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South Region football / Re: FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« Last post by hasanova on Today at 08:51:20 pm »
Final in Greensboro  Guilford 45, Shenandoah 20

BC, E&H, HSC, RMC and W&L, you're welcome.

Nice win for your boys Hasa. Shenandoah got ODAC'd. It's happened to almost all of us. W&L and Shenandoah both still control their destiny, however, HSC and RMC now both need help.

W&L still has the least favorable schedule, going to both RMC and Shenandoah. H-SC hosts Shenandoah but goes to RMC. Shenandoah goes to H-SC but hosts W&L. And RMC has the best schedule, hosting both W&L and H-SC.

Shenandoah is also a game ahead in conference and has Apprentice to go. W&L hosts Bridgewater. RMC has to go to a newly dangerous Guilford. And H-SC travels to E&H. Advantage Shenandoah from those pickings.

Lot of football to go in the ODAC, where things rarely go to anyone's script.
interesting that W&L and SU meet in the last game.
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South Region football / Re: FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« Last post by hasanova on Today at 08:46:51 pm »
Final in Greensboro  Guilford 45, Shenandoah 20

BC, E&H, HSC, RMC and W&L, you're welcome.

Nice win for your boys Hasa. Shenandoah got ODAC'd. It's happened to almost all of us. W&L and Shenandoah both still control their destiny, however, HSC and RMC now both need help.

W&L still has the least favorable schedule, going to both RMC and Shenandoah. H-SC hosts Shenandoah but goes to RMC. Shenandoah goes to H-SC but hosts W&L. And RMC has the best schedule, hosting both W&L and H-SC.

Shenandoah is also a game ahead in conference and has Apprentice to go. W&L hosts Bridgewater. RMC has to go to a newly dangerous Guilford. And H-SC travels to E&H. Advantage Shenandoah from those pickings.

Lot of football to go in the ODAC, where things rarely go to anyone's script.

I had the ODACity to run the numbers today.  We were an E&H win over Shenandoah from having a possible 7-way tie for the ODAC crown.

It's gotta be fun this season!
Love the ODACity.  Thanks for the research.  +1
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Box score says Trinity's last score against Bowdoin was a 3 yard rush with about 2 minutes remaining. Blood thirsty?
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Men's soccer / Re: 2017 Season - National Perspective
« Last post by rudy on Today at 08:42:33 pm »
I think Messiah really missed Plaza tonight. Not sure if he will miss more games but he controls the center of the field. Hopefully he will be back soon.

For certain. When was he injured? How?

Don't know. Just noticed he didn't play tonight. He has had nagging injury I think last year and this year. Maybe just needs a rest hopefully.
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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« Last post by dlip on Today at 08:41:46 pm »
Congrats to RPI and Ithaca on the big non conference wins today over two E8 schools! Also, congrats to SLU for taking care of business against Roch cha cha! Dlip is happy for them!
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Men's soccer / Re: 2017 Season - National Perspective
« Last post by Falconer on Today at 08:37:13 pm »
I think Messiah really missed Plaza tonight. Not sure if he will miss more games but he controls the center of the field. Hopefully he will be back soon.

For certain. When was he injured? How?
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Men's soccer / Re: Mid-Atlantic Region
« Last post by Falconer on Today at 08:35:14 pm »
Messiah gets a golden goal in 2 OT to beat LVC, 2-1. All things considered, it's good to have two very tough conference opponents (Lycoming of course is the other) in the wake of Etown leaving the conference a few years ago. LVC had multiple chances to win this one, just as Messiah had multiple chances for more goals only to be skunked by Cam Avery, LVC's excellent keeper. Conner Bell for the Falcons also saved their bacon more than once. A back and forth game, though Messiah did have the bulk of possession.

Kirby Robbins got both goals, and both were highly skilled shots with his left foot. He has emerged as the missing Falcon finisher at just the right point in the season. He gets the game ball, with honorable mention to keeper Bell and both outside backs, Quintin and Bender. The defense definitely looked shakier tonight than in some other recent games, but that's partly owing to the greatly improved attack that LVC now has. They can be relied upon to score goals against excellent teams. This year they had 2 vs Gettysburg, 1 vs Messiah, and almost 1 (a missed PK) vs Lycoming. Can't figure out how they lost to a not very good Muhlenberg side to open the season. If that one went the other way, their only losses would be to Lycoming and Messiah. Rowan can say the same thing, but I don't really think they are nearly as good as Rowan. Will be interesting to see how they do in the conference tourney, now less than two weeks away.

A huge crowd for homecoming in Grantham, upwards of 3000 for sure. Earlier today I saw attendance figures for 2015 NCAA soccer in all 3 divisions. Messiah obviously led D3 by almost a 2-1 margin, but they also would have led D2 in attendance. In D1 they would have finished 15th in average attendance, right behind UVA. 
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See my post on page 865 from 10/16.  Whether sticks or no sticks it's all good.  Good win for the Jumbos today at Williams.  Sets up the game next week nicely with Amh.  Should be an interesting rest of the season.
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Sets up the game next week between Hamilton and Williams.
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South Region football / Re: FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« Last post by HSCTiger fan on Today at 08:25:06 pm »
I never said it mattered.  I said the decision was confirmed and therefore a good one.   

WL had a much better game plan. WL was dropping 8 into coverage and HSC hardly attempted to run at them. When HSC ran it was almost always on first down and with one back in backfield. 6 sacks given up by OL, at least 4 were coverage sacks. 5 trips into the red zone and only 6 points?  That was terrible or great depending on which side you're for. I think WL is going to have a very tough game against RMC.  They run the ball. I have no idea as to why HSC abandoned the short passing game. It was CNU all over again.
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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« Last post by dlip on Today at 08:23:02 pm »
Congrats to the Dutchmen and all their fans. You must be ecstatic for the return to glory.Went to the game and sat with the football parents. Much disappointment and confusion over why they never get off to a good start. No disrespect against Union but this has been true against all opponents. They have the talent on offense but the play calling has been a puzzlement. Quite a few dropped passes today , some caused by the defense but some they needed to fight for, Union did.Frankly, we miss DeWall as OC and have gotten by on talent not strategy the last few years. Typically Hobart gets going in the second half and pulls ahead but against Union this never happened. Frankly that last pass to Beal and his one handed catch that set up the last Union TD, was amazing and won the game for the Dutchmen. This is the same team Hobart team that beat RPI 30-0 , who some may favor to win the LL after beating Alfred today. Again, no disrespect to Union but this was not a full game effort offensively by Hobart. Yes Union deserves the win without question, I do not want to take anything away,but there is a feeling of disappointment in Geneva. Only one team gave it their best effort today, including coaches and that was Union. Good luck against Ithaca and RPI, and may your dream continue because ours was lost today.

Again, dlip understands the frustration and respects the opinion that Hobart's effort was sub par, he just disagrees with it. Many on here would agree that dlip, aside from the cursing, is pretty level headed and objective. Today he watched a Hobart team get very frustrated on offense for three quarters.

 Like UfanBill pointed out the Statesmen threw a lot at the Union D. Yes, there were some dropped passes today for sure. With that being said when do you see dropped passes? Often when an offense is hurried, uncomfortable, and dealing with a very physical defense. That's what the Union D has done to it's opponents so far this season and what dlip feels they did to Hobart today.

Dlip paid close attention to the Hobart sideline today. Those young men played their asses off. Dlip has a TON of respect for them. However, in most offensive discussions today the O was very frustrated. Shed had two offensive PI calls against him. As incredible as he is he did not have a lot of space to work today and it took him out of his comfort zone.

As far as the end of the game goes Bart certainly had some success when they were forced to pass on almost all downs and the Union D was forced to defend just the pass, which is the most difficult thing to defend, especially against an offense like Hobart. Dlip gives the Bart players and staff TONS of credit for making this game interesting. However for three quarters with both teams putting it all out there Union was the better team and as a result they won.

Dlip has watched his Dutchmen get their asses kicked for years now and he DID say and still says it was not a result of effort, but a result of coaching and lack of player execution. They lost because they were not the better team. Dlip respects everyone on here and still will not beat his chest. Union has a long way to go this season and in the future to restore itself to being a very good program. However today they were a better team than Hobart not because of effort, not because outcoaching, but because as a whole, taking a little bit of everything into account, they won the day.

Dlip will always respect Hobart, their fans, and Coach Cragg and his staff. He wishes them all the success in the world (except against Union of course) moving forward. Those kids played their asses off, just like Union did.

Going to be an interesting last three weeks in the league. The Dutchmen, The Bombers, and RPI will be in for a battle.
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