackson known for his unbelievable passing and court awareness should open many eyes in his opening season with the monks. Learning from current starting point guard Scott Vachon, Jackson should be able to step in and help right away. Elbie Murphey will be key for the monks with his nack for stealing the ball and scoring he will be a player to watch this upcoming season. The monks are the team to beat this season. Daniel Webster and the monks will face each other at Saint Joes December 8th. With a chip on their shoulders, lets see how Saint Joes will stand against their "new competition".
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: CCCalum2 on August 30, 2007, 04:08:21 pm
I think people are forgetting about one team who has recently joined the GNAC. This team will suprisingly be a shocker to all of you since you have not even considered them in any equation at all. This team is Saint Joseph's College of Maine. They will be young but with plenty of fire power. I believe this team has the strength to dominate not only the GNAC but also cause a number of problems for teams around the country come tournament time. They are one of the only teams that I know of that has no seniors. It will be a team led by juniors and freshmen. The team is starting to stack itself with powerful guards that can take over at any time. Two suprisingly went to the same high school. RJ Mattison (Junior) and Hi Jackson (Freshman). Both players played for Hamden High School of Hamden, CT, Mattison known for his consistent and accurate shooting at the 2 guard position should deliver many points this season. Jackson known for his unbelievable passing and court awareness should open many eyes in his opening season with the monks. Learning from current starting point guard Scott Vachon, Jackson should be able to step in and help right away. Elbie Murphey will be key for the monks with his nack for stealing the ball and scoring he will be a player to watch this upcoming season. The monks are the team to beat this season. Daniel Webster and the monks will face each other at Saint Joes December 8th. With a chip on their shoulders, lets see how Saint Joes will stand against their "new competition".
Wow, a lot of information about St. Joe's.  Not doubting that the Monks have a talented team, but do you think that maybe you could just hide your email so nobody knows that you are most likely the Hi Jackson that was referenced in the previous post, based on your email that was posted on this site.  Dude, get a freakin clue.  You are obviously an incoming frosh, you've got a lot to learn my friend.  I'm sure your teammates and coach don't really appreciate you coming onto these posts and acting like a blowhard.  When you are actually a member of the team and posting crap like this, you immediately lose credibility.  I hope other teams in the league see this and make you pay for it.  Wake up!!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on August 30, 2007, 04:16:12 pm

You might want to ask the coach before you post; a lot of them don't like players being on here.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 30, 2007, 08:40:04 pm
Changing to a fake e-mail means you lose access.

I wish people would read those instructions we put out there.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on August 31, 2007, 08:19:26 am
Changing to a fake e-mail means you lose access.

I wish people would read those instructions we put out there.


It's not like it takes much time to create a new fake email, CCCalum2 did it.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 02, 2007, 12:32:24 pm
Just should've done it from the beginning.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: hoopdreams032 on September 08, 2007, 09:39:19 pm
DWC is also playing Dartmouth in Hanover this year. Does anyone know if they have a strong freshmen class coming in? Playing 2 D1 schools tells me they must have a couple of ringers coming in.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 09, 2007, 11:38:03 am
Playing two D-I schools tells me they must need a two paydays.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: hoopdreams032 on September 14, 2007, 12:18:36 am
True. But why would Dartmouth want to play a D3 team that has gone 24-143 over the last 7 years?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on September 14, 2007, 08:22:35 am
True. But why would Dartmouth want to play a D3 team that has gone 24-143 over the last 7 years?


They had somebody back out of a game and DWC doesn't care about losing 144-23 to a bunch of walk-ons.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 14, 2007, 10:48:41 am
It's not uncommon at the Division III level for even a bad team to play a Division I opponent.

It's fun for the kids to play in a bigger building, against D-I athletes. Someone can probably come out of the night with a story to tell their kids about the night they scored 20 points against Dartmouth.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on September 14, 2007, 11:11:34 am
It's not uncommon at the Division III level for even a bad team to play a Division I opponent.

It's fun for the kids to play in a bigger building, against D-I athletes. Someone can probably come out of the night with a story to tell their kids about the night they scored 20 points against Dartmouth.


Right, but we still need a reason for Dartmouth to agree to the game.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 14, 2007, 12:31:33 pm
I thought you'd addressed that. I was providing an alternate explanation to your doom and gloom "doesn't care about losing to a bunch of walk-ons" scenario.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on September 14, 2007, 12:40:26 pm
How much do you think they will get paid for games like that?   ???
Is it enough to make it worth it?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 14, 2007, 01:07:29 pm
It's now been more than a decade since I worked in an athletic department, but in the mid-90s, the school I worked at got $3,000 for one game and $5,000 for another.

Funded uniforms every few years and other things.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on September 14, 2007, 02:14:05 pm
I thought you'd addressed that.


I was anxious to see if you would have further insight as to why Dartmouth might have scheduled the game.  It seems like someone could come up with a reason beyond "we had an open date," but I am not that person.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on September 15, 2007, 09:09:13 pm
Word on the street is D-Web brought in 18 new recruits....seems as though its the same thing each year with them, as they start re-building again. I'm sure playing two D1 teams isn't the answer to their problems either!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: t33white on September 15, 2007, 10:13:08 pm
dw is probably playing dartmouth because daniel webster graduated from dartmouth. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on September 16, 2007, 09:38:03 pm
any idea who the top teams in the league are this year?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on October 12, 2007, 08:08:27 am
I was looking at UNH's schedule and saw that they play Suffolk.

http://www.unhwildcats.com/index.cfm?id=4CAF5583-AE8F-18BE-D8A98C578E288705

Is this a new trend in the GNAC?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on October 12, 2007, 08:25:22 am

I think it may be a new trend for UNH.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on October 12, 2007, 12:24:16 pm
i know that suffolk and unh played each other in the 04-05 season, so it's nothing new there.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on November 16, 2007, 11:21:19 pm
In the second game of the Vassar College Tip-Off Tournament, Emerson College’s Will Dawkins (Springfield, MA/Commerce) hit a 3-point shot with one second remaining to lead the Lions past William Paterson, 74-71, nightcap of the Vassar College Men’s Tip-Off Tournament.

In a wild and frenetic ending (Emerson SOP), William Paterson, which had been held scoreless for 7:55 of the second half (from 11:05 to 3:12) had tied the game at 71-71 following a jumper by guard Al-Basser Holloway (Union, NJ/Newark East Side) with five seconds to play. Dawkins took the inbound pass and made a mad dash down the right side of the floor and canned his jumper as time expired. William Paterson had taken a 69-68 lead after senior guard Joey Spiegel (Teaneck, NJ/Teaneck) went coast to coast following an Emerson missed layup to convert his own layup and a free throw to put the Pioneers ahead, 69-68. With 17 seconds to play, Emerson’s sophomore center Bryan Rouse (East Greenwich, RI/Toll Gate) put Emerson in front 71-69 following a conversion of a layup and free throw.

Emerson’s comeback was keyed by Rouse who scored 18 points, five coming during a critical stretch when the Lions took control of the game, erasing a 13 point halftime deficit and building a five-point lead (60-55) of their own. Both teams battled back and forth over the final five minutes.

Emerson got a team high 19 points from Tom Messinger (Florence, MA/Deerfield Academy), who shot 6 for 10 from three-point range and 16 from Dawkins. William Paterson was led by Spiegel’s 20 points and 10 from Gabriel Paul (Hillside, NJ/Hillside).
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on November 17, 2007, 06:02:16 pm
Emerson 70, Vassar 67  - The Lions win the Vassar Tip-Off Tournament Championship


Emerson (2-0) was led by senior forward Ben Chase (Newburyport, MA/Newburyport) who led all scorers with a career-high 25 points on 11-of-13 shooting from the field as the Lions held off a late charge by Vassar to capture the tip-off tourney title.

Brewer guard Brian Butterworth (Hamilton, MA/Hamilton-Wenham) missed a game-tying three-pointer as time expired. The Brewers (1-1) had a chance to send the game into overtime after Emerson sophomore guard Jeremy Shannon (Lowell, MA/Canterbury School) missed the second of two free throws that could have put the Lions in front by four with 20 seconds remaining. After a Vassar timeout, the Brewers ran a play that gave Butterworth an opportunity to tie the score with two seconds remaining. However, Butterworth’s attempt bounced around the rim and fell out giving the Lions’ another dramatic victory. Emerson advanced to the title game on a three-pointer by senior guard Will Dawkins (Springfield, MA/Commerce) the night before.

Shannon added 16 points, seven rebounds and seven assists and Bryan Rouse added 11, four boards, and two blocks. Rouse was named to the all-tourney team. Emerson's home opener is Tuesday night, November 20 at 7 vs. NEWMAC rival Babson at the Lions Den.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on November 18, 2007, 07:15:38 pm
Just listening to the hoopsville show for a moment and someone mentioned Emerson's "big" wkd. Looks like they could be pretty good this year.

Emmanuel suffers two losses in their own tournament-rough!

I bet Lasell will be a big contender in the GNAC this year too.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 19, 2007, 04:37:47 pm
Thanks for tuning in to Hoopsville -- spread the word!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on November 19, 2007, 09:49:53 pm
looks like emerson had a solid weekend up in new york. Any idea what's up with emmanuel being 0-2? i heard they were stacked this year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 20, 2007, 12:09:50 pm
looks like emerson had a solid weekend up in new york. Any idea what's up with emmanuel being 0-2? i heard they were stacked this year.

They lost twice, but both by margins smaller than I would have expected.  The "stacked" rumors might have some measure of truth to them, at least perspectively.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on November 21, 2007, 07:52:06 am
Emerson 89, Babson 77 from the Lions Den in Boston.

Tom Messinger hit 8 three pointers on his way to a game-high 28 points to lead the Lions to their first win over the Beavers in school history. Emerson had four other score double figures: Bryan Rouse (15), Jeremy Shannon (15), Will Dawkins (13, 7 A) and Ben Chase (11).

The Lions opened up an eleven point lead at the half (41-28) and opened it up with a 13-2 run over a four minute span in the second half to seal the deal. Emerson led by as many as 25 (75-50) late second half.

A look ahead: Emerson plays at U-Mass Boston next Tuesday and hosts Wheaton next Thursday.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: CCCalum2 on November 21, 2007, 11:40:13 am
Not sure if anyone noticed that Lasell knocked off a strong WPI team last night.  Everyone seems to be so hung up on Emerson, but that is a pretty impressive win for the Lasell squad last night.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on November 23, 2007, 02:40:25 pm
Yes, that is pretty impressive. Lasell should be in the running in their new league this yr!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on November 27, 2007, 09:35:32 pm
Lasell over WPI, eh? Not that big of a surprise but certainly a quality win for the Lasers. They've been good for about five years now....they won the NAC twice and went to the NCAA's....almost won opening round games vs. So. Vermont when they were loaded and lost by one at Union if I recall correctly...also tangled with a tough Elms squad the last few seasons....they should definitely be a GNAC contender....no surprise there.

Emerson has gotten a lot of play on ths board because they're not only a contender but they have been in the league from the start...so it makes sense that a lot of people are talking about them on this board. I post a lot of game or score info for the Lions....like tonight's 74-64 win over UMass-Boston!

The Lions are off to the best start in school history (I believe) at 4-0. Emerson hosts Wheaton on Thursday at the Lions Den.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: heythere on November 28, 2007, 09:57:35 pm
Anyone see that Emmanuel vs Ahmerst score, 99-49. thats a bad one.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on December 01, 2007, 05:29:16 pm
99-49? that doesn't sound good. I realize that Amherst is one of the best teams in the nation each year, but I heard that Emmanuel was supposed to have some scholarship players coming in this year, but the 50 point loss has gotta hurt. Anyways, whats happening in the rest of the league? looks like Emerson is doing well, along with some other teams... I can't wait until second semester when conference play really starts up...should be interesting.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on December 01, 2007, 05:40:55 pm
Emerson 88-57 over Mt. Ida, setting up what should be a great game vs. MIT on Tuesday 12/11 at the Lions Den.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on December 02, 2007, 10:36:01 am
Just to let everyone know...Daniel Webster has a record above .500, someone please take a picture.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Peddler on December 12, 2007, 07:55:16 am
With an impressive 10 point win over MIT last night, I think it's time Emerson College cracks the nation's top 25. They are 7-0 with statement wins against William Patterson, Vassar, Babson, Wheaton and MIT.

This is a "no brainer".
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: atn alum on December 12, 2007, 11:21:01 am
Perhaps...

they got 21 points in the last poll (a jump from the 1 point that I gave them for a 25th-place vote the week before), which I think is respectable. Those are good wins, but none of those teams were Top 25.

Keep in mind that a GNAC team is gonna be a hard sell to the voters, because that is a league that doesn't historically do well against upper-level NE teams. Emerson may prove to be an exception to that, so I think people are taking a wait-and-see approach. But I think our voters are keeping a close eye out...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 12, 2007, 11:49:23 am
It is anything but a no-brainer. Most of those teams you spotlight wins against are decent but none are Top 25 and probably none are even Top 50.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 12, 2007, 03:14:58 pm

I'm not sure Emerson's proven themselves ready for the national Top 25, but they have shown they will be a formidable force in the NE region, which is a good step for the program.  If they continue to play at this level, their due will come in time.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Peddler on December 12, 2007, 06:42:15 pm
It is anything but a no-brainer. Most of those teams you spotlight wins against are decent but none are Top 25 and probably none are even Top 50.

I would think that going 7-0 with good (if not great) out of conference wins would be enough to break in to the Top 25...maybe I'm wrong. How many 7-0 teams are there right now???...I honestly don't know but I doubt there are many.

There is now question that the ARE at Top 25 team. Will they get VOTED into the Top25...who knows.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Marty Peretz on December 12, 2007, 07:08:41 pm
For the record, Babson is better than their record indicates. They gave Wash.U. a tougher test than Platteville or IWU. Granted, Mcdonald went off for 32 on 10 of 13 shooting (5 of 6 from 3) and WU played  its worst game of the year, but they still hung tough and had very good guard play. Emerson beat a team by 12 which lost to Amherst by 6. True, it's more than a numbers game but I'd give them votes. Without Messinger, however, they might run into trouble.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 12, 2007, 08:44:03 pm
It is anything but a no-brainer. Most of those teams you spotlight wins against are decent but none are Top 25 and probably none are even Top 50.

I would think that going 7-0 with good (if not great) out of conference wins would be enough to break in to the Top 25...maybe I'm wrong. How many 7-0 teams are there right now???...I honestly don't know but I doubt there are many.

There is now question that the ARE at Top 25 team. Will they get VOTED into the Top25...who knows.

But this isn't standings, it's a ranking. And many teams could have gone 7-0 against that schedule.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on December 12, 2007, 09:05:05 pm
For the record, Babson is better than their record indicates. They gave Wash.U. a tougher test than Platteville or IWU. Granted, Mcdonald went off for 32 on 10 of 13 shooting (5 of 6 from 3) and WU played  its worst game of the year, but they still hung tough and had very good guard play. Emerson beat a team by 12 which lost to Amherst by 6. True, it's more than a numbers game but I'd give them votes. Without Messinger, however, they might run into trouble.

Marty, your last statement may be true - they might run into trouble with Messinger but they beat Wheaton and MIT without Messinger and Jeremy Shannon only played 15 minutes apiece due to in-game injuries.

If the Lions are at full strength for the 2nd half of the season then they will have the ability to let their play do the talking in 2008.

The goal is to gain a bid to the DIII tournament, but it has been great to see Emerson win games vs. the NEWMAC - those are very good teams year in and year out and we have been so close to winning a number of those games over the last 4-5 seasons and to win these games convincingly is a great achievement to start the season.

Happy holidays everyone.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Peddler on December 12, 2007, 09:37:32 pm

It is anything but a no-brainer. Most of those teams you spotlight wins against are decent but none are Top 25 and probably none are even Top 50.

I would think that going 7-0 with good (if not great) out of conference wins would be enough to break in to the Top 25...maybe I'm wrong. How many 7-0 teams are there right now???...I honestly don't know but I doubt there are many.

There is now question that the ARE at Top 25 team. Will they get VOTED into the Top25...who knows.

But this isn't standings, it's a ranking. And many teams could have gone 7-0 against that schedule.

Pat, You are making it sound like they were playing a bunch of tomato cans every night. They played some good teams. Bottom line - I'd take them over a #20-25 team. If the freshman shooter is playing, I'd take them against anyone outside the top 10. Have you seen them play?

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on December 12, 2007, 10:24:12 pm
I must agree with Peddler. If you look at the records of the teams they have beaten they add up to something like 32-26 or something...probably the best out of all the top teams. A tougher schedule than alot of these teams have faced. And I believe that earlier this year someone said that EC had scrimmaged I think Brandeis and stayed with them. While there are other undefeated teams or one loss teams, I would have to say that the records of the teams they have played solidify's the opponents.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: ILive4This on December 12, 2007, 11:27:47 pm
I would say that Emerson has a legit shot at not losing a game this year after getting by MIT. And yes they did scrimage at Brandeis and stayed with them, even beating them one of the halves(mini games) but then got beat by 8 in the 10 minute 3rd mini game.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 13, 2007, 07:49:56 am

It is anything but a no-brainer. Most of those teams you spotlight wins against are decent but none are Top 25 and probably none are even Top 50.

I would think that going 7-0 with good (if not great) out of conference wins would be enough to break in to the Top 25...maybe I'm wrong. How many 7-0 teams are there right now???...I honestly don't know but I doubt there are many.

There is now question that the ARE at Top 25 team. Will they get VOTED into the Top25...who knows.

But this isn't standings, it's a ranking. And many teams could have gone 7-0 against that schedule.

Pat, You are making it sound like they were playing a bunch of tomato cans every night. They played some good teams. Bottom line - I'd take them over a #20-25 team. If the freshman shooter is playing, I'd take them against anyone outside the top 10. Have you seen them play?



Nope, there are 400 teams in Division III and that's reality.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on December 13, 2007, 09:54:39 am
Peddler---the likelihood that you have seen teams 20-25...ehh not so good. However i like the enthusiasm
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Peddler on December 13, 2007, 11:39:16 am
I think you guys misinterpreted the intent of my question. I honestly wanted to know if Pat had seen them play.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: #44 on December 13, 2007, 12:35:01 pm
Its the nature of polls that when a "new" team like Emerson comes along... it's met with skepticism.  It's like joining a club.  Once Emerson cracks the top 25... it's much more likely they'll make it in again in the future.  Right now... they have to prove their worth and that they belong. 

So it will take Emerson longer to make the top 25 than a team that's been there before.  My only hope is that the guys on the team understand not to get caught up in it.  The only thing they need to do is keep winning and the poll will take care of itself. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Sir Charles on December 13, 2007, 12:40:18 pm
If I may do so, I'd like to chime in on the Emerson Lions and the teams they have played.  Granted Babson, Umass Boston and Mt. Ida are not good teams, but the other teams they have played have been challenging.  The combined record of the other 4 teams they have played are 26-7 (3 combine for 20-3 with only losses to the Lions).  Does anyone question the greatness of the Patriots because 6 of their games are against the Bills, Dolphins and Jets?  Furthermore, they have been winning a portion of these games without Shannon and Messanger, which makes this 7-0 even more impressive, not to mention how scary it makes them when those guys return.
Now I'm about to put myself out for critisicm here because I know it was only a scrimmage and those don't count for much, but I think it should be noted that the Lions didn't lose to Brandies (8-1, 2nd best team in the country) when they scrimmaged them @ Brandies.  At least that's an indication that these Lions can play with the big dogs, and I definately think they should be in the top 25.  Undefeated is undefeated, plain and simple, especially when they didn't just play duds.    
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on December 14, 2007, 10:50:26 am
Sir Charles,

I would have to disagree with your statement that Babson is not a good team. Babson's record may be 3-6 but look at their schedule -

Losses:
 
Trinity by 7, Conn College by 2, Brandeis by 15, Tufts by 17, Washington U by 2, and Emerson by 13. For those who were at Emerson for that game know that the Lions were ahead by 25 with 3/4 minutes to play.

Babson defeated Bates, Lasell, and Claremont....quite a tough schedule for them early on, and they should be very competitive in NEWMAC play.

Ranked or not, Emerson is very strong this year and will let their play do the talking. I'm sure if you asked Coach Smith if he rather be ranked in the Top 25 or make it to the NCAA Tournament, I think the answer is clear, one that nearly every coach would give. The publicity of potentially being ranked is certainly gratifying, but the eyes are on the prize.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: hoopjunkie on December 14, 2007, 11:04:15 am
goldenpipes ,
I would agree with you . Babson is a tough team . I saw them against Tufts & they quite frankly scared me . Bush is very good scored 20 against us & they are an aggressive athletic team.However  they don`t have alot of size , but they have a few players who get up & their point guard slam dunked against Tufts .
They will beat alot of schools , that I can tell you .
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Sir Charles on December 15, 2007, 04:58:47 am
Look my statements on Babson were purely based on their record, focussing primarily just on Emerson's strength of schedule.  As for that "comeback" for Babson in the final minutes against Emerson, I assume the Lions had the huge lead and put in the 3rd string.  Therefore, the final score may be what it was, but we know what it really means.  I also agree with you that the major goal of the team is to win, not to get rankings.  I'm sure winning the GNAC and doing some damage in the NCAA's are most important above all else.  However, as Emerson hasn't been known as a sports school, the wonderful opportunity for the program with this kind of attention that is WELL DESERVED is just icing on the cake.    The hard work and effort of the players, not just those of this year's team but of year's past, should be acknowledged and rewarded by seeing themselves listed as among the best.   
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on December 15, 2007, 01:33:38 pm
I understand that your statements regarding Babson were based solely on their record, but I think Babson is much better than their record - and yes, Emerson was ahead by about 25, put their 3rd team in and Babson pressed and cut the lead down and that's why Emerson won by a dozen instead of 20+

I think that makes the Lions performance against Babson stand out a bit more - look how tough the Beavers played a number of high quality teams...

I'm a double Emersonian and would agree that the attention is well deserved - they have been a tough opponent for many years, especially considering they had no gym until last season. If they stay healthy, they should have a very strong second half and can hopefully get into the tournament.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: t33white on December 17, 2007, 07:02:52 pm
not to change the subject about emerson.  they are a good team.  i had many great games games playing against them.   i was at the daniel webster vs dartmouth game on saturday.  it was not a good game to watch.  daniel webster was just too small.   their gaurds could not get it through their heads that they would not be able to take inside on them.  they got blocked 12 times.  they shot poorly.  too much dribbling not enough moving the ball around.  the second half was a little better but not much.    anyways  just thought i would write something about it.   good luck to all gnac teams.  miss the games
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Worse than Alex Tse on December 18, 2007, 10:01:29 am
7 votes.......for emerson in the top 25?????? Are you serious? Who votes on this?? Really?? Honestly???? UMASS Boston got 8? Reallllly? Serious?????
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 18, 2007, 10:51:10 am
Nah, those UMB votes are someone missing UMD on the drop-down menu. It's been fixed. Breathe deeply.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on December 18, 2007, 11:23:42 am
How does it work with Emerson beating MIT and then losing votes.

Got some more work to do I guess.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: SouthernBFIB on December 18, 2007, 01:27:38 pm
As a guest visiting the GNAC from the ATL and noting all the comments from previous posts it looks like Emerson has put in enough work to at least get more votes. They played Brandeis(preseason) to a virtual tie and pretty much ran over the others, it hard to see how they lost votes much less not break into the TOP 25. Looks like the committee has work to do.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: CCCalum2 on December 18, 2007, 02:03:07 pm
7 votes.......for emerson in the top 25?????? Are you serious? Who votes on this?? Really?? Honestly???? UMASS Boston got 8? Reallllly? Serious?????
Dude, you seriously need to relax.  7-0 is worthy of some votes, i'll agree.  I'll also agree that you shouldn't have dropped in the amount of votes that you got last week after beating MIT.  Haven't you players learned to conceal your real names when you register for this site?  I don't mind seeing Emerson or the GNAC get a little recognition, but I just don't want to hear the campaign from a member of the team, although it seems you have the best seat in the house.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 18, 2007, 04:21:59 pm
One voter accounted for the vast majority of Emerson's points in the Week 3 poll. Apparently he looked a little more closely at Emerson and changed his mind.

Support for Emerson is actually very soft. If only a couple of people are voting for you then you will see fluctuations at the bottom end of the poll.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Peddler on December 18, 2007, 05:28:11 pm
One voter accounted for the vast majority of Emerson's points in the Week 3 poll. Apparently he looked a little more closely at Emerson and changed his mind.

Support for Emerson is actually very soft. If only a couple of people are voting for you then you will see fluctuations at the bottom end of the poll.

Wow...D3hoops Top 25 Poll is quickly losing credibility. Of course, the voters might have been influenced by your attempts to discredit Emerson's opponents in earlier posts.

I guess Emerson stands ZERO chance of making the top 25 now. Even if the run the table from here out, it will be against GNAC teams and will get no respect from royal voters.

New England is the toughest D3 region in the country. MIT would be one of the top two teams in just about any other conference in America outside the NESCAC and a few others.

Pat, I have been reading your website for a long time and appreciate the time you take to promote D3 athletics, but your voters got this one wrong.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 18, 2007, 05:31:40 pm
One voter accounted for the vast majority of Emerson's points in the Week 3 poll. Apparently he looked a little more closely at Emerson and changed his mind.

Support for Emerson is actually very soft. If only a couple of people are voting for you then you will see fluctuations at the bottom end of the poll.

Wow...D3hoops Top 25 Poll is quickly losing credibility. Of course, the voters might have been influenced by your attempts to discredit Emerson's opponents in earlier posts.

I guess Emerson stands ZERO chance of making the top 25 now. Even if the run the table from here out, it will be against GNAC teams and will get no respect from royal voters.

New England is the toughest D3 region in the country. MIT would be one of the top two teams in just about any other conference in America outside the NESCAC and a few others.

Pat, I have been reading your website for a long time and appreciate the time you take to promote D3 athletics, but your voters got this one wrong.


I highly doubt the voter in question reads the GNAC board when he's not busy coaching his team in the Midwest Region. Fairly certain there are more important things for him to do.

Early in the season voters constantly re-evaluate their ballots.

The Northeast is the largest region, but other regions are tougher. There is a lot of chaff in this region for teams to fatten up on.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 18, 2007, 05:32:06 pm
Though, I guess I don't know if chaff is fattening. :)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Sir Charles on December 18, 2007, 06:40:08 pm
Beware GNAC teams, if you thought Emerson already had enough motivation with their coach yelling constantly from the bench, oh boy, now they are really fueled and playing with a major chip on their shoulder.  I'm sure every member of that team is heated by the recent rankings and feel like they really need to prove a point by whip lashing every team ahead till they get what they deserve (top 25 ranking).  Not to sound like everyone else, but how do you drop a bunch of votes after winning more games?  I feel even worst for the other GNAC teams than I feel for Miami having to take on the Pats this weekend. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: atn alum on December 18, 2007, 09:54:07 pm
Yikes. Heard that before. I'd hope other things are motivating them besides the poll...whatever works, I guess. They aren't the first school to use the poll as motivation and won't be the last.

I'm one of the Emerson voters in the Top 25. I have them 25th and have voted them in  for 3 straight weeks. I was surprised by the drop too, but Pat is right. Fluctuations happen a lot at this point. Our pollsters are excellent. They're not perfect.

Let me just say this. Cracking the top 25 is tough, especially if you have never even been to the point of earning votes before. Have discussed this with voters many times. If you come from a conference with a shaky rep, NCAA and non-conference wise, it takes a little longer to earn a voter's trust. Like it or not, the GNAC is what it is. A conference in which most teams are unimpressive outside of league.

Lets be fair too. Emerson has 3 wins over teams for whom that is their only loss this season. That bodes in their favor for sure and it's part of the reason for the 25th-place vote.

But at the same time, those 3 schools (William Paterson, Vassar, Wheaton), haven't beaten anyone who has been ranked in our Top 25 all season, so you can call it a good win, but not a great win.

The MIT win is also a good win. I don't dispute that, but lets distinguish between good wins and signature wins, with a signature win being one over a team that was in the Top 25 at some point. Emerson probably needed one of those to really open some eyes.

If you look at the top 25, those teams almost all fall into category of a) Made NCAAs last yr, returned a lot of talent, off to a good start, b) have strong reputation, league has strong reputation, off to good start

Regarding a comment previously made: I guarantee you that I'm the biggest supporter of the Northeast Region in our top 25 and I'd say it's tough to call the Northeast Region the toughest in the country. Tougher than people think? Yes. Toughest? Prob not.

Last thing: There's nothing wrong with being the sleeper who sneaks up on people. Most coaches seem to prefer that actually.

Hoping to see Emerson play at some point. I've heard a lot of good things.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on December 18, 2007, 11:41:27 pm
Great insight "Atn"
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: atn alum on December 21, 2007, 12:01:53 pm
Thanks, though I feel like I grounded the conversation to a screeching halt...

I was thinking about this last night: Analogy from a D1 perspective would be something like "Gonzaga didn't become Gonzaga overnight." Took em time to get respect.

Worth noting: Emerson #13 in the Massey Ratings, D3's equivalent of the RPI, which is updated every Monday (and yes, I'll be letting them know that WNEC is no longer in GNAC)

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cb&sub=III&mid=1 (http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cb&sub=III&mid=1)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: hoopjunkie on December 21, 2007, 02:02:27 pm
Thanks for that website Massey very interesting . I love seeing strength of schedule
you should post it on the Nescac site as well . Great job.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on December 21, 2007, 07:35:37 pm
Ant,

I think your comments are on point, and thanks for your support. I think the semester break has slowed the conversation quite a bit since there won't be any games for a few weeks.

I'm all for being a sleeper, but everyone in the Northeast knows Emerson plays a very intense game, so I don't think we'll be sneaking up on anyone unless we make the tournament and play someone out of region.

I hope you get a chance to see us play and if so I'd love to hear your thoughts about our team.

Happy holidays to everyone reading and posting...can't wait for '08. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: newenglandball on December 21, 2007, 09:28:20 pm
i guess with emerson at 13 in the massey ratings proves that their record is worthy and it is strong enough to get top 25 votes
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: ILive4This on December 21, 2007, 10:25:04 pm
What are the massey ratings and where can they be found?

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 21, 2007, 10:27:51 pm
They can be found at the link in atnwriter's post.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: ILive4This on December 22, 2007, 10:49:09 pm
Interesting, I actually googled those ratings and the list i found had emerson in the top spot. I am curious what goes into this computer system
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 23, 2007, 12:32:43 am
That's the ranking that's dumbed down by not including margin of victory.

As in, it's the style of ranking the BCS uses. :)

The more accurate one includes margin of victory, which is why atnwriter posted the link to it.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 30, 2007, 11:07:25 pm

Massey's got Emerson's non-con as #100 in the country.  That's not great, but it's about where Puget Sound and Elmhurst are.  The only difference is that each of their schedules will get tougher with conference play, while Emerson's will get easier.

That's why we have tournaments though.  I hope they, and the rest of New England, represent themselves well.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on January 08, 2008, 10:46:49 pm
Emerson moves to 8-0 with a 67-63 victory according to the Lions website. Game details to follow.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: NortheastHoopsGuru on January 09, 2008, 06:11:08 pm
Emerson came out with a huge victory last night against Rivier last night. Sloppy game overall by both teams relatively. Emerson was ICE cold from the free throw line, shooting a horrific 11-26, to go along with a bounty of mised layups. Rivier played a solid all around game, but could never really get into the swing of things. The sloppiness of this game was aided by the referees, who were noticeably mediocre in both directions. One ref even stopped in the middle of play to yell at a Rivier fan!

On a different note, it is impressive to see that Emerson can win when only dressing 7 players, with perhaps the best big man in the GNAC (Soph. Bryan Rouse) and best pure shooter in the GNAC (Frosh. Tom Messinger) on the injured list. Truly a remarkable effort by the 7 men left standing. If Emerson can get those two healthy later on in the season, they could make a serious run to the NCAA's and even a few rounds into the NCAA's. Thats just how good this program is, and just how talented those injured go-to-guys are.

Rivier showed alot of potential to be a dangerous team as well. Bryant Mills had some HUGE shots, showing an effortless release off the dribble, i was very impressed with his scoring ability, while i have to question his ability to run the show. He looked to be more suited for a 2 guard role rather than a lead guard. Danny Ford and Carpenter are dangerous long, lenky players with range. Carpenter only to about the elbow, but Ford has pretty good three point range as well. They seem to have the foundation in place for another decent year. I have a feeling that Rivier and Emerson will be meeting again in the future.

I can't wait to see more GNAC games this year, hopefully a few more Emerson games as well. Good luck to all the GNAC teams, represent well.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 09, 2008, 06:13:54 pm
Welcome to the boards NEHoopsguru!  :)

I enjoyed reading the post.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on January 09, 2008, 06:43:06 pm
that explains a lot, i was wondering why the game was so close if Emerson truly is as good as their record states.  Their road to the NCAA tournament won't be an easy one though as they are yet to play either Lasell or St. Joes who I think are clearly Emersons biggest competition within the GNAC. 

I urge people not to be fooled by Lasell or St. Joseph's record.
Lasell although only 4-4 has a very impressive victory against WPI and a respectable effort falling up short 73-66 to national powerhouse Amherst.  This is a talented team not to be overlooked.
St. Josephs is still yet to find their stride although they are currently riding a 3 game winning streak.  According to box scores they were without their top player (Murphy) for the farmington game and he played only 10 meaningless minutes off the bench vs bowdoin before returning to regular minutes in their 3rd game.

side note:  Ray Eatmon appears to be the best kept secret of the GNAC right now averaging a very impressive 14 points and 11 rebounds a game through 8 games while shooting a respectable 57% from the field.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: NortheastHoopsGuru on January 09, 2008, 07:01:22 pm
that explains a lot, i was wondering why the game was so close if Emerson truly is as good as their record states.  Their road to the NCAA tournament won't be an easy one though as they are yet to play either Lasell or St. Joes who I think are clearly Emersons biggest competition within the GNAC. 

I urge people not to be fooled by Lasell or St. Joseph's record.
Lasell although only 4-4 has a very impressive victory against WPI and a respectable effort falling up short 73-66 to national powerhouse Amherst.  This is a talented team not to be overlooked.
St. Josephs is still yet to find their stride although they are currently riding a 3 game winning streak.  According to box scores they were without their top player (Murphy) for the farmington game and he played only 10 meaningless minutes off the bench vs bowdoin before returning to regular minutes in their 3rd game.

side note:  Ray Eatmon appears to be the best kept secret of the GNAC right now averaging a very impressive 14 points and 11 rebounds a game through 8 games while shooting a respectable 57% from the field.


I completely agree. I have seen Lasell a couple times, the Amherst game being one of them, and have been impressed with them. They have a good combination of outside shooters as well as slashers, all with size. They resemble more of a NESCAC team than a GNAC team. If anyone in the GNAC is going to beat Emerson this season, their best shot is to do it while Messinger and Rouse are still out, in the middle of a week of games. This week poses the biggest threat for Emerson, and given the circumstances, i'm actually picking LaSell to win this game. We'll see how long those 7 remaining Emerson players can last against LaSell, and i look forward to seeing it in person. I'll give my two cents recap afterwards as well. I know you'll all be waiting anxiously ;)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Peddler on January 10, 2008, 09:51:30 pm
Emerson by four over Lasell 83-79.


Next.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 11, 2008, 06:04:13 pm


Good win for Emerson.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Marty Peretz on January 12, 2008, 02:00:20 am
At this point, if i'm a voter, I'm voting for Emerson. I was skeptical for a while, but with wins over MIT and Lasell, plus the 9-0 record, I think they deserve a crack at it.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on January 12, 2008, 06:44:21 pm
dont know if i saw this correctly but i think i did....

norwich knocks off emerson 90-77

emerson was absolutely killed on the boards 47-16

wow this is gonna hurt their standing on next weeks poll...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on January 12, 2008, 08:43:19 pm
looks like conference play is starting to pick up again as the second semester starts up. Saw Emerson's loss to Norwich. That will hurt them in the standings or polls or whatever, but they seem to be a solid team, not to mention they're missing two key players. It's still early, and it looks like Emmanuel is leading the way with a 5-0 conference record, St. Joes of Maine is looking good, as is JWU, I am excited to see how everything ends up. Also, I saw that Rivier beat Lasell today by just two points, anyone know what happened in that game? sounds like it coulda been a good one.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on January 12, 2008, 09:02:19 pm
I think the conference will come down to a truly tight race between Emerson, Emmanuel, Lasell, St. Joe's, Johnson and Wales, and Rivier.  From the remaining schedules it looks as though Emerson and Lasell have it the easiest in terms of conference play I'd expect at least 10 wins out of Lasell and likely the same from Emerson with the other 4 teams mentioned basically beating up on each other.  Rivier seems to be the team flying under the radar here with a strong performance against Emerson @ Emerson and a nice win today vs Lasell.  Emmanuel seems like they might be more of a pretender with their 5-0 conference start, we'll see what they are truly made of with 9 of their final 13 conference games being against the other 5 teams mentioned above. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on January 15, 2008, 10:41:21 pm
Emerson 101, Albertus 51 from the Lions Den in Boston. I didn't get a lot of details, but Emerson shot 65% and held the Falcons to 29% shooting as the Lions rolled in Boston.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on January 15, 2008, 11:20:13 pm
some other scores from GNAC play tonite....

Johnson & Wales 79  Mount Ida  57
Rivier 90  Daniel Webster 76
Norwich 66  Emmanuel 63
St. Joes (Maine) 93  Suffolk  73

Williams 75  Lasell 65

Looks like Lasell gave williams a game and Norwich handed Emmanuel their first conference loss other than that they look like pretty lopsided contests
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on January 17, 2008, 09:15:19 pm
Emerson 85 Endicott 53

Ben Chase continued his hot shooting (11-17 from the field) leading the Lions with 27 points. Will Dawkins scored 26 on 9-12 from the field and added 7 rebounds. Jeremy Shannon added 15 and 6 assists as the Lions led by 20 at the break and cruised tonight in Beverly.

Box Score - http://ecgulls.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2007-2008/ec13.html
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on January 17, 2008, 09:32:39 pm
other GNAC results...

Mount Ida 100  Suffolk 90
Johnson and Wales 84  Albertus Magnus 66
Rivier 72  Norwich 71
Lasell 82  St. Joes 73

Emmanuel 90  Salem State 89    2OT

looks like Emmanuel pulled off a very impressive road win at Salem tonite in double overtime, box score/recap isnt up yet but a very impressive non-conference win for Emmanuel
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on January 17, 2008, 11:01:48 pm
not sure why but checking out the last couple of box scores the teams 2nd leading scorer and leading rebounder (also 4th in the conference) Raymond Eatmon has not played in either of the past two games for Saint Joe's of Maine.  depending on the reason for his absence st joes could continue to struggle as they did tonite in getting that production, particularly on the boards, from elsewhere...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on January 19, 2008, 05:23:25 pm
saturdays scores...
Norwich 73  Albertus Magnus 63
Emmanuel 76  Johnson and Wales 69
Lasell 81  Rivier 65
St. Joseph's 103  Mount Ida 50

still waiting for a Emerson/Daniel Webster score, I'm assuming Emerson won its just a matter of by how many
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on January 19, 2008, 07:24:55 pm
Emerson 90, Daniel Webster 79 from Nashua.

Will Dawkins led the Lions with 30 on 11 of 15 from the floor, Ben Chase added 29 and Jeremy Shannon scored 17 to lead the Lions to victory.

Brian Inge scored 27 for DW on 9 of 10 shooting and Chris Hanson chipped in 12 on four 3-pointers.

The Lions led throughout and led by as many as 23 (41-18) in the first half and by 20 (75-55) in the second. Emerson played a sloppy 2nd half and the Eagles kept fighting until the buzzer.

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on January 21, 2008, 05:29:17 pm
Emmanuel holds off St. Joe's of Maine 78-71 in Boston today.  Spellman had a big game for Emmanuel finishing with 21 and 15. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on January 24, 2008, 10:08:28 pm
Emerson scores a season high 108, defeating the Suffolk Rams @ Suffolk 108-89.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: atn alum on January 24, 2008, 10:30:53 pm
Cool..so those 2 for the gnac lead on saturday, eh?

Please give us a thorough report afterwards...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on January 24, 2008, 10:40:47 pm
Some other GNAC scores for tonite...
Lasell 84  Norwich 64
Emmanuel 80  Rivier 70
Johnson and Wales 87  Mount Ida  35
Southern Maine 71  St Joes 69

appears to be a 6 team race at this point with Emmanuel/Emerson being the favorite but Lasell seems like a scary team, one i certainly wouldn't want to face in an elimination game, they opened the season up 4-1 then dropped 6 straight and have now won 4 in a row, looking at the remainder of their schedule they could win out rather easily if they can knock off emmanuel in mid february, otherwise this team should cruise....
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: crazyecbballfan823 on January 26, 2008, 03:29:19 pm
Final Score from the Jean Yawkey Center:

Emmanuel 76 - Emerson 75

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Marty Peretz on January 26, 2008, 06:05:28 pm
Yet another chance to crack the rankings falls short for Emerson...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: atn alum on January 26, 2008, 09:08:58 pm
game story made it sound like a fun watch...emmanuel hit a 3 at buzzer to win...details?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: crazyecbballfan823 on January 26, 2008, 10:29:19 pm
Emmanuel was down 29 of the 40 minutes of the game and there were like 9 lead changes and 8 ties. Williams-Hinton hit the 3-point buzzer beater and Rookie Buchanan had 16 pts for the game. Great comeback by Emmanuel who had 12 of their 20 offensive rebounds in the last 5 minutes of the game.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on January 27, 2008, 10:44:44 am
looks like emmanuel is putting all the pieces together... i guess last year's runner up might have a solid chance to win it this year...don't hold your breath tho, i believe 2 years ago they were 17-1 in conference and lost in the semi's...we'll see if they can finish this year
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: crazyecbballfan823 on January 27, 2008, 02:59:56 pm
Emmanuel is a completely different team this year than they were last year and two years ago... I wouldn't say that it was a matter of "holding your breath" but more of waiting to see Emmanuel continue playing as well as they are
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on January 28, 2008, 01:00:23 pm
"completely different"?....no, they have a lot of returners and, most importantly, the same coach. We'll see what happens come playoff time.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: crazyecbballfan823 on January 28, 2008, 04:58:02 pm
Yep, you're right... we'll see.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on January 29, 2008, 09:52:57 pm
Emmanuel was handed an upset loss tonite visiting out of conference Endicott College 64-62.  tough loss for a team that had been on such a roll.  Spellman had a game high 22 for Emmanuel.

some other scores:
Emerson 91  Daniel Webster 61
Bates 84  St Joes  69
Johnson and Wales 70  Lasell 69
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: ILive4This on January 30, 2008, 01:00:15 am
While I will not mention names for confidentiality sake, I would not be an honorable person if I did not make you all aware. After putting up 25+ points tonight, a certain Emerson player lost in an arcade basketball game to a 5'7 runner with no real basketball talent, but who set the high score.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on January 30, 2008, 01:08:51 pm
Those arcade basketball games can be VERY addicted, and can burn a hole in your pocket. my highest score ever was 81.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: ILive4This on February 01, 2008, 09:23:15 pm
Impressive I was only able to score a 72, and was very proud of this accomplishment. The hole in my pocket was not totally burnt through as I put it out before it got too bad. So much fun to be had, I wonder what one of those would cost to put in my dorm room, I bet had I done in my freshmen year I could have more than made money back by graduation.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: crazyecbballfan823 on February 05, 2008, 10:48:44 am
Emmanuel beat Norwich last night 80-54... in case anyone didn't catch the score.

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 05, 2008, 11:02:39 pm
Emerson tops J & W in Providence 63-61 - does anyone have any details?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on February 06, 2008, 10:33:44 am
I am assuming, but no team in the GNAC would have chance at an at large bid if they won out would they? I see Emerson has only 3 losses is that too many? And I am assuming 6 for Emmanuel and JWU is too much
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on February 06, 2008, 12:55:06 pm
no team from the GNAC has any chance whatsoever of getting an at larage bid
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on February 06, 2008, 12:59:34 pm
Will Dawkins of Emerson getting national recognition, making team of the week.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 07, 2008, 10:53:44 pm
Nice to see Will get some well deserved press...Lions win tonight at Magnus, toppping the Falcons 88-79.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on February 08, 2008, 12:36:38 pm
Looks like Suffolk is really struggling this year. After an appearance in the semifinals last year, I expected a lot more from that team.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on February 09, 2008, 05:36:58 pm
kinda a crazy day in the GNAC....
scores look like this:

Johnson and Wales  98  Saint Joseph's  92
Lasell  87  Albertus Magnus 76
Daniel Webster 101  Norwich  91
Emerson 83  Suffolk  66
Mount Ida  58  Rivier  55

J&W's win isnt much of a surprise, neither is Lasell's or Emersons...but Mount Ida beating Rivier?? or Daniel Webster beating Norwich??  looks like the bottom half of the GNAC standings is getting interesting...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on February 09, 2008, 06:17:46 pm
just for the sake of chatter what are peoples thoughts for individual honors for the GNAC?  all conference, POY, ROY, COY?

My guess is they look something like this:

1st Team All GNAC
Jose Guitian-  Lasell
Japhet Kerr-  Johnson and Wales
Rob Williams-Hinton-  Emmanuel
Jaime Crawford- Lasell
Jeff Carpenter-  Rivier

2nd Team All GNAC
Ben Chase-  Emerson
Will Dawkins-  Emerson
Mack Spellman- Emmanuel
Elbie Murphy- St. Joe's
Tirone McCray- Johnson and Wales

3rd Team All GNAC
Jerrold Williams-  Norwich
Ray Eatmon- St. Joe's
Jamel Bedford- Norwich
Lance Bisson- Rivier
Dwayne Powell-  Lassell

POY-  Jose Guitian-  Lasell
COY-  Jamahl Jackson- Emmanuel
ROY-  Chris Hanson-  Daniel Webster
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: NortheastHoopsGuru on February 10, 2008, 11:41:36 am
Wow thats an embarrasing result for Riv. Anyone have any more info on exactly what went down in that game? The Daniel Webster game doesn't suprise me as much, they do have some talent, theyre just inexperianced. They are also streaky shooters, like Hanson and Inge, so if they got hot together its pretty tough to beat them. I'm a little suprised at how close the Emerson/Suffolk game was as well. Anyone know if emerson has Rouse and Messinger back? if those two are still out come gnac tournament time, the field is wide open for anyone.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: jamiejohn on February 12, 2008, 09:20:55 am
Rouse has played the last couple of games
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on February 12, 2008, 08:41:08 pm
winners of 10 of their last 11 I think Lasell is making a push for the top seed in the GNAC.  Guitian has been an absolute beast and theres really no reason he shouldnt get POY.   9 out of those 10 wins have been by 10+ points including 5 absolute blowouts (20+).  The only loss was a 1 point loss to a very good Johnson and Wales team. 

Tonite they beat conference leader Emmanuel by 14...84-70, @ Emmanuel

this is a team with enough talent to not only make the NCAA's but to represent the GNAC rather nicely...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 12, 2008, 09:18:31 pm
Ankles, Lasell won't make the #1 seed unless they finish ahead of Emerson outright - the Lions won in Newton 83-79 without Rouse and Messinger.

I'd love to see a rematch with R & M playing for Emerson - I haven't seen Lasell this year but have heard great things about Guitan and Crawford.

Lions won at Mt Ida 88-70 to go to 19-3.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on February 12, 2008, 09:30:48 pm
yea it'll definitely be difficult for Lasell to take #1 going into conf tourney but it is possble, its a 4 team race for top seed really with it right now being...

Emmanuel 13-2
Emerson 12-3
Johnson & Wales 12-4 (assuming they beat Albertus Magnus tonite)
Lasell 11-4

-its all but a guarantee Lasell finishes 14-4 (Suffolk, Daniel Webster, Mt. Ida)
-Emmanuel has a tough road with all their games being on the road against Emerson, -Johnson and Wales and St. Joes.  thats 3 of the top 5 teams in the conference.
-Emerson is @Rivier (no cakewalk but they should win), home vs Emmanuel, and home versus Norwich, no game is a guarantee but all 3 are winnable
-Johnson and Wales- assuming they beat Albertus Magnus tonite they will be 12-4 with just 2 home games, 1 vs Emmanuel and 1 vs Rivier.  again 2 very difficult games. 

if everyone else beats up on each other in the final 3 games of the season Lasells got a shot as they wont lose from here on out, they only hold the tie breaker with Emmanuel, J&W and Emerson both have the tie breaker against Lasell. 

its really emmanuels to lose but lose it they can with the toughest of the remaining schedules, if they can go 2-1 though the conference is theirs
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 12, 2008, 09:37:38 pm
absolutely....I didn't say it was impossible, Lasell has to win outright since they played emerson once and lost.

if things fall right they can get #1, but they can certainly can win the tourney even if they're not the #1 seed.

I think the conference has more depth than in past years - any of the top 4 teams could win through to get to get through.

Out of the 4 teams though, only Emerson has a chance to get an at-large bid if they don't win the tournament but make the finals based on their non-conference success...lasell had some close losses against some strong teams but emerson beat three NEWMAC's by 10+ along with William Patterson and Vassar.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on February 12, 2008, 09:56:55 pm
if Emerson wins out regular season wise and makes it to the conference final and loses and winds up around 24-4 it will certainly be hard for the committee to ignore a team with a winning percentage of .857 although as discussed on a few other boards the Northeast region is looking at probably 3 at large bids and unfortunately more of Emersons at large faith would likely be more in the hands of Amherst and Umass-Dartmouth winning their conference tournaments. 

Even one loss before the conference final I think eliminates Emersons chances at all of an at large bid just because their out of conference wins arent really that impressive.  William Patterson was a big win, Vassar was an ok win.  Their 3 wins vs. NEWMAC teams arent that great, the only one with at least a .500 record in the NEWMAC is Babson at 4-4 but they are 7-13 overall, Wheaton 12-8, MIT 12-10.  Sure they are nice wins but I just dont think they are at the caliber of wins needed for an At-Large bid playing in one of the 10 worst conferences according to the massey ratingss
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 12, 2008, 09:59:59 pm
I agree that Emerson would have to make the finals and other teams that are rated higher would have to win through to help Emerson's at large chances.

Can't disagree with that analysis ankles....I think it'll be really good tourney, especially if the top 4 teams reach the semi round of the GNAC's.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on February 12, 2008, 10:28:05 pm
definitely will be a great tournament, the GNAC has got to be one of the most competitive conferences in New England in terms of inner conference games.  the top 4 have all proven they can beat each other, and St. Joes isnt really that far behind at 9-5.  They appear to be at full strength for the first time in awhile, Murphy had an injury early on that made him miss the opener and still wasnt 100% when he began playing.  Eatmon missed 4 games in the middle of conference season where the monks went 2-2 with the 2 losses coming to Emmanuel by 7 and Lasell by 9, with Eatmon in the lineup it could have been a different story.  Also St. Joes has a kid by the name of Alonso Davis who is listed at 6'7 and he's extremely athletic, not one of those wasted height guys.  his stats are extremely impressive when he gets to play more than just 2 or 3 minutes.  In 8 games where he has been given significant minutes (meaning at least 8 minutes) he has averaged 11.3 points and 7.8 rebounds in just 14.8 minutes.  why he isnt used more is beyond me, the only thing I can think of is they are saving him as a weapon come playoff time?  hes been the monks most efficient player this year as evidence by his numbers in limited minutes.   
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: jamiejohn on February 12, 2008, 11:17:16 pm
I think lasell has the most talent. They should do very real in the gnac tourney. Also i dont think any gnac team will get a at- large bid. the only team that has a chance is emerson and they would have to make it to the finals and they still might not get it
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on February 14, 2008, 01:02:13 pm
Personally, I think anything less than an undefeated conference season for Lasell is a disappointment. Talent wise, they are a step or two ahead of everyone else in the league, but for some reason (my guess is coaching) they don't play as hard as they should. It looks like they're back on track, but I wouldn't be surprised if they lost early in the playoffs.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: old_hooper on February 14, 2008, 01:24:42 pm
I seriously doubt that GNAC will have anymore then the champion in the tournament.  A Pool C really would be a long shot based on the other teams that are truly in contention for one.  It has been said, that at most 3 for the NE.  I would think that the runner up from the NESCAC will get one and possibly another assuming Amherst wins it as of the regional standings.  Also, as it sits right now, UMass Darmouth is almost assured a Pool B if they don't win the conference championship.  The other team that is really on the bubble according to the poll is Brandeis.  They are in a heep of trouble if they lose two more games which very well could happen based on their schedule.  Still a couple weeks of games left and that will shake out things but I would think that the GNAC will only get one in the tournament.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: CCCalum2 on February 14, 2008, 01:52:10 pm
Personally, I think anything less than an undefeated conference season for Lasell is a disappointment. Talent wise, they are a step or two ahead of everyone else in the league, but for some reason (my guess is coaching) they don't play as hard as they should. It looks like they're back on track, but I wouldn't be surprised if they lost early in the playoffs.
buddy, I don't think that you have all your facts straight.  you are challenging them about playing hard and knocking the coach, but if you had all the facts, maybe your tune would change.  They were 4-1 before arguably their best player went down with and injury and they proceeded to drop some tough decisions in his absence.  Lost a tough won to Babson by 2, another tough one to #1 Amherst by 7.  They have dropped a few league games.  Twice to JWU, and once each to Emerson and Rivier.  No slouches their either.  Their non-league losses are Keene State, Babson, Amherst and Williams.  All quality teams.  I know Babson's record is not great, but they are a solid team.  It is very hard to run the table in any league, never mind in a league with a lot of parity.  18 league games is very tough to go undefeated.  I think they've responded very well to a tough stretch in the middle of their schedule and are now playing very well at the right time.  To say that it's a disappointment that they didn't run the table in the league is a bit of a stretch.  Again, make sure you know the facts before opening your mouth, or in this case, typing on your keyboard.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: creekhoops on February 14, 2008, 05:55:30 pm
Ok, back again for the first time in a year.  As the GNACs approach, lets discuss the best GNAC teams of all time.  Is it the 02-03 SVC team?  How about some of the Endicott teams early on, or perhaps an Emerson Squad late 90s? WNEC squads?  Suffolk 01 with Luisi?  How about JWU 03-04 that beat SVC twice in one week to win it all?  How do these teams stack up against what is out there now?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: t33white on February 14, 2008, 09:50:38 pm
Having played against the Emerson teams of the last 90's i would say they were some of the best.  the had great size, speed and shooters.  riv had some strong teams also.   the gnac was a tough conference back in the late 90's but emerson definately stood out as the team to beat every year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on February 15, 2008, 01:17:23 pm
Personally, I think anything less than an undefeated conference season for Lasell is a disappointment. Talent wise, they are a step or two ahead of everyone else in the league, but for some reason (my guess is coaching) they don't play as hard as they should. It looks like they're back on track, but I wouldn't be surprised if they lost early in the playoffs.
buddy, I don't think that you have all your facts straight.  you are challenging them about playing hard and knocking the coach, but if you had all the facts, maybe your tune would change.  They were 4-1 before arguably their best player went down with and injury and they proceeded to drop some tough decisions in his absence.  Lost a tough won to Babson by 2, another tough one to #1 Amherst by 7.  They have dropped a few league games.  Twice to JWU, and once each to Emerson and Rivier.  No slouches their either.  Their non-league losses are Keene State, Babson, Amherst and Williams.  All quality teams.  I know Babson's record is not great, but they are a solid team.  It is very hard to run the table in any league, never mind in a league with a lot of parity.  18 league games is very tough to go undefeated.  I think they've responded very well to a tough stretch in the middle of their schedule and are now playing very well at the right time.  To say that it's a disappointment that they didn't run the table in the league is a bit of a stretch.  Again, make sure you know the facts before opening your mouth, or in this case, typing on your keyboard.
Personally, I think anything less than an undefeated conference season for Lasell is a disappointment. Talent wise, they are a step or two ahead of everyone else in the league, but for some reason (my guess is coaching) they don't play as hard as they should. It looks like they're back on track, but I wouldn't be surprised if they lost early in the playoffs.
buddy, I don't think that you have all your facts straight.  you are challenging them about playing hard and knocking the coach, but if you had all the facts, maybe your tune would change.  They were 4-1 before arguably their best player went down with and injury and they proceeded to drop some tough decisions in his absence.  Lost a tough won to Babson by 2, another tough one to #1 Amherst by 7.  They have dropped a few league games.  Twice to JWU, and once each to Emerson and Rivier.  No slouches their either.  Their non-league losses are Keene State, Babson, Amherst and Williams.  All quality teams.  I know Babson's record is not great, but they are a solid team.  It is very hard to run the table in any league, never mind in a league with a lot of parity.  18 league games is very tough to go undefeated.  I think they've responded very well to a tough stretch in the middle of their schedule and are now playing very well at the right time.  To say that it's a disappointment that they didn't run the table in the league is a bit of a stretch.  Again, make sure you know the facts before opening your mouth, or in this case, typing on your keyboard.


Sounds good, I guess, if you want to make excuses. But the FACT of the matter is, they have the tallest player in the league, by about a foot, who is also incredibly athletic, can shoot from the outside and absolutely dominates at this level (not to mention, according to this board, he is also player of the year) their entire starting five is more talented and more athletic than any other team's in the league. If their best player went down with an injury that should only give them more reason to win, not an excuse to lose. To be honest, it doesn't matter what you say...I totally agree that their non conference schedule is tough, thats why i said they should have gone undefeated IN THE CONFERENCE.If they just stayed focused on winning instead of talking trash, I'm sure they would have done much better this season....and I do know one fact. Discipline is instilled by a coach, not by a best player (who happened to go down with an injury)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: jamiejohn on February 15, 2008, 01:23:53 pm
Its defiantly a disappointing year for lasell, this is the year they needed to make it to the ncaa. There losing Crawford the best player in the league and Powell the best pg in the league.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 15, 2008, 01:48:50 pm


I have to disagree with unsung on a number of points presented. I will agree that Guitian is a special player and will be GNAC 1st team and possibly POY. I haven't seen him play but I have heard a lot of great things about him. However, unless his height is not listed properly on the Lasell website, at 6'9" he is not a foot taller than everyone else in the league. Since Levi Smith of Emmanuel is 6'7" I'd have to say that's one of the most ridiculous statements I've seen in a long time unless two inches is now equivalent to one foot.

Also, to say that Lasell should run the table in the conference....also a baseless statement. The league is solid this year w/Emmanuel, Wales, and Emerson playing very well and Rivier and St. Joe's have solid squads as well. In my opinion, if you state that one team should run the table they should be light years ahead of the other teams they play. No knock on Lasell, they are very good but certainly there is not that large of a divide between them and 3-4 teams in the league. How you can you that they should have run the table?  Emerson beat Lasell in Newton without Rouse and Messinger - if they were that much better they should have rolled by a ton - but they didn't because both of those teams are very talented and will play close games. As for the best starting 5, I'd say that you'd get varying opinions about which team has the five in the GNAC because of the talent level and competition.

It's not as clear cut as you think and I think the GNAC tournament games will bear that out - I think we're in for a great week of well played, tight games that go down to the end.


Personally, I think anything less than an undefeated conference season for Lasell is a disappointment. Talent wise, they are a step or two ahead of everyone else in the league, but for some reason (my guess is coaching) they don't play as hard as they should. It looks like they're back on track, but I wouldn't be surprised if they lost early in the playoffs.


buddy, I don't think that you have all your facts straight.  you are challenging them about playing hard and knocking the coach, but if you had all the facts, maybe your tune would change.  They were 4-1 before arguably their best player went down with and injury and they proceeded to drop some tough decisions in his absence.  Lost a tough won to Babson by 2, another tough one to #1 Amherst by 7.  They have dropped a few league games.  Twice to JWU, and once each to Emerson and Rivier.  No slouches their either.  Their non-league losses are Keene State, Babson, Amherst and Williams.  All quality teams.  I know Babson's record is not great, but they are a solid team.  It is very hard to run the table in any league, never mind in a league with a lot of parity.  18 league games is very tough to go undefeated.  I think they've responded very well to a tough stretch in the middle of their schedule and are now playing very well at the right time.  To say that it's a disappointment that they didn't run the table in the league is a bit of a stretch.  Again, make sure you know the facts before opening your mouth, or in this case, typing on your keyboard.


Sounds good, I guess, if you want to make excuses. But the FACT of the matter is, they have the tallest player in the league, by about a foot, who is also incredibly athletic, can shoot from the outside and absolutely dominates at this level (not to mention, according to this board, he is also player of the year) their entire starting five is more talented and more athletic than any other team's in the league. If their best player went down with an injury that should only give them more reason to win, not an excuse to lose. To be honest, it doesn't matter what you say...I totally agree that their non conference schedule is tough, thats why i said they should have gone undefeated IN THE CONFERENCE.If they just stayed focused on winning instead of talking trash, I'm sure they would have done much better this season....and I do know one fact. Discipline is instilled by a coach, not by a best player (who happened to go down with an injury)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on February 16, 2008, 07:52:11 pm
Looks like with Emmanuel and Emersons win that Tuesday may bring a huge game!

I also find it odd that Emerson now with 20 wins and only 3 losses gets no love regionally let alone nationally.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 16, 2008, 09:09:26 pm
Great game between Emerson and Riv at the Muldoon today.

Rivier led 48-34 with approx. 15 to play, only to see the Lions run off 16 straight points keyed by  Jeremy Shannon's ability to get to the hoop.

Riv bounced back and led 65-60 with a minute to play, but Ben Chase hit a big 3 and Shannon got to the rack for a finger roll layup with 3 seconds to play in regulation.

OT went back and forth, Lions led by two - Riv had the last possession and Jeff Carpenter was fouled with no time on the clock. Carp missed the first attempt and the Lions earned a hard fought 20th win of the season.

Carp had 17 and 10 rebounds for Riv, Lions were led by Ben Chase with 17 and Jeremy Shannon with 16. Free throws were a big factor - Emerson made 22 of 32 and Riv only 7 of 19.

1st place and most likely the regular season championship on line Tuesday when Emerson and Emmanuel meet at the Lions Den- game time 7 PM.

As far as the Emerson/no love comment, I think that is a reflection on the league as a whole....in 13 seasons the GNAC never gets props, even though it continues to get better every year. I think the non-conference games tell a different story - Emerson beat three NEWMAC teams and Lasell played a number of close games vs. top schools in the NE...and Rivier took Wheaton (IL) to OT.

Over the next 2-3 years the GNAC and its teams will get better PR if they can make some noise in the NCAA tournament....success has been mixed, but we haven't had a sweet 16 team yet - one or two appearances in the 16 and others will be turned on to what we already know to be true.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 19, 2008, 10:08:33 pm
Emerson 82-79 over Emmanuel - Lions tie for 1st in the GNAC and hold the tiebreak for the #1 seed in the GNAC tournament with their win over Lasell in early January.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: The Den Dweller on February 19, 2008, 10:36:22 pm
I was wondering for us people over here in LA if someone could give us an in depth recap of the Emerson vs. Emmanuel game, we heard it was crazy
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on February 19, 2008, 10:37:48 pm
the GNAC is still a crazy mess in terms of figuring out seedings some scores from tonite...

St. Joe's 79  Mount Ida 70
Lasell 78 Daniel Webster 60
Emerson 82  Emmanuel 79
Johnson & Wales 90 Rivier 82
Suffolk 93 Norwich 85

pretty strait forward once again for the most part, Emerson/Emmanuel was a toss up, not surprised Emerson won esp if they are at full strength now. 

HOW DID SUFFOLK BEAT NORWICH???  suffolk was 2-21 coming into the game and norwich has beatin Emerson, Emmanuel, Johnson & Wales, St. Joes and they LOSE to Suffolk and Daniel Webster??  talk about up and down my gosh...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: ILive4This on February 20, 2008, 12:04:56 am
I watched Suffolk get absolutely blown out by Brandeis earlier this season, however I also saw a few other things. They has some size both height and physicalness. Also they had a couple decent shooters. If all of that comes together on a night then there is a chance for a win, especially in a conference like the GNAC which no offense to anyone is not exactly the toughest of conferences.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 20, 2008, 12:22:39 pm
I think you could say that holds true for the conference as a whole - the teams in the lower half of the conference are not strong and are certainly not as strong as the bottom teams in the elite conferences of New England - however, I think there are teams in the GNAC as well as the NAC or CCC that can hang with the NESCAC's etc.

Look at the bottom two team in the NE Poster's poll - Emerson and Elms for proof - Emerson beat three NEWMAC's by 10+ and Elms lost to Amherst by 6 and Brandeis by 1 in OT.

Suffolk's win isn't that surprising - an 11 beating the 7th place team in any conference is not that unusual, especially when the underdog shoots 13-25 from 3-pt land. I think that can happen in any conference - look at the number of times it's happened in conference tournaments over the years in D-1, 2, or 3.  It's not as if Suffolk beat one of the top 3 teams in the GNAC.


I watched Suffolk get absolutely blown out by Brandeis earlier this season, however I also saw a few other things. They has some size both height and physicalness. Also they had a couple decent shooters. If all of that comes together on a night then there is a chance for a win, especially in a conference like the GNAC which no offense to anyone is not exactly the toughest of conferences.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: jamiejohn on February 20, 2008, 03:58:16 pm
Norwich is a tough place to play anytime you win there its a good win, they beat Emerson and Emmanuel up there this year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: newenglandball on February 22, 2008, 07:09:57 am
Miracle Overtime Buzzer-Beater Sends Newbury Past Eagles 

Nashua – Two seconds can seem like a lifetime. Unfortunately for the Eagles men’s basketball team, they found that out the hardest way imaginable Thursday night.

Two seconds away from forcing a second overtime after Eagle freshman Chris Hanson (Salem, Mass.) sank two pressure-packed free throws to tie the game at 97, Newbury guard Steve Morris (Somerville, Mass.) answered with a 75-foot miracle that hit nothing but net as the buzzer sounded giving the visiting Nighthawks a stunning 100-97 victory in a wild matchup of future New England Collegiate rivals at a raucous Vagge Gymnasium.

Morris, who had initially forced overtime knocking down a three pointer with 21 seconds to play in regulation, took the inbounds pass from Javon Mathis (Plainville, Conn.) and heaved the ball from the far right corner knocking down the longest shot recorded in Vagge Gymnasium history in a regular season game.

The win was the eighth straight for the Nighthawks (17-7), while the Eagles (7-17) dropped their fourth straight.

Kevin Cleveland (Lynn, Mass.) led all scorers for Newbury pouring in 28 points, going 13 of 16 from the field and added 12 rebounds. Arch Mitchell (Framingham, Mass.) knocked down 21, while Mathis chipped in with 18. Morris finished with 14.

Hanson led Daniel Webster with 19 points including five three-pointers, while Adam Landry (Vernon, Conn.) knocked down five more from outside on the way to 18 points. Tim Jackson (West Henrietta, N.Y.) added 11 while Steve Savage (Salem, N.H.) chipped in with 10.

Senior Eagle captain Ryan Middlemiss (Methuen, Mass.), playing in his final home game and honored in a pregame ceremony, dished out a game and career best nine assists and added eight rebounds and five points.

Newbury led by six (44-39) at the half and by as many as 13 in the second before a pair of wild swings led to overtime.

Trailing by 11 at 74-63 with 9:09 to go in regulation, the Eagles mounted a furious comeback with an 18-5 run consuming 4:24 to take the lead. Hanson knocked down a three with 6:34 left for a 77-74 Newbury lead, followed with another with 5:11 to go to cut it to one, and Landry added another for an 81-79 lead with 4:45 left.

After building the lead to 88-81 with 2:18 to after a Hanson jumper, Newbury responded with a wild finish to force overtime. After Cleveland buried two free throws, he followed with a lay up with 1:21 left setting up Morris’s first heroics.

Newbury opened the extra session with the first six points thanks to a dunk and layup from Cleveland.

Trailing by five (97-92) with 51 seconds left, Jackson knocked down a three with 40 seconds to go and Middlemiss followed with a steal of Morris with 16 seconds left.

Hanson was then fouled outside the arc and sank both freebies with 2.1 seconds to go, setting up the Morris miracle.

The Eagles, who still own the eighth and final playoff spot for the upcoming GNAC tournament, close their regular season Saturday at Rivier beginning at 1:00 p.m. The Eagles hold a one-game lead over Mount Ida for the final spot. Mount Ida travels to Lasell for a 1:00 p.m. matchup. The Eagles can clinch a tournament spot with a victory or a Mount Ida loss.

Newbury travels to Green Mountain Saturday for the four-team Association of Division III Independents Northeast championships. The Nighthawks face future NECC rival Southern Vermont at 5:30 p.m.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 23, 2008, 03:11:51 pm
Lions roll past Norwich today at the Lions Den 74-48. Emerson grabs the GNAC regular season title and the #1 seed in the conference tournament starting Tuesday.

Lions led 40-21 at the half and turned in a complete fahty minute effort as they held Norwich to a season low 48 points, which was the Lions lowest allowed total as well as the Cadets lowest offensive output of the season.

Once today's action is over the conference tournament seeds/pairings will be officially announced and we'll have Tuesday's quarterfinal match-ups.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on February 23, 2008, 05:47:13 pm
With an Emmanuel loss--which is somewhat surprising Lasell gets 2nd in the league...I guess due to a tie-breaker.

Looks like Emmanuel may not recover from  the Emerson loss.

Congrats to Emerson on a great season as well.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 23, 2008, 08:32:50 pm
Why is it surprising that the Monks beat Emmanuel? St. Joe's lost to Emerson by 10, Lasell by 9 and Wales by 6 so they are playing close games in conference and the opener vs Wales should be a great game in Providence.

Even if Emmanuel won today, Emerson held the tiebreaker over the Saints - Lions beat Lasell, and Lasell beat Emmanuel, so Emerson would be the regular season champ and the #1 seed regardless of the outcome of the Saints-Monks game in Standish. Since the Lions the won and the Saints lost, Emerson wins the regular season title outright.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 34whistle on February 24, 2008, 08:42:12 am
It looks like Tuesday’s games are going to be exciting one.  I do believe come Saturday it should be Emerson versus Lasell in the finals. St’ Joe’s and Johnson & Wales just are strong enough to compete with  Emmanuel, Emerson or Lasell. Don’t get me wrong they are both good teams but certainly  we wont see them in the final.  Emmanuel  definitely has not recovered since their lost to Lasell a few weeks back. Emerson is back at full strength now, and Lasell has been playing  some of its best basketball of the year these past few weeks. It should be an exciting week.

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: crazyecbballfan823 on February 24, 2008, 12:14:19 pm
I agree that it should be an exciting week in the GNAC and I also want to remind people that last year both the #1 and #2 teams got knocked off in the playoffs. The playoffs last year had the #4 and #5 seed going for the title and I think that anything could happen this year as well. Yah Emerson and Lasell are the top two right now, but who's to say that Emmanuel can't spring back?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 24, 2008, 10:14:05 pm
Not only that, but Wales is solid and St. Joe's could make a run as well....and the 6th seed is Riv who's played everyone tough plus they defend and rebound well. I think the conference play has been very good this year and this is one of the deepest seasons in the twelve years of the GNAC.

As I said before....this has the chance to be a great week.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on February 25, 2008, 01:10:49 pm
I agree this week should be very interesting in the GNAC...hopefully there are some great upsets worth talking about.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on February 25, 2008, 04:53:13 pm
As competitive as the GNAC has been this season with lots of the top teams beating up on each other throughout the season and teams like norwich stealing some BIG wins one would think the GNAC tournament would be filled with some interesting games and expect at least 2 or 3 upsets but with the way the playoff games are set up it looks like things are going to be rather predictable.

#1 Emerson hosts #8 Daniel Webster:
Emerson has been the most consistent team in the GNAC this year as evidence by there 22-3 overall record.  They went 11-1 at home this year including a blowout 30 point win versus Daniel Webster about a month ago.  Theres virtually no way Emerson doesnt win this game, its just a matter of picking an over under...might as well set that at around 23.

#4 Johnson and Wales hosts #5 St. Joseph's:
As expected by the seedings this looks like the most interesting game.  St. Joe's is coming off an impressive win vs Emmanuel to cap off the season and J&W finished the season...sloppy to say the least.   Going 2-5 in their final 7 games I dont think any of us saw.   The most interesting of those 7 games in relation to this matchup with St. Joe's came February 9th when they hosted, and beat St. Joe's 98-92, in OT.  Momentum appears to clearly be in St. Joe's favor however J&W has played very well on their home court this season going 9-3 with impressive wins over Lasell and Roger Williams as well as a 3 point loss to the NESCAC's Conn. College.  I truly believe this game will come down to Elbie Murphy and his efficiency, the standout from St. Joe's led the nation in steals last year but found himself in foul trouble a fair amount as well.  If he stays on the floor and is intelligent with his shot selection St. Joe's comes out with a win, if he struggles and winds up shooting 6-19 from the floor St. Joe's has no chance.  My prediction:  St. Joe's wins by 8-10.

#3 Emmanuel hosts #6 Rivier:
Another great matchup.  Emmanuel ends the season on a slide with back to back losses to Emerson and St. Joe's but I cant see Rivier coming into Boston and stealing a win.  It is very difficult to beat a team 3 times in the same season, but Emmanuel went 9-1 at home in conference play this season and is just too good for Rivier, not to say Rivier cant come in and win because they most certainly can, however I just dont see it happening.  Emmanuel wins by double digits.

#2 Lasell hosts #7 Norwich:
Norwich has been a crazy team this year.  They beat Emerson, Emmanuel, Johnson & Wales, St. Joe's, but lost to Mt. Ida, Suffolk, and Daniel Webster??? Regardless no team in the GNAC is as hot as Lasell right now winners of 13 of 14 including their final 9.  Only 1 of those 13 wins was by less than 10 points (won by 9 vs St. Joe's).  The point is they are winning and doing it VERY convincingly.  This has blowout written all over it.  Lasell by 20+

That would make the semis look like this:

#1 Emerson hosts #5 St. Joe's
#2 Lasell hosts #3 Emmanuel

And then we would be looking at some great games...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: uconn05 on February 25, 2008, 11:34:26 pm
Great preview Ankles... i agree with all of your picks.  Does the gnac go to the highest seed's court for the final four?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on February 26, 2008, 01:01:48 pm
yes it does. the semi's will be at Emerson and Lasell, if they win, but like Ankles said, I can't see either team losing either.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 34whistle on February 26, 2008, 03:04:12 pm
I agree! I don't see anyone but lasell and emerson in the finals.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on February 26, 2008, 10:20:55 pm
good call ankles. looks like you're 3-0. Any predictions for the semi's? i say Emerson Lasell in the finals. should be a great end of the week no matter what teams advance
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: crazyecbballfan823 on February 26, 2008, 11:50:18 pm
i'd say watch out for emmanuel...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 27, 2008, 09:49:34 am
The semi's should be good - I don't think it's as clearcut as most make it out to be....yes, it could be Lasell-Emerson in the finals but any of the other matchups are just as feasible.

Gotta earn it to make it to Saturday.....can't wait for tomorrow night.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on February 27, 2008, 03:04:20 pm
The 1st round went pretty much exactly how I envisioned it, the semis certainly look much more interesting....

I'll start out with the 2/3 matchup....

#2 Lasell hosts #3 Emmanuel:
This game certainly can go either way, I think Lasell certainly has a couple advantages starting with Crawford and Guitian.  A 6'5 guard and a 6'9 Forward/Center combining for 39.9ppg, and 17rpg will be very difficult to contain.  Powell does a more than adequate job of running things at the point so if Lasell does there thing it really doesnt matter what Emmanuel does because Lasell's best will beat Emmaneul's best any day of the week.  That being said Lasell doesnt always bring it like they need to, they have over the past month or so in rather convincing fashion.  The matchup 2 weeks ago I think is a good indicator of what is likely to happen in this game (lasell won 84-70 Guitian had a game high 26 and 17).  Emmanuel certainly has a shot but everything needs to go right and a few things need to go wrong for lasell, I just dont see that happening.  Lasell wins by 10+ but the game is much closer than the score will indicate.

#1 Emerson hosts #5 St. Joseph's:
This one I'm excited about.  First and foremost is Rouse going to be playing??  I didnt see his name in the box score...

I think his presence largely impacts this game one way or the other.  Lets examine both scenerios:
Rouse DOES play:
Emerson becomes a much bigger favorite.  At the beginning of the month the Monks visited Emerson and Emerson prevailed with a 10 point win, examining that game particularly on St. Joseph's side of things:
Anyone who has seen St. Joe's play knows they have 3 KEY players who must contribute if they are going to win against a great team like Emerson, Elbie Murphy, Alberto Rue (shooter), and Ray Eatmon.   In that early february matchup the trio put up less than stellar numbers:
Murphy:  6-13 FG, 1-5 3Pt, 20 points, 5 rebounds, 6 assists, 3 steals
Rue: 3-6 FG, 2-3 3PT, 8 points, 3 rebounds
Eatmon:  1-8 FG, 2 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 blocks, 2 steals

Murphys line isnt too bad, rather impressive actually very balanced, thats the type of player he is, but its important for Rue to stretch the defense by putting up 8-10 shots at least and with the way hes shot the 3 ball this year (51-110 3PT, 46%) 10+ shots isnt a bad idea.  Rue opens things up for Eatmon who shot 58% from the floor this year so his 1-8 showing was extremely uncharacteristic and cant be expected again.  It really starts with Murphy, if he does his part (18-22 points) grabs 5 or so rebounds and is an absolute hassle on defense he's putting the Monks in a situation to win, however it ends with the rest of the team.  Rue and Eatmon both need double figures efficiently and then they need an x-factor to step up and that could be one of 3 people, C. Davis, A. Davis, R. Mattison.  Most likely C. Davis.   So if St. Joes wins its because Murphy did his balanced line, Rue and Eatmon both hit double figures, and C. Davis stepped up with a big 8 points 6 rebounds off the bench. 

I personally don't see that happening as St. Joe's has just been far too inconsistent this year and Emerson has been just the opposite, very consistent.

If Rouse DOESNT play:
St. Joe's doesnt need to play quite so perfect they might be able to get by on their scrappy-ness.  They still need Murphy to come up big but to counteract that if Dawkins takes over Emerson still has got to be the favorite. 

I like Emerson, keeping about an 8 point lead all game, FT shooting in the final minutes stretches it to a 13 point win or so.

then its Emerson vs Lasell!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 34whistle on February 27, 2008, 05:30:46 pm
Ankles you nailed it with your preview.  I think Emmanuel is good, but not good enough to beat Lasell.  Their match up a few weeks ago really showed that when Lasell is on, they are the almost impossible to beat. I look forward to seeing Lasell  vs.  Emerson on Saturday
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on February 27, 2008, 05:31:54 pm
I like your insight Ankles, and i actually looked forward to reading. I must say tho, I do agree with you on the fact that Lasell has to bring it to beat Emmanuel. Although Lasell might be more talented, I must admit when it comes playoff time, Emmanuel is a completely different team. They somehow elevate their game throughout the playoffs every year to a higher level, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they win in upset fashion. I remember distinctly in last years semi's they were absolutely flawless when they took on top seeded Western New England, i believe they were close to 100% on their free throws and had less that 10 turnovers all game. I know for a fact they are gonna be pumped up to play especially since they were so close to the NCAA's and a GNAC title last year. Looks like tomorrow night should be interesting...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: crazyecbballfan823 on February 27, 2008, 10:14:41 pm
Thank you UnsugHero, I couldn't agree more. I think people are continuing to overlook the fact that the GNAC playoffs the last two years have not been consistent with predictions... let's see what happens tomorrow, it should be good!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on February 28, 2008, 09:07:26 pm
Looks like Emerson/Lasell on Saturday Afternoon, but it also looks like Emmanuel and St. Joe's didn't go quietly. Any details on the games? I'm sure they were pretty good, and Saturday looks to be a great Championship game.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on February 29, 2008, 02:16:25 pm
Emerson vs St. Joes couldnt have been more of what I thought would happen had I scripted the game.

Final Score 79-75

clearly St. Joseph's put themselves in a position to win losing by only 4, and how did they do it? Elbie Murphy led things for the monks with a josh smith esque line of 14pts, 4rebs, 3as, 2blks, 2stls.  Eatmon reached double figures (10 pts) as did  Rue (14 pts on 4-6 from 3PT).  The x-factors that stepped up for St. Joe's were somewhat of a surprise, but the starting backcourt of Vachon and Friend combined for 20 pts (10 apiece). 

The difference....
Bryan Rouse
absolute domination of efficiency.  28 points, 8 rebounds on 9-11 FG and 10-11 from the line.  All done in a modest 29 minutes. 

Sounds like a great battle and with St. Joe's having ZERO seniors on the roster and Sanicola sure to bring in some other freshmen ready to play right away I think the monks might be a favorite heading into next season.

Lasell wins by 9, pretty much no surprse, I have a feeling the game was a bit closer than 9 that FT at the end stretched the score out a bit.

Even with Rouse playing as he did against St. Joe's I'm just not sure Emerson will have the firepower to keep up with Lasell in the final.  Regardless, it should be a great game 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 29, 2008, 08:47:35 pm
Ankles -

I'm a bit surprised at that statement considering Emerson beat Lasell in Newton without Rouse and Messinger - considering they are both back and playing well, how can Emerson NOT have the firepower to win again? 2nd in the nation in FG% and 3-pt FG% - I think there's plenty of weapons for the Lions.

Great job with the previews - everything played out as you scripted. Tomorrow should be a great game.

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Even with Rouse playing as he did against St. Joe's I'm just not sure Emerson will have the firepower to keep up with Lasell in the final.  Regardless, it should be a great game.
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Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on March 01, 2008, 01:28:26 pm
perhaps firepower was the wrong word...
Emerson certainly has the offensive ability to offensively play with just about anyone due in large part to their efficiency (as you mentioned) the point I was eluding to is that Lasell is all about downright outscoring you, and over 15 of their last 16 games they have been very successful at that.  For the season on average Lasell takes 9 more FG attempts per game than Emerson does (63 attempts vs 54) 
Now that doesnt mean Lasell is for sure going to take more shots than Emerson their earlier matchup this year shows us.  And its worth pointing out the game story for that game:  Emerson won 83-79, and the box score shows about as dead even of a game as it could have possibly been.  Both teams took the exact same number of FG attempts, Emerson shot 33-57, Lasell 32-57.   Lasell killed Emerson on the boards (again no Rouse) 36-14.  The biggest thing in my eyes was the turnover situation, taking care of the basketball baby!  Lasell had 20 giveaways to Emersons 11.  and Emerson came away with 14 steals.   Also had Ben Chase not shot 12-16, 6-7 from 3PT en route to 30 points, Im pretty sure Emerson doesnt win.

For this upcoming championship game I expect this.
Lasell DOES put up at least 5 more FG attempts (which could be big).  Emerson shoots around 50-52% from the floor, Lasell shoots around 47-49%.  The boards get dominated by Guitian and Lasell (even with Rouse).  The Lasers hold Ben Chase in check (to an extent, no 6-7 from 3 stuff).  Emerson will remain very efficient from the field and the free throw line.  However I expect Lasell to limit their TO's to 15 or under.  Guitian and Crawford combine for at least 36 points and the supporting cast gets enough done to pull out the win.  Rouse, Shannon, Chase, and Dawkins will have solid games but it comes down to just one of them taking over which I just dont feel is going to happen (if it does my bets on Dawkins). 

My guess:
Final Score    Lasell 87  Emerson 83
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on March 01, 2008, 01:55:44 pm
Just wanted to pass this along for anyone who hadnt seen it yet, All Conference teams and awards were presented the other day....

First Team:
Jeremy Shannon Guard, Sophomore - Emerson
Rob Williams-Hinton Guard, Junior - Emmanuel
Japhet Kerr Guard, Senior - Johnson & Wales
Jose Guitian Center, Junior - Lasell
Jeff Carpenter Forward, Senior - Rivier

Second Team:
Ben Chase Forward Senior, - Emerson
Mack Spellman Forward, Junior - Emmanuel
Greg Samuels Forward, Senior - Johnson & Wales
Jaime Crawford Forward, Senior - Lasell
Elbie Murphy Forward, Junior - Saint Joseph's

Third Team:
Will Dawkins Guard, Senior - Emerson
Tirone McCray Forward, Senior - Johnson & Wales
Dwayne Powell Guard, Senior - Lasell
Jerrold Williams Guard, Junior - Norwich
Raymond Eatmon Forward, Sophomore - Saint Joseph's

Player of the Year:  Jeremy Shannon- Emerson

Rookie of the Year:  Chris Hanson- Daniel Webster

Defensive Player of the Year:  Jeremy Shannon- Emerson

Coach of the Year:  Hank Smith- Emerson
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: jamiejohn on March 01, 2008, 03:02:02 pm
Games over lasers wins by double digits but it was much closer then that. the big 3 for lasell had 68 points, shannon played very well had close to 30
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on March 01, 2008, 06:26:05 pm
wow im not sure I could have been more wrong on this one.  Lasell wins handily with Guitian and Crawford leading the way but as for the game story itself I was way off.  Emerson put up 17 MORE shots than Lasell but were not the typically efficient team they had been all season.  Emerson shot just 41.2% from the floor including 6-24 from 3pt land.  Lasell had 21 giveways to Emersons 11 which I thought if that was gonna happen there would be no way Lasell would win this game   Lasell was EXTREMELY efficient from everywhere shooting wise 54.9% from the floor, 48% from 3 (12-25), and 81.8% from the free throw line.  They did control the boards (37-30) and allowed GNAC Player of the Year Shannon to go off and have a stellar game but held the other big 3 in check. 

Hats of to Lasell for really getting things done and finishing the season out in very strong fashion.  They really had a gameplan against Emerson today and executed it to near perfection. 

I really think this Lasell team can make some noise in the NCAA's winning a game or two (maybe more if they get a great draw).  But it will be very interesting to see what happens with Emerson they had a terrific season finishing 24-4 although I personally think the selction committee will frown upon their out of conference schedule and simply fail to see any BIG wins needed to warrant an at large bid.  Regardless I expect to see them getting the top seed in the ECAC's should thy chose to accept.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on March 01, 2008, 07:34:18 pm
Ankles, i was just wondering(in your opinion), do you think its completely out of the question that Emerson gets an At-large bid? I realize its not about how many wins, and its about who you beat, regardless, the NCAA committee has to look at Emerson, they had only 4 losses all season, and 24 wins... that has to account for something, no?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on March 01, 2008, 09:03:28 pm
unfortunately no theres a zero percent chance they get an at large after the way today went.

amherst, umd, and brandeis all missing out on AQ's puts them into the NCAA's by way of an at large bid, and then still in front of Emerson is trinity and middlebury in terms of being considered for an at large bid and its extremely unlikely both of those teams receive bids as well.  Emerson although having had a tremendous season going 24-4 and playing great basketball every game they did not beat anyone.  They need to have at least 4-5 legit out of conference games, MIT, wheaton, babson, etc. they are ok teams but they cant be the toughest competition you face all year.  If they were to schedule a Keene State, Middlebury, WPI, Salem State, and Tufts they would at least have the foundation for a good solid respectable out of conference schedule that they should still win a number of games with.  Keene State will be amongst the tops of the LEC, Middlebury is a top NESCAC team, WPI is tops in the NEWMAC, salem is tops in theirs, and tufts/bates is a good team who might have struggled this year but is still a worthy opponent on anyones schedule.  All of these are winnable games, if they could get a RIC, Williams, Amherst type team or even better 2 that would be ideal but unlikely to happen.  They cant afford to have Babson, Wheaton, and MIT be the cream of their out of conference play when they play in the GNAC.   Even a close loss to Amherst is probably worth more than wins over each of those 3 teams in the committees eyes.

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: kmk72289 on March 01, 2008, 09:34:39 pm
Lasers just outplayed Emerson today.  Dawkins only had around 7 points today and Rause was in foul trouble and didn't play much of the second half.  Shannon proved worthy of GNAC player of the year, he put in around 30, but the big three of Guitian, Crawford and Caravoulis was just too much, as they put up 20+ points a piece.

...And yeah, there's no chance of an at large at this point.  If Salem State, UMD, Brandeis, Amherst, among others had won their conferences, then maybe I'd say there's a chance, but not now.  It was a good season regardless, though.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 01, 2008, 09:38:40 pm
Ankles, i was just wondering(in your opinion), do you think its completely out of the question that Emerson gets an At-large bid? I realize its not about how many wins, and its about who you beat, regardless, the NCAA committee has to look at Emerson, they had only 4 losses all season, and 24 wins... that has to account for something, no?

The process involves making a regional ranking for every region like they've been releasing the last few weeks.  These final rankings are never released.  They use primarily regional record and a computation of opponent's winning percentage and opponents-opponent's winning percentage (so beating good teams in bad conferences aren't as valuable as they used to be).  They also take into account who teams beat and head-to-head against other top teams, but these are lesser criteria.

Once they get these together they remove all the teams who won automatic bids and teams that were awarded pool B bids.  Finally they take the top remaining team from each region and put them "on the table."  Then, using other complex criteria, they pick the best team.  Once that team is given an at-large bid, they take the next highest team from that region and replace the one chosen "on the table."  Theoretically, one region could supply all the at-large bids, although that's probably mathematically impossible.

All that to say, Emerson will have 4-5 teams (at least) will still be there above Emerson.  So they have to survive not only 4-5 teams from their own region, but a number of teams from other regions as well.  There's only, what? 17 at-large spots and there are locks in other regions like Amherst is in NE.  I'm not sure if Emerson will even make it to the table.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: baseballguy on March 01, 2008, 09:47:13 pm
Emerson has no shot.  With UMD, Amherst, Brandeis seemingly locks for Pool C.  I would take the loser of WPI/CGA NEWMAC final before Emerson
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 02, 2008, 12:04:23 am

Some of the guys who run numbers are saying Emerson may still have a chance.  We'll see, but stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: kmk72289 on March 02, 2008, 12:10:59 am
so just to clarify from one of your above posts, you're saying that theoretically one region could supply all 17 at-large bids?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 02, 2008, 02:39:29 pm
so just to clarify from one of your above posts, you're saying that theoretically one region could supply all 17 at-large bids?

Yes, theoretically, but realistically there's almost no way it's possible to have that many teams with regional records strong enough to trump the rest of the country.  The mere fact that a lot of them play each other, it precludes that outcome, but there is no division of bids by region.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: jamiejohn on March 02, 2008, 03:16:03 pm
another blow for emerson, coast guard beating wpi
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: hoops on March 02, 2008, 05:22:19 pm
anyone know if carpenter from rivier is looking to pursue professional options he had a great career in the GNAC. 1500+pts and 1000+ reb
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Marty Peretz on March 02, 2008, 08:33:23 pm
Moral of the story for Emerson: Next year, go out and play somebody in the nonconference. Sucks that you won't get in this year, but MIT as your biggest win won't do the trick. Play a Nescac. Play UMD, Deis, anybody.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on March 02, 2008, 08:39:18 pm
Wouldn't William Paterson be their biggest win?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 02, 2008, 08:49:10 pm


It's looking like they'll be in behind Middlebury on the NE list.

Amherst, Brandeis, UMASS-D seem absolute locks.

Next comes Bowdoin and WPI who have good shots.

Then you have Middlebury really on the bubble and Emerson even more so.

It's not out of the question, but it doesn't look good.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on March 02, 2008, 08:57:57 pm
Hoops fan-

Maybe you could answer this.

Do the committee's only count regional records?

Like for Emerson does a William Paterson win account for anything?

Or if a team from the west coast came and beat a Williams?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 02, 2008, 09:06:37 pm
Hoops fan-

Maybe you could answer this.

Do the committee's only count regional records?

Like for Emerson does a William Paterson win account for anything?

Or if a team from the west coast came and beat a Williams?


They expanded the definition of regional record this year.  I forget the specifics, but I believe the William Patterson game would count.  However, William Patterson is still very much a question mark themselves and I have to think they're ahead of Emerson.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 02, 2008, 09:07:30 pm

Here's the in-depth explanation of what constitutes a region game.

http://www.d3hoops.com/faq.php?question=44


Mass and NJ are in the same administrative region, so it was a regional game.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on March 03, 2008, 01:12:35 pm
Looks like Lasell is the only team to represent the GNAC this year in the  NCAA's. They have a tough draw with Brandeis. Any thoughts on the situation?
Does Emerson get the to ECAC bid?..and if so, how can we find out who they're playing.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 03, 2008, 01:38:03 pm

It looks like Emerson was the last team out from New England.  They really had a better shot than I thought.

They'll post later today once everything is settled:

http://www.ecacsports.com/championships/current_basketball_champ./selection_monday


I expect Emerson to be the top seed in New England.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on March 03, 2008, 02:24:44 pm
Tough break for them. Seems like that Coast Guard win may have cost them.

They'll probably be one of the few teams in the country with such a good record who didnt make it (not counting teams like Green Mountain who really play nobody).
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on March 03, 2008, 09:25:42 pm
That's pretty much what happened...we were the last out in NE - the fact that  UMD, Brandeis, WPI, AND Amherst all losing their conference tournament sealed our fate as an at-large.

We get to keep playing as the #1 seed in the ECAC - a long way from barely getting in to the tourney as the GNAC champion in 1998.

Can't wait for Wednesday - there another game to get geeked up for and I'm happy there's more to go in what has been a great year for a great team - not just in accomplishments, but as people...we really have a great group and it would be nice moment to see former Emerson AD Keeling handing the championship trophy to Coach Smith. We started the season honoring Keeling for his many contributions to Emerson athletics at our first home game - maybe there's some role reversal in the cards for Sunday. It should be fun.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on March 03, 2008, 10:27:31 pm
Best of luck to Emerson in the ECAC's. Hopefully they can finish off what has been a terrific season for them.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on March 03, 2008, 10:28:38 pm
Oh by the way, I don't think Lasell is any match for Brandeis
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: kmk72289 on March 03, 2008, 11:08:25 pm
Yeah, Lasell got a tough draw with Brandeis.  I think they're a team that CAN make some waves w/ their big 3, but I don't seem them beating Deis.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: newenglandball on March 04, 2008, 09:19:57 am
JWU is a 6 seed and will travel to play #3 Newbury.

any thoughts?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on March 04, 2008, 01:03:03 pm
Newbury needed a 75 foot buzzer beater to beat DWeb earlier this season (which was on ESPN by the way). And I'm pretty sure Newbury is an independent team, who don't play any difficult teams. I say JWU wins, but as far as i'm concerned, it's not an upset.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: newenglandball on March 04, 2008, 10:02:30 pm
yah newbury did barely beat dwebs.. but newbury did beat curry college who won the TCCC this year.  That is a pretty good quality win.

it should be a good game.. though JWU strength of schedule could be to their advantage compared to newbury
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: crazyecbballfan823 on March 05, 2008, 11:06:30 am
Any thoughts about Emmanuel being the #2 seed in the ECAC tourney?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: ILive4This on March 05, 2008, 11:29:27 am
One thing is for certain about the Brandeis/Lasell first round match up - the gym will be packed. Brandeis averages around 750 people per game at home, but that includes pre winter break games with 250-300 fans, as of late its more around 1000+ with 1700 against Amherst. Now partner that with the fact that Lasell is only 2 miles away and you might have the largest crowd in Brandeis history.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on March 05, 2008, 02:09:52 pm
What teams are leaving the GNAC after this year?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: newenglandball on March 05, 2008, 02:16:50 pm
just daniel webster is going to the NECC
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: newenglandball on March 05, 2008, 11:15:58 pm
newbury wins the battle of culinary schools in the ECAC's as they beat jwu 64-60.  both teams had 10 point leads in this game.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: kmk72289 on March 06, 2008, 12:59:14 am
Emerson was upset in the first round of the ECACs despite holding a double digit lead w/ 10 min. left.  UNE couldn't stop Emerson's offense, but Emerson's D proved to be the deciding factor in this game yet again because they couldn't stop the UNE offensive effort, in particular, Johnnie Jefferson, who put in like 40 pts.  tough way to end the year.  On a plus, Will Dawkins put in around 35 pts. and capped off his college career well.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on March 06, 2008, 12:16:08 pm
All three GNAC teams go down in the ECAC's--must not have come to play.

Would like to congratulate Emerson College on having a great season, and quite  possibly putting them on the map for  years to come--especially having Shannon and Rouse returning.

Congrats to Will Dawkins who  seems like he's been there forever.

Next year should be interesting again as Emmanuel returns everyone, Lasell has their big guy back, and rumor has it Albertus Magnus has some major recruits coming in.

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on March 06, 2008, 04:34:47 pm
St. Joe's brings everyone back as well.....and I fully expect them to bring in at least 2 or 3 more freshmen who will claim a roster spot, Im guessing at least 1 of them will be a PG ready to play meaningful minutes right away...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: theBroadcaster on March 07, 2008, 11:33:12 am
For Lasell fans - you can catch tonight's NCAA tournament game against Brandeis live on WBRS 100.1FM Waltham.  You can also tune in live online at www.wbrs.org, with pregame coverage starting at 7:45.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: kmk72289 on March 07, 2008, 01:36:44 pm
thanks for the link...im expecting a good game.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 34whistle on March 08, 2008, 10:14:08 am
First off congratulations to Lasell for a great season. Tough loss last night.  Lasell was missing something.  There wasn’t any passion  or intensity from the team. I think they miss judge how good Brandies was, they were not prepared and it showed and that is the coaches fault.   Lasell will struggle next year with the loss of Jaime Crawford and Dwayne Powell.  Lasell is really going to have to recruit to stay a top the GNAC.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: uconn05 on March 08, 2008, 10:21:15 am
How do you misjudge won of the top teams in the country?  If a player can't get up for an NCAA tournament game they should look in the mirror, not at their coach.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: UnsungHero11 on March 08, 2008, 10:23:22 am
i said it once and i'll say it again, with lasell's talent and everything, they were not half the team they could have been this year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 34whistle on March 08, 2008, 11:53:25 am
i said it once and i'll say it again, with lasell's talent and everything, they were not half the team they could have been this year.
I agree, and I think some of the fault has to go to the coach. Lasell had the makings of a excellent year, at least on paper.  They only had crawford out for three games total. There is no reason why this team should not have gone further in the NCAA tourney. They were not prepared.  They took things too lightly adn that is a reflection of the coach.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on March 08, 2008, 01:41:20 pm
I do not agree. The first half of the game Lasell played extremely well and hung in with Brandeis. That fact is that Brandeis is a more talented, deep and better overall team. Brandeis played 10 guys, all of whom would start on Lasell and their depth wore Lasell down in the second half. Lasell hung in, but seemed to lack depth in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: eclinchy on March 08, 2008, 02:54:02 pm
Lasell is the Knicks of D3.  Lots of talent, but they can't win with it because there's no teamwork.  Everyone thinks shoot-first, no one has good court vision, no one moves well without the ball, no one passes well.  It doesn't translate to good wins against good teams.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: kmk72289 on March 08, 2008, 04:45:33 pm
to be fair, i think the nature of a lot of d3 teams revolves around shooters just because many teams don't have the dominating big man down low. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: jamiejohn on March 08, 2008, 07:09:33 pm
jamie crawford lead the country in 3pt % and the other kid shoots the ball real well and there big man is 6'8 and athletic dont know what your trying to say kmk
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: kmk72289 on March 08, 2008, 07:20:02 pm
eclinhcy was saying lasell isn't successful because they think shoot first and i'm saying that's was a lot of d3 schools do is focus on shooting because most of the talented big men either go d2 or d1.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: kmk72289 on March 08, 2008, 07:22:47 pm
especially the gnac too, which is a relatively small league.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on March 08, 2008, 10:21:23 pm
While I agree that Lasell could have easily had a better record than they did...with the talent level maybe a couple less losses...but they won the league in their first year in the league and they played a Brandeis team that is top 10 in the country and is a far better and deep team than lasell.

Lasell plays 7 guys deep...that will not beat brandeis
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: theGame08 on March 28, 2008, 08:01:25 pm
hey any early word on recruiting class from teams in the confernce. (names please) and any early picks for an preseason all conference teams.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: ac08 on March 28, 2008, 10:38:50 pm
I was at the Amherst-Lasell game earlier this year and I must say that I thought they had the talent to be major contenders in the Northeast. I definitely think the barrier impeding them from hitting that level is mostly mental. There coach is a clever guy, I am sure he will have his team prepared to great things next year... sometimes all you need is a one big win in order to change things around.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: theGame08 on May 06, 2008, 03:57:21 pm
What do the recruiting classes look like for the schools around the leauge.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on June 26, 2008, 08:40:21 pm
Looks like Emerson is bringing in some talent.

Emerson Finds a Steal

Kyle Kesses, a 6’5” small forward who did a post-graduate year at Choate Rosemary Hall will head to Emerson next season.  Kesses is a tremendous athlete and big time three-point shooter who should have a chance to crack the Lions starting five next year.  He set two records at Choate for the most three-pointers in a single game (9) and the most points in a half (32).  Both came in a game against Suffield Academy in January.  Kesses spurned interest from the division II level in favor of Emerson in large part because of their academic reputation and the strength of their communications program.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: theGame08 on July 05, 2008, 08:44:56 am
Keeses should be a very nice add to an already strong Emerson team. Is there any update to other teams recruiting class, in particular Saint Joe's, Lassell, Emannuel, or Mount Ida.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: kmk72289 on July 07, 2008, 11:03:30 pm
wow, i don't know much about kesses, but if he is as good as that blurb says, alongside shannon and rause, emerson's going to be hard to beat.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: kmk72289 on August 12, 2008, 09:47:09 pm
some games have been posted on the GNAC website.  there's a number of interesting non-conference games.

http://www.thegnac.com/sports/schedule-nf.php?sport=4&type=1&sn=Men's%20Basketball&y=0809
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: theGame08 on September 05, 2008, 10:23:31 pm
the season is rapidly approaching about a month and a half away till preseason anyone with thoughts about how this season is going to play out?
 
 
 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Worse than Alex Tse on November 13, 2008, 06:53:51 pm
So what's the news?

I keep checking this because I don't live in the area anymore and I can't seem to get any word on anybody on this league? Who's gonna be good and who's not? Will Norwich ban the cadets from bringing rifles into the gym (cause it's kinda weird/scary and pretty unnecessary)? Can Suffolk stop being so lame and get better lighting for their gym? It literally looks like bar lighting in there. Will anyone ever dunk regularly in the GNAC? How many Crane tattoos will be in the GNAC this year? Who's taking the over is a "Number of times Dave Morrisette gets beat up by his player, therefore forcing that kid to miss some games" line at 2? I need to know these things....and I count on message boards to reveal them. Nobody has too much to do at work that they can't give me a little something here. So come on, and do it. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: jamiejohn on November 19, 2008, 09:47:33 am
Couple of big wins for the gnac, lasell beating brandies and Albertus beating Trinity. Any info on these games
Title: Emerson 100, Wheaton 97 (2OT)
Post by: Dance Major on November 21, 2008, 04:39:33 pm
Really exciting game at Wheaton last night with Emerson pulling it out 100-97 in double overtime.  The Emerson team seemed like they were adjusting to having a lot of new personnel, but their studs from last season certainly came to play.  Junior Bryan Rouse had 28 points and classmate Jeremy Shannon posted the ridiculous stat line of 25 points, 11 assists, and 9 rebounds, including a game-tying three-pointer at the end of regulation to send it to overtime.  I bet the Wheaton radio announcers feel a bit responsible after declaring the game "over" with 7 seconds left and the Lyons up 3. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: KorsairKILLAH on November 22, 2008, 11:31:39 pm
Couple of big wins for the gnac, lasell beating brandies and Albertus beating Trinity. Any info on these games


Albertus beating trinity.  That has to hurt...  In the last 4 years they are 12-88.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: leelowlang on November 28, 2008, 10:51:26 pm
Lasell looking like the cream in the GNAC again early.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on December 02, 2008, 07:58:28 pm
Lions roll 86-58 over U-Mass Boston....any details?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: ac08 on December 02, 2008, 10:18:50 pm
Amherst beats Lasell 104-77.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: kmk72289 on December 02, 2008, 11:42:45 pm
Lasell looking like the cream in the GNAC again early.

i don't know.  Lasell is a great team and have played a tough schedule, but i think you could make an argument for emerson, emmanuel and st. joe's as well.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Word Life on December 04, 2008, 03:55:15 pm
Your conference's boy Shannon was one of the 5 players to be picked to the D3 team of the week...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: leelowlang on December 06, 2008, 07:35:59 am
Emerson, with a player like Shannon, certainly could win it.  St. Joe's I agree with as a good contender.  Not sold on Emmanuel yet.  The inside/out of Guitian and Sainval with Carvoulias as a solid 3rd offensive weapon and good depth makes Lasell the favorite for me.  The New Orleans PG for the Lasers will be the X factor or not.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Hugenerd on December 07, 2008, 12:07:44 am
Emerson got destroyed by Brandeis today.  It looks like Shannon was held in pretty good check as well, commiting 7 turnovers and shooting well below his usual point and FG average (15 points, 5 for 14, 36%).  Was there anyone who was at the game who has any insights?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: kmk72289 on December 07, 2008, 02:09:28 am

yeah, the game actually hung in the balance for some time, i think it was like an 8 pt. game with 12 min. or so left, but Brandeis had much too much size down low.  Hollins from Brandeis put in 27 and had 14 boards and overall, just was a major presence down low.

it looks like Emerson is running into the same problems they did last year with their defense.  Brandeis put in 97 points on sat. and they've given up 80+ points in 5 out of their 6 games thus far.

as far as shannon goes, he had a pretty poor shooting performance in comparison to the last few games.  got some good looks, but a lot just weren't falling for him. 

Suddenly Lassel, after that win against Brandeis earlier in the year, jumps way up on my list of contenders in the GNAC.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: jamiejohn on December 07, 2008, 10:01:46 am
Lasell is the pick to win this league.

Emmauel the pre season pick to win the league lost yesterday to Rivier.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: ILive4This on December 08, 2008, 12:33:36 pm
So the North East Region Posters' Poll is back, if you are interested in participating, which clearly you are, please submit your polls to either my email or my message box here by 9pm mondays (so for this week tonight, sorry for the short notice).

Thanks
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Hugenerd on December 09, 2008, 11:17:02 pm
MIT 65- Emerson 57 tonight (Bartolotta 27 pts, 9 boards, 3 assists, 3 steals, 4 blocks and 1 turnover; Shannon 17 points, 9 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals, 1 block and 7 turnovers).  The score was 37-18 at the half (Bartolotta scored 17, Shannon 6 in the first half) and MIT led by as much as 26 in the second half before Emerson made it a game.  I saw a lot of good things out of Shannon and Bartolotta.  Shannon appears to be playing out of position, he seems like a true point (a very good one) but has to score on the team he is on.  If you want to read my take I wrote a lot about the game on the NEWMAC board. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 86Alum on December 12, 2008, 10:07:13 pm
Does anyone know what happened to Emerson recruit Kyle Kesses?  I understand that he is in school, but he is not on the roster.As a 6'5" shooter and scorer he would give Shannon some much needed help and loosen up the doubles on Rouse.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: kmk72289 on December 14, 2008, 12:18:34 am
was wondering the same thing actually...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Worse than Alex Tse on December 17, 2008, 10:58:48 pm
Does anyone want blogs like this out of the GNAC? (http://clubtrillion.blogspot.com) I sure do. This is what I need fellas. This is what you are NOT giving me.  I want to hear what is going on form those that know. I don't know about Kresses, but if he isn't on the roster, I can be sure he has some sort of attitude malfunction. Hank Smith doesn't mess with kids who have bad attitudes, doesn't matter how tall you are or how well you shoot.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Dance Major on January 19, 2009, 11:30:23 am
Congratulations to Brian Rouse of Emerson for scoring his 1,000 point last week.  The junior big man is averaging 23.3 ppg on 57% from the field, and 53% from 3-point range.  I was able to watch Endicott at Emerson this past weekend, and Rouse was phenomenal -- 28 points on only 13 shots, 10 rebounds, and 5 assists.  His ability to finish at the basket with either hand, his footwork, and his shooting ability make him one of the best low-post scorers I have seen at the D3 level.  Even as undersized as he is for his position at 6'4", he is nearly impossible to stop 1 on 1 in the post.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: ephoops on January 19, 2009, 03:11:50 pm
Congrats to Rouse.  He gets the most out of his talents...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: coach4407 on January 20, 2009, 05:41:11 pm
Rouse is a good player, everyone is aware of this. Him and Jeremy Shannon make the Emerson team. But when Emerson plays teams with good post players they seem to struggle. Even though Rouse is skilled sometimes he is too short for his position. Otis from Mount Ida ALWAYS seems to dominate in the games against Emerson. And rookie post player Robert Thurman from Norwich gave Emerson trouble in their loss to Norwich. So maybe Emerson should get a good sized post player with some of Rouse's skills.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on January 20, 2009, 06:20:27 pm
While you may be right Emerson needing bigger guys.

In the 2 games they've matched up this year...Otis Thompson has scored 3 points and 6 points to go with 3 rebounds and 7 rebounds.. While Rouse has put up 22points, 5 rbs, and 26 ponts with 11 rebounds. Wouldnt quite call that dominating by Thompson to say the least. Actually looks like Rouse dominated Thompson.


May want to check your facts before you make these so called statements.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 20, 2009, 06:40:32 pm

Emerson's needed bigger guys for as long as I can remember.  They always seem to be slightly undersized to make a run at the top teams in the region.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: coach4407 on January 21, 2009, 08:37:16 am
Points aren't everything in a match-up. 5 rebounds is a horrible amount of boards for a big man. The true big men in the GNAC create problems for the Emerson team in general, they only beat Mount Ida  by 2 and 3 with both match ups and they lost to Norwich, which to be honest NO ONE saw coming. And we have yet to see them play against Lasell this year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on January 21, 2009, 12:07:36 pm
And 3 rebounds by Thompson?? Rouse out rebounded Thompson in both games.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: BornBalla on January 21, 2009, 03:02:33 pm
Rouse is perfect for Emerson & their system. I think the Emerson coach prefers undersized, tough forwards. Anytime I'v seen them play over the years, this is how they looked. Having bigs doesn't guarantee success in NE or nationally. Virginia Weslyan won titles and went to another with a VERY undersized team. They had Brandon Adair(who was 6-5 at best) the year they won it & another 6-4ish kid off bench. They played hardnosed def & spread the floor offensively. I remember Anna Maria squads in mid 90's with their 6-4 post guy who scored over 2,000pts & a bunch of guards. It's really about the having talent & using it the right way. At D3 size is overrated. The guys above 6-5/6-6 at this level are usually stiffs. I'd take a kid like Rouse anyday.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: coach4407 on January 21, 2009, 08:13:14 pm
yes most are stiffs, but when you do find a tall player who is a quality player that team will dominate because size is so rare in D3. Like Jose Guitan. As I said before I believe the young man from Norwich, the 6'11 kid will show to be dominate in the GNAC for his career here. What do you think?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Hugenerd on January 21, 2009, 11:31:18 pm
Rouse is perfect for Emerson & their system. I think the Emerson coach prefers undersized, tough forwards. Anytime I'v seen them play over the years, this is how they looked. Having bigs doesn't guarantee success in NE or nationally. Virginia Weslyan won titles and went to another with a VERY undersized team. They had Brandon Adair(who was 6-5 at best) the year they won it & another 6-4ish kid off bench. They played hardnosed def & spread the floor offensively. I remember Anna Maria squads in mid 90's with their 6-4 post guy who scored over 2,000pts & a bunch of guards. It's really about the having talent & using it the right way. At D3 size is overrated. The guys above 6-5/6-6 at this level are usually stiffs. I'd take a kid like Rouse anyday.

In the northeast it seems that way, but its a different story in other regions (especially in the west/midwest).  There are a bunch of examples of tall players that are not 'stiffs' in d3.  I could go through some of them, but all 5 centers on the preseason all american list are at least 6'7" and there are many more.  I think the northeast, more than most regions, tends to be guard oriented and smaller conferences, such as the GNAC, are especially so.  Therefore, shorter big men can put up big numbers and dominate.  If you go to conferences like the WIAC and CCIW, and even the UAA, almost every team has a big man that can play.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: nescac1 on January 22, 2009, 11:27:55 am
Yes, if you look at the teams that actually succeed on a national scale from New England, they almost always have big guys who can really play.  The recent strong Amherst teams, in addition to a great point guard of course, had a 6'8 kid in the class of 03, 6'7 Schiel in the class of 05, 6'6 Casnocha in 06, and then four guys, all at least 6'7 (one 6'10) who were all serious athletes / could run the floor, dunk, shoot, etc., in last year's graduating class.  Amherst doesn't have a dominating inside presence this year and it's hurt them against the better teams.  The Williams team that nearly won back-to-back titles had Coffin, a 6'8 guy who was by his junior year easily a D-I caliber talent (just ask the Holy Cross bigs who he dominated) and was the key to their tourney success.  It's telling that no other new england squad has made the final four since 200.  And Rochester, which generally has been loaded with huge, strong guys inside, has been the biggest roadblock for the New England powers in doing so. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: ephoops on January 23, 2009, 01:15:12 pm
Yes, if you look at the teams that actually succeed on a national scale from New England, they almost always have big guys who can really play.  The recent strong Amherst teams, in addition to a great point guard of course, had a 6'8 kid in the class of 03, 6'7 Schiel in the class of 05, 6'6 Casnocha in 06, and then four guys, all at least 6'7 (one 6'10) who were all serious athletes / could run the floor, dunk, shoot, etc., in last year's graduating class.  Amherst doesn't have a dominating inside presence this year and it's hurt them against the better teams.  The Williams team that nearly won back-to-back titles had Coffin, a 6'8 guy who was by his junior year easily a D-I caliber talent (just ask the Holy Cross bigs who he dominated) and was the key to their tourney success.  It's telling that no other new england squad has made the final four since 200.  And Rochester, which generally has been loaded with huge, strong guys inside, has been the biggest roadblock for the New England powers in doing so. 

Also, the one drawback of the two Williams teams that Nogelo led to two final fours in the 90's was that these teams did not have a dominant big man.  This was acutely the case when Williams played UW-Platteville in the semi finals.  Williams started off hot and had a double-digat lead in the first half.  Then there was a stretch for several minutes where Williams just could not get a rebound.  Plateville had a hot shooting guard that game but if you ask Sheehy, Williams lack a true center who could rebound with the big kids from the Midwest is what prevented Williams from winning two national championships with Nogelo.

Coffin and DeMuth allowed Williams to compete inside with the midwest bigmen...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: ScouteamCEO on January 28, 2009, 09:38:46 pm
 Anyone have a line on this tall kid from Norwich. I saw him at Duke just before winter break...if he's 6'10" I'm Barney's love child. He's GOT to be 7"1" at least....

yes most are stiffs, but when you do find a tall player who is a quality player that team will dominate because size is so rare in D3. Like Jose Guitan. As I said before I believe the young man from Norwich, the 6'11 kid will show to be dominate in the GNAC for his career here. What do you think?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on January 30, 2009, 10:45:51 am
Riv clips Lasell. Emmanuel thrashes Emerson. Seems like the league is up for grabs this year!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 34whistle on January 30, 2009, 11:00:39 am
Lets be honest Lasell had an off day, they are still the team to beat, and looking at the remainder of their schedule there is no one tht can touch them.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on January 31, 2009, 08:09:04 pm
Lets be honest Lasell had an off day, they are still the team to beat, and looking at the remainder of their schedule there is no one tht can touch them.

Ooops....no one that can touch them?  I think you jinxed them.  Suffolk put up 112 points (in a non-overtime game) and beat them today.  Trouble in Laser-Land??

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: crazyecbballfan823 on February 01, 2009, 07:50:32 am
Yeah, I would say Lasell is not untouchable... if Suffolk can beat them then any team in this conference should be able to beat them
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 34whistle on February 01, 2009, 10:41:34 am
Yes they looked a little tired yesturday, and they stumbled a bit, but when it comes right down to it there is no one in the league who can consistanly match them. They will be just fine come playoff time, and will repeat.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: kmk72289 on February 01, 2009, 11:30:10 pm
While I agree that Lasell is still the team to beat in the GNAC, if a 2-14 team can put up 112 points on them, the idea that they have the conference on lock is ridiculous.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: CCCalum2 on February 18, 2009, 09:19:06 am
Lasell 79  Emerson 68
LC clinches home court throughout the playoffs. 
No other news, just wanted to see if any of the GNAC fans were still alive!  No posts for almost 3 weeks.  It's playoff time, wake up!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 34whistle on February 18, 2009, 11:42:19 am
Yes they looked a little tired yesturday, and they stumbled a bit, but when it comes right down to it there is no one in the league who can consistanly match them. They will be just fine come playoff time, and will repeat.
I will stand by what I said! Lasell will cruise through the GNAC's And will repeat!!!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: creekhoops on February 19, 2009, 07:00:30 pm
Top 4 GNAC Champs of this Century in order..

1. 2002-03 Southern Vermont Mountaineers (Chicago imports in Bennington...)
2. 2003-04 Johnson & Wales Wildcats (Russell, Tamargo, and the Glory Days at Wales)
3. 2001-02 Suffolk Rams (Luisi and the Flex run to a T)
4. 2000-01 WNEC Golden Bears (Physical, defensive-oriented, gritty)

This edition of Lasell may make a run through the GNACs, but they could not play with any of these teams.

Stamp it.
Title: Re: GNAC all-rookies
Post by: bmull on February 22, 2009, 04:24:43 pm
I'd say Isaiah Duke and Spanbauer from Emmanuel for all-rookie team, O'Brien from St Joes too - who else?
Title: GNAC all-rookie
Post by: bmull on February 22, 2009, 05:59:16 pm
I'm thinking Isaiah Duke and Eric Spanbauer from Emmanuel and Zach O'Brien from St. Joes for all - GNAC rookie - who else?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: CCCalum2 on February 25, 2009, 08:48:42 am
Lasell, St. Joe's, Emmanuel and Albertus Magnus move on in the GNAC's.

Emmanuel @ Lasell
Albertus @ St. Joe's
Thursday Night.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on February 25, 2009, 09:21:53 pm
creek....how do you not list Norwich? They were the best champs of the decade...won back-to-back with the same group....it's not even close. Far more legit that #'s 1 and 2 on your list.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on February 26, 2009, 02:20:20 am
Any word on Emerson losing to Albertus Magnus by 28. That seems unusal?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: creekhoops on February 26, 2009, 04:54:14 am
pipes...

I thought about that, and I suppose your argument is valid.  However, the GNAC was down in those two years, with the top two having cleaned house in many ways.  I do  not think those NU teams get it done against those top two overall.  But I'd be willing to slide them in and bump WNEC out, maybe reshuffle the group then...it's all arbitrary anyway...just food for thought.  But for one season only, give me either of the top two on my list and you can take the field (anyone left).
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: deiscanton on February 26, 2009, 09:54:25 pm
GNAC Championship is set, as Emmanuel defeats Lasell 94-91 in double overtime.  Emmanuel will travel to Maine for Saturday's GNAC Championship game against St. Joseph's (Maine).

Congrats to Emmanuel on pulling off the upset and knocking out the Lasell Lasers before a packed house in Newton, MA tonight.

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: bmull on February 26, 2009, 10:19:14 pm
Did St Joe - Emmanuel split during the season?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: deiscanton on February 26, 2009, 10:28:08 pm
St. Joe's swept Emmanuel in the regular season, with the Monks prevailing over the Saints by a score of 73-65 in Standish, Maine on January 19, and the Monks also winning 82-75 at the Jean Yawkey Center in Boston on February 17.

Based on these results, St. Joe's will come in to Saturday's title game as a slight favorite to capture the GNAC Men's Basketball Championship, but the title game should be a close one.

As for Lasell, their NCAA hopes are over as the Lasers will not be receiving a Pool C bid, but the Lasers should get an ECAC New England postseason bid to continue their season as Lasell did declare for the ECAC New England Men's Basketball Tournament.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D-3Geinus on February 27, 2009, 06:43:21 am
albertus had a good oppurtunity of stealing that game against st joes. it was a four point game with four to play. albertus missed some key three pointers that might have made the difference. St joes played well down the stretch to hold on. Kinda seen lasell getting upset, becuase it seemed as if they were waiting for the gnac tourney to turn it up. they werent playing the best basketball headed in.

to answer someones question about emerson vs albertus. Albertus had just too much size on emerson, and matched up well against the lions. Shannon was frustrated as he cudnt do anything all game. Albertus came prepared, played excellent D, and shot the ball great. It really wasnt close again at the ten minute mark of the first half. Not bad for a second yr coach,mitch oliver(albertus), and a team picked second to last in the preseason poll. Albertus brought in the best freshman class, and besides cordova and leonzo there not losing anyone. Combine that with Oliver being a great recruiter, and albertus could be dangerous next year.

Look for st joes and emmanuel to go down to the wire. bith are playing great basketball as of right now. Cant wait to watch this one. How many teams get into the ECAC from the gnac?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on February 28, 2009, 12:32:16 pm
Is there a place to see what teams applied to be in the ECAC's this year?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: deiscanton on February 28, 2009, 04:21:47 pm
The list of declared teams for the ECAC New England DIII Men's Tournament can be found at:

http://www.ecac.org/championships/team/mbkb/2008-09/DIII_-_Men-s.pdf

The GNAC teams on the declared list are:  St. Joe's Maine, Lasell, Johnson and Wales, Rivier, and Albertus Magnus.

St. Joe's Maine just got the GNAC automatic Pool A bid to the NCAAs with a 74-72 overtime win over Emmanuel today, so the Monks will be automatically withdrawn from ECAC consideration.  Congrats to the Monks on winning the GNAC Men's Basketball Championship.

Emmanuel officially has ended its season with the loss today.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on March 02, 2009, 03:00:44 pm

Creek, I just can't accept these as the top 2 teams. SVC had a team of one-and-done players that fueled their run and J & W was powered by Rohan Russell who was convicted of rape about a month after the tournament -  http://www.d3hoops.com/notables?month=4&year=2004 

One of the great things about D-3 is that you get to watch players and teams grow. Down or not, I thought Norwich was very good and so was WNEC - that team also won in 1999-2000. In '01 they beat Emerson in OT in one of the greatest games in conference history (Aaron Young of Emerson hit a 25 footer at the buzzer to force OT) and don't forget that Emerson team went to the ECAC finals after beating Colby and Wesleyan and lost at Williams by 20 (as close as a dozen in the 2nd half) to the same group that would win the NCAA tourney the next year and lose at the buzzer in the title game the year after.

I still think Emerson would have won that '01 title game vs. WNEC had Dave Miller not gotten hurt in the 1st half - and for those who remember D-Mills that was before any of his knee injuries and he was lightning fast and a great on-the ball defender. That teams also starred Rob Murphy, Rich Glesmann, and freshman Rob Hennigan who went on to score 2,200 points.

Since the conference has only been around since 1995-96, only Emerson (1996-97, 97-98), WNEC (1999-01) and Norwich (2004-06) have repeated as champs so if we're talking about greatest teams in conference I think we have to start the conversation there.....I've been around since the beginning, so that's my two cents.

Thoughts anyone?

Top 4 GNAC Champs of this Century in order..

1. 2002-03 Southern Vermont Mountaineers (Chicago imports in Bennington...)
2. 2003-04 Johnson & Wales Wildcats (Russell, Tamargo, and the Glory Days at Wales)
3. 2001-02 Suffolk Rams (Luisi and the Flex run to a T)
4. 2000-01 WNEC Golden Bears (Physical, defensive-oriented, gritty)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: larry_u on March 02, 2009, 04:41:04 pm
Can someone post your NCAA team's profiles in here:

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=6299.0
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: creekhoops on March 03, 2009, 06:38:50 am
Actually, SVC had a good run for two seasons.  The year they won it and then went on to beat Lasell in round 1 of the NCAA tournament, and then the very next year when they pushed JWU to the wire, bowing out in the GNACS.  That JWU team, mind you, had been to the GNAC finals twice in three years before winning it in 04.  (Pipes, Russell's legal issues had nothing to do with the team's place in GNAC history, so there really is no need to factor that in).  If you read the story you linked to your post, the alleged incient took place while attending a different school.  Again, you can have your favorites just like anyone else - that's why it is thrown out there for discussion and debate.  But as impressive as those two teams were when they peaked, it would be tough to keep them out of the conversation.  To your credit, however, neither team can be listed as part of a strong program or tradition, as both have never come close to those performances in the last five years.  Emerson, however, has one of (if not the most) impressive programs in the conference's history, given the challenges they have faced.  Year in and year out, they will defend, defend, defend. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: LaserFan15 on March 24, 2009, 12:09:02 pm
Lasell's Jose Guitian earned All-American Honorable Mention honors earlier this week. I think this is great for the school and for the conference. When was the last time a player from the GNAC was named to one of the All-American teams?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 24, 2009, 12:15:57 pm
Just glancing through the all-time list:
http://www.d3hoops.com/tow/allamericans-all.htm

I would guess Rob Hennigan in 2004.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 24, 2009, 09:16:10 pm
Just glancing through the all-time list:
http://www.d3hoops.com/tow/allamericans-all.htm

I would guess Rob Hennigan in 2004.

That dude could play.  Flat out.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: BornBalla on March 25, 2009, 10:49:02 am
Guitian was a player that should have played at higher level. Don't know his story but saw him play and he was tough. Shoots the ball well at 6-10. I googled him and found out that he was drafted in the professional league in Puerto Rico in their rookie draft. Congrats to him if he decides to play there. I have to imagine that he will also look to Europe, Asia, and South America who all have leagues. If all those Amherst players can play in Europe(There were 5 from the class of 08 in Europe), I would bet Guitian could as well.
Title: Re: GNAC '09-'10
Post by: bmull on May 08, 2009, 08:47:04 pm
Friends and fans:   Any news on who's coming to the GNAC schools next year - come on, I need some hoop scoop.   Thank you.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on May 12, 2009, 02:29:09 pm
I would love to know of any recruits who are coming also. The GNAC had some surprises this year in the playoffs and had a good showing in the ECAC. Does anyone have a earlier preview for next fall?
Title: Re: GNAC 09-10
Post by: bmull on May 12, 2009, 09:30:42 pm
OK - that's two cries for incoming frosh info - somebody help us out here.
SIDs - come on. Thanks.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: broke_ya_ankles on May 13, 2009, 09:46:14 am
I don't have a lot for you but Albertus Magnus has received a commitment from who will quite possibly step in and become THE BEST player in the GNAC the day he plays his first game there.  Jefferson Lora, a 6'7" PF out of Lyman Hall HS decommitted from Central Connecticut State University (Division I Scholarship) and selected Albertus Magnus.  Lora, a top 20 player in CT (#19 as of the last rankings) is a stud, not too many GNAC teams have D1 caliber players on their rosters....

The only other commitment I have seen is Curtis Robinson, the #13 ranked senior in Vermont out of Proctor High School is headed to Rivier College...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Hugenerd on May 13, 2009, 11:10:35 am
I don't have a lot for you but Albertus Magnus has received a commitment from who will quite possibly step in and become THE BEST player in the GNAC the day he plays his first game there.  Jefferson Lora, a 6'7" PF out of Lyman Hall HS decommitted from Central Connecticut State University (Division I Scholarship) and selected Albertus Magnus.  Lora, a top 20 player in CT (#19 as of the last rankings) is a stud, not too many GNAC teams have D1 caliber players on their rosters....

The only other commitment I have seen is Curtis Robinson, the #13 ranked senior in Vermont out of Proctor High School is headed to Rivier College...

Here is the article that broke is talking about:
http://www.newenglandrecruitingreport.com/news/article/803/Lora-Changes-Mind-Albertus-Magnus-Gets-Huge-Steal.php

Title: Re: GNAC 09-10
Post by: bmull on May 13, 2009, 10:12:16 pm
Many thanks - anybody else?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: beaner11 on June 17, 2009, 10:58:58 am
From What we do know, what are you preseason picks for league standing? Obviously Emerson and Albertus have to be on top but where do you see the league falling after that.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: beaner11 on July 02, 2009, 02:22:50 pm
Long time until Oct 15 but an early look at the GNAC.

Teams to beat:

Emerson...Going into their senior year, guard Jeremy Shannon and Bryan Rouse are dictating that the road to a GNAC championship must go through them. With both of the top returning scorers in the league and the lead assist man and a strong third option in Messenger, the Lions should be a force this up coming season. The only quetion is if the supporting cast can give enough support?

Albertus Magnus: Lost a couple of games the probably should have won last year, but most likely that won't be the case this year. With Jefferson Lora coming in to bolster a team of combo guard Walden St Juste, young high post and reigning ROY Ray Askew, and the potential emergence of post Andre Beckford. Albertus will be a threat and possibly the favorite for the GNAC crown. Did they gain enough experience on the perimeter though?

Staint Joseph's : The Monks, defending champs, return probably the most versitle player in the league in Ray Eatmon. The 6'5 W/P can do just about anything they ask of him. Also coming back is the athletic guard like Post Chris Davis and the wing shooting tandem of Petzy and O'brien. The question for them is how much does losing Elbie Murphy hurt them?

Team to watch:

Johnson & Wales : Johnson and Wales brought to the table a freshman heavy team. Their result, a sixth place finish in conference play. Not bad for a team relying so heavly on freshman. They should be able to build upon their success last year and be a strong team in the conference. Their question lay in the fact that they lost their two inside presences in Chrenshaw and Nicholson?

Emmanuel: Despite losing their top players in Rob Williams-Hinton and Mack Spellman, strong year from So Isiah Dukes, SR Mike Jackson, an JR Tyronne Buchannan have the Saints set for another strong bid at the GNAC. Expect strong play from Sophmore big men Andre Fuller and Eric Spanbauer. The question that the Saints have to answer is where will their perimeter shooting come from with the departure of their two star seniors.


Which way will they go?:

Lasell: This is the make it or break it year for the Lasers in their quest to be a perennial contender in the league. After losing Caravoulias, Fallon,  Sanival, and oh not to mention D3 All American honorable mention, POY Jose Giutian, the Lasers look decimate but do not let that fool you they still have plenty of talent in Sophmores Javon Williams and Kevin Richard , Junior Corey Goodfrey, and Senior Charles Horton. Still will the loss of Jose Giutian prove to much?

Rivier : As the Raiders wave goodbye to the likes of Felipe Lima, Lance Bission, and  Kevin Harrington they wave hello to a new set of problems such as replacing those guys. Rivier showed a little bit of promise in junior Nick Bean and sophmore Mark Williams but will they be enough to help them have another succesfull year?

On the rise:

Norwich: The Cadets are one of the few teams that return all five of their five leading scorers and all five of them played major roles on the team. The underclassmen heavy team should improve this year with another year of experience under their belt and Sophomore center 6'11" Robert Thurman anchoring the middle for them, one of three players in the conference to be name to a D3 team of the week. The question with Norwich is that other than Thurman no one else on the team is an upper level talent in the conference. They will be better than eigth this year, but how much better will they be without much talent?

Could be a long one:

Mount Ida - Center Otis Thompson has moved on along with a good amount of the squad from last year. Couple that with a below par season last year and thing aren't to promising for the Mustangs. Still senior guard tandem of Darren Martinez and Dave Santos should form a strong backcourt coupled with Sophmore Jerome Bunch. Still with no front court presence, this might not be Mount Ida year. Dave Santos can put points up and in a hurry but will his scoring be enough to carry the Mustangs.

Suffolk: Brian Small graduates and takes hope along with him. Suffolk has struggle in the recent past and this year does not look to be any better for the. Losing their scorer and rebounder hurts them and they do not quite have the depth to replace him. Allan Ray can score in a hurrry and the sharp shooting sophomore Mike Gibbons is a breath of fresh air for them but they just don't have the power. Suffolk always seems to throw a screw ball into everyones gameplans though upseting Lasell last year. Can they turn the upsets into series of wins?

09-10 Pre-Season Picks:

Champ - Emerson
POY - Jeremey Shannon (EME)
ROY - Jefferson Lora (AMC)
1st Team - Robert Thurman (NU),  Jeremey Shannon, Bryan Rouse (EME), Ray Eatmon (SJM), Lamonte Thomas (JW)



Any Thought........
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: bmull on July 03, 2009, 05:32:21 pm
Very grateful for your homework on the conference - it would be sweet if some SIDs or coaches would pump some transfer/frosh info into the pipeline. Thanks again.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 03, 2009, 07:01:30 pm
Very grateful for your homework on the conference - it would be sweet if some SIDs or coaches would pump some transfer/frosh info into the pipeline. Thanks again.
In our part of the country, coaches and SID's don't like revealing that information until the 8th day of the fall semester, when the final day for withdrawing has passed.  This is to prevent opposing coaches from stealing the prospects.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: TheWord on August 13, 2009, 12:19:08 am
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Norwich: The Cadets are one of the few teams that return all five of their five leading scorers and all five of them played major roles on the team. The underclassmen heavy team should improve this year with another year of experience under their belt and Sophomore center 6'11" Robert Thurman anchoring the middle for them, one of three players in the conference to be name to a D3 team of the week. The question with Norwich is that other than Thurman no one else on the team is an upper level talent in the conference. They will be better than eigth this year, but how much better will they be without much talent?

1st Team - Robert Thurman (NU),  Jeremey Shannon, Bryan Rouse (EME), Ray Eatmon (SJM), Lamonte Thomas (JW)



Any Thought........
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 I've been hearing this kid is TOO good...that he might go D1.....any thoughts?
Title: Norwich's Thurman
Post by: TheWord on August 14, 2009, 12:20:18 am
 According to the rumor mill in the San Francisco Bay Area, Robert may have signed with Stanford or Cal Berkeley...... that would be a MAJOR blow to the Cadets chances of anything better than last year... anyone hear something to this affect through GNAC sources?
Title: Re: Norwich's Thurman
Post by: TheWord on August 17, 2009, 11:52:47 am
 According to the Antelope Valley Pressor Palmdale, CA, in a full page article on him 15 August, Robert Thurman has signed with UC Berkeley and Coach Montgomery. There was no question of his talent in D3, but we'll have to see how far he can get with 7'3" Max Zheng and a host of other 6'8"+ players. He'll more than likely Red SHirt, since he can't play in D1 without sitting out a year by NCAA rules.
 Anyone out there have a reaction from the Cadets or Coach Booth about this?!?

According to the rumor mill in the San Francisco Bay Area, Robert may have signed with Stanford or Cal Berkeley...... that would be a MAJOR blow to the Cadets chances of anything better than last year... anyone hear something to this affect through GNAC sources?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Hugenerd on August 17, 2009, 07:53:25 pm
Here is that article:

http://avc-basketball-fan.spaces.live.com/

They incorrectly state that he received a "scholarship" to play d3 basketball.  Maybe he did get a scholarship, but it definitely wasnt for basketball, could have been academic since they emphasize his academics so much in the article.  Berkeley is a really nice place, good luck to him.

There appears to be similar information on this board:

http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f98/robert-thurman-218211/
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on August 22, 2009, 05:23:33 pm
I was told that 6'5 Cori Boston (Charlestown, MA) who is now entering his senior year will be at Norwich. He previously played at Robert Morris and Merrimack I believe.
Title: Re: GNAC upcoming season
Post by: bmull on September 18, 2009, 08:00:52 am
Friends   Now that players have been back on campus a few weeks, and the frosh are settling in to the college routine, could some SIDs give us the scoop on how things are shaping up for 09-10 - thanks!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: beaner11 on September 21, 2009, 12:19:06 pm
Looks like the rich are getting richer. The word is Kyle Kesses has been particapating in offseason workouts and will be playing this season.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on September 25, 2009, 02:19:05 pm
Beaner---at what school?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on September 30, 2009, 03:43:13 pm
I think he is at Emerson, however, I don't know how that would help Emerson. If I am thinking of the right kid, he is from Connecticut and isn't that good of a player. He is a streaky shooter but can't create his own shot. Remember Emerson lost by over 25 points at home in the playoffs. I think teams in the GNAC will look at that game and really pressure Shannon and not allow him to win games. The secondary players must step up for Emerson to have a good year. If teams pressure Shannon, play physical with Emerson and can force them to play a up and down the court game, I can't see them hosting a game in the playoffs this year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on September 30, 2009, 04:00:59 pm
Beaner, thanks for the pre-season outlook. Wonderful stuff. I just wanted to point out that Albertus will have their best guard coming back this season. Senior guard Young who sat out last year, he is their best point guard, most consistent shooter. You may remember him, he led the team in minutes and was top three scorer for the falcons two years ago. He is also their second best perimeter defender behind Reeves. Albertus has depth, lenght, and talent. Johnson and Wales may be the only team that is as deep as them. It looks like they will play 6 guards and 5 big men regularly. Jefferson Lora if he plays to what is expected may cause a lot of problems for opposining big men in the league.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D-3Geinus on September 30, 2009, 08:28:36 pm
PJNITO- I saw the kid Kesses play in high school at Amity, before he went off to Choate. You hit it dead on. Cant create, and is a streaky shooter. Still though, Shannon is best player in league. Will be interesting to see how shannon does with Reeves, who gave  Shannon fits in the playoff blowout last yr, and now Young guarding him. I do remmeber Young. Very talented PG who fits Oliver's system perfect. Can run the floor, shoot, and play defense. Emerson and Albertus are in for two great games this year. I cant believe im saying this, but Albertus is the most talented team from top to bottom in the GNAC
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: NJBalla35 on October 19, 2009, 02:33:40 pm
Albertus Magnus has their 09-10 roster posted.  Looks like the first GNAC school to do so.  It says 08-09, but the freshmen are all listed at the bottom with their numbers.  Looks like a good class to go along with a strong group of returners.

http://www.albertus.edu/athletics/mens-teams/basketball.html

Any thoughts?  Has anyone seen any other rosters?

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on October 22, 2009, 09:43:29 am
Will Jeremy Shannon be getting looked at for All-American this year?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Hugenerd on November 06, 2009, 08:30:52 pm
Will Jeremy Shannon be getting looked at for All-American this year?

He was named preseason honorable mention all-american today, so I would say the answer to your question is "yes".
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on November 07, 2009, 11:40:57 am
He should be honored...he is the only representative from the Northeast...congrats
Title: Re:MIT - Emmanuel
Post by: bmull on November 13, 2009, 08:59:42 pm
Interesting opener Tuesday night in Boston - NCAA team vs GNAC runner-up.
Anyone??
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on November 22, 2009, 09:40:14 pm
I saw Suffolk at New England Col today.  They looked pretty good, the big kid freshman is a beast.  They made a ton of 3's (and apparently made even more the night before).  They are 3-0 - a pretty good start after only winning 3 games all year last year.
Title: Re: Emmanuel - Wheelock
Post by: bmull on November 23, 2009, 09:56:57 pm
Friends   What should I expect?   Bmull
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: NJBalla35 on November 24, 2009, 05:42:57 pm
Emmanuel by 10. 
Title: Re: Wheelock at Emmanuel
Post by: asu50 on November 25, 2009, 07:28:19 pm
I think people need to start giving some credit to Wheelock...So far, they are 4-0 and beat quality teams (WIT, Springfield, UNE, and Emmanuel) and they are off to a pretty good start.. I think Elms will have a competition this year at NECC...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 26, 2009, 09:27:18 am

Wheelock does seem to be for real.  Good job recruiting.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: BornBalla on November 26, 2009, 10:50:01 am
Wheelock played decent in their league at the end of last year if you look at schedule and I think the game vs Elms in playoffs last year(I think semi finals) was a good game in first half. Judging from box scores Wheelock seems to be doing with returners and none of the new players. They actually have a good shot to start 10-1 with the looks of their schedule. I think it will be tough to beat Gordon at home but every other team is very doable for them. That would be something. Then they would have Becker(who won ECAC last year) and Elms soon after. This year in NE will be very interesting with the early success of Wheelock and Thomas beating some teams from big conferences(all be it the weaker ones but inpressive none the less).

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: asu50 on November 27, 2009, 03:28:14 pm
Yes I agree, Wheelock has a chance to go 11-0 or 10-1 before the conference play (Gordon is a tough opponent for everyone, that game will be worth of watch). They beat UNE and Emmanuel without their starting PG, so that is impressive! As BornBalla mentioned, NECC will be interesting to follow this year.

How about Salem State? It seems like they are not off to a good start!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Hugenerd on November 28, 2009, 06:04:33 pm
Anyone know why Jeremy Shannon didnt play against Babson?  He played 35 minutes in a loss to Brandeis 3 nights before the Babson game.  Anyone know if he was injured at the end of the Brandeis game, or something else?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on December 04, 2009, 09:08:42 am
Is Emmanual having a down year or just a rough start. Looks like they have been getting beat up a little.

Any news on Shannon?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: T990 on December 04, 2009, 12:58:34 pm
Jeremy Shannon did not play vs MIT this week.  He was there in sweats; sorry, I don't know if he's injured or why he's not playing.  It's a big break for Emerson opponents as long as he's out as Piano Row Gymnasium is tough place to play when he's leading their swarming "Tarkanian" defense and offense
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Hugenerd on December 04, 2009, 01:40:43 pm
Jeremy Shannon did not play vs MIT this week.  He was there in sweats; sorry, I don't know if he's injured or why he's not playing.  It's a big break for Emerson opponents as long as he's out as Piano Row Gymnasium is tough place to play when he's leading their swarming "Tarkanian" defense and offense

He did do some warm-up type stuff, though, so it appears as though he may be close to coming back.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on December 04, 2009, 03:33:27 pm
Jeremy Shannon did not play vs MIT this week.  He was there in sweats; sorry, I don't know if he's injured or why he's not playing.  It's a big break for Emerson opponents as long as he's out as Piano Row Gymnasium is tough place to play when he's leading their swarming "Tarkanian" defense and offense

He did do some warm-up type stuff, though, so it appears as though he may be close to coming back.


Boy, I hope so. No conference wants the pre-season player of the year and all american mention player injured or missing a lot of games. He changes that team, they are still a good GNAC team, but not great.

GNAC conference play is about to get real good. One coach told me early games don't alway tell you the whole story. Who is playing well and together in late January, that is the dangerous team. Still, I would think you don't want to lose too many early games trying to find out what you have as a team?

Any news on mid year transfers?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on December 06, 2009, 06:39:59 pm
Has anyone seen Albertus?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on December 07, 2009, 01:33:16 pm
I have seen them. I saw their lost to Western Ct State and their win against Lasell. They are deep, the coach goes with the hot hands late in game. The only two constants are Ray Askew and Bryon Reeves. They will give a lot of teams trouble because of their depth. The freshmen Lora is learning, he should get better by the end of the year. But, he is a beast. They have another freshmen Armstrong who jumps out of the gym and blocked 5 shots in those two games. They are also missing Beckford, power forward, who should return in January. Albertus, should have best front line in GNAC when he returns.

Askew was rookie of year in conference last year. He will be first team conference this year and might get mention for player of year, if Albertus wins enough. The scariest part of this team is that they have one senior (he comes off the bench) and one junior. This team was picked to win the conference playing with all these young guys.

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: beaner11 on December 07, 2009, 03:50:40 pm
is it Byron Reeves or Walden St Juste for Albertus.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on December 07, 2009, 04:37:07 pm
Clealry it seems as if Albertus is the favorite...what is the rankings after AMC? Surprisingly it seems Emmanuel and Lasell may be a little down this year, Emerson is tough to tell until Shannon is back, and Norwich is 5-1.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on December 08, 2009, 01:58:11 pm
is it Byron Reeves or Walden St Juste for Albertus.

Young is the senior and St. juste is the junior.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on December 08, 2009, 02:00:33 pm
Pre-season rankings from thegnac website:

2009 Men's Basketball Preseason Poll
 Total
 
Rank
 Team   
   
 
1. Albertus Magnus    64 points
 
2. Emerson   63
 
3. Saint Joseph's (Maine)   62
 
4. Emmanuel 57
 
5. Johnson and Wales 38
 
6. Rivier 34
 
7. Norwich 30
 
8. Lasell 27
 
9. Mount Ida 18
 
10. Suffolk   12
 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Hugenerd on December 08, 2009, 06:26:20 pm
Shannon appears to be playing against Mount Ida tonight.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on December 08, 2009, 11:21:06 pm
Shannon returns to have 22pts, 10 rbs, 6asst in 38 min. Guess he's healthy now. But emerson's Rouse did not play in the game.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: leelowlang on December 21, 2009, 11:20:07 pm
GNAC First Semester All-Conference Team
Sure this’ll bug somebody…just one basketball junkie’s opinion.

First Team:
Raymond Askew - 6’6”, So., F, Albertus Magnus – 19.5 ppg, 11.2 rpg, 52% FG, 2.2 bpg
Lamonte Thomas - 6’2”, So., G, Johnson & Wales – 24.9 ppg, 50% FG, 2.8 apg, 76% FT, 47% 3FG
Walden St. Juste - 6’1”, Jr., G, Albertus Magnus – 20.3 ppg, 77% FT, 3 spg
Tyler Kelley - 6’3”, Jr., G, St. Joseph (ME) – 16.5 ppg, 53% FG, 46% 3FG
Darren Martinez - 6’0”, Sr., G, Mount Ida – 14.1 ppg, 58% FG, 5.2 apg, 0.9 bpg

Second Team:
Keith Jones - 6’0”, So., G, Mount Ida – 19.8 ppg, 87% FT, 1.6 spg, 39% 3FG
Javon Williams - 6’4”, So, F, Lasell – 19.9 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 57% FG, 96% FT, 2.4 spg, 1.3 bpg
Matt Pepdjonovic - 6’6”, Fr., C, Suffolk – 14.6 ppg, 12.8 rpg, 53% FG, 0.9 bpg
Rashon Jones - 6’3”, Jr., F, St. Joseph (ME) – 11 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 72% FG, 3 apg, 1.8 bpg
Antonio Davis - 6’6”, So., F, Norwich – 11.1 ppg, 10.4 rpg, 1.1 bpg

Player of the Semester:
Raymond Askew - 6’6”, So., F, Albertus Magnus – 19.5 ppg, 11.2 rpg, 52% FG, 2.2 bpg

Newcomer of the Semester:
Keith Jones - 6’0”, So., G, Mount Ida – 19.8 ppg, 87% FT, 1.6 spg, 39% 3FG

Coach of the Semester:
Mitch Oliver, Albertus Magnus
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Emerson_fanatic on December 26, 2009, 05:12:59 pm
leelowlang i have only one major disagreement with you on your first semester all-conference team and that is putting Freshman Matt Pepdjonovic of Suffolk on the 2nd team and not 1st team GNAC. As a Emerson fan i cannot wait to see this young kid face-off vs Rouse. Pepdjonovic is an interesting story. I asked around about this kid, played one year of organized basketball his senior year at Boston College High School, where he came off the bench usually as the 6th man and was learning the game. He was not highly recruited by any means and Suffolk was lucky enough to land him. He's 6'6(probably more like 6'7) has the potential to fill out and be even more of a beast. Saw him play one game vs JWU where he had 18 points and 22 rebounds and seemed unstoppable when he was given the ball in the post. His upside is huge! Very Athletic and smooth at his size and seems like his potential has not been reached yet by any means. He is averaging 15.9 ppg, 12.3 rbg, leads Suffolk in steals,blocks, and fg% and has lead them to a 4-5 record. Good considering they won 3 games last year. I don't believe he is a fluke either, i understand their wins are against lesser opponents but this kid can flat out play. What shocks me is the fact he played one year of basketball and he is already found his game and is dominating at the D3 level. If he stays he will dominate the GNAC for years to come, i would not be surprised if a D2/low D1 school finds out about this kid and scoops him away from Suffolk with a scholarship offer. I'm hoping he does not stick around because Suffolk would have the weapons to be a powerhouse if they can recruit one or two more solid players and as a Emerson fan that would be hard to watch. Good luck to the teams this 2nd semester, watch out for Emerson Shannon is on his way back to team up with Rouse and dominate once again!   
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: leelowlang on December 27, 2009, 12:03:43 pm
Good stuff E-F.  Thanks for the info.  Look forward to watching his continued development.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on December 29, 2009, 10:24:11 am
Leelow, great job with the mid-season awards.  I have just seen a few games this year, but it's nice to know who the top guys are going into next semester (where I will definitely see more games).

Emerson_fanatic, nice job story with the kid from Suffolk.  Interesting side note....you mentioned that he was a back up at BC High.  Apparently the starting 5 at BC High last year (Colin Halpin, who was their leading scorer), is also headed to Suffolk.  I recently heard that he is going to play there second semester.  It will be interesting to see how they both play together.

Looking forward to an exciting semester!  Good luck to all.

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: bmull on December 29, 2009, 07:13:09 pm
In fairness, Isaiah Duke from Emmanuel should be on that list - he had 30 vs. Albertus and is carrying the reb load in the absence of 2 missing "bigs."
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Emerson_fanatic on December 29, 2009, 09:54:42 pm
Gnacalum55 do you know whos the better of the two BC high kids? This could make for an interesting tandum for the rams, maybe one can play the 4, the other the 5.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on December 31, 2009, 09:40:28 am
I don't think he can replace Pepdjonovic at the 5 - like you said, that kid is almost a scholarship player.  My assumption is that Halpin will play the four.  That could be a pretty good combo - Halpin is 6'5 230 - a pretty big 4 for the GNAC. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on January 06, 2010, 09:41:06 am
In honor of 2010 why don't people put out their thoughts on a GNAC all decade team..or something similar. I started watching GNAC play for about 6-7 years now...so would maybe be missing a couple years but there have been some players over the years some that jump out are...

-Rob Hennigan (Emerson)
-Jose Guitan (Lasell)
-Doug Hammond (Southern Vermont)
-Jeremy Shannon (Emerson)
-Jaime Crawford (Lasell)
-John Mcmahon (Rivier)
-Tim Russell (Albertus Magnus)
-Rob Williams-Hinton (Emmanuel)
-Will Dawkins (Emerson)
-Rene Cheatham (Norwich)
-Jeff Carpenter (Rivier)
-John Murphy (Suffolk)
-Jon Godbout (WNEC)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 06, 2010, 11:45:00 am
I have only been watching GNAC basketball for a couple of years. I recognize two names on the list. I would love to see what other people think about an all decade team.

Second semester action will begin soon. Some good match-ups the next 10 days.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on January 06, 2010, 01:33:03 pm
What about Hensley from Norwich?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on January 06, 2010, 03:08:12 pm
Rob Murphy...Rich Glesmann....Steve Georgolius from Emerson
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Worse than Alex Tse on January 06, 2010, 06:27:22 pm
What about Jay "The Birdman" O'Connell for the All Decade Team? I can tell you that he was vital to every team in the GNAC. Granted, he wore an Emerson uniform, but we all know that Bird was good for 7-10 pts for the Lions and probably 10-15 for their opponents. His hilariously shoddy defense was only trumped by his affable smile and generous personality. Not to mention, who made conference play more of a special time than Birdman? As a fan and player in the GNAC for the last 6 years, I can speak from some experience that Jay made the games more fun for everyone; players, coaches, fans, refs, even the PA guys. I think we need to realize that the GNAC team of the decade needs to have the GNAC Person of the decade on it. Clearly William Jay O'Conell isn't going to take any All-GNAC team to the next level on the court. His impact off the court is invaluable, and should probably be recognized, at least on a message board. And really, if it came down to it, he's not terrible at the game. I mean, Kyle Korver and Matt Bonner can play in the NBA, so I'm sure Jay could sit in the corner and drain threes on our All-Decade team.

I'm voting Hank Smith/Sean McCullion in 2012.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 07, 2010, 11:25:48 am
Leelow, great job with the mid-season awards.  I have just seen a few games this year, but it's nice to know who the top guys are going into next semester (where I will definitely see more games).

Emerson_fanatic, nice job story with the kid from Suffolk.  Interesting side note....you mentioned that he was a back up at BC High.  Apparently the starting 5 at BC High last year (Colin Halpin, who was their leading scorer), is also headed to Suffolk.  I recently heard that he is going to play there second semester.  It will be interesting to see how they both play together.

Looking forward to an exciting semester!  Good luck to all.




When will the kid Colin begin playing for Suffolk?? Is he waiting for the semester to begin or will he play over the weekend?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on January 09, 2010, 10:42:14 pm
He played today in Suffolks OT win vs. Lasell.  Played 27 minutes with 7 rebounds and 5 points.  Pepdjonovic had another big game - 17 points, 12 rebounds. 
Title: Re: GNAC / Emmanuel
Post by: bmull on January 15, 2010, 09:55:45 pm
Emmanuel may be on the road to recovery. 6-7 Andre Fuller has returned bolster the small squad that began the season.  Two wins in a row, let's see what happens tomorrow.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: toooldtoplay on January 15, 2010, 11:23:29 pm
That should help. I saw them early in the year. They were scrappy but undersized. Need to put a few more wins together.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on January 16, 2010, 04:33:53 pm
They lost to Emerson. Don't know how much retooling they will be doing. On another note...Emerson beat Albertus Magnus (a surprise) ans has now won 5 in a row...looks like it may be St. Joes and Emerson holding the reigns to the league.

Also watch out for Norwich possibly being a sleeper.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 20, 2010, 04:43:13 pm
It is still very early; and we all know that the teams playing well in mid february are the most dangerous. Right now, teams are just fighting for possible seeding. I would be surprise if it doesn't come down to Emerson and Albertus in the championship game.

Emerson beat Albertus and it was a sloppy game. Very bad officiating. Shannon and Askew missed most of the first half on the bench.. It took away from the game. Emerson got to every lose ball and ran their offense well. But, not as efficient as usual. Albertus had a tough time with Emerson's perimeter defense. The game was ok, but not great because the best players missed significant minutes.

Albertus just beat St. Joe's in Maine. I think top two teams by far are Emerson and Albertus. Let's see if they can make it to the finals.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Worse than Alex Tse on January 21, 2010, 11:30:33 pm
Does no one appreciate the merits of a "team player" on the All-GNAC team? I am surprised....and a little disappointed at the lack of responses to my All-GNAC team nomination.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 23, 2010, 04:50:46 pm
Worse,

I am sorry I don't know who the birdman is. I can't comment too much on an all-decade team.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on January 23, 2010, 07:41:10 pm
I have found it interesting to see how things have changed in the GNAC. Lasell and Emmanuel are at the bottom of the pack. There doesn't seem to be any dominant teams this year.

Also find it interesting to see Pre-Season all american Shannon only averaging 12 or 13ppg compared to his #'s last year (he had a couple 30 point games last year).

Will also be interesting to see how good Askew ends up being after 4 years.

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 34whistle on January 23, 2010, 08:19:00 pm
I don't think you can say that Lasell is at the "bottom of the pack" or even compare them to Emmanuel, who have been horrible this year.  Lasell might not be as strong and dominate has they were in previous years, but they are going to surprise a few teams come tournament time.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 25, 2010, 02:42:26 pm
There are no dominant teams yet. Remember there is still a lot of basketball left to play. I think the top two teams are Emerson and Albertus. Followed by this group: St. Joseph, Norwich, and Lasell. The middle teams are Mt. Ida and Johnson and Wales. However, Rivier, Emmanuel, and Suffolk can still make a playoff push. Suffolk is very improved. Rivier and Emmanuel have fallen quickly.  It should be fun to see which teams will make a run for the remaining three playoff spots. It will also be fun to see fights for seeding.

In fairness to Shannon, he has not been 100% healthy all year long. If he is, he is one of the best players in the league and region. Teams in the GNAC are also not allowing him to take over a game early. But, Shannon has been doing other things.

Askew is solid. He plays bigger than what he is. He can get to the basket whenever he wants. He will get consideration for player of the year if he continues playing the way he is.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 04, 2010, 12:49:39 pm
Does anyone know how GNAC players of the week are selected? Is it a vote or does someone look at the stats?

Two weeks ago Bryan Rouse from Emerson got the GNAC player of the week award, but I don't know if he had the best week. He is a nice player and had a good week. Here are his number: Points (46/23.00 per game), Rebounds (16/8.00 per game), Assists (2/1.00 per game), He also shot 56% from the field and his team went 2 - 0. Winning at home against JW and Norwich. Good week.

But, Ray Askew week was better. Here are his numbers Points (57/28.5 per game), Rebounds (17/ 8.5 per game) Assists (2/1.00 per game), He shot 61% from the field. His team won at St. Joe's (he had 30 and 17) and home against Suffolk. I don't think there is any question who had a better week.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: GNAC player of the week
Post by: bmull on February 05, 2010, 08:25:34 pm
I'm surprised every week that Isaiah Duke from Emmanuel hasn't been recognized - he's had some great games, unfortunately during a bad season. Who does the picking?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 08, 2010, 10:05:57 am
I don't know who does the picking. It is kind of weird to many. It seems like it goes to certain guys every week.

Well, playoffs are coming. Should be fun...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on February 17, 2010, 11:14:34 am
Looks like a 3 legged race between Albertus, Emerson and St. Joe's should be an interesting playoff
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 24, 2010, 04:34:54 pm
First round action happened yesterday:

Albertus beats Rivier
Emerson beats Norwich
Lasell beats St. Joes (OT)
Johnson and Wales beats Mt. Ida

(5) JWU at (1) Albertus - Thursday night at 7
(6) Lasell at (2) Emerson - Thursday night at 7

Both of these games should be close. Good match-ups! JWU and Albertus are both very athletic and they score a lot of points when they meet. Emerson and Lasell both play very solid defense, Emerson has the two senior horses, but Lasell has confidence...

I still believe it will be an Albertus/Emerson final, but thats why they play the game.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Emerson_fanatic on February 24, 2010, 05:19:43 pm
Thursday will in fact be an interesting night, hoping for the two top seeds to come up on top for a 1 v 2 final. Emerson vs albertus is interesting unfortunatley for me i feel like emerson cant matchup with albertus, but anything is possible when shannon is on the court! Askew is great and his athleticism would be tough to stop, hoping he recieves player of the year i think he deserves it after the year he had.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 26, 2010, 12:49:13 pm
Emerson_fanatic.... You called it.

Albertus vs Emerson on Saturday at 1 in New Haven. These are the best two teams in the GNAC. It is appropriate that the finals include them. They split the season series. Emerson winning by 1 in New Haven. Albertus winning by 2 in Boston. Last year, Albertus beat Emerson by double-digits in the playoff. I know Shannon and Rousse remember that. Emerson's coach is the best in the GNAC. He will make adjustments. It will be a great game. Can Lora/Askew stay on the court for the falcons? If they can, they should win. If not, Emerson will.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on March 01, 2010, 12:29:36 pm
Albertus wins it first ever GNAC men's basketball championship beating Emerson on Saturday, 85-69. It was a great day for the falcons! Mitch Oliver was named coach of the year and Ray Askew player of the year the night before. The falcons used a 14-0 run late in the first half to spark the crowd. They led by 10 at the half and by at least 8 the rest of the way. Albertus will now play William Patterson (25-2) in the NCAA tournament. Albertus will be a huge underdog, but this berth might help them with late season recruting and improving a team that returns 11 players, including the five starters.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: goldenpipes on March 01, 2010, 08:38:16 pm
That is incorrect - Albertus won the 1st ever GNAC in 1995-96 - also in New Haven, also vs. Emerson.

That's 10 Finals in 15 years of the GNAC for Emerson, quite an impressive feat considering they've only had a home gym for the last four seasons....but just another reason why coach smith is top shelf.

congrats to shannon and rouse on their excellent careers.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on March 03, 2010, 10:02:48 am
Sorry, I was told that Albertus won the soccer championship in 95-96, the first ever championship given in the GNAC. But, they have never won a basketball GNAC. I will double check my sources.

Thanks goldenpipes.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Hugenerd on March 03, 2010, 10:30:28 am
Albertus won the basketball GNAC championship in 1995-96, both regular season (tied) and conference tourney:

http://www.thegnac.com/sports/mbkb/Archives/1996_Season_Summary.pdf
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on March 04, 2010, 11:52:53 am
Good stuff guys. This is why I check D3hoops everyday. You guys should work as the SIDs at Albertus. lol.

Thanks for the correction and I appreciate the knowledge.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Hugenerd on March 05, 2010, 10:26:01 pm
Albertus makes a shot behind half court to win at buzzer, 59-57!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: scout on March 05, 2010, 10:28:07 pm
Albertus makes a shot behind half court to win at buzzer, 59-57!

That is a huge win over a team many thought had a chance to go deep into the tournament.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 05, 2010, 10:30:33 pm

Albertus showed up a year or two early.  They have a very young team - this experience will make them very dangerous next year.  Ray Askew got his numbers even against a very strong defensive team.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: T990 on March 05, 2010, 11:50:18 pm
Magnus knocks off the #7 team at their gym.  One of the most incredible finishes to a game you'll ever see at any level!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: dman on March 06, 2010, 02:07:45 pm
would like to see the d3hoops people put the buzzer beater replay on the front page.....
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 06, 2010, 03:51:06 pm
Me too. Unfortunately we are not allowed to post from the broadcast feed by NCAA rules.

Our shot was blocked by fans standing in front of the camera. There is video from a cameraman on the floor -- we hope to get access to that and be able to post it.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on March 06, 2010, 06:05:14 pm
Awesome. If you get the camera shot from the baseline, where will you put it up?

Albertus has confidence and matches up well against DeSales. Should be a great game!! Go Falcons!!

Hope the GNAC gets more respect.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Hugenerd on March 06, 2010, 06:18:35 pm
Awesome. If you get the camera shot from the baseline, where will you put it up?

Albertus has confidence and matches up well against DeSales. Should be a great game!! Go Falcons!!

Hope the GNAC gets more respect.

Albertus' athletic bigs could give DeSales trouble.  I like them in tonight's matchup, unless Darnell Braswell goes nuts.  Should be fun to watch.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 06, 2010, 07:51:05 pm

DeSales up 18 at the half.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Hugenerd on March 06, 2010, 08:38:00 pm
DeSales is up by about 40 with about 5 minutes to go in the game.  Albertus Magnus cannot come up with a miracle two nights in a row.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on March 08, 2010, 09:58:29 am
Desales was a much better team than Albertus on Saturday night. They shot the ball very well and outhustled Albertus to every ball. They also held Albertus to a season low in point and field goal pct.

Albertus had a very good year and is returning 5 starters. Hopefully, the win on Friday night, gives the GNAC a little more respect.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 08, 2010, 03:04:06 pm
Awesome. If you get the camera shot from the baseline, where will you put it up?

Albertus has confidence and matches up well against DeSales. Should be a great game!! Go Falcons!!

Hope the GNAC gets more respect.

Front page of D3hoops.com, now.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on March 08, 2010, 03:49:02 pm
Pat Coleman! You are awesome!

What a shot and what a good job by the camera person.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: deiscanton on March 09, 2010, 07:01:16 pm
The Albertus Magnus buzzer beater just made ESPN SportsCenter tonight.  It was shown just now at around 6:58 PM Eastern just before they went to the UConn women's basketball game.  It was SportsCenter's closing highlight-- noted that Albertus Magnus then lost to DeSales by 33 points in the second round.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: ring35 on May 21, 2010, 08:53:07 pm
yall better watch norich this yr ,,got sum new people comin in ...they could take the ring this yr
Title: 2008-2009 Norwich MVP/RotY ready to break out at Cal?
Post by: TheWord on June 10, 2010, 02:43:35 pm
http://www.youtube.com/user/marinatedfreak

 For his accomplishments at Norwich his trophy was never awarded to him, how lame is that? ANy idea if Booth ever got over this loss? Positive responses on this kid at the Newell Camp this year....
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: beaner11 on July 25, 2010, 10:38:46 am
How is everybody doing? Alot of stuff must have happened in the league. Does anyone have a preview and/or a recruiting review?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Emerson_fanatic on October 03, 2010, 11:20:10 pm
who are the top dogs this year? Albertus certainly at the top, how does everyone else shape up? AND has anyone heard if Emerson has any new pieces after huge losses with rouse and shannon? 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: walzy31 on October 04, 2010, 04:59:59 pm
who are the top dogs this year? Albertus certainly at the top, how does everyone else shape up? AND has anyone heard if Emerson has any new pieces after huge losses with rouse and shannon? 

Shannon & Rouse are huge losses as they combined for 34.3 ppg, 12.5 rpg and ~7 apg. I'd expect Tom Messinger to step up and more than double his ppg total from last year of 8.0. He took 155 3pt shots at a 44% clip...that's warrants attention in any conference. If his team can get him the ball in good situations then he should be able to replace at least one of the two graduated top scorers.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: bmull on October 13, 2010, 07:35:03 pm
Friends   Could you give a shout-out if a 10-11 roster gets posted?  Thanks!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on October 14, 2010, 09:33:10 pm
Basketball officially begins tomorrow. I am sure that rosters will be updated on most athletic websites by the end of the month. It should be a fun year. I will also look to see if the GNAC does a conference preview.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: leelowlang on November 18, 2010, 01:45:32 pm
Anyone know why only 7 min from Lora and no Askew in the Albertus/CGA game last night? 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 34whistle on November 29, 2010, 06:11:48 pm
Really surprised with the preseason rankings.  I expected Albertus to be ranked number 1, but shocked that Lasell didn't even make the top 8. Anyone else surprised by that?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on November 30, 2010, 09:59:16 am
I guess I'm not too surprised that Lasell is not in the top 8.  They lost their conference opener to Suffolk at home.  I am more surprised at Emerson being picked so high after losing Shannon and Rouse.  I know they always play hard, but those are major losses for the Lions.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Mayor LISA on November 30, 2010, 10:10:14 am
What's going on in the GNAC this season? There are some good wins and bad losses overall, but has anyone seen the teams play? Albertus has had only 2 games, how did they look? Emerson got a quality win over Babson, how do they look without Shannon and Rouse? Riv beat Colby-Sawyer, not a bad start. Good to see Suffolk is back; haven't seen that name atop the GNAC standings in a few years. Any big games coming up?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on November 30, 2010, 12:09:38 pm
Anyone know why only 7 min from Lora and no Askew in the Albertus/CGA game last night? 

Askew did not play in the first game. Coaches decision.... Lora wasn't feeling well.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on November 30, 2010, 12:14:34 pm
What's going on in the GNAC this season? There are some good wins and bad losses overall, but has anyone seen the teams play? Albertus has had only 2 games, how did they look? Emerson got a quality win over Babson, how do they look without Shannon and Rouse? Riv beat Colby-Sawyer, not a bad start. Good to see Suffolk is back; haven't seen that name atop the GNAC standings in a few years. Any big games coming up?

I saw Albertus on Sunday. They beat a very athletic becker team. Albertus can score; they have 7 players who can put up double digit points. Askew will be mentioned for player of the year again because he can score inside and out. They got bigger in the front court by adding Watson. Lora looks like he lost 10 pounds and is in better condition. Everyone will be gunning for Albertus this year. Should be some very good game. If Albertus can defend the way they did at the end of last year, they should be in the top 3 again this year. They lost one player from last year's team, this team is more experienced. Now they start 1 senior, 3 juniors, and a sophomore. They also have 3 sophomores and a freshmen on their bench rotation.

I would love to hear what else is going on in the GNAC.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on December 02, 2010, 03:34:40 pm
Anyone know what happened with Rivier and Norwich last night?  Game was listed on their schedules, but I couldn't find a result.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: beaner11 on December 02, 2010, 07:41:14 pm
The game got supspended due to condition floor conditions. There was a leak in the roof.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: CSC Spartan on December 05, 2010, 08:22:46 am
http://www.norwichathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/Hockenbury_12-04-10

Congrats Cadets :)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: bballer500 on December 05, 2010, 02:23:26 pm
anyone know when it's rescheduled for?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: CSC Spartan on December 05, 2010, 07:23:49 pm
anyone know when it's rescheduled for?

Dec 12th @Rivier 1:00 PM 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: CSC Spartan on December 05, 2010, 07:31:47 pm
http://www.norwichathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/Hockenbury_12-05-10

Norwich 2 straight won Ed Hockenbury Championship!

MVP 
Ryan Williams     Norwich

All tourney
Orlando Holmes   University of Maine - Augusta
Rob Key       Johnson State College
Corey Willis     Colby-Sawyer College
Antonio Davis     Norwich University

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Emerson_fanatic on December 13, 2010, 06:31:09 pm
mid season reports?
To no surprise albertus is on top the gnac, anyone see someone challenging them? johnson and wales and st joes look like they have the best chance, but i feel like emerson and coach smith always need to be feared
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: leelowlang on December 13, 2010, 11:47:48 pm
GNAC First Semester All-Conference Team
Just one basketball junkie’s opinion...

Player of the Semester:
Ray Askew - 6'6", Jr., F, Albertus Magnus - 23.4 ppg, 13.4 rpg, 2.4 apg, 51% FG, 69% FT, 2.8 bpg

Coach of the Semester:
Rob Sanicola - St. Joseph's (Maine)

Newcomer of the Semester:
Darius Watson - 6'5", Fr., F, Albertus Magnus - 16.0 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 48% FG, 37% 3FG, 73% FT

First Team:
Ray Askew - 6'6", Jr., F, Albertus Magnus - 23.4 ppg, 13.4 rpg, 2.4 apg, 51% FG, 69% FT, 2.8 bpg
Tyler Kelley - 6'3", Sr., G, St. Joseph's - 17.4 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 2.2 apg, 53% FG, 46% 3FG, 100% FT, 1.3 spg
Zach O'Brien - 6'4", Jr., G/F, St. Joseph's - 14.0 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 5.2 apg, 43% FG, 53% 3FG, 77% FT, 1.2 spg
Don Poitras - 6'8", Sr, C, Rivier - 18.5 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 62% FG, 91% FT, 1.3 spg, 2.3 bpg
Lamonte Thomas - 6'2", Jr., G, Johnson & Wales - 25.8 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 4.6 apg, 50% FG, 40% 3FG, 83% FT, 1.6 spg

Second Team:
Colin Halpin - 6'4", So., F, Suffolk - 18.1 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 2.1 apg, 57% FG, 36% 3FG, 86% FT
Chris Petzy - 6'0", Jr., G, St. Joseph's - 17.4 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 46% FG, 44% 3FG, 79% FT, 1.2 spg
Matt Pepdjonovic - 6'7", So., C, Suffolk - 17.5 ppg, 12.8 rpg, 2.0 apg, 55% FG, 1.8 bpg
Walden St. Juste - 6'1", Sr., G, Albertus Magnus - 16.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 2.1 apg, 35% 3FG, 83% FT, 3.0 spg
Javon Williams - 6'4", Jr., G, Lasell - 18.3 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 48% FG, 3.3 spg, 1.3 bpg
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Hugenerd on December 20, 2010, 01:15:19 pm
Albertus is getting more talent for the coming semester, they apparently have a scholarship level player coming in (from D2, St. Anselm), Zack Dugas:

http://www.newenglandrecruitingreport.com/news/article/1765/Commitment-CatchUp.php
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Emerson_fanatic on December 21, 2010, 09:09:58 pm
i like that you put zack obrien on first team, i feel like the teams are two points based. obrien does ALOT for st joes and i believe he is by far their best player.

Albertus with another pick up is scary! Watson seems to be a monster in his own right now throw in a scholarship pg with lora, askew, and st. juste along with depth off the bench.

early season surprise suffolk defeats st. joes (who i thought was the clear cut challenger to albertus) this is going to be an exciting second semester, will be interesting what teams will make big jumps in the gnac this year. Im going to keep going - Emerson playing well as a team with no sure fire go to guy's , johnson & wales handles rivier with their run n gun style of play.  Cant wait for january to roll around 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Mayor LISA on January 10, 2011, 02:14:06 pm
I haven't been able to see many games this season, but so far it seems like there's a lot of parity in the GNAC. Albertus has played some tough teams, but I expected their record to be better than it is. Suffolk beat St. Joe's - did anyone see that one? What happened? Is Suffolk for real or did St. Joe's not show up? Any changes from the beginning of the season on what we can expect to see through league play?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on January 22, 2011, 09:20:21 am
Hank Smith resigns at Emerson - what is going on?  Does anyone have the real scoop?  Seems crazy to me.  He was a good coach who got his players to play hard!  I played against his teams for 4 years, and never had 40 minutes of someone in my face like his teams would do. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: deiscanton on January 22, 2011, 11:21:09 am
Be careful here, Emerson Athletics Department.   To me, this situation looks so much like the Brandeis softball situation when Brandeis Athletic Director Sheryl Sousa let go of former Brandeis softball coach Mary Sullivan out of the blue and hired a younger coach to replace her.   Yes, Brandeis softball did reach the NCAA tournament under the coach that was hired to replace coach Sullivan last season, but Brandeis Athletics got hit with an age discrimination complaint of which the Mass Commission Against Discrimination found probable cause.   I still don't know what if the MCAD complaint/lawsuit has been finally disposed of-- but Brandeis definitely could have handled the situation with former coach Sullivan much better, and I am afraid that Emerson Athletics is about to make the same mistake with the basketball situation that Brandeis did with the softball situation.

I do hope that Emerson did not think that Hank Smith was too old to coach basketball, but my inner gut is telling me that this is the current reason that Hank Smith was let go.   This is an outrage if that is the reason.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 22, 2011, 11:40:34 am
Hank Smith resigns at Emerson - what is going on?  Does anyone have the real scoop?  Seems crazy to me.  He was a good coach who got his players to play hard!  I played against his teams for 4 years, and never had 40 minutes of someone in my face like his teams would do.  

Our story has a little more, including a link to the school newspaper report.

http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2011/01/emerson-coach-resigns
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 22, 2011, 01:39:21 pm
Hank Smith resigns at Emerson - what is going on?  Does anyone have the real scoop?  Seems crazy to me.  He was a good coach who got his players to play hard!  I played against his teams for 4 years, and never had 40 minutes of someone in my face like his teams would do.  

Our story has a little more, including a link to the school newspaper report.

http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2011/01/emerson-coach-resigns

This is really odd.  I've seen coaches forced out, but this seems like there's more to it, or they're being needlessly cryptic.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on January 22, 2011, 04:38:18 pm
Word around the league is that Coach Smith was forced out (which if true...is ridiculous). From the grumblings I've heard and been told i there may have been some tension within the Athletic Department. Also to be noted that word was that Emersons AD (who has been there maybe 3-5 years...not sure when she took over) has a terrible reputation and has fired or "forced out" a good handful of coaches from other departments since she took over. Hopefully the story will break soon...your previous posts' and the newspaper definitely make you think something else is going on
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 22, 2011, 11:50:01 pm
Word around the league is that Coach Smith was forced out (which if true...is ridiculous).

Depends on why.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 25, 2011, 11:03:38 am
Some great commentary on the Smith "resignation" on the campus newspaper's story:

http://www.berkeleybeacon.com/home/index.cfm?event=displayArticle&ustory_id=dec6b422-a924-44fa-a0e3-e6d17d6edb8e
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on January 25, 2011, 01:44:26 pm
Good for all of Coach Smith's former players for commenting on the article.  Great to hear all of the positive comments about the impact that he had on their lives.  Sounds like Emerson lost more than just a coach here.  Good luck to the current Lions, I hope they finish the season strong!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on January 26, 2011, 12:44:08 pm
The comments on that article are very touching. Coach Smith should be proud of that.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 31, 2011, 11:45:14 am
St. Joe's is playing very good basketball. They have strong shooters and rebound very well. They also have a couple of players who are winners. They will be tough to beat this year. JWU is very athletic and gives match-up problems to a lot of GNAC teams. Albertus is struggling to find their way, they added a few players for the second semester. The players are talented but can they fit into the system before conference tournament begins? I think one of these three teams will make a good run during the GNACs and in the NCAAs. IF JWU or Albertus wins conference, I can see St. Joe getting an at large. They have a good body of work and are talented.

Coach Smith is one of those coaches who got the most out of his team. I think Emerson reallys falls off this year. I feel bad for the kids, because they only live this experience once. I hope they can come together, but it looks like they will have a rough finish to their season.

PS. Kelly from St. Joes is a player!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2011, 03:12:13 pm
First Regional Rankings: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2011/02/02/ncaas-mens-regional-rankings/
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: deiscanton on February 02, 2011, 03:53:30 pm
As you can see from the first week's regional rankings, it looks like the GNAC is only going to send the winner of the conference tournament to the NCAAs this season, as no GNAC men's team is regionally ranked in the Feb. 2 regional rankings.

The Monks look to be the favorite to win the GNAC men's tournament at this stage, but they have three tough games coming up-- a home date vs Suffolk-- the Rams were the only team so far to defeat the Monks in GNAC play this season when St. Joe's went to the Regan Gym in Boston.   St. Joe's will look to avenge that loss in Standish, Maine before St. Joe's has two tough road games coming up at Norwich and Johnson & Wales.  If the Monks win these next 3 games, then St. Joe's will be in good shape to get the #1 seed for the GNAC tournament.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: beaner11 on February 06, 2011, 04:19:31 pm
I don't know about you all but i thought that was an interesting week of games. Frirst off, the storm cancelled all the tuesday games so the conference is really unbalanced when it comes to records because half the league played mondy. Emerson continues to be an enigma as they beat teams they shouldn't but lose to teams they should beat, but I don't think they are the same team with out coach smith. I think he brought them together. Does anyone know what is going on with Albertus. Watson all of a sudden disappeared an Lora didn't even play last game. They have so much talent but something has to turn around from them. The battle for the top two may be interesting. I think Johnson and Wales may have the advantage with St Joes losing to a middle of the road Norwich team Saturday. Either way I think that the leagues still goes through those top three teams. Just noticing that Emmanuel is picking things up though. The higher seeded teams may not want to see them come playoff time. Any other thoughts?

PS Did anyone see the Lamonte vs Javon Showdown at Lasell?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: leelowlang on February 07, 2011, 11:15:05 pm
Curious of the posters thoughts of who is the league's best:

Best Team:

Best Coach:

Best Player:

Best Point Guard:

Best Low-Post Scorer:

Best Shooter:

Best Dunker:

Best Defender:
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: deiscanton on February 08, 2011, 09:23:46 pm
Final score from Providence Feb. 8, 2011

Johnson & Wales 106, St. Joe's Maine 90

I caught the last 4 min of the game via John Parente's audiocast from the Harborside Recreation and Athletic Center (a/k/a Harborside RAC)

DIII's leading scorer, Lamonte Thomas, led JWU tonight with 28 pts.  Thomas fell 1 rebound shy of a triple-double.

According to Parente, JWU put 7 players in double figures tonight.   Player of the night for the Wildcats was Santino Cinotti, who came off the bench late to sink 4-4 from 3 pt land in 6 min of action-- breaking an 85-85 tie in the process.

(Box score confirms the 7 JWU players in double figures.    Johnson & Wales sank 11-16 from 3 pt range in the second half of the game.)  

For the Wildcats:

Lamonte Thomas-- 28 pts
Calvin Jones-- 17 pts
Darren Faust, Santino Cinotti, and Mike Harris had 12 points each.
Louis Ferreras had 11 pts
James Folk had 10 pts.

JWU takes the lead in the GNAC with an 11-2 record in GNAC play, while St. Joe's drops to 12-3 in GNAC play.

JWU went 38 of 68 from the field for the game, 13 of 27 from 3 pt land, and 17 of 18 from the charity stripe.

St. Joe's Maine went 30 of 60 from the field for the game, 7 of 18 from 3 pt land, and 23 of 27 from the FT Line.

For the St. Joe's Monks, only 3 players scored in double figures tonight.  Zach O' Brien had 28 pts for the Monks, while Tyler Kelley had 15 pts and Anthony Savino had 10 pts.

Update:  Here is the link to the recap of the game:

 http://providence.jwuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/20110208i4ed5i  (http://providence.jwuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/20110208i4ed5i)

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: OxyBob on February 11, 2011, 09:24:06 am
Emerson got a mention on TotalProSports.com:

LA Lakers Greeted By Taunts From Emerson College Student (http://www.totalprosports.com/2011/02/10/la-lakers-greeted-by-taunts-from-emerson-college-student-video)

OxyBob
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Gray Fox on February 11, 2011, 10:05:42 am
Emerson got a mention on TotalProSports.com:

LA Lakers Greeted By Taunts From Emerson College Student (http://www.totalprosports.com/2011/02/10/la-lakers-greeted-by-taunts-from-emerson-college-student-video)

OxyBob
Classy.
I like the ads below the UTube entry.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 16, 2011, 03:28:06 pm
Week 3 Regional Rankings are out: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2011/02/16/ncaa-2011-regional-rankings-week-3/
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: deiscanton on February 18, 2011, 06:32:25 am
Congratulations to St. Joe's Maine junior Zach O'Brien on becoming the 34th Monk to score 1,000 career points and only the 12th Monk to do so in his junior campaign.

Zach O'Brien accomplished the milestone with 15:15 remaining in the game at Rivier College on Tuesday, Feb. 17 when he hit an uncontested jumpshot.

Zach O'Brien joins Monk senior classmate Tyler Kelley in the Monks's 1,000 point club.  It is only the 8th time in program history that the Monks have had 2 players reach their 1,000th career college point in the same season.

St. Joe's release on the feat is at:   http://www.gomonks.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/20110215gwui1y  (http://www.gomonks.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/20110215gwui1y)

With the victory at Rivier on Tuesday, St. Joe's Maine, at 14-3 in the GNAC, has clinched the #1 seed in the upcoming GNAC tournament for the first time in program history.  (Even if there is a 3 way tie for first at 14-4 in GNAC play between St. Joe's, Albertus Magnus, and Johnson & Wales at the end of play on Saturday, the Monks clinched the tiebreaker with a best 3-1 head to head record vs Albertus Magnus and Johnson & Wales-- 2-0 sweep vs Albertus, 1-1 split vs JWU.)  The Monks will host a quarterfinal game on Tuesday, opponent TBD.

St. Joe's Maine is 3-1 lifetime in GNAC tournament games played on their home floor in Standish, Maine -- (The Monks won the 2008-2009 GNAC Tournament as a #3 seed with 3 straight home victories-- defeating Emmanuel by 2 points in the title game, but lost at home to Lasell in last year's GNAC Tournament Quarterfinal game.)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: deiscanton on February 18, 2011, 03:16:38 pm
Since the GNAC is only going to send 1 team to the NCAAs, I took a look at the ECAC New England teams declared list this morning-- it is shown after the ECAC Metro declared teams, so you may have to scan down the pages a bit:

  Up to date list of teams that have declared that they wish to be considered for ECAC selection if they do not make it to NCAAs.  (http://static.psbin.com/a/t/b9sj9nylbwcqh8/Declared_Teams_M_Bskb.pdf)

I see that the GNAC teams on the list are Johnson & Wales, Rivier, Suffolk, Norwich, and Albertus Magnus.

Suffolk will not be eligible for ECAC selection as they will finish under .500, and Rivier could finish under .500 as well, so I don't see those two making the field for the ECAC New England Tournament.

I would not be surprised if JWU, Albertus, and Norwich all make it into the ECACs if they do not win next week's GNAC tournament-- with Norwich being the team left out if only two GNAC teams from the list make it into the field.

Of those three teams,  Johnson & Wales would be travelling as a road team in the ECAC tournament regardless of how they would be seeded  (JWU declared that their facilities would not be available to host that week), while Norwich and Albertus Magnus have declared that they can host ECAC tournament games.

Of course, while St. Joe's Maine is the top seed for the GNAC tournament, that does not guarantee that the Monks will win the tournament.   While St. Joe's is 3-1 lifetime in GNAC tournament games played on their floor, the home regular season contests that the Monks had vs JWU, Albertus, and Norwich all went down to the final minute, so this GNAC tournament will be exciting and I would not be surprised if the Monks got upset on their home floor next week.   That being said, I am surprised that St. Joe's Maine has not declared for the ECAC just as an insurance policy-- unless the athletic department at St. Joe's does not have the budget to pay for ECAC tournament expenses this season.  (ECAC is a "pay as you go" tournament-- where each school in the field pays their share of the costs to either host or travel.-- that is why schools have to declare to the ECAC that they wish to be considered.)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: deiscanton on February 22, 2011, 08:09:59 pm
Halftime from Providence, RI--

#2 seed Johnson & Wales 45,  #7 seed Suffolk 30

Halftime from Standish, ME---

#1 seed St. Joe's Maine 45,  #8 seed Mt. Ida 33

Game reset from Andrews Hall, Northfield, VT

#4 seed Norwich 14, #5 seed Emerson 9  8:10 left in first half.

No live stats from Albertus Magnus, unfortunately....  :(

Halftime from Northfield, VT--

#4 seed Norwich 26,  #5 seed Emerson 24

Second half Game resets--

#1 seed St. Joe's Maine  69,  #8 seed Mt. Ida 52  7:47 left in regulation

#4 seed Norwich 41, #5 seed Emerson 28  12:07 left in regulation

#1 seed St. Joe's Maine 80, #8 seed Mt. Ida 66  2:47 left in regulation

#4 seed Norwich 47, #5 seed Emerson 35  6:23 left in regulation.

#4 seed Norwich 52, #5 seed Emerson 38  2:48 left in regulation.

#4 seed Norwich 60, #5 seed Emerson 44  0:44 left in regulation.

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: deiscanton on February 22, 2011, 08:46:21 pm
Final scores from the GNAC Quarterfinal games-- Tuesday, Feb. 22, 2011

#2 seed Johnson & Wales 96,  #7 seed Suffolk 63

#1 seed St. Joe's Maine 82,  #8 seed Mt. Ida 71

#4 seed Norwich 62,  #5 seed Emerson 44

#3 seed Albertus Magnus 100, #6 seed Rivier 82

GNAC Semifinals--  Thursday, Feb. 24, 2011

#4 seed Norwich  @ #1 seed St. Joe's Maine

#3 seed Albertus Magnus @ #2 seed Johnson & Wales

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 23, 2011, 03:52:19 pm
Final Regional Rankings are out before Selection Sunday: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/category/ncaa-stuff/regional-rankings/
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: deiscanton on February 25, 2011, 08:39:09 am
 Final scores from the GNAC Semifinal games-- Thursday, Feb. 24, 2011

#2 seed Johnson & Wales 128 , #3 seed Albertus Magnus 107

 #1 seed St. Joe's Maine 72 , #4 seed Norwich 56

 GNAC Championship game -- Saturday, Feb. 26, 2011

#2 seed Johnson & Wales @ #1 seed St. Joe's Maine
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: deiscanton on February 25, 2011, 08:52:43 am
  Johnson & Wales's Men's Basketball Posts a 128-107 Win over Albertus Magnus in GNAC Semifinals

  http://providence.jwuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/201102244dfcjr  (http://providence.jwuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/201102244dfcjr)

Box score:    http://providence.jwuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/files/jwuamcgs.htm  (http://providence.jwuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/files/jwuamcgs.htm)

  128 Points scored by Johnson & Wales is a new GNAC single game team record.

  JWU shot 43 of 57 from field for a 75.4% FG pct on the evening-- New GNAC Tournament single game record.

JWU junior Lamonte Thomas had a double-double of 40 points and 20 assists-- the 20 assists for the game is a new single game GNAC individual record.

Lamonte Thomas got his 40 pts last night on 11-15 from the field shooting, 0-2 from 3 pt land, 18-20 from the charity stripe.

Lamonte Thomas comes into the GNAC title game averaging 30.1 PPG,-- 31.4 PPG in GNAC play-- the 30.1 PPG leads DIII in scoring.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: deiscanton on February 25, 2011, 09:53:51 am
On January 30, 2011, the Providence Journal, the city newspaper of Providence, RI, did a feature article on JWU's Lamonte Thomas, who leads DIII in average PPG:

  Bill Reynolds:  Basketball World is Finally Getting to Know J&W's Thomas:

 http://www.projo.com/sports/billreynolds/reynolds_lamonte_thomas_01-30-11_Q6M7T72_v4.c0616f.html  (http://www.projo.com/sports/billreynolds/reynolds_lamonte_thomas_01-30-11_Q6M7T72_v4.c0616f.html)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: deiscanton on February 25, 2011, 10:18:31 am
On the GNAC title game:

I have to go with Johnson & Wales as a road favorite to beat St. Joe's Maine tomorrow and clinch the NCAA bid out of GNAC due to that performance last night.

The GNAC made the right decision in choosing Lamonte Thomas as GNAC Player of the Year.  I would have loved to see Brandeis play Johnson & Wales next week in the ECAC New England Tournament, but JWU certainly has higher aspirations in mind, and I think that the Wildcats will get the victory in Maine tomorrow.  St. Joe's was fortunate to escape in December with a double OT victory-- the Monks won't be so fortunate tomorrow, IMO.

If JWU wins tomorrow, we could have another storybook first round NCAA game like what Albertus Magnus did last season-- Lamonte Thomas definitely is a player who, despite his stats, is one that has been playing under the radar in DIII all this season due to the fact that there are so many conference games in the GNAC.  Hopefully, DIII will get to know a little more about this player next week in the NCAA Tournament.

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on February 25, 2011, 12:22:18 pm
Did I heard the boxscore right yesterday that said JWU shot 75% from the field??  I'd have to agree, I pegged the JWU/Albertus winner to end up winning the tournament, think either one of them would beat the Monks on the road.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: deiscanton on February 26, 2011, 05:01:41 am
Preview of the GNAC Title Game-- (St. Joe's Maine game notes)

Monks and Wildcats Set to Clash in 2011 GNAC Championship

 http://www.gomonks.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/201102257q6mvn  (http://www.gomonks.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/201102257q6mvn)

Note:  As the St. Joe's Maine press release shows, JWU's Lamonte Thomas's 30.3 PPG going into the GNAC title game not only leads NCAA DIII men's hoop, it leads in all 3 divisions of NCAA men's basketball.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: deiscanton on February 26, 2011, 06:52:56 pm
Final of GNAC title game--

Johnson & Wales 76, St. Joe's Maine 66

  Johnson & Wales wins GNAC Tournament-- clinches automatic bid to NCAA DIII Tournament

Lamonte Thomas of Johnson & Wales:  33 pts on 12-15 shooting from the field, 0-0 from 3 pt land, 9-11 from the charity stripe.

Lamonte Thomas also had 7 rebounds and 6 assists in the GNAC title game.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on March 03, 2011, 12:07:22 pm
Great stuff! Awesome articles and updates. Lamonte is a player and has a strong supporting unit. They didn't miss a shot against Albertus. How do they fair in the NCAAs?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: deiscanton on March 04, 2011, 04:56:30 am
On last night's edition of Hoopsville (a/k/a March 3, 2011 edition), Dave 'd-mac' McHugh talked with Hoopsville Atlantic Region Reporter Jody King, who along with Frank Rossi will be doing internet coverage  of this weekend's Ramapo pod.

The segment starts at the 1 hour 39 min mark, and the game between Ramapo and Johnson & Wales was previewed starting at around the 1 hour 41 min mark thereabouts.   The March 3, 2011 edition of Hoopsville can be found at:

  http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13069967  (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13069967)


Just for reference--Information courtesy of March 3, 2011 edition of Hoopsville--

GNAC men are 3-10 in NCAA Basketball tournament play over the past 10 years.

1.)  S. Vermont went 1-1 in the NCAA tournament in the 2002-2003 season-- defeating Lasell in the first round of the March, 2003 NCAA DIII basketball tournament, and losing at Amherst in the second round.   Lasell was a Pool B selection to that tournament, as I believe that the North Atlantic Conference, of which Lasell was a member at that time, was not yet eligible for an automatic bid to the NCAAs.  S. Vermont was a member of GNAC at the time-- this was when Ryan Marks was the coach at S. Vermont, and current Hoopsville Atlantic Region Reporter Jody King was a S. Vermont assistant coach.

2.)  Norwich won a first round game in the March, 2006 NCAA DIII tournament before bowing in the second round.  Norwich's first round game was a Thursday first round game vs Elms that was played at Andrews Hall on the Norwich campus.    The Cadets beat Elms before travelling to St. John Fisher for the Saturday second round game, where they lost and bowed out of the tournament.

3.)  In last year's tournament, Albertus Magnus shocked #7 William Paterson in the first round on Byron Reaves's "buzzer-beater" shot that made it to ESPN's SportsCenter a few days later.  The Falcons lost their second round game to DeSales.

4.)  Johnson & Wales last made it to the NCAA tournament in March, 2004-- losing to Salem St. in the first round.

I found the conversation between Dave 'd-mac' McHugh and Jody King previewing the JWU/Ramapo game on Hoopsville worthy of a listen.

Just for my take on this,  I have Ramapo winning tonight-- but that is why "storybook" games happen-- these are the type of games that you least expect to happen.  It is possible that Lamonte Thomas can carry JWU to a first round win-- but if that happens, that is it-- I do not expect the Wildcats to make it to the Sweet 16.
  
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: leelowlang on March 05, 2011, 12:03:56 am
Lamonte Thomas, 6'2", Jr. has just been sensational...are you kidding me with these numbers?

Tonight:  NCAA 1st Round - J&W 114, Ramapo 106 (OT) - 43 pts, 9 asts, 7 rebs, 5 stls, 15-30 FG, 5-9 3FG
2/26: GNAC Final - J&W 76, St. Joe's 66 - 33 pts, 7 rebs, 6 asts, 2 to's, 12-15 FG, 9-11 FT
2/24: GNAC Semi - J&W 128, Albertus 107 - 40 pts, 20 asts, 5 to's, 6 rebs, 11-15 FG, 18-20 FT
2/22: GNAC Qtr - J&W 96, Suffolk 63 - 33 pts, 8 rebs, 4 asts, 3 stls, 10-19 FG, 4-6 3FG, 9-12 FT
2/19: GNAC Finale - J&W 91, Emmanuel 81 - 37 pts, 11 rebs, 2 asts, 11-19 FG, 14-15 FT

Last 5 Games:
5-0, a NCAA win, a GNAC 'Chip, 4 playoff games, and an opponent Senior Day
37.2 ppg, 8.2 apg, 7.8 rpg, 59-98(60%)FG, 58-70(83%)FT, 14 FTA/g, 10-20(50%)3FG, 2.2/1 A/TO, 39.4 mpg

Otherwordly...just ridiculous.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: deiscanton on March 05, 2011, 03:00:53 pm
Here is Johnson & Wales's recap of the game vs. Ramapo:

 Men's Basketball Knocks Off Ramapo, 114-106, in First Round of NCAA Tournament

  http://providence.jwuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/20110304e1p4x7  (http://providence.jwuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/20110304e1p4x7)

The victory last night was the first NCAA tournament win for Johnson & Wales in any sport according to the press release.

JWU was down 9 with 4:04 left in regulation before rallying to force overtime.

From the press release, here are some post-game comments from JWU head coach Jamie Benton:

"When we were down by nine, I told them the game wasn't over and we had to go back to being ourselves.  Lamonte (Thomas) hit those two big threes, Calvin (Jones) had the jumper from the corner and we were back in business.  They (JWU) picked it up when they had to, and I'm very happy our seniors got to experience an NCAA victory."
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 05, 2011, 04:10:20 pm
A little more on Lamonte Thomas' great night:

http://www.d3hoops.com/playoffs/men/2011/lamonte-thomas-night
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: deiscanton on March 05, 2011, 05:21:35 pm
ECAC New England Semifinal action

E. Connecticut 23, Albertus Magnus 10 9:23 left in first.

Update:  Halftime from Geissler Gym-- E. Connecticut 37, Albertus Magnus 31

Update-- Eastern Connecticut 41, Albertus Magnus 37  14:50 left in regulation
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: deiscanton on March 05, 2011, 06:13:36 pm
Second half updates-- ECAC New England semifinal action

E. Connecticut 43, Albertus Magnus 43  12:45 left in regulation

E. Connecticut 47, Albertus Magnus 43  9:46 left in regulation

E. Connecticut 55, Albertus Magnus 54  4:16 left in regulation  (Albertus's Ray Askew fouled out of the game with 5:20 remaining.)

E. Connecticut 57, Albertus Magnus 54  3:24 left in regulation

E. Connecticut 63, Albertus Magnus 57  47.7 seconds left in regulation

  Final:  E. Connecticut 66, Albertus Magnus 61-- E. Connecticut advances to play the winner of Brandeis v. MCLA in Sunday's ECAC New England Title game. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 17, 2011, 11:09:13 pm
http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2011/05/ohio-state-coach-takes-emerson-job
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 18, 2011, 08:14:44 am
http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2011/05/ohio-state-coach-takes-emerson-job

Emerson seems like a fun place to work, I hope he stays around a while.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: officer cadet on May 23, 2011, 08:58:42 pm
First commitment.
Evan Tullar (Spaulding High,VT) commit to Norwich University!!

http://www.newenglandrecruitingreport.com/news/article/1925/Commitment-CatchUp.php
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: officer cadet on June 15, 2011, 09:57:57 pm
B.J. Dunne named an assistant coach @Emerson.

http://www2.emerson.edu/athletics/men/basketball/Meet-the-Coach.cfm
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: officer cadet on June 21, 2011, 10:07:42 pm
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/nacda/sports/directorscup/auto_pdf/d3june17.pdf

Norwich Ranks 86th in Division III NACDA Director’s Cup Standings!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: officer cadet on August 03, 2011, 09:14:17 am
http://www.norwichathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2011-12/schedule

11-12 season schedule out!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: officer cadet on August 06, 2011, 12:49:16 am
GNAC Conference rivals St,Joe (ME) will travel to England in late August.
Monks will face 4 club teams in 9 days trip ,also conduct one-day clinics for young kids.

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: officer cadet on August 20, 2011, 04:16:23 am
St joe's Maine tabs assistant coach.
Sean Costigan played for Stonehill skyhwaks(D2) and a year D1 school UMAINE.
he graduated Stonehill college in May of 2011.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: NJBalla35 on September 23, 2011, 02:01:01 pm
Former NBA player Billy Curley to be an assistant at Emerson.  Looks like Coach O'Brien is assembling a pretty good staff there.
http://hoopdirt.com/blog/81897dab/new-england-dirt/
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: officer cadet on October 06, 2011, 09:35:23 am
Another former NBA player re-join GNAC schools coach position.
Emmanuel college hire Bruce Seals.
He is former Emerson college assistant coach.
http://hoopdirt.com/blog/72e2f5b4/daily-dirt-10-5-11/
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: leelowlang on October 08, 2011, 12:40:57 am
GNAC

2010-11 Final Standings

1.   St. Joseph’s (ME) – 20-8, 15-3 GNAC
2.   Johnson & Wales (RI) – 21-9, 14-4 GNAC
3.   Albertus Magnus – 18-11, 14-4 GNAC
4.   Norwich – 16-11, 11-7 GNAC
5.   Rivier – 12-14, 7-11 GNAC
6.   Emerson – 10-16, 7-11 GNAC
7.   Mount Ida – 9-17, 6-12 GNAC
8.   Suffolk – 8-18, 6-12 GNAC
9.   Emmanuel – 6-19, 5-13 GNAC
10.   Lasell – 6-19, 5-13 GNAC

2010-11 Conference Championship
o   Johnson & Wales (RI) 76, St. Joseph’s (ME) 66

NCAA Performance
o   Johnson & Wales (RI) 114, Ramapo 106 (1st Round)
o   Buffalo State 96, Johnson & Wales 72 (2nd Round)

RETURNING LEADERS
•   Scoring
o   Lamonte Thomas – Johnson & Wales – 6’2”, Sr., G/F – 30.7 ppg
o   Javon Williams – Lasell – 6’4”, Sr., G – 23.8 ppg
o   Ray Askew – Albertus Magnus – 6’6”, Sr., F – 21.6 ppg
o   Sean Bertanza – Lasell – 6’2”, Jr., G – 19.6 ppg
o   Isiah Benjamin – Mount Ida – 6’1”, Sr., G – 17.3 ppg
•   Rebounding
o   Matt Pepdjonovic – Suffolk – 6’7”, Jr., F – 13.3 rpg
o   Ray Askew – Albertus Magnus – 6’6”, Sr., F – 11.1 rpg
o   Antonio Davis – Norwich – 6’6”, Sr., F – 9 rpg
•   Assists
o   Lamonte Thomas – Johnson & Wales – 6’2”, Sr., G/F – 6.1 apg
o   Justin Barall – Suffolk – 5’7”, Sr., G – 4.8 apg
o   Zach O’Brien – St. Joseph’s (ME) – 6’4”, Sr., G – 4.3 apg
•   Steals
o   Javon Williams – Lasell – 6’4”, Sr., F – 2.4 spg
•   Blocks
o   Matt Pepdjonovic – Suffolk – 6’7”, Jr., F – 2.1 bpg
•   FG %
o   Tom Poitras – Rivier – 6’5”, So., F - .619 FG%
•   3-pt FG %
o   Chris Petzy – St. Joseph (ME) – 6’0”, Sr., G - .455 3FG%
•   3FG Made
o   Lamonte Thomas – Johnson & Wales – 6’2”, Sr., G/F – 73 3FG
•   FT %
o   Calvin Jones – Johnson & Wales – 6’1”, Sr., G - .845 FT%
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: officer cadet on October 11, 2011, 01:43:51 am
http://www.smcathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2011-12/releases/201110104zhrsi

Our former head assistant coach hired D2 school.
Norwich will announce New assistant coach soon.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on November 07, 2011, 10:24:26 pm
Going to see the Albertus/Bridgeport scrimmage tomorrow @ UB night.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on November 13, 2011, 08:17:30 am
Saw Suffolk play UNH on Friday night.  Suffolk may be pretty good this year.  UNH put it on them in the first half, but Suffolk came roaring back in the 2nd.  Suffolk was down 71-62 and making a run with under 5 to play when both of their big guys fouled out on almost back to back plays.  If they stay in the game, it would have come down to the wire.  I am not sure how good UNH is this year, but it was a pretty good showing by Suffolk.  UNH could not guard the two BC High kids inside.  Also, the kid #1 is a ridiculous athlete on the wing.  The little PG played well too.  Hit a pretty nasty buzzer beater going into the half.  Should be interesting to see if Suffolk can challenge St. Joe's and Albertus this year.  Did any one see JWU at Brown?  Curious to hear about that one too. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: deiscanton on November 16, 2011, 09:52:45 am
Lasell defeated Brandeis last night, 91-82

Lasell boosted their team's roster this season with a lot of transfers.  3 transfers joined the 2 Lasell captains in the starting lineup for last night's contest.

The 3 other starters for Lasell last night were:

(1)  Arthur Alexander-- juco transfer-- Played last season at Broward College (Florida.)

(2)  Sonny Mello-- juco transfer-- Played last season at Bristol Community College (Massachusetts)-- 2nd team all New England last year on the junior college circuit.

(3)  Nate DiSessa-- Senior-- Played '07-08 season for Elms; Played '08-09 season for Keene State, sat out one year academically + redshirt.  He would have been a grad student this year if he went 4 straight years in college.

Leading bench point scorer for Lasell with 15 pts off the bench in last night's contest was Brandon Ganesh, a DII transfer.  He played last season for DII Salem International University (West Virginia.)

With these transfers, Lasell should be able to have a winning season this year and possibly challenge for the GNAC title.  No team was able to put up 90+ points on Brandeis last season.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on November 17, 2011, 09:38:54 am
Has anyone seen a season preview of the GNAC?  I've been checking the gnac website but found nothing...

I think the GNAC will have a fun year; it sounds like Lasell, Suffolk have improved their teams. St. Joe, JWU, and Albertus look good as well.

Albertus brings everyone back this year that played significant minutes. They also get back three players who were suspended for violating team rules in February. One of them is Dugas their combo guard who is big and smart. Askew and Watson look to be the horses for Albertus, both can play in the post and shoot the three making it hard to defend Albertus. They also bring in a few more athletic guards and forwards. Look for up tempo basketball from Oliver's team.

They beat Coast Guard at home on Tuesday night. They committed 18 fouls, something they need to clean up. Coast Guard free throw shooting kept them in the game. It also slowed down the pace. Final score was 86-75.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 17, 2011, 12:18:37 pm

Anna Maria is bringing a strong team over from the CCC, as well.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on November 17, 2011, 04:23:58 pm
Hoops fan.. you usually have a good feel for the gnac.. Any preseason previews?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 17, 2011, 05:10:42 pm
Hoops fan.. you usually have a good feel for the gnac.. Any preseason previews?

That is undeserved praise, for sure.

I really don't know what to make of the league this year.  I usually try to give it until January and then develop a feel for what's going on.

Lasell gave Brandeis a good drubbing opening night, but I discount opening week games about as much as possible.  Askew is back at Albertus, but I'm a bit "wait and see" on the team they're putting around him, at least from a consistency standpoint.  I love Lamonte Thomas, but I'm very concerned about their severe lack of a post-game; they got torched down low Tuesday.

Anna Maria is new to the conference and they lost a fair amount from last year, but they've been recruiting well of late and Anthony Click is a legit player.

I'm not sure the overall league quality will be as high as it was five or ten years ago, but it should be very competitive.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on November 19, 2011, 09:59:05 pm
Western Connecticut @ Albertus Magnus on Tuesday night will be a good test for both teams.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on November 23, 2011, 09:07:47 pm
Albertus wins by 19 over West Conn. There is so much to tell, I don't know where to start.....

Albertus is very deep this year; along with the usual names of Askew, Watson, Lora, Jackson - Albertus has a few key new faces...

Dugas - not exactly new, but only played 5 games last season is a force and maybe the best all around guard in the GNAC. He has a very sweet jump shot, but also controls the offense. He is a good decision maker, can run, and has a big body to create match up problems in a league that has smaller guards. He also plays excellent defense.

Smith - He did not play the first game, however,  in his few minutes in his Albertus debut, he the fans some things to cheer about. He had a very crowd pleasing break away dunk after a steal. He is as athletic as Walden St. Jude, we will have to see if he can score like him, but he will play defense on the top scoring options in the gnac.

Saunders - another mid year transfer who was behind walden and Byron Reaves last year. He is long and quick. Good on the ball defender and can hit the 3.

Along with these new faces you have the top 2....

Askew looks better than last year. He can score inside and out and is a work horse around the glass. His free throw shooting has to improve, but he seems unstoppable the first two games... I know he is motivated to return to the NCAAs..

Watson is in amazing shape.. He out runs every person on the court and has an explosive first step this year. He won the GNAC rookie of the year and he said it was his worst year since 9th grade. Last year he was indecisive and didn't attack. This year, very different. He goes to the basket, he pulls up, he knows exactly what he wants to do with the ball.

Look for Albertus to score plenty this year and play a lot of press defense. They look good, but it is early.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: high flyer 21 on November 29, 2011, 10:02:20 pm
URGENT: Why was Lamonte Thomas not playing in JWU's game against Rhode Island College tonight?  He wasn't dressed and sat at the end of the bench.  I'm guessing he's injured...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on November 29, 2011, 11:54:30 pm
URGENT: Why was Lamonte Thomas not playing in JWU's game against Rhode Island College tonight?  He wasn't dressed and sat at the end of the bench.  I'm guessing he's injured...

He hyperextended his knee Sunday @ Western.  He says he'll be fine, but he can't play until he gets the results of the MRI which should be tomorrow or Thursday.  I'd expect him to be in uniform and starting for Saturday's game.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Major Hoople on December 05, 2011, 11:31:09 am
Anyone know if Lamonte Thomas is still out?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on December 05, 2011, 08:38:17 pm
Anyone know if Lamonte Thomas is still out?


Yah, he'll be out until after New Year's I heard.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on December 09, 2011, 08:49:34 am
Nope, he's back.....

Thomas played 36 minutes and had 31 points.  Not enough though - Suffolk beat them by 20 @ JWU. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: FormerGNACplayer on December 12, 2011, 12:47:24 am
This is the best I've seen Albertus. I watch them play against Rivier and Norwich... Both blow outs by a long shot! Far more athlectic than any team in the GNAC and this is Olivers most talented team. See anyone beating them in the GNAC?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on December 12, 2011, 01:05:18 am
I don't think they'll go undefeted in conference play, probably won't lose at home, but may lose once or twice on the road (J&W and St. Joes being the most likely).  They completely obliterited a very good West Conn team in November, so I'm impressed.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: FormerGNACplayer on December 16, 2011, 07:57:01 pm
If they have more months like that than I don't see anyone beating them in the GNAC. They already beat St.Joes at home and go against a JWU team without Jones and Fraust from last years championship season. It will be interesting to see how it unfolds. Anyone seen Emerson or Suffolk play recently? Any new players emerging out the Gnac?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on December 22, 2011, 09:13:38 am
I've seen Albertus play 4 games this year. They look strong; however, without seeing the rest of the GNAC, it will be tough to know who are contenders in the league until late January. Lasell has played well, JWU has struggled, and Emerson looks like they have been playing better. Anna maria is new to the conference and have talent, there might be a unfamiliar factor when playing them; they might end up with a home playoff game. I would like the gnac to update the standings; last year, standing are on the website. Very frustrating!

Happy Holidays everyone!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 09, 2012, 03:27:25 pm
On Tuesday, Ray Askew has an opportunity to pass Carpenter's GNAC record for rebounding. Carpenter who played at Rivier had 1,001 rebounds in his great career.  Askew will enter the game (at Rivier) with 998 career rebounds. It look like Askew could be added to the all-time GNAC team when all is said and done. 


There are some good games coming up in the middle of January. We should know a lot more about the league by January 27.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: FormerGNACplayer on January 11, 2012, 12:20:56 am
Askew from Albertus breaks the record! What a great career for him. Does anyone see A contender for Albertus for the GNAC title??
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on January 11, 2012, 02:38:18 pm
Askew from Albertus breaks the record! What a great career for him. Does anyone see A contender for Albertus for the GNAC title??


Probably St. Joseph's is the most challenging, but they already beat them.  J&W has been a collassal dissapointment this year (at least in my opinion), but really Albertus is the class of the conference this year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: albertusalum on January 17, 2012, 07:45:53 am
Does anyone see albertus getting any top 25 recognition soon?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 17, 2012, 09:20:40 pm
Albertus Alum - I think the GNAC is considered a less competitive league; therefore a team has to either load up on tough out of conference opponents or go 22-1 before it begins to get top 25 votes. Albertus did beat Western CT State who was ranked 24 in the nation last week. But, Albertus still isn't receiving votes for the top 25.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: albertusalum on January 18, 2012, 08:23:44 am
That is kind of annoying because i know how far this program has come. Also, as you mentioned they have beaten West Conn earlier this year but i think West Conn may also drop a little bit seeing as they just lost another game to a team they shouldnt have lost to.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on January 18, 2012, 12:56:06 pm
That is kind of annoying because i know how far this program has come. Also, as you mentioned they have beaten West Conn earlier this year but i think West Conn may also drop a little bit seeing as they just lost another game to a team they shouldnt have lost to.


As a Western Connecticut studuent, let me say this: Eastern Connecticut is a better team and was playing at home.  No real surprise Eastern won last night, however the Plymouth loss on Saturday was bad.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: albertusalum on January 18, 2012, 04:22:29 pm
the Plymouth Loss is what i was talking about (i didnt see they lost again to Eastern). I wish i got to see Western play though, Daquan Brooks on paper looks like a pretty legit player.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on January 19, 2012, 12:13:02 am
the Plymouth Loss is what i was talking about (i didnt see they lost again to Eastern). I wish i got to see Western play though, Daquan Brooks on paper looks like a pretty legit player.


If you want to see them play, come to Danbury on Tuesday for the RIC game.  That'll feel like a playoff game; both teams already have 2 conference losses and can't afford a 3rd.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: ECSUalum on January 19, 2012, 09:40:00 pm
the Plymouth Loss is what i was talking about (i didnt see they lost again to Eastern). I wish i got to see Western play though, Daquan Brooks on paper looks like a pretty legit player.


If you want to see them play, come to Danbury on Tuesday for the RIC game.  That'll feel like a playoff game; both teams already have 2 conference losses and can't afford a 3rd.

I will be there, and rooting for the Colonials and hopefully a healthy Western squad.  Should be a great matchup.  Go Colonials!!!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on January 20, 2012, 01:33:05 am
Not goin up to Willamantic for the Eastern/Keene game which should also be a very good game??
Also, if your going up, the parking situation is brutal up at Western.  Their building this new visual arts center, so they took out literally 75% of the parking spaces, and of the 25% they let 20% of it is for faculty and staff only  >:(

Only places to park now (at least that I'm aware) is anywhere on the street, behind the O'Neil center (take that driveway that takes you past the football field) and follow that to the lot at the end.  Even though it says its for faculty and staff only I've parked there without a problem.  If you go in that way, you can enter the gym through the main building (take a left when you enter the building and go down the stairs, and straight in to enter the gymnasium).  As usual, the lot in front of the O'neil center is still availible, but they tore up a lot of the spots.  They built this new commuter lot on where the practice field used to be (first driveway on the right), but that's a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG ways away from where your going, but that's the only alternative.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 21, 2012, 12:36:41 pm
We're working to get the Albertus Magnus coach on Hoopsville for tomorrow night.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 21, 2012, 08:08:02 pm
That would be great Pat!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: albertusalum on January 25, 2012, 09:17:47 am
Albertus gets a little top 25 recognition with 4 votes. Watched them play Lasell last night and Askew put on his own little dunk highlight reel.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 25, 2012, 11:36:34 am
Great interview by Mitch Oliver on the Hoopsville show....

Albertus is playing at a very high level. They have a tough game on the road against Emmanuel; the Saints are playing very well. The game is on Thursday. The team is motivated and Ray Askew is playing like an All American.

Let's see if they get more votes if they continue to win.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: albertusalum on January 25, 2012, 02:37:50 pm
The interview was great. Mitch is all class and bringing his D1 coaching skills to this level is obvious to see when watching games. And whether they are up by 1 or 20 his coaching strategy and subbing doesnt change, nor does his temper (haha). I am sure there are some teams in the GNAC that can run with Albertus for a short time but 10-0 12-2 runs they go on seems effortless at times. that will be hard for other teams to compete with in this conference.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 25, 2012, 04:41:08 pm
It is sad that they don't get the respect they deserve. But, they will be a dangerous team come february.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on January 26, 2012, 01:47:05 am
It is sad that they don't get the respect they deserve. But, they will be a dangerous team come february.


If you keep winning, the results will take of itself.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 26, 2012, 07:43:42 pm
Albertus 46 Emmanuel 42 at the half in Mass.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 26, 2012, 08:40:06 pm
88-71 Falcons...

Albertus dominated the paint on both sides of the court in 2nd half. They blocked shots and forced bad shots by the Saints. They also were able to get easy lay-up and dunks.

Watson and Askew again led the way. Strong defense by Smith, Lora, Jimmy E, and Dugas. Jackson moved the ball well, and if he continues to share the ball that way, defenders will play off of him and he is able to put up numbers, especially behind the arc.

Good win by Albertus! 16-1 (10-0) in GNAC.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 28, 2012, 09:35:40 pm
Askew scores 2,000 point in win over Mt. Ida on Saturday. He finishes with 31 (2,004 career) points. What a year he is having on a very good team. Albertus returns to action at home on Monday at 7pm vs Suffolk.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 01, 2012, 02:13:46 pm
Great article on d3hoops this morning about Albertus men's team. Nice to see that the GNAC can get coverage this year, with so many great teams in New England.

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 04, 2012, 10:44:39 pm
Albertus improves to 20-1 on the year and 15-0 in the conference. They had a great week; 3-0, winning by 40 and 24 at home. And a come from behind win on the road vs Anna Maria on Thursday. They clinched the 1 seed in the conference tournament.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 07, 2012, 08:41:45 am
Albertus is ranked 24 in the country. Regional rankings come out tomorrow; will be interested to see how it looks. I would imagine that Midd, Amherst, Keene State, MIT, will be ranked above Albertus because the region doesn't consider the GNAC a tough conference.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 07, 2012, 08:47:53 am
Regional Rankings will be interesting as well; first one comes out this Wednesday. The teams that play the best in February usually make big runs in Conference Tournaments and beyond... Are there any teams that might be off the radar right know that anyone thinks might have a run left in their respective conferences?

In the GNAC, I think Johnson and Wales could be dangerous. They have a great scorer in Lamont Thomas; they won the conference last year and have the ability to shoot the 3 ball very well.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 08, 2012, 11:52:12 am
Albertus improves to 21-1 on the year as they beat Trinity on the road. Askew had another great game; scoring 31 pts. Lora had another double double. Final score was 85-73. Albertus has already earned the number 1 seed and homecourt through conference playoffs. They play Lasell on the road on Saturday/
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on February 08, 2012, 01:16:53 pm
Albertus is ranked 24 in the country. Regional rankings come out tomorrow; will be interested to see how it looks. I would imagine that Midd, Amherst, Keene State, MIT, will be ranked above Albertus because the region doesn't consider the GNAC a tough conference.

The Northeast will be an absolute mess to rank.  You could legitimately have 6 or 7 teams (Amherst, Mid, Albertus, MIT, WPI, Keene & Western) in any order.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 08, 2012, 03:11:17 pm
7 I think the region is very strong.. Makes for fun chats on the boards and games on the court..

Here is a quick highlight from Albertus/Trinity game..

Askew is the player that dunks a lot. lol.

http://www.ctnow.com/videogallery/67927885/Sports/albertus-magnus-vs-trinity-highlights-02/07#pl-62894825
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on February 08, 2012, 04:36:09 pm
A little disrespect on the part of Albertus, imo, coming in 12th in Northeast.  This tells me Albertus has to win the conference tournament to get into the field.  They should definitely be a lot higher.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 08, 2012, 04:37:11 pm
Regional Rankings...... Week 1.

Northeast
1 Amherst 18-2 20-2
2 Middlebury 18-1 20-1
3 Rhode Island College 16-4 16-4
4 Western Connecticut 17-4 17-4
5 WPI 16-4 16-4
6 Eastern Connecticut 17-4 17-4
7 MIT 20-1 20-1
8 Keene State 14-3 17-4
9 Wesleyan (Conn.) 17-4 17-5
10 Tufts 16-6 16-6
11 Becker 16-4 16-4
12 Albertus Magnus 20-1 20-1

Maybe the people simply pick out of a hat.  But, there is no way Albertus should be number 12.....
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 08, 2012, 04:50:53 pm
I'm surprised they were placed THAT low, but it was no doubt due to a dreadful SOS: .435.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 08, 2012, 06:18:55 pm
The SOS is low; because conference is weak. But, what is the out of conference SOS?? A person cannot over look quality within a region...

1. Beat West Conn by 20 at home
2. Beat Becker by 9 on Road
3. Beat Trinity by 12 on Road
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 08, 2012, 06:31:51 pm
The SOS is low; because conference is weak. But, what is the out of conference SOS?? A person cannot over look quality within a region...

1. Beat West Conn by 20 at home
2. Beat Becker by 9 on Road
3. Beat Trinity by 12 on Road

The committee has not much leeway for 'subjectivity' and follows the published criteria.  I assume that the first rankings probably do not include 'results vs. ranked teams' since, at that point, no one is ranked.  If that is true, the ranking may rise next week because of those wins over (now) ranked teams.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 09, 2012, 10:16:01 am
Results vs. Regionally Ranked Opponents is NOT a factor for Week 1... because there are no ranked opponents to compare to until the first regionally rankings are out. From now on, those wins will be part of the conversation and AM could move up. And for the record, counting their conference opponents, AM's opponents record is 165-205... that is weak and we aren't even talking about the OOWP, yet.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 09, 2012, 12:30:32 pm
D-Mac;

I respect your basketball opinion because I know you watch a lot of games and are highly interested and involved in division 3 basketball.  I will not deny that Albertus' SOS is low and they have played a weaker scheduled because the conference is weak. However, anyone who has seen them play will know that they are much better than 12 in the region. If they win their next two games before next Wednesday; I'll be interested in seeing where they will be ranked.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 09, 2012, 04:39:51 pm

Standings as of 2/8/12

Albertus Magnus      15-0   22-1                              
Saint Joseph's (Me.)    11-4   15-6                              
Johnson & Wales (RI)   10-5   11-11                              
Emmanuel      9-6   10-12                           
Lasell         9-6   10-12                              
Anna Maria       8-7   10-12                              
Mount Ida      5-9   8-13                              
Suffolk         5-11   8-15                     
Norwich         4-11   5-16                           
Emerson         4-12   4-18                              
Rivier         2-11   4-16   

Albertus has clinched the 1 seed and home court through playoffs

top 8 teams make conference tournament; 3 round format (all games played at highest seed remaining) for those who didn't know. There is a fight for the last spot as Emerson, Norwich, and Suffolk are playing for the final spot. The winner gets Albertus.

St. Joe's needs two more wins to wrap up the 2 seed. They play Rivier Tonight and on Saturday.

Potential first round match-up with Anna Maria and JWU; could be very fun! Either team could win that match up and take out the second seeded Monks..                         
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: fritzdis on February 11, 2012, 01:48:34 am
Albertus' 4 worst games, from a SOS perspective, are games over which they have no scheduling control - the home games against the bottom 4 teams in the conference.  Without those 4 games, I think their SOS would rise from .435 to .481, while their WP would only drop from .952 to .941.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 12, 2012, 08:53:57 am
Albertus won 76-73 yesterday at Lasell. A tough game for Albertus; down as many as 16 in the second half; they use a 16-0 run to tie the game with a little over 8 minutes to play. Askew willed them to a victory as he scores 52. He is now only 81 points away from setting the school records for points.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 12, 2012, 02:13:00 pm
Askew had to pick up the scoring as Watson was out with a minor injury. Watson as most of you know is second on the team in scoring and avgs 20 point per game. He also shoots 47% from the 3 point arc. Injury is minor; he would have played if it was playoffs. However, since Albertus has wrapped up the 1st seed, he was held out of the action.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 15, 2012, 09:04:26 am
Albertus defeats JWU 87-73 in Providence. Marshon Brooks was at the game watching two of the best scorers in the GNAC conference. Lamonte Thomas had 39 points to lead JWU and Askew had 35 and 20 rebounds to lead the falcons. The game was close at the half; JWU had a 4 point lead. However, Albertus started the second half on a 10-1 run and streched their lead to 15 with 13 minutes to play in the second. Albertus forced 7 turnovers in that 7 minute stretch and dominated the glass. They had a total of 55 rebounds. Albertus remains undefeated in conference play and has won 18 in a row. They are now 23-1 on the year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 18, 2012, 06:41:42 pm
Albertus finishes the regular season at 24-1 and undefeated in the GNAC (18-0) with a 75-62 win over St. Joes on Saturday. The falcons were losing by 1 with 8 mins left in the game. Ray Askew, who finished with 22 points, had his worst game of the year. He committed his 4th foul at the 7:55 mark in the second half with Albertus holding a 54-53 lead. The supporting cast played excellent when he went to the bench. Keep in mind that Darius Watson was held out of today's action as he continues to rest for the post season while a minor injury. Askew returned with 3:22 mins remaining and Albertus leading 65-54. The falcons used the 11-1 run to put the game away; they were led by Lora who played excellent defense, had 4 rebounds and 5 points while Askew was on the bench. Great year by the falcons! I don't care how weak a conference is, it is hard to go 18-0..

The conference championship goes through New Haven....

Conference preview to follow.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 18, 2012, 07:35:56 pm
http://www.thegnac.com/championships/MBBALL2012-Tournament-Brack.jpg

Here is the link to the 2011-12 GNAC playoffs...

Albertus host 8th seeded Emerson.
Emerson played Albertus tough during the regular season in Boston. Albertus hung onto a 2 point win. However, in New Haven, Albertus won by 20. Emerson is on a roll and have a great coach. Will be tougher than normal for a 1 seed.

St. Joe's host 7th seeded Mt. Ida

JWU host 6th seeded Anna Maria
Anna Maria split with JWU in the regular season.. Look for an upset; Anna maria can run with JWU and have long defenders to guard Lamonte Thomas

Lasell host 5th seeded Emmanuel

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: FormerGNACplayer on February 20, 2012, 03:41:39 am
St. joes played well against Albertus! And then I remember that Albertus was missing 20 points in Watson! Lora played like a 6'8 player! Hard to stop. As Askew went unnoticed going into this year nationally, I think O'brien of st.joes is one heck of a talent! Might be the best complete basketball player in the GNAC, Askew is more athletic, Thomas shoots more Waston is really good, but O'brien shoots,posts, rebs, and dishes in the Princeton offense! That's tough
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 20, 2012, 02:53:53 pm
GNACplayer - You must know your basketball. I couldn't agree more! O'Brien can shoot from the outside and was able to get to the rim often. He missed a few open 3's that allowed Albertus to pull away at the end. But, he dishes, moves the ball to the open shooter, can rebound, and is money from the line... He is one of those players that scare you as a fan of the other team.

The playoffs will be interesting because I think Anna Maria creates match-up problems to both JWU and ST. Joes.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 20, 2012, 07:16:11 pm
Albertus moves up to 15 in the country.. They have a 24-1 record; they still are 10th in region.. but, they have a weak schedule right?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 21, 2012, 06:17:41 pm
GNAC awards 2012

Here is my personal opinion on the awards:

First Team
Askew - Albertus
Thomas - JWU
O'Brien - St. Joe's
Click - Anna Maria
Watson - Albertus

Second Team
Bertanza - Lasell
Pepdjonovic - Suffolk
Williams - Lasell
Robinson - Emmanuel
Jackson - Albertus

Player of the Year
Askew - Albertus

Rookie of the Year
Abrams - Emerson

Defensive Player of the Year
Pepdjonovic

Head Coach of the Year
Mitch Oliver - Albertus
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 21, 2012, 09:00:27 pm
Anna Maria beats JWU 64-63... Lamonte Thomas misses a running in the lane at the buzzer. The ball rimmed out as the buzzer sounded. Very good back and forth game. Anna Maria drained 2 FTs with 7 seconds left. The call was questionable; There was contact, however, the anna maria player left his feet and had no where to go with the ball and dipped his shoulder into the JWU player. JWU had taken the lead 20 seconds earlier on a free throw; but could not convert on the second attempt opening the door for Anna Maria to escape with the 1 point lead.

St. Joe's wins easy at home over Mt. Ida...

Albertus wins over Emerson at home

Lasell in a very good game, beats Emmanuel 80-73 at home.

Thursday games

#4 Lasell vs #1 Albertus in New Haven, CT
#6 Anna Maria vs #2 St. Joe's of Maine, Maine

Write up tomorrow on games.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 23, 2012, 01:34:01 pm

Anna Maria @ St. Joe's Maine
Anna Maria has swept the season series. They are long and that gives St. Joe's a problem. I think it will be closer than what many people looking at the records would think. However, St. Joe's is led by the most complete player in the conference, O'Brien. They are well coached. They don't hurt themselves, can shoot the 3 well, are always in the right position to rebound and defend, and hit their free throws. They are not a team that comes from behind well; so if they fall behind early, they could be in trouble. I expect St. Joe's and Anna Maria to be in a tight game with 5 minutes left. St. Joe's leaders will take over and they will win by 6-8 points.

Lasell @ Albertus
Lasell gave Albertus the biggest scare during the regular season (In conference). They had a 16 point lead with 14 minutes left to play. Albertus had one of the best games ever in their history from Askew (he had 52 points, 25 in the second half, and 18 in last 10 minutes). Lasell lives and dies by the three ball. They have one of the most talented forward in the league in Williams. He opens up his shooters. Lasell has to bury their 3's to win this game. Albertus is healhty and hungry. Coach Oliver understands that he cannot leave it to the committee to vote his team in. He will have his team ready to go. The game will be tight at the half, but look for Albertus to pull away in the second half; led by their defense (forcing turnovers and easy points). Albertus wins by 14.

St. Joe's and Albertus are the best two teams in the GNAC. It would only be fitting if they play for the right to go to the NCAA.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 23, 2012, 10:43:52 pm
Anna Maria did not agree with my last post.. As they shock the second seeded Monks of St. Joe's in Maine. Anthony Click hits a running lay-up with 2.3 seconds left to lift the AMCats to a 60-59 win. This game was back and forth. St. Joe's had the ball with 48 seconds left and forced up a bad shot with the shot clock running down. Anna Maria grabbed the rebound and called a time-out to with 14 seconds left to set-up the final play. St. Joe's had a foul to give and used it with 7 seconds left. The ball was inbounded to Click at the top of the key; he crossed over to his right and drove hard down the lane to hit the uncontested lay-up. St. Joe's did have a good look at a three; however, the shot was no good.  Anna Maria will play in the GNAC championship in its first year.

Albertus defeats Lasell 92-70. Lasell had a 26-22 lead with under 10 to play in the first half. But Albertus used a 14-0 run and a 14-3 run to end the half to put this game away. Albertus led by as many as 31 points in the second half. Ray Aksew became the all time leading scorer in Albertus history in the first half. He currently has 2244 points and will look to add to it on Saturday. There were a lot of fouls that slowed the game down early on. However, Albertus used their size and speed to create turnovers and fast break opportunities. Zach Dugas (Jr.) had a very good game. He finished with 20; as watson only played 17 minutes due to foul trouble.

Anna Maria will travel to New Haven to face the #1 seed Falcons at 1pm on Saturday. Anna Maria has won both of its previous playoff games by 1 point on the road. The AMCats fans travel well. They will probably have about 200 fans at the "Nest". This will be a sell-out and a very good game. Both teams are built similiar.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: FormerGNACplayer on February 23, 2012, 11:55:30 pm
Spot on pjunito! Great job! I don't think Albertus will lose on its home
Floor in the championship! Askew has wills his team to victory and the emergeance of Lora in the playoff put Albertus at a different Plato! But thats why the game is played on the court! 3 yrs ago a very talented team in Emerson was knocked off as 2 seed in the Gnac by Albertus by 20! Gnac games are so unpredictable
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Frank Rossi on February 24, 2012, 03:35:00 am
Anna Maria did not agree with my last post.. As they shock the second seeded Monks of St. Joe's in Maine. Anthony Click hits a running lay-up with 2.3 seconds left to lift the AMCats to a 60-59 win. This game was back and forth. St. Joe's had the ball with 48 seconds left and forced up a bad shot with the shot clock running down. Anna Maria grabbed the rebound and called a time-out to with 14 seconds left to set-up the final play. St. Joe's had a foul to give and used it with 7 seconds left. The ball was inbounded to Click at the top of the key; he crossed over to his right and drove hard down the lane to hit the uncontested lay-up. St. Joe's did have a good look at a three; however, the shot was no good.  Anna Maria will play in the GNAC championship in its first year.

Albertus defeats Lasell 92-70. Lasell had a 26-22 lead with under 10 to play in the first half. But Albertus used a 14-0 run and a 14-3 run to end the half to put this game away. Albertus led by as many as 31 points in the second half. Ray Aksew became the all time leading scorer in Albertus history in the first half. He currently has 2244 points and will look to add to it on Saturday. There were a lot of fouls that slowed the game down early on. However, Albertus used their size and speed to create turnovers and fast break opportunities. Zach Dugas (Jr.) had a very good game. He finished with 20; as watson only played 17 minutes due to foul trouble.

Anna Maria will travel to New Haven to face the #1 seed Falcons at 1pm on Saturday. Anna Maria has won both of its previous playoff games by 1 point on the road. The AMCats fans travel well. They will probably have about 200 fans at the "Nest". This will be a sell-out and a very good game. Both teams are built similiar.

We'll be videocasting the game Saturday afternoon (1pm EST Tip/12:45pm EST Pregame) on D3hoops.com via Ustream.TV.  Stay tuned for links and details.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: albertusalum on February 24, 2012, 09:41:58 am
Albertus really is on a whole new level right now and i think they can have a legitimate shot at making a run in the tourny with a win on Saturday. A huge key i have seen is Lora. When he plays like he has been the team seems to click much better. If he doesnt let his emotions get the best of him, he will continue to be dominant inside and not pick of stupid fouls. As for Ray, he was double and tripled team last night on many occasions and was finding passes to open teammates for great looks. They even ran a box and 1 at one point but guarded Ray with a much undersized player who barely stood up to Rays waist. I havent seen Anna Maria play yet this season but im sure they wont go down without a fighting chance. Albertus is simply bullying teams at this pont. GO FALCONS!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Hugenerd on February 24, 2012, 05:05:50 pm
Albertus really is on a whole new level right now and i think they can have a legitimate shot at making a run in the tourny with a win on Saturday. A huge key i have seen is Lora. When he plays like he has been the team seems to click much better. If he doesnt let his emotions get the best of him, he will continue to be dominant inside and not pick of stupid fouls. As for Ray, he was double and tripled team last night on many occasions and was finding passes to open teammates for great looks. They even ran a box and 1 at one point but guarded Ray with a much undersized player who barely stood up to Rays waist. I havent seen Anna Maria play yet this season but im sure they wont go down without a fighting chance. Albertus is simply bullying teams at this pont. GO FALCONS!

Seems like Lora's development isn't quite what you'd expect from a former D1 commitment (Central Conn St, if I remember correctly).  From people that have seen him, is he finally starting to come along, or is he still a bit of a disappointment?  Looking at some boxscores, it appears he has been pretty inconsistent and prone to foul trouble.  However, based on how he was rated coming out of high school, he must have tremendous upside.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 24, 2012, 06:17:12 pm
Nerd, Lora has been a bit of a disappointment. He is the only recruit who has shrunk from 7 ft to 6'8 in three years. (Inside joke, for any Albertus followers). Lora was out of shape and hurt in his freshmen year (his best game was agaisnt Yale's Center Mangano); he scored 11 and 2 blocks of Mangano while holding him to 7 points and keeping him away from the paint.  Lora also played very well in the first round tournament game against William Patterson; he was solid defensively. Last year, he ws suspended along with 3 other members of the team and did not finish the season with the team. (That may have cost Albertus a return trip to the NCAA; Ray Askew didn't play in the GNAC semi-final either). However, since January, Lora has been playing the best basketball in his college career. He has also become a great team player. He understands that this isn't his team, it's Askew. Lora is in the best shape of his career. He is also playing amazing defense. He is blocking shots, rebounding, and more importantly altering shots. He is capable of scoring 20, but doesn't need to (Askew and Watson can do that). He is asked to guard the big man, rebound, and stop pentration. He has been doing that.  I think next year, you will see him become a much better offensive presence..... as long as he comes back in shape and ready to work.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on February 25, 2012, 01:49:09 pm
Looks like Albertus won't have to worry about whether their in the field or not come Monday afternoon.  Up 25 and not even at halftime.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 25, 2012, 05:14:29 pm
Albertus Men’s basketball team wins their 2nd GNAC championship in 3 years. The Falcons completed an undefeated conference season by beating the AMCats of Anna Maria on Saturday by a 88-54 margin. Albertus came out on fire; hitting their first 6 shots, including 2 three’s by Darius Watson. Anna Maria stayed in the game during the opening minutes by out hustling Albertus to loose balls and on the offensive glass. But, Albertus’ speed and athletic ability took over, highlight by a few dunks by Ray Askew. Albertus led 25-10 and finish the first half on a 29-15 run to lead 54-25 at the half.  Albertus then went on a 14-4 run to start the second half and led by as many as 40 in the second half. Coach Oliver emptied his bench at the 9 minute mark; bringing seniors Matt Maya and Ray Askew back into the game at the 3 minute mark; so that they can get one last standing ovation before the home crowd. Albertus now will wait to see who they will play in the opening round of the NCAA… Selection show will take place on Monday. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 25, 2012, 06:56:53 pm
Albertus Men’s basketball team wins their 2nd GNAC championship in 3 years. The Falcons completed an undefeated conference season by beating the AMCats of Anna Maria on Saturday by a 88-54 margin. Albertus came out on fire; hitting their first 6 shots, including 2 three’s by Darius Watson. Anna Maria stayed in the game during the opening minutes by out hustling Albertus to loose balls and on the offensive glass. But, Albertus’ speed and athletic ability took over, highlight by a few dunks by Ray Askew. Albertus led 25-10 and finish the first half on a 29-15 run to lead 54-25 at the half.  Albertus then went on a 14-4 run to start the second half and led by as many as 40 in the second half. Coach Oliver emptied his bench at the 9 minute mark; bringing seniors Matt Maya and Ray Askew back into the game at the 3 minute mark; so that they can get one last standing ovation before the home crowd. Albertus now will wait to see who they will play in the opening round of the NCAA… Selection show will take place on Monday.

Just for future reference its the AMCATs.  The mascot is an acronym for Anna Maria College Athletic Teams.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 25, 2012, 07:18:26 pm
Great job by d3hoops today at the Nest... Thanks for not giving me a mic.... lol..

Hoops, thanks. I had no idea. Thanks!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 27, 2012, 03:24:44 pm
Albertus travels to Vermont and will play St. joseph of Long Island in the first round.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: albertusalum on February 28, 2012, 08:03:10 am
Quick question. How does Albertus jump down a spot on the top 25 if they just won the conference?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 28, 2012, 08:53:23 am
Good question.. The SOS is really bad. So, because they beat three teams (none of whom has a winning record) they didn't receive as many points. The teams that jumped Albertus played teams with better winning percentage, so they received more points. 

Albertus can prove themselves in the tournament. St. Joe scares me because they are a veternan team who has won 48 games the last two years. They shoot the three very well. And, they are going want to prove they belong. If Albertus, gets past this team.  They will not be scared of Midd. They are too naiive to look at the front of the jersey; they will just come out play.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 28, 2012, 01:21:30 pm
The GNAC awards have been released...

Askew wins POY and DPOY
Oliver wins Coach of the Year.

Full information found here:  http://www.albertusfalcons.com/sports/mbkb/2011-12/files/Mens_Basketball_2012.pdf
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: WPI89 on February 28, 2012, 03:43:29 pm
Hey it was announced this afternoon that Emerson was coming over to the NEWMAC - any comments from anyone who knows them?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 28, 2012, 03:59:02 pm
Hey WPI,

Emerson got a lot better as the year closed. They were out of the playoffs when February began and won some big games. They also gave Albertus' it's closest game in the conference in Boston. They are well coached (Jim O'Brien, former Ohio State coach) and ROY on their team. Kell-Abrams is a good shooter (only 5'3 or so), so he will have trouble with bigger guards. But, he is a good player. O'Brien will recruit well and he is a heck of a coach. They should be a average team next year, but will get better if O'brien stays
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: WPI89 on February 28, 2012, 04:04:19 pm
Thanks - I commented on the NEWMAC site - can't believe O'Brien is coaching Emerson!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 28, 2012, 05:57:50 pm
Crazy isn't it?????  Hey, good luck to WPI.  Wish they had an opportunity to play in the national tournament. Hope the seniors on the team can leave with a championship!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on March 02, 2012, 12:21:09 pm
Albertus meets St. Joe (LI) in first round of NCAA tonight at 5:30 in Middlebury, VT. Albertus is making its first appearance to the tournament since 2010; the year they pulled off an amazing upset on a last second half court heave to beat William Patterson by 2 points. St. joe's from what I have seen has not been to the tournament recently. St Joe's is a scary team; they are led by 7 seniors, play small, shoot the three well and can score. They also want to show everyone they belong as many people feel like they should not have made the tournament. Albertus remembers the feeling of 2010; many of the players didn't know what to expect. Many were just happy to be there. this year's team believes it can make a deep run in this tournament. They are led by Ray Askew, a member of that 2010 team, and one of the best players in the region. He has played with a sense of urgency all year and has led his team to a 27-1 record. This should be an entertaining game and I think that it will be close at the half, but Albertus pulls away in the second half.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: falcons2010 on March 02, 2012, 01:23:06 pm
best player in the region? How bout nation?lol
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: albertusalum on March 02, 2012, 03:03:32 pm
I thought Ray deserved first team all northeast region. Lamonte Thomas is a great player but i probably would have swapped those two on the list. I guess im a little bit bias with Albertus in general having played there, but i cant imagine there being too many more players in the country more dominating then Ray. I just hope Albertus can make some noise in the tourney. Didnt really seem like Albertus got the best break in the tourney either. getting past the first game puts them up against Middlebury at home in the second correct?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on March 02, 2012, 03:20:03 pm
If ALbertus wins and Midd wins, they will play tomorrow night at 7 at Midd.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: smorris12 on March 02, 2012, 07:22:45 pm
Jackson hit a GREAT runner to put em up 3, then they played great defense, GREAT win, scary but GREAT!! They needed a TIGHT game, not THAT tight though!!   GREAT game by St Joes!!   AMC moves on, they played GREAT Defense on teh final possesion, forced an air ball!!   wow, very exciting!! I am excited now to watch the Middlebury game!! GO FALCONS!!!!!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on March 02, 2012, 07:26:18 pm
Good win by the falcons... St. Joe's played great. Give them credit. Albertus can't have 21 turnovers tomorrow if they want to win. Albertus advances 87-84; watson and askew with 27 to lead the way.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: smorris12 on March 02, 2012, 07:33:06 pm
the press bothered them, need to keep the ball away from the sidelines which is easier said then done, any win is a good win in this tournament!!    st joe's is quicker than middlebury, middlebury still needs to win, i am excited for tomorrow no matter who they play!!   great game!!    askew, actually everyone played great on offense, defense could use a shot in teh arm, they played GREAT defense on the last possesion, really great, forced an air ball, really guarded the 3 point line once it was clear that was the route St joe's was going!!   
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on March 02, 2012, 09:59:55 pm
Albertus plays Midd tomorrow night at 7pm.  Respect game for Albertus, do they belong?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: trixiep on March 03, 2012, 07:35:37 am
Albertus plays Midd tomorrow night at 7pm.  Respect game for Albertus, do they belong?
The players most definitely belong.  The Coaches behavior was an embarrassment last night. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: smorris12 on March 03, 2012, 07:46:29 am
Coach?   Guys, alot of Oliver bashing, there were some bad calls, the flagrant 1 was a JOKE!! The elbow was nowhere NEAR intentional.  I just worry he acts so bad he affects the kids, otherwise, it is an act, come on, be smart, he won't be as bad tonight as he knows he will need his players 100% focused to win this game, they can win tonight, they are faster, middlebury looks solid on defense and they play a strong offense, AMC will need to play better D tonight.   they played great D whenit counted last night.  He is using the OLD  "let me worry about the ref" line I bet, telling the kids to focus on the game!!    good luck AMC!!   and I do NOT condone swearing if indeed that was the case but you work hard to get to where you are and you don't want a couple of bad calls bringing down your season.   i think AMC creates SERIOUS athlectic matchup problems for Midd, I really do!!       
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: falcons2010 on March 03, 2012, 10:07:16 am
Do they belong? I don't think there's any doubt. They played there C minus game last night.sloppy, 21 turnovers, 3 technicals, and they still beat a good quick st joes team. Askew n Watson might be the best 1 2 punch in the nation. As far as the coach, that's who he is, not an ounce of it is an act. He's a competitor. But he needs to be smarter. He's taken this program from averaging 3 wins with a roster if 7, to a natl contender in 5 yrs, with 14 players. So he knows what he's doing
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: trixiep on March 03, 2012, 10:32:45 am
Do they belong? I don't think there's any doubt. They played there C minus game last night.sloppy, 21 turnovers, 3 technicals, and they still beat a good quick st joes team. Askew n Watson might be the best 1 2 punch in the nation. As far as the coach, that's who he is, not an ounce of it is an act. He's a competitor. But he needs to be smarter. He's taken this program from averaging 3 wins with a roster if 7, to a natl contender in 5 yrs, with 14 players. So he knows what he's doing

Not debating at all that AM is an excellent team that could go far in the tourney, and that the Coach knows what he is doing.  I bring my kids to the games and had to move them away from the AM bench because of his abhorrent language and behavior. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: falcons2010 on March 03, 2012, 11:40:59 am
Yes I hear you. Unfortunately I guess it comes with the territory of college and professional sports. Enjoy a good game tonight though!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: amh63 on March 03, 2012, 11:54:55 am
smorris12.....as explained to us on the NESCAC board.... the flagrant foul call has to be made whenever an elbow is near someone's head.  This is to protect players from possible injuries.  Tend to be called when a player gets a rebound and holds his elbows high and swings them as he turns around ...to clear space and/or looks for his team mates.  If the elbow is near someones head area...you get a foul called....if the refs. follow the rules.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Bucket on March 03, 2012, 01:35:06 pm
Amh63 is correct. If Arshad's elbow had been intentional, it would have been a flagrant 2 and an automatic ejection. Simply by swinging an elbow and connecting with an opponent's head, even if inadvertent, warrents a flagrant 1.

The call was correct.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: trixiep on March 03, 2012, 01:48:11 pm
Yes I hear you. Unfortunately I guess it comes with the territory of college and professional sports. Enjoy a good game tonight though!
Much appreciated, thanks falcons2010.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: falcons2010 on March 03, 2012, 05:49:27 pm
Absolutely!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on March 03, 2012, 06:20:25 pm
Falcons here we go baby... They have the talent. Can they execute enough?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on March 03, 2012, 09:00:35 pm
Albertus season comes to an end as they lose 89-73 tonight in VT to Middlebury. Albertus started the game on a 7-0 run. However, were out classed the rest of the way. Albertus was down 12 at the half and Midd never looked back. They had 3 turnovers in the second half; Albertus lives off fast break points and pushing the tempo. Midd played their game, they moved the ball well and beat the falcons up and down the court. Great job by the falcons this season - 28-2 and a win in the tournament is a great accomplishment. Ray had an amazing career and he will be missed.... 

There is one good thing that comes from this lost. Is that Coach Oliver knows that he still has missing pieces to contend at the national level. Look for him to continue to recruit and develop his young players and be back next year. 

Remember Albertus brings back 4 out of their 5 starters; including an electric player in Watson. Along with 4 key role players. If Albertus can bring in a few players who can add depth to the front court, I think they will be in the tournament again next year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on March 16, 2012, 01:36:18 pm
Ray Askew of Albertus named a 3rd team all-american: http://wcsu.edu/sports/MBasketball/NewsStories/mbBrooksNABCAllAmerican031512.html
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: All-around on May 17, 2012, 06:25:48 pm
Not sure what affect this has...

http://www.emerson.edu/news-events/emerson-college-today/parnell-steps-down-director-athletics
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 23, 2012, 11:10:17 pm
The athletic director reports to the vice president of IT? Really?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on July 14, 2012, 08:28:26 pm

So maybe I'm slow on the uptake, but I just now realized Rob Hennigan, who I saw rip ENC a new one, single-handedly - in a community center in Roxbury with two rows of bleachers, is the new GM of the Orlando Magic.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on November 19, 2012, 11:49:36 am
What's up GNACers? Albertus 2010 grad who is a big follower of the basketball team. Long time lurker who is looking to get more involved in the discussion this year!

Just a little light on Albertus (and I'll throw this in the GNAC thread too), despite the loss of Ray they should be just fine. While I haven't been around the school as much this fall (I played soccer there, was there a lot last year but not as much this year), my best guess would be that Spencer Smith would slide right into Ray's 4 spot. Tenacious worker who's in there to bang on the boards and play defense.

As far as their incoming class, it's super talented. 2 All-State, state champions from CT join the squad in 6'5 swingman Kenny Armstead and point guard James Jennings. From what I saw on the web, Jennings was actually listed as MSG Varsity's CT Player of the Year and was supposed to go to Southern CT (DII) but somehow ended up at Albertus. Two kids from NJ join the team as well, Marc Wilson and Rodney Wilson. Not sure if they're related because they went to different high schools according to the roster. Rodney Wilson was listed at #94 on MSGV's top 100 in NJ as a junior, but can't find anything about him as a senior. The Falcons also add 6'8 Ebrahim Jallow who has a high ceiling but is quite raw.

They should run away with the GNAC, but one thing worries me - Darius Watson becoming the go-to-guy. Obviously Ray was going to get his and Watson was still a 20 ppg guy. I'm just hoping he doesn't become to full of himself and take everyone else out of the game. With Oliver coaching and such solid guard play from Jackson and Dugas I don't think it will happen, but I've seem him have his negative moments. Should be fun to watch again though!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on November 21, 2012, 09:23:57 am
The opener for AMC was a bit strange, and without being there at the game it's tough to know what's going on with the team. Zach Dugas only played 2 minutes, and Arshad Jackson and Spencer Smith didn't even play. 7express said 2 guys were in street clothes so maybe it was them. They started a freshman (James Jennings) and the other big-time freshman Kenny Armstead got 12 minutes (and he took 10 shots!). Between Jennings and Armstead they went 5-24. Surprised they were allowed to shoot so much, especially Armstead. They must be better than I imagine, or it will all drastically change once the aforementioned players get back in rotation.

I'm not sure about height but based on what 7express said, you would think AMC should have outrebounded this team and they didn't. While AMC was never really a great defensive team, it seems as though the loss of Ray will be felt most on the interior D and on the boards. Hopefully they can get that corrected or they'll be out in the 1st or 2nd round of the NCAAs again. FT% needs to be better too. 66% won't cut it in big time games. They shot 15 more FTs than Western and only won by 6.

7express said they looked very disinterested and more worried about the highlights rather than actually winning the game. As I stated in the LEC topic, I hope this team isn't like the 10-11 team where they figure they can just turn it up come GNAC tourney time. That season, for whatever reason Ray doesn't play in the semi's and they lost. They should run away with the league but in a one-and-done scenario anything can happen.

Western had already played 2 games, one against a top 10 team and this was their home opener. I think they can be happy with the result. I just really want to see what happens with Dugas, Jackson, and Smith going forward and how the rotation will work once roles are solidified.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on November 23, 2012, 11:25:33 pm
Hey Dave, Welcome to the boards!

7express was right on with his post. Two horrible technical calls gave Albertus control of the game. The first was an over reaction call by the official. He heard a Western guy say something but it was no worst than what the Albertus guys said after a call. The second one, should have either been a double foul or nothing. It was just a strange technical.

As far as the rest of the game. Dugas and Smith are both hurt and Jackson will be available next week. 3 very key guys and I think this allowed the flow of the game to become out of wack. Albertus was more talented, however, I think we saw some youth from the team (poor decision making) and also it was Albertus's first game. They are still feeling each other out. Jennings is a stud; however, took too many shots and a lot of them were bad shots. For over 10 mins, they didn't hit a field goal. Very bad offense, no movement, and poor shot selections. I chalk this up to the first game and not having their two veternan guards. I don't think they were disinterested, simply think they took bad shots and made bad decisions. What we forget is that Jennings and Kenny A were able to make a lot of plays in high school, forcing the ball and making difficult shots. You can't do that in College and they will learn that. West Conn dominated the glass, but Albertus had a lot of block shots and contested shots. They need to be better at boxing out. I think once Smith gets back; we see better team defense and rebounding. Key moment of the game, Watson took over with about 3 mins left; hit a nice running lay-up, drilled a 14 footer, and hit his free throws. This kid can score and take over. He will have a very good year.

And Dave, don't forget; Jimmy, Dugas, and Lora were all suspended during the 10-11 season and didn't play in the semis. So, no Ray, Lora, or Dugas, that's three starters and the 6th man, not playing.. This team is very deep and athletic.

I think they are one year away from competing with the big boys
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on November 24, 2012, 12:30:26 am
I appreciate the insight very much! Like I said, I wasnt there at the western game, or during that run in 10-11. Based on their record during the regular season (granted the GNAC was better as a whole) it seemed like they really weren't giving their best effort knowing that come GNAC tourney time they could just turn it on.

Given your insight, I've seen Mitch pull people for stupid/dumb decisions on offense so I'm assuming the lack of depth/injuries attributed to Jennings and Armstead taking so many shots (and not making them). From what 7express told me, Jennings looks like a STUD and I know he was supposed to go to Southern. If he continues to develop AMC will be good for the next 4 years.

Regardless...as much as I've seen (and partied :P) with the Albertus team, they shouldn't be that close with a team as inferior as Western is. As we've alluded to, once everyone is healthy the team will be a whole 'nother story and that's what I'm waiting for...

Do you have any recent info on the Wilson's from Jersey? Couldn't find anything recent on them, especially Rodney who was #94 on the MSG Varsity Top 100 as a junior.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on November 24, 2012, 12:33:18 am
Basically like I said, being it our first game, on the road, playing against a decent DIII squad (not a GNAC team) who already played against a top 10 team, the result is satisfactory :)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on November 24, 2012, 02:54:09 am
Interesting to pay attention to the Wesleyan AMC game Sunday.  Wesleyan coming off a loss at home to NESCAC and little 3 rival Williams.  As long as you can stay in front of Sha Brown of Wesleyan and control the other's your in good shape to win and I think AMC will pull that off by about 10 or so.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on November 24, 2012, 03:00:20 am
I appreciate the insight very much! Like I said, I wasnt there at the western game, or during that run in 10-11. Based on their record during the regular season (granted the GNAC was better as a whole) it seemed like they really weren't giving their best effort knowing that come GNAC tourney time they could just turn it on.

Given your insight, I've seen Mitch pull people for stupid/dumb decisions on offense so I'm assuming the lack of depth/injuries attributed to Jennings and Armstead taking so many shots (and not making them). From what 7express told me, Jennings looks like a STUD and I know he was supposed to go to Southern. If he continues to develop AMC will be good for the next 4 years.

Regardless...as much as I've seen (and partied :P) with the Albertus team, they shouldn't be that close with a team as inferior as Western is. As we've alluded to, once everyone is healthy the team will be a whole 'nother story and that's what I'm waiting for...

Do you have any recent info on the Wilson's from Jersey? Couldn't find anything recent on them, especially Rodney who was #94 on the MSG Varsity Top 100 as a junior.

Also, its too bad we can't a replay of this game @ AMC in January or February.  This Western team is extremely young & inexpierenced.  Only 4 players (out of 15) were on the team that finished last season, 0 starters, and only 1 guy back that played significant minutes.  Russ Payton played in 10/11 (sat out last year due to academics I believe) and LeRoy Mayers last played in 09/10 (sat out the last 2 years).  Once this Western team starts to gel and get used to playing together they can be a very dangerous club.  I still have them finishing 3rd in the LEC.  I'd like to see another matchup between these 2 this year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on November 25, 2012, 03:02:18 pm
No stats are up yet but I just checked from work and AMC defeated Wesleyan 82-73.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on November 25, 2012, 07:05:37 pm
I appreciate the insight very much! Like I said, I wasnt there at the western game, or during that run in 10-11. Based on their record during the regular season (granted the GNAC was better as a whole) it seemed like they really weren't giving their best effort knowing that come GNAC tourney time they could just turn it on.

Given your insight, I've seen Mitch pull people for stupid/dumb decisions on offense so I'm assuming the lack of depth/injuries attributed to Jennings and Armstead taking so many shots (and not making them). From what 7express told me, Jennings looks like a STUD and I know he was supposed to go to Southern. If he continues to develop AMC will be good for the next 4 years.

Regardless...as much as I've seen (and partied :P) with the Albertus team, they shouldn't be that close with a team as inferior as Western is. As we've alluded to, once everyone is healthy the team will be a whole 'nother story and that's what I'm waiting for...

Do you have any recent info on the Wilson's from Jersey? Couldn't find anything recent on them, especially Rodney who was #94 on the MSG Varsity Top 100 as a junior.

Also, its too bad we can't a replay of this game @ AMC in January or February.  This Western team is extremely young & inexpierenced.  Only 4 players (out of 15) were on the team that finished last season, 0 starters, and only 1 guy back that played significant minutes.  Russ Payton played in 10/11 (sat out last year due to academics I believe) and LeRoy Mayers last played in 09/10 (sat out the last 2 years).  Once this Western team starts to gel and get used to playing together they can be a very dangerous club.  I still have them finishing 3rd in the LEC.  I'd like to see another matchup between these 2 this year.

7, what's up man. I should have told you I was going to the West Conn game. West Conn is better than what they showed on Tuesday. They have some big bodies and a very good guard. The game had a lot of fouls (refs called it tight), this gave Albertus an advantage. Seems as if Albertus might be a bit deeper. The bench for West Conn didn't have the same offensive flow as the starters. This allowed for easy points in my opinion. I think West Conn will get better as the year continues and would not like to seem them again.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on November 25, 2012, 07:15:49 pm
Good day for the GNAC. St Joe's and Albertus beat tough teams and Norwich wins as well.

Albertus 82, #23 Wesleyan 73

St. Joe's 70, Southern Me 56

Norwich 71, Johnson St. 65
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2012, 11:55:07 pm
New D3hoops Top 25 poll is out and Albertus Magnus breaks into the rankings as they are listed at #23 with 108 points. Here's the link:

    http://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2012-13/week1     
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: FormerGNACplayer on November 28, 2012, 12:59:02 am
Albertus beats a surprisingly tough Mitchell team tonight. Lora was out but the sophomore Larsen stepped up with a double double, Jennings hit tough shots, Jackson is back and Watson scores effortlessly. Albertus will be fine this year, won’t be a repeat of 10-11 season. That yr, Watson was a freshmen and not even half of what he is now and last yr, St.Juste and Reaves (starting guards) both missed games due to injuries during the season, Transfers Dugas, Massey(Becker) and Cagle came in mid-year, Askew, Jackson, Lora, Dugas, Eco, and Sweeney all missed the game at JWU in the playoffs, not to mention that Thomas from JWU was lights out that season, especially at home. 10-11 team was never established. Still early, Albertus now looks to be settled and if Jennings and Jackson can limit TO’s and bad shots, they will be playing for the title game. Larsen and Smith are solid. Need Lora to be 6’8, play big as he did last year in the GNAC playoffs. Any news on St.Joes? New players? Anybody got a top 5 in the GNAC? St.Joes, Norwich, Albertus have been solid for years, any reason they don’t get respect in the Northeast?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on November 28, 2012, 08:05:49 pm
Darius Watson named ECAC New England Player of the Week!

http://ecacsports.com/sports/winter/mbkb/potw/General/2012-2013/November_27-_2012
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on December 01, 2012, 10:03:15 pm
Tough game for Albertus today; but they pulled out the victory. Lasell has played Albertus tough last year. they play a princeton style offense, lots of back-cuts, and shooting the three. Today, they were hitting their threes, but Watson took over the game with 10 mins left. jennings and Kenny A had nice 2nd half performances as well.

Albertus remains unbeaten, but really need to play better if they want to win the conference.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on December 05, 2012, 09:34:57 am
Hey pjunito!

Was just curious if you saw the AMC Trinity game? If you did, I was wondering if you could recap it from a fans point of view. Looks like Jennings had another good game. Any idea why Chi didn't play? Thanks!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on December 06, 2012, 08:08:02 am
Hey lil Dave. I saw some of the game online. Jennings had another great game, as did Watson. Albertus was in control the whole game. Up 15 at once in 2nd half it was cut down to 5 at one point. Albertus played great D that transitioned into buckets, something they need to do more of. Their transition offense is as quick as they come. This team next yr will be poised for an NCAA run. They seem to play to the level of competition(Wesleyan, Lasell) which is dangerous. The lasell game they really seemed as if they thought they'd just turn it on at any point. That will lose you games. When Lora is back(seperated shoulder in Mitchell game) their fire might turn up a notch as he is their leader. I don't see Albertus going 27-1 like last yr, but still see the being very very solid
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on December 06, 2012, 09:47:52 am
Thanks for the insight!

It looks like I'm not the only one who fears this AMC team lulling in and out of some games. Like I stressed after the Western game, after being so dominant recently they can't expect to walk on the court and beat teams. They have the talent to do so, but that talent needs to be supplemented with effort and hard work when the shots aren't falling or the calls are going against them. I'm hoping the close Lasell game gives them a wake up call.

Haven't been able to catch much of the action but how's Lemar Larsen playing? He went to my high school (though 4 years behind me) and I was ecstatic when I saw him going to AMC. He played very sparingly and I was hoping it didn't waiver his confidence and make him want to look elsewhere. I'm pumped he has stuck it out and is now starting because he has that kind of ability. He hasn't scored in the last 2 games (if I recall) but he seems to be filling the void on the boards with Ray's absence.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on December 06, 2012, 03:22:49 pm
Yes I def see this team falling to sleep in some games. To their credit they found it in the lasell game. But they should of beaten that lasell team by 20. The kid Jennings can flat out play. He sparked them in that win. Larsen played well the first couple games. The last two has not been too much of a factor. But from what I saw at the western game he's athletic, long, and jumps out if the gym. Great defensively. Just two down games but he should be fine. Seems to be there main PF
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on December 06, 2012, 08:47:33 pm
Albertus beats mt Ida by 7. Wasn't at the game but from what I understand they were up double digits the entire second half, including being up 16 with 2 mins left before Oliver emptied his bench and mt Ida made it respectable. But don't let the score fool you
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on December 08, 2012, 10:43:19 pm
Hey Dave and Bballfan,

I agree with what you are saying; the team is playing inconsistent. I think they are still trying to find themselves. There are some new faces and guys who have to step up. I won't be concerned with the overall records; I think that this team will come together in February. They have some hungry seniors (Lora and Jimmy E are playing very well), they have some strong defenders (Smith and Saunders), and the ability to play mutilple guards (Jennings, Dugas, Jackson). I think this will prove that they are too much for the GNAC. And Watson is the driving force. He looks good so far.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on December 18, 2012, 04:15:08 pm
Albertus vs. Division I Yale tonight. For the Falcons sake, I hope a loss doesn't deter their rank in the top 25, as Yale would be expected to win any game against a D3 opponent. Albertus will come out firing like they did against Yale 2 years ago I'm sure, in which they trailed at 4 after 1 half. Should be fun one to watch online for myself. Hope these voters do the research if Amc happens to lose
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on December 18, 2012, 07:13:55 pm
19-15 Yale 12 min left in half...........Albertus is quicker just not bigger. Watson with 8 points early and looking to make statement
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on December 18, 2012, 07:28:58 pm
Albertus playing rather good D, shots just aren't falling like they usually do. Will credit Yale for that, however a couple threes were in and out or It'd be closer. 27-18 Yale first half
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on December 18, 2012, 07:35:39 pm
Yale in control 38-20. Game changed when it was 19-15 and Jennings went to bench with two fouls. Albertus starting 5 can hang but def not their bench
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on December 18, 2012, 08:54:22 pm
Yale dominates... big win over Albertus. 112-63. Yale was too fast, big, and deep for Albertus. Like I said in a different room; great experience for the guys on the team. All they need to do is take care of the conference and they will have a chance to prove themselves in the tournament.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 02, 2013, 07:07:10 pm
Key reserves, Kenny armstead and spencer smith flunk off team. Watson in street clothes for his flagrant foul vs Yale and will sit this one out against Worcester st
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 02, 2013, 10:08:11 pm
Albertus beats Worcester minus their best player not playing, Darius Watson
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: officer cadet on January 03, 2013, 10:07:59 am
Norwich trip to DC area.
Cadets face on Stevenson university today....one of toughest opponents in this season OOC game.
Mastangs clinch to Skidmore 90-79 in last game.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 03, 2013, 10:38:01 am
That's not saying much seeing as Stevenson is 6-4, and 1-4 in its new conference.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 04, 2013, 05:20:50 pm
Lol tellem Pat!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: officer cadet on January 05, 2013, 06:41:58 am
Stevenson tops Norwich 80-61.
Mastangs was bigger,tougher,athletically than Norwich.

Cadets will host StJoe in Saturday game.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 05, 2013, 07:12:33 pm
Most teams are bigger, tougher, and more athletic than the cadets
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 05, 2013, 11:47:46 pm
Albertus is 2-0 after the long break. Winning a close one at home without Watson and then pulling away from JWU in the second game. Albertus, once again, looks like the best team in the conference. However, they have some tough games coming up agaisnt an improved Suffolk club, St. Joe's of Maine, and a more talented Emerson team. Should be fun match-ups for falcon fans to watch. The lost of Armstead and Smith means that Albertus losses a lot of size and defense presence. They don't lose much scoring, but Smith and Armstead both defended well, rebounded well, and were fantastic in transition.

Let's see who steps up for Albertus. They have a few guys on the bench who can play. Also, interesting to see how Oliver mixes and matches with other teams. We may see a lot of 3 guard looks, with Watson at the four. A healthy Dugas will help a lot and Jimmy E has been on fired lately from the field. Lora is motivated, if he stays focused and healthy, he can be a difference maker. Lets see how the team improves and gells as they play into mid February.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 07, 2013, 09:16:20 pm
Dugas looks like a new player this semester
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 08, 2013, 08:45:27 pm
Dugas is playing a lot better... Albertus wins in Me (92-74 over the Monks of St. Joe's).

Watson was unreal, Larson is playing great. Jimmy E is stepping up. Lora and Jackson are very consistent and they keep the team grounded.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 10, 2013, 08:43:34 pm
Albertus cruising in game against rivier. Were up 26 in first half. Bench players playing in second half so Riv has made it look a lot closer than it actually is. Watson got hurt about 10 mins in, looks like a rolled ankle, early night for him, but Albertus still dominated. 31 in a row against GNAC opponents now. The GNAC has never seen a program like this in its history. And Albertus came from the bottom, 2-24 in 2005. Mitch Oliver is unreal. The guy is a young up and coming coach who possibly may be headed to bigger basketball programs(D1). I'm going to say last yrs team with askew and Watson, Lora,Jackson, and the rest of the gang is the best team in GNAC history. Hopefully Watson is back Saturday, I would hate to see their streak ended when their not at 100 percent, but injuries and Albertus themselves seems to be the only thing that can stop this dominant program at the moment
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 10, 2013, 09:04:20 pm
Great job by Mitch. He recruited local and got guys who were committed to the program. It is nice how he built the team and how he gets guys who fit his style of play. The team looks like they love playing for him and he is hard on them. Suffolk looks like a solid team, should be a great game next week at the Nest. Hopefully, Watson is 100% soon. Solid win by Albertus tonight. Keep it going!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 12, 2013, 09:33:12 pm
Albertus rolls again; they beat Emmanuel 97-90; Watson scored 5 points and fouled out. But, Albertus was too much for the Saints.

St. Joes's hangs on for one point win at Rivier 56-55

Norwich beats Mt. Ida 79-70

JWU continues its hot streak rolling past Emerson

Lasell gets its first GNAC win beating Suffolk 71-65. Lasell has been playing much better lately and Suffolk has been struggling
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 14, 2013, 10:04:51 pm
After a 3-0 week, Albertus remains in the 19th spot in this week's polls.

Albertus needs to stay focus and continue playing well and winning.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 16, 2013, 12:23:40 pm

No real surprises in the GNAC last night. The top teams are beginning to separate themselves. It looks like Albertus, Johnson and Wales, and Anna Maria are looking like the teams that have the best shot at winning the GNAC.  Still plenty of season left and St. Joe's is always a well coached team and Emerson will be tough this year as well.

Tue., Jan. 15    

Emmanuel 61    
Johnson & Wales (RI) 74    
Final   
      
Suffolk 76    
Albertus Magnus 95    
Final   
      
Norwich 59    
Emerson 68    
Final   
      
Mount Ida 50    
Saint Joseph's (Me.) 69    
Final   
      
Rivier 50    
Anna Maria 57    
Final   



Standings
Albertus Magnus   8-0
                                    
Johnson & Wales (RI) 7-1
                                    
Anna Maria 5-2
                                    
Emerson 5-2
                                    
Saint Joseph's (Me.) 5-3
                                    
Emmanuel 3-4
                                    
Suffolk 2-4
                                    
Rivier 2-5
                                    
Norwich 1-6
                                    
Lasell 1-6
                                    
Mount Ida 1-7
                                    
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 16, 2013, 02:25:04 pm
Funny how all the Emerson, Norwich, Suffolk, JW, Emmanuel posters don't post on this thread at all anymore lol. Albertus has taken over the GNAC, and this thread!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 17, 2013, 10:05:28 am
It makes the thread kind of boring... Would like to hear about what is happening at other schools. Players making a splash, recruitment, etc...

Albertus will be losing some key pieces this year.. let's hope that a new class of freshmen is ready to step in.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 19, 2013, 07:55:06 pm
Albertus 91 Emerson 67.... Albertus was ready for the new look Emerson team. Albertus was too experience, forced a lot of turnovers and had good looks at the basket all day long. Albertus continues their impressive dominates in the GNAC....

Next up: A scary Anna Maria team. Albertus only plays the AMCats once during the regular season. They last faced each other in the GNAC Championship game last February. Albertus ran away with it. AMCats has a lot of athletes and I think have this gamed circled, since the scheduled came out. Anna Maria just beat St. Joe's in Maine and will be ready.

Should be a very good game on Monday in Paxton.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 20, 2013, 08:10:15 am
Excited for the game Monday vs the AMCats. Hopefully I'll get a chance to catch some of it? Does Anna Maria provide a live feed?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 20, 2013, 08:48:56 pm
They didn't last year, so I am not sure. They have a live stats feature.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 21, 2013, 09:05:14 pm
Anna Maria takes it hard to Albertus and pulls off the upset. The game was tied with under 5 mins left and Anna Maria made lay up after lay up to stop the 35 game conference win streak by the falcons in GNAC play.

Give Anna Maria all the credit. The outrebounded the falcons by 20 including 18 offensive rebounds that led to 16 second chance points. I thought Anna Maria would give the Falcons the most trouble in the GNAC. However, I still believe Albertus won't lose a home game. So, it is important for them to get the 1 seed. They still controll their own destiny.

What this means for:

Albertus - they will drop out of top 25 and probably won't get back up there this year (even if they run the table). Because of the unbalance schedule they won't have an opportunity to avenge their lost during the regular season. They have St. Joe's at home and JWU on the road. Probably their two toughest games left. This lost could be a blessing.. Now, Coach Oliver can work these guys and they will need to work in practice to improve their weakness. No longer can their talent just get them by.

Anna Maria - After getting blown out of last year championship game, they now believe they can win the conference. They are on a roll, and they have beaten JWU and ST. Joes in last year playoff. They now believe they can beat anyone.

JWU - a golden opportunity to win the GNAC regular season. They have Albertus at home the final game of the year. They also have Anna Maria next saturday on the road.

The rest of the GNAC - Albertus is no longer invincible.. Teams have to attack them. Out work them on the glass and force them to beat you at the line and you have a shot.

Great end to the regular season comin up
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 22, 2013, 10:47:51 am
yeah Dave on Hoopsville just asked Mitch about continually getting outrebounded and it finally caught up to them.

Much like you, as long as they maintain the number 1 seed I think they'll be ok. The biggest thing I see from this (along with the inevitable permanent drop out of the top 25) is that if they do make the NCAA Tourney, they could be the team playing the first round host instead of the middle-neutral game like they did last year.

Hopefully they get it together!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: WPI89 on January 22, 2013, 11:03:56 am
Agree completely - I could almost see Magnus right now playing the Amherst/Williams/Middlebury winner at their place - that would be brutal.  The other thing that loss does is maybe take the safety net away?  They are no longer a lock for an at large if they slip up in the GNAC tourney.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 22, 2013, 11:48:35 am
Exactly my thought. I thought to last season and instead of playing St Joes of LI in Middlebury, they'll be the one playing Middlebury first.

I think with their recent success (2 first round wins in the past 3 years) that with a clean slate but a slip in the tourney they would have received consideration, but not now especially without a brand name like Ray Askew.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 22, 2013, 03:37:02 pm
WPI, I am enjoying the run your guys are putting together. Rooting hard for them. I couldn;t agree more, the reality is Albertus plays in a weak conference and has a poor SOS and Massey ranking. We will have to wait to see where they rank when regional rankings come out. But, it looks like they will need to win the conference to make the national tournament.

And yes, the odds of playing a tough first round opponent has increase. All they can do now is keep winning games and getting better.

Dave, how good was Askew!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 23, 2013, 04:34:27 pm
TOO GOOD! lol I remember seeing him as a freshman and thinking "How did this kid end up at Albertus?" At that point I had seen more entertaining, dunk-filled basketball games when I was in high school in Waterbury, and I was almost bored by the AMC games. As stated earlier in the thread though, I don't think any of this happens without Mitch. What he's done with the program is sensational!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 24, 2013, 09:46:31 am
I agree, Mitch is the key. by the way, Mitch was kicked out of the game vs Anna Maria with 12 mins left and up 2. If he is coaching down the entire game, I think Albertus might have won.

Askew grew 4 inches from senior year in hs to his freshmen year in College. He was a stud from day one. He was so good and smooth. He had a great career here. Watson is probably a better scoring at this point. Watson has a D1 body and is a beast ni the post. He is also shooting very well from three point land. He is hard to guard. If you remember Dave, Albertus had a 7-0 lead vs Middlebury in VT in the tourney last year. Watson picked up two early fouls and had to go to the bench. When he returned Middlebury was up 17.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 24, 2013, 10:13:05 am
I just remember that as quick as it was 7-0 AMC, even quicker it was 9-7 Middlebury and that was that haha
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 24, 2013, 12:14:04 pm
That was that!!  This year's team is not as good as last year... So, I am not sure what to expect if they make the tournament.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on February 01, 2013, 09:39:18 am
Albertus falls to Suffolk 92-91...did anyone see it?  What happened??
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on February 02, 2013, 12:46:08 pm
Crickets....very quiet board...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 02, 2013, 06:36:49 pm
GnacAlum,

Albertus played a solid offensive game; they just didn't play defensive well. Usually, they have a 5 minute stretch where they pull away because they create bad shot attempts and turnovers and get easy baskets in transition. This didn't happen at Suffolk. Suffolk killed them with the pick and roll. Albertus didn't have an answer for it and this cost Albertus the game. Albertus had ball with 16 seconds left down 1. Watson got the ball about 30 feet away from basket was doubled and turned the ball over and that was the game. He tried dribbling out of the double instead of passing. I don't blame him he was unstoppable up until that point, give them credit.

Albertus will have to fight for the GNAC championship this year. Teams are no longer afraid of Albertus and are excuting.

You're a ball player - tell me does a lost like this kill a team or make them stronger?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 02, 2013, 11:16:28 pm
Abertus bounces back with a good effort at Rivier. Anna Maria wins its 11 straight game; they haven't lost since Dec 6 at JWU. They are on a roll and hot. Last year, Anna Maria was very inconsistent, this year it looks like they have confidence and are winning easy.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on February 06, 2013, 10:35:18 am
Knew this board would be quiet with AMC being off until the 9th...

"Albertus will have to fight for the GNAC championship this year. Teams are no longer afraid of Albertus and are excuting."

Just reflecting on this compared to last years team and 2010 - I think a big key is that there is no number 2 that can shoulder the offensive load. In 2010, after Ray Walden or even Byron could take over for stretches and make teams pay for eyeing on Ray. Obviously last year when teams focused too much on Ray, Darius could drop 20 in a heartbeat. Darius has obviously moved into Ray's role offensively but there's no clear cut number 2. Arshad and Jennings seem to do ok for stretches (keeping in mind that Jennings is a freshman) but if Darius is off I can see the team struggling offensively.

Plus the team never really plays defense anyway. They just look to outscore haha
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 06, 2013, 11:01:25 am
Dave, I agree with you. There is no number 2 scorer; that hurts them in a big spot (i.e. at suffolk). But, this isn't the start of the season, this has been the case all year long. And Albertus did win a game without Watson playing. So, I don't think not having the number 2 scorer is the reason they have lost two GNAC games. I think teams aren't afraid. Most of these teams, looked at Albertus and knew they were losing. Not the case anymore.

And Albertus did play solid team defense. They create a lot of steals and force bad shoots (it's not Wisconsin defense), but it is affective. It allowed them to run and get easy points. They need to get back to that. Big game this weekend at home and next week in Providence to finish out the year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on February 06, 2013, 12:08:07 pm
Appreciate the insight! Now that I'm not on campus and 45 minutes away from any home game my opinions come off of box scores and recaps!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Jonny Utah on February 06, 2013, 12:25:10 pm
I know it isn't the GNAC, but I worked at the Newbury/Wheelock game last night.

Wheelock had only 8 players dressed for the game, but hung in their for about 35 minutes before losing by about 20.  Neither team has a home gym, and the game had to be played at Pine Manor College.

Either way, not a whole lot of talent or size on either team, but Newbury could run and drove the hoop pretty hard.  They also have a 6'7 300 pound big man who takes up a lot of space.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 07, 2013, 11:37:07 am
6'7 300 pounds... The kid should have signed his letter to play for Ole Miss yesterday like everyone else did.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 07, 2013, 11:43:45 am
The first Regional Rankings:

Northeast
 1 WPI 21-0 21-0
 2 Amherst 20-2 20-2
 3 Williams 18-2 20-2
 4 Middlebury 16-1 19-1
 5 Rhode Island College 18-3 18-3
 6 Brandeis 15-5 15-5
 7 MIT 15-4 16-4
 8 Curry 15-6 15-6
 9 Westfield State 15-4 17-4
 10 Springfield 15-7 15-7
 11 Eastern Connecticut 14-4 14-7
 12 Albertus Magnus 20-2 20-3

What this means is that Albertus nor Anna Maria will make the NCAA tournament without winning the conference. Too many teams ahead of them; so, win the conference and your in. Lose it and you go to ECAC.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on February 13, 2013, 12:28:40 pm
With all the hoopla going over on the NESCAC boards, Albertus went on the road and beat Coast Guard. Surprised to see their record is so poor. They're usually a decent squad and regardless the sport, CG is always a different team at home. Good to see the Falcons get the win despite the break with all the snow.

Was curious to what you think pjunito (or whoever else wants to chime in), in the latest top 25 AMC was the first team out - If they roll through the GNAC tournament and dispatch Anna Maria on the way, think there's ANY shot they could avoid the host team of a pod in the first round? If they win out I'd imagine they'd creep to 20ish right? Or does the loss to Suffolk pretty much cement them playing a host team regardless?

Obviously this depends heavily on who ultimately gets in, but what do you think?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on February 13, 2013, 02:31:36 pm
The losses to Suffolk and Anna Maria hurt them for 2 reasons....
1) Anna Maria will finish first and host the championship game (if they get there).
2) If Albertus wins in the first round (vs. Rivier), they could have a rematch with Suffolk (the #6 who will face #3 Emerson).
It should be interesting.....
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 13, 2013, 02:41:24 pm
Hey Dave, I don't think Albertus sees the top 25 again this year... They won 7 games in a row after the Yale lost and moved up one spot while all these teams around them were losing. Look at Boise State and Gonzaga, they never really move up when other teams have tougher schedules. Albertus doesn't have a great win and has a bad lost. This keeps them from moving up into top 25 in my opinion.

I agree with you GNAc, very interesting. Anna Maria can clinch first place with a win at home this week. They should beat Mt. Isdda easily.. Albertus clinches the two seed with a win.  Here is something that is interesting.. Would you rather play JWU/St. Joe's in second round or Suffolk/Emerson? I think Albertus matches up very well at home with Suffolk or Emerson; they beat Suffolk by 19 and Emerson by 24 at home this year. Anna Maria will have a tough test with JWU or St. Joes.

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 13, 2013, 04:19:45 pm
Albertus may be the first one out of the Top 25... but their point total is really low which means a lot of the voters have to buy in to put them in. There are too many other teams that could get votes to move AM back into the Top 25... and I agree that I don't think that will happen before the NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 13, 2013, 09:25:52 pm
D-mac, at this point in the year, the top 25 doesn't mean much, regional rankings are the key. Albertus is ranked 12 in the Northeast, which let's face it means they need to win their conference tournament. No way they get a at large bid.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 16, 2013, 08:34:20 pm
GNAC conference tournament set:

First round: Tuesday, Feb 19
Semi Finals: Thursday, Feb 21
Championship Game: Saturday, Feb 23

All games at higher seed

#1 Anna Maria host #8 Emmanuel
#2 Albertus Magnus host #7 Rivier
#3 Johnson and Wales host #6 Suffolk
#4 Emerson host #5 St. Joe's
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on February 16, 2013, 11:08:43 pm
GNAC conference tournament set:

First round: Tuesday, Feb 19
Semi Finals: Thursday, Feb 21
Championship Game: Saturday, Feb 23

All games at higher seed

#1 Anna Maria host #8 Emmanuel
#2 Albertus Magnus host #7 Rivier
#3 Johnson and Wales host #6 Suffolk
#4 Emerson host #5 St. Joe's

What happened to St. Joes this year??  Normally their near the top of the standings not going on the road in round 1.  Something in the water up there in that area??  A perennial LEC bottom dweller Southern Maine gets a first round home game and a perennial GNAC top team goes on the road for a first round game.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 17, 2013, 08:59:37 pm
7,

St. Joe's always played great defense and run a strong triangle offense. In the games they lost, they shot the ball awful from the perimeter. They lost a lot of road games, some to really bad teams, and are not the same team away from Maine. However, they will beat Emerson.

I think we will see JWU at Albertus and St. Joe's at Anna Maria on Thursday.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacAlum55 on February 18, 2013, 03:03:15 pm
My predictions...

Anna Maria beats Emmanuel
Albertus beats Rivier
Suffolk beats JWU
Emerson beats St. Joe's

This would set up pretty interesting 2nd round match-ups -

Emerson already beat Anna Maria earlier in the season and Suffolk beat Albertus by 1 a few weeks ago - pretty interesting games if it plays out this way!!

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on February 18, 2013, 03:29:43 pm
I'll take Anna Maria, Albertus, J&W & St. Joes tomorrow.

I say St. Joes beats Anna Maria, Albertus beats J&W in the semi's, then Albertus beats St. Joes in the finals.

Semifinal and final predictions subject to change based on how tomorrow plays out though.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 19, 2013, 01:30:08 pm
7,

you living in my head!!!! I agree with your predicitions..

I know everyone in new Haven wants to see Suffolk come to Albertus on Thursday.... They want to see Albertus avenge their regular season lost in Boston.. I know one guy who said he will sleep at the gym to get the best spot for that game. But, I don't see JWu losing at home. I think St. Joe's beats Emerson (Emerson too young to win this game, even at home). Albertus and Anna Maria should have little trouble with their opponents tonight.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 19, 2013, 09:54:04 pm
GNAC Quarterfinal results from Tuesday:

#1 Anna Maria 85, #8 Emmanual 76
#2 Albertus 84, #7 Rivier 65
#3 JWU 72, #6 Suffolk 71
#5 St. Joes 73 , #4 Emerson 68, OT

Anna Maria was tied late and finished on a run under 3 minutes left to win.

JWU was up 15 with 6 mins left, Suffolk tied it at 67 with 1:01 left, JWU hit some big shots and fouled up 3 with 8 seconds left.

St. Joes and Emerson played a good game, ugly to start but strong defense.

Albertus led the entire way, up 24 at one point in second half.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 21, 2013, 10:07:44 pm


GNAC SEMIFINAL ACTION – Thursday, February 21
#1 Anna Maria 75, #5 St. Joseph 63
#2 Albertus 104, #3 JWU 77

Championship Game  - Saturday, February 23

#2 Albertus at #1 Anna Maria


I think this is the game all fans could have asked for… the best two teams in GNAC, Anna Maria beat Albertus the only time they played this year. It was in Paxton; a very good back and forth game. It was tied with 4 minutes remaining when Anna Maria pulled away and hit their free throws late. Anna Maria is Athletic and has a lot of confidence, winning 16 straight games. Albertus has won the GNAC 2 out of the last 3 years, including a blow-out victory last year over the AMCats. This should be a great game, I think this game will be tight and if it comes down to coaching, Albertus has a huge edge. I think Albertus will come out aggressive, and very confident they can win on the road. They will be able to score, the key is on the defensive edge. I think they will concentrate on preventing wide open looks from 3 point range like in the first game. Either way, I think lots of scoring and much better game than last year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on February 23, 2013, 04:10:33 pm
Albertus goes on the road and avenges their lost with an 87-80 win. Watson scored 30+ and Jennings came up huge in the 2nd half.

PJunito, were you at the game? Do you have any idea what Lora or Jimmy said to earn those two technicals late in the game? Either it's worse than I can imagine or those refs wanted the game to be about them? Its the last 3 minutes of a conference title game. When questionable calls are made the kids are gonna be upset. Need to take the game into consideration. Also, the AMCat announcers didn't say anything about it but you could see the AMCat coach jawing at Mitch after the techs. Any idea why?

We await the selection show!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 23, 2013, 09:03:37 pm
I was at the game. What a great game and better atmosphere; two good teams, passionate fans, it was great! The AMCats fan were in full force, but Albertus had one section and made a lot of noise.... It was great!

Lora deserved his technical, he cursed at the offical. Dumb mistake on his part, but he looked right at the official and used the magic words, can't blame anyone for calling that, regardless of the score or time or kind of game.

Now, the technical on Jimmy, may be the worst call I've seen in collegiate basketball. Jimmy had just picked up his 5th foul and it was a stupid foul. He was walking off the court, taking his jersey out, and said .... to himself. The official immediately t'd him up and ran across the court.. he gave no explanation to Mitch. That is when the other coach started yelling saying give him (coach oliver) a technical.. Screaming at him.

Very dumb fouls down the stretch by Albertus, but they hung on. Watson took over the second half, scoring 11 straight points. Jimmy E and Jennings hit back to back three pointers to pull away with under 5 left. Larson hit two big free throws up 5 with 1:30 left, he knocked down two to push the lead back up to 7.

Anna Maria's fan were classy at the end; they gave Albertus and their own team big hands; many of them wished Albertus luck in the NCAA's...

Speaking of the tournament, this team is not as good as last year's team which lost in the second round. If they win one or two games, all the credit goes to Coach Oliver. He is a division 1 coach and maybe giving him a week to prepare for a team might give him an edge. Let's see. Selection show coming on Monday.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on February 24, 2013, 09:10:50 am
Was with Lora last night, and of course I asked "what did you say to get that tech?" He said "honest to God, I said nothing, I started clapping and they T'd me up." Amcats coach has lost twice to Mitch in GNAC finals, he seems bitter
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 24, 2013, 03:18:09 pm
Very bitter!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Charles on February 24, 2013, 08:01:41 pm
Was with Lora last night, and of course I asked "what did you say to get that tech?" He said "honest to God, I said nothing, I started clapping and they T'd me up." Amcats coach has lost twice to Mitch in GNAC finals, he seems bitter

he said nothing and got a "T"?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on February 24, 2013, 09:04:16 pm
Was with Lora last night, and of course I asked "what did you say to get that tech?" He said "honest to God, I said nothing, I started clapping and they T'd me up." Amcats coach has lost twice to Mitch in GNAC finals, he seems bitter

he said nothing and got a "T"?

Actions speak louder then words.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 24, 2013, 10:02:15 pm
Was with Lora last night, and of course I asked "what did you say to get that tech?" He said "honest to God, I said nothing, I started clapping and they T'd me up." Amcats coach has lost twice to Mitch in GNAC finals, he seems bitter

he said nothing and got a "T"?

Actions speak louder then words.

Yes, they do.. And he cursed. lol.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on February 24, 2013, 10:14:46 pm
Could definitely see Chi saying something haha. But I absolutely believe you when you say Jimmy didn't say anything. I saw him throw his hands up but you could tell he was upset with himself more than the call. Oh well, they got through it and held on.

Hoping they avoid one of the NESCAC juggernauts in the first round haha since they were beaten pretty handily last year and this team is weaker.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 24, 2013, 10:46:59 pm
I don't think they will play one of those teams in the first round... I think those teams will get "weaker" opponents. I think Albertus will head south, to NY, NJ, or PA.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on February 24, 2013, 11:11:03 pm
I don't think they will play one of those teams in the first round... I think those teams will get "weaker" opponents. I think Albertus will head south, to NY, NJ, or PA.

I could see them playing somebody like Purchase (Skyline champ), Old Westbury (if they make it), or Cabrini (CSAC champ).  IF they wanted to keep them in region (not likely, but who knows), I think MIT or RIC would be potential opponents for them.  Only about 13:20 until we can end the speculating and know for real!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on February 25, 2013, 01:29:49 pm
Albertus will head to PA to take on Alvernia. Just looking at their team statistics, seems much like the game 3 years ago against Willy P. Very balanced scoring (three guys in the 13-14 range, one at 11) and the numbers point to a defensive team. I think William Paterson was the best statistically on defense that year. Alvernia is only 5th in their conference in scoring but despite that they're 1st in point margin because they only give up 62 a game. They only shoot 44% from the field and 65% from the FT line. Not very big, no one runs above 6'6 and they start 2 guys under 6 ft at 5'9 and 5'11. Just at first glance it seems like it should be a good game and nothing the Falcons should be afraid of (besides the 4 hour bus ride haha).
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 25, 2013, 02:13:04 pm
Alvernia was the number 1 team in their region... Albertus was not ranked in their region... However, Albertus plays in a much bigger and probably better region. So, I wouldn't read too much into that. I think this is a classic 8 vs 9 or 7 vs 10 game (if this was D1). Both teams look on paper pretty even. Alvernia plays 7 guys, that is it. Alvernia starts 2 guards and 3 forwards. Their best two players are Brian Parker and Lamont Clark, Parker is a 6-5 junior who has shot the ball well recently; he scored 27 and 30 in the semi final and championship games (his best scoring performance). Clark is a 5'11 sophomore guard. They start three juniors and two sophomores, and have two guys coming off bench, a 6'6 center who avgs 5 mins and a freshmen who avgs 9 mins over last 5 games.

I think this is a great match-up for Albertus. Albertus likes to score and when they get into the 80's usually win a lot. Alvernia plays solid defense, keeping most opponents to the mid 50 range. The key will be, imo, can Albertus score 80 points. If they do, I don't see Alvernia scoring more than that to beat Albertus. Next post will have some match-up situations.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on February 25, 2013, 02:30:09 pm
That's what I was thinking related to a D1 format. I watched a little of their championship game from their site. Offense was a lot of iso/screens and seeing if the guy with the ball can make a play. When that didn't work they'd try to find Parker. I think Chi will be huge inside altering shots defensively, and just being there offensively since they don't have anyone that big.

Looking forward to your next post!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 25, 2013, 03:13:11 pm
Over the next few days I will give my breakdown of the game:

Here is what I will cover....

Alvernia Defense vs Albertus Offense

Albertus Defense vs Alvernia Defense

Experience

Home Court Advantage

And the keys to the game

I will start with Coaching.. in my next post.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 25, 2013, 03:57:55 pm
1. Coaching: Mitch Oliver is a heck of a coach - he can plan and prepare for other teams. You give him 5 days to watch film and develop a gameplan and 9 out of 10 times, his team will win. However, Coach Miller is a great coach; he has a 144-73 record as the coach at Alvernia. He lost two years ago in the first round of the NCAA’s in overtime and won the ECAC South tournament last year. This year, he has 4 guys who didn’t average over 17 minutes last year starting (including one new comer in Bennett) and has this team as the No. 1 ranked team in his region. He has also coached very talented players in the past and I am sure will have his team ready to play. What he accomplished this year is great, taking a team that had new players playing significant minutes and winning the regular season and conference tournament crown is quite a coaching achievement. Two very good coaches going at it.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 25, 2013, 04:31:27 pm
Alvernia plays in the MAC commonwealth conference...

Here is a link to their end of year awards:

http://www.gomacsports.com/news/2013/2/22/MBB_0222134907.aspx

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on February 25, 2013, 10:41:47 pm
Listen I'm an Albertus fan but not being bias here. The fact Darius Watson didnt win POY in GNAC is a complete, insane joke. Click is a good player, Watson a superstar. Big difference. Watson avg more points and rebounds and then in title game shut click down, while Watson put amc on there back with 34 points and 12 boards. What a joke.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 25, 2013, 11:01:14 pm
Well Said... Watson is clearly the best player in the conference... Take Watson off the team and Albertus finishes 4th or 5th in conference.

+1
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on February 26, 2013, 08:18:40 am
Completely agree. I was shocked to say the least. The only thing I can think of is their thought process (that is not right by any means) that Darius is just gonna clean house next year. But he was the better player this year regardless.

I never really get the GNAC's voting. I'm not sure if you guys follow soccer (I played at AMC) but this year a kid named Mike Skelton from Suffolk received GNAC POTY because he led the league in goals with 14. Stephen Zapata from Albertus had one less goal at 13, 9 more assists for a total of 7 more points. Stephen also had 6 game winning goals while Skelton had 5. And granted it's after the GNAC awards are announced, but Zapata was named a 2012 Second Team All-American and a 2012 NEISL All-Star. Those stories are on the GNACs website with nothing about Skelton. It's a shame if you ask me.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on February 26, 2013, 09:27:28 am
Skelton was from Lasell*
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 26, 2013, 10:47:24 am
We get more wrapped up in the awards than maybe the players and coaches do. But, I think if you asked most fans of the GNAC who the player of the year was.. they would have said Watson..


And Dave, I agree, they would have said Zapata was as well.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 26, 2013, 11:35:29 am
2. Alvernia Defense vs Albertus Offense:

I have not seen Alvernia play at all, but looking at their stats over the last 5 games and video highlights from online; they look like a team that prides themselves on man to man defense. They play a small line-up which probably helps them with pick and roll defense. They probably have 4 guys who can defend all 5 positions on the court. They also rebound the ball very well for such a small line-up (starters go 5’9, 5’11, 6’1, 6’4, 6’5). They average 7 steals, 3 blocks, and force 13 turnover per game. Albertus is an offense that loves to go inside to its Big man Lora. Give him a few touches, get him going, and open things up from the perimeter. But, let's face it, Darius Watson is the best scorer Albertus has and usually the best scorer on the court. He will be hard to handle inside and out.  Albertus does average 13 turnovers per game. Alvernia is quick and athletic and can convert those turnovers into easy points.

I think the question to ask will be: Will Alvernia play man to man and hope their speed can stop the inside game or go to a zone? I think they play man to man and hope Bridgers and Parker can contain Watson and Lora in the inside game.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 26, 2013, 03:26:19 pm
ECAC pairings:
#8 Emerson @ #1 Westfield
#7 USM @ #2 Anna Maria
#6 Johnson & Wales @ #3 Eastern Connecticut
#5 Wentworth @ #4 Castleton
Anna Maria did not put in to host the finals, so if Westfield loses and Eastern wins, Eastern is hosting the semi's and the finals March 2-3.  Quarterfinal games Wednesday, February 27 at 7.

Good luck to Anna Maria!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: WPI89 on February 26, 2013, 04:27:52 pm
Thanks Punto - I had been looking for the ECAC's.  Do you know the women's match-ups?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on February 26, 2013, 04:46:35 pm
Thanks Punto - I had been looking for the ECAC's.  Do you know the women's match-ups?

#8 Albertus @ #1 Castleton
#7 Endicott @ #2 Suffolk
#6 Salve Reginia @ #3 Wellesley
#5 Westfield @ #4 Roger Williams
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: eslaps on February 26, 2013, 07:29:30 pm
As someone new to the d3boards, and more specifically reading some of the posts about the GNAC, it seems to me that there is considerable bias towards Albertus Magnus as opposed to the other schools. 

In numerous posts, I have heard that people seem to believe Oliver is a great coach.  From an outside observer, I beg to differ.  He is a UNBELIEVABLE recruiter getting players of the likes of Askew, Watson, etc., but I  believe he has just has the more talented team and plays an uptempo style that favors his teams athleticism as opposed to "outcoaching" others.  With the talent that he has brought in over the past couple years, his teams should go undefeated in the GNAC. There may be people are that are over his teams and his own antics.  I had some free time, so I decided to check an obscure season statistic on Albertus.  They were given 23, I repeat 23 technicals this year as a team.  I always thought D3 basketball was about sportsmanship and integrity, and 23 T's doesnt exactly scream sportsmanship and integrity.

I also noticed quite the uproar over Watson not receiving POY.  So not knowing the actual statistics of either player, I compared Click from Anna Maria and Watson from Albertus.  Watson had the edge in ppg 23.1 to 19.4 for click.  Watson also shot the ball at an outstanding percentage of 55% but click also shot the ball at a 50% clip.   But click averaged more rebounds, dished out almost 3 times as many assists, averaged almost twice as many blocks, lead the league in steals and had a better assist to turnover ratio.  It seems Watson is the premier scorer in the conference, but if you look at the complete package, Click seems to have the upper edge.  Also, voting is generally done right after the regular season in most conferences, so at that point Anna Maria was the #1 seed so Click probably benefited from it as well. 

Someone said that if you take Watson off Albertus they are a 4 or 5 seed, what do you think would happen in Click wasn't on Anna Maria??
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on February 26, 2013, 10:22:12 pm
These boards are def bias towards Albertus, but you wanna know why? Bc Albertus has dominated the gnac for four years. Winning 3 titles, and the only one of those four years they lost in the semis with no askew(flu), no Lora, econopolus, or dugas. All of these three were suspended for the yr. or Albertus might have been on a 4 yr streak.

As far as Mitch Oliver goes. I went to Albertus from 04-08. I kid you not when I tell you those teams would have lost to my high school team, it was a joke. Go look at those teams records. Enter Oliver, and obv we know what he has done. 3 titles and two NCAA wins with a 3rd pending. He recruits the hell out of the area and has gotten fine talent, but here's where your wrong. Last yr Albertus lost to Edgar mevers, on a buzzer beater, there only regular season loss. Want to know why? Bc Oliver wasn't coaching that game, two T's prior game(ill approach this). Them this yr he gets two at Ana Maria, early in 2nd half, they lose. Oliver's first GNAC title in 2010, Albertus loses last game of yr to rivier, again with no Oliver. First round and next game they gave same Riv team and win by 20. He prepared his team for William Patterson that yr perfectly, and amc led all game before winning on a buzzer beater. He has complete control of his guys and what they run, and of you think it's just talent, your sadly dead wrong. A 2-23 team for yrs doesn't just turn things around on talent alone. In fact the key win that turned the whole program around was against a good trinity team, that was up nine on Albertus until Oliver started pressing with askew on the baseline five yrs ago. It jump started the program. I've seen many players become inelgible grade wise and also personal reasons not being able to play, and Oliver has overcome that.

Anyone who has seen Watson play, knows Watson is a step above Click. It's fine, bc Watson rather have his GNAC title he beat click out for last Saturday by dominating him.


Mitch gets his T's there is no doubt about that. But it's who he is as a coach, it's his personality. And guess what, it's worked. All that sportsmanship is great, but lets get real, if that's what it were all about, why keep score? The guy wins, and wears his emotions on his sleeve, like a lot of others. Of ppl are tired of his antics, and this board being bias, then someone else beat this guy in the gnac
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 27, 2013, 07:14:13 am
Thanks Punto - I had been looking for the ECAC's.  Do you know the women's match-ups?

#8 Albertus @ #1 Castleton
#7 Endicott @ #2 Suffolk
#6 Salve Reginia @ #3 Wellesley
#5 Westfield @ #4 Roger Williams

Thanks 7,  How did Western's women do?

Good luck to WPI in the NCAAs, WPI...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on February 27, 2013, 08:35:05 am
The board is biased towards Albertus because we're the only ones who post here  ;D
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 27, 2013, 12:18:25 pm
Eslaps, welcome to the thread and the boards...

It is good to get other opinions on this thread, I remember a few years ago there were many JWU and Emerson supporters and we had great discussions. Unfortunately, Albertus supporters are the only ones who are posting. I encourage you to continue to post.

I do disagree with a few things you said.

1. Mitch Oliver is a very good coach; he is a great recruiter, but a very good x's and o's guy. The competition in the GNAC is weak and Albertus seems like a run and gun type of a team, allowing their athleticism to take over. However, Mitch prides himself in defensive transition - turning steals and long rebounds into easy scoring opportunities. That is because, his team can play that style. 3 years ago, Albertus had a first round match-up with a very talented William Patterson team, a team that could score. Mitch had a game plan to slow them down, to play a princeton style offense, and give them an opportunity to win the game late. That's what they did. He prepares and I think he does it better than anyone in the GNAC.

2. Conference POY is voted by coaches who watch each team play, not a group of reporters. Stats are important but also watching these guys perform. Click is a good player, Watson is the best player in the conference. Watson plays strong defense, he doesn't get the steals or the rebounds because he is usually guarding the best scoring option. Case in point, Watson guarded Click the entire 2nd half, while Click was taken off of Watson because he was getting to the basket to easily. If you asked every coach who the best player in the conference is, they would say Watson.. no doubt in my mind. And to be honest, if you remove Click from Anna maria, they are probably a 4-5 seed as well. They are not a 2-25 team, however.

3. I agree, 20+ technicals is a lot. However, I don't think you can say that means the team has no sportsmanship... Most of the technicals were warranted; but rememeber these are kids. College Athletes are not professional people (for the most part), and you have some kids who mess up. And Coach Oliver picked up his share, he works the officials. He gets emotional, he wants to win. I think many other coaches are like this as well. Overall, I think he is a strong presence on the sidelines and wants to compete. But, after every game, win or lose, they shake their opponents hands, they are not a dirty team (no cheap fouls or ugly plays), they don't get into altercations...

Just my thoughts... I would also add, that we try to be a pretty honest group. Hey, I am homer, no doubt about that. But, you will see some of us think we might lost certain games.. Look at previous post, some of us were scared of Anna Maria and I know of a few people who think we have no shot vs Alvernia.

So, it is always rosey, sunny glasses.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on February 27, 2013, 12:31:44 pm
Well said^ and yes I'm the guy who thinks alvernia is going to be a very tough out. But if we learned anything from Byron reeves in 2010 against William Patterson, come march, things aren't the same and anything can happen
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Charles on February 27, 2013, 12:40:09 pm
Eslaps, welcome to the thread and the boards...

It is good to get other opinions on this thread, I remember a few years ago there were many JWU and Emerson supporters and we had great discussions. Unfortunately, Albertus supporters are the only ones who are posting. I encourage you to continue to post.

I do disagree with a few things you said.

1. Mitch Oliver is a very good coach; he is a great recruiter, but a very good x's and o's guy. The competition in the GNAC is weak and Albertus seems like a run and gun type of a team, allowing their athleticism to take over. However, Mitch prides himself in defensive transition - turning steals and long rebounds into easy scoring opportunities. That is because, his team can play that style. 3 years ago, Albertus had a first round match-up with a very talented William Patterson team, a team that could score. Mitch had a game plan to slow them down, to play a princeton style offense, and give them an opportunity to win the game late. That's what they did. He prepares and I think he does it better than anyone in the GNAC.

2. Conference POY is voted by coaches who watch each team play, not a group of reporters. Stats are important but also watching these guys perform. Click is a good player, Watson is the best player in the conference. Watson plays strong defense, he doesn't get the steals or the rebounds because he is usually guarding the best scoring option. Case in point, Watson guarded Click the entire 2nd half, while Click was taken off of Watson because he was getting to the basket to easily. If you asked every coach who the best player in the conference is, they would say Watson.. no doubt in my mind. And to be honest, if you remove Click from Anna maria, they are probably a 4-5 seed as well. They are not a 2-25 team, however.

3. I agree, 20+ technicals is a lot. However, I don't think you can say that means the team has no sportsmanship... Most of the technicals were warranted; but rememeber these are kids. College Athletes are not professional people (for the most part), and you have some kids who mess up. And Coach Oliver picked up his share, he works the officials. He gets emotional, he wants to win. I think many other coaches are like this as well. Overall, I think he is a strong presence on the sidelines and wants to compete. But, after every game, win or lose, they shake their opponents hands, they are not a dirty team (no cheap fouls or ugly plays), they don't get into altercations...

Just my thoughts... I would also add, that we try to be a pretty honest group. Hey, I am homer, no doubt about that. But, you will see some of us think we might lost certain games.. Look at previous post, some of us were scared of Anna Maria and I know of a few people who think we have no shot vs Alvernia.

So, it is always rosey, sunny glasses.

Some teams have 0 technicals for the entire season. Not sure any technical is warranted.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on February 27, 2013, 01:10:33 pm
Thanks Punto - I had been looking for the ECAC's.  Do you know the women's match-ups?

#8 Albertus @ #1 Castleton
#7 Endicott @ #2 Suffolk
#6 Salve Reginia @ #3 Wellesley
#5 Westfield @ #4 Roger Williams

Thanks 7,  How did Western's women do?

Good luck to WPI in the NCAAs, WPI...

19-8 overall, 11-5 in the LEC when you include tournament games.  We lost to UMass-Dartmouth in the LEC semifinals in overtime.  Lost 2 road games to sub .500 teams; so if we win those 2 and win the semifinal game, were probably in the tournament.  Obviously didn't put in a bid to the ECAC's because a 19-8 team would've been all but a lock to make it.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 27, 2013, 01:20:32 pm
Thanks Punto - I had been looking for the ECAC's.  Do you know the women's match-ups?

#8 Albertus @ #1 Castleton
#7 Endicott @ #2 Suffolk
#6 Salve Reginia @ #3 Wellesley
#5 Westfield @ #4 Roger Williams

Thanks 7,  How did Western's women do?

Good luck to WPI in the NCAAs, WPI...

19-8 overall, 11-5 in the LEC when you include tournament games.  We lost to UMass-Dartmouth in the LEC semifinals in overtime.  Lost 2 road games to sub .500 teams; so if we win those 2 and win the semifinal game, were probably in the tournament.  Obviously didn't put in a bid to the ECAC's because a 19-8 team would've been all but a lock to make it.

That sucks man!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 27, 2013, 01:21:33 pm
Charles, I meant that the officials were right in giving the technicals.

But, there are some coaches who have tried to used getting a technical as motivation to their players..
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 27, 2013, 01:22:05 pm
3. Albertus Defense vs  Alvernia Offense: Most people who look at the stats probably think Albertus is an offensive minded team. Actaully, they are a defensive minded team; many of their quality scoring chances come from solid defense. Forcing long shots which turn into long rebounds and quick scoring chances or steals from their guard play. Alvernia has a few guys who have shot the ball poorly the last few games; however, have two guys who have shot the ball over 50% for the year (Parker and Clark).This team has a balance scoring attack – Bennett 14.3 ppg, Parker 13.8 ppg, Bridgers 13.7 ppg, Clark 11.3 ppg). They share the ball nicely and they get a lot of points in the paint. Odd for a smaller team. This tells me that they can penetrate very well.  They don’t shoot the ball very well from 3 point land (35% as a team, but they take a lot of 3 point shots – 469).  I think the goal will be to have those guys take shots. Watson will be match-up on Parker for most of the night.. he completely took Anna Maria's Click out of the game on Saturday in the second half. Parker, however, is the best post player Albertus will face this year. Jennings and Economopuls will share the responsibility of slowing down Clark. I think you will see an aggressive defense to begin the game and force poor decisions. The big thing is keeping Waston on the floor, if he gets in foul trouble it will be bad news for Albertus. I think Alvernia will look to use their speed and quickness, trying to penetrate and kick out for open looks. If Alvernia is getting to the hoop easily or hitting their shots, than it might be  a  long night for the Falcons. However, Alvernia’s offense has had stretches were they have not played well offensively. It should be fun to watch what each coach does.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on February 27, 2013, 01:42:33 pm
19-8 overall, 11-5 in the LEC when you include tournament games.  We lost to UMass-Dartmouth in the LEC semifinals in overtime.  Lost 2 road games to sub .500 teams; so if we win those 2 and win the semifinal game, were probably in the tournament.  Obviously didn't put in a bid to the ECAC's because a 19-8 team would've been all but a lock to make it.

That sucks man!
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Yah, we had the ball at the end of regulation and missed 2 straight layups at the buzzer then got outscored 10-0 in overtime.  I would have rather lost by 50.  At least then you were never in the game.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 27, 2013, 01:53:59 pm
Yea, those kind of losses stay with you a long time... I still remember dropping a fly ball in the 9th that cost us a win.. You just wanna throw yourself out of a window and then replay the game a 1,00 times in your head.

How do you think West Conn bounces back next year?  Men and Women.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on February 27, 2013, 01:55:39 pm
Charles also had a hard time comprehending others on the NESCAC thread, when it was clear as day the point someone was making. Same thing here, not hard to understand what warranted means
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on February 27, 2013, 02:08:21 pm
Yea, those kind of losses stay with you a long time... I still remember dropping a fly ball in the 9th that cost us a win.. You just wanna throw yourself out of a window and then replay the game a 1,00 times in your head.

How do you think West Conn bounces back next year?  Men and Women.

The men really can't do any worse last year.  Have some talent there in Starks & Groski, those 2 got a lot better as the season progressed so there's hope.  Hopefully coach Campbell can go out and recruit some talented kids.  Need a PG though, turnovers killed us last year.  I'd say they'll finish about the 3rd-6th range.  Eastern will be good, RIC as always will be good.  Keene you never know.  Lose a bunch of guys (Rashard Wright, Ryan Martin), have a couple good ones coming back (Eric Fazio, Tom Doyle).  They lack motivation so thats why their a question mark.  Boston & Dartmouth have a lot of young talent.  USM finished 4th they have a bunch of guys returning.  Gonna be wide open.
Women I think can still finish in the upper half.  USM (the conf & tourney winner) loses 3 starters, but they return a talented D-1 transfer who only a sophmore lead the conf in field goal percentage and all second team selection.  They had absolutely no bench, so I think they drop from the pack.  Dartmouth loses the conference player of the year but that's gonna be a very good team, probably my preseason pick.  Western loses 3 starters, and the leading scorer tore her acl in February, so they might start off not so good, but they'll be up there.  Boston, RIC & Eastern all have young and talented teams.  Eastern's roster was pretty much all freshmen & sophmores this year and they still finished tied for 3rd.  RIC was one of the conferences better defensive teams they have 4/5 starters returning, Boston has the last 2 rookie's of the year on their team.  Keene loses their best player, Plymouth will still be terrible, but hopefully they can improve on their 2-40 LEC conference record the last 3 years (and no that is not a typo.  1-13 in 10/11 and 11/12, 0-14 in 12/13), and 1-24 overall record last season.  I'd say Western about 2-4.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 27, 2013, 02:12:41 pm
Did you have that on a word document?  That's awesome stuff 7.. Thanks..

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on February 27, 2013, 02:12:49 pm
Pjunito, usually a couple days at the conclusion of the LEC season (hopefully it;s npot for another 3 or 4 weeks) I post an off-season preview where I'll rank the teams where I think they'll finish the next season based on graduations, so look out for that when RIC & USM conclude their seasons whenever that may be.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 27, 2013, 02:13:55 pm
I will. I'll try to do that also for GNAC>.. As Emerson is leaving the conference.. not sure if we are adding anyone.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on February 27, 2013, 02:15:34 pm
Great!  Looking forward to how you see the GNAC shaping up next season.  Also where's Emerson going again, the NEWMAC??
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 27, 2013, 02:15:57 pm
Correct, Emerson to the NEWMAC.

As a heads-up for those who don't already know, the Bracket Challenge is out! Our friends at d3photography.com manage our official picks contests:

http://d3photography.com/bracket_challenge/

Playing for pride, which means student-athletes and department personnel can participate.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 27, 2013, 02:29:47 pm
Thanks Pat... Yea, the NEWMAC.

There has also been talking of Anna Maria leaving as well..
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on February 27, 2013, 02:44:00 pm
Yea, those kind of losses stay with you a long time... I still remember dropping a fly ball in the 9th that cost us a win.. You just wanna throw yourself out of a window and then replay the game a 1,00 times in your head.

How do you think West Conn bounces back next year?  Men and Women.

The men really can't do any worse last year.  Have some talent there in Starks & Groski, those 2 got a lot better as the season progressed so there's hope.  Hopefully coach Campbell can go out and recruit some talented kids.  Need a PG though, turnovers killed us last year.  I'd say they'll finish about the 3rd-6th range.  Eastern will be good, RIC as always will be good.  Keene you never know.  Lose a bunch of guys (Rashard Wright, Ryan Martin), have a couple good ones coming back (Eric Fazio, Tom Doyle).  They lack motivation so thats why their a question mark.  Boston & Dartmouth have a lot of young talent.  USM finished 4th they have a bunch of guys returning.  Gonna be wide open.
Women I think can still finish in the upper half.  USM (the conf & tourney winner) loses 3 starters, but they return a talented D-1 transfer who only a sophmore lead the conf in field goal percentage and all second team selection.  They had absolutely no bench, so I think they drop from the pack.  Dartmouth loses the conference player of the year but that's gonna be a very good team, probably my preseason pick.  Western loses 3 starters, and the leading scorer tore her acl in February, so they might start off not so good, but they'll be up there.  Boston, RIC & Eastern all have young and talented teams.  Eastern's roster was pretty much all freshmen & sophmores this year and they still finished tied for 3rd.  RIC was one of the conferences better defensive teams they have 4/5 starters returning, Boston has the last 2 rookie's of the year on their team.  Keene loses their best player, Plymouth will still be terrible, but hopefully they can improve on their 2-40 LEC conference record the last 3 years (and no that is not a typo.  1-13 in 10/11 and 11/12, 0-14 in 12/13), and 1-24 overall record last season.  I'd say Western about 2-4.

Word has it Campbell is recruiting Walter Wright from Wilby who while I don't know the high school landscape as a whole, may be the 3rd best player in the state behind Khalil Dukes and Tyshon Rogers. Also talks he was going to go prep in hopes that he can get to a low/mid D1 like Damian Saunders and Anthony Ireland. I'm hoping for the latter being a Wilby/AMC grad haha. If he realizes he's never going to go pro and just wants to enjoy playing some more basketball he'd INSTANTLY help any D3 program, especially one like Western or even Albertus.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on February 27, 2013, 03:13:13 pm
He's been at the last couple of Wilby home games too, maybe looking at some other NVL talent?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 27, 2013, 03:57:58 pm
Coach Campbell doesn't go so many years with a winning record without the ability to recruit. I am sure he will be targeting many good players from Connecticut.. I think they should have a strong class next year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on February 28, 2013, 12:27:31 am
GNAC goes 1-1 against the LEC in ECAC action this evening.

Anna Maria beats Southern Maine 76-62, Johnson & Wales loses to Eastern Connecticut 85-64, getting outscored 50-24 in the second half after leading by 5 at halftime.  Eastern shot 61% from the floor for the game and would have to guess was about 65 to 70% in the second half.
Emerson loses to the 1 seed Westfield state 71-52 I believe.

Anna Maria hosts another LEC school Eastern Connecticut in the semifinals Saturday afternoon at Westfield state @ 3:00 PM.  Tip off of that game is around 3 PM.  Westfiield vs. Castleton state is the first semifinal at 1 PM.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 28, 2013, 11:18:59 am
Thanks for the updates 7.

Good luck to Anna Maria in the second round. Should be a good game between them and Eastern.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 28, 2013, 11:20:52 am
4. Experience: We always hear how a senior led team is tough to knock out in tournament time. Albertus has 2 seniors’ starters in Lora and Jackson and they have 3 coming off the bench, Jimm E, Dugas, and Sweeney. The team has been focused during the playoff run and was down as many as 14 to Anna Maria in the championship and didn't panic. Alvernia is a very young team, one senior who has seen 30 seconds of action the last week; mostly juniors and sophomores. Alvernia had a tough semi-final game erasing a 7 point deficit with 5 minutes to play (every point came at the foul line); the coach had to call a time out because he felt they were panicked and the game was over... If Albertus falls behind early, they have the seniors to keep them in the game. Can Alvernia remain under control if that happens to them?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on February 28, 2013, 03:48:59 pm
5. Home court: Alvernia has won its last 5 games at home and is 12-2 on the year. They have a great crowd, lots of energy.  They give up 62.6 points per game at home. They probably feed off their crowd especially defensively. They rebound the ball well for being a small sized team (37 rebounds a game); this means they are well coached and probably understand how important a home game is. Albertus is 9-4 on the road this year; they avg 78.5 pts in their 4 losses; down 7 points from their 85.4 season average. Alvernia will be tough at home; they are Athletic and can play defense, couple that with a loud crowd and Albertus may be in for a long night.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on March 01, 2013, 12:57:43 pm
6. Keys to the game:
 a. Foul trouble – Alvernia plays 5 guys for the most part. They bring two guys off the bench but only one has significant playing time the last few games. If Alvernia gets into foul trouble especially with their big two, it might change how they attack defensively. Albertus cannot afford to have Watson in foul trouble. Last year against Midd, he went to the bench with 10 minutes in the first half and sat the rest of the hald with two fouls. Midd was winning 15-11, Albertus was down 12 to start the second half. Watson finished with 0 points in the first half on 0-3 shooting. Watson scored on the first offensive possession in second half, then missed 4 consecutive lay-up opportunities as Midd took him out of the game, blocking shots, forcing bad shots, and altering his shot attempts. Who can keep their stars in the game?
b. Offensive rebounds – the team that wins the offensive rebound battle, in my opinion, will win the game. Both teams will take pride in defense and force the other team into poor possessions. The second and third opportunity points will be huge.
c. the stars – In order to win this game for Albertus, Watson has to play like a star. He is a beast and has the power to get to the rim, he also shoots at a 40% clip from the 3 point arc. He needs to avoid silly offensive fouls… Clark and Parker have led Alvernia during the playoffs, however, they have 4 very good players. One thing they need to do is shot the ball well from the perimeter. Clark and Parker are the leaders, these guys need to shot at a high clip; or get to the line. It won’t be a good day for them, if Parker and Clark are having bad games. They have to shoot well to win.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on March 01, 2013, 01:07:06 pm
I definitely think AMC needs to attack from the tip. It seems on the road they tend to settle for long jump shots (especially against the AMCats, hence why they went down double digits early). Probably a trend for most teams but Albertus has the talent to get to the hoop, or get it inside to Chi. Attack the hoop, force them to play in the paint. If we settle for long contested jumpers and they aren't falling, the crowds gonna let the Falcons know about it and it could be over quick.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on March 01, 2013, 01:07:38 pm
a trend for most teams on the road*
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: ECHoops03 on March 01, 2013, 02:39:41 pm
I definitely think AMC needs to attack from the tip. It seems on the road they tend to settle for long jump shots (especially against the AMCats, hence why they went down double digits early). Probably a trend for most teams but Albertus has the talent to get to the hoop, or get it inside to Chi. Attack the hoop, force them to play in the paint. If we settle for long contested jumpers and they aren't falling, the crowds gonna let the Falcons know about it and it could be over quick.

During this nice stretch for Magnus of 5 years, they have actually been underrated in some ways offensively. Sure, they get their fair share of points on the break off of turnovers, but what has really set them apart in the GNAC was the ability to get their athletes in great positions to score on a nightly basis. Askew and St. Juste in years past were terrors to keep track of due to a ton of transition and quick hitter screens in the half-court. This is one of the main reasons for Magnus getting to the line so often- they execute so well, so quickly. It is tough to stretch a big lead out on a team that executes well, especially one with athletes like Magnus.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on March 01, 2013, 03:07:31 pm
I have Darius Watson on my NCAA fantasy league team, so hopefully AMC can surprise some teams, get wins, and Watson can score a lot of points.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on March 01, 2013, 03:15:44 pm
Saw you take him. I was kinda following the thread to see where he would go. Rooting for you because of the pick haha
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on March 01, 2013, 03:22:40 pm
I wanted him, but got screwed having the first pick, lol.  I thought he'd go in the early to mid second round like 5+ above me.  My eyes lit up when I saw he was still there at the end of the second round, haha.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on March 01, 2013, 03:27:28 pm
7, I think the reason he is there is because most people don't believe Albertus will win their game vs Alvernia. And they may lose, Alvernia is very talented and Athletic and have a lot of scoring options. Not to mention play amazing defense. However, I have not seen Watson more motivated than this past week. This is now his team (It was Askew's team his first two years). He is determined to have a good game, that means he will have points, rebounds, and assists. He may have 5-7 turnover, but should finish with 26 and 8. And if they win, you get him for two games. same numbers regardless of opponents. (maybe more turnovers in second game)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on March 02, 2013, 04:41:15 pm
Prediction: I won’t predict a score, because I want Albertus win!

Alvernia is very athletic and has the best big man in Parker that Albertus will face. Albertus has one of the best scorer’s in the country and the leader of the team in Watson. These teams have two very good coaches who have been studying their opponents and will have the team prepared. Both teams have limited benches and it will be imperative to keep their starters on the floor. Both teams get to the foul line and shoot at an ok percentage; experience may come into play at the line. Both teams want to control the glass and play strong defense. Albertus would like to break the 80 point mark and Alvernia will want to play in the mid to high 60’s. The team that can do this will win this game. I see this as a tight game, but Alvernia’s ability to rebound can help them get numerous second and third scoring opportunities. If Alvernia has over 10 offensive rebounds that lead 14 points they win the game. If Albertus holds Alvernia to less than 8 second chance points, they win the game.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on March 02, 2013, 04:42:19 pm
Good luck to Anna Maria as they take on Eastern CT State today in semi-final of ECAC.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on March 02, 2013, 04:51:00 pm
Good luck to Anna Maria as they take on Eastern CT State today in semi-final of ECAC.

Just went final, Eastern wins 77-65.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on March 02, 2013, 05:17:09 pm
Yea, I saw that.  Good season for Anna Maria.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on March 03, 2013, 09:30:06 am
Albertus falls to Alvernia 97-78 last night to end their season.

Congrats to Jimmy Eco, Jefferson Lora, Arshad Jackson, Zach Dugas, Mike Sweeney, and Kevin Rogers on a fine four years, winning 3 GNAC championship and going 2-3 in the NCAA tournament. Also, having the honor of playing on last year's team that was ranked as high as 12 in the nation at one point.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on March 03, 2013, 09:47:16 am

Looking back at the keys to victory, imo, Alvernia executed better than Albertus. Albertus didn’t get to 80 points (they also had a lot of points when the game was already over), Alvernia out rebounded Albertus, and they also were able to get to the paint and the free throw line. The first 13 mins of the game was excited to watch, it was back and forth, with good defensive play by Alvernia and strong offensive possessions by Albertus. However, with the score tied at 26 with 8 mins left, the game changed. Alvernia finished the half with a 25-7 run to control the game. They did this by doing what they do best; they used their athleticism to get into the paint. This caused many issues for Albertus; Alvernia was able to draw fouls, get easy looks at the basket, and dish to wide open shooters behind the arc. During the 25-7 run, Alvernia went 12-12 from the free throw line; they made 35 free throws in the game. Now, for some people who didn’t see the game and are just looking at the stats, I do have to same, the officials were fair, they were a solid crew. Maybe one of two questionable calls (both ways) the entire game. Alvernia simply outplayed Albertus during that 8 min stretch. Albertus settled for long quick jump shots or fade away looks or rushed passes whereas Alvernia attacked the basket and created easy scoring opportunities that lead to wide open jump shots or a foul. They also played great defense.

In hind sight, probably slowing the game down and going to Lora or Watson down low could have helped the offense.. Jennings was out of control at times shooting 4-17 from the field and had wild passes… And Coach Oliver is a man to man defensive guy, but the pick and roll killed the team. Maybe trying a zone against this team may have slowed down their offense.

Again, give all the credit to Alvernia. They played well on both sides of the ball and deserved the win. Good luck to them.

On a side note, Jimmy Eco did hurt his ankle during practice early in the week and did not play. He is a good player, strong defender, and made big shots during the season. However, imo, he doesn’t make a difference. He can’t guard everyone on the court.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on April 01, 2013, 09:53:45 pm
Hello GNACers, New member to the forums here but long time D3Hoops fan. Looking forward to talking with some of the GNAC members on the forum about offseason recruiting and then another season of GNAC basketball in 2013-2014. Just to get it out of the way I am an Albertus fan because I’m from the shoreline of CT and really enjoy their style of play. Plus from where they started when Coach Oliver got the job to where they are now is truly amazing. Go Falcons!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on April 08, 2013, 03:35:38 pm
Welcome Junkie!

The boards have been pro Albertus the last two years. Hopefully, we get more fans from the other GNAC teams.

We also have great regional contributors from the other boards.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on April 09, 2013, 08:10:14 pm
Thanks for the welcome PJ,
I have been reading the boards for a while now and noticed that they are very pro Albertus which for us is a good thing, even though some more healthy chatter from other programs would make the boards more interesting. I heard that the Falcons are going after a lot of JUCO talent this off season with hopes of reloading after losing such a great senior class.  Any thoughts on off season recruiting? I know Coach Oliver is a great recruiter and he seems to have found a nice niche in New Jersey the past couple seasons. (Mark Wilson, Rodney Wilson and going back a couple years Mike Torres)

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: officer cadet on June 02, 2013, 01:33:20 am
Norwich add to class of 13 kids .
Paul Preziosi(6-2 G/F) from Middlesex Magic AAU Cardinal Spellman High(MA).
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on July 10, 2013, 12:52:42 pm
Not sure what else is happening on the recruiting front for AMC, but I just saw they have Trevon Gibbs, a 6'7 F/C from Kaynor Tech coming in this fall. According to the New England Recruiting Report he's the 42nd ranked player from the state in 2013 but if you exclude all the prep schools (the likes of South Kent, St. Thomas More, etc) he's in the 8-12 range of regular high school kids. Didn't get a chance to see him play in person but his name was always in the box score for Kaynor, which were the number 2 team in Class M heading into the state tournament. Definitely a solid addition, and I'm assuming there's much more coming from Mitch!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on July 10, 2013, 11:29:35 pm
Hey LilDave, I was fortunate enough to see Gibbs play a few times this past high school season and I must say that he is athletic as they come. I’m not sure if his game will be able to translate into a serious threat right off the bat as a freshman but overall if he can stick with it and listen to Coach Oliver and learn from the veterans he should be a very solid player in years to come. All his damage is done at the rim. He doesn’t really have a mid-range jumper at all but he makes up for it big time by finishing everything at the rim. Rumor has it Oliver is going to bring in a number of JUCO players this upcoming season. I hope so because with the loss of all those seniors, it would be nice to get players in who can immediately contribute. Also, I guarantee that Oliver brings in a few kids from Jersey. He must have some serious contacts in that area because he’s been getting quality players from there the past couple seasons. Rodney Wilson should be healthy this year and he is supposed to be a really good talent. Can’t wait for the season to start.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on July 14, 2013, 09:33:16 pm
Albertus hires new AD.  http://www.albertusfalcons.com/information/generalreleases/AbromaitisAD

Former player at UConn, son played at Notre Dame and is trying to make Boston Celtics.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on July 14, 2013, 09:48:55 pm
Dave and Junkie,

What is up guys... Can't wait for November to start another basketball year. I am confident in Oliver, he is a solid recruiter. But, let's look at what he has coming back:

Darius Watson, probably best player in the conference. He has been to back to back tournament appearance and as a senior should have his best season.

Julian Saunders, this kid was having a solid season offensively and defensively before getting hurt before the playoffs. His lost was a bad one for the Falcons last year. He will be a junior, very athletic and a solid jump shooter. Also has the ability to finish around the rim.

Rodney Wilson, didn't play at all last year. Probably the most athletic kid on team. I heard he is polish and has the ability to score. Very long and strong defender. Should be a starter next year.

Jennings, had a fantastic freshmen year. He was erratic at times, but made clutch shots in the championship win vs Anna Maria. He has confidence and the ability to score. He handles the ball very well. He needs to improve his shot selection and look to pass a little more earlier in the games. He reminds me of Trey Burke from Michigian, as a freshmen trey took a lot of bad shots but wasn't afraid to take the big shot. As a second year player he made better decisions with the ball but still wanted to take a big shot. I'm not saying he is trey burke, but if he improves his shot selection, he could be deadly this year to opponents.

Larson, had a lot of minutes near the end of the year. He is a energy guy, who is good around the rim controlling rebounds. He also made huge free throws in the game vs Anna Maria. He can run the court and plays solid defense.

Starting five (with no additions) should be Jennings and Saunders at the gaurds, Watson and Wilson at the forwards, and Larson at Center.  This is a solid line-up. No depth, but solid starting five.

Now Oliver has proven to bring in a solid class each year with at least one impact player.

2012 - Wilson and Jennings
2011 - Smith, Dugas, Saunders
2010 - Watson
2009 - Lora, Jackson, Jimmy Eco
2008 - Askew

If Mitch can bring in two solid guys (and one stud), wow, now you bring depth to this team and they can compete again for a GNAC crown.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on July 16, 2013, 01:49:54 am
Hey PJ,

Great assessment of next year starting five but I must disagree with you at one position and that is Lemar Larson. I think that you are going to see Lemar come off the bench to start the season which in my opinion actually helps him when it comes to relaxing and playing the game that we all know he is capable of. Not sure on who will play in his place yet until I know the other recruits coming in but I am going out on a limb and saying that Oliver will go to youth on the interior (possibly Trevon Gibbs) with what will be in my opinion the most athletic team that he has ever put on the floor.

In other news I know we had a few posts about recruits and Trevon Gibbs is confirmed according to NERR. It looks like Oliver scored with another combo guard in Kyle Wiggins (formally of Dean College) who apparently will play his final two seasons with Albertus. Wiggins has good size and can really score the ball but lacks a defensive presence which might hold up his game slightly. I believe that Wiggins will still be able to contribute right away and give the team good quality minutes off the bench.

The clock is ticking, Can’t wait for another season. Keep the recruiting updates coming.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on July 16, 2013, 01:27:39 pm
Junkie,

Great points regarding the team for next year. I agree that Larson will be coming off the bench, I was just throwing him in there because I had no one else. I think competition is a good thing. If Oliver can bring in 2-3 contributors right away along with some development players than this team could be solid next year and the years to come.

Where are you finding the commits to Albertus? I searched on the NERR website but didn't find anything. Would love to know if there are any other future falcons in that group.

At the end of the last year, I looked at the winning teams around the region at the D3 level. They all have very similiar teams. Let me know if you agree.

1. Very strong guard play - guys who have a high assit to turnover ratio
2. One guy who can get his shot when he needs it
3. A knock down long range shooter
4. strong team defense and chemistry
5. at least 7 players who provide productive minutes


Now compare that to last year's team:

1. Average guard play, Jackson had a great year but jennings and dugas were inconsistent
2. Darius Watson can be that guy
3. Jimmy Eco and Julian had moments, but they didn't have that guy
4. They play strong defense in most of their games but didn't turn teams over as much as in previous years
5. injuries and the lost of Armstead hurt their depth

So, from a fan point of view.. my wishlist.

1. Improvement from Jennings and recruiting a solid back-up pg who doesn't need to score but should protect the ball
2. Allow Darius to continue to grow and score
3. Recruit a guy who makes 4 three's a game (someone who keeps the defense honest)
4. Have a Miami Heat approach to defense; fg percentage is not as crucial as forcing turn-overs; especially turnover that lead to easy points)
5. Bring in 4-6 guys who can provide productive minutes. I think we all get caught up in bring in studs.. but, really we need a team. Guys who can come into a game and  defend, extend leads by executing the offense, and rebound.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: WPI89 on July 16, 2013, 03:47:53 pm
You guys are hardcore - you do know it is the middle of July and 97 degrees out, correct?

Well done.

"See you" all in the Fall.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: amh63 on July 16, 2013, 05:20:35 pm
WPI89....surprised that you are " trolling" in this kind of weather!   Want to let you know that your "recruit" for Amherst is one of an expected class of 7 players to arrive in the Fall.  Will need to be ready to compete for playing time.  Take care and will chat again in the Fall.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on July 21, 2013, 08:07:21 pm
Hey PJ,

Nice insight on your last post. I’m going to go through in order with how your post was set up to give you my own thoughts and insight.

To answer your first question, NERR actually has Trevon Gibbs listed as committed to Albertus already so you probably just missed that by mistake. If you go to the website and in the top right of the page you will see rankings. Click that and then click CT, from there you will see Gibbs as the #42 prospect in the state of CT and if you go back a few posts LilDave made a nice assessment stating that “if you exclude all the prep schools (the likes of South Kent, St. Thomas More, etc) he's in the 8-12 range of regular high school kids.” As I mentioned later on I got to see Gibbs play and in my opinion excluding the Preps School I would reach out a bit more and say he is in my top 15 of “regular” high school players in CT. If he had anywhere from a 10 to 12 foot jumper I believe he would have been recruited more heavily but with that being said I am really glad that Oliver was able to score this kid. He is an elite athlete and has a high motor around the rim finishing and rebounding. I look for him to develop that jumper and be a very productive player in the next few years to come.

And to answer your question about Wiggins, I heard he was a coach/counselor at the Oliver Hoop School the past couple weeks and he has stated on social media that he is going to Albertus. As far as other players are concerned I haven’t been able to find anything online but I have heard a few things about a couple more guards and another “big” from NJ that is supposedly committed but I don’t know their names yet.
I'll keep the board posted!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on July 21, 2013, 08:21:58 pm
As far as your assessment of the other D3 regional teams I would say that is completely accurate and #5 has a lot to do with that particular coach’s style of play.

In your assessment of last year’s team I can’t say that I totally agree with #1 only because Jackson’s stats were good but I felt his consistency and effort for me was not there every game and specifically in important games. Spot on with Jennings and Dugas though. Jennings was a young freshman and Dugas just beat himself up too much most of the time.
#2 is spot on, we all know Darius is the man and he is the guy and will continue to be the guy
#3 Julian Sanders is going to step in and be the guy who gets 4 3 pointers a game. He shoots the ball extremely well and I think starting is going to be the best thing for his game. Also he is IMO the best player on the team when it comes to slashing and getting to the basket but need to work on his finish and touch around the rim when he does so. And if you look at the stats he quietly lead the entire conference in three point fg percentage at a staggering 48.1%.
#4 I would absolutely agree and like to see more turnovers. I believe that will happen this year.
#5 100% agree that the injuries and losses of players like Armstead really hurt their chances in the NCAA. I firmly believe that if they had the same team from start to finish the NCAA’s would have been a different story.

My wish list would be to get some more depth and really work on defense and turning teams over more. We all know by now that as long as Oliver is there year in and year out Albertus will be tops in the country in scoring but as we have seen the past couple season, once you hit the NCAA tournament it is an entirely different ballgame and you must play both ends of the floor in order to compete and advance.

And to WPI89, it’s never too early to start talking about college hoops LOL.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on July 31, 2013, 12:40:42 pm
WPI... miss ya on the boards.. Hopefully it will be another entertaining year.

Junkie, you make great points. Thanks for the instructions on the NERR website. I was away on vacation, but am back now.... Only a few months away from midnight madness.


I agree with all of your points; including Jackson. I thought he had his worst game in the NCAA tournament. I look for Julian to have a big year. He takes quality shots and 48% is out of this world.

I am excited about learning who the new recruits are. I think the team is solid as is, but need a few pieces to really make a run. I think Albertus will be playing another division 1 school, that is always fun.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on August 02, 2013, 07:52:30 pm
PJ,

Agree with you 100% on the need for Albertus to add depth to their roster. Recently added to the list of committed recruits via the NERR is Daylon Ore who attended Hartford Public and seems to really have a knack for scoring the ball. I guess he averaged around 20 points or so for Hartford Public this year. I unfortunately never had the opportunity to see him play so I don’t like to talk much about a player until I actually see them play. I guess he has a pretty interesting and inspiring story that is on YouTube about him actually sustaining a gunshot wound earlier in his career at Hartford Public and being able to come back and compete and play at a high level.

Also, word on the street is that Albertus will be playing against Central Connecticut this year which should be fantastic. I’m sure Darius is excited about this game as it will take place in his hometown of New Britain CT. Should be a fun game, not sure on the date yet.

Tick Tock Tick Tock, Is it November Yet??
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on August 07, 2013, 10:38:08 am
If I'm not mistaken, wasn't Darius originally supposed to go to CCSU as well?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on August 07, 2013, 10:46:32 am
and here's the video Junkie was referencing. AMC gets a shoutout at the end haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXT5MAeqp14
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on August 07, 2013, 06:09:41 pm
LilDave,

If I remember correctly I think Darius was committed to the University of New Haven before the coaching change took place right before his freshman season. With that being said, I think after this game and even now if Dickenman saw what Darius has turned into under Mitch's coaching and his work ethic and transformation from a slightly overweight maybe even undersized player for what he was recruited as to what he is now, he would have made him an offer years ago. But that's the great thing about basketball and recruiting, you cant really predict how good or in some cases bad a player is going to be until they get on the court and put in the work. There is no doubt in my mind he can be playing at a school like CCSU.

Thanks for posting the video as well. Pretty interesting piece. I hope the kid works hard and succeeds, he seems like a high character guy.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on August 14, 2013, 09:55:47 am
Lil Dave,

Great piece on Ore.. He is coming to Albertus from what I heard.

I am excited to see what the roster looks like in the fall. Albertus has a new AD, I think this guy will bring the entire program to another level. He is a former professional basketball player and has connections.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on August 27, 2013, 10:12:56 pm
Word on the street, open gym at Albertus on Thursday night... Maybe some of the returning and new players will be there...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on September 06, 2013, 10:05:36 pm
WOW.......

So, they won't be ranked to start the year... But, this team might be a force.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on September 22, 2013, 12:18:57 am
Schedules are out here on D3Hoops.com. Thanks again to everyone from D3Hoops for keeping us D3 basketball fans in the loop. It looks like we can officially mark it on our calendars Falcon fans, Albertus will play D1 Central CT State Univ on December 29th at 1PM. Always a treat to play in these games regardless of the outcome.

Overall I think Albertus non-conference schedule is fairly strong. I wouldn’t call it outstanding but I would definitely say that there are some strong matchups with both SUNY Purchase and New Jersey City. The games against Newbury and Elms are intriguing as well IMO because both programs are well respected and well coached.  The conference schedule remains fairly straightforward. The biggest regular season game of the year should no doubt be the February 18th matchup at Johnson and Whales. JWU has been a very tough place for Albertus to play at over the past few years and I believe that these two teams will once again be battling in the end for the GNAC crown.

On to the team, from what I gather this might be Coach Oliver’s most athletic team that he has had in his tenure at AMC. If we thought that we can run and gun before, wait until this year. The “bigs” that were brought in this offseason are athletic as they come and not one of them should cause the pace of the game to slow down which could be very scary for GNAC opponents. Still don’t know all the recruits but from what I’ve heard there are close to 10 total recruits.

PJ - Were you referring to Albertus not being ranked to start the year in your previous post?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on September 26, 2013, 08:32:49 pm
Hey Junkie,

Yes, I was referring to Albertus being ranked...

It looks like Albertus has a total of 8 new players: 3 who will start, four transfers.

Yes, I think this is the most athletic Albertus has been under Oliver. I think they will be really tough to defend. Eian Davis is the new point guard; he is quick, look for lots of steals. And their bigs have better feet than bigs last year. I think you can see lots of fast break opportunities... Oct 15 is almost here, we should see rosters and some practices at that point.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on September 27, 2013, 03:01:17 pm
PJ,

Thanks for incite on the team. Eiean Davis looks like a stud and has plenty of experience under his belt. I love how Oliver is able to recruit and bring in these JUCO transfers. Most GNAC teams were probably thinking and hoping that with the loss of Albertus’s senior class the conference might open up a bit more but from what I have heard and seen, this team may already be much better than last years and even years past.

I’m curious to know who you think the three new players that start will be. I don’t think it will be three but that’s my opinion. I think Oliver will elect to go with the players who have been with the program and understand his offense best. Oliver is so passionate and loyal to his players and the game. That doesn’t mean he won’t pull one of them out of a game in a split second because we have all seen that, but I really believe that Jennings, Sanders and obviously Watson will start because of their relationship with one and other and the fact that they are the foundation and leaders of this team. The other two starters for me are totally up in the air. I would love to put Lemar’s name on this list but we all know about his inconsistencies, to be totally honest I think the best thing for him is to come off the bench. Less pressure and he gives us great depth.

Your thoughts? Also can you elaborate on some other recruits if you have any more info.  I have heard that there is a big from a JUCO school in NJ but still haven’t gotten a name.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on October 15, 2013, 08:43:38 am
Its official College Hoop Fans,

October 15th marks the 1st official day of organized practices and workouts. Within a month the D3 season will officially be under way and I can’t wait to see how the season transpires. The last couple D3 seasons have demonstrated such parity and it has made the conference tournaments and NCAA tournament that much more exciting.

Looking forward to a great season

As always, (Since this is the GNAC thread) Go AMC Falcons!!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on November 01, 2013, 11:06:32 pm
Hey GNAC Fans.... It's November 1st! Hoops season is right around the corner.

I didn't go to Midnight Madness, but I have heard  that Albertus has a solid looking team. Now, of course, lay up drills in October don't necessarily mean the team has any talent.. So, with that being said.. here is a breakdown of the team.

Guards:
Jennings - rising sophomore, quick guard - needs to make better shot selections
Saunders - hurt at end of year, strong defenders, shot over 45% from 3 point range
Davis - Explosive guard, transfer from ASA in NY. Strong defender and good ball handler
Jackson - Freshmen from West Haven HS, don't know to much about him

Forwards:
Watson - best player in conference last year...
Victor L. - Can't pronounce his last name, transfer student from ASA, good ball skills around the hoop
Wilson - Didn't play last year, could be most athletic player on team

Center
Gibbs - Very raw talent, big body, will get some minutes but will need work
Larson - Junior Starter, has improved each year and should continue to do so this year. Very athletic

There isn't a roster up yet on the website....

I can get more information on the other new players soon. First game is on Nov 15 at the Mitchell Tournament.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on November 04, 2013, 11:15:28 am
Looking forward to some more information from you PJ, as well as the roster once it's posted!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on November 04, 2013, 02:47:56 pm
Thanks for the roster update PJ,

On Halloween night Albertus played a scrimmage against ASA which is a junior college and happens to be where 2 of our new recruits came from in Eian Davis and Victor L. (Can't spell his last name) Albertus performed quite well, they play two 20 minute halves and essentially break each 20 minutes into its own separate game. The teams split the contest one winning the 1st and the other winning the 2nd.

Eian Davis is an absolute stud, lighting quick with the ball can score and finish from multiple angles and is also a great distributor and defender.

Victor L is another great addition. Hes a legit 6'8 and can score with great post moves and strong finishes inside and also has the ability to step out and hit 3 pointers at a very good percentage.
 
This will hands down be the fastest and most athletic team under Coach Oliver. The starting backcourt IMO will be both Davis at the 1 and sophomore James Jennings at the 2. These two guards on the floor at the same time will easily make for one of the fastest backcourts in the country, hands down.

My other predicted starters are Darius Watson who is the best player in the league by far, and Victor L. The last position will be up to either Marcus Walker who was another transfer from JUCO at Union City College or Lemar Larson, the Junior forward who as PJ has mentioned has improved every year.

I know my lineup has changed from previous posts but in light of the new recruits and information on them I think that was likely to happen anyways. Bringing Julian Sanders and also JUCO transfer Kyle Wiggins off the bench is a deadly combination of shooters who can flat out score the basketball.

This team is going to be outstanding once they mesh together and find there rhythm. I say it takes a solid 3 weeks to really figure it out but once they do it’s off to the races.

Tre Gibbs is going to be a stud to. 6’7 dunks everything in sight. Again still a bit raw but a tremendous true freshman to have on the team. Almost forgot about him.

Seasons inching closer and closer. Go Falcons!!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on November 05, 2013, 05:27:20 pm
Junkie!

Awesome break down..

It sounds like they are deep as well. Last year team was not very deep and it should in the tournament game. They lost Jimmy Eco and Julian Saunders for that game and could not keep up with Alvernia. Here is a look at the line-up:

Davis, Jennings - Guards
Waston, Victor L - Forwards
Walker - Big Forward (C)

Off bench - Julian, Wiggins, Lersen, Gibbs - some of those guys could start on other GNAC teams..

Now, there were some other new recruits and the Wilson cousins.. Are they still on the team?

I think you will see an up tempo and very strong defending falcon team..

10 days away!!1 let's go..

Any word on Lehman and how they look?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on November 05, 2013, 11:54:23 pm
PJ,

The depth of this team is tremendous and should not be an issue. Last year’s depth was a concern from beginning to end. Whether it was freak injuries or players unfortunately either flunking off or leaving the team for other reasons it certainly didn’t help their chances in the NCAA tournament. This year’s team seems to have much more dedicated and high character incoming players that want to be there and understand how talented and good this team that they are part of can become.

I didn’t forget about the Wilsons and I know Marc is still currently on the team and I am almost certain Rodney is still there as well. From what I heard in the past Rodney was an outstanding talent. He didn’t play last year but I was told that he would have started and is a flat out scorer. So again this can attest to the depth that this team has. The scoring that can come off this bench is scary good. As for other incoming recruits will have to wait for the official roster to be posted before I can go into detail.

The scouting report on Lehman:

They are a tough typical New York City style team. Solid, quick and durable that rely greatly on their guard play. Also in the same conference as Medgar Evers who handed the Falcons an overtime loss two years ago and probably cost them from running the regular season table.

Should be an interesting matchup but overall I think the Falcons win on depth and talent. Plus we have our own New York style guard that we can lean on this year in Eian Davis!!!

I hope (and kind of expect) to play Mitchell the following night. Mitchell has made great strides over the last few seasons and I think they present a very nice early season test for the Falcons. They are both very familiar with each other and it should make for an exciting game.

I can’t wait to see this team in action!!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on November 06, 2013, 11:29:54 am
After thinking about the roster and knowing some information about the recruits, here is the run down, and with some info on some of the guys we haven’t touched base on in previous posts.

1.Eian Davis

2.Victor L

3.Kyle Wiggins – Transferred from Dean College in MA, great shooter and an extremely hard worker, my only worry is defensively can he get the job done. Offensively he should come off the bench and score from the perimeter and be a really good contributor.

4.Tre Gibbs

5.Marcus Walker – This kid is a BEAST on the boards. A rebounding machine with good presence around the rim offensively and will be a very solid front court player who understands and knows his role. Great addition from Union College in NJ I believe.

6.Teiron Jackson – Guard who played for West Haven and I believe led the state in scoring 2 years ago. Pretty good size and can score the basketball. Only question will be can he find minutes because of how loaded the position is for the Falcons this year. If he works hard and stays on course his time will most definitely come.

7.Daylon Ore – Hartford guard who IMO is very similar to Teiron. Can score and isn’t quite as big but again the depth in the backcourt is so deep. Another player who if he works hard and wants to put in the work should be a valuable player in the future.

I may be forgetting one because I think they have a total of 8 recruits??

Pair these guys up with Darius Watson, Lemar Larsen, Julian Sanders, James Jennings, The Law Firm of Wilson and Wilson and the rest of the squad. WOWWWWW!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: jamiejohn on November 06, 2013, 08:49:04 pm
I heard Ore is no longer at Albertus.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on November 07, 2013, 08:11:53 am
Thanks JamieJohn,

I believe that is the case but I just wanted to include him in my rundown because I was not 100% sure if he had left or not. I didnt want to leave anyone off from the original recruitment list.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on November 07, 2013, 08:46:45 am
Anyone know of a reason why? The story on him was awesome, but perhaps he wasn't too keen on all the JUCO talent coming in?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on November 07, 2013, 11:23:06 am
Not sure why LilDave,

Will try to get more information on his decision. I would have to say that the JUCO talent and overall depth at the guard position perhaps greatly altered his decison. That story was pretty awesome.

If he can go somewhere else and can contribute right away, then good for him. 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on November 08, 2013, 10:58:40 am
Darius gets some love and makes the Honorable Mention for the d3hoops preseason All-American list. Think it's safe to say if he played anywhere but the GNAC he'd be higher on the list. Good to see him on it at least though!

link: http://d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/preseason-2014 (http://d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/preseason-2014)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on November 08, 2013, 11:44:33 am
Finally some love. No question that if he was in another conference he would be up higher on the list. With that being said it still an awesome achievement.

I think we are going to start seeing more and more love for Albertus as the team continues to have success year in and year out. To think Ray Askew wasn’t named a preseason All-American going into his senior year and then finished as a 2nd teamer. I think we can expect the same thing out of Darius this year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on November 09, 2013, 11:42:44 pm
Albertus traveled to #9 ranked WPI for a scrimmage this morning and handed the Engineers a loss. I know it was just a scrimmage but WPI has been one of the best and most consistent programs in the Northeast over the last few seasons and to have the opportunity to scrimmage such a great program and come away with a victory should only boost the confidence of this Falcons squad.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on November 11, 2013, 08:17:28 am
That's awesome D3HJ! Any specifics on how the game went, or just hear the score?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on November 11, 2013, 01:25:38 pm
If anyone is interested, there are a bunch of ASA College games on youtube from the last season (Where Davis and Ljuljdjuraj played). I know in the one I've watched so far, Ljuljdjuraj is listed as #45 in the description but he's #40 in game.

EDIT: Watched a second game and he was #45
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: officer cadet on November 13, 2013, 12:48:08 am
My prediction Norwich 13-14 season. 
Starting five
PG  Nickolai Havoutis  Sr  Experience,Steady PG
SG  Tom McDonald    Sr     Best 3pts shooter,I exepect he over 15 pts Avg.
G/F  Alex Preckol   So        Great team defender ,good feel for game.
F    Evan Tullar      Jr         Long,Athletic Foward.Could be breakout this yaer. Potentially he make all conference team(2nd team ) after end of the season.
F    Jay Vinci          So       Actually,he didn't play last season.But he could be contribute to team(Defensively,Rebound) right way.

First came off the Bench
SG   Jimmy Warden  So  Hard nosed player.
F     Grant Brown      Fr   he bring depth on frontcourt rotation.
G/F  Gary Gladden    So  He can play multiple position.

Lost 3 contributers(2 starters ,a backup PF) But Returning 3 starters and 3 key role players from last seson squad.
add to some impact incomingclass.(Vinci,Brown etc.. ) but I think rebuild yaer for this year Cadets.
We Don't have Talented/Big man like Former NU F/C Antonio Davis 11' so ,Cadets would be struggle around basket on offense/defense.

Athletics department hired new Assistant coach from Boston Metropolitan area who served coaching solid AAU program there.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on November 14, 2013, 08:13:07 am
Wonder if Albertus will post a roster before Christmas!  ??? ???

And no surprise here - Albertus picked to finish first in the GNAC Preseason Poll:

http://thegnac.com/sports/mbkb/2013-14/releases/20131113odwg77 (http://thegnac.com/sports/mbkb/2013-14/releases/20131113odwg77)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on November 14, 2013, 01:05:43 pm
I think we are all waiting for a roster LilDave. I would say a more accurate date would be New Years at this rate. 

I always got a kick out of coaches holding out because they don’t want other teams knowing who they have or what size they have. WHO CARES!!! Especially at this level, all these players talk on social media and everything else. If someone wanted to really find out who a team has, they could.

Just saw the pre-season coach’s poll and not surprised at all by the results. Just to throw my opinion out there, if I were voting I would have Johnson and Whales ahead of St Joes. I understand the returners and leadership coming back for St Joes is huge but if you look at the two teams I think that JWU is much more athletic and returns IMO one of the best young players in the GNAC with Quarry Greenway.

24 Hours till Tip-Off…..Gonna be a great season in GNAC and D3Hoops
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: jamiejohn on November 14, 2013, 01:20:18 pm
JWU also has Franklin Pierce transfer Matt Barboza.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on November 15, 2013, 11:59:32 am
ROSTER IS OUT! ITS LIKE CHRISTMAS!!!

See that Ryan Spears from Wilby is on the squad. Not sure how much PT he'll see but he is a hard worker who's on ball defense is awesome. Very smart with the ball, doesn't make too many mistakes. Much more of a pure point than the hybrids who can score that AMC is used to. I could see him playing a Jimmy Eco like role (minus the jumper), especially defensively if he stays and grows as a player.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on November 15, 2013, 12:51:43 pm
I love the talent of this year squad between the JUCO transfers and incoming freshman. Along with what we had already returning, this team is going to be an absolute force. I think when it is all said and done we are going to look back at the end of this season and say this was the best team that Albertus has ever had.

As long as they listen to Coach Oliver and play as a team and listen to each other out on the court, this is going to be a fun year.

5:30 game time, I will put my postgame thoughts up tonight once I return home. Go Falcons!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on November 15, 2013, 03:17:23 pm
and of course there's a NHRegister article talking about how this might be a rebuilding year!

http://www.nhregister.com/sports/20131114/albertus-magnus-may-be-in-rebuilding-mode (http://www.nhregister.com/sports/20131114/albertus-magnus-may-be-in-rebuilding-mode)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: marketherrien on November 15, 2013, 03:57:26 pm
A cheap plug if you will -

The Worcester Area College Basketball (coaches) Association revived its awards program last year and, for the second consecutive year, is  complimented with a Twitter account - @WACBAHoops https://twitter.com/wacbahoops (https://twitter.com/wacbahoops)

The feed features daily news, scores, recaps and more for all nine NCAA men's and women's basketball programs in Worcester County: Anna Maria, Assumption (DII), Becker, Clark, Fitchburg State, Holy Cross (DI), Nichols, WPI and Worcester State.

Matt Noonan (@NoontimeSports), as heard on Hoopsville, selects the weekly men's and women's players of the week and an honor roll for each gender. Along with the weekly release there will be standings and statistical leaders for points, rebounds and assists. Both will are slated to be released on Monday afternoons.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on November 15, 2013, 04:32:20 pm
The registers coverage of this team over the past 5 years has been a joke. They deserve so much more credit then what they get from the media. I realize they are a small D3 team but this is the NewHaven Register and they should cover Albertus more being there from NewHaven and have become one of the most consistent teams in D3 basketball.

I love how Oliver plays it off like its a rebuilding year to. The guy never stops coaching LOL. He knows what he has an how good they will be. Maybe the register will cover them more once they realize they were wrong
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on November 15, 2013, 10:44:20 pm
OK Falcon and GNAC fans, I just returned home from tonight’s game.  The Falcons were victorious 86 to 73.

I was very impressed with what I saw offensively. Eian Davis will without doubt lead the league and be one of the tops in the country in assists. After one game I have no doubt that he is the purest point guard that Albertus has ever had. This kid just loves sharing the basketball. I also need to make note of his speed. He is literally one of the fastest players I have ever seen with a ball in his hand, AT ANY LEVEL and I truly stand by this. He finished with 9 assist and 10 points.

Victor L is a tremendous talent as well. Has a great finish around the rim and can definitely hit the mid-range jumper. Also had 11 rebounds to go along with 13 points. Should be a double double machine in conference play. He is also a legit 6-8 which is nice to see since we all know how generous coaches and SID’s are with listing height and weight.

Darius Watson did his thing as usual scoring a game high 31 points and knocking in what I thought was 4 consecutive 3’s in the first half. I like for him to help out a bit more on the weak side with rebounding instead of watching at times but I just can’t really knock him after pouring in 31 and still grabbing 7 boards.

Julian Sanders I thought played pretty decent. Didn’t shoot the ball from deep to well which I was surprised by but he slashed and took the ball to the rim whenever he wanted and got to the free throw line and for the most part converted those FT’s. Finished with 11 points

Now on to my grinder of the game…… Lemar Larsen. I thought his effort was superb, really battled on the boards and definitely put on some much needed weight and muscle in the off season.  I thought his initial defensive matchup was going to be a problem because he came out on a much smaller forward who looked to have much more speed then Lemar but it didn’t turn into a real factor. He had some nice finishes around the rim but my one pick on is that he needs to make his FT’s more consistently. Other than that from my standpoint he played one hell of a game. 11 points

That was the starting 5 and notice how they all scored in double digits.

Onto the role guys (quickly)

Marc Wilson provided great minutes and made some nice baskets in the second half when the lead became very close. Marcus Walker looked pretty solid, made a couple of bad decisions with shots but hes a big strong kid and I think he’ll progress as the season goes on. Kyle Wiggins is going to be the guy for this team that comes off the bench and launches from wherever he is on the court and I like guys like that. He may seem a bit lost out there right now and most spectators are probably wondering why he would pull the trigger on some of his shots but I think that’s a confident player and even though he was off tonight from deep I really like his stroke and willingness to shoot the ball. He nailed a dagger three at the buzzer to end the first half as well.

Trevon Gibbs got a few minutes and as we all expected he is extremely raw. What I LOVED however was when Coach Oliver signaled to him to enter the game I don’t think I have ever seen a single player get to the scoring table so fast and that really impressed me. You can just tell by looking at the kid hes a workaholic and will be a really good player in years to come.  Troy Owens and Allen Brown also got into the game.

Before I end this I would also like to give credit to Lehman as well. This was a quality team with some really good talented players. At one point it looked like Albertus was going to blow the game open but they fought right back and played very well. This was a great first game for Albertus to play because Lehman  for the most part was as athletic.

The Albertus defense for me was an issue (even with 20 TO’s) for me but I’ve gone on long enough tonight and want to get to bed. After tomorrow’s game with Mitchell maybe I’ll touch base on that.

Good first win, Lets keep it going
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on November 15, 2013, 11:37:11 pm
Great assesment! i was at the game tonight and agree with basically everything posted above me. Here are my thoughts after watching tonight.

Eian Davis- OMG, i have never been more excited to watch a kid at albertus like i do this kid. he literally is the fastest kid I've seen with the ball. He could score 45 if he wanted too, but just wants to dish dish dish. he took not one bad shot tonight. i have no problem calling this kid the best pg in the conference even without seeing other pgs in the conference yet, bc no one last yr that i saw is on this kids level. i haven't seen a pg this good since jeremy shannon. and this kid might be better, yes that good! The best part about him is that he is so vocal, is the leader on this team, no doubt in my mind. had a smile on his face the whole night. he gave watson so many open 3's, just wow with this kid. what a land by oliver.

Victor- looked like a man amongst boys in the first half, then got a little lazy in the second half, for which he was pulled for a good portion of the second half. reminds me of Guiton(i think that was his name) from lasell a few yrs back. the kid from miami. except this kid can hit threes. Gnac has its hands full with this kid.

Watson- may have seen more open 3's tonight then he did all of last yr lol. davis just makes him that much better.

Larsen- took some shots i think he shoulda of dished off, but the kid is a workhorse

Jennings- didn't play, imagine him and davis together? they might get ticketed for speeding

Wiggins- def seems like a confident three point shooter, excited to see how he develops

Sanders- Solid as usual, missed some threes, but the perfect role player

Lehman was tough, especially that lefty that couldn't miss. Mitchell blows out albany pharmacy, tough road game for albertus tomorrow. They most certainly should win by 10-20 but mitchell at home will be tough. Not as much size as lehman, so i think their style fits right in for albertus to look great. they better play better D though. all in all great first game. just hope everyone stays healthy and eligible!!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on November 16, 2013, 12:10:20 am
and of course there's a NHRegister article talking about how this might be a rebuilding year!

http://www.nhregister.com/sports/20131114/albertus-magnus-may-be-in-rebuilding-mode (http://www.nhregister.com/sports/20131114/albertus-magnus-may-be-in-rebuilding-mode)


I LOVE how the article states they lost to Anna Maria in the GNAC finals, than then next sentence says advanced to the NCAA tournament.

Now they probably would have gotten in with a loss, but I can guarantee (and I hate making guarantee's too, so it must be right) that Anna Maria DOES NOT LOSE to Eastern in the ECAC semifinals if they beat Albertus in the GNAC finals....mainly because they would have bypassed the ECAC.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on November 16, 2013, 08:44:26 pm
Falcons win again an capture the Mitchell College Tip Off Championship with 99-89 victory over host Mitchell. Good fast paced game which truly showed the athleticism of this Albertus team. Mitchell is much improve and a very talented team but the Falcons were just to much for them to overcome. Darius Watson named tournament MVP after back-to-back great games. Even though he didn't shoot the ball too well today he still finished with 21 points and managed to turn in a great game. Eian Davis joined Darius on the all tournament team and finished today's game with 27 points and 11 assists.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on November 16, 2013, 10:18:04 pm
and of course there's a NHRegister article talking about how this might be a rebuilding year!

http://www.nhregister.com/sports/20131114/albertus-magnus-may-be-in-rebuilding-mode (http://www.nhregister.com/sports/20131114/albertus-magnus-may-be-in-rebuilding-mode)


I LOVE how the article states they lost to Anna Maria in the GNAC finals, than then next sentence says advanced to the NCAA tournament.

Now they probably would have gotten in with a loss, but I can guarantee (and I hate making guarantee's too, so it must be right) that Anna Maria DOES NOT LOSE to Eastern in the ECAC semifinals if they beat Albertus in the GNAC finals....mainly because they would have bypassed the ECAC.

7, New Haven journalism at its best.... I disagree with you in one area... Albertus with 3 losses in the GNAC last year, doesn't get a bid. They were ranked 11 in the last regional polls. How is western looking?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on November 16, 2013, 10:22:44 pm
Great breakdown by you guys... I felt like I was there.

This Davis kid sounds like the real deal... I heard that he is great floor general. Albertus has been missing that the last few years. Add Davis with Victor L and Watson and wow that is a lot of talent on the floor. You have a big man, a great ball handler, and a great scorer....

Now add all of the role players: Saunders, Jennings, Lersen, Wiggins, and Wilson. This team could be the best that Oliver has had. They need to clean up their mistake, work harder on the defensive end, and learn to play with each other. Would love to see how this team is playing in January.

Can't wait to hear more from you guys.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on November 16, 2013, 11:46:35 pm
PJ,

You really can’t put into words how quick and electric Davis is with the basketball. Really need to see it to believe it, he is that damn good.  And he really is a floor general out on the court. He can distribute the ball like no player I have seen at this level and he can also turn on the switch when it is time to go end to end and score. He is like a blur out there. I almost think he loves passing more than scoring when you watch him play LOL. He threw an alley oop to Darius (which was the second time they pulled it off in the game) and after Darius caught it and threw it down Davis fell to the ground in excitement and shock, he could not stop smiling. He really is a leader and enjoys getting everyone involved and the team already feeds off of him as he runs wild and controls the show.

The depth and scoring that can come off this bench is tremendous and Victor L as I’ve already stated is a monster with an incredible touch.

The defense right now is suspect, even though they are forcing turnovers in both games Albertus gave up quite a high number of open jumpers and the loose balls (especially today) didn’t seem to go there way because to me it seemed like they were leaking out a little earlier then they maybe should have trying to get out on the fast break before really securing the basketball. Just an observation and I definitely think this will improve once the coaching staff goes back and studies the game film.

I could go on and on about other players and their performance but will save that for another time. And by January this team will no doubt be clicking on all cylinders as they have already surprised me with how well they play together.

Go Falcons and good luck to all GNAC teams in non-conference play

I just want to say one more thing. I have all the respect in the world for Mitchell and how they have progressed over the years. Josh Ford is an outstanding player and Alex Del Rio is a very underappreciated guard but the Mitchell fans, and I don’t want to say all of them because it wasn’t but the majority was a disgrace. So much so that if I were Coach Oliver I wouldn’t even play in the tournament next year. Booing the awards ceremony in a Tip Off tournament is just ridiculous.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on November 17, 2013, 12:33:18 am
7, New Haven journalism at its best.... I disagree with you in one area... Albertus with 3 losses in the GNAC last year, doesn't get a bid. They were ranked 11 in the last regional polls. How is western looking?

They would've been close.  Would've come down to what other teams from other regions were on the board comparable to them.  But I'm with you, I think they would've been left out, luckily they got the auto bid and didn't have to worry about any what if's.

Western's 1-1 losing to Bowdoin 80-55 Friday and beating Fitchburg 95-82 yestersay, but since I coach now and have night classes on most of the night's they play I don't think I'll be watching many games in person this year, so can't tell you in person how they looked since I wasn't actually up there in MA this weekend.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: officer cadet on November 18, 2013, 02:20:49 am
Cadets participated Ramada Roundball Invitational @University of New England and
advanced Championship game but loss to Daniel Webster 62-57.
Evan Tullar and Tom McDonald named All tournament Team.
Not bad season start (1-1) ,Team seems get better each day and appearing unexpected contributor on the frontcourt players.

Next game on Wednesday Nov 20 @Johnson state 7PM
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on November 18, 2013, 01:45:31 pm
After watching some of those ASA games on youtube, I was definitely excited about Davis and Victor L but the analysis has me absolutely stoked! Too bad their first home game isn't until December 7th!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on November 18, 2013, 07:34:01 pm
Cadets participated Ramada Roundball Invitational @University of New England and
advanced Championship game but loss to Daniel Webster 62-57.
Evan Tullar and Tom McDonald named All tournament Team.
Not bad season start (1-1) ,Team seems get better each day and appearing unexpected contributor on the frontcourt players.

Next game on Wednesday Nov 20 @Johnson state 7PM

Welcome to the boards Cadet... We have to stick together until conference play... There hasn't been a lot of support for the other GNAC schools on this board in years. Keep us posted on the happenings in Vermont. We will do the same with Albertus.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on November 18, 2013, 07:42:47 pm
Junkie,

You're the man bro! Thanks for your recap and insights. I felt like I was in the crowd; but I wasn't. I can't wait to discuss this team throughout the year. I really believe that this is Mitch's best team. He has always had one very solid player - Askew for three years, Watson for three years, and a good set of role players - Waldens, reeves, Jackson, jimmy eco, etc... He did have Askew and Watson together for one year; and that team was dominate for most of the year. But, Watson was a freshmen and had off games at times. They were killed by Middlebury when Watson sat on the bench.

This team adds two veterans at key positions along with a determined Watson. Adding a point guard like Davis immediately makes you a contender for the conference. But adding Victor L along with him makes an impact on the region. I will expand on this later as I have to take my son to basketball practice...

Yeooo....

PS. lil dave, Albertus must have thought they were the rangers playing on the road while MSG was under renovation.. Unfortunately for us... the nest is still the same ol nest.

 
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on November 21, 2013, 08:29:45 am
Thanks PJ,

I enjoy doing the updates!!! Im going to do a little preveiw for tonights game against Newbury in a little while.

To recap some scores from last night, unfortanatley it wasnt a good one for the GNAC.

Mount Ida lost to former GNAC member Emerson 85 to 56. Norwich lost there contest with Johnson State 86 to 72.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: officer cadet on November 21, 2013, 09:43:40 am
Norwich lost to NAC's Johnson state 86-72 last night so,NU falls to 1-2 overall.

Cadets had to knock off them but Norwich Defense was totaled by Johnson's center Bryan Hickey(20pts)
and SG Asim Khan(23pts).
while ,Cadets Tom McDonald tallied 20pts,
Evan Tullar scored 16pts,
also,Nickolai Havoutis turned in 13pts.

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on November 22, 2013, 12:03:38 am
Sorry guys, I didn’t get around to doing a pregame. Too much going on at work and didn’t have the time. I Didn’t travel to the game tonight but was able to catch it online. The Newbury video feed I thought was actually very good.

Not going to give a big rundown, just a couple quick points. 

Albertus came hot out of the gates and you almost knew right from the beginning that they were simply too good for Newbury to matchup with. Newbury was a slower team defensively and came out in a zone defense which obviously didn’t work for them because Albertus and specifically Darius Watson were able to knock down 3 pointers with ease. He was really feeling it tonight. Finished with 26 points on 10 of 15 shooting.  I think the Newbury coach new that if they had switched to a man to man it would have been even worse because they simply couldn’t match the speed and athleticism of Albertus.

Grinder of the game goes to Marc Wilson. Had 16 points and a monster first half to really set the tone. I wanted to mention him because he is a hard worker who plays the game right. I also think it is appropriate because I believe we will be seeing much more of Marc because from what I can gather, unfortunately Julian Sanders season has come to an end. Apparently he has a torn ACL (sustained in the Mitchell game) and will not be able to return for his senior season. I feel for this kid, he has been a tremendous asset to the team for his entire career and his production and ability to shoot the 3 and also slash to the rim will be missed.

Bright spot of the game for me is Allen Brown who came off the bench and from what I could make out on video played very well. It’s so much different when you are there to see it live but from what I saw he looked pretty good and just gives Coach Oliver another weapon to come off the bench. This team could really shoot the ball and with Eian Davis breaking down zone defenses and dishing (had another 9 assist tonight) I really cant see an easy way for a team to matchup with us. Against a zone we make shots and against man to man we run and gun.

Defense looked much improved tonight too; Newbury didn’t have any easy shots. Almost all were contested and we also won the rebounding battle.
Also, big hats off to Lasell College who beat #23 Rhode Island College tonight in overtime 98-94. Love to see other GNAC teams winning great games and a win against a ranked opponent no matter what is always a quality win.

So much for short a short post, Go Falcons and Good luck to all GNAC teams as your seasons progress.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on November 22, 2013, 10:07:54 am
Great rundown junkie! I couldn't get the video feed on my Mac, but nice win for albertus on the road. What awful news about Sanders. I feel for him. Hope he has a speedy recovery.

Is there any news on Jennings? His injury or how long he's out? Tough road matchup against NJC next game for albertus, they have their hands full, especially with Khalil Muhammad.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on November 25, 2013, 08:59:33 am
I think Jennings will be back this week at full strength and will be just fine for the NJC game. He sustained a high ankle sprain in practice prior to the start of the season. Honestly, he probably could have played in the Newbury game if needed and called upon but as we saw by the outcome he wasn’t.

Julian Sanders injury is sad but the depth on this team is outstanding and I don’t think they will miss him that much when it comes to point’s contribution. Kyle Wiggins will see increased minutes along with Allen Brown and when Jennings gets back, he will slide right into Sanders role providing just as much if not more offensive firepower. Defensively they will be fine as well; Julian was by no means a lock down defender. What he did provide however was a “long” guard meaning he could alter outside shots with his size and length. Julians athleticism was never really appreciated in my opinion. I still to this day think he was one of the best at slashing to the rim and turning his body in such a way to really draw contact without getting called for offensive fouls. His explosiveness was unmatchable and unfortunately it was a play like this that ultimately gave him the injury.

NJC does make for an interesting matchup. No doubt Khalil Muhammad is there go to player, however if you look at their current schedule, they are 4-0 against teams who on the season have a combined 3-8 record. So as we can see they have yet to face a real tough team. Now you can say the same thing about the Albertus schedule so far as well but I still think Albertus has faced stiffer competition. We will know MUCH MUCH more about NJC after their game tomorrow with Rutgers-Newark which is being video broadcasted. I know I’ll be watching and will give my prediction on the Albertus NJC game after that game has completed.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on November 25, 2013, 09:24:24 am
I also wanted to propose this question to the GNAC board because I don’t really know the answer and was hoping to get some clarification.

With the injury that Julian sustained resulting in the end of his senior season, is it possible for him to come back and have the NCAA grant him another year of eligibility. I know the season has already started but with only two games played I thought there was a circumstance that if only X amount of games are played he can be granted another year. This is also assuming he would want to even come back and play another year but let’s just say for arguments sake he does.

I am sure Coach Oliver and even Albertus new athletic director Jim Abromaetis is all over this issue. Jim’s son Tim played for Notre Dame and if anyone here followed the then Big East, it seemed like Tim played for about 8 years at ND. The poor kid went through so much injury wise at ND and was granted extended eligibility from the NCAA.

Is it the same for D3? Is there a silver lining? I just hate to see a kid’s college career end this way.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on November 25, 2013, 10:14:19 am
I'm not sure how it works because he participated in 2 games. I played soccer for AMC and the summer before my senior year I tore a bunch of ligaments in my ankle and didn't play. Because I had a knee injury that cost me my senior year in high school, I told myself I wasn't missing another senior season. As long as I had credits remaining (you obviously still need to be a student), I was granted the extra year. So I purposely came up 3 credits short in the spring, saved the one class for the fall and had a 5th year. But as said, I didn't play at all that first senior season.

And I know it seems weird that I could play only taking one class (normally thats considered part-time) but the coach explained it to me that if it was towards graduation you were eligible. I didn't completely understand lol but I'm assuming what he meant by that is they were the last 3 credits I needed to graduate...I wasn't like a sophomore who just decided for the heck of it to only take one class for a semester.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on November 25, 2013, 10:17:21 am
Unless the rule has changed, Sanders can come back and play next yr. I injured myself prior to my senior yr at albertus, a week before our season started (not bball), but chose to play the last 8-10 games of the yr rather then medically redshirt. Now this was 2007, not sure it has changed since. Also a friend of mine whom I played with broke a foot one week in to his senior yr a few yrs after myself and was allowed to come back the following yr. I guess it all depends on sanders and how many credits he has left. If he's on pace to graduate in the spring he would have to be enrolled in graduate classes to come back. But of course if he's not on pace to walk, I'm pretty sure he will be eligible to play as usual. Again I'm not positive but pretty sure he can. I hope for his sake he is able to come back next yr if he chooses to do so.


Yes I agree, NJC is a question mark at this point based on their competition. I think it's a great game for us to see just how good albertus is as well up until this point
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on November 25, 2013, 10:19:21 am
Lil dave, I'm pretty sure I remember being told it's anywhere from 8-13 games played as far as when your not eligible to come back the following yr. I'm almost positive Sanders can come back
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on November 25, 2013, 10:21:51 am
Scratch that it's a percentage of your games since every sport has different schedules, I believe. And I remember being told my number was 9 games I believed. With the injury coming so early in they te sanders see has not surpassed it
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on November 25, 2013, 10:45:26 am
Thanks for the info guys. Hopefully we get some more chatter on the topic. I also think Julian is probably on pace to graduate this year. I remember reading an article about him an a couple other Albertus players from various sports making the All-Academic team or something of that nature for the GNAC conference. Maybe he should slow down a little and take some time off LOL.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: officer cadet on November 25, 2013, 11:02:25 am
I also wanted to propose this question to the GNAC board because I don’t really know the answer and was hoping to get some clarification.

With the injury that Julian sustained resulting in the end of his senior season, is it possible for him to come back and have the NCAA grant him another year of eligibility. I know the season has already started but with only two games played I thought there was a circumstance that if only X amount of games are played he can be granted another year. This is also assuming he would want to even come back and play another year but let’s just say for arguments sake he does.

I am sure Coach Oliver and even Albertus new athletic director Jim Abromaetis is all over this issue. Jim’s son Tim played for Notre Dame and if anyone here followed the then Big East, it seemed like Tim played for about 8 years at ND. The poor kid went through so much injury wise at ND and was granted extended eligibility from the NCAA.

Is it the same for D3? Is there a silver lining? I just hate to see a kid’s college career end this way.

I will tell to you positive example Former Norwich player Josh Cabrera'13
Cabrera got injured(knee) When he played 7 games in his Sophomore season.
he sat out bench all remain games, finally he granted extra a year play eligible .

I believe Julian get another year play eligible as long as he stay school.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on November 27, 2013, 08:37:04 am
Well that was an absolute track meet. NJC and Rutgers Newark just played one of the most up and down games I have honestly ever seen. (On Video) To be totally honest I was not terrible impressed with either team. I actually thought Rutgers Newark had the better overall team but NJC did a very good job of never letting them get into a rhythm.

Here is my take on NJC: They don’t shoot the ball too well. Especially last night they really struggled with knocking down shots as evident by the score 61-52 and shooting percentages, 19 of 48 from the floor for 39.6%, 3 of 10 from deep and 20 of 29 from the line. They like to run run run and when they got into their offensive sets they didn’t really run their offense to well. They seem to be athletic but there “bigs” are pretty slow and they were in foul trouble the whole night.
There guard Roberson is very quick with the ball and this will be the first real test for Eian Davis. Davis is definitely faster and a more polished player but NJC is pretty long defensively and should be better at defending some of the outstanding assists that Davis has been able to hand out this year. 

I really don’t think there is a player on NJC that can matchup with Darius either. He is too big and strong for their guards and their frontcourt is far too slow. I’d like to see him makes some more moves to this basket in this game instead of settling for threes. I really think he can have his way if he can dribble penetrate to the middle of the floor.

By no means will this be an easy matchup but if Albertus plays together and listen to Coach Oliver and runs their offense I think Albertus wins this game. They are just a far better shooting team and if NJC want to get into a track meet, then that will only further play into Albertus hands.

I also think we might see a press this game and that does worry me a little but I think after the first few minutes of it, we should settle in and handle pretty nicely.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on November 27, 2013, 08:28:57 pm
I believe GNAC is right with the rules to a medical red-shirt; however, it still has to be granted by the NCAA... So, Julian could meet all the requirements and still be declined. It shouldn't happen, however, it could. Julian could also play as a Grad student which will allow him to walk in May, if he so chooses. I think losing him really hurts, but allows Wilson, Wiggins, and Walker an opportunity to step up. If Wiggins or Walker can be consistent shooting the ball, then they can replace Julian's production. I think we lose a lot on the defensive end; haven't seen the new guys play in person yet. But, Julian was a strong defender, he had great feet and was able to take away passing lanes. He also allowed Darius to play a weaker offensive player, not forcing Darius to work to hard on the defensive end.


I really enjoy watching Albertus play strong competition early in the season. I believe it allows the coaching staff the opportunity to work on things during the semester break. Win or lose, I am really excited to play NJC this week. Great analysis by Junkie!  You have me pumped!!! I am going to eat turkey for 4 days, then watch the falcons on Monday!!! WOOOOOO baby!

I am thankful for D3 boards and good falcon fans like you guys.... Happy Thanksgiving boys, see ya at the nest!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on December 01, 2013, 08:46:08 pm
An impressive and solid win for the Falcons this afternoon in NJ. I couldn't attend the game because I had to much going on at home and didn't even get a chance to watch the webcast so I cant give my usual breakdown but just going off the stats it appears my preview of NJCU was correct. They are not a great shooting team. Today they shot 33.8% from the floor 8.3% from 3 (WOOF) and 52.9% from the line. Albertus knocked down 3's all day and Darius really stepped up. Eian Davis shooting stats were not good at all but he managed to dish out another 8 assists. In the end Albertus won the game because of there ability to knockdown shots. Good win, on to the next one!!

If anyone was there or watched the webcast another perspective on the game would be appreciated.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on December 02, 2013, 08:05:20 am
I caught a glimpse of the game midway through the first when AMC was up 6-ish and NJC made the run to take the lead. Can't really give you much detail but the little bit I saw it was certainly a track meet: rebound, find the outlet and go. While Davis didn't shoot well for the game, it was nice to finally "see" him and he's as quick as you guys have been saying. Vic looked good in the little I saw and should be a forced in the usually undersized GNAC.

If you want a better look into the game, check out the recap on NJC's athletics page. Very in-depth, even includes words from their coach.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on December 02, 2013, 11:46:38 am
Thanks LilDave,

Gonna head over to the NJC website now. I always like hearing what opposing coaches have to say about there opponent.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on December 02, 2013, 12:25:53 pm
He doesn't really say much about us, other than no one's ever shot like that against them. You can still watch the game it seems through the Albertus schedule - click on live video and then pick the top video (as of writing this). It's titled NJC Athletics or something like that, not specifically labeled with Albertus or anything.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on December 02, 2013, 10:50:26 pm
First big test of the season for the falcons and they  played solid. When you have a lot of new players it takes 8-10 games to really get into a groove. May take a little longer since Julian is now out for the year and Jennings still isn't 100%. But, with that being said, I am very impressed with this team. I think this might be the most talented team that Oliver has coached at Albertus. The 2011 team was pretty darn good and they had an amazing competitor in Askew. But, this team has everything you want in a college basketball team. A pg who creates open looks for his teammates, a senior stud who can score at will, three guys who can stretch the defense with the outside jumper, and a big man who is athletic, can clean up mistakes with block shots and rebounds.

I don't know how good NJC actually was.. but they were getting votes for top 25 and Albertus just beat them by double digits at their place with an incomplete team and the oil just warming up. Things look very promising.. You hope guys don't take nights off... because this could be a fun season.

Here is my take from the first 4 games (conference games begin this week):

1. Davis is the key to the engine; he is smart and quick. He isn't a great shooter, but can create for his teammates.
2. Watson is a complete player.. he needs to trust his teammates and not force shots  and he will avg close to 30 again
3. Victor L, if he is committed to cleaning the glass, protecting his rim, and getting 8-12 pts a game, watch out!
4. Supporting players:
a. Jennings, can become more selective with his shot, if so, percentage will increase.. also good ball handler
b. Larsen, can concentrate on taking 4-5 shots a game and make 3-4 of them and cleaning the glass
c. Wiggins, Wilson, and Walker - will have plenty of opportunities to score.. Stay confident and take good shots.

Three things I thought Albertus was missing last year -

1. Rebounding.. I think we weak around the glass, seemed like we were outrebounded every game
2. strong guard play - Jackson played excellent at times last year, but we had no depth and Jennings looked like a freshmen at times.
3. We couldn't extend the defense by hitting the outside shot. - this forced Watson to do too much, we had Julian and jimmy eco, but there were times that they didn't shoot. Really hurt against good competition.

I think we improved in all those areas this year.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on December 03, 2013, 10:51:53 am
Just watched the game against NJCU, here is the link for anyone who would like to watch it

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/41285990

Great road win for albertus, this win may go a long way in their regional ranking if NJCU continues to play well all yr. Sloppy game for the most part. Lots of dumb turnovers by albertus, but some that won't happen lot of the time, like the double dribble by Davis with no one around him. IF you look at Davis box score the 2-14 jumps out at you, but watching the film he got Darius and others some wide open looks bc the D has to collapse on his dribble penetration. He is just lightning quick, it is great. Albertus could have won this game by 30, they looked that much better then NJCU. Both teams shot awful at the charity stripe. Larsen went down in the second half, hope it was minor. He's the workhorse. The impressive part is this game was won with no Jennings, who is going to be an integral part of this team. I was most impressed with Albertus D this game. Great perimeter D followed by great interior D, hope thats a sign of things to come.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on December 03, 2013, 11:26:21 am
Great point’s guys. I agree with everything said.

Albertus starts conference play tonight as they travel to Mount Ida. I won’t be at the game but according to the schedule it will be video broadcasted which is nice for those of us who can’t make it up to see the game.

Not much to preview on, I don’t want to sound over confident or anything but Albertus wins this one with ease. Mount Ida simply doesn’t have the horses and they have also lost 4 straight. I wish them luck, but they’re going to need it........Okay, maybe I am a little over confident

As a side note Albertus received 8 votes today in this week’s Top 25. As conference play continues I think they’ll continue to receive votes and as long as they win should crack the Top 25 in a couple weeks. SUNY Purchase, who Albertus plays later on in the season, broke into the Top 25 this week and I can’t wait to watch this game. Thankfully it will be at the NEST!!! There starting center is 7'2. Should be a great contest later in the year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on December 04, 2013, 12:51:00 am
Any reason why the Suffolk/AMC game on Saturday isn't listed as a conference game??  The game @ Suffolk in January is listed as a GNAC.  I assume just a misprint for whoever imputed the schedule??
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on December 04, 2013, 10:36:20 am
7, I am sure it is only a misprint.

Nice win for the Falcons last night. They built up a big half time lead and dominated the game in all areas. I thought they got a little lazy and careless in the 2nd half but there was really no threat or push by Mount Ida so it was a little easier to watch. I hate when they get lazy and turn the ball over but I also realize that it is hard to really stay 100% focused when your blowing a team out.

I can’t say enough about the play of Lemar Larsen. This kid has been great from the beginning of the season and if he continues to give this kind of effort night in and night out I really think this could be a special special year for Albertus. He has finally reached his potential, I think we all saw what he can do over the last couple of season but this year his confidence seems like it’s through the roof and he really is a great player. He’s developed a nice jumper and fade away and continues to impress with the way he can finish around the rim by turning his body and hanging in the air and is also a big time rebounder. This team has so many weapons but so far for me he has been the MVP. For any UConn fans out there he reminds me of Gavin Edwards from a few years back. Underperformed his first couple seasons, confidence down, Coach Calhoun always rode him and then finally his Junior year he really figured it out. Very similar with Lemar and even Oliver. Coach Oliver always pushed Lemar because he knew what kind of player he could become. I think all the hard work and effort by both of them has finally paid off.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on December 04, 2013, 03:42:48 pm
Yes nice win junkie, think we all expected it as you said. Jennings still not playing many mins, but I gotta believe that's injury related, correct???

Edwards is a great comparison. Larsen has always reminded me of Kevin Freeman. Just a bruiser/work horse. Not the flashiest types, just gets it done and cleans up the boards. And you can bet he won't back down against the 7'2 center from purchase. Let's hope everyone is back for the second semester bc this could be a very special yr.

And I just wanna make a quick point, when I was at albertus in 04 the bball team had 7 guys, yes 7 and had even less wins. What Mitch has done with this program is absolutely remarkable, remarkable. I cannot emphasize this enough. I was always at those games bc my boy tommy Russell would light it up in a 30 point defeat, but to think we went from those teams to this is amazing. And the win that started it all was at home against a good trinity team askew fresh yr at the nest. It's been all uphill since and I have gotten spoiled, but what a complete turnaround Mitch has accomplished
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on December 04, 2013, 03:43:41 pm
Stupid iPhone, Timmy* Russell
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on December 05, 2013, 09:19:43 pm
GNACFan, You are absolutely right. What Coach Oliver has done in such little time is truly amazing. I really think that if we took a look around and did some research, the turnaround that this team has made under his leadership and guidance might in fact be almost historic. For the size of this school and with no disrespect the location, its really amazing that he is able to land the quality players that he has. What is even more impressive is that he is able to get them to stay and buy into his system. They listen to him and trust him. I think everyone understands that with him at the helm they can beat any opponent they come across.

Now onto tonight's game. As expected we got the victory over Emmanuel 91 to 71. I'm not going to get into individual stats to much. Just to point out a few, Eian Davis has a much better game 22 points to lead all scorers with 13 ASSISTS, WOWWWW. Darius Watson had 21 points and Victor L had a very impressive game with 20 points and 8 boards. Vic looked unguardable out there, just far to big and his footwork on the low post is really impressive. He is a great finisher around the rim to.

Grinder of the night is Marcus Walker who came off the bench to get 6 points and grab an outstanding 12 rebounds in 26 minutes of work.

To glaring issues for me in tonight's game was #1 the turnovers. Albertus committed 22 with quite a few of them coming on lazy passes or just being carless with the ball. The other which for me is an even bigger issue was the offensive rebounds that Emmanuel was able to get. Emmanuel had 19 offensive rebounds. This can not happen against a quality opponent. No disrespect to Emmanuel but they really didn't capitalize of those second and third chances. Against stiffer competition is the season progresses this might be an issue for the Falcons. I hope it gets corrected because this can really alter the outcome of a close game.

Good win, on to the next one. Home opener this Saturday at the Nest (Finally!!!) 3:00 game against GNAC opponent Suffolk.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on December 06, 2013, 10:53:49 am
Junkie, what Mitch has done is a Disney movie. Struggling program, bads news bears type team, completely turned around by new coach. And B Reaves buzzer beater at William Patterson would be the ending lol

Nice win tonight, caught the broadcast. You took the words right from me junkie, these turnovers are way too high and the offensive boards needs to be corrected too. Now you take the good with the bad, and I think Davis game just being so fast translates in to turnovers. But 22 is too high to expect to have a special season we all are envisioning.


Vic looks like a man amongst boys. Watson was Watson last night. Davis great as well. And man Wiggins can flat out shoot, he'll step back from 27 and hit it. Beating Emmanuel is always a little sweeter for me, since there was a game in Oliver's first yr or second yr at amc against Emmanuel, and Emmanuel had a comfy 25 point lead or so, and to me and a bunch of others it seemed as if Emmanuel was running the score up at the end of the game. I won't get into details but let's just say Emmanuel hasn't beaten albertus since. First home game sat, unfortunately I'll be in Brooklyn. Only one of the semester, kinda sucks but will make albertus better.


Side note, not sure if the emannuel play by play guy is going to see this thread but I just wanna say he did a hell of a job. Sometimes in these play by plays on these streams the play by play guys awkward, and rightfully so with limited experience I'm sure. But this kid/guy last night I thought was absolutely great, so kudos to him
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on December 06, 2013, 01:08:51 pm
GNACFan, Nice shout out to the Emmanuel announcer from last nights game. I thought he was exceptionally good as well.

I love beating Emmanuel. I remember that game you mentioned and like you said since then we haven't lost to them.

I meant to ask you this yesterday in my post GNACFan, How good was Timmy Russel?? I never got to see him play and I've heard nothing but good things about his game. It was just unfortunate that he was on such awful teams. Would he be a starter on say this team? Just curious cause I really don't know anything about him other than he was a scorer?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on December 06, 2013, 01:28:58 pm
Yes that Emmanuel game I remember like it was yday lol. Coach Jackson from Emmanuel was wearing a pink shirt and I had to tell my student section that was in charge of heckling to lay off of him. 10 mins later Jackson stopped the game to have the ref toss me, bc I didn't take to him running the score up lol. Guess I have gotten the last laugh thanks to Mitch lol


Timmy was great! He had no talent around him what so ever, but he could flat out shoot it. Just a pure scorer. Led the nation in scoring for all three divisions his sr yr. he absolutely would start on this team at SG. Thing is Timmy would have to buy into Mitch's system or he would find himself on the bench real quick lol he scored at will, hand in his face he'd still hit the jumper, double team, no problem he'd find a way to score. Now having seen him and Watson both play, and this is me taking my friendship with Timmy out of the equation, Watson is better overall player. Watson drives and gets to the rim much much better. But Timmy def would give Watson a run for his money in a shooting contest. Me and Timmy were at the William Patterson game a few yrs ago, a bunch of us drove down, and I remember him saying he wishes he was able to play for Mitch. If he were on this team and he bought in, and again he def was a gunner but it's all he knew bc we had guys from the baseball team on our bball team for conditioning his sr yr lol, it would be absolutely lethal. We would avg 100 a game lol
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on December 06, 2013, 01:34:31 pm
And to add to that, I may be underselling Timmy bc it's been 8 yrs since I've seen him play, but let me just say he put up 64 on Mitchell at the nest on all jumpers and double teams lol no grinnell system
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on December 06, 2013, 11:07:26 pm
Wow he sounds like an unbelievable talent. I really wish I got to see him play now. I wish more past players would come out and watch some of the games. I am sure that most of them would say they would love to play for Coach Oliver. The offensive sets they run and even the inbounds plays are all designed and practiced to perfection. Each one is designed to get an open shot and I can only imagine how intense there practices at the Nest are.  I'm am sure that they are nothing like a typical D3 practice. Coach Oliver demands the best out of his players and that why they are successful. I am glad he is here but I have to imagine that eventually he is going to get an offer at a higher division. Whether it be D2 or D1, between the turn around here at Albertus and his past D1 coaching experience at Quinnipiac and Sacred Heart he is clearly more than qualified to land a higher profile job. (I sure hope he stays though LOL, Selfishly of course, These games are just too convenient and to fun to watch)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on December 06, 2013, 11:22:14 pm
WOW... GNAC and Junkie, you guys are getting me hyped!!! Too bad next game is in 3 weeks. lol...

I couldn't agree more on all your points - from how impressive Mitch Oliver has been to the turn over issues. I want to see these team in a dog fight, 5 minutes left soon. I think that this team has not hit full potential. I think Jennings is not 100% and Mitch is not rushing him back. I think he can afford to make sure he is healthy and get him slowly back into the rotation. He may not get back into the starting rotation, but we should see him getting 18-22 mins by late January.

I can't wait to see them live...  Purchase top 25 now, can't wait to see this center.. He might not be 7'2.. sometimes they lie on rosters... lol.. but, good non conference contest.

one more thing on Mitch, he is only full time coach on staff. he basically does most of the recruitment as well... So impressive.

As for Timmy, he can flat out shoot. If he was on this team, Davis would hit him soo many times. Defenses would not know what to do.. You either double Watson or Timmy.. WOW.. Davis would have 15+ assist every game.. Timmy and Watson could shoot lights out.. just a nightmare for defenses.. I do agree with GNAC, Watson better all around player but Timmy best shooter in Albertus history.

Let's go Falcons!!

PS. 7, just a typo.. It's a conference game on Saturday.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: amh63 on December 07, 2013, 04:10:47 pm
Just to let the posters on this board know......Emerson beat Amherst this afternoon 90-79 at Emerson.  Heard that Emerson was ranked last in the pre-season in the GNAC.  Watch out members....Emerson has beat two teams in the NESCAC that were ranked in the upper tier in the pre-season.  FYI, Amherst was ranked no. 1 in the country and the defending Nat. title holder in Div3.....and was on a 29 game winning streak.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: gordonmann on December 07, 2013, 04:53:30 pm
I think Emerson is in the NEWMAC this season. That should be a fun race with WPI, Springfield, etc.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on December 07, 2013, 07:28:22 pm
They are in the NEWMAC this season. As a GNAC fan I wish they were still in the conference but unfortunately they made a move that they felt was necessary. Jim O'Brien is the head coach who as some will know is the former head coach at Ohio State where he guided his team to a Final Four.  He brought in quite a few recruits last year and I am certain that this team will be a NEWMAC contender year in and year out as long as he is the head coach there. Congrats to Emerson on a tremendous win.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: amh63 on December 07, 2013, 07:44:05 pm
Gordonmann...and et al......thanks for the correction.  I had posted my short comment on the NEWMAC board first....thought about it and read some OLD posts on this board and made the "correction" which now needs to be corrected again.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on December 09, 2013, 12:38:20 pm
Gordonmann...and et al......thanks for the correction.  I had posted my short comment on the NEWMAC board first....thought about it and read some OLD posts on this board and made the "correction" which now needs to be corrected again.

Hey Amh,

You are always welcomed in the GNAC thread. You bring a good perspective and insights from the other conferences in the region. Great win by Emerson, sad to see them leave last spring. But, I can understand the move. It would have been fun to play against the Jim O'Brien teams over the years. It would have also brought a little more credibility to the GNAC.


Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on December 11, 2013, 11:25:44 am
Just noticed Eian Davis is 2nd in the country for Assists Per Game with 9 and Vic is 2nd for Blocks Per Game at just over 4! Good stuff! Can't wait until after the layoff...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on December 20, 2013, 03:04:54 pm
Albertus up to 31 in the rankings.. They don't play another D3 opponent until January 7. So I don't expect to see much movement in the polls for Albertus until mid January. Unless they lost a conference game before then. Or shock everyone with a victory in New Britain against CCSU (highly unlikely that happens).

They may be a big showdown with SUNY Purchase on January 27. If Albertus remains unbeaten at home prior to this game, they will be carrying a 32 home court win streak vs the currently ranked 23 team in the country.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Saint-Paul on December 23, 2013, 09:00:38 am
I was really hoping that my Emmanuel Saints would turn things around this year and make a run for the third or fourth spot in the conference playoffs, but after the first eight games my hopes are starting to fade.  Things are going exactly in the same direction as last year.   The Saints stand at 1 – 7, the exact same record as this time last year. I went to the tip off tournament in November expecting to see a returning lineup of experienced, veteran players with a big front line and a GNAC tested back court. It took less than two minutes into the first game of the season to realize that I didn’t recognize ONE player on the court. All five players were brand new. I had to go out to the lobby to get a program to find out the names of the players wearing a Saints uniform.  The big front line that I was expecting to see were all gone, not even on the roster.  The experienced senior backcourt were still on the roster but buried deep on the bench.  There are ten new faces on the roster this year.   This is the third straight year that the roster has had more than a 70% makeover, and I was really caught by surprise to see so many  new players again this year.  I spent the better part of last season learning the names of  the seven new players on last year’s team, and now six of those seven players from last year are no longer on the team.   This year I was hoping to see some growth and development  from the players who were in the starting line up on last year’s team, especially the big men who would have all been upperclassmen this year, but they are all gone. If you are not Kentucky or Kansas how do you lose all the returning players from your previous year’s starting lineup?  I guess that player development, teamwork, and good court chemistry take time to happen and constant roster changes make that difficult.  Eleven different players have been in the starting lineup so far this year and they have only played eight games.  To have multiple rebuilding years really hurts program continuity.   

     I was hoping to see an improvement in the three key areas that hurt the team last year, transition defense, 3 point shooting percentage,  and turnovers. Well, graduation really did help the turnover numbers, turnovers are down by an average of five per game with the new lineup.  However,   transition defense that has trouble containing driving lanes, and 3 point shooting percentage are still problems .  A new problem this year is shot selection, quick shots off the first pass in the front court, and lots of three point attempts not by offensive design that lead to opponents run outs and easy baskets at the other end of the court.  Why is it so difficult to have two or three ball reversals before looking for an open shot ?  If you have players with slasher / driver skill sets on the court why are you jacking up 16 – 19 three point shots per game?   The faces have changed but the results are the same.   Hopefully, all the new players will learn to play together quickly and they will get some better ball movement into their offensive possessions.  The second semester has to be better than the first.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on December 23, 2013, 11:02:52 pm
Paul,

Good insights from the Saints.. Where did the guys from last year go? Did they all transfer out? I know that many of the players from the previous teams were from out of state. But, it should be alarming to have so many new faces over the course of 3 years; especially in a weak conference and not getting to the semi-finals of the conference in at least 4 years.

What are your thoughts?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Saint-Paul on December 26, 2013, 03:17:47 pm
pjunito,  thank you for your reply and also for your questions.

    As far as last year's Saints team is concerned, to the best of my knowledge six of the seven recruited freshman quit the team and at least four of them transferred out of the school.  One junior, a center in the starting line up, quit the team after the 18 th game of the season. He was averaging 28 min per game and getting 14 & 8 per night.  He is still in school as a senior this year but not on the team.  Another junior guard quit the team after the  first game of the season but later returned and is currently sitting the bench as a senior. The junior center who quit left a big hole in the middle of the paint. He was shooting 56% from the field and clogging driving lanes at the defensive end of the court.  He presented a real low post threat and could draw double teams from the perimeter creating shot opportunities for other players. If the Saints had an athletic post player on the team this year who could score, rebound, and shoot 56%, I am sure that their record would not be 1 - 7.  I can think of at least 3 or 4 games they played so far this year where a post presence would have made a difference in the outcome.  Unfortunately, in the last four years this large volume of roster defections is the norm, not the exception. As a fan and an avid spectator I feel cheated not getting to watch incoming freshman grow and develop their skill sets.  The best part about watching college basketball is following the development of players thoughout their careers.  It is very satisfying as a fan to see timid freshman, afraid to shoot the ball,  mature into team leaders who make clutch baskets, pressure free throws, big defensive stops, and are suddenly willing to step in and take charging fouls to save a game. The growth and development aspect of the Saints program has been missing for at least four years now.

    As far as this year's team is concerned,  I think that the best game the Saints played so far was the 2 point loss to Emerson.  They played better in the loss to Emerson than they did in their one win over Westfield State.  In the Emerson game they only attempted 5 three point shots in the whole game, and ended up with 14 assists on 22 field goals, a very good ratio which shows that they were really moving the ball.  By limiting their three point attempts and  moving the ball better they got higher percentage shots, which really helped since they don’t really have a pure shooter or a good three point shooter on the team.  Moving the ball slowed the game down and kept Emerson from getting easy run outs. It helped keep them in the game and all they needed was one more defensive stop to beat Emerson.

     I did not think that they played that well in their win over  Westfield State.  Westfield showed an even worse shot selection ( 38 3’s attempted ) than the Saints ( only 10  3’s attempted ) and compounded it by giving the Saints 45 free throws.  The Saints won by 8 points and scored 35 points from the free throw line, a gift from Westfield.  All the 3 point attempts by Westfield gave the Saints easy run outs at the other end of the court and made their shot selection much better than if they had to run their set offense.  A gift , but the saying goes in basketball " any win is a good win." We will take it.

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on December 29, 2013, 01:44:31 am
Welcome to the Board Saint Paul, its great getting some insight from another team in the conference.

Its the night before the big game for the Falcons as they travel to D1 Central CT tomorrow to take on the Devils in a 1PM contest.

I am sure that the team will be in high spirits as well they should be. This is a great opportunity for Albertus to come out play extremely loose and have a ton of fun. From a fans perspective I need to be realistic and know that deep down this is going to be a very tough matchup for the Falcons. (Notice how I didn't use the L word there, I just cant do it)

Central is going to be ready and wanting to lay a beat down on a lower Division team after a rough start to there own season. For Albertus, if they can come out and knock down some three pointers and limit the second chance points for Central I really feel like they can stay in the game for a while. Ultimately the strength and size of Central will be the key factor in this game.

I still honestly believe that there isn't a player on Central capable of checking Darius as there guards are actually a little to small and there bigs are almost to big and slow. At 6-5 Darius is one of those in between players for his position that makes for an extremely tough matchup because of his ability to knock down 3's and at the same time take you right to the hole.

I also think that guard Eian Davis is more than capable of holding his own but as I mentioned earlier the interior and second chance points will be tough to stop for the Falcons. I just hope they come out and play there game and give the Devils a little scare before the New Years. Ultimately I think anything under 25 points would be an outstanding showing for the Falcons and I think they are more than capable of doing so
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on December 29, 2013, 06:46:46 pm
I cant begin to put into words what an effort the Albertus Falcons gave today in a tough tough loss to Division 1 Central CT State University. Final Score Central 85 Albertus 82. That is no typo there folks, just an outstanding performance overall from everybody on the team. Darius Watson was outstanding and Victor L looked like a monster out there against these D1 players.

Ill be the first one to admit that my prediction was completely off and I couldn't be happier. I thought Albertus needed to make a lot of outside shots to stay in the game and in actuality we had one of our worst performances from three on the year and actually outscored a much bigger Central team in the paint. Not only that but we OUTREBOUNDED them too. I really couldn't believe it. Central Coach Howie Dickenman,(who is a tremendous coach and has been a great leader of the Central program for many years) looked almost shocked on the sidelines and at some points just didn't know what to do. Coach Oliver coached his ass off. I was sitting on the opposite side of the benches but I could just tell in the huddles that the team was listening to Oliver and really believed they could win the game.

I'm not going to go through individual stats because you can all do that on your own but James Jennings hit a clutch 3 pointer to put the Falcons ahead with under a minute to go but unfortunately on the other end they had a defensive let down and allowed Central to drive right to the hoop and retake the lead. In the end Albertus wasn't able to get off a clean look at the hoop and the game came to completion.

This might result in a Loss on the schedule but by no means was this a Loss for the Albertus Magnus Program. Just a great game and a game that at the end of the season we can look back at and say that it was a special moment. And maybe now the New Haven Register or CT Post will start giving the Falcons a little love as the season goes on because everybody knows they have earned it.

Also I've never been one to look into the top 25 rankings, I never really thought they meant much but if the Falcons aren't in the Top 25 this week after this game then I really will not pay attention to them at all anymore because its a total waste.

Hats off to the Falcons and Coach Oliver. This is going to be a special year. Lets keep it going!!!!!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on December 29, 2013, 07:47:00 pm
Paul,

Sounds like there might be an issue at Emmanuel. You can't lose that many freshmen without their being an issue. Either the coach did some poor recruiting or the players didn't want to play for him anymore. I think the GNAC would get so much more respect if we have Emmanuel and Lasell playing the way they did 6 years ago. I hope things turn around up there, I remember how frustrating it was to see Albertus struggle.

Keep us informed on how things shape up.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on December 29, 2013, 08:14:04 pm
Junkie,

After the first game of the year, a guy I respect told me this is the most talented team under Oliver and probably most talented ever at Albertus. Talent doesn't always mean the team will win, however. I believe it takes most teams 8-10 games to gel and find themselves; especially when you have new pieces. Well, after 8 games, I am impressed. The stats don't tell the whole story. Albertus was down for most of the game and down between 8 and 12. But, they never stopped fighting. Victor L was very impressive, if he plays like that the rest of the year. He will be first team GNAC. The played tough the entire game and was the better team the final 5 minutes of the game. This team could be a special one, still a lot of season left. But, if they play together and hard on the boards (something they've lacked since Askew graduated) they will be a tough out. I am also impressed with Jennings, he isn't afraid to have the ball in his hands. I think that will serve Albertus well as they play strong competition.

The Top 25 is a wonderful accomplishment for the team and also the school. A good recruiting tool also. But, I agree with you in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter. Albertus, if they continue to win, will crack the top 25, but I prefer for them to make a good run in the tournament this year and get more respect at the National and Regional levels.

Let's enjoy the next week and come back and root for the falcons second semester.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on December 29, 2013, 08:45:40 pm
Junkie, pjunito,

Excellent posts as usual. I didn't have a chance to see the game today, some personal matters came up and totally missed the game. I can't tell you how proud I was to read the final score. This is Howie Dickenmann, the guy who almost upset Marcus Fizer/Jamal Tinsley Iowa st team led by Larry eustachy in the 99 ncaa tourney. But little albertus marches in to new Britain and took some shots early in the game, but never went down. A total confidence booster for this team. Victor can clearly be a mid major d1 player, as well as Watson and Davis being scholarship players at some school as well. But they are at albertus and what a trio they make.  I can't wait to see this team in person again since I only have seen them at Mitchell. Pjunito, whoever that guy was that told you that clearly was on point. I don't see any team competing with albertus in the gnac. I actually wish that weren't the case but albertus has completely taken their game to another level no team in the gnac has gone. I'll stop there. In the words of bill Simmons, "yea I'm a big time homer, but you have to admit I just made some pretty freaking good points." Go falcons
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 01, 2014, 04:04:58 pm
I emailed the new haven register editor, it's a sham they had no mention of this game. Meanwhile i found a yahoo article on the game. How's that work? Lol

Found this too

http://www.ccsufans.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2755
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 02, 2014, 09:27:21 am
Haha reading the CCSU thread certainly made this "going back to work after New Year's" feeling a little better!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 03, 2014, 04:24:54 pm
I emailed the new haven register editor, it's a sham they had no mention of this game. Meanwhile i found a yahoo article on the game. How's that work? Lol

Found this too

http://www.ccsufans.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2755

I feel for those guys... I hope there are no bridges in New Britain..
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 04, 2014, 10:26:59 am
http://sportzedge.com/2014/01/03/albertus-magnus-mens-basketball-making-big-time-noise/
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Saint-Paul on January 04, 2014, 02:03:43 pm
The Saints return from semester break facing two difficult games.

1 -  On Sunday to play an NAIA school Fisher College.  Not under NCAA rules Fisher is able to start their season early and already has played 15 games, going 7 - 8.  They play a mixed schedule of NCAA D-3 schools along with some NAIA schools.  They have lost to Colby, Emerson, and Endicott but have beaten Framingham State. They are not big in size but they have three very athletic wings that play above rim level ( 5'10, 6'3', 6'3", 6'3", 6'6" )  .  One of the wings , Shuler, is a prolific scorer.  This is going to be a tough game for the Saints.  The athletic Fisher wings are going to give the Saints transition defense trouble.  I hope that the Saints do not try to run with Fisher, pack in there defense and try to clog the lane  to limit the athletic wings getting to the rim.  Fisher is not a great outside shooting team but because of their transition layups they shoot a high percentage for the game.  I really think that the Saints need to start two of their experienced senior guards instead of the inexperienced freshman in order to handle the Fisher defensive pressure. For the first game back after a long break this will be a difficult game.

2  -  On Tuesday it is back to conference play against a very athletic J & W team.  J & W has a big front line, 6'5", 6'6", 6'7", not just big but also long and athletic.  This is going to give the Saints trouble in the paint where they are not very big or experienced.  J & W also has two high scoring guards who don't force shots but only take what is available.  The guards don't jack up 3's, they move the ball and know how to finish around the rim, especially Greenaway who must be contained if the Saints hope to stay in this game.  Again, I hope that the Saints don't try to full court press this team, especially with inexperienced freshman guards.  I would like to see the Saints pack in their defense below the arc and force J & W out of their comfort area and into shooting a lot of 3's.

Side Note : this has nothing to do with Tuesday's game but I thought that it was very funny that back in December J & W played in the national J & W tournament where every team in the tournament is named Johnson & Wales.  Must have been an announcers nightmare.

Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 04, 2014, 05:00:40 pm
GNAC, great video... Watson is the only senior who plays.. wow..

Paul, JWU has four campuses throughout the nation. I had no idea they played this tournament until this year. I wonder if they all have the same nickname?

Also, it is all about the conference games now. I am not sure any GNAC team can get an at large bid. Let me know how JWU looks, they are usually top 4 in conference. They suffered a lost at St. Joe's, and beat up on Anna Maria. I really want to see how this team looks.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: sac on January 04, 2014, 05:06:34 pm
GNAC, great video... Watson is the only senior who plays.. wow..

Paul, JWU has four campuses throughout the nation. I had no idea they played this tournament until this year. I wonder if they all have the same nickname?

Also, it is all about the conference games now. I am not sure any GNAC team can get an at large bid. Let me know how JWU looks, they are usually top 4 in conference. They suffered a lost at St. Joe's, and beat up on Anna Maria. I really want to see how this team looks.

Yes, they are all known as the Wildcats.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 04, 2014, 11:55:16 pm
Thanks Sac.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Saint-Paul on January 06, 2014, 03:22:30 pm
The Saints pull out a surprise win over Fisher College on Sunday, 82 - 76.  Two of the Saints guards combined for 46 of the 82 points. The Saints guards have not played that well all year, this is the first time both guards reached double figures in the same game. It will be interesting to see if they can sustain that momentum on Tuesday against a very athletic J&W team.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 06, 2014, 04:15:48 pm
Paul,

Was that the two starting guards who scored 50% of the points, or all guards?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 06, 2014, 04:36:51 pm
Thanks to Titan Q for posting this on the top 25 thread.


Updated Massey...

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cb2014&sub=11620


Albertus is number 19.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Saint-Paul on January 06, 2014, 04:40:50 pm
one starter and one sub, but the first time both had a good game at the same time.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on January 06, 2014, 07:43:56 pm
J&W had a nice win against RIC the other day.  The 85 points J&W put up, was the highest RIC has allowed in almost 2 years since January 14 of 2012 when Keene State (with Ryan Martin, Rashard Wright, etc) scored 92 on them.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on January 07, 2014, 11:24:59 am
Thanks for the video link on the Falcons GNAC, I saw it on the news a couple days later but its nice to check it out again. Awesome updates on Emmanuel Saint-Paul, again its great getting another perspective here on the GNAC board and your insight is very informative. Keep them coming!!! Titan Q and PJ, that's an awesome link on the Massey rankings. I've never seen that site before and it certainly gives an interesting take on the ranking. The Falcons sit just outside the D3Hoops Top 25 and I would imagine if they have a 3 and 0 week which I suspect they will, that they will be in the Top 25 next week. With a favorable matchup tonight against Norwich and a game on Thursday against what I believe is an improved Rivier squad followed by the Suffolk game Saturday afternoon in Boston, I really like the Falcons odds at going 3-0 this week.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: ECSUalum on January 07, 2014, 11:47:33 am
I emailed the new haven register editor, it's a sham they had no mention of this game. Meanwhile i found a yahoo article on the game. How's that work? Lol

Found this too

http://www.ccsufans.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2755

I feel for those guys... I hope there are no bridges in New Britain..

Belated congrats to Albertus Magnus on a fine game vs CCSU. Wish them luck through the rest of the season!!  Channel 8  (WTNH I think), had a couple of nice clips of the game and interviews with AM players, which was finally nice to see vs all the publicity UConn gets every day on Connecticut Sports channels ???
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 07, 2014, 01:11:55 pm
Thanks ECSU! It's def a nice switch up, especially after that 0-2 uconn road trip to Texas lol

Falcons at home tonight against Norwich, finally a home game! Lol

Junkie let's hope, would be great if we go into Purchase game both undefeated in D3, which will be a top 25 matchup at the nest if so. First time two top 25's would be squaring off at amc!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 07, 2014, 03:54:45 pm
I emailed the new haven register editor, it's a sham they had no mention of this game. Meanwhile i found a yahoo article on the game. How's that work? Lol

Found this too

http://www.ccsufans.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2755

I feel for those guys... I hope there are no bridges in New Britain..

Belated congrats to Albertus Magnus on a fine game vs CCSU. Wish them luck through the rest of the season!!  Channel 8  (WTNH I think), had a couple of nice clips of the game and interviews with AM players, which was finally nice to see vs all the publicity UConn gets every day on Connecticut Sports channels ???

ECSU - tough games in Florida for East Conn over the break. But, I am a firm believer that trips like that make teams better in February and March. Hope they have a successful conference season. It is good to see ya in the GNAC boards. I am always in the little east boards, but don't really know a lot about those schools or players or coaches to comment. You and 7 (or as I like to call him Jimmy the 7) always give great insights.

Wait, are you saying that the State of Connecticut has more than 3 institutions of higher learning? Go on now...

Hopefully East Conn, West Conn, and Albertus will continue to get more media attention as the season progresses.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 07, 2014, 03:55:41 pm
GNAC... All I did was copy and paste. All the credit goes to Titan.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 07, 2014, 06:37:31 pm
WTNH is at the game
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 07, 2014, 07:46:22 pm
46-35 albertus at half over Norwich. Falcons came out flat and took some bad shots. Then turned up a bit with about 6 mins left. Here's a 45 second sequence of the 6'8 juco transfer Victor Ldujaja(that the right spelling lol?). Steps back and hits a three, next possession put back dunk, next possession amc turns it over, fast break 2 Norwich guys and just Vic, and he blocks the shot to about the third row
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 07, 2014, 09:26:14 pm
Albertus wins 97-85, as Norwich hits a three at buzzer to make it look respectable. Lackluster performance by amc, they were in control all game and never in danger but they took bad shots and went in spurts. Credit the cadets for hitting some shots of their own and playing to the last second. Albertus can't play like this against the like of purchase or JWU. Anyone see that JWU Emmanuel score?? Jeez anyone have any insight lol that's a big differential
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Saint-Paul on January 08, 2014, 09:04:57 am
Final Score :  J & W  94 -  Emmanuel  36

     After the first 6 minutes this game was not very competitive.  J&W used an aggressive man to man defense to force turnovers and hurried shots to go on a 31 - 9 run to close the first half with a 26 point lead.  The second half was mostly substitutions and one pass shots not by offensive design.  The J & W lead reached 60 points at one spot late in the second half.  The Saints looked like a JV team playing against a varsity, finishing the night with  26 turnovers.
     J&W put 5 athletic players on the court who defended passing lanes very well, rebounded the ball, and got out in transition to finish plays at the rim.  They have a 6'7" big man who can step out to 21 feet and shoot 3's. The guard Greenaway is the real deal, he is quick, can both shoot and drive to the basket and defends all over the court. J&W has a deep rotation, they can go 8 players deep and not lose momentum.  They play very unselfish, they move the ball and don't force shots, they can score against both zone and man defenses. The only negative that I saw was closing out shooters off the skip pass.  They were late recovering from a help position and closed out with their hands down giving up too many open 3 point looks. Against a better team those 3 point shots may hurt them.  Other than that they looked to be a very solid team that has active hands on defense, use defensive stops to generate transition, and very patiently runs their half court sets. 

The score of the J&W game was not the big story on Tuesday night. The big story was more Saints roster changes again.  Two more players have left the team. That makes a total of three so far this year. Their leading scorer and rebounder from the first semester is no longer listed on the roster.  This is the second year in a row the Saints starting center and leading scorer / rebounder has left the team in the middle of the season.  He was not a recruited freshman, only a junior college transfer so he was only part of the program for eight games, but still, it's another player who didn't finish the season. The second player who left the team was a bit of a shock, the Saints senior point guard and team captain who has played over 75 career games for the Saints is no longer on the roster.  For a senior captain who has been through 54 GNAC games to quit the team 15 games shy of senior night is an indication that something is very wrong in the Saints program. There is a real cancer somewhere in the Saints program. This now makes 28 players who have quit the Saints basketball program in the last five seasons.  That's an average of 5.6 players per year and I find that alarming. I can't be the only Saints fan to notice the constant roster changes. I would assume that when so many uniforms and warm ups are returned to the equipment room each year that somebody takes notice.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 08, 2014, 09:39:04 am
GNAC I agree with you, Albertus needs to remain focus for a full 40 minutes. At home against a weaker opponent they need to be able to control the game. Interesting to see how they respond on the road against an improved  Rivier team on Thursday. And they have Suffolk on Saturday in Boston.. Albertus lost there last year and beat them this year at home by 30. I hope they don't take that game lightly.

Will love to see how Albertus plays against JWU, Lasell, and St. Joes. These teams are all very solid in the GNAC. Having strong out of conference within region wins.



St. Paul - wow.. You are right. Something is going on. Do you know if the Center failed off the team? The senior captain quitting is a big sign. The AD there has to be concerned. Whenever a D3 tuition driven institution begins to lose student-athletes mid year, it hurts the budget. You can't have 28 students leave in a 5 year span without an investigation. I hope the AD there is conducting one. If not, he needs to. Something is going on and I hope it gets fixed. I remember Emmanuel being a very good basketball team within the region in the early 2000s and their women program has received national recognition for the better part of 10 years. A 50 point lost at home has to bring huge sirens!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 08, 2014, 09:50:38 am
Last Night Games:

Rivier 62    Mount Ida 42    
      
  Lasell 82    Keene St. 68       
      
  Anna Maria 71    Suffolk 74       
      
 Norwich 85    Albertus Magnus 97       
      
  Johnson & Wales (RI) 94    Emmanuel 36    

Huge win by Lasell last night. Keene may not be a good basketball team this year, I have no idea. But, whenever a GNAC team beats a Little East team, the region begins looking closer at the conference. I think that helps the conference, since it has been very weak top to bottom over the last 6 years.

The GNAC is now 3-2 versus the little east this year.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Saint-Paul on January 08, 2014, 11:02:58 am
pjunito,  thanks for your reply and also for your questions.

I have no idea what factor is responsible for driving so many players out of the Saints program.  It cannot just be the wins and losses, other GNAC teams also have sub 0.500 records and they are not losing players at this pace. It has to be something more than just losing games, like the way the players are being treated in practice or what is being said to them at halftime and after games. To continually berate and degrade your own players perpetuates a losing atmosphere and takes a toll on the players moral. A lack of encouragement and positive support can hurt players more than the final score of the games. 

Whatever the reason is, it also affects their play on the court.  What I can see when observing a game is that the players do not appear to be running the plays as they are designed.  They take quick shots in transition, often from behind the three point line, they ignore the low post even if the post player has the defender sealed on his hip, the extra pass to the weak side corner never gets made, and they love to drive into defensive traffic and force up a shot even with one or sometimes two open teammates on the blocks.  What I really notice is that after a quick shot is missed, there does not appear to be any sense of urgency to sprint back on defense and defend the paint. That in itself is a huge red flag. When players stop sprinting back on defense you know that something is very wrong on that team. Not sprinting back on defense is a sign that the players don't care about winning, they are only playing for their individual stats. The players just don't exhibit good team chemistry that I see in some of the other GNAC teams.  That is a real concern.  Whatever factor is causing so many players to quit the team is also affecting how they play together as a team.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 08, 2014, 12:30:28 pm
Wow it sounds like a mess up there in Emmanuel, thanks for the insight. That rate is def alarming to say the least. And to me, and not to take a shot, but it all starts at the top and coach Jackson. Maybe it's time for a change
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Saint-Paul on January 09, 2014, 08:54:22 am
Mt Ida / Emmanuel preview -  When these two teams played in December it was a fairly even game at four positions except for the Mt Ida two guard who kept getting open from behind the arc. He nailed two big 3 point shots in the last five minutes of the game to swing the momentum to the Mustangs.  If the Saints guards can locate the Mt Ida shooters at the defensive end of the floor and chase them off the arc this should be a two point or overtime game. Neither team has a standout player, or dominates in the paint so it should be a competitive game. I would be surprised if either team is able to run away with this game.  I hope that the Saints are able to shake off a 60 point drubbing in their last game and come out with some intensity and effort especially at the defensive end of the floor. This is the Saints chance to get their first GNAC win of the season.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 09, 2014, 07:57:17 pm
Albertus 44 Rivier 34 at half in New Hampshire. Albertus shooting ball well from behind the arc, but Rivier is getting to the basketball.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 09, 2014, 08:15:54 pm
Looks like albertus is playing Rivier and the refs. Refs are calling albertus if they cough when riv has ball. Sorry don't wanna be that guy but it's an absolute joke
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 09, 2014, 09:29:21 pm
Albertus wins 93 - 82 at Rivier. The game changed when Oliver called a time-out with about 7 minutes left. The score was 79-71, Rivier was on a run to cut a 15 point lead to 8. Albertus applied a tough man to man pressed and scored 5 points in 40 seconds. They pushed the lead back to 15 and coasted from there.

Lot of questionable foul calls in the game, both ways, but Riv was in the bonus 6 minutes into the half.

Albertus plays at Suffolk on Saturday.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 10, 2014, 09:24:44 am
Any news on Marc Wilson? Haven't been able to catch much of the action, but I did see him in the Central game (16 minutes). Then he only played 9 against Norwich, and wasn't even listed in the box score for last night's game. Perhaps an injury? I know AMC is always good for a player or two leaving the roster after the break, but he was there for CCSU and Norwich so that's not it.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Saint-Paul on January 10, 2014, 10:26:15 am
Final Score :  Mt IDA  55 -  EMMANUEL  48

    What can I say about this game.  It looked like TWO JV teams playing each other.  The game summary can be captured in three items; poor shooting, fouls, and turnovers.  The Saints finish the game with only 13 field goals on 25% shooting.  The Mustangs were not much better finishing with 15 field goals on 35% shooting.  Both team combined for 31 turnovers and 54 free throws.  Not a pleasant basketball viewing experience. The Saints never seem to recruit any players who could be classified as a  " pure " shooter. They always recruit the driver / slasher type player but then they always end up settling for a lot of outside jump shots.  Don't understand that strategy.  If you are going to bring in junior college transfers to fill up all the empty uniforms at least bring in the ones who can shoot the ball.

Preview :  Norwich / Emmanuel

     Both teams have exactly the same record, 2 - 9,  but Norwich has played much better in their 9 losses.  They do not get blown out, they hang tough, and play close games even with some very good teams.  Norwich has two high scoring guards in McDonald and Gladden, and have a very athletic forward in Tullar.  The Saints struggle with teams that have guards who can make 3 point shots.  They don't close out very well, and their constant full court pressing gives up open 3 point looks in transition.  One of these two teams will get their first GNAC win on Saturday and if the Saints want to be that team they will have to turn up their defense on the Cadets guards and chase them off the arc.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 10, 2014, 05:26:57 pm
Results from Thursday's games:

Emmanuel 48    Mount Ida 55    Final   
      
Saint Joseph's (Me.) 51    Norwich 50    Final   
      
Suffolk 61    Johnson & Wales (RI) 86    Final   
      
Albertus Magnus 93    Rivier 82    Final   
      
Anna Maria 65    Lasell 96    Final   

No real surprises here; Norwich almost pulled an upset against St. Joes. Norwich is a solid team, but they don't have a lot of depth. They need to keep their starting 5 on the court to have a chance and they were able to do that against St. Joes. I know Lasell is much improved but I am shocked at the score. Anna Maria does not look like the same team that went to back to back championship games..

Here is Saturday's schedule:

Rivier  at Johnson & Wales (RI) 1:00 PM   
      
Saint Joseph's (Me.) at Anna Maria 3:00 PM
      
Norwich at Emmanuel 3:00 PM   
      
Albertus Magnus at Suffolk 3:00 PM   
      
Mount Ida at Lasell 3:00 PM   


Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: gordonmann on January 10, 2014, 05:35:11 pm
In your opinion, who is the second best team in this conference behind Albertus Magnus?  If I'm looking for the biggest test in conference, which game(s) is it?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 10, 2014, 07:34:13 pm
Gordon,

I cannot say that I have seen all the teams play, but I do check on how they are doing. And to me, it's Johnson and Wales followed by Lasell, in my opinion
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on January 11, 2014, 12:56:49 pm
GNAC,

I agree with you on Johnson and Whales. I beleive they are clearly a top 3 team. I am however suprised you didnt include St. Joes over Lasell for yout assesment to Gordon. Im guessing its because maybe you havent seen them play yet?? I beleive that St Joes and JWU are right there with one and other in terms of the race for 2nd place. I beleive that St. Joes Head Coach Rob Sanicolla is hands down one of the best coaches in the league and really prepares his teams well for big games.

For me Gordon I would have JWU (because of there athleticism) St Joes and then Lassel.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 11, 2014, 01:45:39 pm
Junkie,

I have no argument there. I haven't seen them play, but I saw they beat Norwich by 1, which to me seems they should win by at least 7 points or higher to be a top 3 team. I saw Norwich and they are a young undersized team, so I would think st joes would have beaten them by more. But could have been an off night, so I'm in no disagreeance. That coach is a great coach I agree. Lasell coach has also done a great job himself. Time will tell!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on January 11, 2014, 02:20:55 pm
Absolutley GNAC, Couldnt agree more. Just proposed the question to you to stir up a little healthy conversation. I think we should do a little more debating here with each other even if it is all about Albertus LOL, and are newest poster Saint Paul who brings an excellent perspective on the Emmanuel Saints.

Falcons at Suffolk in a couple hours. I wont be there but Albertus handed them a pretty rough loss earlier in the season at the Nest. As long as they stay out of foul trouble and play there game they should roll.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 11, 2014, 03:39:53 pm
I've watched about 10 minutes of this first half and it's clear to see...Eian Davis is a huge fan of the Rondo behind the back fake haha
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 11, 2014, 03:46:35 pm
AMC up 45-33 at the half. Some lackluster transition D by Albertus led to some easy buckets for Suffolk. As I admitted in a previous post, I haven't watched too much but it seems like Vic could get whatever he wants (especially against this team) but they don't really run anything through him. All his offensive production seems to be 2nd chance or dump offs under the hoop. Just an aberration this half or is it like that all the time?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on January 11, 2014, 03:52:57 pm
I totally forgot that Suffolk provided a live stream of the game. I just caught the last minute of the 1st half and will definitely be watching the 2nd. At the half Albertus leads 45 to 33. Normally theGNAC.com website and even Albertus will post the links on their schedules to all the games but there was none to be found. I decided to check the Suffolk website and sure enough there was a link.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on January 11, 2014, 04:03:16 pm
Forgot to thank LilDave, I read your post and that's what made me look at Suffolks website so thank you!!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 11, 2014, 04:25:08 pm
you got it! I only found it because I looked for a link on the AMC website...saw there wasn't even a box score so I scooted over to the Suffolk site and happened to find the link...and Davis tried the Rondo AGAIN haha
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on January 11, 2014, 04:51:39 pm
Nice win for Albertus. 95 to 73 I believe it was. They had the scoreboard shut off before the hand shake line was through. Eian Davis had a couple unbelievable moves and the team played well. Defense does have to improve but I believe it will when they play a much more difficult opponent.

Also forgot to mention earlier that last night on New Channel 8 SportsEdge there was yet another nice piece on the Falcons and it included player interviewers as well as some nice commentary from Coach Oliver. Im sure it is online now. All Falcons fans should take a look!!! Finally some RESPECT from the local news networks. Now we just have to get the papers involved.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on January 11, 2014, 04:53:48 pm
http://sportzedge.com/2014/01/11/albertus-magnus-basketball-becoming-d-3-power/

Found the Link......Check it out boys and girls
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 11, 2014, 08:38:05 pm
In your opinion, who is the second best team in this conference behind Albertus Magnus?  If I'm looking for the biggest test in conference, which game(s) is it?

Gordon,

JWU has been playing great since the end of the first semester. They lost a game in Maine versus St. Joe's a tough place to win a game as the visiting team. They are well coached and play great team defense. However, JWU has had some good wins since that game and have been blowing people out within the conference. I would list JWU two, St. Joe's three, and Lasell 4. I think Lasell is inexperience, but they remind me of Anna Maria the last two years. They have skill players who don't play discipline, however, can match up against anyone including Albertus.

St. Joe is the Northeast D3 version of Wisconsin. lol.

Would love to get more posters from JWU, ST. Joes on the boards.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 11, 2014, 08:42:04 pm
Thanks for the video Junkie.. I agree, finally a little love from the local media...

Albertus with a good win, only one real surprise within the conference as Lasell wins in double Overtime versus Mt. Ida. St. Joes, Albertus, and JWU all win big.

One good sign, Albertus shot the ball horribly from the three point arc. 15% 3-19 and still won by 21. They were great getting to the rim and went to the line 35 times. This tells me that they can win even if they are missing their 3s, which they haven't been this season.

Albertus gets a little breather, next game is on Wednesday at home vs Anna Maria.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 12, 2014, 02:45:51 pm
Great stuff guys, I cant keep up lol. Albertus most likely moves up to 24 or 25 in poll's this week.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 12, 2014, 04:01:40 pm
Another episode of Hoopsville is slated for tonight... and Albertus Magnus's Mitch Oliver will be on the show to talk about the team's 10-1 start. We also have the following guests lined-up:

Scranton's Mike Strong on win #800
Wellesley's Jennifer Kroll (Northeast Region)
#15 Virginia Wesleyan's Dave Macedo on win #300 (South Region & Coach's Corner)
#18 SUNY Purchase's Jeff Chaney (Atlantic Region)
#13 St. Norbert's Gary Grezesk (Central/Midwest Region)

We also have a major announcement to talk about.

Show starts at 7 PM EST and runs about two hours... and we may have time for another rant.

You can tune in here: www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2013-14/jan12 (http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2013-14/jan12)

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Thanks and enjoy the show!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 12, 2014, 05:26:42 pm
Thanks Dave!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 12, 2014, 05:49:39 pm
Sounds like a good line-up Dave. Interesting to see what Coach Oliver thinks of this team compared to his last three GNAC winning teams.

Could you ask him about Marc Wilson, he hasn't play the last two games. Did he get hurt?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on January 12, 2014, 08:18:01 pm
Nice interview by Coach Oliver on Hoopsville. Good to hear that Marc Wilson is just battling the flu and could return Wednesday. All thing considered with the wins and losses of other teams I would agree with GNAC and say that on Tuesday the Falcons will be ranked anywhere from 23 to 25.

Really excited for the home contest with SUNY Purchase. They are currently undefeated and ranked 18th. If they continue to win and so do we this will be a Top 25 matchup and an excellent game. No need to look it up in the archives because I am 99.9% certain that this will indeed be the first ever contest between 2 top 25 teams at the Nest if both teams can keep the "status quo." Should be a lot of fun to watch, and excellent late game schedule by Coach Oliver and the crew.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 12, 2014, 09:47:13 pm
Nice show Dave. Lots of good information and things to look forward to...

As with Coach Oliver, I liked that he was able to expand on the team. You can tell that he believes this team has quality players and are deeper than previous falcon teams. Wilson being back will be a great help. He causes match-up problems as well.

I think the GNAC is better this year than last (Albertus lost 3 conference games last year). So, it will be interesting to see how they fair in games versus Lasell, JWU, and St. Joe's.

I think Oliver has the right attitude, win the league. That is the goal. They players and coaching staff won't get caught up in top 25 talk (let's face it, they lose a conference game, and they won't be in top 25 for long). But, this season should be able winning the league and having an opportunity to play in the tournament.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Saint-Paul on January 13, 2014, 09:35:33 am
Final Score:  Norwich  81  -  Emmanuel  76

     At least the Saints didn't look like a JV team in this game, they played like a college varsity team.  They shot the ball much better than last week, played a much better game, finishing with 31 field goals on 17 assists and getting points from ten different players.  I had a feeling that the Norwich guards would give the Saints trouble and that turned out to be true. Gladden and McDonald finished with a combined 50 points on 16 for 25 shooting.  The Saints don't close out shooters very well and their full court press gives up a lot of open 3 point looks in transition.  McDonald's five 3 point baskets were the difference in the game, especially the dagger 3 with under 8 minutes to play in the second half.

     I was really glad to see two senior guards back in the starting line up for the Saints.  The first semester line up of 4 freshman and one junior college transfer was more than puzzling, it was down right confusing.  It was difficult to understand what the freshman could have done to EARN a starting berth over the experienced seniors, since the freshman had never played a single college game and the seniors had over 22 GNAC wins in their career.  Going 1 - 7 in the first semester showed they were not ready to play and hadn't earned those starting spots. Maybe they were in the starting line up just so they wouldn't quit the team.  The GNAC games are tightly contested regardless of team record and require seasoned players to compete. I hope the seniors get a chance to finish out the season.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 13, 2014, 10:15:56 pm
The seniors look like they can at least run an offense. I would hope they continue to start and give big minutes for the saints.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on January 13, 2014, 11:43:21 pm
Boy it sure is getting heated over there on the Top 25 board isn't it PJ and GNAC LOL. I thought it was funny how we all chimed in at right around the same time. GNAC Conference through and through baby!!!! LOL We must stick together HAHAHAHA. Lets keep up the good work on here. Maybe someday all of us here will be able to keep up with the NESCAC thread. Those guys don't stop over there. Much Respect.

Albertus vs Anna Maria preview tomorrow. Good stretch of home games for the Falcons coming up finally.....Should be a lot of fun to watch
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Saint-Paul on January 14, 2014, 09:02:11 am
Preview :  Rivier  /  Emmanuel

      Rivier is not a big team nor extremely athletic but they are fundamentally sound, they move the ball, can shoot, and most of all they have experience.  They start 3 seniors and one junior, with two seniors coming off the bench. As far as size and foot speed the Saints should be able to match up with Rivier, but the difference in the game will be senior leadership, experience, and shooting touch.  Poitras, Nelson, and Walch will be the scoring leaders for Rivier.  I think that it would be a mistake to full court press this team, no sense in giving them open looks, make them try to break down a defender in the half court and then keep them off the glass.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 14, 2014, 09:54:55 am
I feel like Poitras has been there for 10 years lol
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Saint-Paul on January 14, 2014, 10:21:28 am
yes,  you are correct about that, when I first looked at his profile pic I did a double take, I thought that he was one of the assistant coaches!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on January 14, 2014, 10:35:55 am
His older brother Don was an excellent player at Rivier as well. The Poitras bloodlines run deep at Rivier. When Tom was a freshman his older brother was a senior. Both very good players who are fundamentally sound and really play the game hard
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 14, 2014, 12:51:46 pm
Hahahaha junkie got to stick together is right! Lol unreal.......falcons crack top 25, and have some home games, can't wait!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 14, 2014, 09:53:08 pm
Junkie and GNAC, great to see you guys on the top 25 thread. hlpc needs help. lol. Would love to have a GNAC presence in those rooms, maybe force people to look at Albertus. I know a lot of those guys who vote for top 25 look at those boards and more importantly, the committee does as well.

Anna Maria lost a lot last year, 3 seniors who played a lot of minutes and help the team win. That core has not been replaced. I don't see a close game against Albertus tomorrow night. I think the falcons will be well rested and motivated to beat this team. I think Albertus wins 93-78.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 14, 2014, 10:00:45 pm
Albertus is now Number 23 in the top 25 rankings. First time all year they have been ranked this year. They are only a few points behind the three teams ahead of them. Two home games this week: Anna Maria on Wednesday and St. Joe's on Saturday. The St. Joe's game will give them some more creditability if they win.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: ECSUalum on January 14, 2014, 10:07:19 pm
Albertus is now Number 23 in the top 25 rankings. First time all year they have been ranked this year. They are only a few points behind the three teams ahead of them. Two home games this week: Anna Maria on Wednesday and St. Joe's on Saturday. The St. Joe's game will give them some more creditability if they win.

re Albertus Magnus, absolutely and well deserved!!!!!!!!!!!!  Got more nice publicity on WTNH News 8 Sports this week 8-)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 14, 2014, 10:13:56 pm
ECSU, Albertus has had a nice run so far. This team is much better than the previous years. I hope they are able to play well throughout conference play. They have a big match up versus SUNY Purchase and JWU the week of January 27.

Does Channel 3 or 6 give ECSU any love? They have a solid team again this year led by Salzillo (sp).. I believe he is from North Haven or somewhere down here. Not sure how Mitch Oliver let him go. Must be the difference in tuition. lol.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: ECSUalum on January 14, 2014, 10:36:31 pm
ECSU, Albertus has had a nice run so far. This team is much better than the previous years. I hope they are able to play well throughout conference play. They have a big match up versus SUNY Purchase and JWU the week of January 27.

Does Channel 3 or 6 give ECSU any love? They have a solid team again this year led by Salzillo (sp).. I believe he is from North Haven or somewhere down here. Not sure how Mitch Oliver let him go. Must be the difference in tuition. lol.

Thanks Punjito,
WTNH New Haven 8, and WTIC Fox 10 Hartford actually do a nice job giving other CT college/university teams, (besides UConn men and women's sports) some coverage, much more balanced.  UNH and WCSU football has been covered nicely, AM, Quinnipiac, Yale basketball gets coverage, SCSU, and even ECSU baseball get some comment.
However...WFSB 3 Hartford is ridiculous, owners or high level guys must be UConn alums, 99.9% UConn coverage,(0.1% maybe for poor old CCSU), (and even with a poor UConn Football team  ???  WFSB show the same UConn highlights some times 3 evenings/nights in a row. ::)  I am also a UConn alum, (grad school), and as I say to some of my UConn friends, UConn just has to blow wind and Channel 3 will spend time covering it ???  It is almost absurd, I do not watch Joe Zone ??? and Channel 3 Sports anymore, its all 8, and 10!!  Sorry for the rant!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 15, 2014, 08:26:30 am
PJ, I feel like I'd be surprised if the game were that close (15 or under) unless Anna Maria gets WAY UP for the game and AMC plays down to the competition. In their last 3 games Anna Maria lost to Suffolk and got waxed by Lasell and St. Joes. Crazy things do happen in the GNAC though!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Saint-Paul on January 15, 2014, 09:23:41 am
Not a whole lot to contribute to the top 25 talk but I did get a chance to see a few other teams play this year.

1 - Christopher Newport  -  very over rated team. Soft in the paint, guards who can score but can't stop teams from scoring. Not as athletic as most of the teams in the Top 25.  Not deep at all on the bench.

2 - William Patterson  -  very under rated.  Definitely a Top 25 team.  Very athletic, long and quick, can rebound, score in the half court set, great in transition, and can really defend.  Right up there with AMC and J & W in athleticism and defense.  Bench is just OK.

3 - Stevenson U  -  very under rated.  Possibly a Top 25 team.  Again, just as athletic as AMC and J & W.  Great offensive rebounding team, great in transition,  half court sets are good, bench is just OK.  Real nice starting five, very long , tough defenders, and strong rebounders.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 15, 2014, 10:09:21 am
Seeing the Michael Qualls Arkansas put back dunk to beat Kentucky reminded me of the Medger Evars game two years ago  ??? ??? Game winning shot goes up and everybody just watches!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRcrpc59m-8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRcrpc59m-8)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 15, 2014, 12:06:08 pm
ECSU, Albertus has had a nice run so far. This team is much better than the previous years. I hope they are able to play well throughout conference play. They have a big match up versus SUNY Purchase and JWU the week of January 27.

Does Channel 3 or 6 give ECSU any love? They have a solid team again this year led by Salzillo (sp).. I believe he is from North Haven or somewhere down here. Not sure how Mitch Oliver let him go. Must be the difference in tuition. lol.

Thanks Punjito,
WTNH New Haven 8, and WTIC Fox 10 Hartford actually do a nice job giving other CT college/university teams, (besides UConn men and women's sports) some coverage, much more balanced.  UNH and WCSU football has been covered nicely, AM, Quinnipiac, Yale basketball gets coverage, SCSU, and even ECSU baseball get some comment.
However...WFSB 3 Hartford is ridiculous, owners or high level guys must be UConn alums, 99.9% UConn coverage,(0.1% maybe for poor old CCSU), (and even with a poor UConn Football team  ???  WFSB show the same UConn highlights some times 3 evenings/nights in a row. ::)  I am also a UConn alum, (grad school), and as I say to some of my UConn friends, UConn just has to blow wind and Channel 3 will spend time covering it ???  It is almost absurd, I do not watch Joe Zone ??? and Channel 3 Sports anymore, its all 8, and 10!!  Sorry for the rant!

ECSU, I appreciate the rant! We are such a small state; I would think we would have better coverage of all the colleges. D2 teams seem to get little coverage as well. I understand we are an Old person state and UConn is what most people root for (I don't, Go Red Storm) but there are too many good stories to not cover the D2 and D3 teams. I know the new AD at Albertus has connections throughout the state, so hopefully Channel 8 will continue to give the falcons press when warranted. And hopefully someone at News Channel 3 understand how important the other institutions are to the state.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 15, 2014, 12:08:56 pm
You're right Dave, Albertus has played down to competition over the years. Hopefully they pull it out today.

St. Paul, your comments are always welcomed and respect. I agree with you with William Patterson, they always have a strong team. I haven't seen the only two teams play, but I know that Stevenson and Chris Newport are usually top of their conferences.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: ECSUalum on January 15, 2014, 12:40:55 pm
ECSU, Albertus has had a nice run so far. This team is much better than the previous years. I hope they are able to play well throughout conference play. They have a big match up versus SUNY Purchase and JWU the week of January 27.

Does Channel 3 or 6 give ECSU any love? They have a solid team again this year led by Salzillo (sp).. I believe he is from North Haven or somewhere down here. Not sure how Mitch Oliver let him go. Must be the difference in tuition. lol.

Thanks Punjito,
WTNH New Haven 8, and WTIC Fox 10 Hartford actually do a nice job giving other CT college/university teams, (besides UConn men and women's sports) some coverage, much more balanced.  UNH and WCSU football has been covered nicely, AM, Quinnipiac, Yale basketball gets coverage, SCSU, and even ECSU baseball get some comment.
However...WFSB 3 Hartford is ridiculous, owners or high level guys must be UConn alums, 99.9% UConn coverage,(0.1% maybe for poor old CCSU), (and even with a poor UConn Football team  ???  WFSB show the same UConn highlights some times 3 evenings/nights in a row. ::)  I am also a UConn alum, (grad school), and as I say to some of my UConn friends, UConn just has to blow wind and Channel 3 will spend time covering it ???  It is almost absurd, I do not watch Joe Zone ??? and Channel 3 Sports anymore, its all 8, and 10!!  Sorry for the rant!

ECSU, I appreciate the rant! We are such a small state; I would think we would have better coverage of all the colleges. D2 teams seem to get little coverage as well. I understand we are an Old person state and UConn is what most people root for (I don't, Go Red Storm) but there are too many good stories to not cover the D2 and D3 teams. I know the new AD at Albertus has connections throughout the state, so hopefully Channel 8 will continue to give the falcons press when warranted. And hopefully someone at News Channel 3 understand how important the other institutions are to the state.

but there are too many good stories to not cover the D2 and D3 teams

Perfectly stated :)

BTW best of luck to the Falcons, I think they will make some noise at the "show" this year
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on January 15, 2014, 01:02:17 pm
Ohhh Noooo PJ say it aint so??? Go Red Storm???? It cant be true???

Appreciate the comments towards the Falcons ECSU. I sure hope you are right about the Falcons making some noise this year in the big tourney if we are fortunate enough to make it there. Good luck to Eastern as well. One of the most respected and consistent teams in the state. Maybe one of these years will be able to schedule a nonconference game against each other. I know it would be a great matchup
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 15, 2014, 02:33:28 pm
Just a thought... a win over St. Joe's by Albertus Magnus won't carry as much weight as many think... but a loss to them will kill their chances in the Top 25 probably for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 15, 2014, 04:11:37 pm
Just the way it is Dave, and I agree that's very true. St joes is 6-6, don't see a win over them being anything special. I guess that's a thing that we now hold our falcons to that standard. Our core of Watson, and juco transfers Victor Ldujajah(?!), and pg Eian Davis is as good a 3 in the region, I am convinced. Larsen, Jennings, and Wilson no slouches either. We understand how we are looked at, no worries from us here, we'll let the play speak for themselves. Purchase matchup will tell us a lot
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 15, 2014, 04:12:06 pm
Guess that's a good thing *
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 15, 2014, 09:29:49 pm
Just a thought... a win over St. Joe's by Albertus Magnus won't carry as much weight as many think... but a loss to them will kill their chances in the Top 25 probably for the rest of the season.

Dave, I think we all understand now that the GNAC is a weak conference. A conference lost looks very bad regardless of the circumstance. No real big wins but a lot of bad losses. The top 25 is a fun thing to talk about, but I think all Albertus fans would prefer to see a nice run in the show.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 15, 2014, 09:34:35 pm
Ohhh Noooo PJ say it aint so??? Go Red Storm???? It cant be true???

Appreciate the comments towards the Falcons ECSU. I sure hope you are right about the Falcons making some noise this year in the big tourney if we are fortunate enough to make it there. Good luck to Eastern as well. One of the most respected and consistent teams in the state. Maybe one of these years will be able to schedule a nonconference game against each other. I know it would be a great matchup


Yea.. Red Storm Junkie..I know, I know, let the jokes begin. lol. ECSU, good luck to your team as well. They are solid and should be in contention for the little east title again. I remember the ECAC game a few years back, ECSU beat Albertus up in Willimantic. Great atmosphere and good game to watch. Hopefully, they can play in regular season. It would fun to watch those games.. would also bring our SOS up.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 15, 2014, 09:36:22 pm
Albertus 100 Anna Maria 66.. Not much to say.. Wilson was back, but maybe not at 100%. Next game at home vs St. Joe's.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on January 16, 2014, 12:02:10 am
St. Joes may keep them competitive for a half or maybe even 30 minutes, but AMC should pull away at the end.  Looking forward to that huge contest against Purchase in a few weeks.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 16, 2014, 07:36:06 am
Yea we know Dave thanks, jeeeez. Lol jk

7 going to be a great matchup, hopefully we both stay perfect in D3 til then!

I will say the albertus crowd, while big, needs to step it up a little. The student section was weak last night. I woulda had that crowd going 5 yrs ago if we were a top 25 team lol I mean I did before the days of Mitch Oliver. Little disappointed, but hopefully they show up as the season goes on
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 16, 2014, 07:37:06 am
And it shouldn't be too hard to get going when your PG is throwing down alleys two mins into the game, as well as several other monster dunks along the way lol
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 16, 2014, 07:52:59 am
Yeah us Falcon fans have come to grips with the fact that a conference loss pretty much seals our fate to play the host team of a pod (Willy P 09-10 or Alvernia last year) while winning all the games we should gets us the neutral game like up in Middlebury two years ago...obviously assuming we win the GNAC tournament.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Saint-Paul on January 16, 2014, 08:47:49 am
Final Score :  Rivier  57  -  Emmanuel  69

     The Saints finally played what I considered to be a smart game.  They did not come out full court pressing Rivier, and therefore did not give up easy transition baskets and wide open threes.  They packed in their defense into a 3 - 2 zone below the arc, took away driving opportunities, force Rivier into taking uncomfortable shots, and then rebounded the ball. For once, they did not try to run with every rebound and jack up quick shots.  They walked the ball up the court and ran 15 - 20 seconds off the shot clock looking for a good shot.  The result was a game in the high 50's instead of the high 80's, and a very nice road win.  Not sure why it took 13 games and 10 losses to understand the Saints are not a pressing, running team.

     Unfortunately, once again the final score of this game is not the big story for the Saints team.  It appears that two more players have left the team, although I cannot be 100% sure because this time there was no public announcement. That would make it numbers 4 and 5 to leave the team so far this year, exactly the Saints average for yearly roster defections.  Two players, one freshman guard and another junior college transfer, both of whom started a few games in the first semester have disappeared from the team.  They are not in uniform for the games and are not sitting in a shirt and tie on the end of the bench like injured players would do.  They just disappeared from the team.  The strange thing is that their names still appear on the public roster but they have not been seen on the bench for the last four games.  Is it possible that the SID has been ordered not to update the public roster for fear of more bad publicity?  I have never heard of such a thing in D-3 basketball.  In the past as soon as a player quit the Saints team they would immediately remove his name from the roster. I am sure about that because I have followed all the Saints roster changes for the past five years. Maybe the coach doesn't want any of the future recruits to see how many players keep leaving his program so quickly.  What a mess this program has become.  The only question remaining is will there be enough players left to finish the season? Will it end up like the Piedmont College situation from last year?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: ECSUalum on January 16, 2014, 08:58:51 pm
Ohhh Noooo PJ say it aint so??? Go Red Storm???? It cant be true???

Appreciate the comments towards the Falcons ECSU. I sure hope you are right about the Falcons making some noise this year in the big tourney if we are fortunate enough to make it there. Good luck to Eastern as well. One of the most respected and consistent teams in the state. Maybe one of these years will be able to schedule a nonconference game against each other. I know it would be a great matchup


Yea.. Red Storm Junkie..I know, I know, let the jokes begin. lol. ECSU, good luck to your team as well. They are solid and should be in contention for the little east title again. I remember the ECAC game a few years back, ECSU beat Albertus up in Willimantic. Great atmosphere and good game to watch. Hopefully, they can play in regular season. It would fun to watch those games.. would also bring our SOS up.

Coach Geitner has upgraded his schedule this year with games vs Amherst, Catholic, North Central, and SUNY-Purchase!  I agree a game with Albertus, ( perhaps in a early Tournament in NH), would be great and continue the improvement in schedule quality.  Lets hope Coach reads this!!

I think as long as the Falcons stay healthy, a ticket to the show , to me, is a no brainer!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on January 16, 2014, 09:05:17 pm
I wish Western scheduled them again instead of creampuffs like Lesley & Western New England.  What does beating Lesley by 30 points do you for??  Absolutely nothing, except give some end of bench guys some playing time, but since Western's rotation goes 10 or 11 deep anyways, what's the point of that??  Same with WNEC.  Even though we'd likely lose @ AMC, I'd rather lose @ AMC this year than beat WNEC by 20 points, because you can judge your team off a top 25 caliber opponent and see how you stack up.  You can't do that with Fitchburg State (1-12 now), Lesley (2-11), Worcester State (3-11) or WNEC (3-10), all OOC opponents for Western this season.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 16, 2014, 10:47:20 pm
There is a lot of season left. They are playing well so far, so hopefully it keeps going. I think they should handle St. Joe's at home on Saturday.

GNAC, I agree, student section should be fired up. I think most Albertus fans remember the days of 8 players on a team.. Timmy Russell scoring 50 and Albertus losing by 12. lol. Hopefully, now that classes are back in session, there will be a good lively crowd.

7 and ESCU, you guys make great points. I would love for Albertus to play the Eastern schedule. Those losses, in my opinion, make a team tougher throughout the year. And if you win, should instill a confidence that last a long time. Especially when the conference is considered a weak one.

Saint, good win... sorry more guys are leaving. Sounds like a very disturbing situation. Keep us informed.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 17, 2014, 09:43:51 am
Pjunito, the student section at albertus has always been known to be rowdy and rambunctious, and some of Oliver's early teams fed off of it. Just seemed dead Wednesday.


7, this is the first yr I can't remember playing west conn. We always have seemed to play one another, and they were always great games. I remember getting Daquan Brooks angry in pregame warm ups back in 08 or 07. And he went off for about 30 or so and stared me down after every 3 lol as west conn won by 15. So those games were always fun. And if we added ECSU to that it'd be even better.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 17, 2014, 01:32:20 pm
DaQuan Brooks was very close to coming to Albertus. He had gone to North Carolina or somewhere in the south for a while (for high school) but knew Byron Reeves (Half Court Shot Man). Bryon was trying hard to get DaQuan to Albertus. Mitch had him on campus and DaQuan played ball in the gym a lot. But, it came down to instate tuition. 

GNAC, Could imagine Brooks with Askew in 2011-12?

Starting 5 would have been:
Brooks
Jackson
Watson
Askew
Lora

Pretty good. lol.

And the brooks beat down game, as I like to call it, was in Nov 2009. I just read box score.. Brooks had 39; scoring 12 out of the last 15 points for West Conn... WOW!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 18, 2014, 12:17:40 pm
PJ, 39 sounds about right lol

1 vs 2 in the gnacs today. I know Dave mentioned how st joes won't be looked at as a significant win nationally, which I agree with, they did give Bowdoin (top 25 team) all they could handle earlier in the yr. almost pulled off the win. Somewhat of a nice measuring stick for albertus in this one
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 18, 2014, 04:16:00 pm
49-34 albertus at half. However starting pg Eian Davis went out with 6 mins left on a hard screen. Looks like his shoulder. He was having the best game of anyone on the court up until that point. Was basically unstoppable. Doesn't look like he'll be back so we will see
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 18, 2014, 04:26:46 pm
First time seeing Davis in person, and you guys weren't lying. Hope he comes back in for my viewing purposes haha. But up 15 if they don't need him the rest of the way, let him sit.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 18, 2014, 04:39:18 pm
Lol he's no joke

54-44, albertus up as many as 16, but Davis hasn't returned and two starters on bench with 3 fouls. Vic and Larsen. Time for Watson to take over if amc wants to win
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 18, 2014, 05:19:26 pm
Albertus wins 86-78. Final score not indictive of game once again. Albertus was never in trouble and had a 17-18 point lead with about 3 to go. St joes didn't miss last two mins of game.  Davis did not return and backup freshman PG Jackson played a great second half especially in locking meideros down. Watson must of read my previous post bc he took over lol. Albertus cruises in second half with basically their B unit on floor.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 18, 2014, 09:37:27 pm
GNAC you were right about the crowd...Soft lol hopefully it's just because they know they should win so they're disinterested. Come tourney time I'll channel my inner college student and get down there with you haha...

By the way, when did we get that awesome PA announcer? When he started with "ROAMING CHARGES!" on Darius' opening 3 I lost it lol
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 18, 2014, 10:14:06 pm
Dave and GNAC, great seeing you guys at the game.. Sorry I only stayed 6 minutes... lol.

I think you guys hit it right on the head. Crowd is a little weak and Albertus was in control the entire game. Here is the scary part - Vic was outplayed and Davis only played 14 minutes and they were stilled in controlled. I think JWU matches up better against Albertus than St. Joe, however.

I did see a few things that concern me:

1. Jennings and Wiggins didn't shot the ball well at all.
2. Team seemed disorganized on offense
3. Team was lazy on defense

I want to see how they play against a better opponent for 40 minutes.

Now, Davis is the X factor. Without him, they are a different team. Next two games is at home against Rivier and Elms, two teams they should beat. I wouldn't mind Davis sitting for both, need him 100% for the rough stretch, which includes: at Lasell, vs Purchase, vs JWU, and At St. Joes.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on January 19, 2014, 12:33:09 am
Wow late night but finally home. As usual you guys did a great job of covering the details of the game. The Davis injury is scary but what was even scarier were some the points he was able to convert on early in the first half. Truly amazing to watch and his ability to drive and balance once leaving the floor is really spectacular. This would have been a blowout if he played normally the entire 2nd half, I have no doubts. Now with that being said IMO the injury didn't look to scary. He had ice on his shoulder in the beginning of the second but not for long. He did seem to favor it a bit but if I had to guess right now I think he will be fine.

I have to say guys I thought the crowd was pretty good today?? A lot of fans showed up to the game including a ton of former Albertus players but overall I thought they were solid. Obviously not the loudest I've heard but certainly better than the last game. As you mentioned I think the playoffs and going forward they will become more vocal and step it up.

PJ, Couldn't agree more with you on your concerns, only thing I will say is the disorganized offense I felt was because of Davis being out of the game. Tieron Jackson played extremely well and I thought he did an excellent job considering he is a freshman and we all know Coach Oliver runs a very involved offense with a number of different sets and plays. With that being said he still at times looked a little lost on offense not always knowing where the ball should be in some of there sets but I must say he really is a gifted passer and did an A+ job stepping in against a very well coached and experienced St Joes team.

Jennings and Wiggins struggles with the deep ball hurt but everybody has an off day and im not to worried about them. The defense was very lazy to say the least. I want to use the term "active hands" because St. Joes got so many little slips passes and dump offs that should have never occurred. St. Joes does an excellent job with moving the ball but I thought Albertus got a little lazy and it resulted in some easy buckets. We have all talked about the defense all year here and I think it really must improve.

Foul trouble hurt our bigs today as well but as mentioned Albertus was in control the entire game and succeeded with an entirely different starting five from the beginning to end of the game. On to the next one!!!!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 19, 2014, 09:58:55 am
Dave, I was hardly channeling my inner college student yday lol, I woulda been tossed of I had when Larsen and Vic picked up bogus 3rd fouls while Jobin was able to push all day. But I think we may just have to do that lol

Junkie, I agree that the crowd was strong. There wasn't a seat in the house. I'm more talking about the student crowd I guess. They coulda played a factor but they are quiet, especially considering what the student section once was.

If anyone has news on Davis let me know lol he's by far my fav player on this team. And Jackson played GREAT as a freshman Ina big spot. That kid deserves some credit, although us homers have mentioned it already lol. But it's worth saying again
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 19, 2014, 10:10:03 am
Definitely noticed the "active hands" thing junkie. So many points were off dribble drives and dump offs because the help over commits. Especially someone as big as Vic, you don't need to send every shot into the 8th row, just stay at home and put your arms up to alter the shot.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Saint-Paul on January 19, 2014, 10:35:01 am
Final Score :  Anna Maria  60  /  Emmanuel  56
   

Another poor shooting performance for the Saints on their home court.  The starting five accounted for only 29 of the 56 points.  The Saints made only 19 field goals on 63 shots.  So much for home court advantage.  Once again, transition defense was the difference in the game.  The Saints gave Anna Maria open driving lanes and failed to sprint back on defense to stop the progression of the ball into the lane.  The really sad thing about this home loss was that it was a very winnable game.  For once the Saints were not over matched, both teams had identical 3 - 10 records.

Who does the scheduling for the GNAC, it must have been the NHL?  The Saints get one day off and then play Anna Maria again on Monday in an away game.  Are they trying to create a rivalry?  At least they won't have to prepare another scouting report.  I bet the Saints will shoot better when they play away.  There appears to be so much tension on their home court because of all the turmoil surrounding the program that the Saints just don't play well at home.  They play very tentative at home, like they are afraid to make a mistake.  They come out of the locker room at half time and play worse than they did at the start of the game. They only have 3 wins this year and all of them came on the road.  They have lost all of their home games this year.  When they go on the road, they appear to play much more relaxed and shoot the ball much better.  We shall seoo tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 19, 2014, 03:35:33 pm
You guys do such a great job of covering the falcons.. I haven't heard anything yet about Davis, other than he was pretty sore.

Saint - The scheduling becomes a bit funky because there are more women teams than men teams in the GNAC. Also, all five states in New England are covered which cause crazy travel. I think they try to schedule all women games (each team plays each other only once); then fill in from there.

Anna Maria didn't look very impressive in New Haven on Wednesday. I would think Emmanuel shoots better on Monday and leaves Paxton with a win.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 20, 2014, 11:19:42 am
Interested to see if Davis plays today...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 20, 2014, 03:03:38 pm
Jackson starting at the point...less than 4 minutes in and Jennings is already 0-3 from deep. He either needs to get out of this slump, or stop shooting. Against better teams his volume of misses is gonna HURT.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 20, 2014, 03:46:54 pm
AMC up 31-26 at half. Real ragged first half for both teams, especially for the Falcons on O. No rhythm or consistency.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 20, 2014, 03:50:15 pm
Couldn't make it to the game, sounds like a sluggish half
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Saint-Paul on January 20, 2014, 04:15:05 pm
Final Score :  Anna Maria  80  /  Emmanuel  71
   

Most teams shoot better on their home court than they do when they play away games.  Not the Saints.  Against the exact same team on the away end of back to back games with Anna Maria, the Saints had one of their best shooting performances of the year.  The made 44% of the field goals for the game along with 53% of their 3 point shots.   They matched up very well with the AMCATS starting five and played a back and forth game throughout. A few missed defensive assignments in the second half was the difference in the game. The Saints could not get some key stops on critical possessions.  Again, a very winnable game that slipped away at the end.

Whatever it is that makes them tentative and afraid to make a mistake at home is starting to be very noticeable.  They don't shoot well or play well on their home court. They play like a demoralized team at home.  As soon as they go away they appear much more relaxed and play a very competitive game. Home court is suppose to be an advantage, especially in shooting where depth perception and lighting are a familiar surrounding.  They Saints appear to be much more comfortable on the road.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 20, 2014, 07:13:50 pm
Dave, I was up top today.. missed ya at the game. You hit it right on the head for the first half.

Whatever Oliver said in the locker room worked. Falcons use a 16-1 run to pull away in the second half. Final score 73-52. No Davis meant no offensive flow. He was cheering pretty hard and looked like he could dribble. But, was icing pretty much all game. Most impressive part of the 16-1 run was that Watson had to leave because he had blood on his leg, Vic and Larson were on bench with fouls. on the court was Jackson, Jennings, Walker, Wiggins, and Gibbs. They played great defense, rebounded well, and Wiggins and Jennings made some shots. If they had better offensive players it would have been a 24-1 run, they had 3 turnovers and some bad possession during that stretch.

Let's see if Davis comes back for Wednesday's game vs Elms.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 20, 2014, 07:14:33 pm
Albertus up to #20 in d3 poll.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 20, 2014, 07:48:50 pm
You didn't see me because I wasn't there haha, I watched the first half while at work. Wish I watched the 2nd half instead!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Saint-Paul on January 21, 2014, 11:38:48 am
The J&WU website allows you to watch the video of their games after they are played.  Not all the schools do this.  So I watched their game against St Joe and was very impressed with the number of different ways that J&W can score.  Obviously transition is their best method, they can really finish at the rim. I was also surprised to see how well they shoot the 3 ball against the St Joe zone.  Usually teams who are strong at attacking the basket are not a great outside shooting team but J&W doesn't hesitate to step into 3 point shots if the defense is packed in below the arc. Third way they score is by dribble penetration against the St Joe man defense. They are quick off the dribble and can really turn the corner off of ball screens.  I thought that St Joe was a quality team who played a very unselfish game, moved the ball, and shot well from the perimeter and I was very impressed with the J&W victory.  Every time St Joe tried to attack the basket they were met by a swarm of J&W defenders who played a very tight shell defense.  J&W looked like a very well balanced team at both ends of the floor.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 21, 2014, 02:39:19 pm
Saint, that is great to know... If we have a snow day tomorrow, I will watch the game between JWU and St. Joe's. I think I speak for GNAC and Dave when I say JWU always have long athletic players. Their coach loves to run and they play an aggressive style of defense. Not a press per say, but very active hands and quick feet to double key guys. They've also always had one guy who is their go to scorer (seems like it might be Greenway this year).

I just did some research - Looks like they have two guys who didn't play much until Conference play started - not sure if they transferred in or were hurt. Garrick and Touze. Touze is second on the team in scoring and leads the team in rebounds. He is 6-6 and probably very athletic. Shoots 71% from the field and  hits enough free throws to rack up points. I would imagine he gets a lot of his points on putbacks and around the rim.

JWU plays 7 guys, this leads me to believe they play a lot of zone. Can't get key guys into foul trouble. They have this big man, 6-7 transfer from Franklin Pierce (D2 and former President), but his stats don't say much. He does start, but probably a scare tactic, try to make smaller teams stay away from paint.

Looks like Greenway, Touze, and Lewis are their big 3.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: FormerGNACplayer on January 22, 2014, 01:19:05 am
Hello guys, I haven't posted in a while but I do keep up with these post. This is by far the best Falcons offensive team I've seen. Albertus hasn't been strong defensively since the 1st championship year with Lora as a freshman and Reaves being a defensive Anchor, Alex Muniz and st.juste were fast, Askew erasing the boards both ways. No way  Falcons team could  defend the st.joes team that had Kelly and Obrien Petzy. Falcons would simply out score anybody. Gnac seems a bit down in talent. I like JWU scoring chances against Albertus but all bets are off if Albertus shooters get hot. Watson, wiggins, and Jennings are as good of shooters I've seen.  I'm a couple of years dated thinking of the gnac when they had Lassell standout Jose Giton (butchered the spelling) Jermey Shannon, Lamont Thomas, bean and the older bro from Rivier and a bunch of great role players. If Albertus can defend as they did against Central, they are an elite 8 final 4 team. If they continue to let teams score at will with layups, 2nd round exit is evident again.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Charles on January 22, 2014, 06:17:03 am
Hello guys, I haven't posted in a while but I do keep up with these post. This is by far the best Falcons offensive team I've seen. Albertus hasn't been strong defensively since the 1st championship year with Lora as a freshman and Reaves being a defensive Anchor, Alex Muniz and st.juste were fast, Askew erasing the boards both ways. No way  Falcons team could  defend the st.joes team that had Kelly and Obrien Petzy. Falcons would simply out score anybody. Gnac seems a bit down in talent. I like JWU scoring chances against Albertus but all bets are off if Albertus shooters get hot. Watson, wiggins, and Jennings are as good of shooters I've seen.  I'm a couple of years dated thinking of the gnac when they had Lassell standout Jose Giton (butchered the spelling) Jermey Shannon, Lamont Thomas, bean and the older bro from Rivier and a bunch of great role players. If Albertus can defend as they did against Central, they are an elite 8 final 4 team. If they continue to let teams score at will with layups, 2nd round exit is evident again.
really? they have the 320th most difficult schedule in D3 and their defense is ranked 253 according to Massey. Let's see how they do against Purchase.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 22, 2014, 10:23:49 am
Funny bc I was looking at old gnac posts yday and Charles is the same guy who was bitter about coach Oliver lol then disappeared. Nice karma rating there Charles. Yea can't wait for purchase. You bring up their D yet fail to leave out that Albertus' offense is ranked 5th nationally. Keep trolling bud we love it
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Charles on January 22, 2014, 11:22:24 am
Funny bc I was looking at old gnac posts yday and Charles is the same guy who was bitter about coach Oliver lol then disappeared. Nice karma rating there Charles. Yea can't wait for purchase. You bring up their D yet fail to leave out that Albertus' offense is ranked 5th nationally. Keep trolling bud we love it

Coach Oliver has a nice program not sure what you're talking about. I know the program and have been to several games ove the years.
However, I'm not sure they are a final 4 team, I just think that their schedule is weak becasue of the league they play in.



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Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: middhoops on January 22, 2014, 08:52:18 pm
Folks, Charles can always be counted on to say what he thinks.  He consistently gets lots of -k for it, but from my experience, his statistic are usually correct, even if tact isn't something he attempts. 
If you read between the lines, he really is a pure D3 basketball fan.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 22, 2014, 08:56:40 pm
Midd, I appreciate the honesty ty. I'll take it into consideration, Charles my bad.


Albertus played without preseason all American honorable mention Darius Watson. Not sure why hope he's ok. No Darius no problem 113-97 falcons
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 22, 2014, 09:25:42 pm
Yeah why didn't Darius play? Got me nervous haha hopefully PJ or Junkie can fill us in.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Charles on January 22, 2014, 09:34:50 pm
wow a little love from the GNAC board, thanks.  ;D
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: ECSUalum on January 22, 2014, 10:04:06 pm
Is Darius Watson hurt?
Nice win by the Falcons tonight over Elms 113-97.  Hope Mr. Watson is OK!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 22, 2014, 10:05:37 pm
Us too! By the way, Jennings launched 10 more 3s and only hit 3 of them whereas Wiggins was 5 for 9...
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on January 22, 2014, 10:36:25 pm
Hello all, I have been so busy the last few weeks I am a little behind on my updates.

Nice win tonight for the Falcons against what I felt was a very underappreciated team in Elms. They are very athletic, fast and play an up-tempo style. I have no doubts that within a few years Coach Southall will turn this program into a contender year in and year out. He comes from a great program in WPI and has certainly brought over a ton of knowledge to this team. While they didn't execute particular well IMO there athleticism made up for some of there mistakes and they do a really good job of crashing the boards. Hats off to them.

Let me get to what appears to be the big question here on the thread (rightfully so for Falcon fans) and that is Darius Watson. Darius I think will be fine. He twisted his ankle last game against Rivier and actually missed a good portion of he 2nd half because of it. He seemed to be walking fine tonight in warmups and If I had to guess he might be back for Saturdays game. I think we all have to keep in mind that Purchase rolls into town Monday and I wouldn't be surprised if Coach Oliver decides to hold him out Saturday to make sure that he is fully ready for Mondays big game. I know Monday isn't a conference game and no doubt that a win Saturday is more important but while I have the utmost respect for Coach Galletta and a much improved Lasell team, I still feel they can get by in this game without Watson. The only thing that worries me is being on the road and I hate to say it but the referees LOL.

Eian Davis basically took over tonight knowing that he had to carry the load with Watson out. He was just electric, a couple of weird out of control turnovers but MY GOD he is unbelievable when it comes to getting to the hoop. Just an absolute blur. Vic played well too. Missed a couple bunnies but had his way with an undersized opponent.

Jennings struggled again to hit the deep ball but he continues to shoot and for me that is key. Keep on pulling James because we all know you are capable of going 6 for 6 next game from deep. Kyle Wiggins, All I can say is WOWWWW. Kid was on fire from deep. He really has one of the purest shots I think I have honestly ever seen. His release is so perfect and really the only time he struggles to make shots is when he doesn't get his legs under him.

Poor Lemar got absolutely SCREWED again with foul trouble tonight. The refs seem to have something against this kid. So many ticky tack fouls for him but overall I think he has played excellent, just not enough minutes because of the fouls.

Someone we haven't mentioned much here must be talked about tonight. Marcus Walker! He played an excellent game not just tonight but Monday as well. For me he is about the best post player I have seen come off the bench for any team this year. He is a tenacious rebounder and can really finish around the hoop. No doubt he would start on any other team in the GNAC. I love that he comes off the bench for us, just a smart experienced player who gets the job done.

I'm not going to get into the defense because I just don't have the strength in my fingers to type that much more for the rest of the night but it really has to step it up!! Some weird turnovers tonight too as a result of just lazy passes but overall the game was never really in doubt.

On to the next one!!!
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: lildave678 on January 23, 2014, 09:02:12 am
Good news in regards to Darius. As long as there were no crutches or anything like that then I'd imagine he'll be ok. The little bit of the 2nd half I caught was just a blur. Up and down and up and down.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on January 23, 2014, 11:57:04 am
No Dave, there were no crutches which is always great news and as I mentioned, he really didn't have much of a limp while walking around during warm-ups. The entire game was a blur. Not much defense on either side and the pace was fast and furious which played right into Albertus hands as we all know.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: Saint-Paul on January 23, 2014, 12:13:24 pm
Preview  :  Suffolk  /  Emmanuel

    On paper this looks like a pretty even game.  The Rams start 4 guards and one center,  they are not real long or athletic, they will shoot a lot of 3 balls which will lead to long rebounds and opponents run outs.  The Saints are not over matched in terms of size or foot speed, and for once they are not playing against senior leadership, the Rams have no seniors on the team.  If the Saints stick with their most recent line up of two senior guards ( never know about that ) they should have the advantage in terms of court experience.  Once again I would like to see the Saints play a tight zone, close down driving lanes, rebound the ball, and walk the ball up court and run some shot clock.  I really hope the Saints don't come out full court pressing again and give the Rams all kinds of open looks.  Looking forward to a fairly even game on Saturday.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 23, 2014, 02:13:44 pm
Junkie.. You hit right on the head again! I ditto what you said, especially in regards to Jennings. He can't lose his confidence, he will need to make big shots when teams start trying to take away Davis penetration.

Good to have you back Former!!

Charles, I agree with what you mentioned regarding the SOS. It won't be great. Hopefully, JWU keeps winning. If Albertus plays well vs JWU (twice) and Purchase, it might help the SOS a little little little bit. Who knows.. Best part about the GNAC, win and you're in.

Watson hurt himself on Monday. He came out of the game with an apparent injury (actually Albertus made their run without him, Davis, or Vic).. I think he probably rolled it and it swelled up on him Tuesday morning. I think he will play; I think Watson is the type that wants to play every game. And I think Oliver wants his best player out there every game as well. I know there is a big regional match-up on Monday, but if Watson can play he will.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 23, 2014, 02:14:22 pm
I think the bench is the best bench Oliver has had all year... I have a meeting, but will finish my thought when I get back.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on January 23, 2014, 04:09:43 pm
I've said this time and again.  Winning cures everything.  You win the conference tourney and your in the NCAA tournament even if you finish the regular season 4-21.  That's what makes basketball so great.  But definitely the game vs. Purchase, and the 2(1??) remaining games against Johnson & Wales will help.  I don't think the formula takes into account who the opposistion has beaten (it takes the SOS of it, however), but with every win in the LEC RIC gets, that win over them by J&W looks better and better.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 23, 2014, 04:28:19 pm
I couldn't agree more 7. It comes down to the conference tournament. There is a lot of hype around the Purchase game, two top 20 teams playing each other. You should come down, if you can make it. I think the Purchase game will give Mitch Oliver a better idea of how they stack up with the rest of the region. The JWU game will be tough conference games and I believe those make you better (win or lose) because you have to really battle.

JWU has been a different team since that new player has been coming off the bench. (Toute, sp?)
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on January 23, 2014, 05:09:19 pm
I couldn't agree more 7. It comes down to the conference tournament. There is a lot of hype around the Purchase game, two top 20 teams playing each other. You should come down, if you can make it. I think the Purchase game will give Mitch Oliver a better idea of how they stack up with the rest of the region. The JWU game will be tough conference games and I believe those make you better (win or lose) because you have to really battle.

JWU has been a different team since that new player has been coming off the bench. (Toute, sp?)

I would love too, and normally I'd be able but I'm coaching a town rec basketball team, and we happen to have a game....that night......at 8 PM :(. The worst possible time, lol.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: FormerGNACplayer on January 23, 2014, 07:13:11 pm
Kudos to JWU and Purchase but I don't think either are better than Central. Albertus played them tough and if it wasn't for Davis cramping up, they would've won after they took the lead. As long as they get up for big game as they did Central, I don't see anyone beating Albertus until the 3rd or 4th round. By the way, Albertus played WPI TOUGH in the scrimmage and that was without Jenningins
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: GnacBballFan on January 23, 2014, 09:17:01 pm
I heard they split with WPI, two separate halves. Any thruth to that?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: pjunito on January 23, 2014, 10:34:18 pm
OK everyone, we have been down this road before. Where we think Albertus is making a run to the finals. The best Albertus team over the last 5 year is the 2011-12 team that went 28-2, losing once at home on a last second lay-up to Medgar Evers and then in the 2nd round to Middlebury. The gnac was not very strong that year, Albertus went 18-0 and the best out of conference win was home vs West Conn. So, let’s compare that team with this.

   2011-12   2013-14
Center   Lora      Vic          Adv Vic. He is more explosive and active around the rim, both ways
Forward Askew      Larsen   Adv Askey. Most rebound and points in Albertus history
Forward Watson   Watson Adv Senior Watson – more mature, more determined, better player
Guard   Dugas      Jennings Adv Jennings – very close, but Dugas lost confidence after getting hurt , one thing we know about Jennings will never lose confidence, he is also more active defensively than Dugas
Guard Jackson      Davis Adv Davis – Jackson didn’t have to do much, not turn ball over and play solid defense, Davis is a difference maker. He is so skilled at getting to basket and quick hands.

Bench   Smith      Wiggins
   Jimmy Eco   Wilson
   Larsen      Walker
   Sweeney   Gibbs
   Sanders      Jackson

The bench for the 2011-12 falcon team played great defense. Jimmy Eco, Smith, and Sanders were great on the ball defenders. They usually came in and played with Askew who did all the scoring. They knew their role and did it great. They also rebounded very well. Larsen was tenacious around the basket, but got into a lot of foul trouble. Sweeney was limited with his knee problems and sometimes was a rebounding and defensive liability. However, he was able to hit a big jumper to keep other teams honest.
This year bench is a bunch of scorers. Lol. There isn’t a lot of great defenders on this team, but they can find the rim. Wiggins is a legit outside threat, keeps team honest. Walker and Gibbs are big bodies, Walker much more polish as a JUCO transfer and Gibbs a freshmen. Jackson is a pass first back-up pg. He can handle the load, but still a freshmen. And Wilson is a slasher, very athletic, not afraid to take ball to rim. Can be reckless as times, but can also be a spark.

Advantage, this year bench. I know, I know, Defense wins championships… But, the bench here is so versatile. They are also very long and athletic, they can cause teams to take difficult shots and can press as well.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: 7express on January 23, 2014, 10:49:08 pm
I really wish Western had played a home-and-home with Albertus in 2011-12.  I think the season before that, Western won by 3 or 4 in Danbury in a very high scoring contest where Askew put up like 50 points.  Western was never in the game after the opening tip that year, I would've liked to see it again @ Western or even on a neutral court.
Title: Re: GNAC
Post by: D3HoopJunkie on January 23, 2014, 10:59:32 pm
I'm gonna go in order here,

First off, pleasure having you here FormerGNAC, I am a new poster as well and you obviously bring a ton of knowledge and know the teams just as well if not more than all of us seeing as you played beside them.  I also hope your prediction of a possible Elite 8 or Final 4 appearance for the Falcons is correct LOL, that would just be an awesome feat.

GNAC I heard WPI and Albertus played a similar format to what you mentioned but if the game was played as a whole Albertus would have been victorious. They did split but it was somewhat lopsided because a number of bench players played in the "second game" or "second half" which ever way you want to look at it) and that was won by WPI but with projected starters on the court Albertus had the upper hand and won convincingly. Again that's just what I heard, don't know the 100% truth behind it so please don't hold it against me if other details emerge.

PJ, Great breakdown as usual and I can honestly say that I agree with literally every word you said. This team is far superior in almost all aspect and we keep talking about defense but for me I can really see this team bearing down when needing to and playing a defenses game that is much more respectable. I think we just may see that Monday night.

Just one quick thought and it sort of just hit me as