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Baldini

Quote from: BigRedScots on December 24, 2019, 09:14:43 AM
IMO, Muhlenberg doesn't belong in the top 15. From what I saw, if they play in the CCIW, MIAC, OAC or WIAC they aren't even in the playoffs.

Also, after watching the Aurora vs SJU game... I'd put Aurora in the top 15. Up 10 with 4min to go and should have won. They were better than Muhlenberg for sure.

Muhlenberg loses their playoff game with North Central 45-14 and they don't belong in the top 15. UW-Whitewater loses to North Central 41-14 and they just run into a buzz saw and should be #2 in the final poll.

Masseys ratings as of now has Muhlenberg 4th, ahead of UW-W, St. John's and MHB. Hanson ratings currently shows Muhlenberg 8th. Simulating games on Massey shows us these results.

Muhlenberg 21, UW-W 17
Muhlenberg 28, St. John's 24
Muhlenberg 24, MHB 17

Just a messenger pointing out that the computer system ratings do not agree with your assessment.   

USee

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 24, 2019, 12:47:23 PM
The AFCA voters definitely respect that the Mules were 13-1. Win-loss record traditionally is the overwhleming factor in where the AFCA voters rank teams.

They apparently also respect Mt Union at #7, but that doesn't really fit Mr. Credibility's narrative so we shouldn't mention it.  8-)

SpartanHouse

Quote from: Baldini on December 26, 2019, 07:39:21 PM
Quote from: BigRedScots on December 24, 2019, 09:14:43 AM
IMO, Muhlenberg doesn't belong in the top 15. From what I saw, if they play in the CCIW, MIAC, OAC or WIAC they aren't even in the playoffs.

Also, after watching the Aurora vs SJU game... I'd put Aurora in the top 15. Up 10 with 4min to go and should have won. They were better than Muhlenberg for sure.

Muhlenberg loses their playoff game with North Central 45-14 and they don't belong in the top 15. UW-Whitewater loses to North Central 41-14 and they just run into a buzz saw and should be #2 in the final poll.

Masseys ratings as of now has Muhlenberg 4th, ahead of UW-W, St. John's and MHB. Hanson ratings currently shows Muhlenberg 8th. Simulating games on Massey shows us these results.

Muhlenberg 21, UW-W 17
Muhlenberg 28, St. John's 24
Muhlenberg 24, MHB 17

Just a messenger pointing out that the computer system ratings do not agree with your assessment.   

I personally don't put any validity to computer rankings. Muhlenberg didn't pass the eye test when they had the opportunity on a national stage.

I think the three best teams this year were Wheaton, NCC & Mount Union. Wheaton decided to play their worst fans if the year in the elite 8. After the top 3...I think there's a drop off.

Just one mans opinion.

Where would you put Muhlenberg? If they would drawn SJU or UWW's draw...how far do they go?

markerickson

Wet blanket alert.  I read that NCC's star RB, who this year led D3 in rushing yards, total O, and TDs, is a D1 transfer.  The Purple Raiders have historically relied on D1 transfers to win national championships.  There is a clear difference between D1 and D3 talent in football.
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USee

Their QB and Gagliardi winner is also a D1 transfer as well as a couple others.  Wheaton had at least 5 D1 transfers this year. It's much more prevalent than ever before to transfer. Definitely not unique

SpartanHouse

I think you will see more and more transfers to NCC and Wheaton w the success they are having. If we are honest, kids want to go to scholarship schools out of HS and it's hard to convince a family to come play D3 ball for 45k and up.

Great that the CCIW is getting some solid transfers. It's how D3 is won.

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CardinalAlum

Quote from: markerickson on December 28, 2019, 11:31:32 AM
Wet blanket alert.  I read that NCC's star RB, who this year led D3 in rushing yards, total O, and TDs, is a D1 transfer.  The Purple Raiders have historically relied on D1 transfers to win national championships.  There is a clear difference between D1 and D3 talent in football.

Incorrect.  Greenfield graduated from Lakes High School in 2018 and was a regular contributor last year as a freshman.
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CardinalAlum

Quote from: Stagg Again!! on December 28, 2019, 04:21:32 PM
Congratulations to Broc Rutter for receiving an invitation to play at the 74th Hula Bowl All Star Game on 1/26/20.  The game is currently scheduled to be televised live on CBS with a 9:30 p.m. CST kickoff.

https://www.hulabowl.com/

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robertgoulet

Quote from: CardinalAlum on December 28, 2019, 05:41:15 PM
Quote from: markerickson on December 28, 2019, 11:31:32 AM
Wet blanket alert.  I read that NCC's star RB, who this year led D3 in rushing yards, total O, and TDs, is a D1 transfer.  The Purple Raiders have historically relied on D1 transfers to win national championships.  There is a clear difference between D1 and D3 talent in football.

Incorrect.  Greenfield graduated from Lakes High School in 2018 and was a regular contributor last year as a freshman.

Im guessing he meant star WR. He was a D2 transfer. Rutter was 1-AA.
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Dr. Acula

Quote from: markerickson on December 28, 2019, 11:31:32 AM
Wet blanket alert.  I read that NCC's star RB, who this year led D3 in rushing yards, total O, and TDs, is a D1 transfer.  The Purple Raiders have historically relied on D1 transfers to win national championships.  There is a clear difference between D1 and D3 talent in football.

This is also comically false so it looks like this is just an all around excellent post by Mark.

markerickson

I did not fact check the announcer during the championship game when he said Greenfield transferred from Indiana State.  The announcer was wrong as the transfer from Indiana State was QB Rutter.  Not sure what your point is as Rutter, the Gagliardi winner, solidifies my position about D1 transfers.  I did not fact check in years past the Mount Union roster when the announcer mentioned during the televised championship games that xxx player transferred from "Ohio State" and other D1 programs.
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thunderdog

Clemson RB just spiked the ball after scoring the go-ahead TD vs OSU... and no one said boo. Just sayin'

Mugsy

Quote from: thunderdog on December 28, 2019, 11:54:41 PM
Clemson RB just spiked the ball after scoring the go-ahead TD vs OSU... and no one said boo. Just sayin'

Didn't notice it initially, but he certainly did.  :-\
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Quote from: markerickson on December 28, 2019, 11:40:06 PM
I did not fact check the announcer during the championship game when he said Greenfield transferred from Indiana State.  The announcer was wrong as the transfer from Indiana State was QB Rutter.  Not sure what your point is as Rutter, the Gagliardi winner, solidifies my position about D1 transfers.  I did not fact check in years past the Mount Union roster when the announcer mentioned during the televised championship games that xxx player transferred from "Ohio State" and other D1 programs.

There definitely was one offensive lineman who transferred from Ohio State. So that's one player in the past 20 years. What else you got for this list?
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