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#1
Quote from: ccd494 on November 14, 2017, 02:38:35 PM
Oh, I'm not saying Husson is misranked, I just find it interesting that the actual results of Husson's games don't affect where they are voted in any way.

Don't forget that while Husson is winning, their opponents are playing games as well. Past results can be diminished or elevated based on later results.

And every voter isn't beholden to ranking teams only on record, which is what I think makes the rankings fun.
#2
Week 11 Fan Poll 

       Team                RecordPointsLast RatingNext Week
1t  Brockport State ( 3 )10-0472vs. #8t Plymouth State
1t  Delaware Valley ( 2 )10-0471vs. Western New England
3   Wesley9-1413vs. #7 RPI
4   Frostburg State9-1334at #3 (West) Wittenberg
5   Springfield10-0315vs. #10 Husson
6   Salisbury7-3216at #8t Ithaca
7   RPI8-211NRat #3 Wesley
8t  Ithaca7-310NRvs. #6 Salisbury
8t  Plymouth State9-1107at #1t Brockport State
10  Husson9-198at #5 Springfield


Dropping Out:
Framingham State
Widener


Also Receiving votes:               
Western New England 6
Hobart 3
Alfred 2
Framingham State 2
Widener 2
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Brockport State (3,1,1,1,2)
Delaware Valley (1,2,2,2,1)
Wesley (2,3,3,3,3)
Frostburg State (4,4,5,5,4)
Springfield (6,5,4,4,5)
Salisbury (5,NR,6,6,6)
RPI (NR,8,8,7,10)
Ithaca (7,NR,10,10,7)
Plymouth State (10,7,9,8,NR)
Husson (NR,6,7,NR,NR)
Western New England (8,10,NR,9,NR)
Hobart (NR,NR,NR,NR,8)
Alfred (NR,NR,NR,NR,9)
Framingham State(NR,9,NR,NR,NR)
Widener (9,NR,NR,NR,NR)


Key Matchups:
#4 Frostburg State at #3 (West) Wittenberg
#6 Salisbury at #8t Ithaca (Neutral Site)
#7 RPI at #3 Wesley
#8t Plymouth State at #1t Brockport State
#10 Husson at #5 Springfield
#3
I ran out of time waiting for the last poll, so as a bookend to the 2017 ERFP I once again grabbed the Hansen Rankings.  That should make for some interesting discussion, but his top 6 align with the rest of the voters so we're only talking about the long tail votes anyway.
Thanks voters and commenters for making the 2017 enjoyable, even though I only have about 30 minutes a week to glance at the boards!
-Kaz
#4
Quote from: cstate19 on November 05, 2017, 07:50:11 PM
First time checking in all year. Catching up and want to make sure I have this right. RPai wins and they are in, which guarantees a Cortaca V2.0?

Call me crazy but I LOVE the idea of a Cortaca II. Rematch is great for the players and would allow alumni and fans a chance to go without most of the drunken nonsense.

The last time we were talking about Cortaca II, Cortland ended up playing Dem Spicy Boyz.  Does that mean that Union will win the Shoes?
#5
Week 10 Fan Poll 

       Team                RecordPointsLast RatingNext Week
1   Delaware Valley ( 2 )9-0472vs. #9t Widener
2   Brockport State ( 3 )9-0461at St. Lawrence
3   Wesley8-1423vs. Christopher Newport
4   Frostburg State8-1354at #6 Salisbury
5   Springfield9-0295tvs. MIT
6   Salisbury7-2225tvs. #4 Frostburg State
7   Plymouth State9-1169tOpen Date
8   Husson8-1147vs. Mount Ida
9t  Framingham State8-189tvs. Worcester State
9t  Widener7-28NRat #1 Delaware Valley


Dropping Out:
Union


Also Receiving votes:               
Western New England 3
Ithaca 2
RPI 2
Amherst 1
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Delaware Valley (2,2,1,2,1)
Brockport State (1,1,3,1,3)
Wesley (3,3,2,3,2)
Frostburg State (4,4,4,4,4)
Springfield (5,5,5,5,6)
Salisbury (9,6,6,7,5)
Plymouth State (7,8,7,8,9)
Husson (6,7,9,9,10)
Framingham State (NR,NR,8,6,NR)
Widener (8,NR,NR,10,7)
Western New England (NR,NR,NR,NR,8)
Ithaca (NR,9,NR,NR,NR)
RPI (NR,10,10,NR,NR)
Amherst (10,NR,NR,NR,NR)


Key Matchups:
#4 Frostburg State at #6 Salisbury
#9t Widener at #1 Delaware Valley
#6
Week 9 Fan Poll 

       Team                RecordPointsLast RatingNext Week
1   Brockport State ( 3 )8-0481tvs. Alfred
2   Delaware Valley ( 2 )8-0471tat Misericordia
3   Wesley7-1403vs. #5t Salisbury
4   Frostburg State7-1344vs. Kean
5t  Salisbury7-1276at #3 Wesley
5t  Springfield8-0275at Maine Maritime
7   Husson7-1178vs. Alfred State
8   Union7-1127at Ithaca
9t  Framingham State7-169tvs. Western Connecticut
9t  Plymouth State8-169tat Fitchburg State


Also Receiving votes:               
Trinity 4
Widener 4
Western Connecticut 3
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Brockport State (1,2,1,2,1)
Delaware Valley (2,1,2,1,2)
Wesley (3,3,3,3,3)
Frostburg State (4,4,5,4,4)
Salisbury (8,6,4,5,5)
Springfield (5,5,6,6,6)
Husson (6,7,7,10,8)
Union (7,8,8,NR,9)
Framingham State (NR,10,9,8,NR)
Plymouth State (10,9,10,9,NR)
Trinity (NR,NR,NR,NR,7)
Widener (NR,NR,NR,7,NR)
Western Connecticut (9,NR,NR,NR,10)


Key Matchups:
#5t Salisbury at #3 Wesley
#7
Week 8 Fan Poll 

       Team                RecordPointsLast RatingNext Week
1t  Brockport State ( 3 )7-0471tat Buffalo State
1t  Delaware Valley ( 2 )7-0471tvs. Lebanon Valley
3   Wesley6-1413at Montclair State
4   Frostburg State6-1354at Southern Virginia
5   Springfield8-0285Open Date
6   Salisbury6-1266vs. Rowan
7   Union7-112NROpen Date
8   Husson6-110NRat Anna Maria
9t  Framingham State6-1710tat Mass-Dartmouth
9t  Plymouth State7-178tvs. Westfield State


Dropping Out:
Alfred
Albright
Hobart


Also Receiving votes:               
Trinity 4
Widener 4
Christopher Newport 3
Cortland State 2
RPI 1
Western Connecticut 1
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Brockport State (3,1,2,1,1)
Delaware Valley (1,2,1,2,2)
Wesley (2,3,3,3,3)
Frostburg State (4,4,4,4,4)
Springfield (5,5,6,6,5)
Salisbury (6,6,5,5,7)
Union (9,8,NR,9,6)
Husson (8,7,NR,8,NR)
Framingham State (10,10,9,NR,8)
Plymouth State (7,9,10,NR,NR)
Trinity (NR,NR,NR,7,NR)
Widener (NR,NR,7,NR,NR)
Christopher Newport (NR,NR,8,NR,NR)
Cortland State (NR,NR,NR,NR,9)
RPI (NR,NR,NR,NR,10)
Western Connecticut (NR,NR,NR,10,NR)
#8
Week 7 Fan Poll 

       Team                RecordPointsLast RatingNext Week
1t  Brockport State ( 3 )6-0471tvs. Hartwick
1t  Delaware Valley ( 2 )7-0471tOpen Date
3   Wesley5-1413vs. Rowan
4   Frostburg State5-1354vs. Montclair State
5   Springfield7-0287vs. Catholic
6   Salisbury5-1258vs. Southern Virginia
7   Alfred5-1155vs. RPI
8t  Albright5-169at Stevenson
8t  Plymouth State6-16NRat Massachusetts Maritime
10t Framingham State5-156vs. Westfield State
10t Hobart5-25NRat Union


Dropping Out:
Christopher Newport
Stevenson


Also Receiving votes:               
Christopher Newport 4
Trinity 4
Widener 4
Cortland State 2
Western Connecticut 1
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Brockport State (1,2,1,1,3)
Delaware Valley (2,1,2,2,1)
Wesley (3,3,3,3,2)
Frostburg State (4,4,4,4,4)
Springfield (5,6,6,5,5)
Salisbury (6,5,5,8,6)
Alfred (7,9,8,6,10)
Albright (NR,NR,9,7,NR)
Plymouth State (9,NR,NR,NR,7)
Framingham State (10,NR,NR,10,8)
Hobart (NR,8,NR,9,NR)
Christopher Newport (8,10,NR,NR,NR)
Trinity (NR,NR,7,NR,NR)
Widener (NR,7,NR,NR,NR)
Cortland State (NR,NR,NR,NR,9)
Western Connecticut (NR,NR,10,NR,NR)
#9
Week 6 Fan Poll 

       Team                RecordPointsLast RatingNext Week
1t  Brockport State ( 3 )5-0471vs. Morrisville State
1t  Delaware Valley ( 2 )6-0472vs. King's
3   Wesley4-1404vs. Kean
4   Frostburg State4-1333at William Paterson
5   Alfred5-0305at Cortland
6   Framingham State5-0276at Plymouth State
7   Springfield6-0187tat Merchant Marine
8   Salisbury4-113NRat Montclair State
9   Albright5-169Open Date
10t Christopher Newport4-247tOpen Date
10t Stevenson3-2410at Lebanon Valley


Also Receiving votes:               
Trinity 3
Hobart 1
Husson 1
Ithaca 1
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Brockport State (2,1,1,3,1)
Delaware Valley (1,2,2,1,2)
Wesley (3,3,4,2,3)
Frostburg State (4,4,5,5,4)
Alfred (6,5,3,6,5)
Framingham State (5,6,6,4,7)
Springfield (10,7,7,7,6)
Salisbury (8,8,9,9,8)
Albright (NR,NR,8,8,NR)
Christopher Newport (9,NR,NR,NR,9)
Stevenson (7,NR,NR,NR,NR)
Trinity (NR,9,10,NR,NR)
Hobart (NR,NR,NR,NR,10)
Husson (NR,NR,NR,10,NR)
Ithaca (NR,10,NR,NR,NR)
#10
Week 5 Fan Poll 

       Team                RecordPointsLast RatingNext Week
1   Brockport State ( 3 )5-0471Open Date
2   Delaware Valley ( 2 )5-0452at #9 Albright
3   Frostburg State4-0423vs. #4 Wesley
4   Wesley3-1344at #3 Frostburg State
5   Alfred4-0315at St. John Fisher
6   Framingham State4-0228at Fitchburg State
7t  Christopher Newport4-116NRat Salisbury
7t  Springfield5-0169at Coast Guard
9   Albright5-0156vs. #2 Delaware Valley
10  Stevenson3-23NROpen Date


Dropping Out:
Buffalo State
Hobart


Also Receiving votes:               
Salisbury 2
Trinity 2
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Brockport State (1,1,3,1,2)
Delaware Valley (3,3,1,2,1)
Frostburg State (2,2,2,3,4)
Wesley (4,5,4,5,3)
Alfred (5,4,5,4,6)
Framingham State (6,9,6,7,5)
Christopher Newport (9,8,7,8,7)
Springfield (8,7,8,6,10)
Albright (7,6,9,9,9)
Stevenson (NR,NR,NR,NR,8)
Salisbury (NR,NR,10,10,NR)
Trinity (10,10,NR,NR,NR)


Key Matchups:
#2 Delaware Valley at #9 Albright
#4 Wesley at #3 Frostburg State
#11
Week 4 Fan Poll 

       Team                RecordPointsLast RatingNext Week
1   Brockport State ( 4 )4-0471at Cortland
2   Delaware Valley ( 1 )4-0443at FDU-Florham
3   Frostburg State4-0422Open Date
4   Wesley2-1334vs. Southern Virginia
5   Alfred3-0305vs. #10 Buffalo State
6   Albright4-0206at King's
7   Hobart3-1197at Ithaca
8   Framingham State4-0189Open Date
9   Springfield4-0108vs. Norwich
10  Buffalo State3-06NRat #5 Alfred


Dropping Out:
RPI


Also Receiving votes:               
Christopher Newport 5
Stevenson 1
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Brockport State (1,4,1,1,1)
Delaware Valley (3,1,2,2,3)
Frostburg State (2,2,3,4,2)
Wesley (7,3,5,3,4)
Alfred (4,5,4,7,5)
Albright (5,7,8,8,7)
Hobart (6,8,6,5,NR)
Framingham State (10,6,9,6,6)
Springfield (8,NR,7,NR,8)
Buffalo State (9,10,10,NR,9)
Christopher Newport (NR,9,NR,9,10)
Stevenson (NR,NR,NR,10,NR)


Key Matchups:
#10 Buffalo State at #5 Alfred
#12
Week 3 Fan Poll 

       Team                RecordPointsLast RatingNext Week
1   Brockport State ( 4 )3-0481tvs. Utica
2   Frostburg State ( 1 )3-0441tat Christopher Newport
3   Delaware Valley3-0421tvs. Stevenson
4   Wesley1-1305at William Paterson
5   Alfred2-0236vs. Rochester
6   Albright3-0204vs. Widener
7   Hobart2-1187vs. Endicott
8   Springfield3-0149vs. WPI
9   Framingham State3-01210vs. Massachusetts Maritime
10  RPI3-09NRat Buffalo State


Dropping Out:
Salibury


Also Receiving votes:               
Christopher Newport 6
Salisbury 4
Stevenson 4
Buffalo State 1
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Brockport State (3,1,1,1,1)
Frostburg State (1,2,4,2,2)
Delaware Valley (2,3,2,3,3)
Wesley (4,6,3,5,7)
Alfred (NR,4,9,4,4)
Albright (10,8,5,7,5)
Hobart (9,5,6,NR,6)
Springfield (6,7,NR,9,8)
Framingham State (5,NR,NR,6,10)
RPI (7,NR,NR,8,9)
Christopher Newport (8,9,10,NR,NR)
Salisbury (NR,10,8,NR,NR)
Stevenson (NR,NR,7,NR,NR)
Buffalo State (NR,NR,NR,10,NR)
#13
Quote from: D3MAFAN on September 11, 2017, 10:24:31 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 11, 2017, 10:16:20 AM

I will start the conversation.  What has Wesley done to remain #3?  They lost the only game they played and their starting QB is out for the rest of the season.  The backup has no track record of anything and just because Wesley has been able to replace QB's before does not mean this will work out as usual.  Trust me, I think I know how good they are going to end up being, but at this point in the season I almost removed them from the top 10 and may have if a few teams had not lost this weekend.  Not a big fan of using reputation as a barometer, rather like using the what have you actually done so far method.  Also not sure about Hobart and Salisbury, but at least they did win this week.  There are some pretty good 2-0 teams out there right now, but they lack the reputation.

Having had the opportunity to watch you guys in person and online. Similar to some of the Top 25 voters, Wesley has the best loss. The ability for you guys to reload is amazing and I think that having a bye-week and having 3 very winnable games over the next month will help this new QB. Wesley could easily be number 1, but to drop them below 5, just doesn't make sense to me, maybe if they lose to or have a close game with TCNJ, I would lower them on my ranking. How many teams other than Delaware Valley has beaten Wesley over the last 5 years, I can only think of Salisbury a few years back, but as I recall it took them a while to that.

It's much easier to quibble with individual votes, but less so with the aggregate.  I like how the varying schools of thought on some teams settle based on the votes and then teams clump together (more than can be done with an individual 1-10 ranking).  It'll be interesting to see how the three current tiers shake out going forward.
#14
Week 2 Fan Poll 

       Team                RecordPointsLast RatingNext Week
1t  Frostburg State ( 3 )2-0442at Christopher Newport
1t  Brockport State ( 1 )2-0443at St. John Fisher
1t  Delaware Valley ( 1 )2-0441at Wilkes
4   Albright2-0325tat Lycoming
5   Wesley0-1294at TCNJ
6   Alfred1-0275tvs. Utica
7   Hobart1-1179tvs. Shenandoah
8   Salisbury1-1107at Kean
9   Springfield2-09NRat Mount Ida
10  Framingham State2-08NRat Bridgewater State


Also Receiving votes:               
Buffalo State 3
RPI 3
Stevenson 3
Christopher Newport 2
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Frostburg State (1,5,1,3,1)
Brockport State (2,2,2,1,4)
Delaware Valley (3,1,3,2,2)
Albright (4,4,5,4,6)
Wesley (7,3,6,7,3)
Alfred (5,9,4,5,5)
Hobart (6,7,NR,6,8)
Salisbury (9,6,NR,9,10)
Springfield (8,NR,10,8,9)
Framingham State (NR,NR,7,NR,7)
Buffalo State (NR,NR,8,NR,NR)
RPI (NR,NR,9,10,NR)
Stevenson (NR,8,NR,NR,NR)
Christopher Newport (10,10,NR,NR,NR)
#15
I'd categorize my rankings as a mix of art and science.  I try to balance my expectations for each team going forward - kind of a "who would win" subjective test - with what has actually occurred so far in the season.  Starting the year, I like to look at the point differential from the previous year to try and identify an initial core of teams to consider, then make adjustments due to graduation and on field results.  I also like to consider close games in light of which team was at home, so losing by 2 points on the road will cause me to consider both teams roughly equal, though a skim of the game log (or view of the stream if I was able to catch it) can highlight oddities to the final score which I'll also consider. 

So, all of that to say, I like to look at the standings, scores, rankings in multiple ways and likely gain a slightly different result than other pollsters.  What I love about the ERFP is that the aggregate, and its nuance of ranks, is fairly agreeable to all.  Even if a computer provided 20% of the rankings this week!