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Northeast Region / Re: MBB: NESCAC
« Last post by P'bearfan on Today at 07:47:18 am »
6'2" Worcester Academy senior guard Dylan Lien commits to Bowdoin. He sounds like a very good 3 point shooter with a developing offensive game off the dribble. More info here:

https://newenglandrecruitingreport.com/in-the-news/2018-all-academic-camp-day-1-recap

https://newenglandrecruitingreport.com/in-the-news/2018-e75-best-of-the-guards

Thanks for the update.  Sounds like a great catch for Bowdoin.
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ColbyFootball-
No question about it. Of all the new coaches entering the NESCAC in the last few years the Hamilton situation was the most difficult challenge.

Tougher challenge than JB has in Brunswick?
It's hard to say which situation was the toughest, but Cohen left the program in a very very bad state. My feeling at the time was that he set them back years. It was that bad. And sadly, like another HC that I've had a past issue with, he was probably a decent guy.
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West Region football / Re: FB: Northwest Conference
« Last post by D O.C. on Today at 01:50:34 am »
Good! Finally a LINFIELD guy on the d3football.com Team of the Week.
It may be antiquated news but I believe the SID nominates for their team.

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K Willy Warne
Jr., Linfield

Warne made a career-long 54-yard field goal, the longest made field goal in the NWC this season. He made from 26, 42 and 54 yards (missing from 46) and hit four extra points in a 43-26 win over Lewis & Clark.
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I was at the Bowdoin/Hamilton game.  The Hamilton QB was terrific and they have some good receivers, and the coach has done a great job making them more competitive.  But they were on there way to giving up 50 pts themselves, until Bowdoin's two top receivers went out with injuries midway thru the 3rd quarter.  Bowdoin also played the game without their best player (RB, Richam) and had two TDs called back in the second half (still had 430 yards of offense).  Bowdoin's pass defense was terrible, but 4 interceptions and a blocked punt played a big role in the 35 pt spread.  Let's see how Hamilton does against a team that can play defense and does not have essentially 5 turnovers.  I agree they are headed in the right direction, which is more than I can say about Bowdoin -- obviously.

Welcome to the Board GoBlue, the water is warm. We assume UMich Class of Ď61???

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North Region football / Re: North Region Fan Poll
« Last post by JCUStreaks70 on Today at 01:03:49 am »
It's not correct to say there is a chasm between JCU and the rest of the North based on a 13 pt loss.

It certainly is based on a full reading game and not simply a score margin that you keep quoting like youíre going to win something if you keep doing it.  You havenít answered the question posed earlier- who else on our list can predictably take Mount Union inside one minute with a chance to win?  And based on what?

No need to insult me Wally.  A full reading of the game includes the final minute of play. You don't get a pass for making the exact same mistake in the final minute you made in the first half (Berry sacked him earlier on the same blitz). In fact that's much, much worse. I watched the whole game and never had any worry Mt Union would win. A full reading of the game tells me Mt Union is a lot better than JCU and I think if they played again Mt wins by 3 Td's not just 2. A full reading of the game says JCU turned it over 4 times to Mt Union's zero. A full reading says Anthony Moeglin was 11-24 and gave up two fumbles for TD's, an INT in his own end of the field and couldn't make a play when he had a chance to affect the outcome at least 2, if not 3 times. I had absolutely no fear Mt Union would lose that game even when JCU got the ball with 1:44 left. In fact I would have given odds for a turnover vs a TD.

I honestly think your lack of fear comes from the fact that Mount is Mount, and not based on anything else. I'm sure that had the 2016 game ended differently (if Mount had intercepted JCU's touchdown pass and won the game), many people would have been on here saying that Mount was never in any real danger.
It's also worth pointing out that there were many people who looked at UST's 7 turnover effort in a close loss to UWO in the 2016 quarterfinals as a sign that they were that good. They could turn the ball over that many times and still have a chance to win. But when a team like John Carroll has a -4 turnover margin in a close loss to Mount Union, people take that as a sign John Carroll isn't that good.
Make no mistake, Mount Union is a better team than John Carroll. They found a way to win the game, and that's the bottom line. But at the end of the day, John Carroll had an opportunity to score a go ahead touchdown with less than a minute left. And the fact that they had that opportunity (whether we want to assign arbitrary probabilities to the potential success/failure of that final drive) shows that the game was in question. And I absolutely agree that there is no other team in the region (and probably only a handful in the country) that would have had that opportunity at the end of the game. Not with the body of work every other team has shown so far.

You stole my rant bro..
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North Region football / Re: North Region Fan Poll
« Last post by JCUStreaks70 on Today at 01:02:53 am »
It's not correct to say there is a chasm between JCU and the rest of the North based on a 13 pt loss.

It certainly is based on a full reading game and not simply a score margin that you keep quoting like youíre going to win something if you keep doing it.  You havenít answered the question posed earlier- who else on our list can predictably take Mount Union inside one minute with a chance to win?  And based on what?

No need to insult me Wally.  A full reading of the game includes the final minute of play. You don't get a pass for making the exact same mistake in the final minute you made in the first half (Berry sacked him earlier on the same blitz). In fact that's much, much worse. I watched the whole game and never had any worry Mt Union would win. A full reading of the game tells me Mt Union is a lot better than JCU and I think if they played again Mt wins by 3 Td's not just 2. A full reading of the game says JCU turned it over 4 times to Mt Union's zero. A full reading says Anthony Moeglin was 11-24 and gave up two fumbles for TD's, an INT in his own end of the field and couldn't make a play when he had a chance to affect the outcome at least 2, if not 3 times. I had absolutely no fear Mt Union would lose that game even when JCU got the ball with 1:44 left. In fact I would have given odds for a turnover vs a TD.

The question isn't who else can predictably take Mt Union inside a minute to play because neither you nor anyone else predicted it would happen in that game, and predictions aren't generally very accurate for anyone. What I said was there are 1-2 other teams that can lose to Mt Union by 2 scores. That doesn't require predictions of who, it simply illustrates what I believe, and you seem to need to insult me for it, which is JCU is closer to being the 3rd best team in the region right now than the #1 team.  That's not a novel idea, it's been true of every team in the North for close to 2 decades. I simply disagree with people on here who think a loss to Mt Union makes a team better than everyone else. I am a big believer in Pat's idea of who you beat vs who you lost to.

But to turn your above against you, with all of the above the game was much closer than it could've or maybe even should've been. You mention the mistakes that JCU had (which they did) and Mount was NEVER able to put that game away. Most teams that have a -4 TO ration against Mount go on to lose by over 35, but not this game. Why's that? Maybe that is because JCU has started to close (albeit still a ways to go to match) the gap on Mount? Now, I am not saying JCU is as good as Mount, we're not. We need to beat Mount somewhat consistently before that ever changes. But if JCU can have as bad of a game Offensively as they did against Mount and still have a chance to win with under 2 minutes to play, then JCU is in fact closing that gap.

Now, perfect teams don't make mistakes; great teams keep mistakes to a minimum; and good teams find a way to be competitive even in the face of multiple mistakes.

We still have a ways to go before we truly challenge Mount for conference supremacy; but taking that 8 of the previous 10 games have been decided in the 4th quarter, I am going to side on the fact that JCU is in fact much closer to Mount than essentially every other team in the North..

But then again, I may be biased.
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North Region football / Re: North Region Fan Poll
« Last post by bluestreak66 on Today at 12:59:47 am »
It's not correct to say there is a chasm between JCU and the rest of the North based on a 13 pt loss.

It certainly is based on a full reading game and not simply a score margin that you keep quoting like youíre going to win something if you keep doing it.  You havenít answered the question posed earlier- who else on our list can predictably take Mount Union inside one minute with a chance to win?  And based on what?

No need to insult me Wally.  A full reading of the game includes the final minute of play. You don't get a pass for making the exact same mistake in the final minute you made in the first half (Berry sacked him earlier on the same blitz). In fact that's much, much worse. I watched the whole game and never had any worry Mt Union would win. A full reading of the game tells me Mt Union is a lot better than JCU and I think if they played again Mt wins by 3 Td's not just 2. A full reading of the game says JCU turned it over 4 times to Mt Union's zero. A full reading says Anthony Moeglin was 11-24 and gave up two fumbles for TD's, an INT in his own end of the field and couldn't make a play when he had a chance to affect the outcome at least 2, if not 3 times. I had absolutely no fear Mt Union would lose that game even when JCU got the ball with 1:44 left. In fact I would have given odds for a turnover vs a TD.

I honestly think your lack of fear comes from the fact that Mount is Mount, and not based on anything else. I'm sure that had the 2016 game ended differently (if Mount had intercepted JCU's touchdown pass and won the game), many people would have been on here saying that Mount was never in any real danger.
It's also worth pointing out that there were many people who looked at UST's 7 turnover effort in a close loss to UWO in the 2016 quarterfinals as a sign that they were that good. They could turn the ball over that many times and still have a chance to win. But when a team like John Carroll has a -4 turnover margin in a close loss to Mount Union, people take that as a sign John Carroll isn't that good.
Make no mistake, Mount Union is a better team than John Carroll. They found a way to win the game, and that's the bottom line. But at the end of the day, John Carroll had an opportunity to score a go ahead touchdown with less than a minute left. And the fact that they had that opportunity (whether we want to assign arbitrary probabilities to the potential success/failure of that final drive) shows that the game was in question. And I absolutely agree that there is no other team in the region (and probably only a handful in the country) that would have had that opportunity at the end of the game. Not with the body of work every other team has shown so far.
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I was at the Bowdoin/Hamilton game.  The Hamilton QB was terrific and they have some good receivers, and the coach has done a great job making them more competitive.  But they were on there way to giving up 50 pts themselves, until Bowdoin's two top receivers went out with injuries midway thru the 3rd quarter.  Bowdoin also played the game without their best player (RB, Richam) and had two TDs called back in the second half (still had 430 yards of offense).  Bowdoin's pass defense was terrible, but 4 interceptions and a blocked punt played a big role in the 35 pt spread.  Let's see how Hamilton does against a team that can play defense and does not have essentially 5 turnovers.  I agree they are headed in the right direction, which is more than I can say about Bowdoin -- obviously.
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North Region football / Re: North Region Fan Poll
« Last post by USee on Today at 12:38:49 am »
It's not correct to say there is a chasm between JCU and the rest of the North based on a 13 pt loss.

It certainly is based on a full reading game and not simply a score margin that you keep quoting like youíre going to win something if you keep doing it.  You havenít answered the question posed earlier- who else on our list can predictably take Mount Union inside one minute with a chance to win?  And based on what?

No need to insult me Wally.  A full reading of the game includes the final minute of play. You don't get a pass for making the exact same mistake in the final minute you made in the first half (Berry sacked him earlier on the same blitz). In fact that's much, much worse. I watched the whole game and never had any worry Mt Union would win. A full reading of the game tells me Mt Union is a lot better than JCU and I think if they played again Mt wins by 3 Td's not just 2. A full reading of the game says JCU turned it over 4 times to Mt Union's zero. A full reading says Anthony Moeglin was 11-24 and gave up two fumbles for TD's, an INT in his own end of the field and couldn't make a play when he had a chance to affect the outcome at least 2, if not 3 times. I had absolutely no fear Mt Union would lose that game even when JCU got the ball with 1:44 left. In fact I would have given odds for a turnover vs a TD.

The question isn't who else can predictably take Mt Union inside a minute to play because neither you nor anyone else predicted it would happen in that game, and predictions aren't generally very accurate for anyone. What I said was there are 1-2 other teams that can lose to Mt Union by 2 scores. That doesn't require predictions of who, it simply illustrates what I believe, and you seem to need to insult me for it, which is JCU is closer to being the 3rd best team in the region right now than the #1 team.  That's not a novel idea, it's been true of every team in the North for close to 2 decades. I simply disagree with people on here who think a loss to Mt Union makes a team better than everyone else. I am a big believer in Pat's idea of who you beat vs who you lost to.
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ColbyFootball-
No question about it. Of all the new coaches entering the NESCAC in the last few years the Hamilton situation was the most difficult challenge.

Tougher challenge than JB has in Brunswick?
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