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Title: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 31, 2005, 09:33:55 AM
Here is the new SCIAC baseball message board.

If you would like to volunteer to help us with this conference's message board, please contact either me or Pat Coleman.

We will need someone to post the respective members baseball hyperlinks and to keep them current.  I will discuss the other aspects of being a volunteer offline.

Thanks.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tezbaseball on December 31, 2005, 11:17:19 AM
For the love of the game I'll get it started.

SCIAC baseball link
http://www.thesciac.org/m-baseball/sporthome.htm

California Lutheran University
http://www.clusports.com/baseball/

California Institute of Technology
http://www.athletics.caltech.edu/sports/baseball/base.html

Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
http://cms.claremont.edu/varsitysports/baseballM/

University of La Verne
http://www.ulv.edu/athletics/teams/sport.phtml?u_id=5

Occidental College
http://departments.oxy.edu/athletics/baseball/index.html

Pomona-Pitzer
http://www.physical-education.pomona.edu/mens/baseball/

University of Redlands
http://www.redlands.edu/x888.xml

Whittier College
http://web.whittier.edu/athletics/baseball/index.html
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on December 31, 2005, 07:11:45 PM
This is great! Another way for us to discuss, aka- disagree, about SCIAC sports.  How do we get more peole to join this board?  Season gets underway pretty soon...
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 31, 2005, 08:40:33 PM
Word of mouth, man. Are you near or on campus? Let the baseball fans know.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on January 01, 2006, 02:26:16 PM
In recent years, several times Cal Tech has had to drop out of the official championship race because they didn't have enough pitchers to play all the games.  Will that happen again this year?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on January 02, 2006, 01:36:36 AM
I'll tell you whats going to happen this year Gray Fox....the Techsters are going to show the rest of the SCIAC what Cal Tech is all about.  They will win the SCIAC title on the last day of the season sending shock waves throughout D-III Baseball :D
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on January 02, 2006, 11:30:22 AM
That would be bigger than the Red Sox overcoming the "curse of the Bambino"! :P

Is Oxy overcoming the internal problems it has had in recent years?

Why isn't CLU in the top 25?  Has their program slipped?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on January 02, 2006, 07:06:29 PM
Gray Fox-  Not too sure if OXY has overcome whatever problems they had.  I know they have been pretty bad in the past few years so it would be nice to see OXY take some of that football magic and build a stronger program.
As far as CLU, it seems to me that they have slipped a little bit but it is a new year so who knows what will happen.  They have finished second the past few years so I would hardly say that they are slipping too much.  Pre-season rankings mean about as much to me as the BCS rankings.  I think I saw LaVerne in the top 10 which is a little weird to me.  They lost their best pitcher from last year (Scott Lindene) and they really didn't have a whole lot more.  WHo knows what will happen. 
Should be a great year on the diamond for the SCIAC...I just wish more people would come on here and discuss.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on January 10, 2006, 11:14:53 AM
Hmmmm, not too sure if anyone is still out there....anyways, the season is about to begin and I have one question about CLU.  I was driving through Thousand Oaks the other day and took a little detour by the campus to check on the new facilities they are building.  Gym looks great, baseball field is really nice, but there is nothing but the field.  No dugouts, stands, press box, concrete, anything!  Do they expect to play there or are they playing somewhere else??
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: ScrappyMcTavish on January 10, 2006, 12:53:57 PM
I was talking with one of OXY's baseball coaches last year and he told me that one of the reasons they have slipped a bit is that the school has raised their academic requirements considerably from years past.(Don't know why it affects baseball and not football) This fact has kept many potential players out of Oxy and pushed them to other schools in the area... Laverne, Cal Lutheran, Chapman, etc.

It is a great place to play though. Oxy and Pomona-Pitzer have loud and VERY loyal fans that constantly ride the opposing players. I loved coaching against them in my coaching career at a NAIA school.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 10, 2006, 02:00:41 PM
Quote from: ScrappyMcTavish on January 10, 2006, 12:53:57 PM
I was talking with one of OXY's baseball coaches last year and he told me that one of the reasons they have slipped a bit is that the school has raised their academic requirements considerably from years past.(Don't know why it affects baseball and not football)

Especially when you can have a D-1 College World Series with Rice playing Stanford! :)
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Sabretooth Tiger on January 10, 2006, 07:09:11 PM
It's not the academic standards that have caused the program to suffer . . . in my opinion.  There has been considerable turmoil in the program that killed the team and killed recruiting.  A few years ago the players essentially revolted against the then long time coach, went to everyone in the administration and the loudest among them led what was basically a walk-out.

That was killer.  Year or so passes, coach leaves, new coach hired, he lasts about a season for reasons unclear to me.

Program is moribund.  New coach in place since last spring, new assistants as well.  So you've got a program that has been fubared for the last 3-4 years with virtually no recruiting ongoing . . . killed the program at a time where most others were on a big upswing along with the rest of the institution.

Tougher to get into now?  Absolutely . . . but as noted, that has not hurt the football program, or the basketball program (top 25 baby).  Coaching turnover is what hurts.  Look at women's volleyball that lost its coach at the start of the season.  Really tough.

A little consistency with the baseball coaching staff and a few years of recruiting should get the program back on track.  There is great alumni support so hopefully we'll see some improvement this year and continued through the coming years. 

Only time will tell.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: ScrappyMcTavish on January 11, 2006, 06:12:20 PM
Key Matchups in D3 Baseball on the West Coast:

Feb:
   4th/5th- Cal Lutheran vs Chapman (3 Games)
   17th/18th- McMurry(TX) @ Chapman (3 Games)
   
Mar:
   3rd/4th- Cal Lutheran vs. Pomona- Pitzer (3 Games)
   9th- Ithaca(NY) @ Chapman
   11th- Montclair State @ Chapman
   11th, 12th, 13th- Kean(NJ) @ Pomona-Pitzer (3 Games)
   14th- Kean(NJ) @ Chapman
   15th- Montclair State @ Pomona Pitzer
   24th- Eastern Conn. @ Chapman
   25th- Weslyan(CT) @ Chapman

Apr:
   7th/8th- Pomona-Pitzer vs Laverne (3 Games)
   28th/29th- Cal Lutheran vs Laverne (3 Games)
 
May:
  5th/6th/7th- Chapman @ George Fox(OR)

Should make for some great small school baseball on the left coast. I am planning on catching quite a few of these games.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on January 12, 2006, 10:28:41 AM
My rankings for SCIAC baseball settings would go.

1) CMC
2) Oxy
3) Pomona
4) Redlands
5) Cal Lu
6) La Verne
7) Whittier
8) Cal-Tech
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: ScrappyMcTavish on January 12, 2006, 10:40:38 AM
Quote from: pomonaalum on January 12, 2006, 10:28:41 AM
My rankings for SCIAC baseball settings would go.

1) CMC
2) Oxy
3) Pomona
4) Redlands
5) Cal Lu
6) La Verne
7) Whittier
8) Cal-Tech

Interesting predictions... why so low for Cal Lutheran and LaVerne? Surely there must be some basis for putting two perrenial SCIAC powers so low.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on January 12, 2006, 11:55:56 AM
Hey guys and gals.  Check out the newest issue of Sports Illustrated and read rick Rileys column in the very back.  SCIAC and Cal tech gettin some love.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on January 12, 2006, 12:01:09 PM
Pomonaalum-  You must be kidding me about the SCIAC "rankings".  How in the hell do you put a team that has won back-to-back SCIAC titles finishing second from the bottom and a team that has never finished lower than 2nd, third from the bottom.  Did the entire USC Baseball team transfer to CMS?  Surely you must be smokin' some good stuff but I would love to hear your logic.  OXY in second place  :o ???
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: ScrappyMcTavish on January 12, 2006, 12:53:12 PM
Quote from: Tom Brady on January 12, 2006, 12:01:09 PM
Pomonaalum-  You must be kidding me about the SCIAC "rankings".  How in the hell do you put a team that has won back-to-back SCIAC titles finishing second from the bottom and a team that has never finished lower than 2nd, third from the bottom.  Did the entire USC Baseball team transfer to CMS?  Surely you must be smokin' some good stuff but I would love to hear your logic.  OXY in second place  :o ???


Tom Brady- my thoughts exactly, but I was too nice to say it. I was taking the politically correct route!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: rbaikie on January 12, 2006, 04:15:09 PM
To anybody who knows SCIAC sports -

I know Cal Tech fileds teams in a number of sports.

What happens with their baseball team? They have a real short schedule posted and only play 7 or so games against SCIAC teams - yet the website references that a number of Cal Tech players have made made all conference - With such a short schedule, are they still eligible forr all conf? How does the SCIAC consider these games? (I would guess that they have n obearing on the conf standings and are like JV or non-conf games.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on January 12, 2006, 04:27:49 PM
Often, Cal Tech lacks enough pitchers to have a full schedule.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on January 12, 2006, 05:06:39 PM
Read my post again - it says settings, as in places to play, not standings.

CMS wins with the Stanford-esque pine trees.
Oxy is pretty nice with the hillside and all.
Pomona has a beautiful field - somewhat funny dimensions, and the setting could be better, but pretty good.
If Cal Lu has done something with their field, it's been since I played there.
Redlands was ok, except smoggy and hot as hell.
Never cared for LaVerne's facility or its location, jammed into the middle of campus.
Whittier was always really dusty and has no character.
Cal Tech is Cal Tech.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Sabretooth Tiger on January 12, 2006, 05:14:23 PM
Cal Tech was in the process of building some new facilities, including a new baseball facility, last year.  It should be open by now, but I have not seen it.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on January 14, 2006, 11:08:59 PM
Ahhhhh ha Pomonaalum, my bad.
Cal Lu has built a brand new field.  It looks really nice but there is a lot of construction going on out there but it is a step up from the field they had before.  A lot of really nice parks in the SCIAC.  First pitch is coming up quickly.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tezbaseball on January 15, 2006, 03:18:17 PM
Cal Tech might want to give this guy a call

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060115/ap_on_fe_st/rubik_s_world_record
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Olinemom on January 16, 2006, 12:37:31 AM
Quote from: Tom Brady on January 10, 2006, 11:14:53 AM
Hmmmm, not too sure if anyone is still out there....anyways, the season is about to begin and I have one question about CLU.  I was driving through Thousand Oaks the other day and took a little detour by the campus to check on the new facilities they are building.  Gym looks great, baseball field is really nice, but there is nothing but the field.  No dugouts, stands, press box, concrete, anything!  Do they expect to play there or are they playing somewhere else??

Well, believe me they play out there.  It was like that last year, mud everywhere.  It seemed far away from campus in the middle of nowhere.  But they were very hospitable,  ;D  Beat us in the last inning of a very long game.  We also played Laverne, and Chapman.  We have played Pomona-P, Claremont and a couple of others in previous years.  We have played Whittier several times.  What a spectacular field setting!  Well, except for how left field that goes sharply up the hill.    If I had to choose though, I think that Redlands has the prettiest campus with the mountain rising up out of center field.  Wow, what a beautiful field that was.  Sure wish we'd go back there one time.  But the Baseball Mom doesn't make those decisions.  She makes brownies (amazing how much she is like the Olinemom, tee hee!!), she cheers her players along and she enjoys the sport.  She has already made plans for the ACC Baseball Tournament in Jacksonville in May and the USA TEAM events in Durham this summer , several weekends with UTenn and U.Miami, UVa, Florida State.  It's going to be a crowded spring along with my BC guys!!  Sleep, I hear,  is highly over-rated.  Pray that gas prices go down a smidge!!  Unfornately this year is our year for going to Atlanta and to Lagrange so no California :( :( :(.    Next year is the biggie.  For my 60th birthday, I'm going to

OMAHA
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on January 17, 2006, 12:30:59 PM
Olinemom- You are confusing me a little bit by speaking in third person a little bit.  Anyways,  the field you were at last year at CLU must have been the off campus temp. field they were forced to play on due to construction of the new field.    Have a great 60th in Omaha.  I went about 10 years ago and it was probably the coolest thing I have ever done.  Bring your eatin' shoes though cause there is plenty of great food all over that beautiful city.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Olinemom on January 17, 2006, 03:35:51 PM
Quote from: Tom Brady on January 17, 2006, 12:30:59 PM
Olinemom- You are confusing me a little bit by speaking in third person a little bit.  Anyways,  the field you were at last year at CLU must have been the off campus temp. field they were forced to play on due to construction of the new field.    Have a great 60th in Omaha.  I went about 10 years ago and it was probably the coolest thing I have ever done.  Bring your eatin' shoes though cause there is plenty of great food all over that beautiful city.

I know, I sometimes confuse myself, but I can't wait to go to Omaha!!  I am glued to the TV for every game.  I know that you see the games better when you watch on the tube, but you miss the excitement.  I just have to go once.  Well, maybe more than once.    By the way I like your name choice!!  I was sorry he really got hammered the other day.  I was 1 for 4 on the weekend.  Boo hiss!! 
     As to eating --if I can afford to get there and stay there for the series, I may have to go the PB&J route.  You know school teachers don't get the big bucks. ;D  But it's a goal of mine.  Thanks for the encouragement!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tezbaseball on January 22, 2006, 12:27:10 AM
Interesting site. You can see by where a MLB player went to school.

http://baseballreference.com/schools/
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on January 24, 2006, 01:49:40 PM
Who starts the season first in the SCIAC.  Any big matchups right off the bat in conference?  Lets go people...
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on January 24, 2006, 02:55:02 PM
No schedules yet posted in the SCIAC website designed by College Sports Online, Inc.

They also do the ASC website, and schedules were not posted there either. ???
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on January 24, 2006, 04:08:28 PM
You can get schedule of the individual school websites. I dont the SCIaC website lists them other than the conference games.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on January 24, 2006, 05:11:33 PM
Sometimes I'm too lazy to do that.  Especially when having them all in one place is so much easier.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on January 24, 2006, 07:11:51 PM
I know the feeling... I am waiting for someone to post them for me.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on January 26, 2006, 03:18:18 PM
PP opens up with a doubleheader at Westmont this weekend.  Not sure what they have coming back - lost Turner to graduation, among others.  Think they have some decent pitching returning, but not sure about the offense.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on January 26, 2006, 04:03:01 PM
Pomona should sweep Westmont who is a very weak NAIA. They routinely get pounded in their conference.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on January 27, 2006, 02:50:29 PM
Agree that Westmont is not one of the better GSAC programs - nice setting for a field, though.    APU and Biola have been pretty good...
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on January 27, 2006, 03:43:47 PM
Quote from: pomonaalum on January 27, 2006, 02:50:29 PM
Agree that Westmont is not one of the better GSAC programs - nice setting for a field, though.    APU and Biola have been pretty good...

Biola has been one of the nation's top NAIA teams for a few years now... Azusa-Pacific is a quality program and Point Loma has also been nails in that conference. Look for Cal-Baptist to  make a run to the top this year. GSAC is a great NAIA conference for baseball. Quite a few players drafted every year.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: David Collinge on January 29, 2006, 01:27:22 AM
Cal Lu makes the AP wire and ESPN.com:

Sparky Anderson Honored by California Lutheran (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2310235)

Nice pub.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 29, 2006, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: David Collinge on January 29, 2006, 01:27:22 AM
Cal Lu makes the AP wire and ESPN.com:

Sparky Anderson Honored by California Lutheran (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2310235)

Nice pub.

Congratulations to Cal Lu.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on January 29, 2006, 03:02:49 PM
Pomona split a twin bill with Westmont.  Won the 1st game 5-3, lost the the second game pretty big.  At least a couple of freshmen in the lineup for PP.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on January 29, 2006, 11:40:43 PM
I went to the Sparky dedication at CLU on Saturday and it was great.  There were a lot of people there (over 500) and the atmosphere really shows what D-III athletics are all about.  The new field is great a dn when it is done, it will be one of the best in D-III.  I watched a little bit of the game, but left after the game got a little ugly.  The current team startedout a little slow but had a big inning where they scored about 10 runs.  Saw a kid hit an absolute bomb to left-center.  It takes a little bit of juice to get the ball out of the park, much different than the old field.  Looks like some games coming up this week in the SCIAC, good luck to all.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on January 29, 2006, 11:42:50 PM
I went to the Sparky dedication at CLU on Saturday and it was great.  There were a lot of people there (over 500) and the atmosphere really shows what D-III athletics are all about.  The new field is great a dn when it is done, it will be one of the best in D-III.  I watched a little bit of the game, but left after the game got a little ugly.  The current team startedout a little slow but had a big inning where they scored about 10 runs.  Saw a kid hit an absolute bomb to left-center.  It takes a little bit of juice to get the ball out of the park, much different than the old field.  Looks like some games coming up this week in the SCIAC, good luck to all.

The story even made some national news

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2310235

Here are a few more stories from the local paper.

http://www.venturacountystar.com/vcs/college/article/0,1375,VCS_137_4425153,00.html

http://www.venturacountystar.com/vcs/sports_columnists/article/0,1375,VCS_225_4425192,00.html
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: coachb on January 31, 2006, 05:53:28 PM
Congrats to Cal Lu... always nice to get good publicity in the paper. A new field will be a big boost for recruiting.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on February 01, 2006, 11:07:33 AM
I think the new facilities will help Cal Lu as a school, but will help ALL sports bring in the kids that go to other schools because of their facilities.  I don't think any kid will be able to use that excuse anymore.  There are some pretty nice facilities around the SCIAC, but none will match the new ones at Cal Lu......that is of course, when they are done...
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 02, 2006, 04:01:23 PM
One of the problem SCIAC teams face in recruiting is that they are located in the middle os the GSAC(NAIA) and CCAA(NCAA D2) conferences. All three of these conferences are chasing the same ball players... the GSAC and CCAA school can use scholarships to real in the recruits.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 02, 2006, 08:56:10 PM
Big Poppa, one thing that I wonder is that there are so many baseball players in California.  The population of California is so great, that I would expect plenty of talent on a per capita basis.

Also,  I would expect some of the talent coming out of the JUCO's would realize that they are not going to the majors, and then would concentrate on getting their education.

Also, the opportunity to attempt a prestigeous academic program and play ball might make it attractive.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 02, 2006, 09:25:07 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 02, 2006, 08:56:10 PM

Also,  I would expect some of the talent coming out of the JUCO's would realize that they are not going to the majors, and then would concentrate on getting their education.


Ralph, good points, but I have coached JUCO and NAIA in So Cal and most every JUCO player thinks he is either getting drafted or signing a scholarship. Looking at the rosters of the SCIAC schools, I would bet that there are very few JUCO kids, if any. Most JUCO kids here will take a partial ride to a tiny school in the middle of nowhere (Kansas, North Dakota, etc.) rather than "lose face" and stay and play for a quality school like Cal Lu, Chapman, Pomona, LaVerne, etc... It's sad, but I see it every year.

I know of many kids who left a program they were playing in to sit the bench at another where the coach had "connections." Maybe I am wrong, but I wanted to play in the games.

California JUCOs are also raided by most D1 school in the nation. We routinely had coaches from 50-100 D1 schools at the fall showcases. D3 coaches did not waste their time recruiting those showcases becaue they had no $$$ to offer a kid. When I was coaching an NAIA school, I lived for the JUCO showcase to try to scoop up players that fell through the D1 cracks and the D3 coaches were not there to compete for those same kids.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 02, 2006, 11:01:52 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 02, 2006, 09:25:07 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 02, 2006, 08:56:10 PM

Also,  I would expect some of the talent coming out of the JUCO's would realize that they are not going to the majors, and then would concentrate on getting their education.


Ralph, good points, but I have coached JUCO and NAIA in So Cal and most every JUCO player thinks he is either getting drafted or signing a scholarship. Looking at the rosters of the SCIAC schools, I would bet that there are very few JUCO kids, if any. Most JUCO kids here will take a partial ride to a tiny school in the middle of nowhere (Kansas, North Dakota, etc.) rather than "lose face" and stay and play for a quality school like Cal Lu, Chapman, Pomona, LaVerne, etc... It's sad, but I see it every year.

I know of many kids who left a program they were playing in to sit the bench at another where the coach had "connections." Maybe I am wrong, but I wanted to play in the games.

California JUCOs are also raided by most D1 school in the nation. We routinely had coaches from 50-100 D1 schools at the fall showcases. D3 coaches did not waste their time recruiting those showcases becaue they had no $$$ to offer a kid. When I was coaching an NAIA school, I lived for the JUCO showcase to try to scoop up players that fell through the D1 cracks and the D3 coaches were not there to compete for those same kids.

Very cogent post!  Thanks Big Poppa.  Those JUCO kids are going all over the country!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on February 03, 2006, 04:40:04 PM
CLU used to have a bunch of JUCOs, LaVerne and Redlands had a number as well.  Don't know if that is changing at all.
May be some academic issues at play with some of the JUCO kids as well.  From a financial standpoint, it's also a big jump from a JUCO to a 4-year state school, not to mention to a private university or college.

There is an unbelievable amount of baseball talent just in the Southland region.  By the team kids reach the college level, they generally have played much more baseball than kids from the Midwest or East Coast.  From high school to summer ball to fall ball - the weather certainly helps.  It was one of the big reasons I ended up at Pomona...
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 03, 2006, 05:48:55 PM
Pomonaalum... where did originally start if you eneded up landing at Pomona? I can only assume it was out of state?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on February 03, 2006, 05:53:27 PM
Went to HS on the East Coast, entered Pomona as a freshman.  One of the primary draws was being able to play baseball year round, and not have to play basically your entire conference schedule compressed into one week in March in Florida...I still remember being amazed at the start of practice being in early January - a novel concept for someone used to being on frozen fields until March at the earliest.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 03, 2006, 06:48:51 PM
I know the wonders of baseball without snow flurries... I grew up and played my college ball in the midwest.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 05, 2006, 05:00:59 PM
Chapman and Cal Lutheran squared off in a three game series this weekend and Chapman took 2 of 3 winning the opener 7-3... Cal Lutheran came back to beat them 11-10 in the second game and Chapman took the third game 6-4. It's nice to have baseball back again.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on February 05, 2006, 07:50:03 PM
Looks like Pomona-Pitzer took 2 of 3 from Lewis & Clark.  Chapman coming up next weekend - should be a good test of where they are.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on February 06, 2006, 08:58:57 AM
My guess of where they will be.......getting dominated by Chapmans #13 (Klovsted or close to that).  I watched the guy pitch the other day and he is good.  Chapman did not impress me all that much, but neither did Cal Lu.  I guess their bats woke up on Sat.  Now it looks like they forgot to take their gloves.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on February 07, 2006, 10:38:02 PM
Any other scores to report???
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Sabretooth Tiger on February 08, 2006, 11:33:38 AM
Oxy's website reports that the Tigers beat Simpson College (CA) 3-2 and 14-4 this past Saturday.  I've never heard of Simpson.  They played the alumni game on Sunday.  Don't know how that went.

This weekend, Oxy hosts Willamette for a doubleheader on Saturday and a single game on Sunday.  I imagine that this will be a better test for the Tigers as an indicator of how they will fare against their opponents this year. 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 08, 2006, 11:43:44 AM
Simpson University, Redding CA in the California Pacific AC. NAIA-2

http://naia.collegesports.com/member-services/about/CaliforniaPacificAthletic.htm
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on February 08, 2006, 12:10:16 PM
Wow, what to step up the competition Oxy. ;D
Whats next?  A 3 game series with Cal Tech :D
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: rbaikie on February 08, 2006, 01:54:28 PM
NAIA-2 refers to Region 2-

NAIA is now only one division in pretty much everything except basketball.

Simpson technically is playing for the same playoff berths as Azusa, Biola, The Masters, and Westment, etc.

And fyi - Oxy does play 2 games against Cal Tech this year per Cal Tech's schedule!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 08, 2006, 03:31:25 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on February 08, 2006, 12:10:16 PM
Wow, what to step up the competition Oxy. ;D
Whats next?  A 3 game series with Cal Tech :D

Wildthing-
If you are going to bang Oxy for possibly playing Cal Tech, you need to bang your own alma mater, Pomona-Pitzer, for playing them as well... it's all the same conference.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 08, 2006, 04:14:26 PM
Quote from: rbaikie on February 08, 2006, 01:54:28 PM
NAIA-2 refers to Region 2-

NAIA is now only one division in pretty much everything except basketball.

Simpson technically is playing for the same playoff berths as Azusa, Biola, The Masters, and Westment, etc.

And fyi - Oxy does play 2 games against Cal Tech this year per Cal Tech's schedule!

Thanks rbaikie, I found Simpson under the NAIA-II link on the left sidebar of the NAIA .  Thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 08, 2006, 04:37:06 PM
I think that NAIA-II refers to the division of school(even though they are in region II) NAIA-I is schools that have scholarships and NAIA-II is schools that do not. The entire Cal-Pac conference falls into the NAIA-II division and it allows them to play NCAA- III as well. The GSAC is all NAIA-I schools.

Most NAIA-II teams may delcare which post season it is trying to qualify for(NAIA or NCAA-III) as most meet the NCAA-III requirements as well and are dual members. They would have to compete with scholarship schools in the NAIA, so most choose to play NCAA-III.

In a nutshell... Simpson is a non-scholarship school.

This I and II only applies to the basketball post season( 2 divisions) and has no bearing on the baseball seasons(1 division). 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: rbaikie on February 08, 2006, 08:28:24 PM
Big Poppa -

I'm not trying to be argumentative - just confused.

Based on what the NAIA says on their website -

Simpson may be non-athletic scholarship.

I know Menlo is - all aid is based on financial need, but the reference to division 2 as non scholarship sort of conflicts with the NAIA's statement that approx. 90% of NAIA schools offer athletic scholarships, doesn't it?

Just taking the raw numbers, they say that they have approx. 283 members overall so about 255 would offer some sort of athletic scholarships, so less than 30 don't offer athletic scholarships.  To me, something isn't fitting.

Also, Cal-Pac doesn't have baseball as an official sport -
The NAIA lists the GSAC and then a number of independents (5)  under Region 2 -

The weird thing is that Menlo is D3 for baseball and the NAIA still lists them with a notation that they do not participate in post season for baseball. (Same with Cal State - East Bay).
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 08, 2006, 09:57:33 PM
I think Menlo has a dual membership but chooses only to play the NCAA post season. They actually have a much better chance of making the NCAA postseaon than the NAIA due to all the NAIA schools in the GSAC offering $$ to kids for athletics.

Confused??? Well, I was a coach at an NAIA for three years and still never fully understood it all. It's a weird system with schools that are both NCAA/NAIA...

You may be right that all CAL-PAC schools are cosidered independents in NAIA Region II/ NCAA West Region... it's still a mystery to me.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on February 09, 2006, 02:00:02 AM
BigPopa-  I was just kidding around.  Somebody has to play Cal Tech, just not my Alma Mater Cal Lu, not Pomona.  No worries though.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 09, 2006, 10:57:08 AM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on February 09, 2006, 02:00:02 AM
BigPopa-  I was just kidding around.  Somebody has to play Cal Tech, just not my Alma Mater Cal Lu, not Pomona.  No worries though.

Wildthing... sorry... I thought you were a Pitzer guy... my bad!

Speaking of Cal LU... I see that Hirsch in doing quite well in his professional career.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on February 09, 2006, 12:08:15 PM
Popa-  No worries bro, hell, I don't even know what a Pitzer is...
Hirsh is doing very well.  I was there long before him but from what I hear he has become a much better pitcher in the minors.  I see that he is on the Astros 40 man roster.  Anyone have any idea who the last SCIAC player was to reach the majors???  Just wondering.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on February 09, 2006, 06:09:26 PM
I found this on the Cal Tech website.

  Caltech has announced plans to rejoin the SCIAC as full member in baseball for the 2006-07 academic year.


Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: rbaikie on February 09, 2006, 07:48:05 PM
Gray Fox -

When you said that- I had to look for myself -

Don't know how they are going to pull that one off - recruiting is near impossible there outside of academics and their current roster has only 16 players on it!

And with those players, they have been getting beaten going against the number 3, 4, 5 pitchers of the SCIAC teams that they do play - what happens when they have to play 3 games in a weekend series -

Not to be a smart***, but do they have a mercy rule of some sort?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 10, 2006, 03:41:02 PM
Glad to see that a message board exist for d-3 baseball.

I have to agree with people who had mention what the outcome in the SCIAC would look like. In my opinion, i think Cal Lu will sit at the top, while the Leo's stay behind them.

One surprise this year will be Oxy. From what i undertsand they are deep with players and boys that want to improve a strugglin program. Look for Oxy to be a spoiler.

One other note, I think Whitter will also try to be at the top by playing good games this season. Their pitching staff looks pretty good and are coming off of a learning year.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 10, 2006, 06:38:39 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on February 10, 2006, 03:41:02 PM
One other note, I think Whitter will also try to be at the top by playing good games this season. Their pitching staff looks pretty good and are coming off of a learning year.

... but they are nicknamed the Poets!!!! I find it hard to consider that intimidating. I guess it is scarier than the Hustlin' Quakers of Muskingum College.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: David Collinge on February 10, 2006, 08:52:11 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 10, 2006, 06:38:39 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on February 10, 2006, 03:41:02 PM
One other note, I think Whitter will also try to be at the top by playing good games this season. Their pitching staff looks pretty good and are coming off of a learning year.

... but they are nicknamed the Poets!!!! I find it hard to consider that intimidating. I guess it is scarier than the Hustlin' Quakers of Muskingum College.

Muskingum is the Fighting Muskies, a very nasty looking fish.  The Quakers in their conference (the OAC) reside in Wilmington.  There are other Quakers, notably at Earlham College (NCAC) and, at the D1 level, at the University of Pennsylvania. 

Anyway, Poets can be downright scary.  The pen is, after all, mightier than the sword!  If nothing else, you could stab a Banana Slug with one.  :D
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 10, 2006, 09:26:23 PM
You're right on the Earlham being the Hustlin' Quakers... good catch!

Sometimes, I wonder how I make it through the day without tripping over myself more than I do.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on February 11, 2006, 09:13:27 AM
Believe there are 3 PP alums who played in the minors last year.

Jose Cortez, Jase Turner and Adam Gardner.  After a monster career, looks like Cortez is having trouble hitting at the minor league level.  Turner had a good start to his pro career after being drafted in '05.  Gardner looks to be pitching mostly in relief, but doing pretty well.  Of the three, he's the only one that I never saw play.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 11, 2006, 06:24:52 PM
Check out this interesting list on the Carthage web page:

Do any of the teams listed surprise you?

http://www.carthage.edu/athletics/index.cfm?page=325
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on February 12, 2006, 09:32:23 PM
Not surprisingly, PP dropped a pair to Chapman over the weekend.  1st game was relatively close, second game was a blowout.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on February 13, 2006, 12:29:23 AM
Pomonaalum-  I saw that they hung pretty well in the first game and then got smoked.  Does P-P have a pretty young team?  Not to worry, they are doing better than Cal Lu.  I went to the first game on Sat. and left after a few innings (along with many other people).  They looked terrible and ended up losing by 10 or 11.  Funny thing though, they came back to win the second game 16-0.  Go figure.  Looks like the top 3 from last year are all off to bumpy starts.  ULV=1-3  CLU= 2-4 Redlands= 0-1.  Maybe its going to be a great year for OXY???
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: rbaikie on February 13, 2006, 11:31:05 AM
Menlo swept Whittier on Saturday with two high scoring games.

CMC beat Menlo 8-7 on Sunday.

CMC bombed Cal Tech on Saturday something like 35-3!!!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Sabretooth Tiger on February 13, 2006, 12:55:29 PM
Oxy dropped three to Willamette.  9-3 and 6-0 in the Saturday doubleheader and 6-4 on the Sunday game.

:(

Next up Caltech on Tuesday.

8)
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: rbaikie on February 13, 2006, 01:41:21 PM
Sabretooth Tiger -

Did you see any of the games?

Willamette is only picked to finish 6th in the NWC.  Do you think they are better than that?

Willamette plays 3 this upcoming weekend at Menlo.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Sabretooth Tiger on February 13, 2006, 05:17:51 PM
No, didn't see any of them, just reporting results as posted on Oxy's website, last Oxy baseball game I saw was the alumni game a few years back right before everything went south.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on February 13, 2006, 06:14:53 PM
Believe Pomona lost a bunch of people off last year's team, including Jase Turner and Felipe Aguilar, two big holes to fill, along with a couple of other starters in the lineup.  They do return some decent pitching.  From the looks of it, 3 or 4 FR starters at the moment, so yeah, a young team.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 14, 2006, 01:24:46 PM
Hen-alum,

Just out of curiosity and no means to offend anyone.
Do you think that pomons 4 Fr starters can really be a huge difference towards the end of the season? If so will they crack under pressure? I am sure they did pretty well during practice to get the starting job, but in the end can these four be a big part to reaching the top of the SCIAC.

I hope the tigers bounce back from their recent lost. I am sure they will do fine within the nest weeks of play. I'm sure the will upset a couple of teams that are listed to win over them in the next weeks.

Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 14, 2006, 01:28:00 PM
Btw----SCIAC fans

What would you guys think if the SCIAC championship between 1 and 2 be played at a big arean like at Dodger stadium or Angel sadium to keep the event neutral from home field advantage. I am sure there are some connections out there that can make this possible.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on February 14, 2006, 02:34:58 PM
I heard from my buddy at CLU that their was supposed to be a conference tournament this year.  Anybody know if that is real or just a rumor???

A few slow starts in the SCIAC this year, but not to bring any OXY fans down, they will get beat over and over this year.  The new coach has his hands full.  Who is the frontrunner right now??  Is there even a favorite?  Glad this board is here so we can talk a little about some spring sports since hoops are almost done.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: rbaikie on February 14, 2006, 03:35:25 PM
Not that I really trust the website (www.thesciac.org) because it tends to be very much behind the times in info, but it does show that for the 2005-2006 year, the baseball champion will be determined based on conference won-loss records - no mention of a tourney -

I also checked some of the school's websites and the schedules end with their final regular season series.

Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 14, 2006, 03:39:20 PM
I would have to think that Cal Lu and LaVerne will figure it out in the next few weeks and get rolling into SCIAC play...

If Pomona's freshmen get some experience under their belt, they could be a darkhorse in the SCIAC...

I think that Oxy could be a sleeper capable of pulling off a few upsets this spring.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on February 14, 2006, 05:04:29 PM
At least the old SCIAC website was fairly current.

I think the SCIAC got taken by their webmaster contract..
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: bergybit on February 14, 2006, 09:04:48 PM
I watched the three Willamette vs. Occidental games over this past weekend (my son is a freshman on the Willamette), and Willamette showed some surprisingly (to me at least) good pitching in games 1 and 2.   I think both games were 1-hitters.  Occidental had a good chance at winning game 3 but  a 3-run home run late in the game basically put it out of reach for Occidental.

Willamette lost quite a few seniors and their roster this year includes a lot of freshmen and sophomores.  For that reason, it's possible that their ranking (6th.) in the North West Conference is lower than it ought to be.  At least, I hope that turns out to be the case.

By the way, Occidental needs more bleachers!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 14, 2006, 10:10:32 PM
But OXY is a classic place to play... great setting with short porches all around. Fans riding you left and right... love it!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on February 14, 2006, 10:15:18 PM
Yes!  I love the fact that we are starting to talk a little hardball.  Here is my idea of what will happen this year...

Cal Lu and La Verne will probably battle for the title but there are 2 teams they might want to watch out for.  Claremont and Redlands both want to knock those two teams out of the top spot.  I really don't know much about any of the players in the SCIAC, but Cal Lu always has legit players and it seems like the same over in LaVerne.  One thing I do know is that OXY will not be a spoiler to the SCIAC, they will finish at the bottom like they have a lot recently.
On the subject of Pomona, I just don't see them being able to get the freshman to compete.....yet.  If they have 4 good freshman than they might be a year of two away.
I agree OXY needs more seats.  I saw a game there a few years back and it was bad.  They have that big hill right behind the field which would be a sweet place to build it into more of a "stadium".  Keep up the talk, I love it.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 15, 2006, 01:19:39 PM
Vaughn

I have to agree with you on having more seats around the baseball field at Oxy. During my senior year, i used to hang around that place to do my homework and reading. On my free time, i would just imagine what the field would look like if there were seats on top of the hills. And yes, i must agree with you, if seats were there it would look like a small scale stadium. This would make a huge upgrade to the school's field.

I hope you guys are right in thinking that the 4 freshmen at Pomona can do a lot. Just that i've never come across any info from the past that says that a team with 4 freshmen can reach the top..........


Btw------who do you guys think is the best pitcher as of today in the league.? Who's the best closer?


Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 15, 2006, 03:42:49 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on August 12, 1973, 07:25:57 AM
I hope you guys are right in thinking that the 4 freshmen at Pomona can do a lot. Just that i've never come across any info from the past that says that a team with 4 freshmen can reach the top..........

I know it can be done... Carthage College reached the Final Four in the 1993 World Series with four freshman starters... 3 infielders and 1 outfielder. It just depends on how well those kids perform.

Oxy's field could be amazing if they spent a little money on it... the hill would be a great place to put some seating, unless you enjoy students sitting in the grass behind rightfield heckleing your rightfielder... the hecklers could be much more effective if they were shouting distance from the pitchers.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 15, 2006, 06:02:04 PM
Here is just a thought that popped into my head... would the SCIAC be a better conference IF Chapman entered for baseball? I know they are independent right now, that is beside the point.

Do you think it would hurt the rest of the conference if Chapman ran away with the title? I know that LaVerna and Cal Lu are both well-respected programs right now, but would they lose some credibility if they got pushed down a notch with the addition of Chapman?

...or...

Would it help the conference in terms of raising the quality of play? Would they possibly get a second bid from the conference?

Like I said, no offenses meant, just something that crossed my mind.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on February 15, 2006, 10:05:22 PM
Oxy is a great place to play, but damn, those fences are short.  I gave up a pop-up homer to CF there one time that went maybe 350-360.

As far as hecklers, one of the better venues is Azusa Pacific, I think - where there are apartment style dorms in left field...
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on February 15, 2006, 11:00:25 PM
Yeah the fences at OXY are pretty small.  You would think they would hit a lot more home runs there.  I went and watched Cal Lu play at Redlands a few years back and they had a bunch of guys in the apartments behind the field with signs and a megaphone.  It was pretty classic.  Any big games on tap for the weekend?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 21, 2006, 02:31:36 PM
Anyone with a megaphone at a game gets hats off from me. Anywho's, I know that Oxy-had a good game against Cal tech, ( I know , I know), but what where the other scores across the league. I though their would be a gathering of the faithful leeting us know what happen during the weekend games.


As for seeing chapman join the SCIAC... that would be a huge addition. This would indeed let other teams like Cal-lu, La Vern Oxy , Redlands, etc... see first hand what a D-3 baseball powerhouse team feels like. In addition, it would help them know how real good teams play steller defense in baseball. 

Or they could find a way to do non-league scheduling to have chapman...
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 21, 2006, 03:58:14 PM
Most of the SCIAC schools already play Chapman in non-conf games. It would be interesting to see them throw their big dogs at Chapman during the week instead of Chapman seeing the #4s all week as the school rest the 1-3 for the weekend games.

I am sure Chapman would still do very well against them, but it would make things tougher for them.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 21, 2006, 05:33:50 PM
Thats a good point , Poppa, I have to say. I didn't know that coachs would be doing that against a team like chapman. (by the way---- just to clear things Poppa---by 1-3's you mean the starting pitchers right. ) If so, you are so right on the money.........

In that case, that's like having the Dodger's sending in their best 3 pitchers to face a good yankee team during the week, instead of the weekend.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 21, 2006, 05:59:27 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on February 21, 2006, 05:33:50 PM
Thats a good point , Poppa, I have to say. I didn't know that coachs would be doing that against a team like chapman. (by the way---- just to clear things Poppa---by 1-3's you mean the starting pitchers right. ) If so, you are so right on the money.........


Yes... #1-3 would be the pitching. Most schools will save there #1, #2 and #3 for the conference games on the weekends.. and rightfully so.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 21, 2006, 06:06:03 PM
That would be rightfully so-----

But that would give the starters excellent experince in playing with better competition. I understand that the coaches might want their pitchers to be fresh, or just to have a low ERA, but this would teach them how to be better picters. I hope coaches would send their big dogs against a #4 ranked team just to make the game an OLD classic pitchers dual that would be worth watching.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on February 22, 2006, 10:26:45 AM
well, a Chapman player did hit for the cycle in back-to-back games against Pomona...you read that right, same guy hit for the cycle on both Friday and Saturday.

Pomona was off last weekend, back to action this coming weekend.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on February 22, 2006, 12:31:00 PM
Chapmans schedule would help any team around So Cal.  You know you will have your top guys starting every game.  Look at their stats from last year.  Its a joke when teams like Claremont or Whittier have to play Chapman mid-week and have Chapman throw it's #1 against the entire bullpen from a SCIAC school going into a conference series.  The only way to change it- have Chapman join the SCIAC.  I know that won't happen so looks like we are SOL.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 22, 2006, 01:09:02 PM
Actually, it is not to Chapman's advantage in baseball to join the SCIAC.

They catch the mid-week pitching staff for every mid-week game!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 22, 2006, 03:43:59 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 22, 2006, 01:09:02 PM
Actually, it is not to Chapman's advantage in baseball to join the SCIAC.

They catch the mid-week pitching staff for every mid-week game!

Ralph... you are correct. Chapman will pound the SCIAC schools as long as they do not have to face their top pitching... They may still fare well in the SCIAC, but not to the degree that everyone thinks. Look what happened when they had to face McMurry's top arms last weekend. Chapman is facing some serious pitching depth problems.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on February 23, 2006, 10:54:34 AM
I will have to say that Chapman has not "pounded" anyone in the SCIAC yet.  I checked out their site and saw they beat Cal Lu twice by a combined 5 runs.  Claremont 3-0, Whittier 4-2.....those are not bad games at all. 

I never meant that Chapman joining the SCIAC would be to their advantage, but it would be to the advantage of the SCIAC.  What coach wouldn't wan't to throw their top 3 pretty much every time they play.  This weekend should be a little better indication of what kind of team Chapman is.  They go to Menlo for 3 games and Menlo is "supposed" to be pretty good.  I guess we will learn a lot about both schools.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 23, 2006, 01:31:36 PM
Is there any where that i can find the results for baseball besides visiting each schools sports page. If you do know of anything please point it out.

Tough loss for Cal Lu against point loma. I just saw the score and read that the Nazierians (if thats their nickname) came out swingging. Any word from other games on tap??
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 23, 2006, 04:00:21 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on February 23, 2006, 01:31:36 PM
Is there any where that i can find the results for baseball besides visiting each schools sports page. If you do know of anything please point it out.

Browneagle... this should help you out:

http://www.thesciac.org/m-baseball/standings.htm#Results
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 23, 2006, 05:44:40 PM
Thanks for the link Poppa
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 23, 2006, 11:58:22 PM
Point Loma Nazarene University's nickname is the Sea Lions.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 27, 2006, 12:34:36 PM
What a good defense of job that the bulldogs did against the kingsmen on saturday. I have to pull my hats off to the dogs for pulling that one. I thought Cal Lu would be ready after being wacked by the sea lions of Point Loma. But, that was not the case.

Btw, congrats to the tigers for bouncing back and beating the stags. However, saturday everything went the wrong way. Hope the tigers bounce back and pull of two other big wins in the sciac
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on February 28, 2006, 12:33:27 PM
Yikes!  Tell me it isn't true that Redlands beat Cal Lu all 3 games ???.  What in the world is going on in Thousand Oaks!!!????????  Is there something behind this whole story or are they just not that good anymore?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 28, 2006, 01:16:44 PM
Rick

Thats what i have been trying to find out. I am not sure if its their pitching staff or their defense that hasn't been awake since that huge slump with point loma. Obviously, the offesene is not clicking like we all expected to.  All, I hope they get out of this slump and wake up. If not here's to a new SCIAC baseball champ.....

On deck for the tigers is La Vern this week... hopefully the young tigers bounce back from their last two games with the stags and take this weekends game from their leo's with solid pitching.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on February 28, 2006, 02:19:02 PM
Browneagle-  Are you an OXY fan?  Pretty cool to see OXY win a friday game.  When was the last time they won a series?  I do not ask this in a bad way either, I just know they have struggled in the past.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 28, 2006, 02:33:28 PM
Rick---

Yeah i am an oxy fan. Love the school's sports regardless of records.
I was thrilled that the tigers took one away from a good stags team on friday..( i caught the last innings). I thought that indeed this might be a pretty good series that the orange and black could win. But, they did their best.

I get your question. No worries about bringing that up. Thats just reality. But, if u count in Cal Tech, of course they have completed a  winning series...(haha, anyone can)
but against other sciac teams, its been a while since  they took a series.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on March 01, 2006, 12:04:28 PM
Browneagle-  Thats cool that you have pride for your school (I assume you went to OXY) no matter what their record might be.  I am sure the rest of the SCIAC would love for there to be a little better competition from top to bottom.  I feel like the conference as a whole is very sub-par.  Take away Cal Lu and all of their trips to regionals and the World Series (I saw them all listed on their web-page) and ULV's National Title in '95 and what does the SCIAC have to show for itself, NOTHING.  I am all for some other teams like Redlands, ULV, Whittier....well, pretty much anyone but CMS, to win the SCIAC but until they can show the rest of the country that the SCIAC can play on the national level, the SCIAC is going to be just another average conference.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 01, 2006, 12:55:48 PM
Rick you make a real good point when you mention that we would "love for there to be a little better competition from top to bottom" in the SCIAC. No dout that if teams like Cal Lu or the La Vern teams that made it to the national spotlight were pullled out, the SCIAC would be an average league.

I am happy to have noticed that teams like poets, pomona, La Vern, and even the tigers have tried to do their to do there best to improve and do some damage. I guess in the end it has to do with the players that you recruit and what you can offer those kids. For instance, a couple of years ago Whitter did a fine job in recruiting local kids and in the end encouraged that incoming class that they could be at the top of this league. Although, they made it to the top of the league, their pitching staff and offense was a complete turn around that year. 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 01, 2006, 01:09:19 PM
Btw--- Here's another reason why Oxy has been in slumps in the past

It's not the academic standards that have caused the program to suffer . . . in my opinion.  There has been considerable turmoil in the program that killed the team and killed recruiting.  A few years ago the players essentially revolted against the then long time coach, went to everyone in the administration and the loudest among them led what was basically a walk-out
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on March 02, 2006, 11:56:19 AM
Hmmmmm Browneagle, looks like redlands might be for real.  They put the wood to the Lu last weekend and now they come out and beat Chapman.  Looks like they must be doing something right out there.  Still a lot of ball to be played but a pretty nice start for them.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 02, 2006, 01:22:28 PM
Your right man.

I never counted the bulldogs out but they are indeed off to a good start so far. I think they are playing fundamental defense at their positions and doing just enough on offense. I haven't heard their bats out west in pasadena just yet, but their gloves are speaking.  This should diffently send a message throughout the league in saying that the SCIAC is up for grabs as of now.

La Vern comes into the Rock with a fine record and a solid pitching staff. I hope that Oxy takes a couple of the games away from them by using a good pitching dual.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 02, 2006, 02:12:18 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on March 02, 2006, 11:56:19 AM
Hmmmmm Browneagle, looks like redlands might be for real.  They put the wood to the Lu last weekend and now they come out and beat Chapman.  Looks like they must be doing something right out there.  Still a lot of ball to be played but a pretty nice start for them.

Or is Chapman just weaker than we think!

I am happy that McMurry won 2 of 3, but is this a trend?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on March 02, 2006, 03:09:39 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 02, 2006, 02:12:18 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on March 02, 2006, 11:56:19 AM
Hmmmmm Browneagle, looks like redlands might be for real.  They put the wood to the Lu last weekend and now they come out and beat Chapman.  Looks like they must be doing something right out there.  Still a lot of ball to be played but a pretty nice start for them.

Or is Chapman just weaker than we think!

I am happy that McMurry won 2 of 3, but is this a trend?

Ralph... I think you may be right. Chapman may not be as powerful as earlier thought. I am not taking anything away from McMurry because it is always tough to win at Chapman, but only time will tell if those were huge wins or not.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on March 02, 2006, 09:22:07 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 27, 2006, 03:43:47 PM
Quote from: pomonaalum on January 27, 2006, 02:50:29 PM


Look for Cal-Baptist to  make a run to the top this year. GSAC is a great NAIA conference for baseball. Quite a few players drafted every year.

I know I am quoting myself here, but has anyone noticed how well Cal Baptist is playing... off to a 17-0 start and 7-0 in the GSAC. I might be fat, but I am not stupid when it comes to evaluating baseball teams...
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on March 02, 2006, 09:58:21 PM
Pomona had some pretty good teams in the early years of this decade, including one that won 30 games while going undefeated in SCIAC play...made it out of the West Regional once, I think...
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on March 03, 2006, 04:26:39 PM
Quote from: pomonaalum on March 02, 2006, 09:58:21 PM
Pomona had some pretty good teams in the early years of this decade, including one that won 30 games while going undefeated in SCIAC play...made it out of the West Regional once, I think...

I watched Cortez(Pomona-Pitzer) break the national homerun record for a career in and NCAA game in the West Regional in 2003... very impressive kid. I also had the (Mis) fortune of seeing the Former record holder, Tim Jorgensen of UW-Oshkosh set the record at the 1995 World Series... he hit it to beat us.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on March 04, 2006, 08:03:30 PM
The strange thing has been that Cortez hasn't been able to adjust to minor league pitching at all.  He seemed to be much more than a power hitter, and was just a good pure hitter in general - but that hasn't translated to the pro level.  Jase Turner had a good rookie campaign in Idaho after he was drafted last year.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on March 05, 2006, 06:56:33 PM
Cal Lu and Pomona split this weekend.  CLU took game 1, game 2 was suspended due to darkness in extra innings (to be completed later) and PP wins game 3 (postponed from Friday) 2-1.

CLU now 1-4-1 to start conference play.  Now we get the month-long break from SCIAC play for all the snowbird tournies and the like.  I never liked the format of SCIAC play, with such a long break in the middle.  So much of your conference record then hinges on when you were scheduled to play a certain team...much more so than a conference schedule that went straight through.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on March 06, 2006, 01:04:02 AM
1-4-1 is going to be hard to overcome... the SCIAC is truly up for grabs right now. Who do you see as the favorite?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 06, 2006, 12:50:04 PM
La vern did a great job against the tigers this weekend. For a second, during the first 3 ending i thougt Oxy was doing just fine, until the pictching fell off. Oxy needs to do better though, i must admit, both in defense and now in offense as well. Overall, i still think that with in the coming weeks they will do just fine.

Big P---The league is sure up for grabs. Cal Lu will need to bounce back from 1-4 when league play comes back to get back the crown. Although, theres a lot of baseball to play, i think the order for top competion will go like this:

Redlands-Lavern (tied for 1st), Oxy second, and the staggs on 3rd....)Remember these are just my opinions and no i am not trying to stur up or brew up any arguments. Just my 2 cents
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on March 07, 2006, 09:34:31 AM
I would have a tough time putting Oxy up in the top tier of the conference.  Is it possible that they go "worst to first" - sure, but that would be quite an accomplisment.

I haven't seen them play, but I think it's too early to tell for them.  Cal Lu does look to be down this year, which may open the door for the others like Redlands and LaVerne that you mentioned.  Pomona may be a year away from seriously contending.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on March 07, 2006, 12:38:13 PM
I would have a tough time putting OXY at the top as well.  They are 1-5 so they have a lot of work ahead of them as well.

Cal Lu looks like they are really down this year.  Their roster shows a lot of young guys but I am sure they will be ok down the road.  Their hitting looks to be the problem to me.  When was the last time you saw Cal Lu hitting under .300 as a team?  Interesting year in the SCIAC so far.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 07, 2006, 01:42:25 PM
I know guys----That's just my big hope for them. Remember they are re-loading as well with some talent that will grow just like the other teams around the sciac.

Of course, the SCIAC has an open door. THe bulldogs have a fine start just like the LEO's. I expect that the top will be around them for awhile. You can add the staggs as well, which i know a lot of you guys don't want up there.Pomona will do well within the next year and of course whitter will be right behind them. Overall, i do hope though that Oxy does a fine job even though they are 1-5 in league play.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 08, 2006, 02:38:25 PM
Oxy just finish losing 5-4 to #20 Ithaca in a well fought game. I was hoping that the tigers could rally to beat a really good team that seemed to struggled at times. I guess Ithaca was still asleep after flying out here.

Go tigers
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: rbaikie on March 08, 2006, 03:02:31 PM
Is there a website somewhere that lists all of the games for the California Classic this weekend and/or the California Invitational next weekend?

There are bits and pieces all over the various SCIAC and other team's websites, but I would love to see an overall schedule.

Thanks to anybody who could help!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on March 08, 2006, 03:50:38 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on March 08, 2006, 02:38:25 PM
Oxy just finish losing 5-4 to #20 Ithaca in a well fought game. I was hoping that the tigers could rally to beat a really good team that seemed to struggled at times. I guess Ithaca was still asleep after flying out here.

Go tigers

I am also guessing that it was the first time outside for the Bombers since upstate NY is still covered in snow! It sometimes takes a few games to adjust to playing on grass and dirt again.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 10, 2006, 02:28:55 PM
rbaikie---

Here's what i got for oxy in the tourny this week and next.

Looks like good competition. It will be hard to see if a couple of these games get called because of the rain heading out here. I hope to make starts game at Oxy and most of next week while these kids are busting there butts during spring break....

Go tigers

California Classic Tournament
Fri/10th Bethany College (WV) Home 2:00pm 
Sat/11th Rutgers-Newark Home 1:00pm 
Sun/12th Rutgers-Camden
Rockford College (IL) Home 9:30am
30min after game 1 ends
 
Tues/14th Illinois Tech Home 3:00pm 
California Invitational Tournament
Fri/17th UMass Home 9:00am 
Sat/18th Rutgers-Newark
Wesleyan (CT) Home 9:00am
2:00pm   
Sun/19th Rutgers-Camden Home 12:00pm 
Fri/24th *Whittier Home 2:30pm
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: rbaikie on March 10, 2006, 03:56:15 PM
Thanks Browneagle64 -

I'm not real hopeful regarding the weather -

I have a relative driving down so I've been watching -

With one bout of showers already this morning hitting east LA (Probably hit the Rock too) - It was lightly snowing at 11 up on the Grapevine -

I guess we'll just wait and see!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 13, 2006, 12:30:24 PM
Friday's cold game at the Rock was a classic pitchers duel that ended Bethany's favor. (2-0) I thought the tigers would have mustard a late come back, but couln't do it. My hats still go off to the tigers and bethany.

Congratulations to the others schools in the tourny----. I'm glad to see whitter did a fine job against most of the other school's. Looks like Cal Lu finally got one win in its column.
As for CMS, they look like they are going to sneek up on people and grab the SCIAC with out us even knowing about it. (Congrats to them too, as well)

Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on March 13, 2006, 04:03:36 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on March 13, 2006, 12:30:24 PM
Friday's cold game at the Rock was a classic pitchers duel that ended Bethany's favor. (2-0) I thought the tigers would have mustard a late come back, but couln't do it. My hats still go off to the tigers and bethany.

Congratulations to the others schools in the tourny----. I'm glad to see whitter did a fine job against most of the other school's. Looks like Cal Lu finally got one win in its column.
As for CMS, they look like they are going to sneek up on people and grab the SCIAC with out us even knowing about it. (Congrats to them too, as well)



I know that OXY has a quality educational available to all students who attend. Your grammar(or lack of) is killing me and in some way makes your posts less important to the board. I do not mean it as an insult, but take your time.... you are just making a mess when you type.

AND don't be afraid to check your spelling.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 13, 2006, 04:35:58 PM
That's my fault--- I know.

I usually try to do these post at work when i have free time. Usually the boss does check in to my work area.
SO thats my fault
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on March 13, 2006, 04:37:08 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on March 13, 2006, 04:35:58 PM
That's my fault--- I know.

I usually try to do these post at work when i have free time. Usually the boss does check in to my work area.
SO thats my fault

Acceptance is the first step to recovery....
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 16, 2006, 02:27:45 PM
I'm glad that the weather has not cancelled a lot of games for the Cal Classic. Last time i checked most of the SCIAC teams were doing very well. Congrats to the Leo's, Redlands and even the staggs of doing a fine job in the classic.

As for my Oxy team, well, at least they won one game against Illinois-Tech. I just hope they can pull more wins. 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on March 27, 2006, 12:55:55 PM
What in the world is going on with the SCIAC this year???  I will be the first to admit that whoever wins the SCIAC (I really have no idea who is in first since the SCIAC web-page is terrible and never updated) will get blown away in the regionals.  It looks to me like the SCIAC is slipping further and further into the world of being a bad baseball conference.  Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on March 27, 2006, 03:36:17 PM
I agree... the SCIAC needs a team to step up and play for them on a national level. I doubt they will truly compete in the West Region with Chapman, Cal State-East Bay, McMurry, Texas Lutheran, George Fox, Trinity, etc... should be fun to watch things unfold.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 28, 2006, 02:44:03 AM
I pundited the first baseball poll and Regional Polls on the multi-region board.

Comments invited. ;)

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4159.45
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on March 28, 2006, 10:05:24 PM
What is there to look for this weekend in the SCIAC?  Looks like a pretty good series with ULV and Redlands.  CMS looks like they can play a little too.  Pomona, Oxy, CLU, Whittier....any thoughts?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on March 29, 2006, 01:28:01 AM
If Redlands can win the series this weekend they can make a bit more noise on the national level. Not a bad debut in the rankings for them.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on March 29, 2006, 11:44:32 AM
That is a pretty good debut BigPoppa.  If East Bay can win the series at Chapman I would like to see them move up even higher than 6th.  The sad thing is, if they lose that series they will probably get bumped down 6 or 7 spots and some team coming off a 8-6 start will take their place.  Gee, do I sound like I am getting pretty bitter about these polls :)
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 30, 2006, 07:00:00 PM
I''m glad that the bulldogs made a debute in the recent high rankings and representing our league. However, in my opinion, I think that they're going to have a tough time if they reach post-play. Our league is just a bit to weak for any match-up against midwest and east coast schools. (Again, this is just my opinion so no need to feel bad against this)

  As for my tigers, I just hope they win more than one game before they end the season. Good luck to the Bulldogs, Leos and staggs or any other team that is racing for the top of the SCIAC.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on April 02, 2006, 11:20:47 PM
Redlands gets even closer to their first SCIAC title since ____?  I really have no idea when they last won it.  As long as Redlands doesn't screw things up this race could be over very soon.  Looks like the only team that is even close to them still is Whittier.  CLU really helped out the cause by taking 2 of 3 from Claremont.  Still a lot of baseball to be played but my bet is on Redlands.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on April 03, 2006, 12:34:04 AM
What are the SCIAC standings???
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on April 03, 2006, 12:00:01 PM
 Team                             W   L   T   Pct       W   L   T   Pct

Univ. of Redlands...         5   1   0  .833      17   6   0  .739
ClaremontMuddScripps   6   3   0  .667      14   8   0  .636
Whittier College....          5   4   0  .556      12  12   1  .500
California Lutheran.        3   4   1  .438      11  13   2  .462
Univ. of La Verne...         5   7   0  .417      15  12   0  .556
Pomona Pitzer.......         2   3   1  .417       7  16   1  .312
Occidental College..        2   7   0  .222       8  18   0  .308

I am not sure how current these are for all of the teams.  I know Redlands is 8-1.  I got these from the SCIAC web-site which is never current.

Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on April 03, 2006, 12:59:13 PM
Thanks, Wild Thing!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on April 03, 2006, 01:53:55 PM
No worries.  I have to ask you if that is you in the picture on the profile or not.  Just wondering
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on April 03, 2006, 02:03:11 PM
Not me... It's actually Carthage Head Coach, Augie Schmidt.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on April 03, 2006, 02:59:43 PM
Darn, I was going to compliment you on a killer 'stache :D
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on April 03, 2006, 03:02:48 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on April 03, 2006, 02:59:43 PM
Darn, I was going to compliment you on a killer 'stache :D

He does have the classic 'stache... I am certain that one needs to be at least 40 years old to pull off that look.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on April 03, 2006, 04:26:03 PM
Adam Morrison will never make it in the facial hair department.  ;)
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on April 03, 2006, 06:27:41 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on April 03, 2006, 04:26:03 PM
Adam Morrison will never make it in the facial hair department.  ;)

I think I saw Morrison in a "film" I was watching last night.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Captain Morgan on April 04, 2006, 12:51:13 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 03, 2006, 06:27:41 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on April 03, 2006, 04:26:03 PM
Adam Morrison will never make it in the facial hair department.  ;)

I think I saw Morrison in a "film" I was watching last night.

Big Poppa- you are killing me! I read these posts all the time, but I just signed up tonight. You seem to know what you are talking about and your quotes are hilarious. Is that guy for real?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on April 04, 2006, 11:41:07 AM
Big Poppa-  You are a one of a kind...  Who is this new guy in here?  Welcome Captain.  Any ties to the SCIAC or just a local fan?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on April 04, 2006, 12:28:15 PM
How topsy-turvy is the SCIAC(Yes.. I used the term "topsy-turvy"... it felt appropriate)? It seems to me that it is nearly the opposite of what is "normal" for the league. The traditional powers are really struggling for wins.

Is the SCIAC down this year or has everyone else stepped it up?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on April 04, 2006, 12:42:11 PM
I will have to give my opinion on this one.  The traditional powers (CLU and ULV) both got their butts handed to them by Redlands.  Redlands is a good team, but CLU and ULV are both pretty average.  CLU has been playing a lot better as of late so maybe their series with Redlands could have been a little different, or maybe not.  Even during the 2 years of SCIAC titles, La Verne was never really that good looking at the regionals and how they did.  Maybe I am crazy here but until a team gets deep into a regional or all the way to the series, I just don't see tham being all that dominating.  People can talk about how good Redlands is this year, but until they beat a team like Chapman and come knocking on the door of the region title, I would just say they are having a good year in a very average conference.  I could see Redlands losing to Claremont and Whittier...not enough times to really make a difference in the title race, but thats pretty much how average the SCIAC is nowadays.  What happened to the glory days of '95 when ULV won it all or the days of Cal Lu dominating the entire conferencen on their way to 30 win seasons.  Stop the insanity!!!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on April 04, 2006, 12:50:23 PM
Chapman has become the dominant SoCal program... it's hard for SCIAC schools to recruit against them with all of Chapman's success... and considering that they are all within 40 miles of one another.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on April 04, 2006, 01:25:01 PM
You are right about the whole recruiting issue out here but the schools aren't that close.  I would say CLU and Redlands arwe the "Outsiders" of the group.  Either way, you are correct about Chapman being the dominator out here now.  There is  lot of good baseball played in the OC and being an independent team probably has it's advantages.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on April 04, 2006, 08:10:14 PM
You know what drives me crazy... Iwas so excited to get to 200 posts so I could deal out karma, but it is turning out to be like Christmas... a huge build up and it is over just like that. Don't get me wrong... I enjoy the karma abilities that have been bestowed upon me and I feel the weight of their power, but maybe a little something else for 500 posts????

I think that D3Hoops needs to build in some more incentives for posting... Maybe Super-Karma or something. I am sure Raplh would be fine with it since he is quickly approaching 10,000 posts!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 04, 2006, 10:35:15 PM
There are more privileges further up the ladder but they're a little further up. Stuff like the ability to move polls into topics you don't "own" and such. You already have the major ones: karma, the ability to edit your posts and the ability to delete them.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: rbaikie on April 06, 2006, 04:44:54 PM
Something has happened this week and I wanted to get some opinions - My background is more football so it seemed kind of strange.

Whittier was scheduled to travel to the SF Bay Area for several games - vs. Menlo on 4/5 and than CSU-East Bay 4/7 and 4/8 (DH).

When it was reported that the weather this week might include rain, the game against Menlo was cancelled. Then Whittier announced that they wouldn't make the trip so CSU-East Bay is now travelling down to play the three games at Whittier.

Is it common to completely switch venues like that, especially due to weather?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on April 06, 2006, 05:13:28 PM
It happens quite a bit with baseball. Teams want to get their games in and will travel to do it.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on April 18, 2006, 12:06:02 PM
Is the SCIAC really this bad nowadays???  How in the heck is a team ranked in the top 10 pre-season poll 5-10 in the SCIAC and on a loooooooong losing streak.  WHat in the heck happened to Cal Lu and Pomona.  Those teams used to dominate and now they are both pretty bad.  What has happened?  I find this really strange because there are only about 10 million high school baseball players in SoCal.  Cant any of these schools get the guys they need to win.
I guess the coaches should be at fault here as well.  The coach at La Verne (i don't know his name) comes in and wins back-to-back titles and now they have the most "L's" in the league.  Slimak at CLU-  You have a very nice school location and a brand new field and your team is getting worse every year.  When is the last time they finished with a losing record?  Pomona-I think they won 3 titles in a row a few years ago and they have been very average since.  How does this happen?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on April 18, 2006, 12:16:48 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on April 18, 2006, 12:06:02 PM
Is the SCIAC really this bad nowadays???  How in the heck is a team ranked in the top 10 pre-season poll 5-10 in the SCIAC and on a loooooooong losing streak.  WHat in the heck happened to Cal Lu and Pomona.  Those teams used to dominate and now they are both pretty bad.  What has happened?  I find this really strange because there are only about 10 million high school baseball players in SoCal.  Cant any of these schools get the guys they need to win.
I guess the coaches should be at fault here as well.  The coach at La Verne (i don't know his name) comes in and wins back-to-back titles and now they have the most "L's" in the league.  Slimak at CLU-  You have a very nice school location and a brand new field and your team is getting worse every year.  When is the last time they finished with a losing record?  Pomona-I think they won 3 titles in a row a few years ago and they have been very average since.  How does this happen?

Coaches get complacent with recruiting. I am guessing that many of those recruits ened up at GSAC NAIA schools this year. The GSAC has 3 of the top 20 NAIA schools right now and 2 of the top 6. I know that the SCIAC and GSAC have always chased the same recruits. I also know that some of the GSAC schools recently increased their number of scholarships which would surely affect the SCIAC schools who do not offer them.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on April 18, 2006, 03:16:19 PM
I guess I never thought of the NAIA schools having an impact.  They muct have some pretty good scholarship $$$ in order to get some of these kids.  Thanks BigPoppa
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on April 18, 2006, 05:44:48 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on April 18, 2006, 03:16:19 PM
I guess I never thought of the NAIA schools having an impact.  They muct have some pretty good scholarship $$$ in order to get some of these kids.  Thanks BigPoppa

Most of the GSAC school offer between 7-10 full scholarship which they break up and make the GSAC schools affordable compared to the SCIAC. Chapman also has a great financial aid department that really makes school affordable for students, not just student-athletes.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: RFB on April 18, 2006, 09:50:09 PM
Or how about Redlands has stepped up their program. Redlands has a very good coach in place and the results of his hard work is now showing
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on April 19, 2006, 03:38:51 PM
Oh no, RFB from the football board is here.  Redlands booster at its finest ;D
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on April 19, 2006, 08:44:41 PM
Pomona won 2 straight titles - in '02 and '03, I believe, one season going undefeated in conference play.  But, it's not like the program has been a long-time powerhouse.  Keep in mind that there were 3 players on those teams, Jose Cortez, Adam Gardner and Jase Turner who all played/are playing pro-ball...so, a lot of talent plus some good complimentary players.  They are all gone now, and the team is really young this year.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 20, 2006, 10:41:33 AM
With the regular season coming to an end its hard to believe that Cal Lu and Pomona had a tough time this year. Then again, having young players start at most positions really makes a huge difference.

As for Redlands, the Staggs and Whitter this year my hats go off to them for being at the top of the SCIAC. Hopefully, the bulldogs really play some great baseball in the post-season to show that the SCIAC isn't another average league.

As for my Tigers, Well, another year in which some good things happended but eventually couldn't pick up a lot of wins. Good luck to the tigers with the rest of the teams they play.

Great to see that SCIAC baseball talk was happening on a board like this. GOOD luck to everyone this post-season and in the off season. 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on April 20, 2006, 12:59:27 PM
I agree that Redlands needs to play some darn good baseball to do anything in the regional.  I doubt they will do much, but wish them luck.
I am not surprised by Pomona and Cal Lu.  Both programs have been going down hill the past few years and this is a result.  Something needs to happen if they ever want to get better.  Maybe a new coach at both?  How do win so many titles and all the sudden finish at the bottom of a bad conference?  Good luck beating Chapman, although it can be done.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: tigersports on April 21, 2006, 01:50:58 AM
Hey gang, we're actually doing some baseball this year.  We did the La Sierra "game" on April 2 (archive available) and we'll be doing Game 1 this Saturday at 11.  You can find it at the usual place:  www.oxybroadcast.com.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: tigersports on April 21, 2006, 01:51:43 AM
I should say we're doing Oxy-Redlands this Saturday at 11.   www.oxybroadcast.com
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: RFB on April 23, 2006, 02:23:45 PM
Congrats to Redlands baseball. SCIAC champs and a new school record for wins. Way to go Dawgs.


http://www.sbsun.com/sports/ci_3740714
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on April 24, 2006, 01:34:52 PM
Congrats to the Bulldogs for their first title in a long time.  Looks like they got a lot of help from Cal Lu this weekend when they beat Whittier twice to stop any dreams Whittier might have had of a title.  Best of luck in the regionals!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on April 24, 2006, 02:06:56 PM
Does the SCIAC have a conference tourney? If not, why is the season done and there are still three 3-4 weeks before the NCAAs start?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on April 25, 2006, 01:10:29 PM
Big-Poppa, there is no conference tournament in the SCIAC (but i am sure many wish there was).  The season isn't over, there is still this weekend to play but Redlands has a 4 game lead over Whittier with 3 games to go (vs. Whittier)  Whittier was in the mix until saturday when they lost both ends of a double header to CLU.  There is a pretty long gap between the end of the season and the regionals but I am sure starting games the first week in Feb. has a little to do with that.  No need to bunch 40 gmes into 2 months
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: RFB on May 10, 2006, 11:18:54 AM
Not sure how DIII baseball selects their playoff field. Anybody know who Redlands might play in the playoffs?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on May 10, 2006, 11:34:09 AM
Redlands should play in the West Region:

Probable teams include Chapman, George Fox, Cal-State East Bay, Redlands, Trinity and possibly a 7th team which may be from out of the region.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on May 10, 2006, 11:53:54 AM
I dont think there is any "should" for Redlands playing in the West.  I dont believe they would ever ship an automatic qualifier out of region. 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on May 10, 2006, 11:59:35 AM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on May 10, 2006, 11:53:54 AM
I dont think there is any "should" for Redlands playing in the West.  I dont believe they would ever ship an automatic qualifier out of region. 

True, but Carthage(WI) was #2 in the nation in 2003, got the #1 seed in the region and had to travel to Mississippi to play, when a few other lower seeded teams got to stay in their home regionals. Never underestimate the stupidity of THE MAN.

Needless to say, I can't see Redlands being moved. I am guessing that Chapman will host again.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on May 10, 2006, 12:09:04 PM
I never knew about Carthage doing that.  What a crock.  Here was my reply on a different board.

Ron, I agree that it is too bad if Chapman hosts yet again.  It all comes down to the fact that they have the only facility of the teams playing that could host.  I know Redlands had a really nice park but no lights.  East Bay is not near any of the other schools and why fly 5 teams to Oregon?  I hope they play the West Regional out in San Antonio just so somebody else has a chance to host.  I tell you what, if I was a coach or a player I sure would love playing a Regional at my home park.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on May 10, 2006, 12:22:52 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on May 10, 2006, 12:09:04 PM
I never knew about Carthage doing that.  What a crock.  Here was my reply on a different board.

Ron, I agree that it is too bad if Chapman hosts yet again.  It all comes down to the fact that they have the only facility of the teams playing that could host.  I know Redlands had a really nice park but no lights.  East Bay is not near any of the other schools and why fly 5 teams to Oregon?  I hope they play the West Regional out in San Antonio just so somebody else has a chance to host.  I tell you what, if I was a coach or a player I sure would love playing a Regional at my home park.

I think that the #1 seed should be responsible for hosting at a quality site. Minor league parks, other colleges, etc...
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 12, 2006, 12:26:01 AM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on May 10, 2006, 11:53:54 AM
I dont think there is any "should" for Redlands playing in the West.  I dont believe they would ever ship an automatic qualifier out of region. 

There's no such criteria on the books in any D-III sport that I've seen. What they usually do is keep higher-seeded teams at home, but it has nothing to do with whether they are Pool A, B or C.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Blerker on May 22, 2006, 07:23:20 PM
What happened to Jase Turner, Pomona Pitzer 05?  He played in the KC organization last year, and he shows up on the roster for the Idaho Falls Chukars, but their season doesn't start until June.  Did he get cut in the spring?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on May 23, 2006, 12:21:19 PM
Blerker- I would assume he is in Extended spring training right now.  a lot of the 2nd year guys that were not the top picks in the organization or guys that are still getting used to the professional pitching.  I doubt he would have been released cause he had a pretty good year last year.
Nicew to have another guy around the SCIAC board.  There are only a few of us and the conversations are few and far between
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Blerker on June 01, 2006, 02:29:55 PM
Are there any other former SCIAC players in the minors?  I've been keeping track of the PP guys - Emiliano Escandon ('96) retired this year after 10 years in the minors and independent league ball, Gardner is in the Giants organization, and it sounds like Turner is still hanging around.  I think Jose Cortez was cut after a brutal season last year.  Any others?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on June 08, 2006, 03:20:46 PM
Congrats to Tom Vasella from Whittier.  He was the only guy from the SCIAC drafted this year.  I believe he was a 10th round pick and will join the Hirsch brothers as SCIAC guys that are currently playing with the Astros.  Best of luck to him.
Anyone know if there are any prospects for next year that might get a look from scouts?  I know the SCIAC is kind of down, but i am sure there is a few guys that will be looked at.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on June 08, 2006, 05:30:53 PM
Vasella is a Junior.  What are his plans for 2007?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on June 08, 2006, 11:46:50 PM
Really.  I figured he was a senior.  I guess he will have a pretty big descision to make in the next few weeks
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: dawgs go deep on June 13, 2006, 06:16:10 PM
A Redlands football recruit, will also play baseball, QB, pitcher, Matt Wabby was named to the ALL CIF team today and nominated for all state by calhisports.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 13, 2006, 07:09:34 PM
Ah hah ... having given up on trying to meet the verification standards to post this on the blog, you're resorting to the message board. :)

That's fine, everything on the message board is automatically supposed to be taken with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: dawgs go deep on June 13, 2006, 08:38:31 PM
Pat, you super sleuth you!!!!!!!!

I did email Gordon and gave him the info to verify what I posted on the blog. At that time, I didnt even know this message board existed.  I am glad it does...looks like a lot of fun.

I have all the admission info showing him going to Redlands.  I also gave him Maynards email.  I would feel really stupid asking the coach to have a press release ....I am not that kind of guy.

Anyway, I really am excited about the upcoming season(s)........I'm sure we will chat a bit during the season.  Talk to you soon.

Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 13, 2006, 11:01:20 PM
I expect the school will be more likely to do a release when the whole class is in place.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on June 14, 2006, 12:30:18 PM
Wow, a Redlands fan on here.  Welcome.  Can the Dawgs put together another year like they just had and win back to back titles next year?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: dawgs go deep on June 14, 2006, 12:53:55 PM
Rick,  I have no idea...this is my first year as a Redlands fan.....and got 4 more to go!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on June 14, 2006, 01:23:49 PM
Quote from: dawgs go deep on June 14, 2006, 12:53:55 PM
Rick,  I have no idea...this is my first year as a Redlands fan.....and got 4 more to go!

A parent, I assume.  Why stop after four years? ;)
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: dawgs go deep on June 14, 2006, 01:52:12 PM
From what I see I probably wont.....my other daughter is at ASU,  we go to alot of those games and we always have a blast.  D3 looks to be just as much fun, just on a smaller level.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on November 27, 2006, 01:24:32 PM
When do we start hearing about baseball people. Shed some light.

Oxy returns J-Dub and Justin Goltz in their pitching staff. How about Redlands and Cal Lu? What can you guys point out about their pitching staff or anything else?

Yes, DGI i already know that there will be one player that you know of in that pitching staff rotation. But, can u also shed some light on his style of pitching in H.S. that he was used to?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: dawg gone it on November 28, 2006, 10:06:45 PM
BE,

It appears that the dawgs have a very strong group of returning players and from what I have been told quite a few freshman who are expected to contribute.  Looks like a good years for dawgs with bats and balls! :D
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on November 29, 2006, 12:36:00 AM
Oh geez, DGI are you already over here on the baseball boards causing trouble ;)

The SCIAC has been down the past few years.  A team that has not won the title in god knows how long dominated the conference last year.  I really dont know anything about Cal Lu except their new field is saaaaaweeeeeet.  They always have a ton of new players so who knows if they will go that same route or they will try and build some guys up. 

DGI- Your boy playing at UR?  If so, what does he play.  Might have to sneak out to a game and meet the man, the myth, the legend that is DGI ;D
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on November 29, 2006, 12:24:12 PM
Just to shed some light Wild thing and any other hopeful SCIAC baseball fans,

Cal Lu should return players that were young and quickly mixed in with vets who had made it to the super west regionals in 04( if i am not mistaken). Gone are the players from those small dominanting years, but these youngins did manage to learn from the best. In saying so, look for the kingsmen to battle Redlands for the top spot in SCIAC play. And yes, they have a field that will motivate them all season long.

If pomona starts of with the same freshmen that they had last year on their staff, it will be likely that these kids will be pulling off some big game. Yet, i doubt that they will make it to 1st place. Maybe next year.

Oxy returns several players that were a huge impact last year. The only problem with this team is that they happen to always loss coaches faster than they can improve their field. Expect to see two strong pitchers in Goltz and J. Williams. In addition, they return an infield that is decent and strong.

La Verne should be right at the top with redlands, but their programs always seems to fall because of failing to use their players correctly. (i.e. pitching). Yet, i personally expect them to go to the top this year. BUt only time will tell.

Should be interesting to see what the dogs can do. This years race to the top will not be as easy as last years debacle. I hope that they are ready to stay on top.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on November 29, 2006, 02:45:56 PM
BE-  I am gonna do some research and get back to you on my opinions....
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: dawg gone it on December 08, 2006, 07:03:50 PM
Wild thing.....we anxiously await the results of your research.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on December 11, 2006, 09:58:42 PM
Nothing scientific here.  Just looking at the '06 roster for CLU and it looks like they have 27 players returning.  Nice to have some experience.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: dawg gone it on December 12, 2006, 12:12:40 AM
It also appears that Redlands has many returning players and several new ones that look like they will contirbute, or so I've been told anyway. ;)

I think another SCIAC title may be in the works for the dawgs.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on December 12, 2006, 01:30:02 PM
I am so siked and ready learn and to see what these young players can do after 1 year of experience. ;D

Like Pomona, Cal Lu came in last year with a ton of youth on the field. This was a reason why they did not repeat as SCIAC champs and why they did not advance to the west regional finals as a lot of sport writers were predicting. In the end, the regals did fine, but could not catch up after starting really bad. Look for a decent pitching staff to come out on fire this year.

Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on December 12, 2006, 06:24:48 PM
Looks like the tigers will be starting off in a good note this year. With the return of Vets who played against the these teams ( the first half of their schedule that is) I am hoping that this will motivate them to do better in SCIAC play. In addition, this will get them ready for that grueling, yet fun and exciting Cal Classic during the spring. Looks for Goltz and J-Dub to be the Ace's of the pitching staff.
Btw---Oxy's relievers (Saldena will do just fine once the season gets well into way)

Heres their schedule
Sat / 20th Alumni Game Home 11:00am 9
Sat / 27th Tinsel Town Terrors (exhib) Home 11:00am 9
Februarys
Sat / 3rd Simpson College Home 11:00am (2) 9,9
Wed / 7th  San Diego Christian College Away 7:00pm 9
Fri / 9th La Sierra University Home 2:30pm 9
Sun / 11th La Sierra University Home 11:00am (2) 9,9
Wed / 14th Cal State San Marcos Home 2:00pm 9
Fri / 16th *Caltech Home 2:30pm 9
Sat / 17th *Caltech Away 11:00am (2) 9,9
Sun / 18th Univ. of British Columbia (exhib.) Home 1:00pm 9
Fri / 23rd *La Verne Away 2:30pm 9
Sat / 24th *La Verne Home 11:00am (2) 9,9
March
Fri / 2nd *Whittier Away 2:30pm 9
Sat / 3rd *Whittier Home 11:00am (2) 9,9
Fri / 9th Dominican College (NY) Whittier 2:00pm 9
Sat / 10th Rutgers Univ.-Newark (NJ) Whittier 2:00pm 9
Sun / 11th Pomona-Pitzer Away 9:00am 9
Sun / 11th Claremont-Mudd-Scripts Away 2:00pm 9
Tues / 13th Ithaca College (NY) Home 2:30pm 9
Thurs / 15th Principia College (IL) Home 3:00pm 9
Sat / 17th Bethany College (CA)  Home 11:00am(2) 9,9
Fri / 30th *Cal Lutheran  Home 3:00pm 9
Sat / 31st *Cal Lutheran Away 11:00am(2) 9,9
April
Wed / 4th San Diego Christian College Home 3:00pm 9
Fri / 6th Whitworth College (WA) Home 11:00am 9
Sat / 7th Whitworth College (WA) Home 11:00am (2) 9,9
Fri / 13th *Redlands Home 3:00pm 9
Sat / 14th *Redlands Away 11:00am(2) 9,9
Fri / 20th *Pomona-Pitzer Home 3:00pm 9
Sat / 21st *Pomona-Pitzer Away 11:00am(2) 9,9
Fri / 27th *Claremont-Mudd-Scripps Away 3:00pm 9
Sat / 28th *Claremont-Mudd-Scripps Home 11:00am(2) 9,9
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: dawg gone it on December 19, 2006, 12:43:50 AM
Can anyone tell me if baseball puts out a preseason outlook like football does?.....Pat, Im sure  you know.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on December 19, 2006, 10:40:15 AM
D--- i hope i can answer that question.

The answer is no. I wish the there was one, though. It sure would tell us a lot. People just use their previous knowledge from last year and what they saw on the field. And of course from people on this board.

Sounds like THe dawgs might be gearing up to defend their crown. I hope that you learn what SCIAC baseball is all about.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on December 19, 2006, 02:05:06 PM
What are the pre-season predictions for the SCIAC?

Can last year's surprise teams continue their ascent to the top or will the traditional favorites stay in control?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on December 28, 2006, 08:20:31 PM
IMHO, every one will be hoping the dawgs take the top spot in the SCIAC for 07

However, all can change.

My Preseason Ranks

1) UOR
2)Cal Lu or Oxy
3)Pomona
4)Whitter
5) La Verne
6)Stags

I understand that many might feel that Oxy is ranked to high. But, i feel that this will be the year of the tigers. They will be lead by 2 strong pitcher in goltz and Williams, yet they will have two other up-and coming aces in Colvill & Moffet. Both have shown some strength in the past and certainly hope to display better performances in 07.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on December 29, 2006, 02:43:20 AM
Will Cal Tech field a team?   This usually means find actual pitchers.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Captain Morgan on January 16, 2007, 11:27:10 AM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on December 19, 2006, 10:40:15 AM
D--- i hope i can answer that question.

The answer is no. I wish the there was one, though. It sure would tell us a lot. People just use their previous knowledge from last year and what they saw on the field. And of course from people on this board.

Sounds like THe dawgs might be gearing up to defend their crown. I hope that you learn what SCIAC baseball is all about.

SCIA baseball is all about getting beat by Chapman in the West Regional. The SCIAC is weak this year and will only have a ranked team because they beat up on the weaker teams like Cal Tech.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on January 16, 2007, 11:33:54 AM
Quote from: Captain Morgan on January 16, 2007, 11:27:10 AM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on December 19, 2006, 10:40:15 AM
D--- i hope i can answer that question.

The answer is no. I wish the there was one, though. It sure would tell us a lot. People just use their previous knowledge from last year and what they saw on the field. And of course from people on this board.

Sounds like THe dawgs might be gearing up to defend their crown. I hope that you learn what SCIAC baseball is all about.

SCIA baseball is all about getting beat by Chapman in the West Regional. The SCIAC is weak this year and will only have a ranked team because they beat up on the weaker teams like Cal Tech.

One thing that makes it tough for SCIAC teams is that they play conference games on the weekends and often play Chapman(independent) during the week. Chapman throws their top guys and the SCIAC schools use their #4 and #5 guys to save their 1, 2 and 3 for the weekend. Chapman is a very solid team, but often the SCIAC schools have no chance to beat them without playing them on a weekend.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: dawg gone it on January 16, 2007, 08:15:24 PM
Capt Morgan.....last yeat UR lost 2 of 3 to Chapman, all mid week games, by the scores of win 9-7, lose 2-9, lose 3-4 in 13 innings.  Based upon those games and scores, I must disagree.  Much will be seen when the two play again this year.  Chapman I believe is ranked #2 while UR isnt ranked.  As I stated in an earlier post, based upon last year and the fact that UR has just about everyone back, I dont understand the big spread in evaluating the two.

I am anxious to see how the dawgs do in the Az tourney. 

If  BP is correct about the pitching rotation strategy used by UR against Chapman last year, Chapman did not face the top 3 starters for the dawgs.  However,they pitched Walker twice, I am not sure where he was in their rotation last year.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on January 16, 2007, 09:55:25 PM
Quote from: dawg gone it on January 16, 2007, 08:15:24 PM

Chapman I believe is ranked #2 while UR isnt ranked.  As I stated in an earlier post, based upon last year and the fact that UR has just about everyone back, I dont understand the big spread in evaluating the two.


The big flaw in your pleading for a ranking position is that you are basing most of your argument on last year's teams. The new poll is what is expected in 2007. At some point you just have to accept that the polls are not going to change until the season starts and Redlands proves it on the field. I hope they do... the West could be a very powerful region this year and it would only make it better with the emergence of a national power SCIAC team.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: dawg gone it on January 16, 2007, 10:03:24 PM
My point wasnt really about national ranking, I was trying to rebut the Captain realtive to Chapman vs the SCIAC.  I dont know their record vs the rest of the league, nor do I have the energy to do the research, but against the top dawg, (pun intended), they were closely matched last year.  Again, from what I can tell and what Ive been told, they have the core of the team back and therefore, they should match up well against Chapman again this year.  I hope! ;)
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on January 16, 2007, 10:24:32 PM
dgi,

Here are Chapman's 2006 results.

   http://www1.chapman.edu/athletics/05-06/baseball/teamgbg.htm
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: dawg gone it on January 16, 2007, 10:44:22 PM
GF, Ive seen them before and I would have to say that UR and Chapman had very similar seasons.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Captain Morgan on January 16, 2007, 11:52:53 PM
Quote from: dawg gone it on January 16, 2007, 10:44:22 PM
GF, Ive seen them before and I would have to say that UR and Chapman had very similar seasons.

Similar with one big exception, Chapman was a much better team. I think their post-season success would attest to that.

Keep looking at the world through your Bulldog-colored glasses and all you ever see is Bulldogs. Take them off once in a while and see the world as it truly is. I am not saying that Redlands is not a good team, but to attempt to put them on the same level as Chapman is crazy.

"Table for one Redlands fan at the Looney Bin Cafe, please."
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on January 16, 2007, 11:58:02 PM
Quote from: Captain Morgan on January 16, 2007, 11:52:53 PM

Similar with one big exception, Chapman was a much better team. I think their post-season success would attest to that.

Keep looking at the world through your Bulldog-colored glasses and all you ever see is Bulldogs. Take them off once in a while and see the world as it truly is. I am not saying that Redlands is not a good team, but to attempt to put them on the same level as Chapman is crazy.

"Table for one Redlands fan at the Looney Bin Cafe, please."

Haa-Haa, Captain! One karma point for making me laugh out loud! You might be an idiot sometimes, but you are always entertaining.

Anyone planning to be in the Appleton area for the World Series? I will be in town visiting family and will make a few of the games. It might be nice to hook up with some of you guys while at the games.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Captain Morgan on January 17, 2007, 12:04:56 AM
Quote from: dawg gone it on January 16, 2007, 10:44:22 PM
GF, Ive seen them before and I would have to say that UR and Chapman had very similar seasons.

Dawg, here is the newest top ten rankings. I think you will find it more to your liking than the "other" poll. Maybe this will shut you up for awhile:

1. Redlands
2. Redlands
3. Redlands
4. Redlands
5. Redlands
6. Redlands
7. Redlands
8. Redlands
9. Chapman
10. Redlands
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: dawg gone it on January 17, 2007, 12:06:32 AM
All I can go by is the head to head competition.....and I like those bulldog glasses....I was just making a comparison on the results from last year, you may be right, but I cant see the gap being all that big.  

Lets see how they do this year and maybe Ill take the glasses off afterwards. ;)  Or maybe buy you a pair! :D :D

Im very excited for the season to start.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: dawg gone it on January 17, 2007, 12:08:05 AM
I like the poll but for one ranking....
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on January 17, 2007, 12:18:24 AM
Quote from: dawg gone it on January 17, 2007, 12:06:32 AM
All I can go by is the head to head competition.....and I like those bulldog glasses....I was just making a comparison on the results from last year, you may be right, but I cant see the gap being all that big.  

Lets see how they do this year and maybe Ill take the glasses off afterwards. ;)  Or maybe buy you a pair!


... and one karma point to the Dawg for giving it right back to the Captain! This is starting to get fun! More posts like that last one, Dawg and you may be back to positive karma in a few months. Wow... somebody has it out for you, huh? Can't blame the Captain one that one as he cannot give or take karma away yet! Probably a Chapman fan :)
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: dawg gone it on January 17, 2007, 12:36:36 AM
my negative karma comes from football...the Oxy crew and a few CLU guys i think...I dont even post and drop 5 points....I worried about it for a while, now I just laugh.

I am fairly new to d3 sports and am leaning that the game is played somewhat differently on this board than others.  Its fun though.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on January 17, 2007, 01:15:52 AM
Quote from: dawg gone it on January 17, 2007, 12:36:36 AM
my negative karma comes from football...the Oxy crew and a few CLU guys i think...I dont even post and drop 5 points....I worried about it for a while, now I just laugh.

I am fairly new to d3 sports and am leaning that the game is played somewhat differently on this board than others.  Its fun though.

D3ers play(and post) for the love of the game! We go (or went) to class, did all of our own homework, and got our degrees while playing a sport we loved.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on January 17, 2007, 08:54:57 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 17, 2007, 01:15:52 AM
Quote from: dawg gone it on January 17, 2007, 12:36:36 AM
my negative karma comes from football...the Oxy crew and a few CLU guys i think...I dont even post and drop 5 points....I worried about it for a while, now I just laugh.

I am fairly new to d3 sports and am leaning that the game is played somewhat differently on this board than others.  Its fun though.

D3ers play(and post) for the love of the game! We go (or went) to class, did all of our own homework, and got our degrees while playing a sport we loved.
Some of us never played, but we pass all the other tests. :)
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on January 18, 2007, 02:47:56 PM
Similar Seasons????????????????????????  I guess a team winning an average conference and going 2 and out in a regional is just about the same as a team that finished 3rd at the World Series.  I am with you Morgan, or is it Captain?  If Redlands hung tight with Chapman during the 3 games, and they threw One pitcher (who was a senior) in two of those games, then that means Redlands had just as good of a year and they should pretty much just blow everyone away this year.  I guess the whole region should just call it quits and let redlands go to the Series because they played Chapman close....but remember, they still LOST.
DGI- You can talk about things as much as you would like but remember, you talked all the talk during football and honestly, made a fool of yourself.  Don't do the same during baseball or OxyBob might come find you ;)
I really have no clue what will happen this year in the SCIAC but hope its a good one.  Who opens up first?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: dawg gone it on January 18, 2007, 06:29:45 PM
Wild One...made a fool of myself???? What bold statements did I allegedly make about the Redlands football program????  Point them out to me..please, and Please....stop the hate.

As to baseball, I compared the schedules of the two schools, UR and Chapman and said they had similar seasons and that UR played them very tough.  They did.  Show me how I was wrong.   Chapman did do better in the tourney, much better, but as we all know in baseball, a bounce of the ball, a hot pitcher and any other million and one reasons can change the entire complexion of a season or a tourney. Ask the Red Sox about bad bounces and what effect they can have.  Im not woulda coulda shoulda-ing the final results, I just formed an opinion about the overall perspective of the two teams. 

I never made any predictions about this years baseball season, no predictions or bold statements, just a logical inquiry.  Your post regarding those issues has no merit or foundation.   Maybe you should reread my posts before you start calling me names.  Thanx.  Almost forgot, didnt UR beat CLU last season in football with a Qb that never started a game and only threw 5 passes all season?   :o  ouch!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on January 18, 2007, 08:26:40 PM
Quote from: dawg gone it on January 18, 2007, 06:29:45 PM
  Almost forgot, didnt UR beat CLU last season in football with a Qb that never started a game and only threw 5 passes all season?   :o  ouch!

Wrong board....
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on January 19, 2007, 11:43:05 AM
IMHO, this is the year that all teams within the sciac will play a higher level of baseball than what we saw last year. I understand that the Dawgs had a good season, but can it be repeated? Maybe, but i doubt that we are going to see Cal Lu have a big down year.

When i look at the Redlands team of last year, i try to compare them to the National's Team of two years ago. The nat's came out strong and played good ball. They didn't make it to far into the postseason season but showed that they could play ball instead of being the laughing stock of Canada. Well, they sucked this year. Like every team that has good years there will be a time when they struggle to repeat a strong year. Something that i feel(just my opinioin, not piss matches please) will happen to the DAwgs this year.

Btw, Look for the Leos to field a strong team. I've stopped by campus yesterday and already heard the Aluminum bats in full swing and guys getting themselves ready for a good year in baseball. The same can be said for the boys in Orange and black, as most of them can be seen hitting the weights and practicing basics and fundamental on peterson field.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Captain Morgan on January 19, 2007, 11:56:27 AM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on January 19, 2007, 11:43:05 AM
The same can be said for the boys in Orange and black, as most of them can be seen hitting the weights and practicing basics and fundamental on peterson field.

If, by the Orange and Black, you are referring to Occidental, I have a few words:

"You can't polish turds." You can shine it up all you want, but it is still just crap when you are done with it.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on January 19, 2007, 12:09:34 PM
Haha, Nice. I never knew that these fellas would be turds. Thanks for the info.
I sure hope that they can prove this wrong as they play a better game this year. I understand that they might have a long way to go in many peoples opinion, but, i fill that they have a decent pitching staff and good players coming back.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on January 19, 2007, 01:03:59 PM
Quote from: Captain Morgan on January 19, 2007, 11:56:27 AM
"You can't polish turds." You can shine it up all you want, but it is still just crap when you are done with it.

Once again, The Captain does not sugarcoat anything.

Like him or not, we all know what he is thinking!!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on January 19, 2007, 01:21:01 PM
Dawg-  If coming on a board and pretending to have a daughter thats a student at Redlands who just happens to be best friends with a certain QB, who just happens to be the next big thing in the SCIAC, who THEN turns out to be your son.......if thats not making an ass out of yourself then I guess I really dont know what is.
Enough of the personal stuff.  Honest predictions for the year.

Mine are....
1. ULV
2. CLU
3. Redlands/ CMS
5. Whittier
6. OXY
7. P-P
8. Cal Tech (the Beavers do make the from page on Sports Illustrated ofr being the worst college baseball team in history).
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on January 19, 2007, 01:50:01 PM
I feel like this site could raise money by showing a pay-per-view fight by locking Oxy Bob, Wild Thing, and The Dawg in a room and setting up a few cameras!

"The Somebody's-Gettin'-Whacked SCIAC Showdown"

Any takers???

Odds???
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on January 19, 2007, 02:09:53 PM
Poppa-  I am going to take myself in the Battle-Royaaaalllll!!!!!!!  But that is only because I have never met either of these guys. :)  I will say Bob would whip me in the Knowledge Bowl because he uses words I have never heard of.  Dawg, well, he is from Redlands so he must be pretty a pretty bad man ;)
Seriously though Dawg, I am sure you are a nice guy, just a little friendly ribbing between cyber-associates
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on January 19, 2007, 06:40:14 PM
Hey WT,

I notice that you have the ULV as high as number #1 in the SCIAC. Just out of curiosity, can you explain why you would make that pick with the Leo's.
I know that they will field a good team, but is there anything about them that SCIAC fans need to know?

Do you really think that the stags will reach the 3rd spot?. They don't return a lot of experince and will likely have to rebuild with what they have. Don't get me wrong though, they always seem to have a pretty good defense. Their pitching staff would be their biggest iffy this year.

Also, why did you pick oxy finishing that low. Can you explain????
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Captain Morgan on January 19, 2007, 06:48:28 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 19, 2007, 01:50:01 PM
I feel like this site could raise money by showing a pay-per-view fight by locking Oxy Bob, Wild Thing, and The Dawg in a room and setting up a few cameras!

"The Somebody's-Gettin'-Whacked SCIAC Showdown"

Any takers???

Odds???

I think we should set it up as a regional with rankings and all. Each poster chooses a region to be in and they get points thoughout the season. Top posters get invited to the regional and square off in the Posting World Series, held live on-line.

West region poster rankings:
1. Ralph Turner
2. Big Poppa
3. OxyBob
4. Wild Thing
5. Dawg Gone It
6. Browneagle
7. Captain Morgan (have to put myself in this, but lower seeded based on low # of posts)
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Captain Morgan on January 19, 2007, 06:56:15 PM
Quote from: Captain Morgan on January 19, 2007, 06:48:28 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 19, 2007, 01:50:01 PM
I feel like this site could raise money by showing a pay-per-view fight by locking Oxy Bob, Wild Thing, and The Dawg in a room and setting up a few cameras!

"The Somebody's-Gettin'-Whacked SCIAC Showdown"

Any takers???

Odds???

I think we should set it up as a regional with rankings and all. Each poster chooses a region to be in and they get points thoughout the season. Top posters get invited to the regional and square off in the Posting World Series, held live on-line.

West region poster rankings:
1. Ralph Turner
2. Big Poppa
3. OxyBob
4. Wild Thing
5. Dawg Gone It
6. Browneagle
7. Captain Morgan (have to put myself in this, but lower seeded based on low # of posts)

... but I am still waiting for Dawg to ask why Redlands did not make my ranking!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: dawg gone it on January 21, 2007, 04:19:19 PM
WT...yeah I admitted I made a mistake and paid the price.   I love bantering with you because its not persoanl, just in fun.  I have no problem with that.  I think the Captain is my kind of guy.  I really have to laugh at his posts. 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on January 21, 2007, 06:08:16 PM
Quote from: dawg gone it on January 21, 2007, 04:19:19 PM
WT...yeah I admitted I made a mistake and paid the price.   I love bantering with you because its not persoanl, just in fun.  I have no problem with that.  I think the Captain is my kind of guy.  I really have to laugh at his posts. 
Three strikes and out?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on January 22, 2007, 01:16:31 PM
I have a quick question for any of you SCIAC posters, Do you guys know who in the league is considered the best pitcher for 07? And if so, what type of pitchs does he like to throw?
Do you guys know of any team who has pitcher that throws an awesome curveball or change up? You know, something that might resemble what Pedro Martinez used to throw when he had that stellar season with the Red Sox?
Although, i never pitched in my life and only played little league( where most kids couldn't even throw things like this), i just have become fascinated with the art of throwing a change up or curveball. Eric Gagne used to do it best for 3 seasons and just left me in awe with those types of pitches.

I was really looking forward to reading what Dawg had to say about the upcoming SCIAC season. I sure am going to miss his assumptions and words about how the dawgs were sure the team that could wup on the Panthers and all other West regional teams.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on January 22, 2007, 04:14:58 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on January 22, 2007, 01:16:31 PM
fascinated with the art of throwing a change up.
Me too on the art of a change up.

Are there any knuckleball pitchers (and catchers)?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on January 22, 2007, 05:59:58 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on January 22, 2007, 04:14:58 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on January 22, 2007, 01:16:31 PM
fascinated with the art of throwing a change up.
Me too on the art of a change up.

Are there any knuckleball pitchers (and catchers)?

I once read a quote by Charlie Hough that stated you only throw a knuckleball when you have nothing else to throw.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: d$ on January 23, 2007, 12:26:27 PM
My buddy who plays for a NWC team told me about Linfield College having a knuckleballer. 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on January 23, 2007, 01:52:35 PM
Quote from: d$ on January 23, 2007, 12:26:27 PM
My buddy who plays for a NWC team told me about Linfield College having a knuckleballer. 
Big Poppa would say he is over the hill.  I say he has an advantage because it is unusual.

New question:  Who is the best sunflower seed spitter in the league? ;D
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on January 23, 2007, 02:14:48 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on January 23, 2007, 01:52:35 PM
Quote from: d$ on January 23, 2007, 12:26:27 PM
My buddy who plays for a NWC team told me about Linfield College having a knuckleballer. 
Big Poppa would say he is over the hill.  I say he has an advantage because it is unusual.

New question:  Who is the best sunflower seed spitter in the league? ;D

I say it is a huge disadvantage because you can run all over knuckleballers (see Tim Wakefield). They turn a lot of singles into doubles and triples.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: infielddad on January 23, 2007, 02:57:28 PM
It would be extremely hard to envision a DIII pitcher who would have enough command of a knuckleball so he could be effective.  He would have to be able to throw it consistently for strikes, have it move enough to be effective, have umpires still call it a strike, and have it not be subject to that ping sound that gets hits when wood gets you an out.
I would also agree about holding runners.  You would need a catcher with a cannon, a huge cannon, and even then you would  have a track meet on the bases with balls in the dirt and coaches/runners knowing they can get huge leads and early jumps.
Nearly every effective pitcher at the DIII level throws either a slider or a change.  Having the third pitch beyond the fastball/curveball is what makes the difference between the good pitchers and upper echelon because it is rare at the DIII level to see anyone who can rely on velocity alone.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Bob Maxwell on January 23, 2007, 03:02:14 PM
I don't believe I've ever seen anyone at any level who could rely on velocity alone... eventually they hit you with just velocity.  Its velocity and location that make the velocity so effective.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: infielddad on January 23, 2007, 03:12:43 PM
My post assumed the pitcher would have some element of command with the velocity.
IMO, it is still the ability to either change speed with a change up or to confuse with the slider that makes the difference.  I have been told by many that the pitcher at Chapman(Drag) is so good/dominating because of his slider.
At the DIII level, I have seen pitchers dominate with  velocity and the ability to throw strikes.  Remember, not all DIII fields have great lighting for night games.  Watched Adam Frey, in 2004, throw nothing but fastballs for 3 innings or relief and barely get touched.  He was 89-92, poor lighting at a poor field. The announcers for the other team admitted they were totally overmatched.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: d$ on January 23, 2007, 04:10:28 PM
the type of pitcher (knuckleballer, powerguy, etc.) doesn't dictate the type of lead or jump you can get.  Sure the ball takes longer to reach homeplate but he who's to say a 80-82 guy doesn't have quicker feet and release on his move to first or quicker delivery home then a guy who throws 90.  Oftentimes power pitchers have high leg kicks slowing their delivery home.  Holding runners is all about varying your time home, not getting into a consistent pattern that other teams can pickup, thus getting great/early jumps.  It has little to do with the type of pitcher as opposed to who is on the mound meaning:  time of delivery home, type of move, quickness of feet, overall mound presence, varying patterns.   Knuckleballer is easier to steal off of cause of flight of ball and the ability (or lack there of) of the catcher to handle the pitch on a consistent basis. 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: infielddad on January 23, 2007, 05:35:57 PM
d$,
In general, I would agree with you.  Where I would have a different view is a "knuckleballer."  When you are throwing other pitches, you can vary the delivery and include a slide step.  I have never seen a knuckleballer who can vary the delivery and who can pitch with a slide step and I cannot envision how you could be effective throwing that pitch with a slide step.  So, I do believe the type of lead and ability to run/no need to worry about a slide step is dictated by a knuckleball pitcher. That front foot has to come up. Not sure why we are talking about this though.  I still don't think the knuckleball can be effective in college. :-\
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on January 23, 2007, 05:53:06 PM
Infield

1) You have given these poster and myself some good insight on the types of pitches guys at the D3 level usually throw.
2) Your opinions are welcomed on a board that sometimes is dead
3) IMO, like i mentioned before, i enjoy the art of pitching in general and seek to oneday, for the fun of it, throw an excellent curveball, knuckleball or change up.
Again, I grew up playing little league years ago, but never saw those pitchs. Never played H.S. baseball because I always stuck around Football and track.
However, i constantly have followed my beloved dodgers and enjoy when "This week in baseball " airs a "how to pitch demo" for all the youngbucs like me who ever want to throw one.
Please keep us updated with your inight all of you  posters out there.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: infielddad on January 23, 2007, 06:16:45 PM
eagle64, if you want to really learn about pitching, watch someone like Jamie Moyer and listen to what he says.  If he throws 80mph, it is a great day.  His theory is that he can get anyone out if his change is more than 10mph less that his fastball.
To illustrate that point, our son told me this from a scout day at Trinity.  The scouts were watching a lefty who threw 85-86.  Took a few notes and then started to walk away.  As they did, he threw a change up at 68mph, with the same motion as his fastball.  Every scout came back and watched the rest of his workout.
The  ability to change speeds, while using the same motion, can get people out no matter what level of play. Our son thinks Homer Bailey moving up rapidly in the Reds organization will be a superstar because of his easy motion and 99mph velocity.  He also things the same of Eric Hurley in the Rangers organization.  Hurley is about 92mph but has a terrific change up at 78-80 and consistently for strikes.  You cannot read it.  Makes his fastball look faster and constantly gets you on your front foot. Our son has had some success with Bailey, even when the gun read 101mph...probably a tad high.  Had no success with Hurley.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on January 23, 2007, 06:33:04 PM
Thats exactly what mister "Game Over" used to do with my Boys in Blue. For a second i just thought that he was the only one who likes to think about setting their pitches slower than what they can really throw.
It looked crazy, yet, vicious whenever he would throw 2 fatsballs that clocked in at 108 and the would suddenly throw a sweet and slow 70 m.p.h change up. It looked so sweet when he did this to the Yankees All star line up back in 04 at dodger stadium.
Btw, the only reason why i am bringing this up is so that i can get ready for baseball season and the love for the game.

Btw, did your son play against the two pitchers you mentioned above in college or in the pro's? 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Bob Maxwell on January 23, 2007, 08:35:59 PM
And as you two have pointed out very well... no matter what the top end is that velocity someone throws, it is the change in velocity that gets batters out.

Although it is nice to have a higher top end as yes there are hitters, some entire teams and circumstances where velocity will work by its self... if you have it with location.

:D

So we all agree!

Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: d$ on January 24, 2007, 02:33:22 PM
infielddad,
I'm not saying it can be effective in college.  I am curious to know why you think knuckleballers can't slide step.  I meant varying the delivery home as in the length of time between the moment he comes set and moment he starts his motion home (slides step).  Yes the front foot does come up off the ground as it would with any other pitcher, the difference between pitchers you can run on and pitchers you can't is the amount of time from that point to the moment the catcher receives that ball.  Don't you think coaches would want guys with less velocity (takes longer for the ball to travel to the catcher once it has been delivered) to quicken their delivery home?  Does a knuckleballer fall into this catergory or is he just an someone all to his own and he has to be slow home with absolutley no pick-off me to keep the runners honest?   The idea is to limit stolen bases by controling the parts of the game that you have control over i.e. quickness to the plate, varying looks, multiple pick moves, and quick feet.  yes passed balls and wild pitches are going to happen. 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: infielddad on January 25, 2007, 01:10:10 PM
"I meant varying the delivery home as in the length of time between the moment he comes set and moment he starts his motion home (slides step)."

d$, I am not sure we are talking about the same definition of a slide step.  It is not the "start of the motion home" that is a slide step.  It is the way/the motion used to deliver the pitch.  Instead of a leg kick, the pitcher steps directly to home.  With the motion necessary to throw a knuckleball, including the arm speed or lack of it, the use of the slide step to speed the delivery of the pitch seems incongruous with the arm speed to deliver the pitch.  In other words, your legs are going faster and the arm is going slower.
Can a knuckleball pitcher hold runners?  Sure.  They are not going to throw a knuckleball to first.  IMO, they are not going to be nearly as effective as other pitchers.
Again, I don't see this discussion to be of much use as I don't envision a pitcher being successful throwing just a knuckleball in DIII baseball.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: d$ on January 25, 2007, 03:37:49 PM
Whether it's a slide step or a high leg kick home, what moves first....the front leg.  Exaclty the motion used to deliver the ball which is an abbreviated leg kick quickening the delivery home.  Hand speed should be the same on all pitches.  A pitcher doesn't speed up his arm speed during a slide step, he seperates a split second sooner enabling his arm to catch up with or be on time with his quicker lower half.  i agree that hey may not be that effective although I am curious to see a good one. if a kid has good arm action and hand speed he would not have to resort to a knuckleball. 
I wasn't suggesting he throws a knuckleball to first but you can lob the ball over to first and keep runners honest with quick feet and varying the amount of time you hold the ball before going home.  I think it would be a team by team basis as far as a knuckleballer's effectiveness goes.  Some better contact gap-gap teams would probably have better success and patience than a free-swinging club.  More oftentimes than not, I would agree with the lack of effectiveness but you never know.   
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Captain Morgan on January 30, 2007, 03:01:06 PM
Let's get off the knuckleballer and back to real baseball. Those who spend time debating the merits of a knuckleball have never seen the effectiveness of a fastball on the corner.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 02, 2007, 01:06:22 PM
Pomona-Pitzer split with NAIA Westmont last weekend. Not a good sign for the Sagehens as Westmont is traditionally the doormat of the GSAC conference.

Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 02, 2007, 05:21:40 PM
Dawg-

Your beloved Redlands made the ABCA pre-season poll at #23. Maybe you are right about them this year.

http://www.muhlenberg.edu/sports/abcapoll.html (http://www.muhlenberg.edu/sports/abcapoll.html)


It may hurt you to know that Chapman is still ranked very high at #3, but at least your 'Dawgs are getting some love.

Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 02, 2007, 05:53:43 PM
Ouch. sounds like our hens haven't grown-up just yet. I hope that they come out doing better and show up with a better game plan next time around.

Btw, Pops

Dawg was laid to rest as of two weeks ago. Unfortunately, the Old Yellar just couldn't make it through. I had hope that he would have stuck around to have added more light and insight to SCIAC baseball, but croaked sometime last week. I wish him and his Pups best of luck once they get their season started.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 02, 2007, 05:57:01 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on February 02, 2007, 05:53:43 PM
Dawg was laid to rest as of two weeks ago. Unfortunately, the Old Yellar just couldn't make it through. I had hope that he would have stuck around to have added more light and insight to SCIAC baseball, but croaked sometime last week. I wish him and his Pups best of luck once they get their season started.

Who laid him to rest? That's too bad... I enjoyed his banter.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 02, 2007, 06:08:03 PM
I personally will miss his banter. I guess all that energy that he spent during the football season spreading the message that Redlands would dominate the SCIAC in football, basketball and baseball just washed him out.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 04, 2007, 02:43:10 AM
Simpson University (CA) 20 at Caltech 6   

Greensboro 4 at La Verne 3   

Simpson (CA) 7 at Occidental 8   

Greensboro 3 vs. Cal Lutheran 5   

Simpson (CA) 9 at Occidental 10   

Greensboro 1 at Cal Lutheran 3



SCIAC Basbeall Website:
http://www.thesciac.org/m-baseball/standings.htm (http://www.thesciac.org/m-baseball/standings.htm)

The website fails to list Whittier at 0-3, but it might be tough to keep updated as they were on the road this weekend. I am certain it will be done by Monday.

Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 05, 2007, 10:38:28 AM
Congratulations to Oxy on their split with Simpson ;D
I was expecting a little better defense from the Boys in Orange & Black but i assume the old butterflies in the stomach got them. I hope that they learned from their first two games against simpson.

Btw, It looks like the Cal Lu of the past has returned. Great job to hear that they played a solid defensive game. Look for La Verne to rebound from such a close loss.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on February 05, 2007, 12:17:59 PM
Eagle-  I think you mean Oxy's sweep of Simpson.  Good to see them start off on a good note, but would probably not look too much into it.  I looked up Simpsons record from last year and they only won 3 games.  Hell, I had never even heard of Simpson before.  Either way, lets hope the Tigers are turning it around a little bit and are going to help the SCIAC become a more competitive conference all around.

I stopped by the first game of the double-dip at Cal Lu and was very impressed with the new stadium feel at CLU.  There was a good crowd to watch and a great game played by both teams.  Greensborough had the biggest first baseman I have ever seen in my life.  He didnt really do anything at the plate though.  Didnt stay for the second game but looks like it was a good one.

Judging by the scores of the Whittier/Chapman series, either Chapman is pretty darn good, or Whittier is pretty darn bad.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 05, 2007, 12:55:49 PM
Quote from: Wild Thing on February 05, 2007, 12:17:59 PM

Judging by the scores of the Whittier/Chapman series, either Chapman is pretty darn good, or Whittier is pretty darn bad.

Chapman is even better than advertised, but I think Whittier is not a bad team. They were actually hanging with Chapman for a while, but could not finish the deal. Expect them to make a dent in the SCIAC this year.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 05, 2007, 02:05:45 PM
Thanks for the Correction W.T.  I am still trying to get over my hang Over from yesterdays Big game. I might have miss read what B.P put down on his previous post.

Simpson isn't that great. Oxy swept them at the start of the 04 and the 05 seasons. Yet, it looks like they were ready this time to put up a fight.
If oxy can build up a good defense, allow their starting pitchers to feel comfortable on the mound and have a decent offense of production from their all-sciac catcher, infielder and the rest of the team, expect them to come out on fire within the next two weeks.

Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 05, 2007, 02:19:59 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on February 05, 2007, 02:05:45 PM

If oxy can build up a good defense, allow their starting pitchers to feel comfortable on the mound and have a decent offense of production from their all-sciac catcher, infielder and the rest of the team, expect them to come out on fire within the next two weeks.



That is what every team is hoping for. If those guys produce, pitch and play defense any team would win. If they cannot do those things, expect them to be weak this year.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 07, 2007, 06:11:22 PM
I am confident that the Boys in Orange and Black will not be like that this year. I am sure they will be ready to take on the top teams of the SCIAC and start to build a better reputation. ;D
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: 2X All-American on February 07, 2007, 06:34:01 PM
Oxy will not be a contender or have a good reputation in the sciac or anywhere else until they can beat Chapman. Chapman has not scheduled a game with Oxy for three straight years now for the same reason they dont play Cal Tech; they have been horrible. It doesn't do anything for Chapman or any other team to beat up on a bad team. Oxy will have to come in the top three in the sciac for Chapman to even consider scheduling a game with them in '08.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 07, 2007, 07:25:13 PM
In the words of Nacho Libre...... ouch "Take it Easeeeeeeee".

I take it that you are a former panther player. Of course that would be good experience for Oxy to play the likes of Chapman. However, those schedules have been compelted for over 4 years now. I understand some schools like to do long contract like that. But, i hope that Oxy does play a chapman like team in order to get themselves a better reputation. In the mean time, I feel that they will make more strides than they have done in the past this season. I am sure they want to feed off the same success as their football and basketball programs. 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 09, 2007, 05:24:52 PM
Congratulations to the tigers on earning another Victory this week against San Diego Christian Univeristy.

In fact, i am sure the  men in Orange and black enjoyed beating the Newly formed NAIA baseball program who was fresh off a 17-5 trouncing over#22 ranked DII UCSD.

Senior Jayson Williams answered the call when his coached asked him to be the starting pitcher and went for  six strong innings allowing 3 runs on 8 hits.


Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 10, 2007, 01:34:39 AM
ORANGE, Calif. –  The Chapman University baseball team captured the opening game of a three-game series with Cal Lutheran University with a 7-1 decision at home on Friday afternoon. Senior All-America RHP Devin Drag was in top form for the Panthers, hurling eight shutout innings for his second win of the season. The win was Chapman's fourth in a row to open the season.

Drag allowed just four hits and struck out 11 in his eight innings of work.

Chapman (4-0) got plenty of offense once again, pounding out double-digit hits (12) for the third time this season, including a 3-for-3 performance from junior DH Stuart Hyman. The Panthers scored four runs in the fourth thanks to a two-run single by sophomore IF Ryan Cavan. Hyman and sophomore IF Patrick Ohail followed with RBI doubles to give Chapman a 5-0 lead. Sophomore C Matt Pearson added some insurance in the sixth inning with a two-run homer.

Justin Bogoyevac and D.J. Milonas each had a pair of hits for Cal Lutheran (2-1), which dropped its first game of the young season.

The series moves from Hart Park to Thousand Oaks where the two teams will play a doubleheader beginning at 11 a.m. on Saturday.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Just_Some_Guy on February 11, 2007, 12:23:15 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 10, 2007, 01:34:39 AM
Justin Bogoyevac and D.J. Milonas each had a pair of hits for Cal Lutheran (2-1), which dropped its first game of the young season.

The series moves from Hart Park to Thousand Oaks where the two teams will play a doubleheader beginning at 11 a.m. on Saturday.


Actually, Cal Lutheran went 2-0 against Greensboro the previous weekend.

Chapman takes two more from Cal Lutheran Saturday.

Chapman 5 - Cal Lutheran 2

Wayde Kitches 6IP, 2H, 1 ER
Kurt Yacko 3IP, 2H, 1 ER
SS Ryan Cavan 2-5
3B/P Kurt Yacko 3-4, 2 RBI

The DH M. Young has 2 of Cal Lutheran's 4 hits.


Chapman 18 - Cal Lutheran 7
SP Luzar 5.2 IP, 4 ER
SS Ryan Cavan 3-5, 2RBI, 4 runs
CF Dean, RF Fraser, 2B(s) Redding & Norman all collected 2 hits each.

For Cal Lutheran 1B Hartman was 3-5, 2 RBI & RF Davidson was 2-2, 3 RBI

Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 12, 2007, 02:50:20 PM
Ouch, Sounds like the Kingsmen got pounded by the Panthers. However, i still feel like the Who will end up being a strong team this year. Look for this team to come out on fire next time around
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 13, 2007, 05:24:26 PM
So far the only teams to have already started their seasons are Cal Lu, La Verne and Oxy.
Yet, the SCIAC chapms have yet to start a game. I'm not sure if their pre-season game against the Alumuni even counts, but i expect that they will not be ready for a strong Pac Lu. team come thursday. Not only that, they head to an Arizona Invitational that is full of strong teams from the NWC. I epxect the Dawgs to ge pounded by the teams like Linfield and even the Leopards. At least La Verne has played games and should be ready to face the dawgs. Look for the dawgs to start of really slow and confused this year.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: RFB on February 15, 2007, 06:23:45 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on February 13, 2007, 05:24:26 PM
So far the only teams to have already started their seasons are Cal Lu, La Verne and Oxy.
Yet, the SCIAC chapms have yet to start a game. I'm not sure if their pre-season game against the Alumuni even counts, but i expect that they will not be ready for a strong Pac Lu. team come thursday. Not only that, they head to an Arizona Invitational that is full of strong teams from the NWC. I epxect the Dawgs to ge pounded by the teams like Linfield and even the Leopards. At least La Verne has played games and should be ready to face the dawgs. Look for the dawgs to start of really slow and confused this year.

BE64,

You usually make good points and comments but this one deserves a response. Yes, game experience helps but you forget that the Dawgs are coming off a conference championship. You for one should know what that does for recruiting. Count on the Dawgs being loaded and deep with talent this year. Plus they have a great coach at the helm in Scott Laverty. They will be ready to play in Arizona
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: RFB on February 16, 2007, 01:25:00 PM
Redlands opened their season in Arizona with a 7-2 win over Pacific Lutheran. Good start for the Dawgs.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 16, 2007, 02:40:29 PM
I know I know RFB. By the way, Awesome job by the Dawgs. Although, i did doubt them against Pac Lu. i will go ahead and make me a crow flavored sandwhich fro lunch.

You are right the dawgs are coming off a SCIAC crown, but just like any champion, there is a big fat target on their backs that any team is willing to jump on and prove a point that the year before was a fluke. If Redlands meets up with Linfield, epxect to hear a good game. Linfield is coming off a strong openning round in the Arizona invetational after dismantling the leos. So this should be a good game if the cats and dawgs play each one another.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Sabretooth Tiger on February 16, 2007, 04:46:58 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 02, 2007, 05:57:01 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on February 02, 2007, 05:53:43 PM
Dawg was laid to rest as of two weeks ago. Unfortunately, the Old Yellar just couldn't make it through. I had hope that he would have stuck around to have added more light and insight to SCIAC baseball, but croaked sometime last week. I wish him and his Pups best of luck once they get their season started.

Who laid him to rest? That's too bad... I enjoyed his banter.

I believe that his exile was self-imposed, driven in large part by the ongoing hostile posts directed his way.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on February 16, 2007, 07:30:41 PM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tiger on February 16, 2007, 04:46:58 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 02, 2007, 05:57:01 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on February 02, 2007, 05:53:43 PM
Dawg was laid to rest as of two weeks ago. Unfortunately, the Old Yellar just couldn't make it through. I had hope that he would have stuck around to have added more light and insight to SCIAC baseball, but croaked sometime last week. I wish him and his Pups best of luck once they get their season started.

Who laid him to rest? That's too bad... I enjoyed his banter.

I believe that his exile was self-imposed, driven in large part by the ongoing hostile posts directed his way.
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that his son is not on the Redlands baseball roster. :(
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: RedandPurple on February 18, 2007, 08:07:20 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on February 16, 2007, 02:40:29 PM
I know I know RFB. By the way, Awesome job by the Dawgs. Although, i did doubt them against Pac Lu. i will go ahead and make me a crow flavored sandwhich fro lunch.

You are right the dawgs are coming off a SCIAC crown, but just like any champion, there is a big fat target on their backs that any team is willing to jump on and prove a point that the year before was a fluke. If Redlands meets up with Linfield, epxect to hear a good game. Linfield is coming off a strong openning round in the Arizona invetational after dismantling the leos. So this should be a good game if the cats and dawgs play each one another.

Browneagle64:
I was there and you were right. It was a GOOD game. Plenty of excitement for all. The 'Cats won it in 10 innings 9-6.

Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 20, 2007, 11:37:12 AM
Congratulations to the tigers for their first SCIAC win over the beavers. I understand that every team in the SCIAC wins over the beavers, but a win is a win. So there. No need to hear a piss match about that.

Eventhough, the Dawgs openned up the 07 season with a win on thursday, their loss to linfield over the weekend actually told us a lot. Since this game between the dawgs and cats went on for 10 innings, everyone in the SCIAC should expect to see a decent pitching staff from the dawg pound. I understand that there will be several teams who will expose the dawgs pitchers, but in the end, these pitchers will be strong. I just can't wait an see what the dawgs will do in the SCIAC.
Sounds like the Leos are still struggling with youth.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on February 21, 2007, 03:14:23 PM
Eagle-  What do you make of CLU going 3-1 against the same teams in AZ?  LaVerne is terrible (judging by record) Whittier does not look much better.  Redlands probably won the 2 games they were supposed to and lost the 2 they were supposed to.  Cal Lu was 3-1 and smoked Linfield.  Do you think that is a good indication of how the SCIAC will shape up or not?  Just wondering since I don't ever see the other SCIAC schools in action.  I am hoping to get out to the Cal Lu/Pomona game on friday and check out the stadium thats pretty much done.  That place is sweet.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 21, 2007, 03:27:07 PM
Even though, Cal Lu was swept by Chapman for their very first games of the season, i would have to honestly say that their proformance at the Arizona Classic truely showed us that the kingsmen will mean business in 07 within the SCIAC.
Although, their is youth on this team, the kingmen have show leadership from their upperclassmen and their pitching staff. Something that will be needed if they decide to chase for the SCIAC crown. In addition, their offense is actually productive this time around, as this was evident against the likes of linfield and George Fox over the weekend.

As for Redlands, they showed up in Arizona as true champions. After starting a bit late into the season, they still showed some power in their bats and pitching arm to take on a good linfield team down the wire. However, because the dawgs had just started the season, they couldn't catch up with the sneeky cats. All i have to say, is that if the dawgs want to defend the SCIAC, they need to speed up their game. If not. Cal Lu will be happy to jump on the CROWN right now and take by using a decent pitching and batting. Expect to see the SCIAC to be fought between a good Cal Lu team and and slow starting Redlands team.

Btw, Don't forget my Tigers. Yes, Oxy will be making some noise as well this year. I expect them to take the Kingmen and Dawgs into more innings this year and come out with W's. ;D
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 21, 2007, 03:41:26 PM
If Cal Lu's baseball coaches can inspire their 07 team with stories about their most storied 02-03 teams, i can assure you that this years youth would want to re-copy those results. In fact, i am sure the young kingmen pitching staff can look at what Jason Hirsch did that year and what it did for his future career. By having a solid year at Cal Lu, Hirsch proved to other SCIAC coaches that the SCIAC could be won with pitching arms and a solid production with their bats.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on February 22, 2007, 10:16:03 AM
Eagle-  I am sure Cal Lu would love nothing more than to get back to the days of dominating the SCIAC and D-III west coast baseball, but I think they were much more dominant in the 90's.........http://www.clusports.com/pages/history/baseball_history.php

I think they will do what it takes to get through the SCIAC but not too sure how they would do on the national scene (if the series vs. Chapman is any indication, it will be a short trip to the post-season)

SCIAC baseball will probably never produce a legit national contender with all of the JC/NAIA/D-II schools around.  I know everyone that does not live in So Cal does not like that explination, but those who do know its a legit reason.

I am sorry for this one Eagle, but there is no way OXY will battle for a SCIAC title.  If they do, I will come on here and praise OXY until next season.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 22, 2007, 10:42:01 AM
Hahahah, and just when i was still feeling confident that my Tigers will produce better results this year in the SCIAC, my hopes get shot down.
I have No worries WT. Just like Chicago Cub fans out there, i have the same hope for the men in orange and black this year and hope to see a bigger step in reaching for that SCIAC crown. Like any sport, anything can happen on any given day. (i.e. CMS just lost a close game to the biggest boys out in the west, losing to chapman 4-3......)

Cal Lu will do fine. Your right about the decent and good teams out here that always produce a big time contender. However, i am optimistic that the Cal Lu's, La Verne's, Oxy's, & Redlands will put togther teams that will get them to that stage.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 22, 2007, 12:10:16 PM
Quote from: Wild Thing on February 22, 2007, 10:16:03 AM
SCIAC baseball will probably never produce a legit national contender with all of the JC/NAIA/D-II schools around.  I know everyone that does not live in So Cal does not like that explination, but those who do know its a legit reason.

I am sorry for this one Eagle, but there is no way OXY will battle for a SCIAC title.  If they do, I will come on here and praise OXY until next season.

The only SoCal D3 school that can effectively recruit players in the region is Chapman. I lost many players to them while coaching at an NAIA school. Most of the top level players in this area go to JCs in order to get drafted after one year. I even know of many players who turned down Cal-State Fullerton, USC, Long Beach State, etc... to play for a JC and get a jump start on pro-ball. The recruiting competition here is crazy.

I also agree on OXY... I love you enthusiasm, but OXY will not fare well in the SCIAC. They do not have the pitching to compete in their band box of a ball park. I have seen numerous routine fly balls land well beyond the left field wall there and many more bounce off the roof of the buildings in the outfield.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: utilitycat17 on February 22, 2007, 04:18:31 PM
BigPoppa, I'm sure you are right when you say you lost recruits to Chapman while at an NAIA school. However when you talk about the D1, D2, and JC players you are really talking about a different calibre of player altogether.  Chapman does not usually lose players to D1 schools, because they do not pursue those types of players typically.  Sometimes they may put some effort into a player they know they might not get, but typically they know what type of player they are looking for.  The type of player Chapman might look for is a diamond in the rough.  Someone who may have been overlooked for some reason.  However, ultimately they have built their program on developing the players they do get.  The best example of this would be Devon Drag.  When he first showed up at Chapman he was an overweight pitcher who didn't throw very hard.  With a lot of hard work from him and an environment that allowed him to succeed he has become the player that his is today.  I don't think what Chapman does is all that revolutionary really.  They have built a powerful program by developing their own players.  I personally believe that any of the SCIAC schools could do the same with the right coaching staff.  I honestly thought that a couple of years ago Pomona had done just that.  They looked like they had built a program that would last for many years, however when their coach moved on so did the good fortunes of the program.  I don't think it is unreasonable to believe that another of the SCIAC schools couldn't do the same at some point in the future. 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 23, 2007, 03:28:26 PM
Apparently, my tigers didn't take their game against the U. of British Columbia to seriously (exhibition game) or the UofB was used to played in cold weather like So. Cal is currently experiencing. I only hope that the Men in orange and Black bounce back and get ready for their first SCIAC test aginst a struggling La Verne Team. I'll be catching Saturday's double header and hope to provide some insight about both teams within the next week. I do hope that the tigers show of their pitching come saturday.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: RFB on February 23, 2007, 06:28:05 PM
Redlands beat NAIA #8 Cal Baptist 3-2. Nice win for the Dawgs.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 23, 2007, 06:56:20 PM
Great job to the Dawgs on their recent win.

I'm still not convenced if they are in full champion mode after just winning close games that could have gone the other way. Yet, i still understand that they are still in their openning week. If they don't catch up, expect Cal Lu to jump to the top of the SCIAC along with the Tigers from the Rock.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on February 24, 2007, 11:34:25 PM
Well, Cal Lu's return to domination of the SCIAC looks to have hit a bit of a roadblock of this weekend, losing 2 of 3 to Pomona-Pitzer.  Looks like the Kingsmen won the opener in Thousand Oaks, then got swept in the DH on Saturday.  PP had a decent year last year, and looks to have a bit of young talent around...
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Sabretooth Tiger on February 25, 2007, 03:42:23 PM
It looks like the Tigers got swept by the Leopards this weekend.  Per La Verne's website:

02-23-2007 -  LaVerne prevails 6-5
02-24-2007 -  LaVerne takes the doubleheader winning 15-2 and 7-4

Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on February 26, 2007, 11:02:20 AM
Not a good way to start a run at a SCIAC title for Cal Lu.  Is this team any good or not???  They beat some good teams and have lost 4 games to very good teams (Chapman 3, George Fox 1) but to lose to Pomona twice???!!!  Well thats just not gonna get it done.  Nice start for LaVerne.  Maybe they are better than advertised.  Sorry Eagle, tough weekend for your Tigers.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on February 26, 2007, 02:00:03 PM
Friday's matchup between Chapman and Redlands suddenly looks very appealing.

As of right now, they appear to be the class of the Southern California D3 Baseball teams. I would expect that Drag will throw Friday against Redlands and not Thursday against La Sierra.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 26, 2007, 02:40:35 PM
Congrats to the Leo's on their tough win on friday and taking the series away from my tigers on Saturday. Also congrats to the hens

As i expected, friday's game was going to be a test between a struggling leo team and a warm Oxy team. Looking at the box scores and stats, i was pleased to learn that Oxy's pitching staff did a fine job for 9 innings but couldn't save the game when they gave up a costly homer. That was the blow to the heart.

As for saturday, i witnessed an Oxy team that feel asleep on me during the 4th and-6th inning; giving up multiple runs and not good defense. I blamed the weird weather for a while, but only found out that the boys in Orange and black probably were dazed and confused after losing such a close game the previous day. For now, i only that they review film, stats, critiscm, and all other things so that they can pull themselves out of this funk and come away with big victories against the poets this fri. and sat. In Saying that I assure you that my tigers will be back in full form and better prepared for this weeks match up. Look for better pitching this time around.

Btw, what happend to the Kingsmen is by far another weird result. I had them down as sweeping a young hen team. However, the might chicken nugget prevailed against the ever so popular kingmens. This should be corrected or else they SCIAC will be open for just about anyone.

Hey, BP. Don't count on the dawgs taking the series this week. I'll put them down for one good win against the dawgs, but eventually will lose the other games. Don't get me wrong about wanting a sciac team to win, but the panthers are wel lprepared to pull off close games and have the pitching and power to help them do so. Expect to see drag play a good starting game against UOR on friday.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on February 27, 2007, 12:39:33 PM
BP- I agree that the matchup with Chapman and Redlands looks pretty good right now but I am not sure about Redlands just yet.  Of their 6 wins, 4 of them are against Cal Tech and Whitman (who have a combined 0-15 record).  Dont get me wrong, I realize Redlands beat Cal Baptist last week with their #1 going and probably CBU's 4 or 5, but again, I am not taking away from the win.  I hope Redlands can represent the SCIAC better that Whittier and Cal Lu did vs. Chapman.

Eagle-  Looks like a tough loss for your boys on friday.  Tough to come back from that kind of loss and I think it showed on saturday.  OXY is improving every week and I look for them to make a little noise this year, but they are obviously taking a step in the right direction for the years to come.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 27, 2007, 05:19:44 PM
W.T-- I am still confident that they will be back in full form ad full stride come friday against Whitter. I just hope that the pitching staff and the bats start to click a bit more. The Players just need to look at the games one at a time. If they follow this for this week, they will do just fine against whitter
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 27, 2007, 06:30:01 PM
Congratulations to the Stags on a good start of the season.
Wow, CMS is slowly creeping up on us in the SCIAC and in their non-league results. Awesome job the stags on taking away two games from the Poets this past weekend. From the looks of it, CMS is out on a mission in 07 to spoil some dreams. Heres what they have done so far against good teams and decent teams:
SAT Feb. 10 CAL STATE EAST BAY (2) 5-3, 8-7              Wins (2-1
FRI Feb. 16 PACIFIC UNIVERSITY 8-7 (10) 3-1
SAT Feb. 17 PACIFIC UNIVERSITY (2) 4-9, 3-14 3-3
TUE Feb. 20 Chapman University 3-4 3-4
FRI Feb. 23 *WHITTIER 6-8 3-5,0-1
SAT Feb. 24 *Whittier (2) 9-7 (10), 5-3 5-5,2-1
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 27, 2007, 10:47:41 PM
Thanks for the Stag update!

Quote from: Browneagle64 on February 27, 2007, 06:30:01 PM
Congratulations to the Stags on a good start of the season.
Wow, CMS is slowly creeping up on us in the SCIAC and in their non-league results. Awesome job the stags on taking away two games from the Poets this past weekend. From the looks of it, CMS is out on a mission in 07 to spoil some dreams. Heres what they have done so far against good teams and decent teams:
SAT Feb. 10 CAL STATE EAST BAY (2) 5-3, 8-7              Wins (2-1
FRI Feb. 16 PACIFIC UNIVERSITY 8-7 (10)                             3-1
SAT Feb. 17 PACIFIC UNIVERSITY (2) 4-9, 3-14                      3-3
TUE Feb. 20 Chapman University 3-4                                      3-4
FRI Feb. 23 *WHITTIER 6-8                                                    3-5,  0-1
SAT Feb. 24 *Whittier (2) 9-7 (10), 5-3                                    5-5, 2-1

Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 28, 2007, 04:41:24 PM
Congratulations to Former Redlands Baseball Player Nick Cavanagh who recently just Signed with the Houston Astros.
Whats funny is that  former Cal Lu Baseball player Jason Hirsch will be nick's future teammate. 
Here's some more info on MLB prospect Nick Cavangh:
It was announced last week that former University of Redlands baseball player Nick Cavanagh (Big Bear Lake, CA) signed with the Houston Astros after a short stint with the Chillicothe Paints of the Frontier League East Division.

According to a press release from the Paints, Cavanagh has already reported to the Lexington Legends, a Class-A farm affiliate of the Astros and a member of the South Atlantic League.

Cavanagh received a spot on the Frontier League East Division All-Star team this year by leading the league in strikeouts with 88 in 64.1 innings pitched to go along with an ERA of 2.24.

A 2004 graduate of the University of Redlands, Cavanagh served as one of the Bulldogs' top pitchers. As a senior, he threw 64 strikeouts in 79.1 innings to lead the team in both categories. During his junior season, he also provided a solid arm for Redlands, accumulating 64 strikeouts in 67 innings.

Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Jim Dixon on February 28, 2007, 05:33:56 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on February 28, 2007, 04:41:24 PM
Congratulations to Former Redlands Baseball Player Nick Cavanagh who recently just Signed with the Houston Astros.
Whats funny is that  former Cal Lu Baseball player Jason Hirsch will be nick's future teammate. 
Here's some more info on MLB prospect Nick Cavangh:
It was announced last week that former University of Redlands baseball player Nick Cavanagh (Big Bear Lake, CA) signed with the Houston Astros after a short stint with the Chillicothe Paints of the Frontier League East Division.

According to a press release from the Paints, Cavanagh has already reported to the Lexington Legends, a Class-A farm affiliate of the Astros and a member of the South Atlantic League.

Cavanagh received a spot on the Frontier League East Division All-Star team this year by leading the league in strikeouts with 88 in 64.1 innings pitched to go along with an ERA of 2.24.

A 2004 graduate of the University of Redlands, Cavanagh served as one of the Bulldogs' top pitchers. As a senior, he threw 64 strikeouts in 79.1 innings to lead the team in both categories. During his junior season, he also provided a solid arm for Redlands, accumulating 64 strikeouts in 67 innings.

Date of this release is: August 14, 2006
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: utilitycat17 on February 28, 2007, 06:27:23 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on February 28, 2007, 05:33:56 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on February 28, 2007, 04:41:24 PM
Congratulations to Former Redlands Baseball Player Nick Cavanagh who recently just Signed with the Houston Astros.
Whats funny is that  former Cal Lu Baseball player Jason Hirsch will be nick's future teammate. 

Jason Hirsch was traded to the Colorado Rockies for Jason Jennings.  There were others involved, of course.  Point is, Hirsch is gone.

Congrat to Nick Cavanagh though.  It is a very difficult thing to get signed out of Independent ball when you haven't previously been drafted.  Most guys that get picked up were once there to begin with.  We need more and more players like Nick and Jason to have success so that less D3 players are overlooked in the future.  Good luck to both of them in the future.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 28, 2007, 06:43:07 PM
Wow, i had no clue the the SCIAC site still posted old information. When i got on the site today for somebasketball info, the site format looked new and exciting. Of course, when i clicked on baseball, the News release about Mr. Cavanagh, was the first thing that it shows. What a rip off.

UT-Cat. Even though, Mr. Hirsh just got traded last night, Thanks for the update on Hirsh. 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: utilitycat17 on February 28, 2007, 07:13:47 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on February 28, 2007, 06:43:07 PM

UT-Cat. Even though, Mr. Hirsh just got traded last night, Thanks for the update on Hirsh. 

No problem, Browneagle.  However, he was traded back in December.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 02, 2007, 07:09:56 PM
So much baseball going on right now and a lot of schools nor does the sciac website point out the scores:
Mar. 2  La Verne     Claremont-M-S      9 inn. 2:30 pm   
 
   Occidental     Whittier      9 inn. 2:30 pm   
 
   Cal Lutheran     Caltech      9 inn. 2:30 pm   
 
   Redlands     Chapman      9 inn. 2:30 pm
AHHHHH, all i wanted to do this afternoon was to catch some baseball before Oxy's first round dance at the D3 basketball tourney...and in return i get nothing.
Keep us updated people.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: 2X All-American on March 02, 2007, 09:09:35 PM
Chapman 16 - Redlands 5
W - Drag (5-0)  L - Walker (3-1) 
HR - CU - Yacko (5) UR - Wetmore
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on March 02, 2007, 11:29:49 PM
Seems clear to me that Redlands may be getting better, but they are clearly NOT ready to play with the Chapman's of the world.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on March 03, 2007, 03:50:42 PM
BP      Chapman is definetly the favorite in the west but I dont think that you can pass judgment on UR on one game, despite the lopsided score.  Lets at least wait until 3-21-07 first.  You may be right though.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on March 04, 2007, 12:11:14 AM
Hmmmmm, that seems to me like somebody is a little bitter about getting spanked by his former school....although I could be wrong.

It seems to me like Chapman is the class of So Cal and everyone else is VERY far behind.  I also think the SCIAC is up for grabs, judging by the way the games have been turning out.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on March 05, 2007, 01:56:43 AM
WT

What I was saying is that one game does not a series make, despite the lopsided score.  There are so many factors that come into play that can change in the next game.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 05, 2007, 01:30:45 PM
Congratulation to the Leos for taking 2 of three away from the stags over the weekend. Even though the Men in green pin-stripes started off saturdays first D.H. game really bad, they sure made the last D.H. game really exciting, fun and thrilling. If they can keep this up i am sure they will be in the hunt for the SCIAC crown. Btw, the stags pitcher Vicente Lopez, did a great job during the first game on saturday, look for him to be a top pitcher this year in the SCIAC.

As for my tigers, well congratulations on at least getting a big W against Whitter on saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on March 06, 2007, 02:46:49 PM
Update SCIAC standing from the SCIAC website:

Redlands         3-0  9-3   
La Verne          5-1  6-7   
Cal Lutheran    4-2  9-6 
Pomona-Pitzer  2-1 8-4 
Claremont-M-S  3-3 6-7   
Whittier            3-3  6-10 
Occidental        4-5  9-6
Caltech             0-9  0-12
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on March 06, 2007, 04:25:44 PM
bp     Obviously I am a fan of UR but I would logically argue they have the inside track and are the favorite to win the SCIAC  again.  I base this on the fact that almost the entire team from last years championship team is returning.  Of course, that means nothing unless they perform.  I seriously doubt that Coach Laverty will let the dawgs rest on their laurels.  I expect CLU  and ULV to be the biggest challenges.  Good luck to all and hopefully the SCIAC representative will do well in the tourney.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on March 06, 2007, 04:43:54 PM
I am guessing that the SCIAC will only get one team in the NCAAs this year. The rise of the Texas teams should bump the second SCIAC team out of the picture.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: utilitycat17 on March 06, 2007, 11:12:09 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 06, 2007, 04:43:54 PM
I am guessing that the SCIAC will only get one team in the NCAAs this year. The rise of the Texas teams should bump the second SCIAC team out of the picture.

I don't recall there ever being more than one team from the SCIAC getting into the playoffs.  If any thing, the rise of the Texas schools ensures a 6 team regional in the West.  I think that helps a school like East Bay, who might be on the bubble for pool B but gets in because they need to fill the region and they are already out here.  I don't really think it changes the face of the SCIAC at all. 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on March 07, 2007, 03:22:50 PM
The SCIAc will never get 2 teams in a Regional, case closed.

I would not call it "a rise of the Texas schools" until one of them plays in the W.S.  One school going 2 and Q in the last 20 years does not fo it for me, although everyone will probably piss and moan that they used to be D-II or NAIA or D-I or blah blah blah.....geez, I need some more coffee.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 07, 2007, 05:57:50 PM
Wild thing is right about the "Texas schools".  We aren't rocking D3; we are just clammin' up the middle of the West Region.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Just_Some_Guy on March 07, 2007, 08:22:34 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 07, 2007, 05:57:50 PM
Wild thing is right about the "Texas schools".  We aren't rocking D3; we are just clammin' up the middle of the West Region.

I agree with these sentiments.  I don't know that any of the Texas teams other than Trinity or TLU could've given Chapman a run the past two/three years. I do know that the level of play in the ASC tournament the last two years was more competitive than the level of play that the Redlands showed last year, and La Verne did the year before.  Perhaps I'm biased being able to watch the Texas schools more often, but that's just the way I feel. It makes for a long grueling season when 7 of the ASC teams + Trinity all beat up on one another and any one of those teams would be in the mix for the SCIAC title every year.  Does it make you battle tested and ready for the playoffs or are you worn out? Maybe what teams are isn't what they should be, I don't know.  I'm just speculating for the sake of discussion.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on March 07, 2007, 10:58:47 PM
Bias isn't a bad thing unless it keeps you from being objective ;)
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 07, 2007, 11:24:56 PM
Quote from: Just_Some_Guy on March 07, 2007, 08:22:34 PM
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  Does it make you battle tested and ready for the playoffs or are you worn out? Maybe what teams are isn't what they should be, I don't know.  I'm just speculating for the sake of discussion.
I think that an ASC team gets thru the tourney and is so exhilarated by the victory that they get ready for the real second season.

I really like the new format for the ASC.  I thought that the delay between the Tourney conclusion to the NCAA Regionals (2 1/2 weeks instead of the current 1 1/2 weeks) was much too long.  You lost your edge.  The northern teams finish their tourneys on the weekend of Selection Sunday.

I think that the vulnerability that we have in the ASC is 4th and 5th starters.  (Too rich, too blonde or too much pitching...what you can't have too much of!  :D )
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: RFB on March 09, 2007, 12:45:02 PM
Redlands swept a doubleheader against Indiana Wesleyan (6-0, 12-5) and beat Dominican University (IL) 14-3. Not sure how strong each program is but good to see the Dawgs holding it down at the Yard.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on March 09, 2007, 12:56:35 PM
Just Some Guy has them ranked 6th in the west.  If they win the SCIAC,  they just might sneak up on someone in the tourney.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on March 09, 2007, 01:55:01 PM
Quote from: snoop dawg on March 09, 2007, 12:56:35 PM
Just Some Guy has them ranked 6th in the west.  If they win the SCIAC,  they just might sneak up on someone in the tourney.

They will win the SCIAC. They is not much opposition to them right now... like Sherman rolling through the south.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 09, 2007, 03:35:10 PM
Great job by the dawgs on picking up two wins over the week.

However, i must admit that the teams that they played were really not good teams. Yet, a win is a win.

And just F.Y.I, i honestly also think that for right now, the dawgs really will not face big challenges until midday through the season, when teams like Pomona start to do better, the stags start to sneak up and the Leo's start to roll. Of course you can't forget about Oxy.

Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on March 09, 2007, 03:39:56 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on March 09, 2007, 03:35:10 PM

Of course you can't forget about Oxy.


I respect your un-dying love of Oxy, but at some point a man has to face reality.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 09, 2007, 03:50:21 PM
B.P.
That's like telling a Cub's and a raiders fan to stop buying season tickets.
Or whenever a random person on the street tells me to put my lakers flags away.

I understand your concern, but a true fan sticks with his team through all the good and the bad things. That's the reality. I own up to how my team is doing and still have faith in them.



Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on March 09, 2007, 09:21:02 PM
I know many an ex cubs fan that now root for the Chisox! ;)  Of course you can always become a typical So cal fan an cheer for the front runner!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 10, 2007, 02:21:53 PM
Congratulations to the tigers for their recent big wins. Like i mentioned before for other SCIAC teams, a win is a win.
And of course, just to let you know, i'm no typical So.Cal fan who jumps on any bandwagon like some of the good ol folk of the midwest (e.g. ex-cub fans rooting for the Chisox........) Thats like saying that i should start to root for the Angels instead of my Dodegrs. Or the clippers instead of the Lakers. Give me a break. SO.Cal also has legit fans who stick with their teams.

Here's there recent schedule of wins:
La Sierra (Rain Make Up) (2) W 15-0 ,W 12-0
Dominican College (NY) 2:00pm W 12-2
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on March 10, 2007, 05:00:23 PM
BE       No your not, and you are one of the most loyal Oxy fans on this board.  I wish UR had more fans like you.  However, your loyalty might be tested this baseball season.  l am sure you will survive.  Good luck to the Tigers this season    I hope thy finish in second place! ;)
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on March 11, 2007, 11:30:47 PM
Good article on the front page about Cal Lu and the new stadium.  It really is a beautiful place to watch a game.  Hope all of the teams coming from the East Coast enjoy it.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: utilitycat17 on March 12, 2007, 12:12:51 AM
Does anyone know where I could find some decent pictures of Cal Lu's new ball park?  I went to their website and couldn't find any.  You'd think they would be front and center.  I may have just missed them though.  Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 12, 2007, 03:10:19 PM
Congrats to the dawgs on pulling off a win against the stags.

For a second I thought that the stags where going to surprise the dawgs with a victory on friday, but was yet again mistaken on the power that the dawgs are currently growing with.

Seems like my surprise team of 07 is still in the hunt to be the dream spoiler. I hope when they meet the dawgs again, the stags will be able to pull one away from them.

heres what CMS did over the weekend.
And yes, my tigers almost beat them on sunday but gave up some very costly runs.

FRI Mar. 9 REDLANDS 13-15 7-8
SAT Mar. 10 CAL STATE EAST BAY 5-8 7-9
SUN Mar. 11 DOMINICAN UNIVERSITY 9-0 8-9
  Mar. 11 OCCIDENTAL 14-9
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 12, 2007, 03:18:58 PM
btw,

even though the kingmens got a sweep over the beavers this weekend, i was in shock and surprised to hear all over east Pasadena how the beavers got jumped on 31-1 on fridays game. I am not sure what Cal Lu's coaching staff had in mind when the score passed 15-o, but this is just horrible and uncalled for. I do give my hats off to the beavers for still playing, but to run the score like that for one day is just aweful.
 
Saturday, Mar 3, 2007  Caltech -SCIAC  Home  11:00 AM W 19-0 
Saturday, Mar 3, 2007  Caltech -SCIAC  Home  2:00 PM W 11-0 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: utilitycat17 on March 12, 2007, 03:40:57 PM
Caltech Beavers        IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF
-----------------------------------------------
Comstock, M.........  5.2 25 29 27  3  1 43 58

Rough day at the ballpark for Comstock.

Caltech                IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF
-----------------------------------------------
Surduk, S...........  4.0 12 16  0  2  2 29 32

It's amazing what a few errors will do for your ERA.

I just thought I'd share those lines.  I've never quite seen anything like that before.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 12, 2007, 04:10:03 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on March 12, 2007, 03:18:58 PM
even though the kingmens got a sweep over the beavers this weekend, i was in shock and surprised to hear all over east Pasadena how the beavers got jumped on 31-1 on fridays game. I am not sure what Cal Lu's coaching staff had in mind when the score passed 15-o, but this is just horrible and uncalled for. I do give my hats off to the beavers for still playing, but to run the score like that for one day is just aweful.

The largest margin a team has come back from was 18 runs so I would score at least 19.

All stolen bases were in innings 1 or 2.  so it was not like Cal Lu was really trying hard to score more.   I would be critical if they continued to run. 

Some days it is not just your day  - and it happens to good teams - just not as often.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on March 12, 2007, 05:09:34 PM
In most sports, the problem a coach faces when he substitutes is, does he let his second and third team guys play or does he for example, like in football, just grind it out and run the ball or in basketball play a passive zone defense.  In baseball, you dont steal and you basically run from base to base and dont take the extra base even if you can.

Is it fair?  If you are the second string guy, dont you deserve the chance to play and show the coach what you can do?  It is a fine line for a coach to be fair to his players and not embarass the other team.  It looks to me like the CLU coach did a fine job of it.

After all you can't tell your players to try to not hit the ball, you cant stop the other team from making errors or walking batters.  Just my humble opinion.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 12, 2007, 05:48:10 PM
Snoop----

Those are good points that you bring up. You are right about having your 2nd and 3rd string guys in, but we all know how cal tech plays ball.

In my opinion if i were the coach i would have my starters and 2nds play game one on friday. then I would have Came out for the D.H. with my first string only playing for 4 innings on saturday and then let the rest of the guys play for reminding innings and the next game. In addition, I would have let me starters get a rest and had my other kids play. Maybe that would have cut the score to 20.
I understand that Cal Lu used whatever opportunity they could get from fridays game, but running the score on a low ranked team is not going to improve your game much better. Especially if you are playing against a team like the beavs.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: TeeDub on March 12, 2007, 07:29:46 PM
Quote from: snoop dawg on March 12, 2007, 05:09:34 PM
In most sports, the problem a coach faces when he substitutes is, does he let his second and third team guys play or does he for example, like in football, just grind it out and run the ball or in basketball play a passive zone defense.  In baseball, you dont steal and you basically run from base to base and dont take the extra base even if you can.

Is it fair?  If you are the second string guy, dont you deserve the chance to play and show the coach what you can do?  It is a fine line for a coach to be fair to his players and not embarass the other team.  It looks to me like the CLU coach did a fine job of it.

After all you can't tell your players to try to not hit the ball, you cant stop the other team from making errors or walking batters.  Just my humble opinion.


This is interesting discussion.  The college basketball world faced a similar discussion this year when Lincoln (PA) played against lowly Ohio State - Marion and won the game 201-78.  Was it running up or not?  Many argued that it was.  Just as this discussion alludes to regarding the CLU vs. CIT game.

I'm sure if you were to poll the coaches and players...they would rather NOT play these games...even the guys on the bench.  They are actually stat killers, rather than stat builders.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 12, 2007, 07:58:12 PM
I think it would be harder in baseball to take out your regulars since if you find yourself in trouble, you cannot replace your players.  If I was Lincoln I would not see my starting team in the second half  as long as the game was well inhand.

With as short as the season is you cannot let all your regulars rest since every game is important.  You also cannot let a game get away either since this game was a conference game.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on March 12, 2007, 09:11:13 PM
The inability to replace a starter does indeed make a difference in baseball, but if you have a 20 run lead, c'mon, play everyone in uniform.  If you get in trouble, bring a a closer to finish the game. 

I don't think CLU  tried to run it up, it's just the Beavers are that bad, sorry Beaver fans no malice intended. 

The main thing in this kind of game is to be respectful and always remember, you could be on the other end of the blowout some day.  Good sportsmanship is an absolute must under those circumstances.

A good example of letting the bench play was this year in football UR vs PP.  UR's third string was in the game and on third down they threw a pass that went for a TD.  I know there was discussion on the football board about this but, I can't think of a better example of what I posted earlier about, at least to some degree, letting the second and third string guys, play.  As the CLU coach, you can't tell your subs to not try hard at the plate, or to drop balls etc. 

Sometimes one team, no matter who they play, is just that much better than the other.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on March 12, 2007, 11:18:28 PM
Quote from: snoop dawg on March 12, 2007, 09:11:13 PM
A good example of letting the bench play was this year in football UR vs PP.  UR's third string was in the game and on third down they threw a pass that went for a TD.  I know there was discussion on the football board about this but, I can't think of a better example of what I posted earlier about, at least to some degree, letting the second and third string guys, play. 
That pass was not done in malice by the player or the coaching staff.  He was just doing as he was taught.  When you don't play much, you don't want to hold back.  I guess that is the purpose of this discussion.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on March 13, 2007, 12:14:39 AM
GF  Exactly my point.  The second and third string guys practice just as hard if not harder than the starters because they usually practice against the starters.  When they finally get in a game, they deserve a chance to actually play.  That doesn't mean you  have to run up the score on a lowly opponent, just let the kids play and have, FUN!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on March 13, 2007, 11:21:29 AM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on March 12, 2007, 03:18:58 PM
btw,

even though the kingmens got a sweep over the beavers this weekend, i was in shock and surprised to hear all over east Pasadena how the beavers got jumped on 31-1 on fridays game. I am not sure what Cal Lu's coaching staff had in mind when the score passed 15-o, but this is just horrible and uncalled for. I do give my hats off to the beavers for still playing, but to run the score like that for one day is just aweful.
 



Were they supposed to put their subs in and tell them not to try too hard?! That would be more insulting to the team that lost.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on March 13, 2007, 11:54:57 AM
OB

My point is that when subs come into the game they deserve the chance to play, not just go through the motions, that is unfair to them. 

You obvioulsy have your opinions about the UR -PP game.  I see it differently, thats what makes America great, we can have different opinions.  But let me ask you this, you are the second or third string guy in any sport and you obviously want to be a starter, you finally get in a game, are you not going to try your best?In the UR-PP game you come in on third and tweleve, if that's what it was, and see a guy open down field wide open, are you saying the qb should'nt throw the ball to him? If there is blame to be had, blame the coach that called a pass play, not the kids that execute it. 

As Big Poppa said, I think that would be more of an insult to the losing team to not throw to the wide open guy, to not try to hit the ball in your at bat, or any other circumstance you can think of, than to try your best.



Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on March 13, 2007, 12:58:43 PM
My personal opinion is that if getting beat by a huge margins upsets you then you need to get better. Early in the season, teams are working on things for the season and deserve the chance to see if their players can do the job... regardless of the score. If Cal Tech is going to complain (which it appears they didn't) they should leave the SCIAC and find another conference to play in. If, on the other hand,  the fans are going to complain about the scores, then the comments should be taken with a grain of salt.

For the most part, fans watch (and complain) because they cannot play. If you wish to have an influence on the game you have two options: 1) earn a spot on the team and do your best to stop them from scoreing 31 runs, or 2) get a job as a coach and do your best to stop them from scoring 31 runs.

Sorry... just an opinion from a former college coach who both ran up scores and had it run up on me... neither of which phased me one bit.

Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on March 13, 2007, 02:01:01 PM
BP
Again I agree with you.

OB
I hear what you are saying and don't necessarily disagree with you.  The play was called to get a first down.  Three or four receivers go out on patterns.  One will go deep, others run various routes.  I seriously doubt the play was called to , "throw the bomb", but to get the first down.  The deep guy happened to be open, the third string qb completed a pass to the second string receiver and they got lucky.  Oh well, that's football.  Just like the CLU  subs kept getting their bats on the ball but the Beavers simply could not field it.  Oh well, tha's baseball.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on March 13, 2007, 02:27:58 PM
Interesting conversation going on here.  I leave for one day and I come back to 15 new posts :o I like it 8)

Here are some of my thoughts.....
Cal Tech has always been crushed by all of the teams in the SCIAC.  In their 9 conference games they have been outscored 171-11 so CLU putting up 31 is not something we should freak out about, besides, Redlands scored 30 and Snoop, you are not making a big deal out of that ???
I did some research on the 3 series that the Beavs have played.  Here are some of the things I found pretty interesting.
1. Total SB's in the 3 game series.  Redlands 24 CLU 11, OXY had 1 (no box for games 2 and 3
2. None of the SB's by CLU were after the 1st or 2nd inning.
In game 2 of the Redlands series, Muller stole 2nd in the 4th inning
In game 3, Redlands had 3 SB's in the 5th inning while leading 8-0
In game 3, Goldstein leads off the 6th with a double and steals 3rd right away up 10-0
OXY had its one SB in game 1 in the first inning (leadoff man)

Snoop- Obviously you didnt look at things hard enough and obviously you are pretty familiar with the Redlands team since you decided to "forget" to mention some of these things I have pointed out.  Cal Tech will continue to get crushed by everyone in the SCIAC.  I am sure they are very nice kids, but enough is enough, there is no place for them in the SCIAC.

As far as the backups are concerned, it does not matter if it is the 5th string guy on Cal Lu, Redlands or OXY, they are all going to be better than the Cal Tech kids.  Again, I see no reason the SCIAC teams should have to waste 3 games to play them.  Just my opinion!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on March 13, 2007, 02:39:35 PM
wt

I dont get it.  I am saying that CLU, DID NOTHING WRONG!  Even a cursory reading of my posts should indicate that I am sticking up for them. 

The bottom line is that the Beavers are just bad and they will continue to get blown out.  I feel sorry for them and admire the love for the game they must have to continually take such NON-MALICIOUS beatings.  Good Luck to the Beavers, I hope they beat someone soon.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on March 13, 2007, 02:44:58 PM
My bad Snoop.  I was thinking it was you who had mentioned the whole thing in the first place.  I retract my statement and not throw it all at BrownEagle. ;)
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on March 13, 2007, 03:07:50 PM
WT

No problem.  Lets hope the Beavers beat Oxy, that would relly depress BE!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: utilitycat17 on March 13, 2007, 03:58:52 PM
I'm a little bit surprised everyone is making such a big deal about Cal Lu beating Cal Tech so bad.  It's not like this was a non-conference game that Cal Lu was using to pad their schedule with. I guarantee that if you asked anyone associated with Cal Lu they prefer the years when they don't have to play Cal Tech.  I'm more surprised that there wasn't a bigger deal made about Millsaps beating Tougaloo College 32-0 and 16-0.  This was a non-conference double header against a team with a 15 man roster that won one game from 2002-2005.  You can't tell me they couldn't find someone better to play against.  Cal Lu has no choice in the matter.  They have to play those games. 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on March 13, 2007, 05:00:35 PM
The only one that made a stink was Browneagle, the rest of us didnt think CLU  was wrong.  You make a good point in that CLU didn't have a choice but to play the Beavers.  It's not like they went looking for a patsy to bulid stats or wins.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: frank_ezelle on March 13, 2007, 05:58:42 PM
Quote from: utilitycat17 on March 13, 2007, 03:58:52 PM
I'm a little bit surprised everyone is making such a big deal about Cal Lu beating Cal Tech so bad.  It's not like this was a non-conference game that Cal Lu was using to pad their schedule with. I guarantee that if you asked anyone associated with Cal Lu they prefer the years when they don't have to play Cal Tech.  I'm more surprised that there wasn't a bigger deal made about Millsaps beating Tougaloo College 32-0 and 16-0.  This was a non-conference double header against a team with a 15 man roster that won one game from 2002-2005.  You can't tell me they couldn't find someone better to play against.  Cal Lu has no choice in the matter.  They have to play those games. 

I had started to add a post on this thread earlier in the day because I did sit through most of those Tougaloo games. There are pros and cons on why either team would schedule these types of games and the winning coach often finds himself in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

On the games being scheduled in the first place, I can only guess based on what I know from the past.  It gave Tougaloo two away games in town which is a good thing for a school on a limited athletic budget.  It gave Millsaps a chance to play a lot of players who haven't played much or at all this season.  Both teams gained something from the game even though the game was a mismatch.  I don't think anyone thought the game would be this much of a mismatch when the game was scheduled.

Unfortunately, Tougaloo doesn't have much pitching and they couldn't get anyone out in the first game, plus they added to the problem with 8 walks and 9 hit batters.  Millsaps did start off with their starting lineup but that makes sense.  It would be insulting to the other team to bench all the starters at the beginning of an official game, the starters didn't need to sit out the entire weekend in the middle of the season, and no one knew at the beginning that the games would get this lopsided.  The coach was holding up runners on the bases instead of running aggresively and they weren't coming in from third on pass balls, etc, but there are limits to what you can do to hold down a score in baseball.

The bottom line is that I think both coaches assumed that Millsaps would win these games when the games were scheduled but Tougaloo was glad to get the extra games at no cost and Millsaps was glad to have games where everyone got to play.  The games didn't do a thing to help Millsaps improve as a team but the games did serve a purpose.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 14, 2007, 04:37:32 PM
Congratulations to the tigers on snapping their recent 4 game losing streak. ;D

After getting pounded on by the hens and stags on sunday 15-2 and 14-9,
it's good to hear that the tigers bounced back and took one away from Ithaca College, 9-4, yesterday. Heres to hoping they keep the W's coming.

btw, Snoops, The beavs will not beat Oxy this year. They already played and oxy took the series single handed.  ;D 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 14, 2007, 05:59:33 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on March 14, 2007, 04:37:32 PM
Congratulations to the tigers on snapping their recent 4 game losing streak. ;D

Elliott Strankman must be some coach
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 14, 2007, 06:48:57 PM
He sure is Mr. Dixon.

I am sure that he tells his players that no matter what happens; their is still another day of baseball. In fact, i am confident that he's teaching his young tigers to not give up and to face the challenges. It's all good.

I am sure current Cub coach Lou Piniella and even former coach Dusty Baker did the same thing day in and day out around their cub players.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on March 14, 2007, 08:00:55 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on March 14, 2007, 06:54:25 PM
Browneagle64:

>>The beavs will not beat Oxy this year. They already played and oxy took the series single handed<<

C'mon, BE, that's not saying much, considering Caltech is 2-13, its two wins coming against Dodgertown West (a member of the Mens Senior Baseball League, and whose players must be 30 or older and have attended the Dodgers Adult Baseball Camp) and a Caltech alumni team. In 12 games against real competition, Caltech is 0-12 and has been outscored 205-25.

OxyBob
A CIT win will get even more press than their basketball victory over Bard.

Right now, they have a much better chance to put a person in orbit than a baseball.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 14, 2007, 08:15:43 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on March 14, 2007, 06:48:57 PM
He sure is Mr. Dixon.

I'll think about a feature on him in the off season if he keeps his summer gig.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 14, 2007, 08:36:37 PM
I think that coverage of the Dodgertown West games and the CalTech alumni game would be great feature stories.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on March 14, 2007, 09:47:46 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 14, 2007, 08:36:37 PM
I think that coverage of the Dodgertown West games and the CalTech alumni game would be great feature stories.
Great idea Ralph.  Just don't have the CIT people write it. ;)
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on March 14, 2007, 10:58:46 PM
OB     Man that is funny stuff.  My eyes are watering I was laughing so hard.  BE64 who the heck is "Luo" Pinella? ;)  Did he really coach the Cubs?   Did Dusty Baker coach the Cubs?    I admire your loyalty in the face of such great adversity! ;)

Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 15, 2007, 11:15:56 AM
Haha, Once again Bob comes through with some insightful knowledge and funny stories.

Thanks for bringing up how the Beavs played against Dodgertown west..... It's just funny to read the game summary and your comment on how the team did against them.
btw,, you forgot to mention the greatest short stop of CIT history, #E=mc2 Mr. A. Einstein.
;D

Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on March 15, 2007, 03:49:10 PM
Eddie was famous for a hot one hopper that hit the opposing teams ss in the eye, as the opposing player grimaced in pain while lying on the infield dirt, a loyal Dodger fan yelled," that's Pye in your eye!" 

Please excuse my poor attempt at joining in on the humor. :-\
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 15, 2007, 05:17:46 PM
With the C.A. Tourney and invitational
going on, I hope that all of you guys are enjoying great SCIAC baseball. Whether it be at Cal Lu's new field or at the hens field, I am just glad that there is plenty of baseball going on.

Anyways, i am making a strong predication that Oxy will take one game away from the Kingmens this weekend. In fact, after oxy takes this game away from the Kingsmen I can assure you that this will help them step up their game. I understand that this statement might be crazy, but hey you should see my basketball brackets and see how many wild guesses i have made and how they come out true.

Look for the tigers to do well during these next games. 

Thurs / 15th Principia College (IL) Home 1:00pm 7, 7
Sat / 17th Bethany College (CA)  Home 11:00am(2) 9,9
Fri / 30th *Cal Lutheran  Home 3:00pm 9
Sat / 31st *Cal Lutheran  (#1)  Away 11:00am(2) 9,9
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: RFB on March 15, 2007, 07:42:47 PM
Redlands blasted Rutgers-Newark 28-10 at the Yard. Redlands has a big weekend of baseball coming up. Good luck to the Dawgs.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on March 16, 2007, 12:06:37 AM
The dawgs are sure putting up some runs.  Great for the team and the starting pitchers!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on March 16, 2007, 11:50:44 AM
Quote from: RFB on March 15, 2007, 07:42:47 PM
Redlands blasted Rutgers-Newark 28-10 at the Yard. Redlands has a big weekend of baseball coming up. Good luck to the Dawgs.

They say that the double-play is the pitcher's best friend, but I tend to believe that scoring 28 runs is the puitcher's best friend... or at least a pitcher's mistress!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: RFB on March 16, 2007, 02:44:36 PM
Fri., March 16 Menlo College REDLANDS 2 p.m.

Sat., March 17 Eastern Connecticut State Univ. REDLANDS 9 a.m.

Sat., March 17 UMass Dartmouth REDLANDS 2 p.m.
 
Sun., March 18 Wesleyan University (CT) REDLANDS 12 n

Redlands weekend baseball schedule
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 16, 2007, 02:50:36 PM
If the double play is a killer, a triple play certainly stops a rally cold.  As far as I know there are at least two TPs turned this year.  One against Averett and one against Alvernia (game ending triple killing for the College of New Jersey)
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 16, 2007, 03:28:10 PM
First of all, Congratulations to the Dawgs on their huge win against Rutgers-Newark. Sounds like the dawgs are returning back to SCIAC champ form.
Aside from that, it looks like the dawgs have a long weekend and should be able to win at least three game before losing one. With this summer like heat hitting SO.Cal, i am sure the dawgs will do just fine but will drop one game. Its all good though.

Oh btw, I am sure you guys all ready heard about the upset that my tigers pulled off yesterday, if not heres the story:

Yup, its that time in March were anything happens and i am calling crazy predictions.. So Look out Cal Lu, because I can assure you that the tigers are not backing down from a big fight tonight( wait ... thats afternoon for us in the westcoast.

Oxy Stuns #16th Ranked Ithica
In one of the more outstanding performances by Occidentals young team, the Tigers scored 9 runs on 12 hits in the 9-4 victory. Matt jones went 7 strong innings and Oxy now stands at 11-9.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Just_Some_Guy on March 16, 2007, 07:15:05 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on March 16, 2007, 02:50:36 PM
If the double play is a killer, a triple play certainly stops a rally cold.  As far as I know there are at least two TPs turned this year.  One against Averett and one against Alvernia (game ending triple killing for the College of New Jersey)

Hardin-Simmons turned one with runners on 1st and 2nd against Texas Lutheran in the top of the 9th last weekend.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on March 16, 2007, 09:25:02 PM
A triple play is like a triple bogey.....a killer! :-\
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Bob Maxwell on March 17, 2007, 01:44:06 PM
ESPECIALLY to end a game...

What a way to end a game!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on March 18, 2007, 10:23:53 AM
Can't remember how many runs we scored, but when playing at Pomona, we set a D3 (or maybe NCAA) record for most runs by a losing team in a loss to Redlands.  We scored over 20, I think - started with batting around and scoring double digits in the top of the 1st, but somehow managed to lose it all...
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: RFB on March 18, 2007, 10:03:39 PM
Fri., March 16 Menlo College REDLANDS W 12-2

Sat., March 17 Eastern Connecticut State Univ. REDLANDS W 9-8

Sat., March 17 UMass Dartmouth REDLANDS W 12-5

Sun., March 18 Wesleyan University (CT) REDLANDS W 17-7


Redlands swept all four games this weekend setting up next weeks big game with Chapman. Way to go Redlands.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on March 18, 2007, 10:56:22 PM
Interesting doubleheader scores  at Oxy on the 15th.

Oxy beat Principia 13-1 in the first game.  In the second game Principia won 1-0 with their only hit, a RBI single, in the top of the eighth (last) inning.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on March 18, 2007, 10:57:50 PM
Way to go dawgs!  The game with Chapman will tell if they can compete with the elite or not.  I hope they ptich their number one, they will probably see Drag.  Godd luck to the Dawgs.  
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: 2X All-American on March 19, 2007, 12:55:22 PM
Am I not mistaken, or did Drag already throw against Redlands and their #1 Walker this season? As I recall it wasn't much of a game with Chapman pounding Redlands 16-5... I dont see why it would be necessary for Chapman to throw Drag again seeing as Redlands could win the Sciac and potentially see Drag in the Regionals. I dont think Chapman will throw Drag again this Wed. ar UR after he threw 15 innings last week from Sat-Sat.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on March 19, 2007, 09:34:37 PM
Drag and Walker both pitched.  You are right, I doubt Drag will pitch again because of regional.  Teams are measured by more than which teams  #1 is the best.  In an earlier post I said that the game on the 21st would say alot about UR. With other pitchers going on the 21st I think it will give UR a better indication of what distance lies between the two teams than if Drag was pitching.  Remember, in a three game series Drag would pitch only once.   Just my opinion. 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: HALLEBASEBALL on March 21, 2007, 05:01:15 PM
With rain out today they will get Drag again.  Redlands could had played at Chapman as the field was available but elected to keep the home game.  With that comes Drag.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 21, 2007, 06:29:30 PM
I'm not sure how Rain will affect a pitcher HALLEBASEBALL, but O.k.

Although the Dawgs have been on an good win streak, i expect them to play the panthers close this time around. However, I have a feeling that they will end up coughing this one up.

Good luck to the Dawgs and i hope to hear that this was a good game between a really good team.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: utilitycat17 on March 21, 2007, 07:09:51 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on March 21, 2007, 06:29:30 PM
I'm not sure how Rain will affect a pitcher HALLEBASEBALL, but O.k.


Where have you been?  Since when did days of rest not matter to a starting pitcher?  If the guy wasn't ready today there is a very good chance he will be ready by the time they make the game up. 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 21, 2007, 07:48:58 PM
Wait, I forgot to mention that i was trying to Imply So. CAl rain.
The light stuff that comes through and then everyone around here (L.A. that is ) starts to feel like its a down pour. Can't believe that they called off the game due to this light stuff over the So.Cal Sky..

Sorry for being so late on that.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: MakemK on March 21, 2007, 08:42:59 PM
Do you know how much it rained in Redlands last night or the night before? Do you know how well their field drains?  I dont think its fair to sit here and say that you can't believe that they called the game.   And would you want to give up a home game.  I certainly wouldnt.  Its great to play infront of your home fans.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on March 26, 2007, 08:39:59 AM
Looks like it was a pretty exciting weekend in the SCIAC with a lot of vry close games.  Hats off to La Verne for taking 2 of 3 from Redlands.

BrownEagle- The time has finally come for your Tigers to get their shot at Cal Lu.  Can they show up and take a game?  I guess we will see this weekend.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on March 26, 2007, 06:56:38 PM
Looks like ULV  did a number on the dawg pitchers this weekend. :(
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 27, 2007, 11:24:41 AM
Congrats to the Leos for pulling off big W's this weekend. sounds like the dawgs were a bit tired. Maybe it was the rain ;). Anyways, i am sure the dawgs will regain power in a matter of days, so look for them to come back stronger. As for the leo's, i am sure that from here on out they will remember this as the two games that should inspire them to reach for the SCIAC crown. If they don't take advantage of this situation, then i can assure you that their young talent wouldn't mean anything. So expect them to compete against the likes of a up and coming Cal lu and pomona team.

By the way, yes my tigers play the kingmens this friday and saturday, so look for them to take both games away from the kingsmen. With one week off, i am sure they are ready to get some baseball in.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: RFB on March 28, 2007, 03:11:43 PM
Chapman beat Redlands 8-6 (10)
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on March 28, 2007, 03:13:55 PM
Redlands has certainly hit a bit of a funk right now. Hopefully they can straighten it out and get back on track.

LaVerne may be the new "team to beat" in the SCIAC.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 28, 2007, 03:36:45 PM
Sorry to hear that the dawgs lost yet another game. I am sure that they will bounce right out of the funk.

As for the Leo's, just as i had expected at the start of the season, i am sure the Leos will be looking for anyway possible to stay on top of the pack throughout the next three games.
Of course the Tigers will be clawing their ways up there after the take two away from the kingsmen this week.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on March 28, 2007, 11:07:11 PM
Looks like the 'Hens make an appearance in the Top 30 at #27...team is 17-7 and right in the thick of the SCIAC race, despite losing a game to Whittier last weekend.  Couple of big weekends coming up to determine who takes control of the SCIAC race.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on March 29, 2007, 12:02:30 AM
pomonalum........you hit the nail on the perverbial head! Loks like a dawg fight from here on in. :D
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on March 29, 2007, 10:45:18 PM
Having already taken 2 of 3 from Cal Lu, the 'Hens have their own destiny in their hands.  2 big series against LaVerne and Redlands in the next two weeks.  Take 2 of 3 in each of those series and they're in pretty good shape, with the back half of the schedule being a little easier.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on April 01, 2007, 08:21:04 PM
OB,
Any info on the new football coach?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 02, 2007, 01:10:10 PM
Congrats to the tigers on another big win this weekend. ;D
Just as i expect, the tigers did a fine job against a good ball club,yet still need to improve a bit more. After seeing the lead drop in friday's game, i still hope that the tiger pitching staff can hang in the game a little longer. However, the bats are ringing and scoring is being produced, so good job to the tigers in that part.

btw, since i didn't have time to write-up an eye witness report (ala Oxy Bob) because i had to attend the freeway series between the dodgers & angels, heres a recap of what the tigers did this weekend....Additionally, heres the standing for the sciac thus far as well:
Occidental took two of three games from nine-time SCIAC champion Cal Lutheran March 30-31, another step forward in the continuing improvement of the Tiger baseball program.  Cal Lutheran entered the weekend series with a 44-2 all-time record against Occidental but has now lost three of the last six meetings. 

The Tigers finished the weekend with a 14-13 overall record, 6-6 in SCIAC play.  Cal Lutheran (16-9, 8-4 SCIAC) fell to third place in the SCIAC standings, one game behind La Verne and two behind Redlands. 

Occidental came from behind in both victories, scoring five runs over the final six innings en route to a 6-3 victory in game one on Saturday.   Jayson Williams '07 allowed eight hits in eight innings and picked up his first win of the season, holding Cal Lutheran to just four hits over the last five.   Phillip Kafka '09, a transfer from UMass-Amherst, retired the Kingsmen in the ninth inning and collected his first Occidental save.

A pair of Cal Lutheran errors set the table for a three-run Occidental rally in the eighth inning.  Spencer Woolwine '09 delivered his second key hit of the series, a bases-loaded double that gave Oxy a 5-3 advantage.   Adam Franks '08 singled to lead off the ninth and scored an insurance run on an RBI base hit by Patrick Sarkissian '10.

Franks and Glenn Gray '10 recorded three hits apiece.  Matt Andersen '08 went 2 for 3 with a double and a run scored.

On Friday at Anderson Field, Occidental held a five-run lead heading into the sixth inning but needed a three-run rally in the bottom of the eighth to pull out the 8-6 win.   The Tigers plated the tying run after a bases-loaded bobble at shortstop. Kingsmen closer Peter Birdwell plunked Woolwine and Franks walked to score the Tigers' final run.

Woolwine started a four-run rally in the fourth inning with a line drive home run down the right field line.  Gray singled to drive in two more and later scored on a base hit by Sarkissian.  Kafka shut out the Kingsmen over the final 2 2/3, recording his second win of the season. 

The Tigers left ten runners on base in the series finale, a 5-2 Cal Lutheran win.  Noel Banuelos '09 worked seven solid innings, allowing five runs on ten hits, and Marcus Stoiber '09 pitched a scoreless eighth.  Geoff Ball '10 recorded two of the Tigers' seven hits and scored an unearned run in the first inning.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 02, 2007, 01:17:36 PM
 W L PCT.
La Verne 9 3 .750
Redlands 5 2 .714
Cal Lutheran 8 4 .667
Pomona-Pitzer 5 4 .556
Whittier 6 5 .545
Occidental 6 6 .500
Claremont-M-S 3 7 .300
Caltech 0 11 .000
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 04, 2007, 01:44:17 PM
It looks like my surprise team pick of 07 is no longer a big surprise. I guess last months match with current SCIAC leader, La Verne, really got to them.
Here's there recent score:
  Apr. 3  LaGrange   11   Claremont-M-S   10 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on April 05, 2007, 11:07:33 AM
Eagle-  I really didnt follow that last post very well.  I would assume the surprise team is OXY but they really are not too far from the cellar.  I was in shock to see they took 2 of 3 from CLU but thats the best part of baseball, anyone can win on any given day.  I didnt see any of the games but the box scores show a lot of errors and some late inning meltdowns by CLU. 
The SCIAC is shaping up to be a battle till the end.  Who is going to step it up and take the crown?  I really don't see any favorite right now because everyone keeps beating up on each other.  Good luck to all this weekend.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 05, 2007, 12:16:53 PM
WT

What I was trying to say is that it looks like CMS's team is on a big slump. They were projected to be in the top of the SCIAC this season, but, it looks like that will not happen. Eventhough, the stags started the season on a high note, after several games in which they played well and just blew it apparently did several things to them. One thing for sure is that the stags probabily lost some confidence. THat's all i was trying to say.
As for my surprise team, of course it would be oxy. I mean just look at their current record: they do well against a solid cal lu ball club and then come back out to the field 3 days later and stink it up against S.D. christian college 15-4, whom by the way, the tigers beat 5-4 2 months ago. Care for another surprise from my team??   
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 06, 2007, 10:40:46 AM
With the arrival of a struggling Whitworth team to the Rock today, I expect the men in orange and black to draw big wins. Eventhough the pirates come from a decent league, the team appears to not be doing as good as it used to be in the past. As a result, the tigers will do their best to catch this dazed and confused team off guard and pull out a win.

Btw, La Vernes going to have a tough time trying to pull off a big win against the panthers this weekend, but i do hope that they do win at least one game.
THursdays Leo v.s panther game.  L, 2-8/L, 4-8
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: dgilblair on April 06, 2007, 09:20:49 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 28, 2007, 03:13:55 PM
Redlands has certainly hit a bit of a funk right now. Hopefully they can straighten it out and get back on track.

LaVerne may be the new "team to beat" in the SCIAC.

Redlands
3-5 their last eight.......guess I was on to something Big.
Now you can take those bad KARMAS of me .......LOL
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on April 07, 2007, 08:24:06 PM
Make that 3-8 for Redlands in their last 11 after being swept by Pomona-Pitzer this weekend (according to the SCIAC website)  PP now 4-0 against Redlands this year w/ an earlier win in a March tourney.

La Verne is 9-3, with PP right behind at 8-4, but LaVerne owns the tie breaker by virtue of taking 2 of 3 last weekend.  Both teams have CalTech left, but PP looks to have a little "easier" schedule with Oxy and CMS as well, vs. Whittier and CalLu for LaVerne.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Sabretooth Tiger on April 08, 2007, 11:31:55 PM
From the Oxy website, Io Triumphe Tigers!

Baseball Sweeps Twin Bill vs. Whitworth

Los Angeles (April 7, 2007)

Occidental ended a three-game slump in dramatic fashion Saturday at Anderson Field,  scoring two runs in the bottom of the ninth inning for a 7-6 victory over Whitworth College. The Tigers won game two of the doubleheader 6-4.

Oxy improved its overall record to 16-15 and can equal its highest win total since 1990 with four wins in the next nine games. Whitworth fell to 10-17 overall.

Occidental scored four runs in the first two innings in game one, taking a 4-0 lead on a home run by Tyler Colville '07 to lead off the second. Starting pitcher Jayson Wiilliams '07 was untouchable through the first four innings but Whitworth put together a two-run rally in the fifth on a pair of singles, a walk and a wild pitch.

The Pirates mounted a four-run rally with two outs in the seventh after three straight base hits, a defensive miscue in right field, and a double by third baseman Alex Scarpelli.

Adam Franks '08 singled to lead off the ninth and pinch runner Seth Goss '08 scored on a base hit by Patrick Sarkissian '10, who went 3 for 5 with three runs batted in in the game. Whitworth leftfielder J.J. Jones made an incredible over-the-shoulder catch to rob Glenn Gray '10 moments later but Ryan Snell walked the next three Tigers to provide the game-winning run.

Phillip Kafka '09 allowed one hit in 2 1/3 innings of relief, recording his second win in eight days. Occidental has claimed five victories in its last at-bat this season.

Marcus Stoiber '09 pitched 2 2/3 scoreless innings to preserve a 5-4 lead in game two. The Tigers scored an important insurance run on a single from Matt Andersen '08 in the fifth. Sarkissian clubbed a three-run homer in the third while Andersen, Franks, and Gray recorded two hits apiece.

Kafka retired the Pirates in order in the seventh to pick up his second save of the season.

Occidental enters the stretch run of its conference season with a 3pm date against Redlands Friday, April 13 at Anderson Field. The Tigers travel to Redlands for an 11am doubleheader on Saturday April 14th.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 10, 2007, 12:40:36 PM
Congrats to the tigers for their big victories on saturday against Whitworth. Although, the tigers came out on good friday with a nasty stink (to much given up runs) i am happy to hear that they did well saturday. After seeing my team get drilled friday, i only hope that they do improve on their defense a bit more. However, i am glad that the bats started to roll on saturday to provide the necessary runs for the big wins.

btw,Pomonaalum i understand that you might think that PP looks to have a little "easier" schedule with Oxy and CMS,
however, let me prove you wrong on this: the tigers will sweep your Hens when they meet.
I'll call this game in favor of the tigers and hope that once you see the results, you will understand that Oxy sure was not an easy game this year. ;D
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on April 10, 2007, 10:22:44 PM
No SCIAC games are easy (except for maybe CalTech) - however, it is a relative term.  When you look at the standings, Cal Lu and Whittier is more difficult on paper than Oxy and CMS, though not by a whole lot.  And in conference play, and against rivals, anything can happen, which is why "easier" is in quotes.

Still, a good showing thus far by a very young Pomona-Pitzer team. 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 11, 2007, 12:53:30 AM
Thats what i was implying Henalum.

I understand that Oxy has always been at the bottom of the SCIAC pile for years, but, just like i told everyone at the start of the season on this board, Oxy will do better than in previous years. Additionally, the reason why i felt that the tigers will do well against the hens is because when both teams met last year the scores where not that far apart. So beware of the tigers as the are ready for Redlands this week and are ready to earn big stripes as they take games away from the dawgs.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: scandihoovian on April 11, 2007, 01:29:41 PM
Just thought I'd mention that Jason Hirsh, a recent CLU alum, will start for the Rockies tonight against the Dodgers.  He pitched well against the Padres last week.

Here's hoping he throws and one hitter and loses 1-0 ;) :D
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 11, 2007, 02:49:21 PM
Absolutely, I will be cheering for the former Saint Francis and Cal Lu alum, but when all is said and done, my Dodgers will kill his pitching tonight. THeres no way that he will win against my team tonight.
I will enjoy the victory even more when he leaves only after 4 innings pitched
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 16, 2007, 09:24:18 PM
Congrats to the dawgs on pulling off a sweep against my tigers. As tough as that was hard to say, it had to to be said.

I never got to attend the friday game in which oxy lost 5-1, but i understand the tigers almost got away with 1, early saturday before falling 12-15. However, on the bright side, the experience against the big sciac champ will do good as my tigers try to find that confidence to claw their way back up the SCIAC with big victories aginst the hens this friday and saturday.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 19, 2007, 04:51:48 PM
One day to go and my tigers are back on the field against a good hen's team. Just to let you guys know, i do expect the tigers to shock the SCIAC by taking two games away from the hens and thus causing trouble in the SCIAC. For all of you that doubt and do not believe my prediction, just be ready to hear the results next week.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 20, 2007, 12:18:12 PM
Good luck to all sciac teams today. ;)
I hope that all games today do not get P.P.D. to the So.Cal rain.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on April 23, 2007, 08:03:00 AM
Who won the 3rd Oxy-PP game?  My understanding is that PP won the 1st two on Saturday pretty convincingly, moving the 'Hens to 12-5 in league play.  Depending on what happened on Sunday, they will still need some help from Whittier to pass La Verne.

Barring something completely unforseen, the Hens will sweep CalTech and need Whittier to take either 1 or 2 from La Verne to take the championship.  Cal Lu helped by taking 2 of 3 this weekend.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on April 23, 2007, 03:40:30 PM
Wow, that took a lot of thought and creativity to wrote that last post.  I guess some people just can't handle winning with class.
Am I wrong or is the SCIAC down to a 2 team race?  Pomona and ULV are tied at the top right now but ULV has a "real" series this weekend against Whittier.  I just dont see ULV coming back after losing 2 of 3 this weekend and pulling off the sweep, but then again, I never in my wildest dreams thought Pomona would be this close to winning the SCIAC.  Who woulda thunk it :o
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on April 23, 2007, 06:52:44 PM
WT     certainly not I.  I really thought that the Bulldogs would repeat this year.  Instead, they are lurking in the middle of the pack.  It looks like that terrific pitching they had last year didnt perform this year.  Oh well, "wait 'till next year".
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 24, 2007, 03:38:31 PM
First and foremost, I need to commend the Hens for doing a good job and coming out with a huge fire in their guts this past saturday and sunday against my tigers. I am sure the hens were doing their best to climb to the top and over take the Leo's spot on top.

However,  I must agree with WT----about "some people just not being able to handle winning with class." I guess its only fair that  Hen fans can act like since this is the only SCIAC championship they will ever come close to encountering this year.

Btw, the Leo's will end up winning the SCIAC this year as WT wildly predicted at the start of the season.  ;D   
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on April 24, 2007, 09:02:59 PM
With a close 3-2 win over Oxy on Sunday, looks like the 'Hens need some help from Whittier to win SCIAC.  For some reason, no scores from this series were updated on the SCIAC website (or either school's sites) until Mon or Tues.  If LaVerne sweeps, they'll win the title based on the tiebreaker, with ULV and PP tied at 13-5 in conference.

Potentially an important non-conference game for PP this week against Chapman - perhaps a win would get the 'Hens a better look for an at large bid, especially after losing to Chapman a couple times earlier in the year.  Not sure if there could be 3 or 4 bids from the CA area?

Not sure what the winning w/ class post was about???
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Just_Some_Guy on April 24, 2007, 09:47:38 PM
Honestly, I don't know if La Verne will drop one this weekend or not, and despite them taking 2 of 3 from Pomona, I still feel like the Hens are the superior team and the best team in the SCIAC this year. Because of this, I would like to see them represent the SCIAC by winning the conference, but IF they do not win the conference - I don't envision them getting an at-large bid.

IF it's a 6 team-regional and all the teams are coming from the West rather than teams being shipped in from other regions I think it'll be Chapman, NWC Champ (likely Pacific Lutheran), SCIAC champ (La Verne or Pomona), ASC champ (no telling who wins that tournament), and then quite possibly George Fox (if they sweep the rest of conference and win 4 of 6 against East Bay/Chapman) and the runner up in the ASC tournament depending on who that team is.  IF Texas Lutheran or UT Dallas win the ASC tournament, I could see the other team receiving an at-large bid with both Trinity and East Bay probably out of the picture this year.

Some_Guy
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 25, 2007, 10:40:08 AM
I am sure that the Hens are not the superior and the best team in the SCIAc this yearas you might have thought Guy, but i do have to honestly say that they do belong close to the Top. With that said, i honestly feel that the Leo's are right were they are supposed to be and  sure can be considered the best team in the SCIAC this year. THere is no doubt that they will be representing the SCIAC in the D3 baseball tourney within weeks. 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on April 25, 2007, 09:49:08 PM
Obviously this will be argued, but I really think the best team in the SCIAC is Cal Lu, but they are also the team that has been under-achieving for the past few years.  Cal Lu has the best facilities (finally) hands down and they still can't figure it out.  Not taking anything away from OXY here, but the 2 games CLU lost to them pretty much ended their season.  How they overlooked OXY amazes me and they have nobody to blame but themselves.  I do not see ULV taking all 3 from Whittier this weekend, which will give P-P the title.....unless they lose to the Beavers ;)
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on April 26, 2007, 02:36:51 AM
WT

Speaking of underachievers, UR has virtually everyone back from last year and they are barely at .500 for the year in the SCIAC.   I really thought they would not only win the SCIAC but maybe a few games in the tourney.  Wow was I off. :(
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 26, 2007, 10:38:41 AM
Well, W.T. i would have thought you would follow your early season prediction that the Leo's surely would be the SCIAC champs this time around, but i think i was mistaken.
To keep this topic short and to the point, the Leo's will win it all against a team like the poets and surely convince the SCIAC polls that they are the #1 team in the League. Of course, other poster have already pointed out that if the hens Tie it up with the Leo's during the weekend, all nods will be in favor of a much better Leo team. And trust me after seeing the poets play this year and comparing them to the Leos, La Verne has a better team.

   
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on April 26, 2007, 01:10:09 PM
BE-  I really have no idea about what will happen, I am predicting a 2-1 series due to the fact that Whittier has one pretty good arm (Name is escaping me) and I feel like he will beat ULV.  Who knows, I guess this will all be figured out by saturday night.

Snoop-  No kidding about Redlands.  What in the world happened to them?  DId they have a lot of guys hurt?  You would think they would be able to carry last year over to this year, but the obviously didnt do that.

PomonaAlum-  The line about not winning with class was directed at a post that has since been removed.  It said some things about BrownEagles predictions and how he was full of it and many other things.  It was obvious it was from either a Pomona player of fan.  No big deal, just not what I expected on a board that has been great this year.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on April 26, 2007, 02:46:34 PM
WT         I dont know either.  From a statistical standpoint it appears that the pitching staff didnt perform as well as last year.  However, as we all know, stats can be very deceiving.  As we also all know a bad bounce here, an error there, a timely hit by the other team can be the difference between a W or an L.  If those go against you 3-5 times in a year, an entire season can go down the tubes in the SCIAC.

It is unfortunate that only one SCIAC  team can get to the tourney, it has to take some of the incentive out of a team that can only finsh or will finish second.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on April 26, 2007, 02:52:20 PM
I think  the SCIAC would certainly benefit from a post-season tourney. It would give the conference teams more to shoot for in the 2-6 slots and also allow a possible second bid as one could go to the tourney winner and a possible Pool C bid to the season winner, in the event that they do not win the tourney.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on April 26, 2007, 04:44:09 PM
BP

I agree, but would a tourney limit the amount of non conference games the teams could play?  It might eliminate playing some patsies and thus make a team more prepared for the tourney should they get in.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on April 26, 2007, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: snoop dawg on April 26, 2007, 04:44:09 PM
BP

I agree, but would a tourney limit the amount of non conference games the teams could play?  It might eliminate playing some patsies and thus make a team more prepared for the tourney should they get in.

Post season (conference tourney or NCAA tourney) games do not count against the maximum number of games allowed during the season.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on April 26, 2007, 05:17:18 PM
BP     I understand that however, and I should have been more specific, from a time standpoint it might make it difficult to fit in as many non conference game if the SCIAC had a toureny.  Most SCIAC  schools want to limit the amount of time away from the classroom and the season is fairly short to begin with between the start of the season and the NCAA tourney.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on April 26, 2007, 07:54:23 PM
The way the baseball schedule is set up in the SCIAC, time away from the classroom is really minimized, especially in conference play.   Most schools don't have class on Friday afternoons, and obviously none on Saturday.  You could easily fit a single elimination tourney into a weekend at a single site, or a double elimination with multiple sites.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 27, 2007, 10:43:48 AM
That would be a great idea. Escpecially since Friday, Saturday and sunday ball would work well. (i.e. it works almost well for the Pac-10 Basketball touney)
The more i think about it, this tourney can even start on a Thursday afternoon.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Just_Some_Guy on April 28, 2007, 10:32:44 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on April 25, 2007, 10:40:08 AM
I am sure that the Hens are not the superior and the best team in the SCIAc this yearas you might have thought Guy, but i do have to honestly say that they do belong close to the Top. With that said, i honestly feel that the Leo's are right were they are supposed to be and  sure can be considered the best team in the SCIAC this year. THere is no doubt that they will be representing the SCIAC in the D3 baseball tourney within weeks. 

I guess there should've been some doubt because Whittier edges La Verne 3-2 in 11 innings in the final game of the three game set and Pomona Pitzer joins Pac Lutheran as another West Region team receiving a Pool A automatic bid.

I belive Austin College is a West Region team (in the SCAC) and Millsaps (who does have the pitching) will have to beat them twice tomorrow in the SCAC tourney otherwise Austin could be headed to the West region tournament as well.  That would definitely shake things up.

Some_Guy
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on April 28, 2007, 11:53:55 PM
Congrats to the Sagehens on their 1st SCIAC title in a few years...must have been a few tense moments sweating out the Whittier-La Verne final.  Looks like the 1st game today was a close, extra inning affair as well...
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: The2ndComing on April 29, 2007, 01:27:18 PM
Congrats to the Sagehens!!! Aside from more predictions that La Verne would win the league outright! Have fun in the playoffs
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on April 29, 2007, 05:51:42 PM
Props to Whittier as well for playing hard in the series in the spoiler role, with nothing to gain for the Poets in the standings.  Looks like LaVerne put runners on 3rd w/ one out twice with a chance to win the game in the 9th and 10th, and Whittier intentionally walked the bases loaded twice to set up the force...from the write-up in the Inland Empire Daily Bulletin, sounds like Pomona's team got there in time to see the end of game 2.  Now, a long layoff for the 'Hens before the playoffs start.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: utilitycat17 on April 29, 2007, 11:33:33 PM
This might seem like an odd question, but how do you get a minus 4 karma after one post, The2ndComing?
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: snoop dawg on April 30, 2007, 01:49:01 AM
Better yet, I went from + 14 to - 13 in a week and only had a few posts.  Go figure.

Congrats to PP on winning the SCIAC, good luck in the tourney.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 30, 2007, 10:40:54 AM
Congratulations to the Hens on winning the SCIAC crown outright over the weekend. In addition, congrats to the poets in playing the role of spoiler and beating a good Leo team. It's hard to read that the poets-Leo game could have gone the other way (in the leo's favor) but ultimately the peots knew how to win. So in all, no hard feelings, i hope that the hens represent the SCIAC well in the upcoming tourney.

As for my tigers, i still have to congratulate them on winning one game over the weekend and starting my saturday off on a good note. I understand that they could have done more, but its all good. 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 02, 2007, 07:09:47 PM
Wait, so the Hens win the SCIAC this past weekend and get congratulated by the loyal hen nation,but the nation has yet to tell us who the Hens will be playing in the 1st round of the tourney or haven't even been lobbying or hyping the hens for the nexts round. What's wrong with this hen nation.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 09, 2007, 10:45:50 AM
Congratulations to the Occidental baseball team who capped another season of improvement May 2 with three student-athletes earning All-SCIAC recognition, the largest total since 1991.

Matt Andersen '08, an All-SCIAC running back last fall, became the first to earn First Team recognition in both football and baseball since Mike Bonetto in 1991-92.

Andersen started 36 of the teams' 40 games and posted a .344 batting average with 11 doubles, two home runs, and 29 runs batted in. He struck out nine times, the fourth-lowest total among SCIAC hitters with at least 100 at-bats.

A centerfielder, Andersen also compiled a .984 fielding percentage with five assists.

Matt Jones '09, the ace of the Tigers' pitching staff, lowered his earned run average from 8.39 to 3.62 in 2007 and received Second Team honors. Jones (3-5) made eleven starts and tossed three complete games, allowing two earned runs in Occidental's 9-4 victory over nationally-ranked Ithaca College March 13.

Glenn Gray '10, an outfielder who garnered Second Team laurels as a freshman, finished sixth in SCIAC with a .409 batting average. He ranked among the league leaders in runs batted in for most of the season.

"Placing three players on the All-SCIAC team is a huge step forward for our program," offered second-year head coach Elliot Strankman. "We are moving closer to a mindset of winning rather than just rebuilding."

Occidental (17-23, 7-14 SCIAC ) improved its batting average from .263 to .293 in 2007. The Tigers will return eight starters and five pitchers who logged 20 or more innings.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 10, 2007, 10:38:18 AM
It good to hear that 5 Leo's made it on the 1st team all-sciac selection. I am sure all Leo fans are pleased that this young and talented team made some noise this year.
Heres an up date on those selected on the all-sciac team from La Verne:

The University of La Verne baseball team earned five spots on the 2007 All-SCIAC First Team ballot. The pitching duo of Mark Simmons and Tim Jolly along with outfielders Brad Licher and Kyle Johnson, and shortstop Jackson Mehl each earned a first-team conference selection.

Simmons finished his senior campaign 8-3 overall, 5-1 in SCIAC action, ranked 20th in wins and 32nd in strikeouts (68) in Division III. He led the conference in strikeouts, runners picked off (13), tied for games started (13), second in wins and fifth in opponents batting average (.255). His victories include a complete-game win over the University of Redlands allowing just one run on three hits while striking out eight Bulldogs. Simmons earned his second selection to the All-SCIAC First Team in his four seasons.

Jolly stepped up as a freshman and earned the starting pitching role midway through the season and flourished going 5-2 overall and did not lose in his final six starts (5-0). He excelled in SCIAC play going 4-0 with a 1.14 ERA including a must-win complete game victory against Whittier College striking out 11 in the process. He allowed just three extra base hits in 39.1 innings and ranked in the Top 5 in ERA (3.00), opponents batting average (.226) and strikeouts (61).

Licher hit .371 overall and connected for two game-winning hits early in the SCIAC season. He led this year's team in home runs (6), which ranks third in conference, slugging percentage (.621) and tied with Johnson driving in 34 runs. His 46 hits, including nine doubles both rank second for the Leos. Licher connected for 12 extra base hits and 24 RBI in just 20 SCIAC contests.

Johnson, a First Team All-SCIAC selection in 2005, had team-highs in hits (54), doubles (11) and runs scored (36) to earn a spot on the 2007 squad. His .572 slugging percentage, four homers and seven stolen bases all ranked second for the Leopards. During the 2007 season he compiled an 18-game hit streak, hit .440 in SCIAC driving in 16 runs and connected for 33 hits in only 21 games.

Mehl started a team-best 39 of 40 games at shortstop this season and solidified a defense fielding .952 overall by notching 121 defensive assists, ranking third in conference. He was the 43rd toughest hitter in the nation to strikeout as he fanned just once every 23.7 at bats. Mehl led ULV in walks (21), sacrifices (12) and triples (3).

The 2007 Leopards (21-18, 15-6 SCIAC) team finished second place in conference while ranking in the Division III Top 50 in home runs, triples and strikeouts thrown per game.

Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 14, 2007, 10:36:09 AM
Good luck to the Hens in the playoffs. Eventhough, imho,  they are the SCIAC champs, there is  just no way they will make it pass the first round of the tourney with 5 other strong teams in the west region. Here is that group who the hens got paired up with.

Hosted by Chapman University, Orange, Calif.

Chapman * (35-5)
Pacific Lutheran (32-7)
Texas Lutheran (35-8)
Texas-Dallas * (32-11)
George Fox * (30-9)
Pomona-Pitzer (29-11)
Austin (22-23)
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Blackcat00 on May 15, 2007, 05:40:07 PM
Someone was asking about the food in appleton. THey had us and all the teams in the downtown Radison. The Radison had a steake house called the Lambardi steakhouse inside. It was awesome! Also Fergosun Jenkins was our speaker at the banquet. We were the only Texas school in the WS and he came over to us and discussed minor league ball and how he was helping put together the new minor league team Frisco Roughriders near Dallas. That was awesome for a hall of famer to sit there and have dinner with us at the sports bar in the radison. I will never trade my experience I had there for anything. Even though we went 2 and out with them both being 1 run loses it is an amazing experience. I wish all the teams in the WEst the best of luck and hope they get to experience Appleton like I did.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on May 15, 2007, 05:41:58 PM
I grew up in the Appleton area and my family is still there. If anyone needs food options let me know.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 22, 2007, 10:31:36 AM
Congrats to the hens for representing the SCIAC over the weekend in the west bball regional. However, i am surprised and shocked that not one singal Hen fan from the hen nation got on this board and wished their team luck. So much for the bragging rights.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on May 22, 2007, 11:00:31 PM
I posted once or twice on the tourney thread.  Hens represented decently, lost a pair of one run games.  They'll be quite competitive again next year with Hedman, Mandelblatt, Kang and a host of others returning.  Hopefully next year they'll win SCIAC again and use this NCAA experience as a springboard towards a deeper NCAA run...it's been tough for SCIAC teams lately with Chapman's return to prominence.  P-P has had the bats in the past, but has never seemed to have the dominant itching needed to go far in the tourney...the 2002 and 2003 teams with Cortez et company as prime examples.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on May 22, 2007, 11:28:33 PM
We will all be itching to see the Hens do well next season. :D
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on May 23, 2007, 11:07:14 AM
Quote from: Gray Fox on May 22, 2007, 11:28:33 PM
We will all be itching to see the Hens do well next season. :D

The Sagehens is one of the best college nicknames out there!
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 23, 2007, 11:23:18 AM
Pomona-Pitzer doesn't link to any of our sites and there's not a lot of their fans here. Probably there's a connection somewhere.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on May 23, 2007, 11:34:10 AM
Quote from: OxyBob on May 23, 2007, 11:31:12 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 23, 2007, 11:23:18 AM
Pomona-Pitzer doesn't link to any of our sites and there's not a lot of their fans here. Probably there's a connection somewhere.

A banner ad for Birkenstock might help.

OxyBob

Ha! If any of you have ever been to Pomona-Pitzer, this would be much funnier! Thanks for the laugh, OxyBob.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on May 23, 2007, 03:29:32 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on May 23, 2007, 02:05:47 PM

I understand that next season the Sagehens aim to be the first NCAA team to wear uniforms made out of hemp.

OxyBob

I hope their season doesn't go up in smoke. ;D
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: pomonaalum on May 23, 2007, 10:39:08 PM
Quote

I understand that next season the Sagehens aim to be the first NCAA team to wear uniforms made out of hemp.

OxyBob


Reed maybe, but not really Pomona-Pitzer...Pitzer certainly has its offbeat element, but not generally among the athletes, and while Pomona is fairly liberal in its political bent, it's a pretty mainstream place.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on June 11, 2007, 11:22:38 AM
I would have thought that the Cal Lu faithful would have posted this over the weekend, but i'll go ahead and mention it, congrats to Cal Lutheran center fielder Lee Ellis who was taken No. 1350 (46th round) by the Baltimore Orioles in the MLB draft.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on June 11, 2007, 03:00:42 PM
Wow, that is great news for the SCIAC and Cal Lutheran.  I had not heard they had a guy drafted but I am wondering one thing....how does a guy not get picked for the All-Conference teams and then go out and get drafted? 
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Jim Dixon on June 11, 2007, 03:38:06 PM
Quote from: Wild Thing on June 11, 2007, 03:00:42 PM
Wow, that is great news for the SCIAC and Cal Lutheran.  I had not heard they had a guy drafted but I am wondering one thing....how does a guy not get picked for the All-Conference teams and then go out and get drafted? 

MLB is looking for different things than good numbers.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on June 11, 2007, 04:20:14 PM
That's a great point W.t.....Thats the same thing that i asked myself. But, in the end, i guess you have to support the local kid for at least getting drafted.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Jim Dixon on June 11, 2007, 04:48:31 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on June 11, 2007, 04:20:14 PM
That's a great point W.t.....Thats the same thing that i asked myself. But, in the end, i guess you have to support the local kid for at least getting drafted.

It should help recruiting if you have a player drafted from your school on a regular basis.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on June 13, 2007, 12:15:45 PM
Jim-

Cal Lu does have guys drafted often, but it really doesnt seem like its helping them all that much.  I might be wrong but they have not won the SCIAC since 2000 which in my mind says a lot about the program that is nowhere near what they used to be.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: BigPoppa on June 13, 2007, 01:06:04 PM
Quote from: Wild Thing on June 13, 2007, 12:15:45 PM
Jim-

Cal Lu does have guys drafted often, but it really doesnt seem like its helping them all that much.  I might be wrong but they have not won the SCIAC since 2000 which in my mind says a lot about the program that is nowhere near what they used to be.

Including current Colorado Rockies pitcher Jason Hirsch.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: utilitycat17 on June 13, 2007, 08:18:55 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on June 13, 2007, 01:06:04 PM
Quote from: Wild Thing on June 13, 2007, 12:15:45 PM
Jim-

Cal Lu does have guys drafted often, but it really doesnt seem like its helping them all that much.  I might be wrong but they have not won the SCIAC since 2000 which in my mind says a lot about the program that is nowhere near what they used to be.

Including current Colorado Rockies pitcher Jared Hirsch.

Its Jason Hirsh, according to mlb.com.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Browneagle64 on June 20, 2007, 10:45:35 AM
Ouch.... It sinks win a big league like MLB gives you the wrong name. However, because of jason's bad E.R.A this year, i think it was a good thing that MLB did that. (just kidding, i was joking around in good humor). I still root for the guy no matter what team he plays for.

From MLB. com
Rockies SP Jason Hirsh would have won his second straight start during Saturday's game against the Devil Rays had he notched two more outs. But as luck has it, Hirsh lasted just 4 1/3 innings, allowing six hits, four walks, two homers and five earned runs. He struck out five in the no-decision. It was the second time in four starts that Hirsh failed to make it through five innings.
Title: Re: SCIAC
Post by: Tom Brady on July 05, 2007, 10:57:14 AM
Saw a little blurb on the CMS web-page about  former baseball player Morgan Cummings who recently signed with the Marlins.  Good to see another SCIAC getting a chance to play some pro ball.
Title: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 18, 2007, 02:07:16 PM
New message board subject heading to facilitate identifying a message board by sport and then by conference.

Good luck in 2008.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on September 25, 2007, 12:21:16 AM
Ahhh, much better Ralph. Hope you are enjoying fall ball and MLB baseball. Thanks for this board.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 27, 2007, 06:39:36 PM
Yes, it is a great time of the year.

The Rangers are no where near to be found.

Young had 200 hits.  Mark Texeiria is getting to play for a winner.

Sosa had a curtain call, and the Dallas Cowboys are 3-0 for the first time since 1999.

We aren't the old Washington Senators for nothing.  Texas Ranger Baseball is good for passing time until the Cowboys training camp opens up.   No brag, just fact!  :-\ 



And Jamie Moyer, the former Pitcher for the Texas Rangers, will pitch for the Phillies in a "meaningful game" on Sunday.   :P
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC
Post by: Gray Fox on September 27, 2007, 07:08:15 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 27, 2007, 06:39:36 PM
Yes, it is a great time of the year.

The Rangers are no where near to be found.

Young had 200 hits.  Mark Texeiria is getting to play for a winner.

Sosa had a curtain call, and the Dallas Cowboys are 3-0 for the first time since 1999.

We aren't the old Washington Senators for nothing.  Texas Ranger Baseball is good for passing time until the Cowbys training camp opens up.   No brag, just fact!  :-\ 
They also give me some opportunities to see The Angels. :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on September 28, 2007, 01:50:38 PM
Haha,

I wish i could say that about my Dodgers as they close their season on a bad note. However, that will not stop me from rooting for several NL players.

Btw, i know that i should post this on a general baseball board, but, all i see is silence so with out further ado: S.I. recently ran a small article on former Wisconsin - La Crosse and D3 all-america Vinny rottino and i couldn't help but to laugh after i figured out who this guy was. The article briefly mentions his young mistake and 15 seconds of fame when he had a brief interferance with a "playable" ball during a brewers game ( I already forgot who they were playing against) Anywho's, the brewer fans hated him for that, yet, now love him being in the utility role. I would have thought that La Crosse fans would be supporting him and his team since they are so close to having a chance in making it to the post season. What a bummer. I sure will root for him if he makes it to the postseason (note: i'll only root for him and not his brewers team, as i am full Dodgers supporter)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on September 28, 2007, 06:31:54 PM
I know it's early, but what is the outlook for the 2008 season?

What kind of pitching is returning for the schools etc?   Any ideas as to the final standings.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on October 12, 2007, 04:38:34 PM
The Leo's return a solid group of players who almost had the chance of winning the SCIAC. Look for Jolly to be the main ace of the pitching staff this year. (I saw this kid play against the stags last year during one of the Leo's double header and boy did he do well on mound.)

The hens will need to do there best to defend their crown,as the graduated a lot of kids that helped them over take the Leo's and dawgs lead for the SCIAC crown race.

Not to sure about the Kingsmen, they've been up and down since the past two years.
As always, don't forget about my tigers, who will indeed reach for the top this year. ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on October 15, 2007, 08:00:58 PM
Um, last I checked it was PP who won SCIAC in 2007.  Hard to believe, I know, but true.
Believe that only 4 seniors graduated, with a lot of talent returning both on the mound and in the lineup.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on October 17, 2007, 04:01:57 PM
Just when I thought former Cal Lu Ace Jason Hirsh would be able to pitch in the world series, the poor guy has to take a major blow. 

Mr. Hirsh has been placed on the D.L for 60-days and will be expected back until spring 07. Man, it would have been great to see the former D3 All-America and local So.cal boy take the mound in the biggest game of his life.

Good luck to his speedy recovery. (And no i am not cheering for his team to win the world series :P)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tom Brady on October 17, 2007, 09:49:05 PM
I was wasting time today looking for schedules and only found a few.  Here is what I think....

OXY-  Are you kidding me with your first 6-8 games????  A 3 game series with a team that shut it down after about 3 games last year (La Sierra) and a team that is by far the worst in the NWC (Whitman).  Not trying to sound like a jerk but step it up a little.

CMS-  Not too bad of a schedule.  As always they play most of their games at home.  A trip up to CSU East Bay should be a nice test.  A 3 game series with PLU and a tournament full of East Coast teams that are not as good as the rest of the nations voters think.

Chapman (yes I know they are not a SCIAC team, but everyone plays them)- As usual, never more than 2-3 games in a week.  Throw their top 3 every time they play.  Playing as an Indy has its advantages.  A nice match up with McMurry, a nice 3 game with East Bay, FINALLY playing OXY (once) and 3 games with everyone else in the SCIAC.  Why take a trip all the way to Texas to play Dallas?  That program is not that great.  Would be better to go play 3 with TLU or UT-Tyler but hey, they didnt ask me to help make their schedule.

My early prediction on the way the SCIAC will finish.......

1. ULV
2. Redlands
3. P-P
4. CLU
5. OXY
6. CMS (some of the best young players, terrible coaching)
7. Whittier
8. The Beavers

No real logic behind these, just my feelings.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on October 18, 2007, 10:15:41 AM
Quote from: Wild Thing on October 17, 2007, 09:49:05 PM

OXY-  Are you kidding me with your first 6-8 games????  A 3 game series with a team that shut it down after about 3 games last year (La Sierra) and a team that is by far the worst in the NWC (Whitman).  Not trying to sound like a jerk but step it up a little.


The brilliance of this is it should immediately boost their in-region record, which is a major criteria in the at-large bid process.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: infielddad on October 18, 2007, 11:23:25 AM
Chapman may be more challenged that one might guess based on last year and returning players.  I understand they had one of their very  best returning players transfer to a DI program.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tom Brady on October 18, 2007, 12:08:42 PM
BigPoppa-  I hear what you are saying but the SCIAC has never had an at-large bid, and in my opinion never will.  Who knows though, this could be the year.

Infielddad-  Who are you speaking of?  I would assume you mean Yacko but they had some other studs too.  Cavan?  Dont leave us hanging here!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on October 18, 2007, 12:45:49 PM
Quote from: Wild Thing on October 18, 2007, 12:08:42 PM
BigPoppa-  I hear what you are saying but the SCIAC has never had an at-large bid, and in my opinion never will.  Who knows though, this could be the year.


In 1995, Both La Verne('95 National Title) and Cal Lutheran were in the NCAA tourney. I am assuming that both were in the SCIAC at the time, but not certain. I believe they were ALL at-large bids at that point, so that point may not matter.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tom Brady on October 18, 2007, 01:33:54 PM
All bids were at large through '98.  Since then the SCIAC has never sent 2.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: infielddad on October 18, 2007, 07:31:53 PM
Wild Thing,
I don't think it is fair to speculate on any specific player and did not intend to create that by my post. If I did that I am sorry.  I want to post it is not Yacko.
When the rosters are posted or when someone associated with the Chapman program posts, that would be a fine time to discuss the season going forward.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tom Brady on October 18, 2007, 07:47:43 PM
Fair enough.  I think it's best to wait till somebody else associated with the program lets us know who it is.  Thanks.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on October 19, 2007, 01:10:24 PM

Welcome back Wild thing:

Here's my opinion about CMS
Although they seem to have Not too bad of a schedule, (As always they play most of their games at home,  A trip up to CSU East Bay should be a nice test, and A 3 game series with PLU and a tournament full of East Coast teams that are not as good as the rest of the nations voters think, if the stags lose most of these games, i think they will shut down and collapse like last year. These guys always start of strong and then tend to blow it. I have no clue why they have always been like this, but this year will not make any difference. I doubt that they will be at the top of the SCIAC this year towards the end, but then again this is a new season.


My early prediction on the way the SCIAC will finish.......

1. ULV
2. P-P
3. UOR
4. Oxy/ Cal Who
5. Whitter  (some of the best young players, terrible coaching)
6CMS
8. The Beavs

The logic behind these, ULV has a strong returning class and a list of upcoming supporting cast members that will keep the club at the top. P-P will do their best to defend its Crown, but it's always tough repeating as champs in baseball. The dawgs will feel the effect of graduation early in the season, but will rebound just like they did last year. My tigers will have an All-america Q.B on the mound + other up and coming kids. THe who is still young but strong and will do well on the field. The poets  (my surprise pick, maybe better than i think) will come with strong first wins and the Stags will fall early yet again.

The beaves will win 1 game in baseball this year ;)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: oldcat on November 06, 2007, 01:06:54 AM
just to let you know...cavan is the one that has transfered to UCSB
one big addition is Mike Vass from UC Riverside
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 06, 2007, 01:40:54 AM
Did Cavan get a scholarship to go to UCSB?

I think that he must sit out a year.  Ryan Cavan played at Trinity (http://www.trinity.edu/departments/athletics/Baseball/statistics/2006/TEAMSTAT.HTM) in 2005-06.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: oldcat on November 06, 2007, 03:24:31 AM
no cavan is walking on to UCSB and he is redshirting or sitting out this year because of the rule that you cannot go to 3 NCAA schools without sitting out one year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on November 06, 2007, 12:20:15 PM
Quote from: oldcat on November 06, 2007, 03:24:31 AM
no cavan is walking on to UCSB and he is redshirting or sitting out this year because of the rule that you cannot go to 3 NCAA schools without sitting out one year.

Bad for Chapman good for me

Jim - UCSB '84
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: oldcat on November 06, 2007, 06:26:50 PM
chapman will hurt from the loss of cavan,  but the addition of mike vass will make up for the offense that was lost.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CalCat on November 06, 2007, 10:48:46 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on November 06, 2007, 12:20:15 PM
Quote from: oldcat on November 06, 2007, 03:24:31 AM
no cavan is walking on to UCSB and he is redshirting or sitting out this year because of the rule that you cannot go to 3 NCAA schools without sitting out one year.

Bad for Chapman good for me

Jim - UCSB '84

Will Cavan two years left at UCSB ?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 07, 2007, 12:12:00 AM
Quote from: CalCat on November 06, 2007, 10:48:46 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on November 06, 2007, 12:20:15 PM
Quote from: oldcat on November 06, 2007, 03:24:31 AM
no cavan is walking on to UCSB and he is redshirting or sitting out this year because of the rule that you cannot go to 3 NCAA schools without sitting out one year.

Bad for Chapman good for me

Jim - UCSB '84

Will Cavan [have] two years left at UCSB ?
I believe that he will.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tom Brady on November 17, 2007, 01:03:57 PM
Cal Lu has posted their schedule.  Pretty weak first three games and then they go take on the big boys from Chapman.

http://www.clusports.com/baseball/schedule/
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on November 17, 2007, 03:33:43 PM
You're right W.T on the "Who's" weak opponents during the opening games, however, i hope that such games like these really get them ready for the big games against the panthers.  Chapman will be real good this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on November 19, 2007, 10:18:38 AM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on November 17, 2007, 03:33:43 PM
You're right W.T on the "Who's" weak opponents during the opening games, however, i hope that such games like these really get them ready for the big games against the panthers.  Chapman will be real good this year.

Though Simpson and  Westmont are a bit weak, they are a NAIA schools and do have scholarship players. It is a way for CLU to play some games and possibly struggl without having it hurt their in-region record. I actually think it is a smart move from a coaching standpoint. They can iron out the wrinkles prior to facing Chapman which will count as in-region.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob Maxwell on November 21, 2007, 11:40:43 AM
Isn't Simpson an NCAA school in the IIAC?  Or isn't this the Simpson in Iowa?

I agree with starting with some non-rgion schools to iron out any kinks... espeically if you start down south after practicing in the gym for weeks.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2007, 12:36:34 PM
Quote from: Bob Maxwell on November 21, 2007, 11:40:43 AM
Isn't Simpson an NCAA school in the IIAC?  Or isn't this the Simpson in Iowa?

I agree with starting with some non-rgion schools to iron out any kinks... espeically if you start down south after practicing in the gym for weeks.
I think that this is Simpson University (http://www.simpsonuniversity.edu/athletics/index.htm) of California (NAIA and NCCAA).
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wildcat11 on December 04, 2007, 12:10:11 PM
I though the baseball lovers here on the SCIAC board would like this blog entry found on sports blog With Leather (http://www.withleather.com).  This is in regards to a document found from 1897 from Major League Baseball where the league banned players from using foul language towards fans, umps, and other players. 

THE LANGUAGE USED HERE IS NOT SAFE FOR WORK...but it is still classic!

Old Time Ball Players Liked To Swear (http://www.withleather.com/post.phtml?pk=4482)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: oldcat on December 05, 2007, 04:05:47 AM
Who does everyone think has the best chance in winning the SCIAC this year?
Is Pomona going to repeat?
Is Redlands going to be a force?
How good is La Verne going to be?
Will Whittier be better than last years disapointing season?
How many games will Oxy win?
I honostly think that Cal Lu is going to be the best team in the SCIAC this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on December 05, 2007, 12:54:58 PM
Welcome O-Cat,

You might want to refer to several post back if you want answers to this question from other posters besides myself. However, My early prediction on the way the SCIAC will finish.......

1. ULV
2. P-P
3. UOR
4. Oxy/ Cal Who
5. Whitter  (some of the best young players, terrible coaching)
6CMS
8. The Beavs

The logic behind these, ULV has a strong returning class and a list of upcoming supporting cast members that will keep the club at the top. P-P will do their best to defend its Crown, but it's always tough repeating as champs in baseball. The dawgs will feel the effect of graduation early in the season, but will rebound just like they did last year. My tigers will have an All-america Q.B on the mound plus other up and coming player (Matt Anderson and co.)
THe who is still young but strong and will do well on the field.
The poets  (my surprise pick, maybe better than i think) will come with strong first wins and good pitching that will keep them in the hunt for the SCIAC crown and the Stags will fall early yet again.

The beaves will win 1 game in baseball this year leading to their first ever baseball documentary entitled the "law of probability".... winning 1 game against a team that is not made up of 70 year olds.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on December 14, 2007, 05:06:11 PM
Quote from: ballplayer on December 14, 2007, 04:37:59 PM
O-cat sorry to tell you but Cal Lu will not win the League this year. From stories I have heard the team has very good talent every year but is always held back by their head coach who is said to have no coaching talent what so ever. Ex players say he cares nothing about the team and only cares about getting his 400th win. Which seems really true considering he has scheduled Simpson and  Westmont.

Do these "ex-player" stories have anything to do with the fact that you personally had a 6.48 ERA in 8 1/3 innings last year? Change your email address so people can't look up your stats and figure out who you are (D. Esters) in about 2 minutes.

And if you are going to make statements about "ex-players" please mention that you are one of his ex-players. Coach Slimak is a wonderful coach and an even better person. I have never had a bad interaction with him.

As for being "held back" by his coaching he has won SCIAC Titles in 1994, 96, 97, 98, 99, 2000, 2001. That is 7 SCIAC titles in the past 14 years of coaching at Cal Lu. Most schools would love to have that record. I know they have not won it since 2001, but other schools stepped up their game and Cal Lu just needs time to respond.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: oldcat on December 15, 2007, 05:35:08 AM
does chapman go undefeated in the sciac againi this year??
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 15, 2007, 09:38:08 PM
Quote from: oldcat on December 15, 2007, 05:35:08 AM
Does Chapman go undefeated in the SCIAC again this year??
I will assume that this is a pointed barb at the SCIAC from old "differences of opinion"! 

Chapman went 15-0 versus the SCIAC schools last year and has posted their 2008 schedule.

2008 Chapman Baseball Schedule (http://www.chapman.edu/athletics/men/baseball/schedule.asp)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on December 16, 2007, 06:34:46 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 15, 2007, 09:38:08 PM
Quote from: oldcat on December 15, 2007, 05:35:08 AM
Does Chapman go undefeated in the SCIAC again this year??
I will assume that this is a pointed barb at the SCIAC from old "differences of opinion"! 

Chapman went 15-0 versus the SCIAC schools last year and has posted their 2008 schedule.

2008 Chapman Baseball Schedule (http://www.chapman.edu/athletics/men/baseball/schedule.asp)
More importantly, will they be able to go undefeated against ASC teams? :D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on December 17, 2007, 01:11:37 PM
Haha, No kidding. I think Chapman should be Co-SCIAC Baseball Champs.  However, i am not sure about their football team.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on January 11, 2008, 12:58:34 PM
Great news for SCIAC baseball fans and Cal Lu fans alike,

former Cal Lu pitcher Matt Hirsh, the younger brother of Jason Hirsh, has received an invitation to spring training by the Colorado Rockies. According to the hirsch brothers website, he will be leaving sometime during the first week in March and will compete for a spot on the Rockies full season roster.

Jason reports for spring training on February 15th.
Best of luck to young Matt and Jason in the upcoming season. Hope that the boys get a chance to step on the mound in L.A. against my Dodgers.  :P

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 11, 2008, 01:05:12 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on January 11, 2008, 12:58:34 PM
Great news for SCIAC baseball fans and Cal Lu fans alike,

former Cal Lu pitcher Matt Hirsh, the younger brother of Jason Hirsh, has received an invitation to spring training by the Colorado Rockies. According to the hirsch brothers website, he will be leaving sometime during the first week in March and will compete for a spot on the Rockies full season roster.

Jason reports for spring training on February 15th.
Best of luck to young Matt and Jason in the upcoming season. Hope that the boys get a chance to step on the mound in L.A. against my Dodgers.  :P



I wish my brothers and I had a website.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on January 11, 2008, 01:09:23 PM
Same here BP. I guess that's the perks for being in the Big leagues.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on January 28, 2008, 05:10:25 PM
Redlands has posted their 2008 roster.

  http://www.redlands.edu/x34609.xml
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on January 31, 2008, 11:18:42 AM
Here's some info on my Tigers and what looks to be like a great note for all you SCIAC fans that have been waiting to see the tigers crawl out of the cellar.

The pitching staff should be stronger this year and will be fun to watch on friday and saturday afternoon's.

(I wish I knew how to link articles :)  )

From the Oxy website:
Back at the Ballpark; Tigers Prepare for the Upcoming Baseball Season

LOS ANGELES, Calif. (Jan. 29, 2008) – After leading the Tigers to their best overall record in many years during the 2007 season, Head Coach Elliott Strankman brings back a wealth of talent coupled with a strong freshman class and a pair of key transfers who will all contribute to the continued success of the Occidental baseball program.

Returning to the diamond in 2008 are 18 players including eight starters and four pitchers who logged 20 or more innings, a year ago. 

Leading the way for Oxy will be the trio of Matt Andersen, Glenn Gray and Matt Jones who all earned recognition from the Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference as All-SCIAC selections in 2007.   

Andersen, a three year starter for the Tigers, was named to the First Team All-SCIAC for the second time (2005-SS) after posting a .984 fielding percentage with 115 putouts and five assists in center field. Offensively he finished among the top-three players in batting average (.344), hits (44), doubles (11), triples (2), homeruns (2), RBIs (29) and total bases (65). Andersen produced a .508 slugging percentage and a .407 on base percentage. A threat on the base paths as well, Andersen stole 11 bases in 12 attempts.

Landing on the Second-Team All-SCIAC following his freshman season was Gray, whose .409 batting average was the sixth highest in the conference. Gray, who appeared in all 40 games in 2007, was ranked among the top players in the SCIAC in doubles (15) and triples (4). Additionally, his 56 hits, 85 total bases, 15 walks, .620 slugging percentage and .478 on base percentage  put him at the top of all the Oxy statistical categories. In the outfield Gray finished with a .967 fielding percentage. Following the season Gray was also named to the Third Team All-West Region.

Finally, Jones, a junior righty, earned Second Team All-SCIAC after anchoring the Tigers pitching staff a year ago with 72.0 innings in 11 starts. He finished with a 3.62 ERA, holding opposing hitters to a .294 average. Jones (3-5) led the pitching staff with 26 strike outs. The highlight of the 2007 season for Jones was a complete game victory over nationally-ranked Ithaca College in which he allowed just two earned runs.

Representing the senior class on the field in 2008 will be Adam Frank (C/1B), Donald Baarns (2B), Jonathan Birch (1B), Geoff Cromwell (C), Seth Goss (2B) and Andersen.

Franks started 39 of the Tigers' games, accumulating a team leading 148 at bats and 32 runs in 2007. With a .309 batting average, he was second on the team in hits (45), RBIs (29) and walks (14) and third on the team with 10 doubles and 61 total bases. Behind the plate Franks compiled a .984 fielding percentage.

Baarns drew 15 walks, stole eight bases in 11 attempts and scored 24 runs for the Tigers a year ago. Birch finished with a .314 batting average, Goss scored 22 times and was 5-for-6 on the base paths.

The junior class is compiled of Noel Banuelos (P), Marcus Stobier (P), Richard Viehl (3B/1B), Spencer Woolwine (P/UTL) and Jones.

Viehl played in 38 games, picking up 33 hits 36 total bases. Woolwine stole a pair of bases last season. Jones also added a .300 batting average with 11 walks and a .453 on base percentage.

Seven sophomores including Geoff Ball (P/OF), Anthony Ciardelli (P), Riley Hathaway (OF), Jason Jebbia (SS/2B), Patrick Sarkissian (C/1B) Aaron Stanton (OF) and Gray will don black and orange for their second season.

Ball was third on the team with a .327 batting average. Sarkissian and Stanton put up .317 and .316 batting averages, respectively, last season. Sarkissian hit three homeruns, scored 23 times, drove in 19 and was third on the Tigers with a .475 slugging percentage while Stanton stole a base in his lone attempt. In the field Sarkissian posted a .981 fielding percentage with 190 putouts and 16 assists. Hathaway and Jebbia got their first taste of collegiate baseball in 2007.

The Oxy pitching staff will feature Ciardelli (21.2 innings, 18 K, .235 opponent BA, 10 appearances), Banuelos (2-5, 46.2 innings, 16 K, 8 starts) and Stobier (4-1, 3.21 ERA, 28.0 innings, 1 save). Woolwine tossed 13.0 innings, holding opponents to a .235 average, recording a save in eight appearances. Ball also stepped on the hill in 2007, throwing 8.1 innings for the Tigers.

Gray, Andersen, Franks and Woolwine each hit two long balls last season. Andersen recorded seven sacrifices (five hits) and Baarnes has six (four hits) with two sac-fly's apiece. 

Adding depth to the Tigers is a very talented group of incoming players who will inevitably make this team and program  better.

Joining the Tigers from Moorpark JC is 6-foot-6 sophomore transfer first baseman Ryan Falck who batted .318 for the Raiders last season. Kieran Doherty also joins the Oxy squad from LA Pierce College where the junior pitcher spent two seasons.

Rounding out the 2008 squad are a strong and talented freshman class composed of 14 players: Brooks Belter (6'1", 175, RHP, Lakeville, CT), Alex Bukac (6'0", 175, 1B/OF, Oil City, PA), John Clair (6'0", 180, RHP, Los Angeles, CA), Dale Garrett (5'11", 175, C, Burbank, CA), Casey Harms (6'1", 185, OF, Fair Oaks, CA), Dwight Hobbs (6'1", 170, OF, San Francisco, CA), William Ireton (5'10", 170, 3B, Tokyo, Japan), Daniel Kelley (5'9", 160, 2B, Kirkland, WA), Case Miyahira (5'10", 160, SS, Honolulu, HI), Ross Pomerantz (5'11", 165, LHP, Kentfield, CA), Miles Sherman (5'10", 155, C, Bronx, NY), Nicholas Smallman (6'0", 175, RHP, Carson City, NV), Kristopher Suzuki (6'1", 150, LHP/OF), San Francisco, CA) and Michael Zugsmith (6'2", 185, C, Studio City, CA).

"There is no doubt that our incoming group of players will contribute to this team right away," Strankman said in an interview. "Our transfers will play key roles and some of our freshmen have the opportunity to make immediate impacts for us. The freshmen middle-infield duo of Miyahira, a switch-hitting shortstop and Kelley (2B) have already shown their talent on the field."

 

Going out and playing hard every day, giving full effort all the time, will be key to the Tigers success. Adding a  pair of southpaws, Pomerantz and Suzuki, to the rotation will help the pitching staff immensely. "Defensively, we need to make the routine plays. In the end the team in the SCIAC that can pick the ball up consistently will win."

Occidental made significant strides in 2007, finishing with a 17-23 overall record, 7-14 in SCIAC play. They improved their team batting average to .293 from .263 in 2006 with the aim of continuing to grow and become more competitive within the SCIAC this year.

Veteran leadership and youthful, energetic newcomers will bind together with the common goal of working hard and playing harder in 2008.

In 2005 when members of the class of 2008 stepped on the field for the first time this was a struggling program. Over the past three years, these young men have worked hard and made a commitment to turning the program from nothing into something.

"I think one of our greatest strengths this year will be our leadership." Strankman went on, "We have some older players with a remarkable work-ethic who want to succeed. They have been through thick and thin and are ready and willing to push each other to improve and achieve the common goal of winning."

Playing consistent baseball is imperative to their success in 2008. Strankman believes that if these guys work hard as a team, the leadership and effort will speak for itself and everything else will fall into place. "Watching the players step up and take charge, seeing the kids learning to lead and win together enhances the experience for everyone and as a coach, it is exhilarating to watch."

This year's schedule features games against very competitive institutions from across the nation. Oxy will face local powerhouse Chapman University, as well as the University of Puget Sound (WA). A number of prestigious east coast schools such as Ithaca (NY), Rutgers-Camden (NJ) and Wesleyan (CT) will be travelling to Southern California for the California Classic in mid-March.

In what is expected to be a tight race in the conference, the Tigers are glad to get the season underway.

"I am excited to get back out on the field and I anticipate seeing significant growth and progress within our program."

Strankman is looking forward to the SCIAC series against Redlands and La Verne noting that they have been close to beating these schools in the past and this could be the year.

"The number one goal of this program is to continue to grow and enjoy our time on the field as our student-athletes have an experience they can be proud of for the rest of their lives."

Unquestionably, there will be lots of good baseball played this spring. So, as the Tigers pull on their Oxy black and orange and step out onto the field for another season of baseball, the future of this program looks bright.

 

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on January 31, 2008, 10:40:17 PM
CMS has posted their 2008 roster:

http://www.cmsathletics.org/sports/spring/bsb/2007-08/roster    (http://www.cmsathletics.org/sports/spring/bsb/2007-08/roster)

Btw, i was glad to see that the Stags finally gave recognition to former All-SCIAC, CMS Alum, and Blue Crew slugger Wes Parker on their Baseball front page.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 01, 2008, 01:00:50 PM
While handling some business on ULV's campus last night I had the opportunity to see the Leo's handle their practice with a business like attitude. Although, the Leo's seem young on paper, this team is poised to do well offensively with their bats. On the flip side, their defensive skills looked a bit shaddy, but, then again this was just practice. Look for the pitching staff to by solid this year and riding behind their ace Jolly.   
I am sure the boys in orange and black will take two or more games away from the Leo's this year though :P

Here's the leo's season outlook, b.t.w
  http://www.ulv.edu/athletics/teams/sport.phtml?u_id=5   (http://www.ulv.edu/athletics/teams/sport.phtml?u_id=5)
The Leo's Current roster
http://www.ulv.edu/athletics/teams/roster.phtml?sport=5   (http://www.ulv.edu/athletics/teams/roster.phtml?sport=5)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 04, 2008, 01:30:37 PM
Wow, it's great to see that both "The Who" and the Leo's got some exposure on the front page of the D3baseball.com.

As expected the Leo's started off their season by taking one away from a good N.A.IA Biola team.  From the front page:"La Verne (1-1) split a pair of games with Biola winning 2-1 on Friday and coming up on the short end of a 7-2 score Saturday". 

Cal Lutheran (1-0) won its 2008 season home opener on Saturday afternoon defeating NAIA Division I foe Simpson University, 6-2. Kingsman junior pitcher Alex Casillas held the Redhawks to just one run in six full innings to pick up the win. Right-fielder Trevor Davidson went 3-for-3 including a pair of doubles and reached base safely in all five plate appearances.

Further more, even though Chapman is not apart of the SCIAC  (but can be considered Co-SCIAC champs for beating our teams every year), the Panthers continued their winning ways with a doubleheader sweep of Whittier (0-3) by 17-11 and 8-2 scores.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 04, 2008, 02:00:00 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on February 04, 2008, 01:30:37 PM


Cal Lutheran (1-0) won its 2008 season home opener on Saturday afternoon defeating NAIA Division I foe Simpson University, 6-2. Kingsman junior pitcher Alex Casillas held the Redhawks to just one run in six full innings to pick up the win. Right-fielder Trevor Davidson went 3-for-3 including a pair of doubles and reached base safely in all five plate appearances.



I am not certain that Cal Lu's win was as impressive as it seems. Simpson is a very weak, non-scholarship NAIA baseball program that struggles to compete with the other NAIAs in California. They are an independent program as they are too weak to be brought into the NAIA's Golden State Athletic Conference. While it was a great win for Cal Lu, it will do nothing for their in-region record.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 04, 2008, 02:50:52 PM
I absolutely agree. Even though, the Redhawks are a D1 NAIA team, they always seems to struggle to find talent and produce good teams. Believe me, I've seen this team play within the last few years at the Rock and certainly hoped that at least they could put on a performance.  However, once teams start to expose their weak defense and weak pitching staff, all things go down hill for the Hawks. This is the same Simpson U. team that always schedules most of the SCIAC school's, yet, end up getting beat by the SCIAC teams when they face each other.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 07, 2008, 12:50:03 AM
F.Y.I

According to research done by our very own board moderator, Ralph Turner, the mighty hen's are being looked and considered to be a strong team out here in the west. However, i am sure the committee probabily overlooked U.L.V's team, who i think, will be a tough opponent in SCIAC play this season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 07, 2008, 01:59:37 AM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on February 07, 2008, 12:50:03 AM
F.Y.I

According to research done by our very own board moderator, Ralph Turner, the mighty hen's are being looked and considered to be a strong team out here in the west. However, i am sure the committee probabily overlooked U.L.V's team, who i think, will be a tough opponent in SCIAC play this season.
Yeah, you write a great 5 page review, and the editor cuts its 2 pages!!!!  :D  :D  :D

Part of the article that got edited was my anticipation of the Texas Lutheran trip to southern California.  TLU plays ULV and Redlands in a pair of DH's.  That really tests the TLU pitching staff.  Those games and the George Fox at McMurry 3-game series are big that weekend!

I hope that your SID will post the game reports from the snowbird games in March.  Those should be fun, including the Kean games!  :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 09, 2008, 03:31:19 PM
Oxy is up 4- 1 against Whitman College in the 7th inning ;D
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Post by: Browneagle64 on February 09, 2008, 03:40:51 PM
At the end of 7, Oxy added two more scores making it 6-1. Man, its great to be able to come back to Anderson field, be able to sit in my old sport with my laptop right outside Stewie Hall and watch some Tiger baseball on a clear and sunny saturday afternoon. 8)   
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Post by: Browneagle64 on February 09, 2008, 04:19:28 PM
After 9 complete innings, the men in orange and black get their first win of the season. Congratulations to Oxy and the pitching staff today. Beind Matt Jones, Kris Suzuki and closer Doherty, the boys got the job done. Can't wait for this afternoon's game in 30 mins. Should be fun to watch.
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Post by: Gray Fox on February 09, 2008, 06:15:15 PM
Is Oxy's President, who used to be president at Whitman,  there?
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Post by: Browneagle64 on February 09, 2008, 06:20:43 PM
That's a good Question Fox.

First of all, I've never seen a picture of the guy, so i don't know how he looks like. 2nd of all, i do see an elderly fella out here, but i'm afraid i may confuse him with the always present Oxybob. And 3rd of all, to tell you the truth, i always sit at the very top of Anderson field (never in the stands with the fans) as i used to do back when i was living on campus.  ;D 
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Post by: Gray Fox on February 09, 2008, 06:26:25 PM
Here is a picture.  It was hard to find.

  http://www.oxy.edu/x2966.xml
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Post by: Ralph Turner on February 09, 2008, 08:13:54 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on February 09, 2008, 06:26:25 PM
Here is a picture.  It was hard to find.

  http://www.oxy.edu/x2966.xml

QuoteSkotheim and his wife Nadine have three grown sons and daughters and eight grandchildren.

In Skotheim's bio, he has "three grown sons and daughters".

Does that mean he has 6 children?   :D

Or which is plural...the sons or the daughters?   ???    :o   ::)  :D  ;D
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Post by: Browneagle64 on February 10, 2008, 10:03:49 PM
Congrats to Whitman on finishing today's game. My Tigers committed two big errors in the 7th inning that openned the flood gates for the missionaries. In deed, 6 strong innings did go to waste after these errors. However, i do hope the boys will fix such mistakes before the take the field again against the Pios this upcoming week.

From the Oxy website:
Eighteen hits and ten runs were not enough to overcome errors and runners left on base today as the Tigers dropped an 11-10 decision to Whitman College at Anderson Field in the finale of a three game series.

As they did yesterday the Missionaries took an early lead with a run in the top of the first. Occidental quickly go ahead when senior centerfielder Matt Andersen connected for a two-run first inning homerun.

Oxy added a pair in both the second and third innings before Richard Vehil led off the fifth with a solo shot to center field, putting the Tigers up 7-1.

Six strong innings from freshman Ross Pomerantz was wasted as things went sour for the Tigers in the seventh. Three Tigers pitchers combined to allow seven runs on three hits, four walks and three errors as the Missionaries sent 12 men to the plate.

Oxy battled back, scoring two runs in the bottom part of the inning, taking a 9-8 lead.

Whitman continued the assault in the top of the eighth, adding three more runs on back-to-back doubles after the first two batters singled and advanced on Oxy errors. Spencer Woolwine came in from left field, recording the final two outs of the eighth.

In the bottom of the eighth Case Miyahira and Patrick Sarkissian drew walks before Andersen hit a sac fly to center, scoring Miyahira from third.

Woolwine took the hill again in the ninth, keeping WC off the board, sitting two batters down on strikes.

A late Oxy rally fell short as Vehil was stranded on third following a single and stolen base to lead off the inning.

Occidental left 19 men on base, which proved costly in the end. The offense was led again by Andersen who was 3-5, a triple away from a cycle, with five RBIs and three runs. Miyahira and Vehil combined for six hits. Woolwine, Franks and junior transfer Ryan Falck each singled twice. Falck also drew two walks, was hit by a pitch and scored twice.

Whitman's 11 runs came on 12 hits with two from Luke Marshall, Erik Korsmo and Michael Lazcano.

Defensively both teams struggled, committing five errors apiece.

Pomerantz scattered five hits over six, allowing one earned run, walking four in his Oxy debut. Woolwine faced just six batters, recording three Ks.

The Tigers fall to 1-2 on the young season while the Missionaries return to Washington with a 2-1 season record.

Oxy will take the field again on Sunday, Feb. 17 when they host the Pioneers of Lewis and Clark (OR) for a doubleheader starting at 11:00 a.m. on Anderson Fiel
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Post by: Browneagle64 on February 10, 2008, 10:10:41 PM
Oh ya, one more thing, congrats to the Leo's in taking one game away from a good Cal State East bay team yesterday. However, like the boys in Orange and black today, the leo's couldn't finish their game.

2/09/08 sat game
L, 4-9/W, 14-6 2-2

Sunday's game
Cal State East Bay  La Verne  L, 8-9

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Post by: Browneagle64 on February 12, 2008, 03:57:57 PM
Hey Folks,

Just F.Y.I, our Co-SCIAC baseball champs, the mighty panthers of Chapman, take on "the Who" in Thousand Oaks this Friday for what should be a really tough game.
Then on saturday both clubs meet up in the O.C. for a double header.
I hope that Scandii has his sun screen and baseball cap ready because boy will these upcoming three games be really hot for the Who.

Any word on the Poets and hens????? 
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Post by: Just_Some_Guy on February 13, 2008, 02:13:23 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on February 12, 2008, 03:57:57 PM
Any word on the Poets and hens????? 

The Hens are 1-1. They fell in their first game of the season to Point Loma Nazarene 2-7, and then defeated Cal State San Bernardino 6-5.

The Hens trailed CSUSB 5-1 entering the ninth but scored 5 runs on 4 hits and two costly errors to beat the Coytoes.

The Poets are currently 0-4.

La Verne is 2-3, The Redlands are 3-1 and Cal Lu opened up 2-1.

La Verne split with Biola and then lost 2 of 3 to Cal State East Bay.
The Redlands beat up on La Sierra. There loss is to Cal Baptist.

Cal Lutheran has Chapman this weekend.
La Verne and the Redlands have DH's with Texas Lutheran this weekend, though for some reason the Leopards games are not listed on the SCIAC master schedule.

Should be a good weekend to get some indication of how those three teams will present themselves this year.

JSG

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Post by: Browneagle64 on February 15, 2008, 04:43:07 PM
It looks like so.cal will have some great weather this weekend just in time for another round of baseball.

The panther v.s. who series should be interesting to hear about. Not only will we be finding out if Cal Lu will have a strong team this year, but, we will also learn if the panthers are indeed ready to re-peat as Co-sciac champs (hahah, just kidding on this by the way).

As for the Leo and Texas Lutheran game, i hope that this series will be great to watch. I'll have the chance to catch part of game one ,as i'll be on campus handling business tomorrow, and am looking forward to seeing how both teams play.
I am sure the SCIAC is ready to represent this weekend.

As for my tigers, i'll be attending Sunday's DH and am hoping that this time around they take both games away from the Pio's.
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Post by: HALLEBASEBALL on February 15, 2008, 08:47:57 PM
7-3 Chapman Game over
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Post by: Browneagle64 on February 16, 2008, 05:03:14 PM
Wow, great Job by the leo pitching staff in sweeping away a strong Texas Lutheran team.  :)

From the leo website:
The University of La Verne baseball team earned a doubleheader sweep over Texas Lutheran University by defeating the visiting Bulldogs by scores 4-3 and 14-6 Friday at Ben Hines Field.

La Verne rallied from a 3-0 deficit with two runs each in the fourth and fifth innings to post a 4-3 victory in the seven-inning opener. Jon-Michael Hattabaugh blasted a two-run homer off TLU's Logan Huff in the bottom of the fifth to provide the winning margin for the Leopards.

Trailing 3-0, the Leopards got on the board in the fifth with two runs courtesy of two hits and a Bulldog error. Ryan Jordan singled and scored on a Trevor Boucher groundout to produce the first run. Mike Moretti then reached on an error to score Brandon Mikkleson to cut the lead to 3-2.

Ryan Rose pitched 5 1/3 innings to allowing three runs on three hits to earn the win. Each of the three Bulldog runs allowed by Rose were unearned, as Texas Lutheran took advantage of three Leopard errors to plate three runs in the top of the second inning. Rose struck out four batters and yielded just one walk in the victory.

Grant Wheatley pitched 1 1/3 innings in relief, striking out three to earn the save.

The nightcap produced less drama as ULV posted 17 hits while taking advantage of four Texas Lutheran errors to cruise 14-6. The Leopards scored five runs in the third, four runs in the fourth and three runs in the fifth to distance themselves from the Bulldogs.

Ryan Jordan each belted three-run homers for the Leopards. Jordan's home run in the fourth gave ULV a 9-3 advantage while Marcus went deep an inning later to put the Leos up 12-4. Marcus, Jordan and Dimitre Mondotte each had 3 RBI each in the win while Jack Mehl went 4-5 with 3 runs scored.

La Verne starting pitcher Jesse Sweet was the beneficiary of the run support, hurling five innings while giving up one earned run.

ULV begins SCIAC action next weekend with a three-game series with Cal Lutheran. The Kingsmen and Leopards begin with a single game on Friday at Ben Hines Field followed by a doubleheader in Thousand Oaks.
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Post by: Browneagle64 on February 16, 2008, 08:41:20 PM
Great job to Chapman this afternoon. The panthers continued to show the nation why they are consider the fourth best team (in the nation that is) as they swept "the who" in a double header.
First game Cal lu 3- panthers 7  and 2nd game  Cal Lu 4- panthers 7 
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Post by: HALLEBASEBALL on February 16, 2008, 09:59:51 PM
How about Chapmans nine hole 17 RBI'S.  Wow! Kyle Redding Sr Middle Infielder.  I would guess he is leading the nation HA HA.
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Post by: D O.C. on February 17, 2008, 06:00:07 PM
Quote
Is that one of those "perverbial" [sic] nails?

What a memory! Nothing wrong with those brain cells.

What a hobby remembering it all!
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Post by: Browneagle64 on February 17, 2008, 09:00:38 PM
Congrats to the Tigers for taking one game away from the Pios this morning 12-1. However,  the second game was a complete different story

From the tiger website.
LOS ANGELES, Calif. (Feb. 16, 2008) – Occidental's starter Matthew Jones tossed the complete seven inning game and got plenty run support en route to a 12-1 victory over Lewis & Clark in game one of a double-header that the teams split today at Anderson Field.



A solid outing by Jones, who allowed just three hits, set the stage for the game. Lewis & Clark led off the fourth with a single and a double, before the Pioneer's Jordan Wlodarczyk lifted a fly ball to centerfield, driving in the lone LC run of the game. Jones struck out three and issued just one free pass as he earned his second win of the season. 

Backing his performance on the hill was a fourth inning grand slam off the bat of junior Richie Veihl that changed the tempo of the game, giving the Tigers a 7-1 lead.

Sophomore outfielder Glenn Gray led off the fourth inning with a double to right center before Adam Franks and Ryan Falck reached on back-to-back singles. Right fielder Spencer Woolwine was hit by a pitch to load the bases for Veihl.

Oxy added a pair more in the fifth and strung together five singles that led to the final three runs of the game for the Tigers.

The Tigers scored 12 runs on 14 hits. Franks was 3-3 at the plate and drew a walk, scoring twice and driving in three. Falk finished the game 3-4 with a double, three RBIs and a run scored. Gray and Veihl had two hits apiece while Gray and Case Miyahira each scored twice.

The result of game two was less than identical, as the Tigers fell to the Pioneers by a 7-3 score.

LC tagged Oxy's game two starter, Noel Banuelos, for seven runs, before knocking him out of the game without recording an out in the second. Freshman southpaw Ross Pomerantz came on in relief for the Tigers, scattering three hits, while walking one and striking out three in 6.0 innings.

Senior centerfielder Matt Andersen cleared the bases with a triple down the left field line in the fifth to get the Tigers on the board. Seth Goss singled twice and freshman shortstop Dan Kelley accounted for the only other Tiger hits of the game. 

Goss also had a stolen base in each game today.

Occidental will open Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference play next Friday at home against the University of Redlands with the first pitch scheduled for 2:30 p.m.

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Post by: Just_Some_Guy on February 18, 2008, 02:51:42 PM
Quote from: HALLEBASEBALL on February 16, 2008, 09:38:00 PM
How about Chapmans nine hole 17 RBI'S.  Wow! Kyle Redding Sr Middle Infielder.  I would guess he is leading the nation HA HA.

Actually it's not leading the nation, Seth Kivett of Methodist University has 18 RBIs.

(I don't know that it's necessarily leading the nation, but I was aware he had more than Redding currently does).

He's 16-32 (.500), w/ 2 2Bs, 6 HRs, 18 RBIs and a .590 OBP.

While I suspect you were just trying to stir the pot with respect to Chapman, I will acknowledge that it's cool that Redding has done that out of the 9 hole and speaks volumes about those guys that are getting on base in front of him. Pearson and Hall are leading the team in avg and Hall's OBP is .500

JSG
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Post by: Browneagle64 on February 19, 2008, 04:32:20 PM
Just F.Y.I Here's this week's SCIAC baseball schedule:


Pacific (Ore.)   Pomona-Pitzer   2:00 PM   
   
   Cal Lutheran   La Verne   2:30 PM   
   
   Caltech   Claremont-M-S   2:30 PM   
   
   Redlands   Occidental   2:30 PM 

After a poor start these past weeks the stags should finally get a win this friday.
The Redlands v.s. Oxy game should be one heck of a tough game for the Tigers, but in the end i strongly believe the Tigers walk away with a "W".
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Post by: oldcat on February 19, 2008, 07:21:26 PM
I was at the Oxy vs. Lewis Clark game. I was not impressed. I almost felt like i was at a high school game. It might of just been a bad game, but it was bad.
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Post by: Browneagle64 on February 22, 2008, 05:28:37 PM
Just when i thought my friday afternoon luck was going to provide me some baseball, the Tiger v.s. pup game has been moved to Sunday afternoon due to what i call sprinkles of water falling out of the sky.  ;)
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Post by: Browneagle64 on February 26, 2008, 03:33:21 PM
Here's a reminder for you folks,

The Oxy v.s. Redlands game that was to be played sunday afternoon will take place this afternoon at 2:30pm (on Anderson field) and apparently will be boardcasted by Tigersports (?_. It should be a great game in the Rock, as we are currently experiencing some great surfing weather.  8) 
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Post by: Browneagle64 on February 27, 2008, 12:14:38 AM
Wow, what a great game by the Tigers this afternoon and a great win against a tough Pup club.

Here's the game wrap-up just F.Y.I:
LOS ANGELES, Calif. (Feb. 26, 2008) – In what proved to be a historic day at Anderson Field Occidental College defeated the University of Redlands 9-2 in Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference action, marking the first time the Tigers defeated the Bulldogs during Head Coach Elliott Strankman's tenure.

Occidental used the days of rain to refocus and it showed as the 11 men stepped to the plate in a first inning that included four hits, three hit batters and a walk. With the bases loaded, junior right fielder Spencer Woolwine sent an opposite field homerun over the right field wall to put the Tigers up 7-1.

A cushion to work with settled freshman southpaw Ross Pomerantz who tossed 6.0 innings allowing no earned runs while striking out three. He walked five and scattered eight hits, but only one was extra bases as Redlands' Luke Wetemore doubled in the sixth. Pomerantz recorded his first win of the season, also marking his first collegiate victory.

Woolwine's arm proved to be as powerful as his swing as he ended the third firing a bullet from right field in to catcher Adam Franks who tagged out  his counterpart Jefre Johnson by three steps.

"That play was huge for us," said Franks. "We were able to kill the Redlands momentum early and shut them down. That gave our guys a lift that we needed." 

Oxy scored their final two runs of the game in the second and seventh innings respectively. First baseman transfer Ryan Falck walked and scored on an error to give the Tigers their eighth run of the game. Richie Veihl led off the seventh with a walk and scored on a double by freshman shortstop Case Miyahira. 

Franks accounted for two of the Tigers' six hits. Veihl and Falck each reached base three times and scored twice.

After facing two batters in the sixth Pomerantz handed the ball over to Kieran Doherty who earned a three inning save, allowing four hits and a walk while striking out one. 

The Bulldogs got on the board in the first, but didn't score again until the ninth.

Strankman called today's win special for the senior players. 

"This win represents everything that we have been fighting for over the past four years," Franks went on, "Everything is coming together for us and now our program will earn some respect from the other schools around our conference."

Oxy baseball has grown significantly over the past three years and the progress is now being seen. "This was a statement game for our program," offered Strankman "Our program is continuing to move in a positive direction and this is a huge step for us." 

With the victory the Tigers improve to 3-4 and now hold a 1-2 SCIAC record. Redlands falls to 9-2, 2-1.

The Tigers will travel to Claremont, Calif. on Friday to play the defending SCIAC Champion Pomona-Pitzer Sagehens at 2:30. The series will conclude with a double header at Anderson Field on Saturday, March 1. First pitch is scheduled for 11:00 a.m.
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Post by: pomonaalum on March 02, 2008, 01:45:38 PM
Sagehens start off conference play with a sweep of Oxy, and  should go to 6-0 with Cal Tech up next, before the long spring snowbird tourney break...
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Post by: Browneagle64 on March 03, 2008, 12:40:56 AM
Congrats to the hens on very dominant wins over my Tigers this weekend.  I expect my Tigers to rebound from these big loses.

Anywho, Congrats to the Leo's in taking the first two away from the Who during their weekend series. Btw, apparently both team's still have to make up a game that ended early (due to night fall and no lighting for Hines field) and in dramattic fashion (12- 12 tie)  The Leo's should round out by beating the who later in the season.
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Post by: Browneagle64 on March 04, 2008, 03:33:24 PM
Hey folks,

After sweeping "the who" this weekend La Verne looks to stay on a hot streak by taking on a really good pup ball club. This should indeed be the SCIAC series of the weekend and should give us a taste of who will be leading the SCIAC this year. 

Speaking of leading in the SCIAC, so far my surprise team (the poets of Whitter) has slowly been getting victory with their bats. Congrats to them and hope that they can keep this up.


btw, Congrats to the tigers for rebounding and winning two games against La Serria.
Here's this weeks SCIAC games:

Friday
Cal St. San Marcos   Cal Lutheran   2:00 PM   
   
   Pomona-Pitzer   Caltech   2:30 PM   
   
   La Verne   Redlands   3:00 PM   
   
   Whittier   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 
---------------------------------------------------
Saturday.
Mar. 8 

Caltech   Pomona-Pitzer   11:00 AM   
   
   Redlands   La Verne   11:00 AM   
   
   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   Whittier   11:00 AM   
   
   Occidental   Chapman   1:00 PM   
   
   Caltech   Pomona-Pitzer   2:00 PM   
   
   Redlands   La Verne   2:00 PM   
   
   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   Whittier   2:00 PM   
   
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Post by: Just_Some_Guy on March 08, 2008, 01:31:03 PM
Big SCIAC series vs. quite possibly the two best teams in the SCIAC this year, The Redlands Bulldogs vs. The La Verne Leopards.

The Redlands were up 12-5 through 6, but then relenquished 6 runs over the final three frames - holding on to win 12-11.

Nolan Nicholson (5-0, 2.08 ERA) had been virtually untouchable, but did give up 4 ER in 6 IP against the Leos. The bullpen wasn't particularly effective, but held on for the victory.

La Verne's starter Ryan Rose gave up 5 ER in 3.1 IP and suffered the loss (or should have - I don't understand the box score as Correa never threw a pitch).

Matt Goldstein (.536) and Brian Schumaker (.490) stayed hot for the Bulldogs.

Goldstein went 2-4 w/ 1 2B, 1 3B, 2 runs and 3 RBIs.
Schumaker went 2-3 w/ 1 2B, 2 runs and 1 RBI.
Corey Vane and Jefre Johnson 2 runs and 2 RBIs a piece.

The Leo's were led by Dmitri Mondotte (3-4),  Scott Marcus (2-5 w/ 3 runs & HR), and Mike Moretti (2-6, 3 RBIs).

I wouldn't be shocked if the Leopards swipe both today though. They just seem to be a lot deeper on the mound, but the Redlands offense never takes its foot off the gas so we'll see how that affects the Leo's staff.

JSG

 
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Post by: Browneagle64 on March 08, 2008, 04:55:31 PM
Ahh. Great win for the Pups. Just when a Leo come back seemed possible, the early runs allowed made the difference.
However, according to a classmate, After three innings today the Leo's were leading the pups in the first game. Hope i get more updates, as the SID at U.L.V seems to always procrastinate updating their site.

Oh, btw, congrats to the Poets for slamming the stags 13-3. As expected this surprise team will cause havoc when the race for the SCIAC really starts to heat up. 
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Post by: Just_Some_Guy on March 09, 2008, 03:32:01 AM
Redlands take 2 of 3 from La Verne this weekend.

Box Score One (http://www.ulv.edu/athletics/data/stats-pdf/base030808g1.HTM)
Box Score Two (http://www.ulv.edu/athletics/data/stats-pdf/base030808g2.HTM)

The Redlands have a great offensive team and this was a HUGE series for them, but they don't need to get comfortable. They need to work to find more pitching because Nicholson can't pitch every game in a tournament sitation. McCarthy was good enough for the win today.

As for La Verne, Sweet was pretty decent again, but needs to get to where he can go longer in games. Wheatley and Wilfong remain very solid out of the pen.

La Verne is probably better suited for tournament play (ala a West Regional), but without a conference tournament they probably need to win their conference. It should be a tight race between Redlands, La Verne and Pomona.

I could see the Redlands losing a game 3 (due to their lack of depth on the bump) to teams they should probably beat and allowing the window of opportunity to remain open.

JSG
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Post by: Browneagle64 on March 10, 2008, 01:05:56 PM
Talk about a good series. Wow, from the stats and what i heard from classmates, it looks like both teams came to play saturday. As i predicted, this series was indeed going to be huge for both ball clubs in their race for the SCIAC crown.
Let's just hope and see if both of these clubs will do well this week during the always though California Classic.

Speaking of the C.A. classic, how about this for a prediction: Pomona loses to Ithaca, Rutgers-Newark and to Frankin & Marshall as well. I know, i know, i should be rooting for the SCIAC school's, but lets be honest here: so far the hens haven't played really good teams. If they wanted to be ranked higher then these games should be the determining factor. Not a 27-o blowout of the beaves. 

Btw, the Poets will take their game away from Mass.-Dartmouth this week as well.
It should be fun to watch several of these games. Especially with this awesome surf-like weather that we down in so. cal are currently experiencing. I'll definately be attending the Ithaca v.s Leo game and the 2nd game between Wesleyan  (Conn.) and oxy this week.


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Post by: Browneagle64 on March 11, 2008, 02:24:42 PM
Congrats to the Hens on their 9-1 win against Ithaca College. So far, my prediction about the Hens losing to Ithaca was completely wrong. However, i will still hold my prediction that Rugters-Newark and F & M beat the Hens.
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Post by: Browneagle64 on March 11, 2008, 10:59:23 PM
Great job to the men in orange and black in taking advantage of Ithaca college's big mistake's during today's game at the Rock. That's the 2nd time this year that the tigers have beaten a ranked team.

Here's a summary: from the Tiger website.
Teamwork, confidence and the will to win came into play today as the Tigers of Occidental College defeated # 21 Ithaca College 14-10 on Anderson Field today. The teams combined for 24 runs on 29 hits in a battle of the bats.

Oxy jumped out to a 3-0 first inning lead as Seth Goss singled to lead it off followed by a successful hit-and-run by shortstop Case Miyahira. Oxy added a pair more but quickly saw that lead turn into a deficit as the Bombers tagged Tigers starter Noel Banuelos for six second inning runs.

With runners at first and second with one out in the fourth Jason Jebbia made a diving stop and flipped it to Miyahira at second for a force out, saving a run. With runners on the corners Suzuki forced a ground ball to second where Jebbia again flipped the ball to Miyahira for the final out of the inning.

Occidental's defense continued to shine in the top of the fourth when Andersen used his speed in the outfield to track down a fly ball, ending the inning with a diving catch in shallow centerfield to cap off a 1-2-3 inning by freshman Kris Suzuki.

The Bombers added to their lead in the sixth with a two RBI single to right by shortstop Josh Smith adding to the lead.

Trailing by four the Tigers pushed three runs across in the bottom part of the inning. Jebbia led off with a double off the centerfield wall and Sarkissian hooked a ball just  inside third base down the left field line, scoring Glenn Gray who reached on a single. Jebbia and Goss, who was hit by a pitch, both scored as well pulling the score to 9-8.

Ithaca added a run in the seventh and threatened for more, but Miyahira made another spectacular play at short to end the inning, catching a line-drive doubling up the runner at first base.

Occidental continued to claw back, scoring a pair in the bottom of the eighth to knot the game at 10-10. They then batted around in the eighth. Again Sarkissian led off with a double down the line, almost identical to the first. Veihl drove him in with a bases loaded single to keep the bags full of Tigers. Goss then connected for a bases clearing triple to center to give the Tigers a 14-10 advantage going into the ninth.

Kieran Doherty closed out the game to record his first collegiate victory as a Tiger. He struck out two and scattered three hits, allowing no runs in 2.2 innings of work. Suzuki went 3.0 and fellow freshman John Clair threw 1.1 innings, striking out three.

Goss finished the game 3-4 with four RBIs and three runs. Sarkissian finished 3-5 with two RBIs and a run. Andersen, Jebbia and Adam Franks each collected two hits today. Gray drove in three and scored twice for Oxy. 

Occidental was aggressive and effective on the base paths today. Goss stole second twice while Jebbia, Andersen, Ball and Richie Veihl each swiped a bag as well.

The Tigers (6-9) defeated a nationally ranked team for the second time this season. Oxy beat Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference foe # 18 Redlands earlier this year.

Ithaca starter Nick Sottung threw 5.2 innings, allowing eight runs on eight hits while striking out five. He hit four men and issued one walk.

Beginning on Friday the Tigers will host the California Classic along with the other SCIAC schools. Oxy will play a pair against Wesleyan on Friday beginning at 11:00 a.m
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Post by: Browneagle64 on March 12, 2008, 05:04:07 PM
Hey Folks,

Ithaca will be playing the Leo's tomorrow afternoon with their game slated at 2:30pm. (Sorry, i jumped a day ahead. That's what having to work on a term paper, getting ready for midterms and little of sleep can do. I'm heading out there for classes and will update you guys on the outcome still ( since most of the SCIAC school's and probabiliy their SID's are out for spring break and could careless about updating us on the game. hahah, just kidding). Best of luck. The leo's take this game away by three touchdown's, as Mr. JMac over on the empire 8 board would say.  ;D
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Post by: Browneagle64 on March 13, 2008, 02:42:10 PM
Tomorrow's schedule for all SCIAC school's.

Mar. 14  Wesleyan (Conn.)   Occidental   11:00 AM   

California Classic Tournament game   
   Puget Sound   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   2:30 PM   
    Ithaca   Redlands   2:30 PM   
California Classic   
   Cal Lutheran   Menlo   3:00 PM   
   
Wesleyan (Conn.)   Occidental   3:00 PM   

California Classic Tournament game   
   Mass.-Dartmouth   Whittier   3:00 PM   
California Classic   
   Rutgers-Newark   Pomona-Pitzer   3:00 PM 

Btw: SCIAC game of the Weekend will be on Sunday Mar. 16 between the Co-SCIAC champs and 07' DIII world series champ Kean U.
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Post by: Browneagle64 on March 13, 2008, 10:41:55 PM
Congrats to the Leo's on their big win against a struggling Ithaca College team today at Ben Hines Field. I got a chance to catch the game during the 6 inning, 7th and 8th inning and saw the Leo's making hits and runs that were need to reach their final score of 9-5. SS Jack Mehl (for the Leo's) is indeed good. This guy has some good defensive skills, a rocket launcher for an arm and good batting skills.
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Post by: Browneagle64 on March 14, 2008, 05:57:29 PM
Quick update on this mornings games' between Oxy v.s. Wesleyan (Conn.) and Menlo v.s. Cal Lu.

After 9 innings of play Oxy loses to Wesleyan by a score of  12 to  4. In addition, Cal Lu  drops a tough 7 inning game to the Oaks by a score of 1 to 2.

I'm heading to the Rock in an hour to check game two of the series. I hope that the Tigers learn from their mistakes and take at least this game away from Wesleyan. 
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Post by: cawcdad on March 16, 2008, 02:12:20 AM
In the first game today the CLU pitching staff got rouged up for 7 runs in a 7 inning game. In one of the gutsier moves I've seen the Oaks had the bases loaded and 2 outs and tried a squeeze play. The ball rolled foul.

In the second game Alex Casillas silenced the Menlo bats when he threw a no hitter. He was dominating, mixing his pitches well with tremendous location and kept Menlo off balance all afternoon. Paul Hartman simply crushed the ball with a first inning homerun.

Pictures should be up tomorrow.
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Post by: cawcdad on March 16, 2008, 12:35:20 PM
Pictures from the Cal Lutheran at Menlo (http://www.pictureprints.net/albums.php?gallery=2137) games are posted.

Great form from Alex Casillas (http://www.pictureprints.net/albums.php?gallery=2137&photo=0232).
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Post by: Browneagle64 on March 16, 2008, 06:54:38 PM
Great Pics Cawdad. Cal Lu always seems to have good pitchers every year as your pictures can prove. However, i'm not sure what's happing to their bats.
Here's an update from yesterday scores:
   
California Classic Tournament   
   Puget Sound  5  Redlands  14  Final   
California Classic   
   Kean  6  La Verne  1  Final  Boxscore  Recap   
   Rutgers-Newark  2  Whittier  8  Final - 9 innings   
California Classic   
   Cal Lutheran  15  Menlo  0  Final   
   
   Kean  11  La Verne  8 
   Rutgers-Camden  3  Occidental  10  Final - 9 innings  Boxscore  Audio   
   
   
   Mass.-Dartmouth  5  Redlands  19  Final - 7 innings 

And yes congrats to the tigers and all the teams who won big games yesterday
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Post by: cawcdad on March 16, 2008, 08:27:57 PM
Browneagle, CLU has at least one good stick in Hartman (http://www.pictureprints.net/albums.php?gallery=2137&photo=0202). Picture is right before the HR. He hit the ball hard each time besides the roundtripper and he's only a sophomore. He had a couple of wicked foul balls that went right to where I took pictures from near third base. I'm glad on each occasion I shooting from near first. ;D

Looks like the Oaks are headed south this week. I get to see some good teams the next couple of weekends, George Fox at East Bay and then Linfield at East Bay

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Post by: Browneagle64 on March 17, 2008, 09:33:05 AM
Thanks to D3baseballfan in supplying us with info about the Panther (co-sciac champs) v.s. Kean (2007 d3world series champs) game.

here's the end result:

Orange, Calif. (3/16/08) - Chapman Junior Kurt Yacko (Costa Mesa, Calif.) had 4 hits and recorded six RBI as #1 Chapman University defeated #10 Kean University, 19-2, Sunday evening at Hart Park. Yacko singled twice, doubled and tripled.

Chapman Wayde Kitchens pitched five innings giving up 2 runs on 2 hits.

Chapman Travis Cross pitched 4 scoreless innings.

Chapman Ryan Hall also had 4 hits 3 RBI's and scored 4 runs.

Chapman John Semel had a 3 run home run along with a single for 3 RBI's

http://www.keanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2007-08/stats/bb0316.htm

Chapman's record is 15-2 for the season
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Post by: Browneagle64 on March 17, 2008, 09:35:35 AM
Congrats to the Tigers in Pounding U.P.S by a score of 14 to 6. Great to hear that the boys in orange and black wont give in despite previous loses.
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Post by: pomonaalum on March 17, 2008, 08:32:48 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on March 11, 2008, 02:24:42 PM
Congrats to the Hens on their 9-1 win against Ithaca College. So far, my prediction about the Hens losing to Ithaca was completely wrong. However, i will still hold my prediction that Rugters-Newark and F & M beat the Hens.

Well,

3/14 PP 17 Rutgers-Newark 6
3/15 PP 12 F&M 10
3/16 PP 11 Rutgers-Camden 1
3/16 - PP 4 EConnSt 1

I would say that's a pretty damn good weekend of out-of-conference wins.  PP now 15-3 overall, and maybe will get at least 1 vote in the next poll...
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Post by: Browneagle64 on March 18, 2008, 12:13:36 PM
Yea, I know, I know, the hens did have a good weekend. Congrats for their wins. However, lets see how they do against teams like La Verne, Redlands,Whitter and Chapman. 
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Post by: pomonaalum on March 18, 2008, 10:43:11 PM
Should be very interesting...obviousy the Hens have only played Oxy and Cal Tech, but we've seen that Oxy can knock off one of the big boys.  Just like last year, I expect it to come down to the final game again.  The wins out of conference are great, but the Hens still need to win SCIAC unless the NCAA takes 3 teams (2 SCIAC and Chapman) from SoCal.

- ULV already has 2 losses to Redlands, and one more to finish again CLU.
- Redlands has those 2 wins against ULV, but also a loss to Oxy.
- CLU has a loss to CMS.
- Whittier has 2 losses to CMS.

To me, the key to winning SCIAC is to sweep Oxy, CalTech and CMS.  The 3-game series format gives you very little room for error in tie-breakers against the top teams.
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Post by: Browneagle64 on March 20, 2008, 03:09:37 PM
Congrats to the Leo's on their strong win against a weak S.D. Christian. I know, I know, S.D. has a weak team, but a win is a win.

As for other SCIAC games that where played across the southland, here's the results for those game:   

Kean  9  Redlands  6  Final  Boxscore  Recap   
   
Eastern Conn. St.  21  Whittier  5  Final - 9 innings 
Kean  25  Whittier  9  Final 
Looks like ECSU and a very good kean team took advantage of the exhuasted Poets. Even though the scores seem all lopsided, we all have to understand that this poet team has been on fire for the past three + weeks and should not give up on them just yet. Look for this team to rebound fast and learn from their mistakes.

Today's remaing games are as follow
Wesleyan (Conn.)   Cal Lutheran   11:00 AM   
California Invitational   
   Mass.-Dartmouth   Cal Lutheran   2:30 PM   
California Invitational   
   Rutgers-Camden   Whittier   2:30 PM   
California Invitational   
   Rutgers-Newark   Redlands   2:30 PM   
California Invite   
   Eastern Conn. St.   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   2:30 PM   
California Invitational   
   Principia   Occidental   3:00 PM 

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on March 22, 2008, 11:14:59 AM
Hens are now 18-3, winners of 16 straight going into today's game.  Huge series next weekend with Redlands...actually, pretty much all huge from here on out with Redlands, LaVerne, CMS, Whitter and CLU all still left on the schedule.  Can't see any team running the table in SCIAC - 17-4 or thereabouts should be enough to win.  Think PP was 16-5 last year and won the tiebreaker to win the conference.
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Post by: Browneagle64 on March 22, 2008, 02:34:05 PM
Good observations P.A.

Indeed the hens will get tested next weekend by the likes of La Verne, the Dawgs, a strong Whitter team and of course the Who. By the end of next week i suspect that the hens will have lost 7 games. It should be fun to keep track of.

by the way, here's yesterday's results
Mar. 21 
Wesleyan (Conn.)  12  Pomona-Pitzer  14  Final   
California Invitational Tournament game   
   Rutgers-Camden  13  Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  12  Final   
California Invitational   
   Menlo  12  Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  11  Final   
California Invitational   
   Frank. & Marsh.  8  Cal Lutheran  10  Final  Boxscore  Recap   
California Invitational   
   Mass.-Dartmouth  2  Whittier  15  Final - 7 innings   
California Invitational   
   Eastern Conn. St.  10  Redlands  9  Final   
California Invite   
   Rutgers-Newark  7  Pomona-Pitzer  8  Final   
   
   Rutgers-Camden  2  La Verne  12  Final - 7 innings   
   
   Wesleyan (Conn.)  1  La Verne  11  Final - 7 innings   
California Invitational Tournament game - game played at Azusa Pacific
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Post by: Browneagle64 on March 22, 2008, 05:17:05 PM
Here's some early morning results from D.H. games being played across the south land. Big congrats to the Poets on their shut out of the oaks. 

Mar. 22 
Menlo  0  Whittier  18  Final - 7 innings   
   Frank. & Marsh.  3  Redlands  4  Final   
   Mass.-Dartmouth  5  Pomona-Pitzer  14  Final   
   

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Post by: Browneagle64 on March 24, 2008, 12:47:37 PM
Thanks for the Report Bob.

I was expecting the men in orange and black to at least sweep this series away from Westmont (since in the past we have had great success against them) but was wrong. I really hope that they bounce back from this sweep and learn from the costly errors that they committed.
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Post by: Browneagle64 on March 24, 2008, 12:57:18 PM
Wow, what a Big week in SCIAC baseball we have.

First off, The pups of UOR will test the hens and really see if in fact the hens are the real deal. Second, The leo's and Poets go at it in what seems to be a game that can really hurt both teams quest to stay on top of the SCIAC standings. Both teams come in with good/ decent records and are both worthy to put on a great show. This series will definately be won by the Leos.
And finally, the "Who" and the Tigers battle it out in what always turns out to be an interesting day at the park. Last year, Oxy swept the Who and are eager yet again repete the same results. However, as we all know the who has a good pitching staff that is suddently now being backed up by their bats. Look for this series to be interesting.

btw, on Sunday (and out of a coincedence) with the BOSOX in town to take on my Dodgers (can't wait to go to that game) Cal Lu will be taking on the Lancaster, CA Jethawks at  2:00 PM   (Red Sox Single-A Advanced Team ). It should be a fun game to hear about.
Go Dodgers....Oops i meant Go Tigers ;D 
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Post by: pomonaalum on March 24, 2008, 07:16:22 PM
Seems to me that the burden is on Redlands to prove they are the real deal, since the Hens are the defending champs (and return most of their team)
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Post by: Browneagle64 on March 25, 2008, 11:23:39 AM
Hum... let us just wait until this match up is over and see who exactly was more ready. Last time i heard both the Pups and Leo's return most of their team that made last years SCIAC race interesting.  I am sure both ball clubs (The Leo's for sure and even the Pups will be ready to strike the Champs down.)
By the way, be ready when your hen's play the SCIAC Co- Champs on 4/18/08-19/08

Speaking of SCIAC baseball: Congrats to Cal Lu pitcher  Alex Casillas on recently being name SCIAC athlete of the week.
The sophomore pitcher tossed just the ninth no-hitter in Cal Lutheran history on Saturday at Menlo College (3/15/08) and the first since 1999. He threw 124 pitches and struck out six Oaks en route to a nine inning complete game shutout victory.  In doing so, Casillas picked up his third win of the year. He is currently holding opponents to a .194 batting average through 32.2 innings and is maintaining a 3.31 earned run average through six games. 
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Post by: Browneagle64 on March 25, 2008, 12:14:18 PM
Btw P.A., as you may have already noticed, eventhough i'm not rooting for the hens, i must at least give a "Congrats" to your ball club for cracking the first ABCA Division III poll of the season. Let's just hope that the ABCA took "Quality wins" into consideration as they determined to place the hens at #25.

F.Y.I: According to this weeks D3baseball polls, the Hens are ranked #23 while the dawgs are #24. Again, this week's game's between both ball club should be interesting.     
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Post by: DIIIBASEBALLFAN on March 28, 2008, 04:46:54 AM
Mar. 28 Fri. Claremont @ Chapman 3 p.m. (Hart Park, Orange CA)

Mar. 29 Sat. Chapman @ Claremont 11 AM (Doubleheader)
 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 29, 2008, 12:41:36 PM
Congrats to the men in orange in black for their win against "the who" yesterday afternoon. As expected, this series started off in favor of the tigers and can only get better if the boys stay focus, produce more runs, play better defense and do not commit to many errors. As a result, Oxy takes both games away from the Who today.

F.Y.I here's the results from all other SCIAC school's:

  Mar. 28 
Occidental  10  Cal Lutheran  5  Final   
   
   Redlands  5  Pomona-Pitzer  6  Final (This series will indeed be a real tight battle)   
   
   La Verne  6  Whittier  7  Final  (My surprise team takes one away from a good leo team. However, the Leo's take both games away from the Poets today.)   
   
   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  2  Chapman  12 (The SCIAC co-champs are just too good and have the better team. This series definately goes to the #1 team in the country)
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Post by: Browneagle64 on March 29, 2008, 03:59:55 PM
Thanks for the insight Bob. Btw, F.Y.I Tigersports is currently broadcasting today's game between the Tigers and the who. At the top of the 7th Matt Anderson is one base with a double. Haven't heard the entire score but apparently are down.
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Post by: Browneagle64 on March 29, 2008, 04:01:38 PM
ehhh. Wow, correction. The who is up by 8 in the 7th with a score of 11 to 3.   
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Post by: DIIIBASEBALLFAN on April 01, 2008, 02:55:06 AM
Chapman(20-2) take three from Claremont

Kurt Yacko looked like he has regained his hitting stroke and Wayde Kitchens pitched another outstanding game. Freshman pitcher Jordan Sigman and Senior Ryan Clear also continue to pitch well. Chapman is hitting well, playing great defense and getting good pitching.

Chapman University 8, ClaremontMuddScripps 6 (Mar 29, 2008 at Claremont)
BOX SCORE
http://www1.chapman.edu/athletics/07-08/baseball/cu-cms2.htm

Chapman University 11, ClaremontMuddScripps 3 (Mar 29, 2008 at Claremont)
BOX SCORE
http://www1.chapman.edu/athletics/07-08/baseball/cu-cms1.htm

Chapman University 12, Claremont MS College 2 (Mar 28, 2008 at Orange, CA)
BOX SCORE
http://www1.chapman.edu/athletics/07-08/baseball/cms-cu.htm
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Post by: Browneagle64 on April 01, 2008, 12:14:36 PM
Thanks for the updates D3Fan.

It was expected that the hotest team out in the west was going to give the stags a run for their money. Of course, after having a talented pitching staff and a crew that backs up their pitchers, the panthers always seem to walk away with strong victories. So congrats to them on a clean sweep of the stags this weekend.

Btw, congrats to both the hens and Pups for putting on a great show at "the yard" and out in Pomona. From what i hear, both ball clubs played extremely well and left all their energy on the field. Great job to both teams.

And yes, i can't leave out Oxy's solo victory on Friday against the Who. However, not to sure about why the boys came out flat on saturday.

Finally, i think we should all watch out for the Poets this month. This club is starting to catch on fire and seems to be creeping up the SCIAC race as usual without anyone noticing. Therefore, expect to hear them playing tough and winning more ball games against teams like the hens. (hahaha)

Here's this past weekends results:
Mar. 29 
Cal Lutheran  14  Occidental  3  Final 
   
   Pomona-Pitzer  1  Redlands  0  Final   
   
   Whittier  2  La Verne  3  Final   
   
   Chapman  11  Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  3  Final   
   
   Caltech  3  Simpson  12  Final   
   
   Cal Lutheran  6  Occidental  4  Final - 9 innings   
   
   Pomona-Pitzer  3  Redlands  6  Final   
   
   Whittier  11  La Verne  14  Final   
   
   Chapman  8  Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  6  Final   
   
   Caltech  3  Simpson  7  Final   
   

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Mar. 30  Cal Lutheran  0  Lancaster Jethawks  14  Final - 7 innings   
Red Sox Single-A Advanced Team 
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Post by: Browneagle64 on April 04, 2008, 05:22:34 PM
Happy Friday to all ;)

I hope all of you are ready for some SCIAC baseball this weekend.
So Cal. weather forecasters are calling for warm weather, bright blue skies and no chance of rain what so ever.  8)
(Note: see Tooth or D O.C on the SCIAC football board for the surf report).

Anywho's, here this weekends match ups for your consideration:

Apr. 4  Cal Lutheran   Redlands   3:00 PM   
   
   Caltech   La Verne   3:00 PM   
   
   Pomona-Pitzer   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   3:00 PM   
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Apr. 5  Redlands   Cal Lutheran   11:00 AM   
   
   La Verne   Caltech   11:00 AM   
   
   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   Pomona-Pitzer   11:00 AM   
   
   Cal St. San Marcos   Occidental   1:00 PM   
   
   Redlands   Cal Lutheran   2:00 PM   
   
   La Verne   Caltech   2:00 PM   
   
   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   Pomona-Pitzer   2:00 PM 


I'll be attending one of La Verne's D.H against the Beaves, since Cal Tech is not that far away from "Casa de B.E.". After that, I'll be heading over to the Rock to see the men in orange and black walk away with a victory against Cal State San Marcos. 
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Post by: Browneagle64 on April 05, 2008, 01:37:19 PM
From last nights SCIAC action, here's the results.
By the way, congratulations on the Stags on winning a strong game against the SCIAC Co-champs yesterday.

Apr. 4  Cal Lutheran  5  Redlands  8  Final   
   
   Caltech  3  La Verne  29  Final   
   
   Pomona-Pitzer  2  Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  8  Final - 9 innings 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DIIIBASEBALLFAN on April 07, 2008, 01:21:51 PM
Apr. 10 Thu.  La Verne @ Chapman 3 PM
Apr. 11 Fri.    Chapman @ La Verne 3 PM
Apr. 12 Sat.  La Verne @ Chapman 1 PM


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Post by: DIIIBASEBALLFAN on April 10, 2008, 11:43:19 PM
Chapman  4  La Verne 0

Chapman's junior RHP Wayde Kitchens went the distance, throwing Chapman's first complete game shutout of the year, a three-hitter.

Kitchens improved to 4-0 in his fourth start since coming back from a shoulder injury. The right-hander struck out six in the game, including striking out the side in order in the ninth, on his way to his sixth career complete game and third shutout.

PRESS RELEASE
http://www.chapman.edu/athletics/pressReleases/bb04102008.asp
Game stats available online: http://www1.chapman.edu/athletics/07-08/baseball/ulv-cu1.htm

Wayde Kitchens
Season Stats
ERA 0.27 
W-L 4-0   
Innings 33.2
Strikeouts 29 
Opposing Bat AVG .120     




   

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 11, 2008, 12:25:26 AM
Wow, those are video game numbers.  Looks like he might have a pretty fresh arm going into the regional.....assuming Chapman makes it ;D

Is his arm 100% healthy?  The article says he is coming back from injury.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: doctor K on April 11, 2008, 01:01:44 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 11, 2008, 12:25:26 AM
Wow, those are video game numbers.  Looks like he might have a pretty fresh arm going into the regional.....assuming Chapman makes it ;D

Is his arm 100% healthy?  The article says he is coming back from injury.
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This Chapman team have everything it takes to make it all the way to Appleton.  :)
Wayde has fully recovered and is 100%.  I guess sleeping all night on his shoulder might have actually helped the team.  It has given them depth in their pitching rotation and from previous post, this is where their weakness was.
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Post by: doctor K on April 11, 2008, 08:49:45 PM
Chapman takes Game 2 from La Verne 4-2. This makes it the Panther's 17th consecutive win--an accomplishment only made by the 1999 season.
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Post by: DIIIBASEBALLFAN on April 12, 2008, 11:57:04 AM
Chapman vs La Verne

The University of La Verne baseball team dropped the first two games of a three-game weekend series against the nation's top-ranked team, falling 4-0 to Chapman University Thursday before suffering a 4-2 setback to the Panthers on Friday.

The Leopards (17-12-1) fell behind 4-0 to Chapman in Friday's game but got on the board in the sixth on a Mike Moretti solo homer. The Leos plated another run in the inning when Jon-Michael Hattabaugh reached on a error, advanced to third on a Kent Longnecker single, and stole home to slice the deficit to 4-2.

ULV would get no closer as it managed just two hits in the final three innings and ended the game on a double play.

Chapman got its first three runs in the third inning on a Matt Pearson homer followed by an RBI triple from Yacko and an RBI triple from Mike Vass.

Ryan Clear earned the victory allowing two runs on three hits in six inning of work. Kurt Yacko worked three scoreless innings to get the save. For La Verne, Jesse Sweet pitched six innings allowing three earned runs in the defeat.

ULV was held to just three hits in the 4-0 defeat the previous day in Orange as Wayde Kitchens silenced the Leopard bats in the complete game win. Chapman has won 17 straight games as it continues to hold the #1 spot nationally in Division III.

The series concludes Saturday with a 1 pm start at Hart Park in Orange.

BOX SCORES
http://www.ulv.edu/athletics/data/stats-pdf/base041108a.HTM

http://www.ulv.edu/athletics/data/stats-pdf/base041008a.HTM



Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on April 13, 2008, 09:20:37 AM
PP sweeps Whittier, now 13-2 in SCIAC play going into next weekend's non-league games against Chapman.  If I were Pomona's coach, I would think about not throwing my best pitchers against Chapman, especially Colvin whom has never faced them.  Sure it'd be nice to win some for bragging/seeding rights, but PP's chances to make the NCAAs probably don't rest on the outcome of this series and they've been mostly winning with their bats anyways.  Chapman's in for sure, and unless 2 teams from SCIAC make it, the Hens need to take care of business in the two remaining SCIAC series...and if they made it to Regionals, would likely see Chapman.

PP concludes with a series against a struggling CLU team, then a huge showdown against LaVerne.

- PP is 13-2 and owns the tie-breaker with Redlands.
- Redland is 11-4, with Whittier and CMS left, and owns the tiebreaker with ULV.
- ULV is 8-3 with Oxy, CMS and PP left, plus 1 to finish against CLU.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: doctor K on April 13, 2008, 12:44:23 PM
Quote from: pomonaalum on April 13, 2008, 09:20:37 AM
PP sweeps Whittier, now 13-2 in SCIAC play going into next weekend's non-league games against Chapman.  If I were Pomona's coach, I would think about not throwing my best pitchers against Chapman, especially Colvin whom has never faced them.  Sure it'd be nice to win some for bragging/seeding rights, but PP's chances to make the NCAAs probably don't rest on the outcome of this series and they've been mostly winning with their bats anyways.  Chapman's in for sure, and unless 2 teams from SCIAC make it, the Hens need to take care of business in the two remaining SCIAC series...and if they made it to Regionals, would likely see Chapman.

PP concludes with a series against a struggling CLU team, then a huge showdown against LaVerne.

- PP is 13-2 and owns the tie-breaker with Redlands.
- Redland is 11-4, with Whittier and CMS left, and owns the tiebreaker with ULV.
- ULV is 8-3 with Oxy, CMS and PP left, plus 1 to finish against CLU.

Why not pitch your best pitcher?  Why give Chapman 3 games automatically - they are an Independent and nothing is written in stone that they will go to regional's.  After the PP series all the rest of their games (7) are on the road – 4 in Northern Calif and then  3 in Dallas to end their season.   

Chapman plays Cal State East Bay (Indep) Saturday 4/26, a double-header Sunday (4/27) against Menlo (Indep?), and then Monday (4/29) Sonoma State.  Then they turn around and leave 3 days later for Dallas (Indep).  These last games are what will help determine Chapman's chance.  These teams are  in their league (except Sonoma State which is a DII) and would love to get a win against them.

Is PP gets a win against Chapman it has to have some type of merit since Chapman is ranked 1 in the nation.  IF PP ties Redlands and owns the tie-breaker with Redlands does the NCAA look at any other criteria?  Remember Redlands took one from Chapman
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 13, 2008, 01:53:26 PM
Doctor K,

The 2008 Handbook has not been released, but Chapman's record versus West Region teams, against teams likely to be ranked in the West Region Rankings,  their won-loss percentage and the opponents winning percentage are likely to give them a Pool B bid.

I think that Chapman sweeps University of Dallas (which is a small private school in Irving TX and not the University of Texas at Dallas.)  The D3baseball.com/NCBWA ranking has nothing to do with the criteria for selection to the NCAA's.

My only question as the Sagehens' coach is whether I want Chapman to see my best pitcher now or possibly in the playoffs.

If one win over Chapman now pushes my meeting with Chapman to some more favorable part of the bracket in the West Region playoffs, then I consider how to use that pitcher.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on April 13, 2008, 02:37:26 PM
Quote from: doctor K on April 13, 2008, 12:44:23 PM
Quote from: pomonaalum on April 13, 2008, 09:20:37 AM
PP sweeps Whittier, now 13-2 in SCIAC play going into next weekend's non-league games against Chapman.  If I were Pomona's coach, I would think about not throwing my best pitchers against Chapman, especially Colvin whom has never faced them.  Sure it'd be nice to win some for bragging/seeding rights, but PP's chances to make the NCAAs probably don't rest on the outcome of this series and they've been mostly winning with their bats anyways.  Chapman's in for sure, and unless 2 teams from SCIAC make it, the Hens need to take care of business in the two remaining SCIAC series...and if they made it to Regionals, would likely see Chapman.

PP concludes with a series against a struggling CLU team, then a huge showdown against LaVerne.

- PP is 13-2 and owns the tie-breaker with Redlands.
- Redland is 11-4, with Whittier and CMS left, and owns the tiebreaker with ULV.
- ULV is 8-3 with Oxy, CMS and PP left, plus 1 to finish against CLU.

Why not pitch your best pitcher?  Why give Chapman 3 games automatically - they are an Independent and nothing is written in stone that they will go to regional's.  After the PP series all the rest of their games (7) are on the road – 4 in Northern Calif and then  3 in Dallas to end their season.   

Chapman plays Cal State East Bay (Indep) Saturday 4/26, a double-header Sunday (4/27) against Menlo (Indep?), and then Monday (4/29) Sonoma State.  Then they turn around and leave 3 days later for Dallas (Indep).  These last games are what will help determine Chapman's chance.  These teams are  in their league (except Sonoma State which is a DII) and would love to get a win against them.

Is PP gets a win against Chapman it has to have some type of merit since Chapman is ranked 1 in the nation.  IF PP ties Redlands and owns the tie-breaker with Redlands does the NCAA look at any other criteria?  Remember Redlands took one from Chapman

PP is definitely capable of taking games from Chapman...but Chapman's forte seems to be their pitching.  Seems that PP can compete with or without Colvin on the mound on the strength of the lineup.  I think Chapman is a lock.

As far as SCIAC, head-to-head is the 1st tiebreak criteria.  Not sure what happens in a 3 way tie.  I'd imagine that it would be easier than in basketball, since there is a clear winner between all teams in the regular season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DIIIBASEBALLFAN on April 13, 2008, 04:05:41 PM
of their opponents they play because of the bullseye on their back where everyone gets up and wants to beat a number 1 ranked team.

Baseball is a funny game where on a given day anyone can beat anyone.  The only number 1 rating that means anything is one after the last game of the season.

Noboday is ever a lock and has to compete day in an day out. Look at Long Beach State who was rated in the top 5 in D1. Went in the tank and went 1-10 recently.


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 13, 2008, 08:01:53 PM
In my honest oppinion I think Pomona should treat this just like any other series in the SCIAC.  They are likely going to get into the regional and will need to play for a seed.  There is a big difference going into the regional as the #2 seed or the #7 seed.  I have no idea what they would go in as, that will be determined by their finish in the SCIAC.

I still think La Verne has a shot of winning the SCIAC.  They showed in 2 of the games this weekend that they can pitch by holding Chapman to 8 runs over the 2 games and then got blasted but if both teams win out to that series, 2 out of 3 will take home the title.

Pomona's pitching seems odd to me.  They gave up a ton of runs to Claremont M-S who seems to be a pretty weak team.  Who knows????

Here is another question and I will post this one in the other areas-  If La Verne wins the SCIAC and George Fox wins the NWC, do either Pomona or Linfield make the tournament?  Both have very good records but I am not sure if the voters would put 2 teams from each conference in the tournament.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 13, 2008, 08:10:11 PM
One more thing...How hard is it to put up a box-score after a game?   The SCIAC as a whole is pretty bad at this.  There are times when I have looked for a box and it will not show up for 4-5 days.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on April 13, 2008, 08:39:31 PM
LV absolutely has a shot...will come down to the last weekend.  Last year, a late ULV loss gave PP a share of the top spot and the automatic bid due to head to head.  It will be interesting.  Not sure what to say about PP's pitching, except that Colvin didn't pitch against CMS.  PP managed 8 of 9 against Oxy, CMS and Whittier - to me, that's still the key to winning SCIAC.  The top teams will beat up on each other (PP, ULV, Redlands), but the key is not to slip too much against the bottom teams.

A PP sweep this coming week against CLU will make things tough for ULV.  Anything else, and it's down to the wire.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 13, 2008, 09:32:21 PM
Maybe the Claremont M-S series was jsut one of those weekends where the bats showed up a little more.

La Verne can't slip against Occidental or Claremont M-S.  Oxy seems like they have the potential to win a few games here and there but not compete the entire season.  They have beat some good teams and look to be one of those teams that is really tough to sweep.  Claremont sounds to be the same way.  Not great but not terrible.  Neither team can afford to slip up against any of the weaker teams in the SCIAC.  Only time will tell.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sagehenalum47 on April 13, 2008, 10:34:11 PM
pomona alum: actually, last year the late loss put PP 1 game ahead of la verne (16-5 vs. 15-6 in SCIAC), which was key since la verne beat PP 2/3 head to head.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DIIIBASEBALLFAN on April 14, 2008, 06:17:57 AM
Apr. 18  Fri.  Chapman @Pomona-Pitzer  3 p.m.
Apr. 19 Sat.  Pomona-Pitzer @ Chapman 11 a.m.(DH)

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: EastCoastStag on April 14, 2008, 10:27:55 AM
Excellent job Stags, taking 2-3 from Oxy this weekend. Good to see the bats out swinging strong.
For the last several years, CMS has seemed to have tremendous talent with the bats from Seminara and Cummins to Blomberg and Weber-Shapiro. Perhaps some stronger pitching and they could play with the best.
I'll be over in the East Bay watching next weekend. Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 14, 2008, 02:42:33 PM
Congrats to the stags on their recent win againt my Tigers. Geeze, i take a one week hiatus from work, head off to vacation and i come back to read that the men in orange and black lost to the stags. I really hope that the boys bounce back before the end the season on a sour note. (which i know will not happen)

Btw, congrats to the Hen's for sweeping the poets, i am sure both ball clubs did their best to out do one another.

As expected, the SCIAC race will come down to another nail biter between the hens and La Verne. Any let down by the hens within these next two to three weeks will indeed allow the Leo's to end up with the crown. Expect to see the leo's win more games after trying to beat the co-champs over the weekend on with their pitching staff and the hens dropping several against the Who and the panthers. It should be fun yet again to hear the results of these upcoming games.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on April 14, 2008, 03:27:47 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on April 14, 2008, 02:42:33 PM
Congrats to the stags on their recent win againt my Tigers. Geeze, i take a one week hiatus from work, head off to vacation and i come back to read that the men in orange and black lost to the stags. I really hope that the boys bounce back before the end the season on a sour note. (which i know will not happen)

Btw, congrats to the Hen's for sweeping the poets, i am sure both ball clubs did their best to out do one another.

As expected, the SCIAC race will come down to another nail biter between the hens and La Verne. Any let down by the hens within these next two to three weeks will indeed allow the Leo's to end up with the crown. Expect to see the leo's win more games after trying to beat the co-champs over the weekend on with their pitching staff and the hens dropping several against the Who and the panthers. It should be fun yet again to hear the results of these upcoming games.
The men in orange and black will be playing Oxy during the last week of the season.  That should give you something to look forward to. ;)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 14, 2008, 04:20:20 PM
It sure will Fox ;D. It will offically send all the Oxy seniors with wins and stories to tell their kids in the future. :P
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 16, 2008, 10:21:29 PM
Did Cal Tech really have to forefit a game against Redlands?  That is a shame and also wonder if it has anything to do with the fact Redlands put up over 50 runs in the first 2 games.  Not making accusations, just curious.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 16, 2008, 11:25:43 PM
Wait you didn't get the memo.

The entire beave team was summoned by J.P.L this past weekend to counter report a 13 year old's asteriod calculations hitting the Earth some time soon. That is why they had to forefit the game against the Pups. They were just worried about saving our lives  :P 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ECSUalum on April 17, 2008, 08:00:56 PM
Guys,  I have jumped over to the left coast from he LEC board.
This may have been discussed in the past but, with all due respect, what is the deal with CalTech???  ???

                        GP Record Win % PF PA   GP Record Win % PF PA Last 10
Pomona-Pitzer 15 13-2 0.867 166 61   31 26-5 0.839 298 149 8-2 
Redlands          15 11-4 0.733 137 74   34 23-11 0.676 325 182 8-2 
La Verne           11 8-3 0.727 124 52   30 17-13 0.567 244 156 6-4 
CMS                  15 9-6 0.600 144 89   31 13-16-2 0.452 265 234 4-6 
Whittier            12 5-7 0.417 109 92   31 12-18-1 0.403 251 273 3-7 
Cal Lutheran    11 4-7 0.364 70 76   29 10-18-1 0.362 152 187 2-7 
Occidental        12 3-9 0.250 58 105   29 11-18 0.379 196 235 3-7 
Caltech             15 0-15 0.000 15 274   20 0-20 0.000 34 345 0-10   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 17, 2008, 11:14:06 PM
ECSU-  Just take a look at the Cal Tech admission standards and that will say enough.  It is odd though, how Cal Tech and MIT can be sister schools but MIT can have some decent athletic teams and one killer black jack team with a smoking hot blonde on it......oh wait, she was only hot in the movie???

On a side note-  Cal Cal Tech finally win a game with the 2 other worst teams in the SCIAC left?  Yeah me either.  No matter how bad Cal Lutheran and Oxy might be there is no way Cal Tech can beat them.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ECSUalum on April 18, 2008, 11:53:04 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 17, 2008, 11:14:06 PM
ECSU-  Just take a look at the Cal Tech admission standards and that will say enough.  It is odd though, how Cal Tech and MIT can be sister schools but MIT can have some decent athletic teams and one killer black jack team with a smoking hot blonde on it......oh wait, she was only hot in the movie???

On a side note-  Cal Cal Tech finally win a game with the 2 other worst teams in the SCIAC left?  Yeah me either.  No matter how bad Cal Lutheran and Oxy might be there is no way Cal Tech can beat them.

JP,  Thanks for your response, and certainly understand admission standards.

just think that maybe they should go club baseball and SCIAC admit a team that  can provide some competition.

it is like SCIAC has allowed a low level high school team to participate in NCAA D-III Conference that has some pretty good teams associated with it.

However must be nice from a "run up the stats standpoint" for other SCIAC schools
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ECSUalum on April 18, 2008, 12:59:56 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on April 18, 2008, 12:09:21 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 18, 2008, 11:53:04 AM
just think that maybe they should go club baseball and SCIAC admit a team that  can provide some competition.

Apparently you don't get D-III sports in general or the SCIAC in particular. Caltech's mission regarding sports is clear. I'm proud to have them in the conference.

http://www.thesciac.org/information/about/index

http://www.athletics.caltech.edu/information/mission.html

OxyBob

OxyBob,

Stay cool, i was just asking a few questions:

Mission says:

purpose of promoting and governing competition in intercollegiate sports.

I just dont see how beating up on Caltech by double digit scores for the last 4 years or more is promoting competition.  ie is beneficial for the Conference or the students of Caltech, ( must be disheartening)

They could compete against teams at there level, have a true competitive environment and still attain the mission

I assure you I understand D-III Sports
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ECSUalum on April 18, 2008, 02:34:35 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on April 18, 2008, 02:17:17 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 18, 2008, 12:59:56 PM
Mission says:

purpose of promoting and governing competition in intercollegiate sports.

I just dont see how beating up on Caltech by double digit scores for the last 4 years or more is promoting competition.  ie is beneficial for the Conference or the students of Caltech, ( must be disheartening)

They could compete against teams at there level, have a true competitive environment and still attain the mission


It's useless to debate the issue with someone who defines competition by wins and losses. Caltech doesn't:

http://www.admissions.caltech.edu/living/athletics

QuoteCaltech Athletics are NCAA Division III Athletics as they were intended to be.

If you get a chance, try and catch a showing of Quantum Hoops, the documentary about the Caltech basketball team. Maybe then you'll get it.


"a group of young people who face formidable academic pressure and who value their sports experience for reasons that transcend winning. . . . Their lessons are learned . . . from teamwork, developing friendships, managing time, and turning the disappointment of frequent losses into a resolve to do better the next game." Caltech Athletics are NCAA Division III Athletics as they were intended to be. Anyone who wants to participate in sports is given the opportunity to do so.

got it!!  thanks for the clarification, I guess i have been embedded in the dog eat dog college baseball D-I,II,and in some cases D-III athletic experience too long.
OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: HALLEBASEBALL on April 18, 2008, 06:18:31 PM
Hats off to Students that play for the passion.  Quick story Scott Akamine Chapman "05" told  a scout who offered him free agent contract that he was going to Europe on a planned Graduation reward that he would go after he returned. Well we know what the club said. Scott returned from his trip and attended Pepperdine Law School. He graduaded "08" and is a Lawyer in So. Cal. It takes brains to make the right decision.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: HALLEBASEBALL on April 18, 2008, 06:27:04 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 18, 2008, 02:34:35 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on April 18, 2008, 02:17:17 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 18, 2008, 12:59:56 PM
Mission says:

purpose of promoting and governing competition in intercollegiate sports.

I just dont see how beating up on Caltech by double digit scores for the last 4 years or more is promoting competition.  ie is beneficial for the Conference or the students of Caltech, ( must be disheartening)

They could compete against teams at there level, have a true competitive environment and still attain the mission


It's useless to debate the issue with someone who defines competition by wins and losses. Caltech doesn't:

http://www.admissions.caltech.edu/living/athletics

QuoteCaltech Athletics are NCAA Division III Athletics as they were intended to be.

If you get a chance, try and catch a showing of Quantum Hoops, the documentary about the Caltech basketball team. Maybe then you'll get it.


"a group of young people who face formidable academic pressure and who value their sports experience for reasons that transcend winning. . . . Their lessons are learned . . . from teamwork, developing friendships, managing time, and turning the disappointment of frequent losses into a resolve to do better the next game." Caltech Athletics are NCAA Division III Athletics as they were intended to be. Anyone who wants to participate in sports is given the opportunity to do so.

got it!!  thanks for the clarification, I guess i have been embedded in the dog eat dog college baseball D-I,II,and in some cases D-III athletic experience too long.
OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on April 18, 2008, 06:33:49 PM
We came really close to losing to Cal Tech back when I was playing, maybe '96 or '97.  Anyhow, Tech had one pretty decent player who pitched against us, and we were down 2-1 much of the game.  I think we ended up winning 3-2 or 4-2, something like that.  That kid ended up making one of the All-SCIAC teams as a utility player.  That was the same year that we "set" an NCAA D3 record for most runs scored by a losing team (9 inning game)...final game of the year at Redlands, we maybe scored 10 or 11 in the 1st and ended up losing 28-27.

Edited for correct dates and info.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 19, 2008, 01:39:56 PM
Congrats to the SCIAC co-champs on their very strong victory (15-2) against the hens yesterday. As expected, the panthers showed us just why they are considered the best in the west and in the nation with this strong performance. Best of luck to the hens this afternoon as they both battle it out once again on the field.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on April 19, 2008, 04:39:33 PM
15-2 is quite a drubbing...but more important in the grand scheme of things for Pomona was Oxy beating ULV yesterday in game 1 of their series, giving ULV 4 losses now in conference.  Will be interesting to see what happens in the remaining two games, as well as with Redlands-Whittier (rain out yesterday?)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on April 19, 2008, 05:23:19 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 18, 2008, 12:59:56 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on April 18, 2008, 12:09:21 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 18, 2008, 11:53:04 AM
just think that maybe they should go club baseball and SCIAC admit a team that  can provide some competition.

Apparently you don't get D-III sports in general or the SCIAC in particular. Caltech's mission regarding sports is clear. I'm proud to have them in the conference.

http://www.thesciac.org/information/about/index

http://www.athletics.caltech.edu/information/mission.html

OxyBob

OxyBob,

Stay cool, i was just asking a few questions:

Mission says:

purpose of promoting and governing competition in intercollegiate sports.

I just dont see how beating up on Caltech by double digit scores for the last 4 years or more is promoting competition.  ie is beneficial for the Conference or the students of Caltech, ( must be disheartening)

They could compete against teams at there level, have a true competitive environment and still attain the mission

I assure you I understand D-III Sports
Caltech does well in other sports.  Baseball has the problem of needing pitchers.  In some past years they have had to not compete in a full SCIAC schedule because of a shortage.   Otherwise they would face a situation I read about in the LA Times this morning. A team in Japan finally had to forfeit when the pitcher reached 250 pitches and was still in the second inning. :o
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 19, 2008, 05:53:14 PM
Congrats to the Tigers on their win against the Leo's. On any other given day i would have pulled for the leo's, but, i'm glad my Tigers took this one away with a strong performance.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 21, 2008, 01:07:59 PM
Congrats to the stags on their big win against a very good Cal-State East bay team. I honestly thought the Pio's would have taken this game away from CMS, yet, was surprised that stags come out on fire. This result just shows us why no team should no be taken lightly by any opponent from here on out.( regardless of the team's current record. ehhhmmm, the Leo's against my Tigers this past friday.)


FYI: yesterday's scores

   Whittier  2  Redlands  3  Final   
   
   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  14  Cal St. East Bay  12  Final   
   
   Whittier  7  Redlands  8
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 21, 2008, 03:38:46 PM
Here is something else that happened over the weekend.  Cal Lutheran's Slimack picked up win #400.

http://www.clusports.com/baseball/news/4607/
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseballroxmysox on April 21, 2008, 04:14:13 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on April 21, 2008, 01:07:59 PM
Congrats to the stags on their big win against a very good Cal-State East bay team. I honestly thought the Pio's would have taken this game away from CMS, yet, was surprised that stags come out on fire. This result just shows us why no team should no be taken lightly by any opponent from here on out.( regardless of the team's current record. ehhhmmm, the Leo's against my Tigers this past friday.)


FYI: yesterday's scores

   Whittier  2  Redlands  3  Final   
   
   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  14  Cal St. East Bay  12  Final   
   
   Whittier  7  Redlands  8


Roger that eagle!!! This weekends game Chapman vs. P-P second game on Saturday in which P-P won HANDILY over the Panthers 6-1 was the result of some good pitching by the HAND of P-P or was it the left HAND or was it the right I am not sure :-\  on the other HAND woops there goes that pun again :D anyway the ball was jumping off the bat for the Panthers but it was always right at a defensive player and it seemed to go the other way for the hens they were finding the holes where someone wasn't, you could tell by the number of hits by Chapman. congrats Pomona P
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: beachlover on April 22, 2008, 12:18:25 AM
Looks like PP has the SCIAC championship well in hand.  Congratulations on another great season.  Interesting strategy against Chapman this weekend that paid off with a "W" against the D3's  #1 ranked team.   

Does the SCIAC traditionally only send one to the post season?   Don't know that LV or Redlands would get a look based upon records.  Just curious to hear from the experts.   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sagehenalum47 on April 22, 2008, 12:40:05 AM
baseballroxmysox,  i appreciate the puns  :P    I got a chance to drive down to orange to see saturday's doubleheader (dont know what happened friday- 15-2? I guess mandelblatt didnt have his good stuff??) and while game 1 was sloppy, it seemed to me PP could have won had they played like they normally do: they were up 5-2 and got a few bad hops, made a few mistakes and gave up a costly 3-spot right before yacko came in and shut them down. also drew hedman had 4 long warning track flyballs ( 2 in the first game and 2 in the second game, in addition to a HR in game 1) on a day where the wind was blowing in hard. all 5 would have been out at PP's field or if it was not windy. 1 of these balls was against yacko with a man on, when they were down 1. if that goes out, its a whole different ballgame.
      while chapman hit the ball hard at times in game 2, church pitched VERY smart. he recognized nothing was leaving the ballpark due to teh dimensions and the wind, and he used this to his advantage, letting his defense do the work for him.
      it should be an interesting last 2 weeks of the season and regional (hopefully for PP!)  ;)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 22, 2008, 12:14:58 PM
Don't get to ahead of your self beachlover. The hens still have games against two very good team's in "the Who" and the Leo's.
I can assure you right now that these games will be difficult from here on out because 1) these teams (the who and leo's still have fuel in their tanks and eager to prove their final points in conference play, 2) time is running out for seniors wishing to win more games and 3) the race for the crown betweem the pups, hens and even the leo's is NOT determined just yet. Like any other sport, anything can happen on any given saturday.
Don't be surprised if the "Who" knocks off the hens during game play this weekend. i am sure former Cal Lu star and current Rockies pitcher (even though he's on the 15 day DL) Jason Hirsch will make a surprise visit to his old stomping ground on friday to encourage his former school to go all out and win these last games. (And yes my Dodgers will beat Mr. Hirsch's current club this weekend :P)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: beachlover on April 22, 2008, 11:00:32 PM
Thanks Browneagle.  Guess I'm a rookie at these things.    ???

Just seems like P/P is in control, but as they say... any team on any given day.   Looking at the schedule, is it usual for many teams to have 6 conference games left ( most of the SCIAC) and two teams (Redlands/CalTech) only have 3?

Next two weekends should produce some great games.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 22, 2008, 11:22:06 PM
Quote from: beachlover on April 22, 2008, 11:00:32 PM
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Just seems like P/P is in control, but as they say... any team on any given day.   Looking at the schedule, is it usual for many teams to have 6 conference games left ( most of the SCIAC) and two teams (Redlands/CalTech) only have 3?
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The SCIAC (http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2007-08/schedule) has 11 weekends for the conference to play seven 3-game series.

Redlands and Cal Tech have played 6 of the seven series thru last weekend.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: gatekeper43 on April 24, 2008, 12:18:32 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 22, 2008, 11:22:06 PM
Quote from: beachlover on April 22, 2008, 11:00:32 PM
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Just seems like P/P is in control, but as they say... any team on any given day.   Looking at the schedule, is it usual for many teams to have 6 conference games left ( most of the SCIAC) and two teams (Redlands/CalTech) only have 3?
...
The SCIAC (http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2007-08/schedule) has 11 weekends for the conference to play seven 3-game series.

Redlands and Cal Tech have played 6 of the seven series thru last weekend.

With P-P's win at Chapman last weekend what are Chapman's chances of being dethroned over the next 2 wekend's? now that there is a kink in there armor with there lack of a third starter is this a sign of old Chapman that only really have two bonifide starters. i realize that Sigmond is 7-1 but can the freshman hold his own?
   I guess that with enough of this high powered offense behind him he will do just fine. I see Chapman going to the end with the three starters and Yacko closing the door. I would love to have that problem as a coach.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseballroxmysox on April 24, 2008, 04:18:39 PM
Quote from: sagehenalum47 on April 22, 2008, 12:40:05 AM
baseballroxmysox,  i appreciate the puns  :P    I got a chance to drive down to orange to see saturday's doubleheader (dont know what happened friday- 15-2? I guess mandelblatt didnt have his good stuff??) and while game 1 was sloppy, it seemed to me PP could have won had they played like they normally do: they were up 5-2 and got a few bad hops, made a few mistakes and gave up a costly 3-spot right before yacko came in and shut them down. also drew hedman had 4 long warning track flyballs ( 2 in the first game and 2 in the second game, in addition to a HR in game 1) on a day where the wind was blowing in hard. all 5 would have been out at PP's field or if it was not windy. 1 of these balls was against yacko with a man on, when they were down 1. if that goes out, its a whole different ballgame.
      while chapman hit the ball hard at times in game 2, church pitched VERY smart. he recognized nothing was leaving the ballpark due to teh dimensions and the wind, and he used this to his advantage, letting his defense do the work for him.
      it should be an interesting last 2 weeks of the season and regional (hopefully for PP!)  ;)

How long does it take PP to post the box score (play by play) for Friday's game?  It's still not up.  PP had 2 HARD hits to RT field.  The first one went to RT-Center and Mike Vass (chapman) jumped-hit the wall and was able to hold onto the ball for the out.  The next inning another one was hit (not as deep) to RT -Vass caught it,  then dropped it.  PP scored it as a hit, but it was clearly an error.  Was it Drew Hedman??
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 24, 2008, 06:19:44 PM
GateKeper43-  I do not see Chapman being dethroned over the next few YEARS.  Yes they lost one to Pomona but they crushed them once and beat them in what sounds like it was a pretty good game.  Chapman will beat CSU-East Bay, they will sweep Menlo, and it really doesn't matter what they do vs. Sonoma St. since they are D-II.  I also do not see Chapman having any problems in Dallas next weekend.

Pomona does not exactly have the easiest road to the SCIAC title.  They still have Cal Lutheran for 3 and even with Cal Lutheran having a terrible year, they can still beat them.  Next weekend they have La Verne and I personally think La Verne will beat them 2 of 3.  Of course none of this matters if La Verne doesn't win all 3 this weekend.  We will see what happens.  I guess you really can't count Redlands out either, although I think they are pretty average.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 24, 2008, 06:30:02 PM
RoxMySox-  I will give my input on the SID situation in the SCIAC....not very good.

Pomona is usually a few days behind on putting box-scores up.  They do an ok job of putting the scores but the boxes are sometimes tough to come by.
Claremont and Whittier are pretty lazy with the boxes too.  I thought you just had to upload them from a program ???
La Verne and Cal Lutheran are pretty good and Oxy was good most of the season but all of the sudden they are getting pretty lazy too.  In fact, I checked the OXY site today and there was nothing past the friday game vs. La Verne and now there is a story on the whole weekend but it is dated 4/19.  Pretty lame if you ask me.  Oh well, jsut my $.02 worth.

On a side not, I should say that getting box scores from the other schools when you are a visitor might be part of the problem.  Who knows.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on April 24, 2008, 07:10:24 PM
Yeah, there is an automated scorebook program that makes things pretty easy - for baseball and other sports as well.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 24, 2008, 08:26:28 PM
Not easy enough I guess.  I thought those schools were full of smart people ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sagehenalum47 on April 24, 2008, 09:54:44 PM
roxmysox,
       I didnt make it to the PP chapman game on fri, so I didnt see the play you were talking about, but from my days as a player there, i can tell you that the official scorer is NOT the scoreboard operator. the scoreboard operator is a random person employed by the school for student employment that often doesnt know anything about baseball, and routinely messes up counts, outs, even the score  ;D. so just because they score something a hit or an error doesnt mean the PP official scorer does. plus, you seem a bit skeptical about hedmans stats. its hard for a scorer to give someone undeserved home runs  :P
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: oldcat on April 25, 2008, 01:00:14 AM
Hedman is legit. One of the best hitters of the year that Chapman has faced. Even if he didn't play at that short porch, he still would have at least 12 bombs. If the wind wasn't blowing in on the DH against Chapman, he would of had 4 bombs. His only weakness is the fastball up and away, he likes to pull the ball. A lot of swings and misses on the outside part of the plate but bring that ball anywhere over the plate or inside and he will crush the ball.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: chakote on April 25, 2008, 11:33:22 AM
Quote from: sagehenalum47 on April 24, 2008, 09:54:44 PM
roxmysox,
       I didnt make it to the PP chapman game on fri, so I didnt see the play you were talking about, but from my days as a player there, i can tell you that the official scorer is NOT the scoreboard operator. the scoreboard operator is a random person employed by the school for student employment that often doesnt know anything about baseball, and routinely messes up counts, outs, even the score  ;D. so just because they score something a hit or an error doesnt mean the PP official scorer does. plus, you seem a bit skeptical about hedmans stats. its hard for a scorer to give someone undeserved home runs  :P

sagehenalum----
I don't think that sox was questioning any of the homeruns that Hedman hit or has hit I think that it is more of a dropped ball by Mike Voss in right field after his great catch; Mike had his hand on the ball and it bounced in his glove twice before he dropped it. The official score keeper gave him a hit when in fact it was a error. Mike made a great catch before that play and ran into the fence and was shaken up a bit, I think that Mike's subconscience new the fence was geting close on the Hedman hit and he dropped what looked like a routine play.

Everyone knows that Hedman can hit and hit for power, as well as for average, the shots at Hart Park on Saturday were definitly bombs that were almost dead center and the fence is at 392'; Hedman hit the ball each time 391' but they were line shots that would have been off the batters eye in dead center.
In my opion I think that they would have bounced off the fence if they were hit any further. BUT definitly some great shots that would be out in any other park without a fence that deep. The wind was holding the ball up in left and in center. Any ball hit to right was getting pushed foul or down.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseballroxmysox on April 25, 2008, 08:52:31 PM
Quote from: sagehenalum47 on April 24, 2008, 09:54:44 PM
roxmysox,
       I didnt make it to the PP chapman game on fri, so I didnt see the play you were talking about, but from my days as a player there, i can tell you that the official scorer is NOT the scoreboard operator. the scoreboard operator is a random person employed by the school for student employment that often doesnt know anything about baseball, and routinely messes up counts, outs, even the score  ;D. so just because they score something a hit or an error doesnt mean the PP official scorer does. plus, you seem a bit skeptical about hedmans stats. its hard for a scorer to give someone undeserved home runs  :P

Sorry Sagehen – I didn't mean to ruffle any hen feathers :)

I was trying to find out if Hedman was the one that hit one of those hard hit balls to RT.  Without the play by play, I couldn't tell who hit them.  I was hoping to jog someone's memory by explaining the plays. 

Riddle solved (Chapman has the play by play posted)  It looks like it was Silva and Joannides that made those hits.  So it looks like Hedman has some teammates that can hit some rockets also.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: beachlover on April 25, 2008, 11:17:30 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on April 22, 2008, 12:14:58 PM
Don't get to ahead of your self beachlover. The hens still have games against two very good team's in "the Who" and the Leo's.
I can assure you right now that these games will be difficult from here on out because 1) these teams (the who and leo's still have fuel in their tanks and eager to prove their final points in conference play, 2) time is running out for seniors wishing to win more games and 3) the race for the crown betweem the pups, hens and even the leo's is NOT determined just yet. Like any other sport, anything can happen on any given saturday.
Don't be surprised if the "Who" knocks off the hens during game play this weekend. i am sure former Cal Lu star and current Rockies pitcher (even though he's on the 15 day DL) Jason Hirsch will make a surprise visit to his old stomping ground on friday to encourage his former school to go all out and win these last games. (And yes my Dodgers will beat Mr. Hirsch's current club this weekend :P)

Browneagle - any chance you are going to vegas or buying a lottery ticket?   prediction was spot on today.   i'm learning..... let's wait and see, anything can happen. 

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sagehenalum47 on April 26, 2008, 12:31:27 AM
should in an interesting last 5 games. the sagehens need to step it up! ;D  this team has been pretty resiliant but they are going to need a sweep the double header tomorrow to stay in control of the SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 26, 2008, 12:38:07 AM
Looks like Hedman dropped another bomb but it wasn't enough.  Rough 8th inning for the Sagehens!  This makes things a lot more interesting in the SCIAC race.  I don't think Pomona can afford another loss, especially with La Verne next weekend.  Should be an exciting finish to the SCIAC race.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on April 26, 2008, 09:18:18 AM
The continuation of the tied 12-12 game between CLU and ULV could come into play, big time, as well. 

Best Pomona can go into the final series is 15-3.  Best ULV can go in is 14-4.  Under those circumstances, ULV winning of 2 of 3 would make them the champ, as ULV would own the head-to-head tiebreak.

There are a number of scenarios where Redlands, already sitting at 14-4, could get in as well.  If Redlands, with 3 games left with CMS, finished at 17-4, they own the tiebreak with ULV but not PP.  Things could get even more interesting if PP or ULV lose any more games this weekend...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 26, 2008, 03:15:08 PM
pomonaalum-  You said it.  If either of the teams playing were to lose any more games this weekend it will hurt them big time.  The one thing I do see as a possibility is a 3-way tie.  Wouldn't that be interesting!  I am not going to even try and figure out what they would do if that were to happen.  Anyone have ideas on how they would/could settle a 3-way tie?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on April 26, 2008, 09:52:34 PM
looks like CLU plalyed spoiler, and swept PP in the twin-bill today, sweeping the series.  Pretty surprising.  PP drops to 13-5 in conference.   From the scores, the 'Hens pitching abandoned them.  Redlands is 14-4, and is 12-4 pending the completion of the final game of their series with CMS.   PP needs to sweep ULV next weekend and hope that Redlands drops 1 to CMS, a pretty tough order.  There's always the possibility of a Pool C bid, but losing 5 of 6 is not a good way to go into the final weekend of the season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 26, 2008, 10:29:24 PM
Wow, that is not something many people thought would happen.  Congrats to Cal Lutheran, but what happened to Pomona?  Sounds like they might have been looking ahead to La Verne next weekend.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 26, 2008, 11:08:01 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 26, 2008, 10:29:24 PM
Wow, that is not something many people thought would happen.  Congrats to Cal Lutheran, but what happened to Pomona?  Sounds like they might have been looking ahead to La Verne next weekend.

Like i mentioned before, these teams will do anything they can to beat up on any one as the season gets closer to the end. That's the beauty of sports. Anything can happen on any given day. And yes, beach lover, i can assure you now that the Hens will lose against a good Leo team , who by the way, played the SCIAC co-champs much closer then anyother team in the nation. It should be a great SCIAC game to watch. I'll be at that game next week after i handle some business on the U.L.V campus.

(btw, apparently as i am reading this post out here in  I.E. at the site of the Coachchella festival..looks like my Dodgers are pounding Mr. Hirsch's team 10 to 2 in the 2nd inning.
I think i just might make a long drive to vegas tonight and see how my luck goes there.  :P) Hope all of you have a great weekend.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: beachlover on April 26, 2008, 11:52:25 PM
I'll readily admit that my previous post was much too premature, especially considering the games that were played this weekend between P/P and CLU.   And hats off to Cal Lu with a sweep, including two at P/P's home field today.   

What a final week for the SCIAC.  Three teams battling for the championship and CMS in a huge spoiler role.   And, if I'm understanding the tourney projections from the "national topics" board, looks like the SCIAC will probably only get one post season invite.

Wow.



Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseballroxmysox on April 27, 2008, 12:47:38 AM
It looks like La Verne takes both games of CMS - here are the games highlights from their website:

"Leopards Rally To Earn Sweep Over CMS (04-26-2008)

The University of La Verne baseball team earned a sweep over Claremont-Mudd-Scripps by defeating the Stags 13-12 and 18-6 in come-from-behind fashion Saturday at Ben Hines Field.

The two wins along with ULV's 9-3 road triumph over CMS on Friday gave the Leopards a three-game weekend sweep to stay in the hunt for a conference championship.

Things didn't look promising in Saturday's opener as the Stags scored five times in the top of the first inning, tallied four more in the third and eventually led 11-3 in the fourth.

Down eight runs, the Leopards struck back with five runs in the bottom of the fourth and four runs in the sixth to tie the contest at 12-12 heading into the final three innings. A pair of two-run singles from Scott Marcus and Jon-Michael Hattabaugh highlighted the Leopard fourth while a three-run triple from Trevor Boucher was the big blow in the sixth inning.

La Verne completed the comeback in the bottom of the ninth when Ryan Jordan doubled home Jason Munoz, who scored from first base to give the Leopards its first and only lead of the game.

The duo of Allen Komori and Jimmy Wilfong held CMS scoreless over the final 4 2/3 innings with Wilfong picking up the win.

In the second game, the Stags again grabbed an early advantage, holding leads of 2-0 and 5-2 before the Leopard offense seized control in the latter stages.

CMS homered four times in the game and opened with back-to-back blasts from Travis Nishioka and Andrew Blomberg to stake the visitors to a 2-0 lead. Blomberg later hit a three-run shot in the fifth to put the Stags up 5-2.

The Leopards countered with five runs in the sixth inning to take the lead for good as Jordan, Mehl and Kalankiewicz tallied RBI singles to tie the game at 5-5. Marcus drove in a run on a sacrifice fly and was followed by Hattabaugh who hit an RBI double to give the Leos a 7-5 advantage.

CMS cut the lead to 7-6 but would get no closer as the Leopards batted around in the bottom of the eighth with 11 runs on 6 hits. A double from Boucher drove in two runs to stake ULV to an 11-6 lead. With the game in hand, Marcus would blast a three-run homer estimated at 430 feet, giving him his 13th on the season to close the scoring. Marcus finished with a game-high 5 RBI.

Grant Wheatley worked five innings in relief to earn his second win of the season.

La Verne closes the regular season with a crucial three-game set with Pomona-Pitzer. The Leopards entertain the Sagehens Friday at Ben Hines with the final two games slated for Saturday in Claremont".

Boy -  the SCIAC be a nail bitter next weekend ;D 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on April 27, 2008, 09:37:16 AM
Tough weekend for the 'Hens.  Looks like they had bases loaded and none out in the bottom of the 9th in game 1, trailing 7-6, after scoring two already in the inning to get within one.  But a line-out and a DP ended the game.  'Hens were up big early in game and lost...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 27, 2008, 02:17:24 PM
I just looked at the box scores for the Pomona-Cal Lutheran series and it is very interesting to see a pitching staff that has been really good all year got knocked around the park all weekend.  I think Cal Lutheran had close to 50 hits in the 3 games and scored 37 runs.  Not what Pomona had in mind.

WHat is the situation with tie-breakers and all that.  I am sure many of you know more about how it all works and who beat who earlier this season.  I think someone mentioned it earlier but look how important the La Verne/Cal Lutheran suspended game just might become :o
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseball998 on April 28, 2008, 01:34:30 AM
WOW this is definitely getting spicy. I am so0o0o0o0o0o excited for this coming weekend. ;D Great to see competitive baseball in the Southern California region.
Hats off to all of the teams playing hard and bustin balls.

Good Lord only knows what is to happen next.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 28, 2008, 12:58:55 PM
Indeed it will be a great weekend for all SCIAC teams that are in the hunt for the SCIAC crown. Just like last year, just when everyone was expecting for one team to claim the crown 4 weeks prior to the season ending, we all witnessed a great outcome from the hens. However, in this case, the best prepared team (i.e. the team who's pitching staff comes out of the bullpen throwing sound/ controlled pitches and has their bats working in their favor to produce runs) will walk away with a victory.

Therefore, i'm going to have to go with La Vern walking away with a strong sweep over the hens. (and yes, i know it will not be any easy sweep over the SCIAC co-champs, as the hens will be coming out of the gate swinging and doing their best to stay alive in the SCIAC hunt for the crown. It should be fun. )     
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 28, 2008, 02:20:59 PM
Just for your information, Cal Tech's baseball team played La Sierra in a very close game (final score was La Sierra 8, beaves 7) yesterday.

Congrats to the Poets on their sweep over my Tigers this week. I hope that the men in orange and black end on a positive note instead of on a losing streak.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on April 28, 2008, 07:11:02 PM
From what I can tell, these are the possible scenarios.

For Redlands to win it all:
Redlands sweeps CMS
Redlands wins 2 of 3, PP Wins 2 of 3
Redlands wins 2 of 3, ULV Wins 2 of 3
Redlands wins 1 of 3, ULV Wins 2 of 3 from PP, but loses to CLU

For ULV to win it all:
ULV sweeps PP and beats CLU, Redlands wins <3 against CMS
ULV sweeps PP but loses to CLU, Redlands wins <2 against CMS
ULV takes 2 of 3 from PP and beats CLU, Redlands wins <2 against CMS

For PP to win it all:
PP Sweeps ULV, Redlands win <3 against CMS
PP Wins 2 of 3 against ULV, Redlands wins <2 against CMS

That's what I can figure out...I don't think the tiebreaker scenarios should be that complicated, because all teams will have head-to-head records against each other.  For the record:

PP owns the tiebreak against Redlands
Redlands owns the tiebreak against ULV
PP and ULV to be determined
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 29, 2008, 12:49:21 PM
Thanks for the break down P.A.,

Should be an interesting weekend for all the SCIAC teams that are in the hunt for the now elusive SCIAC crown.

By the way, here's a cool piece (or should i say Q & A for you old folks) on U.L.V senior Scott Marcus who has helped paved the way for the Leo's to have another successful campaign in 08'. His leadship and desire to end on a high note will indeed help his teammates understand that a SCIAC crown in La Verne is possible.  http://www.ulv.edu/athletics/teams/feature.phtml?story_id=67&u_id=5     (http://www.ulv.edu/athletics/teams/feature.phtml?story_id=67&u_id=5)   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 29, 2008, 08:06:50 PM
Does anyone have any predictions for this weekend?  I am going to change my thoughts from a few weeks ago and say Redlands wins it.  I am thinking La Verne will win 2 of 3 from Pomona.  I feel like this because Pomona was exposed big time this past weekend.  I realize they have had a great year but Cal Lutheran saw something and took advantage.
Redlands will win the first 2 and struggle with the 3rd game like they have most of the year.  Although Redlands doesn't get a whole of attention on here I honestly think they have the title in their hands and its theirs to lose.  If La Verne ends up winning the SCIAC I still think Redlands has a good shot at a pool C.  They were behind Pomona in the regional rankings and they had to have gone in front of them after the past weekend.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: beachlover on April 29, 2008, 10:09:36 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 29, 2008, 08:06:50 PM
Does anyone have any predictions for this weekend?  I am going to change my thoughts from a few weeks ago and say Redlands wins it.  I am thinking La Verne will win 2 of 3 from Pomona.  I feel like this because Pomona was exposed big time this past weekend.  I realize they have had a great year but Cal Lutheran saw something and took advantage.
Redlands will win the first 2 and struggle with the 3rd game like they have most of the year.  Although Redlands doesn't get a whole of attention on here I honestly think they have the title in their hands and its theirs to lose.  If La Verne ends up winning the SCIAC I still think Redlands has a good shot at a pool C.  They were behind Pomona in the regional rankings and they had to have gone in front of them after the past weekend.

Well, I looked silly with predictions a few weeks ago, so I'll stay away from a repeat performance.

Pomona dropped to 24 in the rankings this week; Redlands received 8 votes. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on April 29, 2008, 11:49:24 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 29, 2008, 08:06:50 PM
Does anyone have any predictions for this weekend?  I am going to change my thoughts from a few weeks ago and say Redlands wins it.  I am thinking La Verne will win 2 of 3 from Pomona.  I feel like this because Pomona was exposed big time this past weekend.  I realize they have had a great year but Cal Lutheran saw something and took advantage.
Redlands will win the first 2 and struggle with the 3rd game like they have most of the year.  Although Redlands doesn't get a whole of attention on here I honestly think they have the title in their hands and its theirs to lose.  If La Verne ends up winning the SCIAC I still think Redlands has a good shot at a pool C.  They were behind Pomona in the regional rankings and they had to have gone in front of them after the past weekend.

A second SCIAC team would be tough.  If PP wins 2 or 3 games this weekend but doesn't win SCIAC, I think they have an outside shot at a bid, based on their record and some impressive wins outside of conference.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 30, 2008, 01:12:15 AM
Quote from: pomonaalum on April 29, 2008, 11:49:24 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 29, 2008, 08:06:50 PM
Does anyone have any predictions for this weekend?  I am going to change my thoughts from a few weeks ago and say Redlands wins it.  I am thinking La Verne will win 2 of 3 from Pomona.  I feel like this because Pomona was exposed big time this past weekend.  I realize they have had a great year but Cal Lutheran saw something and took advantage.
Redlands will win the first 2 and struggle with the 3rd game like they have most of the year.  Although Redlands doesn't get a whole of attention on here I honestly think they have the title in their hands and its theirs to lose.  If La Verne ends up winning the SCIAC I still think Redlands has a good shot at a pool C.  They were behind Pomona in the regional rankings and they had to have gone in front of them after the past weekend.

A second SCIAC team would be tough.  If PP wins 2 or 3 games this weekend but doesn't win SCIAC, I think they have an outside shot at a bid, based on their record and some impressive wins outside of conference.

I would say the only team that would get a shot without winning the SCIAC would be Redlands.  Pomona losing 3 key region games this late in the season to a team under .500 really hurts them.  Who knows, Pomona could still win it outright.
Title: Completion game - La Verne vs Cal Lutheran
Post by: beachlover on May 01, 2008, 12:33:21 AM
Early season game between La Verne and Cal Lu ended as a tie.  I thought I read that it was scheduled to be completed this week.  Anyone know that results and/or when it will be played.  It could come into play with things so tight in the SCIAC. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 01, 2008, 04:19:10 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 29, 2008, 08:06:50 PM
Does anyone have any predictions for this weekend?  I am going to change my thoughts from a few weeks ago and say Redlands wins it.  I am thinking La Verne will win 2 of 3 from Pomona.  I feel like this because Pomona was exposed big time this past weekend.  I realize they have had a great year but Cal Lutheran saw something and took advantage.


J.P. that's a good question that you brought up. My final predicition for this weekend is that the Leo's Sweep the hens and claim the SCIAC crown. Why??? Well because 1) the Leo's have a pitching staff that is not running out of gas, as the hen's pitching/ and bull-pen can attest to that, 2) these guys ?(the leo's that is) had a better chance at winning two games out of three against the best team in the nation/west when both ball club played one another and 3) I see the Leo's drawing the line here and showing us why they need to  be considered the #1 team in the SCIAC after showing a strong pitching and offense performace v.s. the hens. In the end, all i have to say is that the leo's sweep the hens.  :P 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sagehenalum47 on May 02, 2008, 04:03:23 AM
"the team who's pitching staff comes out of the bullpen throwing sound/ controlled pitches and has their bats working in their favor to produce runs) will walk away with a victory."

Wait, I'm confused! Are you saying that the team that scores more runs and gives up less will win?!?!?!?Thank you for your incredible insight, browneagle! and its hard to take you seriously when you predict PP to lose the last 26 games.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 02, 2008, 11:52:23 AM
Quote from: sagehenalum47 on May 02, 2008, 04:03:23 AM
"the team who's pitching staff comes out of the bullpen throwing sound/ controlled pitches and has their bats working in their favor to produce runs) will walk away with a victory."

Wait, I'm confused! Are you saying that the team that scores more runs and gives up less will win?!?!?!?Thank you for your incredible insight, browneagle! and its hard to take you seriously when you predict PP to lose the last 26 games.

Your welcome Newbie..... I understand that the small insight that i provided may not be the greatest and what you may have expected, but, let's face it's my opinion.
And of course, it's all good if my opinion would not be taken seriously when i predicted that PP loses the last 26. However, if the hens were considered to be  that good then why in the heck did they just finish getting swept by a struggling Cal Lu team??? Are you sure the hens easy schedule (first half of the season that is) makes them crediable to be a Top team in the D3 baseball. My two cents: Maybe not.
Indeed, i have given your team credit for every win through out the season, however, this is were it ends. The Leo's will win this weekend's SCIAC series of the week. Best of luck to your former club Newbie, and please hope that your former team is still not hung over after the mess that "the Who" created against them last weekend.   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: chakote on May 02, 2008, 11:59:16 AM
Quote from: sagehenalum47 on May 02, 2008, 04:03:23 AM
"the team who's pitching staff comes out of the bullpen throwing sound/ controlled pitches and has their bats working in their favor to produce runs) will walk away with a victory."

Wait, I'm confused! Are you saying that the team that scores more runs and gives up less will win?!?!?!?Thank you for your incredible insight, browneagle! and its hard to take you seriously when you predict PP to lose the last 26 games.
the team with the most runs win?? I wonder what would happen if the team with the least amount of runs loses wait I am confused. Hen the reson PP is  not winning is because they have pitchers that don't know what arm to use when they are on the bump!!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sagehenalum47 on May 02, 2008, 02:29:12 PM
browneagle, while they did play a somewhat easy schedule in the first part of teh season, you are not taking into account the injuries they have sustained since the first half. kand didn't play last weeked for some reason, and he has been hitting some cleanup for them. dunlap, an all league pitcher last year, has been hurt. they werewithout league player of the year mandelblatt's bat since mid march. however, according to my sources all 3 are coming back this weekend. so PP will be at full strenght and this team will not go down easy. look for a little deja vu this weekend!

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 02, 2008, 04:23:03 PM
Quote from: sagehenalum47 on May 02, 2008, 02:29:12 PM
browneagle, while they did play a somewhat easy schedule in the first part of teh season, you are not taking into account the injuries they have sustained since the first half. kand didn't play last weeked for some reason, and he has been hitting some cleanup for them. dunlap, an all league pitcher last year, has been hurt. they werewithout league player of the year mandelblatt's bat since mid march. however, according to my sources all 3 are coming back this weekend. so PP will be at full strenght and this team will not go down easy. look for a little deja vu this weekend!


In that case Newbie.......... Let's wait just wait and see. Only 3 hrs. 45 mins. until game 1 of the best SCIAC baseball series this weekend. 8)
Title: Re: Completion game - La Verne vs Cal Lutheran
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 02, 2008, 09:05:24 PM
Quote from: beachlover on May 01, 2008, 12:33:21 AM
Early season game between La Verne and Cal Lu ended as a tie.  I thought I read that it was scheduled to be completed this week.  Anyone know that results and/or when it will be played.  It could come into play with things so tight in the SCIAC. 
Welcome beachlover!  :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseballroxmysox on May 02, 2008, 10:12:03 PM
Fridays results:

Redlands takes the win over CMS
La Verne takes the win over PP

What does this do to SCIAC standings????
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 02, 2008, 10:46:10 PM
Congrats to the Leo's over their 1st win against the SCIAC co-champs this afternoon. Only two more games left and soon the SCIAC champs will be determined.

As for what does this do to the SCIAC standing??? Let's just wait until tomorrow afternoon to ask that question. It's to early to determine the SCIAC co-champ. ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on May 03, 2008, 07:06:46 AM
Believe that Redlands magic number is 1 with PP, 2 with ULV.

In other words, if Redlands wins out its over.  If Redlands splits today, ULV would have to sweep PP and beat CLU in the continuation to win.  PP needs to sweep ULV and have CMS sweep Redlands today...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 03, 2008, 08:33:30 PM
Outstanding Job by the stags today against the Pups. According to the SCIAC website, the stags won against the pups by a score of :Redlands  18  Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  23.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on May 03, 2008, 10:10:49 PM
Congrats to ULV, SCIAC champs.  Swept the Hens, and CMS took 2 of 3 from Redlands.  The final of the CLU-ULV game doesn't matter, as ULV is 16-4, and Redlands finishes at 15-6.  Hens really faded down the stretch, losing their final 6 in SCIAC play, and 8 out of 9 overall...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: EastCoastStag on May 03, 2008, 10:21:47 PM
Offensive show at Redlands today. Nice job Stags to finish off the season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 03, 2008, 10:52:38 PM
I have Redlands in-region at 20-8.  15-6 in the SCIAC.

West Region wins:  TLU x 3, Chapman, UPS
West Region losses:  Chapman x2.

La Sierra is only year-2 provisional, so those games do not count this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: beachlover on May 03, 2008, 11:12:54 PM
Congratulations to La Verne 2008 SCIAC Champions.  What an exciting year for the SCIAC to come down to the final Saturday's games.    This is a very competitive conference with several very good teams.

Good Luck LV in the tourney.   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 04, 2008, 10:38:14 PM
Holy cow what a finish in the SCIAC.  Claremont M-S really screwed Redlands over this weekend, Pomona screwed themselves in the past 2 weeks and La Verne took care of business.  Pomona drops from a Pool A bid to 4th place in 6 games, yikes :o
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 05, 2008, 11:12:15 AM
What a finish indeed J.P.

Great job to the Leo's and co. on their very strong performance on friday and saturday. This team truly came into the weekend looking to take care of business and walked away with a time of their lives on the sandlot.
I hope this attitude from the Leo's can be carried over to the West regional's so that they can represent the SCIAC during the big dance. Best of luck. 

btw, here's a link from the U.L.V website summarizing the big weekend's event:
  http://www.ulv.edu/athletics/teams/newsitem.phtml?u_id=1771&sport=5                 (http://www.ulv.edu/athletics/teams/newsitem.phtml?u_id=1771&sport=5)

Now back to finding a poster that is probabily eating some crow for my predicitions these past two weekend.  :P
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: beachlover on May 07, 2008, 12:23:21 AM
Has the SCIAC ever sent two teams to the playoffs? 

Not saying that Redlands merits consideration, but in conversation with some SCIAC folks over the weekend the general thoughts were that the SCIAC is a winners only conference when it comes to post season play.

Also wonder if the "veterans" think Chapman helps or hurts the SCIAC?  Heard some discussion that since Chapman is such a strong independent that consistently beats many of  the SCIAC teams, it hurts the conference.   Does a win against Chapman help a SCIAC team in rankings or post season consideration?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 07, 2008, 01:13:15 AM
I think that winning one of three from Chapman gets attention, but you cannot blow it in the regular season of the SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: beachlover on May 07, 2008, 01:20:02 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 07, 2008, 01:13:15 AM
I think that winning one of three from Chapman gets attention, but you cannot blow it in the regular season of the SCIAC.

Thanks Ralph.  I think I should have stated my question differently so that the connection to this year wasn't called into play since it's a moot point.   Regardless of this season, has the SCIAC ever earned two spots in the tourney? And, would winning or losing games against Chapman affect a potential post season invite for non-winners in the conference?

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 07, 2008, 08:35:06 AM
Quote from: beachlover on May 07, 2008, 01:20:02 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 07, 2008, 01:13:15 AM
I think that winning one of three from Chapman gets attention, but you cannot blow it in the regular season of the SCIAC.

Thanks Ralph.  I think I should have stated my question differently so that the connection to this year wasn't called into play since it's a moot point.   Regardless of this season, has the SCIAC ever earned two spots in the tourney? And, would winning or losing games against Chapman affect a potential post season invite for non-winners in the conference?
Under the Pool system, since about 2000, I do not think that the SCIAC has earned a Pool C bid.  I don't have time to look, but here is the link to the Playoff websites.

Playoffs (http://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/)

I really think that the SCIAC runner-up has about 1.5-2 in-region losses too many when the committee evaluates the 14 Pool C bids comparing across the nation.  If the team that is first up for the Pool C consideration had 1.5-2.0 fewer in-region losses, then they might have won the Pool A bid.  I think that that is how close the remaining 7 teams on the table were when they fell to Pool C, all across D3.

I really believe that the line is so fine, that the team lost a game that it should not have lost may be the game that keeps them out of Pool C.  (Like I said, 1.5-2.0 fewer losses.)  Pool C is where those teams that were going to win the conference in regular season fall and still make the playoffs, e.g., UT-Tyler or Wooster.

I think that the SCIAC is a very good conference.  It is so balanced at the top, that three teams were in contention for the Pool A bid in the last weekend of the season.  Thanks.  :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 07, 2008, 02:49:53 PM
Hey Beachlover, Ralph is correct, the SCIAC has never sent two teams (one via pool c) to the big dance since 2000. From my days as an undergrad at Oxy and as an avid tiger/SCIAC baseball fan, i have always witnessed that the only team out of the SCIAC that adavance to the big dance is always the SCIAC champs. Of course it would be awesome to send two of the top SCIAC teams to represent at the regional, however, as already mentioned the in-regions losses really hurt any SCIAC teams chances of reaching that big stage. Imagine sending the 01' Cal Who team with the 01' Pomona team, or the 02' Cal who team with La Verne/ or the Hens (by now you guys should know who was in Cal Who strong pitching rotation)

 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: beachlover on May 07, 2008, 11:57:56 PM
Thanks Ralph and Browneagle.  It seems that the SCIAC is always very competitive with one or two wins separating the first and second place teams.   To the winners go the spoils.  ;)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: beachlover on May 08, 2008, 11:48:11 PM
So, Redlands is ranked #5 in the regional rankings today; La Verne is not ranked.  Is it usual for the conference champ not to be ranked?  I know Redlands took 2 of 3 head to head, but it seems unusual to me, but what do I know?  (That was rhetorical, no need to answer).     

Are there any implications for post season play for Redlands?  I had assumed the Bulldogs/SCIAC were totally out of it.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2008, 12:13:36 AM
Quote from: beachlover on May 08, 2008, 11:48:11 PM
So, Redlands is ranked #5 in the regional rankings today; La Verne is not ranked.  Is it usual for the conference champ not to be ranked?  I know Redlands took 2 of 3 head to head, but it seems unusual to me, but what do I know?  (That was rhetorical, no need to answer).     

Are there any implications for post season play for Redlands?  I had assumed the Bulldogs/SCIAC were totally out of it.
I think that Redlands will be on the table when the 14th bid is given.

Keep the faith!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 09, 2008, 02:23:25 PM
That would be some great news if indeed the pups are considered to join the Dance. When will this be determined Ralph?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2008, 02:35:10 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on May 09, 2008, 02:23:25 PM
That would be some great news if indeed the pups are considered to join the Dance. When will this be determined Ralph?
Sunday evening.  :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: beachlover on May 10, 2008, 10:56:52 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2008, 12:13:36 AM
Quote from: beachlover on May 08, 2008, 11:48:11 PM
So, Redlands is ranked #5 in the regional rankings today; La Verne is not ranked.  Is it usual for the conference champ not to be ranked?  I know Redlands took 2 of 3 head to head, but it seems unusual to me, but what do I know?  (That was rhetorical, no need to answer).     

Are there any implications for post season play for Redlands?  I had assumed the Bulldogs/SCIAC were totally out of it.
I think that Redlands will be on the table when the 14th bid is given.

Keep the faith!

Well, Ralph.  You're a minority who think they even have a chance, judging from what everyone in the tourney thread is predicting.  Redlands/SCIAC aren't even listed as being on the bubble.   ???
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: beachlover on May 10, 2008, 11:21:22 PM
Was just checking some of the regional ranking listings and commentary and saw that the West regional rankings were changed dropping Redlands off this list. 

What's up with this?  ???   ???  Looking for some veterans to explain this to a rookie?

Thanks. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 11, 2008, 09:46:56 PM
Quote from: beachlover on May 10, 2008, 11:21:22 PM
Was just checking some of the regional ranking listings and commentary and saw that the West regional rankings were changed dropping Redlands off this list. 

What's up with this?  ???   ???  Looking for some veterans to explain this to a rookie?

Thanks. 
I don't know what happened either.

I have a running joke that whenever there is an administrative "snafu"  (a great term coined in World War II), I blame it on some alumnus of a Division I school.

That was the basis of my #14 comment.  I now think that Concordia-Tx is on the bubble.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 12, 2008, 09:43:42 AM
SCIAC basbeall fans,

The leo's were paired this morning with the SCIAC co-champs to open up the west regional tourney. It should be another exciting game between both school's as we are all aware that both of these clubs played very close games against one another just weeks ago. Best of luck to the Leo's and Panthers during this tourney and in representing our league and So. Cal.   
  http://athletics.mcm.edu/Sports/baseball/2008/08baseballregional.asp         (http://athletics.mcm.edu/Sports/baseball/2008/08baseballregional.asp)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 13, 2008, 05:13:30 PM
Just FYI,

Here's a write up on La Verne's final  3-game series of the season against the Hens and what these boys did in order to stay atop of the SCIAC race. It sure has been a heck of a ride for this team, as I can attest to seeing them play for the past two years on saturday morning/ or afternoons in La Verne.
http://www.ulv.edu/athletics/teams/feature.phtml?story_id=68&u_id=5      (http://www.ulv.edu/athletics/teams/feature.phtml?story_id=68&u_id=5)

Speaking of U.L.V, now that i'm just about done in my quest to get my Master's degree from ULV I'm really going to miss seeing my Tigers pounce on and beating the Leo's on Hines field or just being present to see all of the SCIAC teams play in La Verne. It sure has been fun to catch up with the season from another campus besides being at the Rock.    :P
Go Tigers.
Best of Luck to the Leo's tomorrow against the panthers.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 14, 2008, 03:24:55 PM
Bottom of the 7
SCIAC co-champs 4
Leo's 3

Ladies and Gent: Our So. Cal boys are putting on a good show on openning day of the west regional tourney.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 14, 2008, 03:45:33 PM
After trying to do their best, to once again, stay on top of the panthers on the sand-lot today, the leo's journey has come to an end.
Outstanding job by the leo's during the past two months and for their great games against the number #1 team in d3baseball. These guys should not walk away with their heads down, but instead, hold their heads high and know that an unranked team like theirs can indeed hang in their with the big boys. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 14, 2008, 04:37:53 PM
BrownEagle-  It is a dopuble-elimination tournament.  LaVerne will be back in action tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 14, 2008, 04:42:22 PM
Oh snapps.. I mean oh wow. If this is true about the tourney. Then look out for these boys to continue with their journey. Thanks for the correction J.P.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 14, 2008, 04:49:22 PM
No worries, thats what I am here for.  I believe LaVerne will play the winner of the Trinity/George Foz game at noon tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 14, 2008, 07:13:40 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 14, 2008, 04:49:22 PM
No worries, thats what I am here for.  I believe LaVerne will play the winner of the Trinity/George Fox game at noon tomorrow.
They play George Fox, the Game #2 loser, at noon on Thursday.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 14, 2008, 07:56:52 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 14, 2008, 07:13:40 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 14, 2008, 04:49:22 PM
No worries, thats what I am here for.  I believe LaVerne will play the winner of the Trinity/George Fox game at noon tomorrow.
They play George Fox, the Game #2 loser, at noon on Thursday.
I'm sorry to say that I have a long standing trip to California scheduled tomorrow.  Otherwise I would have attended today or tomorrow.  La Verne vs G.Fox.  It doesn't get any better than that. ;)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 21, 2008, 12:07:39 AM
Congratulations to Pomona's Drew Hedman for being named to the 2nd team d3baseball.com All-America team.

Along those same lines, Congrats to the SCIAC co-champ's Wayde Kitches (1st team) and Kurto Yacko (3rd team) on being named to this great list. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: beachlover on May 21, 2008, 06:30:57 PM
And CMS Weber Shapiro as well.

BE - why do you refer to Chapman as the SCIAC co-champs?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 21, 2008, 07:06:08 PM
Quote from: beachlover on May 21, 2008, 06:30:57 PM
And CMS Weber Shapiro as well.

BE - why do you refer to Chapman as the SCIAC co-champs?
Chapman played 16 games versus the SCIAC and went 14-2.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 21, 2008, 08:30:30 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on May 21, 2008, 07:08:45 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 21, 2008, 07:06:08 PM
Quote from: beachlover on May 21, 2008, 06:30:57 PM
BE - why do you refer to Chapman as the SCIAC co-champs?
Chapman played 16 games versus the SCIAC and went 14-2.

Thanks, Browneagle.

OxyBob

No worries Bob.  ;D

As Ralph, Bob and others have mention, I call the Panthers SCIAC co-champs (in pun) because through out the past seasons (including this year), the panthers seem to be successful against our teams when ever they play each other. Of course we do get several wins here and there but ultimately they end up taking the other games in the series. Of course, there's always the debate about "why the panthers are not in the SCIAC (but that's another story to be told at another time)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 21, 2008, 08:36:48 PM
Congrats to Occidental College Tigers Glenn Gray, Matthew Jones and Adam Franks for being named to the 2008 All-SCIAC team. And thanks to Mr. Franks and his fellow seniors for the memories they gave us through out these past 4 years.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 21, 2008, 10:23:34 PM
My bad!  Thanks oxybob!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 22, 2008, 11:26:37 AM
Quote from: beachlover on May 21, 2008, 06:30:57 PM
And CMS Weber Shapiro as well.

Ahhh. I would have highlighted Mr. Shapiro as well Beach. However, he was nominated/selected through the ABCA and not D3baseball.com. By the way, i'm not even going to dare touch on how players are selected/ nominated on these list as this apparently has lead the National Topics board on very heated debates. (trek on over there to see for your self.) However, Congrats to this young stag anyways.

Alex WeberShapiro (FR, Berkeley) was selected to the American Baseball Coaches Association (ABCA) All-American Third Team. He led the team in RBI's with 51 and tied for the team lead in doubles with 20. He was second on the team in batting average (.435), slugging percentage (.685), on-base percentage (.473) and home runs (6). He was the only freshman selected to any of the three All-American teams and was also the only freshman selected ABCA First Team All-West Region.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 25, 2008, 09:22:21 PM
Very interesting news from Occidental.  I came across this while wasting my day on the computer.

http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/bsb/2007-08/news/052208bsb_StrankmanResignation
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 25, 2008, 09:59:42 PM
That's some tough news to hear. I only wish the best for Coach S. and his future endeavours. Even though my Tigers have yet to reach the number one spot in the SCIAC, his guidance and wisdom sure did make an impact on Oxy basball. From recruiting, improving Anderson field/ club house and fielding teams with talent, I thank him for helping Oxy.

May we land a new skipper at Oxy that can help my team reach it's highest in the SCIAC race in the years to come.

Go Tigers.   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 28, 2008, 11:25:38 AM
Best Wishes for Oxy right fielder/pitcher Geoff Ball on his quest to improve his baseball skills this summer in the NYCBL in representing his team/teammates.

LOS ANGELES, Calif. (May 23, 2008) – Occidental College right fielder Geoff Ball is packing his bags and heading East for the summer. Ball, a sophomore outfielder and left handed pitcher will travel to Niagra Falls, NY to play in the highly competitive New York Collegiate Baseball League (NYCBL) as a member of the expansion Niagra Power.

The NYCBL, partially funded by Major League Baseball is a comprised of 14 teams located in upstate New York. Some of the current Major Leaguers who have played in the NYCBL include Tim Hudson, Hunter Pence and Brad Lidge.

In the summer of 2007 Ball enjoyed a solid summer in the Rocky Mountain Baseball League located in his hometown of Denver, CO. Following the completion of the 2007 summer, Ball met Cal Kern, team president, and locked up a spot on the newest team in the NYCBL for the upcoming summer. A group of players from across the nation will gather together to play 44 regular season games in scenic Sal Maglie Stadium.

Beyond the competition, the Niagra Power will host youth baseball camps and spend time with an Inner City Youth Program.

"I am looking forward to the opportunity to represent Occidental College and play with some of the best baseball players from across the country," said Ball. "The level of competition will make me a better all-around player."
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on June 02, 2008, 12:33:15 PM
Sorry for being a Tad bit late on this, but, I had to handle some last business before offically concluding my program at ULV and walking across that stage.

Anywho's, congratulations to University of La Verne baseball standout Scott Marcus on being named 2008 Second Team All-America by the American Baseball Coaches Association (ABCA).

From the U.L.V Website:
A senior from San Dimas, Marcus was selected to the Second Team as a designated hitter.

Marcus led ULV in homers (14), RBI (68) and slugging percentage (.771) while boasting of a .371 average this season en route to earning SCIAC Player of the Year honors. Marcus also earned First Team All-West Region this season.

Marcus was the lone SCIAC representative among the First, Second or Third Team selections. He becomes the first Leopard baseball All-American since pitcher Scott Lindeen was selected ABCA Second Team All-America in 2005.

La Verne captured the 2008 SCIAC Championship, its 19th conference baseball title in school history.


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on June 05, 2008, 03:46:11 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on June 05, 2008, 12:35:30 PM
Apparently Trinity and Johns Hopkins did not in fact play for the D-III title, according to the Burbank Leader (http://www.burbankleader.com/articles/2008/06/04/sports/blr-baseballleague04.txt):

Levitt will continue his career and will play at Chapman University in Orange. The Panthers have won four straight NCAA Division III West Region Championships and lost in the title game last month.

OxyBob
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NooOOOOOOOO. Not another R-E-D-L-A-N-D-S type of reporter making such huge mistake. Please say this is not so....
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on June 05, 2008, 04:05:18 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on June 05, 2008, 12:35:30 PM
Apparently Trinity and Johns Hopkins did not in fact play for the D-III title, according to the Burbank Leader (http://www.burbankleader.com/articles/2008/06/04/sports/blr-baseballleague04.txt):

Quote
[Ben] Levitt, a senior pitcher, was a second-team [Pacific League] pick, along with senior third baseman/first baseman Chris Montgomery. Sophomore pitcher/utility McCauley Taylor was an honorable-mention pick.

Levitt was Burbank's ace, and he led the league with a 1.29 ERA. Along with a 6-5 record, he also had 78 strikeouts in 70 1/3 innings.

Levitt will continue his career and will play at Chapman University in Orange. The Panthers have won four straight NCAA Division III West Region Championships and lost in the title game last month.

OxyBob
I think the Leader was accurate in that they were talking West Region only.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on June 05, 2008, 04:20:29 PM
G.Fox,

That's exactly what I thought when I was reading this at first. However, if you think about if for a second, "If the leader was indeed talking" about the West Region only, then Why would they have mentioned just before hand in their story that the Panthers Won four straight West Regions but Lost the "title game" (the west region).  Clearly the SCIAC co-champs Won the West Region. ;)

Kind of confusing Huh??
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on June 05, 2008, 05:26:30 PM
Browneagle,

I did some exploring on the Leader and found this interesting
Quote• The uniform-success trophy is awarded to the Burroughs baseball team. Unhappy with his team's underachieving play, Coach Tom Crowther took away his Indians' uniforms and vowed not to give them back until they started winning. Forced to compete in games in their practice jerseys, the players had to use black tape and black markers to put numbers on their backs. The ploy worked, as Burroughs started winning. The only problem was the Indians didn't want to give up their new good-luck garments.
Maybe the men in orange and black can try this next year.  A clever way to save on the cost of game uniforms. ;)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on June 05, 2008, 05:39:27 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on June 05, 2008, 05:12:03 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on June 05, 2008, 04:20:29 PM
Kind of confusing Huh??

I didn't find the article confusing, just wrong. If the paper was referring to the West Regional then it was wrong because Chapman won the West Regional. If it was referring to the D-III WS then it was wrong because Chapman was knocked out of the Loser's Bracket by UWW.

OxyBob
You are correct.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on June 06, 2008, 12:25:26 AM
Looks like our very own SCIAC school, the University of La Verne, is doing a great job in getting the school noticed at  big Baseball stadiums this summer.
After watching my Lakers Lose game 1 of the finals on T.V., I flipped over to the Dodger game and was siked to see that the Leo's had two nice looking banners behind home plate (word has it that the two signs at Angel stadium are rather large and can be seen from the nearby freeway).  Great to see that the money I used for grad. school is being used in good ways.  I am sure such signs like these can help out the Leo's baseball team for future recruits.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on June 06, 2008, 04:46:45 PM
Congratulations to SCIAC co-champ Kurt Yacko from Chapman U. who will be headin to the Colorado Rockies system after being taken at No. 257 in the MLB draft.

Although, I will never root for the Rockies in my Life, I am glad to see that Mr. Yacko will be joining Cal Lu's Jason Hirsh (former D3/ So. Cal Baseball players) in playing with the Big Boys in the Bigs. Hope to see these guys on the field sometime in the future against my Dodgers. 

From M.L.B.com

  Click here (http://colorado.rockies.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl_3_1.jsp?w_id=702696&w=/2008/open/draft/broll/br_yacko_kurt_400.wmv&mid=200805302800131&pid=gen_video&vid=11071&cid=mlb&v=2)

Gotta Love the funky music that goes along with Yacko's highlight film.


Thanks for the link. Modified for formatting  -- Ralph Turner
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on June 07, 2008, 09:33:53 PM
The awards keep coming in, yet, this time great news for the poet baseball team:
OF Charles Acker ( Sr.) was named to the  ABCA/Rawlings  NCAA Divison 3 National Gold Glove Award winners list. Congratulations to Charles in representing the Poets and the SCIAC.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: beachlover on June 08, 2008, 11:30:58 PM
Congratulations also to Thomas Phelps, Whittier RHP who was drafted in the 38th round by the Orioles.  Mike Vass of Chapman went in the 35th round to Milwaukee.



Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on June 09, 2008, 11:40:39 PM
Quote from: beachlover on June 08, 2008, 11:30:58 PM
Congratulations also to Thomas Phelps, Whittier RHP who was drafted in the 38th round by the Orioles.  Mike Vass of Chapman went in the 35th round to Milwaukee.
Phelps did not make all SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: gatekeper43 on June 26, 2008, 01:24:26 PM
Summer wood bat league is going full tilt and the games are exciting!! :D NECBL has some of the top talent of the DIII world as well as the DII and DI.
After watching the game last night and the underdog Fresno State beating Georgia handely and boy did they make a statement. I guess it goes to show you that once a team gets into the regionals and deeper into the tournaments the W/L means nothing, for instance once Chapman who was rated #1 for the last 10 weeks of the season and lost in CBWS after only winning 1 game, I guess that I am as guilty as the next guy to realize that I take for granted the W/L record means that they are going to win everything, but guite the opposite. It is how they play once they get into the tournament, how hot there bats are and how deep is the pitching staff???
    I have learned through the past few years that it is not a good thing to think that jjust because a team is winning the regular season that they are automatically going to be give the bronze and walnut trophy, there are a lot of teams that are like the Fresno State Bulldogs and were 89th in the rankings to come in and get hot and take the trophy and the ring.
   But what is so cool is that the trophy is on the west coast and in Cali..... :)
Great job Fresno State.

I have a question for anybody who is more versed in the subject of talent levels of DIII vs. DI   after watching the DI college baseball world series I don't see that there is much of a descrepency of talent levels at the DI level. granted they have more kids to choose from but if anybody can give me a viable reason as to why I have heard in postings prior to this one why DI is more talented than DIII?? ???
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ECSUalum on June 26, 2008, 03:53:58 PM
gatekeeper,

I  presume your reference to prior postings are the threads under "National Topics" "World Series" (last 3-4 pages).

I had posted in one of these threads this year, (sorry, i cant remeber where it is now), a link to Boyds World, ( "Breadcrums back to Omaha") which discusses the overlap between D-I, DII, and DIII programs.  Basically the conclusion is that the top 10 or so D-III/II programs could be very competitive in D-I, but would generally fall below the top 40-50 D-1 teams over all.  He also states that there are a lot of D-I, D-II teams that certainly do  not belong in those divisions.

Boyd also published combined DI, D-II,D-III Iterative Strength Ranking ,(ISR), for, I believe 2004 thru 2007.

I quess my only comment other than above is that D-I generally gets the cream of the High School/Junior college crop, (other than those drafted ex HS/JC).  That the top 50 or so D-I team pitching staffs are physically bigger and throw with more velocity/control that D-III.  Additionally , i would suspect that D-I team defence stats for the top 50 or so teams would be again generally better than most D-III programs.

But having said that, there are certainly a great number of D-III players that could make, play and sometime do very well in top 50 D-I programs.  However, i am not sure i would bet against teams like FL State, Arizona, St, Texas, Cal St fullerton, LSU, etc if it came down to a theoretical DI,DII,DIII top 24 team tournament.  But wouldn't that be fun to watch!!!!!!

Congrats to FRESNO ST BULLDOGS on a fantastic end of the 2008 year and the NCAA D-I NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!!!.  I, was certainly rooting for them the whole way!!!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: gatekeper43 on June 26, 2008, 06:16:21 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on June 26, 2008, 03:53:58 PM
gatekeeper,

I  presume your reference to prior postings are the threads under "National Topics" "World Series" (last 3-4 pages).

I had posted in one of these threads this year, (sorry, i cant remeber where it is now), a link to Boyds World, ( "Breadcrums back to Omaha") which discusses the overlap between D-I, DII, and DIII programs.  Basically the conclusion is that the top 10 or so D-III/II programs could be very competitive in D-I, but would generally fall below the top 40-50 D-1 teams over all.  He also states that there are a lot of D-I, D-II teams that certainly do  not belong in those divisions.

Boyd also published combined DI, D-II,D-III Iterative Strength Ranking ,(ISR), for, I believe 2004 thru 2007.

I quess my only comment other than above is that D-I generally gets the cream of the High School/Junior college crop, (other than those drafted ex HS/JC).  That the top 50 or so D-I team pitching staffs are physically bigger and throw with more velocity/control that D-III.  Additionally , i would suspect that D-I team defence stats for the top 50 or so teams would be again generally better than most D-III programs.

But having said that, there are certainly a great number of D-III players that could make, play and sometime do very well in top 50 D-I programs.  However, i am not sure i would bet against teams like FL State, Arizona, St, Texas, Cal St fullerton, LSU, etc if it came down to a theoretical DI,DII,DIII top 24 team tournament.  But wouldn't that be fun to watch!!!!!!

Congrats to FRESNO ST BULLDOGS on a fantastic end of the 2008 year and the NCAA D-I NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!!!.  I, was certainly rooting for them the whole way!!!!

Hey Alum, I guess for the most part the overall talent level at DIII is below the DI, and or the DII level but I believe like you stated there are kids at the DIII level that could play at that level, I guess I am just looking at my own kid and his abilities plus for the most part the kids that play around him.
  I do know that the coaching has severe budget constaints that they have to deal with and do not have the sponsors that are at the DI level. which is a shame since I have seen some great baseball at this level.

You did mention that they get the cream of the crop... when the kids around the country want to go to the big name schools and they are only going for one reason which is baseball and not acedemic's. I guess the kids at the DIII are more in tuned to think that they need and will possibly need that education when they don't make it to the next level of either rookie ball or low A with the chance to keep going on. but those are few and far between also!!! Not every kid gets to the next level and it seems to me that they would want to think of there future , but I guess the real world is they don't and end up working at In and Out or something.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ECSUalum on June 26, 2008, 09:30:46 PM
you make many real good points.

Good luck to your boy in the acedemic and athletic realm. You can be very proud of him playing college baseball @ D-III, still the cream of the crop!!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: chakote on July 24, 2008, 07:58:53 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on July 23, 2008, 06:14:11 PM
From the Oxy web site (http://www.oxyathletics.com/othernews/071708hawkins_bsbcoach), the Tigers have a new head coach:

QuoteHawkins Named Occidental Baseball Coach

Jason Hawkins, a second-generation coach with 14 years of experience on both the collegiate and high school levels, has been named head baseball coach at Occidental College, Athletic Director Jaime Hoffman announced Thursday.

"Jason's experience as a player, a coach and as a teacher make him the ideal choice to move Oxy baseball to the next level," Hoffman said. "We look forward to great things under his leadership."

"I am very excited to be named head coach at Occidental," said Hawkins, currently assistant coach and recruiting coordinator for the University of Redlands and pitching coach for the Corvallis Knights of the West Coast Collegiate Baseball League. "Becoming Occidental's new head baseball coach is a tremendous honor. I am humbled by the welcome my wife and I have already received. I look forward to building on the rich traditions on the field; working with a talented group of driven young men and starting a life in the Eagle Rock area with my wife and two boys."

During his four years at Redlands, Hawkins helped coach the nationally ranked NCAA Division III Bulldogs to a 2006 Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference championship, the program's first in 15 years. During the past four years, the team posted a 104-57 record, tops in SCIAC.

An Oregon native and son of a long-time high school coach, Hawkins played for Western Oregon University where he graduated with a degree in English and history. He began his coaching career while still a college student, becoming head coach at Springfield High School in Springfield, Oregon after graduation in 1995. He earned a master's in English from Pacific University while coaching high school ball in North Eugene and Hillsboro, then took a position as head coach and English teacher at Desert Hot Springs High School near Palm Springs in 1999.

Before joining Corvallis, Hawkins spent two years as an assistant coach for the Palm Springs Power of the Southern California Collegiate Baseball Association. During that time, Palm Springs finished 11th at the 2006 NBC World Series and captured a SCCBA championship in 2007.

Jason, his wife, Angela, and their two sons, Will and Cal, are scheduled to arrive in Eagle Rock on September 1st.

OxyBob

WELCOME TO THE LEAGUE COACH!!!! We all hope that you have a great experience out here and your family does also.. Can't wait until we play you if we do?? Chapman parent

Chakote
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on July 25, 2008, 10:36:33 PM
What a great choice in picking Coach Hawkins as Oxy's new baseball coach. Although he comes to the Rock via the Puppy nation, his experience as a SCIAC coach will be of valuable assest to the men in orange in black. I hope Coach Hawkins and his future staff (will he bring along several Pup coaches????) the best of luck in recruiting. ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on August 23, 2008, 01:53:09 PM
That is really some great news about what Coach Hawkins can do with his programs. Now, if he could only find the way to bring the bats alive at the Rock, we sure will be in good hands. ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SCIACfan5 on November 17, 2008, 12:15:36 AM
We're still a few months away, but does anyone have any predictions for the 2009 SCIAC season? Which team is best equipped to go deep in the playoffs? What rivalries will have the greatest impact on the season's outcome? Who will win SCIAC-MVP? All-American candidates? Who will take the title?

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on November 25, 2008, 09:22:10 AM
Lol SCIACfan5. A lot of the SCIAC posters are either still hungover with football season wrapping up or gearing up for basketball season. I know others will start creeping in here at or around Feb.

As to answer your question, here's my prediction for the 2009 SCIAC season.

After graduating some Key Players the Leo's of ULV will by eyeing for another SCIAC crown using what they have on their Roster. To me, the Leo's always have the Talent to stay atop the SCIAC race, but will drop if they don't get their pitching staff on the same page. In saying that, I might have to premateruly, say that they may end up taking 2nd place this year. (note: these guys can go on a serious streak and eventually win it all. Just look at last year.

The Pups of UoR look to avenage their 2008 season in which they just completely collapsed towards the middle and last half of the season. These guys always have a bat and a decent pitching staff. So look for them to be the top contender for the top spot of the SCIAC race. It just may be their year to take the SCIAC crown.

Heres how my SCIAC list looks for this season

1. UoR/ Leo's
2. Pomona./oxy
3.The Poets
4. Cal Lu
5. Stags
6. The Beaves
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SCIACfan5 on November 27, 2008, 12:28:07 AM
Interesting points. But both Cal Lu and PP appear to be returning a lot of starters this year ( I believe each isn't losing more than 2 or 3).

I think both Cal Lu and PP will make a serious run for the title considering how PP started off so well (before going 1-8 down the stretch) and how Cal Lu finished so strong.

With Redlands, La Verne, PP, and Cal Lu, I think it's going to be a close race to the title.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on November 27, 2008, 06:03:42 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on November 25, 2008, 09:22:10 AM
Lol SCIACfan5. A lot of the SCIAC posters are either still hungover with football season wrapping up or gearing up for basketball season. I know others will start creeping in here at or around Feb.

As to answer your question, here's my prediction for the 2009 SCIAC season.

After graduating some Key Players the Leo's of ULV will by eyeing for another SCIAC crown using what they have on their Roster. To me, the Leo's always have the Talent to stay atop the SCIAC race, but will drop if they don't get their pitching staff on the same page. In saying that, I might have to premateruly, say that they may end up taking 2nd place this year. (note: these guys can go on a serious streak and eventually win it all. Just look at last year.

The Pups of UoR look to avenage their 2008 season in which they just completely collapsed towards the middle and last half of the season. These guys always have a bat and a decent pitching staff. So look for them to be the top contender for the top spot of the SCIAC race. It just may be their year to take the SCIAC crown.

Heres how my SCIAC list looks for this season

1. UoR/ Leo's
2. Pomona./oxy
3.The Poets
4. Cal Lu
5. Stags
6. The Beaves

Lay off the Kool-Aid BrownEagle ;D  There is no way Oxy does anything this year.  Strankman couldn't get it done, neither will the new guy right away.
LaVerne lost a lot. 
Pomona got exposed big time at the end of the year. 
Cal Lu hasnt done it in years. 
Redlands would be my choice right now due to the fact they have been pretty darn good the past few years.
CMS-  Who knows?  They have plenty of talent but no coaching at all.
Whitter-  Gonna be flat out bad, not much more to say about that.

I am ready for baseball now that football is over.  Plenty of time to discuss/argue with each other on the upcoming season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SCIACfan5 on November 28, 2008, 07:11:18 PM
1. Pomona Pitzer
2. La Verne/Redlands
4. Cal Lutheran
5. CMS
6. Occidental
7. Whittier
8. Cal Tech

PP was plagued by injuries last year but they're only losing a couple starters. They lacked a bullpen, which is what they need to fix. Their lineup should match up with the best of them, and their starting rotation is all returning. If injuries don't hurt them, they should take the title.
La Verne should still contend, even though they lost some key starters. THey will probably bring in a couple of solid transfers, which always puts them back into contention. Still need to work on their pitching and plug holes in the lineup.
Redlands will be an offsensive threat, but their pen will need a lot of work. They won't be loaded on either end, but should have a couple of solid starters and relievers.
I think Cal Lu will surprise some teams. They're returning all but a couple starters from last year. They're still young and raw, but should still be tough and a bit more experienced than last year.
CMS always has a powerful lineup. Their issue will be, as in the past years, their pitching, or lack thereof.
Whittier needs a lot of work. Period.
Cal Tech is Cal Tech. Although their soccer team did beat Cal Lu!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on November 30, 2008, 01:07:16 PM
Sweet. There's some folks in this board already willing to talk about baseball.

Good predictions SCIACfan. However, im not to sure that the hens will take the SCIAC crown this year. Sure they started off solid last year, but, if you see who they played at the start of their season last year the Hens really didn't play against solid teams. It was until half way down the road that they met the sciac co-champs, the pups, and the leos that they finally found good teams that could expose them. I wouldnt be surprised if they started off on a high note, but, this team is still too young.

More on the other teams later.

And yes, the Tigers will surprise everyone.  ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: chakote on December 02, 2008, 01:01:34 AM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on November 30, 2008, 01:07:16 PM
Sweet. There's some folks in this board already willing to talk about baseball.

Good predictions SCIACfan. However, im not to sure that the hens will take the SCIAC crown this year. Sure they started off solid last year, but, if you see who they played at the start of their season last year the Hens really didn't play against solid teams. It was until half way down the road that they met the sciac co-champs, the pups, and the leos that they finally found good teams that could expose them. I wouldnt be surprised if they started off on a high note, but, this team is still too young.

More on the other teams later.

And yes, the Tigers will surprise everyone.  ;D

Eagle,
yes it is almost that time again and I can't wait!!!! watching a little winter ball was a tease but we are coming up with the real thing here in a couple months.

I think that Hens will do just fine with a taste of winning that they came so close last year, they will be hungry for this year. As for the co champs we are looking a little rough to say the least and we have a long way to go this year. We will see once the first pitch is thrown in for real though.

Yes I am anxious and glad to start hearing some chatter from posters ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on December 03, 2008, 01:56:49 PM
Chakote-  What do you mean Chapman is looking rough?  Bad recruiting year?  different team?  Rusty?  I am sure they will get it all in order once Jan. comes around. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: chakote on December 04, 2008, 03:22:43 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on December 03, 2008, 01:56:49 PM
Chakote-  What do you mean Chapman is looking rough?  Bad recruiting year?  different team?  Rusty?  I am sure they will get it all in order once Jan. comes around. 

Just a figure of speech Jack!! I am sure they will come out with all guns blazing come Jan.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on December 09, 2008, 12:50:04 PM
From the Green Bay Press-Gazette:

QuoteBullfrogs' Strankman hired as Twins scout

Elliott Strankman, the Green Bay Bullfrogs' manager for their first two seasons, has been hired as the Minnesota Twins' scout for northern California.

Strankman was named manager of the year in the Northwoods League in 2007 after leading the Bullfrogs to the playoffs in their first year of existence. The Bullfrogs were 78-58 under Strankman.

He also was head coach at Occidental College in Los Angeles for three seasons, but resigned in May to pursue other baseball opportunities.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on December 09, 2008, 04:04:31 PM
Nice. Congrats to Coach Strankman on this awesome opportunity. As much as we like to look and point at records, Coach S., did his best in a) getting more baseball players to Oxy, b) Building a program that could have both students/ and athletes and c) and program that could indeed get wins.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on December 16, 2008, 11:40:13 PM
Bored, yes very bored so I thought I would look for schedules.  Here are the SCIAC schedules, excluding OXY.

Cal Tech- http://www.gocaltech.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/schedule

Cal Lutheran- http://www.clusports.com/baseball/schedule/

Claremont- http://www.cmsathletics.com/sports/spring/bsb/2008-09/schedule

La Verne- http://www.leopardathletics.com/sports/spring/bsb/2008-09/schedule

Pomona Pitzer- http://www.physical-education.pomona.edu/mens/baseball/scheduleresults2009.shtml

Redlands- http://www.goredlands.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/schedule

Whittier- http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/schedule

After looking at all of these I will weigh in my opinion on some things....

1. Whittier to Texas?  That is not going to help the SCIAC's reputation.
2. Why does La Verne play 5 non-D III games?  Those games dont help!!
3. Why is Cal Lutheran the only one playing La Sierra?  I guess 3 wins are 3 wins
4. A lot of teams playing CSU East Bay. 

I am sure there will be more observations from others.  Is it Feb. yet ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on December 17, 2008, 11:34:16 AM
I think everyone is playing Cal-State East Bay because CSEB needs more in-region games to boos their chances of getting an NCAA bid. I Correct me if I am wrong, but I think they are a Pool B (independent) team. In the past, they played many of the NCAA DII teams and did not have a broad enough base of DIII opponents to be considered for the post-season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on December 17, 2008, 01:12:37 PM
Job well done JP. Thanks for posting these up. In due time Oxy's scedule will be posted as well. (At least thats what we hope)

Speaking of schedules, as I was looking at the Leo's list, even though they are playing 3 non-D3 teams, two of those teams (i.e APU and Biola) are actually pretty good (NAIA) teams. Playing these two teams should actually help the Leo's in their quest in making yet another Post season appearance and claiming the SCIAC crown. Games against go opponents will indeed help teams in the long run.

Looks like the Mid-spring Cal Classic will once again feature good teams from the East. Can't wait for that to happen.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: infielddad on December 17, 2008, 01:34:08 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on December 17, 2008, 11:34:16 AM
I think everyone is playing Cal-State East Bay because CSEB needs more in-region games to boos their chances of getting an NCAA bid. I Correct me if I am wrong, but I think they are a Pool B (independent) team. In the past, they played many of the NCAA DII teams and did not have a broad enough base of DIII opponents to be considered for the post-season.

Cal State East Bay has been in the West Regional several times over the past few years, including last Spring.
I think the issue with playing them is they are moving to DII beginning in 2009/2010.  I think they will be DIII in the Spring of 2009 for baseball. for the last time.  I will leave it to Ralph and others to explain what that transition might mean for post season play by and against CSEB.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on December 17, 2008, 02:20:32 PM
I believe you are both correct.  Without playing mostly a D-III schedule, they have no shot of getting to the post-season.  The problem for them s that they pretty much stand alone in their area, minus Menlo.

infielddad- You are right about them moving to D-II.  I have no idea what that means for this coming season and the post-season.  On the right side of this page it says a little about the move.

http://edschool.csuhayward.edu/departments/kpe/athletics/index.html
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on December 17, 2008, 03:54:03 PM
F.Y.I, here's the 09 schedule for the SCIAC co-champs: http://www.chapman.edu/athletics/men/baseball/schedule.asp  (http://www.chapman.edu/athletics/men/baseball/schedule.asp). Looks like they stuck on to the same schedule as last year (yet included Dallas, Tex.)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SCIACfan5 on December 18, 2008, 04:22:09 PM
Oxy's Schedule:

http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/schedule
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 18, 2008, 09:51:48 PM
Infielddad is right.  +1!  :)

CSU-EB is moving to D-II.  This is the last season for them in D-III.

East Bay needs to schedule at least 50% of its games as in-region.

QuoteTo be considered during the at-large selection process (Pools B or C), an institution must play at least 50 percent of its competition against Division III in-region opponents, unless a waiver has been approved by the Division III Championships Committee.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on December 19, 2008, 02:27:16 AM
Here is the CSU East Bay schedule.

http://edschool.csueastbay.edu/departments/kpe/I.C.Sports/Baseball/schedule.htm

That looks like a great schedule!  Great mix of games with the SCIAC and the NWC.  Man this season must be costing them a fortune! 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 19, 2008, 05:53:07 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on December 19, 2008, 02:27:16 AM
Here is the CSU East Bay schedule.

http://edschool.csueastbay.edu/departments/kpe/I.C.Sports/Baseball/schedule.htm

That looks like a great schedule!  Great mix of games with the SCIAC and the NWC.  Man this season must be costing them a fortune! 
Jack, CSU-EB has only one plane flight, probably on Southwest Airlines to Seguin, TX. :)

We know that their travel budget should go down in D2 next year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on December 19, 2008, 01:27:32 PM
Ralph-  I was thinking more about the hotel rooms they will have to get.  A few trips to Oregon and a few down south will not be cheap.  I figure flying from Oakland to San Antonio would be the way to go and the Southwest web-site has those flights for a minimum of about $275.  Either way, D-II will help them out a lot in that sense.  I figure the only flight they would likely take is to Phoenix, AZ to play Grand Canyon.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SCIACfan5 on December 24, 2008, 03:56:16 PM
I'm sure most saw this already:

Collegiate Baseball Newspaper's

NCAA Div. III Pre-Season Poll (As of Dec. 23)

www.baseballnews.com

Rank    School Name '08 Final Record Point Totals
1. Cortland St., NY 42-5 260
2. Chapman, CA 40-5 258
3. Adrian, MI 36-13 253
4. Kean, NJ 39-11 250
5. Southern Maine  36-14 247
6. Trinity, CT 45-1 245
7. Johns Hopkins, MD 42-8 242
8. Wooster, OH 36-11 239
9. Wisc.-Whitewater 42-10 236
10. Eastern Conn. St. 32-15 233
11. Salisbury, MD 41-4 232
12. Heidelberg, OH 41-10 229
13. Texas-Tyler 36-9 225
14. Lynchburg, VA 32-13 222
15. Marietta, OH 23-20 219
16. Illinois Wesleyan, IL 33-11 217
17. Linfield, OR 35-13 214
18. St. Scholastica, MN 35-6 211
19. Redlands, CA 27-13 208
20. La Verne, CA 26-16-1 206
21. Thiel, Pa 29-15 203
22. Rensselaer Poly. Inst., NY 36-12 201
23. Wheaton, IL 23-14 197
24. Rowan, NJ 34-14 195
25. St. Thomas, MN 34-9 194
26. Webster, MO 31-15 192
27. Piedmont, GA 34-14 189
28. Keene St., NH 34-11 186
29. Ithaca, NY 30-13 183
30. New Jersey 30-12 179

Other Top Teams: Carthage, WI (36-10), Wisc.-Oshkosh (29-11), Montclair St., NJ (28-20), Christopher Newport, VA (29-14), Pacific Lutheran, WA (24-14-2), Denison, OH (27-18), Wisc.-Stevens Point (29-16), Rose-Hulman, IN (32-15), Penn. St. Behrend, PA (34-12), Aurora, IL (25-15), Franklin, IN (26-14), McMurry, TX (29-19), William Paterson, NJ (23-19), St. Joseph's, NY (27-15-1), California Lutheran (19-18-2), Beloit, WI (18-16), Rochester, NY (28-13), Haverford, PA (27-14-1), Pomona-Pitzer, CA (27-13), St. Olaf, MN (28-12).
Source: Collegiate Baseball newspaper

http://www.baseballnews.com/polls/divIII/currentpolldiviii.htm

It's still too early to tell, but we have 4 teams on the list: #19 Redlands, #20 La Verne, and "other top teams" Cal Lutheran and Pomona-Pitzer.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on December 30, 2008, 12:56:02 PM
No, but, Thanks for the Insight SCIAC5.

Glad to see several SCIAC teams representing in the top 25 Pre-Season Poll. (Especially SCIAC co-champ Chapman being at #2).  Although, these rankings are far more accurate then any of our fearless predictions, it good to see that two SCIAC teams can be seen as tough D3 opponents. Even though I would argue on my own behalf that the Leos are the far better b-ball team than the Pups, the voters understand that the Pups return a solid unit that did not lose a lot of starters from last years squad. If the Leos can find more pitchers as the season starts up, I can assure you that these guys will slowly claw their ways up the charts.
As for Pomona, they need pitching as well. Can't believe Cal Lu got some votes.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on December 30, 2008, 05:24:49 PM
BE-  I am working on a little something that might help clear up some of the reasons why the SCIAC teams are getting soem pre-season love.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on December 30, 2008, 11:27:03 PM
I will do my own little preview for each of the SCIAC teams that were getting attention in the polls and will start with Redlands.

Redlands is losing a lot less than I first thought they were, but the players they are losing made up a pretty big part of their team last year.  UR had a .363 AVG in '08 and were led by Brian Schumaker who hit .414 with 42 RBI.  Another guy with good offensive numbers is Billy Lavelle.  Lavelle hit .378 and stole 19 bases.  Other than those two, there are not many guys with a lot of at bats that are leaving.  Between Chase Beatty, Tom Ledda, Luke Wetmore, and Neil Muller, UR loses about 183 at bats from '08, with 91 of those by Beatty.

On the mound UR loses only two pitchers that started 18 games for them in '08.  The problem with that is the fact that they only had five guys start a game last year, and one of them only started one game.  Ryan Seifert was 3-4 with a 5.44 ERA in 6 starts and Mike McCarthy was 8-4 with a 4.57 ERA in 12 starts.  McCarthy would have figured to be one of their main guys again but he transfered to Cal State Bakersfield.

UR has some pretty solid numbers coming back offensively as well as on the mound.  Kyle Rizzo hit .411 with 14 sb's and 34 RBI in '08.  Corey Vane hit .388 with 28 sb's.  Matt Goldstein hit .386 with 14 doubles, and Jefre Johnson hit .372 with 34 RBI.

On the mound Nolan Nicholson went 12-2 with a 3.93 ERA in 14 starts and Michael Lessing went 3-1 with a 5.56 ERA in 6 starts.

I would say UR will be pretty good on the offensive side but their pitching has to be a huge question mark with McCarthy leaving.  Starting a guy on friday and bringing him back a day later out of the pen will catch up with the arms real quick.  Overall I think UR will be a team that will win some games but will lose some as well.  I look for a 2nd-3rd place finish for them.


* There is nothing scientific about this.  I just looked at the stats from last year and the roster from last year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 02, 2009, 10:20:33 PM
After the amazing response to my last preview (yes, I am being very sarcastic), I will take a look at The University of La Verne.

ULV is coming off of a SCIAC title and West Regional appearance.  ULV was led by their 3 main studs in the field and a pitching staff that was pretty much made up of 4-5 guys. 

Hitting

ULV is crushed by losing Jack Mehl, Scott Marcus and Trever Boucher.  These three accounted for a little over one-third of all at-bats in '08 for ULV.  This trio accounted for a combined .372 average, 20 home runs, 125 RBI and 33 stolen bases, which is exactly half of ULV's total.  Losing these three is huge and they will be very tough to replace.
In all, ULV is losing almost half of their at-bats from last year (45%).

There are not many hitters returning that really put up any kind of significant numbers.  Mike Moretti hit .354 in 130 at-bats with 3 home runs and 38 RBI.  Eddie Kalankiewicz was 22/66 on the year with 15 RBI.

ULV has some HUGE holes to fill this year.  ULV usually gets the best out of all of their players and this year they will need that to come true more than ever.

Pitching

On paper ULV is not the most impressive team around.  Three guys combined to start 39 of 43 games last year for ULV.  ULV will lose Ryan Rose who started 13 games in '08 and finished with a 7-4 record and a 6.44 ERA.  Jimmy Wilfong compiled a 6-2 record in 21 appearances (3 starts) and a very impressive 2.30 ERA.
In all, ULV will lose a combined record of 13-6 with a 4.49 ERA.

Coming back for ULV is the pretty solid duo of Jesse Sweet and Tim Jolly.  Sweet and Jolly combined for 26 starts and a 10-7 record.  Grant Wheatley is the only other pitcher that really had any impact in '08 finishing with a 2-2 record and 4.24 ERA.

All around I think ULV will be a decent team, but they will struggle with the loss of Mehl, Marcus and Boucher.  Losing those kind of numbers will hurt any team.  ULV is always capable of bringing in decent JC players and thats what I expect to happen in '09.  The guys they bring in better step it up in a big way in order for ULV to finish on top of the SCIAC again.

ULV's pitching is never very impressive numbers wise but they get the job done.  They lost a lot but have a lot coming back.  Jolly is one of the best pitchers in the SCIAC and he will need to carry this team in '09.

I look for ULV to finish anywhere between 2nd and 4th this year but depending on what they are bringing in, they could finish higher.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 08, 2009, 02:06:01 AM
Pfh Pfh Pfh (Sound of me hitting my microphone)...Is this thing on?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SCIACfan5 on January 08, 2009, 02:04:12 PM
I think you're pulling some great stuff Jack. Some of the research you're doing is very insightful and a bit more in depth than other previews. I'd like to see you do all the SCIAC teams (and Chapman) if possible.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 08, 2009, 04:13:34 PM
Wow!  It seems I have a fan.  I will continue my previews later tonight and will be sure to include all SCIAC teams as well as Chapman.  Stay tuned.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 09, 2009, 01:08:41 AM
I am not really sure why Cal Lutheran is getting some votes n the pre-season poll.  I say this due to the fact that they were barely over .500 last year and haven't been to relevant in the SCIAC for a while now.  Here is a look at what they have coming back and what they lost.

Offense

Looking at the roster on their web-site it seems Cal Lu will be bringing in a lot of new faces.  Some of the guys they have coming back have some pretty good numbers from last year.

Cal Lu should be led by Paul Hartman who hit .371 in '08 and led the team in ab's, runs, hits and had a .673 slugging %.  Hartman hit 11 hr's which is a good amount considering how big the Cal Lu field is.  Hartman had 11 doubles and 2 tripples during the '08 season.
David Iden is another guy that had a pretty good '08 season.  Iden hit .340 with 15 doubles and a very impressive 30/32 in stolen bases.  Iden sounds like a pretty good gap-hitter with great speed.

Other than those two listed above, Cal Lu doesn't seem to have much coming back.  Richard Michelin and Nick Pinneri hit .287 and .279 respectively.

The biggest loss is Trevor Davidson.  Davidson hit .341 with 11 doubles, 3 triples and 3 hr's.  Other than Davidson, Cal Lu lost a bunch of platoon players with average stats.

Pitching

Cal Lu returns its top 3 arms from last year.  Byron Minnich, Alex Casillas and Robby Seldon.  Those 3 combined to go 10-11 in '08 but were very tough down the stretch.  Minnich is only a sophomore and had a good 4-2 record as a freshman.  Casillas had a few games with a lot of strike outs, including a no-hitter against Menlo.
Cal Lu returns Peter Schmitt and Steven Omlor out of the bullpen.  These two combined for a 4-3 record in '08.

Overall Cal Lu looks like they will bring in a lot of guys in '09 (based on the size of the returning roster on their web-site).  I think Cal Lu has something to build on from last year after finishing the season on a good run after starting the season pretty poor.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 09, 2009, 01:31:58 AM
Pomona-Pitzer had the SCIAC won towards the end of the season but dropped their final 6 SCIAC games to let the lead slip away.  P-P is bringing back a lot of talent which makes me believe they will win it all in '09.

Offense

P-P brings back the best hitter in the SCIAC in Drew Hedman.  Hedman had a monster season in '08 with a .380 average, 11 doubles, 18 hr's and 60 RBI.  Adding to this is Brandon Huerta who hit .379 with 16 doubles and 5 home runs.  James Kang hit .359 with 16 doubles and Zachary Mandelblatt hit .344 with 6 doubles and 6 hr's while spening time in the fielad and on the mound.

P-P loses Michael Jahanides who hit .364 with 12 doubles and 3 hr's.

Pitching

P-P brings back David Colvin who went 9-2 as a freshman with a 3.53 ERA.  Also back for P-P is Tom Church, 6-3 with a 4.02 ERA and Mandelblatt who was 5-6 with a 5.56 ERA.  Those 3 combined for 20 of P-P's 27 wins in '08.  I am sure all three of these guys will be better in '09 making them very tough to beat.

Like I sadi earlier, Pomona-Pitzer is loaded with returning players.  One thing that struck me was the fact that they onloy attempted 20 stolen bases which is a very low number in the aggressive SCIAC.  P-P choked down the stretch in '08 and I would look for them to be a lot more aggressive in '09 and build on the success they did have in '08.  My top picj for the SCIAC in '09.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 09, 2009, 01:56:46 AM
Claremont is a team that I just dont understand.  They have a lot of good talent but seem to finish in the middle of the SCIAC every year.  Maybe '09 will be different with some key guys returning.

Offense

CMS has a lot of tallent returning and should be led again by Alex Weber-Shapiro, Travis Nishioka, Andrew Blomberg, Max Rose, Tim Ednoff and David Spiller.  These guys had a great year offensively hitting .464, .394, .389, .356, .344, and .335 respectively.  These guys comnied to hit 33 hr's, 85 doubles, and 17 triples. 
As a team CMS hit .342 in '08.  If these guys can put up these kind of numbers again it would help CMS a bunch.

Pitching

The CMS pitching killed them in '08.  CMS pitchers combined for a 6.51 ERA and only 16 wins.  Coming back for CMS is Ryan Kaup who was 2-2, Alex Sunderland who was 2-0, and Max Rose who was 4-5.  Those 3 comined for half of CMS' total wins in '08.  If CMS wants to make a push at the SCIAC title they will have to get better pitching. 

It is obvious CMS can hit but with the pitching they have, I don't see them making much noise in the SCIAC this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: oldcat on January 09, 2009, 02:42:33 AM
i like it jack. keep it up. i know its alot of work. thank you for these previews.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SCIACfan5 on January 09, 2009, 03:33:08 AM
Great stuff Jack. Just a couple of notes:

Zach Mandelblatt of PP was the SCIAC Player of the Year in 2007. Last year, he was injured midway during the season, taking his bat out of the lineup. His injury came right before PP went into their 1-8 record down the road. He still pitched the rest of the season. Expect big things from him in the 2009 season.

As for CMS, Alex Weber-Shapiro, the two-time All-American, transferred to UCLA during the offseason. This kid put up huge numbers the past two seasons, and was only getting better (and bigger). He was a big bat and huge loss for the team. Good luck to Weber-Shapiro competing for UCLA.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 09, 2009, 03:57:03 AM
SCIAC fan5-  I didnt know Mandelblatt was injured last year.  If they had him during that stretch, they might have won just one of those games and taken the SCIAC title.

Weber-Shapiro to UCLA?  I thought there was soething on here a few months ago but never did go back and look for it.  Thats a huge loss cause the guy put up some huge numbers.

I will look at Oxy and Whittier tomorrow.

Here is my preview for Cal Tech:

0-21....again.  I am sure they are good guys and are the future leaders of the world but as for baseball, just not gonna get it done.  It would be great to see them break their losing streak in the SCIAC.  Anyone know how many games in a row they have lost in the SCIAC and when their last SCIAC win was?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on January 09, 2009, 01:11:56 PM
Awesome  job JP. I've been trying to reply to your previous post, however, as soon as Ive been trying to send it off (my boss usually walks in.lol)

I like the great assessment on the Leo's you made and thank you for pin-pointing the hitting and pitching for them (as you've done for several other SCIAC teams). As you pointed out, with the Loss of Mehl, Marcus, Boucher, the Leo's need to quickly fill in these big shoes. Having had the opportunity in watching the Leo's within the last two years while in grad. school, I can attest to you that these guys were really good parts that made up solid ULV teams. Even so, losing a defensive arm like Mehl at short stop will indeed be a test for the leos.

However, one can only hope that with such stellar seasons within the last two years, good recruiting, and heck of a way to get ULV's name heard at big pro ball stadiums, such as having ads. at Dodger stadium and Angel stadium, other Mehl, Marcus and Boucher like players will take interest.
The pitching Duo of Sweet and Jolly is indeed one of the Top in the SCIAC, yet, one can not forget players such as Wheatly, Diaz and Kamori (Sp?) who have had experience on the mound within the last year. 
IMHO, the Leo's will make a huge run at the SCIAC crown yet again towards mid/ end of the season.

Wow, Shapiro jumping ship was unexpected here in the D3 virtual world. However, like you pointed out and after seeing his numbers since the last couple of years, its understandable why he wanted to leave. I hope, though, that it wasn't because he was tried of being in a program that always started off really hot and then usually crashes during spring break.

Anywho's keep it coming. Look for Cal Lu to be the surprise team pick this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 10, 2009, 09:36:20 PM
Next up on the list is my preview for OXY.  I know BrownEagle isn't going to like this one too much but what can I say?

Offense

When you first look at the '08 stats for Oxy you notice they hit over .300 as a team but they only won 15 games.  Oxy has a huge hill to climb if they want to turn their program into something other than a below average SCIAC team.

Oxy has some decent hitters coming back in '09 but lost their two best bats from '08.  Coming back for Oxy is Glen Gray who hit a pretty nice .373 with 28 RBI's in '08.  Case Miyahira hit .327 with 11 doubles as a freshman.  Jason Jebbia hit .383 in limited action (60 at bats).  Other than those three, there is not much to write home about.

Oxy is losing Matt Anderson who had a good year hitting .348 with 11 doubles, 5 triples, 4 home runs and 36 RBI.  Anderson was by far the best player for Oxy the past few years.  Also gone is Seth Goss who hit .365 with 11 doubles and 6 home runs in '08.

Pitching

Ughhh, thats about all I can say.  Oxy has been beat up on the mound a lot the past few years.  The good news for '09 is that they have 4 of their main guys coming back...the bad news is the numbers they put up in '08.

Matt Jones and Brooks Belter both won 4 games in '08.  Jones went 4-6 with a 5.05 ERA and Belter was 4-3 with a 5.32 ERA.  Noel Banuelos was 2-5 with a 7.46 ERA and Kiernan Doherty went 2-5 with an 8.01 ERA in '08.  Yikes!

I may seem like I am being hard on Oxy but they have struggled a lot in the recent years.  In 2008 Oxy was 7-3 against La Sierra, Whitman, Lewis and Clark and Cal Tech.  Those 4 schools combined to go approximately (I couldn't find La Sierra's record from '08 but I figured they were around 1-20) 21-107 for a .164 winning percentage.  Oxy went 1-2 against a Whitman team that went 4-36 overall.

Oxy will be with a new leader this year in Jason Hawkins.  Hawkins has his work cut out for him and wasn't able to get a full year of recruiting in.  Hopefully for his sake, Coach Strankman left with some good recruits coming in.

I see Oxy finishing right where they did last year, 7th place.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseballroxmysox on January 10, 2009, 10:28:57 PM
Jack  - GREAT JOB!!!!!!  Thanks for doing this for all us fans :)   I hope you are able to give us insight throughout the season too.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 10, 2009, 11:01:20 PM
No problem at all.  Still have Whittier and Chapman coming up...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on January 12, 2009, 01:01:27 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on January 10, 2009, 09:36:20 PM
Next up on the list is my preview for OXY.  I know BrownEagle isn't going to like this one too much but what can I say?
Offense

You got that right J.P..... I'm not starting to like this one review in particular (Lol. Just kidding) Keep up the great work.

However, just to let you know my Tigers Finish in the top 5 this year (I say #4 or #3 :P)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 12, 2009, 01:15:25 PM
Not so fast BE- http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2007-08/standings
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on January 13, 2009, 12:26:21 AM
I was talking about this upcoming season JP.  :) I have high hopes for Oxy baseball this year with the Addition of Coach Hawkins and Co.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 13, 2009, 02:43:09 AM
Oops!  I guess I saw the boss coming and read too fast.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on January 13, 2009, 12:40:48 PM
No Worries. I'm looking forward to your review on the Poets and the SCIAC-Co Champs, comparing their stats and possible outcomes. Again, thanks for the insights. As i mentioned to you, I hope this sparks an early interest in SCIAC baseball and get this board popping with guess, critics, fans, gurus et al.  etc.

Early talk of baseball during basketball season, hmm, i like how that sounds.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 13, 2009, 01:15:19 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on January 13, 2009, 12:40:48 PM
No Worries. I'm looking forward to your review on the Poets and the SCIAC-Co Champs, comparing their stats and possible outcomes. Again, thanks for the insights. As i mentioned to you, I hope this sparks an early interest in SCIAC baseball and get this board popping with guess, critics, fans, gurus et al.  etc.

Early talk of baseball during basketball season, hmm, i like how that sounds.

Speaking of early talk, I stumbled across MLB's new TV channel, MLBN. It might be the greatest channel ever. Nothing gets me ready for the season like MLB Hot Stove talk. It is also great to see Harold Reynolds back on the air.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 14, 2009, 02:23:26 AM
Here is my final preview for the SCIAC.

Whittier has always been a good hitting team, but like most teams in the SCIAC, they lack pitching.  Whittier struggled on the mound in '08 with a 7.11 ERA and had a .330 BA against them.  Whittier lost one of their top arms when Thomas phelps signed with the Orioles.  Unless Whittier brought in some new quality arms, they will once again struggle in 2009.

Offense

Whittier returns one of the best hitters in the SCIAC in Anthony Cappelletti.  Cappelletti put together a very impressive '08 season when he hit .427 with 10 doubles and 11 home runs and 53 RBI.  Also back for Whittier is Brian Carmona.  Carmona hit .379 with 16 doubles and 6 home runs.  Rounding out the top returners for Whittier is John Fugazi.  Fugazi hit a respectable .306 with 8 doubles and 4 triples.  Not a lot of power from Rugazi but he did steal 12 bases.

Whittier loses Charles Acker who had a great '08 season .361 with 12 doubles, 2 triples and 5 home runs.  Whittier will miss Ackers speed after he swiped 19 bases in 21 tries.

Pitching

Whittier will have to replace both Phelps and Blake Luitweiler, who combined for an 8-8 record in 17 starts.  Back for Whitter is Justin Armijo.  Armijo had a rough '08 season posting a 3-6 resord in 13 starts with a 6.45 ERA.  The biggest problem with Armijo is giving up the long ball.  Armijo gave up 12 bombs in 74 innings.  Hitter hit .324 against Armijo in '08.  Whittier also returns Martin Bueno who finished '08 with a 2-3 record and a 6.89 ERA.

Overall Whitter has a lot of work to do on the mound.  Like I mentioned before, Whittier brings back some pretty good bats but needs some help on the bump.  I look for a 6th place finish from the Poets in '09.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 14, 2009, 02:54:06 AM
I will do a preview for the "SCIAC Co-Champion" Chapman panther now.  It's no secret that Chapman is the top D-III program in So. Cal, as well as the West region.  Chapman loses a lot but I am sure they will do just fine in bringing in many new faces to keep their tradition rolling.

Offense

Chapman hit .345 as a team in '08 and will lose some guys and bring some back as well.  Every Chapman regular hit over .300 with the exception of one guy.  Chapman returns their top hitter from last year Tristian Phillips.  Phillips hit .394 with 10 doubles and 4 home runs.  Ryan Hall returns after hitting .357 with 7 doubles and one HR.  Patrick O'Hail hit .337 with 9 doubles and 8 hr's.  Ryan Prechtel also returns after hitting .337 with 12 doubles and 2 hr's.

Chapman loses some very potent bats in Mike Vass, Kurt Yacko and Stuart Hyman.  Vass had a monster year hitting .382 with 11 doubles and 14 home runs and added 54 RBI. Vass also stole 18 bases in 24 tries. Yacko was important in the field and on the mound.  Yacko hit .344 with 14 doubles and 10 hr's.  Stuart Hyman hit .373 with 17 doubles and 6 home runs.  These 3 hit 30 home runs, which is more than half of the team total in '08. 

Pitching

Pitching has always been Chapman's top area and they return one of the best in D-III in Wayde Kitchens.  Kitchens was 9-0 in 11 starts last year with a crazy 1.10 ERA.  Kitchens probably would have won more game had he not had an minor injury early in the year.  Also back for Chapman is Jordan Sigman.  Sigman had a great freshman year posting a 10-2 record with a 5.38 ERA.

Chapman loses Ryan Clear and Kurt Yacko.  Clear was 9-2 with a 4.22 ERA in 15 starts.  Yacko is a guy that will be very tough to replace.  Not only was he a great hitter, he was one of the best closers in the country in '08.  Yacko posted a 6-0 record with a .59 ERA.  Yacko had 15 saves and hitters only hit .144 off of him.  Yacko also had 71k's in 61 innings.

All in all, Chapman loses 15 wins from their pitching staff in '08 and returns 25 wins. 

Chapman has dominated So. Cal in the recent years and I look for the same from them this year.  Chapman has too many weapons coming back in '09 to drop from the top spot in So.Cal.


*I will post this in the West Region Independents as well.  Maybe Chakote can add a little insight as well, but it is understandable if he holds back.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SCIACfan5 on January 14, 2009, 03:31:57 AM
So Jack, this is what I'm getting from your SCIAC previews '09:

Pomona-Pitzer (1st)
La Verne (2nd - 4th)
Redlands (2nd or 3rd)
Cal Lutheran (3rd - 5th)
CMS (4th or 5th)
Whittier (6th)
Occidental (7th)
Cal Tech (8th)

Also, you expect Chapman to dominate the West Region again. Does that mean win the West Regional Title for a 5th straight year? That would be an establishment of sheer dominance (and something I wouldn't be suprised to see if it happened). Although I'd like to see a SCIAC team represent the West. Was it Cal Lutheran who was the last to represent the West?

Anyway, I'm curious to see how SCIAC teams will do against a Yacko-less Chapman. He was their go-to pitcher in most tight games. Who will fill that role for '09? Whoever it is, I doubt he will do it as effectively.

This is going to be a fun season!

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 14, 2009, 01:23:07 PM
Thats pretty close to what I had thought at first but I will wait until the '09 rosters are put up to make an "official" pre-season ranking.  LaVerne has their '09 roster up and I honestly don't think they did a whole lot to help them out.  They are going to have to rely on their pitching and win that way, not by scoring 13 runs a game.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on January 14, 2009, 03:55:40 PM
Quote from: SCIACfan5 on January 14, 2009, 03:31:57 AM
So Jack, this is what I'm getting from your SCIAC previews '09:

Pomona-Pitzer (1st)
La Verne (2nd - 4th)
Redlands (2nd or 3rd)
Cal Lutheran (3rd - 5th)
CMS (4th or 5th)
Whittier (6th)
Occidental (7th)
Cal Tech (8th)

Also, you expect Chapman to dominate the West Region again. Does that mean win the West Regional Title for a 5th straight year? That would be an establishment of sheer dominance (and something I wouldn't be suprised to see if it happened). Although I'd like to see a SCIAC team represent the West. Was it Cal Lutheran who was the last to represent the West?
Anyway, I'm curious to see how SCIAC teams will do against a Yacko-less Chapman. He was their go-to pitcher in most tight games. Who will fill that role for '09? Whoever it is, I doubt he will do it as effectively.

This is going to be a fun season!



Cal Lu was the last SCIAC team to rep. the west. If i'm correct (or not, it would have been the 02 or 03 year. That team of course had steller bats and great pitching.

The Panthers will do just fine. Why???? well since winning their 4th west Region in Talent Rich (Baseball that is ) Southern Cal, this gives good ball players from around here another school of choice and program to go to.
Chapman's pitching staff of Kitchens, Luzar and Sigmond looks scarry, and their batting ; well i'll let the panthers speak for themselves.

Should be a another good year for Chapman.

Speaking of, I don't think the Poets reach higher than 5th place. Here's a team that will struggle from the start and probabily start trying to climb to the top at the very end. Expect them to be in 5th place after the season. Not to much talent here. 

Believe me, in reading stories about So.cal players wanting to go to a small program/ school like Chapman in Local newspapers and wanting to further build a great program has been great (kids are starting to recognize the D3 baseball world.)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 14, 2009, 04:59:19 PM
I believe it was 1999 when the last SCIAC team represented the West.  Cal Lu had a great run in the 90's but has been dominated by Chapman ever since.  I think the only other teams to represent the West in the W.S. are George Fox '04(National title) and Concordia University, Austin in '02.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 14, 2009, 11:55:53 PM
Since LaVerne has posted their roster, I will do a short break-down of what they have in '09.

LaVerne brings back over 600 at bats from last year and almost 200 hits.  The guys returning were 197/614 for a .321 batting average.  That also includes 14 home runs, 38 doubles and 24 stolen bases.  I think it is obvious, LaVerne lost a TON of offense.

LaVerne brings back 70% of the innings from '08.  I think they will have a very similar pitching staff from '08, but will miss Jimmy Wilfong and Ryan Rose a lot.  Other than freshman, the only guy LaVerne brought in is a JC transfer from Texas who was 1-3 with an 8.54 ERA in 32.2 innings.

I coulnd't find any stats on JC transfer Kevin Ibarra or Victor Pinado.  I finally found Pinado's '07 stats from Rio Hondo.  He hit .356 with 15 doubles and 10 home runs.


After all of the rosters are up I will make my final prediction, but as of now, I don't see LaVerne winning the SCIAC again.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: swede on January 17, 2009, 04:00:47 PM
SCIAC Fans,

Be it Redlands, Laverne or whoever comes up to Mac town for the west regionals I sure could use a old jersey, hat or something from your team to help fill up my D3 room. I have numerous schools from around the country now but still am in need. As of now I don't have anything out of the SCIAC. If you or someone you know might come up please let me know and we can touch bases. Does not have to be anything new.

Linfield, George Fox and PLU are the schools to watch in the NWC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 20, 2009, 02:34:09 PM
Looking at the latest Baseball America D-I preview, it looks as if Alex Weber-Shapiro is slated to start at 1st base for UCLA.  What a step up for a guy who did really well in D-III.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SCIACfan5 on January 23, 2009, 12:09:03 AM
Jack.

What do you think of the D3Baseball rankings including Chapman at #2 while Redlands and La Verne were notables?

And how many top 25 teams will be facing SCIAC teams this year? I know Ithaca almost always make it out here. I believe Pac Lutheran plays several SCIAC teams. And I read that Keene State will be facing PP in Phoenix.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 23, 2009, 12:17:02 AM
Quote from: SCIACfan5 on January 23, 2009, 12:09:03 AM
Jack.

What do you think of the D3Baseball rankings including Chapman at #2 while Redlands and La Verne were notables?

And how many top 25 teams will be facing SCIAC teams this year? I know Ithaca almost always make it out here. I believe Pac Lutheran plays several SCIAC teams. And I read that Keene State will be facing PP in Phoenix.

To be honest with you, I see no reason why any SCIAC team should be mentioned in the top 25.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BILLY CHAPEL on January 25, 2009, 02:37:16 PM
I have to say i agree that no team from the SCIAC that is in the top 25 should be there, but one team that is not on the list should be there. That team is Cal Lu, they are going to break the slump this year and win the SCIAC. This isn't wishfull thinking this is truth talking. There pitching staff is to deep to compete with, and they have a solid lineup that will grind at bats from top to bottom! Leading the way Paul Hartman and David Iden
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SCIACfan5 on January 25, 2009, 07:00:42 PM
I expect Cal Lutheran to make some noise in the SCIAC as well, but I don't know if they have the talent to top La Verne, Redlands, AND Pomona-Pitzer.

But we'll just have to wait and find out!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ullcme41 on January 26, 2009, 05:49:11 PM
They have much more talent than the rest of that league!! 5 pitchers that scrape 90 two that hit 93, a solid lineup from top to bottom, with David Iden and Paul hartmann leading the group, and a big lefthanded bat with Dingman from Chico, Ott might come back healthy, and you got tough at bats through 9 with solid stick ur nose in the dirt players, trust me the boys can play!!! Not to mention two horses coming back from tommy jon in Mike Roe and Rob LeBaron who were starters in 2007 and pitched most of that year injured! They might not even START! You get those boys out of the bullpen in any game past the 6th, Seldin Roe LeBaron, Its good night thanks for making the trip!

And NO i dont play for Cal lu
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 27, 2009, 07:52:25 AM
Quote from: Ullcme41 on January 26, 2009, 05:49:11 PM
They have much more talent than the rest of that league!! 5 pitchers that scrape 90 two that hit 93, a solid lineup from top to bottom, with David Iden and Paul hartmann leading the group, and a big lefthanded bat with Dingman from Chico, Ott might come back healthy, and you got tough at bats through 9 with solid stick ur nose in the dirt players, trust me the boys can play!!! Not to mention two horses coming back from tommy jon in Mike Roe and Rob LeBaron who were starters in 2007 and pitched most of that year injured! They might not even START! You get those boys out of the bullpen in any game past the 6th, Seldin Roe LeBaron, Its good night thanks for making the trip!

And NO i dont play for Cal lu

WOW! If this is true (Which it isn't) then ALL of the experts are wrong.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ullcme41 on January 27, 2009, 01:31:19 PM
How do you go about saying it isn't true? So Dingman doesnt go there? Iden and Hartmann quit? LeBaron and Roe aren't back from Tommy Jon? Tigert and Casillas dont hit 93? and there lineup doesnt grind out at bats?  ???

Oh my bad i must have been making these players up, sorry experts ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 27, 2009, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: Ullcme41 on January 27, 2009, 01:31:19 PM
How do you go about saying it isn't true? So Dingman doesnt go there? Iden and Hartmann quit? LeBaron and Roe aren't back from Tommy Jon? Tigert and Casillas dont hit 93? and there lineup doesnt grind out at bats?  ???

Oh my bad i must have been making these players up, sorry experts ;D

We never claimed to be experts, but your attitude is wrong. Good luck this spring with anybody actually reading your wildly erratic rants.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ullcme41 on January 27, 2009, 02:00:47 PM

WOW! If this is true (Which it isn't) then ALL of the experts are wrong.
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You didn't say experts??? looks like my eyes are getting the best of me again
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 28, 2009, 08:29:05 AM
Ullcme- talking to you is like talking to a three year old.  Of course I said experts, but what I did not claim is that I was an expert, which you assumed I considered myself one. You have hole after hole in nearly every single one of the "arguments" you have created in the past two days.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ullcme41 on January 28, 2009, 01:58:35 PM
Please do share with me where my holes are...All you have done,without any true information to back it, is say no they don't throw that hard! So im confused who is the three year old here? I give you information about a team and your responses are basically nope, naw, and no! Sounds like someone doesn't like to be disagreed with?  Now if you have some useful information u'd like to bring to the discussion, not "argument", please feel free to join, i think we all would love to read your "inside information"!! ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 28, 2009, 03:39:42 PM
Here is my background:
* four year starter on a nationally ranked D3 team
* 3 time all conference player
* 3 time all region player
* four time participant in the NCAA post-season
* three-time participant in the NCAA D3 World Series
* in the past I have been an assistant coach at both the college and junior college level in Southern California as well as a Head coach of a college and high school program in Southern California

Maybe I am coming off a little bit hard on you, and for that I apologize. I do have tons of access to the "inside information" as I am friends with many college coaches around the nation, but I have agreements with them to keep what we speak about "off the record." I try to allude to what I know without divulging more than I feel I can on a message board out of respect for my colleagues and the professional relationships we have established.

In fact, I made a phone call last night to a colleague in the SCIAC and he burst out laughing when I told him how "hard" the Cal Lu guys were supposedly throwing.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ullcme41 on January 28, 2009, 04:22:50 PM
First off congrats on your achievments in your D3 career, what school did you attend?
Second I would laugh too if I didn't actually see these numbers light up on the radar gun, and know these players first hand. Who's to say the perform as well as they have this fall. But i sure do like there chances, Im sure the coach who you talk to laughs because he probably thinks I am Slimak haha, very far from him that is for sure! I know it comes as a stretch to the imagination, but trust me on this it is not a hoax sir.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on January 30, 2009, 01:01:38 PM
Quote from: Ullcme41 on January 28, 2009, 04:22:50 PM
First off congrats on your achievments in your D3 career, what school did you attend?
Second I would laugh too if I didn't actually see these numbers light up on the radar gun, and know these players first hand. Who's to say the perform as well as they have this fall. But i sure do like there chances, Im sure the coach who you talk to laughs because he probably thinks I am Slimak haha, very far from him that is for sure! I know it comes as a stretch to the imagination, but trust me on this it is not a hoax sir.

Lol. Your Bold Predictions are funny Ullcme44. The fact that you point out that Cal Lu has a good pitching staff is awesome, but, they do not have any bats what so ever. I once used to think that pitching alone could get it done, however, i was wrong when i found out that all it takes to go against a one dimenion team is a team that has good bats. Don't get me wrong here, Cal Lu is a good program (i picked them as my surprise team this year... see previous post) However, they will not get it done with their arms alone. They need bats.

It will come done to The Leo's, Pups and Then hens yet again. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on January 30, 2009, 01:06:18 PM
Speaking of, Holly smokes, it's Friday and there's baseball at the Rock. If i can manage to finish my grades on time I may just be able to catch my Tigers opening day game (crossing my fingers that I can get 185 grades into my systems without probs.). Heres to a good season Tigers. Awesome weather will definately help my tigers to their first win of the season against the Golden Eagles of La Sierra. (Low 80's. Clear blue sky's, and that awesome view atop Anderson field (near Stewie Hall) Got to love so.cal and the start of Oxy baseball. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 30, 2009, 01:42:21 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on January 30, 2009, 01:06:18 PM
Low 80's. Clear blue sky's, 

I wish I could punch you through the computer screen... it was a balmy 15 below zero in the Twin Cities this morning. That's only a 95 degree difference between the two places.

I am really missing the SoCal weather right now.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 30, 2009, 01:44:21 PM
PLAAAAAAYYYYYYY BALLLLLLLL ;D

Good luck to OXY, Whittier and Cal Lutheran today as they all open up their seasons.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 30, 2009, 08:37:46 PM
Whittier 10- Chapman 8 :o

Cal Lutheran 6- Westmont 5
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 30, 2009, 08:53:45 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on January 30, 2009, 08:37:46 PM
Whittier 10- Chapman 8 :o

Cal Lutheran 6- Westmont 5

The Whittier win is in-region!

Who started for both teams?

(Whittier comes to McMurry on February 13th!)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on January 30, 2009, 09:02:47 PM
JP, you sure its not the other way around on the score there. There is no way the Poets coud of have beaten the #2 team in the Nation. Unless, former Poet QB Josh Shcurlock and a tricky/ short alumni named Richard Nixon both threw a gem of a game against the SCIAC co-champs.  

Just for FYI, i had the opportunity to stop by the Rock (Anderson field) and quickly watch the Tigers v.s Golden Eagles game this afternoon and enjoyed how the score board would soon favor my Tigers. Upon arriving at the Top of the 3rd, both schools where sitting with one score a piece. However, it wasn't until the middle of the 3rd that the tiger bats and bunting started to work. (especially with Richard Veihl's grand slam starting it off). By the end of the 3rd, the Tigers were up 10 to 1 while the Eagles were in desperate need of pitching. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to stick around for the rest of the game and wish I could have since the afternoon was so similar to the spring afternoons back when I attended Oxy bball games after bio labs or Bio Classes.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 30, 2009, 09:36:06 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 30, 2009, 08:53:45 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on January 30, 2009, 08:37:46 PM
Whittier 10- Chapman 8 :o

Cal Lutheran 6- Westmont 5

The Whittier win is in-region!

Who started for both teams?

http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/stats/wcbb01.htm

Kitchens for Chapman and Armijo for Whittier.  Kitchens gave up 5 earned 6 1/3.

(Whittier comes to McMurry on February 13th!)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 30, 2009, 09:43:04 PM
OXY wins 12-8.  Ho-hum.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 30, 2009, 10:35:19 PM
http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/stats/wcbb01.htm

Hard to tell much about that game.  Kitchens was doing okay until the 6th.

Armijo got hit for Whittier.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 31, 2009, 12:17:48 AM
If it tells me one thing it tells me Chapman is REALLY going to miss Yacko.  Last year, the second any starter got in trouble he would come in and stop the bleeding.  Today, when the bleeding started, it got worse!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on January 31, 2009, 08:25:29 AM
Perspective: Kitchens ceded 12 runs (9 earned) all of last year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SCIACfan5 on January 31, 2009, 08:50:33 PM
Any word about games 2 and 3 at Chapman?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DIIIBASEBALLFAN on January 31, 2009, 09:16:57 PM
Chapman wins game 2 and loses game 3 with Whittier today

Details to come later.......
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 31, 2009, 09:55:36 PM
A few things about the Chapman/Whittier series...

1.  Levitt might not step foot on the field again this year.
2.  No matter what you think, Chapman is already missing Yacko very, very much.
3.  I for one sure did not see this coming.  I really expect Whittier to struggle this year.
4.  Chapman better figure it out fast.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseballroxmysox on January 31, 2009, 10:34:28 PM
Levitt is a Freshman and was put in a tough situation both days.  Give him some time to develop... he will be fine

And yes Chapman is lacking a closer like Yacko, but there are a lot of "Yacko's" out there, Chapman will just have to groom one.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 31, 2009, 11:05:40 PM
Quote from: baseballroxmysox on January 31, 2009, 10:34:28 PM
Levitt is a Freshman and was put in a tough situation both days.  Give him some time to develop... he will be fine

And yes Chapman is lacking a closer like Yacko, but there are a lot of "Yacko's" out there, Chapman will just have to groom one.

I have seen Chapman bring a lot freshmen into games but never with this kind of result.  I think he will have a long road back to earning some more innings.  Maybe I am wrong, who knows.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 31, 2009, 11:46:36 PM
We can compare the relative strengths.

Chapman plays 3 in Abilene next weekend, and then Whittier goes to Abilene for a game versus McMurry and Methodist on Feb 13th & 14th.

If Chapman doesn't have its bearings yet, then we should hope to jump on them early!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: HotSoupTrio on February 01, 2009, 12:21:50 PM
I know it's early but does that performance by Kitchens eliminate him for National Pitcher of the Year Consideration?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SCIACfan5 on February 01, 2009, 12:27:25 PM
Whittier definitely took advantage of a Yacko-less Chapman. I wonder if Chapman will have their bullpen situated soon because other teams will surely exploit this weakness.

Also, wasn't Luzar suppose to be their 3rd starter? Perhaps they needed a proven arm in the bullpen rather than go with strictly unexperienced relief? Maybe a Chapman fan can clear this one up.

Quote from: HotSoupTrio on February 01, 2009, 12:21:50 PM
I know it's early but does that performance by Kitchens eliminate him for National Pitcher of the Year Consideration?


I doubt it. He can still turn it around this early in the season. But really, who knows?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DIIIBASEBALLFAN on February 01, 2009, 02:15:50 PM
Link to Box Scores for Chapman / Whittier Games
http://www1.chapman.edu/athletics/08-09/baseball/teamstat.htm
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dgilblair on February 01, 2009, 03:19:44 PM
Quote from: DIIIBASEBALLFAN on February 01, 2009, 02:15:50 PM
Link to Box Scores for Chapman / Whittier Games
http://www1.chapman.edu/athletics/08-09/baseball/teamstat.htm


Chapman -1 error in three games
Whittier -10 errors in three games

You would think the results would have been the opposite of what they were.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DIIIBASEBALLFAN on February 01, 2009, 07:02:09 PM
CHAPMAN
41 Hits 25 Runs, 9 Stolen Bases, only 1 error  31 left on base !!

Pitchers had 21 strikeouts, and only 3 walks, 20 scoreless innings.

WHITTIER
29 hits 22 runs 1 stolen base 10 errors 17 left on base 

Whittier played hard,  never quit and got back into the game to give them the chance to win. KEY hits at the right times was the difference for Whittier.

I would not count Chapman out so soon. There were some bright spots on offense and defensively and even pitching. A few key plays were the difference.   

Another Orange County team back in 2004..... Cal State Fullerton was 15-16 as of April and ending up reaching the College World Series






Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 01, 2009, 07:05:48 PM
CLU 5
Simpson 4  (12 innings)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 01, 2009, 07:15:38 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 01, 2009, 07:05:48 PM
CLU 5
Simpson 4  (California not Iowa) (12 innings)
;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 01, 2009, 09:16:45 PM
Oh yeah, my bad Ralph, it was Simpson from CA, not Iowa. Thanks for keeping me in line.

Overall, a decent weekend for the SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 01, 2009, 09:22:46 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 01, 2009, 09:16:45 PM
Oh yeah, my bad Ralph, it was Simpson from CA, not Iowa. Thanks for keeping me in line.

Overall, a decent weekend for the SCIAC.
:D

I knew.  You knew. I knew that you knew.

I just wanted to keep those crazy frozen Iowans clear that the Simpson (Iowa) Storm had not escaped the brutal winter to play some baseball in sunny California.  :D ;D 8)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseballroxmysox on February 01, 2009, 10:35:53 PM
Quote from: DIIIBASEBALLFAN on February 01, 2009, 07:02:09 PM
CHAPMAN
41 Hits 25 Runs, 9 Stolen Bases, only 1 error  31 left on base !!

Pitchers had 21 strikeouts, and only 3 walks, 20 scoreless innings.

WHITTIER
29 hits 22 runs 1 stolen base 10 errors 17 left on base 

Whittier played hard,  never quit and got back into the game to give them the chance to win. KEY hits at the right times was the difference for Whittier.

I would not count Chapman out so soon. There were some bright spots on offense and defensively and even pitching. A few key plays were the difference.   

Another Orange County team back in 2004..... Cal State Fullerton was 15-16 as of April and ending up reaching the College World Series


WOW - Chapman left 31 on base..  How many were in scoring position???
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 02, 2009, 09:21:50 AM
Regardless of the tough weekend, Chapman will still be in a position to make an impact when all is said and done. Coach Tereschek will figure it out and get them back on a roll soon.

I expect Kitchens to re-focus and get back on track and also expect those 31 runners left on base to somehow find the plate. Chapman stealing 10 bases does not bode well for Whittier's chances against the SCIAC teams that like to run. 

Maybe Whittier is not as down as expected and maybe Chapman is not as good as expected. either way, it is a great weekend for both teams. Whittier is flying high right now and Chapman has a reason to work even harder in practice starting today.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wringemup on February 03, 2009, 11:04:35 AM

Looks like game 1 of the double-header was very Chapman-esque (starter goes 7, closer finishes 2 scoreless). For anyone who was there, what was the difference in that game? As was noted, Chapman is hitting the ball. Seems like they gave away the 2 losses late. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DIIIBASEBALLFAN on February 03, 2009, 04:20:58 PM
Game 1 Friday  7 to 3 after 6 Chapman was up

Game 3 Saturday 6 to 0 after 5 1/2 Chapman was up

Whittier fought back to tie and go ahead after this
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: nvnorthpaw on February 04, 2009, 02:00:47 PM
I believe someone earlier was doubting the validity of a statement regarding Cal Lu.  I personally have watched every fall practice will go out on a limb and say they will take the SCIAC crown this year as long as everyone stays healthy.  The pitching staff went from decent to unbelievable with the additions of Tigert(USF transfer and top draft prospect in D3 btw), Gelber(CSUF transfer), Larson(GWC), Lebaron(tj surgery), Roe(tj surgery), and a few impressive freshman.  There are easily seven guys that can and will touch 90, and Gelber has an excellent shot at leading the nation in Wins this season. 

For everyone that is basing their opinions based strictly on last years squad, you are making a monumental mistake.  Slimak did an excellent job at bringing in several transfers from the D-II and JC level to provide a little extra bang on the offensive side of the ball.  Each and every player on the roster can hit it out of the park with the exception of maybe two. 

Overall it isn't the offense, pitching, or defense that is going to drive this team to national contention this spring, it is the character.  Every single guy out on that field plays baseball the way baseball shold be played and will do anything to win.  I HIGHLY advise you do not underestimate this squad this coming spring.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 04, 2009, 07:42:01 PM
I may be wrong but I believe Redlands lost at Cal Baptist today 9-8.  It was really hard to follow the game because the live-stats Cal Baptist uses look like they were developed by a 3rd grader.  Looks like Redlands hit the crap out of the ball, but their pitching and D were questionable.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bbnag101 on February 04, 2009, 08:26:55 PM
Looks like Pomona-Pitzer beat Westmont College yesterday 5 - 4 . 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 04, 2009, 10:31:49 PM
Pardon me, but I am going to rant a little here...

Do SCIAC schools care about baseball yet?  I can not find a box score from Oxy's double-header with La Sierra, a score for Wednesdays Pomona/Westmont game, a 2009 roster for CMS or Pomona.....

I checked the SDCC site and they don't even have today's game with La Verne on their schedule, and neither does the GSAC site!


Ok, I feel better now ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 04, 2009, 10:37:07 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 04, 2009, 10:31:49 PM
Pardon me, but I am going to rant a little here...

Do SCIAC schools care about baseball yet?
  I can not find a box score from Oxy's double-header with La Sierra, a score for Wednesdays Pomona/Westmont game, a 2009 roster for CMS or Pomona.....

I checked the SDCC site and they don't even have today's game with La Verne on their schedule, and neither does the GSAC site!


Ok, I feel better now ;D


Why do you think that the Rams left LA for St Louis!   :D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 04, 2009, 10:48:18 PM
Lol, I told you so....

No, I think all the SCIAC SID are more preoccupied with SCIAC basketball as of now. With My Tigers hoping to reach for the top, Cal Who actually looking good and other bball teams making some noise, we wont be hearding anything just yet. Of course it will be awesome to know how the Tigers and other teams did on saturday, but hey, i guess this is were we wait.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on February 04, 2009, 11:05:12 PM
Sagecocks lost a tough one today 6-5. They were up 5-0 going in to the seventh and westmont strung together a couple key hits to make it 5-4. The PP bats died and Westmont added 2 more in the ninth to pull ahead.
As for yesterday's 5-4 win, Drew Hedman showed why he's a perennial all-american (pre and post season) by going 3-4 with an rbi double and 2 HR's. Added a hit or two today as well. Additionally sophomore sensation David Colvin threw 7 innings tuesday only giving up 2 unearned runs.
If the Cocks can get their bats going, and i'm certain they will, they are scary. Bullpen looks questionable though...

Also, any news on the Stags' trip to Point Loma? Website says 10-4 loss but no box score.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 04, 2009, 11:15:39 PM
Thanks for the update!

Hedman is starting out as we expected!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bbnag101 on February 05, 2009, 02:02:36 AM
Quote from: P-P Fan on February 04, 2009, 11:05:12 PM
Also, any news on the Stags' trip to Point Loma? Website says 10-4 loss but no box score.

It is posted on Point Loma website: http://www.pointloma.edu/Assets/PLNU/Athletics/Baseball/2009Box/2-3.htm#GAME.NCA (http://www.pointloma.edu/Assets/PLNU/Athletics/Baseball/2009Box/2-3.htm#GAME.NCA)

Score by Innings                                   R  H  E
-------------------------------------------
Claremont...........        300 010 000 -       4 11  2
Point Loma Nazarene.   000 200 17X -      10  7  0
-------------------------------------------

Game highlights: http://www.pointloma.edu/Athletics/AthleticsEvents/Baseball_vs__Claremont.htm (http://www.pointloma.edu/Athletics/AthleticsEvents/Baseball_vs__Claremont.htm)

Sounds like they had one bad innning.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 05, 2009, 07:41:44 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 04, 2009, 10:31:49 PM
Pardon me, but I am going to rant a little here...

Do SCIAC schools care about baseball yet?  I can not find a box score from Oxy's double-header with La Sierra, a score for Wednesdays Pomona/Westmont game, a 2009 roster for CMS or Pomona.....

I checked the SDCC site and they don't even have today's game with La Verne on their schedule, and neither does the GSAC site!


Ok, I feel better now ;D

As a former GSAC baseball coach, I can honestly tell you that I was once told by my SID (and I am sure it is the same at other places), "we do not worry about baseball until basketball is done." It made it nearly impossible to recruit as our game stats and stories often showed up two weeks AFTER it was played.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 05, 2009, 12:59:49 PM
According to La Verne's Athletic website, The Leo's suffered a big loss to San Diego C.C. by a score of 9-3.
By now SDCC has played 5 games (a couple against a good Biola team) compared to the Leo's 1st season openner game. Don't look down on the Leo's just yet, I am sure they will start to warm-up.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 05, 2009, 01:45:06 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on February 05, 2009, 12:59:49 PM
According to La Verne's Athletic website, The Leo's suffered a big loss to San Diego C.C. by a score of 9-3.
By now SDCC has played 5 games (a couple against a good Biola team) compared to the Leo's 1st season openner game. Don't look down on the Leo's just yet, I am sure they will start to warm-up.



SDCC is an NAIA scholarship school.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on February 06, 2009, 10:07:25 AM
Item about Oxy baseball in the Whittier Daily News (http://www.whittierdailynews.com/sports/ci_11639652):

QuoteThe Tigers are ... turning over a new leaf, with a new coach.

"This year's squad has undergone a great deal of change in the way of culture," new coach Jason Hawkins said. "They are learning a new system and a new way of going about their business. We have been very impressed with their adaptability and I am encouraged by our ability to potentially consistently compete at a high level."

The Tigers have strength on the mound with four players with experience, including two-time All-SCIAC second teamer Matthew Jones.

The senior will be joined by sophomore Ross Pomerantz, senior Noel Banuelos and sophomore Brooks Belter. Junior Glenn Gray, the leading hitter last season (.373) also returns.

The Tigers are 3-0 and have a three-game series against Whitman College starting today at Oxy.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 06, 2009, 11:14:52 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 05, 2009, 01:45:06 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on February 05, 2009, 12:59:49 PM
According to La Verne's Athletic website, The Leo's suffered a big loss to San Diego C.C. by a score of 9-3.
By now SDCC has played 5 games (a couple against a good Biola team) compared to the Leo's 1st season openner game. Don't look down on the Leo's just yet, I am sure they will start to warm-up.



SDCC is an NAIA scholarship school.
Respectfully, I cannot find SDCC in this list of NAIA schools.

Are you sure that they are not a JuCo?

http://naia.cstv.com/member-services/about/members.htm
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 06, 2009, 01:45:52 PM
I know it is a pretty new athletic program that is an NAIA member, unless my eyes are fuzzy, it says so on the bottom of this page...

http://www.sdcc.edu/Athletics.aspx?id=1150
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on February 06, 2009, 02:02:31 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 06, 2009, 11:14:52 AM
Respectfully, I cannot find SDCC in this list of NAIA schools.

Are you sure that they are not a JuCo?

http://naia.cstv.com/member-services/about/members.htm

Scroll down to S.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 06, 2009, 02:07:30 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on February 06, 2009, 02:02:31 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 06, 2009, 11:14:52 AM
Respectfully, I cannot find SDCC in this list of NAIA schools.

Are you sure that they are not a JuCo?

http://naia.cstv.com/member-services/about/members.htm

Scroll down to S.

OxyBob

Hahaha, I have to admit I didn't see it there at first.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 07, 2009, 09:56:00 PM
Looks like Oxy took game one of a double-header today with Whitman, and they were stopped in game 2 by rain.  Game one ends up 11-6 and game 2 was stopped at 13-11.  The SCIAC wepage says they were in the bottome of the 9th, but why would they not just call it there if Oxy was up?  I am confused.
Either way, Oxy does not seem to have much pitching, if any at all.  They gave up 17 runs today to a team that hasn't practiced outside.  Sorry Tiger fans, it's going to be a long year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 08, 2009, 03:02:42 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on February 06, 2009, 02:02:31 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 06, 2009, 11:14:52 AM
Respectfully, I cannot find SDCC in this list of NAIA schools.

Are you sure that they are not a JuCo?

http://naia.cstv.com/member-services/about/members.htm

Scroll down to S.

OxyBob
Thanks Bob!  +1!  :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on February 08, 2009, 05:19:36 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 04, 2009, 10:31:49 PM
Pardon me, but I am going to rant a little here...

Do SCIAC schools care about baseball yet? 

Ok, I feel better now ;D
Surf's Up! 8)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: swede on February 08, 2009, 06:05:06 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 07, 2009, 09:56:00 PM
Looks like Oxy took game one of a double-header today with Whitman, and they were stopped in game 2 by rain.  Game one ends up 11-6 and game 2 was stopped at 13-11.  The SCIAC wepage says they were in the bottome of the 9th, but why would they not just call it there if Oxy was up?  I am confused.
Either way, Oxy does not seem to have much pitching, if any at all.  They gave up 17 runs today to a team that hasn't practiced outside.  Sorry Tiger fans, it's going to be a long year.

How does Oxy shape upn the SCIAC? Whitman will probably be in the bottom half of the NWC. I'm getting antsy to watch a SCIAC team in mactown for the west regionals.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 08, 2009, 06:16:46 PM
Quote from: swede on February 08, 2009, 06:05:06 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 07, 2009, 09:56:00 PM
Looks like Oxy took game one of a double-header today with Whitman, and they were stopped in game 2 by rain.  Game one ends up 11-6 and game 2 was stopped at 13-11.  The SCIAC wepage says they were in the bottome of the 9th, but why would they not just call it there if Oxy was up?  I am confused.
Either way, Oxy does not seem to have much pitching, if any at all.  They gave up 17 runs today to a team that hasn't practiced outside.  Sorry Tiger fans, it's going to be a long year.

How does Oxy shape upn the SCIAC? Whitman will probably be in the bottom half of the NWC. I'm getting antsy to watch a SCIAC team in mactown for the west regionals.

Oxy will most likely be very close to the bottom of the SCIAC.  They were taken into Extra Innings by La Sierra, and it took a 9th inning rally for them to come back and clip Whitman in extras on Saturday/Sunday.  I am assuming Oxy had a walk off bomb to win that game in 12.  Oxy pounded them in the final game of the series.  Oxy is 6-0, but their opponents are a combined 0-8.  It's going to take some time for Oxy to compete.  Strankman had them headed in the right direction and left, which will put them that much more behind.  They have a very small roster which tells me the coach either wants it that way, or a bunch of guys quit.  Lets face it too, Whitman is terrible.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: swede on February 08, 2009, 06:23:44 PM
Yes indeed Whitman is terrible. The missionaries are picked to finish last.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 08, 2009, 08:03:09 PM
Holy crap I am confused!  I guess Whitman won the suspended game 15-13.  The SCIAC site has Oxy winning but the Oxy site has Whitman winning ???  Either way, Oxy blasted Whitman in game 3 of the series 28-3.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 08, 2009, 10:42:27 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 08, 2009, 08:03:09 PM
Holy crap I am confused!  I guess Whitman won the suspended game 15-13.  The SCIAC site has Oxy winning but the Oxy site has Whitman winning ???  Either way, Oxy blasted Whitman in game 3 of the series 28-3.
Nothing like having a guy take one for the team in your third game. I feel for the dude who gave up 12 runs and got two outs. And Veihl hit grand slams in consecutive innings off that same guy? Ouch ... hope the Whitman coach at least let him pick his bus seat.

EDIT: Figured I'd spell the dude's name correctly. I mean he did hit two grand slams after all ...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 08, 2009, 10:51:41 PM
Speaking of which, any reason why a coach lets his SP give up (http://www.clusports.com/stats/baseball/2009/0208lsu2.htm) 17 R and 15 H in 1.2 IP?
Here's the Oxy/Whitman box score (http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/stats/wtm-oxy3.htm) I referenced in my prior post. No mercy rule, huh?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 08, 2009, 11:03:50 PM
Quote from: OshDude on February 08, 2009, 10:51:41 PM
Speaking of which, any reason why a coach lets his SP give up (http://www.clusports.com/stats/baseball/2009/0208lsu2.htm) 17 R and 15 H in 1.2 IP?
Here's the Oxy/Whitman box score (http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/stats/wtm-oxy3.htm) I referenced in my prior post. No mercy rule, huh?

Whitman only has 19 guys on their team.  That has got to hurt.

http://www.whitman.edu/whitman/index.cfm?objectid=29368B41-9CE9-97E1-E9D5D05D70BB58E1

"For different reasons, we've lost some guys from a year ago, so we might go to California with just 16 players," he says. "Compensating for that lack of depth by keeping guys healthy is going to be a big key for us this year."

I have no idea how you leave a kid in after giving up that many hits/runs.  That has got to kill the kid.  I have no idea how many guys La Sierra has, but I feel bad for that kid.  The La Sierra pitching gave up 30 earned runs in the double header.  OUCH!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: nvnorthpaw on February 09, 2009, 12:43:50 AM
Anyone else happen to catch the CalLu games yesterday?  Tigert and Gelber sure are going to be a tough duo to beat..  I read someone's earlier post about the CLU offense and how abysmal it was..I know La Sierra isn't exactly amazing, but they put up over 40 runs today including 4 homeruns.  Should be a fun season
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 09, 2009, 01:06:06 PM
Interesting stuff here...

http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2009/feb/09/Sb3FCcallutheran09CLG-fc/
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 09, 2009, 09:42:31 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 09, 2009, 01:06:06 PM
Interesting stuff here...

http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2009/feb/09/Sb3FCcallutheran09CLG-fc/

Indeed interesting stuff occurred through out the SouthLand this weekend J.P. First, the So.Cal skies were covered by dark gray matter that seemed to release water every 30 minutes since friday through sunday afternoon. Secondly, here in So.Cal we hardly play baseball in the rain. Thus why, the poor guys from the Golden Eagle and missionary's gave up so much runs. Had the Sun been out and shining the blue so.cal skies, we would have been seeing scores of 5 to 3 across the boards, but instead  we had to deal with 28's and 23's and 13 doubles. Wow, what a weekend of cold So.cal ball.
Even I stayed away from Anderson field this weekend.
Congrats to my Tigers and the Who for their wins. (of course to all other SCIAC teams as well) :P
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 11, 2009, 01:08:03 AM
Congrats to current Oxy Tiger senior Richard Veihl and SCIAC Co-champ player John Semple in being recognized as part of a group of D3 ball players who are off to a hot start.
Regardless of who both Veihl and Semple's teams have played thus far, just having such recognition for their effort in helping their team win ball games is a big plus. Big props to both of these players and the other two players mentioned as well

From the D3 baseball front pg:
Richie Veihl, a senior third baseman at Occidental College has also made the most of the early season. In the Tigers' opener, Veihl hit his first grand slam of the season and last Sunday connected on two more. Veihl has already surpassed his 2008 numbers (2 HR, 12 RBI) and his four home runs and 14 RBIs currently lead the nation. By far the Veihl had the best game of the weekend with a 4-for-7, three home run and nine RBI performance.

Sophomore outfielder John Semel is the leading hitter for the Chapman Panthers in 2009, having hit safely in every game this season. Second ranked Chapman stumbled out of the gates losing two of three games to the Whittier Poets but are fresh off a three game sweep of in-region foe McMurry over the weekend. In the Panthers' second loss to Whittier, Semel reached base five times, going 4-for-5 with four RBI, including his second home run of the season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 11, 2009, 01:12:32 AM
Speaking of SCIAC baseball and the SCIAC co-champs, both ULV and the Panthers have their first meeting tomorrow afternoon. La Verne is coming off a tough 3-1 loss to Div-II Cal poly Pomona and will need to do it best with its bats if they really want to beat the Panthers this year. Both teams seem to be starting off slow, but, only time will tell how they will grow and get better as the season is in full gear (and no rain has been throwing them off. lol) Should be a good game.
Edge: ULV leos in this game
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: oldcat on February 11, 2009, 01:25:05 AM
I heard a rumor today that Jolly from La Verne quit today. Is this true?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 11, 2009, 01:28:46 AM
Quote from: oldcat on February 11, 2009, 01:25:05 AM
I heard a rumor today that Jolly from La Verne quit today. Is this true?

He started their game today against Cal Poly, Pomona so I would say that it is just a rumor.  Who knows though...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 11, 2009, 10:48:29 AM
I hope it just rumors. The guys on this team need him and his experience. With the loss of top key players from last year, he needs to understand that he must now take the leadership role that Sweet, Mehl and Marcus left behind. Sometimes guys need to just realize (even though no one on the team may tell them upfront) that they need to show leadership via their actions (in this sense, playing/ pitching your butt off in order to spark your team/brothers into playing great baseball). In saying that, I hope he stays with the club, because, as of now the Leos will need him if they are to defend their SCIAC crown.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: nvnorthpaw on February 12, 2009, 12:13:57 AM
Anyone else happen to catch the CalLu game this afternoon? Looks like the offense definitely isn't going to be a problem! 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ullcme41 on February 12, 2009, 01:48:03 AM
easy there nvnorthpaw im a fan of clu and i think there offense will be solid, but they played la sierra!! Not exactly a powerhouse over at lsu son.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 12, 2009, 11:24:20 AM
Quote from: Ullcme41 on February 12, 2009, 01:48:03 AM
easy there nvnorthpaw im a fan of clu and i think there offense will be solid, but they played la sierra!! Not exactly a powerhouse over at lsu son.

Agreed. La Sierra is a brutal NAIA program.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 12, 2009, 09:38:02 PM
Congrats to the Leo's on their big win as of yet against the ex-SCIAC co-champs( :P). From the looks of it, both clubs battled it out with the Leo's going for the 7 to 6 win this afternoon. Hope the Panthers can bounce back from their big losses and continue to reach towards the top
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: swede on February 13, 2009, 11:14:44 PM
Gorge Fox posts 7-6 win over d2 Hawaii-Hilo

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 15, 2009, 11:35:13 AM
Awesome job to Oxy in doing their best, keeping their composure, staying focus and battling it out for more W's.  I was able to catch several of innings of the Pios and Tigers (2nd) game and saw these boys just digg deep in and not give up. Yet, this time they Boys in Orange and Black where able to hang on and walk away with their 2nd straight win of the day.

Speaking of W's, congrats yet again to The Leo's in their amazing 7-2 win against the ex-SCIAC co-champs. Apparently, the Leo coaching staff and players took advantage of the struggling panthers and found tons of way to light up the cold So. Cal afternoon sky's. Lets just continue to hope that La Verne continues to get these big wins and defends their SCIAC crown. As for the Panthers, I think now is the time that they need to start getting it together. I know that as of last year they did indeed lose several game at the start of the season, but, as of now this is just to much losses.

Hats off to the other SCIAC school's that also had big wins yesterday.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just_Some_Guy on February 15, 2009, 12:19:26 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on February 15, 2009, 11:35:13 AM
As for the Panthers, I think now is the time that they need to start getting it together. I know that as of last year they did indeed lose several game at the start of the season, but, as of now this is just to much losses.


They only lost two games early last year and both were to very solid teams, The Redlands and McMurry respectively.

The Panthers have lost 4 games already this year. They lost 3 prior to the final 8 in Appleton all of last year. The truth is there's nobody on their roster that can lock it down like Yacko could. ANYTIME they were in a bind they knew Yacko could come in and chances are the game was over.

Losing Yacko = main issue

But, keep in mind they lost Ryan Clear who was 9-2 last year despite having a .318 average against. So not only are you replacing the best closer in the country, but a pretty solid #2 (or 3, can't recall if Sigman was 2 last year).

I'll be in interested to see if Luzar gets the opportunity to start. He's been solid in the past, when healthy.

Finally, we have to also realize that they lost huge offensive weapons in Mike Vass, Yacko, Hyman and Hall. All of those guys were hitting over .350.

Big props to Jon Semel who has started out on fire this year thus far for the Panthers.

Since I've been following DIII baseball the SCIAC has been the weakest conference in the West Region. I know many of you SCIAC fans don't agree, but it's virtually indisputable in my mind. That said, could the power be shifting this year? Is this the year that La Verne, Cal Lu, The Redlands, Pomona (and Oxy!?) are collectively better than the George Fox, Linfield, and Pac Lu's of the world? Better than the UT Tyler, Concordia, McMurry, Ozarks of the ASC?

We'll see. Should be an interesting year. Looking forward to the next few weeks when we can start getting a more clear picture of who the potential players will be.

JSG
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 15, 2009, 02:56:19 PM
Speaking of Pac Lu, The Leo's and Lutes have a late V-day meeting this morning as both Clubs duke it out on the sandlot. I know that at the start of the season the Lutes came down and took on a good Pup team of UoR and split that series. Hope the Leo's can claw their ways out to another win.

By the way, can some one help me understand this: Pac Lu's website mentions that the lutes do play the Leos this morning and then points that they will be playing the Hens later this afternoon. ??? Is this true or this just a Pac Lu glitch. Either way, the Lutes will have a tough day ahead of themselves.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 15, 2009, 06:28:51 PM
Congrats again to the Tigers in completing a sweep of the Pios. The last game between both teams ended in favor of the Tigers, as the offense came alive throughout the 3rd innings and beyond (13-2). I Hope this new-found intensity can now be carried over as the Tigers prepare to take on Coach Hawkins old ball club.

Also, Congrats to the Leo's on their come from behind (11-10) win against the Lutes this morning. For the Leo's, such big wins against giants like Chapman and Pac Lu can only bring more wins for the Leo's.   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SCIACfan5 on February 16, 2009, 01:06:03 AM
Congrats indeed to the Leo's. That's a great come from behing victory against a tough Pacific Lutheran team.

Also, Pac Lu did  play PP today. PP got the win 19-2.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on February 16, 2009, 01:23:39 AM
saw the hens play this weekend (family weekend at pomona). the offense looked a little shaky yesterday as they took 2 of 3 yesterday against pacific u, getting shutout the first game and getting only two hits in the final game (a 3-0 win). not surprisingly, drew hedman was a an exception as he went 6-11 with a HR on the day. the pitching, however, looked great- especially the new face in the rotation James brunswick.

Today saw the Hens' bats explode against a good Pac Lu team as they pounded out 9 runs in the first and 8 in the second before the starters were taken out. I believe every hen starter scored a run... No doubt Pac Lu was a little tired after their extra inning duel with la verne- and they certainly didn't play to the best of their abilities- but PP also played a triple dip yesterday, making today's performance even more impressive.

Sounds like the SCIAC is doing quite well against in-region opponents with whittier and la verne taking two from chapman and pac lu and pacific getting trounced in their trips to down to so cal- not to mention a la verne win against george fox. very excited for the la verne- cal lu series this weekend and the opening of sciac play in general.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SCIACfan5 on February 16, 2009, 01:37:26 AM
Quote from: P-P Fan on February 16, 2009, 01:23:39 AM
saw the hens play this weekend (family weekend at pomona). the offense looked a little shaky yesterday as they took 2 of 3 yesterday against pacific u, getting shutout the first game and getting only two hits in the final game (a 3-0 win). not surprisingly, drew hedman was a an exception as he went 6-11 with a HR on the day. the pitching, however, looked great- especially the new face in the rotation James brunswick.

Today saw the Hens' bats explode against a good Pac Lu team as they pounded out 9 runs in the first and 8 in the second before the starters were taken out. I believe every hen starter scored a run... No doubt Pac Lu was a little tired after their extra inning duel with la verne- and they certainly didn't play to the best of their abilities- but PP also played a triple dip yesterday, making today's performance even more impressive.

Sounds like the SCIAC is doing quite well against in-region opponents with whittier and la verne taking two from chapman and pac lu and pacific getting trounced in their trips to down to so cal- not to mention a la verne win against george fox. very excited for the la verne- cal lu series this weekend and the opening of sciac play in general.

I don't believe George Fox and La Verne play each other this season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on February 16, 2009, 02:20:09 AM
QuoteI don't believe George Fox and La Verne play each other this season.
My apologies, my quick scan at the sciac baseball page showed the la verne- george fox regional game and i mistook it as something from this season. Either way, i think my point still stands that the SCIAC has been impressive against west region teams. Even the perenially weak Whittier Poets played some very close games in a trip to texas- on top of the afore-mentioned victories against chapman.
I realize that it's quite early, but could this be the year that SCIAC finally gets two representatives in the west regionals?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 16, 2009, 01:20:42 PM
Looks to me like the SCIAC is better all around this year, but some teams have played some weak teams.  Oxy's 8-1 start is fine, but they have played 2 terrible schools and 1 below average school.  I think they will be knocked back into reality this weekend when they play Redlands.  Cal Lu is kind of in the same boat.  They won a couple of 1 run games against 2 average teams and the4n blasted a terrible team.  They have La Verne this weekend.  What a great way to start the SCIAC schedule.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ECSUalum on February 16, 2009, 02:39:59 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 16, 2009, 01:20:42 PM
Looks to me like the SCIAC is better all around this year, but some teams have played some weak teams.  Oxy's 8-1 start is fine, but they have played 2 terrible schools and 1 below average school.  I think they will be knocked back into reality this weekend when they play Redlands.  Cal Lu is kind of in the same boat.  They won a couple of 1 run games against 2 average teams and the4n blasted a terrible team.  They have La Verne this weekend.  What a great way to start the SCIAC schedule.

If the SCIAC could find a reasonable replacement for Cal Tech they could be a lot more respectable.

Might as well give every other SCIAC team 2 wins right off the bat.  A bit of an advantage over other western conferences

As I posted this time last year, Cal Tech should look for another conference or play club baseball
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ECSUalum on February 16, 2009, 02:44:47 PM
Make that 3 wins based on looking at the SCIAC schedules
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on February 16, 2009, 03:52:11 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on February 16, 2009, 02:39:59 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 16, 2009, 01:20:42 PM
Looks to me like the SCIAC is better all around this year, but some teams have played some weak teams.  Oxy's 8-1 start is fine, but they have played 2 terrible schools and 1 below average school.  I think they will be knocked back into reality this weekend when they play Redlands.  Cal Lu is kind of in the same boat.  They won a couple of 1 run games against 2 average teams and the4n blasted a terrible team.  They have La Verne this weekend.  What a great way to start the SCIAC schedule.

If the SCIAC could find a reasonable replacement for Cal Tech they could be a lot more respectable.

Might as well give every other SCIAC team 2 wins right off the bat.  A bit of an advantage over other western conferences

As I posted this time last year, Cal Tech should look for another conference or play club baseball

Good point, but I think everyone automatically takes those three wins off SCIAC overall records. As for JP's comment about oxy and cal lu, im inclined to agree. oxy lost a LOT from an already poor team... last place in non-cal tech sciac. i would be surprised to see them take a game from redlands.
im very interested to see how cal lu does. the pitchers they brought in seem like they might be legitimate arms, but we won't know until they start playing some real  teams. hence my excitement for the la verne cal lu series this weekend.

finally, disappointed to learn that the sagecocks don't play at all this weekend... finally started getting the bats going and now they have two weeks to let them cool off again.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on February 16, 2009, 09:17:15 PM
CalTech usually lacks pitching.  This year they list five guys who can pitch.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ECSUalum on February 16, 2009, 10:23:26 PM
"Good point, but I think everyone automatically takes those three wins off SCIAC overall records."

???  Is this true?  :o
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 16, 2009, 10:29:32 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on February 16, 2009, 10:23:26 PM
"Good point, but I think everyone automatically takes those three wins off SCIAC overall records."

???  Is this true?  :o

I don't think this is said how it is meant.  I believe that SCIAC schools always count those games just like they would any other game.  The problem with Cal Tech is the same as it is in every sport.  It is nearly impossible to get kids that are not only the smartest in the world, but great athletes too.  Every year there is one, maybe two guys that can play a little and a bunch of guys who never even played in high school.  I give their kids a lot of credit for getting back up after getting whipped up on every weekend.  It is too bad that another school (and no, I do not mean Chapman) couldn't join the SCIAC and replace Cal Tech but for now they just have to make due with what is in place. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ECSUalum on February 16, 2009, 10:47:30 PM
Jack,

Thanks,  We will leave it at that.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 16, 2009, 11:11:58 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 16, 2009, 01:20:42 PM
Looks to me like the SCIAC is better all around this year, but some teams have played some weak teams.  Oxy's 8-1 start is fine, but they have played 2 terrible schools and 1 below average school.  I think they will be knocked back into reality this weekend when they play Redlands.  Cal Lu is kind of in the same boat.  They won a couple of 1 run games against 2 average teams and the4n blasted a terrible team.  They have La Verne this weekend.  What a great way to start the SCIAC schedule.

Lol. I knew one of these days a comment like this would lurk in here. And for that I must quickly add support to my Tigers. As I once posted (see prior post) as meaningless as these wins may seem to a lot of you guys, Wins only builds up a young ball players 1) psychie (sp??), 2) confidence and 3) their skills. Yes I said it. These Tigers seem to be picking up on Coach Hawk's ideas/ coaching and are striving to prove themselves in being a top contender in SCIAC baseball. With the help of Coach H and Co's strategies, I can assure you that these guys are buying into a system of how busting your butt in practice, flying all out during practice and actually learning from a vet SCIAC coach on what it takes to win against good ball clubs, I am sure these guys are doing anything possible to erase their past and start a new chapter of Oxy baseball.
In saying that, I am sure coach H, will be using all his knowledge about Pup baseball this week in order to help his young men find ways to exploit and of course take more than one game away from the Pups (yes, oxy did take one game away from the Pups last year and was very close in taking another one before eventually collapsing). It should be a great week to be a tiger baseball player.

And yes, IMHO, the game of the Week should definately be the Leo v.s. Who series. I honest believe that with this new found confidence and energy both teams will be duking it out until the very end. However, the Leo's will be more likely to prevail in this series.

wow, the hens have two weeks off. This indeed will cool them off a lot and probably will not recover until mid spring break. What a bad schedule blunder.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 17, 2009, 12:00:14 AM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on February 16, 2009, 11:11:58 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 16, 2009, 01:20:42 PM
Looks to me like the SCIAC is better all around this year, but some teams have played some weak teams.  Oxy's 8-1 start is fine, but they have played 2 terrible schools and 1 below average school.  I think they will be knocked back into reality this weekend when they play Redlands.  Cal Lu is kind of in the same boat.  They won a couple of 1 run games against 2 average teams and the4n blasted a terrible team.  They have La Verne this weekend.  What a great way to start the SCIAC schedule.

Lol. I knew one of these days a comment like this would lurk in here. And for that I must quickly add support to my Tigers. As I once posted (see prior post) as meaningless as these wins may seem to a lot of you guys, Wins only builds up a young ball players 1) psychie (sp??), 2) confidence and 3) their skills. Yes I said it. These Tigers seem to be picking up on Coach Hawk's ideas/ coaching and are striving to prove themselves in being a top contender in SCIAC baseball. With the help of Coach H and Co's strategies, I can assure you that these guys are buying into a system of how busting your butt in practice, flying all out during practice and actually learning from a vet SCIAC coach on what it takes to win against good ball clubs, I am sure these guys are doing anything possible to erase their past and start a new chapter of Oxy baseball.
In saying that, I am sure coach H, will be using all his knowledge about Pup baseball this week in order to help his young men find ways to exploit and of course take more than one game away from the Pups (yes, oxy did take one game away from the Pups last year and was very close in taking another one before eventually collapsing). It should be a great week to be a tiger baseball player.

And yes, IMHO, the game of the Week should definately be the Leo v.s. Who series. I honest believe that with this new found confidence and energy both teams will be duking it out until the very end. However, the Leo's will be more likely to prevail in this series.

wow, the hens have two weeks off. This indeed will cool them off a lot and probably will not recover until mid spring break. What a bad schedule blunder.

Not trying to ruffle any feathers here, but Oxy is going to struggle.  They have struggled for a long time and I don't see them getting any better.  BE-  I know you are a big Oxy supporter and thats great, but I just don't see the Tigers doing anything this year.  The 3 schools they have played have 1 win between them. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 17, 2009, 12:10:05 AM
No worries JP. I'll be sure to send you some hater-ade ( :P, all kidding) at the end of the season as we toast to a good Oxy season. The Tigers take two big ones (poss. all 3) from the Pups this weekend. I'll be at the early Saturday for sure and maybe even the later afternoon game as well. Go Tigers.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on February 17, 2009, 05:42:21 PM
browneagle, i hope your right- it would be great to see a competitive oxy baseball team this year. Unfortunately i'm gonna side with jp's skepticism. what youre saying would be an incredible turnaround, especially with all the key loses from last year's team (Anderson, Miyahira, Goss, falck, etc). also, is glenn gray hurt? he hasn't been showing up in box scores... which is even more troubling to that program.
obviously i could be wrong, but lets see how they fare this weekend and the rest of the year against good baseball teams. best of luck to them (except against the hens of course!)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on February 18, 2009, 12:55:30 PM
Article about Redlands from the Redlands Daily Facts (http://www.redlandsdailyfacts.com/sports/ci_11712644):

QuoteBulldog baseball looks to build on 2008 success

One day was all it took for the University of Redlands baseball team to have its improbable dream of a conference championship ripped away.

After reeling off 11 straight conference wins to overtake Pomona-Pitzer and La Verne in the conference standings, the Bulldogs dropped both games of a doubleheader to Claremont College on the final day of the regular season. Not only did that mean Redlands missed a chance to capture its second Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference crown in three seasons, but it also meant the Bulldogs missed the postseason.

"Claremont has always bit us," said senior outfielder and first baseman Matthew Goldstein. "We need to take care of them this year."

Goldstein's comment was not so much a reflection of a grudge against Claremont (although there is no love lost between the schools) as a reflection of the bigger picture for Redlands baseball in 2009.

To win the SCIAC and avoid the disappointment of last season, the team has outlined a specific set of goals.

"We need to sweep the teams that we are better than and try to take two out of three from the other top teams in the league," said infielder Evan Dunn. "That will put us in great shape."

How does Redlands plan on following through? Hard work during the offseason.

"It's been awesome," head coach Scott Laverty said of his team's offseason workouts and preseason practices. "We're as strong as we've ever been."

A big reason for Redlands' motivation and work ethic heading into the 2009 campaign is the experience of 11 seniors who have never won less than 26 games during their three years in the program.

"The seniors have set a great example of working hard," Laverty said. "It's a blessing to have all those guys with experience."

It also helps that within that experience lies potent talent. The Bulldogs return a large core of last season's team, with six of the nine starters back in the lineup. Among those are two first team All-SCIAC selections - senior left fielder Kyle Rizzo and junior catcher Jefre Johnson. Rizzo batted .411 with 53 hits and 34 RBI's last year, while Johnson contributed 51 hits and 34 RBI's while providing solid defensive play and leadership behind the plate. Redlands returns its two other starting outfielders, Cory Vane and Goldstein, who combined for 101 hits and 61 RBI's a year ago.
...

That offensive firepower was on display Feb. 4 against California Baptist University, an NAIA power that qualified for the NAIA regional tournament in 2008. The Bulldogs peppered the solid Cal Baptist pitching staff for 16 hits en route to eight runs.
...

But if Redlands is to win a SCIAC title this year, the issue will not be on offense, but rather on the mound. As good as the Bulldog offense was versus Cal Baptist, the Redlands pitchers surrendered nine runs as the Bulldogs lost a battle of who got to hit last.
...

Redlands does return ace Nolan Nicholson, who was solid all year en route to a first team All-SCIAC selection after posting a school record 12 wins and a 3.93 ERA. Also returning is starter Michael Lessig, who went 3-1 after assuming a starting role halfway through last season.

Otherwise, there is little experience among the pitchers. Closer Ryan Seifert graduated and first team All-SCIAC starting pitcher Mike McCarty opted to transfer, leaving a large void within the Bulldog staff.
...

There is plenty of talent, as Laverty said. Redlands hopes sophomore Derek Johnson can continue to build on last season's success. Johnson finished the year with a 3.45 ERA and looked sharp during the last month of the season. Senior Kevin Bissell, who has seen innings as the Bulldog closer over the years, will also be counted on. Freshman Mike Masari and Brock Jacobo are two young players who will have an opportunity to earn innings.
...

Despite the question marks on the pitching staff, Laverty has a talented, veteran lineup and remains confident about his team's chances for an elusive SCIAC championship.

"We will pitch better than we did against (Cal Baptist). We've got the talent and now we have to go out and perform," he said.

After a brief pause, he added, "We believe we should win the conference."

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 18, 2009, 03:50:33 PM
Ahhh, Finally a newspaper added some insight to into a local D3 baseball team. However, J.P. had done this exact same thing not so long ago and pointed out the exact same thing. Even more, I could have told you myself (as i did on a post not to long ago) that yes the Pups would be returning a lot of starters, some offense of power but no pitching at all. As predicted as well, I do expect the Pups to ride high again this year but will be smacked back to reality once their pitching staff starts to cool down/ give up costly numbers. Best of luck to them as they take on my Tigers.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 19, 2009, 01:17:51 AM
Quick update on two local SCIAC teams:
Both Whitter and the Stags lost their games against Masters College and A.P.U.

C.M.S. definately got blasted on by Masters, But, I was more surprised/impressed by Whitter's close game against (an always solid) APU 's baseball team. Geeze, first they beat the Panthers and now they are taking on the Big boys like the Cougars of A.P.U. Looks like our surprise team pick during pre-season talk should have gone to the Poets. Oh wait, I think several of us picked them to be the surprise team. Lol.
Can't wait to hear about the 1st Leo v.s Who result and definately my Tigers v.s. Pups score.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 19, 2009, 09:34:37 PM
Ding ding ding.........lets get ready to rummmmmbbbbblllllllleeeeeeeeee.

SCIAC season starts off tomorrow and all the teams are in action minus Whittier.

Cal Lu vs. La Verne
CMS vs. Cal Tech
Oxy vs. Redlands

What are the predictions from everyone? Here are mine...

Redlands 3-0 (sorry BrownEagle)
CMS 3-0 (obviously)
Cal Lu 2-1

Let me know what you guys think.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 20, 2009, 01:50:19 AM
I like your style J.P., However, my Tigers take Two away from the Pups.

La Verne takes two away as well.
CMS finally gets some W's after getting destroyed by football like scores of 20 and 21+ (No bueno) to something

And yes Both Whitter and the Hens actually have some time off. To bad for them. It should be a fun afternoon tomorrow. I hope to drop by the Rock tomorrow after work, but, may not make it at all. Absolutely will be there with a bowl of Coca Crisp early saturday morning for the Tiger v.s. Pup game.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: oldcat on February 20, 2009, 02:46:53 AM
I'll agree with you there Jack.

The SCIAC-Co champs record so far against the SCIAC is a horrible 1-4.
They take on two NAIA teams in the next two games Westmont and Azusa Pacific are next on their list. Hopefully they can get two w's against these teams; even though they don't count as in region games, but affect the overall record. 

Good luck to all SCIAC teams this weekend!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 20, 2009, 04:00:20 PM
Yes, I got bored during work today and decided to post this....

Here's an outlook/ preview on former Cal Lu starter Jason Hirsh, who will likely make the Rockies Roster this year. I am sure he will have an up-hill battle to win that spot, but, ultimately will take it based on his knowledge and experince on the mound (whether its from His Coast league or SCIAC performances, he'll do fine)

from ESPN
Player News (last updated: February 16, 2009)
News: Hirsh will compete with Franklin Morales, Greg Smith, Greg Reynolds, Glendon Rusch, and Josh Fogg for the final spot in the rotation while Jeff Francis nurses a shoulder injury, the Rockies' Team Site reports.
Spin: Hirsh struggled mightily in his 2008 rehab stint in the minors last season, and has been battling injury since his acquisition from the Astros in 2006. He feels healthy entering the 2009 season, but he has a long way to go before proving to the Rockies that he is ready for a starting role with the team.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 20, 2009, 11:26:11 PM
After sending in Senior Ace Nolan Nicholson, the Pups of UoR used their bats this afternoon in order to take game one away from my Tigers. Congrats to the Pup on this one, but, good luck to them mana.

From UoR athletic website:
The No. 19 University of Redlands baseball team used an outsatnding outing by senior pitcher/first baseman Nolan Nicholson (Fullerton, CA) on the mound as the Bulldogs steamrolled Occidental College, 9-1, in the first of a three-game weekend series Friday.

Nicholson (2-0) allowed just six hits and one earned run and fanned seven batters in 8.1 innings of work. Freshman pitcher Brock Jacobo (Yuma, AZ) got the ball for the final two outs of the game and kept the Tigers in check.

Patrolling the right side of the outfield, senior outfielder Corey Vane (Simi Valley, CA) had a spectacular day both offensively and defensively. Vane went 2-for-5 on the afternoon while scoring a run and batting one in. The game's final out came as a result of Vane's cannon as he launched a fielded ball from right field to throw out the runner from second at home.

In addition, sophomore first baseman Manny Cardeiro (San Diego, CA) posted a solid 2-for-3 showing as the designated hitter with a walk, a stolen base, a run and an RBI.

Speed enabled the Bulldogs score nine runs on just 10 hits. Junior catcher Jefre Johnson (Canby, OR) and junior shortstop Zack Braband (Alameda, CA) each legged out triples while graduate student second baseman Tom Ledda (Daly City, CA) and Vane notched a double apiece.

Redlands (2-2, 1-0 SCIAC) faces Occidental in a Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference (SCIAC) doubleheader tomorrow in Eagle Rock at 11 a.m. Fans unable to attend the game tomorrow can follow the Bulldogs online via radio broadcast at www.oxybroadcast.com.
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Post by: Browneagle64 on February 20, 2009, 11:30:40 PM
Speaking of, Word from Thousand Oaks is that The Who took the Leos down to the Wire (through 11 innings) and walked with a tough 8 to 7 win. Congrats to the Who. This series is sure to be billed as the best one of the weekend.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 20, 2009, 11:34:07 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on February 20, 2009, 11:30:40 PM
Speaking of, Word from Thousand Oaks is that The Who took the Leos down to the Wire (through 11 innings) and walked with a tough 8 to 7 win. Congrats to the Who. This series is sure to be billed as the best one of the weekend.

Word is also that Cal Lu had this one in the bag with nobody on and 2 out in the 9th.  La Verne put some hits together and tied it up.  Should be a great double-header tomorrow!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: beachlover on February 21, 2009, 08:40:57 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on February 20, 2009, 01:50:19 AM
I like your style J.P., However, my Tigers take Two away from the Pups.

La Verne takes two away as well.
CMS finally gets some W's after getting destroyed by football like scores of 20 and 21+ (No bueno) to something

And yes Both Whitter and the Hens actually have some time off. To bad for them. It should be a fun afternoon tomorrow. I hope to drop by the Rock tomorrow after work, but, may not make it at all. Absolutely will be there with a bowl of Coca Crisp early saturday morning for the Tiger v.s. Pup game.

Sorry Brown, but I believe that the Pups swept the Tigers.  But, as I learned last year, one weekend does not a season make.  It may,  and probably will, come down to the last one.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 21, 2009, 09:21:06 PM
I know beach. I was at the earlier gaming hoping that my Tigers could take that game away (score ended as 8 to 5). I Absolutely have to man up and of course congrat the Pups in their wins. Great job UoR. And yes, being that the SCIAC crown has been determined during the last week's of the season, this is far from over. Geeze, we have the defending Champs (the Leo's), the Pups, the Hens, The Who and lets not forget the surprise team of the year, the Poets in trying to claim the SCIAC crown. It should be fun.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 21, 2009, 09:25:44 PM
Cal Lu starts the SCIAC season off with a sweep of La Verne.  All of the games were close with a 1 game on Friday, 4 run win in game one today and a 2 run win in game 3.  What a great way for Cal Lu to start out the conference schedule and a tough way for La Verne to start.   It looks like we had 3 sweeps this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 21, 2009, 09:36:03 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 21, 2009, 09:25:44 PM
Cal Lu starts the SCIAC season off with a sweep of La Verne.  All of the games were close with a 1 game on Friday, 4 run win in game one today and a 2 run win in game 3.  What a great way for Cal Lu to start out the conference schedule and a tough way for La Verne to start.   It looks like we had 3 sweeps this weekend.


I jumped the gun a little.  According to the Scoreboard page on here, game 3 of the Cal Lu/La Verne series was suspended in the 8th.  I am assuming Cal Lu will have to go down and finish the game before the year is over.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 24, 2009, 02:19:34 PM
SCIAC teams in the new top 25 today...

#21- Cal Lutheran (8-0)- This week vs Claremont (3-3)
#41- La Verne (3-5)- Today vs. Biola (NAIA).  No other games.
#50- Redlands (4-2)- This weekend at CSU East Bay.  These are very big in-region games.
#56- Pomona-Pitzer (4-2)- This weekend vs. Oxy
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just_Some_Guy on February 24, 2009, 09:53:43 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 24, 2009, 02:19:34 PM
SCIAC teams in the new top 25 today...

#21- Cal Lutheran (8-0)- This week vs Claremont (3-3)
#41- La Verne (3-5)- Today vs. Biola (NAIA).  No other games.
#50- Redlands (4-2)- This weekend at CSU East Bay.  These are very big in-region games.
#56- Pomona-Pitzer (4-2)- This weekend vs. Oxy

I'm glad the SCIAC is becoming a more competitive league. I think that makes the entire West region a lot more interesting, particularly since Chapman might not be the same powerhouse it has been the last four years.

Funny that in my initial west region rankings (http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=5123.msg1037251#msg1037251) I had Cal Lutheran, Pomona, Redlands, La Verne (in that order). I honestly think that when it's all said and done Redlands will be the weakest of the four, but I think Pomona might be a better team than La Verne depending on how Mandleblatt pitches this year.

JSG
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseballroxmysox on February 25, 2009, 08:38:40 PM
Here's the current standings in the SCIAC:

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2008-09/standings

          Conference                                                    Overall
                              GP Record Win % PF PA              GP Record Win % PF PA Last 10
Cal Lutheran              3  3-0 1.000 23 16                      8  8-0 1.000 105 37 8-0 
Redlands                   3  3-0 1.000 27 7                        6  4-2 0.667 4 4  23  4-2 
Clmt-Mudd-Scripps     3  3-0 1.000 44 4                         7  4-3 0.571 90  51 4-3 
Pomona-Pitzer           0  0-0 0.000 0 0                           6   4-2 0.667 42 18 4-2 
Whittier                    0  0-0 0.000 0 0                           8  2-6 0.250 44 64 2-6 
Occidental                3  0-3 0.000 7 27                         12  8-4 0.667 110 77 6-4 
La Verne                  3  0-3 0.000 16 23                         9  3-6 0.333 47 57 3-5 
Caltech                    3  0-3 0.000 4 44                          6  0-6 0.000 11 88 0-6 

For Games Through: Feb 25, 2009 8:27:12 PM
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 25, 2009, 09:18:01 PM
Quote from: baseballroxmysox on February 25, 2009, 08:38:40 PM
Here's the current standings in the SCIAC:

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2008-09/standings

          Conference                                                    Overall
                              GP Record Win % PF PA              GP Record Win % PF PA Last 10
Cal Lutheran              3  3-0 1.000 23 16                      8  8-0 1.000 105 37 8-0 
Redlands                   3  3-0 1.000 27 7                        6  4-2 0.667 4 4  23  4-2 
Clmt-Mudd-Scripps     3  3-0 1.000 44 4                         7  4-3 0.571 90  51 4-3 
Pomona-Pitzer           0  0-0 0.000 0 0                           6   4-2 0.667 42 18 4-2 
Whittier                    0  0-0 0.000 0 0                           8  2-6 0.250 44 64 2-6 
Occidental                3  0-3 0.000 7 27                         12  8-4 0.667 110 77 6-4 
La Verne                  3  0-3 0.000 16 23                         9  3-6 0.333 47 57 3-5 
Caltech                    3  0-3 0.000 4 44                          6  0-6 0.000 11 88 0-6 

For Games Through: Feb 25, 2009 8:27:12 PM

Here a few of my thoughts on the current standings...

1) Redlands better hope their pitching can hold up the entire year.  They have a good offense but need some pitchers to step up so they dont burn anyone out.

2) LaVerne is still a very good team.  They might have been swept by Cal Lu but they would not go quietly.  Cal Lu had the lead in all 3 games and La Verne made things interesting.

3) Oxy is not very good at all.  The 8 wins they have were against weak teams.  Oxy could only muster 4 hits in one of their wins against La Sierra and they were losing after 5 in that same game.  La Sierra took Oxy to the 11th in game one of a double-header.  New coach, same results.

4) Claremont is going to have a rough year.  CMS has 3 wins against Cal Tech and 1 against La Sierra.

5) No idea about Pomona yet.  I will chime in on them after they play some more.

6) Whittier is losing some close games...but still losing.  This could be a team that really hurts some of the top teams in the SCIAC, just ask Chapman.

7) Cal Lu is off to a hot start.  Can they continue?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 26, 2009, 08:14:49 PM
It's time for another SCIAC weekend.  Here is this weekends schedule.

2/27-3/1
Redlands at CSU East Bay-  Redlands takes 2 of 3.  East Bay is really in trouble this year unless they go on a very long winning streak.  SO far East Bay is 4-5 vs. D-III West region teams.  They still have Chapman, Cal Lu, George Fox, Linfield, and a few others on their schedule.  They are in real trouble for the post-season.  Enjoy D-II.

Cal Lu vs. Claremont (1 at CMS, 2 at CLU)
Cal Lu is on a roll to start off the season.  Dating back to last year, they have a 17 game winning streak.  The streak should reach 20 after this weekend.  C-M-S has struggled so far, only beating Cal Tech and La Sierra.  Cal Lu better not be looking ahead to Chapman or they could get stung.

Cal Tech vs. Whittier (1 at Whitter, 2 at Cal Tech)
Whittier gets 3 wins.  Enough said.

Pomona-Pitzer vs. Oxy (1 at Oxy, 2 at P-P)
Pomona has been quiet simply because they have only played a few games.  After they knock off the rust, Pomona should dominate Oxy in this series.  Until Oxy proves me wrong, they will get beat up pretty bad in the SCIAC this year.

More SCIAC news...  http://www.clusports.com/baseball/news/5342/

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 26, 2009, 08:39:13 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 26, 2009, 08:14:49 PM
It's time for another SCIAC weekend.  Here is this weekends schedule.

2/27-3/1
Redlands at CSU East Bay-  Redlands takes 2 of 3.  East Bay is really in trouble this year unless they go on a very long winning streak.  SO far East Bay is 4-5 vs. D-III West region teams.  They still have Chapman, Cal Lu, George Fox, Linfield, and a few others on their schedule.  They are in real trouble for the post-season.  Enjoy D-II.

Cal Lu vs. Claremont (1 at CMS, 2 at CLU)
Cal Lu is on a roll to start off the season.  Dating back to last year, they have a 17 game winning streak.  The streak should reach 20 after this weekend.  C-M-S has struggled so far, only beating Cal Tech and La Sierra.  Cal Lu better not be looking ahead to Chapman or they could get stung.

Cal Tech vs. Whittier (1 at Whitter, 2 at Cal Tech)
Whittier gets 3 wins.  Enough said.

Pomona-Pitzer vs. Oxy (1 at Oxy, 2 at P-P)
Pomona has been quiet simply because they have only played a few games.  After they knock off the rust, Pomona should dominate Oxy in this series.  Until Oxy proves me wrong, they will get beat up pretty bad in the SCIAC this year.

More SCIAC news...  http://www.clusports.com/baseball/news/5342/

Lol, why so much hate on my Tigers


LOL, why so much hate on my Tigers. We take on a #19 UoPup team,lose to them and then the SCIAC season is over for these Boys. Give me a break. Of course, we all have our opinions, (which is fine) However, I can assure you Oxy will bounce back. Even if it means that we jump on a very cold Hen team who has not played some bball for a while.
In saying that, you know I'll take Oxy over your choice of the Hens.

Speaking of, All of a sudden Cal Lu wins their first three against a Leo team who had played SDCC, the ex-sciac champ, and Pac Lu and now crowned the Champs??? Double Lol.  For the last several years the SCIAC crown has been determined towards the very end. Expect for this to occur yet again gentlemen (and ladies if your reading this as well). I like all the Hoopla over the Who, but can they really hang in there when other foreign (o.k. so they are foreign but what ever) teams take them on during Spring break (refer to C.A. Classic). Lets see how they do.

Look for the Leo's to get back to their winning ways, the Poets to finally complete their wins and yes, the stags to struggle again.   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 26, 2009, 09:32:45 PM
Not "hating on" your Tigers, just don't think they will do much this year.  I wouldn't say the season is over, but there is a long road ahead of them.

Only a few people on here have hinted on crowning Cal Lu as the champs.  There is a ton of baseball left to be played.  The one positive thing for CLU is they are done with La Verne, the bad is they still have Pomona and Redlands.  Those are going to be very tough games.  The one thing that is good for the SCIAC is the fact that they might be able to get 2 teams into a regional this year.  With the travel costs, I don't think it would be too crazy to see 2 SCIAC teams in Oregon come regional time.  Of course, the 2nd place team still has to have a good season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CMStag on February 27, 2009, 01:30:17 AM
Hi all, I've been reading these boards for a while, and I think the Stags need a little representation here.

So far this year the Stags have lost 3 games to very talented teams, but let's not write them off as SCIAC bottom feeders so quickly. Minus WebberShapiro (which I admit is a big loss), the Stags return a very potent offense from last year, and I'm sure big numbers are in store for Blomberg and Co. again this year. In addition, CMS hopes to replace some of the void left by WebberShapiro with Jr. transfer, 3b Steve Dannaway who has looked good thus far.

This brings us to the pitching staff. All I can say at this point is they are very young. No one has really gotten enough innings to tell too much. This Cal Lu series will be a big test for them.

Can't wait to see what all this talk about the Who is for. It should be a fun weekend of baseball. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 27, 2009, 11:01:51 PM
Congrats to the Hens on their first commanding win against my Tigers. Either the cold weather around here has affect my Tigers or the Hens really do like to have long bye-weeks, but, my Tigers need to bounce back. Lets go Tigers.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseballroxmysox on February 27, 2009, 11:04:01 PM
HELLO SCIAC Fans - here's a recap of todays games:

Cal Lu over Claremont-Mudd Scripps    6-2    
box score or highlights not posted yet

Pomon-Pitzer over Occidental      18-4
box score or highlights not posted yet

Whittier over Caltech     15-2 (7 innings)
http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/stats/wcbb09.htm

Redlands and Cal State East Bay - nothing up yet.





Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 27, 2009, 11:28:37 PM
Is it really that hard to put up a box score?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: nvnorthpaw on February 28, 2009, 01:10:11 PM
Does anybody have details on the who game yesterday? 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CMSfan on February 28, 2009, 01:38:23 PM
I saw the last few innings of the CMS vs. CLU game yesterday, so I'll try to recap.  I don't know as much about the CLU team, so my comments will probably be Stag-centric.

CMS vs. CLU Game 1
Another beautiful day at Arce Field.  Great place to watch a game.

CMS started a freshman, Jeff Postetter.  CLU countered with a lefty, but I didn't catch the name.

CLU strung a few hits together to take an early 2-0 lead.  They extended the lead to 6-0 in the 5th or 6th inning, when Postetter seemed to tire and started getting the ball up in the zone.

The CMS offense threatened throughout the game, but was something like 1 for 11 with runners in scoring position.  The CLU starter looked solid.  He wasn't throwing 90, but he had a nice changeup and induced a few key double play balls to kill some potential rallies.

CMS rallied again in the bottom of the 9th.  Trailing 6-2, they loaded the bases.  A routine grounder to short looked like the end of the game, but the shortstop's throw short-hopped the 1st baseman and two runners crossed the plate.  But, the runner on 2nd was called for interference for distracting the shortstop (at least I think that was the call).  That was the 3rd out and the end of the ballgame.

Thoughts on the Game
Both teams played reasonably well.  Neither offense looked particularly formidable, but both put runners on base in almost every inning.

Both teams looked pretty good in the field, turning some smooth DP's and limiting their mistakes.  CMS is starting Ryan Kaup, a 6'4" sophomore at short and he looks solid.

I'm not sure if CLU's pitcher was their #1.  He wasn't overpowering, but he turned in a solid effort.  Postetter is not CMS's #1, but he did pretty well in his first SCIAC start.  The first three guys that threw for the Stags were freshman: Postetter, Spencer Mains, and David Ulrich (L).  They're listed at 6'4", 6'4", and 6'6", respectively, and all looked decent.  CMS has a ton of pitching this year, but I think it remains to be seen who will rise to the top of the rotation/bullpen.

CMS was without Travis Nishioka, one of their top hitters.

All in all, the gap between CMS and CLU looked small...but it was only one game.  Today's doubleheader will give a better idea where CMS stands in relation to CLU.

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Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 27, 2009, 11:28:37 PM
Is it really that hard to put up a box score?

Seriously!

Makes for me longs for the days of the the old Unofficial CMS Baseball Website: http://www.fishtime.net/StagBaseball/index.htm (http://www.fishtime.net/StagBaseball/index.htm)

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CMSfan on February 28, 2009, 05:24:33 PM
CMS and CLU headed to extra innings in Game 2, tied 3-3.

I'm loving CLU's online broadcast!  Well done, Cal Lu.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 28, 2009, 05:55:23 PM
The broadcast is great, but CLU looks terrible!!!  Errors and no clutch hitting at all. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: nvnorthpaw on February 28, 2009, 05:58:27 PM
Is there a link to the broadcast?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CMSfan on February 28, 2009, 06:06:44 PM
I think this will work...

http://140.174.69.227/SportsCLU.asp?cat_ID=6 (http://140.174.69.227/SportsCLU.asp?cat_ID=6)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CMSfan on February 28, 2009, 06:15:06 PM
Final Score: CMS 7, CLU 3 (11 innings)

CMS used aggressive baserunning, timely hitting, and a few friendly hops to put up 4 in the top of the 11th.  No box score yet.

Starting pitchers for both teams looked good.  Max Rose threw for CMS and, from the parts of the game I saw online, was never really hit hard.  CLU's radar gun had him at 87...that seems generous, but he was hitting spots and had good command of his off-speed stuff.  Sophomore Alex Sunderland threw three scoreless innings to close out the game and earn the win.  He also looked sharp and did a great job of staying ahead in the count.

The game last over 4 hours, so it will be tough to complete the rubber match before dark.  Could make for an interesting third game...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CMSfan on February 28, 2009, 06:39:09 PM
CMS at CLU Box Score: http://www.clusports.com/stats/baseball/2009/0228cms1.htm (http://www.clusports.com/stats/baseball/2009/0228cms1.htm)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: swede on February 28, 2009, 09:26:24 PM
Its was cold and showery up here in mactown but that did not keep PLU (2-0 conf)) from scoring 38 runs in todays games against Linfield (the NWC preseason favorite). I lost track of how many HR's the Lutes had.


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CMSfan on February 28, 2009, 09:33:47 PM
Final Score: CLU 3, CMS 2 (7 innings, darkness)

Always frustrating to have a close game called early due to darkness, but that's how it always is early in SCIAC play.  Here's the box score:

http://www.clusports.com/stats/baseball/2009/0228cms2.htm (http://www.clusports.com/stats/baseball/2009/0228cms2.htm)

It seems the biggest thing to take away from this series is that the CMS squad is going to be very competitive in SCIAC play.  From what I've seen posted over the last two weeks, the consensus seemed to be that the Stags would be a non-factor this year.  This series shows that is not the case.  CMS is young and talented and has a lot of pitching.  They may not compete for a league title, but I certainly wouldn't overlook them at this point in the season.

And, of course, credit goes to Cal Lu for taking 2 of 3.  That's what you have to do to stay on top in SCIAC and they battled their way to a couple tough wins.

It's shaping up to be a fun year...go Stags!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 28, 2009, 10:21:43 PM
Cal Lu is very lucky to get out of this weekend 2-1.  I don't really know if it was just a terrible weekend for them or if CMS really is that good, but CLU sure does not seem like the team that just swept La Verne.  Maybe they were looking ahead to Chapman, maybe not.  Whatever it is they better step it up cause they are going to face a good pitcher this Friday night.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on March 02, 2009, 02:21:18 AM
Hens looked good this weekend, albeit against a struggling Oxy bunch. Bats were quite impressive- not the least of which was Hedman. He went 7-11 overall including a cycle on friday, and three homeruns for the series. Oh and 8 rbi's. Here's his stat line this year:
QuoteAVG  GP-GS  AB   R   H  2B  3B  HR RBI TB  SLG% BB HBPSO GDP OB%
QuoteHedman, Drew........  .633   9-9     30  12  19   4   1   6  18   43 1.433   8   0   2   0  .711
He wasn't the only one with a hot bat. Kang had 4 doubles, Freshman James Campbell hit his first two homeruns (and added a double), sophomore Frederick had 2 doubles and 2 HR's, and Mandelblatt and Nino were awesome too. Four starters currently over .400.
Again I understand that Oxy isn't known for its pitching but 35 runs in three games right after putting up 19 on Pac Lu is pretty impressive.

Interesting to hear about the CMS-CAL LU series too... looking forward to seeing the Hens play both of those teams. and hopefully make up for what sounded like a pretty bad performance in the SCIAC men's basketball championship game last night.
Any word on redlands- east bay?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just_Some_Guy on March 02, 2009, 06:28:18 AM
Quote from: P-P Fan link=topic=4276.msg1043129#msg1043129
Any word on redlands- east bay?
/quote]

Redlands took 2 of 3 from East Bay.

JSG
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 02, 2009, 11:36:21 AM
JSG- Love your blog... keep it up.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CMSfan on March 02, 2009, 12:45:42 PM
Quote from: P-P Fan on March 02, 2009, 02:21:18 AMBats were quite impressive- not the least of which was Hedman.

Anybody know how many career HR Hedman has?  Seems like he could make a run at Cortez's record, no?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 02, 2009, 02:44:07 PM
Two big series coming up this weekend in the SCIAC...

Chapman and Cal Lu are playing a home and home series Friday and Saturday.  Judging by the box scores from Saturday, either CMS has good pitching or CLU was just really bad.  Tons of guys on base but never executed anything.  I think they bounce back and split with Chapman.

Redlands travels to La Verne on Friday and hosts them on Saturday for a double header.  This is a huge series for La Verne.  If ULV has any thoughts of getting back in the race, they can not afford to lose more than one of these games.  I think they do that and ULV takes 2 of 3.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: oldcat on March 02, 2009, 05:51:17 PM
Quote from: CMSfan on March 02, 2009, 12:45:42 PM
Quote from: P-P Fan on March 02, 2009, 02:21:18 AMBats were quite impressive- not the least of which was Hedman.

Anybody know how many career HR Hedman has?  Seems like he could make a run at Cortez's record, no?

According to ncaa.com Hedman has 40 career homeruns.

http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/careerplayer //

I don't know if that link worked. But if you want to look, go to ncaa.com, select baseball, select stats, go to D3, individual stats- homeruns, click on Hedman, that will take you to PP stats, then click on Hedman again.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DIIIBASEBALLFAN on March 02, 2009, 05:56:53 PM
2009
               AVG  GP-GS  AB   R    H    2B  3B  HR RBI  TB   SLG%   BB HBP  SO GDP   OB%
CHAPMAN .347   14-14  518 125 180  40   3  13 110  265  .512    48  21  48   4    .416 
Cal Lu      .332   11-11  407 117 135  40   7    9 103  216  .531    60  26  63   6    .438 

                 ERA   W-L   APP GS CG SHO/CBO SV   IP      H    R   ER  BB SO   2B  3B  HR  AB  B/Avg
CHAPMAN 4.82     10-4  14-14    2       0/0     3   125.0 126  78  67  54 112  24   3  14  481 .262   
Cal Lu      2.88     10-1  11-11    0       0/0     4   103.0 103  48  33  24  71  10   3   4   389 .265 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 02, 2009, 06:17:27 PM
Chapman has 30 more BBs issued than Cal Lu in only three more games. Amazing. Free passes appear to be killing the Panthers.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: RSSmith on March 02, 2009, 07:52:28 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 02, 2009, 06:17:27 PM
Chapman has 30 more BBs issued than Cal Lu in only three more games. Amazing. Free passes appear to be killing the Panthers.



And the Chapman pitching staff has given up 34 more earned runs in just 3 more games.  Should be telling series this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CMSfan on March 02, 2009, 08:32:23 PM
Quote from: oldcat on March 02, 2009, 05:51:17 PM
Quote from: CMSfan on March 02, 2009, 12:45:42 PM
Quote from: P-P Fan on March 02, 2009, 02:21:18 AMBats were quite impressive- not the least of which was Hedman.

Anybody know how many career HR Hedman has?  Seems like he could make a run at Cortez's record, no?

According to ncaa.com Hedman has 40 career homeruns.

http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/careerplayer //

I don't know if that link worked. But if you want to look, go to ncaa.com, select baseball, select stats, go to D3, individual stats- homeruns, click on Hedman, that will take you to PP stats, then click on Hedman again.


Thanks!  So, 30 HR to go.  Very doable if he stays healthy, especially given the home dimensions at Pomona.  Something to keep an eye on over the next couple years.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just_Some_Guy on March 02, 2009, 08:34:43 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 02, 2009, 11:36:21 AM
JSG- Love your blog... keep it up.



BigPoppa,

Truly flattered you enjoy the content I'm putting out there. I wish I had more time to write for it; it's very fun to sit down and hash-out all the baseball thoughts running through my head.

JSG
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 02, 2009, 10:15:28 PM
Quote from: Just_Some_Guy on March 02, 2009, 08:34:43 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 02, 2009, 11:36:21 AM
JSG- Love your blog... keep it up.



BigPoppa,

Truly flattered you enjoy the content I'm putting out there. I wish I had more time to write for it; it's very fun to sit down and hash-out all the baseball thoughts running through my head.

JSG

If I were smart enough to figure out how to create a blog, I might do it myself. for now, I will stick to my rants on facebook (or my tormenting of eight-graders with the economic policies of Alexander Hamilton).
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 02, 2009, 10:33:58 PM
Quote from: RSSmith on March 02, 2009, 07:52:28 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 02, 2009, 06:17:27 PM
Chapman has 30 more BBs issued than Cal Lu in only three more games. Amazing. Free passes appear to be killing the Panthers.



And the Chapman pitching staff has given up 34 more earned runs in just 3 more games.  Should be telling series this weekend.

Sets up a great weekend home-and-home series. I have trouble thinking Cal Lu will sweep this series. I guess we will find out if they are for real. (My hunch says Chapman takes BOTH games this weekend).
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 02, 2009, 11:57:41 PM
This is a great 2 game series (not sure why it's not 3) for both teams.  Chapman had a rough weekend, then had a great weekend in TX, and had a rough time with La Verne, but turned it around and dominated Menlo.  Which team will show up???
A sweep by either team could really hurt the other.  If Chapman sweeps, it will be a bad mark on CLU's overall record, but they could erase it by winning the SCIAC.
If Cal Lu sweeps, it will be a very bad mark on Chapman's schedule vs. D-III west teams.  Chapman has alreay lost 4 games to the SCIAC and really needs to add some wins against quality teams.

I am not too sure if the stats mean all that much right now.  They are good to look at, but thinking they might have something to do with the outcome might be a little off.  Chapman took a big step forward this past weekend against Menlo, and in my opinion, Cal Lu took a big step backward this past weekend against Claremont.  I think both games will be good games and I see a split, with both teams winning at home.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseballroxmysox on March 03, 2009, 12:23:30 AM
I would love to agree with Big Papa, but will have to agree with Parkman. 
It really is going to depend on what teams shows up that day - Chapman from McMurry or Chapman from LaVerne;  CLU from CMS or CLU from LaVerne.

We shall see................... ::)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DIIIBASEBALLFAN on March 03, 2009, 03:29:33 AM
Mar. 6  2:30 PM Fri. Cal Lutheran @ Chapman Hart Park Orange CA

Mar. 7  1:00 PM Sat. Chapman @ Cal Lutheran Thousand Oaks CA

2009 Panthers
http://www1.chapman.edu/athletics/08-09/baseball/teamcume.htm

2009 Kingsmen
http://www.clusports.com/stats/baseball/2009/teamcume.htm





Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on March 03, 2009, 04:30:38 AM


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Thanks!  So, 30 HR to go.  Very doable if he stays healthy, especially given the home dimensions at Pomona.  Something to keep an eye on over the next couple years.
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Unfortunately Hedman is a senior this year, so 30 more this season would be pretty tough. Still  is having an outstanding run though. Really says something about Cortez's feat too... 17.5 HR's a year for all four years!

Im itching for the hen's to play some real competition... cal tech this weekend. After that, though, they host Ithaca on March 9th and Hendrix on March 11th. Lots of baseball coming up, as im sure is true for all the schools getting ready for spring break. Hens will play 13 games in 16 days starting this friday. Is everybody else stuffing their schedules over the next few weeks?

Finally, I too am quite excited for the Cal Lu- Chapman series and given the hen's opponent this weekend I may try to catch a game. If so, I'll be sure to share some of what I see!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 03, 2009, 12:51:30 PM
Quote from: baseballroxmysox on March 03, 2009, 12:23:30 AM
I would love to agree with Big Papa, but will have to agree with Parkman. 
It really is going to depend on what teams shows up that day - Chapman from McMurry or Chapman from LaVerne;  CLU from CMS or CLU from LaVerne.

We shall see................... ::)

OOo. Nice call there Baseball. As of thus far, both teams have indeed shown that they are capable of winning, but also losing on any given day. In this sense, it should turn out to be a good two game series (with the panthers walking away with the W).

As for the Hens, Geeze, you guys have the Bombers coming up. These guys will be so confused in seeing that your baseball field is not covered in snow, the sky being clear and of course our weather being much better then were they are coming from. Its an easy win. For some odd reason, these foreign teams end up getting lost in the translation that "yes, the sun does shine in March out here in So. Cal"
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: HALLEBASEBALL on March 03, 2009, 10:55:32 PM
YO

West is weak.  Chapman has its work cut out.  They are still the best in the west. Friday will be the answer.  Do you want to know if the West will be Chapman ? Friday will answer that question Cal Lue  is the  team that will give you all a reason to hope Chapman will or will not advance.  I think that for the first time in 10 years Chapman is not the over powering team its  been. However as the team learns its idenity its still the best team I have seen this year.  Is the west weak ? Yes. This week will set the stage for a SCIAC TEAM TO FINALLY TAKE THE CROWN. The bummer is that The Panthers could still show us that there down year is still better tan the SCIAC TEAMS. The outcome of the weekend games will only tell if the Panthers are vulnable to defeat of the SCIAC teams. A Chapman team in a down year is still  a  team that is equal to a SCIAC team.  My guess is that The Panthers will show all you Panther haters that Coach T will WIN with again not the best talent but with the smarest Baseball Players and the best Coaching.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CMSfan on March 04, 2009, 12:20:44 AM
Quote from: P-P Fan on March 03, 2009, 04:30:38 AM
Unfortunately Hedman is a senior this year, so 30 more this season would be pretty tough. Still  is having an outstanding run though. Really says something about Cortez's feat too... 17.5 HR's a year for all four years!

My mistake.  Guess I was looking at the 2008 roster when I saw that Hedman was a junior.

And, yes, Cortez was impressive.  From day 1.  That will be a tough record to break.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 05, 2009, 11:53:43 PM
Here is a break down of the SCIAC and the CA Independents and where they rank as far as in-region games so far.

1. Cal Lutheran  8-1  .888 win%
2. Pomona         6-1  .857 win%
3. Redlands       6-2  .750 win%
4. Claremont     5-2  .714 win%
5. Chapman      7-4  .636 win%
6. Whittier        5-3  .625 win%
7. Occidental    8-7  .533 win%
8. La Verne      3-3  .500 win%
9. East Bay      5-7  .417 win%
10. Cal Tech    0-7  .000 win%

Almost all of these will change this weekend.  I will do my best to keep them updated to share and compare.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: nvnorthpaw on March 06, 2009, 06:33:08 PM
Is anyone currently watching/listening to the CLU-Chapman game and would be interested in giving an update??
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CMSfan on March 06, 2009, 08:34:16 PM
CMS 12, Whittier 2

Box score: http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/stats/wcbb12.htm (http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/stats/wcbb12.htm)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: HALLEBASEBALL on March 06, 2009, 09:10:43 PM
Wow CLU is not the team I have been reading about. They are still #1 in the BUSH Baseball.  "Thats all you got", Thats it" is all I heard from the bench players as Wade made them look silly They will be in the outfield Saturday as they are the Best Hecklers in the West.  Try playing catch.  La Verne will win the SCIAC
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: HALLEBASEBALL on March 06, 2009, 09:22:30 PM
Quote from: nvnorthpaw on March 06, 2009, 06:33:08 PM
Is anyone currently watching/listening to the CLU-Chapman game and would be interested in giving an update??




Quote from: HALLEBASEBALL on March 06, 2009, 09:10:43 PM
Wow CLU is not the team I have been reading about. They are still #1 in the BUSH Baseball.  "Thats all you got", Thats it" is all I heard from the bench players as Wade made them look silly They will be in the outfield Saturday as they are the Best Hecklers in the West.  Try playing catch.  La Verne will win the SCIAC
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on March 06, 2009, 09:28:37 PM
Chapman 9
Cal Lu       2
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 06, 2009, 09:29:29 PM
Quote from: HALLEBASEBALL on March 06, 2009, 09:10:43 PM
Wow CLU is not the team I have been reading about. They are still #1 in the BUSH Baseball.  "Thats all you got", Thats it" is all I heard from the bench players as Wade made them look silly They will be in the outfield Saturday as they are the Best Hecklers in the West.  Try playing catch.  La Verne will win the SCIAC

And this is a great way to show some class for your school.  Chapman beat them pretty bad, which has been the case the last 6 years, so it shouldn't come as a shock to you.  Cal Lu has always had a bunch of loud mouth guys on the bench and that will never change.  I guess I just figured someone that is so worried about them being bush league wouldn't come on a message board to promote it.
One game, thats all it was.  CLU could come back tomorrow or Chapman could take both, who knows?
La Verne will not win the SCIAC.  They are 0-4.  It's over for them.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: utilitycat17 on March 06, 2009, 10:25:33 PM
Chapman v Cal Lu
2000 5-0-1 CU
2001 3-0 CU
2002 1-1
2003 2-0 CU
2004 1-1
2005 2-1 CU
2006 2-1 CU
2007 3-0 CU
2008 3-0 CU
2009 1-0 one game left
Totals 23-4-1 CU
This has not been much of a series for the last 10 years.  I don't know what it is, but Cal Lu does not play Chapman well.  Cal Lu did not look good today.  They do have a couple of big guys in the middle of their order that can swing it, but they didn't seem to have much outside of that.  Gelber was not impressive.  He doesn't throw hard, although he does have some movement.  Chapman hit him very consistantly all game.  With another well timed hit the game could have been even more out of hand.  There were a lot of mistakes in the game.  Cal Lu had had 5 errors, 3 runners picked off, and another bad baserunning mistake with a runner taking off for third on a grounder to short with 0 outs.  Chapman made an error and had a runner picked off too.  It wasn't a great game on either side, but Chapman outplayed Cal Lu in all aspects. 

Tommorrow should be telling for both teams.  If either team wants to do anything in the playoffs they have to prove they can beat a good team without their best arm.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: HALLEBASEBALL on March 06, 2009, 10:26:45 PM
Jack

I didnt come on to say thety were bush.  Relax.  My thoughts were that they are not the team to beat in the West  Oldschool Baseball has no room for Bush.  Just a 52 year old Baseball Junkie that has a oldschool attitude on the Bush part of that game. Relax Jackie relax. One game at a time I agree with you. Wow SORRY for pissing you off . Thats not what Iam about . Leave the hecklers at home you will get the respect that you have earned.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: HALLEBASEBALL on March 06, 2009, 10:30:21 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 06, 2009, 09:29:29 PM
Quote from: HALLEBASEBALL on March 06, 2009, 09:10:43 PM
Wow CLU is not the team I have been reading about. They are still #1 in the BUSH Baseball.  "Thats all you got", Thats it" is all I heard from the bench players as Wade made them look silly They will be in the outfield Saturday as they are the Best Hecklers in the West.  Try playing catch.  La Verne will win the SCIAC

And this is a great way to show some class for your school.  Chapman beat them pretty bad, which has been the case the last 6 years, so it shouldn't come as a shock to you.  Cal Lu has always had a bunch of loud mouth guys on the bench and that will never change.  I guess I just figured someone that is so worried about them being bush league wouldn't come on a message board to promote it.
One game, thats all it was.  CLU could come back tomorrow or Chapman could take both, who knows?
La Verne will not win the SCIAC.  They are 0-4.  It's over for them.


Iam not a student and its not my school.   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: HALLEBASEBALL on March 06, 2009, 10:38:07 PM
QUOTE FROM JACK I guess I just figured someone that is so worried about them being bush league wouldn't come on a message board to promote it.

JACK
Read my post and you will see that you are out of line to think I came on the board to promote anything but a positive passion for D3 baseball.  I forgive you Jack and Respect your Baseball Passion.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 06, 2009, 10:42:44 PM
Quote from: HALLEBASEBALL on March 06, 2009, 09:10:43 PM
Wow CLU is not the team I have been reading about. They are still #1 in the BUSH Baseball. 

I guess I read this wrong.  My bad.

Either way, what UtilityCat said is dead on.  Since 2000, Chapman has pretty much owned Cal Lu.  It seems like every time they play, Chapman plays very very well and CLU plays bad.  I am by no means saying that is the reason Chapman is beating them so often.  Cal Lu puckers big time whenever Chapman is even mentioned.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: HALLEBASEBALL on March 06, 2009, 10:52:36 PM
The West is still up for grabs. The lack of Pitching for the first time in a long time has Chapman fans relaying on the players to play the game as its should be played. No advantage this year Its a simple game throw strikes , play catch and put the ball in play. Play with respect and Guys like me will respect the program . But who am I?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CMSfan on March 06, 2009, 11:54:03 PM
I just noticed that Max Rose from CMS has 26 RBI in 11 games (granted, 13 of them came in 4 games against either Caltech or La Sierra).  I thought that was pretty impressive and thought that would have put him on pace for an NCAA single season record.  Then I looked it up and saw that some guy from Wisconsin-Oshkosh had 121 RBI in 44 games back in 1995.  Are you kidding me?!  Gotta love some of the numbers guys put up in college ball, especially DIII.

Anyway, the CMS offense has some potential.  If they can be consistent and if the pitching comes together, they could put themselves in the mix in SCIAC.  Tomorrow's a big day for them.  If they sweep Whittier, I think that will be a wake up call to the rest of SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CMSfan on March 06, 2009, 11:58:16 PM
Quote from: HALLEBASEBALL on March 06, 2009, 09:10:43 PM
Wow CLU is not the team I have been reading about. They are still #1 in the BUSH Baseball.  "Thats all you got", Thats it" is all I heard from the bench players as Wade made them look silly They will be in the outfield Saturday as they are the Best Hecklers in the West.

From what I've seen, I'd say Oxy has the best hecklers at baseball games...at least, when they have fans there.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: chakote on March 07, 2009, 01:09:37 AM
Quote from: HALLEBASEBALL on March 06, 2009, 10:52:36 PM
The West is still up for grabs. The lack of Pitching for the first time in a long time has Chapman fans relaying on the players to play the game as its should be played. No advantage this year Its a simple game throw strikes , play catch and put the ball in play. Play with respect and Guys like me will respect the program . But who am I?
Halle;
I wouldn't call it lack of pitching I would call it lack of Yacko pitching!!! They are going to have to step up and find a replacement for Yacko. Kitchens is still there # 1 Ace and will do what he has done for the last 3 years and rack up the wins with a very low ERA. With  the games he isn't pitching Sigmond is going to have to step up, which he has done a masterful job of at least the games that I have seen him pitch in, he is one  of the pitcher that does not have to throw 90+ to have a winning season, he is a true pitcher and not a thrower. He can move the ball from side to side and up and down to keep the hitters of balance which is very Maddox like and we all know about Maddox and his I believe 20 years in the game that will make you look silly. But all that aside yes Chapman has to develop there young talent and if anybody can do it I am sure that coach Edwards is the guy to do it, and coach T has the experience and talent to bring the best out of young guns.

Jack is correct in todays game was only one game and Chapman can ill afford to lose to many more to stay in the hunt for another western regional title, and CLU is wound up tighter than rubber band on steroids which is what happens with winning and a team that isn't quite used to being on top of the leader board with a impressive w/l record this early in the season . But they have some talent and shouldn't be looked past as such as with any team in the division.

All though Halle is correct in his assesment with the antics that go on in CLU's back yard with the hecklers, the only thing that happens with that is as long as your on top, IMHO makes a team look kind of silly. If you start losing then I guess it is par for the course. But there was a post here some time back about the kids having thick skin and if they don't then it will be a long season for the ones that don't. at this level and beyond for those talented enough and lucky enough  to move on to the next level; then if they don't have thick skin then maybe they should go onto playing badmitton or something ;)

I think that Kitchens will do what Kitchens does best and win baseball games and after todays complete game with 2 earned runs and an ERA of 2.3 and 8 strikeouts with 3 runners picked off he is in the hunt for another AA season, he is the leader of the team and acts like one.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: HALLEBASEBALL on March 07, 2009, 01:53:24 AM
Ch53

This my 9th year following Chapman I think Iam right on.  Chapman will win . Win tomarrow to earn back the respect of the SCIAC. Play the game and we will see if we will repeat as West Champs. I too do like Siggy its #3 and #4???????? To win the West we always have had at least 3 deep. When we won it all we were 4 deep. Good luck Saturday.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 07, 2009, 02:14:02 AM
I think Chapman had the SCIAC's respect 100%.  Chapman has DOMINATED the SCIAC over the years, even if they have lost 4 games this year.  Chapman is the type of team that will run up 15 wins in a row, lose one, then win 10 more.  They are the model of consistency in the West region.
After seeing what they did to Cal Lu today, I don't see Chapman losing in Thousand Oaks on saturday.  Chapman could have found their mojo and are ready for another long streak of W's.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 07, 2009, 02:18:40 AM
Will ya look at that!  Cal Tech jumped out to a 2-0 lead on Pomona today...of course, it only took Pomona 1 inning to erase the lead, but good for the Beavers :P

http://www.pe.pomona.edu/sports/men/bsb/2008-09/stats/030609.htm
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 07, 2009, 08:49:49 AM
Quote from: CMSfan on March 06, 2009, 11:54:03 PM
I just noticed that Max Rose from CMS has 26 RBI in 11 games (granted, 13 of them came in 4 games against either Caltech or La Sierra).  I thought that was pretty impressive and thought that would have put him on pace for an NCAA single season record.  Then I looked it up and saw that some guy from Wisconsin-Oshkosh had 121 RBI in 44 games back in 1995.  Are you kidding me?!  Gotta love some of the numbers guys put up in college ball, especially DIII.

Anyway, the CMS offense has some potential.  If they can be consistent and if the pitching comes together, they could put themselves in the mix in SCIAC.  Tomorrow's a big day for them.  If they sweep Whittier, I think that will be a wake up call to the rest of SCIAC.

Tim Jorgensen, two-time national player of the year. He also hit 39 HRs in '95.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 07, 2009, 08:57:14 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 07, 2009, 08:49:49 AM
Quote from: CMSfan on March 06, 2009, 11:54:03 PM
I just noticed that Max Rose from CMS has 26 RBI in 11 games (granted, 13 of them came in 4 games against either Caltech or La Sierra).  I thought that was pretty impressive and thought that would have put him on pace for an NCAA single season record.  Then I looked it up and saw that some guy from Wisconsin-Oshkosh had 121 RBI in 44 games back in 1995.  Are you kidding me?!  Gotta love some of the numbers guys put up in college ball, especially DIII.

Anyway, the CMS offense has some potential.  If they can be consistent and if the pitching comes together, they could put themselves in the mix in SCIAC.  Tomorrow's a big day for them.  If they sweep Whittier, I think that will be a wake up call to the rest of SCIAC.

Tim Jorgensen, two-time national player of the year. He also hit 39 HRs in '95.
Watched TJ hit for the cycle of HRs (solo, 2-run, 3-run, granny) one game. Best D-III hitter I've ever seen.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 07, 2009, 02:42:31 PM
Redlands jumping all over La Verne in the first.  ULV scores one in the top of the first before Redlands comes back with 4 in the bottom of the first.  Tim Jolly started on the bump for ULV and was taken out after one.  Not a good start to the double-header with Redlands.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 07, 2009, 05:40:30 PM
Cal Lutheran- 11
Chapman-      1

Top of 8th
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: chakote on March 07, 2009, 06:26:27 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 07, 2009, 05:40:30 PM
Cal Lutheran- 11
Chapman-      1

Top of 8th
It looks like Cal Lu is going to split the series with Chapman??? It goes to show how home field advantage can make a difference. Also those first few games that Chapman lost are going to make the difference as the season goes on!!!! One pitch here and one pitch there changes the season.

This week will be huge for the Cats with all the east coast teams coming in to play the sunshine state and get some games in the sun. Pitching is everything especially when you have a young team that is looking for an identity. They have games Sunday Tuesday, Wednesday, Saturday, Tuesday,Saturday, Sunday Monday...... it could the season on the line here ???

The kids coming in from the east coast are going to be hungry from some sunshine and baseball; Hot dogs and sodas and to test there teams with some good baseball, hopefully we can disapoint them with a little humble pie to go with those dogs.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 07, 2009, 06:41:17 PM
Cal Lu      11
Chapman  4
Final

Good bounce back for Cal Lu, tough day for Chapman.  Looks like the roles reversed from last night.

Chakote-  The East coast teams do not count towards the In-region record, but the games could do a whole lot with confidence.  I wish CLU and Chapman would have played a 3 game series.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseballroxmysox on March 07, 2009, 11:28:01 PM
SCIAC recap for this weekend (as of Sat 3/7/09)

Pomona takes all 3 games from Caltech
Redlands takes all 3 from LaVerne
Cal Lu and Chapamn split 1-1 (non conf), but West Region
Claremont MS - takes 2 of 3 from Whittier (3rd game extra innings)
Occidental - no games this weekend

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2008-09/standings

  Conference    
Pomona-Pitzer 6-0
Redlands  6-0
Cal Lutheran  5-1
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  6-3
Occidental  0-6
La Verne  0-6
Caltech  0-9

Quite interesting weekend in the West.   ::)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: C.M.Stag on March 08, 2009, 12:19:15 AM
Stags split at home today; dropping the first game 5-4, but bouncing back and winning in the 10th in the second.

Impressions from this weekend: Starting pitching for the Stags is much improved this year. I believe all three starters had quality starts this series which is a very good sign. The bullpen struggled today, losing the lead in both games. This has been the weak link the last two series, and if the Stags want to be contenders this year, they will have to find some consistency from this group. Final thought on the Stags, Max Rose is really hitting the ball well this season. He hit the game-winning ground rule double in game two. 

As for Whittier, they struggled on defense at times, and their bullpen lacks depth, but they certainly are capable of taking a game or two from any of the SCIAC frontrunners.   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CMSfan on March 08, 2009, 03:23:00 AM
Following up on the previous post, the Stags had a 4-2 lead in the 7th in the first game of the doubleheader, but lost the lead after they pulled Rose.  Whittier made some great defensive plays to hold the lead.

If CMS can figure out who the go to guys out of the bullpen are (plenty to choose from), they will be dangerous.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: chakote on March 08, 2009, 04:04:20 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 07, 2009, 06:41:17 PM
Cal Lu      11
Chapman  4
Final

Good bounce back for Cal Lu, tough day for Chapman.  Looks like the roles reversed from last night.

Chakote-  The East coast teams do not count towards the In-region record, but the games could do a whole lot with confidence.  I wish CLU and Chapman would have played a 3 game series.
I'm with you Jack a 3 game series would show a whole lot towards what will transpire with the rest of the season barring any injuries; and I know as far as the in region games it is like you said as far as boosting confidence for the local teams. The eastern teams coming this way doesn't count but for confidence and if you loose to many games it will count as a moral defeat if for nothing else.

I am looking at the odd number of games and the off days that are not the usual for the local teams; it will go to show who has the pitching and who doesn't. IMHO I have always gone with you can never have enough pitching and a strong 1,2,3 in the rotation or at least a strong 1,2 with an as strong bull pen. I am curious as the strength of the CLU pitching past 1 and 2 or at least as one of the past posters was bragging about I think that we haven't heard from lately but I am sure we will with todays win over Chapman.

Sigmond was hit hard today, I just hope that his next outing he will bounce back and pitch like he did against Menlo with a complete game and some help from the offense. Chapman has always had a strong pitching staff and when they are clicking there offense will pick up the slack. I have to give it to CLU today and I believe that in the Error column the rolls where reversed today, you can't give a team that many chances to beat you because they inevidibly will.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on March 08, 2009, 10:47:41 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 07, 2009, 02:18:40 AM
Will ya look at that!  Cal Tech jumped out to a 2-0 lead on Pomona today...of course, it only took Pomona 1 inning to erase the lead, but good for the Beavers :P

http://www.pe.pomona.edu/sports/men/bsb/2008-09/stats/030609.htm
More surprisingly, in the first game at Cal Tech Saturday, the beavers held a 2-0 lead going in to the fifth inning before the hens' bats finally woke up (en route to a 15-2 win in 7innings). From what i hear, the kid who pitched for them was actually decent and their team looked more athletic than in years past. In a perfect storm of events against a poor team, its possible they could squeek one out this year. Baseball's a crazy sport.

In any case, excited to see the hens meet up with some east coast schools over the next two weeks.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on March 09, 2009, 11:25:51 PM
Hens beat Ithaca today 10-6. Ithaca had an early 4-0 lead, but Mike Silva hit two 2-run HR's to tie it up and the hens never looked back. James Brunswick very impressive on the hill once he settled down(4 runs in the first two and then 5 scoreless after that). Ithaca swings the bat pretty well from what it looked like... 9 hits.
I see the bombers beat CLU 8-3, any details on that game?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 10, 2009, 12:46:02 PM
Please, any updates on this weeks weekday games will be greatly appreciated. Spring break baseball in SCIAC land is awesome, but, keeping updated during work is one hard task. I tried updating this board last year during this time, but, cannot do it this year because of the new place that I work at.

Since we have Eastcoast like weather out here (not much sun yesterday, cold like conditions) I am sure the Bombers felt right at home (ok, maybe not).....
Should be another interesting day.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 10, 2009, 01:42:44 PM
Quote from: P-P Fan on March 09, 2009, 11:25:51 PM
Hens beat Ithaca today 10-6. Ithaca had an early 4-0 lead, but Mike Silva hit two 2-run HR's to tie it up and the hens never looked back. James Brunswick very impressive on the hill once he settled down(4 runs in the first two and then 5 scoreless after that). Ithaca swings the bat pretty well from what it looked like... 9 hits.
I see the bombers beat CLU 8-3, any details on that game?

Here is what I saw from the box score in the CLU/ Ithaca game.

Cal Lu started a kid that had not thrown yet this year.  He didn't do too bad but only went 3.2 innings.  Cal Lu made 4 errors and the 5th inning was a mess when they gave up 4 runs on only one hit.  Tons of walks and a few errors in the inning, which started with 2 outs.
This is by no means taking anything away from Ithaca.  They played solid for a team just coming out of the field house.

The Hendrix game was very well played.  No errors by either team and solid play all around.  The only thing that was bad was the hit-by-pitches.  After CLU took the lead with a bomb in the 8th, the next guy was hit with the first pitch.  He was the same kid that hit a home run in his last at bat.  Maybe it was payback for the Hendrix kid that had already been hit twice.  Other than that, great game.
Hendrix is one bad inning and one pass ball away from possibly being 0-2 on this road trip.  Take away the 8 run 2nd inning against Chapman and the pass ball in the 9th last night, they could very well be 2-0 on this trip, beating 2 ranked opponents.  Kudos to the Hendrix coaches and players.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 10, 2009, 10:18:08 PM
Can someone help me out here?  I am wondering how a kid enters a game down 1-0, gives up 3 runs to make it 4-0, but gets the loss.

Belter from OXY threw 7 innings, giving up an unearned run.  Doherty comes in and gives up 3 runs in his two innings of work.  OXY never scored, so how does Belter not get tagged with the loss?

http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/stats/ic-oxy.htm
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on March 10, 2009, 10:27:07 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 10, 2009, 10:18:08 PM
Belter from OXY threw 7 innings, giving up an unearned run.  Doherty comes in and gives up 3 runs in his two innings of work.  OXY never scored, so how does Belter not get tagged with the loss?

Obviously a scoring mistake. Belter should have been tagged with the loss despite only giving up an unearned run. An e-mail to the coach should fix it.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 10, 2009, 10:31:22 PM
Thanks OxyBob.  I was in fear that I was losing my mind.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on March 11, 2009, 01:00:26 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 10, 2009, 10:31:22 PM
Thanks OxyBob.  I was in fear that I was losing my mind.

The Oxy web site doesn't have it straight either:

QuoteBelter was solid on the hill, tossing seven strong, striking out three and allowing no earned runs. He forced nine ground balls and got seven fly ball outs. Belter left trailing 1-0, after Ithaca scored an unearned run in the fifth inning, but the Bombers quickly strung together four hits in the eighth against Kieran Doherty (1-1) to add some insurance to their lead. Doherty struck out four batters in two innings of relief, but was tagged with the loss.

This SCIAC baseball item was in yesterday's "Campus 5.0" column in the San Bernardino Sun (http://www.sbsun.com/sports/ci_11876916):

QuoteThe University of Redlands baseball team completed an impressive sweep by taking three games from defending SCIAC champion University of La Verne. The Bulldogs (9-3, 6-0) posted wins of 6-2, 8-3 and 16-8.

Sophomore designated hitter Manny Cardeiro, a transfer from Southwestern College, boasts a team-leading .452 batting average. He also has an on-base percentage of .500 and a slugging percentage of .619.

"He hits the ball harder and farther than any guy I've had here," coach Scott Laverty said. "He has been pitched around a bit but he has been very impressive."

The Bulldogs also have gotten strong showings from their veteran players, most notably Matt Goldstein (.431), who leads the team in RBIs (16), hits (22) and total bases (33).

Senior right-hander Nolan Nicholson (4-0, 3.15 ERA) has maintained his reputation as the staff ace. Freshman Josh Snyder has settled in as the No. 2 starter with junior Michael Lessig holding down No. 3.

Sophomore Derek Johnson, brother of catcher Jefre Johnson, has earned the closer's role.

The win in the second game of Saturday's doubleheader was the 100th SCIAC victory for Laverty, in his 10th season.

"To come against a quality team like La Verne makes it even better," he said.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on March 11, 2009, 11:20:45 PM
Hens pulled off a win against Hendrix today, 9-4 victory. Drew Hedman had 3 HR's and James Kang added one too. Hens looked pretty impressive, especially the bullpen that was one of their only question marks on the year. Wasn't impressed by hendrix at all, though the scores show that they were close against chapman and cal lu and actually beat mckenna. Any other sciac teams in action today?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 11, 2009, 11:35:43 PM
Quote from: P-P Fan on March 11, 2009, 11:20:45 PM
Hens pulled off a win against Hendrix today, 9-4 victory. Drew Hedman had 3 HR's and James Kang added one too. Hens looked pretty impressive, especially the bullpen that was one of their only question marks on the year. Wasn't impressed by hendrix at all, though the scores show that they were close against chapman and cal lu and actually beat mckenna. Any other sciac teams in action today?

This was the 4th game in 4 days for Hendrix which might have made them a little thin.  They had a very respectable trip, even if they went 1-3.
Three bombs for Hedman?  Don't these teams know how to pitch around a guy?  Don't leave anything over the plate or inside, especially at P-P where it is about 300 to right.  Not taking anything away from the guy, he is a flat out legit hitter. 
I just don't know what to think about the SCIAC so far.  Three teams are off to a good start and the rest are average at best. 
La Verne has been terrible.  Only way to put it.
Pomona has played 9 games against pretty bad teams (Oxy, Pacific, Cal Tech) but they smoked PLU.
Cal Lu has been good, against some pretty bad teams (La Verne, La Sierra) but they did split with Chapman.
Redlands has been solid, but they throw the same 4 guys all the time.  Those 4 have thrown almost 80% of their innings. 
Chapman lost to La Verne twice, Whittier twice, Cal Lu once.  That might be more SCIAC losses than they have had in the past 3 years!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on March 13, 2009, 09:16:12 PM
Hens pulled out a close one today against UPS. Colvin looked good on the mound but the offense wasn't doing much so they entered the bottom of the ninth tied at 4. After an intentional walk to hedman with one out, Nino was hit by a pitch and then both runners advanced on a wild pitch. UPS was forced to intentionally walk another batter and then Nick Frederick (who already had a two-run HR earlier) got the game-winning hit up the middle.
Exciting win but the hens need to come out swinging tomorrow against the rutgers teams (camden and newark).
Whats the word on the rest of the games involving sciac teams?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 13, 2009, 09:42:33 PM
SCIAC games from Friday-

Redlands beat Menlo 7-3
Pomona beat Puget Sound 5-4
Whittier beat Rutgers-Camden 13-3
No word yet on CMS and Ithica
CLU beat East Bay 9-2
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on March 15, 2009, 03:38:09 AM
Hens sweep Rutgers teams today by score of 13-1 against Camden (7 Innings) and 14-7 against Newark. Hens bats are looking scary despite injuries to Mandelblatt, Campbell, Bingham, and Nino who have all been sidelined for at least some portion of time. Despite obvious bias, tough to spot any weaknesses in the Hen's game right now- but I was thinking the same thing last year before the collapse at the end of the year.
In any case, it'll be interesting to see the Hens battle Ithaca again tomorrow with Ithaca gunning for the Hens.
So what's the scoop on the rest of SCIAC this weekend? Heard CMS beat Newark with ease, anything else?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: nvnorthpaw on March 15, 2009, 05:23:11 PM
So how many HR's does Hedman have?  I imagine both Hedman (Pomona) and Hartman (CLU) are among the league/regional leaders.  I know hartman has 9 thus far but I cannot find Hedman's stats anywhere..
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on March 15, 2009, 06:29:25 PM
Right now Hedman is sitting at 12. Here's a link to the Hens stats (they finally got a new athletics website... it's about time):

http://www.pe.pomona.edu/sports/men/bsb/2008-09/stats/teamcume.htm

As I'm writing this, however, the stats from the second game yesterday against Rutgers Newark (in which Hedman hit a HR) or the game today against Ithaca.
On that note, the Hens pulled out another win against the bombers by a score of 12 or 13 to 3. The Hens offense kept tacking on runs and then added 4 or 5 in the top of the ninth to seal the deal. Even with the injuries, they are hitting the crap out of the ball.

Not to pester, but any word on the other SCIAC teams this weekend??
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 15, 2009, 09:31:11 PM
P-P fan, I will put up the region rankings in a little while.
As far as the SCIAC, Pomona is on fire!  I will say that the competition they are facing is not the greatest, they are killing teams.  Hedman is in a zone right now!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DIIIBASEBALLFAN on March 15, 2009, 09:42:13 PM
March 15  
La Sierra  10  La Verne  22 
Ithaca  3  Pomona-Pitzer  12   
Rutgers-Camden  7  Redlands  16 
Rutgers-Newark  13  Whittier  6
Kean  1  La Verne  16   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 15, 2009, 11:41:51 PM
Updated "Far West" regional rankings. As of 3/15/09

TEAM                                    WINNING %
1.   George Fox                      1.000
2.   Pomona-Pitzer                  .917           
3.   Cal Lutheran                     .867
4.   Linfield                              .786
      Redlands                          .786
6.   Claremont                        .667
7.   Chapman                         .643
8.   Pacific Lutheran               .615
9.   Whittier                           .500
      Occidental                       .500
11. Willamette                       .455
12. Puget Sound                   .444
13. La Verne                         .400
14. Menlo                              .385
15. Pacific                              .333
      East Bay                          .333
17. Whitman                          .125
18. Whitworth                        .111
19. Lewis & Clark                   .091
20. Cal Tech                           0

There could be some mistakes but I think these are pretty much right on.  Thoughts?



Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on March 16, 2009, 01:42:39 PM
Redlands baseball got some press in the Redlands Daily Facts:

QuoteUR splits doubleheader (http://www.redlandsdailyfacts.com/sports/ci_11921592)

Bulldog baseball team beats Menlo College Friday, then splits Saturday games with Puget Sound

OxyBob

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 17, 2009, 01:50:13 AM
I finally added the ASC and SCAC schools to the mix.  Pretty interesting as it looks like all of the Texas schools are beating up on each other.


TEAM                                    WINNING %
1.   George Fox                      1.000
2.   Pomona-Pitzer                  .917           
3.   Cal Lutheran                     .867
4.   UT Tyler                             .833
5.   Linfield                              .786
      Redlands                          .786
7.   Claremont                        .667
8.   UT Dallas                          .647
9.   Chapman                         .643
10. UMHB                               .625
 
That is the top 10 as of 3/16/09

I realize there is still a lot of baseball to be played but the SCAC West needs to have a team win their conference tourney to get in.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 20, 2009, 10:28:20 PM
Why in the world are the SCIAC teams playing each other in the California Invitational???  Seems like a total waste of games in my eyes.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 20, 2009, 10:31:37 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 20, 2009, 10:28:20 PM
Why in the world are the SCIAC teams playing each other in the California Invitational???  Seems like a total waste of games in my eyes.
Maybe they could not get other teams to fill the brackets this year?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 20, 2009, 10:49:50 PM
I am sure thats the case.  Its too bad because some of these teams have not played their regular conference series yet.  I think the NWC going to a 32 game conference schedule hurts the tournament.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 21, 2009, 12:41:37 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 20, 2009, 10:49:50 PM
I am sure thats the case.  Its too bad because some of these teams have not played their regular conference series yet.  I think the NWC going to a 32 game conference schedule hurts the tournament.
If the NWC was a major factor in the tourney, then I understand.

The NWC does ameliorate their scheduling problems tho'.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 21, 2009, 10:18:00 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 21, 2009, 12:41:37 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 20, 2009, 10:49:50 PM
I am sure thats the case.  Its too bad because some of these teams have not played their regular conference series yet.  I think the NWC going to a 32 game conference schedule hurts the tournament.
If the NWC was a major factor in the tourney, then I understand.

The NWC does ameliorate their scheduling problems tho'.
My 7th-grade spelling bee exit. May be the first time I've seen the word since. And to think it was simple phonetics ... Anyway, way to nerd up the boards, Ralph!  ;) And thanks for the memory.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 21, 2009, 10:22:02 AM
Quote from: OshDude on March 21, 2009, 10:18:00 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 21, 2009, 12:41:37 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 20, 2009, 10:49:50 PM
I am sure thats the case.  Its too bad because some of these teams have not played their regular conference series yet.  I think the NWC going to a 32 game conference schedule hurts the tournament.
If the NWC was a major factor in the tourney, then I understand.

The NWC does ameliorate their scheduling problems tho'.
My 7th-grade spelling bee exit. May be the first time I've seen the word since. And to think it was simple phonetics ... Anyway, way to nerd up the boards, Ralph!  ;) And thanks for the memory.

I must admit that I had to look the word up.  Well played.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: swede on March 21, 2009, 11:02:02 PM
Hi Ralph,
I just recieved your letter and wants to thank you for the paper and the tag. The tag is now on display and I'll get the paper up soon as I pickup a frame to hang on the wall.

HSU will be up here this fall so I'll have to get ahold of one of the fans who'l be coming up.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseballcrazy on March 23, 2009, 12:10:00 AM
Chapman beats Occidental 24-8
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 23, 2009, 12:25:18 AM
Quote from: swede on March 21, 2009, 11:02:02 PM
Hi Ralph,
I just recieved your letter and wants to thank you for the paper and the tag. The tag is now on display and I'll get the paper up soon as I pickup a frame to hang on the wall.

HSU will be up here this fall so I'll have to get ahold of one of the fans who'l be coming up.
Swede, thanks for the post.

You can see how we did not perceive that image of the Indian chief as hostile or abusive.  It is certainly a collectors' item now.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: IkeepScore on March 23, 2009, 03:55:19 PM
The SCIAC sure did beat up on the east coast the last two weekends
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 23, 2009, 03:57:36 PM
Quote from: IkeepScore on March 23, 2009, 03:55:19 PM
The SCIAC sure did beat up on the east coast the last two weekends

They should... being outside for two months already is a huge advantage over the schools just stepping ouot of the gym.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on March 23, 2009, 04:39:47 PM
Quote from: baseballcrazy on March 23, 2009, 12:10:00 AM
Chapman beats Occidental 24-8

I took in a few innings of the Chapman-Oxy game. Oxy's Brooks Belter should have given up nothing in the first inning, but consecutive errors on routine grounders led to 7 unearned runs, and that was that. Wayde Kitchens threw 5 innings for Chapman; he gave up 2 singles, a run on a single, stolen base and 2 groundouts, and struck out 8, while not appearing to break a sweat.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 23, 2009, 04:47:25 PM
With Kitchens being quite dominant at Oxy, I feel that Chapman is in trouble a bit as they gave up eight runs after he left in  only 4 innings.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 23, 2009, 05:57:42 PM
I just looked at the box score and am curious what in the world the Oxy coach is thinking trying to steam second in the 1st inning while down by 7 runs!!??

BigPoppa-  I agree that Chapman could be introuble without Kitchens on the mound.  Their bullpen has been decent but their other starters have been less than spectacular.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 23, 2009, 05:59:31 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 23, 2009, 05:57:42 PM
I just looked at the box score and am curious what in the world the Oxy coach is thinking trying to steam second in the 1st inning while down by 7 runs!!??

BigPoppa-  I agree that Chapman could be introuble without Kitchens on the mound.  Their bullpen has been decent but their other starters have been less than spectacular.

There are reasons that some coaches get hired at (insert national power here) while others get hired at OXY.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 23, 2009, 06:06:52 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 23, 2009, 05:59:31 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 23, 2009, 05:57:42 PM
I just looked at the box score and am curious what in the world the Oxy coach is thinking trying to steam second in the 1st inning while down by 7 runs!!??

BigPoppa-  I agree that Chapman could be introuble without Kitchens on the mound.  Their bullpen has been decent but their other starters have been less than spectacular.

There are reasons that some coaches get hired at (insert national power here) while others get hired at OXY.

Hahahahaha, that just made my day!!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: oldcat on March 23, 2009, 06:55:31 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 23, 2009, 04:47:25 PM
With Kitchens being quite dominant at Oxy, I feel that Chapman is in trouble a bit as they gave up eight runs after he left in  only 4 innings.

Levitt did a decent job for the first two innings, but in the 8th he walked 4 and gave up a hit before getting pulled and not recording an out. Anderson came in and got an out and walked a batter, then irsfeld came in and walked a guy then got the final two outs in the inning. Pittman came in the 9th and was just hit. I think if the game was close at all semel would have came in.
In regards to the other starters, they have been nothing more than a disappointment. Sigman is great one day then horrible the next. Matamoros is struggling at this point and I won't be surprised if Luzar is now the number 3 starter.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on March 24, 2009, 11:50:09 AM
Pomona item from the "Campus Life 5.0" column in the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin (http://www.dailybulletin.com/ci_11983096):

QuoteThe Pomona-Pitzer baseball team has won 18 of its last 19 games and hopes to keep that momentum when it plays the University of Redlands this weekend.

The Sagehens (19-3, 6-0) will battle the Bulldogs (15-6, 6-0) at 3 p.m. on Friday at Redlands and then host Saturday's doubleheader slated for 11 a.m.

The Sagehens are just returning from a spring break trip to Arizona where they went 3-1, swept two games from Keene State and split two with Middlebury.

"It's a big series. It always is when we play them," Sagehens coach Frank Pericolosi said of the upcoming series against Redlands, which is ranked No. 19 nationally. "Both teams are playing well right now."

The Sagehens are led by senior first baseman Drew Hedman, who is putting up the same gaudy numbers he has put up the last three years. He is hitting .561 and leading the SCIAC in hits (46), runs scored (32), RBIs (44), home runs (14) and total bases (101). He has an on-base percentage of .622 and slugging average of 1.232.

"Those are good enough numbers to get him All-American honors even if he didn't play another game this season," Pericolosi said.

Pericolosi has also gotten stellar play out of junior second baseman James Kang (.400), senior shortstop Brandon Huerta (.357), catcher Mike Silva (.378) and sophomore outfielder Nick Frederick (.366).

Sophomore David Colvin (2-0, 3.38) will be on the mound Friday with Mandelblatt (3-2, 3.77) and Tom Chuch (4-1, 4.57) doing the honors on Saturday.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: IkeepScore on March 24, 2009, 03:37:54 PM
Sounds like the Sage Chickens are doing well this year
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 24, 2009, 06:36:33 PM
Quote from: IkeepScore on March 24, 2009, 03:37:54 PM
Sounds like the Sage Chickens are doing well this year

I am not sold on them yet.  They have played about 3 games against teams that have a winning record.  This weekend will tell a lot about this team, and it will tell a lot about Redlands as well.  I think P-P takes 2 of 3.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on March 24, 2009, 10:55:31 PM
Regarding Drew Hedman's numbers, how on earth could he only have 14 walks in 22 games?  Don't any of the opposing coaches understand the concept of pitching around a dangerous hitter even if it means the intentional walk once or twice a game?  And yes, there are other good hitters on the Pomona-Pitzer team, but I think I'd take my chances with those other guys.

(Pomona-Pitzer stats:  http://pe.pomona.edu/sports/men/bsb/2008-09/stats/teamcume.htm )
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 24, 2009, 11:43:56 PM
Quote from: frank_ezelle on March 24, 2009, 10:55:31 PM
Regarding Drew Hedman's numbers, how on earth could he only have 14 walks in 22 games?  Don't any of the opposing coaches understand the concept of pitching around a dangerous hitter even if it means the intentional walk once or twice a game?  And yes, there are other good hitters on the Pomona-Pitzer team, but I think I'd take my chances with those other guys.

(Pomona-Pitzer stats:  http://pe.pomona.edu/sports/men/bsb/2008-09/stats/teamcume.htm )

That is a very good question Frank.  I would rather take my chances against a lot of their other hitter, than let Hedman hit 2 bombs and drive in 5.  I am sure SCIAC teams will stay away from him.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on March 25, 2009, 12:30:01 AM
Quote from: frank_ezelle on March 24, 2009, 10:55:31 PM
Regarding Drew Hedman's numbers, how on earth could he only have 14 walks in 22 games?

Pomona is 19-3. They have 3 wins against Caltech, which they outscored 50-5, so no need to pitch around Hedman there. Pomona has 3 wins against Oxy, which the Sagehens outscored 35-9, so no need to pitch around him there. Pomona has 6 other blowout wins of 10-3, 19-2, 13-1, 14-7, 12-3, and 14-5, so no need to pitch around him there. Pomona won 3 games 3-0, 10-6, and 5-4, and in those games Hedman had o-fers. In Pomona's 8-7 win over Keene St., Hedman had one hit, a 3-run homer in the 4th inning which tied the game, so no need to pitch around him there. He had a big day against Hendrix in a 9-4 win with an RBI single and 3 solo homers, so the Hendrix coach was a little stubborn, but still they were solo homers. In Pomona's 5-4 win over Westmont, Hedman hit 2 solo homers, so no need to pitch around him there. That accounts for 18 of 19 Pomona wins in which it looks like it wasn't really necessary to pitch around Hedman. (The box score of the 11-6 win over Middlebury isn't available, so I couldn't tell what happened there.) Plus it isn't like the guys hitting behind Hedman are stiffs: Silva .378, Frederick .366, Bingham .365.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: IkeepScore on March 25, 2009, 01:38:24 AM
Wow whoever keeps the stats for the sage chicklets stays busy
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 25, 2009, 02:15:26 AM
Quote from: IkeepScore on March 25, 2009, 01:38:24 AM
Wow whoever keeps the stats for the sage chicklets stays busy

Call me crazy, but is that you?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: IkeepScore on March 25, 2009, 01:17:04 PM
I keep score for my old high school team though!!! I am not pro enough for college
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 26, 2009, 02:47:29 AM
Me too.  It would probably take just as long to fix my mistakes as it does to play the game.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: IkeepScore on March 26, 2009, 12:47:39 PM
Its hard enough watching the SCIAC game with some of those girls in the stands
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 26, 2009, 01:06:15 PM
Quote from: IkeepScore on March 26, 2009, 12:47:39 PM
Its hard enough watching the SCIAC game with some of those girls in the stands

Try being in charge of coaching a team with all those girls in the stands. I found it very hard to pay attention at times.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on March 26, 2009, 01:39:34 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 26, 2009, 01:06:15 PM
Quote from: IkeepScore on March 26, 2009, 12:47:39 PM
Its hard enough watching the SCIAC game with some of those girls in the stands

Try being in charge of coaching a team with all those girls in the stands. I found it very hard to pay attention at times.
I have seen SCIAC girls.  You guys don't have the eyesight for scoring. 8)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on March 27, 2009, 11:19:04 PM
Hens came out swinging today against Redlands, scoring 6 in the first off nicholson and knocking him out in the fifth after giving up 11. Hens entered the bottom of the 9th up 21-4 before giving up 7 runs to make the final 21-11. Everyone in the lineup contributed, and Hedman didn't even get a hit until the Hens had 13 runs. Colvin looked great on the mound too, giving up 4 runs two earned in 7 innings. Tomorrow will be interesting to see how redlands rebounds and if the hens can keep the bats hot.
any updates on how the rest of the sciac fared today?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: C.M.Stag on March 27, 2009, 11:43:44 PM
CMS drops one to Chapman today, 14-10. Kitchens left the game in the 2nd due to an injury, but the Panthers had already built a 6-0 lead at that point.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: goodolsciac on March 28, 2009, 12:23:17 AM
La Verne 14 Whittier 5


Cal Lu      6  Oxy       5
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 28, 2009, 05:44:42 PM
Quote from: C.M.Stag on March 27, 2009, 11:43:44 PM
CMS drops one to Chapman today, 14-10. Kitchens left the game in the 2nd due to an injury, but the Panthers had already built a 6-0 lead at that point.

Can anyone elaborate on Kitchens' injury/status?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on March 28, 2009, 08:04:37 PM
News from P-P-Redlands doubleheader today:
Game 1- PP down 2-1 in the sixth, after few home runs and clutch hitting Hens pull out an 11-2 win. Complete game win for Tom Church, Nick Frederick hits 2 HR's.
Game 2- PP adds runs here and there all game long, Mandelblatt great on the hill- seven scoreless and only about 75 pitches. Hens win 9-0. Hedman 3 run HR (that's 15 now).

Redlands did not look quite as good as they had been hyped up to be... didn't show much discipline at the plate. However, the Hens looked great. Hit the ball well all three games and the starting pitching was very impressive. Redlands needs to bounce back from a tough weekend in which they gave up 41 runs and lost by at least 9 all three games. Any body get a chance to see the other sciac games today?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DIIIBASEBALLFAN on March 28, 2009, 10:34:24 PM
Chapman 14 Claremont 10     
Chapman 10 Claremont   6 
Chapman   9 Claremont   3

http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/stats/cu-cms.htm
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/stats/cms-cu1.htm
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/stats/cms-cu2.htm
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on March 29, 2009, 04:54:50 PM
SCIAC baseball items from the San Bernardino Sun (http://www.sbsun.com/sports/ci_12022663):

QuoteSCIAC baseball

Pomona-Pitzer took sole possession of first place in the SCIAC with 11-2 and 9-0 wins over Redlands.

The Sagehens (22-3, 9-0) are one game ahead of Cal Lutheran (20-5, 8-1), which swept Occidental.

Left fielder Nick Frederick led a 14-hit attack in the opener, going 3-for-5 with six RBIs, including two home runs. Tom Church (5-1) went the distance, giving up just seven hits and two runs.

Teddy Bingham had six hits on the day, four of those in the second game. Senior first baseman Drew Hedman contributed three hits.

...

La Verne baseball

The suddenly surging Leopards won their ninth and 10th consecutive games, beating Whittier 13-11 and 10-3.

The opener took 11 innings, with the Leopards (13-10, 3-6) getting a run on an error and an insurance run on a sacrifice fly by Victor Pineda.

Jon-Michael Hattabaugh had five hits in the doubleheader.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: IkeepScore on March 30, 2009, 05:25:37 PM
Despite the scores of the REDLANDS VS PP games, I heard the Bulldoggies put bat on ball real well...SCIAC should watch out for them
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 31, 2009, 12:39:39 AM
Updated West Region standings as of 3/30/09.  A little bit of movement this weekend...

1.  Pomona-Pitzer    .933%
2.  Cal Lutheran       .889%
3.  Linfield                .857%
4.  George Fox         .824%
5.  UT Tyler               .808%
6.  Chapman             .722%
7.  Pacific Lutheran   .696%
8.  Redlands              .632%


Chapman continues to climb but there was mention the other day that Kitchens left his start early due to injury.  No idea what happened but that could be a bad break for Chapman.
Linfield and Pomona are on fire!  Both teams still have big games left.  Pomona has Cal Lutheran and Linfield still has George Fox.
Cal Lutheran keeps putting up wins but still has two very big weekends left with Redlands and Pomona.  If they slip up this weekend with Redlands it could mean trouble.
UT Tyler is ranked very high but I still think they have things to prove.  They are racking up wins, but a loss here and there could hurt them.
PLU must keep winning every game. 
Redlands has a make or break weekend ahead with Cal Lutheran.  Losing this series spells doom for Redlands.

The West has some very good teams this year.  I think the regional breaks down with 2 from the SCIAC, 2 from the NWC, Chapman and UT Tyler.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sagehenalum47 on March 31, 2009, 12:42:38 AM
thanks for the update oxybob,
     it looks like the hens are really clicking! according to my calculations thats 8 HRs for frederick now. i hear he spent his winter break hitting and working out with his second cousin ryan zimmerman, and it really seems like it has paid off! hope those hens keep up the hard work! this hedman-frederick combo is scary.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on March 31, 2009, 03:54:51 AM
alum- you're right about that hedman-frederick combo, pretty scary! and especially now that mandelblatt seems to be swinging again!
side note, i had heard about frederick having some relation to zimmerman, but i wasn't sure it what it was. In any case that's quite an opportunity, imagine working out with a big leaguer!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: C.M.Stag on April 02, 2009, 01:35:13 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 28, 2009, 05:44:42 PM
Can anyone elaborate on Kitchens' injury/status?

From what I saw, the trainer looked like he was checking out Kitchen's shoulder. His velocity was way down, and he did not look like the same guy as I have seen in the past. That's the best I can do, I will be interested to see if he makes his next start.

On a different note, some good match-ups in SCIAC this weekend:

Redlands vs. Cal Lu
La Verne vs. Cal Tech
CMS vs. PP

I watched some of the Redlands-PP games last Saturday, and contrary to what someone else said, I thought Redlands looked bad offensively. Maybe it was a bad week, but they are going to have to bounce back in a big way if they want to take some games from a very strong Cal Lu squad.

As always, the 6th Street rivalry will be a fun one. Pomona is red hot and playing great baseball while CMS is coming off its 4th straight loss. The Stags will be a big underdog this weekend, but anything can happen when these two teams play each other.   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on April 02, 2009, 04:29:24 AM
Quote from: C.M.Stag on April 02, 2009, 01:35:13 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 28, 2009, 05:44:42 PM
Can anyone elaborate on Kitchens' injury/status?

From what I saw, the trainer looked like he was checking out Kitchen's shoulder. His velocity was way down, and he did not look like the same guy as I have seen in the past. That's the best I can do, I will be interested to see if he makes his next start.

On a different note, some good match-ups in SCIAC this weekend:

Redlands vs. Cal Lu
La Verne vs. Cal Tech
CMS vs. PP

I watched some of the Redlands-PP games last Saturday, and contrary to what someone else said, I thought Redlands looked bad offensively. Maybe it was a bad week, but they are going to have to bounce back in a big way if they want to take some games from a very strong Cal Lu squad.

As always, the 6th Street rivalry will be a fun one. Pomona is red hot and playing great baseball while CMS is coming off its 4th straight loss. The Stags will be a big underdog this weekend, but anything can happen when these two teams play each other.  

great point stag... whenever these two teams match up its a slug fest. despte PP being the better team last year, CMS almost took 2 of 3. You never know what could happen between these two rivals, and as such I'm quite excited to get a front row view of these games. (i'll try to update as much as possible, but i may be too excited to get online!). all i can hope for is a fun, well-played series!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 03, 2009, 09:08:18 PM
Cal Lu dropped by Redlands 5-3.  It was 3-2 Redlands going into the 9th but they got 2 very big runs to seal the deal.  Not a good loss by CLU.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: beachlover on April 03, 2009, 09:58:58 PM
Nicholson recovers from something of a mess last week against P/P to pitch 7 solid today against Cal Lu, handful of hits, no runs.  Cal Lu kicked a few as well. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: C.M.Stag on April 03, 2009, 10:28:59 PM
Great game at Pomona today. Hens led 2-0 going into the 7th, but the Stags rallied and scored four to take the lead. It was short lived; however, as Drew Hedman hit a two run bomb in the 8th to tie the game up. Not really sure why you give that guy a chance to make an impact with his bat that late in the game.

In the 9th, Pomona had the bases loaded no out, but failed to plate a run. Then in the 10th, CMS had the bases loaded 1 out and failed to score a run. With one out in the bottom of the 10th, Pomona catcher Mike Silva hit a walk off solo home run to win the game for the hens 5-4.

I hope tomorrow has two great games like this one. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: beachlover on April 04, 2009, 11:45:34 PM
Cal Lu takes two from the pups.  Redlands kicks it around in the first game and goes down big.  Cal Lu has two very good performances on the mound to stifle pups bats. 

Looks like a two team race at this point in the season.  Cal Lu  vs P/P.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 05, 2009, 12:05:26 AM
Cal Lutheran gets 2 complete game shutouts today at Redlands.  Mike Rowe and Chase Tigert give up a total of 9 hits today, 8 of them singles, and a combined 14 K's.  Pretty impressive day by the 2 starters for the Kingsmen.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 05, 2009, 12:10:05 AM
Pomona gets the sweep over Claremont but they gave up 22 runs in the 3 games.  I think we will find out is Pomona is for real in their last 9 games of the season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on April 05, 2009, 01:17:32 PM
a couple notes on the PP-CMS series:
The huge difference in the series, in all three games, was the bullpen work. PP's bullpen- 12 1/3 innings, 0 runs. CMS pen- 8 1/3 innings, 22 runs.
Stags starting pitching was surprisingly decent. The freshman who through the first game was solid, certainly better than his ERA would indicate and Max Rose looked pretty darn good. The only reason he came out was the fact that the Hens worked deep in to counts and ran up his pitch total, despite not executing well with runners in scoring position.
In any case, I think PP showed they are for real from the nature of their victories. They won the first game in 10 innings, were down 5-0 in the sixth of the second game before unloading for a 10 run 7th, and were down 8-1 in the second inning of the third game before chipping away and then putting up 8 runs in the 7th. Most of their games this year had been blowouts and it was great to see them battle from behind to win, it showed a lot of character.

Finally, a note on CMS. The team is quite talented, but I was taken aback at the lack of respect their players showed for their opponents, fans, umpires, coaches, and the game in general. Perhaps it was a certain few individuals (there were certainly a number of players who displayed good sportsmanship... I was quite impressed with Nishioka and Blomberg who seem to be playing baseball for all the right reasons) but I witnessed players yelling obscenities at teammates, opposing players, fans, and umpires. One individual (three guesses who...) took it upon himself to loudly complain to the umpires on balls and strikes (something that shouldn't be argued, and if its is only by coaches) while pitching, hitting, and even running the bases. At one point, he dropped his bat in the batter's box and put his hands on his hips in disapproval (after a called strike 2 no less). A father mentioned that this player was yelling at him while playing defense and this same individual was stealing bases on his own when down 5 runs in the ninth as well. Call me old-fashioned, but I've been watching baseball for a long time and I've never seen such blatant disrespect for the game and it made me wonder where this game is heading. I understand the rivalry is an intense one, and there were certainly PP players whose actions weren't exactly in the spirit of the game, but I have to wonder what sort of coaching is going on at CMS that allows for such behavior.
Maybe I'm just an outsider who doesn't understand what's going on in that dugout and maybe it was just the heat of the rivalry that brought out the worst in a few players, but I couldn't help but comment on something that bothered me as much as CMS's behavior did.
Sorry for the rant!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on April 05, 2009, 01:29:35 PM
From the "Local college roundup" article in the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin (http://www.dailybulletin.com/ci_12076043):

QuoteSCIAC baseball

No. 11 Pomona-Pitzer swept rival Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 13-6 and 12-8 to remain two games ahead of Cal Lutheran in the SCIAC. The Sagehens (25-3, 12-0) came from 5-1 down in the first game and 8-1 down in the second. The highlight was a grand slam home run by freshman James Campbell in the first game.

Redlands baseball

The Bulldogs managed just nine hits and were shutout in both ends of a doubleheader against Cal Lutheran, falling 11-0 and 2-0 in SCIAC play. It makes five losses in the last six games for the reeling Bulldogs (16-11, 7-5). Michael Lessig was the tough-luck loser in the second game. He gave up two runs in the first inning and shut down the Kingsmen for the next six, exiting with his team down 2-0. He scattered six hits and struck out nine.

La Verne baseball

The Leopards (16-10, 6-6) rolled to their 12th and 13th straight wins, cruising past Caltech 17-0 and 18-2 at Ben Hines Field in SCIAC play. The win in the first game marked the 200th career win for coach Scott Winterburn, who is in his ninth season. Mike Surina went 6-for-9 on the day with five RBI and three runs scored. Mark Larini also had six hits.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CMSfan on April 07, 2009, 03:53:28 AM
Quote from: P-P Fan on April 05, 2009, 01:17:32 PM
The huge difference in the series, in all three games, was the bullpen work. PP's bullpen- 12 1/3 innings, 0 runs. CMS pen- 8 1/3 innings, 22 runs.

True.  The CMS bullpen has a boatload of arms but has lacked consistency.  It's too bad because it's a talented team that could have done more damage in SCIAC.  But I've always thought that D3 baseball games more often than not are won and lost in the bullpen and this series was certainly no exception.

Quote from: P-P Fan on April 05, 2009, 01:17:32 PM
Sorry for the rant!

No need to apologize, but I saw most of the series and can't say I agree with your assessment.  Probably just comes down to rooting for different teams.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on April 07, 2009, 10:26:11 AM
ULV item from the "Campus Life 5.0" column in the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin (http://www.dailybulletin.com/ci_12087506):

Quote
If only the University of La Verne baseball team had gotten off to a better start.

The Leopards (16-10, 6-6) swept lowly Caltech over the weekend to extend their win streak to 13 games. The problem was an 0-6 start in SCIAC with sweeps at the hands of Cal Lutheran and Redlands.

Coach Scott Winterburn's team has worked its way up to fourth but will be hard-pressed to overtake frontrunner Pomona-Pitzer (25-3, 12-0) with nine conference games left to play. The Leopards also are four games behind second-place Cal Lutheran and one behind Redlands.

The good news is the Leopards play the Sagehens the last weekend of the season and can gain ground with head-to-head wins.

Even if the Leopards don't chase down Pitzer, they might have an outside shot at an at-large berth in the West Regional if they can finish with a solid record. They will have a chance for some quality wins this week as they travel to Cal State East Bay for a nonconference series against a team that is a perennial regional contender.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 07, 2009, 02:32:48 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on April 07, 2009, 10:26:11 AM
ULV item from the "Campus Life 5.0" column in the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin (http://www.dailybulletin.com/ci_12087506):

Quote
If only the University of La Verne baseball team had gotten off to a better start.

The Leopards (16-10, 6-6) swept lowly Caltech over the weekend to extend their win streak to 13 games. The problem was an 0-6 start in SCIAC with sweeps at the hands of Cal Lutheran and Redlands.

Coach Scott Winterburn's team has worked its way up to fourth but will be hard-pressed to overtake frontrunner Pomona-Pitzer (25-3, 12-0) with nine conference games left to play. The Leopards also are four games behind second-place Cal Lutheran and one behind Redlands.

The good news is the Leopards play the Sagehens the last weekend of the season and can gain ground with head-to-head wins.

Even if the Leopards don't chase down Pitzer, they might have an outside shot at an at-large berth in the West Regional if they can finish with a solid record. They will have a chance for some quality wins this week as they travel to Cal State East Bay for a nonconference series against a team that is a perennial regional contender.

OxyBob

I think this is a pipe dream for ULV.  They can not lose any more games and need everyone in front of them to colapse.  Not going to happen.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 10, 2009, 09:32:50 PM
Cal Lu takes 2 of 3 from Menlo.  Tough loss in game 3 of the series.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 10, 2009, 10:14:13 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 10, 2009, 09:32:50 PM
Cal Lu takes 2 of 3 from Menlo.  Tough loss in game 3 of the series.
That may hurt when it comes to Pool C!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 10, 2009, 11:03:18 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 10, 2009, 10:14:13 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 10, 2009, 09:32:50 PM
Cal Lu takes 2 of 3 from Menlo.  Tough loss in game 3 of the series.
That may hurt when it comes to Pool C!

I dont know Ralph, I think CLU is still in very good position to get a Pool C bid.  They still have one of the top 6 in-region winning percentages in the West.  The big series will be with Pomona in a few weeks!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on April 11, 2009, 11:45:47 PM
Hens take both from Whittier today as well as the game yesterday. Score a total of 36 runs as the offense keeps on rolling. Bullpen still looking great, Hedman puts out #'s 18 and 19. Hens have put themselves in a great position going in to the home stretch, but as last year showed us, anything can happen. This weekend against chapman, a team playing with desperation, should be quite interesting. Hope Kitchens is healthy (well... kind of...) and the series is well played.

Also congrats to Oxy on getting that first SCIAC win! No sarcasm- they're not a bad team they just hadn't been catching any breaks. Good to see them get that win, maybe they can finish strong.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on April 12, 2009, 12:17:29 PM
Quote from: P-P Fan on April 11, 2009, 11:45:47 PM
Also congrats to Oxy on getting that first SCIAC win! No sarcasm- they're not a bad team they just hadn't been catching any breaks. Good to see them get that win, maybe they can finish strong.
Oxy and La Verne play next.

What happened to Browneagle64?  He hasn't logged on since March 10.  Did he give us up for Lent?  He follows both teams.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: beachlover on April 13, 2009, 10:10:17 PM
I know we talk about this every year -- well at least the 3 years or so I've been reading/posting to this board --- but I'll ask it again.  Why is Cal Tech in the SCIAC? 

Yes, it's admirable that they want scholars and athletic participation.  The legacy of their teams is noteworthy.   I think all of us would agree that participating in a team sport teaches a series of lessons and skills that cannot be learned in other venues.  I'm all for Cal Tech sponsoring a team and having that team compete on the field.

But, the reality is... the do NOT compete in the SCIAC. 

They barely compete against other similar programs.   Just took a quick glance at the CalTech roster, they have about 20 guys playing with 6 or so listed as "P" and usually something else.  The don't have enough guys on the roster, especially pitching, to play a 3 game Friday/Saturday schedule. 

It hurts all of the teams in the SCIAC because every other conference just automatically substracts 3 games from the win column, when these teams could play better / more competitive teams to improve their overall rankings over the weekend when they are playing Cal Tech.  It also taints the stats in the SCIAC, even when coaches play their benches for the 3 games because I've got to think outside of the conference, most folks aren't analyzing the box score from the Cal Tech games.

So, remind me, why is Cal Tech in the SCIAC?   ???
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DIIIBASEBALLFAN on April 13, 2009, 10:47:56 PM
Would Cal Tech be better suited to play a free lance independent schedule
or going to club baseball
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on April 13, 2009, 11:35:37 PM
Quote from: beachlover on April 13, 2009, 10:10:17 PM
I know we talk about this every year -- well at least the 3 years or so I've been reading/posting to this board --- but I'll ask it again.  Why is Cal Tech in the SCIAC? 

Yes, it's admirable that they want scholars and athletic participation.  The legacy of their teams is noteworthy.   I think all of us would agree that participating in a team sport teaches a series of lessons and skills that cannot be learned in other venues.  I'm all for Cal Tech sponsoring a team and having that team compete on the field.

But, the reality is... the do NOT compete in the SCIAC. 

They barely compete against other similar programs.   Just took a quick glance at the CalTech roster, they have about 20 guys playing with 6 or so listed as "P" and usually something else.  The don't have enough guys on the roster, especially pitching, to play a 3 game Friday/Saturday schedule. 

It hurts all of the teams in the SCIAC because every other conference just automatically substracts 3 games from the win column, when these teams could play better / more competitive teams to improve their overall rankings over the weekend when they are playing Cal Tech.  It also taints the stats in the SCIAC, even when coaches play their benches for the 3 games because I've got to think outside of the conference, most folks aren't analyzing the box score from the Cal Tech games.

So, remind me, why is Cal Tech in the SCIAC?   ???


Watching the games against Cal Tech, I agree that they should not be in SCIAC. From what I can tell, this is their best team in years and they are still nowhere near competing with even the cellar-dwelling teams of SCIAC.  Nobody benefits from this situation, and there has to be some alternative league they can play in.
If they do leave SCIAC though, there are a few questions/problems. Where would they go? Who would play them? Would all of their athletic teams leave the SCIAC (most are terrible, but soccer and girls BB have pulled some upsets)? Would the SCIAC try to adopt another team (Chapman?) or expand the schedule? Lot's of logistical issues to deal with, but I agree that Cal Tech baseball doesn't belong in the SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 15, 2009, 07:23:12 PM

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Have you seen OXY play? Wouldn't be surprised if Tech takes one from the kitty cats next year.
COMPETE.
[/quote]

Not too sure if that is the right way to start off your posting career.  I hope for your sake that you ar enot a player.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on April 15, 2009, 07:58:09 PM
Quote from: COMPETE on April 15, 2009, 03:46:11 PM
Have you seen OXY play? Wouldn't be surprised if Tech takes one from the kitty cats next year.

Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 15, 2009, 07:23:12 PM
Not too sure if that is the right way to start off your posting career.  I hope for your sake that you ar enot a player.

COMPETE's email address is madmartinmiggs9@aol.com.

Here is an entry by "Martin Miggs" on unigo.com:

QuoteMartin Miggs
Hometown: Claremont California
Major: Government
Class Year: Sophomore
Extracurriculars: Varsity baseball

http://www.unigo.com/pomona_college/reviews/8824

Does any SCIAC team have a sophomore from Claremont who plays varsity baseball and perhaps wears No. 9?

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on April 15, 2009, 08:17:51 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on April 15, 2009, 07:58:09 PM
Quote from: COMPETE on April 15, 2009, 03:46:11 PM
Have you seen OXY play? Wouldn't be surprised if Tech takes one from the kitty cats next year.

Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 15, 2009, 07:23:12 PM
Not too sure if that is the right way to start off your posting career.  I hope for your sake that you ar enot a player.

COMPETE's email address is madmartinmiggs9@aol.com.

Here is an entry by "Martin Miggs" on unigo.com:

QuoteMartin Miggs
Hometown: Claremont California
Major: Government
Class Year: Sophomore
Extracurriculars: Varsity baseball

http://www.unigo.com/pomona_college/reviews/8824

Does any SCIAC team have a sophomore from Claremont who plays varsity baseball and perhaps wears No. 9?

OxyBob
I did not know about unigo, but I had already gone through all the SCIAC teams and Chapman and didn't find anything.  I could have missed something, though. :o

I did find this after reading your post.
Quote
#09 - Teddy Bingham
Position: IF
Year: Sophomore
Hometown: Claremont, CA
High School: Claremont High School
College: Pomona College

I hesitated, but gave him a +k for making his first post.

More about Martin Miggs.

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Martin_Miggs

I guess we should have known. ::)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 15, 2009, 10:00:45 PM
Man you guys are good!!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: COMPETE on April 15, 2009, 10:17:51 PM
You guys are unreal. Actually, a little scary. What made you look on unigo.com????
I will never again attempt to troll the d3 baseball boards.
Good day sirs.

*by the way, i have no doubt that OXY will destroy tech all three games. i really just wanted to call them kitty cats (for comedic purposes only).
and congrats on picking up the harry potter reference too. well played.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on April 15, 2009, 10:19:17 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 15, 2009, 10:00:45 PM
Man you guys are good!!!

BUSTED! ;)

COMPETE:  I don't think your coach would like you posting on this board, but I notice from your profile that your politics are left leaning.  I think you can post on the politics board.  JT likes to spar with all the lefties. :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: IkeepScore on April 16, 2009, 01:32:08 AM
I don't get why we don't all just reveal our identities? What is the point of hiding? 

It's like cheating on your wife and not getting caught....it feels so goood!!!

Just kidding sweet heart

(have to watch my back my wife might be on here)

Got some big match ups this weekend
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on April 16, 2009, 02:30:07 AM
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.claremonthighbaseball.com%2Fimages%2Fupload%2Fbingham_teddy.jpg&hash=2b452ff21e0f32a4486fab6b86903b33bd601eff)
QuoteBUSTED!

Quote from: COMPETE on April 15, 2009, 10:17:51 PM
You guys are unreal.

Oxy 1, Pomona 0

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on April 16, 2009, 03:48:47 AM
ok bob, you got the kid. but is it necessary to put his picture up? i think you might be crossing the line a bit... i understand he was a little rude in respect to your team (i agree that players shouldn't be posting here and call outs such as the one he made are unacceptable) but have a little respect. it was obviously light-hearted and i think he got the message (judging by his response post), and im willing to bet he's not the only player who's posted here. everything i have heard tells me he's a good kid... maybe mischievous but a good kid. why stoop to his level?
with all due respect, i think there's a few people who have some growing up to do.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sagehenalum47 on April 16, 2009, 04:38:20 AM
man compete,
           back in my day, that kind of thing would have gotten some high heat in my direction. you better watch your back next oxy series. hope browneagle isn't going to tell his son about this
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: regent1 on April 16, 2009, 10:25:24 AM
I think we're missing a good part of the point.  Compete has rightly pointed out that Cal Tech's team has vastly improved and perhaps doesn't deserve quite the negative postings it is receiving.  And Oxy is the team this season struggling the hardest, and could be a team vulnerable to Cal Tech next year.   Seems as if the people posting think Cal tech is fair game but no one else is.
And I am sure Compete remembers that PP trailed Cal Tech for an inning or two themselves. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: royhobbs on April 16, 2009, 10:41:46 AM
Oxy must be a better team than given credit for, they almost beat Cal Lu twice, and beat CMS! Cal Tech has improved, but they will always struggle. There are real weak teams in almost all of the west conferences, including the ASC and NWC. Oxy's new coach has done a good job, just needs a chance to get a couple recruiting years under his belt.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on April 16, 2009, 01:19:13 PM
Quote from: P-P Fan on April 16, 2009, 03:48:47 AM
ok bob, you got the kid. but is it necessary to put his picture up? i think you might be crossing the line a bit... i understand he was a little rude in respect to your team (i agree that players shouldn't be posting here and call outs such as the one he made are unacceptable) but have a little respect.

That's Bingham's photo when he was at Claremont High. It's posted on the Internet in several places. He's hardly anonymous.

Bingham, a current Pomona player, came on here to bag on a conference opponent. He failed to read and consider the Terms of Service:

Quote8. Are you an active player? We welcome you aboard, but your coach might not be a big fan of it. You might want to check.

Gray Fox and I gave a little right back to him. All in fun.

Quote from: regent1 on April 16, 2009, 10:25:24 AM
Seems as if the people posting think Cal tech is fair game but no one else is.

From time to time posters rail against Caltech's athletic teams. They just don't get what the SCIAC's about.

QuoteThe Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference was formed in 1915 when five Southern California institutions combined for the purpose of promoting and governing competition in intercollegiate sports with the fundamental principle of the conference being to encourage the highest ideals of amateur sports in an environment of high academic standards.

... The five original SCIAC schools are still members: California Institute of Technology, Occidental College, Pomona College, University of Redlands, and Whittier College. ...

The SCIAC wouldn't be the SCIAC without Caltech, which epitomizes the D-III philosophy:

QuoteColleges and universities in Division III place highest priority on the overall quality of the educational experience and on the successful completion of all students' academic programs. They seek to establish and maintain an environment in which a student-athlete's athletics activities are conducted as an integral part of the student-athlete's educational experience, and in which coaches play a significant role as educators. They also seek to establish and maintain an environment that values cultural diversity and gender equity among their student-athletes and athletics staff.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 16, 2009, 09:53:27 PM
Wow, it's been a long time since I have been able to get on this board (or any of the board as of matter of fact) and have to start off by saying, Thank you guys for your post. Although, I haven't been able to post, do to the amount of work within the last month and half, I must thank you guys for keeping me sane.
I wish I could have continued posting like I used to,but, that thing that we call work has been biting my butt.
Looks like the Hens are doing the best to stay atop the SCIAC race and for that they deserve some big props. And yes, Props to all the SCIAC schools that are trying to claw their ways up there too.

Anywhos, just thought I pop in and greet all of you and thank you guys for giving me something to read while at work (i.e. J.P, Bob, Gray, DIIIBBfan, PPfan, and the rest of you that I forgot to mention).

P.s. I had to pop in when I read this though
Quote from: sagehenalum47 on April 16, 2009, 04:38:20 AM
man compete,
           back in my day, that kind of thing would have gotten some high heat in my direction. you better watch your back next oxy series. hope browneagle isn't going to tell his son about this
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Sorry Dude, Im still a young buck and can probably still pass off as a college kid. No kids on my part, but, ill be happy to take him on (lol. Just kidding, no threat, no harm or no ill against this kid who made a mistake)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: beachlover on April 16, 2009, 10:05:53 PM
Well.... don't have anything to say about the young man and comments.....

but I do want to get back to my original question.  Why is Cal Tech still in the SCIAC baseball conference?  Yes, I've read about the founding of the conference and yes, it's great to be well rounded individuals, but.... let me ask this differently --

When was the last time Cal Tech won a SCIAC game?  Not took a lead, not competed, but actually won a game? 

The SCIAC web site only has the past two years of information.  From my limited memory I can't recall them winning a game in the 5 years I've followed the conference but I freely admit I could be wrong.

So, when did they beat a team in their conference?  Because if they can't win one game in multiple years, then I think my question is valid.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 16, 2009, 11:27:00 PM
Quote from: beachlover on April 16, 2009, 10:05:53 PM
Well.... don't have anything to say about the young man and comments.....

but I do want to get back to my original question.  Why is Cal Tech still in the SCIAC baseball conference?  Yes, I've read about the founding of the conference and yes, it's great to be well rounded individuals, but.... let me ask this differently --

When was the last time Cal Tech won a SCIAC game?  Not took a lead, not competed, but actually won a game? 

The SCIAC web site only has the past two years of information.  From my limited memory I can't recall them winning a game in the 5 years I've followed the conference but I freely admit I could be wrong.

So, when did they beat a team in their conference?  Because if they can't win one game in multiple years, then I think my question is valid.

I have been following the SCIAC since 1995, and I know they have not won a game since I started following them.

No matter how much people agree or disagree with the Division III concept, that is the reason Cal Tech is a member of the SCIAC.  Division III is about MORE than just athletics.  I will admit that some schools take athletics more serious, but that does not mean Cal Tech should not be allowed to participate in sports.  It is not about winning and losing, it is about the kids growing as people.  That may sound lame, but if you really sit back and think about it, it makes sense.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on April 17, 2009, 12:15:33 AM
And it makes more sense the older you become. :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 17, 2009, 02:02:53 AM
Quote from: Gray Fox on April 17, 2009, 12:15:33 AM
And it makes more sense the older you become. :)

That it does Gray Fox, that it does.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on April 17, 2009, 11:16:51 AM
Quote from: beachlover on April 16, 2009, 10:05:53 PM
When was the last time Cal Tech won a SCIAC game?  Not took a lead, not competed, but actually won a game? 
...
From my limited memory I can't recall them winning a game in the 5 years I've followed the conference but I freely admit I could be wrong.

5 years? The Caltech basketball team hasn't won a conference game since 1985. There's a movie about it. If you want to know what athletics at Caltech is all about, then rent Quantum Hoops (http://www.quantumhoops.com/index2.htm).

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on April 17, 2009, 11:25:49 PM
PP takes game one of the chapman series, at Chapman, 4-2. Kitchens still injured it seems, Sigman goes the distance for Chapman but must have thrown about 150 pitches. Colvin looked great for Pomona, scattering a few hits but mostly dominating the Chapman hitters. Both offenses looked a little sluggish today, I expect we will see more runs tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 18, 2009, 09:36:25 PM
Pomona sweeps Chapman....does this mean the end of the season for Chapman?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on April 18, 2009, 11:00:17 PM
What a couple of games at alumni field today... I thought the bats would come out, and they certainly did. Despite facing an 8-0 deficit in the second inning of the first game, P-P battled all day, using the long ball to their advantage. Drew Hedman hit 2 (#'s 20 and 21), including a huge three run opposite field homer, Nick Frederick hit a solo shot (#11), as did Zach Mandelblatt, and Teddy Bingham added a grand slam. The Hens ended up pulling out an 18-12 victory.
The second game was a hard fought battle. With PP trailing 3-1, Mike Silva and James Campbell hit back to back solo HR's to tie it up. Chapman retaliated with a couple runs themselves to go up 5-3. The Hens answered in the 7th by putting up 6 runs off of John Semel to take a 9-5 advantage. Semel made up for it though with a huge grand slam in the ninth inning to tie the game at 9. That set the stage for a few PP walks and a hit to load the bases with 2 outs in the bottom of the ninth and a tie score. Defensive replacement Kyle Pokorny (freshman) was forced to come to the plate and battled to a 3-2 count. After fouling off a few pitches, he drew a walk to win the game.
Whew... exciting weekend.
From everything I saw, Chapman is definitely still a dangerous team, but to answer your question JP, I don't think 11 in region losses can get them in to the western regional. The injury to Kitchens is a shame, maybe with him things would have been different.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 18, 2009, 11:20:58 PM
Good sweep by the 'Hens.  I am very curious to see what happens next weekend against Cal Lu.  Pomona's pitching gave up a bunch of runs this weekend, but obviously they hit the crap out of the ball.  Cal Lu has had good pitching all year and pretty good hitting.  I say P-P 2/3 for the weekend.  I think Cal Lu can get one at home.  Either way, good job by P-P.
It is obvious too how much Kitchens means to Chapman.  Without him, they are 4-7.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 19, 2009, 12:53:34 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 18, 2009, 11:20:58 PM
Good sweep by the 'Hens.  I am very curious to see what happens next weekend against Cal Lu.  Pomona's pitching gave up a bunch of runs this weekend, but obviously they hit the crap out of the ball.  Cal Lu has had good pitching all year and pretty good hitting.  I say P-P 2/3 for the weekend.  I think Cal Lu can get one at home.  Either way, good job by P-P.
It is obvious too how much Kitchens means to Chapman.  Without him, they are 4-7.
Not having your #1 throws off all of the pitching match-ups!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseballroxmysox on April 19, 2009, 01:05:08 PM
Quote from: P-P Fan on April 17, 2009, 11:25:49 PM
PP takes game one of the chapman series, at Chapman, 4-2. Kitchens still injured it seems, Sigman goes the distance for Chapman but must have thrown about 150 pitches. Colvin looked great for Pomona, scattering a few hits but mostly dominating the Chapman hitters. Both offenses looked a little sluggish today, I expect we will see more runs tomorrow.


This game could of gone the other way:  a costly error in the 1st inning cost Chapman 2 runs.  Sigman pitched around Hedman.  Colvin did an outstanding job for P-P and might be someone to keep an eye on. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dawgsdad on April 19, 2009, 10:37:46 PM
Any updates from the Chapman/P-P game for today?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 19, 2009, 10:53:37 PM
Quote from: Dawgsdad on April 19, 2009, 10:37:46 PM
Any updates from the Chapman/P-P game for today?

No sunday games in the SCIAC.  P-P swept a 3 game series.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: beachlover on April 19, 2009, 11:57:03 PM
Actually Jack, Whittier and Redlands played a rare sunday doubleheader today and split.  Pups probably playing for 3rd.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 20, 2009, 12:05:22 AM
West Region standings as of 4/19/09

1.  Pomona-Pitzer (23-1)    .958%
2.  Cal Lutheran  (23-4)     .852%
3.  George Fox  (26-5)       .839%
4.  UT Tyler  (29-6)            .829%
5.  Pacific Lutheran (25-8) .758%
     Linfield (25-8)               .758%
7.  Miss. Col. (16-7)           .696%
8.  Hardin Simm. (23-11)   .676%

Chapman is 14-11 (.560%) as a Pool B team.

Big series coming up in the SCIAC and NWC.  Pomona Pitzer and Cal Lutheran have a 3 game series next weekend and George Fox and Linfield have a 4 game set in the NWC. 
It seems that the only hope for Linfield is to sweep George Fox.  3 of 4 will do them no good.  Unless PLU really slips up, I think they are in the Regional.
Cal Lutheran can't afford many more losses.
UT Tyler needs to win the ASC Tourney to keep Cal Lutheran's hopes alive for a pool C.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 20, 2009, 12:05:56 AM
Quote from: beachlover on April 19, 2009, 11:57:03 PM
Actually Jack, Whittier and Redlands played a rare sunday doubleheader today and split.  Pups probably playing for 3rd.

I did see that.  Whats the story behind it?  Travel? 8)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: IkeepScore on April 20, 2009, 03:36:16 PM
Redlands had finals for the seniors last week, they played the single game on Saturday and the double header on Sunday.  (Everything just got pushed back a day)

Two Weeks to go in SCIAC......BATTLE
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on April 21, 2009, 10:40:32 AM
Pomona item from the "Campus Life 5.0" column in the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin (http://www.dailybulletin.com/ci_12188371):

QuoteThe Pomona-Pitzer baseball team continued its dominance over Division III competition by taking three nonconference games from Chapman, which is a bit down this season but traditionally is a national power.

The Sagehens (31-3, 15-0) are ranked in two national polls - third by Collegiate Baseball and eighth by D3baseball.

Coach Frank Pericolosi's team has won every way possible. It came back from an 8-0 deficit in the early Saturday game, then won the nightcap on a bases-loaded walk in the bottom of the ninth.

It trailed in all three games against rival Claremont-Mudd-Scripps but won all three.

The Sagehens have a critical series coming up this weekend against Cal Lutheran (27-7, 13-2), which is ranked 14th and 15th in the same national polls, respectively, and is two games behind Pomona in the SCIAC race.

The teams will play at Pomona at 3 p.m. on Friday, then travel to Thousand Oaks for Saturday's doubleheader against the Kingsmen.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ECSUalum on April 21, 2009, 02:24:46 PM
http://www.muhlenberg.edu/sports/abcapoll.html

POMONA PITZER!!  Congrats
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 21, 2009, 04:56:27 PM
Nice to see Pomona Pitzer in the top spot......now I hope they get swept this weekend ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: royhobbs on April 21, 2009, 06:37:45 PM
JP-Does Cal Lu have a chance of winning two? PP looks like they can score on anyone. Does anyone know why PP's Church didn't pitch vs Chapman? Looks like a must win weekend for the Panthers if there's any hope for a shot at the Regionals, by their record you have to wonder.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on April 21, 2009, 06:53:21 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 21, 2009, 04:56:27 PM
Nice to see Pomona Pitzer in the top spot......now I hope they get swept this weekend ;D
Why the big move up for Southern Maine?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: RSSmith on April 21, 2009, 09:18:58 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on April 21, 2009, 06:53:21 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 21, 2009, 04:56:27 PM
Nice to see Pomona Pitzer in the top spot......now I hope they get swept this weekend ;D
Why the big move up for Southern Maine?

Southern Maine won eight games last week and the this week moved four spots to the top spot in the D3baseball.com/NCBWA Top 25. The Huskies garnered 10 first-place votes and 584 total points.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 22, 2009, 02:18:30 AM
Quote from: royhobbs on April 21, 2009, 06:37:45 PM
JP-Does Cal Lu have a chance of winning two? PP looks like they can score on anyone. Does anyone know why PP's Church didn't pitch vs Chapman? Looks like a must win weekend for the Panthers if there's any hope for a shot at the Regionals, by their record you have to wonder.

That is a great question.  Cal Lu has had some pretty lights out ptching this year but P-P has hit the snot out of the ball.  I really don't know of any good pitching that P-P has faced this year, except Nicolson from Redlands and they crushed him.  I think Gelber from Cal Lu throwing at P-P (my assumption) is good since he is a lefty.  Rowe and Tigert have been a great duo in double headers (see Redlands series).  I do think they can win 2, but I think the entire series will be high scoring.  P-P hasn't really impressed me with their pitching so who knows.  Hope it is a good series!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: oldcat on April 22, 2009, 04:30:13 AM
Quote from: royhobbs on April 21, 2009, 06:37:45 PM
JP-Does Cal Lu have a chance of winning two? PP looks like they can score on anyone. Does anyone know why PP's Church didn't pitch vs Chapman? Looks like a must win weekend for the Panthers if there's any hope for a shot at the Regionals, by their record you have to wonder.

I talked to a Pomona player after the P-P and Chapman series and asked why Church didn't pitch, and he said that his arm was bugging him a little so he was going to take a week off. I believe that he will pitch this upcoming weekend, or at least I hope he does. It is going to be a great series, wish I could watch it.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on April 22, 2009, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 22, 2009, 02:18:30 AM
I do think they can win 2, but I think the entire series will be high scoring.  P-P hasn't really impressed me with their pitching so who knows.

Team ERA as of April 19:

Cal Lutheran 3.24, 8th NCAA
Pomona 3.92, 30th NCAA

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 22, 2009, 12:41:06 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on April 22, 2009, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 22, 2009, 02:18:30 AM
I do think they can win 2, but I think the entire series will be high scoring.  P-P hasn't really impressed me with their pitching so who knows.

Team ERA as of April 19:

Cal Lutheran 3.24, 8th NCAA
Pomona 3.92, 30th NCAA

OxyBob

I know, I probably sound like an idiot saying P-P's pitching hasnt impressed me but they gave up 18 runs in 3 games with Claremont, 23 in 3 games with Chapman, and 11 in game one against Redlands.  Obviously giving up that many runs doesn't matter when you are scoring as many as they are.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on April 22, 2009, 01:44:12 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 22, 2009, 12:41:06 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on April 22, 2009, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 22, 2009, 02:18:30 AM
I do think they can win 2, but I think the entire series will be high scoring.  P-P hasn't really impressed me with their pitching so who knows.

Team ERA as of April 19:

Cal Lutheran 3.24, 8th NCAA
Pomona 3.92, 30th NCAA

OxyBob

I know, I probably sound like an idiot saying P-P's pitching hasnt impressed me but they gave up 18 runs in 3 games with Claremont, 23 in 3 games with Chapman, and 11 in game one against Redlands.  Obviously giving up that many runs doesn't matter when you are scoring as many as they are.

There's no doubt that the Hens have been giving up some runs as of late... however 7 of the 11 in the redlands game were given up in the ninth inning by a freshman who is unlikely to pitch again. As for the CMS games, Mandelblatt was a bit shaky, but everyone else did pretty well- especially the bullpen (0 runs in over 12 innings). The Chapman series again featured a poor start by Mandel, and Church was out.

There's no question though that PP has generally had some trouble keeping strong offenses at bay. I'm not sure how Cal Lu stacks up to CMS and Chapman, but I think the Hens' staff should be fine this weekend.

Side Note- I don't want to jinx him... but Hedman has a legit shot at a D3 triple crown. Does anybody know if that's happened before or if anyone's come close in recent memory?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 22, 2009, 02:33:49 PM
Quote from: P-P Fan on April 22, 2009, 01:44:12 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 22, 2009, 12:41:06 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on April 22, 2009, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 22, 2009, 02:18:30 AM
I do think they can win 2, but I think the entire series will be high scoring.  P-P hasn't really impressed me with their pitching so who knows.

Team ERA as of April 19:

Cal Lutheran 3.24, 8th NCAA
Pomona 3.92, 30th NCAA

OxyBob

I know, I probably sound like an idiot saying P-P's pitching hasnt impressed me but they gave up 18 runs in 3 games with Claremont, 23 in 3 games with Chapman, and 11 in game one against Redlands.  Obviously giving up that many runs doesn't matter when you are scoring as many as they are.

There's no doubt that the Hens have been giving up some runs as of late... however 7 of the 11 in the redlands game were given up in the ninth inning by a freshman who is unlikely to pitch again. As for the CMS games, Mandelblatt was a bit shaky, but everyone else did pretty well- especially the bullpen (0 runs in over 12 innings). The Chapman series again featured a poor start by Mandel, and Church was out.

There's no question though that PP has generally had some trouble keeping strong offenses at bay. I'm not sure how Cal Lu stacks up to CMS and Chapman, but I think the Hens' staff should be fine this weekend.

Side Note- I don't want to jinx him... but Hedman has a legit shot at a D3 triple crown. Does anybody know if that's happened before or if anyone's come close in recent memory?

I am not certain, but I think that Oshkosh's Tim Jorgensen may have been close in 1995. I know he lead the nation in HRs and RBIs, but may have lost the AVG portion to a teammate, Jeff Zappa.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on April 22, 2009, 02:48:51 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 22, 2009, 02:33:49 PM

I am not certain, but I think that Oshkosh's Tim Jorgensen may have been close in 1995. I know he lead the nation in HRs and RBIs, but may have lost the AVG portion to a teammate, Jeff Zappa.
I just checked the NCAA archives for 95 and it looks Jorgenson ended up 4th in average... still quite impressive. Especially given the outrageous number of home runs and RBI's he had. I think I'm gonna sift through the archives and see if anyone has done it/come close since 89 (when the archives start).
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 22, 2009, 02:54:06 PM
Quote from: P-P Fan on April 22, 2009, 02:48:51 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 22, 2009, 02:33:49 PM

I am not certain, but I think that Oshkosh's Tim Jorgensen may have been close in 1995. I know he lead the nation in HRs and RBIs, but may have lost the AVG portion to a teammate, Jeff Zappa.
I just checked the NCAA archives for 95 and it looks Jorgenson ended up 4th in average... still quite impressive. Especially given the outrageous number of home runs and RBI's he had. I think I'm gonna sift through the archives and see if anyone has done it/come close since 89 (when the archives start).
If TJ didn't do it, I'll buy you a brat and soda at the World Series if anyone has.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 22, 2009, 02:57:03 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 22, 2009, 02:54:06 PM
Quote from: P-P Fan on April 22, 2009, 02:48:51 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 22, 2009, 02:33:49 PM

I am not certain, but I think that Oshkosh's Tim Jorgensen may have been close in 1995. I know he lead the nation in HRs and RBIs, but may have lost the AVG portion to a teammate, Jeff Zappa.
I just checked the NCAA archives for 95 and it looks Jorgenson ended up 4th in average... still quite impressive. Especially given the outrageous number of home runs and RBI's he had. I think I'm gonna sift through the archives and see if anyone has done it/come close since 89 (when the archives start).
If TJ didn't do it, I'll buy you a brat and soda at the World Series if anyone has.

WOW! I would do most things for a brat... I think you are right though. That guy was the best there was at the plate.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on April 22, 2009, 03:20:26 PM
Just went through the archives (admittedly rather quickly) and couldn't find anyone that did it. Here are some guys that came close though:
1990- Brian Mercado, ECSU
1st HR's, 1st RBI's, 11th BA
1998- Matt Daly, Ferrum
1st HR's, 1st RBI's, 6th BA
2001- Steve Osborne, St Joe's (ME)
1st HR's, 2nd RBI's, 8th BA
2002- Toddy Meyer, Alvernia
1st HR's, 1st RBI's, 2nd BA
also, last year Derek David of McMurray led the nation in HR's and RBI's but finished 49th in BA.
So it hasn't been done in D3 as far back as the records go, but that's only 1989.

I hope Hedman doesn't come on these message boards...  :-\
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 22, 2009, 03:40:12 PM
1996- Oshkosh's Tim Jorgensen was 1st in HRs, 1St in RBI and 4th in AVG. (He might be the closest).
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: IkeepScore on April 22, 2009, 04:27:09 PM
FYI....Big match up for the beavers this weekend Cal Tech plays La Sierra...should be fun!!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on April 22, 2009, 05:15:03 PM
Quote from: IkeepScore on April 22, 2009, 04:27:09 PM
FYI....Big match up for the beavers this weekend Cal Tech plays La Sierra...should be fun!!!
La Sierra has two wins this year.  One is over Principia and the other is a 12-5 victory over the Beavers in February.  Cal Tach will be out for revenge.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: royhobbs on April 22, 2009, 05:18:09 PM
Can Cal Tech break their losing streak?  It would be too bad for LaSierra, but front page news for Cal Tech! They might invent a new way to celebrate! It looks like those two teams combined were six of Cal Lu's victories. That can't help the strength of schedule. Cal Lu's ERA maybe going up this weekend against PP! Hope there's a lot of runs scored this weekend by both PP and CLU. Hedman and Hartman both have great numbers this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 22, 2009, 05:48:16 PM
Quote from: royhobbs on April 22, 2009, 05:18:09 PM
Can Cal Tech break their losing streak?  It would be too bad for LaSierra, but front page news for Cal Tech! They might invent a new way to celebrate! It looks like those two teams combined were six of Cal Lu's victories. That can't help the strength of schedule. Cal Lu's ERA maybe going up this weekend against PP! Hope there's a lot of runs scored this weekend by both PP and CLU. Hedman and Hartman both have great numbers this year.

CLU's SOS did take a hit by playing both CIT and La Sierra.  There is no getting around playing Cal Tech, and 3 games with La Sierra is 3 wins.  Oh well.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on April 22, 2009, 06:01:17 PM
The question is, will winless CalTech go all out to beat La Sierra, or will they hold something back to try for a SCIAC win over Oxy in the last week?  Can they do both? :D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseballroxmysox on April 23, 2009, 08:44:15 PM
Big weekend for PP and Cal Lu. 

Words of advise for Cal Lu when they play @ PP's field:  PP has several lefties and they take FULL advantage of the SHORT Rt field fence.  Cal Lu needs to pitch outside to these guys and help hold Hedman to a minimum.

PP's pitchers stay inside on Rt handed batters, & outside on lefties so they can't take advantage of the SHORT fence.  They even have the first baseman playing way over towards second since they don't give the left side of the plate up.

Good Luck Guys!!

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on April 23, 2009, 09:57:35 PM
Quote from: baseballroxmysox on April 23, 2009, 08:44:15 PM
Big weekend for PP and Cal Lu. 

Words of advise for Cal Lu when they play @ PP's field:  PP has several lefties and they take FULL advantage of the SHORT Rt field fence.  Cal Lu needs to pitch outside to these guys and help hold Hedman to a minimum.

PP's pitchers stay inside on Rt handed batters, & outside on lefties so they can’t take advantage of the SHORT fence.  They even have the first baseman playing way over towards second since they don’t give the left side of the plate up.

Good Luck Guys!!



I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that Cal Lu's coaching staff and players have probably figured that out already, as they play there every year- including twice last year. Is this a disgruntled/bitter player?

In any case, you are definitely right about the magnitude of the series. I was extremely surprised to see Cal Lu left out of the first regional rankings, given their impressive resume thus far (not too mention a 2-1 record against ranked redlands...). Cal Lu also seems like a team better suited for the playoffs with 3 strong starting pitchers, something redlands lacks.
However, it'll be tough to crack those rankings without an impressive showing this weekend (even assuming they sweep whittier). Im sure both teams will be quite fired up as they fight for the SCIAC crown. And while it seems Cal Lu has more to lose having been left out of the regional rankings, PP is certainly out to avenge last years sweep at the hands of the kingsmen. Should be a fun series, with some quality baseball!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: royhobbs on April 23, 2009, 11:45:26 PM
Hey P-P Fan, CLU's strong starting pitching still have to prove it. Don't they each have 2 wins versus Caltech and LaSierra, and almost dropped two to Oxy. They should be concerned about the 280' short porch at the Homer Dome! PP's got a solid lineup and looks like they play well defensively. Could be another Chapman type series.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 24, 2009, 12:27:06 AM
Quote from: royhobbs on April 23, 2009, 11:45:26 PM
Hey P-P Fan, CLU's strong starting pitching still have to prove it. Don't they each have 2 wins versus Caltech and LaSierra, and almost dropped two to Oxy. They should be concerned about the 280' short porch at the Homer Dome! PP's got a solid lineup and looks like they play well defensively. Could be another Chapman type series.

Yeah, and they are also the guys who beat Chapman, shut out Redlands twice, swept East Bay on the road, beat Hendrix, swept La Verne.....
Comparing games against common opponents is useless in my opinion.  I don't care who they have played, all 3 guys have been good.  Lets see HOW good they are this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: IkeepScore on April 24, 2009, 12:29:41 AM
Someone keep me posted on the PP CLU game, I am not going to be able to make it :( , my wife went into labor tonight

Its a girl
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 24, 2009, 12:42:35 AM
Quote from: IkeepScore on April 24, 2009, 12:29:41 AM
Someone keep me posted on the PP CLU game, I am not going to be able to make it :( , my wife went into labor tonight

Its a girl
Congratulations Dad!

When will you let her start dating?   :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on April 24, 2009, 12:46:09 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 24, 2009, 12:27:06 AM
Quote from: royhobbs on April 23, 2009, 11:45:26 PM
Hey P-P Fan, CLU's strong starting pitching still have to prove it. Don't they each have 2 wins versus Caltech and LaSierra, and almost dropped two to Oxy. They should be concerned about the 280' short porch at the Homer Dome! PP's got a solid lineup and looks like they play well defensively. Could be another Chapman type series.

Yeah, and they are also the guys who beat Chapman, shut out Redlands twice, swept East Bay on the road, beat Hendrix, swept La Verne.....
Comparing games against common opponents is useless in my opinion.  I don't care who they have played, all 3 guys have been good.  Lets see HOW good they are this weekend.
Exactly... Cal Lu has played some decent teams and their starting pitchers' ERA's are all pretty good. Always fun to see good hitting against good pitching. Don't get me wrong, I have plenty of faith in my Hens but I think they have more respect for CLU than they did going in to the series last year (we know how that turned out). I'm just looking forward to some quality baseball!

Also...
Quote from: IkeepScore on April 24, 2009, 12:29:41 AM
Someone keep me posted on the PP CLU game, I am not going to be able to make it :( , my wife went into labor tonight

Its a girl
Congratulations!!! That's a heck of a reason to miss a game! I hope you're posting this on a blackberry from the hospital though!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: nvnorthpaw on April 24, 2009, 01:37:56 AM
I think it is also important to note that CLU's Alex Casillas made his long awaited season debut this past weekend...this gives CLU 4 top-notch starters to go along with Minich and Seldon in the pen...Casillas no-hit Menlo last yr and was the ace of the squad..
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sagehenalum47 on April 24, 2009, 05:35:38 AM
Quote from: IkeepScore on April 24, 2009, 12:29:41 AM
Someone keep me posted on the PP CLU game, I am not going to be able to make it :( , my wife went into labor tonight

Its a girl

Congrats ikeepscore! what are you going to name her?? if i can get out of work early and get down to claremont, I'll update you! Though I suspect you have better things to be doing with you time than read my posts!!  ;) ;D :D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 24, 2009, 08:40:49 AM
Quote from: IkeepScore on April 24, 2009, 12:29:41 AM
Someone keep me posted on the PP CLU game, I am not going to be able to make it :( , my wife went into labor tonight

Its a girl

Priorities!!!! Baseball always comes first. Actually, the day my wife had our daughter is the day that baseball no longer matter on the same level to me. Congrats... your life is about to change for the better. Every day is better than the one before.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on April 24, 2009, 10:39:04 AM
Article about Pomona's Drew Hedman from the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin (http://www.dailybulletin.com/ci_12215377):

QuoteHedman leading charge for Sagehens
Senior first baseman also has eye for draft

Pomona-Pitzer senior Drew Hedman sprints to third base, where Frank Pericolosi is watching from the third-base coach's box. The Sagehens are about to score another run and they're already comfortably ahead.

"When you're done, there's a scout here to see you," the coach says to the player, then turns his attention back to the matter at hand.

It might not have been the best time to mention such a thing, but Pericolosi knows that his player can handle it. He's been doing so all season and it hasn't provided the least bit of distraction.

The Sagehens (31-3, 15-0), winners of 12 straight games, are nearing their second SCIAC title in three years but face a formidable challenge today against Cal Lutheran (27-7, 13-2).

The Sagehens are ranked No. 1 in one national poll and No. 3 in another.

The contribution of Hedman has been a huge factor. The Redding native is hitting a whopping .533, but his other numbers are equally impressive.

He leads the SCIAC in runs scored (53), hits (72), home runs (21), RBIs (70) and total bases (152). His slugging percentage is a robust 1.126 and his on-base percentage is .605. He has more than twice as many walks (23) as strikeouts (9). The 21 home runs are a school single-season record.

Hedman knows he is being watched, but he doesn't let that get in his head.

"It's always been a dream of mine to get drafted, but it doesn't change how I approach the game," he said during a break in a recent practice.
...

Hedman's numbers warrant the attention, but getting drafted isn't a given when you play for a Division III school.

Pericolosi, in his seventh year, has had two players drafted during his tenure - catcher Jose Cortes by the Phillies in 2003 and Jase Turner, Hedman's predecessor at first base, by the Cubs in 2005.

The University of Redlands and University of La Verne have been among the top of the heap in the SCIAC in recent years, but they haven't had much luck in the draft department.

Redlands hasn't had a player drafted in coach Scott Laverty's 10 years, and the last player drafted out of La Verne was pitcher Scott Lindeen, the SCIAC Player of the Year in 2005. He played just one year in the minor leagues and never made it out of rookie ball.

The most prominent player to come out of the SCIAC in the last decade is pitcher Jason Hirsh, who was drafted out of Cal Lutheran in the second round by the Houston Astros in 2003 and made his major- league debut in August of 2006.
...

Pericolosi added that the Diamondbacks have shown the most interest, although that is hardly an indication of what might happen on draft day.

Other teams have turned out too, and they say the evaluation process isn't different than it is for a Division I player.

"You're looking at a lot of things," said one scout who took in the Sagehens against Chapman last weekend.

"Bat speed, mechanics, how frequently the batter is making solid contact - those things don't change.

"About the only thing that is different is that these guys aren't facing as good a pitching game-in, game-out."

Hedman set the stage for his senior season by competing for the Green Bay entry of the prestigious Northwoods League, a summer wood-bat college league that starts in early May and runs through August.

That gave him the chance to play with the top players throughout the country in all divisions and show that he can play without the aid of the aluminum bat. He responded by hitting a respectable .305 in 59 games.

"That was a great opportunity," Hedman said.

"I was happy with how I played there, and it gave me a lot of confidence to hold my own against those guys."

While the draft is a definite goal, Hedman's priority right now is helping the Sagehens to the postseason. Pitzer won the SCIAC and advanced to the West Region in 2007, his sophomore year, but they went just 1-2 in that tournament. They're a more seasoned team this time around, though.

"Most of us have been there before and we know what it takes," he said.

"We're more experienced and we have more depth. Hopefully that will pay off."

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 24, 2009, 09:28:57 PM
Pomona Pitzer 8
Cal Lutheran 7 :-\
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on April 24, 2009, 09:42:55 PM
Looks like a nice win today for P-P.  Look forward to hearing reports from anyone in attendance...win provides a little breathing room, especially after what happened last year.

At 13-3, CLU can't afford to lose either game tomorrow, and even if they win both, would still need help from LaVerne.  Believe that one P-P win tomorrow would give them the league title by virtue of the tiebreaker...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on April 24, 2009, 10:16:08 PM
Well I got my wish and got to see some good baseball today! CLU jumped out to a 3-0 lead in the first after stringing some hits together off colvin. PP bounced right back though, with 5 in the their half of the first. Then both offenses went quiet until CLU hit a solo bomb in the 6th and Hartmann hit a three run homer in the seventh to make it 7-5 CLU. PP bounced back with a single, a double, an rbi groundout, and then a two run homer by Brandon Huerta to take an 8-7 lead in the eighth. Freshman Leo Rosetti got the kingsmen down 1, 2, 3 in the ninth to seal the deal.

Today's game was a hard fought battle by both teams, full of intensity. Hopefully this is an indication of how tomorrow's games will go- especially with the PP win part...  ;D

*Key for the Hens was Colvin going eight innings and keeping the bullpen fresh for tomorrow. Minnich had to throw 3 1/3 for CLU, but they didn't have to bring anyone else in.

La Verne's website shows a 5-4 win... any more info on that game?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 25, 2009, 02:07:02 AM
I just saw the box from the game.  Great job of coming back by Pomona.  Huerta stepped up big with the bomb in the 8th.  Hope there are 2 more great games tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: C.M.Stag on April 25, 2009, 03:11:01 AM
Quote from: P-P Fan on April 24, 2009, 10:16:08 PM
La Verne's website shows a 5-4 win... any more info on that game?

Both teams had some defensive miscues early that cost a few runs. Going into the 7th, the Stags led 4-3. A two-run home run by Victor Pinado gave ULV  the lead for good.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on April 25, 2009, 05:09:36 PM
PP 8 CLU 5.  Able to see some of the game via the live tv broadcast stream, albeit a little choppy.
Hedman hits #22, Brunswick with the win. 

PP is now 17-0 in conference and clinches the SCIAC automatic bid.  Even if CLU wins out and PP loses their last 4, Hens still own the tiebreak.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 25, 2009, 05:56:33 PM
Congrats to Pomona-Pitzer!  I guess the only hope for CLU is to sweep their next 4 and finish 31-9 and hope for a Pool C.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on April 26, 2009, 12:03:58 AM
Eyewitness report from Thousand Oaks:

Pomona 8, Cal Lutheran 5

Caught the first game between the Hens and the Kingsmen. After CLU tied it at 2, Drew Hedman's 3-run bomb made it 6-2, and Pomona led the rest of the way. Some seriously shoddy base running cost CLU a great chance in the 9th.

Congratulations to Pomona.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 26, 2009, 11:04:32 PM
Cal Tech sweeps a double-dip from La Sierra 8)

Does this hurt or help Cal Lu?  A team they swept, got swept....a team they swept, picked up 2 wins.  Does this do anything?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on April 26, 2009, 11:17:05 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 26, 2009, 11:04:32 PM
Cal Tech sweeps a double-dip from La Sierra 8)

Does this hurt or help Cal Lu?  A team they swept, got swept....a team they swept, picked up 2 wins.  Does this do anything?
25 runs in 14 innings.  They should have played the subs. ;)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on April 27, 2009, 12:52:00 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 26, 2009, 11:04:32 PM
Cal Tech sweeps a double-dip from La Sierra 8)

Does this hurt or help Cal Lu?  A team they swept, got swept....a team they swept, picked up 2 wins.  Does this do anything?
First of all, congrats to Cal Tech on a couple of wins!
More to your inquiry though, Jack, it seems like the wins wouldn't really help cal lu at all... since the alternative was la sierra improving its overall record. I'm guessing any improvements to CLU's OWP or OOWP or OOOOWP or whatever acronyms the selection committee considers would be negligible.

Also, side note, interesting find in checking CLU's recaps of the Cal Tech series...
http://www.clusports.com/baseball/news/5512/ (http://www.clusports.com/baseball/news/5512/)

It seems CLU had two players play all nine positions against the Beavers last weekend. Whether Cal Tech should be included in SCIAC or not, does something like this go a little too far? Not much respect for one's opponent...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 27, 2009, 10:43:18 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 26, 2009, 11:04:32 PM
Cal Tech sweeps a double-dip from La Sierra 8)

Does this hurt or help Cal Lu?  A team they swept, got swept....a team they swept, picked up 2 wins.  Does this do anything?

I think only the Cal Tech kids can devise a formula to answer that question... I mean, after they finish writing formulas for NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab and before practice.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on April 27, 2009, 10:48:17 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 27, 2009, 10:43:18 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 26, 2009, 11:04:32 PM
Cal Tech sweeps a double-dip from La Sierra 8)

Does this hurt or help Cal Lu?  A team they swept, got swept....a team they swept, picked up 2 wins.  Does this do anything?

I think only the Cal Tech kids can devise a formula to answer that question... I mean, after they finish writing formulas for NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab and before practice.
I bet they can actually explain the infield fly rule, too. ;)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on April 27, 2009, 11:16:12 AM
Quote from: Gray Fox on April 27, 2009, 10:48:17 AM
I bet they can actually explain the infield fly rule, too.

Not everyone fully understands the nuances of the infield fly rule:

Quote
Montreal Expos defeat San Francisco Giants 6-4
Tuesday, May. 13, 2003

SAN FRANCISCO (Ticker) -- Vladimir Guerrero made Felipe Alou pay for his decision to stick with the rookie.

Guerrero belted a two-run homer off Kurt Ainsworth with two outs in the seventh inning, lifting the Montreal Expos to a 6-4 victory over the San Francisco Giants, who have lost a season-high four straight games.

Ainsworth (3-3) easily retired the first two batters of the seventh before walking Henry Mateo. With Jim Brower warming up in the bullpen, Alou opted to leave his 24-year-old righthander in the game to face one of baseball's best offensive players.

Guerrero, who had two hits in his first three at-bats, crushed Ainsworth's first pitch over the center field wall for his sixth homer and a 6-4 lead. After allowing a single to Wil Cordero, Ainsworth was pulled in favor of Brower.

"He (Guerrero) had a breakthrough night," Expos manager Frank Robinson said. "We knew he would sooner or later. We know he's capable of it. I'm glad he was able to come through tonight."

"The guy hits everything," Ainsworth said. "You can't make any sort of mistake. It's hard to pitch around a guy like that. You either have to go right after him, or walk him intentionally. I let up a little bit and paid for it. He hit the ball hard all night."

Guerrero's hit made a winner of Dan Smith (2-1), who worked 2 2/3 scoreless innings in relief of starter Tomo Ohka.

Scott Stewart gave up one hit in one-plus inning and Rocky Biddle got the final three outs for his 10th save. Stewart allowed a leadoff single in the ninth, but Biddle came on and got Edgardo Alfonzo to bounce into a double play before retiring Neifi Perez to end it.

Montreal matched a franchise record with five double plays.

Ainsworth gave up six runs and nine hits in 6 2/3 innings, walking two and striking out one.

Ohka cruised through the first four innings and had 4-0 lead entering the fifth. But he retired just one batter in the fifth as the Giants rallied to tie the game.

Benito Santiago started the inning with a double and J.T. Snow singled. Alfonzo followed by sending a 2-1 pitch over the left-center field wall for his fourth homer, pulling the Giants within 4-3.

Perez singled and Ainsworth sacrificed before Marquis Grissom reached on an infield hit and Rich Aurilia singled to load the bases and chase Ohka.

Smith entered and got slugger Barry Bonds to pop up in front of the plate. Bonds was called out on the infield fly rule, but the ball dropped in front of the plate.

Expos third baseman Fernando Tatis picked up the ball and stepped on home plate, thinking he had a force play. But Perez jogged half way down the line and walked across the plate with tying run. Montreal players argued the ruling, but manager Frank Robinson emerged from the dugout and chided his players.

"I know the play. The hitter is automatically out," Robinson said. "Perez knew what was going out there more than the rest of us. At least he was running. My players didn't understand the situation. You think you've seen everything, but tonight I saw something new. I hadn't seen it and I hope I never see it again."

"I didn't see the umpire call for the infield fly rule," Perez said. "After I realized he had called it, I tried to act as cool as I could, like I gave up on the play by touching the plate. I heard my third base coach yelling at me to come back. Then I touched home plate because I realized that had to tag me."

Smith took the blame for the play.

"I made a good pitch to Bonds and he hit a mile high pop up," Smith said. "I think it was my fault. I'm supposed to direct traffic. When the ball fell you instinctively want to touch home plate. When the ball fell, I just brain-cramped."

Smith retired Jose Cruz Jr. on a grounder to second base to end the inning.

Entering the game in an 0-for-13 funk, Guerrero delivered a run-scoring single in the opening inning to give the Expos the early lead.

The Expos added three runs in third to take a 4-0 lead. Jose Vidro lofted a sacrifice fly, Cordero stroked an RBI single and an error by center fielder Marquis Grissom allowed another run to score.

Vidro left after the third inning with a right groin strain.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 27, 2009, 06:39:54 PM
Bad news out of the SCIAC today.  I guess it was too good to be true as La Sierra swept Cal Tech, not the other way around as first reported by the SCIAC web-site.  Tough luck for the beavers. :-\
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on April 27, 2009, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 27, 2009, 06:39:54 PM
Bad news out of the SCIAC today.  I guess it was too good to be true as La Sierra swept Cal Tech, not the other way around as first reported by the SCIAC web-site.  Tough luck for the beavers. :-\

Can I give the SCIAC a   -k? :'(
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 27, 2009, 09:46:14 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on April 27, 2009, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 27, 2009, 06:39:54 PM
Bad news out of the SCIAC today.  I guess it was too good to be true as La Sierra swept Cal Tech, not the other way around as first reported by the SCIAC web-site.  Tough luck for the beavers. :-\

Can I give the SCIAC a   -k? :'(

I wish you could.  The SCIAC web-site is pretty bad.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on April 27, 2009, 10:41:04 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 27, 2009, 09:46:14 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on April 27, 2009, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 27, 2009, 06:39:54 PM
Bad news out of the SCIAC today.  I guess it was too good to be true as La Sierra swept Cal Tech, not the other way around as first reported by the SCIAC web-site.  Tough luck for the beavers. :-\

Can I give the SCIAC a   -k? :'(

I wish you could.  The SCIAC web-site is pretty bad.

That's too bad... i thought the beavers had a chance to pull one out against la sierra.
Too true about the SCIAC website... must be run by PP's SID  :-[
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: C.M.Stag on April 27, 2009, 11:38:59 PM
It wasn't the SCIAC website's fault. Caltech's own site had them listed as winning both games when I checked it this morning. Whoops
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on April 28, 2009, 02:40:57 PM
From the "Campus Life 5.0" column in the San Bernardino Sun:

QuoteThe University of Redlands baseball team may be out of the running for a SCIAC championship, but it is in the hunt for an at-large bid to the West Regional.

The Bulldogs (23-14) lost two of three games over the weekend at the Chapman Invitational, with one of those losses to the host team that Redlands beat earlier this season. Now coach Scott Laverty's team needs some help.

Redlands is currently ranked fourth in the West region behind Pomona-Pitzer, Texas-Tyler and Pacific Lutheran. It was ahead of Cal Lutheran, based mainly on strength of schedule, even though the Kingmsen are ahead of Redlands in the SCIAC standings.

Redlands ends the season with a three-game series against Claremont-Mudd-Scripps and needs a sweep to retain any hopes. A few losses by Cal Lutheran, which is playing Whittier, would also help.

"I'm not disappointed with this team. I am more disappointed for them because these guys worked so hard," Laverty said. "We just went through a rough spot with our offense at the wrong time."

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: LA Mike on April 29, 2009, 03:18:38 PM
The quote from the SB Sun should not be a basis for including a third or maybe a fourth place SCIAC team in the playoffs.  They lost to Cal Lu, they lost to Chapman. 

The Bulldogs have not been in any polls for several weeks and have lost way too many games that they should have won.   They were listed on several other regional rankings ahead of Cal Lu, but I do not know how that is justified either.  Start the bulldogging again for 2010 and they should win when they are supposed to.

I do not think that Chapman should be in the 2009 playoffs, especially in the west region (their list of dates on the fence will have a break in it but that is OK).  If you need an extra team in some other place, seed them there......Their historical experience should not be a factor in the selection process.

Pick off move coming.......see you again,   LA Mike
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 29, 2009, 03:38:49 PM
LA Mike- I am trying to figure you out. You are opposed to Chapman being in the tourney... you are against Redlands being ranked ahead of others... You push for the SCIAC #2 to be compared to the NWC #2. In my opinion, you are a Cal Lu fan who is upset that CAL Lu is not ranked regionally. While I understand your frustration (as I had them ranked way ahead of Redlands in the West), but you had a chance to really help yourself out last weekend against Pomona-Pitzer and lost two of three.

If I am reading you wrong, I apologize, but I have a feeling I hit this one right on the head.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: IkeepScore on April 29, 2009, 03:43:42 PM
Ultimately shoulda, woulda, coulda doesn't count in the playoffs, what counts is your pool, your strength of schedule, your win loss record (in region?), and your mental toughness(JOKE!)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: royhobbs on April 29, 2009, 04:00:04 PM
Big Poppa, the issue in the west is that after P-P and maybe UTT (we'll see), the other teams are all just about equal- G Fox, Pac Lu, Cal Lu, Redlands, Chapman, TLU. Most of these teams split with each other, and you are right that Cal Lu had a chance to drive their point home if they could have taken two. What's happening with the NWC?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: LA Mike on April 29, 2009, 06:10:25 PM
Mr. Big Poppa, 

The Mr. is for the respect of your opinions over the past few months.  They have been appropriate and mostly correct, just from my observation!   I am not a disgruntled Cal Lu fan, but one that has seen all the SCIAC teams and Chapman in action all season long.   There have been great games all along the trail, and with one weekend left, we are almost at the second game of a double header for 2009......enough to be fired up about!! 

I look at Redlands and Chapman and they do not play like they are better baseball teams than Cal Lu.  Baseball success is consistancy.  My emphasis in teaching the game was to approach the game with a mindset of consistency.

Correct answers from the players were that they were prepared to play, that their performance on the field was consistent with their practice (Our motto, "you play like you practice"), and that they make their plate appearances worth stepping into the box. 

The depth and preparation of the Cal Lu team this season, has been better than the other two, in my opinion.  They were not better than PP and therefore PP should have beat them, as they did twice.  The west region has a tremendous amount of talented teams.  Cal Lu has been consistent all season.  I just cannot see (performance or otherwise) Redlands ahead of Cal Lu and that even though Chapman has been a consistent cog in the playoff process (last 4 years that I have seen), they are not that same level of team this year.  I have seen Pac Lu, but not GF.  PP beat Pac Lu.   If there are two teams from the ASC, that is also OK.   This weekend will tell the tail !!  Throw their #2 into the mix with the other #2's too for the C Pool selection.........(It comes back to "the win" or "the stumble", see below !!)

I am a SCIAC fan and the top teams battle each year.  The teams that do not stumble or have injuries, are in the hunt at the end of the season.   The conference needs to be supported by the best selections to the playoffs-- always some teams will feel like they were left out, but like you have said, to win the games is to hold your own key chain.  To lose games when you should win them, is not the base path to the second season.  Plaayyyyy Baaallllll ------------

Inning over, too many pitches I think !!  LA Mike

PS-- If you like, show me what you see (and what I do not) in UR and CU-       
          information is key to our speculations !



Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: royhobbs on April 29, 2009, 06:33:54 PM
So LA Mike, what years did you coach at Cal Tech?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: LA Mike on April 30, 2009, 02:26:28 PM
Quote from: royhobbs on April 29, 2009, 06:33:54 PM
So LA Mike, what years did you coach at Cal Tech?

I do not know if you are digging me or offering a compliment.?  I am not Coach John D'Auria (35+ years at Cal Tech).  My son had some interest in applying to Cal Tech and we met with him.  He did not get into the school.  His genuine response was if you get in you will play baseball. 

After being around the team the first year in SCIAC, I wondered what would keep the frustration level down to be the coach that he was.  They play a fair game, but secondary to their purpose at Cal Tech.

An article (Collegiate Baseball) came out last year or the year before that answered alot of questions that were in the back of my mind about him and his program.  You should look it up. 

This year they fielded the best team that I have seen in 5 years-- there have been other comments to this same observation.

Thank you if it was a compliment.   If not research Coach John, he is invested in life, the players and the game, in that order.  I would coach with him in a heart beat.

LA Mike


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 30, 2009, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: LA Mike on April 29, 2009, 06:10:25 PM


PS-- If you like, show me what you see (and what I do not) in UR and CU-       
          information is key to our speculations !





LA Mike- I agree with you about Cal Lu being ahead of Redlands. I do not think that Redlands has any business being i the west rankings right now. With that being said, I thought that Cal Lu was, and still is, a bubble team at best... but I cannot see Redlands getting in ahead of them. Honestly, I am not sure either will get in with Hendrix stealing a bid and Millsaps grabbing a Pool C.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: LA Mike on April 30, 2009, 03:29:19 PM
Big Poppa--   

I agree, and the Regional Rankings #2 just came out.  Now we have to wait again ............. for the weekend games, then the Final Rankings #3, and then the Tourn. Seeding on May 10th..............

I left a post with a question to you and Ralph under the West Region Tourn. 

Thanks,  LA Mike
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: chakote on May 01, 2009, 02:41:04 PM
Quote from: LA Mike on April 29, 2009, 03:18:38 PM
The quote from the SB Sun should not be a basis for including a third or maybe a fourth place SCIAC team in the playoffs.  They lost to Cal Lu, they lost to Chapman. 

The Bulldogs have not been in any polls for several weeks and have lost way too many games that they should have won.   They were listed on several other regional rankings ahead of Cal Lu, but I do not know how that is justified either.  Start the bulldogging again for 2010 and they should win when they are supposed to.

I do not think that Chapman should be in the 2009 playoffs, especially in the west region (their list of dates on the fence will have a break in it but that is OK).  If you need an extra team in some other place, seed them there......Their historical experience should not be a factor in the selection process.

Pick off move coming.......see you again,   LA Mike

I don't understand the animosity towards Chapman??? ??? for the last 4+ years Chapman has had a very successful program, that is contributed to the coaching staff starting with coach T, and IMHO they have the best pitching coach in the league with coach Edwards. They brought in a great offensive coach in Koosed which he has proven himself to be a very good hitting instructor.

I believe that there is nothing wrong with being a home team homer because I am one but to critisize another team because they have been successful for so many years is wrong.

They have had a very good pitching staff for the last 4+ years, but that has steadily gone down with the loss of Yacko last year,  a year premature because if he wasn't drafted last year we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. But because of there pitching coach being able to bring such a young pitching staff to where they are right now just goes to show you that the leadership on this team is nothing short of being admirable. By losing there #1  2/3rds into the season and being able to even have a chance into post season is once again because of there coaching staff.

Although however it turns out all I can think of is that because of our competitive nature which is taught to us from a very young age. There is no one that remembers who took second place.
But like Churchill said SUCCESS IS NOT FATAL, FAILURE IS NOT FINAL BUT THE COURAGE TO CONTINUE IS WHAT COUNTS!!! No matter how the season turns out whether Cal Lu continues on or if Chapman moves into the post season as long the kids have the courage to continue on is what counts
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 01, 2009, 02:49:04 PM
Quote from: chakote on May 01, 2009, 02:41:04 PM
Quote from: LA Mike on April 29, 2009, 03:18:38 PM
The quote from the SB Sun should not be a basis for including a third or maybe a fourth place SCIAC team in the playoffs.  They lost to Cal Lu, they lost to Chapman. 

The Bulldogs have not been in any polls for several weeks and have lost way too many games that they should have won.   They were listed on several other regional rankings ahead of Cal Lu, but I do not know how that is justified either.  Start the bulldogging again for 2010 and they should win when they are supposed to.

I do not think that Chapman should be in the 2009 playoffs, especially in the west region (their list of dates on the fence will have a break in it but that is OK).  If you need an extra team in some other place, seed them there......Their historical experience should not be a factor in the selection process.

Pick off move coming.......see you again,   LA Mike

I don't understand the animosity towards Chapman??? ??? for the last 4+ years Chapman has had a very successful program, that is contributed to the coaching staff starting with coach T, and IMHO they have the best pitching coach in the league with coach Edwards. They brought in a great offensive coach in Koosed which he has proven himself to be a very good hitting instructor.

I believe that there is nothing wrong with being a home team homer because I am one but to critisize another team because they have been successful for so many years is wrong.

They have had a very good pitching staff for the last 4+ years, but that has steadily gone down with the loss of Yacko last year,  a year premature because if he wasn't drafted last year we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. But because of there pitching coach being able to bring such a young pitching staff to where they are right now just goes to show you that the leadership on this team is nothing short of being admirable. By losing there #1  2/3rds into the season and being able to even have a chance into post season is once again because of there coaching staff.

Although however it turns out all I can think of is that because of our competitive nature which is taught to us from a very young age. There is no one that remembers who took second place.
But like Churchill said SUCCESS IS NOT FATAL, FAILURE IS NOT FINAL BUT THE COURAGE TO CONTINUE IS WHAT COUNTS!!! No matter how the season turns out whether Cal Lu continues on or if Chapman moves into the post season as long the kids have the courage to continue on is what counts

Well stated, Chakote.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 01, 2009, 04:46:24 PM
What team does Churchill coach? :P

I am pretty bummed to see the West Region standings but again, if Cal Lu won the SCIAC we would not be talking about this.  The 3 games against La Sierra are obviously not helping and now I wonder why they only played Chapman twice.  Nobody to blame but themselves.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 01, 2009, 05:19:21 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 01, 2009, 04:46:24 PM
What team does Churchill coach? :P
England, but he retired undefeated. ;)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseballroxmysox on May 01, 2009, 07:59:58 PM
Anybody know what the score of the Cal Lu and Whittier game that is being played right now??
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: goodolsciac on May 01, 2009, 10:55:38 PM
Pomona beats La Verne 5-4 in the bottom of the 9th with a walk off home run.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on May 01, 2009, 11:39:52 PM
Quote from: baseballroxmysox on May 01, 2009, 07:59:58 PM
Anybody know what the score of the Cal Lu and Whittier game that is being played right now??
Cal Lu's website shows they beat Whittier by a score of 15-3.
Quote from: goodolsciac on May 01, 2009, 10:55:38 PM
Pomona beats La Verne 5-4 in the bottom of the 9th with a walk off home run.
Got a chance to catch the game today... PP somehow squeaked out another one. Sweet looked pretty good on the mound, making one mistake to Silva that left the yard for a 2run HR. The only other run he gave up came on a HBP, sac bunt and then base hit. Colvin gives up 4 (2 unearned I believe) in nine innings, but gives up the 3-2 lead in the eighth after a couple big hits and an error.
Silva singles again in the ninth and Bingham works a 2-2 count and drives a home run to right center for the win. Watching those boys go crazy (clinching outright SCIAC championship) was something special, especially after last season's collapse. They've had a heck of a season so far, its been fun to watch. I can only hope they keep up this momentum, don't want to drop any games and possibly give up that #1 regional seed.

Also, is there any chance for CLU to make it? They've had an impressive year, but with Chapman and Hendrix getting pool B and pool A bids, doesn't seem to leave much room for the Kingsmen. I'm sure the Hens won't be too disappointed if they don't have to face them again in regionals...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: royhobbs on May 01, 2009, 11:44:18 PM
congrats to PP on another victory, how'd Hedman do and who got the win?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on May 01, 2009, 11:48:00 PM
Saw part of the PP-ULV game today.  Colvin pitched for PP, and threw a nice game.

Game was tied 2-2 in the 6th or 7th when PP took the lead on a HBP, sac bunt and RBI single.  ULV took the lead in the top of the 8th with a 2 out RBI double off the top of the RF wall and then a E6.

In the bottom of the 8th, PP's leadoff hitter got on, then was sacrificed to 2nd, bringing up Hedman.  ULV decided to intentionally walk him, but the 1st pitch was a PB, allowing the runner to go to 3rd.  With one out and the tying run now at 3rd, ULV brought the infield in, and Hedman hit a liner at the 1st baseman for out #2.  Next batter Mandleblatt hit a laser up the middle that the pitcher somehow snared for the final out.

In the bottom of the 9th, 1st PP batter struck out, then a 1 out single, bringing up Bingham.  He hit one pretty good over the right-center fence...legit homer, not one of the pop ups that can go out in that short porch.  Nice way for the PP seniors to go out in their last home game...and clinch sole possession of SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on May 01, 2009, 11:50:49 PM
Quote from: royhobbs on May 01, 2009, 11:44:18 PM
congrats to PP on another victory, how'd Hedman do and who got the win?
I believe Hedman went hitless, but struck a few balls well (including a line out to first that would have tied the game in the eighth). Victory went to Colvin who went all nine, only giving up 2 earned and threw about 100 pitches I'd say. really impressive outing, battling through some tough luck to shut down most of the la verne bats.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: royhobbs on May 01, 2009, 11:55:56 PM
PP needs to stay hot, it'll probably be them and Chapman going to Regionals. Cal Lu maybe looking at next year, which they should do well.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: LA Mike on May 02, 2009, 12:02:56 AM
Chakote--  no animosity meant. 

Just comparing the teams based on their records --- who they beat and who beat them.  Teams are left out of the playoffs, teams do not make the playoffs and every team that is "on deck" to the playoffs hates to lose.   

Chapman will probably get a bid---

Keep your eye on the ball and good luck......
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: chakote on May 02, 2009, 04:36:52 AM
Quote from: LA Mike on May 02, 2009, 12:02:56 AM
Chakote--  no animosity meant. 

Just comparing the teams based on their records --- who they beat and who beat them.  Teams are left out of the playoffs, teams do not make the playoffs and every team that is "on deck" to the playoffs hates to lose.   

Chapman will probably get a bid---

Keep your eye on the ball and good luck......

LA MIIKE, there was none taken; you seem to be an intelegent indvidual at least through your verbage and knowledge of D3 sports. I am glad to see that P-P has done so well as a matter of fact for the most part the SCAIC was very well represented this year and all the teams in that division played good heads up ball this year as a whole.

in the years past it has been one team or two and the rest of the division seemed to struggle moreover as a whole we are glad to see pretty much all of them were coached well and played well all season which makes for great competitve baseball.

As for Cal Lu they have had the secret to winning and that is a very good pitching staff along with an offence that can score enough runs to keep there pitching staff in the w column.

It is that time of year that nerves get stretched and the competitive nature in all of us seem to win over pragmatism; whom ever gets the nodd to represent the west whether in the SCAIC or Indy programs needs to take the walnut and bronze and bring it back to the west coast this year because we are overdue  in taking over the championship for a few years at least 8)

If Chapman does indeed have the luck and opportunity this year to go to the post season.  because of there young team that is rebuilding for at least this year and next; which will bring Kitchens back to the hill and give him a chance to close out his sr. year on the positive side. After 4 good solid years and a lot of hard work to have the chance to take it to the next level on the + side, I do believe that whoever gets CU wants to go up against there best pitcher. I know when I played and coached the best competition only made you stronger as a player.
Time to shake the rosin bag and bring the heat along with the walnut and bronze.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on May 02, 2009, 07:07:45 PM
Chapman won first game today, 21-1. Leads second game  in bottom of second inning.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on May 02, 2009, 09:16:37 PM
U Dallas 4 Chapman 3,  final in the second game.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: LA Mike on May 02, 2009, 11:57:46 PM
Updates on the SCIAC games
Saturday Double header:

PP over La Verne  5-4 in first game.   
Box scores not up yet.  PP scored 2 then 1 and then 2 more to win the game.
                                     LV scored 1 then 1 and then 2 more in the loss.

PP lost to Laverne 13-10 in the second game.
Back and forth scoring the entire game -- HR's, doubles and many hits.  Good   
       defense from both teams.  An afternoon of college players, playing the game.
Box scores not up yet, Hedman 1 HR, double etc------the usual

PP 19-2 conf.  35-5 OA         LV   12-9 conf.   23-16 OA 

Others:

Cal Lu swept 3 games from Whittier -- Friday and Sat.

Redlands split with CMS on Saturday, and also took the Friday Game 15-1 ?? I think.

Now  --  on to the D3 Western Regionals in Oregon.

Inning, Games and Regular Season OVER, because it is OVER !!!!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: chakote on May 03, 2009, 09:14:49 AM
LA Mike!!!

Cal Lu has broken the 30 win mark first time sense 2002 congrats and P-P hopefully they represent the SCIAC Well and go to Linfield and kick some butt. It's each So. Cal team for themselves if CU gets a pool b bid; (jk)

No really; Congratst to P-P in having a great season, it is not easy to maintain such an awesome w-l record throughout the whole season especially in such a competitive division. Let Hedman know that up in Ore. the mosquoites are so big and they are large enough to carry off one of his HR balls in mid flight before it goes over the fence especially if it is a game played at dusk.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: LA Mike on May 03, 2009, 02:56:14 PM
A warning to the mosquito to get out of the way or become windshield decoration !!
He hits the ball so hard,  the ball whines !!!!

The team will put your best wishes in their travel bag,  thanks.

I hope to have computer access in Oregon and will stay in touch.  On these signals to  the "SCIAC Team", watch for the indicator first, and it will be the first line after the second touch to the hat !!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HA.

The field crew now has time to do their magic.......out.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on May 03, 2009, 08:55:05 PM
Sunday final: Chapman 10 , U Dallas 4
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 04, 2009, 10:12:01 AM
Ball has been spotted the PP Hedman hit this year.

http://hometeamsonline.com/photos/baseball/10UFURYBASEBALL/baseball_screaming_fire_trail_.gif
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on May 04, 2009, 03:43:42 PM
QuoteThere is no one that remembers who took second place.
I dunno....I remember wonderful Dodger teams taking runner-up to Oakland and New York in the 70's. Do not even get me started on the Lakers – Boston of the 60's.


QuoteWhat team does Churchill coach? 

England, but he retired undefeated. 

True, however, it took many mid-season trades with the Yanks to get it done.

Sincere hopes the Willamette Valley lightens (literally) up a bit for the tourney.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 04, 2009, 04:00:42 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on May 04, 2009, 03:43:42 PM

QuoteWhat team does Churchill coach? 

England, but he retired undefeated. 

True, however, it took many mid-season trades with the Yanks to get it done.

One in a long line of US government bailouts. :D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: royhobbs on May 07, 2009, 07:24:59 PM
Anyone check out the All SCIAC selections? I didn't know LaVerne came in second! ???
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sagehenalum47 on May 07, 2009, 09:15:38 PM
whats with the inconsistency in the regional rankings? Cal lu was unranked last week, went 3-0 against lowly whittier, and now they are 3rd in the region?? I do think that is cal lu's rightful place, but I dont understand what changed the voters minds.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: LA Mike on May 07, 2009, 11:35:26 PM
Hey royhobbs--------I can hear the music playing !!!!

La Verne came in fourth !!

Congratulations to all the players and the All SCIAConference Selections- the numbers across the board were extraordinary this season.   

The old flash bulbs are popping and that Roy Hedman//er// Hobbs has hit the lights out !!!!  He kind of runs like Roy Hobbs, but then a home run trot is just a beautiful thing from any viewpoint !!!  [Unless it is a walk-off by the other team]

Time to watch the sequel........in Oregon !!!

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 14, 2009, 07:43:36 PM
Geeze, it's been a while yet again since I have posted anything on these boards.

First off, my hats off to the Hens in proving that this was their year and that they would not let up towards the end of the year (as they had done in the past). Additionally, congrats to Hedman and Co. in providing the Hen nation the ooos and ahhh's in taking care of teams this year. (Geeze, who would have thought that the Hens would be Ranked as High as #1 in the Nation??) So congarts to them.

Similary, congrats to Cal Who in their biggest effort yet in trying to get this program turned around and headed back to the top (and this time via Pitching like they did back in 01/02). I had a feeling that the Who would have a great season after I saw them working as a unit grilling hotdogs, selling lemonade, oranges, candy and cookie on a cold rain wet saturday in November during the Oxyv.s.Cal Who football game (wait, Im still talking about baseball right??? No sleep and tons of work does this to a young buck)
Anywho's, congrats to the who on an awesome season.

As for the rest of the SCIAC teams My Tigers, The Pups, THe stags, THe Poets, THe Leos, the Beaves, thanks for giving us another season of SCIAC baseball. Now its time to cheer on our SCIAC representatives at the Big dance. These two teams (the hens and the who) deserve being up in Oregon representing So. Cal Baseball. Good luck to them., It should be fun reading about these games.

R.I.P SCIAC co-champs: Panthers. You guys willl soon rebound and start destroying D3 teams with all the local talent you get. Good luck during the offseason
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 14, 2009, 11:06:28 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on May 14, 2009, 07:43:36 PM
...
R.I.P SCIAC co-champs: Panthers. You guys willl soon rebound and start destroying D3 teams with all the local talent you get. Good luck during the offseason
Ahhhh,

I am not sure that you saw the score...

SCIAC Co-champs 16, UT-Tyler 2    ;)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on May 14, 2009, 11:53:07 PM
Ooops, My bad. I think I read that score wrong. Need sleep. Congrats to the Panthers on their big win
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: regent1 on May 15, 2009, 02:15:44 AM
actually, the SCIAC did not have co champs.  PP had it all  to themselves  :)  And the 16 to 2 score was Chapman who are independent, pool B and not in the league!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseballroxmysox on May 15, 2009, 02:40:21 AM
 ;D
Quote from: regent1 on May 15, 2009, 02:15:44 AM
actually, the SCIAC did not have co champs.  PP had it all  to themselves  :)  And the 16 to 2 score was Chapman who are independent, pool B and not in the league!

Regents1    you are new to the boards...... Chapman is known on the Boards as the SCIAC co champs.... its there nick name.   I guess since they get the honor of going to the regionals with a SCIAC team.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 15, 2009, 07:13:06 AM
... and since they play almost the entire SCIAC conference every year without actually being in the SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sagehenalum47 on May 15, 2009, 01:23:49 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 15, 2009, 07:13:06 AM
... and since they play almost the entire SCIAC conference every year without actually being in the SCIAC.


though it must be noted that the "sciac co champs" actually were under .500 against the sciac this year: 1-2 against whittier, 0-2 against la verne, 1-1 against cal lu, 0-3 against PP, 3-0 against CMS, 1-1 against redlands = 6-9.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: HALLEBASEBALL on May 16, 2009, 02:46:38 AM
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R.I.P SCIAC co-champs: Panthers. You guys willl soon rebound and start destroying D3 teams with all the local talent you get. Good luck during the offseason
[/quote]


rip.????????? REPLAY IN PROGRESS
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: royhobbs on May 16, 2009, 11:34:22 AM
Nice win for the SCIAC fifth place team Panthers. Win enough games to qualify and then win the close ones at the end. The Panthers have been doing it for years. First team to score 10 runs tonight wins! Can the Panthers sqeeze another few innings out of Kitchens or is he done? Lots of runs looking like the play tonight!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: royhobbs on May 16, 2009, 10:27:07 PM
LA Mike, nice run for Cal Lu, but pitching wasn't as strong as advertised. PP hammered 'em, but they may get a taste of their own medicine tonight. Final score prediction......12-8, and the winner is....................the Panthers, who else to better battle G Fox?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 16, 2009, 10:34:29 PM
Quote from: royhobbs on May 16, 2009, 10:27:07 PM
LA Mike, nice run for Cal Lu, but pitching wasn't as strong as advertised. PP hammered 'em, but they may get a taste of their own medicine tonight. Final score prediction......12-8, and the winner is....................the Panthers, who else to better battle G Fox?

Not sure if its fair to say the Cal Lu pitching wasn't as advertised.  Evry team in the tournament can hit.  Did they impress?  Only on Thursday night.  Either way, I think George Fox can give Chapman a run for their money.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: P-P Fan on May 17, 2009, 02:35:57 AM
Got to watch the whole tournament and all I can say is that im proud of the sagecocks for an outstanding season. by the numbers, easily the best season in the program's history and did a lot to put the school(s) on the map. Unfortunately, ran in to some good teams and im sure the nwc teams can attest to the difficulty of beating a team 4 times in a year (PP ends up 3-1 vs chapman, but chapman did it when it mattered most). tonight the cocks hit the ball well, just right at guys and couldn't quite get the clutch hit when they really needed it.

Overall though, without a doubt the best team chemistry i have ever seen on an athletic field. each one of those men see the others as their brothers and they play the game the way its meant to be played. if you watch them during from batting practice through the end of the game, its tough to imagine a team that enjoys being on the field more than they do. Incredible team, too bad it had to end. Hats off to chapman, they showed why they are considered one of the best teams in the country. Whether the panthers or GFU represents the west in appleton, im sure they will do us all proud.

And with that ends the posting career of P-P fan. I will continue watching the d3 scene, but a little more quietly.

COMPETE.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on May 17, 2009, 09:25:36 AM
Will be interesting to see how SCIAC plays out next year.  Pomona returns some talent, but losing Hedman, Mandelblatt, Huerta and Silva will be a big blow to the offense.  Pitching will obviously be anchored by Colvin...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: royhobbs on May 17, 2009, 02:12:57 PM
Congtatulations to the PP Sagehens on a great run, lots of outstanding players. If Cal Lu brings everyone back next year, they should be favored to win the SCIAC. Good year for the SCIAC, they'll be some players drafted this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on June 11, 2009, 08:26:40 AM
From the "Faces In The Crowd" page in the June 15 edition of Sports Illustrated (http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1156462/index.htm):

Quote
Drew Hedman
REDDING, CALIF. > Baseball
Hedman, a senior first baseman at Pomona College, led NCAA Division III in home runs (24), RBIs (87), slugging (.994) and total bases (175). He was named Division III hitter of the year by college baseball writers after helping the Sagehens—whose players come from Pomona and Pitzer colleges—reach the NCAA West Regional.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SJSUPhil on September 23, 2009, 11:45:32 PM
Never count out the Redlands Bulldogs!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on December 01, 2009, 06:21:33 PM
2010 Whittier College Baseball Schedule Released
http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2009-10/schedule_released
http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2009-10/schedule

2010 University of Redlands Baseball Schedule
http://www.goredlands.com/sports/bsb/2009-10/schedule

2010 University of La Verne Baseball Schedule
http://www.leopardathletics.com/sports/spring/bsb/2009-10/schedule

2010 Occidental College Baseball Schedule
http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/bsb/2009-10/schedule

2010 Cal Tech Baseball Schedule
http://www.gocaltech.com/sports/bsb/2009-10/schedule

2010 Pomona-Pitzer College Baseball Schedule
http://www.pe.pomona.edu/sports/men/bsb/2009-10/schedule

2010 Claremont-Mudd-Scripps College Baseball Schedule
http://www.cmsathletics.org/sports/spring/bsb/2009-10/schedule

2010 Cal Lutheran University Baseball Schedule
http://www.clusports.com/baseball/schedule/

Baseball is back in less than 10 weeks in SOCAL....

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
- ROGER HORNSBY
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on December 01, 2009, 06:29:33 PM
Can't leave out former SCIAC team Chapman University 2010 Schedule

Chapman will play SCIAC teams 16 times in 2010

http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2009-10/schedule
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on December 12, 2009, 11:03:10 PM
Chapman's two years as an associate in three sports from 1950-52 is a real stretch to be called a former member.  :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: LA Mike on December 23, 2009, 07:44:28 PM
SCIAC--

The revised conference schedule for 2010, has each SCIAC team playing each other four times ----- a 3 series-[game on Friday afternoon/DH on Saturday] and then a series of single games between all of the teams to end the season.  Seems like they are setting up for a tie breaker discussions right out of the gate.  That only leave a remainder of 12 games for out of SCIAC conference play. 

It may be a plus for Chapman to only play 16 games against the SCIAC teams as they play Menlo a bunch, and then do their travel games-- it is a bonus in post season play to have the travel experience and night games under your belt as you head to the regional games at the end of the season.   

I am going  to cut my bull pen short as I am just getting in shape -- footwork is the key.  More to follow over the next six weeks................LA Mike
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on December 24, 2009, 01:43:25 AM
Does it hurt SCIAC teams when playing Cal Tech 4 times and some of the SCIAC schools also having games with La Sierra scheduled.

Can this hurt at the time Pool C bids are determined for the playoffs.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: C.M.Stag on December 24, 2009, 11:46:42 AM
Just speculating here, but was the decision to play an extra game against SCIAC opponents a result of tighter athletic budgets this year? Fewer dollars for traveling = more games locally.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on December 24, 2009, 02:49:47 PM
Budget cuts will have major impacts going forward regarding more local games
and less travel games.

Could this mean teams in the North, Midwest, and East get impacted by less travel games to warm weather spots like SoCal early in the season and more games in shorter time frame at the back end of the schedule during the warmer months.

I have seen many 2010 schedules now have some 4 game series Friday to Sunday for some teams.

Could the 40 game season get cut in future years ?

Could this lead to more interdivision games between DI, DII, DIII and even NAIA level teams since more opponents can be found  locally.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 31, 2009, 08:55:44 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on December 24, 2009, 01:43:25 AM
Does it hurt SCIAC teams when playing Cal Tech 4 times and some of the SCIAC schools also having games with La Sierra scheduled.

Can this hurt at the time Pool C bids are determined for the playoffs.

I don't think that the SCIAC is helping itself with these changes, but budget may be driving this anyway.

The SCIAC was an insular conference to begin with.

Quote from: C.M.Stag on December 24, 2009, 11:46:42 AM
Just speculating here, but was the decision to play an extra game against SCIAC opponents a result of tighter athletic budgets this year? Fewer dollars for traveling = more games locally.


It looks that way to me. 

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on December 24, 2009, 02:49:47 PM
Budget cuts will have major impacts going forward regarding more local games
and less travel games.

Could this mean teams in the North, Midwest, and East get impacted by less travel games to warm weather spots like SoCal early in the season and more games in shorter time frame at the back end of the schedule during the warmer months.

I have seen many 2010 schedules now have some 4 game series Friday to Sunday for some teams.

Could the 40 game season get cut in future years ?

Could this lead to more interdivision games between DI, DII, DIII and even NAIA level teams since more opponents can be found  locally.
The SCIAC can cut its season unliaterally any time that it wants.

I have not heard anything about the NCAA invoking a cut in D-III seasons.  10% seems to be the most commonly speculated amount.

Travel does seem to be less ambitious this year.  McMurry plays 6 non-D3 games this season, but has kept their trip to Chapman.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cat_fan_08 on January 02, 2010, 11:41:58 AM
The Northwest Conference cut down their non conference schedule a few years ago and added a fourth game to each conference series. This was done to get some of the teams in eastern washington more games since they did not have enough teams locally to get non conference.

After a couple years of testing this out they have gone back to the 3 game conference schedule and increased their non conference schedule.

Linfield goes to Arizona to open the season against some SCIAC teams. The go and play Lewis-Clark State which will be a great early season test. Then they finish the season at Chapman. What a non Conference Schedule!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: InsideandTight on January 08, 2010, 10:47:59 AM
SCIAC Forecast for 2010 Season:

1. Cal Lu
2. Redlands
3. CMS
4. LaVerne
5. Pomona Pitzer
6. Oxy
7. Whittier
8. Cal Tech

The combination of more confernce games and the disproportionate loss of seniors on some teams should shake things up this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 08, 2010, 12:28:42 PM
Quote from: InsideandTight on January 08, 2010, 10:47:59 AM
SCIAC Forecast for 2010 Season:

The combination of more confernce games and the disproportionate loss of seniors on some teams should shake things up this year.

I like the predictions. Can you expand on why you placed teams in those slots and which teams were most hurt by heavy graduation losses?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 11, 2010, 01:25:06 AM
Weather for SoCal Teams practices/intrasquad games this week

Los Angeles, CA Forecast @ Jan 10 08:15 p.m. PT

Mon Jan 11  Partly Cloudy 78°/56° 
Tue Jan 12  Mostly Cloudy 74°/54° 
Wed Jan 13  Mostly Cloudy 71°/50° 
Thu Jan 14  Sunny 75°/53° 
Fri Jan 15  Cloudy 75°/51° 
Sat Jan 16  Partly Cloudy 72°/50° 
Sun Jan 17  Mostly Cloudy 69°/51° 
Mon Jan 18  Showers 68°/53° 
Tue Jan 19  Showers 70°/52°   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on January 16, 2010, 11:03:21 AM
Pomona lost a lot to graduation...

Hedman (.489/24/87), Mandelblatt (.407/4/31), Silva (.372/9/32)and Huerta (.369/5/48) in the lineup, and Church, who started 11 games (and Madelblatt who started 9) on the mound.

Notable returners include James Kang (.404/4/37) and also the closer, along with David Colvin, their best pitcher (8-0, 3.17)  Really impressed with Colvin last year.  Some other pop in the lineup returning, including Nick Frederick, but will probably be impossible to replicate the kind of run production of last year's team.  Pitching staff has a chance to be pretty decent, though.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 25, 2010, 12:34:09 PM
Baseball Season Start Today !!!

Cal Tech plays La Sierra
http://www.gocaltech.com/sports/bsb/2009-10/schedule

SCIAC 2010 Schedule
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2009-10/schedule
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 31, 2010, 02:05:39 PM
SCIAC SCOREBOARD

Last week scores
Caltech  8  La Sierra  12 
La Sierra  2  Redlands  7 
Pomona-Pitzer  4  Westmont  11 
UC Santa Cruz (club)  15  Caltech  2 - 7 innings   
Pomona-Pitzer  2  Westmont  3     
UC Santa Cruz (club)  8  Caltech  8  8 innings Called Due to Darkness 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 31, 2010, 02:11:20 PM
Thanks, Crash- seeing Pomona-Pitzer drop a pair to lowly NAIA Westmont makes me think I was a bit too high on the Sagehens. Westmont traditionally finishes at or near the bottom of the NAIA Golden State Athletic Conference.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 01, 2010, 02:54:04 PM
RAIN COMING BACK IN SOCAL.

Forecasted rain this week and weekend could impact games this week in the LA area....for SCIAC and other D3/NAIA area teams
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: C.M.Stag on February 02, 2010, 01:38:52 AM
From D3 Baseball Main site:

QuoteSouthern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference (SCIAC) : With a 19-2 conference record and an All-Everything first basemen, one would think Pomona-Pitzer would be the runaway SCIAC winner in 2009. Not quite so. Pitzer finished only two games ahead of Cal Lutheran thanks to a late-season series win that cemented the Sagehens' second SCIAC championship in three years. Heading into 2010, Pitzer loses 4 of their top 5 hitters and will look to James Kang (.404, 4 HR, 37 RBI) and Nick Frederick (.348, 11 HR, 44 RBI) to fill the void. David Colvin (8-0, 3.17 ERA) will lead a staff that sees only 23 starts (12 by Colvin) return from last season. Cal Lu will be hot on their trails looking to improve on a school-record 32 wins and will be lead on the mound by Chase Tigert (9-2, 3.57 ERA) and Greg Gelber (9-2, 3.04 ERA), who held George Fox's top-ranked offense to one run in last year's regional. At the dish, the Kingsmen return their top two power threats in Paul Hartmann (.385, 12 HR, 46 RBI) and Jordan Ott (.361, 12 HR, 50 RBI). Looking to upset the two favorites, who both received playoff births last season, will be La Verne who will welcome back three 1st Team SCIAC hitters in Jon Hattabaugh (.368, 9 HR, 51 RBI), Victor Pinado (.420, 7 HR, 34 RBI), and Mike Surina (.396, 6 HR, 40 RBI). The big question for the Leopards will be a pitching staff that will see only 41% (139 2/3 of 340 1/3) of their innings from last year's pitching staff back on the diamond. That might be a good thing, though; La Verne had a team ERA of 5.45. Expect a two-headed race between Cal Lu and returning champs Pomona-Pitzer with La Verne playing the role of spoiler.

I agree that Cal Lu should be considered the favorite, but with PP losing as much talent as they did I'm not sure that they are strong enough to win SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 03, 2010, 09:14:13 AM
Forecasted rain could postpone/cancel games for Friday & Saturday

GAMES THIS WEEK

SUNDAY Jan. 31
La Sierra  0  Cal Lutheran  14  Final  
La Sierra  0  Cal Lutheran  18  Final  
http://www.clusports.com/baseball/news/6174/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TUESDAY Feb. 2
Redlands 7   La Sierra 2 Final  
http://www.goredlands.com/sports/bsb/2009-10/news/01_29_10_BSB_LSU
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
WEDNESDAY Feb. 3
Cal Lutheran  12  Westmont  8  Final 
http://www.clusports.com/baseball/news/6186/
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  2  Azusa Pacific  6  Final 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
FRIDAY THURSDAY Feb. 5
La Verne   Biola   2:00 PM  
Whittier   Chapman   4:30 PM  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SATURDAY Feb. 6
Chapman   Whittier   11:00 AM  Live stats  
Menlo   Pomona-Pitzer   11:00 AM  
Biola   La Verne   11:00 AM  
Whitworth   Occidental   11:00 AM  
Alumni   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   11:00 AM  
Alumni   Redlands   12:00 PM  
UC Santa Barbara (club)   Caltech   12:00 PM  
Alumni   Cal Lutheran   1:00 PM  
Chapman   Whittier   2:30 PM  Live stats  
Menlo   Pomona-Pitzer   2:30 PM  
Whitworth   Occidental   2:30 PM  
UC Santa Barbara (club)   Caltech   3:00 PM  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SUNDAY Feb. 7
Menlo   Pomona-Pitzer   11:00 AM  
Whitworth   Occidental   11:00 AM  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 07, 2010, 12:41:30 AM
Whittier College Baseball
http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2009-10/News/chapman_postponed2

Inclement weather postpones Whittier College-Chapman game


ORANGE, Calif. - Two days, two rain outs for the Whittier College baseball team. This evening's opener against Chapman University has been postponed for a second time in as many days due to inclement weather.

The double-header that was originally schedule for Saturday morning and was pushed back to Sunday morning is still on as planned. The first pitch is scheduled for 11 am on February 7 at Memorial Field.

The single game in the series between the Poets and Panthers has been moved to Monday evening at 7 pm at Chapman.

If Memorial Field is unplayable on Sunday morning, the twin bill will be moved to Chapman tomorrow afternoon starting at 3 pm.

Check back with www.wcpoets.com tomorrow to find out the latest with the Chapman-Whittier series.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on February 07, 2010, 08:13:49 PM
Whittier dropped a doublehitter to Chapman Sunday afternoon, 14-1 and 11-1, and lost 15-3 at Chapman on Monday.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: nvnorthpaw on February 12, 2010, 11:23:37 AM
Gelber was impressive today in his second start of the season (10 scoreless innings already).  If Tigert can get his self back on track, it looks like the staff will be hard to beat..again. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 13, 2010, 08:56:28 PM
SCIAC SCOREBOARD

http://www.d3baseball.com/conference/SCIAC#schedule
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CMSfan on February 13, 2010, 10:34:33 PM
Was anyone at the CMS-Redlands doubleheader?  Looks like the second game had quite a finish.  CMS hit a two-run homerun to go ahead by one in the top of the 9th.  Redlands answered with a three-run walkoff homerun to win it.

Tough loss for the Stags.  Winning a series against Redlands would have been a nice start to SCIAC play.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: nvnorthpaw on February 18, 2010, 01:38:44 AM
Does anyone know how Jordan Ott ended up at CLU?  I was glancing over the PG website and he was ranked a PG-10 multiple times.  It seems odd that someone with his size and abilities would be at CLU.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 18, 2010, 08:00:45 AM
Quote from: nvnorthpaw on February 18, 2010, 01:38:44 AM
Does anyone know how Jordan Ott ended up at CLU?  I was glancing over the PG website and he was ranked a PG-10 multiple times.  It seems odd that someone with his size and abilities would be at CLU.

There is much more to the game than physical size and ability.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: nvnorthpaw on February 19, 2010, 03:29:21 AM
I completely understand that.  I just found it surprising that someone who was rated a Perfect Game 10 multiple times and was hyped up as having professional level hitting and power abilities out of HS would end up at a d3.  I'm not knocking d3 by any means.  I have played at the d3 level and have seen many a great player come out of d3, I just find it interesting that a hyped up guy such as himself ended there.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on February 22, 2010, 10:09:51 PM
Pomona off to a 6-0 start, albeit with wins over Cal Tech and Whittier.  Was surprised to see a #12 ranking for Pomona with all of the graduation losses...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 24, 2010, 02:30:23 PM
Huge West Region games this week. 3 of these teams were in last years West Regional in Oregon. Pomona beat Chapman 3 out of 4 times last year. Will be playoff like game intensity in these games. Teams at this time are IMHO in the top ten in the WEST

Friday Feb. 26  
Chapman @ Pomona-Pitzer   2:00 PM  

Cal Lutheran @  Redlands  2:30 PM  

Saturday Feb. 27
Pomona-Pitzer @   Chapman 11:00 AM      
Pomona-Pitzer @   Chapman   2:00 PM    

Redlands @   Cal Lutheran   11:00 AM  
Redlands @   Cal Lutheran    2:30 PM  
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 24, 2010, 02:47:42 PM
The SoCal portion of the West could become much less cloudy after this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CalCat on February 24, 2010, 04:28:48 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 24, 2010, 02:47:42 PM
The SoCal portion of the West could become much less cloudy after this weekend.

Only if the weekend "clouds" let them play out :(
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 24, 2010, 05:01:24 PM
Forecast looks like

Friday: No Rain
Saturday: Rain
Sunday: No Rain

Games could get moved from Saturday to Sunday maybe....

http://www.weather.com/weather/weekend/USCA0638
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 25, 2010, 10:53:21 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 24, 2010, 02:30:23 PM
Huge West Region games this week. 3 of these teams were in last years West Regional in Oregon. Pomona beat Chapman 3 out of 4 times last year. Will be playoff like game intensity in these games. Teams at this time are IMHO in the top ten in the WEST

Friday Feb. 26  
Chapman @ Pomona-Pitzer   2:00 PM   

Cal Lutheran @  Redlands  2:30 PM 

Saturday Feb. 27
Pomona-Pitzer @   Chapman 11:00 AM     
Pomona-Pitzer @   Chapman   2:00 PM     

Redlands @   Cal Lutheran   11:00 AM   
Redlands @   Cal Lutheran    2:30 PM   

Not sure if at this point we should consider this weekend's Hen v.s Panther match-up a Huge West Region match up. IMHO, with the loss of some many Pomona players  graduating, this years squad probabily will not muster out one single win against a stronger Panther team. Even more, the hens most recent wins have come against teams out in the weat that are historically not that strong (sorry Whitter, I have been trying to pick you as my sleeper team the last 3 years and all you have done is stayed at the bottom.)
Although the injury bug caught Coach T and his players in a bad way last year, I can assure you that Chapman may just be right where they left off two years ago once they get done with the hens this weekend.

Wew, its been a long time since i have come on board and mentioned anything.
The game to definately be on the look out though, Cal Who v.s the Puppy Nation.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 25, 2010, 12:46:34 PM
Chapman vs Pomona will be the first real test for both teams to see how each team has reloaded this year.

Chapman did have key injuries to 3 starters last year but found a way to win at the end.

Chapman this year has had to replace 2 top starting pitchers, the closer, a DH, and 5 position players lost from 2009 team. Chapman had 3 players sign professional contracts from the 2009 squad.

It is a very key series to Chapman since the # of POOL B bids has dropped from 6 to 4 this year so every in region game is key to grabbing one of those 4 spots.  Pomona also needs in region wins for a POOL C bid if they dont win the SCIAC like last year.

In region wins/losses against quality opponets can make the real difference of staying home or going to the dance. Look at Pac Lu , Cal Lu and Chapman last year.

I would not underestimate Pomona. Last year Chapman lost all 3 regular series games to Pomona. Pomona still has outstanding players in Kang, Colvin,  Frederick, Gentili and several others that can make a difference in games.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on February 25, 2010, 01:10:34 PM
Gotcha, but,Ummm, try thinking real test for Chapman thus far, Chapman v.s. Pt Loma, Chapman v.s. the stags, Chapman v.s. McMurry. The results from these games already give us who have followed D3 baseball for a long while whom will win this saturdays hen/panther series.

Granted the hens have decent players in  kang et al...., but this porgram is still asleep. You can't count the hens v.s Poets, Hens vs. Westmont, the chicken nuggets v.s caltecth as a sudden reason why they are ready for a battle with a better team. All i am saying is that the hens will be overmatched in this one. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 25, 2010, 04:57:52 PM
Chapman has been very solid so far this season.  I was not too high on this team but they seem to be the most impressive so far.  Pomona has beat up on the worst team in the nation (Cal Tech) and possibly the worst team in Whittier history.  Whittier has been crushed in every game they have played and got their one win against a terrible Whitman team. 
I think The Friday game will be a good one with Colvin going but after that I really don't see Pomona having a good shot.

The rest of the SCIAC seems pretty average to me.  Redlands has played pretty well, but not  the most demanding schedule.
La Verne seems down.  Cal Lu got beat by Oxy, Pac Lu, and Linfield.  Those 2 they lost in AZ were both bullpen meltdowns but if that keeps happening, they are not going anywhere.  We will see what it all looks like after this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: infielddad on February 25, 2010, 06:56:33 PM
Jack,
Welcome back!
Starting to feel like "family" again.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on February 26, 2010, 02:41:26 PM
A wonderful day for a ballgame!

What say? The foothills may get some drizzle from 2-6 pm that should allow Friday game to be played @ Pomona.

I can't hit for Jack Dooky but even then, I would not want to face Travis McGee in a third rain delay game of a double header.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: LA Mike on February 26, 2010, 07:56:18 PM
Chapman 7 ---  Pomona-Pitzer 1 in the 7th.............oops.  Maybe a Saturday double header will bring the bats back for PP.  Waiting for a final report from the game and will post back when I can............
Still stretching, and getting warmed up.  LA Mike
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on February 26, 2010, 08:02:37 PM
Final...Chapman 8-4 over Pomona-Pitzer.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 26, 2010, 09:01:42 PM
I think this went as expected. P-P has not had much of a test to this point, so this was their first solid opponent.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just_Some_Guy on February 27, 2010, 12:23:12 AM
Redlands 13 - Cal Lutheran 4 (http://www.clusports.com/stats/baseball/2010/clu-ur1.htm)

WP: Michael Lessig (3-1)
LP: Greg Gelber (2-2)

Redlands:
C Jefre Johnson 3-4, 3 runs, 2 RBI
2B Chase Tucker 3-4, 3 runs, 3 RBI

Cal Lutheran:
LF Jordan Ott  2-5, 1 HR, 2 RBI
RF Chris Hertz 2-3

JSG
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 27, 2010, 09:39:19 AM
Chapman 8  Pomona-Pitzer 4
http://www.pe.pomona.edu/sports/men/bsb/2009-10/stats/cu-pp.htm

WP: Jordan Sigman(3-0) 7 innings 4 hits 1 earned run
LP: David Colvin(2-1)

CHAPMAN
CF Ryan Prechtl 2-5 2 runs Double
2B Tyler Hadzinsky 2-5 2 runs 3 RBI Home Run, Double  
LF James Parr 2-4 1 run 2 RBI
C Joe Lehman 2-5 1 run 2 doubles
1B Matt Luzar 2-4 1 run 2 RBI Single Home Run

POMONA-PITZER
DH Gentili 2-4 2 runs 1 RBI Double
RF Teddy Bingham 2-2 1 run 2 RBI
LF Erik Munzer 2-4 1 RBI Double
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ECSUalum on February 27, 2010, 12:13:27 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 25, 2010, 04:57:52 PM
Chapman has been very solid so far this season.  I was not too high on this team but they seem to be the most impressive so far.  Pomona has beat up on the worst team in the nation (Cal Tech) and possibly the worst team in Whittier history.  Whittier has been crushed in every game they have played and got their one win against a terrible Whitman team.  
I think The Friday game will be a good one with Colvin going but after that I really don't see Pomona having a good shot.

The rest of the SCIAC seems pretty average to me.  Redlands has played pretty well, but not  the most demanding schedule.
La Verne seems down.  Cal Lu got beat by Oxy, Pac Lu, and Linfield.  Those 2 they lost in AZ were both bullpen meltdowns but if that keeps happening, they are not going anywhere.  We will see what it all looks like after this weekend.


Jack,

Spot on!!  Coach Terechuck has an excellent track record of reloading and  performance @ Chapman, and, as seen last year, getting the most out of his team when injuries occur!!  

Unfortunately, the SCIAC has some pretty weak teams, (we all know who they are ::) ), and this does not help teams like PP, CMS, Redlands and Cal Lu come NCAA Regional pool selection.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 27, 2010, 12:32:22 PM
Pomona-Pitzer @Chapman baseball doubleheader has been rescheduled for Monday, March 1 with the first game beginning at 4 p.m at Hart Park, Orange, CA due to rain today

http://www.chapmanathletics.com/information/releases/0227
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on March 02, 2010, 12:41:51 AM
Monday Pomona-Chapman doublehitter
Game 1  PP12-5 over CU
Game 2   CU 2-1 over PP

Stats at    chapmanathletics.com
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 02, 2010, 09:05:42 AM
Quote from: dahlby on March 02, 2010, 12:41:51 AM
Monday Pomona-Chapman doublehitter
Game 1  PP12-5 over CU
Game 2   CU 2-1 over PP

Stats at    chapmanathletics.com

Why is it that in SoCal a double header is called a double hitter? It drove me crazy when I lived there and everyone insisted that I was wrong.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: utilitycat17 on March 02, 2010, 10:34:19 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 02, 2010, 09:05:42 AM
Why is it that in SoCal a double header is called a double hitter? It drove me crazy when I lived there and everyone insisted that I was wrong.

I don't know who you were talking to, but I've never heard it called that way until on this board recently.  Maybe it's more common in softball.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on March 02, 2010, 10:48:36 AM
I stand corrected....

I wouldn't want to face Freshman Brian Rauh in the second game of a double header.
I see Freshman Travis McGee DNP.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 02, 2010, 11:09:05 AM
Quote from: utilitycat17 on March 02, 2010, 10:34:19 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 02, 2010, 09:05:42 AM
Why is it that in SoCal a double header is called a double hitter? It drove me crazy when I lived there and everyone insisted that I was wrong.

I don't know who you were talking to, but I've never heard it called that way until on this board recently.  Maybe it's more common in softball.
I have gotten used to it now, but it still grates on me when I hear it (like "French" benefits).
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on March 02, 2010, 12:34:58 PM
According to Merriam-Webster Dictionary it is "doubleheader".
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 02, 2010, 12:41:15 PM
Never heard term DoubleHitter ever in SoCal...But have heard this...

Let's Play Two - ERNIE BANKS....
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 02, 2010, 01:22:24 PM
Can't recall ever hearing double hitter either.

By the way, Congrats to the young hens on taking one game away from a strong Panther team. Although, the Panthers clearly walked away with this series, they still should be recognized for their only win. As mentioned before, Coach T yet again has his ball club on fire. Word has it that the panthers whipped an 18-0 game against an NWC on sunday.

Anywho's, hope to catch my Tigers this week at near by Anderson field and be able to watch from the Cliff by the dorms.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 02, 2010, 02:14:40 PM
Hens played outstanding games. There are a very good team that will battle for the top in the SCIAC and could see maybe a rematch if both teams make it to the Regionals.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 02, 2010, 04:02:01 PM
No way they are going to battle for the SCIAC Crashie. Come on Newbie. Lets be honest here, they took one game away from the Panthers, but, got worked. (not (by numbers, but by being outplayed is what i mean here)

Both Redlands, Cal Who and dare I even mention La Verne and the staggs stand in the way. There is just no way that with the loss of so many players the hens re-capture the SCIAC. Come on Newbie
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 02, 2010, 06:41:59 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on March 02, 2010, 04:02:01 PM
No way they are going to battle for the SCIAC Crashie. Come on Newbie. Lets be honest here, they took one game away from the Panthers, but, got worked. (not (by numbers, but by being outplayed is what i mean here)

Both Redlands, Cal Who and dare I even mention La Verne and the staggs stand in the way. There is just no way that with the loss of so many players the hens re-capture the SCIAC. Come on Newbie

Cal Lu- Not very good
La Verne- Not very good
Redlands- been pretty impressive so far
Pomona- One win vs. a good team
Whittier- god awful
Oxy- below average
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 03, 2010, 01:15:13 PM
Oh J.P. your breakdown of our SCIAc teams just made me chuckle.

Cal Lu is a much better team than P-P and have play well despite their record.
Redlands is slowly getting back up, just like they did last year
La Verne is actually doing well too, but have been out played on several key games.
The mighty hens are just to young and lost a lot
Whitter is creeping back dowing.
My Tigers!!!!! Come on now. They will do good this year
And I cant believe you left out the staggs. They have been doing well so far. Come on JP. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 03, 2010, 03:39:59 PM
What no love for Cal Tech...

Cal Lu is much better than their record indicates

Pomona is much better than people think.

Redlands may be the suprise of the SCIAC.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: C.M.Stag on March 04, 2010, 02:18:26 PM
The next two weeks will be a real test for the hens. We'll see if they come out as SCIAC contenders :

PP vs La Verne

PP vs CMS

Looking forward to an exciting Cal Lu - CMS series this weekend (if the weather cooperates)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 04, 2010, 11:51:40 PM
My weekend predictions-

Cal Lu takes 2 of 3 from CMS
Redlands sweeps Oxy
Whittier sweeps Cal Tech.....barely
P-P takes 2 of 3 from La Verne

I think the SCIAC is a 2-horse race with P-P and Redlands.  Redlands has played pretty darn well so far and P-P beat Chapman 1/3 in their only games against a team worth a crap.  La Verne is going to sneak some wins out because of their hard-nose attitude.  Whittier is just plain bad.  It looks like Oxy is close to getting their program turned around.  Cal Lu needs their pitching to works itself out and they need to hit in conference.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: C.M.Stag on March 05, 2010, 02:32:23 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 02, 2010, 06:41:59 PM

Cal Lu- Not very good
La Verne- Not very good
Redlands- been pretty impressive so far
Pomona- One win vs. a good team
Whittier- god awful
Oxy- below average

Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 04, 2010, 11:51:40 PM

I think the SCIAC is a 2-horse race with P-P and Redlands.  Redlands has played pretty darn well so far and P-P beat Chapman 1/3 in their only games against a team worth a crap.  La Verne is going to sneak some wins out because of their hard-nose attitude.  Whittier is just plain bad.  It looks like Oxy is close to getting their program turned around.  Cal Lu needs their pitching to works itself out and they need to hit in conference.

JP, it's starting to hurt my feelings when you leave the Stags out every time you talk about SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 05, 2010, 07:53:09 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 04, 2010, 11:51:40 PM
La Verne is going to sneak some wins out because of their hard-nose attitude. 

I the hard-nosed attitude meant anything in sports, Army would play for the national title every season in just about every sport. At some point you have to have the talent.

To quote, "It's not the Xs and Os... it's the Jimmys and Joes."
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 05, 2010, 04:07:29 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 04, 2010, 11:51:40 PM
My weekend predictions-

Cal Lu takes 2 of 3 from CMS
Redlands sweeps Oxy
Whittier sweeps Cal Tech.....barely
P-P takes 2 of 3 from La Verne

I think the SCIAC is a 2-horse race with P-P and Redlands.  Redlands has played pretty darn well so far and P-P beat Chapman 1/3 in their only games against a team worth a crap.  La Verne is going to sneak some wins out because of their hard-nose attitude.  Whittier is just plain bad.  It looks like Oxy is close to getting their program turned around.  Cal Lu needs their pitching to works itself out and they need to hit in conference.

CAL Who v.s the stags should be an interesting game to read and hear about. However, Im going with the who in taking 2 out of 3
Redlands continues to Roll, but will actually lose 2 out of three to my Tigers ((Hey, i can only be positive in thinking)
Poets get their 1st and only conference wins
And lastly, THe leopards take 2 away from the Young hens.

Double headers starting in several hrs. Hope to maybe catch the Puppy v.s Oxy game at Anderson field this afternoon.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on March 06, 2010, 07:57:44 AM
PP winning 1 from Chapman isn't a surprise...the surprise is that it came in a game that Colvin didn't pitch.

Anyhow, from Friday:
Redlands 4    Oxy 2
Whittier 20    Cal Tech 3
PP 3              La Verne 0
CMS 14         Cal Lu 10

CLU now 2-5 in league play.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 06, 2010, 10:31:05 AM
I know its early but I see PP and Redlands playing for the SCIAC title.

What happen to Cal Who ? It will be real tough to overcome 5 league losses at this point but it could still happen but they will have to get hot and string some SCIAC wins together and hope for some help.

I see Occidental, CMS and LaVerne playing spoiler roles and could figure in who wins the SCIAC...but beating PP or Redlands.... Whiitter may only beat Cal Tech this year in league....
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on March 06, 2010, 01:01:11 PM
Only thing working in Cal Lu's favor this year is the extra round of league games...otherwise, 5 league losses at this point would mean they would have to play perfect ball, or close to it, to have a shot in the end.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on March 06, 2010, 09:32:49 PM
Hens move to 9-0 in conference with a sweep of ULV.  After a pitcher's duel on Friday, a pair of slugfests on Saturday.  Big series next weekend with CMS.

Hens are 9-0, Redlands is 10-2 now...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 07, 2010, 12:25:46 PM
As i make my sandwhich full of crow for the afternoon's lunch (gosh i cant believe i had to write that), sounds like the Hens proved me wrong this weekend. Not only did they sweep the Leo's, but, the last game of the 3 game series was just a debacle for the Leps. In my years of watching or hearing Leo baseball I havent heard or even watched the Leo's give up this up match in a single game (20pts). Hats off to the Hens for their Big win against a real team. Lets just see if they can play real ball against the likes of the Hens, Pups and the Who.

Glad that Coach hawk has the Tigers playing Good baseball, but, a sweep is still a sweep. Congrats to the Pups and Stags on their big wins as well.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: C.M.Stag on March 12, 2010, 10:05:44 PM
Stags win series opener against PP, 5 - 0. CMS pitcher Alex Sunderland threw all nine. We'll see if the Stags can win a Saturday game, something they were not able to do against CLU or Redlands.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 14, 2010, 08:29:49 AM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on March 02, 2010, 04:02:01 PM
No way they are going to battle for the SCIAC Crashie. Come on Newbie. Lets be honest here, they took one game away from the Panthers, but, got worked. (not (by numbers, but by being outplayed is what i mean here)

Both Redlands, Cal Who and dare I even mention La Verne and the staggs stand in the way. There is just no way that with the loss of so many players the hens re-capture the SCIAC. Come on Newbie

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2009-10/standings
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 15, 2010, 11:44:15 AM
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2009-10/standings

TOP Teams in SCIAC March 15, 2010 (Conference/Overall Records)
Pomona-Pitzer(11-1) 13-5   
Redlands(10-2) 15-2   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on March 16, 2010, 11:39:08 PM
Yippy Ki yay.....great news for the mighty hens (sarcasim)

Lets see, 13 of those wins come from the Beaves (3), I hate to even type this (ugh) 3 from my Tigers, 3 from whitter, three from what I thought was a good Leo team and 2 from the Staggs.

Lets see how they really do against Pac Lu this week at the Classic (this week right), or how about Menlo (looks like the Oaks blasted on the Lutes not long ago and should be facing the hens this week too) (to bad these games aren't conference games. Redlands and Cal Lu soon. Hope they are ready for true test. So far they past several supposed test. I still pick the hens to finish 3rd.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 18, 2010, 10:44:04 AM
Redlands at this time looks like the top team in the SCIAC at 15-2 and one of the top teams in the West Region this season and looking at their schedule could be 25-2 when they face Pomona in April.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 18, 2010, 10:47:17 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 18, 2010, 10:44:04 AM
Redlands at this time looks like the top team in the SCIAC at 15-2 and one of the top teams in the West Region this season and looking at their schedule could be 25-2 when they face Pomona in April.

They are quickly moving up my radar screen...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 19, 2010, 03:52:25 PM
Menlo 9 Redlands 6
http://www.goredlands.com/sports/bsb/2009-10/stats/mc-ur.htm
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 19, 2010, 03:57:30 PM
Is Menlo better than advertised? They beat a 15-2 Redlands team and sweep three from a strong Pacific Lutheran team. So hard to get a read on them.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sagehenalum47 on March 20, 2010, 03:31:16 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 19, 2010, 03:57:30 PM
Is Menlo better than advertised? They beat a 15-2 Redlands team and sweep three from a strong Pacific Lutheran team. So hard to get a read on them.


Or is redlands worse than advertised? they have beaten nobody yet. La sierra, a mediocre CMS team, a mediocre la verne team, a struggling cal lu, and (sorry browneagle), a poor oxy team.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sagehenalum47 on March 20, 2010, 03:37:30 AM
i guess we'll find out tomorrow  ;D ;D

And how about this Kang guy?! Takes over at SS this year and is hitting over .450 with Hedman-like power (hit his 7th bomb today). i caught the wesleyan game and overheard that he he and his parents snuck out of north korea and immigrated to the USA when he was 4 years old, and now look at him. must be proud to see their boy living the american dream! and boy can he run!could there be interest from some major league scouts??
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 20, 2010, 07:29:39 AM
March 19, 2010 SCOREBOARD

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2009-10/schedule
Menlo  9  Redlands  6   
Puget Sound  10  La Verne  20 
Wesleyan (Conn.)  9  Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  15 
Ithaca  3  Pomona-Pitzer  4
Rutgers-Newark  17  Cal Lutheran  12 
Puget Sound  14  Redlands  18 
La Verne  4  Menlo  0     
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  7  Ithaca  4 
Wesleyan (Conn.)  12  Pomona-Pitzer  21 
Rutgers-Newark  22  Cal Lutheran  12 
Occidental  4  Chapman  6 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on March 22, 2010, 09:58:30 PM
Pomona beat Menlo (saved Colvin to start that one) and Whittier to go 4-0 on the weekend.

Looks like the Hens are very, very young this year.  Kang is one of the only seniors...and there are 4-5 freshman who start.  Lineup is shuffled to have Kang hit 3rd instead of leadoff, with freshmen hitting 1, 2 and 5.  A lot of pieces in place to be a force for years to come.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 26, 2010, 12:33:31 AM
Redlands(18-3) looks to have a easy time BEFORE they play Pomona which could be for the SCIAC Championship...

Mar. 26  Caltech *   3:00 PM   
Mar. 27  at Caltech *   11:00 AM   
Mar 27   at Caltech *   2:00 PM   
Apr. 2  at Whittier *   3:00 PM 
Apr. 3  Whittier *   11:00 AM   
Apr.3   Whittier *   2:30 PM   
 
Apr. 9  Pomona-Pitzer *          3:00 PM   
Apr. 10  at Pomona-Pitzer *   11:00 AM   
Apr. 10  at Pomona-Pitzer *   2:30 PM 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 26, 2010, 11:39:40 PM
I  noticed the past several games that one of Cal Lu's top hitter Jordan Ott has not played. Is he out injured or something else ?? Could be a big blow to Cal Lu making noise in the SCIAC...Just wondering....
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 28, 2010, 01:17:33 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 26, 2010, 11:39:40 PM
I  noticed the past several games that one of Cal Lu's top hitter Jordan Ott has not played. Is he out injured or something else ?? Could be a big blow to Cal Lu making noise in the SCIAC...Just wondering....


He must be hurt because he didn't play the entire series against LaVerne.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on March 30, 2010, 10:47:44 PM
CMS lost to Chapman 16-7 in non-conference action today in Orange.
Details at     chapmanathletics.com.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on April 01, 2010, 01:09:32 AM
La Verne lost to Chapman 11-2 on Wednesday night.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ppfan on April 02, 2010, 06:55:28 PM
Looks like no more live video coverage of Cal Lu games by kady.tv. Anyone have an update on the game?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: LA Mike on April 03, 2010, 05:54:08 PM
Friday
Pomona-Pitzer over Cal Lutheran   11-3
Saturday #1
Pomona-Pitzer over Cal Lutheran  6-5
Saturday #2
Just getting started............


U of Redlands has won the first two games over Whitter College

Back to the dugout........
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bluesagehen4747 on April 03, 2010, 08:17:18 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on March 02, 2010, 04:02:01 PM
No way they are going to battle for the SCIAC Crashie. Come on Newbie. Lets be honest here, they took one game away from the Panthers, but, got worked. (not (by numbers, but by being outplayed is what i mean here)

Both Redlands, Cal Who and dare I even mention La Verne and the staggs stand in the way. There is just no way that with the loss of so many players the hens re-capture the SCIAC. Come on Newbie

As a newbie myself, perhaps it is brash to comment on these words, but such overconfidence can hardly be ignored*. The hens pulled out the sweep of Cal Lutheran today (who had been riding high off of an intense sweep of La Verne that consisted of 3 one run games), winning by scores of 11-3, 6-5, and 8-4. That puts them at 17-1 in SCIAC having swept "Cal Who," La Verne, and with a series win over the "staggs." Of course, next weekend is the biggest weekend of them all as they go up against a very tough Redlands team. But regardless of the outcome, the hens certainly have proven they can battle for the SCIAC as it has turned into a 2 team race.

Again, I am quite aware that there is a lot of baseball to be played- and the hens proved two years ago that you can never be sure. But they certainly are looking strong. Rosetti (their 3 starter) is back on track, and Colvin and Brunswick continue to look good. Their offense, though young, has been putting up a lot of runs too.

Should be a great finish to the SCIAC season, especially with the PP-Redlands series, and then the new round-robin end of league play. Im excited!

*I do realize there was a later admission of wrongness, but its a reminder that making predictions about the future is always difficult and thus treating those predictions as fact is dangerous. While I am very impressed by the hens, as an outside observer I could never claim to know how the rest of the season will go, nor make fun of someone for disagreeing with me.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: LA Mike on April 04, 2010, 11:49:09 AM
P-P won the second game against Cal Lutheran 8-4.      23-5(17-1)
Redlands won their second game against Whittier also....   24-3 (16-2)

The sports journalists should plan to be at the games between Pomona-Pitzer and Redlands next weekend, the only story is who won !!!   

Last pitch............LA Mike

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 04, 2010, 12:02:05 PM
I expect both these teams to be in the West Regional in McMinnville, Oregon at Linfield College in May.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 05, 2010, 11:36:15 AM
SCIAC SHOWDOWN SERIES

April 9, 2010
Pomona-Pitzer(23-5) @ Redlands(24-3) 3:00 PM
http://livestats.prestosports.com/redlands/

April 10, 2010
Redlands(24-3)@ Pomona-Pitzer(23-5) @ 11:00 AM
Redlands(24-3)@ Pomona-Pitzer(23-5) @ 2:30 PM

Will the Saturday games be carried on Live Stats, or Twitter, or not at all ??
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 06, 2010, 10:30:52 PM
Great. Congrats to the Hens. Lets see how they do against the Puppies of UOR. Looks like they passed test one against the Who. As for the rest of the schedule.... yeah, I'll let you guys look over the schedule and see who they have played thus far. However, a win is a win. SO congrats.

Heres to the Pups and Hens series living to its expectations.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bluesagehen4747 on April 06, 2010, 11:44:37 PM
Quote from: Browneagle64 on April 06, 2010, 10:30:52 PM
Great. Congrats to the Hens. Lets see how they do against the Puppies of UOR. Looks like they passed test one against the Who. As for the rest of the schedule.... yeah, I'll let you guys look over the schedule and see who they have played thus far. However, a win is a win. SO congrats.

Heres to the Pups and Hens series living to its expectations.
I certainly agree with your hopes for a good series. And I think it will be- regardless of whoever comes out with it in the end (with the way these two teams are playing, I can't make a legitimate prediction right now- although I do believe it will be tough to beat Colvin).

As for the schedule, the Hens have played almost the same schedule as Redlands, except with the additional games of Chapman.

Comparing losses, the Hens have two to an NAIA school, two to Chapman, and one to CMS. Redlands has one to Menlo (who the Hens beat), one to CMS (same record as the Hens against them), and one to La Verne (who the Hens swept). So if you're implying that Redlands has a more impressive resume so far, I would disagree.

I do agree somewhat, however, that both teams have played relatively soft schedules. But given the dynamics of division 3 athletics, namely limited resources for travel, I don't see what else either team could have done to prevent that.

In the end, it all comes down to what happens this weekend, and the following three weekends. Kudos to both teams for putting themselves in such great positions right now and beating the teams they needed to beat to get there.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: LA Mike on April 07, 2010, 12:23:50 AM
The weekend prediction is a split (PP and Redlands), and then the Conference championship will come down to the additional single game (April 24th @ Redlands @ 1:00pm) during the final round of conference games. 

This 4th game with each team is something new this year, but a schedule format they did use about 6 or 8 years ago I was told....  Do you think it accomplishes a finish to the season or just mucks up the schedule with 3 or 4 games that are not high quality and therefore "fodder" for the polls to massage the polls ? -- For 2010 it is a round robin series, match up the schedule with the pitchers; go fast and turn left as they say in baseball and Indianapolis !!!! ................... It will be more than interesting.

It has been noted that the SCIAC teams do not get out of the area, and budgets are certainly one consideration -- but the teams played 28 games in conference, that only left a dozen slots on the schedule for other teams (3 to Chapman for competition purposes, 3-5 to start the season and 4-6 over spring break).  I know P-P only has travel resources for alternate years and I would expect that the other programs are similar.

Consistent winning results in the polls and regional playoffs to take the W.S. will keep the eyes and ears of the voters looking over their shoulders to the west.

The catcher is tapping his glove -- back to work !!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 2ndsacker on April 08, 2010, 07:14:24 PM
looks like a fun weekend for the bulldogs and the hens.both teams seem to be pretty equal.
this weekend should go a long way to determine the league champs. will home field advantage
help out the hens? the bulldogs would appear to have the advantage once colvin has pitched.
good luck to both teams . have fun.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on April 09, 2010, 08:24:35 PM
How does one split a three-game series?
Anyhow, PP 9 Redlands 2 Final in Game 1...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on April 09, 2010, 09:33:08 PM
Called off due to weather, etc.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ppfm on April 09, 2010, 09:43:13 PM
Great baseball today between the hens and the puppies.  Colvin pitched a masterpiece, two homeruns from junior Teddy Bingham,  good offense all the way around.  Clearly two well matched teams.  Tomorrow will be just as much fun!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: LA Mike on April 09, 2010, 10:44:32 PM
When I posted a split, I did not suggest it was split evenly, just not a sweep by either team.  I should have been more precise with the signs to the pitcher ----
                      split P-P with 2 wins, UR with 1 win. 

Pomona scored in 7 of the 9 innings, mixed up the speed on the bases (stole 3 bases) and Colvin pitched like he was on a mission.

I will shake off the pitch, I have re-called a new pitch and let's play ball again tomorrow. 

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: beachlover on April 10, 2010, 11:55:43 PM
Heard  that the Pups swept the Hens today on the Hens home field.  6-2, 7-2, but I could be incorrect on the score. 

If so, what are the post season ramifications? 

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 11, 2010, 12:42:25 AM
Quote from: beachlover on April 10, 2010, 11:55:43 PM
Heard  that the Pups swept the Hens today on the Hens home field.  6-2, 7-2, but I could be incorrect on the score. 

If so, what are the post season ramifications? 
I think that the SCIAC gets a Pool C bid.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on April 11, 2010, 09:29:37 AM
Quote from: beachlover on April 10, 2010, 11:55:43 PM
Heard  that the Pups swept the Hens today on the Hens home field.  6-2, 7-2, but I could be incorrect on the score. 

If so, what are the post season ramifications? 



Both teams are 18-3 in conference, but Redlands currently owns the tiebreaker.  Teams will play once more (both have 7 conference games left)

PP draws a lucky break and plays Redlands the same weekend as they play CalTech, so Colvin can definitely pitch.  Both teams should be in good shape for NCAAs unless they drop a few unexpected games in the last round of league play.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 11, 2010, 09:31:18 AM
Redlands and Pomona will definitely both get bids. Both are playing outstanding baseball this season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ECSUalum on April 11, 2010, 06:52:18 PM
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO REDLANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Time to give the Chapmysters a run for their money!!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 2ndsacker on April 12, 2010, 11:09:22 AM
we had the advantage of watching all 3 games between the bulldogs and the hens this weekend.friday it appeared that redlands just did not want to face colvin .he pitched  very well and held the bulldogs in check.aided by 2 homeruns by junior 3 rd. baseman bingham .it turned out to be no contest. however,sat. the bulldogs came out snarling and biting and out played the hens in every facet of the game all day.the bulldogs refused to let fridays debacle get to them and hats off to them.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: redbull on April 12, 2010, 01:03:12 PM
Quote from: 2ndsacker on April 12, 2010, 11:09:22 AM
we had the advantage of watching all 3 games between the bulldogs and the hens this weekend.friday it appeared that redlands just did not want to face colvin .he pitched  very well and held the bulldogs in check.aided by 2 homeruns by junior 3 rd. baseman bingham .it turned out to be no contest. however,sat. the bulldogs came out snarling and biting and out played the hens in every facet of the game all day.the bulldogs refused to let fridays debacle get to them and hats off to them.

I saw all 3 games as well.  Colvin did pitch very well.  He has a terrific presence on the mound and has that "in control" manner about him.  I give him all the credit and he deserved to win.

From my admittedly Redlands perspective, I disagree that Redlands "just did not want to face him" though.  I thought Redlands hit him every bit as hard as Pomona hit Michael Lessig, the Redlands starter.  Redlands made 3 errors early that cost them momentum and confidence.  I think Redlands will look forward to facing him again in their final matchup on April 24th.  Colvin's not unbeatable.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 12, 2010, 03:00:47 PM
David Colvin 6-2 1.83 ERA 64 IP 72K .211 BA

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on April 12, 2010, 05:01:54 PM
Confratulations to the Puppies on their recent wins of the Hens this past weekend.
Although the mighty nuggets have proven me wrong in their current standing, they sure should get a mention about their first win on friday.

As I had suspected at the start of the year, the puppies looked like they just had more power to them, even after they lost a big game on friday. However, I did not expect that once again as we draw to the end of the season that these games will once again really matter on who will reach for the top of the SCIAC. Like previous year, both teams aimming for the Top seem to get side-lined by the bottom fedders in the quest for a crown/ tourney bid in Oregon. Yet, it will make things much for interesting as this is the area where the Puppies always have seemed to struggle (staying on top at the very end)

p.s. Did I just read an above prediction about how there should have been a split in a 3 game Puppy v.s Hens game. LMAO. Just Joking 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: LA Mike on April 13, 2010, 12:07:50 AM
I do not know if someone is trying to get my goat with the comments about the split of the games between Pomona-Pitzer and Redlands.  If it is not split between the two teams how do you describe an outcome where one team won one game and the other team one two games?  A semi-sweep?  Or like one article headlined the wins by Redlands -- "They sweep the Hens"  and in the article it is noted that they swept the two games on Saturday........... I guess they could have "split the series on Saturday".......

If I remember correctly, PP was predicted to be a 4th place program, and here they are 10 weeks into the season, tied in the conference championship race, ranked on two national polls, and playing great team baseball.  Yes I am a huge Hens fan, but Redlands is a class program from the coaches to the players. 

Enough-- the games were really good games by both teams, better for the winners I am sure.  PP hit the ball hard all day Saturday; into double plays, into line drive-fly-ball outs -- UR hit the ball into the gaps for runs.  The pitching for PP had a few mistakes in both games that UR did not miss and UR pitchers did a good job of keeping their pitching mistakes to a  minimum.   That is the the glory of baseball, and we will see quality team performances on April 24th in the final meeting between these two teams.  The Champion will have to run the table to keep control of their own fate to the playoffs.  That is something neither team did the first time through the SCIAC games.   The gamble of a "C" berth to the playoffs through the NCAA selection process is something that no tam wants to take.

Best of luck to both teams over the next 3 weeks, a strategy-- hit it hard, go fast and turn left.   To those on the Message Board -- I have ice on the arm for one more day, because it is so cool !!!!!!!!!!! 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: redbull on April 13, 2010, 10:36:14 AM
Quote from: LA Mike on April 13, 2010, 12:07:50 AM
I do not know if someone is trying to get my goat with the comments about the split of the games between Pomona-Pitzer and Redlands.  If it is not split between the two teams how do you describe an outcome where one team won one game and the other team one two games?  A semi-sweep?  Or like one article headlined the wins by Redlands -- "They sweep the Hens"  and in the article it is noted that they swept the two games on Saturday........... I guess they could have "split the series on Saturday".......

If I remember correctly, PP was predicted to be a 4th place program, and here they are 10 weeks into the season, tied in the conference championship race, ranked on two national polls, and playing great team baseball.  Yes I am a huge Hens fan, but Redlands is a class program from the coaches to the players. 

Enough-- the games were really good games by both teams, better for the winners I am sure.  PP hit the ball hard all day Saturday; into double plays, into line drive-fly-ball outs -- UR hit the ball into the gaps for runs.  The pitching for PP had a few mistakes in both games that UR did not miss and UR pitchers did a good job of keeping their pitching mistakes to a  minimum.   That is the the glory of baseball, and we will see quality team performances on April 24th in the final meeting between these two teams.  The Champion will have to run the table to keep control of their own fate to the playoffs.  That is something neither team did the first time through the SCIAC games.   The gamble of a "C" berth to the playoffs through the NCAA selection process is something that no tam wants to take.

Best of luck to both teams over the next 3 weeks, a strategy-- hit it hard, go fast and turn left.   To those on the Message Board -- I have ice on the arm for one more day, because it is so cool !!!!!!!!!!! 

LA Mike

Great job. 

PP is a class program as well and there's a lot of mutual respect between these two teams and among the fans. Redlands was a pre-season afterthought in most minds and not expected to be a serious contender in the SCIAC.  Yet, at 26-4, the Bulldogs have finally earned some respect and belated national attention.  Hopefully, some of these kids will get some individual attention as many of them are having great seasons.

I saw Redlands loss Friday much the same way you describe Pomona's troubles on Saturday - line drives at people, double plays, etc.  I guess we see things the way we choose to see them.

Both these teams can compete with anybody.  Should be a great finish to the season.  Good luck.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: LA Mike on April 16, 2010, 09:39:02 PM
Game one of the Round Robin:
Redlands (19-3) over La Verne    14-6
P-P (19-3) over Whittier               15-1
CLU  over  Oxy                               7-2
CMS  over  CT                              15-3

Saturday matchups:
Redlands and CLU    [audio @ 1pm]
P-P and CMS
LV  and Whittier   [livestats @ 1pm]
Oxy and Cal Tech

Sunday games:
Redlands and Oxy
P-P and La Verne
CLU and CMS
Whittier and Cal Tech
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: LA Mike on April 17, 2010, 10:18:09 PM
What a day.......

Cal LU  over  URedlands   5-2
CMS  over  P-P   11-1
ULV  over WhitterC    20-3
OxyC  over Cal Tech   15-5

We still have a tie in the SCIAC ---- for now !   I did not see the games but the Cal LU and Redlands game seems to have been a thriller with Redlands ending the game with the bases loaded..........  P-P was leading 1-0 at one point but ended up losing by a good hitting team.

Chapman lost to Linfield twice (Fri. and Sat. 1st game)  Chapman won the 2nd game 5-2.  Forth game of the trip between Linfield and Chapman on Sunday at noon.

I will hit the water and re-hydrate for Sunday Night.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: LA Mike on April 18, 2010, 07:47:36 PM
WOW---- what a day.

Cal LU over CMS  7-2                Cal LU finished the weekend 3-0 / CMS  2-1
WhittierC  over Cal Tech  18-7     Whittier  1-2  /  Cal Tech  0-3
P-P  over U LV  14-10               P-P finished the weekend  2-1 /  U LV  1-2
OxyC  over Redlands  6-3        Redlands finished the weekend  1-2  /  Oxy  2-1

Any team can best any other team on any given day if they are playing great and the other team lets off just a little.  Redlands had 2 errors allowing 4 runs in the bottom of the 8th,  just a big OOPS.   (UR had 4 errors total in the game)

SCIAC
P-P  20-4
Redlands 19-5
CLU  16-8
U LV   14-10
CMS   12-12
OccC   10-14
WhitC    5-19
Cal Tech  0-24

We will see if this format [with the additional round robin at the end of the schedule] flies for next year............. nothing is guaranteed at this point.  The weekend is over, finally.

Look for revised rankings in both polls this week and I believe that the first Regional Standings Poll shows up on Thursday.............

The bus ride is a short one, and thank goodness there is no volcano ash to damage the exhaust system on the bus, out  !!!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 18, 2010, 08:51:13 PM
Hmmm,

Redlands won the PP series last weekend, but had a rough week this weekend.  Looks like a little bit of a letdown in a rough conference schedule.

Not trying to sound trite, but the SCIAC is one of the 15-20 conferences that are gauntlets.  Yeah, there are some teams that may be having rough seasons, but you can never let up!

It looks like the voters were justified to vote PP and Redlands roughly the same.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sagehenalum47 on April 18, 2010, 10:41:43 PM
wow, what a weekend ! ;D ;D this makes for a huuge game between Redlands and PP next saturday. If Redlands wins, it wins the season series 3-1 and controls its own destiny to win SCIAC. If PP wins, the season series is split 2-2 and PP is up 2 games with 2 to play. What is the next tiebreaker after head-to-head? Run differential? A playoff? Will PP have clinched by winning vs. redlands?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 20, 2010, 06:20:09 PM
SCIAC has 4 teams that have reached 20 wins in 2010. Claremont is 2 wins shy to make the 20 win club. Not bad for 8 team conference.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bluesagehen4747 on April 24, 2010, 10:43:03 PM
In the biggest SCIAC game of the year, Pomona-Pitzer beat Redlands handily 14-5. PP jumped out to a 10-1 lead after 3 innings, and burned through all three of Redland's starting pitchers.
What does this mean for SCIAC?
PP is now ahead 2 1/2 games on Redlands. Pomona has two left (Cal Lu Friday, Oxy Saturday), and Redlands has three (CMS tomorrow, Cal Tech and Whittier next weekend). A Redlands loss tomorrow gives Pomona the title, and a win by the hens against either CLU or Oxy does the same. Redlands has now lost 3 in a row, and CMS is playing well. Redlands will have a tough one tomorrow to stay alive.

Another big question, assuming the Hens can win a game (which is definitely not 100%, anything can happen in baseball and especially SCIAC), what does Redlands have to do to get an at-large bid? They've been stumbling, but I assume winning out in SCIAC and then winning a series against Chapman will be enough. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 24, 2010, 10:44:04 PM
Three straight Redlands losses before the Chapman series!

Redlands is dropping in the West Region.  Chapman needs the Redlands wins to earn the #1 seed.

The Regional Rankings will help us see where Redlands stands.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ppfm on April 25, 2010, 01:18:43 AM
PP seems to have a lot of unexpected depth in its lineup which should do them well in their last games as well as at the regionals.  While the young players are really "stepping to the plate," it is also good to note that their older players  add some fundamental wisdom and talent to the mix.   While Redlands burned their three starters in today's game, some of PP's talent wasn't used in the game but they will have lots to contribute when they are needed.   


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: LA Mike on April 25, 2010, 06:56:50 PM
Sunday wants to be some-other day (or "smother day") for Redlands.  Redlands lost to CMS  11-4, with Johnson getting a second loss for the weekend. 

Cal LU is down in the 6th by a couple of runs to Chapman 

The loss by Redlands clinches the SCIAC championship for Pomona-Pitzer (up by 3 with 2 to go).  Redlands with 4 losses going into a 3 game Chapman series will make it interesting (all games audio or live stats next weekend-- go to Chapman schedule and connect).

Pomona has next weekend to meet Cal LU in Thousand Oaks on Friday and Occidental at home on Saturday to finish the regular season.

Linfield has won 2 (so far), but Pac. Lutheran won their 3 games.  Next weekend for Linfield-- they have to take 2 of 3 from Pac. LU to win the NWC--------all this to ask "where will the Pool C bid come from ????"   NWC or SCIAC ????

Stay tuned to the new collegiate soap opera "As The NCAA Turns the West Region".  Conf. Standings =

                  conf     overall     next weekend
Pomona-Pitzer     22-4      28-8    [Cal LU and Occidental]
Redlands          19-7      27-8    [Whittier and Cal Tech]
Cal LU            18-8      25-12   [Pomona-P and Univ.LaV]
Univ. La Verne    15-11
CMS               14-12
Occidental        11-15
Whittier           5-21
Cal Tech           0-26

I will put the remote control down for div 3 baseball and leave the locker room for the next few days. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 26, 2010, 02:23:33 AM
I see Redlands getting swept by Chapman and ending up with 11 regional losses.  Will they hav eenough to make the regional?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 26, 2010, 02:25:09 AM
Also, why is Johnson even throwing for Redlands after starting on Saturday?  Are they that thin on pitching?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ppfm on April 26, 2010, 07:31:41 AM
Redlands threw all three of their starters on Saturday against PP knowing that the game was critical.   Not sure of pitch counts but each guy threw a couple of innings
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just_Some_Guy on April 26, 2010, 08:45:42 AM
Quote from: LA Mike on April 25, 2010, 06:56:50 PM

Linfield has won 2 (so far), but Pac. Lutheran won their 3 games.  Next weekend for Linfield-- they have to take 2 of 3 from Pac. LU to win the NWC--------all this to ask "where will the Pool C bid come from ????"   NWC or SCIAC ????


If Redlands struggles with Chapman, I feel like it comes from the NWC, but I don't know that you can count out the ASC either if someone other than Mississippi College wins the ASC tournament. Their in-region record is pretty impressive as well.

JSG
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 26, 2010, 11:39:34 AM
SCIAC now has 5 teams that have won 20 or more games this season... ;D

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2009-10/standings
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SCIAC FAN! on April 26, 2010, 03:59:46 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 26, 2010, 02:25:09 AM
Also, why is Johnson even throwing for Redlands after starting on Saturday?  Are they that thin on pitching?


With this being my first post on this site, I have been around SCIAC for many years and have no particular team in the league, I just enjoy good baseball and have not been disappointed this year!!

To answer your question Jack, Johnson only threw 2 innings on Saturday's game and like mentioned all of the starters were used in that game (b/c of the importance of the game).  Claremont's game was also important for redlands, so why not go back to the guy who has been dominate all year for the dogs.  Seeing every team play this year I'd say redlands has the three best overall starters as a rotation obviously colvin has been dominate and is probably the best in league, but one pitcher cant do it all (luckily pomona has a lethal lineup to add some run support).  Recently the I'd say pretty dominate dogs most of the year have been having some rough patches both on the mound and at the plate, unfortunate timing for them but congrats to Pomona for clinching the title back to back years. ;D ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 01, 2010, 02:39:44 AM
What happen in the SCIAC yesterday.....

Whittier over Redlands
Cal Lu over Pomona

April  30  
Redlands  4  Whittier  5    
Pomona-Pitzer  7  Cal Lutheran  11  
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 01, 2010, 01:28:29 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on May 01, 2010, 02:39:44 AM
What happen in the SCIAC yesterday.....

Whittier over Redlands
Cal Lu over Pomona

April  30  
Redlands  4  Whittier  5    
Pomona-Pitzer  7  Cal Lutheran  11  
That is an ugly "Pool C" loss for Redlands, and PP just dropped in the Regional Rankings.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on May 01, 2010, 04:11:56 PM
Not a SCIAC school, but for those interested, Chapman over U of Dallas 11-1 in first game of twin-bill.
Games against Dallas and Redlands next week could have SCIAC implications for seeding.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on May 07, 2010, 09:16:35 PM
Friday result from Redlands, Chapman 28-9 over Redlands. Twin bill at Chapman on Saturday. Redlands needs  to sweep to stay in contention for Pool C bid.
Title: any news if cal lu has achance? thanks
Post by: clu fan on May 09, 2010, 01:23:19 AM
Please help cal lu fan. Any news if cal lu has a chance at any regionals ? Im new to d3 baseball .It seems they are the hottest team right now in the sciac. Thanks for the help
Title: Re: any news if cal lu has achance? thanks
Post by: dahlby on May 09, 2010, 02:28:45 AM
clu fan, May I be the first to welcome you to the boards. IMHO I would have to say it's doubtful.
Title: Re: any news if cal lu has achance? thanks
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2010, 10:23:03 AM
Quote from: clu fan on May 09, 2010, 01:23:19 AM
Please help cal lu fan. Any news if cal lu has a chance at any regionals ? Im new to d3 baseball .It seems they are the hottest team right now in the sciac. Thanks for the help
To affirm what dahlby said, welcome aboard.

According to the Terms of Service, I will merge this topic into SCIAC board.


Quote
4. No one team needs a conversation of its own. If there is already a conversation about that team's conference, I will remove the new conversation. If there is no conversation about that team's conference, I will rename the new conversation to make it more inclusive.

Glad to have new posters checking.  The baseball boards keep going strong into June.

Also, please join us on the Football and Soccer boards next fall.   :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on May 26, 2010, 02:56:17 PM
Very honorable season for the Pitz guys....

http://www.d3baseball.com/all-american/d3baseball-allamericans-2010.pdf (http://www.d3baseball.com/all-american/d3baseball-allamericans-2010.pdf)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ppfm on June 09, 2010, 08:48:16 PM
Congratulations to James Kang, Pomona Pitzer shortstop who was drafted by the Boston Red Sox in round 45!  He has been such a significant presence on the team, as well as a truly great young man with deep leadership skills.  He follows the strong legacy left by Drew Hedman (drafted last year by the Red Sox and now playing High A on the Salem, VA Red Sox).  And don't worry---there are others presently on the team who will continue a great tradition.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on August 13, 2010, 08:01:16 PM
Chapman and SCIAC ???
http://www.highlandnews.net/articles/2010/08/12/sports/doc4c647c41604c5142467685.txt
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 16, 2010, 09:26:33 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on August 13, 2010, 08:01:16 PM
Chapman and SCIAC ???
http://www.highlandnews.net/articles/2010/08/12/sports/doc4c647c41604c5142467685.txt
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What did it say?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on September 16, 2010, 11:46:30 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 16, 2010, 09:26:33 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on August 13, 2010, 08:01:16 PM
Chapman and SCIAC ???
http://www.highlandnews.net/articles/2010/08/12/sports/doc4c647c41604c5142467685.txt
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What did it say?
On the date I put the link up it was available to view for free. It has gone to archive and it now costs.

It was one persons view on why Chapman will never be in the SCIAC...many others share that same view.although it makes no logical sense....

3 West D3 independents have left the NCAA, Menlo, Cal State East Bay and La Sierra...That being said that is 6 in region games lost to Chapman..The SCIAC also went to 4 game series inside the SCIAC for baseball...This also results in less games for Chapman with SCIAC teams and less in region games.....Along with this the Pool B shrinks each year....6 to 4 to ?

It makes sense for Chapman to join the SCIAC....The SCIAC gets penalized with poor SOS when playing Cal Tech but gains when playing Chapman...This hurts SCIAC Pool C bids..Its it fear of competion.....dont think so...Pomona, Redlands, Cal Lu all play Chapman tough and compete,,,,,Occidental, Whittier,La Verne,Claremont all have got wins over Chapman over the years......
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on October 26, 2010, 12:03:00 AM
2011 SCIAC BASEBALL SCHEDULE
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2010-11/schedule

2011 Team near Disneyland BASEBALL SCHEDULE BUT NOT IN SCIAC
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2010-11/schedule
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on October 26, 2010, 02:04:31 PM
October 26, 2010

Chapman applies for admission to SCIAC

Will SCIAC vote Chapman In or out ?

OXYBOB will vote NO....

Crash votes YES  

The shrinking number of independent teams in D3 especially the West Region has made this a necessity. Cal State East Bay went to D2, Menlo, La Sierra all went to NAIA. University of Dallas to join SCAC Conference in 2012.

http://static.psbin.com/j/q/y1lynr7rkwoj53/CU_Membership_App_Release_10.25.10.pdf

http://www.chapmanathletics.com/information/releases/1026

Chapman was in the SCIAC Before.
1950   Chapman College begins competition as an associate member in baseball, basketball and tennis
1952   Chapman's association ends
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: El Hombre on October 27, 2010, 12:07:42 AM
Questions to all . . .
(1)  What are the advantages or disadvantages for a school to stay Independent?
(2)  What is the advantage for Chapman to join the SCIAC?
(3)  Is it beneficial for the SCIAC to accept Chapman?  If not, why?

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on October 27, 2010, 01:12:07 AM
Quote from: El Hombre on October 27, 2010, 12:07:42 AM
Questions to all . . .
(1)  What are the advantages or disadvantages for a school to stay Independent?
(2)  What is the advantage for Chapman to join the SCIAC?
(3)  Is it beneficial for the SCIAC to accept Chapman?  If not, why?



Questions to all . . .
(1)  What are the advantages or disadvantages for a school to stay Independent?
Freedom to not schedule weaker teams. Difficult to fill schedule with local D3 schools.
Each year becomes more difficult to reach playoffs as a independent team since
they get no automatic playoff bids like most conferences winners do in D3.
No guarantee they will win the SCIAC or get a playoff bid. The SCIAC has some very good
teams and do beat Chapman several times each year.

(2)  What is the advantage for Chapman to join the SCIAC?
More games will be scheduled with local D3 Schools. Less games will be needed with non D3 schools.
Less travel to fill in full schedule of games.

(3)  Is it beneficial for the SCIAC to accept Chapman?
Will strengthen the conference. A natural fit with other schools. Chapman already plays
most SCIAC schools several times a year. Several existing rivalries will be strenghten
with more games. More competition for both Chapman and other SCIAC teams. All teams
in SCIAC are located within reasonable driving distances for games. Several teams have left
D3 in CA. Cal State East Bay, Menlo College and La Sierra. Also Independent D3 University of
Dallas also is joining a conference in the future. So less teams for Chapman to play that
they have played in past years.

If not, why?
Someone with the history of WHY Chapman left the SCIAC in 1952 and was not allowed back in
since then will need to be answered by people who have been around the SCIAC for a while.
I have heard there have been reasons/issues in the past but I have no knowledge of what
those were. Hopefully all have been resolved because it would great to see Chapman
join the SCIAC conference.

These comments are my own personal opinion only !!. I can not speak for others
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: utilitycat17 on October 28, 2010, 05:59:57 PM
Quote from: El Hombre on October 27, 2010, 12:07:42 AM
Questions to all . . .
(1)  What are the advantages or disadvantages for a school to stay Independent?
(2)  What is the advantage for Chapman to join the SCIAC?
(3)  Is it beneficial for the SCIAC to accept Chapman?  If not, why?

Chapman joining the SCIAC for baseball is not really a good thing for anyone.  The current schools would likely not be happy, and Chapman loses their flexibility.  They used to be able to avoid the 6 games against Cal Tech and Oxy, although they have been playing Oxy lately because they have elevated their game some.  Chapman also would have to win the SCIAC now to make the playoffs, or get lucky with a pool C bid.  They would not have made the playoffs 2 years ago if this would have been the case, and they finished 3rd at the World Series that year.  However, this is not really a baseball decision.  Chapman Baseball has been fine as an Independent, and will probably be mostly unchanged in the SCIAC, if accepted.  This is for the other sports programs at Chapman.  The Basketball team can't find anyone to play them and Football would benefit from a conference schedule.  The thought is the entire athletic program would be more credible if it were in a conference.

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on October 27, 2010, 01:12:07 AM
If not, why?
Someone with the history of WHY Chapman left the SCIAC in 1952 and was not allowed back in
since then will need to be answered by people who have been around the SCIAC for a while.
I have heard there have been reasons/issues in the past but I have no knowledge of what
those were. Hopefully all have been resolved because it would great to see Chapman
join the SCIAC conference.

I don't know for certain what happened in 1952, but I do know that Chapman has been a member of almost every conceivable division of the NCAA in that time frame.  They likely left the SCIAC for another division.  As for why they haven't been accepted to the SCIAC since they have been a member of D3, it has always been my understanding that it was because of the school's academic standards.  The SCIAC didn't think Chapman was at the same academic level as the other schools.  Chapman has been improving in that area year by year.  They must feel the time was right to try this again.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on October 28, 2010, 06:29:17 PM
For Baseball is advantage today being independent making the playoffs as a independent Pool B bid. It is less difficult than trying to win a conference Pool A or at large bid of Pool C. In 2011 it appears they will be about 27 teams in pool B with 3 spots. Chapman would need to finish in the top 3 to make the playoffs in 2011. In past years the Pool B teams have not been as strong as Pool C and Pool A teams overall. So it will become more difficult for Chapman to reach the playoffs as a SCIAC conference team. The year they finished 3rd in the nation in 2009 they would have missed the playoffs as a 4th place team in the SCIAC.

Scheduling games for other sports has become very difficult in recent years though not being part of a conference.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 28, 2010, 08:43:21 PM
Chapman has a problem with scheduling in all sports.

I think that Chapman must consider D-II, if they cannot get into the SCIAC.

As mentioned above, everyone else has left D-III, CSU-East Bay, Menlo, LaSierra.  UDallas is moving to the SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on October 29, 2010, 12:45:59 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 28, 2010, 08:43:21 PM
Chapman has a problem with scheduling in all sports.

I think that Chapman must consider D-II, if they cannot get into the SCIAC.

As mentioned above, everyone else has left D-III, CSU-East Bay, Menlo, LaSierra.  UDallas is moving to the SCIAC.

I think whatever issues that kept Chapman out of the SCIAC before may have been resolved otherwise I do not think they would have applied unless they thought they had a good chance of being accepted into the SCIAC Conference. This conference has existed since 1915. SCIAC Conference History
http://www.thesciac.org/information/about/index

Chapman has been playing SCIAC teams since the 1920's. Prior to 1994 Chapman played at the DII level
and moved to DIII in 1994. I do not think Chapman will ever consider going back to DII.

Chapman's baseball has won National championships in 1968 (DII) and 2003(DIII).

Chapman in prior years played 3 game series with Cal State East Bay and Menlo College which they no longer play since both schools moved out of DIII.  Chapman has in the past played in the College Division(Small College), DII and DIII.

Chapman has played games with schools at the DI, DII, DII, NAIA and University Division(Major College), College(Small College) Division schools in baseball in prior years
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on October 29, 2010, 09:34:37 AM
If they are left out of the SCIAC there best bet would be to join the NAIA's Golden State Athletic Conference (GSAC). Like the rest of that league, they are a small, private school and they already play many of the schools for baseball. That entire conference is within a two hour drive of Chapman, unlike the D2 schools, some of which are 5-6 hour drive (Somoma State, Chico State, San Fran State, etc).
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on October 29, 2010, 11:53:15 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on October 29, 2010, 09:34:37 AM
If they are left out of the SCIAC there best bet would be to join the NAIA's Golden State Athletic Conference (GSAC). Like the rest of that league, they are a small, private school and they already play many of the schools for baseball. That entire conference is within a two hour drive of Chapman, unlike the D2 schools, some of which are 5-6 hour drive (Somoma State, Chico State, San Fran State, etc).

The entire GSAC conference may move to D2 from NAIA.

http://gsacsports.org/wordpress/?p=1817

I seriously doubt Chapman will leave D3.  It will be better to see the GSAC move to D3 baseball and it would then also be a perfect fit for Chapman. Chapman already plays several NAIA schools already. Pt. Loma, San Marcos, Westmont, Azusa Pacific, are some of the schools that have played Chapman more recently. Other NAIA schools close byto Chapman include Vanguard, Biola, Corcordi-Irvine
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: utilitycat17 on October 29, 2010, 11:56:05 AM
I don't see Chapman leaving D3 under any circumstance.  If they don't get into the SCIAC there's no reason why they would try to go NAIA or D2.  Chapman's President Doti is a big believer in having a football program for the school.  The reason Chapman went D3 when it did was so it could have a football program.  They could not afford to have a football program with the scholarships that come with that.  Chapman will not be moving to a division with scholarships as long as Doti is around.  To my knowledge this is not the first time Chapman has applied to the SCIAC either.  This is just the first time in a few years, and they posted it on their website.  
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: utilitycat17 on October 29, 2010, 12:11:42 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 28, 2010, 08:43:21 PM
UDallas is moving to the SCIAC.

They'll have to change the name of the conference.  Instead of the (SCIAC) Southern California Interscholastic Athletic Conference they could try the (SCaOSfTIAC) Southern California and One School from Texas Interscholastic Athletic Conference. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on October 29, 2010, 12:19:09 PM
Quote from: utilitycat17 on October 29, 2010, 12:11:42 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 28, 2010, 08:43:21 PM
UDallas is moving to the SCIAC.

They'll have to change the name of the conference.  Instead of the (SCIAC) Southern California Interscholastic Athletic Conference they could try the (SCaOSfTIAC) Southern California and One School from Texas Interscholastic Athletic Conference.  

Looks like a typo
The Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference (SCAC) announced  that the University of Dallas has accepted an invitation to join the Conference. Currently a Division III independent, Dallas will join the SCAC at the beginning of the 2011-12 academic year.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on October 29, 2010, 01:14:08 PM
I don't see the NAIA GSAC leaving for D2 either. The entire conference fares very well on the national level in just about every sport. It is the nation's premier NAIA basketball (men's and women'), softball, and volleyball conference. Not to mention many of the NAIA's top Soccer, Cross-country, Volleyball and Track programs. Very few of the schools field a football team.

On the other hand, when I was coaching in the GSAC, I often lost recruits that I offered partial scholarships to when a SCIAC or D2 state schools school offered an incredible financial aid package and made it cheaper to attend a D3/D2 school than an NAIA school on a partial scholarship.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on October 30, 2010, 05:20:52 AM
I am predicting Chapman will be accepted in April for the SCIAC for the 2011-2012 season.

Here is some background leading up to this.

Chapman was formerly in the DII CCCA conference at one time prior to joining the NCAA DIII as a independent. No teams play football in the DII CCCA Conference and Chapman does. So it is not a fit and cost with required athletic scholarships is not a fit for Chapman. Here is the history of teams who have played in the CCCA
http://www.goccaa.org/sports/2006/8/10/leaguehistory.aspx?

Chapman also is not a fit to the NAIA GSAC conference either. GSAC does not play football and they offer athletic scholarships. Members listed here.
http://www.goccaa.org/sports/2006/8/10/leaguehistory.aspx?

Also more NAIA GSAC to DII news.
http://chimes.biola.edu/content/article/2010/may/12/schools-consider-divisionII/
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: El Hombre on October 30, 2010, 09:37:51 PM
Having read all the input regarding Chapman joining the SCIAC conference, it raises a question.  Can a school join a conference for all sports but one?  I see the benefits for sports such as football and basketball, however I also understand the arguments for baseball staying independent.  Therefore, could Chapman join the SCIAC for al sports except baseball?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on October 30, 2010, 10:01:17 PM
I would guessing it is all or nothing thing this time around BUT back in 1950 Chapman was a member of the SCIAC for the following sports for a very short time. But it has been playing SCIAC teams since the 1920's in baseball.

1925--- Chapman's win over Redlands was the first victory over any college in the Southern California Conference, which later became the S.C.I.A.C.

SCIAC CONFERENCE History
1950   Chapman College begins competition as an associate in baseball, basketball and tennis
1952   Chapman's association ends
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on November 21, 2010, 09:00:21 PM
Pomona-Pitzer went independent in football for a few years starting in the mid 90s...supposedly because the team's roster size was too low to be competitive through a conference schedule.  This left the SCIAC with 6 football teams (no Cal Tech either, but they have no varsity football)  The irony is that on the strength of some really good recruiting classes (Jack Ramirez & others), the Hens fielded some really good teams as an independent and would have been very competitive in SCIAC those years.  I think there was a one loss season where the only loss was to Azusa Pacific, etc.

Chapman joining SCIAC would make an already strong baseball conference even better.   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on November 21, 2010, 10:06:49 PM
Quote from: pomonaalum on November 21, 2010, 09:00:21 PM
Pomona-Pitzer went independent in football for a few years starting in the mid 90s...supposedly because the team's roster size was too low to be competitive through a conference schedule.  This left the SCIAC with 6 football teams (no Cal Tech either, but they have no varsity football)  The irony is that on the strength of some really good recruiting classes (Jack Ramirez & others), the Hens fielded some really good teams as an independent and would have been very competitive in SCIAC those years.  I think there was a one loss season where the only loss was to Azusa Pacific, etc.

Chapman joining SCIAC would make an already strong baseball conference even better.  
Chapman in the SCIAC in baseball will indeed make it tougher for Chapman to make the playoffs. In 2009 Chapman played terrible against SCIAC teams losing several games against SCIAC teams but won enough games as independent team and got a Pool B playoff bid winning the West Regional and finished 3rd in the National Championship series in Appleton, WI one win away from the National Championship games. They would have missed the playoffs that year if they were in the SCIAC.

In baseball Chapman has won and lost numerous games and series against all SCIAC teams except Cal Tech which it never plays. With Chapman being in the SCIAC and playing Cal Tech 3/4 times per year will lower Chapman's  SOS(Strength of Schedule Ratings) which will make it harder for them to get a Pool C bid unless it wins the conference to get a Pool A bid. Chapman has enjoyed the advantage of Pool B bids which may have been easier than winning the SCIAC for a Pool A or getting a Pool C bid. I bet Chapman baseball's preference may be to stay independent. BUT for other SCIAC teams it will raise their SOS and improve their chances for a Pool C playoff bid.

Will Cal Tech ever consider going to club sports status and leave the SCIAC. There are not  competitive in most sports and hurt other teams playoff chances in the SCIAC today by bringing down their SOS.
In several sports they have not won a SCIAC conference games for a very long time.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CA_dreamin on January 07, 2011, 01:09:46 AM
So what is the scouting report for the season?
Cal Lu loses Top of Order plus one and top 2 pitchers (Hertz, Martin, Hartman, Selden, Gelber).
Redlands loses heart of order, SS, #1 pitcher (Wetmore, Johnson, Sandford, Hughes,Braband, Lessig)
Laverne loses heart of batting order (Munoz, Hattabaugh, Surina, Pinado, Ibarra).
Pomona-Pitzer loses league MVP and #2 pitcher (Kang, Brunswick)
CMS loses too much to list.

The numbers seem to favor P-P but Kang is a big hole.
Can Oxy improve fast enough to contend?

Has anyone heard about the incoming frosh? Anyone get someone that will make a difference in 2011?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 07, 2011, 01:37:31 AM
Per Collegiate Baseball January 7, 2011 edition article on DIII Baseball Preview, Pomona rated #17 in their preseason poll returns 7 position player starters along with 4 pitchers including their #1 pitcher David Colvin(10-3 2.82 ERA 105.1 IP) and top hitter Eric Munzer(.415 19 2B 5 HR 45 RBI). I believe Pomona will again win the SCIAC and will be ranked in the top 25 in DIII Baseball. I expect Cal Lu and Redlands to compete for the #2 team in SCIAC followed by middle group of Oxy, CMS, Laverne with Whittier and Cal Tech at the bottom..Any different opinions. SCIAC wannabe Chapman has 15 games this year with SCIAC teams also.

Here is a look at Pomona's 2010 stats
http://pe.pomona.edu/sports/bsb/2009-10/stats/teamstat.htm
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.d3baseball.com%2Fimages%2F2010%2Fpomona_colvin.jpg&hash=9bab6c7a2e7cd6d318ca63d4b1bba81dd35c77ed)
Here is a look at the 2011 SCIAC team schedule.
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2010-11/schedule
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on January 12, 2011, 03:54:33 PM
Nice outlook on the upcoming season CA and Crash. Although I havent posted in a very long time, I do still catch up with D3 baseball (SCIAC) mostly. Happy new years folks
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PP 4 MTaF on January 13, 2011, 01:38:17 AM
I agree with PP winning SCIAC.  Although PP lost two big players in Brunswick and Kang, Colvin is going to be lights out in 2011.  I hear he pitched in the Cape this summer and his numbers were very impressive, I expect that he will do the same with SCIAC hitters this year.  Look for Munzer to have another solid year, among the best numbers a freshman has put up in SCIAC in a handful of years, and Frederick should provide a nice middle of the order bat. Redlands will manage to be competitive as will Cal-Lu, but expect to see PP celebrating.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 16, 2011, 12:51:38 AM
Early season match up on Feb. 10th Pomona Pitzer hosts SCIAC applicant Chapman. Both teams were in last years 2010 West Regional and both teams are expected to have strong teams in 2011. PP lead by their #1 Colvin and Chapman with their #1 Rauh. It would great to see them face off in this game..
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: StagnantFLY on January 18, 2011, 01:34:25 PM
Hey Guys,
Its been awhile since I have posted. I was wondering about Indy Ball. My son played at the Division 3 level and was all region player 3 times and an all conference player as well. He had very good college stats.....averaging a .350-.380 BA every year with alot of RBIs and 4-5 Home Runs. I know its a tough answer since you prob havent seen him play but do you think he has a shot at playing Indy ball? Whats the level like at Indy ball....does an above average college D3 Player have a chance to excel there? He is been trying to contact teams via email but they seem to invite him to tryouts....are these tryouts worth it? Hope someone knows more than me!

Thanks
The FLY



Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 18, 2011, 10:11:28 PM
Quote from: StagnantFLY on January 18, 2011, 01:34:25 PM
Hey Guys,
Its been awhile since I have posted. I was wondering about Indy Ball. My son played at the Division 3 level and was all region player 3 times and an all conference player as well. He had very good college stats.....averaging a .350-.380 BA every year with alot of RBIs and 4-5 Home Runs. I know its a tough answer since you prob havent seen him play but do you think he has a shot at playing Indy ball? Whats the level like at Indy ball....does an above average college D3 Player have a chance to excel there? He is been trying to contact teams via email but they seem to invite him to tryouts....are these tryouts worth it? Hope someone knows more than me!

Thanks
The FLY




What do you want us to say? You have posted this question on almost EVERY thread in the last two weeks. I have already answered the question for you. Show up at a tryout and see how good you(or your son) are. If you can play, they will sign you.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PP 4 MTaF on January 19, 2011, 07:57:43 PM
I agree with BigP.  Certain teams will have certain needs they are looking to fill and your son could fit one of those needs.  If he wants to play indy ball, his best shot is to keep on going to these tryouts and taking advantage of these opportunities and contacting coaches, etc. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 24, 2011, 09:07:33 AM
SCIAC GAMES THIS WEEK 1/23/2011 to 1/30/2011
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2010-11/schedule
Jan. 28
Westmont@ Whittier                    2:00 PM    Live stats
Jan. 29
Alumni@ Whittier                       10:00 AM    
Simpson(CA)@ Cal Lutheran       11:00 AM    
Alumni@ La Verne                      12:00 PM    
UC Santa Barbara(Club)@Caltech 12:00 PM    
Alumni@ Pomona-Pitzer                1:00 PM    
Simpson(CA)@ Cal Lutheran          2:30 PM    
Alumni@ La Verne                         3:00 PM

NOT SCIAC YET
  8-)
Alumni @ Chapman                        3:00 PM
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PP 4 MTaF on January 26, 2011, 01:13:45 AM
Game(s) of the week:  1)  Alumni @ Pomona-Pitzer   2)  Alumni @ Chapman
I know it's an alumni game, but I think you could still see some quality baseball being played from both sides. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 26, 2011, 07:48:44 AM
SCIAC Predictions for 2011

1) Pomona Pitzer
2) Redlands/Cal Lutheran
4) Claremont
5) Occidental
6) La Verne
7) Whittier
8) Cal Tech


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CA_dreamin on January 26, 2011, 05:21:37 PM
More SCIAC Predictions for 2011

1) Pomona Pitzer
2) Occidental
3) Cal Lu
4) Redlands
5) Claremont
6) La Verne
7) Whittier
8) Cal Tech

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 28, 2011, 08:04:21 AM
GAMES TODAY  
Jan. 28 Westmont@ Whittier                    2:00 PM
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2010-11/schedule
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 28, 2011, 05:44:57 PM
Whittier Game in Progress with Live Stats
http://livestats.prestosports.com/whittier/bsb/?e=kwodolwsdl4r6rah
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 28, 2011, 06:37:13 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on January 28, 2011, 05:44:57 PM
Whittier Game in Progress with Live Stats
http://livestats.prestosports.com/whittier/bsb/?e=kwodolwsdl4r6rah
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 28, 2011, 08:02:06 PM
FINAL SCORE
Whittier 10 Westmont 5.....

So much for the BBCOR bats keeping runs/hits down in 2011

Game Totals 15 runs 22 hits

BOXSCORE:
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 28, 2011, 10:04:23 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on January 28, 2011, 08:02:06 PM
FINAL SCORE
Whittier 10 Westmont 5.....

So much for the BBCOR bats keeping runs/hits down in 2011

Game Totals 15 runs 22 hits

BOXSCORE:
That may have more to do with the westmont pitching than the bats. Westmont, in the hills above Santa Barbara, is a perennial NAIA doormat in the Golden State Athletic Conference.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on January 28, 2011, 10:54:07 PM
BigPoppa,

You forgot to mention that Westmont was in the hills above Santa Barbara, actually it is in the hills just SE of Santa Barbara in a very exclusive area, and better than anything, from certain spots overlooks the Pacific Ocean. It is also near one of the most exclusive
honeymoon spots in the USA. Think JFK. What does this have to do with baseball? Nothing! Just as last and previous years of baseball success are only an indication of times past. The NAIA teams from most sports in most cases usually give most of the local D3 teams a run for their money. I perceive your comments to Crash Davis to be some kind of a "holier than thou" attitude from a poster that may not be familiar with the local situations regarding average NAIA and D3 teams. I strongly recommend that you wait a few weeks, or a few months before forming an opinion and posting something that you may not be familiar with. Have you viewed the box score (check Whittier's web site and the play by play)?

It is real easy for surfers to make generalized comments.....usually posters will substantiate their postings with facts that are current, in this case, the first game of the season.

I generally agree with your postings, but in this case it appears that your comments are without the facts.

Throw some current facts, new players, past averages and the like, for both teams, and I may agree with you. Who knows, maybe both teams are evenly matched, in which case, maybe the bats were the difference. I wasn't there, but have studied the box scores.

My best to you and yours!

Plus K to Crash for his continual postings!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 29, 2011, 12:24:41 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on January 28, 2011, 08:02:06 PM
FINAL SCORE
Whittier 10 Westmont 7 5.....So much for the BBCOR bats keeping runs/hits down in 2011  ???

Game Totals 17 runs 15 runs  24 hits 22 hits[/color]
GAME STORY
http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2010-11/releases/20110128unz19p

Whittier was 9-31 in 2010 with a team ERA of 8.29
Westmont was 13-34 in 2010 with a team ERA of 6.96
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 29, 2011, 08:01:11 PM
Quote from: dahlby on January 28, 2011, 10:54:07 PM
BigPoppa,

You forgot to mention that Westmont was in the hills above Santa Barbara, actually it is in the hills just SE of Santa Barbara in a very exclusive area, and better than anything, from certain spots overlooks the Pacific Ocean. It is also near one of the most exclusive
honeymoon spots in the USA. Think JFK. What does this have to do with baseball? Nothing! Just as last and previous years of baseball success are only an indication of times past. The NAIA teams from most sports in most cases usually give most of the local D3 teams a run for their money. I perceive your comments to Crash Davis to be some kind of a "holier than thou" attitude from a poster that may not be familiar with the local situations regarding average NAIA and D3 teams. I strongly recommend that you wait a few weeks, or a few months before forming an opinion and posting something that you may not be familiar with. Have you viewed the box score (check Whittier's web site and the play by play)?

It is real easy for surfers to make generalized comments.....usually posters will substantiate their postings with facts that are current, in this case, the first game of the season.

I generally agree with your postings, but in this case it appears that your comments are without the facts.

Throw some current facts, new players, past averages and the like, for both teams, and I may agree with you. Who knows, maybe both teams are evenly matched, in which case, maybe the bats were the difference. I wasn't there, but have studied the box scores.

My best to you and yours!

Plus K to Crash for his continual postings!
Being a former head coach in the NAIA's GSAC, I am completely aware of both the NAIA and D3 Baseball played in SoCal. Teams hit nearly .330 against Westmont last season and they gave up almost 7 EARNED runs per game. Past performance IS an indicator of future performance. That is why some programs continue to excel while others are mediocre. I did not intend to slight either Westmont or Whittier, which you sort of implied and Crash knows that I am not "Holier than thou", especially when it comes to his thoughts. I have a feeling he might agree with me. Additionally, I have former players and assistant coaches in many SoCal programs so my information may actually be more informed than the average fan or parent who only sees game day.

My comment about Westmont's location was due to the fact that it is an NAIA school and many D3ers may not know of it. I was simply adding some information that may not have been known by observers outside of the west coast.:)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 30, 2011, 11:32:17 AM
SCIAC RECAP

SOURCE http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2010-11/releases/20110128unz19p
WHITTIER, Calif. – The Whittier baseball team plated 10 runs on 13 hits as it opened the 2011 season with a 10-7 win over NAIA Westmont on Friday afternoon at Memorial Field.

SOURCE http://www.clusports.com/baseball/news/7236/
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. - The Cal Lutheran baseball season officially got underway Saturday with a twinbill against NAIA opponent Simpson University. Both teams picked up their respective first wins of the year with CLU taking game one 14-5 the Red Hawks the second by an 8-4 margin.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on January 30, 2011, 03:14:06 PM
BiigPoppa/Crash:

Just as standings, won/lost records and the ball/strike counts are kept as the game/season progresses, I assume that Crash will follow the impact of changing bats
with respect to hits and runs scored. It indeed will be interesting to follow the impact
and the comments on this and other baseball boards across the country.

I do look foroward to Crash's updates.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CMSfan on February 01, 2011, 11:20:25 PM
Azusa Pacific 5, CMS 0

Box Score: http://www.cmsathletics.org/sports/bsb/2010-11/files/apu-cms.htm (http://www.cmsathletics.org/sports/bsb/2010-11/files/apu-cms.htm)

The Stags offense only managed one hit and two walks in the game.  APU scored 4 runs in the 2nd, in part due to two bunt hits.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 01, 2011, 11:53:36 PM
Quote from: CMSfan on February 01, 2011, 11:20:25 PM
Azusa Pacific 5, CMS 0

Box Score: http://www.cmsathletics.org/sports/bsb/2010-11/files/apu-cms.htm (http://www.cmsathletics.org/sports/bsb/2010-11/files/apu-cms.htm)

The Stags offense only managed one hit and two walks in the game.  APU scored 4 runs in the 2nd, in part due to two bunt hits.
Game totals for 2 teams 10 hits 5 runs and NO extra base hits....
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 02, 2011, 09:18:21 AM
Upcoming Games
Feb. 4   
Pacific (Ore.)      Pomona-Pitzer       2:00 PM   
Biola      La Verne       2:00 PM   
Caltech       La Sierra       2:00 PM   
Chapman      Whittier       2:30 PM   
Menlo      Occidental       2:30 PM   

Feb. 5
Pacific (Ore.)      Pomona-Pitzer       10:00 AM   
Alumni      Claremont-Mudd-Scripps       11:00 AM   
Whittier       Chapman       11:00 AM   
Pacifica      Caltech       12:00 PM   
Alumni      Redlands       12:00 PM   
Menlo      Occidental       1:00 PM   
Alumni      Cal Lutheran       1:00 PM   
La Verne       Biola       1:00 PM   
Pacific (Ore.)      Pomona-Pitzer       2:00 PM   
Whittier       Chapman       2:30 PM   

Feb. 6
Menlo      Occidental       11:00 AM   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 04, 2011, 10:24:19 AM
I am curious to see two things this weekend form the Chapman/Whittier series:

1. What does Chapman bring to the table offensively this year?

2. Was Whittier's 10 run outburts on NAIA Westmont last weekend a result of an improved offense for the Poets or is a result a down Westmont pitching staff?

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 05, 2011, 05:52:46 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 04, 2011, 10:24:19 AM
I am curious to see two things this weekend form the Chapman/Whittier series:

1. What does Chapman bring to the table offensively this year?

2. Was Whittier's 10 run outburts on NAIA Westmont last weekend a result of an improved offense for the Poets or is a result a down Westmont pitching staff?  ???


SCIAC Whittier vs SCIAC applicant Chapman
SOURCE: http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2010-11/files/teamcume.htm

No surprise with the 7 inning no hit 13 strikeout performance from Brian Rauh. Seems like he picks up where he left off in 2010. Panther pitchers gave up no earned runs in the game and only 1 hit and 1 unearned run.  8-)

Panthers return its entire starting pitching staff from 2010 that was 3rd in the nation in ERA.  They only lost 3 pitchers who threw a total of 22 innings with 2 wins;D

Big offensive days with two home runs 2 runs scored and 4 RBI day by Kordich and 3 run HR blast by Surnbrock, which provided plenty of offense on Friday with a total of 9 hits for the Panthers.  Panthers Piro and Newman also picked up 2 hits each ;D

Chapman's well respected hitting coach Koosed returns this year after a 1 year absence working for OC Flyers a local minor league team. Chapman set many of its season records for offensive in prior seasons with Koosed there.  ;D

4 year Chapman starter RHP Sigman will go for the Panthers in the double header today at Hart Park in Orange, CA vs Whittier. Sigman already owns several career pitching records at Chapman and will finish with a few more career records with good season in 2011. He may even approach some career DIII pitching records also.  ;D

Chapman Season Preview: http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2010-11/releases/0203
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 05, 2011, 10:44:19 PM
Only took 2 days for Chapman to play it self out of top 25.....as Whiitter wins 2 games today from the Panthers.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 05, 2011, 10:50:48 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 04, 2011, 10:24:19 AM
I am curious to see two things this weekend form the Chapman/Whittier series:

1. What does Chapman bring to the table offensively this year?

???  :o Not much for games 2/3 with Whittier

Game Story
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2010-11/releases/0205

http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2010-11/releases/0205
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ppfm on February 06, 2011, 09:54:10 AM
Great weekend for Pomona Pitzer against Pacific University, highlighted by senior first baseman Nick Frederick's 10/13 weekend with a homerun, a triple and three doubles.  The Hens really look good and deep with solid pitching led by ace David Colvin who had 7 strong innings in Friday's game.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 06, 2011, 11:02:44 AM
Quote from: ppfm on February 06, 2011, 09:54:10 AM
Great weekend for Pomona Pitzer against Pacific University, highlighted by senior first baseman Nick Frederick's 10/13 weekend with a homerun, a triple and three doubles.  The Hens really look good and deep with solid pitching led by ace David Colvin who had 7 strong innings in Friday's game.

Pomona looks like to be one of the top teams in the West and SCIAC with its strong offense, strong pitching and great core of players returning from 2010. They will be playing on Feb 10th and 14th. Chapman will be recovering from losing 2 out 3 to Whittier. A showdown between 2 pre season All Americans Rauh vs Colvin will be a great game to see.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CA_dreamin on February 07, 2011, 11:57:48 AM
Agree that Thursday's game of Pomona-Pitzer's Colvin and Chapman's Rauh should be one of the highlights of the season.  Bet there will be some radar guns out there.

I think its too early to be annointing Pomona Pitzer.  Pacific hit .275 against them, only down a little from last year, and Pacific had a team era of 9 last year, so scoring 27 runs in three games runs isn't heroic.  It's hard to know yet how much to adjust for the bats.

Also, I don't think you can write off Cal Lu, Oxy, and LaVerne from first weekend losses to NAIA opponents. But Whittier taking two from Chapman was an interesting development.  Their pitching was especially impressive.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PP 4 MTaF on February 07, 2011, 09:06:41 PM
An interesting weekend of baseball indeed.  Whittier taking 2 of 3 from Chapman was downright unpredictable.  While I don't think the Poets will be a force in the SCIAC, it will be interesting to see if they can play the role of weekend spoiler taking a game or two from the teams that will be leading the pack. 

While Pomona-Pitzer was "expected" to take this series, it was still impressive to watch them dominate Pacific.  Colvin was as-advertised on the mound throwing a strong 7 (gave up an early couple as he has seemed to do here and there in the past...for him it may just be a matter of finding a groove a little earlier).  As ppfm pointed out Frederick went off on the weekend, the senior slugger looked to be in a class of his own.  Also providing hopefully what are good signs to come were freshman Timothy Novom and Travis Bowers...always exciting when a couple freshman get thrown in the mix and take stride. 

Looking forward to a great game with Chapman...hands down the West Region's GAME OF THE WEEK.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 07, 2011, 10:23:35 PM
Is it too early to say that Chapman/Pomona game will have some post-season implications? wish I could be there to watch two all-Americans battle it out on the hill. I'll take Chapman 3-2 in this one.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PP 4 MTaF on February 07, 2011, 11:35:05 PM
This is a big game for Chapman in the sense that Chapman needs to win their in-region games to receive an at large bid to the regional tournament; this game is even bigger for Chapman since they just lost 2 to Whittier.  With that being said Chapman and Pomona have battled it out in regular and post season play over the last several years and I expect this year to play out the same way.  Plus look at those arms on the hill! 
I got Pomona 5-2
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 09, 2011, 01:24:52 AM
Despite losing 2 our of 3 to Whittier, Pitching for Chapman remains very strong with a team ERA of 2.76 with 6 pitchers have a ERA of 0.00 and 1 having a ERA of 2.25. with opposing team OBA of.216. Chapman pitchers threw 22 shutout innings over the 3 game series with Whittier. Only 1 pitcher has a higher ERA. Pomona's team ERA is 3.00

BUT Chapman hitting is below the Mendoza line with a team .192 BA  while leaving 26 runners on base will not get things done along with 5 errors and team .960 fielding average with 2 missed plays on the field resulting in the 2 runs in a 2-1 game. Pomona's team BA is .349 and team fielding is at a .983 clip.

Clearly the early season numbers favor Pomona. :) BUT I also expect Chapman's hitting to pickup with veteran Chapman players getting back to expected levels of production. As always expectations of Chapman are very high and maybe a little pressure was being felt by the players.

In 2009 after 9 games Chapman was 5-4 after losing 2 of 3 from Whittier and La Verne.  Chapman also in 2009 lost 3 of 4 to Pomona.

That year Chapman won the West Regionals and finished 3rd at the DIII Championships only 1 win away from the National Championship game.

Chapman does indeed need to turn the ship around now or dig a big hole if it loses the next 2 against Pomona. It has less impact on Pomona who must win the SCIAC for a Pool A bid and this is a non conference game but is in region which does make it important for a Pool C bid for Pomona.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 10, 2011, 03:29:59 PM
TODAY 2 PM Chapman @ Pomona   Rauh vs Colvin   ???

A battle between 2 potential 1st team All American Pitchers
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 10, 2011, 03:32:44 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 10, 2011, 03:29:59 PM
TODAY 2 PM Chapman @ Pomona   Rauh vs Colvin   ???

A battle between 2 potential 1st team All American Pitchers

Can't wait to see the results pour in.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 10, 2011, 07:29:58 PM
7-6 Pomona over Chapman in the 6th... So much for a pitching duel...BUT fences at PP are ridiculously short in RF...Heard some errors contributed to runs
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 10, 2011, 07:31:49 PM
Tied 7-7 Pomona/Chapman in the 8th....A real battle.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 10, 2011, 07:43:09 PM
7-7 Tied Chapman/Pomona in the 9th....I guess the 2 PreSeason All American pitchers did not shut down the offenses. Errors and Walks ???

I dont have details of game just the score.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 10, 2011, 07:51:56 PM
Pomona(4-0) wins 8-7 over Chapman(1-3). Chapman has now lost 3 consecutive games with 2 being 1 run losses. Both teams match up again on 2/14. Chapman has dug a HUGE hole they will have to climb out of if the wish to be a Pool B bid this year.  
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 11, 2011, 06:44:01 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 10, 2011, 07:51:56 PM
Pomona(4-0) wins 8-7 over Chapman(1-3). Chapman has now lost 3 consecutive games with 2 being 1 run losses. Both teams match up again on 2/14. Chapman has dug a HUGE hole they will have to climb out of if the wish to be a Pool B bid this year. 

Chapman was 1-3 after 4 games in 2003...That was the year Chapman won the last game played in DIII baseball in Appleton WI that year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 11, 2011, 07:49:25 AM
Chapman's 1-3 start is not a concern to me. To be honest, Pool B contenders are hard to find most year so Chapman will still be sitting pretty once the post-season rolls around.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CA_dreamin on February 11, 2011, 11:22:14 AM
Agree that Chapman is too good to not right the ship and get the nod to post season.  But with 1-3 in sciac, they should be glad that they aren't in the league this year.

Made the trek out to Claremont to see the game.  Not a pitching duel as expected, but both Colvin and Rauh are quite impressive.  Unofficial line was Rauh 7R, 6ER, 8h, 8k,2bb, 5IP. Colvin: 6R, 5ER, 11H, 6K, 2BB. 

Hit totals are a little deceiving.  A lot of bloop singles, seeing eye grounders thru the hole.  Having said that, both pitchers were very willing to challenge hitters, and both got burned by that.  Colvin looked more polished, a little more velocity, a little more movement, little more command of off speed.  A treat to watch both, though.

Chapman defense did not help Rauh, with 2 errors in first three batters. Pomona-Pitzer defense was not flawless either.

A great finish though, with pinch hit single and a frosh getting the GWRBI.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 11, 2011, 11:30:42 AM
Quote from: CA_dreamin on February 11, 2011, 11:22:14 AM
Agree that Chapman is too good to not right the ship and get the nod to post season.  But with 1-3 in sciac, they should be glad that they aren't in the league this year.

Made the trek out to Claremont to see the game.  Not a pitching duel as expected, but both Colvin and Rauh are quite impressive.  Unofficial line was Rauh 7R, 6ER, 8h, 8k,2bb, 5IP. Colvin: 6R, 5ER, 11H, 6K, 2BB. 

Hit totals are a little deceiving.  A lot of bloop singles, seeing eye grounders thru the hole.  Having said that, both pitchers were very willing to challenge hitters, and both got burned by that.  Colvin looked more polished, a little more velocity, a little more movement, little more command of off speed.  A treat to watch both, though.

Chapman defense did not help Rauh, with 2 errors in first three batters. Pomona-Pitzer defense was not flawless either.

A great finish though, with pinch hit single and a frosh getting the GWRBI.
In 2009 Chapman had a losing record vs SCIAC teams and would have finished 4th in the SCIAC that year BUT got a Pool B bid, won the West Regional and finished 3rd in the DIII Championship tournament. Joining the SCIAC would make it tougher for Chapman to get a post season bid without winning the SCIAC or have a great season to get a Pool C bid.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfan_2001 on February 11, 2011, 12:40:34 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 11, 2011, 11:30:42 AM
Quote from: CA_dreamin on February 11, 2011, 11:22:14 AM
Agree that Chapman is too good to not right the ship and get the nod to post season.  But with 1-3 in sciac, they should be glad that they aren't in the league this year.

Made the trek out to Claremont to see the game.  Not a pitching duel as expected, but both Colvin and Rauh are quite impressive.  Unofficial line was Rauh 7R, 6ER, 8h, 8k,2bb, 5IP. Colvin: 6R, 5ER, 11H, 6K, 2BB. 

Hit totals are a little deceiving.  A lot of bloop singles, seeing eye grounders thru the hole.  Having said that, both pitchers were very willing to challenge hitters, and both got burned by that.  Colvin looked more polished, a little more velocity, a little more movement, little more command of off speed.  A treat to watch both, though.

Chapman defense did not help Rauh, with 2 errors in first three batters. Pomona-Pitzer defense was not flawless either.

A great finish though, with pinch hit single and a frosh getting the GWRBI.
In 2009 Chapman had a losing record vs SCIAC teams and would have finished 4th in the SCIAC that year BUT got a Pool B bid, won the West Regional and finished 3rd in the DIII Championship tournament. Joining the SCIAC would make it tougher for Chapman to get a post season bid without winning the SCIAC or have a great season to get a Pool C bid.
are there talks of Chapman joining a conf?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 11, 2011, 01:08:13 PM
Chapman applied to join the SCIAC. A decision is set to be made in April.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on February 11, 2011, 04:49:51 PM
Surprising to hear of Chapman's 1-3 start. Oh well, that's the way the horsehide bounces.

Now...when is the Underwear Run?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 11, 2011, 05:08:05 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on February 11, 2011, 04:49:51 PM
Surprising to hear of Chapman's 1-3 start. Oh well, that's the way the horsehide bounces.

Now...when is the Underwear Run?
FINALS WEEK

6 Errors did in Chapman at Pomona.  :o...2 misplayed balls at Whittier. That equals 2 1 run losses.... :'(

2003 Chapman started off 0-3
2009 Chapman started off 5-4

They finished ok in those years  ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 11, 2011, 07:37:17 PM
Pomona off to a 5-0 start in the SCIAC. While Whittier is 3-2.. This is overall record and not just conference games

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2010-11/standings
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CA_dreamin on February 14, 2011, 10:12:09 AM
Is Oxy happier about taking three in a row or unhappy they lost the one to Lewis and Clark?  Says something about their expectations for this year.  Four games takes you much deeper into pitching staff, but they did get a full week of rest.

Redlands has to feel good about Johnson's complete game shutout, outpitching Sunderland of CMS.  Looks like Redlands has some depth in hitting.

Cal Lu couldn't get it going against the cream of the Northwest conference.  Will Cal Lu struggle, or is the Northwest conference that tough?  LaVerne managed to take it hard to Pac Lu.  This weekend's matchup with Cal Lu and LaVerne should be interesting.

Game of the week today.  Can Chapman get back at Pomona-Pitzer after Thursday's loss?  Chapman outhit P-P, and has perhaps the deepest pitching in the west, so this could be a telling game.  Too early to be a must win, but Chapman at 1-4 would be an interesting development.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 14, 2011, 11:20:51 AM
Quote from: CA_dreamin on February 14, 2011, 10:12:09 AM
Is Oxy happier about taking three in a row or unhappy they lost the one to Lewis and Clark?  Says something about their expectations for this year.  Four games takes you much deeper into pitching staff, but they did get a full week of rest.

Redlands has to feel good about Johnson's complete game shutout, outpitching Sunderland of CMS.  Looks like Redlands has some depth in hitting.

Cal Lu couldn't get it going against the cream of the Northwest conference.  Will Cal Lu struggle, or is the Northwest conference that tough?  LaVerne managed to take it hard to Pac Lu.  This weekend's matchup with Cal Lu and LaVerne should be interesting.

Game of the week today.  Can Chapman get back at Pomona-Pitzer after Thursday's loss?  Chapman outhit P-P, and has perhaps the deepest pitching in the west, so this could be a telling game.  Too early to be a must win, but Chapman at 1-4 would be an interesting development.

Chapman had 6 errors against Pomona in a 1 run loss. Nobody can overcome that and win a game. Chapman had 2 errors in 1 run loss at Whittier with 2 misplayed balls that allowed 2 runs to score.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 14, 2011, 08:42:34 PM
FINAL Pomona(8-0) 10 Chapman(1-4) 2

Wow......
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CA_dreamin on February 14, 2011, 10:27:21 PM
Wow, is right.  Ten is a lot of runs against Chapman pitching with the new bats.  As Crash correctly pointed out, Chapman's defense is really hurting them. Chapman had four errors again, although it looks like it was too late to make a difference in this game, but who knows.  Getting 7 earned runs off McGee is hard to do.  Chapman at 1-4 puts some pressure on them.  It will be interesting to see if McMurray gives them a chance to get it going, or breaks their back.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 14, 2011, 11:36:17 PM
Quote from: CA_dreamin on February 14, 2011, 10:27:21 PM
Wow, is right.  Ten is a lot of runs against Chapman pitching with the new bats.  As Crash correctly pointed out, Chapman's defense is really hurting them. Chapman had four errors again, although it looks like it was too late to make a difference in this game, but who knows.  Getting 7 earned runs off McGee is hard to do.  Chapman at 1-4 puts some pressure on them.  It will be interesting to see if McMurray gives them a chance to get it going, or breaks their back.
Chapman needs to take 2 of 3 from McMurry.

I am sorry that I want be at the game.  I have a commitment in Tyler this weekend.  I may not even get to see the games on the webcast, but I will try.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 15, 2011, 02:11:10 AM
Quote from: CA_dreamin on February 14, 2011, 10:27:21 PM
Wow, is right.  Ten is a lot of runs against Chapman pitching with the new bats.  As Crash correctly pointed out, Chapman's defense is really hurting them. Chapman had four errors again, although it looks like it was too late to make a difference in this game, but who knows.  Getting 7 earned runs off McGee is hard to do.  Chapman at 1-4 puts some pressure on them.  It will be interesting to see if McMurray gives them a chance to get it going, or breaks their back.
14 errors and several misplayed balls not errors but still costing Chapman runs over past 5 games... Also now 2 of starters ERA's over 6.50 and their ACE Rauh over 3.50....Not a very Chapman like performances historically. Chapman lost 3 infield starters, 1 OF and 1 catcher but their whole pitching is back but certainly not performing like the #3 ERA in the nation in 2010.

Chapman now is a must win situation with McMurry so early in the season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CA_dreamin on February 16, 2011, 11:32:58 PM
Weekend predictions:

Oxy 2-1 over cal Lu
Redlands 2-1 over LaVerne
Pomona sweeps Whittier (could they sneak up again on a top 20 team?)
Cms sweeps cal tech.

Why are there only three teams with live stats?  Sure makes it tough for the non-local fans.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: goodolsciac on February 18, 2011, 01:12:08 PM
Cal Lu 2-1 over Oxy
La Verne 2-1 over Redlands
Pomona 2-1 over Whittier
CMS Sweeps Cal Tech

You can take that to the bank.  ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 18, 2011, 02:36:15 PM
I'll take Pomona to sweep Whittier.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: goodolsciac on February 18, 2011, 05:22:28 PM
I was in Vegas last weekend so I'm in a gambling mood.  So I figured why not take the 35 to 1 Whittier over Pomona.  lol  :D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CA_dreamin on February 22, 2011, 11:07:13 AM
Good call goodolsciac on Whittier.  Looks like Whittier only mustered 5 hits, but still came away with the win when Pomona-Pitzer hitting went silent.  Whittier hoped to be .500 on season, but now they are .500 against top 25 teams.  Will be interesting to see if they can keep it going.

Cal Lu steamrolls Oxy.  What happened Cal Lu  in Arizona? Is the Northwest conference that good?  Cal Lu seems to have some pitching depth; if they can improve their defense and keep their consistency at the plate, they will be tough.

Redlands has the hitting and starting pitching, but it they will need to develop more depth in pitching.  If they do, it could be a dogfight.

Watching the scores rise over the last two weekends in both of the Redlands series made me wonder if that was normal:  Aces go Friday and #2s on first game on Saturday and #3 on second game, so scores should rise, right?  Last year, there were 16 series in SCIAC with the same opponent all three games.  The average runs scored was 17 in the first game, 13 in the second game and 17 in the third game.  Surprised me.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CA_dreamin on February 22, 2011, 11:36:45 AM
Oops, formula error.  In 24 three game series in SCIAC last year, the numbers ar 14 runs per game in the first game, 14 runs per game in the second game, and 15 runs in the third game.  Still surprised that there isn't much of a difference, but 24 isn't a huge sample size.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: goodolsciac on February 22, 2011, 12:50:04 PM
Quote from: CA_dreamin on February 22, 2011, 11:07:13 AM
Good call goodolsciac on Whittier.  Looks like Whittier only mustered 5 hits, but still came away with the win when Pomona-Pitzer hitting went silent.  Whittier hoped to be .500 on season, but now they are .500 against top 25 teams.  Will be interesting to see if they can keep it going.

Cal Lu steamrolls Oxy.  What happened Cal Lu  in Arizona? Is the Northwest conference that good?  Cal Lu seems to have some pitching depth; if they can improve their defense and keep their consistency at the plate, they will be tough.

Redlands has the hitting and starting pitching, but it they will need to develop more depth in pitching.  If they do, it could be a dogfight.

Watching the scores rise over the last two weekends in both of the Redlands series made me wonder if that was normal:  Aces go Friday and #2s on first game on Saturday and #3 on second game, so scores should rise, right?  Last year, there were 16 series in SCIAC with the same opponent all three games.  The average runs scored was 17 in the first game, 13 in the second game and 17 in the third game.  Surprised me.



This was definitely an interesting weekend in the Good ol' Sciac.  Whittier always starts the year off like this  (e.g Chapman series last year) but they often lose steam towards the middle of the year and end up in the spoiler role towards the end.  They start off like a bat out of hell which is why I had them taking one from PP. 8-) The loss to Whitter will make the run away conf. title at the end of the year a little tougher for Pitzer.  Although early, and with the absence of any significant series sweeps it is pretty much anyone's game in the SCIAC.  Also, remember that the 4 game matchups are still in effect this year. 

I would have liked to see the ULV vs Redlands Friday game go 9.  Take a look at the numbers at the time the game was called.

Univ. of Redlands... 002 000 -  2  1  0
Univ. of La Verne... 000 001 -  1  2  3


Oxy and Cal Lu still have to make up the first game of the series.  Should be interesting.

Scoring patterns in the Sciac seems to be a crapshoot. lol
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 23, 2011, 02:06:35 AM

CONFERENCE GAMES

Cal Lutheran      2-0   1.000   
Pomona-Pitzer    5-1   0.833   
Redlands           4-2    0.667   
CMS                 3-2    0.600   
Whittier            1-2    0.333   
La Verne           1-2    0.333   
Occidental         0-2   0.000   
Caltech             0-5   0.000

The usual top 3 in the mix...

Chapman would be 1-4 IF they were in SCIAC this year...... ???
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 24, 2011, 01:39:35 AM
Will it be Pomona's Colvin (2-0 22 IP 26K 3.27 ERA) VS Chapman's Rauh(2-0 21 IP 31K 2.14 ERA) this  Friday at 7 PM at Chapman..

1st faceoff this year ended up in a no decision for both pitchers and a Pomona Win...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 25, 2011, 01:26:56 PM
Looks like Rain all weekend in SoCal

Will rain be a factor for games Friday, Saturday, Sunday ?

Will they get postponed, rescheduled, cancelled ?

Or maybe just play in the rain like they did in the Regionals at Linfield in McMinnville, Oregon

Pomona and Chapman did it before...last year. :o
http://www.bing.com/weather/today?q=weather+orange+ca&unit=F#hourlyBreakdownTable
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: goodolsciac on February 25, 2011, 07:54:33 PM
La Verne beats Whittier 5-0
Mark Larini 2 Hit CG Shutout
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: goodolsciac on February 26, 2011, 02:48:36 AM
Quote from: goodolsciac on February 25, 2011, 07:54:33 PM
La Verne beats Whittier 5-0
Mark Larini 2 Hit CG Shutout


Univ. of La Verne     ip    h    r    er    bb    so    wp    bk    hbp    ibb    ab    bf    fo    go
Mark Larini W,1-1     9.0    2    0    0    3    11    0    0    0    0    28    31    3    12

I don't know how to edit a previous post, if possible.  ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on February 26, 2011, 02:44:46 PM
Quote from: goodolsciac on February 26, 2011, 02:48:36 AM
Quote from: goodolsciac on February 25, 2011, 07:54:33 PM
I don't know how to edit a previous post, if possible.  ;D
There is usually a modify button at the upper right of your post.  I think you have to have a minimum number of posts before you can do that.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 28, 2011, 12:46:51 PM
I have not posted for a while but I will give my view on the SCIAC so far, with Chapman included. 
*Note-  I have not seen any of these teams play, only going by the scores/stats.

Pomona-  They look to be the cream of the crop in the SCIAC.  Colvin has been pretty good so far but got hit hard by Chapman both times he faced them.  I still see Pomona winning the SCIAC.

Redlands- I think Derick Johnson might be the best arm in the SCIAC.  Redlands seems to have a stong lineup 1-9 and they create a lot of opportunities for themselves.  After Johnson, I don't see them having the arms to take the SCIAC.

La Verne- ULV could be the spoiler in the SCIAC.  They seem to be very inconsistent and always have been, but they are a solid team.  I look to ULV to win some games over the top teams and cause some interesting games at the end of the year.

Cal Lutheran-  They are off to a  bad start and they have been beat by some good teams so far.  They look to have a solid "O" and pitching staff, but their "D" has been terrible and they will lose a lot more in the SCIAC if they continue to play that way.

Whittier-  They played Chapman tough like always but thats about it, they continue to struggle year in and year out.

Oxy-  They keep bringing in new coaches with the same results.  They have a lot of stolen bases but not much to show for it, plus, they don't throw their best arm in Belter.

CMS-  New year, same average team.

Cal Tech- Will they break their baseball streak like they did in hoops???

Chapman-  This is not your Chapman team of the past.  They are still a solid club but they are hitting under .300 and their schedule hasn't been the greatest.  They lost 2/3 to Whittier, lost 2/3 to Pomona, beat a 2-6 McMurry team, and their opponents have a 28-25 overall record, with 6 of those wins coming against Cal Tech.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 04, 2011, 08:21:57 AM
SCIAC GAMES THIS WEEKEND
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2010-11/schedule
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: goodolsciac on March 05, 2011, 07:27:31 PM
La Verne loses Friday game 4-3 Friday by way of walk off homerun.  However, the Leos take the double header 9-4 and 4-1.  Interesting weekend!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: beachlover on March 05, 2011, 08:55:26 PM
Redlands swept Occidental.   Johnson pitches a 1 run, 3 hit gem on Friday.  Ox hands one to Redlands with some fielding miscues.  Beautiful weather in so cal. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CMSfan on March 06, 2011, 02:54:18 AM
Uggh...CMS gets swept by Cal Lu, losing each game by one run.  It's shaping up to be a long year for the Stags.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 10, 2011, 02:54:51 PM
Here is another look at the SCIAC since things changed a lot last week.

Pomona- they got beat throughout the weekend and thanks to a walk-off bomb on Friday, they didn't get swept.  I am not as high on Pomona as last week but Colvin and Frederick are 2 of the best in the SCIAC.

LaVerne- took a huge step towards the top by taking 2 of 3 from Pomona.  Maybe they can make a run at the top.

Redlands- They swept Oxy but it was a very tight series.  Johnson continues to dominate but I just hope they don't use him up before the end of the season.  He has thrown a lot already and the end of the year is when he will be needed most.

Oxy- they played Redlands real close but they have 6 wins against teams with a combined record of 1-24 (Cal Tech and Lewis & Clark).  Oxy avoided being the victim of the end of Cal Tech's losing streak, but hung on for a 3-1 win. 

Cal Lutheran- they played a very close series with Claremont and have been pitching very well.  One name that hasn't been mentioned is John Lemoure, who is 3-1 with a .70 ERA (2-0 .5 ERA in SCIAC).  Nick Bogan could be the player of the year in the SCIAC.

Whittier- they beat up on Cal Tech and have a chance to hurt Cal Lutheran this weekend.  The Poets have knocked off Pomona and Chapman (x2) and seem to have the capability to beat good teams.

Claremont- a tough series with Cal Lutheran, dropping all 3 games by 1.  They seem to have a decent team but can't get over the hump.

Cal Tech- the same, although they did almost beat Oxy.

Chapman- No change for them since the Wabash games are non-West Region games. McMurry isn't helping Chapman with a record of 3-11 but the Panthers can pick up some huge games with Linfield, LaVerne and Redlands still left to play.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CMSfan on March 12, 2011, 10:15:21 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 10, 2011, 02:54:51 PM
Claremont- a tough series with Cal Lutheran, dropping all 3 games by 1.  They seem to have a decent team but can't get over the hump.

Hump cleared. Stags sweep Saturday doubleheader vs. P-P! First time they've done that in I don't know how long!

Game One: Stags 6, Sagehens 0 (Ulrich throws a shutout)
Game Two: Stags 7, Sagehens 2 (CG for Hadzinsky)

Nice work, Stags!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 13, 2011, 12:15:39 AM
Quote from: CMSfan on March 12, 2011, 10:15:21 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 10, 2011, 02:54:51 PM
Claremont- a tough series with Cal Lutheran, dropping all 3 games by 1.  They seem to have a decent team but can't get over the hump.

Hump cleared. Stags sweep Saturday doubleheader vs. P-P! First time they've done that in I don't know how long!

Game One: Stags 6, Sagehens 0 (Ulrich throws a shutout)
Game Two: Stags 7, Sagehens 2 (CG for Hadzinsky)

Nice work, Stags!


Wow, the SCIAC just keeps getting a little more odd.  Huge weekend for CMS and a great series between Oxy and LaVerne.  Cal Lutheran and Whittier playes extra's twice!!!  This is shaping up to be a great race.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 18, 2011, 01:22:15 PM
Taking a break from conference play this week in the SCIAC but a recap of whats been going on.

Pomona- Back-to-back 1-2 weekends is not a good sign at all.  They can not afford to lose any more SCIAC series' and they still have Cal Lutheran and Redlands to play.

LaVerne- they looked to be taking a huge step towards the top of the conference but dropped the final game to Oxy.  It looks like ULV has very good pitching but a poor "O".

Redlands- they are in good shape in the SCIAC but the Pomona series is a big one.  If they sweep that series it not only knocks Pomona out, it has Redlands sitting pretty.  Can their arms hold up?  They seem to throw the same guys every single game and Johnson got knocked around in his last start.

Cal Lutheran- they have won 8 straight but 6 of them by 1-run.  They are winning the close games which is a good sign.  Huge weekends with LaVerne and Pomona coming up.

Whittier- these guys can play witht he best.  I underestimated them at the start of the year.  They gave Cal Lu all they could handle and beat Kean and Ithaca this week.  Still the spoilers.


Oxy- other than the win agains LaVerne they have been beat up.  They are playing teams pretty close but still need some help.

Claremont- great series win against Pomona and they too will sneak up on some teams before the season is over.

Chapman- they are hot right now but they are not getting any in-region wins.  Huge series with LaVerne this weekend then 3 with Wheaton, which says they are in-region but I think that is a mistake.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 18, 2011, 01:44:23 PM
Wheaton (IL) is in-region(same-administraive region)... Wheaton (Mass) is not. Which do they play?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 18, 2011, 01:50:02 PM
Wheaton (IL).  I didnt realize it was done by administrative regions.  Learn somehting new every day.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 18, 2011, 01:51:38 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 18, 2011, 01:50:02 PM
Wheaton (IL).  I didnt realize it was done by administrative regions.  Learn somehting new every day.

I did not know it until last year. The NCAA is confusing to many people.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 18, 2011, 02:23:31 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 18, 2011, 01:51:38 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 18, 2011, 01:50:02 PM
Wheaton (IL).  I didnt realize it was done by administrative regions.  Learn somehting new every day.

I did not know it until last year. The NCAA is confusing to many people.

The size of the Rule books can tell you how much confusion...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ppfm on March 18, 2011, 09:06:50 PM
Don't count Pomona out too quickly.  A few blips and they seem to be back.  Won two against Macalester today, both shut outs.  SCIAC should be close up to the very end.  Colvin has been looking very strong. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: El Hombre on March 19, 2011, 02:06:34 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 18, 2011, 01:44:23 PM
Wheaton (IL) is in-region(same-administraive region)... Wheaton (Mass) is not. Which do they play?

Isn't Wheaton (IL) in the CCIW?  Same conference as Illinois Wesleyan? 
When you mention "in-region", are you referring to the West Region vs. the Central Region?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 19, 2011, 09:29:05 AM
Quote from: El Hombre on March 19, 2011, 02:06:34 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 18, 2011, 01:44:23 PM
Wheaton (IL) is in-region(same-administraive region)... Wheaton (Mass) is not. Which do they play?

Isn't Wheaton (IL) in the CCIW?  Same conference as Illinois Wesleyan? 
When you mention "in-region", are you referring to the West Region vs. the Central Region?


I am referring to the NCAA's Administrative regions which is different than the other regions that teams are grouped into. Any team in your admin region counts as an in-region game. Any CCIW game vs just about anyone west of the Mississippi River is in-region.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 19, 2011, 10:01:18 AM
Administrative Region #4 includes:  TX, OK, Missouri (think WashUStL), IL, WI, ... westward.

FAQ Question #4 (http://www.d3baseball.com/interactive/faq/ncaaTournament).

Their answer is alphabetical.  I have listed the states on the map, south to north and by "contiguous" boundaries.  That is how I remember #4.  Admin region #2 is NY and PA.  Admin Region #1 is north of the Potomac River, beginning with WV and DC (minus NY and PA).  #3 is everything else.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 19, 2011, 03:04:49 PM
La  Verne  1  Chapman 0  end of  3
http://livestats.prestosports.com/laverne/bsb/?e=nj03f0lht8hzqof3
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 19, 2011, 03:05:33 PM
Quote from: ppfm on March 18, 2011, 09:06:50 PM
Don't count Pomona out too quickly.  A few blips and they seem to be back.  Won two against Macalester today, both shut outs.  SCIAC should be close up to the very end.  Colvin has been looking very strong. 

I am not giving up on them but they are not making it easy on themselves in the SCIAC.  They have to sweep at lease one series against Cal Lutheran or Redlands or they are digging themselves deeper into a hole.  I think the Colvin/Johnson matchup might be one of the best in the SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 19, 2011, 04:36:33 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 19, 2011, 03:04:49 PM
La  Verne  1  Chapman 0  end of  3
http://livestats.prestosports.com/laverne/bsb/?e=nj03f0lht8hzqof3

Tied 2-2 going into bottom of 9th at La Verne
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: goodolsciac on March 19, 2011, 05:02:02 PM
Is Rauh really in his 10th inning?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 19, 2011, 05:25:49 PM
2-2 bottom of 12th Chapman @ La Verne

Rauh pitched 10IP 9K 1ER
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 19, 2011, 05:53:48 PM
La Verne wins in the 12th 3-2 over Chapman. Chapman had 5 errors while Chapman pitching only gave up 1 earned run.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on March 19, 2011, 11:20:19 PM
LaVerne drops 2nd game of twinbill to Chapman, 6-2. The two teams meet again Sunday at
3 PM at Hart Park in Orange.
Info at chapmanathletics.com
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: El Hombre on March 21, 2011, 01:19:40 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 19, 2011, 10:01:18 AM
Administrative Region #4 includes:  TX, OK, Missouri (think WashUStL), IL, WI, ... westward.

FAQ Question #4 (http://www.d3baseball.com/interactive/faq/ncaaTournament).

Their answer is alphabetical.  I have listed the states on the map, south to north and by "contiguous" boundaries.  That is how I remember #4.  Admin region #2 is NY and PA.  Admin Region #1 is north of the Potomac River, beginning with WV and DC (minus NY and PA).  #3 is everything else.

Ralph -
To clarify, does that mean that when the SCIAC teams recently played Wabash College (from Indiana), the games were considered "in region" games?  However, the games against Kean (New Jersey) were NOT "in region"?

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 21, 2011, 01:33:01 AM
Quote from: El Hombre on March 21, 2011, 01:19:40 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 19, 2011, 10:01:18 AM
Administrative Region #4 includes:  TX, OK, Missouri (think WashUStL), IL, WI, ... westward.

FAQ Question #4 (http://www.d3baseball.com/interactive/faq/ncaaTournament).

Their answer is alphabetical.  I have listed the states on the map, south to north and by "contiguous" boundaries.  That is how I remember #4.  Admin region #2 is NY and PA.  Admin Region #1 is north of the Potomac River, beginning with WV and DC (minus NY and PA).  #3 is everything else.

Ralph -
To clarify, does that mean that when the SCIAC teams recently played Wabash College (from Indiana), the games were considered "in region" games?  However, the games against Kean (New Jersey) were NOT "in region"?


No. California and Indiana are in different administrative regions. Wisconsin and Illinois teams are the easternmost that would be considered in-region for CA teams. Likewise, a game between Michigan and Georgia teams is in-region.

See the link for the list of states.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: goodolsciac on March 26, 2011, 08:50:39 PM
La Verne sweeps the double header 7-5, 8-0 against the Kingsmen.  Game 3 tomorrow.  Conference starting to take shape.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 26, 2011, 09:06:04 PM
Quote from: goodolsciac on March 26, 2011, 08:50:39 PM
La Verne sweeps the double header 7-5, 8-0 against the Kingsmen.  Game 3 tomorrow.  Conference starting to take shape.

Starting to take shape????  All that does is bunch the top up even more.  Very impressive job by La Verne.  No word on Oxy and Pomona but I am sure Pomona swept.  CMS/Whittier doesn't have scores yet either.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on March 26, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
Pomona won 3-2  and 5-3.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: goodolsciac on March 27, 2011, 10:22:15 PM
Lol yeah take that back!  For some reason I didn't know the new SCIAC website updated standings in realtime.  Im used to the week delay on the old one  :D 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CMSfan on March 28, 2011, 01:22:49 AM
Stags sweep Whittier to extend their winning streak to nine games.  They've held opponents to two runs or fewer in seven of the last ten.

Go Stags!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: goodolsciac on March 29, 2011, 12:20:44 PM
Leopards take game 3 from the Kingsmen 10-7 on monday.

Current Standings

Redlands   12-3           18-6
La Verne                   11-4           16-10
Pomona-Pitzer           10-5         20-6
Cal Lutheran            9-5           15-10
CMS                            9-6           15-11
Occidental            4-10   8-17
Whittier                    4-11   12-14
Caltech                    0-15   0-18
This weeks predictions.

Redlands v Whittier - Redlands 2/3
La Verne v Cal Tech - La Verne 3/3
Pomona Pitzer v CLU - Pitzer    2/3
Occidental v CMS      -  CMS 3/3
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 03, 2011, 12:51:13 PM
Redlands on top controls there destiny to a SCIAC championship. La Verne, and Pomona are chasing them and will need help. CMS plays a spoiler role and can beat anyone on a given day.
Can Cal Lu catch up ?

Will any SCIAC team get a Pool C pid this year ? Strong teams in the ASC, NWC most likely will get the Pool C bids in the West.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on April 05, 2011, 08:23:43 PM
Tuesday final result: Chapman 4, CMS 2
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on April 06, 2011, 11:14:38 PM
Wednesday result: Chapman 4,  Cal Lu 2
(score is not a mistake)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 07, 2011, 12:19:48 AM
SCIAC Standings
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2010-11/standings
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: goodolsciac on April 08, 2011, 09:14:03 PM
La Verne blows 3 run lead in 8th and CMS wins by walk off single.

Redlands loses to Pitzer. 

EEEEEEEEEEEEnteresting.  Tied up at the top.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 09, 2011, 09:54:28 AM
SCIAC RACE
Redlands    14-5    
La Verne     14-5    
Pomona      13-6    
Claremont   12-7    
Cal Lu         11-7    
Whittier      6-13    
Occidental  5-13    
Caltech       0-19

It would be great IF the SCIAC conference went to a Conference Tourney for top 4 to determine the Conference champion for the Pool A bid.   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 10, 2011, 09:25:57 AM
Apr. 9 Scoreboard   
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 2    La Verne 4
Occidental    9 Whittier 5    
Pomona-Pitzer  2 Redlands 8
Cal Lutheran 16   Caltech 3
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 4 La Verne 0    
Pomona-Pitzer    6  Redlands 9
Occidental    1    Whittier 2
Cal Lutheran 12   Caltech    0    

Redlands stays on top in SCIAC. Pomona drops to 4th in SCIAC. La Verne is now only 1 game back from Redlands and Cal Lu is only 2 games out.
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2010-11/standings
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 16, 2011, 02:33:05 AM
Former Redlands president Dr Stuart Dorsey (http://www.ascsports.org/news/2011/4/14/GEN_0414115046.aspx) is now president at Texas Lutheran.
Title: SCIAC tie breaker
Post by: danglin dave on April 16, 2011, 02:09:58 PM
With the possibility of a two way or even a three way tie existing as the SCIAC season winds down, what are the tie breakers for deciding the conference winner and the automatic berth to the regional?  The top three teams all play one another in the next two weeks and while Pomona sits in fourth, they can ruin anybody's day at any time.  This is going to be fun to watch unfold.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 17, 2011, 01:29:46 PM
Quote from: danglin dave on April 16, 2011, 02:09:58 PM
With the possibility of a two way or even a three way tie existing as the SCIAC season winds down, what are the tie breakers for deciding the conference winner and the automatic berth to the regional?  The top three teams all play one another in the next two weeks and while Pomona sits in fourth, they can ruin anybody's day at any time.  This is going to be fun to watch unfold.
Since the race is so tight, it would have been nice to determine the Pool A bid with a top 4 team Conference Tourney. Conference Tourney's keep more teams in the race for Pool A and it also gives the team playing the best at the end, the Pool A bid. It also simulates playing in regional like format.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 17, 2011, 02:27:26 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 17, 2011, 01:29:46 PM
Quote from: danglin dave on April 16, 2011, 02:09:58 PM
With the possibility of a two way or even a three way tie existing as the SCIAC season winds down, what are the tie breakers for deciding the conference winner and the automatic berth to the regional?  The top three teams all play one another in the next two weeks and while Pomona sits in fourth, they can ruin anybody's day at any time.  This is going to be fun to watch unfold.
Since the race is so tight, it would have been nice to determine the Pool A bid with a top 4 team Conference Tourney. Conference Tourney's keep more teams in the race for Pool A and it also gives the team playing the best at the end, the Pool A bid. It also simulates playing in regional like format.
Unfortunately, it puts 2 more losses on the record for Pool C consideration.
Title: Re: SCIAC tie breaker
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 18, 2011, 05:59:50 PM
Quote from: danglin dave on April 16, 2011, 02:09:58 PM
With the possibility of a two way or even a three way tie existing as the SCIAC season winds down, what are the tie breakers for deciding the conference winner and the automatic berth to the regional?  The top three teams all play one another in the next two weeks and while Pomona sits in fourth, they can ruin anybody's day at any time.  This is going to be fun to watch unfold.

I think that possibility is all but gone.  Redlands came back twice this weekend (down 8-0 to Oxy and down 6-3 late in the game against La Verne) and took all 3 (whipped Cal Lutheran).  Redlands really only has to win 2 more games and they win the SCIAC. 

Hats off to Redlands for the big comeback on Friday but I was looking at the stats and cant help but notice that Oxy played some unbelieveably stupid baseball.  Oxy tried to steal home with 2 outs in the 7th inning with a 9-3 lead.  Against a team that hits the crap out of the ball (not to mention Oxy's terrible pitching and D) I just don't see that as being smart.  Oxy had a chance to play spoiler but failed to do so.  I think it is time for Oxy and Whittier to make a coaching change.  Neither of those schools have done anything in a real long time but they continue to run out the same coaches.  Ok, enough of my rant.  Redlands wins the SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 21, 2011, 05:08:40 PM
SCIAC BASEBALL THIS WEEKEND

Apr. 22
Whittier   Occidental   3:00 PM   
Caltech   Cal Lutheran   3:00 PM   
La Verne   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   3:00 PM   
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Apr. 23
Cal Lutheran   Whittier   1:00 PM   
Pomona-Pitzer   Caltech   1:00 PM   
Occidental   La Verne   1:00 PM 
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   Redlands   3:00 PM 
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Apr. 24  Redlands   Pomona-Pitzer   1:00 PM   
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The SCIAC was founded in 1915 with five member schools with the goals to promote amateurism in athletics. The five founding members, all whom are still members, are California Institute of Technology, Occidental College, Pomona College, the University of Redlands, and Whittier College. Although all five original charter members are still affiliated with the SCIAC, only two, Occidental and Redlands, have had uninterrupted membership. At one time, most of the colleges were the Southern California affiliates of various Christian sects such as the Quakers and the Presbyterians. Today, only California Lutheran University maintains an affiliation with a church.

There are four former members of the SCIAC: the University of California, Los Angeles, San Diego State University, the University of California, Santa Barbara, and Chapman University. Three of the former members now compete in NCAA Division I athletics. The other, Chapman, is a NCAA Division III independent.

Voting in May to see if Chapman rejoins the SCIAC.   ???


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on April 21, 2011, 05:59:17 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 21, 2011, 05:08:40 PM
There are four former members of the SCIAC: the University of California, Los Angeles, San Diego State University, the University of California, Santa Barbara, and Chapman University. Three of the former members now compete in NCAA Division I athletics. The other, Chapman, is a NCAA Division III independent.
Bring back the Bruins. :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cludad on April 22, 2011, 11:10:04 PM
why doesnt the sciac drop cal tech and add chapman as a member, tech just doesnt seem to be very good in any athletics.(students smarts are a different story),but just talking strength of confrence.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on April 23, 2011, 09:44:20 AM
Quote from: cludad on April 22, 2011, 11:10:04 PM
why doesnt the sciac drop cal tech and add chapman as a member, tech just doesnt seem to be very good in any athletics.(students smarts are a different story),but just talking strength of confrence.

Not sure why Caltech even has sports. Unlike most schools, they're probably not gaining any students by virtue of having them, and they're certainly not getting any money off them. Seems like a big money sink that they could better spend on something else.

Anyone know why Caltech maintains an athetlcs department?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 23, 2011, 10:46:04 AM
Athletics is part of an overall education for those who choose to make it a part of their on-campus experience.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 23, 2011, 12:05:31 PM
Quote from: forheavendial4999 on April 23, 2011, 09:44:20 AM
Quote from: cludad on April 22, 2011, 11:10:04 PM
why doesnt the sciac drop cal tech and add chapman as a member, tech just doesnt seem to be very good in any athletics.(students smarts are a different story),but just talking strength of confrence.

Not sure why Caltech even has sports. Unlike most schools, they're probably not gaining any students by virtue of having them, and they're certainly not getting any money off them. Seems like a big money sink that they could better spend on something else.

Anyone know why Caltech maintains an athetlcs department?
I support Cal Tech having athletics I just think they should play it at a club level.  Sports teaches team work that can no be taught in classroom.

Here is a great link on the benefits of college athletics.

http://www.redpenguinathletics.com/benefits.shtml
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasBB on April 23, 2011, 02:13:55 PM
Oberlin College in the OAC is another example of a school that never had much success in sports. However, they are also a have a strong academic tradition and have fully participated in all team sports at the DIII level both men and womens. Every now and then they would put a good team together in one sport or another and compete.

There should always be room for colleges to play sports in a conference. Cal Tech being in the conference should not stop Chapman from joining. Schedules can alway be worked around to make things work.

Texas BB

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on April 23, 2011, 02:24:12 PM
I suggest you read their web site.  Go to the power point presentation.

http://www.gocaltech.com/prospective_athlete/index

http://www.gocaltech.com/information/Mission_Statement
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on April 23, 2011, 05:06:08 PM
Quote from: cludad on April 22, 2011, 11:10:04 PM
why doesnt the sciac drop cal tech and add chapman as a member, tech just doesnt seem to be very good in any athletics.(students smarts are a different story),but just talking strength of confrence.
Chapman will not become a member unless they truly understand why Cal Tech matters.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on April 23, 2011, 06:41:28 PM
Gray Fox:

Are you implying that Chapman will become a member of SCIAC if they truly understand why Cal Tech matters?

If your answer is no, then why make the statement?

If your answer is yes, then am I to assume that you have seen the criteria list?

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on April 23, 2011, 07:54:37 PM
Quote from: dahlby on April 23, 2011, 06:41:28 PM
Gray Fox:

Are you implying that Chapman will become a member of SCIAC if they truly understand why Cal Tech matters?

If your answer is no, then why make the statement?

If your answer is yes, then am I to assume that you have seen the criteria list?


I have been following the SCIAC for fifty years.  I think I have a good feel for how they think as a group.  Cal Tech would only be one issue being considered, but I think it reflects the philosophy of the SCIAC and D3.  This has been discussed many times before as you know..
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: beachlover on April 23, 2011, 10:45:07 PM
Redlands over CMS 12-6 today, celebrating their 100th year of baseball.   Lots of alums, coaches, friends and family in the stands and on the field for the ceremonies.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on April 23, 2011, 10:56:45 PM
Gray Fox:

You appear (to me at least) to have dodged my posting. I have only been following D3 for going on 25 years, and following Chapman, and their philosophy regarding athletics, since before switching to D3 from D2.

The change of divisions for Chapman has brought in a different overall type of student.  The term student athlete as it applies to D3 is part of that Chapman philosophy. Every year Chapman produces scholar athletes in almost every sport.

There are reasons that Chapman might be offered membership in SCIAC, and reasons they might not. I don't think that understanding why Cal Tech matters is applicable, as Chapman does stress the student athlete D3 philosophy.

Athletics will continue to be a critical part of the college experience at Chapman, whether they do or do not receive an invitation from SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: El Hombre on April 24, 2011, 12:13:43 PM
Quote from: beachlover on April 23, 2011, 10:45:07 PM
Redlands over CMS 12-6 today, celebrating their 100th year of baseball.   Lots of alums, coaches, friends and family in the stands and on the field for the ceremonies.

Redlands should officially wrap up the SCIAC title today with a win against Pomona Pitzer.  The West Region is starting to take shape.   I expect them to be joined by Linfield, Texas-Tyler, Chapman, and Trinity.  I do not expect any other SCIAC teams to make it via a pool C bid. 

Who might join this group? 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 24, 2011, 07:58:01 PM
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.goredlands.com%2Fimages%2Fbsb%2F2011%2F11BSB_SCIAC_Champs.jpg&hash=54e36c231bab14784e15e522e409f43cd8f2030f)

http://www.goredlands.com/sports/bsb/2010-11/releases/20110424mx0o84
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 26, 2011, 03:16:26 PM
Redlands has beaten 2nd place Cal Lu 3 games to 1 and La Verne 3 games to 1 this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DoubleDomer on April 30, 2011, 02:37:41 PM
Concerning the recent comment: "I support Cal Tech having athletics I just think they should play it at a club level."

In the interest of full and fair debate, I should note that I personally support Chapman having academic courses, I just think they should be at a club level.   ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on April 30, 2011, 02:47:22 PM
Personally, whenever I read about or watch a Cal Tech sporting event, I think of the true meaning of D3 athletics. Student-Athlete, student coming first.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DoubleDomer on April 30, 2011, 02:52:04 PM
Amen.  Wish there were more like them.  These kids embody the literal meaning of amateur.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: playball on April 30, 2011, 09:27:48 PM
DoubleDomer, Im kind of impressed.  21 posts, -18 karma.  It takes a true hater to achieve such a level so quickly.   

As for Caltech, yeah they don't have the greatest sports programs.  I'm sure they know this also.  However, these kids are living their dreams out by playing collegiately, a level that most other people never are able to.  So more power to them!   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DoubleDomer on May 01, 2011, 02:57:45 PM
Uh, well, that's kind of EXACTLY what I was saying.  "Amateur" derives from the Latin amator, or "lover."  It's a high compliment in my book--referring to STUDENT-athletes who compete for love of the competition and the game rather than for the puffery and bluster and shenanigans that infect college sports at all levels.

As for my karma rating--and apropos of my comment immediately above on bluster and shenanigans--you'll see (if you track my post history) that those negative points were hard earned with the lower primates on the WIAC board, debating whether the august institution of higher learning known as UW-Whitewater (if you don't know them, just think of them as the ANTI-CalTech) should be competing in Division III football at all.  (Here's a hint:  It should not, and a sensitive statistical analysis proves it, but that's not the kind of bread and circuses that the WIAC crowd embraces.)

So--nice to meet you.  Sorry you mistook my point.  Guess I'll be more literal in the future.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 01, 2011, 05:04:37 PM
Quote from: DoubleDomer on May 01, 2011, 02:57:45 PM
Uh, well, that's kind of EXACTLY what I was saying.  "Amateur" derives from the Latin amator, or "lover."  It's a high compliment in my book--referring to STUDENT-athletes who compete for love of the competition and the game rather than for the puffery and bluster and shenanigans that infect college sports at all levels.

As for my karma rating--and apropos of my comment immediately above on bluster and shenanigans--you'll see (if you track my post history) that those negative points were hard earned with the lower primates on the WIAC board, debating whether the august institution of higher learning known as UW-Whitewater (if you don't know them, just think of them as the ANTI-CalTech) should be competing in Division III football at all.  (Here's a hint:  It should not, and a sensitive statistical analysis proves it, but that's not the kind of bread and circuses that the WIAC crowd embraces.)

So--nice to meet you.  Sorry you mistook my point.  Guess I'll be more literal in the future.
Danny Jones would disagree about UWW, but your fight is worth a +k from me. :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 12, 2011, 11:29:07 PM
Chapman joins SCIAC Conference
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/chapman-300295-conference-california.html
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on May 13, 2011, 04:40:07 PM
And a big HELLO to OxyBob. Miss you. Muah.

Please don't tell me part of the invitation was that the Bikini Run was to be eliminated.
HEY! When IS that. I do not want to miss my first 'participation'.  I already missed this:

http://www.ocregister.com/news/-299995--.html

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 13, 2011, 07:13:25 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on May 13, 2011, 04:40:07 PM
And a big HELLO to OxyBob. Miss you. Muah.

Please don't tell me part of the invitation was that the Bikini Run was to be eliminated.
HEY! When IS that. I do not want to miss my first 'participation'.  I already missed this:

http://www.ocregister.com/news/-299995--.html


You must have missed it.
http://www.chapmanlife.com/2011/05/chapman-undie-run-spring-2011/
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 13, 2011, 07:19:45 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on May 13, 2011, 07:13:25 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on May 13, 2011, 04:40:07 PM
And a big HELLO to OxyBob. Miss you. Muah.

Please don't tell me part of the invitation was that the Bikini Run was to be eliminated.
HEY! When IS that. I do not want to miss my first 'participation'.  I already missed this:

http://www.ocregister.com/news/-299995--.html


You must have missed it.
http://www.chapmanlife.com/2011/05/chapman-undie-run-spring-2011/

From the announcement..


Quote(No clothing donations this year)... The cloths we get are to gross...

I think the reason for the probationary period for Chapman is to allow the Chapman admissions people a couple of years to matriculate some better spellers.   ;)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on May 15, 2011, 03:14:37 PM
Thanks CDD3.  I missed the announcement but I have not missed the affair.

OxyBob....care to join me Wednesday night to size up the competition?

Ralph, perhaps loin cloths are not being accepted this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 15, 2011, 03:17:47 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on May 15, 2011, 03:14:37 PM
Thanks CDD3.  I missed the announcement but I have not missed the affair.

OxyBob....care to join me Wednesday night to size up the competition?

Ralph, perhaps loin cloths are not being accepted this year.
+1!    LOL

I know that most of the posters on these boards would gross me out in their loin cloths!

Great recovery!   :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on June 01, 2011, 10:25:11 AM
Good job by the red headed SCIAC step child in taking a 2nd place trophy in the national tournament.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on June 01, 2011, 11:18:22 AM
Chapman which has lost many games to SCIAC teams in 2009 and 2011. 2009 2nd place and 2011 3rd place. Not bad for the NEW MEMBER of the SCIAC
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ppfm on June 07, 2011, 09:34:55 PM
Pomona Pitzer does it again!  RHP David Colvin drafted by the Seattle Mariners in the 27th round!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on June 08, 2011, 02:41:44 PM
Quote from: ppfm on June 07, 2011, 09:34:55 PM
Pomona Pitzer does it again!  RHP David Colvin drafted by the Seattle Mariners in the 27th round!

You say this as if P-P is the only SCIAC school to ever have a guy drafted.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on June 08, 2011, 02:43:35 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on June 08, 2011, 02:41:44 PM
Quote from: ppfm on June 07, 2011, 09:34:55 PM
Pomona Pitzer does it again!  RHP David Colvin drafted by the Seattle Mariners in the 27th round!

You say this as if P-P is the only SCIAC school to ever have a guy drafted.
With Chapman now part of the SCIAC. I know of 1 guy from Chapman that will be drafted in 2012.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on June 08, 2011, 07:53:20 PM
Other SCIAC players

http://www.oxy.edu/x11394.xml

Belter was the first of four athletes - all right-handed pitchers - from the Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference picked thus far in the draft. The others include David Colvin of Pomona-Pitzer, Ian Durham of Cal Lutheran, and Alexander Sunderland of Claremont McKenna.

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Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on September 26, 2011, 06:08:21 PM
New SCIAC League Member Chapman University will not be eligible for the Pool A Playoff Bid which goes to the Conference Champion. Will this mean in 2012 they can only get a Pool C bid. Last year Chapman was a Pool B Bid playoff team that finished 2nd in the nation to Marietta losing to them in the Championship Game.

Chapman only loses 3 starters. 2 hitters/position players(Hadzinsky/Kordich) and only 1 pitcher(Sigman). Keys will be a healthy team/arms if they are to return to West Regional and make a run at a return trip back to Appleton.  ;D

2011 Stats Link (http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2010-11/files/teamcume.htm)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on September 26, 2011, 07:27:21 PM
CDD3:
Chapman will only qualify for the tourney thru a Pool C bid.

The conference controls the auto bid winner (the SCIAC in this case set the policy). If a Pool A hopeful team (which CU would then become) doesn't earn it, they would then drop to a Pool C hopeful (NCAA policy).
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 26, 2011, 10:05:07 PM
The mechanism for Pool C includes results against Regionally Ranked teams.  If Pool C Chapman sweeps the SCIAC Pool A, then more than likely Chapman is high enough in the regional rankings to earn the Pool C bid. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on October 20, 2011, 06:45:07 PM
OC Weekly names Tereschuk 'Best Coach' in the county

In the looming, elephantine shadow of NCAA Division I colossus Cal State Fullerton—and the somewhat-more-elongated, bushy-tailed shadow of the emerging UC Irvine program—Tom Tereschuk has quietly built his non-scholarship baseball squad into a pint-sized powerhouse. A former star pitcher and quarterback at Lakewood High and Long Beach City College, Tereschuk went on to pitch at University of San Diego. After building a stellar reputation as a high-school coach at Servite and Villa Park (he was honored as California Interscholastic Federation Southern Section Coach of the Year in 2000 and 2002), he debuted as Chapman University's coach in 2003 and promptly led his team to a national championship that same year (its first in 35 years). In 2011, his squad made it all the way to the final game before succumbing to Ohio's dreaded Marietta College.  During that campaign, Tereschuk topped the 300-win plateau. That's exactly the kind of performance that got him named this year's American Baseball Coaches Association's NCAA Division III West Region Coach of the Year—to go along with the six other times he's earned that title. He has a reputation for toughness, but he also knows when to be supportive. "I remember as a freshman, during regionals, I struck out, and I was afraid that [Tereschuk] was going to be upset," infielder Tyler Hadzinsky told The Panther newspaper this year. "Instead, he gave me the confidence to keep going and was very encouraging. . . . I ended up hitting a home run that game." Good job, coach. And get those Pioneers next year.

http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20111019ne4pom

http://www.ocweekly.com/bestof/2011/award/best-coach-1144239/
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on November 07, 2011, 03:43:19 PM
Chapman 2012 Schedule is now on their website.

Looks like Chapman has a very challenging schedule in West. Cal Lu only plays Chapman once??

Chapman has top teams from the NWC, SCIAC, SCAC conferences and of course Kean on its 2012 schedule

Chapman can only get a Pool C bid this year. No longer eligible for Pool B and not eligible yet for the SCIAC Pool A bid. Is this correct.

Also I see 4 games scheduled for March 17th. Is that correct? 6 games in 3 days??

2012 Schedule link here (http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: El Hombre on November 07, 2011, 09:39:12 PM
CDD3 -
The schedule appears to have a typo - I think the games scheduled for March 17 -18 are versus La Verne.  The Occidental series is the weekend of Feb. 17 - 18. 

I agree with your assessment regarding the schedule - it looks to be very tough! 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on November 07, 2011, 10:17:59 PM
Quote from: El Hombre on November 07, 2011, 09:39:12 PM
CDD3 -
The schedule appears to have a typo - I think the games scheduled for March 17 -18 are versus La Verne.  The Occidental series is the weekend of Feb. 17 - 18. 

I agree with your assessment regarding the schedule - it looks to be very tough! 
Per Occidental Schedule March 16/17 with Chapman
http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule

Also last year Chapman did play Wheaton 3 times in a single day last year. CRAZY....

SCIAC schedule shows Chapman playing four games on March 17th with SCIAC teams.
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on November 07, 2011, 10:19:19 PM
Chapman's schedule has to rank as one of the toughest in the country.
The Panthers will play a full SCIAC schedule next year and will be able to vie for the auto-bid.
I emailed the SID regarding the posted schedule with 4 games in one day and will post when I hear back.

Chapman/Wheaton played 3 times last year due to rain. Wheaton flew out just to play CU three times, but rain played havoc
with the schedule, so they played 3 in a day.....that would have impressed Ernie Banks!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on November 08, 2011, 07:57:49 AM
Quote from: dahlby on November 07, 2011, 10:19:19 PM
Chapman's schedule has to rank as one of the toughest in the country.
The Panthers will play a full SCIAC schedule next year and will be able to vie for the auto-bid.
I emailed the SID regarding the posted schedule with 4 games in one day and will post when I hear back.

Chapman/Wheaton played 3 times last year due to rain. Wheaton flew out just to play CU three times, but rain played havoc
with the schedule, so they played 3 in a day.....that would have impressed Ernie Banks!
"It's a great day for a ball game; let's play two!" Ernie Banks

"It's a great day for a ball game; let's play two! Three FOUR" Chapman
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on November 08, 2011, 11:48:51 AM
I was told by the Trinity coach that they were working on a home/away series with Chapman. They will come to Trinity this year and next year Trinity will go to Chapman. Would be nice to see these two strong programs develop a bit of a cross country rivalry.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on November 08, 2011, 12:11:19 PM
That series will start this season with Chapman traveling to Trinity in early March. CU had a good relationship with Ralph's MC
and hopefully this series will pick up where that series left off. I think the rivalry is already there from previous games.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on November 08, 2011, 05:07:17 PM
The corrections have been made  to the schedule on the Chapman baseball website at  chapmanathletics.com
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on November 08, 2011, 09:21:40 PM
Southwest just put on a sale and got my tickets to SA see all three. Should be fun.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on November 21, 2011, 08:47:36 AM
Chapman Baseball beats Chapman football at football  ;D

Read more here (http://www.thepantheronline.com/sports/baseball-beats-football-at-football-1.2697426#.TspV8JVmJqM%7D%5C)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on November 21, 2011, 07:21:49 PM
Quote from: CDD3 on November 21, 2011, 08:47:36 AM
Chapman Baseball beats Chapman football at football  ;D

Read more here (http://www.thepantheronline.com/sports/baseball-beats-football-at-football-1.2697426#.TspV8JVmJqM%7D%5C)
Good to know.  I will pick them last in next years SCIAC football pick'em contest. :-X
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on November 29, 2011, 08:26:21 AM
Baseball season for 2012 starts in the SCIAC on January 21, 2012

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule


"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
Rogers Hornsby
8-) 8-) 8-)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on November 29, 2011, 09:03:10 PM
Chapman in 2012 will need to fill the holes left with 3 key seniors from 2011 gone in 2012 to make it back to the West Regional and CWS again. Chapman has made the Regional playoffs in 15 of the last 16 years and made it to the CWS 10 times during the same period. Chapman seems to just reload and not rebuild but will have a tough 2012 schedule attempting to get a Pool C bid. Chapman has its alumni game on January 28th and open with Whittier on February 3rd.

2B Tyler Hadzinsky
Hadzinsky led the baseball team in batting average (.331) and stolen bases (16)
ABCA All-West Region team
Three-time All-Independent
Three-time ESPN Academic All-District VIII team.
2 time Student-Athlete of the Year by the Association of Division III Independents.
Played in 3 West Regionals and 2 College World Series
2011 Nine doubles 30 RBI 25 double plays .962 fielding percentage.

C Adam Kordich
Team MVP
West Regional MVP
ABCA All-West Region second team
Chapman's leader in home runs, RBI and on-base percentage in 2011
Six home runs 38 RBI .303 BA .457 Slugging % .433 OBP.
Help the pitchers to a 2.96 team ERA
Threw out 22 basestealers

RHP Jordan Sigman
2 time West All-Region
Chapman career wins leader at 35-15 Innings pitched 373 Career Starts 58
2011 W-L 8-3 record 62 strikeouts 91 2/3 innings 3.34 ERA opponents batted .257 against him
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: El Hombre on November 29, 2011, 09:12:32 PM
Quote from: CDD3 on November 29, 2011, 08:26:21 AM
Baseball season for 2012 starts in the SCIAC on January 21, 2012

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule


"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
Rogers Hornsby
8-) 8-) 8-)

CDD3 -
Thank you for the SCIAC schedule information. 
Any idea what is happening on March 17?  It shows Chapman playing Occidental and La Verne? 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on November 30, 2011, 01:35:35 PM
Quote from: El Hombre on November 29, 2011, 09:12:32 PM
Quote from: CDD3 on November 29, 2011, 08:26:21 AM
Baseball season for 2012 starts in the SCIAC on January 21, 2012

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule


"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
Rogers Hornsby
8-) 8-) 8-)

CDD3 -
Thank you for the SCIAC schedule information. 
Any idea what is happening on March 17?  It shows Chapman playing Occidental and La Verne? 
It looks wrong also on the Chapman site and SCIAC site. Looks like a error that has not been corrected yet. I have a hardcopy Chapman schedule that shows playing March 17 DH with La Verne
Playing Occidental Feb 17 and DH on Feb 18.
SCIAC Site
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule

Chapman site
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule

Occidental site
http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule

La Verne has not posted their 2012 schedule yet.  :o
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: El Hombre on November 30, 2011, 02:41:45 PM
Quote from: CDD3 on November 30, 2011, 01:35:35 PM
Quote from: El Hombre on November 29, 2011, 09:12:32 PM
Quote from: CDD3 on November 29, 2011, 08:26:21 AM
Baseball season for 2012 starts in the SCIAC on January 21, 2012

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule


"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
Rogers Hornsby
8-) 8-) 8-)

CDD3 -
Thank you for the SCIAC schedule information. 
Any idea what is happening on March 17?  It shows Chapman playing Occidental and La Verne? 
It looks wrong also on the Chapman site and SCIAC site. Looks like a error that has not been corrected yet. I have a hardcopy Chapman schedule that shows playing March 17 DH with La Verne
Playing Occidental Feb 17 and DH on Feb 18.
SCIAC Site
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule

Chapman site
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule

Occidental site
http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule

La Verne has not posted their 2012 schedule yet.  :o


The Occidental site has Redlands scheduled on Feb. 17 and 18.   The Redlands site has the same.  It appears that Chapman needs to reschedule the Occidental series.  The SCIAC schedule shows Chapman playing 4 games from 1PM through 9PM - now that would be quite a feat!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on November 30, 2011, 05:45:34 PM
The Chapman baseball schedule has been corrected.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on November 30, 2011, 08:22:42 PM
Quote from: dahlby on November 30, 2011, 05:45:34 PM
The Chapman baseball schedule has been corrected.

Still looks strange. Not sure about the Occidental game for 2/17, 2/18. Redlands and Occidental schedules show them playing each other these days. So who is right? Chapman schedule shows them playing Occidental on those days also.

http://www.goredlands.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule

OXY schedule now looks crazy on 2/17, 2/18 now.

http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule

Do we need the Cal Tech guys to fix the schedule for Oxy, SCIAC, Chapman and Redlands...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on November 30, 2011, 08:44:59 PM
I advised the Chapman SID of the schedule situation and he made the corrections on the web site. That is what I go by.
Maybe you should contact the web master for the SCIAC board...I don't know what else to do. But, the school's individual web sites are probably the best to go by, as long as the coach's have kept their SID's in the loop.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on November 30, 2011, 08:49:52 PM
So if Chapman's website is correct then Redlands & Oxy sites must be wrong then....

Thanks !!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: El Hombre on December 11, 2011, 12:31:08 AM
Quote from: CDD3 on November 30, 2011, 08:49:52 PM
So if Chapman's website is correct then Redlands & Oxy sites must be wrong then....

Thanks !!

It appears the conflict on the SCIAC schedule for the weekend of Feb. 17 - 18 has been resolved.  Occidental is scheduled to play Redlands and is NOT scheduled to face Chapman at all during the season.  Chapman adds a game versus Cal State San Marcos.  Based on the previous success of the "in-region" teams Chapman will face in 2012, Chapman's SOS may be even higher than it was in 2011 (SOS rank #9 of 370).
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on December 11, 2011, 12:51:37 PM
Quote from: El Hombre on December 11, 2011, 12:31:08 AM
Quote from: CDD3 on November 30, 2011, 08:49:52 PM
So if Chapman's website is correct then Redlands & Oxy sites must be wrong then....

Thanks !!

It appears the conflict on the SCIAC schedule for the weekend of Feb. 17 - 18 has been resolved.  Occidental is scheduled to play Redlands and is NOT scheduled to face Chapman at all during the season.  Chapman adds a game versus Cal State San Marcos.  Based on the previous success of the "in-region" teams Chapman will face in 2012, Chapman's SOS may be even higher than it was in 2011 (SOS rank #9 of 370).
High SOS is key for 2012 for Chapman. They will now be in the much stronger Pool C bids. In the past they were in the weaker Pool B bids. Chapman can not win a Pool A SCIAC AQ bid in 2012. Chapman should be strong again if they remain injury free in 2012. They should be back at the West Regional again.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on December 15, 2011, 07:39:23 AM
REVISED SCIAC SCHEDULED

SCIAC Baseball starts with Cal Tech on January 21, 2012 and ends on May 5, 2012 with Redlands/Chapman playing a double header
2012 Schedule (http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on December 23, 2011, 11:42:00 AM
Preseason Polls have Chapman, Redlands, Cal Lu, and Pomona from the SCIAC. 

+ La Verne

http://www.baseballnews.com/polls/divIII/currentpolldiviii.htm
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: El Hombre on December 23, 2011, 12:00:57 PM
Quote from: CDD3 on December 23, 2011, 11:42:00 AM
Preseason Polls have Chapman, Redlands, Cal Lu, and Pomona from the SCIAC.

http://www.baseballnews.com/polls/divIII/currentpolldiviii.htm

The poll also lists La Verne.  That is 5 teams from a conference of 9 all nationally ranked.  That's a pretty strong conference!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on December 23, 2011, 12:59:41 PM
Quote from: El Hombre on December 23, 2011, 12:00:57 PM
Quote from: CDD3 on December 23, 2011, 11:42:00 AM
Preseason Polls have Chapman, Redlands, Cal Lu, and Pomona from the SCIAC.

http://www.baseballnews.com/polls/divIII/currentpolldiviii.htm

The poll also lists La Verne.  That is 5 teams from a conference of 9 all nationally ranked.  That's a pretty strong conference!
Only 2 will make it to the playoffs...Conference winner will get the Pool A and then the others will fight for a Pool C bid. Chapman in 2012 can NOT get a Pool A bid. SCIAC looks like the strongest conference in the Nation.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on December 26, 2011, 01:18:52 PM
SCIAC 2012 Preview

2012 Collegiate Baseball Poll
#2 Chapman
#15 Redlands
Cal Lutheran
Pomona-Pitzer
La Verne

2011 Records
1) Chapman(37-13)
2) Redlands(30-13)
3) Pomona-Pitzer(27-12)
4) La Verne(25-14)
5) Cal Lutheran(25-15)
6) Claremont-Mudd-Scripps(23-17)
7) Occidental(13-26)
8) Whittier(16-23)
9) Cal Tech(0-31)

Top Returning Pitchers
Brian Rauh-CU(11-0) 16 G 113 IP  133 K 1.74 ERA
Bryron Minnich-CLU(3-0) 24 G 40 IP 46 K 1.80 ERA
John LaMoure-CLU(7-4) 13 G 71 IP 59 K 2.13 ERA
Christian Maietta-CU(6-3) 16 G 75 IP 59 K 3.21 ERA
David Ulrich-CMS(5-3) 14 G 88 IP 69 K 3.38 ERA
N. Rollon-ULV(6-2) 13 G 57 IP 36 K 3.63 ERA
Peter Ciaramitaro-CLU 13 G 70 IP 51 K 3.97 ERA
Kyle Hart-UR(9-3) 18 G 88 IP 80 SO 3.97 ERA

Top Returning Hitters
Nick Boggan-CLU .409 AVG .492 OB% .698 SLG% 61 H 
Logan Allen-OXY .398 AVG .460 OB% .480 SLG% 49 H
Andrew Vallejo-WC .392 AVG .457 OB% .627 SLG% 60 H 
J. Ludvik-ULV .381 AVG .489 OB% .540 SLG% 53 H
Chase Tucker-UR .381 AVG .451 OB% .613 SLG% 64 H
Jake Henning-UR .373 AVG .433 OB% .609 SLG% 60 H

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2010-11/stats/lgsumm.htm























Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on December 27, 2011, 12:08:55 AM
Quote from: CDD3 on December 26, 2011, 01:18:52 PM
SCIAC 2012 Preview

2012 Collegiate Baseball Poll
#2 Chapman
#15 Redlands
Cal Lutheran
Pomona-Pitzer
La Verne

2011 Records
1) Chapman(37-13)
2) Redlands(30-13)
3) Pomona-Pitzer(27-12)
4) La Verne(25-14)
5) Cal Lutheran(25-15)
6) Claremont-Mudd-Scripps(23-17)
7) Occidental(13-26)
8) Whittier(16-23)
9) Cal Tech(0-31)

Top Returning Pitchers
Brian Rauh-CU(11-0) 16 G 113 IP  133 K 1.74 ERA
Bryron Minnich-CLU(3-0) 24 G 40 IP 46 K 1.80 ERA
John LaMoure-CLU(7-4) 13 G 71 IP 59 K 2.13 ERA
Christian Maietta-CU(6-3) 16 G 75 IP 59 K 3.21 ERA
David Ulrich-CMS(5-3) 14 G 88 IP 69 K 3.38 ERA
N. Rollon-ULV(6-2) 13 G 57 IP 36 K 3.63 ERA
Peter Ciaramitaro-CLU 13 G 70 IP 51 K 3.97 ERA
Kyle Hart-UR(9-3) 18 G 88 IP 80 SO 3.97 ERA

Top Returning Hitters
Nick Boggan-CLU .409 AVG .492 OB% .698 SLG% 61 H 
Logan Allen-OXY .398 AVG .460 OB% .480 SLG% 49 H
Andrew Vallejo-WC .392 AVG .457 OB% .627 SLG% 60 H 
J. Ludvik-ULV .381 AVG .489 OB% .540 SLG% 53 H
Chase Tucker-UR .381 AVG .451 OB% .613 SLG% 64 H
Jake Henning-UR .373 AVG .433 OB% .609 SLG% 60 H

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2010-11/stats/lgsumm.htm
























Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CA_dreamin on December 30, 2011, 11:03:50 PM
Great update on returners, CDD3.

Here's some info on losses in SCIAC:

OXY: Not good
Hilliard, cleanup.  Garrett, catcher. Pomerantz and Belter, Very good pitchers.

LaVerne:  Very Bad
Munoz and Munoz, #2 and # 5 hitters. Pelta and Buckley, #3 and #4.  Plus starting pitchers Larini and Baudino.

Chapman:  Has depth to fill in losses.
Sigman, starting pitcher.  Burnett and Kordich, #3 and #4 batters.

Redlands:  Losses, but can recover.
Johnson, starting pitcher one of the best.  Carlson and Owashi, .383 and .352 respectively.

Pomona-Pitzer: Two more big holes (third year in a row)
Fredericks, #3 hitter.  Colvin, also one of the best starting pitchers.

Cal Lu: Losses at plate, but can recover
Judge, #4, Michelin #5, Galliant #6.  Durham, starting pitcher.

CMS:  Can recover with one arm
Gose, #2 hitter.  Sunderland, also one of the best starting pitchers.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on December 31, 2011, 12:02:46 AM
Chapman lost only 3 starters and if healthy should be very strong again but must find players to fill these holes and they play maybe the toughest schedule in the nation.

#2 Pitcher Sigman 4 year starter Chapman career wins leader 3rd team All-West Region

Catcher Kordich Team MVP, West Regionals MVP, 2nd team All West Region. Chapman's leader in home runs, RBI and on-base percentage in 2011

Second baseman Hadzinsky 3 year starter. Led the Chapman offense with a .331 average and 16 stolen bases. 3rd team All-West Region. 3 time Academic All-District selection
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CA_dreamin on January 01, 2012, 12:58:19 PM
Doesn't Hadzinsky have another year?

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 01, 2012, 04:32:15 PM
Hadzinsky was not on the roster his Academic Freshman year and did not play baseball.

In 2011 academically I believe he was a Senior but for Baseball a Junior. He does have a year left of eligiblity. I know he graduated in 2011.

I could be wrong but I believe he will not be coming back to play in 2012 and I believe he is now working fulltime

BUT

He could always change his mind and take classes in the spring and would be eligible to play baseball in 2012.

Does anyone else have any additional information on this?

NCAA in D3 allow players to play 4 years over a 5 year period.

There are no true redshirts at the D3 Level . If you are not on the roster you can not practice or be involved in any baseball related activities. Players can not redshirt as freshmen for non-medical reasons.

NCAA had Medical Hardships to extend eligibility only at the D3 level. There are very strict rules in D3 for playing more than 4 years with a team. If you are injured you can apply for a Medical Hardship to play an additional year but it depends on how many games the player has particpated in and how many games the team has played. NCAA does not grant ever application for Medical Hardship either.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 07, 2012, 11:25:53 AM
2012 Baseball in 14 days  Cal Tech on January 21st

Link to Cal Tech Baseball (http://www.gocaltech.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule)  8-) ;D :D :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BBFan62 on January 07, 2012, 01:14:19 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on January 07, 2012, 11:25:53 AM
2012 Baseball in 14 days  Cal Tech on January 21st

Link to Cal Tech Baseball (http://www.gocaltech.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule)  8-) ;D :D :)

CDD3
Lucky Guys! We don't start until 3/11. After looking at the Cal Tech schedule I also understand why so many guys out west get 12 - 13 starts. There is plenty of days between many of the games, so the "top guns" can get a few more starts.
For example, looking at our schedule, we play our first 8 games  from 3/11 - 3/17, so a guy would most likely get 2 starts, assuming 3 days between starts. CAL Tech starts could get4 starts in the first 8 games. Our top starters might get 10 starts. We play DH's each Saturday and Sunday  for conference play  and have 1 or 2 games (usually Tuesday or Wednesday) during the week.
The worse part now is waiting until 3/11. Practice starts 1/24.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 07, 2012, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: BBFan62 on January 07, 2012, 01:14:19 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on January 07, 2012, 11:25:53 AM
2012 Baseball in 14 days  Cal Tech on January 21st

Link to Cal Tech Baseball (http://www.gocaltech.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule)  8-) ;D :D :)

CDD3
Lucky Guys! We don't start until 3/11. After looking at the Cal Tech schedule I also understand why so many guys out west get 12 - 13 starts. There is plenty of days between many of the games, so the "top guns" can get a few more starts.
For example, looking at our schedule, we play our first 8 games  from 3/11 - 3/17, so a guy would most likely get 2 starts, assuming 3 days between starts. CAL Tech starts could get4 starts in the first 8 games. Our top starters might get 10 starts. We play DH's each Saturday and Sunday  for conference play  and have 1 or 2 games (usually Tuesday or Wednesday) during the week.
The worse part now is waiting until 3/11. Practice starts 1/24.


SCIAC 2012 Baseball Schedule (http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on January 07, 2012, 02:32:25 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on January 07, 2012, 11:25:53 AM
2012 Baseball in 14 days  Cal Tech on January 21st

Link to Cal Tech Baseball (http://www.gocaltech.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule)  8-) ;D :D :)
CalTech has a roster of 13.  Five can pitch.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CA_dreamin on January 08, 2012, 08:36:31 AM
So the southern and western best pitchers get more starts and innings so are more ready for playoffs, and the northern teams have to go deeper into their pitching staffs to get through the season.  In the west, you can get away with only five pitchers having over 20 innings.  Not true in the north.

I think that gives an edge to the northern teams come playoff time.  You cannot get through the playoffs with only five experienced pitchers.

Why does the West start so early - it gives too big a break between season and post season, too?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 08, 2012, 01:18:09 PM
Quote from: CA_dreamin on January 08, 2012, 08:36:31 AM
So the southern and western best pitchers get more starts and innings so are more ready for playoffs, and the northern teams have to go deeper into their pitching staffs to get through the season.  In the west, you can get away with only five pitchers having over 20 innings.  Not true in the north.

I think that gives an edge to the northern teams come playoff time.  You cannot get through the playoffs with only five experienced pitchers.

Why does the West start so early - it gives too big a break between season and post season, too?
Only 5 teams from the West Region have won the National Championship since 1976. Chapman did not have the #1 pitchers in the Championship Round in 2011 and 2009 due to injuries but finished 2nd and 3rd.

http://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/all-time
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on January 08, 2012, 10:15:48 PM
In some ways it is a problem for the Southern schools to get started earlier and end way too early. I know the Trinity coach has said that it has been a problem for them. They end in April and have to hang around for 3 weeks waiting for the tournament....all the while losing their competitive edge. You can only scrimmage so many games and after a while you are not in full competitive mode. Not to make excuses but the West can be such a dog fight that sometimes better teams get left out because it gets so jammed up. It is not always the case that the best teams are in Wisconsin, that is just the way the system is set up.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 08, 2012, 11:55:17 PM
In 2008 - 2 West Region teams ended up in Wisconsin. Chapman won the West Regional and Linfield won the Central Regional. Only can happen if they ship teams from the West Region to another Regional. Doubt you will see that again in the near future...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: El Hombre on January 09, 2012, 08:04:06 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on January 08, 2012, 10:15:48 PM
. . . . Not to make excuses but the West can be such a dog fight that sometimes better teams get left out because it gets so jammed up. It is not always the case that the best teams are in Wisconsin, that is just the way the system is set up.

108 Stitches -
You raise an excellent point!  Here are some facts that back that up:  In 2010, the West Region had 6 teams competing.  All 6 were ranked in the top 15 nationally!   In 2011, the West Region had another bracket of 6 teams.  5 of the 6 teams were ranked in the top 20 nationally!  It makes for a great West Region, but unfortunately, only one of these nationally-ranked teams have a chance to move on.  If the tournament was set up like the NCAA basketball tournament (and each regional site had a top seed), you would likely see more West Region teams in Appleton. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 09, 2012, 10:05:02 PM
Quote from: El Hombre on January 09, 2012, 08:04:06 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on January 08, 2012, 10:15:48 PM
. . . . Not to make excuses but the West can be such a dog fight that sometimes better teams get left out because it gets so jammed up. It is not always the case that the best teams are in Wisconsin, that is just the way the system is set up.

108 Stitches -
You raise an excellent point!  Here are some facts that back that up:  In 2010, the West Region had 6 teams competing.  All 6 were ranked in the top 15 nationally!   In 2011, the West Region had another bracket of 6 teams.  5 of the 6 teams were ranked in the top 20 nationally!  It makes for a great West Region, but unfortunately, only one of these nationally-ranked teams have a chance to move on.  If the tournament was set up like the NCAA basketball tournament (and each regional site had a top seed), you would likely see more West Region teams in Appleton. 
I really don't believe the NCAA will allow teams in the West Region to compete in other Regionals like they did in 2008 again...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CA_dreamin on January 09, 2012, 10:43:39 PM
And it looks like the West keeps getting stronger.  It's too bad for some good teams.  But at least they get to play good competition all season.

Speaking of competition, is it too early on standings predictions?  Here are mine before knowing anything about the incoming freshman:

SCIAC Standings:
(Chapman) Other teams should be glad they aren't yet eligible to win the league.
Cal Lu:  New bats make pitching more important. They have quality and depth. Can they score enough runs?
Redlands:  They can score enough runs. Can they put a whole season together.
Pomona-Pitzer: Not quite enough hitting, or pitching.
CMS: Needs more offense
LaVerne:  Lost too much talent.  Rebuilding year.
Oxy:  Someday they will get enough. Always some great players, but....
Whittier:  Competes, but such a tough league.
Cal Tech:  Leads league in nobel prizes.  They have fun.  D3 baseball is not a business
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 11, 2012, 01:09:19 PM
La Verne in 2012 will play all its games on the Road. They lost their on campus field.

News Link (http://www.leopardathletics.com/sports/departmentnews2010-11/5-19-11_facilities)

Looking for a new field (http://laverne.edu/laverne-magazine/2011/09/paving-a-field-of-dreams/)

2012 La Verne Schedule
Link to 2012 Schedule (http://www.leopardathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 11, 2012, 02:15:32 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on January 11, 2012, 01:09:19 PM
La Verne in 2012 will play all its games on the Road. They lost their on campus field.

News Link (http://www.leopardathletics.com/sports/departmentnews2010-11/5-19-11_facilities)

Looking for a new field (http://laverne.edu/laverne-magazine/2011/09/paving-a-field-of-dreams/)

2012 La Verne Schedule
Link to 2012 Schedule (http://www.leopardathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule)

LaVerne's Ben Hines's Field is the site of my ONLY ejection as a college coach(and I fully deserved it). Sad to see it go... feel like a part of me goes with it.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 11, 2012, 04:49:07 PM
UPCOMING GAMES
Weather looks good for baseball during the day so far. Lows in the mid-30's at night but high some days in the mid 70's
BUT Rain forecasted in 8 days from now.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jan. 21
UC Santa Cruz Club   @Caltech   12:00 PM   
UC Santa Cruz Club   @Caltech   3:00 PM   
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Jan. 27 
Westmont   @Pomona-Pitzer   2:00 PM   
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Jan. 28 
Alumni  @Whittier   10:00 AM   
San Diego Christian   @Cal Lutheran   11:00 AM   
Alumni  @Occidental   12:00 PM   
Pacifica @Caltech   12:00 PM   
Alumni  @La Verne   12:00 PM @ Upland Memorial Field   
Alumni  @ Chapman   1:00 PM  @Hart Park
Alumni  @Pomona-Pitzer   1:00 PM   
Alumni   @Whittier   2:00 PM   
San Diego Christian @Cal Lutheran   2:00 PM   
Pacifica @Caltech   2:30 PM   
Alumni  @La Verne   2:30 PM @ Upland Memorial Field 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 11, 2012, 10:44:51 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on January 09, 2012, 10:05:02 PM
Quote from: El Hombre on January 09, 2012, 08:04:06 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on January 08, 2012, 10:15:48 PM
. . . . Not to make excuses but the West can be such a dog fight that sometimes better teams get left out because it gets so jammed up. It is not always the case that the best teams are in Wisconsin, that is just the way the system is set up.

108 Stitches -
You raise an excellent point!  Here are some facts that back that up:  In 2010, the West Region had 6 teams competing.  All 6 were ranked in the top 15 nationally!   In 2011, the West Region had another bracket of 6 teams.  5 of the 6 teams were ranked in the top 20 nationally!  It makes for a great West Region, but unfortunately, only one of these nationally-ranked teams have a chance to move on.  If the tournament was set up like the NCAA basketball tournament (and each regional site had a top seed), you would likely see more West Region teams in Appleton. 
I really don't believe the NCAA will allow teams in the West Region to compete in other Regionals like they did in 2008 again...
The reasons that the NCAA won't move West Region teams to other regionals are:

1) There are fewer no Pool B bids to award.

CSU-East Bay -- gone to D-2
Chapman  -- gone to SCIAC
UDallas  -- gone to SCAC.
Menlo -- gone to NAIA.

In 2008, both Chapman and CSU-East Bay were shipped to Abilene with the 4 Pool A bids.  Pool C Linfield would have made a 7th.  Ugh.  Pool B is almost gone.  Teams are finding conferences to join.

2)  The 6 team regional needs 6 teams from this part of the country that are travel orphans.  There are essentially no other travel orphans in D-III.  I am wondering who might be shipped to the West Regional if we do not have 2 Pool C bids.

3)  Only 4 Pool A bids in the region.

ASC
NWC
SCAC, at least for a couple more years
SCIAC
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 11, 2012, 11:41:00 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 11, 2012, 10:44:51 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on January 09, 2012, 10:05:02 PM
Quote from: El Hombre on January 09, 2012, 08:04:06 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on January 08, 2012, 10:15:48 PM
. . . . Not to make excuses but the West can be such a dog fight that sometimes better teams get left out because it gets so jammed up. It is not always the case that the best teams are in Wisconsin, that is just the way the system is set up.

108 Stitches -
You raise an excellent point!  Here are some facts that back that up:  In 2010, the West Region had 6 teams competing.  All 6 were ranked in the top 15 nationally!   In 2011, the West Region had another bracket of 6 teams.  5 of the 6 teams were ranked in the top 20 nationally!  It makes for a great West Region, but unfortunately, only one of these nationally-ranked teams have a chance to move on.  If the tournament was set up like the NCAA basketball tournament (and each regional site had a top seed), you would likely see more West Region teams in Appleton. 
I really don't believe the NCAA will allow teams in the West Region to compete in other Regionals like they did in 2008 again...
The reasons that the NCAA won't move West Region teams to other regionals are:

1) There are fewer no Pool B bids to award.

CSU-East Bay -- gone to D-2
Chapman  -- gone to SCIAC
UDallas  -- gone to SCAC.
Menlo -- gone to NAIA.

In 2008, both Chapman and CSU-East Bay were shipped to Abilene with the 4 Pool A bids.  Pool C Linfield would have made a 7th.  Ugh.  Pool B is almost gone.  Teams are finding conferences to join.

2)  The 6 team regional needs 6 teams from this part of the country that are travel orphans.  There are essentially no other travel orphans in D-III.  I am wondering who might be shipped to the West Regional if we do not have 2 Pool C bids.

3)  Only 4 Pool A bids in the region.

ASC
NWC
SCAC, at least for a couple more years
SCIAC
What happens when SCAC disappears from Pool A...

Then only 3 Pool A bids...they may have to ship into the West Region a Pool C team from another region..Maybe then the ASC gets a Pool and and Pool C by then
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: El Hombre on January 11, 2012, 11:53:29 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on January 11, 2012, 11:41:00 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 11, 2012, 10:44:51 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on January 09, 2012, 10:05:02 PM
Quote from: El Hombre on January 09, 2012, 08:04:06 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on January 08, 2012, 10:15:48 PM
. . . . Not to make excuses but the West can be such a dog fight that sometimes better teams get left out because it gets so jammed up. It is not always the case that the best teams are in Wisconsin, that is just the way the system is set up.

108 Stitches -
You raise an excellent point!  Here are some facts that back that up:  In 2010, the West Region had 6 teams competing.  All 6 were ranked in the top 15 nationally!   In 2011, the West Region had another bracket of 6 teams.  5 of the 6 teams were ranked in the top 20 nationally!  It makes for a great West Region, but unfortunately, only one of these nationally-ranked teams have a chance to move on.  If the tournament was set up like the NCAA basketball tournament (and each regional site had a top seed), you would likely see more West Region teams in Appleton. 
I really don't believe the NCAA will allow teams in the West Region to compete in other Regionals like they did in 2008 again...
The reasons that the NCAA won't move West Region teams to other regionals are:

1) There are fewer no Pool B bids to award.

CSU-East Bay -- gone to D-2
Chapman  -- gone to SCIAC
UDallas  -- gone to SCAC.
Menlo -- gone to NAIA.

In 2008, both Chapman and CSU-East Bay were shipped to Abilene with the 4 Pool A bids.  Pool C Linfield would have made a 7th.  Ugh.  Pool B is almost gone.  Teams are finding conferences to join.

2)  The 6 team regional needs 6 teams from this part of the country that are travel orphans.  There are essentially no other travel orphans in D-III.  I am wondering who might be shipped to the West Regional if we do not have 2 Pool C bids.

3)  Only 4 Pool A bids in the region.

ASC
NWC
SCAC, at least for a couple more years
SCIAC
What happens when SCAC disappears from Pool A...

Then only 3 Pool A bids...they may have to ship into the West Region a Pool C team from another region..Maybe then the ASC gets a Pool and and Pool C by then

What is the situation with the SCAC (disappearing from Pool A)? 

Also, do you know the status of Birmingham Southern?  I believe they are in the SCAC, but what Region - West or South?  Are they eligible for the post season this year?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on January 12, 2012, 11:22:50 AM
Birmingham is eligible this year and is the highest ranked team from the SCAC and stands a pretty good chance of making the tournament based on their returning players.

The SCAC has already added Centenary, so they only need to add one more team to retain the conference and this appears likely to happen. U of Dallas is not eligible this year, but is a strong program. TU is in a transition year, but they have three freshmen that are impact players and their returnees looked stronger than expected so by tournament time they might give BS a run for their money. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 12, 2012, 12:51:17 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on January 12, 2012, 11:22:50 AM
Birmingham is eligible this year and is the highest ranked team from the SCAC and stands a pretty good chance of making the tournament based on their returning players.

The SCAC has already added Centenary, so they only need to add one more team to retain the conference and this appears likely to happen. U of Dallas is not eligible this year, but is a strong program. TU is in a transition year, but they have three freshmen that are impact players and their returnees looked stronger than expected so by tournament time they might give BS a run for their money. 
SCAC is a split region conference. Many teams are in the South Region and would not be in a West Regional and would not face a SCIAC Pool A or Pool C team.

SOUTH REGION
http://www.d3baseball.com/teams/region/south

WEST REGION
http://d3baseball.com/teams/region/west
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on January 12, 2012, 02:23:15 PM
This is not necessarily true. They have a conference tournament where the two sides are seeded and the conference winner and possibly the second place team gets a bid. I believe they have play in the West. Would be nice to get them someplace else, but I don't think that is going to happen.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 12, 2012, 02:26:09 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on January 12, 2012, 02:23:15 PM
This is not necessarily true. They have a conference tournament where the two sides are seeded and the conference winner and possibly the second place team gets a bid. I believe they have play in the West. Would be nice to get them someplace else, but I don't think that is going to happen.

Once the teams are selected for the NCAA regionals, the NCAA is free to place a team in any region it chooses (mostly factored by $$$ involved in moving a team elsewhere). Teams have been in and out of the Central region for years. Webster was sent to the South last year and Mississippi College HOSTED the Central region a few years ago...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 12, 2012, 04:47:38 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 12, 2012, 02:26:09 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on January 12, 2012, 02:23:15 PM
This is not necessarily true. They have a conference tournament where the two sides are seeded and the conference winner and possibly the second place team gets a bid. I believe they have play in the West. Would be nice to get them someplace else, but I don’t think that is going to happen.

Once the teams are selected for the NCAA regionals, the NCAA is free to place a team in any region it chooses (mostly factored by $$$ involved in moving a team elsewhere). Teams have been in and out of the Central region for years. Webster was sent to the South last year and Mississippi College HOSTED the Central region a few years ago...
I dont recall and have not seen a team from another region placed into the West Region. It could change but It has not happen anytime recently.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on January 12, 2012, 05:12:50 PM
Crash, I have not gone back through and looked at all of the previous tournaments, and I admit I am unknowledgeable in this area since I am new to DIII baseball, but what I have been told by others is that there are MORE tournament capable teams in the West than there are spots. The problem is not moving teams in, but getting Western teams out.

Ideally I think it would be great if they organized it like they do the D1, at least in seeding and giving regionals to the high seeds, but I don't think that is going to happen, so we will continue to see better teams home than those that are in Wisconsin.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 12, 2012, 06:07:50 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on January 12, 2012, 05:12:50 PM
Crash, I have not gone back through and looked at all of the previous tournaments, and I admit I am unknowledgeable in this area since I am new to DIII baseball, but what I have been told by others is that there are MORE tournament capable teams in the West than there are spots. The problem is not moving teams in, but getting Western teams out.

Ideally I think it would be great if they organized it like they do the D1, at least in seeding and giving regionals to the high seeds, but I don't think that is going to happen, so we will continue to see better teams home than those that are in Wisconsin.

Due to cost D3 baseball will never follow the DI model for playoffs. D3 now picks regional sites before the season starts regardless if the team/site make the playoffs. Also you could have teams ranked in all in the top 10 all in the same regional.

It would be nice but DI gets the money and travel and D3 does not. So dont expect the playoffs to follow the DI Model. DIII can not even get 64 teams over 8 regions or Regionals and Super Regionals like DI baseball. It because the money from the March Madness DI basketball pays for the D3 sport playoffs and the NCAA tries to cut costs at the D3 level as much as possible.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 15, 2012, 02:58:53 PM
Top Returning Players to SCIAC in 2012 All Conference in 2011

2011 Stats (http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2010-11/stats/lgplyrs.htm)
Kyle Hart,  Pitcher - Redlands
Cameron Lowe, Infielder - Redlands
Chase Tucker,  Infielder - Redlands
Jason Henning, Infielder – Redlands
Nick Boggan,  Infielder – Cal Lutheran
Trevor Koons, Infielder – Cal Lutheran
Byron Minnich, Pitcher – Cal Lutheran
John LaMoure, Pitcher – Cal Lutheran
Iggy Wagner, Outfielder – Cal Lutheran
Jason Moralez, Catcher - LaVerne
Jacob Ludvik,  Outfielder - LaVerne
Nathan Rollon, Pitcher - LaVerne
Andrew Vallejo, Outfielder - Whittier
Jason Rehhaut, Outfielder – Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
David Ulrich, Pitcher – Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
Brett Watanabe,Infielder – Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
Logan Allen, Infielder - Occidental
Erik Munzer, Outfielder – Pomona-Pitzer
Timothy Novom, Outfielder – Pomona Pitzer

Chapman
2011 Stats (http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2010-11/files/teamcume.htm)
Infield - Mark Saatzer, Tyler Surnbrock, Troy Newman
Pitchers – Brian Rauh, Christian Maietta,
Outfield – Charlie Piro, James Parr, Adam Velez
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 17, 2012, 05:47:54 PM
3 players in SCIAC are 2012 Preseason All Americans

RHP Brian Rauh, Chapman
3B Nick Boggan, Cal Lutheran 
SS Chase Tucker, Redlands
http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-preseason-allamericans-2012
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 19, 2012, 10:43:23 PM
Panthers' ace earns Preseason All-America honors
Chapman news link (http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20120119nh5044)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 20, 2012, 04:26:55 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on January 17, 2012, 05:47:54 PM
3 players in SCIAC are 2012 Preseason All Americans

RHP Brian Rauh, Chapman
3B Nick Boggan, Cal Lutheran 
SS Chase Tucker, Redlands
http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-preseason-allamericans-2012

I think you forgot one.

RHP- Byron Minich, Cal Lutheran
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 20, 2012, 04:45:04 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on January 20, 2012, 04:26:55 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on January 17, 2012, 05:47:54 PM
3 4 players in SCIAC are 2012 Preseason All Americans

RHP Brian Rauh, Chapman
3B Nick Boggan, Cal Lutheran 
SS Chase Tucker, Redlands
RHP- Byron Minich, Cal Lutheran
http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-preseason-allamericans-2012

I think you forgot one.

RHP- Byron Minich, Cal Lutheran
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 24, 2012, 09:57:16 AM
Pomona Pitzer opens up D3 2012 baseball seaons vs Westmont on January 27th

2012 Schedule (http://www.pe.pomona.edu/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 26, 2012, 02:35:40 AM
Cal Lutheran Baseball News
Link to Cal Lu Baseball News (http://www.clusports.com/baseball/news/8264/)

Pomona-Pitzer Baseball News
Link to Pomona-Pitzer Baseball News (http://www.pe.pomona.edu/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/201201252dhk48)

Redlands Baseball News
Link to Redlands Baseball News (http://www.goredlands.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20120124c1uc46)

Chapman Baseball News
Link to Chapman Baseball news (http://chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/201201251fbwk7)

Cal Tech Baseball News
http://gocaltech.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/2012BBOutlook

Whittier College Baseball News

http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20120124i1z42h

Occidental College Baseball News
http://oxyathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20111231j80nzg
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 26, 2012, 01:38:06 PM
Since the season starts tomorrow I will throw out my thoughts on how the SCIAC ends up this year.  I won't include Chapman since they can't play for the title this year but if they could, they would be my clear #1 choice.  The SCIAC will stay that way until someone beats them.

1. Redlands- Huge loss of their #1 arm but they have been solid for a few years now.  Tucker leads the "o"
2. Cal Lu- Two good arms in the rotation and solid returners in Bogan, Koons and Wagner.
3. Pomona- HUGE loss of Colvin and Fredrick but still some goo dtalent left.
4. La Verne- Tough to play the entire season while driving to every game after losing your top 2 arms.
5. Claremont- Lost Sunderland and as always, play well below their potential.
6. Oxy- New Year, New coach, same results.  There is a ton of talk on their web site about how much they have turned it around, but they have not been above .500 in how many years?? 
7. Whittier- Eh, another bad year for the Poets.
8. Cal Tech- Maybe, just maybe.........nope.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 27, 2012, 08:43:43 AM
The 2012 D3 Baseball Season Begins today !!

The Pomona-Pitzer Baseball team opens its 2012 campaign with a home game against Westmont @ at 2 p.m Friday January 27, 2012. Weather 80 degrees and Sunny   8-):D ;D :)

Live Stats link to follow the game
http://livestats.prestosports.com/pomona/

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 27, 2012, 10:33:54 PM
Friday 1/27/2012
Pomona-Pitzer 7  Westmont 7 FINAL
http://www.pe.pomona.edu/sports/bsb/2011-12/boxscores/20120127_ls6q.xml
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 28, 2012, 08:30:40 AM
Saturday 1/28/2012
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule (http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule)
Alumni@Whittier                     10:00 AM   
San Diego Christian@Cal Lu    11:00 AM   
Alumni@Occidental                 12:00 PM   
Pacifica@Caltech                     12:00 PM   
Alumni@La Verne                    12:00 PM   @ Upland Memorial Field   
Alumni@Chapman                     1:00 PM   @ Hart Park
Alumni@Pomona-Pitzer             1:00 PM   
Alumni@Whittier                       2:00 PM   
San Diego Christian@Cal Lu      2:00 PM   
Pacifica@Caltech                       2:30 PM   
Alumni@La Verne                      2:30 PM   @ Upland Memorial Field
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 01, 2012, 03:00:28 AM
Panther Baseball News
http://www.thepantheronline.com/sports/expectations-high-for-baseball-1.2756306
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 01, 2012, 12:09:05 PM
Thanks Crash, nice piece. Already booked my tickets to the Trinity series, should be a good one.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 01, 2012, 12:59:09 PM
SCIAC GAMES TODAY
Feb. 1    Claremont-Mudd-Scripps       Azusa Pacific       5:00 PM
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 02, 2012, 04:03:11 PM
Chapman 2012 Baseball Season Preview

http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/201202024k1lda (http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/201202024k1lda)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 03, 2012, 01:05:52 PM
Oddly, I find myself eager to see how Oxy plays this weekend. They are 2-0 against weak competition, but they piled up 30 runs in a DH. They have 3 games with Whitworth this weekend and, though not a great opponent, could give us more insight into Oxy's team this year. If they continue to pile up runs, they could catch some teams off-guard in the SCIAC this year.

I hope they are better than past season's as the SCIAC could quickly become a premier conference in the nation with the addition of Chapman and a stronger Oxy, in addition to Cal Lu, Redlands, Pomona-Pitzer and Laverne.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 03, 2012, 05:59:24 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 03, 2012, 01:05:52 PM
Oddly, I find myself eager to see how Oxy plays this weekend. They are 2-0 against weak competition, but they piled up 30 runs in a DH. They have 3 games with Whitworth this weekend and, though not a great opponent, could give us more insight into Oxy's team this year. If they continue to pile up runs, they could catch some teams off-guard in the SCIAC this year.

I hope they are better than past season's as the SCIAC could quickly become a premier conference in the nation with the addition of Chapman and a stronger Oxy, in addition to Cal Lu, Redlands, Pomona-Pitzer and Laverne.
Chapman and La Verne have National Championships in DIII. La Verne also has a NAIA National Championship. Chapman also has a DII(Small Colleges) National Championship

Cal Lu, and Chapman have finished 2nd in the DIII Championship Series.

Chapman has finished 3rd twice in DIII Championship Series.

Chapman, Cal Lu and La Verne all have won West Regionals.

Chapman, Redlands, Cal Lu, La Verne, and Pomona-Pitzer all have made it to the West Regionals in recent years.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on February 03, 2012, 10:40:11 PM
From Hart Park in Orange Ca tonight:

Whittier:...    04..07..02
Chapman:.....10..16..02

Rauh:
5 innings
4 BB's
2 hits
6 KO's
21 Batters Faced
6 Ground Outs
2 Fly outs


Big Pappa...Being from the west coast, I am surprised that you would not already consider the SCIAC with or without
Chapman a Premier Conference. And with Chapman, definitely a Premier Conference. Where have you been?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 03, 2012, 10:58:21 PM
  Chapman will only make it a better conference. I know how good the SCIAC is but I think the rest of the nation sees it as behind the WIAC, NJAC, OAC etc. I am looking at these conferences as traditionally strong and not just recently.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on February 03, 2012, 11:09:45 PM
Yes, it is true that Chapman will only make the SCIAC a stronger conference. But, it has been a strong conference for quite a few years already. Just take a look at the teams that have come out to the west coast for the past several years and had their hands full. I am not saying that any of the conferences in the midwest and east are not premier, I am only saying that the premier "back east" teams come out here and have their hands full, and several coaches have told me that they come out here to show their teams what they must do to compete on a national level. Going into this year, the SCIAC will be tough, even without Chapman being able to win the auto bid. I think that next year, when the SCIAC goes to a post seaswon tourney, that those games will be of a national tourney level. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 04, 2012, 08:32:46 AM
Chapman 10 Whittier 4  8-)
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20120204gnarcl (http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20120204gnarcl)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 04, 2012, 09:58:27 AM
You must also realize that when the east coast teams play in the west, they are just hitting the field for the first time while the west coast teams are 15-20 games into their schedules already.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 04, 2012, 10:43:59 AM
This is true BigPoppa, and you also have time lag, travel issues. The West and Southern teams also have to deal with being done 2-3 weeks earlier and having to sit around for the Regionals and lose their edge. You also have to deal with the DIII lack of seeding so you get powerhouse Southwest and Western teams who have to fight each other in the West Regional and never get a chance to get to Appleton, even though in some cases they may be a better team than some others that are there. Hey at least baseball season is kicking off and we can talk baseball!!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BBFan62 on February 04, 2012, 11:22:12 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 04, 2012, 09:58:27 AM
You must also realize that when the east coast teams play in the west, they are just hitting the field for the first time while the west coast teams are 15-20 games into their schedules already.

We face this situation when we go to Florida 3/10. We open at the UAA tournament with a double header 3/11 against Wash U and the Case Western, both recognized as strong teams this year. In both cases we will be their 12th games while they will be our first and second games.

We use to have 4 games in Florida before the tournament but now, because the tournament is 8 games and RIT has entered our league starting this year we just have to face it and our guys need to just "get 'er done".
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on February 04, 2012, 11:24:24 AM
That was the situation in the Mideast Regional last year too. Two top ten teams from the same conference in Marietta and Heidelberg and the NCAA keeps them together in the same Regional and moved other teams out. Would have been nice to see if they were the two best teams in the country instead of just the two best in the region.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on February 04, 2012, 05:32:20 PM
In the first of a twin bill at Whittier:

Chapman...7-12-1
Whittier.....6-10-3

WP: McGee
Went 6 innings
7 hits
3 runs
1 BB's
7 KO's

Whittier took the nightcap 12-4.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CA_dreamin on February 04, 2012, 11:30:17 PM
Whittier had the tying run at second in bottom of the ninth in the first game.  Came that close to the opening Saturday DH sweep of Chapman that they did last year.  Whittier has a knack for starting out strong.  Took one from PP the following weekend last year, too.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 05, 2012, 12:03:29 AM
Chapman has a habit of getting beat by Whittier every year but ended up 2nd and 3rd at the NCAA Championship when that happens.

2011 - Chapman lost 2 of 3 to Whitter but gets to game 15 at the NCAA Championship game and finishes 2nd.
2010 - Chapman sweeps 3 from Whittier but loses 2 in West Regional and gets eliminated
2009 - Chapman lost of 2 of 3 to Whittier but gets to game 13 at the NCAA Champion and finishes 3rd. 1 win away from Championship day
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 05, 2012, 12:47:35 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 03, 2012, 01:05:52 PM
Oddly, I find myself eager to see how Oxy plays this weekend. They are 2-0 against weak competition, but they piled up 30 runs in a DH. They have 3 games with Whitworth this weekend and, though not a great opponent, could give us more insight into Oxy's team this year. If they continue to pile up runs, they could catch some teams off-guard in the SCIAC this year.

Did the 1-2 weekend answer that question?  They scored 11 runs over 3 games this weekend against a team that is middle of the NWC at best.  Not too impressive.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 10, 2012, 09:07:37 PM
Great matchup on Saturday. Both could be in the West Regional in May...Chapmans Rauh should be pitching. Last game over 2 dozen scouts were at the Chapman/Whittier as Rauh struck on 6 in 5 innings last time out.

#2 Chapman(3-1) @ #20 Redlands(1-0) 1 PM PT
LIVE STATS LINK
http://livestats.prestosports.com/redlands/ (http://livestats.prestosports.com/redlands/)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wildcat11 on February 11, 2012, 07:54:48 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 05, 2012, 12:47:35 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 03, 2012, 01:05:52 PM
Oddly, I find myself eager to see how Oxy plays this weekend. They are 2-0 against weak competition, but they piled up 30 runs in a DH. They have 3 games with Whitworth this weekend and, though not a great opponent, could give us more insight into Oxy's team this year. If they continue to pile up runs, they could catch some teams off-guard in the SCIAC this year.

Did the 1-2 weekend answer that question?  They scored 11 runs over 3 games this weekend against a team that is middle of the NWC at best.  Not too impressive.

I think Whitworth is going to scrap all season long but I think Jack is right...The Rats should be a middle of the pack squad.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 12, 2012, 11:01:23 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 05, 2012, 12:47:35 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 03, 2012, 01:05:52 PM
Oddly, I find myself eager to see how Oxy plays this weekend. They are 2-0 against weak competition, but they piled up 30 runs in a DH. They have 3 games with Whitworth this weekend and, though not a great opponent, could give us more insight into Oxy's team this year. If they continue to pile up runs, they could catch some teams off-guard in the SCIAC this year.

Did the 1-2 weekend answer that question?  They scored 11 runs over 3 games this weekend against a team that is middle of the NWC at best.  Not too impressive.

And the not very impressive title rolls on.  Oxy split with Austin yesterday and that looks like an absolutley awful loss.  Austin has been crushed so far this year and now Oxy heads into a tough stretch with the SCIAC starting.  It would not surprise me one bit if Oxy lost their next 9 in a row.

Chapman and Redlands played a close one yesterday and Rauh looked to be in good form after his shaky start last week.  I think these 2 are by far the class of the SCIAC with Pomona possibly dropping one to Whittier and Cal Lutheran splitting with Claremont yesterday.  After seeing how the Pomona/Whittier game finishes up I will update my officially unoffical SCIAC rankings.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 12, 2012, 11:49:08 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 12, 2012, 11:01:23 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 05, 2012, 12:47:35 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 03, 2012, 01:05:52 PM
Oddly, I find myself eager to see how Oxy plays this weekend. They are 2-0 against weak competition, but they piled up 30 runs in a DH. They have 3 games with Whitworth this weekend and, though not a great opponent, could give us more insight into Oxy's team this year. If they continue to pile up runs, they could catch some teams off-guard in the SCIAC this year.

Did the 1-2 weekend answer that question?  They scored 11 runs over 3 games this weekend against a team that is middle of the NWC at best.  Not too impressive.

And the not very impressive title rolls on.  Oxy split with Austin yesterday and that looks like an absolutley awful loss.  Austin has been crushed so far this year and now Oxy heads into a tough stretch with the SCIAC starting.  It would not surprise me one bit if Oxy lost their next 9 in a row.

Chapman and Redlands played a close one yesterday and Rauh looked to be in good form after his shaky start last week.  I think these 2 are by far the class of the SCIAC with Pomona possibly dropping one to Whittier and Cal Lutheran splitting with Claremont yesterday.  After seeing how the Pomona/Whittier game finishes up I will update my officially unoffical SCIAC rankings.
Another solid performance by Rauh. 9 Innings 1 earned run, NO WALKS, 6 K's. Rauh ERA for the season is now at 0.64 with 12 k's in 14 innings. Chapman had 3 errors in the Redlands game and gave up 2 unearned runs to make the game close.

Chapman stills needs to prove their #4,5,6,7,8,9 pitchers can keep games close. This will be key for games with George Fox, Linfield, Trinity, Pac Lu series they have and the playoff games. I fully expect Chapman to get stronger as the season goes with their performances peaking towards the end of the season.

In innings Rauh has not pitched Chapman pitchers have given up 28  runs. Team ERA is now at 5.44


Chapman continues to hit well enough to win games with different players stepping up each game to hit well.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 14, 2012, 10:13:40 AM
1. Redlands- would have kicked them out of the SCIAC if they had lost to La Sierra but a big rally in the 9th saved them.
2. Cal Lutheran- dropped one against CMS and will get tested this weekend in Arizona.
3. La Verne- tough to tell after only playing Cal Tech and a Biola (NAIA) team that hasn't been very good.
4. Pomona- scrappy team but as I said before, not what they have been.
4. Claremont- record is bad but they played Cal Lutheran tough.  I think they are better than their record.
5. Whittier- tough to put a 2-4 team ahead of a 5-3 team but Whittier has knocked off Chapman and Pomona.  Could be the spoiler???
6. Oxy- terrible schedule so far, gets much tougher over the next 3 weeks.
7. Cal Tech- no comment.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 14, 2012, 11:11:41 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 14, 2012, 10:13:40 AM
1. Redlands- would have kicked them out of the SCIAC if they had lost to La Sierra but a big rally in the 9th saved them.
2. Cal Lutheran- dropped one against CMS and will get tested this weekend in Arizona.
3. La Verne- tough to tell after only playing Cal Tech and a Biola (NAIA) team that hasn't been very good.
4. Pomona- scrappy team but as I said before, not what they have been.
4. Claremont- record is bad but they played Cal Lutheran tough.  I think they are better than their record.
5. Whittier- tough to put a 2-4 team ahead of a 5-3 team but Whittier has knocked off Chapman and Pomona.  Could be the spoiler???
6. Oxy- terrible schedule so far, gets much tougher over the next 3 weeks.
7. Cal Tech- no comment.
*1 Chapman - 4-1 record so far. Rauh has been solid as expected. Team hitting has been good with different players stepping up each game. Pitcher has been solid for 1,2,3 guys but the rest of the staff has not pitched well. I fully expect that to turnaround in future games. Errors on defense has allowed some runs but has not been the difference in games but must get better when they play the top teams. Chapman historically plays better as the season goes along. In past years Chapman is playing its best baseball at the end of the season. Chapman is playing the toughest schedule in SCIAC and West Region. They must win at least 30 games and wins against the top teams in the West in my opinion to get a Pool C bid this year.

*In SCIAC but not eligible for SCIAC Title and Pool A bid in 2012. Does not play a full SCIAC schedule in 2012
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 14, 2012, 12:55:22 PM
I don't think they need 30 wins with their SoS. They will have of the top SoS in the nation by then end of the season so to ask them to win 30 games would be tough... not that they couldn't do it. Also, is the committe really to leave a 25 win Chapman team home with the SoS and take a 30 win team from a weaker region with a weaker SoS? The NCAA has rewarded teams for strong scheduling in the past.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 14, 2012, 01:13:10 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 14, 2012, 12:55:22 PM
I don't think they need 30 wins with their SoS. They will have of the top SoS in the nation by then end of the season so to ask them to win 30 games would be tough... not that they couldn't do it. Also, is the committe really to leave a 25 win Chapman team home with the SoS and take a 30 win team from a weaker region with a weaker SoS? The NCAA has rewarded teams for strong scheduling in the past.
You are right in your assessment. If they win 30-10 and there in. Anything less and you leave it up to someone else to decide for you. But with Chapman history and SOS 25-15 will get them also as you stated. I am just afraid of in region losses that could be a killer.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 14, 2012, 01:35:01 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 14, 2012, 11:11:41 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 14, 2012, 10:13:40 AM
1. Redlands- would have kicked them out of the SCIAC if they had lost to La Sierra but a big rally in the 9th saved them.
2. Cal Lutheran- dropped one against CMS and will get tested this weekend in Arizona.
3. La Verne- tough to tell after only playing Cal Tech and a Biola (NAIA) team that hasn't been very good.
4. Pomona- scrappy team but as I said before, not what they have been.
4. Claremont- record is bad but they played Cal Lutheran tough.  I think they are better than their record.
5. Whittier- tough to put a 2-4 team ahead of a 5-3 team but Whittier has knocked off Chapman and Pomona.  Could be the spoiler???
6. Oxy- terrible schedule so far, gets much tougher over the next 3 weeks.
7. Cal Tech- no comment.
*1 Chapman - 4-1 record so far. Rauh has been solid as expected. Team hitting has been good with different players stepping up each game. Pitcher has been solid for 1,2,3 guys but the rest of the staff has not pitched well. I fully expect that to turnaround in future games. Errors on defense has allowed some runs but has not been the difference in games but must get better when they play the top teams. Chapman historically plays better as the season goes along. In past years Chapman is playing its best baseball at the end of the season. Chapman is playing the toughest schedule in SCIAC and West Region. They must win at least 30 games and wins against the top teams in the West in my opinion to get a Pool C bid this year.

*In SCIAC but not eligible for SCIAC Title and Pool A bid in 2012. Does not play a full SCIAC schedule in 2012

I mentioned this last time that I wouldn't even bother with them in here but they are a clear #1 in the SCIAC.  I don't think it will happen but I am curious to see if being required to play the conference schedule next year will hurt Chapman at all.  I mean good lord, Chapman playing Cal Tech 3-4 times is going to be plain terrible.  However, on the positive side, it forces a 3-4 game series with La Verne, Pomona, Cal Lu which I think is good for all involved.  It's the 3-4 against Cal Tech, Oxy and Claremont that kind of sucks.  Anyone know if a conference tourney comes into play in 2013?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on February 14, 2012, 08:33:30 PM
CMS over Chapman 3-1. Chapman had bases loaded in the botom of ninth and did not score.
Travis McGee had a no hitter going into the eighth inning for Chapman. CMS put one run across
the plate in the eighth and 2 in the ninth.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 14, 2012, 10:14:09 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 14, 2012, 11:11:41 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 14, 2012, 10:13:40 AM
1. Redlands- would have kicked them out of the SCIAC if they had lost to La Sierra but a big rally in the 9th saved them.
2. Cal Lutheran- dropped one against CMS and will get tested this weekend in Arizona.
3. La Verne- tough to tell after only playing Cal Tech and a Biola (NAIA) team that hasn't been very good.
4. Pomona- scrappy team but as I said before, not what they have been.
4. Claremont- record is bad but they played Cal Lutheran tough.  I think they are better than their record. <------Bingo
5. Whittier- tough to put a 2-4 team ahead of a 5-3 team but Whittier has knocked off Chapman and Pomona.  Could be the spoiler???
6. Oxy- terrible schedule so far, gets much tougher over the next 3 weeks.
7. Cal Tech- no comment.
*1 Chapman - 4-1 record so far. Rauh has been solid as expected. Team hitting has been good with different players stepping up each game. Pitcher has been solid for 1,2,3 guys but the rest of the staff has not pitched well. I fully expect that to turnaround in future games. Errors on defense has allowed some runs but has not been the difference in games but must get better when they play the top teams. Chapman historically plays better as the season goes along. In past years Chapman is playing its best baseball at the end of the season. Chapman is playing the toughest schedule in SCIAC and West Region. They must win at least 30 games and wins against the top teams in the West in my opinion to get a Pool C bid this year.

*In SCIAC but not eligible for SCIAC Title and Pool A bid in 2012. Does not play a full SCIAC schedule in 2012
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 15, 2012, 02:09:54 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 14, 2012, 10:14:09 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 14, 2012, 11:11:41 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 14, 2012, 10:13:40 AM
1. Redlands- would have kicked them out of the SCIAC if they had lost to La Sierra but a big rally in the 9th saved them.
2. Cal Lutheran- dropped one against CMS and will get tested this weekend in Arizona.
3. La Verne- tough to tell after only playing Cal Tech and a Biola (NAIA) team that hasn't been very good.
4. Pomona- scrappy team but as I said before, not what they have been.
4. Claremont- record is bad but they played Cal Lutheran tough.  I think they are better than their record. <------Bingo
5. Whittier- tough to put a 2-4 team ahead of a 5-3 team but Whittier has knocked off Chapman and Pomona.  Could be the spoiler???
6. Oxy- terrible schedule so far, gets much tougher over the next 3 weeks.
7. Cal Tech- no comment.
*1 Chapman - 4-1 record so far. Rauh has been solid as expected. Team hitting has been good with different players stepping up each game. Pitcher has been solid for 1,2,3 guys but the rest of the staff has not pitched well. I fully expect that to turnaround in future games. Errors on defense has allowed some runs but has not been the difference in games but must get better when they play the top teams. Chapman historically plays better as the season goes along. In past years Chapman is playing its best baseball at the end of the season. Chapman is playing the toughest schedule in SCIAC and West Region. They must win at least 30 games and wins against the top teams in the West in my opinion to get a Pool C bid this year.

*In SCIAC but not eligible for SCIAC Title and Pool A bid in 2012. Does not play a full SCIAC schedule in 2012

Late-inning miscues cost No. 2 Chapman in 3-1 loss to Claremont
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20120214aw0dlt (http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20120214aw0dlt)

Chapman pitchers gave up ZERO earned runs in the 3-1 loss to CMS. 1 run was scored after a pair of pass balls and the other 2 runs were scored after costly error. Outstanding pitching outing for both the CMS and Chapman pitchers with the difference being defense.


Chapman must play better defense to win the close games. I fully expect Chapman will get better as the season progresses.


2 losses for Chapman will most likely knock them out of the top 10. This maybe a good thing. In 2009 and 2011 Chapman was out of the top 10 for the majority of the season and see where they ended up those years.  May be a good year not to be eligible for the SCIAC Championship also.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 16, 2012, 06:47:47 PM
SCIAC CONFERENCE

http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2012/standings (http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2012/standings)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 16, 2012, 06:58:45 PM
Uncharacteristically poor fielding by Chapman this season...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 18, 2012, 02:56:09 AM
CMS beats #4Linfield. Last week they beat #2Chapman. Watch out SCIAC.    OXY beats #20Redlands.  It is the Wild West these days
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 18, 2012, 11:18:28 AM
WOW who would have thunk that the bottom of the SCIAC would be Cal Tech, Redlands, & Chapman.... :-[

Congrats to CMS on their start, will be interesting to watch.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wildcat11 on February 19, 2012, 09:11:22 PM
Linfield got over on CLU 3-2 today.  Looking forward to seeing Chapman later this year.  Both the SCIAC and NWC should be fun races.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 19, 2012, 11:01:35 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 14, 2012, 10:13:40 AM
1. Redlands- would have kicked them out of the SCIAC if they had lost to La Sierra but a big rally in the 9th saved them.
2. Cal Lutheran- dropped one against CMS and will get tested this weekend in Arizona.
3. La Verne- tough to tell after only playing Cal Tech and a Biola (NAIA) team that hasn't been very good.
4. Pomona- scrappy team but as I said before, not what they have been.
4. Claremont- record is bad but they played Cal Lutheran tough.  I think they are better than their record.
5. Whittier- tough to put a 2-4 team ahead of a 5-3 team but Whittier has knocked off Chapman and Pomona.  Could be the spoiler???
6. Oxy- terrible schedule so far, gets much tougher over the next 3 weeks.
7. Cal Tech- no comment.

Shows you what I know.  Impressive weekend by Oxy and bad weekend for Redlands.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 20, 2012, 12:47:49 AM
Really?  Lets check back in late April see how this looks.

1) Occidental 8 wins
2) La Verne 7 wins
3) Pomona 6 wins
4) Cal Lu 6 wins
5) Claremont 5 wins
6) Whittier 5 wins
7) Chapman 4 wins
8) Redlands 3 wins
9) Cal Tech  :'( :'( :'(


http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2012/standings (http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2012/standings)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on February 20, 2012, 08:32:57 PM
Monday afternoon results from San Marcos...CSSM 5, CU 2.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 20, 2012, 09:11:06 PM
I took a quick look at the box score and one pitcher gave up all 5 runs in one inning, with two HR's... I would chalk this one up to early season baseball FWIW.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on February 20, 2012, 10:32:46 PM
Hanks pitched the 6th inning and gave up 3 runs. He started the 7th inning and was charged with 2 more runs after Osaki relieved him with no outs. The play by play breaks it down. Click on it at the top of the box score. I don't think that this was the standard CU rotation with this being a non-D3 contest. Just giving everyone some experience on  the mound.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 21, 2012, 01:27:43 AM
Quote from: dahlby on February 20, 2012, 10:32:46 PM
Hanks pitched the 6th inning and gave up 3 runs. He started the 7th inning and was charged with 2 more runs after Osaki relieved him with no outs. The play by play breaks it down. Click on it at the top of the box score. I don't think that this was the standard CU rotation with this being a non-D3 contest. Just giving everyone some experience on  the mound.
CU is looking to see who can throw after 1,2,3 guys who are solid with ERA under 1.27 and under. 3 of the 4 pitchers today gave up ZERO earned runs. All the runs being charged to 1 guy.

With a this being a non D3 game it is time to find some pitching depth. Chapman had another 2 critical errors and needs to play better defense and find some pitching depth after its top 3 guys if it expects to get a Pool C bid.

Timely hitting is still needed with 9 guys being left on baseball with 10 hits but only 2 runs scored.

Still very early in the season for Chapman to turn things around but they don't have long since after another non d3 game with British Colombia they have 3 with George Fox and 3 with Trinity all in region games.

Box Score  :-[ :-[
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/boxscores/20120220_6jpp.xml (http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/boxscores/20120220_6jpp.xml)

Season Stats  :-X
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/files/teamcume.htm (http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/files/teamcume.htm)

Schedule and Scores  :o
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule (http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 23, 2012, 09:04:12 AM
SCIAC WINS LEADERS

Occidental 8
LA Verne 7
Pomona/Cal Lu 6
Claremont/Whittier 5
Chapman 4
Redlands 3
Cal Tech 0  :'(
http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2012/standings (http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2012/standings)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 23, 2012, 03:18:10 PM
If you would have forecasted these numbers a week before the season started you would have been laughed off the board! Gota love baseball!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 24, 2012, 12:56:46 AM
Another loss for Chapman 5-0 to British Colombia but an Exhibition Game so no loss in W-L overall record but still for the season 4-4 if your counting....Next up George Fox in for 3 on Saturday... :-[ .
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 25, 2012, 12:40:21 PM
Big day for SCIAC games
February 25th
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 26, 2012, 06:25:53 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 25, 2012, 12:40:21 PM
Big day for SCIAC games
February 25th
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule (http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule)
Chapman splits with George Fox
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20120225bjiwit (http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20120225bjiwit)


La Verne splits with Oxy
http://www.leopardathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20120225mavztj (http://www.leopardathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20120225mavztj)


Cal Lu takes 2 from Pomona-Pitzer
http://www.clusports.com/baseball/news/8423/ (http://www.clusports.com/baseball/news/8423/)


Redlands splits with Claremont
http://goredlands.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20120226hmea8t (http://goredlands.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20120226hmea8t)


Whittier takes 2 from Cal Tech
http://wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20120225q6066f (http://wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20120225q6066f)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 26, 2012, 07:03:36 PM
Chapman commits 8 errors in loss to George Fox... :-X :-X :-X :-X

http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20120226racrio (http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20120226racrio)


Chapman now 5-5 face Trinity-Texas(12-1) next weekend. Chapman's top 3 starters ERA have been good enough to win games
but defense and scoring runs has been a problem.
Chapman's top 3 pitchers
R
auh 1.17 (2-0) McGee 1.57 (2-0) Levitt 1.80 (0-2) Chapman will need good defense, timely hitting and some pitching from the relief staff if they expect to compete next weekend against Trinity
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 01, 2012, 09:01:13 AM
SCIAC Standings 3-1-2012
http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2012/standings (http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2012/standings)

Whitter and Occidental have better overall records than Redlands & Chapman :o :o :o :o

It must be 2012 and the Mayan calendar influence



By Monday this will look different again...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 02, 2012, 01:42:50 PM
Top five spots int the SCIAC are within a game of each other. Who will be on Top next Monday after the weekend.
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/standings
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on March 06, 2012, 10:14:15 PM
Chapman avenged an earlier season 3-1 loss to CMS this afternoon by a 9-6 score. No stats available at the time of this posting. Game was at CMS.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 06, 2012, 11:26:35 PM
That's a solid win considering they went through all of their top pitching this weekend at Trinity. Will be interesting to look at the book once it comes out.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 06, 2012, 11:57:48 PM
Quote from: dahlby on March 06, 2012, 10:14:15 PM
Chapman avenged an earlier season 3-1 loss to CMS this afternoon by a 9-6 score. No stats available at the time of this posting. Game was at CMS.
Hopefully this is a start to a winning streak for Chapman.
Their in region record is now 6-6 .500. Still a long way to go to dig out of the hole they had created for themselves.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 11, 2012, 01:31:16 PM
Going into Sunday March 11th
http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2012/standings

A surprise Occidental tied with La Verne at the top of the SCIAC with 9-3 conference records. Could this be the year of change with Redlands and Chapman both with losing records in 2012 so far.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 11, 2012, 01:43:25 PM
I am not sure if it is global warming or what, but to see Caltech, Chapman, and Redlands at the bottom of the SCIAC is a bit sureal.

Also Sureal is the guy who just posted that Rowan should be ranked number 1......

By the end of the day today will give me a better idea who should be where in the top 10, but it still is early IMO.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 11, 2012, 01:57:24 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 11, 2012, 01:43:25 PM
I am not sure if it is global warming or what, but to see Caltech, Chapman, and Redlands at the bottom of the SCIAC is a bit sureal.

Also Sureal is the guy who just posted that Rowan should be ranked number 1......

By the end of the day today will give me a better idea who should be where in the top 10, but it still is early IMO.
It could be that 2012 thing with the Mayan Calendar and maybe hell did freeze over with the climate change thing.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on March 11, 2012, 03:27:14 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 11, 2012, 01:31:16 PM
Going into Sunday March 11th
http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2012/standings

A surprise Occidental tied with La Verne at the top of the SCIAC with 9-3 conference records. Could this be the year of change with Redlands and Chapman both with losing records in 2012 so far.
Three of the Oxy and ULV wins have been over Caltech.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on March 11, 2012, 04:52:03 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 11, 2012, 01:43:25 PM
I am not sure if it is global warming or what, but to see Caltech, Chapman, and Redlands at the bottom of the SCIAC is a bit sureal.

Also Sureal is the guy who just posted that Rowan should be ranked number 1......

By the end of the day today will give me a better idea who should be where in the top 10, but it still is early IMO.

You are so full of yourself as to dismiss my opinion on an undefeated team nearly 1/4 of the way through their season and call me a homer while CLEARLY not having any idea where home really is for me, yet you can't spell surreal. Awesome.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 12, 2012, 06:30:12 AM
Same results for Chapman(7-9) last night vs Ithaca losing 3-2  :-[ :-[ :-[ :o :(
- Great pitching. 2 earned runs, 11 Strikeouts
- Same defense 3 errors
- Same hitting/scoring 7 hits 7 LOB, 8 K's and only 2 runs scored.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.-----Albert Einstein
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dp643 on March 12, 2012, 07:44:14 AM
Chapman is about to be on the verge of needing to run the table in order to make the regional.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 12, 2012, 11:17:52 AM
Mayan Calendar, global warming, El Nino, La Nina, whatever you want to call it Chapman is done IMO. I like the team but, but they are in too deep a hole now.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: El Hombre on March 12, 2012, 12:53:57 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 12, 2012, 11:17:52 AM
Mayan Calendar, global warming, El Nino, La Nina, whatever you want to call it Chapman is done IMO. I like the team but, but they are in too deep a hole now.

It is way too early to say Chapman is done.  As you know (or may not know), it is their record within the West Region that determines their chances to receive a Pool C bid.  And this year, they are playing many more games within the West Region than in the past.  In fact, they have 21 West Region games left.  Thus, it is way too early to say they are done!

Given their SOS, winning 13, 14 or 15 of their remaining 21 West Region games should secure a bid.  With their pitching staff, winning that number of games is more likely than not. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 12, 2012, 01:12:15 PM
Quote from: El Hombre on March 12, 2012, 12:53:57 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 12, 2012, 11:17:52 AM
Mayan Calendar, global warming, El Nino, La Nina, whatever you want to call it Chapman is done IMO. I like the team but, but they are in too deep a hole now.

.  As you know (or may not know), it is their record within the West Region that determines their chances to receive a Pool C bid.  And this year, they are playing many more games within the West Region than in the past.  In fact, they have 21 West Region games left.  Thus, it is way too early to say they are done!

Given their SOS, winning 13, 14 or 15 of their remaining 21 West Region games should secure a bid.  With their pitching staff, winning that number of games is more likely than not. 
I agree it is way too early to count Chapman out and a long winning streak against West Region opponents will get them back in the race. They have the talent, players and coaching to turn things around and they have done it in the past

BUT

1) Not getting hits with runners in scoring position will not get wins
2) Defense giving up errors that impacts a win or lost must be stopped.
3) Starting pitching has been outstanding and relief pitching has done a good job recently and must continue.
4) Current In-Region Record is 6-6 .500 There will only be 6 teams in the West Regional if past history holds true.

Pool C bids are given out on a National not Regional basis.

So Chapman is competing with teams in all regions to get a Pool C bid not just teams in the West Region.

There is no guarantee how many Pool C bids the West Region may or may not get.
4 bids will be Pool A for the SCIAC, SCAC, ASC and NWC conference winners.

There are no guarantee that a West Region team will not be moved to another Regional or another region team could be moved to the West Regional

Chapman is not eligible for Pool A or Pool B bids in 2012.

Pool A will be given to the conference winner for the SCIAC which Chapman is not eligible for in 2012.

Pool B bids is for independents and conferences which do not get Pool A AQ bids

All this talk means nothing if Chapman dont start winning against in region opponents.
http://www.thepantheronline.com/sports/baseball-hits-rough-patch-1.2816651#.T15JvPXZVac
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20120312r1nce2
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: infielddad on March 12, 2012, 01:54:39 PM
From my perspective, just as good hitting can be contagious, the opposite can also be true.
Chapman is 15 games into their season and only has 5 starters hitting over .275 and none hitting .300.
When we consider they also only have 4 pitchers who have been effective, the hitting and lack of runs leaves them vulnerable in close games, in the later innings.
Could Chapman turn this around?  Yes.
Even if they did, will it be good enough for a Pool C with the issues already discussed?
That is a very tough question.
But, to me, the tougher question the turnaround.  it would need to involve 2 or 3 offensive players who really catch lightning in a bottle to carry the team, or all 9 offensive players. Neither is easy and certainly not very predictable based on the season so far.
They also need a turn around in the  bullpen after the top 4.
The turnaround needs to be quick and pretty decisive.
Looking at their schedule, I would say they must sweep LaVerne this weekend and do so by showing they can put runs on the board.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 12, 2012, 02:20:12 PM
I was not paying attention to this when my son's team played Chapman, but come to think of it I don't recall thinking "oh boy so and so is coming up we better keep the ball away from him or we could be hurt". Not that one might exist, but I just don't remember thinking it. The top teams always seem to have a guy or two (or 3 or 4) that are really going to hurt you if you make a mistake and I don't recall this on the Chapman team. As infielddad pointed out - this guy (or guys) can get the others in the line up going.

Again it is never over until the fat lady sings, but she is warming up her voice for Chapman. I have a lot of respect for this team, and they can be quite good when they play to their potential, but they have a big hole to dig themselves out of right now and the pieces don't seem to be in place to get them out.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 12, 2012, 02:29:58 PM
LaVerne is an interesting team this year.  They have played 19 games and only used 3 different starting pitchers.  They played 5 games in 4 days in the AZ tournament and only started 3 different guys.  They do not have the best pitching numbers but they are a darn good hitting team.

Oxy is a huge surprise.  They are right in the think of things in the SCIAC and have been lights out at the plate.  We will see if they can keep it going.

Someone mentioned LaVerne and Oxy have already played Cal Tech and Cal lutheran has not.  You assume (bad word to use) that they win all 3 against Cal Tech but they still have LaVerne and Oxy on the schedule.  This might be the tightest race the SCIAC has seen in a while.  It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 12, 2012, 02:55:29 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 12, 2012, 02:29:58 PM
LaVerne is an interesting team this year.  They have played 19 games and only used 3 different starting pitchers.  They played 5 games in 4 days in the AZ tournament and only started 3 different guys.  They do not have the best pitching numbers but they are a darn good hitting team.

Oxy is a huge surprise.  They are right in the think of things in the SCIAC and have been lights out at the plate.  We will see if they can keep it going.

Someone mentioned LaVerne and Oxy have already played Cal Tech and Cal lutheran has not.  You assume (bad word to use) that they win all 3 against Cal Tech but they still have LaVerne and Oxy on the schedule.  This might be the tightest race the SCIAC has seen in a while.  It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
SCIAC race could go down to the last weekend with 4 teams right now within 2 games of each other. Who ever has the best pitching/defense wins the title IMO. The last conference games are being played on April 28th

Right now the best team pitching in SCIAC is Cal Lu. La Verne has the best hitting team. Best fielding team is Occidental.

Cal Lu is near the bottom in hitting, with La Verne near the bottom in Fielding and Pitching.

I give the edge to Cal Lu at this time. Since they are near the top in Fielding percentage and are on the top for Team Pitching

Occidental not far behind leading in Fielding percentage and near the top in hitting and has had better pitching than La Verne

My predictions for the top 3 are:

Cal Lu - Pool A bid
Occidental - Pool C bid
La Verne


I never win in Vegas so dont be take my predictions too seriously

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/stats/lgsumm.htm

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/standings
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 12, 2012, 09:40:46 PM
Ithaca 5 Chapman 0    :-[ :-[ :-[
Chapman pitchers gave up 1 earn run    ::) ::)
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/201203124plzy8
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/boxscores/20120312_8nnc.xml?view=plays
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: infielddad on March 12, 2012, 10:38:13 PM
Crash,
There is one in the play by play for Chapman which I have not seen in many score books...a double to 2B???
From a box score and play by play, this looks like the season in a nutshell. Errors and unearned runs, get in a hole early and not enough hits/runs.
Sometimes, this is  contagious and coaches, players and fans are left wondering what happened.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 13, 2012, 01:21:12 AM
Quote from: infielddad on March 12, 2012, 10:38:13 PM
Crash,
There is one in the play by play for Chapman which I have not seen in many score books...a double to 2B???
From a box score and play by play, this looks like the season in a nutshell. Errors and unearned runs, get in a hole early and not enough hits/runs.
Sometimes, this is  contagious and coaches, players and fans are left wondering what happened.

A double that took a bad hop off the second baseman and rolled into center field.

Score a few runs and play some better defense and this team could be 13-3 but there not. It's baseball. Momentum in the wrong direction. This is basically the same team from 2011 minus  3 seniors from 2011. The #2 RHP pitcher, Catcher and 2nd baseman.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 15, 2012, 11:18:27 AM
RAIN could cancel Saturday/Sunday games
90% Chance Saturday
70% Chance Sunday

Not sure what days these games can be rescheduled to since the schedule is pretty tight in March and April with no real open weekend dates left. Would games get moved to Monday/Tuesday..Could make for some interesting pitching for next week with potentially 5/6 games in a week.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 15, 2012, 11:32:08 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 15, 2012, 11:18:27 AM
RAIN could cancel Saturday/Sunday games
90% Chance Saturday
70% Chance Sunday

Not sure what days these games can be rescheduled to since the schedule is pretty tight in March and April with no real open weekend dates left. Would games get moved to Monday/Tuesday..Could make for some interesting pitching for next week with potentially 5/6 games in a week.

Other parts of the nation always play 5-6 games in a week... sometimes even more.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on March 15, 2012, 12:34:43 PM
I'm kinda just joking here, but in other parts of the country, they just play through the rain.  We were up in Seattle/Tacoma last weekend watching a NWC series, and the weather was absolutely horrendous for baseball.  Low 40's/high 30's, consistent rain and wind.  They all kind of just soldiered through and got the games in.  The infield must have been designed with outstanding drainage, because it somehow resisted collecting too much standing water.  Not ideal - rain, rain, go away.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 15, 2012, 04:07:03 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on March 15, 2012, 12:34:43 PM
I'm kinda just joking here, but in other parts of the country, they just play through the rain.  We were up in Seattle/Tacoma last weekend watching a NWC series, and the weather was absolutely horrendous for baseball.  Low 40's/high 30's, consistent rain and wind.  They all kind of just soldiered through and got the games in.  The infield must have been designed with outstanding drainage, because it somehow resisted collecting too much standing water.  Not ideal - rain, rain, go away.
Yes I remember a game in Oregon in May at the regionals. Constant Rain, wind, cold(Rain went sideways).

This is not baseball for SoCal...Maybe else where...Also SoCal pitching staffs are not 5 starters deep like teams in the midwest or northeast.  Also the infields are not designed to take on alot of rain. Mud and large pools of water would be what fields in SoCal would be like.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 16, 2012, 11:18:40 AM
I went and took a look at the SCAIC standings and this still blows me away.  Even in the wildest dreams no one would have expected this. Will be interesting to watch the next couple of weeks.


                                    SCIAC    All
La Verne                          9-3      13-6
Occidental                        9-3       14-9
Cal Lutheran                     8-4      12-6
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps     7-5      11-9
Pomona-Pitzer                   8-7      9-7-1
Whittier                            5-7      10-10
Redlands                          5-7       8-9
Chapman                          0-0      7-10
Caltech                            0-15     0-18
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 16, 2012, 11:27:11 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 16, 2012, 11:18:40 AM
I went and took a look at the SCAIC standings and this still blows me away.  Even in the wildest dreams no one would have expected this. Will be interesting to watch the next couple of weeks.


                                    SCIAC    All
La Verne                          9-3      13-6
Occidental                        9-3       14-9
Cal Lutheran                     8-4      12-6
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps     7-5      11-9
Pomona-Pitzer                   8-7      9-7-1
Whittier                            5-7      10-10
Redlands                          5-7       8-9
Chapman                          0-0      7-10
Caltech                            0-15     0-18

Chapman is supposed to play La Verne 3 times this weekend BUT it is supposed to rain. These games would be in region but non conference games since Chapman in 2012 can not play for the conference championship.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 16, 2012, 11:59:54 AM
I would imagine that they will be able to get two of them in on Sunday, depending on how the field they are playing on drains.

Chapman reminds me a bit of UCI this year, still a very good team, better than it's record, which will probably break out sometime this season..... but you keep waiting for it to happen, but it doesn't. Like Irvine they are trying to figure out how to get their offense going, and are making too many mistakes to win close games with a lack of offensive firepower. They played three very good games against Trinity, and I kind of expected them to get it going afterward....but they didn't....very perplexing. Any team that takes them lightly will be in trouble IMO. I predict they will get it going sometime this season, but probably too late to make the tournament. I would be very interested to hear what their coach thinks about the team.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 17, 2012, 05:34:49 AM
Team Losses in the SCIAC

La Verne 6
Call Lu 7
Pomoma 8
Occidental 9
Chapman 10
Whittier 10
Redlands 10
Claremont 10
Cal Tech 18
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 17, 2012, 09:45:09 AM
How many of those losses are to DIII programs? And in-region? THAT is what really matters. Many of the SCiAC school play against the NAIA teams and DII programs in the area. Those have no bearing on their overall look at then end of the day.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on March 17, 2012, 11:02:59 AM
It is raining in Orange this morning.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 17, 2012, 11:37:19 AM
Quote from: dahlby on March 17, 2012, 11:02:59 AM
It is raining in Orange this morning.

Teams in the SCIAC should play in the rain. This will prepare them for the weather come West Regional time in Oregon.
So who ever makes the playoffs from the SCIAC wont be surprised that they play games in the heavy rain, cold and strong winds in the regionals.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 17, 2012, 11:41:50 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 17, 2012, 11:37:19 AM
Quote from: dahlby on March 17, 2012, 11:02:59 AM
It is raining in Orange this morning.

Teams in the SCIAC should play in the rain. This will prepare them for the weather come West Regional time in Oregon.
So who ever makes the playoffs from the SCIAC wont be surprised that they play games in the heavy rain, cold and strong winds in the regionals.

It is pouring north of LA. No baseball happening up here! They could not play in this kind of rain even up in Duck country. Lets hope the La Nina holds up for the regionals. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 17, 2012, 12:28:54 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 17, 2012, 11:41:50 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 17, 2012, 11:37:19 AM
Quote from: dahlby on March 17, 2012, 11:02:59 AM
It is raining in Orange this morning.

Teams in the SCIAC should play in the rain. This will prepare them for the weather come West Regional time in Oregon.
So who ever makes the playoffs from the SCIAC wont be surprised that they play games in the heavy rain, cold and strong winds in the regionals.

It is pouring north of LA. No baseball happening up here! They could not play in this kind of rain even up in Duck country. Lets hope the La Nina holds up for the regionals. 
You weren't in Oregon in 2010 watching games in rain like me. Yes they play in heavy rain, cold and heavy winds. Rain goes sideways in Oregon in the wind.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 17, 2012, 12:37:09 PM
True dat. Do their fields drain? I guess they would have to be turf to be playable, as there is no way a natural field could support the water loads. It has stopped up here so I imagine most of the games will be able to be played tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 17, 2012, 02:22:43 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 17, 2012, 12:37:09 PM
True dat. Do their fields drain? I guess they would have to be turf to be playable, as there is no way a natural field could support the water loads. It has stopped up here so I imagine most of the games will be able to be played tomorrow.
Turf...The only dirt on the field is the pitchers mound
http://www.linfield.edu/sports/sports-venues/helser-field.html
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on March 17, 2012, 02:32:32 PM
Chapman -ULV doublehitter postponed until Sunday at 1 PM.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 17, 2012, 05:30:25 PM
Quote from: dahlby on March 17, 2012, 02:32:32 PM
Chapman -ULV doublehitter postponed until Sunday at 1 PM.
All SCIAC teams had their games washed out due to rain except Redland game. A large number of East Coast teams are in SoCal to play SCIAC teams also lost games also.

Mar 17, 2012
Berry at Whittier Cancelled
Eastern Conn. St. 0 Redlands 3
Kean at Pomona-Pitzer Cancelled
Rutgers-Newark at Cal Lutheran Cancelled
La Verne at Chapman Postponed doubleheader 3/18 1 PM PT
Ithaca at Cal Lutheran Cancelled
Eastern Conn. St.  at Whittier Cancelled

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq-kvGpEvrw&feature=player_embedded#!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on March 17, 2012, 05:32:52 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 17, 2012, 09:45:09 AM
How many of those losses are to DIII programs? And in-region? THAT is what really matters. Many of the SCiAC school play against the NAIA teams and DII programs in the area. Those have no bearing on their overall look at then end of the day.

Non-region games matter as well. Just because it's not primary criteria doesn't mean it's not considered or it's considered last. I believe that was in a d3baseball.com interview with an NCAA official of some kind this spring.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on March 17, 2012, 05:33:46 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 15, 2012, 11:32:08 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 15, 2012, 11:18:27 AM
RAIN could cancel Saturday/Sunday games
90% Chance Saturday
70% Chance Sunday

Not sure what days these games can be rescheduled to since the schedule is pretty tight in March and April with no real open weekend dates left. Would games get moved to Monday/Tuesday..Could make for some interesting pitching for next week with potentially 5/6 games in a week.

Other parts of the nation always play 5-6 games in a week... sometimes even more.

They call that baseball season in the WIAC, right? :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 17, 2012, 05:49:22 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 17, 2012, 05:30:25 PM
Quote from: dahlby on March 17, 2012, 02:32:32 PM
Chapman -ULV doublehitter postponed until Sunday at 1 PM.
All SCIAC teams had their games washed out due to rain except Redland game. A large number of East Coast teams are in SoCal to play SCIAC teams also lost games also.

Mar 17, 2012
Berry at Whittier Cancelled
Eastern Conn. St. 0 Redlands 3
Kean at Pomona-Pitzer Cancelled
Rutgers-Newark at Cal Lutheran Cancelled
La Verne at Chapman Postponed doubleheader 3/18 1 PM PT
Ithaca at Cal Lutheran Cancelled
Eastern Conn. St.  at Whittier Cancelled

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq-kvGpEvrw&feature=player_embedded#!
Rain in Oregon is called the West Regionals
Quote from: forheavendial4999 on March 17, 2012, 05:33:46 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 15, 2012, 11:32:08 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 15, 2012, 11:18:27 AM
RAIN could cancel Saturday/Sunday games
90% Chance Saturday
70% Chance Sunday

Not sure what days these games can be rescheduled to since the schedule is pretty tight in March and April with no real open weekend dates left. Would games get moved to Monday/Tuesday..Could make for some interesting pitching for next week with potentially 5/6 games in a week.

Other parts of the nation always play 5-6 games in a week... sometimes even more.

They call that baseball season in the WIAC, right? :)
Rain in the West is called the West Regionals in Oregon
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 19, 2012, 12:30:38 AM
Chapman 6 La Verne 4
Chapman(8-10) got another outstanding from their pitchers. Rauh/Osaki only allowed 2 earned runs. Hitting stepped up with 13 hits, 6 runs, 5 doubles and 1 triple on a very cold, windy day at Hart Park in Orange, CA. Defense had 3 errors leading to 2 unearned runs. Double header on Monday vs La Verne starts at 3 PM.

RECAP http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20120319nhltdk
BOX SCORE http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/boxscores/20120318_usor.xml
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: infielddad on March 20, 2012, 12:05:53 AM
Chapman splits today with Laverne, and ends up taking 2 of 3. Chapman won 10-3 and lost 4-3.  Maybe the bats are waking up... somewhat.
In the 10-3 win, Chapman made 6 errors? Wow.
Last week I thought they needed to sweep to enhance the Pool C.
I still think they are pushing a big boulder up a steep hill.
The boulder might be slightly smaller and the hill slightly less steep.
From simply looking at the box score, this still does not come through as a Regional team.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 20, 2012, 12:57:32 AM
La Verne 4 Chapman 3. Chapman 5th 1 run loss this year.

Chapman now is 9-11 overall and will have a very difficult time to get back into the Pool C bids consideration...

20 games are now left. 18 in region....
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 20, 2012, 12:59:22 AM
Pomona-Pitzer 4 Kean 2
Box Score http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2012/boxscores/20120319_5yb7.xml
Recap http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2012/contrib/20120319ry2nu0
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 20, 2012, 03:12:12 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 20, 2012, 12:59:22 AM
Pomona-Pitzer 4 Kean 2
Box Score http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2012/boxscores/20120319_5yb7.xml
Recap http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2012/contrib/20120319ry2nu0
Kean's Kevin Herget hadn't allowed a run in his first three starts (24 innings) before the P-P game.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 22, 2012, 04:14:06 PM
Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
OVERALL RECORDS
La Verne(14-8)
Occidental(14-9)
Cal Lutheran(13-8)
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps(12-12)
Pomona-Pitzer(12-9-1)
Redlands(11-10)
Whittier(11-11)
Chapman(9-12)  ???
Caltech(0-20)  :'( :'(

CONFERENCE RECORDS
La Verne(9-3)
Occidental(9-3)
Cal Lutheran(8-4)
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps(7-5)
Pomona-Pitzer(8-7)
Redlands(5-7)
Whittier(5-7)
Caltech(0-15)
*Chapman(0-0) *** Chapman is 6-3 vs SCIAC teams in 2012



Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 24, 2012, 08:46:12 AM
Chapman 10 Pomona-Pitzer 7
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/files/cu-pp.htm
Chapman(10-12) improves its record against SCIAC teams to 7-3 and in region record to 9-7

Outstanding performance by Chapman starting pitcher Kevin Osaki who gave up on 1 run in 6 innings.

Chapman offense had a good day with 13 hits/10 runs. Parr 2 hits, HR, 3 runs scored, Surnbrock 4 hits/2 doubles, Piro 2 doubles 4 rbi's, Newman 2 hits 2 rbi's

Chapmans top 4 starters ERA is outstanding
Rauh 1.72 47 IP
Osaki 1.82 19.1 IP
McGee 2.06 43.1 IP
Levitt 2.48 32.2 IP

Chapman's defense continue to be plague by errors. 3 more against Pomona. 48 errors/34 unearned runs in 22 games .945 Fielding Percentage.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cludad on March 25, 2012, 01:27:39 AM
blah,blah,blah, chapman wins gives up 8 but still wins.the clu sweeps .....nice blah blah blah,
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 25, 2012, 07:40:56 AM
Chapman loses 2 to Pomona.  Blah blah blah
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 25, 2012, 05:48:52 PM
He does this much better than I can.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCkQtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D_T6bXYp-R9Q&ei=K5JvT9PXOdLSiALp44ivBQ&usg=AFQjCNFD-2PbaWE3SKP7tkwFhMIKZBrTlA&sig2=__BU-1q-iMwWIR8xbSHgKw
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 31, 2012, 06:52:58 AM
Cal Lu moves into a first place tie in the SCIAC with La Verne
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/standings

March 30 SCIAC SCOREBOARD
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 0  Occidental  7
Redlands 0  Pomona-Pitzer 17
Cal Lutheran 11 Caltech    0   
Pacific Lutheran    0  Chapman 6
Whittier 4  La Verne    0   

*** While Chapman(11-14) has played very poorly this year, Chapman does have wins over #1 Trinity SCAC 1st place conference leader, 2 wins over La Verne currently tied for 1st place in the SCIAC and now NWC 2nd place Pac Lu. Chapman must string several wins together just to get to a .500 record. They are 8th in overall record in the SCIAC.  ??? ???

Chapman's offense came against Pacific Lutheran ace RHP Collin Nilson who hadn't allowed an earned run in 27.1 innings this season. Chapman's Rauh's(4-1) lowered his season ERA to 1.29. Rauh has 4 no decisions this year also 75K's in 63 IP
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/201203312v2fk1
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/teams/chapman?view=lineup
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 31, 2012, 10:17:15 AM
IMHO, Chapman's hope for a Pool C bid will be to have an outstanding record against regionally ranked teams.

The best scenario that I can see for Chapman is to go:

-- acknowledge that they went 1-2 versus Trinity which may be the best team in the West
-- at least 2-1 in the Pac Lu series,
-- 3-1 in the Linfield series, and for Pac Lu and Linfield to be regionally ranked (and plausibly the NWC co-champions)
-- go 2-1 versus LaVerne
-- defeat Cal Lu in their only meeting this year and hope that those 2 SCIAC teams appear in the regional rankings at least once.

Against regionally ranked teams, they would be 9-4 against 5 teams.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: El Hombre on March 31, 2012, 01:19:58 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 31, 2012, 10:17:15 AM
IMHO, Chapman's hope for a Pool C bid will be to have an outstanding record against regionally ranked teams.

The best scenario that I can see for Chapman is to go:

-- acknowledge that they went 1-2 versus Trinity which may be the best team in the West
-- at least 2-1 in the Pac Lu series,
-- 3-1 in the Linfield series, and for Pac Lu and Linfield to be regionally ranked (and plausibly the NWC co-champions)
-- go 2-1 versus LaVerne
-- defeat Cal Lu in their only meeting this year and hope that those 2 SCIAC teams appear in the regional rankings at least once.

Against regionally ranked teams, they would be 9-4 against 5 teams.

Ralph -
When you mention a team's "record against regionally ranked teams", are you referring to the D3Baseball/NCBWA national poll?  Or are you referring the "regional rankings" that appear later in the season? 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 31, 2012, 01:32:58 PM
Quote from: El Hombre on March 31, 2012, 01:19:58 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 31, 2012, 10:17:15 AM
IMHO, Chapman's hope for a Pool C bid will be to have an outstanding record against regionally ranked teams.

The best scenario that I can see for Chapman is to go:

-- acknowledge that they went 1-2 versus Trinity which may be the best team in the West
-- at least 2-1 in the Pac Lu series,
-- 3-1 in the Linfield series, and for Pac Lu and Linfield to be regionally ranked (and plausibly the NWC co-champions)
-- go 2-1 versus LaVerne
-- defeat Cal Lu in their only meeting this year and hope that those 2 SCIAC teams appear in the regional rankings at least once.

Against regionally ranked teams, they would be 9-4 against 5 teams.

Ralph -
When you mention a team's "record against regionally ranked teams", are you referring to the D3Baseball/NCBWA national poll?  Or are you referring the "regional rankings" that appear later in the season?
Thanks...
The regionally ranked teams that will begin to appear from the NCAA about April 25th.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dp643 on April 01, 2012, 10:23:31 AM
I dont see any possible way Chapman gets a Pool C now.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 01, 2012, 11:29:55 AM
They have been done for a while, it is just now a reality....

Nice run though. Time for them to start to focus on next year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 01, 2012, 12:29:14 PM
Panthers killed all hopes of comeback in 2012 with their 8th 1 run loss yesterday. This time relief pitching could not hold the lead. They find a different way to lose. Errors, or relief pitching or lack of timely hitting. The only consistent thing this year has been their top 4 pitchers. ERA's 1.29, 2.28, 2.86, 3.06.

Panthers have only missed the Regional's once since 1997. That was in 2002 the year before the won their National Championship in 2003

Eventually all programs have a down year.. Panthers will lose their #1 RHP, RF, LF, 1B, and their top relief pitcher.  A lot of parts to replace for 2013 if they want to get back to the regional's

Looks like Cal Lu is the driver seat for the SCIAC crown. They are in control of their own destiny. Panthers only play them 1 game in 2012 so they can't play much of a spoiler role.

Its over
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62JPMJaHHaw
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 02, 2012, 03:56:02 PM
Chapman(11-17) continues to find ways to lose close game. Losing 3 1 run games to Pac Lu. Chapman is 2-9 in one-run affairs this season, including an 0-5 mark in extra inning. 12 of Chapman's losses have been by 3 or less runs.  A .950 fielding percentage does not help to win the close games.

http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/teams/chapman?view=lineup
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on April 02, 2012, 05:11:51 PM
The .950 overall fielding % for Chapman is one thing, but the .897 and .802 percentages for the two critical left side of the infield positions kind of stands out.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 02, 2012, 10:23:39 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on April 02, 2012, 05:11:51 PM
The .950 overall fielding % for Chapman is one thing, but the .897 and .802 percentages for the two critical left side of the infield positions kind of stands out.
+1!  Great post. Thanks for digging that one out.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 09, 2012, 09:45:21 AM
La Verne takes 3 from Cal Lu. La Verne is in control of the own destiny for the SCIAC crown and a Pool A bid to the regionals with a 3 game lead.

Chapman's overall record 11-17 is only better than Cal Tech's in the SCIAC. Amazing how far a team could drop in 1 year after playing in the National Championship game returning 7 position players and all the pitching staff but 1.What the *%$# happen?

SCIAC
1) La Verne (17-4 22-10)
2) Cal Lu(14-7 19-11)
3) Pomona-Pitzer (13-8 19-10-1)
http://d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2012/standings
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 09, 2012, 11:37:22 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 09, 2012, 09:45:21 AM
Chapman's overall record 11-17 is only better than Cal Tech's in the SCIAC. Amazing how far a team could drop in 1 year after playing in the National Championship game returning 7 position players and all the pitching staff but 1.What the *%$# happen?

Wow. It's called baseball. When stuff like this happens I think about the Detroit Tigers from a few years ago that had an unbelievable lineup and were being anointed with a World Series berth and they never made the playoffs. Amazing game it is.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 13, 2012, 05:37:01 PM
Weather alters Chapman sports schedule on Friday  :o

ORANGE, Calif. - Friday's Southern California rainstorm has caused the postponement for Chapman University rematch of last year's West Region baseball championship between the Panthers and Linfield College (Ore.).

Chapman and Linfield, which were scheduled to open a four-game series on Friday night at Hart Park, have been postponed. The game will be made up as part of a doubleheader on Sunday beginning at 10 a.m. The Panthers and Wildcats will play a doubleheader on Saturday at 1 p.m. at Hart Park as originally scheduled.
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20120413mp3156
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 17, 2012, 04:46:07 PM
Rauh named SCIAC Athlete of the Week and to D3 Team of the Week
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/201204173sqx9m
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 23, 2012, 07:38:35 AM
What's the tie breaker for SCIAC?

Looks like La Verne or Pomona-Pitzer will win the SCIAC Pool A bid
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/standings

Pomona-Pitzer will close out the regular season next weekend with a Friday home game against Redlands and a Saturday road game at CMS. The Sagehens will have to win both of those games, and hope that La Verne falls to Cal Lutheran and Whittier to pull even in the final regular season standings.

In  2012 SCIAC is one of only 2 conferences which do not have a conference tourney to decide their Pool A bid.
http://d3baseball.com/notables/2012/05/Playoff_Central

In 2013 new process to get Pool A playoff bid.
Quote from: dahlby on April 18, 2012, 11:12:10 PM
From what I understand it will be a four team playoff in the SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 25, 2012, 08:12:44 AM
La Verne can clinch a Pool A bid and the SCIAC conference Championship with a single win. They have 2 games left. 1 with Whitter and 1 with Cal Lu this week. I do not see the SCIAC getting a Pool C bid in 2012. Poor records, and weak SOS for the remaining teams will not help either.

Chapman's first year in the SCIAC has been a disaster. They will miss the playoffs for the 1st time since 2002 and their worse record since 1995. Next year Chapman will play a full SCIAC schedule and will be eligible for the Pool A bid Conference Championship. I have heard the SCIAC will be going to a 4 team conference tourney in 2013 to determine their Pool A AQ Bid.

Good luck to the SCIAC Champion in 2012 at the West Regionals. Hope it does not rain in Oregon like it did in 2010.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 25, 2012, 09:21:09 AM
It rains at MOST of the regionals across the country... you can either worry about it or deal with it.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 25, 2012, 01:15:28 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 25, 2012, 09:21:09 AM
It rains at MOST of the regionals across the country... you can either worry about it or deal with it.
Sideways Hard Rain, 40 degree weather. Blowing wind is not baseball playoff weather when you have venues in the West Region in CA, and Texas to play in....

Concordia, TX, or Cal Lu if lights added are better places than having 3 out of last 4 years in Oregon for West Regionals. Even Chapman hosting would work with its lights
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 25, 2012, 01:27:51 PM
I'd love to see a list of all the teams that applied to host a regional.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 25, 2012, 01:53:49 PM
Are lights a requirement to host?  I read somewhere that Christopher Newport is hosting this year and I understand they do not have lights.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on April 25, 2012, 04:15:22 PM
I would be suprised if many teams would bid on hosting if they were not sure they would be participating. With a very small gate, it would be hard to meet the bid.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on April 25, 2012, 04:15:48 PM
I agree, Chapman has a great field.  The venue however has one major shortcoming.....there is NO SNACK BAR!!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 25, 2012, 04:50:16 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on April 25, 2012, 04:15:48 PM
I agree, Chapman has a great field.  The venue however has one major shortcoming.....there is NO SNACK BAR!!!
Stands and backstop need to be replaced. Field is in great shape. Scoreboard needs to be replaced. Since it is in a City Park, Chapman has no real control on upgrading the facility. Cal Lu has a beautiful feed but lacks lights otherwise it may be a perfect venue with it's covered stands and decent weather.

There is a lot of work by many to host a regional and if your not playing is it really worth the effort. So I bet there are not many teams that apply to host. Oregon had beautiful warm weather in 2009 after 1 day delay of rain.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on April 25, 2012, 07:08:12 PM
I don't know what the problem is with the scorebord. Chapman did try selling concessions, but there was not enough business to justify the effort. Most of the crowd (parents) brings their own goodies for them and the players.

Regarding the facility, the playing field is in great shape.....but outside of that....well, that is a story for another day...
it is city owned.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 25, 2012, 09:57:08 PM
Quote from: dahlby on April 25, 2012, 07:08:12 PM
I don't know what the problem is with the scorebord. Chapman did try selling concessions, but there was not enough business to justify the effort. Most of the crowd (parents) brings their own goodies for them and the players.

Regarding the facility, the playing field is in great shape.....but outside of that....well, that is a story for another day...
it is city owned. Scoreboard is a 1960's era scoreboard with several lights out and it sometimes hard to make out what the numbers are sometimes.
Your right. I been going there for last 6 years. Playing surfaces/mound are one of the best in the West with the support of the Coaching staff and players. City does not give Chapman much support for the field. Orange Lutheran High School shares the facility with Chapman, so the field has either Chapman and Orange Lutheran, afternoon to nights. It is amazing how well it is maintained with 2 teams sharing this city owned field.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 25, 2012, 10:00:21 PM
Who thinks the SCIAC team gets a Pool C bid?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 28, 2012, 02:27:39 AM
The University of La Verne baseball team captured outright claim to the 2012 SCIAC Championship with a 3-0 shutout win over Whittier Friday at Mazmanian Field in Walnut. La Verne wins the Pool A bid to the Regionals

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thesciac.org%2Fimages%2F11-12%2Flavernebaseballchamps.jpg%3Fmax_width%3D450&hash=788d4f9599b8812741f2fa006322db3b98cf7053)

http://www.leopardathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/201204274ajdaz
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/sciac_champs
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 01, 2012, 09:03:26 AM
Chapman 16 Cal Lu 4

Chapman's RHP Brian Rauh record is now 8-1 ERA 1.15 115K for the season with 4 no decisions. Rauh is now 29-1 in 3 seasons for the Panthers. He will get 1 more start in 2012 with Redlands on Friday or Saturday. Chapman's record for the season is 18-19. Chapman plays Redlands 3 games. 1 Friday at Redlands and 2 at Hart Park in Orange on Saturday. Chapman will try to avoid a losing season since 1994.(http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/archives/BB_All-Time_Results.pdf)

Recap: http://www.clusports.com/news/8685/

Box Score: http://www.clusports.com/stats/baseball/2012/cu-clu.htm
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 02, 2012, 09:41:48 AM
Chapman - Redlands starts Friday last games for the 2012 season for both teams. SCIAC season ends.
http://livestats.prestosports.com/redlands/
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 05, 2012, 03:22:38 PM
8th inning pinch hit grand slam for Redlands gives Chapman its 11th 1 run loss in 2012 5-4.  :o :o :o :o
http://www.goredlands.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/201205042mra0k

Chapman and Redlands play a double header today at Hart Park at Orange, CA starting at 3:00 PM to end the very disappointing season for both teams. Chapman must win both games to reach .500 mark for the season. Brian Rauh(29-1 career record) will be pitching his last game for the Panthers
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 05, 2012, 05:45:37 PM
What an incredible career Rauh has had. Congratulations to him and his family, I am sure it will be a bitter sweet day today.

I am quite sure Chapman will be back in the mix next year. Baseball is a humbling sport and sometimes things just don't go your way, if a few of those 1 run losses could have gone the other way it could have been a very different season for them. They are well coached and are sitting in the center of baseball recruiting and like all good programs will be restocked and maybe be a little hungrier next year. The SCIAC just got a lot tougher.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 05, 2012, 07:21:02 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 05, 2012, 05:45:37 PM
What an incredible career Rauh has had. Congratulations to him and his family, I am sure it will be a bitter sweet day today.

Rauh is only a Junior and I don't see him being a very high draft choice.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on May 05, 2012, 08:33:59 PM
Chapman over Redlands 5-4 in first game
No decision for Rauh.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 05, 2012, 09:59:10 PM
one of those D'Oh moments....agree on the draft position.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 06, 2012, 01:28:18 AM
Chapman wins 2 1 run games taking 2 from Redlands today. Chapman and Redlands both finish the season with a W-L overall of 20-20.
http://chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20120506okz0or


Chapman had 15 games decided by 1 run this year. Chapman had a record of 4-11 in games decided by 1 run in 2012.
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Richard Hamstocks on May 10, 2012, 02:31:06 AM
All SCIAC teams announced today:
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/All-SCIAC
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 10, 2012, 08:55:10 AM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on May 10, 2012, 02:31:06 AM
All SCIAC teams announced today:
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/All-SCIAC
A transition year for Chapman which did not play a full conference schedule with no players on this team. Congrats to the great year these players had
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 29, 2012, 03:38:02 PM
SCIAC 2013 Questions

Will SCIAC teams continue to play each other 4 times with the addition of Chapman in a full SCIAC schedule?

Will the SCIAC have a end of year conference tourney? How many teams? What format?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on June 06, 2012, 04:13:36 PM
I must admit I am surprised Rauh was picked as high as he was.  Not knocking the kid at all but he doesn't seem like a pitcher that projects high.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on June 06, 2012, 08:59:00 PM
Jack,

Not trying to be sarcastic, but when was the last time you saw him pitch?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on June 07, 2012, 12:22:06 AM
Quote from: dahlby on June 06, 2012, 08:59:00 PM
Jack,

Not trying to be sarcastic, but when was the last time you saw him pitch?

Very fair question.  I only saw him once in the last 2 seasons other than on video.  Like I said, I am not knocking the kid one bit as his numbers speak volumes.  I wish the kid all the luck in the world in his journey.  Just my humble opinion and not meant to ruffle feathers.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on June 07, 2012, 09:45:10 AM
I saw Rauh, Klimesh and Maxwell this year and all were deserving. I would agree on Rauh and see him projecting as a long reliever and Klimesh as a mid order starter. It would not surprise me if Maxwell moves up quickly in the minors.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on June 07, 2012, 10:21:15 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on June 07, 2012, 09:45:10 AM
I saw Rauh, Klimesh and Maxwell this year and all were deserving. I would agree on Rauh and see him projecting as a long reliever and Klimesh as a mid order starter. It would not surprise me if Maxwell moves up quickly in the minors.

Maxwell fits the Moneyball mold perfectly. A guy that drew 59 walks this spring with minimal strikeouts and some power. After reading Moneyball at least 4 times this spring (I refuse to see the movie), Maxwell is exactly the type of player the A's would take a shot at... reminiscent of Jeremy Brown (catcher from Alabama)who they rolled the dice on in 2002 (most thought he was taken WAY too early) and he found himself in the bigs before retiring in 2008.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on June 07, 2012, 11:19:48 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on June 06, 2012, 04:13:36 PM
I must admit I am surprised Rauh was picked as high as he was.  Not knocking the kid at all but he doesn't seem like a pitcher that projects high.
Rauh has a lot of upside. He is very young for a college JR. and not fully physically matured yet. He is extremely intelligent and fast learner.

I would expect him to get stronger and bigger. He has a hard nosed passion for the game. Bulldog, never gives in type of guy. He is also very mentally tough and nothing seems to rattle him and he is all business and very focused. He has outstanding curve ball, slider, and low 90's/upper 80's fastball. I saw him throw many times over the past 3 years. With more run support he could have gone 12-1 or 13-1 in 2012. Best Chapman pitcher outside of Yacko in the past 6 years. He is not a mid 90's/high 90's kind of fastball guy but gets his strikeouts with his curve ball/sliders...Keeps the ball in the strikezone and hits his spots and locations. Lots of movement on his curveball and slider.

Will need a add a few MPH and velocity on his Fastball to make it to the Show.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on June 07, 2012, 12:53:22 PM
QuoteMaxwell fits the Moneyball mold perfectly. A guy that drew 59 walks this spring with minimal strikeouts and some power. After reading Moneyball at least 4 times this spring (I refuse to see the movie), Maxwell is exactly the type of player the A's would take a shot at... reminiscent of Jeremy Brown (catcher from Alabama)who they rolled the dice on in 2002 (most thought he was taken WAY too early) and he found himself in the bigs before retiring in 2008.

Agree 100% with one exception in that pitchers did not have to pitch to him at BSC as frankly they only had two guys who could really hit so you had to deal with him or the kid who hit behind him. I could see the A's doing with him what the Nationals did with Harper and moving him to a corner OF spot where he could focus on hitting and working him through the organization quickly. He is a real talent with a lot of upside IMO.

Agree with Crash on Rauh, he will gain 2-3 MPH on his FB as he matures, but not sure he will develop the velo to project him as a starter. His mental approach however may well make up for any physical deficiencies, which a lot of people don't realize is so important in the pros. There are a lot of physically talented pitchers who never make it because what goes on between their ears.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 07, 2012, 02:38:05 PM
I watched Bull Durham last weekend.

The Crash Davis character was a wonderful player who knew cerebral baseball.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on June 07, 2012, 03:25:01 PM
Is Rauh going to play right away or complete his senior season?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on June 07, 2012, 03:35:36 PM
Rauh has publicly stated that he will forego his senior year if a mutually beneficial contract can be worked out.
As an outstanding academic student, I am sure that he will get his degree eventually.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on June 07, 2012, 04:22:13 PM
Quote from: dahlby on June 07, 2012, 03:35:36 PM
Rauh has publicly stated that he will forego his senior year if a mutually beneficial contract can be worked out.
As an outstanding academic student, I am sure that he will get his degree eventually.
I am sure MLB scholarship money will be part of the deal to finish his education in the off season. Chapman is an expensive school to attend and the money will pay tution to finish. Other Chapman players drafted in the past have gone this route and have gone back and finished their degree's
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on June 07, 2012, 05:21:40 PM
Thanks guys.  +ks
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: infielddad on June 07, 2012, 09:09:47 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on June 07, 2012, 12:53:22 PM
QuoteMaxwell fits the Moneyball mold perfectly. A guy that drew 59 walks this spring with minimal strikeouts and some power. After reading Moneyball at least 4 times this spring (I refuse to see the movie), Maxwell is exactly the type of player the A's would take a shot at... reminiscent of Jeremy Brown (catcher from Alabama)who they rolled the dice on in 2002 (most thought he was taken WAY too early) and he found himself in the bigs before retiring in 2008.

Agree 100% with one exception in that pitchers did not have to pitch to him at BSC as frankly they only had two guys who could really hit so you had to deal with him or the kid who hit behind him. I could see the A's doing with him what the Nationals did with Harper and moving him to a corner OF spot where he could focus on hitting and working him through the organization quickly. He is a real talent with a lot of upside IMO.

Agree with Crash on Rauh, he will gain 2-3 MPH on his FB as he matures, but not sure he will develop the velo to project him as a starter. His mental approach however may well make up for any physical deficiencies, which a lot of people don't realize is so important in the pros. There are a lot of physically talented pitchers who never make it because what goes on between their ears.

Honestly, I think the teams will be patient with all 3 of these guys.
While different, each has major adjustments to make.
Maxwell is going to be seeing 90mph nearly every inning of every game, with better breaking pitches and change of speed than he has seen in 3 years of college ball.  I would guess he will have equal challenges if the A's keep him behind the plate.  My guess is Maxwell is assigned to the A's short season A team in the Northwest league and he will be challenged every day. He will then spend about 30 days in the Fall Instrux and by November, he will be a tired fella.
I am not sure Rauh needs to add 2-3mph, if he adds a change at 78mph or so, with command in any situation.  Adding the change and 3mph, with his skills and competitve instincts sure won't hurt, though. I have a good friend who has  a son pitching in the Nats' organization at AA. He is improving inning by inning so Rauh might be in a great situation.
Klimesh, to me, is  raw talent with major upside. Of the 3 he might have the most to learn in adjusting to the hitters he is going to see.  On the other hand, of the 3, his upside seems the highest if he continues to improve as he has done every year for the past 4. A few years back, the Reds were pretty inconsistent in developing their pitching talent in Milb. I assume that has changed.  With top coaching, Klimesh could be pitching for a long time.
Hopefully, all 3 are in short season A where they will be challenged but where they can also succeed against the best in this draft.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Richard Hamstocks on June 13, 2012, 02:46:09 AM
Quote from: dahlby on June 07, 2012, 03:35:36 PM
Rauh has publicly stated that he will forego his senior year if a mutually beneficial contract can be worked out.
As an outstanding academic student, I am sure that he will get his degree eventually.
According to the new CBA, Rauh is fortunate to have been selected in the 11th round, as opposed to a round earlier.  He can be offered as much as 100k with no penalty to the team.  10th round picks have been mentioned as guys that teams hope they can sign cheaply, while players that teams value more, though with greater signability issues, were relegated to the 11th round. 
We'll see.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on June 13, 2012, 09:48:54 AM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on June 13, 2012, 02:46:09 AM
Quote from: dahlby on June 07, 2012, 03:35:36 PM
Rauh has publicly stated that he will forego his senior year if a mutually beneficial contract can be worked out.
As an outstanding academic student, I am sure that he will get his degree eventually.
According to the new CBA, Rauh is fortunate to have been selected in the 11th round, as opposed to a round earlier.  He can be offered as much as 100k with no penalty to the team.  10th round picks have been mentioned as guys that teams hope they can sign cheaply, while players that teams value more, though with greater signability issues, were relegated to the 11th round. 
We'll see.
Chapman tuition, room and board could take up over 1/2 that 100K then add agent fee, state and federal taxes and it ends up NOT being alot left over.

http://www.chapman.edu/students/tuition-and-aid/student-business-services/2012-13-tuition.aspx
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Richard Hamstocks on June 25, 2012, 02:25:22 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on June 13, 2012, 09:48:54 AM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on June 13, 2012, 02:46:09 AM
Quote from: dahlby on June 07, 2012, 03:35:36 PM
Rauh has publicly stated that he will forego his senior year if a mutually beneficial contract can be worked out.
As an outstanding academic student, I am sure that he will get his degree eventually.
According to the new CBA, Rauh is fortunate to have been selected in the 11th round, as opposed to a round earlier.  He can be offered as much as 100k with no penalty to the team.  10th round picks have been mentioned as guys that teams hope they can sign cheaply, while players that teams value more, though with greater signability issues, were relegated to the 11th round. 
We'll see.
Chapman tuition, room and board could take up over 1/2 that 100K then add agent fee, state and federal taxes and it ends up NOT being alot left over.

http://www.chapman.edu/students/tuition-and-aid/student-business-services/2012-13-tuition.aspx
He made his professional debut on Saturday.  2IP, 3K, 1BB, no hits. Looks like the money was good enough.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on June 25, 2012, 02:49:29 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on June 25, 2012, 02:25:22 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on June 13, 2012, 09:48:54 AM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on June 13, 2012, 02:46:09 AM
Quote from: dahlby on June 07, 2012, 03:35:36 PM
Rauh has publicly stated that he will forego his senior year if a mutually beneficial contract can be worked out.
As an outstanding academic student, I am sure that he will get his degree eventually.
According to the new CBA, Rauh is fortunate to have been selected in the 11th round, as opposed to a round earlier.  He can be offered as much as 100k with no penalty to the team.  10th round picks have been mentioned as guys that teams hope they can sign cheaply, while players that teams value more, though with greater signability issues, were relegated to the 11th round. 
We'll see.
Chapman tuition, room and board could take up over 1/2 that 100K then add agent fee, state and federal taxes and it ends up NOT being alot left over.

http://www.chapman.edu/students/tuition-and-aid/student-business-services/2012-13-tuition.aspx
He made his professional debut on Saturday.  2IP, 3K, 1BB, no hits. Looks like the money was good enough.
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on June 24, 2012, 08:23:23 PM
Brian Rauh RHP Chapman
Link to MILB Stats (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=621388)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on September 23, 2012, 10:08:56 PM
2013 SCIAC schedule is starting to take shape. Does anyone know HOW the SCIAC playoffs for Pool A bid will work?

http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2013/schedule

I also heard there are changes coming on regarding the Pool C bid process and what games count or not. Rumor has it all D3 games will count and not just in region. Can anyone confirm or expand on what I have heard.


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on September 24, 2012, 08:13:35 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on September 23, 2012, 10:08:56 PM
2013 SCIAC schedule is starting to take shape. Does anyone know HOW the SCIAC playoffs for Pool A bid will work?

http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2013/schedule

I also heard there are changes coming on regarding the Pool C bid process and what games count or not. Rumor has it all D3 games will count and not just in region. Can anyone confirm or expand on what I have heard.
What you heard was correct. All games against D-III competition will count in the primary criteria beginning in the 2013-14 academic year. The catch is that teams must play 70 percent of their competition in-region.

CU's 2012 schedule met that requirement easily.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 25, 2012, 08:26:46 AM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on September 24, 2012, 08:13:35 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on September 23, 2012, 10:08:56 PM
2013 SCIAC schedule is starting to take shape. Does anyone know HOW the SCIAC playoffs for Pool A bid will work?

http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2013/schedule

I also heard there are changes coming on regarding the Pool C bid process and what games count or not. Rumor has it all D3 games will count and not just in region. Can anyone confirm or expand on what I have heard.
What you heard was correct. All games against D-III competition will count in the primary criteria beginning in the 2013-14 academic year. The catch is that teams must play 70 percent of their competition in-region.

CU's 2012 schedule met that requirement easily.
My fear is that we will see the demise of the inter-region Spring Training trips where an east coast team comes to California to play SCIAC foes in mid-season form 20 games into the schedule.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on September 25, 2012, 09:24:20 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 25, 2012, 08:26:46 AM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on September 24, 2012, 08:13:35 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on September 23, 2012, 10:08:56 PM
2013 SCIAC schedule is starting to take shape. Does anyone know HOW the SCIAC playoffs for Pool A bid will work?

http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2013/schedule

I also heard there are changes coming on regarding the Pool C bid process and what games count or not. Rumor has it all D3 games will count and not just in region. Can anyone confirm or expand on what I have heard.
What you heard was correct. All games against D-III competition will count in the primary criteria beginning in the 2013-14 academic year. The catch is that teams must play 70 percent of their competition in-region.

CU's 2012 schedule met that requirement easily.
My fear is that we will see the demise of the inter-region Spring Training trips where an east coast team comes to California to play SCIAC foes in mid-season form 20 games into the schedule.

Yeah, I cannot see why an east coast team that has not played games outside, above 32 degrees, would want to head out west or even South to play teams that are in mid season form if it will hurt their calculations for Pool C bids.

But again it comes down to WIN YOUR CONFERENCE !
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on September 25, 2012, 09:56:03 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on September 25, 2012, 09:24:20 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 25, 2012, 08:26:46 AM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on September 24, 2012, 08:13:35 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on September 23, 2012, 10:08:56 PM
2013 SCIAC schedule is starting to take shape. Does anyone know HOW the SCIAC playoffs for Pool A bid will work?

http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2013/schedule

I also heard there are changes coming on regarding the Pool C bid process and what games count or not. Rumor has it all D3 games will count and not just in region. Can anyone confirm or expand on what I have heard.
What you heard was correct. All games against D-III competition will count in the primary criteria beginning in the 2013-14 academic year. The catch is that teams must play 70 percent of their competition in-region.

CU's 2012 schedule met that requirement easily.
My fear is that we will see the demise of the inter-region Spring Training trips where an east coast team comes to California to play SCIAC foes in mid-season form 20 games into the schedule.

Yeah, I cannot see why an east coast team that has not played games outside, above 32 degrees, would want to head out west or even South to play teams that are in mid season form if it will hurt their calculations for Pool C bids.

But again it comes down to WIN YOUR CONFERENCE !

I agree with the post above.
1) Win your conference or conference tourney for Pool A bids
2) Teams like Kean who have make an annual trip out to CA could stop this with the new rules for Pool C bids.
3) West coast teams could end up playing each other more since less teams will come to play CA teams in the SCIAC with the new rules on all D3 games count as primary criteria for Pool C bids.
4) West Coast teams have struggled filling their West Regional bracket last year with West Region only teams due to the number of teams in the region and the poor records and poor SOS for many teams.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on September 25, 2012, 01:42:34 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on September 25, 2012, 09:56:03 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on September 25, 2012, 09:24:20 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 25, 2012, 08:26:46 AM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on September 24, 2012, 08:13:35 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on September 23, 2012, 10:08:56 PM
2013 SCIAC schedule is starting to take shape. Does anyone know HOW the SCIAC playoffs for Pool A bid will work?

http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2013/schedule

I also heard there are changes coming on regarding the Pool C bid process and what games count or not. Rumor has it all D3 games will count and not just in region. Can anyone confirm or expand on what I have heard.
What you heard was correct. All games against D-III competition will count in the primary criteria beginning in the 2013-14 academic year. The catch is that teams must play 70 percent of their competition in-region.

CU's 2012 schedule met that requirement easily.
My fear is that we will see the demise of the inter-region Spring Training trips where an east coast team comes to California to play SCIAC foes in mid-season form 20 games into the schedule.

Yeah, I cannot see why an east coast team that has not played games outside, above 32 degrees, would want to head out west or even South to play teams that are in mid season form if it will hurt their calculations for Pool C bids.

But again it comes down to WIN YOUR CONFERENCE !

I agree with the post above.
1) Win your conference or conference tourney for Pool A bids
2) Teams like Kean who have make an annual trip out to CA could stop this with the new rules for Pool C bids.
3) West coast teams could end up playing each other more since less teams will come to play CA teams in the SCIAC with the new rules on all D3 games count as primary criteria for Pool C bids.
4) West Coast teams have struggled filling their West Regional bracket last year with West Region only teams due to the number of teams in the region and the poor records and poor SOS for many teams.

West coast teams could come out to see what its like playing in February in the mid-east.  :D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on September 25, 2012, 07:56:08 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 25, 2012, 08:26:46 AM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on September 24, 2012, 08:13:35 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on September 23, 2012, 10:08:56 PM
2013 SCIAC schedule is starting to take shape. Does anyone know HOW the SCIAC playoffs for Pool A bid will work?

http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2013/schedule

I also heard there are changes coming on regarding the Pool C bid process and what games count or not. Rumor has it all D3 games will count and not just in region. Can anyone confirm or expand on what I have heard.
What you heard was correct. All games against D-III competition will count in the primary criteria beginning in the 2013-14 academic year. The catch is that teams must play 70 percent of their competition in-region.

CU's 2012 schedule met that requirement easily.
My fear is that we will see the demise of the inter-region Spring Training trips where an east coast team comes to California to play SCIAC foes in mid-season form 20 games into the schedule.
You may be correct, but it seems to me that teams have been justly rewarded in recent years for playing the best nonconference competition possible. One of the things that stuck out in my conversations was, and I'm paraphrasing here, "What did at-large teams do with the portion of the schedule that it controlled?"

For all, the Around the Nation Q&A's with the selection chairman and NCAA assistant director of championships delve into the – at that time proposed – rule change and some other things pertaining to Pool C. I recommend them. Some sports information director or athletic director should hire that writer.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on September 26, 2012, 03:38:45 PM
Will Chapman rebound in 2012 and get a playoff bld as a Pool A or Pool C.

Chapman lost a number of Key Seniors and starters and lost their ace pitcher to the draft. 2013 is a big question mark of what the 2013 season will be and who will be in the pitcher staff and position players. Has everyone else in the SCIAC caught up to Chapman or has Chapman dropped down a few notches in the West Region,
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on September 26, 2012, 08:09:55 PM
Great programs have a way of rebuilding, so I would expect nothing less from Chapman.

I am looking forward to Trinity coming out for a series on the West Coast this year , so hopefully will be able to meet Crash. The TU team should be even stronger this year from what I am hearing. (Even after losing their number 1 to the draft)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BBFan62 on September 27, 2012, 07:18:00 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on September 26, 2012, 08:09:55 PM
Great programs have a way of rebuilding, so I would expect nothing less from Chapman.

I am looking forward to Trinity coming out for a series on the West Coast this year , so hopefully will be able to meet Crash. The TU team should be even stronger this year from what I am hearing. (Even after losing their number 1 to the draft)
108stitches,
How is Jonathan Hall? When I was at the Chapman/Trinity game last year he hurt his shoulder. Has he recovered? I've liked Hall ever since my son played against him in travel ball and then high school.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on September 27, 2012, 11:07:57 PM
From what I hear he is back and healthy. He was one of the many injuries they had last year and I believe he will be in the middle of the order bat for them. I am not sure if he will DH more to protect him or ? He was one of the better defensive players also.

How is your son doing?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on November 12, 2012, 02:28:59 PM
SCIAC - Who is gone, Who is coming back for 2013?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BBFan62 on November 12, 2012, 03:48:49 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on September 27, 2012, 11:07:57 PM
From what I hear he is back and healthy. He was one of the many injuries they had last year and I believe he will be in the middle of the order bat for them. I am not sure if he will DH more to protect him or ? He was one of the better defensive players also.

How is your son doing?

Ah, the long cold winter is about to descend. I look upon the upcoming season with mixed emotions because my son will be a senior. However, he did fine this past year, thanks.
He was the LL pitcher of the year and then in the summer he played in the NYCBL. In the NYCBL he ended up 4-1 with a 1.85 ERA; the league hit .167 against him. So, all in all, other than the team getting knocked out of the playoffs, he had a very nice year. Hopefully 2013 will be as good or better!
How is David doing?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on December 09, 2012, 12:41:30 PM
2013 SCIAC Baseball Schedule
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule

How does the SCIAC tournament work for the POOL A NCAA BID?

It appears to me that there will be 4 pool play games with top 2 teams meeting the following weekend for best of 3? Am I guessing right?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 09, 2012, 06:16:43 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on December 09, 2012, 12:41:30 PM
2013 SCIAC Baseball Schedule
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule

How does the SCIAC tournament work for the POOL A NCAA BID?

It appears to me that there will be 4 pool play games with top 2 teams meeting the following weekend for best of 3? Am I guessing right?

I am not sure!  Five in one pool and four in the other?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on December 09, 2012, 10:56:14 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 09, 2012, 06:16:43 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on December 09, 2012, 12:41:30 PM
2013 SCIAC Baseball Schedule
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule

How does the SCIAC tournament work for the POOL A NCAA BID?

It appears to me that there will be 4 pool play games with top 2 teams meeting the following weekend for best of 3? Am I guessing right?

I am not sure!  Five in one pool and four in the other?
Maybe only the TOP 5 go into the SCIAC Tournament Pool Play. Top 2 move on to best 2/3 following weekend...All guesses by me. Does anyone out there know what the format will be? This will be the 1st year for this format.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on December 10, 2012, 12:59:55 PM
Crash:

Top 4 teams with  double elimination.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on December 10, 2012, 01:10:28 PM
Well, I looked at the schedule and saw Oxy will be playing at Austin College in early February.  That is not very far away from me, but the weather in February is usually cold.  The Chapman Hardin-Simmons series at HSU is 3 hours away from me.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on December 13, 2012, 01:19:25 AM
2012 SCIAC Team Stats
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/stats/lgsumm.htm

What will 2013 look like?

Potential 2013 Top Hitters in SCIAC

Nick Gentili-Pomona-Pitzer
Trevor Koons-Cal Lutheran 
Alex Scheiwe-Redlands
Erik Munzer-Pomona-Pitzer
Jason Moralez-La Verne
Pedro Aldape-Occidental
Nick Boggan-Cal Lutheran 
Jake Bruml-Pomona-Pitzer
Mark Okuma-Pomona-Pitzer
Tyler Surnbrock-Chapman
Brian Penserini-Cal Tech
Connor Battaglia-Chapman   
Mark Saatzer-Chapman   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on December 17, 2012, 07:01:58 PM
Potential 2013 Top Pitchers in SCIAC

Jake Bruml - Pomona - Pitzer
Anthony Cerafice - La Verne
Chad Hadzinsky - Claremont
Phil Schick - La Verne
Scott Hong - Occidental
Matt Malot - Occidental
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on December 29, 2012, 10:00:48 PM
Corrections may be needed once teams post their 2013 rosters.

SCIAC Top Position Players Returning 

Cal Lutheran

Trevor Koons IF   .395 avg .436 ob% .578 slg%
Nick DeLorenzo IF .336 avg .406 ob% .547 slg%
Nick Boggan IF    .284 avg .395 ob% .500 slg%


Cal Tech
Brian Penserini C .430 avg .486 ob% .624 slg%

Chapman
Connor Battaglia OF .330 avg .386 ob% .447 slg%
Mark Saatzer IF     .327 avg .377 ob% .440 slg%
Tyler Surnbrock OF  .317 avg .373 ob% .493 slg%
Adam Velez OF       .309 avg .364 ob% .370 slg%
Adam Cogan IF       .304 avg .395 ob% .362 slg%
Taber Watson C      .284 avg .355 ob% .413 slg%

Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
Scott Witte IF .333 avg .338 ob% .489 slg%
Michael Erb IF .321 avg .399 ob% .466 slg%

La Verne
Dylan Leong OF     .360 avg .529 ob% .440 slg%
Albert Ramos IF    .337 avg .404 ob% .395 slg%
Jason Moralez C    .323 avg .396 ob% .457 slg%
Michael Stewart DH .301 avg .434 ob% .363 slg%
George Hanna IF    .284 avg .379 ob% .370 slg%

Occidental
Pedro Aldape    IF .390 avg .441 ob% .640 slg%
Logan Allen     IF .325 avg .394 ob% .448 slg%
Kevin Ozaki    UTL .324 avg .440 ob% .405 slg%
Jonathan Brooks IF .303 avg .369 ob% .494 slg%
Scott Hong      OF .291 avg .402 ob% .475 slg%

Pomona-Pitzer
Nick Gentili OF .401 avg .514 ob% .707 slg%
E.J. Lopez   IF .338 avg .425 ob% .407 slg%
Erik Munzer  OF .338 avg .392 ob% .456 slg%
Mike Moyer   OF .336 avg .413 ob% .390 slg%
Jake Bruml   IF .323 avg .412 ob% .535 slg%
Travis Bowers C .286 avg .340 ob% .340 slg%

Redlands
Conner Hancock   OF .360 avg .417 ob% .440 slg%
Alex Scheiwe     OF .355 avg .379 ob% .426 slg%
Marcus Himelhoch OF .347 avg .430 ob% .573 slg%
Sean McMillan     C .310 avg .367 ob% .398 slg%

Whittier
Alex Mitchell OF .344 avg .430 ob% .382 slg%
Austin Straus DH .326 avg .423 ob% .517 slg%
Corey Jensen  IF .316 avg .405 ob% .398 slg%
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 06, 2013, 03:58:14 PM
3 weeks before games begin....
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule

Panthers play their Alumni game on 1/26/2012 2013 @ Hart Park in Orange, CA also  ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 07, 2013, 04:27:53 PM
IF Chapman wants to return to the playoffs in 2013...THEY MUST DO BETTER..

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/stats/lgsumm.htm
7th in SCIAC in Team Batting  :-[
8th in SCIAC in Team Fielding  :-[
1st in SCIAC in Team Pitching  ;D

Also there are lot of question marks on who returns on the pitching staff and what new impact players they bring in for 2013.
The outstanding coaching staff and players have always been able to make adjustments in the past and I expect a much better 2013.

La Verne won the SCIAC in 2012

7th in SCIAC in Pitching  :-[
2nd in SCIAC in Batting   ;D
7th in SCIAC in Fielding   :-[
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 08, 2013, 07:33:42 PM
SCIAC 2013
This will be the first year SCIAC teams have this type of schedule. Please notice the games at the end of the season

April 24 - April 27 ...Teams play 4 SCIAC Games.... Game Opponent & Location Based on SCIAC Standings)

SCIAC Tournament   (May. 3 - May. 5)  Top 4 teams double elimination. Winner gets Pool A playoff bid

Pomona-Pitzer
http://www.pe.pomona.edu/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule

Redlands
http://www.goredlands.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule

Whittier
http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule

Cal Tech
http://www.gocaltech.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule

La Verne
http://www.leopardathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule

Occidental
http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule

Chapman
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule

Claremont
http://www.cmsathletics.org/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule

Cal Lutheran
http://www.clusports.com/baseball/schedule/
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 11, 2013, 02:54:28 AM
Baseball not far away in 2013. SCIAC teams have begun practices and intra squad games. SCIAC is a hitting league. Teams that hit the best will win. with good defense...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on January 11, 2013, 11:06:54 AM
I don't know this for sure Crash, but wasn't Chapman's run based on Pitching dominance?

Of course they were not SCIAC at the time, but I thought they were pitching/defense teams.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 11, 2013, 08:24:39 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on January 08, 2013, 07:33:42 PM
SCIAC 2013
This will be the first year SCIAC teams have this type of schedule. Please notice the games at the end of the season

April 24 - April 27 ...Teams play 4 SCIAC Games.... Game Opponent & Location Based on SCIAC Standings)

SCIAC Tournament   (May. 3 - May. 5)  Top 4 teams double elimination. Winner gets Pool A playoff bid

Pomona-Pitzer
http://www.pe.pomona.edu/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule

Redlands
http://www.goredlands.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule

Whittier
http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule

Cal Tech
http://www.gocaltech.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule

La Verne
http://www.leopardathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule

Occidental
http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule

Chapman
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule

Claremont
http://www.cmsathletics.org/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule

Cal Lutheran
http://www.clusports.com/baseball/schedule/

Here is my take on each schedule...

Pomona- Great opening series against an up-and-comer from the NWC and ending it with a game against Whitworth.  Take away the first SCIAC weekend with CMS and they get Cal Lu and Redlands.  Pretty solid first 10/13 games.  Kudos for bringing Linfield down for 3 as well.

Redlands- Very good opening slate in the AZ tourney then straight into a SCIAC series with La Verne.  Redlands gets a break with Cal Tech but gets after it right away with CLU and Pomona in back-to-back weekends.  Very tough start of the year.

Whittier- Decent trip to AZ but it gets easier over the next few weeks.  The schedule is pretty back-loaded and could mean another long year for Whittier.

La Verne- Similar to Whittier with a decent trip to AZ but straight back to the SCIAC with Redlands and Chapman.  If they can manage the first weeks of the SCIAC they could be on their way to a repeat.  *Anyone know anything about their home field situation?

Oxy- I am sure the schedule is atypo but 6 games in 2 days to open up with???  What makes it worse is they are with Austin College.  Sorry, but Oxy is trying to step up their game but a schedule starting with Austin and La Sierra is terrible.  After likely getting beat by Chapman in 3 games Oxy has CMS and Cal Tech.  Oxy can not afford to slip up at all during the first part of the season.  I am intrigued by this team after what they did last year but the schedule needs major improvement.

Chapman- I LOVE the opening weekend with Trinity and regardless of it being non-conference it is a HUGE weekend for both squads.  I am not a fan of the NAIA games but understand they are fairly close so no huge deal.  SCIAC starts with Oxy, ULV and CLU which makes for a very competitive first part of the schedule.  I also like the trip to TX in the middle of the season.

CMS- not a fan of the NAIA game to open up with but I think it's pretty traditional for CMS to do so.  Whitman is pretty terrible but CMS makes their schedule a lot better with Pacific down for 3 in the middle of the season.  Not too bad at all.

CLU- WOW!  Whitworth, George Fox, Pomona, Chapman, Redlands all in a row is brutal.  This kind of schedule could either be really good for them in the growth it can produce or it could knock them down real fast. 

I am a little confused how the scheduling works with the 4 games at the end of the year but I honestly believe the SCIAC is a 2-bid league this year.  Less out of region games screws the East Coast schools that usually travel out but it helps the SCIAC for sure.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 13, 2013, 11:50:20 AM
Quote from: Colorado on January 13, 2013, 09:53:36 AM

Some insight on the 2013 Panthers.. Click on quote from Colorado link above.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 13, 2013, 12:07:12 PM
Corrections may be needed once teams post their 2013 rosters.

Players Returning  in 2013

Chapman
Connor Battaglia OF .330 avg .386 ob% .447 slg%
Mark Saatzer IF     .327 avg .377 ob% .440 slg%
Tyler Surnbrock OF  .317 avg .373 ob% .493 slg%
Adam Velez OF       .309 avg .364 ob% .370 slg%
Taber Watson C      .284 avg .355 ob% .413 slg%
Justin Hanks RHP

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 13, 2013, 05:13:31 PM
My take on the SCIAC is that it is as strong a conference, top to bottom as there is in the country.  Matching its #! vs #1, #2 vs #2, down to #8 vs #8, I think they hold their own. 

I wonder who Cal Tech might beat in D-3 from the other parts of the country in some of the weaker conferences.  I imagine Cal Tech might approach .500 in some conferences.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 13, 2013, 05:59:56 PM
I do not see any dominant team in 2013. With a SCIAC tournament to end the season at least any of the top 4 teams can win the Pool A bid to the playoffs.

Teams to watch out for....Pomona-Pitzer, La Verne, Cal Lutheran, Redlands, Chapman

Occidental, Whittier, Claremount can beat anyone on a given day...but I dont think will make it to the SCIAC tournament,,,,

Cal Tech....I know several people will give me flack but should really be playing club level baseball with UC Santa Cruz and others...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 17, 2013, 04:05:16 PM
SCIAC BASEBALL JANUARY 26, 2013  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

UC Santa Cruz@CalTech           
Alumni@Occidental       
Alumni@La Verne       
Alumni@Chapman  8-) 8-)   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 18, 2013, 10:54:16 AM
With regards to how the final four SCIAC games will work, it will likely follow the local JC conference's model (Orange Empire Conference) which has the same situation. Team will be matched based on their conference seeding at that point (1 vs 8, 2 vs 7, 1 vs 3, 2 vs 4 etc...) and each game will be pre determined based on the rankings prior to those final four games. The top teams are likely rewarded with a weaker schedule while the lower a team drops, the tougher their four games get. It will not be a four game series but probably four games vs four different opponents with a pre-set schedule of who plays who. While the top teams do face off in those types of schedules, it is generally only once while they would face weaker teams in two or three of those matchups. It may be interesting to see how the SoS of the top seeds is affected if they play the weakest of the schedules.

It is a system that provides great separation among teams that appear to be similar in the standings... all while building a playoff-like atmoshpere. For the second and third seeded teams, it likely is a playoff series for them as it could be a "jump-to-the-top-or-go-home" situation for them. Setting up the pitching in these four game scenarios is always a gamble.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 18, 2013, 03:52:10 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 18, 2013, 10:54:16 AM
With regards to how the final four SCIAC games will work, it will likely follow the local JC conference's model (Orange Empire Conference) which has the same situation. Team will be matched based on their conference seeding at that point (1 vs 8, 2 vs 7, 1 vs 3, 2 vs 4 etc...) and each game will be pre determined based on the rankings prior to those final four games. The top teams are likely rewarded with a weaker schedule while the lower a team drops, the tougher their four games get. It will not be a four game series but probably four games vs four different opponents with a pre-set schedule of who plays who. While the top teams do face off in those types of schedules, it is generally only once while they would face weaker teams in two or three of those matchups. It may be interesting to see how the SoS of the top seeds is affected if they play the weakest of the schedules.

It is a system that provides great separation among teams that appear to be similar in the standings... all while building a playoff-like atmoshpere. For the second and third seeded teams, it likely is a playoff series for them as it could be a "jump-to-the-top-or-go-home" situation for them. Setting up the pitching in these four game scenarios is always a gamble.
Big Poppa you are right the last 4 SCIAC conference games are like you described.

For example the last 4 games for the #1 team in the SCIAC at that point in the season would be
1V9
1v8
1V7
1V6

Then the 2nd place team would be
2v8
2v7
2v6
2v5


After these LAST 4 games of SCIAC conference then a top 4 teams in SCIAC play in a double elimination tournament to deter the SCIAC conference champion that gets the Pool A bid.

Great set up...It is like the playoffs start the last 4 games of SCIAC conference games. This will be an advantage to teams that have the most pitching and can hit and score lots of runs when the pitching gets weaker.

Home fields can really make a difference...Pomona is a hitter friendly field while Chapman is big and pitcher friendly field.

Let the games begin.,..
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 20, 2013, 04:50:20 PM
SCIAC CONFERENCE BASEBALL WEBSITE

Link to SCIAC website (http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/index)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 20, 2013, 06:46:41 PM
SCIAC 2013 Rosters

Pomona-Pitzer (http://www.pe.pomona.edu/sports/bsb/2012-13/roster)

Whittier (http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/roster)

Occidental (http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/roster)

Chapman (http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/roster)

Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (http://www.cmsathletics.org/sports/bsb/2012-13/roster)

Redlands (http://www.goredlands.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/roster)

La Verne (http://www.leopardathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/roster)

Cal Tech (http://gocaltech.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/roster)

Cal Lutheran (http://www.clusports.com/baseball/roster/)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 24, 2013, 04:21:06 PM
2013 Chapman Baseball Preview (http://www.thepantheronline.com/sports/baseball-preview)

2013 Cal Tech Baseball Preview (http://www.gocaltech.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/releases/2013BaseballOutlook)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 25, 2013, 11:34:23 AM
Looks like rain forecast for Saturday in SoCal  :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

Weather Forecast (http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/channel?section=weather/forecast&id=6650542#forecast)

This will wipe out Alumni games scheduled for La Verne, Occidental and Chapman  :'(

SCIAC 2013 Baseball Schedule (http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 25, 2013, 11:06:50 PM
Chapman Baseball News (http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/releases/201301250rojl5)
January 25, 2013
Rain postpones baseball alumni game
ORANGE, Calif. - Rainy weather has forced the postponement of Chapman University's baseball alumni game, scheduled for Saturday at 1 p.m. at Hart Park. The annual exhibition game has been moved to Saturday, Feb. 9 at 1 p.m.

The Panthers open up their 2013 season at Hart Park against Trinity University (Texas) on Thursday, Jan. 31 at 7 p.m., the first of a three-game series.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 28, 2013, 09:51:50 AM
SCIAC Baseball News January 25, 2013
Cal Tech Baseball News (http://http://www.gocaltech.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/releases/raindelays)

CAL TECH Rain Changes Team Schedule

Rain and cooler weather forced schedule change for the Caltech baseball team. Both weekend games canceled.The exhibition doubleheader with the UC Santa Cruz club team has been canceled. The games will not be made up. UPDATED -- The La Sierra, Caltech game scheduled for Noon on Sunday, Jan. 27 has been canceled.

Caltech begins the season on Saturday, Feb. 2 vs. Pacifica. The DH starts at 1 p.m.

LA VERNE
1/26/13 Baseball Alumni vs La Verne Cancelled at Rio Hondo College
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 28, 2013, 10:48:54 AM
The SCIAC has reconfigured how it will crown the conference champion in 2013. After each team has concluded their conference series schedules, the teams will be seeded 1-9 based on their conference record and begin a four game pool-play series set to take place April 24-30.

The top four teams in the SCIAC will advance to the Inaugural SCIAC Post Season Tournament from May 3-5 at the site of the highest seeded team. The tournament winner will earn the SCIAC automatic bid into the NCAA Championships.

The 2013 NCAA Division III Regional Tournaments will be held May 15-19 at 8 sites TBA. The winner of each Regional will play at the 2013 NCAA Division III College World Series that will be held May 24-28 at Time Warner Cable Field at Fox Cities Stadium in Appleton, Wis.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on January 28, 2013, 12:06:35 PM
Chapman series vs Trinity starts Thursday night. Weather looks good! Let the games begin!!!!

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=33.78344939999999&lon=-117.84579559999997&site=all&smap=1&searchresult=Orange%2C%20CA%2092866%2C%20USA (http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=33.78344939999999&lon=-117.84579559999997&site=all&smap=1&searchresult=Orange%2C%20CA%2092866%2C%20USA)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 28, 2013, 05:18:32 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on January 28, 2013, 12:06:35 PM
Chapman series vs Trinity starts Thursday night. Weather looks good! Let the games begin!!!!

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=33.78344939999999&lon=-117.84579559999997&site=all&smap=1&searchresult=Orange%2C%20CA%2092866%2C%20USA (http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=33.78344939999999&lon=-117.84579559999997&site=all&smap=1&searchresult=Orange%2C%20CA%2092866%2C%20USA)
Looks like clear weather. It can get cold at Hart Park in Orange, CA for the thin blood people from SoCal and Texas. Dress warm and many people bring small heaters and blankets.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on January 28, 2013, 06:58:56 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on January 28, 2013, 10:48:54 AM
The SCIAC has reconfigured how it will crown the conference champion in 2013. After each team has concluded their conference series schedules, the teams will be seeded 1-9 based on their conference record and begin a four game pool-play series set to take place April 24-30.

The top four teams in the SCIAC will advance to the Inaugural SCIAC Post Season Tournament from May 3-5 at the site of the highest seeded team. The tournament winner will earn the SCIAC automatic bid into the NCAA Championships.

The 2013 NCAA Division III Regional Tournaments will be held May 15-19 at 8 sites TBA. The winner of each Regional will play at the 2013 NCAA Division III College World Series that will be held May 24-28 at Time Warner Cable Field at Fox Cities Stadium in Appleton, Wis.
The four extra games seem like a nice safeguard for next season's mandate that teams must play 70 percent of all countable competition against in-region teams. Those are four games that may have been against non D-III teams out of geographic necessity.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 28, 2013, 08:16:09 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on January 28, 2013, 06:58:56 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on January 28, 2013, 10:48:54 AM
The SCIAC has reconfigured how it will crown the conference champion in 2013. After each team has concluded their conference series schedules, the teams will be seeded 1-9 based on their conference record and begin a four game pool-play series set to take place April 24-30.

The top four teams in the SCIAC will advance to the Inaugural SCIAC Post Season Tournament from May 3-5 at the site of the highest seeded team. The tournament winner will earn the SCIAC automatic bid into the NCAA Championships.

The 2013 NCAA Division III Regional Tournaments will be held May 15-19 at 8 sites TBA. The winner of each Regional will play at the 2013 NCAA Division III College World Series that will be held May 24-28 at Time Warner Cable Field at Fox Cities Stadium in Appleton, Wis.
The four extra games seem like a nice safeguard for next season's mandate that teams must play 70 percent of all countable competition against in-region teams. Those are four games that may have been against non D-III teams out of geographic necessity.
Yes. 28 games vs SCIAC opponents plus the SCIAC tournament games.   28/40 = 70%

This year Chapman plays 34 West Region games with 3 with Trinity and 3 with Hardin-Simmons.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 29, 2013, 06:22:03 PM
Any predictions on standings before the SCIAC Tournament

1 Pomona-Pitzer
2  ???
3  ???
4  ???
5   :'(
6 Occidental  :(
7 Claremont Mudd Scripps  :(
8 Whittier  :(
9 Cal Tech  :(
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 30, 2013, 10:05:17 AM
Chapman vs Trinity Friday February 1, 2013
Live Stats Link (http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/chapman.portal#)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on January 30, 2013, 11:40:35 AM
Actually first game is Thursday eve, not sure about the webcast.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 30, 2013, 05:33:11 PM

Chapman vs Trinity
Links for Live Stats and Video (http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on January 31, 2013, 01:01:16 AM
Chapman'e season preview and opening day roster can be found at "chapmanathhletics.com".
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 31, 2013, 06:13:38 AM
Quote from: dahlby on January 31, 2013, 01:01:16 AM
Chapman'e season preview and opening day roster can be found at "chapmanathhletics.com".
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/releases/20130131mv3v7m
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 31, 2013, 01:08:44 PM
Several SCIAC players are listed

http://static.psbin.com/3/2/r210lvyy77f9yk/collegiatebaseball13.pdf
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 01, 2013, 08:48:15 AM
Trinity 7 Chapman 1

http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/boxscores/20130131_rhqv.xml?view=plays
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 01, 2013, 09:34:56 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 01, 2013, 08:48:15 AM
Trinity 7 Chapman 1

http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/boxscores/20130131_rhqv.xml?view=plays

Trinity's preseason-AA Ryan Lucero took a no-hitter into the eighth ... Chapman's only run was unearned. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 01, 2013, 05:48:53 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 01, 2013, 09:34:56 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 01, 2013, 08:48:15 AM
Trinity 7 Chapman 1

http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/boxscores/20130131_rhqv.xml?view=plays
Trinity's preseason-AA Ryan Lucero took a no-hitter into the eighth ... Chapman's only run was unearned. 
http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2013/boxscores/20130131_rhqv.xml
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 01, 2013, 05:51:07 PM
Trinity hit and pitched well. Trinity pitchers only gave up 1 run and only 2 hits and no hits thru 7 innings.

Chapman did not hit or pitch well last night . Chapman is a very young team and will get better with each game with only 1 senior on the roster. A lot of unknowns with Chapman's pitching at this time but expect them to get much better as the season progresses.

Trinity did had have 4 errors but did turn 2 double plays. 

Chapman played error free baseball and had some very good defensive plays. Chapman outfielders threw out runners runs at home and third for Chapman and the Chapman's catcher threw out a Trinity runner stealing and made a good tag at the plate. Also some nice defensive plays in the infield and outfield for Chapman.  Chapman also stole 3 bases. Chapman looks like they are much stronger defensively that last year. They have new position players at 3rd, SS, 2B, C and RF this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 02, 2013, 11:42:57 AM
Chapman has a very talented team, they are just young and it will take time for them to develop. They are facing probably one of the top 5 teams in the country so they should not be disappointed,they will get better.The TU team this year looks much stronger than last years team, and it was one game short of the CWS.

It will be interesting to watch Chapman's development this year, they are much better defensively than last year, their pitchers look good, just young, and same with their approach at the plate. Both of those things are fixable and even though they may have a low seed going into the SCIAC tournament at the end of the year, I would not want to be facing them in a elimination game late this season. Next year they will be very very good.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 02, 2013, 07:27:58 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on February 02, 2013, 11:42:57 AM
Chapman has a very talented team, they are just young and it will take time for them to develop. They are facing probably one of the top 5 teams in the country so they should not be disappointed,they will get better.The TU team this year looks much stronger than last years team, and it was one game short of the CWS.

It will be interesting to watch Chapman's development this year, they are much better defensively than last year, their pitchers look good, just young, and same with their approach at the plate. Both of those things are fixable and even though they may have a low seed going into the SCIAC tournament at the end of the year, I would not want to be facing them in a elimination game late this season. Next year they will be very very good.
Sunday was a indication how Chapman's players and coaches made adjustments and beat of the top teams in the West. I was impressed on that Sunday win. Most people would not have expected that after the way they played after the 1st 2 games. I am sure Trinity was shocked. Great job PANTHERS !!

This team will continue to get better as the season progresses. Really their goal is to make the SCIAC tournament and anything can happen after that.

Back in 2009 Chapman barely made it into the regionals as #6 seed and ending up winning the regional and were one game away from the Championship day all without their #1 All America pitcher.

Last year the #4 team in the SCIAC was 18-10 in conference and 23-16 overall. This year that will get you into the SCIAC tournament.,
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 02, 2013, 08:53:28 PM
Chapman 11 Trinity TX 1
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/releases/20130202immyn8
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 03, 2013, 12:02:24 PM
After nearly a decade of losses, I thought Caltech's win would generate a comment or two. Pacifica baseball wasn't a thing until November, but still. Caltech (1-1) is in second place in the SCIAC overall standings.

http://www.gocaltech.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/videos/VID00005 (http://www.gocaltech.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/videos/VID00005)
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Post by: Gray Fox on February 03, 2013, 02:36:55 PM
I attended the Oxy Game at Austin College yesterday.  It was the first game of a double header.  There will be two more today.  Oxy won 7-4.  Several Oxy parents were there. 

Austin has a very nice little stadium with an outfield so large that even Willie Mays would be overwhelmed.  They don't even mark the distances.  There was a very nice crowd of local fans.  But then there is not much to do in Sherman. :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 03, 2013, 04:42:02 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on February 03, 2013, 12:02:24 PM
After nearly a decade of losses, I thought Caltech's win would generate a comment or two. Pacifica baseball wasn't a thing until November, but still. Caltech (1-1) is in second place in the SCIAC overall standings.

http://www.gocaltech.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/videos/VID00005 (http://www.gocaltech.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/videos/VID00005)
Although early in the season WHO would ever thought Cal Tech would have a better winning percentage than Chapman.

http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2013/standings

Pigs must be flying and H*** must have frozen over.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on February 03, 2013, 05:08:42 PM
Break up the Beavers. ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WoostAr on February 04, 2013, 01:25:30 PM
Made it to ESPN on superbowl weekend.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8910922


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 08, 2013, 10:51:52 AM
Rain on Friday  in SoCal could cancel some games played by SCIAC teams  ??? ??? ???

Link to SCIAC baseball schedule (http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2013/schedule)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 09, 2013, 10:19:47 AM
Caltech may be able to get back into the win column today against the University of Antelope Valley (http://www.uav.edu/index.aspx?page=34), which was a club team last year, independent varsity in 2013 and has its sights set on NAIA membership (http://www.uavpioneers.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/releases/20121019rxucie). However, the UAV Pioneers are 5-1 with a roster (http://www.uavpioneers.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/roster) dominated by juniors and "sophmores."

I had never heard of the University of Antelope Valley. If its rapid expansion is any indication, UAV appears to be quite healthy despite my ignorance.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on February 09, 2013, 08:04:33 PM
They are the Pioneers.  I would have thought they would be Antelopes. :-*
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Post by: Richard Hamstocks on February 09, 2013, 08:37:00 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on February 09, 2013, 10:19:47 AMI had never heard of the University of Antelope Valley. If its rapid expansion is any indication, UAV appears to be quite healthy despite my ignorance.
By rapid expansion, is that in reference to the fact that they are up to three bachelors degrees (business management, criminal justice and nursing-online)? I think these places exist for athletics.  Alas, looks like they took 2 from the Beavers.  In other news, Pomona swept 2012 NWC co-conference champs Pacific.  Been a tough start to the weekend for contending west region contenders mixing it up with the SCIAC, with Cal Lutheran looking for a second one from Whitworth (tied in the rubber match as of this post), La Verne dismantling Linfield and Concordia falling to Whittier.  Of course, Redlands is still in the SCIAC...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 09, 2013, 09:47:44 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on February 09, 2013, 08:04:33 PM
They are the Pioneers.  I would have thought they would be Antelopes. :-*

I was thinking Jackalopes. I have been to the valley a number of times and have seen them roaming the area.
http://nicolezoltack.blogspot.com/2012/01/creature-of-week-jackalope.html (http://nicolezoltack.blogspot.com/2012/01/creature-of-week-jackalope.html)

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 09, 2013, 11:23:25 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on February 09, 2013, 08:37:00 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on February 09, 2013, 10:19:47 AMI had never heard of the University of Antelope Valley. If its rapid expansion is any indication, UAV appears to be quite healthy despite my ignorance.
By rapid expansion, is that in reference to the fact that they are up to three bachelors degrees (business management, criminal justice and nursing-online)? I think these places exist for athletics.  Alas, looks like they took 2 from the Beavers.  In other news, Pomona swept 2012 NWC co-conference champs Pacific.  Been a tough start to the weekend for contending west region contenders mixing it up with the SCIAC, with Cal Lutheran looking for a second one from Whitworth (tied in the rubber match as of this post), La Verne dismantling Linfield and Concordia falling to Whittier.  Of course, Redlands is still in the SCIAC...
Was thinking more along the lines of going from a 500-foot space for teaching CPR and first aid to an accredited university in a short time.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 11, 2013, 03:38:55 PM
4 SCIAC teams at or above .500 records
http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2013/standings

SCIAC Conference games start on Friday 2-15-2013
http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2013/schedule?confonly=1
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Richard Hamstocks on February 11, 2013, 04:13:46 PM
We'll get to see if Oxy is for real against Chapman.
6-0 but opponents winning percentage is .071 (Austin 1-6, La Sierra 0-8). Those teams were 8-29 and 4-33-1 in 2012.  I guess they're planning on winning SCIAC, as that schedule doesn't get you far in the conversation for an at-large (though La Sierra doesn't factor in).
I think Chapman takes at least two of three.   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 11, 2013, 05:35:47 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on February 11, 2013, 04:13:46 PM
We'll get to see if Oxy is for real against Chapman.
6-0 but opponents winning percentage is .071 (Austin 1-6, La Sierra 0-8). Those teams were 8-29 and 4-33-1 in 2012.  I guess they're planning on winning SCIAC, as that schedule doesn't get you far in the conversation for an at-large (though La Sierra doesn't factor in).
I think Chapman takes at least two of three.   
Oxy vs Chapman begins on Friday

Question 1 - Will Oxy finish in top 4 to make it to the SCIAC conference tournament?

Question 2- Has Chapman recovered from their 20-20 season in 2012 to compete and finish in top 4 in SCIAC to make it to SCIAC conference tournament.

Chapman has on 1 senior on the roster and many of their starting pitchers and relief pitchers are freshman.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 11, 2013, 05:57:49 PM
I think Chapman will most definitely give Oxy a good series and has a 50/50 shot at taking 2 of 3. Having not seen Oxy makes it difficult to really know, and yes Chapman is young, but they are talented and can play defense. They have two starting pitchers that will keep them in games, but their bullpen is suspect.....however they will continue to get better during the season and I think they will be part of the SCIAC equation.

Oxy did face weak competition so who knows... it does make it fun to speculate. ;)

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on February 11, 2013, 08:09:45 PM
Chapman dropped a 3-0 road contest to Cal State San Marcos Monday afternoon.
The teams go at it again Tuesday in San Marcos.
Line score:

Chapman 0-3-3
San Marcos 3-8-2

Full box score at "chapmanathletics .com".
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on February 11, 2013, 08:12:34 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on February 09, 2013, 08:37:00 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on February 09, 2013, 10:19:47 AMIn other news, Pomona swept 2012 NWC co-conference champs Pacific. 



I took a glance at the Pomona-Pitzer/Pacific box scores, and recognized PP's game 3 winner, C. Yen - a Frosh.  He has potential to be a mainstay top performer in the SCIAC conference, he was a very solid pitcher for a stacked Placentia El Dorado HS pitching squad.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Richard Hamstocks on February 11, 2013, 10:48:54 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on February 11, 2013, 08:12:34 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on February 09, 2013, 08:37:00 PM
In other news, Pomona swept 2012 NWC co-conference champs Pacific. 
I took a glance at the Pomona-Pitzer/Pacific box scores, and recognized PP's game 3 winner, C. Yen - a Frosh.  He has potential to be a mainstay top performer in the SCIAC conference, he was a very solid pitcher for a stacked Placentia El Dorado HS pitching squad.
That and another frosh (Rosenbaum) had a very strong outing against pre-season number 5 Whitworth (7IP, 0 R).  That's 2 Freshmen and a sophomore (Bruml) making strong starts in their first 4 games.  P-P should be competitive in the SCIAC for a while.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 11, 2013, 11:16:30 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on February 11, 2013, 05:57:49 PM
I think Chapman will most definitely give Oxy a good series and has a 50/50 shot at taking 2 of 3. Having not seen Oxy makes it difficult to really know, and yes Chapman is young, but they are talented and can play defense. They have two starting pitchers that will keep them in games, but their bullpen is suspect.....however they will continue to get better during the season and I think they will be part of the SCIAC equation.

Oxy did face weak competition so who knows... it does make it fun to speculate. ;)

I don't buy Oxy.....yet.  The teams they played are pretty bad but they can make themselves a legit threat by beating Chapman, but I really don't see that happening.  I think Oxy is moving in the right direction but don't think they can beat Chapman.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 12, 2013, 12:02:27 AM
Quote from: dahlby on February 11, 2013, 08:09:45 PM
Chapman dropped a 3-0 road contest to Cal State San Marcos Monday afternoon.
The teams go at it again Tuesday in San Marcos.
Line score:

Chapman 0-3-3
San Marcos 3-8-2

Full box score at "chapmanathletics .com".

Chapman had 3 errors, gave up 3 runs and had only 3 hits for the 3rd loss of the season...4 3's would be good if playing
poker....Chapman also walked 3 times and gave up 3 extra base hits and used 3 pitchers.
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/boxscores/20130211_nh9k.xml

Chapman needs to play good enough to finish in the TOP 4 in the SCIAC to get into the SCIAC tournament.

Chapman loses 3-0. 1 run scored on wild pitch and another run on a error....6 runners left on base.

Still early in the season and another game with San Marcos. Time to learn, adjust and make corrections before the SCIAC games.

Games starting counting for SCIAC on Friday with Oxy...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 12, 2013, 01:24:52 PM
Cal State San Marcos is an NAIA scholarshiped program. While the loss is not good for Chapman, it will not be a factor in determining their post-season fortunes.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 12, 2013, 02:27:52 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 12, 2013, 01:24:52 PM
Cal State San Marcos is an NAIA scholarshiped program. While the loss is not good for Chapman, it will not be a factor in determining their post-season fortunes.
Yes...All Chapman needs is Top 4 finish in SCIAC conference games to make it to the SCIAC post season tournament.

Chapman Monday faced San Marcos pitcher that was a LSU transfer who was throwing in the low to mid 90's with an outstanding slider with a dozen scouts watching. Throw out the error and wild pitch and it is a 1-0 game. San Marcos is 4-0 for the season.
http://www.csusmcougars.com/news/2013/2/11/BB_0211135025.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on February 12, 2013, 08:24:12 PM
Line score from San Marcos:

Chapman:       5  14  4
San Marcos:    9    8  4

Stats @ "chapmanathletics.com
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 13, 2013, 04:17:21 AM
Quote from: dahlby on February 12, 2013, 08:24:12 PM
Line score from San Marcos:

Chapman:       5  14  4
San Marcos:    9    8  4

Stats @ "chapmanathletics.com
SCIAC Standings
Who would ever thought we would see Cal Tech and Chapman have something in common in Baseball. Both open up the season with a 1-4 record sitting at the bottom of the SCIAC with identical overall records.  ???. 2011 seems so far in the past  playing for the National Championship vs Marrietta.

I guess play time is over for Chapman. Chapman(1-4) faces Occidental(6-0) to begin SCIAC conference play. Team's Chapman has played have a combined (8-1) record while Occidental has beaten teams with a combined(1-14) record. We will now see if playing great teams works in Chapman's favor.

Chapman needs to play better defense and get better pitching if they expect to compete in the SCIAC in 2013. In 5 games Chapman has 10 errors and given up 27 runs. Hitting is getting better. Chapman had 14 hits but only scored 5 runs in the last game vs San Marcos.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Richard Hamstocks on February 13, 2013, 10:40:31 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 12, 2013, 02:27:52 PM
Chapman Monday faced San Marcos pitcher that was a LSU transfer who was throwing in the low to mid 90's with an outstanding slider with a dozen scouts watching.
I would have thought they would have been ready for that after intra-squading vs Rauh for the last 3 years.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 13, 2013, 12:29:08 PM
Chapman is a talented but young team. They are nowhere near the caliber of the past championship teams. They lost 3 top line pitchers last year and are restocking with some young guys. IMO they will continue to develop this year and have a competitive team that has a chance of making it to the SCIAC tournament. Once in a tournament, a pitcher can have a lights out game, or a team can get hot, so who knows. IMO they are not a regional team. If they continue to develop and recruit they can have a successful season and can develop into a regional level team pretty quickly. JMO.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 13, 2013, 01:02:51 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on February 13, 2013, 12:29:08 PM
Chapman is a talented but young team. They are nowhere near the caliber of the past championship teams. They lost 3 top line pitchers last year and are restocking with some young guys. IMO they will continue to develop this year and have a competitive team that has a chance of making it to the SCIAC tournament. Once in a tournament, a pitcher can have a lights out game, or a team can get hot, so who knows. IMO they are not a regional team. If they continue to develop and recruit they can have a successful season and can develop into a regional level team pretty quickly. JMO.
Agreed Chapman will get better as the young guys learn. The real question is Chapman a year away with this team with only 1 Senior on the roster. Also Chapman lost their 3 top pitchers for 2013 due to injuries and they will be back in 2014.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 13, 2013, 03:13:53 PM
If they get three front line pitchers back for 2014 they could be very very good.....pitching injuries are big if's however.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 14, 2013, 04:57:48 PM
SCIAC STANDINGS 2-14-2013
SCIAC #1 vs SCIAC #9 starts on Friday
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2012-13/standings
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 14, 2013, 05:51:26 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 14, 2013, 04:57:48 PM
SCIAC STANDINGS 2-14-2013
SCIAC #1 vs SCIAC #9 starts on Friday
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2012-13/standings

My thoughts on the conference games this weekend....

Whittier 3-0
Chapman 3-0 (but I could really see this going 2-1)
Pomona 3-0
La Verne 2-1

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 14, 2013, 05:54:46 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 14, 2013, 05:51:26 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 14, 2013, 04:57:48 PM
SCIAC STANDINGS 2-14-2013
SCIAC #1 vs SCIAC #9 starts on Friday
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2012-13/standings

My thoughts on the conference games this weekend....

Whittier 3-0
Chapman 3-0 (but I could really see this going 2-1)
Pomona 3-0
La Verne 2-1
Yep it will be nice see Whitter on top of the SCIAC...Even though it may be a short stay there. Heck seeing Cal Tech/Chapman at the bottom right now is unreal view also even it is after 5 games. Chapman needs to take at least 2 out of 3 with OXY...

Start of the 28 game SCIAC conference games before the SCIAC Conference Tournament. Last year La Verne finished on top win 20 SCIAC conference wins.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on February 14, 2013, 06:03:22 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 14, 2013, 05:51:26 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 14, 2013, 04:57:48 PM
SCIAC STANDINGS 2-14-2013
SCIAC #1 vs SCIAC #9 starts on Friday
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2012-13/standings

My thoughts on the conference games this weekend....

Whittier 3-0
Chapman 3-0 (but I could really see this going 2-1)
Pomona 3-0
La Verne 2-1

...and how about the interesting G. Fox/CLU series?  Fox also plays a single game against Whittier.  George Fox was red-hot last weekend in Arizona and scoring a lot of runs, can they keep it rolling and sweep the four in So Cal?  I believe Fox was picked to finish 4th in NWC coaches poll.  I pick G. Fox to take 2 of 3 from CLU and beat Whittier for 3-1 weekend.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 14, 2013, 07:51:43 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on February 14, 2013, 06:03:22 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 14, 2013, 05:51:26 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 14, 2013, 04:57:48 PM
SCIAC STANDINGS 2-14-2013
SCIAC #1 vs SCIAC #9 starts on Friday
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2012-13/standings

My thoughts on the conference games this weekend....

Whittier 3-0
Chapman 3-0 (but I could really see this going 2-1)
Pomona 3-0
La Verne 2-1

...and how about the interesting G. Fox/CLU series?  Fox also plays a single game against Whittier.  George Fox was red-hot last weekend in Arizona and scoring a lot of runs, can they keep it rolling and sweep the four in So Cal?  I believe Fox was picked to finish 4th in NWC coaches poll.  I pick G. Fox to take 2 of 3 from CLU and beat Whittier for 3-1 weekend.

Yeah, thats an interesting series for sure.  Fox was lights out last weekend and CLU was ok, although would have looked better going 2-1.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 15, 2013, 04:08:54 PM
Chapman @ Occidental Friday 2-15-2013 2:30 PM PT
Following game on Live Stats and Video
http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on February 15, 2013, 08:15:53 PM
Chapman      3-9-0
Oxy         .....2-7-1
Box score at "chapmanathletics.com"
Two games at Chapman on Saturday.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 16, 2013, 06:05:43 AM
Quote from: dahlby on February 15, 2013, 08:15:53 PM
Chapman      3-9-0
Oxy         .....2-7-1
Box score at "chapmanathletics.com"
Two games at Chapman on Saturday.
Chapman got its first ever win in the SCIAC conference game  ;D with a 3-2 win over Occidental College on Friday. Great defense, great pitching and timely hitting help Chapman get the win. Chapman plays a double header on Saturday at home vs Occidental.

http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2013/contrib/20130215lebc0e

http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/boxscores/20130215_87oj.xml
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Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 16, 2013, 04:32:04 PM
Chapman 2 Occidental 1 
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Post by: pomonaalum on February 17, 2013, 10:00:33 AM
Hens sweep CMS - blowouts in the first two, and a 4-2 win in the final game.  7-0/3-0 on the season.  Looks like another solid FR class for Coach P - including the current #2 and #3 pitchers - Cameron Yen and Simon Rosenbaum.   8 straight wins over the Stags now....
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on February 17, 2013, 03:18:06 PM
The CLU victory over G. Fox made the Channel 4 11 o'clock news because it was a great comeback with two outs in the ninth and several batters getting hits with two strikes.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Richard Hamstocks on February 17, 2013, 10:40:59 PM
P-P's sub-2 team ERA goes up against Cal Lu's 8.33 runs per game average this weekend.  Something has got to give. 
Of course, Whitworth scored on average 8.33 runs per game in their 3 game series against Cal Lu, and managed all of 4 hits and 0 runs against P-P's now #3 starter and 5th(?) guy out of the pen. 


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CMSfan on February 19, 2013, 03:33:19 AM
Quote from: pomonaalum on February 17, 2013, 10:00:33 AM
Hens sweep CMS - blowouts in the first two, and a 4-2 win in the final game.  7-0/3-0 on the season.  Looks like another solid FR class for Coach P - including the current #2 and #3 pitchers - Cameron Yen and Simon Rosenbaum.   8 straight wins over the Stags now....

Yeah...it has been a rough go for my Stags on the diamond of late. At least Arce Field is still looking good!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 19, 2013, 03:41:32 AM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on February 17, 2013, 10:40:59 PM
P-P's sub-2 team ERA goes up against Cal Lu's 8.33 runs per game average this weekend.  Something has got to give. 
Of course, Whitworth scored on average 8.33 runs per game in their 3 game series against Cal Lu, and managed all of 4 hits and 0 runs against P-P's now #3 starter and 5th(?) guy out of the pen. 
Pomona ERA 1.98 OPP Bat .212
Cal LU BA .344 OBA .400 SLG% .520
Cal LU ERA 5.83

Pomona has hitting with pitching and will take at least 2 out of 3 IMO
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on February 22, 2013, 08:23:58 PM
Chapman over La Verne Friday afternoon:

ULV     0 9  1
CU       1 8  0

Stats at    www.chapmanathletics.com    .
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 22, 2013, 09:50:22 PM
Quote from: dahlby on February 22, 2013, 08:23:58 PM
Chapman over La Verne Friday afternoon:

ULV     0 9  1
CU       1 8  0

Stats at    www.chapmanathletics.com    .
Great pitching and defense wins games.
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2012-13/boxscores/20130222_cnz8.xml

http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/releases/20130222vqhmg1
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on February 24, 2013, 02:21:12 AM
Visiting Chapman and La Verne split a twin- bill Saturday afternoon.

Box scores and recaps at    www.chapmanathletics.com    .
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 24, 2013, 11:35:03 AM
So far early on in the season the SCIAC is a tight race. Only top 4 teams will go to the SCIAC tournment. Lots of baseball left.
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2012-13/standings
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 24, 2013, 02:22:56 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on February 17, 2013, 10:40:59 PM
P-P's sub-2 team ERA goes up against Cal Lu's 8.33 runs per game average this weekend.  Something has got to give. 
Of course, Whitworth scored on average 8.33 runs per game in their 3 game series against Cal Lu, and managed all of 4 hits and 0 runs against P-P's now #3 starter and 5th(?) guy out of the pen.

Looks like something did give.  Cal Lu had some big innings that fueled the series win.  I still think Pomona is the top pitching staff in the SCIAC and Cal Lu is the top hitting team.

In a very early review of the SCIAC, I would say Cal Lu and Pomona are the top 2 teams.  Chapman won a big series against La Verne and has won 2 tight battles so far.  Whittier has played the 2 worst teams and Redlands had some decent competition against the Beavers.  La Verne looks like they struggle at the plate.  They have no power at all but their pitching is pretty solid.  Oxy has played a weak schedule (minus Chapman) and it stays fairly easy for the next few weeks.

Lots of baseball yet to be played but I think the SCIAC is pretty solid for the top 6 teams.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Richard Hamstocks on February 24, 2013, 02:31:09 PM
Series I'm most looking forward to: cal tech v cms. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 24, 2013, 05:32:48 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on February 24, 2013, 02:31:09 PM
Series I'm most looking forward to: cal tech v cms.

A Cal Tech win would be even sweeter for a Pomona-Pitzer fan.  CMS looks like they are pretty bad.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 26, 2013, 11:04:10 PM
My thoughts on the way the SCIAC Tournament will end up....

Pomona and Cal Lu and 2 other teams.  I think Chapman is playing much better than many think and this weekend is huge for them.  I think the other 2 teams will be Chapman and La Verne or Oxy.  Still a ton of baseball yet to be played.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 28, 2013, 01:23:46 PM
Chapman has taken 2 out of 3 from Oxy and La Verne. Chapman needs to continue this trend with Cal Lu if they want to make the TOP 4 and the SCIAC conference tourney.

Remember Chapman is doing this with only 1 Senior on the roster and losing the #1, #2, #3 from 2012 starting pitchers due the draft and  injuries before the season began and losing the #1 incoming freshman pitcher due to injuries. Another starting pitcher from 2012 also chose to focus on school and left baseball.

http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/roster

http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/teams/chapman?view=lineup
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on March 01, 2013, 10:18:12 PM
Cal Lu over Chapman in the first game of the weekend series 7-5 at Cal Lu.
Three game series resumes with a twin-bill in Orange on Saturday.
Box score at    www.chapmanathletics.com   .
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on March 02, 2013, 07:56:12 PM
I was at the Redlands-Pomona Pitzer game yesterday to see their big kid (the 6'6" FR playing 3B and apparently pitches too). He looked good at the plate (HR) but had some trouble at 3B on a couple balls on his back hand side (still, what's a couple balls when you can get 4 back with one swing--he seems better suited for 1B so perhaps after Gentili graduates...). PP came out smoking and was up 7-1 in the 3rd. Redlands was about  to fall to a better team and PP was showing us why they were an early favorite to place 1 or 2 in the SCIAC.  We watched a few more innings and PP expanded its lead to 9-1. The rout was on. Its SP was breezing into the 6th and Redlands wasn't putting up much of a fight. Melting under the sun, we decided to leave early to beat the traffic on the 91  (I could hear whispers behind us that we must be "Dodger fans"). Later that night,  I checked the box score and was stunned to find out that Redlands scored 12 times in the last 3 innings and won 13-9. Besides showing what little I know about routs and bezbol, this one had to hurt if you were driving back to Pomona. Its just one game but I would be curious if the bullpen is the achilles heel of PP.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 02, 2013, 09:14:59 PM
I guess you were reminded of one of my favorite yogism's. Wow must have been a wild one.

I just check and Chapman dropped 2-3 to CLU, which is what I expected. I did not check the box scores but they seem competitive losing 7-5, 7-3 and taking the final game 9-6.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 04, 2013, 11:27:00 PM
Here is the toughness of the SCIAC teams' schedules by opponents winning %.

1) Chapman- .773%
2) CLU- .596%
3) CMS- .589%
4) Redlands- .560%
5) La Verne- .516%
6) Whittier- .487%
7) Pomona-Pitzer- .483%
8) Oxy- .194%

Pretty interesting numbers and I would say Chapman is doing a good job playing against a very tough schedule.  They might not be around at the end of the year but I fully expect them to be back next year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Richard Hamstocks on March 05, 2013, 06:46:29 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 04, 2013, 11:27:00 PM
Here is the toughness of the SCIAC teams' schedules by opponents winning %.

1) Chapman- .773%
2) CLU- .596%
3) CMS- .589%
4) Redlands- .560%
5) La Verne- .516%
6) Whittier- .487%
7) Pomona-Pitzer- .483%
8) Oxy- .194%

Pretty interesting numbers and I would say Chapman is doing a good job playing against a very tough schedule.  They might not be around at the end of the year but I fully expect them to be back next year.
I would caution against reading too much into strength of schedule numbers like opponents winning percentage this early in the season.  The rank (Spearman) correlation coefficient between winning percentage and opponents winning percentage is -.762, pretty large. If Chapman were winning more of those `tough' games, they would seemingly be playing a weaker schedule.  That being said, I think Chapman's schedule is well put together, and Oxy's hasn't been (Trinity vs Austin to open the season). 
 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on March 05, 2013, 07:26:28 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on March 05, 2013, 06:46:29 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 04, 2013, 11:27:00 PM
Here is the toughness of the SCIAC teams' schedules by opponents winning %.

1) Chapman- .773%
2) CLU- .596%
3) CMS- .589%
4) Redlands- .560%
5) La Verne- .516%
6) Whittier- .487%
7) Pomona-Pitzer- .483%
8) Oxy- .194%

Pretty interesting numbers and I would say Chapman is doing a good job playing against a very tough schedule.  They might not be around at the end of the year but I fully expect them to be back next year.
I would caution against reading too much into strength of schedule numbers like opponents winning percentage this early in the season.  The rank (Spearman) correlation coefficient between winning percentage and opponents winning percentage is -.762, pretty large. If Chapman were winning more of those `tough' games, they would seemingly be playing a weaker schedule.  That being said, I think Chapman's schedule is well put together, and Oxy's hasn't been (Trinity vs Austin to open the season). 


Besides it being early, it's also "luck of the draw" to an extent in terms of how the early portion of the conference play is scheduled in terms of opponents.  (which I'm assuming the individual teams do not dictate) 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 05, 2013, 08:32:24 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on March 05, 2013, 06:46:29 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 04, 2013, 11:27:00 PM
Here is the toughness of the SCIAC teams' schedules by opponents winning %.

1) Chapman- .773%
2) CLU- .596%
3) CMS- .589%
4) Redlands- .560%
5) La Verne- .516%
6) Whittier- .487%
7) Pomona-Pitzer- .483%
8) Oxy- .194%

Pretty interesting numbers and I would say Chapman is doing a good job playing against a very tough schedule.  They might not be around at the end of the year but I fully expect them to be back next year.
I would caution against reading too much into strength of schedule numbers like opponents winning percentage this early in the season.  The rank (Spearman) correlation coefficient between winning percentage and opponents winning percentage is -.762, pretty large. If Chapman were winning more of those `tough' games, they would seemingly be playing a weaker schedule.  That being said, I think Chapman's schedule is well put together, and Oxy's hasn't been (Trinity vs Austin to open the season). 


I agree 100%.  I was simply looking at a few things and one that I forgot to mention was that some of these teams have played Cal Tech and some have not.  Oxy is going to drop around .150% after this weekend but they will go way up in a few weeks.  Just something to pass the time.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on March 05, 2013, 09:00:16 PM
Just like all the polls and comments made year to date regarding team's strengths and weaknesses, Jack's posting was simply a measurement of where Chapman, and the other teams he listed, are at YTD. We can check these numbers at any time during the season and see how certain teams have progressed. Yes, it is early in the season, but that doesn't mean we should not be "checking the oil" along the way. Just like we do the rankings.

Thanks for your efforts, Jack!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 05, 2013, 11:10:44 PM
It is great to hear all the comments and viewpoints. With Cal Tech and Claremont this year, this will drive SCIAC teams SOS down as teams play them.

The goal of all SCIAC teams is to finish in the TOP 4 to make it to the SCIAC tournament and a shot at the Pool A bid.

All a team needs is to get hot in that tournament. It could be anyone.

A few years back Illinois Wesleyan barely made into their Conference tournament. Most of the year the team this team had a losing overall record. But they got hot at the right time. Won Conference Tourney, Regional and the National Championship from a team that was barely .500 entering their conference tourney
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Richard Hamstocks on March 05, 2013, 11:20:41 PM
Quote from: dahlby on March 05, 2013, 09:00:16 PM
Just like all the polls and comments made year to date regarding team's strengths and weaknesses, Jack's posting was simply a measurement of where Chapman, and the other teams he listed, are at YTD. We can check these numbers at any time during the season and see how certain teams have progressed. Yes, it is early in the season, but that doesn't mean we should not be "checking the oil" along the way. Just like we do the rankings.

Thanks for your efforts, Jack!
As well as "checking the oil", one should also check the "dipstick" to ensure that it is accurately measuring the "oil".
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on March 05, 2013, 11:24:32 PM
How correct you are Richard!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 05, 2013, 11:50:58 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 05, 2013, 11:10:44 PM
It is great to hear all the comments and viewpoints. With Cal Tech and Claremont this year, this will drive SCIAC teams SOS down as teams play them.

The goal of all SCIAC teams is to finish in the TOP 4 to make it to the SCIAC tournament and a shot at the Pool A bid.

All a team needs is to get hot in that tournament. It could be anyone.

A few years back Illinois Wesleyan barely made into their Conference tournament. Most of the year the team this team had a losing overall record. But they got hot at the right time. Won Conference Tourney, Regional and the National Championship from a team that was barely .500 entering their conference tourney
They got hot and healthy. That IWU team wasn't lacking in the talent department, especially the pitchers. Again, when healthy.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 07, 2013, 04:15:49 PM
SCIAC WEEKEND PREDICTIONS

Pomona vs Whitter  - Games for 1st place. I expect Pomona to sweep and go to 9-3 in conference
Occidental vs Cal Tech - Occidental to sweep and will be 7-2 in conference
Cal Lutheran vs Redlands - Cal Lu will take 2 of 3 and will be 6-3 in conference
Chapman vs Claremont - Chapman will sweep and will be 8-4 in conference

La Verne will remain 6-3 in conference
Whittier will be 5-4 in conference
Redlands will be 6-6 in conference
Claremont will be 1-11 in conference
Cal Tech will be 0-12 in conference


Teams in the race for TOP 4 SCIAC playoffs
Pomona, Cal Lu, La Verne, Occidental, Chapman.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 09, 2013, 11:11:45 AM
Whittier and Occidental should enjoy their stay in 1st place. They wont be there long and not sure they will make the TOP4 for the SCIAC tourney in May.

http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2013/standings
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CMSfan on March 09, 2013, 05:39:33 PM
CMS gives up 4 in the bottom of the ninth to drop the first game of the doubleheader to Chapman, 6-5. Painful to watch.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 11, 2013, 02:59:35 PM
Quote from: CMSfan on March 09, 2013, 05:39:33 PM
CMS gives up 4 in the bottom of the ninth to drop the first game of the doubleheader to Chapman, 6-5. Painful to watch.

Thats rough to say the least.

Pretty standard weekend in the SCIAC with the exception of Whittier taking 1 from Pomona.  I think each team played the same way they have all year.

Pomona- tough loss in game 3
Oxy- sweep of Cal Tech but game 2 was scoreless in the top of the 6th.  I just can't buy into this team at all.
Chapman- Swept CMS but as mentioned above, needed a complete meltdown to win game 2.
CLU- got shut down in game 1 and crushed Redlands in the double header.
Whittier- Looks like they can swing it a little bit.  Got one from Pomona which was likely unexpected.
CMS- Is the season over yet???
La Verne- Split 4 non-conference games.  Only scored 16 runs in 4 games and I just don't think their hitting is strong enough to win the SCIAC.
Cal Tech- obviously much improved and playing a few teams pretty close.  Gave up a bunch of big innings on Saturday.
Redlands- great pitching on Friday then their lack of depth showed on Saturday giving up 24 runs.

My 4 for the conference tournament right now are Pomona, CLU, Chapman and La Verne or Oxy.  Oxy finally gets into the tougher part of their schedule after starting out with one of the weakest in the nation.  Plenty of baseball left to be played.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 11, 2013, 03:38:40 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 11, 2013, 02:59:35 PM
Quote from: CMSfan on March 09, 2013, 05:39:33 PM
CMS gives up 4 in the bottom of the ninth to drop the first game of the doubleheader to Chapman, 6-5. Painful to watch.

Thats rough to say the least.

Pretty standard weekend in the SCIAC with the exception of Whittier taking 1 from Pomona.  I think each team played the same way they have all year.

Pomona- tough loss in game 3
Oxy- sweep of Cal Tech but game 2 was scoreless in the top of the 6th.  I just can't buy into this team at all.
Chapman- Swept CMS but as mentioned above, needed a complete meltdown to win game 2.
CLU- got shut down in game 1 and crushed Redlands in the double header.
Whittier- Looks like they can swing it a little bit.  Got one from Pomona which was likely unexpected.
CMS- Is the season over yet???
La Verne- Split 4 non-conference games.  Only scored 16 runs in 4 games and I just don't think their hitting is strong enough to win the SCIAC.
Cal Tech- obviously much improved and playing a few teams pretty close.  Gave up a bunch of big innings on Saturday.
Redlands- great pitching on Friday then their lack of depth showed on Saturday giving up 24 runs.

My 4 for the conference tournament right now are Pomona, CLU, Chapman and La Verne or Oxy.  Oxy finally gets into the tougher part of their schedule after starting out with one of the weakest in the nation.  Plenty of baseball left to be played.
Oxy 4-1 win over Cal Tech with OXY scoring only 1 EARNED RUN....Not very impressive for a team that is 13-2 and sitting on top of the SCIAC today. That should end before next Monday IMO...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 11, 2013, 07:25:07 PM
Oxy beats #23 Bridgewater and moves up a notch in my book.  That puts them at notch 1.  Good win for Oxy.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on March 11, 2013, 11:28:30 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 11, 2013, 07:25:07 PM
Oxy beats #23 Bridgewater and moves up a notch in my book.  That puts them at notch 1.  Good win for Oxy.

I agree. Much is said about Oxy's "easy" schedule but if it was that easy why doesn't everyone do it? There's a point where winning gets to be a habit and kids start to believe.  They are winning all of the games that they need to win so Maybe if they can steal a series or 2 from Pomona-Pitzer, La Verne, Redlands, Whittier and Cal Lu in the next few weeks, they could be in the hunt at the end of the season.     

Re Chapman, I like their chances of having a good "in region" overall record at the end if they can get their pitching in order:  A couple weeks back, they had one of those "star is born" moments with Tabor Watson. He came in against Cal Lu and shut them out over the last 7 innings to salvage the last game of their series. He's yet to give up an earned run ( 8 app-28 K's in 18 IP) and is racking up the K's with a high 80's FB. This year, T is having trouble getting consistency from his #1 and #3 SP's especially when they pitch against the better teams (Trinity and Cal Lu).  In years past, T liked to have a fireballer as a closer (if you remember John Semel in '09 and Kurt Yacko in "08 who both went pro) but last year, attempting to salvage the season, he put his closer into the starting rotation at mid season and Chapman seem to do better in the 2d half. Having Watson as a SP seems to better their odds of winning a weekend series and gives the other promising freshmen starter (Smith-who pitched well last weekend against CMS) a chance to develop without the pressure.  Plus Watson has a good back story. He came in last year as a transfer and started the season as the starting 2B and presumptive closer. He Faltered badly at both positions and found himself benched after a month of struggling -- only to resurrect himself at catcher in the 2d half because of his defensive skills/strong arm.  Now, he is in the midst of a dream season and maybe Chapman should jump on his back and go along for the ride. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Richard Hamstocks on March 11, 2013, 11:44:06 PM
Quote from: Colorado on March 11, 2013, 11:28:30 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 11, 2013, 07:25:07 PM
Oxy beats #23 Bridgewater and moves up a notch in my book.  That puts them at notch 1.  Good win for Oxy.

I agree. Much is said about Oxy's "easy" schedule but if it was that easy why doesn't everyone do it?
Because if you don't win the pool A bid, you have no chance at a pool C. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 12, 2013, 12:23:21 AM
Good stuff Colorado, nice to see a little intelligent insight.

I don't think anyone has said Oxy is a "bad" team, just that their W-L record does not necessarily earn them a spot on the "Crashes top teams in the West" list. (very vaunted place I might add) Last year U of Dallas started out winning 9 or 10, and ended up a respectable 23-17. They were a good baseball team, just not a "top team in the West".

Winning is contagious so lets see what happens. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 12, 2013, 01:40:37 AM
Monday's Chapman - Kean  game was one the best of the rivalry and one of the most exciting games Chapman/Kean games I have seen. I have been watching these teams battle against each other since 2007 both in Orange CA and Appleton, WI

Chapman 3 Kean 1
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/boxscores/20130311_6lls.xml

http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/releases/20130312oipzl9

WOW is all I can say....The play of the Chapman Freshman are AMAZING. They learning quick. Hitting & pitching. Outstanding pitching by both sides. ...Chapman could surprise a few people this year with this young team including me.

They also have a closer that reminds me of a another Chapman closer from a few years back. Taber Watson for Chapman faced 6 Kean batters and struck out 4 out of the 6 batters he faced to get his 5th save. He has an outstanding fastball and very unhittable slider and thrives to shut down a team with runners on base. He has 32k's in 20.1 IP ERA 0.00.

Outstanding pitching performance by Chapman from FR RHP Connor Williams. In his 1st college game he only gives up 1 run on against one of the top teams in the country. Could he be that pitcher Chapman needs....

This weekend will be a great series Chapman vs Pomona-Pitzer. Key series for the Panthers to see if will have a shot at making the TOP 4 to make the SCIAC tournament,

;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 12, 2013, 06:01:04 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 11, 2013, 07:25:07 PM
Oxy beats #23 Bridgewater and moves up a notch in my book.  That puts them at notch 1.  Good win for Oxy.
Great win for Oxy...If they can beat Ithaca and take 2 from Cal Lu, they will deserve a top 25 ranking IMO. They are winning the games they supposed to win. This could be their year to step out of the middle of the SCIAC and prove to everyone that many are wrong including me and others.

It happens. They have swept Austin, La Sierra, Claremont, Cal Tech and if they scored a few more runs against Chapman they would have swept them also. By next Monday OXY could have many believers. It getting hard to ignore a team with a 14-2 record. They could be 17-3 or 16-4 by next Monday....

OXY(14-2) gets no love in the TOP 25 poll this week while Pomona-Pitzer(13-4), Cal Lu(9-5-1) and La Verne(11-6) all got votes.
http://www.d3baseball.com/top25/2013/2013week-3
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 12, 2013, 01:12:41 PM
Chapman News - http://www.ocregister.com/news/going-498218-field-year.html
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 12, 2013, 05:48:33 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 12, 2013, 01:40:37 AM
Monday's Chapman - Kean  game was one the best of the rivalry and one of the most exciting games Chapman/Kean games I have seen. I have been watching these teams battle against each other since 2007 both in Orange CA and Appleton, WI

Chapman 3 Kean 1
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/boxscores/20130311_6lls.xml

http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/releases/20130312oipzl9

WOW is all I can say....The play of the Chapman Freshman are AMAZING. They learning quick. Hitting & pitching. Outstanding pitching by both sides. ...Chapman could surprise a few people this year with this young team including me.

They also have a closer that reminds me of a another Chapman closer from a few years back. Taber Watson for Chapman faced 6 Kean batters and struck out 4 out of the 6 batters he faced to get his 5th save. He has an outstanding fastball and very unhittable slider and thrives to shut down a team with runners on base. He has 32k's in 20.1 IP ERA 0.00.

Outstanding pitching performance by Chapman from FR RHP Connor Williams. In his 1st college game he only gives up 1 run on against one of the top teams in the country. Could he be that pitcher Chapman needs....

This weekend will be a great series Chapman vs Pomona-Pitzer. Key series for the Panthers to see if will have a shot at making the TOP 4 to make the SCIAC tournament,

;D
http://www.keanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/releases/031113
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 14, 2013, 12:18:37 AM
Several SCIAC players/teams can be in the NCAA top players/teams

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/baseball/d3/current/individual/200/p1
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 14, 2013, 07:09:29 PM
Who is better?

Occidental(15-2)
Pomona-Pitzer(13-4)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 15, 2013, 08:19:44 AM
Big SCIAC Games Today

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2012-13/standings

5 teams are TIED for 2nd place in the very tight SCIAC conference. Only the top 4 SPOTS go on to the SCIAC tournament for Pool A bid on May 3-5

Pomona-Pitzer(8-4) @ Chapman(8-4). Both are tied for 2nd place in SCIAC Conference with 8-4 conference records

Occidental(7-2) @ Cal Lutheran(6-3). 1ST Place vs 2nd place in SCIAC Conference.

6 teams have a shot being in 1st in the SCIAC conference by Monday


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 15, 2013, 09:34:00 AM
P-P takes 2/3

CLU sweeps, but Oxy may sneak out a close game for one W.

If I was Oxy I might reverse pitch my starters and have my #1 go Sunday...but coaches don't think like that very often. We will find out this weekend. 1) How far the Chapman team has developed 2) Is Oxy for real.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 15, 2013, 10:00:28 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 15, 2013, 09:34:00 AM
P-P takes 2/3

CLU sweeps, but Oxy may sneak out a close game for one W.

If I was Oxy I might reverse pitch my starters and have my #1 go Sunday...but coaches don't think like that very often. We will find out this weekend. 1) How far the Chapman team has developed 2) Is Oxy for real.
In an tight conference race, where lots of the top teams are about equal, and the critical factor is who wins the most 3-game series, I believe that you must employ that strategy so you don't lose a game that you cannot afford.

In some cases, that puts all of the pressure on game #3 in the series.

I believe that the ASC, the SCIAC and the NWC have that balance that forces that question to be addressed.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on March 15, 2013, 11:18:26 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 15, 2013, 09:34:00 AM
We will find out this weekend ...  2) Is Oxy for real.

Eyewitness report from Thousand Oaks:

Cal Lutheran 5, Oxy 3

Sloppy play and missed opportunities cost Oxy.

Oxy scored a run in the first but left the bases loaded.

In the bottom of the first CLU's Ronnie Burton led off with a liner to center which was botched by Scott Hong and was scored as a courtesy triple. The next batter Nicho DellaValle doubled and the game was tied 1-1.

In the second, after a wild pitch Oxy had 2nd and 3rd with two out but Jonathan Brooks K'd looking.

In the bottom of the third Kevin Leonard hit a liner to right which Alec Strain gloved but dropped, and that went for an RBI single. CLU led 3-1.

Oxy tied it in the sixth on a 2-run single by A.J. Libunao.

The bottom of the eighth was the killer for Oxy. Nick DeLorenzo singled and Mike Vinyard ran for him. John Leal walked. After a foul out, on a wild pitch Oxy got Leal in a rundown between 1st and 2nd but ran him towards 2nd instead of 1st. Vinyard meantime rounded third and Oxy got him in a rundown but failed to tag him, so both runners were safe. Instead of 2 outs and a runner at 2nd, CLU had runners at 2nd and 3rd. Garrett Smith cashed them in with a double. Oxy went out in order in the ninth.

Doubleheader at Oxy tomorrow. Maybe the Tigers will play better at home.

OxyBob

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 16, 2013, 12:28:22 AM
Thanks for the update OxyBob. Good luck tomorrow. I just checked the SCIAC website.

March 15

Pomona-Pitzer   8 Chapman    2    Final

Redlands   11 Whittier    5    Final

Claremont-Mudd-Scripps    5   La Verne    2    BOT 8
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 17, 2013, 12:50:12 PM
Did the bubble burst on Oxy's season?  Cal Lu swept the 3 games and after a close game on Friday, they dominated the double header.  Cal Lu's pitching has been very average but only gave up 6 runs in 3 games.  I think Oxy put itself in a pretty bad position with La Verne and Pomona still on their schedule and I don't see them taking either series.  Whittier is a must sweep for them too. 
Cal Lu put themselves in a pretty good position and I think the only "real" test left for them in the SCIAC is La Verne.  Still plenty of baseball left to be played and the new conference tournament is a great thing for the league.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 17, 2013, 01:12:18 PM
Top 4 for the SCIAC seem to be shaping up with CLU,PP, LaVern and Chapman starting to separate themselves. Oxy, Redlands and Whittier are in the mix for the four spot with LaVern and Chapman on the bubble.

Did not look at the upcoming match ups but I am sure there are a couple of series that will be critical.

Oxy is coming back to earth.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 27, 2013, 10:56:24 AM
BIG WEEKEND FOR SCIAC....Major implications for TOP 4 go to SCIAC PLAYOFFS  ;D

Mar. 29 
Chapman   Redlands   3:00 PM   
Whittier   Occidental   3:00 PM   
La Verne   Pomona-Pitzer   3:00 PM     
   
Mar. 30 
Occidental   Whittier   11:00 AM     
Redlands   Chapman   11:00 AM     
Pomona-Pitzer   La Verne   11:00 AM     
Occidental   Whittier   2:00 PM     
Pomona-Pitzer   La Verne   2:30 PM   
Redlands   Chapman   2:30 PM   
   

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: goodolsciac on March 30, 2013, 02:29:21 PM
3-0 La Verne after 1.  Rosenbaum leaves game with apparent elbow injury.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 31, 2013, 03:32:32 PM
TOP 4 SCIAC
http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2013/standing

1) Cal Lu
2) Pomona Pitzer
3) Redlands
4) TIED La Verne ...Occidental

Not Out but dying quickly
6) Whittier
7) Chapman

Not this year
8) Claremont

Rocket Scientists/
8) Cal Tech
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on April 01, 2013, 11:16:20 AM
Happy Opening Day!

A man was walking along the beach when he came upon an empty corked bottle. He picked it up and pulled out the cork, and suddenly in a cloud of mist a genie appeared. "Oh, thank you for freeing me, most gracious master," exclaimed the genie. "As a token of my great appreciation, I will grant you one wish."

The man pulled a folded-up world map from his back pocket and handed it to the genie. "My wish is for peace in the Middle East."

The genie handed the map back and scoffed, "That's impossible! Not even I with my genie powers can do that! I will therefore grant you another wish."

The man thought for a moment and said, "OK, I wish to see the Chicago Cubs win the World Series."

The genie replied, "Let me see that map again."

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on April 01, 2013, 01:21:03 PM
That was the best joke I've ever heard.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 01, 2013, 05:01:42 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on April 01, 2013, 11:16:20 AM
Happy Opening Day!

A man was walking along the beach when he came upon an empty corked bottle. He picked it up and pulled out the cork, and suddenly in a cloud of mist a genie appeared. "Oh, thank you for freeing me, most gracious master," exclaimed the genie. "As a token of my great appreciation, I will grant you one wish."

The man pulled a folded-up world map from his back pocket and handed it to the genie. "My wish is for peace in the Middle East."

The genie handed the map back and scoffed, "That's impossible! Not even I with my genie powers can do that! I will therefore grant you another wish."

The man thought for a moment and said, "OK, I wish to see the Chicago Cubs win the World Series."

The genie replied, "Let me see that map again."

OxyBob
It's looking more like a Cubs/Astros World Series every day. They've been on a collision course since opening day.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 01, 2013, 05:37:26 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 01, 2013, 05:01:42 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on April 01, 2013, 11:16:20 AM
Happy Opening Day!

A man was walking along the beach when he came upon an empty corked bottle. He picked it up and pulled out the cork, and suddenly in a cloud of mist a genie appeared. "Oh, thank you for freeing me, most gracious master," exclaimed the genie. "As a token of my great appreciation, I will grant you one wish."

The man pulled a folded-up world map from his back pocket and handed it to the genie. "My wish is for peace in the Middle East."

The genie handed the map back and scoffed, "That's impossible! Not even I with my genie powers can do that! I will therefore grant you another wish."

The man thought for a moment and said, "OK, I wish to see the Chicago Cubs win the World Series."

The genie replied, "Let me see that map again."

OxyBob
It's looking more like a Cubs/Astros World Series every day. They've been on a collision course since opening day.
Only if the rest of the teams replace their rosters 100% with their Triple A team. Yep a true APRIL FOOL's joke  :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on April 02, 2013, 02:17:52 PM
Just waiting for the other shoe to drop: Over the years, I'd occasionally see or hear about clashes between parent and coaches over the playing time of their son. In high school, there were a couple of embarassing moments taking place during games where conflicts boiled over into shouting matches.   By the time the child gets to college, I half expected  those days to have passed. 'Different environment' is what I thought. Players of a different skill level get tested and are sorted out. Its not a fair process and some good ones never get a chance.  Many times it just depends on a coach's bias or what bests fits his style but the bottom line is that they will usually make a call based on what they think they need to win. I suspect  that most of them will take an interest in his players. Some are better at it than others.   John Wooden is often held up as an example of that sort of good coach but every coach, even someone like Wooden, has to be tough on his players and only the style or personality in doing so will differ. Some coaches, especially the "tough-love" guys, are sometimes thought of as tyrants (like Bobby Knight or Woody Hayes) and are eventually run out of town when they finally "crossed the line".  For me, as long as the line is not crossed, I have no problem with a "tough, no nonsense" coach. Baseball is a game of failure. If you expect to succeed, you better learn a little about toughness and how to work through it. Some of that learning hopefully translates into real life after graduation. When my son was 2 weeks into his freshman year, he was lambasted by his college coach about being too soft. Reflective by nature, my son said that over the years, he's come to understand what his coach was doing and while he still doesn't like it, he notes that his mental toughness now came directly in response to his coach's criticism. So what we have in the moment is a parent complaining about how a coach is treating his freshman son  clashing with the style of a tough no-nonsense coach.  Who wins? In this age and time of correctness, I am guessing that the coach loses.   I don't know if this post fits here (a slight connection with SCIAC) but my apologies as I did not know how to start a new thread.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 02, 2013, 04:35:17 PM
Quote from: Colorado on April 02, 2013, 02:17:52 PM
Just waiting for the other shoe to drop: Over the years, I'd occasionally see or hear about clashes between parent and coaches over the playing time of their son. In high school, there were a couple of embarassing moments taking place during games where conflicts boiled over into shouting matches.   By the time the child gets to college, I half expected  those days to have passed. 'Different environment' is what I thought. Players of a different skill level get tested and are sorted out. Its not a fair process and some good ones never get a chance.  Many times it just depends on a coach's bias or what bests fits his style but the bottom line is that they will usually make a call based on what they think they need to win. I suspect  that most of them will take an interest in his players. Some are better at it than others.   John Wooden is often held up as an example of that sort of good coach but every coach, even someone like Wooden, has to be tough on his players and only the style or personality in doing so will differ. Some coaches, especially the "tough-love" guys, are sometimes thought of as tyrants (like Bobby Knight or Woody Hayes) and are eventually run out of town when they finally "crossed the line".  For me, as long as the line is not crossed, I have no problem with a "tough, no nonsense" coach. Baseball is a game of failure. If you expect to succeed, you better learn a little about toughness and how to work through it. Some of that learning hopefully translates into real life after graduation. When my son was 2 weeks into his freshman year, he was lambasted by his college coach about being too soft. Reflective by nature, my son said that over the years, he's come to understand what his coach was doing and while he still doesn't like it, he notes that his mental toughness now came directly in response to his coach's criticism. So what we have in the moment is a parent complaining about how a coach is treating his freshman son  clashing with the style of a tough no-nonsense coach.  Who wins? In this age and time of correctness, I am guessing that the coach loses.   I don't know if this post fits here (a slight connection with SCIAC) but my apologies as I did not know how to start a new thread.

IMO This place is not  the appropriate place to discuss something that impacts peoples lives. College players are young men that need to deal with any issues that come up by themselves without the involvement of others. Problems always occur when outsiders get involved.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 04, 2013, 01:14:39 PM
Only 1 game in the loss column separates 2 through 6 in the SCIAC for those TOP 4 spots for the SCIAC tourney.  :o :o :o :o

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2012-13/standings

Chapman trails by 2.    ??? ??? ???

Claremont and Cal Tech seasons will end soon and will not be playing in MAY...  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Richard Hamstocks on April 04, 2013, 02:54:21 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 04, 2013, 01:14:39 PM
Only 1 game in the loss column separates 2 through 6 in the SCIAC for those TOP 4 spots for the SCIAC tourney.  :o :o :o :o

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2012-13/standings

Chapman trails by 2.    ??? ??? ???

Claremont and Cal Tech seasons will end soon and will not be playing in MAY...  :'( :'( :'(
That's one way to look at it.  Redlands and PP only have 2 more SCIAC series to play, vs 3 for the other 3 teams.  PP has Cal Tech left, Redlands has CMS left.  More realistically, I think it's the other 3 teams (plus a Chapman team that has Cal Tech as one of their 2 remaining SCIAC series) playing for the 4th spot.   Actually, I think Chapman has the easiest road to the 4th spot, see below.

Assuming the Cal Tech and CMS games go according to plan (CLU and Redlands sweep CMS, P-P and Chapman sweep CIT), here's the standings, plus remaining series:

CLU 15-3 WC ULV
PP 15-6 OXY
UR 14-7 OXY
OXY 9-6 UR ULV P-P
ULV 9-6 WC OXY CLU
CU 12-9 WC
WC 8-7 ULV CLU CU

If Chapman sweeps Whittier, that probably figures to be enough.  Always nice to be in 7th place late in the season and virtually control your destiny regarding a regional bid. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 04, 2013, 04:10:15 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on April 04, 2013, 02:54:21 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 04, 2013, 01:14:39 PM
Only 1 game in the loss column separates 2 through 6 in the SCIAC for those TOP 4 spots for the SCIAC tourney.  :o :o :o :o

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2012-13/standings

Chapman trails by 2.    ??? ??? ???

Claremont and Cal Tech seasons will end soon and will not be playing in MAY...  :'( :'( :'(
That's one way to look at it.  Redlands and PP only have 2 more SCIAC series to play, vs 3 for the other 3 teams.  PP has Cal Tech left, Redlands has CMS left.  More realistically, I think it's the other 3 teams (plus a Chapman team that has Cal Tech as one of their 2 remaining SCIAC series) playing for the 4th spot.   Actually, I think Chapman has the easiest road to the 4th spot, see below.

Assuming the Cal Tech and CMS games go according to plan (CLU and Redlands sweep CMS, P-P and Chapman sweep CIT), here's the standings, plus remaining series:

CLU 15-3 WC ULV
PP 15-6 OXY
UR 14-7 OXY
OXY 9-6 UR ULV P-P
ULV 9-6 WC OXY CLU
CU 12-9 WC
WC 8-7 ULV CLU CU

If Chapman sweeps Whittier, that probably figures to be enough.  Always nice to be in 7th place late in the season and virtually control your destiny regarding a regional bid. 

In 2010 Illinois Wesleyan were NCAA DIII Baseball Champions. After their last game before their confernce tourney they were 19-19 over all and 12-9 in conference and the last seed in their Conference Tournament. Strange things can happen.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 07, 2013, 01:57:55 PM
SCIAC is getting down to the end.  CLU and Pomona are safe but anyone can fill the last 2 spots.  Those teams in the 3-4-5-6 range will either sink or swim during the 4 round-robin games.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 07, 2013, 06:18:23 PM
What great concept! This will be fun to watch. Should be fun for the players, coaches and fans! I am going to see if I can see one of the games.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 09, 2013, 11:26:54 PM
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Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 10, 2013, 03:23:47 PM
For those that haven't seen these very interesting articles, I'd like to point out D3baseball.com's "Where are they now" for the first and second all-decade teams.

The First Team http://d3baseball.com/columns/around-the-nation/2012/ATN_April4 (http://d3baseball.com/columns/around-the-nation/2012/ATN_April4) features P-P standout Jose Cortez, who still lives in Claremont after playing professionally, and continues to put on a hitting clinic at alumni games (just don't ask him to steal any bases).

The Second Team http://d3baseball.com/columns/around-the-nation/2013/where-are-they-now (http://d3baseball.com/columns/around-the-nation/2013/where-are-they-now) features recent P-P D3 Player of the year Drew Hedman. I had the privilege to play alongside Drew, and his 2009 season was unlike anything I've ever seen. I can't imagine anyone putting up those numbers again. He was also a phenomenal leader, a lead-by-example type who is going to do great things when his baseball career comes to a close.

And while they weren't technically in the SCIAC at the time, Chapman's teams of the 2000's were a sore spot on every SCIAC team's final record. It's no surprise that the Panthers have two players on the first team:
Devin Drag- who is an Outside Processing Specialist
Kurt Yacko- who is still in the Rockies organization, I believe with their High A affiliate in Modesto
And one on the second team:
Buddy Klovstad who is the CEO of his own company, as well as a pitching coach at El Modena HS
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 10, 2013, 03:44:45 PM
Back to the season at hand- can anybody clarify how the scheduling is determined for the four-team round robin at the end of the year? I believe I read somewhere that seeding is a factor, I'm just having trouble figuring out what it would look like.

As it stands, CLU would need to drop 4 of 6 against Whittier and La Verne with a P-P sweep of Oxy to lose the 1 seed heading into the round-robin. And there would have to be some major upsets for P-P to lose the two seed.
My predictions, heading into round robin:

1. CLU          20-4    (3-0 vs Whittier, 2-1 vs ULV)
2. PP             17-7   (2-1 vs Oxy, recent uncertainties make it tough to predict a sweep but I also wouldn't be surprised if they pull it off)
3. ULV          15-9   (2-1 vs Oxy, 1-2 vs CLU, advantage over Redlands in tiebreaker)
4. Redlands   15-9   (3-0 vs CMS)
5. Chapman  14-10 (3-0 vs CT, 2-1 vs Whittier)
6. Oxy          13-11 (1-2 vs ULV, 1-2 vs PP)
7. Whittier    9-15   (0-3 vs CLU, 1-2 vs Chapman)
8. CMS          5-19   (0-3 vs Redlands, 3-0 vs Cal Tech and no, even as a former Sagehen, I don't see them losing to the Beavers)
9. Cal Tech    0-24  :( I really hope the Beavers can snap their SCIAC losing streak, and they're getting closer, but probably not this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 10, 2013, 03:54:04 PM
Welcome Teddy Ballgame!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 10, 2013, 07:04:36 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 10, 2013, 03:54:04 PM
Welcome Teddy Ballgame!

Thanks! I've been following for a long time... and had an account or two when I was playing (probably not my best idea).

Excited about the SCIAC this year and prospects for the regionals. This is a big weekend with Linfield coming down and I think the outcome of the series against Linfield- as well as ULV's solo game against the Wildcats- will be significant for each conference.

Linfield has a chance to really cement their place at the top of the national rankings (and regional rankings due out in a few weeks) with a strong showing in Southern California. Their strong SOS will go up, and they would show their ability to win games against tough opponents on the road. However, they are 1-1 against the SCIAC right now, and appear to be the cream of the crop in their conference. Struggling versus SCIAC teams would be a knock on the conference as a whole- George Fox is only 3-3 against SCIAC teams, including a loss to Whittier- when considering Pool C bids.

Pomona-Pitzer gets to prove they are for real against some quality competition. While their win against Whitworth seemed impressive at the time, it doesn't hold much weight now as the Pirates are sitting in 8th place in the NWC. The Ithaca win is a good one, but happened at different parts of each teams' seasons and doesn't matter for regional rankings. And the Hens dropped 2 of 3 to Cal Lu. This weekend could be the difference if they slip up in the conference tournament and need a Pool C bid.

La Verne can really make a statement with a win against Linfield. They beat them their first game this season, and doing so again validates that win, gives them momentum heading into the CLU series, and could ultimately push them into Pool C consideration if they finish strong in SCIAC.

Oh and props to Linfield for making it out to Southern California and Arizona this year. I believe George Fox did as well. I know it's not easy with small D3 athletic budgets... Pomona only gets to make one regular season out-of-state trip every two years (Arizona), and I don't think there are any SCIAC teams that do it more than once.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 10, 2013, 07:18:05 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 10, 2013, 03:44:45 PM
Back to the season at hand- can anybody clarify how the scheduling is determined for the four-team round robin at the end of the year? I believe I read somewhere that seeding is a factor, I'm just having trouble figuring out what it would look like.

As it stands, CLU would need to drop 4 of 6 against Whittier and La Verne with a P-P sweep of Oxy to lose the 1 seed heading into the round-robin. And there would have to be some major upsets for P-P to lose the two seed.
My predictions, heading into round robin:

1. CLU          20-4    (3-0 vs Whittier, 2-1 vs ULV)
2. PP             17-7   (2-1 vs Oxy, recent uncertainties make it tough to predict a sweep but I also wouldn't be surprised if they pull it off)
3. ULV          15-9   (2-1 vs Oxy, 1-2 vs CLU, advantage over Redlands in tiebreaker)
4. Redlands   15-9   (3-0 vs CMS)
5. Chapman  14-10 (3-0 vs CT, 2-1 vs Whittier)
6. Oxy          13-11 (1-2 vs ULV, 1-2 vs PP)
7. Whittier    9-15   (0-3 vs CLU, 1-2 vs Chapman)
8. CMS          5-19   (0-3 vs Redlands, 3-0 vs Cal Tech and no, even as a former Sagehen, I don't see them losing to the Beavers)
9. Cal Tech    0-24  :( I really hope the Beavers can snap their SCIAC losing streak, and they're getting closer, but probably not this year.

I agree with this 100%.  I think it would take a miracle for CLU and Pomona to drop out of the top 2 and the race for 3-4 is going to be a good one.  The team with the toughest road is Oxy but they have played well.  The team that can play spoiler the most is Whittier.  They have the ability to be good and take a series from anyone but can they do it?  I am really pulling for the Beavers to win one.

As far as a Pool C bid, this weekend will be huge for Pomona, unless they are able to get the Pool A.  Unless CLU completely falls apart, I think they are as close to a lock as you can get (at this point) but multiple losses for Pomona this weekend could really hurt them.  I really believe the SCIAC is a 2-bid league this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on April 10, 2013, 08:36:52 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 10, 2013, 07:18:05 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 10, 2013, 03:44:45 PM
Back to the season at hand- can anybody clarify how the scheduling is determined for the four-team round robin at the end of the year? I believe I read somewhere that seeding is a factor, I'm just having trouble figuring out what it would look like.

As it stands, CLU would need to drop 4 of 6 against Whittier and La Verne with a P-P sweep of Oxy to lose the 1 seed heading into the round-robin. And there would have to be some major upsets for P-P to lose the two seed.
My predictions, heading into round robin:

1. CLU          20-4    (3-0 vs Whittier, 2-1 vs ULV)
2. PP             17-7   (2-1 vs Oxy, recent uncertainties make it tough to predict a sweep but I also wouldn't be surprised if they pull it off)
3. ULV          15-9   (2-1 vs Oxy, 1-2 vs CLU, advantage over Redlands in tiebreaker)
4. Redlands   15-9   (3-0 vs CMS)
5. Chapman  14-10 (3-0 vs CT, 2-1 vs Whittier)
6. Oxy          13-11 (1-2 vs ULV, 1-2 vs PP)
7. Whittier    9-15   (0-3 vs CLU, 1-2 vs Chapman)
8. CMS          5-19   (0-3 vs Redlands, 3-0 vs Cal Tech and no, even as a former Sagehen, I don't see them losing to the Beavers)
9. Cal Tech    0-24  :( I really hope the Beavers can snap their SCIAC losing streak, and they're getting closer, but probably not this year.

I agree with this 100%.  I think it would take a miracle for CLU and Pomona to drop out of the top 2 and the race for 3-4 is going to be a good one.  The team with the toughest road is Oxy but they have played well.  The team that can play spoiler the most is Whittier.  They have the ability to be good and take a series from anyone but can they do it?  I am really pulling for the Beavers to win one.

As far as a Pool C bid, this weekend will be huge for Pomona, unless they are able to get the Pool A.  Unless CLU completely falls apart, I think they are as close to a lock as you can get (at this point) but multiple losses for Pomona this weekend could really hurt them.  I really believe the SCIAC is a 2-bid league this year.

Yes, both the SCIAC and NWC are very well-positioned to send two teams to the regional.  I give Linfield an edge over over Pomona this weekend, as I think their starting pitchers are very solid, and have a touch more experience than P-P.  Both offenses are probably closely matched?

I would not necessarily categorize Linfield as the "cream of the crop" in the NWC, as they are tied with George Fox in the conference standings.

Yes, both G. Fox and Linfield traveled to the Arizone Classic, and Fox and Linfield have/will play SCIAC series in So Cal.  Also, Whitman College plays in the Arizona Classic every year, including this year, plus they played a DH at CMS this season and will be traveling back down to So Cal to play 4 games versus Redlands in two weeks.  They also traveled down to play Chapman last year.

And, I would add that Lewis and Clark College flew twice this season to play in Arizona.

Why don't SCIAC schools, and particularly the well-endowed Pomona, loosen the purse-strings a bit and do more weekend travel?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 10, 2013, 08:38:03 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 10, 2013, 07:18:05 PM
I agree with this 100%.  I think it would take a miracle for CLU and Pomona to drop out of the top 2 and the race for 3-4 is going to be a good one.  The team with the toughest road is Oxy but they have played well.  The team that can play spoiler the most is Whittier.  They have the ability to be good and take a series from anyone but can they do it?  I am really pulling for the Beavers to win one.

As far as a Pool C bid, this weekend will be huge for Pomona, unless they are able to get the Pool A.  Unless CLU completely falls apart, I think they are as close to a lock as you can get (at this point) but multiple losses for Pomona this weekend could really hurt them.  I really believe the SCIAC is a 2-bid league this year.

Oxy taking two of three from Redlands surprised me. Maybe I shouldn't be so quick to write them off. Even when they were having their worst years, they always had the talent to take a good team by surprise and steal (literally- they have 72 bags this year) a game or even a series. I don't see the math getting them into the top 4, but they definitely could be a spoiler. Taking a series from ULV probably takes the Leos out of Pool C contention, and taking a couple from the Hens would really hurt PP's resume.

And maybe Redlands is more vulnerable than we think going into CMS. CMS has surprised the Bulldogs in the past.

Its tough for me to be too sure about anything though, since I'm not even sure how the heck the round robin works! It's certainly shaping up to be another interesting year in the SCIAC, and that's even considering Chapman's first year has turned out to be a flop! Although I know better than to completely count the Panthers out and dead...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 10, 2013, 08:51:43 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on April 10, 2013, 08:36:52 PM
Yes, both the SCIAC and NWC are very well-positioned to send two teams to the regional.  I give Linfield an edge over over Pomona this weekend, as I think their starting pitchers are very solid, and have a touch more experience than P-P.  Both offenses are probably closely matched?

I would not necessarily categorize Linfield as the "cream of the crop" in the NWC, as they are tied with George Fox in the conference standings.

Yes, both G. Fox and Linfield traveled to the Arizone Classic, and Fox and Linfield have/will play SCIAC series in So Cal.  Also, Whitman College plays in the Arizona Classic every year, including this year, plus they played a DH at CMS and will be travelling back down to So Call to play 4 games versus Redlands in two weeks.  They also traveled down to play Chapman last year.

Why don't SCIAC schools, and particularly the well-endowed Pomona, loosen the purse-strings a bit and do more weekend travel?

I agree mostly with your assessment of Linfield-Pomona, particularly if Rosenbaum is sidelined again. The Hens can definitely swing it though, and are 14-2 at home. Can't imagine a sweep either way.

I see Linfield ahead of GFU because they don't have some of the bad losses that George Fox does, plus Fox still has to play PLU. But obviously I haven't seen either in person...

As for your last question, Pomona's student paper recently looked into the issue of athletic budgets.
http://tsl.pomona.edu/articles/2013/4/8/sports/3850-special-report-breaking-down-the-athletics-budget (http://tsl.pomona.edu/articles/2013/4/8/sports/3850-special-report-breaking-down-the-athletics-budget) and
http://tsl.pomona.edu/articles/2013/4/8/sports/3851-special-report-athletic-atmosphere-on-campus (http://tsl.pomona.edu/articles/2013/4/8/sports/3851-special-report-athletic-atmosphere-on-campus)

Pretty interesting stuff... there were also some graphs that didn't make it into the online version. It seems to me that the overall attitude at Pomona (note that Pitzer doesn't contribute any money to the athletic programs) is that all of its athletics have what they need. They don't want to pony up for the extras at the possible expense of academics or some other extra-curricular program. The people making the big decisions on budgets appreciate sports as a nice element of a well-rounded student, and not much more than that. Trying to explain why we need extra money to send a team to Oregon to help increase its in-region winning percentage, OWP, OOWP, and ultimate Pool C viability gets completely lost in translation in the conversation from baseball coach to AD, AD to administration. Particularly when schools from across the country continue to travel to sunny Southern California on their own dime. I imagine the same is largely true at other SCIAC schools, although Pomona only has the 6th largest athletic budget in the conference.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on April 10, 2013, 09:01:10 PM
Thanks for those links, Teddy, I'll definitely read those articles.  When you refer to G. Fox's "bad losses" in D3 competition, I'm assuming you mean dropping a game to Whittier and losing two to Whitman?

Whittier as you know has the capability to rise up and take a very good team down, and Whitman is an interesting team, as they can also look like world-beaters on any given day this season (which hasn't been the case for about 3 decades maybe?)  They have wins against Hardin Simmons, and UT-Dallas out of conference (not a great team, but...)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: playball on April 10, 2013, 09:08:57 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on April 10, 2013, 09:01:10 PM
Thanks for those links, Teddy, I'll definitely read those articles.  When you refer to G. Fox's "bad losses" in D3 competition, I'm assuming you mean dropping a game to Whittier and losing two to Whitman?

Whittier as you know has the capability to rise up and take a very good team down, and Whitman is an interesting team, as they can also look like world-beaters on any given day this season (which hasn't been the case for about 3 decades maybe?)  They have wins against Hardin Simmons, and UT-Dallas out of conference (not a great team, but...)

And thats why the games are played.  Whitman has been TERRIBLE the last few years but any one bounce either way and BOOM! You have a W for the underdog
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 10, 2013, 09:28:27 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on April 10, 2013, 09:01:10 PM
Thanks for those links, Teddy, I'll definitely read those articles.  When you refer to G. Fox's "bad losses" in D3 competition, I'm assuming you mean dropping a game to Whittier and losing two to Whitman?

Whittier as you know has the capability to rise up and take a very good team down, and Whitman is an interesting team, as they can also look like world-beaters on any given day this season (which hasn't been the case for about 3 decades maybe?)  They have wins against Hardin Simmons, and UT-Dallas out of conference (not a great team, but...)


My mistake. I was thinking they had been swept by UPS, but that was PLU. Oops! Still the Whitman and Whittier losses are a little problematic, particularly in comparing them to Linfield's resume- who has already gotten through PLU. Maybe cream of the crop wasn't the best term, but they are definitively ahead of George Fox in my book. Pretty similar to how I view CLU and PP right now. PP and Fox have had very good seasons, but CLU and Linfield have been better in all the most important ways.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on April 10, 2013, 10:34:33 PM
Yes, I agree Teddy, Linfield and CLU are a notch above Fox/PP, but we all really want to see all four make the West Regional - NO OUTSIDE OF REGION TEAMS SHIPPED IN THIS YEAR!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on April 11, 2013, 09:17:47 AM
Tereschuk on leave from Panthers   :(

http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2013/04/tereschuk-chapman

Chapman University baseball head coach Tom Tereschuk has been placed on indefinite administrative leave since March 28 as Chapman investigates allegations regarding violations of university policy. The news was first reported April 8 in Chapman's student newspaper, The Panther.

A local TV station posted this article:  http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/04/10/chapman-baseball-coach-on-leave-for-alleged-profanity/

The timing between this suspension and the recent Rutgers situation is way too coincidental for my liking.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 11, 2013, 11:13:46 AM
OMG!

Have you ever been around a college program??  :o

My goodness........ The coach used a "bad word" so I am going to report him  ::)

Unbelieveable.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on April 11, 2013, 11:33:16 AM
Goodness gracious sakes alive.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 11, 2013, 11:52:36 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 11, 2013, 11:13:46 AM
OMG!

Have you ever been around a college program??  :o

My goodness........ The coach used a "bad word" so I am going to report him  ::)

Unbelieveable.

http://www.myfoxla.com/story/21938954/chapman-baseball-coach-suspended-for-swearing
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 11, 2013, 12:11:21 PM
I guess the code of conduct thing could be an issue depending on exactly what we're talking about. I don't know if profanity in and of itself rises to the level of verbal abuse, though it certainly could be part of an abusive act.

But coaches should be held to the same standard of conduct that students are. There's plenty of room for "motivational tools" that stop short of abuse.

I hope for a fair investigation and that justice is done, whatever result that is. I don't think there is a shortage of good coaches that want to lead Chapman baseball.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wildcat11 on April 11, 2013, 01:01:57 PM
What a world we're living in.   :-\
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 11, 2013, 02:45:53 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 11, 2013, 12:11:21 PM
I guess the code of conduct thing could be an issue depending on exactly what we're talking about. I don't know if profanity in and of itself rises to the level of verbal abuse, though it certainly could be part of an abusive act.

But coaches should be held to the same standard of conduct that students are. There's plenty of room for "motivational tools" that stop short of abuse.

I hope for a fair investigation and that justice is done, whatever result that is. I don't think there is a shortage of good coaches that want to lead Chapman baseball.
Chapman needs to reinstate this coach he has over 500+ supporters on FB and have written, called the Adminstration supporting what a positive difference he has made on so many players lives for so many years.

There are many good coaches out there. BUT so few great coaches. Chapman coach fits the GREAT category. Many schools/players would love to have him.

Look at Augie Gurrido at Texas and formerly of Cal State Fullerton that has won numerous D1 National Championships at Fullerton and Texas. He is another GREAT coach.



Google augie garrido flips out youtube
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 11, 2013, 03:01:26 PM
Cubs fans choose Lee Elia's tirade. NSFW, folks.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 11, 2013, 03:02:49 PM


Google augie garrido flips out youtube
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One of the best videos ever.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 11, 2013, 03:50:15 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 11, 2013, 02:45:53 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 11, 2013, 12:11:21 PM
I guess the code of conduct thing could be an issue depending on exactly what we're talking about. I don't know if profanity in and of itself rises to the level of verbal abuse, though it certainly could be part of an abusive act.

But coaches should be held to the same standard of conduct that students are. There's plenty of room for "motivational tools" that stop short of abuse.

I hope for a fair investigation and that justice is done, whatever result that is. I don't think there is a shortage of good coaches that want to lead Chapman baseball.
Chapman needs to reinstate this coach he has over 500+ supporters on FB and have written, called the Adminstration supporting what a positive difference he has made on so many players lives for so many years.

There are many good coaches out there. BUT so few great coaches. Chapman coach fits the GREAT category. Many schools/players would love to have him.

Look at Augie Gurrido at Texas and formerly of Cal State Fullerton that has won numerous D1 National Championships at Fullerton and Texas. He is another GREAT coach.



Google augie garrido flips out youtube

I am sure they do need to re-instate him and probably will with the positive impact he has had. But they should investigate. If he signed the agreement mentioned in several articles and then violated that agreement or appears to have, then they need to investigate. This is D3, Coaches and players should be held to the same standard as the rest of the student population. They just cannot ignore it.

I hope they finish this quickly and bring him back.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: playball on April 11, 2013, 03:59:27 PM
I wonder how popular this Newman kid is with his former teammates?   Baseball is a colorful sport, not saying swearing should be as prevalent as it may be but good grief. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 11, 2013, 04:58:15 PM
........There would be very few college baseball teams if swearing was not allowed.  ::)

It was not long ago there was an article in the Orange County Register talking about how Terechuck was the best baseball coach in SoCal INCLUDING all of the successful D1 programs.....

Hopefully they get this done quickly and move on.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 11, 2013, 05:17:22 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 11, 2013, 02:45:53 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 11, 2013, 12:11:21 PM
I guess the code of conduct thing could be an issue depending on exactly what we're talking about. I don't know if profanity in and of itself rises to the level of verbal abuse, though it certainly could be part of an abusive act.

But coaches should be held to the same standard of conduct that students are. There's plenty of room for "motivational tools" that stop short of abuse.

I hope for a fair investigation and that justice is done, whatever result that is. I don't think there is a shortage of good coaches that want to lead Chapman baseball.
Chapman needs to reinstate this coach he has over 500+ supporters on FB and have written, called the Adminstration supporting what a positive difference he has made on so many players lives for so many years.


If that's what justice is in this case, then I'm all for it. I wish all the Chapman fans here the best in this trying time and just hope that whatever happens is what should have happened.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 11, 2013, 05:18:52 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 11, 2013, 04:58:15 PM
........There would be very few college baseball teams if swearing was not allowed.  ::)

It was not long ago there was an article in the Orange County Register talking about how Terechuck was the best baseball coach in SoCal INCLUDING all of the successful D1 programs.....

Hopefully they get this done quickly and move on.
This has gone on for over 2 weeks. Unreal....This has put the team, coach, coaches, staff and their families thru H****.  Oops I could be ban from this board....
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on April 11, 2013, 05:27:12 PM
Quote from: playball on April 11, 2013, 03:59:27 PM
I wonder how popular this Newman kid is with his former teammates?   Baseball is a colorful sport, not saying swearing should be as prevalent as it may be but good grief.

If you read the comments on the article in the student paper, he (or someone claiming to be him) is on record as saying that he was pretty heinously misquoted.

BTW, I checked the stats, he didn't play in '09, appeared in 14 games his senior year, starting 2 of those, batted .350ish. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wildcat11 on April 11, 2013, 06:02:25 PM
Chapman Facebook support "Coach T" page:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/119740221553001/119744018219288/?notif_t=group_activity (https://www.facebook.com/groups/119740221553001/119744018219288/?notif_t=group_activity)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 11, 2013, 06:03:17 PM
To lighten the mood a bit on Chapman, take a gander at former Panther All-America pitcher Brian Rauh's 2013 MiLB mugshot (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=621388). Look him up if you're rounding up a posse.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 11, 2013, 06:09:33 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 11, 2013, 06:03:17 PM
To lighten the mood a bit on Chapman, take a gander at former Panther All-America pitcher Brian Rauh's 2013 MiLB mugshot (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=621388). Look him up if you're rounding up a posse.

LOL......future Rollie Fingers......not

Now THAT is something to cuss about.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 11, 2013, 07:14:44 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 11, 2013, 05:18:52 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 11, 2013, 04:58:15 PM
........There would be very few college baseball teams if swearing was not allowed.  ::)

It was not long ago there was an article in the Orange County Register talking about how Terechuck was the best baseball coach in SoCal INCLUDING all of the successful D1 programs.....

Hopefully they get this done quickly and move on.
This has gone on for over 2 weeks. Unreal....This has put the team, coach, coaches, staff and their families thru H****.  Oops I could be ban from this board....
Moderator comment:

H****.  In this context, I assume that is the Greek mythological location of the underworld.

That is appropriate on a D-III board.   ;)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on April 12, 2013, 06:41:09 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 11, 2013, 03:01:26 PM
Cubs fans choose Lee Elia's tirade.

X-rated version. Beware! Bad language ahead!
Lee Elia tirade (http://www.leeelia.com/lee_elia_br.mp3)

Rivals Tom Lasorda going off on Dick Williams and Kurt Bevacqua. X-rated version. Beware! More bad language ahead!
Tom Lasorda tirade (http://www.astroland.net/Blogmusic/Lasorda%20on%20Dick%20Williams%20and%20Kurt%20Bevacqua.mp3)

As for the Chapman players who ratted out their coach for cussing, I found a picture of them in their uniforms:

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.thegloss.com%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F04%2Fleague.jpg&hash=a1a870d12bb241911cf599a82812224e68a23ebe)

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on April 13, 2013, 03:46:33 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on April 11, 2013, 05:27:12 PM
Quote from: playball on April 11, 2013, 03:59:27 PM
I wonder how popular this Newman kid is with his former teammates?   Baseball is a colorful sport, not saying swearing should be as prevalent as it may be but good grief.

If you read the comments on the article in the student paper, he (or someone claiming to be him) is on record as saying that he was pretty heinously misquoted.

BTW, I checked the stats, he didn't play in '09, appeared in 14 games his senior year, starting 2 of those, batted .350ish.


Newman is not a bad kid. He later explained that for most of his interview, he offered a predominantly positive view of T but the reporter only used the couple quotes about getting yelled at.  He might have said 15 or 16 things about T with most of it being "good" but none of those fit the story line. Newman only played his freshman year (2010) and is a senior this year. He quit the team just as the 2011 team was starting -- opting to join a frat (frat life is pretty big at Chapman). Because of his bat, odds were good that he was going to get a chance to play but he just made a choice that later he expressed some regret doing so. Can't speak for the others but my son still talks to Newman. The triggering incident came about in a game that chapman was losing. A small group of freshmen players burst out laughing for a brief moment but T was  irritated. After the game, he chewed out the team about it. One of the players told his dad and a complaint was filed. I hope T stays not because he has a great record or even because, as my son says, he makes the players accountable or forces them to grow up a little but because to be fired for these reasons would be idiotic. There is a point where mom and dad have to let the boy be on his own. Add the fact that you're dealing with a man's livelihood and how he supports his family and it becomes mind boggling. This is now the 2d incident in 6 weeks in which a freshman parent complained and triggered an investigation ( the earlier one had nothing to do with T) but it was along the  same lines  of the parent being upset about her son getting a haircut during rookie night. It's not an excuse but seeing how Chapman has collapsed in that time frame, I imagine the uncertainty and anxiety of player interviews were a distraction.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 13, 2013, 08:34:25 AM
Thanks Colorado. Parents complaining about college baseball coaches swearing....unbelieveable. Even more unbelievable how long this has gone on and how Chapman is handling it.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just_Some_Guy on April 13, 2013, 10:18:36 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 13, 2013, 08:34:25 AM
Thanks Colorado. Parents complaining about college baseball coaches swearing....unbelieveable. Even more unbelievable how long this has gone on and how Chapman is handling it.

These are the same types of parents that do their kid's homework all the way through high school, hire expensive tutors, drive their kid to interviews and sit in the lobby.

It's insanity. There was a time when teachers and coaches got the benefit of the doubt, not junior.

I think Mike Matheny's manifesto on the subject was excellent:
http://missouriwarriorsbaseball.com/files/2011/02/Matheny-Manifesto-v2.pdf

JSG
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 13, 2013, 11:33:33 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 13, 2013, 08:34:25 AM
Even more unbelievable how long this has gone on and how Chapman is handling it.

I agree 100%.What in the world is taking so long?  This has been going on for over 2 weeks and it makes me wonder if Chapman's "investigation" includes digging deeper into this and if more former players came forward.  I am aware of how much support there is for Coach T but there is always going to be a case of someone that wants to get in on the action.  This is unfair to all involved at the longer it goes on the more serious it seems, imho.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on April 13, 2013, 02:06:08 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on April 12, 2013, 06:41:09 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 11, 2013, 03:01:26 PM
Cubs fans choose Lee Elia's tirade.

X-rated version. Beware! Bad language ahead!
Lee Elia tirade (http://www.leeelia.com/lee_elia_br.mp3)

Rivals Tom Lasorda going off on Dick Williams and Kurt Bevacqua. X-rated version. Beware! More bad language ahead!
Tom Lasorda tirade (http://www.astroland.net/Blogmusic/Lasorda%20on%20Dick%20Williams%20and%20Kurt%20Bevacqua.mp3)

As for the Chapman players who ratted out their coach for cussing, I found a picture of them in their uniforms:

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.thegloss.com%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F04%2Fleague.jpg&hash=a1a870d12bb241911cf599a82812224e68a23ebe)

OxyBob

Ahh, Tommy Lasorda was a beauty!  The "Bevacqua" tirade makes me yearn for the old Jim Healy Show, the greatest sports radio show ever.  Some other Tommy classics:

His opinion of Dave Kingman's performance....
His meltdown in front of the media, and in particular TJ Simers, regarding the Dodger's poor plate discipline..."Garvey???!!!"
And my favorite I think, Tommy mic'd-up, pulling Doug Rau from Game 4 of the '77 World Series.

Luckily, all those great clips can still be found on the Jim  Healy tribute website.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on April 13, 2013, 02:55:39 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on April 13, 2013, 02:06:08 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on April 12, 2013, 06:41:09 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 11, 2013, 03:01:26 PM
Cubs fans choose Lee Elia's tirade.

X-rated version. Beware! Bad language ahead!
Lee Elia tirade (http://www.leeelia.com/lee_elia_br.mp3)

Rivals Tom Lasorda going off on Dick Williams and Kurt Bevacqua. X-rated version. Beware! More bad language ahead!
Tom Lasorda tirade (http://www.astroland.net/Blogmusic/Lasorda%20on%20Dick%20Williams%20and%20Kurt%20Bevacqua.mp3)

As for the Chapman players who ratted out their coach for cussing, I found a picture of them in their uniforms:

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.thegloss.com%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F04%2Fleague.jpg&hash=a1a870d12bb241911cf599a82812224e68a23ebe)

OxyBob

Ahh, Tommy Lasorda was a beauty!  The "Bevacqua" tirade makes me yearn for the old Jim Healy Show, the greatest sports radio show ever.  Some other Tommy classics:

His opinion of Dave Kingman's performance....
His meltdown in front of the media, and in particular TJ Simers, regarding the Dodger's poor plate discipline..."Garvey???!!!"
And my favorite I think, Tommy mic'd-up, pulling Doug Rau from Game 4 of the '77 World Series.

Luckily, all those great clips can still be found on the Jim  Healy tribute website.
Which is here:  http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/healy.swf
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wildcat11 on April 13, 2013, 04:26:26 PM
Linfield took game one yesterday from P-P, 6-2.  The 'Cats currently have a 14-1 lead in the 7th in the 1st of a doubleheader today. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on April 13, 2013, 05:04:31 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on April 13, 2013, 02:06:08 PM
The "Bevacqua" tirade makes me yearn for the old Jim Healy Show, the greatest sports radio show ever. 

For years I was a regular contributor to the Jim Healy Show. I first met Healy at Santa Anita. He was a big horse racing fan. Great handicapper. Much better than I was, for sure.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: playball on April 13, 2013, 06:31:58 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on April 13, 2013, 05:04:31 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on April 13, 2013, 02:06:08 PM
The "Bevacqua" tirade makes me yearn for the old Jim Healy Show, the greatest sports radio show ever. 

For years I was a regular contributor to the Jim Healy Show. I first met Healy at Santa Anita. He was a big horse racing fan. Great handicapper. Much better than I was, for sure.

OxyBob

OxyBob, you never cease to amaze!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on April 13, 2013, 10:38:55 PM
Quote from: playball on April 13, 2013, 06:31:58 PM
OxyBob, you never cease to amaze!

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/brilliant.wav

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 14, 2013, 05:01:37 PM
Only one weekend left in the SCIAC and it looks like the pairings for the round-robin have been posted on Oxy's baseball page.  Only a few  one of the seeds is set in stone (CLU at #1) at this point and the following is what the round-robin will look like...

April 24

1@8
2@9
3@7

April 27

9@4
2@4

7@5
3@5

8@6
1@6

April 28

5@1
9@1

6@2
7@2

4@3
8@3

April 30

5@9
6@7
4@8

I think this will be a pretty cool finish to the season and would assume that the conference tournament will played at the #1 seed after the round-robin.  This is what I think the final standings will look like.

1- CLU           21-3
2. P-P            17-7
3. Redlands- 15-9
4. Chapman  15-9
5. Oxy           14-10
6. ULV           13-11
7. Whittier     8-16
8. CMS           5-19
9. Cal Tech    0-24

Obviously things could change with just 1 game being different but this is what I see happening.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 19, 2013, 12:28:04 PM
Does anyone have an update on the Coach T situation at Chapman?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 19, 2013, 04:31:54 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 19, 2013, 12:28:04 PM
Does anyone have an update on the Coach T situation at Chapman?
No news yet. Over 632 people are now on the We Stand Behind Coach T facebook page.  Been going on almost 4 weeks now. Been on the local TV news shows on Fox and CBS. Also in the local newspaper OC Register. Amazing how a few can cause major problems for a great coach.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on April 19, 2013, 07:31:20 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 19, 2013, 04:31:54 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 19, 2013, 12:28:04 PM
Does anyone have an update on the Coach T situation at Chapman?
No news yet. Over 632 people are now on the We Stand Behind Coach T facebook page.  Been going on almost 4 weeks now. Been on the local TV news shows on Fox and CBS. Also in the local newspaper OC Register. Amazing how a few can cause major problems for a great coach.

From what I hear, the investigation is over. Most or all of the current players on the roster, along with a few alumni/former players, were interviewed by Chapman's human resources which explains why it took so long (finishing last week due to the alumni interviews that were held to accommodate their schedules). The fact that the investigation went beyond just the current program suggests that they were either trying to do a thorough job of it or they were looking to build the broadest case for the action that they plan to take.  I expect them to review their findings, discuss it with the boss (Doti) and then come up with a recommendation. 

No one is looking to sanitize T for his methods but as Crash aptly points out,  the consensus of a large part of the program (players and parents) is that the method works because what ultimately happens is that the player buys in and learns. I found it somewhat amazing that the local community (other than the baseball program) also chipped in with their support (parents and little kids who have gone to T's summer camps). I hope he is allowed to stay. If there must be a "punitive response" from Chapman, then  my take is that it ought to be something like him taking some remedial training/program (anger management) rather than termination. This would better address the real issue raised by the parent's complaint as firing him, in light of the actual "crime" that he is accused of,  just seems too extreme and vindictive. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 20, 2013, 11:49:41 AM
SCIAC Races gets closer for the top 4 spots with 6 games remaining.

http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2013/standings

Cal Lu and Pomona have the 1 & 2 spots wrapped up. The last 2 spots 3 & 4 for the SCIAC tourney has 4 teams right now with 9 losses. 6 games left for those spots.
Head to Head games could be the determining factor..
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 20, 2013, 12:42:38 PM
Looks like Chapman has the easier path as they are playing Whittier, Occidental vs P-P, and LaVern vs CLU...

I guess this is only for seeding for the round robin games, but it should help Chapman somewhat.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 22, 2013, 07:36:28 PM
What is the tie breaker if 2 teams are tied for 4th place after Pool Play?

Head to Head?

In Region Record?

D3 Record?

Overall Record?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 23, 2013, 08:55:41 AM
Pool Play games are set. Which teams will be the TOP 4 and go on to the SCIAC Conference tourney to determine the Pool A Bid

My Prediction
1 - Cal Lutheran
2 - Pomona-Pitzer
3 - Redlands
4 - Occidental

Chapman will be left out. 2nd consecutive seasons to miss the playoffs. Things have not gone well in 2012 or 2013 since the 2011 runner-up to the National Championship. Now with the head coach suspended the future may not be bright.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 25, 2013, 09:43:06 AM
Only 1 game in the loss column separate 4 teams for the last 2 spots for the SCIAC conference tourney for the Pool A bid. Pool play continues thru Sunday. Cal Lu and Pomona-Pitzer have wrapped up the top 2 spots.

Occidental, Redlands, Chapman and La Verne. All have a shot at one the last 2 spots.

Whittier, Claremont, Cal Tech are out but can play a real spoiler role with any wins against these teams. Yesterday Whittier beat Redlands 2-1
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasBB on April 25, 2013, 01:02:59 PM
Tereschuk on leave from Panthers

Any insights on this and what it means to the program.
Does not sound good.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 25, 2013, 04:52:30 PM
Not a lot of surprise in the first Regional Rankings: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3baseball/2013/04/25/first-ncaa-regional-rankings-for-2013/ (http://www.d3blogs.com/d3baseball/2013/04/25/first-ncaa-regional-rankings-for-2013/)

1. Linfield- Just dismantled PP and ULV in their recent trip to Southern California and is ranked first in both national polls.
2. Cal Lutheran- Have to be one of the hottest teams in the country right now- CLU has won 15 in a row overall, 18 in a row in SCIAC, and is averaging exactly 10 runs a game for the season.
3. Texas-Tyler- Haven't played any So Cal teams this year
4. Trinity- 2-1 vs Chapman in their only SCIAC matchup
5. George Fox- 3-3 vs SCIAC including 1-2 vs CLU, 1-0 vs both Redlands and ULV, and 0-1 vs Whittier
6. Texas Lutheran- No games against SCIAC opponents

Have to think the Hens are the easy number 7 team, with a legitimate argument to be made against both George Fox and Texas Lutheran.

Oxy is the only other SCIAC team that could be anywhere near the radar, but their non-conference west region games were against very poor teams. What they do have going for them is 2-0 against regionally ranked Ithaca and Bridgewater.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on April 26, 2013, 03:57:38 AM
OxyBob...
in rememberence of having spent the last 30 nights in the hospital
I leave you with RIGHT! as I'm released Friday.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 29, 2013, 01:08:18 AM
After a wild weekend in the SCIAC, and despite their being one day left of games, the seeding is set for the SCIAC tournament:
1. Cal Lutheran 24-4
2. Pomona-Pitzer 20-8
3. Redlands 17-11
4. Occidental 16-11*

*Oxy still has a game against CMS. Even if they win, which they probably will, Redlands has the tiebreaker over them for the 3rd seed

Defending SCIAC champs La Verne and perennial powerhouse Chapman are officially eliminated from postseason play. Both may have been down a bit from years past but still had solid teams, and I think their absence is a testament to the depth of the SCIAC this year.

Now from what I understand the tournament next weekend will be set up in a traditional 4 team, double elimination format. Cal Lu will play at home against Oxy, and P-P at home against Redlands. The winners play each other, and the losers play an elimination game. The remaining 1-1 teams will then play each other for a chance to beat the 2-0 team twice and take the automatic bid to the NCAA tournament. I'm also assuming, but would appreciate clarification, that the higher seed keeps home field throughout the tournament?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Richard Hamstocks on April 29, 2013, 02:46:29 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 29, 2013, 01:08:18 AM
I'm also assuming, but would appreciate clarification, that the higher seed keeps home field throughout the tournament?
It's my understanding that after Friday, all games are at Cal Lu.  That's a lot of (short schedule) travel otherwise. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 30, 2013, 11:42:18 AM
The longer the Coach T situation plays out at Chapman, the more it seems he will not be back. If that IS the case, where does Chapman turn for its next head coach? I have two possibilities:

1. Jeff Sears- former Chapman assistant and current head coach at Servite High School.

2. Mike Grahovac- Chapman alum and current head coach NAIA Concordia-Irvine. Won the NAIA national title 2-3 years ago and may look to make a jump back to NCAA as the NAIA's Golden State Athletic Conference appears to be dwindling in membership.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on April 30, 2013, 01:30:39 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 30, 2013, 11:42:18 AM
The longer the Coach T situation plays out at Chapman, the more it seems he will not be back.

I think you are right, but I wouldn't swear to it.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on April 30, 2013, 03:35:35 PM
According to a post on the Coach T facebook group, ~1220 Pacific Daylight Time tody:

QuoteBobby Evers > We Stand Behind Coach T!
   FYI Just got this text from Eddie:
   Tom officially resigned today. It is Tom's request that no one send any email, text or call chapman to voice their    unhappiness. That action will only hurt his chances to get a future job. Spread the word, no response at all
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on April 30, 2013, 03:40:27 PM
And now that post is gone.

EDIT:  VERY shortly after I posted this, the group was changed from "open" to "secret", and shortly after that I was apparently kicked out, or the group was removed altogether.  Oh, well.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 30, 2013, 04:08:15 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on April 29, 2013, 02:46:29 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 29, 2013, 01:08:18 AM
I'm also assuming, but would appreciate clarification, that the higher seed keeps home field throughout the tournament?
It's my understanding that after Friday, all games are at Cal Lu.  That's a lot of (short schedule) travel otherwise.

Turns out you're right, with one caveat. Sunday is the highest remaining seed left in the tournament- smart money says that means the game(s) will still be at Cal Lu, but it depends on who survives. Saturday definitely at Cal Lu (they will necessarily be the highest remaining seed since no teams will have been eliminated at that point).

Guesses for pitching matchups? You have to assume that everyone throws their ace on Friday- having to play from the loser's bracket makes things a lot more difficult. If so, that would mean:

Petersen (Cal Lu) vs. Hong? (Oxy)
Kling was Oxy's #1 for most of the year until they started Hong against PP last weekend. Kling is 2-3 (attribute that to having to face everyone else's best pitcher) with a 3.21 ERA, while Hong has a stellar 1.20 ERA with a 5-1 record. Hong started the year as their closer- he's also an everyday outfielder and leadoff hitter- before moving to the starting rotation. He's been the best so I assume he gets the ball. Petersen has been the Friday guy all year for Cal Lu, while batting .485- also playing outfield. Could be an interesting matchup. Both pitchers have faced their opponent once this year with the following lines:
Petersen 6.0IP 8H 3R 2ER 8K's (Petersen got the W in a 5-3 victory in which Kling started for Oxy)
Hong      1.0IP 1H 0R 2K's (Came in a 6-0 loss in the last game of the series, before he was moved to the rotation. This really makes me think they should throw Hong- CLU doesn't have much of a scouting report to go off of.)

Bruml (PP) vs. Smith (UofR)
Bruml has been PP's #1 all year, and particularly with the injuries to their previous #2 and #3 you have to assume he gets the ball. He's 7-3 with a 2.68 ERA overall. Smith has been Redlands' #1 all year and has the best numbers of their starters- 7-2 with a 3.96 ERA. However, he was roughed up a bit in his previous matchup with the Sagehens. Bruml faced Smith in that game and their respective lines were:
Bruml 6.0IP 9H 4R 3ER 1BB 3K's
Smith 5.1IP 9H 9R 6ER 2BB 4K's
I should note that the Sagehen bullpen imploded in that game. Bruml left after 6 with a 9-4 lead. The Bulldogs scored 9 runs in the next two innings to win 13-9.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 30, 2013, 04:23:17 PM
I should also note that Occidental plays today at CMS. With absolutely nothing on the line, playing a bad team, and with games this weekend, might be a chance to get someone some innings for their 7 pitchers with less than 10 innings on the year. Either have everyone go 1-2 innings, or give a couple guys some extended innings (3-4) as a bit of an audition for the weekend.

Chapman will finish their season at Cal Tech today, while La Verne closes against Whittier. If there's any silver lining for the seniors on that Chapman team after a year of turmoil and disappointment, they should be able to close their college careers with a win and hopefully a decent stat line. I don't know enough about the situation with Coach T to comment on specifics, but you have to feel for those seniors.

Finally, congrats to my buddy Erik Munzer (CF) on being named to d3baseball.com's team of the week. He had a tremendous close to the regular season, and is now hitting .394 on the year after a really tough start (1 for his first 18). Here's d3baseball's write up:
"Munzer helped Pomona-Pitzer go 3-1 in the SCIAC's pool play format for the final week of the regular season, locking up the 2 seed and home field for the first round of the playoffs. He batted .778 (14-for-18) with eight RBI and seven runs scored. Munzer celebrated his Senior Day by reaching base in his first 10 plate appearances in home games against La Verne and Whittier (8-for-8 with a walk and a HBP) before finally being retired in the bottom of the eighth."
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on April 30, 2013, 07:26:44 PM
CrashDavis sent this:  according to the Chapman student paper, Coach T has resigned:

http://www.thepantheronline.com/news/tereschuk-resigns-as-baseball-head-coach
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on May 01, 2013, 02:00:05 AM
Occidental pulls one out against CMS 9-8, uses 8 pitchers in the process- presumably to keep everyone fresh and available for the weekend.

La Verne beats Whittier 4-3 in extra innings to finish with a 16-12 record in SCIAC, 22-16 overall.

Chapman ends a very difficult season with a 15-1 win over Caltech in 7 innings. While it was their first losing record since Coach T came aboard, they did finish with a winning record in SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 01, 2013, 11:53:26 AM
I expect some upsets in games in the SCIAC conference tourney but in the end I expect Cal Lu to win. Their bats will score enough runs to beat everyone.  Cal Lu .365 BA is averaging over 9 runs per game.

http://www.clusports.com/stats/baseball/2013/teamcume.htm
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: NWBaseballFan10 on May 01, 2013, 01:14:27 PM
Just wanted to add my thoughts on the sad news coming out of Chapman that Coach Tereschuk has resigned. It's an unfortunate end for a Coach who has done so much for a program on and off the field. Every Chapman player I've ever spoke to has had nothing but praise for the man and I've yet to come across anyone whose felt otherwise. I think he deserves an enormous amount of praise for the success he was able to manage on the field and also for the ways he impacted the lives of so many individuals off of it. He will truly be missed within that University.

And on a side note, I just still haven't grasped this trend in our society and the NCAA that has forced so many great coaches away from their respected schools. There has been a huge shift in recent months surrounding college coaching and I'm sorry to say that I don't think it's over yet.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 01, 2013, 02:21:34 PM
Another case of PC culture gone awry IMO.

I for one want my son playing for a tough coach who teaches him lessons that he can not get elsewhere. I am thinking that he will survive being called "female genitalia"..... my goodness what has the world come to.  I am thinking there are a couple of programs in the SCAC who could use a coach like Coach T. He may well jump to Division 1 as it was not long ago there was an article in the OC paper as the best coach in So Cal regardless of level. USC would do itself well hiring him.

Best of luck to Coach T!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 01, 2013, 02:47:45 PM
Am I right to assume the "female genetalia" was not the P-word, it was actually the C-word??
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 01, 2013, 03:23:30 PM
Quote from: NWBaseballFan10 on May 01, 2013, 01:14:27 PM
Just wanted to add my thoughts on the sad news coming out of Chapman that Coach Tereschuk has resigned. It's an unfortunate end for a Coach who has done so much for a program on and off the field. Every Chapman player I've ever spoke to has had nothing but praise for the man and I've yet to come across anyone whose felt otherwise. I think he deserves an enormous amount of praise for the success he was able to manage on the field and also for the ways he impacted the lives of so many individuals off of it. He will truly be missed within that University.

And on a side note, I just still haven't grasped this trend in our society and the NCAA that has forced so many great coaches away from their respected schools. There has been a huge shift in recent months surrounding college coaching and I'm sorry to say that I don't think it's over yet.

Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 01, 2013, 02:21:34 PM
Another case of PC culture gone awry IMO.

I for one want my son playing for a tough coach who teaches him lessons that he can not get elsewhere. I am thinking that he will survive being called "female genitalia"..... my goodness what has the world come to.  I am thinking there are a couple of programs in the SCAC who could use a coach like Coach T. He may well jump to Division 1 as it was not long ago there was an article in the OC paper as the best coach in So Cal regardless of level. USC would do itself well hiring him.

Best of luck to Coach T!
Well said.  I watched up close the outstanding qualities of this coach since 2006 and the real loss is to the remaining players for Chapman and what they will miss and learn. I am glad for those players who had a chance to experience the opportunity to play for a man who loves the game, has fire and passion for the game and for his players on and off the field. Only the few who did not play and could not endure a coach that demands and expects the best from his players and pushes his players to achieve things they could not achieve in other programs. It is a very sad reflection on our PC society today and how a few can ruin so much for the majority these days. I am sure Coach T will survive and thrive in another program soon. He won championships at the high school level and the college level. Watch for him to do the same soon somewhere else. I do not expect Chapman to be winning any SCIAC championships in baseball anytime soon.

Any D1 program in the country that wants to win and win now would be thrilled to give him the opportunity to coach for him.
He is tough and demanding. So was Lombardi, so is Garrido at Texas and so are other winners in all walks of life.

Chapman may have done him a favor by facilitating this change by putting an outstanding coach out on the open market. Let the bidding begin.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on May 01, 2013, 03:41:37 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on April 30, 2013, 07:26:44 PM
CrashDavis sent this:  according to the Chapman student paper, Coach T has resigned

QuoteMaya Omar, Chapman's equal opportunity officer and lead investigator on Tereschuk's allegations, declined to comment on the investigation.

Ms. Omar upon hearing about Coach Tereschuk's naughty off-color language:

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.addictinginfo.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F11%2FClutching-Pearls.jpg&hash=47ccad1a73fa94bd006f06512fc678fab40b484f)

She was unable to comment because she got the vapors and collapsed onto her fainting couch.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 01, 2013, 03:45:58 PM
ROFLMAO Made my day Oxybob!

Wait can I post that......
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: infielddad on May 01, 2013, 04:34:44 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on May 01, 2013, 03:23:30 PM
Quote from: NWBaseballFan10 on May 01, 2013, 01:14:27 PM
Just wanted to add my thoughts on the sad news coming out of Chapman that Coach Tereschuk has resigned. It's an unfortunate end for a Coach who has done so much for a program on and off the field. Every Chapman player I've ever spoke to has had nothing but praise for the man and I've yet to come across anyone whose felt otherwise. I think he deserves an enormous amount of praise for the success he was able to manage on the field and also for the ways he impacted the lives of so many individuals off of it. He will truly be missed within that University.

And on a side note, I just still haven't grasped this trend in our society and the NCAA that has forced so many great coaches away from their respected schools. There has been a huge shift in recent months surrounding college coaching and I'm sorry to say that I don't think it's over yet.

Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 01, 2013, 02:21:34 PM
Another case of PC culture gone awry IMO.

I for one want my son playing for a tough coach who teaches him lessons that he can not get elsewhere. I am thinking that he will survive being called "female genitalia"..... my goodness what has the world come to.  I am thinking there are a couple of programs in the SCAC who could use a coach like Coach T. He may well jump to Division 1 as it was not long ago there was an article in the OC paper as the best coach in So Cal regardless of level. USC would do itself well hiring him.

Best of luck to Coach T!
Well said.  I watched up close the outstanding qualities of this coach since 2006 and the real loss is to the remaining players for Chapman and what they will miss and learn. I am glad for those players who had a chance to experience the opportunity to play for a man who loves the game, has fire and passion for the game and for his players on and off the field. Only the few who did not play and could not endure a coach that demands and expects the best from his players and pushes his players to achieve things they could not achieve in other programs. It is a very sad reflection on our PC society today and how a few can ruin so much for the majority these days. I am sure Coach T will survive and thrive in another program soon. He won championships at the high school level and the college level. Watch for him to do the same soon somewhere else. I do not expect Chapman to be winning any SCIAC championships in baseball anytime soon.

Any D1 program in the country that wants to win and win now would be thrilled to give him the opportunity to coach for him.
He is tough and demanding. So was Lombardi, so is Garrido at Texas and so are other winners in all walks of life.

Chapman may have done him a favor by facilitating this change by putting an outstanding coach out on the open market. Let the bidding begin.

Crash,  From the outside appearance, one could reasonably construct the perspective that the Coach was provided an option to resign, with the other option being termination.  From that perspective, I guess one could consider this a favor.
From most other perspectives, I am not sure about concluding "any" DI program would be thrilled or that Coach T is in a very strong position at the DI level.
Wherever he goes, this issue follows, to some extent and the extent may well vary from school to school.  I don't know if he has family, but uprooting his family might also be a requirement. There just are not many DI spots which open each year. 
For those that do open, there can be 500 to 1,000 applicants and many of those are surprising because they are head coaches with solid backgrounds looking to move.  The other part is AD's at the DI level don't seem to want to tolerate too much risk so it can be quite a challenge for very successful d3 coaches to get interviews, let alone get to the finalists and be in demand/command of the situation.  As one illustration, Coach T, in looking for a DI head coaching position, might well be competing with someone such as his predecessor at Chapman, Rex Peters.  Coach Peters is a fabulous coach who got Davis to a Regional, built Chapman to a power, and did a masterful job managing and coaching the UCLA offense to the CWS in 2012. That is one illustration but it reflects the quality of potential applicants for every head coaching job which opens at the DI level each year, and usually there are less than 20.
From everything I have read, what happened in the last 30 days or so is not a reflection of Coach T's ability in baseball.  I truly hope he rebounds from this and captures a new position with minimum disruption.  If he wants to move to the DI level, my guess is he would need to do so as an assistant, at least initially.  He also might need to relocate, which is a completely different challenge depending on family, etc. I would love for your version to be the one which happens with Coach T but everything I am learning about the coaching opportunities at the DI level makes me come down with a much more cautious perspective.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 01, 2013, 04:57:40 PM
I agree with you infielddad, Coach Peters is a perfect model for Coach T to emulate as far as a career path. Peters in effect stepped back from a D1 head coach position (that had dubious AD support) to take an assistant position at a more visible program. I could well see Coach T going this route and you are correct it may be his only path at the D1 level.... or possibly getting an opportunity at a smaller D1 fringe program or even another DIII program that wants to make a step up.  Certainly there are going to be questions about what happened at Chapman, which he will have to answer. I do wish him the best in the future.

As far as the baseball program at Chapman I am sure there are some recruits rethinking things, even if it is a DIII program. Most at this level pick a school and a baseball program with significant emphasis on the school, which Chapman is
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 01, 2013, 05:34:38 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 01, 2013, 04:57:40 PM
I agree with you infielddad, Coach Peters is a perfect model for Coach T to emulate as far as a career path. Peters in effect stepped back from a D1 head coach position (that had dubious AD support) to take an assistant position at a more visible program. I could well see Coach T going this route and you are correct it may be his only path at the D1 level.... or possibly getting an opportunity at a smaller D1 fringe program or even another DIII program that wants to make a step up.  Certainly there are going to be questions about what happened at Chapman, which he will have to answer. I do wish him the best in the future.

As far as the baseball program at Chapman I am sure there are some recruits rethinking things, even if it is a DIII program. Most at this level pick a school and a baseball program with significant emphasis on the school, which Chapman is
Excellent comments. In today's  world...Too much media attention may make it more difficult for colleges to make decisions.

I know nothing about any details about Chapman today since I am not really too close to the program these days.

But I know in the past many players came to Chapman based upon the Coach, the baseball program, the school and the location as a complete package. We got players who could have been backup players on the D1/D2 level and some transfers that started in D1/D2 as starters. So school alone will not draw good/great baseball players.

If that was the true other great schools would have great baseball programs but they don't. The challenge with Chapman is the costs have gone up dramatically in the past 4 years at the school and even with financial aid it becomes a real challenge to pay for 4 years at Chapman and to match that up with good/great baseball players. Many desire to go but just can't pull off the financials to make it work.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on May 01, 2013, 06:54:00 PM
The reality is that every college/university in the SCIAC and NWC is a private institution, and all are expensive at full boat tuition, so all schools, including Chapman, are in more-or-less the same situation.  Additionally, some schools are extremely difficult/competitive to obtain merit scholarship monies, as every accepted applicant is a high achiever academically, thus you'll need an extremely high GPA, SAT, and those schools lean more towards meeting demonstrated financial need.  A quick perusal of a sampling of 2013 tuition/room/board costs for SCIAC/NWC schools:

$48,000 - Redlands
$44,000 - Linfield
$46,000 - Chapman
$54,000 - Whitman
$59,000 - Occidental
$46,000 - Whitworth

Chapman is at no disadvantage compared to any other school in the two conferences, relative to the challenges associated with recruiting athletes/versus cost of the education.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 01, 2013, 07:17:49 PM
Apparently Coach T's monologue was not favorably received.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: utilitycat17 on May 01, 2013, 10:03:41 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 01, 2013, 07:17:49 PM
Apparently Coach T's monologue was not favorably received.

What monologue?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on May 01, 2013, 11:52:17 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on May 01, 2013, 06:54:00 PM
The reality is that every college/university in the SCIAC and NWC is a private institution, and all are expensive at full boat tuition, so all schools, including Chapman, are in more-or-less the same situation.  Additionally, some schools are extremely difficult/competitive to obtain merit scholarship monies, as every accepted applicant is a high achiever academically, thus you'll need an extremely high GPA, SAT, and those schools lean more towards meeting demonstrated financial need.  A quick perusal of a sampling of 2013 tuition/room/board costs for SCIAC/NWC schools:

$48,000 - Redlands
$44,000 - Linfield
$46,000 - Chapman
$54,000 - Whitman
$59,000 - Occidental
$46,000 - Whitworth

Chapman is at no disadvantage compared to any other school in the two conferences, relative to the challenges associated with recruiting athletes/versus cost of the education.

I'll add that Pomona College and Pitzer College are each between 57,000-58,000/year. Pomona has an acceptance rate of about 14% and Pitzer's is around 24%. Neither give much wiggle room for athletes, and so those two factors alone eliminate a large universe of potential ballplayers (but does help them lure the talented smart kids). CMC (the only school in the CMS group that contributes to the baseball team) has roughly the same tuition as both Pomona and Pitzer, with an admissions rate closer to Pomona's. And let's not even go to Cal Tech...

In terms of SCIAC schools, Chapman's main recruiting competition would be with La Verne, Redlands and Cal Lutheran (and Whittier, to a lesser extent I suppose). All four are solid academic institutions, but have more flexibility in admissions:
La Verne       $46,000 40% admit rate
Redlands       $48,000 65% admit rate
Cal Lutheran $45,000 44% admit rate
Chapman      $46,000 45% admit rate

One of the big factors for at least a few of these schools is room and board. I know La Verne and Redlands have a relatively large percentage of commuter students who can save money on room and board by living at home. Not sure about Chapman or Cal Lutheran. Regardless, the four schools occupy relatively different areas or Southern California (La Verne and Redlands being closer to each other, and Chapman and Cal Lu a little more isolated) and geography is a large factor in recruiting.  Chapman has, by my very rough and unverified count, 13 guys from the OC. Cal Lutheran has about the same from the greater Thousand Oaks area and La Verne a similar amount from the San Gabriel Valley/Inland Empire. Redlands players are a little more spread out, with about 6 from the Inland Empire.

I'm not sure how much they lose in recruiting compared to the other SCIAC schools. They seem to have had a stranglehold on recruiting in the OC, at least of the guys who didn't go D1 or D2. So they may still be able to recruit good D3 players from an area with an abundant amount of talent. However, without Coach T's presence in the program they may start losing out on the guys who may be fringe players at a smaller D1 or a D2 as Crash pointed out. One of their best players a few years ago, Mike Roth, transferred from UC Riverside where he was a starter to play for Coach T. Obviously I don't know his whole story, but you gotta imagine those kinds of things aren't gonna happen as much without Tereschuk leading the program. And one of the key parts of building such an incredible program over there was bringing in top rate talent. Yes, he developed players pretty damn well but there's no denying that guys like Roth, Ruah, Kitchens, Yacko, et al were going to be studs wherever they went. Can they still pull those guys without Coach T? They'll have to shoot pretty high to find someone who will be able to recruit like that. And that's without even considering the possibility that some current players transfer.

It's probably going to be a tough road for Chapman for the next few years.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on May 02, 2013, 01:30:50 AM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on May 01, 2013, 11:52:17 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on May 01, 2013, 06:54:00 PM
The reality is that every college/university in the SCIAC and NWC is a private institution, and all are expensive at full boat tuition, so all schools, including Chapman, are in more-or-less the same situation.  Additionally, some schools are extremely difficult/competitive to obtain merit scholarship monies, as every accepted applicant is a high achiever academically, thus you'll need an extremely high GPA, SAT, and those schools lean more towards meeting demonstrated financial need.  A quick perusal of a sampling of 2013 tuition/room/board costs for SCIAC/NWC schools:

$48,000 - Redlands
$44,000 - Linfield
$46,000 - Chapman
$54,000 - Whitman
$59,000 - Occidental
$46,000 - Whitworth

Chapman is at no disadvantage compared to any other school in the two conferences, relative to the challenges associated with recruiting athletes/versus cost of the education.

I'll add that Pomona College and Pitzer College are each between 57,000-58,000/year. Pomona has an acceptance rate of about 14% and Pitzer's is around 24%. Neither give much wiggle room for athletes, and so those two factors alone eliminate a large universe of potential ballplayers (but does help them lure the talented smart kids). CMC (the only school in the CMS group that contributes to the baseball team) has roughly the same tuition as both Pomona and Pitzer, with an admissions rate closer to Pomona's. And let's not even go to Cal Tech...

In terms of SCIAC schools, Chapman's main recruiting competition would be with La Verne, Redlands and Cal Lutheran (and Whittier, to a lesser extent I suppose). All four are solid academic institutions, but have more flexibility in admissions:
La Verne       $46,000 40% admit rate
Redlands       $48,000 65% admit rate
Cal Lutheran $45,000 44% admit rate
Chapman      $46,000 45% admit rate

One of the big factors for at least a few of these schools is room and board. I know La Verne and Redlands have a relatively large percentage of commuter students who can save money on room and board by living at home. Not sure about Chapman or Cal Lutheran. Regardless, the four schools occupy relatively different areas or Southern California (La Verne and Redlands being closer to each other, and Chapman and Cal Lu a little more isolated) and geography is a large factor in recruiting.  Chapman has, by my very rough and unverified count, 13 guys from the OC. Cal Lutheran has about the same from the greater Thousand Oaks area and La Verne a similar amount from the San Gabriel Valley/Inland Empire. Redlands players are a little more spread out, with about 6 from the Inland Empire.

I'm not sure how much they lose in recruiting compared to the other SCIAC schools. They seem to have had a stranglehold on recruiting in the OC, at least of the guys who didn't go D1 or D2. So they may still be able to recruit good D3 players from an area with an abundant amount of talent. However, without Coach T's presence in the program they may start losing out on the guys who may be fringe players at a smaller D1 or a D2 as Crash pointed out. One of their best players a few years ago, Mike Roth, transferred from UC Riverside where he was a starter to play for Coach T. Obviously I don't know his whole story, but you gotta imagine those kinds of things aren't gonna happen as much without Tereschuk leading the program. And one of the key parts of building such an incredible program over there was bringing in top rate talent. Yes, he developed players pretty damn well but there's no denying that guys like Roth, Ruah, Kitchens, Yacko, et al were going to be studs wherever they went. Can they still pull those guys without Coach T? They'll have to shoot pretty high to find someone who will be able to recruit like that. And that's without even considering the possibility that some current players transfer.

It's probably going to be a tough road for Chapman for the next few years.

Yes. His leaving probably will have an impact on the next few year's recruiting classes. Though the oddity for next year is that they will have the equivalent of a "good recruiting class" with the return of the 3 injured pitchers who sat out 2013 (assuming they all come back healthy and throwing in the 90's like they were before TJ surgery). Rehab is on schedule for all 3 and McGee might try to pitch during the fall. 2 guys from this year's staff had good years (Watson and Riddle) and Chapman may actually have a deeper staff.  The bigger concern for the pitchers is what happens to Eddie, the pitching coach. Chapman policy might prevent Eddie from being the permanent head coach and if he is gone (it would be no surprise if he followed T to yet another program), then what?  I'm a little biased but Eddie who pitched in the minors and who I believe has been with T since their Villa Park HS Championship days when Mark Trumbo played at VP,  was a major reason for Chapman's phenomenal success.  All of the Panther pitching studs in the last decade were recruited by Eddie and most had their mechanic's tweaked by him (like Rauh). He called their pitches and T pretty much gave him free rein to handle the staff during a game. More importantly, many were victims of his off beat sense of humor as he knew how to handle the fragile psyches of his pitchers. If T was the stern father figure pushing his pitchers to greater heights, Eddie was the friendly uncle giving them the technical knowledge to set up an opposing hitter for failure.  AS for T, I'm sorry to see him go. He made an impact on my son's life for the better and that was good enough for me.   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 02, 2013, 12:21:30 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on May 01, 2013, 11:52:17 PM
Yes, he developed players pretty damn well

Watch your language. :-X :o
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 02, 2013, 07:51:42 PM
Are the fires in the CLU area going to have an effect on the schedule?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on May 02, 2013, 08:36:43 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on May 02, 2013, 07:51:42 PM
Are the fires in the CLU area going to have an effect on the schedule?

It shouldn't. The fire is in Camarillo burning west towards the ocean, not southeast towards Thousand Oaks.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 02, 2013, 09:12:41 PM
Actually, my friends in Newbury Park had pictures showing it was very near, and the national news said "a university" was threatened.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 02, 2013, 09:12:56 PM
I drove by the area today, and it had no impact, just as noted it was further west. I guess the wind could shift back onshore and maybe create some smoke, but that would put the fire out anyway. The University is Cal State Channel Islands and it is definitely impacted.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 02, 2013, 09:15:13 PM
Thanks.  I forgot about Channel Islands.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 02, 2013, 11:14:26 PM
Does anyone see Cal Lu getting upset in the SCIAC Tourney?

Which team has the best chance to beat Cal Lu and take the Pool A bid?
A Cal Lu loss to Pomona and to Occidental could open the door for someone else. Not likely but possible.

I see Redlands being 2 and BBQ 1st.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 03, 2013, 11:17:56 AM
Don't see it happening Crash, but it is baseball and you never know. A pitcher get's hot and who knows. CLU's offensive looks pretty good so they will likely outlast anyone in the SCIAC, plus they have decent pitching.

There is some concern this morning that the wind is going to switch back onshore which could blow smoke back into the Thousand Oaks area, which might create some issues at CLU. Not likely but possible. I think that CLU needs to have a good showing in the tournament to lock up the number 2 seed in the Regionals. Not sure if P-P can move into one top 6 spots in the West with a strong showing. (short of winning the tournament) I guess this would be a key story line for the tournament, same with the ASC, can TLU solidify their spot at number 6?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on May 03, 2013, 01:26:32 PM
One of the comments on the article in the Chapman newspaper about the Tereschuk debacle:

Quote
MARK TRUMBO    May 2, 2013 at 10:29 am
Coach T, you were honeslty the best coach I have ever played for in my entire life. This is a 100% true statement, if it was not for you I would not be where I was today. The whole entire Angels organization now knows about this crazy situation and everyone here is supporting you to the fullest. I know you will have no problem finding a new home, and trust me, more success to come. Im gunna definintely be paying you a visit with some of my teamates to talk about al the good old days and help get you back on track. Ur an amazing man coach. See you soon.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on May 03, 2013, 03:34:15 PM
Maybe the Angels need to hire Coach T!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 03, 2013, 04:39:52 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on May 03, 2013, 03:34:15 PM
Maybe the Angels need to hire Coach T!!

They way the Angels are playing they need someone in there to kick some &&&&.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 03, 2013, 06:03:29 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on May 03, 2013, 03:34:15 PM
Maybe the Angels need to hire Coach T!!
Can he pitch? ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 03, 2013, 06:56:00 PM
Another fire at the 134 and 2.  That will affect the Oxy ride home.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 03, 2013, 08:56:08 PM
Cal Lu 4 Occidental 3 Final  - Oxy had bases loaded in the 9th but could not score
Redlands 14 Pomona-Pitzer 8 Final - Slugfest Combined 22 runs 33 hits 7 errors 6 pitchers

9 AM PT Occidental vs Pomona-Pitzer @ Cal Lu
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on May 04, 2013, 06:11:51 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on May 03, 2013, 08:56:08 PM
Cal Lu 4 Occidental 3 Final  - Oxy had bases loaded in the 9th but could not score

Eyewitness report from Thousand Oaks:

Very entertaining game. Oxy had plenty of chances, but sloppy play did in the Tigers.

In the 2nd inning, CLU had runners at second and third with one out. Mike Vinyard hit a fly to right, but Alec Strain either misplayed it or lost it in the sun and it dropped in for a courtesy double. One run scored. Spencer DuBois then singled for another run. 2-0 CLU.

In the 5th, Oxy scored to make it 2-1, but in the bottom of the 5th, Jake Petersen doubled into the right field corner and went to third on a muff by Strain. Petersen scored an out later on a sac fly by Trevor Coons. 3-1 CLU.

In the 6th, Oxy tied it up on RBI singles by Chris Caldwell and A.J. Libunao. The Tigers left runners at second and third.

In the bottom of the 8th, CLU had runners at first and second with one out. DuBois grounded to Libunao, who stepped on third for out 2, but his throw to first sailed high. As Oxy chased down the ball, Vinyard, the runner at first, collided with Libunao as he tried to round third. The initial call was no interference, but after a lengthy discussion between the umps, it was ruled interference and Vinyard scored the go-ahead run. 4-3 CLU.

In the 9th, with one out, Scott Hong singled to left and went to second on a boot by Ramsey Abushahla. The next batter Logan Allen grounded to short. Hong, with the ball hit in front of him, tried to go to third, and was easily out. That was a very costly mistake because Jonathan Brooks immediately singled to left; Allen advanced to third. Pedro Adalpe was HBP to load the bases, but Victor Munoz struck out to end the game.

Oxy will now have to go the hard way through the losers bracket.

Note to some Oxy fans: Loudly and angrily arguing balls and strikes from the stands and yelling lame stuff like "Respect the game!" and "Why don't you just give them the game!?" at the umpires sounds real dumb. The umps don't care who wins. Really.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just_Some_Guy on May 04, 2013, 11:26:34 AM
No live stats for the Oxy vs. Pomona game or is the Internet just smarter than me this morning?

JSG
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on May 04, 2013, 11:42:24 AM
JSG,
I would try the CLU website directly around game time. They have a section on the tourney, and I would not be surprised if they had video and/or live stats. They are usually pretty good about these items. I don't know for sure, but it is worth a try. Good Luck!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 04, 2013, 02:40:26 PM
I'm watching it now.  Top of the 9th.  2-2.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on May 04, 2013, 03:11:57 PM
Final has PP advancing 5-2. Good job by CLU with cameras and audio.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on May 04, 2013, 04:18:39 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on May 04, 2013, 02:40:26 PM
I'm watching it now.  Top of the 9th.  2-2.

Pomona 5, Oxy 2

Oxy 15 LOB, 0-for-17 RISP. Ouch.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 04, 2013, 06:04:17 PM
Quote from: dahlby on May 04, 2013, 03:11:57 PM
Final has PP advancing 5-2. Good job by CLU with cameras and audio.
Two cameras and replay.  It doesn't get much better in D3.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 04, 2013, 09:43:05 PM
I caught a couple of innings and agree with Fox probably the best DIII broadcast I have seen at the DIII level.  Great stuff.
Actually CLU's field is one of the best DIII you will find also with covered stands etc.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 05, 2013, 04:22:08 PM
Just got back to the house and checked, CLU up 10-4 bottom of the 7th. Looks like they are in control.

Actually three cameras on the Webcast. Very impressive. I have no idea why some programs do not have at least one camera and a webcast. Very good commentary also.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 05, 2013, 09:58:52 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 05, 2013, 04:22:08 PM
Just got back to the house and checked, CLU up 10-4 bottom of the 7th. Looks like they are in control.

Actually three cameras on the Webcast. Very impressive. I have no idea why some programs do not have at least one camera and a webcast. Very good commentary also.
And it was FREE.  Good for those of us who only can watch part of a game.
All the teams should do this for all their sports.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on May 06, 2013, 11:08:29 AM
Comments regarding CLU's great coverage of the SCIAC baseball playoffs can be sent to Tracy Maple.
email at          tmaple@clunet.edu       I am sure that the comments will be appreciated.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on May 06, 2013, 02:03:17 PM
Not a whole lot of surprise that CLU wins the tournament in the minimum three games. They were the best team in the SCIAC this year. Also a huge advantage going against a PP team that needed to improvise in its pitching, while CLU was able to throw a guy who'd been one of their best starters all year (don't get me wrong- they earned that advantage!).

If you think about it, this weekend was easier on the CLU staff than a regular season playoff series would have been. They were able to spread three games worth of pitching over three days instead of two. This allowed Roth to make appearance in all three games. And the success of their starters combined by the success of their hitters allowed the Kingsmen to use just 5 pitchers in three games (Morgan Garcia-Grisham gets 2.0 innings yesterday against PP to go with the three starters and Roth).

CLU's impressive showing is both a great sign and a slightly troubling one. Their offense took care of business, their starting pitchers were solid, and Roth is unreal. But what will happen to them in a regional where they will need to play a minimum of four games? Garcia-Grisham and Burden are the only two other guys who have starts on the year. Burden appears to have been shelled in both of his and has a total of 6.2 IP all season. Garcia-Grisham has very good numbers, but this weekend shows that he's probably their go to reliever in a situation where it's too early to bring in Roth or if Roth needs any rest. Mitchell Shields has great numbers in his ten innings, but only threw 4.2 in SCIAC, is he injured? Matt Johnston is the only other guy with 10+ innings, but has an ERA over 8.

I guess they can hope that by Saturday their game one starter (Petersen I assume) can go out there for a few innings? It will also help immensely if their starters can go the distance, or close to it in the early games. I have a feeling that provided CLU makes it deep in the regionals, they will be playing some very high scoring games at the end. And while the pitching issues certainly aren't unique to them- everyone has to stretch their staff at regionals- having three very good starters and one incredible reliever has prevented them from developing much out of the pen. It also got them the SCIAC championship, #2 seed in the regional, and a ranking in the top 15 in the country so I suppose that counts for something :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on May 06, 2013, 05:31:12 PM
From the Ventura County Star:

Cal Lutheran uses timely hitting and clutch pitching to secure automatic berth in the NCAA Division II playoffs
http://www.vcstar.com/news/2013/may/05/cal-lutheran-uses-timely-hitting-and-clutch-to

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on May 11, 2013, 01:53:57 PM
Well there are about 4 other threads debating PP-Fox-TLU, so I'll leave that conversation over there.

I would like to congratulate all the members of the SCIAC first and second teams, SCIAC MVP (and newcomer of the year) Jake Petersen-CLU, and Pitcher of the Year Aaron Roth-CLU:
http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2012-13/releases/all_sciac (http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2012-13/releases/all_sciac)

And special congrats to the Hens represented. Gentili and Munzer finish their illustrious careers as repeat offenders on the first team. This is Gentili's second selection in a row, after hitting .389 w/ 5 HR's, 37 RBI. Munzer has been all SCIAC all four years, and this is his second time on the first team after hitting .405 in conference and .384 overall (he's also been first team all-SCIAC in Soccer for at least the last two years, maybe the last 3 or 4). Sophomore ace and first baseman Jake Bruml gets a spot on the first team as well. Freshman Simon Rosenbaum gets a nod on the second team despite missing almost half the year. He had a spectacular freshman year at the plate and on the mound. Everyone is hoping he recovers quickly from his injuries and will be ready to contribute again next season.

http://www.pe.pomona.edu/sports/bsb/2012-13/releases/201305104dgsi7 (http://www.pe.pomona.edu/sports/bsb/2012-13/releases/201305104dgsi7)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on May 14, 2013, 10:58:44 AM
Article about CLU in the Ventura County Star:

CLU baseball team learns NCAA opponent
http://www.vcstar.com/news/2013/may/13/clu-baseball-team-learns-ncaa-opponent

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on May 15, 2013, 05:25:58 PM
Inland Valley Daily Bulletin write-up on PP's at-large bid:
http://www.dailybulletin.com/sports/ci_23236917/daily-bulletin-college-five-pomona-pitzer-rewarded-solid (http://www.dailybulletin.com/sports/ci_23236917/daily-bulletin-college-five-pomona-pitzer-rewarded-solid)

Not that there was any doubt, but confirmation that Bruml is starting game one (in just about 2.5 hours!). Coach P points out that the two Saturday wins in the SCIAC tournament were important. I think it's pretty clear that if the Hens lose either game and don't get to Sunday, they probably aren't in this regional.

At the moment, Cal Lu is tied with Trinity 0-0 after 4 and a half. Trinity loaded the bases with 1 out in the third but couldn't get anyone home. Petersen has thrown 58 pitches (by my count) through 5 innings. Not sure where Lucero's pitch count is at, but he's only scattered three hits.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on May 15, 2013, 07:15:32 PM
Cal Lu loses their first game 1-0 against Trinity

The run was unearned, as Woodruff hits a double that is misplayed in left field. An additional error on the shortstop allows him to come all the way around to score.

Petersen threw 8.1 very good innings, but Trinity's ace Lucero went the distance for the shutout. Walked none and retired the last 9 Kingsmen he faced.

Cal Lutheran will face Texas Lutheran tomorrow in an elimination game at 10am PST. Texas Lutheran lost a close one to Linfield 2-0.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on May 16, 2013, 11:36:58 AM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on May 15, 2013, 07:15:32 PM
Cal Lu loses their first game 1-0 against Trinity

Local coverage in the Ventura County Star:

Errors prove costly for CLU in Division III playoff opener
http://www.vcstar.com/news/2013/may/15/errors-prove-costly-for-clu-in-division-iii

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on May 16, 2013, 10:24:55 PM
Tough out for the Hens...would love to see a breakthrough soon and to advance beyond the regionals.

Got me to thinking what the best Pomona-Pitzer team has been over the last decade or so.  2002/2003 with Jose Cortez and co, or 2010 with Drew Hedman/David Colvin, etc?

And what the all-time team would be

C:  Jose Cortez
IF:  Drew Hedman
IF:  James Kang
IF:  Emiliano Escandon
IF: Nick Frederick
IF: Brandon Huerta
OF: Zach Mandelblatt
OF: Jase Turner
OF: Eric Munzer
OF: Mike Witzansky
P: David Colvin
P: Adam Gardner
P: Spike Einsiedler
DH: Jarod Kula

Thoughts?



Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on May 18, 2013, 12:10:06 PM
Quote from: pomonaalum on May 16, 2013, 10:24:55 PM
Tough out for the Hens...would love to see a breakthrough soon and to advance beyond the regionals.

Got me to thinking what the best Pomona-Pitzer team has been over the last decade or so.  2002/2003 with Jose Cortez and co, or 2010 with Drew Hedman/David Colvin, etc?

And what the all-time team would be

C:  Jose Cortez
IF:  Drew Hedman
IF:  James Kang
IF:  Emiliano Escandon
IF: Nick Frederick
IF: Brandon Huerta
OF: Zach Mandelblatt
OF: Jase Turner
OF: Eric Munzer
OF: Mike Witzansky
P: David Colvin
P: Adam Gardner
P: Spike Einsiedler
DH: Jarod Kula

Thoughts?

Dear god that lineup would have been unreal. There are a couple guys I didn't really get to see play, and unfortunately stats for them aren't readily available so I'll take your word for it. But I don't think anyone can argue with inclusion of any of those guys.

I think I'd throw Gentili in their for consideration as an outfielder... I won't let you make me pick between he and Munzer because they're both great. Munzer probably better defensively, Gentili has a little more power. Both have been starting and all-conference guys since they were freshmen.

Might add Mike Silva as a backup catcher. Not sure how Josie was defensively, but you always gotta have an extra backstop anyway. And Silva's last year as a Hen he hit .372 with 9 bombs. James Campbell could be considered as well as a backup infielder. He put up pretty decent numbers his first three years and then last year as a senior hit .397 with 11 bombs. 11 homeruns from a righty in that park, after the bat change is pretty ridiculous. Clay Leonard might be in the conversation, particularly if you're looking for some extra biceps. And Kevin Hickey has to be on here somewhere too if this is truly an all time team.

And then for pitching, Kang can double as a closer. Mandleblatt was a starter all four years I believe.  Bruml probably gets put on that team by the end of his career as a dual guy. If this year was any indication of things to come, a healthy Rosenbaum finds his way on as a dual guy as well.

Man, this is fun. I'll leave your question re: Cortez/Turner team vs Hedman/Colvin team, but I think if it's one game the Colvin team gets the edge.

Anybody else wanna throw out some other all time (or at least memorable past) teams? Thinking about this for Chapman makes me shiver. Cal Lu has had some absolute studs too. La Verne's team would be good, and gritty...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on May 18, 2013, 04:43:33 PM
Escandon was a middle infielder who got drafted in the mid 90s, before the program got good.  Made it as high as AAA for a full season.   Think that Fullerton true toget him to transfer there, back in te Augie Garrido days, but he didn't go.

Jarod Kula was probably 96 or 97, big guy who came in as a power pitcher.  Legend is that he decided he wanted to take BP one day and and started hitting shots over the 345 sign, and became mostly a hitter.  "Kula bombs", they were called.

Witzansky and Kevin Hickey were the same class, '99, and both really good players.  Tough call between the two.  Hickey had the advantage at home of hitting left handed with the short porch, but a great swing and great hitter.

Agree that Bruml and Rosenbaum could be in the conversation by the time they are done.  Enjoying being able to watch via video once in a while, as we live on the other side of the country.

Great to see the program in such good shape these days. 

Speaking of Cal Lu, yeah, they'd have a great team even if limited to post scholarship days.   They had a kid, Anthony Olden, I think was his name, who hit a ball against us that probably lande somewhere in the Sontag theater, if it ever did land.   They also had a pitcher back then, Bell, who was low 90s and a big presence on the mound.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on May 18, 2013, 08:20:15 PM
OK I just found stats going back to '99 on ncaa.com... And there are few more guys I had forgotten about/didn't realize how good they were.
Most glaring omission:
Luke Smude- .448 BA as freshman then .390, .395, .396. I think I may even recall Coach P saying he's the all time leader in hits for the Hens. 42+ RBI's every year, 19 career HRs... I know he was a first baseman but maybe we can stick him at third on our make believe team.
Rob Ruiz and Matt Rager had some pretty impressive stats too. Thoughts on them? Tough with Huerta, Kang and Escandon I suppose.

Also, I knew that our offense was always pretty damn good and our pitching... struggled to keep up. But looking through the stat books really highlights that. I know alumni field is a hitter's park but it's really tough to find pitchers with good stats/low ERA's.

My lineup (admittedly biased towards guys I played with or saw play):
1. Kang 2B/SS
2. Escanda 2B/SS
3. Cortez C
4. Hedman 1B
5. Turner DH
6. Smude 3B
7. Frederick RF (if you're reading this Nick, I put you in right because there's less to screw up out there)
8. Mandelblatt LF
9. Munzer CF
SP Colvin

Off the bench:
OF Witzansky
OF Gentili
MI Huerta
MI Rager
MI Ruiz
C  Felipe Aguilar or Mike Silva
DH Kula
Hickey (what position did he play?)
P Spike Einseidler
P Adam Gardner
P Jake Bruml
P Travis Rooke-Ley

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on May 18, 2013, 09:02:48 PM
I'll get started with a few obvious guys from other teams

Chapman
P Brian Ruah
P Wayde Kitchens
P Jordan Sigman
P Devin Drag (16-0 in 2007?!)
P Scott Akamine
P Jeff Green
P Buddy Klovsted
IF/P Kurt Yacko
are we starting to see a pattern here...?
OF Ryan Prechtl
OF Mike Vass
Of John Semel (purely from his 2009 season)
IF Tristan Phillips
IF Matt Luzar
OF Ryan Hall
Alex Taylor
Eric Albright
Jason Mooneyham

Cal Lutheran
IF David Iden
IF Paul Hartmann
IF Nick Boggan
IF KC Judge
Tom McGee
P Jason Hirsch
P Chase Tigert

La Verne
IF Scott Marcus (2008)
IF Victor Pinado
IF John Michael Hattabaugh
C Mike Surina
OF Jacob Ludvik
P Kevin Knight?
P Scott Lindeen
I'm sure there are a bunch from that national championship team in 1995..
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pomonaalum on May 18, 2013, 10:03:35 PM
Yeah, I remember Smude.   Great player.  But with Hedman at 1b, didn't have a place for him. 
Hickey played 1b and corner outfield spots...Witzansky was similar, and some 3b as well, I think.

Seem to Remember Rager doing some pitching as well?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on May 20, 2013, 04:56:53 PM
I don't know if Smude ever played 3rd during his career, but we took groundballs at third together during bp before an alumni game so that's enough for me!

Sounds like we could throw Witzansky at 3B too. Kang also got some time in pro ball at third, so you could slide him over and put Huerta or Rager in a middle infield spot. And if you want someone who got more significant innings at 3rd during their time at PP, my best solution would be Campbell.

Switching gears back to the present, congrats to Nick Gentili (OF) and Jake Bruml (UT) for their selections on D3's All-West Region 2nd team. And big ups to Simon Rosenbaum who was not only selected to the 3rd team (UT) but named newcomer of the year.

http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-region/2013/west (http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-region/2013/west)

Tough break for Erik Munzer, who is overlooked after his first team All-SCIAC selection.
-Alex Schiewe from Redlands and his .455 BA got a much deserved spot on the 3rd team.
-Timothy Williams from George Fox has a little higher average, OBP, Slg % but half as many stolen bases and 3 errors to Munzer's 0. Tough call between the two, but Williams certainly is by no means undeserving.
-Cole Bagbey from Lousiana College gets the last spot. Beats Munzer in runs, OBP, HR's (2 to 0), and stolen bases. Munzer has the edge in BA, RBI's, and significant edge with the errors (Bagbey had 5). I think what gets Bagbey in is the 80 point edge in OBP despite Munzer's 25 point edge in BA.

Other SCIAC selections:
Cal Lu:
First Team- 1B Nick Boggan, UT Jake Petersen, RP Aaron Roth
Second Team- 2B Garrett Smith, SS Trevor Koons, 3B Nicho Dellavalle

Redlands:
Second Team- C Sean McMillan
Third Team- SS Jordan Dresner, Schiewe

Whittier:
Third Team- Julian Barzilli

Notably absent (First team All-SCIAC):
Redlands 2B Jason Henning .386/.439/.513, 38 Runs, 27 RBI, 11 SB
Occidental SS Logan Allen .342/.412/.484, 34 Runs, 27 RBI, 14 SB
Occidental P Scott Hong 5-1, 1.39 ERA, 4 Saves, 58.1 IP, 49 K, 17 BB, .200 BAA (Not to mention .336 BA, .451 OBP, 36 Runs, 3HR's, and 33 SB as a hitter)
La Verne P Kevin Knight 6-3, 1.94 ERA, 83.1 IP, 60 K, 18 BB, .234 BAA

I think Hong and Knight might have a gripe for 3rd team (all the 1st and 2nd team guys had great numbers and were on teams that made regionals). But it is tough to argue against Copeland from LeTourneau (8-2, 1.53 ERA, 9 CG's), Webster from Louisiana College (10-2, 1.77 ERA, 11 CG's, 4 SO's), and Ullman from Concordia Austin (6-4, 1.52 ERA, .222 BAA).

Personally, I'd drop Ullman for Hong. The arguments go both ways and Ullman had almost 20 more innings, but Hong played on a better team that had no other representation on the All West region teams.

The other argument for Hong would be in Rosenbaum's spot. Rosenbaum had a phenomenal year and is totally deserving, but did miss half the season. I do like the nod to Rosenbaum, though, who may have been 1st team All West Region and 1st Team All-American if he continued at the pace he was on, plus played for a team that made regionals.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 20, 2013, 09:28:29 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on May 20, 2013, 04:56:53 PM
I don't know if Smude ever played 3rd during his career, but we took groundballs at third together during bp before an alumni game so that's enough for me!

Sounds like we could throw Witzansky at 3B too. Kang also got some time in pro ball at third, so you could slide him over and put Huerta or Rager in a middle infield spot. And if you want someone who got more significant innings at 3rd during their time at PP, my best solution would be Campbell.

Switching gears back to the present, congrats to Nick Gentili (OF) and Jake Bruml (UT) for their selections on D3's All-West Region 2nd team. And big ups to Simon Rosenbaum who was not only selected to the 3rd team (UT) but named newcomer of the year.

http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-region/2013/west (http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-region/2013/west)

Tough break for Erik Munzer, who is overlooked after his first team All-SCIAC selection.
-Alex Schiewe from Redlands and his .455 BA got a much deserved spot on the 3rd team.
-Timothy Williams from George Fox has a little higher average, OBP, Slg % but half as many stolen bases and 3 errors to Munzer's 0. Tough call between the two, but Williams certainly is by no means undeserving.
-Cole Bagbey from Lousiana College gets the last spot. Beats Munzer in runs, OBP, HR's (2 to 0), and stolen bases. Munzer has the edge in BA, RBI's, and significant edge with the errors (Bagbey had 5). I think what gets Bagbey in is the 80 point edge in OBP despite Munzer's 25 point edge in BA.

Other SCIAC selections:
Cal Lu:
First Team- 1B Nick Boggan, UT Jake Petersen, RP Aaron Roth
Second Team- 2B Garrett Smith, SS Trevor Koons, 3B Nicho Dellavalle

Redlands:
Second Team- C Sean McMillan
Third Team- SS Jordan Dresner, Schiewe

Whittier:
Third Team- Julian Barzilli

Notably absent (First team All-SCIAC):
Redlands 2B Jason Henning .386/.439/.513, 38 Runs, 27 RBI, 11 SB
Occidental SS Logan Allen .342/.412/.484, 34 Runs, 27 RBI, 14 SB
Occidental P Scott Hong 5-1, 1.39 ERA, 4 Saves, 58.1 IP, 49 K, 17 BB, .200 BAA (Not to mention .336 BA, .451 OBP, 36 Runs, 3HR's, and 33 SB as a hitter)
La Verne P Kevin Knight 6-3, 1.94 ERA, 83.1 IP, 60 K, 18 BB, .234 BAA

I think Hong and Knight might have a gripe for 3rd team (all the 1st and 2nd team guys had great numbers and were on teams that made regionals). But it is tough to argue against Copeland from LeTourneau (8-2, 1.53 ERA, 9 CG's), Webster from Louisiana College (10-2, 1.77 ERA, 11 CG's, 4 SO's), and Ullman from Concordia Austin (6-4, 1.52 ERA, .222 BAA).

Personally, I'd drop Ullman for Hong. The arguments go both ways and Ullman had almost 20 more innings, but Hong played on a better team that had no other representation on the All West region teams.

The other argument for Hong would be in Rosenbaum's spot. Rosenbaum had a phenomenal year and is totally deserving, but did miss half the season. I do like the nod to Rosenbaum, though, who may have been 1st team All West Region and 1st Team All-American if he continued at the pace he was on, plus played for a team that made regionals.
I am a big advocate to let the computers crunch the numbers....
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on May 21, 2013, 11:36:00 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on May 20, 2013, 09:28:29 PM
I am a big advocate to let the computers crunch the numbers....

I'm not. I think there are a lot of things that wouldn't show up in a statistical analysis. I also think that no matter what formula/algorithm/program was used, you would have people disagreeing with how certain things were weighted. And while I use some statistics to try and get my point across, probably too much so, I wish I had more real observation and qualitative evidence to inject into the conversation. As Vin Scully said, "Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamppost: for support, not illumination."

But Crash, speaking of having qualitative evidence and observation to go off, are there any particular Chapman players you would add or subtract from my initial little list for an all-time Chapman team?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Lets Play Two on May 21, 2013, 05:48:01 PM
Chapman has had so many quality players over the years, making it extremely difficult to narrow down the list.  I would give consideration to Brian Sanders - SS, Tyler Dean - OF, Tony Serna - C, Adam Olow - OF, Jairo Ochoa  - RHP and Mike Carey - RHP.  Aaron Rifkin had one of the best single seasons before moving on to Cal State Fullerton.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on May 29, 2013, 02:43:01 PM
Congratulations to Pomona-Pitzer Outfielder Erik Munzer for his selection to the Rawling's Gold Glove Team! His outstanding speed and athletic ability gave him a ton of range in the outfield, particularly in PP's deep left center gap. Well-earned Mr. Munzer, who was also an all-region defender in soccer.

Below is the link to the ABCA All-America teams, with the Gold Glove Team at the end:
http://www.clusports.com/stats/baseball/2013/2013ABCARawlingsAA.pdf (http://www.clusports.com/stats/baseball/2013/2013ABCARawlingsAA.pdf)

SCIAC players represented on All-American teams:

CLU- Jake Petersen First Team Utility
CLU- Nick Boggan Second Team 1B
CLU- Aaron Roth Second Team P

Congrats to those Kingsmen, who all had pretty spectacular years.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on May 31, 2013, 06:02:51 PM
Yeah, congrats to the whole solute team.

You seem to have teams climbing in the right direction, now for that turbo-charge.

(of course, the wheels would have to come off your northern friends)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: RFB on June 28, 2013, 01:46:44 PM
http://www.goredlands.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/releases/20130627vyc7lp

Scott Laverty has accepted the HC position at Chapman. Tough loss for Redlands and a great hire for Chapman. Scott did a great job building the baseball program and is highly thought of in the Redlands athletic family. Best of luck to him!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on June 28, 2013, 04:31:28 PM
Quote from: RFB on June 28, 2013, 01:46:44 PM
http://www.goredlands.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/releases/20130627vyc7lp

Scott Laverty has accepted the HC position at Chapman. Tough loss for Redlands and a great hire for Chapman. Scott did a great job building the baseball program and is highly thought of in the Redlands athletic family. Best of luck to him!

If you cannot beat them join them.  Redlands won the series from Chapman this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on June 28, 2013, 05:06:12 PM
Less smog and closer to Disneyland. :P
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ChapFan on June 28, 2013, 05:15:39 PM
Well I can say that I am extremely happy with this pick of Coach Laverty. The man knows how to recruit SoCal and with CU as the school he is recruiting for he is going to have a much easier time getting Student/Athletes. Had it not been for Redlands not offering the major my son wanted it was very possible that he would have been playing for Laverty at Redlands. Also on the plus side for the Junior and Seniors is that Laverty somewhat knows them and the transition for the veteran players to a new coach may be a bit easier.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on July 04, 2013, 07:57:13 PM
Yep, great hire. It will be interesting how all the youngsters that Tom T recruited develop. Coach T recruited well and has left some real talent behind. With such a young team, last season was not
the best for CU. With such a reputable new coach, recruiting should continue as in the past.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on July 05, 2013, 09:31:30 PM
Quote from: dahlby on July 04, 2013, 07:57:13 PM
Yep, great hire. It will be interesting how all the youngsters that Tom T recruited develop. Coach T recruited well and has left some real talent behind. With such a young team, last season was not
the best for CU. With such a reputable new coach, recruiting should continue as in the past.
Only 1 senior on 2013 roster. Pitching coach Dave Edwards is returning per the press release.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on July 29, 2013, 02:10:50 PM
Any word on the new coach at Redlands?  Schol isn't too far away and you would think that would want to have someone there by now.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on July 29, 2013, 11:07:08 PM
I know the process has started as I have been contacted as a professional reference for a potential coach. I am not certain how long the process will take but I know that Redlands AD Jeff Martinez has the ball rolling.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on September 18, 2013, 07:40:16 AM
Chapman Baseball Recruiting  ;D
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/20130917l2m0rp
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on September 18, 2013, 12:08:00 PM
Any new news on Redlands? Is Coach Renfro handling the recruiting in the meantime?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on September 24, 2013, 06:33:24 PM
Redlands has no plans to hire a coach until sometime in October. Gonna be a rough transition for whomever they bring in. No fall ball for evaluation.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on September 24, 2013, 07:31:54 PM
Anyone know which SCIAC teams besides Whittier are headed to the "Arizona Classic" tourney in early Feb?  It looks like PLU, Linfield, G. Fox and Whitman from the NWC are all playing down there.  Possibly no Texas teams this time??
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on September 25, 2013, 02:49:32 PM
Why would Redlands wait so long to hire an in-house guy?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on September 26, 2013, 02:08:57 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on September 24, 2013, 06:33:24 PM
Redlands has no plans to hire a coach until sometime in October. Gonna be a rough transition for whomever they bring in. No fall ball for evaluation.
NEW REDLANDS HEAD COACH
http://www.goredlands.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/20130924heiv99
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 02, 2014, 09:42:12 PM
SCIAC

How many seniors did each team lose to graduation?

Cal Lu 8
Cal Tech 5   
Chapman 1
Claremont 5
La Verne 10   
Occidental 5
Pomona-Pitzer 7
Redlands 4
Whittier 7

I guess the bigger question is how many starters from 2013 will not be there in 2014

I know Cal Lu returns only 2 of its top hitters from 2013.

Chapman only lost 1 starter from 2013 unless others don't return in 2014.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 29, 2014, 04:44:31 AM
2014 SCIAC Schedule - Baseball starts this Saturday with Alumni games

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/schedule

Any predictions.

Cal Lu, Pomona and Chapman will finish in top 3 is my guess for 2014. La Verne, Occidental, Redlands in the middle and CMS, Whitter and Cal Tech in the bottom.

Cal Lu will make the regional's and not sure on a 2nd SCIAC team. My guess is 2 from NWC, 1 from SWC, 1/2 from SCIAC and 1/2 from ASC.

Of course my predictions are never right.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on January 29, 2014, 09:51:18 AM
I think the dark horse (if you can call them that based on their past) is Chapman. I think they are going to surprise a lot of people and be back on top of the SCIAC.

CLU will be all of their games because of their pitching, but it would not surprise me that they lose a lot of close games because of their lack of hitting. (which is funny given they were the top offensive team in DIII last year)

PP will be in it.

my 2 cents.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on January 29, 2014, 02:53:25 PM
I agree that Chapman could/should rebound:  They have 4 returning hitters with BA above .300 that saw 50+ AB's
- Battaglia .333
- Saatzer   .365
- Dillion     .346
- Ortega    .379

I agree that PP will be in it and they have returning hitters > .300
- Rosenbaum  .398
- Bruml          .354
- Madden       .329
and Bowers with 38 AB at .312


CLU pitching/battery looks to be strong as they return all top pitchers and starting catcher.
They also have 3 returning hitters with > 50 AB:
- Petersen      .444
- DellaValle    .380
- DuBois        .330
plus Casciola had 44 AB's with .364
and Abushahla (.424) who made the starting lineup for the playoff games. 


Looking forward to a good competitive year!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on January 29, 2014, 05:02:21 PM
Welcome SoCalSoxFan:

What happened to Ronnie Burton at CLU?

For some reason I thought he was a Jr.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on January 29, 2014, 05:38:41 PM
108,  I thought he transferred to CLU last year as a Senior.  I can confirm and let you know.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on January 29, 2014, 06:33:40 PM
108 Stitches:   Yes, the 2013 CLU roster showed Ronnie Burton as a Senior

2013 Baseball Roster
23       Ronnie Burton
Class   Senior
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on January 29, 2014, 07:15:00 PM
Looks like McGee is back on the Chapman roster, but no Osaki (the very talented #2 and #3 starters from 2012 behind Rauh trying to return from injury) also looks like Hanks, #2 in IP last season is gone. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: NWBaseballFan10 on January 29, 2014, 09:07:27 PM
The roster I found online did include Osaki. His return along with Hanks, Riddle, McGee, Watson and Richards should provide the Panthers with a solid nucleus of pitching talent to compete for the SCIAC title this year. 2014 should be a promising year for this club and I would not be surprised to see them in the West Regional in May.

Here's that roster I looked at: http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/roster
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on January 29, 2014, 09:27:01 PM
Wow, Osaki wasn't on that yesterday, great for him and Chapman!  It does look like Hanks is gone, but Chapman now has potentially three very solid starters.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on January 30, 2014, 01:17:57 AM
That would have been news to me. Riddle and Smith are throwing well. Watson threw very well on Sat in an intrasquad game. McGee threw an inning a couple weeks ago but they may hold him back for a bit. His surgery trailed Osaki's by 3 months. Richards is in the same boat. Dr. Yocum cautioned that it would take 12 months post surgery to get back but my "I don't know what I'm talking about" lay opinion thinks its closer to 17-18 months. Osaki's been throwing bullpens for the last few months without cutting loose but the last 2 weeks, he's been airing it out without any pain. The velocity is good, high 80's and touching 90. Eddie, the pitching coach, thinks he'll end up in the low 90's as he builds his arm back up. Breaking stuff has been good so far. Showing some rust but you can see its coming back to him. Laverty hasn't tipped his hand yet on who will start and who will relieve. He's talked about flip flopping guys.  Watson could start. Osaki might close. This might change week to week. Same thing with McGee so as to not overburden their arms.  Hanks? Last year was a tough year for him. He struggled during the fall. Today, he beaned Greg Dillon in practice. Dillon may be out a few days. There's probably a role for Hanks but it won't be clear til after he's pitched a few. There's a freshman in the mix and a couple sophs who saw a little action last year but the couple remaining spots remain open.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 31, 2014, 02:21:50 AM
Looks like Chapman Coach Edwards could have another outstanding group of pitchers if all are healthy and able to perform. Coach Edwards has a long history of producing great pitchers.
http://chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/coaches/edwards

Key to Panther season will be to stay healthy, pitchers pitch up to expectations, hit well enough to win the close games and good defense. Past 2 years Panthers have had problems in these areas.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on February 02, 2014, 05:07:27 PM
Chapman opens its 2014 season on the road at CS San Marcos (NAIA) with Hanks set to start. Since it's the regular day for bullpens, Riddle, Smith, Watson and Osaki may each get an inning of work as a tune up for this weekend trip to Texas Lutheran and Trinity. Don't know much about those teams other than what I read here but coming off a bad year with question marks re pitching,  it'd be nice if they could go 2-2.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 02, 2014, 11:32:45 PM
Both Trinity and TLU have lots of unanswered questions regarding their teams; what will be more interesting is the acutal performance of all of these teams rather than the actual result. Chapman (or either TLU/TU) could go 0-3 and still have a very successful weekend. Championship teams are build by playing tough competition and at least for TU and Chapman this series is about seeing what they have vs what it was, say two years ago when both had more mature teams.

Should be a great weekend of baseball. These is a slight possibility of rain on Friday but the rest of the weekend looks clear. A Friday night rain out will be picked up on Sat.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 03, 2014, 10:57:10 AM
I would say my biggest question mark regarding Chapman is if Laverty will get the same out of the players that Tereshuck (no clue how to spell it) did.  It seems like most of his teams at Redlands were pretty average.  Maybe that is too harsh but we will see.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on February 04, 2014, 12:20:58 AM
That's a good observation. The veterans have noticed the difference. The fear that T put into the boys when they were freshman is missing. T had a way of making the boys feel like someone was always watching. Laverty has a different,  more relaxed vibe in the dugout. Most of the key roles are filled by upper class men this year (Watson, Saatzer, Battaglia, Dillon, Gandy, McGee) so maybe he relies on them to keep the team on track.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 04, 2014, 03:11:56 AM
Quote from: Colorado on February 04, 2014, 12:20:58 AM
That's a good observation. The veterans have noticed the difference. The fear that T put into the boys when they were freshman is missing. T had a way of making the boys feel like someone was always watching. Laverty has a different,  more relaxed vibe in the dugout. Most of the key roles are filled by upper class men this year (Watson, Saatzer, Battaglia, Dillon, Gandy, McGee) so maybe he relies on them to keep the team on track.
Time will tell if the different approach equals SCIAC championships, Regional Playoff spots and trips to Appleton...

2014 Roster
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/201402031iym1n

2013 Stats
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/teams/chapman?view=lineup
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 04, 2014, 08:13:30 PM
Chapman Scoreboard

Chapman 13 Cal State San Marcos 2 Final  ;D
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/boxscores/20140204_p6yf.xml

SCIAC Scoreboard
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/schedule
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on February 04, 2014, 08:23:44 PM
Looks like they had a heck of a game, the 3 taters is especially impressive.  I remember the transfer from Michigan State, who had a pinch hit HR, was very solid in high school.  Nice start!  It looks like San Marcos might be a bit down this year, but no matter....

I saw that San Marcos beat up NAIA La Sierra in a DH a week or so ago, then, La Sierra went out and beat Oxy for their first win in I think 8 games, limiting them to two hits.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 04, 2014, 09:43:53 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 04, 2014, 08:13:30 PM
Chapman Scoreboard

Chapman 13 Cal State San Marcos 2 Final  ;D
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/boxscores/20140204_p6yf.xml

SCIAC Scoreboard
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/schedule

Chapman News
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/201402031iym1n
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on February 05, 2014, 12:22:52 AM
A very good day for Panther fans.  There's 2 story lines from today's game: One, you can't gauge a season on 1 game but that line up looks like its got some boppers.  When Dillon comes back from his injury, there's about 5-7 tough outs in that lineup.  Two, though this is a hitters park (mid afternoon wind blows out to left and center like a jet stream) but Chapman's 6 pitchers were very good. 1st time I've seen Smith, Hahn and Molnar pitch. Smith was sharp. Freshman Hahn's brief outing was pretty effortless. Molnar was throwing gas. Don't know if its because San Marcos is not up to snuff, but Chapman may have a little depth this year. Hope so. Right out of the gate, this weekend will be a good test. On to Texas.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: RFB on February 06, 2014, 03:12:48 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 03, 2014, 10:57:10 AM
I would say my biggest question mark regarding Chapman is if Laverty will get the same out of the players that Tereshuck (no clue how to spell it) did.  It seems like most of his teams at Redlands were pretty average.  Maybe that is too harsh but we will see.

Coach Laverty took over a terrible baseball program at Redlands and made them very respectable over his 14 year tenure. He's a good recruiter and should do very well with all the talent surrounding him in OC. He's a very good baseball coach and will do well at Chapman in my opinion.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 07, 2014, 09:13:44 AM
I have always had a soft spot for Coach Laverty as the only time I was tossed as a college coach was in his ballpark when I argued a terrible third strike call (all were positive it hit the plate, except the one that counted)and was rightfully tossed only to be met by Coach Laverty on my way off the field telling me he agreed with me.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 07, 2014, 08:13:08 PM
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/boxscores/20140207_tomx.xml

Bad day for the Panthers in Texas. 5 ERRORS 4 unearned runs. 32, cloudy, drizzle ice per the box score. Only 4 hits and 1 run with 11K and 8 LOB
.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 07, 2014, 09:20:29 PM
SCIAC SCOREBOARD
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/schedule
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 08, 2014, 03:26:02 PM
SCIAC teams are 1-13 so far in 2014  ???  ???
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 09, 2014, 04:49:25 PM
Another loss for the Panthers(1-3). Getting swept in Texas is not starting off in 2014 well. Very early in the season still but 2 seasons without a winning record so far extends into 2014.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 10, 2014, 10:36:18 AM
Crash don't let the record fool you they are a solid team. First game was survival conditions and they played two solid games against Trinity. Both teams left way too many runners in scoring position, they "looked" better than UTTyler IMO, give them a month while their pitching and hitting comes around and they should be in the SCIAC hunt. They do not have the dominant pitching that they had when you were there but they are a solid team and are well coached.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on February 10, 2014, 12:23:30 PM

SCIAC after the first weekend.   Ouch.

The Northwest teams, Texas and Emory all had successful weekends against SCIAC.
Not that I follow SW baseball, but I'm surprised Emory took 3 out of 4 vs Occi, PP and CLU; and scoring 41 runs in the process.  Petersen/Hebda from Cal Lu shut them down, but they scored 11, 11 and 17 in the other three games.

                                          SCIAC          All
Cal Lutheran                        0-0           1-1
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps       0-0           2-3
Occidental                           0-0            1-2
Chapman                            0-0            1-3
La Verne                             0-0            1-3
Pomona-Pitzer                     0-0            1-3
Caltech                               0-0            0-2
Redlands                            0-0             0-5
Whittier                              0-0             0-5


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on February 12, 2014, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on February 10, 2014, 12:23:30 PM

SCIAC after the first weekend.   Ouch.

The Northwest teams, Texas and Emory all had successful weekends against SCIAC.
Not that I follow SW baseball, but I'm surprised Emory took 3 out of 4 vs Occi, PP and CLU; and scoring 41 runs in the process.  Petersen/Hebda from Cal Lu shut them down, but they scored 11, 11 and 17 in the other three games.

Emory has a lot of seniors and it is not surprising that they came out of the blocks strong.  The signs are here that they could do very well this season.  They return with a set against Piedmont, but they are going to be a tough team to play in 2014.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on February 13, 2014, 12:16:02 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on February 12, 2014, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on February 10, 2014, 12:23:30 PM

SCIAC after the first weekend.   Ouch.

The Northwest teams, Texas and Emory all had successful weekends against SCIAC.
Not that I follow SW baseball, but I'm surprised Emory took 3 out of 4 vs Occi, PP and CLU; and scoring 41 runs in the process.  Petersen/Hebda from Cal Lu shut them down, but they scored 11, 11 and 17 in the other three games.

Emory has a lot of seniors and it is not surprising that they came out of the blocks strong.  The signs are here that they could do very well this season.  They return with a set against Piedmont, but they are going to be a tough team to play in 2014.

Jim,  I'll be watching to see how they do.  I know it's early, but as the year ends, it will benefit CLU's and PP's national rankings if Emory has a great year!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 13, 2014, 01:32:58 PM
It might help them Nationally, but where it matters the most -  in Regional ranking, it won't - based on the new rule.  ::)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on February 14, 2014, 02:32:05 AM
What is the new rule? Also, what criteria is used to pick the 6 teams for the regional? I have a vague notion about it. Have heard the terms "SOS" and in region games and the 3 NCAA regional rankings but is it the latter that finally determines?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 14, 2014, 06:50:48 AM
SCIAC CONFERENCE Games start today.
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/schedule (http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/schedule)

Feb. 14
La Verne   @Redlands   2:30 PM   
Whittier   @Caltech   2:30 PM 
Occidental   @Chapman   2:30 PM 
Pomona-Pitzer   @Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   

Feb. 15 
Chapman   @Occidental   11:00 AM  Live stats   
Redlands   La Verne   11:00 AM   @ Rio Hondo College   
Caltech   @Whittier   11:00 AM 
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   @Pomona-Pitzer   11:00 AM   
Redlands   La Verne   2:00 PM   @ Rio Hondo College   
Caltech   @Whittier   2:00 PM   
Chapman   @Occidental   2:00 PM   
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   @Pomona-Pitzer   2:00 PM   

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 14, 2014, 07:49:12 AM
Quote from: Colorado on February 14, 2014, 02:32:05 AM
What is the new rule? Also, what criteria is used to pick the 6 teams for the regional? I have a vague notion about it. Have heard the terms "SOS" and in region games and the 3 NCAA regional rankings but is it the latter that finally determines?

The National Ranking (both the ABCA and the D3baseball.com polls) has nothing to do with the selections for the postseason as neither is a sponsored NCAA ranking. All that really matters in the NCAA's Regional Ranking(created by a regional committee of coaches), which takes SoS into consideration as a part of its criteria.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 14, 2014, 12:29:20 PM
My SCIAC picks for the weekend:

La Verne 3-0 vs Redlands- don't see Redlands having the pitching to beat ULV.
Whittier 3-0 vs Cal Tech- Probably Cal Tech's best and only chance to win a game this year...not happening.
Chapman 3-0 vs Oxy- Chapman's pitching will be way too much for Oxy's bats.  I expect pretty low scoring games all weekend.
Pomona 2-1 vs CMS- Unless Pomona figured some things out in practice this week they will drop one of these games.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on February 14, 2014, 02:02:49 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 14, 2014, 07:49:12 AM
Quote from: Colorado on February 14, 2014, 02:32:05 AM
What is the new rule? Also, what criteria is used to pick the 6 teams for the regional? I have a vague notion about it. Have heard the terms "SOS" and in region games and the 3 NCAA regional rankings but is it the latter that finally determines?

The National Ranking (both the ABCA and the D3baseball.com polls) has nothing to do with the selections for the postseason as neither is a sponsored NCAA ranking. All that really matters in the NCAA's Regional Ranking(created by a regional committee of coaches), which takes SoS into consideration as a part of its criteria.

Is the SOS just based on SOS in Regional games or SOS in all games?   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 14, 2014, 03:43:00 PM
This will help. Regional, plus some mystery meetings.

http://www.d3baseball.com/interactive/faq/ncaaTournament#playoffs

Win your conference or else....
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 14, 2014, 07:40:13 PM
Never leave it in the hands of the committees to decide. Classic example was two years ago when Central #2 Univ of Chicago was bypassed in favor of Central #4 Illinois Wesleyan. NCAA still has yet to explain that one even though Chicago was ahead of IWU in their own final ranking.

WIN YOUR CONFERENCE BID!!!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 15, 2014, 10:53:08 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 14, 2014, 12:29:20 PM
My SCIAC picks for the weekend:

La Verne 3-0 vs Redlands- don't see Redlands having the pitching to beat ULV.
Whittier 3-0 vs Cal Tech- Probably Cal Tech's best and only chance to win a game this year...not happening.
Chapman 3-0 vs Oxy- Chapman's pitching will be way too much for Oxy's bats.  I expect pretty low scoring games all weekend.
Pomona 2-1 vs CMS- Unless Pomona figured some things out in practice this week they will drop one of these games.

OK, La Verne loses game 1 by 1.  I really didn't see this coming but they should win both today.
Whittier thumps Cal Tech.  I just don't see Cal Tech ever winning a SCIAC game.
Oxy gets one from Chapman.  Oxy has 3 hits in the first 9 innings but their pitching was lights out.  Chapman really needs to figure this out today or they are going to put themselves in a huge hole early.
Pomona squeaks by CMS.  I think CMS might be a lot better this year and Pomona really seems to be down.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on February 16, 2014, 03:11:36 PM
Had a chance to watch some of the PP-CMS series.

Thoughts on the Hens: they can still swing it. The loss of Munzer, Gentili, and Moyer in that lineup is big but they have some good freshmen (Tanner Nishioka went 8 for 15 this weekend against his brother's alma mater, including two home runs over Pomona's deep left field fence) and some improved older guys who have and will continue to step up (see: Jackson Badger who is batting .500 in this short season with a home run, and EJ Lopez is 8 for 15 so far with a home run after a sophomore dip). Just below .300 team average and almost 6 runs a game, and some hitters who are much better than their numbers right now would indicate (Bruml, Novom, Brice, Fox)

The problem- which is obvious from the scores of their games- is the pitching and defense. Bruml is their ace and he's been good. But they're still trying to sort out the rest of the rotation while last year's #2 and #3 starters are recovering from injuries (Sophomores Cameron Yen and Simon Rosenbaum). Rob Weller was their closer last year and was supposed to be their #2, and he got hurt last weekend too. There are a couple good freshman arms, and some experienced arms who will ultimately throw better than they have thus far, but it's been rough. They've got 43 walks in 64 innings. If the pitching doesn't get better, they'll be fighting to make the SCIAC tournament.

It should be noted though- the team ERA is a little over 5. Not as bad as 9 runs a game would indicate. Why? Defense. 22 unearned runs so far this year. 22 in 7 games! Team fielding percentage of .930. Again, small sample size and guys like Lopez (who I think is great on D) and Nishioka will not have sub .900 fielding percentages at year's end. But you can't give teams extra outs and free runs and expect to win.

And they've got CLU next weekend. Gulp.

As for CMS, they definitely did not look like a team that is going to go 5-23 in SCIAC again. They benefitted from shaky pitching, but you still have to put the bat on the ball. They had 28 hits in the three games, and a lot of hard hit outs. Their pitching wasn't terribly impressive but not horrible either, and I think they're a team that might steal a few games from the top half of the conference. Oh and the Witte brothers up the middle really impressed me on D and with the sticks.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 16, 2014, 11:30:21 PM
Nobody with a overall record above .500  ??? ??? ???

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/standings

2014 could be an very interesting year with no clear stand above the pack team so far early in the season.

BUT Cal Lu has only played 2 games but next 6 games will tell where they are at

So far a few things

Chapman has the best Team ERA at 2.76 and Opponents BA .197

Cal Lu has only played 2 games and Team BA .385 SLG% .500

Occidental leads with .959 Fielding % and 6 runners caught stealing

Whittier leads with 59 runs and 78 hits but 3 games were against Cal Tech(wvhich really need to start playing club baseball and not DIII)

5 teams have 3 wins
4 teams have 4 or more losses
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 17, 2014, 07:24:45 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 16, 2014, 11:30:21 PM
Nobody with a overall record above .500  ??? ??? ???

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/standings

2014 could be an very interesting year with no clear stand above the pack team so far early in the season.

BUT Cal Lu has only played 2 games but next 6 games will tell where they are at

So far a few things

Chapman has the best Team ERA at 2.76 and Opponents BA .197

Cal Lu has only played 2 games and Team BA .385 SLG% .500

Occidental leads with .959 Fielding % and 6 runners caught stealing

Whittier leads with 59 runs and 78 hits but 3 games were against Cal Tech(wvhich really need to start playing club baseball and not DIII)

5 teams have 3 wins
4 teams have 4 or more losses

I think the SCIAC comes down to 3 teams this year.  CLU, Chapman and La Verne.  Not much sample size from CLU yet but Chapman has shown some pretty stout pitching but they need to get their bats going real fast.  La Verne seems to be up and down but they will be right there at the end.

Pomona and Oxy should probably battle for the 4th spot but I am not sold on Oxy at all.  They have got to improve their hitting if they want to have any type of success.  Oxy has scored 16 runs in 6 games and has only stolen 2 bags so far, which is not normal for them.  Their pitching has kept them in games but that will only take them so far with no hitting.  Heck, even Cal Tech has a higher slugging % so far.  Plenty of ballgames left.

I think Teddy might be right that CMS could win some games this year.  They hung with Pomona the entire series and that either means Pomona is down or CMS is pretty good (I would say CMS is much improved).

The Chapman/La Verne series and the CLU/Pomona series are going to be a big part of this season and I expect good games all around.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 18, 2014, 08:25:36 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 17, 2014, 07:24:45 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 16, 2014, 11:30:21 PM
Nobody with a overall record above .500  ??? ??? ???

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/standings

2014 could be an very interesting year with no clear stand above the pack team so far early in the season.

BUT Cal Lu has only played 2 games but next 6 games will tell where they are at

So far a few things

Chapman has the best Team ERA at 2.76 and Opponents BA .197

Cal Lu has only played 2 games and Team BA .385 SLG% .500

Occidental leads with .959 Fielding % and 6 runners caught stealing

Whittier leads with 59 runs and 78 hits but 3 games were against Cal Tech(wvhich really need to start playing club baseball and not DIII)

5 teams have 3 wins
4 teams have 4 or more losses

I think the SCIAC comes down to 3 teams this year.  CLU, Chapman and La Verne.  Not much sample size from CLU yet but Chapman has shown some pretty stout pitching but they need to get their bats going real fast.  La Verne seems to be up and down but they will be right there at the end.

Pomona and Oxy should probably battle for the 4th spot but I am not sold on Oxy at all.  They have got to improve their hitting if they want to have any type of success.  Oxy has scored 16 runs in 6 games and has only stolen 2 bags so far, which is not normal for them.  Their pitching has kept them in games but that will only take them so far with no hitting.  Heck, even Cal Tech has a higher slugging % so far.  Plenty of ballgames left.

I think Teddy might be right that CMS could win some games this year.  They hung with Pomona the entire series and that either means Pomona is down or CMS is pretty good (I would say CMS is much improved).

The Chapman/La Verne series and the CLU/Pomona series are going to be a big part of this season and I expect good games all around.
Chapman so far in 2014 has good pitching. Osaki leading the way with 0.82 ERA and Smith with a 1.04 ERA.

As stated before Hitting plus Defense will tell how well Chapman does in 2014. Back in 2012 Chapman had a Team ERA of 3.05 but could only manage a .500 overall record due to lack of hitting and poor defense. The next 2 weeks could have Chapman rise to the top or fall to the bottom with key series with La Verne and Cal Lu.

I really feel the loss was a bad loss to Occidental with poor hitting/defense. I really believe Occidental will fall to the bottom of the SCIAC this year above Cal Tech.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on February 18, 2014, 01:10:46 PM

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 16, 2014, 11:30:21 PM


I think the SCIAC comes down to 3 teams this year.  CLU, Chapman and La Verne.  Not much sample size from CLU yet but Chapman has shown some pretty stout pitching but they need to get their bats going real fast.  La Verne seems to be up and down but they will be right there at the end.

Pomona and Oxy should probably battle for the 4th spot but I am not sold on Oxy at all.  They have got to improve their hitting if they want to have any type of success.  Oxy has scored 16 runs in 6 games and has only stolen 2 bags so far, which is not normal for them.  Their pitching has kept them in games but that will only take them so far with no hitting.  Heck, even Cal Tech has a higher slugging % so far.  Plenty of ballgames left.

I think Teddy might be right that CMS could win some games this year.  They hung with Pomona the entire series and that either means Pomona is down or CMS is pretty good (I would say CMS is much improved).

The Chapman/La Verne series and the CLU/Pomona series are going to be a big part of this season and I expect good games all around.


Crash:   I agree, The Chapman / LaVerne series should be a good indicator of who will compete for SCIAC.

I expected more from Pomona vs CMS. 
We'll see how they do against CLU.

Given that Brumi and Miles had good outings last weekend for Pomona, we'll see if the hitting CLU showed against Emory will continue or whether they'll cool off.
I'm expecting Brumi vs Petersen on Friday will be a good matchup to watch.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 21, 2014, 01:31:19 PM
My weekend SCIAC predictions

Oxy goes 0-3 this weekend against George Fox and none of the games are all that close.  I thought Oxy was headed in the right direction after last year but I think I was wrong.

Redlands 3-0 against Cal Tech.

Cal Lu goes 2-1 vs Pomona but if they beat Bruml today I could see them sweeping.

Claremont sweeps Whittier but the Poets could steal 1 game.  I don't think Whittier will win 10 games this year.

The series of the week is Chapman and La Verne.  I think Chapman's pitching carries them to a 2-1 series win. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on February 21, 2014, 09:43:26 PM
Chapman exploded for 9 runs in the 9th inning to beat ULV 13-4.
Box score and inning by inning at   www.chapmanathletics.com

Double hitter Saturday at Hart Park in Orange.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 21, 2014, 11:27:28 PM
CLU outslugs PP 19 -15

I guess the story is Petersen and Brumi each give up 10 runs!

Gulp... actually 7 and 5  earned but still.

Early games are supposed to be the reverse. Gota love baseball.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on February 22, 2014, 12:08:43 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on February 21, 2014, 11:27:28 PM
CLU outslugs PP 19 -15

I guess the story is Petersen and Brumi each give up 10 runs!

Gulp... actually 7 and 5  earned but still.

Early games are supposed to be the reverse. Gota love baseball.

3 games in for CLU;  I guess hitting and scoring won't be an issue for them this year.
21+ hits.

Big surprise is giving up CLU 15 runs and 10BB!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 22, 2014, 03:17:35 AM
Pitching continues to be strong for Chapman
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/teams?sort=era&r=0&pos=p

Defense is not too bad either for the Panthers
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/teams?sort=fpct&r=0&pos=f

Today the hitting came thru with 14 runs.


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on February 22, 2014, 07:44:12 AM
Nice to see McGee throw 3 hitless innings for Chapman. The velo was there and his slider showed a real bite. Scooby is still shaking off the rust of a 14-month lay off but his stuff looks good. I think the plan is to start giving him some starts real soon. This is a guy with low-mid 90's stuff who won both starts during Chapman's 2011 playoff run including a complete game win at Appleton. The other guy coming back to the lineup was Greg Dillon (concussion) in his first game of the season. Dillon hit .340 last year and got 1 hit but it was a big one: A gapper that drove in 2 in the 9th to widen Chapman's lead to 7-4. Chapman's lineup looks longer now. I'm guessing that today's  DH will show that La Verne  just had a bad day yesterday. They got 2 hits, committed 3 errors and looked out of sorts. Even then, the game was still in doubt until Chapman broke through in the 9th.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 22, 2014, 09:26:03 AM
Chapman will be very tough to beat come May, particularly as their pitching develops. As long as they stay healthy of course.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on February 22, 2014, 08:36:26 PM
Tough day for Pomona-Pitzer. Lost a pitcher's duel in the first game, 3-0. Bright spot was freshman Lane Miles who went the distance, giving up two earned for PP. Looks like they've found their #2.
Side note: Though striking me out in the alumni game required no more than the ability to throw three pitches over the plate, I did think he looked pretty strong against the good players and when I saw him throw against CMS.

In the two other losses this weekend, the Hens gave up a total of 34 runs on 37 hits and committed 9 errors. Ouch. I do think the Sagehens' pitching and defense are better than they've performed, but they've gotta show it.
While the timing of the scoring wasn't ideal, putting up 20 runs in three games against those arms is impressive. Nishioka is now hitting .400 with 3 HR's, 12 Runs, 8 RBI's. Looks like Coach P moved him to the three hole today, will be interesting to see if that's permanent. Rosenbaum's return has been nice too, he's hitting .409 with a .586 OBP.


It looks like CLU is going to be fine on offense this year, and they have to be the favorites in SCIAC. The offense is still anchored by Dellavalle and Petersen, but they've had some young guys step up too. Freshman Gabe Gunters had a ridiculous game this afternoon (4 for 5 with a bomb and 5 RBIS) and Sophomores Ramsey Abushahla and Dave Casciola have swung it well. Petersen did get roughed up in game one, but we know he'll be one of the top pitchers in SCIAC and Hebda and Peters should be too. Oh and there's that Roth guy coming out of the pen, who looks to be just as dominant as last year.

Chapman is poised to be right there with them. They beat up a La Verne team that looked like it could be strong. Laverty's doing something right with the offense- 39 runs in the three games this weekend. And everything I've seen on the boards about their pitching makes them even scarier. I don't think we should look too much into those Texas games (and also remember that Trinity is one of the best teams in the country).

Mildly surprised that Whittier handled CMS so easily (though I can't find stats/updates/results for game three).

Oxy has played GFU pretty tough, though it looks like they may not come away with any wins. Currently tied up in the 11th inning after two close losses.

GFU will be traveling to Claremont tomorrow for a game against my Hens before heading back up. Should be an interesting test for the PP pitchers, and hopefully an opportunity for some guys who haven't thrown much to get innings and show their stuff. Not sure who's starting.

Finally Redlands beat up Cal Tech. Yawn.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 22, 2014, 09:25:13 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 03, 2014, 10:57:10 AM
I would say my biggest question mark regarding Chapman is if Laverty will get the same out of the players that Tereshuck (no clue how to spell it) did.  It seems like most of his teams at Redlands were pretty average.  Maybe that is too harsh but we will see.

Shows you what I know ::)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on February 23, 2014, 12:32:18 AM
D O.C. came by Chapman-ULV double hitter today...in Linfield attire...have to  get the Orange County Dude some Chapman gear to wear to our games (when Linfield is not playing us, of course!). Good to see him again.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on February 23, 2014, 07:52:19 AM
Laverty's doing a good  job of keeping players' heads  in the game by weaving so many guys in and out of the line-up, using 2-4 spots to give as many as 7 guys some at bats and starts.  Its a nice way to get guys involved and get them to feel like they had a hand in the winning. Gandy got a start today, and immediately singled to drive in a run; Demarest came off the bench and homered. They've gotten 4 HR's from guys coming off the bench. 8 different guys threw last week and 9 guys this weekend. No one feels like the train left without them. Next weekend weather permitting, Chapman's #1 pitching versus Cal Lutheran#1 hitting.  The irresistible force about to collide with the immovable object.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 23, 2014, 10:42:16 AM
This weekend will be a big one for determining what is going to happen in the SCIAC. Chapman vs CLU.

I predict Chapman 2 of 3. They have played a tough preseason schedule and should be ready for CLU. I don't think CLU has seen a team like them yet, and Chapman has played on the road vs some good teams so they should be ready. While CLU has scored some runs they have not faced top notch pitching yet IMO and CU pitching should be rounding into shape about now.

Should be a very competitive series.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on February 23, 2014, 01:26:33 PM
I like your prediction. How's your record been on picks? Good I hope. My take:  If CLU can get to or get past CU's starters, CU's pitching edge might be blunted. Against 2 teams so far that struggled, CU's pen hasn't been tested yet in the SCIAC. None of the starters have gone 7 yet (maybe once), and 2 pitchers will be on pitch count restrictions for awhile.  The series could hinge on whether CU's pen can contain that gaudy CLU lineup, and either hold a lead or keep it close.  Here's hoping it doesn't rain.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on February 23, 2014, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on February 23, 2014, 10:42:16 AM
This weekend will be a big one for determining what is going to happen in the SCIAC. Chapman vs CLU.

I predict Chapman 2 of 3. They have played a tough preseason schedule and should be ready for CLU. I don't think CLU has seen a team like them yet, and Chapman has played on the road vs some good teams so they should be ready. While CLU has scored some runs they have not faced top notch pitching yet IMO and CU pitching should be rounding into shape about now.

Should be a very competitive series.

Likely matchups are:
Osaki (1.06) vs Petersen (5.14)
Riddle (4.11) vs Hebda (1.00)
Smith (1.32) vs Peters (3.27)
I agree with 108Stitches that the key will probably be CLU getting into CU's bullpen; although we saw with game 2 against Pomona that they can win a pitchers dual (1-0 going into bottom of the 8th).

Osaki held Trinity to 1 run in 4 innings.  He'll need to have similar success against what has been a much deeper than expected CLU lineup (.404 Batting, .440 OBP, .559 Slugging).  Petersen should bounce back after a rough PP start; and CLU needs that as they can't expect to get 19runs against Osaki/CU

As noted in an earlier post, Abushala and Casciola did hit well last year in limited at bats, so it's not too surprising that they are doing the same to start this year.  The unknowns going in would be results of Transfers and Freshmen.   The transfers Crowl and Cana are both hitting over .450, which has lengthened the lineup; and Freshmen Gunter (.857) and Key (.353) are off to great starts.   After his 4-5 with walkoff 3R HR, I would think Gunter will get the start this weekend.

Looking forward to a great series between these two.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 23, 2014, 08:32:43 PM
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Looking forward to a great series between these two.

Just saw the long term weather forecast and they are expecting (finally!) a big rain storm to hit next week late. Might end up being a "fit it in" series. Not sure who that helps, but we will have to see. Will be great whenever they get it in.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 24, 2014, 12:30:36 AM
Kind of a crazy weekend in the SCIAC!

I picked Chapman to take 2 of 3 from La Verne but never expected them to do what they did.  Scoring 9 in the 9th on Friday and coming back with 2 games with 10+ runs really caught my eye.  La Verne must be hurting real bad right now.

I really thought Claremont showed something last week against Pomona but then they go get thrashed by Whittier ???  I really don't know what to make of that series.

Pomona and Cal Lu played a typical "3rd game of the series" game on Friday, then an absolute pitchers duel on Saturday.  I don't think Peterson was himself but Pomona can surely swing it.  Peterson dominated Emory a few weeks ago but then CLU's#2 Hebda absolutely dealt and Miles looked pretty dominant for Pomona.  Game 3 was a blowout.

Oxy hung pretty tight with George Fox on Saturday after getting dominated Friday.  I don't know what to make of Oxy but they are not going to win if they can't hit.  Having a batting average 34 points below Cal Tech's is not a great sign.  They have played some tight games but if they want to get back to the SCIAC Tourney they have to start hitting.

I love the new SCIAC tourney because it gives teams another chance.  I think the series of the year is with CLU/Chapman (but Mother Nature might win this one) but it won't end either ones season.  I dont think either team sweeps but I really don't know who wins.  Chapman's arms have been damn good but CLU's bats have been too.  Chapman hit ULV all over the place so I really just don't know.

My 4 for the SCIAC Tourney...

1. Cal Lu
2. Chapman
3. Oxy- I know, I sound like I bash them but if they start hitting they will be in business
4. Pomona
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 24, 2014, 08:32:15 AM
CHAPMAN VS CAL LUTHERAN

PITCHING
Chapman 2.79 ERA  .180 OPP BA
Cal Lu 4.19 ERA .247 OPP BA

HITTING
Cal Lu .404 BA .559 SLG % 11 runs scored per game 7 stolen bases  5 home runs
Chapman .301 BA .435 SLG% 7 runs scored per game 8 stolen bases 10 home runs

DEFENSE
Chapman .966 Fielding %  9 stolen bases against 4 caught stealing 10 double plays
Cal Lu .952 Fielding % 5 stolen bases against 2 caught 9 double plays


Will be a great series........Great Pitching/Defense vs Great Hitting. One of these teams will end up in the West Regional IMO.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on February 24, 2014, 11:16:39 AM
Does anyone know what happened to the Oxy pitcher from last year named Lalli?
He was a tall lefty freshman pitcher that looked like he was making good progress.
He is not on a roster this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Lets Play Two on February 24, 2014, 12:45:58 PM
Fox,

I believe he is on a 2-year Mormon mission
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on February 24, 2014, 02:11:11 PM
At least that's what I tell my wife when I stay out until 4 AM.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 24, 2014, 02:41:46 PM
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Will be a great series........Great Pitching/Defense vs Great Hitting. One of these teams will end up in the West Regional IMO.

Great pitching usually wins.....usually. ::)

Look what happened to the top offense in D3 baseball in the West Regional. Will be a spirited series and in the end will probably have something to do with seeding for the tournament. BTW I agree with Jack I just love league tournaments!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on February 24, 2014, 03:58:13 PM
I only love League tournaments when my team doesn't win the Regular season!
:)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on February 24, 2014, 05:11:07 PM
Quote from: Lets Play Two on February 24, 2014, 12:45:58 PM
Fox,

I believe he is on a 2-year Mormon mission
Thanks.
That was my guess when I saw he was from Utah.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 25, 2014, 08:00:29 PM
Looks like 100% rain for SoCal this weekend. It looks like all games will get rained out. When are the makeup days?
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-storms-weather-los-angeles-forecast-20140224,0,5553260.story#axzz2uOaNGKuo
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on February 27, 2014, 01:23:56 AM
They won't know or decide til Sat night but, weather permitting, the DH at CLU may be played on Sun and the solo game at Hart Park on Mon or Tues. Word is that McGee may get a start. Next weekend against CMS, Laverty will rotate 1 of the starters to the pen (probably Osaki) with Hanks getting a start. The big news from yesterday is that Richards (Fr/RHP) threw a bullpen. Last year, Richards was clocked in the low 90's before he got hurt. 14 months later, he may get some work next weekend. Happy for him. What a difference a year makes as CU may end up in April with a  slew of reliable arms. It almost looks like a 4 man rotation with a 2-headed closer (Watson/Richards?). Still a lot of questions to answer but CU is really starting to come together now.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on February 27, 2014, 11:47:19 AM
Quote from: Colorado on February 27, 2014, 01:23:56 AM
They won't know or decide til Sat night but, weather permitting, the DH at CLU may be played on Sun and the solo game at Hart Park on Mon or Tues. Word is that McGee may get a start. Next weekend against CMS, Laverty will rotate 1 of the starters to the pen (probably Osaki) with Hanks getting a start. The big news from yesterday is that Richards (Fr/RHP) threw a bullpen. Last year, Richards was clocked in the low 90's before he got hurt. 14 months later, he may get some work next weekend Happy for him. What a difference a year makes as CU may end up in April with a  slew of reliable arms. It almost looks like a 4 man rotation with a 2-headed closer (Watson/Richards?). Still a lot of questions to answer but CU is really starting to come together now.

CLU's scheduled Sunday 3/2 game vs Whitworth shows as cencelled on their website; freeing that up for the possible Sunday DH that Colorado suggested.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on February 28, 2014, 08:27:38 PM
Don't know about the rest of the conference but they just put out the word now that Sat's DH at CLU with Chapman was postponed. Earlier in the day, Laverty advised that they would play today's game on Sunday but I just got a text saying the DH will go on Sunday. Either way, I just saw a CBS forecast that says it looks like more rain on Sunday. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 28, 2014, 10:25:55 PM
There has been so much rain,  fields will be unplayable for a few days. Looking the the schedule it will tough to find a place to play the games that are postponed this weekend. I see some 6 games weeks somewhere in the future.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 01, 2014, 01:21:12 AM
Cal Lutheran Baseball: Last Updated Feb. 28 – 7:00 p.m. The first game, at Hart Park hosted by Chapman, of a weekend series with the Panthers was postponed. The SCIAC contest will be rescheduled at a later date, which has yet to be determined. A home Saturday double header is pushed back to Sunday, March 2, field conditions permitting, with first pitch slated for 11:00 a.m. at George "Sparky" Anderson Field inside of Ullman Stadium. -

See more at: http://www.clusports.com/baseball/news/10398/#sthash.618aWYkJ.dpuf
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 01, 2014, 08:06:27 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 28, 2014, 10:25:55 PM
There has been so much rain,  fields will be unplayable for a few days. Looking the the schedule it will tough to find a place to play the games that are postponed this weekend. I see some 6 games weeks somewhere in the future.

Most cold-weather programs play 6-7 games EVERY week. Should provide a gut-check for those warm-weather programs that may find their pitching thin as that is exactly what the post-season is about.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on March 02, 2014, 01:06:22 AM
So true, especially the way SCIAC schedules are set up with a single game on Friday and a double on Saturday.
Good chance to force coaches to check out their depth, in preparation for playoffs.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 02, 2014, 03:51:39 PM
Well lets see if Chapman has the pitching depth. In prior years they never did. Well this week 6 games over a 6 day timeframe. Same for all SCIAC teams. Could be a wild 6 days of baseball. Upsets are likely

http://stats.clusports.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/schedule

http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/schedule
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 02, 2014, 04:04:11 PM
Chapman at least can throw their 1 and 2 on the 3rd and have them available for the CMS double header on the 8th. Give some others the opportunity to show their stuff. I am sure they will focus on CLU and "come what may with CMS". Should be a good opportunity to stretch out the staff. Timing does not look too bad.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on March 02, 2014, 08:41:07 PM
PP and Redlands were able to squeeze two in today at Redlands. I don't know what condition the field was in, but that program generally keeps their field in fantastic shape so I'm not surprised they were able to play.

PP was back on form and took both, 11-7 game one and 14-4 in game two. Freshman Lane Miles had another great start in game two, which is very encouraging. Simon Rosenbaum had a monster day at the plate; 8 for 8 with 3 doubles, a home run, and 10 RBIs.

Defense had four total errors, so there's still that issue. 

They'll play the third game of the series tomorrow afternoon at Pomona.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SJSUPhil on March 02, 2014, 09:23:53 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on March 02, 2014, 08:41:07 PM
PP and Redlands were able to squeeze two in today at Redlands. I don't know what condition the field was in, but that program generally keeps their field in fantastic shape so I'm not surprised they were able to play.

PP was back on form and took both, 11-7 game one and 14-4 in game two. Freshman Lane Miles had another great start in game two, which is very encouraging. Simon Rosenbaum had a monster day at the plate; 8 for 8 with 3 doubles, a home run, and 10 RBIs.

Defense had four total errors, so there's still that issue. 

They'll play the third game of the series tomorrow afternoon at Pomona.

I'm glad they got the games in, but I wish the outcome was different. I think the SoCal skies are supposed to clear up tomorrow. :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 03, 2014, 12:16:34 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 02, 2014, 04:04:11 PM
Chapman at least can throw their 1 and 2 on the 3rd and have them available for the CMS double header on the 8th. Give some others the opportunity to show their stuff. I am sure they will focus on CLU and "come what may with CMS". Should be a good opportunity to stretch out the staff. Timing does not look too bad.

CLU at Chapman today (3/3) for one game.
Chapman at CLU Tues (3/4) for two games.

Having the DH on Tuesday means Sat games will be on 3 days rest;  It would've been better for both team pitching to play the DH today at CLU.   Pitching depth next weekend will be key.
I expect both CU and CLU to focus on the Game in front of them and let next weekend play out; as CU plays CMS and CLU plays Redlands.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2014, 12:48:02 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 03, 2014, 12:16:34 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 02, 2014, 04:04:11 PM
Chapman at least can throw their 1 and 2 on the 3rd and have them available for the CMS double header on the 8th. Give some others the opportunity to show their stuff. I am sure they will focus on CLU and "come what may with CMS". Should be a good opportunity to stretch out the staff. Timing does not look too bad.

CLU at Chapman today (3/3) for one game.
Chapman at CLU Tues (3/4) for two games.

Having the DH on Tuesday means Sat games will be on 3 days rest;  It would've been better for both team pitching to play the DH today at CLU.   Pitching depth next weekend will be key.
I expect both CU and CLU to focus on the Game in front of them and let next weekend play out; as CU plays CMS and CLU plays Redlands.
Does it have to be 3 days rest because they don't have the depth at pitcher?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 03, 2014, 01:01:26 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 03, 2014, 12:16:34 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 02, 2014, 04:04:11 PM
Chapman at least can throw their 1 and 2 on the 3rd and have them available for the CMS double header on the 8th. Give some others the opportunity to show their stuff. I am sure they will focus on CLU and "come what may with CMS". Should be a good opportunity to stretch out the staff. Timing does not look too bad.

CLU at Chapman today (3/3) for one game.
Chapman at CLU Tues (3/4) for two games.

Having the DH on Tuesday means Sat games will be on 3 days rest;  It would've been better for both team pitching to play the DH today at CLU.   Pitching depth next weekend will be key.
I expect both CU and CLU to focus on the Game in front of them and let next weekend play out; as CU plays CMS and CLU plays Redlands.

I don't mean disrespect from CMS or Redlands but judging by the way their seasons have gone so far I would say CLU and Chapman play their series like they would any other.  This might cause some high scoring games next weekend but the talent for Chapman and CLU is far superior to CMS and Redlands.  The CLU/Chapman series should be a darn good one with low scoring games in my opinion.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on March 03, 2014, 04:04:47 PM
For what its worth, my guess is that Osaki, Smith and possibly McGee will start for Chapman against CLU. Riddle and Hanks will start against CMS. I'm speculating that Connor Wiiliams may get a start against either CMS or Kean. Williams beat Kean last year. They are possibly using 11 pitchers for the next week of games and includes Richards in the pen. The 3 starting against CLU will be in the pen against CMS (and vice versa) so as to not overload any one guy. Watson, Molnar and Vietze who have done pretty well in a limited bullpen role probably will get more innings. CU should come out if it ok and then be ready for Pomona Pitzer the following week with the main guys fully rested.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 03, 2014, 07:06:58 PM
Just put on the CLU/Chapman game on the side here working. CU throws out runner at home top 4.  Score is 3 -1 Chapman bottom 4.

Don't know if they know it but some of the CLU parents sound pretty trashy on the audio feed. Note to self: Keep your mouth shut when a live mike is around.  I guess they don't have anyone announcing game at Chapman.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 03, 2014, 07:35:28 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 03, 2014, 07:06:58 PM
Just put on the CLU/Chapman game on the side here working. CU throws out runner at home top 4.  Score is 3 -1 Chapman bottom 4.

Don't know if they know it but some of the CLU parents sound pretty trashy on the audio feed. Note to self: Keep your mouth shut when a live mike is around.  I guess they don't have anyone announcing game at Chapman.

I noticed the same thing.

CLU 4-3 going into the bottom of fourth; then CU tied it up while I'm typing.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tkoons7 on March 04, 2014, 12:34:52 AM
Hey everyone,

I'm new to the boards here after recently graduating from cal lu. Just an update on the game if you haven't heard, CLU takes game 1 with a 7-4 score with a late inning rally. Looking forward to the double header tomorrow at CLU.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on March 04, 2014, 01:39:12 AM
And Pomona-Pitzer (5-9, 4-5 in SCIAC) drops game 3 to Redlands (5-9, 5-4 SCIAC) by a score of 17-10. Apparently Redlands came out swinging and just never stopped.

For UR:
Hancock: 4 for 6 with 2 HRs and 3RBIs
Scalisi: 4 for 5 with 3 runs
Hardman 3 for 5 with a HR, 2B and 3 RBIs
Dresner and Shiewe each had three hits as well

For PP:
Rosenbaum: 3-4 with a HR, 2 RBIs. Puts him at 11 for 12 on the series with 2HRs and 12 RBIs.
Nishioka: 3 for 5 with 3 RBIs.

PP adds 3 errors and 5 unearned runs to their totals for the year. They've got a .341 BAA and still lingering at a .935 Fielding %.
It seems like they're in a similar boat with Redlands. Both teams are hitting well but have bloated ERAs (UR at 6.39, PP at 7.01). If nothing else, it makes for exciting games.

As Mr. Koons mentioned (welcome!), CLU beats Chapman 7-4 and will play two tomorrow.
Oxy split at CMS yesterday and won the rubber match today at home 4-3.
ULV beat up Cal Tech today, looks like they still need to get another game (or two?) in tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on March 04, 2014, 01:41:51 AM
Saw CLU's Peterson for the first time. Impressed. The boy can square up and hit. Strong arm but if I was scouting him, I'd give him a look as a position player. He's much more developed as a hitter. Still, CU's lineup couldn't throw the knockout punches when they had the chance(s) which is a credit to him. CU used Riddle in relief today which likely means McGee will start Tuesday in the DH with Smith.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 04, 2014, 02:04:31 AM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on March 04, 2014, 01:39:12 AM
And Pomona-Pitzer (5-9, 4-5 in SCIAC) drops game 3 to Redlands (5-9, 5-4 SCIAC) by a score of 17-10. Apparently Redlands came out swinging and just never stopped.

For UR:
Hancock: 4 for 6 with 2 HRs and 3RBIs
Scalisi: 4 for 5 with 3 runs
Hardman 3 for 5 with a HR, 2B and 3 RBIs
Dresner and Shiewe each had three hits as well

For PP:
Rosenbaum: 3-4 with a HR, 2 RBIs. Puts him at 11 for 12 on the series with 2HRs and 12 RBIs.
Nishioka: 3 for 5 with 3 RBIs.

PP adds 3 errors and 5 unearned runs to their totals for the year. They've got a .341 BAA and still lingering at a .935 Fielding %.
It seems like they're in a similar boat with Redlands. Both teams are hitting well but have bloated ERAs (UR at 6.39, PP at 7.01). If nothing else, it makes for exciting games.

As Mr. Koons mentioned (welcome!), CLU beats Chapman 7-4 and will play two tomorrow.
Oxy split at CMS yesterday and won the rubber match today at home 4-3.
ULV beat up Cal Tech today, looks like they still need to get another game (or two?) in tomorrow.

I don't think it's Pomona's year.  It really seems like they are in desperate need of a 3rd starter.  I'm not sure if Rosenbaum is going to pitch this year but they should be pretty well off next year with Bruml, Rosenbaum and Miles.  Their hitting will keep them in game but they need to get the defense under control.  Like I said, I sure wouldn't count them out but time is running a little short.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 04, 2014, 02:05:26 AM
Quote from: Colorado on March 04, 2014, 01:41:51 AM
Saw CLU's Peterson for the first time. Impressed. The boy can square up and hit. Strong arm but if I was scouting him, I'd give him a look as a position player. He's much more developed as a hitter. Still, CU's lineup couldn't throw the knockout punches when they had the chance(s) which is a credit to him. CU used Riddle in relief today which likely means McGee will start Tuesday in the DH with Smith.

Sounds like both teams had plenty of chance but CLU got the clutch hit.  Should be a great double-dip tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 04, 2014, 05:46:20 AM
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/standings
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 04, 2014, 09:10:33 AM
Whittier leads the SCIAC. Enjoy the view at the top, as it won't be long.  ;)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on March 04, 2014, 12:10:16 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 04, 2014, 02:04:31 AM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on March 04, 2014, 01:39:12 AM
And Pomona-Pitzer (5-9, 4-5 in SCIAC) drops game 3 to Redlands (5-9, 5-4 SCIAC) by a score of 17-10. Apparently Redlands came out swinging and just never stopped.

For UR:
Hancock: 4 for 6 with 2 HRs and 3RBIs
Scalisi: 4 for 5 with 3 runs
Hardman 3 for 5 with a HR, 2B and 3 RBIs
Dresner and Shiewe each had three hits as well

For PP:
Rosenbaum: 3-4 with a HR, 2 RBIs. Puts him at 11 for 12 on the series with 2HRs and 12 RBIs.
Nishioka: 3 for 5 with 3 RBIs.

PP adds 3 errors and 5 unearned runs to their totals for the year. They've got a .341 BAA and still lingering at a .935 Fielding %.
It seems like they're in a similar boat with Redlands. Both teams are hitting well but have bloated ERAs (UR at 6.39, PP at 7.01). If nothing else, it makes for exciting games.

As Mr. Koons mentioned (welcome!), CLU beats Chapman 7-4 and will play two tomorrow.
Oxy split at CMS yesterday and won the rubber match today at home 4-3.
ULV beat up Cal Tech today, looks like they still need to get another game (or two?) in tomorrow.

I don't think it's Pomona's year.  It really seems like they are in desperate need of a 3rd starter.  I'm not sure if Rosenbaum is going to pitch this year but they should be pretty well off next year with Bruml, Rosenbaum and Miles.  Their hitting will keep them in game but they need to get the defense under control.  Like I said, I sure wouldn't count them out but time is running a little short.

Rosenbaum is still recovering from Tommy John and won't be used on the mound this year. There is a chance that Cameron Yen, who was 3-1 with a 3.35 ERA in 6 starts before getting hurt last year, will be back by the end of the season. If they can't hang in until then, though, it would probably be smart not to rush him back and continue to develop younger arms in the meantime.

Side note- I noticed yesterday that Coach P, only in his 12th year with Pomona, is just five wins away from 300 for his career. This may be a down year, but he's done an amazing job with the program. I wouldn't be surprised if they turn it around a bit this year and sneak into the playoffs, and I certainly think they'll be strong next year once the arms are healthy.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 05, 2014, 01:09:05 AM
Good series win by Cal Lu.  Looks like they got thumped in the first game than came back with a complete game shutout in the rubber match.  I don't think too many Chapman teams have been shutout like that.

It will be interesting to see how the pitching holds up for both teams with so few days between series.  I still say both sweep this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on March 05, 2014, 09:45:46 AM
That's the 1st shutout but honestly, they have been shackled a few times now. CU's lineup has that Dr Jekyll- Mr Hyde thing going on. When they win, they look like murders row and average 11 runs per game which. When they lose, they are averaging a run or 2 per game which is about half their games. It could get better but Offensively, they're probably not as productive  as their stats suggest. The Nos. 8 and 9 hitters are having terrific seasons with their glove, and in a conference schedule that leans in CU's favor til the conference tourney, the temptation is to just keep things the way they are. But the CLU series exposed CU's need for The Big Hit against a play off calibre opponent. They got a few but overall left a lotta of scoring opps on the bases. I'm just another dumb fan but Getting lefty Matt Gandy more at bats would be 1 option. The senior homered yesterday in a rare start but seems to be wasted in his role as first pinch hitter off the bench.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 05, 2014, 10:09:10 AM
My takeaway from the series is that CLU will be fine offensively and that their pitching will keep them in most games. 4 errors in 3 games is OK. They are the best team in the SCIAC at the moment.

Chapman competed and will continue to develop and will likely be the two seed in the SCIAC tournament and will continue to improve as the season progresses. End of season games are all about pitching and defense and getting a hit in a critical situation, their pitching will continue to develop since they have so many guys coming back from injury. Time will tell regarding the offense.

Both teams can expect to see each other again at the end of the season and in reality the rest of the season is for both teams to get ready for the SCIAC tournament, it is probably more important for CLU to keep winning to keep up their in region ranking just in case they lose the conference tournament so they are in the running for an at large bid, CU will have to beat them to make it to  Mc Minnville IMO.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 05, 2014, 11:20:44 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 05, 2014, 10:09:10 AM
My takeaway from the series is that CLU will be fine offensively and that their pitching will keep them in most games. 4 errors in 3 games is OK. They are the best team in the SCIAC at the moment.

Chapman competed and will continue to develop and will likely be the two seed in the SCIAC tournament and will continue to improve as the season progresses. End of season games are all about pitching and defense and getting a hit in a critical situation, their pitching will continue to develop since they have so many guys coming back from injury. Time will tell regarding the offense.

Both teams can expect to see each other again at the end of the season and in reality the rest of the season is for both teams to get ready for the SCIAC tournament, it is probably more important for CLU to keep winning to keep up their in region ranking just in case they lose the conference tournament so they are in the running for an at large bid, CU will have to beat them to make it to  Mc Minnville IMO.

108:  Good assessment.  I agree with the need for CLU to keep Regional Ranking strong as possible.  We know that in a Conf Tourney, it just takes on off-day or one Hot pitcher to offset a Regular Season conference title.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 07, 2014, 10:39:30 AM
My picks for the weekend...

Chapman sweeps Claremont.  I see Chapman as the #2 team in the SCIAC and it really isn't close.  Chapman has plenty of pitching to come back after a short week.
Oxy sweeps Cal Tech but maybe closer than expected in a few games.
CLU sweeps Redlands.  Maybe a few high scoring games but Redland's pitching cant hold down CLU's bats. 
Pomona wins 2/3 from Whittier.  That 3rd game of the series really hasn't gone well for Pomona this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on March 08, 2014, 08:17:18 AM
Chapman prevails over CMS 5-1. SP Braden Riddle picks up his 3rd win and Osaki gets his first save in a short stint out of the bullpen. Redlands shocks CLU with a 7-5 win, with the real surprise being that they started Peterson on 3 days short rest; and he  gave up 7 runs and 10 hits. In a contrast of approaches, CU starts Hanks  today in the CMS twin bill and on Monday, gives closer Tabor Watson the nod against Kean, the 5th and 6th different pitcher to start over a 7-game/8-day stretch. It may not result in more "W's" but it's got to be a lot easier on the boy's arms.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 08, 2014, 09:45:18 AM
These stretches of a lot of games compressed mid season are a great opportunity to flesh out and build your bullpen for later in the season when you need a lot of pitching in conference tournament play or the regionals. Personally I prefer the Chapman approach as they will be a better team for it, even if you lose a game, you have pitchers with experience in meaningful situations come the end of the season.

On the other hand Petersen is such a stud it is hard not to put the ball in his hand, but if it was me I would have waited for the last game of the series to give him additional rest and see if you would need him at all.

Makes today's games more interesting and us something to talk about.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 09, 2014, 03:14:15 AM
I am thinking that the teams in the SCIAC will start taking Whittier a bit more seriously now.....
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 09, 2014, 03:58:32 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 09, 2014, 03:14:15 AM
I am thinking that the teams in the SCIAC will start taking Whittier a bit more seriously now.....

Nah, I still think Whittier is the 6tb/7th best team in the SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 09, 2014, 12:50:00 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 08, 2014, 09:45:18 AM
These stretches of a lot of games compressed mid season are a great opportunity to flesh out and build your bullpen for later in the season when you need a lot of pitching in conference tournament play or the regionals. Personally I prefer the Chapman approach as they will be a better team for it, even if you lose a game, you have pitchers with experience in meaningful situations come the end of the season.

On the other hand Petersen is such a stud it is hard not to put the ball in his hand, but if it was me I would have waited for the last game of the series to give him additional rest and see if you would need him at all.

Makes today's games more interesting and us something to talk about.

Hebda and Peters both had strong outings on 3 days rest; resulting in CLU wins.  Peters threw his second shutout in 4 days. 
CLU offense was in high gear Sat with contributions from almost everybatter.  Gunter (.579), Petersen (.571), Crowl (.415) and DellaValle (.391) lead this potent lineup. (4 other starters hitting > .350).  They have definitely answered the pre-season questioning about whether they had this years team could hit like the 2013 team.

With CLU it looks like pitching will decide their outcome.   All three starters have what it takes to shut down the opposition, but they have each had off outings.  Scott Peters look strong, his ERA is down to 1.33 after two shutouts pf Chapman and Redlands this week.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 10, 2014, 12:29:05 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 09, 2014, 03:14:15 AM
I am thinking that the teams in the SCIAC will start taking Whittier a bit more seriously now.....

Looking at the preseason expectations, Whittier sweeping PP was definitely unexpected.
PP hasn't performed as expected, giving up too many unearned runs!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 10, 2014, 10:55:48 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 10, 2014, 12:29:05 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 09, 2014, 03:14:15 AM
I am thinking that the teams in the SCIAC will start taking Whittier a bit more seriously now.....

Looking at the preseason expectations, Whittier sweeping PP was definitely unexpected.
PP hasn't performed as expected, giving up too many unearned runs!
Whitter has swept Pomona and Claremont. They could surprise some team.

Chapman has losses to teams they should have swept with Occidental and Claremont.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on March 11, 2014, 12:14:24 AM
Chapman over Kean (NJ) 6-2.
Box score and write-up at:
www.chapmanathletics.com
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on March 11, 2014, 01:29:38 AM
Just got back from the Kean-Chapman game. The atmosphere in this game between old intersectional rivals was absolutely electric. Felt like the old days again. Nice win for the Panthers as closer Tabor Watson in maybe his first start for CU went all the way to beat Kean on a 4-hitter. Kean's Thielmann pitched well for 4 innings but looked like he tired in the 5th and surprisingly, they left him in to give up 6 runs and 10 hits over the last 4 . No one was warming up until the 8th after the damage was done. They've played a lot of games lately so maybe they ran out of pitchers.  Watson was never really threatened as Kean had trouble getting guys on base (4 hits, no walks). David Bason, batting 9th for CU and known as a great glove guy, was the batting hero for CU as he smacked 2 hits, knocked in 2 RBI's including the GWRBI in the pivotal 7th inning. How big of a factor is SOS in getting a Pool C bid because if its still part of the criteria, we at CU certainly hope Kean wins the rest of their regular season games.   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 11, 2014, 01:31:36 AM
Wow. A great win for the Panthers.  I have seen almost everyone one of the Chapman-Kean games over the years but did not see this gem.

Panther pitchers and catchers have had some great games over the year vs Kean.

This shows what the team is capable of doing. I still  believe that Chapman must win the SCIAC conference tourney if they want to play in Regionals this year. Never count on getting a very tough Pool C bid. I expect a Pool C out of the NWC conference and only the Pool A bid for SCIAC, SCAC, ASC. But I could be wrong, since Chapman has played ranked teams(Cal Lutheran, Kean, Trinity) that will help their SOS if these teams continue to play well as expected but they really need a high D3 winning percentage/Regional Winning percentage for a Pool C bid in 2014 also IMO.

Did they Chapman find another dominant starting pitcher in Watson??? Several years ago, Devin Drag would start and close games in the same season for the Panthers.

Panthers if they play up to their ability should sweep Pomona like they did with La Verne. No more Occidental games/CMS game type losses.

Team ERA is now at 3.06 and opp BA is at an unbelievable .205. A very good pitching staff.

Panthers lead the SCIAC in Team ERA and Fielding % but is only 5th in batting average, Slugging % and OBA. Hitting needs to pick up if they want to get to McMinnville, Oregon in May.

https://chapman.prestosports.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/201403119d2mu0#.Ux6d0KLjhXk.facebook
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on March 11, 2014, 02:59:11 AM
This was a game Crash would've liked. Kean's bench came out chippy and all it seemed to do was fire up Chapman. This was the noisiest I have heard Chapman's dugout get since those bunch of characters on the 2011 squad that went to Appleton.  In looking at how CU did during the weather-induced crunch of the last week, they went 4-3. They blew 2 leads and a chance to go 6-1 but their pitching got through it without really taxing any one guy on the staff. Watson was a staff saver by going 9 but they still had a rested Molnar and Hahn to bring in early, and they had Osaki warming up in the 9th just in case. Didn't need him though and that frees him up to start on Friday against Pomona Pitzer followed by Smith and Riddle or McGee or Watson.  PostScript: pitching coach Edwards missed the Cal Lu series because of health reasons and came back this past weekend. Eddie calls the pitches. Cal Lu scored 22 runs in 3 games. Kean/CMS scored 8 while  playing in 1 more game. Of course, it's not just Eddie but it makes you wonder what might have happened.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 11, 2014, 03:31:20 AM
I have seen EPIC battles between Kean-Chapman over the years from 2006 to 2012.

There was a game the Kean coach and fans went after ex Chapman players in the stands at Hart Park.

The screaming by Kean coaches and single fan at the 3rd base umpire in Appleton the whole game after their runner was called out after leaving early.

Unbelievable pitching and hitting performance by players on both sides. The several times they have faced off against each other in Appleton over the years.

The Kean bench in Appleton with all its rituals with bats pregame and white powder they threw in the air with rushing towards the front of the dugout with screaming during the opening pitch after a game started late in the evening due to rain delays in Appleton.

Former Chapman players giving the Kean catcher a bad time the whole game at Hart Park.

This is an intense rivalry West vs East. There is no love loss between these schools. They plain don't like each other and love to win this game. I really missed a good game it sounds like

Check out games from prior years http://keanathletics.com/sports/bsb/archives/sportarchive
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 13, 2014, 11:59:18 PM
My predictions for the SCIAC this weekend.

Chapman takes 2 of 3 from P-P. Not sure if Chapman is good enough of P-P is bad enough for a sweep, but it could happen.

CLU sweeps Occidental. O could sneak a game.

Lavern takes 2 of 3 from CMS. Does it matter?

Whittier takes 2 of 3 from Redlands. Does the magic continue?

Caltech: How is the Mars lander doing?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 14, 2014, 11:54:15 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 13, 2014, 11:59:18 PM
My predictions for the SCIAC this weekend.

Chapman takes 2 of 3 from P-P. Not sure if Chapman is good enough of P-P is bad enough for a sweep, but it could happen.

CLU sweeps Occidental. O could sneak a game.

Lavern takes 2 of 3 from CMS. Does it matter?

Whittier takes 2 of 3 from Redlands. Does the magic continue?

Caltech: How is the Mars lander doing?

Chapman sweep wouldn't surprise me.   Even though PP is scoring 6.9 runs per game vs Chapman 6.6... they give away too many unearned runs.
PP has 46 errors in 18games.  They have given up 59 unearned runs (3.3/game)  Chapman only gives up 4.05 runs per game. 

CLU should sweep Occidential; Occidental gives up on 5.2 runs per game, but that is skewed by having played CMS and Cal Tech.  Occi only scores 4.7 runs per game; and even though on "any given day"... it would be a surprise if they took a game from CLU.

Whittier is 6 games up on Redlands in the loss column.  Taking 2 or 3 will go a long way toward ensuring they finish in the top 4.

If Occi loses all 3 to CLU; and Redlands loses series to Whittier, LaVerne needs to sweep CMS to jump ahead of Occi and Redlands for 4th place.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 14, 2014, 12:28:13 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 13, 2014, 11:59:18 PM
My predictions for the SCIAC this weekend.


Chapman takes 2 of 3 from P-P. Not sure if Chapman is good enough of P-P is bad enough for a sweep, but it could happen.

CLU sweeps Occidental. O could sneak a game.

Lavern takes 2 of 3 from CMS. Does it matter?

Whittier takes 2 of 3 from Redlands. Does the magic continue?

Caltech: How is the Mars lander doing?
My predictions   ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Chapman 2 of 3 over PP. Chapman has not proven they can sweep all teams. Ex Occidental and CMS. Is PP better or worse than these teams. Chapman has great defense and very good pitching but hitting can disappear at times.

Whittier sweep over Redlands..This will wake up people and prove Whittier is for real

CLU sweeps Occidental. Too much firepower in the CLU bats for Occidental.

La Verne sweeps CMS - battle for the bottom above Cal Tech

Cal Tech - Need to go to Club baseball or 100% Intermural sports. Sorry guys they really need to leave DIII and SCIAC....Throw the arrows now.

TOP teams in SCIAC
Cal Lu
Whittier
Chapman
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 14, 2014, 12:44:51 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 13, 2014, 11:59:18 PM
My predictions for the SCIAC this weekend.

Chapman takes 2 of 3 from P-P. Not sure if Chapman is good enough of P-P is bad enough for a sweep, but it could happen.

CLU sweeps Occidental. O could sneak a game.

Lavern takes 2 of 3 from CMS. Does it matter?

Whittier takes 2 of 3 from Redlands. Does the magic continue?

Caltech: How is the Mars lander doing?

Chaman gets 2-3 from Pomona.  I think Pomona is the 2nd best, if not the best, hitting team in the SCIAC.  Chapman's pitching is pretty quality but they got knocked around a little by CLU, another good hitting team.

I don'tsee Oxy scoring enough runs to take a game against CLU.  Oxy's pitching should keep them in games but their bats will be held down.

I think La Verne sweeps and gets on a roll.

I also think Whittier sweeps Redlands.  Redlands has not pitched well at all and they would be lucky to sneak out a win.

Cal Tech- bye week so I'll count it as a win for them.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 14, 2014, 05:37:39 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 14, 2014, 12:44:51 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 13, 2014, 11:59:18 PM
My predictions for the SCIAC this weekend.

Chapman takes 2 of 3 from P-P. Not sure if Chapman is good enough of P-P is bad enough for a sweep, but it could happen.

CLU sweeps Occidental. O could sneak a game.

Lavern takes 2 of 3 from CMS. Does it matter?

Whittier takes 2 of 3 from Redlands. Does the magic continue?

Caltech: How is the Mars lander doing?

Chaman gets 2-3 from Pomona.  I think Pomona is the 2nd best, if not the best, hitting team in the SCIAC.  Chapman's pitching is pretty quality but they got knocked around a little by CLU, another good hitting team.

I don'tsee Oxy scoring enough runs to take a game against CLU.  Oxy's pitching should keep them in games but their bats will be held down.

I think La Verne sweeps and gets on a roll.

I also think Whittier sweeps Redlands.  Redlands has not pitched well at all and they would be lucky to sneak out a win.

Cal Tech- bye week so I'll count it as a win for them.
Good job. You match my predictions also. Problem is I would lose a bet with 1 horse race.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 14, 2014, 08:08:56 PM
Looking at LiveStats update:

Cal Lu won the first game against Occidental,  4-1.   Occidental held them to 6 hits, but Petersen was better, limiting Occidental to 2 hits in the 6th inning.

Cal Lu definitely poised to sweep series as they have home DH tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 15, 2014, 12:33:54 AM
I guess i blew the Whittier game prejdiction
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 15, 2014, 08:32:58 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 15, 2014, 12:33:54 AM
I guess i blew the Whittier game prejdiction

Winner winner NO chicken dinner.....
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 15, 2014, 12:33:01 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 15, 2014, 12:33:54 AM
I guess i blew the Whittier game prejdiction

"They are who we thought they were"- Dennis Green

Pretty impressive day by Redlands.  The kid that pitched has beat Cal Lu and Whittier the past 2 weeks.

Not much pitching but plenty of hitting at Pomona.  Not much hitting but plenty of pitching at Oxy.
Claremont almost took one from La Verne but I think this weekend could help get La Verne on a roll.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on March 15, 2014, 04:59:34 PM
Talk about winning ugly. Chapman just beat PP (7-6) after winning yesterday (11-10). Both wins were of the late inning "come from behind" variety. PP has a number of good hitters in that line up but no matter how many hits they string together or runs they piled on, you never get a sense that they've got the game in hand.  That pitching, while good in spots, can't seem to get that big out when they need it. Twice now, they have blown 8th inning leads after putting on their own exciting comebacks. I'm always reading into these things but its The sort of thing that can drive you batty if you are a Sagehen fan.   In The last 2 games, CU's offense has bailed out its more heralded pitching staff (except for Sr. Travis McGee who was excellent). Sr. Matt Gandy who sat on the bench for a month before breaking into the line up, hammered a dramatic 3 run blast to win yesterday's game and today, Sr. Mark Saatzer, the 4 year starting 1B, lashed out a 2-out, bases loaded  single to drive in 2 (and GWRBI).  McGee threw his best game of the year (7IP 4H 2R and 10K) but got a ND for his effort. Smith is the "probable" for today's 2d game
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on March 16, 2014, 05:40:20 AM
Eyewitness report from Thousand Oaks:

Cal Lutheran 4, Oxy 3

Took in the first game of the doubleheader on Saturday. Beautiful warm clear breezy day at CLU.

Oxy scored in the first on an error on a wind-blown popup.

CLU tied it up 1-1 in the 4th on what was scored an RBI double by Davey Casciola.

Oxy came into the game hitting .215 as a team, but CLU kept the Tigers in the game by employing weird strategy. In the bottom of the 5th Nick Cohan walked. Kyle Sanchez, batting .380, was asked to sacrifice with Jake Petersen, batting .500, on deck. Sanchez bunted into a force play and Petersen and Ramsey Abushahla struck out. CLU hits .350 as a team. Why Marty Slimak had a .380 hitter bunting in the 5th with the game tied and no outs and a man on first is anyone's guess. When you play for one run then you only get one run, or perhaps no runs.

The Kingsmen took a 3-1 lead in the bottom of the 7th on RBI singles by Sanchez and Abushahla sandwiched around Petersen being tossed for being a big baby after striking out looking.

Oxy rallied nicely in the 9th. Back-to-back 2-out RBI singles by Johnathan Brooks and Atherton Kniseley tied it 3-3. But in the bottom of the 9th with 2 outs Sanchez reached on a matador olé error by second baseman Walker Marks. Sanchez then stole second and went to third on a bad throw by catcher Victor Munoz. On the next pitch Atherton Kniseley singled up the middle and CLU got the win.

Tyler Hebda pitched 6 strong innings for CLU, only allowing 1 unearned run and 3 hits. Aaron Roth got the win despite giving up the tying runs in the 9th.

Mitch Margolis went 6-1/3 for Oxy and was charged with 3 earned runs. David Feasler took the loss.

CLU is 12-4, 9-3 SCIAC. Oxy is 9-11, 7-5.

OxyBob

P.S. I should have stayed around for the second game. Oxy had 18 hits and routed the Kingsmen 11-2. Nolan Watson gave up 2 ER on 4 hits and got the win.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 16, 2014, 11:55:40 AM
Another interesting weekend in the SCIAC:

Whittier drops 2 of 3, CLU gets smoked by Oxy but wins 2 of 3, Chapman and Pomona destroy each others pitching, La Verne struggles with Claremont....

SCIAC Standing:

1. Whittier         10-2  Have played the bottom 4 teams in the conference so far, hardest remaining schedule.
2. CLU               9-3  Still to play Cal Tech and CMS and big weekends with Whittier and La Verne
3. Chapman      10-5 Redlands, Cal Tech and Whittier left...only 1 or 2 more losses, can't seem to sweep anyone
4. Oxy               7-5  Still to play Whittier, Redlands, La Verne and Pomona.  Not too dificult but not too easy
5. La Verne       6-5 (7-5) Still have 1 with Cal Tech and regular weekends with Pomona, Whittier, Oxy and CLU
6. Redlands      8-7  Have been able to beat CLU and Whittier in consecutive weeks.  Chapman, Oxy and CMS left
7. Pomona        5-10  These guys have scored a ton of runs but their pitching has been really brutal. La Verne, Cal Tech and Oxy left
8. CMS              4-11  Got 1 from La Verne but not much too be excited about.  Still have CLU, Redlands and Cal Tech
9. Cal Tech       0-11  Still have 1 with La Verne, CLU, Pomona, Chapman and CMS.

Without a doubt the hardest schedule the rest of the way is Whittier and this is how I see each team finishing.

1. CLU finished 19-5
2. Chapman finishes 17-7
3. Whittier finishes 15-9
4. La Verne finishes 14-10
5. Oxy finishes 13-11
6. Redlands finishes 12-12
7. Pomona finishes 10-14
8. CMS finishes 8-16
9. Cal Tech finishes 0-24

And as I write this I remember that there are round-robin games at the end of the year that will throw all of this out of line.  I could easily see Oxy in the top 4 and I think it's a 6 team race for the top 4 spots and an extra weekend in the Conference Tourney.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 16, 2014, 05:50:36 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 16, 2014, 11:55:40 AM
Another interesting weekend in the SCIAC:

Whittier drops 2 of 3, CLU gets smoked by Oxy but wins 2 of 3, Chapman and Pomona destroy each others pitching, La Verne struggles with Claremont....

SCIAC Standing:

1. Whittier         10-2  Have played the bottom 4 teams in the conference so far, hardest remaining schedule.
2. CLU               9-3  Still to play Cal Tech and CMS and big weekends with Whittier and La Verne
3. Chapman      10-5 Redlands, Cal Tech and Whittier left...only 1 or 2 more losses, can't seem to sweep anyone
4. Oxy               7-5  Still to play Whittier, Redlands, La Verne and Pomona.  Not too dificult but not too easy
5. La Verne       6-5 (7-5) Still have 1 with Cal Tech and regular weekends with Pomona, Whittier, Oxy and CLU
6. Redlands      8-7  Have been able to beat CLU and Whittier in consecutive weeks.  Chapman, Oxy and CMS left
7. Pomona        5-10  These guys have scored a ton of runs but their pitching has been really brutal. La Verne, Cal Tech and Oxy left
8. CMS              4-11  Got 1 from La Verne but not much to be excited about.  Still have CLU, Redlands and Cal Tech
9. Cal Tech       0-11  Still have 1 with La Verne, CLU, Pomona, Chapman and CMS.

Without a doubt the hardest schedule the rest of the way is Whittier and this is how I see each team finishing.

1. CLU finished 19-5
2. Chapman finishes 17-7
3. Whittier finishes 15-9
4. La Verne finishes 14-10
5. Oxy finishes 13-11
6. Redlands finishes 12-12
7. Pomona finishes 10-14
8. CMS finishes 8-16
9. Cal Tech finishes 0-24

And as I write this I remember that there are round-robin games at the end of the year that will throw all of this out of line.  I could easily see Oxy in the top 4 and I think it's a 6 team race for the top 4 spots and an extra weekend in the Conference Tourney.
Looks good to me. I predict CLU will win the conference tourney with their big bats and get the Pool A bid.. Chapman pitching certain has regressed this last weekend giving up 26 runs over 3 games.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 17, 2014, 05:17:43 PM
What is the format for the SCIAC Conference Tournament?

How many teams?

Single or Double Elimination

How many days? 3??

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 17, 2014, 06:09:20 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 17, 2014, 05:17:43 PM
What is the format for the SCIAC Conference Tournament?

How many teams?

Single or Double Elimination

How many days? 3??

I'll look for this years bracket to confirm:

In 2013:   
4 teams, double elimination.
Games 1 & 2 on Friday
Games 3, 4 &5 on Sat
Games 6, and if necessary, 7 on Sunday


2014 Dates for SCIAC championship:   May 2nd - 4th
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 17, 2014, 06:55:33 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 16, 2014, 11:55:40 AM

Without a doubt the hardest schedule the rest of the way is Whittier and this is how I see each team finishing.

1. CLU finished 19-5
2. Chapman finishes 17-7
3. Whittier finishes 15-9
4. La Verne finishes 14-10
5. Oxy finishes 13-11
6. Redlands finishes 12-12
7. Pomona finishes 10-14
8. CMS finishes 8-16
9. Cal Tech finishes 0-24

And as I write this I remember that there are round-robin games at the end of the year that will throw all of this out of line.  I could easily see Oxy in the top 4 and I think it's a 6 team race for the top 4 spots and an extra weekend in the Conference Tourney.

Yes, the regular season ends with 4 Round Robin games from Wed, Apr 23 to Tue, Apr 29th.   I'm sure they have the matchup format created and possibly published, but I can't find it on the SCIAC website.   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Lets Play Two on March 18, 2014, 01:21:06 PM
SCIAC Round Robin Schedule (All teams are seeded following the last game on 4/19)

4/23/14

1st @ 8th
2nd @ 9th
3rd @ 7th

4/26/14

9th @ 4
2nd @ 4th

7th @ 5th
3rd @ 5th

8th @ 6th
1st @ 6th

4/27/14

5th @ 1st
9th @ 1st

6th @ 2nd
7th @ 2nd

4th @ 3rd
8th @ 3rd

4/29/14

5th @ 9th
6th @ 7th
4th @ 8th
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 18, 2014, 01:43:21 PM
Quote from: Lets Play Two on March 18, 2014, 01:21:06 PM
SCIAC Round Robin Schedule (All teams are seeded following the last game on 4/19)

4/23/14

1st @ 8th
2nd @ 9th
3rd @ 7th

4/26/14

9th @ 4
2nd @ 4th

7th @ 5th
3rd @ 5th

8th @ 6th
1st @ 6th

4/27/14

5th @ 1st
9th @ 1st

6th @ 2nd
7th @ 2nd

4th @ 3rd
8th @ 3rd

4/29/14

5th @ 9th
6th @ 7th
4th @ 8th
Takes a Cal Tech guy to come up with this schedule for a 9 team Round Robin limited to 4 games. Hurts my brain trying to figure out how all teams get 4 games.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 18, 2014, 01:51:59 PM
I don't get it.

Who wins? Run differential?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on March 18, 2014, 02:11:33 PM
The round robin games don't culminate in a winner, as I understand it.  The 9 SCIAC teams are seeded after they have played their "weekend series" portion of the conference schedule.  Then, each team plays these four additional round robin games based on their seeding.  After these round robin games, the top four teams in the overall season standings proceed to the SCIAC Tournament.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 18, 2014, 02:35:43 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on March 18, 2014, 02:11:33 PM
The round robin games don't culminate in a winner, as I understand it.  The 9 SCIAC teams are seeded after they have played their "weekend series" portion of the conference schedule.  Then, each team plays these four additional round robin games based on their seeding.  After these round robin games, the top four teams in the overall season standings proceed to the SCIAC Tournament.
Thanks for this information. I always scratched  my head trying to determine format but now it is clear.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 18, 2014, 02:55:10 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on March 18, 2014, 02:11:33 PM
The round robin games don't culminate in a winner, as I understand it.  The 9 SCIAC teams are seeded after they have played their "weekend series" portion of the conference schedule.  Then, each team plays these four additional round robin games based on their seeding.  After these round robin games, the top four teams in the overall season standings proceed to the SCIAC Tournament.

Yes, that's exactly correct.  These are the last four games of the regular season. 

- #1 plays 5,6,8,9:   They control their destiny and have easiest games
- #2 plays 4,6,7,9:   They don't control their destiny for #1
- #3 plays 4,5,7,8:   They don't control their destiny for #1 or 2
- #4 plays 2,3,8,9:   Which definitely gives #4 a chance to improve their ranking for SCIAC Tourney if they can beat 2&3
- #5 plays 1,3,7,9:   Assuming the middle stays close (+/- 1 game), needs to win 3 or 4 to have chance to pass #4 into the SCIAC Tourney
- #6 plays 1,2,7,8:

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 18, 2014, 03:29:09 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 16, 2014, 11:55:40 AM
Another interesting weekend in the SCIAC:

Whittier drops 2 of 3, CLU gets smoked by Oxy but wins 2 of 3, Chapman and Pomona destroy each others pitching, La Verne struggles with Claremont....

SCIAC Standing:

1. Whittier         10-2  Have played the bottom 4 teams in the conference so far, hardest remaining schedule.

Without a doubt the hardest schedule the rest of the way is Whittier and this is how I see each team finishing.

Nice to see Whittier at the top of the standings.  This should give them some confidence in the second half of the season.

My thought is about they "have played the bottom 4 teams in the conference so far".  Either they are in the top of the standings because they played the bottom teams, or the teams are in the bottom since they played Whittier.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 18, 2014, 05:30:02 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on March 18, 2014, 03:29:09 PM
My thought is about they "have played the bottom 4 teams in the conference so far".  Either they are in the top of the standings because they played the bottom teams, or the teams are in the bottom since they played Whittier.

Funny how that works.  :-\

I looked a Massy's and their SoS is ranked 160th and forecasted will be 80th so they do have tougher games coming up. They forecast them to win 4.31 and lose 4.69 games not sure why they only have them playing 10 more games, but if they play 50% the rest of the way, then they will be in the mix for the SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 24, 2014, 05:50:59 PM
Right now it looks like TOP 4 for SCIAC tournament will be

1) Cal Lutheran
2) Chapman
3) Whittier
4) Occidental or La Verne or Redlands
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 28, 2014, 10:45:36 AM
Pretty big weekend in the SCIAC and a little bit of a "make or break" weekend for some.

Whittier and Oxy is probably the most important for both teams.  Whittier could inch closer to getting the #1 seed going into the round robin and really hurt Oxy.  Oxy could really help themselves in the #4 spot.  I say Oxy takes 2 of 3.

Pomona and La Verne- The only way Pomona has any remote shot of getting into the SCIAC tournament is by sweeping this series.  A Pomona sweep would really hurt La Verne, who is right there with Oxy for the #4 spot.  I am going with Pomona 2 out of 3.

Redlands and Chapman should see Laverty whipping up on his old team.  I see a Chapman sweep that pretty much ends any hope for Redland's and the SCIAC tournament.  Redlands could sneak one in since Chapman hasn't been able to sweep anyone, but I doubt it.

Cal Lu wins all 3 against Cal Tech.  I think Cal Lu is by far the most complete team in the SCIAC.

Non-Conference- PLU and Claremont split thier 2 games.  The SCIAC hasn't been too kind to PLU on this trip with Pomona and Cal Lu both beating them.

Predicted Standings at the end of this weekend...

1. Cal Lu 12-3
2. Whittier 11-4
3. Chapman 13-5
4. Oxy 9-6
5. La Verne 7-7
6. Redlands 8-10
7. Pomona 7-11
8. Claremont 4-11
Cal Tech 0-14
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 28, 2014, 12:17:58 PM
Good victory by Cal Lu over Pacific Lu and a very high quality pitcher.

They were able get 3 runs (2 earned) against Lubking, despite his 11k's.   He is throwing really well with a 1.61 ERA and 1.3 K's per inning.
Scotty Peters and Aron Roth were even better, shutting out the light hitting PLU team.
Peters has been a starter for 3 of Cal Lu's 4 shutouts.



This weekend I expect
- Redlands to take one against Chapman, as Chapman has struggled the past two series to sweep CMS or PP.
- Whittiers Barzilli is making a run at the SCIAC triple crown.  Whittier is averaging over 8  runs per game in non-Caltech SCIAC and Oxy only 4. 
I'm reluctant to predict a sweep, so I'll pick Whittier to win 2.
- PP & LaVerne a tossup;  I'm picking LaVerne to win 2; as PP will give one of the games away due to their errors.
- CLU win 3 against Cal Tech
- CMS playing non-league against Pac Lu.  PL to win both.
 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 30, 2014, 06:25:29 PM
Chapman Alum, new president of the Atlantic League, Rick White. Here is an article talking about his ideas for the League.
http://www.yorkdispatch.com/localsports/ci_25433537/new-president-has-big-plans-atlantic-league
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 30, 2014, 09:30:37 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 28, 2014, 12:17:58 PM
Good victory by Cal Lu over Pacific Lu and a very high quality pitcher.

They were able get 3 runs (2 earned) against Lubking, despite his 11k's.   He is throwing really well with a 1.61 ERA and 1.3 K's per inning.
Scotty Peters and Aron Roth were even better, shutting out the light hitting PLU team.
Peters has been a starter for 3 of Cal Lu's 4 shutouts.



This weekend I expect
- Redlands to take one against Chapman, as Chapman has struggled the past two series to sweep CMS or PP.
- Whittiers Barzilli is making a run at the SCIAC triple crown.  Whittier is averaging over 8  runs per game in non-Caltech SCIAC and Oxy only 4. 
I'm reluctant to predict a sweep, so I'll pick Whittier to win 2.
- PP & LaVerne a tossup;  I'm picking LaVerne to win 2; as PP will give one of the games away due to their errors.
- CLU win 3 against Cal Tech
- CMS playing non-league against Pac Lu.  PL to win both.

As expected:
Chapman took 2 of 3
Whittier won 2 of 3
CLU won all three.
Suprised LaVerne swept... but it took Extra inning in game 2 to sweep.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 31, 2014, 12:42:04 PM
Misc SCIAC stats:

Hitting
CLU        .353
CU          .315
La Verne .314

ERA
CLU        3.50            plus 23 unearned runs in 25 games
CU          3.78            plus 25 unearnedruns in 25 games
Occi        3.87            plus 28 unearned runs in 26 games

Fielding
CLU       .971           
CU         .963           
Whittier .961           


Remaining Sched:
Whittier: LV, CLU, CU                 12-3; Projected 16-8
CLU:    CMS, Whittier, LV            12-3; Projected 19-5
CU:     Cal Tech,  Whittier           12-6; Projected 17-7
LaVerne: Whittier, Occi, CLU, 1CT 9-5; Projected 14-10
Occi:       Redlands, LV, PP           8-7; Projected 13-11
Redlands: Occi, CMS                    9-9; Projected 13-11
(Plus the 4 game round robin)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 01, 2014, 07:09:57 PM
My weekend SCIAC predictions...

Cal Lu sweeps Claremont.
La Verne takes 2/3 from Whittier, although I could see Whittier taking 2/3 but no sweep either side.
Chapman- off from SCIAC
The toughest is Oxy/Redlands.  I am leaning towards Redlands taking 2/3 but might change my mind to Oxy 2/3
Pomona will sweep Cal Tech.

Projected standings after this weekend:
Cal Lu- 15-3
Whittier- 13-5
Chapman- 12-6
La Verne- 12-6 (lose the tie breaker with Chapman after being swept by them earlier in the year.  Also added the make-up win vs. Cal Tech)
Redlands- 11-10
Oxy- 9-9
Pomona 8-13
Claremont 4-14
Cal Tech- 0-17

Plenty of games to be played and I think it should be a pretty close race for the SCIAC tournament.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on April 05, 2014, 10:37:06 PM
Chapman swept Dallas by identical 6-3 scores. It looks like Laverty is tweaking his pitching staff. At the spring break, he told the team that  this was the home stretch and he was going with his horses. Osaki threw 136 pitches in the first game while striking out 10.  Closer Tabor Watson who beat Kean with a complete game  earlier, got his 2d start and With McGee starting tomorrow, this may be the rotation for the rest of the season.  There's no more pitch count restrictions so from herein out, he's going to ride his seniors/starters like they were Secretariat. He has confidence in 5 other guys to bring in as needed with Vietze (ERA 0.58 in 17IP) as the likely closer. I like what he's doing.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on April 05, 2014, 10:50:23 PM
I predict Chapman to win the SCIAC pool A bid. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 05, 2014, 11:58:36 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on April 05, 2014, 10:50:23 PM
I predict Chapman to win the SCIAC pool A bid.

Just curious, what makes you think this?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 06, 2014, 12:19:41 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 05, 2014, 11:58:36 PM
Just curious, what makes you think this?
Unbridled optimism?

IMO it will come down to CLU and Chapman, but still don't understand this whole round robbin format and how it relates to the conference championship. Chapman could knock off CLU but CLU  has to be favored at this point in time.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on April 06, 2014, 12:45:22 AM
CLU was the better team when CU and them met. But The 2 guys, Kiyo and Scooby, coming back from TJ surgery seem stronger now than a month ago. Both are clocking at 90. I'm curious though on whether CU could get a Pool C bid if they were to sweep the next 2 series, sweep the 4-game round robin and go 2-2 or 3-2 in the conference tourney (and up 30-10 in D-3 play).
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 06, 2014, 12:49:23 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 06, 2014, 12:19:41 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 05, 2014, 11:58:36 PM
Just curious, what makes you think this?
Unbridled optimism?

IMO it will come down to CLU and Chapman, but still don't understand this whole round robbin format and how it relates to the conference championship. Chapman could knock off CLU but CLU  has to be favored at this point in time.

I agree with that.  Big weekend for the SCIAC next week with CLU and Whittier playing as well as La Verne and Oxy playing.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 06, 2014, 12:53:18 AM
Quote from: Colorado on April 06, 2014, 12:45:22 AM
CLU was the better team when CU and them met. But The 2 guys, Kiyo and Scooby, coming back from TJ surgery seem stronger now than a month ago. Both are clocking at 90. I'm curious though on whether CU could get a Pool C bid if they were to sweep the next 2 series, sweep the 4-game round robin and go 2-2 or 3-2 in the conference tourney (and up 30-10 in D-3 play).

I'm not sure but I would lean towards no.  I think the only chance the SCIAC gets 2 teams in is if Cal Lu gets a Pool C.  I could be way off on this and will be very interested to see what happens when the regional rankings come out.  Anyone know when they come out?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on April 06, 2014, 01:09:27 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 05, 2014, 11:58:36 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on April 05, 2014, 10:50:23 PM
I predict Chapman to win the SCIAC pool A bid.

Just curious, what makes you think this?

Chapman is the hotter team, with more talent.  Also, today's scores CLU 5 - CMS 4, and CMS 6 - CLU 2.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 06, 2014, 01:21:40 AM
Quote from: Whatagame on April 06, 2014, 01:09:27 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 05, 2014, 11:58:36 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on April 05, 2014, 10:50:23 PM
I predict Chapman to win the SCIAC pool A bid.

Just curious, what makes you think this?

Chapman is the hotter team, with more talent.  Also, today's scores CLU 5 - CMS 4, and CMS 6 - CLU 2.

Eh, Cal Lu is 8-2 in their last 10, Chapman is 7-3, Whittier is 7-3, La Verne is 7-3.  Same Claremont team that beat Cal Lu today has only been swept by Whittier and beat Chapman earlier in the year.  I'm not knocking Chapman, they have the arms to get them right back into a regional.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 06, 2014, 04:15:25 AM
Chapman will have to win the SCIAC to get a bid to the regional with Pool A bid.

Several teams in the last several years have not made the regional with 30 wins. I don't see a Pool C for Chapman.

Chapman will need to hit better to win the SCIAC tournament. They currently rank 4th in SCIAC in hitting, 1st in pitching and and 3rd in fielding percentage.

If they pitch and field as they have all season and they hit enough they can win the SCIAC tournament
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 07, 2014, 12:36:07 PM
Ran into some old PP teammates this weekend who still play on the team (this will be the last year I can say that!), and they mentioned that for the first time the SCIAC was holding a home run derby yesterday at Oxy.

As I understood, it was for charity, with one representative from each team (Bruml was going to be swinging for PP).

First, I love the idea. It's always fun for players to get together and enjoy each other in a less competitive situation. There are so many connections between all the teams, and so many good, smart student-athletes represented in the SCIAC. Building the relations between players is great for the league and league play right now, and is great for the players in the future.

Also, there's no doubt Oxy is the perfect venue. Short all the way around (no advantage for lefties like at Pomona  ;)), and probably the most centrally located for all the schools traveling in on a Sunday.

Does anybody know how it turned out?


Finally, a big well-deserved congratulations to Coach Frank Pericolosi at Pomona. He just earned his 300th (and 301st and 302nd) win this weekend in just his 11th season. It's pretty phenomenal what he's done at Pomona-Pitzer, especially having to recruit with such strict admissions offices. It was an honor to play for him, and I hope he stays for many years. This may be a down year for PP, but I have no doubt they'll bounce right back as they always have.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 07, 2014, 02:02:48 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 07, 2014, 12:36:07 PM
Ran into some old PP teammates this weekend who still play on the team (this will be the last year I can say that!), and they mentioned that for the first time the SCIAC was holding a home run derby yesterday at Oxy.

As I understood, it was for charity, with one representative from each team (Bruml was going to be swinging for PP).

First, I love the idea. It's always fun for players to get together and enjoy each other in a less competitive situation. There are so many connections between all the teams, and so many good, smart student-athletes represented in the SCIAC. Building the relations between players is great for the league and league play right now, and is great for the players in the future.

Also, there's no doubt Oxy is the perfect venue. Short all the way around (no advantage for lefties like at Pomona  ;)), and probably the most centrally located for all the schools traveling in on a Sunday.

Does anybody know how it turned out?


Finally, a big well-deserved congratulations to Coach Frank Pericolosi at Pomona. He just earned his 300th (and 301st and 302nd) win this weekend in just his 11th season. It's pretty phenomenal what he's done at Pomona-Pitzer, especially having to recruit with such strict admissions offices. It was an honor to play for him, and I hope he stays for many years. This may be a down year for PP, but I have no doubt they'll bounce right back as they always have.

This was just posted

http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2014/contrib/201404060bk1wg


LOS ANGELES — When you think of a home run derby, you think of the biggest names in Major League Baseball during All-Star Weekend every summer. Miguel Cabrera, Prince Fielder, Robinson Cano and David Ortiz come to mind.

You don't think of a handful of SCIAC players and coaches rallying together to raise money for cancer research.

But on Sunday afternoon at Occidental College's Anderson Field in Los Angeles, players from seven of the conference's nine schools let the long ball fly in the first ever Take a Swing at Cancer Home Run Derby, presented by Copa Vida Coffee Shop in Pasadena. All proceeds went to cancer research at the City of Hope.

John Rizzo, a 6-foot-4, 225 lb. junior from Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, took home the trophy, crushing a towering shot to left field to beat runner up and the favorite Julian Barzilli of Whittier College in walk-off fashion.

"It's amazing and it was a lot of fun," Rizzo said. "I'm glad I got a chance to show what I could do and to help a great cause."

Barzilli is leading all of NCAA Division III with 14 home runs.

Rizzo, a pitcher, squeaked past the first round by edging Redlands' Max Hardman and Pomona-Pitzer's Jake Bruml in a three-out playoff. In the second round he found his swing, sending five homers over the wall, edging La Verne's Joe Winterburn and Cal Lutheran's Atherton Kniseley.

Kniseley fed off the adrenaline of going first in Round 1, totaling a round-best six homers
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 07, 2014, 02:50:18 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 06, 2014, 04:15:25 AM
Chapman will have to win the SCIAC to get a bid to the regional with Pool A bid.

Several teams in the last several years have not made the regional with 30 wins. I don't see a Pool C for Chapman.

Chapman will need to hit better to win the SCIAC tournament. They currently rank 4th in SCIAC in hitting, 1st in pitching and and 3rd in fielding percentage.

If they pitch and field as they have all season and they hit enough they can win the SCIAC tournament
Cal Lu's loss to CMS has made SCIAC even more intersting.


Of the top 5 teams:

Chapman at 12-6 has easiest schedule facing Cal Tech and Whittier (#8 and #1tie)  17-7 or better is withing reach (Prior to year end Round Robin).  Their early losses to Texas Lutheran and Trinity could really hurt them down the stretch.  If they can't win 2 of 3 from Whittier, then they won't have shown enough to get a wild card, leaving tourney win as only hope of Regional tournament bid. 

Cal Lu at 12-4 has 2nd hardest, facing Whittier and laVerne (#1tie and #4)  They will now be fortunate if they finish 18-6.  Given their CMS results, 17-7 wouldn't surprise.  If they take 5 of 6, then they would be the one SCIAC team that could get a wild card bid.


Whittier at 12-4 continues to exceed expectations.  With early loses to G.Fox, Pac Lu and Linfield, they'll need to win the year end tournament to have any chance of post season.  They have the hardest next 6 with Cal Lu and Chapman remaining.  I think they are a probable 16-8 or 17-7.   I don't see them winning more than 3 of those games... if they win 4, then we have definitely underestimated them this year.

LaVerne has Cal Lu and Occi (#1tie and #5).  LaVerne needs 2 of 3 from Occi to have chance of keeping 4th going into Round Robin.  I think 3 wins in those 6 games is most likely, leaving them 14-10 going into RR.  (1 game vs CalTech added to their victory column)

Occi needs to win 4 of their next 6 (LV and PP) leaving them at 14-10 going into Round Robin; but I'm picking they only win 3; 13-11 prior to RR.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 07, 2014, 03:06:24 PM
SCIAC STANDINGS
;D ;D ;D
Cal Lutheran 14-4 22-6
Whittier 14-4 18-10
Chapman 12-6 19-10
??? ??? ???
La Verne 10-7 14-14
Occidental 10-8 14-15
Redlands 10-11 11-20
:'( :'( :'(
Pomona-Pitzer 8-13 12-17
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 5-13 9-20
Caltech 0-17 1-23
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on April 07, 2014, 04:04:34 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on April 07, 2014, 02:50:18 PM


Whittier at 12-4 continues to exceed expectations.  With early loses to G.Fox, Pac Lu and Linfield, they'll need to win the year end tournament to have any chance of post season. 


Let's not also forget the 18-5 drubbing Whitman handed the Poets during their dismal weekend in Arizona (outscored 52-10 in four games).  To paraphrase the famous Charles Barkley quote, "Bad team man, that was a bad &%$&ing team!"
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 07, 2014, 09:14:41 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on April 07, 2014, 04:04:34 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on April 07, 2014, 02:50:18 PM


Whittier at 12-4 continues to exceed expectations.  With early loses to G.Fox, Pac Lu and Linfield, they'll need to win the year end tournament to have any chance of post season. 


Let's not also forget the 18-5 drubbing Whitman handed the Poets during their dismal weekend in Arizona (outscored 52-10 in four games).  To paraphrase the famous Charles Barkley quote, "Bad team man, that was a bad &%$&ing team!"
Whittier has to play 3 with Chapman and 3 with Cal Lu. If there are for real they will go 4-2 if not they could go 0-6
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on April 07, 2014, 11:30:11 PM
Not sure how much stock you can put in early season game results. It certainly means something but most teams change as the season progresses --players stuck in slow starts get replaced, ineffective pitchers get to sit, pitchers coming back from surgery start with restrictions and then are unwrapped at some point. Whittier has played well since playing those NWC teams. The SCIAC overall started slow in Arizona and Texas, leaving the first impression that it was a weak year but as the season has progressed, the SCIAC's non-conference record is now a +7 (not counting CalTech) -- not exactly gangbusters but a steady improvement from the 6-25 non-conference start (again excluding CalTech) from that first week. Call me a homer but I'm not sure the SCIAC should be automatically excluded from getting a 2d team into the playoffs.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 10, 2014, 06:06:44 PM
My weekend predictions in the SCIAC...

Cal Lu takes 2 of 3 from Whittier...unless they drop the Friday game, then Whittier takes 2 of 3.
Chapman sweeps Cal Tech.
Claremont takes 2 of 3 from Redlands.
Oxy takes 2 of 3 from La Verne in a huge series going into the round-robin portion of the schedule.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 10, 2014, 07:32:47 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 10, 2014, 06:06:44 PM
My weekend predictions in the SCIAC...

Cal Lu takes 2 of 3 from Whittier...unless they drop the Friday game, then Whittier takes 2 of 3.
Chapman sweeps Cal Tech.
Claremont takes 2 of 3 from Redlands.
Oxy takes 2 of 3 from La Verne in a huge series going into the round-robin portion of the schedule.

JP:

- Cal Lu vs Whittier.  I spent time looking at this, as this is between two teams tied for first in SCIAC. 
1) Fridays game at Whittier will be the key game.   Potential WHittier Fri starter Garcia 1-2 in last three SCIAC games.   Tough last outing and 6.04 ERA in last 4 games.  Petersen of CLU also had a tough last outing against CMS.   Statistically CLU hitters should do well and If Petersen goes long enough to get to Roth, CLU should win. If middle relievers are needed, it means Whittier got to Petersen and Whittier will win.
2) Martin, game 2 starter(?) has had a good year for Whittier, although his 4.58 ERA may indicate that Cal Lu's hitters should be able to connect against him.  Hebda of CLU has had 4 solid starts in a row.  Era in those games is 1.80 (if I did the math right).  This should be most competitive game.   Tossup goes to CLU at Home; but no surprise if Whittier wins.
3) Game 3:  For Whittie, Cheatham has been game 3 for past two outings.  Got two wins even though ERA was 7.36.  He did shut down PP earlier in year, so he has shown ability to have good game and ERA over past 4 games is a respectable 4.00   S. Peters of CLU is having a good year.  In past 6 outings he has shutout Chapman, Redland and Pac LU (outdualing Lubking 3-0).  Offsetting that is rough outings vs Occy and CMS.  Based on strong outings in critical matchups, I pick S. Peters to have a win.

- Chapman sweeps CalTech

- Not sure about CMS vs Redlands.  CMS hasn't won a series yet.  2-1 either way wouldn't surprise me.

- LV vs Oxy, I'll pick LV to win 2.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Westside on April 10, 2014, 08:35:30 PM
Holy smokes. Can we take a second to appreciate PP's Simon Rosenbaum. This kid is only a sophomore and he is putting up numbers I haven't seen since the bats were changed. He is hitting .505 with a .594 OBP and .874 Slugging %. He leads the nation in doubles, with 20. He has six bombs, and he his driven in 38. Those stats are just sick. And if I remember correctly, he was a stud pitcher as a freshman? Absolutely filthy.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 10, 2014, 08:52:38 PM
Quote from: Westside4 on April 10, 2014, 08:35:30 PM
Holy smokes. Can we take a second to appreciate PP's Simon Rosenbaum. This kid is only a sophomore and he is putting up numbers I haven't seen since the bats were changed. He is hitting .505 with a .594 OBP and .874 Slugging %. He leads the nation in doubles, with 20. He has six bombs, and he his driven in 38. Those stats are just sick. And if I remember correctly, he was a stud pitcher as a freshman? Absolutely filthy.

At the start of the year I had opined that if Rosenbaum was healthy then PP would have a good year.
I was partially right... as he hasn't pitched all year, which hasn't helped their staff.  But his hitting has been fantastic!
and I didn't anticipate the high # of unearned runs, which has been (IMHO) their downfall.


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on April 10, 2014, 11:05:38 PM
Quote from: Colorado on April 07, 2014, 11:30:11 PM
Not sure how much stock you can put in early season game results. It certainly means something but most teams change as the season progresses --players stuck in slow starts get replaced, ineffective pitchers get to sit, pitchers coming back from surgery start with restrictions and then are unwrapped at some point. Whittier has played well since playing those NWC teams. The SCIAC overall started slow in Arizona and Texas, leaving the first impression that it was a weak year but as the season has progressed, the SCIAC's non-conference record is now a +7 (not counting CalTech) -- not exactly gangbusters but a steady improvement from the 6-25 non-conference start (again excluding CalTech) from that first week. Call me a homer but I'm not sure the SCIAC should be automatically excluded from getting a 2d team into the playoffs.

True, but the SCIAC currently sits 8-21 versus the NWC this season, and nobody played Caltech.   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 10, 2014, 11:09:44 PM
Quote from: Westside4 on April 10, 2014, 08:35:30 PM
Holy smokes. Can we take a second to appreciate PP's Simon Rosenbaum. This kid is only a sophomore and he is putting up numbers I haven't seen since the bats were changed. He is hitting .505 with a .594 OBP and .874 Slugging %. He leads the nation in doubles, with 20. He has six bombs, and he his driven in 38. Those stats are just sick. And if I remember correctly, he was a stud pitcher as a freshman? Absolutely filthy.

Makes a tough choice for the conference player of the year.  I think it's a 2-horse race.

Stats (conference only)
Rosenbaum- .538 avg, 15 2b's, 6 HR's, .962 slg%
Barzilli- .394 avg, 5 2b's, 12 HR's, 1.015 slg%
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 10, 2014, 11:12:05 PM

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True, but the SCIAC currently sits 8-21 versus the NWC this season, and nobody played Caltech.
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Yikes, thats pretty ugly.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on April 11, 2014, 12:17:49 AM
Yep. 8-21 is not very good but a team like Chapman (no record vs NWC, maybe ends up with 28-30 wins and a win over Kean) ought to be in the final selection mix.  Just my speculation, but  if CU were still an independent and had this kind of record, I'm guessing they'd probably get their ticket punched. During CU's epic run from 2003-2011, they always scheduled a large number of games with the SCIAC without it dragging their selection chances down. Just a homer thinking out loud.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 11, 2014, 08:28:18 AM
If Chapman plays well at the end of the season they are definitely in the mix, but a lot depends on what happens around them. (assuming they don't  win the SCIAC) If they win the SCIAC, which they are capable of doing then end of discussion.  If you take the 4 losses out from the beginning of the season they have played fairly well. IMO this is why it is important to play a tough OOC schedule as it prepares the team for conference play and the end of the season games which mean more.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on April 11, 2014, 12:44:59 PM
Don't get me wrong, I believe if both Cal Lu and Chapman finish the season winning at a very high rate, and then, you have those two teams play each other in the title game of the conference tourney, then I think its legit that both teams make the regional.  I think Chapman sets up as a very dangerous team in the SCIAC tournament format with their pitching.  One thing I don't get is how two posters on this thread are surmising how Cal Lu could lose 2/3 this weekend to Whittier.  If that's the case, then how could Cal Lu even be considered a threat in the regional?  I think the absolute expectation would be a Cal Lu sweep this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 11, 2014, 03:38:26 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on April 11, 2014, 12:44:59 PM
Don't get me wrong, I believe if both Cal Lu and Chapman finish the season winning at a very high rate, and then, you have those two teams play each other in the title game of the conference tourney, then I think its legit that both teams make the regional.  I think Chapman sets up as a very dangerous team in the SCIAC tournament format with their pitching.  One thing I don't get is how two posters on this thread are surmising how Cal Lu could lose 2/3 this weekend to Whittier.  If that's the case, then how could Cal Lu even be considered a threat in the regional?  I think the absolute expectation would be a Cal Lu sweep this weekend.

Believe me, I do not expect Cal Lu to lose 2/3 but it seems like each weekend one of their starters has had trouble.  Maybe last weekend was just "one of those weekends" but I hope all 3 get solid starts.  I don't think Whittier has the pitching to hold them down but they sure do have an explosive offense.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Lets Play Two on April 11, 2014, 09:43:17 PM
Whittier draws first blood at home today, beating Cal Lu, 4-2.  Garcia went 7+ to get the win, scattering 10 hits.  Petersen was impressive as well, though he did give up a 2-run shot to Cerami and a solo blast to Barzilli. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 11, 2014, 10:26:13 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 10, 2014, 11:09:44 PM
Quote from: Westside4 on April 10, 2014, 08:35:30 PM
Holy smokes. Can we take a second to appreciate PP's Simon Rosenbaum. This kid is only a sophomore and he is putting up numbers I haven't seen since the bats were changed. He is hitting .505 with a .594 OBP and .874 Slugging %. He leads the nation in doubles, with 20. He has six bombs, and he his driven in 38. Those stats are just sick. And if I remember correctly, he was a stud pitcher as a freshman? Absolutely filthy.

Makes a tough choice for the conference player of the year.  I think it's a 2-horse race.

Stats (conference only)
Rosenbaum- .538 avg, 15 2b's, 6 HR's, .962 slg%
Barzilli- .394 avg, 5 2b's, 12 HR's, 1.015 slg%

Rosenbaum has been unreal. And those 6 home runs are no joke- he's a right handed hitter, so he has to deal with the deep fence in left at Pomona not the short one in right.
Unfortunately for Simon, the MVP usually comes from the team that won SCIAC (or at least a contender). It takes a pretty incredible year to buck that trend, but I think his season might just qualify. And when he's fully recovered from the Tommy John, he's got the ability to be one of their best pitchers (if not their best). Gotta wonder if focusing on hitting and not worrying about being on the mound has helped him this year.
And all credit due to Barzilli who is having a phenomenal year as well!

Meanwhile, PP has a chance to make some noise this weekend and play spoiler as they travel up to Linfied for a 3 game set (2 Saturday, 1 Sunday). I think they might just pull one out up there.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 11, 2014, 11:37:44 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 11, 2014, 03:38:26 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on April 11, 2014, 12:44:59 PM
Don't get me wrong, I believe if both Cal Lu and Chapman finish the season winning at a very high rate, and then, you have those two teams play each other in the title game of the conference tourney, then I think its legit that both teams make the regional.  I think Chapman sets up as a very dangerous team in the SCIAC tournament format with their pitching.  One thing I don't get is how two posters on this thread are surmising how Cal Lu could lose 2/3 this weekend to Whittier.  If that's the case, then how could Cal Lu even be considered a threat in the regional?  I think the absolute expectation would be a Cal Lu sweep this weekend.

I don't think Whittier has the pitching to hold them down but they sure do have an explosive offense.

Looks like I was wrong on this one.  Garcia gives up 10 hits but only 2 runs.  It might be too early to say this but tomorrow might be do or die time for Cal Lu.  Chapman, Whittier and Cal Lu seem to be locks for the SCIAC tourney with Oxy and La Verne right there.  Don't know if Redlands can sneak in but I doubt it.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 12, 2014, 12:57:14 AM
It is Mid-April and Whittier is in 1st place in SCIAC by themselves.  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/index

Could the Poets sweep the Kingsmen ?  WOW....Do you believe in miracles? 

It could happen?

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 12, 2014, 08:57:14 AM
So much for early season predictions. Gotta love college baseball.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 12, 2014, 07:57:40 PM
Not surprisingly, PP drops the first game to the defending Champs up in Oregon (though I didn't expect Linfield to put up 16 runs...)

I figured that the Sagehens actually had a good chance to pull out game 2 behind Miles, who has been their best pitcher this seasons. And PP had a 3-2 lead in the sixth!
Linfield stormed back and scored 5 runs in the 6th inning though, and now lead 7-3 in the 7th. True to Sagehen form this year, 5 of the 7 runs have been unearned. Yikes.

*Edit: The wheels appear to be falling off. Linfield put up another 5 run inning in the 7th (Wylie had his second bases loaded, bases clearing double in as many innings), and they now lead 12-3.
** Linfield wins 13-3. Game 3 tomorrow. Don't know how PP is going to slow down the Linfield bats, but that's their only chance at pulling one out.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 12, 2014, 08:11:06 PM
More significant to the conference standings, Whittier won game 2 by a score of 7-5 (in extras) but trail 14-6 late in game three thanks to a HUGE 12 run 7th inning by CLU (they were down 6-2 entering the inning!).

-Chapman pulled off the sweep of CIT
-Oxy splits with ULV to take the series.
-Redlands splits with CMS to take the series

Whittier (16-5, assuming they lose game three) sits alone in first place, with Chapman next weekend. That series will obviously be crucial for seeding heading into the round robin. If Whittier wins the series, they get the 1 seed. Things get interesting if Chapman can take 2 of 3 though, could be looking at a three way tie for first.

Chapman (15-6) has launched into a tie for 2nd place in the standings, assuming CLU hangs on, but CLU holds the tie breaker. Chapman still has three against Whittier, and CLU finishes with ULV.

Oxy (12-9) now has the upper hand on 4th place. Though essentially tied with ULV (11-9 with a makeup against CIT to play), Oxy holds the tiebreaker.  Moreover, Oxy plays three with PP next weekend while ULV gets CLU. Oxy should head into the round robin sitting pretty.

Redlands (12-12) has completed their regular season and will need a great showing in the round robin and a lot of help to have a shot at 4th place.

PP, CMS and CIT... :(
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 12, 2014, 10:10:54 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 12, 2014, 08:11:06 PM

Whittier (16-5, assuming they lose game three) sits alone in first place, with Chapman next weekend. That series will obviously be crucial for seeding heading into the round robin. If Whittier wins the series, they get the 1 seed. Things get interesting if Chapman can take 2 of 3 though, could be looking at a three way tie for first.


Hmmmmm, if Cal Lu and Chapman both take 2/3 next weekend it does make a 3-way tie which I have no idea how they would figure out the seeding for the round-robin.  If Cal Lu and Chapman sweep it would be CLU in the 1 seed.  WHo knows what will happen as this has been a wild season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 13, 2014, 12:59:04 AM
A fight between Cal Lu, Chapman and Whitter for #1 seed for SCIAC tournament  ;D ;D ;D

Fri.  Apr. 18, 2014  Chapman @Whittier    La Verne @Cal Lutheran
Sat. Apr. 19, 2014  Whittier @Chapman(DH)  Cal Lutheran @La Verne(DH)

Wed., Apr. 23, 2014   SCIAC Round Robin vs. TBA  Neutral  TBA   
Sat., Apr. 26, 2014    SCIAC Round Robin vs. TBA  Neutral  TBA   
Sun., Apr. 27, 2014   SCIAC Round Robin vs. TBA  Neutral  TBA   
Tue., Apr. 29, 2014   SCIAC Round Robin vs. TBA  Neutral  TBA 
 
SCIAC Post Season Tournament   (May. 2 - May. 4)   TBA 

NCAA Division III Baseball Regional   (May. 14 - May. 18)   McMinnville, Ore. 

NCAA Division III Baseball Championships   (May. 23 - May. 27)   Appleton, Wis. 



Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 14, 2014, 05:24:06 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 12, 2014, 10:10:54 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 12, 2014, 08:11:06 PM

Whittier (16-5, assuming they lose game three) sits alone in first place, with Chapman next weekend. That series will obviously be crucial for seeding heading into the round robin. If Whittier wins the series, they get the 1 seed. Things get interesting if Chapman can take 2 of 3 though, could be looking at a three way tie for first.


Hmmmmm, if Cal Lu and Chapman both take 2/3 next weekend it does make a 3-way tie which I have no idea how they would figure out the seeding for the round-robin.  If Cal Lu and Chapman sweep it would be CLU in the 1 seed.  WHo knows what will happen as this has been a wild season.

It's definitely been an interesting year.  Whittier has been a surprise for me.  At the start of the year I expected CLU pitching to be their strength and their hitting to be the variable factor.  A 3 way tie going into Round Robin would make it very interesting. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 15, 2014, 12:08:44 AM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 31, 2014, 12:42:04 PM


Remaining Sched:
Whittier: LV, CLU, CU                 12-3; Projected 16-8
CLU:    CMS, Whittier, LV            12-3; Projected 19-5
CU:     Cal Tech,  Whittier           12-6; Projected 17-7
LaVerne: Whittier, Occi, CLU, 1CT 9-5; Projected 14-10
Occi:       Redlands, LV, PP           8-7; Projected 13-11
Redlands: Occi, CMS                    9-9; Projected 13-11
(Plus the 4 game round robin)


Two weeks ago I had the above predictions.  With one week until Round Robin,
Whittier = 16-5;   17-7,   Predicting 1-2 against CU (CU has 2 home games...giving them an edge?)
CLU = 15-6;  17-7, Predicting 2-1 against LV
CU = 15-6;  17-7  See Whittier prediction
LaVerne = 12-9 (giving CalTech game tothem); 13-11 See CLU prediction
Occi = 12-9; 14-10 Predicting 2-1 against PP
Redlands = 12-12; Done until Round Robin

If my predictions are right:
3 way tie; 
I'm not sure what the tie-breaker is for Round Robin seeding.
Head to head to head would be a wash; all 2-1 and 1-2 against the other two.


With 1 series to go, Run Differential:
Whittier +70
CLU +80
CU +96

Runs Allowed:
Whittier +111
CLU +101
CU +86

Runs Scored:
Whittier 181
CLU 181
CU 182


If any SCIAC official knows how a 3-way tie would be seeded, please enlighten us....
Or we can wait until Sat night and find out if it's necessary
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 15, 2014, 01:26:17 AM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on April 15, 2014, 12:08:44 AM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 31, 2014, 12:42:04 PM


Remaining Sched:
Whittier: LV, CLU, CU                 12-3; Projected 16-8
CLU:    CMS, Whittier, LV            12-3; Projected 19-5
CU:     Cal Tech,  Whittier           12-6; Projected 17-7
LaVerne: Whittier, Occi, CLU, 1CT 9-5; Projected 14-10
Occi:       Redlands, LV, PP           8-7; Projected 13-11
Redlands: Occi, CMS                    9-9; Projected 13-11
(Plus the 4 game round robin)


Two weeks ago I had the above predictions.  With one week until Round Robin,
Whittier = 16-5;   17-7,   Predicting 1-2 against CU (CU has 2 home games...giving them an edge?)
CLU = 15-6;  17-7, Predicting 2-1 against LV
CU = 15-6;  17-7  See Whittier prediction
LaVerne = 12-9 (giving CalTech game tothem); 13-11 See CLU prediction
Occi = 12-9; 14-10 Predicting 2-1 against PP
Redlands = 12-12; Done until Round Robin

If my predictions are right:
3 way tie; 
I'm not sure what the tie-breaker is for Round Robin seeding.
Head to head to head would be a wash; all 2-1 and 1-2 against the other two.


With 1 series to go, Run Differential:
Whittier +70
CLU +80
CU +96

Runs Allowed:
Whittier +111
CLU +101
CU +86

Runs Scored:
Whittier 181
CLU 181
CU 182


If any SCIAC official knows how a 3-way tie would be seeded, please enlighten us....
Or we can wait until Sat night and find out if it's necessary

What about how they did against the next highest team.......disregard, it's another wash as all went 2-1 against Oxy.  I'm stumped.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfan_2001 on April 15, 2014, 08:11:53 AM
Rock, Paper, Scissor
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 15, 2014, 12:41:43 PM
Coin flip with 2 headed coin. Who ever calls tails loses. Then Home Run Derby, Then alphabetical order for the final tie breaker if other dont work.  ??? ??? ???

#of wins over opponents with the highest winning percentage   ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 15, 2014, 12:45:28 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on April 11, 2014, 12:44:59 PM
Don't get me wrong, I believe if both Cal Lu and Chapman finish the season winning at a very high rate, and then, you have those two teams play each other in the title game of the conference tourney, then I think its legit that both teams make the regional.  I think Chapman sets up as a very dangerous team in the SCIAC tournament format with their pitching.  One thing I don't get is how two posters on this thread are surmising how Cal Lu could lose 2/3 this weekend to Whittier.  If that's the case, then how could Cal Lu even be considered a threat in the regional?  I think the absolute expectation would be a Cal Lu sweep this weekend.
It happen and Cal Lu can be playing it's way out of a Pool A or Pool C bid over the next several weeks and could be staying home.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 15, 2014, 01:05:37 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 15, 2014, 12:45:28 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on April 11, 2014, 12:44:59 PM
Don't get me wrong, I believe if both Cal Lu and Chapman finish the season winning at a very high rate, and then, you have those two teams play each other in the title game of the conference tourney, then I think its legit that both teams make the regional.  I think Chapman sets up as a very dangerous team in the SCIAC tournament format with their pitching.  One thing I don't get is how two posters on this thread are surmising how Cal Lu could lose 2/3 this weekend to Whittier.  If that's the case, then how could Cal Lu even be considered a threat in the regional?  I think the absolute expectation would be a Cal Lu sweep this weekend.
It happen and Cal Lu can be playing it's way out of a Pool A or Pool C bid over the next several weeks and could be staying home.

I don't disagree that Cal Lu is hurting themselves but at this point right now I would be willing to bet Cal Lu has a better shot at a Pool C than Chapman does.  Of course there are still anywhere from 9-11 games left for both schools.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 15, 2014, 01:11:48 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 15, 2014, 01:05:37 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 15, 2014, 12:45:28 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on April 11, 2014, 12:44:59 PM
Don't get me wrong, I believe if both Cal Lu and Chapman finish the season winning at a very high rate, and then, you have those two teams play each other in the title game of the conference tourney, then I think its legit that both teams make the regional.  I think Chapman sets up as a very dangerous team in the SCIAC tournament format with their pitching.  One thing I don't get is how two posters on this thread are surmising how Cal Lu could lose 2/3 this weekend to Whittier.  If that's the case, then how could Cal Lu even be considered a threat in the regional?  I think the absolute expectation would be a Cal Lu sweep this weekend.
It happen and Cal Lu can be playing it's way out of a Pool A or Pool C bid over the next several weeks and could be staying home.

I don't disagree that Cal Lu is hurting themselves but at this point right now I would be willing to bet Cal Lu has a better shot at a Pool C than Chapman does.  Of course there are still anywhere from 9-11 games left for both schools.
Agreed. Best thing for both of them is to keeping winning and meet in the SCIAC Tournament Championship then both might make it to the regional.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 15, 2014, 10:47:10 PM
SCIAC STATS

Top Hitting Teams
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/teams?sort=avg&r=0&pos=h

Top Pitching Teams
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/teams?sort=era&r=0&pos=p

Top Fielding Teams
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/teams?sort=fpct&r=0&pos=f
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 16, 2014, 09:59:33 AM
Looking at the stats I don't get how Whittier is where they are at:

CLU and Chapman are pretty close in most of the stats. Whittier however is hitting 44 and 33 pts below CLU and Chapman and has a whopping ERA of 5.48.

If you look at the conference only stats Chapman has the clear edge hitting 0.368 vs 0.338 over CLU and ERA of 3.46 vs 4.27 for CLU.

Whittier still lags both teams but is scoring the same amount of runs on a lot fewer hits. Their ERA drops to 4.62, which is still not that great.

Looks like they are good situational hitters and have some luck on their side.

I guess we will see how real they are after the Chapman/Whittier series.  I think Chapman has the edge going into the final couple of weeks. It will be interesting if CLU can right the ship and start playing the kind of ball they were earlier in the season. 

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Lets Play Two on April 16, 2014, 01:42:28 PM
I guess that's why they actually play the games.  Bottom line...they are getting it done on the field and that's the only statistic that matters.  They were terrible in Arizona the first week of the season, but have gone 20-6 since. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 16, 2014, 01:47:30 PM
Baseball is more than hard stats...A few years back a team with a.500 record with only 20 wins went into their conference tournament as the #4 seed. They went on to win the DIII National Championship. Rule 1 is win to play another day. Keep doing this until there are no more games to play.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Lets Play Two on April 16, 2014, 03:11:15 PM
Well said...well said!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on April 16, 2014, 05:31:25 PM
Agreed! They play the game for a reason. Plus K Crash!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 16, 2014, 09:17:54 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 16, 2014, 09:59:33 AM
Looking at the stats I don't get how Whittier is where they are at:

CLU and Chapman are pretty close in most of the stats. Whittier however is hitting 44 and 33 pts below CLU and Chapman and has a whopping ERA of 5.48.

If you look at the conference only stats Chapman has the clear edge hitting 0.368 vs 0.338 over CLU and ERA of 3.46 vs 4.27 for CLU.

Whittier still lags both teams but is scoring the same amount of runs on a lot fewer hits. Their ERA drops to 4.62, which is still not that great.

Looks like they are good situational hitters and have some luck on their side.

I guess we will see how real they are after the Chapman/Whittier series.  I think Chapman has the edge going into the final couple of weeks. It will be interesting if CLU can right the ship and start playing the kind of ball they were earlier in the season.

In an odd Non-Conference game tonight, CLU beat Whittier 5-1.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 18, 2014, 10:30:02 AM
Predictions for the weekend in the SCIAC

Chapman takes 2 of 3 from Whittier.  Chapman has had a tough time sweeping teams this year and I think Whittier gets them once.
Oxy take 2 of 3 from Pomona.  Oxy isn't a great hitting team but Pomona has struggled on the mound all year.
Claremont with the sweep of Cal Tech.
Cal Lu takes 2 of 3 from La Verne.  Which Cal Lu team will show up?  Which La Verne team will show up?
Redlands is done with their SCIAC schedule and will need some help to get a top 4 seed. 

I think finishing in the top 3 of the SCIAC after the round robin is key since you don't have to play on the 29th and you don't play the other top seeds.  Plenty of baseball left to be played but I would say the race for the 4th spot is still up in the air and Whittier, Cal Lu and Chapman will all be in the conference tourney.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 18, 2014, 12:56:35 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 18, 2014, 10:30:02 AM
Predictions for the weekend in the SCIAC

Chapman takes 2 of 3 from Whittier.  Chapman has had a tough time sweeping teams this year and I think Whittier gets them once.
Oxy take 2 of 3 from Pomona.  Oxy isn't a great hitting team but Pomona has struggled on the mound all year.
Claremont with the sweep of Cal Tech.
Cal Lu takes 2 of 3 from La Verne.  Which Cal Lu team will show up?  Which La Verne team will show up?
Redlands is done with their SCIAC schedule and will need some help to get a top 4 seed. 

I think finishing in the top 3 of the SCIAC after the round robin is key since you don't have to play on the 29th and you don't play the other top seeds.  Plenty of baseball left to be played but I would say the race for the 4th spot is still up in the air and Whittier, Cal Lu and Chapman will all be in the conference tourney.

JP:
- Based on your projections going into Round Robin, there will be a three way tie for 1st-3rd, with Occi (has tiebreaker over LV based on 2-1 series) in 4th.  Followed by LV, Redlands PP, CMS, CalT

Coin Flip for 1-3 ??

- #1 plays 5,6,8,9:   LV, Redlands, CMS, CalT
- #2 plays 4,6,7,9:   Occi, Redlands, PP, CalT   
- #3 plays 4,5,7,8:   Occi, LV, PP, CMS
- #4 plays 2,3,8,9:   ?, ?, CMS, CalT
- #5 plays 1,3,7,9:   ?, ?, PP, CalT
- #6 plays 1,2,7,8:   ?, ?, PP, CMS
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 18, 2014, 01:19:44 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on April 18, 2014, 12:56:35 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 18, 2014, 10:30:02 AM
Predictions for the weekend in the SCIAC

Chapman takes 2 of 3 from Whittier.  Chapman has had a tough time sweeping teams this year and I think Whittier gets them once.
Oxy take 2 of 3 from Pomona.  Oxy isn't a great hitting team but Pomona has struggled on the mound all year.
Claremont with the sweep of Cal Tech.
Cal Lu takes 2 of 3 from La Verne.  Which Cal Lu team will show up?  Which La Verne team will show up?
Redlands is done with their SCIAC schedule and will need some help to get a top 4 seed. 

I think finishing in the top 3 of the SCIAC after the round robin is key since you don't have to play on the 29th and you don't play the other top seeds.  Plenty of baseball left to be played but I would say the race for the 4th spot is still up in the air and Whittier, Cal Lu and Chapman will all be in the conference tourney.

JP:
- Based on your projections going into Round Robin, there will be a three way tie for 1st-3rd, with Occi (has tiebreaker over LV based on 2-1 series) in 4th.  Followed by LV, Redlands PP, CMS, CalT

Coin Flip for 1-3 ??

- #1 plays 5,6,8,9:   LV, Redlands, CMS, CalT
- #2 plays 4,6,7,9:   Occi, Redlands, PP, CalT   
- #3 plays 4,5,7,8:   Occi, LV, PP, CMS
- #4 plays 2,3,8,9:   ?, ?, CMS, CalT
- #5 plays 1,3,7,9:   ?, ?, PP, CalT
- #6 plays 1,2,7,8:   ?, ?, PP, CMS

That would be pretty crazy but my projections have been pretty bad all year so who knows....
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 18, 2014, 01:35:17 PM
Can someone explain to me the logic of this round robin thing?

What value is there in playing CMS and CalTech? It is pretty much a foregone conclusion the top two seeds are going to come out on the top, so why not just go to your conference championships and be done with it?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on April 18, 2014, 01:46:26 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 18, 2014, 01:35:17 PM
Can someone explain to me the logic of this round robin thing?

What value is there in playing CMS and CalTech? It is pretty much a foregone conclusion the top two seeds are going to come out on the top, so why not just go to your conference championships and be done with it?

Someone on this board (can't remember who) surmised that with the addition of Chapman, making SCIAC a 9 team conference, the round robin is a way to get a 28 game conference schedule that is a happy medium as opposed to a 24 game (play every team 3 times) and a 32 game conference schedule (play each team 4 times)

I don't know if that answers the "logic" part of your question though.....
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 18, 2014, 02:41:51 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on April 18, 2014, 01:46:26 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 18, 2014, 01:35:17 PM
Can someone explain to me the logic of this round robin thing?

What value is there in playing CMS and CalTech? It is pretty much a foregone conclusion the top two seeds are going to come out on the top, so why not just go to your conference championships and be done with it?

Someone on this board (can't remember who) surmised that with the addition of Chapman, making SCIAC a 9 team conference, the round robin is a way to get a 28 game conference schedule that is a happy medium as opposed to a 24 game (play every team 3 times) and a 32 game conference schedule (play each team 4 times)

I don't know if that answers the "logic" part of your question though.....

I think that was me that mentioned it but that pretty much is the only thing I can come up with.  Before Chapman all SCIAC teams played a 3-game series which made for 21 games and then played each other in single games at the end of the year to run the total to 28 games.  If they did the same thing with Chapman now in the league it would make for 32 conference games and very little opportunity to travel or have someone come in for non-conference games.  I think it allows the non-conference games to be spread out a little more.  Example- Chapman played Cal St. San Marcos and went to Texas during the first week of the season.  That would leave them only 4 non-conference games to fill the rest of the season.  Couple that with the early start dates of the West Coast teams it really just seems like it works better.  It also allows the NWC teams an opportunity to come down for some games.

Logical?  Maybe, maybe not, but it gives the 3rd,4th,5th and 6th place teams another chance at the end of the year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 18, 2014, 03:16:19 PM
First off CalTech is a joke, they should be removed from the conference and go club. They probably would not win very many games in club ball, but this is a disservice to school, the conference and all involved. If I am not mistaken the round robin woo haa adds up to 30 games anyway. Make them meaningful IMO.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on April 18, 2014, 03:52:13 PM
I actually think a round robin-type thing would be cool for the NWC, as they play a 24 game conference schedule now.  This leaves 16 games to be filled by non-conference opponents.  Given that very few schools will travel to the Northwest, its tough to fill 16 slots with out-of-conference D3 opponents.  Basically, the schools have to travel. Thus some schools play a lot of NAIA teams, which really serves no purpose.  It would be nice to reduce the non-conference to about 10-12 games. However, given the distance between NWC schools, the round robin format as utilized in the SCIAC is pretty unfeasible.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 18, 2014, 04:31:55 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 18, 2014, 03:16:19 PM
First off CalTech is a joke, they should be removed from the conference and go club. They probably would not win very many games in club ball, but this is a disservice to school, the conference and all involved. If I am not mistaken the round robin woo haa adds up to 30 games anyway. Make them meaningful IMO.

This has been talked about on every board in the world...I don't see it happening.  As far as the 28/30 games, it's 28 with 8 teams X3 games and 4 extra round robin, although math was never my strong point.  I don't disagree either about making them meaningful.  Playing Cal Tech really doesn't help anyone.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on April 19, 2014, 08:02:51 AM
Chapman drew first blood against Whittier (9-3) but not without some drama. The Poets had Osaki on the ropes in the 1st (bases loaded, 1 in, 1 out) but let him off the hook and Then struggled to put anything together until he tired in the 7th.  Reliever Braden Riddle came into the 8th with 2 on, none out with the tying run at the plate and was lights out (2IP, 4 K) to move CU into a 3-way tie for 1st. The Poets used 3 pitchers who stayed in the 70's mph range. Strategy almost worked as CU's overly eager hitters were shutout for 5 innings before MVP Mark Saatzer crushed a 2-run HR in the 6th. Whittier's Barzilli  looked like a beast with a double (on a FB up and in) in the 1st but he was pretty quiet after that as CU seemed to change their approach with him. I'll be curious today to see how it plays out with him in the DH. Defensive play of the game: 2b Tim Alhamati with his back to the bag and moving away to the OF to reach the ball as it trickled away, did a no look swipe at the ball with his glove and flipped it to the SS for a force play to quash a Whittier bases loaded threat.i CU's ace  Travis McGee and Last year's all conference, Tabor Watson, start today. As for yesterday, the tense playoff type atmosphere made it a great game to watch. Looking forward to 2 more today.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 19, 2014, 04:51:19 PM
Chapman came out and stomped Whittier in the first game of the doubleheader, 10-0 in 7 innings.
ULV was up 4-0 in the eighth, but CLU is once again relying on the big inning and are now up 7-4 with Roth in to close out the 8th and 9th. If CLU holds on, they'll be tied with Chapman (CLU holds tiebreaker) at the top of the SCIAC going into the afternoon games.

PP also took the first game against Oxy, and will be looking for a sweep this afternoon (there's the Hens I know and love!). Looks like Bruml found himself on the mound, and Rosenabum added another home run. Nishioka had three hits as well. Oxy losing this series is big for ULV, and puts them in a better sport heading into the round robin (especially if they lose the series or get swept by CLU). Redlands is loving CLU and PP right now- they could end up tied for fourth heading into the round robin. And, amazingly, a PP sweep and CLU sweep would leave the Hens just a game back.

Standings heading into last game before round robin (assuming CLU hangs on, and ULV beats CIT in makeup game):

1. CLU (17-6) holds tiebreaker over CU
1. Chapman (17-6)
3. Whittier (16-7)
4. Oxy (12-11) holds tiebreaker over ULV
4. ULV (12-11)
6. UR (12-12)
7. P-P (10-13)
8. CMS (8-15)- Played a full 9 in both CIT games, and only won the morning game 7-3 today. Could we see a spoiler this afternoon??
9. CIT (0-23)

Looks like we'll be coming down to the wire at the top of the conference and for the last playoff spot, which is much as you can ask for as a fan.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on April 19, 2014, 05:29:09 PM
If yesterday's CU-Whittier contest had that "edge of your seat" feel to it, today's first game was simply a romp in the park if you were rooting for CU. CU's offense (scoring 10 runs over 4 innings) was the irresistible force and RHP Travis McGee (3 hits, 8 K's in a 7 IP mercy game) was the immovable object. There was no suspense in this game. CU hit the ball hard and often. Barzilli was hitless (1K). For the first time all season against an opponent known for their bats, CU's pitchers have pitched the way you'd hoped they would.  They struggled against Trinity and CLU, and got shredded in the series with Pomona. I thought going in that Whittier with Barzilli leading the way was right there offensively but I can see they rely heavily on the first 5 guys in the order and if you shut down their cannons, they have a hard time scoring runs. Since the 1st inning of the first game, CU has outscored Whittier by a 19-1 margin.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 19, 2014, 05:37:31 PM
Quote from: Colorado on April 19, 2014, 05:29:09 PM
. Since the 1st inning of the first game, CU has outscored Whittier by a 19-1 margin.

If you add in the 2 games before this weekend, Whittier hs scored only 2 runs in the past 30 innings.  Chapman is rolling but they have had a tough time sweeping people this year.  I think they get this one.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on April 19, 2014, 08:23:50 PM
Chapman sweeps Whittier and takes the nightcap 5-2. In hindsight, the latter did not match up well with CU. Whittier's bats were mostly quiet, unable to string any sequential offense together while Barzilli went 2-8 with no RBI's. They scored 5 runs in the series. They had a great season when you consider their 0-5 start but like a matching bookend, they finished up 0-5 heading into the round robin. Not a good time to slip into a funk. One of CU's keys in this recent run has been the 6-7 guys in the line up that are hitting over .400 in the last month. Connor Battaglia struggled earlier this year with his timing but is squaring up on everything now (7-12, .583 BA this weekend and .338 overall). CU is getting hot at the right time.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 19, 2014, 08:46:04 PM
CLU, CU, PP, and CMS all complete sweeps this weekend. I wonder when the last time that happened was?
Anyway, updated standings (reflecting seeds for round robin):

1. CLU 18-6
2. CU 18-6
3. WC 16-8
4. Oxy 12-12 (holds tiebreaker over Redlands and La Verne)
5. UofR 12-12
6. ULV 11-12 (still needs to makeup a game against CIT)
7. P-P 11-13
8. CMS 8-16
9. CIT 0-24

Heading in to Round Robin (which begins on Wednesday), looks like CLU and CU are going to battle for the top seed and there will be a four team dog fight for the last spot in the tournament. I assume ULV has to makeup that game against CIT, but if they don't do it until after the round robin they will be the 6 seed.

Projected Schedule:
#1 CLU plays 5,6,8,9:   Redlands, ULV, CMS, CIT
#2 CU   plays 4,6,7,9:   Oxy, ULV, PP, CIT   
#3 WC  plays 4,5,7,8:   Oxy, UofR, P-P, CMS
#4 Oxy plays 2,3,8,9:   CU, WC, CMS, CIT
#5 UR   plays 1,3,7,9:   CLU, WC, PP, CIT
#6 ULV plays 1,2,7,8:   CLU, CU, PP, CMS
#7 P-P  plays 2,3,5,6:    CU, WC, UR, ULV

In the battle for the 4 seed, Oxy definitely has the easiest road not having to play CLU and getting CMS and Cal Tech. Nevertheless, any of those four teams could end up going on a run and making it to the tournament. Should be a fun week!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 19, 2014, 08:57:10 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 19, 2014, 08:46:04 PM
CLU, CU, PP, and CMS all complete sweeps this weekend. I wonder when the last time that happened was?
Anyway, updated standings (reflecting seeds for round robin):

1. CLU 18-6
2. CU 18-6
3. WC 16-8
4. Oxy 12-12 (holds tiebreaker over Redlands and La Verne)
5. UofR 12-12
6. ULV 11-12 (still needs to makeup a game against CIT)
7. P-P 11-13
8. CMS 8-16
9. CIT 0-24

Heading in to Round Robin (which begins on Wednesday), looks like CLU and CU are going to battle for the top seed and there will be a four team dog fight for the last spot in the tournament. I assume ULV has to makeup that game against CIT, but if they don't do it until after the round robin they will be the 6 seed.

Projected Schedule:
#1 CLU plays 5,6,8,9:   Redlands, ULV, CMS, CIT
#2 CU   plays 4,6,7,9:   Oxy, ULV, PP, CIT   
#3 WC  plays 4,5,7,8:   Oxy, UofR, P-P, CMS
#4 Oxy plays 2,3,8,9:   CU, WC, CMS, CIT
#5 UR   plays 1,3,7,9:   CLU, WC, PP, CIT
#6 ULV plays 1,2,7,8:   CLU, CU, PP, CMS
#7 P-P  plays 2,3,5,6:    CU, WC, UR, ULV

In the battle for the 4 seed, Oxy definitely has the easiest road not having to play CLU and getting CMS and Cal Tech. Nevertheless, any of those four teams could end up going on a run and making it to the tournament. Should be a fun week!

I have La Verne at 5 and Redlands at 6, assuming La Verne makes up the Cal Tech game before the round robin.  If they don't make it up, it drops them to 6 and moved Redlands to 5.  Anyone know if/when they are making it up?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 19, 2014, 10:25:17 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 19, 2014, 08:57:10 PM
I have La Verne at 5 and Redlands at 6, assuming La Verne makes up the Cal Tech game before the round robin.  If they don't make it up, it drops them to 6 and moved Redlands to 5.  Anyone know if/when they are making it up?

Exactly, it depends on when that makeup game is played. It's not listed on the ULV or Cal Tech schedules right now though, which is why my seedings reflect the current standings (ie without that game). Obviously ULV would like to get it in asap though, because the 5 seed gets a gimme by playing Cal Tech instead of CMS, and gets Whittier instead of Chapman.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 19, 2014, 11:51:24 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 19, 2014, 10:25:17 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 19, 2014, 08:57:10 PM
I have La Verne at 5 and Redlands at 6, assuming La Verne makes up the Cal Tech game before the round robin.  If they don't make it up, it drops them to 6 and moved Redlands to 5.  Anyone know if/when they are making it up?

Exactly, it depends on when that makeup game is played. It's not listed on the ULV or Cal Tech schedules right now though, which is why my seedings reflect the current standings (ie without that game). Obviously ULV would like to get it in asap though, because the 5 seed gets a gimme by playing Cal Tech instead of CMS, and gets Whittier instead of Chapman.

Got ya.  Although it doesnt seem like one game means much it sure does make a difference.  Interesting to see what they do.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on April 20, 2014, 12:13:03 AM
Why wouldn't the CIT-ULV game have already been re- scheduled if it was postponed in early March? Just wondering.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 20, 2014, 01:37:13 AM
Just got confirmation that PP plays:
Wed vs Whittier
Sat at ULV
Sun at Chapman
Tues vs Redlands

Reminder of the round robin schedule:
Quote from: Lets Play Two on March 18, 2014, 01:21:06 PM
SCIAC Round Robin Schedule (All teams are seeded following the last game on 4/19)

4/23/14

1st @ 8th
2nd @ 9th
3rd @ 7th

4/26/14

9th @ 4
2nd @ 4th

7th @ 5th
3rd @ 5th

8th @ 6th
1st @ 6th

4/27/14

5th @ 1st
9th @ 1st

6th @ 2nd
7th @ 2nd

4th @ 3rd
8th @ 3rd

4/29/14

5th @ 9th
6th @ 7th
4th @ 8th

It looks like that means they have ULV as the 5 seed and U of R as the 6 seed. If that's true, it must mean that they're counting the CIT-ULV game as a win for ULV, which is weird to me. Obviously ULV wins that game, but I squirm a little at taking a game like that off the field. Why weren't they able to reschedule it? Surely, as dahlby points out, there was plenty of time to do so.

Final seeding:
1. Cal Lutheran
2. Chapman
3. Whittier
4. Occidental
5. La Verne
6. Redlands
7. Pomona-Pitzer
8. CMS
9. Cal Tech

UPDATED ROUND ROBIN SCHEDULE:
#1 CLU plays 5,6,8,9:   ULV, UR, CMS, CIT
#2 CU   plays 4,6,7,9:   Oxy, UR, PP, CIT   
#3 WC  plays 4,5,7,8:   Oxy, ULV, P-P, CMS
#4 Oxy plays 2,3,8,9:   CU, WC, CMS, CIT
#5 ULV plays 1,3,7,9:   CLU, WC, PP, CIT
#6 UR   plays 1,2,7,8:   CLU, CU, PP, CMS
#7 P-P  plays 2,3,5,6:    CU, WC, ULV, UR
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 20, 2014, 03:15:07 AM
Goal of teams are finish up good enough to make SCIAC Conference tournament for Pool A bid. Let the fun begin...Team with the deepest pitching staff wins IMO...

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/teams?sort=era&r=0&pos=p

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/teams?sort=era&r=0&pos=p
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 20, 2014, 03:51:55 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 20, 2014, 03:15:07 AM
Goal of teams are finish up good enough to make SCIAC Conference tournament for Pool A bid. Let the fun begin...Team with the deepest pitching staff wins IMO...

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/teams?sort=era&r=0&pos=p

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/teams?sort=era&r=0&pos=p

Not surprising that in PP's best series of the year (and only non-Cal Tech sweep), they were able to ride their starters for 20 2/3 of 23 innings. Beyond the fresh bullpen, their schedule is also much more favorable than the three teams tied for fourth in that they have their games spread out over a full week. Friday starter (Miles) should be available on Wednesday, then Saturday guys (Bruml, Gerics) over the weekend, and Miles again on Tuesday.

Meanwhile, ULV, Redlands, and Oxy all play two on Saturday, one Sunday, and one Tuesday. They'll be left in a tough spot as their aces will only have two days rest for the final game. Case in point, Redlands will likely have to throw a fourth starter against PP's ace Miles on 4/29.

Finally, I got word that Cal Tech forfeited the ULV game. My guess would be that they didn't want to burden their geniuses with another mid-week game as finals approach. It does still seem pretty weak that ULV didn't have to play that game... but so it goes.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Richard Hamstocks on April 20, 2014, 10:13:19 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 20, 2014, 03:51:55 PM


Meanwhile, ULV, Redlands, and Oxy all play two on Saturday, one Sunday, and one Tuesday. They'll be left in a tough spot as their aces will only have two days rest for the final game. Case in point, Redlands will likely have to throw a fourth starter against PP's ace Miles on 4/29.
Rather the exception. The other two teams play Cal Tech. Their 3 starters can pitch the final game.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 20, 2014, 11:57:19 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on April 20, 2014, 10:13:19 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 20, 2014, 03:51:55 PM


Meanwhile, ULV, Redlands, and Oxy all play two on Saturday, one Sunday, and one Tuesday. They'll be left in a tough spot as their aces will only have two days rest for the final game. Case in point, Redlands will likely have to throw a fourth starter against PP's ace Miles on 4/29.
Rather the exception. The other two teams play Cal Tech. Their 3 starters can pitch the final game.
I would keep Cal Tech out of the round robin portion of the schedule. They really need to go to club baseball and drop DIII competition or do something to get competitive. Cal Tech has no chance of winning any games in the next week, so not real sure what the purpose to have them play these games. The average score for a Cal Tech game this year was 13-3. Most high school teams would beat Cal Tech. I have nothing against them playing baseball just not at the DIII level. They should try club baseball at the college level. http://www.clubbaseball.org/
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 21, 2014, 12:20:55 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on April 20, 2014, 10:13:19 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 20, 2014, 03:51:55 PM
Meanwhile, ULV, Redlands, and Oxy all play two on Saturday, one Sunday, and one Tuesday. They'll be left in a tough spot as their aces will only have two days rest for the final game. Case in point, Redlands will likely have to throw a fourth starter against PP's ace Miles on 4/29.
Rather the exception. The other two teams play Cal Tech. Their 3 starters can pitch the final game.

Good catch, I forgot about taking into account the Cal Tech games. That puts Redlands in the toughest spot, especially because they don't hold any tiebreakers- though a win over PP would result in a series split. It still means that Oxy will likely throw its #3/everyone else available against CMS's #1 in their Tuesday game, so that won't be a gimme.

As a reminder in the event of a two, three, or four way tie for the final tournament spot:
Oxy (12-12) holds tiebreaker over Redlands and La Verne
La Verne (12-12) holds tiebreaker over Redlands and PP
PP (11-13) holds tiebreaker over Redlands and Oxy
Redlands (12-12) holds the tiebreaker over... nobody relevant.

As the four seed, and with the various tiebreaker scenarios, Oxy is the only team that truly controls their own destiny. However, because all four teams have two games against CLU/CU/Whittier it's unlikely that anybody goes 4-0 and it could get really interesting. 

At the top, all three teams have locked themselves into the tournament, and it's almost certainly going to be CLU and CU fighting for the one seed, with Whittier  at three. Nevertheless:
CLU (18-6) holds tiebreaker over Chapman
Chapman (18-6) over Whittier
Whittier (16-8) over CLU
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on April 23, 2014, 08:29:06 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 20, 2014, 11:57:19 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on April 20, 2014, 10:13:19 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 20, 2014, 03:51:55 PM


Meanwhile, ULV, Redlands, and Oxy all play two on Saturday, one Sunday, and one Tuesday. They'll be left in a tough spot as their aces will only have two days rest for the final game. Case in point, Redlands will likely have to throw a fourth starter against PP's ace Miles on 4/29.
Rather the exception. The other two teams play Cal Tech. Their 3 starters can pitch the final game.
I would keep Cal Tech out of the round robin portion of the schedule. They really need to go to club baseball and drop DIII competition or do something to get competitive. Cal Tech has no chance of winning any games in the next week, so not real sure what the purpose to have them play these games. The average score for a Cal Tech game this year was 13-3. Most high school teams would beat Cal Tech. I have nothing against them playing baseball just not at the DIII level. They should try club baseball at the college level. http://www.clubbaseball.org/

I'm sorry, I have to do this......  Nice loss (errrrr win) for Chapman, as they grind out a 7 - 5 win today over CIT.  Chapman had to dig deep into their pen in the 9th, as CIT had the tying runs on 2nd and 3rd.  I had to watch Live Stats, forvige me, I was really hoping for a CIT game tying base hit...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 23, 2014, 08:41:39 PM
CLU 15-3 over CMS in 7 inning mercy.  Petersen 1hit shutout over 5 then bullpen brought in for last two innings.

CMS had played CLU tighter earlier in year, taking one of three games, but not today.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 23, 2014, 08:50:58 PM
PP loses to WC 8-6.
It was tied 5-5 going into the 9th, but Whittier hit two solo home runs (one from Barzilli) and then added another run to boot. A solo shot from Rosenbaum in the bottom half wasn't enough, and the Sagehens now find themselves in a big hole trying to get that 4 seed.

4. Oxy 12-12
5. ULV 12-12
6. UR 12-12
7. PP 11-14

PP will have to beat La Verne, Redlands, and Chapman and hope that everyone else goes 2-2 or worse, just to have a shot.

As pointed out above, Chapman scraped a win out against CIT. CLU closed the door on a 10 run limit game against CMS, so all is the same at the top:

1. CLU 19-6
2. CU 19-6
3. WC 17-8
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 23, 2014, 09:13:13 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 23, 2014, 08:50:58 PM
PP loses to WC 8-6.
It was tied 5-5 going into the 9th, but Whittier hit two solo home runs (one from Barzilli) and then added another run to boot. A solo shot from Rosenbaum in the bottom half wasn't enough, and the Sagehens now find themselves in a big hole trying to get that 4 seed.

4. Oxy 12-12
5. ULV 12-12
6. UR 12-12
7. PP 11-14

PP will have to beat La Verne, Redlands, and Chapman and hope that everyone else goes 2-2 or worse, just to have a shot.

As pointed out above, Chapman scraped a win out against CIT. CLU closed the door on a 10 run limit game against CMS, so all is the same at the top:

1. CLU 19-6
2. CU 19-6
3. WC 17-8
I expect CU and CLU to meet in the SCIAC conference tournament championship game. Upsets can and will happen. Chapman almost got embarrassed today
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 23, 2014, 11:48:21 PM
A shout-out to Cal Tech pitcher Daniel Chou who had a strong 8-inning outing after a rocky 1st.  116 pitches and 72 strikes.) Chou even went 2 for 4 with a stolen base and scored 2 runs!

Chapman 7 Cal Tech 5.

http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2014/boxscores/20140423_9nv5.xml
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on April 24, 2014, 12:15:24 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 23, 2014, 11:48:21 PM
A shout-out to Cal Tech pitcher Daniel Chou who had a strong 8-inning outing after a rocky 1st.  116 pitches and 72 strikes.) Chou even went 2 for 4 with a stolen base and scored 2 runs!

Chapman 7 Cal Tech 5.

http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2014/boxscores/20140423_9nv5.xml
They BELONG. :)
They used to be bad in hoops, but now are not an easy win.
They just need more pitching.  Most baseball teams can say the same thing.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 24, 2014, 12:44:55 PM
Cal Tech proved me wrong
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 24, 2014, 12:46:13 PM
Cal Tech proved me wrong
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 24, 2014, 02:10:46 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on April 24, 2014, 12:15:24 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 23, 2014, 11:48:21 PM
A shout-out to Cal Tech pitcher Daniel Chou who had a strong 8-inning outing after a rocky 1st.  116 pitches and 72 strikes.) Chou even went 2 for 4 with a stolen base and scored 2 runs!

Chapman 7 Cal Tech 5.

http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2014/boxscores/20140423_9nv5.xml
They BELONG. :)
They used to be bad in hoops, but now are not an easy win.
They just need more pitching.  Most baseball teams can say the same thing.

I gotta disagree. It's great that Cal Tech put up a good game against Chapman. I really hope they continue to improve, and maybe they can steal a game from someone in the next few years.

But let's be honest, even a team that can win 1 of 28 conference games is still way overmatched and doesn't belong in the same division as everyone else. Especially considering that teams treat them like a practice game. And they can't even get the guys together to make up a conference game that gets postponed for rain, or play a 40 game game schedule.

Every year a DIII team or two will steal a game from a DI team. Does that mean they should be in the same league as the DI team? I don't think so (I know there are other factors there, but still). I think it's great that Cal Tech makes their students play sports, I'm sure its a welcome distraction from incredibly complex, stressful studies. And I think they should continue doing so, just in another league/division/conference where they can actually compete and have a chance to experience winning and true competition. Assuming that the club option is viable, that makes way more sense than continuing to trot them out in these various sports to have their asses kicked every game. A win every few years (which, at this point, is still wishful thinking) isn't enough.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 24, 2014, 05:24:43 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 24, 2014, 02:10:46 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on April 24, 2014, 12:15:24 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 23, 2014, 11:48:21 PM
A shout-out to Cal Tech pitcher Daniel Chou who had a strong 8-inning outing after a rocky 1st.  116 pitches and 72 strikes.) Chou even went 2 for 4 with a stolen base and scored 2 runs!

Chapman 7 Cal Tech 5.

http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2014/boxscores/20140423_9nv5.xml
They BELONG. :)
They used to be bad in hoops, but now are not an easy win.
They just need more pitching.  Most baseball teams can say the same thing.

I gotta disagree. It's great that Cal Tech put up a good game against Chapman. I really hope they continue to improve, and maybe they can steal a game from someone in the next few years.

But let's be honest, even a team that can win 1 of 28 conference games is still way overmatched and doesn't belong in the same division as everyone else. Especially considering that teams treat them like a practice game. And they can't even get the guys together to make up a conference game that gets postponed for rain, or play a 40 game game schedule.

Every year a DIII team or two will steal a game from a DI team. Does that mean they should be in the same league as the DI team? I don't think so (I know there are other factors there, but still). I think it's great that Cal Tech makes their students play sports, I'm sure its a welcome distraction from incredibly complex, stressful studies. And I think they should continue doing so, just in another league/division/conference where they can actually compete and have a chance to experience winning and true competition. Assuming that the club option is viable, that makes way more sense than continuing to trot them out in these various sports to have their asses kicked every game. A win every few years (which, at this point, is still wishful thinking) isn't enough.
I agree
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 24, 2014, 05:43:48 PM
First regional rankings were published today, with Cal Lu and Chapman in the 3-4 spots:
http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2014/04/regional-rankings-week-one (http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2014/04/regional-rankings-week-one)

1. Linfield                26-2
2. Trinity                 30-7
3. Cal Lu                 27-8
4. Chapman            23-9
5. Concordia Tx       23-10
6. George Fox          22-10

I don't know much about the other conferences this year, but the rankings don't seem all that suprising. The biggest gripe you might be able to make is having the two SCIAC schools up there when the Texas teams and NWC just dominated the SCIAC at the beginning of the year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 24, 2014, 06:30:40 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 24, 2014, 05:43:48 PM
First regional rankings were published today, with Cal Lu and Chapman in the 3-4 spots:
http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2014/04/regional-rankings-week-one (http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2014/04/regional-rankings-week-one)

1. Linfield                26-2
2. Trinity                 30-7
3. Cal Lu                 27-8
4. Chapman            23-9
5. Concordia Tx       23-10
6. George Fox          22-10

I don't know much about the other conferences this year, but the rankings don't seem all that suprising. The biggest gripe you might be able to make is having the two SCIAC schools up there when the Texas teams and NWC just dominated the SCIAC at the beginning of the year.

It's true that the NWC did pretty well against the SCIAC at the start of the year but I think you have to look at which teams they were- Redlands, Whittier, La Verne. Fox swept Oxy, Fox beat Pomona, Pomona beat PLU and got swept by Linfid.  Cal Lu has only played PLU (beat them) and I am not sure if Chapman has played a NWC school this year. Chapman struggled on their trip to TX but I can assure you that Chapman is a much better team now.

The SCIAC's best can compete with the NWC's beat and the best in TX and I think they showed that last year in the regional.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ChapFan on April 24, 2014, 06:42:56 PM
What I like about this Chapman team is that there are 6 players left from the 2011 World Series team. They are hungry for that one last chance to get back to Appleton. The pitching is deep enough for the run.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 24, 2014, 07:14:02 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 24, 2014, 06:30:40 PM
It's true that the NWC did pretty well against the SCIAC at the start of the year but I think you have to look at which teams they were- Redlands, Whittier, La Verne. Fox swept Oxy, Fox beat Pomona, Pomona beat PLU and got swept by Linfid.  Cal Lu has only played PLU (beat them) and I am not sure if Chapman has played a NWC school this year. Chapman struggled on their trip to TX but I can assure you that Chapman is a much better team now.

The SCIAC's best can compete with the NWC's beat and the best in TX and I think they showed that last year in the regional.

Fair point, especially re: Chapman. They've been one of the hottest teams in the West... And two of those losses were to Trinity who's obviously pretty damn good.

I think there's also a good argument for PLU over Fox once you look a little deeper than NWC standings...
Take out their non-DIII games and I think they're 21-11.
Most importantly they took 2/3 from Fox (not to mention swept Willamette who swept Fox).
They're 5-2 against the SCIAC (losses to CLU, PP and wins against WC, ULV, WC, CMSx2).
And I'm pretty sure they have the strongest SOS in the West (need to go double check on that).

Thoughts?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 25, 2014, 12:34:44 AM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 24, 2014, 07:14:02 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 24, 2014, 06:30:40 PM
It's true that the NWC did pretty well against the SCIAC at the start of the year but I think you have to look at which teams they were- Redlands, Whittier, La Verne. Fox swept Oxy, Fox beat Pomona, Pomona beat PLU and got swept by Linfid.  Cal Lu has only played PLU (beat them) and I am not sure if Chapman has played a NWC school this year. Chapman struggled on their trip to TX but I can assure you that Chapman is a much better team now.

The SCIAC's best can compete with the NWC's beat and the best in TX and I think they showed that last year in the regional.

Fair point, especially re: Chapman. They've been one of the hottest teams in the West... And two of those losses were to Trinity who's obviously pretty damn good.

I think there's also a good argument for PLU over Fox once you look a little deeper than NWC standings...
Take out their non-DIII games and I think they're 21-11.
Most importantly they took 2/3 from Fox (not to mention swept Willamette who swept Fox).
They're 5-2 against the SCIAC (losses to CLU, PP and wins against WC, ULV, WC, CMSx2).
And I'm pretty sure they have the strongest SOS in the West (need to go double check on that).

Thoughts?

agreed. I would think PLU would be higher but what do I know?  GF still has Linfield on the schedule and that could hurt them or really help them. They are a few minutes from Linfiels so who knows what might happen there.
If Cal Lu and Chapman play for the title I think both get in. If Cal lulu wins the SCIAC tourney I think it will be tough for Chapman to get I. Simply because they will have 2 more losses.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 26, 2014, 05:58:17 PM
P-P blows another late lead and falls to ULV 6-3. They are effectively eliminated from the 4 seed.

With Oxy's win over CIT and Redlands' win over CMS yesterday, there's a three way tie for fourth at 13-12 going into the afternoon games.

Chapman and Oxy should be a very good, and very significant game this afternoon. A Chapman win keeps them in the hunt for the #1 seed, while an Oxy win gives them a leg up for the 4 seed (as they hold the tiebreakers).

I expect CLU to take care of business against Redlands, but if UR can pull it out that would be HUGE for them. CLU wants and expects a win in their quest for the 1 seed.

And ULV could put themselves in a comparatively great position if they can beat Whittier and get losses from Oxy/UR.

....

Quick PP homer rant:
Was surprised to see them lose again late so I went back through some of the numbers. This was an overall decent team that hit the ball well but just couldn't hold leads or give the offense much opportunity to come back late in games. Few interesting stats:

-In over half of of PP's SCIAC losses (8/15), the were leading or tied in the 7th inning or later.
-Overall, PP was 1-17 when tied or trailing after the 6th inning
-Though they outscored opponents 99-90 in the first three innings of games, they were outscored 119-89 from the 7th inning on. Within that, they were outscored 37-8 in the ninth inning or later.
-PP gave up 217 earned runs and scored 216 earned runs, but were still outscored by 27 runs overall.
-28% of the runs PP gave up were unearned.

Basically, the issues this year were in the bullpen and on defense. Many of the errors I recall being late in games. The silver lining is that next year they only lose 36 of 314 innings on the mound, and one bat from the starting lineup (their 8 hitter). They are expecting a LOT of pitching coming in (7 Pitcher onlys and 4 dual guys), plus Rosenbaum and Yen should be healthy and throwing. The young arms that threw this year will be more experienced (I think Gerics has the stuff to be a very successful pitcher in the SCIAC). I expect big things from them, but tough to see such a down year given the success this program has seen in the last decade.
<end rant>
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 26, 2014, 09:37:38 PM
Chapman beats Oxy 2-1
ULV beats Whittier 12-2
CLU beats Redlands 5-4

Updated Standings:
1. CLU 20-6 (v. ULV, v. CIT)
2. CU 20-6 (v. UR, v. PP)
3. WC 17-9 (v. Oxy, v. CMS)
4. ULV 14-12 (@ CLU, @CIT)
5. Oxy 13-13 (@ WC, @CMS)

6. UR 13-13 (@CU, @PP)

Eliminated:
7. PP 11-15
8. CMS 9-17
9. CIT 0-26

ULV is a game up on Redlands, with a Cal Tech game to play meaning their worst finish would be 15-13. Even if Redlands wins out, that would leave them in a tie with La Verne who holds the tiebreaker (as does Oxy if they win out). So Redlands is pretty much eliminated.

That means ULV advances to the tournament with a win against CLU or an Oxy loss to Whittier or CMS. Whittier is reeling and ULV hasn't beaten CLU yet this year, so the fight for the four seed is still very much alive.

CLU also has a Cal Tech game, so Chapman would have to beat Redlands and PP and hope La Verne pulls out a game against CLU in order to get the one seed. I don't see that happening.

My predicted final seedings:
1. CLU
2. CU
3. WC (already locked in)
4. ULV

5. Oxy
6. UR
7. PP
8. CMS
9. CIT
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 27, 2014, 02:23:26 AM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 26, 2014, 09:37:38 PM
Chapman beats Oxy 2-1
ULV beats Whittier 12-2
CLU beats Redlands 5-4

Updated Standings:
1. CLU 20-6 (v. ULV, v. CIT)
2. CU 20-6 (v. UR, v. PP)
3. WC 17-9 (v. Oxy, v. CMS)
4. ULV 14-12 (@ CLU, @CIT)
5. Oxy 13-13 (@ WC, @CMS)

6. UR 13-13 (@CU, @PP)

Eliminated:
7. PP 11-15
8. CMS 9-17
9. CIT 0-26

ULV is a game up on Redlands, with a Cal Tech game to play meaning their worst finish would be 15-13. Even if Redlands wins out, that would leave them in a tie with La Verne who holds the tiebreaker (as does Oxy if they win out). So Redlands is pretty much eliminated.

That means ULV advances to the tournament with a win against CLU or an Oxy loss to Whittier or CMS. Whittier is reeling and ULV hasn't beaten CLU yet this year, so the fight for the four seed is still very much alive.

CLU also has a Cal Tech game, so Chapman would have to beat Redlands and PP and hope La Verne pulls out a game against CLU in order to get the one seed. I don't see that happening.

My predicted final seedings:
1. CLU
2. CU
3. WC (already locked in)
4. ULV

5. Oxy
6. UR
7. PP
8. CMS
9. CIT

Teddy, I read through all of this and I can't disagree.  After Sundays LV vs CLU, everything will be decided.   If CLU wins, they are #1.  If they lose, CU can win out and be #1.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on April 27, 2014, 12:02:41 PM
That finish sounds about right. Oxy had its chances to knock off Chapman yesterday but left 12 runners on base (8 in scoring position) and lost it in the 9th on a muffed GB that should've been the 3rd out. Oxy's Kling deserved a better fate. He doesn't throw that hard but his ball moves all over the place and CU's line up had its struggles trying to square up on the ball.  My question is what is the conference tournament format after the first round?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 27, 2014, 05:50:40 PM
It appears that the seeding for SCIAC tournament is set to me.

1. CLU
2. CU
3. Whittier
4. La Verne

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 27, 2014, 06:32:53 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 27, 2014, 05:50:40 PM
It appears that the seeding for SCIAC tournament is set to me.

1. CLU
2. CU
3. Whittier
4. La Verne

I could be wrong but if Oxy and La Verne both win on Tuesday I believe Oxy will get the #4 seed since they have the tie-breaker with La Verne.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 27, 2014, 07:07:46 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 27, 2014, 06:32:53 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 27, 2014, 05:50:40 PM
It appears that the seeding for SCIAC tournament is set to me.

1. CLU
2. CU
3. Whittier
4. La Verne

I could be wrong but if Oxy and La Verne both win on Tuesday I believe Oxy will get the #4 seed since they have the tie-breaker with La Verne.

That's correct. La Verne needed to beat CLU in order to get the 4 seed wrapped up. Now they'll have to hope Oxy drops their game against CMS. Not likely... And technically if Redlands were to win, Oxy lost to CMS, AND ULV lost to Cal Tech ( ;D) then Redlands would be the 4 seed.

So basically, assuming an Oxy win against CMS:
1. Cal Lu
2. Chapman
3. Whittier
4. Occidental
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 27, 2014, 07:17:08 PM
Quote from: Colorado on April 27, 2014, 12:02:41 PM
That finish sounds about right. Oxy had its chances to knock off Chapman yesterday but left 12 runners on base (8 in scoring position) and lost it in the 9th on a muffed GB that should've been the 3rd out. Oxy's Kling deserved a better fate. He doesn't throw that hard but his ball moves all over the place and CU's line up had its struggles trying to square up on the ball.  My question is what is the conference tournament format after the first round?

I expect they'll keep it same as last year:

Fri. #3 at 2
Fri. #4 at 1

Sat at #1- winners play
- Losers play
- Winner of losers play loser of winners

Sun at Highest remaining Seed
- Winner of third Sat game plays winner of winners for championship.
- second game if necessary


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 28, 2014, 04:09:07 PM
Looks like Seeds 1,2,3 are wrapped up with seed #4 TBD this week for the conference tournament.

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/standings
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 29, 2014, 01:33:36 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 28, 2014, 04:09:07 PM
Looks like Seeds 1,2,3 are wrapped up with seed #4 TBD this week for the conference tournament.

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/standings
If Occidental wins they will be #4 seed.
If Occidental loses and La Verne and Redlands lose then Occidental will be #4 seed
If Occidental loses and La Verne wins and Redlands loses then La Verne will be #4 seed
If Redland wins and La Verne and Occidental loses then Redlands will be #4 seed

Am I right ?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 29, 2014, 01:35:52 PM
We need Abbott and Costello....
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 29, 2014, 01:40:48 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 29, 2014, 01:33:36 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 28, 2014, 04:09:07 PM
Looks like Seeds 1,2,3 are wrapped up with seed #4 TBD this week for the conference tournament.

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/standings
If Occidental wins they will be #4 seed.
If Occidental loses and La Verne and Redlands lose then Occidental will be #4 seed
If Occidental loses and La Verne wins and Redlands loses then La Verne will be #4 seed
If Redland wins and La Verne and Occidental loses then Redlands will be #4 seed

Am I right ?
Yes,  and also:

If Occidental loses and La Verne and Redlands win, then LaVerne will be #4 seed.

LaVerne will be scoreboard watching to see if CMS, who is 1-1 at home vs Occi, can win.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on April 29, 2014, 04:34:50 PM
Just lobbing this one out there: Laverty told his team in passing that if Oxy and LV or Redlands end up with the same record, there will be a "play in" game tomorrow rather than a head to head tiebreaker. This is in accordance with the "conference by laws". The tiebreaker is to be used for seeding purposes.  I guess we will find out.   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 29, 2014, 04:44:29 PM
Quote from: Colorado on April 29, 2014, 04:34:50 PM
Just lobbing this one out there: Laverty told his team in passing that if Oxy and LV or Redlands end up with the same record, there will be a "play in" game tomorrow rather than a head to head tiebreaker. This is in accordance with the "conference by laws". The tiebreaker is to be used for seeding purposes.  I guess we will find out.

Seems odd but nothing the SCIAC does surprises me.  Regardless, that would hurt the 4th place team a ton by having to throw another arm tomorrow. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 29, 2014, 04:47:20 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 29, 2014, 04:44:29 PM
Quote from: Colorado on April 29, 2014, 04:34:50 PM
Just lobbing this one out there: Laverty told his team in passing that if Oxy and LV or Redlands end up with the same record, there will be a "play in" game tomorrow rather than a head to head tiebreaker. This is in accordance with the "conference by laws". The tiebreaker is to be used for seeding purposes.  I guess we will find out.

Seems odd but nothing the SCIAC does surprises me.  Regardless, that would hurt the 4th place team a ton by having to throw another arm tomorrow.

JP, yes it does seem odd that Typical tie-breakers wouldn't be used.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 29, 2014, 08:40:40 PM
CMS and PP play the role of spoiler and beat Occ and Redlands.  Congrats to LV for their win amd finishing 4th.

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Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on April 29, 2014, 08:43:59 PM
Wow, as it turns out the round robin set of games really shook things out a bit.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 29, 2014, 09:31:50 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on April 29, 2014, 08:43:59 PM
Wow, as it turns out the round robin set of games really shook things out a bit.

Yes,in Round Robin:

LV 3-1
Occi 2-2
Redlands 2-2
P0 1-3

LV finishes in fourth by 1 game.  Round robin definitely made a.difference.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 29, 2014, 09:44:30 PM
Wow gotta love college baseball ! Congrats to LV as well as PP and CMS for making a difference. Now LV can take some momentum into CLU, who knows what can happen?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 29, 2014, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 27, 2014, 05:50:40 PM
It appears that the seeding for SCIAC tournament is set to me.

1. CLU
2. CU
3. Whittier
4. La Verne


Check the date when I said this....I guess I got lucky.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on April 29, 2014, 11:24:16 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 29, 2014, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 27, 2014, 05:50:40 PM
It appears that the seeding for SCIAC tournament is set to me.

1. CLU
2. CU
3. Whittier
4. La Verne



Check the date when I said this....I guess I got lucky.

Are you Tim The Enchanter??
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 29, 2014, 11:57:12 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on April 29, 2014, 11:24:16 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 29, 2014, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 27, 2014, 05:50:40 PM
It appears that the seeding for SCIAC tournament is set to me.

1. CLU
2. CU
3. Whittier
4. La Verne



Check the date when I said this....I guess I got lucky.

Are you Tim The Enchanter??
More old school....Carnac the Magnificent
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 30, 2014, 09:09:04 AM
That is too funny. I prefer Tim the Enchanter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZJZK6rzjns

Whatagame you have unlocked the mystery of D3baseball. Spence is living in the Cave of the Caerbannog!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on April 30, 2014, 10:10:32 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 29, 2014, 11:57:12 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on April 29, 2014, 11:24:16 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 29, 2014, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 27, 2014, 05:50:40 PM
It appears that the seeding for SCIAC tournament is set to me.

1. CLU
2. CU
3. Whittier
4. La Verne



Check the date when I said this....I guess I got lucky.

Are you Tim The Enchanter??
More old school....Carnac the Magnificent

Nice! Loved Carnac!

Mmmmmmmm, may an unclean Yak sit on your lunch.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on April 30, 2014, 10:12:50 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 30, 2014, 09:09:04 AM
That is too funny. I prefer Tim the Enchanter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZJZK6rzjns

Whatagame you have unlocked the mystery of D3baseball. Spence is living in the Cave of the Caerbannog!

Beware The Rabbit!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 30, 2014, 11:16:25 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 29, 2014, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 27, 2014, 05:50:40 PM
It appears that the seeding for SCIAC tournament is set to me.

1. CLU
2. CU
3. Whittier
4. La Verne




Check the date when I said this....I guess I got lucky.

CD3:  Can you send me the lottery #'s for tonight!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 30, 2014, 11:46:19 AM
Friday, May 2, 2014         
Game 1                        3 p.m.             #4 La Verne  at #1 Cal Lutheran
Game 2                        3 p.m.             #3 Whittier at  #2 Chapman

Saturday, May 3, 2014 (At Cal Lutheran)
Game 3                        9 a.m.             Loser Game 1  vs.  Loser Game 2
                                                         (Loser of Game 3 eliminated)
Game 4                        12 p.m.           Winner Game 1  vs.  Winner Game 2
Game 5                        3 p.m.             Winner Game 3  vs.  Loser Game 4
                                                          (Loser of game 5 eliminated)

Sunday, May 4, 2014 (@ Highest Remaining Seed)
Game 6                        11 a.m.            Winner Game 4  vs.  Winner Game 5
Game 7                        3:00 p.m.         Only if necessary
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 30, 2014, 11:54:10 AM
Tourney seeds and their records vs the others in the SCIAC Tourney in 2014.

1. CLU 8-3, (2-1 vs CU, 4-0 vs LV, 2-2 vs WC)
2. CU 7-2, (1-2 vs CLU, 3-0 vs WC, 3-0 vs LV)
3. WC 4-7, (2-2 vs CLU, 0-3 vs CU, 2-2 vs LV)
4. LV 2-9, (0-4 vs CLU, 0-3 vs CU, 2-2 vs WC)

What does this mean....absolutely nothing!  All of these teams have played each other recently so they know plenty about each other.  I will be very interested to see who comes out of this as the overall winner.  I would say CLU is the hottest team right now with Chapman playing well too.  Chapman seems to have been a little "off" during the round-robin but I really don't look into that too much.  Whittier is 2-8 in their last 10 and they have really fallen off.  La Verne better send a big thank you letter to Claremont for knocking off Oxy yesterday.  Oxy had the 4th seed in the palm of their hands and really choked it away.  Not sure how Redlands could let their starter go so long while getting knocked all over the place yesterday.  That was a must-win and you can't let a guy go long if he gets hit around.  All in all, should be a good conference tourney.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 30, 2014, 02:55:14 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 30, 2014, 11:54:10 AM
Tourney seeds and their records vs the others in the SCIAC Tourney in 2014.

1. CLU 8-3, (2-1 vs CU, 4-0 vs LV, 2-2 vs WC)
2. CU 7-2, (1-2 vs CLU, 3-0 vs WC, 3-0 vs LV)
3. WC 4-7, (2-2 vs CLU, 0-3 vs CU, 2-2 vs LV)
4. LV 2-9, (0-4 vs CLU, 0-3 vs CU, 2-2 vs WC)

...

La Verne better send a big thank you letter to Claremont for knocking off Oxy yesterday.  Oxy had the 4th seed in the palm of their hands and really choked it away.  Not sure how Redlands could let their starter go so long while getting knocked all over the place yesterday.  That was a must-win and you can't let a guy go long if he gets hit around.  All in all, should be a good conference tourney.

I'm quite familiar with CMS playing spoiler... they did it in 2010 when PP needed CMS to beat Redlands on the last day of the year for the SCIAC Championship and the autobid to the regionals. CMS turned it on and crushed Redlands' best pitchers. They've always been one of those teams that can surprise you and beat just about anybody on the right day. Very talented, but usually don't have the cohesion/discipline necessary for consistency.

Anyway, I'm going to play the favorites this weekend. Bracket challenge? Buffet where you at?

Friday-
CLU over ULV
CU over WC

Saturday-
ULV over WC (WC eliminated)
CLU over CU
CU over ULV (ULV eliminated)

Sunday-
CU over CLU
CLU over CU Championship Game.

I still think CU gets an at large bid, but that will depend on conference tournaments in the West and across the country.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfan_2001 on April 30, 2014, 03:45:47 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on April 30, 2014, 11:46:19 AM
Friday, May 2, 2014         
Game 1                        3 p.m.             #4 La Verne  at #1 Cal Lutheran
Game 2                        3 p.m.             #3 Whittier at  #2 Chapman

Saturday, May 3, 2014 (At Cal Lutheran)
Game 3                        9 a.m.             Loser Game 1  vs.  Loser Game 2
                                                         (Loser of Game 3 eliminated)
Game 4                        12 p.m.           Winner Game 1  vs.  Winner Game 2
Game 5                        3 p.m.             Winner Game 3  vs.  Loser Game 4
                                                          (Loser of game 5 eliminated)

Sunday, May 4, 2014 (@ Highest Remaining Seed)
Game 6                        11 a.m.            Winner Game 4  vs.  Winner Game 5
Game 7                        3:00 p.m.         Only if necessary
hosting a 3 games in a day tourney should have to have lights.  It is a shame that someone has to play at 9am, meaning home BP starts at 7am.  That would be terrible, IMO
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 30, 2014, 03:49:19 PM
Quote from: tigerfan_2001 on April 30, 2014, 03:45:47 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on April 30, 2014, 11:46:19 AM
Friday, May 2, 2014         
Game 1                        3 p.m.             #4 La Verne  at #1 Cal Lutheran
Game 2                        3 p.m.             #3 Whittier at  #2 Chapman

Saturday, May 3, 2014 (At Cal Lutheran)
Game 3                        9 a.m.             Loser Game 1  vs.  Loser Game 2
                                                         (Loser of Game 3 eliminated)
Game 4                        12 p.m.           Winner Game 1  vs.  Winner Game 2
Game 5                        3 p.m.             Winner Game 3  vs.  Loser Game 4
                                                          (Loser of game 5 eliminated)

Sunday, May 4, 2014 (@ Highest Remaining Seed)
Game 6                        11 a.m.            Winner Game 4  vs.  Winner Game 5
Game 7                        3:00 p.m.         Only if necessary
hosting a 3 games in a day tourney should have to have lights.  It is a shame that someone has to play at 9am, meaning home BP starts at 7am.  That would be terrible, IMO

Only 1 school in the SCIAC has lights and that's Chapman.  I don't disagree that a 9am start is rough but Cal Lu earned the hosting by winning the regular season.  I don't see this changing unless they added an extra day to avoid the 9am start, although this is also finals time and that's probably not likely.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 30, 2014, 04:07:15 PM
I agree with Jack they earned it, comes with the territory. BTW their field is one of the best in DIII baseball (sans the lights) and as good as many D1 programs fields. Good place to have a tournament.  I think the residents in the area have prevented them getting lights if I am not mistaken.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfan_2001 on April 30, 2014, 04:12:07 PM
Not questioning the necessity of starting at 9am, just saying it sucks to play a baseball game at 9 am.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 30, 2014, 04:49:41 PM
Quote from: tigerfan_2001 on April 30, 2014, 04:12:07 PM
Not questioning the necessity of starting at 9am, just saying it sucks to play a baseball game at 9 am.

One thing that could be done is play the whole tourney in Rancho Cucamonga which is located in a decent place for all scholls except Cal Lu.  And yes, playing at 9am is not fun.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 30, 2014, 06:47:23 PM
Quote from: tigerfan_2001 on April 30, 2014, 04:12:07 PM
Not questioning the necessity of starting at 9am, just saying it sucks to play a baseball game at 9 am.

Not that either teams needs it, but it's extra motivation to make sure they're not in the losers bracket.
Plus, if they win the 9:00am game they'll have to wait to play in the 3:00pm game.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on May 01, 2014, 06:18:10 PM
Heading in to the weekend, CLU and Chapman are sitting nicely in the regional rankings:

1. Linfield      29-2
2. Cal Lu       31-8
3. Trinity       30-8
4. Chapman   26-10
5. Concordia  25-11
6. Pac Lu       21-11

From last week, CLU jumped Trinity to #2. They've all but guaranteed a bid even if they don't get the autobid.

Chapman will have a tougher road, as not winning the tournament adds two losses, makes their out come at best 29-12. That record has gotten SCIAC teams in before, but it will depend on how many favorites across the country are upset in conference tournaments.

Chapman's SOS has to be pretty good, but their record against regionally ranked opponents isn't awesome at 2-4 (0-2 v. Trinity, 1-2 v. CLU, 1-0 v. Kean).

As for in-region competition:
PLU is done and won't add any losses (very strong SOS: 3 on Massey, but 0-5 v Regionally ranked opponents)
Any at large from the ASC will have at least 13 losses.
Trinity losing the SCAC tournament would make it that much tougher, as they are pretty much guaranteed a bid. 

As a lot of you are quick to remind us, the only way to guarantee getting into the tournament is by winning on the field and taking it out of the hands of the committee. Chapman (and Whittier and La Verne) will have a chance to do that this weekend. Should be fun.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 01, 2014, 07:13:56 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on April 30, 2014, 06:47:23 PM
Quote from: tigerfan_2001 on April 30, 2014, 04:12:07 PM
Not questioning the necessity of starting at 9am, just saying it sucks to play a baseball game at 9 am.

Not that either teams needs it, but it's extra motivation to make sure they're not in the losers bracket.
Plus, if they win the 9:00am game they'll have to wait to play in the 3:00pm game.

The SCIAC bracket is updated and it now shows the first game on Sat is 8:30am.
If 9:00am was tough, it just got tougher with 8:30am.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on May 01, 2014, 07:28:27 PM
At least the early morning game will beat the heat a bit, as I suspect it will still be a tad toasty in the San Fernando Valley this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 02, 2014, 07:38:20 PM
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/20140501rhul4n

Friday, May 2, 2014

            Game 1                        3 p.m.             #4 La Verne  at #1 Cal Lutheran

            Game 2                        3 p.m.             #3 Whittier at  #2 Chapman

Saturday, May 3, 2014 (At Cal Lutheran)


            Game 3                        9 a.m.  8:30 AM          Loser Game 1  vs.  Loser Game 2

                                                                        (Loser of Game 3 eliminated)

            Game 4                        12 p.m.           Winner Game 1  vs.  Winner Game 2


            Game 5                        3 p.m.             Winner Game 3  vs.  Loser Game 4

                                                                        (Loser of game 5 eliminated)

Sunday, May 4, 2014 (@ Highest Remaining Seed)


            Game 6                        11 a.m.            Winner Game 4  vs.  Winner Game 5

            Game 7                        3:00 p.m.         Only if necessary
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 02, 2014, 08:42:47 PM
Second Annual SCIAC Baseball Post Season Tournament
Hosted by Cal Lutheran   
George "Sparky" Anderson Field at Ullman Stadium
Thousand Oaks, Calif.
May 2-4, 2014

http://www.clusports.com/pages/tournaments/2014bsb_SCIACPostSeasonTournament.php
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on May 02, 2014, 08:58:40 PM
Two good games, but no surprise:

Chapman edges in Whittier 2-1 in a pitchers duel.
Osaki goes 7.1 with 11K's 0BB, Riddle gets the save striking out 4 in 1.2IP, while Garcia goes all 8 innings for Whittier on only 88 pitches.

CLU beats ULV 8-5
CLU started Hebda, then had Roth come in for the three inning save. I have a feeling he's going to get a lot of innings this weekend...
Peterson 3 for 5 1R
Dellavalle 3 for 4 2R, 1 RBI

That means tomorrow morning
Whittier- La Verne @8:30AM
Cal Lu- Chapman @ noon
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on May 02, 2014, 10:36:06 PM
In the Whittier-Chapman game, well pitched on both sides. Game was decided in the 7th when the winning run scored on a double play. Whittier had their opportunities especially in the 8th when they had 2 on with 1 out but Riddle came in to strike out 2 to end the threat. I see Cal Lu started their #3 SP today so I'm guessing Peterson starts tomorrow versus CU. My other guess is that CU counters with McGee. The latter has given up 3 ER in his last 44 innings. I'm a little biased but my money is on Scooby.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 02, 2014, 11:47:26 PM
Quote from: Colorado on May 02, 2014, 10:36:06 PM
In the Whittier-Chapman game, well pitched on both sides. Game was decided in the 7th when the winning run scored on a double play. Whittier had their opportunities especially in the 8th when they had 2 on with 1 out but Riddle came in to strike out 2 to end the threat. I see Cal Lu started their #3 SP today so I'm guessing Peterson starts tomorrow versus CU. My other guess is that CU counters with McGee. The latter has given up 3 ER in his last 44 innings. I'm a little biased but my money is on Scooby.
Chapman can take a big step getting back to the regionals with a win at CLU on Saturday. Several players on the Chapman roster also made the trip and contribute in 2011 when the made it all the way to the DIII Championship game in Appleton. Will the experience for 2011 help in 2014.

McGee has had only 2 bad games all year out of 15 games in 2014. He has dominated teams in all the other games.

In 2011 McGee struck out a career-high nine and allowed just one earned run in a complete game win over Buena Vista (Iowa) to pitch the Panthers into the national championship game...named to National Championships All-Tournament team.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 03, 2014, 10:01:25 AM
Quote from: Colorado on May 02, 2014, 10:36:06 PM
In the Whittier-Chapman game, well pitched on both sides. Game was decided in the 7th when the winning run scored on a double play. Whittier had their opportunities especially in the 8th when they had 2 on with 1 out but Riddle came in to strike out 2 to end the threat. I see Cal Lu started their #3 SP today so I'm guessing Peterson starts tomorrow versus CU. My other guess is that CU counters with McGee. The latter has given up 3 ER in his last 44 innings. I'm a little biased but my money is on Scooby.

I'm not sure whether Petersen will go for CLU, or whether they will go with Scott Peters.  Earlier this year Peters shutout CLU 6-0 at CU.  In another big game this year, Peters shutout PLU/Lubking 3-0.
If it's McGee for CU, he went got the win going 5 innings and giving up 8ER against CLU earlier in the year.

Looking forward to an exciting game.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on May 03, 2014, 02:26:45 PM
Wow Whittier scores 4 in the bottom of the ninth to win 5-4! Capped off by, you guessed it, Barzilli driving in the winning run. Wish I had the video feed going for that one.

They will await the loser of the Chapman-CLU game and have kept their postseason alive. ULV is finished, and a tough way to go out. They played some good baseball this year though, and their seniors graduate with a 2012 trip to the regionals under their belt.

Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on May 03, 2014, 10:01:25 AM
Quote from: Colorado on May 02, 2014, 10:36:06 PM
I see Cal Lu started their #3 SP today so I'm guessing Peterson starts tomorrow versus CU. My other guess is that CU counters with McGee. The latter has given up 3 ER in his last 44 innings. I'm a little biased but my money is on Scooby.

I'm not sure whether Petersen will go for CLU, or whether they will go with Scott Peters.  Earlier this year Peters shutout CLU 6-0 at CU.  In another big game this year, Peters shutout PLU/Lubking 3-0.
If it's McGee for CU, he went got the win going 5 innings and giving up 8ER against CLU earlier in the year.

Looking forward to an exciting game.

Looks like CLU is going with Petersen and Chapman with McGee

UPDATE: CLU has 6-0 lead in the ninth after scoring 5 runs in the 7th inning.
Seems like McGee was having trouble finding the zone all day, and he gets pulled after giving 6.1 IP, 7H, 4R, 4ER, 7BB, 6K

Petersen is still going for CLU, with 7 IP so far. Chapman has gotten plenty of baserunners (6 hits, 4 walks) but haven't been able to bring them in. Left at least one man on base in every inning but one, and have left 10 guys on base total. Yikes!

**EDIT: Cal Lu wins. Chapman scores 2 in the 9th but it's not enough as they fall 6-2 and get a rematch with Whittier this afternoon. 
Carbajal went 4 for 4 for Chapman, but it wasn't til the ninth that anyone was on base or that he was able to get around to score.
Cal Lu spread their hits out throughout the lineup, but Petersen helped himself with two knocks and DellaValle reached base four times and scored twice.

CLU will have Peters waiting for either Chapman or Whittier's #4 tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 03, 2014, 10:29:23 PM
Chapman beats Whittier 14-4 on Saturday after losing to Cal Lu earlier in the day. They face Cal Lu on Sunday and will have to beat them twice to get the SCIAC Pool A bid. I expect they need to win the 1st game to get a Pool C bid.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 04, 2014, 10:09:55 PM
Nice to see Cal Lu sweep through the SCIAC tourney again. Chapman scored 4 runs in 2 games against Cal Lu and their pitching was not too spectacular. Cal Lu's on the other hand bent at times but never broke. It will be interesting to see if Chapman still gets a shot at a trip to Oregon.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 04, 2014, 10:28:36 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 04, 2014, 10:09:55 PM
Nice to see Cal Lu sweep through the SCIAC tourney again. Chapman scored 4 runs in 2 games against Cal Lu and their pitching was not too spectacular. Cal Lu's on the other hand bent at times but never broke. It will be interesting to see if Chapman still gets a shot at a trip to Oregon.

Cal Lu pitching and defense made the plays when they needed to, preventing CU from having any big innings.
Petersens complete game on Sat allowed Roth to pitch multiple innings on Sunday.  Peters had a no hitter going on Sunday until Battaglia's HR in fifth.   Gandy's foul ball Grand Slam was huge limiting CU to 1 run in the 6th after Kibayu for CLU induced a 5-2-3 double play to errase the threat. 
Roth came in for 3 innings to close out CU.

Congrats CLU for winning SCIAC and good luck to CU to get a C-pick

http://www.clusports.com/baseball/news/10675/
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 04, 2014, 10:36:47 PM
Trinity did Chapman a big favor by winning the SCAC today. TLU will not get a bid so depending on what happens in the ASC I would think that they are in, but really not sure. If they get in my guess is as the 5/6th seed and could face the beast Linfield.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 04, 2014, 11:15:35 PM
CU could get the 6th seed and will be 2 and Q in McMinnville. A huge accomplishment if they get back to the regionals after program had 2 bad seasons.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on May 05, 2014, 07:59:41 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 04, 2014, 10:36:47 PM
Trinity did Chapman a big favor by winning the SCAC today. TLU will not get a bid so depending on what happens in the ASC I would think that they are in, but really not sure. If they get in my guess is as the 5/6th seed and could face the beast Linfield.
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 04, 2014, 10:09:55 PM
Nice to see Cal Lu sweep through the SCIAC tourney again. Chapman scored 4 runs in 2 games against Cal Lu and their pitching was not too spectacular. Cal Lu's on the other hand bent at times but never broke. It will be interesting to see if Chapman still gets a shot at a trip to Oregon.

Some random observations: First, congrats to CLU and good luck in the Regionals. As they rolled through the conference tournament without much suspense, they were clearly the class of the SCIAC and a tip of the "Colorado cap" on their back to back titles. Second, if Chapman ever had a chance of winning the tourney, it probably could only have happened if they had home field advantage (and even then, I don't know about this year). I think back to the Redlands game when they lost on a 3-run walk off HR and a couple other games that they lost and how easy they could have made up that 1 game deficit and gone into the tourney as the #1 seed. Everyone knows that home field advantage generally helps but in Chapman's case, the advantage is more acute. Hart Park is one of the few pitcher's parks in the conference. Big spacious field with a strong breeze/wind that alternately blows in from left center, center and right from about mid afternoon.  If you have a son who pitches in HS looking to find a good place to pitch, CU is your place.  Every year (with a couple exceptions) going back to at least 2003, CU's team ERA is always nationally ranked and in the low or sub 3's. Certainly, they have recruited some great arms with some going pro but the park effects have no doubt helped.  Hart Park also has a high mound that is different from most of the other fields. Check out the top 4-5 pitchers for CU this year, and their ERA's at home are in the 1's or 2's and their road ERA's are over 4.  Probably the same unusual or extreme "home-away splits" that you would see if you looked up Dodger Stadium back in the 60's and the great Dodger pitching staffs back then that always seem to lead the league in ERA (of course, having Koufax and Drysdale helped). This year, CU struggled with mixed success in trying to get used to the mounds of other teams (landing spots, slope, adjusting their release points during the games and in some cases the shorter band box fences a la Pomona Pitzer's RF) and its shows in the greater number of walks, HBP's and HR's allowed.  Would CU have won the tourney with home field advantage, I won't go that far as every pitcher coming in receives that same benefit but CU's pitchers have the advantage of pitching many times there so there might have been a slight edge to it. Third, and just something that I noticed during the tourney, Whittier's Barzilli had a fantastic season. Definitely on the short list for Conference POY. He was legitimately someone to be feared when he approached the plate but over 5 games during the last month all won by CU, CU held him to 2-17, .117 BA, 7 K's, no RBI's and no HR's.  He was a dangerous mystery that CU pitching coach Edwards apparently solved.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 05, 2014, 08:22:35 PM
Quote from: Colorado on May 05, 2014, 07:59:41 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 04, 2014, 10:36:47 PM
Trinity did Chapman a big favor by winning the SCAC today. TLU will not get a bid so depending on what happens in the ASC I would think that they are in, but really not sure. If they get in my guess is as the 5/6th seed and could face the beast Linfield.
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 04, 2014, 10:09:55 PM
Nice to see Cal Lu sweep through the SCIAC tourney again. Chapman scored 4 runs in 2 games against Cal Lu and their pitching was not too spectacular. Cal Lu's on the other hand bent at times but never broke. It will be interesting to see if Chapman still gets a shot at a trip to Oregon.

Some random observations: First, congrats to CLU and good luck in the Regionals. As they rolled through the conference tournament without much suspense, they were clearly the class of the SCIAC and a tip of the "Colorado cap" on their back to back titles. Second, if Chapman ever had a chance of winning the tourney, it probably could only have happened if they had home field advantage (and even then, I don't know about this year). I think back to the Redlands game when they lost on a 3-run walk off HR and a couple other games that they lost and how easy they could have made up that 1 game deficit and gone into the tourney as the #1 seed. Everyone knows that home field advantage generally helps but in Chapman's case, the advantage is more acute. Hart Park is one of the few pitcher's parks in the conference. Big spacious field with a strong breeze/wind that alternately blows in from left center, center and right from about mid afternoon.  If you have a son who pitches in HS looking to find a good place to pitch, CU is your place.  Every year (with a couple exceptions) going back to at least 2003, CU's team ERA is always nationally ranked and in the low or sub 3's. Certainly, they have recruited some great arms with some going pro but the park effects have no doubt helped.  Hart Park also has a high mound that is different from most of the other fields. Check out the top 4-5 pitchers for CU this year, and their ERA's at home are in the 1's or 2's and their road ERA's are over 4.  Probably the same unusual or extreme "home-away splits" that you would see if you looked up Dodger Stadium back in the 60's and the great Dodger pitching staffs back then that always seem to lead the league in ERA (of course, having Koufax and Drysdale helped). This year, CU struggled with mixed success in trying to get used to the mounds of other teams (landing spots, slope, adjusting their release points during the games and in some cases the shorter band box fences a la Pomona Pitzer's RF) and its shows in the greater number of walks, HBP's and HR's allowed.  Would CU have won the tourney with home field advantage, I won't go that far as every pitcher coming in receives that same benefit but CU's pitchers have the advantage of pitching many times there so there might have been a slight edge to it. Third, and just something that I noticed during the tourney, Whittier's Barzilli had a fantastic season. Definitely on the short list for Conference POY. He was legitimately someone to be feared when he approached the plate but over 5 games during the last month all won by CU, CU held him to 2-17, .117 BA, 7 K's, no RBI's and no HR's.  He was a dangerous mystery that CU pitching coach Edwards apparently solved.
Great observation and very true. I watched CU up close for close to 5 years. Also being a Pool B was also a huge advantage. BUT they still had to win several times at away fields in the Regionals(Abilene, TX and McMinnville, OR) to get to Appleton more than once.

I think they are a long shot getting a Pool C. If they do I believe they will be overmatched in Oregon.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on May 05, 2014, 09:38:18 PM

Great observation and very true. I watched CU up close for close to 5 years. Also being a Pool B was also a huge advantage. BUT they still had to win several times at away fields in the Regionals(Abilene, TX and McMinnville, OR) to get to Appleton more than once.

I think they are a long shot getting a Pool C. If they do I believe they will be overmatched in Oregon.
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You're right about that -- that they eventually had to win on a foreign field several times to get to Appleton. I think there was also a point where the regionals were played at Hart Park for a few years during the early or mid 2000's during their run. As for their chances in Oregon if they make it, they've got a pitcher's chance. Call it foolish or stubborn swag but at least 2 of them think they can win and yes, can harken back to ancient days when they started against Linfield and CU won. The last time 1 of them pitched against Linfield, the latter was ranked no 19 and CU was a below .500 team. So naturally, CU won and 12 Linfield batters went down on strikes. I just hope they can get in.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 05, 2014, 10:54:10 PM
If CTX wins they are a lock for McMinnville IMO. If not how do they compare to CTX/GF/PLU ? Prob get a 6 seed.

1. Linfield.
2. CLU
3. Trinity
4. ASC Winner
5. Chapman
6. NW At large

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 06, 2014, 09:22:15 PM
A great story
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/osaki-611993-mcgee-chapman.html

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.onset.freedom.com%2Focregister%2Fgallery%2Fn4ty9l-b8825343z.120140429230359000gld1dvla.10.jpg&hash=2c427f96edd6e1406d3bcfd686cfd95e7fc93e17)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 09, 2014, 04:51:08 PM
PASADENA, CA - The SCIAC is proud to announce the 2014 SCIAC Baseball All-Conference Awards.

ATHLETE OF THE YEAR:  Simon Rosenbaum, So. - Pomona-Pitzer

PITCHER OF THE YEAR:  Travis McGee, Sr. – Chapman

NEWCOMER OF THE YEAR:  Tanner Nishioka, Fr. - Pomona-Pitzer


FIRST TEAM

P – Branden Riddle, So. - Chapman

P – Aaron Roth, Sr. – Cal Lutheran

P - Mark Jebbia, Jr. - La Verne

C  – Joe Winterburn, Sr. - La Verne

1B – Mark Saatzer, SR. - Chapman

2B – Christopher Scalisi, Fr. - Redlands

3B – Julian Barzilli, Sr. - Whittier

SS – Nicho DellaValle, Sr. - Cal Lutheran

OF – Connor Hancock, Jr. - Redlands

OF – Andrew Carbajal, Sr. - Chapman

OF – Corey Jensen, Sr. - Whittier

OF – Tanner Nishioka, Fr. - Pomona-Pitzer

UT – Jake Petersen, Sr. - Cal Lutheran


SECOND TEAM

P – Mitch Margolis, Sr. - Occidental

P – Scott Peters, Jr. - Cal Lutheran

P – Kevin Knight, Sr. - La Verne

C – Stephen Zavala, Jr. - Whittier

1B – Collin Crowl, Jr. - Cal Lutheran

1B - Ben White, Fr. - La Verne

2B – George Hanna, Sr. - La Verne

SS – Scott Witte, Sr. – Claremont-Mudd-Scripps

DH – Matt Gandy, So. - Chapman

DH – Max Hardman Sr. - Redlands

OF – Connor Battaglia, Sr. - Chapman

OF - Alex Scheiwe, Sr. - Redlands

UT – Ben Cerami, Jr. - Whittier

Tough race for POY award as Barzilli and Rosenbaum both had monster years.  Congrats to all.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on May 09, 2014, 06:41:05 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 09, 2014, 04:51:08 PM
PASADENA, CA - The SCIAC is proud to announce the 2014 SCIAC Baseball All-Conference Awards.

ATHLETE OF THE YEAR:  Simon Rosenbaum, So. - Pomona-Pitzer

PITCHER OF THE YEAR:  Travis McGee, Sr. – Chapman

NEWCOMER OF THE YEAR:  Tanner Nishioka, Fr. - Pomona-Pitzer

Big ups to the Sophomore Simon Rosenbaum! And Freshman Tanner Nishioka! And everyone else too, I guess  ;)
Here's a link to the PP Baseball write up: http://pomona.prestosports.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/201405086qy7h9 (http://pomona.prestosports.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/201405086qy7h9)

Of note- Rosenbaum is leading the nation (with only a few tournaments being wrapped up) in OBP and Doubles. His .474 BA and .822 Slugging are both ranked 4th nationally.

Of course, tip of the hat to Barzilli who is comfortably leading the country with 17 home runs. I think if he and Whittier hadn't stumbled a little bit at the end the POY award might have been his. Nevertheless, pretty incredible season. Didn't think we'd see another 17 home run season after the bats changed in 2011.

As mentioned Rosenbaum is only a Sophomore. Scary thought. Not to mention that next year he should hopefully be all recovered from his Tommy John and ready to step back into the rotation. Even if he sees an understandable drop in offensive productivity, he has the potential for national awards.
Nishioka is one of the more athletic players you'll see in DIII. It's going to be fun to watch his career continue as well.

Overall a pretty balanced all-conference team by class. The SCIAC will be losing some pretty special seniors like Petersen, Roth, Barzilli, DellaValle, Shiewe, etc. But there were plenty of underclassmen represented too, and next year is going to be really interesting seeing how teams evolve as young players step up to fill the shoes of the graduating seniors. CLU in particular is losing a ton, but they still have a great foundation and always find great players to fill the gaps. 

By the way- glaring omission is Kevin Osaki. Had another phenomenal year coming back from surgery. After reading that article below, would have been nice to see him represented too and not just McGee (who had a ridiculous year, well-deserved Pitcher of the Year). Does anybody know if they plan on using their extra year of eligibility? Maybe delay graduation or take some grad school classes next year? As a fan of good baseball, I hope they stay. As a fan of PP, get them the hell out of here!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on May 09, 2014, 09:24:54 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on May 09, 2014, 06:41:05 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 09, 2014, 04:51:08 PM
PASADENA, CA - The SCIAC is proud to announce the 2014 SCIAC Baseball All-Conference Awards.

ATHLETE OF THE YEAR:  Simon Rosenbaum, So. - Pomona-Pitzer

PITCHER OF THE YEAR:  Travis McGee, Sr. – Chapman

NEWCOMER OF THE YEAR:  Tanner Nishioka, Fr. - Pomona-Pitzer

Big ups to the Sophomore Simon Rosenbaum! And Freshman Tanner Nishioka! And everyone else too, I guess  ;)
Here's a link to the PP Baseball write up: http://pomona.prestosports.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/201405086qy7h9 (http://pomona.prestosports.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/201405086qy7h9)

Of note- Rosenbaum is leading the nation (with only a few tournaments being wrapped up) in OBP and Doubles. His .474 BA and .822 Slugging are both ranked 4th nationally.

Of course, tip of the hat to Barzilli who is comfortably leading the country with 17 home runs. I think if he and Whittier hadn't stumbled a little bit at the end the POY award might have been his. Nevertheless, pretty incredible season. Didn't think we'd see another 17 home run season after the bats changed in 2011.

As mentioned Rosenbaum is only a Sophomore. Scary thought. Not to mention that next year he should hopefully be all recovered from his Tommy John and ready to step back into the rotation. Even if he sees an understandable drop in offensive productivity, he has the potential for national awards.
Nishioka is one of the more athletic players you'll see in DIII. It's going to be fun to watch his career continue as well.

Overall a pretty balanced all-conference team by class. The SCIAC will be losing some pretty special seniors like Petersen, Roth, Barzilli, DellaValle, Shiewe, etc. But there were plenty of underclassmen represented too, and next year is going to be really interesting seeing how teams evolve as young players step up to fill the shoes of the graduating seniors. CLU in particular is losing a ton, but they still have a great foundation and always find great players to fill the gaps. 

By the way- glaring omission is Kevin Osaki. Had another phenomenal year coming back from surgery. After reading that article below, would have been nice to see him represented too and not just McGee (who had a ridiculous year, well-deserved Pitcher of the Year). Does anybody know if they plan on using their extra year of eligibility? Maybe delay graduation or take some grad school classes next year? As a fan of good baseball, I hope they stay. As a fan of PP, get them the hell out of here!

Teddy, Nice sum up the SCIAC's year and spotlight on different  players. My own thoughts about unfortunate omissions would include Whittier's Garcia and Oxy's Kling. They shackled CU's bats in the 4 games that we watched. They both moved the ball around like I imagined Whitey Ford once did as to make things uncomfortable for a hitter. By the way, those were some very gracious comments re McGee and Osaki. There were a few bumps (lol the Game at Pomona for one!) along the way but overall the season turned out as they hoped.  As to your question, Both are 5th year seniors and have played their 4 years, so they now move on.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on May 10, 2014, 01:08:04 PM
Quote from: Colorado on May 09, 2014, 09:24:54 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on May 09, 2014, 06:41:05 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 09, 2014, 04:51:08 PM
PASADENA, CA - The SCIAC is proud to announce the 2014 SCIAC Baseball All-Conference Awards.

ATHLETE OF THE YEAR:  Simon Rosenbaum, So. - Pomona-Pitzer

PITCHER OF THE YEAR:  Travis McGee, Sr. – Chapman

NEWCOMER OF THE YEAR:  Tanner Nishioka, Fr. - Pomona-Pitzer

Big ups to the Sophomore Simon Rosenbaum! And Freshman Tanner Nishioka! And everyone else too, I guess  ;)
Here's a link to the PP Baseball write up: http://pomona.prestosports.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/201405086qy7h9 (http://pomona.prestosports.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/201405086qy7h9)

Of note- Rosenbaum is leading the nation (with only a few tournaments being wrapped up) in OBP and Doubles. His .474 BA and .822 Slugging are both ranked 4th nationally.

Of course, tip of the hat to Barzilli who is comfortably leading the country with 17 home runs. I think if he and Whittier hadn't stumbled a little bit at the end the POY award might have been his. Nevertheless, pretty incredible season. Didn't think we'd see another 17 home run season after the bats changed in 2011.

As mentioned Rosenbaum is only a Sophomore. Scary thought. Not to mention that next year he should hopefully be all recovered from his Tommy John and ready to step back into the rotation. Even if he sees an understandable drop in offensive productivity, he has the potential for national awards.
Nishioka is one of the more athletic players you'll see in DIII. It's going to be fun to watch his career continue as well.

Overall a pretty balanced all-conference team by class. The SCIAC will be losing some pretty special seniors like Petersen, Roth, Barzilli, DellaValle, Shiewe, etc. But there were plenty of underclassmen represented too, and next year is going to be really interesting seeing how teams evolve as young players step up to fill the shoes of the graduating seniors. CLU in particular is losing a ton, but they still have a great foundation and always find great players to fill the gaps. 

By the way- glaring omission is Kevin Osaki. Had another phenomenal year coming back from surgery. After reading that article below, would have been nice to see him represented too and not just McGee (who had a ridiculous year, well-deserved Pitcher of the Year). Does anybody know if they plan on using their extra year of eligibility? Maybe delay graduation or take some grad school classes next year? As a fan of good baseball, I hope they stay. As a fan of PP, get them the hell out of here!

Teddy, Nice sum up the SCIAC's year and spotlight on different  players. My own thoughts about unfortunate omissions would include Whittier's Garcia and Oxy's Kling. They shackled CU's bats in the 4 games that we watched. They both moved the ball around like I imagined Whitey Ford once did as to make things uncomfortable for a hitter. By the way, those were some very gracious comments re McGee and Osaki. There were a few bumps (lol the Game at Pomona for one!) along the way but overall the season turned out as they hoped.  As to your question, Both are 5th year seniors and have played their 4 years, so they now move on.

Ah that's right! I forgot they were already 5th years. That's too bad. Nevertheless, it's pretty special that they were able to come back and get another stellar year of baseball. It couldn't have been easy having to watch all last year from the sidelines. Best of luck to them going forward. And fingers crossed that their year isn't done and they can snag a Pool C bid!

Good point on Kling and Garcia. Only issue with Garcia was that going up against so many aces from other teams his W-L wasn't great (4-4 in conference, 5-7 overall) even though he had a strong ERA in the mid 3.00's. Great year for sure though.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on May 19, 2014, 05:39:41 PM
Way to go Chapman getting 5 guys on the All-Region teams.

Now, down to business...when is the Underwear Run?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on May 19, 2014, 10:09:43 PM
Tall Guy (Rosenbaum) named West Region POY! Nishioka 3rd Team All-West Region:
http://pe.pomona.edu/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/2014051959ab7i (http://pe.pomona.edu/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/2014051959ab7i)
http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/all-region/2014/west (http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/all-region/2014/west)

Congrats to Simon Rosenbaum for an excellent season. I expect he'll also get an All-America nod when it's all said and done.

Also Redlands 2B Christopher Scalisi named West Region Rookie of the Year

Fine showing by the SCIAC on the All West Region Teams-
1st Team:
1B Rosenbaum PP
SS DellaValle CLU
3B Barzilli Whittier
OF Carbajal Chapman
DH Gandy Chapman
UT Petersen CLU

2nd Team:
1B Saatzer Chapman
2B Scalisi Redlands
OF Hancock Redlands
RP Roth CLU

3rd Team:
OF Battaglia Chapman
U Nishioka PP
SP McGee Chapman
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on May 23, 2014, 12:18:03 AM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on May 19, 2014, 10:09:43 PM
Tall Guy (Rosenbaum) named West Region POY! Nishioka 3rd Team All-West Region:
http://pe.pomona.edu/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/2014051959ab7i (http://pe.pomona.edu/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/2014051959ab7i)
http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/all-region/2014/west (http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/all-region/2014/west)

Congrats to Simon Rosenbaum for an excellent season. I expect he'll also get an All-America nod when it's all said and done.

Also Redlands 2B Christopher Scalisi named West Region Rookie of the Year

Fine showing by the SCIAC on the All West Region Teams-
1st Team:
1B Rosenbaum PP
SS DellaValle CLU
3B Barzilli Whittier
OF Carbajal Chapman
DH Gandy Chapman
UT Petersen CLU

2nd Team:
1B Saatzer Chapman
2B Scalisi Redlands
OF Hancock Redlands
RP Roth CLU

3rd Team:
OF Battaglia Chapman
U Nishioka PP
SP McGee Chapman

As anticipated, Tall Guy named a 1st Team All-America by d3baseball.com! Rosenbaum was one of just three sophomores to make the first team. Congrats Simon, now get that wing healthy for next year!

http://pe.pomona.edu/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/201405227vmu27 (http://pe.pomona.edu/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/201405227vmu27)
http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-allamericans-2014 (http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-allamericans-2014)

Other, very well-deserved, SCIAC All-Americans:
2nd Team Utility: Jake Petersen, SR Cal Lutheran
3rd Team 3B: Julian Barzilli, SR Whittier
Hon. Mention OF: Andrew Carbajal, SO Chapman

I'm sure DellaValle was among the final contenders for a SS spot on the 3rd Team/ Hon. Mention team. He trailed a tad on some of the offensive numbers (which is crazy), but had the edge in the field and on the base paths. Great season regardless.

Congratulations to all!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on September 03, 2014, 05:49:07 PM
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/201408288n45k5

This is probably about 20 years too late.  Who takes over at CMS?  They can win in plenty of other sports, can they do it in baseball?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on September 09, 2014, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on September 03, 2014, 05:49:07 PM
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/201408288n45k5

This is probably about 20 years too late.  Who takes over at CMS?  They can win in plenty of other sports, can they do it in baseball?

Your question was answered today: http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2014/contrib/20140909rmdgzj
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on September 10, 2014, 06:29:20 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on September 09, 2014, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on September 03, 2014, 05:49:07 PM
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/201408288n45k5

This is probably about 20 years too late.  Who takes over at CMS?  They can win in plenty of other sports, can they do it in baseball?

Your question was answered today: http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2014/contrib/20140909rmdgzj

Thanks, Jim.  Good hire for them as he is familiar with the type of students they will need to recruit.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on January 23, 2015, 04:38:34 AM
Jeff Levering, former Chapman player in the news - he's made the major leagues!!

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/289447341.html
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 30, 2015, 08:50:20 AM
Jeff received his degree in Broadcast Journalism from Chapman University in Orange, California where he also played baseball all four years and was the starting Designated Hitter on the 2003 D-III National Championship baseball team. Levering also played in summer baseball leagues as a teammate of Red Sox star 2B Dustin Pedroia.   ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 01, 2015, 01:35:39 PM
Quote from: BoBo on January 23, 2015, 04:38:34 AM
Jeff Levering, former Chapman player in the news - he's made the major leagues!!

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/289447341.html
Great! 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 03, 2015, 04:26:16 PM
My prediction for the SCIAC this year is as follows:

1/2 Cal Lu and Pomona, in either order, both make a Regional.
3-9 Everyone else.

My 4 for the SCIAC Tourney

Cal Lu
Pomona
La Verne
Chapman/Oxy

SCIAC/West Region/National Player of the Year- Rosenbaum.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 05, 2015, 03:31:11 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 03, 2015, 04:26:16 PM
My prediction for the SCIAC this year is as follows:

1/2 Cal Lu and Pomona, in either order, both make a Regional.
3-9 Everyone else.

My 4 for the SCIAC Tourney

Cal Lu
Pomona
La Verne
Chapman/Oxy

SCIAC/West Region/National Player of the Year- Rosenbaum.

Looks like a good prediction. Chapman will again miss the regional in my opinion. Looks like Chapman lost their DH/C home run hitter Gandy who transferred to a D1 school. Creighton

http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2014-15/releases/20150204uabcee
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 05, 2015, 04:52:51 PM
You never know, in the good old days Chapman used to recruit and find freshmen who could contribute right away....however you may be right.

I still don't get why they are playing ETBU  ::) to start the season ? I know TU/Chapman used to do a home/away and it was TU's turn to go to Cali.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 05, 2015, 04:55:09 PM
Yeah Gandy played for the Charlestown Cannons last year and the Covington Lumberjacks The summer before that. Word was he was looking to get out of Chapman, and transfer to a D1. Does anybody know if he has to sit out a year. I know there are exceptions, but I do not know if he qualifies.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on February 05, 2015, 11:24:52 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on February 05, 2015, 04:55:09 PM
Yeah Gandy played for the Charlestown Cannons last year and the Covington Lumberjacks The summer before that. Word was he was looking to get out of Chapman, and transfer to a D1. Does anybody know if he has to sit out a year. I know there are exceptions, but I do not know if he qualifies.

Gandy is on the active Creighton roster.  In terms of Chapman, what happened to Braden Riddle, maybe a bigger loss than Gandy?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 06, 2015, 12:21:52 AM
Quote from: Whatagame on February 05, 2015, 11:24:52 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on February 05, 2015, 04:55:09 PM
Yeah Gandy played for the Charlestown Cannons last year and the Covington Lumberjacks The summer before that. Word was he was looking to get out of Chapman, and transfer to a D1. Does anybody know if he has to sit out a year. I know there are exceptions, but I do not know if he qualifies.

Gandy is on the active Creighton roster.  In terms of Chapman, what happened to Braden Riddle, maybe a bigger loss than Gandy?
either thaey don't know that Chapman is D3, or they do not want to admit it. Under experience they have junior college.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 06, 2015, 09:26:10 AM
Quote from: Whatagame on February 05, 2015, 11:24:52 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on February 05, 2015, 04:55:09 PM
Yeah Gandy played for the Charlestown Cannons last year and the Covington Lumberjacks The summer before that. Word was he was looking to get out of Chapman, and transfer to a D1. Does anybody know if he has to sit out a year. I know there are exceptions, but I do not know if he qualifies.

Gandy is on the active Creighton roster.  In terms of Chapman, what happened to Braden Riddle, maybe a bigger loss than Gandy?

Probably hurt his arm like 90% of pitchers who go through Chapman.  No matter how successful they have been, arms get destroyed there.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 06, 2015, 09:53:21 AM
I really like what Whittier is doing to kick off their schedule, Concordia, x2 TLU, and Trinity in TX. That ought to get the juices flowing for their team, great way to start off the season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 06, 2015, 10:36:36 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on February 06, 2015, 09:53:21 AM
I really like what Whittier is doing to kick off their schedule, Concordia, x2 TLU, and Trinity in TX. That ought to get the juices flowing for their team, great way to start off the season.

Agreed.  I would love to see the SCIAC and ASC/SCAC get together each year for some sort of "tournament" where 4 schools would host 4 games over a weekend.  Trinity, TLU and Concordia are close enough to each other and Dallas, UTD and LeTouneau are as well.  If the SCIAC hosted it would be no issue at all since the largest distance between any of the schools is 2 hours.  Sprinkle in some of the NWC schools and I think it would help everyone in the West and schools wouldn't have to play any NAIA games against northern schools coming through for their spring trips.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on February 06, 2015, 12:06:19 PM
This year CLU will be playing Whitworth 2x, Puget Sound 2x and also Linfield and Southwestern(TX) in AZ. 
Westside opined that Puget would make some noise and 108Stitches has SWestern as #2 in SCAC (SCAC guide predicts 4th)
Looking at it, I like their out of conference selections this year.

As far as on the field:
- they return 8 of 10 hitters; so their offense should continue to be as strong as the past 2 years.
- they lost 2 of their top 3 starters and their closer Roth  This pitching void will be harder to fill.  We'll see how their transfer pitcher does and if some of the younger pitchers step up.


Games start in 5 hours!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 06, 2015, 08:10:03 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on February 05, 2015, 04:52:51 PM
You never know, in the good old days Chapman used to recruit and find freshmen who could contribute right away....however you may be right.

I still don't get why they are playing ETBU  ::) to start the season ? I know TU/Chapman used to do a home/away and it was TU's turn to go to Cali.
I will bet the ETBU Chapman game was scheduled last season before Lee Driggers left ETBU.  Coach Driggers was at McMurry when McM and Chapman played home-and-away.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 06, 2015, 11:11:26 PM
Chapman wins 1st 2 against ETBU- Not a strong program in recent years. http://www.statbroadcast.com/events/statbroadcast.php?gid=etbu&t=1

In 2014 Braden Riddle a sophmore who pitched last year for Chapman with 3rd most innings pitched is not on the roster in 2015. Any news on what happen?  He had a 7-2 record with a 3.12 ERA

Chapman does return pitcher Matt Smith 5-2 record with 2.94 ERA and Ben Vietze 1-0 record 2 saves 0.87 ERA.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 07, 2015, 10:09:57 PM
6 errors and Chapman loses 10-9 to ETBU. Could be a long season if you lose to a program like ETBU.

http://www.etbusports.com/baseball/news/2014-15/1515/hood-earns-first-win-in-walk-off-fashion-over-chapman/

http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2014-15/releases/20150204uabcee
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 08, 2015, 11:31:56 AM
Whittier does not look to be much of a threat in the SCIAC this year, loosing 4 in Texas, they were over matched at TU, but it is always good for a team to play solid competition and see where they stand early.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 08, 2015, 05:39:06 PM
After 1st weekend of baseball

Cal Lu and Redlands are undefeated
http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2015/standings

http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/index

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 08, 2015, 08:53:05 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 08, 2015, 05:39:06 PM
After 1st weekend of baseball

Cal Lu and Redlands are undefeated
http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2015/standings

http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/index

My thoughts...

Whittier and CMS are off to a rough start.  Whittier only scored 5 runs in 4 games in TX and CMS has given up a ton of runs so far.  Pretty surprised Chapman dropped one to East TX Baptist and La Verne had a tough time against good teams in AZ.  Oxy played a very competitive series against a very average Pacific team.  Cal Lu hit the ball very well and took 3 from Whitworth and Puget Sound.  Pomona scored a lot of runs but their pitching got torched all over.  Conference play starts this week!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 08, 2015, 09:04:04 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 08, 2015, 08:53:05 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 08, 2015, 05:39:06 PM
After 1st weekend of baseball

Cal Lu and Redlands are undefeated
http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2015/standings

http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/index

My thoughts...

Whittier and CMS are off to a rough start.  Whittier only scored 5 runs in 4 games in TX and CMS has given up a ton of runs so far.  Pretty surprised Chapman dropped one to East TX Baptist and La Verne had a tough time against good teams in AZ.  Oxy played a very competitive series against a very average Pacific team.  Cal Lu hit the ball very well and took 3 from Whitworth and Puget Sound.  Pomona scored a lot of runs but their pitching got torched all over.  Conference play starts this week!

You guys make me sick! ;D

In the upper midwest, we still have 6 inches to two feet of snow on the ground (depending on area) - it is still 1-2 months before we can even practice outside.  I wouldn't want a division of d3 based on geography (there are pluses and minuses for all areas), but you guys DO play a somewhat different sport than many of us! :P
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: NWBaseballFan10 on February 08, 2015, 09:13:54 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 08, 2015, 08:53:05 PM

My thoughts...

Pomona scored a lot of runs but their pitching got torched all over.

How about the afternoon from Bruml?! 5-6 with 2 bombs, 5 RBI's and 5 runs!! Quiet weekend for Rosenbaum although the chances of that continuing for the remainder of the season are slim to none. Those two could be a powerful punch in the middle of the Sagehen lineup. But you are right, where is the pitching???? Sadly, Rosenbaum does not appear to be back in his usual form on the mound the way he had been in 2013 prior to his injury. As for Bruml, the kid has got great life in his arm, but is at best a 2 pitch guy (And I'm being generous on his offspeed stuff). A D3 kid sitting upper 80's to low 90's should be producing better outings IMHO. If he could develop his offspeed stuff more and locate 3 pitches (even if 2 of them aren't that consistent) he could be a terror on the mound the way he is at the plate. Perhaps, though, his numbers are more reflective of his opponents in the SCIAC who tend to have no issues putting crooked numbers on the board...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 08, 2015, 09:43:41 PM
To be good at anything you have to practice your craft. Could it be between hitting, and school, that their is not time to dedicate the needed time to pitching.
I am not saying the young man is not dedicated or not as good as he should be, but it may be a matter of priorities.
I wish the young man well.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 08, 2015, 09:51:20 PM
Mr Yipsi, I just saw the weather report for Boston and was wondering what the heck all of the East/Mid West teams were doing. Head to Florida my friend. No wonder the board is dead, all the baseball players are frozen.

I then saw the P-P game, give me a break 10 runs in one inning.... a 19-17 game? Sounds like a football score.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 08, 2015, 10:23:43 PM
Yes many will head to florida, in a few weeks. In Ohio several start their season playing at Veterans Memorial in Chilicothe, home of the Paints. Even the mound is turf.
http://community.hsbaseballweb.com/clip/bishoplefty-vs-case-western

Still makes for a cold start. Many times when they are playing it is in the 30's. Other teams play their first couple of games in Beckley West Va. Quite a long bus ride for one or two double headers.
Some teams may make more than one trip. Some take an extended weekend and play some games down south, Arkansas or Kentucky are popular choices.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 09, 2015, 11:11:39 AM
I assume Bruml has a lot on his plate while getting a great education.  He throws hard, just no secondary pitches.  I guess he can help his own cause by hitting 2 bombs a game (in the same inning!!)  The concern is that nobody on Pomona's staff seemed to throw well.  Maybe it was just opening weekend stuff but 4 games like that will make you wonder.

I am very interested to see how the first weekend in SCIAC play works out.  Oxy looks to have pretty solid pitching and I am a little torn on Chapman.  Can CMS put it together and beat Pomona.  Whittier needs to re-group after a rough weekend and La Verne will even up their record against Cal Tech.  Cal Lu is off.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on February 09, 2015, 11:25:11 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 09, 2015, 11:11:39 AM
I assume Bruml has a lot on his plate while getting a great education.  He throws hard, just no secondary pitches.  I guess he can help his own cause by hitting 2 bombs a game (in the same inning!!)  The concern is that nobody on Pomona's staff seemed to throw well.  Maybe it was just opening weekend stuff but 4 games like that will make you wonder.

I am very interested to see how the first weekend in SCIAC play works out.  Oxy looks to have pretty solid pitching and I am a little torn on Chapman.  Can CMS put it together and beat Pomona.  Whittier needs to re-group after a rough weekend and La Verne will even up their record against Cal Tech.  Cal Lu is off.

I'm hoping Bruml just has a few quirks to work out. Bruml has shown he can be a successful pitcher at this level, so I'm optimistic. And it was great to see him have such a ridiculous weekend at the plate.

I don't think we can read too much into the shaky first outings from Yen and Rosenbaum after both missed all of last season on the hill. Depending on whether two of the three of Lane Miles, David Gerics, and Yen can be consistent this year I think there's a chance Rosenbaum is used more in a closer's role- which is probably better for his future and his hitting.

And all is not lost for the pitching- they managed to hold a fear-inspiring alumni lineup to a single run  :P

If this weekend was any indication though, this will be a pretty typical PP team. Lots of runs at the plate and on the mound.

As for the rest of SCIAC:
CLU is, not surprisingly, looking like the team to beat.
Redlands and Oxy racked up some wins, but not reading too much into them given the competition
Chapman managed to blow a four run lead in the last game, but I think they're always a team to fear
ULV dropped three, but that's some real tough competition. Don't think it's a bad result at all, and they'll be better for it.
CMS/Whittier- yikes. Another long year. Didn't think Whittier would be great, but they got pounded out there.
CIT- I don't know who St. Katherine is (their schedule includes DII, DIII, NAIA, club, and other), but damn the Beavers almost managed to pull out wins in both games. IS THIS THE YEAR?!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 10, 2015, 12:03:54 AM
Chapman pitching has 5 pitchers with ERA at/over 4.50. 7 errors in 3 games. 3 game series with Cal Lu is later this month. Offense seems to be able to score runs. Teams have stolen 6 bases over 3 games. Oxy is next
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on February 11, 2015, 01:28:18 AM
Someone asked earlier about Chapman's Riddle (whatever happened...). He dropped out of school. No injury was mentioned. Its funny. With graduation, there were going to be about 5 holes to fill among the core but they had the pieces to fill in. Trouble is some of the pieces are now  gone:

Richards (who pitched briefly last season after TJ surgery, hurt his shoulder this time and decided to hang them up), clean up hitter Gandy (he wanted to catch but he wasn't going to get a chance at Chapman plus he wasn't happy last season when he sat on the bench in the first month).

Some rambling thoughts: They are pretty high on the pitcher transfer who started game 1. Game 2 starter Smith, a junior, is solid. They've been kinda waiting on him to grow into the spot. Back up closer  Vietze hurt his elbow at the end of last season and haven't heard much on how that is going). They have a new first baseman (Love who's off to a great start) but let me go on a limb and predict the next  big Slugging star in the SCIAC. His name is Forest Wiederman. He saw limited playing behind Gandy and Saetzer last year as a frosh but he's the new DH and keep your eye on him.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 11, 2015, 01:37:55 PM
Quote from: Colorado on February 11, 2015, 01:28:18 AM
Someone asked earlier about Chapman's Riddle (whatever happened...). He dropped out of school. No injury was mentioned. Its funny. With graduation, there were going to be about 5 holes to fill among the core but they had the pieces to fill in. Trouble is some of the pieces are now  gone:

Richards (who pitched briefly last season after TJ surgery, hurt his shoulder this time and decided to hang them up), clean up hitter Gandy (he wanted to catch but he wasn't going to get a chance at Chapman plus he wasn't happy last season when he sat on the bench in the first month).

Some rambling thoughts: They are pretty high on the pitcher transfer who started game 1. Game 2 starter Smith, a junior, is solid. They've been kinda waiting on him to grow into the spot. Back up closer  Vietze hurt his elbow at the end of last season and haven't heard much on how that is going). They have a new first baseman (Love who's off to a great start) but let me go on a limb and predict the next  big Slugging star in the SCIAC. His name is Forest Wiederman. He saw limited playing behind Gandy and Saetzer last year as a frosh but he's the new DH and keep your eye on him.
Riddle & Gandy are big losses for Chapman for 2015. Big bat and #1 type starter. Also saw Dillion only played in game 1 but not 2 or 3.  What's up?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 13, 2015, 12:20:09 PM
Week 1 SCIAC  predictions....

La Verne vs Cal Tech: 3-0 ULV, no questions.

Redlands vs Whittier: Redlands beat up on 2 AWFUL teams right away and after seeing what Whittier did in Texas, it makes me think they might have a rough year as well.  I say 3-0 Redlands but 2-1 wouldn't shock me at all.

Pomona vs Claremont- Claremont has been knocked around so far and Pomona's pitching has been very shaky.  I think Pomona scored a ton of runs and take all 3 with high-scoring games.

Oxy vs Chapman- I don't know what to expect from either team after 1 week, but I think Chapman is by far a better team than Oxy.  Both played weaker opponents in week 1 and both took 2/3.  I think Chapman's hitting will be too much and they take all 3.

Cal Lu is off
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 13, 2015, 12:27:27 PM
La Verne 3-0 over CalTech
Redlands 3-0 over Whittier
Pomona 3-0 over CMS
Chapman 2-1 vs Oxy

Cal Lu resting until they take on Chapman next week and will go 3-0 vs Chapman

Early predictions for SCIAC tourney seeds  ;D
Cal Lu
Redlands
Chapman
La Verne
Pomona
Oxy
Whittier
CMS
Cal Tech
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on February 13, 2015, 03:36:04 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 13, 2015, 12:20:09 PM
Week 1 SCIAC  predictions....

La Verne vs Cal Tech: 3-0 ULV, no questions.

Redlands vs Whittier: Redlands beat up on 2 AWFUL teams right away and after seeing what Whittier did in Texas, it makes me think they might have a rough year as well.  I say 3-0 Redlands but 2-1 wouldn't shock me at all.

Pomona vs Claremont- Claremont has been knocked around so far and Pomona's pitching has been very shaky.  I think Pomona scored a ton of runs and take all 3 with high-scoring games.

Oxy vs Chapman- I don't know what to expect from either team after 1 week, but I think Chapman is by far a better team than Oxy.  Both played weaker opponents in week 1 and both took 2/3.  I think Chapman's hitting will be too much and they take all 3.

Cal Lu is off

I agree with your comments and predictions, except I think Chapman will only win 2.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on February 13, 2015, 03:38:18 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 13, 2015, 12:27:27 PM
La Verne 3-0 over CalTech
Redlands 3-0 over Whittier
Pomona 3-0 over CMS
Chapman 2-1 vs Oxy

Cal Lu resting until they take on Chapman next week and will go 3-0 vs Chapman

Early predictions for SCIAC tourney seeds  ;D
Cal Lu
Redlands
Chapman
La Verne
Pomona
Oxy
Whittier
CMS
Cal Tech

Crash, I agree with both you weekend predictions and also most of year end predictions.   I think Pomona may sneak in as #4 seed instead of LaVerne.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 13, 2015, 03:39:27 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on February 13, 2015, 03:36:04 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 13, 2015, 12:20:09 PM
Week 1 SCIAC  predictions....

La Verne vs Cal Tech: 3-0 ULV, no questions.

Redlands vs Whittier: Redlands beat up on 2 AWFUL teams right away and after seeing what Whittier did in Texas, it makes me think they might have a rough year as well.  I say 3-0 Redlands but 2-1 wouldn't shock me at all.

Pomona vs Claremont- Claremont has been knocked around so far and Pomona's pitching has been very shaky.  I think Pomona scored a ton of runs and take all 3 with high-scoring games.

Oxy vs Chapman- I don't know what to expect from either team after 1 week, but I think Chapman is by far a better team than Oxy.  Both played weaker opponents in week 1 and both took 2/3.  I think Chapman's hitting will be too much and they take all 3.

Cal Lu is off

I agree with your comments and predictions, except I think Chapman will only win 2.
I concur also. Chapman will 2 of 3. Pitching is not deep enough to get all 3 but Chapman may have its best offensive team in recent years. Defense is a question mark. Too many errors and too many stolen bases. OXY in the past loves to steal bases in past years
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 14, 2015, 01:25:00 AM
Pomona crushed Claremont, no big surprise.  CMS looks to be pretty bad this year.  Pomona should finish a sweep tomorrow.

Redlands outlasted Whittier after a shaky start.  I expect a sweep by Redlands tomorrow.

Chapman absolutely implodes against Oxy.  This is a really bad loss for Chapman and looks like their bullpen might be an issue this year.  I don't know how Chapman recovers from this tomorrow.

La Verne struggled a little against Cal Tech but ends up thumping them.  Finishing a sweep tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 15, 2015, 12:19:57 PM
Week 1 SCIAC  predictions....

La Verne vs Cal Tech: 3-0 ULV, no questions.- ULV didn't start out well in any of the games but were just too much in the end.

Redlands vs Whittier: Redlands beat up on 2 AWFUL teams right away and after seeing what Whittier did in Texas, it makes me think they might have a rough year as well.  I say 3-0 Redlands but 2-1 wouldn't shock me at all.- Looks like Whittier was able to squeak one out and get their first win of the year.  This was a pretty good series all around.

Pomona vs Claremont- Claremont has been knocked around so far and Pomona's pitching has been very shaky.  I think Pomona scored a ton of runs and take all 3 with high-scoring games.- Claremont is going to get knocked around all year but man, Pomona can hit!  On the flip side, they have given up a ton of runs to some mediocre at-best teams.  I have a feeling we are going to see a lot of football-type scores this year.

Oxy vs Chapman- I don't know what to expect from either team after 1 week, but I think Chapman is by far a better team than Oxy.  Both played weaker opponents in week 1 and both took 2/3.  I think Chapman's hitting will be too much and they take all 3.-Oops, I missed this one big time!  What in the world is going on with Chapman?  Things were ok last year but my goodness, sounds like a mess in Orange.  Players leaving the program and now this is Laverty's first recruiting class and it looks to be a little thin.  They need to put it together fast or this season is going to get away from them in a hurry. On the OXY side, thats a huge series win for them.  They took advantage of a Chapman implosion on Friday and their pitching was the story of the weekend.  This DeRead kid sound legit as well.  Great start for OXY going into Caltech.

Cal Lu is off
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 15, 2015, 02:42:08 PM
Who says things don't get heated up early in the SCIAC?

2 ejections and minor bench clearing event in the nightcap at Redlands...

Whittier showed some nad in not giving up on game 3, they needed that win.  Redlands looks solid especially at the front of the batting order.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 15, 2015, 06:50:36 PM
Chapman won 30 games in 2014. I dont expcect 20 wins in 2015.

Cal Lu and Redlands will battle for the SCIAC Pool A bid with the lose getting a Pool C bid.

CMS, Whittier, Caltech will be at the bottom of the SCIAC

Pomona, La Verne and Oxy wlll battle for the middle spots.

Chapman shows it misses Coach Tereschuk

I expect Cal Lu sweep over the Panthers

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 15, 2015, 07:15:02 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 15, 2015, 02:42:08 PM

2 ejections and minor bench clearing event in the nightcap at Redlands...


Interesting....any details or was it just people getting a little heated in a close game?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 16, 2015, 01:30:28 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 15, 2015, 07:15:02 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 15, 2015, 02:42:08 PM

2 ejections and minor bench clearing event in the nightcap at Redlands...


Interesting....any details or was it just people getting a little heated in a close game?

It really starts with a grumpy ump with a hair trigger temper.

Both teams played hard and things weren't chippy between the two teams.  However, between each team and the particular ump, each had a run-in during the early game in which he worked the plate.

In the top of the second, runners on 2nd and 3rd, Whittier batter hits a long single to right center, Redlands 2nd baseman apparently got entangled with the grumpy ump (now working the bases).  That part I did not see and I'm not sure how that happens since the 1st baseman is the cutoff...the account I heard was the UR kid told the ump (in choice language) to get out if his way and then grumpy ejected him.

Later in the same at bat for Whittier, batter hits one deep over the centerfielder's head...tries to stretch it into an inside the park and while the ball beats him, the throw is about 5 or 6 feet up the line and with the catcher in possession of the ball the batter runner makes contact with the catcher's extended arms and knocks the ball out...the batter runner was sort of on his way to a head first slide and sorta trying to avoid contact, and then again sorta not.  It was not a bury the shoulder cross body block collision, but there was definitely contact with the catcher while in possession of the ball. Anyway, the home plate ump (not grumpy) rules the runner safe, while at the same time the Redlands pitcher backing up the throw to the plate, rushes the Whittier batter runner and grabs him in anger, the Whittier on deck hitter rushes to his teammate's aid, and both benches empty.

Both coaches are yelling at their own players to keep it from escalating, there are some heated words exchanged, but things settled quickly.

At that point Grumpy felt the need to assert himself and push his partner to rule the batter runner out AND have him ejected for dangerous play - failure to slide or avoid as per rule.

Not sure I agree with the ruling, but I would have bought into it had the home plate ump made that the original call.  The field ump at that point overstepped what is an easy judgement call one way or the other for the plate ump...given that Grumpy blew several calls in game one and would not seek help, he had no business asserting himself on his partner in this case.

As it was though, it may have been his best call of the day.  It mollified the Redlands bench and crowd, but it also seemed to light Whittier's fire.

(Full disclosure, I am a Whittier fan, my youngest, known to my IIAC friends as Rev. 3, is a freshman)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 16, 2015, 10:15:26 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 16, 2015, 01:30:28 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 15, 2015, 07:15:02 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 15, 2015, 02:42:08 PM

2 ejections and minor bench clearing event in the nightcap at Redlands...


Interesting....any details or was it just people getting a little heated in a close game?

It really starts with a grumpy ump with a hair trigger temper.

Both teams played hard and things weren't chippy between the two teams.  However, between each team and the particular ump, each had a run-in during the early game in which he worked the plate.

In the top of the second, runners on 2nd and 3rd, Whittier batter hits a long single to right center, Redlands 2nd baseman apparently got entangled with the grumpy ump (now working the bases).  That part I did not see and I'm not sure how that happens since the 1st baseman is the cutoff...the account I heard was the UR kid told the ump (in choice language) to get out if his way and then grumpy ejected him.

Later in the same at bat for Whittier, batter hits one deep over the centerfielder's head...tries to stretch it into an inside the park and while the ball beats him, the throw is about 5 or 6 feet up the line and with the catcher in possession of the ball the batter runner makes contact with the catcher's extended arms and knocks the ball out...the batter runner was sort of on his way to a head first slide and sorta trying to avoid contact, and then again sorta not.  It was not a bury the shoulder cross body block collision, but there was definitely contact with the catcher while in possession of the ball. Anyway, the home plate ump (not grumpy) rules the runner safe, while at the same time the Redlands pitcher backing up the throw to the plate, rushes the Whittier batter runner and grabs him in anger, the Whittier on deck hitter rushes to his teammate's aid, and both benches empty.

Both coaches are yelling at their own players to keep it from escalating, there are some heated words exchanged, but things settled quickly.

At that point Grumpy felt the need to assert himself and push his partner to rule the batter runner out AND have him ejected for dangerous play - failure to slide or avoid as per rule.

Not sure I agree with the ruling, but I would have bought into it had the home plate ump made that the original call.  The field ump at that point overstepped what is an easy judgement call one way or the other for the plate ump...given that Grumpy blew several calls in game one and would not seek help, he had no business asserting himself on his partner in this case.

As it was though, it may have been his best call of the day.  It mollified the Redlands bench and crowd, but it also seemed to light Whittier's fire.

(Full disclosure, I am a Whittier fan, my youngest, known to my IIAC friends as Rev. 3, is a freshman)

Sounds like a great series with both teams going hard.  Too bad the umps have to get a little crazy and start tossing guys (unless it was 100% necessary.)  Anyone know if the guys that were ejected have to sit out the next game?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Lets Play Two on February 17, 2015, 12:46:44 PM
The U of R website has the video of the Game 2 incident under their On Demand icon.  The play takes place at approximately the 1:00 mark.  It was deemed "malicious contact"!  I think the two-handed shove by the catcher was more malicious.  Not sure where the runner was supposed to go since the catcher was 6-8 feet up the line.  Apparently, any ejection now carries a 1-game suspension, so Lamar and Scalisi would have to sit out their next regularly scheduled game.  Here's the link to the site:

http://portal.stretchinternet.com/redlands/portal.htm?eventId=197865&streamType=video
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 17, 2015, 02:10:50 PM
Quote from: Lets Play Two on February 17, 2015, 12:46:44 PM
The U of R website has the video of the Game 2 incident under their On Demand icon.  The play takes place at approximately the 1:00 mark.  It was deemed "malicious contact"!  I think the two-handed shove by the catcher was more malicious.  Not sure where the runner was supposed to go since the catcher was 6-8 feet up the line.  Apparently, any ejection now carries a 1-game suspension, so Lamar and Scalisi would have to sit out their next regularly scheduled game.  Here's the link to the site:

http://portal.stretchinternet.com/redlands/portal.htm?eventId=197865&streamType=video

I'd say my account of the "incident" was pretty close to the mark.  And if anything, Lamar made more of an attempt to avoid than I could see from the angle I saw it.  Too bad he has to sit out.  Would that suspension be the next SCIAC game or the next official game?  Scalisi played in the BC game yesterday but that was an exhibition contest.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 17, 2015, 03:16:58 PM
When in doubt avoid contact with the catcher. Either slide or run around him. Or be subject to the judgment of an umpire.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on February 19, 2015, 02:21:12 PM
PP beats Bates 9-6 yesterday in some midweek action. Don't know much about Bates except they are a NESCAC school and handled CMS and CIT the way one would expect (15-4 and 9-1 respectively). PP went with the pitcher by committee (8 pitchers over 9 innings), and one of the only rough spots was Tall Guy Rosenbaum. He seems to still be shaking off the rust on the mound after that TJ surgery. Best to get that out of the way now though, and he did add a HR in the game (that's 3 on the year).

PP is scoring over 10 runs a game (albeit against a pretty soft schedule so far), but giving up 9 runs a game. I'm not sure whether I should take it as a good or bad sign that they are walking fewer guys this year and playing better defense, and still giving up a ton of runs. Obviously you want good D and strikes, but does that mean our pitchers are just plain ineffective? I have watched and have high opinions of a lot of the older guys who are struggling, so I guess there's still a lot of room for optimism. But still worrisome given the level of competition they've faced so far- opponents have a .354/.418/.518 slash line. 

SCIAC matchups this weekend (prediction)
ULV v. CMS (ULV 3-0) CMS has a lone bright spot in FR Trey Smith who was on the D3baseball.com Team of the week, but that's about it
PP v. UR (PP 2-1) Expecting more consistency from PP arms this weekend, but should still be a lot of high-scoring games. Important series for both teams.
CU v. CLU (CLU 2-1) I think Matt Smith manages to steal one from the Kingsmen, but could easily be a CLU sweep.
Oxy v. CIT (Oxy 3-0) At least one game, maybe two go the full nine innings
WC v. Bates (Bates 2-1) Bates showed they can beat the bottom of the SCIAC and gave PP a fight, Whittier's had a tough start.

Shout outs to Jake Bruml (PP- DH), Kyle Sanchez (CLU- 1B), and Matt Smith (CU- SP) for joining Trey Smith (CMS- OF) on the D3baseball.com Team of the week as well.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on February 19, 2015, 02:40:29 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on February 19, 2015, 02:21:12 PM
SCIAC matchups this weekend (prediction)
ULV v. CMS (ULV 3-0) CMS has a lone bright spot in FR Seth Smith who was on the D3baseball.com Team of the week, but that's about it
PP v. UR (PP 2-1) Expecting more consistency from PP arms this weekend, but should still be a lot of high-scoring games. Important series for both teams.
CU v. CLU (CLU 2-1) I think Matt Smith manages to steal one from the Kingsmen, but could easily be a CLU sweep.
Oxy v. CIT (Oxy 3-0) At least one game, maybe two go the full nine innings
WC v. Bates (Bates 2-1) Bates showed they can beat the bottom of the SCIAC and gave PP a fight, Whittier's had a tough start.

Shout outs to Jake Bruml (PP- DH), Kyle Sanchez (CLU- 1B), and Matt Smith (CU- SP) for joining Seth Smith (CMS- OF) on the D3baseball.com Team of the week as well.

Teddy:   Agreed on the shout outs for TOW recipients.

My picks:
- ULV to sweep CMS
- PP 2-1 over Redlands.  I'm expecting each to reach double digit runs at least 2x this weekend.
- CLU 2-1 over CU.  I agree that CU's best chance is Smith.  CLU scored 32 in 3 games against their Washington opponents.  I don't think they'll average double digits against CU, but will still win 2 or 3.
- Occi 3-0 over Caltech.  Occi will start year 5-1 in SCIAC, with CMS next weekend

I'll certainly enjoy watching baseball this weekend, especially after watching the weather map over the Midwest!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 20, 2015, 12:50:10 AM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on February 19, 2015, 02:40:29 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on February 19, 2015, 02:21:12 PM
SCIAC matchups this weekend (prediction)
ULV v. CMS (ULV 3-0) CMS has a lone bright spot in FR Seth Smith who was on the D3baseball.com Team of the week, but that's about it
PP v. UR (PP 2-1) Expecting more consistency from PP arms this weekend, but should still be a lot of high-scoring games. Important series for both teams.
CU v. CLU (CLU 2-1) I think Matt Smith manages to steal one from the Kingsmen, but could easily be a CLU sweep.
Oxy v. CIT (Oxy 3-0) At least one game, maybe two go the full nine innings
WC v. Bates (Bates 2-1) Bates showed they can beat the bottom of the SCIAC and gave PP a fight, Whittier's had a tough start.

Shout outs to Jake Bruml (PP- DH), Kyle Sanchez (CLU- 1B), and Matt Smith (CU- SP) for joining Seth Smith (CMS- OF) on the D3baseball.com Team of the week as well.

Teddy:   Agreed on the shout outs for TOW recipients.

My picks:
- ULV to sweep CMS
- PP 2-1 over Redlands.  I'm expecting each to reach double digit runs at least 2x this weekend.
- CLU 2-1 over CU.  I agree that CU's best chance is Smith.  CLU scored 32 in 3 games against their Washington opponents.  I don't think they'll average double digits against CU, but will still win 2 or 3.
- Occi 3-0 over Caltech.  Occi will start year 5-1 in SCIAC, with CMS next weekend

I'll certainly enjoy watching baseball this weekend, especially after watching the weather map over the Midwest!

Oxy 3-0 over Caltech
Cal Lu 2-1 over Chapman(CLU could go 3-0 if Chapman pitching or defense implodes) Chapman could be the Lakers of SCIAC
Pomona 2-1 over Redlands
La Verne 3-0 over CMS
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 20, 2015, 10:46:21 AM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on February 19, 2015, 02:21:12 PM


SCIAC matchups this weekend (prediction)
ULV v. CMS (ULV 3-0) CMS has a lone bright spot in FR Seth Smith who was on the D3baseball.com Team of the week, but that's about it
PP v. UR (PP 2-1) Expecting more consistency from PP arms this weekend, but should still be a lot of high-scoring games. Important series for both teams.
CU v. CLU (CLU 2-1) I think Matt Smith manages to steal one from the Kingsmen, but could easily be a CLU sweep.
Oxy v. CIT (Oxy 3-0) At least one game, maybe two go the full nine innings
WC v. Bates (Bates 2-1) Bates showed they can beat the bottom of the SCIAC and gave PP a fight, Whittier's had a tough start.


ULV takes 3 against CMS but 1 of the games is close.  I don't think hitting is the problem at CMS, it's the pitching by far.  Rough year ahead for CMS.

The PP/UR series could go either way but I think PP's bats are going to be too much and this is going to be a very high scoring weekend series.  Seeing the numbers Teddy posted I just don't know how long PP can keep up with this style of play. PP takes 2 of 3.

CU/CLU could be a good series but the biggest issue is Chapman's bullpen.  If CLU can get into the bullpen I would expect a sweep.  If Chapman's starters go long enough, I expect a 2-1 CLU series win.  Chapman lost 2/3 to Oxy last week and CLU is a much better hitting team than OXY.

OXY/CIT will be another OXY sweep to put them at 5-1.  After they take 3 against CMS next week (I think) they will have put themselves in pretty good position and a little pressure on the others not to slip up and drop games they shouldn't.  I agree that these games will not be blowouts, OXY just doesn't have the hitting but their pitching has been pretty solid.  DeRaad is having a monster start to the year too.  Looking forward to seeing what he can do against good pitching.

WC/Bates really means nothing to me but I will take the Poet's 2-1 simply because they are a SCIAC team.  Never even heard of Bates until this week so theres that.  Maybe WC can use this to work some things out and become competitive in the SCIAC.  If not, the SCIAC will be a 5 team race.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 20, 2015, 03:22:01 PM
Well I can tell you Bates should be enjoying the weather. I don't think their Apline ski team will have to worry about traveling to find snow.

http://athletics.bates.edu/sports/alpineski/index
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 20, 2015, 08:11:34 PM
Whittier takes Game 1, 4-3 over Bates.  Winning margin courtesy of a 2 out steal of home in the bottom of the 8th!  :o
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 20, 2015, 08:26:07 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on February 20, 2015, 03:22:01 PM
Well I can tell you Bates should be enjoying the weather. I don't think their Apline ski team will have to worry about traveling to find snow.

http://athletics.bates.edu/sports/alpineski/index

If I were Bates' coach I would have my team staying in Big Bear so they feel at home.  I wouldn't want my boys melting in the sun.   ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on February 21, 2015, 12:59:05 AM
Friday results:
UR over PP 5-2
Oxy over CIT 11-1 (8 innings)
ULV over CMS 20-4 (7 innings)
CLU over CU 5-0

Pretty much as expected. Of note:
-Low scoring Redlands- PP game, though this was the first in the series. Deeper into the rotations likely means more runs in Claremont tomorrow, but Minjarez threw a quality game for the Bulldogs.
-CIT was able to keep it at 3-1 until the seventh inning against Oxy. Looking forward to them against CMS at the end of March.
-ULV just went off on CMS. I think Jack was right about the Stags. Hitting will be adequate, pitching is a huge issue. ULV scores 20 on only four extra base hits. Caselli 4 for 5, now hitting .515 through 8 games.
-Scott Peters shut down the Chapman offense. 2 hits, 2 walks in a complete game shutout. Looks like Klaes was very effective after a shaky first three innings for Chapman though.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 21, 2015, 11:36:39 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 20, 2015, 08:26:07 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on February 20, 2015, 03:22:01 PM
Well I can tell you Bates should be enjoying the weather. I don't think their Apline ski team will have to worry about traveling to find snow.

http://athletics.bates.edu/sports/alpineski/index

If I were Bates' coach I would have my team staying in Big Bear so they feel at home.  I wouldn't want my boys melting in the sun.   ;D

Since I have a family cabin only ten miles from Bates' campus, I tend to follow their weather.  They have been warmer than Ypsi (SE Michigan) much of this winter!  But, yeah, much more snow. ;)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on February 22, 2015, 10:10:31 AM
Chapman split 2 yesterday to run their SCIAC record to 2-4.  Too early to panic: Laverty gave his returning guys and prime recruits the first chance to fill the spots vacated by graduation, defections and retirements but some have faltered. So he's had to give the other new guys (especially the pitchers)  "on the field" auditions right now. RHP Connor Williams hadn't pitched much his first 2 years as a spot starter/long relief guy but he salvaged the CLU series with a solid 6 IP effort. By mid March, I suspect Laverty will have figured out the 6-7 pitchers that he'll need to rely on and the lineup that he will mostly use the rest of the way. Once that happens, my guess is that the core will develop and be competitive. For the most part, its a young team in rebuilding mode.

They brought in 1 of their bigger recruiting classes this time and I'm inclined to think that the pitching will develop. The CU pitching coach recruits the pitchers. He was a minor leaguer himself back in the 80's, and over the years, he has developed a method re mechanics that consistently develops a pitcher (rotation of the hips, etc).  The best 2 examples would be Brian Rauh and Travis McGee (both arrived at Chapman for the 2010 season). I saw Rauh pitch in HS and when I saw him pitch again a year later at CU, he was throwing about 10mph faster and his rainbow curve had morphed into a tight, late breaking slider. Both he and McGee are pitching in the pros now (Rauh at high A for Washington).

PostScript on Coach T: for those who remember D-3's Coach of the Decade (who took CU to the CWS 8 times in 11 years), I had dinner last Christmas with someone who worked at CU's administration. Chancellor Doti  viewed T as an anachronism - a dinosaur - who's coaching methods were outdated and unacceptable. They hated  T's old school "tough" guy or bully approach (depending on your perspective).  Laverty is a nice guy. I hope he does well but I was sorry to see T go. My son did well by him both on and off the field. The last I heard is that T remains in Hawaii working at a non-baseball job.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on February 22, 2015, 11:25:37 AM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on February 19, 2015, 02:21:12 PM
SCIAC matchups this weekend (prediction)
ULV v. CMS (ULV 3-0) CMS has a lone bright spot in FR Trey Smith who was on the D3baseball.com Team of the week, but that's about it
PP v. UR (PP 2-1) Expecting more consistency from PP arms this weekend, but should still be a lot of high-scoring games. Important series for both teams.
CU v. CLU (CLU 2-1) I think Matt Smith manages to steal one from the Kingsmen, but could easily be a CLU sweep.
Oxy v. CIT (Oxy 3-0) At least one game, maybe two go the full nine innings
WC v. Bates (Bates 2-1) Bates showed they can beat the bottom of the SCIAC and gave PP a fight, Whittier's had a tough start.

Weekend Results:
ULV v. CMS: ULV 3-0 La Verne takes care of business on Saturday to complete the sweep. They're now 6-0 in SCIAC (having only played CIT and CMS), while CMS is 0-6 and 0-11 on the year.
PP v. UR: PP 2-1 After a low-scoring game 1, PP came out hot in game two and then relied on a CG SO from Bruml in game three to get the series win. PP moves to 5-1 in SCIAC, U of R sits at 3-3.
CU v. CLU CLU 2-1 I was wrong about how they would steal one, as Chapman wins game 3 thanks to their offense and some shaky starting pitching and defense from CLU. CLU still looks to be in control of the SCIAC, but showed their vulnerabilities. CLU is 2-1 in SCIAC, Chapman is 2-4.
Oxy v. CIT Oxy 3-0 I was right that CIT would take two games the full nine innings. Game 3 was 3-2 Oxy until the Tigers scored two more in the 8th. And this is an Oxy team that took 2/3 from Chapman. I really think CIT wins one this year- watch out Whittier and CMS (and everyone else for that matter). Oxy now 5-1 in SCIAC, CIT 0-6.
WC v. Bates Bates 2-1 Bates sweeps the Saturday doubleheader to win the series. Bates tallies 32 hits in the two games to Whittier's 11.

Not to toot my own horn, but got all five series predictions correct  ;D

One more note on the PP- Redlands series. Wasn't able to get out there this weekend, but sources on the ground tell me they were really impressed with the Redlands pitching. All three starters are freshmen and can really throw. Their #2 (Acosta) got knocked around a bit, but still came off as impressive- PP just swung the sticks well that game. Their #3 (Collins) pitched a great game but was simply out-dueled by Bruml.
And their bullpen was great too this weekend-
7.2 IP, 2 R, 1 ER, 4 H, 12 K's (!!!)
Seven of those strikeouts came from John White in his 3.2 IP in game 2. Really impressive stuff.

Regardless, it was huge for PP to come out and take that series after dropping the first one. Lot of folks had Redlands as the #2 in SCIAC behind CLU but it's gonna be a fun race. Pomona also managed those victories without starters EJ Lopez and Kevin Brice, who I'm told will be back next weekend for the Whittier series.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 23, 2015, 01:01:53 PM
[/quote]ULV takes 3 against CMS but 1 of the games is close.  I don't think hitting is the problem at CMS, it's the pitching by far.  Rough year ahead for CMS.

The PP/UR series could go either way but I think PP's bats are going to be too much and this is going to be a very high scoring weekend series.  Seeing the numbers Teddy posted I just don't know how long PP can keep up with this style of play. PP takes 2 of 3.

CU/CLU could be a good series but the biggest issue is Chapman's bullpen.  If CLU can get into the bullpen I would expect a sweep.  If Chapman's starters go long enough, I expect a 2-1 CLU series win.  Chapman lost 2/3 to Oxy last week and CLU is a much better hitting team than OXY.

OXY/CIT will be another OXY sweep to put them at 5-1.  After they take 3 against CMS next week (I think) they will have put themselves in pretty good position and a little pressure on the others not to slip up and drop games they shouldn't.  I agree that these games will not be blowouts, OXY just doesn't have the hitting but their pitching has been pretty solid.  DeRaad is having a monster start to the year too.  Looking forward to seeing what he can do against good pitching.

WC/Bates really means nothing to me but I will take the Poet's 2-1 simply because they are a SCIAC team.  Never even heard of Bates until this week so theres that.  Maybe WC can use this to work some things out and become competitive in the SCIAC.  If not, the SCIAC will be a 5 team race.
[/quote]


I really thought CMS was going to get the last game against ULV but it just wasn't in the cards for them.  No idea what is going out over there but I don't see them winning more than 5 games this year.  They get OXY this weekend and I see them taking 1, but I don't have any rhyme or reason for thinking that.

Great series between Redlands and Pomona.  Crazy to see game 3 come down to a complete game shutout by Bruml after we were talking about his struggles.  Redlands started off pretty hot and I still see them making the SCIAC Tourney at this point but they need to win series' against the top teams.

Cal Lu got 2 outstanding pitching performances on Friday and game 1 Saturday as they held Chapman to 2 runs in the first 2 games.  That all went away in a hurry as they got torched in the 3rd game.  Hats off to Williams from Chapman as he kept the CLU hitters in check, as did most of the Chapman pitching all weekend.

OXY and Cal Tech played and OXY swept.  Yaaaawn.  OXY had a 1 run lead late in game 3.  DeRaad continues to be hot at the plate.  They get CMS this weekend so its obvious the schedule gets tougher coming up.

Whittier lost 2 of 3 to a team coming out of the gym.  Gonna be a long year in Whittier.

SCIAC Standings
1. La Verne 6-0; Played Cal Tech and CMS so not much to get excited about.
2. OXY 5-1; Not going to hit much but the pitching has been solid. 
3. Pomona 5-1; Great hitting, improving pitching.  Took 2 of 3 from Redlands, who a lot seemed to be high on.
4. CLU 2-1; Won 2 of 3 from Chapman with great pitching for 2 games.  Need to hit much better if they get pitching like game 3.
5. Redlands 3-3; Not too sure what to make of them right now.  Young team, might go through some growing pains.
6. Chapman 2-4; Struggling big time at the plate but I don't/wont count them out at this point.
7. Whittier 1-2; Pitching is struggling and their hitting is nowhere near what is has been in the past.
8. Caltech 0-6; Played OXY very close in game 3.  I think this is the year they get a SCIAC win.
9. CMS 0-6; The CMS hoops team is having a great year!

My too early prediction for the SCIAC tourney is (not seeded, just the teams):
Cal Lu
Pomona
Chapman
Redlands/Oxy
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purplebaseball on February 23, 2015, 04:51:28 PM
I think one thing you have to look at is the rosters for CMS and Whittier, they are very young teams.  CMS has 4 starting freshmen position players.  Whittier has 4 freshmen starting position players along with 6 freshmen pitchers.  Chapman has 1 freshman starting at 1st base. La Verne, Oxy, CLU, Redlands, Pomona are all starting 2nd year players and above.  It will be rough year for CMS and Whittier but we will see how those freshmen develop over the next couple of years?   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 23, 2015, 09:53:43 PM
Quote from: Purplebaseball on February 23, 2015, 04:51:28 PM
I think one thing you have to look at is the rosters for CMS and Whittier, they are very young teams.  CMS has 4 starting freshmen position players.  Whittier has 4 freshmen starting position players along with 6 freshmen pitchers.  Chapman has 1 freshman starting at 1st base. La Verne, Oxy, CLU, Redlands, Pomona are all starting 2nd year players and above.  It will be rough year for CMS and Whittier but we will see how those freshmen develop over the next couple of years?   

Absolutely, a lot of youth on those squads and them getting this kind of time as freshman will only help in the future.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 25, 2015, 08:21:27 PM

SCIAC League Standings - Observations w/o CMS and Cal Tech:

OXY 2-1; vs. Chapman  (Oxy's 2 NC wins were over 1-5 Pacific, but Chapman series should not be dismissed) 
Pomona 2-1; vs. Redlands  (Taking 2 of 3 from UR is legit)
CLU 2-1; vs. Chapman    (3-0 vs. Chapman would have looked better...)
Redlands 3-3; 1-2 vs. P-P, 2-1 vs. Whittier  (Looked strong out of the gate, but WC loss will hang heavy, P-P knocked them down a peg)
Chapman 2-4; 1-2 vs. Oxy, 1-2 vs. CLU   (1-2 w/CLU is respectable; 1-2 sorta not w/Oxy...from a Chapman expectation point of view)
Whittier 1-2; vs. Redlands  (WC will have no easy games this season, including CMS and Cal Tech, beating Redlands proved you can't snooze past them)
La Verne 0-0; Yet to play a SCIAC team other than Cal Tech or CMS, Redlands series will be a litmus test... (1-3 NC, but the win over PacLu was a good win)

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on February 26, 2015, 10:57:29 AM
For the upcoming week:

Redlands vs LaVerne:  We'll begin to see how LaVerne will do this year.  I'll pick Redlands 2-1, but 3-0 wouldn't surprise me.

Pomona vs Whittier:   I'm uncertain between 3-0 PP or 2-1 PP.   I'm leaning with 2-1 PP, so that's what I'll go with.  PP has a chance to go to 8-1 with a sweep which would start to put more separation with Chapman who has 4 losses.

CLU 3-0 over Cal Tech

Occi vs CMS.  Occi should be able to sweep;  3-0 Occi


Projected SCIAC after the weekend:
- Occi     8-1
- LV       7-2   
- PP       7-2   
- CLU     5-1
- Redlands 5-4 
- Chapman 2-4
- Whittier   2-4
- CMS        0-9
- Cal Tech  0-9


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on February 27, 2015, 02:37:22 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on February 26, 2015, 10:57:29 AM
For the upcoming week:

Redlands vs LaVerne:  We'll begin to see how LaVerne will do this year.  I'll pick Redlands 2-1, but 3-0 wouldn't surprise me.

Pomona vs Whittier:   I'm uncertain between 3-0 PP or 2-1 PP.   I'm leaning with 2-1 PP, so that's what I'll go with.  PP has a chance to go to 8-1 with a sweep which would start to put more separation with Chapman who has 4 losses.

CLU 3-0 over Cal Tech

Occi vs CMS.  Occi should be able to sweep;  3-0 Occi

UR- ULV: UR 2-1 but this one is tough. I respect how ULV did in the early season and think they're a team that can always come out and knock you around. But hearing the reviews of the Redlands staff, I gotta go with them. Also wouldn't be surprised with 2-1 ULV or 3-0 UR.

PP-WC: PP 3-0 but they absolutely cannot take that team lightly, especially if they win big in game one or two.

CLU- CIT: CLU 3-0

Oxy-CMS: Oxy 3-0 but I see a chance for a CMS win, based on how close a couple of the Oxy-CIT games were
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 27, 2015, 03:31:54 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 25, 2015, 08:21:27 PM

SCIAC League Standings - Observations w/o CMS and Cal Tech:

OXY 2-1; vs. Chapman  (Oxy's 2 NC wins were over 1-5 Pacific, but Chapman series should not be dismissed) 
Pomona 2-1; vs. Redlands  (Taking 2 of 3 from UR is legit)
CLU 2-1; vs. Chapman    (3-0 vs. Chapman would have looked better...)
Redlands 3-3; 1-2 vs. P-P, 2-1 vs. Whittier  (Looked strong out of the gate, but WC loss will hang heavy, P-P knocked them down a peg)
Chapman 2-4; 1-2 vs. Oxy, 1-2 vs. CLU   (1-2 w/CLU is respectable; 1-2 sorta not w/Oxy...from a Chapman expectation point of view)
Whittier 1-2; vs. Redlands  (WC will have no easy games this season, including CMS and Cal Tech, beating Redlands proved you can't snooze past them)
La Verne 0-0; Yet to play a SCIAC team other than Cal Tech or CMS, Redlands series will be a litmus test... (1-3 NC, but the win over PacLu was a good win)

One thing to remember is Oxy was down 4-1 in the bottom of the 9th after getting 1 hit by Chapman up to that point.  Chapman had an absolute meltdown and that allowed Oxy to come back and win it.  Still a good series win as I really don't count Chapman out yet.  They have 2 starters that can beat anyone in the SCIAC and I expect them to claw their way back into contention.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 27, 2015, 03:42:37 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on February 26, 2015, 10:57:29 AM
For the upcoming week:

Redlands vs LaVerne:  We'll begin to see how LaVerne will do this year.  I'll pick Redlands 2-1, but 3-0 wouldn't surprise me.

Pomona vs Whittier:   I'm uncertain between 3-0 PP or 2-1 PP.   I'm leaning with 2-1 PP, so that's what I'll go with.  PP has a chance to go to 8-1 with a sweep which would start to put more separation with Chapman who has 4 losses.

CLU 3-0 over Cal Tech

Occi vs CMS.  Occi should be able to sweep;  3-0 Occi


Projected SCIAC after the weekend:
- Occi     8-1
- LV       7-2   
- PP       7-2   
- CLU     5-1
- Redlands 5-4 
- Chapman 2-4
- Whittier   2-4
- CMS        0-9
- Cal Tech  0-9
Early on it looks like a 4 horse race in the SCIAC. Will Chapman have winning record is the big question for me. They will do well against Whittier, CMS, Cal Tech. They get a single wins against the rest of the SCIAC in a series.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 27, 2015, 03:47:33 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on February 26, 2015, 10:57:29 AM
For the upcoming week:

Redlands vs LaVerne:  We'll begin to see how LaVerne will do this year.  I'll pick Redlands 2-1, but 3-0 wouldn't surprise me.

Pomona vs Whittier:   I'm uncertain between 3-0 PP or 2-1 PP.   I'm leaning with 2-1 PP, so that's what I'll go with.  PP has a chance to go to 8-1 with a sweep which would start to put more separation with Chapman who has 4 losses.

CLU 3-0 over Cal Tech

Occi vs CMS.  Occi should be able to sweep;  3-0 Occi


UR vs. ULV: I am going with ULV 2-1 but it could be the other way around.  Redlands started out with a pretty weak schedule and they have been ok.  ULV was really tested early on and I think that helps a lot. ULV 2-1

Pomona vs. Whittier: Everything points to a Pomona sweep but who knows, is this the week Whittier finds their bats?  Can Whittier shut down Pomona's hitting?  I am going with none of the above.  Pomona beats up on the pretty good. Pomona 3-0

CLU vs. Caltech: When is the Caltech/CMS matchup???  CLU beats up on them pretty bad. CLU 3-0

CMS vs. Oxy: I am going back and forth on this Oxy team.  Have a good weekend against Chapman and a week later take a 1 run lead into the bottom of the 8th against Caltech.  That just doesn't do it for me at all.  I think CMS puts it all together and takes one from Oxy. Oxy 2-1
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: olddog on February 27, 2015, 07:57:40 PM
Congrats to UR pitcher, Felix Minjarez for pitching a no hitter today against ULV. UR beat ULV 10-0 so the game went just 8 innings due to the mercy rule.

Former UR qb Mitch Samson was 2 for 4, with a single and triple, 2 RBI

Go Dawgs
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 27, 2015, 08:11:03 PM
P-P just cruised by WC 11-1 in 7.

Not saying WC had much going, but a costly fail to turn a DP in the 3rd turned a 4-0 P-P lead into a 10-0 laugher.  This is becoming a pattern of behavior for WC.  the only thing turning that would have done is build confidence for the middle IF's and possibly extend the game to a full 9.  P-P wasn't going to lose this one.

WC's freshman RF hit his 2nd of the season for the lone WC score.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on February 28, 2015, 08:22:27 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 27, 2015, 08:11:03 PM
P-P just cruised by WC 11-1 in 7.

Not saying WC had much going, but a costly fail to turn a DP in the 3rd turned a 4-0 P-P lead into a 10-0 laugher.  This is becoming a pattern of behavior for WC.  the only thing turning that would have done is build confidence for the middle IF's and possibly extend the game to a full 9.  P-P wasn't going to lose this one.

WC's freshman RF hit his 2nd of the season for the lone WC score.

Tried to make it out to the game from the Westside of LA... two and half hours later i arrived to see the final out in a game that was played in under two hours. D'oh. Anyway, PP finishes out the sweep today with a 13-0 win (Yen finally has the great outing we've been waiting for) and a 6-2 win in the finale. PP only had to use four pitchers all weekend, combined to only give up:
3 Runs 15 hits 4 BBs in 23 IP. Grain of salt with the lackluster Whittier offense obviously, but still a great weekend on the mound.
Also, Sam Fox- a Senior- followed up his first career home run this morning with... TWO MORE (5-10 with 3 HRs 8 RBIs in the two games).

In other news, Oxy escapes for a 6-5 win in the afternoon game to sweep CMS
Cal Lu does Cal Lu things to CIT, sweep.
ULV up 7-5 late, hoping to salvage one game in their series against Redlands (after the no-no on Friday)

Edit: ULV beats Redlands 10-6, Redlands takes the series 2-1
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on February 28, 2015, 08:35:37 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on February 27, 2015, 02:37:22 PM
UR- ULV: UR 2-1 but this one is tough. I respect how ULV did in the early season and think they're a team that can always come out and knock you around. But hearing the reviews of the Redlands staff, I gotta go with them. Also wouldn't be surprised with 2-1 ULV or 3-0 UR.

PP-WC: PP 3-0 but they absolutely cannot take that team lightly, especially if they win big in game one or two.

CLU- CIT: CLU 3-0

Oxy-CMS: Oxy 3-0 but I see a chance for a CMS win, based on how close a couple of the Oxy-CIT games were
Results:
UR 2-1 ULV
PP 3-0 WC
CLU 3-0 CIT
Oxy 3-0 CMS

For those keeping track at home, that's two weeks in a row of correct picks.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purplebaseball on March 01, 2015, 12:25:55 AM
One thing that I would like to bring up about the PP Whittier series in game 1 of the double header today Coach Rizzo started Jr. Matt Webster who gave up 7 runs in 2.1 innings and it was all down hill for Whittier after that.
In game 2 Coach Rizzo starts Freshman Justin Ushio a converted 3rd baseman who threw 5 innings with 5k's 7 hits and 2 runs on one mistake.  He hung breaking ball to Sam Fox for a 2 run HR in the 3rd inning.  Ushio kept the PP bats off balance most of the game hitting his spots and changing speeds effectively.  Freshmen Royce Komesu and Matthew Macey came on in relief to finish out the game allowing 4 runs over the next 4 innings as  PP won 6-2.  What does this mean about the PP bats?  I don't know but if I was Oxy-LV or CLU I might take note.  Your not going to over power the PP bats but you can pitch to them as the Freshmen showed.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 01, 2015, 12:43:22 AM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on February 28, 2015, 08:35:37 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on February 27, 2015, 02:37:22 PM
UR- ULV: UR 2-1 but this one is tough. I respect how ULV did in the early season and think they're a team that can always come out and knock you around. But hearing the reviews of the Redlands staff, I gotta go with them. Also wouldn't be surprised with 2-1 ULV or 3-0 UR.

PP-WC: PP 3-0 but they absolutely cannot take that team lightly, especially if they win big in game one or two.

CLU- CIT: CLU 3-0

Oxy-CMS: Oxy 3-0 but I see a chance for a CMS win, based on how close a couple of the Oxy-CIT games were
Results:
UR 2-1 ULV
PP 3-1 WC
CLU 3-0 CIT
Oxy 3-0 CMS

For those keeping track at home, that's two weeks in a row of correct picks.

You trying to sneak an extra win in for Pomona ;D?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 01, 2015, 03:29:18 AM
Quote from: Purplebaseball on March 01, 2015, 12:25:55 AM
One thing that I would like to bring up about the PP Whittier series in game 1 of the double header today Coach Rizzo started Jr. Matt Webster who gave up 7 runs in 2.1 innings and it was all down hill for Whittier after that.
In game 2 Coach Rizzo starts Freshman Justin Ushio a converted 3rd baseman who threw 5 innings with 5k's 7 hits and 2 runs on one mistake.  He hung breaking ball to Sam Fox for a 2 run HR in the 3rd inning.  Ushio kept the PP bats off balance most of the game hitting his spots and changing speeds effectively.  Freshmen Royce Komesu and Matthew Macey came on in relief to finish out the game allowing 4 runs over the next 4 innings as  PP won 6-2.  What does this mean about the PP bats?  I don't know but if I was Oxy-LV or CLU I might take note.  Your not going to over power the PP bats but you can pitch to them as the Freshmen showed.

Friend Purplebaseball, I think you are seeing through a bit of Purple Haze...yes Game 3 was closer, and yes, the 3 Frosh pitchers combined for a more respectable outcome.  But they gave up 17 hits in that game and it took several exceptional defensive plays to keep this one close.  If it showed anything it showed that P-P is better than Redlands - the P-P lineup is deeper than Redlands and absolutely killed the Poets pitching - regardless of age - when hitting with two strikes.

In game 3, the effort Whittier showed is the required effort for all 3 games of a series.  That level of effort beat Redlands and Bates, and the same level of effort, if they can sustain it, gives them a chance against ULV next week. The Poets can play defense but will they hit?

The bottom line fact is that Whittier needs to start hitting and scoring runs because it puts too much pressure on their pitching otherwise.  They've played a tough schedule to date, I am anxious to see if if they can pick themselves back up.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 01, 2015, 10:47:04 AM
My observations regarding the SCIAC after week 3...

Oxy continues to roll but they haven't exactly played the toughest schedule.  Yes they are 10-2 but their opponents are a combined 6-38 which makes me wonder even more about them, especially after sneaking out a couple of one-run games this weekend against Claremont.  I just don't buy this team yet, but I definitely have stock in DeRaad.  He continues to crush the ball and hit another HR this weekend.

Whittier has played a pretty tough schedule so far which makes the results a little less surprising to me.  The major issue with them is that they are hitting .207 as a team overall (.218 in conference.)  Heck, Caltech is hitting .224 as a team.  Regardless of who they have played, hitting .207 isn't going to win many ballgames.

Redlands obviously has found a good one with Minjarez tossing a no-no on Friday against La Verne.  After winning game 2 of the series, Redlands lost game 3 after having the lead.  The one thing I wonder about is whether or not Minjarez can continue to throw a ton of innings as a Freshman and if they can find someone to win game 3 of a series, something they have yet to do.

Cal Lu knocked Caltech all over the place, as they should.  Starting Friday they have 10 games in 11 days which will be a huge test on their pitching.  Mixed in those games is a matchup with Linfield.

Chapman was off and I think it came at a pretty good time.  Their opponents have a combined 24-6 record and it's not like they have been getting blown out.  Starting with Caltech this weekend, I thin Chapman goes on a pretty serious run.

CMS and Caltech could be an awesome series with the Beavers getting their first win in SCIAC in a looooooooooong time.

Pomona has really turned around the pitching issues and they are on a pretty hot streak right now.  Bruml has been awesome in his last 2 starts and they hit the ball all over the place.

I don't have a read on La Verne but I am sure they are the same scrappy team they have always been.  They got no-hit the other day and only took 1 game from Redlands.  Still time left to put it together but I'm not sure they will.

Way too early predictions for the SCIAC Tournament*:
Cal Lu
Pomona
Chapman
Oxy

*Not seeded that way, just those are the 4.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purplebaseball on March 01, 2015, 02:03:16 PM
Purple Heys....No fog...has nothing to do with Whittier...regardless of what team..I'm just stating what I witnesses.  When you have a Freshman pitcher who never pitched game in high school takes the bump and holds PP to 2 runs regardless of the defensive plays behind him. (also 3 errors) it makes me wonder what Scott Peters from Cal Lu or Joseph King from Oxy will be able to do vs. PP bats when crunch time comes in the SCIAC.  Felix Minjarez from Redlands did the same thing to PP in his 5-2 win over PP, mixed pitches threw breaking balls in fastball counts and had PP off balance. Most guys at this level can hit a 85mph fastball when they know it's coming.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 01, 2015, 05:34:49 PM
Quote from: Purplebaseball on March 01, 2015, 02:03:16 PM
Purple Heys....No fog...has nothing to do with Whittier...regardless of what team..I'm just stating what I witnesses.  When you have a Freshman pitcher who never pitched game in high school takes the bump and holds PP to 2 runs regardless of the defensive plays behind him. (also 3 errors) it makes me wonder what Scott Peters from Cal Lu or Joseph King from Oxy will be able to do vs. PP bats when crunch time comes in the SCIAC.  Felix Minjarez from Redlands did the same thing to PP in his 5-2 win over PP, mixed pitches threw breaking balls in fastball counts and had PP off balance. Most guys at this level can hit a 85mph fastball when they know it's coming.

Point taken...I better understand where you are coming from.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 01, 2015, 06:03:26 PM
 SCIAC
Occidental 8-1 10-2
Pomona-Pitzer 8-1 11-3
Cal Lutheran 5-1 8-1
La Verne 7-2 8-5
Redlands 5-4 8-4
Chapman 2-4 4-5
Whittier 1-5 2-11
Caltech 0-9 0-12
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 0-9 0-15

Chapman should pick up 6 wins over the next 2 weeks with Caltech and CMS as opponents
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purplebaseball on March 01, 2015, 06:35:37 PM
Does anyone know why CMS win over Okanagan College on Feb 10th doesn't count as a W?  Is it because Okanagan is in the CCBC and it's considered an exhibition game?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 01, 2015, 07:02:03 PM
Quote from: Purplebaseball on March 01, 2015, 06:35:37 PM
Does anyone know why CMS win over Okanagan College on Feb 10th doesn't count as a W?  Is it because Okanagan is in the CCBC and it's considered an exhibition game?

Does it matter?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 01, 2015, 07:02:49 PM
Quote from: Purplebaseball on March 01, 2015, 06:35:37 PM
Does anyone know why CMS win over Okanagan College on Feb 10th doesn't count as a W?  Is it because Okanagan is in the CCBC and it's considered an exhibition game?

No, it doesn't count.  You are allowed to play an exhibition game against a foreign opponent every year.  Many teams play the University of British Columbia each year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purplebaseball on March 01, 2015, 10:50:40 PM
Got it...thanks...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on March 02, 2015, 01:09:09 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 01, 2015, 12:43:22 AM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on February 28, 2015, 08:35:37 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on February 27, 2015, 02:37:22 PM
UR- ULV: UR 2-1 but this one is tough. I respect how ULV did in the early season and think they're a team that can always come out and knock you around. But hearing the reviews of the Redlands staff, I gotta go with them. Also wouldn't be surprised with 2-1 ULV or 3-0 UR.

PP-WC: PP 3-0 but they absolutely cannot take that team lightly, especially if they win big in game one or two.

CLU- CIT: CLU 3-0

Oxy-CMS: Oxy 3-0 but I see a chance for a CMS win, based on how close a couple of the Oxy-CIT games were
Results:
UR 2-1 ULV
PP 3-1 WC
CLU 3-0 CIT
Oxy 3-0 CMS

For those keeping track at home, that's two weeks in a row of correct picks.

You trying to sneak an extra win in for Pomona ;D?

Fixed :)
But also, I gave Whittier the extra win! So you can't blame the homer-ism for that one.

Re: Purplebaseball's comments, I appreciate the observations about Pomona and don't doubt there's something to it. Good for that Freshman getting in there and scrapping and keeping the run count low. But as Purple Heys pointed out, PP got 17 hits in the game. That's a ton. Obviously they need to convert more of those into runs, but I think it's still a very impressive performance. And there's absolutely something to be said about a let down game after winning by double digits in 7 innings the first two games.

Definitely something to your point about success coming from keeping guys off balance though. I think that's where a lot of successful D3 pitchers get their best results. Not a ton of guys at this level can overpower hitters- it's the ones that can hit spots and throw off-speed pitches for strikes that do well.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 02, 2015, 02:19:19 AM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on March 02, 2015, 01:09:09 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 01, 2015, 12:43:22 AM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on February 28, 2015, 08:35:37 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on February 27, 2015, 02:37:22 PM
UR- ULV: UR 2-1 but this one is tough. I respect how ULV did in the early season and think they're a team that can always come out and knock you around. But hearing the reviews of the Redlands staff, I gotta go with them. Also wouldn't be surprised with 2-1 ULV or 3-0 UR.

PP-WC: PP 3-0 but they absolutely cannot take that team lightly, especially if they win big in game one or two.

CLU- CIT: CLU 3-0

Oxy-CMS: Oxy 3-0 but I see a chance for a CMS win, based on how close a couple of the Oxy-CIT games were
Results:
UR 2-1 ULV
PP 3-1 WC
CLU 3-0 CIT
Oxy 3-0 CMS

For those keeping track at home, that's two weeks in a row of correct picks.

You trying to sneak an extra win in for Pomona ;D?

Fixed :)
But also, I gave Whittier the extra win! So you can't blame the homer-ism for that one.

Re: Purplebaseball's comments, I appreciate the observations about Pomona and don't doubt there's something to it. Good for that Freshman getting in there and scrapping and keeping the run count low. But as Purple Heys pointed out, PP got 17 hits in the game. That's a ton. Obviously they need to convert more of those into runs, but I think it's still a very impressive performance. And there's absolutely something to be said about a let down game after winning by double digits in 7 innings the first two games.

Definitely something to your point about success coming from keeping guys off balance though. I think that's where a lot of successful D3 pitchers get their best results. Not a ton of guys at this level can overpower hitters- it's the ones that can hit spots and throw off-speed pitches for strikes that do well.
Fixed it for you TB...I think you transposed your Purples
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 02, 2015, 02:35:11 AM
Whittier might have picked the wrong season to amp up the schedule...this was the season to put some St. Katherine's games into the mix.

No excuses though, time to pull back together and get after ULV.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purplebaseball on March 02, 2015, 04:04:54 AM
Very true Purple Heys!  Tough schedule and bad baseball don't mix!  Will see what happens this weekend if Whittier can turn it around?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 02, 2015, 12:12:08 PM
Got a lot of purple going on here......
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 02, 2015, 02:39:14 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 02, 2015, 12:12:08 PM
Got a lot of purple going on here......

Dads with freshman... ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 02, 2015, 02:41:45 PM
I am old-timer from IIAC football - older boy played there 2006-09...youngest is a freshie at WC.

Love me my D3 sports though.  Happy to be active in it again.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purplebaseball on March 02, 2015, 04:51:36 PM
Alum with a grandson attending.....
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 02, 2015, 04:54:24 PM
Purple(s)

Love it and welcome! Good luck to both of your players.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 02, 2015, 06:50:25 PM
Quote from: Purplebaseball on March 02, 2015, 04:51:36 PM
Alum with a grandson attending.....

A double purple!  Allow me to drop a +K on you.  Best of luck to our boys!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 04, 2015, 05:19:02 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 02, 2015, 06:50:25 PM
Quote from: Purplebaseball on March 02, 2015, 04:51:36 PM
Alum with a grandson attending.....

A double purple!  Allow me to drop a +K on you.  Best of luck to our boys!

Just so Appleton doesn't get as purple as Salem has been lately in football! ::)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DoubleDomer on March 05, 2015, 01:34:51 PM
Just saw in the CMS weekly note to parents that the Stags are 0-15. Pitiful. I didn't know that Kyle Sweeney was coaching baseball now, too. [rimshot]
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 05, 2015, 09:30:08 PM
SCIAC games on tap for the weekend. 

Oxy vs. Redlands- I say Redlands 2-1 as I think Minjarez will win on Friday and they split on Saturday.

La Verne vs. Whittier- I will go with ULV 3-0 but I think it's a pretty close series.

Chapman vs. Caltech- This starts a pretty good run for Chapman and they start clawing back in the SCIAC.

Cal Lu vs. Claremont- Cal Lu is way too much for a team with a 9+ ERA.

Pomona is on a bye from conference games.

Predicted standing after the weekend:

1. Pomona 8-1
1. Cal Lu 8-1
3. ULV 10-2
4. Oxy 9-3
5. Redlands 7-5
6. Chapman 5-4
7. Whittier 1-8
8. Caltech 0-12
8. Claremont 0-12
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 06, 2015, 10:18:17 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 05, 2015, 09:30:08 PM
SCIAC games on tap for the weekend. 

Oxy vs. Redlands- I say Redlands 2-1 as I think Minjarez will win on Friday and they split on Saturday.

La Verne vs. Whittier- I will go with ULV 3-0 but I think it's a pretty close series.

Chapman vs. Caltech- This starts a pretty good run for Chapman and they start clawing back in the SCIAC.

Cal Lu vs. Claremont- Cal Lu is way too much for a team with a 9+ ERA.

Pomona is on a bye from conference games.

Predicted standing after the weekend:

1. Pomona 8-1
1. Cal Lu 8-1
3. ULV 10-2
4. Oxy 9-3
5. Redlands 7-5
6. Chapman 5-4
7. Whittier 1-8
8. Caltech 0-12
8. Claremont 0-12
JP, I agree with your picks.

I was thinking about picking Oxy 2-1 over Redlands, as I think Kling will bounce back after a relatively rough outing against CMS (4ER in 5 2/3).   But, Minjarez is pitching too well to pick against him.   
If Redlands doesn't take two, they'll have 6 losses with series against Cal Lu and Chapman later this month.  Of course, they still have CMS and Cal Tech before the round robin.   

Last year LV made top 4 with 15-13 in SCIAC; I think this years #4 will need 11 or less losses to go through, just like 2013.
2014:  3 teams with 13-14 losses, only one made Conf tournament
2013:  4 teams 11-13 losses, only the two 11 loss teams made Conf Tournament


PS:  Nice and hot this weekend for SoCal baseball, 80+ degrees.  But Let's hope the wind settles down.   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 06, 2015, 10:18:53 AM
Quote from: DoubleDomer on March 05, 2015, 01:34:51 PM
Just saw in the CMS weekly note to parents that the Stags are 0-15. Pitiful. I didn't know that Kyle Sweeney was coaching baseball now, too. [rimshot]

Maybe this is the year that Cal Tech breaks the streak? 0-15 makes it tough to show up for practice at times.

Any leads on their next head coach? I know of quite a few quality high school coaches in that area that would be great fits for that program.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 06, 2015, 10:53:02 AM
I would think that given CMS reputation as a school they could field a very successful program, if the school put some money into the facilities, which are very substandard. 4 years ago there was some talk about the school putting in an updated sports facility; not sure what happened with that. I agree with Poppa that there should be some talented coaches in the area that would be a good fit for the program.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purplebaseball on March 08, 2015, 03:59:09 PM
Well Purple Heys another long weekend for Whittier.  :-[  Game 1 we have 4-1 lead going into the 6th and can't hold it.  Game 2 2-1 lead going into the 8th and can't hold.  Game 3 give up a 10 spot in the 5th game over.  Starting pitching put up some good numbers..late relief let us down this weekend.  The only bright spot from the weekend the bats woke up a little bit putting up 29 hits over the contest.  Going to be a long year :'(
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 08, 2015, 06:44:42 PM
Hopefully Drew (NJ) is enjoying the weather during their trip here to SoCal.

CLU 27 - Drew 3

Not much needs to be said.   They play another game tomorrow.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on March 08, 2015, 06:57:04 PM
I saw Caltech was up 8-0 over Chapman in like the 6th inning yesterday, and although Chapman battled back for the W, it brought to mind for me a great scene from the classic movie "Revenge of the nerds", when the girl from Omega Mu takes it to Ogre in an arm wrestling match, forcing him to really hump-up late to pull out the victory
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 08, 2015, 07:12:31 PM
Quote from: Purplebaseball on March 08, 2015, 03:59:09 PM
Well Purple Heys another long weekend for Whittier.  :-[  Game 1 we have 4-1 lead going into the 6th and can't hold it.  Game 2 2-1 lead going into the 8th and can't hold.  Game 3 give up a 10 spot in the 5th game over.  Starting pitching put up some good numbers..late relief let us down this weekend.  The only bright spot from the weekend the bats woke up a little bit putting up 29 hits over the contest.  Going to be a long year :'(

A lot of times what separates the more successful programs is pitching depth. Many times a team will have at least one or maybe two pitchers who can keep a team in a game and once you get beyond those then the talent is not there. You see this in three game series where the first game can be tight and then slowly get worse over the weekend or a team may have a lead and give it up late in the game.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 08, 2015, 07:28:45 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 08, 2015, 07:12:31 PM
Quote from: Purplebaseball on March 08, 2015, 03:59:09 PM
Well Purple Heys another long weekend for Whittier.  :-[  Game 1 we have 4-1 lead going into the 6th and can't hold it.  Game 2 2-1 lead going into the 8th and can't hold.  Game 3 give up a 10 spot in the 5th game over.  Starting pitching put up some good numbers..late relief let us down this weekend.  The only bright spot from the weekend the bats woke up a little bit putting up 29 hits over the contest.  Going to be a long year :'(

A lot of times what separates the more successful programs is pitching depth. Many times a team will have at least one or maybe two pitchers who can keep a team in a game and once you get beyond those then the talent is not there. You see this in three game series where the first game can be tight and then slowly get worse over the weekend or a team may have a lead and give it up late in the game.

Purplebaseball:  it already is a long year...we're finding new ways to lose, that's a bad circumstance.

108:  Too true...you can never have enough pitching and that is one thing  Whittier is struggling to find.

The good news (always positive) when we've had a full game of good (not great) pitching and good (not great) fielding, and good (not great) hitting, we beat two pretty good teams - Redlands and Bates.  We've not been able to get all 3 aspects together more often and win games - such as the 1st two games of the ULV series where we had the upper hand for the majority of those games.

As long as we struggle to hit in bunches, with runners aboard, we put more pressure on a thin pitching staff, and that's not a great place to be.

Still, there's plenty of season left and there's a lot of pride in that dugout.  Whittier's gonna keep competing.  Baseball's a cruel sport 0 when you are down it steps on you harder.  But then almost magically you can pull out of it and every batted ball drops in, every pitch nips the corner and you seemingly can't lose.

I'm just glad we are in SoCal and get to watch a double header at a fine facility like Hines Field at La Verne in such great weather.  And I am pleased as punch that my kid is competing in a great league against some great competition, and getting a great education on and off the field.

How bad can that be?

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purplebaseball on March 08, 2015, 10:08:11 PM
Agree 100%!  Well said..........
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 08, 2015, 10:48:36 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 08, 2015, 06:44:42 PM
Hopefully Drew (NJ) is enjoying the weather during their trip here to SoCal.

CLU 27 - Drew 3

Not much needs to be said.   They play another game tomorrow.

How many field goals did CLU kick?  CLU does have a Frosh team.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on March 08, 2015, 11:10:44 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 06, 2015, 10:53:02 AM
I would think that given CMS reputation as a school they could field a very successful program, if the school put some money into the facilities, which are very substandard. 4 years ago there was some talk about the school putting in an updated sports facility; not sure what happened with that. I agree with Poppa that there should be some talented coaches in the area that would be a good fit for the program.

Honestly, their baseball field is fine. Not great, but not all that bad for a DIII school. They're in the middle of construction of a new sports complex for basketball and weights. But if you look at the rest of their sports, they typically field very strong teams. And I believe, generally, their admissions actually put weight on athletics (as well they should). The issue is unique to the baseball team. I genuinely believe they fielded one of the more talented teams in the SCIAC when I was there, but they didn't have the discipline, chemistry, or drive necessary for sustained success (but could throw up 15 runs, pitch a gem, and beat pretty much anybody on a given day).

Rivalries aside, I had a lot of respect for the guys that played over there and count many of them as friends. I'm sure they're as disappointed over the current situation as anyone. Nobody wants to see a program with that kind of history going through these struggles. Cummins was phenomenal player and I've heard a really good guy, and Pelzer and Sheely have tremendous resumes (both played several years of high level pro ball), so I think the coaching is in a better spot than it had been. I'm optimistic that they can turn things around soon, and hope they do.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on March 08, 2015, 11:21:00 PM
Also- PP had the weekend off from SCIAC play, but got to host Ithaca today in the Bomber's season opener. Lane Miles pitched another great game, EJ Lopez hit his first bomb of the year, and the Hens pulled out a 5-2 win.

Ithaca and PP play again tomorrow, while CLU gets another game against Drew.

As Spring Break has begun in some areas, the SCIAC welcomes visitors throughout the week.

Tues 3/10 WC v. Drew, CMS v. Ithaca
Wed 3/11 Oxy v. Drew, Chapman v. Ithaca
Thu 3/12 CIT v. Drew (DH), Oxy v. Ithaca, Conordia (Wis.) v. CLU
Fri 3/13 UoR v. Rutgers-Newark, Oxy v. Spalding, UoR v. Ithaca, CLU v. Wesleyan (Conn.)
Sat 3/14 Oxy v. Rutgers (DH), WC v. Kean, UoR v. Spalding, CLU v. Linfield
Sun 3/15 CLU v. Southwestern, Chapman v. Spalding

Additionally, PP plays ULV next weekend and CMS plays Chapman.
*The CLU games are part of the Tucson Invitational.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 09, 2015, 12:26:46 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 05, 2015, 09:30:08 PM
SCIAC games on tap for the weekend. 

Oxy vs. Redlands- I say Redlands 2-1 as I think Minjarez will win on Friday and they split on Saturday.

La Verne vs. Whittier- I will go with ULV 3-0 but I think it's a pretty close series.

Chapman vs. Caltech- This starts a pretty good run for Chapman and they start clawing back in the SCIAC.

Cal Lu vs. Claremont- Cal Lu is way too much for a team with a 9+ ERA.

Pomona is on a bye from conference games.

Predicted standing after the weekend:

1. Pomona 8-1
1. Cal Lu 8-1
3. ULV 10-2
4. Oxy 9-3
5. Redlands 7-5
6. Chapman 5-4
7. Whittier 1-8
8. Caltech 0-12
8. Claremont 0-12

Well Well Well, I will toot my own horn here as I was perfect on my picks this weekend.  It wasn't easy for a few teams as there were some tight games.

Oxy/Redlands- Oxy got smoked in game 1 and showed some character coming back taking the morning game on Saturday.  Redlands seems like they are pretty scrappy as they won game 3 in extras.

LaVerne/Whittier- Gotta feel bad for the Poets as they had the lead late in games 1 and 2.  I think this shows that Whittier has something to build on for the rest of the year and will be a team that could be a spoiler down the road.

Chapman/Caltech- Chapman did what was expected in games 1 and 2 but needed to really pull it together in game 3.  It's crazy to see them down 8-0, only to score 19 straight and get the run-rule victory.  I really wish Caltech was able to pull it out and I don't think this is like many of the Caltech teams of the past.  I still think they win a SCIAC game this year.

CLU/CMS- CLU's pitching gave up 4 runs in the 3 games and got plenty of offense.  Some guys putting up big numbers for CLU and they did a good job holding CMS down.  I think there are some solid hitters for the Stags but the pitching just isn't there.

Good win today for Pomona as they beat a good Ithaca team.  The CLU/Drew game got out of hand and it's tough for a team like Drew to come out and play their 2nd game against a team that has played 10+ games and hasn't been practicing in a gym.  Some great match ups coming up over the next week with a lot of teams traveling. Good luck to all.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 09, 2015, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 08, 2015, 10:48:36 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 08, 2015, 06:44:42 PM
Hopefully Drew (NJ) is enjoying the weather during their trip here to SoCal.

CLU 27 - Drew 3

Not much needs to be said.   They play another game tomorrow.

How many field goals did CLU kick?  CLU does have a Frosh team.

They swapped out 7 starters from 5th inning on; and it went from 9-0 to 16-0 that inning.  In total, scored 18 runs from 5th inning on.  One of their subs, Todd, ended up 3-3 with 6 rbi's, included grand slam.  In total subs 7-13 plus 5 walks.   
It's early in Drew's season, only their 2nd game.  They threw 6 pitchers and some of them struggled with location.  They hit 5 batters and plus walked a total of 9 .  Fielders are still adjusting, 6 errors.

It's a start of a long SoCal trip for Drew, playing CalLu, Oxy, CMS, Whittier and Cal Tech(2x).   
Ithaca is on a similar SoCal trip.  It will be interesting to see how they do.  They lost to PP yesterday 5-2.  They continue with PP today before playing CMS, Chapman, Oxy and Redlands. 
     
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 09, 2015, 03:30:20 PM
So far it looks like Cal Lu and Pomona is fighting it out for the 1 spot

Middle of La Verne., Occidental, Redlands and Chapman

The bottom of Whittier, CMS, and Cal Tech.

My prediction is Cal Lu will be the Pool A bid team from the SCIAC

Pomona/La Verne will fight for a Pool C bids

Rest of the SCIAC will be at home at the BBQ during May.

http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/index
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purplebaseball on March 09, 2015, 11:31:36 PM
Wow...Cal Lu needs extras to beat Drew in 11 innings today 8-7.  Big turn around for Drew today.  Did Cal Lu take them for granted today?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 10, 2015, 11:17:53 AM
Quote from: Purplebaseball on March 09, 2015, 11:31:36 PM
Wow...Cal Lu needs extras to beat Drew in 11 innings today 8-7.  Big turn around for Drew today.  Did Cal Lu take them for granted today?

It was a case of their #5 starter and first reliever starting poorly.  Down 6-3 going into bottom of 2nd.  Starting pitcher walked 3 in 1/3 inning, first reliever gave up 4 in 1 1/3. 
After that their 3 relievers held Drew to 1 run in the next 9 1/3 innings, including their closer L. Kiyabu going 5 scoreless, hitless for the win.


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 10, 2015, 11:54:58 AM
It is not that unusual for early season ball as teams are working through their rotations. What separates the better teams are having the depth to bring in their "go to guys" late in a game to secure a win, which they did. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 10, 2015, 01:43:57 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 10, 2015, 11:54:58 AM
It is not that unusual for early season ball as teams are working through their rotations. What separates the better teams are having the depth to bring in their "go to guys" late in a game to secure a win, which they did.

108, I agree. 

And, we'll probably see more of this scenario from CLU this week/weekend in Tucson and next Tues against Rutgers-Newark.   I expect they'll throw the same 5 starters during those 5 games with opportunities for bullpen work in several of the games.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 11, 2015, 09:40:28 AM
Nice to see Claremont pick up their first win of the year yesterday after beating Ithaca with a walk-off homer in extra innings.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on March 11, 2015, 01:08:24 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 11, 2015, 09:40:28 AM
Nice to see Claremont pick up their first win of the year yesterday after beating Ithaca with a walk-off homer in extra innings.

Great news. I think they'll definitely snag a few more this year, and likely with pretty similar final scores (9-8 yesterday).

Also- Trey Smith (Fr. OF) went 3 for 5 w/ 2 Runs, 4 RBI, and 2 HRs including the walk off. Kid's got six bombs already this year with a .313/.390/.657 slash line. Freshman Nolan Anderson also hitting .353 with a couple bombs.

In fact, the only senior getting consistent ABs is Michael Gose (the third of the Gose brothers to play for the Stags- is that the end of the line??), and there's only one senior getting any consistent innings on the mound. Granted, Gose is hitting over .400 on the year, but the senior pitcher has an ERA over 10. It's reassuring for their future that they've got a lot of youth on that team and they're being throw into the fire young, so they'll have plenty of in-game experience as they get older.

Side note: just noticed that last week's D3 team of the week did not feature Redlands Freshman SP, and SCIAC Male Athlete of the Week, Felix Minjarez. Kid threw a no-no against a good La Verne team (.313 team BA this year) and gets no love! Granted, the three pitchers all threw fantastic games- I believe all one-hitters- but still. Is that a problem with the UoR SID not campaigning hard enough, or a selection oversight?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 11, 2015, 03:51:08 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 09, 2015, 03:30:20 PM
So far it looks like Cal Lu and Pomona is fighting it out for the 1 spot

Middle of La Verne., Occidental, Redlands and Chapman

The bottom of Whittier, CMS, and Cal Tech.

My prediction is Cal Lu will be the Pool A bid team from the SCIAC

Pomona/La Verne will fight for a Pool C bids

Rest of the SCIAC will be at home at the BBQ during May.

http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/index

I throw down a mean Carne Asada BBQ (ask my IIAC football friends), and with a newly installed artificial surface putting green and bocce ball court, plus the new fire pit and hot tub....playoffs only get in the way anyway.

8-)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: doolittledog on March 11, 2015, 06:53:53 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 11, 2015, 03:51:08 PM

I throw down a mean Carne Asada BBQ (ask my IIAC football friends), and with a newly installed artificial surface putting green and bocce ball court, plus the new fire pit and hot tub....playoffs only get in the way anyway.

8-)

Talking Carne Asada when you're 2,000 miles away...and baseball while we still have snow on the ground in Iowa is just mean ;)

Good luck with your SCIAC baseball journey, we have another team we can follow now outside of the IIAC!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 11, 2015, 07:36:23 PM
Quote from: doolittledog on March 11, 2015, 06:53:53 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 11, 2015, 03:51:08 PM

I throw down a mean Carne Asada BBQ (ask my IIAC football friends), and with a newly installed artificial surface putting green and bocce ball court, plus the new fire pit and hot tub....playoffs only get in the way anyway.

8-)

Talking Carne Asada when you're 2,000 miles away...and baseball while we still have snow on the ground in Iowa is just mean ;)

Good luck with your SCIAC baseball journey, we have another team we can follow now outside of the IIAC!

What'd I say?  My man Double-D backs me up!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 11, 2015, 07:48:59 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 09, 2015, 03:30:20 PM
So far it looks like Cal Lu and Pomona is fighting it out for the 1 spot

Middle of La Verne., Occidental, Redlands and Chapman

The bottom of Whittier, CMS, and Cal Tech.

My prediction is Cal Lu will be the Pool A bid team from the SCIAC

Pomona/La Verne will fight for a Pool C bids

Rest of the SCIAC will be at home at the BBQ during May.

http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/index

Not sold on La Verne...I thought Redlands was better.  Poets let 2 wins slip against the Leopards...that says more about the Poets than it did about Shirley's friend.  It would not surprise me to see PP sweep them - easily.

La Verne has had the favor of the SCIAC schedule...9 of their wins are against the bottom 3.  Yes, they got the job done - to their credit.  But they did not dominate the Whittier series - at least in my perception.  Pomona had the upper hand in all three games in our series.

I am not seeing the Leopards as true contenders for a Pool C...there may end up being too much cross beatings between the 3rd-4th-5th-6th teams that only the 2nd place SCIAC gets the Pool C.  All that gets thrown out IF our 1 Seed does not win the year end tourney AND a team other than the 2 seed wins it.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 11, 2015, 07:50:57 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 11, 2015, 07:48:59 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 09, 2015, 03:30:20 PM
So far it looks like Cal Lu and Pomona is fighting it out for the 1 spot

Middle of La Verne., Occidental, Redlands and Chapman

The bottom of Whittier, CMS, and Cal Tech.

My prediction is Cal Lu will be the Pool A bid team from the SCIAC

Pomona/La Verne will fight for a Pool C bids

Rest of the SCIAC will be at home at the BBQ during May.

http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/index

Not sold on La Verne...I thought Redlands was better.  Poets let 2 wins slip against the Leopards...that says more about the Poets than it did about Shirley's friend.  It would not surprise me to see PP sweep them - easily.

La Verne has had the favor of the SCIAC schedule...9 of their wins are against the bottom 3.  Yes, they got the job done - to their credit.  But they did not dominate the Whittier series - at least in my perception.  Pomona had the upper hand in all three games in our series.

I am not seeing the Leopards as true contenders for a Pool C...there may end up being too much cross beatings between the 3rd-4th-5th-6th teams that only the 2nd place SCIAC gets the Pool C.  All that gets thrown out IF our 1 Seed does not win the year end tourney AND a team other than the 2 seed wins it.


Playoffs? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7fjDS0jKiE)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purplebaseball on March 11, 2015, 09:21:39 PM
I agree PH... I would rate the SCAIC teams Whittier has played so far as 1)PP 2)Redlands 3) La Verne.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 12, 2015, 12:54:13 PM
Only a couple of SCAIC teams facing each other this weekend but plenty of games all around.

Pomona vs LaVerne- I will go with Pomona taking 2/3 but I could see them sweeping.  Looks like Bruml has really found it lately and as others have said, I am not sold on LaVerne.  They have played some very tight games, but good teams win the close ones.  Should be a good series.

Chapman vs Claremont-  Chapman wins all 3 but who knows, after Caltech getting an 8-0 lead on them last week, maybe Claremont can steal one from them.

Non-Conference:
CLU plays Concordia (WI), Wesleyan (CT), Linfield and Southwestern (TX) with all games being played in AZ.
Redlands has Rutgers-Newark (2), Ithaca, Spalding and Kean.  Good test on their pitching!
Chapman has Spalding and Kean after the 3 games with Claremont.
Oxy has Ithaca, Spalding and Rutgers-Newark (2).  That's 5 games in 4 days for Oxy, another huge test on pitching.
Pomona has Spalding on Monday after the 3 games with LaVerne.
Whittier has Kean twice this weekend.
Caltech has a double-header with Drew today.
No OOC games for Claremont or LaVerne this weekend.

I am not even going to attempt picking these games as I know nothing about the teams everyone is playing.  Should be a fun, baseball filled weekend!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purplebaseball on March 12, 2015, 01:15:45 PM
I that Kean is ranked 5th or 6th in the country so it could be another long weekend for Whittier.  :-[
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on March 12, 2015, 01:21:41 PM
After Drew's tough start to their So Cal trip (including a beat up from Whittier), they were able to pull one out against Oxy winning 3-1. Not a good showing for Occidental offensively- Drew had given up 44 runs in their first three games.

Ithaca dropped another one, losing 7-1 to Chapman. I know this is the very beginning of their season, but I'm really surprised to see them 0-4 right now. They always have a good team, and though they tend to struggle on the Spring Break trips (having played 15 fewer games than their opponents), they usually put up a better fight than this. Might be a down year for them. Maybe they can pull one out against Oxy today, though their pitching has got to be drained at this point.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 12, 2015, 02:54:14 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on March 12, 2015, 01:21:41 PM
After Drew's tough start to their So Cal trip (including a beat up from Whittier), they were able to pull one out against Oxy winning 3-1. Not a good showing for Occidental offensively- Drew had given up 44 runs in their first three games.

Ithaca dropped another one, losing 7-1 to Chapman. I know this is the very beginning of their season, but I'm really surprised to see them 0-4 right now. They always have a good team, and though they tend to struggle on the Spring Break trips (having played 15 fewer games than their opponents), they usually put up a better fight than this. Might be a down year for them. Maybe they can pull one out against Oxy today, though their pitching has got to be drained at this point.

I don't really read into the games against teams from the East but it does say a lot about Oxy and their lack of offense.  Good win for Chapman and a great win for CMS against Ithaca.  Hopefully Caltech can take one from Drew today as they have to be a little thin on pitching after already playing 4 this week.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 12, 2015, 06:17:50 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 12, 2015, 02:54:14 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on March 12, 2015, 01:21:41 PM
After Drew's tough start to their So Cal trip (including a beat up from Whittier), they were able to pull one out against Oxy winning 3-1. Not a good showing for Occidental offensively- Drew had given up 44 runs in their first three games.

Ithaca dropped another one, losing 7-1 to Chapman. I know this is the very beginning of their season, but I'm really surprised to see them 0-4 right now. They always have a good team, and though they tend to struggle on the Spring Break trips (having played 15 fewer games than their opponents), they usually put up a better fight than this. Might be a down year for them. Maybe they can pull one out against Oxy today, though their pitching has got to be drained at this point.

I don't really read into the games against teams from the East but it does say a lot about Oxy and their lack of offense.  Good win for Chapman and a great win for CMS against Ithaca.  Hopefully Caltech can take one from Drew today as they have to be a little thin on pitching after already playing 4 this week.

Congrats to Caltech for beating Drew in Game 1 today.  11-10!    Good luck on going for the sweep!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 13, 2015, 12:57:07 AM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 12, 2015, 06:17:50 PM

Congrats to Caltech for beating Drew in Game 1 today.  11-10!    Good luck on going for the sweep!

Man bites dog:  Cal Tech Sweeps Drew.

Nicely done fellas.   :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 13, 2015, 09:36:19 AM
Awesome job by Caltech getting the sweep in a double-header against Drew!

Oxy drops a close one in extra's against Ithaca.  Been a rough weekend already for Oxy.

Cal Lu squeaks by Concordia (WI) down in AZ.

Plenty of games left this weekend!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 13, 2015, 11:50:57 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 13, 2015, 09:36:19 AM
Awesome job by Caltech getting the sweep in a double-header against Drew!

Oxy drops a close one in extra's against Ithaca.  Been a rough weekend already for Oxy.

Cal Lu squeaks by Concordia (WI) down in AZ.

Plenty of games left this weekend!
Caltech has 4 non-conf games this month against Providence Christian and MIT before the ending the month with CMS.
With their sweep against Drew, this month may be shape up to be one of Caltech's most successful months in recent history!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 13, 2015, 01:33:44 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 13, 2015, 11:50:57 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 13, 2015, 09:36:19 AM
Awesome job by Caltech getting the sweep in a double-header against Drew!

Oxy drops a close one in extra's against Ithaca.  Been a rough weekend already for Oxy.

Cal Lu squeaks by Concordia (WI) down in AZ.

Plenty of games left this weekend!
Caltech has 4 non-conf games this month against Providence Christian and MIT before the ending the month with CMS.
With their sweep against Drew, this month may be shape up to be one of Caltech's most successful months in recent history!
I can think of a half dozen conferences in which Cal Tech would be a middle-of- the-conference contender for conference tourney action.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 15, 2015, 01:05:49 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 13, 2015, 12:57:07 AM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 12, 2015, 06:17:50 PM

Congrats to Caltech for beating Drew in Game 1 today.  11-10!    Good luck on going for the sweep!

Man bites dog:  Cal Tech Sweeps Drew.  La Verne takes 2 of 3 from PP

Nicely done fellas.   :)

Fixed it for me...did not see that happening.  I still can't say I'm buying on the Leopards as legit, but they just made a statement that they don't care what I think!

This just got interesting.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 15, 2015, 01:20:42 PM
Having watched the Poets drop 2 to Kean, it is clear that Kean is a very good squad.  Well coached, solid across the board...but #6 in the country...if that is my frame of reference, then I guess I expected them to be a lot better.  I felt that the any that any of the Texas teams we faced were better, and PP (until they got dumped by La Verne) not being ranked - considering Kean's ranking - was an oversight.

Kean and Bates were very similar in teams of athleticism, defense and offense, maybe Kean might have an edge in pitching...but I wasn't impressed to the extent that I was looking at a top 10 team.

The Poets have little pitching depth.  Whittier went toe to toe in game 2 and once our starter ran out of gas, the flood gate opened - again.  Nothing that we have not seen.  PP and Trinity were the only teams that I felt we could not beat - I did not get that sense watching Kean.  Maybe it's early for them and they'll pick it up a notch.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 15, 2015, 01:30:08 PM
The Poets' schedule has been fairly tough (I am curious how our SoS stacks up) and as the pitching has taken a beating, we have had infield fielding struggles, and we aren't hitting.  These are 2 things that could help cover for a thin pitching staff but are not helping.  I think the coaching staff is in a quandary to select offensive capability vs. defensive prowess.  We have guys that aren't hitting but are better with the glove; and others that are struggling on defense but show promise at the plate.  The lineup changes every game as the coaches search for a group they can trust.  They are clearly frustrated.

On the bright side, we've been getting stellar play in the outfield.  Good range and good arms, scores could have been a lot worse as there have been quite a few extra base hits taken away by this crew; plus yet another outfield assist registered at the plate yesterday that kept the game close - for the moment.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on March 15, 2015, 07:26:34 PM
Tough weekend for Pomona-Pitzer against ULV. They turned a 3-1 lead in the 6th to a 11-3 deficit in half a frame in game 1. ULV was on top all of game 2, and added a 5 run 8th to put it out of reach. Then PP's bats finally decided to show up for game 3 and won 17-3.

ULV hadn't been too impressive before this weekend, but I think this shows that the PP-ULV-UoR battle for the 2-4 spots in conference will be a good one. And there's certainly room for Chapman and Oxy to jump in and play spoiler.

Couple quick notes on the Hens at about the halfway point of the season:
-All nine starters now have home runs (and don't blame the right field fence- there are no left handed hitters in the PP lineup, which is crazy at that park).
-Bruml, who gave up 12 runs in 8.2 IP in his first two starts (both no decisions), is 4-0 with a 1.55 ERA in his last four starts.
-The offense is hitting .331 and averaging about 8.5 runs per game despite Rosenbaum returning to normal person levels of offensive productivity (a solid .274/.418/.571 with 5 HRs)
-Sam Fox has an absurd .463/.532/.720 slash line and 4 HRs (4 more than he had his entire three years as a starter before this). He's always been very talented but never quite performed offensively up to expectations- his .720 Slugging Percentage is up from .346 last year, .272 in 2013, and .303 in 2012. This is on pace to be the first year he slugs better than his OBP.
-The team's fielding percentage is at a very good .974 mark which is up from an uncharacteristically low .949 last year. Moving Tanner Nishioka to CF permanently and getting improved play everywhere else has helped a lot.
-David Gerics has been providing very solid end of game relief (often a couple innings), but got scorched on Saturday. He has four saves.
-Meanwhile, Rosenbaum has only thrown three innings since returning from TJ surgery and they've been pretty rough (24.00 ERA). Yen's return from injury has been going pretty well, as he's settled down for a 0.66 ERA in his last three appearances (1-1) and a 3-1 record overall. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 16, 2015, 12:17:26 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 12, 2015, 12:54:13 PM
Only a couple of SCAIC teams facing each other this weekend but plenty of games all around.

Pomona vs LaVerne- I will go with Pomona taking 2/3 but I could see them sweeping.  Looks like Bruml has really found it lately and as others have said, I am not sold on LaVerne.  They have played some very tight games, but good teams win the close ones.  Should be a good series.

Chapman vs Claremont-  Chapman wins all 3 but who knows, after Caltech getting an 8-0 lead on them last week, maybe Claremont can steal one from them.

Non-Conference:
CLU plays Concordia (WI), Wesleyan (CT), Linfield and Southwestern (TX) with all games being played in AZ.
Redlands has Rutgers-Newark (2), Ithaca, Spalding and Kean.  Good test on their pitching!
Chapman has Spalding and Kean after the 3 games with Claremont.
Oxy has Ithaca, Spalding and Rutgers-Newark (2).  That's 5 games in 4 days for Oxy, another huge test on pitching.
Pomona has Spalding on Monday after the 3 games with LaVerne.
Whittier has Kean twice this weekend.
Caltech has a double-header with Drew today.
No OOC games for Claremont or LaVerne this weekend.

I am not even going to attempt picking these games as I know nothing about the teams everyone is playing.  Should be a fun, baseball filled weekend!

I am very surprised to see La Verne beat Pomona the way they did.  It could have been "one of those weekends" or maybe La Verne played like the team they could have been all year.  Bruml threw another great game on Saturday but that  series loss was pretty ugly for the Hens.

Chapman swept Claremont like I figured they would, but games 1 and 2 were very close games.  Looks like Claremont had their chance to snap their SCIAC losing streak but no dice.  Big series with Caltech coming up next weekend!

As far as the others and their non-conference games....some good, some bad and some really ugly.

CLU goes 1-3 in AZ.  They squeak by Concordia (WI), lose to Weleyan, lose to Linfield in extras after being up 4-0 in the 8th, and get absolutely blasted by Southwestern.  No clue what happened but that is not a good sign for them.

Redlands goes 3-1 with Kean on tap for today.  Looks like Redlands can really hit but their pitching seems to give up a lot of hits and their Defense looks really shaky.  Big series coming up between them and CLU.

Chapman played Spalding yesterday and lost an absolute slugfest.  Tough to play another game after a 3-game conference series.

Oxy has really hit a rough patch in the last 10 days.  They went 2-3 over the weekend and have Whittier this weekend which could be good for them, or it could hurt them more.

Whittier dropped 2 to Kean and it sounds like they were never blown out in either game.

Without a doubt the biggest news of the week is Caltech sweeping Drew.  It was a tough trip for Drew as they only got 1 win (Oxy) but it is really great to see the Beavers win a pair.  First time they have won back-to-back games since 2000.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on March 17, 2015, 01:04:27 PM
Monday's Results:
PP over Spalding 11-4. Peyton Holm (Frosh) gets the W for the Hens. Rosenbaum gets a solid inning on the mound, PP bats stay hot (particularly Fox and Nishioka).

Redlands over Kean 13-3, Sean McMillan 2-4 4RBI's, solid pitching performances from Collins, White, and Stead.

Today's matchups:
CLU v. Rutgers-Newark
Chapman v. Kean
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on March 18, 2015, 01:58:09 PM
Chapman beats Kean 7-6. Always a nice thing to read especially when its a come from behind thriller I missed the game but its particularly fun to beat them in front of their usually chippy fan base. I was happy to see Laverty is not holding back his aces for just the conferences games. Perhaps due to last years poor record against non-conference teams which was a factor in CU not getting a playoff bid despite a 28-12 D-3 record. I hope Kean wins every game after this and its SOS is a top 10 by years end. CU will need it because of the records of the SCIAC's 3 bottom teams, a problem the others hoping for a "C" at large bid  will have too.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 18, 2015, 03:05:58 PM
Quote from: Colorado on March 18, 2015, 01:58:09 PM
Chapman beats Kean 7-6. Always a nice thing to read especially when its a come from behind thriller I missed the game but its particularly fun to beat them in front of their usually chippy fan base. I was happy to see Laverty is not holding back his aces for just the conferences games. Perhaps due to last years poor record against non-conference teams which was a factor in CU not getting a playoff bid despite a 28-12 D-3 record. I hope Kean wins every game after this and its SOS is a top 10 by years end. CU will need it because of the records of the SCIAC's 3 bottom teams, a problem the others hoping for a "C" at large bid  will have too.
Love when Chapman beats Kean. I personally watched they lose to Chapman in Appleton in 2009. Saw many Chapman - Kean games a true rivalary with passion and intensity. Also I have seen a few Kean loses at Chapman at Hart Park in Orange, CA
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 18, 2015, 03:44:18 PM
Quote from: Colorado on March 18, 2015, 01:58:09 PM
Chapman beats Kean 7-6. Always a nice thing to read especially when its a come from behind thriller I missed the game but its particularly fun to beat them in front of their usually chippy fan base. I was happy to see Laverty is not holding back his aces for just the conferences games. Perhaps due to last years poor record against non-conference teams which was a factor in CU not getting a playoff bid despite a 28-12 D-3 record. I hope Kean wins every game after this and its SOS is a top 10 by years end. CU will need it because of the records of the SCIAC's 3 bottom teams, a problem the others hoping for a "C" at large bid  will have too.

I watched a little and you ar enot kidding about the fans being chippy.  Sounded like an intense group of fans. 

*Note to Chapman- if you are not going to offer commentary during a game, mute the thing so you don't have to listen to the people in the booth place their food order and talk about what sorority they are in.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on March 18, 2015, 07:16:32 PM
I just want to note that at the moment CIT is "ahead" of CMS in the SCIAC standings:
http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2014-15/standings (http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2014-15/standings)

Both teams are winless in conference, but CIT has played fewer games and has one more non-conference win than CMS.

Also didn't realize that Whittier is sitting at 3-16 overall right now... knew they were struggling but yikes. It would be nice to see them pull one out today against Rutgers-Newark.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 19, 2015, 02:56:31 AM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on March 18, 2015, 07:16:32 PM

Also didn't realize that Whittier is sitting at 3-16 overall right now... knew they were struggling but yikes. It would be nice to see them pull one out today against Rutgers-Newark.


Same MO against Rutgers-Newark, not enough hitting to support a good enough to win pitching day, and a couple of errors led to some extra runs that spells a 6-4 defeat.

The Poets batted .000 with 2 outs.  R-N batted .333.  Recalling the PP and La Verne series' the Poets could not get out of an inning and had a terrible time booking the third out time and again.

They have trouble finishing games because they have trouble finishing innings.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purplebaseball on March 19, 2015, 11:58:34 AM
Yes PH I agree with you about the game yesterday but the season as a whole has been a pitching issue.  I know the  hitting is struggling and the defense can be shaky at times but the relief pitching is letting us down.  The staff ERA is 7.5 allowing a average of 13 hits a game and having a .345 batting average against while giving up 14 bombs!
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 19, 2015, 02:56:31 AM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on March 18, 2015, 07:16:32 PM

Also didn't realize that Whittier is sitting at 3-16 overall right now... knew they were struggling but yikes. It would be nice to see them pull one out today against Rutgers-Newark.


Same MO against Rutgers-Newark, not enough hitting to support a good enough to win pitching day, and a couple of errors led to some extra runs that spells a 6-4 defeat.

The Poets batted .000 with 2 outs.  R-N batted .333.  Recalling the PP and La Verne series' the Poets could not get out of an inning and had a terrible time booking the third out time and again.

They have trouble finishing games because they have trouble finishing innings.
We could be hitting .300 with 10 hits a game and scoring 7 runs a game and still losing.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 19, 2015, 12:04:58 PM
SOS is will be bad for the SCIAC teams and a Pool C bid may be impossible to get. Too much weight on SOS in my opinon is given for Pool C bids. You have very little control if 3 teams records tanks.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 19, 2015, 05:51:09 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 19, 2015, 12:04:58 PM
SOS is will be bad for the SCIAC teams and a Pool C bid may be impossible to get. Too much weight on SOS in my opinon is given for Pool C bids. You have very little control if 3 teams records tanks.
I think that the committee looks a Records versus regionally ranked teams, espeically for the West. Since the guidelines allow counting all games versus D3, the key is getting to play good teams from the other regions, especially Midwest and Central Region teams who might come to Arizona.

The SOS's in the West Region tend to hover around .500, so a few games against out-of-region teams help.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 19, 2015, 05:55:37 PM
What happened in the Cal LU loss to Southwestern?

That does not look good. Southwestern does not strike me as an outstanding team.  Their losses to TLU and to UMHB bring them back to the pack in the ASC/SCAC part of the region.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 19, 2015, 06:32:33 PM
Two conference series this weekend:

Oxy vs WHittier:   I expect Oxy to sweep.  Whittier offense won't be strong enough to solve Oxy pitching.

CLU vs Redlands:  I expect CLU to win 2 or 3.   Friday's matchup of Peters (4-0m 1.53ERA) vs Minjarez (6-0, 2.74ERA) should be a good matchup.  I think Peters will win, with CLU offense being a tad better than Redlands.  I predict CLU will also win game 2.   Game 3 is a tossup.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 20, 2015, 02:33:47 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 19, 2015, 06:32:33 PM
Two conference series this weekend:

Oxy vs WHittier:   I expect Oxy to sweep.  Whittier offense won't be strong enough to solve Oxy pitching.

CLU vs Redlands:  I expect CLU to win 2 or 3.   Friday's matchup of Peters (4-0m 1.53ERA) vs Minjarez (6-0, 2.74ERA) should be a good matchup.  I think Peters will win, with CLU offense being a tad better than Redlands.  I predict CLU will also win game 2.   Game 3 is a tossup.

I am going to say Oxy wins 2 of 3 but Whittier finally puts together a solid weekend against an Oxy team that is very inconsistent. Oxy just doesn't seem to put it all together, but they have the ability to beat a good team.  I think their offense has been very streaky so far and DeRadd has cooled off a ton.  Kling has been so-so this year and overall they have dropped some games to some pretty bad teams.  We will see which Oxy squad shows up.

I will go with Cal Lu winning 2 of 3 as well.  Redlands has only won the 3rd game of the series once this year, but they haven't lost the Friday game either.  The Peters/Minjarez matchup should be a great one.  Redlands is coming off a solid 4-1 week where they beat 2 very average teams but put a whipping on Kean.  Cal Lu coming off a disaster of a trip to Arizona.  Losing the lead late against Linfield and then making 8 errors (seriously, 8??!!) while getting smoked by Southwestern.  Redland's can't afford to lose any more games in the SCIAC and Cal Lu could really help put a little more distance between them and 2nd place La Verne...or they could fall right back into the whole mess in the middle.  Should be fun. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 20, 2015, 08:36:07 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 19, 2015, 06:32:33 PM
Two conference series this weekend:

Oxy vs WHittier:   I expect Oxy to sweep.  Whittier offense won't be strong enough to solve Oxy pitching.

CLU vs Redlands:  I expect CLU to win 2 or 3.   Friday's matchup of Peters (4-0m 1.53ERA) vs Minjarez (6-0, 2.74ERA) should be a good matchup.  I think Peters will win, with CLU offense being a tad better than Redlands.  I predict CLU will also win game 2.   Game 3 is a tossup.

Nice 5-4 win for CLU in 10 innings.  Minjarez went 7 2/3 giving up 4 runs, but striking out 10.  Peters went 9 and gave up 4 runs, 3 earned.
CLU won on a bases load walk off walk by their #8 hitter. 

Christ Conci led Redlands with 3 of their 7 hits; while CLU had 12 hits, with Abushala, Cohan and DuBois each with 2. 

Let's hope the Saturday games are as well played.   Of note was that the only errors of the game were 2 by CLU infielders.  They have 3 starting infielders out with injury and it's reflected in the decline of their fielding %. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 21, 2015, 12:20:06 PM
Chapman has a run of 9-1 over the last 10 games and currently has the 3rd best overall winning % in SCIAC. Long shot to make the regionals in my opinion but it could get interesting with series still left with Pomona, Redlands, La Verne and Whittier.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on March 22, 2015, 04:58:47 PM
Impressive series victory for Redlands against CLU. Looks like a lot of parity at the top of the conference, as every SCIAC team has now dropped a series. There are already 6 SCIAC teams with 14 wins (shhh don't look at the other three teams).

That means there are going to be two very good teams who don't reach the conference tournament. I think it will be PP, Redlands, ULV, and CLU but as Crash pointed out, Chapman is playing very good ball right now. Even if they drop their final game against Fox today, taking 3 from a good NWC team is huge for the SCIAC and potential Pool C bids- especially given the conference losses to NWC teams earlier in the year. While Oxy has been the least impressive this year, they did take 2 of 3 from Chapman earlier this season so they definitely can't be counted out.

Shaping up for one of the most competitive SCIAC races in some time! Gotta love it.

http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2014-15/standings (http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2014-15/standings)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 22, 2015, 08:31:31 PM
SCIAC will only get a Pool A bid.
Going to be a fight for the TOP 4 for the SCIAC tourney.

3 teams with horrible records in the SCIAC will make sure a 2nd SCIAC team will not make it to the Regional Tournament. Last year Chapman with 30 wins did not make it.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 22, 2015, 09:34:23 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 22, 2015, 08:31:31 PM
SCIAC will only get a Pool A bid.
Going to be a fight for the TOP 4 for the SCIAC tourney.

3 teams with horrible records in the SCIAC will make sure a 2nd SCIAC team will not make it to the Regional Tournament. Last year Chapman with 30 wins did not make it.

I think it's still too early to think that the SCIAC would be shut-out of a Pool C bid, but the teams at the top have to keep winning in case they do not win the SCIAC Tournament.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 22, 2015, 11:35:21 PM
This weekend will be a make-or-break for a few teams.

Oxy gets into a very tough stretch in their schedule, starting with Pomona.  I have a hard time seeing Oxy win any of these games due to their offense.  They really have only beat 2 good teams (in my eyes) in Chapman and Redlands.  As I have said before, I don't look into the games against Eastern teams simply because they are coming out of the gym.  Losing to Drew, Newark and playing three 1-run games with Whittier doesn't make me a believer.  Pomona has been playing very well and I think that continues.

Chapman has been very hot lately and Redlands is coming off a huge series win against Cal Lu.  The biggest question is if Chapman's pitching can hold down the Redlands hitters?  Redlands have been lights-out on Friday's with Manjarez and this series should be an absolute battle.

Cal Lu can accept nothing less than a sweep this weekend against Whittier.  They have really struggled the past 2 weeks and need to get it corrected in a hurry.  As SoCalSoxFan mentioned earlier, the injuries have really hurt Cal Lu.  Again, make-of-break time for them.

HUGE series for Caltech and CMS.  Absolutely nothing against CMS but I would absolutely love to see Caltech take a game from them.

La Verne has Pacific who has had a rough year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 22, 2015, 11:36:45 PM
Boy, that was tough to see...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 22, 2015, 11:39:47 PM
Whittier legitimately should could have swept that series...  (fixed it in fairness to Oxy, who legitimately swept the series)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 22, 2015, 11:47:37 PM
So that is the difference between 1st place and 1 step out of the cellar?  I'm not buying Oxy either, but hats off to them.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purplebaseball on March 23, 2015, 01:23:54 AM
I agree PH....Oxy did not impress..Whittier should have won 3 this weekend.  Oxy offense except for Devon DeRaad who has ++ power did not impress.. We will see oxy does with this tough stretch of their schedule.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 23, 2015, 11:08:28 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 22, 2015, 11:39:47 PM
Whittier legitimately should have swept that series...

That they did not, and Oxy won all 3, explains much of Whittier's season to date.  They had their chances to be a marginally .500 team this season.  It's tough to watch your team go through it, but at the same time, I hope it builds resolve to work harder now and moving forward.  Their are two teams out there that can still have their season spoiled and that sorta makes these playoffs.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 25, 2015, 12:10:04 PM
My CLU picks last week were off for game 2.  I honestly didn't expect they would get shut down in game 2; but knew game 3 would be a toss-up.

Series this week:

Whittier at CLU:    I expect CLU will bounce back and sweep Whittier.  They need to get better pitching from their 3rd starter.  If they get back any of their 3 starters, then I expect their lineup will bounce back and be as consistent as it was earlier in the year.    They do have 4 hitters in top 11 of SCIAC (including Crowl at .476), but were shutout 2x in their 5 games last week (counting Sun in AZ). 
All this as a preamble to predict CLU 3-0.

Redlands at Chapman:  Hopefully Smith goes Friday against Minjarez... that will be as good a matchup as Minjarez vs Scott Peters last Friday.
As an aside, looking at the SCIAC stats I was surprised to see Redlands with 3 of the top batters in top 10.  Their team average has raised to very healthy .357
I think Minjarez will win at home Friday and then they split on Sat.   Redlands 2-1. 


PP at Oxy:  Oxy's #2 and #3 are having pretty good years; both only 1 loss and ERA's in the 2.9-3.5 range.  But, their #1 Kling, isn't matching their performance.  None of PP's starting pitchers have stats that can match the Oxy stats (although Miles was doing pretty decent until the LV game). 
With PP they'll win based on their offense, not pitching.     I think PP takes game 1 at home on Friday and split on Sat.  PP 2-1.
But, I reserve the right to change my mind and switch to Oxy 2-1, because Oxy just seems to keep finding a way to win.


CMS at Caltech:   I'm predicting CMS wins the series 2-1.  Hopefully CalTech beats MIT on Thurs in the meeting of the minds.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 25, 2015, 01:29:32 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 25, 2015, 12:10:04 PM
  Hopefully CalTech beats MIT on Thurs in the meeting of the minds.

Not likely as MIT beat Chapman 8-2 last night.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 25, 2015, 04:05:27 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 25, 2015, 01:29:32 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 25, 2015, 12:10:04 PM
  Hopefully CalTech beats MIT on Thurs in the meeting of the minds.

Not likely as MIT beat Chapman 8-2 last night.

Exactly.  MIT athletics are pretty darn good all around.  Not saying it cannot happen, just don't think it will.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 27, 2015, 12:02:34 AM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 25, 2015, 12:10:04 PM
My CLU picks last week were off for game 2.  I honestly didn't expect they would get shut down in game 2; but knew game 3 would be a toss-up.

Series this week:

Whittier at CLU:    I expect CLU will bounce back and sweep Whittier.  They need to get better pitching from their 3rd starter.  If they get back any of their 3 starters, then I expect their lineup will bounce back and be as consistent as it was earlier in the year.    They do have 4 hitters in top 11 of SCIAC (including Crowl at .476), but were shutout 2x in their 5 games last week (counting Sun in AZ). 
All this as a preamble to predict CLU 3-0.

Redlands at Chapman:  Hopefully Smith goes Friday against Minjarez... that will be as good a matchup as Minjarez vs Scott Peters last Friday.
As an aside, looking at the SCIAC stats I was surprised to see Redlands with 3 of the top batters in top 10.  Their team average has raised to very healthy .357
I think Minjarez will win at home Friday and then they split on Sat.   Redlands 2-1. 


PP at Oxy:  Oxy's #2 and #3 are having pretty good years; both only 1 loss and ERA's in the 2.9-3.5 range.  But, their #1 Kling, isn't matching their performance.  None of PP's starting pitchers have stats that can match the Oxy stats (although Miles was doing pretty decent until the LV game). 
With PP they'll win based on their offense, not pitching.     I think PP takes game 1 at home on Friday and split on Sat.  PP 2-1.
But, I reserve the right to change my mind and switch to Oxy 2-1, because Oxy just seems to keep finding a way to win.


CMS at Caltech:   I'm predicting CMS wins the series 2-1.  Hopefully CalTech beats MIT on Thurs in the meeting of the minds.

I will keep this short...

Cal Lu wins 3 against Whittier.
Redlands takes 2 of 3 against Chapman.
Pomona sweeps Oxy.
CMS takes 2 of 3 from Caltech.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 27, 2015, 12:21:26 AM
Cal Lu sweep
Pomona sweep
CMS sweep
Chapman 2 of 3 Redlands

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purplebaseball on March 27, 2015, 10:07:12 PM
Well PH see what happens when Whittier puts a whole game together...Hitting, pitching and defense.  Whittier 9 CLU 5
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 28, 2015, 12:26:44 PM
Great win for Whittier yesterday.  Cal Lu better figure some things out or they are in serious trouble.

Chapman and Redlands was an absolute battle but I never expected Minjarez and Smith to get knocked around the way they did.  Redlands must sweep today.

Oxy booted the ball all over the place and Pomona got the timely hits.  Oxy needs to take both today of they could be in a little trouble with plenty of tough games remaining.

I had to do a double-take when I saw the La Verne score.  Still can't get a read on La Verne.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 28, 2015, 01:01:02 PM
Upset Friday. What's in store for Saturday in the wacky SCIAC. Anyone could finish in the top 4 for the SCIAC tournament spots except for the bottom 3.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 29, 2015, 02:02:14 AM
Quote from: Purplebaseball on March 27, 2015, 10:07:12 PM
Well PH see what happens when Whittier puts a whole game together...Hitting, pitching and defense.  Whittier 9 CLU 5

This is a big thing for the Poets...they aren't mailing it in for the season. They've made a choice to compete...that makes me a Proud Poet Poppa!  (Isn't alliteration fun?)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 29, 2015, 02:22:50 AM
Then more on Saturday, as the Poets take the first game and threaten sweep, but alas, it was not to be.  CLU had no intention of rolling over in game 3.

Whittier's record betrays would they could have been...when they play outside their mental hurdles, they aren't a bottom 3 team.  Maybe not in the Top 4, but a threat at least...had they been able to put together the level of play on display this CLU series vs. Oxy and ULV, this team could legitimately be 8-7 right now, and with some luck and one more arm, 9-6, add one more consistent bat then 10-5.

As for CLU, these are games they can't make up; with PP, Oxy, and ULV having swept the Poets.

All in all a good weekend.  Now we shall see if they build on (not sit back on) this weekend and put Chapman on the hot seat.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 29, 2015, 02:24:24 AM
That second game win over CLU kept CMS from overtaking Whittier, for now, in the win column.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 29, 2015, 02:09:57 PM
STANDINGS
La Verne   12-3   15-9
Pomona-Pitzer   11-4   19-7
Occidental   13-5   17-9
Cal Lutheran   10-5   18-8

Chapman   10-5   17-9
Redlands   10-8   17-9
Whittier   3-12   5-21
CMS   3-15   5-24
Caltech   0-15   2-22
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on March 30, 2015, 03:01:29 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 29, 2015, 02:09:57 PM
STANDINGS
La Verne   12-3   15-9
Pomona-Pitzer   11-4   19-7
Occidental   13-5   17-9
Cal Lutheran   10-5   18-8

Chapman   10-5   17-9
Redlands   10-8   17-9
Whittier   3-12   5-21
CMS   3-15   5-24
Caltech   0-15   2-22

Tough to make much sense of the SCIAC right now...

In weekend series so far this year Whittier beat CLU who beat Chapman who beat Redlands who beat La Verne who beat Pomona who beat Oxy... who beat Whittier. We've come full circle! Surprising to see that many teams show the ability to win series against the "top" of the conference (it it still the top if there are 2/3 of the teams are in it?). It's clear from the last few weeks (and CLU's struggles) there are no outstanding teams and no front-runner. However, there are a LOT of good teams. I'm not sure I remember the conference ever being this deep. Gonna make the race for the top 4 incredibly interesting.

This weekend's matchups:
Redlands v. Cal Tech
La Verne v. Occidental
Pomona- Pitzer v. Cal Lutheran
Whittier v. Chapman

The ULV-Oxy series should be interesting as both teams have shown very different sides of themselves of the course of the season. I think ultimately the Leo bats prevail. ULV 2-1.

CIT took a step back with three pretty decisive losses against CMS after showing upset potential and grabbing a few wins in the last few weeks. Redlands has been up and down, but they should get an easy sweep. UR 3-0

PP has been playing pretty well and CLU has been struggling. But the back and forth history of these two teams should make for a great series. I don't think there's a single outcome that would surprise me, but I will send out a warning to all opposing pitchers- Rosenbaum is getting hot. PP 2-1.

Whittier took two last week from CLU, and I'm encouraged by the reports from PH and Pb. This team has the potential to spoil some seasons. Still, Chapman has been playing quality baseball of late and finding ways to win. CU 2-1
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purplebaseball on March 30, 2015, 05:08:01 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 29, 2015, 02:22:50 AM
Then more on Saturday, as the Poets take the first game and threaten sweep, but alas, it was not to be.  CLU had no intention of rolling over in game 3.

Whittier's record betrays would they could have been...when they play outside their mental hurdles, they aren't a bottom 3 team.  Maybe not in the Top 4, but a threat at least...had they been able to put together the level of play on display this CLU series vs. Oxy and ULV, this team could legitimately be 8-7 right now, and with some luck and one more arm, 9-6, add one more consistent bat then 10-5.

As for CLU, these are games they can't make up; with PP, Oxy, and ULV having swept the Poets.

All in all a good weekend.  Now we shall see if they build on (not sit back on) this weekend and put Chapman on the hot seat.
Well PH it looks the freshman bats of Macey, Mayfield and Lamar came through in the CLU series.  The freshmen  trio went 12-26 .461 with 7 RBI's.  If Whittier can get that kind of production out of the freshmen trio, Chapman might be in for a long weekend? ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on March 30, 2015, 05:16:39 PM
Chapman sweeps Whittier
Pomona 2-1 over Cal Lu
La Verne sweeps Occidental
Redlands sweeps Caltech

SCIAC top 4 for the SCIAC tournament is anybody;s guess. Only CMS, CalTech, Whittier are out.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 30, 2015, 09:03:03 PM
Quote from: Purplebaseball on March 30, 2015, 05:08:01 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 29, 2015, 02:22:50 AM
Then more on Saturday, as the Poets take the first game and threaten sweep, but alas, it was not to be.  CLU had no intention of rolling over in game 3.

Whittier's record betrays would they could have been...when they play outside their mental hurdles, they aren't a bottom 3 team.  Maybe not in the Top 4, but a threat at least...had they been able to put together the level of play on display this CLU series vs. Oxy and ULV, this team could legitimately be 8-7 right now, and with some luck and one more arm, 9-6, add one more consistent bat then 10-5.

As for CLU, these are games they can't make up; with PP, Oxy, and ULV having swept the Poets.

All in all a good weekend.  Now we shall see if they build on (not sit back on) this weekend and put Chapman on the hot seat.
Well PH it looks the freshman bats of Macey, Mayfield and Lamar came through in the CLU series.  The freshmen  trio went 12-26 .461 with 7 RBI's.  If Whittier can get that kind of production out of the freshmen trio, Chapman might be in for a long weekend? ;D

All that and more my friend, I think all classes shined!  Some stellar senior play as Ben (on the mound in Game 2), Stevie and Cody Sr. barreling up at the plate. But lest we not fail to mention Juniors Whip, Dylan, and Cody strong with the bat and glove and Nick's quality game 2 start, and Gram and Mikey representing for the sophs.  But truly, it's nice when the 1st year players have plate success...it's like playing with house money.

This was a team effort if I ever saw it and it was particularly gratifying given the heartbreak of last week.

Now my hope is that they are not satisfied with this.  They need to treat this like their playoffs and put another dent in somebody else's season.  It will be tougher, because they now have Chapman's attention.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 30, 2015, 09:07:53 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 30, 2015, 05:16:39 PM
Chapman sweeps Whittier

Umm...yeah...about that...    ::)

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 27, 2015, 12:21:26 AM
Cal Lu sweep
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on March 30, 2015, 09:10:10 PM
Love your gumption Purple Heys!!!  Go get 'em this weekend!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purplebaseball on March 30, 2015, 10:56:51 PM
Well said PH! ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 30, 2015, 11:13:24 PM
I noted that Adrian has defeated Olivet 39 straight times.  Does anyone know the SCIAC team with the longest win streak against CalTech?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 31, 2015, 12:12:35 AM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on March 30, 2015, 11:13:24 PM
I noted that Adrian has defeated Olivet 39 straight times.  Does anyone know the SCIAC team with the longest win streak against CalTech?

I would have to say Oxy since I believe they have been in the SCIAC the longest (I think).
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on March 31, 2015, 07:32:59 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 31, 2015, 12:12:35 AM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on March 30, 2015, 11:13:24 PM
I noted that Adrian has defeated Olivet 39 straight times.  Does anyone know the SCIAC team with the longest win streak against CalTech?

I would have to say Oxy since I believe they have been in the SCIAC the longest (I think).

So it's true that Oxy and Redlands are the only ones who have an uninterrupted membership from the beginning, but a brief SCIAC history:
-Oxy, CIT, Pomona, Redlands and Whittier are all founding members from way back in 1915 (100th anniversary?!?).
-ULV joined in 1926
-Both CIT and Pomona left for a few years in the 1930's
-Whittier left for a few years in the 1940's
-Pomona and Claremont were combined for about 10 years in the 40's and 50's etc.
-Claremont broke off and joined Mudd in 1958
-CLU joined in 1991
-Source: http://thesciac.org/information/about/index (http://thesciac.org/information/about/index) (and yeah, UCLA used to be a SCIAC school).

So it's a complex history and tough to estimate who would have the longest streak if it went back that far. However, from what I remember hearing CIT won some conference games in the 80's. I have no idea where the conference standings could be found from thirty years ago though :/

Chapman almost certainly does not have the longest streak, as they didn't play CIT for a number of years when they weren't in SCIAC (though they played everyone else) and CLU spent time in DII and hasn't been around that long.

The other six schools probably have win streaks that are reaching or have gone well beyond the triple digits if you figure 3 to 4 (and sometimes now 5 with round robin) matchups a year. I wish I knew more, but I would depending on how bad they were and how good other squads were in the 70's and 80's, I wouldn't be surprised if we were talking 150+ games.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Lets Play Two on March 31, 2015, 09:12:04 PM
I would agree that Oxy has the longest winning streak vs. Caltech.  The Beavers beat the Poets, 6-5 in 1988.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 01, 2015, 03:18:09 PM
Quote from: Lets Play Two on March 31, 2015, 09:12:04 PM
I would agree that Oxy has the longest winning streak vs. Caltech.  The Beavers beat the Poets, 6-5 in 1988.

I'm not sure I follow your logic. How does a Whittier loss in 1988 eliminate Redlands, PP, ULV, or Claremont from the mix? All four schools have also been in the SCIAC since at least 1958... and if Caltech was winning games in the 80's, I would be surprised if the longest winning streak was older than 1958. Anybody know if Caltech had the same reputation for losing in the 70's, 60's, 50's... etc.?

Also was that 1988 game definitely Caltech's last SCIAC win?

Regardless, it would be a really interesting question to figure out. Anyone know how it could be done? Talking to SIDs or SCIAC officials...?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 01, 2015, 03:39:13 PM
On a totally different note, just looked through the SCIAC standings and the various records through the last 10 games are...
6-4 (P-P, Oxy, Chapman, Redlands)
5-5 (La Verne)
4-6 (Cal Lu, CMS)
3-7 (Whittier)
2-8 (Cal Tech)

I'd venture to say this is probably the first time in decades that the difference between the top record and bottom record in the last 10 games was only four games.

http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2014-15/standings (http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2014-15/standings)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 01, 2015, 03:45:52 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 01, 2015, 03:18:09 PM
Quote from: Lets Play Two on March 31, 2015, 09:12:04 PM
I would agree that Oxy has the longest winning streak vs. Caltech.  The Beavers beat the Poets, 6-5 in 1988.

I'm not sure I follow your logic. How does a Whittier loss in 1988 eliminate Redlands, PP, ULV, or Claremont from the mix? All four schools have also been in the SCIAC since at least 1958... and if Caltech was winning games in the 80's, I would be surprised if the longest winning streak was older than 1958. Anybody know if Caltech had the same reputation for losing in the 70's, 60's, 50's... etc.?

Also was that 1988 game definitely Caltech's last SCIAC win?

Regardless, it would be a really interesting question to figure out. Anyone know how it could be done? Talking to SIDs or SCIAC officials...?

Here is a full list of Caltech's all-time schedule/results.  Looks like they beat Pomona in 1983.

http://static.psbin.com/l/j/68lj3wor6gylb2/Entire_Baseball_Results.pdf
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Westside on April 01, 2015, 05:48:46 PM
According to the site:

Caltech last beat CMS - 1980
Caltech last beat Oxy - 1973
Caltech last beat La Verna - 1960
Caltech last beat Redlands - 1958

I don't think I missed any earlier ones. So there you go!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 01, 2015, 11:27:24 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 01, 2015, 03:18:09 PM
Quote from: Lets Play Two on March 31, 2015, 09:12:04 PM
I would agree that Oxy has the longest winning streak vs. Caltech.  The Beavers beat the Poets, 6-5 in 1988.

I'm not sure I follow your logic. How does a Whittier loss in 1988 eliminate Redlands, PP, ULV, or Claremont from the mix? All four schools have also been in the SCIAC since at least 1958... and if Caltech was winning games in the 80's, I would be surprised if the longest winning streak was older than 1958. Anybody know if Caltech had the same reputation for losing in the 70's, 60's, 50's... etc.?

Also was that 1988 game definitely Caltech's last SCIAC win?

Regardless, it would be a really interesting question to figure out. Anyone know how it could be done? Talking to SIDs or SCIAC officials...?
you should find all the info you need here:
http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/careersearch
do a search on Caltech. All the old records have been scanned in by the NCAA.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 02, 2015, 01:37:37 PM
Here is a list forwarded to me:

Team:                   Last loss to CalTech (current win streak)
Chapman:            1954  (16)
Redlands:            1959  (159)
La Verne:             1960  (130)
Cal Lutheran:       1963  (79)
Occidental:           1973  (125)
Claremont-M-S:    1980  (97)
Pomona-Pitzer:    1983  (94)
Whittier:               1988  (74)

Obviously the sooner you joined the SCIAC the longer your streak.  NAIA Chapman did not schedule CalTech back in the day and now D-III SCIAC Chapman is getting in their wins.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on April 02, 2015, 02:01:15 PM
Jim,
I don't believe Chapman was ever NAIA. They were previously college division or D2.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 02, 2015, 02:31:45 PM
Quote from: dahlby on April 02, 2015, 02:01:15 PM
Jim,
I don't believe Chapman was ever NAIA. They were previously college division or D2.

They could have been D-II.  My knowledge of NAIA and D-II is pretty poor.  I made that assumption since there are quite a few NAIA teams in S. California.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 02, 2015, 03:16:45 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 02, 2015, 02:31:45 PM
Quote from: dahlby on April 02, 2015, 02:01:15 PM
Jim,
I don't believe Chapman was ever NAIA. They were previously college division or D2.

They could have been D-II.  My knowledge of NAIA and D-II is pretty poor.  I made that assumption since there are quite a few NAIA teams in S. California.
Chapman has won a D-II National Championship(1968) and D-III(2003). They never were NAIA although played many NAIA teams in CA over the years. At one time it also played games against a lot if D-I teams.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 02, 2015, 08:13:55 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 30, 2015, 05:16:39 PM
Chapman sweeps Whittier
Pomona 2-1 over Cal Lu
La Verne sweeps Occidental
Redlands sweeps Caltech

SCIAC top 4 for the SCIAC tournament is anybody;s guess. Only CMS, CalTech, Whittier are out.

Chapman sweeps
LV 2-1 over Oxy
Redlands sweeps

CLU 2-1 over PP.   Based on how CLU has been playing, I should predict PP to take 2 of 3;
but I pick CLU wins Friday with Peters over Miles (although 4 of his past 5 two outings have been quite good). 
and they split on Sat.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 03, 2015, 03:40:08 AM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on April 02, 2015, 08:13:55 PM

...I pick CLU wins Friday with Peters over Miles (although 4 of his past 5 two outings have been quite good).


Huh?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 03, 2015, 10:34:35 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 03, 2015, 03:40:08 AM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on April 02, 2015, 08:13:55 PM

...I pick CLU wins Friday with Peters over Miles (although 4 of his past 5 outings two have been quite good).


Huh?

That's what happens when you start writing at work, get interrupted, then go back and change part of the sentence. 

In Miles last 5 starts his ERA has been:  1.29, 1.29, 10.8, 1.5, 0.0   So, other than the LaVerne game, 4 of his past 5 outings have been quite god.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 03, 2015, 03:23:36 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on April 03, 2015, 10:34:35 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 03, 2015, 03:40:08 AM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on April 02, 2015, 08:13:55 PM

...I pick CLU wins Friday with Peters over Miles (although 4 of his past 5 outings two have been quite good).


Huh?

That's what happens when you start writing at work, get interrupted, then go back and change part of the sentence. 

In Miles last 5 starts his ERA has been:  1.29, 1.29, 10.8, 1.5, 0.0   So, other than the LaVerne game, 4 of his past 5 outings have been quite god[\b].

Come again?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 03, 2015, 04:39:34 PM
4 of 5 of those ERA's are God like.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on April 03, 2015, 05:18:16 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 03, 2015, 04:39:34 PM
4 of 5 of those ERA's are God like.

Now, don't get too carried away - only one of five was even Gibson-like! ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 04, 2015, 03:34:43 AM
I didn't make predictions this week but today went pretty much how I thought it would have, but I never expected Cal Lu to whip Pomona the way they did.  La Verne holds on against Oxy.  I think the biggest thing hurting Oxy right now is their defense.  They seem to get decent pitching and their offense is very average, but they boot the ball all over the place and it's really hurting them.  La Verne keeps winning and is setting themselves up nicely.  Chapman beat up on Whittier a little but one thing that stood out is Smith walking 7 guys.  Chapman's pitching drops off a little after Smith but they should win the series tomorrow. Redlands jumped on Caltech early and cruised.  No Minjarez for Redlnads which was probably by design.  No need to put more innings on him and let him rest the arm for a week.  That guy is going to be a pain for SCIAC teams for 3 more years.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 05, 2015, 12:54:01 PM
SCIAC race is heating up.  La Verne was very close to sweeping OXY but the pitcher dropped the ball on the mound with 2 outs and was 1 strike away from ending it.  OXY just doesn't quit and was able to take 1 of the 3.

Cal Lu scored 31 runs in the series against Pomona and took 2 of 3.  They had the lead late in game 2 of the series but Pomona got some timely hits to take a game.

Redlands did what they needed and just have to sit and wait to see what the rest of the SCIAC does as I sure don't see them losing any of the CMS games.

Chapman is playing very well right now and is all the way up to 2nd place. 

If I had to choose the 4 for the SCIAC tourney right now I would go with (in no order):

Chapman
Cal Lu
La Verne
Pomona.

Still plenty of games to be played, and the round-robin, so those teams could change in a hurry.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 06, 2015, 10:43:31 AM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on April 02, 2015, 08:13:55 PM
Chapman sweeps
LV 2-1 over Oxy
Redlands sweeps

CLU 2-1 over PP.   Based on how CLU has been playing, I should predict PP to take 2 of 3;
but I pick CLU wins Friday with Peters over Miles (although 4 of his past 5 outings have been quite good). 
and they split on Sat.

For what seems like the first time all year, I got all 4 series correct.

This upcoming weekend should have some good baseball, as 1st place LV faces 3rd place CLU and 2nd place Chapman faces 4th place PP.
My initial instinct is that CLU wins 2 of 3; as does Chapman.   But, I'll post final picks after reviewing this weekends pitching stats to see what the trends are. 
I'll also be picking Redlands to sweep CMS and Whittier to sweep Caltech.

If my picks stay the same:

LV 15-6
Chapman 15-6
CLU 14-7
Oxy 14-7
PP 13-8
Redlands 16-8
Whittier 6-15
CMS 3-18
Cal 0-21

which would setup a great final weekend before Round Robin with series between LV vs Chapman and CLU vs Oxy

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 08, 2015, 08:40:06 PM
I would say that Chapman was on the upswing (pun intended).  They really took it to the Poets in all 3 games.  I was not so impressed by their pitching as WC squared up quite a few that went right at the fielders with pace on the ball and little movement by the fielder to make the play.  Credit the Chapman defensive strategy for being in position, or the breaks of baseball, whatever.  WC did not get a good sniff at a win that series, and the Chapman hitters were aggressive.

The CLU team we saw did not look like a team to take 2 of 3 from PP, but they did and that makes this conference crazy...

I will probably be saying I don't believe in ULV right past the time they finish first and win the conference tourney - which I don't think they can do but just watch them do it now that I've written this.

The team I would've put money on (PP) to be in the top 4 is now in a position to not to make at all.

Crazy fun 1st year in the SCIAC for this fan.  I wish WC would have done better, but I still enjoyed the competition and meeting folks (like JP)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 08, 2015, 08:43:44 PM
What's the deal with this?

SCIAC Round Robin Pool Play
Wed., April 22         Sat., April 25         Sun., April 26         Tues., April 28
1st @ 8th              9th @ 4th             5th @ 1st             5th @ 9th
2nd @ 9th              2nd @ 4th             9th @ 1st              6th @ 7th
3rd @ 7th              7th @ 5th             6th @ 2nd             4th @ 8th
                                 3rd @ 5th         7th @ 2nd     
                                  8th @ 6th         4th @ 3rd
                                1st @ 6th            8th @ 3rd
                            
                   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 09, 2015, 10:34:41 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 08, 2015, 08:43:44 PM
What's the deal with this?

SCIAC Round Robin Pool Play
Wed., April 22         Sat., April 25         Sun., April 26         Tues., April 28
1st @ 8th              9th @ 4th             5th @ 1st             5th @ 9th
2nd @ 9th              2nd @ 4th             9th @ 1st              6th @ 7th
3rd @ 7th              7th @ 5th             6th @ 2nd             4th @ 8th
                                 3rd @ 5th         7th @ 2nd     
                                  8th @ 6th         4th @ 3rd
                                1st @ 6th            8th @ 3rd
                            
              

My understanding, as told to me when my son was a sophomore:
- SCIAC used to be an 8 team conference, 4 games against the other 7 schools = 28 conf games
- when SCIAC became a 9 team conference, in order to continue scheduling 28 conference games,
the schedule became:
- 3 games against the other 8 teams (=24)
- 4 game round robin based on results of first 24 games

The #'s above represent the position of team in Conf play after 24 games are complete.
Currently:  LV = 1; Chapman = 2; CLU = 3, etc..
As it stands today:
22nd: LV vs CMS/Whittier (not sure tie-breaker, as they haven't played each other yet)
25th: LV at Redlands (your columns aren't quite matched up to SCIAC format)
26th:  Oxy at LV; Cal Tech at LV

etc...

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 09, 2015, 09:25:02 PM
Makes sense.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 09, 2015, 09:38:36 PM
I think it would be fun for a full blown conference tourney  (though it would make the regular season less meaningful and it would mangle chances for NCAA postseason longevity)

Round 1
Play In Round - one game
8 v 9

Round 2
Semi-Super Regionals - best 2 of 3 lower seed is home/host team
1 v winner 8-9
2 v 7
3 v 6
4 v 5

Round 3
Championship Double Elimination - re-seed based on outcome above
G1: 1 v 4
G2: 2 v 3
G3: WG1 v WG2
G4: LG1 v LG2
G5: LG3 v WG4
G6: WG3 v WG5; WG3 is Tourney Champ if winner
G7: (If necessary - WG5 wins G6)  Winner is Tourney Champ


That it makes the whole season come down to the best of three is not great - but that would get some juices flowing wouldn't it?  It does give 5-9 a chance to get hot one weekend and sneak into the 3rd round as opposed to getting it done in the 1st 24 games.  Good points/bad points.  If I'm a 1 or 2 seed would I really be at that much risk?  3 and 4 might need to watch out though.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 09, 2015, 10:40:59 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 09, 2015, 09:38:36 PM
I think it would be fun for a full blown conference tourney  (though it would make the regular less meaningful and it would mangle chances for NCAA postseason longevity)

Round 1
Play In Round - one game
8 v 9

Round 2
Semi-Super Regionals - best 2 of 3 lower seed is home/host team
1 v winner 8-9
2 v 7
3 v 6
4 v 5

Round 3
Championship Double Elimination - re-seed based on outcome above
G1: 1 v 4
G2: 2 v 3
G3: WG1 v WG2
G4: LG1 v LG2
G5: LG3 v WG4
G6: WG3 v WG5; WG3 is Tourney Champ if winner
G7: (If necessary - WG5 wins G6)  Winner is Tourney Champ


That it makes the whole season come down to the best of three is not great - but that would get some juices flowing wouldn't it?  It does give 5-9 a chance to get hot one weekend and sneak into the 3rd round as opposed to getting it done in the 1st 24 games.  Good points/bad points.  If I'm a 1 or 2 seed would I really be at that much risk?  3 and 4 might need to watch out though.


I like it ......then only conference tourney winners move on to regionals. MAY MADNESS for D3. DONE on the field and not in committee for Pool C bids
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 10, 2015, 09:59:49 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 09, 2015, 10:40:59 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 09, 2015, 09:38:36 PM
I think it would be fun for a full blown conference tourney  (though it would make the regular less meaningful and it would mangle chances for NCAA postseason longevity)

Round 1
Play In Round - one game
8 v 9

Round 2
Semi-Super Regionals - best 2 of 3 lower seed is home/host team
1 v winner 8-9
2 v 7
3 v 6
4 v 5

Round 3
Championship Double Elimination - re-seed based on outcome above
G1: 1 v 4
G2: 2 v 3
G3: WG1 v WG2
G4: LG1 v LG2
G5: LG3 v WG4
G6: WG3 v WG5; WG3 is Tourney Champ if winner
G7: (If necessary - WG5 wins G6)  Winner is Tourney Champ


That it makes the whole season come down to the best of three is not great - but that would get some juices flowing wouldn't it?  It does give 5-9 a chance to get hot one weekend and sneak into the 3rd round as opposed to getting it done in the 1st 24 games.  Good points/bad points.  If I'm a 1 or 2 seed would I really be at that much risk?  3 and 4 might need to watch out though.


I like it ......then only conference tourney winners move on to regionals. MAY MADNESS for D3. DONE on the field and not in committee for Pool C bids
How many weeks do you see this taking. It would be hard for Northern teams to get enough conference games in to get an accurate seeding. I like the idea, but a lot would still need to be worked out. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 10, 2015, 06:32:58 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on April 10, 2015, 09:59:49 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 09, 2015, 10:40:59 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 09, 2015, 09:38:36 PM
I think it would be fun for a full blown conference tourney  (though it would make the regular less meaningful and it would mangle chances for NCAA postseason longevity)

Round 1
Play In Round - one game
8 v 9

Round 2
Semi-Super Regionals - best 2 of 3 lower seed is home/host team
1 v winner 8-9
2 v 7
3 v 6
4 v 5

Round 3
Championship Double Elimination - re-seed based on outcome above
G1: 1 v 4
G2: 2 v 3
G3: WG1 v WG2
G4: LG1 v LG2
G5: LG3 v WG4
G6: WG3 v WG5; WG3 is Tourney Champ if winner
G7: (If necessary - WG5 wins G6)  Winner is Tourney Champ


That it makes the whole season come down to the best of three is not great - but that would get some juices flowing wouldn't it?  It does give 5-9 a chance to get hot one weekend and sneak into the 3rd round as opposed to getting it done in the 1st 24 games.  Good points/bad points.  If I'm a 1 or 2 seed would I really be at that much risk?  3 and 4 might need to watch out though.


I like it ......then only conference tourney winners move on to regionals. MAY MADNESS for D3. DONE on the field and not in committee for Pool C bids
How many weeks do you see this taking. It would be hard for Northern teams to get enough conference games in to get an accurate seeding. I like the idea, but a lot would still need to be worked out.

I have given this no thought, other than to be reasonable on pitching arms...I had my little leaguers on on Inning/Pitch count limits years before they formally did it.  I don't think college kids should have their arms fall off either.
Week 1:  Round 1 and 2
Week 2:  Round 3
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 10, 2015, 06:39:19 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 09, 2015, 09:38:36 PM
I think it would be fun for a full blown conference tourney  (though it would make the regular season less meaningful and it would mangle chances for NCAA postseason longevity)

Round 1
Play In Round - one game
8 v 9

Round 2
Semi-Super Regionals - best 2 of 3 lowest seed is home/host team
1 v winner 8-9
2 v 7
3 v 6
4 v 5

Round 3
Championship Double Elimination - re-seed based on outcome above
G1: 1 v 4
G2: 2 v 3
G3: WG1 v WG2
G4: LG1 v LG2
G5: LG3 v WG4
G6: WG3 v WG5; WG3 is Tourney Champ if winner
G7: (If necessary - WG5 wins G6)  Winner is Tourney Champ


That it makes the whole season come down to the best of three is not great - but that would get some juices flowing wouldn't it?  It does give 5-9 a chance to get hot one weekend and sneak into the 3rd round as opposed to getting it done in the 1st 24 games.  Good points/bad points.  If I'm a 1 or 2 seed would I really be at that much risk?  3 and 4 might need to watch out though.

If a conference has more teams then you add more Round 1 Play-ins...e.g. 7 plays 10.  In Round 2 the highest numeric seed plays 1 seed, next highest numeric plays 2 seed...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 10, 2015, 06:44:50 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 09, 2015, 10:40:59 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 09, 2015, 09:38:36 PM
I think it would be fun for a full blown conference tourney  (though it would make the regular less meaningful and it would mangle chances for NCAA postseason longevity)

Round 1
Play In Round - one game
8 v 9

Round 2
Semi-Super Regionals - best 2 of 3 lower seed is home/host team
1 v winner 8-9
2 v 7
3 v 6
4 v 5

Round 3
Championship Double Elimination - re-seed based on outcome above
G1: 1 v 4
G2: 2 v 3
G3: WG1 v WG2
G4: LG1 v LG2
G5: LG3 v WG4
G6: WG3 v WG5; WG3 is Tourney Champ if winner
G7: (If necessary - WG5 wins G6)  Winner is Tourney Champ


That it makes the whole season come down to the best of three is not great - but that would get some juices flowing wouldn't it?  It does give 5-9 a chance to get hot one weekend and sneak into the 3rd round as opposed to getting it done in the 1st 24 games.  Good points/bad points.  If I'm a 1 or 2 seed would I really be at that much risk?  3 and 4 might need to watch out though.


I like it ......then only conference tourney winners move on to regionals. MAY MADNESS for D3. DONE on the field and not in committee for Pool C bids
Do you understand that there are only about 32 Pool A (AQ) conferences in D-1 March Madness?  More than half of the field is "Pool C".
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 10, 2015, 07:24:39 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 10, 2015, 06:44:50 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 09, 2015, 10:40:59 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 09, 2015, 09:38:36 PM
I think it would be fun for a full blown conference tourney  (though it would make the regular less meaningful and it would mangle chances for NCAA postseason longevity)

Round 1
Play In Round - one game
8 v 9

Round 2
Semi-Super Regionals - best 2 of 3 lower seed is home/host team
1 v winner 8-9
2 v 7
3 v 6
4 v 5

Round 3
Championship Double Elimination - re-seed based on outcome above
G1: 1 v 4
G2: 2 v 3
G3: WG1 v WG2
G4: LG1 v LG2
G5: LG3 v WG4
G6: WG3 v WG5; WG3 is Tourney Champ if winner
G7: (If necessary - WG5 wins G6)  Winner is Tourney Champ


That it makes the whole season come down to the best of three is not great - but that would get some juices flowing wouldn't it?  It does give 5-9 a chance to get hot one weekend and sneak into the 3rd round as opposed to getting it done in the 1st 24 games.  Good points/bad points.  If I'm a 1 or 2 seed would I really be at that much risk?  3 and 4 might need to watch out though.


I like it ......then only conference tourney winners move on to regionals. MAY MADNESS for D3. DONE on the field and not in committee for Pool C bids
Do you understand that there are only about 32 Pool A (AQ) conferences in D-1 March Madness?  More than half of the field is "Pool C".

I imagined this as a League/Conference level tourney thing - as in I thought it would be fun for the SCIAC to try.  Looking at it as a format for a Regional thing holds up too.  The Regional rankings - irrespective of League standings - would be used to place the teams...after the League Tourney champs are placed...that could kick somebody out - possibly the highly seeded team that could not win its tourney, but that happens now.  That would take Pool C out of it - if I understand the Pool C thing, which I don't claim to actually understand.

Could a team (or 2) sneak in - yes.  That is the "Madness" part...but really, my read is that most folks find the biggest problem with the current playoffs is who is left out.  Do it this way and everybody - technically speaking - is in.  Who gets eliminated is decided on the field, not in a conference room.

I think the subjectivity the Pool C is what drives my thought to a way to truly "play it off".  In this format the 10th (or 11th...) team is the last team out.  If the seeds are honest
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 10, 2015, 09:10:20 PM
I like some change to the current system. Pool B/C system I have never liked

I like the system above that is described. Win it on the field and eliminate regional rankings and committee's choosing Pool B/C.


Round 1 2/3 Series

Round 2 Pool Play

Round 3 Double Elimination
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 11, 2015, 07:45:04 AM
So every conference would get an auto bid? Or would a conference still need 7 teams for an auto bid?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 11, 2015, 01:39:38 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 10, 2015, 09:10:20 PM
I like some change to the current system. Pool B/C system I have never liked

I like the system above that is described. Win it on the field and eliminate regional rankings and committee's choosing Pool B/C.


Round 1 2/3 Series

Round 2 Pool Play

Round 3 Double Elimination

I do like the current system.  Every team has a chance to win it on the field but sometimes fate will take away a legitimate playoff team.  There is at least one who had a great season but failed in the conference tourney every year.  If an automatic bid is the only way in, play a couple of games to set the seedings then a two of three to advance in each round.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 12, 2015, 02:35:04 AM
In the major series this weekend,

Congrats to PP for taking 2 out of 3 against Chapman.  Sat am come from behind win, which proceeded a Sat sweep, was impressive.
I had picked Chapman to win 2.

Congrats to CLU for taking 2 out of 3 against first place LaVerne.   Pitching was impressive with only 4 earned runs allowed in 3 games.
I had picked CLU to take 2 this weekend.

Redlands took care of business against CMS and Oxy played out of conf games.


Great competition going into last regular series (before 4 game round robin)

LV 15-6 against Chapman 14-7
Redland 16-8 is done until round robin
CLU 14-7 against Oxy 14-7
PP 14-7 against Cal Tech
Whittier 6-15 against CMS 3-18


Redlands can only move higher prior to Round robin, as those ahead of them are certain to lose.
PP, play Cal Tech, should finish 17-7.

Early predictions
LV 2-1 against Chapman
CLU 3-0 against Oxy
PP 3-0 against Cal Tech
Whittier 3-0 against CMS

Predicted Standings prior to Round Robin:

CLU 17-7  or 16-8 if they only take 2 against Oxy
LV 17-7    or 16-8 if Chapman ends up taking 2
PP 17-7
Redlands 16-8
Chapman 15-9   or 16-8 of Chapman ends up taking 2
Oxy 14-10    or 15-9 if CLU only takes 2
Whittier 9-15
CMS 3-21
Cal Tech 0-24



Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 12, 2015, 07:08:59 AM
Wow. SCIAC with any 6 of the top teams could win the Pool A Bid. Only 1 loss separates the teams in the loss column. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Richard Hamstocks on April 12, 2015, 09:09:20 PM
I was curious how the different schedules for the round robin would shake out this year with the rather strange 6 team race we are seeing this year, and if there were any clear advantages for different placings (and perhaps some arbitrage opportunities for teams to throw games based on "bracketology").  Clearly, conference schedules are now unbalanced since Chapman joined the conference.  Ultimately, I'd prefer for teams that are bubble teams for the conference tourney to all play each other, but this year, that would require a round robin of 5 games (with 1-6 all playing each other once) and that isn't in the cards.  I wasn't convinced that the set up would result in fairness this year, but it's actually not bad.  I'll assume the final weekend plays out as follows (PP sweeps, CLU sweeps, ULV wins 2, WC wins 2).  The final league standings then are a 3 way tie for first (CLU, ULV, PP in that order based on tie breakers each with 7 losses), UR in 4th with 8, CU with 9 in 5th and Oxy in 6th with 10. 
Based on this outcome, we have the following, with my metric being total conference wins over the 4 teams played in the round robin:

1. CLU vs 33 total SCIAC wins
2. ULV vs 39
3. PP vs 43
4. UR vs 38
5. CU vs 42
6. Oxy vs 46

You might think "not bad".  Clearly, this metric is somewhat arbitrary and open for conversation.  It's unlikely that in a given year, one could construct a round robin schedule such that every team has an equal value.  If a metric could be agreed on, I'd feel better about a round robin assignment of the form: consider all possible round robin schedules, choose the one that has the least variation in the chosen metric, subject to it being monotone in the ranking (finishing the "regular season" with the better record should be worth something). 
If you buy this metric, there is motivation for PP to go 1-2 vs Cal Tech, but I don't think it's terribly strong. 
The real problem here is that rather than let these teams fight it out for the final 4 spots over 4 games, it's actually done over two games.  Every one of the top 6 teams plays (exactly) two games over two of CMS, CIT or WC (who admittedly have proven to be dangerous).  This seems antithetical to what the conference tourney is set up to do, which is to let it play out on the field as much as possible. 
My proposal for this year:
1 and 2 play 3,4,5,6, 3 and 4 play 1,2,5,6, 5 and 6 play 1,2,3,4.   Oh well. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 13, 2015, 12:20:21 AM
I like the idea of pool play for the Round Robin phase. Incentives to be a 1 seed. Top 4 conferences records go to Conference tourney.

1,8,7,6 in Pool A

2,5,4,3 in Pool B

Everyone plays 9
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Richard Hamstocks on April 13, 2015, 10:09:05 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 13, 2015, 12:20:21 AM
I like the idea of pool play for the Round Robin phase. Incentives to be a 1 seed. Top 4 conferences records go to Conference tourney.

1,8,7,6 in Pool A

2,5,4,3 in Pool B

Everyone plays 9
And incentives to be the 6th seed! Why does Cal Tech play twice as many games as everyone else in this set up?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 13, 2015, 10:47:08 AM
Why does the whole conf have to play? Why not just top 6 teams ? The point is to select a team for regionals, why even mess with the bottom teams, especially when you have teams like Caltech?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 13, 2015, 06:06:39 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 13, 2015, 10:47:08 AM
Why does the whole conf have to play? Why not just top 6 teams ? The point is to select a team for regionals, why even mess with the bottom teams, especially when you have teams like Caltech?

I would say why not.  Use the season to seed the whole shootin' match then let everybody fight it out.

Just a thought...March Madness provides that tiny, tantalizing, tidbit of playoff hope almost all the way to the bottom.  It is what we love (and love to hate) about that tournament.  Taking the top 4 is boring.

I admire Cal Tech for their effort - but they do not have a legitimate chance to compete in a season schedule format and qualify for playoff competition with a cut-off Round Robin.  These kids know going into a season that the best outcome is to sneak a game from #8 or #7 and that's it.  They never really play a game with higher stakes.

I am not a trophy for everybody type, but, I thought it would be fun to extend it...imagine a nothing to lose Cal Tech getting a playoff taste and in one parallel universe of infinite parallel universes, they upset the first place team...Not saying it ever would happen, but you can't say it can't ever happen.

I bet some of those boys at Cal Tech could write the mathematical proof to that...

How many times has the 16th seed beat the 1 seed?  Now, how many times has a 15th seed beat a 2 seed?  Things get squishing pretty quick.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 13, 2015, 06:10:03 PM
If I were a coach - especially of 1-4 -  I would hate it.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Richard Hamstocks on April 13, 2015, 06:33:19 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 13, 2015, 06:06:39 PM
I am not a trophy for everybody type, but, I thought it would be fun to extend it...imagine and nothing to lose Cal Tech getting a playoff taste and in one parallel universe of infinite parallel universes, they upset the first place team...Not saying it ever would happen, but you can't say it can't ever happen.

I bet some of those boys at Cal Tech could write the mathematical proof to that...
This is just the (second) Borel-Cantelli lemma. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 13, 2015, 08:40:53 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on April 13, 2015, 06:33:19 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 13, 2015, 06:06:39 PM
I am not a trophy for everybody type, but, I thought it would be fun to extend it...imagine a nothing to lose Cal Tech getting a playoff taste and in one parallel universe of infinite parallel universes, they upset the first place team...Not saying it ever would happen, but you can't say it can't ever happen.

I bet some of those boys at Cal Tech could write the mathematical proof to that...
This is just the (second) Borel-Cantelli lemma.

...but not to be conflated with the special case infinite monkey theorem.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Richard Hamstocks on April 13, 2015, 10:19:57 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 13, 2015, 08:40:53 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on April 13, 2015, 06:33:19 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 13, 2015, 06:06:39 PM
I am not a trophy for everybody type, but, I thought it would be fun to extend it...imagine a nothing to lose Cal Tech getting a playoff taste and in one parallel universe of infinite parallel universes, they upset the first place team...Not saying it ever would happen, but you can't say it can't ever happen.

I bet some of those boys at Cal Tech could write the mathematical proof to that...
This is just the (second) Borel-Cantelli lemma.

...but not to be conflated with the special case infinite monkey theorem.
No, same result: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem)
One of the earliest instances of the use of the "monkey metaphor" is that of French mathematician Émile Borel in 1913...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 14, 2015, 01:17:06 AM
Cal Tech really needs to consider moving to Club baseball. Not being competitive just does not work.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 14, 2015, 05:44:45 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 14, 2015, 01:17:06 AM
Cal Tech really needs to consider moving to Club baseball. Not being competitive just does not work.

This is brought up pretty much every year. One potential issue is how it would affect the rest of their athletics programs. Can one team move to club? Or one team move out of SCIAC? Would there be funding/Title IX issues? Granted they already don't compete in several SCIAC sports so maybe it wouldn't be that big a deal...

The club route is something I've always thought would be a good idea, though. I think there are several club teams in the area and it wouldn't be difficult to build a schedule that's probably more appropriate for their workload.

Just because I was curious:
Men's Cross Country finished ahead of CLU and Chapman (and tied with ULV)
Men's Basketball actually snagged three wins this year after a couple very well-publicized decades of futility
Men's Soccer managed a SCIAC tie and as I recall they're usually able to snag a game or two each year
Men's Swimming and Diving went 1-7
Men's Tennis was 5-10 overall
Men's Track finished ahead of Chapman in dual points (SCIAC Champs upcoming)
Women's Basketball won two games, tied with Oxy in SCIAC
Women's Tennis went 1-7, finished above Oxy
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 14, 2015, 08:40:09 PM
Should Cal Tech continue to play D3 Baseball?

While Cal Tech might not (ever) be competitive in the SCIAC, there is reasonable evidence to suggest that they would be very competitive in other D3 Baseball Leagues.

Fact 1: They beat Drew, sweeping a doubleheader.  Drew is 10-17 overall and 8-7 in their league.  There are other leagues where Cal Tech would be right in the middle of the competition.

Fact 2:  Look at MIT - a similar institution in terms of academic rigor - they field a football team.  If MIT can do this, there is, apparently, a road map that Cal Tech could follow if it so chooses.

Unfortunately for Cal Tech there aren't any conference choices out West to align themselves more competitively.  As an example, Cornell College in Iowa moved back the MWC from the IIAC where most of their athletic teams were savaged by schools with more emphasis on athletics and bigger student populations.  The recent athletic successes, in all sports, Cornell has experienced, for the most part is directly related to this move.

I would not be an advocate of drumming them out of the league, but I will stipulate that it gets a bit farcical - until that day when the Beavers catch lightning in a bottle and some SCIAC team is the butt of jokes on ESPN.  There won't be a case of wine from Pop waiting for that coach....
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 14, 2015, 08:40:21 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 14, 2015, 08:40:09 PM
Should Cal Tech continue to play D3 Baseball?

While Cal Tech might not (ever) be competitive in the SCIAC, there is reasonable evidence to suggest that they would be very competitive in other D3 Baseball Leagues.

Fact 1: They beat Drew, sweeping a doubleheader.  Drew is 10-17 overall and 8-7 in their league.  There are other leagues where Cal Tech  would be right in the middle of the competition.

Fact 2:  Look at MIT - a similar institution in terms of academic rigor - they field a football team.  If MIT can do this, there is, apparently, a road map that Cal Tech could follow if it so chooses.

Unfortunately for Cal Tech there aren't any conference choices out West to align themselves more competitively.  As an example, Cornell College in Iowa moved back the MWC from the IIAC where most of their athletic teams were savaged by schools with more emphasis on athletics and bigger student populations.  The recent athletic successes, in all sports, Cornell has experienced, for the most part is directly related to this move.

I would not be an advocate of drumming them out of the league, but I will stipulate that it gets a bit farcical - until that day when the Beavers catch lightning in a bottle and some SCIAC team is the butt of jokes on ESPN.  There won't be a case of wine from Pop waiting for that coach....
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 14, 2015, 08:45:20 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 14, 2015, 08:40:21 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 14, 2015, 08:40:09 PM
Should Cal Tech continue to play D3 Baseball?

While Cal Tech might not (ever) be competitive in the SCIAC, there is reasonable evidence to suggest that they would be very competitive in other D3 Baseball Leagues.

Fact 1: They beat Drew, sweeping a doubleheader.  Drew is 10-17 overall and 8-7 in their league.  There are other leagues where Cal Tech would be right in the middle of the competition.

Fact 2:  Look at MIT - a similar institution in terms of academic rigor - they field a football team.  If MIT can do this, there is, apparently, a road map that Cal Tech could follow if it so chooses.

Unfortunately for Cal Tech there aren't any conference choices out West to align themselves more competitively.  As an example, Cornell College in Iowa moved back the MWC from the IIAC where most of their athletic teams were savaged by schools with more emphasis on athletics and bigger student populations.  The recent athletic successes, in all sports, Cornell has experienced, for the most part is directly related to this move.

I would not be an advocate of drumming them out of the league, but I will stipulate that it gets a bit farcical - until that day when the Beavers catch lightning in a bottle and some SCIAC team is the butt of jokes on ESPN.  There won't be a case of wine from Pop waiting for that coach....

Maybe the Cal Tech student/athletes should use Presence Bots to attend class during their respective seasons while they compete elsewhere in a league more in their class.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJym01sqI4Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJym01sqI4Q)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 15, 2015, 10:59:54 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 14, 2015, 08:40:09 PM
Should Cal Tech continue to play D3 Baseball?

While Cal Tech might not (ever) be competitive in the SCIAC, there is reasonable evidence to suggest that they would be very competitive in other D3 Baseball Leagues.

Fact 1: They beat Drew, sweeping a doubleheader.  Drew is 10-17 overall and 8-7 in their league.  There are other leagues where Cal Tech would be right in the middle of the competition.

Fact 2:  Look at MIT - a similar institution in terms of academic rigor - they field a football team.  If MIT can do this, there is, apparently, a road map that Cal Tech could follow if it so chooses.

Unfortunately for Cal Tech there aren't any conference choices out West to align themselves more competitively.  As an example, Cornell College in Iowa moved back the MWC from the IIAC where most of their athletic teams were savaged by schools with more emphasis on athletics and bigger student populations.  The recent athletic successes, in all sports, Cornell has experienced, for the most part is directly related to this move.

I would not be an advocate of drumming them out of the league, but I will stipulate that it gets a bit farcical - until that day when the Beavers catch lightning in a bottle and some SCIAC team is the butt of jokes on ESPN.  There won't be a case of wine from Pop waiting for that coach....
I am not sure you can make this direct comparison to other leagues. Yes they played Drew and won. Drew may have still working on determining their rotation, starters, or getting players playing time to see what they had. Drew had only 4 games under their belt when they played Cal Tech. Cal Tech already had played 14 games, plus they had not traveled across the country and staying in unfamiliar surroundings. Drew also played 6 games in five days.

Fly Cat Tech out to Drew with that many fewer games than Drew, and I am pretty sure Drew would sweep. Drew had also beat Oxi the day before, when was the last time Cal Tech beat OXI? Just being from the SCIAC does not automatically make them a mid tier team in another conference.

Look at Wilmington in the OAC. They are a bad team in a very good conference, that does not mean they would be mid tier anywhere else.

As to comparing MIT to Cal Tech, the rigor of their academics and their selectivity of the schools is where the comparison ends. We do not know the recruiting budget that either school has, My guess is MIT's is a bit larger. I also believe MIT has slightly more emphasis on Athletics than Cal Tech.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 15, 2015, 03:26:15 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on April 15, 2015, 10:59:54 AM
I am not sure you can make this direct comparison to other leagues.

I may have picked a bad example for you, but I am certain Cal Tech could compete in the lower tier leagues - and there are lower tier leagues out there

Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on April 15, 2015, 10:59:54 AM
Yes they played Drew and won. Drew may have still working on determining their rotation, starters, or getting players playing time to see what they had. Drew had only 4 games under their belt when they played Cal Tech. Cal Tech already had played 14 games, plus they had not traveled across the country and staying in unfamiliar surroundings. Drew also played 6 games in five days.

Fly Cal Tech out to Drew with that many fewer games than Drew, and I am pretty sure Drew would sweep. Drew had also beat Oxi the day before, when was the last time Cal Tech beat OXI? Just being from the SCIAC does not automatically make them a mid tier team in another conference.

Exactly my point that Drew is no slouch, but even they needed to be in a higher ready state to beat Cal Tech - it speaks to my point that Cal Tech is not a total walk over

Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on April 15, 2015, 10:59:54 AM
Look at Wilmington in the OAC. They are a bad team in a very good conference, that does not mean they would be mid tier anywhere else.

This is a matter of opinion, however I have cited a case, Cornell's, that resulted in just that...a bottom team of abigger/better conference that is now competitve - mid to upper echelon - in a lower level conference

And finally...

Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on April 15, 2015, 10:59:54 AM
As to comparing MIT to Cal Tech, the rigor of their academics and their selectivity of the schools is where the comparison ends. We do not know the recruiting budget that either school has, My guess is MIT's is a bit larger. I also believe MIT has slightly more emphasis on Athletics than Cal Tech.

As I said, " If MIT can do this, there is, apparently, a road map that Cal Tech could follow if it so chooses."  They appear to me to be precisely aligned in academics and selectivity...but that is not mutually exclusive from athletic success.  But it is a result of other things such as budgets, recruiting emphasis, or what referred to as the road map.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 15, 2015, 03:32:54 PM
If you are saying that Cal Tech can have success, if they follow MIT's model I agree. But drop them as is in almost any d3 conference in the country, and they would still be near the bottom. All I am saying is you cannot use the example of them beating Drew to say they would be a midfl8ng team in other conferences, as is. The Drew win is too small a sample size.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on April 15, 2015, 03:46:53 PM
MIT has just over 4,500 undergraduates, while Caltech has about 900 - a significant difference that would impact athletics.  Also, while MIT is incredibly selective, Caltech is kind of in another universe - basically 25% + of the incoming CIT Frosh classes have perfect SAT scores (M + CR)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 15, 2015, 03:47:41 PM
We should stop beating a dead horse, Cal Tech will NEVER field a competitive baseball team, regardless of conference. Since they are only in the SCIAC region it is pointless to discuss if they would compete elsewhere. (BTW they would not)

MIT has an enrollment of 11,300 and Cal Tech is 2,200. Both are extremely selective, but MIT has a significant advantage in terms of student body size, and probably facilities. (I am assuming here)

They field some other sports and good for them, but the baseball program realistically should go club, I can't imagine it is much fun going out and getting your electrons kicked in week in and week out.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 15, 2015, 03:49:02 PM
Whata game and I are in a parallel universe.....
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on April 15, 2015, 04:50:08 PM
Since we're on the topic of "what ifs" regarding SCIAC membership, I've often thought that Westmont College would be a great fit for the SCIAC, switching from NAIA to NCAA D3. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 15, 2015, 08:10:51 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on April 15, 2015, 03:32:54 PM
If you are saying that Cal Tech can have success, if they follow MIT's model I agree. But drop them as is in almost any d3 conference in the country, and they would still be near the bottom. All I am saying is you cannot use the example of them beating Drew to say they would be a midfl8ng team in other conferences, as is. The Drew win is too small a sample size.

What I am saying is that in the SCIAC (or the NWC), at their current level of athletic commitment, they have next to no chance.  I respect the effort level I witnessed over the weekend, but I think they may, in their professional career, have a better chance of detecting a Higgs boson than winning a SCIAC game.  I find that to be a pity since there are lower level conferences where they would have a better chance at winning games than detecting a Higgs boson.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 17, 2015, 12:49:27 PM
Purple,
But with their current commitment I doubt they would have much of a chance in any conference. I am not disparaging the SCIAC in any way. There are very good teams in that conference. I would have a hard time agreeing that they would do better in a Lesser conference. I would have a hard time saying what a lesser conference is unless I actually see the teams in that conference play.
I am not sure how much actual recruiting Cal Tech can do. With as hard as it is to get into the school and the coaches not having TIPS, a lot of times I believe that a large part of their team is selected from students who show up to campus with out ever being seen by the coach.

The article below is about tennis, but it does describe the challenges of playing a sport at Caltech.

http://www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-play-in-a-Caltech-sports-team

So unless you have seen play in these lesser conferences and can truly compare, I would cation against saying that CalTech would be a middling team in another confernce.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 17, 2015, 03:00:19 PM
Conceding that we will collectively fail to solve the Cal Tech Conundrum (sounds like a Big Bang Theory episode, appropriately) again this year, I'm moving on to weekend picks.

PP 3-0 over Cal Tech
CLU 3-0 over Oxy
ULV 2-1 over Chapman
Whittier 2-1 over CMS
Redlands 2-1 over UPS (we should all be rooting for Redlands in this one. A sweep puts Redlands at 26-9 overall and certainly in the Pool C conversation depending on round robin and conference tournament)

Predicted standings going into Round Robin:
1. Cal Lutheran 17-7 (24-11) (head-to-head tie breaker over ULV and PP)
2. La Verne 17-7 (20-14) (head-to-head tie breaker over PP)
3. Pomona-Pitzer 17-7 (25-10)
4. Redlands 16-8 (25-10)
5. Chapman 15-9 (22-13)
6. Occidental 14-10 (19-16)
7. Whittier 8-16 (10-25)
8. CMS 4-20 (6-29)
9. Cal Tech 0-24 (2-31)         

I think at this point, Cal Lu Redlands and PP are the only teams who will have any chance at a Pool C, and the odds aren't great. While all three have a shot at reaching that impressive 30 win mark, any Pool C team will necessarily have tacked on 2 more losses in the SCIAC tournament. Further, none of those three have especially impressive non-conference resumes. We'll see how the rest of the country fares in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 17, 2015, 03:04:19 PM
Thanks, Teddy, I agree, none of this will be solved but it will be rehashed every year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 17, 2015, 07:56:48 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on April 17, 2015, 03:04:19 PM
Thanks, Teddy, I agree, none of this will be solved but it will be rehashed every year.

Or at least in a number of parallel universes...or by monkeys with typewriters, or something like that.   8-)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 17, 2015, 08:18:05 PM
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Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 17, 2015, 08:21:46 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 17, 2015, 03:00:19 PM
Conceding that we will collectively fail to solve the Cal Tech Conundrum (sounds like a Big Bang Theory episode, appropriately) again this year, I'm moving on to weekend picks.

PP 3-0 over Cal Tech
CLU 3-0 over Oxy
ULV 2-1 over Chapman
Whittier 2-1 over CMS
Redlands 2-1 over UPS (we should all be rooting for Redlands in this one. A sweep puts Redlands at 26-9 overall and certainly in the Pool C conversation depending on round robin and conference tournament)

Predicted standings going into Round Robin:
1. Cal Lutheran 17-7 (24-11) (head-to-head tie breaker over ULV and PP)
2. La Verne 17-7 (20-14) (head-to-head tie breaker over PP)
3. Pomona-Pitzer 17-7 (25-10)
4. Redlands 16-8 (25-10)
5. Chapman 15-9 (22-13)
6. Occidental 14-10 (19-16)
7. Whittier 8-16 (10-25)
8. CMS 4-20 (6-29)
9. Cal Tech 0-24 (2-31)         

I think at this point, Cal Lu Redlands and PP are the only teams who will have any chance at a Pool C, and the odds aren't great. While all three have a shot at reaching that impressive 30 win mark, any Pool C team will necessarily have tacked on 2 more losses in the SCIAC tournament. Further, none of those three have especially impressive non-conference resumes. We'll see how the rest of the country fares in the coming weeks.

Many 30 win teams have stayed home in the West over the years.  SCIAC potential Pool C is penalized by playing Cal Tech, CMS and Whitter this year. SOS is hurt and Pool C bid may not be achievable. Round 1 of the playoffs is the SCIAC conference. Win it to move on or expect to stay home
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 17, 2015, 08:40:47 PM
Whittier locks up 7th, winning at CMS 7-3
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 19, 2015, 11:07:10 AM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on April 12, 2015, 02:35:04 AM
Redlands can only move higher prior to Round robin, as those ahead of them are certain to lose.
PP, play Cal Tech, should finish 17-7.

Early predictions
LV 2-1 against Chapman
CLU 3-0 against Oxy
PP 3-0 against Cal Tech
Whittier 3-0 against CMS

Predicted Standings prior to Round Robin:

CLU 17-7  or 16-8 if they only take 2 against Oxy
LV 17-7    or 16-8 if Chapman ends up taking 2
PP 17-7
Redlands 16-8
Chapman 15-9   or 16-8 of Chapman ends up taking 2
Oxy 14-10    or 15-9 if CLU only takes 2
Whittier 9-15
CMS 3-21
Cal Tech 0-24
Congrats CMS on taking 2 of 3 against Whittier.  I was accurate in all of my other picks except that series.

CLU 17-7
LV 17-7
PP 17-7
Redlands 16-8
Chapman 15-9
Oxy 14-10
Whittier 7-17
CMS 5-19
Cal Tech 0-24


Picks for upcoming round robin will be coming once I review round robin schedules.  It's exciting for SCIAC that 6 teams have a chance to make SCIAC playoffs.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 19, 2015, 11:11:01 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 09, 2015, 03:30:20 PM
So far it looks like Cal Lu and Pomona is fighting it out for the 1 spot

Middle of La Verne., Occidental, Redlands and Chapman

The bottom of Whittier, CMS, and Cal Tech.

My prediction is Cal Lu will be the Pool A bid team from the SCIAC

Pomona/La Verne will fight for a Pool C bids

Rest of the SCIAC will be at home at the BBQ during May.

http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/index

Crash:   your early March post is looking very accurate.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 19, 2015, 12:49:15 PM
Round-Robin Schedule

4/22
CLU@CMS
La Verne@Caltech
Pomona@Whittier

4/25
Caltech@Redlands
La Verne@Redlands

Whittier@Chapman
Pomona@Chapman

CMS@OXY
CLU@OXY

4/26
Chapman@CLU
Caltech@CLU

OXY@La Verne
Whittier@La Venre

Redlands@Pomona
CMS@Pomona

4/28
Chapman@Caltech
OXY@Whittier
Redlands@CMS
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 20, 2015, 10:24:34 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 19, 2015, 12:49:15 PM
Round-Robin Schedule

4/22
CLU@CMS                          CLU
La Verne@Caltech               LV
Pomona@Whittier                PP

4/25
Caltech@Redlands               Redlands
La Verne@Redlands             Redlands in a tossup

Whittier@Chapman              Chapman
Pomona@Chapman              Chapman

CMS@OXY                           Oxy
CLU@OXY                            CLU

4/26
Chapman@CLU                    CLU
Caltech@CLU                       CLU

OXY@La Verne                     LV
Whittier@La Venre                LV

Redlands@Pomona               PP in a tossup 
CMS@Pomona                      PP

4/28
Chapman@Caltech                Chapman
OXY@Whittier                       Oxy
Redlands@CMS                     Redlands

CLU 4-0           21-7
LV 3-1             20-8
PP 3-1             20-8
Redlands 3-1    19-9
Chapman 3-1   18-10
Oxy 2-2           16-12
Whittier 0-4       7-21
CMS  0-4           5-23
Caltech   0-4      0-28
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 20, 2015, 10:33:00 AM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 06, 2015, 10:18:17 AM

Last year LV made top 4 with 15-13 in SCIAC; I think this years #4 will need 11 or less losses to go through, just like 2013.
2014:  3 teams with 13-14 losses, only one made Conf tournament
2013:  4 teams 11-13 losses, only the two 11 loss teams made Conf Tournament


Earlier in the year I opined that teams would need 11 or less losses to go through, just like 2013.
With 5 teams with 7-9 losses, I don't think double digit losses will be good enough.  I think Chapman needs to sweep and root for LV and PP to beat Redlands to get into the Conference tourney.  Looking forward to seeing how this all turns out.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 21, 2015, 12:53:26 AM
If Redlands does get in, it's going to be a tough first game for whoever they play as Minjarez has been pretty lights out this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 21, 2015, 10:27:31 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 21, 2015, 12:53:26 AM.

If Redlands does get in, it's going to be a tough first game for whoever they play as Minjarez has been pretty lights out this year.

Totally agree as he is 5-0 with 2.59 ERA in conference. 
Brett Early of LaVerne (#2 starter) is right there with him at 6-1 with 2.84 in conference.  And Iniquez is also 6-1.

If my picks hold (and we know I have yet to have a perfect week yet),
- Redlands at CLU.   Peters vs Minjarez, repeat of March 20th.  Minjarez 10K's, 4 ER in 7.2 with no decision.  Peters 9 innings, 3 ER no decision.
- PP at LV. Ininquez had strong start against PP with 10K, 1 ER in 8 innings.


But, there's a long way to go before then and every week I end up surprised with the results.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 21, 2015, 12:09:24 PM
However it plays out, I'd like to see the SCIAC team(s) go deep in the playoffs.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 22, 2015, 10:25:44 PM
Today's Games:

Pomona-Pitzer over Whittier 11-1
PP could have easily overlooked a team better than their record but came out strong and won in 7 innings, CG for Lane Miles. Good win for the Hens
Cal Lutheran over CMS 11-2
CLU took care of business against the Stags and saved Peters for the weekend
La Verne over Cal Tech 3-1
?????? La Verne was tied 1-1 after four and scored two late. Not a good result even if a starter or two weren't in the lineup. Had to use Early for a couple innings, but he should be good to go again on Sunday or even Saturday

Round robin play continues Saturday.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 23, 2015, 01:08:49 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 22, 2015, 10:25:44 PM
Today's Games:

Pomona-Pitzer over Whittier 11-1
PP could have easily overlooked a team better than their record but came out strong and won in 7 innings, CG for Lane Miles. Good win for the Hens
Cal Lutheran over CMS 11-2
CLU took care of business against the Stags and saved Peters for the weekend
La Verne over Cal Tech 3-1
?????? La Verne was tied 1-1 after four and scored two late. Not a good result even if a starter or two weren't in the lineup. Had to use Early for a couple innings, but he should be good to go again on Sunday or even Saturday

Round robin play continues Saturday.

Was hoping for a better outcome, but the PP hitters just seem to own Whittier pitching.  They took hold of the game from the outset.  When they play like that they seem like the best team in the SCIAC to me...still scratching my head as to how ULV took a series from them.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on April 25, 2015, 07:43:11 PM
I had to check the play by play on the box score of the CU/ Whittier game to make sure the line score of the CU starter wasn't a typo.....crazy.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 25, 2015, 08:59:42 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on April 25, 2015, 07:43:11 PM
I had to check the play by play on the box score of the CU/ Whittier game to make sure the line score of the CU starter wasn't a typo.....crazy.

Oh it was that and more...we even had a bench clearing. A little pushing and shoving and harsh language...but nothing to get anybody sent off.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 25, 2015, 09:01:09 PM
Definitely Not Top Ten worthy.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 25, 2015, 09:02:28 PM
Not that they would but they should send it in because it would get strong consideration
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 25, 2015, 09:03:50 PM
CU Kid had a no-no going...then WC went to their dreaded bunt attack.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 25, 2015, 09:17:53 PM
Play by play does it no justice

With CU leading 5-0 and seemingly in control...
WC Lead off reaches on E6 advances to 2B on the throw
WC Sac bunt fielded by P, who throws it out of the stadium. Out. Of. The stadium.
1 run, batter runner to 2B
WC Sac bunt fielded by P, who overthrows 1B up the RF line along fence
1 run, batter runner to 2B
Wild pitch runner to 3B
HBP
WC Sac bunt fielded by P, who overthrows 1B further up the line past the RF attempting to back up play
2 runs, batter runner to 3B

Hilarity ensues, Benches clear.

P mercifully relieved of duties
WC cashes in run 5 on a more conventionally played SAC Fly.
Next batter drills a well struck ball off CF's glove for a 2 base error or double depending on which side you root for - WC is still hitless originally scored a hit but the play re-scored as an error (cue the CU fans whining to preserve the no-no).
1 out later the batter singles up the middle plating the go ahead run with the first official WC hit of the day.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 26, 2015, 01:57:51 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 25, 2015, 09:17:53 PM
Play by play does it no justice

With CU leading 5-0 and seemingly in control...
WC Lead off reaches on E6 advances to 2B on the throw
WC Sac bunt fielded by P, who throws it out of the stadium. Out. Of. The stadium.
1 run, batter runner to 2B
WC Sac bunt fielded by P, who overthrows 1B up the RF line along fence
1 run, batter runner to 2B
Wild pitch runner to 3B
HBP
WC Sac bunt fielded by P, who overthrows 1B further up the line past the RF attempting to back up play
2 runs, batter runner to 3B

Hilarity ensues, Benches clear.

P mercifully relieved of duties
WC cashes in run 5 on a more conventionally played SAC Fly.
Next batter drills a well struck ball off CF's glove for a 2 base error or double depending on which side you root for - WC is still hitless originally scored a hit but the play re-scored as an error (cue the CU fans whining to preserve the no-no).
1 out later the batter singles up the middle plating the go ahead run with the first official WC hit of the day.

WOW. Yikes.

As for the rest of SCIAC...
PP was able to come out swinging in the second game of Chapman's doubleheader and pull out a win 8-3.
Redlands beat La Verne 6-3 (anyone know why they only played 7? rain or darkness?)
CLU and Oxy were postponed while Oxy sported a 2-1 lead.

The four tournament teams are essentially set now- Pomona, CLU, Redlands, and La Verene UNLESS Oxy holds that lead against CLU, beats ULV, beats Whittier, and ULV loses to Whitter.

Additionally, I'm pretty sure all four of those teams (ULV, PP, CLU, UoR) still have a shot at both the 1 seed and the 4 seed. Because of course.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 26, 2015, 08:41:05 PM
Redlands doing what they needed to do in their first 3 Round Robin games.
They defeated Cal Tech, LV and PP.   Now only 1 CLU loss away from 1st place.  They are 2-2 against PP and 2-1 against CLU, so I would think they hold the tiebreaker if CLU loses to Oxy on Monday and Redlands defeats CMS on Tuesday.
Their come from behind win over PP, aided by 2 unearned runs in 6th was huge for Redlands.
As opined earlier, Redlands isn't the team anyone wants to face in game one of SCIAC tourney.

CLU took care of business today, mercying Chapman 13-3 and Cal Tech 13-1.
CLU offense in double digits in last four games vs Oxy, CMS, Chapman and Cal Tech.  Now they just have to finish game against Oxy on Monday.

PP was playing strongly going into todays game at Redlands.  That loss will probably eliminate them from Pool C.
CLU may have a Pool C opportunity depending on NWC.  They are 2-0 against Whitworth and Whitworth's NWC tourney success should bode well for CLU's SOS.

I'm watching LiveTrac to see if PP holds on to beat CMS and if Whittier holds on and upsets LV.




Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 26, 2015, 10:12:10 PM
Poets hold on, let go, grab it back, and win. 10-9 WC
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 26, 2015, 11:40:40 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on April 26, 2015, 08:41:05 PM
Redlands doing what they needed to do in their first 3 Round Robin games.
They defeated Cal Tech, LV and PP.   Now only 1 CLU loss away from 1st place.  They are 2-2 against PP and 2-1 against CLU, so I would think they hold the tiebreaker if CLU loses to Oxy on Monday and Redlands defeats CMS on Tuesday.
Their come from behind win over PP, aided by 2 unearned runs in 6th was huge for Redlands.
As opined earlier, Redlands isn't the team anyone wants to face in game one of SCIAC tourney.



I'm really not sure how the tie breaker would work if Cal Lu loses to Oxy.  With all 3 teams being 20-8, Cal Lu would have the advantage over P-P but not Redlands.  Redlands couldn't jump P-P since they split 2-2 this year.  Would it go to who had the best record against the 4th place team?  If so (and it's LaVerne) Cal Lu was 2-1, P-P was 1-2 and Redlands was 3-1.  If the 4th place team is Oxy, Cal Lu would be 3-1, Redlands would be 2-1 and Pomona would be 2-1.

Of course, all of this can be thrown out the window if Cal Lu wins tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 27, 2015, 10:12:49 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 26, 2015, 11:40:40 PM
i'm really not sure how the tie breaker would work if Cal Lu loses to Oxy.  With all 3 teams being 20-8, Cal Lu would have the advantage over P-P but not Redlands.  Redlands couldn't jump P-P since they split 2-2 this year.  Would it go to who had the best record against the 4th place team?  If so (and it's LaVerne) Cal Lu was 2-1, P-P was 1-2 and Redlands was 3-1.  If the 4th place team is Oxy, Cal Lu would be 3-1, Redlands would be 2-1 and Pomona would be 2-1.

Of course, all of this can be thrown out the window if Cal Lu wins tomorrow.
As I understand it,

If CLU loses today vs Oxy,
If three way tie, they look at record against each other.

PP: 2-2 vs Redlands, 1-2 against CLU    3-4 overall
Redlands:  2-2 vs PP, 2-1 vs CLU     4-3 overall
CLU:  2-1 vs PP, 1-2 vs Redlands    3-3 overall

Redlands wins the tie breaker.  CLU 2nd seed.  PP 3rd seed .... 
or, at least that's how I think it works.


For 4th:   Oxy 16-10 and LV 18-10,
Oxy needs to win today against CLU and Tues against Whittier (which just beat LV)
if they do, both Oxy and LV are 18-10.  And they are 2-2 against each other.   I don't know what the next tiebreaker is. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 27, 2015, 03:49:11 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on April 27, 2015, 10:12:49 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 26, 2015, 11:40:40 PM
i'm really not sure how the tie breaker would work if Cal Lu loses to Oxy.  With all 3 teams being 20-8, Cal Lu would have the advantage over P-P but not Redlands.  Redlands couldn't jump P-P since they split 2-2 this year.  Would it go to who had the best record against the 4th place team?  If so (and it's LaVerne) Cal Lu was 2-1, P-P was 1-2 and Redlands was 3-1.  If the 4th place team is Oxy, Cal Lu would be 3-1, Redlands would be 2-1 and Pomona would be 2-1.

Of course, all of this can be thrown out the window if Cal Lu wins tomorrow.
As I understand it,

If CLU loses today vs Oxy,
If three way tie, they look at record against each other.

PP: 2-2 vs Redlands, 1-2 against CLU    3-4 overall
Redlands:  2-2 vs PP, 2-1 vs CLU     4-3 overall
CLU:  2-1 vs PP, 1-2 vs Redlands    3-3 overall

Redlands wins the tie breaker.  CLU 2nd seed.  PP 3rd seed .... 
or, at least that's how I think it works.


For 4th:   Oxy 16-10 and LV 18-10,
Oxy needs to win today against CLU and Tues against Whittier (which just beat LV)
if they do, both Oxy and LV are 18-10.  And they are 2-2 against each other.   I don't know what the next tiebreaker is. 


I think you're correct on the three way tiebreaker. Further, if CLU wins and it's Redlands-PP tied for the two seed, since both teams are 2-2 against each other I believe the next criteria is record against the top team (that's how it was explained to me anyway). In which case Redlands 2-1 vs CLU gets the two seed over PP 1-2 vs CLU. Not sure if that same tiebreaker would be used for ULV and Oxy- if so ULV went 1-2 and Oxy was swept. So ULV would still get in. Meaning ULV has already clinched the four seed.

I'm honestly not sure though, and a CLU win in the continued game this afternoon and a Redlands loss tomorrow against CMS will solve a few headaches.

Side note:
ULV vs. CLU-UoR-PP = 4-6
Oxy vs. CLU-UoR-PP = 2-7 (3-7 if they get to the point of needing to look at tie breakers)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 27, 2015, 04:01:00 PM
Totally unrelated to SCIAC playoffs and Pool C's... but I managed to catch a few innings of the PP-CMS game (after playing my own old man baseball game). At first I was disappointed in the Hens for trailing as late as the 8th inning to a team that's seen a lot of struggles this year. But I (a) realized that CMS is a lot better than their record shows- they're scrappy and they can swing the sticks pretty well and (b) remembered just how much the rivalry means to both teams.

Every year in just about every sport, it doesn't matter who the "better" team is. It's almost always a dog fight, and the "underdog" performs a lot better than expected. There's something so special and unique about sharing a campus with your archrivals- walking to each other's field/court, dining together, taking classes together, even partying together. And it doesn't hurt that Pomona and Mckenna are always within a few spots of each other on the college rankings, with HMC Scripps and Pitzer also elite academic institutions.

Maybe its the knowledge that you can dangle your successes over your rivals heads with such ease and frequency that leads to such passion on the field, or the fear of being on the other side. Regardless, the rivalry is pretty much unparalleled in college sport. There's a reason former PP Basketball coach Greg Popovich still calls the CMS-PP games at old Ducey gym the most intense games he's ever coached.

I'm glad CMS played such a close game, but I'm even happier PP went 4-0 this year  ;D

Good luck to the Stags in their finale against Redlands Tuesday! In 2010 CMS played one of their best games of the year in the finale against Redlands to clinch a SCIAC title for my Sagehens, maybe they can help us secure a 2 seed this year in the same way.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 27, 2015, 10:56:38 PM
CLU took care of business with another double digit offensive performance.  15-3 after continuing game down 2-1.  5th game in a row > 10 runs.

Looking strong now that most of infielders returned from injury.  5 starters hitting .380 or better.   And they have solidified back end of bullpen.  Looking forward to SCIAC tourney this upcoming weekend.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 29, 2015, 01:32:39 AM
Having gone through the process twice before, I still get wispy watching college seniors play the last game of their collegiate careers.

Congratulations to you all.  Adding intercollegiate athletics to your resume gives an employer another reason to remember who you are in a crowd.  Team play and competitiveness in the business world is every bit as important in the office as it was on the field (or track or court).

Best of luck '15.  :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: RFB on April 29, 2015, 04:23:46 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 29, 2015, 01:32:39 AM
Having gone through the process twice before, I still get wispy watching college seniors play the last game of their collegiate careers.

Congratulations to you all.  Adding intercollegiate athletics to your resume gives an employer another reason to remember who you are in a crowd.  Team play and competitiveness in the business world is every bit as important in the office as it was on the field (or track or court).

Best of luck '15.  :)

Cal Lu on the resume qualifies you to make copies and fetch coffee at best. Maybe an internship reporting to a Sh*ttier graduate.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 29, 2015, 08:19:10 PM
Quote from: RFB on April 29, 2015, 04:23:46 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 29, 2015, 01:32:39 AM
Having gone through the process twice before, I still get wispy watching college seniors play the last game of their collegiate careers.

Congratulations to you all.  Adding intercollegiate athletics to your resume gives an employer another reason to remember who you are in a crowd.  Team play and competitiveness in the business world is every bit as important in the office as it was on the field (or track or court).

Best of luck '15.  :)

Cal Lu on the resume qualifies you to make copies and fetch coffee at best. Maybe an internship reporting to a Sh*ttier graduate.

Go back to your cave, troll.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 29, 2015, 08:36:23 PM
SCIAC picks:

Friday:
LV at CLU:  Iniquez vs Peters.   Last time Peters gave up 2 ER; but took loss due to 3 Unearned runs.  Iniquez 8 IP, 4 ER. 
CLU defense has improved with return of players.   CLU offense on a roll; 5 straight 10+ runs.
Iniquez last 7 outings, 21 ER in 46 IP 4.11ERA.   LV scoring ave of 4.4 in last 10.
Pick:  CLU

PP at Redlands:  Minjarez last two starts, 4IP ERA 6.75  One of the games was vs PP.   But Redlands won 9-7 due to 4 unearned runs.
PP offense #2 in SCIAC.  Redlands won the Round Robin 9-7.
Pick:  Redlands

Sat:
PP at LV:  Picking PP; Even though LV took 2 of 3 from PP, they just lost 3 in a row in Round Robin.
Redlands at CLU (will Redlands be home team even though at CLU)  Picking CLU.   It's going to be much harder if they are visitor, even playing at home

PP vs Redlands:  Redlands

Sun:  CLU over Redlands


I'm pretty comfortable with the picks for/against LV and CLU;
PP and Redlands could go the complete opposite with PP winning game 1 and Saturdays rematch.  But, Redlands has been hitting well and pitching is more consistent; and they did just win all 4 in Round Robin; including 9-7 against PP due to 4 Unearned runs.  PP has given up 53 Unearned vs Redlands 39.  I think we'll see Redlands win Sat due to Unearned run.

In the end:  CLU wins SCIAC for third year in a row.


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on May 01, 2015, 09:24:40 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on April 29, 2015, 08:36:23 PM
SCIAC picks:

Friday:
LV at CLU:  Iniquez vs Peters.   Last time Peters gave up 2 ER; but took loss due to 3 Unearned runs.  Iniquez 8 IP, 4 ER. 
CLU defense has improved with return of players.   CLU offense on a roll; 5 straight 10+ runs.
Iniquez last 7 outings, 21 ER in 46 IP 4.11ERA.   LV scoring ave of 4.4 in last 10.
Pick:  CLU

PP at Redlands:  Minjarez last two starts, 4IP ERA 6.75  One of the games was vs PP.   But Redlands won 9-7 due to 4 unearned runs.
PP offense #2 in SCIAC.  Redlands won the Round Robin 9-7.
Pick:  Redlands

Sat:
PP at LV:  Picking PP; Even though LV took 2 of 3 from PP, they just lost 3 in a row in Round Robin.
Redlands at CLU (will Redlands be home team even though at CLU)  Picking CLU.   It's going to be much harder if they are visitor, even playing at home

PP vs Redlands:  Redlands

Sun:  CLU over Redlands


I'm pretty comfortable with the picks for/against LV and CLU;
PP and Redlands could go the complete opposite with PP winning game 1 and Saturdays rematch.  But, Redlands has been hitting well and pitching is more consistent; and they did just win all 4 in Round Robin; including 9-7 against PP due to 4 Unearned runs.  PP has given up 53 Unearned vs Redlands 39.  I think we'll see Redlands win Sat due to Unearned run.

In the end:  CLU wins SCIAC for third year in a row.




Redlands beats PP at home 10-4. Interestingly, Gerics got the start for the Hens and Collins (not Mijarez) started for the Bulldogs. Gerics is a recent addition to the rotation having serviced mainly as their closer this year. He's also been their most consistent pitcher of late.

Redlands jumped out early with five runs in the first inning (only two earned). After that Gerics settled down and didn't give up another run before getting replaced in the 7th. PP managed to scratch together a few runs during that time to make it 5-4. But then the Redlands bats woke up again and scored 5 more runs in the 7th and 8th and to close it out.

Meanwhile, the La Verne offense exploded against Peters and Cal Lu in the fifth and sixth innings to turn a 2-0 deficit into a 10-2 lead. They ended up pulling out the 12-3 win and didn't use a single reliever. Surprising result given how La Verne stumbled into the tournament and how dominant Cal Lu had looked recently.

Tomorrow:
La Verne v. Redlands for a trip to championship Sunday
-Early pitched today for ULV, so I'm assuming they'll go with Iniguez. Redlands likely throws Minjarez. Should be a fun matchup.
PP v. Cal Lu to stay alive
-I'm guessing we'll see Miles tomorrow against Saito. However, Miles was torched last time against Cal Lu, and Saito got handed CLU's one loss in that series. So there's an outside chance we could see Yen (who pitched in PP's win but struggled in his last start) for the Hens and/or Pautsch (who has better overall numbers this year than Saito anyway) for the Kingsmen.

Not that there was much real chance anyway with Whitworth winning the NWC, but I think today definitively closed the door on any SCIAC Pool C hopes.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 01, 2015, 11:51:58 PM
Pretty bad showing for Cal Lu, no other way to put it.  I would thing Pomona goes with Yen since he is a lefty.  My money is on Redlands taking it all home.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on May 02, 2015, 01:56:46 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 01, 2015, 11:51:58 PM
Pretty bad showing for Cal Lu, no other way to put it.  I would thing Pomona goes with Yen since he is a lefty.  My money is on Redlands taking it all home.

Cal Lu dominates PP 10-0.

You were right on Yen, though it looks like it may not have been the best call for PP. He was smacked around for 6 ER in 2 IP before giving way to Miles, who was a tad better (4 ER in 6 IP). Regardless, it's tough to win a game when you don't score any runs yourself. PP managed 8 hits of Saito in 6 innings but couldn't get any runs on the board.

Tough way for the Hens to end their season. But, all things considered, a 28-13 record is something to be proud of. Congrats to the seniors. The faintest of silver linings- at least they can play in the alumni golf tournament tomorrow :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 02, 2015, 08:30:22 PM
Continuing their strong weekend, LV defeated Redlands 5-2 to head into Championship Sunday undefeated.
Redlands then proceeded to lose to CLU 9-3 as CLU sent both PP and Redlands home today.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on May 02, 2015, 08:47:25 PM
Cal Lu seems to like to throw the occasional stinker into the mix and then to follow it up with a pounding of the opponent.  What's up with that?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 02, 2015, 11:01:11 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on May 02, 2015, 08:47:25 PM
Cal Lu seems to like to throw the occasional stinker into the mix and then to follow it up with a pounding of the opponent.  What's up with that?

If they don't win both tomorrow they can only blame themselves.  Looking at the Whittier series is probably the #1 reason they would be left at home.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 02, 2015, 11:35:28 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 02, 2015, 11:01:11 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on May 02, 2015, 08:47:25 PM
Cal Lu seems to like to throw the occasional stinker into the mix and then to follow it up with a pounding of the opponent.  What's up with that?

If they don't win both tomorrow they can only blame themselves.  Looking at the Whittier series is probably the #1 reason they would be left at home.

True.    Whittier series definitely put a huge dent in or deflated any Pool C chances they had.  As did Whitworth surprising win in NWC tourney.
Of course, CLU did beat Whitworth 2x this year; but that's not enough to put them higher in Regional rankings.

We'll see what CLU can do tomorrow.  They are going to have to go deep into bullpen to pull out two wins tomorrow. 
And LV has looked good in their two wins.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on May 03, 2015, 05:05:13 PM
Cal Lutheran three outs away from forcing a winner-take-all game for the SCIAC championship against La Verne. Kingsmen ahead of the Leopards, 14-0, in the bottom of the ninth.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 03, 2015, 05:08:19 PM
CLU broke open a tight 2-0 game after 7 with 6 runs in the 8th and another 6 in 9th.
Freshman Nate Werner 7 shutout innings to get the win.  Final score 14-0.


CLU had their third game with both strong pitching and hitting.  They've given up total of 3 runs in last three games while scoring 23.

One more win to go for them to three-peat SCIAC!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 04, 2015, 03:27:08 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 08, 2015, 08:40:06 PM

I will probably be saying I don't believe in ULV right past the time they finish first and win the conference tourney - which I don't think they can do but just watch them do it now that I've written this.


I still don't believe in them...but what do they care about what I have to say.  Good luck to ULV in the D3 Playoffs, I hope they make some noise...or perhaps I should write about how much they suck, have no chance, and will never get past the first game let alone a sniff at Appleton...just to help them continue to prove me wrong.    ;D

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 04, 2015, 10:15:03 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on May 04, 2015, 03:27:08 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 08, 2015, 08:40:06 PM

I will probably be saying I don't believe in ULV right past the time they finish first and win the conference tourney - which I don't think they can do but just watch them do it now that I've written this.


I still don't believe in them...but what do they care about what I have to say.  Good luck to ULV in the D3 Playoffs, I hope the make some noise...or perhaps I should write about how much they suck, have no chance, and will never get past the first game let alone a sniff at Appleton...just to help them continue to prove me wrong.    ;D

I agree with your lack of belief, but in their three wins their pitching was solid.  Including N Byrd's 7.2 innings of shutout ball in relief during championship game #2.

On Sundays Game 2 their closer Byrd came in during second inning and shutdown CLU for the rest of the game.  CLU couldn't string together enough hits to expand their 2-0 lead and eventually/controversially, LV scored 3 in 7th to take the lead.  A loudly argued safe call on a LV runner at third wiped out the third out and LV promptly capitalized with a 2 run single to take the lead. 

SCIAC sanitized version on their website explained it:   Henley then laced an RBI single to left and the sequence of events that followed would create controversy. A laser to the plate halted Jebbia, the lead runner, and when the player rounding second continued to advance a rundown ensued between both locations, ending with Jebbia and DuBois both diving into third base. The Leopards left fielder was called safe and Woody Reyes promptly drove in two as the visiting team took a 4-2 lead.

As a parent of a senior, you never want umpire mistakes to impact the game... but that's baseball.

Early, Iniquez and Byrd all got wins allowing total of 5 runs in 23.1 innings while Jebbia pitched well in their game 3 before LV's bullpen exploded.  If the 4 pitch as well in Tyler, the SCIAC representative could make some noise.

Good luck to LV. 
 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 04, 2015, 12:18:15 PM
It really is too bad a team with 32 wins is going to be left at home, but you must take care of business and win the auto-bid.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on May 04, 2015, 12:51:18 PM
Is it definite that Cal Lu has no chance at an at large bid?

PLU and Linfield each lost this past weekend.   So that should put a damper on their chances, I would think.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasBB on May 04, 2015, 01:04:17 PM
Cal Lutheran has to be in the running. They have 32 wins and forced a final game in the conference tournament.  Given the losses of PLU and Linfield they have a pretty good story. Trinity's win helped as well. If Centennary had beaten Trinity, then Trinity would have been a top candidate for one of the C spots. The ASC tournament is this weekend. If UTT and CTX make it to the finals then the losere is likely to get one of the at large bids. All things being considered equal, the cost of travel will be a deciding factor. UTT is the host school and CTX is a 5 hour buss drive away.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: infielddad on May 04, 2015, 01:15:29 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on May 04, 2015, 12:51:18 PM
Is it definite that Cal Lu has no chance at an at large bid?

PLU and Linfield each lost this past weekend.   So that should put a damper on their chances, I would think.

Regional selections can be a mystery at times. However, the Regional rankings and SOS suggest Cal Lu won't jump either PLU or Linfield who also had a loss.
Assuming the West is a 6 team, we currently have LaVerne, Trinity and Whitworth in as Pool A, with the ASC winner being the 4th.  Cal Lu's loss to LaVerne is not likely to get them jumped in the Regional rankings over Linfield and PLU even with the latter two having the late season loss. Those two could fill out a rugged West Regional.
If the latter two are selected, there is still a  chance one is sent outside the West.
That is where travel could become a factor so that if both UTT and CTX end up in the ASC Championship game, experience could suggest the loser goes to Tyler based on travel and proximity issues. If one of those two go out early in the ASC, there are South teams to consider for UTT with Rhodes upsetting highly ranked  BSC for the berth and a ranked and strong Millsaps team still sitting out there.
I don't think there is  very much here to suggest Cal Lu goes to UTT but the pending ASC results certainly keep some windows open.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 04, 2015, 01:27:04 PM
Quote from: TexasBB on May 04, 2015, 01:04:17 PM
Cal Lutheran has to be in the running. They have 32 wins and forced a final game in the conference tournament.  Given the losses of PLU and Linfield they have a pretty good story. Trinity's win helped as well. If Centennary had beaten Trinity, then Trinity would have been a top candidate for one of the C spots. The ASC tournament is this weekend. If UTT and CTX make it to the finals then the losere is likely to get one of the at large bids. All things being considered equal, the cost of travel will be a deciding factor. UTT is the host school and CTX is a 5 hour buss drive away.

Currently only 5 teams have more wins, so that is a plus.

Last year, 2 teams shipped into the West.  If national rankings were important, then West with 6 of the top 25, would reflect the overall strength of the West region.

Question:  when determining Pool C candidates, I keep hearing that only Regional rankings are important.

But what criteria is used to decide if "top" regional Pool C candidate should stay in region or should ship to another region... bumping a lower Regional ranking team out of their region.   What decides if #3 West is better Pool C candidate than #3 Wisconsin or SE or NE?

IE... last year Chapman had 30 wins and was Regionally ranked, but they stayed home and teams from other regions were put in the West.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Westside on May 04, 2015, 01:51:58 PM
There is no way Cal Lu jumps anyone in the West Region for a Pool C bid. If anything, they drop even more after this weekend. Let's take a quick look at what went down this last weekend:

PLU went 2-1 this weekend with a win over a team that is ranked #3 in the region.

Linfield went 2-1 this weekend with an extra-inning loss to a team that is ranked #1 in the region.

Cal Lu went 3-2 this weekend with two losses to a team that barely finished .500.




I don't see any way that Cal Lu gets over those two teams.

This year was as low as the SCIAC has been in some time, with no really dominant team. It has been a 1-bid league all season long.

Congrats and best of luck to La Verne is representing the SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 04, 2015, 02:09:16 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on May 04, 2015, 01:27:04 PM
Quote from: TexasBB on May 04, 2015, 01:04:17 PM
Cal Lutheran has to be in the running. They have 32 wins and forced a final game in the conference tournament.  Given the losses of PLU and Linfield they have a pretty good story. Trinity's win helped as well. If Centennary had beaten Trinity, then Trinity would have been a top candidate for one of the C spots. The ASC tournament is this weekend. If UTT and CTX make it to the finals then the losere is likely to get one of the at large bids. All things being considered equal, the cost of travel will be a deciding factor. UTT is the host school and CTX is a 5 hour buss drive away.

Currently only 5 teams have more wins, so that is a plus.

Last year, 2 teams shipped into the West.  If national rankings were important, then West with 6 of the top 25, would reflect the overall strength of the West region.

Question:  when determining Pool C candidates, I keep hearing that only Regional rankings are important.

But what criteria is used to decide if "top" regional Pool C candidate should stay in region or should ship to another region... bumping a lower Regional ranking team out of their region.   What decides if #3 West is better Pool C candidate than #3 Wisconsin or SE or NE?

IE... last year Chapman had 30 wins and was Regionally ranked, but they stayed home and teams from other regions were put in the West.


I am not completely sure that I am correct on this, but from what I have heard discussed, is that the National Committee  take the final secret rankings, decided by the Regional Committee, and make any corrections where they feel the regional committees may have made a mistake. The top team, who did not get a pool A bid, are up against the top teams from other regional rankings. They compare the teams based on the primary criteria. See bullet point 5.

http://www.d3baseball.com/interactive/faq/ncaaTournament

As teams are selected the they are removed from the board and the teams below them in the region are moved up and the comparison starts again. So in the second round a number 2 ranked team is compared to the others left from the first round. And so on and so forth until all bids are selected.

Where teams are shipped has a lot to do with the 500 mile radius. If a team is over 500 miles from the site where they will compete in a regional, the NCAA will fly them to the location. Otherwise the NCAA will pay for a bus trip. Where teams are sent is largely based on saving money and not competition. The NCAA will do their best to keep the number of flights down. With the West regional in Tyler, that may not bode well for NWC teams. For Cal Lu that is 1500 Miles, and even farther for the NWC teams. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 04, 2015, 02:19:09 PM
There is no way the NCAA is going to spring for a flight when the team being considered is #5 in the regional rankings.  If UTT doesn't win the ASC there is no way they would ship them somewhere else.  I would be absolutely shocked to see Cal Lu playing next week.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 04, 2015, 02:19:50 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 04, 2015, 01:51:58 PM
There is no way Cal Lu jumps anyone in the West Region for a Pool C bid. If anything, they drop even more after this weekend. Let's take a quick look at what went down this last weekend:

PLU went 2-1 this weekend with a win over a team that is ranked #3 in the region.

Linfield went 2-1 this weekend with an extra-inning loss to a team that is ranked #1 in the region.

Cal Lu went 3-2 this weekend with two losses to a team that barely finished .500.





I don't see any way that Cal Lu gets over those two teams.

This year was as low as the SCIAC has been in some time, with no really dominant team. It has been a 1-bid league all season long.

Congrats and best of luck to La Verne is representing the SCIAC.

or, CLU lost only to SCIAC champions.
and PLU and Linfield lost to NWC non-champions.
and CLU is undefeated against NWC champion... 2-0.
(Tongue-in-cheek)

Thanks Bishop for the explanation.  Sounds like the initial final super secret rankings holds the key
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 04, 2015, 02:23:38 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 04, 2015, 02:19:09 PM
There is no way the NCAA is going to spring for a flight when the team being considered is #5 in the regional rankings.  If UTT doesn't win the ASC there is no way they would ship them somewhere else.  I would be absolutely shocked to see Cal Lu playing next week.

I agree.  I just wonder what they'll do with PLU and Linfield.  Only one can go to West.

So, once we agree that West could have more than 2 teams qualified for Pool C, then the Region-vs-Region comparisons become very important for deciding to send teams out of region...

It will be interesting on the 10th to see what the committee decides.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 04, 2015, 02:24:37 PM
No problem, hope I helped. No offense to Cal Lu, or do I think OWU would deserve it, but I believe that with the penny pinching we can expect from the NCAA that OWU has just as good of a chance being sent to UT. They are 500 miles closer to UT than CLU. ;)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on May 04, 2015, 02:37:33 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 04, 2015, 01:51:58 PM
There is no way Cal Lu jumps anyone in the West Region for a Pool C bid. If anything, they drop even more after this weekend. Let's take a quick look at what went down this last weekend:
....
PLU went 2-1 this weekend with a win over a team that is ranked #3 in the region.
.....


losing to a team that is not even .500.

How's that support a move up?  Count only the wins and discount the loss?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 04, 2015, 02:59:49 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on May 04, 2015, 02:37:33 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 04, 2015, 01:51:58 PM
There is no way Cal Lu jumps anyone in the West Region for a Pool C bid. If anything, they drop even more after this weekend. Let's take a quick look at what went down this last weekend:
....
PLU went 2-1 this weekend with a win over a team that is ranked #3 in the region.
.....


losing to a team that is not even .500.

How's that support a move up?  Count only the wins and discount the loss?
Heck, PLU lost to a team that was 0-1 against CLU.
and lost 2x in NWC conference to a team that was 0-2 against CLU.

PLU has lost 3 of last 6; 
Linfield has lost 4 of last 7.
CLU won 12 of last 15; losing only to LV... SCIAC champion in that stretch (and beating them 2x)


But, it obvious that PLU and Linfield have been highly considered all year.  I expect that will get them Pool C bids.

But, as opined last week.. sending them to Midwest makes as much financial sense as sending them to Tyler texas.
So... then apparently it comes to do How do #1 Pool C's in each region compare, then #2 in strongest vs #1's in others.. etc.. etc.. etc..

I think ASC will get one Pool C bid; at least one NWC will ship out to another region.
But, I've been wrong every week.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Westside on May 04, 2015, 03:04:40 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on May 04, 2015, 02:37:33 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 04, 2015, 01:51:58 PM
There is no way Cal Lu jumps anyone in the West Region for a Pool C bid. If anything, they drop even more after this weekend. Let's take a quick look at what went down this last weekend:
....
PLU went 2-1 this weekend with a win over a team that is ranked #3 in the region.
.....


losing to a team that is not even .500.

How's that support a move up?  Count only the wins and discount the loss?

I am confused. What move up? My point is how could the #1 team in the West Region (PLU) lose one game to a bad team (record wise) and drop below the #5 team in the West Region (Cal Lu). Especially when the #5 team lost two games to a bad team (record wise) in the same weekend, and the #1 team beat the #3 team (Linfield).

Hope that makes more sense.

Note: I assume "losing to a team that is not even .500" means Puget Sound. They were actually 18-17 against D3 teams  :P
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasBB on May 04, 2015, 03:07:59 PM
PLU lost to Pugent Sound this weekend who is 19-20 on the season. (I believe that consititutes a loosing record LOL.) PLU was the top ranked team in the Region last week. That loss will not help them and they will fall from the top. Things remain fluid until the ASC tournament is decided.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on May 04, 2015, 03:16:22 PM
I do know one thing, if Linfield gets in, Haddeland could really use the week off next week, I'm sure.  He has thrown 275 innings over the last 15 months. (116 last season, 60 last summer in the West Coast League, 99 so far this year)  Can you say "Workhorse"!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on May 04, 2015, 03:35:27 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on May 04, 2015, 02:59:49 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on May 04, 2015, 02:37:33 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 04, 2015, 01:51:58 PM
There is no way Cal Lu jumps anyone in the West Region for a Pool C bid. If anything, they drop even more after this weekend. Let's take a quick look at what went down this last weekend:
....
PLU went 2-1 this weekend with a win over a team that is ranked #3 in the region.
.....


losing to a team that is not even .500.

How's that support a move up?  Count only the wins and discount the loss?
Heck, PLU lost to a team that was 0-1 against CLU.
and lost 2x in NWC conference to a team that was 0-2 against CLU.

PLU has lost 3 of last 6; 
Linfield has lost 4 of last 7.
CLU won 12 of last 15; losing only to LV... SCIAC champion in that stretch (and beating them 2x)


But, it obvious that PLU and Linfield have been highly considered all year.  I expect that will get them Pool C bids.

But, as opined last week.. sending them to Midwest makes as much financial sense as sending them to Tyler texas.
So... then apparently it comes to do How do #1 Pool C's in each region compare, then #2 in strongest vs #1's in others.. etc.. etc.. etc..

I think ASC will get one Pool C bid; at least one NWC will ship out to another region.
But, I've been wrong every week.

We can play around with this stuff all day....
Pacific went 3-9 in conference play this year versus Fox, Whitworth, Linfield and PLU (the 4 NWC conference participants), yet Pacific traveled to La Verne (The SCIAC champion) this season and took 3 out of 4 games....
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 05, 2015, 02:06:56 AM
I think SCIAC folks are well aware,
that despite NWC teams recent mediocre records against each other,
their previous SOS and records will result in one or more POOL C coming from NWC.


As West folks, we want as many NWC teams in the Pool C as possible.  But as West Folks, we also want as many Pool C from all conferences as possible. 
Since Pool C is a battle of regions (not conferences), the more viable West Pool C teams as possible, the better.


SO, given ASC, NWC, SCIAC champions didn't come from Regional top 6; it does benefit the region if the regular season winners are rated higher than the tourney winners.... it improves chances of West teams beating out other regions in Pool C ratings.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 05, 2015, 08:41:39 PM
I think, among the factors that keeps CLU at home, the 2-1 series loss which includes a home loss to Whittier weighs like oversize luggage preventing their travel plans.  They can't unhitch from that in the argument against.

I find that to be a bright spot in an otherwise throw-it-out season.  8-)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 05, 2015, 10:39:58 PM
CLU will be home as PLU is ranked much higher than them and will likely get an at large, then you have UTT and CTX both ranked higher and one of those will likely win their conference and the other will likely get the other bid. If one of those drop out you have Birmingham Southern that is very highly ranked and they can be bused in.

My guess is that the West will be (not in any particular order):

CTX
UTT
PLU
Trinity
LaVerne
Whitworth


In many ways seeding won't matter too much as teams will face some very good pitching regardless who they face. The real challenge comes after this.

UTT has a great facility and field.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 15, 2015, 03:55:31 PM
So...the 4th place SCIAC team put 1 of the 2 on each of the "2 and a BBQ" UT-T and NWC Tourney Champ Whitworth...

Go ULV, Go SCIAC...

Rooting for SCIAC and NWC teams otherwise, would like to see PacLu emerge from their regional.

Millsaps and Trinity must be stopped out west - one if them will get a loss today.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 15, 2015, 04:07:48 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on May 15, 2015, 03:55:31 PM
So...the 4th place SCIAC team put 1 of the 2 on each of the "2 and a BBQ" UT-T and NWC Tourney Champ Whitworth...

Go ULV, Go SCIAC...

Rooting for SCIAC and NWC teams otherwise, would like to see PacLu emerge from their regional.

Millsaps and Trinity must be stopped out west - one if them will get a loss today.

Great job by LV to go 2-0;
I'm rooting for Trinity to be in finals with LV.

And, PLU is 2-0 and only undefeated team in South Region.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on May 15, 2015, 05:48:40 PM
It would be nice for Trinity to break through to the championships for a change.    Yes, I'm biased.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on June 11, 2015, 11:27:37 AM
Congratulations to Whittier catcher Zavala on being drafted by the Cardinals!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: infielddad on July 04, 2015, 04:07:49 PM
It will be interesting to see what this might mean for the future of the baseball program at Claremont Mudd Scripps:

Cornell Head Coach Walkenbach has resigned and  has been named HC at Claremont Mudd Scripps.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on July 05, 2015, 05:36:29 PM
I think it is a huge upgrade for CMS and it will be interesting to see if the program upgrades the facilities as well to compete with some of the SCIAC schools. Good hire IMO.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on July 07, 2015, 08:25:41 PM
Certainly an interesting career move...doesn't look like he was r-u-n-n-o-f-teed out of town at Cornell.  Looks like this is a family oriented move too.  Good for him.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on July 07, 2015, 08:29:15 PM
Interesting season his team had...held the lead over then #1 UVA, losing 4-3...losing 7-2 to NAIA Huntington.

Baseball is a funny game.  And by funny I mean cruel and heartless.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on July 07, 2015, 09:34:30 PM
I agree with everyone who thinks this is a good hire.  I know absolutely nothing about the guy but CMS needs a culture change immediately. The CMS program is one that has not made any progress in a long time.  OXY has made a lot of progress over the past few years, Whittier has shown glimpses of turning it around (ahem, Purple Heys), Redlands is going to be solid next year and Caltech's guy is doing all he can to turn that program around.  The top-teams seem like they will be around for a while and Chapman will certainly be back sooner than later.  Hopefully CMS will make the SCIAC a better conference in the near future.

The field is nice but they could easily make it more of a "stadium" feel.  I know they are upgrading their other facilities so maybe it will happen for baseball as well.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 07, 2015, 10:52:37 PM
From what I understand,  he was not run off, but it was clear that his contract was not TN going to be renewed, when it was up. He always wanted to come back and coach at CMS, and this was a good opportunity. This was discussed over at Hsbaseballweb.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on July 09, 2015, 03:24:00 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on July 07, 2015, 10:52:37 PM
From what I understand,  he was not run off, but it was clear that his contract was not TN going to be renewed, when it was up. He always wanted to come back and coach at CMS, and this was a good opportunity. This was discussed over at Hsbaseballweb.

Good info, thanks.  My wife grew up in Claremont, it's a tight community, good schools, and the folks I know from there have their roots sunk deep.  I could see why someone from Claremont would take the opportunity to get back.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on September 08, 2015, 06:04:00 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on July 07, 2015, 09:34:30 PM
I agree with everyone who thinks this is a good hire.  I know absolutely nothing about the guy but CMS needs a culture change immediately. The CMS program is one that has not made any progress in a long time.  OXY has made a lot of progress over the past few years, Whittier has shown glimpses of turning it around (ahem, Purple Heys), Redlands is going to be solid next year and Caltech's guy is doing all he can to turn that program around.  The top-teams seem like they will be around for a while and Chapman will certainly be back sooner than later.  Hopefully CMS will make the SCIAC a better conference in the near future.

The field is nice but they could easily make it more of a "stadium" feel.  I know they are upgrading their other facilities so maybe it will happen for baseball as well.

Great points. This is huge for a school that values athletics and SHOULD be able to recruit well and perform well. Getting a D1 head coach will give them a definite boost. I'm sure it will be significant in the short term- better program structure on and off the field, getting guys to really buy into the program- and the long term as the improved recruiting begins to pay dividends.

And since I'm too petty to have a post solely concerning the bright future of the CMS baseball program...

Two Sagehens have accepted invitations to play in the Cape Cod league next summer after having great summer seasons this year in quality leagues. Congrats to Tanner Nishioka who hit .363 in the Alaskan League, good for second overall and getting him the Silver Slugger award, and David Gerics who had a 3.24 ERA in the Futures Collegiate league and I've heard has made impressive velocity gains this summer.

Press Release: http://pe.pomona.edu/sports/bsb/2015-16/releases/20150908fck6p9 (http://pe.pomona.edu/sports/bsb/2015-16/releases/20150908fck6p9)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on September 14, 2015, 03:57:18 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on September 08, 2015, 06:04:00 PM
Two Sagehens have accepted invitations to play in the Cape Cod league next summer after having great summer seasons this year in quality leagues. Congrats to Tanner Nishioka who hit .363 in the Alaskan League, good for second overall and getting him the Silver Slugger award, and David Gerics who had a 3.24 ERA in the Futures Collegiate league and I've heard has made impressive velocity gains this summer.

Press Release: http://pe.pomona.edu/sports/bsb/2015-16/releases/20150908fck6p9 (http://pe.pomona.edu/sports/bsb/2015-16/releases/20150908fck6p9)

Pomona's Press release needs an edit...mentions Nishioka played in the Alaskan Basketball League.  :o   Unless that was his 3-point shooting percentage too... ;)

Congrats to both young men.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purplebaseball on November 23, 2015, 01:07:52 PM
OK..purple hays we are getting close baseball time!  How is Whittier looking this year?  I heard the starting 2nd basemen for the last 2 yrs Gram Primm left and went to OXY? 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on November 23, 2015, 07:25:38 PM
Quote from: Purplebaseball on November 23, 2015, 01:07:52 PM
OK..purple hays we are getting close baseball time!  How is Whittier looking this year?  I heard the starting 2nd basemen for the last 2 yrs Gram Primm left and went to OXY?

Whittier conducted team tryouts this past weekend.  I wonder what the schedule for that is for the other SCIAC teams.  Anyone? Anyone?  Bueller?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on November 23, 2015, 07:29:41 PM
Quote from: Purplebaseball on November 23, 2015, 01:07:52 PM
OK..purple hays we are getting close baseball time!  How is Whittier looking this year?  I heard the starting 2nd basemen for the last 2 yrs Gram Primm left and went to OXY?

Pimm's gone.  That's D3.  Nice kid, wish him the best...until he plays WC then he's just somebody on the other side we're trying to get out.

Can't waste too much time worrying about who you don't have.  Although replacing Zavala at catcher is sure to keep Coach Rizzo up late for the time being.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on December 18, 2015, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on December 17, 2015, 01:40:46 PM

I think the SCIAC is going be be very tough at the top this year and the top of the NWC is pretty darn solid.  Should be a great regional in Spokane.


I think it's going to be a fun year this season.  The top SCIAC teams are going to slug it out.  In the middle, we'll see how much of a bite any of these middle teams can take out of the top teams to tilt the race, as well as battle amongst themselves for best of the rest.  Then you have Cal Tech, who appears to be moving closer to a conference win.

I will be surprised if any team runs away with it.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on December 18, 2015, 04:52:01 PM
I agree, no team really seems like they will run away with it but I think this will be the strongest the SCIAC has been in years.  Some highlights the schedule....

La Verne looks like they put together a good schedule.  Opening up with a trip to AZ to play PLU and Linfield, plus another AZ trip later in the year for more games.  PLU visits La Verne for a pair of games in April.  Awesome.

PLU will also play 1 against Pomona and 1 against Cal Lu.

Chapman opens with an average ETBU team and then hits the road to Texas for 3 games.  They also have a pair with Webster and 1 with Ithaca.  Not too shabby.

Pomona starts out with 4 in Texas which is great to see them traveling.  They also have Pacific coming down for a series later in the year.

Whittier has Whitworth coming to town to open up after Whitworth opens with a single game against Cal Lu.

OXY really needs to dump the idea of playing Bethesda and La Sierra, those games do absolutely nothing for them.  They do get Willamette and Puget Sound for a series and a series with Rutgers-Newark but a really average non-conference schedule all around.

Looks like Redlands will be in AZ with La Verne at the same time and will get 2 with PLU and 2 with Linfield.  They have a single game with Webster, Ithaca and Puget Sound.  Really like seeing the teams going to AZ.

I'll give Claremont a pass this year but the non-conference portion is pretty bad.  La Sierra, Univ of Antelope Valley and Rutgers-Newark...hope that changes next year.

Caltech headed to AZ again for spring break but not much to mention for them.  Is this the year they win a SCIAC game???

No schedule for Cal Lu yet but it looks like they are headed to TX at the beginning of the year after a single game with Whitworth.

I like a lot of the games these teams have set up.  Good to see a lot of games with the top teams from the NWC and some other regions.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on December 22, 2015, 05:47:58 PM
Schedule for Cal Lu

Hendrix is not in Arizona (unless it is not D3)

   http://www.clusports.com/baseball/schedule/
   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on December 24, 2015, 08:54:20 AM
Cal Lu is on a mission this year.  They are taking two trips this year -- one to Texas and one to Arizona in order to  increase their strength of schedule, just in case they have to rely on an at large bid again to get them to the regionals.   They feel as though strength of schedule is what did them in last year -- besides, of course, dropping the conference championship game to La Verne.   Finding a starting catcher will be the key for them and having some new members of the pitching staff step up.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 24, 2015, 10:25:17 AM
Good to see Cal Lu doing something to improve their chances. My new favorite team in the sciac.
Good luck this season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on December 29, 2015, 03:26:30 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on December 24, 2015, 08:54:20 AM
"Cal Lu is on a mission this year...Finding a starting catcher will be the key for them..."

I think Redlands, Whittier, Oxy, and CLU graduated their starting catchers and all were, respectively, outstanding players.  So, in addition to those four, who else is opening 2016 with a new backstop?  Will this lead to an increase of stolen bases over the course of the season?  Interesting sub-plot...



Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on December 30, 2015, 06:03:23 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on December 24, 2015, 08:54:20 AM
Cal Lu is on a mission this year.  They are taking two trips this year -- one to Texas and one to Arizona in order to  increase their strength of schedule, just in case they have to rely on an at large bid again to get them to the regionals.   They feel as though strength of schedule is what did them in last year -- besides, of course, dropping the conference championship game to La Verne.   Finding a starting catcher will be the key for them and having some new members of the pitching staff step up.

Agree with SluggerDad.   CLU looking to eliminate SOS as a barrier to selection.    Their key departure is the catching and one starting pitcher.
CLU hitting should be strong again this year, again.   Their undergrad pitchers ended last year strong.  If they all returned Kiyabu, Peterson, Pautsch and Werner should be key contributors.
I haven't heard how the Transfers look.  I believe Slimak focused on adding a pitcher and replacing the two catchers that graduated. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on December 30, 2015, 07:49:10 PM
 I gather 4 or 5 frosh and at least one JC transfer were brought in to compete at catcher.  There are also two returning catchers, one whom is last year's number 2 starter.   You would think they should be able to find a credible starter from that crew, though maybe not one up to the one they lost.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 07, 2016, 03:41:44 PM
El Nino may reek some real havoc here in SoCal this season...  :o
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 07, 2016, 05:34:33 PM
welcome to spring baseball as the rest of the Country, knows it. I hope it is not bad thoigh. It is always tough fof the seniors, when weather plays havoc on tjeir last season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 07, 2016, 08:51:33 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on January 07, 2016, 05:34:33 PM
welcome to spring baseball as the rest of the Country, knows it. I hope it is not bad thoigh. It is always tough fof the seniors, when weather plays havoc on tjeir last season.

Well played, sir.   ;)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 14, 2016, 03:11:08 PM
No SCIAC Pre-Season AA's this year but plenty of guys that will have an impact.  Thought's on who the top guys are returning?  I'll post my All SCIAC Pre-Season team later tonight or tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 15, 2016, 09:32:05 AM
As I have said before, I think this is going to be a dogfight for the top 4 spots in the SCIAC this year.  There are a lot of very good returning players but with no rosters it's kind of tough to know exactly who will be where and if more guys left than expected.  These are the official (VERY UNOFFICIAL) players that make up my pre-season all SCIAC team.  Feel free to give me your thought.

IF- Kyle Sanchez- CLU
IF- Tyler Cook- Chapman
IF- Ben White- ULV
IF- John Wiehe- Chapman
OF- Tanner Nishioka- Pomona
OF- Ramsey Abushala- CLU
OF- Trey Smith- CMS
OF- Forrest Wiederman- Chapman
C- Evan Opperman- CMS
P- Matt Smith- Chapman
P- Feliz Minjarez- Redlands
P- Nick Byrd- ULV
P- Brett Early- ULV
UTIL- Simon Rosenbaum- PP

I saw the chatter about the catcher position earlier but didn't think much of it until I started looking deeper.  Yikes, there are some big holes to fill!

I'm sure there are some names that should be on here but these are the guys I really see having good years.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Westside on January 15, 2016, 09:49:29 AM
Love the list.

I don't follow the SCIAC as closely, but the only person I would add would be Tanner Nishioka from PP. His numbers jump off the page and his invite to the Cape Code League seem like an official stamp of legitimacy. I expect him to have a huge junior season.

2015 - .329 BA, 5 HR, 39 RBI, 22 SB
2014 - .399 BA, 6 HR, 38 RBI, 40 R

Which four teams are you expecting to contend for the top spots? ULV, CLU, Redlands, Chapman?

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 15, 2016, 10:39:20 AM
Quote from: Westside on January 15, 2016, 09:49:29 AM
Love the list.

I don't follow the SCIAC as closely, but the only person I would add would be Tanner Nishioka from PP. His numbers jump off the page and his invite to the Cape Code League seem like an official stamp of legitimacy. I expect him to have a huge junior season.

2015 - .329 BA, 5 HR, 39 RBI, 22 SB
2014 - .399 BA, 6 HR, 38 RBI, 40 R

Which four teams are you expecting to contend for the top spots? ULV, CLU, Redlands, Chapman?

Crud, I meant Nishioka and not Okuma (fixed it).  Okuma was a senior in 2015.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 15, 2016, 10:46:22 AM
Quote from: Westside on January 15, 2016, 09:49:29 AM


Which four teams are you expecting to contend for the top spots? ULV, CLU, Redlands, Chapman?

That's a very tough one right now as I think there are a lot of question marks for everyone in the SCIAC.  I do think CLU will be the most "rounded" team with a very good offense.  I think ULV saved a good time to have a great weekend in the SCIAC tourney and they lost 4 key parts of their offense.  Chapman just isn't the same as they once were but this year could be different.  They were very young last year.  Redland's should be a VERY tough team to get past with a few really good arms leading the way.  Pomona should be solid but they lost some key guys as well.  If I had to take a shot at the final regular season standings heading into the SCIAC Tourney I would line them up like this...

1. Redlands
2. CLU
3. La Verne
4. Pomona
5. Chapman
6. OXY
7. Claremont
8. Whittier
9. Catech
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on January 15, 2016, 07:47:12 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on January 15, 2016, 09:32:05 AM
As I have said before, I think this is going to be a dogfight for the top 4 spots in the SCIAC this year.  There are a lot of very good returning players but with no rosters it's kind of tough to know exactly who will be where and if more guys left than expected.  These are the official (VERY UNOFFICIAL) players that make up my pre-season all SCIAC team.  Feel free to give me your thought.

IF- Kyle Sanchez- CLU
IF- Tyler Cook- Chapman
IF- Ben White- ULV
IF- John Wiehe- Chapman
OF- Tanner Nishioka- Pomona
OF- Ramsey Abushala- CLU
OF- Trey Smith- CMS
OF- Forrest Wiederman- Chapman
C- Evan Opperman- CMS
P- Matt Smith- Chapman
P- Feliz Minjarez- Redlands
P- Nick Byrd- ULV
P- Brett Early- ULV
UTIL- Simon Rosenbaum- PP

I saw the chatter about the catcher position earlier but didn't think much of it until I started looking deeper.  Yikes, there are some big holes to fill!

I'm sure there are some names that should be on here but these are the guys I really see having good years.

Kyle Sanchez left Cal Lu and is now playing for Berkeley.   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 16, 2016, 04:48:42 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on January 15, 2016, 07:47:12 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on January 15, 2016, 09:32:05 AM
As I have said before, I think this is going to be a dogfight for the top 4 spots in the SCIAC this year.  There are a lot of very good returning players but with no rosters it's kind of tough to know exactly who will be where and if more guys left than expected.  These are the official (VERY UNOFFICIAL) players that make up my pre-season all SCIAC team.  Feel free to give me your thought.

IF- Kyle Sanchez- CLU
IF- Tyler Cook- Chapman
IF- Ben White- ULV
IF- John Wiehe- Chapman
OF- Tanner Nishioka- Pomona
OF- Ramsey Abushala- CLU
OF- Trey Smith- CMS
OF- Forrest Wiederman- Chapman
C- Evan Opperman- CMS
P- Matt Smith- Chapman
P- Feliz Minjarez- Redlands
P- Nick Byrd- ULV
P- Brett Early- ULV
UTIL- Simon Rosenbaum- PP

I saw the chatter about the catcher position earlier but didn't think much of it until I started looking deeper.  Yikes, there are some big holes to fill!

I'm sure there are some names that should be on here but these are the guys I really see having good years.

Kyle Sanchez left Cal Lu and is now playing for Berkeley.   

Oof!  That's a big loss for CLU.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purplebaseball on January 17, 2016, 03:02:54 PM
Well Purple Heys Whittier has posted its 2016 roster.  What are thoughts, concerns or surprises going into the season? http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2015-16/roster
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 18, 2016, 12:38:29 PM
Quote from: Purplebaseball on January 17, 2016, 03:02:54 PM
Well Purple Heys Whittier has posted its 2016 roster.  What are thoughts, concerns or surprises going into the season? http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2015-16/roster

Several kids got bigger.  I hope we will be better.  Who steps it up?  Time will tell.  I know nothing about the new guys.  We need to replace Stevie...curious as to who that will be.   :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purplebaseball on January 18, 2016, 01:07:33 PM
Yes Ph I noticed that also.  Looks like some guys put on some lbs!  They added a lot of new arms and it looks like Rizzo change some of the positions the guys are playing compared to last year.  It looks like we will be a young team again this year so the returners are going to need to step it up a level or two!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on January 18, 2016, 04:49:04 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on January 16, 2016, 04:48:42 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on January 15, 2016, 07:47:12 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on January 15, 2016, 09:32:05 AM
As I have said before, I think this is going to be a dogfight for the top 4 spots in the SCIAC this year.  There are a lot of very good returning players but with no rosters it's kind of tough to know exactly who will be where and if more guys left than expected.  These are the official (VERY UNOFFICIAL) players that make up my pre-season all SCIAC team.  Feel free to give me your thought.

IF- Kyle Sanchez- CLU
IF- Tyler Cook- Chapman
IF- Ben White- ULV
IF- John Wiehe- Chapman
OF- Tanner Nishioka- Pomona
OF- Ramsey Abushala- CLU
OF- Trey Smith- CMS
OF- Forrest Wiederman- Chapman
C- Evan Opperman- CMS
P- Matt Smith- Chapman
P- Feliz Minjarez- Redlands
P- Nick Byrd- ULV
P- Brett Early- ULV
UTIL- Simon Rosenbaum- PP

I saw the chatter about the catcher position earlier but didn't think much of it until I started looking deeper.  Yikes, there are some big holes to fill!

I'm sure there are some names that should be on here but these are the guys I really see having good years.

Kyle Sanchez left Cal Lu and is now playing for Berkeley.   

Oof!  That's a big loss for CLU.

Definitely.  That kid tore it up in the California Collegiate League this past summer.   Certainly would have been a big presence in a D3 lineup.  But the Cal Lu offense should definitely be a strength his year still.   They've got some seniors who have been serious contributors for four years.   Word is that  up to three of them may draw some draft interest this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 19, 2016, 06:25:15 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on January 18, 2016, 04:49:04 PM
Word is that up to three of them may draw some draft interest this year.

That'd be cool to see...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 22, 2016, 02:00:52 PM
Preseason Practice is in full swing for all SCIAC teams right?  Kinda quiet around these parts.  Aren't any of you dads excited for the upcoming season?  How about you grumpy ex-players?   ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on January 23, 2016, 03:03:25 PM
I'm excited to see how good my son's school team really is.   They have set themselves lofty goals.   Coaches are telling themselves they have the talent to win it all this year.  We shall see.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on January 23, 2016, 03:11:43 PM
I'm also looking forward to seeing if he can work his way up the depth chart, with the plethora of upperclassmen ahead of him.  Will be a big challenge.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 23, 2016, 04:22:17 PM
Sluggerdad, I wish your son the best. Good luck this season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purplebaseball on January 23, 2016, 08:28:05 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on January 22, 2016, 02:00:52 PM
Preseason Practice is in full swing for all SCIAC teams right?  Kinda quiet around these parts.  Aren't any of you dads excited for the upcoming season?  How about you grumpy ex-players?   ;D

Purple Heys I heard Whittier had a scrimmage open to the parents today.  Did you attend?  Unfortunately I was out of town.  If so how did they look?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 24, 2016, 12:55:11 AM
Quote from: Purplebaseball on January 23, 2016, 08:28:05 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on January 22, 2016, 02:00:52 PM
Preseason Practice is in full swing for all SCIAC teams right?  Kinda quiet around these parts.  Aren't any of you dads excited for the upcoming season?  How about you grumpy ex-players?   ;D

Purple Heys I heard Whittier had a scrimmage open to the parents today.  Did you attend?  Unfortunately I was out of town.  If so how did they look?

I did go and now I owe some money for the hit-a-thon, but it was a fun event and an entertaining fundraiser.

The team seems to have good esprit de corp, which is a positive. I'm excited to see how this plays out.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on January 27, 2016, 09:27:30 AM
Was looking at some SCIAC Rosters just for comparison sake -- not that they are all up, but I noticed that Pomona-Pritzer has not a single freshman on their roster.  I'm thinking that must be an incomplete roster and that they have just not yet decided which freshmen have made the team.  I don't think they have a JV team to put frosh on.  Or maybe they're starting one.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Appalachian Mtns on January 27, 2016, 09:41:44 AM
New parent to the SCIAC baseball world this year.

I know that it is early and circumstances will change pitching rotations, but can those familiar with a specific program rate the top pitchers from #1 to #6 or so, and whether they are RHP, LHP, solely weekend starters, or mid-week starters, relievers, closers, hybrids, etc.

I am sure there are situations where the #1 and #2 will be considered 1A and 1B, but if willing, please give me your pre-season opinion to #1, #2, #3, etc.   I am hoping to know the top pitchers for each SCIAC team based on compiling the information from your individual knowledge of each team.  If you have an opinion on more than one team, please share that too.

If too onerous, I understand that as well.

Looking forward to getting to know the players and teams in the SCIAC, and it looks like this might be the best forum to get that information.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 27, 2016, 01:05:34 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on January 27, 2016, 09:27:30 AM
Was looking at some SCIAC Rosters just for comparison sake -- not that they are all up, but I noticed that Pomona-Pritzer has not a single freshman on their roster.  I'm thinking that must be an incomplete roster and that they have just not yet decided which freshmen have made the team.  I don't think they have a JV team to put frosh on.  Or maybe they're starting one.

Seems rather odd to have no freshman. Maybe they will be adding them soon...freshman players and new incoming transfers seem to get their mugshots and bios added last.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Westside on January 27, 2016, 01:26:15 PM
Quote from: Appalachian Mtns on January 27, 2016, 09:41:44 AM
New parent to the SCIAC baseball world this year.

I know that it is early and circumstances will change pitching rotations, but can those familiar with a specific program rate the top pitchers from #1 to #6 or so, and whether they are RHP, LHP, solely weekend starters, or mid-week starters, relievers, closers, hybrids, etc.

I am sure there are situations where the #1 and #2 will be considered 1A and 1B, but if willing, please give me your pre-season opinion to #1, #2, #3, etc.   I am hoping to know the top pitchers for each SCIAC team based on compiling the information from your individual knowledge of each team.  If you have an opinion on more than one team, please share that too.

If too onerous, I understand that as well.

Looking forward to getting to know the players and teams in the SCIAC, and it looks like this might be the best forum to get that information.

I think that Redlands is pretty easy to figure out since they only had one senior on last year's roster. Barring any newcomers that steal the show this year, or transfers I don't know of, they should look like:

Starters:
#1 RHP Felix Minjarez (So.)
#2 RHP Matthew Acosta (So.)
#3 RHP Michael Collins (Sr.)

Hybrid (Starter/Reliever):
#1 LHP Noah Jones (So.)

Relievers:
#1 RHP John White (Jr.)
#2 RHP Adam Stead (So.)

They have a ton of underclassmen that will get the majority of the innings. So they should make a big leap from last year to this year.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on January 27, 2016, 10:19:49 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on January 27, 2016, 01:05:34 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on January 27, 2016, 09:27:30 AM
Was looking at some SCIAC Rosters just for comparison sake -- not that they are all up, but I noticed that Pomona-Pritzer has not a single freshman on their roster.  I'm thinking that must be an incomplete roster and that they have just not yet decided which freshmen have made the team.  I don't think they have a JV team to put frosh on.  Or maybe they're starting one.

Seems rather odd to have no freshman. Maybe they will be adding them soon...freshman players and new incoming transfers seem to get their mugshots and bios added last.

Yeah I'm assuming it's something like that.  Would be unbelievable for them not to have a single freshman rostered.   I actually know a kid who I fully expect to be on the roster.  A HS teammate of my son's.  Very strong player.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on January 28, 2016, 05:29:04 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on January 27, 2016, 10:19:49 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on January 27, 2016, 01:05:34 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on January 27, 2016, 09:27:30 AM
Was looking at some SCIAC Rosters just for comparison sake -- not that they are all up, but I noticed that Pomona-Pritzer has not a single freshman on their roster.  I'm thinking that must be an incomplete roster and that they have just not yet decided which freshmen have made the team.  I don't think they have a JV team to put frosh on.  Or maybe they're starting one.

Seems rather odd to have no freshman. Maybe they will be adding them soon...freshman players and new incoming transfers seem to get their mugshots and bios added last.

Yeah I'm assuming it's something like that.  Would be unbelievable for them not to have a single freshman rostered.   I actually know a kid who I fully expect to be on the roster.  A HS teammate of my son's.  Very strong player.


They do indeed have some frosh on the team!  They updated the roster.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on February 01, 2016, 08:22:15 PM
Looking forward to the start of the season! Glad to see teams taking advantage of opportunities to travel... PP will open with four games in Texas against some quality in-region competition (Mary Hardin-Baylor, Concordia TX, and George Fox plus South region Rhodes).

Managed to get back to Claremont this weekend for the annual alumni game. While our alumni pitchers have dropped a few ticks of velo over the years, I was impressed by the way the squad swung the bat all game (even against former pro pitcher David Colvin). With the aid of a clearly crooked umpiring crew, the current players managed to barely squeak out a 25-3 victory. The alumni played hard and had more fun, though, so I think we were the real winners.

The Hens lost a lot of good starters from last year, particularly in the infield, but they should reload well. Nishioka will be playing second base and Rosenbaum has moved to third base. Those two and Kevin Brice will lead a solid offense. Expect healthy contributions from a few new left-handed swinging starters as well (names escape me at the moment). The question this year, as always, will be the pitching. Lane Miles has left the program after being the Friday guy most of last year. David Gerics and Cameron Yen will be the anchors and I expect them to both have great years. If a few of the other returners and/or freshmen can step up on the hill, I think the Hens will make the SCIAC tournament and can definitely push for the conference title and/or at large NCAA bid.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on February 02, 2016, 12:10:31 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on February 01, 2016, 08:22:15 PM
Expect healthy contributions from a few new left-handed swinging starters as well (names escape me at the moment).

Was Kelleher one of the new left-handed swinging starters? That would be good to see.  Good kid, very good player, from my neck of the woods.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 04, 2016, 07:59:22 PM
Redlands represents over NAIA #22 Vanguard

http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2016/contrib/201602025svmxz

Never hurts to see a D3 beat the "Scholarship" folks from the other side of the fence.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: purplefan on February 08, 2016, 02:49:43 AM
Hello Purple Heys and purplebaseball.  I'm new to the board and a new freshmen parent at Whittier.  Made it to my first game of the season today and it was tough to watch us give that game away today!  I thought the pitchers threw well and the defense let them down today.  Routine plays that have to be made at this level were not and ended up costing us the game.  Seems like you two have been around Whittier baseball for a bit, is this the norm?  I know they had a tough season last year. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 08, 2016, 03:55:41 PM
Quote from: purplefan on February 08, 2016, 02:49:43 AM
Hello Purple Heys and purplebaseball.  I'm new to the board and a new freshmen parent at Whittier.  Made it to my first game of the season today and it was tough to watch us give that game away today!  I thought the pitchers threw well and the defense let them down today.  Routine plays that have to be made at this level were not and ended up costing us the game.  Seems like you two have been around Whittier baseball for a bit, is this the norm?  I know they had a tough season last year.

First, welcome to the Board!  More of us on here is a good thing, IMHO  ;D

I think this is a new year/new team, I don't see any carryover.  Not a diss at last year's squad - just sharing my observations...

I think we have better, (somewhat deeper) pitching, better hitting through the lineup, we have more pop in the lineup, we have more overall team speed, and I think we will be a better fielding team (other than the catching position - how can you really expect to replicate a D3 Gold Glover?).  Plus we are younger across the board than last year and to me that means room for improvement.

My sample size for that is Game 1 and Game 3 - it looked to me that Game 2 was a throwaway.  We competed quite well in those two games.  The way we lost those games speaks to what we need to work on to be in a position to win games against the good teams we will face this year.

Whitworth is a pretty darn good team - maybe as good as we will see all year.  Their hitters were disciplined, hit deep into counts, and hit it hard through most of the lineup.  They hit remarkably well with 2 strikes, or we pitched remarkably poorly with 2 strikes, but I think it was more the former than the latter.  Whitworth's pitching did not dominate us.  We had numerous well hit balls directly at waiting defenders.  On the balance that should even out over a season.

In Game 1, we walked way too many hitters and that put pressure on the pitchers (self-imposed) and defense.  With our well struck balls not dropping for hits early in the contest, all it took was one big inning by the Pirates to take advantage.  I think some of this was first game jitters.  Giving up 9 walks, 9 hits to this team and only allowing 6 runs...we held on admirably.  Last year we tended to let games like this get away from us.

In Game 3, we hit well enough to win, pitched almost well enough to win, and ill-timed fielding flubs proved costly at the time.  However, my opinion is that we could have hit a bit better, had more runs, and pitched somewhat better to where we might have withstood the errors - only 3 earned runs, and I think we can do better.  We had wasted opportunities to stop more runs, wasted opportunities to finish 1-2 and 2-2 counts, that would have ended threats.  On offense, we had some trouble putting 3 or 4 good AB's together to really fuel big innings.  So that is the space where we need to improve...in my opinion.  We went toe to toe with a darn good team that probably would have blown us out in at least 2 of 3 last year.  Game 3 was more about us losing it than them winning it (not to take credit away from the fact that they put pressure on us all game long - which had something to do with the outcome - but the fact is that to win at this level you have to withstand that). 

I don't see the errors that were made in Game 3 being made again, and in fact they may have a positive effect over the long haul in teaching the level of concentration and technique that is necessary to win at this level.  The things I look at are what wins games over the long haul...the things that good teams do.

So, my assessment is, we were closer to winning games against a team of this caliber than we generally were last year.  We've got a lot of work to do.  We need to hit better.  We need to pitch better.  We need to field better.  Who doesn't, right?

But if we can do that, and I think we will, we will make teams have to beat us, and that could prove to be tougher on our opponents than last year.


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 08, 2016, 03:59:29 PM
Next up we have to face Redlands in the leage openers (again?) and their pitching staff.  Tall task, good thing we have an extra week to prepare.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 08, 2016, 04:00:36 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 08, 2016, 03:59:29 PM
Next up we have to face Redlands in the leage openers (again?) and their pitching staff.  Tall task, good thing we have an extra week to prepare.

I thought the schedule revolved.  Why are we playing the same opening team that we did last year?  Anyone?   ???
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: purplefan on February 08, 2016, 05:12:14 PM
Thanks for the info Purple Heys sounds like you know the team.  My question is why don't we schedule some scrimmage games before the season starts?  Then we can work all this stuff out before it counts and lose some of those jitters.  The world is full of great BP hitters and fielders at practice but when the real games start things speed up very quickly.  Some guys can handle some can't.  It would be nice to find out before it counted like on Sunday!   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 08, 2016, 06:25:41 PM
D3 limits the amount of scrimmages against other teams andbthey are restricted to the fall or non championship season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Lets Play Two on February 08, 2016, 06:56:24 PM
PH - this is the 2nd year of a 2-year schedule, where the home and aways are flipped.  Next year's schedule will have a different order.  Hope this is helpful!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 08, 2016, 07:24:32 PM
Quote from: Lets Play Two on February 08, 2016, 06:56:24 PM
PH - this is the 2nd year of a 2-year schedule, where the home and aways are flipped.  Next year's schedule will have a different order.  Hope this is helpful!

I got it...never knew that...that makes sense!  Thanks!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 08, 2016, 07:37:39 PM
Quote from: purplefan on February 08, 2016, 05:12:14 PM
Thanks for the info Purple Heys sounds like you know the team.  My question is why don't we schedule some scrimmage games before the season starts?  Then we can work all this stuff out before it counts and lose some of those jitters.  The world is full of great BP hitters and fielders at practice but when the real games start things speed up very quickly.  Some guys can handle some can't.  It would be nice to find out before it counted like on Sunday!

D3 has more limitations on off season activities.  Trial by fire is fine...we are all in the same boat.  I think we'll be fine.  We will have to battle for every win.  Accepting that it is an every play/every pitch sort of thing for us because we are not good enough to coast, makes us grinders.  Baseball loves grinders.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 12, 2016, 07:43:20 PM
Nice wins for the SCIAC teams earlier today

Redlands 7-2 over #14 Linfield

PP 11-0 over #11 Rhodes
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on February 12, 2016, 07:57:21 PM
So, Redlands is middle-of-the-road program, then, Redlands HC leaves Redlands to take HC position at traditional powerhouse Chapman, Redlands improves and starts beating powerhouse programs, Chapman quickly becomes mediocre program.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 12, 2016, 08:21:50 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on February 12, 2016, 07:57:21 PM
So, Redlands is middle-of-the-road program, then, Redlands HC leaves Redlands to take HC position at traditional powerhouse Chapman, Redlands improves and starts beating powerhouse programs, Chapman quickly becomes mediocre program.

Wait...are you using math?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on February 13, 2016, 03:01:09 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on February 12, 2016, 07:57:21 PM
So, Redlands is middle-of-the-road program, then, Redlands HC leaves Redlands to take HC position at traditional powerhouse Chapman, Redlands improves and starts beating powerhouse programs, Chapman quickly becomes mediocre program.

?? Redlands was not middle of the road while Laverty was there. In fact they were garbage when he arrived and he turned the program around. He won two conference championships and was always in contention. The juniors and seniors on the current Redlands squad are Laverty recruits. Also, while his first two years may have been disappointing by Chapman's lofty standards, I would hardly call a 53-29 record "mediocre". Chapman's been known to get off to slow starts, so this year's 1-3 should be taken with a grain of salt. I'd give him a few more years to escape the Coach T shadow before we judge what he's doing over there. I'm certainly not saying he's an all-world coach, but your comment is completely ignorant of what he's actually done.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on February 13, 2016, 04:13:57 PM
You're probably right Teddy, I was just riffin' on the drubbing Chapman took from UTD yesterday (and almost losing to Cal Tech last season, trailing in the latter innings...) I suppose. However, given their geography, size of enrollment, breadth of programs - particularly popular business-related programs, admission stats that are solid, but not overly selective (more merit $ available to lower stats) Chapman should be a consistent powerhouse?  Hopefully they'll return to that status soon.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Striker on February 13, 2016, 06:53:50 PM
Chapman needs to take a look at what is happening to their program. Coach is known thru the league as a big whiner. Can't be good in the dugout. They've got some great talent, looks like weak leadership.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 13, 2016, 07:39:47 PM
Striker,  your first post and did it have to be negative? Welcome to the board. I look forward to your contributions.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Striker on February 13, 2016, 07:59:15 PM
Thanks for the welcome. Just an old time Coach T fan frustrated with the direction of the program.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 13, 2016, 08:01:57 PM
I can understand your frustration. But I would not envy the coach that had to follow Coach T.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: NWBaseballFan10 on February 14, 2016, 11:58:31 AM
I can't speak to the leadership differences between Coach T and Coach Laverty, but I had the opportunity to watch some of Chapman's opening series last week against ETBU and my initial thoughts were the 2016 squad looks a lot different than previous years (especially in terms of makeup and moxie). Offensively, I was impressed with their depth and physicality especially for being a pretty young ball club. The pitching staff, however, is night and day different than what we've seen in past years from the Panthers. In terms of "stuff" they have a fair amount of talent, but each guy they ran out to the mound looked like a deer in headlights. Too many guys looked like they were trying to "find their game" in the midst of it and the lack of command issues are going to be a playoff killer for this team if they can't get it fixed. As a team overall, they seemed "flat" (which may be a reflection of the leadership??).

I hope to watch quite a few more games this spring and catch a lot more SCIAC action as well. I'll admit the style of play is drastically different between those here in So Cal and those up in the NW. I'm not used to seeing so many crooked numbers on the scoreboard especially this early in the season! :o
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: purplefan on February 14, 2016, 10:03:05 PM
SCIAC league play starts next week.  Predictions anyone? ???
 
Whittier-Redlands   Redlands 2-1
Oxy-Chapman         Oxy 2-1
Pomona-CMS          Pomona 3-0
LaVeren-Caltech      LaVern 3-0
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 14, 2016, 11:06:31 PM
Careful, guys.  Have you seen what Caltech is doing in men's basketball.  It may be "Revenge of the Nerds". :o ;D

Knowing absolutely nothing about the staff or players, I'm gonna predict that Caltech wins THREE games this year (though I have no clue against whom).
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Appalachian Mtns on February 15, 2016, 08:42:40 AM
http://www.gocaltech.com/sports/bsb/2015-16/releases/2016021509kriv

Always great to win on opening day.  So proud of him and his teammates competing against all odds versus teams with twice as many rostered players (and I think, athletic scholarships like this NAIA opponent) while always keeping their number one priority on one of the toughest academic environments.  They won't win many in the tough D3 SCIAC conference but proud of all them for competing and making opponents earn it this year.  So awesome listening to your son come to bat with John Denver's Country Roads being played over the speakers in So CA.  The upperclassmen choose the freshmens' walkout song and we were concerned he might be walking out to a banjo duel from Deliverance. 😊
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 15, 2016, 12:01:05 PM
Congratulations to your son. It is very special to get into a school like Cal-Tech. And it is always good to get a win on opening day.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Appalachian Mtns on February 15, 2016, 01:54:06 PM
Thank you BLD.  Yes, my son thought it was the perfect fit, loved the coach and players, and felt the love in return, and just too good of an opportunity to turn down in favor of other D3 opportunities closer to home.  I suspect a couple SCIAC teams will be in a dogfight or two this year to keep from being the first victim.  The recruiting efforts of Coach Mark are paying off.  I firmly believe the Beavers will be more competitive each and every year.

Good luck to yours and OWU.  It is always a pleasure reading your knowledgeable posts on various regions and programs.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 15, 2016, 08:46:22 PM
Thanks,
Son's college career is over. He had a good run. I have high hopes for OWU this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 17, 2016, 10:12:55 AM
Quote from: Striker on February 13, 2016, 06:53:50 PM
Chapman needs to take a look at what is happening to their program. Coach is known thru the league as a big whiner. Can't be good in the dugout. They've got some great talent, looks like weak leadership.

My only ejection as a college coach happened against Coach Laverty... and he fully backed me (ump was terrible both ways and really changed the game). Laverty was tossed an inning after I was and we spent the rest of the game talking and watching from a parking lot together.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 17, 2016, 03:21:31 PM
What happened to theSCIAC.org folks running that page.  Did the shutter the doors and turn off the lights on Jan. 1? 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 17, 2016, 03:28:16 PM
Quote from: purplefan on February 14, 2016, 10:03:05 PM
SCIAC league play starts next week.  Predictions anyone? ???
 
Whittier-Redlands   Redlands 2-1
Oxy-Chapman         Oxy 2-1
Pomona-CMS          Pomona 3-0
LaVeren-Caltech      LaVern 3-0

Not ready to touch this...way too early.  But P-P's start looks impressive, Redlands and La Verne have some quality wins.  I think that Whittier, in 2 of 3 contests against a pretty good Whitworth squad, shows some promise.

I don't have a good read on Cal Lu, Oxy, Chapman, or CMS yet.  And Cal Tech has nowhere but up to go.

Going to be an interesting year.

Can't wait to see how this weekend plays itself out.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: NWBaseballFan10 on February 17, 2016, 06:53:51 PM
Quote from: purplefan on February 14, 2016, 10:03:05 PM
SCIAC league play starts next week.  Predictions anyone? ???
 
Whittier-Redlands   Redlands 2-1
Oxy-Chapman         Oxy 2-1
Pomona-CMS          Pomona 3-0
LaVeren-Caltech      LaVern 3-0

I'm not as familiar with SCIAC clubs, but I'm all for making predictions on these types of things...especially given my track record that would indicate I'm usually wrong anyway.

Redlands over Whitter (2-1) - I think the Bulldogs are clearly a more dangerous team than the Poets overall, but sweeping teams in conference play is no easy feat and Redlands' pitchers showed they were vulnerable last weekend (albeit against 2 quality NW teams).

Chapman over Oxy (2-1) - I know near nothing about Oxy, but Chapman should finish in the top 4 in the SCIAC (IMO). Eventually the Panthers are going to figure out their pitching staff and if their offense continues to produce the way it has, then this team should be able to make a solid run at the postseason.

PP over CMS (3-0) - Hottest team in the SCIAC given their perfect record and the quality of competition they faced in AZ. They possess a solid lineup (especially in the top half) and their pitching staff is off to a great start so it shouldn't be too difficult to keep those going against CMS.

LV over Caltech (3-0) - I think a win in conference play is in order for the Beavers at some point this season, but unfortunately I just don't see it happening this weekend. It is coming though...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 17, 2016, 08:04:21 PM
OK...I'll try it for the fun of it.

Pomona 3-0 over CMS - given the level of competition each has faced and the results - looks to be a good pick, especially early for CMS as the players and their new coach get acclimated with one another.

La Verne 3-0 over Cal Tech - the only interesting thing is that Cal Tech will likely throw their #1 at the #3 in every series to try to grab a win.  This early it may be a bit early to slot as the 1, 2, 3 patterns have not emerged the way things seem to settle in later.  I just don't see that it matters in this particular series.

Chapman 2-1 over Oxy.  A guess.

Whittier 3-0 over Redlands.  A positive outlook for a dad.   Be advised, the Poets will sweep every series and go undefeated the rest of the way.  8-)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: purplefan on February 18, 2016, 09:24:24 AM
I like it PH!  I will Take 36-3!haha  ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 19, 2016, 04:47:04 PM
Redlands 3-0 but it could be 2-1.  Redlands ERA is pretty bad and I don't know if they have a legit 3rd started.  Could be room for Whittier to take 1 game.

Pomona 3-0 and I have no doubt.

La Verne 3-0

Chapman "should" sweep this series but they didn't look too hot down in TX last week.  I don't think Oxy has the fire power to beat them.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: purplefan on February 19, 2016, 10:22:00 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 17, 2016, 08:04:21 PM
OK...I'll try it for the fun of it.

Pomona 3-0 over CMS - given the level of competition each has faced and the results - looks to be a good pick, especially early for CMS as the players and their new coach get acclimated with one another.

La Verne 3-0 over Cal Tech - the only interesting thing is that Cal Tech will likely throw their #1 at the #3 in every series to try to grab a win.  This early it may be a bit early to slot as the 1, 2, 3 patterns have not emerged the way things seem to settle in later.  I just don't see that it matters in this particular series.

Chapman 2-1 over Oxy.  A guess.

Whittier 3-0 over Redlands.  A positive outlook for a dad.   Be advised, the Poets will sweep every series and go undefeated the rest of the way.  8-)
Wasn't able to make it out to the Redlands-Whittier game today.  Did you make out PH?  If so what did you think?  I will talk to my son tonight and get his take.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 20, 2016, 09:31:16 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 20, 2016, 12:37:46 AM
Quote from: purplefan on February 19, 2016, 10:22:00 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 17, 2016, 08:04:21 PM
OK...I'll try it for the fun of it.

Pomona 3-0 over CMS - given the level of competition each has faced and the results - looks to be a good pick, especially early for CMS as the players and their new coach get acclimated with one another.

La Verne 3-0 over Cal Tech - the only interesting thing is that Cal Tech will likely throw their #1 at the #3 in every series to try to grab a win.  This early it may be a bit early to slot as the 1, 2, 3 patterns have not emerged the way things seem to settle in later.  I just don't see that it matters in this particular series.

Chapman 2-1 over Oxy.  A guess.

Whittier 3-0 over Redlands.  A positive outlook for a dad.   Be advised, the Poets will sweep every series and go undefeated the rest of the way.  8-)
Wasn't able to make it out to the Redlands-Whittier game today.  Did you make out PH?  If so what did you think?  I will talk to my son tonight and get his take.

For 4 innings we went toe to toe, pitch for pitch.  I dare say, our guy was even a little bit better.. But they broke through for single runs in the 5th and 6th (each with 2 out).  By not getting to their guy in the early innings when we had the opportunities, it gave Redlands the time needed to solve our guy.  Then we had the 7Th inning where we failed to play college baseball.

If we are going to beat teams, we need to play college baseball every inning.

I was disappointed in our hitting- facing their top hurler had a hand in that...we'll see if we can bounce back today.

Revised prediction 35-4  ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: purplefan on February 20, 2016, 11:47:09 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 20, 2016, 09:31:16 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 20, 2016, 12:37:46 AM
Quote from: purplefan on February 19, 2016, 10:22:00 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 17, 2016, 08:04:21 PM
OK...I'll try it for the fun of it.

Pomona 3-0 over CMS - given the level of competition each has faced and the results - looks to be a good pick, especially early for CMS as the players and their new coach get acclimated with one another.

La Verne 3-0 over Cal Tech - the only interesting thing is that Cal Tech will likely throw their #1 at the #3 in every series to try to grab a win.  This early it may be a bit early to slot as the 1, 2, 3 patterns have not emerged the way things seem to settle in later.  I just don't see that it matters in this particular series.

Chapman 2-1 over Oxy.  A guess.

Whittier 3-0 over Redlands.  A positive outlook for a dad.   Be advised, the Poets will sweep every series and go undefeated the rest of the way.  8-)
Wasn't able to make it out to the Redlands-Whittier game today.  Did you make out PH?  If so what did you think?  I will talk to my son tonight and get his take.

For 4 innings we went toe to toe, pitch for pitch.  I dare say, our guy was even a little bit better.. But they broke through for single runs in the 5th and 6th (each with 2 out).  By not getting to their guy in the early innings when we had the opportunities, it gave Redlands the time needed to solve our guy.  Then we had the 7Th inning where we failed to play college baseball.

If we are going to beat teams, we need to play college baseball every inning.

I was disappointed in our hitting- facing their top hurler had a hand in that...we'll see if we can bounce back today.

Revised prediction 35-4  ;D
Talked to my son last night and he pretty much said the same thing you said.  A lot of frustration going on with the bats.  We hit .143 yesterday that's not going to win many games. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GoHens on February 21, 2016, 12:36:26 AM
New poster here. Was unaware of this board untill recently, but as a Pomona baseball alumni I decided I should join the conversation. I still live in the area and attend as many games as I can. With that all out of the way... I was completely blindsided by the games today. I had read only positives and expected PP to field a very strong team this year. Instead I witnessed an absolute massacre. CMS our arch rival is simply a more talented team this year. They beat us in every facet of the game today. CMS outfielder Trey Smith is a more dynamic player than either the cape cod league bound Nishioka or former league MVP Simon Rosenbaum. Furthermore the CMS lineup is deeper and in my humble opinion better across the board. The left handers from PP really struggled today and I don't see them getting many outs this year in SCIAC play. Beyond the play on the field I was beyond disappointed by the difference in the effort level. CMS was loud and engaged throughout the game as PP seemed to crack under the pressure. I hope this is just a bad weekend for the 'Hens, otherwise this could be a long year.... Go hens
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: purplefan on February 21, 2016, 03:02:49 AM
Purple Heys...After what I saw today you better revise your prediction 3-36 :'(
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CMSfan on February 21, 2016, 04:00:27 AM
Quote from: GoHens on February 21, 2016, 12:36:26 AM
Instead I witnessed an absolute massacre. CMS our arch rival is simply a more talented team this year. They beat us in every facet of the game today.

I can't remember the last time CMS swept a doubleheader from PP (checked...looks like 2011...more recently than I would have thought). It's an encouraging sign at the start of Coach Walkenbach's tenure. And, if the Stags have as much talent as GoHens reports, credit also goes to Morgan Cummins for holding together the roster and bringing in a strong freshman class.

Of course, CMS is giving up more than 10 runs a game on average, so that is more than a little concerning...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 21, 2016, 10:37:06 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 19, 2016, 04:47:04 PM
Redlands 3-0 but it could be 2-1.  Redlands ERA is pretty bad and I don't know if they have a legit 3rd started.  Could be room for Whittier to take 1 game.

Pomona 3-0 and I have no doubt.

La Verne 3-0

Chapman "should" sweep this series but they didn't look too hot down in TX last week.  I don't think Oxy has the fire power to beat them.

Shows you what I know....

Whittier was in a few games early but they need to start hitting.

I have no clue what happened to PP but that pitching on Saturday was horrible.  I can't remember the last time they have looked that bad and it makes you wonder what the difference is between last week in TX and this week at home.  Not a good sign for the Hens.  CMS also wanted it more.  Looks like a major culture change is brewing at CMS....but they are still going to struggle with that ERA.

Oxy and Chapman exchanged whoopings on Saturday.  I really don't think either team is very good.  One thing I do find funny is that Oxy never puts up a story when they lose, only when they win.  Strange.

La Verne didn't exactly overpower Caltech but it doesn't seem like any of the games were in doubt.  Interested to see what happens next week against CMS.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 21, 2016, 11:16:53 AM
Amazing what a coaching change can do. CMS is a great school and the combination of that and a good coaching staff could really change that program.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 22, 2016, 02:48:32 PM
Quote from: purplefan on February 21, 2016, 03:02:49 AM
Purple Heys...After what I saw today you better revise your prediction 3-36 :'(

Nope, still on the bandwagon.

33-6   8-)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 22, 2016, 02:53:03 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 21, 2016, 10:37:06 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 19, 2016, 04:47:04 PM
Redlands 3-0 but it could be 2-1.  Redlands ERA is pretty bad and I don't know if they have a legit 3rd started.  Could be room for Whittier to take 1 game.

Pomona 3-0 and I have no doubt.

La Verne 3-0

Chapman "should" sweep this series but they didn't look too hot down in TX last week.  I don't think Oxy has the fire power to beat them.

Shows you what I know....

Whittier was in a few games early but they need to start hitting.

I have no clue what happened to PP but that pitching on Saturday was horrible.  I can't remember the last time they have looked that bad and it makes you wonder what the difference is between last week in TX and this week at home.  Not a good sign for the Hens.  CMS also wanted it more.  Looks like a major culture change is brewing at CMS....but they are still going to struggle with that ERA.

Oxy and Chapman exchanged whoopings on Saturday.  I really don't think either team is very good.  One thing I do find funny is that Oxy never puts up a story when they lose, only when they win.  Strange.

La Verne didn't exactly overpower Caltech but it doesn't seem like any of the games were in doubt.  Interested to see what happens next week against CMS.

Crazy week for sure...

Did not see CMS 2-1 over PP
Figured on LV 3-0 over Cal Tech
It was Pick 'em on who went 2-1 for Oxy and Chapman
I knew Redlands' pitching would be tough on the Poets, but was looking for the steal in Game 2.

Cal Lu players were in the stands scouting during their weekend off.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 22, 2016, 03:09:59 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 22, 2016, 02:53:03 PM

I knew Redlands' pitching would be tough on the Poets, but was looking for the steal in Game 2.


We need to hit better, that's for sure.  I think we can do that.
We need to field like college baseball players for 9 innings (or more) a game.  We'd better be able to do that.
I did like the pitching we got from our Game 1 and Game 2 starters.  We can build on that.

Keep grinding.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: purplefan on February 22, 2016, 04:42:22 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 22, 2016, 03:09:59 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 22, 2016, 02:53:03 PM

I knew Redlands' pitching would be tough on the Poets, but was looking for the steal in Game 2.


We need to hit better, that's for sure.  I think we can do that.
We need to field like college baseball players for 9 innings (or more) a game.  We'd better be able to do that.
I did like the pitching we got from our Game 1 and Game 2 starters.  We can build on that.

Keep grinding.
Purple Heys you been around awhile and I'm a new freshman dad and of a pitcher at that!haha  But can you please explain that game 3 lineup to me I don"t get it?  ???
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GoHens on February 26, 2016, 02:23:51 PM
Predictions for the weekend:

La Verne 2 out of three, but surprise CMS pulls one out.
Cal Lu gets off to a good start with a sweep of Chapman.
Oxy sweeps Cal Tech...
And the tough one... Redlands looks like the class of the league on paper. I still have faith in the PP bats and Gerics should be enough on the mound to steal one. Redlands takes 2 of 3 is my prediction and I sure hope I'm right. Could easily see a sweep

Whittier could take one from LC, but don't see them beating Bates...could be a tough stretch if they don't take down LC.

Let's hope for an entertaining week of ball. Go Hens
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 26, 2016, 04:12:50 PM
Quote from: GoHens on February 26, 2016, 02:23:51 PM
Predictions for the weekend:

La Verne 2 out of three, but surprise CMS pulls one out.
Cal Lu gets off to a good start with a sweep of Chapman.
Oxy sweeps Cal Tech...
And the tough one... Redlands looks like the class of the league on paper. I still have faith in the PP bats and Gerics should be enough on the mound to steal one. Redlands takes 2 of 3 is my prediction and I sure hope I'm right. Could easily see a sweep

Whittier could take one from LC, but don't see them beating Bates...could be a tough stretch if they don't take down LC.

Let's hope for an entertaining week of ball. Go Hens

I have a hard time seeing CMS get one from ULV simply due to their pitching....but I feel like ULV plays "down" aginst weaker teams (see most of last season).  ULV 3-0 but 1 game is close.

Oxy will get a scare but they will probably win all 3.  I still feel like this is Caltech's best chance at a win this (SCIAC) season.

Cal Lu is a better team than Chapman and should sweep, but they have had a few rough starts on the mound. 

I say PP takes 2 of 3.  It might sound crazy after last week but I'm sticking to it.  I'm not sold on Redlands at all.

Hopefully Whittier can win a few but it has been a very ugly start to their year.  Lets see if they can turn it around and I see L&C being a good team to do it against.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 26, 2016, 07:17:51 PM
Game 3 in any Cal Tech Series may be the one to watch when they figure to pitch their Number 1 against your Number 3
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 26, 2016, 08:29:34 PM
Whittier wins one, 15-5 over L&C.  And there was much rejoicing.  ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on February 27, 2016, 09:06:10 PM
Cal LU took 2 out of 3 from Chapman.   Cal LU's number 2 lasted only 4 batters and got no outs.  Second time in three outings he has gotten rocked.  A change may be coming.  May be losing his spot in the rotation to a freshman.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 29, 2016, 10:19:59 AM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on February 27, 2016, 09:06:10 PM
Cal LU took 2 out of 3 from Chapman.   Cal LU's number 2 lasted only 4 batters and got no outs.  Second time in three outings he has gotten rocked.  A change may be coming.  May be losing his spot in the rotation to a freshman.

I'm curious who your source is on the coaching staff regarding the Freshman that's going to take his spot in the rotation?  Seeing as only 1 freshman has thrown a pitch for CLU this year, I find that hard to believe he will be thrown into the rotation after giving up 15 hits in 9 innings.  Whatever the case, CLU needs to find a 3 guys that can put together solid starts in a 3 game series. 

Weekend turned out pretty much how I expected, with the exception of Redlands getting 2/3.  Pomona had every chance in the world to break open game 1 but they failed to do the little things and that cost them runs in multiple innings.  La Verne brought CMS back down to earth and was never in jeopardy of dropping a game in that series.  Whittier gets in the W column with a few wins over Lewis & Clark. Oxy wins all 3 against Caltech.  Big series this weekend between Redlands and La Verne. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on February 29, 2016, 01:03:11 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 29, 2016, 10:19:59 AM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on February 27, 2016, 09:06:10 PM
Cal LU took 2 out of 3 from Chapman.   Cal LU's number 2 lasted only 4 batters and got no outs.  Second time in three outings he has gotten rocked.  A change may be coming.  May be losing his spot in the rotation to a freshman.

I'm curious who your source is on the coaching staff regarding the Freshman that's going to take his spot in the rotation?  Seeing as only 1 freshman has thrown a pitch for CLU this year, I find that hard to believe he will be thrown into the rotation after giving up 15 hits in 9 innings.  Whatever the case, CLU needs to find a 3 guys that can put together solid starts in a 3 game series. 

Weekend turned out pretty much how I expected, with the exception of Redlands getting 2/3.  Pomona had every chance in the world to break open game 1 but they failed to do the little things and that cost them runs in multiple innings.  La Verne brought CMS back down to earth and was never in jeopardy of dropping a game in that series.  Whittier gets in the W column with a few wins over Lewis & Clark. Oxy wins all 3 against Caltech.  Big series this weekend between Redlands and La Verne.



Cal Lu gives varsity guys innings in their JV games.   Gives coaches a chance to look at many more guys.

the number 2 starter got hammered in a JV game last week, when the varsity was off,   then lasted 4 batters in his next start.  It's true that the frosh that came in to replace him with bases loaded had a rocky start, partly due to pitching out of the stretch,   but he calmed down and  went 5 shut down innings after that, before tiring.   He was also really strong in JV game the week before.  When he's on, he  pounds the zone and has a really tight breaking ball.

I don't think he's  experienced enough quite yet.  But they clearly are looking for him to step up.  they aren't afraid to put him in lots of situations.   The veteran starter has a few more chances to get right. He  pitched again in Sunday's JV game, but was also shaky.   They definitely see getting in straightened out as a big deal.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 29, 2016, 01:16:42 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on February 29, 2016, 01:03:11 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 29, 2016, 10:19:59 AM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on February 27, 2016, 09:06:10 PM
Cal LU took 2 out of 3 from Chapman.   Cal LU's number 2 lasted only 4 batters and got no outs.  Second time in three outings he has gotten rocked.  A change may be coming.  May be losing his spot in the rotation to a freshman.
So the starter that is on the bubble, How many pitches has he thrown,  in the last few weeks? Looks like he is getting time in Varsity and JV games. Just curios, not casting aspersions towards the coaching staff.

I'm curious who your source is on the coaching staff regarding the Freshman that's going to take his spot in the rotation?  Seeing as only 1 freshman has thrown a pitch for CLU this year, I find that hard to believe he will be thrown into the rotation after giving up 15 hits in 9 innings.  Whatever the case, CLU needs to find a 3 guys that can put together solid starts in a 3 game series. 

Weekend turned out pretty much how I expected, with the exception of Redlands getting 2/3.  Pomona had every chance in the world to break open game 1 but they failed to do the little things and that cost them runs in multiple innings.  La Verne brought CMS back down to earth and was never in jeopardy of dropping a game in that series.  Whittier gets in the W column with a few wins over Lewis & Clark. Oxy wins all 3 against Caltech.  Big series this weekend between Redlands and La Verne.



Cal Lu gives varsity guys innings in their JV games.   Gives coaches a chance to look at many more guys.

the number 2 starter got hammered in a JV game last week, when the varsity was off,   then lasted 4 batters in his next start.  It's true that the frosh that came in to replace him with bases loaded had a rocky start, partly due to pitching out of the stretch,   but he calmed down and  went 5 shut down innings after that, before tiring.   He was also really strong in JV game the week before.  When he's on, he  pounds the zone and has a really tight breaking ball.

I don't think he's  experienced enough quite yet.  But they clearly are looking for him to step up.  they aren't afraid to put him in lots of situations.   The veteran starter has a few more chances to get right. He  pitched again in Sunday's JV game, but was also shaky.   They definitely see getting in straightened out as a big deal.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on February 29, 2016, 02:43:10 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on February 29, 2016, 01:16:42 PM


So the starter that is on the bubble, How many pitches has he thrown,  in the last few weeks? Looks like he is getting time in Varsity and JV games. Just curios, not casting aspersions towards the coaching staff.



Not that many really.   He started the JV game last week when the varsity had no games at all.

He lasted 4 batters the following week.

And threw just a couple of innings in the JV DH. 

Cal Lu's JV team has NO dedicated JV pitchers -- just 12 position players.  So in fact, ALL of the pitching is done by varsity guys and not just guys low on the totem pole  -- though the guys low in the pecking order do get some work in too.  But that doesn't seem  primarily the way they've used those games so far.   I think it mattered a lot that the first JV series (three games) was in a week where the varsity had no games at all.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 29, 2016, 09:29:39 PM
Other than Cal Lu, do any other SCIAC teams have JV teams?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 29, 2016, 09:30:45 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 29, 2016, 09:29:39 PM
Other than Cal Lu, do any other SCIAC teams have JV teams?

Before I get flamed, just point me back to where this was previously asked and answered.

;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 29, 2016, 09:46:19 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 29, 2016, 09:30:45 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 29, 2016, 09:29:39 PM
Other than Cal Lu, do any other SCIAC teams have JV teams?

Before I get flamed, just point me back to where this was previously asked and answered.

;D

I honestly don't remember if this has been discussed before but the only ones I know of are CLU and OXY.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 01, 2016, 08:29:51 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 29, 2016, 09:29:39 PM
Other than Cal Lu, do any other SCIAC teams have JV teams?

Over spring breaks, quite a few east Coast and Snow belt schools come thorough SoCal and play a few JV games on their off days for the kids who aren't seeing many innings.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 01, 2016, 01:31:45 PM
Congratulations to Whittier's Jake Reynaud on being named to the D3 Team of the Week for Week 3.  The kid absolutely raked this past weekend hitting .688 with 11 RBI's.

http://d3baseball.com/awards/team-of-the-week/2016/week03 (http://d3baseball.com/awards/team-of-the-week/2016/week03)

:D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 01, 2016, 09:31:26 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on February 29, 2016, 01:03:11 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 29, 2016, 10:19:59 AM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on February 27, 2016, 09:06:10 PM
Cal LU took 2 out of 3 from Chapman.   Cal LU's number 2 lasted only 4 batters and got no outs.  Second time in three outings he has gotten rocked.  A change may be coming.  May be losing his spot in the rotation to a freshman.

I'm curious who your source is on the coaching staff regarding the Freshman that's going to take his spot in the rotation?  Seeing as only 1 freshman has thrown a pitch for CLU this year, I find that hard to believe he will be thrown into the rotation after giving up 15 hits in 9 innings.  Whatever the case, CLU needs to find a 3 guys that can put together solid starts in a 3 game series. 

Weekend turned out pretty much how I expected, with the exception of Redlands getting 2/3.  Pomona had every chance in the world to break open game 1 but they failed to do the little things and that cost them runs in multiple innings.  La Verne brought CMS back down to earth and was never in jeopardy of dropping a game in that series.  Whittier gets in the W column with a few wins over Lewis & Clark. Oxy wins all 3 against Caltech.  Big series this weekend between Redlands and La Verne.



Cal Lu gives varsity guys innings in their JV games.   Gives coaches a chance to look at many more guys.

the number 2 starter got hammered in a JV game last week, when the varsity was off,   then lasted 4 batters in his next start.  It's true that the frosh that came in to replace him with bases loaded had a rocky start, partly due to pitching out of the stretch,   but he calmed down and  went 5 shut down innings after that, before tiring.   He was also really strong in JV game the week before.  When he's on, he  pounds the zone and has a really tight breaking ball.

I don't think he's  experienced enough quite yet.  But they clearly are looking for him to step up.  they aren't afraid to put him in lots of situations.   The veteran starter has a few more chances to get right. He  pitched again in Sunday's JV game, but was also shaky.   They definitely see getting in straightened out as a big deal.

Mr. Parkman,   I'm sure Coach Slim wants to keep the end of his bullpen solid with Petersen and Kiyabu.   That said, If #2 doesn't bounce back to form of the end of last year, moving Evan Petersen (2.84 ERA w/ 11.37K/9) to starter might be a solution.   This would mean Slim would need to find a setup person to get between Starters and Kiyabu.   Nevins will need to cut down his BB; and it's possible the freshman might be the Bridge (would shorter outings help him?)  This week they face Caltech so I expect they'll be some pseudo-auditioning going on.   It's a good opportunity for Wehner, Bill and Nevins to showcase themselves. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on March 04, 2016, 05:45:37 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 01, 2016, 09:31:26 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on February 29, 2016, 01:03:11 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 29, 2016, 10:19:59 AM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on February 27, 2016, 09:06:10 PM
Cal LU took 2 out of 3 from Chapman.   Cal LU's number 2 lasted only 4 batters and got no outs.  Second time in three outings he has gotten rocked.  A change may be coming.  May be losing his spot in the rotation to a freshman.

I'm curious who your source is on the coaching staff regarding the Freshman that's going to take his spot in the rotation?  Seeing as only 1 freshman has thrown a pitch for CLU this year, I find that hard to believe he will be thrown into the rotation after giving up 15 hits in 9 innings.  Whatever the case, CLU needs to find a 3 guys that can put together solid starts in a 3 game series. 

Weekend turned out pretty much how I expected, with the exception of Redlands getting 2/3.  Pomona had every chance in the world to break open game 1 but they failed to do the little things and that cost them runs in multiple innings.  La Verne brought CMS back down to earth and was never in jeopardy of dropping a game in that series.  Whittier gets in the W column with a few wins over Lewis & Clark. Oxy wins all 3 against Caltech.  Big series this weekend between Redlands and La Verne.



Cal Lu gives varsity guys innings in their JV games.   Gives coaches a chance to look at many more guys.

the number 2 starter got hammered in a JV game last week, when the varsity was off,   then lasted 4 batters in his next start.  It's true that the frosh that came in to replace him with bases loaded had a rocky start, partly due to pitching out of the stretch,   but he calmed down and  went 5 shut down innings after that, before tiring.   He was also really strong in JV game the week before.  When he's on, he  pounds the zone and has a really tight breaking ball.

I don't think he's  experienced enough quite yet.  But they clearly are looking for him to step up.  they aren't afraid to put him in lots of situations.   The veteran starter has a few more chances to get right. He  pitched again in Sunday's JV game, but was also shaky.   They definitely see getting in straightened out as a big deal.

Mr. Parkman,   I'm sure Coach Slim wants to keep the end of his bullpen solid with Petersen and Kiyabu.   That said, If #2 doesn't bounce back to form of the end of last year, moving Evan Petersen (2.84 ERA w/ 11.37K/9) to starter might be a solution.   This would mean Slim would need to find a setup person to get between Starters and Kiyabu.   Nevins will need to cut down his BB; and it's possible the freshman might be the Bridge (would shorter outings help him?)  This week they face Caltech so I expect they'll be some pseudo-auditioning going on.   It's a good opportunity for Wehner, Bill and Nevins to showcase themselves.


Looks like you called it.   Wehner to the pen,  Petersen to start.   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 04, 2016, 06:34:35 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on March 04, 2016, 05:45:37 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 01, 2016, 09:31:26 PM

Mr. Parkman,   I'm sure Coach Slim wants to keep the end of his bullpen solid with Petersen and Kiyabu.   That said, If #2 doesn't bounce back to form of the end of last year, moving Evan Petersen (2.84 ERA w/ 11.37K/9) to starter might be a solution.   This would mean Slim would need to find a setup person to get between Starters and Kiyabu.   Nevins will need to cut down his BB; and it's possible the freshman might be the Bridge (would shorter outings help him?)  This week they face Caltech so I expect they'll be some pseudo-auditioning going on.   It's a good opportunity for Wehner, Bill and Nevins to showcase themselves.


Looks like you called it.   Wehner to the pen,  Petersen to start.   

I'm like the stopped clock that is right 2x per day.... except for me, it's 2x per season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 04, 2016, 08:54:08 PM
WC takes Game 1 8-7 over P-P.  :o
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 05, 2016, 05:52:48 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 04, 2016, 06:34:35 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on March 04, 2016, 05:45:37 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 01, 2016, 09:31:26 PM

Mr. Parkman,   I'm sure Coach Slim wants to keep the end of his bullpen solid with Petersen and Kiyabu.   That said, If #2 doesn't bounce back to form of the end of last year, moving Evan Petersen (2.84 ERA w/ 11.37K/9) to starter might be a solution.   This would mean Slim would need to find a setup person to get between Starters and Kiyabu.   Nevins will need to cut down his BB; and it's possible the freshman might be the Bridge (would shorter outings help him?)  This week they face Caltech so I expect they'll be some pseudo-auditioning going on.   It's a good opportunity for Wehner, Bill and Nevins to showcase themselves.


Looks like you called it.   Wehner to the pen,  Petersen to start.   

I'm like the stopped clock that is right 2x per day.... except for me, it's 2x per season.

Against a much improved Caltech team (I do think they get a SCIAC win this year),  Petersen goes 6 giving up 2ER; Bill comes in the 7th with 2K's.  Combined, 0 BB's.
In Friday's game, the struggling Wehner pitched in relief.  Scoreless inning, 0 BB's.
One weekend doesn't make a trend, but I have to believe Coach Slim is pleased with their outings. 

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 05, 2016, 10:49:48 PM
Poets take 2 of 3 from P-P and it was all The Sagehens could do to avoid a sweep. WC looks to have found out a thing or two about themselves.  I'm looking forward to see if they can build on this.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: purplefan on March 07, 2016, 09:57:15 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 05, 2016, 10:49:48 PM
Poets take 2 of 3 from P-P and it was all The Sagehens could do to avoid a sweep. WC looks to have found out a thing or two about themselves.  I'm looking forward to see if they can build on this.
Yes they did!  Let's keep it rolling tomorrow and then into the weekend! ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 11, 2016, 10:33:06 AM
2 SCIAC matchups this weekend:

Redlands vs CLU: 
Very similar teams on paper. 
One would think Minjarez vs Seito on Friday will be a low scoring game.   I expect Sat will be a split, so winner of Friday takes the series. 
I think 7th inning will be key inning as coaches try to squeeze 7 full innings out of their starter; before going to two very capable closers (White and Kiyabu).   I'm picking CLU to win game 1; and take the series 2-1.

Occi vs Whittier:   Whittier to take 2 of 3.
Occi has good record, but 6 of 7 wins have been CMS and Caltech.  Whittier took 2 of 3 vs PP; and I expect they'll do the same this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 11, 2016, 02:49:56 PM
I am of a developing opinion that the SCIAC might be somewhat underappreciated this year...

#19 Webster 1-3
#25 Linfield 2-2
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 11, 2016, 05:19:52 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 11, 2016, 02:49:56 PM
I am of a developing opinion that the SCIAC might be somewhat underappreciated this year...

#19 Webster 1-3
#25 Linfield 2-2

Why would that be?

From what I have not seen I would say that the SCIAC is much weaker this year than in past years. Granted it is early so it is hard to tell, but taking a quick look at the records of the teams with winning records, there is nothing that I saw that made me think any of the teams this year deserved to even be considered to be ranked.  Pretty unimpressive records against the tougher teams actually.

In past years, CLU , Chapman and P-P would go head to head against the top teams and look pretty competitive, but not so much this year.

Big series this weekend with Redlands and CLU will probably tell us something about those two teams.  Again it's early but it's tough now that you get into league play to play any of the nationally ranked teams.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: NWBaseballFan10 on March 11, 2016, 05:53:27 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 11, 2016, 02:49:56 PM
I am of a developing opinion that the SCIAC might be somewhat underappreciated this year...

#19 Webster 1-3
#25 Linfield 2-2

It has been discussed on another forum, but the quality of play in the West, as a whole, seems to be down this year. Trinity is the only team that passes the eyeball test and those knowledgeable of the TU program have even suggested they look "down" compared to recent years. Whether they are or not, they are still the easy favorite to represent the West in Appleton.

I also wouldn't put too much stock into any results against Webster. Their top 2 pitchers are injured and haven't thrown at all during their Spring Break trip and the rest of the crew isn't wowing anybody. They don't look as formidable as they did in 2013 and 2015 during their World Series runs.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 11, 2016, 07:01:06 PM
Operating word:  developing...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 11, 2016, 07:03:26 PM
Whittier-Oxy is a rainout.

CLU - UR racing to beat the rain.  5 in the books, 6-2 CLU.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 11, 2016, 07:16:37 PM
How many innings for a game to be official?  I should know this.  5 innings complete?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 11, 2016, 07:34:01 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 11, 2016, 07:16:37 PM
How many innings for a game to be official?  I should know this.  5 innings complete?

Don't know about NCAA, but in MLB it is 5 innings completed by the team behind (so 4.5 or 5).

Reminds me of the old Braves chant: Spahn and Sain and pray for rain.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 11, 2016, 08:55:18 PM
Its 5 innings all right.  I knew it but did not want to believe myself only because NCAA might be different.

So CLU squeezes a 6-2 win over UR in a rain shortened game.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 11, 2016, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: NWBaseballFan10 on March 11, 2016, 05:53:27 PM
I also wouldn't put too much stock into any results against Webster...They don't look as formidable as they did in 2013 and 2015 during their World Series runs.

#19 Webster beats #25 Linfield 7-1

Developing...hmmm   :-\
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: NWBaseballFan10 on March 11, 2016, 09:37:58 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 11, 2016, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: NWBaseballFan10 on March 11, 2016, 05:53:27 PM
I also wouldn't put too much stock into any results against Webster...They don't look as formidable as they did in 2013 and 2015 during their World Series runs.

#19 Webster beats #25 Linfield 7-1

Developing...hmmm   :-\

Yeah Linfield looked flat. They ran themselves out of a few scoring opportunities and their starter Neely didn't look as efficient as he has at other points in the season. Linfield hit some pitches on the screws, but most were right at people. Webster's starter wasn't anything special. He was probably 80-83 with an average at best breaking ball. Unfortunately, it was all that was needed to keep the Cat's bats at bay. Hopefully, they can flip the script tomorrow.

Both teams appear to be down from where they've been in recent seasons.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 12, 2016, 09:49:59 AM
I just noticed that Chad Clark is catching for CLU. That kid can flat out play and filled a huge hole for them after they lost their Sr catcher from last year. He must have had a Redshirt year at Indiana which is a big pickup for CLU to have solid D1 talent and experience behind the dish. Next two games will be big for CLU and Redlands to see if one team can separate themselves from the SCIAC pack. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 12, 2016, 09:46:56 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 11, 2016, 02:49:56 PM
I am of a developing opinion that the SCIAC might be somewhat underappreciated this year...

#19 Webster 1-3
#25 Linfield 2-2
There is a lot of legacy in those Top 25 balloting in the first 15 games of the season.

After the Spring trips, and the chance to see inter-region action, you have to take the early ballots with a few grains of salt.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 13, 2016, 08:56:37 PM
Made a change in my game day attire - bought new shoes.

I blame myself.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 14, 2016, 10:53:37 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 12, 2016, 09:49:59 AM
I just noticed that Chad Clark is catching for CLU. That kid can flat out play and filled a huge hole for them after they lost their Sr catcher from last year. He must have had a Redshirt year at Indiana which is a big pickup for CLU to have solid D1 talent and experience behind the dish. Next two games will be big for CLU and Redlands to see if one team can separate themselves from the SCIAC pack.

Yes, he's a good addition.   He's played almost exclusively at 2nd this year; .333 ave so far.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 15, 2016, 01:22:55 PM
Nice to see 3 SCIAC Schools getting some love in the poll.  The funny thing about it is that they are the 2nd, 3rd and 4th place teams in the conference.  Oxy is in first place at 10-2 but they have played the bottom 3 teams and have a pretty long way to go.  I could see them going 2-10/3-9 over their last 4 SCIAC series but I could be surprised.  Pomona's weekend against CMS looks like it was a little bit of a "fluke" as they have been playing better.  La Verne isn't a very sexy team but they keep winning.  Cal Lu dropped 2 extra inning games this past weekend to Redlands and sit right in the middle of the pack.  Redlands has won each of their 4 SCIAC series and they have taken 2/3 from La Verne, Cal Lu and Pomona.  Still a lot of baseball left to be played but I would say Redlands is in the best position for the top spot in the SCIAC Tourney at this moment.

I am curious to see what happens with Minjarez from Redlands as he just doesn't seem to be as good as last year.  He has walked a lot of guys and throws a lot of pitches and it looks like he is starting a lot of the mid-week games as well.  Although he is likely only going 2 innings during the mid-week, getting ready for a start is a lot more work than throwing a regular bullpen.  I could be wrong, but I wonder how long he can go if he keeps throwing like he has been.

Big series between Pomona and La Verne coming up this weekend.  Pomona could put themselves in a much better spot, or they could really put themselves in a bad spot.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on March 16, 2016, 02:36:35 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 15, 2016, 01:22:55 PM
Nice to see 3 SCIAC Schools getting some love in the poll.  The funny thing about it is that they are the 2nd, 3rd and 4th place teams in the conference.  Oxy is in first place at 10-2 but they have played the bottom 3 teams and have a pretty long way to go.  I could see them going 2-10/3-9 over their last 4 SCIAC series but I could be surprised.  Pomona's weekend against CMS looks like it was a little bit of a "fluke" as they have been playing better.  La Verne isn't a very sexy team but they keep winning.  Cal Lu dropped 2 extra inning games this past weekend to Redlands and sit right in the middle of the pack.  Redlands has won each of their 4 SCIAC series and they have taken 2/3 from La Verne, Cal Lu and Pomona.  Still a lot of baseball left to be played but I would say Redlands is in the best position for the top spot in the SCIAC Tourney at this moment.

I am curious to see what happens with Minjarez from Redlands as he just doesn't seem to be as good as last year.  He has walked a lot of guys and throws a lot of pitches and it looks like he is starting a lot of the mid-week games as well.  Although he is likely only going 2 innings during the mid-week, getting ready for a start is a lot more work than throwing a regular bullpen.  I could be wrong, but I wonder how long he can go if he keeps throwing like he has been.

Big series between Pomona and La Verne coming up this weekend.  Pomona could put themselves in a much better spot, or they could really put themselves in a bad spot.

Definitely agree on Redlands. They've got to keep grinding out wins, but the SCIAC is theirs for the taking. CLU and ULV certainly have a chance but have a tougher road going forward.

Also good point on the PP- ULV series... This is a make or break series for Pomona if they want to be contenders this year. Too much inconsistency (particularly on Saturdays) so far, and losing another series would be a huge hole to climb out of. Wish I could make it back out to the IE to watch!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 21, 2016, 08:22:15 PM
I don't get Pomona, or I don't Whittier, or I don't get Occidental, or I don't get Claremont-Mudd, or, or, or...  My head is gonna explode.   :o

My conference rankings look like an Escher lithograph.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 25, 2016, 11:47:02 AM
SCIAC predictions for the week

Chapman sweeps Caltech
Pomona drops 2 of 3 (already lost yesterday) to Pacific
Cal Lu sweeps Claremont
Redlands sweeps Occidental.  Oxy's tough road begins today.
La Verne wins 2 of 3 against Whittier. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on March 25, 2016, 03:57:20 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 25, 2016, 11:47:02 AM
SCIAC predictions for the week

Chapman sweeps Caltech
Pomona drops 2 of 3 (already lost yesterday) to Pacific
Cal Lu sweeps Claremont
Redlands sweeps Occidental.  Oxy's tough road begins today.
La Verne wins 2 of 3 against Whittier.


Cal Lu isn't exactly dominating these days.   Not sure why.  They thought of themselves coming into the season as major contender to win the Div III World Series.   Not even clear they will win the SCIAC.   They trips and teams they added to increase their SOS in case they don't win the SCIAC and had to rely on an at large bid  needed to yield more quality wins.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on March 26, 2016, 09:17:27 PM
Notes from Pacific's sweep of Pomona-Pitzer:

-PP scored 29 runs in three games against a good Pacific team
-PP still outscored by 31 runs on the weekend
-PP pitchers allow 16 baserunners on walks and HBP's today
-PP has only hit 8 HRs through 22 games. Granted, this is a righty-heavy lineup with a deep leftfield and lots of home games. Still not typical of this offense- particularly Rosenbaum with 0 (though he does have 13 doubles).
-Pacific can swing it. They got a lot of extra baserunners, but you don't score 20 runs/game without swinging it. A lot of their outs today were well-struck too.

The Hens need to clean it up on the mound and in the field. They're hitting the ball and getting on base even if the power numbers are a bit lower than usual (.333 BA/.421 OBP/.432 SLG slash line), but they need consistency from their bullpen to have a chance at cracking the conference playoffs. Every SCIAC series is huge from here on out, and this weekend against Oxy especially. PP has a Tuesday game against Pac Lu, so I'm assuming they'll go staff start to save arms (which I believe they did in their last mid-week game against Bates). Hopefully they can regroup and start reeling off some more W's.

Go Hens!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on March 26, 2016, 10:36:04 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 25, 2016, 11:47:02 AM
SCIAC predictions for the week

Chapman sweeps Caltech
Pomona drops 2 of 3 (already lost yesterday) to Pacific
Cal Lu sweeps Claremont
Redlands sweeps Occidental.  Oxy's tough road begins today.
La Verne wins 2 of 3 against Whittier.

Well,   Chapman did sweep Cal Tech and Cal Lu did sweep Claremont.   So you're batting .400.   Most surprised by Redlands not taking down Occidental.   Maybe Occidental is for real?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 26, 2016, 11:05:39 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on March 26, 2016, 10:36:04 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 25, 2016, 11:47:02 AM
SCIAC predictions for the week

Chapman sweeps Caltech
Pomona drops 2 of 3 (already lost yesterday) to Pacific
Cal Lu sweeps Claremont
Redlands sweeps Occidental.  Oxy's tough road begins today.
La Verne wins 2 of 3 against Whittier.

Well,   Chapman did sweep Cal Tech and Cal Lu did sweep Claremont.   So you're batting .400.   Most surprised by Redlands not taking down Occidental.   Maybe Occidental is for real?

1- I have no idea what in the world is going on with Pomona.  They better figure it out real fast or this season will slip away from them.
2- Not surprised by Chapman and Cal Lu sweeping, although game 3 between CMS and Cal Lu was a tough one.
3- Huge weekend for Whittier.  Slugfest yesterday and a couple of close ones today. 
4- Big bounce back by Oxy today taking 2 at Redlands.  I'm not sold on them at all, and this really hurts Redlands.  Every time they got the lead, Oxy came right back at them and got some huge hits.

The SCIAC is pretty crazy right now and I think it will come down to the wire.  Plenty of baseball to be played and who knows what will happen.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 28, 2016, 07:33:45 PM
Occidental is the kind of team that you look at them in warm-ups and you feel like, "yeah I think we can handle these guys," then after you lose to them you wonder how the heck that just happened?  WC led all 3 games early, then just watched as Oxy methodically overtook each lead and put us away.

No way did I see Oxy taking 2 of 3 from UR.  Maybe they are living charmed lives for now, but you have to credit them at some point.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 28, 2016, 08:29:49 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 28, 2016, 07:33:45 PM
Occidental is the kind of team that you look at them in warm-ups and you feel like, "yeah I think we can handle these guys," then after you lose to them you wonder how the heck that just happened?  WC led all 3 games early, then just watched as Oxy methodically overtook each lead and put us away.

No way did I see Oxy taking 2 of 3 from UR.  Maybe they are living charmed lives for now, but you have to credit them at some point.

I will give them the credit they deserve right now.  Oxy is like Whitworth in the NWC...not the greatest players in the world but they have a system in place and every guy has bought into it.  They play their butts off and play the way they know how to play.  They aren't going to out-slug anyone but they will use their speed and aggressive play to scratch out runs.  I haven't seen them play much but they have some pretty impressive numbers on the mound.  Looks like they use 5 guys for a majority of their innings and those guys have been getting it done.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 28, 2016, 09:50:29 PM
Eating a little Crow there Jack? I kinda am with you, looking at their numbers I did not expect that, but again from a purely numbers point of view. But as we all know baseball is what goes on between the lines and numbers trail...

Maybe a bit like La Vern's Regional team last year? They weren't the most talented team there but man did they compete!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 28, 2016, 11:12:06 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 28, 2016, 09:50:29 PM

Maybe a bit like La Verne's Regional team last year? They weren't the most talented team there but man did they compete!
To wit, LaVerne went 2-2 in the Regional.  (An 18-10 conference record!) I maintain that the West is consistently the strongest and most balanced region in the country.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 29, 2016, 10:08:49 AM
Of few years ago the players from Trinity had heard that from a number of the Linfield players that the hardest part of the CWS was getting to Appleton as the teams overall were tougher in the West Regional. I had the same impression last year. Don't get me wrong, everyone in Appleton deserved to be there, but in general the West teams were tougher opponents.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on March 29, 2016, 11:25:01 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 28, 2016, 11:12:06 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 28, 2016, 09:50:29 PM


To wit, LaVerne went 2-2 in the Regional.  (An 18-10 conference record!) I maintain that the West is consistently the strongest and most balanced region in the country.

The West Region definitely has some strong teams in it.  There are some great programs that maintain success every year as well as programs that are more cyclical, but still have good reputations.  However, I will offer another example.  Oberlin College  from the NCAC (Mid East region) made regionals last year by winning the conference tournament.  They were 6-13 in conference prior to the tournament.  In their first game at regionals they led national champion Cortland St 4-3 before Cortland scored 3 in the bottom of the 8th to win 6-4.  Oberlin ended up going 3-2 in regionals and eliminated 3 teams along the way.  Using the same logic, the other teams in Oberlin's conference must be super teams if Oberlin only went 6-13 in that conference but then went 3-2 in regionals.

Obviously, I am  only using one team as an example.  The case with Oberlin is that they had a lot of seniors and they got hot at the right time.  My point is that it is difficult to support an argument or make a point using only one team or one year as an example.  There are too many variables and too many regions that do not have play each other to determine who is best.  Do you go with which region has the most national titles?  Which region has the most teams that make the World Series?  Just too difficult to figure out.

It is great fodder for discussion though!  That is what makes sports great!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on March 29, 2016, 12:04:23 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on March 29, 2016, 11:25:01 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 28, 2016, 11:12:06 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 28, 2016, 09:50:29 PM


To wit, LaVerne went 2-2 in the Regional.  (An 18-10 conference record!) I maintain that the West is consistently the strongest and most balanced region in the country.

The West Region definitely has some strong teams in it.  There are some great programs that maintain success every year as well as programs that are more cyclical, but still have good reputations.  However, I will offer another example.  Oberlin College  from the NCAC (Mid East region) made regionals last year by winning the conference tournament.  They were 6-13 in conference prior to the tournament.  In their first game at regionals they led national champion Cortland St 4-3 innings before Cortland scored 3 in the bottom of the 8th to win 6-4.  Oberlin ended up going 3-2 in regionals and eliminated 3 teams along the way.  Using the same logic, the other teams in Oberlin's conference must be super teams if Oberlin only went 6-13 in that conference but then went 3-2 in regionals.

Obviously, I am  only using one team as an example.  The case with Oberlin is that they had a lot of seniors and they got hot at the right time.  My point is that it is difficult to support an argument or make a point using only one team or one year as an example.  There are too many variables and too many regions that do not have play each other to determine who is best.  Do you go with which region has the most national titles?  Which region has the most teams that make the World Series?  Just too difficult to figure out.

It is great fodder for discussion though!  That is what makes sports great!

To add on that, I was a part of a very strong PP team in 2010 that got bounced from the regionals after winning our first two games- including one against eventual champ Linfield. They looked phenomenal when they eventually beat us though, and I thought they'd dominate the World Series. Low and behold, Illinois Wesleyan- a team who finished the regular season with a losing record- completed their cinderella run, knocking off Linfield on the way, to win it all. You never know what can happen in the postseason!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on March 29, 2016, 04:59:57 PM
True, anything can happen in the post season, but I also believe the examples above also point to how their really isn't that great a gap between the top teams in D3 and the next 150 or so teams below......
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 29, 2016, 05:17:54 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on March 29, 2016, 04:59:57 PM
True, anything can happen in the post season, but I also believe the examples above also point to how their really isn't that great a gap between the top teams in D3 and the next 150 or so teams below......

Actually my experience is the exact opposite. IMO there is a much LARGER gap between say the top 25-35 teams at D3 than you find at the D1 level. Most top 25 D3 teams would decimate teams ranked below 50. The only reason it does not get uglier in those games are that they are either 1) Run rulled or 2) Coaches start to put in freshmen.  In post season play it is all about getting hot at the right time and because of the brackets some luck involved. To Ralph's point the gap in the West tends to be less than other places.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on March 29, 2016, 06:06:08 PM
108, we can agree to disagree on that point, I know we both had 4 years of watching games firsthand.  I've just seen too many conference games where sub-500 teams beat a top 25 or so team, and even hang tough for a three game set.  When you start talking about top 10 teams nationally, yes I agree, the gap does then become more pronounced.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2016, 12:49:34 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 29, 2016, 05:17:54 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on March 29, 2016, 04:59:57 PM
True, anything can happen in the post season, but I also believe the examples above also point to how their really isn't that great a gap between the top teams in D3 and the next 150 or so teams below......

Actually my experience is the exact opposite. IMO there is a much LARGER gap between say the top 25-35 teams at D3 than you find at the D1 level. Most top 25 D3 teams would decimate teams ranked below 50. The only reason it does not get uglier in those games are that they are either 1) Run rulled or 2) Coaches start to put in freshmen.  In post season play it is all about getting hot at the right time and because of the brackets some luck involved. To Ralph's point the gap in the West tends to be less than other places.
Also, I do not believe Run rule is a NCAA rule. It is possibly a conference rule. So I do not think we can apply that across the division. I have seen some pretty lopsided games go agains and for OWU and never saw a run rule.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2016, 12:53:46 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on March 29, 2016, 06:06:08 PM
108, we can agree to disagree on that point, I know we both had 4 years of watching games firsthand.  I've just seen too many conference games where sub-500 teams beat a top 25 or so team, and even hang tough for a three game set.  When you start talking about top 10 teams nationally, yes I agree, the gap does then become more pronounced.
I will add to that. Conference teams are much more familiar with each other. It makes it more likely that a lower team in any conference will take unexpected games from a conference leader. Except in some extreme cases.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 31, 2016, 03:21:20 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on March 29, 2016, 12:04:23 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on March 29, 2016, 11:25:01 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 28, 2016, 11:12:06 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 28, 2016, 09:50:29 PM


To wit, LaVerne went 2-2 in the Regional.  (An 18-10 conference record!) I maintain that the West is consistently the strongest and most balanced region in the country.

The West Region definitely has some strong teams in it.  There are some great programs that maintain success every year as well as programs that are more cyclical, but still have good reputations.  However, I will offer another example.  Oberlin College  from the NCAC (Mid East region) made regionals last year by winning the conference tournament.  They were 6-13 in conference prior to the tournament.  In their first game at regionals they led national champion Cortland St 4-3 innings before Cortland scored 3 in the bottom of the 8th to win 6-4.  Oberlin ended up going 3-2 in regionals and eliminated 3 teams along the way.  Using the same logic, the other teams in Oberlin's conference must be super teams if Oberlin only went 6-13 in that conference but then went 3-2 in regionals.

Obviously, I am  only using one team as an example.  The case with Oberlin is that they had a lot of seniors and they got hot at the right time.  My point is that it is difficult to support an argument or make a point using only one team or one year as an example.  There are too many variables and too many regions that do not have play each other to determine who is best.  Do you go with which region has the most national titles?  Which region has the most teams that make the World Series?  Just too difficult to figure out.

It is great fodder for discussion though!  That is what makes sports great!

To add on that, I was a part of a very strong PP team in 2010 that got bounced from the regionals after winning our first two games- including one against eventual champ Linfield. They looked phenomenal when they eventually beat us though, and I thought they'd dominate the World Series. Low and behold, Illinois Wesleyan- a team who finished the regular season with a losing record- completed their cinderella run, knocking off Linfield on the way, to win it all. You never know what can happen in the postseason!

As a Titan who followed that season closely, this is nearly correct, but not quite.  They started their run with a week left in the regular season, finishing just barely over .500, then rolled thru the conference tourney, the regional, and the world series with only two losses total!  In the final game (after Cortland had eliminated Linfield), IWU had 3 in the third to go up 4-2, then 4 in the fourth, then blew the game to smithereens with 9 in the fifth.  Both coaches showed good sportsmanship and soon emptied the benches and bullpens - everyone deserves a chance to play in a tournament game which is clearly over.  (BTW, that game also proved there is no run rule in the postseason, as it went full length despite the Titans being up by 15.)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 01, 2016, 08:13:36 PM
Dear Cal Lu Video Director,

With Bases loaded with 2 out in the bottom of the 8th, the correct camera angle during the play is always behind home plate.

In fact, during the play at hand the correct camera angle is always behind the plate.

Note for future use:  the side camera angles are for between pitches.

Thank you.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 01, 2016, 08:31:45 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 01, 2016, 08:13:36 PM
Dear Cal Lu Video Director,

With Bases loaded with 2 out in the bottom of the 8th, the correct camera angle during the play is always behind home plate.

In fact, during the play at hand the correct camera angle is always behind the plate.

Note for future use:  the side camera angles are for between pitches.

Thank you.

It makes watching these game damn near impossible.  Barely see any of the balls being hit.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 01, 2016, 08:49:42 PM
Tight game at Sparky Park...Poets' Freshman Turpen turned in another excellent pitching performance, but Cal Lu grinds it out.  I like what I'm seeing these last few games...we are gaining the ability to stay in close games and take our shot against good teams.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: NWBaseballFan10 on April 02, 2016, 06:03:39 PM
A walkoff grand slam heartbreaker for Caltech this afternoon :( I thought we were finally going to see that first SCIAC victory.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 02, 2016, 08:55:09 PM
Quote from: NWBaseballFan10 on April 02, 2016, 06:03:39 PM
A walkoff grand slam heartbreaker for Caltech this afternoon :( I thought we were finally going to see that first SCIAC victory.
After taking the lead on an unearned run in the top of the 10th, too!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 02, 2016, 09:04:48 PM
Quote from: NWBaseballFan10 on April 02, 2016, 06:03:39 PM
A walkoff grand slam heartbreaker for Caltech this afternoon :( I thought we were finally going to see that first SCIAC victory.

That just sucks.  I was really rooting for them to pull it out.

Oxy keeps it rolling with a sweep of Pomona.  Gerics didn't pitch this weekend for Pomona. Teddy, any knowledge of why?
Chapman sweeps Redlands which really hurts Redlands.  I don't see them losing again before the Final 4 games but they have some serious work to do to get a spot in the tournament.
Cal Lu swept Whittier in a very close series.  Whittier pitching did a good job of keeping them in it.
CMS sweeps Caltech.  So close to getting a Beaver win.
La Verne gives up 29 runs to PLU in 2 games.  Not sure I have ever seen that out of the ULV pitching.  Not a good sign.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 03, 2016, 01:06:46 AM
3 games of a hotly contested series, but Cal Lu showed more poise at key moments, which carried them to the sweep.  WC led in each game but could not seal the deal...that's us right now.

IMHO Cal Lu seems to be the most complete SCIAC team (pitching, hitting, defense, savvy) that we've played thus far, but by no means are they beyond our reach.

Now we get Chapman fresh off a 3 game sweep of Redlands.  No breaks. No days off.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 07, 2016, 05:19:07 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 02, 2016, 09:04:48 PM
Quote from: NWBaseballFan10 on April 02, 2016, 06:03:39 PM
A walkoff grand slam heartbreaker for Caltech this afternoon :( I thought we were finally going to see that first SCIAC victory.

That just sucks.  I was really rooting for them to pull it out.

Oxy keeps it rolling with a sweep of Pomona.  Gerics didn't pitch this weekend for Pomona. Teddy, any knowledge of why?
Chapman sweeps Redlands which really hurts Redlands.  I don't see them losing again before the Final 4 games but they have some serious work to do to get a spot in the tournament.
Cal Lu swept Whittier in a very close series.  Whittier pitching did a good job of keeping them in it.
CMS sweeps Caltech.  So close to getting a Beaver win.
La Verne gives up 29 runs to PLU in 2 games.  Not sure I have ever seen that out of the ULV pitching.  Not a good sign.

Gerics was injured, but from what I've heard it's not particularly serious and he should be back shortly. Lord knows we need him the way things have been going... This weekend against Cal Lu will be tough regardless.

Also- very disappointing to see Cal Tech go all the way to extra innings, take a lead, and still miss that streak-breaking win (especially against CMS  :P). They've done a pretty good job of putting runs on the board this year, and have largely avoided pitching/defensive implosions. I'm crossing my fingers that they get that first win before the PP series to close out the regular season. Go Beavers!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 10, 2016, 02:53:21 PM
Another pair of nail biters at Chapman, but this time we bent but didn't break in taking game 2 in 12 innings.  3 freshman pitchers did a nice job not allowing that one big inning.  Game 1 had the same arc, but a couple things broke one way instead of the other and Chapman took advantage.  Game could have gone either way.

Lots of extra-curricular shenanigans to add some spice to the series.  They resume the Friday game this afternoon.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 11, 2016, 01:56:30 AM
WC takes the series in the postponed wild one where the Poets tacked on 3 more in the second (after 9 in the first) and held on for 7 innings.

Cal Tech next, can't let up and give those guys 1" +/- .001"   ;)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 18, 2016, 02:29:08 AM
Last Series this next weekend plus the Round Robin.

According to my calculations Oxy, Cal Lu, and Redlands are in; with Chapman holding a 5 game lead with 7 to play for the 4th spot.  Chapman can overtake Redlands and holds the tiebreaker between the two.  Whittier :o, and La Verne still have mathematical chances.  With ULV and Chapman head to head this week, the Leopards - losers of 10 in a row - have a last chance to right the ship and claw back in for an opportunity to defend their SCIAC Tourney crown.

WC holds the tiebreaker against both teams should a 3-way tie happen or if the Poets tie with either one.  Chapman holds the tiebreaker over ULV.  WC has to get past CMS, who have proven to be dangerous...and it's not like the Poets exactly lit up Cal Tech this weekend.  Then WC must continue the improbable and win out in the R-R.  However, it's a chance, however unlikely, it's fun to be still in the mix.

As Captain Amazing once said, "Is it a good plan...no...but I think that's what I like about it."  Then he got zapped by the psychofraculator.   8-)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 18, 2016, 02:35:46 AM
I said it last year and I will repeat it:  My hat is tipped to the Cal Tech coaching staff and their players.  That their players remain this motivated after they get to this point of the season, says something big of their character.  The improvement is observable.  They still have 3 games to go, and while I am not sure this year is the year; if they keep progressing, next year may indeed be the year.  And they very well could win more than one once they get going.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Westside on April 18, 2016, 12:19:07 PM
So Occidental is 24-1 over there last 25 games... I know the SCIAC is down this year, but has anyone seen them that can give me some more insight? Obviously, DeRaad is legit; but what about the rest of their offense? Will they hit when they face teams with good pitching? Freshman Will Martel is 8-0 with a 1.69 ERA, but he has only 21 strikeouts in 64 innings. Is it a bunch of off-speed stuff or does he just pitch to contact? Their fielding stats are below average... but they keep on winning. Someone give me the scoop to how they 26-5!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 18, 2016, 01:16:31 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 18, 2016, 12:19:07 PM
So Occidental is 24-1 over there last 25 games... I know the SCIAC is down this year, but has anyone seen them that can give me some more insight? Obviously, DeRaad is legit; but what about the rest of their offense? Will they hit when they face teams with good pitching? Freshman Will Martel is 8-0 with a 1.69 ERA, but he has only 21 strikeouts in 64 innings. Is it a bunch of off-speed stuff or does he just pitch to contact? Their fielding stats are below average... but they keep on winning. Someone give me the scoop to how they 26-5!

This weekend's games vs. CLU will be the barometer for that.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 18, 2016, 02:05:25 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 18, 2016, 12:19:07 PM
So Occidental is 24-1 over there last 25 games... I know the SCIAC is down this year, but has anyone seen them that can give me some more insight? Obviously, DeRaad is legit; but what about the rest of their offense? Will they hit when they face teams with good pitching? Freshman Will Martel is 8-0 with a 1.69 ERA, but he has only 21 strikeouts in 64 innings. Is it a bunch of off-speed stuff or does he just pitch to contact? Their fielding stats are below average... but they keep on winning. Someone give me the scoop to how they 26-5!
Respectfully, everyone is saying that the West is down, (SCIAC, ASC and maybe the NWC with the perception that Linfield did not make the tourney).  The ASC was competitive with the SCAC which has 3 teams in and around the Top 25.

But, I saw most of the games at the West Region in Tyler and the Region was BALANCED!

Trinity went on the finish 3rd in Wisconsin.

I am not sure that we have a "break-out" dominant team, but I am looking at 12-15 teams in the Region that are in the top 100, even though we are the least numerous region.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 18, 2016, 03:08:46 PM
I am inclined to agree with Sir Ralph.  I think there are a lot of pretty good teams beating up on one another; with the next level down teams taking a bite or two along the way when they get their ace on the hill or get hot at the plate.

My thought is that the team that emerges is so battle worn just to survive the West Region, that they may get to Appleton with tired arms.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 18, 2016, 04:40:18 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 18, 2016, 03:08:46 PM
I am inclined to agree with Sir Ralph.  I think there are a lot of pretty good teams beating up on one another; with the next level down teams taking a bite or two along the way when they get their ace on the hill or get hot at the plate.

My thought is that the team that emerges is so battle worn just to survive the West Region, that they may get to Appleton with tired arms.
... or a core of 16-18 players who have had really tough games with lots of late inning tension such that they are ready for the challenge.

Purple,

from your observation, are the SCIAC contenders developing the #3, #4 and #5 starters and the #2 and #3 set-up men?

I think that was the difference in Trinity. They had developed a deep bullpen in the regular season that help with SCAC tourney, West Region and Nationals.  I think that is one of the strengths that we see in the WIAC, the NJAC, Cortland and New England teams... bullpen depth.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 18, 2016, 05:15:32 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 18, 2016, 12:19:07 PM
So Occidental is 24-1 over there last 25 games... I know the SCIAC is down this year, but has anyone seen them that can give me some more insight? Obviously, DeRaad is legit; but what about the rest of their offense? Will they hit when they face teams with good pitching? Freshman Will Martel is 8-0 with a 1.69 ERA, but he has only 21 strikeouts in 64 innings. Is it a bunch of off-speed stuff or does he just pitch to contact? Their fielding stats are below average... but they keep on winning. Someone give me the scoop to how they 26-5!

I have been pretty open in regards to Oxy and my thought that they really aren't as strong as it might seem, but they have done everything they have needed to do.  Oxy has a huge series this weekend with Cal Lu and looking back on their season, this will be the best team they have played so far.  Oxy's non-conference scheduling is pretty weak, and all at home.

I have also said that I will give credit to Oxy for winning the way they have.  The following are games they won very late, and if these were losses, we wouldn't even be talking about them.

2/13 Willamette- scored 2 in the 9th for a walk-off win, win 8-7
3/4 @Claremont- scored 3 in the top of the 9th to win 6-4
3/5 Claremont- 2 run walk-off bomb in the 11th, win 9-7
3/13 @Whittier- 5 runs in the top of the 9th, win 10-7
3/19 Rutgers-Newark- Walk off win 3-2
3/26 @Redlands- 1 in the 9th after 2 out and nobody on, hit by pitch then a triple.  7-6 win
4/1 Pomona Pitzer- 2 in the 9th for a 7-6 walk-off win
4/16 Puget Sound- 2 in the 9th for a 2-1 walk-off win

Oxy has done a great job this year not giving up.  As I said before, this will be their biggest test of the year and Cal Lu will be more than ready.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on April 18, 2016, 05:21:48 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 18, 2016, 04:40:18 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 18, 2016, 03:08:46 PM
I am inclined to agree with Sir Ralph.  I think there are a lot of pretty good teams beating up on one another; with the next level down teams taking a bite or two along the way when they get their ace on the hill or get hot at the plate.

My thought is that the team that emerges is so battle worn just to survive the West Region, that they may get to Appleton with tired arms.
... or a core of 16-18 players who have had really tough games with lots of late inning tension such that they are ready for the challenge.

Purple,

from your observation, are the SCIAC contenders developing the #3, #4 and #5 starters and the #2 and #3 set-up men?

I think that was the difference in Trinity. They had developed a deep bullpen in the regular season that help with SCAC tourney, West Region and Nationals.  I think that is one of the strengths that we see in the WIAC, the NJAC, Cortland and New England teams... bullpen depth.

I think that's a function of all the snow outs and rain outs and the concentrated schedules that result.  They have to use more guys.   So more guys are ready come tournament time. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 18, 2016, 08:32:41 PM
Ralph,

I would agree with you regarding the West. At the beginning of the season there were not the traditional West powers making noise, so the thought was the "West was down"  however over time other teams have stepped up, including a surprising to some folks, Whitworth due to their losses last year. Centenary and TLU are two strong teams to be feared, Occidental as we have been talking about, as well as consistently competitive teams from UTT and CLU are in the top 25.

I also agree with you regarding Trinity as I watched them for four years go to the West Regional and be one of the top teams there, but with just a tad too little pitching to get them through to Appleton. Clearly in 2013 they were probably the second best team in the country, they just happened to be in the Regional with the best. I expect to see the same in the West regional. TLU or Centenary could knock off Trinity in the SCAC conference, who knows what is going to happen in the SCIAC and NWest, but it is possible to see three at large teams come out of the West depending on what happens in their tournaments, and I certainly did not see that possibility at the beginning of the season.

It is going to be an interesting couple of weeks.

SCAC_Baseball - Welcome - Nice to have someone else to "talk to"
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 18, 2016, 09:05:10 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 18, 2016, 08:32:41 PM

but it is possible to see three at large teams come out of the West depending on what happens in their tournaments, and I certainly did not see that possibility at the beginning of the season.


I think the NWC and SCAC are 1-bid conferences UNLESS Whitworth or Trinity fails to win their tournaments.  I would say Cal Lu and Oxy are rooting for those 2 to win their tournaments, then play each other in the SCIAC tourney final and both (maybe) get in.  Of course, a lot can change in the SCIAC with 7 games left for Cal Lu and Oxy (3 against each other) before the tournament.  I also see the ASC as a 1-bid league if the favorite (I have no idea who that is at this point) fails to win the ASC tourney.

At this point, Trinity and Whitworth seem like a lock for a Pool C, unless they both go 0-5 the rest of the way, which I do not see happening.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 19, 2016, 02:20:59 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 18, 2016, 04:40:18 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 18, 2016, 03:08:46 PM
I am inclined to agree with Sir Ralph.  I think there are a lot of pretty good teams beating up on one another; with the next level down teams taking a bite or two along the way when they get their ace on the hill or get hot at the plate.

My thought is that the team that emerges is so battle worn just to survive the West Region, that they may get to Appleton with tired arms.
... or a core of 16-18 players who have had really tough games with lots of late inning tension such that they are ready for the challenge.

Purple,

from your observation, are the SCIAC contenders developing the #3, #4 and #5 starters and the #2 and #3 set-up men?

I think that was the difference in Trinity. They had developed a deep bullpen in the regular season that help with SCAC tourney, West Region and Nationals.  I think that is one of the strengths that we see in the WIAC, the NJAC, Cortland and New England teams... bullpen depth.

I am not sure any SCIAC team is truly 5 deep in starters.  I would say that both Cal Lu and Oxy appear have developed #2, #3 setups and a defined closer in the bullpen.  I don't have a good read on Chapman.  I think Redlands' relatively small roster may have gassed some of their pitching.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 20, 2016, 07:22:48 PM
Thanks Purple.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 23, 2016, 10:12:05 PM
Nice job by Oxy taking 2/3 from Cal Lu.  This sets up the round-robin portion of the SCIAC schedule (4 games) and the SCIAC tournament teams are set with Oxy, Cal Lu, Chapman and Redlands.  There could be some shuffling after the round-robin but the 5 seed can't catch up.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 24, 2016, 09:42:44 PM
Entering the SCIAC Round Robin
1. Occidental
2. Cal Lutheran
3. Chapman. (Owns TB over Redlands)
4. Redlands
5. Whittier
6. Pomona-Pitzer (Owns TB over La Verne)
7. La Verne
8. Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
9. Cal Tech
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 24, 2016, 09:43:34 PM
Hi my name is Jack.
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Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 25, 2016, 09:05:55 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 24, 2016, 09:43:34 PM
Hi my name is Jack.
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Pretty much...

Oxy did everything they needed to do this year and they finally won a series against a good team.  It sure looks like they will be the #1 seed for the SCIAC Tournament unless something wild happens over the next week.  Even with Oxy winning the regular season title, I think the tournament is anyone's game and the auto-bid is up in the air.  The real question for Oxy is whether or not they have done enough for a Pool C bid in case they don't get the auto.  PLU winning the NWC tournament really hurts a lot of teams throughout the country hoping for an at-large.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 25, 2016, 10:10:39 AM
I would agree with you. It will be interesting to see what the Regional rankings look like when they come out. As PLU showed, the most important thing is to get hot at the right time. I don't really like this whole round robin thing they do in the SCIAC as teams like CalTech should not be playing in it and are pretty much meaningless for a team like Oxy, actually it hurts them as their SOS drops and many times teams play down to their competition. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 25, 2016, 01:46:06 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 24, 2016, 09:43:34 PM
Hi my name is Jack.
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Jack, you post your opinions and assessments. We cannot ask for anything more.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 25, 2016, 04:50:05 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 25, 2016, 01:46:06 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 24, 2016, 09:43:34 PM
Hi my name is Jack.
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Jack, you post your opinions and assessments. We cannot ask for anything more.

Thanks, Ralph.  I try (often fail) to stay fair but I am a fan and that's what fans do sometimes.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 25, 2016, 06:22:39 PM
Hey Ralph we are just having some fun with this one. I am right up there with Jack thinking that Oxy was going nowhere earlier in the season based on their weak schedule, but you have to hand it to them for having a breakout season, nice to see a "new face" making some noise in the west. Jack and I are going to have a beer and some wings one of these days. (crow wings that is)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 25, 2016, 08:00:15 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 25, 2016, 10:10:39 AM
I would agree with you. It will be interesting to see what the Regional rankings look like when they come out. As PLU showed, the most important thing is to get hot at the right time. I don't really like this whole round robin thing they do in the SCIAC as teams like CalTech should not be playing in it and are pretty much meaningless for a team like Oxy, actually it hurts them as their SOS drops and many times teams play down to their competition.

You probably know this but the Round Robin is still regular season...Cal Lu still has a shot at first place.  Had Whittier not blown their own legs off on Friday, they would be entering the RR with a mathematical chance at #4...though not a very likely chance.

The RR fills in the full 28 Game schedule in SCIAC regular season since Cal Tech made it a 9 team league...previous was 4x7 for 28 games when it was an 8 team league.

I sorta like the implications of the 3 game series that sets the tiebreakers then the shuffle of the deck a bit to end the season.  It adds a bit of playoff flavor to the final 4 games; and can give the lower 5 teams something to say about the final regular season outcome.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 25, 2016, 08:06:43 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 25, 2016, 10:10:39 AM
I would agree with you. It will be interesting to see what the Regional rankings look like when they come out. As PLU showed, the most important thing is to get hot at the right time. I don't really like this whole round robin thing they do in the SCIAC as teams like CalTech should not be playing in it and are pretty much meaningless for a team like Oxy, actually it hurts them as their SOS drops and many times teams play down to their competition.

Presuming Oxy gets through the 4 game RR unscathed and they finish at least 2nd in the tourney, I have a hard time thinking they won't be in.  If Oxy does a 2 and a BBQ in the SCIAC tourney, it could be trouble for them.   A 2nd place Oxy tourney finish hurts Whitworth.

Otherwise I think this most hurts the second place SCIAC tourney team unless it's Oxy.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on April 25, 2016, 08:33:47 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 25, 2016, 08:00:15 PM


....

The RR fills in the full 28 Game schedule in SCIAC regular season since Cal Tech made it a 9 team league...previous was 4x7 for 28 games when it was an 8 team league.

.....

You mean since CHAPMAN made it a 9 team league.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 25, 2016, 09:08:24 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 25, 2016, 08:06:43 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 25, 2016, 10:10:39 AM
I would agree with you. It will be interesting to see what the Regional rankings look like when they come out. As PLU showed, the most important thing is to get hot at the right time. I don't really like this whole round robin thing they do in the SCIAC as teams like CalTech should not be playing in it and are pretty much meaningless for a team like Oxy, actually it hurts them as their SOS drops and many times teams play down to their competition.

Presuming Oxy gets through the 4 game RR unscathed and they finish at least 2nd in the tourney, I have a hard time thinking they won't be in.  If Oxy does a 2 and a BBQ in the SCIAC tourney, it could be trouble for them.   A 2nd place Oxy tourney finish hurts Whitworth.

Otherwise I think this most hurts the second place SCIAC tourney team unless it's Oxy.

Agreed.  It will be interesting to see what the Regional Rankings show when they come out in a few days.  I would assume Oxy has jumped Whitworth and Oxy has a guaranteed 6 games left, while Whitworth has 3.  I guess it's just a waiting game at this point but I am sure the guys up in Spokane are pulling for teams to beat Oxy or for Oxy to get the Auto-bid.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 25, 2016, 09:09:43 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on April 25, 2016, 08:33:47 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 25, 2016, 08:00:15 PM


....

The RR fills in the full 28 Game schedule in SCIAC regular season since Cal Tech made it a 9 team league...previous was 4x7 for 28 games when it was an 8 team league.

.....

Chapman did make the 9th team and before they entered it was a 24 game SCIAC schedule with a lot more East Coast teams coming to CA to play games.  It's too bad a lot of that ended but I like seeing the teams go to TX and AZ to play games.

You mean since CHAPMAN made it a 9 team league.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 26, 2016, 01:18:55 AM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on April 25, 2016, 08:33:47 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 25, 2016, 08:00:15 PM


....

The RR fills in the full 28 Game schedule in SCIAC regular season since Cal Tech made it a 9 team league...previous was 4x7 for 28 games when it was an 8 team league.

.....

You mean since CHAPMAN made it a 9 team league.

Yes thank you for the correction.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 26, 2016, 01:22:01 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 26, 2016, 01:18:55 AM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on April 25, 2016, 08:33:47 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 25, 2016, 08:00:15 PM


....

The RR fills in the full 28 Game schedule in SCIAC regular season since Cal Tech made it a 9 team league...previous was 4x7 for 28 games when it was an 8 team league.

.....

You mean since CHAPMAN made it a 9 team league.

Yes thank you for the correction.

Cal Tech, Chapman...whatever it takes.   8-)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 26, 2016, 12:52:56 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 26, 2016, 01:22:01 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 26, 2016, 01:18:55 AM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on April 25, 2016, 08:33:47 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 25, 2016, 08:00:15 PM


....

The RR fills in the full 28 Game schedule in SCIAC regular season since Cal Tech made it a 9 team league...previous was 4x7 for 28 games when it was an 8 team league.

.....

You mean since CHAPMAN made it a 9 team league.

Yes thank you for the correction.

Cal Tech, Chapman...whatever it took.   8-)

I get Chapman and Caltech mixed up too :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 26, 2016, 04:01:31 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 26, 2016, 12:52:56 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 26, 2016, 01:22:01 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 26, 2016, 01:18:55 AM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on April 25, 2016, 08:33:47 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 25, 2016, 08:00:15 PM


....

The RR fills in the full 28 Game schedule in SCIAC regular season since Cal Tech made it a 9 team league...previous was 4x7 for 28 games when it was an 8 team league.

.....

You mean since CHAPMAN made it a 9 team league.

Yes thank you for the correction.

Cal Tech, Chapman...whatever it takes.   8-)

I get Chapman and Caltech mixed up too :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6si8Xp8P-M

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 27, 2016, 03:50:25 AM
Conceptually, neither Redlands nor Chapman need to compete for wins in the RR...both need to win the SCIAC tourney championship to gain the NCAA auto playoff berth.  Both can conceivably rest their pitching and starters during the RR to maximize their availability for the SCIAC playoff.

Oxy and Cal Lu have no such luxury as both are hopeful to gain an at large berth if they fail to win the playoff tourney...but losing even one RR game diminishes their at large chances.

Interesting...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 27, 2016, 12:32:37 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 27, 2016, 03:50:25 AM
Conceptually, neither Redlands nor Chapman need to compete for wins in the RR...both need to win the SCIAC tourney championship to gain the NCAA auto playoff berth.  Both can conceivably rest their pitching and starters during the RR to maximize their availability for the SCIAC playoff.

Oxy and Cal Lu have no such luxury as both are hopeful to gain an at large berth if they fail to win the playoff tourney...but losing even one RR game diminishes their at large chances.

Interesting...

I would figure everyone will go out and play like they normally would.  No real sense in giving guys rest at this point of the season.  I could see more pitchers being used and guys not going 7-8 innings.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: NWBaseballFan10 on April 27, 2016, 09:05:14 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 25, 2016, 08:06:43 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 25, 2016, 10:10:39 AM
I would agree with you. It will be interesting to see what the Regional rankings look like when they come out. As PLU showed, the most important thing is to get hot at the right time. I don't really like this whole round robin thing they do in the SCIAC as teams like CalTech should not be playing in it and are pretty much meaningless for a team like Oxy, actually it hurts them as their SOS drops and many times teams play down to their competition.

Presuming Oxy gets through the 4 game RR unscathed and they finish at least 2nd in the tourney, I have a hard time thinking they won't be in.  If Oxy does a 2 and a BBQ in the SCIAC tourney, it could be trouble for them.   A 2nd place Oxy tourney finish hurts Whitworth.

Otherwise I think this most hurts the second place SCIAC tourney team unless it's Oxy.

This afternoon provided a prime example of the RR games hindering a top team's Pool C chances. A loss for Oxy against CMS is just one more potential nail the selection committee can use against Oxy if they don't win the SCIAC tourney.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 28, 2016, 08:42:22 AM
Quote from: NWBaseballFan10 on April 27, 2016, 09:05:14 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 25, 2016, 08:06:43 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 25, 2016, 10:10:39 AM
I would agree with you. It will be interesting to see what the Regional rankings look like when they come out. As PLU showed, the most important thing is to get hot at the right time. I don't really like this whole round robin thing they do in the SCIAC as teams like CalTech should not be playing in it and are pretty much meaningless for a team like Oxy, actually it hurts them as their SOS drops and many times teams play down to their competition.

Presuming Oxy gets through the 4 game RR unscathed and they finish at least 2nd in the tourney, I have a hard time thinking they won't be in.  If Oxy does a 2 and a BBQ in the SCIAC tourney, it could be trouble for them.   A 2nd place Oxy tourney finish hurts Whitworth.

Otherwise I think this most hurts the second place SCIAC tourney team unless it's Oxy.

This afternoon provided a prime example of the RR games hindering a top team's Pool C chances. A loss for Oxy against CMS is just one more potential nail the selection committee can use against Oxy if they don't win the SCIAC tourney.

The same could be said for ANY conference though. Sometimes top teams lose to bottom-dwellers... it's the nature of the game and OXY will have no one to blame but themselves if they miss out as a result. Plain and simple, teams that SHOULD be in SHOULD NOT lose to CMS.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 28, 2016, 09:30:00 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 28, 2016, 08:42:22 AM
Quote from: NWBaseballFan10 on April 27, 2016, 09:05:14 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 25, 2016, 08:06:43 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 25, 2016, 10:10:39 AM
I would agree with you. It will be interesting to see what the Regional rankings look like when they come out. As PLU showed, the most important thing is to get hot at the right time. I don't really like this whole round robin thing they do in the SCIAC as teams like CalTech should not be playing in it and are pretty much meaningless for a team like Oxy, actually it hurts them as their SOS drops and many times teams play down to their competition.

Presuming Oxy gets through the 4 game RR unscathed and they finish at least 2nd in the tourney, I have a hard time thinking they won't be in.  If Oxy does a 2 and a BBQ in the SCIAC tourney, it could be trouble for them.   A 2nd place Oxy tourney finish hurts Whitworth.

Otherwise I think this most hurts the second place SCIAC tourney team unless it's Oxy.

This afternoon provided a prime example of the RR games hindering a top team's Pool C chances. A loss for Oxy against CMS is just one more potential nail the selection committee can use against Oxy if they don't win the SCIAC tourney.

The same could be said for ANY conference though. Sometimes top teams lose to bottom-dwellers... it's the nature of the game and OXY will have no one to blame but themselves if they miss out as a result. Plain and simple, teams that SHOULD be in SHOULD NOT lose to CMS.

A SOS of 191 and another game with Caltech will not impress the guys who make the decisions.  The conference tournament will help help the SOS but that is a bad loss this time of the year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 28, 2016, 10:17:36 AM
The first regional rankings out today will tell us a LOT of what the NCAA thinks of Oxy... traditionally the NCAA favors teams with a strong SoS. My guess is Oxy will be in the middle to bottom of the West Region rankings as a result of the SoS.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 28, 2016, 10:18:30 AM
I don't know the process, but I am sure the committee is looking at W/L the last 10 games of the year to see how the team is performing going into the tournament, and I agree with BigPoppa that you don't lose to a team like CMS heading into the conf tournament. I am sure there was a huge letdown from the CLU series the prior week-end but championship teams win those types of games. It will be interesting to see where Oxy is when the regional rankings come out.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: NWBaseballFan10 on April 28, 2016, 10:22:39 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 28, 2016, 10:18:30 AM
I don't know the process, but I am sure the committee is looking at W/L the last 10 games of the year to see how the team is performing going into the tournament, and I agree with BigPoppa that you don't lose to a team like CMS heading into the conf tournament. I am sure there was a huge letdown from the CLU series the prior week-end but championship teams win those types of games. It will be interesting to see where Oxy is when the regional rankings come out.

That's why the games are played and decided on the field and not on paper ;)

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 28, 2016, 10:39:02 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 28, 2016, 10:18:30 AM
I don't know the process, but I am sure the committee is looking at W/L the last 10 games of the year to see how the team is performing going into the tournament, and I agree with BigPoppa that you don't lose to a team like CMS heading into the conf tournament. I am sure there was a huge letdown from the CLU series the prior week-end but championship teams win those types of games. It will be interesting to see where Oxy is when the regional rankings come out.

Unless things have changed, "the last 10 games" has no bearing on their selections... a game in Feb/March counts just as much as a mid-May game.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bmo on April 28, 2016, 12:43:51 PM
According to this link, Win-Loss Percentage in the last 25% of the season is part of the primary selection criteria this year.  It is qualified with "if applicable", whatever that means.

http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2016DIIIMBAPreChampsManual_20150203.pdf
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 28, 2016, 01:44:07 PM
Quote from: Bmo on April 28, 2016, 12:43:51 PM
According to this link, Win-Loss Percentage in the last 25% of the season is part of the primary selection criteria this year.  It is qualified with "if applicable", whatever that means.

http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2016DIIIMBAPreChampsManual_20150203.pdf

That means they CAN use it if they want then, but not required to... makes it much more subjective. This must be a new criteria as I don't think it was used before (I always defer to Ralph on these things).
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on April 28, 2016, 04:09:56 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 28, 2016, 01:44:07 PM
Quote from: Bmo on April 28, 2016, 12:43:51 PM
According to this link, Win-Loss Percentage in the last 25% of the season is part of the primary selection criteria this year.  It is qualified with "if applicable", whatever that means.

http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2016DIIIMBAPreChampsManual_20150203.pdf

That means they CAN use it if they want then, but not required to... makes it much more subjective. This must be a new criteria as I don't think it was used before (I always defer to Ralph on these things).

I think it's a good thing.  Wouldn't want to overly reward teams for a hot or cold start.   I mean if a team gets hot down the stretch after a cold start or cold down the stretch after a hot start, but otherwise have similar records, strength of schedule,  wouldn't you prefer to have the hot hand in rather than the cold hand?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 28, 2016, 04:37:54 PM
Of course Regional rankings are on the full schedule, but if it was me and I was sitting down trying to determine the last few slots in a Regional I am going to take a team that is playing better at the end of the season than one who might have been strong early and faded as others around them got better. These are purely hypothetical of course.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 28, 2016, 05:08:13 PM
First Ranking is out:

West Region
1    Trinity (Texas)    30-7-0 ( 0.811)    32-7-0 ( 0.821)
2    Occidental    28-5-0 ( 0.848)    28-6-0 ( 0.824)
3    Whitworth    27-10-0 ( 0.730)    27-10-0 ( 0.730)
4    Cal Lutheran    24-10-0 ( 0.706)    24-11-0 ( 0.686)
5    Concordia (Texas)    21-12-0 ( 0.636)    24-12-0 ( 0.667)
6    Texas Lutheran     24-13-0 ( 0.649)    24-13-0 ( 0.649)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 29, 2016, 04:47:08 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 28, 2016, 10:18:30 AM
I don't know the process, but I am sure the committee is looking at W/L the last 10 games of the year to see how the team is performing going into the tournament, and I agree with BigPoppa that you don't lose to a team like CMS heading into the conf tournament. I am sure there was a huge letdown from the CLU series the prior week-end but championship teams win those types of games. It will be interesting to see where Oxy is when the regional rankings come out.
Last 10 games have not been a criterion in previous seasons.  (altho' I have not seen the 2016 Handbook).
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 29, 2016, 05:32:59 PM
In another thread someone posted that the handbook has last 25% of the season to be weighted, but not sure what that means.  ::)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 29, 2016, 06:35:44 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 29, 2016, 05:32:59 PM
In another thread someone posted that the handbook has last 25% of the season to be weighted, but not sure what that means.  ::)
Thanks.  I will look for it.  +1!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on May 01, 2016, 02:11:51 AM
Quote from: NWBaseballFan10 on April 27, 2016, 09:05:14 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 25, 2016, 08:06:43 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 25, 2016, 10:10:39 AM
I would agree with you. It will be interesting to see what the Regional rankings look like when they come out. As PLU showed, the most important thing is to get hot at the right time. I don't really like this whole round robin thing they do in the SCIAC as teams like CalTech should not be playing in it and are pretty much meaningless for a team like Oxy, actually it hurts them as their SOS drops and many times teams play down to their competition.

Presuming Oxy gets through the 4 game RR unscathed and they finish at least 2nd in the tourney, I have a hard time thinking they won't be in.  If Oxy does a 2 and a BBQ in the SCIAC tourney, it could be trouble for them.   A 2nd place Oxy tourney finish hurts Whitworth.

Otherwise I think this most hurts the second place SCIAC tourney team unless it's Oxy.

This afternoon provided a prime example of the RR games hindering a top team's Pool C chances. A loss for Oxy against CMS is just one more potential nail the selection committee can use against Oxy if they don't win the SCIAC tourney.

Oxy lost to PP today.   Unless they win the tourney, they are probably going nowhere.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 01, 2016, 10:25:08 AM
Another loss for Oxy and a SOS of 191 (with Caltech later today) is not a good trend for Oxy.  Being ranked #2 in the West still has them in a pretty good spot right now, but crazier things have happened.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 01, 2016, 11:24:34 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 29, 2016, 06:35:44 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 29, 2016, 05:32:59 PM
In another thread someone posted that the handbook has last 25% of the season to be weighted, but not sure what that means.  ::)
Thanks.  I will look for it.  +1!

Ralph I am so stupid it is in this thread 4-5 posts up.

"According to this link, Win-Loss Percentage in the last 25% of the season is part of the primary selection criteria this year.  It is qualified with "if applicable", whatever that means. "

http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2016DIIIMBAPreChampsManual_20150203.pdf

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on May 01, 2016, 09:04:38 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 01, 2016, 10:25:08 AM
Another loss for Oxy and a SOS of 191 (with Caltech later today) is not a good trend for Oxy.  Being ranked #2 in the West still has them in a pretty good spot right now, but crazier things have happened.

I finally return to this board. I have been off for a long time formerly as CD3. I see Chapman made it to the SCIAC playoff round. Good to season the program having some success. Will the West region get 6 teams in the regional playoffs in 2016 Regional. Teams should treat their Conference as their 1st round if they want to move on to the . Lose and staying home is a real possibility, Occidental has not helped itself with losses in the Round Robin games
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 02, 2016, 11:24:13 AM
Had Oxy lost to Whittier yesterday, it probably would have become a certainty that they would have to win the SCIAC tourney to advance to NCAA's.  As it stands, their grip on an At-Large bid may be slipping.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 02, 2016, 11:36:16 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on May 02, 2016, 11:24:13 AM
...it probably would have become a certainty...

Way to commit to a position Heys.    ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 02, 2016, 12:34:34 PM
Quote from: Bmo on April 28, 2016, 12:43:51 PM
According to this link, Win-Loss Percentage in the last 25% of the season is part of the primary selection criteria this year.  It is qualified with "if applicable", whatever that means.

http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2016DIIIMBAPreChampsManual_20150203.pdf
Thanks, bmo.

I am sorry that I did not have it at my fingertips.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 02, 2016, 01:25:00 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 01, 2016, 10:25:08 AM
Another loss for Oxy and a SOS of 191 (with Caltech later today) is not a good trend for Oxy.  Being ranked #2 in the West still has them in a pretty good spot right now, but crazier things have happened.

Last year, #4 & #5 West Regional Ranking teams were left home.
This includes SCIAC regular winner CLU which lost to LaVerne in playoffs.

Given Oxy's recent slide; plus the fact that if they don't win SCIAC tourney it will mean they'll have 2 more losses.   With weak SOS, I expect the only way Oxy gets in is if they win SCIAC tournament.



Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on May 02, 2016, 03:54:28 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on May 02, 2016, 01:25:00 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 01, 2016, 10:25:08 AM
Another loss for Oxy and a SOS of 191 (with Caltech later today) is not a good trend for Oxy.  Being ranked #2 in the West still has them in a pretty good spot right now, but crazier things have happened.

Last year, #4 & #5 West Regional Ranking teams were left home.
This includes SCIAC regular winner CLU which lost to LaVerne in playoffs.

Given Oxy's recent slide; plus the fact that if they don't win SCIAC tourney it will mean they'll have 2 more losses.   With weak SOS, I expect the only way Oxy gets in is if they win SCIAC tournament.

Was that partly because a number of automatic bids went to unexpected teams?  That seems to be an important factor in the competition for scarce at large bids.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sportsfan on May 02, 2016, 04:00:08 PM
the west seems down this year.  Trinity will be the only SCAC team in the field and guessing same thing with the SCIAC and ASC.  Maybe Whitworth gets an invite because of the cost factor.  I see at least one team and maybe two teams shipped out west.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 02, 2016, 04:24:16 PM
General SCIAC and West post coming...

I am very interested to see what happens in the regional rankings this week.  1) Trinity took care of business in the SCAC and will be the #1 seed in the region. 2) Oxy at #2 had a terrible week after losing to 10-26 Claremont and 19-19 Pomona.  Oxy did come back and win 2 games but they were against Whittier (sorry Heys) and Caltech.  3) Whitworth lost to a pretty bad Puget Sound team but did pick up 2 victories against the same squad.  4) Cal Lu went 3-0 (with game 4 against Redlands later today) and beating Caltech, Pomona and La Verne doesn't do much to boost them, the fact that they didn't lose to bad teams is what matters. 5) Concordia got smoked by TLU early in the week but bounced back with a sweep of UMHB.  Concordia will host one bracket in the ASC tournament that starts this Friday.  6) TLU opened up with a nice win over Concordia but went 1-2 in the SCAC tournament.  Being #6 and dropping these games means they are done.

SCIAC Tournament opens up this Friday with Redland's at Oxy and Chapman at Cal Lu.  As I've said before, I think it's wide open.

SCIAC SOS's

Oxy-221
CLU- 101
Chapman- 111
Redlands- 76

-Conference player of the year is DeRaad without any debate.  He had a MONSTER year with 15 bombs and a .434 average. I dont want to be that guy (but I will be) and say he hit .290 with 1 HR against other SCIAC Tourney teams, but I will say it.
-Coach of the year is easily Wetmore from Oxy.It's been 34 years since they have been relevant, and they have had a pretty darn good year.
-Newcomer of the year is anyone's guess
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 02, 2016, 04:27:18 PM
Quote from: sportsfan on May 02, 2016, 04:00:08 PM
the west seems down this year.  Trinity will be the only SCAC team in the field and guessing same thing with the SCIAC and ASC.  Maybe Whitworth gets an invite because of the cost factor.  I see at least one team and maybe two teams shipped out west.

I think you need to be ranked 2,3 and maybe (a big maybe)4 in the region to get a Pool C.  They are handed out nationally so a lot of it comes down to what happens in other conference tournaments.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 02, 2016, 04:40:05 PM
As Jack pointed out so much depends on what happens in other regions for Pool C bids. CLU seems to be taking care of business, Oxy not so much, but once the tournament starts everything changes. I still think Oxy and CLU both have a chance to go, BUT they will both need to be very impressive in the SCIAC tournament and get to the championship game. Given their proximity and hosing and taking 2/3 this weekend Whitworth should be in I think. TLU blew it over the weekend and they have no chance.

As Southwestern showed this weekend, once the tournament starts records mean bupkis. I really liked how they played this weekend and they frankly just ran out of talent against Trinity. (heart no, talent yes)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 02, 2016, 09:02:31 PM
Cal Lu finishes the round-robin 4-0 and heads into the SCIAC Tournament against Chapman this Friday.  Should be an exciting end to the season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 03, 2016, 12:47:51 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 02, 2016, 04:24:16 PM
Oxy did come back and win 2 games but they were against Whittier (sorry Heys) and Caltech.

Ouch...but if WC had won that Oxy game that would have made our weekend...And we were a play here or play there of doing just that.  Oxy better wake up.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Appalachian Mtns on May 03, 2016, 04:03:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkADj0TPrJA

"[Caltech Baseball]", Tear Down This Wall!

Please do not include another President to the streak since Ronald Reagan with Hillary or Donald taking the oath before the next SCIAC conference game.  :)

Statistically the improvement has been remarkable, so keep it headed in the right direction.  For 2 1/2 hours forget about midterms, and playing on less than 3 hours of sleep game after game, and get it done!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 03, 2016, 08:47:59 PM
Quote from: Appalachian Mtns on May 03, 2016, 04:03:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkADj0TPrJA

"[Caltech Baseball]", Tear Down This Wall!

Please do not include another President to the streak since Ronald Reagan with Hillary or Donald taking the oath before the next SCIAC conference game.  :)

Statistically the improvement has been remarkable, so keep it headed in the right direction.  For 2 1/2 hours forget about midterms, and playing on less than 3 hours of sleep game after game, and get it done!

Umm, no.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Appalachian Mtns on May 03, 2016, 09:26:04 PM
Congratulations to Whittier for taking care of business.  Beavers out hit the Poets, but the lack of timely hits allowing the Poets best pitcher in lefty Garcia to remain on the hill for 8 innings was too much to overcome.

The Beavers failure to turn the double play in the fourth, and missing the opportunity to keep the score at 2 to 1 thru the 6th, together with the bad 4 run 6 inning, was the Beaver's downfall.

Again Congrats to Whittier on the W.

Proud of the entire Caltech Beaver baseball program for the substantial improvement over the past few years.  Glad I will be around three more years to watch the continued improvement despite the terrible odds these players face that few truly appreciate or understand.  Yeah, they knew what they were getting into when they chose Caltech, but still very proud of each and every Beaver student athlete on the roster.

More arms are on the way, and we will see all you SCIAC brothers next year.

Good Luck to both Occidental and Cal Lutheran in securing two bids to the Regionals.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 03, 2016, 09:42:44 PM
Welcome to the boards Appalcahian Mtns!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 03, 2016, 09:44:46 PM
Quote from: Appalachian Mtns on May 03, 2016, 09:26:04 PM
Congratulations to Whittier for taking care of business.  Beavers out hit the Poets, but the lack of timely hits allowing the Poets best pitcher in lefty Garcia to remain on the hill for 8 innings was too much to overcome.

The Beavers failure to turn the double play in the fourth, and missing the opportunity to keep the score at 2 to 1 thru the 6th, together with the bad 4 run 6 inning, was the Beaver's downfall.

Again Congrats to Whittier on the W.

Proud of the entire Caltech Beaver baseball program for the substantial improvement over the past few years.  Glad I will be around three more years to watch the continued improvement despite the terrible odds these players face that few truly appreciate or understand.  Yeah, they knew what they were getting into when they chose Caltech, but still very proud of each and every Beaver student athlete on the roster.

More arms are on the way, and we will see all you SCIAC brothers next year.

Good Luck to both Occidental and Cal Lutheran in securing two bids to the Regionals.
A question for SCIAC insiders...

What is the difference in Cal Tech's baseball program and its record versus MIT's record over the last several decades?

(This has got to be a multi-factorial issue.)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 03, 2016, 09:57:30 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 03, 2016, 09:44:46 PM
Quote from: Appalachian Mtns on May 03, 2016, 09:26:04 PM
Congratulations to Whittier for taking care of business.  Beavers out hit the Poets, but the lack of timely hits allowing the Poets best pitcher in lefty Garcia to remain on the hill for 8 innings was too much to overcome.

The Beavers failure to turn the double play in the fourth, and missing the opportunity to keep the score at 2 to 1 thru the 6th, together with the bad 4 run 6 inning, was the Beaver's downfall.

Again Congrats to Whittier on the W.

Proud of the entire Caltech Beaver baseball program for the substantial improvement over the past few years.  Glad I will be around three more years to watch the continued improvement despite the terrible odds these players face that few truly appreciate or understand.  Yeah, they knew what they were getting into when they chose Caltech, but still very proud of each and every Beaver student athlete on the roster.

More arms are on the way, and we will see all you SCIAC brothers next year.

Good Luck to both Occidental and Cal Lutheran in securing two bids to the Regionals.
A question for SCIAC insiders...

What is the difference in Cal Tech's baseball program and its record versus MIT's record over the last several decades?

(This has got to be a multi-factorial issue.)

This might sound crazy but I think MIT gets a ton of kids from the East Coast to stay there and they draw a lot from the West.  Caltech might (somehow) have trouble keeping kids from the West Coast to stay there. 

Caltech has always had trouble fielding a large (numbers wise) team and depth really hurts them in a 3 game series.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Appalachian Mtns on May 03, 2016, 10:31:45 PM
Not a SCIAC insider, but I suspect MIT has been allowed to recruit more players with a 5000 enrollment for a substantial longer period of time than Caltech with an enrollment of less than 1000

Having match-ups of 15 roster team versus 25 roster team is hard to overcome and nearly impossible playing a 35 roster team.

Fortunately the current coach is doing an excellent job recruiting and building Caltech's program as a SCIAC charter member and baseball playing program since 1909, and will probably end up with close to a 20 roster team next year, hopefully closing the disadvantage gap.

Not complaining, because it is Caltech's choice and mission to limit admissions.  Just grateful that they are now allowing the coach to recruit to build a better team. 

Personally, I think the Caltech coach needs to take more Krispy Kreme donuts on a regular basis to the admissions office. 😊

However I am just a clueless east coast fan of the Beavers and SCIAC, and maybe Caltech allowed other coaches in the past to recruit players for a 25 to a 35 roster team, but I seriously doubt it.  I know the numbers were a huge concern for us during our recruiting visit when a 13 dressed roster team played a 35 roster La Verne in Feb of 2015.  However we made the right decision.  We just have to redefine success, and alter our goals. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 04, 2016, 01:46:52 AM
I am interested to see how interested Cal Tech's coach is in wanting to continue the uphill battle.  How much longer can his psyche take it?  I don't care what the rationale is...losing sucks. Losing always sucks. He has proven what he can do with the limitations he has.  At what point does an AD take note of this and attempt to lure him away with (pick) Better Talent, more money, more liberal recruiting, a legitimate chance at not merely winning a league game, but rather winning a league. At what point does he accept...what happens when that AD comes by and says, "what will it take?"
.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Appalachian Mtns on May 04, 2016, 08:04:33 AM
Valid questions and concerns, especially for Caltech, but probably also for other SCIAC programs not named Cal Lutheran, La Verne, Pomona Pitzer in recent SCIAC championship history.  Glad Oxy broke through after nearly 30 years - great story.  Newbie Chapman and Redlands always a threat

Caltech is just not on the same level athletically as other SCIAC programs.  I get it.  But it is closer today than yesterday.  Amazed Caltech has only had 9 coaches since 1909, and grateful the current coach remains at the helm today, and wish nothing but the best for him and his family in his future endeavors.  Just glad his immediate future is with Caltech until he decides it isn't. 

Programs want their coaches to be coveted.  That is a good thing.  Whether it is improving statistically and narrowing the gap in results, or improving a program from a sub 500 team to finishing in the top half of the conference once every decade.

You are right, losing sucks and it is extremely difficult.  We have had people say that about other non-Caltech programs, why consider that program?, they are a 500 program without a legitimate shot to be contenders.  I get it.  However I do not consider the  fine young men from Whittier competing and attending an excellent school who will go on to fabulous careers at NASA, Wall Street, and other industries or government to be losers, just because they do not have a legitimate shot to make it to Appleton or regularly compete for the SCIAC championship. I know you did not call the players losers, but there are those that do.

I feel the same about Caltech players.  Just as you posted a while back, you recognized the character of players who continue to compete, obtain an excellent education while making life long friends competing with their teammates and coaches, and becoming acquaintances with other SCIAC coaches and players, whether playing for a winless team, a sub 500 team, or a Cal Lutheran.  So, in the long run, I do not consider them losers, and I no you do not either.  Maybe it is just an ill conceived rational, but that is how I feel.  So, for those who want to get rid of Caltech, there are those out there that feel the same about many programs who do not realistically have a shot to compete for a conference championship.  I disagree with thise people.

Aside from family, alma mater, geography, or other reasons, I suspect their isn't a SCIAC coach who wouldn't jump at the opportunity to coach at a Cal Lutheran, Trinity, Marietta, type of school.  Or "jump" up to D2, or take a D1 job.  We are talking about D3 baseball, and even if it is just D3 baseball, it is a good thing for other programs to want your coach.

And for whatever reason, if a coach wants to stick around and improve a program that doesn' have a shot of getting to Appleton, then I think that is great, and I am grateful that ours is where he is today.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 04, 2016, 12:56:48 PM
One of my other kids played on a D3 team in a league where they faced many of the same circumstances as Cal Tech does.  This led to a terrible multi-year losing streak in league play where they were undermanned every week.  They won non-league games, and they had an overtime loss and several close losses in league play where but for a single play or two they would have won several of them.  They had respect from their league peers.  They were recognized as a threat.

It was not until his Senior Day that they finally broke through.  Their smiles, the release of years of frustration, the elation was memorable.  He told me that the AD left the scoreboard on all night, and that at midnight he and his buddies grabbed a bench and took it out to midfield and cracked open beers and celebrated...and were joined out there by their AD.  A memory he will keep forever.  My son was 1st Team All-League and D3 1st Team All-Region.  He was a national leader in a couple of categories at his position.  He had a great year

In a couple of years following, he did say, "wish we could've won more."   See, losing truly does suck.  It does not make you a loser.

Next week following their win, they got blown out at their rival's place and the coach got fired.

And this leads me back to my main point...Coaches are in this as a profession, not like high school where it is a stipend position.  Winning is the measurement of success, not moral victories.  At a place like Cal Tech they have a realistic perspective on the prospects of winning.  But most Coaches are in the profession to win.  Maybe Coach Mark is a rare breed and he has "Coach for Life" status at Cal Tech and a compensation package that enables him an agreeable lifestyle.  He is making a difference, and that may be his definition of winning.  Having job security before your 30's in the Coaching profession is a golden benefit.  But look 30 years out, does he look back and say, yeah, I'm the all-time losingest coach in D3 history, but it was worth it.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 04, 2016, 04:56:32 PM
Sorry but let's be real. Caltech should be a club program. It has no place in the SCIAC. It is a marvelous school and tradition and if my son could have gone there I would have HIGHLY encouraged him to and AM should be so proud to have his son there. Three cheers! ...but due to demographics it will never win many (if any) games.

It basically wastes a weekend for the other SCIAC teams, and brings down everyone else' SoS which we all know the West has a tough time keeping up due to the distances. Go club and play UCLA, USC and some of the other solid club programs and actually have some fun and win a few games.

No disrespect JMO.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Appalachian Mtns on May 04, 2016, 06:38:57 PM
Great story, thanks for sharing.  Understood.

I suspect Coach Mark is recruiting and coaching to win, and some believe he is getting closer to turning the program around similar to the early stages prior to the basketball turning its program around.  I also suspect that he will not be at Caltech for 30 years, but hopefully he will be at Caltech longer to continue building the program. 

Rest assured, Coach Mark will not be the losingest D3 coach of 30 years.  I suspect at some point in time, he will win at Caltech, and move on after he believes he has built the program to its highest potential level of achievement, or gets an offer that is too good to refuse.  I think, he thinks he can accomplish more at Caltech, and I am confident he will.  The more he turns the program around, the better for him.  It is a win-win situation for coach and school.

I understand your point about coaching is a profession and that coaches are in it to win.  My point is that the same questions and concerns apply to a hypothetical coach in a league with a sub 500 record over a period of 10+ years without a championship, but also without the inherent obstacles the Caltech coach is starting to overcome.  The same losing sucks that applies to a winless program making headway statistically closer to possible wins, equally applies in other's opinions, to a consistent sub 500 program without the same inherent obstacles which can't a championship.

So your original point is valid, and yes I do recognize the possibility that Coach Mark will move on some day, hopefully with a resume entry of turning around Caltech's program.  My point is that the your same questions and concerns that apply to Caltech's coach can equally apply to the Whittier coach who has been there 18 years without a championship.  Caltech would love to have the wins and results that the Whittier coach has achieved, but at the same time, other programs would view such wins and results as unacceptable.  Fortunately, for various reasons both coaches have decided to stay where they are for now with patient administrations, and continue to coach and mold young men to be better ball players, students and individuals.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Appalachian Mtns on May 04, 2016, 06:47:56 PM
108 Stitches:

Thank you for sharing your opinion, and I respect it, but I disagree.

It is possible the same could have been said about Caltech's basketball program, but look at that turn around.

Give this new Athletic Director and Coach Mark some more time.  Let them eventually get to a roster between 20 and 25, and you will see some wins.

And no disrespect, but blaming 3 games (mostly) against a charter member of the conference as a reason it fails to get in the tournament is horse hockey.  If you think you deserve to run with the big Dogs in a mighty D3 division, put on your big boy pants and go schedule some national competition.  That is you problem, not a me problem.  No disrespect.  JMHO.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on May 04, 2016, 07:01:29 PM
Clearly  Cal Tech is at a tremendous disadvantage in the SCIAC.  Only the Claremont schools come close to being as hard to get in as Cal Tech.  Not only that but  Cal Tech students are all taking demanding stem majors -- making the challenge of finding strong student athletes even more daunting.  At many places stem majors tend to shy away from intercollegiate athletics.   And add on top of that  Cal Tech is the smallest school in the conference.   It's as if Harvey Mudd had to compete on its on in intercollegiate athletics.   Fortunately for Harvey Mudd it doesn't have to do that. 

Then look at it from the other end at a school like Cal Lu.  Cal Lu runs its program in what I suspect is a quite different way from Cal Tech.    It brings in 20-25 recruited Frosh a year, cuts a good number of them after fall tryouts, places most of the remainder of them on the JV squad for an extended tryout, and places only the very best of them on varsity.   They also heavily recruit JC transfers and also D1 and D2 drop-downs.  Nearly a quarter of this  year's varsity roster are transfer students with JC,  D2 and D1 experience.   Tough for a highly selective, small school with all stem majors to compete with that.  This approach seems to enable them to be in constant "reloading"  rather than "rebuilding"  mode from year to year.

Not saying all SCIAC schools are cut from the same cloth.  There is certainly a spectrum -- as in any conference.  The Claremont schools are closer to Cal Tech than to Cal Lu in many ways and they are way more competitive.  But they've got each other, and a broader range of students, taking a broader range of majors,  to help boost their chances of finding competitive student athletes. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 05, 2016, 11:18:37 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 04, 2016, 04:56:32 PM
Sorry but let's be real. Caltech should be a club program. It has no place in the SCIAC.

Do not concur.  Cal Tech's biggest problem is geographic.  Are they out of their league..basically, yes.  But there are leagues and D3 teams with which they match up favorably.  Unfortunately, the West Coast is sparsely populated by D3 institutions.  I wonder how they would stack up with some of the NAIA schools in the region...some of those are pretty bad.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 05, 2016, 08:52:49 PM
Their philosophy is approved by the other schools.  It's not just about sports. :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 06, 2016, 12:00:26 PM
SCIAC Tournament preview:

http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/bsb/2015-16/releases/20160504n0pln5

" the Tigers come into the SCIAC Tournament as the top seed and one of the best teams in the country."

Damn, I guess they should just forget about playing this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 06, 2016, 02:35:46 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on May 05, 2016, 11:18:37 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 04, 2016, 04:56:32 PM
Sorry but let's be real. Caltech should be a club program. It has no place in the SCIAC.

Do not concur.  Cal Tech's biggest problem is geographic.  Are they out of their league..basically, yes.  But there are leagues and D3 teams with which they match up favorably.  Unfortunately, the West Coast is sparsely populated by D3 institutions.  I wonder how they would stack up with some of the NAIA schools in the region...some of those are pretty bad.
I have wondered if we were to drop CIT into the middle of New England so they could play teams from the middle and lower standings in the NECC, NAC, CCC and GNAC. I imagine the coach could cherry-pick a winning record in that region. (Yes, top programs in those conferences are top programs in the region.)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 06, 2016, 05:23:03 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 06, 2016, 12:00:26 PM
SCIAC Tournament preview:

http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/bsb/2015-16/releases/20160504n0pln5

" the Tigers come into the SCIAC Tournament as the top seed and one of the best teams in the country."

Damn, I guess they should just forget about playing this weekend.

Southwestern showed in the SCAC tournament that it is not about your record coming in, just how you perform in your tournament. Tournament baseball has a whole nother" dimension and intensity level, and the teams that play under pressure well are the ones that come through. That is why a strong SoS really helps IMO.

I plan on checking out the video feeds just to see what is happening.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 06, 2016, 08:27:48 PM
Redlands leads Oxy 1-0 in the top of 3 and the game is under rain delay.

Chapman leads CLU 5-5 top 8.
The webcast is pretty good with three camera's and a decent announcer.  In the "take it for what it's worth" department he said that Slimak felt the best two teams in the SCIAC tournament were CLU and Chapman. Chapman scored 3 on errors and CLU just scored 2 on a throwing error. Up until this inning CLU had been leaving lots of guys on base.
Chapman 5-5-1
CLU         5-14-2

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 06, 2016, 08:53:14 PM
CLU wins 6-5 came from down 5-3 in the 7th.
CLU           6-16-2
Chapman   5-6-1
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 06, 2016, 08:57:29 PM
Redlands leads 1-0 after 2 and it was rained out.  Pick it up tomorrow morning at 8:30am.

Great win for Cal Lu.  They had 16 hits but it took a Chapman error and a huge 2-out double to win this one.  Guessing Chapman plays the loser of Oxy/Redlands at 11:30 or noon, and Cal Lu plays the winner of Oxy/Redlands at 3 or 3:30.  Elimination game on Sunday and 1 championship game, then probably another Championship game (if necessary) on Monday.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 07, 2016, 02:11:58 PM
Just checked the scores and Redlands beat Oxy 2-1 in what looked like a pretty good game from the box.

Redlands 2-10-2
Oxy          1-8-0

Chapman takes on Oxy next and CLU faces Redlands in the afternoon. All games a Oxy and they are webcasted
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 07, 2016, 02:58:33 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 07, 2016, 02:11:58 PM
Just checked the scores and Redlands beat Oxy 2-1 in what looked like a pretty good game from the box.

Redlands 2-10-2
Oxy          1-8-0

Chapman takes on Oxy next and CLU faces Redlands in the afternoon. All games a Oxy and they are webcasted

Redlands and CLU split 4 games this year, with Redlands taking 2 extra inning games.  Last week CLU eked out 6-5 win.  In fact, last three games CLU has won 6-5..  I'm Expecting a very competitive game.   Is Redlands going to be this years version of LaVerne?  #4 seed winning SCIAC tourney?   Looking forward to next 24-30 hours.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 07, 2016, 05:20:59 PM
2 and a BBQ for Oxy.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 07, 2016, 06:08:04 PM
Oxy beats Chapman 5-2 to move into tomorrow mornings game between the loser of the Cal Lu/Redlands game.  Chapman booted a dribbler to score 2 runs and give Oxy a 4-2 lead.  Cal Lu and Redlands just started.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 07, 2016, 08:57:41 PM
Cal Lu beats Redlands 6-3 to advance to the SCIAC Tournament Championship game.  I also believe this solidifies their spot in a regional, regardless of what happens tomorrow.  Oxy and Redlands in game 1 tomorrow to see who will play Cal Lu.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on May 07, 2016, 08:59:11 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 07, 2016, 08:57:41 PM
Cal Lu beats Redlands 6-3 to advance to the SCIAC Tournament Championship game.  I also believe this solidifies their spot in a regional, regardless of what happens tomorrow.  Oxy and Redlands in game 1 tomorrow to see who will play Cal Lu.

Quite a winning tradition they've got going there.  No wonder it's so hard for freshman players to break through there. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 08, 2016, 12:41:16 PM
I am interested to see how the pitching lines up today for the winner of the Oxy/Redlands game.  Oxy has thrown 2 complete games and will start their freshman who has been roughed up a little lately after dominating most of the season.  Redlands looks to be without their #1 as he hasn't thrown in a few weeks.  If Oxy wins game 1 and gets a long outing from their starter, I would assume they start their closer against Cal Lu in the afternoon game.  Redlands might have to start their closer if necessary as well.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 08, 2016, 05:41:50 PM
Oxy won 6 - 5.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on May 08, 2016, 08:29:36 PM
Cal Lu wins 4-1 over Oxy.

How deep will Cal Lu go in the Regional?

Will Oxy get a pool C bid?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 08, 2016, 09:54:31 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on May 08, 2016, 08:29:36 PM
Cal Lu wins 4-1 over Oxy.

How deep will Cal Lu go in the Regional?

Will Oxy get a pool C bid?

They will go as far as their hitting takes them.  They have been to plenty of regionals with high powered offenses only to be shut down in the regional.  The West is typically a very low-scoring regional.

Oxy is in a very tough spot.  They dropped from 2 to 5 in the regional rankings (which are all that matters) after losing 2 games last week.  They were behind Concordia in the latest ranking but Concordia went 1-2 in the ASC Tourney.  Oxy dropped 2 more games in the SCIAC Tourney and has a SOS of 176, which is awful and definitely something the committee will look at.  The new regional rankings will tell the story for Oxy and their chances.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 09, 2016, 01:38:09 AM
Congrats to CLU in filling out the West Regional. I think Oxy is in a tough position with CTX. Getting to the championship game helps their cause but it is a national selection process so their fate rests in the results from the rest of the country. There are some pretty good teams in the mid-west who will likely displace them depending on the results of other conference tournaments.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 09, 2016, 09:04:55 AM
I think OXY needs to cheer for all the conference favorites to win tourney titles this weekend if they are to have ANY shot of a Pool C. Still, I think OXY is done (All the faves never win their titles).
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 09, 2016, 11:50:51 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 09, 2016, 01:38:09 AM
Congrats to CLU in filling out the West Regional. I think Oxy is in a tough position with CTX. Getting to the championship game helps their cause but it is a national selection process so their fate rests in the results from the rest of the country. There are some pretty good teams in the mid-west who will likely displace them depending on the results of other conference tournaments.

108, agreed.
Like last year with CLU, I expect the SCIAC regular season winner (Oxy) who goes on and loses in Final, will be left at home.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 09, 2016, 12:01:40 PM
Without already being in the top half of the regional rankings, I don't see Oxy gaining any ground after this past weekend and like Big Poppa said, there are still going to be upsets throughout the nation that will really hamper a teams hopes.  Cal Lu being left home last year gives a little bit of a look into Oxy's chances.  I just don't see it happening for Oxy this year.  The very poor SOS just can't be overlooked by the committee.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2016, 05:04:40 PM
Because we are so isolated, the teams in the Region have to look at the chances to show how good they are.

Play an intra-region tourney in Arizona in February to get the ASC, NWC and (the occasional) SCAC teams.

Catch a couple of snowbirds on Spring Break on their west coast swings.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on May 09, 2016, 10:13:33 PM
It is all about costs. Great idea for intra conference tourney in Arizona...ASC, SCAC, NWC, SCIAC. Top teams should considered it or BAD SOS will keep you home if you dont get automatic bid
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Sluggerdad on May 09, 2016, 10:36:01 PM
Quote from: SoCalBaseballfan on May 09, 2016, 10:13:33 PM
It is all about costs. Great idea for intra conference tourney in Arizona...ASC, SCAC, NWC, SCIAC. Top teams should considered it or BAD SOS will keep you home if you dont get automatic bid

After last year, when they missed the regional despite winning 32 games,winning  the regular season champion ship, and reaching the tournament final, Cal Lu decided to take 2 trips this year to increase SOS just in case.  Big expense obviously but worth it. They probably would have gotten in even if they lost the tournament.

The rallying call this year was 4 trips!

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 09, 2016, 10:37:33 PM
Crash!!! So good to have you back!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 09, 2016, 11:10:30 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on May 09, 2016, 10:36:01 PM
Quote from: SoCalBaseballfan on May 09, 2016, 10:13:33 PM
It is all about costs. Great idea for intra conference tourney in Arizona...ASC, SCAC, NWC, SCIAC. Top teams should considered it or BAD SOS will keep you home if you dont get automatic bid

After last year, when they missed the regional despite winning 32 games,winning  the regular season champion ship, and reaching the tournament final, Cal Lu decided to take 2 trips this year to increase SOS just in case.  Big expense obviously but worth it. They probably would have gotten in even if they lost the tournament.

The rallying call this year was 4 trips!

Absolutely.  Traveling is almost required these days in order to get quality games.  Unlike the past when a lot of East Coast teams came to CA for their spring trip, many are going to Florida and AZ in order to get more games.Cal Lu and Chapman went to TX to get 3 games in against decent squads and Pomona went to a different tournament in TX to get 4 games (where they won all 4) but I think AZ is the way to go far the SCIAC.  Caltech, Cal Lu, Redlands and La Verne (twice) all went to AZ this year, and I think it helped all of the SOS.  I hate to beat a dead horse, but Oxy played all of their non-conference games at home and has traveled in the past, but if they want to up their SOS, they must travel and play good teams, not a mediocre NWC team.  I understand how much budgets and conference play can challenge this, but there are numerous ways to fundraise.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 10, 2016, 02:52:15 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 09, 2016, 11:10:30 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on May 09, 2016, 10:36:01 PM
Quote from: SoCalBaseballfan on May 09, 2016, 10:13:33 PM
It is all about costs. Great idea for intra conference tourney in Arizona...ASC, SCAC, NWC, SCIAC. Top teams should considered it or BAD SOS will keep you home if you dont get automatic bid

After last year, when they missed the regional despite winning 32 games,winning  the regular season champion ship, and reaching the tournament final, Cal Lu decided to take 2 trips this year to increase SOS just in case.  Big expense obviously but worth it. They probably would have gotten in even if they lost the tournament.

The rallying call this year was 4 trips!

Absolutely.  Traveling is almost required these days in order to get quality games.  Unlike the past when a lot of East Coast teams came to CA for their spring trip, many are going to Florida and AZ in order to get more games.Cal Lu and Chapman went to TX to get 3 games in against decent squads and Pomona went to a different tournament in TX to get 4 games (where they won all 4) but I think AZ is the way to go far the SCIAC.  Caltech, Cal Lu, Redlands and La Verne (twice) all went to AZ this year, and I think it helped all of the SOS.  I hate to beat a dead horse, but Oxy played all of their non-conference games at home and has traveled in the past, but if they want to up their SOS, they must travel and play good teams, not a mediocre NWC team.  I understand how much budgets and conference play can challenge this, but there are numerous ways to fundraise.

I will bet dollars to doughnuts that Oxy coaches did not see themselves getting in this lofty a position...note that last year they missed out of the SCIAC 4 by losing 2 of 3 to La Verne during the season.  I think they had to see themselves as having a better than good chance to get into the SCIAC 4 this season.  So maybe the weak schedule carried them to overachieve.  I saw them as 4th or 5th best in our conference.  That they advanced to the SCIAC 4 championship game round certainly exceeded my expectations.  I think the Oxy coaches might admit that too, when viewing from before the season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 10, 2016, 02:57:25 PM
If I recall, in the early 2000s TLU was left out of the regional after something like a 30-3 season. Maybe someone knows more than I do about that one.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 10, 2016, 04:39:45 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 10, 2016, 02:57:25 PM
If I recall, in the early 2000s TLU was left out of the regional after something like a 30-3 season. Maybe someone knows more than I do about that one.

I'm not sure about TLU but I know the Univ of Dallas had a year like that were they were left at home.  i think they were 34-3 in 2000 and were left home.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 10, 2016, 06:47:31 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 10, 2016, 04:39:45 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 10, 2016, 02:57:25 PM
If I recall, in the early 2000s TLU was left out of the regional after something like a 30-3 season. Maybe someone knows more than I do about that one.

I'm not sure about TLU but I know the Univ of Dallas had a year like that were they were left at home.  i think they were 34-3 in 2000 and were left home.
In the early 2000's there were very few Pool B bids and only 3 or 4 Pool C bids. 

When did TLU become fully eligible for D-3?  About that time?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 11, 2016, 08:06:45 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 10, 2016, 04:39:45 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 10, 2016, 02:57:25 PM
If I recall, in the early 2000s TLU was left out of the regional after something like a 30-3 season. Maybe someone knows more than I do about that one.

I'm not sure about TLU but I know the Univ of Dallas had a year like that were they were left at home.  i think they were 34-3 in 2000 and were left home.

I think it WAS Dallas.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on May 11, 2016, 06:05:45 PM
SCIAC All-Conference Teams announced today: http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2015-16/releases/all_conference (http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2015-16/releases/all_conference)

Athlete of the Year: Devon DeRaad- Oxy
Pitcher of the Year: Scott Ericksen- Oxy

First Team:
David Gerics          P   JR   Pomona-Pitzer
Will Martel                  P   FR   Occidental
Trey Saito                  P   JR   Cal Lutheran
Jakob Thomas          C   JR   University of La Verne
Jared Love              INF           SO   Chapman
Chad Clark              INF     SR   Cal Lutheran
Davey Casciola      INF           SR   Cal Lutheran
Konnor Zickefoose INF   FR   Chapman
Christian Gurrola     OF   SR   Redlands
Jake Raynaud        OF   JR   Whittier
Bryce Rogan        OF   SO   Pomona-Pitzer
Gavin Blodgett        UT   SO   Chapman
Tanner Nishioka        UT   JR   Pomona-Pitzer

Second Team
Nick Garcia   P   SR   Whittier
Landry Kiyabu   P   SR   Cal Lutheran
Matt Molnar   P   SR   Chapman
Evan Peterson   P   SR   Cal Lutheran
Nate Wehner   P   SO   Cal Lutheran
Eddie Villegas   C   JR   Cal Lutheran
Brady Fuller   INF   SR   Occidental
Matt Omori   INF   SO   Pomona-Pitzer
Christopher Scalisi   INF   JR   Redlands
Ben White          INF   SR   La Verne
Kevin Brice   OF   SR   Pomona-Pitzer
Conner Larkin   OF   SO   Chapman
Trey Smith           OF   SO   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps

Congrats to all those young men on great seasons.
Obviously can't argue with DeRaad as the "Athlete" of the year (I really hope that's a dig at pitchers not being athletes  ;D), incredible year and will probably be an All-American. Pitcher of the year was a little closer- my homer pick would be Gerics (better ERA, more Ks in twenty fewer innings, better WHIP, 7-0 v. 7-1) but Erickson obviously still had a terrific year and played on the team that won the regular season, so he's a fine selection.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 15, 2016, 01:03:42 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 11, 2016, 08:06:45 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 10, 2016, 04:39:45 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 10, 2016, 02:57:25 PM
If I recall, in the early 2000s TLU was left out of the regional after something like a 30-3 season. Maybe someone knows more than I do about that one.

I'm not sure about TLU but I know the Univ of Dallas had a year like that were they were left at home.  i think they were 34-3 in 2000 and were left home.

I think it WAS Dallas.
Dallas had one of those years.  Unfortunately, I cannot find where those archives cached on the web to confirm.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just_Some_Guy on May 15, 2016, 03:30:04 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 11, 2016, 08:06:45 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 10, 2016, 04:39:45 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 10, 2016, 02:57:25 PM
If I recall, in the early 2000s TLU was left out of the regional after something like a 30-3 season. Maybe someone knows more than I do about that one.

I'm not sure about TLU but I know the Univ of Dallas had a year like that were they were left at home.  i think they were 34-3 in 2000 and were left home.

I think it WAS Dallas.

Texas Lutheran finished 3rd in the ASC tourney in 2003. They were 36-4 going into the tournament and were left home. That was the year they started 26-0 and were #1 in the nation for a blip.

Not sure about University of Dallas. They were 33-8 in 2001. I believe McMurry won the ASC tournament that year and went 2 and BBQ in Orange County.

JSG
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 16, 2016, 09:40:38 PM
Mississippi College in 2003. McMurry in 2004.

http://www.ascsports.org/documents/2014/2/5/ASC_Chart_of_Champions_Dec._2013.pdf
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 04, 2017, 01:31:59 PM
2017 folks!  Here in SoCal January also denotes the beginning of the beginning of Baseball Season.  Looking forward to another year of fun!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 04, 2017, 03:04:32 PM
SRSU opens at UDallas with a 3 game sereis on 02/03 and 02/04 and then goes to the Cactus Classic.
ETBU is at Schreiner
Concordia opens at TLU.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 04, 2017, 06:33:54 PM
Being a southern destination, Whittier opens at home with Willamette 2/3 and 2/4 (DH); then Puget Sound 2/5.  Then a week off before getting into SCIAC play with a weekend series Home/Away (DH) with Oxy beginning 2/17

WC will travel to Oregon for 4 games at the end of March.

I am hoping it shapes up to be a wild year in the SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 04, 2017, 08:43:01 PM
Nice to see WC going to Oregon for some games.  Cal Lu is headed to PLU for a series as well.  It's very rare for the SCIAC teams to go anywhere other than TX or AZ.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 11, 2017, 07:01:34 PM
After going to Texas 2 years ago, WC stayed in SoCal last year.  Hitting the Oregon Trail should be a treat.  Hopefully, no rain.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Skips Soldier on January 16, 2017, 01:03:51 PM
Hey y'all! Skip's Soldier here. New to the boards and excited for the upcoming season.

I'm a big SCIAC Baseball fan, but even a bigger fan of Chapman baseball and what Coach Laverty (or Skip as some of the players call him over there) and the Panthers have in store for 2017. 

The team is looking pretty good even after losing Freshman All American Konnor Zickefoose to D1 UCI and a few of the veteran leaders from last years team like Connor Williams and Christian Gazdar.

The team is expecting both Tyler Cook and John Wiehe to be healthy for the season after missing last year with injuries. Both Wiehe and Cook were All SCIAC players in 2015 and should bring a lot of spark into the Panther offense this season.

The guy with the most upside and potential in the lineup in my opinion is Center Fielder, Conner Larkin, who quit football to focus on baseball and has been taking lessons with MLB stars, Hank Conger and Mark Trumbo's hitting coach. He's a dynamic player that is about to pair his raw athleticism with the fundamentals and technique of honing in his swing.

Skip thought the team was a little too tentative at the plate last year so he implemented a new approach of "hit hit hit" this fall and it is an exciting approach to the season. I fully expect the Panther offense to be electric in 2017 under Skip's wing. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 17, 2017, 02:39:44 PM
Welcome to the message boards. The SCIAC fans are great group of fans. RJT
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on January 18, 2017, 12:21:31 AM
Quote from: Skips Soldier on January 16, 2017, 01:03:51 PM
Hey y'all! Skip's Soldier here. New to the boards and excited for the upcoming season.

I'm a big SCIAC Baseball fan, but even a bigger fan of Chapman baseball and what Coach Laverty (or Skip as some of the players call him over there) and the Panthers have in store for 2017. 

The team is looking pretty good even after losing Freshman All American Konnor Zickefoose to D1 UCI and a few of the veteran leaders from last years team like Connor Williams and Christian Gazdar.

The team is expecting both Tyler Cook and John Wiehe to be healthy for the season after missing last year with injuries. Both Wiehe and Cook were All SCIAC players in 2015 and should bring a lot of spark into the Panther offense this season.

The guy with the most upside and potential in the lineup in my opinion is Center Fielder, Conner Larkin, who quit football to focus on baseball and has been taking lessons with MLB stars, Hank Conger and Mark Trumbo's hitting coach. He's a dynamic player that is about to pair his raw athleticism with the fundamentals and technique of honing in his swing.

Skip thought the team was a little too tentative at the plate last year so he implemented a new approach of "hit hit hit" this fall and it is an exciting approach to the season. I fully expect the Panther offense to be electric in 2017 under Skip's wing.

Any hopes for Chapman returning to West Regional playoffs in 2017? When is the last time they have been there. After posting under the CrashDavisD3 name for many years I reappear under a new name. Have not closely followed the program in recent years. Watched Chapman play in 4 West Regionals in 5 years and 4 DIII Championship Series in 5 years. I hope the program returns but have seen them fall short in recent years. I wish the best in 2017.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 19, 2017, 09:44:17 AM
I miss Chapman as a national power, but it appears that ship sailed when Coach T resigned. He came out OK in the end as he is currently teaching and coaching in Hawaii.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 19, 2017, 12:17:51 PM
Chapman has some hitters that's for sure...interesting development for Zickefoose - good for him.  I fully expect them to be in the hunt.

I think the SCIAC is going to be tough this year.  I expect Cal Tech to be more of a threat than ever.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on January 19, 2017, 06:51:35 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on January 19, 2017, 12:17:51 PM
I expect Cal Tech to be more of a threat than ever.
At what? Discovering water on Mars?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 19, 2017, 09:21:40 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on January 19, 2017, 06:51:35 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on January 19, 2017, 12:17:51 PM
I expect Cal Tech to be more of a threat than ever.
At what? Discovering water on Mars?

You got something against Mars having water? :o  Flint Michigan should be so lucky! >:(
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Appalachian Mtns on January 21, 2017, 09:05:06 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on January 19, 2017, 06:51:35 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on January 19, 2017, 12:17:51 PM
I expect Cal Tech to be more of a threat than ever.
At what? Discovering water on Mars?

Now, even I have to admit that is pretty funny.  I hope ours do their best, and I hope yours makes it to the show.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 21, 2017, 12:27:35 PM
This is pretty cool for Caltech...

https://twitter.com/caltechbaseball/status/811300842104037376

Not many teams in CA have turf but this will help in the rare occasion it rains.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Appalachian Mtns on January 21, 2017, 02:24:48 PM
I am hearing a roster of over 20 with more arms, which is a step in the right direction. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on January 22, 2017, 07:17:13 PM
Quote from: Appalachian Mtns on January 21, 2017, 02:24:48 PM
I am hearing a roster of over 20 with more arms, which is a step in the right direction.

That's good news.  The Beavers rarely had the depth to compete in the SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on January 22, 2017, 07:47:34 PM
AM, I would have given my eye teeth to have my son play for Cal Tech, a big congrats to your son and I hope they complete this year.

A great objective for them would be to try to win one game in a three game series during the season. If they can do this they will take a huge step towards a competitive program. Coaching staff should consider a reverse pitching strategy...

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Appalachian Mtns on January 22, 2017, 08:19:09 PM
They should be better this year, but they need to focus on winning a conference game.  Winning 8 conference games out of 24 probably not in the cards, but I agree with your assessment, and pitching strategy.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 22, 2017, 09:36:15 PM
Quote from: Appalachian Mtns on January 22, 2017, 08:19:09 PM
They should be better this year, but they need to focus on winning a conference game.  Winning 8 conference games out of 24 probably not in the cards, but I agree with your assessment, and pitching strategy.
A very sincere question to (as they say in modern parlance) to improve my knowledge base...

I have always wondered why MIT has a "stronger" (more W's) baseball program than Cal Tech.

What if MIT came west in the Spring for series of games on the West Coast?
Can you give me your impressions?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 22, 2017, 11:13:49 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 22, 2017, 09:36:15 PM
Quote from: Appalachian Mtns on January 22, 2017, 08:19:09 PM
They should be better this year, but they need to focus on winning a conference game.  Winning 8 conference games out of 24 probably not in the cards, but I agree with your assessment, and pitching strategy.
A very sincere question to (as they say in modern parlance) to improve my knowledge base...

I have always wondered why MIT has a "stronger" (more W's) baseball program than Cal Tech.

What if MIT came west in the Spring for series of games on the West Coast?
Can you give me your impressions?

As an outside observer - my impressions.  MIT seems to be stronger than Caltech in most sports (they are often downright good in men's basketball).  One likely explanation comes from a vaguely remembered SI article about Caltech.  IIRC, the #1 recruit for the Caltech basketball team couldn't get admitted ... and ended up at his 'safety school', MIT!  (Only at Caltech could MIT be considered a 'safety school'! ;D)  So I suspect that even more rigorous admissions standards and an even less athletics-friendly 'culture' would be the primary culprits.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 23, 2017, 01:40:43 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on January 22, 2017, 07:47:34 PM
Coaching staff should consider a reverse pitching strategy...

Pretty much what they've already been doing...which reflects back to my earlier observation...that with better depth and a coach that won't let them give up, they may well turn out to be a bigger threat - to get that league game losing streak gorilla off their back.  The one they lost in extras to CMS last year was one that got away.

Maybe the top 2 or 3 teams in the SCIAC can still sleep walk by them this season, but the rest better not.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 23, 2017, 01:45:52 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on January 21, 2017, 12:27:35 PM
This is pretty cool for Caltech...

https://twitter.com/caltechbaseball/status/811300842104037376

Not many teams in CA have turf but this will help in the rare occasion it rains.

Sure makes a Home Run ball hit out to Left Field look all the more impressive...

https://youtu.be/QKpcUeLWnjM (https://youtu.be/QKpcUeLWnjM)

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 23, 2017, 07:54:56 AM
Cal Tech is still my all-time favorite place to play. I have never heard better heckling from a student section anywhere I have ever coached.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Appalachian Mtns on January 23, 2017, 08:31:44 AM
RT - I suspect that MIT's 5000 enrollment versus Caltech's 1000 enrollment has a lot to do with it.  I would like to believe Caltech's admission standards are more challenging than MIT's, but I doubt that is the case.  I would say that those standards are comparable.  MIT's advantage in my opinion is that the larger enrollment allows more flexibility from admissions to assist the athletic department in accepting some athletes with excellent credentials but below preferred test score ranges.  For example, if both institutions wants an average 35 ACT score for all enrolled students for a particular class, then MIT with 5 to 1 enrollment advantage, can have 8 non-athletic students with a 36, allowing them to pick up a LHP with a 31 and a power corner hitter with a 31, to average 35 ACT score among those 10 students.  Versus Caltech, accepting one non-athletic student with a 36, and one athlete needing a 34 to average the 35 ACT.  Such is the advantage with a 5 to 1 enrollment advantage.  Just my 2 cents guess.

PH - it looks like Caltech's deepest left field will no longer be deepest in the SCIAC.  Based on photos, it looks like the temporary fence will now be used in left field too, this resulting in a shallower left field.  Yes, Caltech should have a few more HRs now that it's left field will match other SCIAC fields; however, I suspect that will not be any type of advantage because other SCIAC teams will still have deeper rotation, and I think it will result in more HRs for visitors giving SCIAC opponents another advantage they do not need.  Although I do understand the coach not wanting a left field in excess of 400 feet.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 23, 2017, 11:02:41 AM
Quote from: Appalachian Mtns on January 23, 2017, 08:31:44 AM
Just my 2 cents $0.02 guess.

Fixed it for you...since you were Math'ing up the Board and all... ;)

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 23, 2017, 04:17:30 PM
Quote from: Appalachian Mtns on January 23, 2017, 08:31:44 AM
RT - I suspect that MIT's 5000 enrollment versus Caltech's 1000 enrollment has a lot to do with it.  I would like to believe Caltech's admission standards are more challenging than MIT's, but I doubt that is the case.  I would say that those standards are comparable.  MIT's advantage in my opinion is that the larger enrollment allows more flexibility from admissions to assist the athletic department in accepting some athletes with excellent credentials but below preferred test score ranges.  For example, if both institutions wants an average 35 ACT score for all enrolled students for a particular class, then MIT with 5 to 1 enrollment advantage, can have 8 non-athletic students with a 36, allowing them to pick up a LHP with a 31 and a power corner hitter with a 31, to average 35 ACT score among those 10 students.  Versus Caltech, accepting one non-athletic student with a 36, and one athlete needing a 34 to average the 35 ACT.  Such is the advantage with a 5 to 1 enrollment advantage.  Just my 2 cents guess.

Thanks for the information.

In my post-graduate education, we had several D-1 intercollegiate athletes in various sports, baseball, cross country, track and football to name a few.  The administration said that they cut those guys (back then, before Title IX) some slack because the administration had always found them to be excellent students who were able to prioritize numerous responsibilities successfully.

There was some interesting research from Stanford from the 1930's (cited in Malcolm Gladwell's Tipping Point) that above an IQ of about 130, other factors had more impact on outcomes than simple IQ.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Appalachian Mtns on January 23, 2017, 04:49:26 PM
Okay, enough of the historic bottom of the SCIAC.

Posters - Let me know your predicted top half of the SCIAC in order of 1st thru 5th, and if you have one, share a brief reason for each particular prediction.  I am still learning about this conference.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 23, 2017, 04:52:24 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 22, 2017, 09:36:15 PM
Quote from: Appalachian Mtns on January 22, 2017, 08:19:09 PM
They should be better this year, but they need to focus on winning a conference game.  Winning 8 conference games out of 24 probably not in the cards, but I agree with your assessment, and pitching strategy.
A very sincere question to (as they say in modern parlance) to improve my knowledge base...

I have always wondered why MIT has a "stronger" (more W's) baseball program than Cal Tech.

What if MIT came west in the Spring for series of games on the West Coast?
Can you give me your impressions?

I know they have been out West at least twice.  In 2015 they went 3-2 on a trip where they beat Chapman, Claremont and Caltech and dropped games to Pomona and Cal Lu.  They also came out in 2002 and the only results I know of (at this time) were 2 losses to Cal Lu.  I know we overlooked them and figured they were more on the Caltech level, which at that time it was routine to score 20+ runs against them every time.  I think those types of trips are great for recruiting.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 24, 2017, 04:21:32 PM
FYI...I have made a pact with the Whittier kids that I would shave my eyebrows if they win the SCIAC Tourney.

Never underestimate the power of adequate motivation.   :o
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Skips Soldier on January 30, 2017, 09:16:31 PM
Quote from: Appalachian Mtns on January 23, 2017, 04:49:26 PM
Okay, enough of the historic bottom of the SCIAC.

Posters - Let me know your predicted top half of the SCIAC in order of 1st thru 5th, and if you have one, share a brief reason for each particular prediction.  I am still learning about this conference.

1. Chapman - Offense is too explosive and Coach Laverty is an offensive genius. Too much fire power up and down the lineup between Larkin, Cook, Love, and Utility man Gavin Blodgett or Pudge as some of the guys call him. Pitching staff will be much improved from last season, except Tyler Peck to make a big impact on the rotation.
2. Cal Lutheran - Saito is always reliable to top the rotation and they always have guys step up and fill in, team will compete this year.
3. Redlands - Felix is a great guy to top a SCIAC rotation, but they're gonna need a lot of help to slow down the Panther offense this season.
4. Pomona-Pitzer - Nishioka is a dominant player that can change the game with one swing of the bat. It will help them a little, but the team simply has too many holes to win it all.
5. Occidental - No way they'll be able to repeat the same magic from last year, once again too many holes on the team especially in the pitching staff.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 31, 2017, 10:22:24 AM
Quote from: Skips Soldier on January 30, 2017, 09:16:31 PM
Quote from: Appalachian Mtns on January 23, 2017, 04:49:26 PM
Okay, enough of the historic bottom of the SCIAC.

Posters - Let me know your predicted top half of the SCIAC in order of 1st thru 5th, and if you have one, share a brief reason for each particular prediction.  I am still learning about this conference.

1. Chapman - Offense is too explosive and Coach Laverty is an offensive genius. Too much fire power up and down the lineup between Larkin, Cook, Love, and Utility man Gavin Blodgett or Pudge as some of the guys call him. Pitching staff will be much improved from last season, except Tyler Peck to make a big impact on the rotation.
2. Cal Lutheran - Saito is always reliable to top the rotation and they always have guys step up and fill in, team will compete this year.
3. Redlands - Felix is a great guy to top a SCIAC rotation, but they're gonna need a lot of help to slow down the Panther offense this season.
4. Pomona-Pitzer - Nishioka is a dominant player that can change the game with one swing of the bat. It will help them a little, but the team simply has too many holes to win it all.
5. Occidental - No way they'll be able to repeat the same magic from last year, once again too many holes on the team especially in the pitching staff.

So...let me make sure I understand what you are saying, cuz it's coming in sorta fuzzy and it kinda seemed that he was hedging his bet here...Skip is picking Chapman to win the SCIAC, right?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Appalachian Mtns on January 31, 2017, 12:30:27 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on January 31, 2017, 10:22:24 AM
Quote from: Skips Soldier on January 30, 2017, 09:16:31 PM
Quote from: Appalachian Mtns on January 23, 2017, 04:49:26 PM
Okay, enough of the historic bottom of the SCIAC.

Posters - Let me know your predicted top half of the SCIAC in order of 1st thru 5th, and if you have one, share a brief reason for each particular prediction.  I am still learning about this conference.

1. Chapman - Offense is too explosive and Coach Laverty is an offensive genius. Too much fire power up and down the lineup between Larkin, Cook, Love, and Utility man Gavin Blodgett or Pudge as some of the guys call him. Pitching staff will be much improved from last season, except Tyler Peck to make a big impact on the rotation.
2. Cal Lutheran - Saito is always reliable to top the rotation and they always have guys step up and fill in, team will compete this year.
3. Redlands - Felix is a great guy to top a SCIAC rotation, but they're gonna need a lot of help to slow down the Panther offense this season.
4. Pomona-Pitzer - Nishioka is a dominant player that can change the game with one swing of the bat. It will help them a little, but the team simply has too many holes to win it all.
5. Occidental - No way they'll be able to repeat the same magic from last year, once again too many holes on the team especially in the pitching staff.

So...let me make sure I understand what you are saying, cuz it's coming in sorta fuzzy and it kinda seemed that he was hedging his bet here...Skip is picking Chapman to win the SCIAC, right?

Looks like it to me.  Chapman has a strong program.  Skip might be picking a little with his heart, plus it could also be financially motivated since the Flamingo has Chapman at 5 to 1 odds to win the SCIAC and get the at large bid.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 31, 2017, 06:31:35 PM
Looks like he does, too!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on February 01, 2017, 05:53:46 PM
I just looked at the CalTech roster.  They have twelve guys that can pitch in some way.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on February 02, 2017, 03:09:44 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 19, 2017, 09:44:17 AM
I miss Chapman as a national power, but it appears that ship sailed when Coach T resigned. He came out OK in the end as he is currently teaching and coaching in Hawaii.
Yep a name from the past still making a difference in players lives. A great coach during his time at Chapman. His name mentioned in 2016 and 2015 here.
http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/spring-ing-into-football-season-radford-rams/

http://www.therampage.net/uncategorized/2015/09/02/tereschuk-joins-english-department/

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on February 02, 2017, 12:27:52 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on February 01, 2017, 05:53:46 PM
I just looked at the CalTech roster.  They have twelve guys that can pitch in some way.

Nice to see that CalTech has got their first win of season earlier this week (in January!!) 
For the official record, they are first SCIAC team to win this year!   Congrats.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on February 04, 2017, 04:15:14 AM
http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2017/contrib/201702033ivhuv
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on February 04, 2017, 04:16:20 AM
Quote from: SoCalBaseballfan on February 04, 2017, 04:15:14 AM
http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2017/contrib/201702033ivhuv

SCIAC Coaches Poll

1) Cal Lutheran

2) Occidental

3) Chapman

4) Redlands

5) Pomona-Pitzer

6) La Verne

7) Whittier

8) Claremont-Mudd-Scripps

9) Caltech
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on February 04, 2017, 04:23:48 AM
SCIAC BASEBALL
http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/index
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on February 04, 2017, 04:25:40 AM
Quote from: SoCalBaseballfan on February 04, 2017, 04:23:48 AM
SCIAC BASEBALL
http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/index
http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2016-17/standings
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 06, 2017, 04:10:30 PM
First weekend in the books for some of the SCIAC teams.
Whittier, Redlands, Pomona, La Verne, Occidental, and Cal Tech in action.  Anybody see any of the games? 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 07, 2017, 01:55:04 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 06, 2017, 04:10:30 PM
First weekend in the books for some of the SCIAC teams.
Whittier, Redlands, Pomona, La Verne, Occidental, and Cal Tech in action.  Anybody see any of the games?
I'll start:

Whittier went 2-2 for the weekend which makes for their best start in at least 4 years.  Noted that WU and PS probably do not represent the cream of the NWC crop, but they are not Little Sisters of the Poor either...there was good talent on those teams and they were well-coached.

Enough to be happy with, but plenty of improvement to be made if they want to truly compete.  Could easily have been 3-1 (or better) on the weekend.  Whittier can not be that sloppy on defense and get away with it and it showed.  SCIAC play will be no different.  If the Poets can clean those things up; and build on the things that went well, then they will be a threat.  For a team that I have seen be a notoriously slow starting team, it was nice to see how the new faces performed and how the returnees have upped their game. Excited to see how they fare against Oxy in the league opener.

Note to Oregon Teams:  Please take your weather back with you.  8-)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 08, 2017, 11:43:19 AM
Observations from reading box scores and recaps:

1) Cal Tech going 1-3 against NAIA La Sierra.  Beaves beat them once last year, so we can't take this year's win as a surprise.  I would guess they are disappointed they didn't get the split as they played one other close.  Hard to not see them as improved...will it be enough?  Also will their new All-Turf Field play to their advantage...on the flip side, will it work against them when they have to play on the real stuff.

2) Oxy getting mercied by Centenary - not a good look but that was Game 1 for them and the Gents were on Game 4.  On the other hand the Gents were on Pitcher #4...We should get a better read on the Tigers this weekend

3) Redlands split with Centenary - Bulldogs ace pitched as advertised, #2 not quite as expected

4) Pomona - hit the crap out of the baseball, the Angels need to sign that hitting coach.  Eye-popping hitting stats on the score sheet, .401 Team BA for the weekend.

5) La Verne - too small a sample size but played nose up with what looks like a pretty good Centenary team
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 08, 2017, 08:43:07 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 08, 2017, 11:43:19 AM
Observations from reading box scores and recaps:

1) Cal Tech going 1-3 against NAIA La Sierra.  Beaves beat them once last year, so we can't take this year's win as a surprise.  I would guess they are disappointed they didn't get the split as they played one other close.  Hard to not see them as improved...will it be enough?  Also will their new All-Turf Field play to their advantage...on the flip side, will it work against them when they have to play on the real stuff.

2) Oxy getting mercied by Centenary - not a good look but that was Game 1 for them and the Gents were on Game 4.  On the other hand the Gents were on Pitcher #4...We should get a better read on the Tigers this weekend

3) Redlands split with Centenary - Bulldogs ace pitched as advertised, #2 not quite as expected

4) Pomona - hit the crap out of the baseball, the Angels need to sign that hitting coach.  Eye-popping hitting stats on the score sheet, .401 Team BA for the weekend.

5) La Verne - too small a sample size but played nose up with what looks like a pretty good Centenary team

1. I think it's great the Caltech got turf.  I could see other SCIAC schools using it to make up games if necessary.

2.Oxy getting smoked was definitely not a good look.  Playing your first game of the year is always tough but for a team to get thumped like that is a little concerning.  I would figure all of your pitchers would be available, especially since they don't play again until Saturday.  It will be interesting to see how they play this weekend in AZ.  Sul Ross is pretty bad but George Fox and Linfield will be a challenge.  Either way, it's nice to see Oxy step up their OOC schedule as that is the #1 reason they got left home last year.

3. Minjarez was lights out.  Will they limit his workload after coming off an injury last year?

4. Pomona started out hot last year too.  They have always been able to hit but it all comes down to their pitching and most importantly, their defense.

5. LaVerne is always a mystery.  Don't know what to expect from them.

As far as the rest of the SCIAC, I have no idea how everyone will stack up.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Westside on February 09, 2017, 02:08:50 AM
Anyone else think it is kinda funny that the SCIAC and NWC schools are pretty much traveling to a neutral site (AZ) to play against each other? Probably could've saved a bunch of money by just going to California.

Also, I think that Oxy struggles a bit this year, and Pomona will bounce back and have a good season.

Also, I love watching Minjarez and Gerics throw. They are two of the best in the country.

I am excited to see Linfield's opener against Cal Lu. Always nice getting to face someone like Saito (I assume) to start the season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 10, 2017, 06:15:08 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 09, 2017, 02:08:50 AM
Anyone else think it is kinda funny that the SCIAC and NWC schools are pretty much traveling to a neutral site (AZ) to play against each other? Probably could've saved a bunch of money by just going to California.

Also, I think that Oxy struggles a bit this year, and Pomona will bounce back and have a good season.

Also, I love watching Minjarez and Gerics throw. They are two of the best in the country.

I am excited to see Linfield's opener against Cal Lu. Always nice getting to face someone like Saito (I assume) to start the season.
I have wondered why is there not a comparable site in southern California. Texas schools have gone to AZ most years as well.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 10, 2017, 06:35:46 PM
Schools from the midwest/mideast go to AZ as well. Oberlin goes out to Az.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 10, 2017, 06:46:19 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 10, 2017, 06:15:08 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 09, 2017, 02:08:50 AM
Anyone else think it is kinda funny that the SCIAC and NWC schools are pretty much traveling to a neutral site (AZ) to play against each other? Probably could've saved a bunch of money by just going to California.

Also, I think that Oxy struggles a bit this year, and Pomona will bounce back and have a good season.

Also, I love watching Minjarez and Gerics throw. They are two of the best in the country.

I am excited to see Linfield's opener against Cal Lu. Always nice getting to face someone like Saito (I assume) to start the season.
I have wondered why is there not a comparable site in southern California. Texas schools have gone to AZ most years as well.

The ablity to play night games on multiple fields, I suppose, is the big draw to AZ...funny though given the lack of D3 institutions in AZ.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 10, 2017, 08:23:47 PM
It would be nice to see the SCIAC host 4 games all over but I don't think the NWC would like to play all of the SCIAC schools on the road every year.  The weather this time of the year is too unpredictable in the NW and Chapman could host night games.  It is nice to see some SCIAC schools going North this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 10, 2017, 08:44:07 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 10, 2017, 06:46:19 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 10, 2017, 06:15:08 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 09, 2017, 02:08:50 AM
Anyone else think it is kinda funny that the SCIAC and NWC schools are pretty much traveling to a neutral site (AZ) to play against each other? Probably could've saved a bunch of money by just going to California.

Also, I think that Oxy struggles a bit this year, and Pomona will bounce back and have a good season.

Also, I love watching Minjarez and Gerics throw. They are two of the best in the country.

I am excited to see Linfield's opener against Cal Lu. Always nice getting to face someone like Saito (I assume) to start the season.
I have wondered why is there not a comparable site in southern California. Texas schools have gone to AZ most years as well.

The ablity to play night games on multiple fields, I suppose, is the big draw to AZ...funny though given the lack of D3 institutions in AZ.

SE Michigan has numerous sports complexes with multiple lighted diamonds - though you might have to shovel the snow off the fields yourselves this time of year! ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Wildcat17 on February 11, 2017, 03:31:21 AM
Nice to see Linfield get a first win of the season over Cal Lu, 2-1.  Pretty high quality game overall considering it was the first game of the year for both teams.   Linfield's pitching was very good, both from the starter, Cason Cunningham, and the reliever, Matt Strang.  Linfield finished with about 8 hits, including the critical two RBI triple to center by Scott Hilpert in the 6th.  Cal Lu definitely played well, and almost mounted a comeback in the ninth before Strang ended it with a fly out to center with runners at second and third. 

   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on February 11, 2017, 06:35:03 AM
Quote from: SoCalBaseballfan on February 04, 2017, 04:16:20 AM
Quote from: SoCalBaseballfan on February 04, 2017, 04:15:14 AM
http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2017/contrib/201702033ivhuv

SCIAC Coaches Poll

1) Cal Lutheran
2) Occidental
3) Chapman
4) Redlands
5) Pomona-Pitzer
6) La Verne
7) Whittier
8) Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
9) Caltech
Chapman starts off 1-2 and Pomana starts off strong at 4-1. Early on but I dont see Chapman finishing higher that 4th in 2017. 2017 will not be the year Chapman returns to the NCAA regionals. I hope I am wrong. I watched Chapman get to the NCAA Championship Series 4 times in 5 years and 5 Regionals when I was CrashDavisD3. Arizona is a great venue for early SCIAC team play in my opinion.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on February 11, 2017, 06:39:31 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 10, 2017, 06:15:08 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 09, 2017, 02:08:50 AM
Anyone else think it is kinda funny that the SCIAC and NWC schools are pretty much traveling to a neutral site (AZ) to play against each other? Probably could've saved a bunch of money by just going to California.

Also, I think that Oxy struggles a bit this year, and Pomona will bounce back and have a good season.

Also, I love watching Minjarez and Gerics throw. They are two of the best in the country.

I am excited to see Linfield's opener against Cal Lu. Always nice getting to face someone like Saito (I assume) to start the season.
I have wondered why is there not a comparable site in southern California. Texas schools have gone to AZ most years as well.
Not enough schools with lights in SCIAC. Also CA JC fields, high school fields, DII and DIII fields DO NOT have lights for night games. Only D1 schools have lights which they NEVER let other schools play on their fields unless it is summer. Arizona is a great choices for this time of year with all the lighted fields they have due the brutal heat during the year
AZ has lots of fields with most colleges, high schools, minor league, Major league sites all have lights
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on February 12, 2017, 01:27:23 AM
Quote from: SoCalBaseballfan on February 12, 2017, 01:25:44 AM
http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2016-17/standings

Not a great week for SCIAC teams 17-21 for the season
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 12, 2017, 03:38:11 AM
Wild days in Arizona...the day after CLU drops 2-1 to Linfield, Chapman re-enacts the gunfight at the OK Corral and beats the Wildcats 20-19.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on February 12, 2017, 02:34:37 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 12, 2017, 03:38:11 AM
Wild days in Arizona...the day after CLU drops 2-1 to Linfield, Chapman re-enacts the gunfight at the OK Corral and beats the Wildcats 20-19.
Early season lack of pitching depth???  Many games in a few days?? Hitters ahead of pitchers?? Sounds like a beer league slow pitch softball score
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on February 12, 2017, 02:35:51 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 10, 2017, 06:15:08 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 09, 2017, 02:08:50 AM
Anyone else think it is kinda funny that the SCIAC and NWC schools are pretty much traveling to a neutral site (AZ) to play against each other? Probably could've saved a bunch of money by just going to California.

Also, I think that Oxy struggles a bit this year, and Pomona will bounce back and have a good season.

Also, I love watching Minjarez and Gerics throw. They are two of the best in the country.

I am excited to see Linfield's opener against Cal Lu. Always nice getting to face someone like Saito (I assume) to start the season.
I have wondered why is there not a comparable site in southern California. Texas schools have gone to AZ most years as well.
Less rain in AZ. More fields with lights in AZ.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 13, 2017, 03:38:21 PM
Well.  What did we learn?    ???
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on February 13, 2017, 06:45:16 PM
Quote from: Wildcat17 on February 11, 2017, 03:31:21 AM
Nice to see Linfield get a first win of the season over Cal Lu, 2-1.  Pretty high quality game overall considering it was the first game of the year for both teams.   Linfield's pitching was very good, both from the starter, Cason Cunningham, and the reliever, Matt Strang.  Linfield finished with about 8 hits, including the critical two RBI triple to center by Scott Hilpert in the 6th.  Cal Lu definitely played well, and almost mounted a comeback in the ninth before Strang ended it with a fly out to center with runners at second and third. 



Interesting the CLU started Marshall Pautsch instead of Trey Saito.  Wonder if that's a sign of things to come or Slim didn't want Linfield to see Saito.   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 13, 2017, 06:48:13 PM
My first impression of the SCIAC after everyone has played a few games...

1. Pomona: they have hit the ball very well so far but got shut down a little by PLU over the weekend.  Gerrics is one of the top arms in the conference but they will need more than just him to be successful.

2. Caltech will continue to improve and I really hope this is the year they get a SCIAC win.

3. Redlands: Minjarez is probably the best Friday starter in the SCIAC and they have a pretty good staff all around.  They are super aggressive at the plate and I think they will be in the top 4 at the end of the year.

4. Whittier: They were off this past weekend but had a decent opening series where they showed a lot of improvement from last year.  I expect the Poets to be a much better them this year.

5. Oxy: Not a good start for a team that believes they got shafted last year.  They have been pretty awful at the plate with a .183 average through 4 games and teams are hitting .338 off of them.  Good win vs Linfield but they need to figure it out pretty quick.

6. Cal Lu: A 1 run loss to Linfield kept them from going 3-0 in AZ but the pitching staff only gave up 5 runs in 3 games.

7. Claremont: Not a good start losing 3/4 to Whitman (who apparently go by the Blues these days). 

8. Chapman: Great offensive weekend but a pretty bad weekend on the mound.  Maybe they will just try and beat everyone 13-12???

9. La Verne: Not a good start at all and they have used 15 pitchers for a terrible 6.65 ERA.  Could be another disappointing year, just 2 removed from a Regional.

SCIAC play starts this weekend and some of these teams need to get it together in a hurry.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 13, 2017, 07:48:05 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 13, 2017, 03:38:21 PM
Well.  What did we learn?    ???

The SCIAC/NWC mixer has been a lot of fun.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 15, 2017, 12:59:01 PM
Quote from: Appalachian Mtns on February 15, 2017, 11:47:46 AM
SCIAC Los Angeles area fans:

My wife and I are fortunate to be flying in late tomorrow to attend the Beavers opening conference series with Claremont-Mudd-Scripps.  The Friday game is at Caltech, and I will need to find something to do in the Pasadena area before that afternoon game.

However, I am not familiar with the CMS area for the Saturday double header, and I would like to be in the CMS area early Saturday morning if there is something any of you think we should check out.  Last year we attended the Chapman double header and stumbled upon the Richard Nixon Presidential Library that we checked out before the double header.  We would like to do something similar while attending the CMS area.  Naturally dad would prefer to be at CMS by 10:00 a.m. to watch BP, etc, but that doesn't leave much time.  However, if mom finds something interesting, she will tell dad that we are going to watch son at 11:00 a.m.'s first pitch.

Any suggestions for places to check out in the CMS area between 8:00 a.m. to 10/11:00 a.m. this Saturday?

Thank you.

Go Beavers!

Check your team's schedule...with rain forecasted, there are rumblings of game day changes.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 15, 2017, 01:03:55 PM
SCIAC represented on D3baseball.com's first 2017 Team of the Week.  Congratulations to both young men honored.  Wild and Wacky start to the season...looking forward to the weekend!

http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/team-of-the-week/2017/week01
(http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/team-of-the-week/2017/week01)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 16, 2017, 02:49:46 PM
SCIAC Week 1 Predictions

Whittier takes 2/3 from Oxy.  I don't trust Oxy one bit right now and their story from AZ talked about their "depleted bullpen" after 2 games on Saturday.  Doesn't sound like a whole lot of depth.  Side note: Does Oxy really have a "DeRaad Tracker" on their story?

Cal Lu takes 3/3 from La Verne.  This could easily be a 2/1 series but I think La Verne's pitching will hurt them.

CMS takes 3/3 from Caltech but this series will be much closer than some expect.  CMS sure didn't show much last weekend against Whitman.

Redlands should sweep Chapman but I think they get 2/3.  Chapman's pitching has been flat awful but they can hit.  Lets see how they do against Minjarez.

Non-Conference
Pomona/Whitworth should be a pretty good series.  I expect Pomona to get 2/3.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on February 16, 2017, 08:50:41 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 16, 2017, 02:49:46 PM
SCIAC Week 1 Predictions

Whittier takes 2/3 from Oxy.  I don't trust Oxy one bit right now and their story from AZ talked about their "depleted bullpen" after 2 games on Saturday.  Doesn't sound like a whole lot of depth.  Side note: Does Oxy really have a "DeRaad Tracker" on their story?

Cal Lu takes 3/3 from La Verne.  This could easily be a 2/1 series but I think La Verne's pitching will hurt them.

CMS takes 3/3 from Caltech but this series will be much closer than some expect.  CMS sure didn't show much last weekend against Whitman.

Redlands should sweep Chapman but I think they get 2/3.  Chapman's pitching has been flat awful but they can hit.  Lets see how they do against Minjarez.

Non-Conference
Pomona/Whitworth should be a pretty good series.  I expect Pomona to get 2/3.

Any games in SoCal Friday/Saturday/Sunday
PREDICTION NO GAMES RAIN
http://www.google.org/publicalerts/alert?aid=6c137c18fcc31531&hl=en&gl=US&source=web
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on February 16, 2017, 08:53:25 PM
Quote from: SoCalBaseballfan on February 16, 2017, 08:50:41 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 16, 2017, 02:49:46 PM
SCIAC Week 1 Predictions

Whittier takes 2/3 from Oxy.  I don't trust Oxy one bit right now and their story from AZ talked about their "depleted bullpen" after 2 games on Saturday.  Doesn't sound like a whole lot of depth.  Side note: Does Oxy really have a "DeRaad Tracker" on their story?

Cal Lu takes 3/3 from La Verne.  This could easily be a 2/1 series but I think La Verne's pitching will hurt them.

CMS takes 3/3 from Caltech but this series will be much closer than some expect.  CMS sure didn't show much last weekend against Whitman.

Redlands should sweep Chapman but I think they get 2/3.  Chapman's pitching has been flat awful but they can hit.  Lets see how they do against Minjarez.

Non-Conference
Pomona/Whitworth should be a pretty good series.  I expect Pomona to get 2/3.

Any games in SoCal Friday/Saturday/Sunday
PREDICTION NO GAMES RAIN
http://www.google.org/publicalerts/alert?aid=6c137c18fcc31531&hl=en&gl=US&source=web
http://abc7.com/weather/doppler/
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 17, 2017, 11:25:55 AM
Hide the sharp objects (and pens) from the Poets and the Poet faithful - even the pets are pissed off about it.  Make no mistake, Whittier gave one away yesterday.

Looking for a bounce back on Sunday.





Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: purplefan on February 18, 2017, 09:46:55 AM
Well said PH!  I was at the game Poets game Thursday,  I would have had more fun pulling my finger nails out one by one! :o  We have 17 errors thru 5 games and that is home cooking more like 21 or 22!  Changes need to be made or this ship will never sail, I don't care how well you hit the ball.  But what do I Know I'm just a pitchers dad! ::)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 18, 2017, 09:13:21 PM
Quote from: purplefan on February 18, 2017, 09:46:55 AM
Well said PH!  I was at the game Poets game Thursday,  I would have had more fun pulling my finger nails out one by one! :o  We have 17 errors thru 5 games and that is home cooking more like 21 or 22!  Changes need to be made or this ship will never sail, I don't care how well you hit the ball.  But what do I Know I'm just a pitchers dad! ::)

Poor defense has cost us 2 potential W's...but the problems there are correctable.  Just better do it quick.

We'll see how we bounce back Sunday...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 19, 2017, 04:30:07 PM
6 more errors, lucky we only got beat 6-4 in the first game today.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 19, 2017, 11:08:18 PM
At least they finally beat us in game 3...

Not the happy weekend we had planned. :(
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 20, 2017, 08:56:48 AM
SCIAC Recap:

Tough weekend for some, good for others.

Pomona has now lost 5 in a row after a hot start, which is exactly what happened last year.  Nishioka is off to a great start with 8 bombs in the first 10 games.

La Verne took 2/3 from Cal Lu with a couple of 1-run games on Sunday. 

CMS swept Caltech in a very competitive series.  I watched on Saturday and CMS should be embarrassed at the way their dugout acts.  Caltech battled and it is very apparent to see the improvements they continue to make.

Oxy swept Whittier but I'll let Heys handle this one.  Either way, Oxy and Cal Lu play a huge series this weekend.

Chapman did just enough to take a couple of 1-run games at Redlands.  Solid weekend for Chapman with game 3 coming Tuesday.

I think the SCIAC is wide open this year but it's only a few weeks into the season.  No team has been overly impressive but plenty of season left.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: NWBaseballFan10 on February 20, 2017, 01:23:36 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 20, 2017, 08:56:48 AM

Pomona has now lost 5 in a row after a hot start, which is exactly what happened last year.  Nishioka is off to a great start with 8 bombs in the first 10 games.


:o I see all the rain that hit the SoCal area in recent weeks hasn't been enough to cool off Nishioka's hot bat. He's putting up some insane numbers thus far (haven't seen power numbers like that since the bat change back in 2011).
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 20, 2017, 03:18:50 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 20, 2017, 08:56:48 AM
Oxy swept Whittier but I'll let Heys handle this one.  Either way, Oxy and Cal Lu play a huge series this weekend.

So it wasn't just a bad dream...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 20, 2017, 03:28:28 PM
Poets wasted 2 "good enough" pitching efforts with ridiculous fielding in games 1 and 2.  Poets should have at least split those two if they played reasonably well

Game 3 was all Oxy, gotta give them credit.  Oxy may not be what they were last year, but you gotta play college level baseball against them.

The Poets so far have played Jekyll and Hyde.  The team that beat Puget Sound and Willamette sweeps or goes 2-1 last weekend; the team that got beat by Willamette gets swept.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on February 21, 2017, 03:43:33 PM
Can an outsider ask a dumb question?  Why not have a new thread for every season instead of continuing one that's 12yo?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 21, 2017, 06:11:25 PM
Not this thread but the NCAC thread. When my son was considering some of the schools in that conference, I read it from beginning to end. It was interesting to read from one season to the next. Takes less adminstration as well. I like this format.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 21, 2017, 08:37:28 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on February 21, 2017, 03:43:33 PM
Can an outsider ask a dumb question?  Why not have a new thread for every season instead of continuing one that's 12yo?

Paaattt!  Someone's rocking the boat!   ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on February 22, 2017, 02:13:19 AM
OK fine, and sorry.

I bet you all type www before every internet address too.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Skips Soldier on February 22, 2017, 02:49:51 AM
Watched Chapman finish off their sweep of Redlands this afternoon and the team looked impressive. All throughout the lineup and especially with their Fab Five, 1-5 in the order. Wiehe, Blodgett (who hit two homers today), Cook, Love and Stream can really hit hit hit like Skip's been preaching.

Matt Mogollon looked phenomenal today on the mound and is looking like a very nice rotation option for the Panthers this season. Then there is Mason Collins who might just be the best relief pitcher in the SCIAC and that's saying something. Put the kid in any situation and he just gets outs. Can't put it better than that.

Redlands did not look good at all this weekend. I know they lost a lot of bats in the lineup and it showed. Felix is the only pitcher that looked like he could slow down the Panther offense and even that didn't work as they scored 5 against him. I wonder if they'll be able to turn it around soon.

I expect the team to run through Pomona this weekend and for the offense to stay red hot.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 22, 2017, 01:40:22 PM
Quote from: Skips Soldier on February 22, 2017, 02:49:51 AM
Watched Chapman finish off their sweep of Redlands this afternoon and the team looked impressive. All throughout the lineup and especially with their Fab Five, 1-5 in the order. Wiehe, Blodgett (who hit two homers today), Cook, Love and Stream can really hit hit hit like Skip's been preaching.

Matt Mogollon looked phenomenal today on the mound and is looking like a very nice rotation option for the Panthers this season. Then there is Mason Collins who might just be the best relief pitcher in the SCIAC and that's saying something. Put the kid in any situation and he just gets outs. Can't put it better than that.

Redlands did not look good at all this weekend. I know they lost a lot of bats in the lineup and it showed. Felix is the only pitcher that looked like he could slow down the Panther offense and even that didn't work as they scored 5 against him. I wonder if they'll be able to turn it around soon.

I expect the team to run through Pomona this weekend and for the offense to stay red hot.

That's it. I'm convinced.  Chapman's going undefeated the rest of the season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on February 23, 2017, 01:49:52 PM
Quote from: Skips Soldier on February 22, 2017, 02:49:51 AM
Watched Chapman finish off their sweep of Redlands this afternoon and the team looked impressive. All throughout the lineup and especially with their Fab Five, 1-5 in the order. Wiehe, Blodgett (who hit two homers today), Cook, Love and Stream can really hit hit hit like Skip's been preaching.

Matt Mogollon looked phenomenal today on the mound and is looking like a very nice rotation option for the Panthers this season. Then there is Mason Collins who might just be the best relief pitcher in the SCIAC and that's saying something. Put the kid in any situation and he just gets outs. Can't put it better than that.

Redlands did not look good at all this weekend. I know they lost a lot of bats in the lineup and it showed. Felix is the only pitcher that looked like he could slow down the Panther offense and even that didn't work as they scored 5 against him. I wonder if they'll be able to turn it around soon.

I expect the team to run through Pomona this weekend and for the offense to stay red hot.

Imagine if Zickafosse did not transfer to UC Irvine.  We had Larkin on our summer team and he did well so it is not like there is a break at the end of the order either.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on February 24, 2017, 12:09:49 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 22, 2017, 01:40:22 PM
Quote from: Skips Soldier on February 22, 2017, 02:49:51 AM
Watched Chapman finish off their sweep of Redlands this afternoon and the team looked impressive. All throughout the lineup and especially with their Fab Five, 1-5 in the order. Wiehe, Blodgett (who hit two homers today), Cook, Love and Stream can really hit hit hit like Skip's been preaching.

Matt Mogollon looked phenomenal today on the mound and is looking like a very nice rotation option for the Panthers this season. Then there is Mason Collins who might just be the best relief pitcher in the SCIAC and that's saying something. Put the kid in any situation and he just gets outs. Can't put it better than that.

Redlands did not look good at all this weekend. I know they lost a lot of bats in the lineup and it showed. Felix is the only pitcher that looked like he could slow down the Panther offense and even that didn't work as they scored 5 against him. I wonder if they'll be able to turn it around soon.

I expect the team to run through Pomona this weekend and for the offense to stay red hot.

That's it. I'm convinced.  Chapman's going undefeated the rest of the season.
Too early to hand over and give Chapman the SCIAC bid to the regionals.  ;D ;D ;D Hot bats with scoring 7+ runs per game but pitching is giving up 7 runs per game with a .423 OBP for their opponents per game average. http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2016-17/teams/chapman?view=profile&r=0&pos=
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 24, 2017, 01:50:46 PM
Another edition of my usually terrible SCIAC picks.

Claremont plays Bates and Puget Sound this weekend and from what I saw last weak, CMS will go 0-4 or 1-3.  It's going to be a long year for them.

La Verne sweeps Caltech but there will be some competitive games. 

Cal Lu "should" sweep Oxy and I say that simply because I think Cal Lu has more talent.  Oxy is only hitting .219 as a team but they are scrappy.  I could also see a 2-1 series either way.

Redlands and Whittier is an interesting series due to last weeks results.  The Poets gave a game (and probably 2) away to Oxy and Redlands got swept by Chapman.  I see Redlands taking Friday but if Whittier plays a little D, they could snap a win or 2 on Saturday.

Chapman and Pomona are going to play a very high scoring series.  Nishioka is off to a great start but the P-P pitching has been less than stellar.  Chapman has been hitting the ball well but their pitching is not that sharp.  No idea who wins this series but whoever it is will have to outslug the other.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on February 26, 2017, 02:03:54 PM
Chapman has started our strong with a 9-2 record overall and 6-0 in conference.

Could this be the year that Chapman returns to the NCAA Regionals. It's been a long time. Too early to tell. Big bats but will pitching be good enough ???
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 27, 2017, 01:26:32 PM
The good thing is, I now have lots of leg room on the Poet bandwagon... ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 01, 2017, 06:42:23 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 24, 2017, 01:50:46 PM
Another edition of my usually terrible SCIAC picks.

Claremont plays Bates and Puget Sound this weekend and from what I saw last weak, CMS will go 0-4 or 1-3.  It's going to be a long year for them.

La Verne sweeps Caltech but there will be some competitive games. 

Cal Lu "should" sweep Oxy and I say that simply because I think Cal Lu has more talent.  Oxy is only hitting .219 as a team but they are scrappy.  I could also see a 2-1 series either way.

Redlands and Whittier is an interesting series due to last weeks results.  The Poets gave a game (and probably 2) away to Oxy and Redlands got swept by Chapman.  I see Redlands taking Friday but if Whittier plays a little D, they could snap a win or 2 on Saturday.

Chapman and Pomona are going to play a very high scoring series.  Nishioka is off to a great start but the P-P pitching has been less than stellar.  Chapman has been hitting the ball well but their pitching is not that sharp.  No idea who wins this series but whoever it is will have to outslug the other.

Claremont takes 1 from Bates and splits with Puget Sound.  Not sold one bit on this team...

La Verne sweeps Caltech with 2 blowouts but game 3 was a 2-1 game headed into the 7th.  La Verne should to go 8-1 after this weekends series with CMS.

Cal Lu take 2/3 from Oxy and could have swept if they didn't dribble down their legs after scoring 4 in the top of the 1st in Friday's game.  They cut the lead to 2 in game 1 but the sun went down and it went back to a 12-6 game.  Cal Lu gave up 0 earned runs in the double-header sweep but gave up 13 unearned runs over the weekend.  Yuck.

Redlands swept Whittier with what looked like pretty solid pitching all weekend for the Bulldogs.  Whittier only scored 6 runs in the 3 games which didn't help.

Chapman continued their impressive start with 2 butt-whoopings against Pomona but game 3 was a tight one with a few lead changes.  Pomona has lost 8 in a row after a pretty good start and this is just like last year.  Their pitching is really letting them down.  Chapman got beat last night in a non-conference game against Redlands but they should get back on track this weekend with Concordia (Wisc) coming to CA.

It's too early to say who stands out but if I had to make a guess I would say the top 4 would be Chapman, Cal Lu, Redlands and La Verne/Oxy.  I think the 4th spot will be a very competitive race.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 03, 2017, 12:41:03 PM
Weekend Prediction time...

Oxy/Caltech- Oxy wins a couple of close games but I am still holding out hope for a Beavers win!

Redlands has Kean tonight and thats it.  It's nice to have all of your pitching available for one game but we will see which offensive team shows up.

La Verne/CMS- La Verne should sweep this one but there will be some pretty tight games. Other than taking 2 from Cal Lu, La Verne really hasn't done a whole lot.

Pomona/Whittier- I think the Poets take 2/3 if they can play defense.  Pomona isn't nearly as good as I thought and they are in a major slump.  Whittier played Redlands very tight and should have won the series against Oxy.

Chapman host's Concordia from Wisconsin.  The Panthers will take all 3 of these.

Cal Lu has Kean for a single game on Saturday.  Kean/Cal Lu games have always been very close and I expent the same tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 03, 2017, 05:59:18 PM
JP,

Yes, the CLU vs Kean should be a close game.  And a good out-of-region challenge for the Kingsman.
Kean is upto #14, rising from last weeks #19.  YTD they are 6-1 (not sure level of competition).

CLU's pitchers are doing well, 21 Earned runs in 9 games, ERA 2.52. 
Already given up 17 Unearned runs on 15 errors!


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 03, 2017, 08:32:54 PM
Whittier takes Game 1 at Whittier, 3-2.  Don't crowd me getting back on the bandwagon.   ;)

Poets' Ushio out-duels Gerics for 7 innings.  Pomona tied the game in the 9th, but Whittier plates the game winner with one out in the bottom of the frame.

Poets needed this one.

Looks like a tight series on tap.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 05, 2017, 12:53:23 AM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 03, 2017, 05:59:18 PM
JP,

Yes, the CLU vs Kean should be a close game.  And a good out-of-region challenge for the Kingsman.
Kean is upto #14, rising from last weeks #19.  YTD they are 6-1 (not sure level of competition).

CLU's pitchers are doing well, 21 Earned runs in 9 games, ERA 2.52. 
Already given up 17 Unearned runs on 15 errors!

Another strong outing from Marshall P.  7 shutout innings Lowered ERA to 0.75 as CLU defeats Kean 5-2
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 06, 2017, 02:43:33 PM
A couple of nice wins for the SCIAC over Kean after Redlands imploded on Friday.  Pautsch dominated and La Verne used their entire squad to win in walk-off fashion.

Not much of a change in my eyes as to who the top teams in the SCIAC are but I think someone needs to tell the OXY SID that their headline of "Tigers sweep Caltech, move into first" isn't the case.  I'm no math major but a team that is 6-0 is ahead of a team that is 7-2.

Most teams take a break from conference play but the Cal Lu/Redlands series is a big one for both teams.  I don't think either can afford a sweep and even losing 2/3 would really hurt them.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 08, 2017, 01:56:52 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 06, 2017, 02:43:33 PM
A couple of nice wins for the SCIAC over Kean after Redlands imploded on Friday.  Pautsch dominated and La Verne used their entire squad to win in walk-off fashion.

Not much of a change in my eyes as to who the top teams in the SCIAC are but I think someone needs to tell the OXY SID that their headline of "Tigers sweep Caltech, move into first" isn't the case.  I'm no math major but a team that is 6-0 is ahead of a team that is 7-2.

Most teams take a break from conference play but the Cal Lu/Redlands series is a big one for both teams.  I don't think either can afford a sweep and even losing 2/3 would really hurt them.
I agree with you. I think that the 7-2 team is 1/2 game behind in the standings.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Skips Soldier on March 09, 2017, 01:40:50 PM
After Chapman beat up on a pretty good Kean team a few days ago I fully expect them to sweep Whittier this weekend. There is no way the Poets will be able to stop Skip's explosive offense this weekend. The Panthers will be 9-0 in conference after the weekend.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 09, 2017, 02:09:24 PM
Quote from: Skips Soldier on March 09, 2017, 01:40:50 PM
After Chapman beat up on a pretty good Kean team a few days ago I fully expect them to sweep Whittier this weekend. There is no way the Poets will be able to stop Skip's explosive offense this weekend. The Panthers will be 9-0 in conference after the weekend.

I just love this guy... :D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 09, 2017, 02:10:56 PM
Quote from: Skips Soldier on March 09, 2017, 01:40:50 PM
After Chapman beat up on a pretty good Kean team a few days ago I fully expect them to sweep Whittier this weekend. There is no way the Poets will be able to stop Skip's explosive offense this weekend. The Panthers will be 9-0 in conference after the weekend.

Seriously...you need to show more confidence in your team.   8-)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 09, 2017, 02:20:07 PM
Quote from: Skips Soldier on March 09, 2017, 01:40:50 PM
After Chapman beat up on a pretty good Kean team a few days ago I fully expect them to sweep Whittier this weekend. There is no way the Poets will be able to stop Skip's explosive offense this weekend. The Panthers will be 9-0 in conference after the weekend.

Is Kean really that good?  I know they are highly ranked but their trip to CA has been a disaster.  Had Redland's not decided to piss down their leg in the 9th inning, they would be 0-5 on their trip.  The SCIAC teams are already in conference play so it has mostly been staff days for all of them.  Before anyone says these games don't matter, I can assure you they do.  The committee is going to look back at these games while looking at resumes when at-large bids are in consideration.

This has nothing to do with Chapman beating them as Chapman has had a great start.  There are still plenty of games left to work things out in the SCIAC so we will see what happens.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 10, 2017, 11:15:11 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 09, 2017, 02:20:07 PM
Quote from: Skips Soldier on March 09, 2017, 01:40:50 PM
After Chapman beat up on a pretty good Kean team a few days ago I fully expect them to sweep Whittier this weekend. There is no way the Poets will be able to stop Skip's explosive offense this weekend. The Panthers will be 9-0 in conference after the weekend.

Is Kean really that good?  I know they are highly ranked but their trip to CA has been a disaster.  Had Redland's not decided to piss down their leg in the 9th inning, they would be 0-5 on their trip.  The SCIAC teams are already in conference play so it has mostly been staff days for all of them.  Before anyone says these games don't matter, I can assure you they do.  The committee is going to look back at these games while looking at resumes when at-large bids are in consideration.

This has nothing to do with Chapman beating them as Chapman has had a great start.  There are still plenty of games left to work things out in the SCIAC so we will see what happens.

Either Kean is not that good or the SCIAC is pretty darn good.  Whittier (with their #5 pitcher) had the tying run on 3rd with 1 out and then runners on 2nd and 3rd with 2 out in the bottom of the 9th with a chance to notch a win in what turned out to be a 2-1 loss.

The Poets current lack of hitting is separating them from wins, or more specifically, lack of timely hitting.  The pitching, on the whole, is improved over last year.  The defense is picking up.  If the Poets can wake up the bats, they can pester some wins away from teams that may otherwise look past them.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 10, 2017, 08:49:29 PM
FTP
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on March 10, 2017, 08:50:27 PM
Quote from: Skips Soldier on March 09, 2017, 01:40:50 PM
After Chapman beat up on a pretty good Kean team a few days ago I fully expect them to sweep Whittier this weekend. There is no way the Poets will be able to stop Skip's explosive offense this weekend. The Panthers will be 9-0 in conference after the weekend.

Not a fan of either team but when read this I  had to watch today's game,  because I knew the baseball gods would not be amused. 

They did not disappoint me.  7-5 Poets.

hahahahahahahahahaha

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 11, 2017, 01:31:43 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on March 10, 2017, 08:50:27 PM
Quote from: Skips Soldier on March 09, 2017, 01:40:50 PM
After Chapman beat up on a pretty good Kean team a few days ago I fully expect them to sweep Whittier this weekend. There is no way the Poets will be able to stop Skip's explosive offense this weekend. The Panthers will be 9-0 in conference after the weekend.

Not a fan of either team but when read this I  had to watch today's game,  because I knew the baseball gods would not be amused. 

They did not disappoint me.  7-5 Poets.


It is never good practice to tempt the Gods of Baseball.
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Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on March 11, 2017, 04:34:32 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 11, 2017, 01:31:43 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on March 10, 2017, 08:50:27 PM
Quote from: Skips Soldier on March 09, 2017, 01:40:50 PM
After Chapman beat up on a pretty good Kean team a few days ago I fully expect them to sweep Whittier this weekend. There is no way the Poets will be able to stop Skip's explosive offense this weekend. The Panthers will be 9-0 in conference after the weekend.

Not a fan of either team but when read this I  had to watch today's game,  because I knew the baseball gods would not be amused. 

They did not disappoint me.  7-5 Poets.


It is never good practice to tempt the Gods of Baseball.
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Game two:  6-4 Poets.  The gods are really p.o.'d!

Soldier, I hope Skip and the team don't know what you did to them.  Better do something to cancel out the bad juju and fast!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 11, 2017, 08:52:41 PM
Hey Skip. Come on down, dinners ready.
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Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 12, 2017, 02:55:44 PM
Proud of the Poets' effort - it was good to see what the team is capable of when the hitting is timely and the pitching and defense play to capability.  Still such a fine line as game 3 showed.  The margin for error is so fine.  There are few teams we can't beat when we play our game, but also few teams that can't beat us when we don't.  I think they found some things out about themselves by beating a very good Chapman team 2 of 3.  Maybe in the crazy SCIAC it isn't too late...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 13, 2017, 11:04:10 AM
Occi and LaVerne playing very well in last 10 games.
(obligatory disclaimer:  both include 3 vs CalTech)

Of note, or maybe not:
Besides CalTech, Common SCIAC opponent this year is CLU;  LaVerne 2-1;  Occi 1-2

At this point I would say LaVerne narrowly looks to be #1... but 2/3 of the SCIAC season still to go!


                             CONFERENCE      OVERALL
                             GP   WL   PCT           PF   PA      GP   W-L   PCT           PF   PA   L10   STRK
OCCIDENTAL         9   7-2   0.778   71   47      18   13-5   0.722   145   93   8-2   Won 7
CHAPMAN              9   7-2   0.778   73   36      19   13-6   0.684   155   108   6-4   Won 1
LA VERNE              9   7-2   0.778   64   30            17    12-5 0.706       133  79    9-1  Won 5
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on March 13, 2017, 11:26:25 AM
Chapman can not expect to get into regionals in 2017 losing to teams like Whittier. Lots of season left but in real trouble imo
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 13, 2017, 11:34:14 AM
Quote from: SoCalBaseballfan on March 13, 2017, 11:26:25 AM
Chapman can not expect to get into regionals in 2017 losing to teams like Whittier. Lots of season left but in real trouble imo

Actually, they can expect to qualify for the West Regional, if they qualify for, and win, the conference tournament.  What they probably can't expect is an At-Large bid.

Given the records of the SCIAC teams to date, it is hard to imagine  the SCIAC getting 2 teams in.  At this point in time anyway.  But then, it's been a weird season, no team seems unscathed.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 13, 2017, 12:20:42 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 13, 2017, 11:34:14 AM
Quote from: SoCalBaseballfan on March 13, 2017, 11:26:25 AM
Chapman can not expect to get into regionals in 2017 losing to teams like Whittier. Lots of season left but in real trouble imo

Actually, they can expect to qualify for the West Regional, if they qualify for, and win, the conference tournament.  What they probably can't expect is an At-Large bid.

Given the records of the SCIAC teams to date, it is hard to imagine  the SCIAC getting 2 teams in.  At this point in time anyway.  But then, it's been a weird season, no team seems unscathed.

I agree on this 100% for the simple fact that the SOS in the SCIAC is awful right now.  A majority of the non-conference games will wrap up in the next few weeks and once they do, the SOS for the SCIAC teams will pretty much stay stagnant. 

SOS of the SCIAC Schools as listed on this site.

Cal Lu- 75
Redlands- 114
Whittier- 134
Caltech- 144
Pomona- 161
La Verne- 181
Chapman- 226
Claremont- 238
Oxy- 253

The standings right now do not really tell me much as far as the top 4 go but I look at the results overall to see who I think makes the top 4.  The SOS of the SCIAC really hurts a lot of teams looking to get an at-large bid if they don't win the SCIAC tourney and at this point the SCIAC is a one bid league.  I don't see that changing by the end of the year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 13, 2017, 12:39:52 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 13, 2017, 11:04:10 AM
Occi and LaVerne playing very well in last 10 games.


Oxy has played Cal Lu (7-6), Caltech (2-14), Kean (8-5), Schreiner (8-11) and Southern Vermont (2-4).  Not exactly a stacked schedule.

La Verne (last 12 games) has played Cal Lu (7-6), Caltech (2-14), Claremont (7-6), Kean (8-5), and Schreiner (8-11).

Not to discount either team as the games still have to be played (and won), but these schedules have not been the most challenging.  As mentioned, plenty of baseball left to be played.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 13, 2017, 02:12:32 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 13, 2017, 12:20:42 PM


I agree on this 100% for the simple fact that the SOS in the SCIAC is awful right now.  A majority of the non-conference games will wrap up in the next few weeks and once they do, the SOS for the SCIAC teams will pretty much stay stagnant. 

SOS of the SCIAC Schools as listed on this site.

Cal Lu- 75
Redlands- 114
Whittier- 134
Caltech- 144
Pomona- 161
La Verne- 181
Chapman- 226
Claremont- 238
Oxy- 253

The standings right now do not really tell me much as far as the top 4 go but I look at the results overall to see who I think makes the top 4.  The SOS of the SCIAC really hurts a lot of teams looking to get an at-large bid if they don't win the SCIAC tourney and at this point the SCIAC is a one bid league.  I don't see that changing by the end of the year.

If I recall, Cal Lu's SOS wasn't typically below 100. 
And typically the other SCIAC teams weren't below 150.
 
CLU's early season games out of conference games against Linfield, Pacific, Sul Ross and Kean must be contributing.   And they still have Berry (2x), Willamette, Williams (2x), Linfield (again), Puget Sound and big 3 games away against sister school Pacific Lutheran.


Let's see if Slims attempt to improve SOS helps in the end.  I'm Probably oversimplifying and it's too obvious saying: they need to win them and do better in SCIAC for their SOS to be of any value.


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 13, 2017, 07:25:20 PM
Congrats to Caltech on a win vs. Southern Vermont today.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 13, 2017, 07:48:47 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 13, 2017, 07:25:20 PM
Congrats to Caltech on a win vs. Southern Vermont today.

Yes, nice come-from-behind win, scoring last 6 runs in 6th-8th to win!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on March 13, 2017, 08:08:24 PM
SCIAC will get only 1 team in the Regionals. Who know who that will be? Right now most teams still have a shot at making the conference tourney and win it. Only Cal Tech and Whittier look like they are out....

Nobody is really standing out now. POOR SOS and teams losing to teams that should not beat them.

3 teams are above .500 for the season but all have losses to teams that are less than .500 at this time.

??? ??? ???
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 19, 2017, 11:25:16 PM
It is good to have the Cal Tech wins over Bard and Southern Vermont. That will give us a better handle on how good Cal Tech is.

I have often thought that Cal Tech would be .500-ish in some conferences, especially some in New England and the Northeast.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 20, 2017, 05:29:30 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 19, 2017, 11:25:16 PM
It is good to have the Cal Tech wins over Bard and Southern Vermont. That will give us a better handle on how good Cal Tech is.

I have often thought that Cal Tech would be .500-ish in some conferences, especially some in New England and the Northeast.

There is no doubt in my mind on this.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 20, 2017, 06:05:01 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 19, 2017, 11:25:16 PM
It is good to have the Cal Tech wins over Bard and Southern Vermont. That will give us a better handle on how good Cal Tech is.

I have often thought that Cal Tech would be .500-ish in some conferences, especially some in New England and the Northeast.

After seeing Southern Vermont and Bard, I agree with you and Heys.  Coach Mark has done a great job in a few years and I think they will continue getting better and better.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 25, 2017, 12:59:53 AM
Claremont got no-hit for the 2nd time this season.  I hate the 7 inning no-hitter but that is just crazy that it's happened to them twice this year.  Ouch.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on March 27, 2017, 10:54:37 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 25, 2017, 12:59:53 AM
Claremont got no-hit for the 2nd time this season.  I hate the 7 inning no-hitter but that is just crazy that it's happened to them twice this year.  Ouch.
Who beat them?  That pitcher deserves recognition, even if it was only seven innings.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 28, 2017, 12:36:48 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 19, 2017, 11:25:16 PM
It is good to have the Cal Tech wins over Bard and Southern Vermont. That will give us a better handle on how good Cal Tech is.

I have often thought that Cal Tech would be .500-ish in some conferences, especially some in New England and the Northeast.

Agree 100% with this.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Appalachian Mtns on March 31, 2017, 08:50:09 PM
It happened!  :) So excited!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on March 31, 2017, 09:08:30 PM
So awesome!!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 31, 2017, 09:32:13 PM
Congratulations to Caltech on breaking through today.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Smitty Oom on March 31, 2017, 09:51:34 PM
Don't really follow D3 Baseball... was this CalTechs first ever conference win today?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 31, 2017, 10:31:25 PM
Quote from: Smitty Oom on March 31, 2017, 09:51:34 PM
Don't really follow D3 Baseball... was this CalTechs first ever conference win today?

First SCIAC win since 1988.  It's been a long time coming!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 31, 2017, 10:40:22 PM
Wow congrats to the team and all of the Cal Tech players who have come before them!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on April 01, 2017, 12:49:10 AM
Congrats to the Beavers! ;D

Anyone know how many consecutive conference losses that was?  With the number of games baseball teams play, I'm guessing between 500 and 600.  YIKES! :o

Until shown evidence otherwise, I'm gonna assume that is a record for any school, any sport.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 01, 2017, 11:31:43 AM
Congrats to CLU for 9th straight win; albeit aided by Chapmans 5 errors.
Earlier in the week they also had a come from behind against Linsfield in a Pitch by committee game.

If CLU could stop falling behind in games they may be looking at post-season play, but recently it doesn't look like their starting rotation is able to shut anybody down.
... then again, winning 9 in a row including 4 out of conference games is a still good thing!

Good luck today in twin bill at Chapman!


"For the sixth consecutive game, the No. 21 Cal Lutheran baseball team rallied from a deficit for a dramatic victory, earning its second walk-off win in those six games with an 8-7 thriller over No. 24 Chapman at Ullman Stadium on Friday afternoon.

With the win, the Kingsmen have now won nine straight games and have nine comeback victories overall this season. "

Upcoming out of conference games
Apr 13   at Puget Sound (Wash.)       
Apr 14   at Pacific Lutheran (Wash.)   
Apr 14   at Pacific Lutheran (Wash.)   
Apr 15   at Pacific Lutheran (Wash.


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 01, 2017, 08:04:30 PM
Quote from: Skips Soldier on March 09, 2017, 01:40:50 PM
After Chapman beat up on a pretty good Kean team a few days ago I fully expect them to sweep Whittier this weekend. There is no way the Poets will be able to stop Skip's explosive offense this weekend. The Panthers will be 9-0 in conference after the weekend.

Still waiting for Chapman to get to the 9 win mark...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 01, 2017, 08:25:32 PM
CLU pitching much better in today's sweep of Chapman.

No earned runs in their 3-0 and 4-3 victories.
This leaves them 10-5 in conference with CMS, Cal Tech and Whittier left before the year end round robin.

This is a big, much needed, sweep by Cal Lu.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on April 02, 2017, 03:59:45 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 01, 2017, 08:04:30 PM
Quote from: Skips Soldier on March 09, 2017, 01:40:50 PM
After Chapman beat up on a pretty good Kean team a few days ago I fully expect them to sweep Whittier this weekend. There is no way the Poets will be able to stop Skip's explosive offense this weekend. The Panthers will be 9-0 in conference after the weekend.

Still waiting for Chapman to get to the 9 win mark...
Chapman sitting in 5th in the SCIAC...Still may wait. Cal Tech plays teams tough. Could we see CAL TECH beat the Panthers next Friday or Saturday .Maybe....
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on April 02, 2017, 04:01:59 PM
Quote from: SoCalBaseballfan on April 02, 2017, 03:59:45 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 01, 2017, 08:04:30 PM
Quote from: Skips Soldier on March 09, 2017, 01:40:50 PM
After Chapman beat up on a pretty good Kean team a few days ago I fully expect them to sweep Whittier this weekend. There is no way the Poets will be able to stop Skip's explosive offense this weekend. The Panthers will be 9-0 in conference after the weekend.

Still waiting for Chapman to get to the 9 win mark...
Chapman sitting in 5th in the SCIAC...Still may wait for conference wins. Cal Tech plays teams tough. Could we see CAL TECH beat the Panthers next Friday or Saturday .Maybe....
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 03, 2017, 01:58:29 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 01, 2017, 08:04:30 PM
Quote from: Skips Soldier on March 09, 2017, 01:40:50 PM
After Chapman beat up on a pretty good Kean team a few days ago I fully expect them to sweep Whittier this weekend. There is no way the Poets will be able to stop Skip's explosive offense this weekend. The Panthers will be 9-0 in conference after the weekend.

Still waiting for Chapman to get to the 9 win mark...

;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 03, 2017, 02:10:48 PM
Went to the Whittier series at George Fox with 16 other families in a great show of support...which I believe is a testament to the support that the Whittier families have for the team win or lose.

Poets and Bruins went toe to toe over the weekend for 3 entertaining (despite the outcome) games.

Bruins stole Game 1 with a 8th inning 4-run rally only to see Whittier return the favor with a 5-run 9th to capture Game 2.  Game 3 was set up for another late inning steal by the Poets but the rally was abruptly cut short at 2 runs with two on and the go ahead run at the plate.  The young man who hit the go ahead 3-run dinger for Whittier in the morning session was again at the plate in the 9th looking for more.  But the GF pitcher induced him into a sharply hit grounder to end the threat.

Had a great time in and around Portland...I thought that the George Fox folks were excellent hosts.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 03, 2017, 06:34:26 PM
Heys- that is awesome to hear that so many families were able to make the trip up to Oregon.  Great to hear about that kind of support.

As far as the SCIAC goes, things are taking a little bit of shape but there are some pretty big series coming up that will determine the SCIAC tournament.

Oxy: 11-4 record with series against Redlands, Pomona and Chapman.  Although their SID  has the clinching number countdown started, they have some big work ahead of them.  They have a garbage SOS so the only way they get to TX is by winning the SCIAC tourney. One other note is that DeRaad didn't play this last series which could hurt them down the stretch but they have some pretty good offensive guys stepping up.

Redlands: 10-5 record after a wacky loss to CMS this past Saturday.  They still have La Verne, Oxy and Pomona to go.  Minjarez is lights out on Friday's but after that their pitching is average at best.

La Verne: 8-4 after dropping 2/3 to Oxy.  Still have Redlands, Pomona, Chapman and Whittier to go.  They can't afford too many losses the rest of the way.

Cal Lu: 10-5 after sweeping Chapman.  They have the easiest finish on paper with Whittier, Caltech and Claremont but that doesn't mean one thing this year as anyone can beat anyone.  They hold the tie-breaker with Oxy but not with Redlands or La Verne.  Currently on an 11 game winning streak and likely the only SCIAC school with a shot at an at-large bid.

Chapman: 7-5 and contrary to what Skips Soldier might think, they are not a guarantee to make the SCIAC tourney.  They still have Caltech, Claremont, La Verne and Oxy so there is still time to get that bid.

Claremont: 6-6 with Pomona, Chapman, Whittier and Cal Lu left.  They have shown the ability to beat good teams but they have also stunk it up a lot. 

Pomona: 4-8 This Pomona team will be a trivia answer for many years to come but they have the ability to spoil some seasons.  They still have Claremont, La Verne, Oxy and Redlands and they can hit as good as anyone in the league.  As long as they haven't mailed it in for the year I think Pomona could really shake things up.  Also, Nishioka is the SCIAC POY and I don't really think it's close.

Whittier: 3-9 after a competitive trip to Oregon.  Whittier is a dangerous team and always plays the top teams tough.  They have Cal Lu, Caltech, Claremont and La Verne so they could really play spoiler to a few of those schools.

Caltech: 1-14 but that is the 1 that has been a long time coming.  They have been so close over the past few years and have lost so many tight games it was bound to happen.  They still have Chapman, Whittier and Cal Lu and I'm not sure if they will win any of those but they finally got over the hump and I couldn't be happier for them and their fans.

Plenty of baseball left to be played and I think it will be an interesting finish.  As I said, I don't see many Pool C chances for the SCIAC but a lot could change between now and then.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on April 03, 2017, 07:32:06 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 03, 2017, 06:34:26 PM
Heys- that is awesome to hear that so many families were able to make the trip up to Oregon.  Great to hear about that kind of support.

As far as the SCIAC goes, things are taking a little bit of shape but there are some pretty series coming up that will determine the SCIAC tournament.

Oxy: 11-4 record with series against Redlands, Pomona and Chapman.  Although their SID  has the clinching number countdown started, they have some big work ahead of them.  They have a garbage SOS so the only way they get to TX is by winning the SCIAC tourney. One other note is that DeRaad didn't play this last series which could hurt them down the stretch but they have some pretty good offensive guys stepping up.

Redlands: 10-5 record after a wacky loss to CMS this past Saturday.  They still have La Verne, Oxy and Pomona to go.  Minjarez is lights out on Friday's but after that their pitching is average at best.

La Verne: 8-4 after dropping 2/3 to Oxy.  Still have Redlands, Pomona, Chapman and Whittier to go.  They can't afford too many losses the rest of the way.

Cal Lu: 10-5 after sweeping Chapman.  They have the easiest finish on paper with Whittier, Caltech and Claremont but that doesn't mean one thing this year as anyone can beat anyone.  They hold the tie-breaker with Oxy but not with Redlands or La Verne.  Currently on an 11 game winning streak and likely the only SCIAC school with a shot at an at-large bid.

Chapman: 7-5 and contrary to what Skips Soldier might think, they are not a guarantee to make the SCIAC tourney.  They still have Caltech, Claremont, La Verne and Oxy so there is still time to get that bid.

Claremont: 6-6 with Pomona, Chapman, Whittier and Cal Lu left.  They have shown the ability to beat good teams but they have also stunk it up a lot. 

Pomona: 4-8 This Pomona team will be a trivia answer for many years to come but they have the ability to spoil some seasons.  They still have Claremont, La Verne, Oxy and Redlands and they can hit as good as anyone in the league.  As long as they haven't mailed it in for the year I think Pomona could really shake things up.  Also, Nishioka is the SCIAC POY and I don't really think it's close.

Whittier: 3-9 after a competitive trip to Oregon.  Whittier is a dangerous team and always plays the top teams tough.  They have Cal Lu, Caltech, Claremont and La Verne so they could really play spoiler to a few of those schools.

Caltech: 1-14 but that is the 1 that has been a long time coming.  They have been so close over the past few years and have lost so many tight games it was bound to happen.  They still have Chapman, Whittier and Cal Lu and I'm not sure if they will win any of those but they finally got over the hump and I couldn't be happier for them and their fans.

Plenty of baseball left to be played and I think it will be an interesting finish.  As I said, I don't see many Pool C chances for the SCIAC but a lot could change between now and then.
Where Skips Soldier...What is going on with the Panthers ???  Lose 2 to Whittier and 3 to Cal Lu. Better wake for Cal Tech...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Skips Soldier on April 05, 2017, 04:16:52 PM
I completely agree. The team seems to do this around this time every year under Laverty. They hit a snag in the schedule and start playing some really poor baseball. This team seemed different but there is still plenty of time to bring things together. I thought they might struggle a little against Cal Lu, but did not expect to get swept. Hope the Panthers can change the way it's been going lately and really the last 4 years. They cannot look over any team in the SCIAC especially after they've played recently in conference.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 09, 2017, 08:51:11 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on April 01, 2017, 11:31:43 AM
Congrats to CLU for 9th straight win; albeit aided by Chapmans 5 errors.
Earlier in the week they also had a come from behind against Linsfield in a Pitch by committee game.

If CLU could stop falling behind in games they may be looking at post-season play, but recently it doesn't look like their starting rotation is able to shut anybody down.
... then again, winning 9 in a row including 4 out of conference games is a still good thing!

Good luck today in twin bill at Chapman!


"For the sixth consecutive game, the No. 21 Cal Lutheran baseball team rallied from a deficit for a dramatic victory, earning its second walk-off win in those six games with an 8-7 thriller over No. 24 Chapman at Ullman Stadium on Friday afternoon.

With the win, the Kingsmen have now won nine straight games and have nine comeback victories overall this season. "

Upcoming out of conference games
Apr 13   at Puget Sound (Wash.)       
Apr 14   at Pacific Lutheran (Wash.)   
Apr 14   at Pacific Lutheran (Wash.)   
Apr 15   at Pacific Lutheran (Wash.

Another strong weekend for Cal Lu starters.  Two complete games (Marshall P and Nate W)and string bullpen to sweep Whittier.   Looks like they aren't using Their season beginning #1 trey Saito on the mound these days.  14 game win streak with both Conf and non-Conf wins included.


They head up north for what I expect to be critical regional trip with game vs Puget Sound and 3 (yes 3!) against Pac Lu, their sister school.

Massey and coaches have favorable rankings and stats for CLU, but a positive trip will go much further in determining Regional rankings.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 10, 2017, 11:53:50 AM
The SCIAC is starting to take shape for the top 4 spots.  It looks like there are 5 teams going for the top 4 spots and plenty of teams going for the top 4 still have to play each other.

Oxy: 11-4 with Redlands, Pomona and Chapman left to play.  I see them losing 3-4 of these games and am not sold on them one bit.  Getting thumped 16-4 by a very average Pacific team doesn't look very good.  With their SOS (203) there is only one way they are getting a bid and that is to win the SCIAC Tournament.  I thought they would have learned to schedule better after getting left out last year but I guess I was wrong.

Cal Lu: 13-5 with Caltech and Claremont left to play.  Obviously they are set up in pretty good position to win out, but the games still have to be played.  They have won 14 in a row and have a big series up in Tacoma this weekend.  Their SOS is 55 right now but that is going to take a hit with Caltech and Claremont.  I think Cal Lu is the only school with a shot at a Pool C if they don't win the SCIAC tourney and I do think they will win the regular season title and host the tourney.

Chapman: 10-5 with Claremont, La Verne and Oxy left.  Been a little up and down recently but I am confident they will make the SCIAC tourney but they cannot afford another weekend of getting swept.

La Verne: 10-5 with Pomona, Chapman and Whittier left.  La Verne is the least sexy team in the SCIAC and are pretty average overall record wise but they are in good position to make the SCIAC Tourney.  All they hav eto do is look back to 2015 when they won the SCIAC Tourney as the 4-seed.

Redlands: 11-7 with Oxy and Pomona left.  Redlands has had a very up and down season and they can't afford any more losses.  I think they have as good of a shot at winning on Fridays as anyone but after that it gets really questionable.

Pomona, Claremont, Whittier and Caltech will have to wait until next year to make a run at the tourney.

My final standings and prediction for the tourney...
1) Cal Lu 19-5
2)Chapman 17-7
3) Oxy 16-8
4) La Verne 15-9
5) Redlands 14-10

Obviously I am not always the best at picking but I think that's where it ends up.  Cal Lu has the tie-breaker with both Chapman and Oxy but I don't see Cal Lu losing to Claremont or Caltech.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 10, 2017, 02:35:30 PM
Cal Lu is the best all around team we've played this year.  They don't have the biggest guys, the hardest throwers, an abundance of power at the plate, or anything that'll make your eyes bug out.  They play good situational baseball, they minimize the impact of their mistakes, and they more often than not capitalize on the opponents mistakes.  They are less flawed than the other teams we have faced, is a way I would put it.

That said, I think they're margin for error is not as wide as some other teams they've had.  To win they need to play well.  They are good but they are a beatable team.

Game 3 they had to play very well on defense to keep the game from getting away and kept it within range for a comeback.  I didn't feel as if we were beaten so much as out-executed in the nightcap.

I love that stadium.  What a great venue.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on April 10, 2017, 03:26:46 PM
It's not about the team size, names on the jersey's, or for that matter history. It is about getting hot and/or playing solid baseball at the end of the season.

I saw that LaVerne team in the West Regional and they did not "look" impressive but they were scrappy and played solid baseball. They beat some really good teams and had Trinity down 4-2 in the bottom of the 8th and the only reason they lost that game was their closer had a melt down and Trinity scored 5 to go on and win the Regional and came one game short of the CWS finals.

As a side note I saw their coach at the CWS and he said he was still re-living that game...  :'(

... as CrashDavis always said win your conference so you don't have to worry about some guys worrying about flying costs to select teams for the regions.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 10, 2017, 05:11:08 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 10, 2017, 02:35:30 PM
Cal Lu is the best all around team we've played this year so far.  They don't have the biggest guys, the hardest throwers, an abundance of power at the plate, or anything that'll make your eyes bug out.  They play good situational baseball, they minimize the impact of their mistakes, and they more often than not capitalize on the opponents mistakes.  They are less flawed than the other teams we have faced, is a way I would put it.

That said, I think they're margin for error is not as wide as some other teams they've had.  To win they need to play well.  They are good but they are beatable team.

Game 3 they had to play very well on defense to keep the game from getting away and kept it within range for a comeback.  I didn't feel as if we were beaten so much as out-executed in the nightcap.

I love that stadium.  What a great venue.

Fixed it...out of respect to teams we have yet to play.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on April 11, 2017, 12:44:44 AM
SCIAC Tourney Predictions

These teams get in:
1) Cal Lutheran
2) Occidental
3) La Verne
4) Chapman

Cal Lu wins the tourney and gets Pool A bid. All others stay home
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ludawg6 on April 13, 2017, 02:10:26 PM
Long time lurker, few time poster... so happy to finally see the alma mater come up north and play a few up here. So glad I don't have to drive to Linfield to catch one game and go home - this weekend I get 4 games!!! only snag is I have to leave eeeaarrrllly Friday during game 1 to get my kids from school then have them come out for the afternoon game - with all of us sporting the graple... hopefully we can snag a few wins and force that Pool C bid if we stumble in the conference tourney... hopefully the less than desirable weather (low 50's, a little wind and rain in the forecast) won't trip us up these next few days... here's hoping.... and, as always Cal-Lu, Cal-Lu...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 14, 2017, 01:56:00 PM
Lu Dawg,

Thanks for going to games and supporting current team.


If I recall you were there at Linfiled  during regionals a couple years ago... Elimination night, extra inning loss.


Ps: you still fit in your jersey?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on April 15, 2017, 04:27:53 PM
Hey Skips Soldier HOW does Chapman lose to CMS???

Sad what has happen to this once proud baseball program since Coach T was removed.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on April 15, 2017, 06:12:57 PM
Certainly Skip's soldier deserves ribbing for his overconfident Panther plugs, but to call  Chapman a "once proud baseball program" is just trolling.

11-6 in conference, 20-10 overall.  Currently tied for 3rd place. 

But CMS is winning game 3 right now. Maybe they're getting better.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on April 15, 2017, 08:16:51 PM
Welp, the Panthers came back from 7-0 to win 12-7 and take the series. If you do that every weekend you're doing okay.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 16, 2017, 09:17:13 AM
Quote from: MIFDad on April 15, 2017, 06:12:57 PM
Certainly Skip's soldier deserves ribbing for his overconfident Panther plugs, but to call  Chapman a "once proud baseball program" is just trolling.

My $.02 on this....
In the last 20 years Chapman has been one of the best D3 programs in the country.  That all changed a few years ago when they got rid of Coach T and hired Laverty.
College World Series- '97,'00,'01,'03,'05,'06,'07,'08,'09,'11
National Champs in '03
Regionals- All years above as well as '98,'99,'04,'10

Since the change in coaching, and joining the SCIAC, they have gone to the SCIAC Tournament twice and finished 6th the other time.  Not exactly whipping up on the SCIAC since they joined. Maybe it was a huge overhaul when Laverty took over but something changed around 2012 and Chapman became just another program.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 16, 2017, 09:35:40 AM
SCIAC Top 4 getting a little closer to taking shape but some key series yet to be played.

1) Cal Lu          13-5 with Caltech and Claremont left.  They have the tie-breaker over Chapman and Oxy
2) Chapman     12-6 with La Verne and Oxy left.  They have the tie-breaker over Redlands
2) Occidental    12-6 with Pomona and Chapman left.  They have the tie-breaker over La Verne
2) La Verne       12-6 with Chapman and Whittier left.  They have the tie-breaker with Cal Lu and Redlands
5) Redlands      13-8 with Pomona left.  They have the tie-breaker over Cal Lu and Oxy

So many things could happen but Chapman having 2 of the teams they are tied with will obviously work that whole scenario out. My prediction for the last 2 weeks....

Cal Lu goes 6-0
Chapman goes 4-2; 2-1 vs La Verne and 2-1 vs Oxy
Oxy goes 3-3; 2-1 vs Pomona and 1-2 vs Chapman
La Verne goes 4-2; 1-2 vs Chapman and 3-0 vs Whittier
Redlands goes 2-1 vs Pomona

Final Standings:
1) Cal Lu 19-5
2) Chapman 16-8 (Gets the home game with the tie-breaker over La Verne)
3) La Verne 16-8
4) Redlands 15-9 and gets the 4th spot due to the tie-breaker over Oxy



Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on April 17, 2017, 08:32:41 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 16, 2017, 09:17:13 AM
Quote from: MIFDad on April 15, 2017, 06:12:57 PM
Certainly Skip's soldier deserves ribbing for his overconfident Panther plugs, but to call  Chapman a "once proud baseball program" is just trolling.

My $.02 on this....
In the last 20 years Chapman has been one of the best D3 programs in the country.  That all changed a few years ago when they got rid of Coach T and hired Laverty.
College World Series- '97,'00,'01,'03,'05,'06,'07,'08,'09,'11
National Champs in '03
Regionals- All years above as well as '98,'99,'04,'10

Since the change in coaching, and joining the SCIAC, they have gone to the SCIAC Tournament twice and finished 6th the other time.  Not exactly whipping up on the SCIAC since they joined. Maybe it was a huge overhaul when Laverty took over but something changed around 2012 and Chapman became just another program.
I stand by what I say. I watched almost ever game Chapman played from 2007 thru 2011. Until Chapman can consistently get to the regionals, they are just another team with an average coach
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ludawg6 on April 17, 2017, 11:23:07 AM
Yep, its me, same guy, and while I still don't fit into the old game worn uni's, I still can snugly fit into the "alumni" version of our old uniform... but really didn't need it since I was covered up in layer upon layer of gore-tex...

Rough weekend for the graple to say the least... rain, sun, rain, delay, sun, rain, thunder, delay, sun, rain, hail, delay, etc etc etc... not making any excuses, just not the most memorable trip for the boys. As a native of the PNW, I grew up playing in this crap and reason #1 why I went south to find a better baseball environment at the Lu... but baseball is about adjusting to what your opponent (or Mother Nature) gives you and we just didn't get the job done... give PLU props for stringing together hits when needed and getting that timely hit to plunge the dagger into us... for some reason, I feel we are gonna see these guys again in May... and should be a different result...

It was fun, however, meeting and getting to know some of the parents that traveled up to our soggy corner of the country. I have noticed at the football games, and now with baseball this weekend - CLU travels well... met some nice people, hung out with my old college roommate (emphasis on OLD), and was able to watch a little baseball in the meantime... but on the better side of things, a friend of mine has a daughter who is a senior in H.S. and her decision between PLU and CLU was in the balance - we made a deal that the winner of the series got her... whoops, that didnt go as planned... but - after sitting in the rain Friday afternoon, she made the right choice - she is on her way to T.O.!!!

Finally - great to have dinner with Slim and the coaching staff Wednesday evening... Refreshing to know that Slim is, and always will be Slim. he is a one of a kind guy, and I will forever value his friendship, guidance, and above his ability to just be Slim... and yes, he did throw BP back in the day (not very well,I might add but better than Hill)... it was fun to share with his staff stories from yesteryear - van wars, The Mighty Quinn, and the Kingsmen Surprise were all discussed in detail... but, it did make me feel a little old....  Cal-Lu, Cal-Lu...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 17, 2017, 05:48:16 PM
Fantastic update LuDawg6!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Colorado on April 24, 2017, 01:06:16 AM
Don't know about how the other CU dads might see it, but my son played at Chapman for both Laverty and Coach T, and one difference between the 2 was accountability. Laverty knows how to coach and took Redlands to the Western Regionals one year with an overachieving team. But with T, you needed to consistently perform in order to play. If you messed up, missed a sign, had a mediocre effort, walked too many guys in a game, kept making the same mistakes, you might sit for awhile or the rest of your time there. Don't get me wrong, T knew how to give strokes out for good effect and was mostly calm (especially to the older players) but every now and then, he was known to put out some biting sarcasm (or explode with a brief but effective rant) that kept a guy and maybe the team on their toes. Laverty is a good man. He's done a good job of handling his pitchers especially the ones coming back from injury. People like him but good or bad, there's no consequences about failing or losing. 

On those last few nationally ranked panther teams (which I saw), there were a number of guys who were above-average focused and mentally tough. Gamers expecting to win.  Everybody wants to win but there's just a few guys on a given team that have that hard nosed attitude about winning. T's approach maybe encouraged those kind of guys to rise up, be recognized and make good things consistently happen. I can name a half dozen guys like that who led the 2011 team, rode herd on the others and kept the team together, chemistry-wise, on and off the field (especially that last World Series team in 2011).

Just an observation from an old poster on this board-there's no right answer: Fact is --- Chapman is having a good year. The lineup is as good on paper as any lineup put out there in past years. The pitching has lacked some consistency it seems but it's a young staff with some good arms and who knows, they could get hot over these last few games. Hope so.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 24, 2017, 02:36:35 PM
The last week of the SCIAC season is going to be a good one as there are currently 6 teams battling it out for the top 4 spots.

Cal Lu 16-5 with Claremont left.  Winning 2/3 wraps up the top seed and hosting for the SCIAC Tournament.
La Verne 14-7 with Whittier left.  Has the tiebreaker with Cal Lu but will need some help from Claremont to get the #1 seed.
Chapman 13-8 with a huge series against Oxy. 
Oxy 13-8 with a huge series against Chapman.
Redlands 13-8 with Pomona left.  They cannot afford a sweep and losing 2/3 would be very dangerous.
Pomona 10-11 with Redlands this weekend.  Anything less than a sweep means no SCIAC Tournament.

Tiebreakers could easily come into play after this weekend and I have no clea how all of them work.  The Chapman/Oxy/Redlands deal is going to be a good one.  Chapman has the tiebreaker over Redlands, and Redlands has it over Oxy...which means Oxy cannot afford to lose more than 1 game.  I'm glad to see there are still so many teams in the running for the top 4 and am looking forward to the weekend.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 24, 2017, 07:27:01 PM
While it sucks to be a bystander as far as the 4 team entry pass, Whittier has an opportunity to deny La Verne a shot at 1st place.  I look to that bringing out some competitive juice in the series.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on April 24, 2017, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: Colorado on April 24, 2017, 01:06:16 AM
Don't know about how the other CU dads might see it, but my son played at Chapman for both Laverty and Coach T, and one difference between the 2 was accountability. Laverty knows how to coach and took Redlands to the Western Regionals one year with an overachieving team. But with T, you needed to consistently perform in order to play. If you messed up, missed a sign, had a mediocre effort, walked too many guys in a game, kept making the same mistakes, you might sit for awhile or the rest of your time there. Don't get me wrong, T knew how to give strokes out for good effect and was mostly calm (especially to the older players) but every now and then, he was known to put out some biting sarcasm (or explode with a brief but effective rant) that kept a guy and maybe the team on their toes. Laverty is a good man. He's done a good job of handling his pitchers especially the ones coming back from injury. People like him but good or bad, there's no consequences about failing or losing. 

On those last few nationally ranked panther teams (which I saw), there were a number of guys who were above-average focused and mentally tough. Gamers expecting to win.  Everybody wants to win but there's just a few guys on a given team that have that hard nosed attitude about winning. T's approach maybe encouraged those kind of guys to rise up, be recognized and make good things consistently happen. I can name a half dozen guys like that who led the 2011 team, rode herd on the others and kept the team together, chemistry-wise, on and off the field (especially that last World Series team in 2011).

Just an observation from an old poster on this board-there's no right answer: Fact is --- Chapman is having a good year. The lineup is as good on paper as any lineup put out there in past years. The pitching has lacked some consistency it seems but it's a young staff with some good arms and who knows, they could get hot over these last few games. Hope so.
Thanks for your insight.
I watched every game from 2007 thru 2011. I went to 4 trips to Appleton. A good year was a trip to the Regionals in my opinion and expectation. Team expected every year to get to the DIII Championship Series. T was tough and was not for every player. But he got the most out his players and most but not all loved playing for him. He raised the bar high.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on April 28, 2017, 08:52:55 AM
5 teams 4 spots for conference tourney for the POOL A bid for NCAA Regional playoff spot. Last weekend of conference games.
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2016-17/standings

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 28, 2017, 05:04:23 PM
Quote from: SoCalBaseballfan on April 28, 2017, 08:52:55 AM
5 teams 4 spots for conference tourney for the POOL A bid for NCAA Regional playoff spot. Last weekend of conference games.
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2016-17/standings

Hey now, my Hens aren't (technically) out of it yet. A sweep of Redlands, along with a Chapman sweep of Oxy puts PP tied for fourth at 13-11 with both U of R and Oxy. They would hold the tiebreaker over both teams.

Hoping for some quality ball as Sagehen alums will be descending en mass to alumni field for Saturday's doubleheader, shouting juvenile taunts and boasting hyperbolically of their former glories.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on April 28, 2017, 08:18:55 PM
Chapman leads the SCIAC in hitting and fielding but not pitching or standings
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 28, 2017, 09:44:00 PM
Cal Lu takes an absolute dump today and drops the series opener to CMS.  I thought Whittier was going to help them out but they couldn't put La Verne away.  Cal Lu has no choice but to win both games tomorrow or they are putting themselves in a very bad position.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on April 29, 2017, 01:54:26 AM
Hot.
Windy.
I wouldn't go to those solute games Saturday if I was invited to sit in an air-conditioned press box.
Weather will be a factor.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on April 29, 2017, 07:31:56 PM
Looks like SCIAC has it 4 teams for the SCIAC tournament. Congrats to all teams

Cal Lutheran
La Verne
Chapman
Redlands

Still seems that Cal Lu is the favorite but Chapman with its big bats has a shot at its first regional in many years. It be nice to see the Panthers return to the Regional playoffs
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 30, 2017, 01:47:35 PM
My recap (that nobody asked for) of the 2017 SCIAC season...

Player of the year is no doubt Nishioka from Pomona.  He is a no doubt AA this year.
Pitcher of the year should be Minjarez from Redlands.  He is as solid of a Friday guy as it gets.
Coach of the Year should be Matt Mark from Caltech.  Anyone who says "but Caltech went 2-22" doesn't fully understand what he has done in Pasadena.  Caltech got their first SCIAC win since 1988 and first 2-win SCIAC season since 1973!  Just 2 years ago, the Beavers were routinely getting beat by 10+ runs but they have become so much more competitive and I think that will continue.

I am not surprised by the 4 teams in the SCIAC Tourney and think it should be a pretty competitive tournament.  I'm not going to make any predictions on who is going to win it but Cal Lu is definitely rooting for Centenary right now in the SCAC title game as they do not want anyone else to fall into Pool C (in case they fail to win the SCIAC bid), especially a team that is as close to Tyler as Centenary is.

My biggest disappointment is definitely Oxy, a team that was left at home after 30+ wins last season.  I'm not really sure what happened to them but they fell apart down the stretch.  It seems like they had some injuries to some key guys as DeRaad missed a few games late and Martel(who was very good as a Freshman) didn't have a good year at all while starting 7 games and carrying a 6 ERA.  I think Oxy loses a lot of their core team but they seem to have some solid talent.

Cal Lu winning it's 5th title in a row is pretty impressive after losing what they lost from 2016.  It looks like they have some pretty solid Freshman pitchers and a lot of talent getting innings this year.

I am excited to see how the Tourney goes and look forward to seeing whoever represents the SCIAC in Tyler.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 30, 2017, 04:36:01 PM
JP,

Good recap and award predictions.
I can't disagree with any of your thoughts!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 01, 2017, 06:04:59 PM
Nice to see Whittier show some pride, go toe to toe with ULV and not make it easy on them.  It's not like La Verne saved their pitching and conceded the series.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 02, 2017, 03:56:54 PM
I find it difficult to make a lead pipe lock on who emerges from the SCIAC 4 team dance...Pitching - make that Pitching Depth - seems down this year in the SCIAC, I think that leaves things wide open.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 02, 2017, 08:22:10 PM
One key point...Which schools have finals during this week?  Minimizing distractions during playoffs is a factor.

I believe Redlands is done...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on May 03, 2017, 09:36:29 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on May 02, 2017, 08:22:10 PM
One key point...Which schools have finals during this week?  Minimizing distractions during playoffs is a factor.

I believe Redlands is done...

I remember a team in the SCIAC a few yeara back every year took many of their finals away from school. Dugouts, Hotel lobbies, and via computer online. This team did this for many years in a row with several student athletes never being at the school for finals during their career
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 07, 2017, 10:02:22 AM
SCIAC tourney wraps up today with Redlands needing to beat Cal Lu twice to get the auto-bid. Good games on a Friday and 2 great games followed by a wild one late yesterday afternoon. La Verne played OK but they just didn't have a lot of options after using their #1 and #2 on the mound Friday. Chapman ran out of pitching while getting smoked by Redlands and Redlands goes into today with their #4 on the mound. I expect Cal Lu to take game 1 today. It also feel like they are in a good position to get a Pool C if it comes to that.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on May 07, 2017, 04:57:17 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 07, 2017, 10:02:22 AM
SCIAC tourney wraps up today with Redlands needing to beat Cal Lu twice to get the auto-bid. Good games on a Friday and 2 great games followed by a wild one late yesterday afternoon. La Verne played OK but they just didn't have a lot of options after using their #1 and #2 on the mound Friday. Chapman ran out of pitching while getting smoked by Redlands and Redlands goes into today with their #4 on the mound. I expect Cal Lu to take game 1 today. It also feel like they are in a good position to get a Pool C if it comes to that.
Cal Lu wins the SCIAC conference Championship and moves on with the Pool A bid for the SCIAC

SCIAC CHAMPIONSHIPS (13)
1992, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017

NCAA WEST REGIONALS APPEARANCES (15)
1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2009, 2013, 2014, 2016,2017
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 07, 2017, 04:57:47 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 07, 2017, 10:02:22 AM
SCIAC tourney wraps up today with Redlands needing to beat Cal Lu twice to get the auto-bid. Good games on a Friday and 2 great games followed by a wild one late yesterday afternoon. La Verne played OK but they just didn't have a lot of options after using their #1 and #2 on the mound Friday. Chapman ran out of pitching while getting smoked by Redlands and Redlands goes into today with their #4 on the mound. I expect Cal Lu to take game 1 today. It also feel like they are in a good position to get a Pool C if it comes to that.

A very well played Game 1.   CLU scraped a couple runs in 2nd and 6th, then Redlands tied it up with 2 in the 8th.   Redlands brought in F. Minjarez.  Felix started inning with a walk and CLU was able to advance runner and eventually score to go ahead 3-2.   CLU ends up winning and advancing to Regionals!   

If I remember correctly, this is 4th time in last 4 years for CLU!   Congratulations and make SCIAC proud by doing well in Regionals and Beyond!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on May 07, 2017, 07:53:13 PM
It looks like another year Chapman will not get a regional bid. 2011 was last year it got a bid.  :'( :'(
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on May 07, 2017, 08:14:36 PM
After posting Fake News here recently...
I'm not reluctant at all to keep going.
Purple Heys, I believe LINFIELD had always been over with the semester come this time of year. The team just carries on with little distraction.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 08, 2017, 01:16:25 PM
Quote from: SoCalBaseballfan on May 07, 2017, 07:53:13 PM
It looks like another year Chapman will not get a regional bid. 2011 was last year it got a bid.  :'( :'(

As long as CTX did well, it spelled trouble for Chapman's bid chances.  Look to see CTX maintain their spot in the regional rankings.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 11, 2017, 01:10:19 PM
SCIAC Baseball 2017 All -Conference

Congratulations to the honorees.

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2016-17/releases/2017_BSB_all_conference (http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2016-17/releases/2017_BSB_all_conference)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 21, 2017, 08:29:36 PM
It has been 18 years since the SCIAC went to the D3 CWS but they are finally headed back.  Unreal regional by Cal Lu.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on May 21, 2017, 08:37:10 PM
Figured I'd put this here too....
Through Sunday, 5/21
Congratulations to Cal Lutheran!
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Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 21, 2017, 08:38:11 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 21, 2017, 08:29:36 PM
It has been 18 years since the SCIAC went to the D3 CWS but they are finally headed back.  Unreal regional by Cal Lu.
JP, thanks for the updates during Regional!   Very nice to see CLU and Coach Slim break through and head to D3 CWS!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on May 23, 2017, 11:55:42 AM
Well, I can't help but root for the solutes from here on out.
West Coast!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on May 23, 2017, 03:33:31 PM
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Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 25, 2017, 02:44:10 PM
Congratulations to all the SCIAC All-West Region honorees.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on May 26, 2017, 04:26:55 PM
Question from a noob:  how do SCIAC baseball teams travel to local games?

Thanks.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 26, 2017, 05:14:42 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on May 26, 2017, 04:26:55 PM
Question from a noob:  how do SCIAC baseball teams travel to local games?

Thanks.

My son's team usually did charter Bus.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 26, 2017, 05:45:31 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on May 26, 2017, 04:26:55 PM
Question from a noob:  how do SCIAC baseball teams travel to local games?

Thanks.
Welcome to the message boards, MIFDad.

I hope that you  enjoy your times here.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 27, 2017, 12:14:41 AM
For SCIAC followers,

Marshall Pautsch of CLU had another great outing.  He went 8+ strong innings with 10k and left with a 4-1 lead.  Miguel Salud came in, Wheaton MA loaded the bases, scoring another run before Salud struck out batter for last out.

Congrats CLU on winning their first game.

Next game Sat at 5:45 Pac time bs North Central (IL)

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 27, 2017, 12:16:55 AM
Nice start to the series for Cal Lu!

Go West Region.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 27, 2017, 12:36:41 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 27, 2017, 12:16:55 AM
Nice start to the series for Cal Lu!

Go West Region.

Other than the short rest 5 inning Regional final game, this was Marshall Pautsch third straight start with 8+ innings and 10 or more K's. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on May 27, 2017, 12:38:34 AM
Nothing against West Region, but go CCIW - i.e., North Central. ;D

I have intense links to IWU, strong ties to my conference (CCIW), and only marginal links to my region (Central).
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 28, 2017, 12:07:46 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 27, 2017, 12:38:34 AM
Nothing against West Region, but go CCIW - i.e., North Central. ;D

I have intense links to IWU, strong ties to my conference (CCIW), and only marginal links to my region (Central).

Congrats CLU on your win tonight!  14-5!   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on May 28, 2017, 12:25:02 AM
My congrats also to Cal Lu - they were clearly the better team today.  Tomorrow NCC gets a rematch against Mass-Boston, then (hopefully) another shot at the Kingsmen.

BTW, I'm a Tigers fan, and my all-time favorite manager (with the possible exception of Casey Stengel) is Sparky Anderson.  Is he a Cal Lu alum?  (With his being in the triumvirate of language-manglers [with Casey and Yogi], I never figured him for a college grad!  Or is there a more monetary reason for the naming of your field?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on May 28, 2017, 12:54:44 AM
Through Saturday, 5/27
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Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 28, 2017, 01:02:43 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 28, 2017, 12:25:02 AM
My congrats also to Cal Lu - they were clearly the better team today.  Tomorrow NCC gets a rematch against Mass-Boston, then (hopefully) another shot at the Kingsmen.

BTW, I'm a Tigers fan, and my all-time favorite manager (with the possible exception of Casey Stengel) is Sparky Anderson.  Is he a Cal Lu alum?  (With his being in the triumvirate of language-manglers [with Casey and Yogi], I never figured him for a college grad!  Or is there a more monetary reason for the naming of your field?

As a Thousand Oaks, CA resident, Sparky was a long time supporter of CLU baseball.  He passed in 2010 in Thousand Oaks, where CLU is located.  CLU catchers have also enjoyed the support of Pete Daley, catcher of Red Sox for 1955-59.  He was a regular presence at practices and games.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 28, 2017, 02:46:45 PM
I used to see Sparky around town when i lived there.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on May 29, 2017, 01:51:36 AM
Congrats to Cal Lutheran!

Through Sunday, 5/28
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Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 29, 2017, 11:36:21 AM
Cal Lutheran played their third game with their third set of uniforms.  Yesterday, they had their Sunday unis with a patch to honor Sparky Anderson.  A patch that will never be removed according to coach Slimak.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 30, 2017, 02:55:02 PM
They win the first game today 12-4.

Only one to go for a Kingsmen / SCIAC victory.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 30, 2017, 03:40:06 PM
Pulling for CLU to grit this 3rd game out and bring home the D3 Title.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on May 30, 2017, 05:37:03 PM
What Pacific time is the 3rd game?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 30, 2017, 05:42:02 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on May 30, 2017, 05:37:03 PM
What Pacific time is the 3rd game?

Right now it is the top of the 8th CLU leads 4-2.  They are home team.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on May 30, 2017, 06:06:13 PM
thx
trying to find it on ncaa site.....

and thanks to d3baseball.com I saw the last inning.

Congratulations to the solutes on a long, satisfying season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 30, 2017, 06:19:16 PM
Well they did it!  Congratulations to Cal Lutheran on winning the D3 Championship!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 30, 2017, 06:22:54 PM
Congrats!  That was incredible!

Three starting pitchers and a shut-down workhorse (indefatigable) reliever.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 30, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 30, 2017, 06:22:54 PM
Congrats!  That was incredible!

Three starting pitchers and a shut-down workhorse (indefatigable) reliever.

Congratulations to CLU!   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on May 30, 2017, 06:59:03 PM
CONGRATULATIONS CAL LUTHERAN!
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Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on May 30, 2017, 07:33:38 PM
Congrats CLU - great job keeping the D3 championship in the West Region!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 30, 2017, 08:09:28 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on May 30, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 30, 2017, 06:22:54 PM
Congrats!  That was incredible!

Three starting pitchers and a shut-down workhorse (indefatigable) reliever.

Congratulations to CLU!   

First SCIAC champion since 1995, when La Verne won it.
(I believe Chapman title was before they joined SCIAC)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 30, 2017, 08:30:14 PM
Congrats to the Kingsmen! Well done!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 31, 2017, 12:20:42 AM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on May 30, 2017, 08:09:28 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on May 30, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 30, 2017, 06:22:54 PM
Congrats!  That was incredible!

Three starting pitchers and a shut-down workhorse (indefatigable) reliever.

Congratulations to CLU!   
Yes Chapman was independent when they won.

My first and last D-III World Series was won by SCIAC teams.
First SCIAC champion since 1995, when La Verne won it.
(I believe Chapman title was before they joined SCIAC)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 31, 2017, 08:08:56 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on May 30, 2017, 06:06:13 PM
thx
trying to find it on ncaa site.....

Poor choices there. The NCAA site had the bracket wrong all sorts of times but we always have you covered.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 31, 2017, 11:29:01 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 31, 2017, 08:08:56 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on May 30, 2017, 06:06:13 PM
thx
trying to find it on ncaa site.....

Poor choices there. The NCAA site had the bracket wrong all sorts of times but we always have you covered.

I followed all the coverage via the D3baseball.com site...sometimes it loaded a bit slowly(probably California traffic  :D ) but otherwise it was easy to navigate and follow the entire tournament.  Great job Pat and team.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 31, 2017, 12:03:02 PM
I connected from the SCIAC site.  Amazing that they had it.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on May 31, 2017, 02:25:35 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on May 31, 2017, 11:29:01 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 31, 2017, 08:08:56 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on May 30, 2017, 06:06:13 PM
thx
trying to find it on ncaa site.....

Poor choices there. The NCAA site had the bracket wrong all sorts of times but we always have you covered.

I followed all the coverage via the D3baseball.com site...sometimes it loaded a bit slowly(probably California traffic  :D ) but otherwise it was easy to navigate and follow the entire tournament.  Great job Pat and team.

Purple Haze, I concur!   I followed all the games via D3baseball.com site; both via laptop at work and for the CLU games, via Iphone in traffic and at home.   I followed by LiveStats of Non-CLU games and video of the CLU games.    I appreciated being able to follow live and not have to wait for the box score!    Great job Pat, Jim D and team!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 31, 2017, 02:38:17 PM
After avoiding the boards throughout the series I will say my piece regarding what just happened.  I got to spend a few days in Tyler and a few days in Appleton watching Cal Lu and it just comes down to a team getting scorching hot at the right time.  The team that was just crowned National Champs was probably not in the top 10 of most talented Cal Lu teams (not a shot at them) but they were able to accomplish what other teams came close to doing, but never got it done.  These guys 100% played for each other and the chemistry was evident throughout the entire post-season.  The way the players stayed calm throughout any type of adversity was something that has not been the norm in the past.

I could go on and on about the whole deal but it is so good to finally see Cal Lu win it all.  Also, the WS in Appleton was just a great experience all around.  Cedar Rapids has a very tough act to follow.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wildcat11 on May 31, 2017, 02:49:06 PM
Congrats to CLU for getting and done not only for themselves but for the entire SCIAC.  That is a good deal on multiple levels.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 31, 2017, 05:24:42 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on May 31, 2017, 12:03:02 PM
I connected from the SCIAC site.  Amazing that they had it.

Shouldn't be amazing -- D3baseball/SCIAC/Cal Lutheran are all on the Presto network, so when any of us add links, they appear across the sites.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 31, 2017, 06:20:09 PM
Pat,
I wondered how they were able to keep  up over the holiday.  Now I know.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 31, 2017, 10:49:55 PM
I had one last piece in my notebook I was unable to finish until today:
http://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/2017/kay-overcomes-physical-mental-barriers
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on June 01, 2017, 02:40:31 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 31, 2017, 10:49:55 PM
I had one last piece in my notebook I was unable to finish until today:
http://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/2017/kay-overcomes-physical-mental-barriers
I think it is interesting that he is considering the run they just had and is contemplating "retirement" because its unlikely to be improved upon.

With respect to the kid coming back for a 5th year...that's not a small consideration when one considers the yearly cost at a D3 private colleges with no athletic scholarship - if he's already earned his degree then that's effectively paying the bill just to play baseball.  Not saying maybe grad school isn't part of his plan, maybe it is and it works to his plan.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on June 01, 2017, 02:46:13 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 31, 2017, 02:38:17 PM
Also, the WS in Appleton was just a great experience all around.  Cedar Rapids has a very tough act to follow.

Having spent many a long weekend in the area when my older son played at Cornell College, I can see the Iwegians rolling out the red carpet and doing it up quite well.  Those are some of the nicest folks you'll ever want to meet...even the Kohawk fans.  They have experience holding D3 National Championship events for Wrestling.  Plus the Eastern Iowa Airport is a nice, easy fly-in.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on June 01, 2017, 06:25:17 PM
One thing that stuck out for me was all the people disguised as empty seats for the championship game - for that matter, most games I saw.

Maybe the local Cedar Rapids community will take a greater interest...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on June 01, 2017, 07:34:27 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on June 01, 2017, 06:25:17 PM
One thing that stuck out for me was all the people disguised as empty seats for the championship game - for that matter, most games I saw.

Maybe the local Cedar Rapids community will take a greater interest...

The announced attendance was 22,556 and is the seventh largest attendance in the 18 years at Appleton.  It is less than each of the last previous five World Series.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on June 01, 2017, 08:40:06 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on June 01, 2017, 07:34:27 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on June 01, 2017, 06:25:17 PM
One thing that stuck out for me was all the people disguised as empty seats for the championship game - for that matter, most games I saw.

Maybe the local Cedar Rapids community will take a greater interest...

The announced attendance was 22,556 and is the seventh largest attendance in the 18 years at Appleton.  It is less than each of the last previous five World Series.

Is that a cumulative count for the tournament or a game day count?

https://preview.d3photography.com/g/6563 (https://preview.d3photography.com/g/6563)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on June 01, 2017, 11:06:55 PM
The first 2 days seemed to have pretty good crowds, especially with Concordia and North Central being so close.  There were pretty good crowds at the night games as a lot of locals brought their kids out.  One local even hit my rental car in the parking lot and made sure to get stadium security to contact me so I wouldn't be responsible.  I was pleasantly surprised by that for sure.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on June 02, 2017, 12:38:55 AM
When we went the crowds were great over the weekends and then tapered off during the week.  Week day games in the middle of the day would have limited attendance (as you would expect). The people in in Appleton were great, families came out and kids adopted teams and came to watch those teams consistently.

Appleton has really set a high bar for Cedar Rapids.  This was the first time in awhile there were not any WI teams so you would expect a drop off from this alone.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on June 02, 2017, 02:27:57 PM
Well it's not like the D2 or NAIA games are any much better attended based on what friends of mine that have had kids get there have to report.

It is a difficult thing after all...not like you can book tickets early if you are travelling by air.  Proximity of the teams competing drives the attendance.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on June 02, 2017, 02:38:38 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on June 02, 2017, 02:27:57 PM
Well it's not like the D2 or NAIA games are any much better attended based on what friends of mine that have had kids get there have to report.

It is a difficult thing after all...not like you can book tickets early if you are travelling by air.  Proximity of the teams competing drives the attendance.

The D2 games this year have been poorly attended.  There were 321 people yesterday at the UCSD/St Thomas Aquinas game out in Grand Prairie.  The D2 WS got good crowds in Cary but not so much this year. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on June 02, 2017, 06:13:12 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on June 02, 2017, 02:38:38 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on June 02, 2017, 02:27:57 PM
Well it's not like the D2 or NAIA games are any much better attended based on what friends of mine that have had kids get there have to report.

It is a difficult thing after all...not like you can book tickets early if you are travelling by air.  Proximity of the teams competing drives the attendance.

The D2 games this year have been poorly attended.  There were 321 people yesterday at the UCSD/St Thomas Aquinas game out in Grand Prairie.  The D2 WS got good crowds in Cary but not so much this year.

UCSD would be hard pressed to get that sort of attendance at home...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on June 02, 2017, 06:16:36 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on June 02, 2017, 06:13:12 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on June 02, 2017, 02:38:38 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on June 02, 2017, 02:27:57 PM
Well it's not like the D2 or NAIA games are any much better attended based on what friends of mine that have had kids get there have to report.

It is a difficult thing after all...not like you can book tickets early if you are travelling by air.  Proximity of the teams competing drives the attendance.

The D2 games this year have been poorly attended.  There were 321 people yesterday at the UCSD/St Thomas Aquinas game out in Grand Prairie.  The D2 WS got good crowds in Cary but not so much this year.
UCSD would be hard pressed to get that sort of attendance at home...
I went to a CCAA Tournament game a few years back at UCSD and there weren't 300 folks in the stands for that.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on June 03, 2017, 10:23:40 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on June 01, 2017, 08:40:06 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on June 01, 2017, 07:34:27 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on June 01, 2017, 06:25:17 PM
One thing that stuck out for me was all the people disguised as empty seats for the championship game - for that matter, most games I saw.

Maybe the local Cedar Rapids community will take a greater interest...

The announced attendance was 22,556 and is the seventh largest attendance in the 18 years at Appleton.  It is less than each of the last previous five World Series.

Is that a cumulative count for the tournament or a game day count?

https://preview.d3photography.com/g/6563 (https://preview.d3photography.com/g/6563)

Cumulative count
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on June 13, 2017, 06:08:07 PM
Congratulations to Tanner Nishioka! The SCIAC Player of the Year, West Region Player of the Year, First-Team All-American, First-Team Academic All-American, and loser of the 2017 Pomona-Pitzer alumni baseball game was just selected by the Boston Red Sox in the 9th Round, 281st pick.

Tanner is the third Sagehen since 2009 to be drafted by the Red Sox, and sixth (IIRC) Sagehen drafted since 2003.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on June 13, 2017, 06:51:32 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on June 13, 2017, 06:08:07 PM
Congratulations to Tanner Nishioka! The SCIAC Player of the Year, West Region Player of the Year, First-Team All-American, First-Team Academic All-American, and loser of the 2017 Pomona-Pitzer alumni baseball game was just selected by the Boston Red Sox in the 9th Round, 281st pick.

Tanner is the third Sagehen since 2009 to be drafted by the Red Sox, and sixth (IIRC) Sagehen drafted since 2003.

That is great news!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on June 13, 2017, 08:14:07 PM
Really cool.  And that MIT kid went in round 8.  I told my kid the dream of being drafted isn't over just because he's going D3 not D1.

... only 1/8 serious on that but still, very cool, and why not have a goal when you're playing?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on June 23, 2017, 03:56:10 PM
Anybody got a link or basic info on SCIAC rules for fall baseball?

Thanks.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on June 30, 2017, 03:22:07 PM
MIFdad,

There are no SCIAC rules that I know of, just NCAA rules. (you can look them up if you do some searching, I don't remember exactly where they are). Each program is run different but they all revolve around coaching contact hours. Programs get around these by having "captains practices" run by Sr's and coaches will usually watch from a distance. Some teams start early and end early but most give kids a few weeks to adapt and then start a lifting program, then captains practices, then formal practices with coaches and the they usually end with a "world series" of some type.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on July 03, 2017, 08:59:04 PM
They have Captain's practices in the NESCAC.  I know a captain.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on July 04, 2017, 04:15:35 PM
I was thinking that I had heard of "official" fall practices from friends with sons playing in other conferences, so I was thinking that SCIAC rules were more restrictive, but I must have been thinking of what a d1 or JC baseball parent had told me.

Thanks.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Appalachian Mtns on July 04, 2017, 10:36:20 PM
FYI - Post from Let's Play Two in Oct 2015 in the SCIAC Fall Ball thread.  As a newbie parent then, I learned that the "official" SCIAC Fall Ball season does not last that long since the SCIAC teams start playing spring games at end of January or beginning of Feb, thus allowing, at most, a few weeks for official SCIAC fall ball, depending when practices begin after the new year.

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"The SCIAC's rules regarding the non-traditional season are much more restrictive than those permitted by the NCAA.  Practice time, with coaches on the field, is limited to 6 hours per week and no more than 2 hours per day.  The NCAA has established a 19-week season for baseball, so counting back from the SCIAC Championship will determine how many weeks can be used in the fall.  Some schools have January Interim courses (Whittier and La Verne ??) allowing them to start as early as January 4th in 2016, but by doing so, they would only have one week in the fall.  As mentioned in a previous post, "Captain's practices" and conditioning are going on, but without the supervision of a coach on the field.  Not ideal by any stretch of the imagination, but it is their conference rule.  Hope this provides a little light on the subject!"
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on July 18, 2017, 11:16:55 PM
I was recently made privy to an email from a coach saying that SCIAC modifications to NCAA D3 baseball rules have been removed as of this season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on August 31, 2017, 01:13:37 PM
Long awaited (needed) upgrades to the Whittier baseball facilities are underway!

http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2017-18/releases/20170831ip99ss (http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2017-18/releases/20170831ip99ss)

Good stuff!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on September 02, 2017, 07:22:52 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on August 31, 2017, 01:13:37 PM
Long awaited (needed) upgrades to the Whittier baseball facilities are underway!

http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2017-18/releases/20170831ip99ss (http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2017-18/releases/20170831ip99ss)

Good stuff!

Nice to see WC making a little bit of a commitment to athletics.  I see the football field and track are new and they have a good number of players in camp for football.  The really needed this for baseball as that is probably the least enjoyable places to watch a game in the SCIAC.  Adding some new stands will  give it a better feel for the fans at the games.

Since absolutely nobody asked, I will give my thoughts on the SCIAC ballparks (in no particular order)

Redlands- the grounds crew does an absolutely fantastic job on the playing surface but the rest of the facility is very average.  Driving out to the desert and dealing with the gross air sucks too.

La Verne- They tore down their on-campus field and that makes them pretty low in my book.  Their new spot looks ok but has zero character.

Oxy- This place is awful all around.  This has to be one of the smallest parks in all of college baseball.  Terrible seating for fans and the dugouts are tiny.  I would like to see Oxy make the fences a lot higher than they are (or move them back) simply because a college baseball team should not play on a field that small.

Cal Lu- probably the second best playing surface and by far the best seating for fans.  The new National Champs banner will sure look nice as well.

Whittier- See above

Caltech- Having turf is nice since there is no maintenance but the rest is pretty average.

Claremont- I love the trees that line the outfield but the seating is bad.  The dugouts are pretty good and there is a lot of space all over.  Decent park.

Chapman- I HATE that they use a city park.  I realize there is no place for them to play on campus but the atmosphere stinks.  Playing a regional there wasn't very fun.

Pomona- Really small to right field but I like this park.  The stands are very close to the field and I think the grounds crew does a pretty good job.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on September 11, 2017, 08:34:30 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on September 02, 2017, 07:22:52 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on August 31, 2017, 01:13:37 PM
Long awaited (needed) upgrades to the Whittier baseball facilities are underway!

http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2017-18/releases/20170831ip99ss (http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2017-18/releases/20170831ip99ss)

Good stuff!

Nice to see WC making a little bit of a commitment to athletics.  I see the football field and track are new and they have a good number of players in camp for football.  The really needed this for baseball as that is probably the least enjoyable places to watch a game in the SCIAC.  Adding some new stands will  give it a better feel for the fans at the games.

Since absolutely nobody asked, I will give my thoughts on the SCIAC ballparks (in no particular order)

Redlands- the grounds crew does an absolutely fantastic job on the playing surface but the rest of the facility is very average.  Driving out to the desert and dealing with the gross air sucks too.

La Verne- They tore down their on-campus field and that makes them pretty low in my book.  Their new spot looks ok but has zero character.

Oxy- This place is awful all around.  This has to be one of the smallest parks in all of college baseball.  Terrible seating for fans and the dugouts are tiny.  I would like to see Oxy make the fences a lot higher than they are (or move them back) simply because a college baseball team should not play on a field that small.

Cal Lu- probably the second best playing surface and by far the best seating for fans.  The new National Champs banner will sure look nice as well.

Whittier- See above

Caltech- Having turf is nice since there is no maintenance but the rest is pretty average.

Claremont- I love the trees that line the outfield but the seating is bad.  The dugouts are pretty good and there is a lot of space all over.  Decent park.

Chapman- I HATE that they use a city park.  I realize there is no place for them to play on campus but the atmosphere stinks.  Playing a regional there wasn't very fun.
  I agree. I was there. I loved the regional in Abilene and the one without rain in McMinnville. Chapman shares field with high school. City has control of the field and allows no real upgrades from Chapman or Orange Lutheran who share the field and both have the money to make this a premier venue

Pomona- Really small to right field but I like this park.  The stands are very close to the field and I think the grounds crew does a pretty good job.
Best place in the SCIAC is Cal Lutheran in my opinion watching games their for 5 consecutive years. My son got his 1st start as Freshman at the field and his first career hit so always a special place for me. He did not go to Cal Lu...Add lights and it is the best place in the SCIAC if they ever get to host a regional. With their recent national championship, I think they should get a shot. Agree with the assessments from above. Most SCIAC fields are terrible with bad seating arrangements. A few exceptions for the fields but the exception and not the rule. Whittier looks like it is upgrading. La Verne has a newer field as Cal Tech but none will be at a level to attract a regional.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on September 12, 2017, 11:22:36 AM
Whittier having just completed the football field and track upgrades, and moving onto upgrading the seating for the Baseball field, along with a very nice Athletic Center with great competition pool is making an effort to support their statements that they care about the athletic experience at the school.  They may not have the same approach as at the more powerful D3 athletic programs, but making an effort, in my mind, is good to see.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on September 12, 2017, 11:55:03 AM
For me, as a fan, the overall best baseball park is an easy pick:  CLU.  Great seats, great sight lines, MPH display on the scoreboard, good parking, easy dropoff/short walk for the grandparents next to the ballpark (an underrated parameter IMHO).
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on September 12, 2017, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on September 12, 2017, 11:55:03 AM
For me, as a fan, the overall best baseball park is an easy pick:  CLU.  Great seats, great sight lines, MPH display on the scoreboard, good parking, easy dropoff/short walk for the grandparents next to the ballpark (an underrated parameter IMHO).

In last place is Oxy's field. Field too small for College Level baseball, backstop too close to home plate, thick links in the fence hinders viewing.  This is a Pony League field.  Porta potties, nuff said.

In between, all the rest have their good point and not so good points.

Like like how nice UoR keeps the field, not a fan of the grass 1B and 3B running lanes (I think that's lazy), don't like the outfield berm in Center to Right (it's unnecessary).  Like the sight lines from the stands, good drop off point for the old folks, but too long a walk to take a tinkle.  I hear the scoreboard is getting upgraded, that will be nice.  The field plays honest (very few bad hops), deep backstop puts an emphasis on catching which I think is appropriate at this level.

La Verne...I like the place, I just wish they'd water the grass.  It may be sort of geometrically bland, but its a good sort of bland in a well maintained sort of way (just water the lawn once in a while).  The fact that it is not on campus makes no difference to me as we are always visitors.  Nice deep backstop.  Good drop off for the folks.

Whittier (Before Stands upgrade).  I like that they acknowledge the shortness of some outfield sections by raising the fences to a challenging height, makes the field play bigger.  I like the angled fencing.  Too short behind home plate.  Not great on the sight lines due to the protruding dugouts relative to the stands.  Good in-game entertainment watching Freshman players play mountain goat retrieving foul balls.  Bathrooms are close.

Chapman.  City Park field so at least it is pretty well kept, but really no identity to the school like a dedicated use field would have. Bathrooms way too far away.

CMC, two seasons ago the field was mangy as they refused to water it (don't claim drought that's BS, other schools maintain their fields).   This past season was much better given the rain.  Another Porta Potty place.  I like the shade the trees bring.  The outfield tree line is a nice thing, but this park could be better kept without a whole lot of extra effort and it would shine.

PP...I alternate like/dislike for the short porch in right and the meadow in left.  I like the stands there, good sight lines.  A nice place to watch D3 baseball.  A bit of an uphill slog for the old folks and a long walk to the bathrooms

Cal Tech putting in turf absolved them of having to work the field and avoid competing with CMC for the worst kept field - an expediency choice most likely, but it works out...much like everything else with respect to the stands and the fence locations.  Not such great access for the old folks but not the worst either.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on September 12, 2017, 04:41:01 PM
Where's the good places to get a post game micro-brew in the SCIAC cities (or reasonably nearby)?  Could be more than one...place that is.

I'll start:

Redlands:  Hangar 24

PP/CMS:  Last Name Brewing

La Verne:

Pasadena:

Whittier:

Chapman:

Thousand Oaks:

Eagle Rock:
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalBaseballfan on September 17, 2017, 01:34:02 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on September 12, 2017, 04:41:01 PM
Where's the good places to get a post game micro-brew in the SCIAC cities (or reasonably nearby)?  Could be more than one...place that is.

I'll start:

Redlands:  Hangar 24

PP/CMS:  Last Name Brewing

La Verne:

Pasadena:

Whittier:

Chapman: Haven Gastropub in Orange, CA


Thousand Oaks:

Eagle Rock:
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on September 21, 2017, 11:36:15 AM
RE PP/ CMS, Last Name doesn't have a kitchen, just a part time food truck. Ditto for Claremont, Craft Ales, which I hear is excellent. If you're hungry try Eureka for great tacos, burgers and outdoor seating.  Back Abbey is also very good.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on September 22, 2017, 10:44:17 AM
All this talk makes me want to make a trip south in February.

Quote from: MIFDad on September 21, 2017, 11:36:15 AM
RE PP/ CMS, Last Name doesn't have a kitchen, just a part time food truck. Ditto for Claremont, Craft Ales, which I hear is excellent. If you're hungry try Eureka for great tacos, burgers and outdoor seating.  Back Abbey is also very good.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on September 22, 2017, 01:04:56 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on September 12, 2017, 04:41:01 PM
Where's the good places to get a post game micro-brew in the SCIAC cities (or reasonably nearby)?  Could be more than one...place that is.

I'll start:

Redlands:  Hangar 24

PP/CMS:  Last Name Brewing

La Verne:

Pasadena:

Whittier:

Chapman:

Thousand Oaks:

Eagle Rock:

Here are a few in Thousand Oaks, home of the 2017 National Champions (I just love the sound of that).

http://draughtsrestaurant.com

This used to be called Stuff Pizza and it was definitely a favorite of mine.  Great food and plenty of beers.

http://thedudesbrew.com/thousand-oaks

Never been here but you can't accuse them of having a terrible name.

Of course, if you are looking for simple wings and beer, you can always hit up the Hooters in Thousand Oaks.  Hooters occupies a building that was a constant rotating door to unsuccessful restaurants over the years.  There were a lot of people that were unhappy with Hooters going in but it's been there longer than any other restaurant that was there before.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on September 25, 2017, 07:59:14 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on September 12, 2017, 04:41:01 PM
Where's the good places to get a post game micro-brew in the SCIAC cities (or reasonably nearby)?  Could be more than one...place that is.

I'll start:

Redlands:  Hangar 24

PP/CMS:  Last Name Brewing, Craft Ales, Back Abbey

La Verne:

Pasadena:

Whittier:  The Bottle Room, Red Oak BBQ

Chapman:

Thousand Oaks: Draughts Restaurant and Bar, The Dude's Brewing Company

Eagle Rock:
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on September 25, 2017, 08:04:42 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on September 25, 2017, 07:59:14 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on September 12, 2017, 04:41:01 PM
Where's the good places to get a post game micro-brew in the SCIAC cities (or reasonably nearby)?  Could be more than one...place that is.

I'll start:

Redlands:  Hangar 24

PP/CMS:  Last Name Brewing, Craft Ales, Back Abbey

La Verne:

Pasadena:

Whittier:  The Bottle Room, Red Oak BBQ

Chapman:  Chapman Crafted Beer

Thousand Oaks: Draughts Restaurant and Bar, The Dude's Brewing Company

Eagle Rock:
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on September 26, 2017, 05:07:49 PM
Whittier's latest recruit is a true inspiration.   :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=r4DsSls6FXE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=r4DsSls6FXE)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on September 26, 2017, 11:04:59 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on September 26, 2017, 05:07:49 PM
Whittier's latest recruit is a true inspiration.   :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=r4DsSls6FXE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=r4DsSls6FXE)

Love seeing programs do this.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on September 27, 2017, 11:17:22 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on September 26, 2017, 11:04:59 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on September 26, 2017, 05:07:49 PM
Whittier's latest recruit is a true inspiration.   :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=r4DsSls6FXE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=r4DsSls6FXE)

Love seeing programs do this.

I think this is being done throughout the SCIAC this season...so far Chapman and Oxy are also in (or have been in) for baseball.

http://www.goteamimpact.org/athletic-campus-involvement/southern-california-intercollegiate-athletic-conference.html (http://www.goteamimpact.org/athletic-campus-involvement/southern-california-intercollegiate-athletic-conference.html)

The look on Joshua's face is priceless...I know this has an impact on my kid too.  Everybody wins.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on October 23, 2017, 05:49:02 PM
Picture of the Cal Lu rings they received yesterday.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on October 23, 2017, 08:16:40 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on October 23, 2017, 05:49:02 PM
Picture of the Cal Lu rings they received yesterday.

I wondered if they were going to have the U
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on October 23, 2017, 10:05:00 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on October 23, 2017, 08:16:40 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on October 23, 2017, 05:49:02 PM
Picture of the Cal Lu rings they received yesterday.

I wondered if they were going to have the U

It would have been an absolute travesty if they would have put that terrible looking shield on it.  I like this look and they even put the old baseball logo on the side with the trophy on the other side.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on October 24, 2017, 11:39:39 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on October 23, 2017, 10:05:00 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on October 23, 2017, 08:16:40 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on October 23, 2017, 05:49:02 PM
Picture of the Cal Lu rings they received yesterday.

I wondered if they were going to have the U

It would have been an absolute travesty if they would have put that terrible looking shield on it.  I like this look and they even put the old baseball logo on the side with the trophy on the other side.

Championship rings are the best.  Those are very nice rings.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on October 28, 2017, 12:04:11 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on October 23, 2017, 05:49:02 PM
Picture of the Cal Lu rings they received yesterday.

NICE
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on November 13, 2017, 01:52:19 PM
Got bored the other day and figured I would look at the non-conference schedules of the SCIAC schools for the 2018 season.  It seems like the SCIAC schools like to keep their schedules a mystery until the semester is over but this is what I was able to find so far. I didn't look at the East Coast teams to see who they were playing on their trips so there are a lot of games missing.  Some pretty good games to be played this spring.

Caltech
Oxy (exhibition)
Providence Christian x3
Dickinson x2
Vassar x1
Middlebury x1
@ Chicago x3

Cal Lu
Linfield x3
PLU x3
Centenary (LA) x1

Chapman
George Fox x1
Linfield x1
Centenary (LA) x1

Claremont
Puget Sound x2
Whitman
Willammette

La Verne
Linfield x3

OXY
@ Caltech (exhibition)
Linfield x1
Bates x1
Ursinus x1
Rutgers-Newark x1
Centenary (LA) x1
Vassar x2
Endicott x1
Dickinson x1
Ithaca x1
@ PLU x1 (played at George Fox)
@ George Fox x1
@ Pacific x3

Pomona
Puget Sound x1
Whitman x2
Willamette x1

Redlands
Centenary (LA) x2

Whittier
Whitman x1
Willamette x2
Lewis & Clark x1
Bates x1
Castleton x1
Ursinus x1
Rutgers-Newark x2
Vassar x1
Williams x1
Middlebury x1
George Fox x3
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on November 14, 2017, 12:30:21 PM
I really like Whittier's NC slate.  It's a good set up for them and what they need.  It would be overly ambitious for them to try to schedule an NC schedule loaded with in region contenders in hopes of chasing an at-large bid.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on November 14, 2017, 05:20:18 PM
Looks like everybody is playing the same group of NWC teams, some NESCAC teams, and a few kinda random others. What do you like about what you see?  Are the NC teams here tougher than usual?  I'm a newby to following SCIAC baseball but if I'm not mistaken this looks similar to last year, and I've seen some discussion in the past about the NC strength of schedule not being sufficient for  teams other than the league champion to move into NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on November 15, 2017, 11:03:04 AM
I wonder if Cal Lu winning it all last year affords halo effect into next year such that IF the SCIAC  Conference Tourney #1 seed loses - say in the championship finals of the conference tourney - would they get an enhanced look as an at-large entry.

Personally, speaking as a Whittier fan, I like their schedule.  It's got some teams we have not seen before, and a couple we have where the games were competitive last year.  I think the conference is opened up a bit due to graduation, so we will see how well teams recruit.

Some questions...
How well does Cal Lu reload - they seemingly were hardest hit by graduation.
What's life going to be like without Nishioka at the front of the order for Pomona?
Who will be Redlands #2 and #3 starters?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on November 15, 2017, 07:51:44 PM
More teams outside the west region are making the trip to So Cal.  Good to see.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on November 16, 2017, 11:44:42 AM
Redlands and CMC are both going to be playing UT Dallas in AZ. That will up their SOS a bit.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on November 17, 2017, 02:29:25 AM
Quote from: MIFDad on November 16, 2017, 11:44:42 AM
Redlands and CMC are both going to be playing UT Dallas in AZ. That will up their SOS a bit.

Not if they have the same kind of year as 2017.  UT Dallas went 30-9 and 33-11 but was #253 in SOS, which is exactly why they didn't get an at-large bid.  Of course this is the 2018 season we are talking about so that could change.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on November 17, 2017, 11:23:13 AM
Ah, clearly I don't know how SOS works. I figured because Massey has UT Dallas ranked #12 from last year, playing them would up the SOS rating of anyone who played them.  It looks like they are the highest rated NC opponent anyone is playing.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 17, 2017, 09:05:57 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on November 17, 2017, 11:23:13 AM
Ah, clearly I don't know how SOS works. I figured because Massey has UT Dallas ranked #12 from last year, playing them would up the SOS rating of anyone who played them.  It looks like they are the highest rated NC opponent anyone is playing.

The SOS in the ASC is so low, because the 13-team conference does not get exposed to more than 40 D-3 non-conference opponents.

The SOS tends to hover around .500, because of the geographical isolation. The ASC schools go to Arizona to play quality West Region schools who help with the Regional Rankings later in the season.

If I am an east coast coach, I want to go to Florida and play at least 4-5 of the 7-8 games one can schedule over spring break against teams who routinely finish in the top half of their conferences. That gives you the best chance of boosting the SOS.

The SCIAC also benefits from the good quality teams who want to play competitive schools who are about 4 weeks ahead of them in the playing season, as warmup for their own conference games.

On a national basis, watch the South Region and West Region schools in Frebruary and then start to follow the other regions in March onward.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on November 22, 2017, 01:11:31 PM
Some additional schedules have been released and here are the non-conference matchups.

Chapman
Vanguard (exhibition)
Concordia (TX) x1 @Tucson, AZ
UT Dallas x1 @Tucson, AZ
Sul Ross x1 @Tucson, AZ
Castleton x1
Concordia (WI) x2
Ursinus x1
Vassar x1
Ithaca x1
Dickinson x2
Linfield x1
Middlebury x1
Williams x1
George Fox x1

Pomona-Pitzer
Lewis & Clark x1
Whitman x2
Willamette x1
Bates x1
Castleton x1
Puget Sound x1
Rutgers-Newark x1
Dickinson x1
Ithaca x1
Endicott x1
Vassar x1
Williams x1
Middlebury x1
PLU x1

Redlands
@ Vanguard (exhibition)
@ Cal St Dominguez Hills (exhibition)
Claremont x1 (non-conference) @Tucson, AZ
Sul Ross x1 @Tucson, AZ
UT Dallas x1 @Tucson, AZ
Concordia (TX) x1 @Tucson, AZ
Ursinus x2
Centenary (LA) x2
Endicott x2
Dickinson x1
Ithaca x1
Rutgers-Newark x1
Williams x2
Middlebury x1


Still waiting on Cal Lu, Claremont, and La Verne to release their 2018 schedules. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on November 22, 2017, 01:16:17 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on November 15, 2017, 11:03:04 AM
I wonder if Cal Lu winning it all last year affords halo effect into next year such that IF the SCIAC  Conference Tourney #1 seed loses - say in the championship finals of the conference tourney - would they get an enhanced look as an at-large entry.

Personally, speaking as a Whittier fan, I like their schedule.  It's got some teams we have not seen before, and a couple we have where the games were competitive last year.  I think the conference is opened up a bit due to graduation, so we will see how well teams recruit.

Some questions...
How well does Cal Lu reload - they seemingly were hardest hit by graduation.
What's life going to be like without Nishioka at the front of the order for Pomona?
Who will be Redlands #2 and #3 starters?

I think Redlands lost the most out of anyone in the SCIAC.  They lose 23 starts on the mound and 3 of their top hitters.  I feel like Cal Lu has a little bit more coming back but we won't see until rosters are released.  Either way, the SCIAC should be very competitive this year with a few schools having some veteran talent rolling out for the 2018 season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 24, 2017, 01:17:31 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on November 22, 2017, 01:11:31 PM
Some additional schedules have been released and here are the non-conference matchups.

Chapman
Vanguard (exhibition)
Concordia (TX) x1 @Tucson, AZ
UT Dallas x1 @Tucson, AZ
Sul Ross x1 @Tucson, AZ
Castleton x1
Concordia (WI) x2
Ursinus x1
Vassar x1
Ithaca x1
Dickinson x2
Linfield x1
Middlebury x1
Williams x1
George Fox x1

Pomona-Pitzer
Lewis & Clark x1
Whitman x2
Willamette x1
Bates x1
Castleton x1
Puget Sound x1
Rutgers-Newark x1
Dickinson x1
Ithaca x1
Endicott x1
Vassar x1
Williams x1
Middlebury x1
PLU x1

Redlands
@ Vanguard (exhibition)
@ Cal St Dominguez Hills (exhibition)
Claremont x1 (non-conference) @Tucson, AZ
Sul Ross x1 @Tucson, AZ
UT Dallas x1 @Tucson, AZ
Concordia (TX) x1 @Tucson, AZ
Ursinus x2
Centenary (LA) x2
Endicott x2
Dickinson x1
Ithaca x1
Rutgers-Newark x1
Williams x2
Middlebury x1


Still waiting on Cal Lu, Claremont, and La Verne to release their 2018 schedules. 

Once again, the Arizona tourney will feature some good intra-region contests.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on December 04, 2017, 01:31:27 PM
Latest post on Whittier's ballpark upgrades...

http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2017-18/releases/20171201jnmw3b (http://www.wcpoets.com/sports/bsb/2017-18/releases/20171201jnmw3b)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on December 22, 2017, 06:25:40 PM
CLU non-Conf games:


2/20 Castelton
2/21 Bates (ME)
4/13-4/14 Pacific Lutheran x3

Additionally, per their press release but not on their website schedule:

The #2 ranked Kingsmen start the season with some stiff competition early on and will see where they stand in the poll. The Violet and Gold take on Linfield (Ore.) three times to start the year. Linfield is No. 34 in the poll.

Next the Kingsmen will take on Texas-Dallas and Concordia, both of which are strong Texas schools. Texas Dallas is ranked No. 7 and Concordia is ranked No. 30.

More notable ranked competition that the Kinsgmen will play this season are Centenary (No. 12), Ithaca (No. 21) and Rutgers-Newark.



Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on December 23, 2017, 08:04:30 PM
Is Cal Lu rated correctly at #2 considering that most of their starters graduated?  Are the next guys up all that?

(not trying to stir anything up - genuinely interested)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on December 24, 2017, 12:57:19 AM
Quote from: MIFDad on December 23, 2017, 08:04:30 PM
Is Cal Lu rated correctly at #2 considering that most of their starters graduated?  Are the next guys up all that?

(not trying to stir anything up - genuinely interested)

They got hot at the right time and earned the national title.  If anyone looked at them before the season started, or even during the middle, they would have likely not picked them to win it all.

As far as the ranking go, I think a lot of people pick based on the previous years results, whether that is good or not.

Cal Lu does have a lot to replace, but they were in the same boat last year.  The 2016 team was insanely talented but went 0-2 in the Regional and never even came close to winning it all.  Cal Lu is the type of program that doesn't need to rebuild, they simply reload.  I am sure recruiting for the 2018 season was pretty easy and there will be a number of transfers.  Regardless, they will see where they are right away with Linfield, UT Dallas, and Concordia TX as their first 5 games.

Redlands and Oxy are two SCIAC teams that really lost a lot too but I am sure they have some solid talent for 2018.  Chapman returns a lot and should be pretty solid.  Whittier, P-P, and La Verne are a toss-up and CMS is in their 3rd year with the new coach so we will see what they bring.  Hopefully Caltech can build on their SCIAC wins from last year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on December 26, 2017, 12:07:01 PM
Perhaps this shapes up to be a year where things tighten up.  I get the sense that one team may emerge to take the league going away (I can’t pinpoint which one), with the rest slugging it out until the last weekend.  The schedule - who plays who and when is a critical factor.  Getting out to a quick start is essential.

Pitching and defense will turn the tide for the teams that qualify for 4 team playoff.  Cal Lu shined in all 3 phases - pitching, hitting, defense from about mid year on.  You could SEE something special building.

It’s helpful for the other teams to see that and try to achieve - just talking about doing it is one thing, but seeing it happening is impactful.  Sort of shows you where the bar is set.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on December 26, 2017, 08:07:57 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on December 26, 2017, 12:07:01 PM


Pitching and defense will turn the tide for the teams that qualify for 4 team playoff.  Cal Lu shined in all 3 phases - pitching, hitting, defense from about mid year on.  You could something special building.



You hit the nail on the head with this.  Cal Lu went 12-1 in the post-season (3-0 in SCIAC tourney, 4-0 in the Regional, and 5-1 in the WS) and outscored their opponents 95-61 and scored an average of 7.3 runs a game against what is supposed to be the best pitching around.  Going with a 3-man rotation didn't really hurt them much at all as they gave up an average of 4.69 runs a game against the nations best hitters.  To be honest, the closest games they played were against Redlands in the SCIAC tourney winning 4-3 and 3-2.  I think the turning point in the season was going to PLU and getting swept.  They came back at had Caltech and CMS to re-focus and they did it like a championship team.  Like I said, they got hot at the right time and it carried them to their first title.  If you looked at the Cal Lu team compared to the others, they were TINY, but they still got it done.

I also agree that I think year will be a tight race and I could see 7 teams battling for the 4 spots.  Who those 4 teams are, I honestly don't have a clue.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on December 27, 2017, 04:22:47 PM
What good teams have (that bad teams do not have) is the ability to hold it together in tight games, be comfortable if/when playing from behind, then really lock it down once they gain the lead.

I have coached and watched teams with that mindset and it is a rare thing to see.  I could see these traits in Cal Lu last year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 08, 2018, 12:55:11 PM
Hey, we've got baseball going on inside this month people!  Let those poor sods in the north and east wallow in the snow and wet.  In the SCIAC, Baseball is played OUTDOORS in January!   8-)

How's your team looking?  Let's get it ramped up!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on January 08, 2018, 01:25:40 PM
Today is the first day of SCIAC practice and I do believe it's raining.

:o
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on January 08, 2018, 02:08:45 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on January 08, 2018, 01:25:40 PM
Today is the first day of SCIAC practice and I do believe it's raining.

:o
Still better than being cold enough to freeze the ocean!


https://youtu.be/j_pM3nAxgi8
https://boingboing.net/2018/01/08/watch-videos-of-frozen-ocean.html

These videos show rare views of the ocean over the weekend from Old Silver Beach in Cape Cod. Rare because, well, the ocean is frozen enough for people to walk on, and the sea of ice seems to go on forever.

During the extremely cold weather that hit the Northeast United States during the first week of January 2018, YouTuber Ryan Canty captured amazing footage of a frozen Atlantic Ocean at Old Silver Beach on Cape Cod, in North Falmouth, Massachusetts. In fact, the ocean was so completely frozen solid, several people with Carty were able to securely walk upon the ocean waves without fear of falling through. Evidently, this type of thing doesn't happen all too often.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hockeyfan77 on January 08, 2018, 09:12:17 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on January 08, 2018, 02:08:45 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on January 08, 2018, 01:25:40 PM
Today is the first day of SCIAC practice and I do believe it's raining.

:o
Still better than being cold enough to freeze the ocean!


https://youtu.be/j_pM3nAxgi8
https://boingboing.net/2018/01/08/watch-videos-of-frozen-ocean.html

These videos show rare views of the ocean over the weekend from Old Silver Beach in Cape Cod. Rare because, well, the ocean is frozen enough for people to walk on, and the sea of ice seems to go on forever.

During the extremely cold weather that hit the Northeast United States during the first week of January 2018, YouTuber Ryan Canty captured amazing footage of a frozen Atlantic Ocean at Old Silver Beach on Cape Cod, in North Falmouth, Massachusetts. In fact, the ocean was so completely frozen solid, several people with Carty were able to securely walk upon the ocean waves without fear of falling through. Evidently, this type of thing doesn't happen all too often.


The last time this has happened in my area(S.Portland Maine) was in 1934...So obviously I have never seen it in my lifetime!  We had a warm up today where the weather reached 30, it felt like the middle of summer, it's supposed to be 50 on Thursday: time to break out the shorts!  Lowest temp I recorded here was -19!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on January 09, 2018, 12:10:50 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on January 08, 2018, 02:08:45 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on January 08, 2018, 01:25:40 PM
Today is the first day of SCIAC practice and I do believe it's raining.

:o
Still better than being cold enough to freeze the ocean!


https://youtu.be/j_pM3nAxgi8
https://boingboing.net/2018/01/08/watch-videos-of-frozen-ocean.html

These videos show rare views of the ocean over the weekend from Old Silver Beach in Cape Cod. Rare because, well, the ocean is frozen enough for people to walk on, and the sea of ice seems to go on forever.

During the extremely cold weather that hit the Northeast United States during the first week of January 2018, YouTuber Ryan Canty captured amazing footage of a frozen Atlantic Ocean at Old Silver Beach on Cape Cod, in North Falmouth, Massachusetts. In fact, the ocean was so completely frozen solid, several people with Carty were able to securely walk upon the ocean waves without fear of falling through. Evidently, this type of thing doesn't happen all too often.

That is some crazy s***!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 11, 2018, 02:46:05 PM
Minor technical difficulties have been resolved - we now return you to your regularly scheduled Blue skies and upper 60's in SoCal.   8-)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 26, 2018, 07:48:12 PM
Alumni Baseball in the SCIAC this Saturday - Sunny and upper 70's

An annual classic...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmqyI0Wnsfw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmqyI0Wnsfw)

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 27, 2018, 03:42:19 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on January 26, 2018, 07:48:12 PM
Alumni Baseball in the SCIAC this Saturday - Sunny and upper 70's

An annual classic...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmqyI0Wnsfw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmqyI0Wnsfw)

"Lollygaging like a bunch of frat house joy boys" gets me every time.  The One Man Thrill Ride is an American treasure.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 30, 2018, 09:18:59 PM
Redlands opens at Vanguard tomorrow, and a nearly full slate of SCIAC teams playing non-conference teams on Friday - featuring 4 SCIAC/NWC games.  Looking forward to a fun season.

Mostly sunny and 80's.  Bring sunscreen.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 31, 2018, 03:40:35 PM
Preseason poll for the SCIAC is out.  Full JP season preview will be out later tonight.

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2017-18/releases/20180131k210i9
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on January 31, 2018, 03:48:17 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on January 26, 2018, 07:48:12 PM
Alumni Baseball in the SCIAC this Saturday - Sunny and upper 70's

An annual classic...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmqyI0Wnsfw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmqyI0Wnsfw)

Happy to report that, for the second year in a row, the PP alumni won the first (more competitive) game of the alumni game doubleheader on Saturday. In fairness to the current players, our starting nine featured six former SCIAC POYs, 3 All-Americans, and 1 National POY. The other three scrubs were First Team All-SCIAC at least once. We had five more first-teamers come off the bench (including one All-American). Despite that murderer's row of bats, Sagehen pitching held the alums to just 4 runs in nine innings before we hung a 10 spot in the 10th.

Always great to be back on the field. Was very impressed with SP Jeremy Jess who had a great freshman year last year. Kid hits spots and doesn't make a lot of mistakes. Couple other very good arms for the Sagehens, and I think there were only two total errors between both teams in the two games combined. Could this finally be there year that PP is led by pitching and defense, and not their offense? We'll see, though I'm confident the offense will continue to come around, anchored by Bryce Rogan and Cade Hulse.

Also had reports that PP had an informal 12 inning scrimmage against Cal Baptist last Thursday. Hens struck out 17 batters against that very good D2 lineup, including a 3 inning/7k/0 run performance from Nicholas Radich. I expect him to have a nice bounce-back year this year and to be a solid arm in their rotation.

Best of luck to PP this weekend as they play host to four games against NWC foes in three days (Lewis and Clark, Whitman x2, Willamette).
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on January 31, 2018, 03:50:12 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on January 31, 2018, 03:40:35 PM
Preseason poll for the SCIAC is out.  Full JP season preview will be out later tonight.

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2017-18/releases/20180131k210i9

Interesting- looks like Cal Tech got one 8th place vote. Wonder which coach thinks they'll crack the cellar? (I hope it's their own, but their play last year should certainly have been a wakeup call to the rest of the league)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 02, 2018, 10:37:38 AM
SCIAC preview has been suspended but here are a few quick thoughts.

1. Cal Lu will be tough again, but they have been for the past 30 years.
2. I think Chapman is going to have a really solid year but their pitching seems suspect at times.  Maybe throwing 95% sliders doesn't work any longer.
3. Redlands has Minjarez back but judging by their roster, their pen is going to be a very young group. 
4. La Verne will be a tough team to face like they always are.  They have a few horses back that are expected to do big things this year.
5. Pomona lost Gerrics and Nishioka but have plenty of talent.  They always have and always will swing it but it comes down to their pitching.
6. Can Oxy bounce back from a tough year after sharing the title in 2016?  They lose DeRaad and a few others but they will play hard.  I don't see them making the SCIAC tourney.
7. Claremont's coach is in his 3rd year so how own guys are starting to fill the roster so this year could tell you the direction the program is headed.  They will compete but are likely a year away from being any type of threat at all.
8. Whittier just can't seem to show any consistency throughout the years.  They play the top teams tough each year but they can't seem to get out of their own way against the rest.  Sorry Heys, I don't expect much from the Poets this year.
9. Caltech is a different program than the past.  Coming off a 2-win SCIAC season they really are looking to add a few more W's to the mix.  I met Coach Mark at the D3WS and he seems like a really nice guy.  Hopefully they are able to add a few more W's this year.

Pitcher of the year- Minjarez from Redlands or Wehner from Cal Lu
Player of the year- Weinstein from Cal Lu or Aguilar from Redlands. 

I hope the SCIAC has a good year on a national level this year after beating up on each other in conference.  Great opening weekend and good luck to all.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Skips Soldier on February 02, 2018, 01:54:48 PM
Chapman will only be throwing 90% sliders this season...

Staff is led by 6 foot 5 inch Christian Cosby. Word is Cosby was up to 97 mph in the fall and I wouldn't be surprised if we see triple digits out of Cosby this season. Matt Mogollon and Joey Harmon look to round out Chapman's rotation. They'll give the Panthers consistent quality innings.

Look for Chapman's pitching to be much improved this season with several experienced veterans. This will be the year Chapman gets back into the national spotlight.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 02, 2018, 03:12:55 PM
Quote from: Skips Soldier on February 02, 2018, 01:54:48 PM
Chapman will only be throwing 90% sliders this season...

Staff is led by 6 foot 5 inch Christian Cosby. Word is Cosby was up to 97 mph in the fall and I wouldn't be surprised if we see triple digits out of Cosby this season. Matt Mogollon and Joey Harmon look to round out Chapman's rotation. They'll give the Panthers consistent quality innings.

Look for Chapman's pitching to be much improved this season with several experienced veterans. This will be the year Chapman gets back into the national spotlight.
At 97, any chance he gets drafted next spring? This should be  his year, with only 18 innings pitched from the pen, freshman and sophomore, years. Will he continue in the pen or be a starter this year?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 02, 2018, 03:16:03 PM
Quote from: Skips Soldier on February 02, 2018, 01:54:48 PM
Chapman will only be throwing 90% sliders this season...

Staff is led by 6 foot 5 inch Christian Cosby. Word is Cosby was up to 97 mph in the fall and I wouldn't be surprised if we see triple digits out of Cosby this season. Matt Mogollon and Joey Harmon look to round out Chapman's rotation. They'll give the Panthers consistent quality innings.

Look for Chapman's pitching to be much improved this season with several experienced veterans. This will be the year Chapman gets back into the national spotlight.

Sorry, but I don't buy it one bit.  I have no doubt that he could be throwing harder than in the past but his past number do not support the notion that he could be throwing as hard as an MLB closer.  If he is and I am wrong, shame on me, but it just seems unlikely.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on February 02, 2018, 04:23:05 PM
Definitely a kid to follow. What was his velo before?  Looks like he was used very lightly last two seasons. Injuries, or too many arms in front of him?

Do D3 pitchers ever get drafted after Jr. year?

Lots of questions, I know.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on February 02, 2018, 04:42:32 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on February 02, 2018, 04:23:05 PM
Definitely a kid to follow. What was his velo before?  Looks like he was used very lightly last two seasons. Injuries, or too many arms in front of him?

Do D3 pitchers ever get drafted after Jr. year?

Lots of questions, I know.

Trevor Lubking, a LHP from PLU was drafted as a Junior in 2014.  I believe he was first D3 player drafted that year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on February 02, 2018, 04:46:23 PM
Interesting, thanks.

14th round.  It did not work out for him very well.  Never made it past Rookie league.

http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?player_id=657237#/career/R/pitching/2015/ALL
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 02, 2018, 05:16:36 PM
It's somewhat rare for D3 guys to go really high in the draft but two pitchers I know of are Jordan Zimmerman and Jason Hirsh.  Both were 2nd round picks and made it to the big leagues, Zimmerman is still playing.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on February 02, 2018, 06:39:01 PM
Didn't Brian Rauh get drafted out of Junior year in 2012?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on February 02, 2018, 06:41:44 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on February 02, 2018, 04:46:23 PM
Interesting, thanks.

14th round.  It did not work out for him very well.  Never made it past Rookie league.

http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?player_id=657237#/career/R/pitching/2015/ALL

Assuming it was an injury, either way it doesn't end up working out for many/most draftees.  He was exceptionally nasty in college, a buzz saw.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 02, 2018, 08:19:22 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on February 02, 2018, 06:39:01 PM
Didn't Brian Rauh get drafted out of Junior year in 2012?

Forgot about him, and yes, he did go after his junior year in '12.  Had a little success but I think injuries derailed his career.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on February 02, 2018, 08:28:42 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on February 02, 2018, 06:41:44 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on February 02, 2018, 04:46:23 PM
Interesting, thanks.

14th round.  It did not work out for him very well.  Never made it past Rookie league.

http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?player_id=657237#/career/R/pitching/2015/ALL

Assuming it was an injury, either way it doesn't end up working out for many/most draftees.  He was exceptionally nasty in college, a buzz saw.

That is very true.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 03, 2018, 01:32:22 AM
Redlands knocking off CSUDH makes an impression.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 03, 2018, 01:47:25 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 03, 2018, 01:32:22 AM
Redlands knocking off CSUDH makes an impression.

I wonder how to take this game though, it is listed as an exhibition for CSUDH.  They are picked 9th in the CCAA (out of 12) and that's a good D2 league.

UR started Minjarez and their starting 9, clearly treating this as a test not an exhibition.  I wonder if CSUDH came out the same...not looking to dismiss the outcome, taking down a D2 school is no small thing.  This coming off a beat down of NAIA Vanguard.  UR looks like trouble to me.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 04, 2018, 09:03:20 AM
Pretty decent weekend for the SCIAC so far with an 8-4 record against the NWC.  There are still more games today so we will see what happens as there might be some thin pitching staffs from the SCIAC.

After dropping a close one to Willamette on Friday, Claremont bounced back with a double header sweep on Lewis & Clark on Saturday and look to end the weekend with a 3-1 record with a single game today against Whitman. Trey Smith is starting out hot at the plate and the pitching has been solid with the exception of one inning.

Pomona started out with a shutout of Lewis & Clark before splitting a double header with Whitman yesterday.  Bryce Rogan is off to a hot start and Jeremy Jess threw 7 shutout innings on Friday and has hit .455 on the weekend.  One single game later today against Willamette.

Whittier looked very solid in the Friday game against LEwis & Clark and the first game Saturday against Willamette but dropped a close one in game 2 Saturday.  Alex Baez tossed a complete game shutout with 10 k's in his first start of the season and the pitching was good all around with the exception of a few innings.Brandon Mulrooney and Matt Macey have started out pretty strong so far but the other bats will need to get in gear moving forward.  The Poets get a single game with Lewis & Clark today and should close out the weekend 3-1.

Cal Lu and Linfield played a 3 game series with Cal Lu winning it 2-1.  Linfield is a veteran team with 13 seniors that have a lot of experience.  After dropping a close 8-7 extra inning game on Friday, Cal Lu got a great performance out of Derek Galvin as he went 7 and gave up just 1 run.  The pitching on the weekend was good and a new lineup hit at a .306 mark against a very solid Linfield pitching staff.  Both teams made a ton of errors with Linfield making 16 and Cal Lu making 9 over the 3 games.  Both teams need to clean that up in a hurry.

Oxy hosts Linfield today for a single game before waiting 2 weeks to play Whittier to open up SCIAC play.  I'm not sure why Oxy would play 1 game and wait 2 weeks to play while diving straight into SCIAC play?

Numerous teams from the SCIAC travel next weekend with Chapman, Redlands, Cal Lu, and Claremont heading to Tucson for a few games with some good TX squads.  La Verne is headed to Tyler, TX for a 3 game series with UT Tyler.  Caltech opens up with 3 against Providence Christian (NAIA).

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 05, 2018, 11:53:59 AM
Happy to see the SCIAC vs. NWC performances this past weekend.  We still have not seen Chapman or much from La Verne and Oxy.  Next weekend are the AZ games, so we figure to get our read on how things might shape up heading into the first SCIAC leagues series on Feb 16.

I obviously am particularly pleased with Whittier's weekend success, the most pleasing thing was the error line for the weekend, only 3 errors.  The Poets defense was the foundation for the weekend's success.  I hope to see them gain confidence from this as they take on Oxy in two weeks.  I was also concerned that such a strong opening day game would be dwelled upon, but they put that behind them and put the hammer on Willamette in Saturday's first game.  Game 2 was sort of quirky as there was some lineup tinkering - you gotta see who can do things to establish your depth.  That put WC in a bit of a hole which they clawed out of, but could not hold it.  Poets then took down L&C in game 4 in a manner in which a team should dispatch a predicted last place finisher.

Hard to complain considering past season starts, but WC could very well have been 4-0.

Bottom line:  It's way too early, but winning games never sucks.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 05, 2018, 01:15:19 PM
Fun to see the NWC parents getting their sunburn on this past weekend.  Several UFO's spotted (Unidentified Frying Objects)   8-)

All kidding aside, met a nice group of folks enjoying a sunny weekend of competitive baseball - no chippiness.  Whittier's new stadium showed well for itself with packed seats all weekend long.  Overall, the facility is a nice addition for the program and worthy of the pride the administration has in it.  It's cozy but comfortable IMHO.

There are still the sight-line issues only made a bit worse by the addition of the Pitching/Batting cage in Left Field.  The two things Whittier needs to do to fix that is to relocate the scoreboard, and use different light bulbs because the sun washes out the current ones.  Another thing they might consider is a secondary scoreboard with Score, Inning, and BSOE displayed visible to the fans maybe above the 1B dugout.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 05, 2018, 08:34:30 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 04, 2018, 09:03:20 AM
Pretty decent weekend for the SCIAC so far with an 8-4 record against the NWC.  There are still more games today so we will see what happens as there might be some thin pitching staffs from the SCIAC.

After dropping a close one to Willamette on Friday, Claremont bounced back with a double header sweep on Lewis & Clark on Saturday and look to end the weekend with a 3-1 record with a single game today against Whitman. Trey Smith is starting out hot at the plate and the pitching has been solid with the exception of one inning.

Pomona started out with a shutout of Lewis & Clark before splitting a double header with Whitman yesterday.  Bryce Rogan is off to a hot start and Jeremy Jess threw 7 shutout innings on Friday and has hit .455 on the weekend.  One single game later today against Willamette.

Whittier looked very solid in the Friday game against LEwis & Clark Whitman and the first game Saturday against Willamette but dropped a close one in game 2 Saturday.  Alex Baez tossed a complete game shutout with 10 k's in his first start of the season and the pitching was good all around with the exception of a few innings.Brandon Mulrooney and Matt Macey have started out pretty strong so far but the other bats will need to get in gear moving forward.  The Poets get a single game with Lewis & Clark today and should close out the weekend 3-1.

Cal Lu and Linfield played a 3 game series with Cal Lu winning it 2-1.  Linfield is a veteran team with 13 seniors that have a lot of experience.  After dropping a close 8-7 extra inning game on Friday, Cal Lu got a great performance out of Derek Galvin as he went 7 and gave up just 1 run.  The pitching on the weekend was good and a new lineup hit at a .306 mark against a very solid Linfield pitching staff.  Both teams made a ton of errors with Linfield making 16 and Cal Lu making 9 over the 3 games.  Both teams need to clean that up in a hurry.

Oxy hosts Linfield today for a single game before waiting 2 weeks to play Whittier to open up SCIAC play.  I'm not sure why Oxy would play 1 game and wait 2 weeks to play while diving straight into SCIAC play?

Numerous teams from the SCIAC travel next weekend with Chapman, Redlands, Cal Lu, and Claremont heading to Tucson for a few games with some good TX squads.  La Verne is headed to Tyler, TX for a 3 game series with UT Tyler.  Caltech opens up with 3 against Providence Christian (NAIA).

Fixed WC's Friday opponent.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 05, 2018, 08:43:37 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 05, 2018, 08:34:30 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 04, 2018, 09:03:20 AM
Pretty decent weekend for the SCIAC so far with an 8-4 record against the NWC.  There are still more games today so we will see what happens as there might be some thin pitching staffs from the SCIAC.

After dropping a close one to Willamette on Friday, Claremont bounced back with a double header sweep on Lewis & Clark on Saturday and look to end the weekend with a 3-1 record with a single game today against Whitman. Trey Smith is starting out hot at the plate and the pitching has been solid with the exception of one inning.

Pomona started out with a shutout of Lewis & Clark before splitting a double header with Whitman yesterday.  Bryce Rogan is off to a hot start and Jeremy Jess threw 7 shutout innings on Friday and has hit .455 on the weekend.  One single game later today against Willamette.

Whittier looked very solid in the Friday game against LEwis & Clark Whitman and the first game Saturday against Willamette but dropped a close one in game 2 Saturday.  Alex Baez tossed a complete game shutout with 10 k's in his first start of the season and the pitching was good all around with the exception of a few innings.Brandon Mulrooney and Matt Macey have started out pretty strong so far but the other bats will need to get in gear moving forward.  The Poets get a single game with Lewis & Clark today and should close out the weekend 3-1.

Cal Lu and Linfield played a 3 game series with Cal Lu winning it 2-1.  Linfield is a veteran team with 13 seniors that have a lot of experience.  After dropping a close 8-7 extra inning game on Friday, Cal Lu got a great performance out of Derek Galvin as he went 7 and gave up just 1 run.  The pitching on the weekend was good and a new lineup hit at a .306 mark against a very solid Linfield pitching staff.  Both teams made a ton of errors with Linfield making 16 and Cal Lu making 9 over the 3 games.  Both teams need to clean that up in a hurry.

Oxy hosts Linfield today for a single game before waiting 2 weeks to play Whittier to open up SCIAC play.  I'm not sure why Oxy would play 1 game and wait 2 weeks to play while diving straight into SCIAC play?

Numerous teams from the SCIAC travel next weekend with Chapman, Redlands, Cal Lu, and Claremont heading to Tucson for a few games with some good TX squads.  La Verne is headed to Tyler, TX for a 3 game series with UT Tyler.  Caltech opens up with 3 against Providence Christian (NAIA).

Fixed WC's Friday opponent.

Yep, my bad on that one.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on February 08, 2018, 06:54:59 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 04, 2018, 09:03:20 AM
Oxy hosts Linfield today for a single game before waiting 2 weeks to play Whittier to open up SCIAC play.  I'm not sure why Oxy would play 1 game and wait 2 weeks to play while diving straight into SCIAC play?

Considering all the trouble Oxy is having fielding a football team, maybe the baseball team can only muster enough players to play Over The Line.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Skips Soldier on February 09, 2018, 07:48:21 PM
2 wins for Chapman so far out in Arizona. Cosby on the bump tomorrow to finish off the sweep.

A few costly errors but the staff has looked pretty solid thus far. Expect the offense to pick it up as the season progresses.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 09, 2018, 09:02:08 PM
Quote from: Skips Soldier on February 09, 2018, 07:48:21 PM
2 wins for Chapman so far out in Arizona. Cosby on the bump tomorrow to finish off the sweep.

A few costly errors but the staff has looked pretty solid thus far. Expect the offense to pick it up as the season progresses.

Why is J. Love not in the lineup?  He would help pickup the O.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Skips Soldier on February 09, 2018, 09:30:12 PM
Hand injury. He could be out around 5 more weeks. Although Love says he'll be back in 2-3 weeks. Kid is tough as nails.

Love's the leader of this ball club and they are no doubt a better team with him on the field. Watch out when he returns.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 09, 2018, 11:54:13 PM
Quote from: Skips Soldier on February 09, 2018, 09:30:12 PM
Hand injury. He could be out around 5 more weeks. Although Love says he'll be back in 2-3 weeks. Kid is tough as nails.

Love's the leader of this ball club and they are no doubt a better team with him on the field. Watch out when he returns.

That's a tough break.  Hope he heals up quick and not miss out on his senior season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 10, 2018, 06:45:29 PM
#22 UT-Dallas is 0-3 in SCIAC play against 3 teams that figure to be fighting for the top spot in the league.  Happy to see the SCIAC representing well early in the year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 11, 2018, 02:22:48 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 10, 2018, 06:45:29 PM
#22 UT-Dallas is 0-3 in SCIAC play against 3 teams that figure to be fighting for the top spot in the league.  Happy to see the SCIAC representing well early in the year.

UT-Dallas is on their way to an 0-4 start as they are currently getting whipped by Claremont 8-1 in the 7th.  that's a 33 win team in 2017 that returned almost their entire lineup.  Hopefully Redlands and Cal Lu can pull out wins today as well as that would be a very successful AZ trip for the SCIAC.

EDIT: it is now 8-8 in the 9th...

EDIT again: Claremont with the walkoff win in 10 innings.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 11, 2018, 03:45:45 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 11, 2018, 02:22:48 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 10, 2018, 06:45:29 PM
#22 UT-Dallas is 0-3 in SCIAC play against 3 teams that figure to be fighting for the top spot in the league.  Happy to see the SCIAC representing well early in the year.

UT-Dallas is on their way to an 0-4 start as they are currently getting whipped by Claremont 8-1 in the 7th.  that's a 33 win team in 2017 that returned almost their entire lineup.  Hopefully Redlands and Cal Lu can pull out wins today as well as that would be a very successful AZ trip for the SCIAC.

EDIT: it is now 8-8 in the 9th...

EDIT again: Claremont with the walkoff win in 10 innings.
That is a BIG UGLY!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 11, 2018, 04:52:36 PM
No easy weekends in the SCIAC...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Skips Soldier on February 12, 2018, 05:23:55 PM
Chapman went 3-0 over the weekend.

As a team they slashed .311/.411/.534 and averaged 7.67 runs per game.

Top performers:

Justin Stream: 7 for 12        1 double  1 home run  3 rbi
Andrew Mendonca: 5 for 11  2 doubles 1 triple 2 rbi
Tristan Kevitch: 4 for 10       1 double   1 triple  1 home run   4 rbi

Obviously a small sample size but I expect them to keep that offensive pace up if not pick it up a little.

Bright spots for the pitching staff were:

Christian Cosby: 6ip 2h 2bb 7k
Matt Mogollon: 6ip 3h 2bb 7k
Austin Merrill: 3ip 1h 1bb 5k

Team era was 4.33 and the average runs allowed was 5.67

The pitching staff showed signs of a classic chapman pitching staff of recent years (a lot of walks and a lot of strikeouts). Chapman should probably focus a little less on striking guys out and start attacking hitters. This staff has too much talent to get cute and fall in love with striking guys out.

The pitching staff is going to need to step up if the Panthers want a different outcome this season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pirat on February 18, 2018, 05:54:57 PM
"Strong and balanced" conference.   As of the last time I checked, only one team with losing record. Real good pre-league record.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mike Lehman on February 19, 2018, 12:19:55 AM
Quote from: Mike Lehman on February 18, 2018, 04:06:18 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 11, 2018, 04:52:36 PM
No easy weekends in the SCIAC...

Cal Lu and Chapman both started SCIAC playing poorly by  losing 2 out if 3. What's up ?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 19, 2018, 12:32:36 AM
Welcome Mike Lehman!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mike Lehman on February 19, 2018, 06:40:49 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 19, 2018, 12:32:36 AM
Welcome Mike Lehman!
Formerly known as CrashDavisD3...The mask has been removed after all these years.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 19, 2018, 08:03:01 PM
Quote from: Mike Lehman on February 19, 2018, 06:40:49 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 19, 2018, 12:32:36 AM
Welcome Mike Lehman!
Formerly known as CrashDavisD3...The mask has been removed after all these years.

Hey Crash, welcome back.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 19, 2018, 09:16:28 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 19, 2018, 08:03:01 PM
Quote from: Mike Lehman on February 19, 2018, 06:40:49 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 19, 2018, 12:32:36 AM
Welcome Mike Lehman!
Formerly known as CrashDavisD3...The mask has been removed after all these years.

Hey Crash, welcome back.
Great to have you back!

The West really looks good and balanced this year!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Skips Soldier on February 20, 2018, 03:19:46 PM
Why is Chapman's staff not performing up to their potential?

34 walks in 53 innings and a 4.92 era...


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Skips Soldier on February 20, 2018, 04:13:28 PM
Chapman 2003-2012(Tereschuk Era):
Winning %: .735
Era: 2.99
bb/9: 3.28
k/9: 7.75

Chapman 2014-2017(Laverty Era):
Winning %: .640
Era: 4.19
bb/9: 4.24
k/9: 7.34
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 21, 2018, 09:25:20 PM
Bates not being shown much hospitality this season by the SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 22, 2018, 08:08:27 PM
Castleton shows a lot of guts scheduling 6 games in 5 days.  Not many coaches would do that.  My cap is tipped to them.

I hope their SCIAC tour helps set them up for later season success.

NAC Champs 4 years running, averaging over 30 wins a year...they are doing something right in Vermont.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 22, 2018, 09:04:39 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 22, 2018, 08:08:27 PM
Castleton shows a lot of guts scheduling 6 games in 5 days.  Not many coaches would do that.  My cap is tipped to them.

I hope their SCIAC tour helps set them up for later season success.

NAC Champs 4 years running, averaging over 30 wins a year...they are doing something right in Vermont.
They are moving to the Little East.  It will get tough soon.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hockeyfan77 on February 23, 2018, 01:10:29 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 22, 2018, 08:08:27 PM
Castleton shows a lot of guts scheduling 6 games in 5 days.  Not many coaches would do that.  My cap is tipped to them.

I hope their SCIAC tour helps set them up for later season success.

NAC Champs 4 years running, averaging over 30 wins a year...they are doing something right in Vermont.


Yeah, they play in one of the worst conference in probably all of D3: lets see if the can handle playing in the LEC...Any LEC team would have 30 wins in that conference
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 23, 2018, 08:03:46 PM
Fear the Poet!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on February 24, 2018, 01:34:27 PM
They might have to break up the Poets.  Maybe the Tigers too.

If they both do well today it should be a very interesting season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 24, 2018, 10:15:42 PM
Chapman, Whittier, and Oxy all won Friday and were swept today.  La Verne swept Caltech and CMS got smoked twice by Puget Sound.  I think the only thing that I can figure out right now is the SCIAC is very balanced and everyone is going to beat up on each other.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 25, 2018, 01:35:10 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 11, 2018, 04:52:36 PM
No easy weekends in the SCIAC...

Like I said...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 25, 2018, 10:49:50 AM
Quick breakdown of the Oxy/Cal Lu series.

Friday- Oxy put pressure on Cal Lu all day long and got a huge performance from Reid Gibbs who went 4-5 with 3 doubles, 2 RBI, and 2 runs scored.  After a shaky 1st inning that easily could have been worse, Josh Cohen settled down and threw a CG to save the bullpen.  Oxy came up with some big hits late in the game to ice it.

Saturday- Oxy came out hot in the 1st inning of game 1 where they scored 3 runs on 3 hits to take an early lead.  From that point on, Cal Lu pitchers gave up a total of 8 hits (1 double and 7 singles), 0 runs, and had 22 strikeouts over the next 17 innings.  Oxy was still ahead 3-2 going into the 7th of game 1 but Cal Lu jumped all over them by scoring 10 runs over the next 3 innings.

Game 2 was a dominant pitching performance by Cal Lu.  Throwing a 5 hit shutout is good at any level.  Oxy made a few errors early that really hurt them and allowed Cal Lu to score a few runs early.

Cal Lu came into the year ranked #2 due to winning it all last year.  This really is a brand new team and they still have a ton to figure out but hopefully this is the kind of weekend that can get them going.  in 2017, Cal Lu was 3-4 after the Friday game at Oxy.  They came out the next day and started a stretch of playing really good baseball while going 37-7 over their last 44 games.  I hope they can continue that momentum into next weekend against a tough Redlands squad.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mike Lehman on February 25, 2018, 10:39:06 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 24, 2018, 10:15:42 PM
Chapman, Whittier, and Oxy all won Friday and were swept today.  La Verne swept Caltech and CMS got smoked twice by Puget Sound.  I think the only thing that I can figure out right now is the SCIAC is very balanced and everyone is going to beat up on each other.
Chapman has to pick it up or will miss the SCIAC playoffs...A real mystery on who will come out on top of the SCIAC in 2018.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 26, 2018, 11:31:16 AM
It is an interesting scene to see Whittier leaving the UofR disappointed that they "only" won 1 game this weekend.  Redlands got through it though but it was more difficult than they expected.

No easy weekends in the SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mike Lehman on March 03, 2018, 07:11:05 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 26, 2018, 11:31:16 AM
It is an interesting scene to see Whittier leaving the UofR disappointed that they "only" won 1 game this weekend.  Redlands got through it though but it was more difficult than they expected.

No easy weekends in the SCIAC.

Chapman and Cal Lu sitting near the bottom so far in SCIAC play. Both could miss the SCIAC playoffs unless they turn things around.
http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2017-18/standings
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 09, 2018, 07:49:40 PM
Poets break conference losing skid, taking Game 1 from Chapman 2-1.

Tomorrow will be a battle as both teams need these games.

No easy weekends in the SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 09, 2018, 07:51:38 PM
Add Ursinus (the Ursini?) to a growing list of teams that got put through the SCIAC wringer for their Spring Break.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on March 09, 2018, 11:45:35 PM
81 runs in 6 games.  But they are not done!  Oxy tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 10, 2018, 06:57:14 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 09, 2018, 07:51:38 PM
Add Ursinus (the Ursini?) to a growing list of teams that got put through the SCIAC wringer for their Spring Break.

I am going to go out on a limb and guess California will not be on their spring break destination list moving forward.  What a nightmare trip!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 10, 2018, 01:12:20 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 10, 2018, 06:57:14 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 09, 2018, 07:51:38 PM
Add Ursinus (the Ursini?) to a growing list of teams that got put through the SCIAC wringer for their Spring Break.

I am going to go out on a limb and guess California will not be on their spring break destination list moving forward.  What a nightmare trip!
I think that SCIAC baseball has gotten consistently better and more balanced in the last 15 years I have followed them from afar!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mike Lehman on March 10, 2018, 05:03:53 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 10, 2018, 01:12:20 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 10, 2018, 06:57:14 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 09, 2018, 07:51:38 PM
Add Ursinus (the Ursini?) to a growing list of teams that got put through the SCIAC wringer for their Spring Break.

I am going to go out on a limb and guess California will not be on their spring break destination list moving forward.  What a nightmare trip!
I think that SCIAC baseball has gotten consistently better and more balanced in the last 15 years I have followed them from afar!

No team are dominating this year. Don't know who will get the bid from SCIAC at this time. Anything can happen..
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 11, 2018, 10:55:40 AM
Quote from: MIFDad on March 09, 2018, 11:45:35 PM
81 runs in 6 games.  But they are not done!  Oxy tomorrow.

Boy, Oxy sure laid an egg in that one.  It's tough to understand how a team playing on full rest can lose to a team playing their 7th game in six days and comin off giving up 53 runs over 3 games.

Pretty good series between Chapman and Whittier.  Big game for both squads on Tuesday night.

Redlands threw away the first game with Centenary, literally.  Making 5 errors is not going to help in any game, especially not against a good club.  Coming back to get the split was good for them as getting swept would not have been a good deal.

Pomona is rolling right along and doing it quietly.

CMS put up video game numbers against Ursinus but I can't help but feel like their pitching is pretty thin.  Outslugging teams is going to be the way they will have to win games, and that's fine.

A lot of baseball to be played today.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mike Lehman on March 12, 2018, 01:48:21 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 11, 2018, 10:55:40 AM
Quote from: MIFDad on March 09, 2018, 11:45:35 PM
81 runs in 6 games.  But they are not done!  Oxy tomorrow.

Boy, Oxy sure laid an egg in that one.  It's tough to understand how a team playing on full rest can lose to a team playing their 7th game in six days and comin off giving up 53 runs over 3 games.

Pretty good series between Chapman and Whittier.  Big game for both squads on Tuesday night.

Redlands threw away the first game with Centenary, literally.  Making 5 errors is not going to help in any game, especially not against a good club.  Coming back to get the split was good for them as getting swept would not have been a good deal.

Pomona is rolling right along and doing it quietly.

CMS put up video game numbers against Ursinus but I can't help but feel like their pitching is pretty thin.  Outslugging teams is going to be the way they will have to win games, and that's fine.

A lot of baseball to be played today.
Pomona, Redlands, and La Verne at the top.,

Chapman and Cal Lu not their year. Need to battle to get into the SCIAC playoffs and get hot  and win it if either hope to get to the regional.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 13, 2018, 09:50:35 PM
I thought I had seen it all, but here is a new one for me.....

Chapman no-hits Whittier.....and loses 2-0.  Whittier gets 2 in the 8th on a walk, SAC bunt error, another SAC bunt error to score a run, passed ball to score another run, HBP, stolen base, K, pop up, K.

What an absolute nightmare for Chapman.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 14, 2018, 12:11:58 AM
Poetic.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 14, 2018, 10:26:06 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 13, 2018, 09:50:35 PM
I thought I had seen it all, but here is a new one for me.....

Chapman no-hits Whittier.....and loses 2-0.  Whittier gets 2 in the 8th on a walk, SAC bunt error, another SAC bunt error to score a run, passed ball to score another run, HBP, stolen base, K, pop up, K.

What an absolute nightmare for Chapman.

it happens but not often - from 4 years ago:
http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2014/03/edgewood-hillmann-nohitter
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 14, 2018, 11:49:41 AM
I submit that Chapman should not be attempting to no-hit Whittier.

In 2015, the Panthers no-hit Whittier through the first 5 innings, committed 5 errors and lost 8-6.  The Poets did end up with a few hits, but the scenarios were similar in that Chapman's inability to cleanly field the SAC bunt(s) were their downfall.

One other thing not fully credited was the guttiness of the Whittier pitching and defense, as the Poet offense generated nothing for 7 innings while the Panthers put pressure on almost every inning.  The Poets needed every bit of it including a dramatic Fly Out/Throw out at the Plate double play to prevent what could have been a winning run.

The game was played in rainy/drizzly weather and it is highly likely that had Chapman taken any lead after 6 complete, they may have stopped.

Both teams NEEDED to win this.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 14, 2018, 11:53:53 AM
I don't know if there is a stat tracking this but Whittier pitchers have got to be up there in picking runners off first.

They got another one that dramatically ended the game yesterday.

Chapman got a runner aboard with 2 out and a last chance.  One pitch later he was picked off and laying face first, pounding the dirt as the Poets celebrated their uncanny win.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 14, 2018, 01:35:27 PM
Congratulations to CLU's Coach Marty Slimak for his 700th win yesterday!!   


THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. – California Lutheran head baseball coach Marty Slimak got his 700th win as the Kingsmen defeated the Ithaca Bombers 6-3 Tuesday afternoon at Ullman Stadium.

Coach Slimak got his 700th win in his 25th season at the helm of the Kingsmen. He is the 35th coach at the Division III level to accumulate 700 wins. On top of all the wins, the Kingsmen also won the 2017 NCAA World Series. They have six World Series appearances, 15 West Regional appearances and 14 SCIAC Championships.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 14, 2018, 04:14:51 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 14, 2018, 12:11:58 AM
Poetic.

+1
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 14, 2018, 04:23:34 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 14, 2018, 01:35:27 PM
Congratulations to CLU's Coach Marty Slimak for his 700th win yesterday!!   


THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. – California Lutheran head baseball coach Marty Slimak got his 700th win as the Kingsmen defeated the Ithaca Bombers 6-3 Tuesday afternoon at Ullman Stadium.

Coach Slimak got his 700th win in his 25th season at the helm of the Kingsmen. He is the 35th coach at the Division III level to accumulate 700 wins. On top of all the wins, the Kingsmen also won the 2017 NCAA World Series. They have six World Series appearances, 15 West Regional appearances and 14 SCIAC Championships.

Amazing accomplishments, congratulations to him.  An average of 28 wins per season...not easy.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 28, 2018, 06:48:17 PM
Big upcoming weekend in the SCIAC.  Chapman and Redlands are playing NC today, don't expect either to burn any frontline pitching just to get a W as they head into the final month of play.

P-P vs. Cal Tech.  P-P looks to avoid last year's slip.  Cal Tech used Krop (faced 35 hitters - Why???) vs. Middlebury.  Will be interested to see how they use him on short rest.  P-P has been hit hard by injuries, but guys are stepping up and they keep winning.

Redlands vs. CMS.  CMS needs to chip at least one off, and Redlands would get more distance on SCIAC #2 and more cred with a sweep.

Chapman vs. Cal Lu.  Neither team can afford to lose games here.  One team will lose at least 2, and it will hurt.  Must see TV.

Occidental vs. La Verne.  If Chapman and CLU weren't so compelling this would be the Series of the Week.  Might have to get two phones going at once to watch this and Chapman vs. CLU while I am attending Whittier vs. Geo Fox.

No easy weekends in the SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 01, 2018, 10:45:09 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 28, 2018, 06:48:17 PM
Big upcoming weekend in the SCIAC.  Chapman and Redlands are playing NC today, don't expect either to burn any frontline pitching just to get a W as they head into the final month of play.

P-P vs. Cal Tech.  P-P looks to avoid last year's slip.  Cal Tech used Krop (faced 35 hitters - Why???) vs. Middlebury.  Will be interested to see how they use him on short rest.  P-P has been hit hard by injuries, but guys are stepping up and they keep winning.

Redlands vs. CMS.  CMS needs to chip at least one off, and Redlands would get more distance on SCIAC #2 and more cred with a sweep.

Chapman vs. Cal Lu.  Neither team can afford to lose games here.  One team will lose at least 2, and it will hurt.  Must see TV.

Occidental vs. La Verne.  If Chapman and CLU weren't so compelling this would be the Series of the Week.  Might have to get two phones going at once to watch this and Chapman vs. CLU while I am attending Whittier vs. Geo Fox.

No easy weekends in the SCIAC.
P-P 2-1 over Cal Tech.  Beavers prove last year was no fluke.  Having been mercied 5 straight in SCIAC play, Cal Tech's Krop comes back on 2 days rest to hold P-P to 2 runs.  Crazy.

Redlands 2-1 over CMS.  Stags chip one off the SCIAC leaders and keep themselves in the mix.

Chapman 2-1 over CLU.  Chapman sees 10 game win streak stopped, but takes a critical series.

La Verne 2-1 over Oxy.  La Verne quietly tied with Redlands in the loss column.  Oxy has Redlands, P-P, Chapman remaining in SCIAC.

Whittier 2-1 over Geo Fox.  Poets could have won all three or lost all three.  Spotted the Bruins early leads in each game and came back each time.  WC 13-3 in non-league games (5-2 in the NWC - maybe could go to the NWC Conference Tourney?).  ;D  Poets have critical series with CLU on tap.

Truly, no easy weekends in the SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mike Lehman on April 04, 2018, 04:03:40 PM
It is possible that Chapman could win 30 games but miss out of the SCIAC playoffs. Losing the wrong games at the wrong time will be costly. They almost need to win out their remaining games and have teams ahead them lose. to make the top 4 in the SCIAC.  ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 04, 2018, 04:39:38 PM
Quote from: Mike Lehman on April 04, 2018, 04:03:40 PM
It is possible that Chapman could win 30 games but miss out of the SCIAC playoffs. Losing the wrong games at the wrong time will be costly. They almost need to win out their remaining games and have teams ahead them lose. to make the top 4 in the SCIAC.  ??? ??? ??? ???

I highly doubt it.  I think Chapman rolls through their last 12 games at 11-1 or 10-2 and finishes 2nd.

As for the rest of the SCIAC:

Redlands has La Verne, Oxy, and Pomona.  They have a firm grasp on the 1 seed.

La Verne has Redlands, Pomona, Chapman, and Whittier.  That is a pretty tough stretch.
Pomona has CMS, La Verne, Oxy and Redlands left.  The way they finish all depends on which team shows up, the one who took 2/3 from Chapman and swept Whittier, or the one that dropped 2/3 to Cal Lu and lost to Caltech.

Oxy has Redlands, Pomona, and Chapman left.  They have been getting very solid Friday wins but after that they are pretty hit and miss.  I don't think they have the offense to beat these teams but what I think doesn't really matter.

CMS has Pomona, Chapman, Whittier and Cal Lu.  Again, not an easy stretch.  CMS has been very up and down and look like a team that can beat anybody or lose to anybody on any given day.  They cannot afford to go on a cold streak.

Cal Lu has Whittier, Caltech and CMS left.  They have to win a Friday SCIAC game this year, right?  The pitchign has been good but their hitting just stinks.  They cannot lose any of the remaining 3 series, simple as that.

Chapman has Caltech, CMS, La Verne and Oxy left and they really should roll through that.  They are the most talented team in the SCIAC that gets the least out of their talent.

Whittier has Cal Lu, Caltech, CMS and La Verne.  Will the non-conference Poets make a run at the top 4?  They really cannot afford many more losses (duh) and some teams ahead of them need to drop some games.

Caltech has Chapman, Whittier and Cal Lu left.  They got a win last week, will they get another?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 06, 2018, 10:37:10 PM
Was looking at the standings today and noticed some interesting things. First thing that struck me was Chapman's 15-1 non-con record. Started looking at everyone else's and noticed that the SCIAC has been pretty great this year out of conference. While that's always a tad skewed by getting some east coast teams who've just started playing outdoors, I think this year has been the most impressive in recent memory. Every team besides Caltech is over .500 in non-con.

Full results:

Redlands  12-4
La Verne   9-7
Pomona    9-5
Occidental 7-5
Cal Lu       10-3
Chapman  15-1
CMS          9-7
Whittier     13-3
Caltech      3-7

Total: 87-42

That's a conference winning percentage of .674 against out of conference opponents. Very impressive, and hopefully will be significant when those Pool C bids are given out this year. I'd think Chapman and Redlands are both in the running.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 07, 2018, 01:01:54 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 06, 2018, 10:37:10 PM
Was looking at the standings today and noticed some interesting things. First thing that struck me was Chapman's 15-1 non-con record. Started looking at everyone else's and noticed that the SCIAC has been pretty great this year out of conference. While that's always a tad skewed by getting some east coast teams who've just started playing outdoors, I think this year has been the most impressive in recent memory. Every team besides Caltech is over .500 in non-con.

Full results:

Redlands  12-4
La Verne   9-7
Pomona    9-5
Occidental 7-5
Cal Lu       10-3
Chapman  15-1
CMS          9-7
Whittier     13-3
Caltech      3-7

Total: 87-42

That's a conference winning percentage of .674 against out of conference opponents. Very impressive, and hopefully will be significant when those Pool C bids are given out this year. I'd think Chapman and Redlands are both in the running.

+1
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Richard Hamstocks on April 08, 2018, 03:38:01 PM
Assuming Cal Tech goes winless, the percentage of paths through the remainder of the season that results in each team making the conference tournament are:
Redlands: 98%
PP: 89%
La Verne: 89%
Oxy: 65%
Chapman: 43%
Whittier: 12%
CMC: 3%
CLU: 2%

Of course, not all paths are equally likely, but this gives some idea about who is going to need help and how much they will need. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 08, 2018, 05:11:16 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on April 08, 2018, 03:38:01 PM
Assuming Cal Tech goes winless, the percentage of paths through the remainder of the season that results in each team making the conference tournament are:
Redlands: 98%
PP: 89%
La Verne: 89%
Oxy: 65%
Chapman: 43%
Whittier: 12%
CMC: 3%
CLU: 2%

Of course, not all paths are equally likely, but this gives some idea about who is going to need help and how much they will need.

So you're tellin' me there's a chance!

https://youtu.be/TCKOI24k_UY (https://youtu.be/TCKOI24k_UY)

8-)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 08, 2018, 05:12:32 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on April 08, 2018, 03:38:01 PM
Assuming Cal Tech goes winless, the percentage of paths through the remainder of the season that results in each team making the conference tournament are:
Redlands: 98%
PP: 89%
La Verne: 89%
Oxy: 65%
Chapman: 43%
Whittier: 12%
CMC: 3%
CLU: 2%

Of course, not all paths are equally likely, but this gives some idea about who is going to need help and how much they will need.

Presuming Cal Tech will go winless is not conducive to Cal Tech going winless...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 08, 2018, 07:47:44 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on April 08, 2018, 03:38:01 PM
Assuming Cal Tech goes winless, the percentage of paths through the remainder of the season that results in each team making the conference tournament are:
Redlands: 98%
PP: 89%
La Verne: 89%
Oxy: 65%
Chapman: 43%
Whittier: 12%
CMC: 3%
CLU: 2%

Of course, not all paths are equally likely, but this gives some idea about who is going to need help and how much they will need.

Man, from the penthouse to the outhouse real quick.

There are some really big series coming up, starting with Oxy and Redlands this week as well as Pomona La Verne.  It should be interesting to see how this all plays out.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 08, 2018, 11:36:12 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 08, 2018, 07:47:44 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on April 08, 2018, 03:38:01 PM
Assuming Cal Tech goes winless, the percentage of paths through the remainder of the season that results in each team making the conference tournament are:
Redlands: 98%
PP: 89%
La Verne: 89%
Oxy: 65%
Chapman: 43%
Whittier: 12%
CMC: 3%
CLU: 2%

Of course, not all paths are equally likely, but this gives some idea about who is going to need help and how much they will need.

Man, from the penthouse to the outhouse real quick.

There are some really big series coming up, starting with Oxy and Redlands this week as well as Pomona La Verne.  It should be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Remaining series opponents:
Pomona: La Verne, Oxy, Redlands
Oxy: Redlands, Pomona, Chapman
Redlands:  Oxy, Pomona
La Verne: Pomona, Chapman, Whittier
Chapman: CMS, La Verne, Oxy
Whittier: Cal Tech, CMS, La Verne
CMS: Chapman, Whittier, Cal Lu
Cal Lu: Cal Tech, CMS
Cal Tech: Whittier, Cal Lu

I see no easy weekends in the SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 10, 2018, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 08, 2018, 05:12:32 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on April 08, 2018, 03:38:01 PM
Assuming Cal Tech goes winless, the percentage of paths through the remainder of the season that results in each team making the conference tournament are:
Redlands: 98%
PP: 89%
La Verne: 89%
Oxy: 65%
Chapman: 43%
Whittier: 12%
CMC: 3%
CLU: 2%

Of course, not all paths are equally likely, but this gives some idea about who is going to need help and how much they will need.

Presuming Cal Tech will go winless is not conducive to Cal Tech going winless...

The days to assume CalTech will go winless are behind us.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 10, 2018, 09:15:21 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 10, 2018, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 08, 2018, 05:12:32 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on April 08, 2018, 03:38:01 PM
Assuming Cal Tech goes winless, the percentage of paths through the remainder of the season that results in each team making the conference tournament are:
Redlands: 98%
PP: 89%
La Verne: 89%
Oxy: 65%
Chapman: 43%
Whittier: 12%
CMC: 3%
CLU: 2%

Of course, not all paths are equally likely, but this gives some idea about who is going to need help and how much they will need.

Presuming Cal Tech will go winless is not conducive to Cal Tech going winless...

The days to assume CalTech will go winless are behind us.
I have wondered in how many conferences would Cal Tech be competitive, with at least a .500 won-loss record in conference play!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on April 10, 2018, 11:34:10 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 10, 2018, 09:15:21 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 10, 2018, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 08, 2018, 05:12:32 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on April 08, 2018, 03:38:01 PM
Assuming Cal Tech goes winless, the percentage of paths through the remainder of the season that results in each team making the conference tournament are:
Redlands: 98%
PP: 89%
La Verne: 89%
Oxy: 65%
Chapman: 43%
Whittier: 12%
CMC: 3%
CLU: 2%

Of course, not all paths are equally likely, but this gives some idea about who is going to need help and how much they will need.

Presuming Cal Tech will go winless is not conducive to Cal Tech going winless...

The days to assume CalTech will go winless are behind us.
I have wondered in how many conferences would Cal Tech be competitive, with at least a .500 won-loss record in conference play!
Their main problem is pitching and pitching depth.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on April 10, 2018, 11:39:58 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on April 10, 2018, 11:34:10 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 10, 2018, 09:15:21 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 10, 2018, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 08, 2018, 05:12:32 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on April 08, 2018, 03:38:01 PM
Assuming Cal Tech goes winless, the percentage of paths through the remainder of the season that results in each team making the conference tournament are:
Redlands: 98%
PP: 89%
La Verne: 89%
Oxy: 65%
Chapman: 43%
Whittier: 12%
CMC: 3%
CLU: 2%

Of course, not all paths are equally likely, but this gives some idea about who is going to need help and how much they will need.

Presuming Cal Tech will go winless is not conducive to Cal Tech going winless...

The days to assume CalTech will go winless are behind us.
I have wondered in how many conferences would Cal Tech be competitive, with at least a .500 won-loss record in conference play!
Their main problem is pitching and pitching depth.

Are you suggesting that pitchers aren't smart enough to get into Caltech? :o

I always heard it was catchers that wore the tools of ignorance. ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 11, 2018, 08:35:26 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on April 10, 2018, 11:39:58 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on April 10, 2018, 11:34:10 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 10, 2018, 09:15:21 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 10, 2018, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 08, 2018, 05:12:32 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on April 08, 2018, 03:38:01 PM
Assuming Cal Tech goes winless, the percentage of paths through the remainder of the season that results in each team making the conference tournament are:
Redlands: 98%
PP: 89%
La Verne: 89%
Oxy: 65%
Chapman: 43%
Whittier: 12%
CMC: 3%
CLU: 2%

Of course, not all paths are equally likely, but this gives some idea about who is going to need help and how much they will need.

Presuming Cal Tech will go winless is not conducive to Cal Tech going winless...

The days to assume CalTech will go winless are behind us.
I have wondered in how many conferences would Cal Tech be competitive, with at least a .500 won-loss record in conference play!
Their main problem is pitching and pitching depth.

Are you suggesting that pitchers aren't smart enough to get into Caltech? :o

I always heard it was catchers that wore the tools of ignorance. ;D
Bob Boone was accepted to USC Medical School but chose a career in baseball.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on April 11, 2018, 04:08:39 PM
I wasn't questioning their intelligence, just their numbers.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 13, 2018, 02:46:14 AM
Quote from: Gray Fox on April 10, 2018, 11:34:10 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 10, 2018, 09:15:21 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 10, 2018, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 08, 2018, 05:12:32 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on April 08, 2018, 03:38:01 PM
Assuming Cal Tech goes winless, the percentage of paths through the remainder of the season that results in each team making the conference tournament are:
Redlands: 98%
PP: 89%
La Verne: 89%
Oxy: 65%
Chapman: 43%
Whittier: 12%
CMC: 3%
CLU: 2%

Of course, not all paths are equally likely, but this gives some idea about who is going to need help and how much they will need.

Presuming Cal Tech will go winless is not conducive to Cal Tech going winless...

The days to assume CalTech will go winless are behind us.
I have wondered in how many conferences would Cal Tech be competitive, with at least a .500 won-loss record in conference play!
Their main problem is pitching and pitching depth.

The previous CalTech head coach thought this was true.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 14, 2018, 09:24:17 AM
Good game between La Verne and Pomona yesterday but the rest were stinkers.  I think there will be a few sweeps this weekend and the standings will really start to take shape for the top 4.  I don't think I am going too far out on a limb by saying the SCIAC Tourney will be Redlands, Pomona, Chapman and La Verne but I really don't know what order it will be in.

The Poets only need 1 more win to guarantee a winning record, something they have struggled with over the past 10-12 years.  They have played some solid baseball lately and I know one person on here who is happy to see it.

CMS started out pretty hot but they have been getting pummeled lately.  Their pitching has really struggled and it's tough to win games when you give up as many runs as they have.

On the flip-side of CMS, it's really hard to win games if you fail to score more than a few runs a game like Cal Lu.  If you take away the 13 runs they scored in game 1 last week, they have scored 14 runs over 6 games.  This team is probably the worst situational hitting team I have ever seen at Cal Lu and I just hope they can win 4 more game to avoid being the first Cal Lu team in the past 30 years to not finish with a winning record.

Enjoy the last few weeks.  I have my thoughts on who will win the SCIAC tourney but I'll wait a bit to talk abut that.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 15, 2018, 10:34:00 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 14, 2018, 09:24:17 AM
Good game between La Verne and Pomona yesterday but the rest were stinkers.  I think there will be a few sweeps this weekend and the standings will really start to take shape for the top 4.  I don't think I am going too far out on a limb by saying the SCIAC Tourney will be Redlands, Pomona, Chapman and La Verne but I really don't know what order it will be in.

The Poets only need 1 more win to guarantee a winning record, something they have struggled with over the past 10-12 years.  They have played some solid baseball lately and I know one person on here who is happy to see it.

CMS started out pretty hot but they have been getting pummeled lately.  Their pitching has really struggled and it's tough to win games when you give up as many runs as they have.

On the flip-side of CMS, it's really hard to win games if you fail to score more than a few runs a game like Cal Lu.  If you take away the 13 runs they scored in game 1 last week, they have scored 14 runs over 6 games.  This team is probably the worst situational hitting team I have ever seen at Cal Lu and I just hope they can win 4 more game to avoid being the first Cal Lu team in the past 30 years to not finish with a winning record.

Enjoy the last few weeks.  I have my thoughts on who will win the SCIAC tourney but I'll wait a bit to talk abut that.

Not gonna lie, Whittier being on the winning side of the ledger is pretty sweet to see.  But this team is not looking to settle for that...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 15, 2018, 10:51:04 AM
First time this season - Sweep Weekend in the SCIAC
La Verne over Pomona
Redlands over Oxy
Chapman over CMS
Whittier over Cal Tech

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 15, 2018, 12:11:11 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 15, 2018, 10:51:04 AM
First time this season - Sweep Weekend in the SCIAC
La Verne over Pomona
Redlands over Oxy
Chapman over CMS
Whittier over Cal Tech

Only one that surprised me was Pomona getting swept by La Verne.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 18, 2018, 02:49:28 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 15, 2018, 12:11:11 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 15, 2018, 10:51:04 AM
First time this season - Sweep Weekend in the SCIAC
La Verne over Pomona
Redlands over Oxy
Chapman over CMS
Whittier over Cal Tech

Only one that surprised me was Pomona getting swept by La Verne.

Yeah that is uh.... not ideal.

Went into the weekend tied with ULV, you have to pick up at least a game in that situation. Especially given that they still have to play Redlands.

Silver lining is that they pulled out an insane win Sunday against Pac Lu to get some momentum back and are facing Oxy after they just had a rough 0-3 weekend themselves.

Check out the PP-PLU box score: http://www.sagehens.com/sports/bsb/2017-18/boxscores/20180415_zopk.xml (http://www.sagehens.com/sports/bsb/2017-18/boxscores/20180415_zopk.xml), especially the ninth and tenth innings.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 18, 2018, 03:05:23 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 18, 2018, 02:49:28 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 15, 2018, 12:11:11 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 15, 2018, 10:51:04 AM
First time this season - Sweep Weekend in the SCIAC
La Verne over Pomona
Redlands over Oxy
Chapman over CMS
Whittier over Cal Tech

Only one that surprised me was Pomona getting swept by La Verne.

Yeah that is uh.... not ideal.

Went into the weekend tied with ULV, you have to pick up at least a game in that situation. Especially given that they still have to play Redlands.

Silver lining is that they pulled out an insane win Sunday against Pac Lu to get some momentum back and are facing Oxy after they just had a rough 0-3 weekend themselves.

Check out the PP-PLU box score: http://www.sagehens.com/sports/bsb/2017-18/boxscores/20180415_zopk.xml (http://www.sagehens.com/sports/bsb/2017-18/boxscores/20180415_zopk.xml), especially the ninth and tenth innings.

It's too bad the video ends in the 9th inning.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mike Lehman on April 22, 2018, 04:06:25 PM
April 22, 2018

Redlands and La Verne have secured 2 of the 4 spots for the SCIAC tournament. Last 2 spots will be decided next weekend.

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2017-18/standings

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 22, 2018, 09:36:57 PM
Hell did not quite freeze over yesterday, but it experienced a significant drop in temperature as Whittier pulled to within a game of 4th position in the SCIAC standings.  Had the Poets been able to complete the sweep vs CMS they would have jumped into 4th over Chapman by virtue of the tiebreaker.

None of that matters until the final count comes in next weekend, and the Poets certainly have a task in front of them with La Verne...but WC playing meaningful games the last week of the season is really them playing with house money at this point; the only expectations this team has is to play hard, have fun, and see what happens.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 22, 2018, 09:43:07 PM
Tiebreaker
Whittier over Chapman

Pomona over Whittier
Pomona over Chapman

Oxy over Pomona
Oxy over Whittier

Chapman and Oxy play next weekend
Pomona plays Redlands
Whittier plays La Verne
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 22, 2018, 11:58:46 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 22, 2018, 09:43:07 PM
Tiebreaker
Whittier over Chapman

Pomona over Whittier
Pomona over Chapman

Oxy over Pomona
Oxy over Whittier

Chapman and Oxy play next weekend
Pomona plays Redlands
Whittier plays La Verne

As crazy as it seems, there is another purple team that can sneak it's way into the 4th seed.  It would take a sweep over CMS and a lot of help up top, but crazier things have happened.  The one negative is they only have a tie-breaker with Pomona and Oxy.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 23, 2018, 12:08:01 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 22, 2018, 11:58:46 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 22, 2018, 09:43:07 PM
Tiebreaker
Whittier over Chapman
Whittier over Cal Lu

Pomona over Whittier
Pomona over Chapman

Oxy over Pomona
Oxy over Whittier

Cal Lu over Pomona
Cal Lu over Oxy

Chapman over Cal Lu

Chapman and Oxy play next weekend
Pomona plays Redlands
Whittier plays La Verne
Cal Lu plays CMS

As crazy as it seems, there is another purple team that can sneak it's way into the 4th seed.  It would take a sweep over CMS and a lot of help up top, but crazier things have happened.  The one negative is they only have a tie-breaker with Pomona and Oxy.
Fixed it.

My bad, should never have overlooked CLU.  In my excitement for the Poets’ current position, I did not look there...no disrespect intended.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 23, 2018, 11:06:56 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 23, 2018, 12:08:01 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 22, 2018, 11:58:46 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 22, 2018, 09:43:07 PM
Tiebreaker
Whittier over Chapman
Whittier over Cal Lu

Pomona over Whittier
Pomona over Chapman

Oxy over Pomona
Oxy over Whittier

Cal Lu over Pomona
Cal Lu over Oxy

Chapman over Cal Lu

Chapman and Oxy play next weekend
Pomona plays Redlands
Whittier plays La Verne
Cal Lu plays CMS

As crazy as it seems, there is another purple team that can sneak it's way into the 4th seed.  It would take a sweep over CMS and a lot of help up top, but crazier things have happened.  The one negative is they only have a tie-breaker with Pomona and Oxy.
Fixed it.

My bad, should never have overlooked CLU.  In my excitement for the Poets' current position, I did not look there...no disrespect intended.

+1 for fixing
+2 for "my bad" admission
+3 for excitement regarding Poets

Total = +6
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on April 23, 2018, 11:30:42 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 22, 2018, 11:58:46 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 22, 2018, 09:43:07 PM
Tiebreaker
Whittier over Chapman

Pomona over Whittier
Pomona over Chapman

Oxy over Pomona
Oxy over Whittier

Chapman and Oxy play next weekend
Pomona plays Redlands
Whittier plays La Verne

As crazy as it seems, there is another purple team that can sneak it's way into the 4th seed.  It would take a sweep over CMS and a lot of help up top, but crazier things have happened.  The one negative is they only have a tie-breaker with Pomona and Oxy.
I was more than surprised to hear this... but it ends up being Mathematically accurate.

"So you're saying there's a chance"!!
CLU sweeps CMS (leaving CLU 13-11)
Redlands win at least 2 of 3 from Pomona (leaving Pomona 13-11)
Chapman win at least 1 of 3 from Occi (leaving Occi 13-11)
Laverne win at least 2 of 3 from Whittier (leaving Whittier 12-12)

My assumption is that if CLU has individual tiebreaker over Pomona and Occi, they would have tiebreaker in 3 way tie.
And, IF Redlands, Chapman and Laverne all do better than the above... it opens up CLU to also end up in 3 way tie breaker with 12 losses with one loss to CMS.

As far as those that have clinched:
- Redlands and Laverne should both be motivated to win first place and home field in playoffs..  They are tied heading into this weekend; with Laverne having the tie breaker.



Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 24, 2018, 07:01:42 PM
Previewing the upcoming SCIAC Weekend Series'

CLU v CMS: CLU playing for their playoff lives; CMS playing to say they beat the defending Champs

Redlands v Pomona:  Redlands playing for Home Field advantage; Pomona playing for their playoff lives

Chapman v Oxy:  Both playing for their playoff lives

La Verne v Whittier:  La Verne playing for Home Field advantage; Whittier playing for their playoff lives
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 28, 2018, 09:50:11 PM
SCIAC Tournament is all set.

1. La Verne
2. Redlands
3. Chapman
4. Pomona

Pomona comes in going 2-8 in their last 10 and they really benefited from Cal Lu failing to win 2/3 from CMS. 
Chapman has been playing really well lately but I feel like Cosby as a starter is their only weakness right now. 
La Verne is nothing fancy, just a bunch of grinders. 
Redlands will go as far as their starting pitching goes.  Redlands has spit almost 70% of their innings between 4 arms.  If any of their starters get in trouble it will be really tough on them. 

Cal Lu showed you can go far with a little bit of pitching, but I don't think many schools will try and go that route.

I would say the tourney is pretty even in the top 3, with Pomona just being happy to be there.  Tough day for a lot of seniors out there, with their careers coming to an end.  Hope they all do all in their post-baseball life.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 30, 2018, 11:52:58 AM
Proud of the Poets' season.  They battled to the end but could not overtake La Verne.  I am especially proud of how they finished...In Game 3, having lost the first 2 games of the series (and knowing they were eliminated from 4th place contention), La Verne erupted for 7 1st inning runs.  Whittier was clearly shell shocked.  They could have packed it in and nobody would have given it much thought other than "that's Whittier".  La Verne needed this game because they were battling for Home Field advantage, they would not be taking their foot off the gas.  The Leos were thinking Mercy Rule (most everyone in the stands sure were).

But these Whittier young men had something different in them.  They clawed back over the next 6 innings and made it a 7-6 game.  Whittier had two cracks with the tying run on first in the 8th, but could not breakthrough.  La Verne was clearly the better team, well deserving of their SCIAC Title.

The Whittier performance in Game 3 showed character and grit.  I see that as a tribute to the Coaches and Seniors, and the way the whole team believed in each other and played for one another.  This team sacked up and battled toe to toe every game.  They weren't always the most talented team on the field, but they often got more out of their talent than their opponents.

To paraphrase the good Doctor:  I may be a bit sad it's over, but I am really glad it happened!

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 30, 2018, 11:56:29 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 28, 2018, 09:50:11 PM
SCIAC Tournament is all set.

1. La Verne
2. Redlands
3. Chapman
4. Pomona

Pomona comes in going 2-8 in their last 10 and they really benefited from Cal Lu failing to win 2/3 from CMS. 
Chapman has been playing really well lately but I feel like Cosby as a starter is their only weakness right now. 
La Verne is nothing fancy, just a bunch of grinders. 
Redlands will go as far as their starting pitching goes.  Redlands has spit almost 70% of their innings between 4 arms.  If any of their starters get in trouble it will be really tough on them. 

Cal Lu showed you can go far with a little bit of pitching, but I don't think many schools will try and go that route.

I would say the tourney is pretty even in the top 3, with Pomona just being happy to be there.  Tough day for a lot of seniors out there, with their careers coming to an end.  Hope they all do all in their post-baseball life.

Pomona certainly backed their way into the tournament. All four teams clamoring for the fourth tournament spot dropped both games of their doubleheaders on Saturday (most surprisingly CLU to CMS), and that gave the Hens the spot.

As you said, La Verne is a bunch of grinders, and I think Redlands must be miffed to have to play Chapman in the first round. Certainly Pomona is just happy to be playing this weekend, but they can absolutely make a run if they get some good innings from their starters.

And while it was disappointing for the teams in the middle of the pack to drop so many games this weekend, I think it really solidified Redlands, ULV, and Chapman's places in the regional rankings. Depending on how things work out across the country, there may even be an outside shot at two Pool C bids from the SCIAC. At the least, I think Redlands has to feel fairly confident, and I think Chapman has a strong case if they don't go two and done this weekend. ULV might have a tougher road, but a strong showing could be enough.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 30, 2018, 01:23:20 PM
La Verne should be getting more credit for their SCIAC performance than the RR's have given them...yeah I know SoS and yadda yadda.  ULV took the series from both Redlands and Chapman, swept Pomona and did not lose a SCIAC series.  Other teams came at the SCIAC and most of them took their lumps.  La Verne delivered quite a few lumps to every SCIAC team.  Chapman lost series' to Redlands, La Verne, Pomona, and Whittier.  That's a significant difference.

All of that now goes out the window if the Leos go 2 and a BBQ.

Watch Pomona take it all...and prove everyone wrong.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 30, 2018, 04:29:41 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 30, 2018, 01:23:20 PM
La Verne should be getting more credit for their SCIAC performance than the RR's have given them...yeah I know SoS and yadda yadda.  ULV took the series from both Redlands and Chapman, swept Pomona and did not lose a SCIAC series.  Other teams came at the SCIAC and most of them took their lumps.  La Verne delivered quite a few lumps to every SCIAC team.  Chapman lost series' to Redlands, La Verne, Pomona, and Whittier.  That's a significant difference.

All of that now goes out the window if the Leos go 2 and a BBQ.

Watch Pomona take it all...and prove everyone wrong.
Do you have any insight as to why ULV was swept by UTT in February but came back?  What is different that they won the SCIAC regular season? Getting swept is very difficult to do if you are good.
Thanks
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 30, 2018, 05:52:08 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 30, 2018, 04:29:41 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 30, 2018, 01:23:20 PM
La Verne should be getting more credit for their SCIAC performance than the RR's have given them...yeah I know SoS and yadda yadda.  ULV took the series from both Redlands and Chapman, swept Pomona and did not lose a SCIAC series.  Other teams came at the SCIAC and most of them took their lumps.  La Verne delivered quite a few lumps to every SCIAC team.  Chapman lost series' to Redlands, La Verne, Pomona, and Whittier.  That's a significant difference.

All of that now goes out the window if the Leos go 2 and a BBQ.

Watch Pomona take it all...and prove everyone wrong.
Do you have any insight as to why ULV was swept by UTT in February but came back?  What is different that they won the SCIAC regular season? Getting swept is very difficult to do if you are good.
Thanks

My first qualifier was "most"...clearly understanding that La Verne's early season performance (and the rest of their non-league performance) is not becoming a conference champion.

I think ULV's style of how they handle their pitching needed some time to get settled.  Possibly guys needed to get comfortable and buy into their roles.  Early season trials and tribulations often sow the seeds for later season success.  Perhaps getting their arses kicked in the first series was precisely what they needed to get going...Maybe they had trouble dealing with the long road trip to Texas.  It was in February.

I think good teams need a bit of time to learn how to be "good", even if they have the talent...and sometimes even if they don't.

You know as well as anybody that a team can come together and be greater than the sum of the parts.  I get that sense with La Verne.  I got that sense with Cal Lu last year.  I do not get that with Chapman.  I think that Redlands is pretty darn good with or without that.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 30, 2018, 06:39:12 PM
Only Seniors Michaels and Firth were on that 2015 ULV team that came to the Tyler Regional.

Thanks for the insight on this year's ULV team.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 30, 2018, 08:40:56 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 30, 2018, 06:39:12 PM
Only Seniors Michaels and Firth were on that 2015 ULV team that came to the Tyler Regional.

Thanks for the insight on this year's ULV team.

I think you missed Byrd and Thomas...both key players on the current squad as well.  That's your #3 and #4 spot in the lineup and two pitchers.  Michaels has had a real nice year, but having Thomas hitting in front him certainly helped out.  Byrd came up big in the regional as I recall.  Firth is second on the team in appearances and seems to be someone they rely on in the middle.

The thing with La Verne is that they have no one who has pitched over 65 innings.  If a guy isn't doing the job out comes the hook, even 1 batter, take a seat, son.  They seem quite comfortable now with the committee approach.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: olddog on May 01, 2018, 04:19:25 PM
How does this tournament work this year ? thanks
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 01, 2018, 06:22:02 PM
Quote from: olddog on May 01, 2018, 04:19:25 PM
How does this tournament work this year ? thanks

La Verne hosts Pomona on Friday
Redlands hosts Pomona Chapman on Friday

The 2 losers play 9am at La Verne Sat
The 2 winners play noon(ish) at La Verne Sat
The winner of the days 1st game plays the loser of the days 2nd game at La Verne at 3pm Sat.

Sunday has 2 championship games (if necessary)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on May 02, 2018, 12:47:14 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 01, 2018, 06:22:02 PM
Quote from: olddog on May 01, 2018, 04:19:25 PM
How does this tournament work this year ? thanks

La Verne hosts Pomona on Friday
Redlands hosts Pomona on Friday

The 2 losers play 9am at La Verne Sat
The 2 winners play noon(ish) at La Verne Sat
The winner of the days 1st game plays the loser of the days 2nd game at La Verne at 3pm Sat.

Sunday has 2 championship games (if necessary)

Hmm.... Looks like Pomona will need a lot of pitching.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 02, 2018, 01:56:04 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on May 02, 2018, 12:47:14 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 01, 2018, 06:22:02 PM
Quote from: olddog on May 01, 2018, 04:19:25 PM
How does this tournament work this year ? thanks

La Verne hosts Pomona on Friday
Redlands hosts Pomona on Friday

The 2 losers play 9am at La Verne Sat
The 2 winners play noon(ish) at La Verne Sat
The winner of the days 1st game plays the loser of the days 2nd game at La Verne at 3pm Sat.

Sunday has 2 championship games (if necessary)

Hmm.... Looks like Pomona will need a lot of pitching.


Dang, need to hire an editor before posting.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Skips Soldier on May 03, 2018, 03:56:53 PM
Chapman will win the sciac tournament. If they don't, I will leave the boards forever.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 03, 2018, 04:41:39 PM
Lord, grant me restraint.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 04, 2018, 12:16:44 PM
SCIAC All-Conference Teams announced:

http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2017-18/releases/20180502sroscd (http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2017-18/releases/20180502sroscd)

Congratulations to all honorees...great year for the SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 05, 2018, 12:09:10 AM
I do not see how La Verne can sustain giving up so many runs, the level of pitching they are facing starts to ratchet up at some point.  They will see the newly anointed SCIAC Pitcher of the Year tomorrow. They scored 1 unearned run in 5 innings against Stead last time out, and lost 13-9.  The Leo’s other 8 runs came against the Bulldog bullpen.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 05, 2018, 12:29:27 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on May 05, 2018, 12:09:10 AM
I do not see how La Verne can sustain giving up so many runs, the level of pitching they are facing starts to ratchet up at some point.  They will see the newly anointed SCIAC Pitcher of the Year tomorrow. They scored 1 unearned run in 5 innings against Stead last time out, and lost 13-9.  The Leo's other 8 runs came against the Bulldog bullpen.

Redlands has to be thrilled with how the Pomona/La Verne game went.  Giving up 14 runs in the opener of a tournament does not bode well for your bullpen.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Skips Soldier on May 06, 2018, 09:31:57 PM
https://youtu.be/PVDH3MX4MYI

@PurpleHeys
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 06, 2018, 09:36:30 PM
Skips Soldier.
+1 or +100 if I could but +1 will do for now.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 06, 2018, 09:59:06 PM
What an absolute meltdown of epic proportions by Redlands.  Going into the top of the 7th with a 10-1 lead and your starter working on a 3-hitter, only to make a pitching change and give up 19 runs over the next 9 outs.

Congrats to Chapman, they earned it the hard way by coming out of the losers bracket.

Both of these teams will be in the West Regional and I feel like Chapman will be the #1 seed and Redlands the #3.  I could see TLU making a big jump to the #2 slot or Concordia, if they win next weekend.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: RFB on May 06, 2018, 11:48:42 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 06, 2018, 09:59:06 PM
What an absolute meltdown of epic proportions by Redlands.  Going into the top of the 7th with a 10-1 lead and your starter working on a 3-hitter, only to make a pitching change and give up 19 runs over the next 9 outs.

Congrats to Chapman, they earned it the hard way by coming out of the losers bracket.

Both of these teams will be in the West Regional and I feel like Chapman will be the #1 seed and Redlands the #3.  I could see TLU making a big jump to the #2 slot or Concordia, if they win next weekend.

Shocked to see the score. I was watching the game and Redlands was cruising, but had to log off and go take care of a few things. Checked the score when I got home and could not believe it. Baseball is a crazy game at times.

Congrats to Chapman on a great tournament. Tough way for Redlands to lose, but hopefully the SCIAC gets two teams in for the playoffs.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 07, 2018, 12:27:33 AM
Quote from: Skips Soldier on May 06, 2018, 09:31:57 PM
https://youtu.be/PVDH3MX4MYI

@PurpleHeys

@lil skippy
I, for one, would not have wanted you to have to make good on your "threat".  You are too much fun.

And congrats by the way, that was one helluva turnaround.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 07, 2018, 08:09:58 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 28, 2018, 09:50:11 PM
SCIAC Tournament is all set.

1. La Verne
2. Redlands
3. Chapman
4. Pomona

Pomona comes in going 2-8 in their last 10 and they really benefited from Cal Lu failing to win 2/3 from CMS. 
Chapman has been playing really well lately but I feel like Cosby as a starter is their only weakness right now
La Verne is nothing fancy, just a bunch of grinders. 
Redlands will go as far as their starting pitching goes.  Redlands has spit almost 70% of their innings between 4 arms.  If any of their starters get in trouble it will be really tough on them. 

Cal Lu showed you can go far with a little bit of pitching, but I don't think many schools will try and go that route.

I would say the tourney is pretty even in the top 3, with Pomona just being happy to be there.  Tough day for a lot of seniors out there, with their careers coming to an end.  Hope they all do all in their post-baseball life.

Yeah, about that....great job stepping up by Cosby and great job showing me how wrong I was.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 08, 2018, 08:18:04 PM
All SCIAC Team

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2017-18/releases/20180502sroscd
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 22, 2018, 06:28:41 PM
All-West Region teams for D3Baseball.com and ABCA/Rawlings - well peppered with SCIAC players.  Interesting discrepancies between the two - No La Verne players on the D3 version (which surprised me), also no P-P's; and 4 La Vernies and 2 P-P's on the ABCA version.

http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/all-region/2018/west (http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/all-region/2018/west)

https://www.abca.org/ABCA/Awards/All-Region/NCAA_Div_III/2018.aspx (https://www.abca.org/ABCA/Awards/All-Region/NCAA_Div_III/2018.aspx)

Congratulations to the players.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on June 06, 2018, 08:50:57 PM
Anybody surprised that Cosby and Aguilar were drafted but not Minjarez?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on June 06, 2018, 09:12:58 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on June 06, 2018, 08:50:57 PM
Anybody surprised that Cosby and Aguilar were drafted but not Minjarez?

Not really.  Minjarez was the same pitcher all 4 years, whereas the other two are likely projected in a different way.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on June 07, 2018, 07:48:26 PM
Maybe they came to scout Minjarez and left liking what they saw in Aguilar...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on June 11, 2018, 12:38:47 PM
Drafting a catcher is a good idea, since most teams need several.  I hosted a summer player whose sole ambition was to be come a MLB warmup catcher.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on July 14, 2018, 08:12:54 PM
Decided to check on these guys today while I was looking at other guys who have come through our lives playing with or against my son.

Hugh Smith -- has not played.  Injury? Dunno. He's on active roster.

Ranier Aguilar --  Rookie League -  just 4 AB's in 2 games - no hits yet. 

Christian Cosby -- Rookie League -  14.1 IP, 17 K, 1.26 WHIP,  .236 AVE.  Not bad!

Also, Minjarez signed as a FA with the Padres. Rookie League -   8.2 IP,  9 K, 1.67 WHIP,  .167 AVE.   Also not bad!

Finally, Pomona's Nishioka is in his 2nd season of Milb: 3 games in AA, rest in A: .309 AVE .875 OPS 3 HR.  Not bad at all.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on August 10, 2018, 05:16:55 PM
Looking forward to following this board!  My son is currently deciding between teams in the SCIAC and NWC...my gut says he'll end up in the SCIAC though. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 11, 2018, 05:06:58 AM
Quote from: SoCal OG on August 10, 2018, 05:16:55 PM
Looking forward to following this board!  My son is currently deciding between teams in the SCIAC and NWC...my gut says he'll end up in the SCIAC though.
Welcome to the message boards.  The West Region is the strongest region in D3. Several fans are active on all of the boards.  The NCAA D3 Champion has come from the West Region 4 of the last 6 years. Each conference has had a member win the National Championship.

2013  Linfield (NWC)
2016  Trinity TX (SCAC)
2017  Cal Lutheran (SCIAC)
2018  Texas Tyler (ASC) which defeated Texas Lutheran (SCAC) in the final series.

Enjoy!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on August 11, 2018, 01:01:27 PM
Quote from: SoCal OG on August 10, 2018, 05:16:55 PM
Looking forward to following this board!  My son is currently deciding between teams in the SCIAC and NWC...my gut says he'll end up in the SCIAC though.

Welcome! If you have not already, you might want to check out this thread:

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=8424.0

Also, a few pages back in the thread we're on there is recent rundown of the fields at various schools.  But it occurs to me that this doesn't cover the athletic buildings, which can also have a big impact on a player's experience.

Of the ones I have seen:

Oxy:  meh
P/P:  very nice, close to field
Redlands: ditto
Chapman: outstanding
CMS: outstanding
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on August 12, 2018, 12:05:10 AM
Quote from: MIFDad on August 11, 2018, 01:01:27 PM
Quote from: SoCal OG on August 10, 2018, 05:16:55 PM
Looking forward to following this board!  My son is currently deciding between teams in the SCIAC and NWC...my gut says he'll end up in the SCIAC though.

Welcome! If you have not already, you might want to check out this thread:

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=8424.0

Also, a few pages back in the thread we're on there is recent rundown of the fields at various schools.  But it occurs to me that this doesn't cover the athletic buildings, which can also have a big impact on a player's experience.

Of the ones I have seen:

Oxy:  meh
P/P:  very nice, close to field
Redlands: ditto
Chapman: outstanding
CMS: outstanding

Thanks!  Lots of info to read through!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on August 24, 2018, 12:29:26 AM
Caltech Coach Matthew Mark will be stepping down as he and his wife choose build their family closer to relatives back east.

http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/wlax/2017-18/releases/20180823f2j2je (http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/wlax/2017-18/releases/20180823f2j2je)

Best of luck good sir!

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on August 27, 2018, 02:08:04 PM
I expect that Mark will find an opportunity with plenty of schools near Pittsburgh.

Quote from: Purple Heys on August 24, 2018, 12:29:26 AM
Caltech Coach Matthew Mark will be stepping down as he and his wife choose build their family closer to relatives back east.

http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/wlax/2017-18/releases/20180823f2j2je (http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/wlax/2017-18/releases/20180823f2j2je)

Best of luck good sir!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on September 06, 2018, 11:34:38 AM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on August 27, 2018, 02:08:04 PM
I expect that Mark will find an opportunity with plenty of schools near Pittsburgh.

Quote from: Purple Heys on August 24, 2018, 12:29:26 AM
Caltech Coach Matthew Mark will be stepping down as he and his wife choose build their family closer to relatives back east.

http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/wlax/2017-18/releases/20180823f2j2je (http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/wlax/2017-18/releases/20180823f2j2je)

Best of luck good sir!
I would expect they both would have opportunities.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on September 28, 2018, 07:13:54 PM
Caltech has found their man.

http://www.gocaltech.com/sports/bsb/2018-19/releases/20180928pjlrko (http://www.gocaltech.com/sports/bsb/2018-19/releases/20180928pjlrko)

Congratulations to new Head Coach Kevin Whitehead!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on October 10, 2018, 06:07:56 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on September 28, 2018, 07:13:54 PM
Caltech has found their man.

http://www.gocaltech.com/sports/bsb/2018-19/releases/20180928pjlrko (http://www.gocaltech.com/sports/bsb/2018-19/releases/20180928pjlrko)

Congratulations to new Head Coach Kevin Whitehead!
From Whittier.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on October 25, 2018, 11:08:32 AM
Any teams playing Fall Ball games?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 17, 2019, 03:20:23 PM
Hey, whoever brought this rain with them, get outta here!  We're tryin' to play some baseball here!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 17, 2019, 05:11:11 PM
Hey, how about we trade weather. I live in tropical Ohio.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 19, 2019, 06:12:32 PM
Phew, finally.  Sunny and 75.

What undoubtedly will be recorded in the books as the Great Winter of '19, lasted a grueling, seemingly unending 4 days.  Somehow we made it.

Welcome back baseball. On tap: Alumni games and exhibitions vs. local NAIA and D2s.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 20, 2019, 12:36:56 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on January 19, 2019, 06:12:32 PM
Phew, finally.  Sunny and 75.

What undoubtedly will be recorded in the books as the Great Winter of '19, lasted a grueling, seemingly unending 4 days.  Somehow we made it.

Welcome back baseball. On tap: Alumni games and exhibitions vs. local NAIA and D2s.

Looking forward to another season.  Cal Lu kicked off with an exhibition yesterday against Providence Christian, who is coached by former Cal Lu player Trevor Davidson.  Cal Lu had no issue with this one with a 21-1 victory.  A total of 29 players saw action and a new arm each inning.  Looking forward to seeing how everyone else doesn't in their exhibition games coming up.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 23, 2019, 09:09:23 PM
Interesting to see Chapman lose their (arguably) top arm from last year...

https://cbulancers.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=6417
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 24, 2019, 06:40:28 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on January 23, 2019, 09:09:23 PM
Interesting to see Chapman lose their (arguably) top arm from last year...

https://cbulancers.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=6417
Looks like he graduated. Roster has him as a grad student. Must of had eligibility left.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 24, 2019, 07:48:29 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on January 24, 2019, 06:40:28 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on January 23, 2019, 09:09:23 PM
Interesting to see Chapman lose their (arguably) top arm from last year...

https://cbulancers.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=6417
Looks like he graduated. Roster has him as a grad student. Must of had eligibility left.

Of course.  I just look at it as it's not the most common thing in the D3 world to go from a D3 to D1 for your last year of eligibility instead of staying where you were.  Tough loss for Chapman.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 24, 2019, 05:35:55 PM
Good for the kid.  Chapman will be fine, I expect.  Still have experienced arms...probably one of the few schools that could withstand that sort of thing (losing 2 junior starters for their senior year), even though it does seem to pull them back toward the middle - on paper, at least.

Who was hit hardest by graduation?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 25, 2019, 12:21:07 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on January 24, 2019, 05:35:55 PM

Who was hit hardest by graduation?

I would say Redlands.  They lose 38 starts on the mound, their catcher, 2 starters in the IF, all 3 starters in the outfield.  I am sure the guys stepping in are pretty solid players but they are going to be very young.

I think the SCIAC is WIDE open this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 25, 2019, 02:14:43 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on January 25, 2019, 12:21:07 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on January 24, 2019, 05:35:55 PM

Who was hit hardest by graduation?

I would say Redlands.  They lose 38 starts on the mound, their catcher, 2 starters in the IF, all 3 starters in the outfield.  I am sure the guys stepping in are pretty solid players but they are going to be very young.

I think the SCIAC is WIDE open this year.

They have not posted the 2019 roster so I wasn’t sure...but I agree with that assessment.  They have a lot of shoes to fill.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on January 30, 2019, 12:44:04 PM
It is with heavy heart that I relay the final score of the Pomona-Pitzer alumni game: the current team beat the old guys 10-3 and 11-3. This snaps a two year winning streak for the old guys, despite a starting lineup that included 6 former SCIAC MVPs and too many All-Conference/All-Regions to count.

Current Red Sox prospect Tanner Nishioka PO '17 (named a 2018 soxprospects.com All-Star after a fantastic year in Greenville slashing .322/.398/.511 with 11 HRs) hit a ball off the wall but couldn't manage to get it over of Pomona's short right field fence. Real impressive with a metal bat kid  ::)
Drew Hedman PO '09 pathetically didn't homer this year for the first time since 2016.
David Gerics PO '17 and David Colvin PI '11 each looked great for an inning before it became clear that they'd traded in their long toss for long island iced teas after their pro careers ended.
James Kang PI '10 didn't bother showing up, as his "job" with the "Red Sox" "forced" him to go to Curacao.
Rays front office nerd Simon Rosenbaum PO '16 continued to be tall, and not much else.
Angels front office nerd Kevin Brice PO '16 didn't look much better but at least reached base.
Erik Munzer's PI '13 chiseled frame ended up being misleading as apparently he only lifts the beach muscles these days (0 for 2). Maybe he should start playing soccer again.
Jose Cortez PI '03, a D3baseball.com 2000's all-decade team member, couldn't be bothered to turn a gapper into a double. Great example for the kids.
Jase Turner PI '04, he of 3 years in the Royals system and on the eve of a PP hall of fame induction, watched from the stands. Maybe that was for the best.
Sam Fox PI '15 looked good until he actually had to field a ground ball.
Zach Mandelblatt PO '09 is 0 for the last 3 years in these games despite being in the best baseball shape of any of the old guys. 
Teddy Bingham PO '11 heroically had an RBI single.

I love alumni weekends.

Anyway - the Pomona team is young. Only one senior this year, but a lot of talent in the class of 2020. Very very deep on the mound. Had 8ish guys throw in an intersquad Friday and still had enough quality arms to shut down some seriously quality bats for two games against the old guys Saturday. Had several guys throwing hard, and some impressive freshman. This may be a PP team that relies more on its pitching than its hitting, which we know has not historically been the case. Looking forward to watching them this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on January 31, 2019, 11:40:27 AM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on January 30, 2019, 12:44:04 PM
It is with heavy heart that I relay the final score of the Pomona-Pitzer alumni game: the current team beat the old guys 10-3 and 11-3. This snaps a two year winning streak for the old guys, despite a starting lineup that included 6 former SCIAC MVPs and too many All-Conference/All-Regions to count.

Current Red Sox prospect Tanner Nishioka PO '17 (named a 2018 soxprospects.com All-Star after a fantastic year in Greenville slashing .322/.398/.511 with 11 HRs) hit a ball of the wall but couldn't manage to get it over of Pomona's short right field fence. Real impressive with a metal bat kid  ::)
Drew Hedman PO '09 pathetically didn't homer this year for the first time since 2016.
David Gerics PO '17 and David Colvin PI '11 each looked great for an inning before it became clear that they'd traded in their for long toss for long island iced teas after their pro careers ended.
James Kang PI '10 didn't bother showing up, as his "job" with the "Red Sox" "forced" him to go to Curacao.
Rays front office nerd Simon Rosenbaum PO '16 continued to be tall, and not much else.
Angels front office nerd Kevin Brice PO '16 didn't look much better but at least reached base.
Erik Munzer's PI '13 chiseled frame ended up being misleading as apparently he only lifts the beach muscles these days (0 for 2). Maybe he should start playing soccer again.
Jose Cortez PI '03, a D3baseball.com 2000's all-decade team member, couldn't be bothered to turn a gapper into a double. Great example for the kids.
Jase Turner PI '04, he of 3 years in the Royals system and on the eve of a PP hall of fame induction, watched from the stands. Maybe that was for the best.
Sam Fox PI '15 looked good until he actually had to field a ground ball.
Zach Mandelblatt PO '09 is 0 for the last 3 years in these games despite being in the best baseball shape of any of the old guys. 
Teddy Bingham PO '11 heroically had an RBI single.

I love alumni weekends.

Anyway - the Pomona team is young. Only one senior this year, but a lot of talent in the class of 2020. Very very deep on the mound. Had 8ish guys throw in an intersquad Friday and still had enough quality arms to shut down some seriously quality bats for two games against the old guys Saturday. Had several guys throwing hard, and some impressive freshman. This may be a PP team that relies more on its pitching than its hitting, which we know has not historically been the case. Looking forward to watching them this year.

Nice recap!  +K
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 31, 2019, 03:43:58 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on January 30, 2019, 12:44:04 PM

Teddy Bingham PO '11 heroically had an RBI single.


;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on January 31, 2019, 09:12:06 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on January 30, 2019, 12:44:04 PM
It is with heavy heart that I relay the final score of the Pomona-Pitzer alumni game: the current team beat the old guys 10-3 and 11-3. This snaps a two year winning streak for the old guys, despite a starting lineup that included 6 former SCIAC MVPs and too many All-Conference/All-Regions to count.

Current Red Sox prospect Tanner Nishioka PO '17 (named a 2018 soxprospects.com All-Star after a fantastic year in Greenville slashing .322/.398/.511 with 11 HRs) hit a ball off the wall but couldn't manage to get it over of Pomona's short right field fence. Real impressive with a metal bat kid  ::)
Drew Hedman PO '09 pathetically didn't homer this year for the first time since 2016.
David Gerics PO '17 and David Colvin PI '11 each looked great for an inning before it became clear that they'd traded in their long toss for long island iced teas after their pro careers ended.
James Kang PI '10 didn't bother showing up, as his "job" with the "Red Sox" "forced" him to go to Curacao.
Rays front office nerd Simon Rosenbaum PO '16 continued to be tall, and not much else.
Angels front office nerd Kevin Brice PO '16 didn't look much better but at least reached base.
Erik Munzer's PI '13 chiseled frame ended up being misleading as apparently he only lifts the beach muscles these days (0 for 2). Maybe he should start playing soccer again.
Jose Cortez PI '03, a D3baseball.com 2000's all-decade team member, couldn't be bothered to turn a gapper into a double. Great example for the kids.
Jase Turner PI '04, he of 3 years in the Royals system and on the eve of a PP hall of fame induction, watched from the stands. Maybe that was for the best.
Sam Fox PI '15 looked good until he actually had to field a ground ball.
Zach Mandelblatt PO '09 is 0 for the last 3 years in these games despite being in the best baseball shape of any of the old guys. 
Teddy Bingham PO '11 heroically had an RBI single.

I love alumni weekends.

Anyway - the Pomona team is young. Only one senior this year, but a lot of talent in the class of 2020. Very very deep on the mound. Had 8ish guys throw in an intersquad Friday and still had enough quality arms to shut down some seriously quality bats for two games against the old guys Saturday. Had several guys throwing hard, and some impressive freshman. This may be a PP team that relies more on its pitching than its hitting, which we know has not historically been the case. Looking forward to watching them this year.

There is some serious talent on that Alumni team.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on February 01, 2019, 12:44:30 PM
Redlands kick off the season, hosting Pacific.  Just one of almost 8,000 games in the 4 month long D-III season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 01, 2019, 06:29:56 PM
Interesting schedule quirk:

Redlands is scheduled for 11 games before opening SCIAC play with Whittier.  Whittier is scheduled to play just 3 prior to the Redlands series.

The Poets have a 12 day gap from their season opener next week vs Willamette to the SCIAC opener.

The Bulldogs will have completed 1/4th of their 2019 schedule by then.  They have a late season 12 day gap between their CLU series and the final series vs. Oxy.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on February 02, 2019, 07:32:38 PM
Preseason poll:

1. Chapman (6) - 76 points
2. La Verne (1) - 68 points
3. Cal Lutheran (1) - 65 points
4. Redlands - 51 points
5. Pomona-Pitzer (1) - 47 points
6. Occidental - 34 points
7. CMS - 33 points
8. Whittier - 22 points
9. Caltech - 9 points

Hard to argue with #1 and #2.  We'll see about #3.  PP looks pretty good to me so...  If  I was a Poet I would not be a happy camper.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 04, 2019, 11:33:31 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 01, 2019, 06:29:56 PM
Interesting schedule quirk:

Redlands is scheduled for 11 games before opening SCIAC play with Whittier.  Whittier is scheduled to play just 3 prior to the Redlands series.

The Poets have a 12 day gap from their season opener next week vs Willamette to the SCIAC opener.

The Bulldogs will have completed 1/4th of their 2019 schedule by then.  They have a late season 12 day gap between their CLU series and the final series vs. Oxy.

Redlands having those 11 games - weather permitting - prior to league opener is either fortuitous scheduling or highly prescient by their coach, given the number of replacements they have to break in.  This gives them ample time to find a combination that works
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 04, 2019, 11:38:51 AM
Quote from: MIFDad on February 02, 2019, 07:32:38 PM
Preseason poll:

8. Whittier - 22 points

If  I was a Poet I would not be a happy camper.

Not like it hasn't happened before.  Flying under the radar has its advantages.  FTP.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Lets Play Two on February 04, 2019, 04:46:18 PM
Nothing new for Whittier.  2018 Coaches Poll had them in 8th with 22 points as well.  Good thing they actually have to play the games!


2018 SCIAC Baseball Preseason Poll
(#) Denotes First Place Votes
1. Cal Lutheran (9) - 81 points
2. Chapman - 68 points
3. Redlands - 63 points
4. La Verne - 48 points
5. Occidental - 43 points
6. Pomona-Pitzer - 42 points
7. CMS - 28 points
8. Whittier - 22 points
9. Caltech - 10 points
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 08, 2019, 08:05:04 PM
Looks like Redlands will take some lumps as they figure out how to fill the graduation holes...now 0-3 in NWC play.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 08, 2019, 08:06:55 PM
Whittier goes toe to toe with preseason NWC favorite Willamette, in a duel of #1 pitching, Bearcats prevail 4-2.  It was tight but Willamette threatened all game long.  Whittier's starter withstood 6 hits, 6 walks and an HBP to keep it close for 7 innings.  He noodled out of a couple bases loaded jams.  The Bearcats pushed runs across on an HBP, a walk, and a SAC Fly.  So Whittier made it a grind...which is going to have to be their M.O.

Whittier will go as far as their starting pitching will carry them which makes games precarious.  Until they can find out where the XBH's will come from, they have to go base to base, so runs won't easily come in bunches.  The big bats graduated...

Looks like they will need to grind every game.  I think they have it in them - but they better have the mental stamina.

2 more to go with Willamette tomorrow - weather permitting
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on February 09, 2019, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 08, 2019, 08:06:55 PM
Whittier goes toe to toe with preseason NWC favorite Willamette, in a duel of #1 pitching, Bearcats prevail 4-2.  It was tight but Willamette threatened all game long.  Whittier's starter withstood 6 hits, 6 walks and an HBP to keep it close for 7 innings.  He noodled out of a couple bases loaded jams.  The Bearcats pushed runs across on an HBP, a walk, and a SAC Fly.  So Whittier made it a grind...which is going to have to be their M.O.

Whittier will go as far as their starting pitching will carry them which makes games precarious.  Until they can find out where the XBH's will come from, they have to go base to base, so runs won't easily come in bunches.  The big bats graduated...

Looks like they will need to grind every game.  I think they have it in them - but they better have the mental stamina.

2 more to go with Willamette tomorrow - weather permitting

I thought Oxy was playing Willamette tomorrow?  I was going to try and go but not sure about weather.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on February 10, 2019, 10:44:44 PM
D3 Preseason poll has Chapman at number 20.

CLU has 31 voting points and Redlands has 7 voting points.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 22, 2019, 12:22:42 PM
Game Day.  Redlands has 10 games in the books, Whittier has 1.  Hard to say if either of these teams has anything fully figured out about themselves, but at least Redlands has had the chance to audition their players.

At 4-6 it is easy to see this team has not been able to pick up and continue last year's success.  A nice win over Concordia (TX) shows what they are capable of just as readily as the 21-11 loss to Texas-Dallas does.

Whittier is totally unknown.  The Willamette game was not enough of a sample size to get where this team is.

Both teams will find things out starting today.

Good luck to all SCIAC teams for 2019!   FTP.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 22, 2019, 08:20:34 PM
Whittier scraps their way to a well-earned 7-3 win at the yard.

Poets play clean on defense, move runners and get timely hitting, taking advantage of 2 Bulldog errors along the way - especially a killer in the 9th.  Solid start on the mound from Baez - good not great, but really good when he needed to be; good enough relief in the 9th.  Pretty much follows their necessary formula for success.  It may be fortuitous WC got this Redlands team early.

This is not last year's UofR team by a long shot, but that is not a Whittier problem.  Bulldogs still have the look of a team figuring things out
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 23, 2019, 10:52:49 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 22, 2019, 08:20:34 PM
Whittier scraps their way to a well-earned 7-3 win at the yard.

Poets play clean on defense, move runners and get timely hitting, taking advantage of 2 Bulldog errors along the way - especially a killer in the 9th.  Solid start on the mound from Baez - good not great, but really good when he needed to be; good enough relief in the 9th.  Pretty much follows their necessary formula for success.  It may be fortuitous WC got this Redlands team early.

This is not last year's UofR team by a long shot, but that is not a Whittier problem.  Bulldogs still have the look of a team figuring things out

Good win for the Poets, especially after being out for only the second time.  Baez looks to give them a good chance each Friday and it showed yesterday.  Redlands is going to hit, but he held them to 7 singles, which is something very few pitchers can do.  WC got some timely hits and took advantage of getting Fousek out of the game.  Redlands is in total rebuild mode and will struggle this year, but they have the ability to beat anyone at any time.

Pomona got tested a little by the Beavers but didn't fall victim again.  Unfortunately for Caltech, today might be a little lopsided.

Cal Lu used a few big homers to tie the game with CMS at 3, then had a few clutch hits in the 8th to go up 3.  Good pitching by both teams, with the exception of the 8th inning.

La Verne looks to be firing on al cylinders so far.  After going to Louisiana and taking 3 from Centenary, they came home and snapped off Chapman to start a pretty big series.  A split for La Verne today puts them a leg up down the road.

The SCIAC is very balanced and the days of the 20-4 games on Friday are over.  The typical "bottom feeders" have all improved and are more than capable of beating anyone.  The race for the top 4 will be very tight this year and every game counts.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 23, 2019, 09:38:26 PM
Cal Tech takes a game from P-P, but this feels different...they jumped on the Sagehens at the outset, and although it was close, the Beavers did not let go.  It was also not their #1 starter on the hill - that was Friday and that was a game P-P had to earn.

It's time to seriously consider that Cal Tech has a chance to take a SCIAC series this season.

Get ready for a fun season in the SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 24, 2019, 09:12:03 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on February 23, 2019, 09:38:26 PM
Cal Tech takes a game from P-P, but this feels different...they jumped on the Sagehens at the outset, and although it was close, the Beavers did not let go.  It was also not their #1 starter on the hill - that was Friday and that was a game P-P had to earn.

It's time to seriously consider that Cal Tech has a chance to take a SCIAC series this season.

Get ready for a fun season in the SCIAC.
The shot heard around the world the SCIAC.

Now P-P has to win "another" game!

The OAC board talks about the number of games that a team must win to make the 4-team playoffs. That is a 10-team conference playing 18 conference games. 14 wins gets the #1 seed by conventional wisdom. Sometimes 12 wins earns a playoff bid.

Cal Tech just threw that argument back onto the table for SCIAC fans to consider.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 24, 2019, 12:57:47 PM
No sweeps this weekend and some really, really good pitching performances.

Tim Turpen from Whittier goes 7.1 and gives up 2 hits in the 2-0 win over Redlands
Andrew Rueter goes 8, giving up 5 hits and 2 runs coming off a 2-run bomb in the 2-0 loss to Whittier
Justin Hull from Claremont goes 8 while giving up only 3 hits, 0 walks, and 6 k's in the 4-1 win over Cal Lu
Mason Collins from Chapman goes 7 and scatters 8 hits with 0 earned runs in the 7-1 win over La Verne

I am sure there were others but these 3 really stood out. Clean weekend of baseball in the SCIAC with very close games and no blowouts.  Shaping up to be a very competitive year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on February 25, 2019, 10:45:21 AM
Looking fwd to seeing Oxy play some conference games!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 25, 2019, 11:20:42 AM
Quote from: SoCal OG on February 25, 2019, 10:45:21 AM
Looking fwd to seeing Oxy play some conference games!

Oxy has a veteran squad, lots of returning pitching and the bulk of their lineup returning.  I will be surprised if they are not in the top 4 mix at the end of this.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 28, 2019, 04:48:54 PM
Interesting trip for Castleton. Squeaked out a win over Whitworth, dropped a close pair to Oxy, gets crushed by Pomona, drops one to Caltech....then beats Chapman. Just goes to show how unpredictable baseball can be.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 01, 2019, 12:15:22 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 28, 2019, 04:48:54 PM
Interesting trip for Castleton. Squeaked out a win over Whitworth, dropped a close pair to Oxy, gets crushed by Pomona, drops one to Caltech....then beats Chapman. Just goes to show how unpredictable baseball can be.

I cannot figure it out either.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 01, 2019, 10:46:41 PM
Nice to see CLU defeat Texas Lutheran today, improving to 5-1 against non-SCIAC Western Regional Teams.
Coach Slimak has done a good job of scheduling and winning West Regional games, which can only help during tournament selection time.

Taken from the teams website:
As a whole, Cal Lutheran out-hit Texas Lutheran nine to five, led by Wright's second consecutive 3-for-4 game. The infielder currently leads the team, hitting .464 (13-for-28) with a .514 on-base percentage.

The win over 2018's Division III World Series competitors moves the Kingsmen to 7-2 overall. The team now plays Drew (NJ) and Greensboro 2x.


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on March 04, 2019, 03:36:41 PM
No sweeps yet in SCIAC play. Most teams have been doing pretty well in non-con, and it looks like it'll shape up to be a competitive conference race.

PP has been lead by its juniors so far this year:
SS Nolan McCafferty (.368/.415/.500),
CF Brian Knapp (.429/.500/.743),
DH Jeremy Jess (.412/.450/.676),
C Jack Hanley (.310/.459/.483), and
SP Tyler Yoshihara (2-0, 3.71 ERA).

Only one senior on the team, so this is a good year for development. But they're playing well enough that they can definitely make a run at a conference title. They've had five different pitchers start games (obviously important for tournament time), and have had a few pitchers struggle who I knew will be dangerous once they get some more innings under their belts.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 06, 2019, 07:04:08 PM
Lots of cancellations on the schedule with teams travelling across the country to get games in "Sunny" SoCal.

That's a tough break on both sides of the equation.  These are games that can't be made up.  I wonder if the SCIAC is going to allow fill-in games between SCIAC opponents that do not count against league standings so our teams can get a full 40 game schedule.  I wonder if the coaches see any value to that.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 08, 2019, 11:52:31 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 06, 2019, 07:04:08 PM
Lots of cancellations on the schedule with teams travelling across the country to get games in "Sunny" SoCal.

That's a tough break on both sides of the equation.  These are games that can't be made up.  I wonder if the SCIAC is going to allow fill-in games between SCIAC opponents that do not count against league standings so our teams can get a full 40 game schedule.  I wonder if the coaches see any value to that.

The can also pick up games vs GSAC opponents as well as local D2 programs. Games are games and you want your kids to play as much as they can before the post-season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 08, 2019, 12:31:44 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 08, 2019, 11:52:31 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 06, 2019, 07:04:08 PM
Lots of cancellations on the schedule with teams travelling across the country to get games in "Sunny" SoCal.

That's a tough break on both sides of the equation.  These are games that can't be made up.  I wonder if the SCIAC is going to allow fill-in games between SCIAC opponents that do not count against league standings so our teams can get a full 40 game schedule.  I wonder if the coaches see any value to that.

The can also pick up games vs GSAC opponents as well as local D2 programs. Games are games and you want your kids to play as much as they can before the post-season.

This is why they put a limit on the number of games played and practice time.  The more you practice, the more you play, the better team you are.  Marietta has the most 60 game seasons.  This record made me pause - 29 appearances in an inning - ouch.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 15, 2019, 02:34:07 PM
This should be a revealing weekend for both Chapman and Cal Lu as they engage their 3 game set today.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 15, 2019, 04:56:30 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 15, 2019, 02:34:07 PM
This should be a revealing weekend for both Chapman and Cal Lu as they engage their 3 game set today.

I have a feeling I know what will be revealed.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 15, 2019, 10:58:06 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 15, 2019, 04:56:30 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 15, 2019, 02:34:07 PM
This should be a revealing weekend for both Chapman and Cal Lu as they engage their 3 game set today.

I have a feeling I know what will be revealed.

Shows what I know. Complete whooping by Cal Lu. We will see what happens tomorrow up in T.O.
Z.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 17, 2019, 11:36:42 PM
I imagine we can scratch Cal Lu off the Pretender List.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 18, 2019, 08:55:22 PM
On tap for next weekend in the SCIAC

Chapman, after dropping 2 of 3 to CLU, looks to rebound versus Redlands.  The degree of difficulty now ratchets up for the Bulldogs, who evened their SCIAC mark vs CMS 2 weeks ago.

CLU looks to ride some momentum against Pomona, who despite their annual loss to Caltech early, have shown that they have a thing or two to say in the SCIAC race.

Oxy takes on Jekyll/Hyde CMS - Oxy swept Whittier last week and looked solid doing it.  CMS provides that, will they or won't they, mystery to every game.  50/50 as to whether CMS implodes or explodes on Oxy.  You can bet Oxy is thinking another sweep, but can't get caught looking ahead to Chapman.

LaVerne get Caltech - Common opponent P-P took 2 of 3 from each.  Caltech looking for a 2nd conference win, LaVerne looking to get jump-started back into the race with a sweep.

Whittier is on their roadie to Oregon and play 6 games in 4 days against the top half of the NWC, which features a double-double on Friday/Saturday.  Whew!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 19, 2019, 08:21:27 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 17, 2019, 11:36:42 PM
I imagine we can scratch Cal Lu off the Pretender List.

CLU record against non-SCIAC West Region teams is 5-1:

Univ Texas-Dallas         8-5
Whitman                     4-1
George Fox                 5-20
Whitworth                   6-2
Texas Lutheran            4-2
Puget Sound               16-11

This could definitely come into play during selection season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 19, 2019, 10:19:47 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 19, 2019, 08:21:27 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 17, 2019, 11:36:42 PM
I imagine we can scratch Cal Lu off the Pretender List.

CLU record against non-SCIAC West Region teams is 5-1:

Univ Texas-Dallas         8-5
Whitman                     4-1
George Fox                 5-20
Whitworth                   6-2
Texas Lutheran            4-2
Puget Sound               16-11

This could definitely come into play during selection season.
I can imagine these teams being regionally ranked, with Whitman or Whitworth from the NWC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 22, 2019, 04:23:00 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 18, 2019, 08:55:22 PM
On tap for next weekend in the SCIAC

Chapman, after dropping 2 of 3 to CLU, looks to rebound versus Redlands.  The degree of difficulty now ratchets up for the Bulldogs, who evened their SCIAC mark vs CMS 2 weeks ago.

CLU looks to ride some momentum against Pomona, who despite their annual loss to Caltech early, have shown that they have a thing or two to say in the SCIAC race.

Oxy takes on Jekyll/Hyde CMS - Oxy swept Whittier last week and looked solid doing it.  CMS provides that, will they or won't they, mystery to every game.  50/50 as to whether CMS implodes or explodes on Oxy.  You can bet Oxy is thinking another sweep, but can't get caught looking ahead to Chapman.

LaVerne get Caltech - Common opponent P-P took 2 of 3 from each.  Caltech looking for a 2nd conference win, LaVerne looking to get jump-started back into the race with a sweep.

Whittier is on their roadie to Oregon and play 6 games in 4 days against the top half of the NWC, which features a double-double on Friday/Saturday.  Whew!

It will be interesting to see how some of the SCIAC teams do against each other. I just checked out the SOS tab on here and holy crap, some of the SCIAC schools have no other shot without winning the tourney.

Very interested to see how Chapman responds and how the P-P/CLU series plays out.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conferen
Post by: Purple Heys on March 23, 2019, 11:02:40 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 18, 2019, 08:55:22 PM
On tap for next weekend in the SCIAC

Chapman, after dropping 2 of 3 to CLU, looks to rebound versus Redlands.  The degree of difficulty now ratchets up for the Bulldogs, who evened their SCIAC mark vs CMS 2 weeks ago.

CLU looks to ride some momentum against Pomona, who despite their annual loss to Caltech early, have shown that they have a thing or two to say in the SCIAC race.

Oxy takes on Jekyll/Hyde CMS - Oxy swept Whittier last week and looked solid doing it.  CMS provides that, will they or won't they, mystery to every game.  50/50 as to whether CMS implodes or explodes on Oxy.  You can bet Oxy is thinking another sweep, but can't get caught looking ahead to Chapman.

LaVerne get Caltech - Common opponent P-P took 2 of 3 from each.  Caltech looking for a 2nd conference win, LaVerne looking to get jump-started back into the race with a sweep.

Whittier is on their roadie to Oregon and play 6 games in 4 days against the top half of the NWC, which features a double-double on Friday/Saturday.  Whew!

That was the weekend that was...interesting.

Chapman rebounds to sweep Redlands.  Not too surprising.

Cal Lu wins wire to wire in the first two, comes back in G3 to sweep P-P.  A bit of a surprise and in so doing gains early separation along with Chapman in the SCIAC race.  Parkman still trying figure how they are doing this...

CMS explodes on Saturday to sweep the DH from Oxy, earning the series win and knocks the Tigers down a peg (or two).  Oxy gets Chapman next, and we get to see which CMS team shows against Whittier.

Cal Tech takes another step toward being a problem for everybody, taking G3 from La Verne.  The Beavers have to be considered a real threat to take a series this year, not just steal a game.  They now set their sights on breaking their conference win record.   La Verne might need this game later...the race could come down to who did not lose to Cal Tech this season.

Whittier remains something of an enigma, but going 4-2 in 4 days over the top 3rd (currently) of the NWC is a good look.  A lineup shuffle seems to have the team generating more hits and run scoring chances.  Pitching and defense still the keys to their success.  Critical series vs CMS next week.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 23, 2019, 11:38:57 PM
I believe that top to bottom, the SCIAC is a tougher baseball conference than the NEWMAC.

That being said, I am looking forward to the time that MIT comes west for a series against the Beavers.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on March 24, 2019, 09:58:27 AM
MIT has 6 games against SCIAC teams starting today. But no Caltech!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 24, 2019, 12:00:08 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 23, 2019, 11:38:57 PM
I believe that top to bottom, the SCIAC is a tougher baseball conference than the NEWMAC.

That being said, I am looking forward to the time that MIT comes west for a series against the Beavers.

Regardless of their ultra-high admission standards, I think MIT has significant advantages over Cal Tech athletics-wise...MIT has 4x the enrollment and fields a football team (FYI Cal Tech fielded a club football team in the 80’s).  They seem to emphasize athletics to a measure Cal Tech does not.  Cal Tech claims more exclusive enrollment as well.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 29, 2019, 04:01:50 PM
With a majority of the non-conference games wrapping up, the SCIAC will start to take shape over the next handful of weekends. 

The big series this weekend is Chapman and Oxy.  Oxy just dropped 2/3 to CMS and Chapman swept Redlands.  Oxy started off great but got knocked around last weekend by the jekyll & hyde CMS squad.  This should be a great series but don't expect any write-ups on any games Oxy may lose.  Their SID writes a bunch of junk when they win but falls silent when they don't.....that is all I will say on that one.

Redlands and Pomona battle it out to see who still hangs on in the race for the top 4.  I have a feeling this will be a very offensive series.

Cal Lu is coming off a sweep of Pomona but got snapped yesterday.  Taking Caltech lightly is the last thing these guys should do as the Beavers have shown they can, and will, win against the SCIAC.

Whittier is coming off a fantastic trip to Oregon where they played 6 games (winning 4), which is almost unheard of for the SCIAC.  Whittier has only played 6 SCIAC games so far and can really help themselves out this weekend with a series win, especially a sweep.

La Verne is hosting New Rochelle (and currently destroying  them) and Lewis & Clark before a huge series next weekend with Cal Lu.

Enjoy the weekend.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 31, 2019, 01:12:40 AM
Good weekend in the SCIAC for some teams, bad weekend for some, and really bad for others.

Cal Lu is the latest team to fall victim to Caltech and they did it after putting up 21 runs in the first game.  Caltech didn't squeak this game out, they flat out dominated in every phase of the game.  Each SCIAC win for the Beavers over the past few years have been very close games but today was a butt-whooping.  Cal Lu did not play well this week and they have to either get it going or their season is going to go down the toilet in a hurry.  Tip of the cap to the Beavers.

The big series (in my mind) was Chapman/Oxy and it was a great weekend for the Panthers.  Oxy had a 4-1 lead in the 7th on Friday and booted the game away late.  Going back to Eagle Rock today was not kind as Chapman knocked the Oxy pitching all over the place.  Oxy is on a 5 game slide and have given up 46 runs over those 5 games after putting up very strong numbers in the mound up to this point.

Redlands gets right back in the mix by sweeping a struggling Pomona squad.  A lot of offense in the first two games, and a close game to finish the series.  The walk-off winner in game 3 scored on a wild pitch.  Pomona is on a bad path right now and get a struggling Oxy team next weekend.  Must-win series for both.

Whittier scored late in all three games against CMS, but dropped a pair in the series.  Whittier couldn't find the same magic they had up North last weekend, but they still have some time to make up some ground.  Whittier squares off with Chapman next weekend, a series that is always close.

La Verne won all three of their non-conference games and plays a big series with Cal Lu next week.

Chapman and Cal Lu sit atop the standings at this point with 12 games to go for both.  Cal Lu does hold the tie-breaker but there are so many games left for all teams.  We will see what happens.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 31, 2019, 08:47:26 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 31, 2019, 01:12:40 AM
Good weekend in the SCIAC for some teams, bad weekend for some, and really bad for others.

Cal Lu is the latest team to fall victim to Caltech and they did it after putting up 21 runs in the first game.  Caltech didn't squeak this game out, they flat out dominated in every phase of the game.  Each SCIAC win for the Beavers over the past few years have been very close games but today was a butt-whooping.  Cal Lu did not play well this week and they have to either get it going or their season is going to go down the toilet in a hurry.  Tip of the cap to the Beavers.

The big series (in my mind) was Chapman/Oxy and it was a great weekend for the Panthers.  Oxy had a 4-1 lead in the 7th on Friday and booted the game away late.  Going back to Eagle Rock today was not kind as Chapman knocked the Oxy pitching all over the place.  Oxy is on a 5 game slide and have given up 46 runs over those 5 games after putting up very strong numbers in the mound up to this point.

Redlands gets right back in the mix by sweeping a struggling Pomona squad.  A lot of offense in the first two games, and a close game to finish the series.  The walk-off winner in game 3 scored on a wild pitch.  Pomona is on a bad path right now and get a struggling Oxy team next weekend.  Must-win series for both.

Whittier scored late in all three games against CMS, but dropped a pair in the series.  Whittier couldn't find the same magic they had up North last weekend, but they still have some time to make up some ground.  Whittier squares off with Chapman next weekend, a series that is always close.

La Verne won all three of their non-conference games and plays a big series with Cal Lu next week.

Chapman and Cal Lu sit atop the standings at this point with 12 games to go for both.  Cal Lu does hold the tie-breaker but there are so many games left for all teams.  We will see what happens.

Good recap... thanks JP
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 01, 2019, 03:03:31 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 31, 2019, 01:12:40 AM
Redlands gets right back in the mix by sweeping a struggling Pomona squad.  A lot of offense in the first two games, and a close game to finish the series.  The walk-off winner in game 3 scored on a wild pitch.  Pomona is on a bad path right now and get a struggling Oxy team next weekend.  Must-win series for both.

Was on my way back west from Palm Springs and managed to catch the 9th inning of the last Redlands-Pomona game, and what a crazy inning it was. Redlands had a 3-1 lead after 8.

-Kyle Freeman led of the inning for PP with his first career home run to make it a one-run game.

-Jake Patterson-Kahout singles up the middle. Redlands makes a pitching change.

-Jake Lialios pops up in foul territory down the right field line. Patterson takes a couple hard steps off first to try and coax a throw to second. Right fielder doesn't bite and tries to throw it behind Patterson. First baseman appears to block Patterson's path back to first. Umpires deliberate and give Patterson second base. Redlands head coach goes bonkers. Between all the yelling and three separate umpire deliberations, must have been a 10 minute break in the action. Redlands coach (not very politely) asks to be throw out so he can protest the call and get in the umpire's write up. Umpire is happy to oblige. Honestly, I wasn't clear on exactly what was called so I don't know if he had an argument, but it sure was entertaining.

-After a fly out and a walk, a base hit by Jack Damelio plates Patterson to tie up the game. Head to the bottom half tied at 3.

-First two Redlands hitters pop out. Then Anthony Acosta comes up and hits a line drive over the right fielder's head and up the dirt hill in right. Jack Hanley, normally the PP starting catcher, is in right after pinch-hitting the half-inning prior. He played the ball well enough, but you wonder whether a guy with more outfield experience gets the ball in quicker or even makes a play going back, as Acosta is able to stretch it into a triple.

-I remark to the parent next to me that taking third base on a ball behind you with two outs was a risky play. But Acosta made it.

-PP pitcher falls behind 3-1 on the next hitter. With first base open and the winning run on third, no reason to give Renteria (Redlands 3-hole hitter) anything to hit. As I mention to the parent next to me, throw another breaking ball but just make sure it's something your catcher can handle. Welp. Sure enough, curve ball in the dirt that the catcher had no chance of coming up with, and Acosta (who daringly took the extra base on the triple) is able to score. Game over.

Tough way to lose, especially trying to avoid the sweep. PP will have to regroup and right the ship, but still can make noise and claw their way back into the top 4 if they can be more consistent.

Astonishingly, Pomona and Whitter are tied in conference winning percentage with Cal Tech at the moment.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on April 01, 2019, 04:39:04 PM
It's hard to imagine Cal Lu and Chapman not making the postseason at this point, but the other two slots are wide open, and may stay that way until the final weekend.  Not exactly parity but closer to that than in recent seasons, from what I have seen, especially with Caltech taking a game from Cal Lu.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 02, 2019, 01:33:06 PM
Not a great look for our rivals across Sixth Street:

https://tsl.news/cms-baseball-team-lands-one-week-suspension-as-schools-investigate-weekend-conduct/?fbclid=IwAR2XOjXhkTM9uRM6-3PmXW9ZBL13PQsLDG-ZOHIiFEHRemKrb8eaP2dfkEw (https://tsl.news/cms-baseball-team-lands-one-week-suspension-as-schools-investigate-weekend-conduct/?fbclid=IwAR2XOjXhkTM9uRM6-3PmXW9ZBL13PQsLDG-ZOHIiFEHRemKrb8eaP2dfkEw)

CMS baseball gets a one week suspension for alleged hazing activities last weekend. Hopefully nothing dangerous, sexual, etc. and it gets resolved appropriately. CMS had been playing well of late, this would certainly seem to halt that momentum.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 02, 2019, 02:06:38 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 02, 2019, 01:33:06 PM
Not a great look for our rivals across Sixth Street:

https://tsl.news/cms-baseball-team-lands-one-week-suspension-as-schools-investigate-weekend-conduct/?fbclid=IwAR2XOjXhkTM9uRM6-3PmXW9ZBL13PQsLDG-ZOHIiFEHRemKrb8eaP2dfkEw (https://tsl.news/cms-baseball-team-lands-one-week-suspension-as-schools-investigate-weekend-conduct/?fbclid=IwAR2XOjXhkTM9uRM6-3PmXW9ZBL13PQsLDG-ZOHIiFEHRemKrb8eaP2dfkEw)

CMS baseball gets a one week suspension for alleged hazing activities last weekend. Hopefully nothing dangerous, sexual, etc. and it gets resolved appropriately. CMS had been playing well of late, this would certainly seem to halt that momentum.

Wow, that is a really bad deal for all involved. Looks like another NWC school get screwed by the SCIAC (Pacific football having Oxy cancel a game last year). Sounds like it's either really serious or the school is getting out in front of it and taking immediate action in case things do come up that are very serious.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on April 03, 2019, 06:19:47 PM
I am going to out myself as a proud parent of a CMS player on this mostly anonymous bulletin board because I don't want these statements to be there for folks to read without a response.

Unless multiple kids are flat out lying to their parents, the incident in question could not be honestly called hazing. A couple poor choices were made during a baseball party that was held in the open, on campus, and in view of campus security and cameras. There was nothing mean, sexual, demeaning, or involving bullying.

I support the administration's effort to get in front of this, and as parents we are hoping that the administration finishes its investigation quickly, that it acts fairly, and that  everyone who has read about this as "hazing" is informed of the true nature of the incidents.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on April 03, 2019, 07:21:57 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on April 03, 2019, 06:19:47 PM
I am going to out myself as a proud parent of a CMS player on this mostly anonymous bulletin board because I don't want these statements to be there for folks to read without a response.

Unless multiple kids are flat out lying to their parents, the incident in question could not be honestly called hazing. A couple poor choices were made during a baseball party that was held in the open, on campus, and in view of campus security and cameras. There was nothing mean, sexual, demeaning, or involving bullying.

I support the administration's effort to get in front of this, and as parents we are hoping that the administration finishes its investigation quickly, that it acts fairly, and that  everyone who has read about this as "hazing" is informed of the true nature of the incidents.

MIFDad - appreciate your post. Easy for imaginations to run wild in this situation. Since posting the article, I've separately heard secondhand rumors about what happened and they're consistent with your characterization. Dumb choices, perhaps, but nothing like what folks worry most about when they hear of a "hazing" incident (and I'm also confused as to how the term "hazing" was applied to the incident).
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on April 03, 2019, 07:33:16 PM
Thanks, Teddy.  I appreciate that.  I do not know how that term came to be used, but I hope the powers-that-be make it crystal clear that the usage was not correct.  It's become an  odious term, for good reason.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 20, 2019, 08:29:52 PM
Despite losing G1 at home to Caltech; Whittier regroups from being down 5-1 in G2 at Pasadena, to winning in extras 8-6; then taking the decisive G3 4-0 to clinch the series and deny the Beavers the  series win.

Whittier has to breathe a sigh of relief to have avoided the ignominious distinction, but the fact of the matter is Caltech is more competitive than ever.  Gone are the 5+ errors per game and multiple walks that routinely escorted opponents to mercy rule wins.  Come ready to play baseball against Caltech.  It’s a good thing for the conference.

Whittier had to grind this series out and were fortunate to get away with the series win, but they were without the services of their #1 pitcher - who likely would’ve made a difference in G1.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 21, 2019, 06:03:34 PM
I viewed the Caltech home page here on D3baseball.com and saw this news release.

QuoteApril 1, 2019
Caltech Beats '17 National Champs CLU for First Time in Over 50 Years
The Caltech Baseball team made history once again this year, this time scoring perhaps the biggest victory since the program's formative years nearly a century ago.

No, it is not an April Fool's joke.

Congrats to Cal Tech
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on April 22, 2019, 01:02:03 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 21, 2019, 06:03:34 PM
I viewed the Caltech home page here on D3baseball.com and saw this news release.

QuoteApril 1, 2019
Caltech Beats '17 National Champs CLU for First Time in Over 50 Years
The Caltech Baseball team made history once again this year, this time scoring perhaps the biggest victory since the program's formative years nearly a century ago.

No, it is not an April Fool's joke.

Congrats to Cal Tech

With 5 conference wins over 5 different teams, Caltech is no joke.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 22, 2019, 01:11:11 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on April 22, 2019, 01:02:03 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 21, 2019, 06:03:34 PM
I viewed the Caltech home page here on D3baseball.com and saw this news release.

QuoteApril 1, 2019
Caltech Beats '17 National Champs CLU for First Time in Over 50 Years
The Caltech Baseball team made history once again this year, this time scoring perhaps the biggest victory since the program's formative years nearly a century ago.

No, it is not an April Fool's joke.

Congrats to Cal Tech

With 5 conference wins over 5 different teams, Caltech is no joke.
I am reminded of a comment that Texas Longhorn head coach Darrell Royal made in 1961 after his #1 ranked team was upset by TCU.

″(TCU) is like a bunch of cockroaches. It's not what they eat and tote off, it's what they fall into and mess up that hurts."

There may be a team or two that looks at that Cal Tech loss as a coulda/shoulda/woulda game.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 29, 2019, 10:50:08 AM
Final week of the SCIAC season coming up and the top 4 spots are still to be determined, but the picture is a little more clear than it was last week.

Chapman is the only school that has clinched a birth in the SCIAC Tournament, but their seed is still up in the air.  They finish with Caltech and need 1 win in that series to be the #1 seed in the tourney.  Claremont needs a lot to happen in front of them and they must win the La Verne series at a minimum to get in.

La Verne needs 1 win to clinch a spot as they finish up with Claremont.

Oxy needs to beat Redlands once, and have Claremont lose 2/3 to get in, but if Oxy takes more than 1 game from Redlands, they are in.

Cal Lu needs any combination of a win against Whittier, or 1 Claremont loss to La Verne to get in.

Claremont needs to take 2/3 from La Verne and have Oxy get swept by Redlands to get in over Oxy.  They only have the tie-breaker against Oxy.

Tie-Breaker Scenarios:
Chapman has the tie-breaker over La Verne and Oxy
La Verne has the tie-breaker over Oxy and Cal Lu
Oxy has a tie-breaker over Cal Lu
Cal Lu has a tie-breaker over Chapman.

Friday could set the participants for the tourney, with Saturday determining the seeds.

I think that is right......
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on April 29, 2019, 02:31:25 PM
If CMS sweeps LV they would both be 14-10 and CMS would have the tie-breaker so they would be in, right?

But what if that happens AND Oxy loses 2/3 vs. Redlands AND Cal Lu loses 2/3 vs. Whittier - then you'd have 4 teams tied for 2nd at 14-10.

Which of the 4 goes home?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on May 01, 2019, 04:22:50 PM
Updated rankings

West    In-Division Record    Overall Record
1    Chapman    27-9    27-9
2    Trinity (Texas)    29-8    30-9
3    La Verne    27-10    27-10
4    Occidental    25-12    25-12
5    Texas Lutheran    29-10    29-10
6    Concordia University Texas    29-10    29-10
7    Cal Lutheran    24-13    24-13
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 02, 2019, 11:19:10 AM
Quote from: SoCal OG on May 01, 2019, 04:22:50 PM
Updated rankings

West    In-Division Record    Overall Record
1    Chapman    27-9    27-9
2    Trinity (Texas)    29-8    30-9
3    La Verne    27-10    27-10
4    Occidental    25-12    25-12
5    Texas Lutheran    29-10    29-10
6    Concordia University Texas    29-10    29-10
7    Cal Lutheran    24-13    24-13

Big jump for Oxy this week and 4 SCIAC teams in the mix.  You can add 2 losses to at least 3 of those teams if those are the 4 that make the SCIAC tourney.  I would think Chapman is safe regardless of what happens and believe they will host Whitman in a best of 5 in the regional.  Hoping the SCIAC can get a couple of teams in.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 02, 2019, 11:42:22 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 02, 2019, 11:19:10 AM
Quote from: SoCal OG on May 01, 2019, 04:22:50 PM
Updated rankings

West    In-Division Record    Overall Record
1    Chapman    27-9    27-9
2    Trinity (Texas)    29-8    30-9
3    La Verne    27-10    27-10
4    Occidental    25-12    25-12
5    Texas Lutheran    29-10    29-10
6    Concordia University Texas    29-10    29-10
7    Cal Lutheran    24-13    24-13

Big jump for Oxy this week and 4 SCIAC teams in the mix.  You can add 2 losses to at least 3 of those teams if those are the 4 that make the SCIAC tourney.  I would think Chapman is safe regardless of what happens and believe they will host Whitman in a best of 5 in the regional.  Hoping the SCIAC can get a couple of teams in.
in which case I will bet that they would fly Whitman to Texas to play the "other" SCAC team.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 02, 2019, 01:10:57 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 02, 2019, 11:19:10 AM
Quote from: SoCal OG on May 01, 2019, 04:22:50 PM
Updated rankings

West    In-Division Record    Overall Record
1    Chapman    27-9    27-9
2    Trinity (Texas)    29-8    30-9
3    La Verne    27-10    27-10
4    Occidental    25-12    25-12
5    Texas Lutheran    29-10    29-10
6    Concordia University Texas    29-10    29-10
7    Cal Lutheran    24-13    24-13

Big jump for Oxy this week and 4 SCIAC teams in the mix.  You can add 2 losses to at least 3 of those teams if those are the 4 that make the SCIAC tourney.  I would think Chapman is safe regardless of what happens and believe they will host Whitman in a best of 5 in the regional.  Hoping the SCIAC can get a couple of teams in.

If two SCIAC teams are in, I don't see them playing each other in a two-team regional.  I predict in this scenario you fly in Whitman and the not SCAC Trinity team, leaving Trinity-ASC as the two team regional.  The NCAA has not been shy about adding a flight for competitive balance.

I am predicting a regional with Chapman, SCIAC champion, Texas Lutheran and Whitman. and one with CTX and Trinity.  You can even play home-home for Trinity and CTX but that would be too bold on the NCAA.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 02, 2019, 07:21:01 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on May 02, 2019, 01:10:57 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 02, 2019, 11:19:10 AM
Quote from: SoCal OG on May 01, 2019, 04:22:50 PM
Updated rankings

West    In-Division Record    Overall Record
1    Chapman    27-9    27-9
2    Trinity (Texas)    29-8    30-9
3    La Verne    27-10    27-10
4    Occidental    25-12    25-12
5    Texas Lutheran    29-10    29-10
6    Concordia University Texas    29-10    29-10
7    Cal Lutheran    24-13    24-13

Big jump for Oxy this week and 4 SCIAC teams in the mix.  You can add 2 losses to at least 3 of those teams if those are the 4 that make the SCIAC tourney.  I would think Chapman is safe regardless of what happens and believe they will host Whitman in a best of 5 in the regional.  Hoping the SCIAC can get a couple of teams in.

If two SCIAC teams are in, I don't see them playing each other in a two-team regional.  I predict in this scenario you fly in Whitman and the not SCAC Trinity team, leaving Trinity-ASC as the two team regional.  The NCAA has not been shy about adding a flight for competitive balance.

I am predicting a regional with Chapman, SCIAC champion, Texas Lutheran and Whitman. and one with CTX and Trinity.  You can even play home-home for Trinity and CTX but that would be too bold on the NCAA.

Do you think TLU is fairly safe if they don't win the SCAC tourney and Trinity does?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 03, 2019, 12:13:12 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 02, 2019, 07:21:01 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on May 02, 2019, 01:10:57 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 02, 2019, 11:19:10 AM
Quote from: SoCal OG on May 01, 2019, 04:22:50 PM
Updated rankings

West    In-Division Record    Overall Record
1    Chapman    27-9    27-9
2    Trinity (Texas)    29-8    30-9
3    La Verne    27-10    27-10
4    Occidental    25-12    25-12
5    Texas Lutheran    29-10    29-10
6    Concordia University Texas    29-10    29-10
7    Cal Lutheran    24-13    24-13

Big jump for Oxy this week and 4 SCIAC teams in the mix.  You can add 2 losses to at least 3 of those teams if those are the 4 that make the SCIAC tourney.  I would think Chapman is safe regardless of what happens and believe they will host Whitman in a best of 5 in the regional.  Hoping the SCIAC can get a couple of teams in.

If two SCIAC teams are in, I don't see them playing each other in a two-team regional.  I predict in this scenario you fly in Whitman and the not SCAC Trinity team, leaving Trinity-ASC as the two team regional.  The NCAA has not been shy about adding a flight for competitive balance.

I am predicting a regional with Chapman, SCIAC champion, Texas Lutheran and Whitman. and one with CTX and Trinity.  You can even play home-home for Trinity and CTX but that would be too bold on the NCAA.

Do you think TLU is fairly safe if they don't win the SCAC tourney and Trinity does?

If TLU loses the SCAC, I expect them to go 2-2 or 3-2.  The only teams that will not get 2 regional loses are the winners of the tournament.  Of course if Southwestern wins the SCAC then all hell breaks loose and someone will lose out.  CTX is too far down the list that they are probably out if they dont win their pool and do well in the end series.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 04, 2019, 08:44:02 PM
TLU plays Trinity tomorrow, needing only one win.

From the perspective of getting Pool C bids in the West Region, TLU winning the first game and earning the Pool A bid sets up nicely for Trinity to earn the Pool C.

By my first run of the Regional Rankings, Trinity TX has these results against regionally ranked teams.

Cortland  2-0
BSC         2-1
Babson     2-1
TLU          1-4
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 07, 2019, 03:50:42 PM
With the start of the SCIAC Tourney a few days away, I thought I would throw some numbers out for the 4 participants.  These are conference stats only.

ERA
2.89- Chapman
3.37- Cal Lu
3.40- Oxy
3.62- La Verne

Batting Average
.298- Oxy
.294- Cal Lu
.293- Chapman
.290- La Verne

*I am amazed that none of these four schools hit over .300 in conference

Slugging %
.417- Chapman
.414- Oxy
.408- Cal Lu
.396

HR's
13- Oxy
10- Chapman
9- Cal Lu and La Verne

SB's
43- Chapman
38- Oxy
26- La Verne
19- Cal Lu

I won't keep going but I really do think this tourney is up for grabs.  Starting pitching will be key for everyone with each school typically using the same three starters each series.  Some bullpens are deeper than others and that could come into play if any starter gets knocked out early.  Oxy has mixed it up a bit lately moving Ramirez, who is having a very good freshman year, to the pen to close out games so we will see if they stay that course.  Friday should be a great day of baseball with all 4 starters having the ability to shut down the opposition.

Chapman is safe should they fail to with the tourney and I think Oxy and La Verne "could" get a bid if they make the championship game.  It looks like Cal Lu needs to win the tourney to get a bid.  Either way, each of these four teams is rooting for Concordia (TX) to win their tourney and for the upsets across the country to slow down a bit.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on May 07, 2019, 05:10:37 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 07, 2019, 03:50:42 PM
Either way, each of these four teams is rooting for Concordia (TX) to win their tourney and for the upsets across the country to slow down a bit.

Why are they rooting for Concordia (TX)? 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 07, 2019, 11:26:51 PM
Quote from: SoCal OG on May 07, 2019, 05:10:37 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 07, 2019, 03:50:42 PM
Either way, each of these four teams is rooting for Concordia (TX) to win their tourney and for the upsets across the country to slow down a bit.

Why are they rooting for Concordia (TX)?

CTX will move up in the regional rankings tomorrow.  Remove them as a contender for a pool c bid.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 07, 2019, 11:51:07 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on May 07, 2019, 11:26:51 PM
Quote from: SoCal OG on May 07, 2019, 05:10:37 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 07, 2019, 03:50:42 PM
Either way, each of these four teams is rooting for Concordia (TX) to win their tourney and for the upsets across the country to slow down a bit.

Why are they rooting for Concordia (TX)?

CTX will move up in the regional rankings tomorrow.  Remove them as a contender for a pool c bid.
Exactly. I figure CTX will go to the 3 spot and the worst they can be after this weekend is 32-14.  I think it would be tough to leave them out but trouble for the SCIAC if that does happen.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 08, 2019, 12:39:20 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 07, 2019, 11:51:07 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on May 07, 2019, 11:26:51 PM
Quote from: SoCal OG on May 07, 2019, 05:10:37 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 07, 2019, 03:50:42 PM
Either way, each of these four teams is rooting for Concordia (TX) to win their tourney and for the upsets across the country to slow down a bit.

Why are they rooting for Concordia (TX)?
If LeTourneau wins the ASC I am not sure CTX will have a lock to make the tournament.  I think moving up to #3 is too optimistic and think that they will stay mired behind Texas Lutheran.  If they leap ahead of TLU this week and lose the ASC, they should fall back behind them in the final regional rankings.

If disaster strikes and only one SLIAC team makes the playoffs, see the NWC and SLIAC play a two team regional at the SLIAC champion.

CTX will move up in the regional rankings tomorrow.  Remove them as a contender for a pool c bid.
Exactly. I figure CTX will go to the 3 spot and the worst they can be after this weekend is 32-14.  I think it would be tough to leave them out but trouble for the SCIAC if that does happen.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 08, 2019, 01:13:22 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 07, 2019, 03:50:42 PM

Batting Average
.298- Oxy
.294- Cal Lu
.293- Chapman
.290- La Verne

*I am amazed that none of these four schools hit over .300 in conference


I think an improved Caltech, no longer being an automatic mercy rule and a hit parade, is probably the biggest reason for pulling down BA's.  They beat 2 of the 4 playoff teams and held Chapman to 5 hits in G1 of their series.

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 08, 2019, 03:05:13 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on May 08, 2019, 01:13:22 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 07, 2019, 03:50:42 PM

Batting Average
.298- Oxy
.294- Cal Lu
.293- Chapman
.290- La Verne

*I am amazed that none of these four schools hit over .300 in conference


I think an improved Caltech, no longer being an automatic mercy rule and a hit parade, is probably the biggest reason for pulling down BA's.  They beat 2 of the 4 playoff teams and held Chapman to 5 hits in G1 of their series.

That is a very good point I hadn't thought about.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 08, 2019, 05:20:23 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 08, 2019, 03:05:13 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on May 08, 2019, 01:13:22 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 07, 2019, 03:50:42 PM

Batting Average
.298- Oxy
.294- Cal Lu
.293- Chapman
.290- La Verne

*I am amazed that none of these four schools hit over .300 in conference


I think an improved Caltech, no longer being an automatic mercy rule and a hit parade, is probably the biggest reason for pulling down BA's.  They beat 2 of the 4 playoff teams and held Chapman to 5 hits in G1 of their series.

That is a very good point I hadn't thought about.
I ran some numbers. CalTech was 1/10th of the number of games.

If you got five fewer hits per game on 40 AB's in a game that is 20 fewer hits per 1600 AB's per season or 0.012 points on a batting average.


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 08, 2019, 05:50:27 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 08, 2019, 05:20:23 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 08, 2019, 03:05:13 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on May 08, 2019, 01:13:22 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 07, 2019, 03:50:42 PM

Batting Average
.298- Oxy
.294- Cal Lu
.293- Chapman
.290- La Verne

*I am amazed that none of these four schools hit over .300 in conference


I think an improved Caltech, no longer being an automatic mercy rule and a hit parade, is probably the biggest reason for pulling down BA's.  They beat 2 of the 4 playoff teams and held Chapman to 5 hits in G1 of their series.

That is a very good point I hadn't thought about.
I ran some numbers. CalTech was 1/10th of the number of games.

If you got five fewer hits per game on 40 AB's in a game that is 20 fewer hits per 1600 AB's per season or 0.012 points on a batting average.

I offered that it was the biggest reason, but not the only reason.  I think you can point to Whittier's and CMS's improved competitiveness as contributing reasons, too.  Plus the competitive gap between top four teams and the lower 4 teams may not be as big as it has been say in 2014 and 2015...

You also need to consider the inflationary effect of the 15-20 hit games on the reference state, i.e., before Caltech became more competitive; then compare that to the new state.

Either way, I think that is where the answer may likely be found.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Lets Play Two on May 09, 2019, 02:11:10 PM
Purple makes a great point.  Diving into the numbers a little:

CMS went 5-7 against the 4 playoff teams.  In those games, Oxy, CLU, ULV and CU were a combined 95 for 391 for a .243 batting average.
Whittier went 3-9 against the 4 playoff teams.  In those games, Oxy, CLU, ULV and CU were a combined 112 for 396 for a .283 batting average.
Caltech went 2-10 against the 4 playoff teams.  In those games, Oxy, CLU, ULV and CU were a combined 116 for 377 for a .308 batting average.

Oxy, CLU, ULV and CU went 26-10 vs. CMS, Whittier and Caltech, going 323 for 1164 for a .277 batting average.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 09, 2019, 03:31:46 PM
All SCIAC Team Announced

https://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2018-19/releases/20190508olp4dm
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 10, 2019, 01:03:11 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on May 09, 2019, 03:31:46 PM
All SCIAC Team Announced

https://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2018-19/releases/20190508olp4dm

Congratulations to the players and coaches honored.  Additionally, congratulations to all teams for another interesting and enjoyable season.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 10, 2019, 01:09:19 PM
Quote from: Lets Play Two on May 09, 2019, 02:11:10 PM
Purple makes a great point.  Diving into the numbers a little:

CMS went 5-7 against the 4 playoff teams.  In those games, Oxy, CLU, ULV and CU were a combined 95 for 391 for a .243 batting average.
Whittier went 3-9 against the 4 playoff teams.  In those games, Oxy, CLU, ULV and CU were a combined 112 for 396 for a .283 batting average.
Caltech went 2-10 against the 4 playoff teams.  In those games, Oxy, CLU, ULV and CU were a combined 116 for 377 for a .308 batting average.

Oxy, CLU, ULV and CU went 26-10 vs. CMS, Whittier and Caltech, going 323 for 1164 for a .277 batting average.

Per JP's read:
Batting Average
.298- Oxy
.294- Cal Lu
.293- Chapman
.290- La Verne

This leads to the conclusion that these teams hit better against each other (including PP) than against those teams typically considered to be the lower tier.

That's an interesting stat.  (Cue the Stat of the Day sound riff)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 14, 2019, 12:14:01 PM
Chapman rolls through the SCIAC Tournament with outstanding pitching and timely hitting.  Overall, there were some very good pitching performances throughout the tourney.

Chapman had a 0.67 ERA and hit .274 over three games, winning all 3
Cal Lu had a 2.91 ERA and hit .161 over 4 games, going 2 and 2
La Verne had a 2.42 ERA and hit .172 over three games, winning 1 and dropping 2
Oxy had a 1.13 ERA and hit .116 over two games, dropping both.

Chapman is built for a 3 game series with their pitching as they have used the same six pitchers for all but 22.2 innings this year.  This bodes well for them over the regional and super regional format, but the WS is where they could face some challenges.  It will be interesting to see what happens if they drop a game and have to dig deeper into their arms.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 14, 2019, 02:07:14 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 14, 2019, 12:14:01 PM
Chapman rolls through the SCIAC Tournament with outstanding pitching and timely hitting.  Overall, there were some very good pitching performances throughout the tourney.

Chapman had a 0.67 ERA and hit .274 over three games, winning all 3
Cal Lu had a 2.91 ERA and hit .161 over 4 games, going 2 and 2
La Verne had a 2.42 ERA and hit .172 over three games, winning 1 and dropping 2
Oxy had a 1.13 ERA and hit .116 over two games, dropping both.

Chapman is built for a 3 game series with their pitching as they have used the same six pitchers for all but 22.2 innings this year.  This bodes well for them over the regional and super regional format, but the WS is where they could face some challenges.  It will be interesting to see what happens if they drop a game and have to dig deeper into their arms.

I think it would be great to see a SCIAC team get to the WS.  Maybe those three starters are enough to get them deep enough in the winner's bracket, so that they can absorb a later loss and reset the staff.  What concerns me is their hitting - do they have enough when they start seeing some of the top of staff arms that they have not seen before.

Imagine if Chapman had not lost the two guys they lost to the draft and transfer from last year...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 14, 2019, 02:08:40 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on May 14, 2019, 02:07:14 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 14, 2019, 12:14:01 PM
Chapman rolls through the SCIAC Tournament with outstanding pitching and timely hitting.  Overall, there were some very good pitching performances throughout the tourney.

Chapman had a 0.67 ERA and hit .274 over three games, winning all 3
Cal Lu had a 2.91 ERA and hit .161 over 4 games, going 2 and 2
La Verne had a 2.42 ERA and hit .172 over three games, winning 1 and dropping 2
Oxy had a 1.13 ERA and hit .116 over two games, dropping both.

Chapman is built for a 3 game series with their pitching as they have used the same six pitchers for all but 22.2 innings this year.  This bodes well for them over the regional and super regional format, but the WS is where they could face some challenges.  It will be interesting to see what happens if they drop a game and have to dig deeper into their arms.

I think it would be great to see a SCIAC team get to the WS.  Maybe those three starters are enough to get them deep enough in the winner's bracket, so that they can absorb a later loss and reset the staff.  What concerns me is their hitting - do they have enough when they start seeing some of the top of staff arms that they have not seen before.

Imagine if Chapman had not lost the two guys they lost to the draft and transfer from last year...

Then again, who's to say that the pitching they will face will actually be any better than they've already seen.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on June 03, 2019, 08:19:32 PM
I hate to be a jinx, but Chapman is in the final series against Birmingham Southern tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 03, 2019, 09:45:04 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on June 03, 2019, 08:19:32 PM
I hate to be a jinx, but Chapman is in the final series against Birmingham Southern tomorrow.
Your posting a similar announcement on the SAA board would be news.  ;-)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on June 03, 2019, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on June 03, 2019, 09:45:04 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on June 03, 2019, 08:19:32 PM
I hate to be a jinx, but Chapman is in the final series against Birmingham Southern tomorrow.
Your posting a similar announcement on the SAA board would be news.  ;-)
I was going to, but I think the last one was in 2015.  ::)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on June 04, 2019, 06:17:47 PM
Congratulations to Chapman - D3 Baseball champs!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on June 04, 2019, 07:24:36 PM
Big ups to Chapman for representing the SCIAC and the West Region in winning this year's national championship.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on June 04, 2019, 07:48:35 PM
The SCIAC has now won two of the last three championships. :) :)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 04, 2019, 08:30:06 PM
Congrats to Chapman. The Panthers came so close, so many times in the previous decade.

They now have their Walnut and Bronze.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on June 04, 2019, 08:35:17 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on June 04, 2019, 07:48:35 PM
The SCIAC has now won two of the last three championships. :) :)

Congratulations Chapman players and fans,
As well as all SCIAC followers.

West region continues to dominate World Series!!
As Gray Fox noted, SCIAC has won two of the last three!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 05, 2019, 06:10:45 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on June 04, 2019, 08:35:17 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on June 04, 2019, 07:48:35 PM
The SCIAC has now won two of the last three championships. :) :)

Congratulations Chapman players and fans,
As well as all SCIAC followers.

West region continues to dominate World Series!!
As Gray Fox noted, SCIAC has won two of the last three!!
Let's remember that Chapman beat Whitman 3-2 on an unearned run (error on the pitcher) in the bottom of the 9th in Game 5.

Talking about balance in the West Region, Whitman was not even ranked!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on June 05, 2019, 10:36:35 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on June 04, 2019, 08:30:06 PM
Congrats to Chapman. The Panthers came so close, so many times in the previous decade.

They now have their Walnut and Bronze.

Don't forget, Chapman won it all in 2003 which was in the middles of their insane streak of teams that were as good as I have ever seen at the d3 level.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 06, 2019, 10:32:39 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on June 05, 2019, 10:36:35 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on June 04, 2019, 08:30:06 PM
Congrats to Chapman. The Panthers came so close, so many times in the previous decade.

They now have their Walnut and Bronze.

Don't forget, Chapman won it all in 2003 which was in the middles of their insane streak of teams that were as good as I have ever seen at the d3 level.
Thanks. After I had posted that, I wanted to revise it.  That whole mid-decade of Chapman teams were incredible.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on June 17, 2019, 07:12:12 PM
But, then, none could outdo their 1968 National Champs.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 18, 2019, 12:10:00 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on June 17, 2019, 07:12:12 PM
But, then, none could outdo their 1968 National Champs.
1968 was an entirely different brand of ball.

You had large numbers of players going to the NFL and NBA from NAIA schools.

The "majors" were the PAC-8, the Big 8, the Big 10, the 8 in the SWC which would admit U of Houston in the fall of 1968, the ACC with 8 schools, the SEC with only 10 or 11 schools and the 5 big schools in the East competing for the Lambert and a half dozen independents, Notre Dame, Tulane, Ga Tech, Army, Navy. How many are in D-1 FBS now?

You did not have restrictions on the number of scholarships you could give.

Title IX? What is Title IX?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on September 18, 2019, 02:09:41 PM
FALL BALL HAS BEGUN   :D

That is all I have to say.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on September 19, 2019, 06:35:24 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on September 18, 2019, 02:09:41 PM
FALL BALL HAS BEGUN   :D

That is all I have to say.

YES!!  Cant wait for the season to pick up again.  Looking forward to a strong SCIAC season and hopefully some new challengers to Chapman.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on September 20, 2019, 02:37:17 PM
Quote from: SoCal OG on September 19, 2019, 06:35:24 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on September 18, 2019, 02:09:41 PM
FALL BALL HAS BEGUN   :D

That is all I have to say.

YES!!  Cant wait for the season to pick up again.  Looking forward to a strong SCIAC season and hopefully some new challengers to Chapman.

Agree 100%, but Chapman should be tough this year.  From a quick look at their roster, it looks like most of their offensive production is returning.  Pitching-wise, all three of the starters graduated, but there's plenty of talent behind them. We'll see if they are ready to step up.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on October 16, 2019, 01:49:57 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on September 20, 2019, 02:37:17 PM
Quote from: SoCal OG on September 19, 2019, 06:35:24 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on September 18, 2019, 02:09:41 PM
FALL BALL HAS BEGUN   :D

That is all I have to say.

YES!!  Cant wait for the season to pick up again.  Looking forward to a strong SCIAC season and hopefully some new challengers to Chapman.

Agree 100%, but Chapman should be tough this year.  From a quick look at their roster, it looks like most of their offensive production is returning.  Pitching-wise, all three of the starters graduated, but there's plenty of talent behind them. We'll see if they are ready to step up.

My son told me this weekend one of his teammates has a friend at Chapman.  He said they had 40 freshman players come out for the team.  6 of them made it.  Pretty interesting if true...good chance they are exaggerating but maybe someone with ties to Chapman can confirm or not. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 16, 2019, 02:48:43 PM
Gotta look deeper than numbers. How many were recruited.  Maybe those 6 were recruited and the rest were true walkons.
I imagine schools like Chapman when they are having success, have guys show up in the fall that the coach did not recruit. Many of those are "cut" at tryouts. Some are kept on through fall.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on February 04, 2020, 02:48:07 PM
D3 baseball preview is out.  SCIAC coaches' poll is also out:

2020 Preseason Poll
1. Chapman (7) - 79 points
2. Occidental (2) - 65 points
3. La Verne - 61 points
4. Cal Lutheran - 58 points
5. CMS - 43 points
6. Pomona-Pitzer - 40 points
7. Redlands - 29 points
8. Whittier - 21 points
9. Caltech - 9 points

Surprises?  2nd place and 2 first place votes for Oxy over La Verne maybe a bit, especially the 1st place votes.  Do coaches vote for their own teams?  But Oxy starts every Friday league game with a legit arm who is a pre-season All-American, so maybe it's not  so surprising.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on February 04, 2020, 05:44:10 PM
Looking forward to seeing some baseball this weekend!  Feels like its been forever.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on February 19, 2020, 05:29:42 PM
Not surprisingly, Cal Lu and Chapman have come out of the gates hot. Both teams are 7-0 overall with wins over UTD and Whitman. Overall, the conference us 28-18 in noncon so far, with the rest of the pack hovering in the .500 area. With 2 of the last 3 national championships (from those 2 squads) and the way this conference has played in non-conference the last couple years, I expect the SCIAC to be in the running for multiple postseason bids.

From what I've seen and heard of Pomona-Pitzer in practices, exhibitions, and the alumni game, they're going to be a team that relies on its arms. Ryan Long is a stud who throws ched and is likely going to follow in David Colvin's footsteps pitching in the Cape this summer. And they've got way more arms in the high 80's- low 90's than I can ever remember. I think the driveline stuff they've been doing has really been paying dividends.

I'm more worried about their sticks. Brian Knapp was one of the best bats in the west last year before getting hurt. Unfortunately, he hurt his wrist in a preseason tune up and hasn't been able to play so far. I don't know the exact prognosis, but he leaves a big hole in a lineup that's only slugging .393 through their first 4 games.

This team does have a wealth of senior experience, though, and a good overall culture. This is the kind of team that I think can improve a lot through the season, and hopefully can play its way into the SCIAC tournament. The lack of pitching depth that has been the achilles heel of some of the best PP teams of the past 20 years shouldn't be an issue. But they'll need their bats to help get them to a place where they can take advantage of it.

Looking forward to another fun year in the SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 22, 2020, 12:43:15 AM
SCIAC play getting under way for everyone but Oxy.  Good games all around on Friday with some good pitching in the low-scoring games.

Speaking of Oxy....they lose a tough one to Whitworth, who looks to be the team to beat in the NWC so far.  Oxy led 2-1 with 2 out and nobody on in the 9th, but Whitworth comes back to score 3 and take this one.  I am no SID, but the garbage that comes from the OXY recaps is pretty bad.  The recap for this game basically says the umpire blew a call in the 9th and that's why they lost. The blown call might be true, it is way too close to call from a camera in CF, but you can't put stuff like that on paper.  Also, mentioning the home run by Whitworth barely clearing the fence just seems like sour grapes. You have to expect plenty of HR's on routine pop flys in that little league park Oxy plays in.  Maybe I read too much into it, but I can't imagine the Oxy administration being too happy with this type of reporting representing their school.  Need OxyBob to chime in on this one.

Not sure if tomorrows games will be played, but I am sure there will be more good matchups.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on February 22, 2020, 11:49:05 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 22, 2020, 12:43:15 AM
Need OxyBob to chime in on this one.

I did not watch the game or the play in question, so I don't have an opinion. On the other hand, I am certain it was a bad call and a travesty of justice and cost Oxy a sure win.

For those of us who can't attend the games, I think it's great when SIDs post recaps. Yeah, they may have a partisan spin, but so what?

I once made the mistake of giving my unsolicited critique of a game recap. Take it from me, it's not a good idea.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on February 24, 2020, 10:40:44 AM
Quote from: OxyBob on February 22, 2020, 11:49:05 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on February 22, 2020, 12:43:15 AM
Need OxyBob to chime in on this one.

I did not watch the game or the play in question, so I don't have an opinion. On the other hand, I am certain it was a bad call and a travesty of justice and cost Oxy a sure win.

For those of us who can't attend the games, I think it's great when SIDs post recaps. Yeah, they may have a partisan spin, but so what?

I once made the mistake of giving my unsolicited critique of a game recap. Take it from me, it's not a good idea.

OxyBob

I was at the game...it was a really bad call.  However, you still gotta keep playing after that.  Oxy is looking a little rusty but I'm sure they'll get it all straightened out for conference play. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on February 26, 2020, 09:18:08 AM
Just took a look at the video and what it clearly establishes is that:

1 - The Oxy video set up is the worst in the conference.
2 - Making that call from B is not ideal. SCIAC went to a 3-man crew starting last season but they don't seem to have enough umpires to cover consistently.
3 - A play can't be both bang-bang and a blown call.
4 - It was a tough play but if F4 makes it cleanly, game over.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on February 28, 2020, 09:20:28 PM

Cal Lu Knock off No. 1 Chapman to Take Series Opener

Final                   1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   R   H   E
CHAPMAN           0   0   1   0   0   0   0   2   0   3   10   2
CAL LUTHERAN   1   2   2   2   0   1   0   0   X   8   12   0
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on February 28, 2020, 11:07:10 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on February 28, 2020, 09:20:28 PM

Cal Lu Knock off No. 1 Chapman to Take Series Opener

Final                   1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   R   H   E
CHAPMAN           0   0   1   0   0   0   0   2   0   3   10   2
CAL LUTHERAN   1   2   2   2   0   1   0   0   X   8   12   0

Nice!  Way to go Cal Lu!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 03, 2020, 03:44:04 PM
March 3, 2020
2020 D3baseball.com/NCBWA Top 25, Week 2
Through games of Sunday, March 1, 2020:

#   School (1st votes)   Rec   Pts   Prev.
1   Washington U. (9)   6-0   563   4
2   Cal Lutheran (7)   13-1   550   15
3   Chapman (1)        10-3   534   1
4   Trinity (Texas) (2)   8-2   529   2


Congrats SCIAC on having 2 of top 3 teams in Nation!

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 04, 2020, 03:56:25 PM
Pretty good start to the year by a few SCIAC schools, and a few that have been pretty disappointing.  Cal Lu and Chapman both ranked really high with a good number of win so far.  I think La Verne and Oxy have been pretty disappointing so far but there is plenty of time to turn it around.

Some guys are having monster years so far, led by Zeisler at Chapman.  His slugging % so far is a mere 1.022 and he has 10 multi-hit games out of 13 played.  He has a hit in 12 of the 13 games and is hitting .511, which is insane after 13 games.  Total of 9 guys hitting over .400 so far, we will see if they can keep it up.

Pitching in the SCIAC has been pretty good with plenty of guys putting up really good numbers so far.  I am curious to see where McCarthy's year goes as he has given up a decent number of hits so far, but his earned runs are pretty low.  No idea what is wrong with Butler at Oxy (only 1 game pitched) but Sterner has filled in nicely.  Garcia got knocked around last week but is one of the best in D3.  Rivas at Cal Lu and Hull at CMS are both off to good starts.

Overall I think Cal Lu and Chapman are the 2 best in the SCIAC and feel that CMS could definitely make some noise this year.  Pomona has been good, but they have also dropped one to Caltech.  Speaking of Caltech, I saw them play and it is crazy to see how much that program has improved.  We will see if they can finally get that conference series win this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on March 05, 2020, 01:23:46 PM
Not a huge surprise, but still very disappointing.

Two eastern schools, Pitt Bradford and Ithaca, have canceled their trips to California to play SCIAC teams beginning this weekend. I sincerely hope that's not the beginning of a trend, and I hope  that we'll be able to look back and describe their decision as overly cautious, and not as prescient.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 05, 2020, 01:29:16 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on March 05, 2020, 01:23:46 PM
Not a huge surprise, but still very disappointing.

Two eastern schools, Pitt Bradford and Ithaca, have canceled their trips to California to play SCIAC teams beginning this weekend. I sincerely hope that's not the beginning of a trend, and I hope  that we'll be able to look back and describe their decision as overly cautious, and not as prescient.
Sad to hear, but not a surprise.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 06, 2020, 02:40:51 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on March 05, 2020, 01:23:46 PM
Not a huge surprise, but still very disappointing.

Two eastern schools, Pitt Bradford and Ithaca, have canceled their trips to California to play SCIAC teams beginning this weekend. I sincerely hope that's not the beginning of a trend, and I hope  that we'll be able to look back and describe their decision as overly cautious, and not as prescient.

Looks like many of the SCIAC schools will have to play each other in non-conference games. Definitely not a good situation.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 09, 2020, 11:51:46 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 04, 2020, 03:56:25 PM
Speaking of Caltech, I saw them play and it is crazy to see how much that program has improved.  We will see if they can finally get that conference series win this year.

Whittier looks to have the hitting to hold them off, but there is a definite question mark about the Whittier pitching (thus far), that exposes the Poets to becoming Caltech's first victim.  Could be Caltech's best chance in years...rooting for the Poets to get things figured out.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 09, 2020, 12:01:35 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 06, 2020, 02:40:51 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on March 05, 2020, 01:23:46 PM
Not a huge surprise, but still very disappointing.

Two eastern schools, Pitt Bradford and Ithaca, have canceled their trips to California to play SCIAC teams beginning this weekend. I sincerely hope that's not the beginning of a trend, and I hope  that we'll be able to look back and describe their decision as overly cautious, and not as prescient.

Looks like many of the SCIAC schools will have to play each other in non-conference games. Definitely not a good situation.

I'd assume many other GSAC and PAC-WEST schools are in the same boat... there are a lot of NAIA schools that come through SoCal in March and I think a few of those may have opened up as well.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on March 09, 2020, 01:21:13 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on March 05, 2020, 01:23:46 PM
Not a huge surprise, but still very disappointing.

Two eastern schools, Pitt Bradford and Ithaca, have canceled their trips to California to play SCIAC teams beginning this weekend. I sincerely hope that's not the beginning of a trend, and I hope  that we'll be able to look back and describe their decision as overly cautious, and not as prescient.

Fortunately, Rochester managed to make the trip out West and played 4 games over 2 days against PP. Sagehens took 3 of 4, including a walk off home run (Freshman James Schmidt's first career bomb) in Game 1 and a lopsided 15-5 victory in Game 4.

However, I understand the NESCAC has cancelled all spring athletics trips. Pomona loses a matchup against Wesleyan, which has been replaced with a non-con game against CMS. Unfortunate for the conference to be missing non-con games, which are a helpful barometer for the regional and national committees to be able to evaluate teams across regions. Given the travel restrictions we're seeing across the country, though, not altogether surprising.

I just hope that the PP basketball team isn't impacted, as they travel to Illinois (@ #15 Elmhurst) in the program's first ever Sweet 16 appearance.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 09, 2020, 04:47:53 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 06, 2020, 02:40:51 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on March 05, 2020, 01:23:46 PM
Not a huge surprise, but still very disappointing.

Two eastern schools, Pitt Bradford and Ithaca, have canceled their trips to California to play SCIAC teams beginning this weekend. I sincerely hope that's not the beginning of a trend, and I hope  that we'll be able to look back and describe their decision as overly cautious, and not as prescient.

Looks like many of the SCIAC schools will have to play each other in non-conference games. Definitely not a good situation.

Here is a quick rundown of the SCIAC non-conference games against each other:

Chapman: 3/8 Caltech W 8-2
Cal Lu: 3/5 Redlands W 8-5; @Oxy 3/12; Whittier 3/14
CMS: 3/7 @Redlands L 14-1; 3/9 @ Pomona; 3/12 @ La Verne;
Caltech: 3/8 @Chapman L 8-2
La Verne: 3/12 CMS; 3/13 Oxy
Oxy: 3/1 @Redlands L 5-4; 3/12 Cal Lu; 3/13 @La Verne; 3/14 @Pomona;
Pomona: 3/9 CMS; 3/13 @Whittier; 3/14 Oxy
Redlands: 3/1 Oxy W 5-4; 3/5 @Cal Lu L 8-5; 3/7 CMS W 14-1
Whittier: 3/13 Pomona; 3/14 @ Cal Lu

I'm pretty sure some ot the SCIAC schools still have games to add, which will likely be against each other at some point.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 10, 2020, 03:17:17 PM

March 10, 2020
2020 D3baseball.com/NCBWA Top 25, Week 3
Through games of Sunday, March 8, 2020:

#   School (1st votes)   Rec   Pts   Prev.
1   Cal Lutheran (17)   16-1   612   2
2   Randolph-Macon (2)   14-1   551   7
3   Chapman              11-3   535   3
4   Babson (1)            2-1   523   5
5   Trinity (Texas) (2)    8-2   514   4
6   Washington U. (1)    8-2   474   1


Yes it's early, but nice to see 2 SCIAC teams in top 3.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on March 11, 2020, 01:20:40 PM
NESCAC has canceled all spring sports.  I suspect that we are not far behind.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on March 11, 2020, 06:49:05 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on March 11, 2020, 01:20:40 PM
NESCAC has canceled all spring sports.  I suspect that we are not far behind.

The Claremont Colleges (ie Pomona-Pitzer and CMS) have cancelled in person classes for the foreseeable future, telling students to stay home after spring break. https://tsl.news/coronavirus-covid-19-classes-canceled-online-claremont/?fbclid=IwAR1E2wpb4FK7UKTuzGUoTDCgOrPC0hAGCaITBcgMbkcKWan77Gil3urVIMk (https://tsl.news/coronavirus-covid-19-classes-canceled-online-claremont/?fbclid=IwAR1E2wpb4FK7UKTuzGUoTDCgOrPC0hAGCaITBcgMbkcKWan77Gil3urVIMk)

Have to assume we'll get word of SCIAC suspending spring sports indefinitely in the imminent future.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 11, 2020, 06:56:12 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on March 11, 2020, 06:49:05 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on March 11, 2020, 01:20:40 PM
NESCAC has canceled all spring sports.  I suspect that we are not far behind.

The Claremont Colleges (ie Pomona-Pitzer and CMS) have cancelled in person classes for the foreseeable future, telling students to stay home after spring break. https://tsl.news/coronavirus-covid-19-classes-canceled-online-claremont/?fbclid=IwAR1E2wpb4FK7UKTuzGUoTDCgOrPC0hAGCaITBcgMbkcKWan77Gil3urVIMk (https://tsl.news/coronavirus-covid-19-classes-canceled-online-claremont/?fbclid=IwAR1E2wpb4FK7UKTuzGUoTDCgOrPC0hAGCaITBcgMbkcKWan77Gil3urVIMk)

Have to assume we'll get word of SCIAC suspending spring sports indefinitely in the imminent future.

Yep, no chance the SCIAC continues playing this year. I guess Cal Lu is crowned National Champs again!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 11, 2020, 07:09:01 PM
https://www.chapmanathletics.com/general/2019-20/releases/20200311s53ees

Chapman suspends all face-to-face classes and athletic events. I guess this means the whole season is done as they won't have one school do it and others not follow suit. Have to assume the entire d3 season is done. Such a shame.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on March 11, 2020, 08:49:49 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 11, 2020, 07:09:01 PM
https://www.chapmanathletics.com/general/2019-20/releases/20200311s53ees

Chapman suspends all face-to-face classes and athletic events. I guess this means the whole season is done as they won't have one school do it and others not follow suit. Have to assume the entire d3 season is done. Such a shame.

Pomona-Pitzer spring sports officially canceled as well. Just a matter of time for the rest of the conference/country. I was skeptical at first, but the more I read the more this seems necessary. Really sucks for the kids, especially the seniors. Not a lot of 5th year guys at the D3 level, or in a conference with academics like SCIAC.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on March 12, 2020, 10:32:48 AM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on March 11, 2020, 08:49:49 PM

Really sucks for the kids, especially the seniors. Not a lot of 5th year guys at the D3 level, or in a conference with academics like SCIAC.
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I feel so bad for the seniors.  What a sucky way to end your playing career to say it mildly.  And for the guys who had hopes of being drafted...its hard enough from the D3 level but now to do it with an incomplete Sr. year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on March 12, 2020, 12:18:53 PM
As expected, Oxy season is now cancelled and students being sent home and will finish semester online.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on March 12, 2020, 06:18:03 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on March 11, 2020, 08:49:49 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 11, 2020, 07:09:01 PM
https://www.chapmanathletics.com/general/2019-20/releases/20200311s53ees

Chapman suspends all face-to-face classes and athletic events. I guess this means the whole season is done as they won't have one school do it and others not follow suit. Have to assume the entire d3 season is done. Such a shame.

Pomona-Pitzer spring sports officially canceled as well. Just a matter of time for the rest of the conference/country. I was skeptical at first, but the more I read the more this seems necessary. Really sucks for the kids, especially the seniors. Not a lot of 5th year guys at the D3 level, or in a conference with academics like SCIAC.

Andddd the NCAA has canceled all Spring championships. MLB Spring Training suspended, start of season will almost certainly be delayed substantially. We don't have any baseball for the foreseeable future  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on March 13, 2020, 02:57:23 PM
NCAA has given spring students an extra year of eligibility.  In the SCIAC, I cant imagine many (if any) Sr's coming back to play.  If going to grad school, I can imagine some trying to walk on/try out.   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 13, 2020, 03:01:18 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 11, 2020, 06:56:12 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on March 11, 2020, 06:49:05 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on March 11, 2020, 01:20:40 PM
NESCAC has canceled all spring sports.  I suspect that we are not far behind.

The Claremont Colleges (ie Pomona-Pitzer and CMS) have cancelled in person classes for the foreseeable future, telling students to stay home after spring break. https://tsl.news/coronavirus-covid-19-classes-canceled-online-claremont/?fbclid=IwAR1E2wpb4FK7UKTuzGUoTDCgOrPC0hAGCaITBcgMbkcKWan77Gil3urVIMk (https://tsl.news/coronavirus-covid-19-classes-canceled-online-claremont/?fbclid=IwAR1E2wpb4FK7UKTuzGUoTDCgOrPC0hAGCaITBcgMbkcKWan77Gil3urVIMk)

Have to assume we'll get word of SCIAC suspending spring sports indefinitely in the imminent future.

Yep, no chance the SCIAC continues playing this year. I guess Cal Lu is crowned National Champs again!

Yes, it would seem #1 at time of cancellation is Champion.
That's what they do with Conference champions, but not sure 🤔 if they do that with National??  Or this year had no champion?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on March 13, 2020, 03:06:53 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 13, 2020, 03:01:18 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 11, 2020, 06:56:12 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on March 11, 2020, 06:49:05 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on March 11, 2020, 01:20:40 PM
NESCAC has canceled all spring sports.  I suspect that we are not far behind.

The Claremont Colleges (ie Pomona-Pitzer and CMS) have cancelled in person classes for the foreseeable future, telling students to stay home after spring break. https://tsl.news/coronavirus-covid-19-classes-canceled-online-claremont/?fbclid=IwAR1E2wpb4FK7UKTuzGUoTDCgOrPC0hAGCaITBcgMbkcKWan77Gil3urVIMk (https://tsl.news/coronavirus-covid-19-classes-canceled-online-claremont/?fbclid=IwAR1E2wpb4FK7UKTuzGUoTDCgOrPC0hAGCaITBcgMbkcKWan77Gil3urVIMk)

Have to assume we'll get word of SCIAC suspending spring sports indefinitely in the imminent future.

Yep, no chance the SCIAC continues playing this year. I guess Cal Lu is crowned National Champs again!

Yes, it would seem #1 at time of cancellation is Champion.
That's what they do with Conference champions, but not sure 🤔 if they do that with National??  Or this year had no champion?

Technically, Oxy was undefeated in conference play....lol
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 13, 2020, 07:15:24 PM
Quote from: SoCal OG on March 13, 2020, 03:06:53 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 13, 2020, 03:01:18 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 11, 2020, 06:56:12 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on March 11, 2020, 06:49:05 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on March 11, 2020, 01:20:40 PM
NESCAC has canceled all spring sports.  I suspect that we are not far behind.

The Claremont Colleges (ie Pomona-Pitzer and CMS) have cancelled in person classes for the foreseeable future, telling students to stay home after spring break. https://tsl.news/coronavirus-covid-19-classes-canceled-online-claremont/?fbclid=IwAR1E2wpb4FK7UKTuzGUoTDCgOrPC0hAGCaITBcgMbkcKWan77Gil3urVIMk (https://tsl.news/coronavirus-covid-19-classes-canceled-online-claremont/?fbclid=IwAR1E2wpb4FK7UKTuzGUoTDCgOrPC0hAGCaITBcgMbkcKWan77Gil3urVIMk)

Have to assume we'll get word of SCIAC suspending spring sports indefinitely in the imminent future.

Yep, no chance the SCIAC continues playing this year. I guess Cal Lu is crowned National Champs again!

Yes, it would seem #1 at time of cancellation is Champion.
That's what they do with Conference champions, but not sure 🤔 if they do that with National??  Or this year had no champion?

Technically, Oxy was undefeated in conference play....lol

Haha, that is true.

I do think the SCIAC would have been very competitive if the whole season was played out. There is some serious talent that is going to be missed next year if those Seniors do not have the ability to come back and play.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on March 19, 2020, 07:02:15 PM
I was out walking today and thinking about Aaron Fitts' proposal that D1 baseball resume play of the 2020 season in the fall, then have an abbreviated post-season, followed by a late MLB draft.

That got me thinking -- what if the NCAA allowed D3 schools to play a fall ball season?  Not a continuation, but a short stand-alone season to rescue some of the  time lost by students unlikely to pay for another year of school just to play D3 baseball. In keeping with the spirit of D3, I figured it would be something like this. 1 week of practices, followed by a 5 or 6 week season.  During the season teams would be limited to 3 practices and a Saturday DH.  Or maybe 2 practices and add a Friday game.

I floated it by my kid today and of course he shot it down with only two words. "Never happen".  I said, but it would be cool, right?  "Yep.  Never happen."

But still.  It would be cool.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on June 08, 2020, 11:16:40 AM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on June 08, 2020, 10:40:38 AM
https://jack-hanley.shinyapps.io/D3_Spraycharts_2019/
App for viewing spray charts of any player in D3 during 2019 season.
Type in your kids name -> Click GENERATE BIO/OPPONENTS -> Click GENERATE SPRAY CHART 
Estimated from play by play data hosted on team sites. 
Have fun.

Hey, thats kinda cool.  Nice work to whoever compiled it. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on June 08, 2020, 11:17:37 AM
Has anyone heard of any Sr's that will come back for another year?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on June 08, 2020, 05:24:21 PM
Quote from: SoCal OG on June 08, 2020, 11:17:37 AM
Has anyone heard of any Sr's that will come back for another year?

I wouldn't expect a lot of Seniors to return for various reasons.  I listened to a podcast with Laverty and he said they had 7 Seniors on this years team and none of them will be back. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on June 08, 2020, 07:23:35 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on June 08, 2020, 05:24:21 PM
Quote from: SoCal OG on June 08, 2020, 11:17:37 AM
Has anyone heard of any Sr's that will come back for another year?

I wouldn't expect a lot of Seniors to return for various reasons.  I listened to a podcast with Laverty and he said they had 7 Seniors on this years team and none of them will be back.

Which podcast?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on June 08, 2020, 10:08:06 PM
Quote from: SoCal OG on June 08, 2020, 07:23:35 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on June 08, 2020, 05:24:21 PM
Quote from: SoCal OG on June 08, 2020, 11:17:37 AM
Has anyone heard of any Sr's that will come back for another year?

I wouldn't expect a lot of Seniors to return for various reasons.  I listened to a podcast with Laverty and he said they had 7 Seniors on this years team and none of them will be back.

Which podcast?



https://twitter.com/D3sFinestPod/status/1253325163854086145

Hopefully that will give you a good link.  The whole interview was good.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on June 11, 2020, 07:26:02 PM
Nick Garcia is the 79th overall pick by Pittsburgh.  I am sure many hitters in the SCIAC are happy to see him gone.

I would expect Nolan McCarthy to sign as a free agent shortly after the draft.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob.Gregg on June 11, 2020, 07:36:20 PM
Saw Garcia (and the rest of the D-III CWS champion Chapman squad) at the 2019 World Series.
He worked five games in the series, two against Washington & Jefferson (games I called), holding the Presidents to no runs and one hit over three innings, walking one and striking out one.  He was a beast.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on June 12, 2020, 12:54:27 PM
Quote from: Bob.Gregg on June 11, 2020, 07:36:20 PM
Saw Garcia (and the rest of the D-III CWS champion Chapman squad) at the 2019 World Series.
He worked five games in the series, two against Washington & Jefferson (games I called), holding the Presidents to no runs and one hit over three innings, walking one and striking out one.  He was a beast.

He moved into a starters role this year and it was good for he got a lot more innings than if he stayed as a closer.  Dominant in both roles.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on June 12, 2020, 03:38:13 PM
D3 reduces number of required contests for baseball to 17 for 20/21 season

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/diii-reduces-number-required-contests

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on July 13, 2020, 08:07:54 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on June 11, 2020, 07:26:02 PM
Nick Garcia is the 79th overall pick by Pittsburgh.  I am sure many hitters in the SCIAC are happy to see him gone.

I would expect Nolan McCarthy to sign as a free agent shortly after the draft.

Garcia signed for $1.2 million and his catcher, Joe Jimenez, signed with Pittsburgh as a free agent.

Surprised McCarthy didn't get a chance from someone as the financial impact is minimal.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on July 14, 2020, 12:18:35 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on July 13, 2020, 08:07:54 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on June 11, 2020, 07:26:02 PM
Nick Garcia is the 79th overall pick by Pittsburgh.  I am sure many hitters in the SCIAC are happy to see him gone.

I would expect Nolan McCarthy to sign as a free agent shortly after the draft.

Garcia signed for $1.2 million and his catcher, Joe Jimenez, signed with Pittsburgh as a free agent.

Surprised McCarthy didn't get a chance from someone as the financial impact is minimal.

Jiminez signed before MILB was cancelled but for the most part I'm guessing that MLB has stopped signing free agents.  What's the point of adding players now?

Maybe Jiminez was signed primarily to work out with Garcia.

As for McCarthy, I guess he can stay in shape and hope for next year, or find a graduate opportunity, or move on.


Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on July 14, 2020, 03:02:41 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on July 14, 2020, 12:18:35 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on July 13, 2020, 08:07:54 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on June 11, 2020, 07:26:02 PM
Nick Garcia is the 79th overall pick by Pittsburgh.  I am sure many hitters in the SCIAC are happy to see him gone.

I would expect Nolan McCarthy to sign as a free agent shortly after the draft.

Garcia signed for $1.2 million and his catcher, Joe Jimenez, signed with Pittsburgh as a free agent.

Surprised McCarthy didn't get a chance from someone as the financial impact is minimal.

Jiminez signed before MILB was cancelled but for the most part I'm guessing that MLB has stopped signing free agents.  What's the point of adding players now?

Maybe Jiminez was signed primarily to work out with Garcia.

As for McCarthy, I guess he can stay in shape and hope for next year, or find a graduate opportunity, or move on.

I think I heard he had a really nice job lined up.  I'll have to confirm.

Also, Tom Butler is expected to be coming back.  He's very close to a double major so he'll finish that and get to play again. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on July 14, 2020, 03:30:01 PM
https://www.abca.org/ABCA/News/2020/ABCA_announces_Hall_of_Fame_Class_of_2021.aspx

Bill Anderson from Oxy will be inducted into the College Baseball Hall of Fame in 2021. Pretty cool.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on November 13, 2020, 07:07:33 PM
Anybody hearing anything?

I know that the SCIAC did a Zoom a couple weeks ago and said basically we want to play but we'll see what happens.

From what we have heard from my son's school's president, if the county permits on-campus residence and instruction, they will find a way to play some sort of season for spring sports.

But that's a big if, particularly in LA county, especially right now as cases skyrocket.

Maybe if Ventura, Orange and San Bernardino counties allow colleges to open, Redlands, Chapman, and Cal Lu can have their own little conference without the LA County schools.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on November 13, 2020, 07:18:28 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on November 13, 2020, 07:07:33 PM
Anybody hearing anything?

I know that the SCIAC did a Zoom a couple weeks ago and said basically we want to play but we'll see what happens.

From what we have heard from my son's school's president, if the county permits on-campus residence and instruction, they will find a way to play some sort of season for spring sports.

But that's a big if, particularly in LA county, especially right now as cases skyrocket.

Maybe if Ventura, Orange and San Bernardino counties allow colleges to open, Redlands, Chapman, and Cal Lu can have their own little conference without the LA County schools.

We've heard nothing other than they want/hope to play.  Like you said, it might be really hard to get the go-ahead from LA county.  I was hoping these smaller schools could come up with a creative way to get it done but I'm really not all that optimistic at this point. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on November 13, 2020, 07:28:35 PM
I think at least some are coming up with good plans, and can even make the case that having the kids on campus under a strict regimen is safer than having them off.   It's also creative that they are trying to bypass the health officials and take their case directly to the county supervisors. But they literally cannot do a damn thing without county approval.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on November 17, 2020, 04:53:19 PM
One of my sons teachers today told him today they had a teacher conference and were told they are not going back to campus in the Spring.  I guess we'll have to wait for the official confirmation, but that does not bode well for athletics.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on December 01, 2020, 08:33:15 PM
Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference called off conference competition, saying, "Institutions have the autonomy to decide whether they wish to permit conditioning, practicing, and other forms of competition as it relates to fall and winter sports during this spring semester."
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on February 10, 2021, 06:36:47 PM
Not unexpected but its official that Oxy will not have Varsity Sports this Spring.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dkcg808 on February 16, 2021, 04:43:07 PM
Dang, What about the other schools?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on February 16, 2021, 05:29:05 PM
Quote from: dkcg808 on February 16, 2021, 04:43:07 PM
Dang, What about the other schools?

Looks like Chapman, La Verne & Redlands are going to try and play.  Basically, the non LA teams.  However, there are some steps that need to be taken and Id be surprised if they even get to play.  I forgot the exact plan but its something like...3wks of quarantine, 3 wks of small groups, 3wks whole team/big group, 3 weeks of team scrimmages.  If someone gets COVID, they must quarantine for 10-14 days, be symptom free and also pass an EKG.   
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on February 22, 2021, 11:03:02 AM
Quote from: SoCal OG on February 16, 2021, 05:29:05 PM
Quote from: dkcg808 on February 16, 2021, 04:43:07 PM
Dang, What about the other schools?

Looks like Chapman, La Verne & Redlands are going to try and play.  Basically, the non LA teams.  However, there are some steps that need to be taken and Id be surprised if they even get to play.  I forgot the exact plan but its something like...3wks of quarantine, 3 wks of small groups, 3wks whole team/big group, 3 weeks of team scrimmages.  If someone gets COVID, they must quarantine for 10-14 days, be symptom free and also pass an EKG.

I had not heard this info, so thanks.  But like Oxy, PP, CMC, Whittier & Caltech, La Verne is in Los Angeles county, which is not letting college students on campus yet.  Cal Lu is in Ventura County and I think they have a few students on campus and may even be practicing.  Chapman is in Orange County, which has been more reluctant to impose restrictions. Redlands is in San Bernardino county, which is slightly less impacted than LAC so they may have a shot. Considering their national rankings I will not be surprised if Cal Lu and and Chapman do anything and everything they can to cobble together some kind of season that could qualify them for postseason play.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on February 22, 2021, 11:06:49 AM
Quote from: MIFDad on February 22, 2021, 11:03:02 AM
Quote from: SoCal OG on February 16, 2021, 05:29:05 PM
Quote from: dkcg808 on February 16, 2021, 04:43:07 PM
Dang, What about the other schools?

Looks like Chapman, La Verne & Redlands are going to try and play.  Basically, the non LA teams.  However, there are some steps that need to be taken and Id be surprised if they even get to play.  I forgot the exact plan but its something like...3wks of quarantine, 3 wks of small groups, 3wks whole team/big group, 3 weeks of team scrimmages.  If someone gets COVID, they must quarantine for 10-14 days, be symptom free and also pass an EKG.



I had not heard this info, so thanks.  But like Oxy, PP, CMC, Whittier & Caltech, La Verne is in Los Angeles county, which is not letting college students on campus yet.  Cal Lu is in Ventura County and I think they have a few students on campus and may even be practicing.  Chapman is in Orange County, which has been more reluctant to impose restrictions. Redlands is in San Bernardino county, which is slightly less impacted than LAC so they may have a shot. Considering their national rankings I will not be surprised if Cal Lu and and Chapman do anything and everything they can to cobble together some kind of season that could qualify them for postseason play.

You're right, I think I mixed up Cal Lu and La Verne.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 03, 2021, 02:33:39 PM
Some hope for games....

https://www.clusports.com/sports/bsb/2020-21/schedule
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 04, 2021, 12:17:43 PM
Sciac 2021 schedule:
https://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2020-21/schedule
Matches up with what Mr. Parkman posted.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on March 06, 2021, 05:15:23 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 04, 2021, 12:17:43 PM
Sciac 2021 schedule:
https://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2020-21/schedule
Matches up with what Mr. Parkman posted.

For those of us who are parents, fans, or players with the 5 LA County schools, this is truly maddening.

Edit - 6.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on March 18, 2021, 02:06:38 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on March 06, 2021, 05:15:23 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 04, 2021, 12:17:43 PM
Sciac 2021 schedule:
https://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2020-21/schedule
Matches up with what Mr. Parkman posted.

For those of us who are parents, fans, or players with the 5 LA County schools, this is truly maddening.

Edit - 6.

Its really rough watching everyone else play right now. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on March 22, 2021, 04:20:31 PM
Quote from: SoCal OG on March 18, 2021, 02:06:38 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on March 06, 2021, 05:15:23 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 04, 2021, 12:17:43 PM
Sciac 2021 schedule:
https://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2020-21/schedule
Matches up with what Mr. Parkman posted.

For those of us who are parents, fans, or players with the 5 LA County schools, this is truly maddening.

Edit - 6.

Its really rough watching everyone else play right now. 

Yes, it really is.  At least you have a couple more years to look forward to, if I'm not mistaken.  I thought I had one. My son is a senior and was all set to return and play as a grad student.  But last week he got a job offer that is too good to refuse.  I'm not happy about his baseball career being over. The fact that he'll be making a f-ton of money starting his professional career at a great company makes me feel better, but still.... it sucks.

I'm still hoping they'll find a way to put together a couple of games in April, but that's probably just a delusion on my part.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on March 22, 2021, 05:58:48 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on March 22, 2021, 04:20:31 PM
Quote from: SoCal OG on March 18, 2021, 02:06:38 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on March 06, 2021, 05:15:23 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 04, 2021, 12:17:43 PM
Sciac 2021 schedule:
https://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2020-21/schedule
Matches up with what Mr. Parkman posted.

For those of us who are parents, fans, or players with the 5 LA County schools, this is truly maddening.

Edit - 6.

Its really rough watching everyone else play right now. 

Yes, it really is.  At least you have a couple more years to look forward to, if I'm not mistaken.  I thought I had one. My son is a senior and was all set to return and play as a grad student.  But last week he got a job offer that is too good to refuse.  I'm not happy about his baseball career being over. The fact that he'll be making a f-ton of money starting his professional career at a great company makes me feel better, but still.... it sucks.

I'm still hoping they'll find a way to put together a couple of games in April, but that's probably just a delusion on my part.

Sorry about that, I truly feel for the 20/21 Sr class.  Not the way its supposed to go down.  Luckily my son does have two years left but I can already tell its just not the same.  His attitude has completely changed.  With everything that has happened I think he was forced to see the end of baseball before it really happened.  We'll see how it goes...I'm looking fwd to seeing him on the field again...and savor every second of it.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 23, 2021, 06:47:13 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 04, 2021, 12:17:43 PM
Sciac 2021 schedule:
https://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2020-21/schedule
Matches up with what Mr. Parkman posted.

With only 3 teams currently scheduled,

it will be much easier to make it into season ending SCIAC tournament.
Especially if they take the top 4 like they normally do.  ;D ;D 8-)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on March 26, 2021, 06:21:06 PM
Quote
With only 3 teams currently scheduled,

it will be much easier to make it into season ending SCIAC tournament.
Especially if they take the top 4 like they normally do.  ;D ;D 8-)

Road Trip!....

Time to head to Texas.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCalSoxFan on March 27, 2021, 07:03:56 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 26, 2021, 06:21:06 PM
Quote
With only 3 teams currently scheduled,

it will be much easier to make it into season ending SCIAC tournament.
Especially if they take the top 4 like they normally do.  ;D ;D 8-)

Road Trip!....

Time to head to Texas.
Agreed, Trinity is already quite busy.  10 games in and SCIAC is still at 0.


March 23, 2021
2021 D3baseball.com/NCBWA Week 5
Through games of Sunday, March 21, 2021:

#   School (1st votes)   Rec   Pts   Prev.
1   Trinity (Texas) (14)   9-1   601   1
2   Washington U. (3)   8-0   557   3
3   Cal Lutheran (5)   0-0   528   2
4   Salisbury   6-1   497   7
5   Webster (1)   8-1   482   8
6   Chapman   0-0   473   4
7   North Central (Ill.)   7-2   450   6
8   Southern Maine   4-0   421   11
9   Babson (1)   0-0   413   5
10   Aurora   9-0   405   13
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OxyBob on March 29, 2021, 08:25:10 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 03, 2021, 02:33:39 PM
Some hope for games....

https://www.clusports.com/sports/bsb/2020-21/schedule

I will try to get out to Redlands-CLU on April 10 to support the SCIAC. Hopefully I'll be able to find a place to sit and watch without being scolded by the maskholes.

OxyBob
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIFDad on March 30, 2021, 07:12:29 PM
Quote from: SoCal OG on March 22, 2021, 05:58:48 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on March 22, 2021, 04:20:31 PM
Quote from: SoCal OG on March 18, 2021, 02:06:38 PM
Quote from: MIFDad on March 06, 2021, 05:15:23 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 04, 2021, 12:17:43 PM
Sciac 2021 schedule:
https://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2020-21/schedule
Matches up with what Mr. Parkman posted.

For those of us who are parents, fans, or players with the 5 LA County schools, this is truly maddening.

Edit - 6.

Its really rough watching everyone else play right now. 

Yes, it really is.  At least you have a couple more years to look forward to, if I'm not mistaken.  I thought I had one. My son is a senior and was all set to return and play as a grad student.  But last week he got a job offer that is too good to refuse.  I'm not happy about his baseball career being over. The fact that he'll be making a f-ton of money starting his professional career at a great company makes me feel better, but still.... it sucks.

I'm still hoping they'll find a way to put together a couple of games in April, but that's probably just a delusion on my part.

Sorry about that, I truly feel for the 20/21 Sr class.  Not the way its supposed to go down.  Luckily my son does have two years left but I can already tell its just not the same.  His attitude has completely changed.  With everything that has happened I think he was forced to see the end of baseball before it really happened.  We'll see how it goes...I'm looking fwd to seeing him on the field again...and savor every second of it.

Sorry to hear that about your son.  I heard from reputable source a couple days ago that La Verne is trying to ramp up and play some games.

>:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on August 17, 2021, 02:16:57 PM
A little late, but Pomona's Ryan Long was drafted in the 17th round of the 2021 MLB draft by the Orioles https://www.mlb.com/draft/tracker/2021/all/team/orioles (https://www.mlb.com/draft/tracker/2021/all/team/orioles). Obviously, Ryan hadn't been able to pitch for the Sagehens since the season was shutdown in 2020. However, he did appear in 4 games this summer for the Cotuit Kettleers in the Cape Cod League. Ryan signed with the O's, and in so doing forewent transferring to Georgetown to play in the Big East and pursue a master's degree. Congrats to Ryan!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SoCal OG on January 30, 2022, 03:01:22 PM
Watched my first game in two years yesterday!!  Soo happy to see the boys back on the field.  Looking forward to seeing more SCIAC baseball.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 06, 2022, 03:44:22 AM
Wake up everybody, it's baseball season!   8-)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 27, 2022, 06:50:55 PM
First SCIAC rotation in the books.
Cal Lu sweeps Cal Tech
Oxy sweeps Whittier    :(
Redlands takes 2 of 3 from P-P

CMS has yet to lose a a non-conference series
Chapman and ULV are just getting out of the gate

Too early to call who will be the top 4 but it seems pretty apparent that the battle for the cellar is going down next weekend between Whittier and Cal Tech.  COVID seems to have stifled the forward progress of Cal Tech and it has absolutely wrecked the Poets.  I hate to think that Whittier could lose this series but right now they are struggling to keep runs off the board.  Cal Tech seems to have a similar affliction, so this series shapes up to be a toss up...but for the wrong reasons.  Neither seems to be competitive other than with each other, this is a tilt to see who is worse, not who is better.

Personally, I hope Whittier finds it within themselves to step up, lift their game, and meet the challenge...and maybe gain confidence to pull out of this swoon.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 05, 2022, 01:07:44 PM
Round 1 goes to the Poets...it's a step in the right direction...DH at Pasadena today.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 05, 2022, 04:25:00 PM
Cal Tech is 3 outs away from taking G2 and setting up a winner take all G3...yoiks.

About to board a cross country flight, won't be able following the game live.  Will land to the big reveal.  Can Cal Tech break through?  Can Whittier step up and stave off ignominy?

Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 06, 2022, 11:19:31 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 05, 2022, 04:25:00 PM
Cal Tech is 3 outs away from taking G2 and setting up a winner take all G3...yoiks.

About to board a cross country flight, won't be able following the game live.  Will land to the big reveal.  Can Cal Tech break though?  Can Whittier step up and stave off ignominy?

And the Beavers sweep the double header and take the series 2-1. First SCIAC series win for Caltech since the early 70's.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 06, 2022, 11:40:49 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 06, 2022, 11:19:31 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 05, 2022, 04:25:00 PM
Cal Tech is 3 outs away from taking G2 and setting up a winner take all G3...yoiks.

About to board a cross country flight, won't be able following the game live.  Will land to the big reveal.  Can Cal Tech break though?  Can Whittier step up and stave off ignominy?

And the Beavers sweep the double header and take the series 2-1. First SCIAC series win for Caltech since the early 70's.

Oh the humanity... :'(
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 06, 2022, 11:44:11 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 06, 2022, 11:40:49 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 06, 2022, 11:19:31 AM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 05, 2022, 04:25:00 PM
Cal Tech is 3 outs away from taking G2 and setting up a winner take all G3...yoiks.

About to board a cross country flight, won't be able following the game live.  Will land to the big reveal.  Can Cal Tech break though?  Can Whittier step up and stave off ignominy?

And the Beavers sweep the double header and take the series 2-1. First SCIAC series win for Caltech since the early 70's.

Oh the humanity... :'(

Actually, that's not fair to Cal Tech, who proved to be the better team.  Congratulations to them on getting this G-O-rilla off their backs.  It was truly only a question of when.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 07, 2022, 12:06:39 AM
I have often thought that Cal Tech is in the wrong conference. MIT draws from the same pool of student-athletes and has had a modicum of success. For Cal Tech's sake, it is too bad that the SCIAC is such a strong baseball conference.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on March 07, 2022, 05:16:49 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 07, 2022, 12:06:39 AM
I have often thought that Cal Tech is in the wrong conference. MIT draws from the same pool of student-athletes and has had a modicum of success. For Cal Tech's sake, it is too bad that the SCIAC is such a strong baseball conference.
MIT has 4 times the students.  The real key for Caltech (as baseball from MLB on down) is getting pitching.  Maybe they have one or two. :-\
One of the pitchers had a complete game, and the other pitched eight innings.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 07, 2022, 07:29:34 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on March 07, 2022, 05:16:49 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 07, 2022, 12:06:39 AM
I have often thought that Cal Tech is in the wrong conference. MIT draws from the same pool of student-athletes and has had a modicum of success. For Cal Tech's sake, it is too bad that the SCIAC is such a strong baseball conference.
MIT has 4 times the students.  The real key for Caltech (as baseball from MLB on down) is getting pitching.  Maybe they have one or two. :-\
One of the pitchers had a complete game, and the other pitched eight innings.

Cal Tech's coach is a former catcher, that's gotta play in there somehow.  During the last couple years of his tenure as asst. coach at Whittier, the pitching was notably sound.  He's a good dude.  I was happy for him to get the gig, but also leery that just this very thing would occur.

But the Cal Tech I've seen the last 8 years has always had 1 good starter and ridden him hard to squeeze a win.  Krop class of 2018 I think was a darn bulldog of a pitcher and could've got good innings with any SCIAC team. 
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 11, 2022, 11:24:03 PM
The horror.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 18, 2022, 11:01:30 PM
It could've been worse but Chapman missed 2 PAT's.   :-\
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 18, 2022, 11:10:01 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 07, 2022, 12:06:39 AM
I have often thought that Cal Tech is in the wrong conference. MIT draws from the same pool of student-athletes and has had a modicum of success. For Cal Tech's sake, it is too bad that the SCIAC is such a strong baseball conference.

Not necessarily.  I recall a few years ago Cal Tech really wanted a particular basketball recruit, but couldn't get him admitted.  He went to his 'safety school' instead - MIT! ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 21, 2022, 12:52:04 PM
Not sure what to make of the SCIAC yet as the conference schedule is still young. La Verne, Cal Lu, Chapman, and Pomona are all well above .500, with Redlands recently climbing above. CMS played really well in non-conference games but have struggled with Chapman and ULV, although they have lost leads late in many of those games.

Caltech is winning some games and looks to be able to steal a game each series. Oxy has been really bad on the mound while giving up 10 runs a game. Whittier is having a forgettable season and I don't expect it to get any better. I think it's a 6 team race for the 4 spots in the conference tourney.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on March 26, 2022, 02:08:26 PM
Oxy pitchers have been spending time winning Wheel of Fortune instead of pitching.

https://www.oxy.edu/news/caleb-reyes-22-comes-big-wheel-fortune?fbclid=IwAR22j2jAjvBWQu6wjMUqmhEbAktxIygbysJtKLlv-zBOMeEdYKu3ck1Qr0k
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 27, 2022, 05:09:59 PM
Glad to see that Whittier bowed up and took G3 from #17 CLU.  Beating a ranked team is big regardless, but in the wake of 2 run-ruled games it certainly speaks to character and competitive spirit.  Nice going, Poets.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 28, 2022, 02:07:25 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 27, 2022, 05:09:59 PM
Glad to see that Whittier bowed up and took G3 from #17 CLU.  Beating a ranked team is big regardless, but in the wake of 2 run-ruled games it certainly speaks to character and competitive spirit.  Nice going, Poets.

Poets went for 2 and the win in another football score game.   8-)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 02, 2022, 04:27:23 PM
COVID hit this board as hard as SCIAC opponents hit the Poets' pitching this year...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 06, 2022, 09:57:56 PM
Whittier takes G1 from Redlands, and in so doing avoids the SCIAC cellar.

Notably held the Bulldogs to less than a touchdown to help secure the W.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on May 07, 2022, 04:36:01 PM
Chapman and La Verne squaring off for the #1 regular season slot.  Chapman takes G1 and is looking secure in G2.  If I'm not mistaken, if Chapman takes G2 they clinch the regular season crown.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 07, 2022, 04:52:23 PM
Chapman gets then#1 seed and are scorching hot. La Verne will get the 2 seed and host Friday. Assuming Pomona does not give up a 14 run lead, they will take the 3 seed and Cal Lu rounds it out in the 4 spot.

I do believe the SCIAC will get 2 teams in, but stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 07, 2022, 09:02:57 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 07, 2022, 04:52:23 PM
Chapman gets then#1 seed and are scorching hot. La Verne will get the 2 seed and host Friday. Assuming Pomona does not give up a 14 run lead, they will take the 3 seed and Cal Lu rounds it out in the 4 spot.

I do believe the SCIAC will get 2 teams in, but stranger things have happened.
Yes, put a 4-pod in SoCal, fly Pacific and a team TBA to SoCal. Have SCAC and ASC Pool A's face off in the 2-pod and then make construct your Super-Regional from those 2 brackets.  Just my thoughts...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 08, 2022, 02:39:09 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 07, 2022, 09:02:57 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 07, 2022, 04:52:23 PM
Chapman gets then#1 seed and are scorching hot. La Verne will get the 2 seed and host Friday. Assuming Pomona does not give up a 14 run lead, they will take the 3 seed and Cal Lu rounds it out in the 4 spot.

I do believe the SCIAC will get 2 teams in, but stranger things have happened.
Yes, put a 4-pod in SoCal, fly Pacific and a team TBA to SoCal. Have SCAC and ASC Pool A's face off in the 2-pod and then make construct your Super-Regional from those 2 brackets.  Just my thoughts...

I am less confident in the SCIAC getting a 2nd bid, unless Chapman fails to win the SCIAC tournament. La Verne went 1-5 in their final 6 conference games, and Pomona matched them at 1-5. Both were swept by Chapman.

La Verne is going to rely on their 3 starters and their closer. It looks like any other pitchers are getting in during mop-up duty. It seems like they might be running out of gas.

Pomona lost their #2 guy and have given up a lot of runs recently. I feel like their pitching is running out of steam as well.

Cal Lu has been up and down all year. They went 3-1 against Chapman, 2-2 agains La Verne, and 1-2 against Pomona. They managed only 1 sweep in SCIAC play (Caltech).

Chapman is playing out of their mind right now. They are mashing everything thrown at them and their arms have been really solid.

I don't see anyone in this group having enough to come out of the losers bracket in the SCIAC tournament or a 4-team regional.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on May 11, 2022, 02:47:13 PM
All Conference 2022:

https://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2021-22/releases/20220510og0fsw
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 13, 2022, 08:45:13 PM
Chapman and Cal Lu tied at 8 in the Chapman bottom of the 8th.

Runners on 1st and 2nd, single thru to right field. Runner on 2nd, Davis Mielewock, comes home and is thrown out at home, on a perfect throw. Putout is 9-2, Blandino to Durfee.

Cal Lu has gone up with Blandino walking, stealing second and scoring on Carrillo's double. Cal Lu leads 4-3 going to the bottom of the 9th.


Final Cal Lu 4, Chapman 3

and

La Verne  scores 2 in the bottom of the 8th to beat Pomona-Pitzer 4-3.

Both great games.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 14, 2022, 09:21:18 AM
Two very good games to kick off the SCIAC Tournament. Cal Lu beats Chapman late and runs their record to 4-1 against Chapman this year. I think the Panthers are in line to host next week but their 10-game winning streak is snapped.

La Verne scores the tying run on a triple that was lost in the sun and the winning run on a wild pitch/pass ball. La Verne pitched backwards and used two starters in the game and should have their #1 going today.

An interesting note about the SCIAC tourney is all games will produce results against regionally ranked opponents.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 15, 2022, 08:53:44 AM
Cal Lu and Pomona square off today for the auto-bid. Cal Lu hung on against La Verne and Pomona had just enough last night to eliminate the Leo's. This have been a very good SCIAC Tournament and Pomona needs to win twice today. Last nights game ended at 9:41pm and today kicks off at 11am so they could be running on fumes, but anything can happen.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ludawg6 on May 16, 2022, 03:22:11 PM
It is not often that I chime in... HOWEVER... so, lets just reset the SCIAC tourney and replace LaVerne with Pacific??? BS in my mind and quite lazy to take the easy way out...and don't give me this "is all about who they fly in" garbage... the NCAA has the scratch to pay for it... Just lazy in my eyes... maybe the hotel will give them a frequent traveler discount...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 16, 2022, 06:23:59 PM
Quote from: ludawg6 on May 16, 2022, 03:22:11 PM
It is not often that I chime in... HOWEVER... so, lets just reset the SCIAC tourney and replace LaVerne with Pacific??? BS in my mind and quite lazy to take the easy way out...and don't give me this "is all about who they fly in" garbage... the NCAA has the scratch to pay for it... Just lazy in my eyes... maybe the hotel will give them a frequent traveler discount...
Respectfully ludawg6, the SCIAC just got big recognition with 2 Pool C bids.

IMHO, they earned them. When you look at who was on the board for those late picks (probably #16 thru #18) the SCIAC teams were the best.

The West Region has been, by far, the strongest region the D3. For review for newcomers, since 2013, Linfield has won.
Trinity TX in 2016
Cal Lu in 2017
UT Tyler (a #6 seed in the Sauget IL regional and probably the last Pool C) beat Texas Lutheran in the Finals for the 2018 crown.
Chapman won in 2019.
No champ in 2020.
Pacific was one-half inning away from going to Cedar Rapids, losing to the national Championship Finalist St Thomas MN in the Regional Finals in 2021.

I thought that the SCIAC was the most competitive conference in the country this year. The traditional powerhouses, NJAC, SUNYAC and WIAC all had strong teams but the SCIAC looked the most unpredictable on a game by game basis.

For once, I am glad that the West Region and SCIAC get the nod on a close call, as happens at the end of the Pool C selections.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 16, 2022, 06:57:01 PM
Quote from: ludawg6 on May 16, 2022, 03:22:11 PM
It is not often that I chime in... HOWEVER... so, lets just reset the SCIAC tourney and replace LaVerne with Pacific??? BS in my mind and quite lazy to take the easy way out...and don't give me this "is all about who they fly in" garbage... the NCAA has the scratch to pay for it... Just lazy in my eyes... maybe the hotel will give them a frequent traveler discount...

I agree this is a bad look once again for this tournament.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ludawg6 on May 16, 2022, 09:37:46 PM
Done get me wrong, loving the 2 pool C  bids, but if CalLu had not won the tourney there would have been only two...

However... why not give CalLu or PP that best of five host.... I mean Chapman technically didnt have to show up and still get the host and #1 seed...however I understand the logistics-no lights at either PP or CalLu (and this former CalLu baseball alum doesnt have the $$$ to donate those lights)... BUT... they could have flown in both those two teams....

CalLu hasnt hosted a regional since 1997 and that was at Moorpark College because let's face it, our field sucked.... but we now have a beautiful stadium and the committee wont let us show it off... and dont think for a second that Slim didnt put in to host... perennial powerhouse with a 2017 ring and still no nod...

We swept the SCIAC tourney and only get some tshirts and a plaque to show for it....

Reboot next weekend....

A lazy cop-out by the committee in my eyes...

Doesnt matter anyway, our 1990 team would have wiped the floor with all of them!!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 17, 2022, 12:39:35 AM
Did CalLu submit a bid to host?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ludawg6 on May 17, 2022, 08:28:12 AM
Not privy to any of that information,  but this ain't Slim's first rodeo... I would think that he applies every year, but without lights it makes it hard to secure the bid...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 17, 2022, 10:27:11 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 16, 2022, 06:57:01 PM
Quote from: ludawg6 on May 16, 2022, 03:22:11 PM
It is not often that I chime in... HOWEVER... so, lets just reset the SCIAC tourney and replace LaVerne with Pacific??? BS in my mind and quite lazy to take the easy way out...and don't give me this "is all about who they fly in" garbage... the NCAA has the scratch to pay for it... Just lazy in my eyes... maybe the hotel will give them a frequent traveler discount...

I agree this is a bad look once again for this tournament.
Respectfully, I consider the SCAIC one of the power conferences in D3 Baseball, to go with the NJAC, SUNYAC and WIAC. The conference has had 2 of the last 4 Champions. It is perfectly plausible for the committee to have considered it worthy of 2 Pool C bids this year. (I will leave the discussion for other power conferences for another time.)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on February 02, 2023, 05:07:54 PM
2023 Preseason Poll

https://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2022-23/releases/202301312zbniz
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on February 24, 2023, 06:18:28 PM
Cal Tech notches a SCIAC W over Oxy...
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: olddog on March 13, 2023, 12:09:45 PM
Beating Oxy in any sport is not a big deal as compared to 15 years ago all pride has been lost,....school has gone in a different direction, the word is not well liked on this board but it rhymes with joke
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on March 13, 2023, 07:02:25 PM
Quote from: olddog on March 13, 2023, 12:09:45 PM
Beating Oxy in any sport is not a big deal as compared to 15 years ago all pride has been lost,....school has gone in a different direction, the word is not well liked on this board but it rhymes with joke
CMS does well in most sports every year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Purple Heys on March 20, 2023, 10:41:06 PM
Whittier registers first SCIAC W, knocking off Chapman in G2.  The Poets get a good and much needed win; Chapman is once again vexed by Whittier in what has been a not so irregular occurrence.  Whittier has struggled this season but they found their "Chapman Mode" powerup for one game.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 21, 2023, 01:24:22 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on March 20, 2023, 10:41:06 PM
Whittier registers first SCIAC W, knocking off Chapman in G2.  The Poets get a good and much needed win; Chapman is once again vexed by Whittier in what has been a not so irregular occurrence.  Whittier has struggled this season but they found their "Chapman Mode" powerup for one game.

Poets always seem to find a way to beat good teams. It's been a forgettable year for a few SCIAC teams and some that have been really up and down. Will be interesting to see who makes the top 4 and I don't think there is a clear favorite at this point.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DickWhitman on May 09, 2023, 07:30:27 AM
Hello, I'm new here. I've been following the SCIAC for a couple years and I'm excited to watch the tournament. CMS looks like they have a good chance but they'll need to figure out how to beat La Verne.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 09, 2023, 11:42:50 AM
Quote from: DickWhitman on May 09, 2023, 07:30:27 AM
Hello, I'm new here. I've been following the SCIAC for a couple years and I'm excited to watch the tournament. CMS looks like they have a good chance but they'll need to figure out how to beat La Verne.

I am very confident CMS will be selected for a regional regardless of what happens this weekend. I have a few concerns about them overall (close series with Redlands, close games with Whittier and Oxy, and needed two last-AB victories over Caltech). That being said, they have had a great year and are trending in a very positive direction.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DickWhitman on May 15, 2023, 06:50:07 AM
I agree. Great season overall. I would have liked to see at least 1 win in the tournament to lock up the bid.

How do you think the roster looks to make another run next year?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ludawg6 on July 06, 2023, 08:59:33 PM
You all are asleep at the wheel... Slim retired a few weeks ago, made it social media official today... a dear friend and an all around great guy... congrats to him on a great career but nothing, not even a national championship can replace that first year... Shock the World!!! Love ya Slim and hope to see you and Donna soon!!!... DW#6
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 10, 2023, 10:21:33 AM
Cal Lutheran's announcement of Coach Marty Slimak's retirement.

https://www.clusports.com/sports/bsb/2022-23/releases/20230706r6ekkg
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on July 13, 2023, 10:01:44 PM
 A couple of MLB draftees listed here by way of Redlands and Cal Lu

https://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2023/07/2023-players-drafted
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ludawg6 on September 14, 2023, 04:11:56 PM
Again in the late to the part and worst kept secret departments... Congrats to Erik Scherer on the new gig... program in good hands!!!
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on September 14, 2023, 05:38:04 PM
Quote from: ludawg6 on September 14, 2023, 04:11:56 PM
Again in the late to the part and worst kept secret departments... Congrats to Erik Scherer on the new gig... program in good hands!!!

Can't believe they waited this long to go with the only logical choice. Pumped for Scherer and excited to see him continue the tradition.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DickWhitman on September 25, 2023, 03:50:15 PM
Are there any podcasts or twitter accounts recommended to a new follower of D3 baseball, specifically the west region?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DickWhitman on February 21, 2024, 07:13:33 PM
Great to see this board back up. Exciting first couple weeks of the season. PP looks like a strong contender. I'm looking forward to seeing some great conference games. It is going to be a battle to make the SCIAC conference this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on February 22, 2024, 09:42:11 AM
Definitely going to be a battle all year. It is a 6 or 7 team race for the top 4 spots. Curious to see who steps it up this year.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 22, 2024, 07:51:10 PM
Yes. The SCIAC is strong this year.
I saw the PP series win over ETBU.
Impressive.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DickWhitman on February 27, 2024, 06:28:38 PM
I was surprised to see ETB at number 8 in the rankings and PP not even in the top 25. And who are the two voters to put JHU ahead of BW?

This weekend will have some interesting games. Can CMS continue to put up huge numbers?
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DickWhitman on March 16, 2024, 11:49:30 AM
The SCIAC is on fire! 5 really good teams. The OOC record is solid (minus Chapman the past week or so)
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Teddy_Ballgame on March 20, 2024, 01:08:11 PM
Fun 9-3 win for Pomona-Pitzer over DI Dartmouth College on Monday. Hens were in control the entire way, and this was a day after I watched Dartmouth beat the snot out of LMU for the second day in a row. PP now has transitive property wins over USC, Arizona, Michigan, and a bunch of others  ;D
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on March 20, 2024, 01:26:52 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on March 20, 2024, 01:08:11 PMFun 9-3 win for Pomona-Pitzer over DI Dartmouth College on Monday. Hens were in control the entire way, and this was a day after I watched Dartmouth beat the snot out of LMU for the second day in a row. PP now has transitive property wins over USC, Arizona, Michigan, and a bunch of others  ;D
D3Baseball has 3 SCIAC teams in the top 25 plus two more receiving votes.  Tough league.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DickWhitman on March 20, 2024, 06:52:05 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on March 20, 2024, 01:26:52 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on March 20, 2024, 01:08:11 PMFun 9-3 win for Pomona-Pitzer over DI Dartmouth College on Monday. Hens were in control the entire way, and this was a day after I watched Dartmouth beat the snot out of LMU for the second day in a row. PP now has transitive property wins over USC, Arizona, Michigan, and a bunch of others  ;D
D3Baseball has 3 SCIAC teams in the top 25 plus two more receiving votes.  Tough league.

Tough indeed. The good hitting is to be expected. The top end of the pitching is better than I expected this year. I'm looking forward to seeing some of these conference matchups.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 22, 2024, 12:15:34 AM
I can imagine a #4 conference tourney seed, getting hot and going deep in the NCAA's.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on March 22, 2024, 12:16:47 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 22, 2024, 12:15:34 AMI can imagine a #4 conference tourney seed, getting hot and going deep in the NCAA's.

Yes, sometimes the balls have eyes.
Title: Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on March 22, 2024, 12:47:51 PM
Quote from: DickWhitman on March 20, 2024, 06:52:05 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on March 20, 2024, 01:26:52 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on March 20, 2024, 01:08:11 PMFun 9-3 win for Pomona-Pitzer over DI Dartmouth College on Monday. Hens were in control the entire way, and this was a day after I watched Dartmouth beat the snot out of LMU for the second day in a row. PP now has transitive property wins over USC, Arizona, Michigan, and a bunch of others  ;D
D3Baseball has 3 SCIAC teams in the top 25 plus two more receiving votes.  Tough league.

Tough indeed. The good hitting is to be expected. The top end of the pitching is better than I expected this year. I'm looking forward to seeing some of these conference matchups.
Even Caltech has a top pitcher who is only a soph.