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Re: MBB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
« Reply #2970 on: May 04, 2017, 01:42:20 am »
I suspect an affiliate member in football is in their future.

Yeah, but who? Finlandia is focused upon getting into the UMAC as a full member, and former NACC member Maranatha Baptist just dropped the sport. That leaves absolutely no independents available for the NACC to add as an associate member for football.

I was actually thinking about that myself. And the only thing I could come up with is that they'd have to get one or more of the UMAC's football associates to jump ship (the former IBFC members?) But that bridge can be crossed when we come to it.

However, should the Bennies depart stay, the conference will stand at a nice even 12 members for basketball, barring any additional additions or subtractions. Might we then see a 2 division split, possibly with northern and southern divisions?

If Benedictine is leaving, I don't think it makes sense to go to divisions if they'll have to get rid of them after a year or two. (It would certainly make sense if they stay, with a 6-6 team split along state lines.) But either way, I don't think the NACC would go to a 22 game conference schedule.
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Re: MBB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
« Reply #2971 on: May 04, 2017, 04:37:03 am »
As far as BU moving to D2, it seems that the possibility of it not happening is based on time.
We've been hearing about a reputed move for a couple years, and now it looks like it won't be accomplished for at least a couple more years.

I didn't hear anything about Benedictine moving to D2 until two or three months ago.
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Re: MBB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
« Reply #2972 on: May 04, 2017, 08:58:29 am »
Kinda of a no-brainer move here for ITT joining the league. Still think the bigger debate is going to be will the league move back to two divisions in certain sports.

The BU to D2 talk is interesting but I can't see it happening at the present time. Would put football at disadvantage especially with the scheduling agreement the league has with the MIAA.
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Re: MBB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
« Reply #2973 on: May 04, 2017, 09:51:50 am »
Kinda of a no-brainer move here for ITT joining the league. Still think the bigger debate is going to be will the league move back to two divisions in certain sports.

The BU to D2 talk is interesting but I can't see it happening at the present time. Would put football at disadvantage especially with the scheduling agreement the league has with the MIAA.

Their president is making it a priority to make the D2 move. It's gonna happen. If it falls apart, it won't be from a lack of trying.

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Re: MBB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
« Reply #2974 on: May 04, 2017, 10:12:47 am »
Kinda of a no-brainer move here for ITT joining the league. Still think the bigger debate is going to be will the league move back to two divisions in certain sports.

The BU to D2 talk is interesting but I can't see it happening at the present time. Would put football at disadvantage especially with the scheduling agreement the league has with the MIAA.

Their president is making it a priority to make the D2 move. It's gonna happen. If it falls apart, it won't be from a lack of trying.

Kinda wondering what the motivation to move to D2 from the president is all about.
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Re: MBB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
« Reply #2975 on: May 04, 2017, 01:26:23 pm »
It's all speculation, but I suspect that it's a combination of: 1) the president of BU believing that D2 membership could raise the school's local profile (which I doubt would actually happen, but it's a plausible theory); 2) Benedictine having the quality facilities necessary to both entice the GLVC to offer it membership and to attract D2-caliber student-athletes; 3) the fact that, since Chicagoland is underserved in terms of D2 institutions (the only one is Lewis, way out in Romeoville), BU will enjoy a great recruiting niche at that level; and 4) the CCIW's intransigence -- that league is never going to admit BU as a member in a million years, no matter how hard the Bennies keep knocking on the door.
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Re: MBB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
« Reply #2976 on: May 04, 2017, 02:58:51 pm »
http://benueagles.com/news/2017/4/4/general-benedictine-to-explore-ncaa-dii-transition.aspx

They believe, based on consultants and research, that they will actually save money because a large number of student-athletes are more likely to take (for example) a $4,000 athletic scholarship than a $8,000 academic scholarship. Based on what I've seen over the years, I tend to believe them.
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Re: MBB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
« Reply #2977 on: May 04, 2017, 03:44:03 pm »
I wasn't aware of that research, but that would be a powerful fifth incentive to move to D2, along with the other four I've named.

(I was amused by that BU press release back when I initially read it, because it said that Benedictine has been a member of D3 since a decade before D3 was actually created. Quite far-seeing, those Bennies. ;))
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Re: MBB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
« Reply #2978 on: May 04, 2017, 04:08:21 pm »
http://benueagles.com/news/2017/4/4/general-benedictine-to-explore-ncaa-dii-transition.aspx

They believe, based on consultants and research, that they will actually save money because a large number of student-athletes are more likely to take (for example) a $4,000 athletic scholarship than a $8,000 academic scholarship. Based on what I've seen over the years, I tend to believe them.

Some of the associated math/reasoning I've heard is pretty suspect. If they're going to rely on athletes to take up a higher percentage of their student body, they'll likely have to build more facilities to accommodate them, and any cost savings gets swallowed up and then some when capital projects are involved. Nothing puts institutions in financial straits faster than buildings that they have trouble paying off...

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Re: MBB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
« Reply #2979 on: May 05, 2017, 02:59:00 pm »
I think they can fill a recruiting niche in Chicago. They can provide an attractive landing spot that falls between mid-level D-I's Loyola/DePaul/UIC and the Chicagoland D-III schools.
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Re: MBB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
« Reply #2980 on: May 31, 2017, 03:45:03 pm »
Edgewood announces 11 recruits...

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Ryan Buss, Green Bay Preble, 6-foot- 6 forward
Drew Freitag, Beloit Memorial, 5-11 guard
Jake Graf, Brookfield East, 6-0 guard
Caleb Hill, Iowa-Grant, 6-1 guard
Caleb Holzman, Howards Grove, 6-5 forward
Nick Lynch, Janesville Craig, 6-3 guard
Jake Negus, Janesville Craig, 6-1 guard
Will Schwartz, Darlington, 6-2 guard
Ben Seefeld, Hartland Arrowhead, 6-5 forward
Noah Wand, Shullsburg, 6-4 forward
Jack Warrick, Mineral Point, 6-6 forward
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Re: MBB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
« Reply #2981 on: June 03, 2017, 02:15:06 pm »
Big loss for the Muskies as it's been reported on the CCIW board that leading scorer Brandon James is transferring to North Central.
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