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olddog

Quote from: USee on December 29, 2016, 06:04:09 PM
Quote from: USee on December 29, 2016, 02:58:49 PM
Emma,

Just so we are looking at facts:

UR was down 28-37 with 5:13 left in the 3rd, had the ball deep in MHB territory (MHB 3--after a 63 yd KO return), with a chance to make it a one score game and was stopped on downs. That was their only possession in MHB territory in the 2nd half.

Wheaton was down 9-17 with 5:24 to go in the 3rd (INT return for TD) Wheaton then had the ball, down 16-31 deep in MHB territory (MHB 15--after an 11 play 66 yd drive), in the mid 4th quarter,  with a chance to make it a one score game and was stopped on downs. Wheaton had the ball 4x in MHB territory in the second half and scored TD's 2x.

Linfield took the 2nd half kick and drove to the MHB 32 with approximately 10 min left in the 3rd, down 13-3, and was stopped on downs. They made it to MHB territory 3 more times in the second half and had the PR TD. 

So Wheaton trailed by 8 pts at the exact same time in the game that UR trailed by 9. Wheaton had 4 chances in MHB territory and UR had 1 in the second half. To say UR had a better chance than Wheaton did  to win the game in the second half is a bit of a stretch.

re-post with correct Linfield info.

UR outplayed Wheaton and LF in the playoff, sorry .....it happens ...
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Pat Coleman

Quote from: olddog on January 03, 2017, 03:09:18 PM
Quote from: USee on December 29, 2016, 06:04:09 PM
Quote from: USee on December 29, 2016, 02:58:49 PM
Emma,

Just so we are looking at facts:

UR was down 28-37 with 5:13 left in the 3rd, had the ball deep in MHB territory (MHB 3--after a 63 yd KO return), with a chance to make it a one score game and was stopped on downs. That was their only possession in MHB territory in the 2nd half.

Wheaton was down 9-17 with 5:24 to go in the 3rd (INT return for TD) Wheaton then had the ball, down 16-31 deep in MHB territory (MHB 15--after an 11 play 66 yd drive), in the mid 4th quarter,  with a chance to make it a one score game and was stopped on downs. Wheaton had the ball 4x in MHB territory in the second half and scored TD's 2x.

Linfield took the 2nd half kick and drove to the MHB 32 with approximately 10 min left in the 3rd, down 13-3, and was stopped on downs. They made it to MHB territory 3 more times in the second half and had the PR TD. 

So Wheaton trailed by 8 pts at the exact same time in the game that UR trailed by 9. Wheaton had 4 chances in MHB territory and UR had 1 in the second half. To say UR had a better chance than Wheaton did  to win the game in the second half is a bit of a stretch.

re-post with correct Linfield info.

UR outplayed Wheaton and LF in the playoff

In your opinion.
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olddog

Yes Pat in my opinion....UR out played Wheaton and LF in the playoffs. I watched all the games

My original statement that started this fun, "was I wish UR would have drawn LF in the first round". If UR ever had a chance of an upset it was this year. I thought LF was overrated (my opinion) based on watching several games on the web and UR was improving as the season went along. It is clear to this old coach, UR played MHB better than LF did (LF was never in the games)....so UR would have a chance. LF d line was not as good as in the past and UR line had improved. I thought UR had more team speed than LF too. LF had the better QB of course. I think UR had the most team speed of any team MHB played in the playoffs...Osh front 7 is quicker than UR but DB/WRs at UR were quicker than Osh. UR's kick returner out ran MHB...that is tough to do.

I find human being so interesting when it comes to their team and someone thinking they are not as good as they think....why they care is beyond me.
Even LF has down years...
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DFWCrufan

#17838
It is so funny to see UMHB talk over here, not to knock it, but it's quiet on our boards. It's interesting the thoughts of who should be MVP, all three are captains, all three were selected to lead the Cru, and if you read things right all three were part of the 2015 rebuild. It was determined after 2015 that there was a need for leadership changes, and those three were selected to head that leadership change, so all of your choices are dead on balls accurate. (it's a technical term)
I think this is why the Crufaithful believed from the outset that there was something about this team and that from the leadership aspect they could go all the way, which paid out...Jackson. Smith, Mullens and of course others lead this team, marshaled them to stay focused. All are great leaders, all are great athletes, but as coach had said in his weekly show, it was the team leadership that really changed the esprit de corps, it will be interesting to see who rises to the MVP spot. While I lean  toward Baylor Mullens and also lean more towards Teidrick Smith.
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olddog

MHB qb is there MVP......the other are better football players, but he is the MVP...
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SaintsFAN

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 03, 2017, 04:27:11 PM
Quote from: olddog on January 03, 2017, 03:09:18 PM
Quote from: USee on December 29, 2016, 06:04:09 PM
Quote from: USee on December 29, 2016, 02:58:49 PM
Emma,

Just so we are looking at facts:

UR was down 28-37 with 5:13 left in the 3rd, had the ball deep in MHB territory (MHB 3--after a 63 yd KO return), with a chance to make it a one score game and was stopped on downs. That was their only possession in MHB territory in the 2nd half.

Wheaton was down 9-17 with 5:24 to go in the 3rd (INT return for TD) Wheaton then had the ball, down 16-31 deep in MHB territory (MHB 15--after an 11 play 66 yd drive), in the mid 4th quarter,  with a chance to make it a one score game and was stopped on downs. Wheaton had the ball 4x in MHB territory in the second half and scored TD's 2x.

Linfield took the 2nd half kick and drove to the MHB 32 with approximately 10 min left in the 3rd, down 13-3, and was stopped on downs. They made it to MHB territory 3 more times in the second half and had the PR TD. 

So Wheaton trailed by 8 pts at the exact same time in the game that UR trailed by 9. Wheaton had 4 chances in MHB territory and UR had 1 in the second half. To say UR had a better chance than Wheaton did  to win the game in the second half is a bit of a stretch.

re-post with correct Linfield info.

UR outplayed Wheaton and LF in the playoff

In your extremely biased opinion.

Fixed that for you.
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olddog

Yes in my extremely biased opinion being down 38-27 and on your opponents half yard line in the fourth is less competitive than being down 27-3 most of the fourth with the best qb in D3 or being down 31-16 for the majority of the fourth,  like Wheaton, loosing 38-16...great points....thanks for everyone straightening me out. This is pure humor, that fans of loosing teams even care that I think UR clearly outplayed their losing team vs. the eventual national champ.
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MonroviaCat

Quote from: olddog on January 09, 2017, 11:50:47 AM
Yes in my extremely biased opinion being down 38-27 and on your opponents half yard line in the fourth is less competitive than being down 27-3 most of the fourth with the best qb in D3 or being down 31-16 for the majority of the fourth,  like Wheaton, loosing 38-16...great points....thanks for everyone straightening me out. This is pure humor, that fans of loosing teams even care that I think UR clearly outplayed their losing team vs. the eventual national champ.
For what it's worth--us fans of the "loosing" teams stopped arguing with you weeks ago--now it's just unbiased opinions providing you with laughs.
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SaintsFAN

Quote from: olddog on January 09, 2017, 11:50:47 AM
Yes in my extremely biased opinion being down 38-27 and on your opponents half yard line in the fourth is less competitive than being down 27-3 most of the fourth with the best qb in D3 or being down 31-16 for the majority of the fourth,  like Wheaton, loosing 38-16...great points....thanks for everyone straightening me out. This is pure humor, that fans of loosing teams even care that I think UR clearly outplayed their losing team vs. the eventual national champ.

No.  You're choosing to believe one idea and I've chosen another.  I have no dog in this fight, yet you do. 

As Monrovia Cat said; I'm extremely neutral.  I'm quite sure Pat is and USee is very analytical. 
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D O.C.

A 2 loss season with both of them being to the National Champion.
Just sayin'....

olddog

Quote from: D O.C. on January 09, 2017, 01:57:43 PM
A 2 loss season with both of them being to the National Champion.
Just sayin'....

just a mere 56 points from being undefeated.
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olddog

Quote from: SaintsFAN on January 09, 2017, 12:10:12 PM
Quote from: olddog on January 09, 2017, 11:50:47 AM
Yes in my extremely biased opinion being down 38-27 and on your opponents half yard line in the fourth is less competitive than being down 27-3 most of the fourth with the best qb in D3 or being down 31-16 for the majority of the fourth,  like Wheaton, loosing 38-16...great points....thanks for everyone straightening me out. This is pure humor, that fans of loosing teams even care that I think UR clearly outplayed their losing team vs. the eventual national champ.

No.  You're choosing to believe one idea and I've chosen another.  I have no dog in this fight, yet you do. 

As Monrovia Cat said; I'm extremely neutral.  I'm quite sure Pat is and USee is very analytical.

No Dawg in this fight, just a simple and straight forward observation..
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Pat Coleman

Quote from: olddog on January 09, 2017, 04:01:29 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on January 09, 2017, 01:57:43 PM
A 2 loss season with both of them being to the National Champion.
Just sayin'....

just a mere 56 points from being undefeated.

Kind of different than losing to a 5-5 team.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

wildcat11

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 09, 2017, 04:26:05 PM
Quote from: olddog on January 09, 2017, 04:01:29 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on January 09, 2017, 01:57:43 PM
A 2 loss season with both of them being to the National Champion.
Just sayin'....

just a mere 56 points from being undefeated.

Kind of different than losing to a 5-5 team.

...and only beating Pomona-Pitzer by 2.

Jack Parkman

Quote from: wildcat11 on January 09, 2017, 04:28:47 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 09, 2017, 04:26:05 PM
Quote from: olddog on January 09, 2017, 04:01:29 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on January 09, 2017, 01:57:43 PM
A 2 loss season with both of them being to the National Champion.
Just sayin'....

just a mere 56 points from being undefeated.

Kind of different than losing to a 5-5 team.

...and only beating Pomona-Pitzer by 2.

And needing to score 15 points (6 on a pretty legit 98 yard TD pass) in the 4th quarter to beat 4-5 Cal Lu.