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#16
Wheaton takes it 40-15 at Elmhurst.  A really, really hot day.
#17
Quote from: emma17 on September 20, 2017, 02:13:19 PM

You raise a valid point that is at the basis of my question and that is: The players were punished to some degree last year, and now, 18 months later, are receiving additional punishment. I have no horse in this race and like all others, want justice. Why? What has changed over time?
I admit to being skeptical that it took investigators this much time to find enough evidence to merit charges.
It seems that accusations so serious should have resulted in the police looking for ways to keep these 5 men off the street/away from other students- immediately.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that almost every institution has 2 levels of response to an allegation.

Level 1 - incident is reported and some sort of 'looking into it' is done.  Both by the school and (like in this case) the authorities.  It seems that, until recently, the authorities weren't done with their part yet (no charges) and the school, through some third party, came to the conclusion that 'X' offense did take place and that steps needed to be taken for corrective action and were.

Level 2 - official charges are now delivered.  It doesn't matter if the school thinks they were 100% right or perhaps new information came to light or whatever...further actions are expected, being that the authorities feel they have a case to make that something 'more severe' took place.  I can only hope that if Wheaton came to the conclusion that what was described by the transferred student in the official charges are NOT what took place, because if what is being reported as their response to THOSE allegations were community service, a paper and a short suspension, I'm going to have to have a long thought about my alma mater.  For now I have to hope that they were wise enough to think the 'version 2' as listed above is what occurred.  Still stupid, but certainly not a felony.

Now, of course, we head to phase 3 (eventually).  The trial and all the fun that comes with that.  But at least we'll learn some facts.

The problem with pranks and/or hazing is that one person's prank is another person's hazing.  Pranks were common back when I was in school and I assume they are now too.  But there's a reason that most people look back at what they did and thought when younger and ponder how stupid they were (goodness knows I do).

Just so everyone's clear, I'm not saying that 'football players' do stupid things.  I'm saying 'college aged kids' do stupid things.  Of course, older folks do too, but we tend to be more dramatic about it, with far longer reaching consequences.

And to think, my yearly post here was going to be about the wife and I heading up for homecoming to see her school IWU get destroyed by Wheaton.  Sadly a more serious topic intrudes.


#18
I was at the Wheaton/IWU game until about 10 minutes left in the 4th and it was becoming a bloodbath.  Still Wheaton up 38-24 at the time.  2 of the IWU scores were very long plays, one bomb of a pass.  For most of the first half neither team was stopping the other.

Being that the wife is an IWU grad and I'm a Wheaton one, we started on their side the first half (for sun reasons) and switched to Wheaton's the second half.  So I'm taking credit...;-)
#19
Quote from: gryfalia on November 01, 2015, 12:23:26 AM
And now for my once every other year post.

As a Wheaton grad (married to an IWU grad, who lives in Bloomington/Normal) I guess I get to see the game in person next weekend.

Lookin' forward to that!  Hope it gets over on time, I have a Euchre tourney/Chili Cookoff to attend later that day!

And here's the worst part.  I just found out the event I have 'later that day' actually starts at 1PM.  Holy crap I'm crushed..;-/

I wonder if anyone will notice that I keep disappearing for 15 minutes at a time to look at the game, then head back...
#20
And now for my once every other year post.

As a Wheaton grad (married to an IWU grad, who lives in Bloomington/Normal) I guess I get to see the game in person next weekend.

Lookin' forward to that!  Hope it gets over on time, I have a Euchre tourney/Chili Cookoff to attend later that day!
#21
Quote from: Titan Q on December 03, 2009, 09:05:41 PM
Andy Studebaker article from the Bloomington Pantagraph...

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/football/professional/nfl/article_e9d4105a-e061-11de-9f2e-001cc4c03286.html

This being in the local paper was a surprise to me, but I guess it shouldn't be, since Eureka is so close to town.

Was a good article tho, and gave me a chance to throw out a good ole Wheaton 'Wooooha'...
#22
The worst part is...I LIVE in Bloomington, I'm all of 3/4 of a mile from the stadium, but I'm stuck at my game store all day, watching here and listening to WETN!
#23
I call North Central 'the school where I used to sled' often, since my Great Aunt lived one block away and they used to put up a very cool sledding ramp on the south hill.  Was tons of fun..;-)
#24
And for my 'once a year or so' post here...

I work for a 'rather large insurance company based in Bloomington, IL', which has some rather..strong..connections to IWU.  Which made it weird when I, who went to Wheaton, got a letter through interoffice mail asking me about supporting..IWU.

Of course, my only connection to IWU is my wife, who went there (and also works here).  Skipping the fact that it was sent through interoffice mail, I was shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you that they thought I would support IWU.

Sadly we've moved away from our tradition of visiting the Wheaton/IWU game when it's in town and switching sides during halftime..;-)
#25
The worst part of this is being in town (I live in Bloomington) and not being able to be at the game...
#26
Quote from: Redmen96 on November 02, 2007, 07:39:15 AM
Hey don't sweat the Patriots jerseys, those kids just want to represent "the best of the best of the best sir."  (movie?) 

Men in Black, of course..;-)
#27
It's been forever since I posted, but as a Crusader (at the time) in '88-'92, while not involved in Football playing, I did watch, and I did take a class from Swider..;-)

As someone married to a Titan (my wife graduated from IWU), I'm looking forward to a game that might actually matter down here in Bloomington on the 10th.  We'll probably follow on our tradition of sitting on one side of the field one half and switching for the second half.

Go Cru..er...Thunder!
#28
Quote from: 79jaybird on October 01, 2006, 01:39:10 PM
April re: Wheaton stats and Coach Swider,  it couldn't happen to a nicer person either!  Coach Swider is a class act and a joy to be around. Wheaton and the CCIW is lucky to have such a great role model.

I have a great deal of respect for Coach Swider, especially after he let me off with only some in-jest ribbing when I fell asleep in his class (during a movie) and he woke me up after everyone else had left the room..;-)
#29
Quote from: iwu70 on February 16, 2006, 03:28:27 AM
Vet, sorry, I'm happy with my Hong Kong perch.  No good Chinese food in Bloomington. 

Well, while there is the normal 'good' American-fake-Chinese China Star to eat at, we have had a surprising run of Thai places open up.  Three now, with Thai House being my favorite thus far.  And, for those that know the place, we have a real, live Harold's Chicken Shack open up for business..;-)

Gryfalia 'bringing the tangent at you, warp speed'
#30
Woah, I didn't know that JR was leaving.  Not only did I go to Wheaton College, but I also attended Lawrence Central HS in Indianapolis (where JR coached a couple years before my time..but while my sister was in school there..she also attended Wheaton).

If memory serves, the field there was 'Bishop Field'.  It was, actually, one heck of a high school..

Gryfalia