2-Way Players

Started by Hammer Ball, March 26, 2009, 10:35:48 AM

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Hammer Ball

After 15 years and hundreds of D1 games, I now have 2 years of D3 baseball under my belt and have noticed the number of 2-Way players in D3 is far greater than I saw in D1.  I would be interested in people providing the stats of D3 2-Way players that have impressed them (lets limit it to players who play a position in the field and not DH/P's).

UniqueNewYork

One of the better two-way guys in DIII is ECSU's Will Musson. Musson was a pitcher at UCONN and played in the Alaska Baseball League last summer. He was  a two-way player for the Mat-Su Miners, seeing time in the infield and pitching in relief.  He is currently sporting a 2-0 record with a 1.12 ERA, while also hitting .308 for the undefeated ECSU.  Will's teammate, Shawn Giblar, is also one of the best two-way players out there. However, since Musson is a new face, I thought I would mention him.

Ralph Turner

Last year, Kurt Yacko for Chapman.

I cannot find the link for the 2008 Chapman stats on the new home page.

BigPoppa

If we want to go way back, Carthage had All-American Gavin Winfield in 1996 and 1997. Great LHP on the hill and ususally hit a ton while in RF on his "off" days.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

szlongball

Why aren't there more 2 way players in D3 baseball? Most pitchers were 2 way players in high school, so why not let them continue in college? I have never understood this. And why are only certain players deemed worthy of being given this opportunity?

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: szlongball on March 26, 2009, 12:49:00 PM
Why aren't there more 2 way players in D3 baseball? Most pitchers were 2 way players in high school, so why not let them continue in college? I have never understood this. And why are only certain players deemed worthy of being given this opportunity?

Just speculating here, but perhaps it is not a matter of 'let them continue' or 'deemed worthy of being given this opportunity'.  I'd imagine most coaches will play the players that give them the best opportunity to win.  Perhaps (generally speaking) the best pitchers are not the best position players, and vice versa.

hokieone

Mike Giarrizzi, Christopher Newport University, starting centerfielder, great range defensively, hitting .397, 25 runs scored, 16 RBI's in 19 games; on the mound, 2-0 record, 11 innings pitched, 21 K's, 4 hits allowed, ERA of 0.00.

oldcat

Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 26, 2009, 11:17:28 AM
Last year, Kurt Yacko for Chapman.

I cannot find the link for the 2008 Chapman stats on the new home page.
http://www1.chapman.edu/athletics/07-08/baseball/teamcume.htm

here you go Ralph. The stats on Yacko are amazing.

hsusid

I agree we are seeing it a lot more in Division III, but DII and DI have a lot of guys going both ways now, especially with the squad size limits that DI is under now.

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Jim Dixon

Here is how the d3baseball.com preseason allamericans are doing this season:

Player                 AVG  GP  AB   R   H  2B  3B  HR RBI   TB  SLG%  BB  SO  OB%   SF  SH  SB-ATT    FLD%
Shawn Gilblair, ECSU. .375  11  40  12  15   8   0   0  12   23  .575   4   5  .447   1   0   0-0     1.000
Bruce Cameron, Ozarks .307  23  75  27  23   5   1   4  13   42  .560  11  12  .411   1   2  10-10     .982

Player                 ERA   W-L   APP  GS  CG  SV    IP   H   R  ER  BB  SO  2B  3B  HR   AB B/Avg   WP HBP
Shawn Gilblair, ECSU.  3.00   2-0    2   2   0   0   9.0   8   3   3   2  15   1   0   1   34  .235    1   0
Bruce Cameron, Ozarks  5.30   2-2    6   6   2   0  37.1  46  23  22  10  25  12   0   3  145  .317    1   6 

mideastfan2

Quote from: BigPoppa on March 26, 2009, 11:23:00 AM
If we want to go way back, Carthage had All-American Gavin Winfield in 1996 and 1997. Great LHP on the hill and ususally hit a ton while in RF on his "off" days.

at the same time, Marietta had Joe Thomas (P and 1B).  Joe was the DIII player of the year in both 1996 & 1997; a hard-throwing lefty on the mound, and a career .410 hitter with tons of power.

Ralph Turner

McMurry 1B Brent Voorhees (All-American 2007) was used as a "2-way" in 2007.  His two starts came against UTDallas and Marietta.

In a 5inning +3 batter no decision versus UTD he had this bad outing.  (McMurry lost 13-12.)

McMurry University     IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF
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Brent Voorhees......  5.0 12 11 10  1  3 27 32

Versus Marietta (a no-decision)
McMurry University     IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF  versus
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Brent Voorhees......  5.0  6  4  4  4  2 21 29



Player                 ERA   W-L   APP  GS  CG SHO/CBO SV    IP   H   R  ER  BB  SO  2B  3B  HR  AB B/Avg  WP HBP  BK  SFA SHA

28 Brent Voorhees...  7.94   0-0     8   2   0   0/0    3  17.0  23  16  15   5  14   3   0   2   74  .311    5   7   0    0   1

In the other 6 relief appearances, he had 7.0 IP 2 runs, 1 earned and 3 saves (including one versus Trinity TX).

As a 1B he hit...

Player                AVG  GP-GS    AB   R   H  2B  3B  HR RBI   TB  SLG%  BB HBP  SO GDP  OB%  SF  SH  SB-ATT  PO  A  E FLD%

28 Brent Voorhees...370  46-46   189  54  70  12   0  14  56  124  .656  32   0  24   0  .455   3   0   0-0    407  23   6  .986

infielddad

Ralph,
Wouldn't Josh Lee be considered a very top 2 way player?
I know he was a very good pitcher and then was drafted as a 1B who had a lot of power as a hitter.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: infielddad on March 26, 2009, 07:30:26 PM
Ralph,
Wouldn't Josh Lee be considered a very top 2 way player?
I know he was a very good pitcher and then was drafted as a 1B who had a lot of power as a hitter.
Yes!  Thanks for reminding me.

Here are his 2004 stats.


Player         AVG  GP-GS    AB   R   H  2B  3B  HR RBI   TB  SLG%  BB HBP  SO GDP   OB%  SF  SH  SB-ATT   PO   A   E  FLD%

28 Josh Lee....372  44-44   145  44  54   7   0  17  53  112  .772  37   3  32   0  .500   3   0   0-0    263  35   3  .990

Player                 ERA   W-L   APP  GS  CG SHO/CBO SV    IP   H   R  ER  BB  SO

28 Josh Lee.........  2.76   8-3    12  12   5   3/1    0  88.0  70  35  27  19  71