BB: Pool B

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Just Bill

NATHCON Tournament page for all those following their teams Pool B fortunes.  Live Audio and Live Stats for every game:

http://www.edgewoodcollegeeagles.com/nacbaseball/2008/
"That seems silly and pointless..." - Hoops Fan

The first and still most accurate description of the D3 Championship BeltTM thread.

WLCALUM83

Concordia-Chicago knocked off Carthage last night, 6-5.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: WLCALUM83 on May 07, 2008, 06:18:43 AM
Concordia-Chicago knocked off Carthage last night, 6-5.
That should be a good win over a regionally ranked team.

Ralph Turner

Game 1  No. 4 Concordia Chicago 9, No. 1 Benedictine 1    
Game 2    No. 2 Rockford 6, No. 3 Marian 2    
Game 3    No. 2 Rockford 10, No. 4 Concordia Chicago 8

NATHC Tourney

Ugly loss for a Concordia IL which was on the bubble for a Pool B/C.

Concordia IL needed to boost their in-region record by sweeping the NATHC tourney, i.e., going 3-0 versus in-region opponents which have better than average records.

OshDude

St. Scholastica probably wrapped up a Pool B bid with an undefeated run through the UMAC tourney. CSS eked out the championship game, 20-7. The Saints are now 24-3 in-region.

WLCALUM83

NATHCon Tournament Update:

Concordia-Chicago 8, Benedictine, IL 0  (Ben eliminated).

Concordia-Chicago 11, Rockford 1

(Cougars and Regents play one more game--winner take all).

WLCALUM83

NAthCon Tournament "Winner Take All" Final:

Rockford 8, Concordia-Chicago 3.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: WLCALUM83 on May 10, 2008, 08:15:11 PM
NAthCon Tournament "Winner Take All" Final:

Rockford 8, Concordia-Chicago 3.
I think that Rockford took Concordia-Chicago out of Pool C, too.

Pool A next year for the NATHC.  Two losses by a team that has a lower regional ranking don't help the #6 team in the Central Region.

Jim Dixon

Playoffs release available on D3baseball.com in the Daily Dose

Ralph Turner

First day for Pool B ends up, 3 wins and 3 losses.

Salisbury defeats Randolph-Macon, 7-4
Chapman beats LaVerne, 4-3
Cal State U East Bay beats McMurry, 14-7
Piedmont loses to Lynchburg, 9-1
Ithaca loses to OWU, 5-3
St Scholastica loses to UW-Whitewater, 7-4

Ralph Turner

#55
This topic is to discuss the Pool B teams for the playoffs.

Here is the link for the FAQ on national playoff criteria for 52 Pool B teams.

For the 2009 season, the 52 Pool B teams are listed by region:

Central Region:  (3)
Univ. of Chicago
Nebraska Wesleyan
Washington U St Louis (UAA)

Mid-Atlantic:  (5)
Drew (LAND)
Juniata (LAND)
Moravian (LAND)
Scranton (LAND)
Susquehanna (LAND)

Mideast:  (2)
Case Western Reserve (UAA)
Finlandia

Midwest:  (7 -- all UMAC)
Bethany Lutheran
College of St Scholastica
Crown
Martin Luther
MN-Morris
Northland
Northwestern

New England:  (6)
Becker (NECC)
Brandeis (UAA)
Elms (NECC)
U Maine-Presque Isle
Newbury (NECC)
Southern Vermont (NECC)

New York:  (11)

Baruch (CUNYAC)
City College of New York  (CUNYAC)
Ithaca (E8)
John Jay (CUNYAC)
Lehman  (CUNYAC)
Rochester Institute of Technology (E8)
St John Fisher (E8)
College of Staten Island (CUNYAC)
Stevens Tech (E8)
US Merchant Marine Acadmey (LAND)
Utica (E8)

South:  (14)

Catholic (LAND)
Emory (UAA)
Gallaudet (CAC)
Huntingdon (GSAC)
LaGrange (GSAC)
Mary Washington (CAC)
Maryville (GSAC)
Piedmont (GSAC)
Rust
St Mary's MD (CAC)
Salisbury (CAC)
Stevenson (CAC)
Wesley (CAC)
York PA (CAC)

West:  (3 4 )

Chapman
CSU-East Bay
Univ of Dallas
Menlo


EDIT:  Menlo added to the list when confirmed by Menlo Coach Matt Daily.

Ralph Turner

#56
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 12, 2008, 09:28:57 PM
This topic is to discuss the Pool B teams for the playoffs.

Here is the link for the FAQ on national playoff criteria for 52 Pool B teams.

For the 2009 season, the 52 Pool B teams are listed by region:

Central Region:  (3)
Univ. of Chicago
Nebraska Wesleyan
Washington U St Louis (UAA)

Mid-Atlantic:  (5)
Drew (LAND)
Juniata (LAND)
Moravian (LAND)
Scranton (LAND)
Susquehanna (LAND)

Mideast:  (2)
Case Western Reserve (UAA)
Finlandia

Midwest:  (6 -- all UMAC; MN-Morris is listed in the New England)
Bethany Lutheran
College of St Scholastica
Crown
Martin Luther
Northland
Northwestern

New England:  (7   [sic])
Becker (NECC)
Brandeis (UAA)
Elms (NECC)
U Maine-Presque Isle
MN-Morris (UMAC)  [sic]
Newbury (NECC)
Southern Vermont (NECC)

New York:  (11)

Baruch (CUNYAC)
City College of New York  (CUNYAC)
Ithaca (E8)
John Jay (CUNYAC)
Lehman  (CUNYAC)
Rochester Institute of Technology (E8)
St John Fisher (E8)
College of Staten Island (CUNYAC)
Stevens Tech (E8)
US Merchant Marine Acadmey (LAND)
Utica (E8)

South:  (14)

Catholic (LAND)
Emory (UAA)
Gallaudet (CAC)
Huntingdon (GSAC)
LaGrange (GSAC)
Mary Washington (CAC)
Maryville (GSAC)
Piedmont (GSAC)
Rust
St Mary's MD (CAC)
Salisbury (CAC)
Stevenson (CAC)
Wesley (CAC)
York PA (CAC)

West:  (3 4 )

Chapman
CSU-East Bay
Univ of Dallas
Menlo


EDIT:  Menlo added to the list when confirmed by Menlo Coach Matt Daily.
I have double-checked the lists of participating teams and conferences.  I count 35 Pool A conferences which have 305 teams.  That gives the access ratio to determine the Pool B bids at 1:8.714.

I count 52 participating teams and an access ratio of 1:8.714.

That should give 5.967 bids, which truncates to 5 Pool B bids.  (I believe that the January 20, 2009 revision of the Handbook is incorrect in its allocation of Pool B and Pool C bids.)

The NAC and NEAC have announced an affiliation/association arrangement to preserve access to Pool A in 2010.

These conferences should coming into Pool A status in the next couple of years:  Capital AC (7 teams); Landmark (7 teams); UMAC (7 teams).  I count 37 conferences by 2011.


Addendum:  Feb 17, 2009 (2nd update) has rounded the number of Pool B bids up to 6.

DIIIBASEBALLFAN

Why dont they just combine the POOL B & C pools into 1 pool ?

NCAA and simplicity do not go together.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: DIIIBASEBALLFAN on February 07, 2009, 01:16:40 PM
Why dont they just combine the POOL B & C pools into 1 pool ?

NCAA and simplicity do not go together.
Because Pool B functions as the allocation of bids for schools that do not have access to the AQ via the Pool A conferences.  :)


Ralph Turner

The first ranking conference call occurs on Thursday April 23rd.  That will give us a good idea of which teams are in contention for Pool B bids.

CSS (St Scholastica)  -- shoo-in?

Will Chapman be regionally ranked in the West?

Will Emory be regionally ranked in the South?

Does the Capital AC get one or 2 teams in Pool B?

Ithaca?