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« Reply #51885 on: September 13, 2017, 11:35:45 am »
AFTER ALL....Davis is the third team QB...wow, are the Raiders lucky.  I am surprised one of the three did not leave.

That is quite surprising. Unless one of them is there for a specific major at UMU.

Or, they are willing to sacrifice playing time for a chance at a national championship?


I would not be surprised if there was a position change for one the  QB's sometime this season. Agree, none of them will consider making a move off the Raiders who have IMHO a good chance to win it all this year! :)
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« Reply #51886 on: September 13, 2017, 01:26:41 pm »
I would be surprised if any of those three moved to another position this year.  At this point it obviously wouldn't be Fulford since he's starting.  The other two I'm not sure where they'd move?  This isn't a scenario like a Shorts or Scott where you have a phenomenal athlete stuck as your backup QB and you need to find a way to get your 11 best players on the field.  Poorman and Davis are athletic enough to run some read option as the QB, but they're not going to be playing any WR or anything.

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« Reply #51887 on: September 13, 2017, 04:18:20 pm »
I would be surprised if any of those three moved to another position this year.  At this point it obviously wouldn't be Fulford since he's starting.  The other two I'm not sure where they'd move?  This isn't a scenario like a Shorts or Scott where you have a phenomenal athlete stuck as your backup QB and you need to find a way to get your 11 best players on the field.  Poorman and Davis are athletic enough to run some read option as the QB, but they're not going to be playing any WR or anything.

I could see Davis playing one of the safety positions in the future.

But I agree on not moving this year. Especially when Fulfird and Poorman went down last year and Davis led the team.
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« Reply #51888 on: September 13, 2017, 05:38:48 pm »
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« Reply #51889 on: September 13, 2017, 07:21:15 pm »
AFTER ALL....Davis is the third team QB...wow, are the Raiders lucky.  I am surprised one of the three did not leave.

That is quite surprising. Unless one of them is there for a specific major at UMU.

I don't find it that surprising. I mean from a cost stand point the $$ for Mount is similar to other D3's (no I do not have a spreadsheet to illustrate). The overwhelming majority of these guys know they are not going to NFL so there is little risk of moving for greater exposure and they know they will need something more than the ability to read a defense and throw for 5 TDs - ya know a degree. They chose Mount for a reason, and yes I am sure the football team and history was a part of that. I could see maybe transferring closer to home (FL nay not have D3 but they have other programs closer) for whatever reason but aside from that... I know 'but they would prefer to play (yada yada)'. Sorry but I would prefer to see limited duty at Mount and go deep in playoffs etc...to going 1-9 or 2-8 as a starter at Earlham, Hiram, Etta, or Wilmington (and back to the academic side...Mount is equal to these or better in every regard).

As far as moving positions. I agree with previous posters. Fulford was my pick to move to slot because he is so athletic. Poorman is a QB. Period. Davis - I don't see him moving on the offensive side because of the talent level. He is a good athlete but he isn't Scott or Shorts. Could/would he go the defense - no clue. I have not seen enough to know if it would make sense. I would rather have him healthy at QB - just in case.
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« Reply #51890 on: September 13, 2017, 08:22:57 pm »
Have to agree that Poorman is a QB only.  Fulford could go at any skill position and Davis possibly the same.  That said, some kids are just not cut out to play defense.  You have to WANT to play defense and a kid who is a QB his whole life isn't necessarily fond of charging into contact.

Mount has announced the addition of Men's Volleyball.  This is really a great move, I feel and will only make the athletic program stronger.  PA HIGH SCHOOLS have been playing boy's VB for years and Ohio has nearly 100 schools now participating.  Another great move to get kids on campus.

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« Reply #51891 on: September 13, 2017, 09:05:53 pm »
I don't find it that surprising. I mean from a cost stand point the $$ for Mount is similar to other D3's (no I do not have a spreadsheet to illustrate). The overwhelming majority of these guys know they are not going to NFL so there is little risk of moving for greater exposure and they know they will need something more than the ability to read a defense and throw for 5 TDs - ya know a degree. They chose Mount for a reason, and yes I am sure the football team and history was a part of that.

I would think that for the majority of them the football team is by far the biggest factor in the decision to choose Mount. 

I could see maybe transferring closer to home (FL nay not have D3 but they have other programs closer) for whatever reason but aside from that... I know 'but they would prefer to play (yada yada)'. Sorry but I would prefer to see limited duty at Mount and go deep in playoffs etc...to going 1-9 or 2-8 as a starter at Earlham, Hiram, Etta, or Wilmington (and back to the academic side...Mount is equal to these or better in every regard).

I'm not sure this is an accurate portrayal.  These are 3 kids good enough to start for Mount.  They're not going to Wilm.  What if one transferred to Wabash?  Or W&J?  Or Franklin?  They'd be in a pretty darn good position to win a lot of games and play in the playoffs.  I think they didn't transfer because they're all highly competitive and think they can help the team win a ring.  I also think they'd all be correct in that thinking.   

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« Reply #51892 on: September 14, 2017, 07:54:14 am »
I don't find it that surprising. I mean from a cost stand point the $$ for Mount is similar to other D3's (no I do not have a spreadsheet to illustrate). The overwhelming majority of these guys know they are not going to NFL so there is little risk of moving for greater exposure and they know they will need something more than the ability to read a defense and throw for 5 TDs - ya know a degree. They chose Mount for a reason, and yes I am sure the football team and history was a part of that.

I would think that for the majority of them the football team is by far the biggest factor in the decision to choose Mount. 

I could see maybe transferring closer to home (FL nay not have D3 but they have other programs closer) for whatever reason but aside from that... I know 'but they would prefer to play (yada yada)'. Sorry but I would prefer to see limited duty at Mount and go deep in playoffs etc...to going 1-9 or 2-8 as a starter at Earlham, Hiram, Etta, or Wilmington (and back to the academic side...Mount is equal to these or better in every regard).

I'm not sure this is an accurate portrayal.  These are 3 kids good enough to start for Mount.  They're not going to Wilm.  What if one transferred to Wabash?  Or W&J?  Or Franklin?  They'd be in a pretty darn good position to win a lot of games and play in the playoffs.  I think they didn't transfer because they're all highly competitive and think they can help the team win a ring.  I also think they'd all be correct in that thinking.   

Man, everyone is really high on W&J this year  ;).  I guess we'll see..
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« Reply #51893 on: September 14, 2017, 08:06:35 am »
AFTER ALL....Davis is the third team QB...wow, are the Raiders lucky.  I am surprised one of the three did not leave.

That is quite surprising. Unless one of them is there for a specific major at UMU.

I don't find it that surprising. I mean from a cost stand point the $$ for Mount is similar to other D3's (no I do not have a spreadsheet to illustrate). The overwhelming majority of these guys know they are not going to NFL so there is little risk of moving for greater exposure and they know they will need something more than the ability to read a defense and throw for 5 TDs - ya know a degree. They chose Mount for a reason, and yes I am sure the football team and history was a part of that. I could see maybe transferring closer to home (FL nay not have D3 but they have other programs closer) for whatever reason but aside from that... I know 'but they would prefer to play (yada yada)'. Sorry but I would prefer to see limited duty at Mount and go deep in playoffs etc...to going 1-9 or 2-8 as a starter at Earlham, Hiram, Etta, or Wilmington (and back to the academic side...Mount is equal to these or better in every regard).

As far as moving positions. I agree with previous posters. Fulford was my pick to move to slot because he is so athletic. Poorman is a QB. Period. Davis - I don't see him moving on the offensive side because of the talent level. He is a good athlete but he isn't Scott or Shorts. Could/would he go the defense - no clue. I have not seen enough to know if it would make sense. I would rather have him healthy at QB - just in case.

I dunno.  I think playing time is VERY important to most kids.  Kids choose Mount Union thinking they will eventually see action because they have that self belief.  The kids then get indoctrinated into all things Mount and become team players, which is drilled into them.  If a kid could look into the future and see that he's never going to get on the field,  I bet less of them would choose to attend Mount Union.  You can get a good liberal arts degree in alot of places. 

In this case, you have three guys who have been starting QB... they know they are one or two plays away from playing.  If Fulford starts the entire 2017 season, I bet you'll see one of them transfer. 

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« Reply #51894 on: September 14, 2017, 10:12:18 am »
Hey Everyone.. So I am going to the Army Ohio St. game on Saturday (Go Army!), and this will be my first time at the Horseshoe. Does anyone have any advice on places to check out?

Before you criticize me for cheering against OSU, I am a legit Army fan, and Ohio Stadium is on my Bucket List of College football venues to check out..

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Thanks! I'll definitely see how time plays out! Luckily, I'll be able to listen to the JCU game before kickoff!
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« Reply #51895 on: September 14, 2017, 10:39:04 am »
Is the Mount - Marietta preview still not posted or did I miss it? :-\
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« Reply #51896 on: September 14, 2017, 11:33:57 am »
Is the Mount - Marietta preview still not posted or did I miss it? :-\

Here it is:

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« Reply #51897 on: September 14, 2017, 12:49:03 pm »
I dont see anyone transfering to see more field time for business reasons. They all have 2 years of expensive academic credits accumulated and Mounts not inexpensive. If they transfer to another D3 program there will be no scholarship money to ease the transition. Worst of all, and I think this is obscene, they will get hosed at the Registrars office by that old "We cannot transfer those credits to our program. You will have to take a few of OUR courses to catch up in our program". Daddy will not be amused.

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« Reply #51898 on: September 14, 2017, 03:16:41 pm »
AFTER ALL....Davis is the third team QB...wow, are the Raiders lucky.  I am surprised one of the three did not leave.

That is quite surprising. Unless one of them is there for a specific major at UMU.

I don't find it that surprising. I mean from a cost stand point the $$ for Mount is similar to other D3's (no I do not have a spreadsheet to illustrate). The overwhelming majority of these guys know they are not going to NFL so there is little risk of moving for greater exposure and they know they will need something more than the ability to read a defense and throw for 5 TDs - ya know a degree. They chose Mount for a reason, and yes I am sure the football team and history was a part of that. I could see maybe transferring closer to home (FL nay not have D3 but they have other programs closer) for whatever reason but aside from that... I know 'but they would prefer to play (yada yada)'. Sorry but I would prefer to see limited duty at Mount and go deep in playoffs etc...to going 1-9 or 2-8 as a starter at Earlham, Hiram, Etta, or Wilmington (and back to the academic side...Mount is equal to these or better in every regard).

As far as moving positions. I agree with previous posters. Fulford was my pick to move to slot because he is so athletic. Poorman is a QB. Period. Davis - I don't see him moving on the offensive side because of the talent level. He is a good athlete but he isn't Scott or Shorts. Could/would he go the defense - no clue. I have not seen enough to know if it would make sense. I would rather have him healthy at QB - just in case.

I dunno.  I think playing time is VERY important to most kids.  Kids choose Mount Union thinking they will eventually see action because they have that self belief.  The kids then get indoctrinated into all things Mount and become team players, which is drilled into them.  If a kid could look into the future and see that he's never going to get on the field,  I bet less of them would choose to attend Mount Union.  You can get a good liberal arts degree in alot of places. 

In this case, you have three guys who have been starting QB... they know they are one or two plays away from playing.  If Fulford starts the entire 2017 season, I bet you'll see one of them transfer. 

Just my .02 as a former player.

I tend to agree with this post, yet it sure puts players in a somewhat helpless place. I think of Garropolo in New England. What does he do? I'm amazed and impressed to see outstanding players stay put (throughout their eligibility or peak playing years) as back ups, at any level.

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« Reply #51899 on: September 14, 2017, 03:23:20 pm »
I don't find it that surprising. I mean from a cost stand point the $$ for Mount is similar to other D3's (no I do not have a spreadsheet to illustrate). The overwhelming majority of these guys know they are not going to NFL so there is little risk of moving for greater exposure and they know they will need something more than the ability to read a defense and throw for 5 TDs - ya know a degree. They chose Mount for a reason, and yes I am sure the football team and history was a part of that.

I would think that for the majority of them the football team is by far the biggest factor in the decision to choose Mount. 

I could see maybe transferring closer to home (FL nay not have D3 but they have other programs closer) for whatever reason but aside from that... I know 'but they would prefer to play (yada yada)'. Sorry but I would prefer to see limited duty at Mount and go deep in playoffs etc...to going 1-9 or 2-8 as a starter at Earlham, Hiram, Etta, or Wilmington (and back to the academic side...Mount is equal to these or better in every regard).

I'm not sure this is an accurate portrayal.  These are 3 kids good enough to start for Mount.  They're not going to Wilm.  What if one transferred to Wabash?  Or W&J?  Or Franklin?  They'd be in a pretty darn good position to win a lot of games and play in the playoffs.  I think they didn't transfer because they're all highly competitive and think they can help the team win a ring.  I also think they'd all be correct in that thinking.   

Man, everyone is really high on W&J this year  ;).  I guess we'll see..

It's our mandated Mount allegiance to Sirianni!   ;D  FWIW since it's a hypothetical transfer scenario I was thinking about 2018 and 2019 W&J in a TMC-less PAC when I mentioned W&J.