Who are the leading candidates for the Player of the Year in 2010?
Kevin Brashears, Shenandoah
Kelson Brown, Linfield
Kyle Eller, Huntingdon
Josh Fyffe, Penn St. Behrend
Evan Jones, Trinity (Texas)
Dave Kahn, Johns Hopkins
Brian Youchak, Johns Hopkins
who else?
...and Pitcher of the Year?
Jeremy Chapman, Mitchell
Nolan Corr, Wheaton (Ma.)
David Drinks, DeSales
Dave Filak, Oneonta State
Pat Gale, Staten Island
Brad Orosey, Texas Lutheran
Shane Zellers, Alvernia
who else?
Unlike the last few years there are no truly dominate player in the mode of Drew Hedman and Derek David. The same goes on the pitching side.
Joey Aiello, Carthage
Hitting above .460 right now and slugging over .700.
Stefan Neese, Greenville
hitting .473 and slugging over .900
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 28, 2010, 03:23:18 PM
...and Pitcher of the Year?
Jeremy Chapman, Mitchell
Nolan Corr, Wheaton (Ma.)
David Drinks, DeSales
Dave Filak, Oneonta State
Pat Gale, Staten Island
Brad Orosey, Texas Lutheran
Shane Zellers, Alvernia
who else?
Brian Rauh, Chapman
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 28, 2010, 03:32:56 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 28, 2010, 03:23:18 PM
...and Pitcher of the Year?
Jeremy Chapman, Mitchell
Nolan Corr, Wheaton (Ma.)
David Drinks, DeSales
Dave Filak, Oneonta State
Pat Gale, Staten Island
Brad Orosey, Texas Lutheran
Shane Zellers, Alvernia
who else?
Brian Rauh, Chapman
Sam Eagleson, Johns Hopkins
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 28, 2010, 03:15:34 PM
Who are the leading candidates for the Player of the Year in 2010?
Kevin Brashears, Shenandoah
Kelson Brown, Linfield
Kyle Eller, Huntingdon
Josh Fyffe, Penn St. Behrend
Evan Jones, Trinity (Texas)
Dave Kahn, Johns Hopkins
Brian Youchak, Johns Hopkins
who else?
Just to provide some context for what these guys Jim mentioned have done thus far:
Kevin Brashears, Shenandoah - .449 avg, .805 SLG, 14 HR, 57 RBIs. 13-13 SBs
Kelson Brown, Linfield - .445 avg, 21 2B, 7 HR, 50 RBI, 31 BB/9K, 19-23
Kyle Eller, Huntingdon - .420 avg, 17 2B, 12 HR, 68 RBI, 14-15 SBs
Josh Fyffe, Penn St. Behrend - .523 avg, .867 SLG, 7 HR, 50 RBI, 19 BB/4K, 10-11 SB
Evan Jones, Trinity (Texas) - .507 avg, .926 SLG, 14 HR, 67 RBI, 41BB/13K,
Dave Kahn, Johns Hopkins - .480 avg, 1.000 SLG, 14 HR, 58 RBI, 22BB/8K, 13-13 SB
Brian Youchak, Johns Hopkins - .500 avg, .877 SLG, 14 HR, 10-14 SB
JSG
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 28, 2010, 03:15:34 PM
Who are the leading candidates for the Player of the Year in 2010?
Kevin Brashears, Shenandoah
Kelson Brown, Linfield
Kyle Eller, Huntingdon
Josh Fyffe, Penn St. Behrend
Evan Jones, Trinity (Texas)
Dave Kahn, Johns Hopkins
Brian Youchak, Johns Hopkins
who else?
Wooster's double play tandem Matthew Johnson & Greg Van Horn probably deserve a mention as both are hitting over .450 with SLG %'s in the .800s, 6+ HRs and 14+ stolen bases
JSG
I was thinking about my next poll and as I quickly looked over the NCAA Stats, the players I listed jumped out as appearing in several statistical categories.
The last few years, the Player of the year question lacked the drama that this year offers.
Big Poppa mentioned Stefan Neece from Greenville, but Neece's numbers are actually better than that:
Neece - .505BA , 16 HR, 60 RBI, 1.126SLG, 9 SB, 38 BB, and 6 SO. These numbers are only through 32 games thus far. The other guys that you named with 14 HR and high RBI totals have played at least 37 already.
sam eagleson for JHU
Mike Marion for Virginia Wesleyan
.452 BA 18HR 65RBI
Riley Tincher is 10-0 for UW-Whitewater. Other numbers aren't gawdy, but 10-0 has to be worth something.
The Midwest has a lot of ball to play, so the numbers are a bit down relatively. Besides Tincher these are probably our best candidates so far.
• Jeff Donovan (UW-Whitewater) 33 Games: .400 AVG, 9 HR, 53 RBI, 42 R, .736 SLG, .516 OBP
• Cody Hallahan (Bethany Lutheran): 6-1, 1.86 ERA, 58 IP, 79 K, .179 opp. AVG
Ricardo Lizcano, Heidelberg, from the MidEast. Here are his stats as of this morning:
Player AVG GP-GS AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB SLG%
Ricardo Lizcano.. .462 36-36 143 54 66 17 3 10 56 119 .832
There is a terrific group of young men being mentioned; yet no one stands heads above another. When you look at stats you don't see the intangible factors that have helped and hurt them during the year (weather, field size, competition, etc.)
The real measure for me is can any of these terrific players; put their team on "their back" and take them to the CWS. In my mind that will identify the "Player/Pitcher of the Year."
Agreed...All of these players have great stats, but i believe the deciding factor should be if any of these players can lead their team to the world series
Any East guys being considered?
Quote from: HeyScots on April 29, 2010, 11:47:52 AM
Agreed...All of these players have great stats, but i believe the deciding factor should be if any of these players can lead their team to the world series
If that's true, than why are we talking about best players. Just wait for the world series and pick out the MVP of the World Series and make him the best player/pitcher of D3. If stats don't matter, I can think of at least two players that have scored the last run or had the winning hit or started the winning rally that could be considered.
And these are good steady players, just not having a super year. I think that we should wait until after the season is over, all of the tournaments played and all of the accolades given out. Than we can better decide an appropriate candidate. Until than, we're just campaigning for our favorite player from our team, from our conference, from our region, or from our section of the country.
Quote from: Gramps on April 29, 2010, 08:23:14 PM
Quote from: HeyScots on April 29, 2010, 11:47:52 AM
Agreed...All of these players have great stats, but i believe the deciding factor should be if any of these players can lead their team to the world series
If that's true, than why are we talking about best players. Just wait for the world series and pick out the MVP of the World Series and make him the best player/pitcher of D3. If stats don't matter, I can think of at least two players that have scored the last run or had the winning hit or started the winning rally that could be considered.
And these are good steady players, just not having a super year. I think that we should wait until after the season is over, all of the tournaments played and all of the accolades given out. Than we can better decide an appropriate candidate. Until than, we're just campaigning for our favorite player from our team, from our conference, from our region, or from our section of the country.
If you believe Billy Bean (Moneyball reference here) there is no such thing as a clutch player.
However, with the wide degree of competition and considerations (like field size, weather etc.) it is nice to see what all these great players can do against great competition.
So where's the discussion here? Hopkins' boys are going to be hard to deny!
Quote from: mr.bigglesworth on May 16, 2010, 09:26:11 PM
So where's the discussion here? Hopkins' boys are going to be hard to deny!
hopkins who? o yea the #1 seed...ok so these hopkins boys are pretty impressive lets talk about their stats...hr colmn and slg....wow is all i have to say
Eric Fritz- UW- Stevens Point, More than likely going to win WIAC player of the year. Solid SS and great hitter with speed.
Quote from: kirbypuckett on May 16, 2010, 10:46:58 PM
Eric Fritz- UW- Stevens Point, More than likely going to win WIAC player of the year. Solid SS and great hitter with speed.
Stats just don't stack up....
Quote from: bulldozer on May 17, 2010, 02:54:38 AM
Quote from: kirbypuckett on May 16, 2010, 10:46:58 PM
Eric Fritz- UW- Stevens Point, More than likely going to win WIAC player of the year. Solid SS and great hitter with speed.
Stats just don't stack up....
Just to clarify, there's also quite a bit of debate on the WIAC board if he's going to be WIAC player of year or not...there's just as many, if not more, who think Jeff Donovan of UWW will be player of the year.
What role should Strength of Schedule play in selecting POTY? For instance consider they folloring two players:
Dave Kahn (Hopkins) .476 BA (69 for 145) 69R 66RBI 16HR .972 slg% .537 OBP 14-14 SB
Stefan Neece (Greenville) .495 BA (50 for 101) 43R 61RBI 16HR 1.089 slg% .651 OBP 9-11 SB
Neece's numbers are rather impressive (as are Kahn's) with about a .200 higher OPS, however he plays for Greenville (24-11) who is out of the playoffs with a .456 SOS (nearly the lowest in DIII). While Kahn is playoff bound for top slotted Hopkins with a .536 SOS (somewhere near 100 of 350 in DIII). Is it a stretch to correlate SOS to the quality of the pitching faced?
Thoughts?
You look at the entire package. SOS is so deceiving; my take would be to look at contribution to the success of the team. In the example that you gave, Kahn's efforts have helped yield higher results, hence a greater contribution to his team.
You can look at Evan Jones from Trinity; vitually the same numbers as Kahn, again his team is moving on. I would look at contribution to the success of the team more than SOS. SOS has been discussed all over this board and most would conceed that geography can be a major factor in a teams SOS.
I wouldn't like to strech pitching to cover SOS; it has been my observation that good teams see the best pitching in their region. You will see some variances in performance from game to game, you are looking at a seasons worth of success. In my book, unless one is playing in just an awful conference, good players see the full gamit of pitchers.
Quote from: ILVBB on May 17, 2010, 08:24:04 PM
You look at the entire package. SOS is so deceiving; my take would be to look at contribution to the success of the team. In the example that you gave, Kahn's efforts have helped yield higher results, hence a greater contribution to his team.
You can look at Evan Jones from Trinity; vitually the same numbers as Kahn, again his team is moving on. I would look at contribution to the success of the team more than SOS. SOS has been discussed all over this board and most would conceed that geography can be a major factor in a teams SOS.
I wouldn't like to strech pitching to cover SOS; it has been my observation that good teams see the best pitching in their region. You will see some variances in performance from game to game, you are looking at a seasons worth of success. In my book, unless one is playing in just an awful conference, good players see the full gamit of pitchers.
PLEASE lets not use SOS for anymore than what is already used for. I also feel SOS is distorted by Region and Conference a team may be in..While conceptual a good idea SOS just not make it apples to apple comparison nationwide.
Quote from: fouriscosmic on May 17, 2010, 07:31:27 PM
What role should Strength of Schedule play in selecting POTY? For instance consider they folloring two players:
Dave Kahn (Hopkins) .476 BA (69 for 145) 69R 66RBI 16HR .972 slg% .537 OBP 14-14 SB
Stefan Neece (Greenville) .495 BA (50 for 101) 43R 61RBI 16HR 1.089 slg% .651 OBP 9-11 SB
Neece's numbers are rather impressive (as are Kahn's) with about a .200 higher OPS, however he plays for Greenville (24-11) who is out of the playoffs with a .456 SOS (nearly the lowest in DIII). While Kahn is playoff bound for top slotted Hopkins with a .536 SOS (somewhere near 100 of 350 in DIII). Is it a stretch to correlate SOS to the quality of the pitching faced?
Thoughts?
Please no, LOL. I'm trying to eliminate SOS from the vocabulary. Mississippi College (36-9) has played one of the better schedules you'll find with eleven games against 30-game winners among their 45 total, but the #221 SOS rank wouldn't indicate that.
MC senior starting pitcher Tyler Seaman should be a candidate for postseason awards. He's been solid all year with a 10-0 record, and ERA of 3.18. Also 78 K's, 23 BB's, 90 hits in 87 2/3 innings. MC senior outfielder Bo Bell has had another great year with .438 average, 56 runs, 70 hits, 19 doubles, 10 homers and 56 RBI.
Quote from: BoBo on May 17, 2010, 10:33:22 AM
Quote from: bulldozer on May 17, 2010, 02:54:38 AM
Quote from: kirbypuckett on May 16, 2010, 10:46:58 PM
Eric Fritz- UW- Stevens Point, More than likely going to win WIAC player of the year. Solid SS and great hitter with speed.
Stats just don't stack up....
Just to clarify, there's also quite a bit of debate on the WIAC board if he's going to be WIAC player of year or not...there's just as many, if not more, who think Jeff Donovan of UWW will be player of the year.
Fritz was indeed the choice for WIAC Position Player of the Year..... Looks like Fritz's individual numbers outweighed Donovan's team accomplishments.
How about Alex Eliopoulos from Hopkins for Pitcher of the Year? I saw him throw in Trenton the other day and man was he impressive, and the stats back that up.
Eliopolus could be the best pitcher in the nation, but Eagleson from Hopkins has better stats for various reasons, and is an amazing 11-0!! Anyway you slice it, they both have been excellent.
I think either one (or both) could be all-americans.
Both of their stats are great.
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 20, 2010, 11:51:10 PM
Eliopolus could be the best pitcher in the nation, but Eagleson from Hopkins has better stats for various reasons, and is an amazing 11-0!! Anyway you slice it, they both have been excellent.
I think either one (or both) could be all-americans.
Both of their stats are great.
Eliopoulos had a bit of a slow start in his first game of the season (vs. Concordia IL in Arizona), but he has been lights out ever since. Against Moravian, he pitched five innings, had 9 ground ball outs and 4 strikeouts (plus, I think, a pickoff and a "caught stealing").
Eagleson didn't even pitch last year, and his stats speak for themselves.
Both of these guys are sophomores, and will be tearing up D3 for two more years.
Wow.
Player of the Year battle between Youchak and Kahn, Pitcher of the Year battle between Eliopoulus and Eagleson, what else could Coach Babb ask for? (Other than a strike call in 2008)
With the talent on this years Hopkins team Babb may be in for the best season of his career, picking up win #898 today against Rowan would put the Jays in a great position to secure a spot in Appleton.
Don't forget Greggy Harbeck for Pitcher of the Year!
does anyone know when the d3 all-american teams will come out?
Eliopoulos has fantastic numbers. His ERA may be a little higher than other pitchers, but I find that to be misleading. ERA is based on scoring decisions and what may be one man's error is another man's hit. Additionally, we've all seen plays by defenders that save runs a dive in the gap, a great backhand deep in the hole at SS, so a pitcher's ERA may be deflated by a good defense. ERA is a simple tool to get a rough idea on how a pitcher is doing, but it can certainly be misleading. Pitchers realisticly control three things; strikeouts, walks (and hbp obvi), and homeruns allowed. Eliopoulos is striking out more than a batter per inning, walking less than 3 batters per nine innings and has allowed no home runs in 74.1 innings. That is darn impressive. His 83:22 K:BB ratio is nothing less than elite, and there is no doubt in my mind he should be a frontrunner for pitcher of the year.
He actually allowed a homer in his last outing bonesaw, but your point stands.
Anyone want to put their all-american teams?
Thank you for pointing out my mistake bulldozer, how careless of me. But as you say, 1 homerun allowed in 74.1 innings is still quite impressive.
Quote from: Bonesaw on May 24, 2010, 05:59:56 PM
Thank you for pointing out my mistake bulldozer, how careless of me. But as you say, 1 homerun allowed in 74.1 innings is still quite impressive.
I completely agree with everything said about the Hopkins potential national pitchers and hitters of the year.
Like i said, all three hopkins starters could be all-americans. How do you pick between them. The one which draws the Heidelberg game may get some ERA inflation.....maybe
Aren't the awards announced before the WS? So the stats as they stand now are what would be used?
Eagleson and Youchak were the picks for the Mid Atlantic Player/Pitcher of the Year, I wonder if the same two will be National Player/Pitcher of the Year.
(Eliopoulos 2nd team, Harbeck 3rd Team. Both Kahn and Sikorski joined Eagleson and Youchak on the first team)
Yea your right, Smithers.
I realized that after i posted. THanks for the correction.
ABCA all-American team is announced at the all-American banquet Thursday night in Appleton.
The D3baseball.com all-American team will be released on Tuesday night.
Closer to Wednesday morning. Tuesday night by the NCAA Selection clock.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 25, 2010, 07:31:34 PM
Closer to Wednesday morning. Tuesday night by the NCAA Selection clock.
;D
When do the all-region teams come out? I've seen some references to certain regions but none for the Central.
Kahn, Schuld top All-American list....more at http://www.d3baseball.com/
ABCA Regional All-Americans are showing up now with the ABCA list released at the Banquet
Big Poppa's All-American choices: (I expect to take some heat for some choices, but that is just part of the game).
Player of the Year:
1st – Brian Youchak- 2B (Johns Hopkins)
2nd – Chris Frantini OF (SUNYIT)
3rd – Regan Dixon- C (Hardin-Simmons)
4th – Evan Jones 1B (Trinity-TX)
5th – Tony Jandron UTL (St. Norbert)
Pitcher of the Year:
1st – Brian Rauh (Chapman)
2nd – Riley Tischner (Whitewater)
3rd – Matt Schuld (St. Thomas)
4th – Alec Lewis (Coe)
5th – Jeff Adams (St. Scholastica)
1B
1. Evan Jones (Trinity TX)
2. Stefan Neece (Greenville)
3. Joey Aiello (Carthage)
2B
1. Brian Youchak (Johns Hopkins)
2. Matt Johnson (Wooster)
3. Matt Greene (Frostburg State)
SS
1. Greg Van Horn (Wooster)
2. Nick Robinson (North Central)
3. Kelson Brown (Linfield)
3B
1. Matt Brown (Hampton-Sydney)
2. Willie Brechun (Heidelberg)
3. Nick Beaman (Ripon)
C
1. Regan Dixon (Hardin-Simmons)
1. John Swarr (Johns Hopkins)
2. Michael Corrigan (North Central)
DH
1. Mike Marion (Virginia Wesleyan)
2. Donald Reese (Keystone)
3. Stuart Magee (Mississippi College)
OF
1. Chris Frantini OF (SUNYIT)
1. Ricardo Lizcano (Heidelberg)
1. Alex Cowart (Adrian)
2. Dave Kahn (Johns Hopkins)
2. Al Matthews (Williams)
2. Cody Young (Anderson)
3. Tim Sweeny (Curry)
3. Will Wright (Mary Washington)
3. Jason Simone (Cortland State)
UTIL
1. Tony Jandron (St. Norbert)
2. Brad Kubis (Bethany Lutheran)
3. James Kang (Pomona-Pitzer)
P
1. Brian Rauh (Chapman)
1. Riley Tischner (Whitewater)
1. Matt Schuld (St. Thomas)
1. Alec Lewis (Coe)
2. Jeff Adams (St. Scholastica)
2. Derek Johnson (Redlands)
2. Paul Uhl (Thomas More)
2. James Murrey (Macalester)
3. Sam Eagelson (Johns Hopkins)
3. Brad Orosey (TLU)
3. Andy Lowe (Heidelberg)
3. Chris DeGoti (Tufts)
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 26, 2010, 10:19:52 AM
Big Poppa's All-American choices: (I expect to take some heat for some choices, but that is just part of the game).
Player of the Year:
1st – Brian Youchak- 2B (Johns Hopkins)
2nd – Chris Frantini OF (SUNYIT)
3rd – Regan Dixon- C (Hardin-Simmons)
4th – Evan Jones 1B (Trinity-TX)
5th – Tony Jandron UTL (St. Norbert)
Pitcher of the Year:
1st – Brian Rauh (Chapman)
2nd – Riley Tischner (Whitewater)
3rd – Matt Schuld (St. Thomas)
4th – Alec Lewis (Coe)
5th – Jeff Adams (St. Scholastica)
1B
1. Evan Jones (Trinity TX)
2. Stefan Neece (Greenville)
3. Joey Aiello (Carthage)
2B
1. Brian Youchak (Johns Hopkins)
2. Matt Johnson (Wooster)
3. Matt Greene (Frostburg State)
SS
1. Greg Van Horn (Wooster)
2. Nick Robinson (North Central)
3. Kelson Brown (Linfield)
3B
1. Matt Brown (Hampton-Sydney)
2. Willie Brechun (Heidelberg)
3. Nick Beaman (Ripon)
C
1. Regan Dixon (Hardin-Simmons)
1. John Swarr (Johns Hopkins)
2. Michael Corrigan (North Central)
DH
1. Mike Marion (Virginia Wesleyan)
2. Donald Reese (Keystone)
3. Stuart Magee (Mississippi College)
OF
1. Chris Frantini OF (SUNYIT)
1. Ricardo Lizcano (Heidelberg)
1. Alex Cowart (Adrian)
2. Dave Kahn (Johns Hopkins)
2. Al Matthews (Williams)
2. Cody Young (Anderson)
3. Tim Sweeny (Curry)
3. Will Wright (Mary Washington)
3. Jason Simone (Cortland State)
UTIL
1. Tony Jandron (St. Norbert)
2. Brad Kubis (Bethany Lutheran)
3. James Kang (Pomona-Pitzer)
P
1. Brian Rauh (Chapman)
1. Riley Tischner (Whitewater)
1. Matt Schuld (St. Thomas)
1. Alec Lewis (Coe)
2. Jeff Adams (St. Scholastica)
2. Derek Johnson (Redlands)
2. Paul Uhl (Thomas More)
2. James Murrey (Macalester)
3. Sam Eagelson (Johns Hopkins)
3. Brad Orosey (TLU)
3. Andy Lowe (Heidelberg)
3. Chris DeGoti (Tufts)
Hate to burst your bubble Big Poppa but at ss you have a player from a Div2 school. North Central is a Div2 school.
I'd like to substitute a Div3 Player and here is his name and stats:
Player AVG GP-GS AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB SLG% BB HBP SO GDP OB% SF SH SB-ATT PO A E FLD%
4 Jason Lash....... .421 46-46 183 49 77 25 3 6 54 126 .689 24 9 8 2 .502 3 0 3-3 63 166 12 .950
He is currently the ss on the Heidelberg team and his stats are comparable with your other choices.
North Central (Naperville, IL) is a CCIW member (and regular season champion) and played in the D3 Central Regional. No need to substitue a player. He is a legitimate D3 guy.
Poppa, no love for shenendoah guys? At least a cac player, OF Will Wright UMW, made your list. That was nice to see after the shutout by d3baseball
Sorry Big Poppa, but when I googled North Central, I got the Minneapolis, Minn. web site and they have a player named J. Robinson and he has good stats, but not as high as either of our choices . But as long as I have submitted Jason Lash's name, I think that his stats are legitimate enough to be considered as an All- American candidate.
Quote from: Gramps on May 26, 2010, 11:36:13 AM
Sorry Big Poppa, but when I googled North Central, I got the Minneapolis, Minn. web site and they have a player named J. Robinson and he has good stats, but not as high as either of our choices . But as long as I have submitted Jason Lash's name, I think that his stats are ligitimate enough to be considered as an All- American candidate.
North Central University (Minn.) is a provisional NCAA D-III school and not an NCAA D-II school.
You were probably looking at their N
CCAA affilliation.
Quote from: Just Bill on May 26, 2010, 11:38:43 AM
Quote from: Gramps on May 26, 2010, 11:36:13 AM
Sorry Big Poppa, but when I googled North Central, I got the Minneapolis, Minn. web site and they have a player named J. Robinson and he has good stats, but not as high as either of our choices . But as long as I have submitted Jason Lash's name, I think that his stats are ligitimate enough to be considered as an All- American candidate.
North Central University (Minn.) is a provisional NCAA D-III school and not an NCAA D-II school.
You were probably looking at their NCCAA affilliation.
Just Billl, you are 100% correct. I'll have to write this off as a "SENIOR MOMENT" as we Gramps have from time to time.
Quote from: baseballer on May 26, 2010, 11:27:36 AM
Poppa, no love for shenendoah guys? At least a cac player, OF Will Wright UMW, made your list. That was nice to see after the shutout by d3baseball
It was not a shutout by D3baseball, he just did not get ENOUGH votes to make the AA team.
a player numbers show if their deserving or not these players deserve it
College baseball writers name Rauh Pitcher of the Year
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2009-10/news/0614